The Mercedes Vs. Maya World Discourse, Sami Zayn Is the New WWE Champion | Takedown

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was quite a week in a wrestling there, huh?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's too much, man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Welcome back to Take Down, Paul and I are here, and we're gonna chat about stuff that we saw, stuff that I saw live, stuff that I didn't see that Paul saw, and we'll go over some of the big conversations that are happening as a result of what's going on in WWE and AEW.

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[SPEAKER_00]: First off,

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[SPEAKER_00]: What was your strategy to get through everything?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because I know you were trying to get through forbidden door by Sunday evening.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You didn't get to it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So what was your attempt to get through all this stuff?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, the problem is, and I forgot about this, the problem is the NHL draft was on this weekend.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I am a die hard, like I watched the draft.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I watched the draft every year since 1984.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and there's like two rounds.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So like, you know, it's 10 hours in total of coverage.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, I skim through some of it, but I probably watch at least six hours of it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that set me off.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then there's Blue J's games, which I watch every single inning.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, like, I, if it wasn't for the draft, I would have got to it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But as it is, I just tried to watch everything in order.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, and then collision, I actually watched collision on Saturday night because it's on TV and I'm just, you know, that's the way I am if it's on TV, I'll watch it earlier and everything else was streaming.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Actually, the NXT show also was on TV, so I watched that one Sunday night, I think.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so yeah, and then, you know, so I got to, I finally got to, um, uh, double forbidden door today as well as raw.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I watched everything, I'm watching NXT, and I won't watch that until tomorrow, but, um, yeah, and I thought, you know, the shows all were, you know, had their good moments.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, uh,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, not that the AW show is the best show overall, but it's so damn long.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, even if it was only that show, I would stay, I watched too much wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, some people love that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, it's just a lot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we got there at 3 p.m. our time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you got into like midnight right midnight got out of the midnight came back Recorded our post game show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think I was in I think I would finally was asleep at like 230.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my god Yeah, that's and that would have been like 430 for me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you know like that's insane.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Wow But I mean, he's not a good show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was a good show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it is

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[SPEAKER_00]: a lot of fun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But like, okay, if if showed it, um, no one pock and that tag team tile mats work on the show, would it have been a were show?

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, not it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you might even have been better.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, uh, if you got Jay White, so the Jay White moment was great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that might be my favorite moment of the night, honestly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the the Pock, the pack and show to Umino wasn't necessary, but you needed the new Japan win.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, just for political reasons.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, yeah, and I mean, and it is forbidden or, you know, so, you know, I find it odd, even though I agreed with it, like to have yet the triple main event and all three of the main events was all a w versus a w even though it was a new Japan startup, the ML all co-branded show and you had a world title match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I mean, granted it was a women's world title, but I'm surprised nobody was upset about that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I wasn't either, but, you know, like you think like if you have a triple main event, maybe your world tile match could be one of them, but, and that was a really good match too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Enough people were upset about.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Mercy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I see.

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[SPEAKER_00]: My work.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It turned out something that hasn't even happened yet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, they'll be, they'll be a whole new round of upset on Friday.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, so actually let's start with the WWE stuff as far as stories coming out of the champion.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you'd kind of been feeling this way that Sammy Zane was going to win the title.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no, no.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I wasn't.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I, I was shocked.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I, I felt that he was being doing really well and I thought he was getting over and he was going to get more over, but I wasn't expecting him to win on site.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I could have swore that you said at some point you thought,

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what, now that I think about that, may have been my prediction at the beginning of the year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I might have been expecting it at the Royal Rumble.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because I think my prediction was, if we went back to our beginning, I think I predicted, and this could end up happening, I predicted Samu is gonna win the title and then Ober family was gonna win the title from Samu.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was, I should have done the Brian Alvers prediction contest because that would have won.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that's, you know, a two-party prediction, you know, with involving one thing that probably wasn't going to happen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, but, but I mean, I would say like a week ago, I didn't think so.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was spoiled by it because I I got to know someone sent me a DM on Twitter.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I I clicked on it and when I clicked on the Twitter and open up the app, it took me to my feed and the first thing I saw was Dave Meltzer, Sammy's name won the title in a three.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I got spoiled on it too, but I did watch it Saturday, not that long after it ended.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and and I thought it was, I mean, I was really surprised because I was expecting to be like a

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it was, and he got over he pin Cody.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He didn't pin Gunther.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it got over.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, the, it was what the fans wanted.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, and, and Sammy was a total baby face.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it works in the storyline because he's playing Brett Hart 1997.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and it's trying.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, trying.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's trying to do that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and so in Saudi Arabia, he was basically Bretton Canada.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, and if, and you know, he might come back, I don't know what happened when they take last night.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe you've heard already.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You probably listen to the rest of the games over radio.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't know if he got booze last night.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I have like 10 minutes left on it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I, it sounds like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: they're going to do Cody and Sammy on Monday like next week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh-huh.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I don't think he'll lose the title right away, but I don't expect he's going to have it long.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, Brock could beat him for it, I suppose.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then you could do, I mean, we'll get into Brock and Oberb.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, which would be Brian Zalim's prediction.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god, but but I still I'm still holding out hope that they do like two nights, you know, like where Sammy defend on the second night and and Oben Brock is the first night, but what we'll get into that later.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I thought the match was a lot of fun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, I've kind of resigned myself to that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, as soon as it was Gunther Seth with two weeks notice at WrestleMania, you know, that I kind of stopped caring about that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I love the same story like who doesn't love Sami Zane as the world champion, but you know, and I know he is not to chosen one and he's going to be a transitional champion, even he knows that he knows that and so it's a little bit of a token, it's a little bit of an appreciation and I'm sure it ends up being an angle to get heat on somebody else.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and I mean, it's no different than when Foley won it like all three times.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, like, and, and honestly, the way that when Darby won it in the W, even most recently, I mean, it ended up being a hell of a title run, but realistically, all he was was upon in the storyline, you know, but, but he got over and he made himself into a main event or which he wasn't before that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So kind of in similar to Foley in a way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: in that sense, you took, Edge was supposed to be that and ended up making himself into a main eventor.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you can do something, I don't think it will happen with Sammy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think he has that motivation to do that, that those other guys did.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Can we get KO out there for five few I sure feel like that's happening.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're mentioning him a lot and and he's all over the television that you don't watch so I see what the what is it the LFG or he's on LFG.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and I think he's been on I think he was on the NXT all over the NXT show in Saturday too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: really yeah or Sunday yeah yeah the pre show and then they kept going back to it during the broadcast so he was he was all over it um like again he's not hinting at a return or anything but the fact that he's there is good he's always entertaining honestly I could deal with him just being a manager or a commentator like he's he's that entertaining guy no matter what I think I think he'd get frustrated pretty quickly though no doubt yeah like like Brian Daniels

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so we have Sammy, one of the world title, the other match that was kind of, I guess that people had eyes on was Oba and whether or not he was going to win.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He did end up winning.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You beat Jay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Clean.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Very, very simple match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No bloodline involved.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Nope.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, no solo.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No.

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[SPEAKER_00]: no Jacob.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So just straight up, just Jay taking an L for over.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, but took a little bit from him, which, you know, he's probably more than he sold for just about anybody.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then on Monday, over comes out and Brock comes out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Brock big times the entire segment.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He basically said, I don't watch money net raw.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He said this two times.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He like made his point twice.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He doesn't watch television.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's why he has Paul and then kicked over right in the nuts, Ober fell down to his knees, got up, basically called Brock a bitch again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then this is where I think they went wrong on this story.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Ober challenged Brock to a match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and Brock said, only if it's hell in the cell, which got the big pop, I think they said they should have flipped it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think oba should have asked Brock for a match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Brock says no.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then, oba calls him a bitch again and says, what if we do it in hell in the cell?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, man, I honestly think oba should have to put his crown up for grabs like if Brock's the one with the leverage like I think Well, I mean, what what does the crown even mean, I mean it gets just gets a title shot right just the title shot is supposed to happen at summer slime

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I don't think it's happening.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think there's no.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think I think you're right because I mean, I was listening very carefully because I, you know, I saw, you know, I had been avoiding the discord for a few days and then I saw, you know, like some comments in there, like before I really watch the segment.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, um, and so I was listening to see her like, do they address it?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the only thing they really said was,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oba presumably has given up his title shot at Summer Slime.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's the way they phrased it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So specifically said, title shots will be there like in his promo.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so he's either saying he's going to take it at a later time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, the funny thing is, and I was trying to remember if it was him that did it, but it was actually, um, it was Javan.

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[SPEAKER_01]: who when Ober was the champion and NXT, Javon won a title shot at one of the specials.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then he said, no, I want it next week on television.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then he took it in New York and in John Cena that one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and then he lost.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so, and then oh, I ended up leaving the territory without losing the title, but so I, you know, I could see maybe like they do the title shot either before summer slam or it like said, I mean, I still kind of hold not hope for my prediction that it's two nights and so maybe we get Sammy and maybe good third.

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[SPEAKER_01]: on night one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then you have Oben Brock as well on night one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then the two winners face each other on night two.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think if you were if you were going to do that, I think you'd have Obo beat Brock on night one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then on night two.

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[SPEAKER_00]: after somebody wins, then he says, hey, you know, I still won the King of the Ring.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What about now the only problem with that, though, the only problem with that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's facing a tired person and he's maybe faced.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't think that that works either.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So true, true.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I mean, and if you did mine, then I assume I haven't looked this up, but I assume the raw on Monday is also in Minneapolis.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So if it is, you could do, like so if you do my idea of, oba beats Brock on Saturday, Sammy beats Cody,

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[SPEAKER_01]: or Gunther, or sorry, Gunther beats Sammy, oba beats proxy, do oba and Gunther on Saturday on Sunday in the main event, oba wins, then Brock attacks Gunther after the match, and then you do Brock Gunther on Monday Night Raw as the main event, and that's Brock's retirement match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You could do that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I don't know if they'll do it, but to me, it makes sense because I think no matter what Brock's last weekend is probably that weekend, but I don't know that, but that seems to be the rumor.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, I think I'm, I mean, I don't think I'm speaking at a turn here in saying that the Sammy thing felt a little bit last minute.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We booked ourselves into a corner like I can't imagine that from the beginning of this tournament that this is how they had it, but and I'll caveat that by saying All three main events that Dave Meltzer talked about months ago looked to possibly be happening.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So Roman Seth

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I, the funny thing is is like, when this tournament was announced, I looked at the brackets and I was like, okay, oh, was going to win the king of the ring.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it just made total sense to me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's the ruler.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's the only part of it that doesn't make sense is the winner getting a title shot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's why I thought Seth was going to win right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, but I mean, that's, but that's, so when you say that that wasn't the plan, I think it was the plan.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They just didn't have a plan for after he won.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I think he was always going to win the tournament.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He may very well, but it does feel like

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[SPEAKER_01]: They booked themselves as new a corner for no reason.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They could have just said it was for our title shot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they didn't have to specifically say it was for a title shot at Somerslam.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like that, you know that, that and you know, but then again, maybe that because that then it's too similar to money in the bank or something like, you know, but yeah, like other not though it made total sense that he was going to win if you looked at the line up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, yeah, you could out Seth went as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And obviously, obviously, retrospect he probably should have.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But it does feel like there's been a switch because between Seth, beating, brawn, clean, and again, I'm not complaining about that because, I mean, we got a cage match with a clean finish.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I'm not complaining about that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But between that and the way Austin theory was booked on Monday, sure feels like they're done with a vision.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like they, and at some point in the last week, they've just decided, yeah, you know what, we tried, it didn't work, we're done.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So open Brock is up in a hell and sell pretty fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, it should be cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You really have to forego the logic in getting there in order to appreciate it, which is how wrestling is a lot of times.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like people like don't like to build and then the match comes and they kind of forget about how bad it was.

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[SPEAKER_01]: A lot of the people just enjoy the match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: A lot of people don't even watch the TV and they just watch the paperview.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is an opportunity that I thought that we kind of already had on at WrestleMania, which is Oberwinning.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I imagine this is going to be the same thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then we, it looks like we'll have a I don't know, an eight month sprinter, where it's up, Augusto, September, October, November.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, eight month sprint to WrestleMania with Ober and you got to figure out how to

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[SPEAKER_00]: probably winning the Royal Rumble and then facing Roman Reigns at WrestleMania is kind of what it feels like.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that seems like the money match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, if you would have asked anybody on the WrestleMania Sunday in April, what would be your main event in a year from now?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that seemed obvious and they were, they were planting seeds.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, and then, you know, I don't know, you know, maybe, uh,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I probably cody and I mean punk and Seth and then maybe cody and Sammy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So what did you think about the segment with Roman and Seth?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Did that match feel hot?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Did it feel forced?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't think the promo segment was all that good because I thought it was kind of fake, but it's I didn't either.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would enjoy themselves.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah, you know, and I think we may be in the minority, but like I'm listening to a Seth just go on and on about how, you know, how he's got Roman's number and Roman just sitting there like, yeah, yeah, I guess you do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And to me, it almost felt like, yeah, okay, so Roman wants to win back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what this feud is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, you know, and it feels like, and then I looked it up because I think they can't be right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then it turns out, yeah, I mean, they've, they've wrestling each other nine times in singles matches over the years.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's,

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[SPEAKER_01]: 14 years so you know it's not it's not a new thing at all and they haven't wrestled in a few years but sets one five Romans one four and all of Romans wins a bit on TV so he's never beat him on paper view any time they've wrestled on paper going to singles match sets one

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, they've had a few multi-man matches and, you know, Romans 1, but I think the last time you brought up was Royal Rumble and Seth Beatom by DQ, but even that one was, you know, it's a competitive match and it was during a time when Roman wasn't losing, like it was right in the middle of his four-year title reign or whatever long it was.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it looked like at that time or we're probably setting up a mania match, but then you know that's 2022 right that's when they signed Cody so everything changed between the Royal and Vince left and then didn't and you know it does feel like.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, and and like I said, they've got, you know, a month and I mean, there are tickets, they've actually gone down in the last week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so I mean, I didn't have some tickets and they're like, no, we're going to let these things back on the market.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think they're going to get to like 40, although that feels optimistic there, like just under 24 right now, but.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, we're a month out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They've just announced matches.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, between matches being announced and probably reduced ticket prices.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They'll get, they'll get people in there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Minnesota's, it's, you know what the thing is, like if it's like Winnipeg and I imagine it is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Summer is a hard time to draw in this part of the country or the continent because a lot of people have summer places that they go because it's a dry heat where we are.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you go to the lake, you go to the old, you go somewhere and you just want to get out and you're not at, you know, you take time off in the summer and you go somewhere and if Minnesota's like that too, it may be hard to draw from the local place and summer times never really been

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, that could change, but it hasn't been two nights as tough, man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, yeah, and in hindsight, I always thought Royal Rumble, you could probably do it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because you have the main event matches and then you could also have the opposite sex world title match on, you know, on each show as well to just to kind of have that secondary.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Man, if you don't have them, if you don't have the hot stuff for summer slam, you're trying to sell out two stadiums, that's tough.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They did it was last year, they did it, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was, it was still kind of hot last year, so yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It worked last year, but I think that's an aberration.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, and I think maybe this is going to teach him a lesson, and you know, and maybe you just do it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're not good at learning from lessons, though, these days it seems.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, no, NXT, no, no.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Not so much, no.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Wait, by the way, how was the NXT show?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought it was good, not, you know what, it's funny.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was too long.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, and so like, you know, it's not always that, you know, it doesn't have to be five hours to be too long.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, when you're talking about a developmental,

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[SPEAKER_01]: If that's what it had been five matches, it would have been pretty darn good, but there were, you know, it was seven, and it was just a little too much.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, there was, well, there's at least three of those matches that really didn't belong on a PLE.

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[SPEAKER_01]: How's the Kendall Gray match?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was really good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I went in predicting that it was gonna be the women's match

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think most people would agree with me and say it was the Mercedes match, but I also think that when the star ratings come out, Dave may think it was.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm not looking forward to Friday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but, I mean, it was awesome.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like it was an awesome match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I gave it the same score, but I just thought, you know, if I had to pick between the two, I would go with the Mercedes match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But it was really good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think they were a little rushed because they had a hard out on that show and the match started with about 15 minutes left in the show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And there was also a commercial break.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, I, because I was watching on Netflix, I got to see the whole match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So people watching on CW probably maybe wouldn't have thought it was quite as good as I did because they would have missed two and a half minutes of it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But well, that match was good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the, you know, the Tony Dean, Barack O'Match was, was all right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The one that really impressed me was the, Zarya and Tatum Paxley.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That one was really good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Miles Born and Tatian Heights, I thought it was great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then I look cage match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Didn't even give it a good rating, but I just love that match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was like a lot of grappling.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like those two are amateur wrestlers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they just had like an amateur wrestling match, you know, and almost like a blood sportish kind of match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought it was really, really good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Where did they have that show from?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Was it at the, that was at the, at the, the PC?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, I mean, the crowd was hot-ish, but yeah, when you go from, you know, when you're going up against AW, that wasn't as bad as two years ago when, you know, they were going up against the show at Wembley, or was it last year?

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, it's last year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I get the stadium.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, yeah, that was bad.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This was a little better because I mean, the crowd in centers, they was hot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like at times they were really hot, but it wasn't like, you know, it wasn't like the stadium show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: How, and you watched TNA as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, TNA show was really good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I thought it was better than either the two WMB shows.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh wow.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, there was one match on it that was really, there was a worse match of saw a weekend, but other than that, the show was like a lot of the matches over delivered, they had a hot crowd, mic really well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They got over 3,000 people, which for them is a really good crowd.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was talking to Lance Storm and he said, like, you know, they, all the people were really happy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The, the first half hour that show was like my favorite half hour, the weekend of all everything I watched.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They had Cody Deener gave a speech for Joe Doreen, who had just passed away and it was really emotional.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Then they did a video package on the history of TNA and it was really awesome, just kind of going over all the people that've been in there and all the influence they had and everything.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then they did a for a seven way ultimate X match and amazing red was in the match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He didn't win.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But after the match, Frankie Gazearian put him over and then he said, you know, like, nobody knows this, but you're like the most influential guy in wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_01]: People have stolen your moves for 20 years.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All this stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then he's like, and you're going to take your rightful place in the TNA Hall of Fame.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then they did a video package for him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, so between that the all that stuff happened the first half hour and and I thought like that was all really, really good and then they had injury.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, and and they know got over really well to their crowd, which is always good because sometimes they're crowds if they're papered the people don't really react the way you want them to, but the people here seem like they were all into TNA so that was good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Honestly, I think what was missing from the AEW show was a little bit of pageantry.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like no, no Martha that kind of.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, Martha, and you know, I've been at shows where Martha was there and then I felt like, okay, like, why are we spending a half an hour doing this thing?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then you realize it's like, oh, because they don't want to go head up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You can see NBA Finals.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But the mystical entrance left me a little lacking.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, yeah, I wanted them to sit on that a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let that thing breathe.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so live it was the same as it came off on TV.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it was just they just had did their entrance and people didn't know the song right in the song.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they weren't really singing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I made a joke that when Edge came out is when people started finally singing me more, but they were singing Edge song.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that, I mean, and I skip that to be honest because it, it drives me nuts because it just, just doing Hulk open and Montreal, like, you know, with that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, yeah, there's a new arrow.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I love the song.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I, I did like a normally skip entries, but I wanted to hear that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then about 10 seconds in, it was like, oh, no, this is nothing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: now it wasn't that big of a deal they even show any of the fans so to me that tells me they couldn't find anybody saying in that I posted a video of the fans during that entrance in our discord okay during in that feed in our feed which yeah a lot of people were posting in that feed so did it for whatever reason I mean we we are not the example of of all a w fans at least that discord but

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It just felt like part of the thing in nothing special.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's too bad, but I mean it was I love that match though It was like probably my third favorite match on the show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They were trying to do some stuff that didn't really come together Which is probably the only thing that you could nip and I may have just not noticed that stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I really love it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: everyone get everyone makes fun of Dave for the box, but I'm I'm a huge box.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There was a there were some high risk stuff with a high reward that they just slipped up on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean those guys, you know, it's not like those guys work.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think Mystico is Mystico and a w is

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[SPEAKER_01]: And almost feels like a waste, like it's not like WWE and Sincar, like it's not like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's treated, I made this comment that he's not booked well in it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not, I didn't really mean it well, like, he's booked, like, well, he's booked strong, he doesn't lose and stuff, but it's just he's not treated as being special.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's doing their match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're not doing this match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And when he comes out, like, yeah, so he's treated as special, like he gets this

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[SPEAKER_01]: he's not promoted well, like what happens is he just gets thrown into these matches that have no juice behind them and and you know and you don't even find out about them half the time until like maybe the day of the show and I don't know if that's maybe his availability or what because he's wrestling all over the world like seven days a week and six countries like so you know maybe Tony's got to have them but Mexico seems to figure out a way to do it

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, you know, or maybe that's just that maybe it's just a strictly Mexico thing that is never going to translate to the US and that's fine if it is at least Tony's trying and where are you with swerve and aspirate on your match of the year rankings.

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[SPEAKER_01]: uh, I could tell you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I gave it five and a half stars.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so I mean, it's way up there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, you know, my number one is, and I'm going to be like the only person in the world that has it is number one, but it's like this, um, match from New Japan.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, you know, I got my list up here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh oh, you know what?

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, sorry.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I have a tie tied with three others with Americano and Americano.

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[SPEAKER_01]: uh... with shingo and calumnen from may force and uh... tai chi in a sheet against umano and uamura uh... it was from the july 19 show and i just freaking love that match reminded me of all those uh... all japan tag matches that they've given five stars two back in the nineties like i just don't have matches so great but uh... you know so i'd you know if i had to vote between the two it's going to be that are the american matching i you know i'm not sure which i would go with but they're both great

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I, there was too much blood in that match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I, I will say that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I, especially coming off the match before it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and I don't think it was necessary.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think it added to it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but, but other not like the story they told was incredible.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The action was unbelievable.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, they peaked at the exact right time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They ended.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I could have done without moxana's crew coming out at the end, but I guess it was part of the story.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So because, you know, will aspirated to turn into Hulk Ogan?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I, you know what, I'm like,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm Moxie's a friend of this site, so I don't really want to say anything negative about him, but if he disappeared for a while, I'd be okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I feel like he's got him on a run right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He, but he's all over these shows.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a problem.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I, I, I, you know, less of him would be better.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I think it's, I talked to LaRaca on a fight game and I said, I wonder how much influence in Moxie's character is Josh Barnett?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because if you think about the role that Josh

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[SPEAKER_00]: like he's kind of like that behind the scenes catches catch can mentor submission MMA fighter and I wonder if John channels a little bit of that and some of it is also

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, if he is really Tony's guy, like the guy that Tony can always depend on he just kind of has to be there right now I get what you're saying is, you know, sometimes in order to miss somebody they need to be gone and he's almost never gone not every show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe it's better for his mental health.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and then he just seems to be a life.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He just seems to be a life for him and and to be strict.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is a me thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not telling them how to book.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Don't get me wrong.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're telling you doing great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And sometimes when we go on these shows and we give our opinion and stuff people think, oh, we're trying to tell them how to do their job.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we're just giving our opinion on what we watched and what we think about it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you think he is more Mr. Miyagi or Terry Silver?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Our job is done.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think we're going to find out in the next month or so, which one he is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I think the strut and what you're alluding to is what we believe to be possibly at the next pay per view, which is Moxley and Will as Will's final test before he goes into his championship match with whomever is the champion at up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and I will, I can give them credit as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I mentioned this last week, but I mean, it was totally clear when they did that promo with Mark Brisco, they're totally trying to get you to think, oh, this is exactly what happened with Darby, is gonna happen again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like when you said that, then I noticed it with Darby in the next interview that he did.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then you got Mark Risco saying, I want my shot now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you got M.J. F probably wasn't watching.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So he's working his show up on Monday and on Wednesday and he's going to be like, what do you mean I got to defend the title?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll be hilarious.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But then he, I don't think he's losing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Going back to your moxie thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think the way to run that match in July is to run it straight is to run it as like kind of like

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[SPEAKER_00]: Apollo Creed at the end of Rocky 3, where he's like, you owe me a favor in Rocky's like, what favor?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it turns out that he wants one last sparring session with Rocky and it ends with them, like punching, you know, and then it pauses.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the punch and then the the

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[SPEAKER_00]: You beat me and I got to live live with that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I still think I'm better.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You think you're better and I even gave you Some of the things that that I kept near and dear to my heart because I wanted to help you, but

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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't give you everything.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I still have tricks up my sleeve.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so that that test at the end, I think is a really interesting way to tell that story.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now I don't think they'll be able to contain themselves with the idea of Moxley and the death writers turning against Will.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just hope it's not blatant.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I hope it's not Will being a dumbass.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I hope it's a little bit more mockery being frustrated because Will's got the upper hand and he needs a little something to get that upper hand.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's Daniel Garcia pulling Osprey's leg as he hits the rope and Osprey being like, what the F man, like I thought we were boys and then he's like, that's my guy like not you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I like you, but maybe Claudio gets involved and says, hey, that's not the way we do things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And maybe I was even thinking, you know what, I was really puzzled by that bandito match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the way Moxie was acting and he was like the biggest heel in the world in that match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then after the match, he wants to shake his hand.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But maybe Claudio is watching that match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Claudio is a guy that will put on his mask because he respects Lucia Libre.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then he sees his mentor, his sensei, ripping off the mask.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then if you saw him doing what he's you're talking about with Will, then maybe he's going to be like, hey, no, you know what, this isn't what we do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then to maybe there's a split in the deathwriters.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that would be bad for Claudia, though.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, Paul Heyman's on was putting him over these days.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if he's right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Or lately.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no, no, no, no.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But heyman, I think Heyman did an interview.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It may have been with Chris Van Fleet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't actually remember what was the original

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Paul Hayman was just putting him over like saying why he didn't work in WWE and stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, and try.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so we have to talk about it Mercedes against my world.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, the, I don't care.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I literally don't care if people thought that that was the greatest match in the world.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think Sean Ross Sapp said he thought it was the greatest women's match in AWS history.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, and, and so then, you know, people are coming at Dave and Dave's tweeting and I'm just like, just what, like, why are we tweeting?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, why are you like, like, let's just, you know, so somebody, I think somebody had said that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: that was the most that the live crowd was into a match was this match and Dave was like now like the opener, they were way more into the books and and mystical match, which they were if you were talking about consistent like consistent crowd noise they were and then in the main event

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[SPEAKER_00]: they were as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They were pretty into that cage match too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Or even the other cage match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's the goofy shit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god, there was so much goofy shit in that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I will tell you, when Kevin night, when that bag exploded and Kevin night fell off the cage and then Darby did a coffin drop like 20 seconds later, I screamed in terror.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, and I was watching on TV.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can't imagine what what that would have been like alive.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, is Kevin night alive?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: I haven't heard anything.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He was out there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He was out of that match a couple times for a long period of time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I mean, well, he wasn't on there after he fell off that cage.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I, you know, so this is so.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Here, here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I talked to Jeremy about this on our post show, but I'll mention it here shortly, and then we'll get your thoughts from the TV version of the match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was very clear live that the fans.

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[SPEAKER_00]: enjoyed the Maya story, they kind of understood the story, but I don't think they really wanted her to win.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Mercedes did such a great job keeping that thing together because a lesser wrestler, that match would have fallen apart completely.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Mercedes kept that thing together from whatever the frustrations that Maya was having, whether it's a third gear or whatever.

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[SPEAKER_00]: At some point, someone had, you know, JJ Williams, he was right next to us and he was like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: people are saying it could be a concussion like we don't we couldn't tell right because we're you know we're there but oh when she was like holding her head yeah yeah yeah and then I told um uh uh Ryan Howard from the F4W uh website he was doing the the live update on the show and we were going back and forth because he was like well what do you know anything you know it's wrong with her what's going on and I was like I

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[SPEAKER_00]: they're not telling us anything.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't know, but I'm hearing hair, I'm hearing possible concussion.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I couldn't really tell about the wardrobe piece.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that was that was new and that's not anything I knew.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But when she had to fix whatever the problem was and Mercedes had to kill time and Mercedes probably also had to

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, talk to her and say, hey, you know, don't worry about it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, we won't get this thing back going and then they continued to match because there were moments in that match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There was a spot in the corner and they tried it like two or three times and they couldn't get in and I was like, Oh, my gosh, just do something different.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I have to give them credit for going through the entire match because the best part of that match was when Mercedes has an submission and she's reaching for the ropes the crowd finally well you know finally like got into my the wrestler rather than just kind of like wanting to see Mercedes lose because Mercedes is really good at that kind of heat.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that was the moment where I was like, okay, they have the crowd for this one moment in this one spot and it's really brilliant and then Mercedes just one like very quickly after that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So from my perspective, I thought the crowd was very kind to Maya, but they knew that she wasn't.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, in that moment, maybe there were some people who were like, maybe she should win the right person won that match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would say, and the the thing that I want to give my credit for the match was the match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Some people really loved it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought it was like good like, you know, just good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The thing that I have to give her credit about and Tony can't talk about this in the press conference, because I did have to go to that press conference.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'll tell you a little bit about the post post press conference.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Kind of heard a little bit, but yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So they, Tony was talking about how, yeah, she just showed up since Natty.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think she was going to be there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that kind of kicked off everything.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This woman in dealing with one of, I don't know if it's the biggest tragedy for life,

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[SPEAKER_00]: she actually turned such a negative in her life into an amazing positive.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And she went out there and she had a credible wrestling match I would, I don't know her.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I bet you, if you asked her and she was being truthful, she probably would have hoped that none of those things that screwed up or that paused the match would have happened.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She would have hoped that they would have just had their clean match and not have that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I know some people were like, oh, well, sometimes, when things happen, that actually makes the drama better, I don't know about that in that match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But at the end of the day,

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[SPEAKER_00]: she has created an opportunity for herself that I hope that Tony Khan utilizes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's, she may not be next in line for the AW TNT TBS.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, TBS championship, but she's going to be at a higher level than she was before.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And maybe she's now in the mix as part of their crew and

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[SPEAKER_00]: I, I would rather see her than, and I'm not, I don't mean this to put sky blue down, but I watch sky blue against Michael and I thought, you know, sky blue's like a half a second behind everything, but I understand why sky blue's on television because she looks like goddamn rock star inside the ring

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I would put Maya, like, maybe even above that level, above Julia Hart, I would rather see Maya get opportunities than those other two women.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Could just because we've seen those other two women for so many years.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I want to commend Maya for that, because I thought that was just really amazing work on her end.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And hopefully she does get to grieve at the same time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because it's been a lot in the last few weeks for her.

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[SPEAKER_01]: different people grieving different ways.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, like maybe for her, you know, doing this helps her get through that process.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Did you live in the building?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Did you get to see the Athena promo?

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, we didn't.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, I mean, it seemed pretty clear from the Athena promo that Maya's going to win the ROH Women's title.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now that obviously is a step up from where she is now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I don't know that that does her I have a lot of good NAW, you know, so I think like what you're talking about, like we need to see her on a W more regularly, I will say that I've been watching my world for a long time since before she got signed.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And people were raven about her because people had even seen her before I saw her and I always said like okay like I just don't see it like there's there's there's not a lot there like she's okay in the ring I think she needs to work on her look and she's done that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: like so when you when you what I looked at her the first time I saw her to now she has a much more major league look and she's a much better wrestler.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So when you talk about most improved I hope people think about her when they're voting in the air end awards because I mean she went from literally nothing to being in one third of the triple main event on you know on a paper view.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Which is pretty incredible and she had like what some people are calling the best women's match in A to be history I wouldn't say that but I mean it was probably the best women's match of the year in a W. I think I'd be fairly in my opinion Would be fairly safe and saying that now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a fairly low bar You know, I told I gave to make sure he watches it on TV just yeah He's well make sure he sees what I thought people who are gonna be complaining about his ratings

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought the Tecla match earlier was the best match on a W television or a paper view that didn't involve Mercedes prior to that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, but then Mercedes is on another level.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the other thing is Mercedes is an MVP.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I don't think she's gonna win the Luzez Award, but she is the MVP of that, one of the MVP's of that company and definitely the MVP of their women's division.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, mm-hmm.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and yeah, you were question came in the clutch man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They needed her and she's there to be who she is like they still don't think that I still think she was always going to be in this world title match at all it now maybe she wasn't going to win the Owen, but she was going to get in that match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: possible was she had to like I mean if she wasn't then I Tony's stupid and Tony's not stupid so you know and and I think I think what's gonna happen now is did you see the willow video package oh we didn't live okay willow is I think willow's beaten tackle for that title at redemption that's that's the impression I have and then we're gonna get willow and Mercedes at all and tackle feels hot though man

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[SPEAKER_01]: And she does, she does, but like maybe Techlet's gonna wrestle somebody from startup on that show, maybe wrestling for the start of title, who knows.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe maybe she gets, oh, caught in there and strips him down, that was, that was, seems he seems to be enjoying these beatings.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I, and I love that post-match angle that she did, like with taking off Starlight Kids, she said she was gonna do it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She came into the press conference wearing Starlight Kids mask and,

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[SPEAKER_00]: doing fake Japanese little girl voice at the same time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, if you put that mask on after she spit it, that's kind of gross.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe she cleaned it off first.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, maybe.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I know I think she's great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, I mean, if it is her and Mercedes, that's fine, too, because anybody worried about it being a heel versus heel, I mean,

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[SPEAKER_00]: I heard that crowd in Mercedes was a cool no big no bigger heel in that presser than Mercedes man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She was calling all the the press idiots and are you stupid or you dumb?

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're all marks like it was.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And in the crowd, I mean 70% of the crowd were chanting CEO.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, it doesn't matter.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, you know, she can wrestle Tecla at Wembley and the crowd is going to be probably 100% behind her.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, let's end with this, which is Kenny Omega and Zach Saber Jr.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I said to you live, who's my second favorite match of the show, and it was also the second match on the show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So from an important standpoint, it wasn't there to be one of the main events.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't there to be the hottest thing coming out of the show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was more there to just have

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[SPEAKER_00]: really, really good wrestling and those first hour and a half to hours of the show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you did not like it as much as I did.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I thought it was a very good match, like, you know, technically and obviously technically, Zach Saber Jr. Kenny Omega is one of the best, but it just felt like they were, you know, they were going out there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're going to have a good match and they did very good match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, one of the better matches on the show, but just it just didn't

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[SPEAKER_01]: and it just felt to me like they were just having a match to have a match and it was to get Kenny a win.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I kind of likened it to, I was sitting there watching like number one, it was really long.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like just thinking like this reminds me of when somebody tells me that a movie is like, oh my god, you got to see this movie.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's so great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then I go watch the movie and

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm watching it and it's like, yeah, it's good, you know, I like these actors.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're doing a very good performance, but I just the story of this movie isn't just doing it for me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Wait, did you did you see one battle after another?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I love that movie.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, but I'm, I think I'm talking about sinners.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but no, like the first 45 minutes of sinners.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I actually and I know you love that part of movie, but yeah, I like that part more than yeah, but once that one stat part was over and they got into the rest of it then I was really into it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, sometimes you just not in the right mindset, but but it actually reminded me of there's another movie that I always bring up is

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh God, it's this war movie and it just had this incredible cast and I just hated it and I went to see what my buddy and we watched it and we were both just bored out of our trees and then we left and then my buddies like I wanted to leave like a half hour in and I was like me too and then they're one of us did but we both wish we had of but yeah, it's in red line that's the name of the movie.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but yeah, so I mean, it's not it wasn't in red line.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I liked it a lot better than that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But um, yeah, just to me, it just I didn't feel it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was the same way with me with that Brian Daniels and match that Zach had a few years ago.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe it's just.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, just vocally he knew when to get the crowd pissed off at him and knew how to utilize how much they love Kenny maybe I was missing that was second match right like how important can you really be when your second match after.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that might have been part of it for me because to me, that was one of the matches I was most looking forward to on the whole show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, from the second it was announced.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, oh, wow, this is a big match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I get it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm a New Japan fan.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I understand how important and big this match is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then I saw Tani out there doing promos like eating carrot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then, you know, like, I won't say he wrestled like that because he didn't.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He, I'm not saying he wrestled like he didn't care, but there was no storyline in this match other than, you know, hey, we're two of the best wrestlers in the world.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to think that's a good story.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm not sure that they're telling the story perfectly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think the story is as like, can he's unsure?

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's unsure if he's still the man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he has to prove it to himself in these matches that he can still do it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: In the ring, I think we have killer Kenny on the mic.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not sure what version of Kenny we have.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, well, well, hopefully we'll get to see it if he's wrestling mjf on at redemption because, you know, like, he's literally got to dial up the promos on Wednesday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and I don't even know how he does that, but I guess he'll have to figure out a way because if he's going to, and if, especially if he's going to be headlining Wembley against Will, unless Tony's idea is just going to be, hey, these are the two best wrestlers in the world, and they're going to have the match for the century.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Did he sell his stomach in this match?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't see it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't see it either.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just, I just didn't know if maybe because I was watching live, I didn't see it, but yeah, no.

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[SPEAKER_01]: In fact, like they were more,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, it was arms shoulder.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I did not like the MMA spots in that match, but I did like the MMA spot in the moxie match because that was logical MMA the way that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I just didn't with the moxie thing was like I couldn't understand like all of a sudden he's and then the announcers are like, oh, he's the worst.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They literally said he's the worst human being on the planet and then a couple hours later, oh, he's such a great mentor.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's got to be hard for them though.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because I don't think they know So I'll just tell you this I did we had a little post scrum with TK and it's just me Jeremy Dave and Mita and

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was like just Tony, you know, just Tony being a being a dude like just being a normal human, which was really cool, you know, for somebody who is that rich I guess and is running a company to be able to be a normal dude is is a pretty cool trait to his personality and I did ask him if David Ellison was a real wrestling fan and he said he believed so he said it believes that he was in a Monday night war fan for back in the day.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll never with Tony.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know he's a normal guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, he's a normal wrestling guy because when we, the first conversation we ever had online, I've never met him in person, but was when I made a comment about Ricky Starks and he commented back, like, he asked me in a DM, like, oh, what was the problem with, like, what didn't you like about it?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, you know, I thought he did a really good job and I explained it and he's like,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, okay, that's, you know, I appreciate what you're saying and you know, and you know, and he's like, I think he's going to do really well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, yeah, I'm not saying he's not going to, I just didn't have a really good first impression is for some ever saw him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so we had this conversation and it wasn't adversarial.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He was just really surprised that my take and I was really surprised that this billionaire saw my message and help the need to DM me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I call you a mark and then.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, no, just he's.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that's Joey Janellisar.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm really surprised you would say that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, oh, I'm really surprised you give a shit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I didn't say that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, so hopefully you guys get some good stuff on Wednesday.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sometimes when I have these papers, it's really about who's not hurt.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So hopefully that, yeah, well, I don't even know what's on the show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was in brisco and M.J.F.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, there was, there was one other match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They set up last week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, this is a sickly Jericho and Champa is the following.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we at Beach Blast or whatever, call that show, but no, there's six way, which I expect is going to survival of the fittest.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's going to be awful that much, but hopefully there's some good ideas, but yeah, I think I think she's going to win the title.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know a lot of people think your your girl queen is going to win it, but I'm pretty sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's what they will probably use Queen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm a not as part of the heat for sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, but yeah, so I mean it might be a little surprised now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I hope it surprises me, but first we're going to have Jeff will be great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You and Jeff will be back live a couple of minutes after the show ends.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, for people listening to this and are actually people watching this will be later today.

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[SPEAKER_00]: People listening to this probably later today as well, but there will be an opportunity to listen to this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we'll have our paper view thoughts as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know Jeff has some questions about Auspray.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'll try to answer them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, that is it from here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: For Paul MWG, we will see you when we see you piece out.