NJPW Wrestling Dontaku Preview: STARDOM Success vs. New Japan Slump? | Speaking of Strong Style

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[SPEAKER_00]: It is golden weak in Japan again, and there is an absurd volume of shows taking place this weekend.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's following up and already newsworthy week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There were major events and announcements across the world of Japanese wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And in New Japan, there were three title matches on a runner show that had some seriously worrying attendance numbers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to look at that and look at some excellent action that we got to see as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was good and bad.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll also preview the two night done taco show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So with Jeremy Feinstein, I'm Stephen Conway,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Welcome everyone to Speaking of Strong Style.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We discussed the new issues and events surrounding New Japan Pro wrestling, we're contributors to the fight game media network.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Very, very busy week Jeremy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We had several new Japan shows to do and to watch title matches to cover and then as I mentioned in the intro,

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[SPEAKER_00]: a very busy newsworthy week around Japanese pro wrestling is a whole plenty going on in America.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This after a couple of weeks where we were wondering what we were going to talk about sometimes our problems are over.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Going into the week, I thought we had three shows to watch.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Then I realized it was four shows.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then you had an additional show that you chose to watch you're going to talk about the show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then the last minute I ended up having an additional show that I watched at the very end.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Vering levels of skill involved in the show that we will be talking about and work great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, uh,

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[SPEAKER_01]: pedigree if you will, but we got plenty to talk about today.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So whatever small talk you want to get to, we got so much talk about way different the last couple weeks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, very different.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, it was, it was an interesting week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It, for me, the biggest event of the week was all star Grand Queen to the, the big star of event from Yokohama.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I said on this show that I didn't think they could top last year as far as,

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[SPEAKER_00]: the crowd goes because they got an astounding 7,500 last year for the big Tam and Nakano Syakamatani loser must retire with no ceremony, essentially a pro wrestling death match because the idea was whoever lost would never be heard from again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's true.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Syakamatani won and we haven't heard from Tam since.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, she looms over it in the storyline that they used to build up to that show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But Jeremy

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[SPEAKER_00]: I talked to Scott Edwards, who's the best authority on Josie wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know in the world.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I put the over underline at 5,000 people for that thinking they can't top, I heard a damn answer than that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, that's what I'm saying.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Scott thought that was a decent line.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So then, you know, that that was a decent over underline.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They got eight.

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[SPEAKER_00]: 1000 at that show and the Yoke Hama arena they topped it and I'll tell you what we're going to talk about that show with a little bit because there were there were some interesting things that relate to new Japan in it in a couple of ways some Blight and some a little more subtle sure, but Jeremy let's talk about just the idea that this show to eight 1000 how hot is Start them for these big shows right now that is an amazing number so what is it if the

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is it just young women wrestling?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is the way it is like staying in Japan?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like they're, they're just, what part of the culture shift has become that stardom is the hottest promotion in the country?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's, I think, well, the story lines are good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They have a wildly charismatic and an excellent, a chant well they had an excellent champion, Syakamatani lost the main event there in Yokohama.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But she's the biggest star, Colin is with us.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He said to say, Akka Karara winning was a real shock, but a great one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think very many people thought Karara was winning that title at all.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But people were into Syakamatani's group,

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[SPEAKER_00]: and they're the heel group.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And sometimes they're compared to house torture because there is interference in their matches at times.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're much better workers than the house of torture is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Their matches are excellent.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And this show was a buildup to the rest of the roster striking back against them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So over the course of the year, hate had gathered the red belt, their world title, the white belt, which is their, you know, the soul title.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So to speak, the at times they've had the trio's title, they had the the goddesses, the tag team titles, when they went into that event, they had all those belts.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They had all the major gold and they lost all of them in this thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was a complete

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[SPEAKER_00]: a complete baby face strikes back situation.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And for some reason, it was very, very good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The matches were going to be excellent, but that story captivated people and people were ready to see it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so the build up of hate and making them into this unstoppable force.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then

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[SPEAKER_00]: carefully building the you know Hanan won the white belt she won their Cinderella tournament so that was the thing where she won the Cinderella tournament she gets the shot at the title she wants she was attacked by the white belt champion immediately after she's still in her Cinderella dress that they do for the ceremony and she gets paint all over she gets black spray paint in her face and all over her dress is gonna be attacked her.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She beats Konami, and that's her first major major title.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She saw the future title before and on that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, two line, me, I'm Asaki, and Asmi.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They chased after Ruaqa and Natsuko Torai, I know I'm throwing a lot of names here, but oh, two line is a challenging tag team that has been great for a long time, but hasn't won the B.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They won the big.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sayaka Korara, one of the final students of Tam Nakano, if Sayaka Matani is her greatest student, and eventually the monster that ended up killing her, that she helped to create, well, Korara was her final student.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So to speak, before she was killed, and Sayaka has

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[SPEAKER_00]: been after Kamatani ever since obsessed with her ever since.

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[SPEAKER_00]: In fact, Jeremy, the uh, Corrican Hall show, I attended last May last Golden Week, uh, right, was Siyaka Karara again, Siyaka Kamatani after Tam had been erased from existence and uh, that was Karara already obsessed with Kamatani.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So one year build to Karara coming back on Kamatani and winning and it just worked eight thousand

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[SPEAKER_01]: It sounds like a really great show and you and I have had this discussion before that they don't have a dedicated streaming service and you have to essentially watch it on a laptop if you want to watch it or, you know, like, stream it through extra mean, like Chromecast, that kind of thing and they don't have an app.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's prohibitive to watch it if you want to do watch it directly on your TV.

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[SPEAKER_01]: do you think that they are at a point now where they need to get really serious about like dedicated app given that they've invested in Walker Stewart, the attendance at an all-time high, isn't this a strike while the iron caught kind of scenario where you really need to be able to get as many eyeballs on the shows as possible?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would love for them to have an app for that wrestling universe as an app that doesn't work on Apple, damn it, but the wrestling universe as an app, of course, NJPW World as an app.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, start on World is not.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And neither is all Japan TV, the other one that I'm watching a lot lately.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it is frustrating a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I wish they would invest in that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it would be smart to and make it a little bit more accessible.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I would like to see them do that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because I would.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Steven, I just like, I need to be able to sit down at the television with the remote on and watch something.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The rest of my life, everything you can hassle.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can't own anything like everything I have knew, just a couple of extra steps that you know, like, for to do it the right way, like you have to do all the great extra steps.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I want to sit down and I want to watch a thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: One button, one click, I'm not bringing the laptop out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not fire up like ethernet cable or tie a tie into HDMI, if you're the right thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't, I don't want to do any of that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's my problem.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to connect that makes me lazy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, and I want to say hello to some people.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maria Gracielasias is here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm glad to see you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Jeremy Orris back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Jeremy, glad to see you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Not sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And of course, Collins here with us.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'll everybody joining us like.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you so much.

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[SPEAKER_00]: U.S. VA guy is there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's and he's saying an app is not a priority due to the cost.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they probably are a lot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: uh... they would they would have to have a major to be and we've got it right away yeah we did and yeah fair i mean fair enough that i'm sure they're not cheap i'm sure they aren't cheap to produce but uh... yeah and i want to have to go up to the answers i know thank you as to what what i wanted to point out about grand coin to not only the attendance but the presentation first of all

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[SPEAKER_00]: They up their production value Jeremy they had a drone flying around the Yokohama arena giving us a little a 360 degree drone shots of the major entrances.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was very cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They also had that one camera that makes everything look like a video game and they don't know budget for an app.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They got a guy to play a drone around, but I'll tell you what else happened here Jeremy that I think is very, very important.

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[SPEAKER_00]: At this show in front of their biggest audience ever.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They put over Sayaka Karara, who's young, only debuted within the last three years, okay?

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[SPEAKER_00]: That is now their red belt champion.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hanan's been around a lot longer.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She started very, very young, but she made one her first major championship over Konami, who's one of the older wrestlers on the roster really.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They put over new talent like Machi, Eto and Fuachan, Fuachan just debuted a dream quaintum in December.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll read debuted.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We've talked about how she had the matches and then the whole thing where she had the controversial, she was gone for a while.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She apologized, came back redemption story, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Makiita who just came over from TJPW very recently within the last few months beat Nat's a boy big match and a big name to defeat on a show for a child beats Sayori Anu a former white belt champion.

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[SPEAKER_00]: O2 line, Miwama Saki

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, as he's already made, right, but me, I'm a sake, who's kind of the junior member of that team, so to speak, sometimes thought of that way, had a star making performer.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She was amazing and got the victory.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then Hanako was almost murdered by Rina Yamashita and

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, she was a bloody mess.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This was a hardcore match that lived up to it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not something I like to see and start them all that much, but Susan Suzuki and Rainy and Rush just bloody up, Micah and Hanako.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hanako.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I would not have been out of place in a June cassai show, just covered in blood and fought through it and had a storm making performance.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Over and over again on this card, Jeremy, it was established people putting over or making young talent.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so there they are in front of their biggest crowd and they had the guts to say,

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's a boy's one of our biggest stars, Sycamatani's one of our biggest stars, you know, the Susan Suzuki group there, their big names, all this lost, lost, lost for newer people to the company, to go over.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And sitting there on commentary, is to Rochi Tana Hashie, our president, who, and I know that there are more people involved in this decision making than Tana Hashie, but he's the president and the butt stops with him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to talk about how poor New Japan's businesses become lately, and it's only going to steeper downhill.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I just watched this, Tana-Hashi sitting there only a few meters away from Taro Ocata who was doing a much better job than he is, and is showing so much more in the intestinal fortitude department, the guts department, putting over his young talent in front of a crowd that New Japan could not dream to draw right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and it's it was just so striking because I wonder if Tana Hashie was sitting there just going they shot they all shot a lost the the all shot lost it's a wire why aren't the old people winning it's just uh it was quite the contrast to see Tana Hashie sit there and watch the show and uh I just hope hope hope he talks that yeah and walk around commentary which was this show was six and a half hours journey

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[SPEAKER_00]: They left Walker all by himself out there for six and a half hours.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you think and he had a bottle underneath the table?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There were there were stretches where he was quiet for a while with video packages and coming back from it and he may have run to the bed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would hold that good for him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, but I wouldn't blame him if they did.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know how his voice held up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He was struggling by the end.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he's it's a struggle with Walker

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[SPEAKER_00]: He says a lot of words in English, but he doesn't necessarily know what they mean.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like he bungles a lot of phrases and he gets, you know, like there's always like one word in a phrase, it's not quite correct.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And all that, he was having a rough time by the end of this one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But after six and a half hours, who could blame the guy?

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[SPEAKER_00]: How about somebody out there with him for the love of God?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, have Zina who speaks English come out and help him out later on in the show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She's on like a second or third.

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[SPEAKER_00]: anything dude.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I wouldn't want to be out there by myself for six and a half hours.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he was, I mean, Walker Stewart would have come to an everything gives.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He'll just say, yes, if you want to do it, and he knows what I'm getting himself kind of like getting himself in for he.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The thing about the thing about Walker is that he's young and it's called institution a stronger than ours.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Get sent to the half hours.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not sitting there the whole time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I got to get up and go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's the part that I can do everything else.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If I need to just sit there for six and a half hours and call a show, I think I could do it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Not saying it'd be easy not saying I'd do a good job, but I could be there for the six

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, this was a little bit rough, but he also gets some tutoring for some people.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he gave a shout out to Scott Edwards because Scott helps him with the story lines, which is another weak point for Walker who doesn't quite get a lot of the psychology of wrestling at helps when Scott or Chris is there to walk into the world.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What's the call to the makers?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, he has a good voice.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, it's a, what he says that can be a problem sometimes, but again, six and a half hours long time to be out there, but yeah, it just struck me the youth movement and things and then we're just seeing the opposite here in in New Japan, but they just don't get behind anybody.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, uh, the other big news of the week was from.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Utami Hayashista lost her challenge to Miko Anu for the red belt there, and then got on the microphone, and now she is leaving Marigold.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So Utami Hayashista, another major major name that is leaving Marigold, Marigold's business is fine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's about it's been about even with what it's been doing year over year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it seems like every year, somebody leaves and we knew Julie was going to leave when she went with Rossi to start Mari Gold.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But from the very beginning, we knew that she was heading to WWE.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was just going to help out for a while.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We knew that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Where they picked up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Where they picked up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There have been rumors about everything right now, freelancing seems to be the consensus, because it's worked out for Mirai so far.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Mirai is another wrestler who's left both start a man, Marty Golden, gone on her own.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Certainly working for Suri.

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[SPEAKER_00]: uh... sub-series doing great uh... free-lancing and it might be that she feels uh... she can have a little bit more freedom and take the show she wants and maybe just as importantly not do this shows she doesn't want to do uh... you know maybe you don't have to go on the road as much and she just feels she can do it there been rumors about the w e and coming to america we don't we don't know but uh... ross you were saying before i interrupt to go ahead

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, you're just saying that Rossi mentioned earlier that, yeah, I think he said that in January, she initially came to him about perhaps leaving, and this is not when they made the announcement.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, and Colin mentioned, and Victoria, Yuzuki, as an ACL injury that's going to keep her out for months at a time, unfortunately.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So Mario goes lost in star power on top, but they've picked

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[SPEAKER_00]: uh, bring some people up, but over the history of women's wrestling in Japan, Joe, she wrestling, they've been less frightened of new talent than men's wrestling has.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like the, the, the utami was the super rookie.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She won a lot of things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: A lot of titles and a lot of tournaments and things hurt rookie year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They pushed her right to the top immediately, didn't help the sheet already been on, or didn't hurt that she had already been on national television as a child, because her father was big daddy and their family was a subject of a

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, still, there are other people that they brought.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I said, the Karara, not three years into our career.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She's the Red Belt Champion, winning the main event of the biggest show of the year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Contrast that three years into your career with New Japan and your off on excursion someplace.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then you still have a couple more years before they push you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Or you can just be like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Boy, more showed an OEA and be back in B30 before you ever get pushed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you ever get pushed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's a nice contrast and what we have seen this week indicates that maybe it's time to look at the start and system a little bit more and start pushing younger people, which we've been saying until we're blue in the face.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't think people are listening to us much over there in the New Japan office, unfortunately.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But of the two companies and Bushy Road, I know which one's out of right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, there are a lot of issues with New Japan, but it is good to see that there is a formula and it is not that wrestling is cold.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, wrestling is not cold.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It depends.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right, right, this kind of, this kind of shows that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So like, if you're going to point, like, no, well, wrestling is cold in Japan.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, well, you know, start of doing just fine and it seems like what they're doing with wrestling with people.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now is that the talent is it because of like, the Yoshi aspect of it is that like more like connecting resonating with the Japanese population, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: by there is something to the fact that it's working for them and it does not seem to be working for each bed right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Ribshot is here with us.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He says the average retirement agent Japan and New Japan is around 100 so they don't want to push them to yeah It feels like I don't know what there is a retirement age.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the retirement age New Japan about a hundred feels right sometimes But We also the All Japan champion carnival tournament is rolling along their their version of the G1 Their their biggest singles tournament of the year In some ways the G1 is New Japan's version of the champion carnival

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[SPEAKER_00]: but they all started around the same time these tournaments and unfortunately they've lost June Saito who's one of the biggest stars in the company.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He was the triple crown champion when I saw them at Golden Week last year in Tokyo and he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Jeremy, he, he, he, had his eye socket fractured in the first tournament match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I saw it happened.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The guy landed right on the poor guy's head.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Fred ended up fracturing his orbital bone.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He is out for the tournament.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's going to have to fork it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's similar to, do you remember when night's overheard was knee and had to go all in nine and the G1.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And of course, no us speaking of Naito.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He is main of any for no of this weekend against Osawa, finally the singles match between those two.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's main of anything over.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, that's that's up for debate isn't it they were even talking about having the infamous vote.

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[SPEAKER_00]: uh... that i i think nighto might actually win this one but nighto and ozawa and then shane haste challenging uh... in a morrow for the gac title and a title match that has kind of landed with a bit of a thud i tell you that nighto versus ozawa is the match that is probably drawing the crowd so steven the chicto way up for me sounds like no one was a little hasty oh my god

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think, I don't think that landed the way they were hoping would with either of my joke.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I was there for it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what's going on around wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And of course, I mentioned that it is Golden Week and just to go over what Golden Week is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a set of four holidays within a week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's already begun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The first one was 29th.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That is the show a day.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that was the one that is to reflect upon the show a era, which included.

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[SPEAKER_00]: World War II and the reconstruction of Japan after World War II and it's considered kind of a solemn day of a reflection on the Shoah era.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was April 29th.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We have constitutional memorial day, which is May 3rd.

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[SPEAKER_00]: First day of Don Taku, that is to commemorate the establishment of the current.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Japanese constitution and we have a greenery day on May 4th that is similar to an earth day a day to commune with nature there Jeremy and then children's day is May 5th I was in Japan for children's day and it's a national holiday

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[SPEAKER_00]: day to take it and I mean, Tokyo don't city very busy for children's day because they have that amusement park and set up out there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so that was a busy day around the dome, but children's day they do celebrate with your kids be out with your be out with the family.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All that's taking place at 4th and 5th.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So,

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[SPEAKER_00]: an incredible number of wrestling shows going on this weekend.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Needless to say with everybody off, everybody is running.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So if you look at that, who wrote a calendar online, and just see 30 shows on Sunday, 29 shows on Monday, and things to say, so as this week goes on, but Golden Week has a deep begun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And every year, Don Tacos on Golden Week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we will be previewing that in a bit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But that's what's going on in Japan, busy week coming up to follow up a very newsworthy week in the past.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It felt like there was 12 hours in need of the end of watch.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like it's more like nine, but the shows were a little tough to get through.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, and so we're, I guess we should begin with Red Zone and Hiroshima on the 25th.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's where the week began and there was the first show after we left off.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And this was the first real troubling sign because they drew 253 to this thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They drew 3,018 last year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So a 30% drop, 30 plus percent drop,

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[SPEAKER_00]: for the Red Zone Hiroshima show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And frankly, I don't know if it's the specifically the Calum Numen title change, but crowds of falling off a cliff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Already we were seeing decreases of 10 to 15% fairly regularly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then first off, first off, first off, we're just going to get the elephant out of the room.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, night on a hot year gone, that's going to take into account that people are like, that's a deficit that you need to take into account, this is a good addition to that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I just, when people are listening, yes, we are taking that part into account that the star from the past are gone, continue.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sorry.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That part was important for me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and, but

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's been steady until this past week or so at 10 to 15 percent down from last year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: 10 to 15 percent this week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Three of the shows that run in JPW world were down 32 to 35 percent off from last year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Jeremy or is asking why is it so bad?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And well, if you watch these shows beginning to end, you can see it that there is not a lot of effort from the wrestlers in the undercard there is a lot of sleep walking a lot of moping

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's just not very exciting right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, what are the storylines in New Japan at the moment other than there are guys with belts and there are people challenging for those belts, which is fine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we saw some really good title matches this week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, two of them anyway.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Two of them were very, very good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: One was terrible, but that's when we're getting it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It had things working against it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There isn't really a big personal issue feud going on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's just not a lot of heat anywhere.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The crowds that are there are very quiet because there's just not a lot to react to.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a little bit of laziness to set in certainly on the undercard and to play.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I see.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and I went back and looked because I just thought, am I seeing the past with rose colored glasses here, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I went back to a

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[SPEAKER_00]: a show about the same time a year, not exactly, from just before the pandemic, 2018, 2019.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And no, they were trying harder.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They were working harder.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The matches had more energy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They were more interesting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They were more exciting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Up and down the card.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it made events or made events, but watch this stuff before.

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[SPEAKER_00]: those start watch those those six man tags early in the show they had more energy to them and right now we're just seeing guys kind of sleep walk through everything and then because they're in front of small quiet crowds it's almost sucks the energy out of the ring as well and then they kind of sleep walk through a performance and then fewer people show up the next time this it's just

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[SPEAKER_00]: The crowds quiet, the wrestling's boring because they're not getting anything out of the crowd, and which gives nothing to the crowd.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So the crowds are smaller, and it's, so which makes the guys even more depressed, and it just seems to be snowball, snowballing around.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That, and there aren't many storylines going it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Aaron Wolfe should be really, really angry with House of Torture, and you don't really,

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[SPEAKER_00]: get that out of him he's he's doing all right, but it's not it's not like he's pissed no one's angry at anybody you know it's just a bunch of people their guys and belts and there are people challenging for belts but other than that what's what's kind of the storyline going here I mean the thing for me was that I was just super frustrated because

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[SPEAKER_01]: The deal is if you got Yoda Suji and he was the guy and now he doesn't feel like the guy and I was watching the show on the 29th and

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm watching them out there with unbound company, and they're also disconnected.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They don't feel like they have any synergy with each other whatsoever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The United Empire looked like the bullies and then they stayed asylum.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Where you got a clown, you got a guy in a weird bath, you got the man with the tattoos, and they're all just walking around, because if they're like the best guys in the world, and maybe they're gonna argument that they are, but... Yeah, they look like the villains from my hero academia.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just, they look like they're aimed at teenage kids.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, you're right, you're right, you're right, you're right, you're right, you're right, you're right, you're right, you're right, you're right, you're right, you're right, you're right, you're right, you're right, you're right, you're right, you're right, you're right, you're right, you're right, you're right, you're right, you're right, you're right, you're right, you're right, you're right, you're right, you're right, you're right, you're right, you're right, you're right, you're right, you're right, you're right, you're right, you're right, you're right, you're right, you're right, you're right, you're right, you're right, you're right, you're right, you're right, you're right, you're right, you're right, you're right, you're right, you're right, you're right,

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[SPEAKER_01]: What do we got going on?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, like the big, the big match if they're just, they're ready for us.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, the main events are good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And USDA guys is when looking at the numbers that I'm pretty too, I don't see a massive to turn down turn in business for New Japan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, you all this week because

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[SPEAKER_00]: 35% down is going to matter because they're not those that's 35% that aren't buying any merchandise the little loan just being in the arena itself.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I mean, that's, here's the thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: match quality is subjective.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Whether you like a wrestler or not, that's subjective.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Whether you enjoy a storyline or not, that's subjective.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What is objective is that 3,000 people paid to see the show, Red Zone, Hiroshima last year, and only 2,000 did this year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: One out of every three people in Red Zone, Hiroshima on 2025, looked around and said, yeah, I'm good this year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: One in three decided not to go and that is not a one off that pattern continued.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There were 1100 in the building for it was it's a I'm going to bring it up here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yamaguchi last year there were 1100 last year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and 737 this year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: When you got to saga for he's in No Kuni last year, 1,600 this year, 1,058.

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[SPEAKER_00]: One in three people that watched this tour last year decided not to go back and see it again, objectively what New Japan's doing isn't working.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And why it's dull.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The guys are sleeping walking

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[SPEAKER_00]: And anyone that's presented as a star isn't friggin' there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the people that are there are presented as MOOCs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Guys that fail over and over again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We've covered that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they're protected.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like to some extent they're protected for these big matches, but they're not particularly exciting and you can't put any teeth on anything because they're not facing the guy everybody knows that if they're destination right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just watching, watching Yoda in that United Empire match, just like stepping aside.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So Shingo can get into it with Calum Newman and he's just like, I'm gonna hang it out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, every, every, every, you get, you get, you get, you know, he got more going on than Yoda suit you got right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, I just say, as soon as that's been budgeted already, but there is no planet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll say it again here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No planet on which a 35% drop and paid attendance means things are okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's no planet in which that's true.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That is that is a sign of a real real issue that if one and three people go to your show and decide not to come back, you're not doing good, you're not doing good shows.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And those people that showed up this week

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[SPEAKER_00]: If they saw Red Zone and Hiroshima on those last two tag team matches, yeah, right now the tag team division is the only thing exciting in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what I'm talking about.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Unfortunately, a tag team division cannot keep the promotion off feet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, and thinking how that's flip flop from from what?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Eight months ago.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know that the tag team division was good guys that how that are driving interest in the It's it's six because the two guys in the junior heavyweight title match have our exciting as well And thanks, but yeah, it's a no but they they put

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[SPEAKER_01]: They don't ever do this, but they just put the dog out brothers with, again, two random guys on the roster a bunch of times on their show, just to put them on just to give them a match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because they like, they think drugs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they're not even doing multi-man tags.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're just putting the knockout brothers in non-title matches against y'all who went on tight.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, partner.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, over and over again, they're just because they want to get one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't, I'm not against this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: But like,

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[SPEAKER_01]: At some point, why aren't you just putting random singles matches with some of the these guys on the roster more than you were doing in the beginning of the year?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, like at the beginning of the year, we were happy with a lot of these like really hot, out-of-the-gate like innovative matches that they were coming up with with like hardworking just stuff right for the cup.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I get it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: People starting to get banged up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, you got

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[SPEAKER_01]: but they're about here and I don't know if it's

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[SPEAKER_01]: You got a bunch of company guys that are going to show up in and clock in and clock out, but they're not really in love with the direction of putting Calum Newman, the belt on him, and you got an audience that isn't really showing up for Calum Newman as the champion right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I can see why people are just like, alright, I'm going to wait for the next cycle and then I'll really show what I got there because I'm just a supporting guy right here and I'll do what I'll do my job.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, let you look at this red zone of Hiroshima until those two tag team matches at the end.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This was a house show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This was a house show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: These matches nothing particularly interesting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They did an eight man tag in the middle with house a torture against.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's see, it's Tiger Mask, Machabe, Bolton, and Wolf.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It went to a no contest, which is different.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They don't do a lot of no contest.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a referee actually threw it out because of all the interference.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And even that was done poorly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But anyway, Doki ended up pulling the mask off of Tiger Mask to get he tried to put a little steam on that match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then Tiger Mask, here's, okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So they have this thing, right, Derby?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So there's a schmaz, the usual house torture stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Everyone's getting ganged up on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Toroiano comes out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He had wrestled in the first match and helps tiger mask a little bit with house torture, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: But they're overwhelmed and they pull the mask off a tiger match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: When they pull the mask off, Watto and yo, who were in the same match asiano, come flying into help.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Where the hell were they?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, the rest of them were getting the crack kicked out of them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They were smart enough not to show up for that part, I guess.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, the whole thing gets thrown out and then Tiger Mass comes on and says, I know what will fix this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's get a lumberjack match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so they made it a lumberjack match for he's and no kooni.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll talk about that lumberjack match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll put it in air quotes later on because they don't even really know how to do that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's the turns out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But never mind if you're too mitigating factor that we'll get into that on the holiday.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But that was it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The rest of this was a house show until we got into and here's another point that I'm trying there's another point going back to that startup show where they put over new people right tag team match after the one I just talked about heartly Jackson and Rio heo heo heo heo Russell Tomo walky honma

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm getting so tired Jeremy of people saying that you you way more is the future of New Japan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And real, you know, the game is the future over in New Japan.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He does doesn't mean you're you're you're catching on to that, too, that he has to be like out there smile and the and the promise of what New Japan can bring.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just the same.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's so bad.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then that pose he does with his arms as that's stupid.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Get another one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's the right deal.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's the U.E.

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[SPEAKER_01]: A birthday of Randy York.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Here's my point.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If these guys, if New Japan thinks these guys are the future, oh, we won.

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[SPEAKER_00]: U.E.

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[SPEAKER_00]: way more.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: What do you at least?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, there's no.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And a lot of these matches they put over people who are going to be in the Super Junior tournament.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Those are often the people that got pins in the multi-mantech.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, we're going into BOSJ, makes perfect sense.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm down with that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This match didn't have any of those guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: These were all heavyweights, Hartley and O'Weewa, Hona Yuya, the finish was Jackson pinning Hona.

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[SPEAKER_00]: they couldn't even get a we will or we more a pin in an undercard tag match but don't tell me these guys are being pushed don't tell me this is their time and yeah prime the audience for what they want

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[SPEAKER_00]: Jeremy, I don't have to, I am 51 years old.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I can't live that long.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think I can.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think I'm going to make it to the end.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We watch, we watch all the small shows that, you know, come back, we just can't wait for the big show for whatever chaos we buy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: In that match, we're more in a way we can't get a win.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Are you still?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my God.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, you see my point, though.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, sir.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, they talked about their rivalry, but I never talked to anyone getting an advantage in their rivalry.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Or doing anything interesting in their rivalry.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And both of we were, and, oh, Amora, are weak promos, too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're just like, let's show them what New Japan brings.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think we were the better promos than, yeah, or a, yes, yeah, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it's not, that's a low bar jump over.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But hey, yeah, then.

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[SPEAKER_00]: IWGP Junior Heavyweight Tag Team title match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This was a nice refreshing change to everything we have been seeing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Each about sweet boys, CoSafe, Fujin, and Robbie Eagles defeated Robbie X and Taigi issue more to win back those Junior Tag Team titles 20 minutes and five seconds in Jeremy, fantastic, freaking tag match, these guys never fail.

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[SPEAKER_00]: they always deliver.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was tremendous again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is a rivalry that is the best rivalry in Newspample wrestling right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't care which team has the belts.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They build on their previous matches so they go back and remember what big spots they have and the team that was the victim of those big spots comes up with a counter for them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So they reward you for paying attention to each of their matches because something will be added to each time they come through.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's the breath of fresh air we needed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Ron Miller special by the way on Eagles on Ishimorey for the tap out and now these teams are two to two.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They are in these title matches.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I hope we get a fifth, sixth, seventh, eighth.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Love these four.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Could watch them all day every show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I hope I get to again very soon.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Fantastic stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Made me feel better about the whole night and one match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're all so good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're all just,

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're all so good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, Coca Fuji is the future ace of the company.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Robbie Eagles has not missed a step, even though, like, he has every excuse to not be as good as he is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Robbie, yeah, it's probably one of the most underrated records in the world.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Taiji Shimori, he does this,

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[SPEAKER_01]: You jumped in for work and this is just a, you know, a regular Tuesday for him here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, like you've just, yeah, yeah, it was the life of watching this man in light of everything else that I was watching because it was really just, okay, I can walk in there whole lot to take in here, rather than, you know, the flow break spot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: followed by whatever, you know, weird myths and maturing in a deal on the undercard that you've done for the last four times.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It just felt consequential.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It felt important.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And this and the next match were the bright shining points of my wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and, you know, Jeremy Ortsang, I still don't understand the lack of effort.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You expect fans to be excited with no effort.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's puzzling.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think there's a little bit of demoralization because they can see the crowds are dwindling.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They can see.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, again, that's snowball effect, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: The wrestlers are down because the crowds down, they're like, oh, and then they don't work as hard.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then the people to do pay are like, well, that shows Stunk, I'm not gonna come back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then the next time it's even smaller.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So the guys are even more depressed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's the kind of thing that if it's not addressed, it can tell you still don't know broth.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We see it all out of ways.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's what we're saying.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're seeing a lot of guys that are moping around.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they know that there's nothing interesting going on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're not going to get to the G1.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It'll be exciting when we get to the best of the Super Junior is zooming in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There are bones of a good card in development that they could come together with.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They could write the ship.

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[SPEAKER_01]: they very much can.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if they can urgently to do so or if they think the ship needs writing but this is this is a struggle to get through for me personally and I have not felt this way probably in the five years of watching New Japan that I'm just like okay you know just I'm not

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to take a break between the matches and I'll go up the dog and talk about that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's I'll watch another one because they're short.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're two hour shows.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, they're they're they're breath.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're getting in and out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're keeping the guy's healthy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're doing all the things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But there's also not a whole lot of me to those boats.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you make it look good point about it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's it's it's

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[SPEAKER_00]: the snowball effect and all, but, and to your point about whether or not they see that it needs fixing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If the people in charge of New Japan look at 3,000, one year versus 2,000, the next year, and they don't think anything needs fixing,

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[SPEAKER_00]: they're the problem.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Those are the people that need to find other gigs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think we might be getting to the point where there needs to be some sort of change at the top.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just, it's nerve-wracking to see an entire week drop 35 percent.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That is such a big number.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And such a scary number that for that many people to want it to not come back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And if they're not realizing there's an issue here, then they're, then they're, then they're the issue.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And if you'll slightly

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we were talking about how those undercard matches were hard to watch, but these two tagged title matches were not.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I walked out of that Hiroshima show, feeling really good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The recent sea bias of those final two matches.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But let's talk about the other one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was the knockout brothers against Beishaman.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Heroic, he goto, and Yoshi Hashie 26 minutes and 32 seconds did not feel that long at all.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was stunned when I saw the time call on that one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: need you, you know, 20 minutes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, you're kidding.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I went and looked at the clock in my legs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Seriously, 20 minutes of flu by the couple of things to point out here, Yoshi has she sold so well for Oscar in this match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That sequence where Oscar was just throwing Yoshi has she around.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yoshi has she went in there deciding that he was going to make Oscar look like Bob Sap, you know, just like the the strongest guy in the company and he bounced off of the turn buckles.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He threw himself in the air for everything Oscar did just decided he was going to make Oscar look like the biggest powerhouse.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And of course, Oscars.

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[SPEAKER_00]: really, really good at playing that role as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that sequence of this match was my favorite.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was just watching Yoshi Hashie put this guy over and in terms of his strength and power and physical presence, putting over Oscar's physical presence.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Mass built beautifully all four of these guys know what they're doing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they both hit their big moves.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, ice broke up a shadow on a husker when it looked like Bishamon was going to win it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But ice managed to get in there at the last possible second and make it safe.

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[SPEAKER_00]: uh... they hit the uh... knockout bomb on heroic he goto but they were all too beaten up to make the cover so bishamun survived for a little while longer big move time was exciting they ended up hitting a second knockout bomb this time on Yoshi hashy to win it and knockout brothers are the best and the most overact in new japan right now they are

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I mean, like, that's why they're getting these tag matches against Tom Oki-Honman, Y'all Tori-Yano and Maka-Bang-Yano in the bottom of the car.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're going through these guys and looking dominant in a way that no one else on the car even gets an opportunity to do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're a spotlight.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They've clearly managed to channel into something.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if they could go back and do it differently.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I wonder if we were in a world where you know, I said one, the IWGP title instead of Calum Newman, what kind of scenario we'd be in right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, you know, I said one, the New Japan company.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he had beaten Yoda Suji for that title.

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[SPEAKER_01]: How much conversation would be having right now?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'll be interesting and I'm not saying they should have done it, but you make a point where it's just they're going to do it if they're going to take the title off of you to Fuji and you to guide and make other guys why not go with the guy that actually scorching hot right now can actually wrestle you can pivot from what they're doing make it will completely dominant with the tag titles and the thing will like the IW GP title at the same time and just write it to hot hand.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I agree with you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I know you mean anyway, but I honestly think this calm numenteidal rain is about.

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[SPEAKER_00]: a misunderstanding on the part of the booking where they think that Yoda Suji is now made.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's won the Russell Kingdom main event.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He held it that way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Never mind the early.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He won the main event.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they know you're right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they made him look like a puts because after winning them after winning the title, he makes this big proclamation that he's now a double champion and I'm going to bring back the V4 version of the title and this is only for Japan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And this is only for international shows and he can't hold it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's a failure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like after all that talk, he fails to hold on to it after a couple of defenses.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's not made.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: In fact, he has already been downgraded a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He just looked at it again.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I watched him, you know, like I watched him in that match yesterday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he just yet just to guy energy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it's just standing in the back of the crowd.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, that's not really my time to shine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't, I don't really like,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, I don't understand out when I have no reason to stand out and it's just no, you need to be you, you have to have all eyes on you at all times you have to drop people to you and the charisma that he is doing is not tough guy presence, neither tell Newman.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they're not working at that way because on the unbound company side shingles the one in the main event of red of Don Taco and that's who's getting the attention in the tag match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So not only did they do that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They made him second fiddle to the guy standing in the Frustrated about that magic just watching go to Fuji hang out and you're like, all right, I'm stepping off because shingo turn at the title and if you're like

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, he should have had a single batch at the bottom of the card.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Again, some random dude, or he just beat his half and you just reminded, I, I'm going to fuck it through G. Yes, God.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the thing is, he's so much of a MOOC, too, because he goes in there and remember, Calonum and kicked him low.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was an illegal low blow that set up the finish, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Suji, not that upset about it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like why isn't he trying to tear Newman's face off in these matches?

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[SPEAKER_00]: If it's the one thing that drives me nuts and wrestling sometimes is when they forget that they're supposed to be pissed about something, you know, like if you just got partially cheated out of the belts, aren't you just wanting to get it?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And his whole thing is just like, well, all right, I guess I'll just wait for around a day to come back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: like you don't look strong.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You don't look tough.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You don't look like a big deal like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's again, just more problems with the booking.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And on forced errors, if sushi had come into these matches and as soon as the bell rings, he goes, he and Shingo go right for Newman because they want to tear Newman up because they stole the title away from unbound company and all that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He would look better, but the fact that he just hangs out there and says, oh, there's the guy that hit me low and beat me for my title.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm looking him over there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Nice belt.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I guess I'll just wait for him to out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, no, no.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He looks like a puns and just be just winning the title.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Does it really have Kalum Newman that over either?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So here we are.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Did you leave the interview with Endraude?

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[SPEAKER_01]: promoting match that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, very well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, he called him a couple more.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He, uh, a draft rated Yoda.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He called him a crap imitation of Luke's a Libra.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, he called him a sheet imitation of Leech, Leech, Libra.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, but I'm trying to keep from getting marked explicit for this podcast.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, which Libra is in my blood.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm Mexican.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm the real, you know, man, and Tradeo, Edo.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, just the charisma in this man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: you know, like I expect him to beat him, I expect him to be Yoda.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So why would I, why would I think Yoda wins that match?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you do not, I mean, hearing him down.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He might he might not.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's where we are with this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Just like I, he might, he might not.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I have no confidence that he's going to win.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, so they had another one like I mentioned in Yamaguchi.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They actually did two shows in the Yamaguchi region.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The only one was on NJPW World, thank God.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it was a road to don't talk a show that was almost in consequential on the 26th.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And again, that one had 1129 last year, only 737 bothered to show up this year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they saw an absolute snoozeer of a show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then we moved on to, I mentioned they did the other one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was in a new town, the YMI is what it was called.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They hadn't run it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't have any attendance numbers to compare it with, but I think it was just under 700 they did there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Then they moved on to saga, the saga arena.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is where he's in No Kuni has been, since they named the show that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And last year, 1,600 for this year, 1,058.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and boy the show that they got the main event they got I'm sure there'll be a line enough to come back next year so here's the thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you have any notes on the undercard I have a couple but if you have some thoughts on the undercard of uh he's a no-coony I will defer to you for the moment for right talk about mine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No I think.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think we don't want to get to the TMTK match and the backstage promo that's probably the most no worthy thing on the undercard of that on that card and you have the more detailed note on that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're not bearing the lead but quite frankly the backstage comment on the show was the most interesting thing on the card.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah and we're going to talk about there were there

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[SPEAKER_00]: My notes, you mentioned how knockout brothers have been having these matches about second on the card, non-title against undercard teams, other than that, it was intelligently booked in this way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to give credit when it actually works out three of the first four matches were one by people who will be in the Super Junior tournament.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's fine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's get used to seeing the guys in the tournament win.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm down with that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think they handled that correctly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They absolutely wasted Mystico, who Mystico's in town for red zone.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's red zone.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's in No Kuni, but he's at Don Taco.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He was teeming up with Bolton and Wolf.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Aaron Wolf and Bolton and Mystico.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The problem is, look at who you put one of the most exciting workers in the world with.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Rennerita, Dan Fale, and Dictogo.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's still my heart.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Dictogo is by far the best wrestler of those days.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You've worked in hard on that match, trying to get something.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Also, his go-t.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I have not been paying attention.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Amazing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Dictogo's go-t is out of control.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Aaron Wolf coming out to Mexico,

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[SPEAKER_01]: net uh newsman basically literally break the even because if not me there to No, they were not paying the money to that and the audience would not be chanting along to it but Aaron Wolf is just a guy following along and then Bowen Oleg get the huge

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[SPEAKER_01]: final entrance for the baby fake team.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This guy's looking like a star over in New Japan.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's just like every time I see him, like this is what they want Air Norse to be, and yet they don't realize they already have him bought Norse.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and then they add the preview match for the main event that was Newman, J.C. Lee, Zain Jay, and Francesco Akira against Robbie X, Tay, Gishimori, Shingo Takagi, and Rio de Suji.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Newman won it with a maiden Japan, so he's sending the message by beating Robbie X with Shingo's move, and then he laid out Shingo afterwards.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So putting a lot of heat on Shingo, leaving him

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[SPEAKER_00]: look good there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Then we had the lumberjack match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now we've talked about how this is out of respect for Tiger mask retiring this summer.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's been there for a very, very long time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They wanted to give him one last hurrah and here it was against Doki.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The issue is they just booked themselves into a corner with this and then didn't execute it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So the idea was

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was a lumberjack mash.

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[SPEAKER_00]: On the surface, that's a great stipulation for this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The idea being Tiger Masks saying, look, I know the situation, no matter what I do, you're gonna have your guys with you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Whether it's legal or not, because God knows President Tana Hash he's gonna sit there with his thumb up his ass.

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[SPEAKER_00]: with that in mind, if no matter what happens, I'm going to have a dozen house torture guys hanging around out here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I want my guys out here with me, perfectly legal, back in help me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: On the surface, that's within the weird logic of pro wrestling, I think, you know, you got your guys, I'll have my gang to neutralize them, is the idea.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Then they did the batch.

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[SPEAKER_00]: partially retiring because his body can't do what it used to do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He really can't have terrific matches anymore.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's just a little, his body just doesn't let him do that anymore, ages undefeated, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Don't he can still have terrific matches, but he's in a house of torture so he doesn't.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to bring up a couple of things about these lumberjacks, all right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Early on, started out, okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Don't he?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Took like a hip toss, or something else, or arm drag, or dropkick, or something like that, and slid out of the ring.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then the baby faces shoved him back in establishing the stipulation.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're on to it here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now every time he goes out, he gets pushed back in.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, remind me everybody.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is how it is supposed to work and of course, then he went out on the house of torture side and they dilly dally didn't hurry him back in and all that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All that's fine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Then later on, the house of torture grabs tiger mass by the ankles pulls him out of the ring and begins to stop a mud hole in him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The baby faces see this happening and they scroll slowly back to the other side and point at it and do nothing to help him at all.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But like Yano has to slow himself down and like grab the ring post like it has a gravitational pull to try to get over the idea that he's not getting to tiger mask to help him at this point.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Of course, inevitably, house torture and haunties start brawling, you know, Jeremy, back in the territory days that used to know how to work these lumberjack matches and not everything turned into a battle royal to actually knew how to do it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But here, they get into a big fight, Tana, how she stands up from the time, keep her stable and points to the back, get him out of here, bandaged, everybody benched, they drag him out.

57:48.603 --> 57:52.007
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not what a lumberjack match is supposed to flip and be.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, so they carry them on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So now they're all gone.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly, they're still in a fear.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's because there's more house to torture guys because show, is that ring side doing commentary?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so basically they never mind in the entire concept of the lumberjack match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They show, if you guys don't carry and show a cold to you while doing commentary at the house to torture guys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so they can't you to get involved in the match?

58:17.797 --> 58:22.563
[SPEAKER_00]: So they never mind of the entire idea of a lumberjack match still had all the outside interference.

58:22.903 --> 58:28.370
[SPEAKER_00]: Tana-Hashi still sat there like a big idiot like a useless impotent dork.

58:29.111 --> 58:38.623
[SPEAKER_00]: While all this is going on does nothing about it afterwards, Doki wins by cheating again, even in a lumberjack match, he manages to cheat and win house torture style, the mess stunk.

58:38.603 --> 58:40.246
[SPEAKER_00]: there was there was a bad match.

58:41.268 --> 58:46.276
[SPEAKER_00]: Tana Hashi like the impudent geeky is goes into the ring and puts the belt on him.

58:46.296 --> 58:49.081
[SPEAKER_00]: This is the guy who part of his thing was.

58:49.121 --> 58:55.793
[SPEAKER_00]: He was going to help curb out of the torture and he's over there putting the book and then dokey right in his face says, I'm off the rest of the tour.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not working best to the Super Junior's.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Why is it honest question for a Jeremy and anybody here that is listening to this live?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Why is Hiroshi Tanahashi as the president of this company making himself look like such a useless dork?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Why in the world?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And there's the whole thing I can think of.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Tanahashi's the biggest star in New Japan over the last 25 years, right?

59:21.299 --> 59:23.021
[SPEAKER_00]: Take the 21st century.

59:23.322 --> 59:27.308
[SPEAKER_00]: Tanahashi, if you were going to say, is the biggest star that New Japan has had.

59:28.418 --> 59:30.401
[SPEAKER_00]: The, and so let's go the other way.

59:31.863 --> 59:47.744
[SPEAKER_01]: Even if I ask Zach or approach to showing the audience and showing the promotion that he has no longer the person that you can count on to fit things or make what wrong right would Steve Austin or the rock allow themselves to look that dorky and impenet.

59:47.804 --> 59:49.566
[SPEAKER_00]: No, they would sit there and go, I ain't doing it.

59:50.204 --> 59:54.170
[SPEAKER_00]: Why isn't Tana Hoshie just going, I am not going to look like a useless moron.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't understand any of this.

59:57.014 --> 59:57.976
[SPEAKER_00]: Because he's the president.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That answer makes exactly no sense, that's to buy.

01:00:01.120 --> 01:00:02.062
[SPEAKER_00]: None whatsoever.

01:00:02.623 --> 01:00:03.524
[SPEAKER_00]: Because he's the president.

01:00:03.564 --> 01:00:05.988
[SPEAKER_00]: That's why he should be able to have some kind of authority.

01:00:06.048 --> 01:00:08.591
[SPEAKER_00]: Why is he booking himself to look like an idiot all the time?

01:00:09.012 --> 01:00:12.297
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's taken all the juice out of the,

01:00:12.277 --> 01:00:20.088
[SPEAKER_00]: presentation of this, the House of Torch stuff stinks in the first place and then he's making himself in the control of what exactly here the authority is.

01:00:20.648 --> 01:00:33.846
[SPEAKER_01]: And if you have the authority to banish people from the red side that actually banish them and they're not banished from red side, like even if he made a declaration to do that and it doesn't work,

01:00:34.231 --> 01:00:39.485
[SPEAKER_01]: Those are the little, those are the little death by a thousand cuts that make an authority figure.

01:00:39.545 --> 01:00:46.563
[SPEAKER_01]: Look, we do not put them in a position to look weak without some kind of for attribution moving forward.

01:00:46.984 --> 01:00:48.949
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, Stephen.

01:00:49.773 --> 01:01:19.510
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm talking to the stiff guys, Josh and Dave, we were stiff, and it seems that they were able to find out that Doki-Actu came into the match a little injured and then we were body, and so that explains a lot why they needed to do a rubber check match, and I kind of assumed that the submission finished with more because Tiger Mass was probably not going to take a Super Club

01:01:19.490 --> 01:01:25.579
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, you know, not really able to do as much as he normally does.

01:01:25.739 --> 01:01:37.237
[SPEAKER_01]: And on lumberjack match and a small match like this, even though it's the house for torture, we'll like in their wheelbarrow, it, and also answer a lot of questions about why this match was the way that it was.

01:01:37.857 --> 01:01:38.899
[SPEAKER_01]: Now,

01:01:39.065 --> 01:01:56.763
[SPEAKER_01]: There has already been an official announcement that he's off the rest of the card with the Jiro Takashi taking over his thing and this is all storyline with the best of the Super Junior not being on the best of the Super figures, but there is legitimate injury that he is dealing with that was exacerbated.

01:01:57.224 --> 01:02:07.975
[SPEAKER_01]: It sounds like in this match, so there are a lot of things that are potentially up in the air, so the next couple weeks going with Doki, you know, he's not going

01:02:08.714 --> 01:02:23.231
[SPEAKER_01]: And he can still get healthy and defend the title and be eye that turns it over with the hundred with the hundred title weight of whoever is the guy to win the belt for to be the number one hundred for that belt.

01:02:23.831 --> 01:02:35.565
[SPEAKER_01]: All that can still happen was him not in the best of super triggers or he's in the best of super triggers either way, but you know, right now there are a lot of questions that like remains to be seen.

01:02:36.862 --> 01:02:41.308
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so anyway, it's just one of those, it's one of those things where it was a bad match.

01:02:41.328 --> 01:02:43.090
[SPEAKER_00]: It was all house of torture.

01:02:43.891 --> 01:02:49.679
[SPEAKER_00]: And again, just, you know, town of how she just looks, looks weak, makes the promotion look weak, makes myself look weak.

01:02:49.699 --> 01:02:50.100
[SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't.

01:02:51.762 --> 01:02:52.703
[SPEAKER_00]: Not helping anything.

01:02:52.783 --> 01:02:56.408
[SPEAKER_01]: And obviously, again, object like a shoddy egg or my fruit, you don't like it.

01:02:56.669 --> 01:02:58.211
[SPEAKER_01]: And when you're over, you feel awful.

01:02:59.893 --> 01:03:03.578
[SPEAKER_00]: And again, objectively, this is bombing at the box office.

01:03:04.604 --> 01:03:05.486
[SPEAKER_00]: people aren't paying to see it.

01:03:05.786 --> 01:03:06.247
[SPEAKER_00]: So there you go.

01:03:07.489 --> 01:03:08.911
[SPEAKER_00]: Don Taku is coming up though.

01:03:09.132 --> 01:03:15.543
[SPEAKER_00]: So we do have a, well, there's another house show, by the way, that's not going to be on NJPW World on the first.

01:03:15.623 --> 01:03:16.685
[SPEAKER_00]: There's that one's coming up.

01:03:17.827 --> 01:03:19.329
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's see, where's this one?

01:03:19.349 --> 01:03:20.231
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's see here.

01:03:20.571 --> 01:03:21.092
[SPEAKER_00]: Kagashima.

01:03:21.273 --> 01:03:23.276
[SPEAKER_00]: Kagashima on May 1st.

01:03:23.837 --> 01:03:28.485
[SPEAKER_00]: And then we have Don Taku and Fukuoka on May 3rd and May 4th.

01:03:28.465 --> 01:03:39.655
[SPEAKER_00]: And then I'll be enough on May 6th, they're right back in Saga, but we don't have a card because, you know, the per k favoris and so we have to wait until after don't talk it or know who's going to be wrestling who and who's going to be champion some what and all that stuff.

01:03:40.316 --> 01:03:44.668
[SPEAKER_00]: But pro wrestling don't talk who is on the way before we get to don't talk who though.

01:03:44.648 --> 01:03:47.632
[SPEAKER_00]: We had a couple of backstage comments today.

01:03:47.933 --> 01:03:48.594
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.

01:03:49.395 --> 01:03:54.823
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, yesterday, the after he's a no-coony that are worth mentioning.

01:03:54.903 --> 01:03:56.225
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm going to bring a couple.

01:03:56.245 --> 01:03:58.888
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to let you roll on one because I know you want to talk about Jeremy.

01:03:59.589 --> 01:04:00.230
[SPEAKER_00]: You're reaching to it.

01:04:00.250 --> 01:04:00.911
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm going to let you.

01:04:00.931 --> 01:04:13.930
[SPEAKER_01]: One of the one that I gravitated to work with somebody mentioned on a line that cocafujed had some absolutely choice words for Master Wattow after Master Wattow called

01:04:14.652 --> 01:04:15.995
[SPEAKER_01]: Coca Fugina Senpai.

01:04:16.797 --> 01:04:19.903
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he's being 30 years old and Fugina being 23.

01:04:20.424 --> 01:04:24.373
[SPEAKER_01]: And I know you have more detailed notes about this.

01:04:24.613 --> 01:04:27.379
[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't want to take away from it.

01:04:28.102 --> 01:04:48.287
[SPEAKER_01]: But he ethered Wato, he called him an idiot multiple time, he told him he could not read the room and he was a goof for ruining desperate of moment on one occasion and in what world did he think that he was taking anything clearly and that the audience.

01:04:48.470 --> 01:04:51.604
[SPEAKER_01]: was responding to them anything other than being accused.

01:04:51.624 --> 01:04:54.316
[SPEAKER_01]: Please continue with everything that was in their case.

01:04:54.839 --> 01:04:58.294
[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like I introduced a few aspects of it, but I don't know if I got it all.

01:04:58.561 --> 01:05:01.385
[SPEAKER_00]: It was one of the best problems anyone's done in the company all year.

01:05:01.485 --> 01:05:07.994
[SPEAKER_00]: Infusion to just goes off on Wato and saying that you know why no one steps to you is no one thinks about you at all.

01:05:09.036 --> 01:05:10.718
[SPEAKER_00]: You're a non-factor.

01:05:10.818 --> 01:05:16.526
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, whenever someone's challenging, no one looks at you, no one tries to get in your face.

01:05:16.546 --> 01:05:17.007
[SPEAKER_00]: You know why?

01:05:17.107 --> 01:05:19.911
[SPEAKER_00]: Because you don't mean anything to anyone.

01:05:19.891 --> 01:05:20.954
[SPEAKER_00]: And no one cares.

01:05:21.074 --> 01:05:22.218
[SPEAKER_00]: You're just a non entity.

01:05:22.258 --> 01:05:24.484
[SPEAKER_00]: This is what Fuji is saying to Wato.

01:05:24.504 --> 01:05:26.489
[SPEAKER_00]: And like you said, too, he says, your tone deaf.

01:05:26.871 --> 01:05:27.753
[SPEAKER_00]: You can't read the room.

01:05:28.174 --> 01:05:30.581
[SPEAKER_00]: You don't know when your time is and when it's not.

01:05:31.122 --> 01:05:34.913
[SPEAKER_00]: And you're just wandering around out there and you just don't mean anything.

01:05:34.994 --> 01:05:52.868
[SPEAKER_01]: And what about and you look past the audience and you realize and everyone see if you know what that means you don't care about these belts you only care about what come after And I think you don't respect the people that carry these belts you don't respect the people who worked hard for these belts you don't respect any of it and it's like Whoa

01:05:53.489 --> 01:06:01.518
[SPEAKER_00]: it was so good and it goes toward my theory that those two are going to be very involved in how Super Junior turns out.

01:06:01.999 --> 01:06:04.181
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that they are two of the best candidates.

01:06:04.242 --> 01:06:07.465
[SPEAKER_00]: I mentioned how Watto and Dokey are tied together.

01:06:08.707 --> 01:06:14.974
[SPEAKER_00]: Dokey attacked Watto on Watto's first day back from excursion and it was Watto's first

01:06:14.954 --> 01:06:20.822
[SPEAKER_00]: And then, well, for Doki it made sense.

01:06:20.842 --> 01:06:23.606
[SPEAKER_01]: And because Yeah, let's do it.

01:06:23.626 --> 01:06:26.009
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, let's look at the cave thing on it, because it is deep.

01:06:27.492 --> 01:06:31.818
[SPEAKER_00]: Wato from Doki's perspective was handed everything he had worked for.

01:06:33.039 --> 01:06:44.235
[SPEAKER_00]: From Doki's characters perspective, this is a guy who went, who was accepted to the Dojo worked in the Dojo and then got booked directly into a arena, Mexico, the one place

01:06:44.553 --> 01:06:47.237
[SPEAKER_00]: quad and scratched and could not get booked.

01:06:47.557 --> 01:06:49.100
[SPEAKER_00]: And New Japan just makes a call.

01:06:49.140 --> 01:06:50.962
[SPEAKER_00]: And he walks into the doors of arena Mexico.

01:06:50.982 --> 01:06:53.266
[SPEAKER_00]: That's that's how Doki is seeing Watto.

01:06:53.286 --> 01:06:56.470
[SPEAKER_00]: So when Watto came back from excursion, Oki could not handle it.

01:06:56.991 --> 01:07:01.578
[SPEAKER_00]: And they've been and they've hated him ever since Food should have mean while won the tournament just recently.

01:07:01.638 --> 01:07:04.262
[SPEAKER_00]: Watto and Tojada, I think are the two most recent tournament winners.

01:07:04.282 --> 01:07:04.562
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it.

01:07:05.103 --> 01:07:06.786
[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, you want the tournament.

01:07:06.806 --> 01:07:07.727
[SPEAKER_01]: What did you do with it?

01:07:07.747 --> 01:07:08.468
[SPEAKER_01]: Nothing.

01:07:08.448 --> 01:07:09.109
[SPEAKER_00]: nothing.

01:07:09.129 --> 01:07:11.475
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's like it never happened.

01:07:11.495 --> 01:07:12.457
[SPEAKER_00]: It's what he's saying.

01:07:13.439 --> 01:07:18.329
[SPEAKER_00]: I think these two are going to be major players in this term coming up because both of them have a reason to be there.

01:07:18.369 --> 01:07:23.160
[SPEAKER_00]: Both of them have a reason to be toward the top and both of them have a reason to go after Dokey big time.

01:07:23.280 --> 01:07:27.469
[SPEAKER_01]: So I think a lot of somebody remembered what that cutting a promo part of being a pro wrestler.

01:07:27.449 --> 01:07:34.897
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my god, the other one, I got to say this, show to Umano, just to give you an idea if anybody did notice how small the crowds were.

01:07:35.377 --> 01:07:41.524
[SPEAKER_00]: Showed his entire promo after and backstage comments was about how exciting it is to go and see live wrestling.

01:07:42.365 --> 01:07:50.613
[SPEAKER_00]: And don't you, and I, you know, his whole thing was about there's nothing like going to see it in person and coming to see like it's a company man Jeremy, he did it.

01:07:50.633 --> 01:07:53.316
[SPEAKER_00]: And he's a better promo than his contemporaries.

01:07:53.336 --> 01:07:57.220
[SPEAKER_01]: Like he at least has a little

01:07:57.352 --> 01:08:00.295
[SPEAKER_00]: No, but I appreciate at least he did that.

01:08:00.535 --> 01:08:02.517
[SPEAKER_00]: He at least tried to do something.

01:08:02.537 --> 01:08:05.079
[SPEAKER_00]: He went out there and just said, there's nothing like coming to see this life.

01:08:05.299 --> 01:08:06.821
[SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't come across on TV.

01:08:06.841 --> 01:08:08.643
[SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't come across on the NJPW world.

01:08:08.863 --> 01:08:09.984
[SPEAKER_00]: He got to come see a life.

01:08:10.244 --> 01:08:15.309
[SPEAKER_00]: What is the way more I do is, me and Louis, what we are going to show what New Japan is all about.

01:08:15.349 --> 01:08:16.070
[SPEAKER_00]: Shut up.

01:08:16.090 --> 01:08:17.591
[SPEAKER_00]: Just what are we going to do?

01:08:17.631 --> 01:08:19.032
[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to catch this property.

01:08:19.052 --> 01:08:20.434
[SPEAKER_01]: You can't kind of promote for him.

01:08:20.454 --> 01:08:22.055
[SPEAKER_01]: He can chase Owen.

01:08:22.075 --> 01:08:22.395
[SPEAKER_00]: Thanks.

01:08:22.436 --> 01:08:24.017
[SPEAKER_00]: Thanks, Sanada.

01:08:23.997 --> 01:08:25.438
[SPEAKER_00]: Thanks, and I appreciate it.

01:08:25.458 --> 01:08:28.061
[SPEAKER_00]: That's that I for all it's talking about a way more of being the future.

01:08:28.281 --> 01:08:29.442
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, the future, Sonata.

01:08:30.363 --> 01:08:37.270
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, and then after that, uh, Aaron Wolfe, by the way, had a pretty decent promo for his match with Falae, had a pretty decent one.

01:08:37.290 --> 01:08:42.155
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not, and not on the level of food there or what some of the stuff that I can to guys been doing.

01:08:42.175 --> 01:08:45.358
[SPEAKER_00]: That guy cut a promo, but, uh, Wolfe is improving.

01:08:45.978 --> 01:08:46.859
[SPEAKER_00]: We got a body plan.

01:08:48.401 --> 01:08:49.281
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, right?

01:08:49.522 --> 01:08:50.202
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, of course, right?

01:08:50.883 --> 01:08:50.983
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

01:08:51.436 --> 01:08:53.978
[SPEAKER_01]: some sort of a broad splash off the top rope.

01:08:54.399 --> 01:08:55.100
[SPEAKER_00]: Judo throw.

01:08:55.500 --> 01:08:58.863
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, this has to be about him moving back.

01:08:58.883 --> 01:09:02.046
[SPEAKER_01]: He's a clam body clam for a splash off the top rope.

01:09:02.066 --> 01:09:02.867
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, there you have it.

01:09:03.408 --> 01:09:05.870
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, let's take a look at that don't talk of card then.

01:09:05.910 --> 01:09:06.951
[SPEAKER_00]: So we're going to go here.

01:09:07.131 --> 01:09:07.291
[SPEAKER_00]: Sure.

01:09:07.672 --> 01:09:09.373
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Maria Satu said excellent promo.

01:09:09.393 --> 01:09:11.215
[SPEAKER_00]: It really is worth taking your time.

01:09:11.235 --> 01:09:13.818
[SPEAKER_00]: How often do we tell you to go and watch backstage comments?

01:09:14.018 --> 01:09:14.819
[SPEAKER_00]: Not very often.

01:09:15.019 --> 01:09:18.422
[SPEAKER_00]: So take our word for the food you just stuffs worth of time.

01:09:18.402 --> 01:09:19.003
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

01:09:19.084 --> 01:09:23.333
[SPEAKER_00]: So we have probably done talk of Fukuoka, Fukuoka, I'll try that again.

01:09:23.353 --> 01:09:26.480
[SPEAKER_00]: Fukuoka, International Center on Sunday.

01:09:27.282 --> 01:09:32.153
[SPEAKER_00]: And that is the, like I mentioned, it's, uh, that is greenery day, right?

01:09:32.193 --> 01:09:33.095
[SPEAKER_00]: And golden week.

01:09:33.115 --> 01:09:33.897
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, greenery day.

01:09:34.478 --> 01:09:35.260
[SPEAKER_00]: No, I'm wrong.

01:09:35.380 --> 01:09:38.166
[SPEAKER_00]: Constitution Memorial Day.

01:09:38.213 --> 01:09:38.974
[SPEAKER_01]: today.

01:09:40.236 --> 01:09:41.778
[SPEAKER_00]: Constitution will order that.

01:09:41.798 --> 01:09:45.704
[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, let's take a look at that card on the third.

01:09:45.824 --> 01:09:50.732
[SPEAKER_00]: It will begin with a couple of matches that are very house-show-esque.

01:09:50.812 --> 01:09:52.134
[SPEAKER_00]: So we won't spend a lot of time on them.

01:09:52.674 --> 01:09:57.782
[SPEAKER_00]: Wato, yo, and Toriano against Tyson, Nakahara, Ryusuke Taguchi, and Tiger Mask.

01:09:58.743 --> 01:10:05.233
[SPEAKER_00]: And then after that, Oscar ice, non-title match against a mystery, yessida, and Tomaki, Honma.

01:10:06.209 --> 01:10:10.640
[SPEAKER_00]: Mystico joins up with El Desparado Taichi and Uemura.

01:10:10.960 --> 01:10:12.364
[SPEAKER_00]: Me, Uya, Uemura, good grief.

01:10:12.404 --> 01:10:13.366
[SPEAKER_00]: What can I say that name?

01:10:13.627 --> 01:10:14.749
[SPEAKER_00]: Uya, Uemura.

01:10:15.210 --> 01:10:19.882
[SPEAKER_00]: And then, their opponents, a better one, and a better showcase for Mystico by far.

01:10:20.102 --> 01:10:24.252
[SPEAKER_00]: Jose Fujita, Robbie Eagles, Hartley Jackson, Rio, Heo Ewa,

01:10:24.232 --> 01:10:30.081
[SPEAKER_00]: In some ways, Jeremy, I am curious to see Mystico work with all four of those guys in varying ways.

01:10:30.161 --> 01:10:31.744
[SPEAKER_00]: Hartley, of course, and Kosei food.

01:10:31.764 --> 01:10:33.767
[SPEAKER_01]: I won't make like going food you to throw bad.

01:10:34.187 --> 01:10:34.668
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my god.

01:10:34.989 --> 01:10:39.796
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but even that even him using Hartley as a base should be really entertaining.

01:10:39.816 --> 01:10:42.240
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I am assuming.

01:10:42.946 --> 01:10:46.630
[SPEAKER_01]: the winner of the main event on night two.

01:10:46.651 --> 01:11:00.347
[SPEAKER_01]: And for me, I've been trying to identify if they're going to be a potential opponent for the month of May, beforedoming in, or if we're going straight into the domain in a opponent, for that.

01:11:00.968 --> 01:11:12.582
[SPEAKER_01]: And for ever reason, I'm kind of looking at

01:11:13.793 --> 01:11:20.282
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I suppose at what I'm going to look at the events that are coming up for New Japan if they have anything.

01:11:21.083 --> 01:11:22.525
[SPEAKER_00]: If I think it's super juniors.

01:11:23.626 --> 01:11:26.550
[SPEAKER_01]: And then I don't think it's a juniors and then to make it.

01:11:26.570 --> 01:11:32.117
[SPEAKER_01]: So you're basically getting ready for whoever the main event, like whoever is going to be the dominion.

01:11:32.678 --> 01:11:36.683
[SPEAKER_01]: Challenger, it's like not necessarily sure Taiichi would be that guy for dominion.

01:11:37.284 --> 01:11:43.092
[SPEAKER_01]: But I'm curious, you know, just kind of,

01:11:43.477 --> 01:11:44.459
[SPEAKER_01]: Should be you.

01:11:44.479 --> 01:11:48.406
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean the focus in the match really should be the rivalry between you.

01:11:48.426 --> 01:11:49.568
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and Rio Hill.

01:11:49.588 --> 01:11:50.610
[SPEAKER_01]: You Well, it's not good.

01:11:50.630 --> 01:12:02.312
[SPEAKER_01]: They're building in the backstage for almost but I don't even think there's a whole lot of teeth to that right now and I think it's just kind of I just like I just like the combination of eight guys and I hope they have a bigger

01:12:02.579 --> 01:12:11.482
[SPEAKER_00]: And I mentioned that I don't think New Japan's all that interested in it because, I mean, we were more in OE would have been opposing each other in tag matches and the other guys have been getting the wins.

01:12:12.104 --> 01:12:15.593
[SPEAKER_00]: They haven't even bothered to show OE more or OE will get their handraised.

01:12:15.657 --> 01:12:18.000
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, I don't see that interested in it.

01:12:18.621 --> 01:12:32.840
[SPEAKER_00]: And so after that, we have Tetsuya Matsumoto, of course, with the Goro Army teaming up with Bishimon, against Great O'Con, Hinarre, and Will Osprey, and what is essentially a preview of the trio's match that's a title match coming up.

01:12:33.101 --> 01:12:40.952
[SPEAKER_00]: Of course, Bolton's busy on night one, Matsumoto taking the spot, and will almost certainly do the job there for the challenging tag team.

01:12:41.512 --> 01:12:44.196
[SPEAKER_00]: Great O'Con, Hinarre, and Osprey.

01:12:44.176 --> 01:12:47.020
[SPEAKER_01]: Do we do the right now or do we wait for the title match?

01:12:50.083 --> 01:12:52.426
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's wait for the title match.

01:12:53.147 --> 01:13:02.659
[SPEAKER_00]: After that, we have showed uminoteming with Konosuke Takeshta to take on Yuzuru Takahashi and Chase Owens in kind of an odd couple tag team.

01:13:03.140 --> 01:13:13.052
[SPEAKER_00]: Since they really don't care for each other all that much in K-Fab, and of course the preview really is Takeshta versus Chase Owens for the television title that will take place on night two.

01:13:13.522 --> 01:13:29.723
[SPEAKER_01]: exactly how do they make shake-overs and you draw talkahashi look strong in this match and how do they either get a win or not win and look strong so that to catch that in shake-overs have some type of compelling match the next day.

01:13:30.063 --> 01:13:34.549
[SPEAKER_01]: That is the true question for the match and I hope that we can answer it compellingly.

01:13:34.709 --> 01:13:35.530
[SPEAKER_01]: That's for me, Steve.

01:13:35.915 --> 01:13:40.502
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, if they beat Shota here, I guess I just don't know what else you know what I'm saying.

01:13:40.743 --> 01:13:43.187
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like what it got me out of me.

01:13:43.207 --> 01:13:44.389
[SPEAKER_00]: It has to be usual.

01:13:44.629 --> 01:13:46.011
[SPEAKER_00]: It has to be usual, right?

01:13:46.913 --> 01:13:47.494
[SPEAKER_00]: I hope so.

01:13:47.995 --> 01:13:48.375
[SPEAKER_00]: Me too.

01:13:49.036 --> 01:13:49.377
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

01:13:49.397 --> 01:13:52.682
[SPEAKER_01]: And I feel like it should be like an awesome double power team.

01:13:53.043 --> 01:13:56.308
[SPEAKER_01]: Like a power double team with Shota and Takashi over.

01:13:56.328 --> 01:13:59.734
[SPEAKER_01]: They do something awesome together on one guy and Jay.

01:13:59.754 --> 01:14:01.376
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's just like damn it.

01:14:01.737 --> 01:14:03.019
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm kind of through tomorrow.

01:14:03.691 --> 01:14:04.373
[SPEAKER_00]: I'd be down with that.

01:14:05.095 --> 01:14:07.341
[SPEAKER_00]: After that, we have a 10 man tag.

01:14:07.762 --> 01:14:12.033
[SPEAKER_00]: And that pits unbound company against the United Empire.

01:14:12.494 --> 01:14:14.620
[SPEAKER_00]: And this is the all-skate.

01:14:14.640 --> 01:14:16.405
[SPEAKER_00]: This just gets everybody on the card right here.

01:14:16.425 --> 01:14:17.588
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, drill him a load of you back.

01:14:18.029 --> 01:14:19.573
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, drill us back in there.

01:14:20.650 --> 01:14:25.275
[SPEAKER_00]: And then we have our special single matches.

01:14:25.295 --> 01:14:26.196
[SPEAKER_00]: So, yeah, here we go.

01:14:27.037 --> 01:14:29.160
[SPEAKER_00]: Aaron Wolf against Don Fallet.

01:14:30.341 --> 01:14:32.343
[SPEAKER_00]: This has to be Aaron Wolf winning good lord.

01:14:32.423 --> 01:14:38.270
[SPEAKER_01]: I think that I don't think it should be Aaron Wolf winning the match.

01:14:38.290 --> 01:14:47.400
[SPEAKER_00]: Which makes me wonder about the next one because the next match is never open way championship match that has Renderita in his first defense against Bolton.

01:14:48.545 --> 01:14:54.465
[SPEAKER_00]: I would love to get anything away from Rennerita championship wise because he's just such a mediocrity.

01:14:54.947 --> 01:14:58.740
[SPEAKER_00]: And like you mentioned, both in this is terrific and is really becoming a star.

01:15:00.172 --> 01:15:18.278
[SPEAKER_00]: New Japan's system of win a big singles match and challenge for a title starts to loom large here because if wolf beats fallay then it makes a lot of sense for Narita to cheat and win and have wolf come out and make that challenge for Dominion again, right to get his belt back.

01:15:18.598 --> 01:15:20.060
[SPEAKER_00]: Is that how you're reading the room here a little.

01:15:21.523 --> 01:15:24.627
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, there's also

01:15:25.079 --> 01:15:33.409
[SPEAKER_01]: Bolton is defending one of his titles to Maro and I act to expect him to lose that title to Maro.

01:15:34.050 --> 01:15:38.875
[SPEAKER_01]: So if he were to gain another belt, I'm not ruling it out.

01:15:39.476 --> 01:15:53.533
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, like there's a lot more stock in Bolton having the never owed boy title than Aaron Wolf having the never open way title because right now Aaron Wolf can't sustain even being in a single smash all that much and

01:15:54.256 --> 01:16:03.290
[SPEAKER_01]: And so I'm kind of okay, a bolt and ol' egg wins the never openweight title and wins the strong title.

01:16:03.390 --> 01:16:09.819
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think there are a lot of render readers going to BS's way to work winning this.

01:16:09.980 --> 01:16:11.862
[SPEAKER_01]: And there's a 50, 50 shot that he does.

01:16:12.563 --> 01:16:22.238
[SPEAKER_01]: But I have talked myself into a possibility that because he's probably dropping one of his two titles tomorrow, not the strong openweight title.

01:16:22.522 --> 01:16:25.456
[SPEAKER_00]: Where's that title machine place?

01:16:25.476 --> 01:16:29.595
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, definitely have the, I guess we'll offer a and.

01:16:29.778 --> 01:16:31.761
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, the trio's titles, that's on night, too.

01:16:32.201 --> 01:16:33.363
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's what I think, the next day.

01:16:33.383 --> 01:16:34.425
[SPEAKER_01]: OK, pardon me, pardon me, pardon me, pardon me.

01:16:34.445 --> 01:16:35.226
[SPEAKER_01]: He got that match.

01:16:35.426 --> 01:16:37.789
[SPEAKER_00]: He said tomorrow, and the next day.

01:16:37.850 --> 01:16:40.273
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, we're talking about the preview of Night 1.

01:16:40.293 --> 01:16:42.556
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, he was talking about the day after that.

01:16:42.656 --> 01:16:43.297
[SPEAKER_00]: That is tomorrow.

01:16:43.397 --> 01:16:44.078
[SPEAKER_01]: I understand for now.

01:16:44.779 --> 01:16:45.480
[SPEAKER_01]: I apologize.

01:16:45.761 --> 01:16:54.033
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, no, I'm looking at this, like, he looked very complicated guy and turned to what title he holding and the kind of the musical chairs.

01:16:54.553 --> 01:16:56.376
[SPEAKER_01]: And they're keeping him strong.

01:16:56.356 --> 01:17:00.222
[SPEAKER_01]: And if it were me, I'd put the title on him over Aaron Wolf.

01:17:01.404 --> 01:17:02.466
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I agree with you.

01:17:02.586 --> 01:17:05.872
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just kind of reading the T-Leaves, the New Japan T-Leaves on this one.

01:17:05.892 --> 01:17:15.327
[SPEAKER_01]: But if Rennerita maintained and then went and dropped it to Aaron Wolf after Aaron Wolf beat Falle, make perfect set in the world.

01:17:16.268 --> 01:17:18.731
[SPEAKER_00]: After that, we have the global heavyweight title match.

01:17:18.811 --> 01:17:21.174
[SPEAKER_00]: Again, the supposed to be Gabe Kid, Gabe Kid was injured.

01:17:21.214 --> 01:17:23.236
[SPEAKER_00]: So it was on Draw Day, El Idleau stepping in.

01:17:23.276 --> 01:17:25.999
[SPEAKER_00]: The good news is, the last time these two recently, there was a terrific match.

01:17:26.600 --> 01:17:28.882
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'd mention that this one will be as well.

01:17:29.243 --> 01:17:33.728
[SPEAKER_00]: Yota Suji defending his fourth defense of the global title against on Draw Day, El Idleau.

01:17:34.569 --> 01:17:40.015
[SPEAKER_00]: And as much as it would further emasculate Yota Suji to lose this here,

01:17:39.995 --> 01:17:46.824
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I can't discount it, and especially with a forbidden door type of show coming up in the relatively near future.

01:17:46.884 --> 01:17:58.859
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm hoping sushi wins not because I dislike Andre, Andre, Andre, I like Andre, but for Yota Suji's sake, I hope he doesn't lose it, but this can go either way.

01:18:00.942 --> 01:18:08.972
[SPEAKER_01]: The reality is he always needed to drop this title because he's a world title contender not a global title contender for.

01:18:09.492 --> 01:18:22.371
[SPEAKER_01]: And so it always had to be a guy that you're looking at and it's like, yeah, I could see him beating go to sushi on a given day, rather than it being a fluke and then draw a chest off all of those boxes.

01:18:22.912 --> 01:18:32.867
[SPEAKER_01]: You watch their last match and you know to suit you barely beat him and they had their respect and you know, yeah, to throw that out the window because, you know, storyline dictated it and and draw it basically ethered him.

01:18:33.640 --> 01:18:40.267
[SPEAKER_01]: But Androna would be a great global champion for New Japan, carrying that belt around in AEW.

01:18:40.367 --> 01:18:46.753
[SPEAKER_01]: I could see them kind of doing New Japan matches on the lead up to for Bindor with Androna there.

01:18:47.274 --> 01:19:03.630
[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't necessarily think that, you know, the Fuji of the guy that's going to challenge him at for Bindor, it could be somebody else just to kind of give the rub kind

01:19:05.669 --> 01:19:29.938
[SPEAKER_01]: There are only a few guys that should really get that global title and winning that title for Bindor in the United States, San Jose, California, rather than in Japan, in front of the Japanese audience, like, show to Umano or you, you remember who never really had a single title

01:19:30.290 --> 01:19:42.067
[SPEAKER_01]: You could go in a lot of directions, but go to Fuji getting that doing a program, just go to Fuji, you could get the title back, just leave it like it's counterintuitive to keeping you to Fuji looking strong.

01:19:42.908 --> 01:19:49.277
[SPEAKER_00]: And run a versus Jack Curry yet for been to our friends and both of them, gosh.

01:19:50.185 --> 01:19:54.291
[SPEAKER_00]: In Jeremy or is saying, forgive me, I'm feeling like I don't understand something when I watch shows lately.

01:19:54.331 --> 01:19:57.296
[SPEAKER_00]: I thought I did have to rest looking at what's that Jeremy will try to help you out.

01:19:57.917 --> 01:19:59.179
[SPEAKER_00]: What don't why aren't you understanding.

01:19:59.559 --> 01:20:11.417
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, so that is night one and then we're going to move on to night two and that is going to be the fourth actually Jeremy I was looking at this Pacific time this show starts at 11 o'clock on Sunday night.

01:20:12.697 --> 01:20:13.518
[SPEAKER_00]: You're so good man.

01:20:14.399 --> 01:20:17.083
[SPEAKER_01]: I may actually be up to watch your show and I'll tell you why.

01:20:17.103 --> 01:20:18.164
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that's right.

01:20:18.325 --> 01:20:31.542
[SPEAKER_01]: I was hanging out with the wife and I was like, hey, would you like to go to the drive in and go see the devil worth product to on Sunday day?

01:20:31.622 --> 01:20:35.768
[SPEAKER_01]: And before I could even finish, Stephen, the answer was yes.

01:20:36.811 --> 01:20:39.034
[SPEAKER_01]: And so she's like, I was going to go see it myself.

01:20:39.054 --> 01:20:40.736
[SPEAKER_01]: And I've seen the original devil with Prada.

01:20:40.756 --> 01:20:41.677
[SPEAKER_01]: I got to get in the game.

01:20:41.697 --> 01:20:42.858
[SPEAKER_01]: I want to see what the game's up to.

01:20:43.379 --> 01:20:45.361
[SPEAKER_01]: So I decided I'm going to see it.

01:20:45.782 --> 01:20:48.345
[SPEAKER_01]: But the point is, I'm going to get home like 1030.

01:20:48.945 --> 01:20:50.607
[SPEAKER_01]: The show starts in 11.

01:20:51.208 --> 01:20:57.135
[SPEAKER_01]: If I'm feeling a little spicy, maybe I stay up and watch a little bit of this show before I go to bed, the world is my sister.

01:20:57.496 --> 01:20:59.578
[SPEAKER_01]: I could be able, I could be able to watch a little life.

01:20:59.913 --> 01:21:04.424
[SPEAKER_00]: I think we're probably going to see the movie to within the next week or so we're going to see devil or spread out.

01:21:04.444 --> 01:21:05.887
[SPEAKER_01]: Just took a vibe to it, right?

01:21:05.907 --> 01:21:06.509
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, there is.

01:21:06.589 --> 01:21:12.623
[SPEAKER_00]: If you feel like a big deal, then I mean, to me Emily Blanton and half a way or two or the more likable.

01:21:12.923 --> 01:21:13.644
[SPEAKER_00]: movie stars.

01:21:13.664 --> 01:21:16.306
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, like Merrill Street, I don't know if you've kind of a legend.

01:21:17.187 --> 01:21:17.627
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, sure.

01:21:17.707 --> 01:21:19.689
[SPEAKER_00]: No, I just mean like Anne Hathaway and Emily Blunt.

01:21:19.709 --> 01:21:20.450
[SPEAKER_00]: You're just like together.

01:21:20.510 --> 01:21:22.932
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I like to see them bounce off each other again.

01:21:22.972 --> 01:21:25.374
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's the first one was a lot of fun.

01:21:25.394 --> 01:21:27.756
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, I'm probably going to see that one too.

01:21:27.776 --> 01:21:27.876
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:21:27.896 --> 01:21:34.382
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, night two in Fukuoka is starts off with Mastory Yacida and Tyson Nakahara.

01:21:34.562 --> 01:21:37.745
[SPEAKER_00]: It did not occur to me until they set it out loud.

01:21:37.805 --> 01:21:42.930
[SPEAKER_00]: And then I guess I kind of reflected, but Mastory Yacida is the

01:21:42.910 --> 01:21:50.562
[SPEAKER_00]: And of course, this twin brother is wrestling with the low strength kilos over for Noah.

01:21:51.643 --> 01:21:52.725
[SPEAKER_00]: So, Ty say knock a heart.

01:21:53.145 --> 01:21:55.890
[SPEAKER_00]: So, looking for his first win over Yasada, don't think it's going to come here.

01:21:55.930 --> 01:21:56.931
[SPEAKER_00]: You know how these things work.

01:21:56.951 --> 01:22:00.497
[SPEAKER_00]: There's a strict hierarchy with those young lions.

01:22:03.040 --> 01:22:07.127
[SPEAKER_01]: After that, anything to add, you've got not paying attention to the young lions as much as I should right now.

01:22:07.147 --> 01:22:08.749
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm just going to own it on that one.

01:22:09.050 --> 01:22:10.874
[SPEAKER_00]: Nakahara is getting better.

01:22:10.894 --> 01:22:12.878
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, but right now, he's still so young.

01:22:12.938 --> 01:22:20.453
[SPEAKER_00]: He only has the, he's only allowed to do a handful of moves, whereas Yasada has a much wider move set allowed to him now.

01:22:20.493 --> 01:22:21.495
[SPEAKER_00]: You know how that works.

01:22:21.515 --> 01:22:24.221
[SPEAKER_00]: They kind of roll moves out gradually.

01:22:24.241 --> 01:22:29.151
[SPEAKER_00]: And Nakahara is still in a very basic set at the moment, learning the fundamentals.

01:22:29.131 --> 01:22:35.924
[SPEAKER_00]: New Japan World TV Championship match is the the first match that other were the young line match started to kick off match.

01:22:35.964 --> 01:22:39.390
[SPEAKER_00]: So going to open up with Kenosuke Takeshta and Chase Owens.

01:22:40.051 --> 01:22:40.793
[SPEAKER_00]: Chase Owens wins.

01:22:40.813 --> 01:22:41.294
[SPEAKER_00]: We riot.

01:22:41.735 --> 01:22:41.935
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

01:22:43.658 --> 01:22:48.928
[SPEAKER_01]: I should think you give about the idea of Takeshina not being able to put this guy away in 15 minutes.

01:22:50.495 --> 01:23:03.012
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, I mean, it's got to be it's just it's just sad a little bit that you've got to catch there with three TV title matches and they're against Chase and you drove this is a thank you for trickling, you know, you came in.

01:23:03.112 --> 01:23:04.274
[SPEAKER_01]: He's been doing some work.

01:23:04.794 --> 01:23:10.282
[SPEAKER_01]: He's not getting paid all that much, you know, I get why he's getting the match.

01:23:10.862 --> 01:23:12.645
[SPEAKER_01]: I get why it's happening.

01:23:12.665 --> 01:23:14.167
[SPEAKER_01]: I get all of it.

01:23:14.207 --> 01:23:16.570
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just a little bit after it's like, hey, man.

01:23:17.258 --> 01:23:17.821
[SPEAKER_01]: Appreciate it.

01:23:18.023 --> 01:23:20.196
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't expect him to win if he does.

01:23:20.558 --> 01:23:24.180
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, it'll be a spicy show on Thursday.

01:23:24.818 --> 01:23:26.641
[SPEAKER_00]: So Jeremy Orr has clarified his question.

01:23:26.661 --> 01:23:29.305
[SPEAKER_00]: He just said, I'm not sure who they want to push.

01:23:29.405 --> 01:23:30.727
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe different booking style.

01:23:31.107 --> 01:23:36.195
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I think they need a different booking style, first of all, Jeremy, but the answer is don't think anyone knows who they want to push.

01:23:36.776 --> 01:23:37.637
[SPEAKER_00]: Including them, maybe.

01:23:38.138 --> 01:23:42.905
[SPEAKER_00]: I think they want to get Kalm Newman over as the new top foreign heel.

01:23:43.125 --> 01:23:47.171
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that's their priority right now is get Kalm Newman over as the new top foreign heel.

01:23:47.371 --> 01:23:51.838
[SPEAKER_00]: I think we'll get to that when we get to Chicago to California's match later.

01:23:51.818 --> 01:23:55.905
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, one of the biggest problems is they don't seem focused at all.

01:23:56.326 --> 01:24:09.167
[SPEAKER_00]: And I wonder sometimes if there is a plan, especially when it came to what they did with Yota Sushi just now, where it seemed for all the world like they had finally picked a guy and now it turns out they haven't.

01:24:10.429 --> 01:24:11.972
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm not sure who they want to push.

01:24:12.232 --> 01:24:15.297
[SPEAKER_00]: I aside from Calum Newman, I don't think they know either.

01:24:15.678 --> 01:24:18.062
[SPEAKER_00]: And they seem to be fumbling around.

01:24:18.042 --> 01:24:19.669
[SPEAKER_00]: at least that's the perception of it.

01:24:19.810 --> 01:24:24.913
[SPEAKER_00]: If they do know who they want to push, they're doing a very poor job of establishing it.

01:24:26.868 --> 01:24:28.430
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I figure with all that.

01:24:29.070 --> 01:24:31.293
[SPEAKER_01]: I was thinking of what I'm going to do in the graphics, Steven.

01:24:32.093 --> 01:24:32.494
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

01:24:32.514 --> 01:24:41.924
[SPEAKER_01]: To get you to have two very highly anticipated matches in the month of May, one, I can't chase Alan for the New Japan World title.

01:24:42.384 --> 01:24:45.327
[SPEAKER_01]: And the other, at first, who's a good Chicago guy.

01:24:45.948 --> 01:24:50.012
[SPEAKER_01]: He's WTO or nothing in the wrong way to show down.

01:24:50.373 --> 01:24:53.736
[SPEAKER_01]: I wonder which one is going to draw more interest.

01:24:53.716 --> 01:24:54.777
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I can't.

01:24:54.797 --> 01:24:56.179
[SPEAKER_00]: I wonder which one I'd rather see.

01:24:56.539 --> 01:24:57.000
[SPEAKER_00]: Go figure.

01:24:57.780 --> 01:24:58.161
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

01:24:58.201 --> 01:24:58.922
[SPEAKER_00]: Second match here.

01:24:58.982 --> 01:25:02.586
[SPEAKER_00]: Tetsuya Matsumoto and Ryusuke Taguchi against Daikinegai and ghetto.

01:25:03.266 --> 01:25:03.727
[SPEAKER_00]: That's a match.

01:25:04.708 --> 01:25:11.896
[SPEAKER_01]: If a match, it should probably have some bucks stuff versus ghetto and they'll be some comedy.

01:25:11.916 --> 01:25:15.700
[SPEAKER_01]: And I hope Daikinegai gets the shine in the wind.

01:25:17.121 --> 01:25:17.582
[SPEAKER_00]: It'll be nice.

01:25:18.042 --> 01:25:20.685
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think it's going to happen, but I do like that idea.

01:25:21.391 --> 01:25:38.742
[SPEAKER_00]: third match again Oscar and ice against home by an omeno and you know that these are the only guys in the entire company being book correctly Jeremy we just see Oscar and ice winning matches over and over and over again and it just reminds me of when you wanted to make a star

01:25:38.722 --> 01:25:45.991
[SPEAKER_00]: When I was growing up anyway, the way you know that somebody was on the way up is you just saw them win week after week after week.

01:25:46.011 --> 01:25:47.432
[SPEAKER_00]: And show after show after show.

01:25:47.492 --> 01:25:53.499
[SPEAKER_00]: We're watching you to ice and Oscar get pinfall victories and have their hands raised over and over again.

01:25:53.660 --> 01:25:54.781
[SPEAKER_00]: And low would be whole Jeremy.

01:25:55.081 --> 01:25:58.025
[SPEAKER_00]: They just so happen to be the most overact in the company.

01:25:58.205 --> 01:25:59.987
[SPEAKER_00]: It's almost like that works.

01:26:02.110 --> 01:26:06.917
[SPEAKER_01]: Chafing the hot hand and they're good is a good formula.

01:26:07.377 --> 01:26:19.815
[SPEAKER_01]: The one thing I like about this match is that it's getting closer and closer to me toward the match I really want to see which would be show to Umano and Kenosuke Takeshita versus the knockout brothers.

01:26:20.099 --> 01:26:30.356
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, you know, to me, Jeremy, I would even think about waiting on that, because the G1s coming and things, to me, that's a hell of a tag league winner this year.

01:26:30.557 --> 01:26:35.926
[SPEAKER_00]: To catch the aluminum, if you can get them, have them win World Tag League and build that match for us again.

01:26:35.946 --> 01:26:39.832
[SPEAKER_01]: And then you have for a tag league run, but I don't take this away from that year there.

01:26:39.852 --> 01:26:42.597
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't take it right now, I know, I know, but

01:26:42.931 --> 01:26:48.103
[SPEAKER_01]: There are there are other consideration like well the continental class that can wait.

01:26:48.123 --> 01:26:48.544
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.

01:26:48.564 --> 01:26:50.468
[SPEAKER_01]: No, I understand that around that same time.

01:26:50.970 --> 01:26:53.014
[SPEAKER_00]: I can hope, but I would like to see that.

01:26:53.054 --> 01:26:54.899
[SPEAKER_01]: Man, I'm sorry.

01:26:55.600 --> 01:26:58.948
[SPEAKER_00]: What I'm saying is to see them.

01:26:58.928 --> 01:27:08.349
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I guess it's like you said, it's a long shot to actually get to catch there for that tournament, but yeah, I just want to get a one off match that's all like Imagine for the one off match.

01:27:08.509 --> 01:27:15.925
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's imagine if you had to catch an homino winning all these really good world tag league matches, you know,

01:27:15.905 --> 01:27:21.631
[SPEAKER_00]: be shaman and all the other tagged teams Zack and OEW against Takeshita and Umano.

01:27:21.651 --> 01:27:27.037
[SPEAKER_00]: Those matches would be terrific even if you wanted to do Uya and Taichi and all that, you could do stuff like that.

01:27:27.297 --> 01:27:28.338
[SPEAKER_00]: They would have good matches.

01:27:28.378 --> 01:27:29.279
[SPEAKER_00]: They could win the tournament.

01:27:29.299 --> 01:27:31.502
[SPEAKER_00]: There would be a real airment to special.

01:27:31.522 --> 01:27:35.806
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that could be a semi-name at Wrestle Kingdom if it's done correctly.

01:27:35.826 --> 01:27:40.632
[SPEAKER_00]: So why is Hanme in the match to lose it if you're wondering it?

01:27:41.392 --> 01:27:43.735
[SPEAKER_00]: Why is Hanme in that match so that they can pin him?

01:27:43.833 --> 01:27:47.116
[SPEAKER_01]: So he can eat, yeah, that's right.

01:27:47.136 --> 01:27:47.877
[SPEAKER_01]: He could be fed.

01:27:47.917 --> 01:27:49.778
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, next one.

01:27:50.339 --> 01:27:51.740
[SPEAKER_00]: Next one is, there we go.

01:27:51.760 --> 01:27:53.061
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, we've got the all-skate here.

01:27:53.141 --> 01:28:00.828
[SPEAKER_00]: This is Watto and Yo with Tiger Mask, Toriiano and Aaron Wolff against the House of Torture.

01:28:01.589 --> 01:28:12.979
[SPEAKER_01]: With Taka Hashir replacing Dokey in this match, as announced by New Japan, the theme

01:28:14.022 --> 01:28:16.025
[SPEAKER_01]: But no, you're not in this match, Steven.

01:28:16.505 --> 01:28:17.347
[SPEAKER_01]: And we're all this.

01:28:18.228 --> 01:28:18.608
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, there you go.

01:28:19.730 --> 01:28:20.551
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, good point.

01:28:20.811 --> 01:28:22.013
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's a fair point, too.

01:28:22.274 --> 01:28:32.568
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, which kind of, again, makes me really think that Narita is going to cheat the way I think you're right, too.

01:28:32.808 --> 01:28:35.011
[SPEAKER_01]: I think you're right, too, look at that card.

01:28:35.031 --> 01:28:36.153
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, next match, though.

01:28:36.373 --> 01:28:36.994
[SPEAKER_00]: How about this one?

01:28:37.635 --> 01:28:40.519
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, I'll go here for this match, Steven.

01:28:40.820 --> 01:28:56.039
[SPEAKER_00]: Jose Fujida and Robbie Eagles, the one, my boy, Itchamori and Axe, they're one in one A for my favorite tag team and all the wrestling right now, facing Mystico and L. Desperado, Jose Fujida and Eagles versus Mystico and Desperado.

01:28:56.059 --> 01:28:58.482
[SPEAKER_01]: Hell yeah, good down to your head for a ride.

01:28:58.522 --> 01:29:00.204
[SPEAKER_01]: That's that could up taken here right now.

01:29:00.325 --> 01:29:00.685
[SPEAKER_01]: I just,

01:29:01.154 --> 01:29:06.442
[SPEAKER_01]: This is going to be one of those matches that I feel like Dave Belker is going to be after a click.

01:29:06.462 --> 01:29:15.816
[SPEAKER_01]: You need to watch a match on wrestling over radio because no one else is talking about it when there are other matches on the car that will probably get a lot more attention than this one.

01:29:15.836 --> 01:29:19.121
[SPEAKER_01]: But do not skip this match.

01:29:19.141 --> 01:29:20.002
[SPEAKER_00]: No.

01:29:20.022 --> 01:29:25.390
[SPEAKER_00]: After this one, we have Tahichi and you, you are more

01:29:26.298 --> 01:29:27.200
[SPEAKER_01]: We're getting closer.

01:29:27.381 --> 01:29:28.945
[SPEAKER_01]: We're getting closer, just row here.

01:29:28.965 --> 01:29:29.847
[SPEAKER_01]: We win you.

01:29:29.887 --> 01:29:32.093
[SPEAKER_01]: We mirror up, but they just can't give it to us.

01:29:32.133 --> 01:29:34.218
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Steven, they just can't give it to us yet.

01:29:34.800 --> 01:29:40.795
[SPEAKER_01]: And, uh, do you think we'll get another addition of Taiichi smoldering looks when we're all when all thinner and done.

01:29:40.815 --> 01:29:41.497
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I hope so.

01:29:41.618 --> 01:29:42.239
[SPEAKER_00]: I hope so.

01:29:42.259 --> 01:29:43.362
[SPEAKER_00]: I live for that.

01:29:44.337 --> 01:29:46.279
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, after that, we have an eight-person tag.

01:29:46.299 --> 01:29:52.887
[SPEAKER_00]: This is Robbie X, Tahie Gishimori, my other favorite tag team, against Drillamoloni and Yoda Suji.

01:29:52.907 --> 01:29:54.549
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's make sure I get the whole team in there.

01:29:54.769 --> 01:30:02.238
[SPEAKER_00]: So Robbie, Ishimori, Drillamoloni, Yoda Suji, against Zane J, Jacob Austin, Young, Francesco Akira, and Jake Lee.

01:30:02.498 --> 01:30:03.480
[SPEAKER_00]: And no way, how many?

01:30:04.220 --> 01:30:05.061
[SPEAKER_00]: No one tried it.

01:30:05.081 --> 01:30:07.785
[SPEAKER_00]: This match should be pretty darn good, though.

01:30:07.845 --> 01:30:10.648
[SPEAKER_00]: If you look at it as in it, there's nothing wrong with this one.

01:30:11.523 --> 01:30:14.935
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think Jake Lee might be the worst worker in the match.

01:30:15.623 --> 01:30:19.827
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and he'll know what parts of it to do, and what parts not to do.

01:30:19.967 --> 01:30:21.308
[SPEAKER_01]: He'll do what he's planning around, bro.

01:30:21.368 --> 01:30:21.869
[SPEAKER_01]: And it'll be fine.

01:30:22.069 --> 01:30:23.470
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, yes.

01:30:23.490 --> 01:30:25.031
[SPEAKER_00]: But I think he'll get what I mean.

01:30:25.072 --> 01:30:26.573
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like he'll have his spots and things.

01:30:26.593 --> 01:30:28.975
[SPEAKER_00]: But I think he's going to mostly let these guys go.

01:30:29.375 --> 01:30:34.040
[SPEAKER_01]: And so I think he will not be the main driver on that side.

01:30:34.060 --> 01:30:37.283
[SPEAKER_01]: That can be a Kira and Jane J and Jacob Ocking Young.

01:30:37.483 --> 01:30:39.885
[SPEAKER_01]: I think he'll work great on that side.

01:30:39.905 --> 01:30:40.605
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think you're right.

01:30:40.626 --> 01:30:45.630
[SPEAKER_00]: But then I think what little Jake does in the match will probably be entertaining.

01:30:45.610 --> 01:31:10.723
[SPEAKER_00]: So after that, then we have tag team championship match, which will be never openweight six man title, Boltnola Yoshihashi and Hero Kigoto, they are in the third defense against Great O'Con, Henare and Will Osprey, I have my prediction and I am sticking with it Jeremy that this is going to be a title change and that Henare and O'Con are going to do something

01:31:10.703 --> 01:31:12.026
[SPEAKER_00]: Flintshat a little bit.

01:31:12.046 --> 01:31:14.692
[SPEAKER_00]: It's going to be a little cringy for will, but he's going to take the titles.

01:31:15.013 --> 01:31:23.592
[SPEAKER_00]: He's going to stick with his voice, but there's going to be a little that that sideways glance is like, is that really necessary type of thing as will prepares to be eaten by the monster he created.

01:31:25.175 --> 01:31:25.877
[SPEAKER_01]: So,

01:31:26.937 --> 01:31:28.939
[SPEAKER_01]: They're going to want to unpack your with Will Osprey.

01:31:30.500 --> 01:31:45.854
[SPEAKER_01]: He's going to earn AEW and he has come back from the back to tank to wrestle and get his retribution against John Malkley who was the one to blame for sending him to the hospital with neck-bing damage to storyline.

01:31:46.395 --> 01:31:49.898
[SPEAKER_01]: So he goes and faces John Malkley and Dynastie and loses.

01:31:50.478 --> 01:31:56.944
[SPEAKER_01]: And there are all these matches that he is wrestling.

01:31:56.924 --> 01:32:06.715
[SPEAKER_01]: Nearly a healthy as you would believe from a guy who supposedly cleared from getting net territory and if getting your ass kicked over and over and over again.

01:32:07.555 --> 01:32:14.724
[SPEAKER_01]: So about I want to say a week ago we could go and dynamite he has a match with Mark Davis formally of the United Empire.

01:32:15.345 --> 01:32:27.200
[SPEAKER_01]: Now with the countless family and he's wrestling a particularly physical brutal style and uh Mark Davis throws him to the outside somewhat violently and a storyline mode somewhat accidentally.

01:32:27.240 --> 01:32:28.922
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll offer any queries.

01:32:29.022 --> 01:32:30.424
[SPEAKER_01]: I can't feel my arms.

01:32:31.501 --> 01:32:38.933
[SPEAKER_01]: because he's got a stinger and Dr. Samson comes to the side and check on him.

01:32:38.993 --> 01:32:41.797
[SPEAKER_01]: And they stopped the match, Stephen.

01:32:41.817 --> 01:32:44.521
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a rough stoppage for Will Offspray.

01:32:45.182 --> 01:32:57.762
[SPEAKER_01]: And so Will Offspray is somewhat defentless and Mark Davis decides he's gonna finish the job and pile drive him in the middle of the ring and the threat of Will Offspray works in for all, in which

01:32:59.463 --> 01:33:09.311
[SPEAKER_01]: The death writers, including John Mothley, who crippled him and sent him to the hospital in the first place, come to his aid, intimidate Mark Davis and putting him down.

01:33:10.213 --> 01:33:14.485
[SPEAKER_01]: Claudio Carrives, a lifeless will offer a toothy back.

01:33:14.465 --> 01:33:16.948
[SPEAKER_01]: and we don't see him at all for the rest of this dynamite.

01:33:17.008 --> 01:33:43.780
[SPEAKER_01]: However, the net segment on this dynamite was an interview by Renee Pequette, who is John Malkley's wife, interviewing Alec Winger about an upcoming title opportunity, completely ignoring anything that just happened between the two men's husband and which one of them took the lifeless body and it's

01:33:43.760 --> 01:33:49.028
[SPEAKER_01]: surgical repairs to fuse her needed dis on its deck.

01:33:49.109 --> 01:33:50.491
[SPEAKER_01]: I wouldn't think of the collision.

01:33:50.872 --> 01:33:58.644
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, I would think that Alex would at least be curious with, hey, Renee, they're all John and ask where we'll speak.

01:33:58.664 --> 01:33:59.225
[SPEAKER_00]: Good map too.

01:34:00.187 --> 01:34:01.408
[SPEAKER_00]: No, I don't have time for that, sir.

01:34:01.709 --> 01:34:02.470
[SPEAKER_01]: We get to collision.

01:34:03.031 --> 01:34:12.927
[SPEAKER_01]: And we get a match and the next segment it's immediately going to the back after the events of Dynamite and which even the announcement had no idea what happened to Walsh Gray.

01:34:12.947 --> 01:34:16.973
[SPEAKER_01]: But somebody did because they filmed a segment

01:34:16.953 --> 01:34:25.947
[SPEAKER_01]: Will Osprey sit down with John Monkley in an undetermined area of the arena and John Monkley to explain to him, you've got a death wish.

01:34:26.608 --> 01:34:35.382
[SPEAKER_01]: You are running into a wall over and over and over again when you don't realize they're the door that you can go through and which you can be anything that you want to be.

01:34:36.123 --> 01:34:44.817
[SPEAKER_01]: So what we have in John Monkley is the ruthless, tweener, senpai, sente say, character,

01:34:45.556 --> 01:34:47.820
[SPEAKER_01]: Offering to Teach Will Offspray.

01:34:49.032 --> 01:34:51.756
[SPEAKER_01]: how to be a winner without killing yourself.

01:34:51.776 --> 01:34:59.667
[SPEAKER_01]: Because he's in Wolosbury, how special he is, how special he is in the years ago, and he doesn't want this guy to die.

01:35:00.128 --> 01:35:08.679
[SPEAKER_01]: Even though he helped kill him in the birthplace years ago, Wolosbury is incredulous that this entire thing.

01:35:09.100 --> 01:35:13.326
[SPEAKER_01]: Until John says, you could take me up on my offer or you could take a chair to me right now.

01:35:13.787 --> 01:35:17.672
[SPEAKER_01]: And then John Mockley kisses the ground

01:35:18.091 --> 01:35:24.807
[SPEAKER_01]: Give will the opportunity to chair him and the will so get out of my face, turn off the camera, we don't see what happens.

01:35:25.509 --> 01:35:30.902
[SPEAKER_01]: And then we get to dynamite this past week where it appears that will have not killed John Malksley.

01:35:32.418 --> 01:35:38.208
[SPEAKER_01]: and John Moffleys with the death writers, including Pock, and will offer you, like, I'm here to learn.

01:35:38.749 --> 01:35:43.377
[SPEAKER_01]: John Moffleys, so pleased by this that I'm not kidding to you, Stephen.

01:35:43.938 --> 01:35:53.194
[SPEAKER_01]: He poked Pock in the belly, like he's a proud coach that he's just got the star player to agree to, you know, the net season.

01:35:53.174 --> 01:36:07.360
[SPEAKER_01]: And so now you've got Will Offspray and they explained that Will's got this match with the United Empire and Trump's like, all right, I'll teach you what you need to know and you'll come back and you'll do everything.

01:36:07.380 --> 01:36:10.947
[SPEAKER_01]: So after all of this, if you don't come back and win.

01:36:11.399 --> 01:36:18.268
[SPEAKER_01]: When a belt based off of the guided to the death writers, this entire story line in AEW meaning nothing.

01:36:18.968 --> 01:36:24.435
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's the guy that's there building up to the future world championship with a one-a guide John Montzley.

01:36:24.455 --> 01:36:29.522
[SPEAKER_01]: So this is like the alpha story of alpha stories that they got going on building off in the background.

01:36:30.022 --> 01:36:41.136
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's all about how Willow spray the loser and the only guy that can help him win is the guy that beat him in the first place.

01:36:41.588 --> 01:36:42.910
[SPEAKER_00]: Booker of the Year ladies and gentlemen.

01:36:43.471 --> 01:36:48.619
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, going on here, but I don't think that there is going to be an aspect of killer instinct.

01:36:49.059 --> 01:37:01.478
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if I approved of this because they have to offer everything that you saw in AEW will offer, should be coming in here and having like the same killer instinct as the rest of the guys.

01:37:01.898 --> 01:37:01.999
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

01:37:02.019 --> 01:37:02.780
[SPEAKER_01]: That's all you got, right?

01:37:02.820 --> 01:37:03.681
[SPEAKER_01]: That, okay.

01:37:05.365 --> 01:37:06.107
[SPEAKER_00]: That's all I got.

01:37:06.769 --> 01:37:07.592
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:37:07.953 --> 01:37:08.776
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, yeah.

01:37:09.157 --> 01:37:09.357
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:37:09.377 --> 01:37:10.260
[SPEAKER_01]: They're going to win too.

01:37:10.441 --> 01:37:12.848
[SPEAKER_01]: And we're heading quickly to work for Bindor.

01:37:13.370 --> 01:37:13.831
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:37:13.891 --> 01:37:18.987
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I mean, issue with Moxley and Osprey, rather, is they gave.

01:37:19.338 --> 01:37:23.201
[SPEAKER_00]: what should have been four or five months of story away in like two weeks.

01:37:23.401 --> 01:37:36.553
[SPEAKER_00]: Like the whole idea of him coming back, him, someone going after the neck again, that should have started a feud that, you know, like the whole, it all, they blew it all in one week for this silly, semi thing that makes no sense.

01:37:36.573 --> 01:37:42.138
[SPEAKER_01]: And a lot of people like their 10-pilot and co-pilot right now, go high.

01:37:42.238 --> 01:37:45.040
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, all right, no, no, it's close enough.

01:37:45.060 --> 01:37:48.383
[SPEAKER_01]: And I could have said it like you could have correct me and there was,

01:37:49.460 --> 01:37:51.082
[SPEAKER_00]: Hi, Japanese lessons are coming along nicely.

01:37:51.162 --> 01:37:55.586
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, next we have the main event of the show, which is the IWGP Heavyweight Championship.

01:37:55.646 --> 01:37:58.489
[SPEAKER_00]: We have Kalimnum and defending against Shingo Takagi.

01:37:58.549 --> 01:38:11.841
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, I think this is going to be a retention because they want to make Kalimnum and but with this company right now and it's pension for saying, well, that one win is enough.

01:38:12.362 --> 01:38:13.943
[SPEAKER_00]: Now we can 50, 50 book them.

01:38:14.043 --> 01:38:19.028
[SPEAKER_00]: You can't put anything out of the question.

01:38:19.008 --> 01:38:25.875
[SPEAKER_00]: I think Newman is going to win, but I would not, uh, I've no doubt that Newman is winning.

01:38:25.895 --> 01:38:30.981
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it feels like he is, but if they decide to go into Dominion, was Shingo as a champion, I'm fine with that, too.

01:38:31.461 --> 01:38:39.149
[SPEAKER_01]: At this point, with my fifth guy, no, I haven't even beat former World Champion, and they don't have a lot of World Champion left.

01:38:39.170 --> 01:38:39.810
[SPEAKER_00]: No, I know.

01:38:39.830 --> 01:38:46.197
[SPEAKER_00]: But it's just strange to me to go into Dominion with Newman as champion, just so,

01:38:47.240 --> 01:38:53.867
[SPEAKER_00]: they've made that fabulous and then this match isn't going to quite a establish him yet either, but going into the meeting, let's see, it's good, they're bad.

01:38:54.648 --> 01:38:58.813
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, I can't, I keep saying this and it sounds like I'm crapping on Newman.

01:38:58.833 --> 01:39:00.255
[SPEAKER_00]: Newman's a really talented guy.

01:39:00.535 --> 01:39:01.276
[SPEAKER_00]: I really like him.

01:39:01.816 --> 01:39:11.047
[SPEAKER_00]: It's, it's not, he's not, he's just not established quite okay, I suppose the only way to establish them, though, is to beat guys with credibility and this is a step in that direction.

01:39:11.247 --> 01:39:16.673
[SPEAKER_00]: But going on national television with him is the champions of gutsy, either gutsy

01:39:17.598 --> 01:39:18.259
[SPEAKER_01]: Here's the deal, Benz.

01:39:19.021 --> 01:39:20.284
[SPEAKER_01]: Night one, I've been talking.

01:39:20.965 --> 01:39:21.346
[SPEAKER_01]: Made of Ed.

01:39:23.871 --> 01:39:24.292
[SPEAKER_01]: Night two.

01:39:26.977 --> 01:39:35.996
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, okay, so you're talking about, you know, like you look at one, you have Yoda, Sujina, and Draude is the night one made of Ed, and you have Schinger, Tagging, and Cal, and Newman is the night two.

01:39:36.878 --> 01:39:38.982
[SPEAKER_01]: I think the night one made of Ed is a bigger made of Ed.

01:39:39.940 --> 01:39:40.521
[SPEAKER_00]: Hmm.

01:39:40.541 --> 01:39:42.503
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, you think so?

01:39:42.523 --> 01:39:59.484
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but I don't think Shingo has been booked at the level to be looking like a strong challenger and then draw it as a super hot champion, you know, uh, Yoda Fuji unfortunately is more a style of champion as the global champion than Calenuma and it is the IWGP champion.

01:39:59.985 --> 01:40:09.677
[SPEAKER_01]: This is all to cement him in some ways, which you find, but unfortunately that does not

01:40:10.383 --> 01:40:11.524
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

01:40:11.544 --> 01:40:13.987
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, we will have both of those shows to talk about next week.

01:40:14.007 --> 01:40:18.092
[SPEAKER_00]: By the way, there's also another show in Saga on May 6th I mentioned earlier too.

01:40:18.613 --> 01:40:23.578
[SPEAKER_00]: That one is so far, it's set to stream on NJPW world as well.

01:40:23.999 --> 01:40:33.089
[SPEAKER_00]: But we don't have a card for it because for K-Faib reasons, of course, they're not going to tell us what that is until after Don't Talk Who, because K-Faib, we don't know who the champions and challenges are in blah, blah, blah, blah, right?

01:40:33.109 --> 01:40:36.894
[SPEAKER_00]: So we will see what that card entails at a later date.

01:40:36.914 --> 01:40:37.234
[SPEAKER_00]: But let's

01:40:37.214 --> 01:40:39.220
[SPEAKER_00]: main focus next week will be on don't talk it.

01:40:39.561 --> 01:40:47.021
[SPEAKER_00]: Also, I am going to be working on my biography of Tiger Mask 4 as he heads toward retirement.

01:40:47.062 --> 01:40:49.187
[SPEAKER_00]: We will look back at his career.

01:40:49.769 --> 01:40:52.978
[SPEAKER_00]: And I mentioned last week by the way, Jeremy, that

01:40:52.958 --> 01:41:12.908
[SPEAKER_00]: If you go back to him about 20 years ago when he was first coming into New Japan, the things you would see that he was athletic and exciting and all that, they even put up a match against Juschen Thunder Lager from 2009 at Rio Goku Kukukuhu Kukukuhu Khan, a junior heavyweight title match between Tiger Mask and Lager and it's terrific.

01:41:12.888 --> 01:41:13.609
[SPEAKER_00]: It's really good match.

01:41:13.950 --> 01:41:16.474
[SPEAKER_00]: And it shows a little bit about what he was about there.

01:41:17.115 --> 01:41:25.369
[SPEAKER_00]: And I encourage people to go back and watch that was on the little ribbon that comes up on the bottom of the screen, you know, recently promoted stuff.

01:41:25.429 --> 01:41:28.574
[SPEAKER_00]: It's been on NJPW World for a while, but you know what I'm talking about.

01:41:28.594 --> 01:41:30.998
[SPEAKER_00]: They have a little ribbon on the on the app.

01:41:31.535 --> 01:41:37.181
[SPEAKER_00]: And sometimes they throw old matches up there when somebody either retires or passes away.

01:41:37.221 --> 01:41:39.663
[SPEAKER_00]: In some cases, but this one, they did put that one up.

01:41:39.703 --> 01:41:50.334
[SPEAKER_00]: I hope we get to see more of that because I would like people that have only known tiger masks for the last 10 years so to see the young athletic version of him, because he was pretty good.

01:41:50.354 --> 01:41:51.015
[SPEAKER_00]: He was pretty good.

01:41:51.135 --> 01:41:53.797
[SPEAKER_00]: And we're going to be talking about his career, too, as we go on.

01:41:53.817 --> 01:41:54.598
[SPEAKER_00]: So that'll be next week.

01:41:55.319 --> 01:41:57.441
[SPEAKER_00]: Don't talk over to you and that.

01:41:57.421 --> 01:41:57.862
[SPEAKER_00]: Go ahead.

01:41:57.882 --> 01:42:21.403
[SPEAKER_01]: Real quick before we go today, uh, when I turned off, uh, the Rocher to talk or show yesterday, I turned on YouTube, and I saw that there was a new Japan Academy, third anniversary showcase that had dropped that was about two hours that was filmed back in March, March 21st of this past year, and I watched it, and it was fine.

01:42:21.620 --> 01:42:24.745
[SPEAKER_01]: There were a couple of things, and there I'll just read through the results really quick.

01:42:24.765 --> 01:42:28.591
[SPEAKER_01]: If you were a nice name, you can talk about it, but it would just whatever.

01:42:29.092 --> 01:42:42.052
[SPEAKER_01]: Clay Cutler defeated Bastion Incident, Johnny Robbie, who you might be familiar with, defeated PJ Laura, which is a woman voodoo gimmick that, oops, fine.

01:42:42.713 --> 01:42:48.302
[SPEAKER_01]: We had a tag team match after that, which was movie, Mike, and Ray

01:42:48.282 --> 01:42:49.384
[SPEAKER_01]: and Luther King.

01:42:49.885 --> 01:42:53.532
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't know any of these guys, but I will tell you this danger rock has a look to him.

01:42:53.953 --> 01:42:56.238
[SPEAKER_01]: He's kind of got 25 years old.

01:42:56.719 --> 01:43:08.923
[SPEAKER_01]: He's got like the ultimate warrior kind of gear with the around the arm and the frills around the boot, kind of a kind of a

01:43:09.646 --> 01:43:15.452
[SPEAKER_01]: Carrie Vaughn Eric kind of build really really got a good look for him 25 year old out in New York.

01:43:16.312 --> 01:43:18.514
[SPEAKER_01]: Guy that you want to look out for it and after that.

01:43:19.455 --> 01:43:24.260
[SPEAKER_01]: We had Cordelle defeating Giovanni C, which it was fine.

01:43:25.161 --> 01:43:37.693
[SPEAKER_01]: Cordelle kind of looked like a journey small way and that's what my wife said when the guy who got arrested for faking and I don't know I know exactly if you like that random like that's a little click to me.

01:43:37.713 --> 01:43:39.214
[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, okay.

01:43:39.194 --> 01:43:57.052
[SPEAKER_01]: After that, Casey Ferrara defeated Ana Tamagi and then the sun of sting Steve Borden teamed with Alan Breeze and they defeated Hit and Vin Parker in a near 20-minute match in which Steve Borden got a plan to get the win.

01:43:57.112 --> 01:44:00.515
[SPEAKER_01]: Really good in all honesty.

01:44:02.056 --> 01:44:05.640
[SPEAKER_01]: I kind of watched him

01:44:06.194 --> 01:44:11.623
[SPEAKER_01]: can this guy go and he's incredibly green, but there's something there, man, definitely worth checking out with him.

01:44:11.683 --> 01:44:25.725
[SPEAKER_01]: And then the, uh, the main event was a strong survivor match in which Raymond Bright defeated CJ Kino, who had, uh, defeated Matt Vandergriss, a while back, no Matt Vandergriss on the show, no idea what was going on with him.

01:44:26.286 --> 01:44:27.308
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah,

01:44:27.288 --> 01:44:34.434
[SPEAKER_01]: All the normal New Japan strong referees and all the people, Fred Ross is still coaching for them over there.

01:44:35.035 --> 01:44:37.337
[SPEAKER_01]: So the whole deal, man, the main event went way too long.

01:44:38.658 --> 01:44:49.988
[SPEAKER_01]: They did 15 minutes and then it went for a double pin and then Fred Ross did the this match about to continue and so really took it Self-release seriously for what about to do a new trend in the show.

01:44:50.888 --> 01:44:51.369
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

01:44:51.449 --> 01:44:52.750
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's available on YouTube.

01:44:52.770 --> 01:44:54.211
[SPEAKER_01]: You said yes.

01:44:54.291 --> 01:44:56.113
[SPEAKER_01]: Did you plan channel right there?

01:44:56.785 --> 01:44:57.306
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

01:44:57.346 --> 01:45:00.371
[SPEAKER_00]: So with that in mind, we're going to wrap things up for this week.

01:45:00.391 --> 01:45:02.995
[SPEAKER_00]: I want to thank everybody who joined us here live Jeremy or Colin.

01:45:03.535 --> 01:45:04.677
[SPEAKER_00]: And well, let's see.

01:45:04.697 --> 01:45:05.759
[SPEAKER_00]: We had Maria was there.

01:45:05.799 --> 01:45:06.360
[SPEAKER_00]: That's a bond.

01:45:06.380 --> 01:45:06.941
[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you very much.

01:45:07.001 --> 01:45:08.543
[SPEAKER_00]: USVA guy, glad you were here with us.

01:45:08.824 --> 01:45:09.825
[SPEAKER_00]: Rib shot was in there.

01:45:09.925 --> 01:45:14.372
[SPEAKER_00]: So I want to thank everybody who joined us live those of you who joined us later on.

01:45:14.352 --> 01:45:17.940
[SPEAKER_00]: Or as a podcast, we're grateful to you and we'll be back next week.

01:45:17.960 --> 01:45:19.865
[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to talk about, uh, don't talk to you.

01:45:19.945 --> 01:45:23.072
[SPEAKER_00]: So I hope everybody enjoys their week and enjoy golden week.

01:45:23.273 --> 01:45:24.335
[SPEAKER_00]: Catch a few other shows.

01:45:24.375 --> 01:45:25.498
[SPEAKER_00]: Lots going on right now.

01:45:25.558 --> 01:45:27.683
[SPEAKER_00]: So for Jeremy Feinstein, I'm Steven Conway.

01:45:28.004 --> 01:45:29.367
[SPEAKER_00]: This has been speaking of strong style.

01:45:29.427 --> 01:45:31.011
[SPEAKER_00]: We will talk to you again real soon.