SHAQ WRESTLES! & JADE CARGILL DEBUTS at AEW Crossroads 2021 | The Dynamite Show (Rewind)

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[SPEAKER_02]: Dino Ma!

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[SPEAKER_00]: Everybody's a dynamite show, Paul Fontaine, Jeff Hawkins, actually dynamite show rewind.

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[SPEAKER_00]: here on the fight game media, YouTube channel, as well as people listening on a fight game media free audio feed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And just the note for you watching on video, if you're chatting, we're not ignoring you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This show is being recorded at an earlier date and being broadcast on Sunday.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we won't see your chat, but you guys can talk amongst yourselves as you hopefully watch the show and comment.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right, hold on, hold on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, a job.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, Fernando, the show was fire.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Actually, the honest with you, if Fernando goes in back and watch is like 2020 shows rate before he comes back or 2021 and comes back and watches 2025 shows, I completely understand how every show is fire now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: wasn't really fire.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Although there was some, there's some cool stuff in it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: First hour was good and then we got to the wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We got to like a WDARC.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And man, did you see the dark results that went on the screen?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my god.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I missed them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, there, there was like 13, I'm not gonna bother reading them, but there's like 13 matches and oh my god.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like basically everybody you saw in the crowd was in one of those matches.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that was that's something we'll get into.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but yeah, oh, just overall, Jeff, um, we originally picked this show, I think, because of totally blanched wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then we, we didn't realize it was the same show as Jade Cargill's debut, as well as Shaq wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously, in the same match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it was also the Go Home Show for Revolution.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, there's something that I don't, I don't if you know, I think I had mentioned that this might have been the first dynamite show that me and Parker had done, but I don't think it was the first, but it was one of the first, okay, and at the time, the dynamite show was on a patreon.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you had to pay a monthly subscription fee in order to listen to it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I can't remember.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was maybe 10 bucks and there was not just the dynamite show, but you got like, well, basically almost like all the network and at the time we had the they'm a main show, we had the boxing show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We had a strong style show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Which is the one Jeremy Steven do now, but it was at the time I think it was J.D.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Aliva and somebody else We had I don't know if the J.D.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and Mike show was on there actually no they weren't on the patreon There's a few shows that weren't on the patreon the rap wasn't on the patreon.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So anyways, point being I had a gimmick going because this show had the paper view had the exploding barbed wire death match

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it was John boxing, Kenny Omega, and they had had that lights out match about a year and a half earlier, and I said, I'm never watching a paper view of the match like that again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So when this came up, I'm like, we started the dynamite showing I'm like, yeah, you know, I'm just full little I'm not watching revolution.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not watching revolution.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Then I came up with a gimmick.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it was on this show or it might have been the previous show, if we can get five new Patreon subscriptions, I will buy the show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we ended up getting eight, and they had to be people that would order and then send care to message, I joined the patron because I want to force Paul to watch the barbed wire death match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so it worked.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was promotion.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'll be honest with you, I was not going to get revolution.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it wasn't just because of that barbed wire, death match, that show looked awful.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't watch, like, I didn't go back to look and see how well it was received and everything.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Everybody remembers the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But the lineup.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, my God.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, we'll get into it when as we go over this show, but that, that was a bad lineup on paper.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, don't you think?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, revolution was four or four in the hierarchy at the time, too, I believe, because I believe everybody thought that full gear was a little bit more important due to being on the West Coast.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, technically the thing, I can't remember the line up right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just, well, I didn't, like, I couldn't tell you it right now, but I just, as I was watching this show and listening to them preview the matches.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, really?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Really?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, that's a preview.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The selling, you can't give in the people who are in the face of the revolution, match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the women's title match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my god.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And this is a point.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Remember correctly was the Barbara death match as well as what is Tony cons big surprise going to be or big shows big surprise going to be.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right, a Hall of Fame level talent that has chosen to sign with a W and it's not who you think it is and I can remember who we were supposed to think it was I'm thinking maybe Goldberg, but I don't know, I know who it was.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you remember who it was?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Was it Mark Henry, I think it was Christian.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, yeah, let me look because I think he was in the face of the revolution.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I pulled up the card here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think we all thought Christian was going to sign with me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, he wasn't in the face of the revolution ladder match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll tell you that whoever it was because there's one name.

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[SPEAKER_00]: in this that wasn't promoted and it's a guy that's in in WWE right now and it ain't Christian obviously because he's not in WWE.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it was Christian but I really don't know because he wasn't on the show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll Google it later and figure it out but I think it was Christian and I think the whole point was that people were let down by that and what they didn't realize was

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[SPEAKER_00]: I guess in his mind, Christian was a whole thing, levels talent and maybe he is, I don't know, I wouldn't go for him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, he's a fine hand entertaining guy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, like, fine hand is bad.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, we saw one of the fine hands on this show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: John Skyler was a Jason Hodge.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I can never, never remember which one of those two is which.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Was it Hodge?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Remember?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Where in the squash match against Pock and Phoenix?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, I think it was a scholar scholar.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, then Hatch was on the dark tapings.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he's one of the names.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, yeah, so I mean, as I'm watching the show, like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: There are people that would come out and I was like, oh, wow, they were already in the NAW or they were still in NAW.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I was just baffled by this timeframe.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like there's a lot of people on the show that I, you know, I just kind of like, this is like five years ago almost and and again, we play this game like the last time when we said, oh, who's better off and everything and

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[SPEAKER_00]: God, like there's so many people on the show that you thought we're going to be something and they sure is how hard now it appears you are correct though is okay Christian cage okay yeah and it went over like a fart and church if I'm I remember thinking well this is like TNA like now at this point like if they're bringing in Christian cage

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[SPEAKER_01]: you know he's he's done some entertainment tell me now he's been fine it's just the thing was I think Tony originally brought him into be a huge baby face superstar and found out that he's naturally a heal

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, okay, so you don't think he was always going to be a heal.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, because he's because there's Tony cons favorite wrestler right and he was brought in and was supposed to mentor the drask express and and he teamed with them for like a year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think I seem to recall a match they did on a paper view where it was like he basically replaced Marco stunt, which is an upgrade to say the least and it was I think it was them three against the bucks and

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't remember who the third one wasn't that match, but it was, I think Dave Melchuk gave it five stars.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I remember watching it and it was like, that was maybe four.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was on a paper view and it was like, you know, at that point.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it had to be Hangman or Omega probably.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, that could have been, it could have been Hangman.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was the one we were going, did you notice when Hangman comes out for the main event, they pointed out,

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[SPEAKER_00]: he had just entered the top five for the first time in over a year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What the hell?

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[SPEAKER_00]: In my mind, hangman's been at the top of the card like since this company started, but apparently not.

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[SPEAKER_00]: rankings.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Who remembers those?

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[SPEAKER_00]: A lot of people.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Actually, they came up this week when, you know, like they, we were, um, what cause Hulk is in a number one contenders match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: As we as we record this, we're recording it before dynamite.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So what,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Why is hooking a number one contender's my wife, so he can lose, I mean, that's the reason, I mean, you know, I mean, he's he's got this super long undefeated streak.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, they're at least a playing off that like I don't people think I'm like defending this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's stupid to have the title and okay, so you've got the four guys in it are Joe who just lost a world title match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: uh you got Bobby Lashley who just lost a six man title match you've got uh Ricochet who just lost to Lashley and uh hook who has got on a big winning streak but nobody buys as an legitimate contender and Joe is going to choke out hook spoiler alert that's the finish.

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[SPEAKER_00]: While probably while Bobby Lashley is in a rumble of tables because Gates of Agony put him through and Ricochet's laughing instead of paying attention in the match and as Joe's choking on hook, that's my prediction for the finish.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not a spoiler and maybe it's wrong but pretty sure that's what the finish is going to be.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But we'll get to this show and yeah, so

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[SPEAKER_00]: Jeff, you're overall thoughts.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, we kind of talked about it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Again, for the reasons we watch the two matches, what we'll kind of run down the card quickly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're not going to do it is in depth as we normally do for dynamite because there's a few talking points I want to get to.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But overall, like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: What kind of like memories did you have of the time or did it bring back anything that you'd forgotten about or anything like that or was it just like a show when I when I watched it this time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was apparent to me that Tony doesn't like the things that make pro wrestling pro wrestling so he shoved them all on that first hour.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, and then and then he said this second hour, this is where the work rate kicks in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, all the three big things on that first hour of this show, if this were just a one-hour show of dynamite, could have been the central focus of three different weeks and it felt like and and even J.R. and Tony are kind of like going, wow, this is a lot of show right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I agree with them because it's one of those things where Shaq's debut should be special.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Telly Blanchard's Mansion be special in that press conference thing should be quote unquote special and none of them are memorable because they're all three back to back to back to back almost.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like, you just watch matching between, but yeah, but you don't remember that for the most part, uh, Pock and Phoenix.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, the whole time I'm watching, I watch that match and then I'm the rest of the show I'm watching.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sorry, I'll let you get through it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And if the what the hell is the point, like, why didn't we even have that match?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I realized at the very end they had the schmaws where 800 people ran in and apparently all these people were

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[SPEAKER_00]: They didn't identify anybody and these all these teams were in this battle royal and I guess it's just a crap about that battle royal and this is a go home show for your pay per view.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It should be ending on something Omega and Moxley related and it's not who weren't even on the show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Correct.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Omega was not on there at all.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Moxley was briefly in a video package to promote the match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They did have like that video package was good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, they had Anita, you know, talking about the exploding barbed death match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, so he's kind of endorsing Moxley and Omega, but it was a go home show for a paper league.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Where were they?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and it was such a lame finish because that thing with the Battle Royale, it's like, where are these guys all coming out fighting?

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's no reason to do it right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're just doing it because there's a battle royale at the end.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But my personal memory of this show was being on cloud nine, seeing Tully Blancher get a win after 32 years.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I didn't care about the rest of their show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was happy about the little mini horsemen reunion.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and being able to finally get some closure in my wrestling life.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, yeah, I mean, I was happy with the show because of that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was also very impressed with the...

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was impressed with the Pump Shacktook.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was impressed with the way they explained it away.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, and especially since, so they did that bump with shock and everybody remembers, I forgot about the bump and how great it was, but and but everyone remembers shock being loaded into the ambulance, I didn't remember how stupid it came off like where they immediately open the door and he's disappeared.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And nobody knows what happened and, oh, we'll get an update, which we never did ever to this day, and I believe it's a different ambulance, too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I believe they didn't even bother to get to.

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[SPEAKER_00]: To have the same ambulances and the reason that was given, I think eventually it came out was just something shack wanted to do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, so tell him no, my creative control for our celebrity and the problem with this is just the week before they had done an angle where someone got hauled away in an ambulance.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it was pop a buck and it was building to the tag team title match, which was a good thing to do to build to that match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But the funny thing is, they couldn't even show highlights of it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They showed us still photos of the angle from the week before.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like it was 1995 and you had to order the dynamite replay in order to see this angle again.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I have an idea.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to disappear.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You want to watch?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, just peer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Put me in the ambulance.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Go disappear.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're seven foot four.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I won't disappear.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I won't disappear.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I like magic.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you're going to make me bump through a table, I'm going to disappear.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Actually, that's the deal.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If I go through a table, I get to disappear out of an ambulance.

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[SPEAKER_00]: 20.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we'll never mention it again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, you know, uh, I don't know if they ever if brought it up on uh, no, he said, I think I think I think I don't think so.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Actually, I could be a period like in a crowd or something.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He will now because they're on NBC, but um, actually, are they?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he'll be he'll be back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: um probably with Cody and Jade at some point um red velvet should have got more of this than she did yes yeah that that actually is the my one big take a look Jade

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[SPEAKER_01]: came off impressive and they put it over big, but red velvet was the star of this match for a while and and the build when she came out to take over for Brandy you I believe had just gotten pregnant.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah because they they originally kind of announced this in November and I think they were going to do it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Probably on the New Year's show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and then Brandy got pregnant so they took a couple more months and shock was in super good shape, too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's say that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like he wasn't moving great or at all, but I mean, he looked good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but Shack shouldn't have been the heel.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's the big thing here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's acting like a heel and he just wanted to go in there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and play around and do his Oli shuffle.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, he got to chop the chuts are impressive because he's a big dude with a big hand.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But Red Velvet, I thought there was something to her.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, on this debut and then she gets beat.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, yeah, and it wasn't the debut for her.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think no, no, she had she had I think she had one other match or that's it on dynamite.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, she had had matches on dark.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, elevation, elevation and starting up a dark mark.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was like one of those things where she hadn't gotten a win or anything.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Gotcha.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: People are questioning why she in there and stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She had attitude and I liked it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I she had personality to me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's yeah, Cody was Cody.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he didn't do much.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Couldn't really do much because Shaq couldn't do much, but they did what they needed to do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and Jay got the pin.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that was, you know, that was good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And there was like a lot of fans.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like they this was high to COVID.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they, you know, you had the wrestlers around ring side.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then you couldn't really see the crowd every once in a while.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They would cut to them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But apparently I looked at the observer and they had opened up more seats for this show than they normally had.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think you'd have like two to a row on one side and two to a row like one row back on another side and stuff like that well they got a thousand it was a little more than that because even full they only get like maybe 35 so you know but they made a lot of noise for this match and then it feels like either they left or they didn't care because at the end of the show they weren't making much noise.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, you know, like I think all those people came to see this and maybe stuck around for the drastically and this should have been the opener.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sorry.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It should not have been the opener.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And shock me that it was.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and how are you going to top this the freak show fight with the big celebrity?

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[SPEAKER_00]: How are you going to top this?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, the main event, of course, Adam Page and John Silver against Mark Quinn and Matt Hardy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was the main event of the show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I believe it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like that is like that is a W dark mid-carb that not match right there

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but Tony thought of Matt Hardy is a big superstar.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he was trying to court Jeff at the time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, big money mat, which I had somehow managed to forget.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And, uh, oh my god, they're party family office.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't know if that had started yet because they had because they had the grant, I think they had the graphic up on the screen when they came out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because it was on drawing there yet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no, no.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I'm drawing a bot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The Hardy family office got you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, and then he mean renamed it the Andrade family office.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was the the Hardy family office.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was huge.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you had butcher bunny, uh, blade, uh, Helico Jack Evans private party.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Jack Evans got his pay off.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you notice that?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I love the Jack 4200 on the $4200 wasn't a check.

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[SPEAKER_00]: wasn't a bag of cash.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was a piece of green cardboard with $4,200 written on it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I got to know if this is like a token that you go on later, cash in for William McKinley's on the $4,200 bill.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now Tony cons given away like a half a million dollars for random tag team matches, but back then $4,200 for a run-in to help Max Caster beat 10.

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[SPEAKER_00]: on a. W. Dynamites.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, and they're not even the worst part of this match, the worst part of Scorpio sky had absolutely nothing to say on commentary.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he was the one that ended up winning that face of the boots and laughter match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Did he have a large one at all?

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, Ethan Page was the surprise.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And at the time, people were like, he's this time, he can't surprise Ethan Page.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And no, it wasn't.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It ended up being Christian Cage.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think Mark Henry was a leader.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then Tony Con learned from his announcement because when Mark Henry would came in it was just it was just like a like a surprise an actual surprise like it wasn't a surprise that he hiked because people were really upset that he hiked a surprise ended up being Christian cage.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and Henry was only brought in for commentary right he wasn't brought in to compete correct I mean commentary and you know I think I think it was trying he was trying yeah he was he was going to coach.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, which, who is coaching these days on and QT and Dustin?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Anybody?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think there's might be some people.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, you know who is?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Ortiz.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Just came out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that's right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We didn't mention Austin and Colton Gunn, who were in the audience, they got involved in this match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They attacked Shaq with chairs, I think he noticed it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and yeah, so the, oh, that's right because they were part of the nightmare factory with QT and what, that the baby faces are interfering against the heel.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, yes, and I mean, it was so obvious that those guys were heels.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, um, the star of the wrestlers at Rankside, I think I pointed this out at the time and I could not take my eyes off her was that kind of king like I knew you're going to say that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think she's getting ready to come back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She's been posting pictures and she looks good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so hopefully we're going to see her again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think last scene in TNA, I don't know if she's still in a contract to them, but.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She's been off for a long time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She had complications with her recovery.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's, so we had that question about revolution before we move on to the rest of the card.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we had the, we had the Miro promo on here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is this the match where stat lander appears in like the, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no

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[SPEAKER_00]: Miro and Penelope against NAPI.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, against Taylor, Cassidy and maybe Chuck.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but no, that wasn't the same match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, God.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just looking at this paper view.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Look.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, so we had, we had that chat stuff, we had this, the crap with the ambulance, then we had the squash match that we talked about.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it was Palken-Rain Phoenix against John Skyler and D3, I don't even think D3 got in the ring.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, and it was just, you know, it was a quick win.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The guys looked amazing, like they should have been tag team champions, and then

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[SPEAKER_00]: We never saw them again for the rest of the show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't even, again, I didn't even know why we saw them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We saw them in the battle royal right at the very end.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what I figured out why they were doing this match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Until then, I had no idea.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They never mentioned the battle royal on the paper view during this match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We just, oh, okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: These guys are teeming.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, they were two thirds of the death triangle.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it made sense that they were teeming.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Then we get the inner circle press conference and I, you know, I kind of remembered this for one reason and what I didn't remember was that it started out and it's a W so you have to have production issues the first guy comes out and he talks in the microphone, you can't hear word he says.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right, and then they repeat the question.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's Robbie Fox of bar stool sports.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, so you actually watched from bars though.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, because yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, Cerecos said he was from bar stool and then two day two people later.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Someone else was from bar stool is the guy from bar stool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, AEW was courting bar stool hard.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I try and get pub off of it because bar stool was the cool sports site.

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[SPEAKER_01]: they're still kind of a rebel unit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They hadn't really got a lot of the venture seed capital.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, this is Robby Fox, so I still follow on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I didn't recognize any of these people, including Conrad Thompson who showed up and he was just there so that M.J.F.

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[SPEAKER_00]: could make fun of them and called turkey tits.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they, you know, they talked about the box angle from the week before sent minorities were there and they made fun of them and, you know, so you got the sense they were building, I guess mjf and Jericho were going to be challenging for the tag team titles, but you kind of almost got the impression that the real feud was.

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[SPEAKER_00]: proud and powerful or sent in our teasing answer bucks, although I don't think that ever actually happened because as we would find out over the years, all of these Chris Jericho vehicles are about getting Chris Jericho over and not really about getting the people he's with over.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What are you saying the Jericho vortex is real?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, kind of maybe.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then the last person to come in was a gentleman by the name of Eric B. from the 83 weeks podcast who some people may recognize as Eric Bischoff, who it now makes a living off of making fresh and anything and everything.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think this is not the only time you appeared on a W television.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I assume he got paid and yeah, so he comes out and the whole deal was, you know, him and Jericho had this long history from being in WCW together and he asked a question about the box and then that ended up, you know, the end result of this was met and Nick coming out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they kind of promos, you know, pretty good promo, MJF made fun of Nick's hair, which is kind of ironic given MJF's issues that he was later on have with hair, but to be fair, like, yeah, there is something going on with Nick's hair.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what it is, but I'm a theory and I don't know if it's real or not.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I figure it's one of those things where, you know, Bishop was kind of high on AEW for a short time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he does this thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then he just starts trashing them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think he was expecting a job.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I can't prove that, but shortly thereafter, you started appearing more and more on WWF on like these WWE on these reunion shows and homecoming shows and all the announcements and stuff like that, I think he wanted a job he didn't get, and so he went to WWE and goes, hey, they're not going to pay me, would you pay me to keep me on a retainer or whatever and so they did.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And to trash them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, God.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's the bonus.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you pay me, I'll trash them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a throw in.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, I didn't end up with a brawl, a bunch of people out there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I couldn't even make out who they all were.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you almost had to pause to see, because they didn't tell you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But the brand and color was there and Don Gallo's Carla Anderson.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So they were still around or were against.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They called them these two goofs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then later go, oh, they're the T.A.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because they were working with TNA kind of at the time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, actually not kind of they were because Sammy Govara wasn't going to make it went over there and became champion for a right and Sammy Govara who they pointed out wasn't here and Jericho I guess they were pretending they were feuding and it turned out to be a swarve, but he the reason he wasn't there was because he had been asked to go to TNA to do some work and he turned them down

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's like, I'm not going there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I remember that because it gave the booking plans and he said, no, thanks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that doesn't work for me, brother.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, and so, you know, and then so you ended up back in a W, and that's, I think that's kind of when things started to go sideways with him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the, and the angle was because wasn't it because he, he surrendered to blood and guts?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think so, but blood and guts hadn't even happened yet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Had it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Or maybe I'm wrong on that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm possibly wrong on that my time not sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think it happened in I think it happened at double or nothing twenty twenty one he lost a match or something like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because I don't want to speak to you anymore.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and then he disappeared by the end of coming back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so they did the video package with with O'Nita and and Moxley.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think like Omega and Calis were kind of in it, but it was more like highlights that didn't actually say anything specifically for them thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was really odd and again it was Omega was the champion and I didn't even like it was a while into the show before I even figured out that Omega was the champion.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's time because yeah, this was when he was doing his heel pretending to be.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, flaky champ and he is basically I think it's basically trying to do what he thinks an impression of Rick Flair was

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and moxley was kind of like, I call him Dean moxley here, he was still transitioning from Dean Ambrose into John moxley didn't quite have the moxley character down, but they need to do more with that with with the callous in the workshop thing, they yeah, oh yeah, that's

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right, they showed that was where they showed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So Kenny Omega was building the equipment that they were going to use for the exploding barbed wire death match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's reminded people of that angle.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They did in the 90s with the undertaker building a casket.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, it was that, you know, my God.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So some of this stuff was not great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Although I imagine some people like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So then we got the match and it was the best wrestling match on the show and probably one of the better TV matches that year, honestly, because, you know, we didn't get these like, you know, four and a half, five star matches every week back then.

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[SPEAKER_00]: FTR and Tully Blanchard against the Jurassic Express of Luchessor's jungle boy and Marco Stunt.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And, uh, Tully Blanchard was out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was his first match on national television in 32 years.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So this is twenty twenty twenty one twenty one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So his last match was in WWF at the brain busters because he made.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He got fired for survivor series.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he did some stuff with ECW with but again, that wasn't not.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he did.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He did some stuff in the mid-Atlantic region for some smaller promotions.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think he did he did some Pan too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He went over to Stanton, either New Japan or Alder Pan, I can't remember which.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think he was in the he'd been put in the WWE Hall of Fame by this point.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, he was only in there with the horsemen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was during Rick Flair's retirement run.

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[SPEAKER_01]: right and and it was wind them they put in and not blanched right it was win the way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way okay hold on when you say he was in the hall of fame at this point do you mean I meant that I mean during you mean during dynamite not during when he was already fired or whatever

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, when it was an ECW, no, yeah, no, they put the, they put the wind them horsemen in there, but it was, it was flair on Tully and Barry because only had been offered any sentence, you know, he was so, so Tully was in the Hall of Fame then.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, yes, he was.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sorry, but I was getting two things mixed up there, but he was there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They had been teasing back in the WCW days for years.

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[SPEAKER_01]: that that telly was coming back like he did an entire paper view angle with for a horseman reunion and then they lowball telly on the offer and this is right before this is right before he did ECW but he had also appeared on slamboree 90

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[SPEAKER_01]: four ninety five.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we talked we talked about that last week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the funk match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But that's paper.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That doesn't count as national TV.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he didn't do any TV.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He did legends or wrestling against Stan Lane.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was the best thing on the card does that card.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Also not on national television.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it was yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean he looked.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean for a seven year old guy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Country club country club shape.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's that I think that's how his daughter referred to it as.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But God bless, and he's still a manager, so he has to show up with something that this butterfly collar with the, with the.

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[SPEAKER_01]: uh... with the initials on the side is ridiculous with that robe it just looks so stupid but he's a manager he's a he he learned from the master JJ doing this JJ but always do you remember when he was doing the war games he wore something like that yeah butterfly collard with like the blue and red it looked almost exactly like that he brought up JJ he was also in the corner

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[SPEAKER_00]: for he was in the corner of after the match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, okay, I noticed aren't there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, they also actually are had the had aren't in Tully's tag team titles.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and Tully was out with the.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and the Black Ruby War at at StarK 85, which was the Magnum match, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, so they had, you know, they had a good match and the end part came when Jungle Boy did a tope on a mask man who was pretending to be a cameraman, which actually works because the way that if you notice like a lot of the EW production people, they

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[SPEAKER_00]: dress in black from head to toe a lot of times.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, you didn't necessarily realize this was a plant and it turns out it was Sean Spears and then Spears, Blanchard.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, yeah, so what happened here?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, the Mathsman hit luchesaurus with his camera, Harwood and Wheeler picked up luchesaurus, went for a pile driver, Blanchard went, jumped off the middle rope,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then they all celebrated.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's yeah, that's when our Anderson came up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Everybody held up for fingers and I believe this was after the Sean Spears had Tully's picture on his tights that one time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you remember that word where you got like stripped down at the end of having his face on his crotch or something and right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But this was this was

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[SPEAKER_01]: uh, the pinnacle.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think so.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We were eventually, well, because they, yeah, because they eventually added mgf when he was on Jericho.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just, FTR gets a win here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Jurassic Express lost and we got a paper view on Sunday.

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[SPEAKER_00]: FDR was not on the paper view.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Jurassic Express was in the battle royal and it out making it all the way to the end when jungle boy got eliminated by reef Phoenix.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So not exactly sure what the point of doing this was, but to make FDR happy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I believe they had only been in the company like less than a year at this point.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but why aren't they in the paper view.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know God.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to go over this revolution card, but you wouldn't believe the teams that were in this family, I saw them and I went, oh my god, I didn't even wreck like I'm looking at it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's no way I could tell you who even half the teams were as I'm watching it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I believe they were both in it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're the first ones in there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The bears.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There was a couple different dark order teams to the natural nightmares.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Pretty picture.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Which was saves our bannoni and Peter Avalon.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh good lord.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The varsity blondes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so yeah, and then bunch of teams, you know, put Trump played and think put sure has the AW record for most eliminations in Battle Royals.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's something I always mention whatever they do one of these.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Then we got the Paul White interview with Tony Shavani and his new nickname is no more BS.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think this might have been his debut.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And God bless him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: One thing you don't want to do when you want to get yourself over is be self-deprecating.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he was full on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, you knew me when I had hair.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, you could expect to see this turn.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, it's just like, oh my god, did you're undercutting everything about your arrow right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Stop that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was watching this on a treadmill and I'm kind of shouting at the phone.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to stop this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Somebody stop him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Tell me's a good person.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm reading Dave Meltzer's, I got his recap up here and he says no more BS.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I guess it means whatever you want to mean.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Either you don't have to deal with BS or no more big show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Dave, I think it's the latter.

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[SPEAKER_00]: think it means no more big show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This was there bringing all jokes literally.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He it's funny because they put them over as the world's biggest wrestler in here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we just seen Shaq, who is

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[SPEAKER_00]: way bigger than Paul White.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so that was that was an interesting choice.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, here's where he plugged that AW is going to hire a Hall of Fame, where the talent he's going to sign a multi-year contract, and it's not who you think it is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I have scoops.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He says, I just want to know, that's not why people are watching you here, Paul.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But that was a selling point for the paper

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[SPEAKER_00]: Then we got the finals of the AEW Women's Eliminator Tournament, and I remember this because they had matches from Japan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, that we're done in an empty building, I think, and I think they are on YouTube, and they were people you've never heard of wrestling against each other.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Although I think there was one, they could re-hope might have been in it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And no, they had people you knew is Rio, you could suck a Zaki, all right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, because you could suck a Zaki was who this woman beat it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maki, Maki, Edo was in it too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, at the time we might not have known her, but I knew she was from online though, but the winner was Rio, Mizunami

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, of course, like you got a Rio and a Rio, which is a little confusing and then on the American side, it was neither rose and I can't remember who she beat because they put up the graphics, but they didn't actually show the full graphics so all you could see was the semi finals, even though there was other brackets that you could see that were there, but they weren't on the screen so I didn't I couldn't see your you're pulling them up it looks like.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm trying to, I don't think I'm going to be able to, but we got this match and

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was a good match, like, you know, but it was a match that, like, nobody cared about, honestly, like it was, according to Cage match, it was the best match in the show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought the six man was, but, you know, this was, I mean, a really good match, not the Rose is tremendously underrated.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I don't know why they don't use her more because she, she, she, I think Naila beat Thunder Rosa, but don't cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, okay, that makes sense.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because she was, she, she was around at the time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They actually, she was in a pre-show match on this on that they were promoting her and Sprick Baker rebel against Thunder Rose and Rio, I think.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, yeah, yeah, and this is where I think.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, they're mud.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was I was saying something else.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was saying that that was the only match actually.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They had one match in pre-show at the time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: 14 and at almost 15 minutes they went, brick baker and mock oh so it actually revel ended up not being in the match and they replaced her with mochi iito and so it was brick and mochi iito against reho and thunder rosa and and uh yes because i was part of the angle was rebel rebel was injured and brick would have the right to pick her partner so she picked mochi iito.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Correct.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was over like rover on that pre-show as I recall.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and that was it like the only had the one match on the pre-show Which I remember those days, but this match on Dynamite is where I really turned heel on Jim Ross Jim Ross could not give two crafts about this match And throughout the night on even in the in the only other match of the night.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's just basically

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's going to crack wise, he's going to have fun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's not locked in as old J.R. might have been.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Tony's kind of, Tony's still in his impressed by everything phase, which isn't helping Jim Ross stay focused.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because you only had his moments to he kept calling Mark Quinn Isaiah Cassidy, even though I say it's not injured and was nowhere near the match, I think he was still fairly new to commentary don't quote Tony, I mean, maybe I mean, he'd been around since the beginning, but he may have had he yeah, we remember we reviewed the first match and he was there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, he was in the crowd.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, he was in the crowd.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just, but when we did the January 8, 2020 show, he was in that show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he started.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But Jim Ross is just coming and and Roe,

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[SPEAKER_01]: this match in particular, somebody need to give them stage directions that they were wrestling and they need to wrestle in empty arena match and they were playing to the crowd instead.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it didn't work for this half full arena for the most part like she's doing the mind stuff with the rope.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And nobody, nobody knew who she was.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And nobody cared about Naila.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was part of the problem too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you had the crowd that was super hot for the shock match and kind of a little bit for the Tully match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they were dead here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they were big.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Naila was going to win this match for the rematch with Cheetah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Cheetah was that ringside, just standing there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Cheetah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Big win.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then the net for this bad just oh, it was so stupid.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, so she comes out and and she, you know, real or she'd a congratulates her and list her hand up and you're waiting for it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're waiting for it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And of course, Rio turns on her.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And she didn't know cells of the churn and it's just, but it's not, but it's not a turn.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not solders at it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's so, no, it's, it's so, it's like too strong.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's still, look at them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're, they're going to, oh, and this match is, it's like, no, they're too baby faces who decide to sucker punch each other.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's stupid.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then they basically, yeah, they kind of stopped doing it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then, how each other's hands up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's like, look what we just, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know who I mean, I'll just call her row here reminded me of with some of her gesticulations quite a bit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: there's a lot of Jamie Hayter in her.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't even put the fur coat doing the thing with oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah up and everything there's there's a lot of there's a lot of Jamie Hayter in her let's put it that okay in and yeah yeah and she was like you know she didn't look small she didn't look small there with not like they were they both had good size.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're tired.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I need to look this up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I haven't heard from her in years.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I this is the first I heard from her probably since I saw this match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, no, she was on like she was on like she was an original.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think Well, they said she had done a match in yeah on the first double or nothing and that was the the only other time we'd seen her.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Before it's tournament

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I watched the tournament during the March 10th episode of Dynamite, Misinami Team, Rashida and Thunder Rose, and where they defeated Naila Rose, Machida, and Britbaker, DMD.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's all they have of her.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Wow, okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There you go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Huh.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So after this, we get staying out for an interview.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, he was there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I guess he had debuted on a couple months earlier at Winter's Coming.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they were setting up a cinematic match that they were going to have on Revolution.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Which I remember being awesome.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was better.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was better than had a right to me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's yeah, we're staying in Darby against, I mean, it was build this thing in Darby against Ricky Starks and Brian Cage, but it was really against the whole house of Taz or whatever they were called Taz family office team Taz team Taz.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, um, and, and man, these these guys, uh, bunch of jobbers they were.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Ricky Starks comes out to interrupt him and kind of kind of a, I don't know like a four out of ten Ricky stars from him and and it's sting just basically he called sting and icons locked him in the face of sting punk them out and put him in the Scorpion Deathlock and they were teasing the Ricky Starks baby face turn.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: In this promo, and then he swirled himself and said, you're an icon, but not a legend or something.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's the last him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was stupid.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it was, we were like a year away from the star's baby face.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But six months.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought it was right after this match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought it was like, because

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[SPEAKER_01]: Cage knows it's the mayor because because when he lost it becomes about the FTW title.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, because he won the title from Brian Cage.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then they turned on him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that's right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But they turned on Cage for some man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then they end up losing he ends up losing the title.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The hook.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I like Ricky Starks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't love Ricky Starks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now you're talking this Ricky starts or the current one or I'm talking all Ricky's okay okay yeah because and I don't know and I've tried to word this in different ways and I'm going to word it again to be very careful with what I say.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But he projects feminine it's femininity.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I don't what you're getting with this dial choices with his entrants with his even with his gear in some ways.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just it's one of those things where I don't know if he's trying to be For lack of a better term.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Faye in order to rely a certain toughness underneath.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But now even in NXT, it's kind of the same way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm just watching going, all right, in an earlier time period, he would have had a much worse gimmick.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, like he would have been, you know, like, people would have been chanting certain epithets.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And to me, like he comes off very slight.

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[SPEAKER_00]: that too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's, and he's not as small as he looks if that makes sense.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, no, he's tall, he's tall, but he's thin.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's something, but it's not even that he is thin.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's he dresses thin and he acts thin.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so he's not, like, so normally when a guy is built like that or looks like that, they project a tougher attitude or they, they dress differently to highlight the things that are are impressive about them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Ricky starts his impressive physique, but he dresses like a model.

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[SPEAKER_01]: right and and so you know like so he what he comes off as is he looks like kit wilson but like eight inches shorter yes and you know it's like smaller and with smaller trunks like yeah yeah yeah and uh uh he's now ill-grande america now uh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah they they they they're having a contest as who's who's tights could be smaller on on the same kind of frame

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but it's when there's, what, but he comes out here and he's giving the, I respect you promo, possibly to low thing in, I think, when they doesn't punch me slaps him.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's another part of it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then he, and then as J. Har points out the literal metaphor that happens in the ring where he gets the shoes knocked it gets down his own shoes are literally knocked out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So Brian Cage and Taz come out and make the save.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Cage goes the power bomb sting, but then Darby Allen just holds ass to get out there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, you never seen a guy get to the ring quicker than he did, although to be fair, I think the ramp was about three feet long.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so he jumps

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[SPEAKER_00]: his pants are falling down and meanwhile hook shows up at some point in this and essentially the bottom line is singing Darby chased off four guys on their own and you know which is great I mean they look like great baby faces but it didn't really didn't make you think that team Taz was much of a threat to these guys on the beat.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No in Taz, Taz can't do anything so he's kind of

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hooks not going to do anything so he's kind of staying in the background very new at this point.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like yes, yeah So it's it's one of those things we have two guys who aren't going to bump and two guys who can bump and it's like, okay, cool three.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean how hard was there, too

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Bob was still very green at this point too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, and a lot smaller than he then currently is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm glad that I wasn't the one who thought that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So then we got Max Gaster and in, which is Preston Vance, not Sean Spears, and they had a bad match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like you said the second half of this show was all work rate.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, what were you watching?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, but in Tony's mind, it was work.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, look at these wrestlers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, because they weren't, I mean, this was a bad match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, and they went like nine minutes and Max Gaster, like he cut a,

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[SPEAKER_00]: his rap was great I forgot how great his rap's were before he started doing comedy like well it was this comedy but it was better like it was biting it was that the rhythm was there like he actually was a time capsule of what was going on in the world at that time yeah which I mean didn't get some of it because well he read well yeah he referenced uh lady lady agogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogogog

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[SPEAKER_01]: after after after listening to it to be honest when I was like I remember there's a lady Gaga story at the time I can't remember what it was but it's just he threatened to beat up Brody Jr.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it was negative one yeah and yeah so yeah negative one is the leader of the dark order at this point.

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[SPEAKER_01]: which the big focus of this match is oh we got Scorpio sky here on commentary and he has a great broadcasting voice but he has nothing to say and he can't continue to camera to focus on him and they wouldn't yeah they they told them get yourself over and he just literally bypassed certain questions that they asked him because he couldn't think of a thing on the fly like

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, yeah, great voice.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think he ended up doing a podcast after this because yeah, like what advantages do you have in a ladder match over these guys, he just would not answer Okay, I really didn't have any I mean, and he's not saying anything about the two guys in the match other than I can beat him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, it

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's, it's Max Caster and it's 10.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So Jack Evans ended up showing up masked, but I mean, you know, it's like a COVID mask.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you know what was.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I hit press and vans with a boom box and set up a pin.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then yeah, Matt Hardy pays them off 42

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[SPEAKER_00]: $4,200 and it's on a green car.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I get thinking at the end of the month, you get to bring in all your little green cards and catch them in and that'll pay you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then the jagged oven went spent on weed probably.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, 100%.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so the match that they were having, and they were talking about it in the next match, which is the main event Adam Page and John Silver.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Again, this stipulation is the Stuful.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, do you remember the payoff?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I believe there was something, I believe it wasn't a pay off that he that hearty then suckered private party out of their money or something.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That ended up being part of it, but what happened was, Adam Page wins.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, he gets all Matt's money for the first quarter of 2020 doesn't get the figure money or so you don't know he gets the bigger money so he gets he gets all of Matt's wages all the Matt's merchandise money for the first quarter of 2021.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So him and the dark order use that money to buy tractors.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that's right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's where Alan Angel's gets off.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, that was what it was.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They came out, I think, on a dynamite, riding their tractors.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that was the payoff to this stupid angle.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Adam Page looked like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: A man among boys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that's the best way to put it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He was there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: His heart was not in this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He was like, it was like he was helping out some old friend that he didn't even like anymore was kind of how it came off.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then, like, a J.R. had fallen in love with calling him Johnny Hungi.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Johnny Hungi, Johnny Hungi.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He woke up for this match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He loved his little Johnny Hungi.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Johnny Hungi, who's like, a foot shorter than anyone else in this match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But over as hell to the crowd, you know, like they loved him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: God bless Matt Hardy, but I mean, he's not the other half of the beaver boys was going to get fired because they fell so much in love with John Silver and putting him in matches that they never put the other guy in matches and they're all still around.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, 10 is in the the proud house.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Brody Lee just keeps getting bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Corca Banna's not really around all that much anymore.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I think he's still works backstage.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think well, he got a tack by Moxley on collision.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, right, yeah, that's right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And never mention again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: uh... but i was told that was very important in setting up the hangman feud whatever they think lost the thread when uh... when they did make you cuscaccazaki the head of the dark order after anodrael because anodrael is really the heart and soul that old bit anyway so well and then when they have to brodo a when they had ten churn on brody and i said yes and they were like oh my god and eight years when brody wrestlers this is going to be such a big match

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[SPEAKER_01]: Wow, we got, we got a future of negative one during that better oil.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're, you see, he's directing traffic, Matt Hardy's like scared of them, like, all he does is grab his basket shake his head.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's normal.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that was a little guy got a paycheck anyway, so that was cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Get paid.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's all that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So apparently, in this main event, the match was originally supposed to be a 10-man tag, but some of the people in the match failed COVID tests so they weren't able to work.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's right, because they were testing outside of the arena, weren't they?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so I don't know who they did mention that Isaiah Cassie was injured.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it probably wasn't him, but I mean, you know, Matt Hardy had a bunch of people in his family office.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm guessing butcher and blade and bunny very often.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because they weren't on the, or no, they came out for the battle room.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they were there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They were there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I mean, it was, yeah, and page and silver.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it was, you know, could have been the rest of the dark order.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, um, but I didn't see all the angels out there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But tell if you've seen them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, well, probably not no excuse in a mask.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I did I did notice also Who's a Uno's partner.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Two degrees.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Two degrees in Allen Angels.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, very much a lot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They do, except Stu's like, you know, have to be taller.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I did notice Fuego del Sol at ringside at points.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Who is now?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you have you seen what he's doing these days?

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's lost the mask and he's a heal in G.C.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Doe.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he's great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's a great promo that dude.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's like he's one guy that he just goes out there to try to get heat.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he was a fun Twitter follow as I recall too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, he we're all there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Everyone up because Eddie thought he was retiring.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And all he was doing was retiring the foil to a soul character.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But he still wrestles as whatever his name is now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: uh but the uh yeah so silver uh I mean uh sorry uh page uh pin Quinn with a buckshot uh to win the match and uh Matt Hardy was out outside the ring and could have broke up the pin but he was scared of hangman so he wouldn't and then we broke down into the schmoss at the end with everybody in the battle royal coming out.

01:00:17.272 --> 01:00:19.894
[SPEAKER_00]: So, um, I've got the card up here.

01:00:20.175 --> 01:00:43.617
[SPEAKER_00]: So we had, um, looking quickly, the best match on the show on the paper view is actually the women's match according to Cage match, which gave a 8.08, but according to Dave, the best match on the show was the main event, the Kenny Omega John Moxie match, which I remember being a good match until the finish, like, you know, and I don't like these kind of matches, but I remember liking this one.

01:00:43.883 --> 01:00:47.688
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but I remember liking the cinematic match more than anything.

01:00:48.188 --> 01:00:53.214
[SPEAKER_00]: So the card itself was the young bucks in the inner circle, young bucks retain the tagging titles.

01:00:53.995 --> 01:00:55.217
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, David for an a quarter.

01:00:56.138 --> 01:00:57.339
[SPEAKER_00]: They had a the battle royale.

01:00:57.359 --> 01:00:58.300
[SPEAKER_00]: He gave four stars.

01:00:58.441 --> 01:01:01.564
[SPEAKER_00]: I, uh, great.

01:01:01.584 --> 01:01:04.989
[SPEAKER_00]: Pock and Ray Phoenix, bear country, Jurassic Express.

01:01:06.030 --> 01:01:07.832
[SPEAKER_00]: Matt Mike sidel.

01:01:08.133 --> 01:01:22.166
[SPEAKER_00]: Private Party, SCU of Christopher Daniels and Frankie Gazearian, put you in a blade, dark order, Reynolds and Silver, dark order, evil and stew, dark order, five and ten, so three different dark order teams.

01:01:22.947 --> 01:01:30.954
[SPEAKER_00]: The Gun Club, Austin and Colton, the inner circle, Ortiz and Santana, the natural nightmares, Dustin Rhodes and QT Marshall.

01:01:30.974 --> 01:01:31.154
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.

01:01:31.174 --> 01:01:35.558
[SPEAKER_00]: The pretty picture says our Bannonian Peter Ablan and the varsity blondes.

01:01:35.538 --> 01:01:38.060
[SPEAKER_00]: 26.45 this batch went.

01:01:38.501 --> 01:01:41.203
[SPEAKER_00]: I can't imagine how bad this would be if I watched it.

01:01:42.425 --> 01:01:42.565
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no.

01:01:42.585 --> 01:01:43.085
[SPEAKER_01]: No thanks.

01:01:43.806 --> 01:01:50.693
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, a car sheet of retain the title against Rio, uh, Mizanami, uh, that Dave gave it three and a half stars.

01:01:51.774 --> 01:01:56.758
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, keep saving a Merrill beat Chuck Taylor and Orange Cassidy, which Dave generously gave 2.75.

01:01:58.340 --> 01:01:59.801
[SPEAKER_00]: Cage match didn't like that one.

01:01:59.861 --> 01:02:01.663
[SPEAKER_00]: So imagine that was pretty bad.

01:02:02.183 --> 01:02:09.291
[SPEAKER_00]: Adam Page been big money, but big money, Matt three and a half stars, a terrible gimmick that was to.

01:02:09.411 --> 01:02:13.656
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, it was Scorpio sky when the face of a revolution ladder match.

01:02:14.156 --> 01:02:24.968
[SPEAKER_00]: And E. B. Cody Rhodes, Lance Archer, Max Caster and Penta, those are the advertised people and the surprise was Ethan Page as you mentioned earlier.

01:02:24.948 --> 01:02:31.296
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, and if you'll rock all, whenever they would do these face to revolution matches, they would always have a surprise and the surprise would never win.

01:02:32.117 --> 01:02:32.617
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, give me.

01:02:32.758 --> 01:02:38.905
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because I remember one time it was Matt Sidel and Leo Rush, I was it was a surprise.

01:02:39.005 --> 01:02:39.486
[SPEAKER_01]: I brought in.

01:02:39.586 --> 01:02:43.150
[SPEAKER_01]: I believe also, I think Ruby sky.

01:02:43.191 --> 01:02:44.572
[SPEAKER_01]: Ruby's point.

01:02:44.893 --> 01:02:45.654
[SPEAKER_01]: Hi, I think it's man.

01:02:45.674 --> 01:02:46.254
[SPEAKER_01]: I've been it.

01:02:46.274 --> 01:02:46.855
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:02:47.645 --> 01:02:50.089
[SPEAKER_00]: or Ruby Soho, I guess, right?

01:02:50.370 --> 01:02:54.216
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, that's right, because he came out and everybody cheered her.

01:02:54.236 --> 01:02:55.658
[SPEAKER_01]: She was over and then they beat her.

01:02:56.019 --> 01:02:57.181
[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.

01:02:57.221 --> 01:03:02.149
[SPEAKER_00]: So the cinematic match, Dave didn't write it, but he got 7.81 on Cage match.

01:03:02.169 --> 01:03:10.463
[SPEAKER_00]: So it was the second best match in the show, but they really do tend to over-age Japanese women's matches, so in actuality it was probably the best match in the show.

01:03:10.443 --> 01:03:17.754
[SPEAKER_00]: And it got 7.81, which would be the equivalent of what four and a quarter stars from Dave, but he refused to rate this match because it was cinematic.

01:03:18.675 --> 01:03:21.379
[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, Darby and Stangbeat Team Taz.

01:03:22.361 --> 01:03:27.909
[SPEAKER_00]: And then the main event, four and a half stars, Kenny Omega, retain the title against John Moxley.

01:03:27.969 --> 01:03:32.756
[SPEAKER_00]: So, I mean, that line up on paper does not sound great.

01:03:32.896 --> 01:03:39.606
[SPEAKER_00]: I have zero desire to go back and

01:03:39.586 --> 01:03:42.151
[SPEAKER_00]: Super chat, maybe I could be persuaded.

01:03:42.171 --> 01:03:44.314
[SPEAKER_00]: No, okay, Jeff says not even for a hundred bucks.

01:03:44.835 --> 01:03:47.019
[SPEAKER_00]: Not going back and watching a W Revolution.

01:03:47.420 --> 01:03:51.768
[SPEAKER_00]: If I was ever going to watch a show from this time period, I think I would hold on for a hundred.

01:03:51.828 --> 01:03:53.210
[SPEAKER_01]: I would for 25.

01:03:53.371 --> 01:03:59.822
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not I think I would go back and watch the double or nothing in 2020.

01:03:59.802 --> 01:04:08.617
[SPEAKER_00]: which was the first time they came back in front of a live crowd, even with like not very many fans, but that was the one that had the stadium stampede with Sammy Gavar on the golf cart.

01:04:09.058 --> 01:04:10.504
[SPEAKER_00]: I think I would watch that one again.

01:04:11.007 --> 01:04:16.554
[SPEAKER_00]: But I don't really have any desire to see these pandemic era paper views ever again.

01:04:17.716 --> 01:04:20.059
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, WWE, I wouldn't do it for 500.

01:04:20.660 --> 01:04:22.562
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not watching that shit ever again.

01:04:23.083 --> 01:04:29.251
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm looking at this women's eliminated tournament, and it's just like everybody's still working, but some not so much.

01:04:29.331 --> 01:04:39.985
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, the Japanese half, you get a lot, you got Yuka, you got Mason, Saruga, Emmy, Sakura, Ro, Ajac,

01:04:39.965 --> 01:04:51.982
[SPEAKER_01]: On the other side, Laila Hirsch, Thunder Rosa, Serena Deb, Rio, Ty County, Naila Rose, Britt Baker, and Maddie Renkowski.

01:04:52.482 --> 01:04:53.544
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, Rensink Claire.

01:04:54.305 --> 01:04:54.465
[SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm.

01:04:54.886 --> 01:04:55.967
[SPEAKER_01]: Do I have a big fan of?

01:04:56.768 --> 01:04:57.269
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:04:57.449 --> 01:04:57.890
[SPEAKER_00]: Wow.

01:04:57.950 --> 01:04:58.251
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

01:04:58.271 --> 01:05:01.435
[SPEAKER_01]: This is when, this is when Maddie still had the pony to.

01:05:01.575 --> 01:05:03.638
[SPEAKER_01]: As I recall, this is when people turned on her.

01:05:04.780 --> 01:05:08.605
[SPEAKER_00]: Right, because they

01:05:10.188 --> 01:05:23.202
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, yeah, and they WWE got themselves up there that they'll never do anything with and she'll be probably like go quietly on a Friday and 2020 surprise I hope I am I really like her a lot.

01:05:24.076 --> 01:05:25.758
[SPEAKER_00]: So talk to you in a bit.

01:05:25.778 --> 01:05:26.620
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, all right.

01:05:27.741 --> 01:05:28.482
[SPEAKER_00]: So that was that.

01:05:29.243 --> 01:05:31.967
[SPEAKER_00]: I, you know, I thought it was a good, it was an easy show to watch.

01:05:32.027 --> 01:05:33.669
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll say that, I watched it.

01:05:34.050 --> 01:05:37.355
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, so, so you know, we're recording this on Tuesday night.

01:05:38.015 --> 01:05:43.483
[SPEAKER_00]: And so last night, of course, was the longest world series game in history.

01:05:44.044 --> 01:05:49.932
[SPEAKER_00]: My plan was I was gonna watch the game and then I was gonna watch this show after the game.

01:05:52.493 --> 01:05:54.536
[SPEAKER_00]: the game ended at 2 a.m. my time.

01:05:55.777 --> 01:05:57.139
[SPEAKER_00]: So I woke up this morning.

01:05:57.339 --> 01:05:58.040
[SPEAKER_00]: I put it on.

01:05:58.460 --> 01:06:02.546
[SPEAKER_00]: I watched the first hour and 10 minutes and then I watched the rest of my lunch hour.

01:06:03.146 --> 01:06:06.090
[SPEAKER_00]: And skipping through the picture and picture, it was about an hour and 40 minutes.

01:06:06.210 --> 01:06:08.233
[SPEAKER_00]: So it was, you know, it was pretty easy to watch.

01:06:09.614 --> 01:06:18.225
[SPEAKER_00]: And honestly, like it wasn't as good as a current dynamite, but I would say it's probably easier to watch because there was more hours.

01:06:18.305 --> 01:06:20.628
[SPEAKER_01]: I think that first hour was more interesting.

01:06:20.708 --> 01:06:22.230
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that's

01:06:22.278 --> 01:06:24.824
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, definitely interesting newsworthy, you know, all that.

01:06:25.305 --> 01:06:27.590
[SPEAKER_00]: And one thing I'll point out to finish.

01:06:28.091 --> 01:06:29.174
[SPEAKER_00]: I did look up the ratings.

01:06:29.916 --> 01:06:40.540
[SPEAKER_00]: And they did 934,000 for this show, which was the highest they had done since the Brody Lee tribute show after you died.

01:06:40.520 --> 01:07:09.953
[SPEAKER_00]: And it wouldn't get to this level again until April of 2021 which was when they went on a hot streak and that was when the rumors of CM Punk were starting and they started to get really hot around April and would stay hot right through until like October and then the NBA season started and then they, you know, they're kind of momentum kind of died, but we were just about to head into the super hot period of AWS.

01:07:11.232 --> 01:07:12.254
[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, good show.

01:07:12.835 --> 01:07:13.856
[SPEAKER_00]: We'll do this again sometime.

01:07:13.876 --> 01:07:14.658
[SPEAKER_00]: We get some more money.

01:07:15.018 --> 01:07:21.008
[SPEAKER_00]: So keep those super chats coming people and Jeff keeping in mind that it's Sunday.

01:07:22.150 --> 01:07:23.212
[SPEAKER_00]: You got anything to plug.

01:07:23.593 --> 01:07:24.574
[SPEAKER_00]: Shake them ropes is great.

01:07:24.654 --> 01:07:28.701
[SPEAKER_00]: I really enjoyed that show on Saturday.

01:07:28.681 --> 01:07:35.452
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you can download shake them ropes on either the voices of wrestling super feed or its own feed, shake them ropes.

01:07:35.472 --> 01:07:48.293
[SPEAKER_01]: Also, within the fight game media.

01:07:48.796 --> 01:07:49.197
[SPEAKER_00]: cool.

01:07:49.999 --> 01:07:53.927
[SPEAKER_00]: And we did not do the take down because of that baseball game.

01:07:54.829 --> 01:07:58.658
[SPEAKER_00]: So Garrett and I should be back tomorrow, although I will be in Las Vegas.

01:07:58.939 --> 01:08:00.442
[SPEAKER_00]: I do plan to bring my equipment with me.

01:08:00.482 --> 01:08:02.827
[SPEAKER_00]: So we will do be doing a dynamite show on Wednesday.

01:08:02.847 --> 01:08:06.315
[SPEAKER_00]: It'll probably be a shorter one than usual because I'm going to be Jones and for Blackjack.

01:08:06.599 --> 01:08:11.793
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but I will watch the show and I will record with Jeff, um, it's my last night in Vegas.

01:08:12.174 --> 01:08:14.741
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to spend it podcasting that helps wrong with me.

01:08:15.403 --> 01:08:17.769
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I've been with anybody cool.

01:08:17.870 --> 01:08:19.013
[SPEAKER_01]: It's podcasting with me.

01:08:19.574 --> 01:08:20.858
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, that's the cool part.

01:08:21.680 --> 01:08:29.822
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, so for Jeff Hawkins, I've been Paul Fontaine and this has been the Dynamite Show rewind.