G1 Builds, Forbidden Door Preview & Remembering Tiger Mask | Speaking of Strong Style

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[SPEAKER_00]: We are headed toward a week of crossovers with forbidden door.

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[SPEAKER_00]: New Japan wrestlers out in Mexico with CMLL.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We just had a quirk on a haul show that gave us a little more information on the G1 climax.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's a lot to talk about.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Not all of it is New Japan related.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It seems like everybody's kind of weaving in and out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Everyone else's promotions this time years.

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[SPEAKER_00]: For Bindor Wepe, we're going to preview that show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to talk about Fantasica Mania in Arena, Mexico.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And let's take a look at two more entrants in the G1 climax tournament plenty to go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So with Jeremy Feinstein, I'm Stephen Conway.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is Speaking of Strongstyle.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Welcome, everyone, to Speaking of Strong Style.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We discussed the news issues in events surrounding New Japan pro wrestling and our contributors to the fight game media network.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we're gearing up for the G1.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's a little more to come on that because there are still two slots in the G1 that aren't determined yet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But we now have a schedule.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We have 18 of the 20 participants, and we had a pretty good Corican Hall show this past week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: At least the retail end of it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The number one contenders match Jeremy for the junior heavyweight title, the two matches for the G1 spots.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're pretty good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We've watched some good wrestling lately.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought overall Dominion was fairly good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Again, my cautious optimism about New Japan in the ring was boosted a little more this week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: How are you feeling about what you saw?

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[SPEAKER_01]: very ironic that you asked me the Steven Codes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The other day, I was here in this office, I would do it with some organization, and a friend of the podcast, Dr. Larry, reached out and said, hey, what, you come in and just be asked about whatever, for whatever, what are we just sitting like right here and I'm like, all right, let's do it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And one of the first questions he had was about

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[SPEAKER_01]: as much as I love pro wrestling, like I was so disengaged at this exact moment.

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[SPEAKER_01]: WWE, I'm just not there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We talked about this last week, and the funny thing was, I hadn't watched the Corican show yet, and there was a magic on there that was like, oh, that's why I love pro wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I really have to be about that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then in the irony of me thinking about all these things

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[SPEAKER_01]: recapping a WWE paper view this weekend.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to an AEW and New Japan paper view as a press correspondent and I've really got a temperament that I think is objectively good first of all what I personally like this week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, fair enough.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, we had a couple of events that weren't televised, and we're going to go over not a whole lot of news from those.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They were, they were house show related, but we'll talk about, we'll talk about all that, get into core and home things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I guess you should just take things in order for the most part.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There was the show where Fantasca Mania Mexico took place in Arena, Mexico last Friday.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to talk about that a little bit later.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't have a whole lot to do with, with current NJPW storylines.

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[SPEAKER_00]: when there's a lot of stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This past week, there was an event that was not put on NJPW world going to cover very quickly, June 21st, Toby Machabe's homecoming in Kanagawa and Hokkaido drew all those 1,000 fans Jeremy to that little town in Hokkaido.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Makabe was in the main event.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He went over, it was a six man tag.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He beat Yoshinopa kind of Maro.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So House of Torture was, again, doing the playing the role of the villains for the hometown guy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So similar to what they did in Chiba, for Eugene Agada's promoted show, Blue Justice.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that one, Jeremy, was Eugene Agada, of course, in the main event, teaming up with Josh Barnett.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was good to see Josh Barnett back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Aaron Wolfe, that was the babyface team against House of Torture and again the babyface is one over house torture has been doing playing their role as the villains who do the favors for the hometown folks in the main events.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so just so you have that complete good versus the evil black and white.

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[SPEAKER_00]: contrast in the main Machobagos over Eugene Agada goes over, and it was a cool little moment there in in Cheba, I'll tell you both of these shows drew fairly well, Nagada is a pretty good promoter in Cheba, considering it's not that far away from Tokyo at all, it's where one of the Tokyo

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[SPEAKER_00]: in air quotes, airports is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's where the read airport is in Chiba.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he still manages to draw a decent crowd, despite it being close to Tokyo.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And where a lot of their shows are.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Macabadra is almost 1,000.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So not bad there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, it was a brick show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I think we got in and out and left and somewhere between two and two and a half hours for the whole blue justice show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It will fine, you know, it could show on the roster and the Eugene of God and Josh Barnett, it kind of put a little pet in the step of the show a little bit but I would not call it required viewing for anyone trying to make sure they're keeping up with everything important in expand.

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[SPEAKER_00]: now that you we would save that for the court can all show on June 23rd and that's what we're going to start with here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was 1195 so almost 1200 people.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's in the middle from what we've seen recently.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was better than the April doldrums where people just weren't showing up at all for New Japan in Tokyo.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But not as good as what we saw best of the superjigs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So a little bit in the middle.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And not as good as what all Japan drew a few days before.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They filled the place up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: New Japan sitting at about 1,200 for this one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But the people have showed up, I think, got their money's worth.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And

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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll go over the undercard fairly quickly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There isn't a whole lot to it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It started off sort of house showy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But in the opener, we had Desparado, Mastor, Yasada, and Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Y

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not sure it means anything.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They've kind of been doing this for a while.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't seem to be leading much of anywhere, but there was obviously open.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it was perfectly fine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it felt like nothing was really new where the until we got to the net match where we had a good match, but the commentary was kind of enlightening.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, we had the United Empire that was Great O'Con, Jake Lee and Jacob Austin, young with Zane J.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was the U.E.

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[SPEAKER_00]: team against the go to revolutionary army.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's a goto Matsumoto, yo, and re-escape to Gucci.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, I guess a mix of hauntai and the revolutionary army, Yoshi Hashie, of course, would be in a singles match later on in the evening.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The story on this one was, you know, Jake Lee was kind of doing his clown prince stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He shaved and he looks 12.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He shaved off his go-tee.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He looks like he doesn't have his driver's license.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It reminds what a young face Jake Lee really has without the go-tee.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But, yeah, he didn't have that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He didn't have the face paint on either.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he seemed to be there mostly to annoy Great O'Con.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, of course, I'm sorry that both of these guys are in the G1, you're facing each other.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So there's a little bit of tension between the two.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We, and in the end, O'Con just beat the living hell out of Matsumoto didn't do a whole lot in the match by design.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The whole point was that O'Con was keeping his distance on things until he just grabbed Matsumoto and bounced his head with the claw and got the claw on and bounced his head off the canvas until the referee stopped it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, O'Con is nasty, Jake Lee is playing mind games and they're heading into the G1 against each other eventually.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's like, why are they doing this whole split now?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's great to count on the other.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they're in the same block together in the G1.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was one of those, like, I had to look at the infographic of the G1 for me to, like,

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[SPEAKER_01]: put it all together.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, oh, yeah, you're you're uh, sewing detention prior to a competitive sporting event and they get it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That seemed wise.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, also during this match, uh, Chris Charlton, when especially hard in affirming that Calumnum will probably be at the June one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, sounds like it doesn't.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He spoke so confidently that it was just like a bruising and a bit of internal bleeding in the area that like I felt confident after I was like, well, that's going to be a Chicago and they're not going to be an issue there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So if it turns out that they pull him like two days before, go figure, but I'm kind of leaning towards, yeah, I think that's good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it seems like right now they believe that Newman can go and Newman believes he can go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He might be taped within an inch of his life.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm curious to see that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Just how much can ECO tape is on the dude there?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because I believe he is banged up, but I mean, it's important for him to be in this tournament for obvious reasons.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He already myth one really important match and we'll get into it a little bit later.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think it'll be fine that they didn't do it, but it would have been a really cool match if they got into it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, and you're right, we're gonna get into that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We talk about forbidden door and things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's a bummer that it didn't happen, but probably best to rest and get ready for G1.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're gonna be an important part of G1.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You gotta think that he is penciled in any way to score a lot of points in that tournament and trying to rearrange all that would be very difficult.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I was looking at that B-block and so stacked and I see him doing well in there, like I see him advancing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But man, it is going to be a photo finish with some of those people in that block.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because politically, they've got to protect some of these guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, yeah, exactly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that block's going to be what we're going to preview the live and hack opportunity.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I think you're about all of this right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, there's a lot of subtext to everything that's going on in there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: House of torture was in the next match and that was Dokey Renderita, kind of Maro, and usual talk of Hashi.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They face on down.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, you missed one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I missed one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, could Gima and Umino.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, no doubt.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Wasn't very good or interesting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Could Gima and show to Umino.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They beat Hartley Jackson, Rio Heo, we would.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Nothing much to it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Second chapter on Jackson.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Umino sold a lot here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he was being a little bit too generous in this one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It felt like it was Jeff, like, all right, show to start practicing and going out there big a champion.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, you know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, get your reps in on that, like focus on engaging with the crowd and like selling and just being being championed like in a, in a matricus where it's like he's selling.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He'll do the heat.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He did the baby they fought.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He'll get the win.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There was definitely a lot of showed of the star, even though there was it a whole lot to them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And even though we got beat down a lot, I was just like, come on, now you're the champion.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, you have to be a little bit stronger, a little bit stronger.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like you're in their mind, you have to focus him getting a bucket.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh no.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm not sure if you know, again, the New Japan isn't sure the message they want to send with a lot of different things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: House of torture after that, Dokey Renner read a kind of maro and taught a usual defeat a dyke in a guy, Oscar Shengups Kagi Yota Suji, by referee stoppage, Dokey Choki on the guy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I had almost no notice on this Jeremy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was a match that happened and considering Shingo, Yoda, and Oscar were in it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought we would get a little bit more here, but everybody who came in and second gear and stayed that way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a great way to put it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There were a lot to like about this show, but there was also what wasn't to like, was extremely forgettable.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Not bad, just kind of like, oh, you're ending your out in popcorn.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's sort of, it's sort of, you're about to go on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We are definitely dealing with laziness on the main roster, but especially with the headwits, there's just, say they're there,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's generous that we can see absolutely it, but I always we've seen this we've seen this well apparently they were saving themselves for the G one going back to march.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the heavyweight seven put a whole lot of effort out for months now so.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, I know, I feel like they're they're holding off in real hell you are and for the rest of the way for the rest of the year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like all of these guys, I just, I look at like, yeah, you just had to ming in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You got a couple of shows before you got to go do the G1, like, maybe the hearts of ones are going super hard for.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I, I, you get what you get because there were a couple of guys on here that went real hard.

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[SPEAKER_00]: One thing that struck me Jeremy, I want to see what you think about this before we get to the matches with real consequence and these were previous grant they were previous.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I felt like Yoda Suji came off exactly the same as he did before he won that title back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I did not see anything from Yoda's decision here that made him look like he had greater aura because he was the IWGP champion again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that back and forth with Newman really kind of made him look ordinary and even though he walks out with the belt and he's announced as the champion he doesn't seem to have the same aura he had back in January and February before he dropped the titles.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're saying he just did manage at the moment he lost the title to Newman.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It just didn't feel like there was anything special about him again when he came out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was hoping it would because it did after wrestle came them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It felt different and he felt like a guy, you know, an important guy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And here he felt like a guy in a preview tag.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It just didn't seem like there was anything different about him than there was two weeks ago when he was walking around without the belt.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Didn't seem to add to his aura for this one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Mike, how strong do you make him for the G1?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, he's gonna advance.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's not gonna, I don't think he's, I don't think he's going to win it because the champion almost never does.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think he'll do well and it because they wanna protect the champion.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I, my guess is that he will either be in contention to the last day, probably in post-blocked way, because I don't think they wanna make the champion look like a too much of a, too much of a schmuck.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I don't think he's going to win it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I have my own pick about who I think's going to win it will get to it is the tournament draws close to what I'm asking it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I agree with you that you've diminished.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, they're that part you're firm.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What I'm saying is do and we'll get no greater if you want, but just a curfrey, do you think that they do a very strong like block play campaign with him?

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're the only ones.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, wife.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I think one or seven and two and then he bounced out in a fluke loss.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, in block play.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I would go eight and one, but I would just have him run the table and make it so that whoever does end up beating him like it, it's a big deal.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I agree with you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he's going to have a really good G1.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And if he wrestles really well and wins a lot, then I think it'll be fine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just saying right now, he didn't feel special in this show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, no.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he hasn't felt special since he lost that title in April.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like it's been two months.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, like he wasn't a world leader,

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[SPEAKER_01]: while he was trying to get the title back and he doesn't especially feel like he's gained any momentum or elevation in any way since the moment he lost a title.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, after that, we had the number one contenders match for the Junior Heavyweight title.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And this was a four-way with Francesco Akira, Jose Fujida, Master Watto, and show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So the people that are considered the primary contenders for the title all meeting in the yo games, which was of course throwback to the the doki games where he made everybody else fight to face him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yo's doing the same thing here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yo's a ring side.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the match was fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The referee was bumped by show when Watto had the

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[SPEAKER_00]: the black mirror got involved.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Everybody was hitting everyone else with the black mirror.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Akira managed to hit the crown fall on Watso to women.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So they gave Watso the

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[SPEAKER_00]: not quite the visual pin because the referee was pulled out of the ring during the count, but he would have would have one at quote unquote.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so, of course, it was one of the did the job later.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They just seem to hate the guy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's got to be the one that loses good match though.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This was a good overall.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Of course, every guy got a little bit of shine in there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: mentioned the black mirror.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Normally, that really takes me out of the match, but I actually

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[SPEAKER_00]: It ended up being with Francesco Akira, Yo versus Francesco Akira for his first title defense.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Perfectly acceptable thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It'll be a terrific match, so I'm okay with this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I enjoyed it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I feel like the right guy won.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And there were a lot of viable people in the, in this thing to win, but because we had a baby say champion, it seemed like a heel was going to win.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And thank you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We will show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But you totally could have been my,

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[SPEAKER_01]: With a Kira winning, it feels like it's starting to manifest this whole Akira food, you know, possibility at Wrestle Kingdom.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sense, if you owe one the title is good a case with him, where it was the winning of the title, not the, not the rain.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So now that he won the title, he's the grand slam junior heavyweight lineage, you've one of like four or five, whatever it is, he can lose it at any time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The grand slam being he is one, both the singles tournament, the tag team tournament.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's held the tag team title and the single title.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So the the two tournament and the two titles, which is the, uh, which is the thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I kind of think that yo doesn't need to have a long reign.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And maybe that's just me being like, I don't.

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[SPEAKER_01]: care for you and trying to also see that through and I think that Akira is really interesting as a defending heel champion.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that it would create a dynamic that of people chasing in a against the guy who's both physical and vicious and not cowardly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, but still heel and I think that created a dynamic for people to try and take him down.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I would like to see that

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[SPEAKER_01]: If the idea, well, if Fujita wins the best of the Super Junior and wins the title, and then we just do the reign of Fujita, perhaps it's, you know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Get French, just go Kira on the board and then have food, you know, chasing him all the way to risk looking them and I like that they're all in the orbit, uh, water can challenge through there, uh, show could do whatever you want to do, want to serve a heel like champion, maybe buy for those junior tag titles, a dokey at some point, uh, which is probably a better, like, position for them really, uh, for the house to torture the juniors.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The key is with yo, I want to see if he draws this champion because we are in an era where they tend to put the junior heavyweight title on top of a smaller show rather than have it be toward the top of a bigger show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Dominion, that was standing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They were the semi-final at Dominion.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, we saw several desperate auto title defenses that were the headline or of its own night.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If show

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, yo, rather excuse me, yo, if yo proves he can draw, there's a little bit of evidence that he might be a draw.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's worth investigating.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And if he does indeed sell tickets for his title defenses, then it'll be worth keeping it on him for a little longer because this company needs to sell tickets.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And if they have somebody who does, I think that kind of behavior should be encouraged.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I guess this is what I'm saying.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we'll find out July 6.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This match is going to take place.

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[SPEAKER_00]: July 6.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We won't have to wait very long to see if people show up for this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: 1,200 here on this show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we'll compare and contrast because best of super juniors did a little bit better than this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If yo in the main event exceeds the 1,200 that showed up for G1 qualifier matches, I think we have a good sign.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You make a good argument, definitely have to give this guy a chance to see if he draws and yeah he has the one match on July six right there they've got they've got their match coming up and you know if he retained he's probably going all the way to Auguster September.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right, he's got another title shot too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So again, so he could do the one and done and Oreo could also have a few under a belt and then end up by proxy holding it for a considerable amount of time with, you know, one or two titles.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's about right for, you know, traditional champion.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I really don't see him at a long term champion.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think you can have a run, but like in my mind.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's victory lap, this has given him his flowers kind of run rather than it's more like go to last year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, even if the plan is to do something else and he ends up being a draw, they're just going to take the vote off of them when it's time for whatever plan that they want to do anyways.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, and Fernandez, I agree with you, Fernandez is here with us, glad you're here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Fernandez says, and he loves the black mirror, and this was the match of the night for him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, I'll say this for the black mirror as a weapon.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's relatively safe.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It has a lot of give to it, and it makes a noise, and it's as far as good and actually reflect.

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[SPEAKER_00]: As far, I don't think so, it's black mirror.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The key to it is, though, it has some give, so it's less likely to actually hurt a guy, hit clock and open the head with it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So,

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[SPEAKER_00]: After that, we moved to our G1 climax 36 play in matches.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The first one was Aaron Wolf against Yoshi Hashie and I freaking loved this match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It went almost 20 minutes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yoshi Hashie worked very deliberately at first knowing that they were going to go along, especially for an Aaron Wolf match, but Yoshi Hashie's really smart about doing so.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He doesn't make it boring.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He just works the leg, seems like he's measuring everything.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We want to walk around.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's wolf sell and then moves in for the next thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he kept it moving well without doing a ton and blowing up wolf early.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he fed very well for wolf's power moves.

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[SPEAKER_00]: His selling was really good in this match for

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[SPEAKER_00]: Wolf's strength, and eventually Wolf even hit a frog splash for two, which got a big response from the crowd.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was an anaconda vice spot by Aaron Wolf on Yoshi Hashie that was great for a near-stoppage spot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Really look like he might put Yoshi Hashie out, and that might be the finish.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So when Yoshi Hashie managed to barely get to the ropes and break the hole that they got a big pop.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And there were some good false finishes here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: excellent sell by Wolfe on a knee bar, a really good sell by Wolfe on a knee bar.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Fans were way into this by the end of it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The finish was he went for karma, you know, which is his version of what made Japan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's the same move.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He just would Neo Shiasha doesn't call karma.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Wolfe got out of it and countered it into a judo throw and then got his triangle to finish it off.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it just shows the Jeremy, if you can

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[SPEAKER_00]: where the heavy weights are either lazy, like Narita and Eugenro, or physically incapable of wrestling well, like Sonata, or bad luck, file egg, don't file egg, whatever.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's something here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Get him away from those guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He needs to expand his repertoire, but this is an outstanding match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Yoshi has she got a lot out of him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought this was even better than his

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[SPEAKER_00]: It just shows if we can get him in with some iron and sharpen the iron, iron, sharpening iron and not have him just on a, you know, damp sponge that house torture is, there might be something to air and wolf get him the hell away from that those lazy asses and get him in with a guy who works like oh, she has you get a good match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This was terrific.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought the contract with the white board made me love pro wrestling again, Stephen, who's the match where, uh,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I heard about it before, you know, I saw it and I heard it was good and the reality was I will spoil it on all the finishes of who would want and I kind of really hope it was beyond besides the four way it was pretty obvious like

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[SPEAKER_01]: There were working a whole lot of surprises on this so far and now you're like I continue to believe that there won't be any any particular surprises going forward.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Incept this was a delightful surprise in which Aaron Wolf showed up, showed out Yoshi Hashi.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is part of it's like entry into the hall of fame and making Aaron Wolf looking as this good and Aaron Wolf showed up to play you know I'm like you showed up to work and I don't want to I don't want to say the person's name in case they don't want to be outed to what they were suggested to me, but

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was pretty much suggested that Neutropan has been holding back on Aaron Wolf for quite some time and not allowing him to fully show what he had, what he's been able to do in the ring, which I get that there weren't a whole lot of big opportunities to have a whole lot of eyeballs on him at once, but it's also, you guys aren't doing great at business, like you need draws and

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[SPEAKER_01]: you need to have found a better way to show that Aaron Wolf really is the good and he has that potential in him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's got that bear in him, you know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like some people got that dog in him, he's got that bear in him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And

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[SPEAKER_01]: uh uh Brad could be very excited when he fives out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I did buy that headband Steven and I'm worried.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So anyway, well, you know, but Aaron Wolf should be proud of this one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This was yeah, I think I think is best performance.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I love the wrestling to make it a lot of fun with that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But this this was a new level for him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He leveled what if it's absolute shame to me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't know what anyone else think is that

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[SPEAKER_01]: What TV has gone he broadcast nationwide was that magic against Ren Narita and not this match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, well, I mean, Ren Narita, you know what I'm saying?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like you show them this match and you're like, oh, oh, I get it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like this was this was fighting spirit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This was competitiveness.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This was this was battling for the glory in the middle of the ring and it

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[SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't Healish.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it was two guys flying to win.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was just here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I just Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The next match was the main event of the evening.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was Eudol Ice against Tahici.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And this one went 25 minutes, almost 26.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And unfortunately, they spoiled it immediately.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Tahici came out and white, you know, he's doomed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You just know he's doomed at that point.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Anybody who comes out and white, it's not normally in white, toast.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Lots of strike exchanges, an awful lot of strike exchanges.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And sometimes for me, it was a bit too many times.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they just squared off of the ring and took turns hitting each other.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But these two are good at that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They weren't good at it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's a lot of it, but they were good at it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And utilize portrays the struggle really well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The portrays the struggle of being beaten up and getting up again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then he has major charisma when he's on offense.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So this all worked.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And

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[SPEAKER_00]: Taishi has that sentimentality going with the crowd.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They want him to get in, they want to kind of lift him up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So when he was getting close to winning the fans were into it, but they also didn't really want to see ice get eliminated from it either.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So they were in there for both of them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, nobody was getting booed, everybody was appreciating what they were seeing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I finally managed to overcome him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I guess it was the big knee there and got the win.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I like that they came up with a way for ice to hit the KOB without Oscar.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, kind of hooking.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's actually upside down in the corner and hitting that running knee the kick.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so the final three matches made for a really strong show, Taichi out of the tournament.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He doesn't have to fly to Chicago.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure he's aren't broken about that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, ice is is in and that means we get to see more you know ice matches.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think this is a good way to end the show

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought Tahichi did an especially great job putting over, you know, I isn't really like making it important the the state of winning the match, uh, credit to the we were a stiff guys, but they they had it that, you know, Tahichi didn't handle it well when he found out he wasn't going to be in the G1 and, uh, yeah, yeah, we're out of stage where

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, he's had some incredible matches this year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's had more note worthy matches than a lot of people in the Rockster.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You think about those tag campaigns with the she-e earlier in the year, and you think about what it really meant his time to like carry the ball of some of these upper main cards.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's really shown up and showed out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, the idea for him that he's not going to be going forward with it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just in the bummer, but the passage of time is unforgiving.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, like, it's these guys, they need to build new stars and they're building more of a roster.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's unfortunate that they have not been able to build stars.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And now you have guys at the same level as Taichi, but because they need prioritizing and building them, Taichi's getting squeezed out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and tough because it was completely avoidable at this point, you know, it's like we got guys like Gabe Kid that are supposed to bring in outside interest, but y'all would rather have to each even Gabe Kid.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, I agree with you on that and I don't know what outside interest Gabe kid is supposed to bring because he doesn't, he doesn't draw.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's not like there's a whole ton of fans that are paying to see Gabe kid that are something to go and he's not even going to be in Chicago, which is about the only place he might have perhaps made it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what, I didn't know, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's got like these issues or something like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we're not going to see drill them alone.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He versus Gabe Kid, which was one of the interesting block matches.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we're not going to get it done.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Unfortunately.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I look good for that one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, he won't be, he's not in the US.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's stuck in Japan, just like it's awful for some of these guys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right now, I feel terrible for him that like they're caught in political mind feel when they're just trying to work and show and do their things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: With that being said, I still would wish it would take you to get dead.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, I mean, I tell you she has been doing incredible work for years now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he just seems to be getting better and more dramatic with his matches and things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I really love his work.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I enjoyed a lot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, Sandy's not in the term because I think I think he can still go and be very good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so that takes us to, well, it doesn't quite take us to the next one because there's an event in between.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So there's a little bit of a gap.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And if you notice the gap on the New Japan schedule, we'll talk about that a little bit as because some of the guys are coming over to the United States for for bid and door.

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[SPEAKER_00]: In fact, they're coming basically over to Jeremy Finestone's place.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That arena literally got to work for me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Jeremy, you and I have, there are two events going on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was fantastic comedian, Mexico, which in order to watch live and not have to wait 10 days.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You have to kind of upgrade to the land as level.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's almost like a paper do and then forbidden door, which is a paper view.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you and I are split in the split in the work here, we're dividing them up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it is, we're going to preview for Bidden Door right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Jeremy is going to walk us through this card and I'll walk you through the fantastic committee of one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All this is kind of, you know, in between this is the, the meat and the sandwich of the G1 information.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So then we'll get to previewing the other G1 qualifying matches.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But in the meantime, for Bidden Door, which has a couple of pretty interesting matchups here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Jeremy, what do you got for us?

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm putting on the A-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I will be putting on my AW hat for for the folks here, even though I do the New Japan podcast, I also do an AEW paper view recap show for fight game media and I will be doing one on Sunday night after the press conference and I will

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[SPEAKER_01]: Get home in 15 minutes after the press conference.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's got literally five minutes away from the SAP Center.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can't see it from my window because it's window that way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You get the gist here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a free way

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to explain some AEW stuff as we're going, hopefully to give people a frame of reference of why this match would matter to you if you've never watched AEW.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So this could take 5-10, 15 minutes, but hopefully it'll be entertaining for all of us including Steven as he tried to refrain from saying anything too terrible as I explained some of these.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, because I really hold back when I come to my credit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: capital right now we have one buy and match Steven usually we have two or three but right now we have one we do have an episode of collision still to go i was gonna say we we we could very well get a couple more things added last minute right that's kind of a good thing and i'm not yet that's right i just are noon yeah and now something like through the press conference uh Tony

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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't read it yet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't follow through and I kind of do another stuff, but I did catch the Gabe Kid part, which seemed like the Mark Davis Gabe Kid had to Sarah a couple of the guys are all kind of sufferings in that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we got the buying.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We got the Divine Dominion, which is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Megan Bane and forgot the other girl's name, but Thunderroof and I'll link you out our facing them and CMLL.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's new.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, she can't see the Pantheon.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Great start.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what?

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[SPEAKER_01]: How dare you?

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[SPEAKER_01]: How dare you?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, the divide to being in are the women to tag team champions.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They were the tag team champions.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're all right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll Google them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll find out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the other person's name.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's been in the company for four months.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is the best ever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Go ahead.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you got the name?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I yet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: OK. Well, anyway, if maybe they can answer, wait a minute, the world champions is currently held by the babes of rap.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's hardly Cameron and Willow.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll look injured man, that is way out of date.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh God.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Are you telling you that AI isn't doing this exactly correctly?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is that what you're trying to say?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I have dare, you come out of the eye.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'd rather trust my faulty memory than AI.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's how that's how much I think.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, I've got it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've got it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've got, yes, by the way, AI sucks at pro wrestling, just so you know what?

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, I, but I'm just telling people don't ask like chat, GPT, anything.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've, I've tested it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's garbage.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's really bad.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's, it's, yeah, it's going to ruin everything.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, the divine dominion is Megan Bane and Lena Crosse.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Lena Crosse.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I told everybody it is really a crock.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're very had a very much with us on that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Larry knew what it was.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, they're there this co pilot has it as a willow and First on the card for the AWAW website is the women's Owen heart

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[SPEAKER_01]: up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I know it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now we're talking about Sadie's Monabers is my a world.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you know any of the bad story behind the winnings Owen Hart Cup drama, Stephen?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, help me out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think I would make an idea of myself if I tried to do it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know the answer, I'll let you handle it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is the original.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Women's Owen Hart Cup tournament and we're going to shoot you in the top corner, it had well night and gale and I'll swim through in the bottom corner.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, be in a sure column, Athena in the top right corner and sky blue versus three.

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[SPEAKER_01]: in the other court.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was not the final roster of women that ever really didn't end up happening at all.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're not at all Stephen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Will and I and Gale was eventually replaced by Mercedes Monet at the last minute.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And three was possibly going to be replaced by to Kumi E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E

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[SPEAKER_01]: Prior to her being inserted into this match, her brother was on the side of the road working on a flat tire on his car where he was hit by a car and you have passed away.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he was going that he he he he all the life yes, and the story came out and Tony Colin ended up putting her into the tournament and giving her a similar story kind of run to the finals and kind of giving her that kind of in order of her brother kind of story and it's good it's it's hard

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's what pro wrestling ducts, you know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It kind of gives you that feel good moment to make you invested in whatever things going on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: At the end of the day, I truly believe that it's going to be Mercedes-Bonae facing Tecla at all, out in, all in, all out in Wembley.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so, I think it's all in, yeah, it's all in.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, it's good to speak stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But that's basically the story is that Mercedes came back,

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[SPEAKER_01]: slated to when the tournament before Tony Storm was slated to when the tournament but she got written out for life reasons.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so eventually all of these people were probably all going to leave to tackle it and build her up as an even stronger champion at that were me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But now that we're facing it, I'm almost positive she's losing to Tecla because it would immensely help the story of her winning all these titles, but the one that she really wants is alluding her and losing this time when turned her baby face and make go for a baby face run for that title is kind of the direction I think that they should go with that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, Fernando is loving the whole Maya world thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He said he's all in and that she's Yeah, they only got you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You talk me all in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What's the look the paper views?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, the paper All in still sounds like he's all in on Maya, but actually what the the Tecla the champion just showed up randomly to terrorize Tarot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, God at the start of paper view conversion

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[SPEAKER_00]: One of the best shows I've seen all year, by the way, was a start-up conversion show this past week, and Tecla showed up there to beat the whip and with a belt, the whip, Tarot, counter with a belt, and tried to shave his head.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So she's a, she's a maniac, and apparently will be appearing a little bit more woven into the start-up story lines, too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So Tecla's live in her best life out here, just to conquering worlds.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I am of the belief that Mercedes-Mode and TECO have probably the biggest women's match that you could put in at all in and I'm judging that that's the direction that they go in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And for the men's, oh, it would hurt.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Cup final.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We had Smojo losing to Will Offspray last month at double or nothing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We also had for Strickland defeating Vandino at last month's double or nothing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Both of those moved on and they had to will offer then-safeed Mark Davis who had beaten Jungle Jack Perry as well as for Strickland who faced Bernie King after he beat Claudio Kessi Noey.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We now have for Strickland versus will offer for the Owen Hart Cup final and the opportunity to face

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[SPEAKER_01]: the winner or the champion at all in because, you know, could be M.J.F.

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[SPEAKER_01]: could be somebody else.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's another paperview in Canada called Redemption after another paperview in Canada called Dynasty earlier this year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Where if you read between the lines, there might be a redemption arc for somebody who was in that first paperview running it back for the second one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But we'll give you a minute.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That would be Kenny Omega, challenging again, again,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Vancouver, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Our Montreal, it would be Montreal, and then Kenny Omega would be the champion versus whoever the winner of the Owen Hart Couples, and that would get you will lost favorites as Kenny Omega at all in paperview for the made event.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's going to be in Wembley Stadium in London, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So there is an argument that you can have four of winners as Larry mentioned.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Four of beat will offer a lot of fear in a match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that kind of led to what I believe is this is will turn to win as a match back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's kind of his time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And if you don't hold the trigger on will us right now being that number one container and being that top guy, I think you squandered the opportunity in general.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't think you want to do that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, what are they doing if they don't pull will and the big match at Wembley, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: You must be USB-A guys saying this show is going to be so blind.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, I asked a bunch of guys here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, so I have so many things to say about what I experienced the last night for the Go Home show here in Albuquerque, and I just said, hello, please say them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Please say the things that you have to say.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're interested in hearing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Fernando is saying that Kenny is winning the AEW title.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that sounds

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that was that's the idea behind what we think that redemption is going to be a to be the redemption story for Kenny Omega.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Speaking of that, I believe the heat up for this is Kenny Omega facing off against that Saber Jr. And what if the first of the major crossover matches that we have between AEW and New Japan pro wrestling?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Wow.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we have Kenny Omega versus Zach Saber Jr. And this match has been made and been heated up with the TMDK guy, wrestling against the young buff can Jack Perry and Kenny Omega, wrestling against that Dutito.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Mikey Nichol has been around as well, but she has to often know what doing know what they have.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, he's the current GHC heavyweight champion.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, presumably, if Kenny Omega defeats that temperature in here, he will have defeated a world former world champion and put them in contention to potentially face another world champion with that kind of hot win at a paper view, which is kind of how they do their booking here in AEW.

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[SPEAKER_01]: In addition to that, we have the AEW Continental Championship, which is John Malkley versus

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you know why this match is interesting?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because it's about the best big, a clash of styles that you're going to get.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It is about a big, a clash of styles that you can get.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was inexplicably put together at the last minute unless you know the story, you know the story, Steven.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I don't want you to eat that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The story of the original opponent for John Moxley and this match with Calam Numan.

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[SPEAKER_01]: How new men and John Malkley were going to be in this match and they were going to be feuding over Will Osprey.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was going to be building the divide more and more between Osprey, Newman, Osprey, Malkley, the whole drama and tension of what Osprey's got going on in New Japan with Cal Newman and what Osprey had going on in AEW of John Malkley with the death writers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's what the plan was going to be.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That match was scheduled just to make sure that Newman was going to be healthy for the G1.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What can even guarantee for that, but he's clearly not going to be able to do the match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And full credit to the we work stiff guys, David Josh, because they were the ones who had it on this one and I wanted to make sure they got full credit for that one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's the story behind the match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't expect John Malkley to lose, especially when he's coaching another guy in a win the world championship.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The idea of him losing any matches while trying to coach another guy to be a winner seems kind of countering to it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it should be fun, it should be a little vicious and you know if it'll look like a crazy maniac in the match, but in the end Malkley will probably win.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What's counterintuitive is having your alleged number one baby face blank bag a bunch of heels to help him train because he's such a loser.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He can't do it by himself.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, there are a lot of people who feel the same way at you about the club.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I know, they're right, too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And let's say, Fernando's asking, do you think Zach would ever work in America full time for a little while?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So far, he has shown no interest in that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He just

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[SPEAKER_00]: North American wrestling is his cup of tea at the moment.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I suppose things could change, but he's made a life for himself and Japan, and he seems pretty content to stay there for the most part.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He is, you know, he's doing this, and I think he's interested in wrestling, Kenny Omega.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But he's almost gone out of his way to express how uninterested he is in working a American weekly television episodic,

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[SPEAKER_00]: promotion just doesn't seem like he's that into it at the moment, things change all the time, but he's not particularly motivated by money and I believe him because I think yet if he were going to have his head turned, it would have been by now, but so that seems

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[SPEAKER_00]: uh... genuine that he says he's just not motivated by money just wants to enjoy of the work and he seems to enjoy japan more than the united states as a stands right now so i don't see it happening but he's going to do he'll do shots in america he has no problem doing that he was in lost biggest for less than a week and he's doing this uh... and so he'll come over to north america but i i don't think he's interested in changing his home base at the moment

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[SPEAKER_01]: In my mind, he'd have to be made to feel not wanted in Japan for him to look for, I think we're a good long ways away from that happening.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right, so that's generally the gist that I get to it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you've made to feel like this is in his home anymore, he'll go somewhere else, but because home and you realize it's there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, okay, let's ask.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, let's see what else we got here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We have the quasi-neutropan versus AEW match in the AEW World Tag Team Championship, Adam Cage, or Adam Copeland, and Christian Cage versus the dogs in court corners and David Finley.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So they put this match on and you can kind of spray paint a new Japan vibe to it because he got the dogs

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[SPEAKER_01]: which were a former New Japan team versus the AEW tag team champions, they are an AEW team, but they're so still tied to New Japan in such a way where you're like, you gotta see why they put this match on this show more for like synergy, rather than it being a true AEW versus New Japan match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, if you're going to do the match and try to see if corners and Simlee are viable as a tag team and as a group which, by the way, I think that they are.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think they're fantastic.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think court corners is really showing something that he didn't get a chance to in New Japan and he might be the most successful of the three of the dog, Gabe Kid, Simlee, and him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So just an interesting match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I fully inspect a cage and coat to win and there's no stipulation, nothing to it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just straight tag team match should be fun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I like the idea that they're looking at thinly and Connor's the dog to have what they were 30 years ago and they're going to take him to school.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know you love it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know you love it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Big fan of coke.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Big fan of coke.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The next one is a three-way tag team match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We have here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I can't remember.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're watching a Christian Cage match past WWE so I can't really speak to him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I do like the commentary.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's a lot of refreshing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We got Sky team versus the young buck versus unbound company in which Schinger Tagoggi and Teton will take on Nick and Matt Jatsin and Masker Dorada and Mistiko.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What are the guys there?

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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I like four of the guys there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, I think this match can be great, Steven, and I'm really looking forward to it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There is no story to it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There are no titles on the line.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There are just good guys going out there and probably having a really great party match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And uh, even though the young buck here and there, Steven, they still might be the match of the night.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They stop of, they stop a what this card is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This could be a lot of people favorite match of the night.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, over under three and a half on, uh, Huey and Dewey Jackson,

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's always over, that's always over, that's always over.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's always over.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It won't be there fault.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, you mean, all right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we have the one-world title match that, oh, no, no, we have the global heavyweight championship match, which is, she got it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, no, versus Pock.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This will be showing um, no, first global title defense.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Leave two have history.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mentioned it last week on the show that they had an AEW Dark match where Pac was a champion, uh, the all Atlantic champion at the time and showed it and up losing to him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The time could change, showed us more of a top star than Pac is, Pac is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: a top-ish star, but he's more like a she-e in New Japan whereas I showed him in a little more of like, they're trying to treat him more of like a championship caliber guy, and not the she-e even, but they didn't do that with him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But this is pretty simple, isn't it, Jeremy?

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is a chance for show to have a really good match and defend his title successfully.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and as you mentioned last week, getting him on the show and having him familiar with people is going to lead up to what hopefully going to be a show to human over the John Mothley match, which is a really important match for both of them to really like close the chapter on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're hoping we're hoping that's where it goes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so I'm really looking forward to that match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think show to him and I'll have a real opportunity to ingratiate himself with the US audience, even more so, especially since guys like Yoda Suji don't seem inclined to want to do so.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And there's an opportunity there for him, and I hope to take it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We have the one-world title match on the show, Stephen, and that if Tecla versus Starlight Kid, I am going to give the floor to you because while Tecla is the AEW women's world champion, and she event tremendous in her role in the show, it seems that there is some stardom adjacent drama that has happened that you should probably let us all in.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I mean, the whole thing is the Techwood just showed up at the paperview to a tackle caught up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And because he fired her in air quotes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So when she left to go to, when she left to go to AWS, she was fired by O'Cotta.

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[SPEAKER_00]: because they clashed on a number of things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So they just brought her back as a special kind of a not attraction because she wasn't announced, but it's a surprise for the folks at conversion.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Which by the way, they pack Yogi's, the Yogi building for that show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, I mean, this is gonna be another one, where they just wanted to give Tecla a good opponent that she can be.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, the starlight is a fantastic wrestler, but right now,

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[SPEAKER_00]: She's not the top person in stardom.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She's one of the top workers as far as talent goes, but they're pushing other people at the moment.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so this will just be a good match to technical can win.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you for that analysis, Steven.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was exactly what I was hoping for from you on that explanation, so that all of our audience does exactly the context of what the sternum, but that's S.O.K.

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[SPEAKER_00]: is real strong.

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[SPEAKER_00]: S.O.K.

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[SPEAKER_00]: is really, really good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, I'm really looking forward to seeing sternum kid on the show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's a good match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the main event, Steven, not a world title match, which is baffling and misdefying to me, but we have a 12 man steel cage match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, it is a rematch of a straight six man tag match or 12 man tag match that we had that if anyone got to qualify they'd be out of this cage match so now we have the cage match, which is and draw day date something heaven night has a chica alcata mjf and Kyle Fletcher versus Kyle Riley Roddrick strong or Cassidy Darby Allen Kenos get to Kesha and

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[SPEAKER_00]: What a mess.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, at the point is that's not New Japan adjacent really at all.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, there are a couple of people in New Japan that are that wrestle for New Japan that are in that match the risk of it just really doesn't matter.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You could.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, to catch watch the air.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Watch the AEW shows.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Watch the dynamite show to figure out that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, you got to caught other some New Japan flavor in there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, some Japanese guys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think what they're trying to get to is that brisco will end up winning and getting a title match on the following show to run up what they did with Darby Allen where he got a title match on the thing and try and see pump up, pump a rating to see if they can get people to believe that brisco would win the same way that Darby did, but I don't think that's happening.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, and we asked USDA guy, what he meant by he has things to say, and let's hear what he has to say.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He says, I think it's safe to say the relationship between New Japan and AEW is tedious at this point.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It might have meant tenuous there too, but the tedious are tenuous.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Certainly tedious for me, something changed after the New Japan sale.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There were no New Japan staff other than Rocky in Albuquerque.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think about that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: not for years, but yeah, yeah, I'm think that there's probably going to be some changes after the TBSI he take over right there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And right now, I've been saying it like the forbidden door thing, even fantastic, a mania G1 and Chicago, which I'm glad they're doing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Jeremy and I are going to be in attendance in Chicago.

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[SPEAKER_00]: worried about Japan right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The company is not strong and ticket sales in Japan and they need to get their house in order before they start branching out around the world.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All this was great in 2019 and 2019 they were filling buildings.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So when they went to the G1 in the United States, they started running shows over here at NJPW Strong, didn't know the pandemic was coming.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But at the time, they were red hot and Japan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Everything was going beautifully.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was, it wasn't a bad time to expand.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That time is no longer now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They need to focus at home.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So some of the say, EW stuff, and there is no forbidden door anyway, is there, really?

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[SPEAKER_00]: everybody works for somebody else even WWE works with other people now and it's a strange world and you can talk to TNA fans about whether they're happy with it, but the point being there is no forbidden to anymore.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So this whole thing is a little antiquated.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Everybody works with everybody all the time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I would be fine if New Japan just kind of call everybody home and said, why don't we just get the buildings full here?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then we'll worry about what's going on elsewhere.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't think the concept is viable until it has positioned as one promotion versus the other.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it, it just feels like a thing now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't, it doesn't have the feeling of a having people on the show, no longer feel special when people, like you said, people come and go all the time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It, it, a matter of having the big star in the big match that really get people to tension.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I'm not necessarily sure that they have a lot of big stars.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like they have a lot of stars, but who's their top guy in a UW right now?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like M.J.F.

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[SPEAKER_01]: it's having a career year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Who's the top guy in New Japan?

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a fair question I asked both from right exactly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we're all in every single promotion that is floundering right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You don't know who the top guy is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But you don't have the sense of like this bit the guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we're building everything around him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And look at the hottest company in the world right now, WWE is getting a little creaky like their attendance is dropped year over a year and a lot of these towns because the creative has been garbage for the last year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the shows become boring and just a big billboard and things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so WWE has made a mistake taking the dog office in punk.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They've been making so many mistakes that I don't even know if that makes the top 20, but a lot of it is just the experience of going to a WWE show is different now all the commercials everybody's just annoyed and there's no wrestling anymore, so you know and it's there's a lot going wrong and.

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[SPEAKER_00]: who's really the top guy in WWE and they're dropping down a little bit, you know, who knows who their top star is, CML and they're on fire.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So they're just so, so many things that are right in our face that show you what needs to be done is, you know, pick a guy, go with him, or her, and you know, like start them on fire.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, who's on top in start them, you know, like that type of thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's it's right there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then the companies that are just fumbling around in the dark,

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[SPEAKER_00]: We don't know who the top guys are.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, we're here on 99s as there would be one, a Cody facing MJF title versus title.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That would be if we're bitten or correct.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that would be, that would be a mind blur.

01:00:04.407 --> 01:00:06.248
[SPEAKER_00]: But I'm not holding my breath on that.

01:00:07.189 --> 01:00:10.310
[SPEAKER_00]: So you mentioned that this would be more interesting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If it were AEW versus

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[SPEAKER_00]: New Japan for forbidden door instead of just a collection of some matches When evolving some of the guys that's kind of what we got in arena Mexico for fantastic Mania and I'm gonna go over that real quick and then we're gonna look ahead to upcoming events So this is June 19th in front of 16,000 people at arena Mexico and another packed house and of course right now Of course they're running

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[SPEAKER_00]: As always they run arena Mexico several times a week and all of them are packed out right now because the world cup is in town Mexico City is a host city for the world cup and what do you do when you are in Mexico City as a tourist you can you know they they have done a brilliant job reporting themselves as a must do and must see event even the Sunday show which doesn't always pack the house was packed this past week with with fans so

01:01:06.053 --> 01:01:21.405
[SPEAKER_00]: They're doing great, and the fantastic Amania crew was over there, so the very first match, I'll go over this fairly quickly, because again, it's not a lot of storyline, but it was futuro, max star, and valiente, junior, against Okamura, Shomekato, and Yutani.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Shomekato is getting good at luchilebry, Jeremy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He is picking it up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He is

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[SPEAKER_00]: expressive.

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[SPEAKER_00]: His body language and his face is more expressive, but he's in bigger buildings now in front of more people and he knows he needs to project arena Coliseaux the Saturday night show that has about five thousand people every Saturday Arena Pueblo has about four thousand these are all more than what New Japan normally draws so he's in bigger buildings front of more people he's getting more expressive and I think he's doing great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Utahni, this guy, not part of the New Japan system, Japanese wrestler in Mexico, but he's not part of the New Japan system.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They need to bring him in.

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[SPEAKER_00]: At some point, whether it is a guest or whatever, this guy's fabulous.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think he could really do well in New Japan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And even Oka Moro was doing dives in this one, by the way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I really thought, I hope we really help you see Utahri go in.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you throw it back, star and valianty junior won the match, but it was a real good opener.

01:02:17.942 --> 01:02:26.709
[SPEAKER_00]: After that, we had Rina from from a startup come in and challenge India's sue for the CMLL Japan women's title match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They have a title for these CMLL has a title for everything, but the CMLL and Japan title and India sued defeated Rina in a good match in about 11 minutes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They gave Rina a lot though.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They gave Rina a lot and most of the New Japan people I'm talking about have stayed on tour all week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So they went to Arena Coliseo on Saturday, back to Arena Mexico on Sunday to Pueblo on Monday and just getting a week's worth of work in.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Then we had the Sky Team, which is this match was terrific, Jeremy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Mascara Dorada, Neon, and Templari.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All people we've seen at Fantastic

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[SPEAKER_00]: And this was an air show, but I think it was my favorite match in the night.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Everyone got a few spots and Neon has this thing where he runs down the ramp.

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[SPEAKER_00]: leaps up to the top rope, but not to the corner, not in the corner.

01:03:20.334 --> 01:03:28.838
[SPEAKER_00]: So he's on the ropes, but close to the corner, then he hops to the other rope on the other side of the turn buckle, then hits a moon salt to the floor.

01:03:28.939 --> 01:03:30.579
[SPEAKER_00]: It's incredible.

01:03:31.040 --> 01:03:37.203
[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, Dorada ended up hitting the shooting star press on Robbie X for the win.

01:03:37.943 --> 01:03:38.623
[SPEAKER_00]: Terrific match.

01:03:38.643 --> 01:03:39.324
[SPEAKER_00]: A lot of fun.

01:03:39.364 --> 01:03:41.665
[SPEAKER_00]: Worth going out of your way to see if you can.

01:03:43.263 --> 01:03:46.185
[SPEAKER_00]: CMLL, World Tag Team title match, the House of Torture.

01:03:46.265 --> 01:03:50.908
[SPEAKER_00]: Dictogo and Sonata, wrestled the Chavez brothers as onheld the Oro and the Abla Rojas.

01:03:50.948 --> 01:03:52.849
[SPEAKER_00]: Dictogo and Sonata over in Mexico.

01:03:53.389 --> 01:03:55.891
[SPEAKER_00]: And Sonata can't do this.

01:03:56.531 --> 01:03:59.073
[SPEAKER_00]: Luchéna's thing, and he is...

01:04:00.614 --> 01:04:01.875
[SPEAKER_00]: physically shot anyway.

01:04:02.235 --> 01:04:04.397
[SPEAKER_00]: We just saw it in every match he had in Mexico.

01:04:04.497 --> 01:04:11.363
[SPEAKER_00]: He really just kind of rakes eyes and kicks and does a couple of things, but he really can't.

01:04:11.723 --> 01:04:14.185
[SPEAKER_00]: He really can't tumble more than once or twice when I'm at.

01:04:15.066 --> 01:04:20.951
[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, the terraces and the the dives and all that, it's he just can't do it anymore.

01:04:21.532 --> 01:04:23.393
[SPEAKER_00]: Dick Togo carried this one as best he could.

01:04:23.413 --> 01:04:25.295
[SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't that good in their

01:04:27.757 --> 01:04:36.261
[SPEAKER_00]: Then we had Elfantazmo against Barbara Covernario and this match was one of the best of the night.

01:04:36.401 --> 01:04:37.261
[SPEAKER_00]: It was excellent.

01:04:37.281 --> 01:04:43.384
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'll tell you what, Jeremy, Elfantazmo has outstanding heel presence in Mexico.

01:04:43.704 --> 01:04:45.045
[SPEAKER_00]: It just works.

01:04:45.885 --> 01:04:57.450
[SPEAKER_00]: And he worked heel in this one, a strong match for the big moves, including Barbero Cabernario, jumping off the top rope and giving Phantasmo a splash on the floor.

01:04:57.490 --> 01:05:07.714
[SPEAKER_00]: That's with Phantasmo laying on his back on the floor and Barbero doing a, basically, the superfly leap to the floor, not to the ring from the top rope.

01:05:08.014 --> 01:05:09.715
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what this guy's knees are made of.

01:05:09.775 --> 01:05:12.056
[SPEAKER_00]: I hope they're, they're eventually going to be made of titanium.

01:05:12.116 --> 01:05:13.257
[SPEAKER_00]: This is going to have to have a replace.

01:05:14.417 --> 01:05:28.429
[SPEAKER_00]: ELP used low blow to help him when there is a future for L Fantasmo as a lucha libre heel if he wants there to be he was that good as the heel and remember a couple of years ago the how to sing in Mexico was Voldor Jr and Rocky Romero.

01:05:29.089 --> 01:05:37.236
[SPEAKER_00]: So there's a history of New Japan guys working well in this system and especially guys with personality like that, but this was really really good

01:05:38.239 --> 01:05:45.363
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, I should mention there was a forbidden door preview with ELP versus Lil Hawksbury last night on AEW Dynamite that was actually pretty good too.

01:05:45.903 --> 01:05:46.063
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:05:46.244 --> 01:05:46.704
[SPEAKER_00]: Probably was.

01:05:46.944 --> 01:05:47.304
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:05:47.985 --> 01:05:50.326
[SPEAKER_00]: And then we had Hatchesero and Kenosuke to Keshta.

01:05:50.766 --> 01:05:53.368
[SPEAKER_00]: They faced Grand Guerrero and Ultimo Guerrero.

01:05:54.088 --> 01:05:55.669
[SPEAKER_00]: This match didn't quite work.

01:05:55.889 --> 01:06:00.131
[SPEAKER_00]: Hatchesero and to Keshta were doing a little too much of the, we don't get a long thing.

01:06:00.532 --> 01:06:02.933
[SPEAKER_00]: Because I guess there's that Don Calus storyline stuff.

01:06:03.653 --> 01:06:04.434
[SPEAKER_00]: But it hurt the match.

01:06:04.994 --> 01:06:15.699
[SPEAKER_00]: Unfortunately, it meant the match didn't really gel together, but it's not often that ultimate Guerrero and Takeshira are in one of the worst matches of the night, but unfortunately they were here this one didn't quite pan out.

01:06:16.479 --> 01:06:18.520
[SPEAKER_00]: And the heels ended up winning that one.

01:06:18.540 --> 01:06:22.542
[SPEAKER_00]: Heads of Sarah went to Takeshira one despite themselves, but it won one very good.

01:06:23.363 --> 01:06:23.823
[SPEAKER_00]: Main event.

01:06:25.716 --> 01:06:29.317
[SPEAKER_00]: Blue Panther, who's in his 60s, but can still work like crazy.

01:06:30.897 --> 01:06:33.638
[SPEAKER_00]: Maria, Rusty L, Maria, Maria is here.

01:06:33.678 --> 01:06:35.018
[SPEAKER_00]: She says Rocky Romero sucks.

01:06:35.058 --> 01:06:39.940
[SPEAKER_00]: Sorry, well, not a fan of Rocky, but the fans in Mexico City would agree with you.

01:06:39.960 --> 01:06:40.660
[SPEAKER_00]: They hated Rocky.

01:06:41.360 --> 01:06:50.842
[SPEAKER_00]: Blue Panther, in his 60s, but can still wrestle, teamed up with Mystico and Tiger Mask in the main event against a Verno, Voldor Jr. and Black Tiger.

01:06:50.862 --> 01:06:53.283
[SPEAKER_00]: Of course, formerly known as Magnus, now he's Black Tiger.

01:06:54.647 --> 01:07:00.451
[SPEAKER_00]: Jeremy, they made Tiger Mask look like the legend of legends in this.

01:07:01.912 --> 01:07:07.296
[SPEAKER_00]: They had a big video package for him showing him in Mexico City throughout the years.

01:07:07.316 --> 01:07:11.218
[SPEAKER_00]: And of course, he's been working there as we've been mentioning in our biography since the early 2000s.

01:07:11.238 --> 01:07:11.299
[SPEAKER_00]: And

01:07:13.620 --> 01:07:15.141
[SPEAKER_00]: It was a great video package, very nice.

01:07:15.161 --> 01:07:23.585
[SPEAKER_00]: They presented him with a souvenir belt, a CMLL emblem on it that were gifts for him in the ring.

01:07:24.426 --> 01:07:39.314
[SPEAKER_00]: Once the match started, all the Rudo's, the heels, Volodore, Black Tiger, and the barrel all came out in a version of a Tiger Mask mask mask, and then took that off there, but they made their first appearance on the ramp with the Tiger

01:07:42.818 --> 01:07:44.820
[SPEAKER_00]: E. Tiger even hit it to Harris in this one.

01:07:44.840 --> 01:07:46.221
[SPEAKER_00]: So he was feeling pretty spry.

01:07:46.941 --> 01:07:49.823
[SPEAKER_00]: Mystico hit all of his signature spots did most of the selling.

01:07:50.544 --> 01:07:55.948
[SPEAKER_00]: Tiger mask hit a toe face who has seen a Jeremy and the director hit the wrong button and the camera missed it.

01:07:56.388 --> 01:07:57.649
[SPEAKER_01]: It cut to the wrong camera.

01:07:57.669 --> 01:07:58.890
[SPEAKER_01]: They were about to show it.

01:07:58.910 --> 01:08:00.451
[SPEAKER_00]: So he's just about to die.

01:08:06.695 --> 01:08:08.557
[SPEAKER_00]: They cut to a cam pointing at the ground.

01:08:08.982 --> 01:08:11.132
[SPEAKER_00]: That was like, oh, come on, I didn't even get to see it.

01:08:11.674 --> 01:08:13.442
[SPEAKER_00]: Just a rare mistake.

01:08:15.002 --> 01:08:39.817
[SPEAKER_00]: the tiger mask won the match he had a tiger driver on the black tiger got the three just as Mystico is putting lemmistica on a verino afterwards the entire cast of the show all the wrestlers came out to congratulate tiger mask on his career in the middle of the ring he would I mentioned the title belt he was presented with posed in the ring with the entire crew and they hit the big streamers the poured down from the rafters

01:08:40.597 --> 01:08:44.059
[SPEAKER_00]: And this was presented as a major, major event.

01:08:44.559 --> 01:08:53.223
[SPEAKER_00]: And even the guys in house of torture should Tiger Mass hand afterwards as he kind of went around and hugged and shook hands with everybody else on the card.

01:08:54.520 --> 01:08:56.621
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not sure, New Japan can touch this send off.

01:08:56.661 --> 01:08:58.041
[SPEAKER_00]: Jeremy, I don't know what they're going to do.

01:08:58.161 --> 01:09:01.082
[SPEAKER_00]: I think they've, it's going to be really hard to beat.

01:09:01.662 --> 01:09:09.465
[SPEAKER_00]: And at the end of it, it just shows you that we consider him as a dad who usually loses in one of the first couple of matches on the show.

01:09:09.965 --> 01:09:13.206
[SPEAKER_00]: And we lose track of what Yamazaki has done with his career.

01:09:13.426 --> 01:09:22.809
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's why I'm glad we're kind of going over it in the last bit of the show over the last few weeks because in Mexico, he was presented as a very big deal.

01:09:24.115 --> 01:09:34.679
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I have to imagine Nutripe and it's going to have somewhere bigger than this, but smaller than Tonahashi, kind of, turned off the corrican, you know what I mean?

01:09:34.739 --> 01:09:39.701
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, it's tough because corrican is such a small venue and then this was six to the other.

01:09:39.721 --> 01:09:41.781
[SPEAKER_01]: You can make them feel special, corrican.

01:09:42.142 --> 01:09:45.223
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, you know, like, Tonahashi, glad to have that in corrican.

01:09:45.383 --> 01:09:45.943
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, special.

01:09:46.508 --> 01:09:49.249
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, like, you can't know that kind of thing here, right?

01:09:49.309 --> 01:10:11.839
[SPEAKER_01]: I hope they do because I hope whatever they have planned to travel and see this was like, oh, maybe I have to wrap our name a little bit here, because it wasn't like, I saw a little bit of it and I heard about it and I was like, yeah, yeah, I do like, I do like a little bit of a retirement ceremony in a reason for some of these aging records lately.

01:10:11.859 --> 01:10:12.920
[SPEAKER_01]: They're really nice.

01:10:13.556 --> 01:10:15.578
[SPEAKER_00]: And it looked like it really meant a lot to Tiger Mask, too.

01:10:15.658 --> 01:10:17.539
[SPEAKER_00]: You can tell he was really having a good time.

01:10:17.739 --> 01:10:19.621
[SPEAKER_00]: And he, it meant a lot to him.

01:10:19.641 --> 01:10:20.221
[SPEAKER_00]: It just meant a lot.

01:10:20.241 --> 01:10:22.803
[SPEAKER_00]: He looked, he looked moved, you know, I know he has a mask on things.

01:10:22.823 --> 01:10:23.544
[SPEAKER_00]: You can see his eyes.

01:10:23.624 --> 01:10:25.825
[SPEAKER_00]: He was, this meant a lot to Tiger Mask.

01:10:25.905 --> 01:10:26.986
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's, that's pretty cool.

01:10:27.046 --> 01:10:28.467
[SPEAKER_00]: I think he deserves those kind of kudos.

01:10:30.629 --> 01:10:31.149
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, yeah.

01:10:31.350 --> 01:10:31.710
[SPEAKER_01]: So,

01:10:33.567 --> 01:10:34.168
[SPEAKER_01]: What else we got?

01:10:34.188 --> 01:10:37.430
[SPEAKER_01]: Do you want to talk to G1 block that are out?

01:10:38.390 --> 01:10:40.371
[SPEAKER_00]: No, we did that last week.

01:10:40.491 --> 01:10:42.453
[SPEAKER_00]: There are a couple of things I want to mention the week ahead.

01:10:42.493 --> 01:10:45.154
[SPEAKER_00]: There's the forbidden door paper view on Sunday.

01:10:45.394 --> 01:10:47.315
[SPEAKER_00]: No shows, though, until Thursday.

01:10:47.575 --> 01:10:49.897
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's not going to be on NJPW work.

01:10:50.603 --> 01:10:55.887
[SPEAKER_00]: So that is going to be in Saitama in the Tokyo General Metropolitan Area.

01:10:56.507 --> 01:10:58.309
[SPEAKER_00]: And then that's July 2nd.

01:10:58.649 --> 01:10:59.990
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's all previews.

01:11:00.150 --> 01:11:00.871
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a house show.

01:11:01.211 --> 01:11:08.136
[SPEAKER_00]: Nothing will be on NJPW World until Monday, July 6th, which is going to be headline by show versus Francesco Akira.

01:11:09.377 --> 01:11:13.460
[SPEAKER_00]: On the 6th and 7th, that's when we're going to finish everything up, going into the G1 tournament.

01:11:13.480 --> 01:11:15.682
[SPEAKER_00]: So by then, we'll have the other qualifying matches.

01:11:16.932 --> 01:11:20.195
[SPEAKER_00]: We'll talk about all that next week as that event approach.

01:11:20.235 --> 01:11:22.417
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's, that's what we'll have a recap in a preview show.

01:11:23.018 --> 01:11:23.398
[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.

01:11:23.438 --> 01:11:23.778
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:11:23.798 --> 01:11:25.580
[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to take a look at forbidden door next week.

01:11:25.680 --> 01:11:30.184
[SPEAKER_00]: And then we will look ahead to those final play in matches.

01:11:30.725 --> 01:11:31.926
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's what we have.

01:11:31.986 --> 01:11:34.168
[SPEAKER_00]: I have a little bit on Tiger Mask if you want to hear it though.

01:11:35.180 --> 01:11:42.907
[SPEAKER_01]: Do I want to hear your fully prepared 15 minutes on tag-a-math or should we skip it with 20 minutes left to go on the show?

01:11:43.227 --> 01:11:46.370
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, Stephen, that seems like a real tough, tough invitation for me.

01:11:46.670 --> 01:11:50.574
[SPEAKER_01]: Why don't we fill out the rest of the show with the diligent hard work that you prepared?

01:11:50.594 --> 01:11:51.895
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, well, I appreciate that.

01:11:52.095 --> 01:11:57.120
[SPEAKER_00]: And I just want to say also, don't forget, I mean, power bombshells is doing a preview show for forbidden door, also, right?

01:11:57.896 --> 01:11:58.456
[SPEAKER_00]: I believe so.

01:11:58.716 --> 01:12:00.096
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so make sure you check that out.

01:12:00.356 --> 01:12:05.057
[SPEAKER_00]: Make sure you check out Jeremy show after forbidden or we've got a WWE.

01:12:05.137 --> 01:12:08.138
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm doing a WWE recap show on Saturday with Kila.

01:12:09.278 --> 01:12:09.758
[SPEAKER_00]: My goodness.

01:12:10.178 --> 01:12:10.538
[SPEAKER_01]: I haven't.

01:12:10.618 --> 01:12:12.499
[SPEAKER_01]: I haven't done a WWE show for a while.

01:12:12.559 --> 01:12:24.221
[SPEAKER_01]: Scott salty Scott had to step away because he had an opportunity that his personal life then had made him have to make a decision about the future of the podcast and so Kila asked me to step in and

01:12:24.821 --> 01:12:42.427
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I wasn't sure if I was going to have any obligations for AEW Newspan on Saturday, but my world was kind of decided for me, Stephen, when I agreed to go see Lily with my friend John Maraca on Friday and I'm pretty much in Cognito and capacity in all day Sunday.

01:12:42.447 --> 01:12:52.990
[SPEAKER_01]: So Saturday kind of belongs to my wife and whatever she wants to do, so I will be staying at home rather than going out and doing anything and I figured that's a great opportunity for me to do this.

01:12:53.830 --> 01:13:03.815
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, when we can be next week, I will be all excited because Ginger and I are attending the July 3rd World Cup match in Dallas.

01:13:04.235 --> 01:13:13.480
[SPEAKER_00]: So we're going to find out later tonight, one of the participants, and then in the next couple of days we'll find out who will be the other team in there.

01:13:13.500 --> 01:13:17.702
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, it's the second place team in one block versus the second place team in another block.

01:13:17.982 --> 01:13:19.643
[SPEAKER_00]: So the games have to have to play themselves off.

01:13:23.451 --> 01:13:35.574
[SPEAKER_00]: the winner of Australia Paraguay and I'm hoping for either Belgium or Egypt, although Australia versus New Zealand is a possibility and that would be kind of cool.

01:13:36.274 --> 01:13:47.416
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm kind of hoping for Egypt because I'm a Liverpool supporter and I would get to see Muhammad Salah, it was just left Liverpool but he's been our best player for so long and then seeing Belgium would be great.

01:13:51.357 --> 01:13:58.764
[SPEAKER_00]: But that's kind of the, so probably the winner tonight of Australia, Paraguay is probably going to be the team that we, well, that'll be the team we see.

01:13:58.784 --> 01:14:00.726
[SPEAKER_00]: If there's a winner in that game, we'll, we'll get that.

01:14:00.866 --> 01:14:07.012
[SPEAKER_00]: But the, the other block is much more complicated those games have to play out in the next couple days and see.

01:14:07.373 --> 01:14:09.054
[SPEAKER_00]: But I'm excited about going to World Cup match.

01:14:09.074 --> 01:14:11.277
[SPEAKER_00]: That's I'm not going to something off my bucket list.

01:14:13.258 --> 01:14:13.898
[SPEAKER_01]: Very cool man.

01:14:13.959 --> 01:14:23.945
[SPEAKER_01]: I told you about my I got a coworker and he's been getting You think about it on the ticket because the amount of money that you're getting offered for like I don't blame all that you are saying and yeah, Levi's right?

01:14:23.965 --> 01:14:35.532
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't believe by stadium But it is yeah, yeah, I believe I stadium, but they won't advertise to the believe I stadium during the world cup because Yeah, we didn't pay the sponsorship which is amusing to me to no end, but

01:14:36.613 --> 01:14:38.714
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll be in Dallas Stadium instead of AT&T.

01:14:39.035 --> 01:14:40.356
[SPEAKER_01]: That should be fun.

01:14:40.876 --> 01:14:44.538
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to go ahead and feed my dog while you get started.

01:14:44.578 --> 01:14:45.959
[SPEAKER_01]: And I will join you shortly.

01:14:45.999 --> 01:14:46.300
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

01:14:46.400 --> 01:14:46.720
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

01:14:47.400 --> 01:14:51.663
[SPEAKER_00]: So Tiger Mask, when we last left him, here on this little biography, he was 2007.

01:14:51.763 --> 01:14:55.626
[SPEAKER_00]: And he was a three-time former IWGP junior heavyweight champion.

01:14:56.006 --> 01:15:01.530
[SPEAKER_00]: And he held the NWA junior heavyweight type of being defended on New Japan shows as well.

01:15:01.590 --> 01:15:04.732
[SPEAKER_00]: So they had two junior heavyweight champions, single champions going at that point.

01:15:05.092 --> 01:15:06.673
[SPEAKER_00]: He defended that junior heavyweight title.

01:15:07.513 --> 01:15:08.973
[SPEAKER_00]: He teamed with Wattaro in a way.

01:15:09.253 --> 01:15:17.716
[SPEAKER_00]: That was his most frequent tag team partner, Coach of kind of moto, El Samurai, sometimes town of Hashi, sometimes Hiroshi town of Hashi, and Tiger Mass were on the same side.

01:15:18.796 --> 01:15:21.837
[SPEAKER_00]: He dropped that NWA title after almost a year.

01:15:21.897 --> 01:15:26.859
[SPEAKER_00]: Helled for almost a year, he lost it to, if you remember this name from a while ago, Mike Quackenbush.

01:15:27.439 --> 01:15:33.564
[SPEAKER_00]: in the thriving Metropolis of Portage, Indiana about an hour away from where I grew up.

01:15:33.664 --> 01:15:39.028
[SPEAKER_00]: It was not a large town, but that was where the show was where he dropped it to my quiet and bush.

01:15:39.128 --> 01:15:47.935
[SPEAKER_00]: During that run, though, in the United States, he worked for TNA, IWA, Mid-South, and he defeated AJ Styles in a match out there.

01:15:47.975 --> 01:15:50.057
[SPEAKER_00]: So he was working for those small

01:15:53.059 --> 01:16:10.589
[SPEAKER_00]: uh... he went back to work for me chinoca pro when he was with new japan he was still go back and do shows uh... as a top star for me chinoca pro wrestling where he got his his start he won their pro fookman world league tournament he defeated adilantees in the final so again we're talking about uh... guys that don't lose a whole lot

01:16:11.349 --> 01:16:15.951
[SPEAKER_00]: losing the tiger mask and that's that's where he was in the junior heavyweight ranks at that time.

01:16:16.552 --> 01:16:22.935
[SPEAKER_00]: He also worked a young guy named Tetsuya Naito, a junior heavyweight in 2008, beat him a lot.

01:16:23.015 --> 01:16:34.200
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, this was during Naito's early days there, so we weren't quite to the star-dust superstar of Tetsuya Naito yet, but he was working Tiger Mask a lot in Tiger Mask was put into the paces.

01:16:35.657 --> 01:16:39.058
[SPEAKER_00]: Went to the best of the Super Junior's in 2008 and he won his block.

01:16:39.118 --> 01:16:46.182
[SPEAKER_00]: He won block B, but I think they felt like they had already accomplished everything they were going to accomplish with Tiger Mask in the BOSJ.

01:16:46.242 --> 01:16:48.042
[SPEAKER_00]: He at that point could put other people over.

01:16:48.502 --> 01:16:53.805
[SPEAKER_00]: He lost in the semi-finals too, which are, in a way, who was the IWGP Junior Champion.

01:16:54.886 --> 01:17:04.195
[SPEAKER_00]: So interesting match right after that tournament though he wrestled at a special Satur Satur Sajama fundamentalism fundamentalist event.

01:17:04.215 --> 01:17:06.357
[SPEAKER_00]: That's what's called Sajama fundamentalist event.

01:17:06.457 --> 01:17:09.981
[SPEAKER_00]: Special event promoted by the original tiger mask.

01:17:10.081 --> 01:17:10.581
[SPEAKER_00]: Sajama.

01:17:11.362 --> 01:17:13.824
[SPEAKER_00]: And he teamed with Menoru Suzuki.

01:17:13.864 --> 01:17:28.756
[SPEAKER_00]: So Tiger Mask and Menoru Suzuki defeated Siamma, the original Tiger Mask, and Sammy Lee Jr. Now, Sammy Lee was the name that Siamma used when he was on excursion.

01:17:28.816 --> 01:17:34.841
[SPEAKER_00]: He was Sammy Lee, because Bruce Lee and they're all Asian, so it's all the same thing anyway, right?

01:17:35.301 --> 01:17:37.003
[SPEAKER_00]: It's the rest of me back then.

01:17:37.023 --> 01:17:38.904
[SPEAKER_00]: So when he would go, well, that's how they acted back.

01:17:42.147 --> 01:17:45.548
[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, when he was in the UK, they just called him Sammy Lee, Junior, right?

01:17:46.228 --> 01:17:49.910
[SPEAKER_00]: And Sammy Lee, Sammy Lee, Junior was Coda Abushi.

01:17:51.011 --> 01:17:56.553
[SPEAKER_00]: So he wrote Coda Abushi and the original Tiger Mass versus Menoros, Suzuki and the current Tiger Mass.

01:17:57.013 --> 01:17:59.795
[SPEAKER_00]: That's a strange match, but that was on top of that event.

01:18:00.035 --> 01:18:04.977
[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, what's our own way was the Junior Heavyweight Champion as I mentioned?

01:18:10.835 --> 01:18:11.916
[SPEAKER_00]: So they had another tournament.

01:18:12.617 --> 01:18:14.359
[SPEAKER_00]: Tiger Mask won that tournament.

01:18:14.379 --> 01:18:23.470
[SPEAKER_00]: He defeated Prince David in the finals, and he became the IWGP Junior Heavyweight Champion of fourth time, and held in September until he lost it to low key.

01:18:23.490 --> 01:18:24.732
[SPEAKER_00]: Remember him, for that matter.

01:18:25.172 --> 01:18:27.155
[SPEAKER_00]: He ended up regaining the title of Wrestle Kingdom 3.

01:18:28.574 --> 01:18:33.316
[SPEAKER_00]: There were 27,000 or so there for it, and that was in January 4th of 2009.

01:18:34.556 --> 01:18:41.018
[SPEAKER_00]: The main event of that show was Hiroshi Tanahashi, beating Kiji Muto for the IWGP title.

01:18:42.379 --> 01:18:46.100
[SPEAKER_00]: Another interesting match was Shinsuke Nakamura and Hiroki Goto.

01:18:46.940 --> 01:18:50.562
[SPEAKER_00]: beating Mitsuhara Masawa and SIGURA in the semi-final.

01:18:50.842 --> 01:18:53.503
[SPEAKER_00]: So thinking about that's a big no-overs in New Japan match.

01:18:54.083 --> 01:18:58.625
[SPEAKER_00]: So goto Nakamura, Masawa, SIGURA all in the same match there.

01:18:58.665 --> 01:19:00.906
[SPEAKER_00]: We're show Kevin Nash was at that one.

01:19:01.166 --> 01:19:06.208
[SPEAKER_00]: That was a strange line of Kurt Angle was in that one team 3D.

01:19:07.008 --> 01:19:10.350
[SPEAKER_00]: That would be the Dudley boys after they couldn't be the Dudley boys anymore.

01:19:10.630 --> 01:19:11.410
[SPEAKER_00]: They defeated Togi

01:19:14.091 --> 01:19:19.794
[SPEAKER_00]: in the in the on that show so that was a little bit of uh the the Makabe group the great bash heel.

01:19:21.234 --> 01:19:23.335
[SPEAKER_00]: The young lion matched by the way with that show Jeremy.

01:19:23.756 --> 01:19:35.521
[SPEAKER_00]: Mawano collection Ate Minoru and Taichi defeated Mitsushida Hirasawa who became Captain New Japan later Yoshihashi and Kazuchko Kada.

01:19:36.411 --> 01:19:43.936
[SPEAKER_00]: So Molano Collection AT, our color commentator, our Holy Emperor, Yoshi Hashie, and Ocata, all in the Young Lion match at that show.

01:19:43.956 --> 01:19:45.557
[SPEAKER_00]: You can see that one on NJPW World.

01:19:45.577 --> 01:19:46.418
[SPEAKER_00]: It's kind of a mine screw.

01:19:47.138 --> 01:19:52.662
[SPEAKER_00]: So after his first defense though, his first defense, after winning that title back, by the way, is on NJPW World.

01:19:52.742 --> 01:19:54.483
[SPEAKER_00]: It was against the Liger and Simo Hall.

01:19:54.503 --> 01:19:55.043
[SPEAKER_00]: He won that.

01:19:55.764 --> 01:19:58.145
[SPEAKER_00]: He was presented with a new junior heavyweight title belt.

01:19:58.185 --> 01:20:00.447
[SPEAKER_00]: They just decided it was time to put up a new belt.

01:20:01.923 --> 01:20:08.206
[SPEAKER_00]: Not a new championship, St. Lenny is just a new, a new belt to carry around, but he was attacked by a new black tiger.

01:20:10.227 --> 01:20:16.650
[SPEAKER_00]: However, there was also the fourth black tiger backfuting with him, and the fifth one kind of faded into the background for a second.

01:20:16.670 --> 01:20:22.132
[SPEAKER_00]: So black tiger, number five attacks him, then kind of goes away, but then the fourth one comes out.

01:20:22.212 --> 01:20:23.613
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, he's got all kinds of problems now.

01:20:24.093 --> 01:20:25.353
[SPEAKER_00]: So he fuelled with the fourth one.

01:20:25.373 --> 01:20:26.354
[SPEAKER_00]: That's Rocky Romero.

01:20:26.374 --> 01:20:28.715
[SPEAKER_00]: He defeated him in April and a mass versus mass match.

01:20:30.438 --> 01:20:32.298
[SPEAKER_00]: Takes the mask off, Rocky Romero, right?

01:20:33.139 --> 01:20:35.859
[SPEAKER_00]: After winning that, the fifth black tiger attacked him.

01:20:36.099 --> 01:20:37.700
[SPEAKER_00]: After he takes the mask off, a rocky.

01:20:38.260 --> 01:20:41.641
[SPEAKER_00]: And unmasked tiger mask, I'll put the towel over and said, no, that kind of stuff.

01:20:41.961 --> 01:20:44.261
[SPEAKER_00]: So now he had yet another black tiger to deal with.

01:20:44.662 --> 01:20:46.262
[SPEAKER_00]: That feud went all the way to Dominion.

01:20:46.362 --> 01:20:53.624
[SPEAKER_00]: And once again, tiger mask won a unmasked black tiger five as Tatsuhito Taikawa, who is the Taikawa, rather.

01:20:53.984 --> 01:20:58.125
[SPEAKER_00]: And he was the first Japanese guy to be in the black tiger.

01:20:59.205 --> 01:21:07.967
[SPEAKER_00]: Guys, that whole get up was it's always been foreigners as black tigers before that going back to Mark Rocco and Eddie Guerrero and Rocky and all that.

01:21:08.727 --> 01:21:12.148
[SPEAKER_00]: He held that title until 2009 when he lost it to Mystico.

01:21:12.268 --> 01:21:14.948
[SPEAKER_00]: So in this run, we're talking about he's beating Atlantis.

01:21:15.268 --> 01:21:19.349
[SPEAKER_00]: He's wrestling Mystico who was on his way to being the next Atlantis.

01:21:19.649 --> 01:21:23.170
[SPEAKER_00]: Basically in CMLL is the Megastar.

01:21:23.230 --> 01:21:26.951
[SPEAKER_00]: He lost it to Mystico but he regained it for his sixth reign in November.

01:21:28.390 --> 01:21:30.452
[SPEAKER_00]: Again, a lot of guys don't lose very much.

01:21:30.472 --> 01:21:32.053
[SPEAKER_00]: We'll lose the tiger mask in this run.

01:21:33.034 --> 01:21:37.057
[SPEAKER_00]: He would drop that to Naomi Chimara Fuji at Wrestle Kingdom 4 in 2010.

01:21:37.477 --> 01:21:48.746
[SPEAKER_00]: So as we get from 2007 to 2010, perennial champion, always a factor in super juniors, appearing in Mexico a lot in featured matches at Wrestle Kingdom.

01:21:49.532 --> 01:21:56.857
[SPEAKER_00]: However, when we come back and we're getting close to the end here because his retirement match will be, will be previewing his retirement match next week.

01:21:57.237 --> 01:22:13.087
[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to talk about how he began to slide down the cards a little bit as age began to win out and he would be seeding the floor to a new generation of junior heavy weights and new Japan pro wrestling and becoming the elder statesman.

01:22:13.487 --> 01:22:14.948
[SPEAKER_00]: that we know and love today.

01:22:15.008 --> 01:22:16.850
[SPEAKER_00]: That's going to be next week on the show.

01:22:16.870 --> 01:22:19.872
[SPEAKER_00]: So this was kind of a little bit of his last hurrah.

01:22:19.932 --> 01:22:25.216
[SPEAKER_00]: Jeremy as far as being the top guy that they could always put the belt back on him.

01:22:25.376 --> 01:22:29.139
[SPEAKER_00]: He would put over somebody like a meast to co somebody like

01:22:30.460 --> 01:22:38.248
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, some of the other guys you lost to that low key, that type of thing, but he would be the stalwart New Japan guy that would regain the title.

01:22:38.969 --> 01:22:49.579
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's almost time for people like Kishita and people like Haromu to kind of come in and take that spot as the standard bear for New Japan pro wrestling and the junior heavyweight division.

01:22:50.039 --> 01:22:52.201
[SPEAKER_00]: We'll talk a little bit more about how that happened next week.

01:22:55.002 --> 01:23:03.066
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm always impressed with your ability to call all together like biographies and just do it week to week and like a serial fashion.

01:23:03.486 --> 01:23:04.106
[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you.

01:23:04.587 --> 01:23:07.448
[SPEAKER_00]: I get to do it again for a 10's-on soon, right now.

01:23:07.508 --> 01:23:11.970
[SPEAKER_01]: But like the patients that it gets, like odd preparing all this and then not even get to do it.

01:23:12.010 --> 01:23:14.471
[SPEAKER_01]: Some weeks it's like, that would bother me.

01:23:14.491 --> 01:23:17.453
[SPEAKER_01]: So I was like, I worked so hard to get this and now I have to wait another week.

01:23:18.173 --> 01:23:18.934
[SPEAKER_00]: It's fun for me.

01:23:19.294 --> 01:23:23.336
[SPEAKER_00]: I enjoy going back and looking at it because I can put a lot of things in context.

01:23:24.322 --> 01:23:32.324
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I said even when you look at a major show that Tiger Mask is on, you see what the other main events were and you see who the young lions are.

01:23:32.364 --> 01:23:42.887
[SPEAKER_00]: So you can see the the the past, the present and the future all in one card because as I go through and look at what Tiger Mask's present was him being involved in the junior heavyweight title.

01:23:43.207 --> 01:23:48.769
[SPEAKER_00]: A lot of times the main event or the semi final is somebody from New Japan's past.

01:23:49.823 --> 01:24:02.375
[SPEAKER_00]: as a special attraction to the cell tickets, and then that young lion match, you'll see a name like Yoshi Hash, you know, Kata against Taiji in a six man, young lion match that goes six minutes, you see the future.

01:24:02.876 --> 01:24:07.320
[SPEAKER_00]: So it entertains me to kind of go through it and you really see the passage of time there.

01:24:09.385 --> 01:24:16.050
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm looking forward to meeting you for in person for the first time in person in Chicago.

01:24:16.530 --> 01:24:17.031
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sorry.

01:24:17.051 --> 01:24:17.791
[SPEAKER_01]: It's my mind at that.

01:24:17.831 --> 01:24:18.892
[SPEAKER_01]: We've never done that before.

01:24:18.932 --> 01:24:19.633
[SPEAKER_00]: No, we never have.

01:24:20.213 --> 01:24:22.235
[SPEAKER_00]: I feel bad that I can't be there on Friday.

01:24:22.255 --> 01:24:24.576
[SPEAKER_00]: I just can't am flying in Saturday.

01:24:24.596 --> 01:24:27.178
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm missing a lot of the day before festivities.

01:24:27.218 --> 01:24:31.522
[SPEAKER_00]: But we fly flying in Saturday morning flying out Sunday evening.

01:24:31.602 --> 01:24:35.325
[SPEAKER_00]: So, but I'll be there in time for the show in Hoffman estates.

01:24:37.346 --> 01:25:02.417
[SPEAKER_00]: probably meet the power bombshells to the salmon mell are going to be there also you're going to be there and hopefully some other new Japan pod cathart hopefully some fans so far not a ton from what i'm seeing on second master but maybe it'll pick up what we've got a card down so many should show up right could be fun could be a Friday could be a could be a fun thing to do with the last minute in Chicago well there's a lot of great things to do in Chicago

01:25:05.713 --> 01:25:08.115
[SPEAKER_00]: It's really, there's a lot of good stuff to do there.

01:25:08.155 --> 01:25:09.816
[SPEAKER_00]: So we're going to be in a really good shape.

01:25:09.836 --> 01:25:10.836
[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to be in a really good shape.

01:25:11.897 --> 01:25:13.738
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, I think we're good, brother.

01:25:14.279 --> 01:25:14.479
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:25:14.759 --> 01:25:16.800
[SPEAKER_00]: So next week, we'll talk about forbidden door.

01:25:17.360 --> 01:25:19.442
[SPEAKER_00]: We will preview two more cork and haul shows.

01:25:19.502 --> 01:25:21.723
[SPEAKER_00]: One of its features, Tiger Masks, retirement match.

01:25:22.324 --> 01:25:30.969
[SPEAKER_00]: Another one that features, junior heavyweight title match, we have qualifying matches for the G1, plenty to get into as we head toward.

01:25:31.309 --> 01:25:34.511
[SPEAKER_00]: One of the biggest runs of the year, we're going to get right to G1 climax.

01:25:35.632 --> 01:25:37.575
[SPEAKER_00]: busy, busy time coming up Jeremy.

01:25:37.956 --> 01:25:40.981
[SPEAKER_00]: This little run here where we don't have a lot of shows in NJPW world.

01:25:41.061 --> 01:25:43.424
[SPEAKER_00]: I can have a worry about that once G1 gets going.

01:25:43.444 --> 01:25:44.787
[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to be struggling to keep up.

01:25:46.345 --> 01:25:55.351
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I feel like the call before the storm right now, you know, like the conversations that we're not really going to have any shows, other than for Bindor that I'm going to end up recapping twice.

01:25:55.371 --> 01:25:56.332
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm using to me.

01:25:57.853 --> 01:26:04.758
[SPEAKER_01]: And then after that, it can be like, oh, I wish I had that problem, but it would be like for three or four shows a week for about four weeks.

01:26:04.798 --> 01:26:05.078
[SPEAKER_01]: Great.

01:26:06.710 --> 01:26:22.593
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and, you know, forbidden door will be interesting in, in this way, it's, it's not the most canonized in, in, in New Japan storylines, I grant you, and some of these matches feel a little bit thrown together, but we're probably going to see some high quality wrestling on that show.

01:26:22.613 --> 01:26:24.773
[SPEAKER_00]: They can't, you know, mega Zack match ought to be terrific.

01:26:24.853 --> 01:26:26.194
[SPEAKER_00]: Podcast versus showeders should be good.

01:26:26.594 --> 01:26:30.114
[SPEAKER_00]: And like Estabond mentioned, who knows, kind of how long we're going to be doing this.

01:26:30.455 --> 01:26:32.315
[SPEAKER_00]: One other thing Jeremy, I did want to mention though.

01:26:32.535 --> 01:26:32.715
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

01:26:33.698 --> 01:26:42.942
[SPEAKER_00]: At that Fantesca Mania show, they announced that there will be another New Japan CMLL crossover show in November.

01:26:43.062 --> 01:26:49.284
[SPEAKER_00]: So Fantesca Mania, in Mexico, he's sitting here in June in November.

01:26:49.324 --> 01:26:51.405
[SPEAKER_00]: They're going to have Lucha Kingdom.

01:26:52.418 --> 01:26:56.779
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's going to be in that little spot kind of between King of pro wrestling and the tag team tournament.

01:26:56.999 --> 01:26:58.520
[SPEAKER_00]: It's going to happen in about mid November.

01:26:59.080 --> 01:26:59.720
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

01:26:59.860 --> 01:27:01.081
[SPEAKER_00]: Lucha kingdom coming.

01:27:01.141 --> 01:27:08.623
[SPEAKER_00]: So while the AEW and New Japan partnership seems a little tenuous, the best right now.

01:27:09.443 --> 01:27:09.923
[SPEAKER_00]: But who knows?

01:27:10.043 --> 01:27:11.404
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it happened in wrestling, right?

01:27:12.044 --> 01:27:24.652
[SPEAKER_00]: If they are kind of drifting apart a little bit, it does seem like CMLL and New Japan are as tight as a tick, because now they're doing fantasticomania tour, of course, every year it's always a big event and always does well for New Japan.

01:27:25.728 --> 01:27:36.014
[SPEAKER_00]: now we've got a special event and these matches were CMLL versus New Japan and they had a trophy for the winner set up for each one is emblematic on the victory.

01:27:36.414 --> 01:27:39.096
[SPEAKER_00]: So they treated it like them versus us.

01:27:39.716 --> 01:27:41.057
[SPEAKER_00]: Now we're going to have a luchic kingdom.

01:27:41.457 --> 01:27:46.560
[SPEAKER_00]: It seems like CMLL and New Japan are still feeling very good about their partnership with the British.

01:27:48.013 --> 01:28:11.283
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they feel like much more natural partner right now, than like AEW and AEW feels like the like the corporate overlord, that's just like, oh, yeah, we're gonna take a little bit of you here, take a little bit of you there, where when the ML on each fan kind of get together, it feels like there's an organic synergy between, I think the talent just might fit more with each other.

01:28:11.904 --> 01:28:13.424
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think that's true too.

01:28:15.526 --> 01:28:24.210
[SPEAKER_00]: Strong style and luchely-bray are very, very different, but it does seem like each side enjoys dipping their toe in the other style a little bit.

01:28:24.870 --> 01:28:26.891
[SPEAKER_00]: So I think everyone has fun with it.

01:28:27.171 --> 01:28:39.216
[SPEAKER_00]: And so, and certainly for the New Japan guys to go over to a week of packed arenas with 16,000 and 5,000 and 4,000 over and over again, that's good for morale man.

01:28:39.236 --> 01:28:43.658
[SPEAKER_00]: That feels good to walk out down an aisle and see that many people there watching you.

01:28:45.828 --> 01:28:48.024
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, looking forward to the next couple of weeks, man, or be fun.

01:28:48.652 --> 01:28:48.952
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

01:28:48.972 --> 01:28:58.576
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I want to say thank you to War Hero, Maria Graciela Sayez, Fernando, Estabon, USDA guy, Larry, James, all you guys, thank you so much for joining us here live.

01:28:58.656 --> 01:29:03.158
[SPEAKER_00]: And for those of you who are listening to this later as a podcast for here on YouTube, as always.

01:29:03.378 --> 01:29:04.298
[SPEAKER_00]: We're grateful for your time.

01:29:04.318 --> 01:29:06.359
[SPEAKER_00]: Don't forget about all the great programming coming up.

01:29:06.379 --> 01:29:10.901
[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to have forbidden door covered, WWE covered right here on the fight game media network.

01:29:10.941 --> 01:29:13.502
[SPEAKER_00]: So, for Jeremy Feinstein, I'm Stephen Conway.

01:29:13.842 --> 01:29:16.783
[SPEAKER_00]: This has been Speaking of Strongstyle, and we will talk to you again real soon.