TNA Slammiversary Thoughts | Roman Reigns-Paul Heyman Beef | The Undertaker and Trick Williams | The WRAP

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hello everyone and welcome to a brand new episode of the wrap right here on the fight game media network happy Wednesday morning to you all is back here to recap the week so far in WWE as we count down the days until some of slam going down over two nights from midlife stadium and eastward the for news Jersey.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm Kila Cash and by my side as always is my co-capped in my right hand.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sometimes advocate for the rapidly improving Miss Jada Parker from NXT.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I bring to you back on the Rappas always the one, the only salty, Scott Young welcome back salty.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you for having me, Keela.

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[SPEAKER_02]: As always, it's a pleasure to chop it up and talk all things WWE.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm excited about the conversation we're going to have.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And yeah, should be another another good show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, indeed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: As you distract me right now, we're like this kind of like this bowling ball shirt vibe going on with the shades, giving very big La Bowsky right now, not gonna lie.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm a, I'm if the big La Bowsky decided to start eating a weekly basis, so be right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It is you and your final form, you say.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, exactly.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This is my final evolution, you know, like Charmander goes to Charmillion and then he goes to Charizard.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm Charizard right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I love it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: When our clip drops for the show, people are going to see this and we'll meet and we'll meet in unison.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I do believe that as well, you know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So wrapping the colors, wrapping the shades.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's get into the show as we not.

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[SPEAKER_00]: start the conversation, talking about WWE.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now it is WWE related.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It is WWE adjacent because my co-captain, my co-host, decided to dive into the land of TNA this past Sunday to watch Slam of Versary.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I saw the live tweets.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I saw his reactions.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I read his thoughts and I thought it would be fun for him to offer his take

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[SPEAKER_00]: on watching TNA slam adversary because for the first time, and a very long time, my timeline, the number one topic on the socials at night was TNA.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And if they could stick the landing, if they could execute the perfect ending for Mike Santana in this question when the TNA world championship could they close the deal?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Could they slam dunk the shot?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Could they hit the lab?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Could they hit the three from downtown?

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[SPEAKER_00]: The answer is nope, but Scott's hearing anyway to provide his thoughts on the show.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, outside of the Jeff Jarrett-esque booking of the main event, I actually thought the show was really good and came off and felt big time, bigger than TNA normally feels.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I thought, I thought up until the Masha match.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The Masha JC match for the Unification Tag match.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I thought up until that day I'd done a really good job of building it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Schmatches were solid.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They started it off a Mustafa on Cedric.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They had a really good opener.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Mustafa tried to kill himself to get a quick little high-light real, but luckily he was okay, but the match was fantastic.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Outside I'd die of which was real scary to see.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The Lumbar check, beautiful at the end, and then right into the four-fifty.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's a great finish right there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: flashing lights, gang, nobody cares.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But shout out to TNA for getting the win.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Big win for Eddie Edwards.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, in the Masha match, let's go ahead and get to that Masha JC Jane.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Matt was good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Masha is like, she's got a quickness tour.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There's an aggressiveness tour that really connects with the audience and you can see that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But when she took that L,

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[SPEAKER_02]: real clean.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, she took that L. You could feel the sales.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You could feel the air kind of come out of the building.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You could feel you could feel like a bit of a let down.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But then there was a little bit of a, all right, well, that means we getting some nice coming at the end.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Moose is slater and incredible match.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Really, really told a great story.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Slater has, in my opinion, the best finisher going right now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's once on four, fifty is a thing of beauty and

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[SPEAKER_02]: when the finish of it, him hitting moves with the spear going into the swan time, who's his hero, then going into the swan time for fifty.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I thought the finish couldn't have been better.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Moose crowning the new champion, the youngest champion of all time in the exhibition, like great moment right there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm thinking, all right, we're back.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We're moving back.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Head back on the right path.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh.

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[SPEAKER_02]: forgot about a test of blanched, she was on the show versus in the heart well.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And let me say this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Test is not everybody's cup of tea.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Not really my cup of tea as a person.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But let me tell you this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, girl, I can go in and ring because might have been the best in the heart.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, Matt, you've ever seen in my life.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And that's ninety eight percent due to her.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She was great in the match.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I thought she was absolutely fantastic.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The post match attack was great.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She's just a terrible person.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then, you know, it is what it is.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And the tag title match, top dollar tried his best to make everyone forget about flop dollar and his said try to become no nuts dollar.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Wow.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So there's that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But he was really good in the match all jokes aside.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought he did a really good job in the match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He was a good base.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He was a good heavy in the match.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Hardies get the win and then we get to the main event.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Trick gets the choir up big and this is a swan song he's getting the choir.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Joe Hendry, Santana, hometown boy, matches fine, everything's fine.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Trick fakes an injury and you know,

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[SPEAKER_02]: Instead of, instead of trickfaking the injury going for the pen in Santana, or Joe Hendry kicking out or getting a great near-fall, they just have trick when the match.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There wasn't this epic one-on-one battle between Joe Hendry and Santana where the crowd was on the edge of their sea just had no idea who the root for and then trick just comes in and screws his way to victory.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's not what they did.

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[SPEAKER_02]: What they did was they had Joe Hendry and Santana just go out there and trade a couple moves didn't feel that same intensity and then here comes trick.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Man, I got to tell you.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was one of the most deflating finishes I've seen in a while.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And like it's one thing to have a great match in a deflating finish, but they're having okay match in a deflating finish, you know,

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[SPEAKER_02]: Everybody's favorite podcast or bully Ray always says that the last thing that was pure sarcasm by the way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Listen, based on the no-poppy got tonight during NXT, I was like, well, at least it's getting love somewhere tonight, but then I realized you were being facetious.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, there you go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, that one person's sarcasm.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He did say this, so that main event is it's going to leave a lasting impression.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And the show was not bad.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Regardless of what you're saying, the show was not bad.

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[SPEAKER_01]: outside of A&E deciding to have the production crew tell them exactly what's going on while the camera was rolling.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Ash NL against not asked by Ash NL against A&E back there so.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But the show was fine, just that main event.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was just so deflated.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like sometimes you just got to go with the hot hand.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You got to go with the moment.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You got to go with the feeling.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And you got to reward the hometown boy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They still on this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like that was like that was a pure Vince moves if we're just keeping it a buck as far as what that was something that Vince McMahon.

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[SPEAKER_02]: would have done one hundred percent ninety eight out of a hundred times to the baby face and make him wait until true until but in the biggest show like that's that was that booking one-on-one triple ages right there

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[SPEAKER_02]: He didn't book it though because he don't see color.

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[SPEAKER_02]: HBK book that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's go ahead and throw that out there too.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But show with solid.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I did think it felt big time.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, they won't be able to capture this type of momentum and moment for Santana unless AJ Styles beats trick Williams for the TNA title and then Santana BTAJ Styles at Bound for Glory.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's the only way I'm thinking you can make right on this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But if not,

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[SPEAKER_02]: Looks like Trick Willy's heading into Bound for Glory.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and they're extending this by at least another what two at three months.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then Santana's contract ends early next year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we know the WWE has interests.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So what are we going to do with a two-month totter rain if you do crown him at Bound for Glory?

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, when I think about TNA, I think back to maybe a year or two or go before there were some leadership changes at the top and they started to fire some people.

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[SPEAKER_00]: TNA was a pretty good show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, it was trying to gain traction in terms of viewership on their own network, access TV, trying to bring in more audience members via YouTube and their own streaming service.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But this was the most buzz TNA has had in a very long time for a show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The building they had, seven thousand people in it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: AJ Styles for the first time in years showed up on a TNA paper view.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he put over the future in Leon Slater.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was a great moment.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Then I think about the main event.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you have those Puerto Rico flags out there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The week was out there showing love to Santana.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It felt like this was the night to crown him and then they decided not to kind of reminds me of when James storm was hot in ten a years ago and they waited a little bit too long to crown him as champion and that moment wasn't as big as it could have been.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The first time they did it, the first time they teased it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And now it's Santa Ana.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It feels like, well, if we do go down this road of waiting three more months, waiting into October, waiting potentially for an AJ Styles versus Santa Ana match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Did you miss the moment in this moment to crown him in front of his hometown crowd that would have loved and appreciate it?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Can you go to another building in October and get five thousand six thousand fans to pay money to see this?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I honestly don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I felt like it was a missed opportunity because for one night, for the first time in a very, very long time, all eyes were on TNA.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And since leadership changes have happened, the promotion has kind of dipped a bit in terms of quality.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The WWE relationship has benefited them in a very good way, but in terms of their own product, slacking a bit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I felt like this was a moment on Sunday to crown someone that has been getting over organically a via their charisma and their talent.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And now you're opting to delay it to what end because I don't think you're going to duplicate a crowd like this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And a city like that in a moment that would have mattered much more than versus what they're going to do in the future.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but on the bright side, it's only one night, and they've got a lot of time to do a make right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They may not get this same moment.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Cody Rose didn't get the same moment at WrestleMania, Forty, that he got at thirty nine, but regardless, because I think we all thought that that was the perfect moment with Kevin Nolan and Sammy Zayne playing a part in the finish and all that, that that would have been a perfect moment, but Forty still ended up being a really big moment.

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[SPEAKER_02]: long as they can still deliver on the payoff on the big moment on Santana becoming the face of TNA wrestling long as that is the goal that is what is going to be the future of TNA

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[SPEAKER_02]: we're okay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, everything is okay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like this, it's not like TNA is, is trying to, is competing with A, they've been trying to take a TNA or TBS spot.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So they'll be okay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, if we're lucky, we can get them on to B. Maybe Roku.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, shout out to a sci-fi, you know, that'll be, that'll be big time.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, they'll be fine.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The longest they can,

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[SPEAKER_02]: long as they can stick the landing and get Santana where he needs to be on top of TNA by bound for glory with no shenanigans.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Nothing crazy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No Jeff Jarrett ideas.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Everything will be fine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, let's pray.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There are no Jeff Hardy at will Jeff Jarrett ideas and grass Jeff Hardy and hard of course as well for getting their TNA world tech and titles back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: hearty boys still ballin' out in two thousand twenty five.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Love to see it, love to see it healthy, Jeff Hardy even more.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But we don't need to see Jeff Jared Chenanigans in the main event scene when it comes to the booking of the TNA World Heavyweight Championship unnecessary there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I do love how Scott continues to shape me and to be as an option for TNA wrestling because that's where the wrestlers wrestle now apparently when they got to evolve bag every Wednesday night at eight o'clock going head to head with a W but a sci-fi bag.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It wouldn't shock me if, you know, USA wants to pass away a program.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You want to replay it late at night or write it and do that as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But that would be a Comcast situation.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you want to get into wrestling with TNA and we know there has been rumors about WWE trying to possibly

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[SPEAKER_00]: by the promotions that they can get a TV deal, try to leverage that for themselves as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We will see how it all goes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I do want to call out someone that went on someone's show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if they were smoking something, drinking something.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was for themselves a little bit too much being in low to blue, blue land.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But let's talk about Eric, but you know, no, no, no, no, no, no, at least he stays in the realm of reality.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the realm of realism.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm talking about Eric Bischoff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Smell when a hero wanted to show and say it with a straight face.

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[SPEAKER_00]: that TNA wrestling will be the number two promotion in a year to for sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I thought to myself, what billion dollar deal it is curing in the next two to three years?

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're going for ten mill a year in the next what hopefully may be three to five years.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that probably the most of them, they'll see in a very long time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a blessing for them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But you are living in delusional island, if you think they're going to be the number two promotion in this country.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That ain't go happen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You just be in a hater to be a hater on a supreme level.

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[SPEAKER_00]: While your promotion is on Fox Nation, but I digress in all of that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There is a silent investor.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, Oprah is in the running.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's looking to get into the wrestling business.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She has her own network.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And she's got good reach.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, I think once Oprah buys the company will be, will be right there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Listen, we've talked about the online up recently on the show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's not what they're there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what they need.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They be live sports.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're not home meeting live sports for branding that he to expand their portfolio and branch out because right now, on is basically a show corporation, just air and repeat of stuff from discovery channel, basically an HGTV.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you're right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You need to get Westside guns promotion on there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Fourth rope, House of Glory, Reality of Wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Go get all those on there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, you know Oprah is not going to be putting no Westside gun on her network.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She'll, no, she will not be doing that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She might because she might not know who he is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just keeping it a buck.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like she'd be like, okay, cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is that a wrestler?

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's bringing in the culture for the culture, for the culture.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's air that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's put that on in midnight on own on Tuesday.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Nice.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's how you sell that dark on after dark.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what you do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's how you sell it for the culture by the culture.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, that's how you sell it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It should be okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I love it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I love it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can't wait.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That would require discovery to spend money because they're cheap.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's not going to happen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So on is going to continue to air reruns produced by discovery and HGTV and the food network because they're broke apparently because they cannot afford any original programming except dating shows and reality shows on Saturday night.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that's the line up for own.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, they're gone from some of my prestige programming to now, just being a network.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Shout out the Oprah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Shout out to Oprah though.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, good for you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You lost your network and for the first fifteen years of its life, you were able to produce some solid shows.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But now it's like, that's not okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Shout out to Oprah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's take it easy, Kyla.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's start listening.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's take it easy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I am not.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like a little bit more.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's solid shows.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Or just, or just shows that happen to get multiple episodes out of them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, solid shows.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Solid shows.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Solid shows.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Chat to queen sugar, green leaf, you know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no, no, no, no.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Shout out to them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Shout out to them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, Scott trying to discredit the own lineup when it was relevant.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They know it was a time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: was a time sir, it existed, it poured numbers, put better numbers in XT on a Tuesday night numbers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just saying so, it's a dead.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, that's another night solid.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, no, you know, Scott's gonna be like a lifetime perennial hater, but I digress in all of that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She'll love to own.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, they need something right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The struggling to find an audience because there is no audience, but that was the TNA slam a verse review courtesy of salty Scott Young and I want to know the buy right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to know the buy right for this show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to know the numbers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: how many buys it got to people tune in.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Will they come back for bound for glory?

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[SPEAKER_00]: We shall see if that same buzz that was their Sunday exists in October for bound for glory.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We shall see.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But let's get into some WWE talk and discussion as we are very close to some of slamming just a week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We got two days of summer slam, met life stadium, Cardi B's the host.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She's been beefing with everybody on the socials as of late promoting her gig as the host of this event.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And let's dive into Friday night smack down on USA from a few days ago.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And one of the more notable developments was the fact that we do have new number one contenders for the WWE tag team titles.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's going to be on dry day and Ray Phoenix versus the white six, not a summer slam.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Not even the night before summer slam, but next week, which means this week on SmackDown on USA.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So let me get this straight.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we expand the night for summer slam the two nights thinking, well, we have enough time to go there, but on the card, but less shun our tactic division off the card again.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's okay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Gotta have something for the show before.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I appreciate the fact that we're at least getting some tag teams and getting number one contenders.

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[SPEAKER_02]: What do you know?

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[SPEAKER_02]: They did it on Friday.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They did it on Monday too.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, it must be something in the room.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, guys, we need no more containers.

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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, let's make sure we do it both nights.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, so yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And as far as the summer slam thing goes, you know, that eight match card, the eight matches they got, that's a solid one night right there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They go stretch that bad boy out to tonight.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They go add two more matches one on each night.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And we go get three hours and five matches on two nights.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so just having a great

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[SPEAKER_00]: One night show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's where we are.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hello, capitalism, because we have to stretch out our cards over two nights.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Who needs an eight match card?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Scott, we can have a six team match card over two nights.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you get to watch it back to back six o'clock and try to be done by at least ten and watch the press conference at ten and be done by eleven possibly like we have nothing else to do this weekend.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yay, there's that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's the future.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Welcome to it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just fascinating to me that even though we have two nights of WWE programming, we can't have the women's US Championship defended, can't have the tag team titles on the card, gotta do it the night before the week before, just fascinating how that happens.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That you still don't have the room in this space to get everybody on the show apparently.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You gotta put them on the night before, put them on the week before and say, hey,

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're doing something we're highlighting somebody, but not in the way that you should, because these championships should be on your major pay per view shows, your U.S.

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[SPEAKER_00]: or Miss Championship, the championship you created, Julia, most likely won't be on this card.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, um, you know, it sucks.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And unfortunately, this is kind of the norm now, you know, they do the five, six matches.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, we get a lot more of the secondary titles being defended and being presented on TV and the weekly TV.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And that's kind of

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[SPEAKER_02]: Ben, that's kind of been what he's done.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Triple H, I'm talking about as far as his booking since he's taken over, really.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, if you think about Gunther's icy title reign, majority of his matches were all on TV.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I mean, they were all compelling and you definitely made you intrigued to him, but most of those were on TV.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So it's not, this is not anything different.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Unfortunately, this is kind of what he does with the midcard titles.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and it's a choice of some areas, sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we'll see how you ultimately approach just things over the next couple of weeks, but the one other item of business of smack down that I do want to point out was this contract signing between Cody Rose and John Cena, however, before we get to that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We have to talk about what happened at the very beginning of SmackDown.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So there was a commotion outside, a car accident involving the team who bloodline and apparently Jacob Fattu.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, so low's crew, they looked banged up, you know, cuts on their forehead and they said, Jacob Fattu did it and so low one of that man arrested.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we had a

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[SPEAKER_00]: Scott, I appreciate this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: A police presence backstage.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they questioned Jacob thought to about what happened.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the police came back to Renacops arrived and they informed us that Jacob thought to was in fact innocent.

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[SPEAKER_00]: of all charges.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He has been free to go, but they found the culprit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They found the guy that instigated all of this who found a far, who found a false report and then set up the accident himself.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was not other than the United States champion.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, Losecola.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, as he was

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[SPEAKER_00]: being cocky and bragging and talking about, hey, I am going to walk out of here, US champion.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is my moment.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is all about me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Me, me, me, me, me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, solo got arrested.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And shout out to one of the officers for the smoothest way to arrest somebody because he put up solo saying or wrap it around his back and put those handcuffs on and they took them away.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then if you saw the backstage fall out, when solo was being sent to the patrol car, he stopped Cody.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Cody Rhodes and many terrorized and tormented as a part of the bloodline that said, Cody, amen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sorry.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Can you help me?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Cody looked at that man, smirked and walked away.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Solo was just pitching a fit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He was moody.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He was in the car.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I laughed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Solo is one of the greatest comedic gifts in WWE today.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The timings, everything.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I had a good laugh and it's official.

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[SPEAKER_00]: For some Islam for the United States Championship, it will be so low versus Jacoba to inside of a still cage.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, you know, I feel about scrap daddy because he thinks that this is going to keep the MFTs out, the my family tree out of this match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's dumb.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So this helps the MFTs and so low greatly, unless Jacob gets help in the form of big gym and possibly my guy, Tom Atonka, but we'll see.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, um, okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: First of all.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So those great facials, the reactions, the voice inflections, love everything about solo right now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And as far as the U.S.

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[SPEAKER_02]: title in the steel cage, oh, no, I'm sorry, before I get to that, the police presence, let me talk about that, the police presence you talked about, Chuck and Shack will be proud.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That was off for talking a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, it's dangerous, man.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And you got to make sure that there's hands ready for him.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So Tonga Lo is the most dangerous man in that building at all times.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No steel cage is going to keep him out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's definitely going to stand on top of it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm just saying, I'm telling you right now, you will one hundred recipients of that cage at some point during the match.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He might get thrown off.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He might jump off.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He might climb back down.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He is going to be standing on top of that cage.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I do love the standoff stuff.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's his thing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's his gimmick.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's a standard.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So that's going to be my most, that's what I'm looking forward to most about the match.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's tongue a little standing on top of the cage.

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[SPEAKER_00]: standing and shaking like a leaf, fifty feet in the air, just shaking and wondering what am I doing?

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[SPEAKER_00]: What am I doing with my life at this moment?

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[SPEAKER_00]: That is that it's decline on top of this cage and fall off of it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we're going to pray for Tonga Loa, the nerve of you to think that that's the most dangerous man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes to himself.

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[SPEAKER_00]: to himself to his own knees because if he does that knees go down he can't do what he's going to do which is not much and he'll be on the shelf again and that'll be a sad day because sky just got him back you know one of the greatest days of sky's life this past year I think that it was second only to the birth of his son and now he could be on this case

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[SPEAKER_01]: I got three of them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So listen, so one time a lower, like one tongue a lower might exceed or supersede one of Scott's children in terms of the birth of it all that his presence might have superseded birth number two.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that's how important tongue a lower is to Scott, truly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like he with the more time a lower baby shower if he could.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It would definitely be the second child.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We already forgot about it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He got the left over that lunch.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh man, we forgot to make you something.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But you know what he didn't eat his lunch.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He went to rest at a sandwich.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, he'll be used to it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh gosh, yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we'll see how it goes to summer slam, uh, scrap daddy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, you thought you was doing something still cage and met you and doing nothing trash trash trash trash trash trash trash trash trash.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I used to stand up for you all the time, but now I wonder about your managerial skills, but I digress it all with that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: as we now get to what I alluded to earlier, which was the main event segment of SmackDown.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was a contract signing between Cody Rhodes and the last real champion in WWE allegedly John Cena for their title match at SummerSlam.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, they realized that their match in WrestleMania sucked.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and that you cannot run back a traditional match at summer slam because quite frankly you might put the people to sleep.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So they have decided to raise the stakes of the anti-abit and now this match is going to be a street fight.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now what was fascinating about this closing segment was this assumption by some people on the socials thinking that at some moment during this promo exchange

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[SPEAKER_00]: that a double turn was taking place that John Cena was leading more baby face and Cody was leading towards being a heel.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I did not see that at all.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just thought it was Cody calling out Cena on his bullshit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So if they do try to do a double turn, it's something that we'll make no sense because it's not time to turn Cody just yet until a certain somebody decides to come back and infiltrate and ruin everything.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Cody Rhodes is still going to be a baby face, but that does not mean that the seeds are being planted for a John Cena baby face turn just in time for the retirement officially coming to effect by December.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I don't know about you, Keela, but I saw the exact moment where they switch roles of baby face and heel during that segment.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The exact moment when that was, I'll let you know, maybe it would be in the match, but there was an exact moment where they switch roles.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We just got to apparently look forward and find it because

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[SPEAKER_00]: You said it's so convincing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're saying, you know what, Keela, if you re-examine the footage, if you really pay attention and go back and see what was said, you'll catch it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then maybe in three months, we'll talk about it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And see if you remember the moment it actually happened.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Scott almost sold me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Think it, I was out of my mind because I said, did I really miss something?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Did I really not catch the hint?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he was so strong and how he said, it's so serious to the tone and such gravitas to it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I realized this man is bullshitting me, but there was no damn double turn.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Only in the imagination of those who want to see it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What?

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[SPEAKER_01]: What is this somebody to say that?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, what, what did you see in Cody's eyes as a baby you think that he was started heal?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And what did you hear from John Cena as he talked about faking an injury and say that he's not ready to compete.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Where in that did you hear him turn baby face like

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then let's let's not forget about the fact that we got Cody Rose apparently doing Eddie Guerrero frog splashes, even though I didn't see no lit, no knees bin.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't see no tuck.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I didn't see no extent.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I just saw him and look like a belly flop.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm not sure what's going on with the internet and what they were talking about was smack that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like they were watching two different shows.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe it felt like that was like some kind of sci-fi synergy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The things happened on sci-fi that felt a little bit different versus USA.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know because I just could have swore I saw a distinct baby face and Cody Rhodes talking to a pretty adamant heel in John Cena and roles were not reversed, not one bit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, Scott is talking about the frog splash.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now listen, now the man had a suit on and not only that, you know, I have seen enough the man, I'm trying my codey, the man just kicked up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's caked up and he can't do a lot when you're caked up in your suit, in your dress pants.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You can't do a lot of stretching and flying when you're caked up like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what kind of glute exercises Cody's doing in squats that man and the back recently is caked up more than usual.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's got more cake than the cheese cake factory.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's saying something.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, she's kicked back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: First of all, first of all, Cody, Cody is not working.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Working with that night.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sorry.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I haven't noticed it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Scott, I, I'm going to, and now listen, this is for science only.

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[SPEAKER_00]: When Cody comes out on SmackDown at his suit the next time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Look, I need you to have a look.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And just observe, those are at least five baskets of cheddar biscuits out there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Just just kicked up back there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I saw Ricochet do a springboard flying out of clothes line and pop up and fix his jacket.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Cody Rose can bend his knees and do a quick little tuck.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You try to hear that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You try than wearing a suit.

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[SPEAKER_02]: and tight pants and you try to stretch me me in a suit trying to get to that top rope is going to be more than enough.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right thing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think I'm just going to stick to that first rope and maybe just do like a a trust fall.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, coffee.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's the shoe with you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Just fall backwards.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Love coffee.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was dumb.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Trust.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Trust fall for my opponent to catch me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Get out of here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I love coffee, but that was still dumb.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We never did it with the myth, so he wouldn't let them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, you know what, you are always going to try to find a misreference when there is none to be found on this show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The Audacity and the Nerf of you, truly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So let's not have a guy, man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I hope collected and checked with the wife get just ignored every phone call that he's received from Triple H. Listen, as we said before,

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[SPEAKER_00]: ignore any calls with a Connecticut area code.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Anything from Stanford, I would not answer honestly because I don't know what you want.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we're just going to keep it pushing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So right now, he's wrapping up American Gladiators.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is being filmed in London.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Can you imagine filming a show called American Gladiators in your night in this country?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like that's just, you know, tax cuts are plenty.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I tell you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, it's about me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's about me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: to revive that show again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It just wow, it's just amazing to me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Amazing to me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that was the Macdown on USA.

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[SPEAKER_00]: a show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It existed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I do like to continue dynamic of Charlotte Flare and Alexa Bliss.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I do like them together.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They will now buy for the WWE Women's World Tag Team titles against Raquel Rodriguez and Roxanne Perez at Summer Slam looking forward to that match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Kind of foresee a title switch.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They are to kind of play into the momentum of Charlotte and Alexa getting over as a tag to mostly if they go over there when the time comes in a couple of weeks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But now let's get to Monday Night Raw.

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[SPEAKER_00]: from Houston, Texas.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So this show ends.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So out the house couldn't find a seat, but they were just there for one person.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They were there for one guy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They were going all vibes alone.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's fine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I thought the wrestling on this show was fairly good, but the crowd reactions throughout the night was definitely a choice.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We kick off the show with CM Punk and Gunther hyping up their match for the World Heavyweight Championship.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Summer slam.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Gunther always going to talk that talk.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Always going to make those points about why he's the very best of talking about egos, why I have one because you know why I got my ego based on what I'm doing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I can talk my talk because I got the ego and the resume to back it up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't need validation for these people to struggle my ego my ego is based on results.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So when you said that, I said, that's a bar and it's going to be a good match with a main event.

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[SPEAKER_00]: a night of summer slam.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think there are some viable options out there involving other people, but we'll see about it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Scott's like, I don't see it for them, but your thoughts on the opening segment and the overall crowd in Houston, just not being

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[SPEAKER_02]: I thought they were okay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like you said, they definitely had moments where you could definitely fill in a raise in the energy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Rear Ripley, Roman Reigns.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like you could definitely feel the energy shift.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But then again, those are just two mega stars.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I don't know if that's more so them or the crowd.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I thought they also kind of got up a little bit for the tag match.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I thought they, they kind of got a video W O sneak in that one, but

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[SPEAKER_02]: You're not wrong.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It wasn't as hot as you wanted it as far as the segment goes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I thought it was really good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Good first segment between it too.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They don't have a lot of interactions.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Gunther is firmly establishing himself as one of the more underappreciated on the mic.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And maybe that's even starting to not be true because I think people are starting to realize how good he is on the mic.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And the way he can just go in there and back it up.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The one thing

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[SPEAKER_02]: I do kind of dislike about this whole gunker thing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think they really hurt him a little bit is him tapping out the J. Uso is something that just didn't need to happen.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I feel like that's going to really stick with him for a long time.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's getting a lot of you tapped out chance when in moments and spots where it's not needed.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I think that's something that

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[SPEAKER_02]: Gunther is just going to have to work through.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I thought he did a good job of changing his pace and cadence when he was getting the what chance.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I thought that was really good as well.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Being able to counteract those chance and stuff like that is a sign that you're just getting real comfortable on the mic.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But CM Punk is going to have to bring it as far as a micro goes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This is going to be a tough test for him.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Gunther might be the best pure wrestler.

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[SPEAKER_02]: CM Punk is face since he's come back.

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[SPEAKER_02]: including a W. And there's an argument to be, man, that's not a hundred percent factual or anything like that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I think there is an argument to be made that Gunther might be the best pure wrestler that CM Punk has faced since he's come back to wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm excited about it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: As far as it closing out a night, I think you've got

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[SPEAKER_02]: you know, Sina Cody's closing out night two.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You've got three real options to close out night one.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Roman Reigns will always be an option to close out, but I think he'll open one of the nights.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think that's how you use him in one of these spots, especially since it's not going to be against Seth Roll.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so him opening a night of summer slam, especially with Jake Uso, that's a lot of energy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: A real good vibes right there to start to show.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Naomi, Rhea and Io, I think with Rhea being the most over baby face, actually the most over woman in the company right now, that's got to be your night one man event.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think you give the women that spot.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I kind of think we get a title change, but I think you give the women that spot.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You can you open that show with I think

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think what you do is you have the World Championships open and close night one.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, night two, or you have that semi-man event either way.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And Roman opens night one and the women close night one.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think that's a great way to go about spreading everything out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Let everybody have a little bit of room to breathe and, you know, just kind of

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[SPEAKER_02]: that type of energy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Keyless seems to have timed out, so it's just going to be me for a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We'll see how this goes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We can talk about the tag tag or the tag number one contenders masterful threat.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Creep brothers, LWO and versus, oh, and the new day.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The new day just don't have that same energy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm a fan of Xavier and the trunks.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think that's a good look, but there's just something missing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The big G is a pretty funny name, as far as Grayson Waller goes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I think the big E is still the guy that you want there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The match was good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: LWO getting the win was solid.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The finish was clever.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The young Joaquin wild.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think he he almost penned both guys.

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[SPEAKER_02]: One point both members of the new day, but it was just a really strong tag title match.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And third, I thought it was really enjoyable.

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[SPEAKER_02]: LWO getting a shot in the future.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Another one of those types where they have no idea what they're doing with the tag division.

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[SPEAKER_02]: but they're giving out tag title shots, judgment day having all the gold.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I foresee them losing all the gold at some point relatively soon.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's probably starting with AJ Styles and Dominique Mysterio at SummerSlam now that that's confirmed as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Glad to be back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what the hell happened.

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[SPEAKER_00]: First I lost you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Then I lost myself.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Then it timed out and I couldn't get back in.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But welcome back.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Me and Miss Much just talked about the the tag title match moved on to that talked about the gun to things talked about closing out and the summer slam nights, but that's about it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Now, it was just about to go to Lyra and Becky.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So before we get to Lyra and Becky, we got to talk about AJ Styles.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Who knew that later in life, he would be one of our great comedians in WWE.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He was a valet guy backstage trying to validate the parking for the judgment day.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Then he was a janitor later in the show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Then he was a part of the WWE medical team.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uncle AJ has come through with the funny and this feud with Dominic Mysterio.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I haven't enjoyed it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I have laughed out loud numerous times over this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I have had several good laughs and I thank AJ for that and and dirty Dominic too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I thank them both for adding some levity and smart humor to this feud.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, they've done a good job with it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think the match will be really good too.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This has potential to be one of Dominic's better singles matches.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's ever had.

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[SPEAKER_02]: If it's given time, it can mean a lot.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This could be a really big win for him.

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[SPEAKER_02]: One is, you know, a nice notch on his belt, or this could be AJ getting back into the groove and having kind of one last title run before he heads off to TNA, and hopefully has a match about for glory.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would love to see it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, the appearance was lovely, but I would love to see him be present to for TNA and a match that would be incredible.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That would definitely boost your numbers and attendants once again for another pay per view, but really get stuff with AJ and Dirty Dom, which means that Scott is going to see Dirty Dom unload the bag as some of us went potentially, even though he doesn't think the bag exists.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it does.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It will be unveiled when it counts most.

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[SPEAKER_00]: As some of a slam, you know, he doesn't believe it, but I do, or hardly so, but let's get to another topic that Scott was about to get into, which was Lyra and Becky Lynch, Becky Lynch.

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[SPEAKER_00]: is great to never weigh, you know, great micwork is always per the usual.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, it's a situation where she has definitely elevated the IC title heading into SummerSlam.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so the sex had been raised with Lyra and Becky heading into their match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So instead of just being for the IC title, it is going to be

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[SPEAKER_00]: No count out, notice qualification, there must be a winner.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And if Lyra wins, she'll be crowned the champion and Becky has to say, hey, on this tonight, you're better than me, but if Lyra in fact, if Lyra in fact loses this match at summer slam.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She could no longer challenge for that title as long as Becky Lynch is the champion as she agrees to those terms and Becky does agree to the no DQ no count of it all heading into their match at summer slam, which could be another main event where the match heading into the biggest party of the summer.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So meanwhile, earlier in the night, Bailey went to scrap daddy out of Pierce, our Roger Roman, our Roger Romanager, and she decided to run it back, WrestleMania style.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, despite her losing to Lyra in a two out of three follows the match last week, then Lyra won to earn the right to face back with the icy title.

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[SPEAKER_00]: As some of slim, Becky decided

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[SPEAKER_00]: I should say Bailey decided to cash in what could have happened at WrestleMania because it was supposed to be Lyra and Bailey versus the tag team champs at WrestleMania.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So she agreed or a Lyra, I should say was like, what are we doing?

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[SPEAKER_00]: But Bailey said, hey, I decided to have a match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: with you tonight, despite our issues, tag teaming together to face off against Raquel and Roxanne Perez for the tag team titles.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They have the match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The match is very good for what it is, but of course, Janana González foot when Becky gets involved and she helps Roxanne beat

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[SPEAKER_00]: Lyra and Bailey to retain the tag team titles.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Bailey, I definitely sense a hill turn, foreseeable, immediate.

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[SPEAKER_00]: How she's acting, pretending that thing has happened, losing, I sense it all, trust and believe that, I do.

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[SPEAKER_02]: caught a quick Charlie horse, had to run that off, had to walk that off real quick.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, woo, things that hit you real quick.

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[SPEAKER_02]: As far as a Becky Hogan and Lyra goes, I appreciate Becky embracing the gimmick.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I hope she continues to wear the colors.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I like the fact that Lyra ain't taking them more stuff.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And yeah, Bailey, Bailey's definitely getting involved.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The, the no rules and all that's got to be a winner.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The liar or not being able to challenge anymore.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Also makes me think that maybe she's moving up to that world title division, which would be a nice change of pace.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But, um,

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I enjoyed everything about the tag match was good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This is where I kind of agree with these things got a little quiet, even home town girl Raquel only got so much love.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Also shout out to Kevin Nash because Raquel is on a whole new level right now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I appreciate it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Listen, that is a veteran that imparted actual words of wisdom.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He told her, you need to work big because you're big.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Don't work small.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Don't diminish yourself.

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[SPEAKER_00]: go out there and horse.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And since that advice was given, she'd been out there, horse, and I appreciate that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like that's how you take veteran advice, good veteran advice, apply it to you every day, life in the ring.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you can see it pay off.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She has been much better lately for sure.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I agree.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And you know, she is, I'm probably never wanted to really buy her as a singles, but she will always be able to be, she's a great tag team wrestler, but she's a great tag team wrestler in that division.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She works well with anybody.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think she will always be able to have a spot in that company because she can just mesh well with anyone.

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[SPEAKER_00]: agreed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She's definitely found her calling as attacking specialist.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's definitely something she has excelled at with the live and now with Roxanne Perez.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Love their chemistry was a very good match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And this was when the crowd started to go to sleep for me in a lot of ways.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, well, we in Houston, hometown girl doesn't get a pop.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then we get to a match with Stephanie Vicarre and EOS guy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You think it's going to be automatic heat.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was just kind of there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, wow, these girls are wrestling their asses off.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we're giving mediocre reactions what's going on because Naomi definitely instigated things, telling Stephanie, well, hey, you had you beat.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Why don't you go and prove her wrong?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Why don't you go out there and challenge her to a rematch to see if you can beat her.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So she basically egged on this rematch on Monday night raw, love the action, still an indecisive winner because Naomi got involved.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do we at Chelsea get involved with the secret harvest as well?

53:43.930 --> 53:47.933
[SPEAKER_00]: Eventually, where Ripley comes out there and she lays out everybody.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it is building tours at Triple Threat at SummerSlam involving Naomi, the Women's World Champion versus Rear Ripley and E.O.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sky.

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[SPEAKER_00]: In my opinion, it should mean event night one of SummerSlam.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It should.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I agree.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I, uh,

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, they've, they're going out of their way to protect yo sky.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This is the second time she's had an indecisive or an inclusive finish to her match shot at the book or tea people could say what they want.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He has definitely gotten the devil's kiss over that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The crowd's not chaining devil's kiss.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They're chaining

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, getting the book or anything.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like that's shot out the book or team.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And he did his job and got her signature move over to the masses to the point where they're looking forward to it every match.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like when she did it on the apron, they wrote it back instead of ring.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They have really good chemistry.

54:43.427 --> 54:49.131
[SPEAKER_02]: This, this four title would feel bigger, but Stephanie's, you could tell they're, they're priming her.

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[SPEAKER_02]: If Naomi retains, I think Stephanie beats Naomi.

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[SPEAKER_02]: If Naomi loses, Stephanie's probably gonna take that rookie loss in her first title match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, it's going to go either way for sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll see how WWE plays it as some of SLAM ultimately heading into Clash and Paris as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: At the end of August, then we must talk about the main event angle of Monday and I robbed before we get to that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's talk about carrying across versus Sammy Zane, one on one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then we had carrying across the fee semisane with a shot with the lip pipe to the injured ribs to get the dub.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now there is like this battle once again between the internet versus what we see and versus reality.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then we have a contingent that wants to see carrying across get pushed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then we see the contingent of he can't work.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And now he's beating Sami Zayn and these matches aren't very good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I want to hear Scott's perspective on this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you see what some people are seeing and saying or do you just say, hey, the solid worker is to reach their own, which your taste level is varies.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This isn't a bad thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a good thing because you do hear fans in the arena support him a bit more loudly more so than before, but will it actually resonate in a long-term push and better work in the ring?

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[SPEAKER_00]: We shall see, but Scott your thoughts on all of this discourse going on surrounding carrying across as of late.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's weird to me because, you know, like you said, the crowd is definitely going going for him, but then you see and they talk about he can't work.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He can't do this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I just think he's just he's miscast right now like what's gotten him over isn't like the dastardly things that he's doing or it's it's it's really been like what he how he presents himself how he carries himself like people enjoy the fact that his story even though

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[SPEAKER_02]: WWE didn't do it intentionally.

56:54.030 --> 57:01.156
[SPEAKER_02]: His storyline, his character arc has been that everybody that he has touched and come in contact with has gone to the dark side.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's intriguing to people.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That appeals to the people.

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[SPEAKER_02]: What I think the internet, the IWC has got to realize is that everybody's wrestling doesn't have to be elite to be over.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's just the matter of the fact.

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[SPEAKER_02]: it is you can be an over you can be a compelling character by

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[SPEAKER_02]: getting a connection with the audience and he has that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like there is something there when he comes out, people want to see him succeed.

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[SPEAKER_02]: People want to see more of him.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Why can't he be in that shameless role where he is the baby face bruiser who gets the toss people around who gets the kind of be the guy who's like, you can change his whole path and just kind of go with the crowd and see if it's real.

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[SPEAKER_02]: see if that that reaction that he's getting that connection is real or if it's just something where they're like hey he's been here a while we like we like what he does on the internet let's push him and then see if it's a real thing but what you're doing right now this feels on a much smaller scale

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I guess it's a little different, but this feels like when they had Daniel Bryan, it's how it was and they decided to have him go into the wife family and wear trash suits.

58:24.586 --> 58:28.072
[SPEAKER_02]: So it feels very similar that whether forcing him to be

58:29.071 --> 58:34.933
[SPEAKER_02]: either's dastardly bad guy, when instead he could be the guy who stands up to the bullies for the baby faces.

58:35.474 --> 58:41.636
[SPEAKER_02]: Like that's such an easy role for a bigger, bigger baby face who tosses people around and knocks people out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like people will pay, like people will come to see that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's knocking people out left and right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's working his way back.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's standing up for this guy.

58:52.540 --> 58:55.862
[SPEAKER_02]: It's so easy to do, but they want him to be this character.

58:57.142 --> 59:07.706
[SPEAKER_02]: And you put up one of your most beloved baby faces against his character, who should be the Royal Rumble favorite, like you've been hinting at it for years.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And this is what you're doing, like it's very counterproductive.

59:13.489 --> 59:21.632
[SPEAKER_02]: And but as far as the internet goes, I just think they, there has to be a point where you realize that the wrestling

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[SPEAKER_02]: has to be done, but it's what you do as a character, is that connection that you make?

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's gonna make people come to watch you rest.

59:31.017 --> 59:35.380
[SPEAKER_02]: Once you get them in the seats, once they pay for you to wrestle, you've already got them.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You got what you needed out of them.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's not gonna be a main event guy, but if he's able to get a couple good big matches that draws people in, you can't ask for much more.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Great points across the board.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think it's a matter of

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[SPEAKER_00]: character placement and how we need to realign carrying across.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And a Scott said, if you're trying to build Sami Zane as your favorite to win the warrior rumble in Saudi Arabia next year.

01:00:08.172 --> 01:00:24.220
[SPEAKER_00]: Then why are we having your beloved baby face beef with a guy that's getting over organically with the crowd in matches where your perennial baby face who's beloved mostly is getting booed by

01:00:28.868 --> 01:00:32.689
[SPEAKER_00]: Just getting booed by the wrong place, wrong time.

01:00:33.569 --> 01:00:36.310
[SPEAKER_00]: Wrong place, wrong opponent is getting booed.

01:00:36.870 --> 01:00:41.812
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not getting that baby face reaction as you normally would because they want to roof a carry across.

01:00:42.472 --> 01:00:50.874
[SPEAKER_00]: And he did that worked promo after WrestleMania on that WWE post show podcast that popped everybody.

01:00:51.655 --> 01:00:56.236
[SPEAKER_00]: And at that point, you need to realign this character as a baby face.

01:00:56.916 --> 01:00:58.297
[SPEAKER_00]: It worked for Damian Priest.

01:00:58.877 --> 01:01:05.180
[SPEAKER_00]: He organically went from being a heel to a badass, baby face, a fans respected and appreciated.

01:01:05.220 --> 01:01:06.781
[SPEAKER_00]: It was a smooth transition.

01:01:07.241 --> 01:01:11.143
[SPEAKER_00]: And for carrying across, it can be a similar smooth transition.

01:01:11.483 --> 01:01:17.046
[SPEAKER_00]: So he can be a horse alongside the gothers and the shamises and the rusebs.

01:01:17.406 --> 01:01:21.868
[SPEAKER_00]: And the rusebs, if you want, if you want him in that echelon of stars in WWE,

01:01:23.049 --> 01:01:25.550
[SPEAKER_00]: But unfortunately, they're making this decision right now.

01:01:25.650 --> 01:01:26.810
[SPEAKER_00]: It's kind of bone-headed.

01:01:27.290 --> 01:01:32.371
[SPEAKER_00]: It's for him to be a heal that gets cheered by mulling the baby face.

01:01:32.391 --> 01:01:34.792
[SPEAKER_00]: You're trying to build up heading into the warrior rumble.

01:01:35.212 --> 01:01:40.913
[SPEAKER_00]: If you're trying to have him on a major championship between now and WrestleMania of next year, you're not doing a very good job of it.

01:01:40.953 --> 01:01:46.814
[SPEAKER_00]: You are basically sacrificing this for whatever reason to what end to damage both guys possibly.

01:01:47.314 --> 01:01:49.555
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, but the strategy right now sucks.

01:01:50.035 --> 01:01:57.019
[SPEAKER_00]: And I feel for both guys because this is not how you play it because you're damaging your damaging Samu Zain is a baby face.

01:01:57.360 --> 01:02:03.483
[SPEAKER_00]: And at the same time, your damaging care and cross is what he could be as a baby face by not doing this properly.

01:02:06.365 --> 01:02:11.768
[SPEAKER_02]: Now, if, you know, we get to the final blowoff match between two.

01:02:13.558 --> 01:02:26.032
[SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, it's really to give Sammy that edge to give him that aggression, that extra little bit that he might need to take it over the top face in the champion like a gunther, whoever he sends a go after.

01:02:27.213 --> 01:02:29.876
[SPEAKER_02]: If cross comes out and says, that's more like it.

01:02:30.016 --> 01:02:30.977
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what I want to see.

01:02:31.017 --> 01:02:34.181
[SPEAKER_02]: Now you go and do, you know, you go and win the world on whatever is supposed to be.

01:02:35.240 --> 01:02:40.102
[SPEAKER_02]: And this has all just been his little game to get the energy for him and that kind of start.

01:02:40.162 --> 01:02:46.665
[SPEAKER_02]: And then when this art ends, that starts his kind of arc of shifting over to the other side.

01:02:46.705 --> 01:02:57.509
[SPEAKER_02]: And now when he talks to people, he makes some good guy like, that would be that would be something that you could do that could be a very seamless transition, continue the same story.

01:02:57.829 --> 01:03:00.270
[SPEAKER_02]: But if that's what you're doing, that'd be pretty cool.

01:03:01.140 --> 01:03:07.242
[SPEAKER_02]: But again, we're not going to give them that much credit because we've seen the fumbling that's been going on.

01:03:07.282 --> 01:03:09.423
[SPEAKER_02]: But we'll see what happens with it.

01:03:11.524 --> 01:03:15.805
[SPEAKER_02]: At the least, Sammy will be fine, but it's just carrying can be doing more.

01:03:16.905 --> 01:03:21.007
[SPEAKER_02]: Scarlet looks great and their insurance is still top notch.

01:03:21.981 --> 01:03:26.483
[SPEAKER_00]: I love your biggest takeaway that Scarlett looks great at all times and she does.

01:03:27.104 --> 01:03:28.744
[SPEAKER_00]: She does, she does every time.

01:03:29.145 --> 01:03:31.426
[SPEAKER_00]: No misses at all with her and I do appreciate that.

01:03:31.986 --> 01:03:40.650
[SPEAKER_00]: But before we eat to the main event, Angle, we've got to talk about something that happened on a Monday night Raw that really bothered me.

01:03:41.531 --> 01:03:46.713
[SPEAKER_00]: It disturbed my spirit because it just happened randomly backstage.

01:03:48.054 --> 01:03:49.895
[SPEAKER_00]: That for the last year and a half,

01:03:51.175 --> 01:03:54.537
[SPEAKER_00]: WWE has teased a breakup of a tag team.

01:03:55.557 --> 01:03:56.758
[SPEAKER_00]: And they teased it.

01:03:57.558 --> 01:03:58.539
[SPEAKER_00]: They flaunted it.

01:03:59.179 --> 01:04:00.220
[SPEAKER_00]: They teased it.

01:04:00.940 --> 01:04:02.541
[SPEAKER_00]: They do it on our faces.

01:04:03.381 --> 01:04:18.649
[SPEAKER_00]: And then in a random segment on Monday night raw, Grayson Waller tells a new day that a town down under is no more because Austin theory is out with an injury.

01:04:19.349 --> 01:04:20.150
[SPEAKER_00]: And therefore,

01:04:21.462 --> 01:04:24.063
[SPEAKER_00]: Grayson Waller is finally free.

01:04:29.085 --> 01:04:40.109
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, shout out to Big G. And as far as Austin theory goes, it sucks because he's a Vince guy.

01:04:41.369 --> 01:04:48.032
[SPEAKER_02]: And Triple H has made it his mission slowly, but surely dispatch

01:04:48.932 --> 01:04:50.634
[SPEAKER_02]: of all events, men and women.

01:04:50.894 --> 01:05:04.626
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's not forget Bianca Bella was undefeated in singles and entitled matches, matches that weren't battle royals at WrestleMania and all of a sudden soon as Triple H's in charge, she's a pin for a loss in a title match.

01:05:06.327 --> 01:05:10.170
[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm just saying Austin Theory, we saw how strong he was.

01:05:10.511 --> 01:05:13.093
[SPEAKER_02]: He beat John Cena in the opening match at a WrestleMania.

01:05:13.950 --> 01:05:15.331
[SPEAKER_02]: Last year he won the tag titles.

01:05:15.792 --> 01:05:18.334
[SPEAKER_02]: Now he's just heard on main event losing the El Grande.

01:05:18.775 --> 01:05:31.787
[SPEAKER_02]: And so whoever was a events guy, Triple H is like not today, New Day, constant champions under events, nothing.

01:05:32.638 --> 01:05:34.440
[SPEAKER_02]: They just got new new music.

01:05:34.480 --> 01:05:35.300
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, it's rap music.

01:05:35.480 --> 01:05:36.481
[SPEAKER_02]: Give it to the black guys.

01:05:37.242 --> 01:05:40.725
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, I mean, what are we doing?

01:05:41.045 --> 01:05:49.592
[SPEAKER_02]: This is this is so on par for for Triple H. I mean, like he wants everything that's going on right now to be

01:05:50.453 --> 01:05:55.056
[SPEAKER_02]: his people or people that events that Vince McMahon didn't want to push.

01:05:55.616 --> 01:06:07.504
[SPEAKER_02]: Why, why else do you bring back a rusev and have him engage in a best of a, a knock-all best of seven that you had a shameless and Cesaro go through it when Mick Foley and GM.

01:06:07.664 --> 01:06:08.885
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, why would you do that?

01:06:09.245 --> 01:06:11.547
[SPEAKER_02]: Because he's somebody that Vince didn't want to push.

01:06:11.567 --> 01:06:13.568
[SPEAKER_02]: So now everybody's going to be like, well, watch this.

01:06:14.709 --> 01:06:15.529
[SPEAKER_02]: Watch what I do.

01:06:15.569 --> 01:06:15.689
[SPEAKER_02]: Like,

01:06:16.710 --> 01:06:17.970
[SPEAKER_02]: That's my takeaway from it.

01:06:18.070 --> 01:06:19.251
[SPEAKER_02]: I could be completely wrong.

01:06:19.291 --> 01:06:25.012
[SPEAKER_02]: And maybe I'm just over analyzing everything, but it just feels like to me.

01:06:25.932 --> 01:06:31.054
[SPEAKER_02]: Triple H is making sure that any remnants of events guy is gone.

01:06:31.334 --> 01:06:32.534
[SPEAKER_02]: That's why Lashley's not there.

01:06:33.094 --> 01:06:35.195
[SPEAKER_02]: Big Vince guy, not there.

01:06:35.415 --> 01:06:36.595
[SPEAKER_02]: So that's my takeaway.

01:06:38.521 --> 01:06:45.065
[SPEAKER_00]: You took the Lashley point right out of my mouth because I said, that's for example, A, B, and C right there, that that was his guy.

01:06:45.085 --> 01:06:46.186
[SPEAKER_00]: He pushed him.

01:06:46.206 --> 01:06:48.428
[SPEAKER_00]: He loved him and then under the Triple H administration.

01:06:49.108 --> 01:06:52.450
[SPEAKER_00]: Did not get a push water down the street from my face.

01:06:53.111 --> 01:06:54.452
[SPEAKER_00]: Didn't see him.

01:06:54.492 --> 01:06:55.693
[SPEAKER_00]: Didn't do anything with them.

01:06:56.153 --> 01:07:03.418
[SPEAKER_00]: Change the whole music called the Pride Rock from the Lion King and that lasted all of two months.

01:07:03.958 --> 01:07:09.604
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, I mean, when it comes to redacted skies, they don't get pushed.

01:07:09.664 --> 01:07:10.905
[SPEAKER_00]: They get pushed out the door.

01:07:10.925 --> 01:07:12.306
[SPEAKER_00]: They get downgraded a lot.

01:07:12.326 --> 01:07:18.032
[SPEAKER_00]: I think about the new day and this hill turn, they're sort of off so well and then look at their returns.

01:07:18.232 --> 01:07:20.674
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it has gotten them absolutely nowhere.

01:07:21.115 --> 01:07:22.936
[SPEAKER_00]: They got a nothing match at WrestleMania.

01:07:22.977 --> 01:07:24.758
[SPEAKER_00]: Drop the belts two months later and now

01:07:25.759 --> 01:07:26.279
[SPEAKER_00]: look at them.

01:07:26.920 --> 01:07:47.790
[SPEAKER_00]: And ironically enough, because they're so great, because Ophi and Xavier Woods are so great, they're going to get themselves back over his baby faces, because they're so great, because they're so great at being heels that are funny and charismatic, they're going to get themselves back over in spite of Triple H.

01:07:50.935 --> 01:07:55.396
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and maybe Austin theory decides to head on over to Contanamo Bay.

01:07:56.137 --> 01:07:58.137
[SPEAKER_02]: At least he might get a shot on a ring of honor.

01:07:58.777 --> 01:07:59.357
[SPEAKER_00]: Wow.

01:07:59.778 --> 01:08:00.238
[SPEAKER_00]: Wow.

01:08:01.118 --> 01:08:02.278
[SPEAKER_00]: That terminology.

01:08:02.398 --> 01:08:02.859
[SPEAKER_00]: Wow.

01:08:03.639 --> 01:08:04.219
[SPEAKER_00]: Wow.

01:08:04.259 --> 01:08:07.180
[SPEAKER_00]: Listen, listen, let's let's keep it a buck.

01:08:07.220 --> 01:08:07.980
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's keep it real.

01:08:08.340 --> 01:08:14.102
[SPEAKER_00]: If Austin theory were to leave WWE and he were to go to AEW and he unlocks.

01:08:14.822 --> 01:08:17.063
[SPEAKER_00]: this this mystery of who we is.

01:08:17.543 --> 01:08:29.187
[SPEAKER_00]: And he's able to just ball out and find himself through a ring of honor or a TNA, then hey, he's proven, hey, I can go out there and be who I meant to be.

01:08:29.927 --> 01:08:32.728
[SPEAKER_00]: Somebody appreciates somebody appreciates me out there.

01:08:32.848 --> 01:08:34.008
[SPEAKER_00]: So we'll see how it goes.

01:08:34.028 --> 01:08:40.050
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not going to lie with mine a little continental classic run on him.

01:08:41.362 --> 01:08:42.143
[SPEAKER_00]: That'd be awesome.

01:08:42.224 --> 01:08:43.125
[SPEAKER_00]: I would love to see it.

01:08:43.285 --> 01:08:43.746
[SPEAKER_00]: Test them.

01:08:43.766 --> 01:08:44.187
[SPEAKER_00]: I agree.

01:08:44.347 --> 01:08:46.912
[SPEAKER_00]: So if that's his future, we shall see.

01:08:49.086 --> 01:09:00.433
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the AAA guys versus the redacted guys, you can really see the differences for sure in terms of how people are pushed and elevated and downgraded along the way.

01:09:00.513 --> 01:09:02.434
[SPEAKER_00]: You can definitely see the differences.

01:09:03.035 --> 01:09:09.359
[SPEAKER_00]: As we now get to the main of an angle of Monday night raw, it was Paul Hayman alongside Braun Braun.

01:09:09.619 --> 01:09:11.880
[SPEAKER_00]: The Braun Brauns, that's what Roman calls them.

01:09:12.280 --> 01:09:16.003
[SPEAKER_00]: I swear to God, Scott, I swear to God, he was on his treadmill.

01:09:16.723 --> 01:09:20.704
[SPEAKER_00]: And he called them the brawn bronze.

01:09:22.165 --> 01:09:22.845
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, he did.

01:09:22.865 --> 01:09:24.305
[SPEAKER_00]: That is not me.

01:09:24.465 --> 01:09:30.187
[SPEAKER_00]: I just want to emphasize and I want to repeat and declare for the record.

01:09:30.207 --> 01:09:35.928
[SPEAKER_00]: I Kila did not call brawn breaker and bronze and read the brawn bronze.

01:09:36.188 --> 01:09:41.570
[SPEAKER_00]: That was Roman Reigns on his treadmill promo saying that about them.

01:09:42.410 --> 01:09:53.036
[SPEAKER_00]: So Paul Hayman basically said, Hey, because my guy set his out of commission right now, I would love to bring my guy Roman Reigns back in the fold.

01:09:53.456 --> 01:09:57.198
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I'm ready to, you know, acknowledge him again.

01:09:57.218 --> 01:10:00.480
[SPEAKER_00]: And he can lead us and he can rejoin the crew.

01:10:00.800 --> 01:10:01.561
[SPEAKER_00]: It's all good.

01:10:01.621 --> 01:10:02.701
[SPEAKER_00]: We all partners here.

01:10:03.142 --> 01:10:06.724
[SPEAKER_00]: Roman comes out says absolutely not like listen.

01:10:07.864 --> 01:10:22.068
[SPEAKER_00]: I made you, I elevated you were part of my family before we even did this thing with the bloodline five years ago, but you know, I took you in, but let it be known that the bloodline, oh, that was God.

01:10:22.728 --> 01:10:28.750
[SPEAKER_00]: That wasn't you that nothing to do with you like whatever was going with the bloodline that was ordained by God himself.

01:10:29.050 --> 01:10:33.356
[SPEAKER_00]: He built that tree, limb by limb, leaf by leaf, branch by branch.

01:10:33.776 --> 01:10:35.638
[SPEAKER_00]: I got that from the roots down.

01:10:36.119 --> 01:10:44.109
[SPEAKER_00]: So no, I'm not going to join this lazy, run down tea move version of whatever Seth wants to call this.

01:10:44.730 --> 01:10:49.693
[SPEAKER_00]: And then brawn breaker tries to step up and bromances stand down.

01:10:49.933 --> 01:10:50.974
[SPEAKER_00]: You don't want none of this.

01:10:51.454 --> 01:10:55.317
[SPEAKER_00]: And then brawn breaker does step up to Roman and say, listen, I'm the future of this place.

01:10:55.497 --> 01:10:56.178
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm the guy.

01:10:56.198 --> 01:10:57.298
[SPEAKER_00]: That's next step.

01:10:57.338 --> 01:10:59.180
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to be the WrestleMania main event.

01:10:59.220 --> 01:10:59.920
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to be the world.

01:10:59.960 --> 01:11:02.762
[SPEAKER_00]: Have a great champion someday and your time is passed.

01:11:03.122 --> 01:11:04.383
[SPEAKER_00]: And you got to let that go.

01:11:04.403 --> 01:11:06.965
[SPEAKER_00]: And now they try to get into a little bit.

01:11:07.585 --> 01:11:15.727
[SPEAKER_00]: Bronson and Bronn, a grafted Roman until Mayn Avenger, who so makes a save, even Ziaz and the baby faces stand tall to end the show.

01:11:16.147 --> 01:11:27.390
[SPEAKER_00]: And then a social media, Roman, all the treadmill calls out the Bronn Brons for a taxi match against himself and J. Uso as Roman acts as cousin, can you trust me one more time?

01:11:27.710 --> 01:11:32.792
[SPEAKER_00]: Can we stand side by side once more, to act team some of slam against the Bronn Brons?

01:11:33.472 --> 01:11:36.015
[SPEAKER_00]: and we'll see if that challenge will be accepted.

01:11:36.035 --> 01:11:45.785
[SPEAKER_00]: We know it will heading into summer slam in a couple of weeks, but Scott, your thoughts on this segment as I popped you because I'm just saying what Roman said, the bronze.

01:11:50.074 --> 01:11:52.775
[SPEAKER_02]: And if I ever hear a Paul Hammond call it in the brawn brawns.

01:11:53.935 --> 01:11:55.275
[SPEAKER_02]: It's the same.

01:11:55.296 --> 01:11:55.876
[SPEAKER_02]: It was good.

01:11:55.956 --> 01:12:02.297
[SPEAKER_02]: Brawnbreaker looked a little bit out of his element, but I think that's just might be him standing across the ring from Roman rings.

01:12:02.337 --> 01:12:03.738
[SPEAKER_02]: Things get a little bit different.

01:12:04.118 --> 01:12:08.859
[SPEAKER_02]: Situations get a little bit sticky when you're in there with the biggest guy in wrestling.

01:12:09.079 --> 01:12:11.520
[SPEAKER_02]: So I'll just chalk it up to that.

01:12:11.960 --> 01:12:23.581
[SPEAKER_02]: because he's a quick learner and I think he'll the next time they step in the rain for a face off with the mic I think he'll do much better wasn't bad it just when Roman cut his promo and then bron cut his

01:12:24.653 --> 01:12:25.033
[SPEAKER_02]: levels.

01:12:26.433 --> 01:12:29.554
[SPEAKER_02]: As far as physicality goes, that's where everything evens out.

01:12:29.674 --> 01:12:32.075
[SPEAKER_02]: And Braun is on anybody's level.

01:12:32.095 --> 01:12:34.095
[SPEAKER_02]: And he gave in day, it doesn't matter who you are.

01:12:34.175 --> 01:12:35.716
[SPEAKER_02]: So that part was great.

01:12:35.756 --> 01:12:37.076
[SPEAKER_02]: Jay coming out was great.

01:12:37.376 --> 01:12:39.937
[SPEAKER_02]: The dueling spirit, I think Jay was about to go there.

01:12:40.197 --> 01:12:41.337
[SPEAKER_02]: Good thing Jay hit the counter.

01:12:41.357 --> 01:12:43.398
[SPEAKER_02]: Because it looked like he was going for Johnson.

01:12:43.418 --> 01:12:45.458
[SPEAKER_02]: And he got a quick little turn right there.

01:12:45.498 --> 01:12:48.899
[SPEAKER_02]: So now everything about this was solid.

01:12:49.699 --> 01:12:53.180
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm definitely looking forward to the tag match that Summer's left.

01:12:53.777 --> 01:12:56.940
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, and the crowd magically woke up for Roman reigns.

01:12:56.960 --> 01:12:59.263
[SPEAKER_00]: They were just up for that segment when he was out there.

01:12:59.703 --> 01:13:01.385
[SPEAKER_00]: So they were awake and alert for that.

01:13:01.525 --> 01:13:07.171
[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, when Brian went to cut his promo on Roman, you know, what it was a bit too much.

01:13:07.191 --> 01:13:08.292
[SPEAKER_00]: Our for me.

01:13:09.113 --> 01:13:14.115
[SPEAKER_00]: We got to kind of tone that down and kind of figure out how how does your voice sound?

01:13:14.795 --> 01:13:23.578
[SPEAKER_00]: Naturally, because Roman has like this or a swag about him that's very cool and chill, but it has presence.

01:13:23.658 --> 01:13:24.818
[SPEAKER_00]: It has command.

01:13:24.838 --> 01:13:28.700
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that Brian is too animated.

01:13:29.780 --> 01:13:44.512
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like I have to be allowed to project to make my point perfectly clear, or if, but I think you need to find a bit more nuance so we cannot be as amped up because it really shows the levels as you said.

01:13:44.972 --> 01:13:49.935
[SPEAKER_00]: like Roman can be chill, he can drop bars and I don't have to be overly animated.

01:13:50.316 --> 01:13:56.280
[SPEAKER_00]: Braun has to be amped up, but I don't think he has to be in order to project his personality.

01:13:56.300 --> 01:14:00.302
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's gonna take a little bit of time to find that sweet spot and not be so far.

01:14:00.343 --> 01:14:08.208
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's just gonna take time and just more of him being in the ring with top talent like that.

01:14:08.268 --> 01:14:13.952
[SPEAKER_02]: So like I said, next time he gets that opportunity, I think he'll knock it out the part.

01:14:15.424 --> 01:14:16.064
[SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely.

01:14:16.104 --> 01:14:19.445
[SPEAKER_00]: So that was Monday Night Raw going down live in Houston, Texas.

01:14:19.485 --> 01:14:24.027
[SPEAKER_00]: And before we leave, we got to talk about NXT a little bit going down last night.

01:14:24.067 --> 01:14:25.368
[SPEAKER_00]: Scott says, no, we don't have to.

01:14:25.768 --> 01:14:29.089
[SPEAKER_00]: We can leave right now, but we have to talk about NXT.

01:14:29.549 --> 01:14:37.492
[SPEAKER_00]: It was a show also taking place in Houston, Texas last night, a pretty unremarkable show for the most part, not going to lie to you.

01:14:38.112 --> 01:14:44.519
[SPEAKER_00]: I think one of the few highlights on the show was actually trick in the Undertaker going back and forth on the microphone.

01:14:44.539 --> 01:14:54.570
[SPEAKER_00]: And Undertaker basically saying, I miss the old trick Williams, the one that hustle and enswashing Claude is way to become the NXT champion last year against the Leah Dragon.

01:14:54.831 --> 01:14:56.452
[SPEAKER_00]: Now this guy here is just

01:14:57.771 --> 01:15:20.169
[SPEAKER_00]: a guy he has a championship but he has no dog and a many more no fight now you just a dude that's egotistical then he's to be humbled the needs to show everyone around him respect and now you think you are above it all you got the bling you got the cow hide fit you think you're the guy but you're not and so tricks says I am the guy I'm better than everyone here

01:15:20.890 --> 01:15:38.357
[SPEAKER_00]: undertick us as not any proceeds of chokeslam trick Williams and trick selling of the chokeslam was hilarious borderline camp because dude he didn't have to do all of that but it was fine for what it was it will eat nothing because undertaker is not wrestling at the stage in life.

01:15:41.275 --> 01:15:46.538
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, take or just change just a big body now, man.

01:15:46.579 --> 01:15:49.400
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I don't think it did a lot for sure.

01:15:49.781 --> 01:15:55.865
[SPEAKER_02]: And like, take or really just know so everything you said, it was like, listen, don't talk.

01:15:55.905 --> 01:15:58.166
[SPEAKER_02]: Don't say something you can't, you can't handle.

01:15:58.286 --> 01:15:59.587
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I'm still him.

01:16:00.047 --> 01:16:01.788
[SPEAKER_02]: And then he still lays him out at the end.

01:16:01.808 --> 01:16:02.289
[SPEAKER_02]: Nah.

01:16:03.033 --> 01:16:03.634
[SPEAKER_02]: Not for me.

01:16:04.656 --> 01:16:07.580
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, I think they could have done a lot more.

01:16:07.640 --> 01:16:18.036
[SPEAKER_02]: I think trick maybe getting a cheap shot in and running away like the cowardice is, you know, maybe getting a quick punch to the face, then take a go for the choke slam when he gets him up, trick slips out like.

01:16:19.017 --> 01:16:36.693
[SPEAKER_02]: save that moment save take or choke slamming him because let let trick have that let the he'll have a moment because then whenever you feel like it whenever you feel like it you can have the undertaker show right back up when I see whenever tricks there because he has a receipt coming to him like

01:16:39.220 --> 01:16:51.148
[SPEAKER_02]: There has to be a reason that these simple things, these simple storytelling elements and things and procedures that they have aren't being used.

01:16:51.168 --> 01:16:59.874
[SPEAKER_02]: He just came off of a huge victory at the promotion that he's holding the title for is one of their biggest favorite views they've ever had.

01:17:00.554 --> 01:17:01.315
[SPEAKER_02]: Instead of him,

01:17:02.569 --> 01:17:16.417
[SPEAKER_02]: like the back and forth is fine, but instead of him having that moment where he gets to get the one up on the legend just for one week instead of him just having that moment and then having taker get that receipt in your back pocket whenever you want.

01:17:17.778 --> 01:17:19.579
[SPEAKER_02]: You just let taker choke slam.

01:17:21.901 --> 01:17:23.762
[SPEAKER_02]: I got not a fan of it.

01:17:25.042 --> 01:17:28.685
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it was definitely just kind of there.

01:17:29.943 --> 01:17:32.065
[SPEAKER_00]: kind of didn't help trick it all.

01:17:32.825 --> 01:17:43.854
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, you went back and forth the end of the take or but it was like we went back and forth but to what end exactly to talk about a show the no one watches.

01:17:44.674 --> 01:17:53.721
[SPEAKER_00]: LFG is a show that only the hardcore WWE fans all eighty nine thousand of them watch every Sunday.

01:17:53.741 --> 01:17:56.483
[SPEAKER_00]: It is a show that has no interest.

01:17:57.897 --> 01:18:02.462
[SPEAKER_00]: But Billy Ray, as we talked about earlier, got no pop on the show.

01:18:02.982 --> 01:18:05.164
[SPEAKER_00]: He appeared on screen and no one cared.

01:18:05.645 --> 01:18:08.127
[SPEAKER_00]: Michelle McCool popped up, no one cared.

01:18:08.968 --> 01:18:18.097
[SPEAKER_00]: Undertaker, he got someone of a pop, but they've seen him so much backstage ran a moon in XT and got no pop, but it doesn't really matter when you see him so much already.

01:18:18.177 --> 01:18:21.099
[SPEAKER_00]: So like my issue continues to be.

01:18:21.840 --> 01:18:25.323
[SPEAKER_00]: We are pushing a show that very few people are watching.

01:18:25.743 --> 01:18:29.286
[SPEAKER_00]: There was no crossover from NXT to LFG.

01:18:29.827 --> 01:18:30.767
[SPEAKER_00]: That is a fact.

01:18:30.807 --> 01:18:33.590
[SPEAKER_00]: They've tried this for weeks now, no one cares.

01:18:34.090 --> 01:18:38.314
[SPEAKER_00]: Crime example number two, Jasper Troy versus Ricky Saints.

01:18:39.254 --> 01:18:42.797
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what that finish was with the stage collapsing.

01:18:43.218 --> 01:18:47.942
[SPEAKER_00]: And Ricky falling through said stage and Jasper splatched some gifts to win the account out.

01:18:49.390 --> 01:18:51.313
[SPEAKER_00]: I've said this for some time now.

01:18:52.014 --> 01:18:53.856
[SPEAKER_00]: Ricky says that a place in NXT.

01:18:54.817 --> 01:18:57.701
[SPEAKER_00]: I just don't think this is the right show or brand for him.

01:18:57.721 --> 01:18:59.643
[SPEAKER_00]: He needs to be on the main roster.

01:19:00.104 --> 01:19:02.387
[SPEAKER_00]: There is literally nothing for him to do here.

01:19:02.848 --> 01:19:05.231
[SPEAKER_00]: He needs to move up as soon as possible.

01:19:09.178 --> 01:19:10.721
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, changing scenery would be good for him.

01:19:12.706 --> 01:19:17.315
[SPEAKER_02]: He's been doing a dial a little bit, but yeah, changing scenery, fresh face, and fresh scene.

01:19:17.716 --> 01:19:20.161
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think that entrance to do a lot better on a bigger stage.

01:19:21.610 --> 01:19:22.511
[SPEAKER_00]: I agree for sure.

01:19:23.431 --> 01:19:31.397
[SPEAKER_00]: I will say one of the highlights was all ego-eaten page introducing the Canadian-fied North America championship.

01:19:31.437 --> 01:19:33.358
[SPEAKER_00]: That belt actually doesn't look lovely.

01:19:33.458 --> 01:19:33.958
[SPEAKER_00]: It does.

01:19:34.019 --> 01:19:37.221
[SPEAKER_00]: And that leads to Sentinel Morella coming out.

01:19:37.821 --> 01:19:46.167
[SPEAKER_00]: And he challenges all ego to a match next week for the NXT North American Championship.

01:19:46.707 --> 01:20:11.327
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, what's so interesting to me is that after TNA's big show ever, in terms of attendance and social engagement and possible by rate, Centino is the only TNA representative to show up to confront anybody after Slam reversory, not Santana, not Joe Hendry, no one.

01:20:11.828 --> 01:20:14.250
[SPEAKER_00]: That was definitely a choice.

01:20:16.833 --> 01:20:17.553
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, follow up.

01:20:17.573 --> 01:20:18.354
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not good.

01:20:19.154 --> 01:20:21.196
[SPEAKER_02]: We'll see what they have in store on impact.

01:20:21.276 --> 01:20:27.839
[SPEAKER_02]: But as far as with the most eyes, it definitely seemed like the TNA story took a back seat today.

01:20:27.859 --> 01:20:35.764
[SPEAKER_02]: I think they thought that trick having the title on Raw and showing up on Tuesday, getting the end and taking her back and forth would be enough.

01:20:35.804 --> 01:20:38.185
[SPEAKER_02]: But we'll see what they do on Thursday.

01:20:38.826 --> 01:20:45.570
[SPEAKER_00]: They shall see for sure across over Thursday as we now get into the main event of NXT, which is for the NXT championship.

01:20:45.630 --> 01:20:45.870
[SPEAKER_00]: It was

01:20:47.772 --> 01:20:51.914
[SPEAKER_00]: You seek it in a mora and Josh Briggs versus Opafemi for the title.

01:20:52.435 --> 01:20:53.495
[SPEAKER_00]: Thought the match is very good.

01:20:53.515 --> 01:20:55.917
[SPEAKER_00]: I thought the last five minutes was especially strong.

01:20:55.937 --> 01:20:57.978
[SPEAKER_00]: And then Oba does he does best.

01:20:58.198 --> 01:21:05.102
[SPEAKER_00]: And he gets to W. Very fun, big band battle, gray spots throughout Josh Briggs is officially a heal.

01:21:05.122 --> 01:21:08.044
[SPEAKER_00]: As checkout is former tack team partner in a mora.

01:21:08.444 --> 01:21:11.666
[SPEAKER_00]: And that probably to a single smash down the road between those guys.

01:21:12.146 --> 01:21:13.527
[SPEAKER_00]: Were they waiting to heat wave?

01:21:13.668 --> 01:21:17.051
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, but I thought the main event itself ended the night on a high note.

01:21:17.471 --> 01:21:24.699
[SPEAKER_00]: And now, base of what taker told you on Evan's backstage, that you need to focus on the big guy who has the main championship that you've covered.

01:21:24.799 --> 01:21:30.585
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think they're definitely heading towards old befemmy versus Javan Evans for the NXT championship.

01:21:30.605 --> 01:21:33.247
[SPEAKER_00]: But heat wave, I think it was a match you've talked about.

01:21:33.888 --> 01:21:42.271
[SPEAKER_00]: for a few months now, because we said by the end of this year or before, it needs to be Javanev as it's time to be champion that could be happening.

01:21:42.311 --> 01:21:50.073
[SPEAKER_00]: Because now we hear Corey Graves and Vig Joe's of talk openly about Oprah Famous prospects on the main roster.

01:21:50.473 --> 01:21:51.994
[SPEAKER_00]: Sounds like a call up is a common.

01:21:54.047 --> 01:22:06.640
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, not a bit big went for Evans and yeah, we had we've talked about it for a while so it's something that we've we've definitely seen on the horizon open moving up will be a big move.

01:22:07.161 --> 01:22:08.803
[SPEAKER_02]: I hope then he does move out.

01:22:08.823 --> 01:22:12.467
[SPEAKER_02]: They give them the rocket strap and this was actually this was a good use of taker.

01:22:12.987 --> 01:22:21.951
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, given the pep talks, telling the young guns, you know, you got to go after it, this film reminiscent of him talking the scene of backstage.

01:22:22.791 --> 01:22:31.255
[SPEAKER_02]: After seeing his match, I think it was either Kurt Angler, Chris Jericho, Cameron, which one were taking one backstage and gave him that, you know, he gave him the kind of the nod of approval.

01:22:32.295 --> 01:22:33.376
[SPEAKER_02]: This is a good use of take.

01:22:33.517 --> 01:22:35.098
[SPEAKER_02]: This is the type of things I'd like to see.

01:22:35.158 --> 01:22:38.762
[SPEAKER_02]: Him interacting backstage with the people, giving them something they can use.

01:22:38.802 --> 01:22:41.285
[SPEAKER_02]: But I like the triple thread was real strong.

01:22:41.305 --> 01:22:43.107
[SPEAKER_02]: I think Briggs would be a really good heal.

01:22:43.528 --> 01:22:44.809
[SPEAKER_02]: Love the close line from hell.

01:22:45.630 --> 01:22:47.152
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, over still that guy.

01:22:48.370 --> 01:23:05.455
[SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely open one of the strongest champions they have and looking for it to whatever happens heading to he wave and that was a show on a mark of one X T that's been the case for some time now just is what it is right now what show to be focused and better and kind of refocus on what they were

01:23:06.215 --> 01:23:10.897
[SPEAKER_00]: Besides trying to be a hybrid for you evolve and LFG a show that no one watches.

01:23:11.037 --> 01:23:17.459
[SPEAKER_00]: I want to just probably say no one watches that show in huge numbers, but they got a season two for whatever reason.

01:23:17.939 --> 01:23:18.560
[SPEAKER_00]: Good for them.

01:23:19.260 --> 01:23:22.741
[SPEAKER_00]: But now it's time for us to beat you guys to do before we do.

01:23:23.242 --> 01:23:26.223
[SPEAKER_00]: It's now time to reveal the match of the week.

01:23:26.743 --> 01:23:31.625
[SPEAKER_00]: Scott actually shot it out of match from WWE main event.

01:23:32.445 --> 01:23:37.167
[SPEAKER_00]: So he's been watching all WWE products across multiple platforms.

01:23:37.667 --> 01:23:51.372
[SPEAKER_00]: So will he go in his bag and pick a match for main event, speed, evolve on to be, raw, SmackDown NXT, AAA, maybe, you decide.

01:23:51.392 --> 01:23:57.215
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, usually I go to Contanamo Bay for to pull my,

01:23:58.851 --> 01:24:04.533
[SPEAKER_02]: my match of the week, but I think this week it's going to be a TNA versus TNA.

01:24:05.793 --> 01:24:10.655
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, just TNA doing TNA things and some things never change.

01:24:11.075 --> 01:24:17.177
[SPEAKER_02]: Unfortunately, they got the wrong guy from WWE to come and try to bring some change because he likes the book the same way.

01:24:18.178 --> 01:24:19.158
[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah.

01:24:19.438 --> 01:24:24.560
[SPEAKER_02]: TNA versus TNA, biggest crowd they ever had shot themselves in the foot.

01:24:24.780 --> 01:24:26.141
[SPEAKER_02]: Like I said, the show was solid.

01:24:26.581 --> 01:24:30.042
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just that main event's gonna leave us sour tasting people's mouths.

01:24:30.522 --> 01:24:31.523
[SPEAKER_02]: I think they'll be back.

01:24:31.923 --> 01:24:36.685
[SPEAKER_02]: I know some people online have been saying that they won't even get half the crowd, which is ridiculous.

01:24:37.145 --> 01:24:39.766
[SPEAKER_02]: But, yeah, TNA versus TNA.

01:24:41.663 --> 01:24:46.825
[SPEAKER_00]: TNA versus TNA, spy versus spy, it is what it is.

01:24:47.605 --> 01:24:48.986
[SPEAKER_00]: Welcome to twenty twenty five.

01:24:49.026 --> 01:25:06.652
[SPEAKER_00]: When TNA is to let war with itself to be great in twenty twenty five, a survivor of multiple sales and possible foreclosures and they still fight amongst themselves to try to get it right at the end of the day.

01:25:10.002 --> 01:25:15.468
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, that's a wrap for this episode of the wrap right here on the fake media network.

01:25:15.508 --> 01:25:17.971
[SPEAKER_00]: I do want to thank my co-capped and soft.

01:25:18.011 --> 01:25:22.496
[SPEAKER_00]: He's got young for joining me to be cap the week so far in WWE and TNA.

01:25:25.323 --> 01:25:26.604
[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you, Brad McKee, as always.

01:25:26.644 --> 01:25:29.447
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a pleasure to chop it up and talk all things WWE.

01:25:29.547 --> 01:25:31.388
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to give TNA one week.

01:25:33.110 --> 01:25:34.511
[SPEAKER_02]: We'll see what they do on Thursday.

01:25:34.531 --> 01:25:37.594
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to give them that first hour.

01:25:38.274 --> 01:25:39.135
[SPEAKER_02]: They piss me off.

01:25:39.195 --> 01:25:40.837
[SPEAKER_02]: I won't be back until the next show.

01:25:42.598 --> 01:25:44.380
[SPEAKER_02]: You see, you got next week.

01:25:45.510 --> 01:25:48.512
[SPEAKER_00]: what a close heat as we bid you are due.

01:25:48.532 --> 01:25:50.593
[SPEAKER_00]: We'll be back next week.

01:25:51.174 --> 01:25:53.876
[SPEAKER_00]: It is a combo for this summer's lamb storm.

01:25:53.896 --> 01:25:57.058
[SPEAKER_00]: It'll be actually Scott.

01:25:58.275 --> 01:26:00.056
[SPEAKER_00]: The preview show next week.

01:26:01.017 --> 01:26:04.419
[SPEAKER_00]: The preview show for a two night summer slam.

01:26:05.139 --> 01:26:06.540
[SPEAKER_00]: No West for us at all.

01:26:06.600 --> 01:26:08.421
[SPEAKER_00]: So we'll be back next week to preview.

01:26:09.122 --> 01:26:09.922
[SPEAKER_00]: That show.

01:26:10.503 --> 01:26:12.064
[SPEAKER_00]: Biggo prediction special.

01:26:12.584 --> 01:26:13.885
[SPEAKER_00]: Make some bow prediction.

01:26:13.945 --> 01:26:14.745
[SPEAKER_00]: See who's right.

01:26:15.206 --> 01:26:16.206
[SPEAKER_00]: See who's wrong.

01:26:16.226 --> 01:26:20.289
[SPEAKER_00]: And until then for myself and for Sochi Scott Young.

01:26:20.769 --> 01:26:24.592
[SPEAKER_00]: That is a wrap for the week so far in WWE until next Wednesday.

01:26:25.332 --> 01:26:28.574
[SPEAKER_00]: Take care and bye-bye and don't.

01:26:29.394 --> 01:26:33.496
[SPEAKER_00]: Don't ever pull a TNA being a TNA.