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[SPEAKER_00]: New Japan had a road to saccharogenesis show today at Coricon Hall that featured two title matches.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Walker Stewart called it junior genesis and that kind of works.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It fits.

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[SPEAKER_00]: uh... the show itself wasn't too bad at all and it was well-attended so i'm feeling a little bit more optimistic than i have less couple weeks we will cover that show talk about what happened there were some challenges thrown out for later on and then we're going to preview saccharogenesis the big show from sumo hall cam of this weekend plus super junior line up so as always plenty to talk about what germifying stone i'm steven conway in this is speaking of strong style

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[SPEAKER_00]: welcome everyone to speaking of strong style where we discuss the news issues and events surrounding new Japan pro wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I've been a little down in the dumps the last few weeks about this company.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I haven't immense words or hidden that at all.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But Jeremy is I watch today.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I found myself enjoying it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought overall it was a decent show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was not an all-time or it's we're not going to be looking back at this in 10 years and saying, wherever that night in Corican.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But for this morning, when I got up and turned this on, I mostly enjoyed what I saw and it has me feeling decent going into what is a big weekend for New Japan, but the

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[SPEAKER_00]: possibilities for the future being set up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, how are you feeling after all this?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, are you as optimistic as I am or are you feeling a little down where are you at this time?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, Stephen, we didn't get a chance to chat before the show started, but I kind of

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm getting over this cold.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You can tell it by voice.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's still a little raspy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just saying better than last week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You sound a lot better than last week.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I feel better.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I actually know that I'm present in here in the moment when I'm talking to you, which felt like it was not happening last week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you're kind of, you're kind of seeing music and hearing colors a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, the the sweet shit music had hit me hard.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But as it's happened a couple of times at my work when I get there and I get there at like 5 a.m. in the morning, first off there was an earthquake in the middle of the night here, no, that wrestling River radio was also talking about the happen to like 2 a.m. a nice little 5.0 about halfway between here and where I work.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So about 40 about 20 minute away.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's everything.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well,

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, even I get to work today and my buddy, my coworker says like, hey, I don't know if you've heard.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm like, whenever I get that, no, like it's like, I think somebody's died, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's not that's not a good way to begin a conversation.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so it's like 455 issue.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm just kind of getting my barren guy right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I drove for like 35 minutes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm awake.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's not anything like that, but it's just like what conversation are we having right now?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And they're like, uh, the sky that we worked with,

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm like, did he die?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And it's like, no, actually, he is a prime suspect in a cold case murder from 34 years ago in San Diego, California, and the authorities just identified him, picked him up and he is now going to stand trial for this case.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm like, excuse me, what?

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[SPEAKER_02]: What's up?

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[SPEAKER_02]: So the guy that I'd worked with starting about 20 years back, he basically crashed out, and for a lack of the better word, became a transient in the community and where I work.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't still see him for time to die, but there was a staggering fall in which his life just imploded.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And now seeing him as a stuff like,

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[SPEAKER_02]: there was some ghost of whatever the was happening him.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm just like, whoa.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So if you guys want to know more about it, panic through his man, San Diego, murder, Google it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I worked with this dude while I'm trying to parse all of this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So me coming into the show today, but oh yeah, let's just watch popcorn show.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It delivers, Steven.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Let me talk about exactly what I needed for a popcorn show today.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And the junior genesis had pretty good, okay, top matches, and then you know, popcorn throughout the entire show.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But anyway, yeah,

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[SPEAKER_02]: That was my day, Stephen, and I baffled about the info dump of things that came my way in my life today.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what I was expecting you to say when I asked that question.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I can promise you, that was a very, very long way down the list.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, we've mentioned before that we try not to talk too much before the show because we want to keep it fresh, but holy Lord, wow, it's like my next question for you is when does the Netflix documentary crew show up to interview you about this?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, so my wife.

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[SPEAKER_02]: bless her.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She gives me the hardest time because creatively stuff will happen in my work all the time.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And she'll have me did anything interesting happen at work today.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Had to make no, not really.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then like 815 at night.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'll be like, oh, we would take it happen today.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We're doing, why do you do that every time?

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[SPEAKER_02]: So my, I heard plan today was like, I got something for you.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It should have been for all the time that I have jailed you in the endeavor.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Jeremy's just cracking his knuckles, so I got something for you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yep, here we go.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Fairly certain this is ending up on date line.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's going to be on 2020 netflix documentary.

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[SPEAKER_02]: How they found this dude.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They're already like videos on YouTube from new broadcast about how new DNA technology unearthed like evidence against this person.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm just like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're going to look at all the people who are going to come calling my favorite murder last podcast on the left true crime garage.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're all coming for you.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I know that my boss at work called the PR, like because it could major company that you guys would know as I mentioned it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Sure.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And they called their PR.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And this is a heads up.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This is happening.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And you guys might want to be prepared because all the Duke Facebook page, who I'm Facebook friend with still to this day.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, the guy that's been arrested?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's like, we're a Facebook friend.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But guy, we're, we're calling friends.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, that's fine.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, still got a trainer jet, like, a damn it, still got a name tag from the site that we worked the right way or mo.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You are not a good spy, Jeremy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think you would hold up under questioning.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was just such a wild story, man.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I hope that the people that were victim family and the victim will get to be showing that they might have an answer.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I hope that the family of the individual in question is doing okay at this time.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But at the same time, holy moly man, holy moly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There is a serious side of this and that there's been a death and then things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, and of course, just a system innocent to prove and guilty's got to go through all the process.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And all the other YouTube videos, who are his face?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Even when he was in the arrangement, like they had the whole trial, like video footage of it and him in, like, the walked the room with the queer windows, word face, but I knew it was to do.

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[SPEAKER_02]: If I get a knife, oh, yeah, it's it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But if this does bring peace to Victor's family, then we're in favor of that at least.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So whatever happens, you know, let's just hope the justice prevails.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I know when you say that, it almost sounds cheesy and all that, but that's really the only thing you can really hope for in this situation.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, we live in a world where there are two justice

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, things that should reject if do not happen more often than the not, but it is a true testament to detective work that they found a cold case from 32, 34 years, whatever it was back when the dude was 18 years old, um, tracked him down and was able to, um, identify the suspect all these years later and bring him to justice.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean,

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[SPEAKER_02]: If you read the article and you see it look like it does not look good, evident and quiet, that's to what they did.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So with all that in mind, and if you're going to Google all that, he gave you enough that you can find it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and I sure what I'm going to say to show today, killed it, but I did think that it was really good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, what I was going to say is that if anything, this was a nice distraction from all of that's, all of what's been going on at the show today anyway.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it did have a good energy to it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, there's no good way to segue out of that and into pro wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But we're going to...

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I tried to with that really bad kill it joke, but you're right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They're really, isn't so the world is going to come to you and we're moving on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The road to Saccharogenesis, uh, core can hold the day.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, and by the way, Nick Reeves is here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hello, Nick.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Collin is here, uh, glad to see both of you with us here live.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And both of them with a shock comment as well on this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think we're all a little sorry guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, it's a, this is what's happening.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So road to saccharide genesis took place and 1476 Jeremy, a good crowd.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So the two title matches enough to draw people into cortical and where as, you know, they had some weak crowds in the past, but this one was not only a good crowd, one that mostly filled the building, but a pretty enthusiastic one as well, considering it's, you know, Thursday in Japan,

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[SPEAKER_00]: You've worked all day, you haven't really eaten, you know, you're at this show and it can be a bit of a slog for the crowd to get any energy up, not a problem day, they were into a lot of what they saw.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I thought the core kind of is a whole.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Goodbye, it's a cold run of sound.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the noise doesn't really travel anywhere.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's nowhere for it to go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That roof's not very high.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the room's not very big.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It looks, in the sound's crazy, because it doesn't look very big on TV, but it's smaller than it looks on television.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And like that, that room is tight.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And,

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[SPEAKER_00]: You feel like you can have a casual conversation with someone on the other side of it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The noise just sits there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You don't have to raise your voice to be heard.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So when people start yelling and start screaming, it tends to feed off of itself.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you get a lot of noise in there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's a terrific atmosphere for wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You can see why every company in the world runs Corrican Hall.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure it's economical, because it's not very big, but also the atmosphere is just unmatched.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, the thing that I liked about the show today

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[SPEAKER_02]: kind of felt admit, you know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like the crowd was there for everything.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think they're really excited for the show on Saturday.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, Saturday.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Saturday.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But in general,

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[SPEAKER_02]: After being in Gworkin, I totally understand the whole, it's a vibe.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like you're in there, and if you're vibing the product, just like, if you start a startup or DDT, or all these other shows, or in there, they're just ends up being like a vibe in there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And when the audience is synced in, I especially saw it with the DDT show.

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[SPEAKER_02]: During that time, that holiday, that Corkin Hall week, DDT show,

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[SPEAKER_02]: that audience who's there for everything and the vibe about it and I keep using that word.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But like it was a synchronized energy between the audience and the wrestlers that it's very rare to any other stable location, especially in the US.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like I don't even think Daily's play has it for AEW.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like it's just, it's just, it's a home base and like everyone knows

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if you go back this far with wrestling, but when Monday night raw first began, I mean, the late 90s when they did it, and it wasn't always live.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The Manhattan Center in New York City right there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That is a tight building where the low, slung balcony where you almost feel like you can reach up on high five, the person in the first row of the balcony.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That had that kind of

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[SPEAKER_00]: everybody is in this together on top of the ring into everything vibe to it as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you want to use the word, we'll just use that word today.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll be the word of the day.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it's the closest thing I've seen in the United States to a room like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe maybe recita that that we're home that PWG used.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I think that was just proximity because just packed into a, uh,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, the black.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're talking about our full sale.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think I do full sale anymore.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think they're like, no, the back in the day and extreme is a full sale.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like that whole sale.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like that weren't started, but even for like the product that they have there today, like they'd bus the people in, like it could hold team.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They can't park at the arena, like they take it out of people.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They'd bus them in and withers air in there for all of it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It does not matter.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That crowd is just like hype for it and it's their own base.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Mm, okay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, there you go.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like Hurricane, but it's the closest thing that I can think of, it's like a stable location that you go back to and you could always get the big hometown bomb.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and Colin mentioned something here about intimate venues.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But that's actually going to be pretty important.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Not so much to New Japan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: New Japan doesn't really use the place, but Shinjuku face is closing in September that venue.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Colin mentioned that they did announce very recently that Shinjuku face is shutting down.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's going to affect

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[SPEAKER_00]: Basically, every company that's not New Japan, I think you know, even start them runs face sometimes, and everybody else does for sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All Japan does know, I mean, you know the companies, but everyone uses face and show from there, even to not call them like, you've seen the magic there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's too bad because it's a good venue for a small show, again, everybody's very, it's very intimate and it's at a very easy to get to location.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, Shinjuku Station is a wabyrinth, but if you know how to get out, if you can get out of it and get to the surface of Shinjuku Station, that's the, I believe, Shinjuku is the busiest train station in the world.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's either that or Shibuya.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's one of those two.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's in Tokyo.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, what once you get there, it's in a high rise that is close to the station easy to find easy to get to it's a shame that it's shutting down, but We'll see what other venues are like right, it's all painted black because they're right any kind of performance And sometimes it's concerts small concerts things so they like to have the black just so the

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like whatever you scroll through social media and if you have any kind of like Josie or Puro like kind of feet in there, you can see some clips and you can see the small black room in which people were doing, doing moves and it was always going to be an education space because that was the small black room that you'd see wrestling happen in Japan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Shinkiba first ring is also a small venue in Tokyo that smaller companies use, but that's one's almost too small.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I asked somebody who had seen a show at Shinkiba first ring and I said, what does that?

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[SPEAKER_00]: But that's barely a couple hundred people and the guy just goes, oh, oh, if that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, so sometimes I feel like there's more people in the locker room.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There isn't the crowd when it's full.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's that tiny.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's good to have this life.

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[SPEAKER_02]: What G.C.W.

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[SPEAKER_02]: should probably book when they go to Japan, but now they can't book it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, a little bit, it's tough for companies in a city like Tokyo to find a good venue that doesn't cost a billion dollars like renting a huge arena and things so it's nice to have these options we've lost one of them unfortunately a little bit and by the way, Nick Reeves just came up with one of the best descriptions of course and I have heard.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I've been watching wrestling from court against this in 1990s.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You just says, court is pretty easily my favorite wrestling venue.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It is small enough to sound good, big enough to look good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The crowd always feels intimate and it carries a real sense of history.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's perfect.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I just was like, I'm calling bailed out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was paying to my girlfriend when we were there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And she's been there several times along with me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Just, I said,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Most of the best wrestlers in history have been in this ring in this room.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean not not in the ring they ring changes, but

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[SPEAKER_00]: A lot of the greatest wrestlers of all time have wrestled in Corrican Hall just going all the way back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was originally built, of course, as a boxing venue for the Olympics in the 60s.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was that was why the the room was built up on the fifth floor of that office building right outside the dome.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So interesting place.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So should we go through this show now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Go match the match run it down.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It began with the tag match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was showed at Umino and Tiger mask against Kushita and Masatori Yosita.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It only went five minutes and 34 seconds.

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[SPEAKER_00]: A lot of these undercard matches were short.

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[SPEAKER_00]: really short, unusually short, for New Japan, which again brought an energy Jeremy, everyone knew they were going short, so there was a bit of a sense of urgency in some of these matches.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And this one was raging fire by Umono to win, which sent a nice little message to Kanozuka Takeda, his opponents on Saturday.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he hit the raging fire on Yasuda and beat him, Tiger Mass, then took the microphone, which surprised everybody.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But he wanted to let us

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[SPEAKER_00]: He was retiring exactly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He'd been talking about it this summer, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: But he announced that it will be July 7th.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll be the final tiger mask for a match in Quarico and Hall.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we wanted to look people know in Quarico and I will be back on July 7th, at least, and probably, you know, until then as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But July 7th is final one in Quarico and Hall.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And tiger masks night was not yet over.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll get to that later.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Jordan, I will share some of those notes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, he was showed a show to him, no, come around.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Look, his shirt back on, it's still a little sweaty.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Take it a couple of deep breaths.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This guy, he's going to sit down and be on the announced team for the next batch up.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But as you're watching them prepare him for him, you have this look on a face, like shit, brother, I don't know what I'm doing here.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, they have to see.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You got this like, all right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I'm doing it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm getting into the announcer seat.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And, uh,

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[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't hear any of the calm Jerry, but I assumed he did fine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I was listening to Walker and Chris at the time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So the next match, though, it made sense for him to sit down because it was Takeshita, the television champion, non-title match, of course, against Tetsuya Matsumoto, the title match is Saturday against Umano.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This one went 635 longer than the first one, and he won it with a blue Thunder bomb.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he saved his A raging fire finish for other guys, which I'm fine with in the young lions don't need to take the big move, but.

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[SPEAKER_00]: got to say this, to catch the game, Matsumoto went off a lot in this match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He made the kid look good, Jeremy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, this was a strong performance by Matsumoto.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Of course, it was going to be a loss to catch the, but I agree with what Chris Charlton said after the match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He said it in a k-fabe sense that, well, he got a couple of good moves in and he can be satisfied with it, but

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know how they are on praise with young lions.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I have the impression that it is not very frequent and not very plentiful.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's more of a disciplinary type of life.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I think he deserved a couple of paths on the back for his performance against Akasha and Akasha made him look terrific.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So good night for Matsumoto, I think, and that one had been taking that loss with the Bluth under bomb Akasha.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then of course, he got to square off

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, Matt's motto is to talk when I pulled a bit.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think to Keshe to talk, kind of what up, him doing magic like this, just being there a little bit more than just the big shows, like, may not be all the shows, but him doing this, him just kind of, you know, being there a little bit at the truck, and he a little bit helps, man.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And the crowd receptive, inch by inch.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I watched Kenosuke Takeshtah this past weekend because TJPW had grand princess, it's Sumo Hall show in Jeremy, TJPW put 3,000 people in Sumo Hall for that show, 3,000.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's a really good crowd.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, it's not the one where he was posing with his life at the ramp and they were doing the post together and then they did their like Victoria's walk away.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, we'll get to that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This match here at Coracone against Matsumoto was much better than what they did at Grant Princess.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was Takeshina's wife.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they were.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Jockey, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: You were right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You were right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You remember sucks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, and then they were wrestling, supersets a dongle machine and hypermissile.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it was a mixed tag that was done as a comment.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And yes, there was a PowerPoint presentation at the beginning.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it was almost all comedy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And

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[SPEAKER_00]: not all of it worked.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Go with DDT level with TJPW.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was, yeah, it was, the DDT side of TJPW was, was got it, got it, got it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, I mean, for what it was, you know, you look at it and say, boy, you got Kenosuke Takeshi, you haven't do that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, he certainly could have done it all day and never gotten hurt.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So on the other side, the New Japan folks had to be sitting there just thinking, okay, yeah, do this all day for somebody else.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, you can wrestle when you come to the to our show, but there, but yeah, well, I wanted to get props to JP W for drawing 3,000 people.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The symbol is on big, big crowd.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And, uh, frankly, it out to the Drew the finals, the New Japan cup.

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[SPEAKER_00]: but there it was.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and as Colin mentioned, Hyper-Masalkan Russell, super-susset angle machine is a comedy act.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And entertaining one, I mean, he is funny, but I was glad to see Takeshi wrestling on a new Japan show.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We got it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, what we got next, we've got a death brother, Tachy, and you get we mirror versus Master Watau, Tomo Akihonman, and Togimake, take you through it, Stephen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Strange match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was about nine minutes and 15 seconds.

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[SPEAKER_00]: In the end, it was just Taichi beating Hanmo with the roll-up, but the story of the match was that Togi makami and Yuya Oymura seemed to get into it with each other and were pushing and shoving and even fighting outside the ring after the match and considering what's going on at Sekura Genesis and what's coming up with a junior heavyweight tour.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't understand why they did this, Jeremy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: where is this going to go?

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[SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't look like it's going to go much anywhere, but Makabe and Uemura, slug it out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That weird, weird, it was weird.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think they're going to have a match, and I think you, you're just going to beat them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I can't wonder why doesn't help you the one of them.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, oh, it doesn't.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This is, you know, he gets the match with Will in this six man, you know, upcoming.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But it's like with that, you know, like that's not as sustainable for him.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Will's got other plans and other directions.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, you get, we're going to start from the bottom and prove that he's the guy that can leave.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's like, no, he has to tell you, Mark, you may.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We are past this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We are so past it that I am, I'm driving the car around the block to what you know that I'm ready to go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, last week on this show, we noted that he was not booked at

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[SPEAKER_00]: a little bit suspicious of that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We figured that something was coming.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then, of course, right after we do the show, the next morning, they pops up that a match a six-man match and that they're on the card.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But Oymoura, after losing the New Japan final, seems more directionless than he was before.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he was pretty friggin' directionless, people.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so it's, again, the booking here is a little weird.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't wanna bring the show down.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm feeling a little bit more optimistic, like I said, but this was a puzzler.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't get it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Nick Reeves mentions that Makabe is shockingly well protected given his status.

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[SPEAKER_00]: can explain why a bit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know he's got mainstream credibility there it is right there uh but he takes far fewer losses than any of the other dads.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah he does that that is true.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They do protect him more.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh it's not zero but certainly even Kojima who has a better overall resume than Machabe takes more losses than Machabe and I do wonder if it's just simply because he does so many of those morning shows and panel shows and uh appearances that they just

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, they don't seem to have a problem making the money drawing guys look like a pot search, but that's strange.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I meant, hey, if I'm short, um, or you, you way more, the obvious answer is get booked on morning shows tasting people's food.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You won't have to lose as much as you do, maybe.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe the high profile he's with Machubeh, he's the star of the Morton circuit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I, my Japanese isn't good enough to watch people using slang and speaking and full speed on those talk shows to understand what they're saying.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I need subtitles.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not, I'm not that good yet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm, I'm, I'm at a very low level with my Japanese.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But just watching people's body language and reactions, it seems like Machubeh's really good at those.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like he makes people laugh.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he seems engaging people seem to relax when they're talking to him on there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, Jeremy, if you've ever seen some of these, but he looks like he's genuinely good at doing them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I mean, that's always good for New Japan to have their name out there like that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so maybe on the right type of charisma, Steven.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And let's see.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Nick Reeves is a current U.S. trying to be charismatic on a morning show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That sounds terrifying.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We have to see it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Steven.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You're talking mock-a-bay, huge pant and vert, you're to the mids.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Ha, wow.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think the miss provides a valuable service to WWE for just being a well-spoken, funny, charismatic person on, read you some Kelly or whatever.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, Kelly and what's Kelly and Mark, whatever it is now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But you know those type of shows right there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think that should be discounted that he's, no, that he earned a lot there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Ben, they're that long.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he doesn't come off like a meat head and that always helps right there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, and USVA guys, I think it's you, but it says a mock-a-base considered a God and personally do it with media appearances.

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[SPEAKER_00]: mainstream publicity is always good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, one of the ultimate examples Jeremy is Dick Byer, the original destroyer.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He was a foreign wrestler.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's from America, but he learned Japanese move to Japan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He had the white, the classic white mask and was one of the top rivals for Baba with JWA.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is going back before New Japan and all Japan were a thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: In the 70s, I think it was, he had his own show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He had a variety show that he was not a guest on Jeremy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was the destroyer's show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He hosted it for a while in Japan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you can really get over there doing those shows.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think it was like a week ago that I've watched you something with Shingo and Machivek.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And uh...

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[SPEAKER_02]: mockery admitted that he's going to relationship because shingo, uh, you know, disclosed everything and he's like, yeah, I'm in a relationship now and you're like, what?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Huh?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And uh, and you know, I thought it's like, oh, this is interesting.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They're doing something now in my mind.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like it's a hot bit of gossip in Japan to like actually

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[SPEAKER_02]: Kurt, about an earlier, but I really do think this is to give you the rub.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe it is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe I can just talk about you on the mainstream shows now, because he's wrestling mock-up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a weird world.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Looking, looking, looking, looking, looking back at you.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then I'm wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't understand why I got a teach him a lesson, and then you could beat him.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, who's this guy?

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[SPEAKER_02]: You get the beat,

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's not the stupidest plant in the world.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's found dumb.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But it actually is not the stupidest plant in the world.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I make things sound stupid, but they aren't.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We do that a lot here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: 10 man tag team match was up next.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was House of Torture, the whole fan family here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Shea Soans, Don Fale, Renderita, Yishinobu, Kanemaro, Yujirta, Yashin.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They faced Beishaman, Yurokigoto, and Yishihashi, along with Aaron Wolf, Oleg, Bolton, Bolton, Oleg,

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, uh, this was a match that happened.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It went about eight minutes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Folle dropped an elbow on Yano, and afterwards there's a Houcher torture beat down because how's torture challenging for the trio's titles for approximately the nine thousandth time?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, uh, I guess they had to do it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I could have done without it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, I don't know how many times you and I have

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I have nothing else to say about this and it's infinite right now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm going to do something a little fun that I looked at when I saw the the result page on Nutspan pro wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There's something called a royal flush, okay, where there's the aching or king queen Jack eight ten, right, soon.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I want you to suit

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[SPEAKER_02]: the the house torture in this match according to their card.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, they're being the highest of course in an heroic flesh.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's the oh, boy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And we got Rennerita.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You drew a talkahashi.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Chateau, Yoshinobu, Kenomaro, and Dawn.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, we have the problem is we have three tens.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's see.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'd like I wanted you to start with this one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, let's see what we got here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I guess you have to say with this line up that Rennerina is the ace.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would actually say that of the other four guys, kind of Maru is the king, because I would rather watch kind of Maru wrestled than any of the others.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The jack would be Don Fale just because his size can make him mildly interesting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The queen, excuse me, well, he would be the queen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Then we'll put the Jack as Chase Owens, who at least is not as lazy as you drew and you drew, would have to be the ten.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So man, I thought I'm gonna go to you into admitting in first time that Chase will move the ten in your life.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, he's a Jack.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, well, once again, you're just, you're one Jack off from that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: you got me.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, the terrible pun.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well played.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well played.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I would actually put Dawn Fallway of the Ace, Renner Rita of the King.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You should know that in Amaro it's the Queen.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, you drove the Jack and Jason.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's the 10th.

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[SPEAKER_00]: On this as the kind of tomorrow has to be his ace, if they're combined, if they're comparing each guy's body of work, that is absolutely correct.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, well, if you want, if you want to stop trading off the vibes here, sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I mean, here's a YouTube playlist of all of this person's matches.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm watching him.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm far away the book, the call push guy, I'll not, I'll not tag him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Got to talk to him when I was doing the show about Missile versus Kobashi, because when

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[SPEAKER_00]: Kenta, Marifuji, and Kanamaro as the hot shot juniors that sort of made the junior division for Noah that all Japan never did.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All Japan didn't pay much attention.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They sort of seeded the junior heavyweight crown to New Japan said, well, that's their thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We can't mess with Liger and all those guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Noah decided to go in with the junior division.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he was one of the three,

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[SPEAKER_00]: new hot shot juniors kind of are along with kenta and marifers and course ishi mori would come in later and uh... yeah body work wise the ocean of a kind of areo is uh... clearly the the top guy in that mix but now looking at it now that's how you have to deal the cards for me to do the other side

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[SPEAKER_00]: one boy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, for Bishaman.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, Tori Otto, Aaron Wolfe, Yoshi Hock, broke you go to an old Noah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, here, okay, go to was the ace.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I will say that, you know what, a while back, I would have said you have to make Yoshi Hashie, the king here, just because he works so well with go to, but Bolton has been coming up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think it might be Bolton, with Yoshi Hashie, then in the Queen spot, and I will say,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yano is the jack and wolf as the 10, just because he is still so green and learning.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Can you make Yano the joker?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think you have to.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There you go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Nick mentions the kind of Mara versus Kenza at the Noah Tokyo dome show in 05 is his favorite match from both men.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And man when those two were young, spray, and healthy, they could do magical things in that ring, both with and against each other.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So there's also one, not too long ago with some Kai, don't remember the full combination, but it was Ishimori, Kota Abushi, Kenta,

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I want to say Mara Fuji, but it might not be Mara Fuji might not have been the fourth guy in that match, but it was it was just incredible just full speed ahead cardio monsters just going at it and that's that one is a real winner too.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We're digressing here a little bit, but we'll move on to we dabble very little content together.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Still, that's not true.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We got stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: TMDK was up next.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was Hartley Jackson, ReoA, we went and Zach Saber Jr. against Oscar and Ice and Ghetto.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You probably guess we did the job in this one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hartley Jackson hit the DVD on Ghetto here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You can't say any new ground was broken, but when ice and Oscar wrestle TMDK Saturday, it'll probably be one of the best matches on the show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It didn't have to be the best

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[SPEAKER_02]: I enjoyed this match just because everything about all these guys right now seems to be vibing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That like how at the beginning of the match, they're like, yeah, we got one of these guys in here.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And don't forget about ghetto.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'll give it to you, give it to you now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You're like, yeah, maybe you've get a word in this match about to be even better, but we know who's going to see this match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Here's what I want to say very quickly about ghetto.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously, he's ages undefeated and he can't do what he used to do in the ring.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I'll say this, ghetto doesn't try to do anything he can't do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And what he does, like when he works with Zack Saber, some of that stuff is pretty entertaining in small doses.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's the thing, ghetto doesn't try to do a 20-minute match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't even try to do a 10-minute match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I appreciate that he understands his limitations and he protects his guys by taking the falls for him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I appreciate that about ghetto.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the handful of spots he does in a match, they're pretty good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He doesn't fairly well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He just isn't as athletic as he used to be, but hey, you know, neither am I.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we're not that far off an age from each other.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I know how much I, I know how much pain I'm in and I didn't wrestle for all those years the way he has.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So a lot of miles in that body.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Alan is count.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We found the one person who's not a fan of you to ice.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's as he dislikes the gimmick.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, wow.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, Colin, of course, it's all subjective 100% subjective, but I'll tell you what, you're in the minority on that one, but I think you are the outlier on that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think a lot of people are into you know quite a bit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then enjoy that he does something different in there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I do anyway, but hey, subjective, you can like your dislike whatever you like.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You two have just agreed about something and I think it could be wrong.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Are you guys going to be okay?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think so.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It'll be okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: After that, we had a six-man tag match with.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This was the United Empire.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We had Jake Lee, Zane, Jane, and Kalim Newman against Diky and Diky and Diky and Diky and Diky and Diky and Diky and Diky and Diky and Diky and Diky and Diky and Diky and Diky and Diky and Diky and Diky and Diky and Diky and Diky and Diky and Diky and Diky and Diky and Diky and Diky and Diky and Diky and Diky and Diky and Diky and Diky and Diky and Diky and Diky and Diky and D

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[SPEAKER_00]: usually the world title preview gets a little more space than this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if it couldn't have been that anything went long, Jeremy, because none of these matches before it had gone over 10 minutes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it wasn't that, but this was a strange look five minutes and 20 seconds for these guys, and who usually like to have a a real good preview tag, because none of these guys are lazy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Zain J came out to his young lion music but then it stopped and different type of music came in and they played you I played all the way through and that took up time Stephen I guess but then newman beaten a guy really quick

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[SPEAKER_00]: Afterwards, Suji was squaring off with Newman, Zayn J came up and hit a low blow on Suji, which allowed Newman to hit the Excalibur.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's getting the title shot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's the big underdog as the challenger, so it makes sense for him to look strong going into that show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But no time in this whatsoever.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This was fast forward.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I like how they're working with Saint Jay and like giving him that attitude and they finally unveiled the new music today, which is fine, whatever, whatever, but it just gives him a little bit more personality and character and if no longer just like the United Empire young lion, now it's just the guy that's going to lose all the time, just totally fine.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Do you think he could

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[SPEAKER_00]: Cool, that's an interesting question.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know where he lines up on that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If where he is in the 220 pound limit, so I feel like they want him to be a heavy way because of his height more than anything else.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If a 205 or 220, it's 220 because it's well, it's kilograms.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it comes out to about 220 pounds for 100 kilograms, 220 pounds.

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[SPEAKER_01]: OK. All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I mean, keep mine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're not under oath.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're not under oath.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would give.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was just wondering if you might be one of the last two guys in the, you know, and the best of the Super Junior here to be available.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, could be.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We, we have all, but it's only two because I've been releasing it in three, but that math thing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, how does the list done he told now?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I have my own specialty on the last two, but he's not out of the question.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, he's not.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so from there, of course, again, hyping up the the

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[SPEAKER_00]: taking.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So from there we have the junior heavyweight tag team title match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We said last week that barring in early injury, nothing could really go wrong here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, we did not have an early injury and nothing went wrong.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This was fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: 18 minutes and 11 seconds.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Robbie X has been shining ever since he started coming to New Japan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He really shine here again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Jacob Austin Young did most of the

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[SPEAKER_00]: Jeremy, this match was only a little bit back and forth.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, United Empire gave them a lot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This was fairly decisive.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was a showcase for X and Ishimori for a lot of this match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They got some offense and it was not a squash.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I was a little bit surprised at how decisively beaten United Empire was in this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: One Jacobus and Young's not too high up on the food chain yet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he's taking a lot of falls, but the fans loved it and there were some really impressive spots in this one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: These four worked very smoothly together.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're all good workers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: In the end, there was a dive to the outside followed by an x-express by Robbie X, a 450 by Ishimorey, so Jake of us and young took like three big moves in a row.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that finished it off, sustained a bit of offense for unbound company to bring in home, successful title defense.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And talk about the match itself before we get into the challenge.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you would please, what do you think of this one?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you enjoy it as I said it?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I thought it was a fast pace.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I thought it was one of the fastest matches that I've seen in Jujipan.

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[SPEAKER_02]: for the up to this year at this point like these guys were all going like a mile a minute and even Jacob Austin Young was keeping up with everybody else.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He ended up feeling like more of a base for things than he was like being acrobatic much of a self but he didn't feel like a sore thumb in any way shape or form.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think there was like one bot in the entire match and it was the wheelbarrow spot where if she mory and Robbie had couldn't quite link up when they jumped off the

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[SPEAKER_02]: two seconds to realign.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But they both looked like they were both very uncomfortable and paying pain trying to adjust and doing that move so fast.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I'll think considered, I figured it was going to be a re-attention because Frank was speaking, I think Akira had a real good shot of winning the entire best of super Junior success here.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Not my top pick, but he's up there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And he's just a name.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And for a good speaking, he shouldn't be in the net because for the tag titles, he should be in the net for the Jingle title.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Nick greedy smash the other robby is really one me and the home base over in recent months.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, certainly me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think you guys just wonderful.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So from there, though, Jose Fujita came out and he On Robbie Eagles behalf challenged for the titles again, of course, they're the former champions, so they want their rematch.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And this is as simple as New Japan putting its best match currently in the ring again, because Fujita and Eagles against ex-Nishimori

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[SPEAKER_00]: is fantastic every single time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not remotely tired of it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't care if they're going back to it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They can keep going back to it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's been a blast to watch every single time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I am into this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think this is a red herring to make you think the fugitives are winning the best

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[SPEAKER_02]: Or like I'm going to challenge now right before we have this tournament that we're going to be doing in four weeks to make everyone Off the set of like I'm not in or I'm not going to be the front guy for the legal title because I'm in the hunt for the for the Tad which is a frequent thing that the company does, but I think they're trying to weaponize that to confuse people

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[SPEAKER_00]: I have a pick for super juniors that I'm not going to share until we preview the whole tournament because it's still coming up, but it's not coast-a-foods I think he's going to do well in the tournament.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think he's going to win it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There we go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: After that we had the junior heavyweight title match, Doki and yo, and I was I was worried about this frankly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now the good news

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[SPEAKER_00]: Doki came out alone at first, and while the match went 21 minutes and one second, a lot of that was indeed one-on-one, and when it was one-on-one, it was quite good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yo fought him throughout the building, and they were playful about working some evil spots in their including, yo smashing Doki into the timekeeper's table, the way evil used to do and knock the timekeeper on his rear end, except sitting next to the timekeeper was Hiroshi Tanahashi

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[SPEAKER_00]: So since kind of how she is doing everything he can to make himself look as stupid and weak as possible.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He took the ball and did nothing about it and laid underneath the table for about 10 minutes afterwards.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, the guys posed just to make sure he looked weak.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Also, but it was it was the classic evil spot and they got in town.

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[SPEAKER_00]: How she got caught up in it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: uh... then doke uh... later on in the match again good match when it was one on one between the two of them doke ended up cracking master wata who had replaced show to umano on commentary uh... umano is just there to confront to catch the and that was it what it was on it he cracks water over the head of the black mirror then the referee bumps started happening and it all spiraled into an overbooked mess

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[SPEAKER_00]: every referee, but second moto was bumped.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Marty within seconds, Cantasato, lots of people, great reviews of course, lots of people jumping in again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not gonna bore you with all the details of that because it was boring.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But in the end, Dokey with all that interference and all that stuff,

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[SPEAKER_00]: uh... hit the subplex day well-looner to win so once again the uh... the president of the company who said he was going to get rid of south torture stands there doing absolutely nothing well everything he said he wasn't going to allow any more takes place and uh... not only did he had nothing he'd done he built it the champion yeah he did the dokey demanded that he put the belt on and of course the week when he goes and there doesn't like good lord uh... uh... anyway so he retired

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[SPEAKER_00]: Mm.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, Tiger Mask came out and got in Doki's face and by the way, that made him look like he had more of a spine than Tana Hashi.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's why I was just coming back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then he got on the microphone and said he was going to challenge Doki because he has one more left and I'm before he retired.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'll tell you what, this is going to happen before Super Junior's, I think.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's my guess.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because Super Junior's usually goes right into Dominion and all that kind of stuff and

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm in favor of this because I think that Dokey should go into Super Junior's as the champion.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's a good story to have the baby face is trying to get that shot since Dokey's gimmick seems to be avoiding conflict at this point, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So make him fight to get him in the ring.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm down with that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I like the Tiger Masters getting one more hara.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think everybody knows he's not going to win the match, but I think Dokey will probably

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think Doki will do his best to make him look good again as best he can.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I like the idea that Yamazaki is getting maybe one more potentially main event, if it's at a smaller show, for the junior heavyweight title, one more time before he goes, and I think it accomplishes a lot of things, it gets a V4 on Dokey, it sends him into the tournament as champion, it gives Tiger Mask one last hurrah, so I have absolutely zero problem with Tiger Mask getting a shot here, and this is going to do the match before the match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I, that's my guess it hasn't been announced, but I don't know why you would do it after because it seems like all of the, why would anybody, but the winner get the next shot after a big ish show between now and The current Genesis and then best of the jury here because they're going to power struggle or anything like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, there isn't there isn't quite anything like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm looking at the schedule now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's the death.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's there is road to Don taco at Corrican Hall on the 19th And a couple of days there at Corrican Hall.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The impact of the 19th and the 20th.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's also red zone in Hiroshima at the Sun Plaza more road to Don taco.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, there's there's more to come before we get to I get all one of the other card shows.

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[SPEAKER_00]: because best of the super junior doesn't begin until May 14th.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we'll have Don Taco and wrestling highs and no kooni is coming up and sagas are there, they're okay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So there are window and opportunity for the match day.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sure, yeah, a couple of cork and hollow shows, a couple of special shows that aren't Don Taco.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we've got some places for this to show up.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Sorry about coughing there, guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You are right in the middle somewhere of this match was a good match, but before and ever started, there was fighting on the outside, and there was a significant amount of conflict, and even the announcement is mentioned, that the match I could have even started yet, and these guys are going out at quite significantly, and then we had all the House of Torture stuff, and

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I feel like it's a weird April 1st kind of joke thing here where I'm the one that really down on the magic.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You're the one that's like, oh, yeah, you know, it's really good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Might as the house of torture stuff that, you know, have them go all the time.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I don't know what's happening here.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, it's a little unsettling to me personally that I'm the one down on it and you're the one that you're like, you know what, you know, they're they're they're a

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[SPEAKER_00]: there was about there were about 10 minutes in there that I thought were.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I agree.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I agree.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, Ellie said, I'm not making a big deal out of it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Not jumping up and down, but it was a 50-minute segment with the 21-minute match.

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[SPEAKER_02]: 10 minutes of it was good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I chose to focus on the positive today.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I was looking at you, look at you.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You were saying all the things that I'd say.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's weird, isn't it?

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So okay, a couple of questions here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I asked about this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What do you think about the possibility of Robbie Eagles winning best of the Super Junior's run if I said I would say that

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[SPEAKER_00]: He will be in contention, but I don't think he's going to win it, like I said, I have my pick, and I don't think it's him either, but it wouldn't bother me if he did.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't quite see the story with Doki, though.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's not really Doki, though.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's if he goes there, if you make it to the final, who's his opponent?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, but I mean, if he said the possibility of winning best of SuperGeneres, that means he would go on to face Doki,

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[SPEAKER_00]: a story with the winner and Doki, not just a, hey, I won now, I'm fighting you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like there needs to be some throughline going through here and going into it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, there needs to be a reason that guy wants to face Doki specifically.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think anyway.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think, and I've double checking here, but I think didn't Robbie Eagle win the best of the Super Junior one year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You never look that one up, but I mean we're talking about this here and I just don't what I'm saying is it's like that story.

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[SPEAKER_02]: If you've won before and you want again and it's coming to dope you're saying like I am one of the greatest of all time that people do not give me the credit for just like they say you let's find out who the greatest of all time it's there of your story.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I guess, but there go a lot of doubt with him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I don't think Robbie's winning.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's in no kuni last year had Despey defend the Belgians' temporary, according to Nick Reeves.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that would be a good spot for that match right there, the junior heavyweight title match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Nick also mentions he's ready for Dokey to lose the title, but I would be lying if I didn't say his reign has really rallied me behind the last few baby face challengers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The crowd was into yo, because yeah, I think people just want to see this

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[SPEAKER_00]: over with.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, the crowd wasn't the note in a courtic and hall.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It sounds like it's working on Nick as well where it's driven everybody so crazy and annoyed everybody so much that there was just room for anybody who's wrestling dokey to take it off.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We are currently in a position with wrestling where

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[SPEAKER_02]: The junior division is typically a work rate division, right, and the agency, and the AEW men's division is kind of a work rate division, and those are two of the generally the biggest work rate areas that people like to watch, whether it's good or not, it's work rate.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right now, both of those divisions have a heel that are just chewing up baby faces to make that one big baby face that beat them finally get over.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And the happened last year, and it's something that they, that all the promoter promotion do for time to time.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But every so often, it just gets cold.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And it's just like you get along in the tooth and then the same guy's doing it right now, you got MJF and Doki.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Just one of those things that when it feels old, there's nothing you can do about it, you're just kind of like, and if not the same kind of heat of, as, oh, this guy keeps winning and I don't want him to win, it's more like, no, I'm really done with this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Can we stop and do something else?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm asking you before I walk away.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And there are two different things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And a lot of people walked away from New Japan the last couple of years, so hopefully they get the message on a lot of this stuff soon.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So with that in mind, that takes us to the lineup for the best of super.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We've been talking about the junior heavyweights here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's take a look before we preview Sakura Genesis.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The names we know so far for the best of the super junior 33 tournament.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We have Kushida.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was coming back for this one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We had to have him back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's always a terrific worker.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I believe that said that he is the winner of the 2015 and 2017 and from here we have Reescape to Gucci.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was 2012 winner and Coach is in his, I believe, his 22nd tournament.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's going to be fantastic.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then he'll from DDT.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's fun.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I talk.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You'll great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then Taijiishi Mori, of course.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Gotta have him in there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Robbie X.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So we get both members of that team tag team champion currently probably will not be winning the tournament because they are the tag to champions.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But once that bracketing in the final people are out, you might be able to set out a potential other opponent because I fidgeted and Robbie goes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And by the way, I misspoke just a little bit ago.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hi, oh, it's not from DDC's Dragon Gate.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Dragon Gate, okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he's regretting it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sorry about that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just misread it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So after Robbie X, we have Teton, although I'm, is he okay?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I heard he was injured.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He broke his butt two weeks ago.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He was announced for the best to super-chegers two days ago.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The best in super-chegers is in six weeks for now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That gives him eight weeks, Steven.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I believe in the bold.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's possible.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I do not think

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[SPEAKER_00]: The better not have any setbacks on them, but I guess in two, in two months it is possible possible possible.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm optimistic.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She's great.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I hope to see.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Rubby Eagles who is also great and we're happy to see him there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There you go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Francesco Akira, he's great, happy to see him here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, we're getting, we get a lot of the same guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So of course, the court members of the junior heavyweight division are going to be in this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So some of these, there's not much to say, but yeah, of course, you said it, but Francesco Akira, to the rollout that they gave up in the order.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So they're dropping these names, because this is the rollout that they dropped it in.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So they've been doing that same kind of, yeah, they've been doing three a day.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then that gets us to 18 now with the final two coming tomorrow.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, depending on what time's on your end, yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Jacob Austin, Yon, he's in there for United Empire.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Very realistically, by the time that's recorded and the time you act with us into this, if you're looking to audio, that news will have dropped.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Master Watson, way to the Grand Master.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's their, there's 2023 winner.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Happy form.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, there it is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yo is in the tournament, of course.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Big loser, but not a loser in our hearts today.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Valiente Jr.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So this is a nice addition.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think we have not seen him in a super Jr's before.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's been a New Japan ring before, but Valiente Jr's terrific worker and should be a nice addition to this one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm interested to see him work one on one with some of the New Japan strong style guys.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, I mean, we were very, very incorrect at assuming that he was going to be the replacement for T-Tot because T-Tot needs to replace it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: show was coming.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I like show.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't, I don't tell you.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I, I, I just go, I like him when you, I like him when he wrestles.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I like him when he wrestles.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We didn't wrestle.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm kind of a jib.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yo, Shinobu, come tomorrow.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We talked a lot about him today.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We like him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We respect him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, he'll, he will be exactly what he's been probably all these years, a losing record, but one of his wins matters.

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[SPEAKER_02]: If you look up it better than the Super Junior's record for two years ago, and then you look up this record from last year, you will not do better than that this year.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That is my prediction.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Dice case, Osaka from DDT.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, just a guest in for this one.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, yeah, I'm like, I'm looking forward to it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He should be, he should be great in the thing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I would not be surprised if that led to more opportunities for the guy in New Japan.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But right now, the relationship between some of the companies and his little awkward, so we'll get to that in just a moment.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Colin mentions, I wish water would find his way to the grandmaster.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's been searching all these years.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Me too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I hope he reaches his destination.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Jose Fujita, he was the winner last year, and he is back this year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we'll be, I think, one of the favorites.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we'll probably score a lot of points in the tournament.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Agreed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Dokey, you have the champion, of course.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You can't ignore him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't expect him to win as champion.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think this is all to set up a challenge.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They don't do that much in New Japan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It all have the championing and hardly ever happens.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Don't see it happening here either.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Do you see him only losing one to the entire tournament?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, maybe.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, if the math works out that way, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he'll be

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, he'll be in the end when it could tire block.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And he could go to the post block.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't believe the one person.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He could go to the finals.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He could even go to the finals and threaten with the idea of, I would just not come to defend it against anybody.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Or I'll defend it against a house, a torture member, and some sort of set up match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He threatened to ruin everything.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, and not quite do it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Cheers to take, though, Steven.

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[SPEAKER_02]: If he goes 10-0 and he threatens to win the whole thing without like losing one, I'm rooting for him to win the whole thing.

01:00:02.396 --> 01:00:04.879
[SPEAKER_02]: I wouldn't think funk by that point.

01:00:05.580 --> 01:00:06.722
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, you can't me.

01:00:06.962 --> 01:00:07.843
[SPEAKER_02]: You do it, buddy.

01:00:08.344 --> 01:00:09.225
[SPEAKER_02]: You go.

01:00:09.686 --> 01:00:14.132
[SPEAKER_02]: You don't have to defend against anybody if you be everybody in the field.

01:00:14.613 --> 01:00:15.975
[SPEAKER_02]: But he's absolutely right.

01:00:16.360 --> 01:00:22.313
[SPEAKER_02]: If he didn't have what I can't do it, I don't fall with logic on his part.

01:00:22.673 --> 01:00:24.858
[SPEAKER_02]: It's insanity like beating everybody.

01:00:25.359 --> 01:00:31.492
[SPEAKER_02]: But if he gets to, if he gets to the finals of the best of the Super Junior, and he's like, I want to win this.

01:00:31.532 --> 01:00:35.280
[SPEAKER_02]: So I go undefeated completely and no one has to face me.

01:00:35.665 --> 01:00:36.946
[SPEAKER_02]: Loki root for him.

01:00:37.547 --> 01:00:41.030
[SPEAKER_00]: I wouldn't be surprised if he wanted to feed in block play simply because he wasn't lost.

01:00:41.150 --> 01:00:54.242
[SPEAKER_00]: He hasn't lost the singles match as a member of House of Torture and so I feel like if they are but again this company doesn't book well but his first singles loss in House of Torture should be in a very important moment.

01:00:54.282 --> 01:00:56.123
[SPEAKER_00]: Not the third match of his block play.

01:00:56.203 --> 01:01:00.487
[SPEAKER_00]: It should be the finals or his very final block match or something.

01:01:00.507 --> 01:01:05.672
[SPEAKER_00]: It's something with serious consequence and I should but they don't always do this right

01:01:05.652 --> 01:01:10.744
[SPEAKER_02]: I could see fluke losses for him like twice and then having one talk to quench your loss.

01:01:11.385 --> 01:01:18.902
[SPEAKER_02]: But like what we're proposing just found better, you know, yes, yes, he talked about he talked about being this guy that can't be beaten.

01:01:19.372 --> 01:01:22.695
[SPEAKER_02]: And so you build that, they're the entire pet to the Super Junior.

01:01:22.936 --> 01:01:24.017
[SPEAKER_03]: T's they can't be beat.

01:01:24.677 --> 01:01:27.360
[SPEAKER_02]: And then you make that, you make that story.

01:01:27.380 --> 01:01:28.742
[SPEAKER_00]: That's the best one.

01:01:28.762 --> 01:01:37.550
[SPEAKER_00]: So if somebody beats him in the finals, and not only have they interrupted the streak, but they pinned the champion, they've won the tournament, that person will have all kinds of momentum going into whatever's next.

01:01:38.111 --> 01:01:40.493
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so I could have a deal.

01:01:40.654 --> 01:01:44.137
[SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, that, uh, we got to throw out a debate.

01:01:44.157 --> 01:01:45.599
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, 20, 20 people learn.

01:01:45.619 --> 01:01:47.961
[SPEAKER_00]: Don't forget about him, that space in there.

01:01:48.835 --> 01:02:05.956
[SPEAKER_02]: Go, that we use two questions for me, two questions for you from me, one that you can defer on because we have a preview to do this in six weeks, but who is your low key winner of the best of the thing.

01:02:06.036 --> 01:02:07.098
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm not going to defer that one.

01:02:07.118 --> 01:02:09.641
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't want to talk about who I think's going to win until we preview the thing.

01:02:09.961 --> 01:02:13.105
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, then then Steven.

01:02:13.642 --> 01:02:19.147
[SPEAKER_02]: who are your two guesses as to the final two and for the best of the winners.

01:02:19.347 --> 01:02:21.189
[SPEAKER_00]: No, that would give away who I think's going to win the thing.

01:02:23.271 --> 01:02:28.616
[SPEAKER_02]: I defer on that as well because I hear it's like you think you think a hidden and drink if you come in.

01:02:28.636 --> 01:02:31.319
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, if you're going to win the thing, no, I do not.

01:02:31.679 --> 01:02:43.210
[SPEAKER_00]: The last two, I feel like it's probably going to be Dia and somebody else, uh, because a Dragon Dia who might not be

01:02:43.190 --> 01:02:44.632
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'd probably just be dying.

01:02:44.732 --> 01:02:46.715
[SPEAKER_00]: I think he's going to be one of them.

01:02:47.156 --> 01:02:51.442
[SPEAKER_00]: And maybe Kukai, the other, yeah, what do you think I thought?

01:02:52.062 --> 01:02:54.025
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I was going to tune that I was gravitating towards.

01:02:54.826 --> 01:02:55.287
[SPEAKER_02]: Dying.

01:02:55.307 --> 01:02:58.471
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, we keep hearing that Daya is going to sign with New Japan.

01:02:58.531 --> 01:02:59.873
[SPEAKER_00]: And he's left his other promoter.

01:02:59.893 --> 01:03:00.755
[SPEAKER_00]: He's left Reagan's gate.

01:03:00.775 --> 01:03:04.580
[SPEAKER_00]: And then they say, so we keep hearing that that's going to happen.

01:03:05.001 --> 01:03:07.404
[SPEAKER_00]: It seems like this is a good time to announce that it's going to happen.

01:03:07.905 --> 01:03:12.471
[SPEAKER_00]: And Kukai is just the one that seems to me to be the most

01:03:12.755 --> 01:03:14.940
[SPEAKER_00]: obvious omission so far.

01:03:16.042 --> 01:03:16.303
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

01:03:16.323 --> 01:03:31.776
[SPEAKER_02]: So as it wasn't explained to me with dragon die, was that essentially, New Japan poached it, which is not done in Japanese wrestling.

01:03:32.043 --> 01:03:32.604
[SPEAKER_02]: community.

01:03:32.684 --> 01:03:36.348
[SPEAKER_02]: Like they don't take from other promotions like that.

01:03:36.388 --> 01:03:42.375
[SPEAKER_02]: There is a period in which the the person leaves the promotion works a couple other places.

01:03:42.476 --> 01:03:49.484
[SPEAKER_02]: There's all like they're going windowed with shelter and then they and then they gave you under the new like the new promotion in Japan.

01:03:49.544 --> 01:03:58.675
[SPEAKER_02]: This one, the word is as I was made to understand is that him leaving is made to look

01:03:59.093 --> 01:04:20.848
[SPEAKER_02]: But it's not the way this has been done between Dragon Gate and New Japan in the past and it was very similar to the way that AEW has gone after talent for New Japan and now it's the other way around.

01:04:21.385 --> 01:04:32.865
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, we're not, we're not exactly sure what all went on back there, but I find it naive of dragons gate not to to see some of this coming considering how often die has been booked by in Japan.

01:04:33.586 --> 01:04:40.498
[SPEAKER_00]: If it's once, and that's it, then you think, well, they wanted to get a look at them, or they thought he was talented enough to bring in for one tour, and that's it.

01:04:41.059 --> 01:04:42.381
[SPEAKER_00]: When he comes in,

01:04:42.361 --> 01:04:55.703
[SPEAKER_00]: What, three or four times over the course of junior tournaments and tag team tournaments and you can't they shouldn't be surprised if they were surprised that's their own fault on that and I empathize with them because it's always difficult to lose talent.

01:04:55.824 --> 01:05:02.936
[SPEAKER_00]: It's never fun, but they had to know that a much bigger company with deeper pockets was about to come calling, right.

01:05:05.440 --> 01:05:06.141
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean,

01:05:06.948 --> 01:05:13.677
[SPEAKER_02]: I think there was a sense of security that it wouldn't happen the way that it did, but it did.

01:05:13.877 --> 01:05:18.063
[SPEAKER_02]: And so there's just an awareness that that is now on the table going forward.

01:05:18.403 --> 01:05:24.772
[SPEAKER_02]: And so, you know, it's like New Japan, they're looking for juniors, right?

01:05:25.233 --> 01:05:32.082
[SPEAKER_02]: That's where they feel like they are deficient and that's what they are investing in right now going forward.

01:05:32.122 --> 01:05:33.023
[SPEAKER_02]: And so,

01:05:33.695 --> 01:05:35.117
[SPEAKER_02]: I fully expect to see diet there.

01:05:35.417 --> 01:05:37.279
[SPEAKER_02]: I fully expect to see cool guy there.

01:05:38.321 --> 01:05:51.557
[SPEAKER_02]: We talked about Fubinori, Abba, potentially coming in, a couple of these other people, it's just, this is where they think that they are deficient because they got you, yeah, they got Shota and they got Yoda up there and, you know, they're going to the mouse to feed up there.

01:05:51.657 --> 01:05:52.558
[SPEAKER_02]: They got their project.

01:05:52.638 --> 01:05:59.787
[SPEAKER_02]: They got the people up there and then they'll have the people coming in, doing, you know, rotating in the foreigner's all that.

01:05:59.767 --> 01:06:01.070
[SPEAKER_02]: it's a junior division.

01:06:01.351 --> 01:06:13.658
[SPEAKER_02]: And so I get it if they cheaper to bring in the talent from around Japan than flying in foreigners from Australia and England all the time and putting it up, like maybe this is what you do.

01:06:14.667 --> 01:06:16.730
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, fair enough.

01:06:16.750 --> 01:06:23.261
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, so let's take a look here at this show coming up on Saturday.

01:06:23.341 --> 01:06:24.463
[SPEAKER_00]: We'll have the last names.

01:06:24.483 --> 01:06:26.786
[SPEAKER_00]: We'll talk about the last two names when they are announced.

01:06:26.826 --> 01:06:28.068
[SPEAKER_00]: But we have a show on Saturday.

01:06:28.088 --> 01:06:31.594
[SPEAKER_00]: We have saccharin Genesis and Collins says that we don't have a show on Saturday.

01:06:31.954 --> 01:06:34.178
[SPEAKER_02]: New Japan has a show on Saturday.

01:06:34.242 --> 01:06:35.004
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, fair enough.

01:06:35.044 --> 01:06:35.605
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, pardon me.

01:06:35.625 --> 01:06:38.490
[SPEAKER_00]: I meant the Royal Wii is as fans.

01:06:38.551 --> 01:06:39.633
[SPEAKER_00]: We've got to show to watch.

01:06:40.194 --> 01:06:45.023
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't want you to get to a side that you're going to get to see me in Steven quite a week.

01:06:45.043 --> 01:06:47.749
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, Colin says I really help Bob Ajoin's new Japan.

01:06:47.789 --> 01:06:48.390
[SPEAKER_00]: He's awesome.

01:06:48.410 --> 01:06:50.073
[SPEAKER_00]: I think a lot of people are looking forward to that.

01:06:50.093 --> 01:06:50.935
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:06:52.045 --> 01:07:02.940
[SPEAKER_00]: Also, I was wondering, has an intramac been wrestling much at all, yeah, yeah, yeah, I see you got a social media, you look it for date around Vegas and you're doing a thing.

01:07:03.020 --> 01:07:04.482
[SPEAKER_02]: I just.

01:07:04.502 --> 01:07:12.653
[SPEAKER_00]: You see, buddy, probably student yeah, juggle and our smooth, all right, well, hey.

01:07:12.835 --> 01:07:13.296
[SPEAKER_00]: tough times.

01:07:13.536 --> 01:07:15.999
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, let's see, uh, going into a second.

01:07:16.099 --> 01:07:20.125
[SPEAKER_00]: I was just curious because I know he was off the China show and then just poofed in here and brought him anymore.

01:07:20.566 --> 01:07:30.639
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he was going to pan to expect a crackleague and then he said unfortunately he wasn't going to be and then he was just summarily not you fed the company.

01:07:30.659 --> 01:07:30.960
[SPEAKER_02]: We're good.

01:07:31.841 --> 01:07:32.061
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

01:07:33.223 --> 01:07:33.483
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, right.

01:07:33.583 --> 01:07:38.049
[SPEAKER_00]: I like the guy is too bad, but maybe maybe he's just a little bit too expensive for what they're looking for.

01:07:38.230 --> 01:07:41.374
[SPEAKER_02]: All right, back to the

01:07:41.540 --> 01:07:51.660
[SPEAKER_00]: We are opening up with Hartley Jackson and Cosae Fujida against Togi Makabe and Tiger Mask, which really makes the ooy more of a Makabe thing even more puzzling.

01:07:51.680 --> 01:07:58.333
[SPEAKER_00]: But either way, here they are opening up this show, Makabe and Tiger Mask against Hartley Jackson and Cosae Fujida.

01:07:58.313 --> 01:08:03.383
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, you know, this could go a hundred different ways, none of which have any real consequence.

01:08:03.443 --> 01:08:13.422
[SPEAKER_00]: The only thing I would say is I would I would be very surprised if Fujita took the fall here, just because he's in the tournament and I think they're going to try to keep those guys strong if they possibly can.

01:08:14.364 --> 01:08:18.432
[SPEAKER_00]: So again, don't really go to heartly lucid.

01:08:19.323 --> 01:08:24.572
[SPEAKER_00]: I could be tiger mask for that matter, but yeah, macabase pretty well protected.

01:08:24.592 --> 01:08:28.538
[SPEAKER_02]: You really have tiger mask glue the night after the last show.

01:08:28.578 --> 01:08:32.765
[SPEAKER_00]: Not really, so this could be the King Kong knee on Hartley.

01:08:33.487 --> 01:08:37.333
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you know, Big Bocke may look good before you have to fight you, yeah.

01:08:38.655 --> 01:08:45.246
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you know, the only person that doesn't have anything going really is Jackson and that one is much as we like, correct, correct.

01:08:46.407 --> 01:08:54.635
[SPEAKER_00]: Next match is a six-man tag, and this is Robbie, the post-view match says we constantly call it from the title match today.

01:08:54.655 --> 01:08:56.677
[SPEAKER_00]: So this is Ishimori and X, the champion.

01:08:56.737 --> 01:09:05.326
[SPEAKER_00]: So the Junior Tag Team Champion's teaming was Shingo Takagi and facing Jake Lee and the team to challenge them, Akira and Jacob Austin Young.

01:09:07.087 --> 01:09:12.853
[SPEAKER_02]: Steven, I am really hoping that at some point, somebody in New Japan,

01:09:13.205 --> 01:09:38.740
[SPEAKER_02]: draws the clown faith manually on the on Jake leaf graphic so that it's got like that gesture thing as if somebody like came in there and like changed it for like VTR so every time they slap that thing on there it's not that normal Jake leaf faith's like a weird clown smile scratched out version of Jake leaf every time I really think that they need to do this it would make Jake leave matches more intercase

01:09:39.715 --> 01:09:40.276
[SPEAKER_00]: there you go.

01:09:40.656 --> 01:09:42.479
[SPEAKER_00]: So I mean, this is just a match to happen.

01:09:42.519 --> 01:09:45.804
[SPEAKER_00]: So because the match that it's really about is already taking place.

01:09:45.864 --> 01:09:48.467
[SPEAKER_00]: So it'll be good action for the most part.

01:09:48.568 --> 01:09:52.213
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's going to be highlighting the ginger going into the back to the super ginger.

01:09:52.273 --> 01:09:53.094
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what I'm going to do.

01:09:53.815 --> 01:09:54.756
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, no problem with that.

01:09:55.497 --> 01:10:02.247
[SPEAKER_00]: After that, we have a person tag, Aaron Wolf, Master Watto Toru Iyano,

01:10:03.205 --> 01:10:09.712
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's see, with yo, pardon me, against Don Fale, Dokey, show and Yoshinobu kind of Marasa.

01:10:09.732 --> 01:10:19.282
[SPEAKER_00]: Here's your post view of the singles, Junior title match, and then throw in a wolf and Yano and all that kind of stuff.

01:10:19.302 --> 01:10:30.394
[SPEAKER_00]: Like you mentioned, hopefully the Junior's will look decent in this one, but, again, yet another, Han Thai versus South Georgia match.

01:10:30.712 --> 01:10:40.093
[SPEAKER_02]: I got you got three junior if it don't follow you on one side and then two junior if it too heavyweight club the other side They're just putting guys together.

01:10:40.454 --> 01:10:41.256
[SPEAKER_02]: They're just putting guys.

01:10:41.276 --> 01:10:43.721
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, who doesn't have a match yet.

01:10:43.862 --> 01:10:46.307
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, she fell into the card.

01:10:49.334 --> 01:10:50.256
[SPEAKER_02]: He didn't make cut.

01:10:51.113 --> 01:10:53.681
[SPEAKER_00]: You get way more is teaming with Tahiti and others, bro.

01:10:53.701 --> 01:10:55.507
[SPEAKER_00]: This is much we did not know about last week.

01:10:55.547 --> 01:10:57.894
[SPEAKER_00]: I imagine they were just finalizing a couple of things.

01:10:57.934 --> 01:10:59.459
[SPEAKER_02]: Throw out the whole wide of it.

01:10:59.479 --> 01:11:04.414
[SPEAKER_02]: You get, oh, we have a match conversation in our lives, podcast, e-relevant.

01:11:04.681 --> 01:11:07.564
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, yeah, and we thought it was suspicious that he didn't.

01:11:07.624 --> 01:11:08.485
[SPEAKER_00]: That's the whole point.

01:11:08.565 --> 01:11:13.890
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like he was conspicuous by his absence, but it turns out it was because they were finalizing a few things for this.

01:11:14.110 --> 01:11:16.312
[SPEAKER_00]: Will Osprey, we're turning to a new Japan ring.

01:11:16.833 --> 01:11:17.774
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm thrilled about that.

01:11:18.094 --> 01:11:19.856
[SPEAKER_00]: I have a big fan of Will Osprey.

01:11:19.896 --> 01:11:20.957
[SPEAKER_00]: I enjoy his work.

01:11:20.977 --> 01:11:21.858
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm happy he's back.

01:11:21.878 --> 01:11:25.141
[SPEAKER_00]: He's teaming up with Great O'Con and Henare from the United Empire.

01:11:25.521 --> 01:11:33.169
[SPEAKER_00]: I guess, Tai Chi, Desperado, and Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-

01:11:33.638 --> 01:11:36.102
[SPEAKER_00]: Osprey's eventual story is with Newman.

01:11:37.705 --> 01:11:40.590
[SPEAKER_00]: You is in this for some reason or another.

01:11:40.610 --> 01:11:44.456
[SPEAKER_00]: I would just kind of curious to see what goes on with this match.

01:11:44.476 --> 01:11:53.571
[SPEAKER_00]: Or if it's just a match to have and then we'll move on to Osprey and Newman down the road is there going to be some sort of story or is everyone just going to wrestle and shake hands?

01:11:54.344 --> 01:12:08.174
[SPEAKER_02]: The next thing is, you know, an empire doesn't really do that, but then that they'll put their crowns up thing and everybody and everybody happy and, you know, just off, break, run the needing Newman that is off, break going to be written side for Newman in the main event.

01:12:08.274 --> 01:12:11.661
[SPEAKER_02]: That kind of that kind of question, which he probably should.

01:12:11.641 --> 01:12:19.553
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, like, if you're really doing that story, offspray rinside with Kalm Newman, if Kalm Winder loses, you can blame it on offspray either way.

01:12:19.634 --> 01:12:21.196
[SPEAKER_02]: And like, you know what I mean?

01:12:21.757 --> 01:12:23.980
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, there seems to be some kind of energy to that.

01:12:24.481 --> 01:12:31.472
[SPEAKER_02]: The question for me is this, will offspray has a match on AEW Dynamite with Park last night?

01:12:32.178 --> 01:12:34.601
[SPEAKER_02]: He gets his ass beat from pillar to post.

01:12:34.982 --> 01:12:39.248
[SPEAKER_02]: He just absolutely just destroyed by the death writers.

01:12:39.849 --> 01:12:42.152
[SPEAKER_02]: Is any of this going to be mentioned?

01:12:42.212 --> 01:12:45.957
[SPEAKER_02]: Is any of this going to be taken into account for this match that he's doing?

01:12:46.298 --> 01:12:53.848
[SPEAKER_02]: Or is he just Superman Will Off-Pray with his first match back in New Japan, United Empire, all of these things?

01:12:53.828 --> 01:13:11.649
[SPEAKER_02]: This will be one of the most interesting witness tests for me regarding the relationship between these two companies and how much communication is going back and forth because the ability to coordinate with the law spray is very important for both of these companies.

01:13:12.310 --> 01:13:20.680
[SPEAKER_02]: And if they're able to keep whatever they're doing, somewhat synchronized with each other, it'll make me feel much more confident about plans in the long run.

01:13:21.200 --> 01:13:22.663
[SPEAKER_00]: I just hope they adore everything.

01:13:22.744 --> 01:13:25.189
[SPEAKER_00]: AEW related for a good long time.

01:13:25.690 --> 01:13:26.151
[SPEAKER_02]: Fair enough.

01:13:27.254 --> 01:13:27.514
[SPEAKER_00]: Next.

01:13:30.641 --> 01:13:32.426
[SPEAKER_00]: Is another six-man tag.

01:13:32.446 --> 01:13:33.368
[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, look, we're multi-man.

01:13:33.408 --> 01:13:34.530
[SPEAKER_00]: There's Chase Oundsey's in there.

01:13:34.851 --> 01:13:35.954
[SPEAKER_00]: I guess, use your own tag.

01:13:35.974 --> 01:13:39.141
[SPEAKER_00]: He's in there with you, Shiro Takahashi, and Rennerita, I guess.

01:13:39.161 --> 01:13:40.103
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm excited.

01:13:40.437 --> 01:13:42.903
[SPEAKER_00]: against Beishaman and Yoshi.

01:13:42.923 --> 01:13:45.268
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, of course, this is the six-man tag match.

01:13:45.328 --> 01:13:47.914
[SPEAKER_00]: So six-man tag team titles is Beishaman.

01:13:47.954 --> 01:13:49.057
[SPEAKER_00]: So here we go, Yoshi.

01:13:49.077 --> 01:13:53.628
[SPEAKER_00]: How's she and Oleg both in facing Narita, usual talk of how she and Chase Owens?

01:13:54.890 --> 01:13:59.020
[SPEAKER_00]: I really, really hope they keep these titles away from how such a thing.

01:14:00.147 --> 01:14:14.891
[SPEAKER_00]: You don't trust for the trio title is not a big deal in New Japan, but it could at least be an interesting match on a card and it just won't be if it's with House of Torture and certainly not with the usual in Chase.

01:14:15.412 --> 01:14:21.261
[SPEAKER_00]: The issue is, usual in Chase are both so far down the pecking order from the guys on the other side.

01:14:21.832 --> 01:14:25.876
[SPEAKER_00]: It's just hard to imagine how the torture actually winning this one.

01:14:26.697 --> 01:14:27.638
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

01:14:28.239 --> 01:14:30.081
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, well, yeah, the all darn great.

01:14:30.662 --> 01:14:35.447
[SPEAKER_02]: But of all the magic with the title on the line, this one to me is the most likely of the title change.

01:14:35.467 --> 01:14:38.530
[SPEAKER_02]: And because it doesn't matter.

01:14:38.570 --> 01:14:42.214
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's always possibility.

01:14:42.634 --> 01:14:49.662
[SPEAKER_00]: How's the torture like I said, it doesn't have to match up in terms of where they are in the pecking order, because 10 people might run into this thing.

01:14:50.603 --> 01:15:09.922
[SPEAKER_02]: More or less, by the time the G1 come around, I don't want Oleg or Godo to have a title on them because I want the illusion that they are in the, I want the illusion that they are in the hunt for the IWGP to be more real than ever.

01:15:10.242 --> 01:15:14.906
[SPEAKER_02]: But if they're holding the never six man titles, I don't feel that way.

01:15:14.926 --> 01:15:16.168
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think Colin speaks for all of us.

01:15:16.188 --> 01:15:18.670
[SPEAKER_00]: For the love of God, don't put the bell's on house torture.

01:15:18.987 --> 01:15:20.591
[SPEAKER_02]: There is no God would have to torture.

01:15:21.793 --> 01:15:25.882
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, you know, it's, boy, is that a mediocre lineup too?

01:15:25.943 --> 01:15:32.657
[SPEAKER_00]: Like the, the other mediocrity that is Renderita, the mediocrity that is chase on, send the below average that is usual.

01:15:32.718 --> 01:15:33.620
[SPEAKER_00]: That's, that's rough.

01:15:33.960 --> 01:15:34.722
[SPEAKER_00]: That's a rough team.

01:15:34.983 --> 01:15:35.544
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, next.

01:15:37.007 --> 01:15:38.751
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, got it, you got it, buddy.

01:15:39.794 --> 01:15:43.142
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, intriguing here, this is the TV title match.

01:15:43.202 --> 01:15:45.428
[SPEAKER_00]: Can I skate to Kesta against Showed Omeno?

01:15:45.488 --> 01:15:50.219
[SPEAKER_00]: Of course, Omeno coming off his failure again at the New Japan Cup.

01:15:50.259 --> 01:15:51.943
[SPEAKER_00]: Doesn't seem to be bothering him too much though.

01:15:52.324 --> 01:15:55.913
[SPEAKER_00]: He's wrestling, and I was skate to Kesta.

01:15:55.893 --> 01:16:01.861
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't care, it's I can't bring myself to give a crap about show to Omeno anymore.

01:16:01.881 --> 01:16:03.103
[SPEAKER_00]: He just fails.

01:16:03.383 --> 01:16:03.904
[SPEAKER_00]: He just fails.

01:16:03.944 --> 01:16:06.808
[SPEAKER_00]: And I talk a little bit about perhaps why last week.

01:16:06.908 --> 01:16:12.716
[SPEAKER_00]: And I still like my spicy take on that, but there might be a little triple H disease going on in New Japan circles.

01:16:13.357 --> 01:16:16.281
[SPEAKER_00]: But either way, to Kesha and Omeno,

01:16:16.615 --> 01:16:24.343
[SPEAKER_00]: I guess you could have showed a win this if you wanted to do something with him, it wouldn't be particularly interesting.

01:16:25.304 --> 01:16:30.009
[SPEAKER_00]: You could do a 15 minute draw, but they just did that with Fantasma.

01:16:30.770 --> 01:16:34.815
[SPEAKER_00]: And then he asked for overtime like an idiot, just because you always want your baby face to look stupid.

01:16:35.515 --> 01:16:40.981
[SPEAKER_00]: And then, you know, here, it would get to cash to could beat him and it's just yet another big loss for Umano.

01:16:41.081 --> 01:16:44.445
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't see an outcome of this that really,

01:16:44.611 --> 01:17:08.053
[SPEAKER_00]: Improves anything for Newspand to you I feel like we're just getting a draw you go the whole thing about it to catch you to walk to a venue to walk to the sky yeah, I think he's right that's to stay and I think that's he's going to do it and I think he's just going to beat him because show to beat him in the G one if there is a finish in this the issue is the draw Jeremy is then he got to do it again then what do you do?

01:17:09.063 --> 01:17:13.950
[SPEAKER_02]: Although run it back in the G1, these guys could wrestle and wrestle kingdom and it would be pretty good.

01:17:14.311 --> 01:17:22.544
[SPEAKER_02]: If they go through every match that they have through the entire year and tell their like their must be a winner match, like I could get behind that.

01:17:23.124 --> 01:17:26.970
[SPEAKER_02]: Right now, the formula of them having a 15 minute match with an inclusive winner.

01:17:28.152 --> 01:17:38.007
[SPEAKER_02]: That feels like the vocal like we think to me double count out whatever, but neither one of these guys benefit from winning or losing a 15 minute match with each other.

01:17:38.257 --> 01:17:56.063
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, what about a 15 minute draw here and a 30 minute draw in the G1 and then it goes on to say like we've got to figure out a way for one of us to guess.

01:17:56.363 --> 01:18:01.389
[SPEAKER_00]: It's it's not the story that Shota should be doing, but they they chickened out on that.

01:18:01.509 --> 01:18:05.293
[SPEAKER_00]: So again, we'll take whatever we can get me and and that might not be it keep mine.

01:18:05.353 --> 01:18:12.161
[SPEAKER_00]: This might just be a Finishing me just to get on to the things we've been in could 55 seconds.

01:18:12.181 --> 01:18:13.202
[SPEAKER_02]: Fine.

01:18:13.222 --> 01:18:17.066
[SPEAKER_02]: But show to even if never want a world title never want to think of title of any type.

01:18:17.507 --> 01:18:20.650
[SPEAKER_02]: If you'll vaguely underwhelming if you were to win it here.

01:18:21.254 --> 01:18:25.300
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, showed has been booked underwhelmingly for years.

01:18:25.580 --> 01:18:26.261
[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah.

01:18:26.281 --> 01:18:33.992
[SPEAKER_02]: So I think I like the idea of somebody coming after showed up, like to try and get something you showed up like Navra, you're not getting that for me.

01:18:34.493 --> 01:18:35.495
[SPEAKER_00]: Triple H disease.

01:18:35.515 --> 01:18:36.376
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, what's next match?

01:18:37.177 --> 01:18:39.280
[SPEAKER_02]: All right, we, I think it's the tag match.

01:18:39.597 --> 01:18:40.138
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it is.

01:18:40.198 --> 01:18:50.296
[SPEAKER_00]: It's the this one is the one I'm probably looking for to the most as far as in ring action goes, all the main event will be good to sex a Virginia real way we will against you to ice and Oscar.

01:18:51.278 --> 01:18:55.986
[SPEAKER_00]: Jeremy, this one's looking like a title change to me and the reason I say that is just because they've.

01:18:55.966 --> 01:18:59.550
[SPEAKER_00]: already beaten these guys enough that it just seems strange to just do it again.

01:18:59.590 --> 01:19:10.182
[SPEAKER_00]: This could be the switch here to give Zack something to do to give Rio Hay something figuring, you know, ice and Oscar can always bounce back into that picture at any time.

01:19:10.302 --> 01:19:12.064
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm kind of predicting a title change here.

01:19:13.086 --> 01:19:19.953
[SPEAKER_00]: Just so it's not something like three or four in a row for you to ice and Oscar over these kids.

01:19:19.973 --> 01:19:23.998
[SPEAKER_02]: I have a hard time betting against the knock-up

01:19:24.181 --> 01:19:25.203
[SPEAKER_02]: They're just the main.

01:19:25.683 --> 01:19:32.073
[SPEAKER_02]: If they're a team that should have the title, and shouldn't be knocking out all cameras for a while, it should be you know like an Oscar.

01:19:32.534 --> 01:19:35.558
[SPEAKER_02]: And honestly, if they got a pin on that camera junior, it would make them.

01:19:36.460 --> 01:19:42.529
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, not real hell, but actually like pinning if that camera junior in a big match, you see them doing that?

01:19:42.830 --> 01:19:43.110
[SPEAKER_00]: I know.

01:19:45.073 --> 01:19:47.016
[SPEAKER_02]: Would you be shocked if they did?

01:19:47.283 --> 01:19:50.467
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, kind of if they pins that I think you can do kind of shocked.

01:19:50.487 --> 01:19:53.451
[SPEAKER_02]: It just says that like they're going at their they're getting behind me.

01:19:53.471 --> 01:19:57.577
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I guess, but I guess I don't have faith in New Japan to get behind anybody.

01:19:57.797 --> 01:19:57.957
[SPEAKER_02]: Sure.

01:19:58.218 --> 01:19:59.259
[SPEAKER_02]: That's fair.

01:19:59.800 --> 01:20:06.449
[SPEAKER_02]: But everything that I've seen in Rio, hey, we was like protect this guy and that table.

01:20:07.410 --> 01:20:10.995
[SPEAKER_02]: If the choice is right now, I would pick that Saber Jr.

01:20:11.482 --> 01:20:15.670
[SPEAKER_02]: Like he can eat a walk at a tag match like this, and it would protect you.

01:20:15.690 --> 01:20:19.497
[SPEAKER_02]: You, uh, and it would make the knockout brothers will keep it stronger than they are now.

01:20:20.098 --> 01:20:27.032
[SPEAKER_00]: I think I'm going to switch it here just some of these things, but it's because they've done they've beaten Zack and and, uh, oh, we were before.

01:20:27.272 --> 01:20:29.637
[SPEAKER_02]: But have they picked it back?

01:20:29.657 --> 01:20:31.380
[SPEAKER_00]: No, but I don't think they're going to.

01:20:34.094 --> 01:20:37.338
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe I'm wrong if I'm wrong if they did, it would be pretty cool.

01:20:37.538 --> 01:20:38.058
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's all.

01:20:38.078 --> 01:20:38.178
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

01:20:38.199 --> 01:20:40.301
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's like there are two scenarios here.

01:20:40.321 --> 01:20:49.731
[SPEAKER_02]: The one that you suggested in the one that, you know, after I was the knockout brother, went and the knockout brother, went what needed to be different about this win.

01:20:49.891 --> 01:20:50.172
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

01:20:50.272 --> 01:20:50.772
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:20:50.792 --> 01:20:51.093
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:20:51.113 --> 01:20:51.793
[SPEAKER_00]: No, I agree with you.

01:20:51.834 --> 01:20:52.574
[SPEAKER_00]: I agree with you on that.

01:20:52.614 --> 01:20:55.037
[SPEAKER_00]: I wouldn't even mind if they did it.

01:20:55.077 --> 01:20:56.318
[SPEAKER_00]: I just don't have faith in them to do it.

01:20:56.639 --> 01:20:56.919
[SPEAKER_00]: Great.

01:20:57.420 --> 01:20:57.560
[SPEAKER_00]: Cool.

01:20:57.580 --> 01:20:58.301
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

01:20:58.321 --> 01:20:58.801
[SPEAKER_00]: Main event.

01:20:58.961 --> 01:20:59.682
[SPEAKER_00]: World heavyweight time.

01:20:59.762 --> 01:21:01.384
[SPEAKER_00]: Now until.

01:21:01.364 --> 01:21:05.188
[SPEAKER_00]: Last week or so, I was very, very confident Yota Suji was winning this one.

01:21:05.328 --> 01:21:10.853
[SPEAKER_00]: So Yota Suji versus Calam Numan for the IWGP championship, I still think he's the favorite.

01:21:11.013 --> 01:21:28.570
[SPEAKER_00]: I still think Suji is likely to come out of this, but looking back at the history of New Japan, especially with ghetto booking, especially with Calam Numan signing a longer term contract, especially with Will Osprey in the building.

01:21:30.001 --> 01:21:31.723
[SPEAKER_00]: This puts a lot of doubt in my mind.

01:21:31.964 --> 01:21:35.909
[SPEAKER_00]: Geto loves to put a foreigner as the world champion.

01:21:35.949 --> 01:21:37.030
[SPEAKER_00]: He did it with AJ.

01:21:37.771 --> 01:21:39.293
[SPEAKER_00]: He did it with Kenny, of course.

01:21:39.313 --> 01:21:41.937
[SPEAKER_00]: But he also did it with Naito.

01:21:41.957 --> 01:21:46.383
[SPEAKER_00]: When a lot of people didn't think Naito was going to do it, he had interference come in and he beat Okada.

01:21:46.403 --> 01:21:50.428
[SPEAKER_00]: When a lot of people, again, imagine that Okada was going to steam roll through Naito.

01:21:51.229 --> 01:21:55.595
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that was when Sanada debuted and interfered in the match, I think.

01:21:56.616 --> 01:21:59.400
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not under oath on that.

01:21:59.380 --> 01:22:05.867
[SPEAKER_00]: Remember AJ got the switch back and forth that one year or so that AJ was in the company.

01:22:06.568 --> 01:22:08.530
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's happened before.

01:22:09.050 --> 01:22:11.233
[SPEAKER_00]: He likes to push a top foreign heel.

01:22:12.654 --> 01:22:20.222
[SPEAKER_00]: What if Calum Newman did win this thing and then look to the outside, will Osprey, you know, this is my United Empire now and you're not a part of it.

01:22:21.544 --> 01:22:24.527
[SPEAKER_00]: This would be the opportunity to kick will out after will.

01:22:25.486 --> 01:22:33.337
[SPEAKER_00]: shows his support back at New Year's Dash, then does it again earlier in the night, comes into the ring even to congratulate him and gets turned out.

01:22:34.499 --> 01:22:35.641
[SPEAKER_00]: I could see something like that.

01:22:35.901 --> 01:22:37.784
[SPEAKER_00]: So all these scenarios went through my mind.

01:22:38.405 --> 01:22:44.153
[SPEAKER_00]: At the same time, I could also see that Newman might be a guy where they decide.

01:22:44.639 --> 01:22:47.763
[SPEAKER_00]: This is the reward, getting this match, winning the cup.

01:22:47.943 --> 01:22:49.485
[SPEAKER_00]: That's the elevation.

01:22:50.046 --> 01:22:52.529
[SPEAKER_00]: And he doesn't need to be elevated all the way to the world title.

01:22:52.549 --> 01:22:53.771
[SPEAKER_00]: He's had his elevation.

01:22:54.251 --> 01:22:57.035
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's sushi that we want to cement as the champion.

01:22:58.096 --> 01:23:09.651
[SPEAKER_00]: I can see both sides of this until a couple of weeks ago, before the Willow spray match was announced, I would have said that sushi was definitely winning this, but I can kind of see now, but I'm kind of,

01:23:09.783 --> 01:23:11.825
[SPEAKER_00]: mentally flipping a coin is to who's going to win?

01:23:11.905 --> 01:23:13.567
[SPEAKER_00]: Where are your thoughts on this one, Jeremy?

01:23:13.787 --> 01:23:15.449
[SPEAKER_00]: Or did I just talk myself into this?

01:23:17.011 --> 01:23:23.798
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I'll be honest, I never really felt like Yoda Thudry was going to lose this match.

01:23:24.299 --> 01:23:34.930
[SPEAKER_02]: Regardless of all the scenarios, I will just wondering how you get out of this match with Callon Newman looking better for losing.

01:23:35.146 --> 01:23:36.588
[SPEAKER_00]: Right, that's the challenge, isn't it?

01:23:37.049 --> 01:23:39.112
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's the challenge if they beat them.

01:23:39.132 --> 01:23:43.859
[SPEAKER_02]: To me, I think we'll all spray if they get out of jail, free card here.

01:23:44.460 --> 01:23:58.460
[SPEAKER_02]: Where if we will seconding him in this match and something happens in the match where it's clear that Calm got this, he's winning this match and he's gonna become the new IWGP champion.

01:23:59.141 --> 01:23:59.922
[SPEAKER_02]: But

01:24:00.053 --> 01:24:14.232
[SPEAKER_02]: either will tell him to do something or he just hesitate by listening to Will for a one a bit too long and Yoda Fuji like pulled it out in the end and then Calon Newman has a reason right then and there to say

01:24:15.764 --> 01:24:16.505
[SPEAKER_02]: I had it.

01:24:16.525 --> 01:24:21.150
[SPEAKER_02]: I know I had this and you let me down and then I put this into overdrive.

01:24:21.590 --> 01:24:22.031
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:24:22.051 --> 01:24:26.296
[SPEAKER_00]: And really, will doesn't even have to interfere or have anything to do with it.

01:24:26.316 --> 01:24:29.299
[SPEAKER_00]: Just it was just the belief that Calvin has did well.

01:24:29.319 --> 01:24:29.599
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:24:30.020 --> 01:24:30.400
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:24:30.480 --> 01:24:34.925
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, what if he's out there seconding him and not interfering with what United Empire usually does?

01:24:35.706 --> 01:24:38.729
[SPEAKER_00]: And Newman gets within a whisper and loses.

01:24:39.170 --> 01:24:43.915
[SPEAKER_00]: And then the first thing he sees when he kind of quote unquote wakes up

01:24:43.895 --> 01:24:49.401
[SPEAKER_00]: The gene blast or whatever thing like that is will Osprey helping him up and he's just like, oh, screw this.

01:24:50.022 --> 01:24:57.610
[SPEAKER_00]: And what if he lays out Osprey afterwards and just says, oh, you know, Osprey, hey, you know, he looks at this guy.

01:24:57.630 --> 01:24:58.892
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, this guy won the world title.

01:24:58.912 --> 01:25:01.194
[SPEAKER_00]: And I just lost right in front of him, the hell with this dude.

01:25:01.735 --> 01:25:09.143
[SPEAKER_02]: There will be a mechanism to

01:25:09.258 --> 01:25:11.761
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that could be that could be the play right there.

01:25:11.801 --> 01:25:26.722
[SPEAKER_00]: I just, again, going back to when they have done switches and times like this, I don't think you can discount it, but I agree with you that maybe the better play would be to set Newman off to Osprey now, Suji looking like a strong champion.

01:25:26.922 --> 01:25:35.974
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm in favor of giving Suji a bunch of title defenses to really cement him as champion and

01:25:35.954 --> 01:25:40.082
[SPEAKER_00]: Especially if you have something for Newman to do immediately afterwards, it would have some heat.

01:25:41.164 --> 01:25:42.045
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe that's the play.

01:25:42.486 --> 01:25:48.738
[SPEAKER_00]: Again, just looking at Geto's history, you can't throw away the idea of the foreign menus winning.

01:25:49.159 --> 01:25:50.261
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he loves that.

01:25:50.341 --> 01:25:54.709
[SPEAKER_02]: And loves to do that for the last month where I've said, yeah, I really don't think it's going to happen.

01:25:54.749 --> 01:25:56.713
[SPEAKER_02]: And then Kyle Newman wins again.

01:25:56.693 --> 01:25:59.578
[SPEAKER_00]: So, uh, I've been going to roll it out.

01:25:59.598 --> 01:26:02.262
[SPEAKER_00]: Evil coming off the cup wins the title.

01:26:02.282 --> 01:26:04.706
[SPEAKER_00]: Sonata coming off the cup wins title.

01:26:04.766 --> 01:26:06.829
[SPEAKER_00]: It's really, you know, it's to do this.

01:26:06.870 --> 01:26:11.417
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's a don't think it's the right play to the green.

01:26:13.020 --> 01:26:15.924
[SPEAKER_02]: To defang your champion right now.

01:26:15.944 --> 01:26:16.806
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, right.

01:26:16.826 --> 01:26:20.472
[SPEAKER_02]: We all you're doing is trying to build him up as the guy.

01:26:20.993 --> 01:26:22.515
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, you know, like, yeah.

01:26:22.613 --> 01:26:25.316
[SPEAKER_00]: It's just because Newman does have something to do.

01:26:26.017 --> 01:26:27.619
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, that would have steam on it.

01:26:27.659 --> 01:26:27.940
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

01:26:28.480 --> 01:26:35.309
[SPEAKER_02]: There you want Yoda's surgery to be undefeated going into the G1, all of these things weren't like momentum.

01:26:35.329 --> 01:26:38.593
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, come here to offer this guy and come here to get a chance to like beat him.

01:26:39.674 --> 01:26:50.848
[SPEAKER_02]: But they're dark the story they need to tell and they've been very confident and very strong in pushing Calumnum and they have him for three years.

01:26:50.828 --> 01:26:52.911
[SPEAKER_02]: right, they have him for a while.

01:26:53.391 --> 01:26:58.799
[SPEAKER_02]: I think we'll offer a mechanism to get him to the next level and not the IWGP.

01:26:59.199 --> 01:27:13.258
[SPEAKER_02]: I think the IWGP is separately needed to be used to get you to food you to the next level concurrently and you have two mechanisms to elevate two different guys without having to like kneecap one or the other.

01:27:14.825 --> 01:27:18.631
[SPEAKER_00]: After Sakura Genesis on Saturday, by the way, we basically get two weeks off.

01:27:18.671 --> 01:27:29.567
[SPEAKER_00]: There's a death vagus invitation, a part of the WrestleMania weekend thing, a show that's not really part of the New Japan canon so much that goes on on Thursday, April 16th.

01:27:29.627 --> 01:27:37.018
[SPEAKER_02]: But the next true New Japan show, we could watch it and do a watch along it and we watch the

01:27:38.551 --> 01:27:43.660
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I mean, we're after this, it's again, until Sunday April 19th, that's, that's really it.

01:27:43.740 --> 01:27:48.868
[SPEAKER_02]: And so it's, I think our show is on at the same time that the death match will be on.

01:27:49.369 --> 01:27:50.711
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's it.

01:27:50.732 --> 01:27:51.092
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:27:51.112 --> 01:27:51.333
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

01:27:51.433 --> 01:27:54.378
[SPEAKER_02]: So we can just talk about to show everything happening.

01:27:54.678 --> 01:27:56.982
[SPEAKER_02]: You put it on the background.

01:27:56.962 --> 01:28:04.492
[SPEAKER_00]: That's I've take our epic code about the club date because the death match if it's on we can do a watch along that's not a terrible idea That's not a double like it.

01:28:04.913 --> 01:28:05.834
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we should think about that.

01:28:05.874 --> 01:28:10.059
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, we'll see if the the the time lines up with our live show Things up there.

01:28:10.079 --> 01:28:17.089
[SPEAKER_02]: There's not a whole lot of other content going on go Whatever sure We ever get that patreon together.

01:28:17.109 --> 01:28:18.050
[SPEAKER_00]: We should do some watch along.

01:28:18.070 --> 01:28:18.511
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like that.

01:28:18.551 --> 01:28:25.500
[SPEAKER_02]: It should be good time There are people that reach out to me and give me all of these ideas for watch along to stuff like that like

01:28:26.020 --> 01:28:29.406
[SPEAKER_02]: There's not my bread and butter, but I don't know.

01:28:29.446 --> 01:28:30.448
[SPEAKER_02]: The right thing to go on.

01:28:32.111 --> 01:28:35.237
[SPEAKER_00]: OK, so keep an eye out for Saccharogenesis.

01:28:35.858 --> 01:28:37.261
[SPEAKER_00]: Potential for some interesting stuff.

01:28:37.642 --> 01:28:38.383
[SPEAKER_00]: We keep saying that.

01:28:38.744 --> 01:28:39.645
[SPEAKER_00]: They keep under delivering.

01:28:39.686 --> 01:28:40.687
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's hope we get a little better.

01:28:40.707 --> 01:28:42.791
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm hoping they get a nice crowd at Simo Hall.

01:28:43.513 --> 01:28:49.564
[SPEAKER_00]: It'll be a nice, it'll be a limit test to where the company is, so to speak right now.

01:28:50.438 --> 01:28:52.882
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you can say new beginning was a big show.

01:28:52.902 --> 01:28:54.865
[SPEAKER_00]: This feels like a bit of a bigger show.

01:28:54.885 --> 01:28:56.628
[SPEAKER_00]: Does this feel like bigger than new beginning to you?

01:28:57.109 --> 01:28:57.850
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that does.

01:28:58.211 --> 01:28:58.752
[SPEAKER_00]: No, it does.

01:28:59.353 --> 01:28:59.813
[SPEAKER_00]: Same size.

01:29:00.074 --> 01:29:00.795
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, maybe that's it.

01:29:00.915 --> 01:29:02.658
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe that's it.

01:29:02.678 --> 01:29:05.783
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I guess we're not going to get a real spike in anything until Dominion.

01:29:05.803 --> 01:29:11.673
[SPEAKER_02]: I think I feel like we're between third and fourth gear with the promotion right now.

01:29:12.454 --> 01:29:12.514
[UNKNOWN]: OK.

01:29:13.135 --> 01:29:14.338
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, no, I see your point.

01:29:14.418 --> 01:29:19.953
[SPEAKER_00]: I, I was thinking maybe it's just a little bit bigger than new beginning, but I looking back at the card and new beginning.

01:29:19.993 --> 01:29:20.896
[SPEAKER_00]: It's about equal.

01:29:21.056 --> 01:29:21.297
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:29:21.317 --> 01:29:21.577
[SPEAKER_02]: All right.

01:29:21.597 --> 01:29:29.338
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you basically take Gabe kid and then draw it out, put the cash in, we'll ask for in, and then basically with the same level of card.

01:29:30.027 --> 01:29:31.450
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, okay.

01:29:31.470 --> 01:29:31.671
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

01:29:31.691 --> 01:29:33.595
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, we'll go with about the same about the same.

01:29:33.615 --> 01:29:39.007
[SPEAKER_00]: But hopefully we'll have a planning talk about next week when we come back, of course, we'll we'll know the full lineup for SuperGeneres.

01:29:39.288 --> 01:29:46.785
[SPEAKER_00]: We'll discuss what happened at, uh, Saccharogenesis and, uh, be looking ahead to other things, including WrestleMania weekend.

01:29:47.186 --> 01:29:47.867
[SPEAKER_00]: So,

01:29:47.847 --> 01:29:53.497
[SPEAKER_00]: With that, I want to thank everybody that joined us here, Nick, thanks for being here, Colin, glad you're back with us live.

01:29:53.537 --> 01:29:58.866
[SPEAKER_00]: Fernando was here for a little while, Esteban, U.S. VA guy, glad to see all of you.

01:29:58.906 --> 01:29:59.728
[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you, everybody.

01:30:00.229 --> 01:30:03.274
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I love to see you all day weekend if you celebrate.

01:30:04.098 --> 01:30:11.118
[SPEAKER_00]: And if you join us live or whether you're listening to us later, we're very grateful for your time.

01:30:11.258 --> 01:30:12.361
[SPEAKER_00]: Colin has one last thing.

01:30:12.381 --> 01:30:16.994
[SPEAKER_00]: He says, did I see that Kotosakura was that Japanese Grand Prix and he presented a prize?

01:30:17.014 --> 01:30:17.576
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, I did.

01:30:17.636 --> 01:30:19.120
[SPEAKER_00]: And not only that.

01:30:19.100 --> 01:30:29.331
[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't know if you saw this, Kota Zakura is an Ozeki with a sumo, one of the top-level sumo guys, and he showed up at the Formula One race, presenting one of the trophies.

01:30:29.892 --> 01:30:34.597
[SPEAKER_00]: And not only that, he had dinner with Shingo Takagi earlier that week, popped up on Shingo's socials.

01:30:34.637 --> 01:30:39.282
[SPEAKER_00]: I always love it when the sumo guys and the pro wrestlers cross paths.

01:30:39.842 --> 01:30:47.250
[SPEAKER_00]: It always entertains me those two worlds colliding in the weird way that they do sometimes.

01:30:47.230 --> 01:30:51.875
[SPEAKER_00]: One of the only times you get to see the sumo guys smile because they're always so stoic is when they're doing other stuff.

01:30:51.895 --> 01:30:55.379
[SPEAKER_00]: But you got to see code of zackers smiling and having dinner with shingo.

01:30:55.500 --> 01:31:07.734
[SPEAKER_02]: So speaking of crocking world, Stephen, I've got a comic book in which Spider Man and Superman team up and there are different worlds and now they're the comic book in which they team up and fight crime together.

01:31:09.836 --> 01:31:10.777
[SPEAKER_00]: Be still my beating heart.

01:31:11.338 --> 01:31:15.583
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, we're talking about crocking over stuff and you got nerdy

01:31:15.884 --> 01:31:16.765
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, that's valid.

01:31:16.785 --> 01:31:17.246
[SPEAKER_00]: That's fine.

01:31:17.266 --> 01:31:17.487
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

01:31:17.887 --> 01:31:25.058
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, for me, the one sumo and new Japan all coming to get a talk about Cooperative Spider-Man, if you're talking about for me, I'll want to talk about.

01:31:25.539 --> 01:31:26.280
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, I guess I did.

01:31:26.320 --> 01:31:26.981
[SPEAKER_00]: I guess I did.

01:31:27.002 --> 01:31:27.943
[SPEAKER_02]: First of all, they're my friend.

01:31:28.844 --> 01:31:30.707
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I'm choosing to look at the good side of things today.

01:31:30.848 --> 01:31:32.691
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's how opposite day this really is.

01:31:34.113 --> 01:31:36.176
[SPEAKER_00]: For Jeremy Feistown, this is Steven Conway.

01:31:36.276 --> 01:31:38.059
[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you all very much for spending your time with us.

01:31:38.119 --> 01:31:40.002
[SPEAKER_00]: We will talk to you again real soon.