Nov. 5, 2025
National Champ News, Trios Title Defense & B&G | The Dynamite Show

Paul Fontaine & Jeff Hawkins critique the Women's Blood and Guts build, then recap the National Champion announcement for Full Gear! Hear their take on The Opps retaining the AEW Trios Titles and Babes of Wrath advancing.
Find all our podcasts on our website: https://fightgamemedia.com
Follow us on Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/fightgamemedia
Subscribe to our YouTube Page: https://www.youtube.com/c/FightGameMedia
Follow us on Instagram/Threads: https://www.instagram.com/fightgamemedia
Follow us on Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/fightgamemedia.com
Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands
Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
WEBVTT
00:00.031 --> 00:01.975
[SPEAKER_02]: Dino-ma!
00:10.038 --> 00:16.627
[SPEAKER_00]: Hey everybody, Paul Fontaine here with Jeff Hawkins on the Dynamite Show on the Fiky Media YouTube channel.
00:17.067 --> 00:27.581
[SPEAKER_00]: Check it in just after Dynamite ended and I'm in case if you're watching on video and I want to thank you all for listening on the Fiky Media audio feed as well and Thursday morning.
00:27.621 --> 00:35.572
[SPEAKER_00]: But if you're watching on video, you'll notice that I am not in my usual studio, which is actually just my home office.
00:36.193 --> 00:37.935
[SPEAKER_00]: I am in Las Vegas.
00:37.915 --> 00:43.588
[SPEAKER_00]: uh... in my hotel room actually pretty good lighting and it's not too bad so hopefully
00:43.822 --> 00:48.366
[SPEAKER_00]: It's better than the last time I did the show remotely, where I was in the lobby of a hotel.
00:49.267 --> 00:50.868
[SPEAKER_00]: People wandering around by me.
00:51.929 --> 00:53.851
[SPEAKER_00]: It's actually, I got a nice room here at New York, New York.
00:54.692 --> 00:57.034
[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, and it's been a fun trip.
00:57.494 --> 01:00.417
[SPEAKER_00]: I was just telling Jeff off air.
01:01.538 --> 01:05.642
[SPEAKER_00]: I was on just an amazing run at the Black Jack table.
01:06.642 --> 01:09.645
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm telling the people, they're surprised I had to leave.
01:09.665 --> 01:11.787
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, well, I got to go watch wrestling.
01:11.767 --> 01:17.194
[SPEAKER_00]: And they're like, and I'm wearing an AEW shirt, as you can see, you know, oh, you know what, I'm wearing.
01:18.475 --> 01:19.577
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, look at that.
01:19.597 --> 01:22.460
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, three woulda paid jets, nothing.
01:23.361 --> 01:24.783
[SPEAKER_00]: Really, I didn't even know.
01:24.803 --> 01:25.965
[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't watch the game.
01:26.525 --> 01:29.289
[SPEAKER_00]: I got an alert on my phone saying that the game was close.
01:30.150 --> 01:30.931
[SPEAKER_00]: It was like one run.
01:30.971 --> 01:33.054
[SPEAKER_00]: So why did you guys get a couple empty neck holes or what?
01:34.495 --> 01:35.396
[SPEAKER_01]: We got one at the end.
01:35.457 --> 01:37.259
[SPEAKER_01]: It was too nothing in the end.
01:37.279 --> 01:37.379
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
01:37.399 --> 01:37.619
[SPEAKER_01]: Nothing.
01:37.639 --> 01:38.280
[SPEAKER_01]: I believe.
01:38.868 --> 01:44.638
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so I'm sitting there and and again, like they don't even have a clue what I'm talking about.
01:44.678 --> 01:48.704
[SPEAKER_00]: Like when I say I'm going to watch wrestling like they is WWE on tonight.
01:48.965 --> 01:49.846
[SPEAKER_01]: Not even that.
01:49.906 --> 01:51.068
[SPEAKER_01]: Is it SmackDown?
01:51.569 --> 01:55.616
[SPEAKER_00]: They thought I was talking about like, you know, like amateur wrestling.
01:55.816 --> 01:58.260
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, like they have no idea.
01:58.240 --> 02:17.045
[SPEAKER_00]: people don't understand like I didn't get a one go on hold on hold on why would you ever say it in public anyways I'm going to watch for wrestling No, there's like three people at the block right there's a shame you don't do that But I walked around all day in the shirt and I didn't get one comment like Actually, that's not true.
02:17.185 --> 02:21.531
[SPEAKER_00]: I did have a dealer asked me have you ever come to Vegas to see the wrestling shows
02:21.511 --> 02:25.598
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and I said, and I said, yeah, I come a lot to C.A.
02:25.979 --> 02:28.763
[SPEAKER_00]: W. And he's like, oh, that's WrestleMania, right?
02:28.824 --> 02:34.574
[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, no, I didn't give him the rest of it.
02:34.694 --> 02:37.699
[SPEAKER_00]: And that was the only notice that the shirt got.
02:37.799 --> 02:40.684
[SPEAKER_00]: And I wasn't like I was just sitting in my hotel room.
02:41.103 --> 02:44.912
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, so, uh, John's asking how Vegas is it's not dead.
02:45.193 --> 02:46.236
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, there's a lot of people here.
02:46.276 --> 02:53.373
[SPEAKER_00]: There's a, I think they had some tournament going on that in college basketball yesterday, because there's a reason to use an tournament up there.
02:53.413 --> 02:56.561
[SPEAKER_01]: I believe, or maybe it's just start of the season term.
02:56.581 --> 02:59.027
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, we're just getting into,
02:59.007 --> 03:09.626
[SPEAKER_01]: We're not quite in holiday tournament season yet, because I went up there for one a couple of years ago, because that's usually right around Thanksgiving or the week before Thanksgiving, but we're getting close.
03:09.646 --> 03:21.167
[SPEAKER_01]: We're in that silly season of games that don't really matter, and it's big schools playing small schools for the most part, because like UVA just played writer.
03:21.147 --> 03:22.248
[SPEAKER_01]: Last night.
03:22.449 --> 03:23.810
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so that the UBA.
03:23.870 --> 03:28.677
[SPEAKER_00]: I think was there was a ton of people here with those jerseys and sport in that school.
03:29.438 --> 03:33.283
[SPEAKER_00]: So I think I think that was the or did you say UVA.
03:34.124 --> 03:34.945
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, my school.
03:35.465 --> 03:37.228
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I don't know wasn't your school.
03:37.328 --> 03:38.669
[SPEAKER_01]: That was in Charlotte.
03:38.770 --> 03:40.692
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I didn't know this is something else.
03:40.874 --> 03:58.461
[SPEAKER_00]: And then they had, and then there was a red wings game yesterday, so there's a ton of red wings fans here to see that, but yeah, so this game I was going to tell you about it's called double down madness and it's black Jack, but you can double on each card.
03:58.441 --> 04:06.951
[SPEAKER_00]: So the dealer, so you get a 10 and the dealer shows a card that you think you can beat with a 10, you can double on your first card.
04:07.091 --> 04:10.456
[SPEAKER_00]: Then you get your second card and if you like it again, you could double again.
04:10.976 --> 04:17.284
[SPEAKER_00]: So if the dealer has like a six, you're going to double on every card and you keep doubling your original bet.
04:18.165 --> 04:22.390
[SPEAKER_00]: And then the other thing is if you get a blockjack, they pay you on your double.
04:22.589 --> 04:28.298
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, and it's uh, and they also pay you two to one on your black jacket if it's suited.
04:28.799 --> 04:30.361
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's this game isn't sane.
04:31.183 --> 04:36.431
[SPEAKER_01]: And it sounds like they took Mississippi stud and decided to turn it into blackjack in some way.
04:36.631 --> 04:37.813
[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, no, no, no.
04:37.853 --> 04:39.276
[SPEAKER_00]: Have you ever played Mississippi stud?
04:40.037 --> 04:42.100
[SPEAKER_00]: I've played it, but I don't remember it.
04:42.080 --> 04:48.987
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, you get two whole cards and then you can bet on each street after the river if you have a certain amount of time.
04:49.007 --> 04:55.152
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's and yeah, there's another game that's called there's another game that's like the reverse of that.
04:55.513 --> 04:57.475
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like four card poker or something.
04:57.915 --> 04:59.797
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's like the reverse of Mississippi stood.
05:00.057 --> 05:02.159
[SPEAKER_00]: So anyways, yeah, I would have a lot of fun with this game.
05:02.219 --> 05:08.425
[SPEAKER_00]: And and I was on just a major run and then I had to leave to come watch dynamite and then do this show.
05:08.405 --> 05:23.258
[SPEAKER_00]: And then the other thing, so I'm watching Dynamite, and I started about 15 minutes in, and I'm watching a trailer, so I'm skipping the commercials, and then it was alive, and I'm like, okay, I'll just switch on to TV, and then I go to TV.
05:24.082 --> 05:31.551
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll tell you how out of the no, a lot of wrestling is my brother as you might recall my brother for Christmas.
05:31.631 --> 05:51.294
[SPEAKER_01]: I believe last year bought me a bunch of Rick Flair stuff with the with the with the giant cardboard cut out that still in my mother's house down there and a and a Funko pop of Flair what not he offered to get me the ugly Christmas sweaters of Rick Flair this year and I keep telling him no don't do that.
05:51.414 --> 05:53.076
[SPEAKER_01]: He's been canceled.
05:53.056 --> 05:58.762
[SPEAKER_01]: Of course, he sarcastically kind of goes, nobody gets semi-cancel in my America.
06:00.804 --> 06:03.247
[SPEAKER_01]: He's such a weapon tool.
06:03.467 --> 06:08.092
[SPEAKER_01]: I love him to death, but he hasn't even heard of any of this stuff that happened to Flare.
06:08.112 --> 06:12.256
[SPEAKER_01]: He just knows that he used to be a horseman when we were kids and stuff like that.
06:12.416 --> 06:20.565
[SPEAKER_01]: So, the Flare, I'll make you wear this sweater, I go, if I wear this sweater anywhere, I get killed by people, Chris, don't do that to me.
06:20.545 --> 06:23.710
[SPEAKER_00]: Most people don't even remember, don't even know the Hogan stuff.
06:23.991 --> 06:27.237
[SPEAKER_00]: And their stuff is like one tenth of that.
06:27.878 --> 06:28.519
[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
06:28.899 --> 06:30.001
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, maybe not one tenth.
06:30.402 --> 06:31.063
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe half.
06:31.684 --> 06:32.986
[SPEAKER_00]: If I'm being, if I'm being gentle.
06:33.006 --> 06:36.913
[SPEAKER_01]: Now a lot more people know the Hogan stuff mostly because he went and spoke, right?
06:37.073 --> 06:39.718
[SPEAKER_01]: R&C in 2024.
06:39.901 --> 06:42.806
[SPEAKER_00]: And because, you know, in that loss, you've got a lot of publicity.
06:43.026 --> 06:49.397
[SPEAKER_01]: Where is the plane ride from hell did not for the moment?
06:49.417 --> 07:01.318
[SPEAKER_00]: No, I think 138,000 people watch on VICE, which is about how many are watching collision these days, which brings us to if you're watching collision.
07:01.298 --> 07:26.614
[SPEAKER_00]: you found out as did the people in the match that there's going to be a women's blood and guts match and we talked about this last week and and I found it so funny because they they put out something on social media saying they're going to have an announcement about women's blood and guts and this was like I think Saturday afternoon or something and then
07:26.594 --> 07:39.647
[SPEAKER_00]: When the show started, they said, we're going to have a major announcement regarding a revamping of a major announcement regarding the format of this match and like what are they talking about?
07:39.667 --> 07:42.710
[SPEAKER_00]: Like they haven't even announced a match yet and they're already announcing changes to it.
07:43.371 --> 07:47.095
[SPEAKER_00]: And I guess the big announcement was, oh, it's going to be six on six.
07:48.256 --> 07:55.403
[SPEAKER_00]: And it very quickly dawned on me why it's six on six because if you look at the teams,
07:55.872 --> 08:02.357
[SPEAKER_00]: There are teams that are of people that were involved and were feuding and were all over these shows for the last three months.
08:03.822 --> 08:04.043
[SPEAKER_00]: And
08:05.086 --> 08:14.923
[SPEAKER_00]: And then you had Tony added on one side and Mercedes added on the other side and I'm sure it was the network came to them and said you're not doing this match unless you put some stars in it.
08:17.146 --> 08:30.469
[SPEAKER_01]: Like I think you know like otherwise this is a collision match right like all these other other wise all I think it is I have normal dialed my head and he got that's ratings death that's what I'll call this match.
08:30.449 --> 08:40.989
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but now you got, you know, you got Mercedes and Tony and yeah, and then, you know, and now all men out as out, mean as in, so that's probably, you know, I am sad about that.
08:41.470 --> 08:45.758
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, could you have imagined I'm an out at a blood and guts match?
08:45.738 --> 08:46.639
[SPEAKER_01]: Kill it.
08:46.879 --> 08:47.860
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, my amusement.
08:48.000 --> 08:52.484
[SPEAKER_01]: I am here for this, but I am also vastly disappointed.
08:52.544 --> 08:54.286
[SPEAKER_01]: And I told you this before we went on the air.
08:55.467 --> 09:13.483
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, instead of doing an angle and making some sort of storyline out of it, or you know, Oh, we cut the the heel team cuts a promo about what they're going to do to the rest of the baby faces once they get them inside two steel cages something something to titulate me a little bit.
09:13.463 --> 09:16.335
[SPEAKER_01]: Your average television viewer of wrestling.
09:17.041 --> 09:18.923
[SPEAKER_01]: Instead, it's the doctor took about.
09:18.943 --> 09:22.908
[SPEAKER_01]: So we just replaced it with, with Mina, which is a different kind of titillation.
09:23.169 --> 09:27.234
[SPEAKER_01]: But nevertheless, we move on with that terrible joke that I just made.
09:27.614 --> 09:34.583
[SPEAKER_00]: So the doctor is, yeah, box office boys, yes.
09:35.284 --> 09:41.732
[SPEAKER_00]: And they, and they also, well, no, you know what, well, I don't know if I should save this for the recap of the show.
09:41.993 --> 09:45.377
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I will, actually.
09:45.357 --> 10:07.399
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so they just and the other thing was that the okay, so we had the the challenge that was made I don't know what it was six weeks ago, maybe longer and it was Jamie Hayter said and she had queen and almond out of a cider and she challenged she said there's only one way to settle this plot and guts and everyone went yeah the way I'm getting a fucking next match
10:07.750 --> 10:12.899
[SPEAKER_00]: And then it was never mentioned again, and I shouldn't say never because occasionally they would bring it up.
10:13.680 --> 10:16.024
[SPEAKER_00]: They would say there's going to be a blood and guts match.
10:16.245 --> 10:17.306
[SPEAKER_00]: They wouldn't tell us who's in it.
10:18.268 --> 10:29.387
[SPEAKER_00]: And then at one point about three weeks ago, Excalibur started hammering home the fact that Aminata and Hater made the challenge, but it was not accepted.
10:29.553 --> 10:41.368
[SPEAKER_00]: And then at that point, they were also clearly building to a mens blood and guts match, so I foolishly assumed, no, no, they're they're changing plans and they're doing a men's instead of a women's and I'm like, okay, that's fine.
10:41.388 --> 10:42.009
[SPEAKER_00]: That makes sense.
10:42.370 --> 10:44.312
[SPEAKER_00]: They're already doing a women's tag team tournament.
10:44.332 --> 10:47.536
[SPEAKER_00]: They don't need to be doing a women's blood and guts match.
10:47.556 --> 10:52.543
[SPEAKER_00]: And then Saturday afternoon, they announced, oh, we're doing a women's blood and guts match.
10:53.664 --> 10:56.708
[SPEAKER_00]: And then today, they went into full gear.
10:56.890 --> 11:02.116
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, pun unintended actually promoting this as best they could.
11:02.156 --> 11:04.939
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, with, you know, a mat.
11:05.079 --> 11:09.023
[SPEAKER_00]: They have this goofy series of matches where you have to win two out of three.
11:09.103 --> 11:10.745
[SPEAKER_00]: I said, you know what, I'll take that back.
11:11.026 --> 11:12.027
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not a goofy series.
11:12.127 --> 11:12.988
[SPEAKER_00]: It's actually a cool idea.
11:13.708 --> 11:14.670
[SPEAKER_00]: Two out of three matches.
11:14.690 --> 11:18.414
[SPEAKER_00]: You got to win in order to get the man advantage or the woman advantage in the match.
11:18.494 --> 11:21.497
[SPEAKER_01]: I can kind of like make the coin flip great again.
11:22.203 --> 11:29.416
[SPEAKER_01]: Because it's a much easier road to go down, where you just flip, oh, you lost the coin flip, so the heels are going first.
11:29.737 --> 11:30.539
[SPEAKER_01]: That's all you need.
11:30.839 --> 11:34.005
[SPEAKER_01]: In fact, just make it heels go first because it's okay.
11:34.466 --> 11:38.854
[SPEAKER_00]: But I will say, I would say that I think there's a story to be told in the men's match.
11:39.535 --> 11:43.603
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm actually, yeah, I think Moxie's gonna lose.
11:43.769 --> 11:44.530
[SPEAKER_00]: I do too.
11:45.572 --> 11:45.752
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
11:45.932 --> 11:50.098
[SPEAKER_00]: And I mean, it doesn't work for the baby faces, but I think it does work for the deathwriters.
11:50.779 --> 11:52.341
[SPEAKER_00]: You have the man this advantage.
11:52.902 --> 11:58.570
[SPEAKER_00]: And then moxley be the one that cost his team because there's a story there with them not wanting him.
11:59.010 --> 12:01.253
[SPEAKER_00]: And you can also further that story into the women's match.
12:01.414 --> 12:12.409
[SPEAKER_00]: If Marina somehow gets the win for her team that, you know, now, okay, she won for her team, but mox ended up being the reason that the
12:12.811 --> 12:14.995
[SPEAKER_01]: Right, they should be telling that story harder, though.
12:15.335 --> 12:16.738
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, they're not even hinting at it.
12:17.359 --> 12:21.506
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's, if he's going to be the sabisco, make him the sabisco, man.
12:21.987 --> 12:24.731
[SPEAKER_00]: Why is, why is, uh, in storyline?
12:25.373 --> 12:27.656
[SPEAKER_00]: Why is Marine in this, in this button, that's match.
12:28.959 --> 12:30.702
[SPEAKER_01]: Because, uh, Penelope can't be.
12:32.184 --> 12:33.807
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, why was Penelope in the match?
12:34.951 --> 12:36.414
[SPEAKER_01]: because she's with Megan Bane.
12:37.335 --> 12:38.858
[SPEAKER_00]: Why is Megan Bane in the match?
12:39.579 --> 12:43.045
[SPEAKER_01]: Because they beat up Jamie Heater and I'm not a, oh no, no, no, no, no.
12:43.085 --> 12:45.930
[SPEAKER_00]: The answer to every one of these questions is because Renee announced it.
12:46.692 --> 12:47.473
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, that's true.
12:47.573 --> 12:48.274
[SPEAKER_01]: I know that.
12:48.294 --> 12:49.336
[SPEAKER_00]: I've tried this.
12:49.356 --> 12:53.924
[SPEAKER_00]: That is the reason, you know, because that was it, that pissed me off so much.
12:54.305 --> 12:56.689
[SPEAKER_00]: Because can you imagine if,
12:57.631 --> 13:01.658
[SPEAKER_00]: the instead of what they did last week, which, you know, some people liked it, some people did, and I thought it was fine.
13:02.399 --> 13:04.743
[SPEAKER_00]: Actually, I didn't hear anybody say they didn't like it.
13:05.223 --> 13:09.611
[SPEAKER_00]: The Mark Briscoe and Orange Cassie make in the challenge, you know, it's forgotten gut.
13:09.851 --> 13:15.901
[SPEAKER_00]: They actually made the challenge, and presumably the death rioters accepted, and you had your clearly defined teams.
13:16.402 --> 13:20.128
[SPEAKER_00]: You had the conglomeration and Darby, you had the death rioters.
13:20.783 --> 13:22.565
[SPEAKER_00]: And here, we didn't get a challenge.
13:22.606 --> 13:23.667
[SPEAKER_00]: We didn't get an exception.
13:23.727 --> 13:25.129
[SPEAKER_00]: We got an announcement.
13:25.610 --> 13:26.851
[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, we picked some teams.
13:27.873 --> 13:30.216
[SPEAKER_00]: And then tonight on Dynamite, oh, get this.
13:31.097 --> 13:33.180
[SPEAKER_00]: Because I'll probably forget this when we get to the recap.
13:33.380 --> 13:34.482
[SPEAKER_00]: And you probably didn't hear it.
13:35.023 --> 13:36.365
[SPEAKER_00]: Because I'm watching on Triller.
13:38.147 --> 13:42.113
[SPEAKER_00]: Supposedly, the storyline is, because Excalibur asked Tony this.
13:42.934 --> 13:47.500
[SPEAKER_00]: So what was your thought process in picking people for your team?
13:48.948 --> 13:53.814
[SPEAKER_00]: And then she says, oh, well, I called up Wendy Richter and she wasn't available.
13:54.835 --> 13:57.799
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, so I went with Mina and then she was like, of course, I picked Mina.
13:57.839 --> 13:59.962
[SPEAKER_00]: She's my, you know, and they did this thing about her.
14:00.002 --> 14:00.863
[SPEAKER_00]: She's my wife.
14:01.023 --> 14:02.165
[SPEAKER_01]: Shut up, it's caliber.
14:02.645 --> 14:14.280
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, but, but, so that the idea now is that Tony, who has was not even involved in this at all at any point ever, pick teams for blood and guts.
14:14.412 --> 14:22.314
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's the storyline, that's canon, but I guess you only know it if you watched on trailer.
14:22.334 --> 14:27.568
[SPEAKER_00]: So people that didn't that I would just watch on TBS probably a no idea what we're talking about.
14:27.688 --> 14:30.075
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I want to.
14:30.275 --> 14:34.319
[SPEAKER_01]: I want, I want, I, I like the stipulation for the Briscoe match.
14:34.539 --> 14:40.204
[SPEAKER_01]: I, I want, I want there to be a stipulation for blood and gut so that would mean something, but then again, I also want to build.
14:40.264 --> 14:41.265
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm not going to get that.
14:41.325 --> 14:45.729
[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't want the, the death writers need to break up if they lose type of a thing.
14:45.789 --> 14:50.873
[SPEAKER_00]: Did I call that, did I call that you didn't, did I call that you didn't reflect your briscoe?
14:50.893 --> 14:52.735
[SPEAKER_01]: I, uh, yes, you did, I believe.
14:53.335 --> 14:58.560
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I thought it was a good idea.
15:00.008 --> 15:03.275
[SPEAKER_00]: give me the transferring heat, transferring heat wins the internet today.
15:03.295 --> 15:06.060
[SPEAKER_00]: I think the winner button got to get a belt.
15:06.641 --> 15:08.405
[SPEAKER_00]: We're the blood and guts champion.
15:09.146 --> 15:09.427
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
15:09.447 --> 15:15.139
[SPEAKER_00]: And we're going to merge that with a TNT title or something, which brings us to our other story.
15:15.840 --> 15:16.361
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
15:16.381 --> 15:19.367
[SPEAKER_00]: Before we get into the recap, they opened up the show today.
15:20.309 --> 15:22.452
[SPEAKER_00]: with Tony Shavani in the ring announcing.
15:22.492 --> 15:26.258
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's a weird, because he did his twice, right?
15:27.080 --> 15:29.243
[SPEAKER_00]: He did two in ring announcements about this title.
15:29.303 --> 15:30.425
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, I wasn't imagining it.
15:30.746 --> 15:34.031
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, he was interrupted the first time by Joe.
15:34.752 --> 15:39.399
[SPEAKER_00]: So he had to act like a fact and redo the big announcement.
15:39.720 --> 15:40.181
[SPEAKER_00]: Gotcha.
15:40.421 --> 15:43.766
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, and that's another thing, but we'll say that one for the recap.
15:43.907 --> 15:47.312
[SPEAKER_00]: But they, and this is funny because I always talk about
15:47.292 --> 15:52.619
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, oh, you know, like, if you weren't on social media, you didn't know about this blah blah, but, but it mean me, my life was.
15:52.699 --> 15:55.363
[SPEAKER_00]: So I did, but I'm assuming that there's people that didn't.
15:56.544 --> 16:00.289
[SPEAKER_00]: I had no idea about this extra title until Tony mentioned it on television.
16:01.050 --> 16:02.512
[SPEAKER_01]: I had in the announcement.
16:02.853 --> 16:03.794
[SPEAKER_00]: So I would.
16:03.814 --> 16:04.695
[SPEAKER_00]: So it was new to you, too.
16:06.658 --> 16:06.978
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
16:07.058 --> 16:07.399
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
16:07.419 --> 16:08.220
[SPEAKER_01]: And it didn't.
16:08.240 --> 16:13.587
[SPEAKER_01]: So it wasn't, it wasn't to welcome announcement to me, but please go on.
16:13.887 --> 16:16.710
[SPEAKER_00]: No, so they announced another title.
16:17.050 --> 16:18.251
[SPEAKER_00]: It's going to be the national title.
16:19.612 --> 16:23.736
[SPEAKER_00]: It's going to be the first champion will be determined at full gear.
16:23.776 --> 16:29.762
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'll save how they're going to announce it when until we do the recap.
16:29.782 --> 16:33.465
[SPEAKER_00]: But because then he came out later and explained how the champion was going to be determined.
16:33.946 --> 16:41.633
[SPEAKER_00]: But I guess the idea behind this belt is it's going to be a belt, it's going to be defended, not only in AW, but in other companies that AW works with.
16:42.608 --> 16:46.714
[SPEAKER_00]: So theoretically, we've been doing this road.
16:47.595 --> 16:49.878
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's talk about the same idea here.
16:50.099 --> 16:51.641
[SPEAKER_01]: All Atlantic championship.
16:52.141 --> 16:52.943
[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.
16:52.963 --> 16:53.584
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
16:53.624 --> 16:54.445
[SPEAKER_01]: What we really need.
16:54.485 --> 16:54.665
[SPEAKER_01]: No.
16:54.745 --> 16:57.469
[SPEAKER_01]: See, guys, you guys are being far too modern.
16:57.990 --> 17:03.998
[SPEAKER_01]: What we need is now is the A-W-Bress Knuckles Championship and the A-W Western States Heritage Title.
17:04.138 --> 17:04.479
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
17:04.879 --> 17:06.101
[SPEAKER_00]: The Western Heritage.
17:06.542 --> 17:07.023
[SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely.
17:07.563 --> 17:10.928
[SPEAKER_01]: The National Title.
17:12.022 --> 17:25.845
[SPEAKER_01]: The national title was a title bought by Cracket when they bought the Georgia territory that had been around like only a couple years and was mostly for the spoiler before he jetted for WWF.
17:26.399 --> 17:29.162
[SPEAKER_01]: And then it came into the end of the way.
17:29.722 --> 17:31.764
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think three or four people held it.
17:31.924 --> 17:33.145
[SPEAKER_01]: The Wahoo held it.
17:33.586 --> 17:40.452
[SPEAKER_01]: It's infamously, it's most famous one when it had prestige was Tully, Tully had it for a while.
17:41.073 --> 17:43.736
[SPEAKER_01]: And then they get, and then eventually buddy Landel got it.
17:43.796 --> 17:49.261
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's when he got fired for using cocaine, the morning of a TV taping, and no showed.
17:50.162 --> 17:53.605
[SPEAKER_01]: And so they eventually, and then they put Valentine out.
17:54.209 --> 18:06.075
[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no
18:07.085 --> 18:09.388
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, wait, it goes way back to the early 80s.
18:09.428 --> 18:10.349
[SPEAKER_01]: I want to go that far back.
18:10.450 --> 18:11.671
[SPEAKER_01]: Austin, Idleyer, first one.
18:11.691 --> 18:32.940
[SPEAKER_01]: But famously in Georgia, it was like the super destroyer, orndorfe, mass super star, orndorfe, killer Jim Brooks, Larry Zabisco, vacated, Larry Zabisco, Mr. Wrestling 2, Larry Zabisco, Brett Sawyer, Ted DBSI, Brad Armstrong, the spoiler, Brad Armstrong, the spoiler, Ted DBSI, Ron Garvin,
18:33.848 --> 18:40.635
[SPEAKER_01]: And then it was, and then it was given to a black Bart, I remember him being the first one 85 to have it in crock it.
18:40.655 --> 18:47.442
[SPEAKER_01]: And then black Bart Terry Taylor, buddy landale dusty, Tully Wahoo, and then the key to co-off.
18:47.462 --> 18:55.871
[SPEAKER_01]: And then was deactivated until the late 90s when a bunch of geeks added and he mentioned Nikita in his promo.
18:55.891 --> 19:02.218
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, well, I mean, that was also the one where it was, I was unified with the US title at that, uh,
19:02.198 --> 19:02.638
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
19:02.939 --> 19:05.822
[SPEAKER_01]: So, I mean, that was a pretty good set of matches too.
19:05.962 --> 19:10.907
[SPEAKER_01]: I believe, was that the best of seven with Magnum to unify it?
19:11.087 --> 19:13.209
[SPEAKER_00]: Actually, yeah, I didn't watch it.
19:13.229 --> 19:15.672
[SPEAKER_01]: And so I think it was because it was 86.
19:15.832 --> 19:18.575
[SPEAKER_01]: So that sounds, that sounds about right.
19:18.595 --> 19:20.617
[SPEAKER_01]: It was the best of 70 unify the two titles.
19:21.458 --> 19:25.822
[SPEAKER_01]: But it's always kind of been a, it's their title.
19:26.223 --> 19:29.286
[SPEAKER_01]: It's, I mean, a lot of great wrestlers held it, but
19:29.266 --> 19:32.350
[SPEAKER_01]: But it didn't mean anything after 1986 for the most part.
19:32.430 --> 19:35.373
[SPEAKER_01]: So I mean, you're going way, way back in the air.
19:35.393 --> 19:40.920
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you could have dusted off the Western states here and Adri, you could have dusted off and you could have made up your own thing.
19:41.320 --> 19:42.141
[SPEAKER_01]: But let's face it.
19:42.201 --> 19:55.797
[SPEAKER_01]: This is for that ridiculous demand, hurts and to get feud, to give it some more meaning because we've already run it against each other five times.
19:55.777 --> 20:08.873
[SPEAKER_00]: I predicted as soon as the hurts in the kick came out and I put this in these show thread and I was the first one to say it You know, this on the fucking meter discord That Rick stays gonna be that first champion.
20:09.574 --> 20:20.527
[SPEAKER_01]: No No 100% yes, it's a I think it's a contractual obligation to give Bobby Lashley and AEW You think Bobby Lashley is going in touring.
20:20.567 --> 20:25.193
[SPEAKER_01]: No, I think he's gonna drop it before that first tour ever happens
20:25.527 --> 20:27.849
[SPEAKER_00]: I, I don't think so.
20:27.989 --> 20:29.731
[SPEAKER_00]: I because he doesn't have to lose this match.
20:30.371 --> 20:33.334
[SPEAKER_00]: I. I listen, you know what, you might be right.
20:33.394 --> 20:36.417
[SPEAKER_00]: It might be ricochet, but, but John agrees with you.
20:36.457 --> 20:37.958
[SPEAKER_00]: He thinks Bobby last year.
20:38.219 --> 20:44.304
[SPEAKER_00]: What he means when he says no Bobby last year, he means no comma Bobby last year, because no, he mentioned it in a thing.
20:44.324 --> 20:52.952
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but no, I think it'll be ricochet because I ricochets been everyone's given ricochet a hard time about the fact that he hasn't had any belts.
20:52.932 --> 20:53.934
[SPEAKER_00]: on Twitter.
20:54.034 --> 20:54.495
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
20:54.515 --> 21:01.228
[SPEAKER_01]: And so he can be King Ricochet or whatever with this title that'll eventually get merged with Jason's content.
21:01.248 --> 21:02.811
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's correct opinion here.
21:03.292 --> 21:04.995
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think that tour ever happened.
21:05.015 --> 21:05.797
[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no.
21:05.937 --> 21:10.165
[SPEAKER_01]: It'll get defended in other companies and by other companies, I mean ring of honor.
21:11.275 --> 21:27.909
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, I don't think it's going up there like defy or it's a new Japan Navy, you know, New Japan did announce a US show their first one in a long time coming in New Jersey I believe in January.
21:28.229 --> 21:32.558
[SPEAKER_00]: So I can see Rick and Shay on that show if he wins a belt or whoever wins a belt
21:34.394 --> 21:52.430
[SPEAKER_00]: Because because New Japan doesn't have enough silly belts with like the never open white championship, although there is some there is some stuff I've heard going on with Tony Khan and and his partner and people aren't terribly happy about things going on now.
21:53.331 --> 21:55.693
[SPEAKER_01]: Is there anything you will wait till after the show will tell.
21:55.713 --> 21:57.615
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, no, no, no, I can talk about this.
21:57.655 --> 22:04.401
[SPEAKER_00]: I think some of it's public just you know like Tony like I think there's some.
22:04.381 --> 22:18.521
[SPEAKER_00]: The Nakamura rumors part of it, I think, and then the Cechto Cata, you know, like, I think there's, you know, there may be somebody wants to match here, somebody wants to match there, somebody doesn't want somebody to lose, you know, like that sort of thing.
22:19.222 --> 22:28.195
[SPEAKER_00]: And you recall last year when John Moxley had the world title for New Japan, he had a scheduled title defense.
22:28.293 --> 22:37.278
[SPEAKER_00]: coming up in Japan and Tony Khan randomly on a Monday announced, oh, there's a power of hobs, jaw moxie match that's happening on Wednesday.
22:37.298 --> 22:43.635
[SPEAKER_00]: We're making it for the IWGP title and they got pissed because it's like we don't do that with our title.
22:43.615 --> 22:45.618
[SPEAKER_00]: And Tony just didn't anyways.
22:46.940 --> 22:50.484
[SPEAKER_00]: And so it's not all rosy in there.
22:50.524 --> 23:04.003
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I mean, I'm not saying the relation is falling apart or anything like that, but there's some some issues and you know, I think there's a relationship falling apart, Paul font.
23:04.085 --> 23:22.709
[SPEAKER_00]: I think and I think there's a perception amongst people in New Japan that when people go to a W to do a match or a series of matches and they get over, then they pretty much done with New Japan because now Tony Collins got his eyes on them and he offers them more money than New Japan can pay them.
23:23.430 --> 23:26.734
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's exactly the W W does with all their partners.
23:27.068 --> 23:31.857
[SPEAKER_01]: You two could be a midcard with a sheet on collision losing every map.
23:31.918 --> 23:34.543
[SPEAKER_00]: Kid, you know, you're dead right now.
23:34.603 --> 23:39.994
[SPEAKER_00]: We'll just forget it because nobody remembers that angle and dead serious about going to it.
23:40.014 --> 23:41.076
[SPEAKER_00]: She had scratchy land.
23:41.196 --> 23:42.278
[SPEAKER_00]: That's what there you go.
23:42.298 --> 23:42.799
[SPEAKER_00]: There you go.
23:42.779 --> 23:44.081
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, let's get into this show.
23:44.261 --> 23:52.935
[SPEAKER_01]: So let's get into this show, but let me give an overall thing because I've realized one of the things that has been kind of annoying me in wrestling a little bit.
23:52.955 --> 24:01.188
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's one of these things we're listening to Garrett on both fight game and on the Friday Observer, a bit of on-way in the fandom.
24:01.208 --> 24:10.542
[SPEAKER_01]: And somebody in the voices of wrestling discord in the old school channel goes, you know, when I want to kick back and relax,
24:11.230 --> 24:13.975
[SPEAKER_01]: My favorite thing to watch is Brad Armstrong matches.
24:15.277 --> 24:18.202
[SPEAKER_01]: And I looked at that, and I went, how sad.
24:18.242 --> 24:22.089
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, I like Brad Armstrong, great wrestler.
24:22.350 --> 24:24.774
[SPEAKER_01]: Don't give me wrong, technically sound, all that other stuff.
24:26.397 --> 24:32.087
[SPEAKER_01]: But I'd rather watch paint dry, than watch Brad Armstrong feuds and whatnot.
24:32.508 --> 24:35.533
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's the problem, as wrestling has become,
24:35.952 --> 24:50.130
[SPEAKER_01]: A series of Brad Armstrong matches where the actual participants themselves are boring, but the matches are really, really good in terms of technical expertise and stuff like that.
24:50.251 --> 24:52.674
[SPEAKER_01]: And it makes wrestling a boring product.
24:53.154 --> 24:59.783
[SPEAKER_01]: All the things that make wrestling fun have been ripped out because everybody thinks they're associated with WWE.
24:59.763 --> 25:01.725
[SPEAKER_01]: and it just kills me, Paul.
25:02.146 --> 25:17.425
[SPEAKER_01]: I want to see angles and promos and what are you going to do to somebody once you get them in that double cage and hey, you know lives into somebody like only Anderson say oh it's a chance to legally break somebody's arm in a cage or something like that.
25:17.825 --> 25:20.449
[SPEAKER_01]: Give me something and it said it's just here's the match.
25:21.150 --> 25:22.331
[SPEAKER_00]: Enjoy it.
25:22.752 --> 25:29.500
[SPEAKER_00]: We didn't get any promos
25:29.935 --> 25:47.590
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so yeah, and watch next week, we got six women on each side and none of them and five on five match that we, you know, is happening, but there's no stakes and everybody involved has got better things to do in a week after that, but here we go.
25:47.992 --> 25:51.299
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, so they started the show, they showed a recap of of the thing.
25:51.319 --> 26:01.120
[SPEAKER_00]: They pated themselves on the back a little bit showing, uh, hang man out on a page dressed up as Tony Shavani, and then Shavani's in the ring and he's going to make his announcement about the national championship.
26:01.180 --> 26:06.591
[SPEAKER_00]: But as you mentioned earlier, small Joe's music hit and the ops came out and interrupted.
26:06.571 --> 26:32.983
[SPEAKER_00]: Joe says we got a problem and it applies to this person in the ring and he says I know Giovanni is going to try and tell you nothing to do with what happened last week but I don't believe him and Giovanni said hey I respect you but Joe just yelled at him and shut up and there's consequences for those that engage with us and we're coming here for George's peach and then they try to get in the ring but security got in there to save Tony which never happened so I guess he's got friends in high places.
26:32.963 --> 26:36.908
[SPEAKER_00]: and uh, and then Joe said to ask why he's just getting more people hurt.
26:36.928 --> 26:48.461
[SPEAKER_00]: So then hangman page comes out, makes a save, and uh, and then, uh, he gets the ring, and then, uh, Eddie Kingston hook quickly follow Kingston for some reason is carrying a crutch.
26:48.561 --> 26:54.448
[SPEAKER_00]: I have no idea why, but I just had worked in this instance because he was able to
26:55.002 --> 27:01.711
[SPEAKER_00]: And then hang man says, if you want to handle your problem, uh, beat your ass, it right here in my wranglers.
27:02.051 --> 27:06.157
[SPEAKER_00]: And then hook takes the mic and he says, you guys are trios champions.
27:06.697 --> 27:07.639
[SPEAKER_00]: I won them with you.
27:07.699 --> 27:11.964
[SPEAKER_00]: But now tonight, uh, I want you guys to be fighting champions.
27:11.984 --> 27:14.147
[SPEAKER_00]: So you should put those titles online against us.
27:14.688 --> 27:16.770
[SPEAKER_00]: And then Joe gets all flustered and accepts the challenge.
27:17.431 --> 27:19.474
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, hold on a second.
27:19.606 --> 27:20.428
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, okay.
27:20.448 --> 27:20.728
[SPEAKER_01]: Good.
27:20.829 --> 27:35.038
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm glad you were there, but but give me give me a moment before you say the logical thing here that I know you're gonna say, okay, so Do you think Joe was actually confused as whether that Tony was involved in the angle last week?
27:35.840 --> 27:38.205
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what Joe was thinking.
27:38.185 --> 27:58.495
[SPEAKER_00]: First of all, okay, putting that aside when I when I was doing the right up for this match, you know, the preview for the show I should say I saw that that match was happening and I had no idea because I watched collision and it hadn't been announced on collision so I assume it's been announced at some point between collision and today and I'll be honest I've been in Vegas.
27:58.635 --> 28:01.900
[SPEAKER_00]: I got better things to do than following a W on Twitter.
28:01.920 --> 28:04.243
[SPEAKER_00]: I thought they had made this match.
28:04.510 --> 28:07.576
[SPEAKER_01]: This last week on dynamite.
28:08.157 --> 28:08.477
[SPEAKER_00]: Was it?
28:09.038 --> 28:09.940
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, it was.
28:09.980 --> 28:10.200
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
28:10.701 --> 28:11.843
[SPEAKER_00]: That's why it's laughing.
28:11.883 --> 28:12.464
[SPEAKER_00]: We go ahead.
28:12.945 --> 28:13.587
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, okay.
28:13.607 --> 28:16.251
[SPEAKER_00]: So whatever it was made, I didn't know was made last week.
28:16.372 --> 28:17.914
[SPEAKER_00]: I, you know, if it was, I forgot.
28:17.995 --> 28:18.576
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's on me.
28:19.257 --> 28:21.000
[SPEAKER_00]: But it was an on-title match.
28:22.027 --> 28:31.681
[SPEAKER_00]: and then hook, challenge them to put it up, put up the title, and then Joe accepted, and my thought was, why did they even bother announcing the match ahead of time?
28:32.061 --> 28:34.545
[SPEAKER_00]: Why not just do this angle and then make the match?
28:35.987 --> 28:42.376
[SPEAKER_00]: Like that would make more sense to me, because I bet you most people watching had no idea this match was scheduled for tonight.
28:42.956 --> 28:45.520
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like, so you know why they didn't do it?
28:45.837 --> 28:47.679
[SPEAKER_00]: because that's with WWE does.
28:48.280 --> 28:49.761
[SPEAKER_00]: And they don't want to be like WWE.
28:49.781 --> 28:50.822
[SPEAKER_00]: So we're going to do it differently.
28:50.842 --> 28:55.647
[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to announce a non-title match ahead of time and then do an angle at the beginning of the show to make it a title match.
28:56.488 --> 28:56.888
[SPEAKER_01]: OK.
28:57.349 --> 28:57.769
[SPEAKER_01]: Question.
28:57.789 --> 28:59.411
[SPEAKER_01]: Did the stakes matter in the match?
29:00.252 --> 29:01.773
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, yeah, it was for the titles.
29:02.654 --> 29:07.479
[SPEAKER_01]: No, but I mean, did it actually play into anything having to do in the match at the end?
29:07.499 --> 29:07.880
[SPEAKER_00]: What match?
29:08.220 --> 29:08.580
[SPEAKER_01]: What do you mean?
29:09.261 --> 29:10.042
[SPEAKER_01]: The main event.
29:10.382 --> 29:11.764
[SPEAKER_01]: Did the titles change hands?
29:12.144 --> 29:14.967
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, no, but I mean, they could have.
29:15.993 --> 29:17.595
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, like I didn't think they would.
29:18.816 --> 29:23.800
[SPEAKER_00]: I said, oh, they're tweet hoping that it was going to make air and said, uh, is hanging out about to become a champion?
29:24.321 --> 29:28.044
[SPEAKER_00]: I thought that was just hanging off to get on TV, but you sent us simple chat.
29:28.585 --> 29:29.025
[SPEAKER_00]: I did.
29:29.085 --> 29:29.986
[SPEAKER_00]: I did.
29:30.026 --> 29:30.967
[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't get picked up.
29:31.548 --> 29:32.308
[SPEAKER_00]: I did get a like.
29:32.369 --> 29:33.069
[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you, Debbie.
29:36.713 --> 29:38.134
[SPEAKER_01]: No, I mean, I was fine.
29:38.154 --> 29:40.857
[SPEAKER_01]: I looked, they tried to get hook on the mic.
29:41.217 --> 29:43.960
[SPEAKER_01]: He just doesn't bring anything with it.
29:43.980 --> 29:45.561
[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no.
29:46.739 --> 29:51.404
[SPEAKER_00]: No, so yeah, so we got a main event, and it's for the titles, and it's coming up later tonight.
29:51.624 --> 29:52.245
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's fine.
29:53.186 --> 30:00.453
[SPEAKER_00]: And we get into Orange Cassie and Claudio Cassie and only in match one of the blood versus blood and guts advantage battle that we talked about early.
30:00.473 --> 30:02.075
[SPEAKER_00]: You got your team's got to win two out of three.
30:02.495 --> 30:03.837
[SPEAKER_00]: So this is exactly what you said.
30:04.117 --> 30:05.258
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, is a good match.
30:06.039 --> 30:07.160
[SPEAKER_00]: The guys in it are boring.
30:07.240 --> 30:14.468
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, Orange Cassie, you know, he does some fun stuff for people like puts his hands in his pants and does kip ups with his hands in his pants and
30:14.448 --> 30:34.650
[SPEAKER_00]: He makes beatings with his hands in his pants and Claudio lifts him up by the by the jeans and that was cool and Claudio gets pops even though he's a heel and and they even pointed out that everybody loves it when he does the Airplane swing yeah, I mean or yeah the giant swing meanwhile like he's a heel
30:34.630 --> 30:55.398
[SPEAKER_00]: And they had a cool combo when it finished because Claudio blocked orange punch, blocked the orange punch with a pop up uppercut, then he tried it again, but Cassidy hit the orange punch and then he went for it again, but then this time casting only hit the pop up uppercut and won it and he's like a second time now, he's actually won with the uppercut.
30:55.418 --> 30:55.959
[SPEAKER_00]: So I mean, it's a good.
30:56.159 --> 31:00.705
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm finally excited that his offense means something.
31:00.938 --> 31:09.750
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but, but again, like, and then this goes for the whole show, like I looked at this line up tonight as I was putting the notes for this show together and it was like
31:10.709 --> 31:18.881
[SPEAKER_00]: Even though I bet you some of these matches are new, like this feels like every episode of Dynamite that I've ever seen, at least for the last six months.
31:18.941 --> 31:24.950
[SPEAKER_00]: Like it's the same people having the same matches and you know what's gonna happen.
31:25.351 --> 31:29.677
[SPEAKER_00]: And I mean, it's fine if you like good wrestling, but there's nothing like compelling.
31:30.439 --> 31:34.304
[SPEAKER_00]: And I was just listening to Garrett and Dave have a conversation on wrestling as a radio.
31:34.465 --> 31:38.691
[SPEAKER_00]: And they were talking about how like the people that go to Dave's house to watch the paper views.
31:41.489 --> 31:45.934
[SPEAKER_00]: They didn't watch dynamite like they don't watch dynamite for a whole month, and then they go to watch the movies.
31:45.954 --> 31:52.841
[SPEAKER_00]: They really enjoy the paper views because they're good matches and everything, but like they're not watching this TV because it doesn't matter, and then notice television matters.
31:53.562 --> 31:56.045
[SPEAKER_00]: Like it's just, you know, we're booking matches.
31:56.726 --> 32:00.510
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, that's my point since I joined this show.
32:00.530 --> 32:01.751
[SPEAKER_01]: I know.
32:01.791 --> 32:06.316
[SPEAKER_01]: It's the television is the advertisement for your paper views, and it should be.
32:06.396 --> 32:07.918
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not just there to
32:09.046 --> 32:13.583
[SPEAKER_01]: uh uh uh there's a big argument on the board about this too about whether or not tone.
32:16.876 --> 32:18.321
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh.
32:18.341 --> 32:19.566
[SPEAKER_00]: Lost Jeff third or second.
32:19.867 --> 32:20.068
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh.
32:20.960 --> 32:33.839
[SPEAKER_01]: All the wrestling, yeah, all the wrestling observer readers are just like, oh, I love this show blah, blah, blah, blah, and brands like, no, you actually have to try to make good television to bring in new viewers and stuff like that.
32:33.859 --> 32:46.478
[SPEAKER_01]: And everybody's repiling against him because like, why do we need video recaps because we don't need to be spoon fed every single linear television show has a previously on.
32:47.504 --> 32:48.986
[SPEAKER_01]: Before they go to the next chapter.
32:49.667 --> 32:54.796
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, I just, yeah, I don't get into John news arguments.
32:55.637 --> 32:56.298
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sorry.
32:56.318 --> 33:06.595
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, he took exception to me and other people saying that Tony is an excellent matchmaker, but the booking is not very compelling.
33:07.697 --> 33:09.259
[SPEAKER_00]: And he doesn't think there's a difference.
33:11.450 --> 33:13.072
[SPEAKER_00]: So and he's done the booking.
33:13.152 --> 33:13.753
[SPEAKER_00]: So you know what?
33:14.093 --> 33:24.325
[SPEAKER_00]: I defer to John there because he does he he's done booking and I haven't So Did you sound like let's let's move on yeah, yeah, let's move on.
33:24.345 --> 33:30.552
[SPEAKER_00]: So death right at our point nothing Then we get Renee Peket backstage with Mark Briscoe and Kyle Fletcher and Tom Cal.
33:30.693 --> 33:37.120
[SPEAKER_00]: So I was a standing there like they're all good buddies And Renee thanks them for agreeing to no physicality, but
33:37.100 --> 33:43.693
[SPEAKER_00]: based on the demeanor in this interview like there was no chance there was going to be any physical because these guys came off like they were best friends.
33:45.336 --> 33:55.255
[SPEAKER_00]: It was funny because so brisco says at the last match I thought your thought process was a swift kick to your fan to my family jewels that helped you win.
33:55.636 --> 33:56.578
[SPEAKER_00]: Can't make you feel good.
33:56.598 --> 33:58.602
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like making out with your sister.
33:58.582 --> 34:03.229
[SPEAKER_01]: And Kyle and I said for the man, everybody corpse on this.
34:03.349 --> 34:13.763
[SPEAKER_01]: I just went on, but but don at least was going to go and you would know about making out with your sister, he tried and they tried and they cut them off on it.
34:13.783 --> 34:17.328
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Renee just she couldn't she couldn't hold it back.
34:18.250 --> 34:21.875
[SPEAKER_00]: And then so she says, I want to make your real man and let's do it again at full gear.
34:21.955 --> 34:23.577
[SPEAKER_00]: No disqualification.
34:23.692 --> 34:37.088
[SPEAKER_00]: and Fletcher, he's got this look on his face and it's funny because the look he had on his face and Don Calis said he looks out of him and he's like, oh, you look like you're churned on and that's like exactly what he looked like.
34:37.589 --> 34:38.790
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he wanted this match.
34:38.850 --> 34:40.993
[SPEAKER_00]: He's like, he's all gone home about this match.
34:41.033 --> 34:42.575
[SPEAKER_00]: So they're going to do it.
34:42.595 --> 34:50.044
[SPEAKER_01]: He has so good at the nonverbal cues of being a professional wrestler with a title belt and a suit.
34:50.405 --> 34:52.467
[SPEAKER_01]: I just I love Fletcher in this role.
34:52.447 --> 34:53.889
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I do continue.
34:53.909 --> 34:55.190
[SPEAKER_00]: Fletcher is awesome.
34:55.611 --> 34:56.292
[SPEAKER_00]: Fletcher's awesome.
34:56.352 --> 35:00.016
[SPEAKER_00]: So, so they're so they basically agree to it, but then call us gets involved.
35:00.036 --> 35:03.761
[SPEAKER_00]: Then you know, because he's a manager and he says, you know, like we're even you a shot at the title.
35:03.861 --> 35:07.205
[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, that's what you get, but we need something from you.
35:07.385 --> 35:09.488
[SPEAKER_00]: So, and then brisk goes like, what do you want?
35:09.508 --> 35:13.733
[SPEAKER_00]: My career, do we make a career versus title and don't like, no, no, I don't want your career.
35:13.793 --> 35:14.815
[SPEAKER_00]: I love Mark brisco.
35:15.255 --> 35:16.817
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want you to retire.
35:16.797 --> 35:24.293
[SPEAKER_00]: I want you to join the Dodd-Calist family and so basically, yeah, so Briscoe called them a silver tongue snake.
35:24.313 --> 35:28.782
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not losing and it's you that made a deal with the devil and he accepted so.
35:29.285 --> 35:33.451
[SPEAKER_01]: Here we go, the should have been the last match, though, that's the problem.
35:33.471 --> 35:54.060
[SPEAKER_01]: This is the one where my first coach actually win and instead, this is now the one he should lose because we want to, we want the sympathy heat from him, reluctantly having to do these things in a course of, though, they'll pull the trigger to soon of my first coach screwing up things for the Don Calus family.
35:54.327 --> 36:00.878
[SPEAKER_01]: because he's going to do it from week one instead of waiting until like week four five to start doing it or he'll just win.
36:00.918 --> 36:06.367
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, no, that's what I'm saying he's going to win, which is the least interesting choice.
36:06.487 --> 36:06.747
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
36:07.128 --> 36:18.867
[SPEAKER_01]: And then now it's him in the brisk and this giant thing of brisco of the callous family where they could literally tear him apart 10 on one if they wanted to.
36:19.893 --> 36:25.564
[SPEAKER_01]: And he's going to do, no, he's going to be the conduit for Takeshita is what's going to happen.
36:26.626 --> 36:33.640
[SPEAKER_00]: Turn to weird thing is is that yeah, the weird thing is is that like the last paper view felt like a replay of the previous paper view.
36:33.780 --> 36:36.867
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, and this one coming up feels like a replay in the last one.
36:38.550 --> 36:41.175
[SPEAKER_00]: I like this we do have some interesting we got the
36:41.408 --> 36:47.875
[SPEAKER_00]: while we'll get to, we'll get to one of them, but we have the million dollar trio in Hatch, which we'll talk about.
36:48.636 --> 36:54.984
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know why Tony Khan keeps offering money to people that hate them and that try to kill them and stuff, but I guess he does.
36:55.764 --> 36:58.948
[SPEAKER_00]: At this point, we're not supposed to take this money seriously, right?
36:59.889 --> 37:04.935
[SPEAKER_00]: Like a million dollar trio's match with Josh Alexander in it.
37:05.455 --> 37:06.697
[SPEAKER_00]: Are we talking about it now?
37:06.737 --> 37:07.598
[SPEAKER_00]: I thought we were waiting.
37:07.618 --> 37:08.659
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, we'll talk about it later.
37:08.699 --> 37:10.662
[SPEAKER_00]: But there's another, oh, let's just actually the next segment.
37:11.162 --> 37:16.689
[SPEAKER_00]: So we're names backstage with the young bucks and they, and so they announced, I guess they announced this on collision, I think.
37:16.850 --> 37:20.735
[SPEAKER_00]: But unless it was on social media, I had, I did know about this.
37:21.255 --> 37:23.638
[SPEAKER_00]: But it's, so she's interviewing them.
37:23.719 --> 37:26.102
[SPEAKER_00]: And so it's young bucks, callous, and Josh Alexander.
37:26.622 --> 37:28.905
[SPEAKER_00]: So they're going to be facing the Jurassic Express.
37:29.025 --> 37:31.969
[SPEAKER_00]: And even sure who else is in that match.
37:31.989 --> 37:32.610
[SPEAKER_00]: Do you remember?
37:33.822 --> 37:35.646
[SPEAKER_00]: The cooler the Jurassic Express is partner.
37:35.686 --> 37:36.568
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, it's a mega, right?
37:36.808 --> 37:37.369
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it is.
37:37.389 --> 37:37.850
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a mega.
37:37.870 --> 37:38.010
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
37:38.572 --> 37:39.293
[SPEAKER_00]: So, yeah.
37:39.353 --> 37:52.159
[SPEAKER_00]: So, um, so per cad asked like, oh, does this mean you've joined the Don Cal's family and they wouldn't answer and then Cal's cut them off and said, uh, we sent you a nice care package to make sure you get the treatment that you deserve and not like some jobbers that you've been.
37:52.680 --> 37:55.105
[SPEAKER_00]: But, uh, while you're part of our team, your family.
37:55.085 --> 38:02.095
[SPEAKER_00]: And then the rest of the Calis family walked in, Calis introduced them to Ocata, which is stupid, because they were all part of the elite before.
38:02.135 --> 38:04.398
[SPEAKER_00]: And then Matt says, this is under well, overwhelming.
38:05.359 --> 38:07.042
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it was underwhelming.
38:07.062 --> 38:11.327
[SPEAKER_00]: And then Calis said, take your time leaving before leaving with the family.
38:11.368 --> 38:15.153
[SPEAKER_00]: And Ocata stuck around and told the box not to take too much time deciding.
38:15.794 --> 38:16.915
[SPEAKER_00]: Did not call them bitches?
38:17.756 --> 38:17.957
[SPEAKER_00]: No.
38:18.678 --> 38:19.519
[SPEAKER_00]: Interestingly enough.
38:19.619 --> 38:22.543
[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't think they're joining this family.
38:24.464 --> 38:25.145
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't either.
38:25.165 --> 38:48.750
[SPEAKER_00]: I think they're losing and then they'll get blamed for the loss and then they'll make it will come in for the save and yeah, so the the Akata Fadi, the Caldeo, the Akata family, you know, the Akata family, the Calus family is beating on them and then yeah, then Kenny makes a safe yeah, I could see them with the Jurassic Express and then they're all one big happy family and somehow they'll get the money.
38:49.743 --> 38:54.771
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like the rest of express will like be like, oh, I got I got Luke Perry money.
38:54.851 --> 38:56.654
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't need your money.
38:56.674 --> 38:58.698
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm still not 100% positive.
38:59.279 --> 39:01.242
[SPEAKER_00]: Jack Perry isn't going to join this cows family.
39:02.123 --> 39:05.749
[SPEAKER_00]: I just, I don't trust this guy.
39:06.390 --> 39:07.011
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know why.
39:07.051 --> 39:13.101
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe it's a knife that he carries around like threats with.
39:13.081 --> 39:16.149
[SPEAKER_01]: But just get goat mask last week.
39:16.169 --> 39:17.833
[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, what are they doing with this guy?
39:18.374 --> 39:18.474
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
39:18.495 --> 39:20.399
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I guess we'll we got more of them.
39:21.322 --> 39:26.314
[SPEAKER_00]: Then we got Mercedes one day and Athena versus the Babes Iraq.
39:27.323 --> 39:38.593
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, of course, named after the Canadian rock band, uh, little guy in the Harley Cameron, uh, in an AW women's tag team that'll tournament quarterfinal badge.
39:39.574 --> 39:45.199
[SPEAKER_00]: And, uh, and the, uh, the surprises continue in this tournament.
39:45.279 --> 39:50.984
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, everyone looked at the brackets and right away, you knew, oh, Mercedes and a theme against Tony and me and the falls.
39:51.024 --> 39:51.484
[SPEAKER_00]: That's great.
39:51.564 --> 39:52.085
[SPEAKER_00]: That's awesome.
39:52.105 --> 39:54.987
[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to have super stars as the first champions.
39:55.127 --> 39:55.828
[SPEAKER_00]: And,
39:56.163 --> 40:05.378
[SPEAKER_00]: No, we got the sisters a sin winning last week, which I guess in hindsight was good, because since Queen homin' out of got hurt, and then, you know, if they had a big vans, they would probably have to find a replacement partner.
40:05.558 --> 40:08.443
[SPEAKER_00]: We might be getting Jamie Hader and, I don't know what, Mina.
40:09.525 --> 40:10.527
[SPEAKER_00]: No, she's on another team.
40:10.787 --> 40:13.872
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know who would have filled in for, yeah, so it's a good thing that they won.
40:13.932 --> 40:16.817
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe it's not even a real injury.
40:17.097 --> 40:18.660
[SPEAKER_00]: No, I think it probably is.
40:18.877 --> 40:24.864
[SPEAKER_00]: But anyways, yeah, so is a thin end and Mercedes against Willow and Harley Cameron.
40:25.084 --> 40:31.031
[SPEAKER_00]: And they had a fun match, it was, you know, just, you know, a lot of what she'd expect.
40:31.131 --> 40:32.252
[SPEAKER_00]: Athena looked really great.
40:32.292 --> 40:42.524
[SPEAKER_00]: She had this one spot where she gave Willow and Harley like a double suplex, like, oh, no, no, she had, she had, she had Willow on her back.
40:42.664 --> 40:46.048
[SPEAKER_01]: And then Harley, for a while, I said,
40:46.130 --> 40:47.252
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, small drug.
40:47.272 --> 40:47.492
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
40:47.973 --> 40:49.035
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that looked really cool.
40:49.095 --> 40:49.976
[SPEAKER_00]: And it was kind of cool.
40:50.016 --> 41:04.999
[SPEAKER_00]: It was awesome because right before it like she'd been fighting Willow and then right before that Willow makes a tag to Harley, and it wasn't clear whether or not Athena even saw the tag, but then after she did the double small and drop, she clears Willow and pins Harley or tried to.
41:05.039 --> 41:09.927
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, she got a two count, but I mean, that was that was actually really good the way they did that.
41:09.907 --> 41:27.325
[SPEAKER_00]: And eventually Billy Stark comes out and she grabs a Mercedes title and tries to get it to Mercedes or a thinnest title sorry and tries to get it to Athena and then she can't and then eventually
41:28.604 --> 41:30.087
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, what happened here.
41:31.430 --> 41:34.217
[SPEAKER_01]: Statlander comes out and close lines, Billy's sharks.
41:34.898 --> 41:37.624
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Mercedes is running away from Statlander.
41:38.125 --> 41:44.339
[SPEAKER_01]: Athena gets the her finishing move from, well, night and go hit her with a doctor, mom first.
41:44.360 --> 41:45.482
[SPEAKER_00]: And then Camperon is.
41:45.462 --> 41:51.510
[SPEAKER_00]: and that her finishing move with the official name of the thing.
41:51.530 --> 41:59.039
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, roll the dice cross was where we want to call it and Harley pinned Athena and yeah, and the surprises continue.
41:59.800 --> 42:08.171
[SPEAKER_00]: Although now, okay, so last week I predicted we're probably getting a finals of TJ and sisters of sin, but I think this team might actually be the winning team.
42:08.451 --> 42:12.837
[SPEAKER_00]: This would actually be a good
42:13.373 --> 42:14.475
[SPEAKER_01]: the match.
42:15.015 --> 42:18.841
[SPEAKER_01]: The problem with this is you had that really great hot tag from Willow.
42:20.383 --> 42:23.007
[SPEAKER_01]: And then you did a second hot tag from Willow.
42:23.268 --> 42:27.935
[SPEAKER_01]: And this crowd just was like, we just cheered for her previous hot tag.
42:28.115 --> 42:29.277
[SPEAKER_01]: We're not doing this again.
42:29.297 --> 42:35.466
[SPEAKER_01]: And it killed the momentum
42:35.885 --> 42:39.290
[SPEAKER_01]: her geared in fish, put that per pants, watch everyone in.
42:39.330 --> 42:40.211
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just ridiculous.
42:40.953 --> 42:57.998
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, yeah, I, I, I wouldn't do something where Tony and Mina lose because of an injury suffered in blood and guts to reo and and outs, Windsor and then you have Windsor and them against probably bane and and marina.
42:58.519 --> 43:02.044
[SPEAKER_01]: It feels like it's going to be babes of wrath versus marina and, uh,
43:02.986 --> 43:11.355
[SPEAKER_00]: and Megan Bane, so could be, I mean, I have no, I've kind of given up trying to predict like how this tournament's going to be.
43:11.375 --> 43:16.500
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it just, I mean, because it feels like the politics of it is we're giving all the people who have been lifers.
43:17.321 --> 43:24.509
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, runs in this thing as opposed to the people who we signed early at center or the people that are actually stars.
43:25.450 --> 43:27.452
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but next that too.
43:27.552 --> 43:28.073
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's good.
43:28.373 --> 43:31.296
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, this is our work rate tag team title.
43:31.316 --> 43:32.217
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's
43:33.310 --> 43:43.106
[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to be Megan and are not making, but Alex and and Rio versus versus JJ in that second round.
43:43.587 --> 43:45.249
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like okay.
43:45.850 --> 43:46.271
[SPEAKER_01]: Great.
43:46.812 --> 43:48.855
[SPEAKER_01]: Great ratings death.
43:48.835 --> 43:50.417
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, JJ.
43:50.798 --> 43:54.584
[SPEAKER_00]: We who, uh, yeah, I don't know when the last time they were undying my mother's in.
43:54.604 --> 43:56.947
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, so Mercedes and Athena are out.
43:57.728 --> 44:04.679
[SPEAKER_00]: And I, uh, I thought that they were going to tease like something between these two, you know, and maybe we're going to see another match down the road.
44:04.699 --> 44:05.560
[SPEAKER_00]: But there was none of that.
44:06.401 --> 44:09.867
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I said that, but I'm still, I mean, how is Anna J?
44:10.007 --> 44:13.392
[SPEAKER_01]: Not an absolute superstar on this show?
44:13.793 --> 44:19.381
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know because she's not bad like she's fine in the ring.
44:19.461 --> 44:21.724
[SPEAKER_00]: I suppose and she's got a great presence.
44:21.765 --> 44:22.706
[SPEAKER_01]: She's a star.
44:22.786 --> 44:27.873
[SPEAKER_01]: She's yeah and she came back from Japan and she had that short run and then she got trauma.
44:28.735 --> 44:29.075
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
44:29.736 --> 44:30.057
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
44:30.297 --> 44:30.577
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
44:30.617 --> 44:31.178
[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't know.
44:31.519 --> 44:34.483
[SPEAKER_01]: Over with the dark order put her back with them if you have to.
44:34.623 --> 44:36.205
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
44:36.446 --> 44:36.706
[SPEAKER_00]: No.
44:36.806 --> 44:37.287
[SPEAKER_00]: No.
44:37.418 --> 44:38.422
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just amazing.
44:38.442 --> 44:47.682
[SPEAKER_01]: We're Tony went, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no
44:48.455 --> 44:50.578
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know that there's an operation ship.
44:50.598 --> 45:01.050
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's kind of funny that the two of them are both, you know, partners of people that were kind of on the outs with Tony for a while in terms of personality.
45:01.170 --> 45:08.419
[SPEAKER_01]: I will agree with with this comment that Angie is not as good as Harley Cameron in terms of the personality and the stuff that you bring to it in ring.
45:08.459 --> 45:10.682
[SPEAKER_01]: You sure about that.
45:11.472 --> 45:13.874
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not, it's pretty close.
45:13.995 --> 45:14.755
[SPEAKER_00]: It's pretty close.
45:14.835 --> 45:15.696
[SPEAKER_01]: No, it's a push.
45:16.037 --> 45:19.140
[SPEAKER_00]: No, I mean, this, that's thanks for listening.
45:19.160 --> 45:20.682
[SPEAKER_00]: That's, uh, very out.
45:21.582 --> 45:25.306
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but, but it doesn't matter because it's like, it's wrestling.
45:25.346 --> 45:26.848
[SPEAKER_01]: You can push who you want to push.
45:26.988 --> 45:29.531
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's just sorry, Dr. Larry out.
45:29.551 --> 45:30.752
[SPEAKER_00]: He has not been native.
45:31.593 --> 45:35.497
[SPEAKER_00]: And I did, I did a podcast with him a little while ago that should be dropping soon.
45:35.657 --> 45:36.958
[SPEAKER_00]: So we had a great conversation.
45:37.219 --> 45:40.382
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, so nice nice to
45:40.733 --> 45:57.308
[SPEAKER_00]: And then we got the Tony Shivani announcement a second time so this time he comes out and he didn't get in while he did get interrupted again, but he announced that so the newly formed national championship is going to be decided in a casino gauntlet match at full gear.
45:57.524 --> 46:13.170
[SPEAKER_00]: And he brought up that it's been 40 years since the national championship has been part of TBS and wrestlers backstage or lining up wanting to be a part of it and he introduces two men who will be in the match so I guess maybe the first two because otherwise we don't know sure anybody's in the match.
46:13.150 --> 46:19.566
[SPEAKER_01]: But Bobby Lossian, Shelton Benjamin, no, no, no, no, and contracts are signed to be in it, and 21 people are signed to the match.
46:19.867 --> 46:24.518
[SPEAKER_00]: Remember, okay, but they may not be actually in it, but they may not actually show.
46:24.598 --> 46:26.623
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so there, well, maybe that's it.
46:26.643 --> 46:28.628
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe Bobby Lossian isn't even in the match.
46:28.608 --> 46:39.120
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, so, uh, anyways, they come up with MVP Daniel Send, uh, watch them in the gauntlet against each other and uh, but he can't bring himself to choose who would win.
46:39.621 --> 46:49.432
[SPEAKER_00]: Savani says, uh, this is an interesting situation for you guys, and MVP says what's interesting is the history of the newly debuting international challenge.
46:50.294 --> 46:50.734
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
46:51.929 --> 46:54.194
[SPEAKER_00]: and then he did correct himself.
46:54.756 --> 46:55.878
[SPEAKER_00]: He did correct himself.
46:56.440 --> 47:03.998
[SPEAKER_00]: But then he goes on to say that it's going to be decided in the casino gauntlet rumble or battle royal, which it's not a battle royal MVP.
47:04.018 --> 47:05.141
[SPEAKER_00]: No, it's not.
47:05.161 --> 47:09.010
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but he did call it a battle royal because these names nobody.
47:08.990 --> 47:09.551
[SPEAKER_00]: them straight.
47:10.011 --> 47:17.799
[SPEAKER_00]: But he did bring up the history brought up Orndorf, Jack Briscoe, Dusty Rhodes, Wahoo, McDaniel, and you know, a little in the key to coal off of personation.
47:17.819 --> 47:18.500
[SPEAKER_00]: It was kind of cool.
47:19.281 --> 47:20.462
[SPEAKER_00]: And I said, we're businessman.
47:20.482 --> 47:21.683
[SPEAKER_00]: We'll do it's best for business.
47:21.763 --> 47:24.306
[SPEAKER_00]: But who are winning that scenario is the AW viewing audience.
47:24.326 --> 47:25.707
[SPEAKER_00]: So they're total baby phases now.
47:26.868 --> 47:27.729
[SPEAKER_01]: Then I'll come to the right.
47:27.809 --> 47:29.171
[SPEAKER_01]: I think Danielson's right.
47:29.211 --> 47:30.912
[SPEAKER_01]: I think you're they're going to be one and two.
47:30.932 --> 47:33.495
[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to be like the demolition in the 89 rumble.
47:33.998 --> 47:35.000
[SPEAKER_01]: That'd be cool.
47:35.020 --> 47:36.342
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I think they'd go out at two.
47:36.862 --> 47:39.146
[SPEAKER_01]: I think they would because it's every man for himself.
47:39.166 --> 47:40.929
[SPEAKER_01]: So they're going to try and win the title immediately.
47:41.269 --> 47:41.470
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
47:41.510 --> 47:41.890
[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
47:41.910 --> 47:42.992
[SPEAKER_00]: And then nobody else can get in it.
47:43.613 --> 47:48.020
[SPEAKER_00]: So Rick Chase comes out with his group, the demand and he says I'm going to make this quick as possible.
47:48.060 --> 47:51.906
[SPEAKER_00]: Since I don't want to be here in this trash ass state.
47:51.886 --> 47:54.931
[SPEAKER_00]: I says, uh, I want to give you guys a credit you deserve.
47:54.991 --> 48:04.367
[SPEAKER_00]: Doesn't matter how old and how old you are, I admire you, but every time I open my mouth and spit out facts and say, and I told you so, I promise it's syndicate will never win gold.
48:04.888 --> 48:10.097
[SPEAKER_00]: And then he asked last year how his back was from last week, because it would be cost them the trio's titles.
48:10.077 --> 48:25.737
[SPEAKER_00]: And I started a piss ricochet off so MVP cut them off said no one cares about what you have to say Best you ever looked was getting your ass as kick by the syndicate Ricochet said it full gear the demandably met and I'll be the inaugural National Championship And MVP says ricochet talk shit.
48:26.077 --> 48:30.183
[SPEAKER_00]: We run shit And that was that nice nice segment good.
48:30.203 --> 48:31.404
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I was it was fine.
48:31.484 --> 48:34.528
[SPEAKER_00]: We did more promotion for this than they've done for blood and guts.
48:35.169 --> 48:35.409
[SPEAKER_01]: True.
48:35.690 --> 48:36.471
[SPEAKER_01]: Where were they tonight?
48:37.972 --> 48:38.413
[SPEAKER_00]: Houston
48:40.098 --> 48:43.926
[SPEAKER_01]: That Texas is not a trash estate.
48:43.946 --> 48:44.386
[SPEAKER_00]: I dare you.
48:44.407 --> 48:45.288
[SPEAKER_00]: He ran the same building.
48:45.308 --> 48:48.394
[SPEAKER_00]: I think NXT did a while ago when they went around.
48:48.455 --> 48:48.875
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
48:49.877 --> 48:52.062
[SPEAKER_01]: They're running a lot of Texas and Florida lately.
48:52.543 --> 48:54.306
[SPEAKER_00]: I mentioned this a couple of weeks ago to you.
48:55.168 --> 48:55.829
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
48:55.869 --> 48:57.673
[SPEAKER_00]: They're doing two shows in Houston this week.
48:57.693 --> 48:58.294
[SPEAKER_00]: Same building.
48:58.554 --> 48:59.897
[SPEAKER_00]: They're doing another one on Saturday.
49:00.138 --> 49:01.380
[SPEAKER_00]: And then I think.
49:01.478 --> 49:09.709
[SPEAKER_00]: I think they got one more show in Texas next week and then they're in eerie for a live collision on November 15th for some reason very Pennsylvania.
49:10.251 --> 49:10.472
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
49:11.135 --> 49:11.235
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
49:11.688 --> 49:19.501
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, so then we got the Jurassic Express walking back stage and as good as the Jack Perry promo was a couple weeks ago where he said it was like the best promise ever cut.
49:19.521 --> 49:21.284
[SPEAKER_00]: This one was not good.
49:22.125 --> 49:28.375
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, uh, he says it's more important things than money like friendship and I know the young bucks have been having problems with money.
49:28.496 --> 49:33.043
[SPEAKER_00]: So this should help and he puts a hundred dollar bill down on something.
49:33.143 --> 49:37.290
[SPEAKER_00]: I guess where the bucks are going to find it and he stabbed it with a knife.
49:37.270 --> 49:40.314
[SPEAKER_00]: And, uh, oh, I guess it was in front of the Doncouse locker room.
49:40.455 --> 49:49.788
[SPEAKER_00]: And then Luchisaurus was trying to get steal the money and and, uh, Perry told me leave it there and that was that there are more important things in money.
49:50.829 --> 50:00.443
[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no
50:01.115 --> 50:02.938
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, yeah.
50:02.958 --> 50:08.607
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, next we got, that's like an inter, this is like an interplay from a mammoth's heist in 2001.
50:08.748 --> 50:12.774
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, uh, my face of world will go around.
50:13.115 --> 50:13.896
[SPEAKER_01]: Thought it was love.
50:14.277 --> 50:15.479
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, love of gold.
50:17.822 --> 50:18.263
[SPEAKER_00]: There you go.
50:19.505 --> 50:27.358
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, what was it you're saying earlier about matches and boring and they're good, but oh, how'd you put it?
50:28.908 --> 50:38.405
[SPEAKER_00]: You remember what you said about like when you brought up people like and Brad Armstrong or something and you mentioned there they're technically fine matches, but there's no personality to them.
50:39.026 --> 50:45.398
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so the next match was Darby Allen versus Daniel Garcia.
50:45.496 --> 50:45.796
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
50:46.898 --> 50:48.580
[SPEAKER_01]: So I think always brings it.
50:48.781 --> 50:49.542
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that's true.
50:49.982 --> 50:50.783
[SPEAKER_01]: That's true.
50:50.803 --> 50:53.086
[SPEAKER_01]: You're there that Garcia's playing is ass.
50:53.888 --> 51:09.529
[SPEAKER_00]: So before the match, uh, Moxley basically threatens Garcia, as is you better win, because if it doesn't win, then Moxley has to face Roderick strong on collision for the right to get the man advantage at a flood gut.
51:09.897 --> 51:24.636
[SPEAKER_00]: And so they had a match and yeah, Darby you know, threw himself all over the place that he always does GarcÃa hold on hold on hold on home because it just entered my mind that this should have been a two or three segment thing.
51:25.137 --> 51:26.338
[SPEAKER_01]: We're early in the show.
51:26.779 --> 51:26.999
[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.
51:27.239 --> 51:29.442
[SPEAKER_01]: Moxley threatens Garcia.
51:29.978 --> 51:51.987
[SPEAKER_01]: And Garcia takes it, but eventually goes to you to unpacking us, who the hell is this guy think he is he gave up to he he did the I he lost the I quit match whatever whatever whatever I'm going to do my best out here, but you know what if he beat moxley whatever it's like, you know, just some grumbling or whatever and then go out here and do the match.
51:52.608 --> 51:53.849
[SPEAKER_00]: But nope, we got none of that.
51:54.310 --> 51:55.291
[SPEAKER_01]: That's table.
51:55.311 --> 51:56.192
[SPEAKER_01]: Tell me, come on.
51:56.212 --> 51:56.753
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
51:56.853 --> 52:05.402
[SPEAKER_00]: And honestly, if I wasn't watching live, I would have skipped it and I wouldn't even heard what he said anyways, because I always skipped their long ass artistic quote unquote entrancees.
52:06.483 --> 52:07.865
[SPEAKER_00]: So anyways, they had a match.
52:08.125 --> 52:08.846
[SPEAKER_00]: It was good.
52:08.926 --> 52:10.147
[SPEAKER_00]: It was, you know, fine.
52:10.187 --> 52:15.233
[SPEAKER_00]: These guys are both good wrestlers and had Darby threw himself all over the place or see a fall them around.
52:15.753 --> 52:16.775
[SPEAKER_00]: Garcia tried out.
52:16.795 --> 52:19.337
[SPEAKER_01]: But all the emotion was in the interference.
52:19.838 --> 52:21.720
[SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't in match itself.
52:21.700 --> 52:40.317
[SPEAKER_00]: So the match finally picked up when Garcia is outside, sorry, Garcia is in the ring, Darby's outside and he distracts the ref and Pock appears out of nowhere and just took Darby's head off with a laryat and out.
52:40.297 --> 52:51.970
[SPEAKER_00]: Darby's on the ground and they did like a pretty good 10 count tease because he was on nine and he was still flat on his back and then like halfway from nine to ten he just jumped to his feet and got in the ring.
52:52.590 --> 53:02.761
[SPEAKER_00]: And then he gets in the ring and I've seen this a bunch of times lately where they do this count and then the guy jumps in the ring and then immediately the person in the ring attacks them.
53:03.962 --> 53:06.405
[SPEAKER_00]: That's not what Daniel Garcia did.
53:06.740 --> 53:26.638
[SPEAKER_00]: This Darby lunched at him at Garcia moves out of the way and then Darby lunched at him again and he moves out of the way instead of just freaking attacking him like he should have done he's just playing games and I just I was I was out of it at that point and then I then finally the he yeah Alan.
53:26.618 --> 53:33.529
[SPEAKER_01]: Right, but he's not doing it in the driveway, but, but again, but again, he's not taking any joy in avoiding in pairing.
53:33.589 --> 53:42.242
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just this is what I'm supposed to do in the match is, you know, as opposed to like taking the glee of being a heel and going, I'm just playing with my food right now.
53:42.362 --> 53:44.005
[SPEAKER_01]: I can finish you at any time.
53:44.385 --> 53:46.589
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm ducking your your little dives here.
53:46.849 --> 53:48.812
[SPEAKER_01]: Continue this because I have a bigger point to make.
53:48.792 --> 53:55.981
[SPEAKER_00]: So Garcia puts him in the dragon tamer and he mocks stained as a woo and then Allen was about to hit the ropes.
53:56.081 --> 54:01.448
[SPEAKER_00]: Garcia pulled back to the middle of the ring, but he kind of pulled him the wrong way and Darby was able to reposition.
54:01.868 --> 54:07.736
[SPEAKER_00]: He gets in the scorpion deathlock and Garcia taps pretty quickly and that was that.
54:07.976 --> 54:09.117
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's one one.
54:10.058 --> 54:13.703
[SPEAKER_01]: Here's here's something that AEW does not do well.
54:13.885 --> 54:17.989
[SPEAKER_01]: that they need to do, but everybody's going to accuse them of being WWE.
54:18.349 --> 54:20.672
[SPEAKER_01]: They don't do the story match at all.
54:21.092 --> 54:21.372
[SPEAKER_01]: No.
54:21.893 --> 54:23.674
[SPEAKER_01]: And this is what this should have been.
54:23.734 --> 54:24.936
[SPEAKER_01]: This should have been.
54:24.976 --> 54:28.719
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm trying to get an advantage in the blood and guts match.
54:28.739 --> 54:31.662
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm trying to get an advantage once the blood and guts match starts.
54:31.682 --> 54:35.566
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm going to come out here and I'm going to try and hurt Darby Allen.
54:35.586 --> 54:37.007
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to put the boots to him.
54:37.067 --> 54:37.988
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to cheat.
54:38.529 --> 54:39.910
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to try and will
54:46.268 --> 54:49.285
[SPEAKER_01]: Jeff wrote that up and hope now you're freezing again.
54:49.325 --> 54:53.106
[SPEAKER_01]: That's every time you say that they always say it's you
54:53.592 --> 54:54.193
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
54:54.954 --> 54:56.716
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, well, you're running the show.
54:56.816 --> 54:57.457
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's mine.
54:57.477 --> 54:58.018
[SPEAKER_01]: That's true.
54:58.378 --> 54:58.558
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
54:58.919 --> 55:00.301
[SPEAKER_00]: But, but Pock had that.
55:00.541 --> 55:01.122
[SPEAKER_00]: Pock had that.
55:01.242 --> 55:02.644
[SPEAKER_00]: Pock was trying to hurt Derby.
55:02.964 --> 55:03.345
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
55:03.445 --> 55:03.845
[SPEAKER_01]: Kind of.
55:04.025 --> 55:04.927
[SPEAKER_01]: But, but, but, but it was.
55:04.947 --> 55:11.075
[SPEAKER_01]: There's stating that story for the reason why Kyle probably loses the match on Saturday.
55:11.275 --> 55:12.677
[SPEAKER_01]: But then he'll be fraughty.
55:12.737 --> 55:12.857
[SPEAKER_00]: Brody.
55:12.877 --> 55:13.237
[SPEAKER_00]: Brody.
55:13.297 --> 55:13.618
[SPEAKER_01]: Good.
55:13.938 --> 55:14.579
[SPEAKER_01]: Erotty here.
55:14.659 --> 55:15.180
[SPEAKER_00]: Brody.
55:15.200 --> 55:15.721
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
55:15.741 --> 55:23.110
[SPEAKER_00]: Actually, I have a feeling that, well, they did a post match thing here.
55:23.883 --> 55:26.006
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so there's I could be wrong.
55:26.086 --> 55:27.568
[SPEAKER_00]: I just kind of the impression I got.
55:27.608 --> 55:30.913
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because they Ryan Daniels sin is going to be in the match.
55:30.933 --> 55:31.534
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, God.
55:31.954 --> 55:35.219
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe get a regular and the death writers.
55:35.479 --> 55:37.362
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe she yeah, probably Gabe kid.
55:37.642 --> 55:40.086
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, no, Gabe kids on the other side of mine.
55:40.406 --> 55:40.646
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
55:41.107 --> 55:42.309
[SPEAKER_01]: It's either she.
55:42.329 --> 55:43.290
[SPEAKER_01]: It's either she.
55:44.392 --> 55:45.673
[SPEAKER_00]: We're not as she is hurt.
55:46.114 --> 55:46.575
[SPEAKER_00]: She's hurt.
55:47.436 --> 55:48.958
[SPEAKER_01]: Then's Brian Daniels and probably.
55:49.479 --> 55:49.959
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, maybe.
55:49.999 --> 55:51.882
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, Nigel.
55:53.465 --> 55:56.893
[SPEAKER_01]: could be Nigel to get revenge on Garcia.
55:56.913 --> 56:00.781
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, but I mean, I'm just speculating.
56:00.821 --> 56:09.280
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, you know, so after the rain pockets, actually, you know what, you know, what Nigel makes sense if it's if they do that thing on Saturday.
56:09.260 --> 56:10.541
[SPEAKER_01]: That's where it is.
56:11.002 --> 56:11.563
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
56:11.583 --> 56:11.843
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
56:11.903 --> 56:13.004
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I guess we'll find out.
56:13.625 --> 56:14.806
[SPEAKER_00]: So Orange Cassidy.
56:14.907 --> 56:17.770
[SPEAKER_00]: So yes, so yeah, pockets of ringy attacks Allen.
56:17.970 --> 56:23.637
[SPEAKER_00]: Orange Cassidy makes a save that brings in Wheeler, Claudio, Roddy, John Moxley.
56:24.077 --> 56:25.499
[SPEAKER_00]: Kyla Riley's on his way down to the ring.
56:25.519 --> 56:31.626
[SPEAKER_00]: John Moxley blindsided him went after his knee and he was selling his knee pretty good and I think a trick is even out there looking at him.
56:31.706 --> 56:35.250
[SPEAKER_00]: So I think that that was an injury angle, but we'll find out.
56:35.230 --> 56:39.876
[SPEAKER_00]: a pocket, Cassie with a tombstone, Claudio, flattened them with a neutralizer.
56:40.557 --> 56:42.419
[SPEAKER_00]: Moxley's got a Riley down.
56:43.100 --> 56:45.643
[SPEAKER_00]: Roddy's strong left over everyone with a knee to moxley.
56:45.683 --> 56:46.865
[SPEAKER_00]: The deathwriters took off.
56:47.085 --> 56:49.148
[SPEAKER_00]: And the commentary was asking where Marc Briscoe was.
56:49.869 --> 56:53.614
[SPEAKER_00]: And, uh, Scalber said he's got his own, own worries, own stuff to worry about.
56:55.075 --> 56:58.039
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's like, uh, yeah, way to sell this thing.
56:59.261 --> 57:01.744
[SPEAKER_00]: He's the one that made the challenge.
57:01.724 --> 57:11.597
[SPEAKER_00]: So the back, we're about Kyle Fletcher and having to join the Kyle Fletcher thing is to do emotionally, so to borderline, who's that to contriars?
57:11.958 --> 57:14.121
[SPEAKER_00]: I've got better things to do.
57:16.524 --> 57:17.185
[SPEAKER_00]: Doesn't ring about.
57:18.967 --> 57:22.071
[SPEAKER_00]: I can't, I can't remember the lyrics doesn't matter.
57:22.111 --> 57:25.155
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not singing country in there.
57:25.175 --> 57:30.162
[SPEAKER_00]: Then we got FTR out for a promo and okay, what did you think about this segment?
57:31.171 --> 57:39.986
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, I both liked and hated it for different reasons, okay, I'm probably on the same length.
57:40.026 --> 57:51.385
[SPEAKER_00]: I saw people really like this and I think I liked it the first time I saw it, uh, when when he did it with the blue pan there, guys, Brian and this was exactly what it was.
57:51.645 --> 57:55.812
[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, the high fiving of gravity and and his grandmother.
57:56.500 --> 57:59.023
[SPEAKER_00]: No, well, they're not, they're not God bless her.
57:59.484 --> 58:02.228
[SPEAKER_01]: But her off a little bit, yeah, she had no idea about this.
58:02.248 --> 58:03.490
[SPEAKER_00]: She had no idea what was going on.
58:04.431 --> 58:07.956
[SPEAKER_00]: Dax is insulting this shit out of her, like over and over again.
58:08.096 --> 58:09.998
[SPEAKER_00]: Gravity just standing there.
58:10.018 --> 58:15.606
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, and at some point gravity needed to attack Dax and way before he actually did.
58:15.755 --> 58:16.135
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
58:16.936 --> 58:18.538
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that that was the problem.
58:18.999 --> 58:24.446
[SPEAKER_01]: Like as I thought it was Bandito under the gravity mask at first and I was whole he'd know he is too fat.
58:26.428 --> 58:31.714
[SPEAKER_00]: Is that that my love to say that gravity is fat or okay.
58:31.734 --> 58:34.478
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I thought he looked he is fat or not.
58:34.938 --> 58:41.046
[SPEAKER_00]: That's probably why they call him gravity before they told you that that gravity was Bandito's brother.
58:41.066 --> 58:42.167
[SPEAKER_00]: Did you have any idea?
58:43.244 --> 58:45.231
[SPEAKER_01]: I had forgotten it to be honest.
58:45.251 --> 58:46.274
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, yeah, me too.
58:46.315 --> 58:46.616
[SPEAKER_00]: Me too.
58:46.756 --> 58:46.977
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
58:47.418 --> 58:48.903
[SPEAKER_01]: I actually thought it was hologram.
58:51.171 --> 58:53.339
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so this is an issue with me.
58:53.620 --> 58:55.245
[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't know about you, but
58:55.563 --> 58:56.525
[SPEAKER_00]: I can't tell.
58:56.545 --> 58:59.410
[SPEAKER_00]: I can't tell Luchador's a part.
58:59.450 --> 59:00.411
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not a race thing.
59:00.431 --> 59:01.633
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a freaking mask thing.
59:02.094 --> 59:04.518
[SPEAKER_00]: Like I don't remember what masks anybody wears.
59:04.579 --> 59:07.443
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a me being an old stupid person.
59:07.504 --> 59:14.736
[SPEAKER_01]: But the masks are so basic now as opposed to like when you watch the Luchador's on WCW Nitro they were all.
59:15.053 --> 59:15.674
[SPEAKER_01]: Fairly.
59:15.774 --> 59:26.470
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and they have something they brought up when they brought in different ones and you'd be like, all right, I don't know who Perof Jr. is necessarily, but you okay, fine.
59:26.871 --> 59:28.653
[SPEAKER_00]: Or the, but there's no way you're mistaken.
59:28.733 --> 59:34.943
[SPEAKER_00]: One of the volanos for like, you know, movie or Ray or La Parca.
59:35.343 --> 59:37.466
[SPEAKER_00]: No, you know, like, yeah.
59:37.547 --> 59:43.896
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, now it's like Bandito hologram.
59:44.551 --> 59:56.847
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, look at, you know, a kid, if you have to, I'll tell you, even heteroceros and beast mortals, like I can't tell which of them is which, like, and other than when they're, like, with different people, you know what I mean?
59:56.887 --> 59:58.309
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I'll see, be heteroceros.
59:58.429 --> 01:00:00.432
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, a heteroceros is a doctor.
01:00:01.453 --> 01:00:02.815
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, more doses of lawyer.
01:00:04.196 --> 01:00:10.585
[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, there you go, silly me, silly Paul, yeah, you ever read the grapes of wrathful.
01:00:11.526 --> 01:00:12.067
[SPEAKER_00]: I have.
01:00:12.467 --> 01:00:13.849
[SPEAKER_01]: I, well, did I?
01:00:14.740 --> 01:00:16.322
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, John Steinbeck, right?
01:00:16.402 --> 01:00:17.544
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I blew the joke.
01:00:17.564 --> 01:00:18.144
[SPEAKER_01]: It's had you ever.
01:00:18.345 --> 01:00:18.745
[SPEAKER_01]: I know.
01:00:18.905 --> 01:00:19.486
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a red list.
01:00:19.506 --> 01:00:20.167
[SPEAKER_01]: Just, I know.
01:00:21.289 --> 01:00:23.111
[SPEAKER_00]: Doctor and lawyer walk into a wrestling ring.
01:00:25.394 --> 01:00:26.295
[SPEAKER_01]: Doctor and lawyer.
01:00:26.355 --> 01:00:27.557
[SPEAKER_01]: What's your third one that we need?
01:00:27.957 --> 01:00:28.958
[SPEAKER_01]: Doctor and lawyer.
01:00:29.159 --> 01:00:29.880
[SPEAKER_01]: What's your third?
01:00:30.000 --> 01:00:30.500
[SPEAKER_01]: A priest.
01:00:31.522 --> 01:00:31.862
[SPEAKER_01]: Priest.
01:00:31.962 --> 01:00:32.243
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
01:00:32.283 --> 01:00:33.464
[SPEAKER_00]: That's what I did.
01:00:33.484 --> 01:00:34.245
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't do.
01:00:34.265 --> 01:00:35.187
[SPEAKER_00]: Do they have any priests in eight?
01:00:35.267 --> 01:00:37.069
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, Christopher Daniel's time.
01:00:37.218 --> 01:00:51.023
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, so yeah, so anyways, they're um, so they're, they're, they're at ringside, they're harassing Bandito's grandma and then eventually, uh, you know, gravity gets gets, gets involved.
01:00:51.524 --> 01:00:57.555
[SPEAKER_00]: But um, as many ways, God, I'm just, I'm losing my, I'm losing my finger.
01:00:57.822 --> 01:01:00.344
[SPEAKER_00]: So what the hell was going on here?
01:01:01.425 --> 01:01:02.467
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, but it's somebody asked this.
01:01:02.847 --> 01:01:05.409
[SPEAKER_00]: And I could figure out what was happening here with here.
01:01:05.570 --> 01:01:06.470
[SPEAKER_00]: It's totally in Renee.
01:01:06.831 --> 01:01:23.627
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, stokely has pulled the impossible of locking them from the outside in their own dressing room and is leaning against the door to keep them in, but also simultaneously watching the wire.
01:01:23.911 --> 01:01:25.013
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, great.
01:01:25.073 --> 01:01:26.717
[SPEAKER_00]: I guess it's it's out on HBO Max.
01:01:27.298 --> 01:01:27.719
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, it is.
01:01:28.140 --> 01:01:28.420
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
01:01:28.460 --> 01:01:28.881
[SPEAKER_00]: There you go.
01:01:28.941 --> 01:01:29.603
[SPEAKER_00]: That's okay.
01:01:30.324 --> 01:01:31.266
[SPEAKER_00]: So so yeah.
01:01:31.286 --> 01:01:34.593
[SPEAKER_00]: So he's he's blocking the door so that they can't make the save.
01:01:35.194 --> 01:01:43.692
[SPEAKER_00]: And meanwhile FTRs harassing Banditos family rings out and blah blah blah blah and eventually what happens is.
01:01:43.790 --> 01:01:46.394
[SPEAKER_00]: someone puts a through the door.
01:01:46.434 --> 01:01:48.999
[SPEAKER_00]: And of course, that someone would be Brody King.
01:01:49.039 --> 01:02:03.823
[SPEAKER_00]: And Brent Brodydo escapes and they end up getting past Stokely, obviously, you know, poor old manager watching the television show on his phone is no match for
01:02:03.803 --> 01:02:07.408
[SPEAKER_00]: Broking and they got to the ring to make the save.
01:02:07.789 --> 01:02:09.451
[SPEAKER_00]: Gravity was about to hit a spike pile.
01:02:09.471 --> 01:02:13.217
[SPEAKER_00]: It was about to get hit with a spike pile driver, but yeah, they made the save in time.
01:02:13.938 --> 01:02:17.863
[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, and so that was the set up for FTR and Brodito.
01:02:18.164 --> 01:02:19.866
[SPEAKER_00]: I think for FTR is winning those titles.
01:02:20.247 --> 01:02:20.647
[SPEAKER_00]: That fit.
01:02:20.667 --> 01:02:22.430
[SPEAKER_01]: This is just catch around a joke.
01:02:22.750 --> 01:02:25.815
[SPEAKER_01]: The joke was we had this door that we could put the hand through.
01:02:25.835 --> 01:02:26.836
[SPEAKER_01]: And it was a good visual.
01:02:26.856 --> 01:02:27.457
[SPEAKER_01]: Don't give me wrong.
01:02:27.918 --> 01:02:28.038
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
01:02:28.318 --> 01:02:30.421
[SPEAKER_01]: It's anybody ever done the John Mayer gravity.
01:02:30.461 --> 01:02:33.726
[SPEAKER_01]: Stay the hell away from me.
01:02:34.027 --> 01:02:35.209
[SPEAKER_00]: But never probably not.
01:02:35.789 --> 01:02:36.290
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, no.
01:02:36.851 --> 01:02:42.197
[SPEAKER_00]: Have I, I'm still holding out hope that my plans, my booking plans are going to come through.
01:02:42.237 --> 01:02:44.721
[SPEAKER_00]: FTR wins the building.
01:02:44.741 --> 01:02:52.771
[SPEAKER_00]: Brody King snaps and turns on Bandito and rips his shoulder out of his socket because he's mad about having to do the mock arena.
01:02:53.312 --> 01:02:57.677
[SPEAKER_01]: I think everybody wants this because I've now heard it on two other different podcasts.
01:02:57.697 --> 01:02:58.278
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, really?
01:02:58.738 --> 01:03:03.865
[SPEAKER_01]: Acting, well, I believe David Brian
01:03:03.997 --> 01:03:09.443
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, uh, we did Brian and I think a like a lot of times and I may even share ideas with them.
01:03:10.144 --> 01:03:10.945
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
01:03:10.965 --> 01:03:16.692
[SPEAKER_00]: So you know, yeah, so yeah, so, but now that Tony got wind of it, maybe we won't see it.
01:03:17.633 --> 01:03:21.718
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, hey, maybe maybe maybe that's where they got the idea for the callous thing.
01:03:23.259 --> 01:03:24.961
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm only first stunt granny.
01:03:25.822 --> 01:03:26.443
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, there you go.
01:03:27.773 --> 01:03:54.118
[SPEAKER_00]: uh... we got a great blood and guts video package uh... narrated by demolanko it was it was awesome but i don't really have much as when you think war games you think the man who was replaced in a war games yeah yeah who else could they have gotten it's magna maybe aren no they got a call department to do a voiceover he would it i think he's on a the ledon's deal
01:03:55.246 --> 01:03:56.588
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's true.
01:03:57.149 --> 01:03:58.831
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, uh, flair.
01:04:00.033 --> 01:04:02.316
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, flair.
01:04:02.897 --> 01:04:06.341
[SPEAKER_01]: Bring your crappy mushroom energy drink here and we'll let you.
01:04:07.663 --> 01:04:09.386
[SPEAKER_01]: What's up?
01:04:09.406 --> 01:04:11.829
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, yeah, sting, sting could have done it.
01:04:12.089 --> 01:04:14.593
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yes, yes, they're telling us off.
01:04:14.613 --> 01:04:16.856
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, tell me, you're telling us on a, tell us on a legends deal.
01:04:18.378 --> 01:04:22.063
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, no, no, actually, the person he was actually mentioned tonight.
01:04:22.870 --> 01:04:33.200
[SPEAKER_00]: Nikita Coloff would have been the perfect kid of the dudeness and now yes and he's a great speaker actually you know what I'll take that I'll take that that would have been awesome.
01:04:33.882 --> 01:04:37.673
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but they like Dean and he works there Maggadier
01:04:38.750 --> 01:04:43.559
[SPEAKER_00]: So Tony Storm makes her return to dynamite for the first time since Russell dream.
01:04:44.321 --> 01:05:01.534
[SPEAKER_00]: I guess he was off getting married and so there was this bizarre exchange at the beginning where she calls me and her wife and then one of the announcers says you guys are married and she says yes.
01:05:01.514 --> 01:05:04.679
[SPEAKER_00]: And then, I knew it was Excalibur, says, oh, you learned something new every day.
01:05:04.719 --> 01:05:07.904
[SPEAKER_00]: And then Tony says, oh, I guess congratulations on order.
01:05:08.344 --> 01:05:09.546
[SPEAKER_00]: And she says, shut up!
01:05:14.473 --> 01:05:17.678
[SPEAKER_01]: And maybe you should come by a new play by play on my origin.
01:05:17.698 --> 01:05:18.700
[SPEAKER_00]: One of my orgies.
01:05:19.281 --> 01:05:24.248
[SPEAKER_00]: And during the commercial break, she called herself the vagisaurus.
01:05:26.675 --> 01:05:28.078
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god, okay.
01:05:28.098 --> 01:05:28.860
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, thank you.
01:05:28.880 --> 01:05:29.742
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I didn't make air.
01:05:30.484 --> 01:05:33.151
[SPEAKER_00]: No, and so they have this match.
01:05:33.993 --> 01:05:35.476
[SPEAKER_00]: Again, oh, I didn't mention the match.
01:05:35.516 --> 01:05:44.498
[SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't matter because like all this was was Tony on commentary and she wasn't even talking about blood and guts, not at all.
01:05:44.478 --> 01:05:48.244
[SPEAKER_00]: They tried to get it out of her, and she did not care about this match at all.
01:05:48.284 --> 01:05:52.070
[SPEAKER_01]: No, she didn't care about blood and gut, so they were basically hyping the tank term.
01:05:52.090 --> 01:05:54.434
[SPEAKER_00]: And while she was there, she doesn't care about blood and gut.
01:05:54.514 --> 01:05:59.402
[SPEAKER_00]: And then so this was obviously to get, you know, Matt's one of the blood and gut's advantage battle.
01:05:59.923 --> 01:06:08.376
[SPEAKER_00]: Meena Shirakawa Megan Bain, Meena being a replacement for Queen Aminata for a match at nobody knew was happening before they tuned into the show.
01:06:08.356 --> 01:06:09.777
[SPEAKER_00]: and they had a match.
01:06:09.818 --> 01:06:24.032
[SPEAKER_00]: It had no heat and Megan being one with a with a power bomb after some distraction from Marina Shafir, a tax Tony storm, grabs her from behind, puts her in a headlock, tries to choke her out.
01:06:24.433 --> 01:06:26.935
[SPEAKER_00]: Tony makes her own save, beats a shit on a Marina.
01:06:27.196 --> 01:06:38.127
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, what's like Marina is like this unstoppable monster forever and Tony storm, you know, like doesn't
01:06:38.866 --> 01:07:05.886
[SPEAKER_01]: Like am I on yeah, I'm sure that or or or at least Mina should have been should have lost because she was trying to save Tony at the yes and and it was basically the idea was that there was a distraction but there wasn't the whole freaking match was a distraction because Tony was the distraction like this was a one joke match because the whole joke was we're putting me in because she has giant boobs and she's going to shake him in front of
01:07:05.866 --> 01:07:07.910
[SPEAKER_01]: Megan Bain who also has giant boobs.
01:07:08.250 --> 01:07:09.974
[SPEAKER_01]: That that was the match right there.
01:07:10.094 --> 01:07:17.548
[SPEAKER_00]: This was this was like the match that my wife would walk in on and she would like she did never watch this again, Paul.
01:07:17.568 --> 01:07:18.249
[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, no.
01:07:18.630 --> 01:07:29.410
[SPEAKER_00]: She walked in during the empty arena match that they had a WrestleMania with Charlotte and Rhea and she says she looks at the screen and she says,
01:07:30.082 --> 01:07:31.364
[SPEAKER_00]: You just made a reaction.
01:07:31.404 --> 01:07:35.349
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it was the best match on the show, but she looks at them.
01:07:35.389 --> 01:07:38.493
[SPEAKER_00]: She goes, how do they wrestle in those giant fake tits?
01:07:39.975 --> 01:07:40.756
[SPEAKER_00]: This is my wife.
01:07:42.379 --> 01:07:46.664
[SPEAKER_00]: And so she would have said something similar to that here.
01:07:47.545 --> 01:07:48.887
[SPEAKER_00]: But eventually, yeah.
01:07:48.907 --> 01:07:53.894
[SPEAKER_00]: So storm, storm makes her own save on Marina and then Bane in the meantime.
01:07:53.954 --> 01:07:56.157
[SPEAKER_00]: Pinch here, Kyle with a Liger bomb.
01:07:56.137 --> 01:07:56.898
[SPEAKER_00]: gets the win.
01:07:57.659 --> 01:08:05.829
[SPEAKER_00]: And then after the match, she fear makes a comeback on Tony, throws her into his stairs and then she jumps in the ring, they start beating down Mina.
01:08:06.349 --> 01:08:08.532
[SPEAKER_00]: And this is just basically replay of the angle from earlier.
01:08:08.572 --> 01:08:12.056
[SPEAKER_01]: Everybody from home has to beat that has to be the second round match.
01:08:12.116 --> 01:08:15.240
[SPEAKER_01]: That is Tony and Mina versus Bane and she fear, right?
01:08:15.520 --> 01:08:16.521
[SPEAKER_00]: You would think so.
01:08:16.541 --> 01:08:18.043
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's not the next match.
01:08:18.665 --> 01:08:19.929
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't even know I don't have the graphic.
01:08:20.189 --> 01:08:23.719
[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no, no, no, Tony and Mina have to go up against, uh, wins.
01:08:23.739 --> 01:08:24.722
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, Windsor and Rihow.
01:08:24.803 --> 01:08:25.184
[SPEAKER_00]: You're right.
01:08:25.264 --> 01:08:25.464
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
01:08:25.986 --> 01:08:27.590
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, the JJ's going against.
01:08:27.631 --> 01:08:28.152
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
01:08:28.773 --> 01:08:29.534
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
01:08:29.654 --> 01:08:30.675
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, you're probably right.
01:08:30.695 --> 01:08:33.097
[SPEAKER_00]: So TJ is not advancing, you know, probably not.
01:08:34.078 --> 01:08:35.960
[SPEAKER_00]: So eventually, everybody comes out.
01:08:36.260 --> 01:08:43.606
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, not everybody because Mercedes Monet shows up and she's about to get in and then she looks and she's like, no, I'm not doing this.
01:08:44.547 --> 01:08:48.691
[SPEAKER_00]: And she's about to go to the back and then Chris that lander shows up.
01:08:48.771 --> 01:08:54.276
[SPEAKER_00]: She takes her head off with a clothes line, gets in the ring and helps to chase away all the heels.
01:08:54.977 --> 01:08:55.717
[SPEAKER_00]: And that was that.
01:08:55.757 --> 01:08:58.560
[SPEAKER_00]: So it was basically the exact same thing we saw earlier.
01:08:58.540 --> 01:09:00.502
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, you know, with different people.
01:09:00.542 --> 01:09:01.143
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
01:09:01.183 --> 01:09:07.410
[SPEAKER_01]: So we basically know what the men had the ending of the men's blood guts matching two weeks is going to be.
01:09:07.430 --> 01:09:09.092
[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to be moxley tap.
01:09:09.112 --> 01:09:11.975
[SPEAKER_00]: I think moxley submitting to the sharpshooter again.
01:09:12.435 --> 01:09:13.717
[SPEAKER_01]: So what do you have in women?
01:09:13.737 --> 01:09:14.978
[SPEAKER_01]: What do you have in the women's?
01:09:16.880 --> 01:09:20.624
[SPEAKER_00]: I, it doesn't even matter, but it doesn't matter.
01:09:20.644 --> 01:09:21.545
[SPEAKER_01]: You're correct on that.
01:09:21.585 --> 01:09:26.050
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, because so I haven't
01:09:26.975 --> 01:09:31.270
[SPEAKER_00]: I would think, okay, so the match, the paper view match.
01:09:31.290 --> 01:09:36.208
[SPEAKER_00]: I think Chris Dallas has obtained Mercedes, Chris Dallas is going to pin Mercedes.
01:09:36.661 --> 01:09:37.983
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, so you can get a pin on this.
01:09:38.063 --> 01:09:39.986
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought it was a submitter surrender.
01:09:40.126 --> 01:09:41.388
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, it is submitter surrender.
01:09:41.508 --> 01:09:43.331
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, to stop even have a submission.
01:09:43.871 --> 01:09:45.874
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a pay for the WWE version.
01:09:45.974 --> 01:09:48.318
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe Mercedes submit stat.
01:09:48.338 --> 01:09:49.940
[SPEAKER_00]: And then that's what I'm thinking.
01:09:50.381 --> 01:09:53.085
[SPEAKER_01]: I was originally thinking Tecla submit stat.
01:09:53.105 --> 01:09:55.628
[SPEAKER_01]: But I think it's going to be Mercedes submit stat.
01:09:55.648 --> 01:09:58.973
[SPEAKER_01]: And then they unify the titles under stat.
01:09:59.172 --> 01:10:10.096
[SPEAKER_00]: Or it could be marina, uh, you know, submitting, you know, doing something because that would plan to the deathwriter storyline, which is obviously more important than anything that's going on with the women, sorry, Tony.
01:10:10.116 --> 01:10:10.958
[SPEAKER_00]: That's a show you're booking.
01:10:11.780 --> 01:10:15.027
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I know that that would be unfortunate though, because you really need something for that.
01:10:16.130 --> 01:10:17.232
[SPEAKER_01]: Women's title match.
01:10:17.650 --> 01:10:18.912
[SPEAKER_00]: you do, you do, yeah.
01:10:19.193 --> 01:10:23.540
[SPEAKER_00]: Although I do think they're doing a pretty good job building up Stattlander in Mercedes.
01:10:24.161 --> 01:10:24.722
[SPEAKER_01]: It's okay.
01:10:25.162 --> 01:10:26.765
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not, it's not horror.
01:10:26.785 --> 01:10:28.908
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not worse than any other building, too.
01:10:29.229 --> 01:10:31.392
[SPEAKER_01]: It's actually more than some of the buildings we do.
01:10:31.412 --> 01:10:31.633
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
01:10:32.134 --> 01:10:36.901
[SPEAKER_00]: So team team heels are a one.
01:10:37.122 --> 01:10:40.928
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the heels win the women's and the, and the baby faces win the men's.
01:10:41.349 --> 01:10:42.831
[SPEAKER_00]: That's what I think is going to happen to you.
01:10:42.811 --> 01:10:55.331
[SPEAKER_00]: So let me get the main event and it was the ops against Hangman Hook and Eddie Kingston making his return to Dynamite for the AWS titles and again, you know, they had a good match.
01:10:55.371 --> 01:10:57.795
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, all the, you know, the thing about people being boring.
01:10:57.815 --> 01:10:59.438
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you know, a lot of these guys aren't boring.
01:10:59.978 --> 01:11:08.532
[SPEAKER_01]: One thing I really liked in this match was
01:11:08.512 --> 01:11:10.415
[SPEAKER_00]: I like Shabbat in this match.
01:11:10.455 --> 01:11:19.069
[SPEAKER_00]: He's kind of been like he's in these promos and he's involved, but he doesn't really feel like his hearts into it and he was acting like a heal in this match.
01:11:19.490 --> 01:11:27.583
[SPEAKER_00]: Like he hit somebody with a low blow and he was like hitting them with these kicks that are like, you know, kind of like orange castes, but they actually hurt.
01:11:27.563 --> 01:11:45.709
[SPEAKER_00]: and you know, and just like with he has this disdain that he uses, there's one thing I didn't like and it was right before the break when Hobbes gets in the ring and, uh, hook catches him and hits a huge overhead suplex.
01:11:46.750 --> 01:11:53.740
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, and it looked impressive as hell, but it also I think it killed
01:11:54.428 --> 01:12:13.993
[SPEAKER_00]: and he ends up outside the ring and the doctor was checking on the whole commercial and he was pretty much out of the match until the finish and then it played into the finish so I think maybe it was storyline but um it was uh I don't know like I don't know what they were thinking because I don't like the idea of Hobbes being hit with a move like that by hook.
01:12:14.393 --> 01:12:21.162
[SPEAKER_01]: No, I don't either and I really want that this heel turn should be an opportunity
01:12:21.732 --> 01:12:26.518
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think get a little bit of it with the power moves don't get me wrong, but hops should be really.
01:12:26.558 --> 01:12:36.792
[SPEAKER_01]: Playing up the heel persona within this short run, because eventually they're going to turn them back baby face with because people love Joe too much correct.
01:12:37.653 --> 01:12:41.378
[SPEAKER_01]: And so Bob should answer about it, but hops should be really.
01:12:42.556 --> 01:12:58.185
[SPEAKER_01]: singing his teeth into this healer on that that they should be no selling for hook that that's he should he should jump up and like nail them with a clothes line like right after there's something yeah because his giant and enormous and should be getting a bigger push in this company.
01:12:58.705 --> 01:13:09.565
[SPEAKER_00]: So eventually, hook gets back in the ring, tried to put a red rom on Hobbes, and he got away, and then he put hook in a backbreaker, Joe Health Kingston off, and Hook submitted.
01:13:09.826 --> 01:13:12.972
[SPEAKER_00]: So hook submits in the main event two weeks in a row.
01:13:13.793 --> 01:13:15.496
[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, and that was that.
01:13:15.657 --> 01:13:16.478
[SPEAKER_00]: So,
01:13:16.458 --> 01:13:19.061
[SPEAKER_00]: Eddie checked on them and then next week.
01:13:19.902 --> 01:13:20.483
[SPEAKER_00]: They announced this.
01:13:20.523 --> 01:13:22.246
[SPEAKER_00]: I missed it, but I'm reading some notes here.
01:13:23.127 --> 01:13:27.993
[SPEAKER_00]: Hangman is going up against how powerhouse Hobbes falls down anywhere match.
01:13:28.434 --> 01:13:31.157
[SPEAKER_00]: So this is on the same card as blood and guts.
01:13:32.459 --> 01:13:37.385
[SPEAKER_00]: So we're doing we're getting two blood and guts matches and hangman against not the same week.
01:13:37.425 --> 01:13:41.110
[SPEAKER_01]: Now the women's blood guts is next week and the men's own two weeks.
01:13:41.591 --> 01:13:44.254
[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, they're both in the same week.
01:13:46.276 --> 01:13:49.601
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, Jeff, so there's a three hour show.
01:13:50.462 --> 01:13:51.564
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a two and a half hour show.
01:13:53.166 --> 01:13:53.447
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
01:13:54.008 --> 01:13:59.656
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so yeah, the collision we've got John Moxian Roderick strong match three of the blood and guts.
01:13:59.736 --> 01:14:02.901
[SPEAKER_00]: Then we got Sky Blue and Jamie Hater and match two of the blood and guts.
01:14:03.582 --> 01:14:10.933
[SPEAKER_00]: So obviously, Jamie's winning that one to tie it up and then the third match if necessary, Tecla against Harley Cameron.
01:14:11.474 --> 01:14:15.760
[SPEAKER_00]: So Tecla, obviously, is winning that one and the heels will get the
01:14:15.841 --> 01:14:24.489
[SPEAKER_00]: And then next week, blood and guts, men, men, the men's baby faces against the death writers, it's a conglomeration of Darby against the death writers.
01:14:25.049 --> 01:14:27.952
[SPEAKER_00]: And then the women, baby faces against the women heels.
01:14:28.912 --> 01:14:32.856
[SPEAKER_00]: And hang man versus powerhouse Hobbes and a false county where match.
01:14:32.876 --> 01:14:40.162
[SPEAKER_00]: Why you would do a false county where match involving your world champion on the same show as two blood and guts matches is beyond me.
01:14:40.563 --> 01:14:45.747
[SPEAKER_01]: But that's what they're doing.
01:14:46.486 --> 01:14:49.390
[SPEAKER_00]: survivor series is like two weeks after this.
01:14:49.410 --> 01:14:50.812
[SPEAKER_01]: I know, but nobody will want to want.
01:14:50.933 --> 01:14:51.934
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I don't want to watch that.
01:14:52.014 --> 01:14:54.798
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just I. W. Do there's what I want to go to that.
01:14:54.858 --> 01:14:56.221
[SPEAKER_00]: Nobody's watching dynamite either.
01:14:56.281 --> 01:14:57.222
[SPEAKER_00]: If you've seen the rates.
01:14:59.586 --> 01:15:02.270
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm saying internally, this is probably what they're thinking.
01:15:02.390 --> 01:15:02.890
[SPEAKER_00]: Got you.
01:15:02.931 --> 01:15:03.231
[SPEAKER_00]: Got you.
01:15:03.912 --> 01:15:05.554
[SPEAKER_00]: I just.
01:15:05.594 --> 01:15:08.899
[SPEAKER_00]: Tony's putting on a bang or that's that's what's happening.
01:15:09.160 --> 01:15:10.241
[SPEAKER_00]: No, it'll be a great match.
01:15:10.261 --> 01:15:10.882
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure.
01:15:11.103 --> 01:15:12.004
[SPEAKER_00]: Don't get me wrong.
01:15:12.372 --> 01:15:31.097
[SPEAKER_01]: But the women's match is interesting because it feels like this is going to be the type of thing where Remember when they were doing war games in NXT and everybody brings a weapon and you know people climbing all over the cage and things I think the women are going to ball out and and they're going to like they're going to have a great match.
01:15:31.137 --> 01:15:37.926
[SPEAKER_00]: I think How good yeah, and I mean those guys obviously that match is someone might actually die in that match.
01:15:38.046 --> 01:15:39.848
[SPEAKER_01]: I love that next week show
01:15:43.945 --> 01:15:46.693
[SPEAKER_01]: And then there goes the, okay.
01:15:46.713 --> 01:15:48.177
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think that's going to happen.
01:15:48.257 --> 01:15:50.162
[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, you mentioned Blackjack.
01:15:50.182 --> 01:15:50.904
[SPEAKER_00]: That's what I want to do.
01:15:50.964 --> 01:15:53.331
[SPEAKER_00]: So get your marks.
01:15:53.471 --> 01:15:57.081
[SPEAKER_01]: Accrep game 13 on x shake them ropes.
01:15:57.101 --> 01:15:59.608
[SPEAKER_01]: I record with Rob McCarron tomorrow.
01:16:00.787 --> 01:16:25.545
[SPEAKER_01]: Talk a little bit about Ridge Holland and it's kind of in your main a bit early talk about the fall out for Saturday night's main event and Logan Paul joining the vision question mark possibly so I'll probably drop on Friday morning because the flagships also recording and they don't like to put my show up until late so Friday morning Friday afternoon check your pot feeds check the ropes or the voices of wrestling mega feed for that.
01:16:26.707 --> 01:16:31.955
[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, I hint for all you people if you're getting paid by a company that you're not actually working for any more.
01:16:32.015 --> 01:16:35.019
[SPEAKER_00]: Don't be bad enough in the mid public or they may stop paying you.
01:16:36.141 --> 01:16:38.905
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to aid.
01:16:38.925 --> 01:16:41.409
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I will be I think back with Garrett on Monday.
01:16:41.429 --> 01:16:46.096
[SPEAKER_00]: We haven't done a show last two weeks for various reasons, but I think we'll be back with the take down on Monday.
01:16:46.697 --> 01:16:55.650
[SPEAKER_00]: And then I'll be back next week with Jeff here on the Dynamite Show back in my home studio in the cold as hell Winnipeg Manitoba.
01:16:56.018 --> 01:17:11.479
[SPEAKER_00]: After winning a trios match for a million dollars to make up for his black check losses there you go there you go so for Jeff Hawkins I've been Paul Fontaine and this has been the dynamite show Split those face cards
00:00.031 --> 00:01.975
[SPEAKER_02]: Dino-ma!
00:10.038 --> 00:16.627
[SPEAKER_00]: Hey everybody, Paul Fontaine here with Jeff Hawkins on the Dynamite Show on the Fiky Media YouTube channel.
00:17.067 --> 00:27.581
[SPEAKER_00]: Check it in just after Dynamite ended and I'm in case if you're watching on video and I want to thank you all for listening on the Fiky Media audio feed as well and Thursday morning.
00:27.621 --> 00:35.572
[SPEAKER_00]: But if you're watching on video, you'll notice that I am not in my usual studio, which is actually just my home office.
00:36.193 --> 00:37.935
[SPEAKER_00]: I am in Las Vegas.
00:37.915 --> 00:43.588
[SPEAKER_00]: uh... in my hotel room actually pretty good lighting and it's not too bad so hopefully
00:43.822 --> 00:48.366
[SPEAKER_00]: It's better than the last time I did the show remotely, where I was in the lobby of a hotel.
00:49.267 --> 00:50.868
[SPEAKER_00]: People wandering around by me.
00:51.929 --> 00:53.851
[SPEAKER_00]: It's actually, I got a nice room here at New York, New York.
00:54.692 --> 00:57.034
[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, and it's been a fun trip.
00:57.494 --> 01:00.417
[SPEAKER_00]: I was just telling Jeff off air.
01:01.538 --> 01:05.642
[SPEAKER_00]: I was on just an amazing run at the Black Jack table.
01:06.642 --> 01:09.645
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm telling the people, they're surprised I had to leave.
01:09.665 --> 01:11.787
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, well, I got to go watch wrestling.
01:11.767 --> 01:17.194
[SPEAKER_00]: And they're like, and I'm wearing an AEW shirt, as you can see, you know, oh, you know what, I'm wearing.
01:18.475 --> 01:19.577
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, look at that.
01:19.597 --> 01:22.460
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, three woulda paid jets, nothing.
01:23.361 --> 01:24.783
[SPEAKER_00]: Really, I didn't even know.
01:24.803 --> 01:25.965
[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't watch the game.
01:26.525 --> 01:29.289
[SPEAKER_00]: I got an alert on my phone saying that the game was close.
01:30.150 --> 01:30.931
[SPEAKER_00]: It was like one run.
01:30.971 --> 01:33.054
[SPEAKER_00]: So why did you guys get a couple empty neck holes or what?
01:34.495 --> 01:35.396
[SPEAKER_01]: We got one at the end.
01:35.457 --> 01:37.259
[SPEAKER_01]: It was too nothing in the end.
01:37.279 --> 01:37.379
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
01:37.399 --> 01:37.619
[SPEAKER_01]: Nothing.
01:37.639 --> 01:38.280
[SPEAKER_01]: I believe.
01:38.868 --> 01:44.638
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so I'm sitting there and and again, like they don't even have a clue what I'm talking about.
01:44.678 --> 01:48.704
[SPEAKER_00]: Like when I say I'm going to watch wrestling like they is WWE on tonight.
01:48.965 --> 01:49.846
[SPEAKER_01]: Not even that.
01:49.906 --> 01:51.068
[SPEAKER_01]: Is it SmackDown?
01:51.569 --> 01:55.616
[SPEAKER_00]: They thought I was talking about like, you know, like amateur wrestling.
01:55.816 --> 01:58.260
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, like they have no idea.
01:58.240 --> 02:17.045
[SPEAKER_00]: people don't understand like I didn't get a one go on hold on hold on why would you ever say it in public anyways I'm going to watch for wrestling No, there's like three people at the block right there's a shame you don't do that But I walked around all day in the shirt and I didn't get one comment like Actually, that's not true.
02:17.185 --> 02:21.531
[SPEAKER_00]: I did have a dealer asked me have you ever come to Vegas to see the wrestling shows
02:21.511 --> 02:25.598
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and I said, and I said, yeah, I come a lot to C.A.
02:25.979 --> 02:28.763
[SPEAKER_00]: W. And he's like, oh, that's WrestleMania, right?
02:28.824 --> 02:34.574
[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, no, I didn't give him the rest of it.
02:34.694 --> 02:37.699
[SPEAKER_00]: And that was the only notice that the shirt got.
02:37.799 --> 02:40.684
[SPEAKER_00]: And I wasn't like I was just sitting in my hotel room.
02:41.103 --> 02:44.912
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, so, uh, John's asking how Vegas is it's not dead.
02:45.193 --> 02:46.236
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, there's a lot of people here.
02:46.276 --> 02:53.373
[SPEAKER_00]: There's a, I think they had some tournament going on that in college basketball yesterday, because there's a reason to use an tournament up there.
02:53.413 --> 02:56.561
[SPEAKER_01]: I believe, or maybe it's just start of the season term.
02:56.581 --> 02:59.027
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, we're just getting into,
02:59.007 --> 03:09.626
[SPEAKER_01]: We're not quite in holiday tournament season yet, because I went up there for one a couple of years ago, because that's usually right around Thanksgiving or the week before Thanksgiving, but we're getting close.
03:09.646 --> 03:21.167
[SPEAKER_01]: We're in that silly season of games that don't really matter, and it's big schools playing small schools for the most part, because like UVA just played writer.
03:21.147 --> 03:22.248
[SPEAKER_01]: Last night.
03:22.449 --> 03:23.810
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so that the UBA.
03:23.870 --> 03:28.677
[SPEAKER_00]: I think was there was a ton of people here with those jerseys and sport in that school.
03:29.438 --> 03:33.283
[SPEAKER_00]: So I think I think that was the or did you say UVA.
03:34.124 --> 03:34.945
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, my school.
03:35.465 --> 03:37.228
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I don't know wasn't your school.
03:37.328 --> 03:38.669
[SPEAKER_01]: That was in Charlotte.
03:38.770 --> 03:40.692
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I didn't know this is something else.
03:40.874 --> 03:58.461
[SPEAKER_00]: And then they had, and then there was a red wings game yesterday, so there's a ton of red wings fans here to see that, but yeah, so this game I was going to tell you about it's called double down madness and it's black Jack, but you can double on each card.
03:58.441 --> 04:06.951
[SPEAKER_00]: So the dealer, so you get a 10 and the dealer shows a card that you think you can beat with a 10, you can double on your first card.
04:07.091 --> 04:10.456
[SPEAKER_00]: Then you get your second card and if you like it again, you could double again.
04:10.976 --> 04:17.284
[SPEAKER_00]: So if the dealer has like a six, you're going to double on every card and you keep doubling your original bet.
04:18.165 --> 04:22.390
[SPEAKER_00]: And then the other thing is if you get a blockjack, they pay you on your double.
04:22.589 --> 04:28.298
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, and it's uh, and they also pay you two to one on your black jacket if it's suited.
04:28.799 --> 04:30.361
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's this game isn't sane.
04:31.183 --> 04:36.431
[SPEAKER_01]: And it sounds like they took Mississippi stud and decided to turn it into blackjack in some way.
04:36.631 --> 04:37.813
[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, no, no, no.
04:37.853 --> 04:39.276
[SPEAKER_00]: Have you ever played Mississippi stud?
04:40.037 --> 04:42.100
[SPEAKER_00]: I've played it, but I don't remember it.
04:42.080 --> 04:48.987
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, you get two whole cards and then you can bet on each street after the river if you have a certain amount of time.
04:49.007 --> 04:55.152
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's and yeah, there's another game that's called there's another game that's like the reverse of that.
04:55.513 --> 04:57.475
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like four card poker or something.
04:57.915 --> 04:59.797
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's like the reverse of Mississippi stood.
05:00.057 --> 05:02.159
[SPEAKER_00]: So anyways, yeah, I would have a lot of fun with this game.
05:02.219 --> 05:08.425
[SPEAKER_00]: And and I was on just a major run and then I had to leave to come watch dynamite and then do this show.
05:08.405 --> 05:23.258
[SPEAKER_00]: And then the other thing, so I'm watching Dynamite, and I started about 15 minutes in, and I'm watching a trailer, so I'm skipping the commercials, and then it was alive, and I'm like, okay, I'll just switch on to TV, and then I go to TV.
05:24.082 --> 05:31.551
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll tell you how out of the no, a lot of wrestling is my brother as you might recall my brother for Christmas.
05:31.631 --> 05:51.294
[SPEAKER_01]: I believe last year bought me a bunch of Rick Flair stuff with the with the with the giant cardboard cut out that still in my mother's house down there and a and a Funko pop of Flair what not he offered to get me the ugly Christmas sweaters of Rick Flair this year and I keep telling him no don't do that.
05:51.414 --> 05:53.076
[SPEAKER_01]: He's been canceled.
05:53.056 --> 05:58.762
[SPEAKER_01]: Of course, he sarcastically kind of goes, nobody gets semi-cancel in my America.
06:00.804 --> 06:03.247
[SPEAKER_01]: He's such a weapon tool.
06:03.467 --> 06:08.092
[SPEAKER_01]: I love him to death, but he hasn't even heard of any of this stuff that happened to Flare.
06:08.112 --> 06:12.256
[SPEAKER_01]: He just knows that he used to be a horseman when we were kids and stuff like that.
06:12.416 --> 06:20.565
[SPEAKER_01]: So, the Flare, I'll make you wear this sweater, I go, if I wear this sweater anywhere, I get killed by people, Chris, don't do that to me.
06:20.545 --> 06:23.710
[SPEAKER_00]: Most people don't even remember, don't even know the Hogan stuff.
06:23.991 --> 06:27.237
[SPEAKER_00]: And their stuff is like one tenth of that.
06:27.878 --> 06:28.519
[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
06:28.899 --> 06:30.001
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, maybe not one tenth.
06:30.402 --> 06:31.063
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe half.
06:31.684 --> 06:32.986
[SPEAKER_00]: If I'm being, if I'm being gentle.
06:33.006 --> 06:36.913
[SPEAKER_01]: Now a lot more people know the Hogan stuff mostly because he went and spoke, right?
06:37.073 --> 06:39.718
[SPEAKER_01]: R&C in 2024.
06:39.901 --> 06:42.806
[SPEAKER_00]: And because, you know, in that loss, you've got a lot of publicity.
06:43.026 --> 06:49.397
[SPEAKER_01]: Where is the plane ride from hell did not for the moment?
06:49.417 --> 07:01.318
[SPEAKER_00]: No, I think 138,000 people watch on VICE, which is about how many are watching collision these days, which brings us to if you're watching collision.
07:01.298 --> 07:26.614
[SPEAKER_00]: you found out as did the people in the match that there's going to be a women's blood and guts match and we talked about this last week and and I found it so funny because they they put out something on social media saying they're going to have an announcement about women's blood and guts and this was like I think Saturday afternoon or something and then
07:26.594 --> 07:39.647
[SPEAKER_00]: When the show started, they said, we're going to have a major announcement regarding a revamping of a major announcement regarding the format of this match and like what are they talking about?
07:39.667 --> 07:42.710
[SPEAKER_00]: Like they haven't even announced a match yet and they're already announcing changes to it.
07:43.371 --> 07:47.095
[SPEAKER_00]: And I guess the big announcement was, oh, it's going to be six on six.
07:48.256 --> 07:55.403
[SPEAKER_00]: And it very quickly dawned on me why it's six on six because if you look at the teams,
07:55.872 --> 08:02.357
[SPEAKER_00]: There are teams that are of people that were involved and were feuding and were all over these shows for the last three months.
08:03.822 --> 08:04.043
[SPEAKER_00]: And
08:05.086 --> 08:14.923
[SPEAKER_00]: And then you had Tony added on one side and Mercedes added on the other side and I'm sure it was the network came to them and said you're not doing this match unless you put some stars in it.
08:17.146 --> 08:30.469
[SPEAKER_01]: Like I think you know like otherwise this is a collision match right like all these other other wise all I think it is I have normal dialed my head and he got that's ratings death that's what I'll call this match.
08:30.449 --> 08:40.989
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but now you got, you know, you got Mercedes and Tony and yeah, and then, you know, and now all men out as out, mean as in, so that's probably, you know, I am sad about that.
08:41.470 --> 08:45.758
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, could you have imagined I'm an out at a blood and guts match?
08:45.738 --> 08:46.639
[SPEAKER_01]: Kill it.
08:46.879 --> 08:47.860
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, my amusement.
08:48.000 --> 08:52.484
[SPEAKER_01]: I am here for this, but I am also vastly disappointed.
08:52.544 --> 08:54.286
[SPEAKER_01]: And I told you this before we went on the air.
08:55.467 --> 09:13.483
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, instead of doing an angle and making some sort of storyline out of it, or you know, Oh, we cut the the heel team cuts a promo about what they're going to do to the rest of the baby faces once they get them inside two steel cages something something to titulate me a little bit.
09:13.463 --> 09:16.335
[SPEAKER_01]: Your average television viewer of wrestling.
09:17.041 --> 09:18.923
[SPEAKER_01]: Instead, it's the doctor took about.
09:18.943 --> 09:22.908
[SPEAKER_01]: So we just replaced it with, with Mina, which is a different kind of titillation.
09:23.169 --> 09:27.234
[SPEAKER_01]: But nevertheless, we move on with that terrible joke that I just made.
09:27.614 --> 09:34.583
[SPEAKER_00]: So the doctor is, yeah, box office boys, yes.
09:35.284 --> 09:41.732
[SPEAKER_00]: And they, and they also, well, no, you know what, well, I don't know if I should save this for the recap of the show.
09:41.993 --> 09:45.377
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I will, actually.
09:45.357 --> 10:07.399
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so they just and the other thing was that the okay, so we had the the challenge that was made I don't know what it was six weeks ago, maybe longer and it was Jamie Hayter said and she had queen and almond out of a cider and she challenged she said there's only one way to settle this plot and guts and everyone went yeah the way I'm getting a fucking next match
10:07.750 --> 10:12.899
[SPEAKER_00]: And then it was never mentioned again, and I shouldn't say never because occasionally they would bring it up.
10:13.680 --> 10:16.024
[SPEAKER_00]: They would say there's going to be a blood and guts match.
10:16.245 --> 10:17.306
[SPEAKER_00]: They wouldn't tell us who's in it.
10:18.268 --> 10:29.387
[SPEAKER_00]: And then at one point about three weeks ago, Excalibur started hammering home the fact that Aminata and Hater made the challenge, but it was not accepted.
10:29.553 --> 10:41.368
[SPEAKER_00]: And then at that point, they were also clearly building to a mens blood and guts match, so I foolishly assumed, no, no, they're they're changing plans and they're doing a men's instead of a women's and I'm like, okay, that's fine.
10:41.388 --> 10:42.009
[SPEAKER_00]: That makes sense.
10:42.370 --> 10:44.312
[SPEAKER_00]: They're already doing a women's tag team tournament.
10:44.332 --> 10:47.536
[SPEAKER_00]: They don't need to be doing a women's blood and guts match.
10:47.556 --> 10:52.543
[SPEAKER_00]: And then Saturday afternoon, they announced, oh, we're doing a women's blood and guts match.
10:53.664 --> 10:56.708
[SPEAKER_00]: And then today, they went into full gear.
10:56.890 --> 11:02.116
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, pun unintended actually promoting this as best they could.
11:02.156 --> 11:04.939
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, with, you know, a mat.
11:05.079 --> 11:09.023
[SPEAKER_00]: They have this goofy series of matches where you have to win two out of three.
11:09.103 --> 11:10.745
[SPEAKER_00]: I said, you know what, I'll take that back.
11:11.026 --> 11:12.027
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not a goofy series.
11:12.127 --> 11:12.988
[SPEAKER_00]: It's actually a cool idea.
11:13.708 --> 11:14.670
[SPEAKER_00]: Two out of three matches.
11:14.690 --> 11:18.414
[SPEAKER_00]: You got to win in order to get the man advantage or the woman advantage in the match.
11:18.494 --> 11:21.497
[SPEAKER_01]: I can kind of like make the coin flip great again.
11:22.203 --> 11:29.416
[SPEAKER_01]: Because it's a much easier road to go down, where you just flip, oh, you lost the coin flip, so the heels are going first.
11:29.737 --> 11:30.539
[SPEAKER_01]: That's all you need.
11:30.839 --> 11:34.005
[SPEAKER_01]: In fact, just make it heels go first because it's okay.
11:34.466 --> 11:38.854
[SPEAKER_00]: But I will say, I would say that I think there's a story to be told in the men's match.
11:39.535 --> 11:43.603
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm actually, yeah, I think Moxie's gonna lose.
11:43.769 --> 11:44.530
[SPEAKER_00]: I do too.
11:45.572 --> 11:45.752
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
11:45.932 --> 11:50.098
[SPEAKER_00]: And I mean, it doesn't work for the baby faces, but I think it does work for the deathwriters.
11:50.779 --> 11:52.341
[SPEAKER_00]: You have the man this advantage.
11:52.902 --> 11:58.570
[SPEAKER_00]: And then moxley be the one that cost his team because there's a story there with them not wanting him.
11:59.010 --> 12:01.253
[SPEAKER_00]: And you can also further that story into the women's match.
12:01.414 --> 12:12.409
[SPEAKER_00]: If Marina somehow gets the win for her team that, you know, now, okay, she won for her team, but mox ended up being the reason that the
12:12.811 --> 12:14.995
[SPEAKER_01]: Right, they should be telling that story harder, though.
12:15.335 --> 12:16.738
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, they're not even hinting at it.
12:17.359 --> 12:21.506
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's, if he's going to be the sabisco, make him the sabisco, man.
12:21.987 --> 12:24.731
[SPEAKER_00]: Why is, why is, uh, in storyline?
12:25.373 --> 12:27.656
[SPEAKER_00]: Why is Marine in this, in this button, that's match.
12:28.959 --> 12:30.702
[SPEAKER_01]: Because, uh, Penelope can't be.
12:32.184 --> 12:33.807
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, why was Penelope in the match?
12:34.951 --> 12:36.414
[SPEAKER_01]: because she's with Megan Bane.
12:37.335 --> 12:38.858
[SPEAKER_00]: Why is Megan Bane in the match?
12:39.579 --> 12:43.045
[SPEAKER_01]: Because they beat up Jamie Heater and I'm not a, oh no, no, no, no, no.
12:43.085 --> 12:45.930
[SPEAKER_00]: The answer to every one of these questions is because Renee announced it.
12:46.692 --> 12:47.473
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, that's true.
12:47.573 --> 12:48.274
[SPEAKER_01]: I know that.
12:48.294 --> 12:49.336
[SPEAKER_00]: I've tried this.
12:49.356 --> 12:53.924
[SPEAKER_00]: That is the reason, you know, because that was it, that pissed me off so much.
12:54.305 --> 12:56.689
[SPEAKER_00]: Because can you imagine if,
12:57.631 --> 13:01.658
[SPEAKER_00]: the instead of what they did last week, which, you know, some people liked it, some people did, and I thought it was fine.
13:02.399 --> 13:04.743
[SPEAKER_00]: Actually, I didn't hear anybody say they didn't like it.
13:05.223 --> 13:09.611
[SPEAKER_00]: The Mark Briscoe and Orange Cassie make in the challenge, you know, it's forgotten gut.
13:09.851 --> 13:15.901
[SPEAKER_00]: They actually made the challenge, and presumably the death rioters accepted, and you had your clearly defined teams.
13:16.402 --> 13:20.128
[SPEAKER_00]: You had the conglomeration and Darby, you had the death rioters.
13:20.783 --> 13:22.565
[SPEAKER_00]: And here, we didn't get a challenge.
13:22.606 --> 13:23.667
[SPEAKER_00]: We didn't get an exception.
13:23.727 --> 13:25.129
[SPEAKER_00]: We got an announcement.
13:25.610 --> 13:26.851
[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, we picked some teams.
13:27.873 --> 13:30.216
[SPEAKER_00]: And then tonight on Dynamite, oh, get this.
13:31.097 --> 13:33.180
[SPEAKER_00]: Because I'll probably forget this when we get to the recap.
13:33.380 --> 13:34.482
[SPEAKER_00]: And you probably didn't hear it.
13:35.023 --> 13:36.365
[SPEAKER_00]: Because I'm watching on Triller.
13:38.147 --> 13:42.113
[SPEAKER_00]: Supposedly, the storyline is, because Excalibur asked Tony this.
13:42.934 --> 13:47.500
[SPEAKER_00]: So what was your thought process in picking people for your team?
13:48.948 --> 13:53.814
[SPEAKER_00]: And then she says, oh, well, I called up Wendy Richter and she wasn't available.
13:54.835 --> 13:57.799
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, so I went with Mina and then she was like, of course, I picked Mina.
13:57.839 --> 13:59.962
[SPEAKER_00]: She's my, you know, and they did this thing about her.
14:00.002 --> 14:00.863
[SPEAKER_00]: She's my wife.
14:01.023 --> 14:02.165
[SPEAKER_01]: Shut up, it's caliber.
14:02.645 --> 14:14.280
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, but, but, so that the idea now is that Tony, who has was not even involved in this at all at any point ever, pick teams for blood and guts.
14:14.412 --> 14:22.314
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's the storyline, that's canon, but I guess you only know it if you watched on trailer.
14:22.334 --> 14:27.568
[SPEAKER_00]: So people that didn't that I would just watch on TBS probably a no idea what we're talking about.
14:27.688 --> 14:30.075
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I want to.
14:30.275 --> 14:34.319
[SPEAKER_01]: I want, I want, I, I like the stipulation for the Briscoe match.
14:34.539 --> 14:40.204
[SPEAKER_01]: I, I want, I want there to be a stipulation for blood and gut so that would mean something, but then again, I also want to build.
14:40.264 --> 14:41.265
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm not going to get that.
14:41.325 --> 14:45.729
[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't want the, the death writers need to break up if they lose type of a thing.
14:45.789 --> 14:50.873
[SPEAKER_00]: Did I call that, did I call that you didn't, did I call that you didn't reflect your briscoe?
14:50.893 --> 14:52.735
[SPEAKER_01]: I, uh, yes, you did, I believe.
14:53.335 --> 14:58.560
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I thought it was a good idea.
15:00.008 --> 15:03.275
[SPEAKER_00]: give me the transferring heat, transferring heat wins the internet today.
15:03.295 --> 15:06.060
[SPEAKER_00]: I think the winner button got to get a belt.
15:06.641 --> 15:08.405
[SPEAKER_00]: We're the blood and guts champion.
15:09.146 --> 15:09.427
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
15:09.447 --> 15:15.139
[SPEAKER_00]: And we're going to merge that with a TNT title or something, which brings us to our other story.
15:15.840 --> 15:16.361
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
15:16.381 --> 15:19.367
[SPEAKER_00]: Before we get into the recap, they opened up the show today.
15:20.309 --> 15:22.452
[SPEAKER_00]: with Tony Shavani in the ring announcing.
15:22.492 --> 15:26.258
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's a weird, because he did his twice, right?
15:27.080 --> 15:29.243
[SPEAKER_00]: He did two in ring announcements about this title.
15:29.303 --> 15:30.425
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, I wasn't imagining it.
15:30.746 --> 15:34.031
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, he was interrupted the first time by Joe.
15:34.752 --> 15:39.399
[SPEAKER_00]: So he had to act like a fact and redo the big announcement.
15:39.720 --> 15:40.181
[SPEAKER_00]: Gotcha.
15:40.421 --> 15:43.766
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, and that's another thing, but we'll say that one for the recap.
15:43.907 --> 15:47.312
[SPEAKER_00]: But they, and this is funny because I always talk about
15:47.292 --> 15:52.619
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, oh, you know, like, if you weren't on social media, you didn't know about this blah blah, but, but it mean me, my life was.
15:52.699 --> 15:55.363
[SPEAKER_00]: So I did, but I'm assuming that there's people that didn't.
15:56.544 --> 16:00.289
[SPEAKER_00]: I had no idea about this extra title until Tony mentioned it on television.
16:01.050 --> 16:02.512
[SPEAKER_01]: I had in the announcement.
16:02.853 --> 16:03.794
[SPEAKER_00]: So I would.
16:03.814 --> 16:04.695
[SPEAKER_00]: So it was new to you, too.
16:06.658 --> 16:06.978
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
16:07.058 --> 16:07.399
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
16:07.419 --> 16:08.220
[SPEAKER_01]: And it didn't.
16:08.240 --> 16:13.587
[SPEAKER_01]: So it wasn't, it wasn't to welcome announcement to me, but please go on.
16:13.887 --> 16:16.710
[SPEAKER_00]: No, so they announced another title.
16:17.050 --> 16:18.251
[SPEAKER_00]: It's going to be the national title.
16:19.612 --> 16:23.736
[SPEAKER_00]: It's going to be the first champion will be determined at full gear.
16:23.776 --> 16:29.762
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'll save how they're going to announce it when until we do the recap.
16:29.782 --> 16:33.465
[SPEAKER_00]: But because then he came out later and explained how the champion was going to be determined.
16:33.946 --> 16:41.633
[SPEAKER_00]: But I guess the idea behind this belt is it's going to be a belt, it's going to be defended, not only in AW, but in other companies that AW works with.
16:42.608 --> 16:46.714
[SPEAKER_00]: So theoretically, we've been doing this road.
16:47.595 --> 16:49.878
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's talk about the same idea here.
16:50.099 --> 16:51.641
[SPEAKER_01]: All Atlantic championship.
16:52.141 --> 16:52.943
[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.
16:52.963 --> 16:53.584
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
16:53.624 --> 16:54.445
[SPEAKER_01]: What we really need.
16:54.485 --> 16:54.665
[SPEAKER_01]: No.
16:54.745 --> 16:57.469
[SPEAKER_01]: See, guys, you guys are being far too modern.
16:57.990 --> 17:03.998
[SPEAKER_01]: What we need is now is the A-W-Bress Knuckles Championship and the A-W Western States Heritage Title.
17:04.138 --> 17:04.479
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
17:04.879 --> 17:06.101
[SPEAKER_00]: The Western Heritage.
17:06.542 --> 17:07.023
[SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely.
17:07.563 --> 17:10.928
[SPEAKER_01]: The National Title.
17:12.022 --> 17:25.845
[SPEAKER_01]: The national title was a title bought by Cracket when they bought the Georgia territory that had been around like only a couple years and was mostly for the spoiler before he jetted for WWF.
17:26.399 --> 17:29.162
[SPEAKER_01]: And then it came into the end of the way.
17:29.722 --> 17:31.764
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think three or four people held it.
17:31.924 --> 17:33.145
[SPEAKER_01]: The Wahoo held it.
17:33.586 --> 17:40.452
[SPEAKER_01]: It's infamously, it's most famous one when it had prestige was Tully, Tully had it for a while.
17:41.073 --> 17:43.736
[SPEAKER_01]: And then they get, and then eventually buddy Landel got it.
17:43.796 --> 17:49.261
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's when he got fired for using cocaine, the morning of a TV taping, and no showed.
17:50.162 --> 17:53.605
[SPEAKER_01]: And so they eventually, and then they put Valentine out.
17:54.209 --> 18:06.075
[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no
18:07.085 --> 18:09.388
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, wait, it goes way back to the early 80s.
18:09.428 --> 18:10.349
[SPEAKER_01]: I want to go that far back.
18:10.450 --> 18:11.671
[SPEAKER_01]: Austin, Idleyer, first one.
18:11.691 --> 18:32.940
[SPEAKER_01]: But famously in Georgia, it was like the super destroyer, orndorfe, mass super star, orndorfe, killer Jim Brooks, Larry Zabisco, vacated, Larry Zabisco, Mr. Wrestling 2, Larry Zabisco, Brett Sawyer, Ted DBSI, Brad Armstrong, the spoiler, Brad Armstrong, the spoiler, Ted DBSI, Ron Garvin,
18:33.848 --> 18:40.635
[SPEAKER_01]: And then it was, and then it was given to a black Bart, I remember him being the first one 85 to have it in crock it.
18:40.655 --> 18:47.442
[SPEAKER_01]: And then black Bart Terry Taylor, buddy landale dusty, Tully Wahoo, and then the key to co-off.
18:47.462 --> 18:55.871
[SPEAKER_01]: And then was deactivated until the late 90s when a bunch of geeks added and he mentioned Nikita in his promo.
18:55.891 --> 19:02.218
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, well, I mean, that was also the one where it was, I was unified with the US title at that, uh,
19:02.198 --> 19:02.638
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
19:02.939 --> 19:05.822
[SPEAKER_01]: So, I mean, that was a pretty good set of matches too.
19:05.962 --> 19:10.907
[SPEAKER_01]: I believe, was that the best of seven with Magnum to unify it?
19:11.087 --> 19:13.209
[SPEAKER_00]: Actually, yeah, I didn't watch it.
19:13.229 --> 19:15.672
[SPEAKER_01]: And so I think it was because it was 86.
19:15.832 --> 19:18.575
[SPEAKER_01]: So that sounds, that sounds about right.
19:18.595 --> 19:20.617
[SPEAKER_01]: It was the best of 70 unify the two titles.
19:21.458 --> 19:25.822
[SPEAKER_01]: But it's always kind of been a, it's their title.
19:26.223 --> 19:29.286
[SPEAKER_01]: It's, I mean, a lot of great wrestlers held it, but
19:29.266 --> 19:32.350
[SPEAKER_01]: But it didn't mean anything after 1986 for the most part.
19:32.430 --> 19:35.373
[SPEAKER_01]: So I mean, you're going way, way back in the air.
19:35.393 --> 19:40.920
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you could have dusted off the Western states here and Adri, you could have dusted off and you could have made up your own thing.
19:41.320 --> 19:42.141
[SPEAKER_01]: But let's face it.
19:42.201 --> 19:55.797
[SPEAKER_01]: This is for that ridiculous demand, hurts and to get feud, to give it some more meaning because we've already run it against each other five times.
19:55.777 --> 20:08.873
[SPEAKER_00]: I predicted as soon as the hurts in the kick came out and I put this in these show thread and I was the first one to say it You know, this on the fucking meter discord That Rick stays gonna be that first champion.
20:09.574 --> 20:20.527
[SPEAKER_01]: No No 100% yes, it's a I think it's a contractual obligation to give Bobby Lashley and AEW You think Bobby Lashley is going in touring.
20:20.567 --> 20:25.193
[SPEAKER_01]: No, I think he's gonna drop it before that first tour ever happens
20:25.527 --> 20:27.849
[SPEAKER_00]: I, I don't think so.
20:27.989 --> 20:29.731
[SPEAKER_00]: I because he doesn't have to lose this match.
20:30.371 --> 20:33.334
[SPEAKER_00]: I. I listen, you know what, you might be right.
20:33.394 --> 20:36.417
[SPEAKER_00]: It might be ricochet, but, but John agrees with you.
20:36.457 --> 20:37.958
[SPEAKER_00]: He thinks Bobby last year.
20:38.219 --> 20:44.304
[SPEAKER_00]: What he means when he says no Bobby last year, he means no comma Bobby last year, because no, he mentioned it in a thing.
20:44.324 --> 20:52.952
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but no, I think it'll be ricochet because I ricochets been everyone's given ricochet a hard time about the fact that he hasn't had any belts.
20:52.932 --> 20:53.934
[SPEAKER_00]: on Twitter.
20:54.034 --> 20:54.495
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
20:54.515 --> 21:01.228
[SPEAKER_01]: And so he can be King Ricochet or whatever with this title that'll eventually get merged with Jason's content.
21:01.248 --> 21:02.811
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's correct opinion here.
21:03.292 --> 21:04.995
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think that tour ever happened.
21:05.015 --> 21:05.797
[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no.
21:05.937 --> 21:10.165
[SPEAKER_01]: It'll get defended in other companies and by other companies, I mean ring of honor.
21:11.275 --> 21:27.909
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, I don't think it's going up there like defy or it's a new Japan Navy, you know, New Japan did announce a US show their first one in a long time coming in New Jersey I believe in January.
21:28.229 --> 21:32.558
[SPEAKER_00]: So I can see Rick and Shay on that show if he wins a belt or whoever wins a belt
21:34.394 --> 21:52.430
[SPEAKER_00]: Because because New Japan doesn't have enough silly belts with like the never open white championship, although there is some there is some stuff I've heard going on with Tony Khan and and his partner and people aren't terribly happy about things going on now.
21:53.331 --> 21:55.693
[SPEAKER_01]: Is there anything you will wait till after the show will tell.
21:55.713 --> 21:57.615
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, no, no, no, I can talk about this.
21:57.655 --> 22:04.401
[SPEAKER_00]: I think some of it's public just you know like Tony like I think there's some.
22:04.381 --> 22:18.521
[SPEAKER_00]: The Nakamura rumors part of it, I think, and then the Cechto Cata, you know, like, I think there's, you know, there may be somebody wants to match here, somebody wants to match there, somebody doesn't want somebody to lose, you know, like that sort of thing.
22:19.222 --> 22:28.195
[SPEAKER_00]: And you recall last year when John Moxley had the world title for New Japan, he had a scheduled title defense.
22:28.293 --> 22:37.278
[SPEAKER_00]: coming up in Japan and Tony Khan randomly on a Monday announced, oh, there's a power of hobs, jaw moxie match that's happening on Wednesday.
22:37.298 --> 22:43.635
[SPEAKER_00]: We're making it for the IWGP title and they got pissed because it's like we don't do that with our title.
22:43.615 --> 22:45.618
[SPEAKER_00]: And Tony just didn't anyways.
22:46.940 --> 22:50.484
[SPEAKER_00]: And so it's not all rosy in there.
22:50.524 --> 23:04.003
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I mean, I'm not saying the relation is falling apart or anything like that, but there's some some issues and you know, I think there's a relationship falling apart, Paul font.
23:04.085 --> 23:22.709
[SPEAKER_00]: I think and I think there's a perception amongst people in New Japan that when people go to a W to do a match or a series of matches and they get over, then they pretty much done with New Japan because now Tony Collins got his eyes on them and he offers them more money than New Japan can pay them.
23:23.430 --> 23:26.734
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's exactly the W W does with all their partners.
23:27.068 --> 23:31.857
[SPEAKER_01]: You two could be a midcard with a sheet on collision losing every map.
23:31.918 --> 23:34.543
[SPEAKER_00]: Kid, you know, you're dead right now.
23:34.603 --> 23:39.994
[SPEAKER_00]: We'll just forget it because nobody remembers that angle and dead serious about going to it.
23:40.014 --> 23:41.076
[SPEAKER_00]: She had scratchy land.
23:41.196 --> 23:42.278
[SPEAKER_00]: That's what there you go.
23:42.298 --> 23:42.799
[SPEAKER_00]: There you go.
23:42.779 --> 23:44.081
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, let's get into this show.
23:44.261 --> 23:52.935
[SPEAKER_01]: So let's get into this show, but let me give an overall thing because I've realized one of the things that has been kind of annoying me in wrestling a little bit.
23:52.955 --> 24:01.188
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's one of these things we're listening to Garrett on both fight game and on the Friday Observer, a bit of on-way in the fandom.
24:01.208 --> 24:10.542
[SPEAKER_01]: And somebody in the voices of wrestling discord in the old school channel goes, you know, when I want to kick back and relax,
24:11.230 --> 24:13.975
[SPEAKER_01]: My favorite thing to watch is Brad Armstrong matches.
24:15.277 --> 24:18.202
[SPEAKER_01]: And I looked at that, and I went, how sad.
24:18.242 --> 24:22.089
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, I like Brad Armstrong, great wrestler.
24:22.350 --> 24:24.774
[SPEAKER_01]: Don't give me wrong, technically sound, all that other stuff.
24:26.397 --> 24:32.087
[SPEAKER_01]: But I'd rather watch paint dry, than watch Brad Armstrong feuds and whatnot.
24:32.508 --> 24:35.533
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's the problem, as wrestling has become,
24:35.952 --> 24:50.130
[SPEAKER_01]: A series of Brad Armstrong matches where the actual participants themselves are boring, but the matches are really, really good in terms of technical expertise and stuff like that.
24:50.251 --> 24:52.674
[SPEAKER_01]: And it makes wrestling a boring product.
24:53.154 --> 24:59.783
[SPEAKER_01]: All the things that make wrestling fun have been ripped out because everybody thinks they're associated with WWE.
24:59.763 --> 25:01.725
[SPEAKER_01]: and it just kills me, Paul.
25:02.146 --> 25:17.425
[SPEAKER_01]: I want to see angles and promos and what are you going to do to somebody once you get them in that double cage and hey, you know lives into somebody like only Anderson say oh it's a chance to legally break somebody's arm in a cage or something like that.
25:17.825 --> 25:20.449
[SPEAKER_01]: Give me something and it said it's just here's the match.
25:21.150 --> 25:22.331
[SPEAKER_00]: Enjoy it.
25:22.752 --> 25:29.500
[SPEAKER_00]: We didn't get any promos
25:29.935 --> 25:47.590
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so yeah, and watch next week, we got six women on each side and none of them and five on five match that we, you know, is happening, but there's no stakes and everybody involved has got better things to do in a week after that, but here we go.
25:47.992 --> 25:51.299
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, so they started the show, they showed a recap of of the thing.
25:51.319 --> 26:01.120
[SPEAKER_00]: They pated themselves on the back a little bit showing, uh, hang man out on a page dressed up as Tony Shavani, and then Shavani's in the ring and he's going to make his announcement about the national championship.
26:01.180 --> 26:06.591
[SPEAKER_00]: But as you mentioned earlier, small Joe's music hit and the ops came out and interrupted.
26:06.571 --> 26:32.983
[SPEAKER_00]: Joe says we got a problem and it applies to this person in the ring and he says I know Giovanni is going to try and tell you nothing to do with what happened last week but I don't believe him and Giovanni said hey I respect you but Joe just yelled at him and shut up and there's consequences for those that engage with us and we're coming here for George's peach and then they try to get in the ring but security got in there to save Tony which never happened so I guess he's got friends in high places.
26:32.963 --> 26:36.908
[SPEAKER_00]: and uh, and then Joe said to ask why he's just getting more people hurt.
26:36.928 --> 26:48.461
[SPEAKER_00]: So then hangman page comes out, makes a save, and uh, and then, uh, he gets the ring, and then, uh, Eddie Kingston hook quickly follow Kingston for some reason is carrying a crutch.
26:48.561 --> 26:54.448
[SPEAKER_00]: I have no idea why, but I just had worked in this instance because he was able to
26:55.002 --> 27:01.711
[SPEAKER_00]: And then hang man says, if you want to handle your problem, uh, beat your ass, it right here in my wranglers.
27:02.051 --> 27:06.157
[SPEAKER_00]: And then hook takes the mic and he says, you guys are trios champions.
27:06.697 --> 27:07.639
[SPEAKER_00]: I won them with you.
27:07.699 --> 27:11.964
[SPEAKER_00]: But now tonight, uh, I want you guys to be fighting champions.
27:11.984 --> 27:14.147
[SPEAKER_00]: So you should put those titles online against us.
27:14.688 --> 27:16.770
[SPEAKER_00]: And then Joe gets all flustered and accepts the challenge.
27:17.431 --> 27:19.474
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, hold on a second.
27:19.606 --> 27:20.428
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, okay.
27:20.448 --> 27:20.728
[SPEAKER_01]: Good.
27:20.829 --> 27:35.038
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm glad you were there, but but give me give me a moment before you say the logical thing here that I know you're gonna say, okay, so Do you think Joe was actually confused as whether that Tony was involved in the angle last week?
27:35.840 --> 27:38.205
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what Joe was thinking.
27:38.185 --> 27:58.495
[SPEAKER_00]: First of all, okay, putting that aside when I when I was doing the right up for this match, you know, the preview for the show I should say I saw that that match was happening and I had no idea because I watched collision and it hadn't been announced on collision so I assume it's been announced at some point between collision and today and I'll be honest I've been in Vegas.
27:58.635 --> 28:01.900
[SPEAKER_00]: I got better things to do than following a W on Twitter.
28:01.920 --> 28:04.243
[SPEAKER_00]: I thought they had made this match.
28:04.510 --> 28:07.576
[SPEAKER_01]: This last week on dynamite.
28:08.157 --> 28:08.477
[SPEAKER_00]: Was it?
28:09.038 --> 28:09.940
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, it was.
28:09.980 --> 28:10.200
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
28:10.701 --> 28:11.843
[SPEAKER_00]: That's why it's laughing.
28:11.883 --> 28:12.464
[SPEAKER_00]: We go ahead.
28:12.945 --> 28:13.587
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, okay.
28:13.607 --> 28:16.251
[SPEAKER_00]: So whatever it was made, I didn't know was made last week.
28:16.372 --> 28:17.914
[SPEAKER_00]: I, you know, if it was, I forgot.
28:17.995 --> 28:18.576
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's on me.
28:19.257 --> 28:21.000
[SPEAKER_00]: But it was an on-title match.
28:22.027 --> 28:31.681
[SPEAKER_00]: and then hook, challenge them to put it up, put up the title, and then Joe accepted, and my thought was, why did they even bother announcing the match ahead of time?
28:32.061 --> 28:34.545
[SPEAKER_00]: Why not just do this angle and then make the match?
28:35.987 --> 28:42.376
[SPEAKER_00]: Like that would make more sense to me, because I bet you most people watching had no idea this match was scheduled for tonight.
28:42.956 --> 28:45.520
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like, so you know why they didn't do it?
28:45.837 --> 28:47.679
[SPEAKER_00]: because that's with WWE does.
28:48.280 --> 28:49.761
[SPEAKER_00]: And they don't want to be like WWE.
28:49.781 --> 28:50.822
[SPEAKER_00]: So we're going to do it differently.
28:50.842 --> 28:55.647
[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to announce a non-title match ahead of time and then do an angle at the beginning of the show to make it a title match.
28:56.488 --> 28:56.888
[SPEAKER_01]: OK.
28:57.349 --> 28:57.769
[SPEAKER_01]: Question.
28:57.789 --> 28:59.411
[SPEAKER_01]: Did the stakes matter in the match?
29:00.252 --> 29:01.773
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, yeah, it was for the titles.
29:02.654 --> 29:07.479
[SPEAKER_01]: No, but I mean, did it actually play into anything having to do in the match at the end?
29:07.499 --> 29:07.880
[SPEAKER_00]: What match?
29:08.220 --> 29:08.580
[SPEAKER_01]: What do you mean?
29:09.261 --> 29:10.042
[SPEAKER_01]: The main event.
29:10.382 --> 29:11.764
[SPEAKER_01]: Did the titles change hands?
29:12.144 --> 29:14.967
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, no, but I mean, they could have.
29:15.993 --> 29:17.595
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, like I didn't think they would.
29:18.816 --> 29:23.800
[SPEAKER_00]: I said, oh, they're tweet hoping that it was going to make air and said, uh, is hanging out about to become a champion?
29:24.321 --> 29:28.044
[SPEAKER_00]: I thought that was just hanging off to get on TV, but you sent us simple chat.
29:28.585 --> 29:29.025
[SPEAKER_00]: I did.
29:29.085 --> 29:29.986
[SPEAKER_00]: I did.
29:30.026 --> 29:30.967
[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't get picked up.
29:31.548 --> 29:32.308
[SPEAKER_00]: I did get a like.
29:32.369 --> 29:33.069
[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you, Debbie.
29:36.713 --> 29:38.134
[SPEAKER_01]: No, I mean, I was fine.
29:38.154 --> 29:40.857
[SPEAKER_01]: I looked, they tried to get hook on the mic.
29:41.217 --> 29:43.960
[SPEAKER_01]: He just doesn't bring anything with it.
29:43.980 --> 29:45.561
[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no.
29:46.739 --> 29:51.404
[SPEAKER_00]: No, so yeah, so we got a main event, and it's for the titles, and it's coming up later tonight.
29:51.624 --> 29:52.245
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's fine.
29:53.186 --> 30:00.453
[SPEAKER_00]: And we get into Orange Cassie and Claudio Cassie and only in match one of the blood versus blood and guts advantage battle that we talked about early.
30:00.473 --> 30:02.075
[SPEAKER_00]: You got your team's got to win two out of three.
30:02.495 --> 30:03.837
[SPEAKER_00]: So this is exactly what you said.
30:04.117 --> 30:05.258
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, is a good match.
30:06.039 --> 30:07.160
[SPEAKER_00]: The guys in it are boring.
30:07.240 --> 30:14.468
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, Orange Cassie, you know, he does some fun stuff for people like puts his hands in his pants and does kip ups with his hands in his pants and
30:14.448 --> 30:34.650
[SPEAKER_00]: He makes beatings with his hands in his pants and Claudio lifts him up by the by the jeans and that was cool and Claudio gets pops even though he's a heel and and they even pointed out that everybody loves it when he does the Airplane swing yeah, I mean or yeah the giant swing meanwhile like he's a heel
30:34.630 --> 30:55.398
[SPEAKER_00]: And they had a cool combo when it finished because Claudio blocked orange punch, blocked the orange punch with a pop up uppercut, then he tried it again, but Cassidy hit the orange punch and then he went for it again, but then this time casting only hit the pop up uppercut and won it and he's like a second time now, he's actually won with the uppercut.
30:55.418 --> 30:55.959
[SPEAKER_00]: So I mean, it's a good.
30:56.159 --> 31:00.705
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm finally excited that his offense means something.
31:00.938 --> 31:09.750
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but, but again, like, and then this goes for the whole show, like I looked at this line up tonight as I was putting the notes for this show together and it was like
31:10.709 --> 31:18.881
[SPEAKER_00]: Even though I bet you some of these matches are new, like this feels like every episode of Dynamite that I've ever seen, at least for the last six months.
31:18.941 --> 31:24.950
[SPEAKER_00]: Like it's the same people having the same matches and you know what's gonna happen.
31:25.351 --> 31:29.677
[SPEAKER_00]: And I mean, it's fine if you like good wrestling, but there's nothing like compelling.
31:30.439 --> 31:34.304
[SPEAKER_00]: And I was just listening to Garrett and Dave have a conversation on wrestling as a radio.
31:34.465 --> 31:38.691
[SPEAKER_00]: And they were talking about how like the people that go to Dave's house to watch the paper views.
31:41.489 --> 31:45.934
[SPEAKER_00]: They didn't watch dynamite like they don't watch dynamite for a whole month, and then they go to watch the movies.
31:45.954 --> 31:52.841
[SPEAKER_00]: They really enjoy the paper views because they're good matches and everything, but like they're not watching this TV because it doesn't matter, and then notice television matters.
31:53.562 --> 31:56.045
[SPEAKER_00]: Like it's just, you know, we're booking matches.
31:56.726 --> 32:00.510
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, that's my point since I joined this show.
32:00.530 --> 32:01.751
[SPEAKER_01]: I know.
32:01.791 --> 32:06.316
[SPEAKER_01]: It's the television is the advertisement for your paper views, and it should be.
32:06.396 --> 32:07.918
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not just there to
32:09.046 --> 32:13.583
[SPEAKER_01]: uh uh uh there's a big argument on the board about this too about whether or not tone.
32:16.876 --> 32:18.321
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh.
32:18.341 --> 32:19.566
[SPEAKER_00]: Lost Jeff third or second.
32:19.867 --> 32:20.068
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh.
32:20.960 --> 32:33.839
[SPEAKER_01]: All the wrestling, yeah, all the wrestling observer readers are just like, oh, I love this show blah, blah, blah, blah, and brands like, no, you actually have to try to make good television to bring in new viewers and stuff like that.
32:33.859 --> 32:46.478
[SPEAKER_01]: And everybody's repiling against him because like, why do we need video recaps because we don't need to be spoon fed every single linear television show has a previously on.
32:47.504 --> 32:48.986
[SPEAKER_01]: Before they go to the next chapter.
32:49.667 --> 32:54.796
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, I just, yeah, I don't get into John news arguments.
32:55.637 --> 32:56.298
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sorry.
32:56.318 --> 33:06.595
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, he took exception to me and other people saying that Tony is an excellent matchmaker, but the booking is not very compelling.
33:07.697 --> 33:09.259
[SPEAKER_00]: And he doesn't think there's a difference.
33:11.450 --> 33:13.072
[SPEAKER_00]: So and he's done the booking.
33:13.152 --> 33:13.753
[SPEAKER_00]: So you know what?
33:14.093 --> 33:24.325
[SPEAKER_00]: I defer to John there because he does he he's done booking and I haven't So Did you sound like let's let's move on yeah, yeah, let's move on.
33:24.345 --> 33:30.552
[SPEAKER_00]: So death right at our point nothing Then we get Renee Peket backstage with Mark Briscoe and Kyle Fletcher and Tom Cal.
33:30.693 --> 33:37.120
[SPEAKER_00]: So I was a standing there like they're all good buddies And Renee thanks them for agreeing to no physicality, but
33:37.100 --> 33:43.693
[SPEAKER_00]: based on the demeanor in this interview like there was no chance there was going to be any physical because these guys came off like they were best friends.
33:45.336 --> 33:55.255
[SPEAKER_00]: It was funny because so brisco says at the last match I thought your thought process was a swift kick to your fan to my family jewels that helped you win.
33:55.636 --> 33:56.578
[SPEAKER_00]: Can't make you feel good.
33:56.598 --> 33:58.602
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like making out with your sister.
33:58.582 --> 34:03.229
[SPEAKER_01]: And Kyle and I said for the man, everybody corpse on this.
34:03.349 --> 34:13.763
[SPEAKER_01]: I just went on, but but don at least was going to go and you would know about making out with your sister, he tried and they tried and they cut them off on it.
34:13.783 --> 34:17.328
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Renee just she couldn't she couldn't hold it back.
34:18.250 --> 34:21.875
[SPEAKER_00]: And then so she says, I want to make your real man and let's do it again at full gear.
34:21.955 --> 34:23.577
[SPEAKER_00]: No disqualification.
34:23.692 --> 34:37.088
[SPEAKER_00]: and Fletcher, he's got this look on his face and it's funny because the look he had on his face and Don Calis said he looks out of him and he's like, oh, you look like you're churned on and that's like exactly what he looked like.
34:37.589 --> 34:38.790
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he wanted this match.
34:38.850 --> 34:40.993
[SPEAKER_00]: He's like, he's all gone home about this match.
34:41.033 --> 34:42.575
[SPEAKER_00]: So they're going to do it.
34:42.595 --> 34:50.044
[SPEAKER_01]: He has so good at the nonverbal cues of being a professional wrestler with a title belt and a suit.
34:50.405 --> 34:52.467
[SPEAKER_01]: I just I love Fletcher in this role.
34:52.447 --> 34:53.889
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I do continue.
34:53.909 --> 34:55.190
[SPEAKER_00]: Fletcher is awesome.
34:55.611 --> 34:56.292
[SPEAKER_00]: Fletcher's awesome.
34:56.352 --> 35:00.016
[SPEAKER_00]: So, so they're so they basically agree to it, but then call us gets involved.
35:00.036 --> 35:03.761
[SPEAKER_00]: Then you know, because he's a manager and he says, you know, like we're even you a shot at the title.
35:03.861 --> 35:07.205
[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, that's what you get, but we need something from you.
35:07.385 --> 35:09.488
[SPEAKER_00]: So, and then brisk goes like, what do you want?
35:09.508 --> 35:13.733
[SPEAKER_00]: My career, do we make a career versus title and don't like, no, no, I don't want your career.
35:13.793 --> 35:14.815
[SPEAKER_00]: I love Mark brisco.
35:15.255 --> 35:16.817
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want you to retire.
35:16.797 --> 35:24.293
[SPEAKER_00]: I want you to join the Dodd-Calist family and so basically, yeah, so Briscoe called them a silver tongue snake.
35:24.313 --> 35:28.782
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not losing and it's you that made a deal with the devil and he accepted so.
35:29.285 --> 35:33.451
[SPEAKER_01]: Here we go, the should have been the last match, though, that's the problem.
35:33.471 --> 35:54.060
[SPEAKER_01]: This is the one where my first coach actually win and instead, this is now the one he should lose because we want to, we want the sympathy heat from him, reluctantly having to do these things in a course of, though, they'll pull the trigger to soon of my first coach screwing up things for the Don Calus family.
35:54.327 --> 36:00.878
[SPEAKER_01]: because he's going to do it from week one instead of waiting until like week four five to start doing it or he'll just win.
36:00.918 --> 36:06.367
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, no, that's what I'm saying he's going to win, which is the least interesting choice.
36:06.487 --> 36:06.747
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
36:07.128 --> 36:18.867
[SPEAKER_01]: And then now it's him in the brisk and this giant thing of brisco of the callous family where they could literally tear him apart 10 on one if they wanted to.
36:19.893 --> 36:25.564
[SPEAKER_01]: And he's going to do, no, he's going to be the conduit for Takeshita is what's going to happen.
36:26.626 --> 36:33.640
[SPEAKER_00]: Turn to weird thing is is that yeah, the weird thing is is that like the last paper view felt like a replay of the previous paper view.
36:33.780 --> 36:36.867
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, and this one coming up feels like a replay in the last one.
36:38.550 --> 36:41.175
[SPEAKER_00]: I like this we do have some interesting we got the
36:41.408 --> 36:47.875
[SPEAKER_00]: while we'll get to, we'll get to one of them, but we have the million dollar trio in Hatch, which we'll talk about.
36:48.636 --> 36:54.984
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know why Tony Khan keeps offering money to people that hate them and that try to kill them and stuff, but I guess he does.
36:55.764 --> 36:58.948
[SPEAKER_00]: At this point, we're not supposed to take this money seriously, right?
36:59.889 --> 37:04.935
[SPEAKER_00]: Like a million dollar trio's match with Josh Alexander in it.
37:05.455 --> 37:06.697
[SPEAKER_00]: Are we talking about it now?
37:06.737 --> 37:07.598
[SPEAKER_00]: I thought we were waiting.
37:07.618 --> 37:08.659
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, we'll talk about it later.
37:08.699 --> 37:10.662
[SPEAKER_00]: But there's another, oh, let's just actually the next segment.
37:11.162 --> 37:16.689
[SPEAKER_00]: So we're names backstage with the young bucks and they, and so they announced, I guess they announced this on collision, I think.
37:16.850 --> 37:20.735
[SPEAKER_00]: But unless it was on social media, I had, I did know about this.
37:21.255 --> 37:23.638
[SPEAKER_00]: But it's, so she's interviewing them.
37:23.719 --> 37:26.102
[SPEAKER_00]: And so it's young bucks, callous, and Josh Alexander.
37:26.622 --> 37:28.905
[SPEAKER_00]: So they're going to be facing the Jurassic Express.
37:29.025 --> 37:31.969
[SPEAKER_00]: And even sure who else is in that match.
37:31.989 --> 37:32.610
[SPEAKER_00]: Do you remember?
37:33.822 --> 37:35.646
[SPEAKER_00]: The cooler the Jurassic Express is partner.
37:35.686 --> 37:36.568
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, it's a mega, right?
37:36.808 --> 37:37.369
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it is.
37:37.389 --> 37:37.850
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a mega.
37:37.870 --> 37:38.010
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
37:38.572 --> 37:39.293
[SPEAKER_00]: So, yeah.
37:39.353 --> 37:52.159
[SPEAKER_00]: So, um, so per cad asked like, oh, does this mean you've joined the Don Cal's family and they wouldn't answer and then Cal's cut them off and said, uh, we sent you a nice care package to make sure you get the treatment that you deserve and not like some jobbers that you've been.
37:52.680 --> 37:55.105
[SPEAKER_00]: But, uh, while you're part of our team, your family.
37:55.085 --> 38:02.095
[SPEAKER_00]: And then the rest of the Calis family walked in, Calis introduced them to Ocata, which is stupid, because they were all part of the elite before.
38:02.135 --> 38:04.398
[SPEAKER_00]: And then Matt says, this is under well, overwhelming.
38:05.359 --> 38:07.042
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it was underwhelming.
38:07.062 --> 38:11.327
[SPEAKER_00]: And then Calis said, take your time leaving before leaving with the family.
38:11.368 --> 38:15.153
[SPEAKER_00]: And Ocata stuck around and told the box not to take too much time deciding.
38:15.794 --> 38:16.915
[SPEAKER_00]: Did not call them bitches?
38:17.756 --> 38:17.957
[SPEAKER_00]: No.
38:18.678 --> 38:19.519
[SPEAKER_00]: Interestingly enough.
38:19.619 --> 38:22.543
[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't think they're joining this family.
38:24.464 --> 38:25.145
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't either.
38:25.165 --> 38:48.750
[SPEAKER_00]: I think they're losing and then they'll get blamed for the loss and then they'll make it will come in for the save and yeah, so the the Akata Fadi, the Caldeo, the Akata family, you know, the Akata family, the Calus family is beating on them and then yeah, then Kenny makes a safe yeah, I could see them with the Jurassic Express and then they're all one big happy family and somehow they'll get the money.
38:49.743 --> 38:54.771
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like the rest of express will like be like, oh, I got I got Luke Perry money.
38:54.851 --> 38:56.654
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't need your money.
38:56.674 --> 38:58.698
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm still not 100% positive.
38:59.279 --> 39:01.242
[SPEAKER_00]: Jack Perry isn't going to join this cows family.
39:02.123 --> 39:05.749
[SPEAKER_00]: I just, I don't trust this guy.
39:06.390 --> 39:07.011
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know why.
39:07.051 --> 39:13.101
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe it's a knife that he carries around like threats with.
39:13.081 --> 39:16.149
[SPEAKER_01]: But just get goat mask last week.
39:16.169 --> 39:17.833
[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, what are they doing with this guy?
39:18.374 --> 39:18.474
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
39:18.495 --> 39:20.399
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I guess we'll we got more of them.
39:21.322 --> 39:26.314
[SPEAKER_00]: Then we got Mercedes one day and Athena versus the Babes Iraq.
39:27.323 --> 39:38.593
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, of course, named after the Canadian rock band, uh, little guy in the Harley Cameron, uh, in an AW women's tag team that'll tournament quarterfinal badge.
39:39.574 --> 39:45.199
[SPEAKER_00]: And, uh, and the, uh, the surprises continue in this tournament.
39:45.279 --> 39:50.984
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, everyone looked at the brackets and right away, you knew, oh, Mercedes and a theme against Tony and me and the falls.
39:51.024 --> 39:51.484
[SPEAKER_00]: That's great.
39:51.564 --> 39:52.085
[SPEAKER_00]: That's awesome.
39:52.105 --> 39:54.987
[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to have super stars as the first champions.
39:55.127 --> 39:55.828
[SPEAKER_00]: And,
39:56.163 --> 40:05.378
[SPEAKER_00]: No, we got the sisters a sin winning last week, which I guess in hindsight was good, because since Queen homin' out of got hurt, and then, you know, if they had a big vans, they would probably have to find a replacement partner.
40:05.558 --> 40:08.443
[SPEAKER_00]: We might be getting Jamie Hader and, I don't know what, Mina.
40:09.525 --> 40:10.527
[SPEAKER_00]: No, she's on another team.
40:10.787 --> 40:13.872
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know who would have filled in for, yeah, so it's a good thing that they won.
40:13.932 --> 40:16.817
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe it's not even a real injury.
40:17.097 --> 40:18.660
[SPEAKER_00]: No, I think it probably is.
40:18.877 --> 40:24.864
[SPEAKER_00]: But anyways, yeah, so is a thin end and Mercedes against Willow and Harley Cameron.
40:25.084 --> 40:31.031
[SPEAKER_00]: And they had a fun match, it was, you know, just, you know, a lot of what she'd expect.
40:31.131 --> 40:32.252
[SPEAKER_00]: Athena looked really great.
40:32.292 --> 40:42.524
[SPEAKER_00]: She had this one spot where she gave Willow and Harley like a double suplex, like, oh, no, no, she had, she had, she had Willow on her back.
40:42.664 --> 40:46.048
[SPEAKER_01]: And then Harley, for a while, I said,
40:46.130 --> 40:47.252
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, small drug.
40:47.272 --> 40:47.492
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
40:47.973 --> 40:49.035
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that looked really cool.
40:49.095 --> 40:49.976
[SPEAKER_00]: And it was kind of cool.
40:50.016 --> 41:04.999
[SPEAKER_00]: It was awesome because right before it like she'd been fighting Willow and then right before that Willow makes a tag to Harley, and it wasn't clear whether or not Athena even saw the tag, but then after she did the double small and drop, she clears Willow and pins Harley or tried to.
41:05.039 --> 41:09.927
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, she got a two count, but I mean, that was that was actually really good the way they did that.
41:09.907 --> 41:27.325
[SPEAKER_00]: And eventually Billy Stark comes out and she grabs a Mercedes title and tries to get it to Mercedes or a thinnest title sorry and tries to get it to Athena and then she can't and then eventually
41:28.604 --> 41:30.087
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, what happened here.
41:31.430 --> 41:34.217
[SPEAKER_01]: Statlander comes out and close lines, Billy's sharks.
41:34.898 --> 41:37.624
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Mercedes is running away from Statlander.
41:38.125 --> 41:44.339
[SPEAKER_01]: Athena gets the her finishing move from, well, night and go hit her with a doctor, mom first.
41:44.360 --> 41:45.482
[SPEAKER_00]: And then Camperon is.
41:45.462 --> 41:51.510
[SPEAKER_00]: and that her finishing move with the official name of the thing.
41:51.530 --> 41:59.039
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, roll the dice cross was where we want to call it and Harley pinned Athena and yeah, and the surprises continue.
41:59.800 --> 42:08.171
[SPEAKER_00]: Although now, okay, so last week I predicted we're probably getting a finals of TJ and sisters of sin, but I think this team might actually be the winning team.
42:08.451 --> 42:12.837
[SPEAKER_00]: This would actually be a good
42:13.373 --> 42:14.475
[SPEAKER_01]: the match.
42:15.015 --> 42:18.841
[SPEAKER_01]: The problem with this is you had that really great hot tag from Willow.
42:20.383 --> 42:23.007
[SPEAKER_01]: And then you did a second hot tag from Willow.
42:23.268 --> 42:27.935
[SPEAKER_01]: And this crowd just was like, we just cheered for her previous hot tag.
42:28.115 --> 42:29.277
[SPEAKER_01]: We're not doing this again.
42:29.297 --> 42:35.466
[SPEAKER_01]: And it killed the momentum
42:35.885 --> 42:39.290
[SPEAKER_01]: her geared in fish, put that per pants, watch everyone in.
42:39.330 --> 42:40.211
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just ridiculous.
42:40.953 --> 42:57.998
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, yeah, I, I, I wouldn't do something where Tony and Mina lose because of an injury suffered in blood and guts to reo and and outs, Windsor and then you have Windsor and them against probably bane and and marina.
42:58.519 --> 43:02.044
[SPEAKER_01]: It feels like it's going to be babes of wrath versus marina and, uh,
43:02.986 --> 43:11.355
[SPEAKER_00]: and Megan Bane, so could be, I mean, I have no, I've kind of given up trying to predict like how this tournament's going to be.
43:11.375 --> 43:16.500
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it just, I mean, because it feels like the politics of it is we're giving all the people who have been lifers.
43:17.321 --> 43:24.509
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, runs in this thing as opposed to the people who we signed early at center or the people that are actually stars.
43:25.450 --> 43:27.452
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but next that too.
43:27.552 --> 43:28.073
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's good.
43:28.373 --> 43:31.296
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, this is our work rate tag team title.
43:31.316 --> 43:32.217
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's
43:33.310 --> 43:43.106
[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to be Megan and are not making, but Alex and and Rio versus versus JJ in that second round.
43:43.587 --> 43:45.249
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like okay.
43:45.850 --> 43:46.271
[SPEAKER_01]: Great.
43:46.812 --> 43:48.855
[SPEAKER_01]: Great ratings death.
43:48.835 --> 43:50.417
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, JJ.
43:50.798 --> 43:54.584
[SPEAKER_00]: We who, uh, yeah, I don't know when the last time they were undying my mother's in.
43:54.604 --> 43:56.947
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, so Mercedes and Athena are out.
43:57.728 --> 44:04.679
[SPEAKER_00]: And I, uh, I thought that they were going to tease like something between these two, you know, and maybe we're going to see another match down the road.
44:04.699 --> 44:05.560
[SPEAKER_00]: But there was none of that.
44:06.401 --> 44:09.867
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I said that, but I'm still, I mean, how is Anna J?
44:10.007 --> 44:13.392
[SPEAKER_01]: Not an absolute superstar on this show?
44:13.793 --> 44:19.381
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know because she's not bad like she's fine in the ring.
44:19.461 --> 44:21.724
[SPEAKER_00]: I suppose and she's got a great presence.
44:21.765 --> 44:22.706
[SPEAKER_01]: She's a star.
44:22.786 --> 44:27.873
[SPEAKER_01]: She's yeah and she came back from Japan and she had that short run and then she got trauma.
44:28.735 --> 44:29.075
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
44:29.736 --> 44:30.057
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
44:30.297 --> 44:30.577
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
44:30.617 --> 44:31.178
[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't know.
44:31.519 --> 44:34.483
[SPEAKER_01]: Over with the dark order put her back with them if you have to.
44:34.623 --> 44:36.205
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
44:36.446 --> 44:36.706
[SPEAKER_00]: No.
44:36.806 --> 44:37.287
[SPEAKER_00]: No.
44:37.418 --> 44:38.422
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just amazing.
44:38.442 --> 44:47.682
[SPEAKER_01]: We're Tony went, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no
44:48.455 --> 44:50.578
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know that there's an operation ship.
44:50.598 --> 45:01.050
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's kind of funny that the two of them are both, you know, partners of people that were kind of on the outs with Tony for a while in terms of personality.
45:01.170 --> 45:08.419
[SPEAKER_01]: I will agree with with this comment that Angie is not as good as Harley Cameron in terms of the personality and the stuff that you bring to it in ring.
45:08.459 --> 45:10.682
[SPEAKER_01]: You sure about that.
45:11.472 --> 45:13.874
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not, it's pretty close.
45:13.995 --> 45:14.755
[SPEAKER_00]: It's pretty close.
45:14.835 --> 45:15.696
[SPEAKER_01]: No, it's a push.
45:16.037 --> 45:19.140
[SPEAKER_00]: No, I mean, this, that's thanks for listening.
45:19.160 --> 45:20.682
[SPEAKER_00]: That's, uh, very out.
45:21.582 --> 45:25.306
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but, but it doesn't matter because it's like, it's wrestling.
45:25.346 --> 45:26.848
[SPEAKER_01]: You can push who you want to push.
45:26.988 --> 45:29.531
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's just sorry, Dr. Larry out.
45:29.551 --> 45:30.752
[SPEAKER_00]: He has not been native.
45:31.593 --> 45:35.497
[SPEAKER_00]: And I did, I did a podcast with him a little while ago that should be dropping soon.
45:35.657 --> 45:36.958
[SPEAKER_00]: So we had a great conversation.
45:37.219 --> 45:40.382
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, so nice nice to
45:40.733 --> 45:57.308
[SPEAKER_00]: And then we got the Tony Shivani announcement a second time so this time he comes out and he didn't get in while he did get interrupted again, but he announced that so the newly formed national championship is going to be decided in a casino gauntlet match at full gear.
45:57.524 --> 46:13.170
[SPEAKER_00]: And he brought up that it's been 40 years since the national championship has been part of TBS and wrestlers backstage or lining up wanting to be a part of it and he introduces two men who will be in the match so I guess maybe the first two because otherwise we don't know sure anybody's in the match.
46:13.150 --> 46:19.566
[SPEAKER_01]: But Bobby Lossian, Shelton Benjamin, no, no, no, no, and contracts are signed to be in it, and 21 people are signed to the match.
46:19.867 --> 46:24.518
[SPEAKER_00]: Remember, okay, but they may not be actually in it, but they may not actually show.
46:24.598 --> 46:26.623
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so there, well, maybe that's it.
46:26.643 --> 46:28.628
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe Bobby Lossian isn't even in the match.
46:28.608 --> 46:39.120
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, so, uh, anyways, they come up with MVP Daniel Send, uh, watch them in the gauntlet against each other and uh, but he can't bring himself to choose who would win.
46:39.621 --> 46:49.432
[SPEAKER_00]: Savani says, uh, this is an interesting situation for you guys, and MVP says what's interesting is the history of the newly debuting international challenge.
46:50.294 --> 46:50.734
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
46:51.929 --> 46:54.194
[SPEAKER_00]: and then he did correct himself.
46:54.756 --> 46:55.878
[SPEAKER_00]: He did correct himself.
46:56.440 --> 47:03.998
[SPEAKER_00]: But then he goes on to say that it's going to be decided in the casino gauntlet rumble or battle royal, which it's not a battle royal MVP.
47:04.018 --> 47:05.141
[SPEAKER_00]: No, it's not.
47:05.161 --> 47:09.010
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but he did call it a battle royal because these names nobody.
47:08.990 --> 47:09.551
[SPEAKER_00]: them straight.
47:10.011 --> 47:17.799
[SPEAKER_00]: But he did bring up the history brought up Orndorf, Jack Briscoe, Dusty Rhodes, Wahoo, McDaniel, and you know, a little in the key to coal off of personation.
47:17.819 --> 47:18.500
[SPEAKER_00]: It was kind of cool.
47:19.281 --> 47:20.462
[SPEAKER_00]: And I said, we're businessman.
47:20.482 --> 47:21.683
[SPEAKER_00]: We'll do it's best for business.
47:21.763 --> 47:24.306
[SPEAKER_00]: But who are winning that scenario is the AW viewing audience.
47:24.326 --> 47:25.707
[SPEAKER_00]: So they're total baby phases now.
47:26.868 --> 47:27.729
[SPEAKER_01]: Then I'll come to the right.
47:27.809 --> 47:29.171
[SPEAKER_01]: I think Danielson's right.
47:29.211 --> 47:30.912
[SPEAKER_01]: I think you're they're going to be one and two.
47:30.932 --> 47:33.495
[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to be like the demolition in the 89 rumble.
47:33.998 --> 47:35.000
[SPEAKER_01]: That'd be cool.
47:35.020 --> 47:36.342
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I think they'd go out at two.
47:36.862 --> 47:39.146
[SPEAKER_01]: I think they would because it's every man for himself.
47:39.166 --> 47:40.929
[SPEAKER_01]: So they're going to try and win the title immediately.
47:41.269 --> 47:41.470
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
47:41.510 --> 47:41.890
[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
47:41.910 --> 47:42.992
[SPEAKER_00]: And then nobody else can get in it.
47:43.613 --> 47:48.020
[SPEAKER_00]: So Rick Chase comes out with his group, the demand and he says I'm going to make this quick as possible.
47:48.060 --> 47:51.906
[SPEAKER_00]: Since I don't want to be here in this trash ass state.
47:51.886 --> 47:54.931
[SPEAKER_00]: I says, uh, I want to give you guys a credit you deserve.
47:54.991 --> 48:04.367
[SPEAKER_00]: Doesn't matter how old and how old you are, I admire you, but every time I open my mouth and spit out facts and say, and I told you so, I promise it's syndicate will never win gold.
48:04.888 --> 48:10.097
[SPEAKER_00]: And then he asked last year how his back was from last week, because it would be cost them the trio's titles.
48:10.077 --> 48:25.737
[SPEAKER_00]: And I started a piss ricochet off so MVP cut them off said no one cares about what you have to say Best you ever looked was getting your ass as kick by the syndicate Ricochet said it full gear the demandably met and I'll be the inaugural National Championship And MVP says ricochet talk shit.
48:26.077 --> 48:30.183
[SPEAKER_00]: We run shit And that was that nice nice segment good.
48:30.203 --> 48:31.404
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I was it was fine.
48:31.484 --> 48:34.528
[SPEAKER_00]: We did more promotion for this than they've done for blood and guts.
48:35.169 --> 48:35.409
[SPEAKER_01]: True.
48:35.690 --> 48:36.471
[SPEAKER_01]: Where were they tonight?
48:37.972 --> 48:38.413
[SPEAKER_00]: Houston
48:40.098 --> 48:43.926
[SPEAKER_01]: That Texas is not a trash estate.
48:43.946 --> 48:44.386
[SPEAKER_00]: I dare you.
48:44.407 --> 48:45.288
[SPEAKER_00]: He ran the same building.
48:45.308 --> 48:48.394
[SPEAKER_00]: I think NXT did a while ago when they went around.
48:48.455 --> 48:48.875
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
48:49.877 --> 48:52.062
[SPEAKER_01]: They're running a lot of Texas and Florida lately.
48:52.543 --> 48:54.306
[SPEAKER_00]: I mentioned this a couple of weeks ago to you.
48:55.168 --> 48:55.829
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
48:55.869 --> 48:57.673
[SPEAKER_00]: They're doing two shows in Houston this week.
48:57.693 --> 48:58.294
[SPEAKER_00]: Same building.
48:58.554 --> 48:59.897
[SPEAKER_00]: They're doing another one on Saturday.
49:00.138 --> 49:01.380
[SPEAKER_00]: And then I think.
49:01.478 --> 49:09.709
[SPEAKER_00]: I think they got one more show in Texas next week and then they're in eerie for a live collision on November 15th for some reason very Pennsylvania.
49:10.251 --> 49:10.472
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
49:11.135 --> 49:11.235
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
49:11.688 --> 49:19.501
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, so then we got the Jurassic Express walking back stage and as good as the Jack Perry promo was a couple weeks ago where he said it was like the best promise ever cut.
49:19.521 --> 49:21.284
[SPEAKER_00]: This one was not good.
49:22.125 --> 49:28.375
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, uh, he says it's more important things than money like friendship and I know the young bucks have been having problems with money.
49:28.496 --> 49:33.043
[SPEAKER_00]: So this should help and he puts a hundred dollar bill down on something.
49:33.143 --> 49:37.290
[SPEAKER_00]: I guess where the bucks are going to find it and he stabbed it with a knife.
49:37.270 --> 49:40.314
[SPEAKER_00]: And, uh, oh, I guess it was in front of the Doncouse locker room.
49:40.455 --> 49:49.788
[SPEAKER_00]: And then Luchisaurus was trying to get steal the money and and, uh, Perry told me leave it there and that was that there are more important things in money.
49:50.829 --> 50:00.443
[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no
50:01.115 --> 50:02.938
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, yeah.
50:02.958 --> 50:08.607
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, next we got, that's like an inter, this is like an interplay from a mammoth's heist in 2001.
50:08.748 --> 50:12.774
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, uh, my face of world will go around.
50:13.115 --> 50:13.896
[SPEAKER_01]: Thought it was love.
50:14.277 --> 50:15.479
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, love of gold.
50:17.822 --> 50:18.263
[SPEAKER_00]: There you go.
50:19.505 --> 50:27.358
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, what was it you're saying earlier about matches and boring and they're good, but oh, how'd you put it?
50:28.908 --> 50:38.405
[SPEAKER_00]: You remember what you said about like when you brought up people like and Brad Armstrong or something and you mentioned there they're technically fine matches, but there's no personality to them.
50:39.026 --> 50:45.398
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so the next match was Darby Allen versus Daniel Garcia.
50:45.496 --> 50:45.796
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
50:46.898 --> 50:48.580
[SPEAKER_01]: So I think always brings it.
50:48.781 --> 50:49.542
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that's true.
50:49.982 --> 50:50.783
[SPEAKER_01]: That's true.
50:50.803 --> 50:53.086
[SPEAKER_01]: You're there that Garcia's playing is ass.
50:53.888 --> 51:09.529
[SPEAKER_00]: So before the match, uh, Moxley basically threatens Garcia, as is you better win, because if it doesn't win, then Moxley has to face Roderick strong on collision for the right to get the man advantage at a flood gut.
51:09.897 --> 51:24.636
[SPEAKER_00]: And so they had a match and yeah, Darby you know, threw himself all over the place that he always does GarcÃa hold on hold on hold on home because it just entered my mind that this should have been a two or three segment thing.
51:25.137 --> 51:26.338
[SPEAKER_01]: We're early in the show.
51:26.779 --> 51:26.999
[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.
51:27.239 --> 51:29.442
[SPEAKER_01]: Moxley threatens Garcia.
51:29.978 --> 51:51.987
[SPEAKER_01]: And Garcia takes it, but eventually goes to you to unpacking us, who the hell is this guy think he is he gave up to he he did the I he lost the I quit match whatever whatever whatever I'm going to do my best out here, but you know what if he beat moxley whatever it's like, you know, just some grumbling or whatever and then go out here and do the match.
51:52.608 --> 51:53.849
[SPEAKER_00]: But nope, we got none of that.
51:54.310 --> 51:55.291
[SPEAKER_01]: That's table.
51:55.311 --> 51:56.192
[SPEAKER_01]: Tell me, come on.
51:56.212 --> 51:56.753
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
51:56.853 --> 52:05.402
[SPEAKER_00]: And honestly, if I wasn't watching live, I would have skipped it and I wouldn't even heard what he said anyways, because I always skipped their long ass artistic quote unquote entrancees.
52:06.483 --> 52:07.865
[SPEAKER_00]: So anyways, they had a match.
52:08.125 --> 52:08.846
[SPEAKER_00]: It was good.
52:08.926 --> 52:10.147
[SPEAKER_00]: It was, you know, fine.
52:10.187 --> 52:15.233
[SPEAKER_00]: These guys are both good wrestlers and had Darby threw himself all over the place or see a fall them around.
52:15.753 --> 52:16.775
[SPEAKER_00]: Garcia tried out.
52:16.795 --> 52:19.337
[SPEAKER_01]: But all the emotion was in the interference.
52:19.838 --> 52:21.720
[SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't in match itself.
52:21.700 --> 52:40.317
[SPEAKER_00]: So the match finally picked up when Garcia is outside, sorry, Garcia is in the ring, Darby's outside and he distracts the ref and Pock appears out of nowhere and just took Darby's head off with a laryat and out.
52:40.297 --> 52:51.970
[SPEAKER_00]: Darby's on the ground and they did like a pretty good 10 count tease because he was on nine and he was still flat on his back and then like halfway from nine to ten he just jumped to his feet and got in the ring.
52:52.590 --> 53:02.761
[SPEAKER_00]: And then he gets in the ring and I've seen this a bunch of times lately where they do this count and then the guy jumps in the ring and then immediately the person in the ring attacks them.
53:03.962 --> 53:06.405
[SPEAKER_00]: That's not what Daniel Garcia did.
53:06.740 --> 53:26.638
[SPEAKER_00]: This Darby lunched at him at Garcia moves out of the way and then Darby lunched at him again and he moves out of the way instead of just freaking attacking him like he should have done he's just playing games and I just I was I was out of it at that point and then I then finally the he yeah Alan.
53:26.618 --> 53:33.529
[SPEAKER_01]: Right, but he's not doing it in the driveway, but, but again, but again, he's not taking any joy in avoiding in pairing.
53:33.589 --> 53:42.242
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just this is what I'm supposed to do in the match is, you know, as opposed to like taking the glee of being a heel and going, I'm just playing with my food right now.
53:42.362 --> 53:44.005
[SPEAKER_01]: I can finish you at any time.
53:44.385 --> 53:46.589
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm ducking your your little dives here.
53:46.849 --> 53:48.812
[SPEAKER_01]: Continue this because I have a bigger point to make.
53:48.792 --> 53:55.981
[SPEAKER_00]: So Garcia puts him in the dragon tamer and he mocks stained as a woo and then Allen was about to hit the ropes.
53:56.081 --> 54:01.448
[SPEAKER_00]: Garcia pulled back to the middle of the ring, but he kind of pulled him the wrong way and Darby was able to reposition.
54:01.868 --> 54:07.736
[SPEAKER_00]: He gets in the scorpion deathlock and Garcia taps pretty quickly and that was that.
54:07.976 --> 54:09.117
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's one one.
54:10.058 --> 54:13.703
[SPEAKER_01]: Here's here's something that AEW does not do well.
54:13.885 --> 54:17.989
[SPEAKER_01]: that they need to do, but everybody's going to accuse them of being WWE.
54:18.349 --> 54:20.672
[SPEAKER_01]: They don't do the story match at all.
54:21.092 --> 54:21.372
[SPEAKER_01]: No.
54:21.893 --> 54:23.674
[SPEAKER_01]: And this is what this should have been.
54:23.734 --> 54:24.936
[SPEAKER_01]: This should have been.
54:24.976 --> 54:28.719
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm trying to get an advantage in the blood and guts match.
54:28.739 --> 54:31.662
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm trying to get an advantage once the blood and guts match starts.
54:31.682 --> 54:35.566
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm going to come out here and I'm going to try and hurt Darby Allen.
54:35.586 --> 54:37.007
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to put the boots to him.
54:37.067 --> 54:37.988
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to cheat.
54:38.529 --> 54:39.910
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to try and will
54:46.268 --> 54:49.285
[SPEAKER_01]: Jeff wrote that up and hope now you're freezing again.
54:49.325 --> 54:53.106
[SPEAKER_01]: That's every time you say that they always say it's you
54:53.592 --> 54:54.193
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
54:54.954 --> 54:56.716
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, well, you're running the show.
54:56.816 --> 54:57.457
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's mine.
54:57.477 --> 54:58.018
[SPEAKER_01]: That's true.
54:58.378 --> 54:58.558
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
54:58.919 --> 55:00.301
[SPEAKER_00]: But, but Pock had that.
55:00.541 --> 55:01.122
[SPEAKER_00]: Pock had that.
55:01.242 --> 55:02.644
[SPEAKER_00]: Pock was trying to hurt Derby.
55:02.964 --> 55:03.345
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
55:03.445 --> 55:03.845
[SPEAKER_01]: Kind of.
55:04.025 --> 55:04.927
[SPEAKER_01]: But, but, but, but it was.
55:04.947 --> 55:11.075
[SPEAKER_01]: There's stating that story for the reason why Kyle probably loses the match on Saturday.
55:11.275 --> 55:12.677
[SPEAKER_01]: But then he'll be fraughty.
55:12.737 --> 55:12.857
[SPEAKER_00]: Brody.
55:12.877 --> 55:13.237
[SPEAKER_00]: Brody.
55:13.297 --> 55:13.618
[SPEAKER_01]: Good.
55:13.938 --> 55:14.579
[SPEAKER_01]: Erotty here.
55:14.659 --> 55:15.180
[SPEAKER_00]: Brody.
55:15.200 --> 55:15.721
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
55:15.741 --> 55:23.110
[SPEAKER_00]: Actually, I have a feeling that, well, they did a post match thing here.
55:23.883 --> 55:26.006
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so there's I could be wrong.
55:26.086 --> 55:27.568
[SPEAKER_00]: I just kind of the impression I got.
55:27.608 --> 55:30.913
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because they Ryan Daniels sin is going to be in the match.
55:30.933 --> 55:31.534
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, God.
55:31.954 --> 55:35.219
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe get a regular and the death writers.
55:35.479 --> 55:37.362
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe she yeah, probably Gabe kid.
55:37.642 --> 55:40.086
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, no, Gabe kids on the other side of mine.
55:40.406 --> 55:40.646
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
55:41.107 --> 55:42.309
[SPEAKER_01]: It's either she.
55:42.329 --> 55:43.290
[SPEAKER_01]: It's either she.
55:44.392 --> 55:45.673
[SPEAKER_00]: We're not as she is hurt.
55:46.114 --> 55:46.575
[SPEAKER_00]: She's hurt.
55:47.436 --> 55:48.958
[SPEAKER_01]: Then's Brian Daniels and probably.
55:49.479 --> 55:49.959
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, maybe.
55:49.999 --> 55:51.882
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, Nigel.
55:53.465 --> 55:56.893
[SPEAKER_01]: could be Nigel to get revenge on Garcia.
55:56.913 --> 56:00.781
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, but I mean, I'm just speculating.
56:00.821 --> 56:09.280
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, you know, so after the rain pockets, actually, you know what, you know, what Nigel makes sense if it's if they do that thing on Saturday.
56:09.260 --> 56:10.541
[SPEAKER_01]: That's where it is.
56:11.002 --> 56:11.563
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
56:11.583 --> 56:11.843
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
56:11.903 --> 56:13.004
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I guess we'll find out.
56:13.625 --> 56:14.806
[SPEAKER_00]: So Orange Cassidy.
56:14.907 --> 56:17.770
[SPEAKER_00]: So yes, so yeah, pockets of ringy attacks Allen.
56:17.970 --> 56:23.637
[SPEAKER_00]: Orange Cassidy makes a save that brings in Wheeler, Claudio, Roddy, John Moxley.
56:24.077 --> 56:25.499
[SPEAKER_00]: Kyla Riley's on his way down to the ring.
56:25.519 --> 56:31.626
[SPEAKER_00]: John Moxley blindsided him went after his knee and he was selling his knee pretty good and I think a trick is even out there looking at him.
56:31.706 --> 56:35.250
[SPEAKER_00]: So I think that that was an injury angle, but we'll find out.
56:35.230 --> 56:39.876
[SPEAKER_00]: a pocket, Cassie with a tombstone, Claudio, flattened them with a neutralizer.
56:40.557 --> 56:42.419
[SPEAKER_00]: Moxley's got a Riley down.
56:43.100 --> 56:45.643
[SPEAKER_00]: Roddy's strong left over everyone with a knee to moxley.
56:45.683 --> 56:46.865
[SPEAKER_00]: The deathwriters took off.
56:47.085 --> 56:49.148
[SPEAKER_00]: And the commentary was asking where Marc Briscoe was.
56:49.869 --> 56:53.614
[SPEAKER_00]: And, uh, Scalber said he's got his own, own worries, own stuff to worry about.
56:55.075 --> 56:58.039
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's like, uh, yeah, way to sell this thing.
56:59.261 --> 57:01.744
[SPEAKER_00]: He's the one that made the challenge.
57:01.724 --> 57:11.597
[SPEAKER_00]: So the back, we're about Kyle Fletcher and having to join the Kyle Fletcher thing is to do emotionally, so to borderline, who's that to contriars?
57:11.958 --> 57:14.121
[SPEAKER_00]: I've got better things to do.
57:16.524 --> 57:17.185
[SPEAKER_00]: Doesn't ring about.
57:18.967 --> 57:22.071
[SPEAKER_00]: I can't, I can't remember the lyrics doesn't matter.
57:22.111 --> 57:25.155
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not singing country in there.
57:25.175 --> 57:30.162
[SPEAKER_00]: Then we got FTR out for a promo and okay, what did you think about this segment?
57:31.171 --> 57:39.986
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, I both liked and hated it for different reasons, okay, I'm probably on the same length.
57:40.026 --> 57:51.385
[SPEAKER_00]: I saw people really like this and I think I liked it the first time I saw it, uh, when when he did it with the blue pan there, guys, Brian and this was exactly what it was.
57:51.645 --> 57:55.812
[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, the high fiving of gravity and and his grandmother.
57:56.500 --> 57:59.023
[SPEAKER_00]: No, well, they're not, they're not God bless her.
57:59.484 --> 58:02.228
[SPEAKER_01]: But her off a little bit, yeah, she had no idea about this.
58:02.248 --> 58:03.490
[SPEAKER_00]: She had no idea what was going on.
58:04.431 --> 58:07.956
[SPEAKER_00]: Dax is insulting this shit out of her, like over and over again.
58:08.096 --> 58:09.998
[SPEAKER_00]: Gravity just standing there.
58:10.018 --> 58:15.606
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, and at some point gravity needed to attack Dax and way before he actually did.
58:15.755 --> 58:16.135
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
58:16.936 --> 58:18.538
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that that was the problem.
58:18.999 --> 58:24.446
[SPEAKER_01]: Like as I thought it was Bandito under the gravity mask at first and I was whole he'd know he is too fat.
58:26.428 --> 58:31.714
[SPEAKER_00]: Is that that my love to say that gravity is fat or okay.
58:31.734 --> 58:34.478
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I thought he looked he is fat or not.
58:34.938 --> 58:41.046
[SPEAKER_00]: That's probably why they call him gravity before they told you that that gravity was Bandito's brother.
58:41.066 --> 58:42.167
[SPEAKER_00]: Did you have any idea?
58:43.244 --> 58:45.231
[SPEAKER_01]: I had forgotten it to be honest.
58:45.251 --> 58:46.274
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, yeah, me too.
58:46.315 --> 58:46.616
[SPEAKER_00]: Me too.
58:46.756 --> 58:46.977
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
58:47.418 --> 58:48.903
[SPEAKER_01]: I actually thought it was hologram.
58:51.171 --> 58:53.339
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so this is an issue with me.
58:53.620 --> 58:55.245
[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't know about you, but
58:55.563 --> 58:56.525
[SPEAKER_00]: I can't tell.
58:56.545 --> 58:59.410
[SPEAKER_00]: I can't tell Luchador's a part.
58:59.450 --> 59:00.411
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not a race thing.
59:00.431 --> 59:01.633
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a freaking mask thing.
59:02.094 --> 59:04.518
[SPEAKER_00]: Like I don't remember what masks anybody wears.
59:04.579 --> 59:07.443
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a me being an old stupid person.
59:07.504 --> 59:14.736
[SPEAKER_01]: But the masks are so basic now as opposed to like when you watch the Luchador's on WCW Nitro they were all.
59:15.053 --> 59:15.674
[SPEAKER_01]: Fairly.
59:15.774 --> 59:26.470
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and they have something they brought up when they brought in different ones and you'd be like, all right, I don't know who Perof Jr. is necessarily, but you okay, fine.
59:26.871 --> 59:28.653
[SPEAKER_00]: Or the, but there's no way you're mistaken.
59:28.733 --> 59:34.943
[SPEAKER_00]: One of the volanos for like, you know, movie or Ray or La Parca.
59:35.343 --> 59:37.466
[SPEAKER_00]: No, you know, like, yeah.
59:37.547 --> 59:43.896
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, now it's like Bandito hologram.
59:44.551 --> 59:56.847
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, look at, you know, a kid, if you have to, I'll tell you, even heteroceros and beast mortals, like I can't tell which of them is which, like, and other than when they're, like, with different people, you know what I mean?
59:56.887 --> 59:58.309
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I'll see, be heteroceros.
59:58.429 --> 01:00:00.432
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, a heteroceros is a doctor.
01:00:01.453 --> 01:00:02.815
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, more doses of lawyer.
01:00:04.196 --> 01:00:10.585
[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, there you go, silly me, silly Paul, yeah, you ever read the grapes of wrathful.
01:00:11.526 --> 01:00:12.067
[SPEAKER_00]: I have.
01:00:12.467 --> 01:00:13.849
[SPEAKER_01]: I, well, did I?
01:00:14.740 --> 01:00:16.322
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, John Steinbeck, right?
01:00:16.402 --> 01:00:17.544
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I blew the joke.
01:00:17.564 --> 01:00:18.144
[SPEAKER_01]: It's had you ever.
01:00:18.345 --> 01:00:18.745
[SPEAKER_01]: I know.
01:00:18.905 --> 01:00:19.486
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a red list.
01:00:19.506 --> 01:00:20.167
[SPEAKER_01]: Just, I know.
01:00:21.289 --> 01:00:23.111
[SPEAKER_00]: Doctor and lawyer walk into a wrestling ring.
01:00:25.394 --> 01:00:26.295
[SPEAKER_01]: Doctor and lawyer.
01:00:26.355 --> 01:00:27.557
[SPEAKER_01]: What's your third one that we need?
01:00:27.957 --> 01:00:28.958
[SPEAKER_01]: Doctor and lawyer.
01:00:29.159 --> 01:00:29.880
[SPEAKER_01]: What's your third?
01:00:30.000 --> 01:00:30.500
[SPEAKER_01]: A priest.
01:00:31.522 --> 01:00:31.862
[SPEAKER_01]: Priest.
01:00:31.962 --> 01:00:32.243
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
01:00:32.283 --> 01:00:33.464
[SPEAKER_00]: That's what I did.
01:00:33.484 --> 01:00:34.245
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't do.
01:00:34.265 --> 01:00:35.187
[SPEAKER_00]: Do they have any priests in eight?
01:00:35.267 --> 01:00:37.069
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, Christopher Daniel's time.
01:00:37.218 --> 01:00:51.023
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, so yeah, so anyways, they're um, so they're, they're, they're at ringside, they're harassing Bandito's grandma and then eventually, uh, you know, gravity gets gets, gets involved.
01:00:51.524 --> 01:00:57.555
[SPEAKER_00]: But um, as many ways, God, I'm just, I'm losing my, I'm losing my finger.
01:00:57.822 --> 01:01:00.344
[SPEAKER_00]: So what the hell was going on here?
01:01:01.425 --> 01:01:02.467
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, but it's somebody asked this.
01:01:02.847 --> 01:01:05.409
[SPEAKER_00]: And I could figure out what was happening here with here.
01:01:05.570 --> 01:01:06.470
[SPEAKER_00]: It's totally in Renee.
01:01:06.831 --> 01:01:23.627
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, stokely has pulled the impossible of locking them from the outside in their own dressing room and is leaning against the door to keep them in, but also simultaneously watching the wire.
01:01:23.911 --> 01:01:25.013
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, great.
01:01:25.073 --> 01:01:26.717
[SPEAKER_00]: I guess it's it's out on HBO Max.
01:01:27.298 --> 01:01:27.719
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, it is.
01:01:28.140 --> 01:01:28.420
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
01:01:28.460 --> 01:01:28.881
[SPEAKER_00]: There you go.
01:01:28.941 --> 01:01:29.603
[SPEAKER_00]: That's okay.
01:01:30.324 --> 01:01:31.266
[SPEAKER_00]: So so yeah.
01:01:31.286 --> 01:01:34.593
[SPEAKER_00]: So he's he's blocking the door so that they can't make the save.
01:01:35.194 --> 01:01:43.692
[SPEAKER_00]: And meanwhile FTRs harassing Banditos family rings out and blah blah blah blah and eventually what happens is.
01:01:43.790 --> 01:01:46.394
[SPEAKER_00]: someone puts a through the door.
01:01:46.434 --> 01:01:48.999
[SPEAKER_00]: And of course, that someone would be Brody King.
01:01:49.039 --> 01:02:03.823
[SPEAKER_00]: And Brent Brodydo escapes and they end up getting past Stokely, obviously, you know, poor old manager watching the television show on his phone is no match for
01:02:03.803 --> 01:02:07.408
[SPEAKER_00]: Broking and they got to the ring to make the save.
01:02:07.789 --> 01:02:09.451
[SPEAKER_00]: Gravity was about to hit a spike pile.
01:02:09.471 --> 01:02:13.217
[SPEAKER_00]: It was about to get hit with a spike pile driver, but yeah, they made the save in time.
01:02:13.938 --> 01:02:17.863
[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, and so that was the set up for FTR and Brodito.
01:02:18.164 --> 01:02:19.866
[SPEAKER_00]: I think for FTR is winning those titles.
01:02:20.247 --> 01:02:20.647
[SPEAKER_00]: That fit.
01:02:20.667 --> 01:02:22.430
[SPEAKER_01]: This is just catch around a joke.
01:02:22.750 --> 01:02:25.815
[SPEAKER_01]: The joke was we had this door that we could put the hand through.
01:02:25.835 --> 01:02:26.836
[SPEAKER_01]: And it was a good visual.
01:02:26.856 --> 01:02:27.457
[SPEAKER_01]: Don't give me wrong.
01:02:27.918 --> 01:02:28.038
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
01:02:28.318 --> 01:02:30.421
[SPEAKER_01]: It's anybody ever done the John Mayer gravity.
01:02:30.461 --> 01:02:33.726
[SPEAKER_01]: Stay the hell away from me.
01:02:34.027 --> 01:02:35.209
[SPEAKER_00]: But never probably not.
01:02:35.789 --> 01:02:36.290
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, no.
01:02:36.851 --> 01:02:42.197
[SPEAKER_00]: Have I, I'm still holding out hope that my plans, my booking plans are going to come through.
01:02:42.237 --> 01:02:44.721
[SPEAKER_00]: FTR wins the building.
01:02:44.741 --> 01:02:52.771
[SPEAKER_00]: Brody King snaps and turns on Bandito and rips his shoulder out of his socket because he's mad about having to do the mock arena.
01:02:53.312 --> 01:02:57.677
[SPEAKER_01]: I think everybody wants this because I've now heard it on two other different podcasts.
01:02:57.697 --> 01:02:58.278
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, really?
01:02:58.738 --> 01:03:03.865
[SPEAKER_01]: Acting, well, I believe David Brian
01:03:03.997 --> 01:03:09.443
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, uh, we did Brian and I think a like a lot of times and I may even share ideas with them.
01:03:10.144 --> 01:03:10.945
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
01:03:10.965 --> 01:03:16.692
[SPEAKER_00]: So you know, yeah, so yeah, so, but now that Tony got wind of it, maybe we won't see it.
01:03:17.633 --> 01:03:21.718
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, hey, maybe maybe maybe that's where they got the idea for the callous thing.
01:03:23.259 --> 01:03:24.961
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm only first stunt granny.
01:03:25.822 --> 01:03:26.443
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, there you go.
01:03:27.773 --> 01:03:54.118
[SPEAKER_00]: uh... we got a great blood and guts video package uh... narrated by demolanko it was it was awesome but i don't really have much as when you think war games you think the man who was replaced in a war games yeah yeah who else could they have gotten it's magna maybe aren no they got a call department to do a voiceover he would it i think he's on a the ledon's deal
01:03:55.246 --> 01:03:56.588
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's true.
01:03:57.149 --> 01:03:58.831
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, uh, flair.
01:04:00.033 --> 01:04:02.316
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, flair.
01:04:02.897 --> 01:04:06.341
[SPEAKER_01]: Bring your crappy mushroom energy drink here and we'll let you.
01:04:07.663 --> 01:04:09.386
[SPEAKER_01]: What's up?
01:04:09.406 --> 01:04:11.829
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, yeah, sting, sting could have done it.
01:04:12.089 --> 01:04:14.593
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yes, yes, they're telling us off.
01:04:14.613 --> 01:04:16.856
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, tell me, you're telling us on a, tell us on a legends deal.
01:04:18.378 --> 01:04:22.063
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, no, no, actually, the person he was actually mentioned tonight.
01:04:22.870 --> 01:04:33.200
[SPEAKER_00]: Nikita Coloff would have been the perfect kid of the dudeness and now yes and he's a great speaker actually you know what I'll take that I'll take that that would have been awesome.
01:04:33.882 --> 01:04:37.673
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but they like Dean and he works there Maggadier
01:04:38.750 --> 01:04:43.559
[SPEAKER_00]: So Tony Storm makes her return to dynamite for the first time since Russell dream.
01:04:44.321 --> 01:05:01.534
[SPEAKER_00]: I guess he was off getting married and so there was this bizarre exchange at the beginning where she calls me and her wife and then one of the announcers says you guys are married and she says yes.
01:05:01.514 --> 01:05:04.679
[SPEAKER_00]: And then, I knew it was Excalibur, says, oh, you learned something new every day.
01:05:04.719 --> 01:05:07.904
[SPEAKER_00]: And then Tony says, oh, I guess congratulations on order.
01:05:08.344 --> 01:05:09.546
[SPEAKER_00]: And she says, shut up!
01:05:14.473 --> 01:05:17.678
[SPEAKER_01]: And maybe you should come by a new play by play on my origin.
01:05:17.698 --> 01:05:18.700
[SPEAKER_00]: One of my orgies.
01:05:19.281 --> 01:05:24.248
[SPEAKER_00]: And during the commercial break, she called herself the vagisaurus.
01:05:26.675 --> 01:05:28.078
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god, okay.
01:05:28.098 --> 01:05:28.860
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, thank you.
01:05:28.880 --> 01:05:29.742
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I didn't make air.
01:05:30.484 --> 01:05:33.151
[SPEAKER_00]: No, and so they have this match.
01:05:33.993 --> 01:05:35.476
[SPEAKER_00]: Again, oh, I didn't mention the match.
01:05:35.516 --> 01:05:44.498
[SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't matter because like all this was was Tony on commentary and she wasn't even talking about blood and guts, not at all.
01:05:44.478 --> 01:05:48.244
[SPEAKER_00]: They tried to get it out of her, and she did not care about this match at all.
01:05:48.284 --> 01:05:52.070
[SPEAKER_01]: No, she didn't care about blood and gut, so they were basically hyping the tank term.
01:05:52.090 --> 01:05:54.434
[SPEAKER_00]: And while she was there, she doesn't care about blood and gut.
01:05:54.514 --> 01:05:59.402
[SPEAKER_00]: And then so this was obviously to get, you know, Matt's one of the blood and gut's advantage battle.
01:05:59.923 --> 01:06:08.376
[SPEAKER_00]: Meena Shirakawa Megan Bain, Meena being a replacement for Queen Aminata for a match at nobody knew was happening before they tuned into the show.
01:06:08.356 --> 01:06:09.777
[SPEAKER_00]: and they had a match.
01:06:09.818 --> 01:06:24.032
[SPEAKER_00]: It had no heat and Megan being one with a with a power bomb after some distraction from Marina Shafir, a tax Tony storm, grabs her from behind, puts her in a headlock, tries to choke her out.
01:06:24.433 --> 01:06:26.935
[SPEAKER_00]: Tony makes her own save, beats a shit on a Marina.
01:06:27.196 --> 01:06:38.127
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, what's like Marina is like this unstoppable monster forever and Tony storm, you know, like doesn't
01:06:38.866 --> 01:07:05.886
[SPEAKER_01]: Like am I on yeah, I'm sure that or or or at least Mina should have been should have lost because she was trying to save Tony at the yes and and it was basically the idea was that there was a distraction but there wasn't the whole freaking match was a distraction because Tony was the distraction like this was a one joke match because the whole joke was we're putting me in because she has giant boobs and she's going to shake him in front of
01:07:05.866 --> 01:07:07.910
[SPEAKER_01]: Megan Bain who also has giant boobs.
01:07:08.250 --> 01:07:09.974
[SPEAKER_01]: That that was the match right there.
01:07:10.094 --> 01:07:17.548
[SPEAKER_00]: This was this was like the match that my wife would walk in on and she would like she did never watch this again, Paul.
01:07:17.568 --> 01:07:18.249
[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, no.
01:07:18.630 --> 01:07:29.410
[SPEAKER_00]: She walked in during the empty arena match that they had a WrestleMania with Charlotte and Rhea and she says she looks at the screen and she says,
01:07:30.082 --> 01:07:31.364
[SPEAKER_00]: You just made a reaction.
01:07:31.404 --> 01:07:35.349
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it was the best match on the show, but she looks at them.
01:07:35.389 --> 01:07:38.493
[SPEAKER_00]: She goes, how do they wrestle in those giant fake tits?
01:07:39.975 --> 01:07:40.756
[SPEAKER_00]: This is my wife.
01:07:42.379 --> 01:07:46.664
[SPEAKER_00]: And so she would have said something similar to that here.
01:07:47.545 --> 01:07:48.887
[SPEAKER_00]: But eventually, yeah.
01:07:48.907 --> 01:07:53.894
[SPEAKER_00]: So storm, storm makes her own save on Marina and then Bane in the meantime.
01:07:53.954 --> 01:07:56.157
[SPEAKER_00]: Pinch here, Kyle with a Liger bomb.
01:07:56.137 --> 01:07:56.898
[SPEAKER_00]: gets the win.
01:07:57.659 --> 01:08:05.829
[SPEAKER_00]: And then after the match, she fear makes a comeback on Tony, throws her into his stairs and then she jumps in the ring, they start beating down Mina.
01:08:06.349 --> 01:08:08.532
[SPEAKER_00]: And this is just basically replay of the angle from earlier.
01:08:08.572 --> 01:08:12.056
[SPEAKER_01]: Everybody from home has to beat that has to be the second round match.
01:08:12.116 --> 01:08:15.240
[SPEAKER_01]: That is Tony and Mina versus Bane and she fear, right?
01:08:15.520 --> 01:08:16.521
[SPEAKER_00]: You would think so.
01:08:16.541 --> 01:08:18.043
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's not the next match.
01:08:18.665 --> 01:08:19.929
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't even know I don't have the graphic.
01:08:20.189 --> 01:08:23.719
[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no, no, no, Tony and Mina have to go up against, uh, wins.
01:08:23.739 --> 01:08:24.722
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, Windsor and Rihow.
01:08:24.803 --> 01:08:25.184
[SPEAKER_00]: You're right.
01:08:25.264 --> 01:08:25.464
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
01:08:25.986 --> 01:08:27.590
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, the JJ's going against.
01:08:27.631 --> 01:08:28.152
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
01:08:28.773 --> 01:08:29.534
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
01:08:29.654 --> 01:08:30.675
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, you're probably right.
01:08:30.695 --> 01:08:33.097
[SPEAKER_00]: So TJ is not advancing, you know, probably not.
01:08:34.078 --> 01:08:35.960
[SPEAKER_00]: So eventually, everybody comes out.
01:08:36.260 --> 01:08:43.606
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, not everybody because Mercedes Monet shows up and she's about to get in and then she looks and she's like, no, I'm not doing this.
01:08:44.547 --> 01:08:48.691
[SPEAKER_00]: And she's about to go to the back and then Chris that lander shows up.
01:08:48.771 --> 01:08:54.276
[SPEAKER_00]: She takes her head off with a clothes line, gets in the ring and helps to chase away all the heels.
01:08:54.977 --> 01:08:55.717
[SPEAKER_00]: And that was that.
01:08:55.757 --> 01:08:58.560
[SPEAKER_00]: So it was basically the exact same thing we saw earlier.
01:08:58.540 --> 01:09:00.502
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, you know, with different people.
01:09:00.542 --> 01:09:01.143
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
01:09:01.183 --> 01:09:07.410
[SPEAKER_01]: So we basically know what the men had the ending of the men's blood guts matching two weeks is going to be.
01:09:07.430 --> 01:09:09.092
[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to be moxley tap.
01:09:09.112 --> 01:09:11.975
[SPEAKER_00]: I think moxley submitting to the sharpshooter again.
01:09:12.435 --> 01:09:13.717
[SPEAKER_01]: So what do you have in women?
01:09:13.737 --> 01:09:14.978
[SPEAKER_01]: What do you have in the women's?
01:09:16.880 --> 01:09:20.624
[SPEAKER_00]: I, it doesn't even matter, but it doesn't matter.
01:09:20.644 --> 01:09:21.545
[SPEAKER_01]: You're correct on that.
01:09:21.585 --> 01:09:26.050
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, because so I haven't
01:09:26.975 --> 01:09:31.270
[SPEAKER_00]: I would think, okay, so the match, the paper view match.
01:09:31.290 --> 01:09:36.208
[SPEAKER_00]: I think Chris Dallas has obtained Mercedes, Chris Dallas is going to pin Mercedes.
01:09:36.661 --> 01:09:37.983
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, so you can get a pin on this.
01:09:38.063 --> 01:09:39.986
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought it was a submitter surrender.
01:09:40.126 --> 01:09:41.388
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, it is submitter surrender.
01:09:41.508 --> 01:09:43.331
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, to stop even have a submission.
01:09:43.871 --> 01:09:45.874
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a pay for the WWE version.
01:09:45.974 --> 01:09:48.318
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe Mercedes submit stat.
01:09:48.338 --> 01:09:49.940
[SPEAKER_00]: And then that's what I'm thinking.
01:09:50.381 --> 01:09:53.085
[SPEAKER_01]: I was originally thinking Tecla submit stat.
01:09:53.105 --> 01:09:55.628
[SPEAKER_01]: But I think it's going to be Mercedes submit stat.
01:09:55.648 --> 01:09:58.973
[SPEAKER_01]: And then they unify the titles under stat.
01:09:59.172 --> 01:10:10.096
[SPEAKER_00]: Or it could be marina, uh, you know, submitting, you know, doing something because that would plan to the deathwriter storyline, which is obviously more important than anything that's going on with the women, sorry, Tony.
01:10:10.116 --> 01:10:10.958
[SPEAKER_00]: That's a show you're booking.
01:10:11.780 --> 01:10:15.027
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I know that that would be unfortunate though, because you really need something for that.
01:10:16.130 --> 01:10:17.232
[SPEAKER_01]: Women's title match.
01:10:17.650 --> 01:10:18.912
[SPEAKER_00]: you do, you do, yeah.
01:10:19.193 --> 01:10:23.540
[SPEAKER_00]: Although I do think they're doing a pretty good job building up Stattlander in Mercedes.
01:10:24.161 --> 01:10:24.722
[SPEAKER_01]: It's okay.
01:10:25.162 --> 01:10:26.765
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not, it's not horror.
01:10:26.785 --> 01:10:28.908
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not worse than any other building, too.
01:10:29.229 --> 01:10:31.392
[SPEAKER_01]: It's actually more than some of the buildings we do.
01:10:31.412 --> 01:10:31.633
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
01:10:32.134 --> 01:10:36.901
[SPEAKER_00]: So team team heels are a one.
01:10:37.122 --> 01:10:40.928
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the heels win the women's and the, and the baby faces win the men's.
01:10:41.349 --> 01:10:42.831
[SPEAKER_00]: That's what I think is going to happen to you.
01:10:42.811 --> 01:10:55.331
[SPEAKER_00]: So let me get the main event and it was the ops against Hangman Hook and Eddie Kingston making his return to Dynamite for the AWS titles and again, you know, they had a good match.
01:10:55.371 --> 01:10:57.795
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, all the, you know, the thing about people being boring.
01:10:57.815 --> 01:10:59.438
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you know, a lot of these guys aren't boring.
01:10:59.978 --> 01:11:08.532
[SPEAKER_01]: One thing I really liked in this match was
01:11:08.512 --> 01:11:10.415
[SPEAKER_00]: I like Shabbat in this match.
01:11:10.455 --> 01:11:19.069
[SPEAKER_00]: He's kind of been like he's in these promos and he's involved, but he doesn't really feel like his hearts into it and he was acting like a heal in this match.
01:11:19.490 --> 01:11:27.583
[SPEAKER_00]: Like he hit somebody with a low blow and he was like hitting them with these kicks that are like, you know, kind of like orange castes, but they actually hurt.
01:11:27.563 --> 01:11:45.709
[SPEAKER_00]: and you know, and just like with he has this disdain that he uses, there's one thing I didn't like and it was right before the break when Hobbes gets in the ring and, uh, hook catches him and hits a huge overhead suplex.
01:11:46.750 --> 01:11:53.740
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, and it looked impressive as hell, but it also I think it killed
01:11:54.428 --> 01:12:13.993
[SPEAKER_00]: and he ends up outside the ring and the doctor was checking on the whole commercial and he was pretty much out of the match until the finish and then it played into the finish so I think maybe it was storyline but um it was uh I don't know like I don't know what they were thinking because I don't like the idea of Hobbes being hit with a move like that by hook.
01:12:14.393 --> 01:12:21.162
[SPEAKER_01]: No, I don't either and I really want that this heel turn should be an opportunity
01:12:21.732 --> 01:12:26.518
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think get a little bit of it with the power moves don't get me wrong, but hops should be really.
01:12:26.558 --> 01:12:36.792
[SPEAKER_01]: Playing up the heel persona within this short run, because eventually they're going to turn them back baby face with because people love Joe too much correct.
01:12:37.653 --> 01:12:41.378
[SPEAKER_01]: And so Bob should answer about it, but hops should be really.
01:12:42.556 --> 01:12:58.185
[SPEAKER_01]: singing his teeth into this healer on that that they should be no selling for hook that that's he should he should jump up and like nail them with a clothes line like right after there's something yeah because his giant and enormous and should be getting a bigger push in this company.
01:12:58.705 --> 01:13:09.565
[SPEAKER_00]: So eventually, hook gets back in the ring, tried to put a red rom on Hobbes, and he got away, and then he put hook in a backbreaker, Joe Health Kingston off, and Hook submitted.
01:13:09.826 --> 01:13:12.972
[SPEAKER_00]: So hook submits in the main event two weeks in a row.
01:13:13.793 --> 01:13:15.496
[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, and that was that.
01:13:15.657 --> 01:13:16.478
[SPEAKER_00]: So,
01:13:16.458 --> 01:13:19.061
[SPEAKER_00]: Eddie checked on them and then next week.
01:13:19.902 --> 01:13:20.483
[SPEAKER_00]: They announced this.
01:13:20.523 --> 01:13:22.246
[SPEAKER_00]: I missed it, but I'm reading some notes here.
01:13:23.127 --> 01:13:27.993
[SPEAKER_00]: Hangman is going up against how powerhouse Hobbes falls down anywhere match.
01:13:28.434 --> 01:13:31.157
[SPEAKER_00]: So this is on the same card as blood and guts.
01:13:32.459 --> 01:13:37.385
[SPEAKER_00]: So we're doing we're getting two blood and guts matches and hangman against not the same week.
01:13:37.425 --> 01:13:41.110
[SPEAKER_01]: Now the women's blood guts is next week and the men's own two weeks.
01:13:41.591 --> 01:13:44.254
[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, they're both in the same week.
01:13:46.276 --> 01:13:49.601
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, Jeff, so there's a three hour show.
01:13:50.462 --> 01:13:51.564
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a two and a half hour show.
01:13:53.166 --> 01:13:53.447
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
01:13:54.008 --> 01:13:59.656
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so yeah, the collision we've got John Moxian Roderick strong match three of the blood and guts.
01:13:59.736 --> 01:14:02.901
[SPEAKER_00]: Then we got Sky Blue and Jamie Hater and match two of the blood and guts.
01:14:03.582 --> 01:14:10.933
[SPEAKER_00]: So obviously, Jamie's winning that one to tie it up and then the third match if necessary, Tecla against Harley Cameron.
01:14:11.474 --> 01:14:15.760
[SPEAKER_00]: So Tecla, obviously, is winning that one and the heels will get the
01:14:15.841 --> 01:14:24.489
[SPEAKER_00]: And then next week, blood and guts, men, men, the men's baby faces against the death writers, it's a conglomeration of Darby against the death writers.
01:14:25.049 --> 01:14:27.952
[SPEAKER_00]: And then the women, baby faces against the women heels.
01:14:28.912 --> 01:14:32.856
[SPEAKER_00]: And hang man versus powerhouse Hobbes and a false county where match.
01:14:32.876 --> 01:14:40.162
[SPEAKER_00]: Why you would do a false county where match involving your world champion on the same show as two blood and guts matches is beyond me.
01:14:40.563 --> 01:14:45.747
[SPEAKER_01]: But that's what they're doing.
01:14:46.486 --> 01:14:49.390
[SPEAKER_00]: survivor series is like two weeks after this.
01:14:49.410 --> 01:14:50.812
[SPEAKER_01]: I know, but nobody will want to want.
01:14:50.933 --> 01:14:51.934
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I don't want to watch that.
01:14:52.014 --> 01:14:54.798
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just I. W. Do there's what I want to go to that.
01:14:54.858 --> 01:14:56.221
[SPEAKER_00]: Nobody's watching dynamite either.
01:14:56.281 --> 01:14:57.222
[SPEAKER_00]: If you've seen the rates.
01:14:59.586 --> 01:15:02.270
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm saying internally, this is probably what they're thinking.
01:15:02.390 --> 01:15:02.890
[SPEAKER_00]: Got you.
01:15:02.931 --> 01:15:03.231
[SPEAKER_00]: Got you.
01:15:03.912 --> 01:15:05.554
[SPEAKER_00]: I just.
01:15:05.594 --> 01:15:08.899
[SPEAKER_00]: Tony's putting on a bang or that's that's what's happening.
01:15:09.160 --> 01:15:10.241
[SPEAKER_00]: No, it'll be a great match.
01:15:10.261 --> 01:15:10.882
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure.
01:15:11.103 --> 01:15:12.004
[SPEAKER_00]: Don't get me wrong.
01:15:12.372 --> 01:15:31.097
[SPEAKER_01]: But the women's match is interesting because it feels like this is going to be the type of thing where Remember when they were doing war games in NXT and everybody brings a weapon and you know people climbing all over the cage and things I think the women are going to ball out and and they're going to like they're going to have a great match.
01:15:31.137 --> 01:15:37.926
[SPEAKER_00]: I think How good yeah, and I mean those guys obviously that match is someone might actually die in that match.
01:15:38.046 --> 01:15:39.848
[SPEAKER_01]: I love that next week show
01:15:43.945 --> 01:15:46.693
[SPEAKER_01]: And then there goes the, okay.
01:15:46.713 --> 01:15:48.177
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think that's going to happen.
01:15:48.257 --> 01:15:50.162
[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, you mentioned Blackjack.
01:15:50.182 --> 01:15:50.904
[SPEAKER_00]: That's what I want to do.
01:15:50.964 --> 01:15:53.331
[SPEAKER_00]: So get your marks.
01:15:53.471 --> 01:15:57.081
[SPEAKER_01]: Accrep game 13 on x shake them ropes.
01:15:57.101 --> 01:15:59.608
[SPEAKER_01]: I record with Rob McCarron tomorrow.
01:16:00.787 --> 01:16:25.545
[SPEAKER_01]: Talk a little bit about Ridge Holland and it's kind of in your main a bit early talk about the fall out for Saturday night's main event and Logan Paul joining the vision question mark possibly so I'll probably drop on Friday morning because the flagships also recording and they don't like to put my show up until late so Friday morning Friday afternoon check your pot feeds check the ropes or the voices of wrestling mega feed for that.
01:16:26.707 --> 01:16:31.955
[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, I hint for all you people if you're getting paid by a company that you're not actually working for any more.
01:16:32.015 --> 01:16:35.019
[SPEAKER_00]: Don't be bad enough in the mid public or they may stop paying you.
01:16:36.141 --> 01:16:38.905
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to aid.
01:16:38.925 --> 01:16:41.409
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I will be I think back with Garrett on Monday.
01:16:41.429 --> 01:16:46.096
[SPEAKER_00]: We haven't done a show last two weeks for various reasons, but I think we'll be back with the take down on Monday.
01:16:46.697 --> 01:16:55.650
[SPEAKER_00]: And then I'll be back next week with Jeff here on the Dynamite Show back in my home studio in the cold as hell Winnipeg Manitoba.
01:16:56.018 --> 01:17:11.479
[SPEAKER_00]: After winning a trios match for a million dollars to make up for his black check losses there you go there you go so for Jeff Hawkins I've been Paul Fontaine and this has been the dynamite show Split those face cards











