G1 Climax Semifinals Set, Wrestle Kingdom Main Event Rumors | Speaking of Strong Style

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[SPEAKER_01]: The semi-finals of the G1 climax are set, and we are guaranteed to have a first time tournament winner.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll look at how we got here, and the journey of all 20 G1 contestants.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're also going to look more at Heroic O.C.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Tenson's career, and was I hearing things for the last 30 years?

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to explore that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But Jeremy Feinstein, I'm Stephen Conway.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is Speaking of Strong Style.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Welcome, everyone, to Speaking of Strong Style.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We discussed the news issues in events surrounding New Japan, pro wrestling, we're contributors to the fight game media network.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We are also dizzy after watching and insane number of shows in the last few days.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And cramming as much as possible, and I'm caught up by the skin of my teeth.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I barely got it all done and watched today, Jeremy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Are you caught up?

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[SPEAKER_01]: How are you been feeling?

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[SPEAKER_01]: This has been one of the busiest weeks I can remember in a while.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Stephen, I wanted to thank Neutropan first and foremost for on my the weekend where I had to go away because it was my wedding anniversary to Monterey.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Didn't have a whole lot of time to watch the matches there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Today, we're at the shows when you're prioritizing the love of your life versus the love of the promotion, your favorite wrestling promotion, you know, you kind of the perspective there, I thought I made the right choice.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So when we were talking before the show and you're like, man, it was really busy this week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, oh my god, it was.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my god.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I had no time and somehow I managed to watch all five shows.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I did find the result of both the eighth and today before I got to watch them, which is just unfortunate like stroke a lot, but

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[SPEAKER_00]: There were pleasant surprises here there and it was fine, but the eighth is the day that we kind of realized that Aaron Wolf was not going to be going forward in the show and so I saw the results and I was just kind of like, nah, well, they're going to wipe the taste out of my mouth on that one for a few minutes because our our our big swing was a miss and we'll get to that later, but you know, we made it to the show, man, and

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[SPEAKER_00]: top to bottom really good stuff, you know, we have a injury, we have the the most valuable player and the least valuable player.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We have to stick to break down.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we definitely do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, you're being pretty modest right here because I wanted to mention that on the

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[SPEAKER_01]: Picks leaderboard Jeremy mentioned that we we fell off a little bit with the wolf thing or that and and I feel bad a little bit because I think I talked you into that a little bit wolf maybe being the choice just because of his appearances on national television, how they're positioning him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But, but I mean you were a writer die and I decided to write and die with your call and I was like, I have no regret about it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What's left.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, you are still Jeremy Feinstone folks 7th 7th place out of 600 plus entries in the G1 sport of pro wrestling dot com pickpool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't want to do a awfully well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What's that?

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[SPEAKER_00]: How many points do I have?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You have 128.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The factory pretty impressive.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's pretty impressive.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I honestly stopped looking when I realized Aaron Wolf was out because I was talking to people and they were just kind of like, yeah, you're doing really, really well, but I'm going to fall off a cliff real quick and I'm just, I'm just already ready for like being on the pirate ship and having to walk the plank and I'm just going to be a precipice and then somebody else, a deserving winner, is going to claim the title and go out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll see how that turns out over the weekend, but I wanted to address a couple of things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: First of all, we had visitors this week, so it was very busy for us as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I managed to squeeze in a match here and there sometimes, but I've caught up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm ready.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've seen everything.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the other piece of good news I got was I have

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[SPEAKER_01]: I have ordered and I have gotten, I haven't received the physical tickets as of yet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Those are being FedExed over.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I ordered and I will be receiving box seats for Stardom's dream coin them this year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I am excited about that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I will be going to Rio Gocucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucucuc

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[SPEAKER_01]: They are only selling two people per box instead of four.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So on top of it all, I'll have space.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll have Elboro.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Can I ask you a question?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We do a new Japan podcast.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you're going to Japan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I am.

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[SPEAKER_00]: These shows.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Am I wrong in assuming that you're more excited for the start.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure that you are restlooking them this year?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, we don't know the rest of kingdom lineup yet, but I am excited about going to dream kingdom because one of the things that happened a couple of years ago when I went out for rest of kingdom, I arrived just barely too late to go, you know, I left on New Year's day and this time taking a longer trip and I thought, well, this time I can fit in both dream

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[SPEAKER_01]: DREAM quaintem has a much better shot at selling out because it's in Sumo Hall and New Japan is in the Tokyo dome with what could end up being a rough attendance depending on how things go the next few months.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I'm not worried about that show selling out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was a little bit worried about getting tickets if I didn't act immediately for DREAM quaintem because we told it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think you're going to be able to get whatever ticket you want for restricting them this year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the only reason I asked that is that

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[SPEAKER_00]: When we cover this new Japan, right, we cover it objectively, but we also have an excitement and a passion for it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what brings us to the day more or less.

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[SPEAKER_00]: When you talk about stardom, like you're still talking about it, like it's your like, sand, like it's far to your hobby.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you're not covering it like the job.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so start a, start them and see MLL on my two favorite promotions, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I can tell when like you talk about it, because like there's just a different, like a different,

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[SPEAKER_00]: You kind of coach it in a little bit of a way because you just, you really like start up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And when you have a chance to kind of like pivoting, you're like, yeah, right off to for you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's really good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Booshy Road.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Our former owners overlords released some quarterly figures that look pretty, pretty decent thankfully at one of the things that was noted in there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, this is the kind of thing that they're going to say because

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, they always want to put their best PR feet forward, but they bragged about how strong start them has been.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they kind of bragged that they unloaded New Japan because of how we could spend.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So they talked a little bit about how Dominion was not a success.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they did not make as a lot of money on Dominion, but so they were kind of relieved that they got that cash infusion by selling New Japan off.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they're also talking about just how strong Stardom has been for them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And how profitable Stardom has been now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Keep mind, of course, that's what they're going to say.

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[SPEAKER_01]: These releases are all about making the company look like geniuses for investors.

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[SPEAKER_01]: See how smart we are?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Walk along.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If they were that smart, they wouldn't have to take out that loan.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They wouldn't have to sell a new Japan.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, but it does go to show a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That startup is in a really strong position right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, I...

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to get into start of a subway.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You don't want to be like, it has to, I have to get that platform where I can just watch on the Apple TV.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I can't do it on the computer, I can't, I can't, I can't, like, it's just the way that I'm programmed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it's open to trouble on Reddit a couple of days ago, because somebody was doing this fantasy booking about like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: big cooperative like Russell Dynastia for wrestling kingdom this year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It has like stardom and AEW and New Japan and CMLL and just like if everything was hunky-dory between everything and like all the magic in the world was sprinkled in all these things and I just kind of like mentioned like yeah you know now the Bush Road and you know

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[SPEAKER_00]: New Japan and start them or not all on the same page, you know, I think I think some decisions are going to have to be made about like Who what where why when and it may be smiles on the outside, but you know, there are decisions being made about where Where priorities lie and they're like, but it's like, yeah, I should just show

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[SPEAKER_00]: are going to want to believe what they want to believe, but it's very much true that they're not all under the same banner anymore.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so it's just this idea that if you're going to be so eager to do a cooperative, like now, no, not what we'll have to see how all that stuff plays out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We just don't know what to do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: you're filming a magic sprinkles.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And just like we are not doing a thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Jeremy Orr.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Jeremy Orr is asking his Jeremy Law some way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Jeremy Vison and I got to say you're looking pretty good at it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is like you look like you're refreshed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I appreciate that, guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I have high blood pressure and a host of things that made me forced to really work on that stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, yes, purely uncosmetic reasons, but the cosmetic aspect has been noticed by people.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I appreciate all the kind words and all that stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just, I want to be around for a long time and being in my 40s is a white man with a little bit of extra weight

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[SPEAKER_01]: Fair enough.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, you're looking good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, the other thing I want to address before we get to G1, where I spent a ton of time on this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that is an issue that came up last week with something that I said, where I talked about how Walker was calling the moon salt that Sonata is doing, the rounded body press.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Then it was brought to my attention by more than one commenter that the Japanese announced team is calling it a rounded body press currently.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Then it was brought up that Kichi Muno's version of this has, here's the deadly word, Jeremy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Always been called the rounded body press.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought I was losing my damn mind and here's why right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought I was having a Mandela effect moment here because I was sure like 100% sure in my noggin that I became familiar with the term moon salt because of the great moona played by Kaji moona, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: His heel persona that he played in WCW with the face paint and all that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's something that he brought back to Japan.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He was occasionally the great moody.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He would bring that character out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Not too dissimilarly than the way Finn Balor would summon the demon when you really needed it for a big match, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I just thought, am I crazy, though, that's been called a moon salt all along?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And there are people all know, no, no, they've been calling it the rounded body press ever since.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's like, well, all right, so I went back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I went through a bunch of old Mudo matches.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I bring up the first one and son of a gun, they called it a rounded body press.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can hear it round that the button press.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, huh, am I losing, I must be nuts.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I thought that can't be, how?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I went to other matches.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, I heard a bad, I saw a match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was Junji Harada, the G1 special in 1995.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I rode down.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He hits the move at the end, like he always did.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was about a finisher back then, you know, wasn't a middle of the match move or, right, even Sonata uses it to set up as finisher these days, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: But it was always very close to the end of the match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they clearly call it moon sulto in this one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, yes, that goodness.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that was 1995, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I went through a bunch of his matches when he even saw it top.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't know what else to say except sometimes they call it rounded body press, sometimes it was called moon salt.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was just like, what, huh, then I started to listen to the voices.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, not in my head.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The voice, which is you, you walked right into that one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's no, I need to clarify.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Not the voices in my head.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I started listening to the voices of the announcers, just like today, New Japan had multiple play by play announcers in the 90s, just like they have multiple ones today.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sometimes we're out of silence, sometimes it's not.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you know that they would have different guys doing the call and I started to recognize patterns in the voices as I went through these things and listen to the call so.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mentioned before that the best way to be wrong in wrestling is to use words like always never, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Correct.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So saying that was always called rounded body press, incorrect.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There wasn't an answer that called it a rounded body press.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was also what we call a quibble.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Stephen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There was also another announcer who called it a moon salt.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Clearly moon salt.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I could recognize the voices, you know, like they had distinct voices.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There were two different guys that were doing play by play.

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[SPEAKER_01]: One call that a month saw, one call that were out of buy press.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Therefore,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Therefore, I was wrong in saying Walker was wrong, because that is a name for that move.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And if the current New Japan announcers have decided to go with routed body press, and clearly Sanadas is a nod to his mentor and hero KG Muto, no doubt about that, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he does tributes to Muto, subtle ones, sometimes more obvious ones, doing the moon salt and smatches is clearly one of the his Moravius ones.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He does a lot of tributes to Muto, that's his guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So if they have decided that we're going to call it round about your press, then that's one thing that Walker did not do wrong.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I want to say that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: First of all, I want to correct myself.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I also wanted to say, it wasn't always that dog on it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They did call it a moon salt sometimes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it wasn't just an American thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was, I spent hours on this journey, did like it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I, I was combing through dog on matches.

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[SPEAKER_01]: this is how into the minutiae get sometimes this actually drove me up a wall so if they did it did it did it if it folks up there want to trigger me this is the way to trigger me if any of you are hate listening to us right now and want to trigger Stephen Conway this is the kind of stuff that works we've got Monday or two.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Thanks Nick Reaves.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah I mean it Reaves.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Thanks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, Monday or Tuesday will you text me about this?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't remember, I still like to do that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You just hold text in me and I died laughing because I knew what had happened.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You went down the rabbit hole and I did.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was more immune by the fact that it was so easy to dial you up over this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And like you went down the rabbit hole, you did your research, you did what you were supposed to do with a historian and you actually went and you sourced the material to see.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What was the real truth here, you know, you like you did the work, which as ring side replay.com your website as you are want to do good on you, I will give you that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, there's, yeah, all right, I see out there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I see he's the same up there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I see happy to help.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Have you ever been a Tuesday night?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You only had a Tuesday night.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going up on this in any way, shape or form.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But you, you were the Jay-Jone of Jameson to Walker Spider-Man, I'm going to like that medist, that criminal, that narrative well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: How could he possibly get that right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, we got the right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But when Jay Jones Jamson was being choked by the Green Goblin, he did not give up Peter Parker did it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, there's still some good in him too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He said, I don't know, stuff comes by name.

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[SPEAKER_00]: In all the war, it's actually a very sympathetic and positive character.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, like the main aspect that you see in the way to move you about, you know, the JJ Ksenin, he does a fantastic.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Gee, Joe and Jameson, but a little on a growth in the comments and we don't have time for that right now, but being compared to Jay, Joe and Jameson is not the criminal sent it to you think it is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's say the only one thing for Nick here, he says, I was also pretty sure the two moonsault came from Muto until the match as I investigated happen to say, rounding body press, then it had me questioning myself.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's funny, too, because, of course, whether they say rounded body press or they say moonsault,

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[SPEAKER_01]: they say it in English in the middle of all this Japanese.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, so when you're doing it, it kind of goes by very quickly because it's also during a key moment in the match in a very exciting moment in his match, especially in the 90s fast paced.

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[SPEAKER_01]: stuff, and then you would suddenly hear just the word Moonsalto in the middle of this long Japanese sense, or rounded up body, rounded up body presser, you know, that because everything has to end on a vowel sound, it's a syllable and not a consonant type of thing in Japanese.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, and Nick Reef says he prefers rounding body press as the technical name for the move.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, I'm good with Moonsalto.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've been using it for 30 years,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, enough about the other we know that both are viable.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm so happy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, my goodness.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That is the takeaway, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're both viable.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they're both correct.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Which means Walker was right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is right to call it that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There you go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There are plenty of reasons why Walker's about an answer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This isn't one of them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: JJ, I'm gonna find it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Never die.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, now let's talk about that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's talk about the G1 climax.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we had five shows this week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm not going to spend a whole lot of time on the attendance this year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know I usually go over that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what else to say except some of it was up and some of it was down, but like gun mows down.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She said, woke up was up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yokohama drew pretty well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: In fact, it was one of the better crowds.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Funny Jeremy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The show when Yoko Hama did well, did about 2700.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's barely more than seriism did.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But it's more than anybody else has done.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And seriism, she put almost 2,600 in that place for that thing, for her own independently promoted show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So any questions about whether she's a star or not?

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[SPEAKER_01]: She almost outdrew New Japan with her dream card.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's pretty impressive, both as a wrestler and a reporter.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway,

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[SPEAKER_01]: healthy crowd, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

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[SPEAKER_00]: is encouraging and I feel like people are going to want to see this caliber of show moving forward like they've sold a bill of goods that they can sell upon next year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think the people that went were disappointed with the action very often.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There were a couple of nights that did not shine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we saw some of that this week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There were, I don't know if she's woke is going to go in the books as a classic night of wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But for the most part, people saw at least one or two really good matches per night.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I would say most of the time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would agree with that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What I wanted to interrupt with and I apologize, we never do this, but if you're listening, if you're watching and you just wanna do me a favor,

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[SPEAKER_00]: like subscribe, tell a friend, if you like the G1 coverage that we've done this whole season, and you think that we've done good work, tell somebody somewhere, you know, just let people know about seeing a strong style.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We typically don't advertise ourselves and oppose this in some places like Reddit and Facebook and just kind of on-outs, but like we rely on word of mouth and

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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like we're doing good work here and I wanted to encourage people to talk about it more if you were so inclined.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It would be very much appreciated.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well said, all right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it does help the show by the way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It does help people find it says it puts us in more searches.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That is helpful if you like us.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And if you don't like us, just pretend we didn't say anything.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, absolutely absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you want to hate, actually, if you want to hate, watch us, please do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, let's take a look at the G1.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to start with a block and just we're going to run down the top finishers and go right to the bottom.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we're going to look at the winners, go down to the folks that finished with a fewer and fewer points.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll just do it that way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the A block was one by the IWGP Heavyweight Champion Yoda Suji.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's who ended up winning a block.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now let's take a look about how he got there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And in the he began the week with eight points which was put kind of a gaggle of guys around that eight and ten point range.

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[SPEAKER_01]: In Gunma, he defeated Great O'Con in a pretty dull match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: O'Con works, Suji's arm a lot, but not everything landed, and it looked bad sometimes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Suji won with a couple of gene blasters, and afterwards, afterwards in the post-match comment, Suji said everything I was saying about O'Con, that his mind is elsewhere, he seems to be more interested in his side quests, so to speak, his gamer stuff,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Showing up at playing video games and things that he seems more interested than that than being a pro wrestler That's what Suji said.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's almost worked for work, but I was Get the vibe I was getting off a great O'Con in the last week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I feel a little bit justified with that rant I did on O'Convison Then you're got to a K-Fade go after him too because yeah, they're obviously going to feud after the G-1 But he really got to go in on him in such a way where it's like You're really you're really

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[SPEAKER_01]: I believe, I believe Oscar is feuding with O'Con.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it works, but they're the K-fade part of it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But if you lift it to, you're like, wow, you are, you are swinging at every meatball over the plate here by you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: My favorite one is he said, every time I see great O'Con, I lose one percentage of hope for my life.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, and it's just a great O'Con, but as for Yoda Fuji, there was an aspect of him near the end of this tournament that was almost, like, I'm going to really lay it into the people that I think need to get laid into, um, he had this match, and then he had the Jake we match,

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't know what happened to Jake Lee, but Jake Lee was not on the show today, and he has a neck injury, and it will directly after this match with the other Suji.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and yeah, I'm not sure really what happened there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't really see a moment where he would have gotten hurt that looked severe.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But in Shizuoka, he and Jake Lee went third in the on the night.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't great either the third G1 mesh.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Lee put on, he put clown makeup on Suji.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and then soon you start acting goofy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I could have done without that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I could have done without the whole clown thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Susie ended up hitting a double stop from the second rope to the floor on Lee.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought he got hurt.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It would be there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe that was it, Steven.

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[SPEAKER_01]: man, but he said it was a neck thing and I don't know, but anyway, he attempted a fireblaster and ran into a knee hard from Jake Lee.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There are triple-h levels of knee-based offense coming from Jake Lee right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you remember when triple-h, the only thing he knew how to do is use his knee on everything when he was plotting through his boring matches during the early days

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think it was WWE yet, but when we were suffering through those triple H days, the knee-based offense, Jake Lee's kind of going with that, he also hit the fire blaster on Lee, but this might have been it, it might actually might have been the fire blaster, because Lee's head hit the bottom rope turn buckle.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's too tall to be in the normal spot for a fire blaster.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You notice how the, when you're in the fire blaster, sushi wants to get ahead of steam up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So the opponent usually isn't standing in the middle of the ring.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's usually more toward a corner and he gives kind of spun around.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, Lee is tall enough that his head hit the bottom turn buckle.

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[SPEAKER_01]: when he hit that fire blaster on him, we might just be too tall and he's to move more toward the middle of the ring to take that move.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That could have been it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And anyway, he wasn't on the card today.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know how to put this other than, there are way too many moments in this match that you just described in which

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yoda Suji could have messed up Jake Lee's neck and he just probably did over and over and over again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The last time Jake Lee was out he ended up being out for a very long time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The fact that it

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not necessarily sure that this is the example that you ought to so you should be setting for the promotion, but if you want to like enforce the set of standards of how these shows and how these guys should be wrestling, this is one way to do it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't recommend it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I don't think he was trying to hurt Jake.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think Jake was too tall than to be in that spot to take that move.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's, you know, so.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, well, what's seriously supposed to do, but pull them a few inches earlier and do the movie.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I'm just saying like you would have said you really just in after it in this patch.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I guess I didn't see the same thing if you were very aggressive and a lot of the spots were things that jakeley typically doesn't do in a lot of his matches and he did them with the world champion and a big end of g one match and it is not jakeley strong crew.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, Nick also mentions that Oscars must also be feuding with Tana Hashie because he kept calling attention to how heavy Tana Hashie is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just feel like at one point he had to scatter away from the ring side table because guys were fighting on the outside and Tana Hashie's knees were

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[SPEAKER_01]: Creaky is always and he, you know, kind of ambled up the way that's going to say he can barely stand it up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's gotten so fast, which he's pretty funny.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oscar just English is the second language, but he's funnier than most of the roster in English, even though it's not as native.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he had the the quiet English where you just kind of like he's he's he's still thinking, but he's he's speaking at such a pace where you've not.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's not slowed down, but he's taking his time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so every the delivery is just so subtle.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you just got to like, it lands with a thought a couple seconds after you hear it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's like, all right, it's got to work and brain behind him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, as for Tonahashi, he did the tribute for Dory Funk last week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I looked at him and I didn't get a chance to tell you this, but you have this theory that he might be wrestling, Gabe, get it, wrestling kingdom.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And when I looked at him at that, maybe, yeah, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, you remember, he always got himself into shape for the concorsa until late in this career.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So he would, he would drop, he could cut, he could do a wicked.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, you know what I'm doing?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to bring up Tana Hashin, Corso, great now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, then we have, so he had to deal with a couple of bad matches he had as soon as he did in the end there, but that put him at 12 points, but it was early in the night, as far as the G1 matches go, there were two more after that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Suge is usually in the semi-main event or the main event being the champion, so in this case he had to sit and wait, but he was on 12 points and in pretty decent shape.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Next, we will talk about the other person that ended up making the semi-finals and that's Rio Heo Heo.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Big Roy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He began the week on eight, so he was back a ways.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he faced Lee in Gunma, of course, as soon as he was on eight also.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But again, there were a lot of people on eight when this week began.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it was wide open.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Face Jake Lee in Gunma, Lee started without any makeup and in his old Noah gear, which was an odd to O.E.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We were wanting to face the pro wrestling Noah, Jake Lee, that he remembered from his excursion.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was his request and Lee gave it to him for a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There was a little more fight and Lee the usual in this one, but at one point you got rammed into the ring apron or not the apron part of me, the ring post went down on the outside.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Stuck his head underneath the ring and he put on the makeup under there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He put on the some clown makeup.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess he had it stuff in his tides or he had a little kit down there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So the whole idea was he did it for a while, but then the the clown the crazy Jake Lee showed up again.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, we ended up working that headlock into a submission.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's been doing that everywhere.

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[SPEAKER_01]: His match, it's just a welcome.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was against a Keshta.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that turned into a win and in scenario form.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the story of this match again was, we will work in that headlock and working it and to Keshta working hard to get out of it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But oh, we was just utterly relentless in grinding, grinding this headlock.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Jeremy, years and years ago, like in the 1990s, Dick Murdock and Bob Armstrong, I promise I'm going somewhere with this, work to headlock and smokey mountain wrestling for in a legends batch, and they did it to kind of show what they could do in that they worked to headlock for probably 10 or 15 minutes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Murdoch and Armstrong both great workers and they had a hundred ways for Armstrong to get that headlock on him for Murdoch to work his way out of it and for Armstrong to do one or two things and get him right back into it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And by the end, the crowds popping like it's high spots for each time he did it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This reminded me of that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, we would just kept catching him in a headlock.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Takeshda was really getting over how painful it was and how desperate he was to get out of it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And to keep away from it, yet OEWA would just trap him again.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Takeshda's body language selling this was outstanding.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was a hell of a good match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And

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[SPEAKER_01]: Son of a god, Jeremy, this guy's getting a headlock over.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You got a way over.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, yeah, go to a match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that was the tripping point.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he ended up winning this one with a laryat.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He hit a hard laryat and penned him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But it was the headlock that beat to Keshe.

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[SPEAKER_01]: To Keshe was beat.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, Dave and like, yeah, the blood rushing to his head and then he got clobbered by a laryat and hit the ground hard.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you want to get back up?

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to see a lot more of it this weekend.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that put a big Roy in because that went over to Keshta, kept Kenosuke out of it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So he was tied for the lead in the block with 10 points a week ago.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then he defeated Sanada and Gunma with the raging fire.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No house to torture at all.

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[SPEAKER_01]: in this one was sonata and it was pretty good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't bad.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I shouldn't say it was pretty good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't bad.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That put him in the driver's seat as the only man in Shizuoka going to the event on 12 points.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But he had that type breaker problem with Suji that went all the way back to Chicago in the first event of the tournament.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Jeremy, the one that we attended there in Chicago, he wrestled Suji in the main event lost.

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[SPEAKER_01]: With Suji sitting on 12, he needed to beat OEA and Shizuoka to get through.

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[SPEAKER_01]: When that didn't happen, he was the odd man out of the three guys on 12 points.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So to catch the score, as many points as anybody did in this tournament.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But the tiebreakers were out of favor.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He had the wrong tiebreakers, so you beat the wrong guys and lost to the wrong guys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he will not be moving on to the semis.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But have a hell of a tournament.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Great wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Takeshita, he elevated so much in this tournament.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I got a funny story for you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Dave, like Sunday or Monday, he tends to be any like, I think Takeshita is gonna be going on to the post block because AEW mentioned it on collision at the finals in the sem and final turn at the weekend.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they do that if Takeshita had a big problem in spot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know thing and what yeah, like oh well with it and then you're like yeah, you want to watch it I figured like I don't let him in between two work shifts where you get a 330 in the morning The fact really not impossible, but I might be miserable We'll wait and see on that one anyways A lot of people thought to catch you know where it was gonna be moving forward throughout the tournament That's a very end and the fact that it will real hail you

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[SPEAKER_00]: was a huge shock.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know how many people really thought Rio Hey, oh, it was going to be the guy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And in hindsight, it made call the sentence in the world.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, like we were at the G1 that night, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: The first night show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it was you, myself.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Chris SAMHSA and Damen McDonald for the Super J caps and we were talking about that semi-main event with Oleg Bolton and Rio Helewah and we were like It's very curious that this is the semi-main tonight is because it's Bolton Oleg or is it because it's Rio Helewah and I gambled it with Bolton But it turned out it was Rio Helewah

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, there you go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And let's get some comments on this one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Nick Reeves mentioned this is very true.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can still get the most basic fundamentals and wrestling over if the people do in the move and the people taking the move commit to making it look good, absolutely right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He also says he picks Sushi and Takeshita to make the playoffs and his bracket.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's pretty solid pick.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I mean, do we have the current champion and a former champion and last year's winner?

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's nothing wrong with that pick.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But he says I should have known the tiebreaker between them is going to matter.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then Larry said, I touched the elevator

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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought the TV title, the fact that you actually had the TV title is actually holding him back from advancing because the title is so low down the thing and I don't know like it just there was a thing we're opted for you can get real real close like that and I just it was all it was all kind of like

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, like you said, I did really, really well on the same.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to just kind of like, you could do really well at the very end if you just you pick wrong in your final group, like, that's it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And this is the one question I have for you, Steven, without going into the B-block and who's there right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, the tricky thing is here, it's difficult for me to see that, but it's difficult for me to see just about any combination of the final four main-abending wrestle kingdom.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's, we'll talk about that when we get to the semi-finals, do I see?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, we haven't just got extinct before we really delved into it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, do I see where you, Rio, he or he will versus you to see if he's telling a lot of tickets.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, but we'll we'll we'll we'll get him to it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But the answer is not.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I would love to be wrong, by the way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I've been wrong a bunch in this G1.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So maybe this is the time, but we'll see.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The other contender, by the way, it was one more person from this block, who was really involved and until the end, and that was both, you just mentioned him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he has had a hell of a good tournament.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He lost a goto in a really good match in Gunma.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He lost to a GTR, heck of a good battle.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Go to a score at some late points, but it was too late for him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But Bolton was one of the guys he up ended just terrific match and then he faced O'Con and she's woke a semi-main event right O'Con and the semi-main O'Con did some wrestling with Bolton at the beginning and trying to get over the idea that he wanted to test himself against Bolton But in the end two ref bombs chairs low blows the O'Con hit an eliminator off the apron through a table Bolton didn't get up and was countered out and at that point that eliminated him from things was not a

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[SPEAKER_01]: not a great match and a bit of an ignominious end for Bolton in the tournament having to work for Great O'Con match at the end.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was so annoyed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, we got, we got near the end and I realized if you had this great O'Con match, and I was like, damn it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I guess all the writing on the wall, and I would be like, oh no, great O'Con, I'm gonna walk away with a little bit of a victory on this last night.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's gonna be O'Gosh.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it was painful to watch that match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was actually a thing amazing to me that we went nine for nine on shit match it for Great O'Con.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, I think you're right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think you had a good one the whole turn.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and that did it for the contenders.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we're gonna go through the rest on pretty quick just for the time sake.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Here, Rocky Goro, he started the week on four.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He was eliminated.

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[SPEAKER_01]: His win was over Suji.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We've talked about that for three, probably gonna use that to promote the, that,

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[SPEAKER_01]: He will likely get a mash that will coincide with the premiere of his movie and on all that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what he's going to be focused on anyway is promoting the movie, so that's a big movie.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not, he's not in some little indie here, this is going to be a get a big push.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So he got the win on Bolton and that put Bolton in peril, then go to a beat, you know, ice.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Ice came a good brawl, but go to a great 90s legs and roll them up and that was ice is

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[SPEAKER_00]: So they really, they really worked hard to avoid him getting too many pimples.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sonata, he started the week with six points, lost it to Keshe with the raging fire and good my likely mentioned in a match where he didn't do any house torture stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he didn't do it either in a really good match with Shingo Takagi and Shizuoka.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You might want him that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I liked it a lot and he won it with an O'Connor role after he avoided a pumping bomber.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not at all time classic.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sonata can't do those anymore, but this was a good match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He still has some left in the tank when he's not leaning on house a torture.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And what I was saying to my girlfriend to ginger while we were watching some of this, and I don't think I texted it to you because I wanted to keep it here and fresh.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But maybe Sonata can't go

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[SPEAKER_01]: every night of a tour, but maybe once a week he can pull something out, you know, maybe he's got a little bit left in the tank that if he paces himself and doesn't go all out every night, he can pull out a good match now and then because there were a couple good matches, Suji's match was good, Shingo's match was good, Takeshi's match was good now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Look who he's in the ring with.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Suji was good with almost everybody.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Except Great O'Con, who was actively trying not to be good, then he was in with Takeshta, who's good with everybody in Shingo, who's good with everybody.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So maybe he's at a point where he can bring it out a little bit and be carried by a really good worker.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think he did in the skin.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he had his best matches in joining House of Torture in this term.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the...

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[SPEAKER_00]: He took a curious case and we talked about it throughout the show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, I feel like you've wrestling to keep it job.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's kind of what the takeaway was for the entire time that I watched him do this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the guy's got stuff in the take, man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, he can, he's better than Honda.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, he's better than a lot of these other guys that, you know, they do in the undercard matches and it's curious.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Does he turn baby face?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Does he stay healed?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is he the next jujurotaka hachi?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Or is he the next Hanma?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, there's a path here, and they're actively navigating it with the fan base as to which direction he is going to go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I suspect he's just going to stay healed, but like he could and then he'll eventually like get some weird night of charisma where like the fan, they're just going to turn him baby face despite being healed it's probably the direction that it'll go, but he's not night out and he's not going to be able to be the work-rate guy, but there is an aspect of his connection in New Japan that people just like.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I like you said I've been disappointed too many times when it looked like somebody was going to leave House of Torture and didn't but yeah, I don't think so either, but it's curious that

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[SPEAKER_01]: because he and the reader are in different blocks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They could have house a torture up all of his matches because they weren't doing a twice in one night, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: They could have, and they did, they specifically just had him wrestle straight against both the Keshta and Shingo and it turned out pretty good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I hope they learned something from that, but this company struggles to learn lessons.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I read somewhere and I meant to like book market, but somewhere I saw that the company made a tacit admission that they got on too hard on the house of torture stuff and they needed to dial it back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but they said that for a really, that was part of the house, they made press conferences and statement and commission statements that they're doing this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I'm trying to listen to the fact and it's like a back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: like a back alley conversation that this was like, you know what?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like no matter what we say or do, we have lost, like, a little bit of the trust with the audience over this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, New Japan is like, they're like that employee that you have or who shows up late every day and every day.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're just like, oh, she got, she will have to sound like, I'm really sorry.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to apply myself and I'm going to do and you get a five minute speech about how they're going to do better and then they're 10 minutes late the next day.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They just, but it's all, yeah, they don't, they don't.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're looking at this G1 for the most part.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was all relegated to one contestant rather than the two.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't Sonata, for the most part.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He had a little bit with Kenamaru, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, Dick Togo in the second last match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and then let's just go over some of the other folks here that you know, I said six to start with the Beach Schingo and Gunman, a good fight with some good stiff work.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was the main event.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He handled it well, had a good promo after also.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Has any lost to go, though?

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[SPEAKER_01]: But he was never really seriously in contention.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then Schingo to Kagi,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Another guy who was never really in the serious spot here, he had lost to ice, then the loss to sonata down the stretch.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So he was mostly used to get impressive in, in quote, wins to even up people's records.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So ice and sonata both got a couple of more points off of Schingo down the stretch.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then Great O'Con and Jake Lee finished with six.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you know, I kind of reminded me of Gabe Kid, like two years ago, where he was getting real popular.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right, but he wasn't going to want to hold a lot of matches so they had to get creative with how he was going to lose some of these matches even though like he was massively over with the crowd so like count out knock out all of these things very similar to what happened with the US they really wanted to protect him even though like they knew he was like there were other mouths to feed first and shingo just a soldier man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: came out every night, did what he had to do, and it was sometimes what it was his turn to feast on on a main event.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He did a great one, but for the most part, like you have just to get a soldier.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Jiggly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And turn on you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You heard what I said.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was nine out of nine bad matches.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Really impressive.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's how bad he was.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Ternan says so far this year one is elevated many guys, but it's on the booking to keep each guys momentum strong outside of the main event picture and that has not been this company strong since so I hope they do but we'll see again this company the struggle to learn lessons and then Jeremy Ours says is Ocon trying to get fired I'm asking for real.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think so.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think he is distracted and I like I've said before.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think what he's doing is he's being great Ocon because that allows him to do the stuff he actually enjoys doing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't think he's trying to get fired, because then I don't think he would be a celebrity.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then if he's not a celebrity, he can't do these appearances.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So he kind of has to be a great outcome.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And in order to do that, he's just not working very hard right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's, you might be demoralized or whatever, I don't think he's trying to get fired.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If he gets fired, he can't do the stuff he actually likes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's A-Block.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we will move on now to the B-Block.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So,

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[SPEAKER_01]: This one was one by Calum Newman.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He ended up winning this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now this was another one where you had a couple of guys on 10.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, just the one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now that I look at this, Gabe Kid was the only person on 10 points.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Then there was a whole slew of people on eight when the week began.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's where we stood.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Gabe Kid in the slight lead.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Newman began the week with eight points.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, B-block had three matches over the course of this week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The A-block had two.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So he beat Oscar and Yokohama in the main of any Yokohama.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was fine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Newman won with a roll-up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't anything special but it was a good enough match for what it was.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He lost to Aaron Wolff and Mia.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, this was a lot of Wolff selling for Newman because he was going over at the end.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Pretty good, Wolff, best part of this one was Wolff slithered off of Newman's shoulders and hit a destroyer on him, which looked great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Then Newman helped a lot too because one of the issues with the destroyer, the Canadian destroyer, whatever version of it you want to look into, there's so much obvious cooperation in it and that the guy really has to

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[SPEAKER_01]: make it clear that he's jumping to pile drive himself essentially, it's kind of a stupid move.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I always thought it was, but nevertheless, it takes some coordination, and Wolf had that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So he hit the destroyer, then he hit the angle slam, then got the triangle.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now that meant that Newman had to win against Henry and Korka and he did in a really tough match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They used two tables on the outside and just like with Bolton and his match with O'Con using two tables doesn't always go like you hope because they don't necessarily all break especially those new Japan tables.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Newman had a horrendous wealth on his back from this match and I was worried about it Jeremy because I know that Newman's very pale.

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[SPEAKER_01]: he's very very British and he's a very pale guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now that he's always all those marks show up, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: But this thing turned

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[SPEAKER_01]: What was that crimson red like a meal of delicious looking gashy kind of Boughts of Cratchy bloody Oh, it's bad and what made me nervous about it Jeremy's it just look like this All this blood underneath the skin and it was right around where his friggin kidneys are it really gave me the wheelies watching it But he got through the rest of them actually seemed seemed alright, but

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[SPEAKER_01]: Michael out on this one share me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you're back, is that messed up now?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Think about it in two days, because it's the second day that's always the worst when that sort is really sets in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like the next day is no picnic, but two days after, man, that's when we're stuff really sinks in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's going to have to do a semi-final match and probably a final match where he's got those marks up on his back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I hope it's just his pale skin that they show up worse

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[SPEAKER_00]: Calvin Newman of Interesting, he could go all the way to the finals, and he could let loose like the next match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, no, if they decide to go to Rioja, we were.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm not, I'm not sure they're not.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Newman has to offspray play.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, well, we don't know that, do we?

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[SPEAKER_00]: We don't know, but, you know, like, they taped collision on Thursday.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Offspray could be in Rio Goku this weekend.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, like, if there are

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[SPEAKER_00]: they missed a window with forbidden doors so they have to make up some time and like advance the plot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And right now before Will wins the AEW title is a very ideal opportunity for them to lay down that groundwork before the dynamics begin to change.

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[SPEAKER_00]: One thing is possible that he shows up this weekend.

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[SPEAKER_00]: As for Newman, he's everything advertised and more.

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[SPEAKER_00]: the match with Wolfe way better than it had any right to be like that's one of the matches that you just kind of like go back and watch it and it's like Wolfe showed up the Calum Newman delivered the mail on that one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like Calum Newman made that Wolfe match better than it was supposed to be and I hadn't looked at Calum Newman like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I hadn't quite looked at it as the guy who could make a match better because he's it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think we're at that stage.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, he rallied with an Oscar and the princess curse on Hennare Hennare used the hidden blade and a not very subtle reference there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he survived it and make way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Wanted.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so he goes through as the number one see, Newman needs to work on the names of his moves of two clunky.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean he's he's british as hell like some people are british he's british and that's you know uh... he's going to be in the list is what i like to call it you had to talk about the room stuff

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[SPEAKER_00]: Zach Saber at least looks like he's body is seen the sun at some point, but I think about that Saber's like napalum death, like super long name that he had for his picture.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to like call Newman if nowhere near as he greets his and British.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is that stupid?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Some of these things, you have to take two breaths to say the name of the move.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, Jeremy Ortsett is Newman the best in ring right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's on one one you like to see.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he's among them right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think probably to I think there will be a lot of people to pay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's one of the best wrestlers in the world, one of the best wrestlers in New Japan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Some people might say, he is the best wrestler in Japan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think he's the best wrestler in Japan, but I'm not going to argue with somebody if they say that he is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now let's take a look at the next name because

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[SPEAKER_01]: One of the few predictions I made in this G1 HADS come true, which is, I said that the loser of the Kalimnum and Uemura match in Chicago would have to do the big comeback story, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: That that was the guy that was going to be backed up against a wall, and whoever was, that was the one that was going to have to really have the strong rally down the end.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, Uemura began this week with only six points.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He had to win out his playoffs, we're already underway.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So in Yokohama,

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[SPEAKER_01]: He beat Henry, and a pretty good match that the fans were not into at all.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it's not quite the word during that match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Bidbolt and a high-fly flow for two, he hit that, he ended up getting a body press to win, which is called the Lion's Shiner, which speaking of terrible names for a move.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Lion's Shiner is awful for a body press.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Again, there's just something missing with the way Moira, but very mild reception to a good match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The opposite happens in Mia.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He beats Gabe Kid in the main event, and the fans really grew into this one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Oymoura kicked out of a pile driver, and that really hurt him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they were into it the rest of the way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he won with an odd version of an insight cradle when a move, Oymoura did where he tried to go over, kids showed there's didn't go smoothly, ended up kind of landing on his knees and had to scramble to get the insight cradle.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So the finished didn't quite go his plan, but it was basically the whole thing

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[SPEAKER_01]: and kid and squeak by him, a squeak by win.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that worked, the people pop for it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that tiebreaker proved to be absolutely critical, because he had to win again in Corrican Hall and he clinched a spot with a win over Oscar in Tokyo.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And again, a match that was pretty good, but at this point, you knew there was no way Oscar was going to be the guy that interrupted this momentum.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's just not us for story here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: with that, he was, you know, at that point, he was kind of in the clubhouse waiting to see how everything turned out, but when he beat Oscar,

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[SPEAKER_01]: That because he had the tiebreaker over Gabe Kid, after that match, he knew he was in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So when the way it all worked out, U.A.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Moro was the guy, part of me in the clubhouse that was in the semi-finals.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The only question would be if he was going to finish in first place or second place in the bracket and when Newman beat Hanoi, he ended up second.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But he was in, and so after the semi-main, we knew U.A.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Moro was in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The only question is, would it be Gabe Kid or Newman?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because the way the tiebreakers worked, Newman ended up getting the victory and the tiebreaker Gabe Kid is the odd person out on 12 points.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just like Kenosuke Takeshita scored 12, but did not move on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was the fate of Gabe Kid.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What did you think of it way more as week?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought for as much crap that I gave Gabe Kid in this tournament about the antit to being long in the tooth or whatever.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought his match with Ui Mura did a world of good for Ui Mura because I thought Ui Mura was able to come off and channel main event babyface energy that he has not had the opportunity and he's not been placed in the scenario to do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the Gabe Kid Match really, really cemented that in the eyes of like

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[SPEAKER_00]: the fans, the people watching at home, the people in the arena, just a lot of credit to Gabe Kid because he had part of his job was to get Uemura positioned to be the guy everyone wanted to get behind through this entire tournament like at the very end, like he's get out to make it through and that gritty and that fight that they had,

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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought we were really managed to channel that like, no, man, I'm New Japan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You are not going to do this to me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I am going to persevere in strong style.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He did all the things that you wanted, the Tana Hash you did do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, like he, he had all of it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I look at this and I see him squeezing in.

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[SPEAKER_00]: to, uh, to the final, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And or say, into the, in the post block play.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I had this match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I had Yoda Suji and you, uh, Uemura as one of the semi-final matches exactly in the scenario.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You, Uemura, second place, you know, to Suji.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because I think you, you, Uemura is not going to be

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, like I see this match and I think he gets the win over Yoda Fuji, but he doesn't win.

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[SPEAKER_00]: the whole thing, but I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You don't want to be like, you're still setting up Challenger for Yota Suji.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're still doing all these things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And could it come down to you, Yota Ui, my lover says, Rio, Rio, Rio, you went in the finals?

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[SPEAKER_00]: God, I hope so.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That sounds like a fantastic match in the final of the face.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Whoever the rest of the kingdom champion is is while you were talking in my mind, I was like, well, why is it for sure that Yota Suji would be champion going into rest of the kingdom?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So like you have a number of factors here that can come into play and I just I like that you are being positioned as one of the top baby faces in a promotion.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm very concerned he is not being positioned as the top baby face and he's going to wrestle kingdom of challenge for the title.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like there is just being positioned to wrestle yoga soji

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[SPEAKER_00]: your objective is complete.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you manage to pin the, you get something out of the tournament and then somebody else can win the tournament.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is how a New Japan book these tournaments.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, everybody gets a little something throughout it and him pinning the champion in post-block play and comes like does he need even more to get over the top and challenger rest looking them?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Does he need to win the G1 as well?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then at that point,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Does you win or does you lose?

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, like they're still like the yield struggle in all a pro wrestling that you climb to the mountain doesn't mean you're gonna actually like make it to the top.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You give me a mirror, it's such a curious case cause they could go all the way with them or they could yank the rug out from it any given time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, so we mentioned that those are the two that went through in the in the Gabe kid was the guy left out in the cold.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He had a buy in Yokohama, so he didn't score any points in Yokohama because his four foot points were already given to him at that point.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he was still intent and then he lost to way more NMA.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So when in the Corican with Tani face Renner reader, they fought all over the building.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They went through a table in the orange seats before it even got to the ring.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Fans were getting a kick out of this and it's the kind of match that works well in Corican being that

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[SPEAKER_01]: confined area, it's loud, the ceiling's lower, and in a great big space, this kind of match doesn't work as well as it does in the tight confines.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So this was pretty good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he won with a couple of pile drivers and beat Marita and gave everybody the, you know, how's the torture fails?

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's fine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But like I mentioned, Ty breakers didn't work out in his favor and he was out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Ren Marita, he began the week on eight.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He defeated Aaron Wolf, Dictogo attacked him early, Marty was hit with chairs as Togo and Matt's a moto fought.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He ended up cheating like hell and Wolf had to tap to a knee bar pretty much took Wolf out of contention, lost a drill in Maloney and Mia in a house a torture match, but Maloney fought them off and hit the drill a killer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then when Gabe kid beat him in Tokyo, he really didn't have a path forward there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They used him to threaten us with a house a torture member in the semi-final.

01:00:01.948 --> 01:00:18.432
[SPEAKER_00]: During the Renner Rita Gabe Kidmatch, they tried to convince me personally that this was channeling the same energy that Takeshida and Evil had last year at the G1, or whatever they had their match, maybe it was the year before.

01:00:19.052 --> 01:00:21.792
[SPEAKER_00]: Did you get that same vibe of energy between Renner

01:00:25.645 --> 01:00:29.968
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, no, not like not to that point, but I thought it was decent for what it was.

01:00:29.988 --> 01:00:32.550
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you're really, they're really trying to sell me on that.

01:00:32.570 --> 01:00:33.791
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, I'm not feeling that at all.

01:00:33.811 --> 01:00:35.332
[SPEAKER_00]: I just wanted to check if you felt that out.

01:00:35.472 --> 01:00:38.374
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, they might have tried to sell that, but I, I'm not buying it.

01:00:38.434 --> 01:00:40.496
[SPEAKER_01]: No, I'm in a Rita, Rita isn't that good.

01:00:40.916 --> 01:00:43.678
[SPEAKER_01]: But he managed to put together something decent for that.

01:00:43.838 --> 01:00:44.359
[SPEAKER_01]: And, and.

01:00:45.344 --> 01:00:54.972
[SPEAKER_01]: Like Nick Reeves said, there it's the right kind of match for these characters, this, this is the kind of match that those two characters would have, you know, that it wouldn't be confined by the rules.

01:00:54.992 --> 01:00:56.373
[SPEAKER_01]: They would be fighting all over the building.

01:00:56.393 --> 01:01:05.540
[SPEAKER_01]: They'd be cheating each other blind, you know, that all of that played to the logic of the characters, you know, but no, that Evelyn.

01:01:06.461 --> 01:01:06.801
[SPEAKER_01]: to cash.

01:01:06.861 --> 01:01:09.303
[SPEAKER_01]: It was a whole different kettle of fish there.

01:01:09.343 --> 01:01:18.548
[SPEAKER_01]: That was, that was evil trying to prove that he wasn't just a house, the torture guy, whereas this was very much a house, the torture match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Correct.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Fair enough.

01:01:23.351 --> 01:01:29.235
[SPEAKER_01]: And Nick Reeves says the only reason they said that is because fans were cheering the house, the torture wrestler versus the outsider, which is probably true.

01:01:29.555 --> 01:01:31.776
[SPEAKER_01]: It's probably why Chris was trying to pass that off.

01:01:31.856 --> 01:01:32.797
[SPEAKER_00]: It was, it was

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[SPEAKER_00]: relevant to the conversation.

01:01:35.279 --> 01:01:37.701
[SPEAKER_00]: I just kind of wanted to, you know, throw it in there.

01:01:37.741 --> 01:01:41.304
[SPEAKER_01]: Drill the Maloney, he lost his act in the beginning of the week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.

01:01:41.764 --> 01:01:43.045
[SPEAKER_01]: It's arm and walking.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is my favorite walk or the week.

01:01:45.427 --> 01:01:48.289
[SPEAKER_01]: Walkers said he's a one arm man and then ask King contest.

01:01:50.350 --> 01:01:52.032
[SPEAKER_00]: You need one arm and then ask King contest.

01:01:52.052 --> 01:01:53.853
[SPEAKER_01]: Apparently you only need one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I guess so.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You got to put your arm from momentum.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

01:01:58.612 --> 01:02:00.234
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, they were back and forth.

01:02:00.314 --> 01:02:03.297
[SPEAKER_01]: Matt submissions, Zach Driver for two, Pin Scramble the Wind.

01:02:03.317 --> 01:02:03.777
[SPEAKER_01]: Pretty good.

01:02:04.498 --> 01:02:13.127
[SPEAKER_01]: And then he beat Nareda in the match we talked about with earlier, where he overcame all the interference and hit the drill a killer on Ren.

01:02:13.647 --> 01:02:19.133
[SPEAKER_01]: At that point, he was mathematically alive, but his final night at Corkin Hall was his buy.

01:02:19.273 --> 01:02:20.495
[SPEAKER_01]: So he couldn't score any points.

01:02:20.555 --> 01:02:21.997
[SPEAKER_01]: He'd already been working all over the points.

01:02:22.357 --> 01:02:28.025
[SPEAKER_01]: So he just had to sit and watch and he just could not score enough to keep in it.

01:02:28.125 --> 01:02:29.466
[SPEAKER_01]: So that was the end for Maloney.

01:02:29.867 --> 01:02:30.187
[SPEAKER_01]: And then,

01:02:31.460 --> 01:02:32.300
[SPEAKER_01]: Zach Saber Jr.

01:02:32.901 --> 01:02:36.042
[SPEAKER_01]: He was out of it with only four points to begin the week and he beat Maloney.

01:02:37.142 --> 01:02:40.264
[SPEAKER_01]: Then he beat Hinaraya and Mia when he took a part Hinaraya shoulder.

01:02:40.324 --> 01:02:54.649
[SPEAKER_01]: He persevered through some of Hinaraya's power moves and they did a ref stoppage for the submit, and instead of a submission, a ref stoppage just to get over Hinaraya's toughness, because we know how Hinaraya's deeply worried about how much of a man he is.

01:02:55.130 --> 01:02:55.770
[SPEAKER_01]: And then, uh,

01:02:56.792 --> 01:02:58.593
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not a good idea to talk to the English.

01:02:58.613 --> 01:03:00.753
[SPEAKER_01]: So, yeah, he's a big deal to Henry anyway.

01:03:01.173 --> 01:03:06.575
[SPEAKER_01]: And he defeated Wolf and Tokyo to make his total respectable.

01:03:07.075 --> 01:03:14.196
[SPEAKER_01]: But he went, so when we look back at this, he scored 10 points and it looks like he had a decent tournament, but he was never in this.

01:03:14.677 --> 01:03:15.937
[SPEAKER_00]: It was all back half.

01:03:18.333 --> 01:03:23.856
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but I mean, you know, it's one of those things where they can go back and say, he had another double digit year, but it was a, it was an awkward one.

01:03:24.397 --> 01:03:26.037
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, well, I'll go ahead.

01:03:26.318 --> 01:03:36.964
[SPEAKER_00]: I was going to mention, when you mentioned Drill Maloney and he kind of had that, like Doom to last night, we didn't mention that when Gabe Kim's match was over on the evening.

01:03:37.344 --> 01:03:41.947
[SPEAKER_00]: He called out showed him, and again, so we're going right back to that feud for Gabe kid.

01:03:41.987 --> 01:03:46.269
[SPEAKER_00]: And I imagine that Drill Maloney will somehow be opening that whole deal

01:03:48.090 --> 01:03:54.832
[SPEAKER_00]: how, who, what, where, why, when remain to be seen, but I think it's all kind of, and the crystal ball for the future.

01:03:54.852 --> 01:03:59.693
[SPEAKER_00]: And I kind of wanted to mention that real quick for people who are trying to figure out what would be next for some of these guys.

01:04:00.273 --> 01:04:15.498
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, you know, I've been kicking around just because kid has been going so hard on Tana Hashie that I thought that, you know, Tana Hashie realizes that they don't really have any draws right now for a baseball stadium and that he might put himself in the match to try to sell tickets and against Gabe Kid, you know,

01:04:16.598 --> 01:04:18.479
[SPEAKER_01]: going all the way back to the Kenny Omega match.

01:04:18.499 --> 01:04:22.360
[SPEAKER_01]: There's that weird connection between the two of them and things, but I don't know.

01:04:22.741 --> 01:04:32.665
[SPEAKER_01]: The key to that is, if they want to do Newman and we don't, we don't know if they have any of this lined up, but Newman and Osprey, if they want to do Shota and Moxley, that's a lot of AEW guys.

01:04:33.665 --> 01:04:40.892
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's a lot of AEW guys kind of losing and there's not a lot of precedence for Tony Khan allowing his guys to go lose places.

01:04:41.432 --> 01:04:47.858
[SPEAKER_01]: So it might not be able to do all that at once, because Tony, we're talking about an RA being insecure.

01:04:48.518 --> 01:04:51.021
[SPEAKER_01]: Tony's very insecure about AEW guys.

01:04:51.121 --> 01:04:56.245
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure protective of the brand and like everybody would, everybody would be the same way.

01:04:56.406 --> 01:04:58.868
[SPEAKER_00]: There's nothing wrong with saying, I don't want my guys to lose.

01:05:00.451 --> 01:05:01.374
[SPEAKER_01]: people.

01:05:02.076 --> 01:05:02.939
[SPEAKER_01]: Come on.

01:05:03.120 --> 01:05:03.662
[SPEAKER_00]: Come on.

01:05:03.682 --> 01:05:05.428
[SPEAKER_00]: But I don't want my guy to lose either.

01:05:05.649 --> 01:05:06.190
[SPEAKER_00]: But they don't.

01:05:07.393 --> 01:05:12.997
[SPEAKER_01]: No, God forbid anything says anything, I know Tony is protected, but yeah, it's everybody is.

01:05:13.377 --> 01:05:14.738
[SPEAKER_00]: Everybody's protected, they're stuff.

01:05:14.758 --> 01:05:18.701
[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't blame him for it, I'm just saying like it's not, it's not just him, the call.

01:05:18.781 --> 01:05:19.621
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, okay.

01:05:20.102 --> 01:05:29.928
[SPEAKER_01]: So after that we had Wolf, like I mentioned, just not his year, I thought when they were positioning him on national television, they clearly had plants for him and he is a good worker.

01:05:29.968 --> 01:05:32.390
[SPEAKER_01]: I think if anything, this has shown that he can work.

01:05:32.890 --> 01:05:37.232
[SPEAKER_01]: and that he's starting to add good facial expressions, better facial expressions to his matches.

01:05:37.632 --> 01:05:41.674
[SPEAKER_01]: He's even developing a bit of a promo style that's not half bad.

01:05:41.694 --> 01:05:51.899
[SPEAKER_01]: A lot of potential with this dude, okay, this year maybe I'm maybe I'm a year or two to early or I mean, if they're going to push him any way, like they have with the others, I'm about six years to early.

01:05:52.559 --> 01:05:57.021
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, but bro, like you did, uh, nothing wrong with it, but at the end of up on eight points.

01:05:57.561 --> 01:06:15.564
[SPEAKER_00]: basically from what we saw in the first night at every region to believe that they could go all the way with this guy like he's the good and that match with Talon Newman you know like the match with that temperature here is a little more tongue and cheek than I'd like but I think they might be saving like the serious match for later on.

01:06:16.280 --> 01:06:18.102
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's a good point too.

01:06:18.122 --> 01:06:25.929
[SPEAKER_01]: I think there might be more between those two to come, and maybe this just wasn't the time to pull out all the stops because they're going to do something down the way.

01:06:26.049 --> 01:06:26.710
[SPEAKER_00]: It will happen.

01:06:26.810 --> 01:06:31.795
[SPEAKER_00]: And you knew that they could do something really great, but this wasn't the place to do it.

01:06:32.613 --> 01:06:56.642
[SPEAKER_01]: and Oscar and Hennara also finished on eight so it's very even block really everybody was informed with it four points of everybody else except for poor showed who got hurt on the first night so uh and Hennara mostly had good matches he didn't really have any turkeys and Oscar was terrific and he was even better on commentary so uh his stories in the tag team division for right now but literally i think eight you know the twenty guy that are in a better position now

01:06:59.220 --> 01:06:59.640
[SPEAKER_01]: I think so.

01:07:00.080 --> 01:07:07.244
[SPEAKER_01]: I think they did a nice job in emphasizing a lot of guys' strengths and hiding a lot of weaknesses.

01:07:07.264 --> 01:07:11.446
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I can say with the exception of a couple that there's O'Con, her to zone standing.

01:07:11.666 --> 01:07:17.408
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think Lee came out of it looking particularly great, but just about everybody else had moments.

01:07:17.889 --> 01:07:18.069
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

01:07:18.309 --> 01:07:18.469
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:07:18.489 --> 01:07:18.629
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:07:18.949 --> 01:07:21.790
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think like Turin mentioned earlier,

01:07:27.750 --> 01:07:34.495
[SPEAKER_00]: move along with this momentum and not lose the goodwill and the excitement and the pace that we have.

01:07:35.216 --> 01:07:39.779
[SPEAKER_00]: Do not go into the rest of the year with like 10 and where it's tough.

01:07:40.100 --> 01:07:46.144
[SPEAKER_00]: Do focus single batches with a lot of these guys and make it matter.

01:07:47.625 --> 01:07:49.787
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, now let's take a look at what we have this weekend.

01:07:51.512 --> 01:08:13.966
[SPEAKER_01]: Not a lot of information to be honest with you, we have just checked just because we're doing this live on Thursday here as of now the only matches that have been announced as we're sitting here recording this by the time you hear this might be changed, but as we're doing this the only matches that we know of for Saturday at Simo Hall and almost sold out Simo Hall getting close.

01:08:18.849 --> 01:08:28.812
[SPEAKER_01]: The Rio Heo heo heo versus Calum numen semi final and the tens on retirement match against Satoshi Kojima, which is a 500 exhibition so we don't have any of the other matches.

01:08:28.852 --> 01:08:30.033
[SPEAKER_01]: We have absolutely nothing.

01:08:31.113 --> 01:08:39.936
[SPEAKER_01]: For Sunday's show at Sumo Hall, which is not sold out and that is going to be the final obviously, but we know nothing else about the rest of that card.

01:08:40.676 --> 01:08:41.056
[SPEAKER_01]: Interesting.

01:08:41.076 --> 01:08:43.277
[SPEAKER_00]: More five undercard faction matches.

01:08:44.077 --> 01:08:46.118
[SPEAKER_00]: If you're, if, yeah, I'm all certainly.

01:08:46.628 --> 01:08:52.491
[SPEAKER_01]: But, and maybe some people that we haven't seen, they brought, for instance, they brought back show, Jose Fujito was on commentary.

01:08:52.511 --> 01:08:54.132
[SPEAKER_01]: We might see some people that haven't been on the tour.

01:08:54.532 --> 01:08:55.153
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure we will.

01:08:55.633 --> 01:08:57.334
[SPEAKER_01]: The other thing is Jeremy, I noticed this.

01:08:57.734 --> 01:09:00.295
[SPEAKER_01]: We've talked about how the Japanese love a retirement, right?

01:09:00.735 --> 01:09:01.376
[SPEAKER_01]: Love a retirement.

01:09:02.396 --> 01:09:08.379
[SPEAKER_01]: The semi-finals are almost sold out because it's tensons retirement, but plenty of tickets are available for the final.

01:09:08.439 --> 01:09:08.660
[SPEAKER_01]: So,

01:09:10.000 --> 01:09:19.810
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a little it's a little concerning that you know like Harry or she tensons retirement out draws the G1 finals But that's the reality that we're in right now with this company.

01:09:19.930 --> 01:09:21.672
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not surprised at all.

01:09:21.692 --> 01:09:22.773
[SPEAKER_00]: I would have been on that myself.

01:09:23.511 --> 01:09:24.091
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, oh, yeah.

01:09:24.131 --> 01:09:40.078
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I mean, it was going to happen, but it is a bit of a stark contrast just to see that the five-minute exhibition and the ceremony is going out, draw the match that will put New Japan on its course for the second half of the year.

01:09:40.958 --> 01:09:44.720
[SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, again, not a lot of draws in this company right now.

01:09:45.020 --> 01:09:45.700
[SPEAKER_01]: We're working on that.

01:09:46.040 --> 01:09:46.720
[SPEAKER_01]: We're working on that.

01:09:46.740 --> 01:09:47.821
[SPEAKER_01]: Hopefully they're working on that.

01:09:47.841 --> 01:09:48.201
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll see.

01:09:48.861 --> 01:09:50.562
[SPEAKER_01]: But so, as we look at this,

01:09:52.820 --> 01:09:57.824
[SPEAKER_01]: You and I both agree that it doesn't make a ton of sense for the champion to win the tournament, right?

01:09:58.705 --> 01:09:59.025
[SPEAKER_01]: Correct.

01:09:59.506 --> 01:10:06.111
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so let's say that Suji loses at some point this weekend.

01:10:06.131 --> 01:10:10.175
[SPEAKER_01]: I can see Ulymura beating him in the end to go to the finals.

01:10:11.336 --> 01:10:12.336
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't have any trouble with that.

01:10:12.476 --> 01:10:18.542
[SPEAKER_01]: I also don't have much trouble seeing Suji going to the finals and putting over the winner of Newman O'Leewa.

01:10:19.502 --> 01:10:21.264
[SPEAKER_01]: How do you think this is going to play out?

01:10:27.703 --> 01:10:34.712
[SPEAKER_00]: Realistically speaking, I think there's a 33% chance that you know the suit you went, that real, hey, a little wind, or you get a little more wind.

01:10:35.593 --> 01:10:46.225
[SPEAKER_00]: I do not think the Calenum is going to win, mainly because it was already the main event of Dominican, and it's not that hot of a match that you're going to run it back again.

01:10:47.138 --> 01:11:01.251
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that's just fundamentally why Yoda Fuji in the newspapers in the press this week did the whole if I win the G1 I get to name my own champion and it's like why beat around the bush.

01:11:01.651 --> 01:11:02.772
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's just make it night out.

01:11:04.130 --> 01:11:06.311
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, there you go.

01:11:06.351 --> 01:11:10.893
[SPEAKER_00]: We've had the conversation and the chances of it being night I feel like it's very slim to not.

01:11:11.253 --> 01:11:18.877
[SPEAKER_00]: But right now, I'm hedging more swim than none because we already had the conversation about never and always beginning of this podcast.

01:11:19.237 --> 01:11:25.620
[SPEAKER_00]: And from the get go, there has always been the sense that yo, dude, you could win this whole thing and then call his shot.

01:11:26.200 --> 01:11:26.741
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, yes.

01:11:26.981 --> 01:11:28.321
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'll bring this up, too.

01:11:28.581 --> 01:11:29.862
[SPEAKER_01]: This is what makes it a little more

01:11:33.337 --> 01:11:34.237
[SPEAKER_01]: what you just mentioned.

01:11:34.618 --> 01:11:36.918
[SPEAKER_01]: They need something special for this show.

01:11:36.999 --> 01:11:46.102
[SPEAKER_01]: They have to know that they've done way more of versus Suji to the point that there was a pseudo blow-off match already with the hair versus hair a while back.

01:11:46.882 --> 01:11:49.203
[SPEAKER_01]: It isn't a baseball stadium match.

01:11:49.864 --> 01:11:53.485
[SPEAKER_01]: Suji versus OEWA, not a baseball stadium match.

01:11:54.045 --> 01:11:59.187
[SPEAKER_01]: Suji and Newman, we've already done it a couple of times, not a baseball stadium match.

01:12:00.468 --> 01:12:00.668
[SPEAKER_01]: Now,

01:12:02.585 --> 01:12:15.147
[SPEAKER_01]: Tetsuya and I don't just want the GHC championship, I WGP title versus GHC title in the main event of rest of kingdom under the Dan ownership banner.

01:12:15.933 --> 01:12:19.214
[SPEAKER_01]: with Tetsuya Naito making his return to New Japan.

01:12:19.834 --> 01:12:26.836
[SPEAKER_01]: If he were going to come back for a New Japan show, this would be the one, GHC chat, we just talked about.

01:12:26.976 --> 01:12:35.017
[SPEAKER_01]: Last week, how, well, we're about to talk about again, about how the different promotions have worked together when it regarding tens on and Kojima.

01:12:35.818 --> 01:12:39.318
[SPEAKER_01]: They faced each other title versus title before and not at the dome.

01:12:39.759 --> 01:12:41.579
[SPEAKER_01]: And in the case, we're going to speak about in a minute.

01:12:46.140 --> 01:12:47.781
[SPEAKER_01]: that's a baseball stadium match.

01:12:49.281 --> 01:12:50.042
[SPEAKER_01]: Just put another.

01:12:50.362 --> 01:13:02.447
[SPEAKER_00]: I, I, it was Bushy road that didn't want to back, but cyber, cyber, cyber agent and TBSA, he, are well aware that night it was cooked, but

01:13:03.440 --> 01:13:06.581
[SPEAKER_00]: can do they believe that Suji could get him through a match?

01:13:07.102 --> 01:13:10.243
[SPEAKER_00]: That's the 33% that I have right there.

01:13:10.563 --> 01:13:14.305
[SPEAKER_00]: Then it comes down to Owewa and U-U-U-Mura.

01:13:14.605 --> 01:13:20.708
[SPEAKER_00]: And realistically of the three guys that I mentioned, U-U-Mura should be the guy.

01:13:20.728 --> 01:13:25.350
[SPEAKER_00]: He's been the guy positioned for the last couple years to be the big challenger except

01:13:26.210 --> 01:13:48.741
[SPEAKER_00]: they haven't booked him in a way consistently that people can get behind them and that momentum of people really want to see you have be Yoda's suit she like it just does not exist that that feeling does not exist and so you could do that or you could do real hell you which is the dark horse candidate 100% like the

01:13:50.658 --> 01:13:52.060
[SPEAKER_00]: Really, you're going to do real.

01:13:52.080 --> 01:13:59.610
[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, we, whoever says Yoda Suji or versus the rest of Kingdom champ, like the IWTP champion, I need to correct myself.

01:13:59.690 --> 01:14:02.053
[SPEAKER_00]: It may not be Yoda Suji at the thing, right?

01:14:02.647 --> 01:14:05.750
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and it also might not be a rest looking to be in the last couple of years.

01:14:05.770 --> 01:14:10.535
[SPEAKER_01]: The G1 champion hasn't even challenged at the dome, like the G1 champion is challenged before that.

01:14:10.775 --> 01:14:12.797
[SPEAKER_01]: We have destruction in Kobe, still coming.

01:14:13.217 --> 01:14:15.499
[SPEAKER_01]: We have King of Pro Wrestling, still coming.

01:14:16.200 --> 01:14:17.581
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll pause in another little while.

01:14:17.601 --> 01:14:18.022
[SPEAKER_01]: That's there.

01:14:18.042 --> 01:14:18.402
[SPEAKER_01]: You have to.

01:14:18.422 --> 01:14:19.023
[SPEAKER_01]: You're real quick.

01:14:19.523 --> 01:14:21.365
[SPEAKER_01]: What if Calum Newman wins this thing?

01:14:22.866 --> 01:14:24.188
[SPEAKER_01]: Challenges for the title.

01:14:25.451 --> 01:14:27.372
[SPEAKER_01]: loses the challenge.

01:14:27.872 --> 01:14:30.492
[SPEAKER_01]: Blames will ask Ray for it for whatever reason.

01:14:30.812 --> 01:14:33.073
[SPEAKER_01]: And then that's how you spin Calam off.

01:14:33.733 --> 01:14:36.834
[SPEAKER_01]: And then Suji's has denied the G1 champion.

01:14:36.854 --> 01:14:37.874
[SPEAKER_01]: Then he calls a shot.

01:14:38.174 --> 01:14:48.577
[SPEAKER_00]: You know that that's a possibility is yeah, I, viable 100% like there are all these things that are like, you've had to fantastic G1.

01:14:50.558 --> 01:14:54.379
[SPEAKER_00]: The problem for me is that after all of this,

01:14:55.560 --> 01:14:56.881
[SPEAKER_00]: I want it to matter.

01:14:57.882 --> 01:14:58.862
[SPEAKER_01]: Sure.

01:14:59.222 --> 01:15:06.287
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want the winner to call his shot of some random king of pro wrestling show.

01:15:07.167 --> 01:15:13.812
[SPEAKER_00]: And then lose or whatever, like they brought back the prestige of this tournament.

01:15:14.892 --> 01:15:15.172
[SPEAKER_00]: Right?

01:15:15.473 --> 01:15:19.815
[SPEAKER_00]: So if, well, champion of the winner, let him call his shot.

01:15:20.476 --> 01:15:21.897
[SPEAKER_00]: If, if somebody else,

01:15:24.255 --> 01:15:36.260
[SPEAKER_00]: Don't mess around, make it the rest of kingdom match, build up both of these guys in a way where it's undeniable that you want to see these two guys at each other's throats in four months.

01:15:37.420 --> 01:15:42.342
[SPEAKER_00]: But this is not the year to get clever because people aren't paying attention already.

01:15:42.422 --> 01:15:43.603
[SPEAKER_00]: You need to keep this simple.

01:15:43.963 --> 01:15:47.024
[SPEAKER_00]: You need to create a build that people can be like, oh, what's going on?

01:15:47.264 --> 01:15:48.065
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, okay, cool.

01:15:48.845 --> 01:15:50.065
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm in.

01:15:50.306 --> 01:15:53.487
[SPEAKER_00]: The more complicated you get, the less people are going to do it.

01:15:53.928 --> 01:15:57.550
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and I know you said that they've restored the prestige of the turner.

01:15:57.590 --> 01:15:59.411
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not totally convinced they've done that.

01:15:59.431 --> 01:16:00.271
[SPEAKER_01]: I understand what you're saying.

01:16:00.351 --> 01:16:01.752
[SPEAKER_01]: It's been a good tournament.

01:16:01.952 --> 01:16:03.373
[SPEAKER_01]: It's been good tournament to watch.

01:16:04.433 --> 01:16:10.336
[SPEAKER_01]: We're not going to know until we get to these other big shows, whether it's done anything to get people excited about New Japan again.

01:16:11.217 --> 01:16:11.957
[SPEAKER_01]: But I don't know.

01:16:12.297 --> 01:16:14.459
[SPEAKER_00]: The consensus of people watching like this is good stuff.

01:16:14.839 --> 01:16:16.960
[SPEAKER_00]: And that goes a very long way.

01:16:18.292 --> 01:16:23.595
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, yeah, but they go part of that a lot of things to do when it comes to watching YouTube.

01:16:23.855 --> 01:16:43.687
[SPEAKER_01]: Doesn't necessarily translate to ticket sales, I'm saying, but I hope that I hope it does, but we haven't seen the evidence that yet, and keep in mind, I keep saying, reminding people, we're not necessarily picking the dome main event on Sunday because the last couple of years, the G1 Champion has challenged well before the dome, and they have used that to set up other wild every year, for example, years now.

01:16:44.447 --> 01:16:46.590
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you know, they need everything to build the dome like turns.

01:16:46.610 --> 01:16:48.291
[SPEAKER_01]: So they need everything to build the dome.

01:16:48.311 --> 01:16:50.434
[SPEAKER_01]: The tickets without time is retirement might be low.

01:16:50.474 --> 01:16:50.654
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:16:50.734 --> 01:16:51.215
[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.

01:16:51.295 --> 01:16:53.457
[SPEAKER_00]: I know we have 20 to 25.

01:16:55.119 --> 01:16:58.323
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh boy, you know, the thing is I wish I could just see a big Russell King.

01:16:58.583 --> 01:16:59.224
[SPEAKER_01]: What's that?

01:16:59.544 --> 01:17:00.725
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I have right now.

01:17:00.745 --> 01:17:01.226
[SPEAKER_00]: Let me tell you.

01:17:01.246 --> 01:17:01.866
[SPEAKER_00]: I really enjoyed it.

01:17:02.307 --> 01:17:03.288
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, you.

01:17:03.568 --> 01:17:03.809
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:17:04.964 --> 01:17:06.065
[SPEAKER_01]: I explained this to people.

01:17:06.105 --> 01:17:09.327
[SPEAKER_01]: If you don't know, I'm, I'm a bit of a curse on these shows.

01:17:09.387 --> 01:17:10.287
[SPEAKER_01]: Here's what I'm talking about.

01:17:10.968 --> 01:17:15.090
[SPEAKER_01]: I went to the show to Umino Zack Saber one, which was a fairly low-attended wrestle kingdom.

01:17:15.691 --> 01:17:17.112
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what, Wrestle Manions?

01:17:17.272 --> 01:17:18.693
[SPEAKER_01]: I have attended in person, Jeremy.

01:17:20.374 --> 01:17:21.294
[SPEAKER_00]: No, I don't.

01:17:22.075 --> 01:17:22.715
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yes, you do.

01:17:22.795 --> 01:17:24.996
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I went to the Chicago portion of Wrestle Mania 2.

01:17:26.012 --> 01:17:32.196
[SPEAKER_01]: which, you know, was WrestleMania 2 was WrestleMania 2 was in three different cities and was weird, and only one of them was sold out.

01:17:32.496 --> 01:17:37.579
[SPEAKER_01]: And it wasn't the one I was in in Chicago, although I saw the best of the three sets of matches.

01:17:37.599 --> 01:17:40.021
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I got to see the British Bulldogs, right?

01:17:40.641 --> 01:17:41.201
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, that did it.

01:17:41.321 --> 01:17:49.586
[SPEAKER_01]: But I went to WrestleMania 8 in Indianapolis, which was Hogan versus Sid and not Hogan versus Flair, which is what we thought we were going to get.

01:17:49.646 --> 01:17:50.847
[SPEAKER_01]: We got Hogan versus Savage.

01:17:50.867 --> 01:17:51.327
[SPEAKER_01]: That was good.

01:17:56.401 --> 01:17:58.483
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, it wasn't a very good WrestleMania.

01:17:58.743 --> 01:18:02.187
[SPEAKER_01]: And then I went to WrestleMania 13 where I got one of the all time greatest matches.

01:18:02.467 --> 01:18:03.168
[SPEAKER_01]: I got Brett Hart.

01:18:03.328 --> 01:18:04.589
[SPEAKER_01]: I quit against Steve Austin.

01:18:04.889 --> 01:18:05.730
[SPEAKER_01]: That was good one.

01:18:05.870 --> 01:18:06.171
[SPEAKER_01]: Brilliant.

01:18:06.231 --> 01:18:06.851
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, it's a good one.

01:18:07.292 --> 01:18:09.194
[SPEAKER_01]: The rest of that card sucked.

01:18:09.534 --> 01:18:10.255
[SPEAKER_00]: It won't go good.

01:18:10.415 --> 01:18:10.775
[SPEAKER_00]: You're right.

01:18:11.436 --> 01:18:12.577
[SPEAKER_00]: So I see.

01:18:13.218 --> 01:18:13.598
[SPEAKER_00]: I went to.

01:18:13.618 --> 01:18:15.580
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not being a pick in this.

01:18:15.620 --> 01:18:16.260
[SPEAKER_00]: I got good luck.

01:18:16.421 --> 01:18:16.801
[SPEAKER_00]: I went to 21.

01:18:18.037 --> 01:18:20.618
[SPEAKER_00]: which was Sina and Batista winning the World titles.

01:18:21.319 --> 01:18:24.340
[SPEAKER_00]: I went to 28, which was Sina and the Rock for the first time.

01:18:25.081 --> 01:18:29.743
[SPEAKER_00]: I went to 30, which was Brian Daniels in winning the World title.

01:18:30.464 --> 01:18:34.946
[SPEAKER_00]: I went to 31, which is Seth Rollins, caching in money in the bank at the World title.

01:18:35.587 --> 01:18:37.368
[SPEAKER_00]: And then I went to 32, which was ass.

01:18:40.829 --> 01:18:41.770
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, you get my point.

01:18:42.210 --> 01:18:45.352
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't have a great track record with going to a overall

01:18:48.223 --> 01:18:56.108
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I have Nick mentioned it's also a weekday rest of Kingdom again, because that's the one thing about having it on the fourth every year is that did a little bit of a way and it's been a week.

01:18:56.649 --> 01:18:57.909
[SPEAKER_01]: Thanks so yeah.

01:18:58.090 --> 01:18:58.830
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm all twisted.

01:18:58.890 --> 01:18:59.430
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll be there though.

01:18:59.871 --> 01:19:04.874
[SPEAKER_01]: And so let's get some comments and then we're gonna get into tens on and then we'll go to that.

01:19:04.914 --> 01:19:12.839
[SPEAKER_01]: So Nick says, I think if sushi goes to the finals till when the whole tournament, this feels like the most viable that a champion winning the G1 has been in a long time.

01:19:12.899 --> 01:19:13.100
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

01:19:13.940 --> 01:19:22.224
[SPEAKER_01]: because I don't feel like the any of the challenges are really big events and he says he says they have not made it clear that the G1 winner will go to kingdom this year either.

01:19:22.645 --> 01:19:26.367
[SPEAKER_01]: The closer we get the less confident I am, this is a January 4th title shot.

01:19:26.907 --> 01:19:31.249
[SPEAKER_01]: And he also says that night those match was Shane Hase for the GHC title was shockingly great.

01:19:31.509 --> 01:19:36.172
[SPEAKER_01]: I think he and Susie could do a good enough restaking to main event even if not a classic.

01:19:37.100 --> 01:19:38.801
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I think so too.

01:19:38.881 --> 01:19:40.242
[SPEAKER_01]: I think sushi can get him there.

01:19:41.202 --> 01:19:51.167
[SPEAKER_01]: And it doesn't have to be an all-time classic because the novelty of if they do it this way, if they do it this way.

01:19:51.907 --> 01:19:59.751
[SPEAKER_01]: The idea of two world champions meeting in nighto's return after years will be enough.

01:20:00.092 --> 01:20:01.772
[SPEAKER_01]: I think that'll be a big enough deal.

01:20:02.653 --> 01:20:04.254
[SPEAKER_01]: So what has been a couple of years, right?

01:20:07.285 --> 01:20:07.485
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:20:07.985 --> 01:20:10.466
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because he and Haromu wrestled at the one I went to.

01:20:10.486 --> 01:20:11.786
[SPEAKER_01]: So all right.

01:20:11.846 --> 01:20:13.206
[SPEAKER_01]: So we'll see how it turns out.

01:20:13.226 --> 01:20:14.887
[SPEAKER_01]: But this weekend, we'll know a lot more.

01:20:14.967 --> 01:20:16.947
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll at least know who the G1 winner is.

01:20:17.747 --> 01:20:25.349
[SPEAKER_01]: And we'll hopefully maybe in the speech, they will give away when they're thinking about challenging because Zach certainly did.

01:20:25.369 --> 01:20:30.610
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think to Keshe did last year, didn't he say that it was, you know, King of Pro Wrestling or say something about zoom out.

01:20:30.910 --> 01:20:34.270
[SPEAKER_01]: Zach specifically said it because he said, that's my event and my building.

01:20:34.310 --> 01:20:35.031
[SPEAKER_01]: That's when I want it.

01:20:38.370 --> 01:20:39.630
[SPEAKER_01]: Here I go, she tends on Jeremy.

01:20:39.650 --> 01:20:40.771
[SPEAKER_01]: Wanna hear a little bit more about him?

01:20:41.311 --> 01:20:42.391
[SPEAKER_00]: We need to, and thank you.

01:20:42.992 --> 01:20:47.053
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, so we left off in 2003 last time.

01:20:47.093 --> 01:20:51.875
[SPEAKER_01]: He wanted his first world title van, and Tenson at that point was a consistent main eventer.

01:20:52.855 --> 01:20:56.537
[SPEAKER_01]: And in fact, after Shinsuke Nakamura had to vacate the title due to injury.

01:20:56.557 --> 01:20:59.858
[SPEAKER_01]: Remember, he lost it fairly quickly to Nakamura after winning at the first time.

01:21:00.682 --> 01:21:03.204
[SPEAKER_01]: But Nakamura had to vacate.

01:21:03.464 --> 01:21:04.104
[SPEAKER_01]: He was banged up.

01:21:04.765 --> 01:21:07.186
[SPEAKER_01]: He wanted right back in February of 2004.

01:21:07.567 --> 01:21:14.891
[SPEAKER_01]: He won a one night tournament in Simo Hall beating Ken's case, Saki, Eugene, Agada, and Jean-Tro, 10 Rue, all in one night.

01:21:15.592 --> 01:21:20.195
[SPEAKER_01]: And 10 Rue beat Tana Hashi in the other semi-final, batch by the way.

01:21:20.295 --> 01:21:22.917
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's how they got to 10 Rue versus 10 Zon.

01:21:25.298 --> 01:21:29.160
[SPEAKER_01]: 10's on beat Nagata and 10 Rupee Hiroshi Tanahashi.

01:21:29.180 --> 01:21:32.001
[SPEAKER_01]: So the next generation was still knocking on the door here.

01:21:33.182 --> 01:21:37.243
[SPEAKER_01]: But two weeks later, he beat Minoru Suzuki for the first defense of that rain.

01:21:38.144 --> 01:21:42.586
[SPEAKER_01]: The main event of the excuse me, the young Y and Mash was Taguchi and Goto.

01:21:42.786 --> 01:21:44.747
[SPEAKER_01]: By the way, that was the young Y and Mash that night.

01:21:45.862 --> 01:21:47.545
[SPEAKER_01]: Still, New Japan was in a bit of disarray.

01:21:48.185 --> 01:21:50.248
[SPEAKER_01]: The older generation was aging out.

01:21:50.288 --> 01:21:54.214
[SPEAKER_01]: That's when the knees were starting to catch up with Muto.

01:21:54.394 --> 01:21:55.496
[SPEAKER_01]: Chono was banged up.

01:21:55.536 --> 01:21:56.557
[SPEAKER_01]: His back wasn't great.

01:21:57.338 --> 01:22:01.504
[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, a car unfortunately they had already lost Shinya Hashimoto gone.

01:22:02.305 --> 01:22:12.739
[SPEAKER_01]: So the older generation, Avesing out, Tenson was one of the current guys with Nagata, Kenskitsake, they came from 90s as well there, but they had trouble sticking with anyone.

01:22:12.839 --> 01:22:16.664
[SPEAKER_01]: And 2004 saw a lot of IWGP title changes.

01:22:17.335 --> 01:22:17.935
[SPEAKER_01]: Here's what I mean.

01:22:18.295 --> 01:22:20.836
[SPEAKER_01]: He lost the title in March, to Kansas case, Sasaki.

01:22:21.456 --> 01:22:24.777
[SPEAKER_01]: Sasaki lost at the Bob Sap 16 days later.

01:22:25.357 --> 01:22:29.178
[SPEAKER_01]: And then it was vacated when Bob's sap lost a K-1 fight.

01:22:29.198 --> 01:22:33.459
[SPEAKER_01]: Then the guy beat Sap in that title fight, won the I-W-G-P title.

01:22:34.439 --> 01:22:37.480
[SPEAKER_01]: And then beat, beating Tana Hashie and a match to fill that vacancy.

01:22:37.560 --> 01:22:41.101
[SPEAKER_01]: So it was fugitive then to Sasaki, Sasaki back to Tenzin.

01:22:41.401 --> 01:22:43.281
[SPEAKER_01]: That was 2004 alone.

01:22:43.481 --> 01:22:45.042
[SPEAKER_01]: All of those title changes were in 2004.

01:22:46.505 --> 01:22:49.127
[SPEAKER_01]: So, New Japan was just going all over the place on this one.

01:22:50.148 --> 01:22:53.511
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, in the meantime, Kajima had gone over to Al-Japan.

01:22:54.351 --> 01:22:55.592
[SPEAKER_01]: He wasn't in New Japan anymore.

01:22:56.353 --> 01:22:58.395
[SPEAKER_01]: The two promotions were very friendly at this point.

01:22:58.755 --> 01:23:00.656
[SPEAKER_01]: Noah was the chief New Japan rival.

01:23:00.696 --> 01:23:04.039
[SPEAKER_01]: They had Masawa Akiyama Kabashi and all that.

01:23:04.079 --> 01:23:05.220
[SPEAKER_01]: That's who they were kind of sweating.

01:23:05.741 --> 01:23:11.825
[SPEAKER_01]: And New Japan, we should fall in off in a little bit of attendance and Al-Japan, which was flat out struggling.

01:23:11.845 --> 01:23:14.127
[SPEAKER_01]: We're sort of huddling together to fight with Noah.

01:23:16.117 --> 01:23:22.921
[SPEAKER_01]: Kojima wasn't even in the G-1 in 2004, but Kojima would win the triple crown title while working in all Japan.

01:23:24.562 --> 01:23:27.904
[SPEAKER_01]: Playing new big names were still in that G-1 though.

01:23:28.265 --> 01:23:31.807
[SPEAKER_01]: Tenson finished second in his block to Tanahashi.

01:23:32.753 --> 01:23:35.196
[SPEAKER_01]: He then defeated, get this list, Jeremy.

01:23:35.216 --> 01:23:45.870
[SPEAKER_01]: Think about this, whether we're going with the next generation or not, or deciding whether or not to, tens on defeated Shinsuke Nakamura, then Ketsu Yorishabata, then Tanahashi.

01:23:46.785 --> 01:23:49.607
[SPEAKER_01]: in the finals to win the G1 for the second straight year.

01:23:49.647 --> 01:23:51.027
[SPEAKER_01]: So that was the playoff bracket.

01:23:51.448 --> 01:23:53.689
[SPEAKER_01]: He defeated Nakamura, Shabbata, Tana Hashan.

01:23:54.149 --> 01:23:59.632
[SPEAKER_01]: So next generation beat back, beaten back, beaten back, all in each word out.

01:24:00.313 --> 01:24:03.935
[SPEAKER_01]: And so yeah, he did win the G1 for the second executive here.

01:24:03.975 --> 01:24:12.380
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, Kojima and Tenson met with both the triple crown and the IWGP titles on the line in February.

01:24:17.218 --> 01:24:18.279
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, how much they teased it?

01:24:18.880 --> 01:24:22.944
[SPEAKER_01]: The time in the match, 59 minutes and 49 seconds.

01:24:23.044 --> 01:24:26.707
[SPEAKER_01]: Control, hold the way to the edge.

01:24:26.747 --> 01:24:30.571
[SPEAKER_01]: Before Kojima won, winning both championships, and that was in a full, symbol hall.

01:24:31.212 --> 01:24:36.938
[SPEAKER_00]: Did you think that we're gonna go and tribute for minute to 49 seconds in the match on Saturday?

01:24:37.158 --> 01:24:37.698
[SPEAKER_01]: It's horrific.

01:24:38.199 --> 01:24:41.202
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know that the issue is, if 10's on goes down, he can't get back up.

01:24:41.848 --> 01:24:44.991
[SPEAKER_01]: Not with that real, not with that with not five minutes.

01:24:45.071 --> 01:24:50.996
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think he want to back in May in the Tokyo dome and show that did not fill up the dome.

01:24:51.777 --> 01:24:56.221
[SPEAKER_01]: So the days of New Japan running the Tokyo dome multiple times a year and selling it out.

01:24:56.401 --> 01:24:56.881
[SPEAKER_01]: Those are done.

01:24:57.302 --> 01:24:58.503
[SPEAKER_01]: We're into an okism now.

01:24:58.943 --> 01:25:08.491
[SPEAKER_01]: He also again in July and then Brock Lesnar won the title in October and he held it until the next year when he vacated it without ever losing that whole schmazz.

01:25:08.511 --> 01:25:10.953
[SPEAKER_01]: We've talked about that another history lessons.

01:25:11.634 --> 01:25:16.077
[SPEAKER_01]: But tens on would remain a top guy and I'm running a little low on time here so I'm going to get through some stuff.

01:25:16.958 --> 01:25:23.942
[SPEAKER_01]: He won the G1 for the third and final time in 2006, so 2003, 2004, didn't win it in 05.

01:25:24.543 --> 01:25:28.465
[SPEAKER_01]: He was involved, but not he didn't win it, and then he won it in 2006.

01:25:29.066 --> 01:25:33.929
[SPEAKER_01]: He and Chono also defeated Tanahashi and Nakamura for the IWGP tag team titles.

01:25:34.589 --> 01:25:40.374
[SPEAKER_01]: So, Tenson was representing that last hurdle that those guys had to get over in order to win.

01:25:40.414 --> 01:25:46.939
[SPEAKER_01]: So, Tata Hashie and Nakamura were winning a lot of things and they were winning IWGP titles and they were winning tag team titles.

01:25:46.959 --> 01:25:53.584
[SPEAKER_01]: So, it wasn't the thing where they were losing losing losing losing to Umino, but they were still keeping that generation of guys.

01:25:53.624 --> 01:25:56.106
[SPEAKER_01]: Tenson, Chono, Sasaki, strong.

01:25:56.841 --> 01:26:02.143
[SPEAKER_01]: It was almost like 50, 50 between them, instead of just some sort of concrete ceiling that they couldn't crash through.

01:26:03.263 --> 01:26:05.984
[SPEAKER_01]: Another key moment for Tenzin happened in 2006, though.

01:26:06.244 --> 01:26:09.145
[SPEAKER_01]: In September of that year, he split with Masa Chono.

01:26:09.845 --> 01:26:18.107
[SPEAKER_01]: And that whole thing led to a singles match in Osaka, which Tenzin won, and that ended the 10 plus year alliance he had with Masa Hero Chono.

01:26:18.167 --> 01:26:21.048
[SPEAKER_01]: They had been partners and allies for a decade.

01:26:22.350 --> 01:26:27.076
[SPEAKER_01]: Following this, Tenson created his own heel faction, Great Bash heel.

01:26:27.757 --> 01:26:30.020
[SPEAKER_01]: And that lineup was originally

01:26:30.942 --> 01:26:35.065
[SPEAKER_01]: Tenson, Togi Makabe, a young wrestler, up and cover.

01:26:35.705 --> 01:26:53.017
[SPEAKER_01]: Tomo Akihonba, who was just in from Big Japan, Toruyano, the whiskey swelling madman, Tomohiro Ishiyi, the Pitville, and Shiro Koshinaka, who was one of the older guys from the 90s generation there, but he was part of the original GPH.

01:26:54.429 --> 01:27:00.310
[SPEAKER_01]: During that time, he also teamed with Kojima in the All-Japan Tag Team tournament, the Zalgoing on concurrently.

01:27:01.131 --> 01:27:11.393
[SPEAKER_01]: They won that tournament in December, beating a very strange team of Suwama, and if you remember the sky from the WWE after Army here at WWE, Rosie, you remember Rosie the yeah.

01:27:11.413 --> 01:27:11.593
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:27:11.613 --> 01:27:12.033
[SPEAKER_01]: So it was Rosie.

01:27:12.233 --> 01:27:13.054
[SPEAKER_01]: So it was Rosie.

01:27:13.074 --> 01:27:13.554
[SPEAKER_00]: So it was Rosie.

01:27:13.574 --> 01:27:13.994
[SPEAKER_00]: So it was Rosie.

01:27:14.014 --> 01:27:14.394
[SPEAKER_00]: So it was Rosie.

01:27:14.954 --> 01:27:15.314
[SPEAKER_00]: So it was Rosie.

01:27:15.334 --> 01:27:15.874
[SPEAKER_00]: So it was Rosie.

01:27:15.914 --> 01:27:16.455
[SPEAKER_01]: So it was Rosie.

01:27:16.475 --> 01:27:16.915
[SPEAKER_01]: So it was Rosie.

01:27:16.935 --> 01:27:17.535
[SPEAKER_01]: So it was Rosie.

01:27:18.475 --> 01:27:22.862
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they beat Muto and Kauata to get to the finals.

01:27:22.922 --> 01:27:24.965
[SPEAKER_01]: So that was probably the best match to the tournament.

01:27:25.205 --> 01:27:27.629
[SPEAKER_01]: Was Kojima and Tenzan against Muto and Kauata.

01:27:28.230 --> 01:27:32.516
[SPEAKER_01]: That was the semi-final match, but they defeated Suwama and Rosy and the finals there.

01:27:32.596 --> 01:27:32.856
[SPEAKER_01]: So,

01:27:33.715 --> 01:27:51.190
[SPEAKER_01]: Again, we're running out of time here, but Tenson entered 2007 as a multiple tag team champion, multiple time IWGP champion, a three time G1 champion, and he was headlining for two different companies and leading a new heel faction.

01:27:52.150 --> 01:27:57.154
[SPEAKER_01]: So he was pretty much toward the top of his game, but trouble was on the horizon.

01:27:57.575 --> 01:27:59.116
[SPEAKER_01]: And we will get to that trouble next week.

01:27:59.476 --> 01:28:00.077
[SPEAKER_01]: I hope everybody

01:28:03.292 --> 01:28:05.713
[SPEAKER_01]: Over and over again, you see guys doing tributes to him.

01:28:06.634 --> 01:28:16.218
[SPEAKER_01]: And we saw some of it where who is it that in Cork and Hall called for a brain buster and ended up taking the suplex instead.

01:28:16.638 --> 01:28:20.620
[SPEAKER_01]: But remember how he used to hook a guy and go, okay, brain buster and then hit the big thing.

01:28:20.800 --> 01:28:26.683
[SPEAKER_01]: The suplex tributes to the sky all over the place, which goes to show how tens on spent.

01:28:27.705 --> 01:28:35.687
[SPEAKER_01]: most of the last decade plus helping guys in the Dojo being a positive influence on people in that locker room.

01:28:36.847 --> 01:28:41.649
[SPEAKER_01]: There have been guys who have trained wrestlers in New Japan who were heavy task masters.

01:28:41.709 --> 01:28:44.389
[SPEAKER_01]: We have heard a lot about Shabbata.

01:28:44.509 --> 01:28:46.730
[SPEAKER_01]: We've heard a lot about Liger and Tiger Mask being

01:28:51.129 --> 01:29:03.017
[SPEAKER_01]: Matt the 10's on it's considered to soft touch, but there is an affection for him among the current group of New Japan wrestlers that you don't see for very many other sensei over the years.

01:29:03.878 --> 01:29:07.240
[SPEAKER_01]: And whatever connection he has with these guys, it's very real.

01:29:07.980 --> 01:29:14.304
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think we're going to have a lot of tissues in the way Spaskin at the end of this one.

01:29:14.344 --> 01:29:17.887
[SPEAKER_01]: I think there are going to be, it's not very going to be, it's not very going to be company, man.

01:29:18.445 --> 01:29:24.391
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think it is because he really means a lot to these guys and pay attention as the show goes on.

01:29:24.551 --> 01:29:30.617
[SPEAKER_01]: I promise you're going to be seeing little bits of tens on they're doing his tombstone pile driver, right.

01:29:30.757 --> 01:29:32.879
[SPEAKER_01]: They're doing the brain busters.

01:29:32.899 --> 01:29:38.224
[SPEAKER_01]: They're doing his his finishing hole this is triangle choke.

01:29:38.405 --> 01:29:39.366
[SPEAKER_00]: You get to all these moves.

01:29:39.406 --> 01:29:40.246
[SPEAKER_00]: Other people are going to do it.

01:29:41.674 --> 01:29:44.916
[SPEAKER_01]: but you don't do that unless the guy means something to you.

01:29:45.256 --> 01:29:47.758
[SPEAKER_01]: And he means an awful lot to a lot of guys in this roster.

01:29:47.778 --> 01:29:53.162
[SPEAKER_01]: So I think we're going to have a very special retirement ceremony Saturday in a symbol hall.

01:29:53.282 --> 01:30:00.687
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I made it the graphic for the show because I thought it would generally, are youably more important than did you in one final?

01:30:01.683 --> 01:30:01.923
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

01:30:01.944 --> 01:30:05.228
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's get to a couple of quick comments before we wrap this one up.

01:30:05.328 --> 01:30:11.277
[SPEAKER_01]: Nick mentions that it's funny and hindsight that's actually a Virginia turn down the Tokyo dome to challenge in Rio Goku for the world title.

01:30:11.738 --> 01:30:15.964
[SPEAKER_01]: And then turn down the Tokyo dome again in the next year to challenge for the tag team titles of New Year's Dash.

01:30:16.705 --> 01:30:19.067
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, that's that is true.

01:30:19.107 --> 01:30:25.172
[SPEAKER_01]: Now he did end up main eventing that Tokyo dome, even though he passed up his title, because he had the match for Shota in the main event.

01:30:25.452 --> 01:30:28.494
[SPEAKER_01]: And then he main event at Russell Dynastie the next day against Ricochet.

01:30:28.875 --> 01:30:36.421
[SPEAKER_01]: So he did end up getting those, but it is funny to say, Zach's character seems to be to dismiss the Tokyo dome in a way.

01:30:36.901 --> 01:30:44.487
[SPEAKER_01]: But and Big Nandives said, Nick Reeves, me and my wrestling friends have loved this G1, the final four exactly what we want it.

01:30:46.770 --> 01:30:50.314
[SPEAKER_01]: And I agree that I honestly wouldn't even be mad if Susie won.

01:30:52.156 --> 01:30:54.158
[SPEAKER_00]: I like all of that.

01:30:54.278 --> 01:30:58.963
[SPEAKER_00]: I like that his writer died made it through like that he wouldn't have said you.

01:30:59.624 --> 01:31:05.110
[SPEAKER_00]: They they cultivated a a roster and a lineup this year where yeah, so do you win?

01:31:05.150 --> 01:31:06.211
[SPEAKER_00]: He kind of earned it.

01:31:07.065 --> 01:31:13.127
[SPEAKER_01]: But let's take a look at this as we look toward this show, this weekend on Saturday, the semi-finals finals on Sunday.

01:31:13.647 --> 01:31:19.389
[SPEAKER_01]: The four men involved, U.I.O.A.Mora, Yoda Suji, Rio Heo-Iwa, and Calam Numan.

01:31:20.169 --> 01:31:25.051
[SPEAKER_01]: The good news is, as long as everybody's healthy, there is not a bad combination in that bunch.

01:31:25.231 --> 01:31:29.912
[SPEAKER_01]: These should be three, however they turn out, excellent wrestling matches to watch.

01:31:30.412 --> 01:31:32.413
[SPEAKER_00]: And it guaranteed first time winner of the G1.

01:31:33.508 --> 01:31:36.725
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's always exciting too, that somebody's going to get their very first one, and

01:31:38.517 --> 01:31:38.777
[SPEAKER_00]: 30.

01:31:38.797 --> 01:31:40.197
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, that's true, too.

01:31:40.237 --> 01:31:48.319
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, if what's missing from this one, you know, the Ren and Shota and all that, but other than that, it's that kind of generation ish within a few years of each other.

01:31:48.339 --> 01:31:50.579
[SPEAKER_01]: We were a Suji and OEWA.

01:31:50.599 --> 01:31:52.019
[SPEAKER_01]: Their careers are somewhat intertwined.

01:31:52.059 --> 01:31:55.280
[SPEAKER_01]: Certainly OEWA and Suji's careers are.

01:31:55.860 --> 01:31:58.200
[SPEAKER_01]: And OEWA was right in there with that.

01:31:58.240 --> 01:32:02.561
[SPEAKER_01]: What OEWA was like, one, generate like one year.

01:32:03.081 --> 01:32:04.502
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, school year.

01:32:04.542 --> 01:32:05.502
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's a good way to put it.

01:32:05.582 --> 01:32:06.582
[SPEAKER_01]: One school year behind those

01:32:07.815 --> 01:32:10.317
[SPEAKER_00]: So you're on your own the clock.

01:32:10.337 --> 01:32:11.178
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's get out of here, buddy.

01:32:11.639 --> 01:32:12.860
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, let's take a look at that.

01:32:12.900 --> 01:32:21.548
[SPEAKER_01]: So when we come back next week, we will talk about the two matches at Simo Hall and look ahead to whatever we learn about the direction of New Japan pro wrestling.

01:32:21.608 --> 01:32:22.709
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll have more on 10s on.

01:32:22.729 --> 01:32:27.894
[SPEAKER_01]: I know it's retirement is this weekend, but we will finish up 10sons time on top.

01:32:28.354 --> 01:32:29.776
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I forgot to mention to you, Stephen?

01:32:30.176 --> 01:32:30.497
[SPEAKER_01]: Go ahead.

01:32:30.817 --> 01:32:31.838
[SPEAKER_00]: We have the guest next weekend.

01:32:33.343 --> 01:32:34.163
[SPEAKER_01]: We have a guest next week.

01:32:34.564 --> 01:32:35.404
[SPEAKER_00]: But that's week we do.

01:32:35.524 --> 01:32:36.825
[SPEAKER_00]: Chris Sam so we'll be joining us.

01:32:37.045 --> 01:32:37.645
[SPEAKER_00]: Hey.

01:32:38.866 --> 01:32:39.446
[SPEAKER_01]: That's wonderful.

01:32:39.546 --> 01:32:47.070
[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to be doing the post break down New Japan landscape with the one the only Chris Sam so the sport of pro wrestling will just be.

01:32:48.290 --> 01:32:50.253
[SPEAKER_00]: breaking it all down what what the future holds.

01:32:50.393 --> 01:32:53.677
[SPEAKER_00]: And I forgot to mention that glad you reminded me that we'll be talking about that.

01:32:54.338 --> 01:32:58.343
[SPEAKER_01]: And we are absolutely incapable of keeping that in the 90 minutes.

01:32:58.363 --> 01:32:59.104
[SPEAKER_01]: So get ready folks.

01:32:59.124 --> 01:33:00.125
[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to be talking for a while.

01:33:00.165 --> 01:33:02.468
[SPEAKER_01]: That's a that's a given when it comes to Chris.

01:33:02.508 --> 01:33:04.130
[SPEAKER_01]: We we always have fun on Chris this year.

01:33:04.210 --> 01:33:05.431
[SPEAKER_01]: So watch out for that.

01:33:05.952 --> 01:33:11.275
[SPEAKER_01]: For everybody that joined us here, thank you very much for interacting with us and for joining us live.

01:33:11.475 --> 01:33:15.097
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01:33:15.137 --> 01:33:18.959
[SPEAKER_01]: We know there are a lot of choices and we really appreciate you being with us.

01:33:19.059 --> 01:33:21.040
[SPEAKER_01]: So for Jeremy Faisal, I'm Stephen Conway.

01:33:21.100 --> 01:33:23.962
[SPEAKER_01]: This has been Speaking of Strong Style and we will talk to you again real soon.