NJPW Title Status Check Plus Who from AEW Should Be at Wrestle Kingdom | Speaking of Strong Style

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[SPEAKER_01]: New Japan pro wrestling is taking its annual post G1 break from live events, letting the guys heal up and prepare for the road to destruction tour.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Most of the attention was on the G1 and the excellent final, of course.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But several other things happened in Sumo Hall that tipped the soft on the direction of the other titles in the company.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Today we'll look at each of those titles and what's next for them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Plus, more on 10 Zonas, we wrap up our look back at his legendary career, which I'm Stephen Conway.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is Speaking of Strong Style.

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[SPEAKER_01]: welcome everyone speaking of strong style we discuss the new musicians and events surrounding New Japan pro wrestling we're contributors to the fight game media network and it has been a strange week here we don't have any shows no new Japan shows to discuss I had plenty of shows to watch believe me I was catching up on everything but you know a lot of said news this week Jeremy we lost Dali Parton

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[SPEAKER_01]: which is I'm having a harder time with and I thought I'm always been a fan of hers but hearing more about her humanitarian work is really brought home just as much of a loss it is but you know it's just been a week where we've had several people that I like pass away and I've been catching up on shows it's been strange this last time we were here how have you been are you all right

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[SPEAKER_00]: Brother, you're telling me from the spectrum of entertainment.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We have lost Dalai Parton, who is, there's never going to be another Dalai Parton.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There will never be an individual with the grace and access to reach everyone, and able to do it so privately.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, everything is under such scrutiny nowadays that all of her, all of her humanitarian efforts that are coming to light.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's going to be really stunning to see what a truthful answer pissed is because we have a lot of people in this world more than I'd like to that I'm comfortable with with unbelievable amount of money who simply do not want to spend the money helping us.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And she will not like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that's going to make her stand out more than anything more than, you know, just a little whorehouse in Texas more than work in

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[SPEAKER_00]: more than all the things that she've known for.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I tip my cap to die part, you know, growing up and saying, oh, die part and whatever, blah, blah, blah, like the older I got, she's like Betty Whiteman, she was just, she was a treasure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then we lost Tim Curry, who prolific actor of voice, screen, stage, theater.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think most people know from clue, you know,

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[SPEAKER_00]: CW shows.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, you know, the the big one, Rocky Horror.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Come on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was going to get there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, rock your picture show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He really bummed me out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like him passing away was just one of those like kind of like Alan Rickman.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're like, oh man, you want to, you want to, you want to, you want to the actors that just made everything better.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, like everything he was in, he just he elevated just by insisting in it and

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[SPEAKER_00]: Big fan of him, and then you had a question mark about this one, but here Colin died.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And for a generation of people, he was the voice of Optimus Prime, the Transformers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he was a voice that taught you from right and wrong and how to be strong while being gentle.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, come some of those lessons that, you know, strength, some kind, require a gentle touch rather than all the other thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, it's not a great week for people that you admire, you know, there are, I don't wish anyone dead, but they're to list the people in their 80s right now that are wreaking havoc on this world.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Then, you know, it's just really it's kind of unfair that, you know, the roulette wheel chose these people instead of those.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It is what it is, and if there are other people that are celebrities that have had an impact on you, or whatnot, I just might condolves it to you because, and it becomes a bummer, bummer for all that stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and you know, when looking at the Dalai Parton thing, of course, a lot of people do know about the imagination library, it's a charity that her foundation ran where you would sign up and you would get your child would get sent an age appropriate book.

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[SPEAKER_01]: once a month for the first several years of the child's life that has given out over 325 million free books to children around the world.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She made huge donations to women's health.

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[SPEAKER_01]: An entire, I think, an entire medical center.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think there's a Dalai Parton Center for Women's Health.

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[SPEAKER_01]: problems.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Huge donations to other things like the wildfires in Tennessee.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She set up a charity to help people get back on their feet for that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She made a lot of the COVID.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's the best.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What's coming out since she passed.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was not publicized.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She was in the percussion

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[SPEAKER_01]: provided paid for banned uniforms for many high schools that did not have that in the budget.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And what I'm talking about.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and also in her hometown, in Tennessee, very small town, very poor area, and rural, but she provided an incentive of simply $500.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you graduate from high school, if you don't drop out, you graduate from high school, you get your diploma, $500 cash, and it dropped the dropout rate.

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[SPEAKER_01]: at her high school in that air high schools in that area from in the 30s it was rough it was ugly into the single digits just just by providing a little bit of an incentive for them to complete their high school education.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm going to be a little bit person.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Very special.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All of that, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: and there was never an article, there was never a conversation, there was never anything about, oh, she's not rich anymore or she's not like, she's not like, she doesn't have the presence that she does anymore because she can't afford all of these things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, she looked over everybody that she could.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think we need to admire more people in the world like that, rather than some of the people that we admire for the reasons that we do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, the quote I saw that stopped me cold a little bit when it came to Bali was that like the sun, she did not pick and choose who she shined upon.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that's nice.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Shine to point, ever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And for an exercise, is that just you everything the national anthem anywhere?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure she did, but I'm not a really aware of when or I'm sure she did.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You had to.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think everybody does at some point for better or for worse as some of the cases go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But Dave told me she was a wrestling fan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Big wrestling fan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She knew Dorie and Terry Funko were in the 70s and we're following it pretty profically then not who know how much like after that, but during that time she was in with the engraved.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, if she was coming up in the country music scene in the 70s, that was one of the biggest periods for professional wrestling in Tennessee.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And there were three

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[SPEAKER_01]: at least territory is going on right then you had Nicholas out of Nashville and out of where else did he run?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Was he going down to Alabama and into I think like Chattanooga and then there was an East Tennessee territory that was run out of the Tri-Cities that's that was a full time thing and then of course out Memphis and there's, I don't have time to go into all the machinations of who owned what went because Jerry Jarritz involved in the

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I don't think you know that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, it's it's all my head event and there's somewhere People don't know this stuff off the top of their head.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm so happy that you're here sometime to just like There you go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There it is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I appreciate you

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[SPEAKER_01]: But three full-time circuits in one state, in Tennessee in the 70s, it was almost impossible to not at least be aware of pro wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's in Tennessee, I'm talking in Tennessee.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's almost like not knowing about

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[SPEAKER_01]: American football, you know, like just that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I don't know who the teams are.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All those everybody can at least name their NFL team or their college football team, even if they've never washed it down, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I would say in Tennessee, in the 70s, just breathing the air in Tennessee, you would know who some of the wrestlers were.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You would know who Jackie Fargo was, Jerry Lawler, and the Fullers and the Google, you know, maybe not judge.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Nicholas was the promoter, but some of the guys that had lying for him, that these guys were huge parts of the pop culture and the zeitgeist of Tennessee, and Dan Dolly was coming up in all of that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't have any doubt that she knew who the guys were, at least, and maybe enjoyed it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll just like to, I'll just watch wrestling sometimes, too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't have to refer to Dan Dolly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's giving up the lens of iconic TV movies.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Rock you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Picture show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He was in home alone too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Also had an appearance in Oscar.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We mentioned clue and then think of all the cartoon, the boy's acting that he did.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You've all over the place, everybody.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the one that I think of of course is Rocky Horror because when I was living in the Louisville area, there was a theater that would show Rocky Horror once a month.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it was the first Saturday at midnight of every month, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Every Saturday you did the time warp again.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, once a month, and I would go quite a bit, and it was such an interesting crowd, of course.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's all the interactive elements within the movie where you're shouting back at the movie, at various points, singing the songs, there are certain moments you do certain things, like flick the lights up for when she sings.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a light, and all the things you shout at the lines, but

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[SPEAKER_01]: What I remember most about it was going with my, with my friends, a lot of them were involved in pro wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a lot of overlap between the rock you were a crowd in the pro wrestling crowd.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But you would get people like me who are there, you know, at midnight, wired up on caffeine and jeans in a t-shirt.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You would get the people that are dressed like the characters in the movie.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You would get people who had been out at the night clubs in the bars before coming to the midnight

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[SPEAKER_01]: dressed up to go club in next to somebody who's basically in their pajamas and took an app and then got up to go to see the midnight showing and we were all the same once the movie started it was such a diverse and open group of people at the first time I ever went I was just encouraged by so many folks like oh you've never been to well I so I've seen the movie but not not in the theater no not in the theater you haven't seen the

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they were right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It didn't capture.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the other thing about it, Jeremy, of course, he's a star of it, Frank in further.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And before the movie would begin, each month, they would play a, you had a warm-up act.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that would be a meat-loaf music video of some kind, because meat-loafs in the movie too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then there was a Tim Curry music video for when Tim was trying to be a rock star.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess he kind of was for a while.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The singer one call.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I do the rock and it's just cheesy 70s rock song.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's fantastic.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He also had the video to go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, this movie called The Witch It with Ferruca bulk.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he, uh, it was not HBO all the time growing up and it was like the first TV movie, but he was doing like singing bit where he was like a warlock and she was like a witch trying to gain acceptance with a bunch of other witches.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think I had the plot all mixed up, but it definitely happened.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just a couple of people have a positive memory.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I've

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[SPEAKER_00]: I also have a rocky horror picture show adjacent moment in my life where from like 2001 to 2007 I worked in this pizza place down in downtown Santa Cruz and it would be open until 2 a.m. on Friday and Saturdays.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think every two weeks, every Friday and Saturday, they would do the Rocky Horror Picture Show at the theater that was next door.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So the line would cascade with everybody dressed as that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the movie wasn't two hours long.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So at one, 30, you had all the people dressed in Rocky Horror coming in for the slices of pizza.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I had this Rocky Horror Picture Show, like, cast game in my life.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, I think I have,

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've had enough of a fraudulent picture show and I really never revisited it after that, but with Tim Curry passing, it's gone obviously a moment where you just kind of, you know, want to reflect on it and you know, the last few of Peter Cohen and I'll get this one out quick.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Daniel Warren Jolaksen did a Transformers book that got me back into it, maybe two or three years ago, and it's still going through Skybound Universe.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But what they did in that is when you was drawing it

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[SPEAKER_00]: if that he was having all the transformer of doing wrestling moves that I was familiar with.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, in one book that he did with that man,

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[SPEAKER_00]: He had Kenny Omega, Batman doing Kenny Omega is one waiting in Angel, and he did another book called Do A Power Bomb, which is like this fantastical wrestling book.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And all that kind of led me back to Transformers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And when you think of Transformers, the most iconic single Transformer that everyone thinks of, it's Optimus Prime.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And this man's voice was Optimus Prime.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I've been on social media all day long.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the amount of grown men who are

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is really affected by the death of this man is actually really shocking to me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's almost like Stan Lee died.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, like you saw the Stanley kind of when he died, very similar to that, that this man meant a lot to a lot of people.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I got it off with Prime up there to kind of thrown out, throwing out for Peter Colon and I'm going to the Transformers to movie 40th anniversary where Optimist Prime died.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Also, awkward timing that the voice of Optimist Prime died when they're really, really seeing the movie were Optimist Prime died.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That, that, that, that will not on the, that will not on the planogram for the, for the year PR tour, but that is that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But now that we're 15 minutes and Steven, maybe we should move on to actual wrestling talk.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, yeah, probably so, but I spent the week catching up on two other companies right there, which was I caught up on the five star grand prix.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm, I'm all set very happy for Reena for winning that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Thanks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's been a wonderful wrestler for a while.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She got her five star grand prix victory.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I heard that final is pretty good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the whole thing, the last two nights, especially they had a show in Cork and Hall that was the first round, then the quarter finals, then they did semi finals and finals in Tumohal and to five thousand for the finals by the way, five thousand for that they're doing fantastically.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and they had, the court can all show as excellent as well, all playoffs, you know, they had the first round and then those people moved into the round of 16 and then they or the quarterfinals rather.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then they came out of it with the semis and as matches were wonderful over and over again.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So just.

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[SPEAKER_01]: strong work rate, really good wrestling, some interesting storylines with Rina having to fight away through a lot of her contemporaries in hate, the hate faction in order to get there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Some controversy controversy at our friend Scott Edwards was not thrilled that Syah Kamatani, Momo Watanabe, and Uttami Hayashista all missed out on the playoffs all together, which was a little bit stunning, but they definitely went with some people.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And some, some, they went the idea of elevating people.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So Reno clearly, but Siaida went further than people thought, Ruaco went farther than people thought.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And all of them are very talented women.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I had, I had to talk with Scott and I understand why you want to see your favorites go deep into the tournament.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I do think it'll probably help start them down the road, as long as they book it correctly after that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Which is always the question, isn't it Jeremy?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is the way we're talking about that with OEWO?

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[SPEAKER_01]: With Rio Heo EWO winning the G1, it's like,

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[SPEAKER_01]: As long as you do it right afterwards, because it's the follow up the matters, you know, I would actually having that same thought today.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I got to do a couple of podcasts this weekend.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to sit down with Gary Gonzalez on Saturday on the fight game media.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we're going to talk about the movie raging bowl as part of the popcorn and pilot driver series.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I watch a movie, if you're good movie, I do not like the movie.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If I may have to be said to you, you know how like, if it good and did I like it or the tenon cover review, it was a good movie, but I didn't like it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: if that's okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we're going to explore that one when we talk about it and I'll go into it why.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I get to recap AEW all in on Sunday and one of the things I was thinking about is we have spent so much time on the journey of Will Offspray winning the AEW World Heavyweight title.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What happens when he does?

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, like

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was at the journey or once we get there, is there a plan in place for this guy to be, you know, cemented at the top guy at the promotion and made made that made that like you're I mean, and

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[SPEAKER_00]: uh, when you were mentioning that about the start of like it's so evergreen and wrestling when like when you talk about the big victory, but what comes next?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's always the case, isn't it?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Jeremy or saying I'm trying to find them time for CMLL.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's been tricky.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Please help.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, CMLL.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I would recommend just stick with the Friday shows if you're,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Press for time or if you want to just be concise about it, the other shows are great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You'll enjoy them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But the storyline canon right now is especially tied to the Friday night shows.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They are building up to the anniversary show which is coming up in mid-September.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And our arena Mexico already sold out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Forget about it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a full building, but...

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[SPEAKER_01]: the story lines are building toward that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's going to be some sort of mask versus hair element to it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We don't know exactly who's going to square off, which is an interesting thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Several different rivalries are coming to ahead and they're going to do some kind of elimination match where the winners of it have to face each other in a hair versus mask match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and that's coming up a couple of title matches are coming.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to be a great card, but that's all being built.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he's trying to find some English.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, yeah, this was funny, Jeremy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm glad that Jeremy or brought this up because normally CMLL is only in Spanish, of course,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I tried out of curiosity for a little while.

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[SPEAKER_01]: My Spanish is okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I'm watching this with the English Auto Dubon.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's hysterical.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I actually recommended for a little while just to make if you want to laugh and because it's just AI is what is almost intelligent, you know, it's the whole thing, but not why I've never heard that before that's fantastic.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, I almost intelligent.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's it is it's an interesting swings and misses in some ways.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's it's a

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[SPEAKER_01]: pretty entertaining to hear what it gets right, what it completely airmails.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And some of the stuff, you're just like, oh, that wasn't bad.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then it would just say the dumbest thing you've ever heard in your life, clearly not what the announcers intended or what they meant, but it's, say, yeah, it doesn't know any better.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So there we go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What if we got, oh, I mean, that's what I've been catching up on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And now, just a storm at me, Jeremy, in a great way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Marigold's tournament is starting up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What do you hell?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to catch up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I, I'm really not what I tried to want to raw on a Monday, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I flipped on it five and there was, uh, there was like solosico and LA night in the ring with the ooze of my god.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is weird that they're starting to show with us.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And

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[SPEAKER_00]: They do the match and then there's this big post batch angle and then the show stops and then I realized it was on three because they were double taping for some reason because they were going like a broad and raw looking going to be able to film where they were doing and actually like oh and then I'm like yeah don't care and I never went back to watch any of the rest of it and I then spent two days trying to catch up on collision.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just, I don't have time on the weekend lately and I just, I'm not watching wrestling on the weekend because it's not like paper view.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And with New Japan, it kind of, you know, off the day, I just didn't watch any wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it was nice.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was really nice.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can overload on it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But what we wanted to do today is look at new Japan's other championships.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to talk about the world title too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to talk about the world title too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But that's been the focus.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The soul G1 going into world title shots.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They did some things over the course of those two nights in Sumo Hall, though, to set up title matches.

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[SPEAKER_01]: A lot of it's going to be in Kobe.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There are a couple other places where things are going to be happening regarding the championship.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we want to touch base on that because really those titles sort of go on ice during the G1 and so let's catch up a little bit as we move toward destruction and Kobe, which is looking like a pretty good card right down Jeremy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So let's take a look.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We have, of course, the IWGP heavyweight championship.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, OE will won the G1 and he gets a shot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He says he's going to take his shot in October at King of Pro Wrestling in Simo Hall.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There is a world title match before that one, however.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that is going to be at Destruction of Kobe.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's the main event.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's here, Okey Godo facing Yoda's sushi.

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[SPEAKER_01]: For that title, Rio Heo OE will face the winner of that match at King of Pro Wrestling in October.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Stay still in the station booking right here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I do like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Again, in Kobe, a Kobe World Hall, that will come into play for the TV title match that we're going to talk about later.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Suji Goto, Jeremy, I think that Goto is part of this movie, the Street Fighter movie.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's probably why he's getting this match in this spot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We know that there is a sentimental bump up in attendance usually when Goto was involved.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We saw that when he was the champion the first time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not totally convinced with the movie coming out that there's going to be a switch here, you know, I think it do something like that, but I think it's, he's an underdog, but I'm not discounting the idea of changing it again, we're owned by a television network now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can see them getting in there and just saying, let's have the guy that's going to be on all the talk shows promoting this movie, holding the belt while he's doing so.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think New Japan might have to try to fight a little bit of that off, but.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that either one of these guys would have a good match for the Wii was.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think I'm going to go into the main event of destruction and co-bay just hoping for a great match because I don't really see it downside to any combination of these three matches.

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[SPEAKER_00]: One of the biggest matches that I thought about, you know, won't the G1 was over.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Was that Oh, we were ever just go to match where Oh, we were grinded his head down for five minutes and, you know, set up is basically G1 victory that way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it would be interesting if OE was then went and faced him for the IWG title in December because the conventional booking would have OE with losing to go to.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm not necessarily sure that's a good idea.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I'm okay with OE with losing to go to Fuji right now for a title, but I am not particularly keen on the idea of OE with losing to go to right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think you've touched on an important point right there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There is a difference, isn't there?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Goto beat Suji in the G1.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he went in block play right here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So going on that basis, Suji should kind of get it, quote unquote, get his win back here and go into the, I would recommend that, too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Again, I'm all about building up Suji.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think Goto's sentimentality is strong and

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think you necessarily need, he needs the title in that spot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Plus, I don't know if this movie takes off, he might not be around, he might be busy promoting the dog on movie.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So go to playing E-Honda and Street Fighter is a great use for him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They get this match out of the way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then he asks off and does touring for the movie, where he's needed and required.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that could take him all the way up through October because the movie comes out like worldwide in October.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now he's he's CGIed up in this movie.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so he does not look like our traditional heroic He goto, he's a man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he he he's rotund and he has no facial hair.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So and it's a Sumo rest.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He looks like a Sumo rest.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's shaped more like a Sumo guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, there you go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You got the tire.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I do that figure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So there you go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You big.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so I mean, but so he sees you up on the same in the movie, but he will maybe wear the costume.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe wear the costume at least or some version of it for the Kobe.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, this is my Marvel versus Capcom shelf and Capcom does free fighter.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, uh, what about a video game?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Capcom is a video game company.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, but I mean, what isn't there like one of those Capcom versus Marvel or something where the characters are like a whole brand, uh, there's Marvel or a cast free fighter

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[SPEAKER_00]: correlate into Marvel versus Capcom and Marvel if it's Capcom too, which is considered one of the best fighting games of all time and proud of me for knowing that I'm proud of me for knowing that I was actually a little like confused because I didn't think that you were going to go down that route, but I was like, oh, oh, oh, God.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, yes, you are correct.

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[SPEAKER_01]: three territories in Tennessee.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, so I can't remember my grocery list.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so Yota Fuji, I think, should be the guy to faith-free, oh, hey, oh, yeah, from wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the pathways from that point on, I think, will really be delineated by what story they want to tell about that match after the go-to, Yota Fuji stuff is concluded.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I will agree with you there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The title has changed hands the last couple of King of Pro Wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so when we get to that, we're going to talk more about whether it's a good idea to do it three in a row, it all depends on what they have in mind for the main event of wrestle kingdom, of course, because once you get past King of pro wrestling, then you got to start building the dome, got to go to the dome after that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, there is power struggle in November, but that's a smaller show compared to King of pro wrestling compared to the dome certainly so.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the young and shingo tagging, and it's going to be real hell.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You and that same or junior tag, you know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just, then, it's different priorities and different builds because the other double presumably, the set in some kind of concrete pie.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, and then let's see.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, Susan, you know, we would did not meet during the G1.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Did they?

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[SPEAKER_01]: No.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I don't believe it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: See, that's another reason to do it there at King of Pro Wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Jeremy Ormatch should it not be, Susan, she went Roy wins to continue G1 momentum.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If Roy wins, I'm not necessarily it again, it depends if they if they have somebody special in mind for the dome, then maybe or he would doesn't need to win.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think the G1 has elevated him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's now in any conversation you want to put him in and they might be playing with house money on that one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think he necessarily needs to win the title and again, you don't.

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[SPEAKER_01]: you don't want to get into a pattern where the G1 winner wins in the King of Pro Wrestling every single year, you don't want to be that pattern or predictable.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So there's a lot to go into this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So when we had Dave on last year, we talked about how the story should be for Yoda Suji being this year, and it should be two guys chasing him throughout the entire year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But what it ended up being is they had the column name and thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But to me, the landscape seems to be more about creating four, five fifth guys that are in the conversation to climb that mountain and get to Yota Fuji, we're then creating two specific guys that are chasing him throughout the year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's a way to do it, but it also,

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[SPEAKER_00]: It feels incomplete.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It feels like we're getting peace meal build for a bunch of guys rather than the sustained single thing because real hit we were winning the G1.

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[SPEAKER_00]: as much as we want to like say, oh, you know, it makes total sense.

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[SPEAKER_00]: A lot of people never thought coming.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You could talk about the sport of pro wrestling results and how many people had him like pick to win the whole day.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hardly anybody, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it still seems like you you were still in the conversation.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It still feels like show to Umano is intended to be built strong going forward.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I'm fine with that and with that being the case,

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think it's a sure thing that really will win because being in the G1 and then losing the title opportunity, it's supposed to get you to want it more and that's time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's the world title.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll be taking a lot closer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Look at that as we approach the event in Kobe.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Another title, though.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You have the graphic up here, Jeremy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can see it already on deck.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Though global heavyweight championship.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now,

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[SPEAKER_01]: We expected Shota Umino to be in this mix.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Of course, Shota had the concussion in Chicago.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The first night of the G1 had to drop out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Haven't seen him since.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hopefully he's OK. Concussions are concussions and they heal when they decide to heal.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're not on any other schedule.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But Shota's brains schedule.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And even he doesn't get to decide.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I hope he's all right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The key is they do have an interesting match ready for Kobe.

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[SPEAKER_01]: After Simo Hall events we saw, these two square off, there's video of it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you want to find it on social media and various places, I think YouTube, where Maloney and

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[SPEAKER_01]: kid went literally head to head, foreheads pressed together, nose is pressed together, looking into each other's eyes and growl in at each other, maloney pointing out that who was there for you?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know how messed up you are.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know how, I know

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[SPEAKER_01]: for all your bluster, for all the talk, I know what really happens inside that head because I was there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was there back in England when you were going through all the stuff you talk about.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was an interesting way to put it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It is just like, you talk, I can hear the words, but I know what's inside your head.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I thought that was a fascinating way for Maloney to approach it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And kid, of course, insisting that no, I'm different now, I'm different now and Maloney say.

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[SPEAKER_00]: you're not that different.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know, I know you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know the real you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so they're going to square off Meloni's a terrific worker, Gabe usually excels in these.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think we're going to have a good match here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think Gabe is going to retain.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't, I like drilling Meloni a lot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't see a lot of value in putting the global title on him right now when that's showed to Umano story.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And with any

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[SPEAKER_01]: Shota is able to perhaps challenge the winner of this one in Kobe, if he's feeling healthy again, I think it was smart.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If he's healthy, we don't know what he is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If he was healthy, I think it was smart not to bring him back in single hall.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's let this stick for a while.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So people are excited to see him again.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that is my hope that Gabriel Taines in a good match and they can go back to

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think show to Umano can get over at a world title level until he completes the story with the damn death writers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's snake bit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: People keep getting hurt.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It takes it for hour.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's been taken forever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I just don't think he can get.

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[SPEAKER_01]: to a point where he can hold a major title without serious doubts about him until he's done with this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm rooting for him to go to wrestling them this year and indeed wrap this up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's my hope.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll see if it happens.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But that means Gabe Kidney's to hold onto that global title.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think I am going to pour a little cold water on this because of what I'm seeing in AEW right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I agree with you fundamentally that to climb that, get over the hump, show to Umeno need to finish the deal with John Malkley at some point.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and it doesn't have to be Moxley at the dome.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It needs to be something to be.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It could be here in the final match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I, my suspicion is this, this is how I think I'm, I'm booking this all out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Drilla and Gabe have this match, this direction in Kobe.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Kid goes over.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Shota Umino challenges after that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They have the match at just, uh, King of Pro Wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Shota goes over.

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[SPEAKER_00]: At that point, we get into the World Tag League.

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[SPEAKER_00]: At some point, Drillamoni get pinned on Show to Umino.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That sets up their match for Russell Kingdom, which would, you know, honestly, Drillamur's show to be the match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're the guys that have grinded.

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[SPEAKER_00]: in New Japan for wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not going to draw anything.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But for those two guys, for the work that they've been doing around the global title, I think that's a natural story that they've been building to because they had draw.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They got in the way of them fighting for that title.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You get got in the way of them fighting for that title.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And now we get to that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Meanwhile, John Malkley's got the Continental Championship over in AEW.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they're doing a New Japan cut version of the Continental Championship in which it's a single elimination tournament.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I presume that John Malkley is winning this tournament and then going into the continental classic in December in which he's doing their round robbing thing and their world's end is going to be like the end of December.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's no time for him to build a match or show the Umino with all of that going on with him being kind of the standard bearer of that title.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's facing Nigel McGinnis for the title when all said and done this weekend and all

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now you're going to get us, I don't expect to win, he's a commentator.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And there's no point having, now you're going to get us when a title like that, on a bit stage, when the whole point of Will Offspray winning the title and the main of that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This whole thing, Jeremy, in a good way, reminds me of what WWE just did with Nick Aldous and Gunther, where it's just a chance for a guy who's a really good worker to have a good match and put over a guy on the main roster, and Nigel is certainly capable of doing that, just like Nick was perfectly capable of giving Gunther one of the better matches to that weekend.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's what we're going to see.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you're right, there's no reason for Nigel to eat Nigel appearing on this show in Wembley, that's the reward.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He doesn't need to win the thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think we both presumed that Will Osprey will be at restricting them with Calm Newman.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And if that's the case, fundamentally, if that's the case, that's all you need for May and UW as, like, guest house.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You don't need, you don't need more plea, you don't need Gabe Kid on top of that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, you have Will Osprey.

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[SPEAKER_00]: People love Will Osprey.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He would be a baby face, again, a guy that's trying to make a top heel.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You don't have to put more toppings on the Sunday after that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's why I'm thinking the Gabe kid done an off-toeber and it kind of finishes the whole thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, his vehicle issues seem to be like, who are up in AEW, he's going back to AEW, where he real paycheck hits.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, these are the things that I'm thinking of.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Can I throw something out here before the concussion?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought that this is where it was going that we're going to try to do showed in Moxley.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's something like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And some sort of deathwriters think for sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You bring up a good point.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If the timing of the concussion and everything's going to throw it off a little bit, it's not a bad idea.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It has to beat Moxley at some point, or he was not going to be taken seriously as a top guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You could do that at Dominion next year, and there's some synergy because that's the match at Dominion when Moxley came into New Japan in the first place.

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[SPEAKER_01]: After he left WWE, he came into New Japan.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He had the match against young lion showed to Umano beat him, but like the kid picked him up and carried him to the back and basically declared him his tag team partner.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's how this whole thing started.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was at Dominion.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So there could be a real

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[SPEAKER_01]: synergy to that you bring that on the start of that and that that's a possibility for show to I'm just reading for show to finish up the step writer.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I I am 100% with you, but what I just think you move on without it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I agree with you and and the monkey Paul on that if that John Monkley has become so important to Tony Collins plans and AEW that he have used

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[SPEAKER_00]: Every night every night he is you've programmed on there and until such a time that he that Tony Connor built up a cadre of people that jump up like a step away for a couple of weeks because this guy always wants to take a vacation and never duck you know like he's just he's grinding you love it, but

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, he's there every night and until such time that he can come and do a program in New Japan and you're not just do a program like if he goes and puts show to him no over, he's not going to have that, you know, he's not going to show up and if like, I, what do we do?

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I mean, like, they're going to be thought, care and intentionality after like all of this to do it right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I hope you

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[SPEAKER_01]: The junior heavyweight title is up next.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that has a match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We already know the challenger, and we have a date.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not destruction and co-bate.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Similar to other big events they've done lately.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a junior heavyweight night leading up to the big one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And this one is headlined by Yo versus Taiji Ishimori at Battle Line Hokkaido on September 23rd, a few days before destruction and co-bate.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll get to the other junior heavyweight match that night.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not a title match yet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It might get to that every by the time we get to Hokkaido, maybe not.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But for the junior heavyweight title, yo and Ishimori.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, this is one that came as clean as a guess.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Ishimori got a pinfall win over the champion and attack match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So he gets the next shot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Jeremy, not a lot can go wrong here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: These are two excellent workers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know that I'm a Mark for issue, Mori.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just think the guys, to generational talent on this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's in the 40s.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's in that kind of shape.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He can work that well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Believe me, folks, I've seen him in person.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The abs are even more glorious in person.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Yo has shown so far that he can draw a crowd.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Remember him,

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[SPEAKER_01]: winning the G, uh, the, not the G one, the B O S J, the finals of B O S J in the older word gymnasium out drew two nights of the G one combined two nights of the G one combined more people showed up to see the B O S J finals.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So there's some track record of you were being able to draw a crowd.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is she more is a great opponent for him?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I would look at the advanced sales, if yo draws a larger than usual crowd, they are nuts for doing anything but having him retain here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They are crazy for doing anything but having letting it, excuse me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They are crazy if they don't let him retain if this is a good house, plain and simple.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You've got a guy who is showing signs of drawing in a company where not very many people draw.

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[SPEAKER_01]: stick with it if it's still true.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, there were people like just flat out telling us you've draw, you know, like don't be surprised if they they run with them and seem to be what they're doing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right now, Fujita seems to be a tension locked on another championship.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we're going to do that in a bit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: he's kind of out of the question and so I really don't know what the heck they've got planned for this whole division for all attempted purposes because you know they they got a few people in the chamber that you know could be ready to go at any given time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But if y'all were the champion going to rustle kingdom, I got no problem with that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think you're right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so let's just see how it goes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So let's just take a little bit of a draw.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you can draw, the other match I mentioned for Battle Line Hokkaido, by the way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not listed as a title match right now, but the Junior Tag Champions are Mystico and El Desparado.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They are going to be their facing show and dokey.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's not just gonna be bonkers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It probably will be, who knows what's going to happen with it, you know, mystical, lost, tapped out, and something he does not normally do for New Japan and Desperado, but they are the tag champs currently.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe somebody gets a pinfall here or and and it leads to a title match down the line or something happens before that with Desperado and it's made into a title match right now it is not listed as a title match, but it is happening at battle line Hokkaido should be good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, all four of these guys are good wrestlers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The question is how much is how's the torture going to muck it up probably not too much with Mystico in the match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: just because that's not his usual milieu.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just saw Doki and Ujero Takahashi in a match from CMLL on a Friday night back in July.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Not too long ago and I also saw Shoma Kato on that show and some of the some of the New Japan boys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Ujero is as slow and luculee Bray as he is in strong style, but Doki

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the reason I mentioned this, Doki was tumbling, running, diving, look pretty damn healthy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So if you have a healthy and motivated Doki, smash might be terrific.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So this match is in the middle of September, yes, September 23rd, battle in Hokkaido.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And how many more matches do you think the junior heavyweight tag, or is it going to happen before we get into super junior tag leak?

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's might be it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: In your professional opinion, believe that Mr. Go will be in the future tag league.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think so.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't see CMLL giving him up for that amount of time, consecutively, that many Fridays.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Are you picking up what I'm putting down here, Steven?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, eventually they're going to have to try.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, they were never going to be long-term champions.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's not the way that work.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, Dokey, Dokey and the show of the Junior tag champions going into the Super Junior tag week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And doing a mirror of last year, we're Dokey was just like, yeah, nobody be me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Everyone just kind of end up when they lose, they get the pen on him with actually the kind of funny.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, it's interesting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll see if this gets turned into a title match or if this match leads to a title match correctly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to represent believe that this will be a title match by the time that we get there and that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think our culture probably walking away with titles.

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[SPEAKER_01]: House of torture does something nasty to Desparado and forces the issue or something like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, you know, Mr. Go and play.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're taking a stick around in a bench.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Back to Mexico, I go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Jeremy or mentioned the mystical is still good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He can't believe he was sincara.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that was a classic clash of styles.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He did not fit into the WWE F or WWE system by then it was WWE.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, that didn't work.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What can you say?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It just didn't pan out and the

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[SPEAKER_01]: Luchely, Braden, Translate and WWE had no idea how to get the best out of him and also I hear that he wasn't the most cooperative and trying to adapt.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so it was, it was a clash of egos and styles that did not pan.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's better that he went back to being Carista co and then when the second Mystico left.

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[SPEAKER_01]: he can go ahead and just take his old gimmick back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's worked out well for CMLL to uh, one of the few guys who's not dead to them after leaving, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, they welcomed him back and put him back in his old spot and look what they have.

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[SPEAKER_01]: One of the best years they have ever had 2026, as terms of attendance and did you um, side note, did you catch those columns by cover on your junior?

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[SPEAKER_01]: What did he say exactly?

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[SPEAKER_00]: He basically said that the guy with the who spit water and the guy who's undead and killing me to like join up and I'm like, nah, I don't think I'm gonna do that because he knows he's bred buttered.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He knows he's the guy in waiting at CMLL and they're a little longer to go a lot to that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's a monk, they have such

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[SPEAKER_01]: strong depth right now with Misticos getting older, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's not going to be there forever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But mascara Dorada is incredible and he's young.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So Barano's young.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's excellent.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Neon, excellent.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Teton, not as young as the others, but certainly not old.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's excellent.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's a great people ready to go, man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, boy, do they.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Boy, do they.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Measley goes on another level there, but it's so it's exciting to have him in New Japan when we get him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm happy he's going to be on this show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I ain't going to get him for long because they're not going to go too long without him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I, you know, I remember back at WF the reason it was the jumping bomb angels with the first survivor series was because they couldn't go to the crush gals for very long at all, you know, the way you can have, you can have them for a tour our number two team.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But we're going to keep our number one tour.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to keep our number one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: uh the crushed gals did not make that trip.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The jumping bomb angels more than capable.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's kind of what we get with some of the stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll get me to go for one show here and there, probably not a full tour of fantastic amanias, it's own thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But they do other gimmicks in Mexico City to cover for the for the guys being gone for a couple of weeks there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They do tournaments and I think they might have had a women's show all women's show or something like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They they do other stuff in Mexico City when the guys are

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[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, next up we want to mention the tag team titles.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we don't have a title mesh as of yet for this one, but the tag teams are held by Great O'Con and Hinarry, the tag team titles.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, we have two teams that are actually in a bit of a battle trying to fight it out for that number one contendership spot and I'd imagine that at some point we don't have the whole destruction of Kobe card yet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We only have a handful of matches.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Those will be coming out as the tour goes on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: but the most violent players, Togi Makabe and Toriyano got an upset win on the knockout brothers and now they're fighting it out for that number one contender spot throughout this tour, the destruction and co-bay tour, these two teams are on opposite sides with various trio's partners.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sometimes taking a guy, sometimes somebody else, sometimes geto

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's actually main eventing, blue justice.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Eugene Nagada is going to be teeming with Macho Bay and Yano against Nagai and the knockout brothers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So something's going to sort of self out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'd imagine there will be a number one contender match between the two.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm kind of hoping that's MVP just because I still strongly recommend to New Japan that you send knockout brothers into that world tag league.

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[SPEAKER_01]: without the titles and make them fight their way into that spot winning the world tag league going to the Tokyo dome.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just think there's momentum there and

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[SPEAKER_01]: If the fans kind of know that the champions don't win the tournaments anymore, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: They kind of know, they kind of know that and knock out brothers would going in without the titles.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think what add an extra air of tension to the world tag league, a tour that is usually a placeholder between power struggle and the dome, if the knockout brothers are going after the tag team titles, I think there's more interest than usual.

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[SPEAKER_01]: in that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So 100%.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Last year, I did the IWGP tag tags weren't even on rest looking them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think they should be if the knockout brothers are involved.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think I think they're going to I think the knockout brothers should win the world tag league and challenge for the titles and win the titles at rest looking them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: 100%, and remember, no time to actually retirement this year, kids.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The wrestlers have to draw the crowds, and so they're going to need all hands on deck, and they are going to need their most interesting plot lines, story lines, and most captivating characters in big spots in order for this thing not to look empty like a couple of your show, how you path up on the opportunity of you know, I was doing his little walk down that long ramp.

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[SPEAKER_00]: in order to win a world type.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Amen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I don't, like, there are things that you just, like, that is how you print money for to get people to buy a ticket.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's knowing that they're going to see this thing where their guy does the super long walk in an extra pageantry style thing and then they win the titles that you know that they should be having.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I mean, yes, I agree.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And on the other side, look who we have here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We have Machabe, we have Yano.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I see mock-a-man, he's just like, dad, you know, I see this picture.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But you can have all kinds of different finishes that don't embarrass the knockout brothers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't beat the knockout brothers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yano could tie him to a part of the arena.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, the Makabe could get a realistic count out win.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, they might get counted out because they're taped up to something in the arena.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That type of thing, it doesn't have to be a pinfall loss with those two especially.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Stopping, greato, Colin, and Henare from like.

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[SPEAKER_00]: interfering in the match because honestly yeah at this point like I would not put it outside of them and then it turned into like a weird three way that told you Machi Bay and and Toray on end up losing and then you know like no matter what they do like the knockout brother can't seem to get their opportunity until they fight their way through the world timely and then they get their one-on-one match with these guys that do not want to face them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Plus, O'Conan and Ari probably should hang on to the tag team titles.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you're going to do a United Empire Civil War, it's more interesting if there are things like belts involved.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, they're what I want to go to.

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[SPEAKER_00]: To hit the bell, right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the trio's titles, which are completely on ice.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's nothing for the trio's titles right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, O'Conan and Ari and Osprey.

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[SPEAKER_01]: hold the trio's titles.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So there you go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But that's they're all part of this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Jeremy says Jeremy Orr and Goto won't be in World Tag League this year, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think he might be.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But it's just a pretty back then.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's December.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think he'll probably be back and he and he and Nio Shihashi, Bishaman, will be part of that as my guess.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They'll be gatekeepers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They'll be putting people over.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We mentioned the trio's titles, Great O'Con, and Ari and Osprey.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Not a whole

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[SPEAKER_00]: The reality is, like, the tag game that should probably be highlighted in the World Tag League would probably be OUA and...

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[SPEAKER_00]: Jack Simper Jr.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It should probably be you and Shota probably run it back one more time it's probably tag team partner again is that you know like that would be the tag team if Shota is going to get pinned by drilling Meloni at some point you know like you have a powerhouse team or they lose a couple like unfortunate that make it so that they just don't get close enough to winning the thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maloney and Shingo will be in there as a team you would thank you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, and then like Yoda, he's in there probably in there with Who could it be in there with oh?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, Jeff got Oh, maybe yeah, that could be yeah, so she doesn't have to be in a thump if he's a chance I like Jeff got a good you if a team though that would be great

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, they'd probably be entertaining.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So let's see what we got here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, the never open weight title.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This has an interesting direction.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We don't have a match yet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We don't have a match yet, but it is Aaron Wolfe and it looks like Jose Fujida and Fujida has been talking trash on line.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Unfortunately, we did not get the preview tag the second night of the Sumo Hall matches because Wolf was sick and out for that one, but all indications, all of the talk, is that we are going to at some point see Aaron Wolf versus Cosa Fugida.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I would be worried about this if I hadn't seen Wolf's G1 where it seems like he has really good matches with everybody except house the torture.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Fujita would know how to work with the guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a lot larger.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He does it all the time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not worried about that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think this could be a very intriguing title match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't see Wolf losing it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: New Japan still doesn't like having juniors beat heavy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's very often sometimes hero mode would do it, but even then his record against heavy weights wasn't stellar.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, so this looks like a title retention, but a chance for him to have a fun, interesting match with a really good work or food you to and has the added benefit of.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Providing a logical storyline, why food you to isn't with the junior heavyweight singles title.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I, uh, when I read about this, I thought I telepathically.

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[SPEAKER_00]: New your head exploded.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you guys know how you feel about like whatever I talk about how they're how they might eventually position food.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know like the heavyweight division.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's so cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I hear you and I just I saw them like, oh, they're doing it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The minute he had that last ton of Hashimachi core and I'm like, oh, they have big guy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They have big guys for this guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's too soon.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He'll get bigger.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But to sure, you don't want to pay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You don't want to pay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just like I'm sure all when he got put into a position to wrestle with Aaron Wolf, who may legitimately be twice the size, you know, like, if Fuji is 140 and he's that 260, it's going to be close.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, it's closer than it is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it'll be an interesting matchup because I think they'll be able to do a lot of really good work with each other, but the outcome will never be in doubt, you know, and I mean, like just the way that it works is fugitive not be to air.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, man, he shouldn't.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He shouldn't.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely not, but like this is all to, you know, fugitive to talk him down and then Aaron will prove him wrong and it's just one more accomplishment on Aaron will correct me in the first year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, the other match that we do have for Kobe, we have the TV title on the line, can also get to catch to the television champion versus Schoen Skywalker, and I'm calling her right now to catch this doomed, because not only do we have House of Torchor, which will interfere liberally.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Shunes guy walker fresh out of dragon gate Jeremy can you tell me I know you can what is the home city for dragon gate pro wrestling Kobe Kobe Japan this is I thought you gave me a meatball over the plate on that one It is his town all indications and why would you bring him in the way you did

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[SPEAKER_01]: with the presentation that he had, if you aren't going to put him over for the TV title, that Takeshda doesn't even need.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Correct.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I, the minute I saw students got Walker in this match with Takeshda, I thought Takeshda was dropping the title to him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because Takeshda losing to somebody already established on the roster would be an even bigger deal because they've already established where he is on the pecking order.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, you know, he's a former IWGP champion, you know, like beating him is like a flower in your cap.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And for all these guys that have like wrestled him and all that, there's a story to that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But if you bring in the guy fresh, like shooting skywalker, who's resume for all attempted purposes as a heel heavy in the company is more or less, you know, he had the

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[SPEAKER_00]: and good, different guy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, he was there, but he's been brought back and repackaged.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We had a really shune.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The only time we've really seen shune is that some of these, the issue more he promoted shows.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They brought him in for, he was there for a per night, house church, a per night.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That type of thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's where we've really seen shune more than anything else in these New Japan adjacent shows.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So this is more or less a real

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[SPEAKER_00]: New Japan singles match title match debut for him and another more value in putting him in a position where he win the title like that and you're like Oh, he just beat Takeshita the question of how he did and all that stuff in the grand scheme of things will be pushed in the back of my he will be pushed as You know this guy you can't be in 15 minutes You're not gonna beat you'll beat some guys in 15 minutes, but a lot of these guys just

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[SPEAKER_00]: and they're not going to beat him, and he's just going to retain.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I kind of like that, you know, you need to heal that we'll just feel like, yeah, I'm just going to wait out the clock, you know, you're not going to beat me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so the unproven commodity, beating the proven commodity, have way more value to me than picking a guy on the roster.

58:23.104 --> 58:26.747
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, you're going to be the guy at a beat to catch up, because you can't follow up on that with them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The stock is already through them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: it's a good thing for skywalker this is a title he can hold it so he can get a few defenses and they can make him look good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's the right move for this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, let's take the leader of health and torture.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And to catch the, you know, who knows, he might have EW story lines down the road that he needs to take care of.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He can't be here all the time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so this is, it's the right time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Take it off of him and you can establish a deal.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Good time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what I'm saying.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like going into November, December.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They got the continental classic to catch those, you know, he's got work to do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think this October 12 date is you circle it for a lot of these.

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[SPEAKER_01]: uh... the women's title by the way the i w g p joshi title sure he is holding map and uh... it was uh... it's a title now i'm curious to see what ends up happening with this title bushy road of course no longer owning new japan but they still own stardom isn't even really a new japan title anymore what happens with it it it

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it'll be defended off of New Japan shows far more than I.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It may be it, Russell came to maybe not.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just don't think New Japan particularly wanted it in the first place.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's not something I necessarily agree.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was excited about the idea of they're being some crossover, but.

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[SPEAKER_01]: from New Japan's actions and promotions that didn't seem like they were all that into having it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I think they're kind of happy to, let's start a book it never mind, the whole thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The NJPW strong women's titles on Alex Windsor, and I don't think anyone cares about that belt and hasn't for quite a while, certainly New Japan doesn't.

01:00:10.859 --> 01:00:12.360
[SPEAKER_00]: She can give you a champion this weekend.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, I know you're, I know you're on the edge of your feet about that one.

01:00:17.181 --> 01:00:36.944
[SPEAKER_00]: I want it out there and you're like, don't care if we're on, but you know, they may put absolutely no emphasis on that title since ever since the strong side of the strong title is not consistent and she is going to be challenging for the women's tag team titles in her tag team, the brawling group, which is always to me.

01:00:43.839 --> 01:00:45.300
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, they're, they're, they're whole vibe.

01:00:45.360 --> 01:00:46.481
[SPEAKER_00]: It might be the British Bulldogs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The British Bulldogs?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the Brawling Bird, because the British Bulldogs, you look at them, that, that, that, that's, that's the allegory between the two teams, because they're the British, like, the Brawling Bird and the British Bulldogs, the British, the British, there's a whole, the whole makeup of the team is the style of the British Bulldogs.

01:01:06.112 --> 01:01:07.893
[SPEAKER_01]: That's blind to my kid and baby boy Smith.

01:01:07.913 --> 01:01:09.974
[SPEAKER_01]: There's nothing, oh, my goodness.

01:01:14.663 --> 01:01:16.204
[SPEAKER_01]: It's kind of my kid and baby boy's nothing.

01:01:16.404 --> 01:01:18.406
[SPEAKER_01]: Alice, Windsor, Jamie, hey, are you gonna be kidding me?

01:01:18.606 --> 01:01:20.608
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I'm in pain right now.

01:01:20.688 --> 01:01:23.330
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, I'm gonna take a QD press and move on from that one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The Chavez brothers hold the strong tag team titles.

01:01:29.295 --> 01:01:33.638
[SPEAKER_01]: That's on held the Oro and Nebula, Roja in CMLL.

01:01:33.698 --> 01:01:35.319
[SPEAKER_01]: Those are basically CMLL titles now.

01:01:35.639 --> 01:01:39.142
[SPEAKER_01]: They've been defended several times in Arena Mexico.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think they're going to say there for a while.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Again, no strong shows.

01:01:43.104 --> 01:01:47.447
[SPEAKER_01]: There's just no reason for those to come back and let CMLL.

01:01:47.507 --> 01:01:50.569
[SPEAKER_01]: Book them at CMLL has approximately 35 title belts.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think I have one of them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: somewhere around here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think I'm a champion in CMLL.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's how many there are.

01:01:56.235 --> 01:02:03.584
[SPEAKER_01]: If you ever want to go on either wrestling data or cage mash and take a look at the list of CMLL times, it will startle you.

01:02:03.604 --> 01:02:05.887
[SPEAKER_01]: You're like, oh my god, I've never even heard a half of them.

01:02:06.007 --> 01:02:07.829
[SPEAKER_01]: I think they forget they have them half the time.

01:02:07.849 --> 01:02:08.570
[SPEAKER_01]: They're a lot of them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Never mind that.

01:02:10.281 --> 01:02:17.984
[SPEAKER_01]: And then there is a Tamashi tag team champions, a tag team title and the tag team champions, the ungrateful ones.

01:02:18.404 --> 01:02:24.486
[SPEAKER_01]: So I know we were waiting for the beta right there, but Tamashi hasn't really been part of traditional New Japan canon at all.

01:02:24.506 --> 01:02:27.507
[SPEAKER_00]: Probably a pretty grateful to be recognized as a champion for New Japan correctly.

01:02:27.807 --> 01:02:28.247
[SPEAKER_01]: You would think.

01:02:29.007 --> 01:02:33.688
[SPEAKER_01]: But so far, I am curious to see if they even bring them over for the tag team tournament.

01:02:33.869 --> 01:02:36.209
[SPEAKER_01]: They need a bunch of teams either.

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[SPEAKER_01]: How are they small guys?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would have to.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If they were big, they would have been brought over.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess that's probably true.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but Demi.

01:02:49.260 --> 01:02:51.782
[SPEAKER_01]: if they were good, they probably would have been broken.

01:02:51.802 --> 01:03:09.860
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, so those are the current championships in New Japan, Jeremy, any final thoughts before we move on to Tenson, and might get out of here a little bit earlier today, but any further thoughts on the title situation in New Japan as we head toward the road to destruction.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I am not brimming with intense fire for the bill for all these titles right now.

01:03:18.249 --> 01:03:28.433
[SPEAKER_00]: I think I'm curious, I think they're good and all that, and I hope that the follow-up I'm engaged with it as I'm watching these shows, you know?

01:03:30.634 --> 01:03:31.795
[SPEAKER_00]: But right now, she's like,

01:03:33.775 --> 01:03:36.596
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, cool, well, cool, well, cool, these matches have to bring.

01:03:36.756 --> 01:03:39.417
[SPEAKER_00]: And that have a lot to do with there have to make any build so far.

01:03:39.657 --> 01:03:43.398
[SPEAKER_00]: We just can give it a clay to matches and told that that cool could happen.

01:03:44.859 --> 01:03:46.819
[SPEAKER_01]: If Russell Kingdom is on its own plane, right?

01:03:46.879 --> 01:03:49.200
[SPEAKER_01]: It's the biggest event by a good distance.

01:03:50.660 --> 01:03:58.403
[SPEAKER_01]: I would say that King of Pro Wrestling, Dominion, New Beginning, are

01:03:59.457 --> 01:04:09.790
[SPEAKER_01]: Would you say that those are the the other quote unquote big shows throughout the year, is there anything else that you would throw in there as an annual big domain in a what else.

01:04:10.922 --> 01:04:13.143
[SPEAKER_01]: I would think, well, King of Pro Wrestling is a big deal.

01:04:13.163 --> 01:04:13.843
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

01:04:13.863 --> 01:04:16.643
[SPEAKER_01]: They do that in Simo Hall and there have been some world title changes on it.

01:04:17.724 --> 01:04:21.704
[SPEAKER_01]: I kind of think New Beginning ends up being a pretty big show these days.

01:04:22.165 --> 01:04:25.945
[SPEAKER_01]: Sometimes they do it too nighter and things, but New Beginning seems to be a big deal.

01:04:26.786 --> 01:04:31.587
[SPEAKER_01]: Dominion King of Pro Wrestling seems to be the big four at the moment.

01:04:31.647 --> 01:04:33.367
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe you could make a case for Don Taku?

01:04:34.182 --> 01:04:36.225
[SPEAKER_00]: I would put the current genesis ahead of.

01:04:36.345 --> 01:04:37.406
[SPEAKER_01]: Man, it's a current genesis.

01:04:37.586 --> 01:04:38.748
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, it had a new beginning.

01:04:38.988 --> 01:04:44.114
[SPEAKER_00]: If it was me, because if you're the New Japan Cup find it like the New Japan Cup, like fallout.

01:04:44.520 --> 01:04:47.102
[SPEAKER_01]: Hmm, and there's, there are tears to this that weren't there.

01:04:47.122 --> 01:04:53.587
[SPEAKER_01]: There's like power struggle in November, not as big a deal as the other's destruction, not quite as big a deal as the others.

01:04:53.707 --> 01:05:07.318
[SPEAKER_01]: There's, so that there are tears to this aren't there, but second genesis, I would like I would say that don't talk who isn't quite as big as Genesis or new behavior because there are big shows and then there are big matches on show that.

01:05:07.973 --> 01:05:10.474
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, you don't typically consider to be a big show.

01:05:10.614 --> 01:05:32.204
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, the G1 final was probably one of the best matches of the entire year for New Japan, but we don't talk about it as being one of those big nights, big, like match events, because it's just one match rather than this completely stacked lineup of different things going on that feel like when the night is over, the entirety of the promotion

01:05:36.967 --> 01:05:37.267
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

01:05:37.367 --> 01:05:38.328
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, there you go.

01:05:38.448 --> 01:05:40.170
[SPEAKER_01]: Anything else you want to add before we move on?

01:05:41.150 --> 01:05:41.711
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.

01:05:41.731 --> 01:05:59.405
[SPEAKER_00]: We, um, the only thing to mention is that before we get to the Timcom thing is that go to Fuji went to the Vietnam Pro Wrestling event and invited their champion areas to come train at the Dojo, which, very cool.

01:05:59.825 --> 01:06:00.366
[SPEAKER_00]: But nothing more

01:06:02.829 --> 01:06:04.791
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's not that he's joining the roster.

01:06:04.831 --> 01:06:08.195
[SPEAKER_01]: He's going to train in the Nogate, Dojo, for a while.

01:06:08.475 --> 01:06:11.919
[SPEAKER_01]: So we don't even know if he's going to become a young lion.

01:06:12.440 --> 01:06:15.363
[SPEAKER_01]: It might be just a bit of a treat for him.

01:06:15.423 --> 01:06:17.806
[SPEAKER_01]: And they want to get a look at him and see.

01:06:17.906 --> 01:06:23.872
[SPEAKER_00]: He could be creating and then take all that training back and train the other guys in like in things.

01:06:24.713 --> 01:06:25.434
[SPEAKER_00]: back in Vietnam.

01:06:25.554 --> 01:06:38.842
[SPEAKER_00]: Like he can be the ambassador there and then take everything that he learned at that legitimate training school that is who can another people run and parlay it back to the Vietnam and have newspan get back to them.

01:06:39.929 --> 01:06:47.332
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, there's a history of guys being guests in the dojo for a little while and then leaving some of the cap, Zanjay.

01:06:47.752 --> 01:06:48.272
[SPEAKER_01]: They kept him.

01:06:48.592 --> 01:06:50.173
[SPEAKER_01]: And it was decided, all right, this kid's good.

01:06:50.193 --> 01:06:50.953
[SPEAKER_01]: We're gonna hold on to him.

01:06:51.013 --> 01:06:52.894
[SPEAKER_01]: So that was also a guess thing, so.

01:06:53.054 --> 01:06:57.436
[SPEAKER_00]: If he's good, I wouldn't be shocked at all to see him in the Super Junior, or like the best of Super Junior, the best year.

01:06:58.116 --> 01:06:58.376
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no.

01:06:58.916 --> 01:07:01.517
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, well, he's not a big guy, you know what I mean?

01:07:01.537 --> 01:07:05.299
[SPEAKER_00]: I like he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, looked like that he'd be in a guy.

01:07:05.339 --> 01:07:07.920
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe maybe 20 more pounds of alcohol on him.

01:07:08.990 --> 01:07:09.431
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

01:07:09.471 --> 01:07:12.834
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, of course, we did 10 cents retirement over the course of Simo Hall.

01:07:13.255 --> 01:07:17.319
[SPEAKER_01]: So we're going to finish up the 10s on biography here today.

01:07:17.680 --> 01:07:24.587
[SPEAKER_01]: And so we'll look at the, we'll look at the end of 10s on when we left off with 10s on.

01:07:25.288 --> 01:07:27.850
[SPEAKER_01]: We had talked about the formation of the original Great Bash heel.

01:07:27.890 --> 01:07:33.313
[SPEAKER_01]: Tenson was a faction leader at this point, after over a decade with Masiro Chono.

01:07:33.413 --> 01:07:41.859
[SPEAKER_01]: So he had Togimakabe, Shiro Koshinaka, Toriyano, Tomahiro Ishiyi, Tomahaki Homa, that was the original GPH lineup.

01:07:42.279 --> 01:07:46.021
[SPEAKER_01]: At the same time, he was also teeming with Kojima a little bit in Aljapan.

01:07:46.181 --> 01:07:46.602
[SPEAKER_01]: When we...

01:07:47.222 --> 01:07:55.709
[SPEAKER_01]: left off two weeks ago, we talked about how he and Kojima won the All-Japan Tag Team Tournament while he was also leading GBH in New Japan.

01:07:56.769 --> 01:08:10.140
[SPEAKER_01]: However, was not going to be a smooth sailing in February of 2008, Togimaka Bay turned on Tenzon, the ungrateful guy, and he overthrew the man and took over GBH.

01:08:11.935 --> 01:08:13.396
[SPEAKER_01]: Kojima stood by him though.

01:08:13.577 --> 01:08:18.281
[SPEAKER_01]: So most of 2008, he was fighting with his former teammates.

01:08:18.662 --> 01:08:26.770
[SPEAKER_01]: Kojikanamoto and Eugene Agada joined up with Tenzan and Kojima to battle the GPH crew, but that was a few.

01:08:27.110 --> 01:08:32.751
[SPEAKER_01]: through a lot of 2008 for Tenzons, trying to get back at the guys that had turned on him.

01:08:32.931 --> 01:08:36.492
[SPEAKER_01]: He even teamed up with China a little bit again in some special moments.

01:08:36.512 --> 01:08:40.132
[SPEAKER_01]: Sadly, though, Tenzons ended up injured for a lot of 2009.

01:08:40.532 --> 01:08:43.473
[SPEAKER_01]: He only had 34 matches in 2009.

01:08:43.533 --> 01:08:47.294
[SPEAKER_01]: If you look back at his record, Jeremy, this is a guy who was an absolute workhorse.

01:08:48.114 --> 01:08:50.094
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, over 100 matches each year

01:08:56.278 --> 01:08:57.559
[SPEAKER_01]: four months for sure.

01:08:57.619 --> 01:09:06.505
[SPEAKER_01]: He came back in May, came back in May with a channel return match that he won, and then he started wrestling more.

01:09:06.605 --> 01:09:13.270
[SPEAKER_01]: He went through the G1 that year, went all the way through the G1 through August, but then missed the rest of 2009.

01:09:13.710 --> 01:09:18.974
[SPEAKER_01]: So he was only wrestling from May to August of 2009, the rest of the time he was he was out hurt.

01:09:19.615 --> 01:09:21.796
[SPEAKER_01]: And he even made a special appearance in Noah during

01:09:24.358 --> 01:09:32.981
[SPEAKER_01]: Tenson teamed with Kazuchka Okada in Noah in a loss to Akihita Akiko Ito and Kenta Kobashi.

01:09:33.682 --> 01:09:47.787
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's an interesting little trivia note that very young Kazuchka Okada did cross paths with Lake Herir Kenta Kobashi, two of the all-time grids in Japanese wrestling, did indeed cross paths a little bit, even though they were for totally different companies.

01:09:47.827 --> 01:09:49.088
[SPEAKER_01]: And it was in a match with the

01:09:51.510 --> 01:09:59.719
[SPEAKER_01]: And that was he and Isaka also had a chain death match in Hakido in front of 5,300 and he defeated Isaka by knockout.

01:10:00.140 --> 01:10:09.591
[SPEAKER_01]: So even though he was hurt a lot of the year for those four months that he did wrestle, he was in pretty prominent positions and that feud with Isaka was still going strong.

01:10:11.697 --> 01:10:14.499
[SPEAKER_01]: By the time he comes back, he heals up a little bit.

01:10:14.759 --> 01:10:16.420
[SPEAKER_01]: Yano had left GBA.

01:10:16.460 --> 01:10:21.963
[SPEAKER_01]: Remember, Yano turned on Machabe, and ended up going with Nakamura to form chaos.

01:10:23.503 --> 01:10:26.025
[SPEAKER_01]: So at this point, things had changed a little bit here.

01:10:26.525 --> 01:10:36.311
[SPEAKER_01]: Machabe was the sympathetic baby face who had been stabbed in the back by Toro Yano, and Tomahiro Ishiyi, Ghetto, Jato, some of the OG chaos guys.

01:10:36.391 --> 01:10:39.772
[SPEAKER_01]: So he aligned himself again with

01:10:41.690 --> 01:10:48.594
[SPEAKER_01]: Makabe, they made up, and he honed Ma and Tens on Battle Chaos throughout a lot of 2009.

01:10:49.134 --> 01:10:57.259
[SPEAKER_01]: He wrestled in the G1, or excuse me, in 2010, that was when he was fighting with ghetto judo, isica.

01:10:58.059 --> 01:11:07.845
[SPEAKER_01]: And at rest of Kingdom 5, he faced Izekah again in a deep sleep to lose match where the only way to win was to choke your opponent out tens on one mat also.

01:11:07.965 --> 01:11:12.287
[SPEAKER_01]: So now he's feuding with chaos back with Makabe and Hanma.

01:11:13.108 --> 01:11:16.550
[SPEAKER_01]: And he spent 2010 basically as an upper midcard guy.

01:11:16.870 --> 01:11:18.911
[SPEAKER_01]: He finished in the middle of the pack in the G1.

01:11:19.312 --> 01:11:21.573
[SPEAKER_01]: He had a second round loss in the New Japan Cup.

01:11:23.449 --> 01:11:28.910
[SPEAKER_01]: Things started to turn around for him a little bit toward the end of the year at Power Struggle in November.

01:11:29.491 --> 01:11:32.671
[SPEAKER_01]: He and Kojima faced off in a special singles match.

01:11:32.691 --> 01:11:41.034
[SPEAKER_01]: They hadn't turned on each other, but they're the classic friends and rivals type of relationship that went throughout their entire careers.

01:11:41.414 --> 01:11:42.654
[SPEAKER_01]: The mutual respect was there.

01:11:43.054 --> 01:11:49.196
[SPEAKER_01]: And after he defeated Kojima in that singles match, they reformed their team in December and wrestled together.

01:11:50.138 --> 01:11:57.671
[SPEAKER_01]: In the middle of that, in the middle of reuniting as a tag team, they wrestled against one another at Kojima's 20th anniversary show.

01:11:58.896 --> 01:12:10.983
[SPEAKER_01]: So they were, again, that type of thing where the mutual respect was so strong that when I want to think of my favorite opponent as Kojima did for his 20th anniversary, he picked tens on.

01:12:11.043 --> 01:12:17.587
[SPEAKER_01]: So they teamed, they were wrestle against each other, but they were tied up with one another's careers permanently.

01:12:18.087 --> 01:12:21.249
[SPEAKER_01]: At WrestleMania, at WrestleMania, at WrestleMania, at WrestleMania Kingdom 6.

01:12:21.289 --> 01:12:22.730
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sorry, a little off today with that stuff.

01:12:23.110 --> 01:12:23.990
[SPEAKER_01]: WrestleMania Kingdom 6.

01:12:25.319 --> 01:12:31.007
[SPEAKER_01]: Kojima and Tenzon defeat a giant Bernard and Carl Anderson to win the IWGP tag team titles again.

01:12:31.387 --> 01:12:37.015
[SPEAKER_01]: That was three for 10 cozy and nine overall for Tenzon, as tag team champions.

01:12:37.876 --> 01:12:41.622
[SPEAKER_01]: He participated in the G1 every single year if he wasn't hurt.

01:12:42.782 --> 01:12:46.544
[SPEAKER_01]: By 2015, he held the record for the most appearances in the G1.

01:12:46.984 --> 01:12:55.448
[SPEAKER_01]: So going into 2016, he was in more G1 tournaments than anybody else in New Japan history at that point.

01:12:56.089 --> 01:12:58.170
[SPEAKER_01]: But in 2016, he was left off the list.

01:12:59.150 --> 01:13:04.533
[SPEAKER_01]: And in an emotional angle, Satoshi Kojima gave up his spot in the G1 that year.

01:13:04.953 --> 01:13:07.134
[SPEAKER_01]: So the tens on could have one more tournament.

01:13:07.194 --> 01:13:08.895
[SPEAKER_01]: He spent that tournament as the,

01:13:10.513 --> 01:13:14.698
[SPEAKER_01]: elder statesman underdog and came out of it with only four points.

01:13:15.719 --> 01:13:20.784
[SPEAKER_01]: And afterwards said that if I can't be competitive, then I'm not going to do this anymore.

01:13:20.844 --> 01:13:22.306
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not going to be in any more G1s.

01:13:22.366 --> 01:13:26.170
[SPEAKER_01]: And that was the end of of Hiroshima tens on in the G1.

01:13:26.730 --> 01:13:30.574
[SPEAKER_01]: Over the next few years, we would lose a lot of those guys from that generation in the G1.

01:13:31.235 --> 01:13:43.092
[SPEAKER_01]: Monoros Suzuki had his last G-1 in 2018, Eugene Agada had his final G-1 around that time as well, Kojima, a little longer than the others, but he would eventually stop being in the G-1.

01:13:43.112 --> 01:13:47.858
[SPEAKER_01]: So that group, guys, that started in the very early 90s, which started to filter out.

01:13:48.619 --> 01:13:49.059
[SPEAKER_01]: at last.

01:13:49.479 --> 01:13:56.241
[SPEAKER_01]: He would be part of the tag team scene for a few more years, though, and he won the tag team title for the final time with Kojima.

01:13:57.222 --> 01:14:08.205
[SPEAKER_01]: On March 6th, 2017, defeating Tomahiro Ishii and Toro Yano, the chaos team, before losing it a month later to war machine at Saccharogenesis.

01:14:09.065 --> 01:14:13.949
[SPEAKER_01]: So war machine and sacchargences, the last team to take the titles off of ten cozy.

01:14:14.950 --> 01:14:17.872
[SPEAKER_01]: Tenzon was also picked as Iska's final opponent.

01:14:18.413 --> 01:14:25.699
[SPEAKER_01]: When Iska retired, they had his retirement match, and in the end, Tenzon tried to talk some sense into them.

01:14:26.339 --> 01:14:29.102
[SPEAKER_01]: They shook hands for a moment, but then Iska bit him in the face.

01:14:30.381 --> 01:14:33.164
[SPEAKER_00]: ended up running off at retiring as a heal.

01:14:34.044 --> 01:14:40.669
[SPEAKER_01]: And he made a couple of appearances after that, of course, as a kid did to terrorize the announcers and various other folks.

01:14:40.729 --> 01:14:53.819
[SPEAKER_01]: But in the end, though, Jeremy, we saw it at a similar hall, Isica and Tenson hugging embracing and in the end, going out as friends with Tenson's retirement.

01:14:53.839 --> 01:14:53.980
[SPEAKER_01]: But

01:14:55.000 --> 01:15:10.097
[SPEAKER_01]: We mentioned how he seems to have affected the young generation, people doing his moves, people doing all kinds of tributes to him, but it just goes to show you that Kojima, 20th anniversary, who's my opponent, Tenza, is a retirement match, who's my opponent, Tenza.

01:15:11.758 --> 01:15:15.382
[SPEAKER_01]: The guy meant a lot to a lot of people from multiple generations, and

01:15:16.513 --> 01:15:19.334
[SPEAKER_01]: for them to book him with Chono all those years as well.

01:15:19.534 --> 01:15:22.596
[SPEAKER_01]: 10 years they were together as some kind of an alliance.

01:15:23.696 --> 01:15:34.681
[SPEAKER_01]: And it just shows that when tens on was a part of someone's career, it becomes almost a foundational part of that wrestler.

01:15:36.401 --> 01:15:37.982
[SPEAKER_01]: Tens on just meant a lot to a lot of people.

01:15:38.182 --> 01:15:41.503
[SPEAKER_01]: And he retired with a very emotional tribute.

01:15:46.371 --> 01:15:49.053
[SPEAKER_01]: His body was really giving out on him at that point.

01:15:50.074 --> 01:15:53.156
[SPEAKER_01]: Steetering a little bit with 10 cozy, not anything like he would be later.

01:15:53.677 --> 01:16:09.749
[SPEAKER_01]: But the muscle definition was starting to fade over the next few years, he became one of the dads who would put guys over early on in the card, a similar position to Tiger Mask and what Nagada was for a while there, even all of they beat Nagada a little bit less than they would beat the other guys.

01:16:12.061 --> 01:16:15.742
[SPEAKER_01]: the decline in his health was apparent.

01:16:16.122 --> 01:16:21.583
[SPEAKER_01]: And as the years rolled on, tens on would slide farther down the card.

01:16:22.143 --> 01:16:28.384
[SPEAKER_01]: He would do a little bit less in his matches until just finally reach the point in a couple of years ago.

01:16:28.504 --> 01:16:33.725
[SPEAKER_01]: We haven't really seen him wrestle much the last few years and even less in the last year or so.

01:16:33.805 --> 01:16:37.526
[SPEAKER_01]: And then tens on just came out and said, I just simply can't physically do it anymore.

01:16:38.026 --> 01:16:38.766
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's retirement.

01:16:39.811 --> 01:16:42.714
[SPEAKER_01]: You saw why, unfortunately, balance is gone.

01:16:43.234 --> 01:16:46.076
[SPEAKER_01]: All that nerve damage is muscles are gone.

01:16:46.417 --> 01:16:48.439
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's time to hang it up, isn't it?

01:16:48.539 --> 01:16:51.721
[SPEAKER_01]: But here are the shiitens on from 1990.

01:16:51.882 --> 01:16:59.868
[SPEAKER_01]: All the way through, the mid-2010s was a part of the title scene in New Japan, Pro Wrestling.

01:17:00.709 --> 01:17:06.414
[SPEAKER_01]: And so I just wanted to make sure that everybody that only has seen him since he's been one of the dads,

01:17:07.752 --> 01:17:14.886
[SPEAKER_01]: Walking instead of running and not being really able to pick too many people up except maybe do the brain brain buster and a couple other things.

01:17:16.302 --> 01:17:19.604
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, get the idea of Harry O she tends on when he was at his peak.

01:17:19.644 --> 01:17:22.205
[SPEAKER_01]: Thankfully, that stuff is in on NJPW World.

01:17:22.225 --> 01:17:23.606
[SPEAKER_01]: He was a hell of a worker.

01:17:23.866 --> 01:17:24.726
[SPEAKER_01]: He was way over.

01:17:25.226 --> 01:17:28.348
[SPEAKER_01]: He was a very exciting wrestler when he was at his full strength.

01:17:28.408 --> 01:17:36.752
[SPEAKER_01]: And I really hope that people go back and take a look at some of that stuff with Kojima, with Chono against Muto, against Koshinaka.

01:17:36.852 --> 01:17:38.253
[SPEAKER_01]: All those guys from that era,

01:17:39.133 --> 01:17:39.874
[SPEAKER_01]: Go back and watch it.

01:17:39.894 --> 01:17:45.037
[SPEAKER_01]: He was a very, very talented man before all the entries caught up with them.

01:17:45.058 --> 01:17:47.819
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's clear that he will continue to be an influence.

01:17:47.860 --> 01:17:55.785
[SPEAKER_01]: Hopefully, maybe not jumping in the ring in training guys, but being a man who can give real sage wisdom and advice to the younger generations.

01:17:55.865 --> 01:17:59.448
[SPEAKER_01]: And hopefully, he sticks around to do that because he seems to have a lot to get back.

01:18:01.469 --> 01:18:03.191
[SPEAKER_00]: Come up to mind with this, Steven.

01:18:04.411 --> 01:18:04.572
[SPEAKER_00]: And

01:18:05.843 --> 01:18:14.686
[SPEAKER_00]: One, if that you were exceptionally good at these retrospectives over the course of many, many shows that we do.

01:18:14.726 --> 01:18:15.707
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, thank you.

01:18:15.807 --> 01:18:18.748
[SPEAKER_01]: I apologize for fumbling over so many of my words today.

01:18:18.808 --> 01:18:20.669
[SPEAKER_01]: I might seem to have a bit of mushmouth.

01:18:21.089 --> 01:18:21.729
[SPEAKER_00]: It's okay.

01:18:21.749 --> 01:18:28.291
[SPEAKER_00]: Sometimes, you know, because I don't know about a thousand, but you got the general just of it, and I thought you did an excellent job today.

01:18:28.412 --> 01:18:28.752
[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you.

01:18:30.672 --> 01:18:38.280
[SPEAKER_00]: Other side of that is that we only do these when people are hanging it up or calling it, calling it a day and

01:18:40.397 --> 01:18:44.798
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, some people really get their flowers, would have time to hang it up and some really don't.

01:18:45.618 --> 01:18:56.221
[SPEAKER_00]: And it is still just kind of, you know, sad to reach out, book closing, like book finishing rather than, you know, book starting with some of these guys.

01:18:56.301 --> 01:19:06.184
[SPEAKER_00]: And being there for the whole time, like you've been with, with 10s on, you know, me watching some of these guys start their first match and then finish their last, it doesn't get easier.

01:19:09.208 --> 01:19:28.901
[SPEAKER_01]: It's tough for me because when I first started tap trading, the young guys were Kojima tens on Nagata watching them move all the way through their careers and begin to retire and have these injuries and maybe not being able to move like they used to.

01:19:28.921 --> 01:19:29.421
[SPEAKER_01]: That's tough.

01:19:29.581 --> 01:19:30.422
[SPEAKER_01]: That's tough because

01:19:31.959 --> 01:19:39.765
[SPEAKER_01]: When I picture Satoshi Kojima, when I close my eyes and think of Satoshi Kojima, I kind of think about the 1994 Kojima in 1996 Kojima.

01:19:40.606 --> 01:19:44.809
[SPEAKER_01]: In the G1 that year, one of the best G1s of all time by the way, the 1996 G1.

01:19:45.710 --> 01:19:48.872
[SPEAKER_01]: And he was so exciting and full of energy and thanks.

01:19:48.912 --> 01:19:53.475
[SPEAKER_01]: And he's still pretty sprig for his age, but Tenzan was another absolute, well, the bowl, right?

01:19:53.495 --> 01:19:54.696
[SPEAKER_01]: He was an absolute bowl.

01:19:54.977 --> 01:19:58.479
[SPEAKER_01]: And he and Chono were one of the coolest tag teams out there.

01:19:59.640 --> 01:20:00.741
[SPEAKER_01]: just young and full of fire.

01:20:00.781 --> 01:20:04.263
[SPEAKER_01]: And so though that's when I close my eyes and think of those guys, that's still what I picture.

01:20:05.063 --> 01:20:12.287
[SPEAKER_01]: And it can be difficult for me to see Machabe and Yano looking at each other was just like, let's stay close to him because you might fall over.

01:20:12.828 --> 01:20:13.268
[SPEAKER_01]: That's tough.

01:20:14.529 --> 01:20:17.130
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yep, yep.

01:20:19.231 --> 01:20:22.473
[SPEAKER_00]: There is a part of me that, like, maybe he hung on just a little too long

01:20:29.820 --> 01:20:30.901
[SPEAKER_00]: Time always wins, man.

01:20:31.381 --> 01:20:32.722
[SPEAKER_00]: Time will always win.

01:20:33.323 --> 01:20:37.926
[SPEAKER_00]: And if you're not ready to make that decision, time will make that decision for you.

01:20:38.727 --> 01:20:43.810
[SPEAKER_00]: So I was about the age where my dad like tore his Achilles tendon, like playing Racketball.

01:20:44.291 --> 01:20:47.033
[SPEAKER_00]: And I walk around and I'm like, I would not.

01:20:47.901 --> 01:20:49.062
[SPEAKER_00]: play and rackable right now.

01:20:49.082 --> 01:20:50.162
[SPEAKER_00]: What a what the hell.

01:20:50.342 --> 01:20:55.645
[SPEAKER_00]: Like I can feel my body like I can move around and remember I'm you know flexible and all that stuff.

01:20:56.025 --> 01:20:56.945
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not playing rackable.

01:20:56.965 --> 01:20:57.806
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not doing tennis.

01:20:57.866 --> 01:20:59.407
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not doing all these athletic things.

01:20:59.847 --> 01:21:02.868
[SPEAKER_00]: My body will give up on me so quick and it will never be the same.

01:21:03.008 --> 01:21:04.329
[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't know what I don't want that time.

01:21:04.349 --> 01:21:06.090
[SPEAKER_00]: So I want everything to work.

01:21:07.392 --> 01:21:09.673
[SPEAKER_01]: But with pro wrestling, the story never ends.

01:21:10.113 --> 01:21:15.196
[SPEAKER_01]: And a new one will begin soon on September 9th when you shen out Azawa starts his career.

01:21:15.216 --> 01:21:20.799
[SPEAKER_01]: He'll be the first young lion who did not cross over with Tenzons' career.

01:21:21.239 --> 01:21:23.741
[SPEAKER_01]: And it just keeps on going from there.

01:21:23.881 --> 01:21:26.843
[SPEAKER_01]: And we'll see, maybe he'll be the next big star, maybe you won't.

01:21:26.923 --> 01:21:27.183
[SPEAKER_01]: But

01:21:28.023 --> 01:21:37.110
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what these guys fading out new ones coming in and what we saw at the G1 was the ascension of Rio, Rio, Rio, Rio, Rio, Rio to a new level.

01:21:37.450 --> 01:21:39.732
[SPEAKER_01]: We know that you, you're way more

01:21:41.040 --> 01:21:49.345
[SPEAKER_01]: We always suspect that he was a terrific wrestler, but he may have elevated himself with that performance in the finals and the cycle just keeps on going.

01:21:49.385 --> 01:22:01.833
[SPEAKER_01]: And at some point, there was a guy watching these young upstarts just thinking, man, you know, when I think of Tetsumi Fujianami, I think of, you know, the young version of the 70s or when I close my eyes, I think I can't go Camora.

01:22:02.733 --> 01:22:04.114
[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know,

01:22:04.694 --> 01:22:05.415
[SPEAKER_01]: just never ends.

01:22:05.575 --> 01:22:11.179
[SPEAKER_01]: And one of the beauties of pro wrestling is that there's always a new star on the horizon that we can take hard in.

01:22:11.419 --> 01:22:16.423
[SPEAKER_01]: And hopefully the older generation helps pass things on to them and allows them to succeed.

01:22:16.463 --> 01:22:17.944
[SPEAKER_01]: So we'll be keeping an eye.

01:22:18.425 --> 01:22:25.991
[SPEAKER_00]: The future does seem bright for New Japan and hope you know everything that I see of the impact that Tim's on has had on them.

01:22:26.391 --> 01:22:28.773
[SPEAKER_00]: He you should be taking a lot of credit for that.

01:22:30.251 --> 01:22:34.115
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and he, one of these, one of the young lines out there was his final attendant, right?

01:22:34.175 --> 01:22:38.239
[SPEAKER_01]: So it just shows that there's that, that crossover continues to exist.

01:22:38.879 --> 01:22:39.199
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

01:22:40.120 --> 01:22:42.763
[SPEAKER_01]: When we come back next week, we will have shows to preview.

01:22:42.923 --> 01:22:44.404
[SPEAKER_01]: Finally, Blue just went on the way.

01:22:45.065 --> 01:22:48.969
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, they added a show to NJPW world.

01:22:49.009 --> 01:22:50.810
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, there's nothing else for the month of August.

01:22:50.911 --> 01:22:55.235
[SPEAKER_01]: However, according to the NJPW world schedule,

01:22:55.895 --> 01:23:18.622
[SPEAKER_01]: They will be televising the show from, let me make it get this straight, Saturday, September 5th at the Light Cube in Utsanamia to Chigi, that one will be live in Japanese with English added later, and then we will get Eugene Agada's Blue Justice Show from Chiba on Sunday, September 6th.

01:23:19.322 --> 01:23:22.044
[SPEAKER_01]: those will be on NJPW World.

01:23:22.064 --> 01:23:29.829
[SPEAKER_01]: Before we thought we were going to go right from the G1 finals all the way to Blue Justice, they're going to add that Tocchi show in there as well.

01:23:29.849 --> 01:23:37.334
[SPEAKER_01]: Then the road destruction tour really picks up a few days later with the debut match of Howtozawa on the ninth.

01:23:38.074 --> 01:23:45.459
[SPEAKER_01]: And other fun stuff, of course, two nights in Cork and Hall, that include some special tag matches, Tai Chi and Aaron Wolfe against Fujidana.

01:23:45.579 --> 01:23:46.000
[SPEAKER_01]: We were

01:23:46.620 --> 01:23:51.703
[SPEAKER_01]: a beishaman against Takagi and Suji, so pretty good stuff coming up there.

01:23:53.044 --> 01:23:58.587
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'll be excited to get back and to watch you in some New Japan come Labor Day weekend.

01:23:59.068 --> 01:24:06.632
[SPEAKER_00]: I guess that's the, that's the target date for the return to action for the vacation.

01:24:06.672 --> 01:24:08.994
[SPEAKER_01]: Otherwise, we'll continue.

01:24:09.054 --> 01:24:11.976
[SPEAKER_01]: Right, and in the schedule, just to keep in mind, there are,

01:24:12.996 --> 01:24:19.762
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, there's only one house show before that that's going on in Yamaguchi and that's on Sunday August 30th.

01:24:19.782 --> 01:24:21.683
[SPEAKER_01]: That is strictly preview tag.

01:24:21.723 --> 01:24:27.108
[SPEAKER_01]: How show stuff won't be on NJPW World as of airtime here on this show.

01:24:27.328 --> 01:24:30.290
[SPEAKER_01]: But they are taking some significant time off.

01:24:30.330 --> 01:24:32.432
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the first show back after the finals.

01:24:32.492 --> 01:24:38.657
[SPEAKER_01]: And hopefully the guys have managed to ice their injuries and heal up a little bit

01:24:42.201 --> 01:24:44.627
[SPEAKER_01]: That takes a lot of goes up as G1 rolls on.

01:24:46.152 --> 01:24:55.338
[SPEAKER_00]: I saw some casual photo, after the G1, Yoda City, he had a Vietnam and a T-shirt and sweatshirts and a look at super casual.

01:24:55.618 --> 01:24:58.580
[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, look more championish right there, but it's got to be how to call it right there.

01:24:59.060 --> 01:25:02.983
[SPEAKER_00]: And then I saw, oh, we were a new year, we were celebrating over beers.

01:25:03.343 --> 01:25:07.665
[SPEAKER_00]: Both clearly toasted, both G1 celebration.

01:25:08.066 --> 01:25:11.468
[SPEAKER_00]: Just the fuzzy happy faces is their drink and their beers together.

01:25:11.488 --> 01:25:13.069
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm just like, good for you guys.

01:25:14.529 --> 01:25:14.809
[SPEAKER_01]: Indeed.

01:25:14.849 --> 01:25:15.169
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

01:25:15.609 --> 01:25:23.512
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I want to thank everybody that joined us here live and anybody that joins us later on as a podcast or here on YouTube are really grateful for your time.

01:25:23.532 --> 01:25:24.672
[SPEAKER_00]: You're joining this go.

01:25:24.692 --> 01:25:27.053
[SPEAKER_00]: They're running a whole lot to talk about.

01:25:27.773 --> 01:25:29.194
[SPEAKER_01]: I think we managed to cover a few things.

01:25:29.214 --> 01:25:31.494
[SPEAKER_01]: So we didn't get a chance to talk about last week with Chris Sam.

01:25:31.514 --> 01:25:34.375
[SPEAKER_01]: So so make sure you go back and check back conversation out as well.

01:25:35.116 --> 01:25:35.356
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:25:35.536 --> 01:25:35.756
[SPEAKER_00]: So.

01:25:37.059 --> 01:25:41.202
[SPEAKER_00]: If you are, if you're still listening, don't forget to like, subscribe, tell a friend.

01:25:42.503 --> 01:25:47.587
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01:25:47.607 --> 01:25:54.533
[SPEAKER_00]: The, uh, the buy mouth approach is slow and steady, but it does seem to work.

01:25:55.634 --> 01:26:00.277
[SPEAKER_01]: And don't forget power bombshells back on Sunday to guide you to everything that's going on.

01:26:00.657 --> 01:26:02.439
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll be here Saturday and Sunday to you guys.

01:26:02.459 --> 01:26:03.760
[SPEAKER_00]: You have to remediate that easily.

01:26:04.462 --> 01:26:05.485
[SPEAKER_01]: plenty of content coming.

01:26:05.525 --> 01:26:07.670
[SPEAKER_01]: So for Jeremy Feinstein, I'm Stephen Conway.

01:26:07.710 --> 01:26:10.897
[SPEAKER_01]: This has been speaking of strong style and we'll talk to you again real soon.

01:26:11.599 --> 01:26:12.000
[SPEAKER_00]: Bye.