WWE WrestleMania 42: Gunther vs Seth Rollins & Who Is Thekla Facing Next? | Takedown

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're back with take down Paul Fontaine and my self here and we're going to talk about Russell Mania of course.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We went over the majority of the card last week though.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There were new matches made over the weekend and last night on Raw.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're also going to talk a little bit about some AEW including.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we'll lead with this, because there's something that Paul was pretty interested in, which is the depth in the women's division as far as Tecla's, who's going to contend for Tecla's title.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we're going to go through all of the women and try and figure out where they're going.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Paul, why don't we lead off with that?

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[SPEAKER_00]: You created a list of all the women on the roster, and we're going to try and figure out who

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[SPEAKER_00]: at a place where, you know, they're a viable contender for paper view match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's just something Jeff and I kind of touched on a little bit on the dynamite show, but we didn't really get too far into it other than just coming to the quick conclusion that there might not be anybody, you know, unless, you know, somebody comes back and obviously, you know, I think Mercedes would would fill that nicely, but the problem is is I don't know if

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[SPEAKER_01]: You want to take the title off Tepler right now and I don't know if you want to beat Mercedes right away when she comes back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that that's the problem there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then when you look at the rest of the division, I mean, there's a lot of names, but I wouldn't say there's a ton of depth for various reasons as we'll get into.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So on your list.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You put folks, you know, you sent me a list of then you, you put some folks in highlighter, which I assume are folks that you think may be best suited.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What for?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they're the only names that you can't completely discount for the reasons, you know, and I put like quick reasons, you know, like beside the names of why, you know, they're not necessarily viable.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Although, I suppose, in the case of the people in tag teams, you could always break up the tag team, which, and that's, that's one of the interesting ones.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, which may be the only viable thing they can do, honestly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, you don't necessarily break up the tag team, but you could have them do double duty or whatever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then, you know, there's also Sky Blue and Julie Hart.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I wouldn't necessarily think either of those two.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You'd want to put in a paper view, a world title match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I think Jamie Hader, you could, and maybe Alex Windsor.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know about Alex Windsor.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think I don't know if the fans would accept that right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Jamie Hader, I think they would for sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so let's go through, well, it'll kind of be fun to get to listen to names.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll go through the ones a little bit more quickly who are kind of on the shelf or not in the mix, but so you mentioned Owl Swinser, her and Jamie Hater are, they look to be groomed for like whatever the next tag title shot is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think I mean, I think long term or, you know, short long term.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think I'm sure Tony has them in mind for a big tag team match at Wimbley, you know, whether that's defending the titles or challenging for them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I would think we have an a J who is just not on TV and is this contract related like what's up I believe so that's that's the rumor out there like I think I had heard that our contract was up in April which is depending on where you are might be today and are as certain as most people listening it's going to be today or everybody so yeah so she's she has not been seen since the

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[SPEAKER_01]: the, you know, I think it was November when rumors got out that her contract was coming up and she had interest in going to WWE was the word and when Tony thinks that somebody's going to WWE, he doesn't use him anymore.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's basically what happens.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, not that she would necessarily be a top top contender, but it is a name.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You also have Athena here who is still in ROH land.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, that's somebody they could bring up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you could do like a match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I imagine possibly even a feud.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if you do title versus title, or if you just be for a teclist title, or what you'd want to do, but that's a possibility.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Britt Baker also iced.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, seemingly every paper view she makes an appearance on social media.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, basically says and whenever Tony's out, not father, he insists that she's coming back and says he'd love to use her.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No one, it is interesting the things that people will hold Tony's feet to the wire about, the things that they will not hold his feet to the wire about, brick pickers, one of those things they will not hold his feet to the wire about.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Deanna Pradozo and Diamante both in ROH currently, neither of them really of that level.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Deanna is a pure

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[SPEAKER_00]: Emmys Sochara, kind of a part timer.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, Harley, who is now without her tag team partner, I don't think she has the goods in the ring necessarily to be a viable container, but definitely is interesting on television and very entertaining on television, great personality on television, but it's just that believability in taking the next step.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, though of the ones that you put the the highlighter on, she was one of them, um, like she worst of the ideas.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I mean, I think it's not going to be a main event, but it could be a match on the card.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, and I think it could be a paper view match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think the promos would be entertaining.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The one thing with her is I'm worried about now that she's not in this tag team with Willow Are we even gonna see her like that that's what I'm wondering.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So if all of a sudden she starts getting booked for squash matches like where that she's winning Okay, that's a cue that she's probably gonna be going for the title.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think mm-hmm.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, high in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's remember the two ladies that got a job because Nixon knew all that her name and her.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'll say decided that they didn't want to do a job.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So these two got jobs and they got signed and they got buried.

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[UNKNOWN]: Thank you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Julie Hart also in the tag like you said commiel is commiel even under a contract Yeah, she's still on their roster.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my gosh.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean like if they ever wanted to like they I mean God she would be like somebody that you could bring in and just have a kill people and I may allow vocal majority would be like What did she do back on TV?

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[SPEAKER_01]: They don't book people very well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, that's the problem

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, Chris that lender, which seems like is the easy plug-in play except she's already lost twice in a row.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So do we really want to see it again right now?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, Lele Gray hurt.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Lena Cross in the current tag team with Megan Bane.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, uh, Marina Schaffier, who had the match with Tony Storm at the last show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And she also wants to mean a pretty decisively

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that was kind of unfortunate.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought I thought it was unfortunate.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Kind of dub the double, the double kill for her.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Almost killed her gimmick.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I don't think it did.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like put out audience especially, but in traditional booking it would have like, I watched that and I was like, is she like taking time off like, you know, the way that went, but I don't think that's what happened.

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[SPEAKER_00]: uh... Megan bane uh... is uh... a really good one yeah but she's also in a tag so you would have to have her do double duty there yeah but i think it's i think it's a good one but i also think that i would only do that if she's winning yeah her in tecla i would be super intrigued by that and i think it'd be a hell of a match to it's two heels but i mean you know they probably proud to probably get behind Megan i think

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[SPEAKER_01]: uh... we mentioned Mercedes uh... me and sure kawa who got uh... she got this the win which i'd it's she's probably getting another opportunity at some point but uh... i'm not i'm not that did she not i think she just got beat last week though right yeah yeah so but yeah i mean i'd if i'd put money i think that's what's gonna be uh... you know i don't i don't really know how but

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[SPEAKER_00]: Nala Rose, we have no idea what's going on with Nala.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They'll still fund social media.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, she's a great monster.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like you can easily bring her in to do like a TV match with Tecla.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like any time you want.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Penelope Ford currently hurt from the, that mood, that moon salt to whatever she did.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, to the floor that people could not catch her because she was like a speeding bullet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, Persephone.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You had Persephone in the highlighter.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, well, she's she's on their roster and honestly, this is the one that intrigues you the most.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, she beat Mercedes for the CML title.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They showed highlights of it on a W television.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And she's a baby face and she's a good worker and she's a very good promo.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if you've ever seen her do promos, but she's done promos on collision and our wage.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And like she's from I believe she's American, but she's got, I think her parents are Mexican.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She speaks fluent Spanish, but she speaks perfect English with almost not even an accent.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So like I think that that's the one that intrigues me the most.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, although Fernando had something there and and I agree with what he just put his last comment.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And this is somebody they could bring in and the feud would be pretty damn good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think, um, are you talking about kill kill it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think she's a free agent.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so if killer Kelly's wanted to talk about time as Tony, um, and you wanted to bring in her to feed her with Tecla, like, she's a good worker and she's, she's like her characters insane.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So her and Tecla, like I don't want to think to be better as partners, but, um, they could probably have a pretty good few too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Next on the list, uh, is, uh, Kuyman, Queen, I'm not on my favorite, who is currently

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[SPEAKER_00]: Red Velvet is in our OH.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, she's the re-re-ho.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We haven't seen re-ho in a while.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I think she last wrestled wasn't Mercedes, I think.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Or maybe Tony.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, can't resist.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She had a title match and she gets in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She gets on TV like every six months and then she disappears.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Ruby Soho, who last read new, was having a child.

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[SPEAKER_00]: A child, I think, is almost ready to get into developmental now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I don't know what.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, Serena D, you know, what's going on with Serena D, I'm the last time I saw her was in our way, as far as I know, she's active, but like she's not, you know, she's not regular character on any TTV or anything.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I imagine she's probably working with the ladies backstage and stuff and, you know, helping them in the ring, but I haven't seen her hurt anything from her at all.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Other, you know, the last time I think she might have been on TV was when Britt said who cares.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, sky blue in the tag like we said, yeah, table, what's up with tape mellow?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Tag partners with, uh, and a J. Oh, so because of that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so I mean, if Anna leaves, then I imagine they would bring, I would assume they'd bring her back, but my guess would be she didn't have been ring up on her.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Or they put her another tag team.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and Tyavalk area.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I have no idea.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's not even on our way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I haven't seen her in a long time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Johnny's been on TV recently and not with her.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So Thunder Rosa, who has, we've seen her of late.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Tony Storm is out for an.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm pushing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I believe.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We don't know that she's injured.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We just know she's out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Willow has the TBS title.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and Yuka Sakazaki who we don't know what's going on there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, we forgot about I forgot to mention.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, which is the same as Reho kind of and then, you know, the last name there, I, yeah, I put job or but I mean, that's not really fair.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They just steal.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's somebody they could do something with.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I suppose.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I really, I really liked her in that match of the night.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like with she looked really good in St. Marina, and even against Wheeler, so if they, if they wanted to do something with her, they could, I don't, that would be a TV match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't think there's no way that be a paper view match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Fernando mentioned Billy Stark.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What's up with Billy Stark?

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's in our wait.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's not listed on their roster Which I found a lot because they got a lot of other ROG people like less and maybe I Maybe I just like just inadvertently skipped it or something but because it's weird that a lot of these other ones are Are on there, but not Billy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe I just missed it but Billy is you know, she's a minion just been a minion forever

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, you know, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you look at these rosters.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, Billy's not on the roster.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, you look at these, like, they got, you know, Jericho obviously still on their brody leaves on there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, you know, I don't know how accurate these are supposed to be.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Keith Lee is on their roster.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, like I don't know, but AWS website, so I'm taking the word for here's another question, though, which is if Chris Stattlander is not involved, what is Chris Stattlander do?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, maybe she goes for the TBS title.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I mean, go against her best friend.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, against again, yeah, I mean, or she finds a tag team partner and goes to the tag team titles, or she takes some time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe she goes to our wage and wins the our wage title from Athena, which frees her from that purgatory and gets her on to a W. Telling, you could do that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I wonder if that, I wonder if that could be Harley's hook is actually being the new tag team partner for Chris.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's not, I've seen that suggested and it's not the worst idea in the world.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think David had a goofy name, you know, like probably like cosmic wrath or something.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I, in fact, I'm sure that's it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I would that money that their tag didn't name his cosmic wrath.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't just cope without on my own.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, of the folks we talked about, I think the most interesting matches, if we're just looking at from a perspective of will this match be cool?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think Jamie Hader is up there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I also think Megan Bane is up there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think Hader can actually take the loss.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if I would beat Bane, so maybe Hader might be the one, but I don't want to see Mina again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Marina has lost a couple times of late.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I wouldn't mind seeing the Chris match again, but like you said, it's that's, how do you rebuild the interest for Chris?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Mercedes can't lose right now when she comes back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: unless it's she puts up one of these fake belts.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She's only got two left.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, well, what's the last one?

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[SPEAKER_00]: She could just leave.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think one of the oh in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and then the other one is the Winnipeg one, which I think she might be defending tonight.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, really.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Jody threat, I want to say, but I'm not positive of that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so everyone's expecting her on on Dynamite tomorrow, because we're in Winnipeg and, uh, and they're wrestling, they're wrestling at the Manor Toby Museum.

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[SPEAKER_01]: which is weird.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I I've been in the men to be using.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can't imagine seeing a wrestling card there But it is so yeah, I mean I and for me like I'd add per sepony that list I know you don't know her as well as I do I just don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean I saw her Gosh, I would have seen her in San Jose, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think so yeah She's like she gets she and Willow.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think we're in San Jose think like a bigger

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[SPEAKER_01]: Roxanne Perez, like, you know, taller, just more muscular, bigger, but similar style and similar, you know, promo, you know, kind of like character, you know, like I mean, the match with willow struggled because they were coming off of two hot matches, right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They kind of messed it up or it wasn't necessarily smooth and after you see speed ball and Kyle Fletcher right yeah hit everything perfectly you're like

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but I mean, I think that the problem with Persephone is just personality, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's just, well, no, I just not have it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just people don't know it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, so that, you know, that could be something that that they do is where they let her show some personality.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do some video packages, introduce her in a better way, but of those of those people in the list, I like Jamie Hader, I like Megan Bane.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're both in tag teams right now, which is unfortunate.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think I have a feeling where we're actually going to see that tag team match

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[SPEAKER_01]: Which will be great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, for that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That takes away two of the top possible contenders for teclas.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So what is this is where I probably mean I said the other day in the discord.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, you know Dakota Kai is good enough to be on this roster The fact that she's not on this roster probably has to do with the idea that Tony doesn't see her above the middle level Which is they have tons of women in this middle level so they would just add her to the middle level But out of the folks that we talked about

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[SPEAKER_00]: You could throw her in a match and a TV match with Tecla kind of like what you did with Chiampa.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And if you do it right to your fan base, they will see that wrestler as being better than you could do one of the 10-minute, you know, proving ground matches, whatever they call them and have her, you know, look, go the 10 minutes and then you could do a pay for your match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, another name that just freed up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's interesting is Danny Luna.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Who did that saw that I saw somebody shared that in our business.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and that is I mean, she is good and would be a great addition to the W roster and I think we have a pretty damn good match with Tecla too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, look out for her, I suppose.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Before we talk about these new Russell Mania matches, what is the deal with Kyle Fletcher's injury?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Have you heard anything?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Nothing other than, you know, what we, you know, that he finished the match, but by the end of the match, he was in pretty bad shape, but he made it to the back without assistance.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But he was in a walking boot backstage and there's been no updates since Saturday night.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So no word on what's going on with the TNT title.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And obviously, you know, the Don Cow's family, they already lost Josh Alexander to an injury just a couple weeks ago.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, and, and if I've just got like, you know, Wardle and Brian Cage, you know, it's hazardous to your health to be in that family.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then we hear that Brian Cage was coming back somewhat soon.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, really?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know I hadn't heard that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So if that's the case, something that's cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I saw something that they thought that he was going to be ready.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's been a long time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, I mean, I think I think he's been hard like a year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So didn't they add a new, what did they add?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Voldor?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, which, I mean, Voldor is cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I like Voldor.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, he, uh, he's, he, he's, he, he's probably do really well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, actually, why don't you give who, who would you put in that match with Tecla?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I, would you put for Stephanie?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Persephone or Danny Luna, if they sign her, I think it's got to be somebody fresh.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't like any of those names that we mentioned that are on the roster already.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The best one in my opinion is probably Harley, but it's probably the worst match, but it would be the one that the fans would probably get into and it's a good dynamic with her in Teflah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're both kind of crazy like in their characters, but one is good and one is evil.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, so going back to the Kyle Fletcher thing, if he misses any amount of time, which

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[SPEAKER_00]: I hope not, and I'm sure he's like, oh, man, I got to get back for this paper view, but if he does have to miss some time, I wonder who kind of gets his spot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It could be speed ball, depending on what they were going to do with speed ball, Kevin night could be Kevin night, the Kevin night just lost on television to buddy lost to a continent.

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[SPEAKER_01]: to that audience.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That probably means it's almost like a win.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, what is, do you know what it seems like they're doing with Fletcher for the show?

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I mean, I assumed I kind of felt like maybe they're going back to Bailey again, you know, I, but I hadn't, there was no real clear direction, um, you know, I, there's a bunch of people that have mentioned the team title or you know what, I know I took that back, I, I trump up was the one that it seemed like, you know, he's got a couple wins on TV, he's mentioned that he wants that title back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, if if they end up doing like, you know, if they if Kyle is out for any length of time, they have to strip the tire light, I would assume it ends up back on Trapa.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I do wonder why he turned heel at this point, but you know, I'm, you know, I guess maybe we'll find out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It seems like Fletcher's embroiled in this love triangle is kind of the main story line, which,

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[SPEAKER_00]: with Ocada.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he's these part of the trio's titles, too, isn't he?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hmm.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think you so, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what?

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no, it's mystical jet speed and yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, there you go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So like because

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[SPEAKER_00]: to Kesha to said, you know, me and you were together before Ocata, and then he saw Ocata, or was it the other way around?

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, it was, it was, it was to Kesha, and they, you know what, they were supposed to attack to match this week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because they remember on, they did a promo, a Proto Shita.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they were gonna do a tag team match and win a peg.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I assume that's off, because I haven't, it wasn't mentioned on collision.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, it was Ocata who said, yeah,

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, you and I were together before you and Takeshita and then when he went to Takeshita and Takeshita said, you know, what what he said.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So whatever it like I know some people and I think some people are little down on how long it's taken Takeshita to choose whatever's going to happen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's just.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, Tony's got so many things that he prioritizes and then some things kind of he just let simmer and and and and whatever you know maybe he thinks like the longer it takes to actually have something happened that the better but I do like.

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[SPEAKER_00]: A little bit of this goofiness with, you know, who's my best friend and who's not my best like I like a little bit of it because it's it's a little soap opera, you kind of stuff and I think people understand that really well from just the history of wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know some people may think it's like a little too cute or a little too goofy, but I kind of dig it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it gives them something to do develops personality.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm I'm fine with it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know who's you know who's not getting enough credit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: for their English super-improving is Ocata.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like Ocata's cutting like full promos in English these days.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he's not saying bitch, very much, which is cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like lit, it's like legitimate pro wrestling group.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now they're not long, he's not gonna go out there and Silo Laquie like John Moxley or something.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he's, you know, he's probably reading

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[SPEAKER_00]: some cue cards or something to help him, but I think his English is vastly improved and you get to give credit to somebody like that because he moves his whole life out here essentially and learns the language and he's getting paid very handsomely, he's very deserving, you know, he is not the wrestler that he once was, but he's still over, he's still a big part of that show, you know, it's funny.

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[SPEAKER_00]: if I kind of wonder, you know, kind of parallel guys sometimes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Would you rather be Omega or O'Cotta right now, or who do you think is being utilized better between the two guys?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Wow.

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[SPEAKER_01]: My, I think O'Cotta has been used very well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like he's been protected, he's been a champion.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, he's very rarely lost and when he lost, when he loses, it's a big deal and they can consistently remind us of it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Kenny has had stop and start pushes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's had people put him out that he's never got revenge on his character is kind of like, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, you know, like, and then everyone's going to get an interesting hit interesting week last week and trying to fire us up for the idea that he's going to win that title.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's was trying to fire himself up, you know what's funny is is if you listen to the dynamite show like I you know I always recap all the promos and I write down work for whatever and it's funny because I read the Kenny Omega promo on air and then Jeff's like.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, when I watched Kenny Omega do the promo, I thought it sucked and it said you actually brought out the words the way that Kenny should have.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he's like, you gave that promo better than Kenny Omega did.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's like he's not saying that I'm a better promo than Kenny Omega, but it just wasn't Kenny's best night.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's all that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I want, yeah, I wonder what was up with that because I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: you get the big win and you are now, you know, you have a certain amount of the the AEW fan base, who just wants to see you be the Canadian megavold.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's a group of fans who are just so adamant that this happens.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so you are really speaking to those fans right and you're going to be in this main event and mjf mjf did not have a great night himself.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think it was kind of an average yeah promo from mjf

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[SPEAKER_00]: But Kenny, I want to say Kenny spoke three times on that show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because he did a couple of backstage segments, and even the last time he even said, I'm writing me back again.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But you know what I think it might be, and you kind of danced around it, and probably didn't even realize it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I think what happens with Kenny is he puts so much thought in effort into his matches that I think all of his energy for that night was directed on the match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and having a great match and telling a story, knowing where it was going.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then so by the time he got to the promo, he was kind of like he had invested everything he had into the match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then he just didn't have anything left for the promo.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If that makes sense.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So the one promo was live in front of the crowd, the one with MJF, that was live.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Those other two were taped though.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like why wouldn't they just redo them?

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[SPEAKER_00]: At least where they taped or where they live backstage, I'm not sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe they were live pasted.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And sometimes I feel that way about AEW stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And why is that, why do we, why does it feel like it's the only take sometimes?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he's, and it's going to be the same thing this week because he's got a match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he's also got a big promo segment with MJF.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're doing a contract signing, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think, um, yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and then he's got the six men.

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[SPEAKER_01]: teaming up with Jack Perry who tried to kill in the last time they were here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm, yeah, yeah, I wonder if they even realize that when they

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know the people there probably who were there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, when there may be some people I don't come back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm actually very interested to see how many people are there because the first time they were there, it was, it wasn't sold out, but it was really full.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's, you know, it's a 15,000 seed building for hockey, and I think they had about 8,000 the first time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then the last time, the second time, which was the last time, two years ago, they were down to like 4,500.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I mean, I was looking like for tomorrow the last I heard they were they had just gotten over 3,000, but that was a couple of weeks ago.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, if they get to four, you know, that's a good crowd for you W, but it's going to, you know, the building's going to be a quarter full.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's going to be weird, and I wonder how closely the fans out of there follow it, because that's the other thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The last time that was there, the fans did not really seem to know any of the people other than the people that had been in WWE.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't, and they were mad because there was no Mercedes and no Will Osprey, which I mean, I've contradiction, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like Will Osprey's never been in WWE, but he's the guy that the show has been built around and for whatever reason he wasn't there that week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's actually, oh, what, by the way, dynamite show is delayed one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to be doing it Thursday night nine or eight Eastern five Pacific, um, and we're going to have a special guest.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I won't say who just in case they don't show up, but it'll be fun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, and I'm going to give them a couple of hours earlier and a day later correct.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so we'll be going head to head with collision, closing airing on Thursday this week, but I don't even know if people know that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They announced it on on Saturday on on collision.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that was the first that it apparently was a last minute decision because I think they don't want to go head to head with NXT or the final four.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hmm, so got it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, probably the final four.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't I don't know how much even the antics and exceed her.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It exceeds a little bit, but they've gone head to head with an ex steeper foreign and they've done fine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, probably the final four.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And there's probably you'll see this weekend too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's look at this Russell Mania card because they added some matches.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, did they?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Some of them are actually really strong matches.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Some of them were very easy to understand where the booking was going.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Some of them came out of nowhere.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll save that one in a first second.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But let's start with a Sami Zane and trick Williams.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So the show-long storyline on SmackDown was that Sami Zane,

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[SPEAKER_00]: was not over enough to be on WrestleMania just don't have a spot for he said said brother, you know, we have limited spots and right now you're not on the show, but you can force your way on to it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I forgot how he said it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So Sammy's ain't had no actually, no, no, he said you have no like he didn't give them the old.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sammy's the one that said, okay, I got to do something.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, yeah, it was he so he had an aha moment.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, just just from that and he's got to be with trick trick is excited because Nick told trick that he was going to be on WrestleMania.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He did he actually say what the match was going to be just said you're going to be on the right, you're just going to be on Russell man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I didn't jelly roller probably on WrestleMania, but don't Sammy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: trick had to call Lil Yaddy, yeah, his boy Lil Yaddy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: When Brian Alvarez was going over his SmackDown notes, he did not say Lil Yaddy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just assuming that he just didn't know Lil Yaddy was, so he just skipped over that, but I know Lil Yaddy is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I'm not like the biggest Lil Yati fan, but I know who that person is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: How do you not remember the the name Lil Yati?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So then Sammy punch trick and then he had this aha moment and so Carmillo Hayes had his open challenge and Sammy's one who answered the challenge trick is out there shenanigans and sue Sammy gets the victory poor Carmelo has been

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[SPEAKER_00]: holding this belt for weeks and weeks and weeks and having really strong matches and he loses a couple of weeks for WrestleMania.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So Sammy Zane is now facing trick Williams at WrestleMania for the US Championship.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I personally

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[SPEAKER_00]: didn't think that they needed the belt when I heard the match, but then when I saw the storyline of Love Obelus or Sammy needing to find a way on the show, then it made a little bit more sense to me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I hope something, I hope Carmelo get something out of this that is more than Friday night Russell Mania Smackdown, you know?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, for the actual mania show, I think maybe he won't, but I hope my assumption is trickle when the title and then maybe he'll feud with Carmelo Hayes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that, you know, that could be good for both those guys because it'll it'll step up tricks in ring and it'll it'll give Carmelo a high profile feud.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So Fernando wonders if they could even make it a triple triple.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that we could.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you could even make it a four way and put alien there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: you could do that as well and trick had some credible matches in NXT so I think he kind of

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to use this, but take it for the proverbial means, not the literal means.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like I made a man at a trick in NXT.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't what you mean.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He leveled him up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And got him away from kind of being a cartoon character and made him a wrestler.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Good match for both, though, good position for both.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they never this long story in their tellers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, they've been building that in some form since the day trick debuted.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think Sam is the first guy he interacted with.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I remember that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and then they also made in an unsanctioned match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Does this mean lights out or those two different things?

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, it's not lights out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't count on your record.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, it's it's basically just another name for a hardcore match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean for no DQ.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they don't turn the lights up, though.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, can I tell you what the booking of this program

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[SPEAKER_00]: What the match that they were building to it felt like, which I'm glad that they are not actually having this match because they haven't had a match like this probably since the early 90s, which is a scaffold match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, I was thinking they were going to do like a strip match like not not like stripping clothes, but a match on the strip.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's how it's hoping for you know, yeah, you mentioned that they would like block off portions of the strip and and you know, just do like strip strip T's matches all together different.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you know, that's how our Howard Finkel in a touch.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Those are the kind of matches that we used to do that you can't show on television anymore.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, yeah, so yeah, I mean, that's a fun match, you know, and it'll be, I'm sure it'll be great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, and it's high stakes and it's something they've been building, you know, in some form.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, originally, I think these guys were going to be part of the world title myths, and then they decided to just make that one a singles match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So they split these two off on their own, but Drew and Jacob have been feuding, I mean, all year, really, like, you know, it's calendar year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, yeah, I think they started.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was right after survivors series, I think.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you big big match for Jacob.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Drew is just kind of like the, you know, the guy who is over and he's a heal and you take him seriously and then.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You probably beat him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he's like last year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We didn't face a Damian priest at WrestleMania last year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Who did he face at WrestleMania?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it was Damian priest.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was like, you ruined my whole life because he had lost the timing, Damian cost in the title year before, I think.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If I remember, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, so that's, was that right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, was that right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, he drew me reminds me like Brett Hart right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, you know, that position that he's in where Brett was, you know, after he was the world champion, where he was like a top guy, but, you know, not necessarily the top guy, but he was there to put over the guys that were going to be the next top guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, and I'm so kind of a heal that is always right like everything he says is right, but the fans hate him anyways

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I really like Drew, I think he's maybe the most underappreciated guy on the entire roster because of what he does and how he is able to stay at the level that he is considering how up and down his character can be as far as where he is in the mix.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And there's a skill to that right there's a skill to staying over and keeping your spot, even if they don't see you as the tipi tipi top guy so I'm glad that he's still in the mix and he's getting these these positions, but I do wonder what they do with Jacob because they have.

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[SPEAKER_00]: been on this edge of where like I'm I don't know if they see Jacob as a top guy this this the result of this match would actually will actually tell us a little bit something of how they see j yeah is he a top guy is he potentially the top guy or is he just a guy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: he's got some edge to him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and I think to a portion of this fan base, which is also a portion of this fan base that they often neglect, I think he could be a giant crazy giant star.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's baby.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's a hell of a promo.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, and there's nobody like him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: like nobody, and I can't even, I struggle to think of anybody historically, even like him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Kind of reminds me of like early bad news, brown, or even Brad news Allen, if anybody ever saw that, but that kind of character.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, just a bad dude that you do not want to mess with like and they put him on the Netflix baseball game with the Giants of the Yankees.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So so Jay us so was out there to hurt him for the first pitch.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Actually, I don't think Jimmy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not sure if Jimmy was there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know Jay was there, but

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[SPEAKER_00]: J, so J basically cut a promo before the first pitch and then Dusty Baker and Bruce Boachy throughout the first pitch.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then later in the game, J and Jacob were sitting in the crowd.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And on Netflix, Netflix is social account.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They cut a promo, which was, which was really good, but it was on the social accounts.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I assume they're trying to...

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would be interested in if, how closely Jacob follows that stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but it's a good story, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's from.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's not technically from the Bay Area.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's from Sacramento.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, which is kind of, you know, within an hour, no, within two hours of us, but, you know, is the Sacramento has their own basketball team.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So they don't have any J. J definitely is a big I right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Jay was born in the Bay Area, but I think he and Jimmy have lived out in Florida for the majority of their time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know exactly what that time frame is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Roman, of course, Roman is a giant 49ers fan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I think he's probably similar because he went to school back in the East Coast like Pittsburgh area or something, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I love fat too, shirt to the F around and try us.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, those those pretty.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'd actually a little a little wordy, but yeah, I'd wear that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's nice.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, a Finn baller and Dominic Mysterio, which they've been building for a while, I almost it almost feels like they waited too long in a sense because I thought there was a peak.

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[SPEAKER_00]: of where the heat was maybe like three weeks ago and then they still, you know, they still had had time between then and now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's going to be good, but now feels a little overshadowed to me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, it's chairedably like the eighth biggest match on WrestleMania, you know, like, and you know, if it was on a regular

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that that's where it's maybe like it doesn't feel like a maniac match, even though it has had a lot of build, but it just, it kind of missed its peak.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you're right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like for Nando mentions the possibility of the return of the demon.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It could be very cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, distinct possibility that for sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Where are you with Dom right now?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm more into triple A dumb, you know, like he when he's in triple A, he's like the guy and he's like a major superstar and he sold out buildings with fans going nuts for him and then he goes to raw and he doesn't have the heat that he used to have I think and now it's more like, you know, they don't even really boo him like they used to it's I think they like him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they don't really have a reason to boo him so they just kind of like are indifferent and they really like Finn so it's a good guy to feud with if you want people to boo Dom, but yeah, I just I don't know like I don't and I don't think he's winning so that's part of it like you know nobody thinks Dom is beating Finn and if he does it's going to be a screw job and they'll just do a rematch and Finn will win the rematch.

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[SPEAKER_01]: which maybe actually happens.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Unless it's interesting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If the demons are then dogs fucked, part of my fridge.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would say, pre-live, when live came back, I thought that that act was going to be like one of the top acts on all of WWE.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Dom and live.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Dom and live.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, they were for maybe a month,

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[SPEAKER_00]: But she's not to say that she has cooled him down because I think she is kind of her own thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe some of it is that I don't really feel like the live and Stephanie story has taken off in a great way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But there's something to before live came back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I felt like Dom was much hotter than he is now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's I think part of it is that you leave it like you said she's involved with their own thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Dom isn't really a part of it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's not like, it's almost like they forget that they're a unit sometimes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then, you know, then all of a sudden Dom is there or they'll be in a backstage getting there like hanging out together and they're being all kissy face and everything.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But it's almost like, oh yeah, right, we forgot we have this storyline.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, Dom is like he's kind of stretched thin.

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[SPEAKER_01]: you know, like he's in the live thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's in the fin thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's feeding with Penta in AAA and if they can go, they just beat.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And there's still the thing with his dad kind of simmering, you know, that, you know, I feel like that's not quite over yet either.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, and then what's going on with the judgment day, like, is we haven't really seen the judgment day together, since they dump Finn, like there hasn't been a judgment day promo, really, with the whole group

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, they used to raw used to run around them and now I think it's because it's manious season and you know, everything's about punk and Roman and, you know, like a whole bunch of other people and whereas like when you're in May, okay, we need the judgment day now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's none of these people around and yeah, you know, I think, um, you know, I

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I'm fine with Penta being the intercontinental champion, like Penta is really good, but I do think that Dom losing that intercontinental championship is part of the cooling down of him for sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's probably because they didn't want You know, if Dom is going to lose, they didn't want Finn as the intercontinental champion for whatever reason.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Would be my guess.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Next match here is

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[SPEAKER_00]: Penta, the aforementioned Penta versus Javan versus Dragon Lee versus Jady versus Rusev and did they put Vekingo in this match?

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[SPEAKER_01]: They haven't, but so Vekingo and Dom are doing a match on April 11th and it's for or sorry, it's Vekingo and Penta are doing a match on April 11th and it's for the IC title.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I assume if it's possible Vekingo could win that and then he would be added to this match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and they actually said, I think the wording they used on raw was the field so far.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So there may be more added.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I don't know who you had.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But King goes a great guy to put in this mask for sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I mean, and there's, you know, dragging these already in it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, dragging these in it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Ray Phoenix in it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Ray Phoenix is nodding.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that's another guy they could add.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's, yep, they could definitely do that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Rusev being in it is because he's the big guy who can catch the little guys and then he could take some of that stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Other than that, I'm not exactly sure why he's on WrestleMania considering we just had a storyline of Sammy Zane, who's been

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[SPEAKER_00]: on every single SmackDown for the last 25 years.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It feels like he did not do enough to be on WrestleMania.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we had to go get it and Rousseff is just like a grace and wall are belongs on

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[SPEAKER_00]: Grayson Waller can we talk about Grayson Waller for a second sure you as you know I would constantly make fun of that guy because mostly because Lerocca really liked them and I just thought he was a little bit of a tryhard And so then it just became this thing where it was kind of fun for me to make fun of Grayson Waller And I would make fun of how like you know because he came in to WWE as like this influencer because he had been on the Australian version of survivor, I think

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, man, how can you be an influencer if you have less Twitter followers than Dave Meltzer?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, come on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But then, you know, obviously now he has more because he's been into it to be.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But now I feel like there's something with him because I mean, they've kind of broken him down completely to the core, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And like, he's at the lowest.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's a little bit higher than he was recently because he's on RAW, at least with the new day.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But now I kind of look at him and go,

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think they can do something with him now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But for whatever reason, he's in great friggin' shape.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he's cut his hell.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, yeah, I guess all that non wrestling gives you time to do that, but how do you undo?

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[SPEAKER_00]: the goofy stuff that they've done with them over the last several years.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe a new character for him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe a certain AAA, you know, like, I mean, or, you know, like, that would have been the thing, like, if you had done what you did with Ludwig Kaiser with him, like, you know, like, that could have been, that could have been awesome, you know, because then it completely removes the stink off of him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's in a mask.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not the same guy, you know, that's another one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like that match is so much bigger on Tripoli, totally, but I'm just saying like if you're talking about TV time and who deserves it, like that's what I'm saying like, you know, and as opposed to Rousseff who, um, he last wrestled on main event on February 2nd, my birthday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and beat Joaquin Wilde.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I like Rusev and I like Rusev more than a lot of the AEW fans who seemingly hate him because he did not want to be booked in a way that maybe would have been great for him or maybe would have been great for him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He was still taking less money to work more and do jobs

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[SPEAKER_00]: whatever the reason, whatever makes that dude happy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I actually do like him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just wish that they would use him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you know, it's kind of the same thing like he's like just not on TV enough to make a difference.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, but he's in this match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, and I, you know what, there's a possibility like maybe he gets

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[SPEAKER_01]: Somehow taking out of this match and they add somebody different because that was the one guy you know JD is another one like JD Macdonald like what does he have to do with this like well I'm actually a little worried about him because you remember the last time when he got hurt yeah and then he's going to be in this ladder match like edge and Christian are like.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, I don't know if I want to be in that kind of match again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And here we are, JD McDonald has been out for a long time after a insane injury.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And now we're just going to throw them in a ladder match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This match should be great though.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like Dragon Lee has been killing it in AAA.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So this will he'll get a chance to show out on on this match if they get, you know, any kind of time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they probably will because there's a lot of people in that match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Although the entrance is a part take longer than the match, but um, you know, if they get like 12 minutes, it'll probably be like one of the better matches on the show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then the match that we all sort of figured was coming.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, irresistible forces against Charlotte and Alexa against Bayley and Lyra against the Bella twins.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know that any four of those teams is really over right now with the crowd.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think the crowd goes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: you all are involved in this like really silly soap opera feud and I'm not sure how to react to any of this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they're into Charlotte, like when she's in the ring, like she's easily the most over those eight that you mentioned.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and Bailey, you know, like that WrestleMania crowd will be in the Bailey.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But this match is going to struggle, like this match will struggle.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure, and there's no way around it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the Bella's, I mean, I'm sure this is why they came back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They wanted to do a tag team match or WrestleMania.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The prog in a win, you know, and everyone's going to hate it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, but that's probably what they were told when they signed, you know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, I wouldn't put the titles on them, but I sure feel like they're winning.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Bailey possibly for a W. Oh, it'd be incredible, like she would be such an asset to that division.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we just, we went over their whole roster.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, they need somebody at that level.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Any one of these, you know, there's a dozen women in WWE right now that, you know, are at a level

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[SPEAKER_01]: That if they went over to A, W, they'd be at that same level and there's nobody right now at that level in A, W other than Mercedes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's active.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, but you have like E, O, Oscar Bailey Becky, you know, like all these names Charlotte, you know, if you move them over, they would be massive stars over there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and way bigger than the R&WWE on that level.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, they're obviously bigger overall stars because they're in WWE and it's a bigger company and everything.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But if you're putting them in the world of A, W and the world of WWE, any one of those names would be the biggest star in A, W aside from Mercedes and Tony.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, it would be great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I've said, I think one of my predictions for 2026 was by the end of the year, Mercedes and Bailey are going to be

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[SPEAKER_01]: either in the same company or will be headed to be in the same company whether that is a WWWI I don't know because I think Mercedes contract is up in early 27 so it's Tony's got to resign her but if he didn't like I think they're both gonna end up in the same company whether that's a WWWI I don't know but I think those two want to work together and I think the rest of the world needs them to work together.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, one of the more valuable pandemic acts was alien cities.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't remember a lot about that time frame in WWE, but I do remember them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, ding-dong, hello.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, exactly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, and then the match that came out of nowhere, Seth Rollins versus Gunther.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, on the fight game podcast last week, John Locke said something to the effect of,

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, we would if they did Gunther and Seth, what if as Seth was beating up Paul Hayman, Paul Hayman, snapped his fingers and he had another guy and that guy turned out to be Gunther.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now that is not the story, at least right now that they're telling, right now they're basically saying that Seth kind of let his guard down and Gunther for some reason just attacked.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would have been a better story.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, I think it and we could still get there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, I'm sure God there's going to be a promo on raw and you know explain his actions, but this match

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm sure it fills this way because it's exactly what happened is it feels rushed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it seems like they were waiting to see if brown breaker was going to be ready.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And John and I talked about this all on last week's show, too, which is if it's Seth and brown breaker and they actually get there, then it feels like everything that happened was kind of worth it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But if it was Seth and Logan Paul, I was going to be super disappointed at that being the plan B. I am much happier with Seth and Gunther as the plan B.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I do need some of the gaps to be filled in to who what when where and why.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now they only have a couple of weeks to do that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It does feel like

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[SPEAKER_00]: The guy who retired John Cena should have had a better path for WrestleMania though.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm sure that path was originally, I don't, I don't, originally is right word, but at some point it was going to be Ray Mysterio, and which is a down, which is the lead down to me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, and I love, yeah, I personally love Ray's.

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[SPEAKER_00]: When I favor us real time, I agree.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that would be a disappointment.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I agree, although it would continue probably the retirement story line, so you have that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, it would be, again, way down the card and is the guy that retired John Cena four months later, it's supposed to be on a midcard match on night one, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think so, I don't think that's a smart idea.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I do think you can spin, I mean, this really isn't much higher up the card than that, but the difference is that Seth is obviously Seth and Gunther are both, you know, main event guys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So even though the match itself isn't necessarily a main event, it's kind of like,

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[SPEAKER_01]: the raw version of Jacob Fattu and Drew, you know, in terms of the positioning of the guys and our power.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I do think that, and Kelen, I talked about this last night on the rap.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, you subbed for salty sky.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I did.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we kind of came to a conclusion that this is going to lead to

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[SPEAKER_01]: or Gunther is going to get mad at him in for some reason and it's going to it's going to spin off into Brock and Gunther at summer slime.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then that's where you can continue the storyline, the retirement storyline.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you can do it either way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you want Brock to retire as a baby face, Hamon has a history of dumping clients for the next big thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He dumped Brock.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're not that long ago.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Where he dumped Brock.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He dumped the big show for Brock.

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[SPEAKER_01]: back in the day.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, and they, you know, and he dumped Roman, you know, last year, right, or two years ago, and whenever it was last year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So he could, yeah, he could do that here, and then good there could be his next big thing, you know, and

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[SPEAKER_01]: I love that pairing like you know what I mean like and and then you can do he can retire Brock in Minneapolis at SummerSlam and then you know probably go on to be next year's Mania main event or okay you know it gets Cody probably.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you remember 19 I think it's 96 WCW may have been late 95 but there's a match

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I think, I think it's actually early in a six that Hogan and Savage are facing against, you know, like six dudes or whatever, and they have to go through the hour one hour hour, we're, we're Hogan wanted Pillman and Pillman said, no, I'm not doing that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right, right, yeah, Pillman said, you know, well, actually what he did was he planned his surgery.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, that he had, that he always had to have during that paper view time so that he couldn't do it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, do you think?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Triple H is like, all right, Ray.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You would not do a WrestleMania.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Ray was like, oh, my rib, sorry.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I can't do this retirement stipulation.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll put it off for, I'll be one of the last guys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I, that's a nice story.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't imagine Ray is the kind of guy that would do that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But if he did, I might have more respect for him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But don't you think if Ray was going to retire, he'd want to retire against his son?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, yes, absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And or you would have him reunite with his son in his last match, you know, like that sort of thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I mean, I've always thought, in the back of my head, the match is Ray against Dom, Hair versus Mask.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, and then, you know, either Ray Beach him and he, and then they hug and that's it, or, you know, he beat some takes a mask and then Dom gets a mask.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Someone had a very cool booking idea.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you wanted to go all the way with Dom.

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[SPEAKER_00]: is that you finally do the Ray and Gunther thing and Ray loses and has to retire.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then that's when Dom turns baby face to avenge his dad and then he beats Gunther.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, you could do that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, so you were up last night with Kila.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So the video, the stream is up on our YouTube channel.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You subbed for salty Scott.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I did.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the audio is on our network.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You can always find everything at fightgamemedia.com.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then you did this with me tonight.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then you're coming back with Jeff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: On Thursday night for live stream and a podcast so you've been a very busy dude like there was there was a couple of weeks where Kila was on like almost every show I think except for maybe speaking of strong stuff yeah she did don't need some for me one week yeah

01:00:14.032 --> 01:00:16.395
[SPEAKER_00]: And so now you've you've done that.

01:00:16.435 --> 01:00:17.897
[SPEAKER_00]: So thank you for doing that.

01:00:17.938 --> 01:00:18.919
[SPEAKER_00]: No problem or helping.

01:00:19.179 --> 01:00:21.903
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm doing a show on Friday, too, but not on this network.

01:00:22.985 --> 01:00:23.566
[SPEAKER_01]: What are you doing?

01:00:23.766 --> 01:00:32.198
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a it's I'm too for on David levels show where I'm doing a good Friday called the pick and mix where I pick 15 songs that I like and hopefully you'll like to.

01:00:33.520 --> 01:00:34.822
[SPEAKER_01]: Are you pre recording it?

01:00:34.902 --> 01:00:36.424
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'll probably pre record it.

01:00:36.464 --> 01:00:37.305
[SPEAKER_01]: There's the name.

01:00:37.859 --> 01:00:39.862
[SPEAKER_01]: And you can actually play the full song.

01:00:39.942 --> 01:00:40.903
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, David.

01:00:41.143 --> 01:00:46.310
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know exactly how it gets away with it, but it's this thing called Mix Cloud that's in the UK.

01:00:46.370 --> 01:00:48.432
[SPEAKER_01]: And you can listen to it in the States.

01:00:48.452 --> 01:00:50.155
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you just have to download this thing.

01:00:50.175 --> 01:00:51.376
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's yeah, it's fun.

01:00:51.656 --> 01:00:54.540
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I do like 60 seconds in between each song.

01:00:54.841 --> 01:00:56.843
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, just talk a little bit about it, but it's a lot of fun.

01:00:57.344 --> 01:00:59.587
[SPEAKER_01]: Do you do your like DJ voice?

01:00:59.647 --> 01:00:59.847
[SPEAKER_01]: Like DJ?

01:01:00.348 --> 01:01:01.028
[SPEAKER_00]: No, I don't.

01:01:01.068 --> 01:01:03.832
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, there was one week where I did it just for fun.

01:01:03.872 --> 01:01:05.134
[SPEAKER_01]: It was a Yacht Rock show.

01:01:05.674 --> 01:01:07.056
[SPEAKER_01]: And so I did it.

01:01:07.036 --> 01:01:12.362
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, we're here, you know, we're going to hear some seals and crafts now.

01:01:13.604 --> 01:01:23.375
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I did that, but no, this will be, yeah, it's like, uh, a plants like John Mellon camp and uh, John caffeine to be a brown band and yeah, a lot of good stuff.

01:01:23.395 --> 01:01:23.896
[SPEAKER_00]: Love a boy.

01:01:24.036 --> 01:01:34.528
[SPEAKER_00]: I always wanted, I always wanted to do a quiet storm show just like, oh yeah, voice slow the slow the rhythm down a little bit, do the deep voice, tell stories of

01:01:34.508 --> 01:01:38.252
[SPEAKER_01]: Like Jimmy Falman was love loss slow jam the news.

01:01:38.552 --> 01:01:44.679
[SPEAKER_01]: Remember that when he got Barack Obama on there That's awesome man.

01:01:45.540 --> 01:02:03.739
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm not actually reading it, but our senior hall came out with a memoir So I'm I'm listening to that on on audible and like you know I'm I'm doing my walk and this is how I listen to my stuff is you know I I walk about a mile to a mile and a half a day and

01:02:04.478 --> 01:02:14.691
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm listening to him and I actually have it at 1.5 speed just because you can still hear I don't do this on podcasts for some reason I do this on audiobooks.

01:02:15.397 --> 01:02:24.027
[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, I laughed like out loud, like three or four times as I was walking nice and I know do you do that.

01:02:24.808 --> 01:02:38.164
[SPEAKER_00]: He was on the Emmys and he had they had him introduce one of the awards for the Emmys and so he did this kind of like one minute one minute like kind of like monolarchy thing and he was like wait.

01:02:39.528 --> 01:02:44.034
[SPEAKER_00]: The woman from Ted Lasso, like she's cheering for me.

01:02:44.114 --> 01:02:45.396
[SPEAKER_00]: How does she even know who I am?

01:02:45.436 --> 01:02:47.740
[SPEAKER_00]: And and he's like a looks to the crowd.

01:02:47.780 --> 01:02:53.508
[SPEAKER_00]: Like what's what's McColle Colkan's brother, Karen, Karen.

01:02:53.528 --> 01:02:59.776
[SPEAKER_00]: He's like Karen Colkan, he's doing, you know, he's he's doing the fist and he's and he's woofing like how does he even know?

01:02:59.877 --> 01:03:02.380
[SPEAKER_00]: Like he's too young to even know who I was.

01:03:02.883 --> 01:03:05.806
[SPEAKER_01]: So he was, he was doing it on my honeymoon.

01:03:05.846 --> 01:03:21.679
[SPEAKER_01]: My wife and I were in line to see the Arsenio Hall show and we had to wait like eight o'clock in the morning and we were the next people that were going to get lit in and then Jasmine Guy and a bunch of her crew ends up in there and they took our spot.

01:03:23.121 --> 01:03:23.661
[SPEAKER_01]: We didn't get in.

01:03:23.741 --> 01:03:27.304
[SPEAKER_01]: We were literally, there was a group, we were five, a group of five.

01:03:27.324 --> 01:03:31.388
[SPEAKER_01]: We were the next ones that were going to go in and they walked right past.

01:03:31.368 --> 01:03:40.720
[SPEAKER_01]: So I didn't get I used to tape I used to tape every monologue that yeah, yeah, I watched it every I watched it live most of the time But if I didn't watch it live I take it

01:03:41.088 --> 01:03:44.613
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, what what what a time would time to be alive.

01:03:44.633 --> 01:03:48.219
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and then I moved to Laramon You know, I stopped.

01:03:48.399 --> 01:03:50.623
[SPEAKER_00]: I he was like kind of like my last late.

01:03:50.783 --> 01:03:52.465
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I want once he was done.

01:03:52.485 --> 01:04:01.459
[SPEAKER_01]: I was kind of done with Oh, no, no, I I was just I was right up through almost the pandemic with Fallen and then I I've watched it since about twenty seventeen

01:04:01.912 --> 01:04:26.822
[SPEAKER_00]: I remember trying to get into Conan when Conan went to TBS is like, what is this what is this Conan stuff and I was I lasted maybe like three or four shows and then George Lopez did one and I lasted like a couple of shows

01:04:26.802 --> 01:04:31.951
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, and then our senior came back at, yeah, just in like the 2010s, right?

01:04:33.213 --> 01:04:34.896
[SPEAKER_00]: So he was on the apprentice.

01:04:35.678 --> 01:04:40.767
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and his whole goal was to win the apprentice so that he could bring back his show.

01:04:41.568 --> 01:04:47.258
[SPEAKER_00]: And so he had to kiss Donald Trump's ass that whole season and he actually brings the show back.

01:04:48.250 --> 01:04:57.294
[SPEAKER_00]: And you know who was the person that he used as his street team, uh, person like person on the street talking to fans and stuff.

01:04:57.314 --> 01:04:58.176
[SPEAKER_00]: No.

01:04:58.257 --> 01:04:59.318
[SPEAKER_00]: first time I'd ever seen her.

01:04:59.839 --> 01:05:00.560
[SPEAKER_00]: Tiffany Haddish.

01:05:01.281 --> 01:05:01.882
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, wow.

01:05:01.902 --> 01:05:02.142
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:05:02.162 --> 01:05:02.363
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:05:02.383 --> 01:05:02.623
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:05:02.643 --> 01:05:05.327
[SPEAKER_01]: And she was on to Trump thing too, right?

01:05:05.387 --> 01:05:06.789
[SPEAKER_01]: This is a celebrity apprentice.

01:05:06.809 --> 01:05:07.830
[SPEAKER_01]: She may have been later.

01:05:07.890 --> 01:05:08.191
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:05:08.211 --> 01:05:08.411
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:05:08.691 --> 01:05:08.791
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:05:08.811 --> 01:05:09.372
[SPEAKER_01]: I think so.

01:05:10.313 --> 01:05:14.239
[SPEAKER_01]: The one that I really liked was a normal, no, no, no, Dennis Miller.

01:05:14.820 --> 01:05:15.601
[SPEAKER_01]: He used to have one.

01:05:16.602 --> 01:05:23.131
[SPEAKER_01]: It was more like a political kind of show, you know, it wasn't really like a standard typical talk show, but I liked that one.

01:05:23.171 --> 01:05:24.653
[SPEAKER_01]: It was on like CNBC or something.

01:05:26.033 --> 01:05:27.115
[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, trip down there.

01:05:27.135 --> 01:05:27.475
[SPEAKER_00]: Lane.

01:05:27.495 --> 01:05:27.896
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

01:05:29.759 --> 01:05:33.464
[SPEAKER_00]: So you and Jeff will be up a day later on Thursday.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:05:34.025 --> 01:05:36.269
[SPEAKER_00]: Instead of your normal Wednesday after dynamite.

01:05:36.289 --> 01:05:38.833
[SPEAKER_00]: So we'll get some tweets out and stuff to remind people.

01:05:39.774 --> 01:05:40.575
[SPEAKER_00]: And then yeah.

01:05:40.595 --> 01:05:43.921
[SPEAKER_00]: And then because the calm this is the calm before the storm.

01:05:43.941 --> 01:05:50.050
[SPEAKER_00]: Because we're going to have back to back weeks of dynasty and then two nights of WrestleMania.

01:05:50.317 --> 01:05:55.466
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, and a lot of other stuff mixed in there too that people are real fired up about.

01:05:55.506 --> 01:06:08.629
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, it's starting on when's they really, but I mean, if you really want to go like starting next weekend, like there's NXT and New Japan as a big show Will Ospreys back in New Japan next this weekend.

01:06:08.660 --> 01:06:10.162
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, that one scares me, man.

01:06:10.382 --> 01:06:10.802
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, me too.

01:06:11.523 --> 01:06:13.986
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I wonder how he's even going to get from Winnipeg to Japan.

01:06:14.146 --> 01:06:16.629
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, everyone's telling me it's easy, but I've looked at it.

01:06:16.709 --> 01:06:17.710
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not easy.

01:06:17.751 --> 01:06:19.132
[SPEAKER_01]: Unless he told me he's going to give him his jet.

01:06:19.833 --> 01:06:20.414
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, yeah.

01:06:20.694 --> 01:06:21.555
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah.

01:06:21.575 --> 01:06:21.995
[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah.

01:06:22.015 --> 01:06:22.756
[SPEAKER_01]: So it starts there.

01:06:22.856 --> 01:06:26.180
[SPEAKER_01]: Like April 4th right up until probably April 20th.

01:06:26.200 --> 01:06:27.141
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just going to be insane.

01:06:29.184 --> 01:06:29.544
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

01:06:29.644 --> 01:06:30.325
[SPEAKER_01]: That is it from here.

01:06:30.485 --> 01:06:34.650
[SPEAKER_00]: So for Paul, I'm double G. See you when we see you piece out.