Forbidden Door Live Report, Tiger Mask's Career Finale & Korakuen Hall Preview | Speaking of Strong Style

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[SPEAKER_00]: forbidden door took place in San Jose, California this past weekend, and our own Jeremy Feinstone was their live and in person, and he'll give us a full report on the show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sounds like he's got a lot to say about it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What did it mean for the current New Japan product?

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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll find out, and we'll also look ahead to the final G1 qualifiers, plus two title matches coming up this week, and more on Tiger Mask as his retirement approaches.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Welcome, everyone, to Speaking of Strong Style.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We discussed the news issues in events surrounding New Japan, pro wrestling, work contributors to the fight game media network.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Jeremy, I am telling you this, nothing is going to bring me down today.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, first of all, the United States defeated Bosnia Herzegovina last night in the World Cup, and your neck of the woods right up there in the Bay Area, moved on to the final 16 the World Cup.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to be attending Australia versus Egypt tomorrow in the Round of 32 in Dallas.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm seeing one of my all-time favorite players, Muhammad Salah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm wearing his jersey

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[SPEAKER_00]: against the Padres yesterday.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I am unstoppable.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Nothing is bringing me down.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I hope your week has been as good as mine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Stephen, I'm going to take a wild shot and see if I can't dead that armor in any way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You ready for it?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You ready for it?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Tony Colin, if now a friend of the podcast.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Not even that, not even that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Not even that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Not even that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Not even that fact.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Everybody in the truth story.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He is in fact a friend and we'll get to that later on in the show, but hello Steven, I'm glad you're in your experience plan.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's great to hear.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Feeling great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Feeling great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Fernando, so over here, I'm not even going to let you troll me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Fernando, you can stick it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if it was in the chat trying to troll me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Not even listening.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Cannot dent my arm or this week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: 20 free.

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[SPEAKER_01]: How do you get a break break you're right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Ain't nobody going to hold you down.

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[SPEAKER_00]: 13 home runs in the last two games.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, you got to keep on moving.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and nothing's bringing me down, nothing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, you attended for Bitten Door, and I, geez, I don't even know where to start with what you've been telling us on this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll get to the show in a little bit, but as you may have mentioned there at the beginning or not that you may have mentioned, you did mention it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You met Tony Khan.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it was at the end of a very long night, but I just had to say it was a really great show that they had.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I kind of went in kind of like, all right, who are they going to do with it?

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[SPEAKER_01]: They really did deliver a great show top to bottom.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There were people that were calling it like the greatest show of all time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I will tell you, I did not feel that way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I did feel like it was a very good show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've been to live AEW shows in which I felt like, oh my god, this was the greatest experience I ever had, which was the...

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[SPEAKER_01]: Adam Cole Brian Daniels and debut so when people like try and eloquate and say like oh hey this is the greatest one of all time like I've been doing pretty good one because this is pretty good and there's nothing wrong with pretty good but it wasn't a great example time but my experience they have been the the the whole thing starting because I went for the press pass and

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[SPEAKER_01]: Jericho golf was a press-a-long guy Dave Malker and Dave Malker being Dave Malker, brought family and they were all welcome because Tony Con really liked Dave Malker.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You don't say.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I don't know if there was any evidence out there that would give you that indication.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I feel like if Dave and Tony got along, I would have heard of it by now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Tony did his show, which

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[SPEAKER_01]: Good show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, a very good show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We then went to the press scrum and it was an interesting experience being in the press scrum.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I I'm more of kind of that and watched and just saw how this all kind of played out and tried to get a read for like what questions.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought were really good and what questions I didn't because if I get this opportunity again, I will I will ask questions, but I don't want to look like

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[SPEAKER_01]: the fanboy asking question that want to be asking like actual legitimate question that overlay what happened in that evening.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it was there were there a lot of learning on the job as I was doing it as my first experience.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we had the press grum and it was Mercedes Monade with Tech-Line, with what law spray.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They were all within like 10 feet of me because I was in the front row just trying to

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[SPEAKER_01]: Trying to be the person that I guess I'm going to stand in the front row.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not going to head back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I would like to be allowed back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'd like to make some impression all of these things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so all of that happened.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Renee comes out, Tony and Renee kind of have their little stick that they do at the, at the scrum, the whole thing finishes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think it's done.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then Tony just sat today.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like did come on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they're ready to go down the hallway.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Dave's like, uh, come on, everybody doesn't even have to.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's just like, all right, come on, everybody.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So there's entire entourage just to be able to come along with Tony and so we're all walking down the hallway.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's got three security guards with him, like walking down the hallway.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Look at him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's in punks going to be in one of those stops halfway through.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Edit the up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's the bold black man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Then that's all in the show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a security and like outside outside outside the ring and he stopped because he says hey listen Dave is everybody here with you and he's like yes, he's like all right, and then you keep on moving And so walk down the hallway and we stop outside

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I would believe it like I believe it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just I'm just I'm just I'm just having a good check.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I believe it I have no trouble believing that he has to be security guards around him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, right after the scrub, you know Like you there are foreign people people you don't you're not sure of a foreign people There's one thing you can't stand so foreigners stop stop

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[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, so we go out there, we stuff it all way, and we just gave and him proceed to just have a conversation.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they're just chatting and we're all just flies on the wall.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And about 10 or 15 minutes, I just say something to him and we start talking and I call to mention him on the tapestry of the sinlay and jay white stuff that happened at the show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it will get into it later on and also you in on it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we're going to go over forbidden door match by match right and he was especially flattered than I that I understood everything and complimented it on that and then we really bonded when about five minutes later I have to Tony were you terminally online on a well in the 90s growing up and he's like oh yes absolutely it's like so I think I understand you completely and he's like yeah

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we had our little moment and then for proof I did take a photo.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not sharing it unless I really, really have to or with friends.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I took a photo of Tony Conte because I had a chance to take a photo of Tony Conte and I took a photo of Tony Conte but no.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There are a lot of narratives about Tony call online.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, there are a lot of opinion being made because it decisions that he made or perception or the appearance of how other people want him to look according to what their motive got.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm here to tell you, I spent 30 minutes with the guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I, I like to think that I have a curve and our pretty good judge of character in getting vibes and an instinct in that base of your, your gut kind of thing and Steven, there's not a red flag on the dude.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He is such a nice guy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: he was, I've never heard anything but that he was a nice person.

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[SPEAKER_00]: In fact, if anything, he's kind of guy who seems incapable of saying no, even when he should.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I mean, oh, he could say no.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like he, he 100% felt like he was in charge of the entire back area.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There was no like, there was nothing about it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There was a guy bringing him a fresh cup of coffee at the scrum to make sure that it was kept.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was like a signal.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was just like

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like it was, there were people ready to make sure that like he will handle so he could do his job and I was really impressed by that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like he had to do the press from.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He had him video.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know that Tony has fresh coffee.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm the thank goodness.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he doesn't drink and he's he wired.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He had full energy for he had way more energy than I did at Midnight.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: be nice.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm being nice.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm smiling.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, yeah, of course he had a lot of energy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, and of course he's in charge.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He owns the place.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, he owns most of it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But like there's no question.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, like you feel like, oh, you trip this millionaire kid with his dad's money, like running his money.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, just not that if not that energy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, he is a billionaire's kid running.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he is a billionaire's kid, but with his dad's money.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just, I

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[SPEAKER_01]: I have a lot of respect for him and the way that he ran his show and the way that he conducted his business and the way that he treated other people.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, that's good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: With the interaction that I had with him and I just I really needed under my mind.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, no, I've never heard that he was a bad person or even a difficult person.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think that that's even been a rumor that he's that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I'm glad to hear that that's true.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's nice that it's nice that that's true.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, so like I just I really wanted to underline that because he showed a lot of hospitality, but at the same time like he was very honest and forthcoming about like his answer is what he couldn't could not say about like results on the show and how we came to some decisions.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, he confirmed that Calvin Newman did in fact have a really big role on this show and then as she he has been injured, said February and he has not been cleared yet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: you know, J.

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[SPEAKER_01]: White came back this week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: These were all things that like some of it was revealed to the entire press.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Some of those just revealed to like Dave and me and Garrett and like this is information that is going to come out in the observer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But this is what happened and it was like it was really fascinating to see like how he was responding to these things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Dave was talking to him about the

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[SPEAKER_01]: I got to tell you the look on a face was like he was really happy about the potentiality that you would end up all on the paramount network rather than Netflix and I was like, Well, he ain't going to Netflix.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We know that right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He knew that like you knew that like they're it just,

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can very much, and you made it clear on that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And cable have more details in the observer about exactly what you said on there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But those are,

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was all just stuff that we talked about.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Then yeah, we talked about being kids blowing up our parent car and well dial up budget and getting yelled at.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he laughed and said it actually made it easier to order a paper view and hide inside because it was much cheaper than the dial up bills that he was incurring, trying to just be online all the time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, yes, I understand.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I was doing the paper view.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just getting a trouble.

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[SPEAKER_00]: My apartment in college was where everybody went to watch the paper views, because I didn't live in the dorms.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I had my own apartment, so we can actually, you know, order chicken wings and hang out and not be packed into a tiny dorm room or something like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, not that my apartment was large, it's a college apartment, but it was bigger than a dorm.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I was always head quarters for the WWF and WCW paper views.

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[SPEAKER_00]: UFC back then, but back then, it was only a couple of, there were only a couple of UFC's a year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think maybe quarterly, not even that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So my was always pay-per-view essential in my place, which was good because it made me clean up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What I wanted special setting when you say stuff like that, if I think about the age gap between you and I and then It made me laugh about the age gap between me and my wife because I met her in my weight 30s and she was just turning 30 and so She liked to do that little joke about the 90s where I like I ask her if she saw something in the 90s like yeah, I look like four and I was like

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[SPEAKER_01]: Don't do that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Come on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, oh, I would definitely have not watched a paper view for the 90s in the dorm because I think 99 was my first opportunity to do that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think the first paper view I watched in the dorm was actually in the year 2000 for the row rumble with Mick Foley and Triple H.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's what I got back into it after ducking out in the early 90s around the Persian Gulf war angles.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: My dad was in the reserve field over there just in weird like I look into it and just kind of.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then, call on it, got my life, and then somehow the fusion of comment, control wrestling, and public speaking, led me to a podcast, and other podcasts, and other podcasts, and then meeting Tony Collins, and hanging out with him, and I don't know, Steven, sometimes my wife will be fucking weird.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, that was my freshman year in college when I found out about the observer, really.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The observer didn't have a presence in South Bend where I was growing up, and so it was a friend of mine, Ron, who had a subscription to the observer, and we found out that we were

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[SPEAKER_00]: both wrestling fans.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not something you go and shout from the heavens, you know, as in 1993 and college, but we figured out that we were both wrestling fans and became friends.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And became friends for a lot of reasons.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was just one of them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he's the one that showed me the observer for the first time too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that was back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like the wreck, wreck.sports.com.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I will go on the tail end of YouthNet for all the comic book stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There were RAC, Ants, was a RECARX Columnic Edmund.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Anything in the Ed's been for a had the Ed's acronym, and then there was a RECARX Column Superheroes, which is General Superheroes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's why I first saw people doing all the line reviews of Column, before,

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[SPEAKER_01]: before there was like, paid a play and absentee, it was um, and all that kind of stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and I was reading the wrestling magazines, the K-Fablets, before that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And just understanding that they were K-Fab and just

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[SPEAKER_00]: I realized that I was reading the storylines, not anything backstage, I knew that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But that's how I was aware of what was going on in New Japan because there would be small blurbs in some of those London publishing magazines that would give you an indication of

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[SPEAKER_00]: Ricky Choshu, you know, he guys like can go Camora and things that you know, it here about guys say to hero say to, especially after he's the one that got into the fight with the police with Ken Peterra and Minnesota and got locked up in an American jail for a right, right, right, you know, and that he went back to Japan because, you know, he had to when they kicked him out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, you're not allowed to stay here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You can't stay here anymore.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It took half the police department to subdue you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're going to have to go and tough man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so the but anyway, so that that was the the Rex sports pro wrestling thing that was a guy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I wish I could remember his name because he was a big part of part of the reason I'm such a Japanese fan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But he went to the university in North Texas.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I remember that because it was in his signature.

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[SPEAKER_00]: on all of his posts and he was Japanese and he was over here for college and he would post the results from New Japan, all Japan, UWFI, that's when Vader and Takata were in the work.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I would just get up and doodifully read these results every day and I could follow along with both New Japan and all Japan and that's fascinated and that's and I then I was in a tape trading and the whole thing just that's how it all got started so that you know that a lot those days man those are those are the form of years I mean.

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[SPEAKER_01]: a lot of people cut their teeth on that in our, in our generation, you know, and then there were the forum, like Delphi Forum, and then there were forum everywhere, you, uh, Yahoo forum and places to go and then a well had their own like little universe there and then it just kind of people like starting looking for places like death Valley driver like the dead Valley boards and and all that stuff and it just.

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[SPEAKER_01]: everyone ended up finding their kind of place and hopefully the community that you find when you're here doing the pro wrestling is one of the little more healthy than toxic but whatever it is just enjoy being with your people and enjoy enjoy the culture of pro wrestling because that's what it all works.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Find your tribe.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Find your tribe.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We've gone almost 20 minutes

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm trying to figure out how to get to it and I haven't figured out a segue yet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, I bought the air rule of headband and I'm wearing it for the show, Steve, and that's the segue.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Did you just order that one off the top?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just ordered it and mowing behold, it showed up about 20 minutes before the show and like, well, Brad's going to be happy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Which, which was the reason I literally bang the cymbals like a monkey and I bought this thing because I was like, you know what, why not, surprisingly comfortable, I'm not gonna, yeah, very, very soft, it's reversible, you have the, you have the, the wolf, whoa go, sure I got the ears, but if you turn it around you have the starlight kid ears, yeah, turn it around, hold on here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so when he turns it around folks for the folks that are listening, this is a podcast.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can't wait to know that I'm an Aaron Wolf fan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it looks like a set of wolf's eyes and wolf's ears.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It turns around just says the words Aaron Wolf and the years are tan now instead of black.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Brad is a happy man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to bring it out there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It is too hard for you there, Jeremy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There I did it, buddy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I did it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no

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[SPEAKER_01]: hoodie, and also when I got this thing, they sent me a little flyer Steve and it said, hey, New Japan world, it's going to air the G1 climate live, and it's not going to cost any extra money whatsoever, it'll just be $9.99 a month.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, no, no, no, not necessarily a territory $999.99, not $999 since cheaper than that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It would only do say $999 a month on the other thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It does.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my gosh.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I had to correct you, Steven, because that's the official American budget that they're charging even though the yen will frequently like Mess it up and get it to a different calculation

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I think I'm paying like $6 and change.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, like eight or seven right now, but it's not much.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It ain't much.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It'll deal, but I'm trying to decide Jeff, tell him, not strictly New Japan gear.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to wear to the June climate so we go next week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, do I wear the tracksuit and the air and wolf headband?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And maybe like a ton of hot she shirt underneath.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do I go wild or do I go subtle, Stephen?

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is this struggle that I'm having about,

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[SPEAKER_01]: just how much flair that I have for the G1 attending.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to be wearing my Taii G-shirt in Memorial to my Holy Emperor.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The 999 Japanese yen coming out to $6 and 20 cents a month.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Folks can't beat the deal.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Can't beat the Tom Talks rubbish is here too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, Tom, good to see you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's see you here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We've had a little bit of fun here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This I enjoyed that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I enjoyed talking about our, our fandom and things and a little bit of personal info in there and how we all got going on our, our fan, uh, dumb of wrestling and it sounds like Tony had a similar experience.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But you were in attendance for forbidden door.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we're going to move in the behind the scenes stuff to a little bit of the show itself.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And but you're going to walk through it now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We mentioned that we split this before.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I handle fantastic ammonium mxcokes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm literally right not in the CMLL fan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I watch the rest of the tour, which was interesting to see as these guys worked like five days that week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And consecutively.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you're handling the forbidden door.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So just like I took over on Fantastic Media last week, you're going to take over here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So walk us through the show, Jeremy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you want to bring up the matches, I can introduce them and throw it to you, however you want.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you don't just run it through, you know, to kind of rock on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll do that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll do the terrific context.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can jump in there if you got anything.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, if you didn't really watch, I'll just kind of let you know what happened.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then go ahead and kind of go with that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So how to get there before 4 o'clock, before there's 0 hour matches.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that is exactly what I did.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Didn't miss anything at all.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Managed to sit down.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the first thing we had out the gate was Diego Garcia, doing his deathrider's entrance to the side.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we also had Rilla Maloney, NutriPand veteran coming on out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: How these years, all these years, the deathwriters still can't get into the locker room.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's amazing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They have their own ways of entering and exiting the arena and it is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: a march of death, Stephen, a march of death.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They likely used to work death a lot in AEW and we'll get into that a little bit later, unless they all have them came from a place where you're not allowed to use such things as that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No hospital, no death, no bell tower, that's probably true.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So Dr. Muloney and Dingo Garcia had a totally fine competitor batch.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Drill has got the G1 next week so I was kind of thinking like don't put him in a match and have him lose right before he goes and been G1 and thankfully he hit Garfield with the drill killer called him today.

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[SPEAKER_01]: exactly got been fine match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Next one we had was one of your familiar Mike came from start-up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She had an AEW TBS title survival the fittest qualifying match, which was

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[SPEAKER_01]: TBS women's title, which is their, they're, they're been leveled out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There wasn't winner, but I did not catch all of dynamite last night because my life has been chaos all of the last week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm assuming she don't want to enter something like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I believe I, I believe I've heard this well, I'm actually one of those get a chase before going all in and this is just an easy little angle, just like that, that's fine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So make a defeated sky blue

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[SPEAKER_01]: Mike is a much more talented wrestler, much more skilled wrestler than Sky Blue, but I got to tell you the presentation of Sky Blue is very good, very next level.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's got all of the appearance of a pro wrestler, but

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[SPEAKER_01]: the level of improvement she managed to make since she showed up in Chicago in 2021.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I wish there was more, but she seems to be doing just fine in the role that she has, and so maybe that day will come.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But if it does, the guys, the one that for the her potential.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Next match was the AEW Women's Techety Title Match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was divine Dominion, Steven, and that is

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[SPEAKER_01]: And maybe, oh, yes, of course.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yes, who I could not, who I blanked on the name of after we could, I felt so bad.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We struggled on that one, didn't we?

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, well, we know who it is now, by Cranky.

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[SPEAKER_01]: How to Ruff one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: In the feed it, it would be up from KMLL and Thunder Rosa.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They were wrapping kind of to KMLL, Lucia flavor.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And in the past,

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[SPEAKER_01]: the dividing in, having like five-minute challenges, matches in the middle, we're going five minutes or less on the pre-show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And this could win 10 minutes, the last few minutes they faced kind of blew away that stipulations, so once that one did, it kind of like don't bring it back, because you know, you kind of got made to work foolish.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we did kind of a normal,

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[SPEAKER_01]: tag team, women's title match, and with the way that you would think, you know, dividing and got the, got the heat by, you know, isolating the roads for a while.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It would be a came, they got the heat, they got the advantage for a while at the very end, dividing and got the advantage, hit their double finisher like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They both went the way to up in this dropper down and kind of like the rate of her own kind of style, but with two people.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they retained their titles.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Brad mentions here that Lempia look good doing her power moves.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She's very strong.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Rosa was Rosa, according to Brad.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Rosa, I think she's such a

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[SPEAKER_01]: She has such a connection with the audience in the bay and in typical like Hispanic Chicano, Tejano kind of areas.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so she came out, she she grew up in the Mexican flag, she was getting a lot of reaction from the San Jose area, which you know, kind of a strongly surprising

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so it was a good opponent for the divine dominion who were the stars coming in and coming out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They had an excellent opening video coming out where they were both kind of side by side and then like walking forward and saying their lines.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But like there was a dividing line between them as they both come out and they're like huge regal paid like.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Anatonian patronage kind of decor and they're both like sick feet tall and look absolutely statuous like I don't mean to objectify the glint but they're gorgeous you know like they're absolutely like dropped and stunning they're called the divine domain and you can their beauty and their beast at the same time and that's basically the whole deal with them

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Olympia has like a bodybuilder type of his own very powerhouse type of a legendora.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Kind of look like Jordan Grayson's build a little bit, you know, like just very bulky and can move and agile at the same time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, if divine to me and I imagine is leading to a face also to brawling birds that Wendley, which will be kind of the, which is outgoing of their and Jamie Hater, just kind of, wasn't that a mobile game?

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[SPEAKER_01]: uh, brawling burnt?

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, that's angry burnt, my friend.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, that's what it was.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The, uh, I tend to think that the brawling burns is kind of a tribute modern day version of the British bulldogs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, but with with with burns instead of with with like the dogs kind of thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So,

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[SPEAKER_00]: But Brad Mech is Olympia's like CMLL's version of Cia Edo from Stardom who's the powerhouse there in Stardom She's big she's a lot bigger than Edo, but who isn't eat is really small.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean just very short, but but very strong.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, what's next we have the main show even

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[SPEAKER_01]: I got to get to that list right here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It started off, started off strong.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe not strong for, maybe not strong for you, but it was a strong strong show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was the young books versus L. Sky Team, which was Master Roderam, Mr. Go, and then Schinger Tikagi and Teton.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So this was 18 minutes of just

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[SPEAKER_01]: Pure, pure, like, let's go fast, let's go fast, let's go fast, let's go fast, let's go fast, let's go fast, let's go fast, let's go fast, let's go, let's go fast, let's go fast, let's go let's go fast, let's go fast, let's go fast, let's go let's go fast, let's go fast, let's go fast, let's go fast, let's go fast, let's go fast, let's go fast, let's go fast, let's go fast, let's go fast, let's go fast, let's go fast, let's go fast, let's go fast, let's go fast, let's go fast, let's go fast, let's go fast, let's go fast, let's go fast, let's go fast, let's go fast, let's go fast, let's go fast, let's go fast, let's go fast, let's

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, Nick Jats in America, Gerada.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the audience hummed as if like, wow, this is really cool that he's got Nick Jats and when he does, it's single matches.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's really good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's Gerada, you know, it's just an up-and-commer and he's just got kind of a buzz about him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The audience really wanted to see these two go out with each other.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And ended up with the buck getting the, um,

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[SPEAKER_01]: hitting the multidriver or whatever driver that you want to call it on Teton if we kind of assumed would be to get to win and appear if they were not required to wrestle after the match and so they will be back on TV in a few weeks, but I believe this is more trying to build them up as contender for the tag team champion for Christian Cage and Copeland going forward.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I really like this match

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[SPEAKER_01]: and definitely a PWG, almost a party match style.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Teton and Teton, excuse me, Mystico and Mascara Gerado, this guy team there, just recently won the Ring of Honor titles, TCT titles in Arena Mexico.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that means Mystico now holds the CMLL title, one of the many, and he holds the IWGP Junior Tag Team titles with this Dorado and the Ring of Honor title, Tag Team title with Mascara Gerado, Mano Mini-Biltz.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He did not carry the junior heavyweight title with him from New Japan.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He only had to ring a boner title with him and master it because that was the one that was most wrapping for the AEW Flash Ring of Honor audience and the one that's right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They had just won that a couple of nights before.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So if you have two nights before on the Friday show and somebody had like brought it up in the press conference, then the press like in the report thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, she going to draw her an attack tonight.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the same.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's going to be in drill alone.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're going to be in my chest.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you stand in the stage until next week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because why not, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Why, why, why, why, why.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, actually, why, why, why deal with that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're going to have to deal with that for a couple of days.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Go hang out, you know.

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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, so the clothes who were really good match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, they had the titles to bring them on her titles.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, the titles were not on the line.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, yes, they were protected.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Teton took the pin.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, can you omega was next, basically, off of the Zat Saber Jr.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, can you omega Zat Saber Jr. with second on this car.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you're just kind of like, okay, this is looking at a high energy match to it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And can you omega having a single snatch on any show, being in any show is special.

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[SPEAKER_00]: right like just because he gets hurt and every other match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, you know, he's on a good run right now and I feel very, very lucky that I got to see one of his matches from the perspective that I did.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He and Zach had a blood feud match for like the first five minutes and then it went

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[SPEAKER_01]: they really did, you know, it's kind of like a build to get into the match and then once they once they got there, they just kind of did the wrestling match and tried to do that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There was a sequence on the outside where Zach tried to, um,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to say like pedigree or power bomb Kenny on to the announced table and it didn't work out and they both ended up tumbling to the outside awkwardly and that's that say we're doing your stood up put a pan to the above all right everybody to a John the audience uh cheered wildly for for such shenanigans uh very good match not the best match I think these two could have in the scenario that it was I I loved it it was

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[SPEAKER_01]: a 4.75, you know, when I would have just assumed five, that would have tried to save, like it was really, really good, but it wasn't, it wasn't like top of the,

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[SPEAKER_01]: top of what they could do if they were really making magic together.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The whole story of the match was Kenny Omega trying to find a killer instinct because you're getting a challenging for the title next week on Dynamite and that whole story in and of itself and so this match was to help get him to the level of I need to be the old Kenny Omega, the one that was the best

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[SPEAKER_01]: I need to be that guy, and this was him trying to find himself in that match that was the story they were trying to tell.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, that's, we had John Malksley versus Bandito and We talked last week about how that we worked with this guys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and it's had the Call of Newman was supposed to be the opponent for this match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, every indication in the world was pointing that way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so when we were at the uh, we were talking to Tony, uh, just you talk way, I had to make a lot of changes to this card because of injuries and all that stuff like yeah, I'm assuming Kalman had a pretty important singles match on this card and he looked at me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, yeah, he had a really important match on the card.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So pretty much like I.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I mean, like, he doesn't, he doesn't reveal a card, but now it's about as much as I was going to get from him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And if it was wrong, like, he would have corrected me kind of thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I mean, that's what we all kind of, I mean, this isn't some big of, you know, and I'm not trying to like, right, right, right, right, but like this is how it started.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we pulled that thread and we did our work.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, like, when we come to these conclusions, we try to do the work if best we can to like draw the correct conclusion and not

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, that's not, that's not a New Japan match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So what was there for them?

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[SPEAKER_01]: We had John Motsley defeating Bandito, which was the match that we were talking about.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And this was a really good match that they threw together.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it's not a New Japan match, though.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So what's that?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I thought we were just talking about the old card.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, OK.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you want to, if there's something New Japan

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[SPEAKER_01]: So John Moxley defeats Bandito.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He bullied him, he ripped his math apart, he put what he came up at the very end of the match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Bandito trying to go for his plets, suplex off the ropes, he slides.

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[SPEAKER_01]: John Moxley gets him in the boy choke and takes him out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This leads into the next match where, you know, Moxley is kind of in the,

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[SPEAKER_01]: In the 4A, you finish because that's the path that's up net.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're facing shoulder, oh, but no.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, show to Umino come out and this is the first time you've got his belt and it's also confirmed Gabe Kid was supposed to be facing him on the show and it did not work out so they're facing all so not a new Japan show in a week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Show to Umino coming out every five minutes he showed in the belt walking five steps, almost up his jacket, show to the belt off, walk five steps, almost up the jacket, show to the belt.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He literally does this like five or six times because he just doesn't have his

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[SPEAKER_01]: championship presentation down.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is literally the first time like doing it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we've just kind of feeling it out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was cute and awkward and all this stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But the match was not cute and awkward.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was a little quiet for a bit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It went about 18 minutes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They hit each other very, very hard a lot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But the audience wasn't as familiar with showed to Umino as, you know, as they would want to be.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Pock, he's a very good wrestler, but he is not top of the AEW food change.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, so you have a mixed car match, but it is for the NutriBank global type.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're working really, really hard.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's really strong style stuff, forearm, chops, two pluses, all of these things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They have a table on the outside, and it is not until they're fighting in the ring and

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[SPEAKER_01]: violently throw him carelessly over the side of the rope into the table shattering.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just one of them of gruesome throws that you would ever see and show to just took it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: God up, kept doing the match, all these things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Steven, when I'm at a show, they're very few times like, oh my god, you know, that was when I saw him just throw the row, Shota out the ring onto the table.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I, it was one of those moments.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so Shota eventually hits the second chapter on

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[SPEAKER_01]: Moxley then circles around showed and showed a bat's up into Moxley into the picture that we have for the for the sleep.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, my gosh, I'm mess out of chocolate, a little power up that faith me what it was just violent throwing of this man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Moxley come up and he's just towering over him and just kind of like you know something to kind of happen and then all the kind of her she's on a harsh easy as it comes and he.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He ambushed slowly down from the stage.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Ambulance was a little bit more down the ramp.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Ambulance was a little bit more on the flat ground.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Ambulance was a little bit more up the steps.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Ambulance was a little bit more to the ring.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then proceed to stand behind Shoda as if he had, like, I will protect you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then mark the backs off.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Poroshitana Hashi took the bell around Shoda and everybody fell breaks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what they were going for because I did not watch the broadcast, but when I watched this, I did not feel like the endorsement made Shoto look anything other than like he needed daddy Hiroshi Tana Hashita save him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, um, well,

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've mentioned my theories on Tana Hashie before, and that might exactly be the message that Tana Hashie's trying to send.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, there are very few matches that he could have come out and like made an appearance with Tana Hashie on the show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Doesn't he need it?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Doesn't he know?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They did celebrate him backstage.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They gave him, he thinks he needs to be there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's for sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Tony Todd did, in fact, celebrate him and by him a custom guitar from AEW, a black, a black beautiful guitar.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and they gave him a real guitar in the celebration of this career I can't play there guitar with the real guitar what can I tell you man he's not playing here guitar if he actually played guitar he played guitar

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[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, that would be a ceremonial gift that they gave him a bat stage on the show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, what was the one where, when Mick Foley was Cactus Jack, he just said he had to stop carrying the whip because people realized he couldn't crack it because he never did.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Basically, he just felt silly holding it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: When you cracked out whipping, you give the whip a what the crack, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: We had net.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's not all to kind of ended.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They did the arm rate, everything, whatever.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We had talent.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, oh, we have some news here from Brad Brad has a scoop for us at Andy Williams, which cracks me up because that's the thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that was not very difficult.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The very old school singer who did standards and things, but not him, but the butcher, who is in fact a musician, was the one who picked out the guitar for time and how she's.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So there you go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Probably picked out a nice one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Tony Kahn gave him a ton of credit for being a one to pick out a beautiful guitar deserving of one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Horace, you're talking harshly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you, Brad, for the, uh, for the follow-up on that one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The butcher would know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The butcher would know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He can, I don't know any musical slang, so he can play the guitar pretty good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The AEW one for a time, I believe the phrase is shred that the kids are saying.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you, Fred.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you, Stephen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I am not a child, nor am I a musician, so I appreciate the lingo that you're giving me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I am simply an Aaron Wolf fan, an Aaron Wolf fan.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't look at that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm down.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The only thing I shred are famed with my claws, Stephen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Your wolf clothes?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do they have paws?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, yeah, they have, yeah.

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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They have a paw pad with giant, giant claws.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Techwa, which about a very tiny, tiny paw pads as a spider, to get it started on kid.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is a really good match, Starlight Kid with the first opportunity I've never really seen to watch her wrestle wide and she's got something about her.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can't really take her in the mud that just, they both have a really special charisma actually.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And in this ring together, they had a really good match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It felt like a start of match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like they wrestled like crisp and tight and stug and could violently.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They wrestled each other.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know how many times it started over the years when Tecla was there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And of course, that's okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: One of the biggest stars in start himself.

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[SPEAKER_00]: These two should have a good one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they should fall right back into it very smoothly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because they they wrestled each other a lot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So this was the typical matter.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you are familiar with Stardom, it would be the match that you'd be pretty much familiar these two happy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There was a sequence outside where Tekla got into it with Taro Akata.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Again, it did have an impact on the match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The end of the match, basically we had Tekla to seeding Starlight Kid with I believe the spear and then she took her mask and we're at the press conference.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm sure that'll lead to something down the road with them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Ian, of course, Tecla showed up at the recent start-in paper view in attack to Ocada.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They had the whole thing going back to where she, her exit angle in start-in was antagonizing Ocada to the point that he fired her on the microphone.

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[SPEAKER_00]: In front of crowd, that was the story lines to why she left, start-in, and ended up in AEW in the first place.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So this is all just comes around that way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If people want to do earmuffs for a UW potential spoiler is going up, go now, but here it is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Initially, it was supposed to be Tony Storm that went to the Owen Hart Cup.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's no longer in the picture.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was then going to be Willow, and she dislocated her shoulder.

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[SPEAKER_01]: who was going to win the own and that she was going to win the title from Tecla at that was the point.

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[SPEAKER_01]: With that being the case, Tecla could then return to Stardom and do whatever a few that she needs to do, which is not carrying the AEW women's title.

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[SPEAKER_01]: anymore and if a little more, she doesn't need to be as protected and she can do the feud without the responsibility of the objects and not losing matches as the world champion because the priority is working for AEW itself.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it remains to be seen if that is still the plan with Mercedes Monet because there is a real argument that Mercedes losing and keeping all losing

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[SPEAKER_01]: is a very as much more interesting story than her because winning it and then bragging about it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we'll see where that all goes, but that gets us to the AEW world tag team title championship match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And this match, Steven, is Adam Copeland and Fristchen Cage and it is Fristchen's

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[SPEAKER_01]: And when I tell you that this is going to close the chapter on a very important tapestry in New Japan, pro wrestling, I don't know if you're going to believe me until it happens until I get there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, ready for this?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm listening.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The entire built of this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: match with court counter to David Finley really just talking down how old and you know vintage the cage and cope were like being fun of their five second post and and all that day and then trying to like let them know like we're the newer version we're taking over.

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[SPEAKER_01]: While this is all happening, you have the Bing Banging, which is the Gun Brothers, Achahtin, and Juf Robinson.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just kind of mouth and off in the backstage doing some video talking about how they're going to neuter the dogs, they're going to sniff the balls, and they're wavy,

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[SPEAKER_01]: an obscure guy from another faction called the dog to think from TNA or MLW or whatever, then they actually did like a sketch of where they, they like joked castrated him but it was part of the sequence of like trying to violently like take out the dog like if Jeff Robinson being unhinged as a veterinarian and trying to like we're going to take you out dogs and

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[SPEAKER_01]: Does this make any sense of just Robin from being out of the clue we out of the find?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Nope, there we go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Can't train a dog and anyone in the faction who will take a dog is going to get a dog.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, there we go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So this is all happening in the run up to this match, and you have this match, and it's actually, it's a really good match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Court corner could definitely know how to wrestle a violent style.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're not afraid to lay it in with cage and cope.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, they're smaller, but they can, they can, they can hate.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's good for them that they can, and they have a really good match in it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, they can certainly hang with Kage and Co.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess, but if one of those, they have to, they have to wrestle against Kage and Co. And not not look like they can't hang to the audience.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, to good that when they wrestled them, it looked like they'd be wrong to the favoring together.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just, that was the kind of,

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[SPEAKER_01]: There are times when the whole stars make the younger stars look lesser and Connor has had a lot of potential in AEW and didn't feel like it's looking really good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So what I would try to say, uh, we get to near the end of the match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Copeland thinks he has the match one, but uh, simply hits the shoelayly with him and he has about to just kind of beat him

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[SPEAKER_01]: Remember we're at San Jose here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The lights go out in the ramp, eliminate it, and it's the bang bang hang, doing their all four of them in a circle with their guns up, just ready to go, like, hey, we're here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And in the ring behind David Finley is Jay White.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Wow, of course, the last time these two were together in San Jose, it was after Jay White lost his loser leaves in JPW match and before he could give his goodbye speech, you got clocked in the head of the slaylet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Correct.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So four years later in San Jose, just down the street from the San Jose city, Tony Con, close the chapter on this whole thing when Jay White came took his revenge.

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[SPEAKER_01]: David Finley gave him a blade runner in the middle of the ring, which David Finley stumbled back up eventually took a spear from Copeland and they retained the titles.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Afterward, J.

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[SPEAKER_01]: White,

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[SPEAKER_01]: did not know but you probably I'm going to tell you now was friends with Copeland when he got injured if they were trying to take out a mock plea the death writer champion at the time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He celebrated with Copeland.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Christian was none too pleased with this little jealous, so to like what are you doing, giving my title.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he kind of bats off and then Jay goes, jumps up the ramp, does the whole jump into the crowd with the rest of the bang

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[SPEAKER_01]: We are back to the dog versus the bang bang gang.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm finally ready for this feud, Stephen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Ready for this to finally happen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yes, that was what I complimented Tony Conon.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I thought it was really fantastic that he managed to bring Jay White back in San Jose.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Recall this angle from New Japan pro wrestling four years ago.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And kind of wrap it full circle in a way that was really, really satisfying for people who've been paying attention for all this time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was really hoping that when the call back happened, it happened like this and it did.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I just I was really able to express to how much I appreciate it that and he appreciated that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he appreciated that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's not just good, and it will not great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a lot of people that are going to tell you this match is very, very, very good to great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There were things that I saw in this match live that had me convinced that it was just very good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that my world has a lot of potential moving forward in the company, in the wrestling profession, however, she hit fit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She lost her brother in a tragic car accident and her

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[SPEAKER_01]: She had some wardrobe issues throughout the match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There were some big spots at the very end where it required both of them to execute a move and she was not able to execute her part of the move.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Granted, the match went 25 minutes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was the biggest stage.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The biggest matches she had ever had.

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[SPEAKER_01]: me calling it a good performance by her and not great is not a diminishment of her in any way shape or form, but I just had to make that clear because there are going to be criticisms of this match in the wrestling of Bremer tomorrow that echo what I'm saying and it just needs to be clear that the internet is not going to burn down tomorrow despite how many people want that to be the case.

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[SPEAKER_01]: but it was not great when I was watching it live.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There were sequences that were very good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There were sequences that were not very good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: My a world.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, you know, for like her pedigree, she came in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She, she and Hayen, high end of my world, came in after the Teagan Knox kind of blow up that day where they were trying to like, why don't you give me a better push, just not to kind of match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know what, you can just go and they gave the opportunity to my world.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And she's capitalized that all the way to this point.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, credential her, awesome, fantastic.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was a very competitive match and then with Maya had Mercedes in the paint statement and she is one of more genius versions of the rope spot in which she ended up trying to push on the rope to get more leverage so that Mercedes could not then going backwards and Mercedes able to convert into her into the paint statement and then getting the win and then waiting to the

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[SPEAKER_01]: the Owen Hurt Cup winner and Facing Tecla, presumably at all in at one week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The next one is the Steel Cage match, which was Darby Allen, Kenneth Gitticketshia, the conglomeration of Kyle Riley, Mark Briscoe, Orange Cassidy, and Rodderick Strong.

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[SPEAKER_01]: First is the Dawn Call of Family of Andradell Eduo, Jake Doyle, Ocada, Kevin Knight, and Calfletcher, and MJF.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Come on, Shiyi, we'll come closer to the next slide.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We do AEW Ruster's set on random.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It really was.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They called it the M.D.G.M.J.F.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Which is the dollar of N.D.F.

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[SPEAKER_01]: organization.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There were a lot of friction in that one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Droughty was getting the short end of the stick from M.D.F.

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[SPEAKER_01]: through this entire run up, which led to the end of the match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was supposed to be a sheet in the match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was supposed to be.

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[SPEAKER_01]: to Keshe and Rick and Shay in another match on the card, but she was not cleared and he hasn't been cleared since February, so it ended up to Keshe and then being in the match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The baby phase moves all came out with different backpacks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll get to the backpacks to the second.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The heels all came out in a shirt that had Dawn Callis and M.J.F.

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[SPEAKER_01]: looking studally.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then we're in a circuit or cage in which nobody can see.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then they proceed to just beat each other's son plus for about 30 minutes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my god.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The backpack gimmick, if that each one of the baby faces had a backpack that was representative of their particular style of wrestling, a Kyle Riley brought out in Nintendo and old school, a bit Nintendo and beat.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, a sense list.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What do you got?

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[SPEAKER_00]: What do you got?

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[SPEAKER_00]: What do you got?

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[SPEAKER_01]: What do you got?

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[SPEAKER_00]: anything new Japan adjacent in this match or can we just do we have to get the one to catch it up on each other for a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, we're good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was it was a punter match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was fun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It will now be a match going forward.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I believe that forbidden door with the gimmick called death door Steven.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it is something that is somewhat

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[SPEAKER_01]: New Japan ish in which there will be multiples on either side fighting in a cage for victory.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then finally, we had Willoth Braver says for Strickwin and what some people are calling one of the best matches of the year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was the Owen Hart Cup Foundation, 2026 final.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Willoth Braver's feet in towards Strickwin.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was a very, I want to use cinematic match where they were using moves from the paths.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They were wrestling each other and like trying to bring the arsenal of the history of what they had all throughout their career into this match

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[SPEAKER_01]: to win the match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The crux of it had the deathwriters coming out at the very end so that will could dig deep and not give into for because he'd never really beat for him on the bit stage.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And tonight he did.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He beat him with the Tiger Driver 91.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He has now the Owen Hart Cup Foundation winner and he is going to Wembley, presumably to face the champion.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But next week

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I threw it through in a stipulation that Kenny can never challenge again if he loses.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, like what you will from that Brad also mentions a Will's buckshot hidden blade was bonkers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, it was.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There were a lot of, there were a lot of stuff in this match, but there, the reality is that she's been really wanted to only go an hour and we're able to set an hour right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So this review went very, very long, but I had a good job recapping it for people from the live perspective.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The biggest, the biggest pop was definitely the Cage match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: People saying his,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, his song was in a gift pop, me, me Morrell, did not get the reaction that I expected.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's on mysticos.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The me Morrell and who did the crowd treat as a real star?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like who got a big star reaction there?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Can you make up for sure in John Mockley and the young book?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Interesting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There you go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So all right, that was forbidden to everybody.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we'll be keeping an eye on the guys as they come back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because one of the matches that was supposed to be a forbidden door will take place this weekend.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's talk back about New Japan Pro Wrestling.

57:39.521 --> 57:45.604
[SPEAKER_00]: Now today, they had a house show on site, Tama, that was just strictly previewed tag stuff, house show stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you look at the results, you'll see that each side and these multi-person tags had one guy that was the low guy on the totem pole was either the young lion or the young guy in the faction.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Someone was getting beat.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You can see who's going to be out there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And of course, most of the winners were guys that are going to be in the G1 or they have a big match coming up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So the week ahead, we do have a house show again on the fourth on Saturday and Yamagata at the big wing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's not going to be on NJPW World.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What is going to be on NJPW World July 6th and 7?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Our two shows from Corican Hall that have quite a bit going for them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, especially in the 6th,

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[SPEAKER_00]: So let's take a look at that show on the six that the first part of it is is preview tag stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But you're also getting two qualifiers for the G1 climax tournament, the final two.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to get the full field here.

58:37.843 --> 58:40.126
[SPEAKER_00]: Oscar versus U-Jero, Taka Hashie.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you throw Taka Hashi and Sonata and Renderita are all in the G1 at once, I'm quitting the show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm certainly not going to sit through all that, but I feel pretty confident that they're not going to mess with us on that and throw us that art, even New Japan wouldn't hopefully this is Oscar yet making his way through into the tournament.

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[SPEAKER_00]: After that, the match that is pretty intriguing, the idea that one of these guys will not be in the G1, L Fantasma, and Reokoiwa in the other one, and

59:14.807 --> 59:24.953
[SPEAKER_00]: Considering all that we've seen throughout the year and who we haven't seen for a lot of this year, I'm leaning toward a we were winning this and not having ELP in the tournament.

59:25.073 --> 59:26.413
[SPEAKER_00]: Or what do you where are you thinking, Jeremy?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm on the same page with you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just don't see a we were being out of the G1.

59:31.496 --> 59:32.757
[SPEAKER_01]: We talked about this last week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I felt like the D-Anthusus on ELP is very real.

59:38.380 --> 59:42.282
[SPEAKER_01]: And it was confirmed to be later on that it isn't that just,

59:44.388 --> 59:52.574
[SPEAKER_01]: different priorities between between the individuals and they're not the wrong, but it just, yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, the thing is, too, I just watched Fantasma, oh, something you about this for one on the air, Fantasma.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I understand that this isn't his path.

01:00:01.360 --> 01:00:03.080
[SPEAKER_00]: He's not jumping and going to CMLL.

01:00:03.100 --> 01:00:05.181
[SPEAKER_00]: That's not what I'm not trying to say that here on the air.

01:00:05.221 --> 01:00:10.023
[SPEAKER_00]: But I'm saying that if he wanted to, he would be a great luchely-brae ruta.

01:00:10.363 --> 01:00:11.024
[SPEAKER_00]: Fantastic.

01:00:11.124 --> 01:00:11.364
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:00:11.384 --> 01:00:13.665
[SPEAKER_00]: Great job all week.

01:00:13.705 --> 01:00:15.906
[SPEAKER_00]: Not just in Arena Mexico against Barbrao Carbonara.

01:00:15.926 --> 01:00:18.126
[SPEAKER_00]: That was a great match and he did a terrific job in it.

01:00:18.607 --> 01:00:24.169
[SPEAKER_00]: But Fantasmos got whatever that it is that ticks off Mexican fans like crazy.

01:00:24.929 --> 01:00:25.990
[SPEAKER_00]: Rocky Romero had it.

01:00:27.250 --> 01:00:28.531
[SPEAKER_00]: Art bar for Triple A.

01:00:28.551 --> 01:00:31.794
[SPEAKER_00]: If you remember Gringos Locos he and Eddie Guerrero just that hole.

01:00:33.360 --> 01:00:37.621
[SPEAKER_00]: thing where they could just look at the crowd and the crowd just wants to smack them.

01:00:38.461 --> 01:00:42.602
[SPEAKER_00]: There's just that kind of a proper heel chemistry that he has with the fans of Mexico.

01:00:42.662 --> 01:00:43.262
[SPEAKER_00]: It really works.

01:00:44.183 --> 01:00:46.223
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but I agree with you.

01:00:46.243 --> 01:00:48.884
[SPEAKER_00]: I just don't see them benching OEW over this.

01:00:49.124 --> 01:00:50.324
[SPEAKER_00]: I just don't see it.

01:00:50.764 --> 01:00:52.685
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm really excited to get the field done.

01:00:53.065 --> 01:00:57.066
[SPEAKER_01]: And then we got a couple of days to bracket out whatever we want to bracket.

01:00:57.106 --> 01:00:58.266
[SPEAKER_01]: And we do our preview.

01:01:03.367 --> 01:01:17.635
[SPEAKER_00]: and also the global title is the semi-main event and this is a shoulder umero game kid match that they originally intended to have it forbidden door visa issues kept kid from getting into the united states but he didn't have any such trouble with Japan so this match will take place at court and hall.

01:01:17.935 --> 01:01:30.822
[SPEAKER_00]: They could work out really in showed his favor in this way Jeremy is I think showed his winning and uh oh you know they might switch did they you never know they they love to cut him off at the knees but I think you

01:01:32.023 --> 01:01:36.325
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think Gabe Kid could go into this thing is that I wanted to think this is going on.

01:01:36.385 --> 01:01:41.887
[SPEAKER_00]: I think these two are going to go probably one and one against each other here, G1.

01:01:42.588 --> 01:01:46.149
[SPEAKER_00]: And then figured out in a title match later.

01:01:46.229 --> 01:01:54.313
[SPEAKER_00]: So I think whoever goes into the G1 as the global champion will lose to the other in the G1 block, just my theory, into the G1 tournament.

01:01:54.733 --> 01:01:58.335
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think I think Shota loses the title to him.

01:01:59.941 --> 01:02:04.805
[SPEAKER_01]: showed a beat to him in the G1 and then they rematch afterwards.

01:02:04.985 --> 01:02:09.288
[SPEAKER_01]: And you get, I don't know why they want to do this, but you don't have any heal.

01:02:09.789 --> 01:02:13.752
[SPEAKER_00]: It wouldn't be, it wouldn't be her or she time to hash if you didn't cut his baby faces off at the knees.

01:02:14.292 --> 01:02:19.696
[SPEAKER_01]: I know, I know, but yeah, I definitely have a sniff and a tiny little change.

01:02:19.756 --> 01:02:22.679
[SPEAKER_00]: Especially if you can make himself look good by standing next to show it all.

01:02:22.879 --> 01:02:23.719
[SPEAKER_00]: And protecting.

01:02:23.739 --> 01:02:27.222
[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, it's important for the president to look good, not so much

01:02:28.763 --> 01:02:31.485
[SPEAKER_00]: Next, we have the Junior Heavyweight Championship.

01:02:31.525 --> 01:02:34.106
[SPEAKER_00]: We have Yill and Francesco Akira.

01:02:34.126 --> 01:02:36.227
[SPEAKER_00]: That's the main event in Korka.

01:02:36.247 --> 01:02:46.973
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, last time they weren't Korka, they landed attendance-wise in the middle between what we had seen at Best of the Super Junior's, which seemed to invigorate the fan base a little bit.

01:02:46.993 --> 01:02:48.594
[SPEAKER_00]: They liked the best of Super Junior's.

01:02:48.894 --> 01:02:55.158
[SPEAKER_00]: And then that was coming off some pretty rough attendance as an April, but we also talked about on the show how April has historically,

01:02:55.878 --> 01:03:04.542
[SPEAKER_00]: for whatever reason, maybe it's just because gold before gold and week or whatever, April is a rough month for attendance in Tokyo, just as historically.

01:03:05.122 --> 01:03:18.748
[SPEAKER_00]: So those were bad attendance as they had really good attendance as a BOSJ, the last cork and haul show right in the middle there, time to find out a little bit, there'll be other shows, but time to find out if a yo's draw is a main event or these defending the title in the main event right there.

01:03:19.028 --> 01:03:22.269
[SPEAKER_00]: And then Brad is asking her the show's plan to have English commentary, yes, they are.

01:03:22.649 --> 01:03:27.271
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if Walker will be there, but Chris Charles and handles.

01:03:27.691 --> 01:03:36.094
[SPEAKER_00]: Corrick and Hall shows solo all the time, sometimes with somebody sits down with him, but Chris is in town and he has been handling those shows on his own lately.

01:03:36.134 --> 01:03:38.235
[SPEAKER_00]: So also Jeremy, this past week.

01:03:38.955 --> 01:03:40.156
[SPEAKER_00]: wanted to mention this real quick.

01:03:40.556 --> 01:03:46.598
[SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't really have to do with anything it's going on on camera at this point, but Bushy wrote officially out of the picture.

01:03:46.618 --> 01:03:57.863
[SPEAKER_00]: They transferred everything over to TV, SAHE and cyber agents as of what a couple days ago, just I think the 30th into the first, just when all that's became official.

01:03:57.923 --> 01:04:01.465
[SPEAKER_01]: So, no other big short coming approach between the company come out.

01:04:02.113 --> 01:04:08.417
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you, and looking forward to the future, and we call that stuff the last couple of days if you looked around.

01:04:08.878 --> 01:04:17.904
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so that you want to Francesco Akira, the main event there, hopefully that's a win for you and give the guy a chance to, you know, if he's a drug.

01:04:18.565 --> 01:04:19.325
[SPEAKER_01]: I really hope I'm wrong.

01:04:19.986 --> 01:04:21.867
[SPEAKER_01]: I hope that he has a drug and I hope that

01:04:23.133 --> 01:04:29.781
[SPEAKER_00]: I hope you prove that I hope somebody is yeah, and I'm not trying to be a smartass about this like I'm exactly with you, Jeremy, I'm rooting for the guy.

01:04:29.841 --> 01:04:36.910
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I want I have not seen any evidence of the case, but I have been told this is case and the chance to go for it.

01:04:37.524 --> 01:04:38.624
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's go.

01:04:38.644 --> 01:04:38.964
[SPEAKER_01]: Show me.

01:04:39.004 --> 01:04:39.244
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's see.

01:04:40.325 --> 01:04:44.986
[SPEAKER_00]: And ask about who told us that Yo does pretty well there as far as merch goes and stuff like that.

01:04:45.026 --> 01:04:47.646
[SPEAKER_00]: He said, Walker will be here in America until the G1 starts up.

01:04:47.906 --> 01:04:48.667
[SPEAKER_00]: That makes a lot of sense.

01:04:48.687 --> 01:04:52.688
[SPEAKER_00]: You do have Chris to handle a commentary for these core comes shows until.

01:04:53.108 --> 01:05:02.590
[SPEAKER_00]: And then of course, G1 is apparently live in both English and Japanese all the way through both Chicago and back in with no additional payment to watch the first day.

01:05:03.210 --> 01:05:16.901
[SPEAKER_00]: And there is, and there is a one week delay just because of jet lag and scheduling and all that stuff between the G1 show in Chicago and when it starts up with the full, you know, several times a week schedule, there's a good one in Japan.

01:05:28.148 --> 01:05:38.755
[SPEAKER_01]: I go, I fly out to Chicago right for the 11th to 10th to 12th and then my wife leave on the 18th the morning of the 18th and it's gone for like a week.

01:05:38.775 --> 01:05:44.579
[SPEAKER_01]: So the morning the G1 happened, I've got the place to myself for like a week where I could just

01:05:45.712 --> 01:05:53.337
[SPEAKER_01]: Chill out, watch the G1, if I want to get up like three, haven't turned on the light, and it's like, just have a life and watch in the middle of the night.

01:05:53.937 --> 01:05:54.578
[SPEAKER_01]: I can't go to work.

01:05:54.598 --> 01:05:55.338
[SPEAKER_01]: I got to watch a dog.

01:05:55.698 --> 01:05:58.000
[SPEAKER_01]: I bet you like taking a staycation for like a week.

01:05:58.340 --> 01:05:58.880
[SPEAKER_01]: It's gonna be great.

01:06:00.501 --> 01:06:06.265
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, so yeah, and I'm looking at the schedule here, very quickly for NJPW world.

01:06:07.352 --> 01:06:32.886
[SPEAKER_00]: Not very many house shows left in the first place between now and the G1, but, and there's one more match at Cork and Hall, we're going to talk about in just a moment, but yeah, we go Japanese and English commentary on the 11th of course in Chicago, Japanese English commentary, Cork and then, and then Saturday the 18th is when it really picks up, boy, then we're going to be doing several G1 shows each week until the end of the tournament.

01:06:32.926 --> 01:06:33.146
[SPEAKER_00]: So,

01:06:33.719 --> 01:06:35.260
[SPEAKER_00]: going to kick it into high gear again.

01:06:35.920 --> 01:06:50.070
[SPEAKER_00]: Now the other show is the seven day after that is tiger masks retirement show so far as of pressed time here as of show time only two matches have been announced for that show and it is the two retirement matches

01:06:51.010 --> 01:06:52.191
[SPEAKER_00]: he is doing two of them.

01:06:52.251 --> 01:06:56.293
[SPEAKER_00]: They are five minute limit matches with special opponents.

01:06:56.373 --> 01:07:02.497
[SPEAKER_00]: Now the first one is Tom Billington, the son of the original dynamite kid, Tommy Billington.

01:07:02.997 --> 01:07:04.939
[SPEAKER_00]: So it is Tom Billington, of course, that's

01:07:06.128 --> 01:07:09.712
[SPEAKER_00]: Tying into the Tiger Mass Legacy, not Yamazaki himself.

01:07:09.732 --> 01:07:20.643
[SPEAKER_00]: Of course, Yamazaki, the current Tiger Mass number four, he was trained by the original Tiger Mass, Satore Siamma, Satore Siamma, and Dynamite Kid was the defining rivalry of the first Tiger Mass.

01:07:20.663 --> 01:07:25.748
[SPEAKER_00]: He had a lot of great opponents, but Dynamite Kid was the guy with Satore Siamma.

01:07:26.168 --> 01:07:37.766
[SPEAKER_00]: And so they're bringing that full circle where the tiger mask is finishing up against a dynamite kid, his son Tom Billington and then the other one is against black tiger four.

01:07:38.849 --> 01:07:43.713
[SPEAKER_00]: which would indicate that we'll be Rocky Romero under the hood and Rocky on the end again.

01:07:43.733 --> 01:07:46.515
[SPEAKER_00]: And of course, Magnews is the current black tiger.

01:07:46.836 --> 01:07:52.020
[SPEAKER_00]: The formerly known as Magnews, he is now taken the black tiger named in CML.

01:07:52.080 --> 01:07:55.503
[SPEAKER_00]: However, it looks like this is gonna be black tiger for Rocky Romero.

01:07:56.163 --> 01:08:02.248
[SPEAKER_00]: And really one of Yamazaki tiger mass force, great rivals of his career.

01:08:02.268 --> 01:08:05.251
[SPEAKER_00]: So hit Satoros, rival of course,

01:08:07.112 --> 01:08:27.192
[SPEAKER_00]: uh... his son and then his own top rival really rocky remaro uh... as tiger masker black tiger four black tiger four and uh... the rest of the car to be filled in i'd imagine for k favorisence after the core can hold show on the set so that one once that card is done bill announced the card for the seventh

01:08:28.610 --> 01:08:34.014
[SPEAKER_01]: Bill can afford to that, kind of fun to see, you know, like, end of an era kind of thing.

01:08:34.454 --> 01:08:34.774
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:08:34.914 --> 01:08:40.318
[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, this we've been talking before and speculating, are they going to have another tiger mask and things?

01:08:40.358 --> 01:08:43.260
[SPEAKER_00]: And I first of all, I don't think there will be one for a good while.

01:08:44.252 --> 01:08:58.522
[SPEAKER_00]: If they do it again, some of the stuff they're doing, Jeremy, leads me to believe that at least as they stand right now, they're not planning on continuing the lineage and bringing in another tiger mask, they could always change their mind.

01:08:58.942 --> 01:09:10.550
[SPEAKER_00]: They could always change their mind in a year and a half, maybe when somebody comes back from excursion or after somebody, or two years when someone else finishes, you'd always change their mind if they want to continue to license the character.

01:09:13.501 --> 01:09:19.302
[SPEAKER_00]: Tiger mask for points a little bit more toward that this is kind of the end.

01:09:19.402 --> 01:09:23.543
[SPEAKER_00]: Especially these matches here, the one with dynamite kit, right?

01:09:23.743 --> 01:09:30.025
[SPEAKER_00]: One with Tom Billington bringing it all the way back to the original Tiger masks first rival and first match.

01:09:30.065 --> 01:09:33.906
[SPEAKER_00]: First match as Tiger mask was against the OG dynamite kit.

01:09:34.046 --> 01:09:40.367
[SPEAKER_00]: My first favorite wrestler by the way is the I had watched wrestling for a couple of years when I saw dynamite kit, I pointed at the

01:09:45.611 --> 01:09:50.016
[SPEAKER_00]: And turn as asking, do we see Tiger Mass losing any of these matches?

01:09:51.518 --> 01:09:52.339
[SPEAKER_00]: I hope not.

01:09:52.940 --> 01:09:57.946
[SPEAKER_00]: First of all, I think that with five minute time limits, it's very possible that no one wins or loses.

01:09:58.046 --> 01:09:59.268
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's time to withdraw to me.

01:10:00.157 --> 01:10:06.299
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's very possible, it's just, you know, I could see him winning, I get a tagger mask on the way out, or Blacks Tiger.

01:10:06.759 --> 01:10:10.640
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I could see, I could see, I could see Rocky laying down for him one more time.

01:10:10.680 --> 01:10:17.042
[SPEAKER_00]: There's we get hand raised, Billington, I could, you know, the five minute time limit tells me that they want to do at least one draw here.

01:10:17.262 --> 01:10:26.525
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but it's so yeah, I think he'll probably go out on top and it's going to be difficult to beat what they did for him and CMLL, where they made him look like an all-time god there.

01:10:26.565 --> 01:10:27.845
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that was really remarkable.

01:10:27.925 --> 01:10:29.486
[SPEAKER_01]: That was quite the presentation, right?

01:10:29.986 --> 01:10:30.526
[SPEAKER_00]: It was very cool.

01:10:30.746 --> 01:10:31.547
[SPEAKER_00]: It was very cool.

01:10:31.947 --> 01:10:34.348
[SPEAKER_00]: I thought, man, he had to be on cloud nine with for that.

01:10:34.668 --> 01:10:35.569
[SPEAKER_00]: They really did it up good.

01:10:36.329 --> 01:10:40.571
[SPEAKER_00]: And would you like to hear the end of my little biography of Tiger mask?

01:10:40.611 --> 01:10:41.852
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I would Steven.

01:10:42.632 --> 01:10:42.913
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

01:10:42.933 --> 01:10:44.053
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I'm going to do this here.

01:10:44.613 --> 01:10:51.257
[SPEAKER_00]: As we move toward his retirement match, I wanted to mention that in 2010, that's where we left off last time.

01:10:51.297 --> 01:10:57.020
[SPEAKER_00]: He had dropped his last junior heavyweight title reign, lost the title to Naomi Chimara foodie.

01:10:58.207 --> 01:11:02.448
[SPEAKER_00]: Then they began a story, Jeremy, that would have been really interesting, but it was cut off, unfortunately.

01:11:02.528 --> 01:11:24.256
[SPEAKER_00]: He had to rematch with Marfuji, lost it, and then attacked Marfuji afterward, and beat him up a little bit, and then he went straight into the BOS J that year, swearing to win it, he had his first match with La Sombra, now on Dr. A. L. E. L. And afterwards refused to shake his hand when it was offered.

01:11:28.515 --> 01:11:32.077
[SPEAKER_00]: And the idea was that he was tempted to go that way at least.

01:11:32.137 --> 01:11:38.021
[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, maybe he would have found himself and reminded himself and had a crisis of conscience.

01:11:38.041 --> 01:11:39.562
[SPEAKER_00]: All that, maybe he would have turned heel.

01:11:39.582 --> 01:11:40.242
[SPEAKER_00]: What a interesting.

01:11:40.783 --> 01:11:43.244
[SPEAKER_00]: Another little hint that he may have turned heel comes later on.

01:11:43.264 --> 01:11:43.824
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll get to that.

01:11:44.145 --> 01:11:45.746
[SPEAKER_00]: But he was injured.

01:11:46.086 --> 01:11:46.706
[SPEAKER_00]: He hurt his neck.

01:11:46.906 --> 01:11:49.748
[SPEAKER_00]: And he had to pull out of the rest of the tournament and miss the next couple of months.

01:11:50.729 --> 01:11:50.849
[SPEAKER_00]: And

01:11:51.649 --> 01:11:59.855
[SPEAKER_00]: We never got to find out because when he came back, he slipped back into his old spot there, mostly wrestling with and against Dution Lager and multi-person tags.

01:11:59.895 --> 01:12:02.357
[SPEAKER_00]: He faced guys like Yujuro Takahashi and Naito.

01:12:02.978 --> 01:12:14.907
[SPEAKER_00]: A lot when they were junior heavyweight tag team, a lot of Jado Ghetto, Diktogo, that group, and he teamed with a young lion named Kiosuke Mikami, who we now know is

01:12:20.231 --> 01:12:24.253
[SPEAKER_00]: These were those early in the card, multi-person matches, young lion matches.

01:12:24.273 --> 01:12:28.576
[SPEAKER_00]: He also wrestled no blow, Yoshi Hashie quite a bit.

01:12:28.636 --> 01:12:30.156
[SPEAKER_00]: Yoshi Hashie before his excursion.

01:12:31.817 --> 01:12:34.499
[SPEAKER_00]: So he's kind of settling into a role that we're familiar with here.

01:12:34.839 --> 01:12:40.222
[SPEAKER_00]: Early in the card, multi-tags, maybe a single smash against a young lion, where he goes over that type of thing.

01:12:41.280 --> 01:12:43.982
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, he did return at August of 2010 after resting up.

01:12:44.463 --> 01:12:52.610
[SPEAKER_00]: And later that month, he did go to the Ariaki Coliseum for Noah's 10th anniversary show, and he teamed with Koji Kanemoto.

01:12:53.270 --> 01:12:54.872
[SPEAKER_00]: He was Tiger Mass number three.

01:12:55.732 --> 01:12:58.735
[SPEAKER_00]: He was also the only Tiger Mass that really worked heel.

01:12:58.755 --> 01:13:00.957
[SPEAKER_00]: Because Kanemoto always had kind of a,

01:13:02.483 --> 01:13:05.287
[SPEAKER_00]: jerk attitude and the ring a little bit, a little bit of an edge to him.

01:13:05.968 --> 01:13:10.534
[SPEAKER_00]: And Tiger Mask three tangled with LIGAR and was definitely the heel in that feud.

01:13:10.674 --> 01:13:17.343
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, no one was going to be the, I LIGAR tried to turn heel for a while and it, you know, went about as well as Steve Austin's heel turn.

01:13:17.363 --> 01:13:19.826
[SPEAKER_00]: We're just nobody wanted to boo him, you know, that, uh,

01:13:20.567 --> 01:13:24.590
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not trying to compare Steve Austin and Jewish and Lager, obviously, completely different characters and rest of it.

01:13:24.890 --> 01:13:28.113
[SPEAKER_00]: The same sense that the fans are just like, but I'm not booing them.

01:13:28.133 --> 01:13:30.274
[SPEAKER_00]: No, you know, we like this guy.

01:13:30.775 --> 01:13:34.598
[SPEAKER_00]: But Tiger Mask, as County Motto is Tiger Mask, could do it.

01:13:34.618 --> 01:13:37.159
[SPEAKER_00]: So now they're teaming, like Tiger Mask 4 and Tiger Mask 3.

01:13:38.000 --> 01:13:42.002
[SPEAKER_00]: And it just start to wonder, was the original idea for these guys to be a heel duo here at the end.

01:13:42.102 --> 01:13:46.764
[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, they won the Junior Heavyweight titles for the GHC, they won the Noah Junior titles.

01:13:47.284 --> 01:13:53.827
[SPEAKER_00]: And ran into a few familiar names along the way, Jeremy, they beat Ricky Marvin and Taiji Ishimori for those titles.

01:13:54.647 --> 01:14:01.009
[SPEAKER_00]: And then defended him six days later, against Genba, Hirai Yenagani and Yoshinobu Kanamara.

01:14:01.510 --> 01:14:04.451
[SPEAKER_00]: So he's running into a lot of his current New Japan contemporaries.

01:14:05.463 --> 01:14:08.465
[SPEAKER_00]: I mentioned the county motor was this regular opponent partner at this point.

01:14:08.485 --> 01:14:11.148
[SPEAKER_00]: The opponents were still the guys from chaos.

01:14:11.188 --> 01:14:14.650
[SPEAKER_00]: They also defended those titles against Kenta and Sushi Aoki.

01:14:15.751 --> 01:14:19.895
[SPEAKER_00]: And he also was still baking these appearances in these special shows.

01:14:19.995 --> 01:14:23.297
[SPEAKER_00]: And he and to show you where he was as far as respect.

01:14:24.198 --> 01:14:28.622
[SPEAKER_00]: He was selected for a dream batch card where he wrestled shit skate knock amora.

01:14:29.755 --> 01:14:31.096
[SPEAKER_00]: No, that was a different Ariaki.

01:14:31.676 --> 01:14:33.557
[SPEAKER_00]: The main event was Tana Hashie vs.

01:14:33.597 --> 01:14:34.177
[SPEAKER_00]: Prince Debit.

01:14:34.477 --> 01:14:35.578
[SPEAKER_00]: That was the main event of that one.

01:14:35.598 --> 01:14:37.939
[SPEAKER_00]: I think a dream match type of show.

01:14:37.959 --> 01:14:39.480
[SPEAKER_00]: This is before the Bullock Club, you know.

01:14:40.220 --> 01:14:45.023
[SPEAKER_00]: And he also wrestled the first Tiger Mask at a special show and went over the first Tiger Mask.

01:14:45.783 --> 01:14:48.545
[SPEAKER_00]: And a special, not a new Japan event.

01:14:48.825 --> 01:14:51.666
[SPEAKER_00]: That was only one of the one-offs that Saiyama would promote.

01:14:51.706 --> 01:14:54.828
[SPEAKER_00]: But he put Yamazaki over himself in that match.

01:14:55.892 --> 01:15:07.619
[SPEAKER_00]: his feud with chaos continued into 2011, when he, this cracks me up, he faced tumohiro Ishii in a hair versus mask match at Corrican Hall as part of fantastic community of that year.

01:15:07.679 --> 01:15:13.943
[SPEAKER_00]: So we have him to thank for the ball, tumohiro Ishii, Ishii got us head shaved after losing the tiger mask.

01:15:13.963 --> 01:15:15.664
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's the danger of hair matches Jeremy.

01:15:15.684 --> 01:15:19.547
[SPEAKER_00]: If we learned anything from Kurt Angle and tumohiro Ishii is, don't lose a hair

01:15:24.297 --> 01:15:40.712
[SPEAKER_00]: uh... ishi uh... also put the black tiger mask back on and kept on feuding with tiger mask for but he lost that to tiger mask as well and a mass versus mass match of the eventually ishi just said the heck with us i'm not fighting the sky anymore it's not working out on me at all but you need a word of luck and

01:15:41.658 --> 01:15:47.862
[SPEAKER_00]: This was the start of him moving down the New Japan cards as a single in particular.

01:15:48.042 --> 01:15:51.464
[SPEAKER_00]: Tiger Mass did not hold the IWGP junior heavyweight title again.

01:15:52.005 --> 01:15:54.867
[SPEAKER_00]: The NWA title that he held for a while and made into something.

01:15:55.427 --> 01:15:58.949
[SPEAKER_00]: Had made its way back to the United States, he dropped that and it came back over home.

01:16:00.090 --> 01:16:05.714
[SPEAKER_00]: He never contended for the BOSJ again and through all those years he would finish middle the pack.

01:16:06.402 --> 01:16:07.584
[SPEAKER_00]: in his block.

01:16:07.604 --> 01:16:15.435
[SPEAKER_00]: So the days of him making the finals or winning the tournament were over with, this is when Cushita is coming up later on.

01:16:15.455 --> 01:16:20.162
[SPEAKER_00]: Of course, the Roman Taka Hashie would come back from excursion and take over the division.

01:16:20.463 --> 01:16:21.304
[SPEAKER_00]: And at this point,

01:16:22.204 --> 01:16:30.287
[SPEAKER_00]: He wasn't as quick, not as explosive, and guys like Rashida and Heromo were just a few steps ahead of him now.

01:16:30.427 --> 01:16:35.309
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, he was starting to get into that older mode, just not able to do quite well.

01:16:35.609 --> 01:16:36.629
[SPEAKER_00]: He could still wrestle well.

01:16:36.709 --> 01:16:38.570
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, that Tiger Master is still a good wrestle this point.

01:16:38.590 --> 01:16:41.651
[SPEAKER_00]: And he did hold the junior tag titles with Duchen Lager in 2012.

01:16:42.831 --> 01:16:44.691
[SPEAKER_00]: They defeated Takamichi Noko and Taichi.

01:16:44.952 --> 01:16:54.934
[SPEAKER_00]: Back when Taichi was a junior, and those were vacant titles because Davey Richards and Rocky Romero had vacated because they couldn't make it to don't talk of travel issues.

01:16:55.014 --> 01:17:00.295
[SPEAKER_00]: Similar, remember when John Moxley held the U.S. title and the weather thing happened, he couldn't get to the paper view.

01:17:00.695 --> 01:17:04.296
[SPEAKER_00]: And so at that point, they had to strip the title because he was advertised.

01:17:04.356 --> 01:17:05.156
[SPEAKER_00]: Same thing happened here.

01:17:05.596 --> 01:17:09.497
[SPEAKER_00]: So they used Liger and Tiger Mass to get the belts.

01:17:10.117 --> 01:17:15.138
[SPEAKER_00]: uh, over to Rocky Romero again, with Alex Coslov this time instead of Davy Ritchens.

01:17:15.158 --> 01:17:19.719
[SPEAKER_00]: That was, that was when they put over forever, who begins in that era.

01:17:20.159 --> 01:17:23.600
[SPEAKER_00]: He was still respected by other promotions and he wasn't done winning championships.

01:17:23.640 --> 01:17:29.241
[SPEAKER_00]: In fact, he held the GAC titles again with Liger, so the Noah titles, they won a tournament in 2013.

01:17:29.701 --> 01:17:37.403
[SPEAKER_00]: They ended up dropping them to Hirshinario Gawa, and a young punk named Zach Saber Jr. for that.

01:17:38.704 --> 01:17:40.244
[SPEAKER_00]: for the GHC Junior titles.

01:17:40.825 --> 01:17:56.914
[SPEAKER_00]: And of course, he mostly was a mid-card guy, the rest of the decade, but in 2021, if you remember, flying Tiger, Robbie Eagles and Tiger Mask defeated Desparado and Kanamaro for the titles before dropping them to Reeves Gate to Gucci and Master Water in February of 2022.

01:17:58.655 --> 01:18:02.776
[SPEAKER_00]: And he also held the All-Japan Junior title for a while in 2022.

01:18:02.816 --> 01:18:04.797
[SPEAKER_00]: So that gave him the triple crown.

01:18:04.857 --> 01:18:07.437
[SPEAKER_00]: So to speak of championships.

01:18:07.457 --> 01:18:09.058
[SPEAKER_00]: So you've now won the Junior Heavyweight title.

01:18:09.758 --> 01:18:14.019
[SPEAKER_00]: Junior Heavyweight titles, rather, tag team titles in GAC.

01:18:14.379 --> 01:18:16.520
[SPEAKER_00]: won this single title in All-Japan.

01:18:16.700 --> 01:18:18.200
[SPEAKER_00]: He won both of them, of course.

01:18:18.641 --> 01:18:26.023
[SPEAKER_00]: So now he's held Junior Heavyweight titles with all three of the traditionally big Japanese promotions All-Japan, New Japan and Noah.

01:18:28.483 --> 01:18:46.341
[SPEAKER_00]: At that point, after 2013 or so, he had really settled into that role, where he was mostly putting over stars or beating young lions about the only guys he would pin would be the guys that were learning the ropes and anybody else he would kind of do the job for.

01:18:47.182 --> 01:18:51.927
[SPEAKER_00]: The thing that I noticed, as I went through his career, Jeremy, over the years,

01:18:53.167 --> 01:19:07.184
[SPEAKER_00]: long long career, you know, that covers the entire 21st century up until 7th and 7th of July this year, and he started in the late 90s, very few gaps in that schedule, remarkably durable.

01:19:08.227 --> 01:19:17.833
[SPEAKER_00]: remarkably reliable, not booked on every single show of course, but year after year over a hundred matches, which, of course, you know, in the territory days, that's a light schedule.

01:19:17.893 --> 01:19:18.634
[SPEAKER_00]: I understand all that.

01:19:19.054 --> 01:19:26.039
[SPEAKER_00]: So what I'm just saying is he managed to avoid those out for months with surgery type of injuries.

01:19:26.199 --> 01:19:27.459
[SPEAKER_00]: And there's no question he was heard.

01:19:27.479 --> 01:19:34.984
[SPEAKER_00]: There's no question he was banged up a lot, but tiger mask managed to avoid going under the knife and being gone, say six months.

01:19:35.064 --> 01:19:36.986
[SPEAKER_00]: There just aren't those gaps in his

01:19:38.277 --> 01:19:39.458
[SPEAKER_00]: and his results.

01:19:39.598 --> 01:19:44.801
[SPEAKER_00]: He was just remarkably reliable, able to go.

01:19:45.342 --> 01:19:48.444
[SPEAKER_00]: He was able to wrestle with anybody, heavyweight, junior, heavyweight.

01:19:49.500 --> 01:19:51.161
[SPEAKER_00]: For a while, he's one of the best juniors in the world.

01:19:51.621 --> 01:20:09.370
[SPEAKER_00]: And I feel bad because we're about to go into another one of these biographies about Harry O'Sha-Tenzon who has had to hang it up just because the terrific nerve damage has added up to the point that he just isn't capable of wrestling anymore.

01:20:10.877 --> 01:20:27.069
[SPEAKER_00]: The people that got into New Japan with the researches, the Tata Hashi researches, Nakamura, Ben Ocada, you know, Shibata, all those guys that kind of brought New Japan back after those dark years with anokiyasum where the company was teetering and things.

01:20:28.049 --> 01:20:31.111
[SPEAKER_00]: They never got to see Tiger Mask or Tenzan at their peak.

01:20:31.832 --> 01:20:32.653
[SPEAKER_00]: They just saw,

01:20:33.682 --> 01:20:35.904
[SPEAKER_00]: the older guy who kind of declined over the years.

01:20:36.844 --> 01:20:43.189
[SPEAKER_00]: And Tiger Master Cline less than 10's on dead, 10's on just took more damage than Tiger Master managed to.

01:20:43.209 --> 01:20:48.633
[SPEAKER_00]: But again, just the guy that we have seen hundreds of Tiger Master masters, just since we've done this show.

01:20:49.233 --> 01:20:56.358
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's going to be, it hit me, what, looking at that is it's going to be a little bit strange not having him at the same time.

01:20:56.999 --> 01:20:58.360
[SPEAKER_00]: He hasn't really been in the mix for,

01:20:59.743 --> 01:21:07.045
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, a lot of years, you know, that 2021, that was when they were before they were doing full crowds and things flying tiger team.

01:21:07.085 --> 01:21:19.468
[SPEAKER_00]: So, in front of those large crowds, winning and losing titles and going in mass versus mass matching, mass versus tear matches, most of the current fanbase probably didn't see that.

01:21:19.548 --> 01:21:23.128
[SPEAKER_00]: But I encourage you to go back and see tiger mass in the 2000s.

01:21:23.909 --> 01:21:26.589
[SPEAKER_00]: You can find them, you can search for them on NJPW World.

01:21:29.750 --> 01:21:35.014
[SPEAKER_00]: recommended ribbon on NJPW World as he's moved closer to retirement.

01:21:35.674 --> 01:21:37.295
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, worth your time, worth your time.

01:21:37.315 --> 01:21:38.076
[SPEAKER_00]: The guy was talented.

01:21:38.296 --> 01:21:41.498
[SPEAKER_00]: And still his talent is just time is undefeated.

01:21:41.738 --> 01:21:42.939
[SPEAKER_00]: And so is age there.

01:21:42.979 --> 01:21:47.902
[SPEAKER_00]: So he was actually stepping away from the Tiger Mass gimmick on July 7th.

01:21:48.303 --> 01:21:50.704
[SPEAKER_00]: And that is the history of Tiger Mask.

01:21:58.488 --> 01:21:59.910
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, the go-go tiger thing.

01:22:00.090 --> 01:22:00.730
[SPEAKER_01]: Go-go tiger.

01:22:00.871 --> 01:22:03.173
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's a little better with it.

01:22:03.794 --> 01:22:05.415
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, go-go tiger.

01:22:05.555 --> 01:22:06.657
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, man.

01:22:07.357 --> 01:22:08.318
[SPEAKER_01]: It's kind of timeless.

01:22:08.398 --> 01:22:14.044
[SPEAKER_01]: And that, uh, Japanese action figure aesthetic that, Yeah.

01:22:14.225 --> 01:22:17.248
[SPEAKER_01]: The 70s, 80s, 90s that really just kind of,

01:22:17.713 --> 01:22:24.801
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, you hit the name, it was Tiger Mass was an anime and a manga before he was, before he would say I'm a was a wrestler.

01:22:24.881 --> 01:22:26.844
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm all about all of that.

01:22:26.924 --> 01:22:29.387
[SPEAKER_01]: I know.

01:22:31.009 --> 01:22:33.151
[SPEAKER_00]: I know that next time you're in Japan, there will be an next time.

01:22:33.171 --> 01:22:34.393
[SPEAKER_00]: You're going to go to Tuduo Khan.

01:22:36.675 --> 01:22:38.695
[SPEAKER_00]: And if I have to drag you myself, we'll get you there.

01:22:39.195 --> 01:22:41.356
[SPEAKER_00]: But how am I going to do that?

01:22:41.656 --> 01:22:42.516
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll be there in December.

01:22:42.556 --> 01:22:43.316
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll be there in December.

01:22:43.516 --> 01:22:46.137
[SPEAKER_00]: I know it's, it's, it's in a weird spot.

01:22:46.237 --> 01:22:46.637
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not.

01:22:46.717 --> 01:22:53.938
[SPEAKER_01]: There was an issue where I had two different locations telling me where it was, and I was like, I got you to take an attack.

01:22:54.938 --> 01:23:01.960
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, the thing is folks, it's, until you're in Tokyo, it's difficult to describe how, Tokyo is a lot.

01:23:02.740 --> 01:23:03.520
[SPEAKER_00]: Tokyo is a lot.

01:23:05.380 --> 01:23:20.577
[SPEAKER_00]: The whole thing is, when you go into Tuduo County, of course, it's this huge store full of, and this different from the Tocon shop, it's a New Japan gift shop, but this is Tuduo Con, which is all wrestling, it's it's having two stories of just wrestling memorabilia and

01:23:21.157 --> 01:23:28.801
[SPEAKER_00]: magazines, DVDs, and ring keys, but the music, the overhead music is all wrestling themes.

01:23:29.521 --> 01:23:37.085
[SPEAKER_00]: So sometimes, as you're walking around there, you'll hear like go-go tiger breakout or Duchenne Lager's theme, which also sounds like an anime theme, and the

01:23:37.845 --> 01:23:41.850
[SPEAKER_00]: The little glances and smiles of recognition among the other customers.

01:23:42.030 --> 01:23:49.940
[SPEAKER_00]: You're like, oh, yeah, Tiger, you know that everybody just kind of looks at each other, whether they're American Japanese or whatever, and just because it's, yeah, it's kind of fun song.

01:23:49.980 --> 01:23:51.943
[SPEAKER_00]: And then it kind of hits you.

01:23:52.363 --> 01:23:54.386
[SPEAKER_00]: It's in the, it's in heavy rotation at Tudorokan.

01:23:54.877 --> 01:24:01.602
[SPEAKER_01]: I, I laugh because I don't think I've ever seen Dave more disappointed to me when I told I didn't make it to O'Con after expand.

01:24:01.622 --> 01:24:09.728
[SPEAKER_01]: I think you like you didn't, and I was like, I just didn't happen that I had the same reaction when you told me that you didn't make it.

01:24:09.828 --> 01:24:16.773
[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, oh, so I, I carved out three hours to get over there in the morning one day and it just.

01:24:17.883 --> 01:24:18.844
[SPEAKER_01]: can I can find it?

01:24:19.305 --> 01:24:19.845
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll get to it.

01:24:20.246 --> 01:24:27.694
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I totally, but like if you're one of those like not for the lack of trying everybody not for the lack of trying I just failed.

01:24:28.910 --> 01:24:29.250
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

01:24:29.270 --> 01:24:30.090
[SPEAKER_00]: We'll get to there someday.

01:24:30.110 --> 01:24:30.670
[SPEAKER_00]: We'll get to there.

01:24:30.690 --> 01:24:31.271
[SPEAKER_01]: Some.

01:24:31.311 --> 01:24:34.451
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I got him more comments from the peanut gallery before the little one.

01:24:34.511 --> 01:24:40.473
[SPEAKER_00]: Turned mentioned he said yep, mentioning the whole idea of joining New Japan within the last 15 years or so.

01:24:40.513 --> 01:24:41.413
[SPEAKER_00]: And not seeing the true 10.

01:24:41.453 --> 01:24:45.714
[SPEAKER_00]: He said he's only seen tens on as a broken wrestler since I started in 2015.

01:24:45.814 --> 01:24:47.655
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think you're alone at all.

01:24:48.135 --> 01:24:52.736
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's one of the reasons I really wanted to do these by our if he's just the end of their careers approach because

01:24:53.296 --> 01:24:59.004
[SPEAKER_00]: both of them in their own ways were key figures during newsjapan's time in the early 2000s.

01:24:59.445 --> 01:25:04.612
[SPEAKER_00]: 10s on the late 90s, so this is making me feel older than most things make me feel and I feel old a lot.

01:25:05.133 --> 01:25:08.397
[SPEAKER_00]: But when I started to bring this around at the beginning of the show,

01:25:09.118 --> 01:25:15.660
[SPEAKER_00]: When I started the tape trading and going on Rick Sports Pro Wrestling, Tenson was the young guy in the group.

01:25:16.181 --> 01:25:20.142
[SPEAKER_00]: The Masahiro Chono's group, and he was almost the attack dog.

01:25:20.242 --> 01:25:30.386
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, Chono was kind of stoic and cool and anti-establishment, wearing the long leather jacket with the sunglasses and nothing rattled him.

01:25:30.746 --> 01:25:32.467
[SPEAKER_00]: And Tenson was the guy that would

01:25:33.427 --> 01:25:35.209
[SPEAKER_00]: run out from behind him and just start swinging.

01:25:35.289 --> 01:25:43.118
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, he was just the not the maniac of that group and a terrific wrestler though, and an absolute bull in the ring and big and strong and all this stuff.

01:25:43.138 --> 01:25:52.968
[SPEAKER_00]: So I and see that to see this happen to them over the years and to see his his build go away and his body go away to the point that he struggles to get up the ring steps now.

01:25:52.988 --> 01:25:55.151
[SPEAKER_00]: It just shows you what this business can do to you.

01:25:55.971 --> 01:26:23.392
[SPEAKER_00]: over the long haul so we need to respect these guys and I want to make sure that as we get closer to ten cents retirement We give in the same treatment so that you folks who did join in 2015 and we're so glad you have because you you got to see some of the best in New Japan's Offered a chance to understand why these guys are so revered by the New Japan fans because yeah If you see these guys broken down, so let's let's the big deal We'll explain why we'll explain why those Japanese fans look at tens on and and see

01:26:24.893 --> 01:26:40.486
[SPEAKER_00]: They see the guy that was main eventing the big shows, but that's who they still see, you know, and a lot of them when they see Tiger Mass, they still see the guy who was having those Bangor matches with County Modo and Liger and the rest of them.

01:26:40.506 --> 01:26:44.609
[SPEAKER_00]: And as about the USVA guy, he'll drag you over there as himself, Jeremy, if we have.

01:26:44.629 --> 01:26:46.431
[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to get Jeremy in a two-to-one concept.

01:26:46.871 --> 01:26:55.613
[SPEAKER_01]: shame me shame me pat don't shame you I said why no like everyone talk now I didn't make it out you kind of like, yeah, I know I feel terrible about it too.

01:26:56.033 --> 01:26:59.574
[SPEAKER_01]: Tokyo I will sleep over Tokyo is a lot.

01:27:00.234 --> 01:27:00.915
[SPEAKER_00]: It is a lot.

01:27:01.395 --> 01:27:04.696
[SPEAKER_00]: It is an intimidating place I mean, I won't make you think it is bigger.

01:27:05.096 --> 01:27:09.857
[SPEAKER_01]: The reality is the whole January 1 everything being closed Really throw monkey wrench into my plans

01:27:10.703 --> 01:27:11.424
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, also true.

01:27:11.484 --> 01:27:12.244
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, that's true.

01:27:12.284 --> 01:27:14.566
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, January 1st, not a whole lot's open.

01:27:14.586 --> 01:27:22.392
[SPEAKER_01]: Tanya kind of shaved off a day I plan for for that kind of thing and not to was a cultural misunderstanding on my part.

01:27:24.031 --> 01:27:27.454
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, and there's, there's a lot of that stuff that can be lost in translation.

01:27:27.494 --> 01:27:28.794
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that's why that movie set there.

01:27:29.115 --> 01:27:31.256
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so that movie set in Tokyo.

01:27:31.276 --> 01:27:32.037
[SPEAKER_00]: So there we go.

01:27:32.137 --> 01:27:35.479
[SPEAKER_01]: I wore the Aaron Wolf headband, the entire episode.

01:27:35.820 --> 01:27:40.323
[SPEAKER_01]: It was in fact silky, smoother than comfy, but it's coming off as soon as we have to go over.

01:27:40.748 --> 01:27:49.237
[SPEAKER_00]: proud fair enough, and so it's the solid jersey because it's a little, it's a little sweaty in here, but I'm so looking forward to seeing Egypt versus Australia tomorrow.

01:27:49.257 --> 01:27:52.120
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm hoping to be adopted by Australia and so we'll just drink the rest of the day.

01:27:52.140 --> 01:27:53.982
[SPEAKER_01]: I hope you have a great time with the game, man.

01:27:55.304 --> 01:28:02.351
[SPEAKER_00]: The bucket list then coming off for me, and this is, I've always wanted to attend a World Cup game, or at least I have since like 1994 when the U.S. hosted it in a

01:28:03.113 --> 01:28:05.275
[SPEAKER_00]: kind of got the soccer bug band, but yeah.

01:28:05.375 --> 01:28:11.140
[SPEAKER_01]: I've yet to speak to Hugo about his spirit to the USA game yesterday, but I imagine he had a great time.

01:28:12.181 --> 01:28:18.646
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's unfortunately we got to go without flow ball again against Belgium, but I believe in the boys, so I think we can win it.

01:28:19.567 --> 01:28:20.448
[SPEAKER_00]: Homefield helps.

01:28:20.988 --> 01:28:22.850
[SPEAKER_00]: Homefield helps in the world cup is certainly so.

01:28:23.711 --> 01:28:26.854
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, anyway, all right, so I want to thank everybody that's here has joined us live.

01:28:26.874 --> 01:28:29.616
[SPEAKER_00]: So when we come back next week, G1, preview time.

01:28:29.736 --> 01:28:34.419
[SPEAKER_00]: because we will look at these matches that we have coming up that will give us a full field.

01:28:34.839 --> 01:28:41.003
[SPEAKER_00]: We'll look at the first night in Chicago and we've got it be all G1 all the time, really.

01:28:41.023 --> 01:28:51.350
[SPEAKER_00]: We're gonna cover Tiger Master Tiremen as well, of course, but the G1 climax tournament is beginning and Brad is saying, now you need to get the spinning acrylic K-O-B stand.

01:28:53.492 --> 01:28:53.912
[SPEAKER_00]: That's so much.

01:28:54.903 --> 01:28:59.526
[SPEAKER_01]: I have an acrylic stand of Rochita and a Hoshita and I bought in Japan.

01:28:59.546 --> 01:29:00.687
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that looks cool.

01:29:00.707 --> 01:29:04.210
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's just a little thing that I got there.

01:29:04.270 --> 01:29:08.873
[SPEAKER_01]: But spinning acrylic, no, I'm sorry, no.

01:29:09.935 --> 01:29:26.233
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