Briscoe Drills MJF, Forbidden Door Preview & Go-Home Dynamite Recap | The Dynamite Show


Paul Fontaine and Jeff Hawkins recap a loaded go-home edition of AEW Dynamite — 8 matches, but not a lot of build for Forbidden Door — and then preview Sunday's PPV. The show ended with a wild brawl between Team MJF and Team Briscoe, capped off by Mark Briscoe hitting the Jay Driller on MJF after a miscommunication with Andrade. Also on the show: Konosuke Takeshita defended the AEW International Championship against Ricochet, Queen Aminata and Harley Cameron punched their tickets into next week's Survival of the Fittest TBS title match, Zack Sabre Jr. picked up a win over Jack Perry ahead of his match with Kenny Omega on Sunday, and the Death Riders opened the show with four straight matches.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Dino-ma!
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[SPEAKER_01]: Alright, so down in my show, Paul Fontaine, Jeff Hawkins, here on the fight game media YouTube channel, checking in a little bit later in usual, because the overrun was a little bit long as we may have expected when the announced eight matches for go home show, which you know, like, I saw that line up, and I'm like, okay, this got to be a mistake.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know they're taping collision tonight, so probably at least a couple of these matches are on collision.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I swear to God, I think Tony just took it as a personal challenge.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to get my eight matches in and
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[SPEAKER_01]: Screw building the paper view.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's get these eight matches in.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, uh, I heard.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, they did after the match, but I heard speculation that, oh, this is a counter program in the world cup because, okay, he's a soccer guy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I would know this is just how they do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Can't go home.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Sure.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we'll, we'll, we'll.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, I heard about this and I don't quite understand it because I haven't listened to Dave's explanation, but you have to explain this to me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So he loves soccer, so his idea is to put on a match with a bunch of wrestling shows, or with a bunch of wrestling matches, what, because he thinks people are gonna watch soccer, so it doesn't matter.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Or because soccer has limited commercials and it's always action and always on, so we're gonna just have nonstop wrestling on this show because that's what wrestling fans want.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But what does that have to do with soccer?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, because my thinking was okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What is it?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Is it just that he's tossing in the towel?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I didn't look at the lineup and everyone was like, oh, wow, look at this lineup, and I'm like, um, it looks like every collision I've ever seen.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I, here's where I get a little bit mad, Paul because there are at least three matches on every go home show that are for the next show after the paper view.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I don't mind that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I really don't because I think that you should be building stuff for after the paper view.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That part I don't mind.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, but they're they're qualifying matches for like multi-person schmazzes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, look at this is qualifying that that that match next week looks hideous and I mean and they still have one more qualifier And I don't know when they're doing it because the matches next week.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess it'll be on collision and they haven't announced it yet I am gonna guess on the buy-in.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, maybe and it might be the return of willow
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that would be swell.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So she would be in the match for the vacant title that she vacated herself.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Why did she vacated that?
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I don't think it's gonna be, I think you're wrong there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, I hope I'm happy with that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I hope you're wrong because I can't think of anybody I'd want to put in there, but maybe I might be like, a hater or did you want any of these?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, this match looks horrible.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Will last phrase wife.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think might be in there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe in a title at us at at.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, because we care so much about her after last week.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, by the way, shout out to the power.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Bob.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Every moment of it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Do listen or watch the whole watch the whole show they did, but if you don't have time to watch the whole show, just watch the clip where Sam went off on will with a few F bombs.
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[SPEAKER_01]: and uh... you know what the promo itself was bad enough you know what you could say he's in the moment he's feeling the crowd he's a but when you start going after true actual fans and tell them to touch grass
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[SPEAKER_00]: female fans mind you that respectfully told you how they felt I forgot about that part, but yeah, okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what that that's what sets him off.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought that's okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This woman that he went off on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She's a long time that's a quarter.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That Catherine numbers.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She including his own promotion in the UK that he that she is supported.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Shout out to DASA for also just lightning use on them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah, I enjoyed that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Especially about was it, uh, uh, land culture, I think it's how he put it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, there's there's stuff about that that I don't really want to talk about here, but I mean, I think, yeah, I think it's, it's got to do with what's behind Will and I don't even think he understands what he did.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't really want an apology for him from him because I don't think he's actually sorry.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So there's no point in apologizing me, not sorry, just move on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you know, like and and don't do it again, too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And next time somebody said something, you don't like on social media rather than respond to them, just shut it off.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Mutant block.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's easy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's great.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, we did get a super chat.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I noticed there's some people in the chat already, uh, career hits here and our friend, Plathora sent a super chat.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He says, says, the big news for tonight was big cat Nikita multimedia winning the volatile.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Thanks for following that for me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I normally watch on Thursday morning, but that's
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[SPEAKER_01]: Carmen is leading Paradell Mall in AAA and Natties group is on fire.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Who's Natties group?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I get through Natties group is Nikita and is out in Carmen Petrovich.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, kind of thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She's kind of taking them under her wing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's cool.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like Nikita is freaking all over the place.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I see her on everything I want.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She has gotten in better shape and she has gotten better at wrestling and she has put it together with the personality a little bit I have no problem with this I'm Carmen Petrovitch finding something to do is a good thing because she does have natural talent Her problem is time is running out on whether or not she could be a star not so hey, let's put her with a group see what happens.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm good with this, but that's that's the other company
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know I know what you're doing here and I love you to death and we will answer your tough questions with super chats
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[SPEAKER_01]: So when everyone's talking about the big four shows that are happening this weekend, because you've got, you've got of course for Bindor, which will preview at the end of our dynamite recap.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You say TNA, I'm going to kill you TNA, we've got a class of champions or night of champions, whatever it's called in Saudi Arabia, and we've got NXT.
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[SPEAKER_01]: whatever they're so it's called, great American bash, great American bash, and we had evolved succession.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, today.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that that five big shows that we have this weekend.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and I think Aaron work defended his title as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I can't remember who he was wrestling, but I'm pretty sure he won since it was taped already, and he defended the same title that he's defending defended it live last night.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So
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[SPEAKER_01]: unless they had him defending a title he'd already lost.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, but Pothor probably would spoil it for me if he won.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's a big cat in the key to congrats to big cat in the key to ice.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was amazed she didn't get cut on one of these last couple cuts.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was too, especially after the second injury.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but you look like that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You get a few more chances than most people lost weight and she's gotten in shape and she's I mean and her heel characters far better than her baby face persona you know she reminds me of a I don't know if you'll get this reference but Kila pops for it is a star from the show star Lee Daniel show from fears back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's a deep cut that I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, no, it's I mean if you saw it you'd see it Like she's I think she's taken inspiration for that care.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I believe you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but anyways It is we are here to recap die to might and like I said we will preview for Bindor at the end of this The overarching theme title.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I kind of mentioned I mean eight matches
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[SPEAKER_01]: on the show.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so they had a lot to get in and then they had also promised a team Don call us mjf and team brisco we'd hear from both of them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And we did.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let me give the Hawkins thesis on go home shows.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The point of a go home show is to build tension for your programs, not to release tension, not to dampen tension.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's to build tension and intrigue for the card on Sunday.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Just keep that in mind, kids, as you listen to the angry ranting that I will be doing tonight.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we open this show with a deathwriters promo backstage.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The John Moxie is trying to fire them up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, Will Osprey is with them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I should note, even though he insists he's not part of this group.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And
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[SPEAKER_01]: So they start after he starts talking.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They start jumping around like idiots.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Ospere doesn't know what's going on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So he joins in.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He ends up falling over, which I think may have been a shoot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then he starts laughing and they're patting them on the head.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I have no idea what the hell this was, but it happened.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're one of us now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We've bonded.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That was karma, but we'll only ask Lady B says.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank God for Lady B.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and yeah, so then it's built into a match with Willospray.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, not Willospray.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I wrote that on screen, but it wasn't Willospray.
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[SPEAKER_01]: John Moxley, Claudio Casting the only and we're the Uda of the Death Riders.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Again, Rosito and mystical.
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[SPEAKER_01]: First hour of the show was all Death Riders all the time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I hope, and the Death Riders, you're soaking in.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, Mystico and Brodito come out to Mystico's entrance and, uh, fans here, um, this is not the best Mystico entrance I've ever seen, but uh, the song school.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, Nigel is on commentary.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I should point out with Excalibur and Tony Shivani.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So no Taz, no, uh, Daniel Bride even though they were pretty darn close to where he lives.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't know what's going on with him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and death right at the heels this week, um, Marina was at ringside with them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And, uh, and they are wrestling as heels.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, crowd.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So the death writers were heels this week.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, for now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's, let's, let's book, let's book that mark that for later.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We will, we will.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll book it for the end of the match, honestly, but crowd was better than they were last week, but they're kind of up and down all night.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They really liked Brody.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Anytime he did anything, they went nuts.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Bandito got a big pop by deadlifting, suplex of Bandito.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Mr. Co, who is probably the biggest drama in the world and won the rest of the year last year in the Observer Awards, was there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I mean, that's all I can say.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like he didn't do anything.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He didn't get any reaction.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he's got a match on on Saturday.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So he's wrestled here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's wrestling again tonight because they're taping it tonight.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So he's wrestling twice tonight.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The second match is going to be teeming with Mike Bailey against Adam Priest and Tommy Billington.
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[SPEAKER_01]: and then he's in the sixth man on Saturday Sunday and in between that he's going to Mexico to challenge semi-gavara and beast mortals for the R.H. tag team titles, which he may be defending on Sunday at the paper view if they win.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Got all that?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he was having some issues in this match communicating.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, yeah, and I didn't.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll be honest with you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I barely was paying attention to this match because I was just I was just confused by what was going on and I they had a match.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They did a bunch of stuff.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was not as long as most moxley openers are, which is probably good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And Marina interfered.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think she hit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't it was at Bandito or Brody with a belt.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what led to the finish.
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[SPEAKER_01]: just a total heel finish crowd-heated it and that was it and that was it so we established that the deathwriters are heels in this that that's basically what this established because because John Moxie's facing Ben Dito on Sunday so I mean that did you know we got some build to that there was a little bit of interaction between those two but not much and the I think no the death the rest of the deathwriters are they're not doing anything on Sunday are they?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, anyways.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Not to my knowledge.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but I think there'll be in a multi-person technology on the buy-in.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's only ten matches.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, I don't understand.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, we you have time to add five more into the show.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, and we'll check because I imagine something I'll get added, you know, while we're talking.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Can I be the person to posit that Brody King has a Luke Harper Brody Lee problem?
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[SPEAKER_01]: What's that problem?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Promise is he's a big guy with amazing agility.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The problem is he doesn't every week.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it doesn't seem that special to me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He does that dive outside and they put him in a match every week.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And everybody's impressed by it, but I see it every week, so I'm not as impressed anymore.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's one of those things where it's like, I wish he just hold off for big events to pull out the luchus stuff that he's doing, which is very, very cool.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Isn't that what the person we won't name used to tell Luke as well?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, and why he got so pissed off when he had that match with diejack that everyone loved.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but he had the match with diejack at a big event.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, wasn't it was a fact in dark match at no it was worlds collide, which was like basically a WrestleMania dark matches that they do for the right, but I'm still in an event for that live crowd for yeah, but it wasn't a big match.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I get it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No granted it's it's just one of those things, but well, okay, he was right on that one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sorry.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but the other thing it does is it also hurts.
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[SPEAKER_00]: a guy when you're in there with mystical who is yeah after your size yeah and then he does the same thing and he doesn't look as impressive exactly yeah yeah that was my problem with this match is that mystical is trying to do his stuff and here's here's big ass broody gig doing the same stuff and it's better so
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, or at least it's good anyways.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, that was, uh, it was something.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it was fine.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was, you know, your three and a half star collision match.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, it's here on Dynamite on the go home.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Trilling Jeff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There you go.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I literally wrote down three and a half stars.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I did do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, my notes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, that's fine.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Every collision man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Just three and a half stars.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's pretty much.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And we got an interview with Briscoe's team minus briscoe, Darby said some inspiring stuff.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Roddy brings up Adam Cole, so he'll always hate Max for what he did to his friend.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Orange Cassie points out the ass backpacks for everyone, and you can put whatever you want.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's kept to put his belt in, if he wants.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then, everyone leaves except for Orange Cassidy and Renee.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I noted that Renee was wearing a rebel shirt, which is nice.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then Orange Cassidy says, it's fine.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's fine.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I think we were supposed to believe that Leo Rush is infected Orange Cassidy's brain, because Renee got all of a sudden all was creeped out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: and then they can't band like maybe he was going to come out from somewhere but he didn't.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm not exactly what this was about, but I think this is something we're going to be seeing more of over the impression I believe.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So yes, I think maybe Orange Cassie's going to be infected by whatever Leo Rush was infected with to get him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so what did I say, my thesis was this is to go home shows are to build tension for
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm listening to said tension comedy stuff like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, let's not do the Roddy strong yelling random names gimmick in the middle of the in the middle of the promo for the main event of your paper view Orange Cassidy make a joke spoke backpacks
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, uh, saying it's fine, and Darby was awesome, Darby was great.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, and, and it was also the only thing I didn't write down exactly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but yeah, he was great.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Darby is Darby's freaking, uh, he is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He is, he is, he is, he is, he is, he is, he is, he is, he is, he is, he is, he is, he is, he is, he is, he is, he is, he is, he is, he is, he is, he is, he is, he is, he is, he is, he is, he is, he is, he is, he is, he is, he is, he is, he is, he is, he is, he is, he is, he is, he is, he is, he is, he is, he is, he is, he is, he is, he is, he is, he is, he is, he is,
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[SPEAKER_01]: now I believe that he is championship material whenever you do it because our dealin is the Luther's winner for the first half of the year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He won't win at the end of the year, but Darby's great.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I agree.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: uh... then we got marina shafir and harley camera so marina was still at ringside from the opener uh... that was a recurring theme for the beginning for the first part of the show and she's just sitting at ringside laughing because she's got it and that's coming up and uh... harley camera comes out in her supergirl outfit and uh... they had been announced i guess on social media that they were going to be doing a show in partnership with supergirl and i guess it was just this match because there was nothing else
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[SPEAKER_01]: and I'm not upset about that by the way, but I will say my wife was in the room while this match is on and she was hanging out with Emily because I always ignore Emily during a w because I have to take notes and just in the middle of this match my wife blurt out, I guess she's looking at the screen and she's like, you know for Halloween maybe Emily
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[SPEAKER_01]: Whoa, you got that she's just that like super good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You got that her name is Harley Good for you, and you're are good for a W for getting her over I guess by the way shout out to the comic book fans Harley looking more like power girl than so Girl, but I digger is okay
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[SPEAKER_01]: So Marina attacked her before the bell because they're heels this week Harley made a comeback Harley or sorry, they pointed out before the commercial break.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, this match went through a commercial break for some god for sake in reason Marina was wearing boots for the first time ever in a w they point out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, then they go to commercial they come back
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[SPEAKER_01]: What's your gun?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Did she took him off during the commercial?
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, or I believe she did.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Don't know why.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Did she maybe she just forgot?
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[SPEAKER_00]: She wore the boots to walk out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: in the dirty arena and then forgot to take a ball for her match.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what I'm thinking.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So Marina is just dominating Harley after the break and apparently all through the break.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She's using Judo throws.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She's laughing about it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She's not taking anything seriously.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then Harley just gets a way out of pin out of nowhere, rolled her up, got the pin, big upset.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Marina loses way too much now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They protected her for so long and now she just losing every time she
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[SPEAKER_00]: I saw a good friend of mine okay from fight full asking why they beat her here and I said because it's corporate synergy and you don't beat somebody when you're doing the plug for your sponsor.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Why they beat her?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I agree.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a part.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're on her.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was just saying my point.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're not saying why did Harley beat Marina.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're saying why did they're far away.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Why did Marin beat Marin?
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[SPEAKER_00]: There were there were an infinite number of women.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You could have put in the spot to lose.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And instead we decided to do the gimmick.
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[SPEAKER_00]: for part of parts of the show where the last batch bleeds into the next batch, because it's World Cups season and there's limited commercials of World Cups, so we got to keep the flow going on these people tune in away from these compelling matches to go watch USA in the World Cup.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, that's not the USA.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's Mexico tonight.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, um...
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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought it was USA.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What's he worried about?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Nobody's watching.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The US is tomorrow.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Who is it?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, it's Mexico and Czechoslovakia and South Korean Republic of South Africa.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what he was worried about.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Pretty much.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I do agree.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There are more choices.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think you need a mistake around Marina anymore really because the deathwriters are kind of a goofy tech team now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, they're goofy heels now with will.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess, but their heels are bad, so she wins and get this line up now for the, so for the TBS survivalist fiss match, which is next week, by the way, Harley Kim, yes, for Stephanie of CMLL, you are contractually obligated to say of CMLL every time you say her name.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, even though she's signing a W contract, Chris Stattlander and Hakaro Shida.
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[SPEAKER_01]: and two more people to be added.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, including the one tonight, too, is it?
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[SPEAKER_01]: We got, I think, maybe not the best thing on the show, but the thing that I was most impressed with, and I'm so glad they did, the video package for Maya and Mercedes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, because...
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Maya beat.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, Athena on Saturday and they showed highlights of it and they showed a promo and they showed Mercedes cutting a promo and Mercedes said great you beat your teacher.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Why ain't your teacher?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm your boss bitch.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, I love it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I feel bad for you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, but you're not getting any sympathy cards for me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you got dreams dreams don't win championships.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, Mercedes is great.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I loved everything about this except the second camera angle that they kept going to and all these people because they had to tell you it was filmed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, have these two staring in the camera saying these things and I am I am ready for for the match.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Fernando's joined us and he thinks my should win.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll talk about that later.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, we'll talk about it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, it depends.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I would just sit right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'll hold off my opinion.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, yeah, it depends.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So then as you said, uh, we are doing the bleeding into things.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Although in this case, we did, we got a full entrance because Will wasn't there for Marina, uh, Will Osprey does his entrance.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so Will Osprey comes out and Elfantasma comes out to wrestle him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Elfantasma.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, the guy who got choked out by Jake Lee in like four minutes last week I'm a new Japan dominion or whenever it was.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I have a few that dates back to Japan.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Elfantasma top guy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so
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[SPEAKER_01]: I, you know, if anybody listens to this show that listens to my recaps notes, I generally fast forward through the entrances.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So as I'm fast forwarding through the entrances, my wife is still in the room, she says.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Why are you fast-forwarding the entrances?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Is there the best part?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Can we get your wife a membership to the F4 dumps board?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, that's exactly what I think.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that I can bring her in and say, see, it's personalities and pageantry that people would not not three and a half.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Star matches between five foot eight guys on collision who where use go this was a good match.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was technically sound crowd didn't seem into it There was no heat.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what the collision I will every week.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sorry.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm a let me explain something I'm a little mad at the F4W board today because because their angry at Brian Alvarez for reviewing Smackdown before collision and
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[SPEAKER_00]: And they're like, well, but we represent the majority of people who subscribe to this website.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, you're a, you're a damn idiot, all of you because crap happens.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm SmackDown.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's actually important to the general product.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you get good three and a half star matches between the vanilla baby and one of the leaves every week on the way.
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[SPEAKER_01]: or if you're lucky, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, if I was to watch the entrances and if I still wanted to skip stuff for time, what I would actually skip is everything that happens in the match before the commercial, because not of it matters.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Paul, I'm going to make a request to you right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: OK.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I would like you to go through the Will Osprey match and then go directly into the Swarve match.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, they wrestled to a commercial.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The match is fine.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't have anywhere near the reaction that an Oscar match usually has.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Excalibur says they're evenly matched.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It shouldn't be that way.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Will is going to be your world champion at the winning the title of the biggest show of the year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And Elfaden Tazmo is just a guy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he really is just a guy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like even in Japan, he's just a dude.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and uh, so Osprey hit a stung dog millionaire.
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[SPEAKER_01]: E, Elfantazbo no sold it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hit a center of his own crowd kind of pot for that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Got a light ELP chant and then an A W1.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They traded four arms, Osprey almost knocked him out with one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, Excalibur points out that Sunday's show is a love letter to pro wrestling.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I almost threw up, uh, they both hit a bunch of kicks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Osprey hit a standing Spanish fly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He went for a hidden blade, ELP counter with Arana and a roll up for two.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Then he hit a thrust kick for two.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Osprey hits a style of class, then he hits a hidden blade and got the win.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And as he's leaving the ring, he's shaking his hands with the fans.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I figured there must be an angle coming or something.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And of course, it bled into Swarves entrance.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So Swarve comes out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And they don't really do much.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They just kind of looked at each other.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And we'll laugh.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He didn't stick around for a Garcia's match.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then we got Garcia, who entered from another country.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he comes in, you know, it's a standard death right at an entrance.
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[SPEAKER_01]: uh... and then we got swirf strickland daniel Garcia now i wrote down there's not a ton of heath of for this because swirf is a heel and Garcia is part of a hill group or at least this week is the fans have no idea who to cheer for
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[SPEAKER_01]: If, if Garcia was a baby face and I will point out that in recent weeks, they have been baby faces at times and I thought about three weeks ago, Moxica did something, there was something to happen on one of the shows.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They had this big brawl, I think it was on collision where like the death rioters made like the total 1,000% baby face safe and it really seemed like, okay, this is the actual turn, their baby face is now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And no, of course, like, you know, this very show, we've had two matches already where they were heels.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So the crowd, they don't like Garcia, but he is wrestling as the freaking best baby face in history.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's just doing these baby face, come back, he's fighting, and he's fighting, and swirb is like just being the biggest dick ass heel, and not selling anything, and then Garcia's fighting back and finally gets them down and, well, but, and if because he was
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[SPEAKER_01]: But because he's a heal, they didn't care at all about any of this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And eventually, Swerv hit a back elbow.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's Galibur randomly points out because he's bored and was about to fall asleep.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That everyone is banned from ringside for the main event for tonight.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And this is as per Tony Connor.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought, what a great idea.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Why does he just do that for every match?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then Strickland ended up winning.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't even pay attention to how he won.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that was that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That was a match.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Again, the match was laid out perfectly if Garcia's a baby face, but the problem is he's not Let me clear my throat
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[SPEAKER_00]: So following your promos for my award versus Mercedes Monet for your women's number one contender, a baller promo package.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We get.
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[SPEAKER_00]: as a contest to, on Sunday, you have a contest to crown the number one contender for your top title in your biggest paper view of the year, your event paper view, the one that everybody has been waiting for, we get Will Osprey and ELP.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I love ELP.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he has personality.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I take him over 10 guys who are all awake.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I take him over Daniel Garcia at this point.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If I could, but we'll ask for he's having problems beating ELP.
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[SPEAKER_00]: In fact, he's having a, as Tony Shavadi put it, these two are having a good match.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I good match, you
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's an F bomb in me that I can't bear to give right now, Paul.
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[SPEAKER_00]: because what people want to be excited about is will and swear and to people who are willing save your hands on for later with a line that Excalibur gave to tear apart everything and everyone to get at each other to get this title and he can't put away ELP and then and then as you say, we get Daniel Garcia
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[SPEAKER_00]: The loudmouth jerk of the deathwriters who has been a complete dumbass for the past three weeks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Cocky stupid running at the mouth telling will what the business is with the deathwriters and how to be a good deathwriters.
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[SPEAKER_01]: even more.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's coming out again, Swerv Strickland, who all the sun has turned into road warrior Hawk.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And is no selling clothes lines, Garza's bouncing off this guy, bouncing off of him and he's the same size as him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, he's not.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, maybe not, maybe he's spawn, maybe maybe that's okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I need to hold off.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, hold me back a little Paul, pull me back
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Swerve can't put away Daniel Garcia very easily.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The loudmouth dumbass of the deathwriters who should have been run through like a hot knife through butter that he's all talk and an absolute fraud in this case.
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[SPEAKER_00]: who's having problems getting through Daniel Garcia.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I am sitting here going, what is this?
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[SPEAKER_00]: What are we doing?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then, and then after the match, after the match Paul, he's going to break Daniel Garcia's arm.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm sitting here going, going.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Do it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's at least something.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Nope.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Will comes in.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It makes sense for this little dick one that we don't care about because they have laughs at the beginning because we'll have an oopsie in the little Huddle thing and I and I went I went neither of these people to be the number one contender at all in
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, but then, but then, so we'll make the save.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Swerve goes to hit a vertebraicur on Will Osprey.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But little dickhead that we don't care about, Daniel Garcia makes the save.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then Swerve hits the vertebraicur on him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So he did nail him at the end of the illness.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And how lady is, as lady emotionally are scarred by this by the way, oh my god, I should have taken that vertebraker.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was for me, no, so none of this works for what they were trying to do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And lady B speaks to your heart with this comment.
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[SPEAKER_01]: In another universe who key word there, instead of these two matches, we got an intense sit down interview between Will and Swerv with Renee.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, we shouldn't even ever name the same room.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We should have those two.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So angry and willing to kill each other that they're in separate rooms and we can't have them being agreed to no physicality.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, up you are.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've tired of that crap too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, you guys are having a blood feud right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you for agreeing to know physicality here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's a little talking segment up your people.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just like.
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[SPEAKER_01]: some mad right now at this offspray called in the medical staff to check on Garcia and and Chobani points out that he knows all about neck injuries so he's real concerned about his little buddy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's what they were selling in the ELB match.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And nobody was buying it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, they're just doing moves.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Then we got a video package for the 12-man cage match.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was fine.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was briskos promo from a few weeks ago.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That really awesome one he did.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Mixed in with MJF's promo from last year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then they showed highlights of briskos beaten him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: When they had their hardcore match, I think it all in or all out last year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and the video packs was fine.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just I don't care about this match at all.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I mean the thing is like with better planning like the last month like this honestly I came to the conclusion that this should be team Kenny Omega against team mjf and it should be m omega fighting for a title shot at the next paper view rather than brisco fighting on paper view for a title shot that he's probably going to have on TV and lose.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, why should I care about this main event on Sunday?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, that's what I don't really understand, whereas if it was Team Kenny, I would be into it because, you know, you want Kenny to win, so he can get that title shot at the next paper for you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, the swell for people who want Mark Brisco as a title holder isn't there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But then we wouldn't, but then we wouldn't get Kenny and Zach.
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[SPEAKER_01]: which everyone's just dying for, including Kenny, who clearly doesn't care about the smash, not even a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Look, something in the bottom 10 of your match of the year candidates, and hopefully they put on a four and a quarter star banger for everybody to put on their ballots.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That Dave gives five and five and a quarter, because it's in San Jose.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so then we get any won't watch on TV because it's like, no, I thought it was a great life.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, then we get this we get this promo that I know you're going to go off on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yes, uh, the Calis family with MJF.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, uh, Calis says there's only four days left until the greatest all-star team ever assembled of talent shows why they're the best.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Starts with big Jake Doyle.
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[SPEAKER_01]: that's all he says about him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's big.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Then he says the newest member of the Don Calis family, TNT champion Kevin Knight.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he says he's talking to somebody.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I can't remember who I don't remember like I didn't write down who he was talking about.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not even sure who it was.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But he says with subtle or nothing not about what I've done with you on Sunday, I'm going to send you back to the ER.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then he looks at him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Jeff says I want my title shot and I'm just
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he says, yeah, sure kid, whatever you want.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then dog call says, greatest wrestler last 5,000 years old caught up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What do you got to say?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Bitch.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's like, uh, then call a flexures.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Do I get to talk now?
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The second that door is locked up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm coming for you to catch up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll prove why the family never needed you and why I'm the new alpha.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This kid is great.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He says, and then the MJF talks and he says, Mark Briscoe, the gap between me and you is bigger than the gap between your teeth.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Whenever I sit down at a fancy restaurant, the hottest waitress in the world puts a napkin in my in my lap, brings me the finest porterhouse steak in the world, and it just reminds me what color always wins, and you're a blue color bitch.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That fattled prick Tony Shavani says I never kicked out of the Jay Driller,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, that's guess what you never hit it on me anyways when the triple B was on the line and you never will and he looks back and he sees Rocky and Trent and he says, what are these two guys doing here and then Don Gallos just shoot, shoot and they leave
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[SPEAKER_01]: I died, I swear these poor guys, and then, and then he says last week, we were not on the same page.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I won't name names in Droughty and he says, but me and Don Cowes, we figured out the perfect way to get us all worked together, not just as a team but as a family, so get in here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This dude shows up with a bag, presumably a bag full of shirts.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They pull out the shirt and it says team DCMJF and it's got a painting of a jackdog callous and a jacked MJF shaking hands and they show off this shirt to the cows family and these guys are repulsed and they are clearly not fans and not a single one of these guys is ever put in on one of these shirts.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's the I hope not anyways.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, this was, again, it's exactly what you said they shouldn't be doing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm trying to call myself, um, okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, this promo, Kyle Fletcher got it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think Kyle Fletcher was awesome in this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And again, if I had the pencil, Kyle Fletcher would run through Kenny, Will, Swerv, Takeda, Okada, all of them, and get the title.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then he'd be my guy, and then I'd have a marketable star because he'd be talking all the way through.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's the only one who did the job that this whole thing was supposed to do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is not the week for Ha-ha's.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The week for Ha-ha's was last week.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Give the shirts last week.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This week, we're all focused at the job at hand.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And we're getting you in a cage all six of you to kill you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That is the point.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We are united.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And oh, you might be able to do one little one-off thing on MJF and go, Max, when this is over, we'll set it up who and the family is getting title shots.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You'll leave it at that, and Max can still be cocky, but still be a little bit nervous about it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But all these guys standing behind them are the senators in the Roman Senate with Caesar.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They all have knives in their hands, and they're ready to get at M.J. if they need to, but right now, we got a job at hand.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We got to win the war first.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like the fact that anybody in this family isn't telling the jet,
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[SPEAKER_00]: What do you think you're doing new is baffling to me they should have backed off that a little bit
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, Kada doing his bitch routine again.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, he hasn't done it in a while, by the way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He just, he just was holding off on that decided.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And the, and the, and the wording was weird because it was like, well, what do you have to say to the best wrestler in the world?
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's something called a bitch.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, I think they messed up the line there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it sounded like he was calling him the best wrestler in the world.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he said, what do you have to say?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but he was saying, what do you have to say to, no, he said, what is the best wrestler in the world have to say?
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's when he was trying to say, but I don't think he said that, and then he just said.
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[SPEAKER_00]: By the way, I do like O'Cotta as the silver fox.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I kind of did that look on him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's fine.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But then Trent and Rocky as goofs.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Having to get hilarious from the promo it's it's fine, but they never should have been in there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the homo erotic t-shirt as the button on it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, not the time if I could have provided them with notes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: How about
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, last week we didn't get along and and and max I'll be straight up with you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Nobody in this family likes you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But what we do like is your money.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And and because of your money, we will kill these guys.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, and when we're done killing them, then we're coming after you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, last week should be I got a present for everybody.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I got the t-shirts.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Everybody groan's or whatever Max's mad this week.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What was that crap out there?
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, serious.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's time to lock in and they lock in and everybody's just like oh hell Yeah, I'm ready for this standard cage match type of thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's it's kind of I mean the way I'd put it in old school wrestling is Everybody knew in the first war games JJ dealing was taking that fall
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[SPEAKER_00]: and they did the goofy training thing where he hit all all the horseman's finnishers on a job guy with help and they celebrate around the rain whatever but that last week as the go home for the omni everybody was like everybody was locked in there were there were no ha ha and goofy crap and and here's one for you here's one for you Jake Doyle he didn't get say anything here's what he could have said could have said you know what
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[SPEAKER_01]: I would have beat these guys up for free, but you're paying me money, sign me up, and I was finally what Jake Doyle was doing here, just standing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I look mean for it, but I wanted somebody to say that and he's probably the only one, because I wouldn't have changed what Kyle said, and the hotdog would have just made a comedy, and our draw day it wouldn't have worked for the story they're telling.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, I was just flummics by this and time for a moment.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But it was, but it's what people wanted, it's like,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Don Callis is a goof again.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Great.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we went from that to Jack Perry against Zack Saber Jr. Now, the crowd did not care about this at the beginning.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They at times they got into it a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I will just cut to something Excalibur said in the middle of this match.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if you caught it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I did, but go ahead.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so he says,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Zach Saber Jr. once said that doing a technical wrestling match in front of an American audience is like reading Shakespeare to a dog, which is a funny line.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not exactly sure why Excalibur would repeat it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm also not sure why knowing that Zach Saber Jr. would go out on national American television and have a technical wrestling match.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Is he deliberately trying to put on a bad show?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Is that the message we're supposed to get from this?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, because we've met him because they will never tell us the subtext that this is something that Jungle Boy really wants and that Perry really wants a technical wrestling classic with Zack Saber Jr. That You know, it's fine.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but but why tell us?
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[SPEAKER_01]: that Zach thinks that American wrestling audiences don't appreciate technical wrestling.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What does it?
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[SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't match the match is the problem here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If he had, if he had, I agree with you, but it shouldn't have been said during a jungle boy match where they're going to go 50-50 for a while.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They shouldn't have been, he's refusing to do the match.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He just does an arm, arm drag, ankle ox, something, guy taps out the shoe.
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[SPEAKER_01]: shouldn't have been said period that's the line you use in Japan when you're like putting over the Japanese fans as compared to the American fans that is a heel line on the fans.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, why baby face commentator saying it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: To get to get us to boo Zack on the TV show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, okay, but the live audience can't hear it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, that's said before the match.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe, yeah, maybe you can now his wrestling did get them to boo because yeah, he's a great.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's a great wrestler.
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[SPEAKER_01]: and eventually on the outside with the arm lock that was when they finally got into it yeah and then Bryce Rensberg had to steal the scene by like she didn't win the match in the ring well no shit sure lock yeah um but uh and that's actually when he used the line as well but they get back in the ring
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[SPEAKER_01]: Zach Perry was trying to pin them Zach put on a triangle Perry lifted them up for a power bomb And that that's when the crowd finally started getting into the match.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They got a light.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is awesome chant Zach put on a sleeper Perry rolled them up Zach rolled him up Perry put on the snare trap Zach basically no sold it and I did like that Nigel explained why it didn't work like he he explained you know Zach is great and
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[SPEAKER_01]: He was able, he knew that it was coming and he knew how to counter it and what he was doing, totally countered it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: God out of it easily went for an arm bar, Perry hit a close line, went for a pile driver, Zach kicked out at two, then Zach put on a leg lock, Perry was trying to slap his way out of it, then Zach grabbed his arm, now he's got two different limbs.
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[SPEAKER_01]: and Perry's got no chance.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now in Japan, he usually ends up grabbing like four limbs, but Perry tapped out with only two.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, so that was a decent match.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's verbally submitted because he had nothing to tap with.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And the only thing I'll say, the only downside to this is kind of kill this finish.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But other than that, it was a really good match.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What this match needed as bad as this might have been, like Kenny Omega should have been out there on commentary.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but other not or at least that rings side because it might be and Mikey and and and whatever the other Tito Tito big teach.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They were both there because it's customary in New Japan for stablemates to be at rings side That's what it's got over told us.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, we're not in New Japan dumb ass.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but But then why wasn't can you make out there that you know
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[SPEAKER_00]: Again, got to give Kenny a reason to come out and the reason is he breaks his arm on the outside.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is the one to do the Swerv Strickland match against Russia with right here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But it matches his good match.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But no, we had to do the blending the buck's match.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think I finally figured out the reason why they did this because they were able to save on some entrances.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's how you get eight matches in because you don't have to get these pesky
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, you keep things flowing the entire time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is how raw would do things occasionally too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, when Vince Rousseau's crashed you the year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so yeah, even like in foreign countries, I'll do this sometimes WWA where it's like guys walking up and they start the next person entrance and they look at each other.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, it's supposed to set something up and whatever, you know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So they were at rings side.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They were there already for the next match and then the bucks did their entrance.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then they went to commercial, which they almost never do, like during the entrance.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then they came back and I don't know if the match had already started or if the belt rang as soon as they came back, I'm not sure which, but it doesn't really matter.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They basically, this was basically like a squash.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was a bucks highlight match.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, there was a little bit of TMDK, you know, on offense for like a minute.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then the bucks made a baby with his comeback,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Meltzer driver one two three.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's nothing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was fine.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was good showcase.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, this honestly like we should have had like every match on the show should have been this to be honest But you know like I because they got big match on Sunday and they want to match and they looked impressive
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's, you know, I mean, this, it's funny because it's probably maybe, well, no, that Marina matches worse, but it was, you know, the second worst match on the show, but it was actually the one of the best things on the show because we didn't need good matches, we need build for the paper view.
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[SPEAKER_00]: KISS.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Keep it simple.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Shithead.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Not stupid, but yeah, I know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll go there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but it was fine.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, and it was everything it needed to be that's the that's all you need it bill.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He went in after the match.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They did more build Zach attack Nick.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, it's they said it was Nick, but it was actually Matt.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So even the now just can't tell these guys apart And and then the other TMDK joined guys joining in then kiddo mega made the save and Jack Perry as well
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[SPEAKER_01]: Kenny and Zach squared off briefly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Kenny shirts had strength and heaven.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not sure what that means But this this this face off was stupid to yeah, you they had this face off and then They're they're they're they're you want to fart you they're doing the like the fifth grade elementary school fight You have I I'm not gonna punch you because I might get some spin and then they start doing strong style crap Yeah, nobody wants to see that just start fighting
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[SPEAKER_01]: Kenny gets the better of the strong scout crap, and then he's about to hit a V trigger, but the TMBK guys pull him out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Kenny gets a mic, and he says, well, wasn't that just a little bit of good fun?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Nothing personal, just a warm-up, but this Sunday at forbidden north, you and I, one on one, made the best man win.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And once I do Winsack, I'm out for redemption, keyword, so enjoy, because when it comes to Sunday, everyone's gonna forget about you like they did last year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I've no idea what he's talking about, but I don't think he needed to say it, whatever it was.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The Zach asks for a mic and he says, I can't he?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Try to stay out of the hospital, right, Darlin?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like why can't you need it to say that?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like he's gonna go like called the jerk store and they ran out of you Was that friends?
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, that's sign fell because they ran out of seafood.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, well the jerk store called and they ran out of you God, I saw this I would
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, again, the point is to build tension.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I mean, there's tension.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's like, I think we're just...
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just comedy and good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like we're supposed to think there's like real life tension between these two guys.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because I didn't understand a word they said so I just assume it's inside baseball stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If there was real, yeah, okay, I'll grant you that, maybe.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But if that's true, then just have, have Zach work over the stomach somehow and say, try and stay out of the hospital for Sunday.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Darling, darling, and drop the mic.
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[SPEAKER_01]: for now is looking forward to this match.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think we all are.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, they're both very talented professional wrestlers.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then we got a video package for Techland Starlight Kid.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This was pretty good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess Starlight Kid invaded a startup show over the weekend and went nuts.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And she was about to hawk a luggie on the startup logo and the president of the company dove onto the logo to protect it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then she, you know, basically cut whatever promos and and then at the very end as she's leaving.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, I'll leave.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll leave.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll leave.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then she, where the hell's my belt?
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[SPEAKER_01]: She is so awesome.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Did you see her interview or clips from her interview?
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I think it's vanvillators.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She's talking about why so many wrestlers date.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's worth reading that quote alone.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Why?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because they like the fuck?
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[SPEAKER_00]: She just goes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's just a lot of horniness.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, people are in shape and horniness, and also a lot of people just don't understand what we do So it's a great year, yeah, but especially the horniness There's a lot of Connor is a lucky lucky man Although okay Yeah, well, yeah, Paul I'm trying to save you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's just move on
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was just going to say she might be a handful, um, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So then we got red velvet and Queen Almanada.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Tony Shavani reminded us that this tournament is happening because red velvet hurt Will and I can go and that's why the title is vacant.
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[SPEAKER_01]: the reaction was like less than nothing at the beginning of the match, but I will say that by the end of the match, the crowd was into it because these two, this match was sloppy as hell, but they were beating and shit out of each other.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So the crowd liked that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: and Red Velvet was dominating.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She hit a frog's blast where she looked like when she landed like she probably weighs 110 pounds maybe, and she looked like she waited about 400, the way she landed and the way that I'm not a reacted.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There was one spot where it was early in the match when she very developed a power bond.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not off the top rope.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right on to her tailbone that look like it sucked and yeah, so she dominated the whole match and then and then Then I'll not end up winning.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I can't remember how and I didn't write it down But credit to them because they got they they got to crowd by the end of the match So they accomplished but again in terms of building to the paper view
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[SPEAKER_01]: not much they announced or nothing at all actually they announced during this match that Kevin Knight will be defending his TNT tell him on Saturday on collision against Desmond Xavier so that has a hell of a lot to do with Kate Rathson Sunday and Spider-Man being where they're both pointing at each other yet
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[SPEAKER_01]: Mercedes Monet and Athena against Diane and Maya, which is actually a really good match to set up the paper view and they would announce later on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess Tony Khan was a big fan of his own idea of no everyone banned from ringside for the international automatch, so everyone will also be banned from ringside for the TNT title match.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And again, I say why not just make it a rule for all the title matches?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let me state this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I really like both Aminata and Red Velvet.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think Red Velvet is an untapped resource.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, charisma in AEW and I like what she does on ROH.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think she does.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I like much like Diamonte.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I believe she and Athena.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I believe both of them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If if if they had more than one women's match a week usually, I believe they would merit being promoted to the quote, quote, main roster.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The old Queen Ammonata is back though, Paul.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: One that was killing fools.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, the problem is it's legit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And eventually she's going to get hurt again.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I'm here to ride.
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[SPEAKER_00]: In that six woman, there are five other people who might die at the hands of Queen Ammonata.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I am kind of here for this especially worse.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll die herself.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Or someone's going to stop taking it at some point.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm kind of here for that, too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: My money is on Chris Talander on that one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, oh, yeah, yeah, please.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's go pay a little bit of the most interesting staff landers have been in years again.
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[SPEAKER_00]: the joy of it is watching women struggle for their lives in a match where pro wrestling isn't real, but boy, it does feel real when you watch these videos.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, I learned that they're learning on the job.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm kind of here for it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not going to lie.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, we will see it next week on the special three hour block of which we will review two of them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, we're going to have to go with the three.
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[SPEAKER_00]: OK, cool.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, no, I mean, less it's dynamite.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I think I'll leave it to dynamite in collision.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The bucks are out there doing an interview.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And they really hadn't not much to say, just your standard.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we're great.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Awesome.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I guess the subtext here was, I think, was that because, as they were talking in the background, we see Copenhage beating the shit out of the dogs.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And Copenhage, you may recall, or the AW tag team champions.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think the subtext here was that the bucks just got a big win.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They got a big match on Saturday and they're going after the world titles when they're done on Saturday.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, but anyways, so this was basically just a backdrop for this brawl.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And the coping cage are beating the shit out of them, and then, uh, and then eventually Clark Conner spots a female backstage, puts her in front of himself to stop the beat down.
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[SPEAKER_01]: A cope stops what he's doing to move the lady out of the way.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That allows the dogs to get the better hand, and then they end up just beating the crap out of them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And, uh, at the very end of this, they, you know, as they're standing over the old guy's
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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, someone on Twitter pointed out that David Finley was wearing the same glasses that Christian used to wear when he was, yes, they had them on the in the set where the brawl was and he picks them up and he puts them on gotcha.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And, uh, and then I just pointed out where security.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I again.
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[SPEAKER_00]: the creative instincts here were wrong because they were for two left moments.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're crawling.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Edge and Christian look at the bucks during the promo.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, did it, did it, did it, did it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then they gave me some comment.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they was like, oh, how are you doing?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then we get to the thing, look,
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not, I am old school enough, and I don't get offended easily.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So when you grab a woman for cover, that's a healish thing to do, I will boo it, it will get heat.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you push her out of the way into the baby faces, to give yourself time to run away, I'm here for it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Instead, it's the stop the fight, take her, move her over here, continue the fight, slapstick moment.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and so once and then and then these glasses from 2002 just happened to be in the scene so they can do the five second post parody with fail.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean I didn't get it till I saw it on the stairs.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know how I got it immediately.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I did.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Did you?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Did you?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to say this again in case anybody missed the take down but you didn't watch collision on Saturday.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Did you or did you?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm now actively not going to watch collisions, so I can anger the board.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Did you hear about the skit that the bang bang bang did?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes I did, and I heard it was good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Did you hear about the inside joke that me and three other people probably in the world got?
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[SPEAKER_01]: So as juice Robinson, the gist of the skit is that they're opening up a pet clinic where juice Robinson is going to perform castrations on dogs because of the feeling with the dogs.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So he's got his first patient.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it just happens to be this gentleman who doesn't get identified, but the gentleman who doesn't get identified is Wil Ferara.
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[SPEAKER_01]: from Old School R.O.H.
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[SPEAKER_01]: who happened to be part of a tag team called The Dogs.
01:00:08.461 --> 01:00:08.742
[SPEAKER_01]: Huh.
01:00:10.508 --> 01:00:26.614
[SPEAKER_01]: I, howled, but again, nobody got it, but it was good enough like if you didn't understand the joke, you still probably would have laughed at the skit because it was, you know, Juuss Robinson being goofy and he's going to castrate this guy, but the joke is he's a dog and he's like, I'm not a dog, but he's a dog.
01:00:26.814 --> 01:00:27.774
[SPEAKER_01]: He was part of the dog.
01:00:27.794 --> 01:00:34.036
[SPEAKER_00]: See, here's how little I know about ROH history until you told me will Ferraro was an ROH wrestler.
01:00:34.136 --> 01:00:34.596
[SPEAKER_00]: I thought you're
01:00:39.498 --> 01:00:47.785
[SPEAKER_01]: No, will for our, and it to be fair, it was 20, 17, 18, so it not old school, or it was like right before Tony bought it.
01:00:48.185 --> 01:00:57.873
[SPEAKER_01]: But, but he, yeah, it was him in retitous, where the dogs and I don't, they may have won the tag team titles, I'm not sure.
01:00:58.273 --> 01:01:06.380
[SPEAKER_01]: But will for our super nice guy, I met him in Dallas and hung out with them for, for a while, I'd nice chat with him, super nice book, Tiny Guy.
01:01:07.392 --> 01:01:09.954
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, it was I killed myself laughing at them.
01:01:10.654 --> 01:01:13.096
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, then we got the main event.
01:01:13.196 --> 01:01:18.319
[SPEAKER_01]: We're at the main event already So it's crazy when nothing happens how you how you can get through a match with with date match.
01:01:18.339 --> 01:01:29.626
[SPEAKER_01]: How show with eight matches Ricochet and Kinozuke to catch up for the international title reneeded or sideline reporting at the beginning and Something about Ricochet being the perfect opponent or something.
01:01:29.646 --> 01:01:30.727
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know
01:01:31.567 --> 01:01:34.129
[SPEAKER_01]: And they go to break with five minutes left in the hour.
01:01:34.149 --> 01:01:35.789
[SPEAKER_01]: They come back from break with a minute left.
01:01:35.890 --> 01:01:38.351
[SPEAKER_01]: Crowd is kind of mid, but they got into it by the end.
01:01:38.371 --> 01:01:40.292
[SPEAKER_01]: Because again, they had a great match.
01:01:40.332 --> 01:01:41.573
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not exact sure why.
01:01:42.073 --> 01:01:47.996
[SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, they, so they, Rick Shay knocked him out of the ring to catch the gut in the apron.
01:01:48.036 --> 01:01:48.997
[SPEAKER_01]: Got knocked off again.
01:01:49.337 --> 01:01:50.858
[SPEAKER_01]: Rick Shay is getting great heat from the crowd.
01:01:50.918 --> 01:01:52.779
[SPEAKER_01]: Stomp it on his head as he was trying to get back in.
01:01:53.779 --> 01:02:02.662
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, the announced for collision, this line up, you know, like, I, you know what, I know there's a paper beyond Sunday, but I'm not sure you could miss this collision.
01:02:03.723 --> 01:02:04.763
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, oh, I can.
01:02:04.783 --> 01:02:06.163
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
01:02:08.404 --> 01:02:09.445
[SPEAKER_01]: Jake Doyle, okay.
01:02:09.545 --> 01:02:10.865
[SPEAKER_01]: I, one of this has got to be wrong.
01:02:11.525 --> 01:02:13.426
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, because I've got Jake Doyle and
01:02:14.771 --> 01:02:25.094
[SPEAKER_01]: Adam Priest, but then I also wrote down that mystical and Mike Bailey are facing priests and billing to know, you know what, Ms. Cohen Bailey, it's even better than priests and billing to them.
01:02:25.354 --> 01:02:26.854
[SPEAKER_01]: They're facing the premier athletes.
01:02:27.094 --> 01:02:37.717
[SPEAKER_01]: I actually remember this, um, Persephone against Billy Starks, who probably should have been the one to lose to Harley Cameron and Chris Jericho and JD Drake.
01:02:39.277 --> 01:02:44.540
[SPEAKER_01]: So Jericho doesn't have a match on the paper view, but he's wrestling JD Drake on collision.
01:02:44.620 --> 01:02:49.502
[SPEAKER_01]: So good job not signing with the WWE Chris.
01:02:50.183 --> 01:02:54.205
[SPEAKER_01]: Now I'm just kidding me, he's he probably doesn't want to still have the match.
01:02:54.265 --> 01:02:55.245
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm Sunday though, right?
01:02:55.746 --> 01:02:58.147
[SPEAKER_01]: No, that matches two weeks from now on dynamite.
01:02:58.927 --> 01:03:00.468
[SPEAKER_01]: July 8th at beach break.
01:03:01.097 --> 01:03:01.698
[SPEAKER_00]: Good Lord.
01:03:02.078 --> 01:03:02.458
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, okay.
01:03:03.820 --> 01:03:05.001
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, Beach Break, I think it's called.
01:03:05.421 --> 01:03:21.737
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyways, back to the match and it's funny because I said back to the match and out of nowhere to catch the hits, ricochet with a blue thunder bomb, I wrote nothing else before that and Tony Shivani says not only was that his best move in the match, but it was one of his only moves.
01:03:22.337 --> 01:03:24.840
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's like right out of the blue, it's a finisher.
01:03:26.014 --> 01:03:31.236
[SPEAKER_01]: Ricochet is pummeling with forearms to catch up, punch himself in the face to fire himself back up.
01:03:31.276 --> 01:03:34.437
[SPEAKER_01]: Then he fired back, Ricochet hit a bunch of kicks to catch a roll them up.
01:03:34.997 --> 01:03:42.540
[SPEAKER_01]: Ricochet kept trying for a vertigo, but couldn't hit it, it's catching a hit and vertipow driver, hits it, then he hits a wheelbarrow suplex.
01:03:43.160 --> 01:03:45.681
[SPEAKER_01]: That could have been the finish, but Ricochet just knows sold it.
01:03:46.081 --> 01:03:49.963
[SPEAKER_01]: Then he hit a vertigo, starts trash talking him to catch a fired up again.
01:03:50.843 --> 01:03:53.365
[SPEAKER_01]: hits a power drive knee, goes to the top.
01:03:53.385 --> 01:03:54.607
[SPEAKER_01]: He's a shooting star press.
01:03:54.667 --> 01:03:58.630
[SPEAKER_01]: Again, that could have been a finish, but you know, he gets two count crowd shining.
01:03:58.650 --> 01:03:59.371
[SPEAKER_01]: This is awesome.
01:04:00.172 --> 01:04:03.535
[SPEAKER_01]: The screen went black for a second, and this wouldn't be the last time.
01:04:03.935 --> 01:04:06.237
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if it happened for you, but it happened friends did not.
01:04:06.257 --> 01:04:06.778
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, for me.
01:04:07.178 --> 01:04:07.438
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
01:04:07.819 --> 01:04:09.220
[SPEAKER_01]: Ricochet went to the top rope.
01:04:09.320 --> 01:04:10.361
[SPEAKER_01]: Took his time to catch the
01:04:12.443 --> 01:04:33.975
[SPEAKER_01]: hit a German suplex from the top row, but Rick Shay landed on his feet, went for the spirit company, missed it, to catch they hit an elbow, went for the knee again, but Rick Shay countered it, then to catch the countered him with a power bomb, then he's about to hit a power drive knee and the ref jumps in front of him and won't let him hit it.
01:04:35.078 --> 01:04:46.524
[SPEAKER_00]: No idea why the announcers have no idea why like it's like no then the announcers tried to cover for it by saying that Ricochet pulled the referee in front of him.
01:04:47.145 --> 01:04:48.145
[SPEAKER_01]: But that's not what happened.
01:04:48.866 --> 01:04:56.690
[SPEAKER_01]: I agree and it looked like one of those deals where the guy is too hurt to continue and the reference to check on him to make sure that he can keep going.
01:04:57.130 --> 01:04:59.311
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what it looked like but that's not at all what happened.
01:05:00.032 --> 01:05:01.633
[SPEAKER_01]: And then Ricochet just gets up.
01:05:02.898 --> 01:05:24.101
[SPEAKER_01]: and hits a headbutt with behind the refs back, and then he hit a thrust kick and a Rico saw but only got two, fans are chanting refuse suck, and I wrote down their right, then the catch does acting days acting like he can't stand, Ricochet went for another spear gun but catch the counter dot with a laryot, then he hit the power drive knee, ref let him do it that time,
01:05:24.641 --> 01:05:26.702
[SPEAKER_01]: Then he hit the raging fire and he got the pin.
01:05:26.902 --> 01:05:30.725
[SPEAKER_01]: It was a great match, but again, I don't know why I needed to happen here.
01:05:31.325 --> 01:05:33.887
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't do anything to build for the paper you at all.
01:05:33.907 --> 01:05:36.348
[SPEAKER_01]: But it's great match.
01:05:36.388 --> 01:05:39.890
[SPEAKER_01]: And I guess for Rick Shake, because he doesn't match the paper you, this is basically his paper view match.
01:05:40.671 --> 01:05:42.132
[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, and that was that.
01:05:42.712 --> 01:05:43.933
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I'll tell you why.
01:05:44.013 --> 01:05:49.536
[SPEAKER_00]: It's because well, we had that one match that blended into another, and that one match that blends into the match.
01:05:49.576 --> 01:05:51.678
[SPEAKER_00]: The blends into the Mark Brisco promo.
01:05:52.745 --> 01:06:00.188
[SPEAKER_01]: which they had promoted earlier in the night because he wasn't there for the math, the promo that he's teamed in and I'd forgotten about that.
01:06:00.668 --> 01:06:02.249
[SPEAKER_01]: So I thought, oh, the show's over.
01:06:02.289 --> 01:06:02.589
[SPEAKER_01]: Great.
01:06:02.609 --> 01:06:04.449
[SPEAKER_01]: I can get going on the dynamite show.
01:06:04.750 --> 01:06:06.210
[SPEAKER_01]: But nope.
01:06:06.970 --> 01:06:16.814
[SPEAKER_01]: The, uh, so Marcosco comes out and he says, now Sunday night, if we're bitten or it's going to be steep, still cage warfare, 12 men, one cage.
01:06:17.394 --> 01:06:19.155
[SPEAKER_01]: Me and my buddies are ready to have some fun.
01:06:19.978 --> 01:06:22.820
[SPEAKER_01]: We're ready to throw down and cally live on paperview, baby.
01:06:23.440 --> 01:06:27.203
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, let me remind you all, my crew, we got a bit of a reputation in this type of match.
01:06:27.683 --> 01:06:31.946
[SPEAKER_01]: Bodies, if you will, let me take you back to the most recent rendition of blood and guts.
01:06:32.386 --> 01:06:34.147
[SPEAKER_01]: Conglomeration versus deathwriters.
01:06:34.688 --> 01:06:39.411
[SPEAKER_01]: After a knock-down drag-out war, you know, a little bit of a problem getting that catchphrase out.
01:06:39.451 --> 01:06:42.333
[SPEAKER_01]: We stood victorious, and that night it was all about the thrill of fight.
01:06:42.393 --> 01:06:43.233
[SPEAKER_01]: The thrill of the battle.
01:06:43.714 --> 01:06:47.016
[SPEAKER_01]: But if we're bitten door, the complications are a little bit more consequential.
01:06:47.960 --> 01:06:51.522
[SPEAKER_01]: And here's where the screen went black again, and it was at least 15 seconds.
01:06:51.562 --> 01:06:53.162
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm not sure what was going on with TSN.
01:06:53.702 --> 01:07:05.407
[SPEAKER_01]: I think what was happening was Frick and TSN was supposed to be going to the World Cup and they're probably pissed that Tony Khan tank it is Frick and wrestling show over in time, so they can air rate World Cup that people want to watch.
01:07:05.688 --> 01:07:06.108
[SPEAKER_01]: But anyways.
01:07:07.248 --> 01:07:29.373
[SPEAKER_01]: uh... he says the championship is held by the scum of the earth himself max will jake of freedman crowd starts chanting for mjf at this point and they're not into brisco's promo at all i should point out and they've occurred to me this dude who is a great promo and he's compelling he had nothing to say here uh... all he's doing is saying the same stuff he said all along but he kept going
01:07:30.320 --> 01:07:33.242
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, MJF, I never thought I'd say this, but I agree with you, man.
01:07:33.742 --> 01:07:42.548
[SPEAKER_01]: I agree with something you said anyways, me and you are nothing alike and thank God I'm nothing like you because you are a privileged soft little baby boy and Max, I'm a grown-ass man.
01:07:42.988 --> 01:07:44.509
[SPEAKER_01]: And if I want something, I'm going to earn it.
01:07:44.849 --> 01:07:46.951
[SPEAKER_01]: Just like I'm going to earn this title shot Sunday night.
01:07:47.411 --> 01:07:49.013
[SPEAKER_01]: Max, you sound like a broken record.
01:07:49.273 --> 01:07:50.274
[SPEAKER_01]: You sound stupid.
01:07:50.534 --> 01:07:52.516
[SPEAKER_01]: Mark Briscoe is not championship material.
01:07:52.777 --> 01:07:57.081
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, this is America man, and you can say anything you want, but let me stay the fact for you real quick.
01:07:57.481 --> 01:07:59.403
[SPEAKER_01]: I beat your ass before and I can do it again.
01:07:59.824 --> 01:08:07.271
[SPEAKER_01]: So Sunday and forbidden door, I'm gonna be walking on the battlefield with my brothers who I live in would die for and they die for me and Max, who you got.
01:08:07.592 --> 01:08:09.173
[SPEAKER_01]: That's right, the Don Calls family.
01:08:09.394 --> 01:08:10.355
[SPEAKER_01]: Here they finally booed.
01:08:11.115 --> 01:08:15.259
[SPEAKER_01]: Mighty towels at individuals in that don't count family, but they don't give a damn about you, Max.
01:08:15.599 --> 01:08:23.266
[SPEAKER_01]: Matter of fact, if you caught fire, if you started to spontaneously combust, I doubt if the don't count family would piss on you to put the flames out.
01:08:25.708 --> 01:08:29.631
[SPEAKER_01]: That brings out Don Callis, and then he says,
01:08:31.040 --> 01:08:32.922
[SPEAKER_01]: Boy, you got your boy in a lot of trouble.
01:08:33.303 --> 01:08:44.696
[SPEAKER_01]: I hope you can hear me because when I win this title, and he stops, when I win this title, because I think that was the cue for Max T. And he was late and Max hit him from behind.
01:08:44.797 --> 01:08:49.522
[SPEAKER_01]: And then that started off a chain where every single person on both teams came in and hit one move.
01:08:50.323 --> 01:08:56.809
[SPEAKER_01]: I should note that Kyle Fletcher and Ocada were dressed in their suits that they were in earlier as they were doing this running, which was cool.
01:08:57.430 --> 01:09:06.498
[SPEAKER_01]: And then eventually ended up with Orange Cassie in the ring, and MGF comes back in the ring, hits him with a nutshot from behind,
01:09:07.570 --> 01:09:13.992
[SPEAKER_01]: And then, uh, to do brisco, uh, attacked him, M.J. F, locked in a trade driller.
01:09:14.372 --> 01:09:17.033
[SPEAKER_01]: But on Draude, it was the only guy that hadn't read in yet.
01:09:17.153 --> 01:09:18.733
[SPEAKER_01]: He makes, he makes a save.
01:09:19.273 --> 01:09:20.354
[SPEAKER_01]: And Jeff starts yelling at him.
01:09:20.854 --> 01:09:22.014
[SPEAKER_01]: He says, look at me, shut up.
01:09:22.794 --> 01:09:23.755
[SPEAKER_01]: They get into shoving match.
01:09:23.795 --> 01:09:24.895
[SPEAKER_01]: Don't cows trying to break it up.
01:09:25.633 --> 01:09:31.439
[SPEAKER_01]: On Draw Day, sorry, MGF tells on Draw Day a pick brisco up, puts on his ring again, and you could see this coming a mile away.
01:09:32.020 --> 01:09:34.422
[SPEAKER_01]: He went to the hit brisco, hits on Draw Day instead.
01:09:34.462 --> 01:09:41.910
[SPEAKER_01]: Then he starts yelling at him, calling him a moron, and then brisco grabbed MGF, hit the drage pillar, MGF sold it like a champ, and that was the end.
01:09:42.050 --> 01:09:44.112
[SPEAKER_01]: So the last part of this was fine.
01:09:49.638 --> 01:10:00.168
[SPEAKER_01]: Like whatever happened before the ricochet down to catch the match, they could have just done this and That would have been like they you know, they didn't need that ricochet match and this was a good way to end the show.
01:10:00.208 --> 01:10:02.090
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought but Yeah, it's good.
01:10:02.250 --> 01:10:04.672
[SPEAKER_00]: My problem is this is the same exact sequence.
01:10:04.712 --> 01:10:10.358
[SPEAKER_00]: It's probably going to be in the cage match on Sunday Does this is how they like probably hearty matches probably?
01:10:11.379 --> 01:10:21.687
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, and I assume at least half the participants will be outside of the cage fighting, I hope they begin to move 12 people in a cage, that could be crowded.
01:10:22.788 --> 01:10:25.150
[SPEAKER_00]: No, that's, that's, if they're not doing the double lead.
01:10:25.630 --> 01:10:27.172
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, that's part of the selling point.
01:10:27.232 --> 01:10:33.277
[SPEAKER_00]: If you wanted to feel claustrophobic in a fight, but instead we're going to have to have Kevin night being able to jump off of them.
01:10:33.317 --> 01:10:35.038
[SPEAKER_01]: Are we going to be, are we going to be doing tags?
01:10:35.859 --> 01:10:39.422
[SPEAKER_01]: Or is it, uh, is it a, uh, it might be a tag batch?
01:10:40.912 --> 01:10:41.352
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, God.
01:10:41.613 --> 01:10:45.456
[SPEAKER_01]: So you got 11 guy 10 guys outside the ring inside of a cage.
01:10:46.056 --> 01:10:46.356
[SPEAKER_00]: No, no.
01:10:46.456 --> 01:10:46.637
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
01:10:46.677 --> 01:10:46.897
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
01:10:47.317 --> 01:10:47.797
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
01:10:47.817 --> 01:10:49.058
[SPEAKER_00]: They used to do these types of tag.
01:10:49.198 --> 01:10:49.539
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
01:10:49.559 --> 01:10:49.899
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
01:10:50.079 --> 01:10:50.900
[SPEAKER_01]: And it depends.
01:10:50.920 --> 01:11:01.568
[SPEAKER_01]: Like I guess if they put if the cage gives you enough room that you can go around the ring outside the cage, like if it's not like tied to the ropes, as long as you have that, you can do, you can do it.
01:11:01.608 --> 01:11:02.669
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you can do a tag match.
01:11:02.689 --> 01:11:04.550
[SPEAKER_01]: And then they can be rolling on the outside and stuff.
01:11:05.151 --> 01:11:06.612
[SPEAKER_00]: I found the ending interesting.
01:11:07.052 --> 01:11:07.933
[SPEAKER_00]: We'll talk about it.
01:11:08.683 --> 01:11:10.763
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, that was talking about it now, that was the ending.
01:11:10.824 --> 01:11:13.904
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I mean, we're predicting, okay, okay, okay, okay.
01:11:14.304 --> 01:11:15.245
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, that was the show.
01:11:15.945 --> 01:11:19.065
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, again, there was some, there was some decent stuff to build.
01:11:19.426 --> 01:11:20.986
[SPEAKER_01]: I like the video packages quite a bit.
01:11:22.166 --> 01:11:23.987
[SPEAKER_01]: The last end segment was good.
01:11:24.447 --> 01:11:25.807
[SPEAKER_01]: Again, there's a lot of wrestling on the show.
01:11:25.827 --> 01:11:26.907
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think needed to be there.
01:11:27.287 --> 01:11:31.388
[SPEAKER_01]: I said this, like when the announce is lineup of eight matches, I'm like, you know, I mean, it's fine.
01:11:31.428 --> 01:11:35.669
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure most of the matches would be good, but I think this would be a better show with six matches,
01:11:39.390 --> 01:11:55.359
[SPEAKER_00]: but it didn't yeah, my my think my thing is again the the AEW go home show is undefeated making me not want to watch matches that that I think I had one good one, but yeah, almost all the time and maybe you weren't even here for that one yeah, I think I was gone for that one.
01:11:55.459 --> 01:11:56.439
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I remember that one.
01:11:56.459 --> 01:11:57.200
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I was a
01:11:58.060 --> 01:11:59.341
[SPEAKER_00]: That's out of town or I was it.
01:11:59.442 --> 01:12:03.246
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think I know what I've been like during the Thanksgiving weekend.
01:12:03.626 --> 01:12:05.248
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, because it was a paper.
01:12:05.268 --> 01:12:09.252
[SPEAKER_01]: You then yeah, so we got I got the card here.
01:12:09.833 --> 01:12:10.574
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
01:12:10.614 --> 01:12:13.136
[SPEAKER_01]: 10 matches nine of them are on the main card.
01:12:13.216 --> 01:12:14.698
[SPEAKER_01]: So there's only one pre show match.
01:12:14.718 --> 01:12:16.800
[SPEAKER_01]: So if we get anything, I don't probably just be for the pre show.
01:12:16.860 --> 01:12:19.403
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't see if there's six matches left to be added.
01:12:19.523 --> 01:12:20.004
[SPEAKER_00]: Gotcha.
01:12:20.439 --> 01:12:27.724
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, well, at least three probably, but on the pre show, and this might be news to you because they did nothing to build this tonight.
01:12:27.784 --> 01:12:36.870
[SPEAKER_01]: Although, I mean, you don't really need to build for a pretty much divine dominion, defending the AW women's world tag team championships against Thunder Rose and Olympia.
01:12:43.055 --> 01:12:45.415
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm glad Megan Bing gets 30 seconds in the ring.
01:12:45.695 --> 01:12:48.196
[SPEAKER_00]: That's, is this part of the two-minute challenge or whatever, too?
01:12:48.256 --> 01:12:49.536
[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, no, I, that, that's done.
01:12:50.056 --> 01:12:54.877
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, because, uh, the, uh, tie, tie J, uh, they, they won the challenge.
01:12:54.897 --> 01:12:57.217
[SPEAKER_01]: So, then the challenge is, and then they lost the title.
01:12:57.257 --> 01:13:05.299
[SPEAKER_01]: No, this is just, uh, they, there was something that went on with the Divide Dominion Thunder Roses, so Thunder Roses, so wanted to get a partner from CMLL and she found a limpio.
01:13:05.559 --> 01:13:07.379
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, Megan Bing always a pleasure.
01:13:07.659 --> 01:13:09.620
[SPEAKER_00]: But, uh, yeah, they're going to, they're going to run through them.
01:13:09.920 --> 01:13:10.180
[SPEAKER_00]: Pretty cool.
01:13:10.200 --> 01:13:12.260
[SPEAKER_01]: They should, but I bet she'll be 10 minutes.
01:13:12.680 --> 01:13:15.802
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I bet they go out and go, well, let's make them look good for a little bit.
01:13:15.822 --> 01:13:16.563
[SPEAKER_00]: You're just going to be going.
01:13:16.663 --> 01:13:17.103
[SPEAKER_00]: Why?
01:13:17.624 --> 01:13:18.624
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
01:13:18.644 --> 01:13:22.367
[SPEAKER_01]: That's almost exactly what I said when I preview this with Garrett on the take down yesterday.
01:13:23.748 --> 01:13:30.513
[SPEAKER_01]: The AW World Tag Team Championships, the dogs are challenging a copin cage.
01:13:31.813 --> 01:13:33.875
[SPEAKER_01]: I think the old guys got a win, right?
01:13:35.117 --> 01:13:38.539
[SPEAKER_00]: old guys have to win, and it shouldn't even be much of a match, but it will be.
01:13:39.200 --> 01:13:43.503
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, I think the dogs are, you know, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're all with the dogs are good to know.
01:13:43.583 --> 01:13:53.390
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm saying, but I'm saying in terms of this, it should be coping case, you just want to kill them, and then, and then, but it doesn't, but, but for some reason, we're going to have to have an extended heat segment of some kind.
01:13:53.450 --> 01:14:02.896
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Gabe kid is back, so at some point he's probably going to show up with them, but I think he's having these issues because, uh, they're doing a, um, the G1 in,
01:14:03.917 --> 01:14:04.597
[SPEAKER_01]: Chicago.
01:14:04.877 --> 01:14:05.298
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
01:14:05.498 --> 01:14:21.863
[SPEAKER_01]: One and Gabe kid is part of the G1 and he's not on that card So and he's been in Japan lately, so I think maybe he's having some these issues Okay, and that's courtesy of Jeremy finds some from speaking a strong style He's the first one to mention that in the discord and I'm just piggybacking off of that
01:14:23.327 --> 01:14:49.447
[SPEAKER_01]: uh... we got a three-way tag team match that could end up being for the r-o-wage world tag team titles because uh... mystical and masquerade arada al sky team are facing l-a-fi of semi-gavara and the beast mortos on the c-m-l-l show on friday for the ar-wage tag team titles so if they win this becomes an ar-wage tag team title match but as a hold on hold on hold on hold on i thought you were wrong on this
01:14:50.147 --> 01:14:56.149
[SPEAKER_00]: Because I thought that this three way is three, three person teams.
01:14:56.289 --> 01:14:57.689
[SPEAKER_01]: No, it's three tag teams.
01:14:57.849 --> 01:15:04.191
[SPEAKER_01]: Because I thought Sky Team, Sky Team is the three-man team, but in this case, it's only Mystical and Mastered Roder.
01:15:04.271 --> 01:15:08.632
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, because I thought I was going to be Sky Team, the Bucks and Jungle Boy and the...
01:15:09.312 --> 01:15:13.455
[SPEAKER_01]: You would think based on tonight's show, but no, no.
01:15:13.635 --> 01:15:22.601
[SPEAKER_01]: It's the box against L-Sky team with Miss Cohen, Moscow, Dorada, and Unbound Company from New Japan, which is Shingo, T-Coggy, and to Tom.
01:15:23.041 --> 01:15:24.803
[SPEAKER_01]: And so, I mean, that match would be great.
01:15:25.643 --> 01:15:35.750
[SPEAKER_01]: But I don't know if we can accurately predict the winner here, because I think if L-Sky team wins the ROH tag team title, I think they probably retain, but otherwise, I would expect the box to win.
01:15:37.617 --> 01:15:39.700
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think the bucks are winning the R always taking time.
01:15:39.740 --> 01:15:48.389
[SPEAKER_00]: No, if Skyteam wins at the CML or, yeah, CML L show, then Skyteam will pin the new Japan team.
01:15:48.810 --> 01:15:48.990
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
01:15:49.611 --> 01:15:54.857
[SPEAKER_01]: And, but if not, if not the bucks win this man, yeah, and they'll pin the new Japan team.
01:15:56.084 --> 01:15:59.846
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think they could put him out squared right up, but I don't think.
01:15:59.906 --> 01:16:01.487
[SPEAKER_00]: Two ton is taking the fall.
01:16:01.927 --> 01:16:02.988
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, most likely.
01:16:04.148 --> 01:16:09.951
[SPEAKER_01]: And because he's a CMLL guy, too, he's a dual contract with CMLL and New Japan.
01:16:09.991 --> 01:16:15.193
[SPEAKER_01]: John Moxley and Bandito for the AW Continental Championship.
01:16:15.273 --> 01:16:16.274
[SPEAKER_01]: I feel he might be a draw.
01:16:18.975 --> 01:16:20.056
[SPEAKER_00]: Twenty minute time limit?
01:16:20.436 --> 01:16:20.656
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
01:16:22.948 --> 01:16:27.169
[SPEAKER_01]: I was gonna okay, or moxley wins, and then they set up a match with Brody.
01:16:30.250 --> 01:16:32.550
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I thought it might be a shocker.
01:16:32.570 --> 01:16:34.671
[SPEAKER_00]: I thought they made Belt Bandito here.
01:16:34.911 --> 01:16:37.392
[SPEAKER_00]: Take really, take the title off of moxley.
01:16:37.412 --> 01:16:43.093
[SPEAKER_00]: Let them get involved in Will's world title chase without the need for that other title to be around.
01:16:43.573 --> 01:16:44.533
[SPEAKER_01]: That's not a bad thing.
01:16:45.093 --> 01:16:51.015
[SPEAKER_01]: I kind of had the feeling in my head that moxley's going to keep this title until all in, and then he's going to lose it to swirl.
01:16:51.789 --> 01:16:54.232
[SPEAKER_00]: But then Brody was the one who was screwed.
01:16:54.252 --> 01:16:57.696
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's the weird part of this.
01:16:58.177 --> 01:16:58.658
[SPEAKER_01]: That's true.
01:16:58.858 --> 01:16:59.298
[SPEAKER_01]: That's true.
01:16:59.959 --> 01:17:03.023
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to say that Brody wins the title off of Moxley.
01:17:03.163 --> 01:17:03.443
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
01:17:03.844 --> 01:17:06.948
[SPEAKER_01]: So that would be maybe on the next paper view or on TV.
01:17:07.905 --> 01:17:13.589
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, or, or they do a three way where it's Brody and Bandito because they've, they've done the time limit draw.
01:17:13.609 --> 01:17:18.733
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if they'll ever do a three way for this title, but they could, I mean, there's no reason they can't.
01:17:18.753 --> 01:17:20.294
[SPEAKER_01]: Moxie makes up his own rules all the time.
01:17:20.314 --> 01:17:26.719
[SPEAKER_00]: But it feels like that would be, and this would be the, oh, yeah, you remember the F ice chance that we'd ever took advantage of.
01:17:26.819 --> 01:17:29.000
[SPEAKER_00]: Here's your, distillation process.
01:17:29.020 --> 01:17:32.063
[SPEAKER_01]: This, I mean, that would be a great title for him to have, honestly.
01:17:32.683 --> 01:17:39.808
[SPEAKER_01]: because if you want anybody out there that's wrestling a match where nobody can interfere, you got the biggest baddest dude on the roster.
01:17:40.489 --> 01:17:51.777
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but it also feels like, man, it feels like if you're going to elevate a luchador finally in AEW, you know, it's time to put actual real title on Bandito as opposed to the ROH world title.
01:17:52.998 --> 01:17:54.919
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I'm going to, I'm going to stick with Moxie.
01:17:54.939 --> 01:17:55.500
[SPEAKER_01]: I said draw
01:17:57.772 --> 01:17:59.134
[SPEAKER_00]: I will go with Moxas well then.
01:17:59.494 --> 01:18:00.675
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
01:18:00.735 --> 01:18:05.921
[SPEAKER_01]: Then we got a singles match for the IWGP global heavyweight championship.
01:18:07.002 --> 01:18:11.447
[SPEAKER_01]: The champion Shota Umino is defending against Pock of the dance writers.
01:18:15.465 --> 01:18:17.967
[SPEAKER_01]: Show to umino has to be show to umino.
01:18:18.248 --> 01:18:23.813
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I mean, this is, you know, this is just their token way and I guess, because I don't know what else they're winning on this show.
01:18:24.473 --> 01:18:30.299
[SPEAKER_01]: Nothing, uh, probably not, uh, yeah, no, I don't think so.
01:18:31.059 --> 01:18:31.280
[SPEAKER_01]: Um,
01:18:41.055 --> 01:18:42.176
[SPEAKER_00]: Take last to win this.
01:18:42.496 --> 01:18:43.236
[SPEAKER_00]: I think so.
01:18:43.276 --> 01:18:45.258
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, Starlight Kid being the champion.
01:18:45.978 --> 01:18:54.743
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, the only way, and so I would say there's like a 5% chance is like, if Starlight Kid was the winner, it's maybe because Mercedes Monet wants to face her at all in.
01:18:55.264 --> 01:18:56.524
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, no, I like it.
01:18:56.544 --> 01:18:58.806
[SPEAKER_01]: But like I like I said, that's a 5% chance.
01:18:59.166 --> 01:19:00.667
[SPEAKER_01]: I agree that I think Tech was winning.
01:19:01.347 --> 01:19:03.829
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, let's reconsider this then.
01:19:05.122 --> 01:19:07.843
[SPEAKER_00]: because Monet has a heel, teclas a heel.
01:19:08.563 --> 01:19:11.104
[SPEAKER_00]: It's either that or teclas drops it between now and all in.
01:19:11.444 --> 01:19:16.265
[SPEAKER_01]: Or the other, I mean, the thing we're not considering is, yeah, teclas a heel, but maybe she's not facing Mercedes.
01:19:17.606 --> 01:19:18.466
[SPEAKER_00]: That could be a tooth.
01:19:18.606 --> 01:19:23.647
[SPEAKER_00]: So, yes, let's, I'll go with teclas here, but boy, that's intriguing to be a star like you.
01:19:23.727 --> 01:19:26.208
[SPEAKER_00]: When's the world title on our first night there?
01:19:26.228 --> 01:19:28.709
[SPEAKER_00]: And they've made some sort of arrangement with StarDum.
01:19:29.289 --> 01:19:30.849
[SPEAKER_01]: To have her for the next couple of months.
01:19:30.869 --> 01:19:32.270
[SPEAKER_01]: And then she did the photo.
01:19:32.290 --> 01:19:32.590
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
01:19:33.110 --> 01:19:34.391
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's a possibility.
01:19:34.972 --> 01:19:38.434
[SPEAKER_01]: I wouldn't be the most surprising thing that it's ever happened, but I'm not expecting it.
01:19:38.634 --> 01:19:46.801
[SPEAKER_00]: It would be something, and if they had any idea how to push a champion first thing out of the gate, it could be cool, but they don't, and they'd relegate it.
01:19:46.821 --> 01:19:54.206
[SPEAKER_01]: And you could even send some A, W, wrestlers to start them to challenge Starlight Kid for the title and get them some experience over there.
01:19:54.226 --> 01:19:56.268
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, who would be great going back there as
01:20:01.712 --> 01:20:02.573
[SPEAKER_00]: or Julie Hart.
01:20:03.073 --> 01:20:04.554
[SPEAKER_00]: Julie, a heart would be fine.
01:20:04.594 --> 01:20:04.775
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
01:20:05.375 --> 01:20:06.136
[SPEAKER_00]: Sky blue.
01:20:06.176 --> 01:20:07.577
[SPEAKER_00]: You can keep her over there.
01:20:08.918 --> 01:20:09.318
[SPEAKER_01]: Harley.
01:20:11.180 --> 01:20:12.441
[SPEAKER_00]: Harley and stardom.
01:20:13.582 --> 01:20:13.982
[SPEAKER_01]: Stardom.
01:20:14.002 --> 01:20:16.884
[SPEAKER_01]: Harley would be a great fit from what I've heard of stardom.
01:20:17.104 --> 01:20:18.125
[SPEAKER_01]: Harley would be a great fit.
01:20:18.686 --> 01:20:21.788
[SPEAKER_00]: She'd be a great fit down the cart.
01:20:22.168 --> 01:20:23.029
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, of course.
01:20:23.069 --> 01:20:23.269
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
01:20:25.212 --> 01:20:29.674
[SPEAKER_00]: Give me give me a Harley and then I don't think she's in start-up.
01:20:29.694 --> 01:20:34.336
[SPEAKER_00]: I think she's in another Promotion, but Harley versus Mackie Edo would be in a cell.
01:20:34.376 --> 01:20:36.277
[SPEAKER_01]: I think she does wrestle occasionally for start-up.
01:20:36.457 --> 01:20:38.638
[SPEAKER_01]: I could be wrong, but Harley and Bozilla
01:20:42.274 --> 01:20:54.874
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so the women's own coat heart cup final the winner receives an A W Women's World Championship match at all in it is Mercedes Monet defending her own heart cup, which is not never lost
01:20:55.949 --> 01:20:57.310
[SPEAKER_01]: against my world.
01:20:57.930 --> 01:21:01.291
[SPEAKER_01]: And again, this is the one, okay, all the matches on the show.
01:21:01.311 --> 01:21:04.792
[SPEAKER_01]: This is the one where like I'm pretty sure who's going to win all of them.
01:21:05.153 --> 01:21:13.156
[SPEAKER_01]: I'd say I'm like 90% sure on almost every other match, but this one, I'm like maybe 60% that is Mercedes, but I could see my winning.
01:21:14.896 --> 01:21:17.858
[SPEAKER_00]: I heard Alvarez.
01:21:18.198 --> 01:21:19.938
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I've heard I've heard about it.
01:21:19.958 --> 01:21:21.259
[SPEAKER_01]: I haven't heard it, but
01:21:22.190 --> 01:21:28.755
[SPEAKER_00]: And if you're gonna do it, do it, and see what you have with her, and she ain't at that level yet where you can see what you have with her.
01:21:28.775 --> 01:21:29.536
[SPEAKER_00]: That's the problem.
01:21:29.576 --> 01:21:30.637
[SPEAKER_01]: Problem, that's the problem.
01:21:30.917 --> 01:21:36.381
[SPEAKER_00]: I can't in any world and apologies to Fernando as well.
01:21:36.802 --> 01:21:37.802
[SPEAKER_00]: Love your optimism.
01:21:38.023 --> 01:21:42.186
[SPEAKER_00]: There's no way in hell you can have my world win this and then go after the title at Wembley.
01:21:42.606 --> 01:21:43.047
[SPEAKER_00]: No way.
01:21:43.167 --> 01:21:48.351
[SPEAKER_00]: Unless she wins the only way I can see my world winning this is if she loses the title shot to Windsor.
01:21:50.288 --> 01:22:12.493
[SPEAKER_01]: But then like they they've never done that where you put they've never done that it's dumb to do that yeah, but no this has to be Mercedes has to be so my I had had a booking idea I think I said it on the fight game podcast when I subbed for Garrett and I had I had at that time said maybe you can have Mercedes lose in the tournament
01:22:13.517 --> 01:22:17.400
[SPEAKER_01]: And then she goes on and beats Tecla for the title.
01:22:17.961 --> 01:22:19.142
[SPEAKER_01]: And then you have a rematch.
01:22:19.542 --> 01:22:20.243
[SPEAKER_01]: No, you said it here.
01:22:20.503 --> 01:22:21.103
[SPEAKER_01]: You said it here.
01:22:21.263 --> 01:22:23.005
[SPEAKER_01]: I also said it on the Viking podcast.
01:22:23.325 --> 01:22:29.010
[SPEAKER_01]: OK. And then you have a rematch ever been nor of my world and Mercedes for the title.
01:22:29.530 --> 01:22:30.651
[SPEAKER_01]: But Mercedes defending.
01:22:31.212 --> 01:22:31.952
[SPEAKER_01]: When I said that,
01:22:32.993 --> 01:22:40.217
[SPEAKER_01]: someone who works in the industry DM me and told me that it was the stupidest idea they've ever heard.
01:22:40.318 --> 01:22:41.558
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, you mentioned that too.
01:22:41.898 --> 01:22:56.247
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because of the fact that you would basically just be telling the fans that the Owen Hart tournament is useless because you can you go through a whole tournament to get a tile shot and then the person that lost in the finals just wins a title in the next show.
01:22:57.828 --> 01:23:21.960
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, here's the, here's the struggle that AEW fans would have, because if my world won this, what they would be doing is they would be doing the schmaltsy, no fence thing about, well, she did this for her dead brother, she was here, whatever and everybody would politely applaud because they don't want to seem insensitive.
01:23:23.387 --> 01:23:27.908
[SPEAKER_00]: But at some point, they turn on it because they don't think she's the best female wrestler in the company.
01:23:28.868 --> 01:23:33.569
[SPEAKER_01]: Right, and conversely, you could have them do a match where Mercedes gives her a ton.
01:23:33.989 --> 01:23:36.030
[SPEAKER_01]: They have a bunch of great nearfalls.
01:23:36.350 --> 01:23:37.810
[SPEAKER_01]: The crowd is super into it.
01:23:37.910 --> 01:23:41.071
[SPEAKER_01]: They want her to win Mercedes at the very end.
01:23:41.371 --> 01:23:42.711
[SPEAKER_01]: Finally pulls out the win.
01:23:43.331 --> 01:23:45.672
[SPEAKER_01]: And at the end of the match, she gives her respect.
01:23:45.812 --> 01:23:46.792
[SPEAKER_01]: She shakes her head.
01:23:46.872 --> 01:23:49.452
[SPEAKER_01]: She leaves, leaves her in the ring by herself.
01:23:49.612 --> 01:23:52.713
[SPEAKER_01]: And then you can have that moment where the crowd gives her a setting ovation.
01:23:53.133 --> 01:23:53.873
[SPEAKER_01]: Cheers for her.
01:23:53.913 --> 01:23:58.935
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you lost, but it's, you know, it's the Ben law moment from the Royal Rumble, you know, that has been replicated a few times.
01:23:59.835 --> 01:24:00.716
[SPEAKER_01]: And you can do that.
01:24:01.016 --> 01:24:03.497
[SPEAKER_01]: And then you won't have the backlash that you talked about.
01:24:03.797 --> 01:24:06.238
[SPEAKER_01]: You still get the feel good thing, but you don't have the backlash.
01:24:06.718 --> 01:24:07.378
[SPEAKER_00]: You could.
01:24:08.138 --> 01:24:08.318
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
01:24:08.578 --> 01:24:10.059
[SPEAKER_00]: And I love that idea, Paul.
01:24:10.159 --> 01:24:13.520
[SPEAKER_00]: I would tell you the butt in a second.
01:24:13.540 --> 01:24:18.002
[SPEAKER_00]: Like you could, okay, my, uh, takes 90% of the match.
01:24:20.650 --> 01:24:29.736
[SPEAKER_01]: No, in this case, it would be Mercedes taking 90% of the mask, but my a fighting back fighting back fighting back, and then get this one great near fall where I could do that too.
01:24:29.996 --> 01:24:44.625
[SPEAKER_00]: No, I could see that, and then you do that, and then if you had a competent wrestling booker who could take that and not get her out of the spotlight and continue to build on that, maybe you get the crowd.
01:24:45.588 --> 01:24:47.752
[SPEAKER_00]: Dying for Maya to win the title finally.
01:24:48.293 --> 01:24:52.061
[SPEAKER_00]: The problem is you've done that now, multiple times in this company.
01:24:52.983 --> 01:24:55.127
[SPEAKER_00]: You've even done it in the women's division with Willow.
01:24:58.052 --> 01:24:59.372
[SPEAKER_00]: You can't do this every time.
01:25:00.272 --> 01:25:01.693
[SPEAKER_00]: It has to go away for a while.
01:25:01.893 --> 01:25:09.794
[SPEAKER_00]: And there's too much of the ring of honor handshake after the match crap that happens in this company too.
01:25:10.474 --> 01:25:14.375
[SPEAKER_00]: Where it's like, okay, great, like, ooh, we had a great match.
01:25:14.395 --> 01:25:19.576
[SPEAKER_00]: We got four and three quarter stars from all the people who have spreadsheets and notebooks.
01:25:19.996 --> 01:25:24.557
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's have them shake hands so that the fans, the fans go home happy.
01:25:28.035 --> 01:25:31.637
[SPEAKER_00]: We can't do it to build a new champion because we've done it so much.
01:25:32.537 --> 01:25:36.158
[SPEAKER_00]: It's almost like a self celebratory thing that they can't help them.
01:25:36.259 --> 01:25:37.499
[SPEAKER_00]: And they do this in WWE too.
01:25:37.519 --> 01:25:39.080
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not just accusing AEW this.
01:25:39.300 --> 01:25:40.961
[SPEAKER_00]: This happens in wrestling now.
01:25:41.601 --> 01:25:45.182
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's tiresome where you have to do it every card.
01:25:46.103 --> 01:25:48.544
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, let's put it away for three years.
01:25:48.624 --> 01:25:52.305
[SPEAKER_01]: And then you wouldn't want to necessarily do this, but you would still have Mercedes win.
01:25:52.866 --> 01:25:54.606
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a great idea, Paul.
01:25:54.766 --> 01:25:55.847
[SPEAKER_00]: I just can't.
01:25:56.528 --> 01:26:00.231
[SPEAKER_00]: get around it actually working into because they didn't watch.
01:26:00.491 --> 01:26:00.691
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
01:26:00.811 --> 01:26:01.652
[SPEAKER_00]: Like we just did it.
01:26:01.712 --> 01:26:05.595
[SPEAKER_00]: We just did in Mexico with the with the mask versus mask match.
01:26:05.735 --> 01:26:12.340
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we kind of did it last week because because actually on you didn't see it, but a theme actually did that after the match.
01:26:12.401 --> 01:26:12.961
[SPEAKER_01]: He hugged her.
01:26:13.001 --> 01:26:13.301
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
01:26:13.581 --> 01:26:13.822
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
01:26:13.902 --> 01:26:15.103
[SPEAKER_01]: And then then it turned on her.
01:26:15.243 --> 01:26:15.423
[SPEAKER_01]: But.
01:26:15.583 --> 01:26:18.163
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but we've also been doing with Andrade this whole time.
01:26:18.303 --> 01:26:18.564
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
01:26:18.724 --> 01:26:19.024
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
01:26:19.864 --> 01:26:28.325
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, I think, I think you just, you know what, it's just a lay up to have Mercedes win and chance for tells she's the biggest star you have going for the title on the biggest show of the year.
01:26:28.365 --> 01:26:29.665
[SPEAKER_01]: It just makes all the sense in the world.
01:26:30.206 --> 01:26:40.067
[SPEAKER_01]: I was having arguments in the discord because I mean, you may recall like after last years all in when Mercedes lost a Tony storm and then she started collecting all these belts.
01:26:40.767 --> 01:26:43.948
[SPEAKER_01]: I said, wow, I think what's going to happen is you keep these two apart.
01:26:45.018 --> 01:26:50.859
[SPEAKER_01]: Don't have them ever wrestle again, and I remember Dave at the time saying, oh, yeah, they should have a series and they should do like three matches by the end of the year.
01:26:50.879 --> 01:26:57.100
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, they do not wrestle again, until next year's all in and they haven't rematch and Mercedes wins a title.
01:26:57.580 --> 01:26:59.401
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, and, and that's what that's what you do.
01:27:00.121 --> 01:27:12.023
[SPEAKER_01]: And then then Tony got hurt and then we all thought, oh, Mercedes is going to win the tournament and go on to challenge for the title because, you know, she lost all the other belts, but she's going to win the AW title.
01:27:12.063 --> 01:27:12.883
[SPEAKER_01]: That makes up for everything.
01:27:13.835 --> 01:27:16.277
[SPEAKER_01]: Then they announced the tournament, she's not in it.
01:27:17.017 --> 01:27:18.338
[SPEAKER_01]: You and I both did our predictions.
01:27:19.279 --> 01:27:21.160
[SPEAKER_01]: Mercedes is going to be in this tournament, and she's going to win it.
01:27:21.800 --> 01:27:22.020
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
01:27:22.581 --> 01:27:25.883
[SPEAKER_01]: Then I reminded people that I predicted that and you as well.
01:27:26.303 --> 01:27:27.744
[SPEAKER_01]: And I was told, oh no, no, no, no.
01:27:27.804 --> 01:27:29.565
[SPEAKER_01]: Mercedes was never going to be in this tournament.
01:27:30.006 --> 01:27:32.227
[SPEAKER_01]: The only reason she's in the tournament is because Willow got hurt.
01:27:32.347 --> 01:27:36.330
[SPEAKER_01]: She was never going to take the place of serer or percephony.
01:27:37.373 --> 01:27:37.893
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what?
01:27:37.913 --> 01:27:39.173
[SPEAKER_01]: I've worked on that.
01:27:39.374 --> 01:27:55.418
[SPEAKER_01]: I think they got worked because I'm telling you I think like I'm saying I don't think Tony con okay What I'm saying is Tony con book this tournament knowing that two of the people may not be able to be in it and if Either those two are not available.
01:27:55.618 --> 01:28:02.640
[SPEAKER_01]: I have Mercedes in my back pocket and If they are available, I'll do the tournament and then I'll just have her win the title on the next show
01:28:04.035 --> 01:28:07.860
[SPEAKER_01]: But because he needed her, he put her in the tournament and she won.
01:28:08.641 --> 01:28:11.364
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't believe for one second, I don't care what anybody says.
01:28:12.025 --> 01:28:20.797
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't believe for one second that Mercedes was not going to be in the the women's main event of all in ever at any point if she was as long as she wasn't hurt.
01:28:21.935 --> 01:28:22.696
[SPEAKER_01]: I just don't.
01:28:23.016 --> 01:28:39.856
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and and people are trying to tell me, oh no, no, no, no, no, what I had heard what was I saw this, what the original plan was was that after after Tony storm beat Tecla for the title at all in that Mercedes was going to make her return and attack Tony.
01:28:42.254 --> 01:28:43.155
[SPEAKER_01]: That is so dumb.
01:28:43.735 --> 01:28:57.381
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sorry, like if that was their plan and maybe it was, but if that was their plan, that's a stupid plan because why wouldn't you put Mercedes on the biggest show of the year with, you know, and not, like, and not advertiser, you know what I mean?
01:28:57.401 --> 01:28:58.122
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, oh.
01:28:59.129 --> 01:29:06.372
[SPEAKER_00]: I can't help but think that somehow, I know that the story of the brawling birds getting the tag titles and Wembley is out there.
01:29:06.392 --> 01:29:08.212
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's a nice story.
01:29:08.853 --> 01:29:10.273
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and I could see that happening.
01:29:10.393 --> 01:29:16.095
[SPEAKER_00]: But boy, I know that Tony, we know that Tony reads and listens to the internet.
01:29:16.736 --> 01:29:19.897
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm pretty sure that that rant from the power bombshell.
01:29:19.977 --> 01:29:22.278
[SPEAKER_00]: Somebody has heard that or made him aware of it.
01:29:22.658 --> 01:29:27.040
[SPEAKER_00]: Cause Sam lives rent free in Tony Khan's head.
01:29:28.518 --> 01:29:32.093
[SPEAKER_01]: So what maybe Windsor beats teckler for the belt next month in Montreal?
01:29:33.091 --> 01:29:38.553
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's herniously or somebody or Mercedes goes, I don't want to wait to Wembley.
01:29:38.593 --> 01:29:41.154
[SPEAKER_00]: I want the title match in Montreal.
01:29:41.634 --> 01:29:47.336
[SPEAKER_00]: She takes the title and then Jamie challenges Mercedes for all in.
01:29:48.717 --> 01:29:55.560
[SPEAKER_00]: There is still a way into this title picture.
01:29:55.640 --> 01:29:56.320
[SPEAKER_01]: I hope so.
01:29:56.560 --> 01:29:57.500
[SPEAKER_01]: I really hope so.
01:29:59.401 --> 01:30:01.442
[SPEAKER_00]: But I don't think you do a two month
01:30:02.788 --> 01:30:04.229
[SPEAKER_00]: kind of rain by Mercedes.
01:30:04.269 --> 01:30:05.650
[SPEAKER_00]: I know she'd be okay with it.
01:30:06.271 --> 01:30:06.511
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
01:30:07.591 --> 01:30:07.732
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
01:30:08.012 --> 01:30:12.435
[SPEAKER_01]: I, you know, I'm not even saying the person that said that, like, I'm sure that they believe it.
01:30:12.755 --> 01:30:13.836
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's possible.
01:30:13.856 --> 01:30:14.857
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's possible.
01:30:14.917 --> 01:30:15.897
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe that was the plan.
01:30:16.358 --> 01:30:20.781
[SPEAKER_00]: But if that was the first draft round of something, that was the first.
01:30:20.801 --> 01:30:22.002
[SPEAKER_01]: It was a stupid plan.
01:30:22.402 --> 01:30:23.043
[SPEAKER_01]: I agree.
01:30:23.203 --> 01:30:23.383
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
01:30:23.523 --> 01:30:26.205
[SPEAKER_01]: In less of Mercedes wasn't going to be available till all in.
01:30:26.245 --> 01:30:28.466
[SPEAKER_01]: If that, I mean, if that's the case, I mean, okay, that's fine.
01:30:28.867 --> 01:30:30.288
[SPEAKER_01]: But she clearly was available.
01:30:30.848 --> 01:30:32.570
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, you know, because she's here now.
01:30:33.230 --> 01:30:33.731
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah.
01:30:33.891 --> 01:30:38.955
[SPEAKER_00]: One of those eight people would people be dying for to see when the title at Wembley.
01:30:39.235 --> 01:30:41.817
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, maybe more than Alex or Willow, maybe.
01:30:42.438 --> 01:30:48.042
[SPEAKER_01]: And even at the beginning of the tournament, not Alex, but by the by the time we got to her match, people were behind Willow.
01:30:48.122 --> 01:30:52.045
[SPEAKER_00]: Alex, it's obvious that Willow should have probably won this one this tournament.
01:30:52.065 --> 01:30:52.466
[SPEAKER_00]: Turn it.
01:30:52.646 --> 01:30:53.787
[SPEAKER_01]: If it was the original eight.
01:30:53.867 --> 01:30:55.128
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, if it was the original eight.
01:30:55.548 --> 01:31:02.315
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and it was Alex and Willow in the first round, so I mean, basically whoever was going to win that match was going to win the tournament probably.
01:31:02.815 --> 01:31:03.155
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
01:31:03.175 --> 01:31:08.601
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, let's go with the other possibilities at Willow returns in Montreal wins the title and it's Willow and Mercedes.
01:31:09.764 --> 01:31:24.269
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, I love that, you know, yeah, but either one of these necessitates a title switch and Montreal and I don't think Techlow is going to be the women's champion going in either, but you know what I hope I'm wrong because I like Techlow a lot.
01:31:24.289 --> 01:31:25.529
[SPEAKER_01]: I think she deserves it.
01:31:25.729 --> 01:31:25.909
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
01:31:26.009 --> 01:31:28.310
[SPEAKER_00]: I think she deserves it for the work she's done, don't give me wrong.
01:31:28.370 --> 01:31:31.671
[SPEAKER_00]: I do, but I just don't see them pivoting Mercedes into baby face.
01:31:32.531 --> 01:31:33.371
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, they don't need to.
01:31:34.712 --> 01:31:36.993
[SPEAKER_01]: You can just have Mercedes be Mercedes and yeah.
01:31:38.589 --> 01:31:42.116
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, Kenny Omega and Zach's favorite junior singles match.
01:31:42.276 --> 01:31:49.269
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, technically there's no steps, but Kenny is basically said like this is step one on his road to the world title.
01:31:49.329 --> 01:31:50.972
[SPEAKER_01]: So he kind of has to win.
01:31:52.182 --> 01:31:57.726
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they have to pay off the pulling back out and let everybody see him get a, you do the face.
01:31:58.226 --> 01:31:58.466
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
01:31:59.467 --> 01:32:01.568
[SPEAKER_01]: And then everyone will forget about him like they did last year.
01:32:02.489 --> 01:32:08.053
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, will Osprey and Swer Strickland in the men's own heart cup final.
01:32:08.673 --> 01:32:17.739
[SPEAKER_01]: I will say like, I like a lot of the build that they've done with Will and Swer, but I will also say that none of it has made me think for one second that Swer was winning this and I don't
01:32:22.202 --> 01:32:27.365
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and then team brisco against team don call us again.
01:32:27.405 --> 01:32:28.186
[SPEAKER_01]: I couldn't care less.
01:32:28.346 --> 01:32:45.037
[SPEAKER_01]: I will say thank God for my AEW because I don't have to pay for this show because I tell you right now there's no way I'm paying $15 for this show if I don't have my AEW like this show is not in my opinion worth me paying for and that's almost been the case for almost every forbidden door since the first one.
01:32:45.737 --> 01:33:13.517
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and yeah, so it's it's team brisco and team mgf if brisco's team wins he gets a title shot if mgf team wins Mgf team wins, um, either way Kevin nights get a title shot so out of all the guys in that team Kevin night is the one getting a title shot Either way, they don't even have to win, which I mean That's they should have had to win to get them to get the title shot, but exactly and everybody else on the team should have asked for title shot Yeah, or whoever gets the pin to get the win
01:33:14.217 --> 01:33:19.419
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going off the books here because everything tells you the Mark Brisco team should win this.
01:33:20.060 --> 01:33:20.260
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
01:33:21.940 --> 01:33:23.421
[SPEAKER_00]: I think on Drawdy gets the pin.
01:33:24.562 --> 01:33:24.862
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
01:33:25.442 --> 01:33:33.045
[SPEAKER_00]: And then that that facilitates him, but but but somehow he breaks off from the family after the match or something.
01:33:33.846 --> 01:33:36.627
[SPEAKER_01]: And then he ends up getting the shot that we all thought Brisco was getting.
01:33:37.832 --> 01:33:42.836
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, or he tries to take Kevin Knight's title shot or something.
01:33:43.217 --> 01:33:47.841
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, but somehow or it's one of two things.
01:33:48.021 --> 01:33:59.210
[SPEAKER_00]: It's either on trotty gets the pin somehow or gets the win or on trotty knocks out max so that Mark gets the pin that is what I was just going to say that's my prediction.
01:33:59.791 --> 01:34:04.515
[SPEAKER_01]: He knocks out max and leaves and walks out on the match.
01:34:05.195 --> 01:34:09.638
[SPEAKER_01]: and then and then it's five on four and the baby faces get the advantage in with.
01:34:10.239 --> 01:34:21.006
[SPEAKER_00]: I just think it's one of those things where Mark Briscoe can lose his title shot and then we'll want it later when he can go back and build himself back up because he's at this point he's setting himself up for a title shot.
01:34:21.026 --> 01:34:21.847
[SPEAKER_01]: You know he's not going to win.
01:34:22.367 --> 01:34:22.707
[SPEAKER_00]: Correct.
01:34:23.007 --> 01:34:26.310
[SPEAKER_00]: There's absolutely no mystery in him going after his title if he wins.
01:34:27.759 --> 01:34:28.500
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I will, I like that.
01:34:28.520 --> 01:34:28.720
[SPEAKER_01]: I will.
01:34:28.740 --> 01:34:31.263
[SPEAKER_01]: You can make that a mean event of something like a beach, but well, you can make that like a Wednesday.
01:34:31.283 --> 01:34:31.943
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that's nice night to think.
01:34:31.963 --> 01:34:33.145
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, yeah, because beach blasts is in two weeks.
01:34:33.165 --> 01:34:33.625
[SPEAKER_00]: So it makes sense.
01:34:33.645 --> 01:34:45.277
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
01:34:45.845 --> 01:35:06.978
[SPEAKER_01]: somewhere in Florida clear water I want to say and it's actually on a beach they've got an arena set up on each it looks really cool i think pictures of it it's uh kind of like all right i'm changing my mind then yeah briskos team wins this and then briskos gets a throw away title match on a wins day okay all right and then we we start to build to Kenny and Montreal mm-hmm where he's probably going to win the belt
01:35:09.078 --> 01:35:18.302
[SPEAKER_01]: And maybe Dave and yeah, and I think I think also I will say and I said I mentioned this on the take down as well, but I know there's some people that don't listen to that one to listen to this one.
01:35:19.362 --> 01:35:28.846
[SPEAKER_01]: I actually in hindsight, I think the Derby title win was was even more brilliant than it ended up being because now we've got.
01:35:29.784 --> 01:35:33.066
[SPEAKER_01]: the belief in the fans' minds that M.J.F.
01:35:33.146 --> 01:35:34.987
[SPEAKER_01]: could easily drop this title to anybody.
01:35:35.868 --> 01:35:46.494
[SPEAKER_01]: And the fact that brisk goes winning, we know that it's a foreground conclusion, but the vast majority of people watching don't think about wrestling like we do, and they may believe that match starts.
01:35:46.934 --> 01:35:50.717
[SPEAKER_01]: briskgo hits his froggy bow, hits his J-driller,
01:35:51.417 --> 01:35:55.318
[SPEAKER_01]: They might think they're getting a pin, and it might be like the best false finish ever.
01:35:55.998 --> 01:35:59.459
[SPEAKER_01]: And people will believe that Mark Russel can win, even though we know he can't.
01:36:00.039 --> 01:36:02.680
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's because Darby beat him in three minutes.
01:36:04.301 --> 01:36:06.601
[SPEAKER_01]: And I thought, I think that's great booking in hindsight.
01:36:07.081 --> 01:36:09.322
[SPEAKER_01]: That now you can go back to this anytime you want.
01:36:09.482 --> 01:36:13.243
[SPEAKER_01]: And you can get a great false finish and get the fans believing in somebody.
01:36:13.563 --> 01:36:15.684
[SPEAKER_01]: Until you do it too many times and it doesn't work anymore.
01:36:15.724 --> 01:36:19.585
[SPEAKER_00]: But Well, I think also the genius is you've made Darby
01:36:20.365 --> 01:36:34.001
[SPEAKER_00]: a world title for it because you know he's just going to be suicidal when he's going after you and at any time if somebody's slipping, Darby is going to run into him with his full force of his body and take that title away from him.
01:36:34.202 --> 01:36:35.283
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so there's that as well.
01:36:35.423 --> 01:36:38.246
[SPEAKER_01]: So you've you've made Garby, but you've also made it
01:36:38.947 --> 01:36:50.733
[SPEAKER_01]: not every match that you think because I think like Kate a lot of the insiders knew that Darby was going to win the title on that night, but I'm sure most of the fans watching thought on this is just another TV match.
01:36:51.033 --> 01:36:53.855
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just going to win, move on to whatever the next match is going to be.
01:36:54.541 --> 01:36:57.563
[SPEAKER_01]: And then Darby one and you're like, oh, holy shit.
01:36:57.683 --> 01:36:58.044
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
01:36:58.084 --> 01:37:00.486
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, all the we title can change hands on TV.
01:37:01.006 --> 01:37:02.547
[SPEAKER_01]: Not every match goes 25 minutes.
01:37:03.048 --> 01:37:04.669
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, it accomplished a lot.
01:37:05.029 --> 01:37:07.111
[SPEAKER_01]: So I will give Tony credit for that.
01:37:07.991 --> 01:37:14.677
[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, so that's that that's the baby with Sunday night, the we're going to have a post game show on this channel.
01:37:14.917 --> 01:37:18.700
[SPEAKER_01]: I at this point, it's scheduled to be Garrett and Jeremy.
01:37:19.240 --> 01:37:22.524
[SPEAKER_01]: who are going to be at the show covering it and they're also going to the press conference.
01:37:22.825 --> 01:37:24.207
[SPEAKER_01]: So this may be a very late show.
01:37:26.109 --> 01:37:28.913
[SPEAKER_01]: I am planning to try to watch the show on Sunday night.
01:37:28.993 --> 01:37:34.940
[SPEAKER_01]: So if I get watched in time and I can join them, I will not promising that, but there's a possibility.
01:37:35.981 --> 01:37:43.789
[SPEAKER_01]: And I also did volunteer that if for some reason they can't do the show, he could tap us in, but I Do you care it's pretty sure they'll be able to do the show.
01:37:44.130 --> 01:37:44.770
[SPEAKER_01]: So, okay.
01:37:44.790 --> 01:37:46.272
[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, let's Tony's experiment.
01:37:46.893 --> 01:37:50.516
[SPEAKER_01]: And let's Tony decides to have a three hour press conference or something because he's got to work that next day.
01:37:51.137 --> 01:37:53.099
[SPEAKER_01]: So Jeremy took the day off.
01:37:53.159 --> 01:37:56.623
[SPEAKER_01]: So I think he's doing the show no matter what, but yeah, so
01:37:57.598 --> 01:37:58.498
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyways, that's that.
01:37:59.218 --> 01:38:00.519
[SPEAKER_01]: And again, yeah, go Mexico.
01:38:00.539 --> 01:38:02.279
[SPEAKER_01]: I think they want today to got nine points.
01:38:02.539 --> 01:38:09.481
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not sure who finished second in that group, but is either Saudi Arabia or South Korea, but that's I think you can't have this facing next.
01:38:09.641 --> 01:38:12.722
[SPEAKER_01]: So, and then U.S. tomorrow?
01:38:14.322 --> 01:38:15.162
[SPEAKER_00]: I, yes.
01:38:15.622 --> 01:38:16.583
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, awesome.
01:38:16.603 --> 01:38:17.523
[SPEAKER_01]: Go, go American.
01:38:18.395 --> 01:38:21.978
[SPEAKER_00]: I ran into some Turkish fans yesterday at a water park and we all went drinking.
01:38:22.078 --> 01:38:22.918
[SPEAKER_00]: It was a lot of fun.
01:38:23.059 --> 01:38:23.699
[SPEAKER_00]: Cool.
01:38:24.780 --> 01:38:29.103
[SPEAKER_01]: And Scottish fans took over Boston, which was a lot of fun watching the baseball games in Boston.
01:38:30.651 --> 01:38:54.093
[SPEAKER_00]: uh... she thim ropes there's also a w w event on saturday night at shampions will be going over that i'll be asking the philosophical question the hell are they doing with baili and then uh... and uh... and uh... yeah we'll see what else rob ones talk about if he wants to talk about forbidden door will talk about forbidden doors well that should drop hopefully uh... friday or yeah friday morning in your uh... pocketers
01:38:54.935 --> 01:38:56.357
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, apologize for that.
01:38:56.397 --> 01:38:59.862
[SPEAKER_01]: Hopefully didn't come on the mic for but that's okay.
01:39:00.103 --> 01:39:00.463
[SPEAKER_01]: Sorry.
01:39:00.844 --> 01:39:01.985
[SPEAKER_01]: I did not mean to do that.
01:39:03.447 --> 01:39:04.529
[SPEAKER_01]: It's that's late.
01:39:04.849 --> 01:39:05.230
[SPEAKER_00]: It's 115 year.
01:39:06.367 --> 01:39:11.172
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, and I have the take down with Garrett Gonzalez on Tuesday.
01:39:11.252 --> 01:39:18.801
[SPEAKER_01]: So we'll go over all these big shows from the weekend on on the mid 90s turn 9 Pacific or actually I think we're taping next week.
01:39:18.821 --> 01:39:23.205
[SPEAKER_01]: So it'll drop on Wednesday morning on your podcast feed and on the YouTube.
01:39:23.225 --> 01:39:24.547
[SPEAKER_01]: It'll swap is a premier.
01:39:25.167 --> 01:39:30.331
[SPEAKER_01]: And then Jeff and I'll be back next Wednesday, and there's something else that maybe I'll talk about next week.
01:39:30.431 --> 01:39:34.874
[SPEAKER_01]: That's common soon and uh, I'll uh, I'll fill Jeff in once we're off.
01:39:34.914 --> 01:39:42.799
[SPEAKER_01]: But anyways, uh, for Jeff Hawkins, I've been Paul Fontaine and this has been the dynamite show.







