May 6, 2026
AEW Dynamite Review: Darby Allin vs Kevin Knight & Ted Turner Legacy |


Paul Fontaine and Jeff Hawkins discuss the life and legacy of Ted Turner before recapping AEW Dynamite from Charleston, featuring Darby Allin’s title defense against Kevin Knight and Kazuchika Okada’s next move. Follow the fallout from Jon Moxley vs. Juice Robinson and Orange Cassidy’s Double Jeopardy win.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Dino-ma!
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hey everybody, it's Dino-ma, I show Paul Fontaine, Jeff Hawkins here on the fight game media, YouTube channel.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Almost exactly at the time we're supposed to start.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Tony ends his show on time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We start our show on time, and I'm talking about Dino-ma.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I understand collision that's going on right now, and
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[SPEAKER_00]: You people might be watching it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If there's less people in the chat than usual, that's, that's, you know, that's fine.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Gray brings up the same thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You kind of said to me, the first bits of collision felt more important than all dynamite outside of the Ted Memorial.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I heard about what happened and I degree with that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I would just say that they've burned me one too many times with this collision that it follows dynamite that I stop caring.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's on the PBR.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll watch it at some point.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But Jeff, oh, and also hi to everyone on the, if I can meet you at free audio feed on Thursday morning.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Big news today, we lot of us woke up to find out or hurt shortly after we woke up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That Ted Turner passed away at the age of 87.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So long life for Ted, although I think the last the last 10 years he had dementia, so that you know, that sucks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But
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[SPEAKER_00]: He, if you don't know, I mean, the show aired on TBS tonight, which stands for the Turner broadcasting system collision airs on TNT, which is Turner network television.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He also started CNN.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he basically started cable television and we'll get into wrestling, but but it was more than just wrestling.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, he's amazing and the things that he did are amazing now is an ego made heck it did a lot of gum things too, but I mean, Turner classic movies, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, TCM because he was because he's a film preservation.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He didn't like what that was I mean, he tried to invent his own Olympics in the goodwill games.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, I remember.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I forgot about that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and didn't he allow drugs in those two or my memory.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't remember that, but you know, but he, I mean, he, he won America's cup.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, as a as a yonder.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he, um, he bad Jane Fonda.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, inner prime kind of not even per L. Come on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She was past her primary.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, come on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She's pretty hot in the 80s.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I won't.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think she, they married in the 90s, but anyway, oh, but they were dating in the 80s.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He owned the, he owned the Braves, he owned the
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, he on the Braves for a long, long time, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, yes, 130 years.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I watched a baseball game today.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I watched it from first pitch to last pitch.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They never mentioned him once.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was shocked actually.
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[SPEAKER_00]: People are criticizing WWE for not, you know, acknowledging it on Twitter or anything.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I mean, I was surprised that they didn't acknowledge it on the baseball game I watched.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He pissed off both sides of the political aisle because like in the 80s, he was right-wing and he tried to buy CBS and CBS, comply.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, no, he's going to wreck our news division blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so it certainly goes, all right, I'm just going to be hard left now and Betty started doing like all the captain's
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[SPEAKER_02]: planet stuff.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, I didn't have worked out well because Jane is obviously just a garlic charlatan of a man at times managed the braves for one game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Did you know that?
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I wouldn't have come up with that, but now that you mentioned it, I do remember hearing that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, and there's a little bit of a personal connection with me because he's a, he's a, he's a big historical preservationist kind of person to he was big in a civil war history.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He was the money behind Gettysburg and getting that to be a feature film, but
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[SPEAKER_02]: Within within the Turner family and I kind of remember when TNT started it was you'd have NBA games on there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Occasionally when the NBA was, you know, wasn't the big product it was now and like Mark's brothers movies right before that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But, um,
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[SPEAKER_02]: he also liked making original historical movies and stuff like that so he like back in the 90s like the mid early to mid 90s he'd do things like buffalo soldiers about that regimented uh he did a pretty good biopic about Teddy Roosevelt did one about the uh Andersonville trial and and all of that was because of all the money he dumped into Gettysburg.
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[SPEAKER_02]: and getting that as a feature film on the big screen.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That was his big thing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And back in the mid 90s when I first came out to LA and I had unreal representation.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I was, you know, cock on the walk.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I was getting meetings everywhere.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I wasn't really selling much, but you know, I was getting nibbles here and there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I had a passion project at concerned Civil War history about a better border.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Porter Ruffie and by name of William Quantrell.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Now for historical purposes, LaPia won't know who that is, but in terms of movies, if you want to place that, like the Outlawed Josie Whales, those guys were part of Quantrell's Raiders under Bloody Bill Anderson.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He was a con man who was a teacher, who kind of,
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[SPEAKER_02]: convinced a bunch of like near duels that he was a colonel in the confederate army and he's most famous for burning down the city of Lawrence, Kansas.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Now in his gang
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[SPEAKER_02]: were a bunch of famous people would go on to be famous in the old West later that the the the James brothers.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Her head.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, all the guys, all the guys in the long writers, if you ever saw that movie, those groups of brothers right there, the younger gang, the Dalton gang, the James brothers, they all rode with Quantrill.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Long writers, Scott and Bill Irwin.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, well, that too.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was saying, I'm assuming that's a film movie.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's gone, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, yes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And also, you know, a black part and, uh, and Ron Bass, we're also called the long writers at one time as a team.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, this all based on that movie.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But I, I had this project and started writing it in college and, uh, Turner.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I sent an outline to them through my agent because and my big thing was I was going to make it like the wild bunch, you know, that violent because it was by that was my favorite movie at the time and I was in luck when you're in your 20s you think you're edgy is doing this hyper violent civil war film or whatever and it's like, oh man and I got a note back that was like, you know what they love it and Ted loved it and I was like, oh, because he approved these they are like,
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I was I'm gonna go by a beamer.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I stop 20 minutes later get a phone call.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we can't do the project because they were talking like feature they're like thinking you know because like John Millius had done like a rewrite of Buffalo soldiers.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think or something like that and or uh, no of the rough writers of the Teddy Roosevelt film.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He was on there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, man.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We'd like to make, you guys, you want to bring something else to the big screen.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Finally, it's like cool.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I have a chance here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I got a nibble.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Universal has a project also about quantrill.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And Angli is is directing it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I would.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I would.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The joy luck club guy is directing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: My type of violent fantasy, what, yeah, it's, if you remember the movie right with the devil.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's cool and yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's not even choir, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, tell me what, goire, see, orange, yeah, whoo, yeah, I watch that movie just so I could, I could see
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's like it's like five minutes of gone with the wind stretched out over three hours, but the least interesting five minutes of gone with the wind.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, it's so hyper, like these guys are using $20 words from the 19th century and there's a bunch of illiterate.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Missouri kids and you're just and I've watched this and I cried at the movie, but it's because I hated it so much Yeah, and also because the Jeffrey Wright character.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I had a character like that in my movie Oh, yeah, I forgot Jeffrey Wright was in that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, because they used to do a scam with a scape slag, so I'm just like I was so close to having my dream project made and this is why we'll never like angley movies ever again Oh, I just was like damn it
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[SPEAKER_02]: But, uh, yeah, no, but like he did so much for historical preservation of both movies and culture.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Now, sure, look, he had his downsides on that because he highly bought into the the the myth of the anti-bellum South being, you know, oh, this southern gentleman, all, you know, blah, blah, that's why he liked going with the wind so much.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now you're talking about
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[SPEAKER_02]: Ted has a cameo in a very prominent cameo and get his brew playing a confederate general now I wouldn't say he's racist I just think he was ignorant I'd like there's this story I heard today like Robbie Robertson the guy from the band yeah produced produced this for tech for Turner because Turner would buy these types of things this documentary on Native Americans
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so they're at the Universal Ballroom for the up front for TBS and a bunch of Native American dancers come out and do this thing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Ted gets something else.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Man, that was just great.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Can't wait for you all to watch this.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I want to thank great the dancers.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I have to say that, because otherwise I'd get scout and run your Robertson.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is like 1993 or more.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Probably Robertson.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, but that was him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He was brash.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He was confident.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He'd run at the mouth at times.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, he's he's got like the literally the most fuck you money of anybody that probably was living at that time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, so I don't have any personal Ted Turner stories, but I mean, I certainly, you know, obviously my whole life, like, he's been, he's been around.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, yeah, and, and important, like, so we didn't have cable television up here for the longest time, and when we finally did, I mean, the first stations we got from America were TBS, yeah, and CNN.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And, and I mean, and, oh, go ahead, I was going to talk about the, the history of the superstation is that it was originally like a very powerful, like a UHF channel is what right on the antenna, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, yeah, and then he came up with the idea to basically make the station available to you know as much of the country as possible and people five years next.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to give them any Griffith reruns, graves baseball and pro wrestling seven or 605 Eastern and you know and that's I mean it was famous and you know why you did that right this the old guy because you you would you would get people that would watch the show before.
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[SPEAKER_00]: over the time and then they would not switch channels to watch something on another station.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Not just that, but TV guide back in the day was the only way to do it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And that way he got his own the big he got a line by himself right in the TV guide listing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So more people would watch it because you got seven o'clock and it would say all these different things and then seven o'clock.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, whatever it was airing on TBS and there's the dirty 30.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and then 805 eight o'clock eight o'clock five.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like and then here's a dirty secret that everybody knows.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think is that Vince McMahon wanted to be Ted Turner so bad.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that to the point where he always thought he was in a feud with Ted and not with Eric fish off, wouldn't you acknowledge Eric fish off until after we hire him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: To me, it's exactly why he says in, uh, was it beneath the matter?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Beyond the mat, we make movies, because Ted Turner made movies and that, that drove him nuts because he always, he wanted to be as a mogul, a media mogul just like Ted Turner.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And when he said, oh, I want to, I want to do some wrestling and then Tony and then he's like, no, we don't do wrestling.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We do sports entertainment.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, and then, you know, like even CNN, like people, you know, if you're under the age of 40, like you've not lived in an era without cable news, but for us, like we grew up, like there was no such thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he created it out of it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And you have to understand how much broadcast networks hated CNN when it was released.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Because it is.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And also because they got really, really big ratings when desert storm happened.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that was right when we first got it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I remember I literally like, I think I took a week off work and watched desert storm.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, you know,
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[SPEAKER_02]: and that's a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot
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[SPEAKER_00]: the thing is with CNN like you know now everything's so political like you know you got ones right wing ones left wing yeah like you can't get honest news from anybody and also really the CNN sports department was kind of the precursor to what sports center because yeah yeah because they used to do like a half hour sports show it on yeah there yeah Nick Charles and Fred
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[SPEAKER_02]: I won't say Fred Welman, but I don't think that's the net or Fred, Fred, Hickman or no, that might be even for my time because that before I got it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I, but I, you know, certainly heard about it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I got cable in around 88, 89, but they started the idea of a ticker.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, like, which is everyone now, CNN started it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, so ESPN has it, anybody who has news.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, crawl where, you know, and so if you wanted the news, you switch over to CNN and, you know, whatever the big news is, you're going to hear about it within five minutes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, whether or not they're actually talking about it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So 20 after the hour headline sports always.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, with me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm like, like, somehow.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then in terms of wrestling, like, he kept that thing going.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And they talk about it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'll go, really, like, he really liked wrestling.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I mean, and he even realized the mistake he had made for Black Thursday.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: for for for selling to WWF and going, no, that we want our southern style.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We gave Bill lots of a time slot and then and then he, I think it was Bill watch, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then he was outdrying Vince on in a worse time slot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So then that's when Vince ended up selling it back at a profit.
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[SPEAKER_02]: May have financed the first WrestleMania money he made on that was crock it, crock it, crock it, but the 605 times slot, right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that financed, and that's WrestleMania.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So crock it dug his own grave in a way.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Just a crazy rich guy away too much money.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, did you, and did you know?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's when he finally sold it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And of course, Ted wasn't technically the owner anymore because he was part of WBD and you know, all the mergers and everything.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But in that merger, yeah, I only learned this like recently, um, but so you everybody knows WWE, WWF at the time bought WCW for like $3 million dollars, $2 million or something, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So did you know?
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[SPEAKER_00]: that part of the deal was any paper view money that was still owed to WCW would go to Vince and they still had about 90 days where the paper view money coming in and because that's how it worked back in the day and they got enough paper view money more than enough paper view money to cover the cost of the deal yeah yeah so they basically got WCW from free
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[SPEAKER_02]: And don't get me wrong, like in 92 93 when WWF decided that they were going to go to this Monday night raw format.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, 93.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Why?
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[SPEAKER_00]: 93.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, go live.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, it was an experiment because they had been taping the prime time wrestling and stuff like that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And it took.
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[SPEAKER_02]: falls as big as church bells to quote, drag net for WCW go we're going to their night and we're going to face them live and Ted was like, you go for it how much now to be yeah, to be fair.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I think it was Bishop's idea, but Ted had to sign off on it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Ted had to sign off on it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and Ted, well Ted went to be Eric and said, okay, what do we have to do to compete with them?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And Eric said, well, they got live TV on Monday nights.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We need, we need that too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And Ted's like, okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, here you go and they went head to head for a while and then and then nitro expanded to two hours so then that force raw to expanded two hours and and we're taking going like so WCB was starting an hour earlier and raw was ending an hour later so they weren't actually head to head for the full for it was four hours but they were only head to head for or three hours, but they're only head to head for one hour of it is that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Was that right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: That was it originally, but what Nitro did originally was they play live 8 to 10 and then they'd replay it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then they started the overruns, which still exist, you know, where, you know, they would run an extra six, seven minutes to try to get that spill over.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're you're ending at 10, oh, five.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We got to get whatever the next show is, while the replay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, so yeah, Ted Turner, you know tremendous legacy and processing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I have a Hall of Fame vote.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I vote for him every year, and he'll probably get in next year now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now that he's dead.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was the death bump.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The death bump.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he was close.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I think he was only at one point.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he was four votes away.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I, you know, I think he loved dusty roads.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I know that much.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, and flare and flare.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, who did love flare back then?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't know about sting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I ain't on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I guess sting says he loved him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So maybe he did.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That was an interesting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, part of the trip.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, I don't know because that high on sting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I wasn't expecting it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I will say that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I mean, we might get right into it because, uh,
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[SPEAKER_00]: They opened the show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I will say they were in Charleston, South Carolina, and from what I heard now, and let's say sold a ton of tickets in the last couple days.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think this was one of the smallest dynamite crowds in history is what I heard other than obviously the pandemic.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Or maybe when they ran the ECW arena, I think they did dynamite from there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, it was like, I think it was around
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[SPEAKER_00]: And at times it sounded like 500, you know, at times it, you know, the time to make a noise, but it was weird.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But they started out and Tony Shvani was in the ring.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he puts over.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He says, you know, we're here to picture.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Be to Ted Turner.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He said he was the reason pro wrestling was on national television.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like man, spinning in his great.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, and he said, and there's one man that knows this better than anyone else.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And right away, I was like, oh my god, he's good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Bring out stay here and he says, one of the faces of pro wrestling on turner broadcasting systems.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's staying and I'll come staying no music, which is interesting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought it was classy though.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I liked.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Any, you know, no hair dies in this white hair and white beard.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Fans are saying holy shit.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It would have sent Vince on a kill crazy rampage to stamp for towers.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I would have really liked.
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[SPEAKER_02]: because they owned the footage.
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[SPEAKER_02]: WWE should have just given some of the Turner 605 footage where Turner was actually on the station or on the rest of it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Could he did a couple of times, he stopped by the studios a couple of times.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, for tapings.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That would have been a nice gesture, I think.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But do you think they'll do a tribute to him on SmackDown?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think they will.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think they'll show a billionaire Ted sketch around.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that'll be part of the tribute and then they'll claim that Ted liked it
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, no, no, no, no, they'll say, oh, the progenitor of the Monday, it'll all be about the Monday night wars.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, about anything six or five.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, no, no, thank you, 73 didn't exist.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They started in 93 and they didn't do 1, there's no wrestling on the turn of broadcast networks now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The nothing is here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's got to be explicitly focused to Ted Turner thought he could compete with the WWE in the Monday night wars.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he did for a while.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, they had 83 wigs, the ultimately lost, you know, that's how it's going to be.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, so, uh, so yeah, fans of Chinese holy shit, uh, uh, Stravani says, here we are against sting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We both knew Ted Turner really well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's a big part of UNI being together for all these years, four decades.
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[SPEAKER_00]: A little time missed in there, but, you know, who's counting?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, he said, you met with him a bunch of times.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then Sting says, can you imagine having an all-in billionaire who absolutely loved for a wrestling?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, yes, Steve, I can't.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I was, and then he says, but I'm talking about billion, billion there Ted.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, and he backtracked on that one, really.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then went to big, you know, good Ted.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yes, I can't believe what he did for us.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Committed to us, devoted to us in every way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: When the top brass would have their meetings with other top brass, they'd try to cut pro wrestling, but Ted would look at all of them, and all the wrestlers, and said, keep doing what you're doing, because I got deep pockets.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought the timing of this was interesting, given some of the discussions that were going on this week about the TV time slot and everything, which I think is all bullshit anyways, but I don't think there's anything to it, I just, you know, my radar goes up sometimes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: but he said, yeah, and then he said, that's a shoot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So thank you, Ted, without you, there wouldn't be a TNT title, there wouldn't be a sting, a Darby Allen, a Tony Shabani.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You wouldn't even be here tonight, you fans.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So thanks again, Ted, big Ted, and the fans chant, thank you, Ted.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then Tony says, tonight, your protege will defend against Turner Network Television Champion, Kevin Knight.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And things says Darby Allen, I took a blowtorch in this place for three and a half years, felt great every single time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's great to be back here in South Carolina.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Great to know that Darby Allen is wrestling for the world title tonight.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Greatest tag team partner I've ever had.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm also grateful for a second billion error who wants to keep the ball rolling.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So thank you Tony Con.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then the Savani says, when you see the Turner Network television title belt that Kevin Knight has and the Turner Broadcasting Systems title that Willow Knight and Gell has, notice the side plates.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They have a thing of a, I didn't, I didn't, I didn't, I didn't, I didn't, I didn't actually say that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think I think it said it was, it has a, it has a template of studio or something.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Template of Techwood Studios on it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that was very important to Tony Khan and very important to the history of processing on TBS and TNT.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yay, billionaires, ladies.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, so now we bring you three hours of wrestling and memory of the Maverick Ted Turner.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There is, there is some bit of disconnect with the AEW fan base and billionaires, which is kind of funny, but yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, and then the other thing is, so when he said, we're bringing you three hours and then
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[SPEAKER_00]: should have said we're going to do a 10 bell salute but he didn't so the fans didn't get the cue did like shut up because we're going to do 10 bells.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think it was halfway between the first and the second one they found Tony had his lines and he says I know them and then he forgot him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's what happened.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and that's how it's fine.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They did a nice 10-bell salute and that was over.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And the fans, Janet, thank you, Ted, kind of light.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Again, a lot of the chance tonight were light because there wasn't a lot of people there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The heat is on, said, I think he says that they did get up to about 2300, so maybe not too close.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, so a lot of late ticket movement again, still like not as good as they've been doing the last few weeks, but maybe there's people
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[SPEAKER_02]: South Carolina tends to be a pretty good wrestling area, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So that's kind of weird.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was born in Charleston, so although I mean if you look at what they advertised for this show, it wasn't much.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, and this felt this felt like we're giving up the hockey from the most part.
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[SPEAKER_00]: A little bit, yeah, a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I saw somebody who's like a die hearted WFAT in the discord as just saying like, where's all this starts tonight?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I mentioned one
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, staying.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And and Darby is the world champion.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's a gap, but M.J. F. Hangman Swerve.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're all very non collision.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I guess.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I guess.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But we got John Mox and juice Robinson.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I mean, not just screams collision.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sorry.
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[SPEAKER_00]: In a continental title, eliminate or match.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We had Renee doing sideline reporting before the thing crowds chanting for moxley even though I'm pretty sure he's a heal.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He was really weird at the beginning.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Just did a catapult spot and moxley like.
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[SPEAKER_00]: he sold it as unethetically as I've ever seen a catapult spot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was very weird.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I can't even really describe it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But Matt Scott, you know, Matt was okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was cheering for Excalibur at one point because he mentioned the puzzling situation with Will Osprey and the Death Riders.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, yes, because I keep saying that said, it was, oh, you're an idiot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You don't understand it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, well, you need to pay attention.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, no.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I, you know, last week when I didn't understand what's going on and people said, oh, you had to watch that video package on collision.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I did watch the video package on collision.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was no more, you know, that didn't help.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I still don't understand why will Osprey needs help from the death writers when his own tea beat them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't understand why Marina Shafir is fixing his neck when his wife was trying to kill Marina Shafir like a month ago.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't understand why he's just willingly going to train with these, you know, lunatics.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, you know, that tried to kill his friend and his mentor Brian Danielson, you know, like I, I don't understand any of it, and why won't you go to them for help and not not the United Empire.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Paul, you don't have to go into chat rooms during shows and stuff.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You really do.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, this is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I want, I do want to ask you something, Jeff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You sent me a message on the weekend.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe his Monday.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, asking me about continuity between New Japan and AW.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I have no idea what the hell you're talking about.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You said I would by the end of this dynamite.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I thought you might, but apparently, I guess on Drottie is now part of United Empire, he always has been.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Has he okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, well, because they don't because you're the answer to your question is sometimes it isn't sometimes it isn't He's he because he's also higher because he's all you know January's forth.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, because he's also a member of the Don call us family.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm just Well, how are we going to rectify that because he's okay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So here job he's holding his time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They just did a call his family promo, which
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[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, no, because he had no shirt on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[UNKNOWN]: So
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[SPEAKER_00]: So when this thing started, part of the deal was, oh, well, this is going to play into the AW storyline with the death riders against the cows family who were tuning at the time because Andrade joined the United Empire.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So United Empire is loosely affiliated with the cows family and the death riders are loosely affiliated with the war dogs or, you know, in New
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[SPEAKER_00]: And here what I thought you were going to talk about was, do you remember last week?
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, in the the promo that they did with the death writers and will ask for.
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[SPEAKER_00]: When he walks in and John says, are you clear yet?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And will says no.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He hangs his head.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then he says, I haven't matched this weekend.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Did you pan with my boys?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then tonight, you know, skipping ahead of it, they referenced the match, they didn't say what the match was, they said something about a title, and apparently will Osprey wrestled in Japan on the weekend, even though he's not clear to wrestle in a W.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And they did a promo with him and Doc Samson.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I believe I'm a Malaysian part.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, did Doc clear him now?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't listen to the promo.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Somebody mentioned it in the chat.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So if you know whether or not he's cleared now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm gonna say my favorite little thing about this juicer Robinson, Moxley Batch before we move on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't have much else to say about it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And it has nothing to do with the Batch.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Renee gets out there and goes,
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[SPEAKER_02]: I've, you know, I spoke to Juice Robinson backstage earlier, and he was just muttering to himself.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I beat John Moxley once I can do it again.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And when Juice comes out, walking down to the ring, all he's doing is muttering to himself, I beat John Moxley once I can do it again.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I loved this little just piece of cottonuddy, it made me laugh, I loved it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: For Thorc sums it up nicely.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Mox was a heal who's a coward who tapped out the Kyle Wau Riley, benefiting babyface who loves a W and then a diabolical heal who tried to kill Will.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he doesn't know that the that the rough or that the doctor did clear will then know then somewhat.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Thanks for clearing that up, John, John, John, actually one, he, he made a pass out with a with a bulldog choke, I believe, second time the match was fine bordering on good went too long and it's fine.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, yeah, that's a, that's a, that's a match that happened.
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[SPEAKER_00]: didn't he beat no that was a song beat got beaten by uh to catch it or not to catch that but O'Connor last week that's yeah yeah yeah I know there was no reason for this I think there's no reason for any of these matches for the most part other than the moment uh no that's our enormous capacity that one that had some bill to it uh okay the women's tag you could say the O'Connor match I literally had no idea it was happening until the two guys were in the ring
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then when it was over I have no idea why it happened and if I was Brian Keith, I wouldn't be answering my phone tomorrow.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Is the feeling I wouldn't have matches over.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Although he's an RLH staple, he's been winning.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Tony doesn't cut anybody, so I'm sure he's fine.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But if he was in WWE, I would be thrown my phone away if I was booked in that match.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So next up we got that segment.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So funny story here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: My wife was in the room and she's watching this and the first two people they focus on are Daniel Garcia and we were you to and my wife says, aren't those two guys a little small to be wrestlers?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Then she sees Wheeler doing his sit-ups on Will Osprey's neck, and she's watching this intently, and she's like, you know, I've heard that that exercise is really good for the neck for strengthening the neck.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, wow, why wife is picking up on the storyline better than I am.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She doesn't even watch this show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, I mean, and that was what was going on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So Garcia of all people cuts the problem with a start.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So he said, what did he said?
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[SPEAKER_00]: We had, you had a 15 hour plane ride.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You went and you won titles with your petty little friends in Japan, but it's us against the world.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And if you want to be the best version of yourself, you got to work for it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So let's get it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then they show Wheeler doing his sit-ups on Osprey's back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then he gets up and the Osprey's feeling his neck.
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[SPEAKER_00]: John Lotzig gets in his face.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And my wife says, like, why is he screaming at him?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, he's not screaming.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's just talking very loudly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he says, have you ever heard of the concept of death ground?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And Osprey's like, no.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he's like, well, it's standing on ground and you're foolish and you can't leave, no escape, no other options.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's do or die.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's where you're at right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So if we don't get your neck right, we don't get this right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's over.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're done.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Sure, you could still have a career get paid hang out like the rest of the poses in this company, but that's not what you want is it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Honestly, no, because you're not like all these people.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're different.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a privilege to be where you're at to come all this way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, this is the last 1% that you need to get through.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're on death ground.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's going to be hard, but it's the only good option.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Nothing else exists except what's right in front of you right now every second every minute.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then Pock just comes right into the frame and pushes the camera, man and way and he says, all right, that's enough.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that was that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I will say, this is probably the best of the segments that they've done.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I still don't like this angle, but at least I didn't come away from this one confused.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And if my wife could figure out what was going on here, then I guess they did a good story telling you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's the way I looked at it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But it's none of it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It needs more development on the offspring.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What is he getting out of this?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, yeah, and why?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, that's my question.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And why would he trust this guy?
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what I don't understand.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like, you know, and people are comparing it to Rocky 3.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, okay, so I missed the part of that movie where Apollo Creed was killing all of Rocky's friends and using a gang of thugs to win all his boxing matches.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, no, there's, you know, like, there's, yeah, turning to your rival for help.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, you, I can't remember the analogy you brought up, but whatever it was, it sounded better than that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, it was point break.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And a lot of people have made the point break analogy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, it's been a while since I saw that movie.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, good.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and I like being on the winning end of people's thoughts and furious was another one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think people.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, all all fast and furious is point break with cars and, and, you know, over 10 movies, you know, if it's about ranch, it's about family, Paul, if point break, if a point break had been made in the 2000s, we'd have had 10 point break movies by the way.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We need to find a way to let the bad guys live and then join the cops and then we'll find another bad guy who will live long enough, you live long enough, you live long enough,
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[SPEAKER_00]: to either die a hero or become a villain.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She's.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So next we got the Dax Harwood versus Orange Cacity, double jeopardy match.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What's the double jeopardy match you ask?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, if Dax Harwood wins, he and Cash and Champa get a shot at the conglomerations, world-true titles, and if Orange Cacity wins, two members of the conglomeration get a shot at FTR's tagging titles.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So the most interesting part of that, of course, be Dax Cache and Chomp are getting a shot at the trio's titles.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So of course, that's not what happened.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, question, why are all these other people down at rings?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And this is the first thing I wrote down.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's a million people at Riggs side, the dogs, Chompa, Cache, Stoke, the Bucks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think the rascals were there, the conglomeration.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, they weren't.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The conglomeration were there, RPG vice.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, why were all these people there?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I guess they're all tangently involved in various feuds surrounding these guys.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but the match was fine.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was a house show match.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was really a house show match.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was they were fucking around.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Dax was doing the hand in the hand.
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[SPEAKER_00]: pants spots and then dart you know orange did it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They kept it's funny because they should they kept showing the guys at ringside and the baby faces were cheering and the heels were trying to interfere and they did a couple times.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I finally got off a shot on the
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[SPEAKER_00]: on orange at one point and then someone else, you know, stoke distracted the rough wall.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Cat, Docs tried to cheat.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then, you know, you see the box all laughing and clapping and edge.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then every time they show a Christian, you just have to scow all this face with.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like he's never was out of character.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So eventually the orange Cassie hit the stung dog millionaire, then a Superman punch, but orange was selling his arm, I think, and DAX rolled out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Then DAX put on an arm bar, orange Cassie tried to roll out, DAX used up kicks, and then orange Cassie rolled them up and got the pin.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And the pin kind of came out of nowhere, but match was fine.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then after the bell rang, everyone got the ring,
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[SPEAKER_00]: They mentioned that the clung-glomeration will get a tag team title shot didn't say which two I assume it's going to be strong and all Riley and Of course since orange one and then ended up with RPG vise in the ring by themselves They guys fans are chanting you fucked up Rocky's pleading for mercy Copeland Pope them in the eye Then he hit a spear on Trent Christian look like he was going to hit a spear on Rocky and steady just kicked him in the nuts and That was that
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[SPEAKER_02]: Ah, you know what, I just, I just want the bell-the-ring on Christian and Cope versus FDR, Christian to instant quit and that everybody just beats down Cope.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That happens.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, people are going to lose their mind.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know that match has three stipulations?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a near hoping fight.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm hoping for New York Street Fighter and I quit match.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And if Christian and Cope lose, they can never team again.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And everyone said, oh, well, that means they have to win.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, not really, you know, they don't have to team again.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I think we all think they will.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think this, we figured this is heading to a three way at all in or perhaps a four way.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Perhaps a four way with with possibly one Austin Creed and Kofi, whatever his last name, the new dawn.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I believe Blether of brought this up.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So let's talk about it now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, the the the pay cut thing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, whether or not, you know, because everybody seems kind of excited about motor city machine guns and possible the new day coming into AEW.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And well, before before I knew about the new day, I thought we had we had we said, yeah, because they were in here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The I mean, they were already in AEW and money likesome.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I have no problem with that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I just want
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[SPEAKER_02]: see the problem is Tony allows a lot of creative freedom from the guys doing the creative.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And there's no one to look at anybody and go, you know what, let's try something completely 180 with you guys when you come in.
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[SPEAKER_02]: To prevent people doing like the new day rocks chant and other things like that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's think of a gimmick for you guys that is so off the beaten path for you to that'll be a complete reinvention.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's not going to be a reinvention.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's going to be them doing the new day with different names because they don't would give me the new dawn and it's going to be awesome, Creed and Kofi.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, he, he, that's his real first name so he can use it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, so probably just be coffee like it was Cody and I expect the team will be coffee and Austin Creed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it almost like you're saying it's coffee Creed, but it's not coffee Creed.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like they did with the roads.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I want them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I want Tony to show up some money for Nina Simone's feeling good for their theme song.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a new dawn.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a new day.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know what it is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it would fit their characters, and yeah, but yeah, so I think that's probably what we're heading to.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then where does that leave a more serious machine guns?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe they go in a New Japan, and then they get to work, you know, and or add or see MLL, and then they get to come in and just do spots here and there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And let's say this, their latest stuff that was mostly just for commercial breaks for international audiences was
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[SPEAKER_02]: basically got reborn as heels coming talking about the new day.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Where were like, oh, we're like,
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[SPEAKER_02]: I want to call him Austin Creed now, but you know, but where he was wearing funeral garb right over the tag team titles.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, he realized the WWE cut.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it was it was at least four and possibly five tag teams.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That has won the tag team titles in the last year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Motor City machine guns, new day, oil mist, yeah, gazing limits, and mostly, or did they say mostly of machine guns?
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[SPEAKER_02]: These are the machine machines here and we're running.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There was one other team.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Can't remember who, but maybe it was only three.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Out of the mud was, well, I don't know if they had the NXT title.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, they didn't, but I just think of them as a team.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, they're still there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a high ride.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, the MFT Cobb and Tangaloe.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, Cobb.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And they're going to, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So technically, technically, they were the champs.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, they were, you know, freebird rules.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But, um, but yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I mean, you know, that shows and they just had WrestleMania two nights, 13 matches, two sets of world tagging titles and neither one of them were defended on that show.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So that kind of tells you, does Jeff Cobb end up in AEW?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, Jeff and I, or I mean, Garrett and I talked about that last time to take down and I think it depends on whether it on he wants to.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, tomato left, but I don't think him and child.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think him and gargoyle had the belts in the last year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but yeah, like, um, I think I think he would be good in a w like he's different.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, you can find I think it's one of those things where it's like he's but he's been in before as the mercenary for Jericho as I recall.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, I mean, different various roles like, I mean, I think he's, I think he's just going to go back to Japan and be in the United Empire again, yeah, or feuding with them, one of the two, because they were baby faces when he left.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So they may, you know, and Kalam Newman seems to kind of want to distance himself from people that, you know, so I could see I could see him coming in as if he's going to join and then they turn on him and then he joins up with unbound company in the Japan, like the Yoda Sujiger, you know, you could see.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But back to back to the show we're covering.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, it's fine.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so then we got a video packet for Roosh and just, you know, it was a good little video packet to these had another one on draw to and just I got almost got to feel like Tony only had like maybe an hour and a half of material tonight and get the stretch, which sometimes makes for good like because I liked packages like this and then this video package right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't really know where they're going with Roosh, but a lot of video packages tonight, though.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, because like a lot of the promos were pre-tapes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Wow.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Interesting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Wow.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And nothing wrong with it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll bet you people weren't complaining.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I bet the quality control is better.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And actually, then the next thing we got, and you almost never get this on a W. Like, I honestly can't think of any time they've ever done this, and it was only like 15 seconds.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They literally replayed the Chris Jericho segment from last week, like not in a video bag, they literally just replayed it because I was like, I'm watching this and I'm like, wait a second, this is exactly what they aired last week.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The thing with Renee and where he got attacked by the demand, then they cut to a live segment and he's effin furious.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The time for talking is done, words are over.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's time to fight, but unlike the demand, I don't want to fight backstage.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to take it out there to the people.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So he goes out there and how are you, South Carolina?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Get up, come on and fans are training Y2J, which is like, you haven't been Y2J in about 15 years.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And they says, I'm going to keep this very simple because this is Charleston.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is a W Dynamite and I am Jericho and I've done with three on one beat downs and I'm done with the attacks from behind on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm done with all this bullshit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So Rick Shambha asks, I'm going to demand that you come out here and talk to me face to face one on one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Man to man right here right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, I don't know if this was on purpose, but he literally just said, the time for talking is done, I want to fight and then here he said, I want you to come out here and talk to me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, Jericho's not an idiot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that was on purpose, even though it sounds completely stupid, I think he's a disingenuous prick.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's for 10 years.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, baby face.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This has been our thesis since then.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I mean, the longer it goes, I'm wondering, or maybe the fans haven't figured it out, and they think he's a baby face.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So anyways, outcomes rickshay and the gates of agony are behind them, and Towa, shoved Jericho while he was trying to get ricksham Mike, and then he gives hands to the Mike's his Jericho look.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Try to do a favor by telling you to leave, but you wouldn't listen.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure that you and every simple minded person out there in Charleston, think it's funny that you trademark that stupid phrase every week that you show up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And Jericho says, I can't hear a damn word you're saying, because these people are balloons a lot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And they were balloon pretty loud.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He says, I don't know if you have a mutilation fetage, but we can make this a reality in front of these overweight mouthbreeding hillbillies in North Carolina.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He says, if I'm being honest, I'm getting tired of bored of it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But if we do this one-on-one, what do we get out of it?
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[SPEAKER_00]: What does the man get out of this Jericho?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then Conwisper's something to him and Rick Shade likes it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He says Jericho, six years ago, you created your own match.
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[SPEAKER_00]: A match that shaped a double or nothing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: In a stadium that's named after an American icon, Louis Armstrong, I'm going to give you a losing record in your very own match.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then he starts arguing with someone in the fans.
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[SPEAKER_00]: trying to get them to come up fight.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he says, but Jericho, back to you, this time, I won't just beat you with your own move, the line salt, which is now the Rico salt.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to beat you in a stadium stamp heed match.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then Jericho says, or no, he says, that's a great idea.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But the only problem is, last time we faced each other, you have to pay people to watch your back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not sure you're going to be able to find four of the partners, because here in AWS, nobody, this is my company and nobody likes your ass.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then Jericho says, first of all, you stupid son of a bitch, there's a South Carolina and everybody cheers.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then Rick says the same thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's not wrong.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Wow.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let me, let me get this straight.
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[SPEAKER_00]: you want a stadium match at double or nothing, stadium stamp heat.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, tell you this, Rick Shay, you're on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm sure there's somebody here that likes me, but even if I can't find four partners, I'll take on and all of you by myself, bald, then he punches him with the mic, and then he fights off gates of agony by himself.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a Judas effect on Rick Shay, and he ends it, but he's stuck around a little bit too long, and then he ends up getting, you know, tag, beat up three on one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: hurts syndicate comes out and makes the save.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was positive they were going to attack Jericho and they would enjoy the heel game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because Rick is he needs two partners, too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But no, apparently he is partners with them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So now it's three on three and the next couple weeks will be both teams trying to find two more partners.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think I know who's going to be on the baby face side.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Possibly.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Sammy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I was thinking Sammy and Dustin.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Dustin apparently is close right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean send it to the heel right now and he's part of L of five, but who cares?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then on the heel side, it will be something like, you know, the dogs or something like that, or oh, no, no, no, no, no big Bill and Brian Keith, I'll take that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'd love that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean because they want to get their hands on Jericho, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I get russian here, my russian on Dorada.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe russian, Sammy on the baby face side.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's not a baby face, it doesn't matter if he is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He cuts his promo as the fans chant, they cut y'all like, he's a baby face to us.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's a baby face goes fans.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They chant, like, you get hurt.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, Howard.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, I'm here for the, I am here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If Roosh is on the baby face, I know you don't have, because you have Roosh, Lashley, and Benjamin.
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[SPEAKER_02]: My god, who would want to fight?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like and then they all attack Jericho after the match sure why not, but Sammy had the most memorable moment of the first state of Sam Pied match Oh, yeah, oh, yeah, I think it's got to be Sammy at least and you know what he is a heel, but nobody watches our way to it Doesn't say okay, how about Sammy and oh Wait a second how about okay, maybe Sammy I was thinking Sammy and Ortiz, but could also be like eight or Kingston or Ortiz That's what I was saying yeah, yeah, I mean that yeah, there's there's definitely worse ideas than that
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, so they go to the back and by the way, let me point out my wife was gone by now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank God.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, so we go to the back with Renee Mina and Harley.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, Harley is dressed in a t-shirt and okay, this is a beautiful woman.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, if you didn't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And she was looking in just as her.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Hi, Jeff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It is a beautiful beautiful woman.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And she was looking, trying to look as unbeautiful as possible, but she, it's impossible for her not to look beautiful, but she looked from me or as from me as Harley camera can look.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She's dressed in a t-shirt, it's a long t-shirt.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And she's just, she's been kind of depressed ever since you're tagging with Willow broke up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so she, she said she doesn't know how to feel.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then Mina cuts this promo to get her fired up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She says, wake up!
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[SPEAKER_00]: What's it comes down to us and stat?
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Can you trust stat?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I hope so.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But we have a match to win.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And Harley, you're one of the first ever tag team champions.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So stop looking out there, look in here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And she ran off for a shirt, and her bra is there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And their tits are spilling out of it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And she's like, Shita, stat.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The wrath is back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And tonight you're going to feel it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And Renee, his library lasted, and she says, you're in for a hell of a match, but you gotta go put something on, and they leave.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And this is something else.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Boobs of wrath, of boobs of wrath.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That should be their team name.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought it was going to be at first.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the timeless love boobs are rough.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, uh, and uh, watching Mina struggle with the English language.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, you know what?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I understood everywhere she said.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I did do, I just, I, let's just move on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, so they did
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[SPEAKER_00]: of the card.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I looked at a rundown of the show before I started to do the preview for this show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: hardly spent great money her words by the way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I remember that I remember that promo.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I do not recall a match being announced of Cuzusco caught in Brian Keith.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Was this a stand-by match?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Did they say that?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I got literally asking.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Does anybody know?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Or was your stand-by, but okay, and I believe it was a title match, but I'm not sure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They did put up like international championship before the match.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it might have been a title match, it doesn't matter.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This was your typical little caught match except like a lot of times you get a caught at like 50% or charitably less than 50.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This was maybe 20.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He put for no effort in this match.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Brian Keith did, but didn't get much time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And a caught up like.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, how he always does the thing where he teases the rainmaker and then he flips off the fans and he hits the semi just hit the rainmaker.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Ben, Ben, Brian Keith and Brian Keith was flattened his back like, and then he was there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he's lying there while they did the promo like, they, you know, I mean, yeah, he's an R wage guy now, but man, they buried this guy somewhere fierce.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, Swarves doing is a gimmick.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So true, true, yeah, the most wanted by the bounty hunter.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, it was all basically just like almost a squash.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I mean, Brian, keep got some offense in.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But, and I know, caught a bit of a problem.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Where is Big Bill, by the way?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was asking that myself, too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like he wasn't at ringside, who knows?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe he's hurt, maybe he's injured, or maybe he's just contracts up, like who knows?
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I like that team and I do too.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I like their personality.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I like their promos.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think they have a new name, too, and I can't remember what it is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But like they're not the learning tree anymore.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They gave them a different name, but maybe some of the chat remembers their name.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But he did, oh, kind of did a promo.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He said he doesn't like the cash, he wants more.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's coming for the AWS World Title, bitch.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I wrote, oh, maybe that's Darby's match next week and I guess we found out collision that it is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So kind of random out of nowhere.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Another one of these.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure matches that Darby had on his list of people he wants to wrestle and you know, he's gone through the Pacific Northwest guys and now he's moving on to, you know, probably make you an actual upper tier feud, which is good for a champion.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now he's not going to win it clean because Takesh is going to do something and do we get, do we get the how close to 100% old codder do we get in this title match next week?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh,
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[SPEAKER_02]: More in motivated than usual, but not motivated in paperview terms.
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[SPEAKER_02]: 60% maybe.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I want to go, let's go with 65.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's go with the gentleman 65.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I work pretty close then.
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[SPEAKER_00]: uh... then we got the uh... on draw a little a little package those pretty good calls himself the best of us can rest their live they focused on the women that were rinks i watching matches this would be even better if he had lost his last two matches or if they had mentioned that he won a title on the weekend uh... which they didn't uh... apparently you said they did on collision so that's fine we know that about a third of the audience is going to tune out before collision starts so uh... then we got
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[SPEAKER_00]: Kevin Knight was speedball.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Tonight, the TNT champion becomes jet two belts.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Time for you to prove your rising star, but you're way up there shining bright.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Kevin Knight says, I like the way that sounds.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I appreciate you, Darby Allen for being a fighting champion.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You said you're fighting till your body will give up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, tonight, that's what's going to happen when you step
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[SPEAKER_00]: This was the least convincing promo.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think I may have ever heard for somebody going into a world title match.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, when they say that's the least you could do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There we go.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There we go.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There we go.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There we go.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There we go.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There we go.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There we go.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There we go.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There we go.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There we go.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There we go.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There we go.
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[SPEAKER_02]: hangman could have done it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you guys as a team.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, yeah, he's a partner, isn't he?
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[SPEAKER_00]: What was their name?
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[SPEAKER_00]: hung hung hung like a beast or something.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What was their name?
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[SPEAKER_01]: uh oh god it was terrible yeah it was something with hung right cowboy speed I thought I was a little bit no no no no no no no no no no it was it was like some sort of a sexual reference jet ship yeah nobody will uh
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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you, John.
57:57.150 --> 58:01.737
[SPEAKER_00]: John says I had more crews of an excitement and re-capping than that promo with then both feedball and jet did.
58:02.277 --> 58:04.280
[SPEAKER_00]: I thought my Mike Bailey was spot on.
58:05.262 --> 58:06.543
[SPEAKER_00]: That's the problem.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
58:07.785 --> 58:07.925
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
58:08.005 --> 58:10.209
[SPEAKER_00]: And I did have more motion than he did, unfortunately.
58:11.611 --> 58:12.812
[SPEAKER_00]: Then we got an opt promo.
58:12.992 --> 58:17.278
[SPEAKER_00]: As I said earlier, maybe it was on, maybe it was when we were talking before the show I can't remember.
58:17.679 --> 58:19.101
[SPEAKER_00]: But best thing on the show.
58:19.582 --> 58:19.862
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
58:20.323 --> 58:22.265
[SPEAKER_00]: And I like, I like the main event a lot.
58:22.866 --> 58:24.128
[SPEAKER_00]: But
58:24.395 --> 58:34.270
[SPEAKER_00]: Joe says he's got Boeing's a Chobada with him and I thought hope might be filming, but no, it was somebody else, but Chobada wanted to film and then Joe's like, no, just let the guy do his job.
58:34.951 --> 58:39.498
[SPEAKER_02]: And he says he's he's Union, you know what I mess with those guys.
58:40.139 --> 58:43.804
[SPEAKER_00]: It's as well, ladies and gentlemen, it is I and I'm joined by the ops.
58:44.223 --> 58:48.348
[SPEAKER_00]: Now last week I put out an offer and sadly it's not being heard.
58:48.428 --> 58:53.254
[SPEAKER_00]: So will Osprey please hear these words and allow me to explain myself in a non-intimidating manner.
58:54.075 --> 58:56.058
[SPEAKER_00]: John Moxley is telling you how to think.
58:57.059 --> 58:59.042
[SPEAKER_00]: Will you think however you want to think?
58:59.622 --> 59:03.808
[SPEAKER_00]: William, I see the momentum, I see the tide rising.
59:04.228 --> 59:05.670
[SPEAKER_00]: You are destined for greatness.
59:06.251 --> 59:08.133
[SPEAKER_00]: Some say you will be the next world champion.
59:08.894 --> 59:11.277
[SPEAKER_00]: But how much of you will be left to remain champion?
59:11.881 --> 59:16.166
[SPEAKER_00]: with men like us at your side William, that could be a very long time.
59:16.887 --> 59:19.891
[SPEAKER_00]: Now you may say to yourself, what advantages are there to this?
59:21.132 --> 59:21.713
[SPEAKER_00]: Look at Hook.
59:22.414 --> 59:25.978
[SPEAKER_00]: He lost his type chance to become the champion of television last week.
59:26.018 --> 59:27.060
[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't punish that man.
59:27.841 --> 59:29.002
[SPEAKER_00]: He's off filming a movie.
59:29.142 --> 59:30.864
[SPEAKER_00]: I put him in a better position to success.
59:30.924 --> 59:33.147
[SPEAKER_00]: Put it in a few words for him with my context.
59:33.498 --> 59:34.700
[SPEAKER_00]: That's what I want to do for you.
59:35.401 --> 59:41.811
[SPEAKER_00]: Anthony Bowens, long time one of the most under-appreciated talents in AWS, now he's got an opportunity to succeed.
59:42.773 --> 59:50.485
[SPEAKER_00]: Katsuya or Shabata, know where else in the world can he be what he is and that's the wrestler than with the ops right here right now.
59:51.246 --> 59:53.470
[SPEAKER_00]: Will, choices is clear as day.
59:54.031 --> 59:56.134
[SPEAKER_00]: Swap put my hand out to you one last time.
59:57.216 --> 01:00:00.501
[SPEAKER_00]: But if it's not accepted next time, I'm putting out my fist.
01:00:02.101 --> 01:00:06.166
[SPEAKER_00]: I freaking love this, and Will should join the office.
01:00:06.186 --> 01:00:07.027
[SPEAKER_00]: He's not good.
01:00:07.287 --> 01:00:11.492
[SPEAKER_00]: He's going to be fighting Joe at Double or Nothing is the conclusion to come to.
01:00:12.013 --> 01:00:13.134
[SPEAKER_00]: But that's not what I want.
01:00:14.676 --> 01:00:16.398
[SPEAKER_00]: I want to know who booked hook in a movie.
01:00:17.459 --> 01:00:18.300
[SPEAKER_00]: Joe, he told you.
01:00:19.021 --> 01:00:24.067
[SPEAKER_00]: No, by me, and like, no, it's probably that movie he was filming before, and he probably had to go do recuts or whatever.
01:00:24.127 --> 01:00:25.428
[SPEAKER_02]: He was filming a movie?
01:00:25.729 --> 01:00:27.771
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, I can.
01:00:28.207 --> 01:00:30.910
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like a low budget when his girlfriend's an actress, I think.
01:00:32.472 --> 01:00:41.183
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I can't remember what it was, but yeah, he was off for like three months, like last year at some point knew it was, it wasn't, he wasn't injured.
01:00:41.203 --> 01:00:41.884
[SPEAKER_00]: He was filming a movie.
01:00:42.205 --> 01:00:44.528
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah.
01:00:44.648 --> 01:00:46.650
[SPEAKER_00]: Curry had John, John Cales had Osprey.
01:00:46.690 --> 01:00:47.491
[SPEAKER_00]: He fired him.
01:00:48.232 --> 01:00:48.713
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
01:00:48.862 --> 01:00:50.304
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
01:00:50.544 --> 01:00:56.731
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, I I love that promo and I he's an idiot if he doesn't accept and I guess he's maybe because he's not going to accept.
01:00:57.352 --> 01:00:59.094
[SPEAKER_02]: Joe just makes everything so real.
01:00:59.174 --> 01:01:03.279
[SPEAKER_00]: I love Joe is a reasonable person who backs up his words.
01:01:03.339 --> 01:01:07.083
[SPEAKER_00]: Moxie is a raving lunatic who attacks people at random.
01:01:07.584 --> 01:01:09.927
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, which which team would I want to be on?
01:01:09.947 --> 01:01:10.988
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm joining the ops.
01:01:12.166 --> 01:01:17.416
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, so maybe we got mean and Harley versus Chris and Shida this match.
01:01:17.536 --> 01:01:21.483
[SPEAKER_00]: Actually, it was pretty good at the start and then at some point it just kind of fell apart.
01:01:22.485 --> 01:01:24.108
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, it's weird.
01:01:24.148 --> 01:01:24.810
[SPEAKER_00]: This weekend.
01:01:24.830 --> 01:01:30.360
[SPEAKER_00]: They announced so collision just finished right and and so they had an hour collision tonight.
01:01:30.340 --> 01:01:36.271
[SPEAKER_00]: But apparently they're having a live show on Saturday and I think it's only one hour, which is weird.
01:01:36.291 --> 01:01:41.581
[SPEAKER_00]: Like they're doing it's like fighting at the fairway to hell.
01:01:42.022 --> 01:01:42.643
[SPEAKER_00]: Fairway to hell.
01:01:43.104 --> 01:01:43.725
[SPEAKER_00]: One hour.
01:01:44.127 --> 01:01:44.548
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
01:01:45.089 --> 01:01:45.329
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
01:01:45.991 --> 01:01:46.271
[SPEAKER_00]: Weird.
01:01:46.291 --> 01:01:51.301
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, they're probably taping some ring of honor stuff or something, but anyways, they went through a break.
01:01:52.924 --> 01:01:57.453
[SPEAKER_00]: Mina was wrestling most of the time and eventually, like said, it fell apart.
01:01:58.776 --> 01:02:03.605
[SPEAKER_00]: Then so, stat gave some Mina superplex.
01:02:03.625 --> 01:02:06.591
[SPEAKER_00]: Then a falcon arrow got a two count no reaction.
01:02:06.571 --> 01:02:20.007
[SPEAKER_00]: She to accidentally hit that line over the knee, then she hit, then she gets hit with a back fist by Mina, Harley tagged in, she's hitting four arms, then she hit a neckbreaker on Shea rolled her up for two.
01:02:20.223 --> 01:02:22.426
[SPEAKER_00]: Harley hit a roundhouse in the back staver.
01:02:22.907 --> 01:02:25.710
[SPEAKER_00]: Then she went for its her finish, but stat made the save.
01:02:26.832 --> 01:02:28.294
[SPEAKER_00]: Then she got in she just faced.
01:02:28.714 --> 01:02:31.277
[SPEAKER_00]: Then she just picked Harley up, hit a falcon arrow, got the pin.
01:02:31.778 --> 01:02:34.061
[SPEAKER_00]: She's celebrating stats mad and she leaves.
01:02:34.462 --> 01:02:42.492
[SPEAKER_00]: And at one point like she'd a like, wait to go and she's slaps her on the chest and and stats.
01:02:42.512 --> 01:02:44.695
[SPEAKER_00]: She walks it with weird.
01:02:45.653 --> 01:02:46.114
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
01:02:46.134 --> 01:02:47.375
[SPEAKER_00]: I have no idea what's going on here.
01:02:48.196 --> 01:02:52.542
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, they're eventually going to feud with each other or stats going to turn here.
01:02:52.562 --> 01:02:53.083
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, one of the two.
01:02:53.904 --> 01:02:55.026
[SPEAKER_00]: It's who cares.
01:02:55.887 --> 01:02:57.830
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, that's the bigger issue here.
01:02:58.010 --> 01:03:05.100
[SPEAKER_00]: That's why it's amazing how how much of a tumble this women's division has taken in the last month, ever since we got it.
01:03:05.120 --> 01:03:08.044
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I can drop a who would tell who killed Tony storyline.
01:03:08.064 --> 01:03:09.045
[SPEAKER_00]: That's dead, right?
01:03:09.987 --> 01:03:12.250
[SPEAKER_02]: No, they're just going to save the reveal or whatever.
01:03:12.290 --> 01:03:17.135
[SPEAKER_02]: But like I said, if they signed Kaylee Race, he's the second best person in this division tomorrow.
01:03:17.896 --> 01:03:18.457
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
01:03:18.537 --> 01:03:21.340
[SPEAKER_00]: And yet Tony or Dave won't shut up about Zoe Stark.
01:03:23.062 --> 01:03:25.885
[SPEAKER_00]: So he has potential, but I still, yeah, I mean, it's always fine.
01:03:25.925 --> 01:03:30.410
[SPEAKER_02]: But Kaylee and Kaylee are the two people that AEW could use most.
01:03:30.991 --> 01:03:32.212
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, Kyrie, yeah, yeah.
01:03:32.593 --> 01:03:34.695
[SPEAKER_00]: I think Kyrie's going to end up back in WWE.
01:03:34.760 --> 01:04:00.598
[SPEAKER_00]: I think she's going to end up back for this paper view and then she's gone could be could be yeah because I was surprised I'm finally I finally watched the raw right after got cut where like the fans were like Channing, you know cut for Kyrie and they couldn't mute it.
01:04:01.085 --> 01:04:26.755
[SPEAKER_00]: And he says two months ago, I told everyone I was after power, very few understand what it truly means, real power means deciding who eats and who stars and no one will stop and make sure the whole world sees it from the most dangerous to the most violent to the most wanted and then he holds at the vendito poster more power means more fear more control and there's nothing more dangerous that a man who desires power and I want it all.
01:04:27.224 --> 01:04:34.813
[SPEAKER_02]: This was very mid this was as I'm sorry, yeah, it's Jeff Jarrett talking about stroke.
01:04:35.114 --> 01:04:41.442
[SPEAKER_02]: That's that's what it and it's like, again, it's like, okay, what power do you get out of beating Bandito.
01:04:41.462 --> 01:04:50.633
[SPEAKER_00]: I think over our way, yeah, like, and they've never once mentioned our wage or his title, so I don't think it's that right, yeah.
01:04:50.950 --> 01:04:58.319
[SPEAKER_02]: It's one of those esoteric promos that sounds good in the theory when you pitch it and then you realize that this makes no sense in a wrestling world.
01:04:59.480 --> 01:05:10.333
[SPEAKER_00]: And then the next segment is Renee with Brodito and and then Brody bandito says Renee, you know, Swerv is right I am the most wanted if you want me swear if I'm easy to find.
01:05:11.034 --> 01:05:18.763
[SPEAKER_00]: And then Brody says you know bandito I know you got this to yourself, Swerv it's one thing to mess with me, but if you mess with my friends they'll be held to pay.
01:05:19.908 --> 01:05:23.376
[SPEAKER_00]: And again, this was like, oh, we got 30 seconds.
01:05:23.436 --> 01:05:25.159
[SPEAKER_00]: Real, you guys were going to a problem.
01:05:25.240 --> 01:05:26.382
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we forgot the bark at the end.
01:05:26.402 --> 01:05:30.451
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, they did some weird thing where they, they were trying to get some catchphrase going.
01:05:30.732 --> 01:05:31.694
[SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't just woof.
01:05:31.754 --> 01:05:37.326
[SPEAKER_00]: It was a few things that they didn't, I just didn't even bother writing it down because I don't think it's going to take.
01:05:37.711 --> 01:05:43.599
[SPEAKER_00]: Then we got the main event, and this was, I mean, another wild Derby title defense.
01:05:44.620 --> 01:05:50.328
[SPEAKER_00]: Crowdheat was mixed, like they were at times they were super hot, and at other times they were like there was nobody there.
01:05:51.890 --> 01:05:59.140
[SPEAKER_00]: Shavani mentioned this the first time anyone's ever defended the W World title in three consecutive weeks, and I guess it will be four next week.
01:06:00.041 --> 01:06:06.790
[SPEAKER_00]: They went through a break, they came back with four minutes left in the scheduled time, and then the match kind of went nuts.
01:06:06.770 --> 01:06:13.139
[SPEAKER_00]: So Darby hit a dive on the night on the outside, hit the back of his head on the announced that's pretty hard.
01:06:13.179 --> 01:06:14.220
[SPEAKER_00]: That was night that did that.
01:06:14.961 --> 01:06:16.543
[SPEAKER_00]: Then he head by the night into a chair.
01:06:17.104 --> 01:06:28.379
[SPEAKER_00]: He was about to dive on him and then Kevin night got up, toss a chair away, jumps up to the top rope, hits Darby with a rana to the outside.
01:06:28.900 --> 01:06:32.845
[SPEAKER_00]: Darby takes a bump to the floor from the top turn buckle,
01:06:33.213 --> 01:06:35.337
[SPEAKER_00]: And the announcers don't barely even mention it.
01:06:35.958 --> 01:06:54.510
[SPEAKER_00]: And then immediately they go to the next spot, which is Darby on the announced desk, and Kevin Knight does this freaking wild dive with a, like, I guess it was supposed to be a close line, but somehow, like, it was like a freaking car crash, they both somehow ended up under the desk.
01:06:54.670 --> 01:06:56.233
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't even know how,
01:06:56.213 --> 01:07:01.639
[SPEAKER_00]: And God, they, they look like they both died, but they both got back in the ring fairly quickly.
01:07:01.759 --> 01:07:07.706
[SPEAKER_00]: Knight was selling his knee at this point, and I was wondering if he was really hurt, but I think it was just part of the story of the match.
01:07:07.726 --> 01:07:10.289
[SPEAKER_00]: And then he didn't die from the second rope, but he missed.
01:07:10.649 --> 01:07:12.391
[SPEAKER_00]: Darby put it on the scorpion deathlock.
01:07:12.952 --> 01:07:14.193
[SPEAKER_00]: Knight made the ropes broken up.
01:07:14.594 --> 01:07:16.436
[SPEAKER_00]: Darby at this point is also selling his leg.
01:07:16.816 --> 01:07:21.782
[SPEAKER_00]: Goes to the top rope and he going for a coffin drop, but Darby or Knight got his knees up.
01:07:22.117 --> 01:07:45.897
[SPEAKER_00]: And then he starts selling them even more, puts Darby on on the top turn buckle, but Darby powered out with punches knocked him off went for a coffin drop again, but Dar, Kevin night knocked him off and that at this point he's in a tree of woe, night does a coast to coast drop kick, then he hits the UFO splash, but again, he's selling his knee and he can't make the cover, and that's when I realized, okay, he's probably not hurt because that's clearly part of the story of the match.
01:07:45.877 --> 01:07:52.117
[SPEAKER_00]: And then he finally covered him, but Darby rolled out, and immediately the crowd didn't really even react.
01:07:52.218 --> 01:07:59.481
[SPEAKER_00]: Then we got a light Darby chant, and then he rolled them over, went to the corner again, but Darby crawled away this time, so he's kind of getting desperate.
01:07:59.933 --> 01:08:06.780
[SPEAKER_00]: And then Darby kicked him in the knee, put on a guillotine, and then night got up, and then he collapsed to the man.
01:08:06.820 --> 01:08:11.684
[SPEAKER_00]: I thought, Oh, man, he's going to collapse just like juice Robinson didn't the opener, but he won't go out.
01:08:11.765 --> 01:08:15.128
[SPEAKER_00]: Then he finally gets up again, Darby wrenched his arm against the ropes.
01:08:15.188 --> 01:08:28.641
[SPEAKER_00]: Then he put on a bulldog choke left him draped against the ropes, hit a coffin drop night falls in the middle of the ring.
01:08:30.157 --> 01:08:32.219
[SPEAKER_00]: So I, you know, pretty good back.
01:08:32.659 --> 01:08:35.442
[SPEAKER_00]: Probably the weakest of the three, but still like really damn good.
01:08:36.002 --> 01:08:38.605
[SPEAKER_00]: Like I'm not, I'm no much the match was good.
01:08:38.625 --> 01:08:47.193
[SPEAKER_02]: I think my personal predilection is I just want to take the guys in the back.
01:08:47.873 --> 01:08:54.159
[SPEAKER_02]: I want to take these two, especially because of their status as maybe not the guy, but the guy with the world title.
01:08:55.961 --> 01:08:59.404
[SPEAKER_02]: And Kevin night, especially on this end and go.
01:08:59.485 --> 01:09:07.733
[SPEAKER_02]: All right, you need to imagine, what if this is your only shot at a world championship in real life?
01:09:08.494 --> 01:09:10.376
[SPEAKER_02]: How are you going to react out there?
01:09:10.416 --> 01:09:13.058
[SPEAKER_02]: What kind of emotion are you bringing to this match?
01:09:13.619 --> 01:09:16.522
[SPEAKER_02]: Because that's what it was missing for me was emotion.
01:09:16.722 --> 01:09:20.606
[SPEAKER_02]: If the wrestling was fine, it was nice, the near falls were good.
01:09:20.626 --> 01:09:27.973
[SPEAKER_02]: I want to see that sense of desperation out of a guy at the level of
01:09:28.561 --> 01:09:30.345
[SPEAKER_02]: in the biggest match of his career.
01:09:30.546 --> 01:09:32.992
[SPEAKER_02]: I want it to feel like the biggest match of his career.
01:09:33.894 --> 01:09:37.102
[SPEAKER_02]: And I don't get that any just wrestle for the world title like a month ago.
01:09:37.784 --> 01:09:38.586
[SPEAKER_00]: I guess I'm Japh.
01:09:38.606 --> 01:09:38.706
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
01:09:39.047 --> 01:09:39.548
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
01:09:39.568 --> 01:09:41.413
[SPEAKER_00]: So, but yeah, it was not.
01:09:41.433 --> 01:09:42.315
[SPEAKER_02]: And it was the same thing.
01:09:42.496 --> 01:09:44.400
[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, I just, it's wonderful.
01:09:44.421 --> 01:09:45.844
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, yeah, okay.
01:09:46.145 --> 01:10:01.723
[SPEAKER_00]: look at this way mjf is a much quote unquote better wrestler in kfab so to speak you know our story of this match could have been and he now just could have told this he lost him on the go if he leaves it again tonight he may not have been out of another like yes years
01:10:02.598 --> 01:10:08.587
[SPEAKER_02]: Or maybe Darby being injured isn't at the level of max at full strength.
01:10:08.607 --> 01:10:08.987
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
01:10:09.308 --> 01:10:10.469
[SPEAKER_00]: He did very well.
01:10:10.790 --> 01:10:10.970
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
01:10:10.990 --> 01:10:11.311
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
01:10:11.691 --> 01:10:15.537
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what that second tier of commitment in it.
01:10:15.577 --> 01:10:16.278
[SPEAKER_02]: And I wasn't getting it.
01:10:16.338 --> 01:10:17.279
[SPEAKER_02]: It was a fine match.
01:10:17.680 --> 01:10:20.604
[SPEAKER_02]: It was a good super indie style type match.
01:10:20.684 --> 01:10:21.325
[SPEAKER_02]: It was fine.
01:10:21.345 --> 01:10:21.445
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
01:10:21.706 --> 01:10:22.207
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it was.
01:10:22.307 --> 01:10:22.707
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
01:10:22.727 --> 01:10:23.769
[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, I agree with all that.
01:10:24.610 --> 01:10:28.015
[SPEAKER_00]: And I did, you know, it just occurred to me.
01:10:29.227 --> 01:10:31.531
[SPEAKER_00]: It's possible, O'Cotta could win the title next week.
01:10:31.992 --> 01:10:37.963
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, because at some point, the story is going to be that Derby's body gave out.
01:10:37.983 --> 01:10:43.753
[SPEAKER_00]: And if O'Cotta won the title, then they could catch the matches for the world title.
01:10:43.793 --> 01:10:51.066
[SPEAKER_00]: No, that to catch the match is for the national title, not the world title, to catch the wins.
01:10:51.670 --> 01:11:03.263
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so Cotta is still the world champion and the match we're building to at at all the sudden is now Ocotta versus Osprey, which is a fricking massive match.
01:11:05.085 --> 01:11:06.266
[SPEAKER_02]: All right, I'll take that.
01:11:06.867 --> 01:11:15.737
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think nobody has that on their bingo card, but no, but I don't think they're also not going to do that in the middle of their quote unquote play off programming.
01:11:16.848 --> 01:11:19.372
[SPEAKER_00]: that you know what that may be a very good point.
01:11:20.274 --> 01:11:24.761
[SPEAKER_00]: Because these ratings, I should also, we haven't really talked about it, but they're getting worse every week.
01:11:25.102 --> 01:11:38.704
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, part of it, I think is, I think Nielsen said another change in the way they're figuring out the ratings, but you know, between the ratings and the ticket sales and, you know, the early returns on the
01:11:38.684 --> 01:11:41.229
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, they're they're they're they're not positive.
01:11:41.609 --> 01:11:45.196
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not necessarily saying they're negative because there's you know, there's the playoffs.
01:11:45.256 --> 01:11:55.374
[SPEAKER_00]: They're there may be the the method all these changing and everything, but I don't think there's anything to suggest that it's a business positive, but Paul, we don't have the numbers for the streaming on HBO Max.
01:11:55.494 --> 01:11:58.600
[SPEAKER_00]: No, we don't, but you know what else is also streaming on HBO Max.
01:11:58.580 --> 01:12:09.554
[SPEAKER_02]: God, I'm sorry, but I set the rating stock and listening to Dave talk about how like 50% of the viewers are on HBO Max.
01:12:09.574 --> 01:12:12.517
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just the fact there was a fraction battle between two guys.
01:12:12.557 --> 01:12:26.595
[SPEAKER_02]: Like it's slightly less and it was like It was like two thirds versus slightly less and two thirds versus one half and I had to write on the board Yes, three six is slightly less and four six
01:12:27.622 --> 01:12:28.824
[SPEAKER_02]: Chico's right.
01:12:30.047 --> 01:12:33.012
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't I don't really buy that, but I could be unique.
01:12:33.072 --> 01:12:37.301
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think there are 200,000 people watching on HBO Max every week.
01:12:37.361 --> 01:12:37.962
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sorry.
01:12:38.242 --> 01:12:42.951
[SPEAKER_02]: I can't get for the problem is is isn't the initial class also wearing on HBO Max?
01:12:42.971 --> 01:12:44.194
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, live.
01:12:44.595 --> 01:12:44.995
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
01:12:45.015 --> 01:12:45.797
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
01:12:45.817 --> 01:12:45.917
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
01:12:45.897 --> 01:13:04.314
[SPEAKER_00]: So what we don't know and it doesn't matter what we think what matters is what's happening and and they have the numbers I think so we know the step so I mean we talked about what is oh yeah it was so so the step of anyone watched us and didn't watch collision mjf's put up his hair.
01:13:04.674 --> 01:13:12.782
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you know, I don't I was hoping for something more interesting than that.
01:13:13.437 --> 01:13:17.025
[SPEAKER_00]: I guess that leaves you know what the one positive I'll say about that snippet.
01:13:17.045 --> 01:13:20.553
[SPEAKER_00]: It's it's so lame that you could see either way happening.
01:13:21.054 --> 01:13:23.019
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, we have what they do with you.
01:13:23.039 --> 01:13:23.841
[SPEAKER_02]: No, yeah.
01:13:23.921 --> 01:13:24.883
[SPEAKER_02]: M. J. F. K. Shave his head.
01:13:24.903 --> 01:13:27.128
[SPEAKER_02]: It'll be like every other AEW shave head.
01:13:27.148 --> 01:13:30.636
[SPEAKER_00]: You never get to see it like we either you or he could win or he could win the title.
01:13:31.679 --> 01:13:52.000
[SPEAKER_00]: like he easily could win the title like he could very easily win the title and I think yeah going to win the title yeah because they're in New York and yeah um and the storyline would be a Darby's finally gave out and you know what they could even play in this whole
01:13:52.891 --> 01:13:54.435
[SPEAKER_00]: you know, going into their match.
01:13:54.917 --> 01:14:02.559
[SPEAKER_00]: In fact, I'm pretty sure that's probably what's going to happen is you were going to get another payoff and then, you know, maybe a draw he's going to be watching.
01:14:02.599 --> 01:14:03.622
[SPEAKER_00]: He's not going to be happy about it.
01:14:05.086 --> 01:14:05.668
[SPEAKER_00]: Who knows?
01:14:06.239 --> 01:14:31.639
[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, so that was dynamite and again collision air immediately after it's on the pbr watch at some point I still watch last week's collision so I'm trying to watch everything in order, but then I got to watch this show so I can cover it on this show if it wasn't for the podcast I would be you know I probably wouldn't even watch last week's kind of might yet I that's how far behind I am so but I'm getting there I just watched the raw from last week
01:14:32.412 --> 01:14:38.780
[SPEAKER_00]: the one that ended with the Roman and Jacob Fattu promo, where Roman, where Jacob choked them.
01:14:39.821 --> 01:14:41.724
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, the tongue and death group is bad.
01:14:41.744 --> 01:14:42.865
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, loved it.
01:14:43.886 --> 01:14:59.145
[SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, I like some stuff on Dynamite too, but I will say I was, I was a lot more fired up for the Dynamites that were happening the first two months of the year leading into Revolution, then I have been the last couple months ever since, you know, ever since, you have lost the belt really.
01:14:59.125 --> 01:15:05.331
[SPEAKER_02]: So I feel like they're just booking matches and they're just kind of trying to get that path that Tony has in his notebook.
01:15:05.351 --> 01:15:13.320
[SPEAKER_00]: And we're trying to get through the NBA and then it shall play off, start the Owen and then I think I deep to all in and then it'll feel big.
01:15:13.340 --> 01:15:20.167
[SPEAKER_00]: And then all in all out and then the cruiserweight class or the continental classic, you know, and then you know, then Tony's cooking.
01:15:20.187 --> 01:15:28.896
[SPEAKER_02]: And then everyone will look back at this and it always all set up, you know, it's all, but I feel like his creative team is not doing him.
01:15:29.213 --> 01:15:31.216
[SPEAKER_02]: They're not doing a lot of heavy lifting forms.
01:15:31.297 --> 01:15:35.884
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, no, and actually if you listen to him, he will tell you that he is the creative team.
01:15:36.024 --> 01:15:36.706
[SPEAKER_02]: So I know.
01:15:37.206 --> 01:15:37.627
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
01:15:37.647 --> 01:15:39.450
[SPEAKER_00]: So I mean, there may be something to that.
01:15:40.011 --> 01:15:44.178
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure he has a card for all in in his head or maybe right now.
01:15:44.419 --> 01:15:54.175
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's written down and he has a path, well, he has a kind of loose outline of how he wants to get there, but the week to week stuff is a little bit beyond them.
01:15:54.357 --> 01:16:00.268
[SPEAKER_00]: And then in meantime, he's got certain people that are probably in charge of their own storylines.
01:16:00.288 --> 01:16:01.791
[SPEAKER_00]: Jericho, Moxley.
01:16:01.831 --> 01:16:03.073
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
01:16:04.596 --> 01:16:05.898
[SPEAKER_00]: Coping cage for sure.
01:16:05.939 --> 01:16:08.583
[SPEAKER_00]: And the box as part of that as well.
01:16:09.325 --> 01:16:15.336
[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, and to see got all these different people working, you know, in, in, in, it may be even Swerve.
01:16:15.316 --> 01:16:25.034
[SPEAKER_00]: in different directions to try to get to the same goal which is all in and you know selling as many tickets as they can to Wembley and ticket sales for that show.
01:16:25.054 --> 01:16:27.478
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I think the last time I saw was at 23,000.
01:16:27.879 --> 01:16:34.811
[SPEAKER_00]: So I think it's be hard for them to get to 40, but and that at 40 would a lot of people would be disappointed with 40.
01:16:34.871 --> 01:16:35.753
[SPEAKER_00]: I think 40 is fine.
01:16:35.793 --> 01:16:37.476
[SPEAKER_00]: There's not around 40,000 but.
01:16:37.456 --> 01:16:39.643
[SPEAKER_00]: In a 90,000 seed stadium.
01:16:39.923 --> 01:16:40.264
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
01:16:40.284 --> 01:16:41.528
[SPEAKER_00]: So people will be upset about that.
01:16:41.989 --> 01:16:43.795
[SPEAKER_00]: But I think you sell 40,000 tickets.
01:16:44.617 --> 01:16:46.683
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think there's anything anybody can complain about.
01:16:47.927 --> 01:16:48.509
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, Jeff.
01:16:48.910 --> 01:16:49.913
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's get your plugs in.
01:16:50.753 --> 01:16:53.197
[SPEAKER_02]: Shake them ropes to be recorded hopefully tomorrow.
01:16:53.237 --> 01:17:00.127
[SPEAKER_02]: I haven't talked to Rob yet, but yes, we will be previewing back-alash, which will be happening on Saturday.
01:17:00.147 --> 01:17:03.872
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, somewhat interesting card.
01:17:04.333 --> 01:17:05.594
[SPEAKER_02]: I think I don't know.
01:17:05.614 --> 01:17:06.916
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
01:17:07.758 --> 01:17:09.580
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, no collision, but okay.
01:17:09.600 --> 01:17:10.622
[SPEAKER_02]: It's no collision.
01:17:10.922 --> 01:17:11.563
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh-huh, you know.
01:17:13.366 --> 01:17:15.870
[SPEAKER_00]: more wrestling on collision than there will be on back.
01:17:15.950 --> 01:17:32.353
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sure there will be some new day to AEW talk possibly because of those cuts hadn't happened yet or knowledge of those hadn't happened yet and then maybe Rob will want to talk to internal and we'll see what happens but that should be in your pod catchers either late late Thursday or early Friday.
01:17:32.333 --> 01:17:33.275
[SPEAKER_00]: Sounds like a fun show.
01:17:33.836 --> 01:17:38.685
[SPEAKER_00]: And then Jeff or Gerrit and I will be back next week on Tuesday.
01:17:38.725 --> 01:17:43.955
[SPEAKER_00]: We'll talk about whoever gets cut from WWE this week, whoever's left.
01:17:44.736 --> 01:17:49.766
[SPEAKER_00]: And we'll probably run down backlash if anything major happened on that show.
01:17:49.886 --> 01:17:52.030
[SPEAKER_00]: And then Jeff and I will be back next week.
01:17:52.364 --> 01:17:56.891
[SPEAKER_00]: To talk about dynamite as we head towards double enough thing and the card starting to shape up.
01:17:56.911 --> 01:17:58.995
[SPEAKER_00]: I think we got about six matches now.
01:17:59.075 --> 01:18:00.237
[SPEAKER_00]: So we're getting there.
01:18:01.499 --> 01:18:03.462
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so for Jeff Hawkins.
01:18:04.143 --> 01:18:08.871
[SPEAKER_00]: I've been Paul Fontaine and this has been the dynamite show.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Dino-ma!
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hey everybody, it's Dino-ma, I show Paul Fontaine, Jeff Hawkins here on the fight game media, YouTube channel.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Almost exactly at the time we're supposed to start.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Tony ends his show on time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We start our show on time, and I'm talking about Dino-ma.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I understand collision that's going on right now, and
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[SPEAKER_00]: You people might be watching it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If there's less people in the chat than usual, that's, that's, you know, that's fine.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Gray brings up the same thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You kind of said to me, the first bits of collision felt more important than all dynamite outside of the Ted Memorial.
00:41.984 --> 00:44.707
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I heard about what happened and I degree with that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I would just say that they've burned me one too many times with this collision that it follows dynamite that I stop caring.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's on the PBR.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll watch it at some point.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But Jeff, oh, and also hi to everyone on the, if I can meet you at free audio feed on Thursday morning.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Big news today, we lot of us woke up to find out or hurt shortly after we woke up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That Ted Turner passed away at the age of 87.
01:12.512 --> 01:21.566
[SPEAKER_00]: So long life for Ted, although I think the last the last 10 years he had dementia, so that you know, that sucks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But
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[SPEAKER_00]: He, if you don't know, I mean, the show aired on TBS tonight, which stands for the Turner broadcasting system collision airs on TNT, which is Turner network television.
01:35.296 --> 01:36.519
[SPEAKER_00]: He also started CNN.
01:37.100 --> 01:43.393
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he basically started cable television and we'll get into wrestling, but but it was more than just wrestling.
01:43.373 --> 01:55.131
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, he's amazing and the things that he did are amazing now is an ego made heck it did a lot of gum things too, but I mean, Turner classic movies, right?
01:55.171 --> 01:57.394
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, TCM because he was because he's a film preservation.
01:57.454 --> 02:02.462
[SPEAKER_02]: He didn't like what that was I mean, he tried to invent his own Olympics in the goodwill games.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, I remember.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I forgot about that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and didn't he allow drugs in those two or my memory.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't remember that, but you know, but he, I mean, he, he won America's cup.
02:14.221 --> 02:18.187
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, as a as a yonder.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he, um, he bad Jane Fonda.
02:21.453 --> 02:25.619
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, inner prime kind of not even per L. Come on.
02:25.639 --> 02:26.721
[SPEAKER_00]: She was past her primary.
02:26.761 --> 02:27.502
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, come on.
02:27.542 --> 02:29.045
[SPEAKER_00]: She's pretty hot in the 80s.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I won't.
02:31.108 --> 02:36.116
[SPEAKER_02]: I think she, they married in the 90s, but anyway, oh, but they were dating in the 80s.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He owned the, he owned the Braves, he owned the
02:39.922 --> 02:43.452
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, he on the Braves for a long, long time, right?
02:43.613 --> 02:45.077
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, yes, 130 years.
02:45.579 --> 02:47.043
[SPEAKER_00]: I watched a baseball game today.
02:47.063 --> 02:50.473
[SPEAKER_00]: I watched it from first pitch to last pitch.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They never mentioned him once.
02:52.257 --> 02:53.678
[SPEAKER_00]: I was shocked actually.
02:54.119 --> 02:58.023
[SPEAKER_00]: People are criticizing WWE for not, you know, acknowledging it on Twitter or anything.
02:58.083 --> 03:02.187
[SPEAKER_00]: And I mean, I was surprised that they didn't acknowledge it on the baseball game I watched.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He pissed off both sides of the political aisle because like in the 80s, he was right-wing and he tried to buy CBS and CBS, comply.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, no, he's going to wreck our news division blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so it certainly goes, all right, I'm just going to be hard left now and Betty started doing like all the captain's
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[SPEAKER_02]: planet stuff.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, I didn't have worked out well because Jane is obviously just a garlic charlatan of a man at times managed the braves for one game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Did you know that?
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I wouldn't have come up with that, but now that you mentioned it, I do remember hearing that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, and there's a little bit of a personal connection with me because he's a, he's a, he's a big historical preservationist kind of person to he was big in a civil war history.
03:51.132 --> 03:55.339
[SPEAKER_02]: He was the money behind Gettysburg and getting that to be a feature film, but
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[SPEAKER_02]: Within within the Turner family and I kind of remember when TNT started it was you'd have NBA games on there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Occasionally when the NBA was, you know, wasn't the big product it was now and like Mark's brothers movies right before that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But, um,
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[SPEAKER_02]: he also liked making original historical movies and stuff like that so he like back in the 90s like the mid early to mid 90s he'd do things like buffalo soldiers about that regimented uh he did a pretty good biopic about Teddy Roosevelt did one about the uh Andersonville trial and and all of that was because of all the money he dumped into Gettysburg.
04:38.789 --> 04:42.453
[SPEAKER_02]: and getting that as a feature film on the big screen.
04:42.473 --> 04:43.575
[SPEAKER_02]: That was his big thing.
04:43.995 --> 04:50.763
[SPEAKER_02]: And back in the mid 90s when I first came out to LA and I had unreal representation.
04:50.843 --> 04:53.546
[SPEAKER_02]: And I was, you know, cock on the walk.
04:53.626 --> 04:54.787
[SPEAKER_02]: I was getting meetings everywhere.
04:54.808 --> 04:58.412
[SPEAKER_02]: I wasn't really selling much, but you know, I was getting nibbles here and there.
04:59.553 --> 05:06.501
[SPEAKER_02]: I had a passion project at concerned Civil War history about a better border.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Porter Ruffie and by name of William Quantrell.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Now for historical purposes, LaPia won't know who that is, but in terms of movies, if you want to place that, like the Outlawed Josie Whales, those guys were part of Quantrell's Raiders under Bloody Bill Anderson.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He was a con man who was a teacher, who kind of,
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[SPEAKER_02]: convinced a bunch of like near duels that he was a colonel in the confederate army and he's most famous for burning down the city of Lawrence, Kansas.
05:39.365 --> 05:41.112
[SPEAKER_02]: Now in his gang
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[SPEAKER_02]: were a bunch of famous people would go on to be famous in the old West later that the the the James brothers.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Her head.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, all the guys, all the guys in the long writers, if you ever saw that movie, those groups of brothers right there, the younger gang, the Dalton gang, the James brothers, they all rode with Quantrill.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Long writers, Scott and Bill Irwin.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, well, that too.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was saying, I'm assuming that's a film movie.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's gone, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, yes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And also, you know, a black part and, uh, and Ron Bass, we're also called the long writers at one time as a team.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, this all based on that movie.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But I, I had this project and started writing it in college and, uh, Turner.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I sent an outline to them through my agent because and my big thing was I was going to make it like the wild bunch, you know, that violent because it was by that was my favorite movie at the time and I was in luck when you're in your 20s you think you're edgy is doing this hyper violent civil war film or whatever and it's like, oh man and I got a note back that was like, you know what they love it and Ted loved it and I was like, oh, because he approved these they are like,
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I was I'm gonna go by a beamer.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I stop 20 minutes later get a phone call.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we can't do the project because they were talking like feature they're like thinking you know because like John Millius had done like a rewrite of Buffalo soldiers.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think or something like that and or uh, no of the rough writers of the Teddy Roosevelt film.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He was on there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, man.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We'd like to make, you guys, you want to bring something else to the big screen.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Finally, it's like cool.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I have a chance here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I got a nibble.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Universal has a project also about quantrill.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And Angli is is directing it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I would.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I would.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The joy luck club guy is directing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: My type of violent fantasy, what, yeah, it's, if you remember the movie right with the devil.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's cool and yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's not even choir, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, tell me what, goire, see, orange, yeah, whoo, yeah, I watch that movie just so I could, I could see
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's like it's like five minutes of gone with the wind stretched out over three hours, but the least interesting five minutes of gone with the wind.
08:18.509 --> 08:27.887
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, it's so hyper, like these guys are using $20 words from the 19th century and there's a bunch of illiterate.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Missouri kids and you're just and I've watched this and I cried at the movie, but it's because I hated it so much Yeah, and also because the Jeffrey Wright character.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I had a character like that in my movie Oh, yeah, I forgot Jeffrey Wright was in that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, because they used to do a scam with a scape slag, so I'm just like I was so close to having my dream project made and this is why we'll never like angley movies ever again Oh, I just was like damn it
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[SPEAKER_02]: But, uh, yeah, no, but like he did so much for historical preservation of both movies and culture.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Now, sure, look, he had his downsides on that because he highly bought into the the the myth of the anti-bellum South being, you know, oh, this southern gentleman, all, you know, blah, blah, that's why he liked going with the wind so much.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now you're talking about
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[SPEAKER_02]: Ted has a cameo in a very prominent cameo and get his brew playing a confederate general now I wouldn't say he's racist I just think he was ignorant I'd like there's this story I heard today like Robbie Robertson the guy from the band yeah produced produced this for tech for Turner because Turner would buy these types of things this documentary on Native Americans
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so they're at the Universal Ballroom for the up front for TBS and a bunch of Native American dancers come out and do this thing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Ted gets something else.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Man, that was just great.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Can't wait for you all to watch this.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I want to thank great the dancers.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I have to say that, because otherwise I'd get scout and run your Robertson.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is like 1993 or more.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Probably Robertson.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, but that was him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He was brash.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He was confident.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He'd run at the mouth at times.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, he's he's got like the literally the most fuck you money of anybody that probably was living at that time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, so I don't have any personal Ted Turner stories, but I mean, I certainly, you know, obviously my whole life, like, he's been, he's been around.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, yeah, and, and important, like, so we didn't have cable television up here for the longest time, and when we finally did, I mean, the first stations we got from America were TBS, yeah, and CNN.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And, and I mean, and, oh, go ahead, I was going to talk about the, the history of the superstation is that it was originally like a very powerful, like a UHF channel is what right on the antenna, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, yeah, and then he came up with the idea to basically make the station available to you know as much of the country as possible and people five years next.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to give them any Griffith reruns, graves baseball and pro wrestling seven or 605 Eastern and you know and that's I mean it was famous and you know why you did that right this the old guy because you you would you would get people that would watch the show before.
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[SPEAKER_00]: over the time and then they would not switch channels to watch something on another station.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Not just that, but TV guide back in the day was the only way to do it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And that way he got his own the big he got a line by himself right in the TV guide listing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So more people would watch it because you got seven o'clock and it would say all these different things and then seven o'clock.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, whatever it was airing on TBS and there's the dirty 30.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and then 805 eight o'clock eight o'clock five.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like and then here's a dirty secret that everybody knows.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think is that Vince McMahon wanted to be Ted Turner so bad.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that to the point where he always thought he was in a feud with Ted and not with Eric fish off, wouldn't you acknowledge Eric fish off until after we hire him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: To me, it's exactly why he says in, uh, was it beneath the matter?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Beyond the mat, we make movies, because Ted Turner made movies and that, that drove him nuts because he always, he wanted to be as a mogul, a media mogul just like Ted Turner.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And when he said, oh, I want to, I want to do some wrestling and then Tony and then he's like, no, we don't do wrestling.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We do sports entertainment.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, and then, you know, like even CNN, like people, you know, if you're under the age of 40, like you've not lived in an era without cable news, but for us, like we grew up, like there was no such thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he created it out of it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And you have to understand how much broadcast networks hated CNN when it was released.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Because it is.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And also because they got really, really big ratings when desert storm happened.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that was right when we first got it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I remember I literally like, I think I took a week off work and watched desert storm.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, you know,
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[SPEAKER_02]: and that's a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot
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[SPEAKER_00]: the thing is with CNN like you know now everything's so political like you know you got ones right wing ones left wing yeah like you can't get honest news from anybody and also really the CNN sports department was kind of the precursor to what sports center because yeah yeah because they used to do like a half hour sports show it on yeah there yeah Nick Charles and Fred
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[SPEAKER_02]: I won't say Fred Welman, but I don't think that's the net or Fred, Fred, Hickman or no, that might be even for my time because that before I got it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I, but I, you know, certainly heard about it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I got cable in around 88, 89, but they started the idea of a ticker.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, like, which is everyone now, CNN started it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, so ESPN has it, anybody who has news.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, crawl where, you know, and so if you wanted the news, you switch over to CNN and, you know, whatever the big news is, you're going to hear about it within five minutes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, whether or not they're actually talking about it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So 20 after the hour headline sports always.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, with me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm like, like, somehow.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then in terms of wrestling, like, he kept that thing going.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And they talk about it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'll go, really, like, he really liked wrestling.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I mean, and he even realized the mistake he had made for Black Thursday.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: for for for selling to WWF and going, no, that we want our southern style.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We gave Bill lots of a time slot and then and then he, I think it was Bill watch, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then he was outdrying Vince on in a worse time slot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So then that's when Vince ended up selling it back at a profit.
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[SPEAKER_02]: May have financed the first WrestleMania money he made on that was crock it, crock it, crock it, but the 605 times slot, right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that financed, and that's WrestleMania.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So crock it dug his own grave in a way.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Just a crazy rich guy away too much money.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, did you, and did you know?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's when he finally sold it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And of course, Ted wasn't technically the owner anymore because he was part of WBD and you know, all the mergers and everything.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But in that merger, yeah, I only learned this like recently, um, but so you everybody knows WWE, WWF at the time bought WCW for like $3 million dollars, $2 million or something, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So did you know?
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[SPEAKER_00]: that part of the deal was any paper view money that was still owed to WCW would go to Vince and they still had about 90 days where the paper view money coming in and because that's how it worked back in the day and they got enough paper view money more than enough paper view money to cover the cost of the deal yeah yeah so they basically got WCW from free
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[SPEAKER_02]: And don't get me wrong, like in 92 93 when WWF decided that they were going to go to this Monday night raw format.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, 93.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Why?
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[SPEAKER_00]: 93.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, go live.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, it was an experiment because they had been taping the prime time wrestling and stuff like that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And it took.
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[SPEAKER_02]: falls as big as church bells to quote, drag net for WCW go we're going to their night and we're going to face them live and Ted was like, you go for it how much now to be yeah, to be fair.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I think it was Bishop's idea, but Ted had to sign off on it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Ted had to sign off on it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and Ted, well Ted went to be Eric and said, okay, what do we have to do to compete with them?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And Eric said, well, they got live TV on Monday nights.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We need, we need that too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And Ted's like, okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, here you go and they went head to head for a while and then and then nitro expanded to two hours so then that force raw to expanded two hours and and we're taking going like so WCB was starting an hour earlier and raw was ending an hour later so they weren't actually head to head for the full for it was four hours but they were only head to head for or three hours, but they're only head to head for one hour of it is that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Was that right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: That was it originally, but what Nitro did originally was they play live 8 to 10 and then they'd replay it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then they started the overruns, which still exist, you know, where, you know, they would run an extra six, seven minutes to try to get that spill over.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're you're ending at 10, oh, five.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We got to get whatever the next show is, while the replay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, so yeah, Ted Turner, you know tremendous legacy and processing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I have a Hall of Fame vote.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I vote for him every year, and he'll probably get in next year now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now that he's dead.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was the death bump.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The death bump.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he was close.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I think he was only at one point.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he was four votes away.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I, you know, I think he loved dusty roads.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I know that much.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, and flare and flare.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, who did love flare back then?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't know about sting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I ain't on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I guess sting says he loved him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So maybe he did.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That was an interesting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, part of the trip.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, I don't know because that high on sting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I wasn't expecting it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I will say that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I mean, we might get right into it because, uh,
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[SPEAKER_00]: They opened the show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I will say they were in Charleston, South Carolina, and from what I heard now, and let's say sold a ton of tickets in the last couple days.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think this was one of the smallest dynamite crowds in history is what I heard other than obviously the pandemic.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Or maybe when they ran the ECW arena, I think they did dynamite from there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, it was like, I think it was around
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[SPEAKER_00]: And at times it sounded like 500, you know, at times it, you know, the time to make a noise, but it was weird.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But they started out and Tony Shvani was in the ring.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he puts over.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He says, you know, we're here to picture.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Be to Ted Turner.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He said he was the reason pro wrestling was on national television.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like man, spinning in his great.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, and he said, and there's one man that knows this better than anyone else.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And right away, I was like, oh my god, he's good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Bring out stay here and he says, one of the faces of pro wrestling on turner broadcasting systems.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's staying and I'll come staying no music, which is interesting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought it was classy though.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I liked.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Any, you know, no hair dies in this white hair and white beard.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Fans are saying holy shit.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It would have sent Vince on a kill crazy rampage to stamp for towers.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I would have really liked.
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[SPEAKER_02]: because they owned the footage.
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[SPEAKER_02]: WWE should have just given some of the Turner 605 footage where Turner was actually on the station or on the rest of it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Could he did a couple of times, he stopped by the studios a couple of times.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, for tapings.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That would have been a nice gesture, I think.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But do you think they'll do a tribute to him on SmackDown?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think they will.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think they'll show a billionaire Ted sketch around.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that'll be part of the tribute and then they'll claim that Ted liked it
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, no, no, no, no, they'll say, oh, the progenitor of the Monday, it'll all be about the Monday night wars.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, about anything six or five.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, no, no, thank you, 73 didn't exist.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They started in 93 and they didn't do 1, there's no wrestling on the turn of broadcast networks now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The nothing is here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's got to be explicitly focused to Ted Turner thought he could compete with the WWE in the Monday night wars.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he did for a while.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, they had 83 wigs, the ultimately lost, you know, that's how it's going to be.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, so, uh, so yeah, fans of Chinese holy shit, uh, uh, Stravani says, here we are against sting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We both knew Ted Turner really well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's a big part of UNI being together for all these years, four decades.
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[SPEAKER_00]: A little time missed in there, but, you know, who's counting?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, he said, you met with him a bunch of times.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then Sting says, can you imagine having an all-in billionaire who absolutely loved for a wrestling?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, yes, Steve, I can't.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I was, and then he says, but I'm talking about billion, billion there Ted.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, and he backtracked on that one, really.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then went to big, you know, good Ted.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yes, I can't believe what he did for us.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Committed to us, devoted to us in every way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: When the top brass would have their meetings with other top brass, they'd try to cut pro wrestling, but Ted would look at all of them, and all the wrestlers, and said, keep doing what you're doing, because I got deep pockets.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought the timing of this was interesting, given some of the discussions that were going on this week about the TV time slot and everything, which I think is all bullshit anyways, but I don't think there's anything to it, I just, you know, my radar goes up sometimes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: but he said, yeah, and then he said, that's a shoot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So thank you, Ted, without you, there wouldn't be a TNT title, there wouldn't be a sting, a Darby Allen, a Tony Shabani.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You wouldn't even be here tonight, you fans.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So thanks again, Ted, big Ted, and the fans chant, thank you, Ted.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then Tony says, tonight, your protege will defend against Turner Network Television Champion, Kevin Knight.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And things says Darby Allen, I took a blowtorch in this place for three and a half years, felt great every single time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's great to be back here in South Carolina.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Great to know that Darby Allen is wrestling for the world title tonight.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Greatest tag team partner I've ever had.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm also grateful for a second billion error who wants to keep the ball rolling.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So thank you Tony Con.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then the Savani says, when you see the Turner Network television title belt that Kevin Knight has and the Turner Broadcasting Systems title that Willow Knight and Gell has, notice the side plates.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They have a thing of a, I didn't, I didn't, I didn't, I didn't, I didn't, I didn't actually say that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think I think it said it was, it has a, it has a template of studio or something.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Template of Techwood Studios on it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that was very important to Tony Khan and very important to the history of processing on TBS and TNT.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yay, billionaires, ladies.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, so now we bring you three hours of wrestling and memory of the Maverick Ted Turner.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There is, there is some bit of disconnect with the AEW fan base and billionaires, which is kind of funny, but yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, and then the other thing is, so when he said, we're bringing you three hours and then
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[SPEAKER_00]: should have said we're going to do a 10 bell salute but he didn't so the fans didn't get the cue did like shut up because we're going to do 10 bells.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think it was halfway between the first and the second one they found Tony had his lines and he says I know them and then he forgot him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's what happened.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and that's how it's fine.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They did a nice 10-bell salute and that was over.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And the fans, Janet, thank you, Ted, kind of light.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Again, a lot of the chance tonight were light because there wasn't a lot of people there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The heat is on, said, I think he says that they did get up to about 2300, so maybe not too close.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, so a lot of late ticket movement again, still like not as good as they've been doing the last few weeks, but maybe there's people
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[SPEAKER_02]: South Carolina tends to be a pretty good wrestling area, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So that's kind of weird.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was born in Charleston, so although I mean if you look at what they advertised for this show, it wasn't much.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, and this felt this felt like we're giving up the hockey from the most part.
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[SPEAKER_00]: A little bit, yeah, a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I saw somebody who's like a die hearted WFAT in the discord as just saying like, where's all this starts tonight?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I mentioned one
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, staying.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And and Darby is the world champion.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's a gap, but M.J. F. Hangman Swerve.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're all very non collision.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I guess.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I guess.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But we got John Mox and juice Robinson.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I mean, not just screams collision.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sorry.
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[SPEAKER_00]: In a continental title, eliminate or match.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We had Renee doing sideline reporting before the thing crowds chanting for moxley even though I'm pretty sure he's a heal.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He was really weird at the beginning.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Just did a catapult spot and moxley like.
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[SPEAKER_00]: he sold it as unethetically as I've ever seen a catapult spot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was very weird.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I can't even really describe it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But Matt Scott, you know, Matt was okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was cheering for Excalibur at one point because he mentioned the puzzling situation with Will Osprey and the Death Riders.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, yes, because I keep saying that said, it was, oh, you're an idiot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You don't understand it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, well, you need to pay attention.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, no.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I, you know, last week when I didn't understand what's going on and people said, oh, you had to watch that video package on collision.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I did watch the video package on collision.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was no more, you know, that didn't help.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I still don't understand why will Osprey needs help from the death writers when his own tea beat them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't understand why Marina Shafir is fixing his neck when his wife was trying to kill Marina Shafir like a month ago.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't understand why he's just willingly going to train with these, you know, lunatics.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, you know, that tried to kill his friend and his mentor Brian Danielson, you know, like I, I don't understand any of it, and why won't you go to them for help and not not the United Empire.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Paul, you don't have to go into chat rooms during shows and stuff.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You really do.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, this is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I want, I do want to ask you something, Jeff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You sent me a message on the weekend.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe his Monday.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, asking me about continuity between New Japan and AW.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I have no idea what the hell you're talking about.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You said I would by the end of this dynamite.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I thought you might, but apparently, I guess on Drottie is now part of United Empire, he always has been.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Has he okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, well, because they don't because you're the answer to your question is sometimes it isn't sometimes it isn't He's he because he's also higher because he's all you know January's forth.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, because he's also a member of the Don call us family.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm just Well, how are we going to rectify that because he's okay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So here job he's holding his time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They just did a call his family promo, which
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[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, no, because he had no shirt on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[UNKNOWN]: So
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[SPEAKER_00]: So when this thing started, part of the deal was, oh, well, this is going to play into the AW storyline with the death riders against the cows family who were tuning at the time because Andrade joined the United Empire.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So United Empire is loosely affiliated with the cows family and the death riders are loosely affiliated with the war dogs or, you know, in New
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[SPEAKER_00]: And here what I thought you were going to talk about was, do you remember last week?
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, in the the promo that they did with the death writers and will ask for.
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[SPEAKER_00]: When he walks in and John says, are you clear yet?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And will says no.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He hangs his head.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then he says, I haven't matched this weekend.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Did you pan with my boys?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then tonight, you know, skipping ahead of it, they referenced the match, they didn't say what the match was, they said something about a title, and apparently will Osprey wrestled in Japan on the weekend, even though he's not clear to wrestle in a W.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And they did a promo with him and Doc Samson.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I believe I'm a Malaysian part.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, did Doc clear him now?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't listen to the promo.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Somebody mentioned it in the chat.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So if you know whether or not he's cleared now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm gonna say my favorite little thing about this juicer Robinson, Moxley Batch before we move on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't have much else to say about it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And it has nothing to do with the Batch.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Renee gets out there and goes,
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[SPEAKER_02]: I've, you know, I spoke to Juice Robinson backstage earlier, and he was just muttering to himself.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I beat John Moxley once I can do it again.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And when Juice comes out, walking down to the ring, all he's doing is muttering to himself, I beat John Moxley once I can do it again.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I loved this little just piece of cottonuddy, it made me laugh, I loved it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: For Thorc sums it up nicely.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Mox was a heal who's a coward who tapped out the Kyle Wau Riley, benefiting babyface who loves a W and then a diabolical heal who tried to kill Will.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he doesn't know that the that the rough or that the doctor did clear will then know then somewhat.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Thanks for clearing that up, John, John, John, actually one, he, he made a pass out with a with a bulldog choke, I believe, second time the match was fine bordering on good went too long and it's fine.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, yeah, that's a, that's a, that's a match that happened.
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[SPEAKER_00]: didn't he beat no that was a song beat got beaten by uh to catch it or not to catch that but O'Connor last week that's yeah yeah yeah I know there was no reason for this I think there's no reason for any of these matches for the most part other than the moment uh no that's our enormous capacity that one that had some bill to it uh okay the women's tag you could say the O'Connor match I literally had no idea it was happening until the two guys were in the ring
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then when it was over I have no idea why it happened and if I was Brian Keith, I wouldn't be answering my phone tomorrow.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Is the feeling I wouldn't have matches over.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Although he's an RLH staple, he's been winning.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Tony doesn't cut anybody, so I'm sure he's fine.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But if he was in WWE, I would be thrown my phone away if I was booked in that match.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So next up we got that segment.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So funny story here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: My wife was in the room and she's watching this and the first two people they focus on are Daniel Garcia and we were you to and my wife says, aren't those two guys a little small to be wrestlers?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Then she sees Wheeler doing his sit-ups on Will Osprey's neck, and she's watching this intently, and she's like, you know, I've heard that that exercise is really good for the neck for strengthening the neck.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, wow, why wife is picking up on the storyline better than I am.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She doesn't even watch this show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, I mean, and that was what was going on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So Garcia of all people cuts the problem with a start.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So he said, what did he said?
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[SPEAKER_00]: We had, you had a 15 hour plane ride.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You went and you won titles with your petty little friends in Japan, but it's us against the world.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And if you want to be the best version of yourself, you got to work for it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So let's get it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then they show Wheeler doing his sit-ups on Osprey's back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then he gets up and the Osprey's feeling his neck.
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[SPEAKER_00]: John Lotzig gets in his face.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And my wife says, like, why is he screaming at him?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, he's not screaming.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's just talking very loudly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he says, have you ever heard of the concept of death ground?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And Osprey's like, no.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he's like, well, it's standing on ground and you're foolish and you can't leave, no escape, no other options.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's do or die.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's where you're at right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So if we don't get your neck right, we don't get this right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's over.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're done.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Sure, you could still have a career get paid hang out like the rest of the poses in this company, but that's not what you want is it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Honestly, no, because you're not like all these people.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're different.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a privilege to be where you're at to come all this way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, this is the last 1% that you need to get through.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're on death ground.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's going to be hard, but it's the only good option.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Nothing else exists except what's right in front of you right now every second every minute.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then Pock just comes right into the frame and pushes the camera, man and way and he says, all right, that's enough.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that was that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I will say, this is probably the best of the segments that they've done.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I still don't like this angle, but at least I didn't come away from this one confused.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And if my wife could figure out what was going on here, then I guess they did a good story telling you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's the way I looked at it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But it's none of it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It needs more development on the offspring.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What is he getting out of this?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, yeah, and why?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, that's my question.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And why would he trust this guy?
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what I don't understand.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like, you know, and people are comparing it to Rocky 3.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, okay, so I missed the part of that movie where Apollo Creed was killing all of Rocky's friends and using a gang of thugs to win all his boxing matches.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, no, there's, you know, like, there's, yeah, turning to your rival for help.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, you, I can't remember the analogy you brought up, but whatever it was, it sounded better than that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, it was point break.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And a lot of people have made the point break analogy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, it's been a while since I saw that movie.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, good.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and I like being on the winning end of people's thoughts and furious was another one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think people.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, all all fast and furious is point break with cars and, and, you know, over 10 movies, you know, if it's about ranch, it's about family, Paul, if point break, if a point break had been made in the 2000s, we'd have had 10 point break movies by the way.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We need to find a way to let the bad guys live and then join the cops and then we'll find another bad guy who will live long enough, you live long enough, you live long enough,
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[SPEAKER_00]: to either die a hero or become a villain.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She's.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So next we got the Dax Harwood versus Orange Cacity, double jeopardy match.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What's the double jeopardy match you ask?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, if Dax Harwood wins, he and Cash and Champa get a shot at the conglomerations, world-true titles, and if Orange Cacity wins, two members of the conglomeration get a shot at FTR's tagging titles.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So the most interesting part of that, of course, be Dax Cache and Chomp are getting a shot at the trio's titles.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So of course, that's not what happened.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, question, why are all these other people down at rings?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And this is the first thing I wrote down.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's a million people at Riggs side, the dogs, Chompa, Cache, Stoke, the Bucks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think the rascals were there, the conglomeration.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, they weren't.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The conglomeration were there, RPG vice.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, why were all these people there?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I guess they're all tangently involved in various feuds surrounding these guys.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but the match was fine.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was a house show match.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was really a house show match.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was they were fucking around.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Dax was doing the hand in the hand.
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[SPEAKER_00]: pants spots and then dart you know orange did it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They kept it's funny because they should they kept showing the guys at ringside and the baby faces were cheering and the heels were trying to interfere and they did a couple times.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I finally got off a shot on the
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[SPEAKER_00]: on orange at one point and then someone else, you know, stoke distracted the rough wall.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Cat, Docs tried to cheat.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then, you know, you see the box all laughing and clapping and edge.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then every time they show a Christian, you just have to scow all this face with.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like he's never was out of character.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So eventually the orange Cassie hit the stung dog millionaire, then a Superman punch, but orange was selling his arm, I think, and DAX rolled out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Then DAX put on an arm bar, orange Cassie tried to roll out, DAX used up kicks, and then orange Cassie rolled them up and got the pin.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And the pin kind of came out of nowhere, but match was fine.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then after the bell rang, everyone got the ring,
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[SPEAKER_00]: They mentioned that the clung-glomeration will get a tag team title shot didn't say which two I assume it's going to be strong and all Riley and Of course since orange one and then ended up with RPG vise in the ring by themselves They guys fans are chanting you fucked up Rocky's pleading for mercy Copeland Pope them in the eye Then he hit a spear on Trent Christian look like he was going to hit a spear on Rocky and steady just kicked him in the nuts and That was that
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[SPEAKER_02]: Ah, you know what, I just, I just want the bell-the-ring on Christian and Cope versus FDR, Christian to instant quit and that everybody just beats down Cope.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That happens.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, people are going to lose their mind.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know that match has three stipulations?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a near hoping fight.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm hoping for New York Street Fighter and I quit match.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And if Christian and Cope lose, they can never team again.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And everyone said, oh, well, that means they have to win.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, not really, you know, they don't have to team again.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I think we all think they will.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think this, we figured this is heading to a three way at all in or perhaps a four way.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Perhaps a four way with with possibly one Austin Creed and Kofi, whatever his last name, the new dawn.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I believe Blether of brought this up.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So let's talk about it now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, the the the pay cut thing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, whether or not, you know, because everybody seems kind of excited about motor city machine guns and possible the new day coming into AEW.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And well, before before I knew about the new day, I thought we had we had we said, yeah, because they were in here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The I mean, they were already in AEW and money likesome.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I have no problem with that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I just want
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[SPEAKER_02]: see the problem is Tony allows a lot of creative freedom from the guys doing the creative.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And there's no one to look at anybody and go, you know what, let's try something completely 180 with you guys when you come in.
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[SPEAKER_02]: To prevent people doing like the new day rocks chant and other things like that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's think of a gimmick for you guys that is so off the beaten path for you to that'll be a complete reinvention.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's not going to be a reinvention.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's going to be them doing the new day with different names because they don't would give me the new dawn and it's going to be awesome, Creed and Kofi.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, he, he, that's his real first name so he can use it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, so probably just be coffee like it was Cody and I expect the team will be coffee and Austin Creed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it almost like you're saying it's coffee Creed, but it's not coffee Creed.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like they did with the roads.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I want them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I want Tony to show up some money for Nina Simone's feeling good for their theme song.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a new dawn.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a new day.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know what it is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it would fit their characters, and yeah, but yeah, so I think that's probably what we're heading to.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then where does that leave a more serious machine guns?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe they go in a New Japan, and then they get to work, you know, and or add or see MLL, and then they get to come in and just do spots here and there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And let's say this, their latest stuff that was mostly just for commercial breaks for international audiences was
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[SPEAKER_02]: basically got reborn as heels coming talking about the new day.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Where were like, oh, we're like,
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[SPEAKER_02]: I want to call him Austin Creed now, but you know, but where he was wearing funeral garb right over the tag team titles.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, he realized the WWE cut.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it was it was at least four and possibly five tag teams.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That has won the tag team titles in the last year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Motor City machine guns, new day, oil mist, yeah, gazing limits, and mostly, or did they say mostly of machine guns?
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[SPEAKER_02]: These are the machine machines here and we're running.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There was one other team.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Can't remember who, but maybe it was only three.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Out of the mud was, well, I don't know if they had the NXT title.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, they didn't, but I just think of them as a team.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, they're still there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a high ride.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, the MFT Cobb and Tangaloe.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, Cobb.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And they're going to, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So technically, technically, they were the champs.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, they were, you know, freebird rules.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But, um, but yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I mean, you know, that shows and they just had WrestleMania two nights, 13 matches, two sets of world tagging titles and neither one of them were defended on that show.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So that kind of tells you, does Jeff Cobb end up in AEW?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, Jeff and I, or I mean, Garrett and I talked about that last time to take down and I think it depends on whether it on he wants to.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, tomato left, but I don't think him and child.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think him and gargoyle had the belts in the last year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but yeah, like, um, I think I think he would be good in a w like he's different.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, you can find I think it's one of those things where it's like he's but he's been in before as the mercenary for Jericho as I recall.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, I mean, different various roles like, I mean, I think he's, I think he's just going to go back to Japan and be in the United Empire again, yeah, or feuding with them, one of the two, because they were baby faces when he left.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So they may, you know, and Kalam Newman seems to kind of want to distance himself from people that, you know, so I could see I could see him coming in as if he's going to join and then they turn on him and then he joins up with unbound company in the Japan, like the Yoda Sujiger, you know, you could see.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But back to back to the show we're covering.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, it's fine.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so then we got a video packet for Roosh and just, you know, it was a good little video packet to these had another one on draw to and just I got almost got to feel like Tony only had like maybe an hour and a half of material tonight and get the stretch, which sometimes makes for good like because I liked packages like this and then this video package right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't really know where they're going with Roosh, but a lot of video packages tonight, though.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, because like a lot of the promos were pre-tapes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Wow.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Interesting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Wow.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And nothing wrong with it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll bet you people weren't complaining.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I bet the quality control is better.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And actually, then the next thing we got, and you almost never get this on a W. Like, I honestly can't think of any time they've ever done this, and it was only like 15 seconds.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They literally replayed the Chris Jericho segment from last week, like not in a video bag, they literally just replayed it because I was like, I'm watching this and I'm like, wait a second, this is exactly what they aired last week.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The thing with Renee and where he got attacked by the demand, then they cut to a live segment and he's effin furious.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The time for talking is done, words are over.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's time to fight, but unlike the demand, I don't want to fight backstage.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to take it out there to the people.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So he goes out there and how are you, South Carolina?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Get up, come on and fans are training Y2J, which is like, you haven't been Y2J in about 15 years.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And they says, I'm going to keep this very simple because this is Charleston.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is a W Dynamite and I am Jericho and I've done with three on one beat downs and I'm done with the attacks from behind on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm done with all this bullshit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So Rick Shambha asks, I'm going to demand that you come out here and talk to me face to face one on one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Man to man right here right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, I don't know if this was on purpose, but he literally just said, the time for talking is done, I want to fight and then here he said, I want you to come out here and talk to me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, Jericho's not an idiot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that was on purpose, even though it sounds completely stupid, I think he's a disingenuous prick.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's for 10 years.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, baby face.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This has been our thesis since then.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I mean, the longer it goes, I'm wondering, or maybe the fans haven't figured it out, and they think he's a baby face.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So anyways, outcomes rickshay and the gates of agony are behind them, and Towa, shoved Jericho while he was trying to get ricksham Mike, and then he gives hands to the Mike's his Jericho look.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Try to do a favor by telling you to leave, but you wouldn't listen.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure that you and every simple minded person out there in Charleston, think it's funny that you trademark that stupid phrase every week that you show up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And Jericho says, I can't hear a damn word you're saying, because these people are balloons a lot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And they were balloon pretty loud.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He says, I don't know if you have a mutilation fetage, but we can make this a reality in front of these overweight mouthbreeding hillbillies in North Carolina.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He says, if I'm being honest, I'm getting tired of bored of it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But if we do this one-on-one, what do we get out of it?
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[SPEAKER_00]: What does the man get out of this Jericho?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then Conwisper's something to him and Rick Shade likes it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He says Jericho, six years ago, you created your own match.
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[SPEAKER_00]: A match that shaped a double or nothing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: In a stadium that's named after an American icon, Louis Armstrong, I'm going to give you a losing record in your very own match.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then he starts arguing with someone in the fans.
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[SPEAKER_00]: trying to get them to come up fight.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he says, but Jericho, back to you, this time, I won't just beat you with your own move, the line salt, which is now the Rico salt.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to beat you in a stadium stamp heed match.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then Jericho says, or no, he says, that's a great idea.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But the only problem is, last time we faced each other, you have to pay people to watch your back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not sure you're going to be able to find four of the partners, because here in AWS, nobody, this is my company and nobody likes your ass.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then Jericho says, first of all, you stupid son of a bitch, there's a South Carolina and everybody cheers.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then Rick says the same thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's not wrong.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Wow.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let me, let me get this straight.
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[SPEAKER_00]: you want a stadium match at double or nothing, stadium stamp heat.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, tell you this, Rick Shay, you're on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm sure there's somebody here that likes me, but even if I can't find four partners, I'll take on and all of you by myself, bald, then he punches him with the mic, and then he fights off gates of agony by himself.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a Judas effect on Rick Shay, and he ends it, but he's stuck around a little bit too long, and then he ends up getting, you know, tag, beat up three on one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: hurts syndicate comes out and makes the save.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was positive they were going to attack Jericho and they would enjoy the heel game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because Rick is he needs two partners, too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But no, apparently he is partners with them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So now it's three on three and the next couple weeks will be both teams trying to find two more partners.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think I know who's going to be on the baby face side.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Possibly.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Sammy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I was thinking Sammy and Dustin.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Dustin apparently is close right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean send it to the heel right now and he's part of L of five, but who cares?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then on the heel side, it will be something like, you know, the dogs or something like that, or oh, no, no, no, no, no big Bill and Brian Keith, I'll take that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'd love that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean because they want to get their hands on Jericho, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I get russian here, my russian on Dorada.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe russian, Sammy on the baby face side.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's not a baby face, it doesn't matter if he is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He cuts his promo as the fans chant, they cut y'all like, he's a baby face to us.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's a baby face goes fans.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They chant, like, you get hurt.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, Howard.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, I'm here for the, I am here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If Roosh is on the baby face, I know you don't have, because you have Roosh, Lashley, and Benjamin.
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[SPEAKER_02]: My god, who would want to fight?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like and then they all attack Jericho after the match sure why not, but Sammy had the most memorable moment of the first state of Sam Pied match Oh, yeah, oh, yeah, I think it's got to be Sammy at least and you know what he is a heel, but nobody watches our way to it Doesn't say okay, how about Sammy and oh Wait a second how about okay, maybe Sammy I was thinking Sammy and Ortiz, but could also be like eight or Kingston or Ortiz That's what I was saying yeah, yeah, I mean that yeah, there's there's definitely worse ideas than that
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, so they go to the back and by the way, let me point out my wife was gone by now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank God.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, so we go to the back with Renee Mina and Harley.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, Harley is dressed in a t-shirt and okay, this is a beautiful woman.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, if you didn't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And she was looking in just as her.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Hi, Jeff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It is a beautiful beautiful woman.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And she was looking, trying to look as unbeautiful as possible, but she, it's impossible for her not to look beautiful, but she looked from me or as from me as Harley camera can look.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She's dressed in a t-shirt, it's a long t-shirt.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And she's just, she's been kind of depressed ever since you're tagging with Willow broke up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so she, she said she doesn't know how to feel.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then Mina cuts this promo to get her fired up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She says, wake up!
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[SPEAKER_00]: What's it comes down to us and stat?
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Can you trust stat?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I hope so.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But we have a match to win.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And Harley, you're one of the first ever tag team champions.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So stop looking out there, look in here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And she ran off for a shirt, and her bra is there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And their tits are spilling out of it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And she's like, Shita, stat.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The wrath is back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And tonight you're going to feel it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And Renee, his library lasted, and she says, you're in for a hell of a match, but you gotta go put something on, and they leave.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And this is something else.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Boobs of wrath, of boobs of wrath.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That should be their team name.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought it was going to be at first.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the timeless love boobs are rough.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, uh, and uh, watching Mina struggle with the English language.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, you know what?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I understood everywhere she said.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I did do, I just, I, let's just move on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, so they did
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[SPEAKER_00]: of the card.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I looked at a rundown of the show before I started to do the preview for this show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: hardly spent great money her words by the way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I remember that I remember that promo.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I do not recall a match being announced of Cuzusco caught in Brian Keith.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Was this a stand-by match?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Did they say that?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I got literally asking.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Does anybody know?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Or was your stand-by, but okay, and I believe it was a title match, but I'm not sure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They did put up like international championship before the match.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it might have been a title match, it doesn't matter.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This was your typical little caught match except like a lot of times you get a caught at like 50% or charitably less than 50.
53:27.489 --> 53:28.991
[SPEAKER_00]: This was maybe 20.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He put for no effort in this match.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Brian Keith did, but didn't get much time.
53:37.380 --> 53:40.003
[SPEAKER_00]: And a caught up like.
53:40.439 --> 53:46.409
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, how he always does the thing where he teases the rainmaker and then he flips off the fans and he hits the semi just hit the rainmaker.
53:46.429 --> 53:54.402
[SPEAKER_00]: Ben, Ben, Brian Keith and Brian Keith was flattened his back like, and then he was there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he's lying there while they did the promo like, they, you know, I mean, yeah, he's an R wage guy now, but man, they buried this guy somewhere fierce.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, Swarves doing is a gimmick.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So true, true, yeah, the most wanted by the bounty hunter.
54:09.146 --> 54:12.470
[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, it was all basically just like almost a squash.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I mean, Brian, keep got some offense in.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But, and I know, caught a bit of a problem.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Where is Big Bill, by the way?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was asking that myself, too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like he wasn't at ringside, who knows?
54:26.208 --> 54:31.675
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe he's hurt, maybe he's injured, or maybe he's just contracts up, like who knows?
54:31.756 --> 54:34.421
[SPEAKER_00]: But I like that team and I do too.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I like their personality.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I like their promos.
54:36.986 --> 54:39.451
[SPEAKER_00]: I think they have a new name, too, and I can't remember what it is.
54:39.591 --> 54:41.976
[SPEAKER_00]: But like they're not the learning tree anymore.
54:41.996 --> 54:45.763
[SPEAKER_00]: They gave them a different name, but maybe some of the chat remembers their name.
54:45.803 --> 54:48.007
[SPEAKER_00]: But he did, oh, kind of did a promo.
54:48.027 --> 54:50.372
[SPEAKER_00]: He said he doesn't like the cash, he wants more.
54:50.873 --> 54:53.578
[SPEAKER_00]: He's coming for the AWS World Title, bitch.
54:53.558 --> 54:58.553
[SPEAKER_00]: And I wrote, oh, maybe that's Darby's match next week and I guess we found out collision that it is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So kind of random out of nowhere.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Another one of these.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure matches that Darby had on his list of people he wants to wrestle and you know, he's gone through the Pacific Northwest guys and now he's moving on to, you know, probably make you an actual upper tier feud, which is good for a champion.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now he's not going to win it clean because Takesh is going to do something and do we get, do we get the how close to 100% old codder do we get in this title match next week?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh,
55:29.806 --> 55:34.796
[SPEAKER_02]: More in motivated than usual, but not motivated in paperview terms.
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[SPEAKER_02]: 60% maybe.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I want to go, let's go with 65.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's go with the gentleman 65.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I work pretty close then.
55:43.745 --> 56:12.520
[SPEAKER_00]: uh... then we got the uh... on draw a little a little package those pretty good calls himself the best of us can rest their live they focused on the women that were rinks i watching matches this would be even better if he had lost his last two matches or if they had mentioned that he won a title on the weekend uh... which they didn't uh... apparently you said they did on collision so that's fine we know that about a third of the audience is going to tune out before collision starts so uh... then we got
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[SPEAKER_00]: Kevin Knight was speedball.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Tonight, the TNT champion becomes jet two belts.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Time for you to prove your rising star, but you're way up there shining bright.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Kevin Knight says, I like the way that sounds.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I appreciate you, Darby Allen for being a fighting champion.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You said you're fighting till your body will give up.
56:36.473 --> 56:42.962
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, tonight, that's what's going to happen when you step
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[SPEAKER_00]: This was the least convincing promo.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think I may have ever heard for somebody going into a world title match.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, when they say that's the least you could do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There we go.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There we go.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There we go.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There we go.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There we go.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There we go.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There we go.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There we go.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There we go.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There we go.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There we go.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There we go.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There we go.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There we go.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There we go.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There we go.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There we go.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There we go.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There we go.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There we go.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There we go.
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[SPEAKER_02]: hangman could have done it.
57:24.560 --> 57:26.426
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you guys as a team.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, yeah, he's a partner, isn't he?
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[SPEAKER_00]: What was their name?
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[SPEAKER_00]: hung hung hung like a beast or something.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What was their name?
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[SPEAKER_01]: uh oh god it was terrible yeah it was something with hung right cowboy speed I thought I was a little bit no no no no no no no no no no it was it was like some sort of a sexual reference jet ship yeah nobody will uh
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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you, John.
57:57.150 --> 58:01.737
[SPEAKER_00]: John says I had more crews of an excitement and re-capping than that promo with then both feedball and jet did.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought my Mike Bailey was spot on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's the problem.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I did have more motion than he did, unfortunately.
58:11.611 --> 58:12.812
[SPEAKER_00]: Then we got an opt promo.
58:12.992 --> 58:17.278
[SPEAKER_00]: As I said earlier, maybe it was on, maybe it was when we were talking before the show I can't remember.
58:17.679 --> 58:19.101
[SPEAKER_00]: But best thing on the show.
58:19.582 --> 58:19.862
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
58:20.323 --> 58:22.265
[SPEAKER_00]: And I like, I like the main event a lot.
58:22.866 --> 58:24.128
[SPEAKER_00]: But
58:24.395 --> 58:34.270
[SPEAKER_00]: Joe says he's got Boeing's a Chobada with him and I thought hope might be filming, but no, it was somebody else, but Chobada wanted to film and then Joe's like, no, just let the guy do his job.
58:34.951 --> 58:39.498
[SPEAKER_02]: And he says he's he's Union, you know what I mess with those guys.
58:40.139 --> 58:43.804
[SPEAKER_00]: It's as well, ladies and gentlemen, it is I and I'm joined by the ops.
58:44.223 --> 58:48.348
[SPEAKER_00]: Now last week I put out an offer and sadly it's not being heard.
58:48.428 --> 58:53.254
[SPEAKER_00]: So will Osprey please hear these words and allow me to explain myself in a non-intimidating manner.
58:54.075 --> 58:56.058
[SPEAKER_00]: John Moxley is telling you how to think.
58:57.059 --> 58:59.042
[SPEAKER_00]: Will you think however you want to think?
58:59.622 --> 59:03.808
[SPEAKER_00]: William, I see the momentum, I see the tide rising.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You are destined for greatness.
59:06.251 --> 59:08.133
[SPEAKER_00]: Some say you will be the next world champion.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But how much of you will be left to remain champion?
59:11.881 --> 59:16.166
[SPEAKER_00]: with men like us at your side William, that could be a very long time.
59:16.887 --> 59:19.891
[SPEAKER_00]: Now you may say to yourself, what advantages are there to this?
59:21.132 --> 59:21.713
[SPEAKER_00]: Look at Hook.
59:22.414 --> 59:25.978
[SPEAKER_00]: He lost his type chance to become the champion of television last week.
59:26.018 --> 59:27.060
[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't punish that man.
59:27.841 --> 59:29.002
[SPEAKER_00]: He's off filming a movie.
59:29.142 --> 59:30.864
[SPEAKER_00]: I put him in a better position to success.
59:30.924 --> 59:33.147
[SPEAKER_00]: Put it in a few words for him with my context.
59:33.498 --> 59:34.700
[SPEAKER_00]: That's what I want to do for you.
59:35.401 --> 59:41.811
[SPEAKER_00]: Anthony Bowens, long time one of the most under-appreciated talents in AWS, now he's got an opportunity to succeed.
59:42.773 --> 59:50.485
[SPEAKER_00]: Katsuya or Shabata, know where else in the world can he be what he is and that's the wrestler than with the ops right here right now.
59:51.246 --> 59:53.470
[SPEAKER_00]: Will, choices is clear as day.
59:54.031 --> 59:56.134
[SPEAKER_00]: Swap put my hand out to you one last time.
59:57.216 --> 01:00:00.501
[SPEAKER_00]: But if it's not accepted next time, I'm putting out my fist.
01:00:02.101 --> 01:00:06.166
[SPEAKER_00]: I freaking love this, and Will should join the office.
01:00:06.186 --> 01:00:07.027
[SPEAKER_00]: He's not good.
01:00:07.287 --> 01:00:11.492
[SPEAKER_00]: He's going to be fighting Joe at Double or Nothing is the conclusion to come to.
01:00:12.013 --> 01:00:13.134
[SPEAKER_00]: But that's not what I want.
01:00:14.676 --> 01:00:16.398
[SPEAKER_00]: I want to know who booked hook in a movie.
01:00:17.459 --> 01:00:18.300
[SPEAKER_00]: Joe, he told you.
01:00:19.021 --> 01:00:24.067
[SPEAKER_00]: No, by me, and like, no, it's probably that movie he was filming before, and he probably had to go do recuts or whatever.
01:00:24.127 --> 01:00:25.428
[SPEAKER_02]: He was filming a movie?
01:00:25.729 --> 01:00:27.771
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, I can.
01:00:28.207 --> 01:00:30.910
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like a low budget when his girlfriend's an actress, I think.
01:00:32.472 --> 01:00:41.183
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I can't remember what it was, but yeah, he was off for like three months, like last year at some point knew it was, it wasn't, he wasn't injured.
01:00:41.203 --> 01:00:41.884
[SPEAKER_00]: He was filming a movie.
01:00:42.205 --> 01:00:44.528
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah.
01:00:44.648 --> 01:00:46.650
[SPEAKER_00]: Curry had John, John Cales had Osprey.
01:00:46.690 --> 01:00:47.491
[SPEAKER_00]: He fired him.
01:00:48.232 --> 01:00:48.713
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
01:00:48.862 --> 01:00:50.304
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
01:00:50.544 --> 01:00:56.731
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, I I love that promo and I he's an idiot if he doesn't accept and I guess he's maybe because he's not going to accept.
01:00:57.352 --> 01:00:59.094
[SPEAKER_02]: Joe just makes everything so real.
01:00:59.174 --> 01:01:03.279
[SPEAKER_00]: I love Joe is a reasonable person who backs up his words.
01:01:03.339 --> 01:01:07.083
[SPEAKER_00]: Moxie is a raving lunatic who attacks people at random.
01:01:07.584 --> 01:01:09.927
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, which which team would I want to be on?
01:01:09.947 --> 01:01:10.988
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm joining the ops.
01:01:12.166 --> 01:01:17.416
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, so maybe we got mean and Harley versus Chris and Shida this match.
01:01:17.536 --> 01:01:21.483
[SPEAKER_00]: Actually, it was pretty good at the start and then at some point it just kind of fell apart.
01:01:22.485 --> 01:01:24.108
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, it's weird.
01:01:24.148 --> 01:01:24.810
[SPEAKER_00]: This weekend.
01:01:24.830 --> 01:01:30.360
[SPEAKER_00]: They announced so collision just finished right and and so they had an hour collision tonight.
01:01:30.340 --> 01:01:36.271
[SPEAKER_00]: But apparently they're having a live show on Saturday and I think it's only one hour, which is weird.
01:01:36.291 --> 01:01:41.581
[SPEAKER_00]: Like they're doing it's like fighting at the fairway to hell.
01:01:42.022 --> 01:01:42.643
[SPEAKER_00]: Fairway to hell.
01:01:43.104 --> 01:01:43.725
[SPEAKER_00]: One hour.
01:01:44.127 --> 01:01:44.548
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
01:01:45.089 --> 01:01:45.329
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
01:01:45.991 --> 01:01:46.271
[SPEAKER_00]: Weird.
01:01:46.291 --> 01:01:51.301
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, they're probably taping some ring of honor stuff or something, but anyways, they went through a break.
01:01:52.924 --> 01:01:57.453
[SPEAKER_00]: Mina was wrestling most of the time and eventually, like said, it fell apart.
01:01:58.776 --> 01:02:03.605
[SPEAKER_00]: Then so, stat gave some Mina superplex.
01:02:03.625 --> 01:02:06.591
[SPEAKER_00]: Then a falcon arrow got a two count no reaction.
01:02:06.571 --> 01:02:20.007
[SPEAKER_00]: She to accidentally hit that line over the knee, then she hit, then she gets hit with a back fist by Mina, Harley tagged in, she's hitting four arms, then she hit a neckbreaker on Shea rolled her up for two.
01:02:20.223 --> 01:02:22.426
[SPEAKER_00]: Harley hit a roundhouse in the back staver.
01:02:22.907 --> 01:02:25.710
[SPEAKER_00]: Then she went for its her finish, but stat made the save.
01:02:26.832 --> 01:02:28.294
[SPEAKER_00]: Then she got in she just faced.
01:02:28.714 --> 01:02:31.277
[SPEAKER_00]: Then she just picked Harley up, hit a falcon arrow, got the pin.
01:02:31.778 --> 01:02:34.061
[SPEAKER_00]: She's celebrating stats mad and she leaves.
01:02:34.462 --> 01:02:42.492
[SPEAKER_00]: And at one point like she'd a like, wait to go and she's slaps her on the chest and and stats.
01:02:42.512 --> 01:02:44.695
[SPEAKER_00]: She walks it with weird.
01:02:45.653 --> 01:02:46.114
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
01:02:46.134 --> 01:02:47.375
[SPEAKER_00]: I have no idea what's going on here.
01:02:48.196 --> 01:02:52.542
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, they're eventually going to feud with each other or stats going to turn here.
01:02:52.562 --> 01:02:53.083
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, one of the two.
01:02:53.904 --> 01:02:55.026
[SPEAKER_00]: It's who cares.
01:02:55.887 --> 01:02:57.830
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, that's the bigger issue here.
01:02:58.010 --> 01:03:05.100
[SPEAKER_00]: That's why it's amazing how how much of a tumble this women's division has taken in the last month, ever since we got it.
01:03:05.120 --> 01:03:08.044
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I can drop a who would tell who killed Tony storyline.
01:03:08.064 --> 01:03:09.045
[SPEAKER_00]: That's dead, right?
01:03:09.987 --> 01:03:12.250
[SPEAKER_02]: No, they're just going to save the reveal or whatever.
01:03:12.290 --> 01:03:17.135
[SPEAKER_02]: But like I said, if they signed Kaylee Race, he's the second best person in this division tomorrow.
01:03:17.896 --> 01:03:18.457
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
01:03:18.537 --> 01:03:21.340
[SPEAKER_00]: And yet Tony or Dave won't shut up about Zoe Stark.
01:03:23.062 --> 01:03:25.885
[SPEAKER_00]: So he has potential, but I still, yeah, I mean, it's always fine.
01:03:25.925 --> 01:03:30.410
[SPEAKER_02]: But Kaylee and Kaylee are the two people that AEW could use most.
01:03:30.991 --> 01:03:32.212
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, Kyrie, yeah, yeah.
01:03:32.593 --> 01:03:34.695
[SPEAKER_00]: I think Kyrie's going to end up back in WWE.
01:03:34.760 --> 01:04:00.598
[SPEAKER_00]: I think she's going to end up back for this paper view and then she's gone could be could be yeah because I was surprised I'm finally I finally watched the raw right after got cut where like the fans were like Channing, you know cut for Kyrie and they couldn't mute it.
01:04:01.085 --> 01:04:26.755
[SPEAKER_00]: And he says two months ago, I told everyone I was after power, very few understand what it truly means, real power means deciding who eats and who stars and no one will stop and make sure the whole world sees it from the most dangerous to the most violent to the most wanted and then he holds at the vendito poster more power means more fear more control and there's nothing more dangerous that a man who desires power and I want it all.
01:04:27.224 --> 01:04:34.813
[SPEAKER_02]: This was very mid this was as I'm sorry, yeah, it's Jeff Jarrett talking about stroke.
01:04:35.114 --> 01:04:41.442
[SPEAKER_02]: That's that's what it and it's like, again, it's like, okay, what power do you get out of beating Bandito.
01:04:41.462 --> 01:04:50.633
[SPEAKER_00]: I think over our way, yeah, like, and they've never once mentioned our wage or his title, so I don't think it's that right, yeah.
01:04:50.950 --> 01:04:58.319
[SPEAKER_02]: It's one of those esoteric promos that sounds good in the theory when you pitch it and then you realize that this makes no sense in a wrestling world.
01:04:59.480 --> 01:05:10.333
[SPEAKER_00]: And then the next segment is Renee with Brodito and and then Brody bandito says Renee, you know, Swerv is right I am the most wanted if you want me swear if I'm easy to find.
01:05:11.034 --> 01:05:18.763
[SPEAKER_00]: And then Brody says you know bandito I know you got this to yourself, Swerv it's one thing to mess with me, but if you mess with my friends they'll be held to pay.
01:05:19.908 --> 01:05:23.376
[SPEAKER_00]: And again, this was like, oh, we got 30 seconds.
01:05:23.436 --> 01:05:25.159
[SPEAKER_00]: Real, you guys were going to a problem.
01:05:25.240 --> 01:05:26.382
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we forgot the bark at the end.
01:05:26.402 --> 01:05:30.451
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, they did some weird thing where they, they were trying to get some catchphrase going.
01:05:30.732 --> 01:05:31.694
[SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't just woof.
01:05:31.754 --> 01:05:37.326
[SPEAKER_00]: It was a few things that they didn't, I just didn't even bother writing it down because I don't think it's going to take.
01:05:37.711 --> 01:05:43.599
[SPEAKER_00]: Then we got the main event, and this was, I mean, another wild Derby title defense.
01:05:44.620 --> 01:05:50.328
[SPEAKER_00]: Crowdheat was mixed, like they were at times they were super hot, and at other times they were like there was nobody there.
01:05:51.890 --> 01:05:59.140
[SPEAKER_00]: Shavani mentioned this the first time anyone's ever defended the W World title in three consecutive weeks, and I guess it will be four next week.
01:06:00.041 --> 01:06:06.790
[SPEAKER_00]: They went through a break, they came back with four minutes left in the scheduled time, and then the match kind of went nuts.
01:06:06.770 --> 01:06:13.139
[SPEAKER_00]: So Darby hit a dive on the night on the outside, hit the back of his head on the announced that's pretty hard.
01:06:13.179 --> 01:06:14.220
[SPEAKER_00]: That was night that did that.
01:06:14.961 --> 01:06:16.543
[SPEAKER_00]: Then he head by the night into a chair.
01:06:17.104 --> 01:06:28.379
[SPEAKER_00]: He was about to dive on him and then Kevin night got up, toss a chair away, jumps up to the top rope, hits Darby with a rana to the outside.
01:06:28.900 --> 01:06:32.845
[SPEAKER_00]: Darby takes a bump to the floor from the top turn buckle,
01:06:33.213 --> 01:06:35.337
[SPEAKER_00]: And the announcers don't barely even mention it.
01:06:35.958 --> 01:06:54.510
[SPEAKER_00]: And then immediately they go to the next spot, which is Darby on the announced desk, and Kevin Knight does this freaking wild dive with a, like, I guess it was supposed to be a close line, but somehow, like, it was like a freaking car crash, they both somehow ended up under the desk.
01:06:54.670 --> 01:06:56.233
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't even know how,
01:06:56.213 --> 01:07:01.639
[SPEAKER_00]: And God, they, they look like they both died, but they both got back in the ring fairly quickly.
01:07:01.759 --> 01:07:07.706
[SPEAKER_00]: Knight was selling his knee at this point, and I was wondering if he was really hurt, but I think it was just part of the story of the match.
01:07:07.726 --> 01:07:10.289
[SPEAKER_00]: And then he didn't die from the second rope, but he missed.
01:07:10.649 --> 01:07:12.391
[SPEAKER_00]: Darby put it on the scorpion deathlock.
01:07:12.952 --> 01:07:14.193
[SPEAKER_00]: Knight made the ropes broken up.
01:07:14.594 --> 01:07:16.436
[SPEAKER_00]: Darby at this point is also selling his leg.
01:07:16.816 --> 01:07:21.782
[SPEAKER_00]: Goes to the top rope and he going for a coffin drop, but Darby or Knight got his knees up.
01:07:22.117 --> 01:07:45.897
[SPEAKER_00]: And then he starts selling them even more, puts Darby on on the top turn buckle, but Darby powered out with punches knocked him off went for a coffin drop again, but Dar, Kevin night knocked him off and that at this point he's in a tree of woe, night does a coast to coast drop kick, then he hits the UFO splash, but again, he's selling his knee and he can't make the cover, and that's when I realized, okay, he's probably not hurt because that's clearly part of the story of the match.
01:07:45.877 --> 01:07:52.117
[SPEAKER_00]: And then he finally covered him, but Darby rolled out, and immediately the crowd didn't really even react.
01:07:52.218 --> 01:07:59.481
[SPEAKER_00]: Then we got a light Darby chant, and then he rolled them over, went to the corner again, but Darby crawled away this time, so he's kind of getting desperate.
01:07:59.933 --> 01:08:06.780
[SPEAKER_00]: And then Darby kicked him in the knee, put on a guillotine, and then night got up, and then he collapsed to the man.
01:08:06.820 --> 01:08:11.684
[SPEAKER_00]: I thought, Oh, man, he's going to collapse just like juice Robinson didn't the opener, but he won't go out.
01:08:11.765 --> 01:08:15.128
[SPEAKER_00]: Then he finally gets up again, Darby wrenched his arm against the ropes.
01:08:15.188 --> 01:08:28.641
[SPEAKER_00]: Then he put on a bulldog choke left him draped against the ropes, hit a coffin drop night falls in the middle of the ring.
01:08:30.157 --> 01:08:32.219
[SPEAKER_00]: So I, you know, pretty good back.
01:08:32.659 --> 01:08:35.442
[SPEAKER_00]: Probably the weakest of the three, but still like really damn good.
01:08:36.002 --> 01:08:38.605
[SPEAKER_00]: Like I'm not, I'm no much the match was good.
01:08:38.625 --> 01:08:47.193
[SPEAKER_02]: I think my personal predilection is I just want to take the guys in the back.
01:08:47.873 --> 01:08:54.159
[SPEAKER_02]: I want to take these two, especially because of their status as maybe not the guy, but the guy with the world title.
01:08:55.961 --> 01:08:59.404
[SPEAKER_02]: And Kevin night, especially on this end and go.
01:08:59.485 --> 01:09:07.733
[SPEAKER_02]: All right, you need to imagine, what if this is your only shot at a world championship in real life?
01:09:08.494 --> 01:09:10.376
[SPEAKER_02]: How are you going to react out there?
01:09:10.416 --> 01:09:13.058
[SPEAKER_02]: What kind of emotion are you bringing to this match?
01:09:13.619 --> 01:09:16.522
[SPEAKER_02]: Because that's what it was missing for me was emotion.
01:09:16.722 --> 01:09:20.606
[SPEAKER_02]: If the wrestling was fine, it was nice, the near falls were good.
01:09:20.626 --> 01:09:27.973
[SPEAKER_02]: I want to see that sense of desperation out of a guy at the level of
01:09:28.561 --> 01:09:30.345
[SPEAKER_02]: in the biggest match of his career.
01:09:30.546 --> 01:09:32.992
[SPEAKER_02]: I want it to feel like the biggest match of his career.
01:09:33.894 --> 01:09:37.102
[SPEAKER_02]: And I don't get that any just wrestle for the world title like a month ago.
01:09:37.784 --> 01:09:38.586
[SPEAKER_00]: I guess I'm Japh.
01:09:38.606 --> 01:09:38.706
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
01:09:39.047 --> 01:09:39.548
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
01:09:39.568 --> 01:09:41.413
[SPEAKER_00]: So, but yeah, it was not.
01:09:41.433 --> 01:09:42.315
[SPEAKER_02]: And it was the same thing.
01:09:42.496 --> 01:09:44.400
[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, I just, it's wonderful.
01:09:44.421 --> 01:09:45.844
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, yeah, okay.
01:09:46.145 --> 01:10:01.723
[SPEAKER_00]: look at this way mjf is a much quote unquote better wrestler in kfab so to speak you know our story of this match could have been and he now just could have told this he lost him on the go if he leaves it again tonight he may not have been out of another like yes years
01:10:02.598 --> 01:10:08.587
[SPEAKER_02]: Or maybe Darby being injured isn't at the level of max at full strength.
01:10:08.607 --> 01:10:08.987
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
01:10:09.308 --> 01:10:10.469
[SPEAKER_00]: He did very well.
01:10:10.790 --> 01:10:10.970
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
01:10:10.990 --> 01:10:11.311
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
01:10:11.691 --> 01:10:15.537
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what that second tier of commitment in it.
01:10:15.577 --> 01:10:16.278
[SPEAKER_02]: And I wasn't getting it.
01:10:16.338 --> 01:10:17.279
[SPEAKER_02]: It was a fine match.
01:10:17.680 --> 01:10:20.604
[SPEAKER_02]: It was a good super indie style type match.
01:10:20.684 --> 01:10:21.325
[SPEAKER_02]: It was fine.
01:10:21.345 --> 01:10:21.445
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
01:10:21.706 --> 01:10:22.207
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it was.
01:10:22.307 --> 01:10:22.707
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
01:10:22.727 --> 01:10:23.769
[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, I agree with all that.
01:10:24.610 --> 01:10:28.015
[SPEAKER_00]: And I did, you know, it just occurred to me.
01:10:29.227 --> 01:10:31.531
[SPEAKER_00]: It's possible, O'Cotta could win the title next week.
01:10:31.992 --> 01:10:37.963
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, because at some point, the story is going to be that Derby's body gave out.
01:10:37.983 --> 01:10:43.753
[SPEAKER_00]: And if O'Cotta won the title, then they could catch the matches for the world title.
01:10:43.793 --> 01:10:51.066
[SPEAKER_00]: No, that to catch the match is for the national title, not the world title, to catch the wins.
01:10:51.670 --> 01:11:03.263
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so Cotta is still the world champion and the match we're building to at at all the sudden is now Ocotta versus Osprey, which is a fricking massive match.
01:11:05.085 --> 01:11:06.266
[SPEAKER_02]: All right, I'll take that.
01:11:06.867 --> 01:11:15.737
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think nobody has that on their bingo card, but no, but I don't think they're also not going to do that in the middle of their quote unquote play off programming.
01:11:16.848 --> 01:11:19.372
[SPEAKER_00]: that you know what that may be a very good point.
01:11:20.274 --> 01:11:24.761
[SPEAKER_00]: Because these ratings, I should also, we haven't really talked about it, but they're getting worse every week.
01:11:25.102 --> 01:11:38.704
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, part of it, I think is, I think Nielsen said another change in the way they're figuring out the ratings, but you know, between the ratings and the ticket sales and, you know, the early returns on the
01:11:38.684 --> 01:11:41.229
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, they're they're they're they're not positive.
01:11:41.609 --> 01:11:45.196
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not necessarily saying they're negative because there's you know, there's the playoffs.
01:11:45.256 --> 01:11:55.374
[SPEAKER_00]: They're there may be the the method all these changing and everything, but I don't think there's anything to suggest that it's a business positive, but Paul, we don't have the numbers for the streaming on HBO Max.
01:11:55.494 --> 01:11:58.600
[SPEAKER_00]: No, we don't, but you know what else is also streaming on HBO Max.
01:11:58.580 --> 01:12:09.554
[SPEAKER_02]: God, I'm sorry, but I set the rating stock and listening to Dave talk about how like 50% of the viewers are on HBO Max.
01:12:09.574 --> 01:12:12.517
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just the fact there was a fraction battle between two guys.
01:12:12.557 --> 01:12:26.595
[SPEAKER_02]: Like it's slightly less and it was like It was like two thirds versus slightly less and two thirds versus one half and I had to write on the board Yes, three six is slightly less and four six
01:12:27.622 --> 01:12:28.824
[SPEAKER_02]: Chico's right.
01:12:30.047 --> 01:12:33.012
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't I don't really buy that, but I could be unique.
01:12:33.072 --> 01:12:37.301
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think there are 200,000 people watching on HBO Max every week.
01:12:37.361 --> 01:12:37.962
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sorry.
01:12:38.242 --> 01:12:42.951
[SPEAKER_02]: I can't get for the problem is is isn't the initial class also wearing on HBO Max?
01:12:42.971 --> 01:12:44.194
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, live.
01:12:44.595 --> 01:12:44.995
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
01:12:45.015 --> 01:12:45.797
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
01:12:45.817 --> 01:12:45.917
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
01:12:45.897 --> 01:13:04.314
[SPEAKER_00]: So what we don't know and it doesn't matter what we think what matters is what's happening and and they have the numbers I think so we know the step so I mean we talked about what is oh yeah it was so so the step of anyone watched us and didn't watch collision mjf's put up his hair.
01:13:04.674 --> 01:13:12.782
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you know, I don't I was hoping for something more interesting than that.
01:13:13.437 --> 01:13:17.025
[SPEAKER_00]: I guess that leaves you know what the one positive I'll say about that snippet.
01:13:17.045 --> 01:13:20.553
[SPEAKER_00]: It's it's so lame that you could see either way happening.
01:13:21.054 --> 01:13:23.019
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, we have what they do with you.
01:13:23.039 --> 01:13:23.841
[SPEAKER_02]: No, yeah.
01:13:23.921 --> 01:13:24.883
[SPEAKER_02]: M. J. F. K. Shave his head.
01:13:24.903 --> 01:13:27.128
[SPEAKER_02]: It'll be like every other AEW shave head.
01:13:27.148 --> 01:13:30.636
[SPEAKER_00]: You never get to see it like we either you or he could win or he could win the title.
01:13:31.679 --> 01:13:52.000
[SPEAKER_00]: like he easily could win the title like he could very easily win the title and I think yeah going to win the title yeah because they're in New York and yeah um and the storyline would be a Darby's finally gave out and you know what they could even play in this whole
01:13:52.891 --> 01:13:54.435
[SPEAKER_00]: you know, going into their match.
01:13:54.917 --> 01:14:02.559
[SPEAKER_00]: In fact, I'm pretty sure that's probably what's going to happen is you were going to get another payoff and then, you know, maybe a draw he's going to be watching.
01:14:02.599 --> 01:14:03.622
[SPEAKER_00]: He's not going to be happy about it.
01:14:05.086 --> 01:14:05.668
[SPEAKER_00]: Who knows?
01:14:06.239 --> 01:14:31.639
[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, so that was dynamite and again collision air immediately after it's on the pbr watch at some point I still watch last week's collision so I'm trying to watch everything in order, but then I got to watch this show so I can cover it on this show if it wasn't for the podcast I would be you know I probably wouldn't even watch last week's kind of might yet I that's how far behind I am so but I'm getting there I just watched the raw from last week
01:14:32.412 --> 01:14:38.780
[SPEAKER_00]: the one that ended with the Roman and Jacob Fattu promo, where Roman, where Jacob choked them.
01:14:39.821 --> 01:14:41.724
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, the tongue and death group is bad.
01:14:41.744 --> 01:14:42.865
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, loved it.
01:14:43.886 --> 01:14:59.145
[SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, I like some stuff on Dynamite too, but I will say I was, I was a lot more fired up for the Dynamites that were happening the first two months of the year leading into Revolution, then I have been the last couple months ever since, you know, ever since, you have lost the belt really.
01:14:59.125 --> 01:15:05.331
[SPEAKER_02]: So I feel like they're just booking matches and they're just kind of trying to get that path that Tony has in his notebook.
01:15:05.351 --> 01:15:13.320
[SPEAKER_00]: And we're trying to get through the NBA and then it shall play off, start the Owen and then I think I deep to all in and then it'll feel big.
01:15:13.340 --> 01:15:20.167
[SPEAKER_00]: And then all in all out and then the cruiserweight class or the continental classic, you know, and then you know, then Tony's cooking.
01:15:20.187 --> 01:15:28.896
[SPEAKER_02]: And then everyone will look back at this and it always all set up, you know, it's all, but I feel like his creative team is not doing him.
01:15:29.213 --> 01:15:31.216
[SPEAKER_02]: They're not doing a lot of heavy lifting forms.
01:15:31.297 --> 01:15:35.884
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, no, and actually if you listen to him, he will tell you that he is the creative team.
01:15:36.024 --> 01:15:36.706
[SPEAKER_02]: So I know.
01:15:37.206 --> 01:15:37.627
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
01:15:37.647 --> 01:15:39.450
[SPEAKER_00]: So I mean, there may be something to that.
01:15:40.011 --> 01:15:44.178
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure he has a card for all in in his head or maybe right now.
01:15:44.419 --> 01:15:54.175
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's written down and he has a path, well, he has a kind of loose outline of how he wants to get there, but the week to week stuff is a little bit beyond them.
01:15:54.357 --> 01:16:00.268
[SPEAKER_00]: And then in meantime, he's got certain people that are probably in charge of their own storylines.
01:16:00.288 --> 01:16:01.791
[SPEAKER_00]: Jericho, Moxley.
01:16:01.831 --> 01:16:03.073
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
01:16:04.596 --> 01:16:05.898
[SPEAKER_00]: Coping cage for sure.
01:16:05.939 --> 01:16:08.583
[SPEAKER_00]: And the box as part of that as well.
01:16:09.325 --> 01:16:15.336
[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, and to see got all these different people working, you know, in, in, in, it may be even Swerve.
01:16:15.316 --> 01:16:25.034
[SPEAKER_00]: in different directions to try to get to the same goal which is all in and you know selling as many tickets as they can to Wembley and ticket sales for that show.
01:16:25.054 --> 01:16:27.478
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I think the last time I saw was at 23,000.
01:16:27.879 --> 01:16:34.811
[SPEAKER_00]: So I think it's be hard for them to get to 40, but and that at 40 would a lot of people would be disappointed with 40.
01:16:34.871 --> 01:16:35.753
[SPEAKER_00]: I think 40 is fine.
01:16:35.793 --> 01:16:37.476
[SPEAKER_00]: There's not around 40,000 but.
01:16:37.456 --> 01:16:39.643
[SPEAKER_00]: In a 90,000 seed stadium.
01:16:39.923 --> 01:16:40.264
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
01:16:40.284 --> 01:16:41.528
[SPEAKER_00]: So people will be upset about that.
01:16:41.989 --> 01:16:43.795
[SPEAKER_00]: But I think you sell 40,000 tickets.
01:16:44.617 --> 01:16:46.683
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think there's anything anybody can complain about.
01:16:47.927 --> 01:16:48.509
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, Jeff.
01:16:48.910 --> 01:16:49.913
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's get your plugs in.
01:16:50.753 --> 01:16:53.197
[SPEAKER_02]: Shake them ropes to be recorded hopefully tomorrow.
01:16:53.237 --> 01:17:00.127
[SPEAKER_02]: I haven't talked to Rob yet, but yes, we will be previewing back-alash, which will be happening on Saturday.
01:17:00.147 --> 01:17:03.872
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, somewhat interesting card.
01:17:04.333 --> 01:17:05.594
[SPEAKER_02]: I think I don't know.
01:17:05.614 --> 01:17:06.916
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
01:17:07.758 --> 01:17:09.580
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, no collision, but okay.
01:17:09.600 --> 01:17:10.622
[SPEAKER_02]: It's no collision.
01:17:10.922 --> 01:17:11.563
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh-huh, you know.
01:17:13.366 --> 01:17:15.870
[SPEAKER_00]: more wrestling on collision than there will be on back.
01:17:15.950 --> 01:17:32.353
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sure there will be some new day to AEW talk possibly because of those cuts hadn't happened yet or knowledge of those hadn't happened yet and then maybe Rob will want to talk to internal and we'll see what happens but that should be in your pod catchers either late late Thursday or early Friday.
01:17:32.333 --> 01:17:33.275
[SPEAKER_00]: Sounds like a fun show.
01:17:33.836 --> 01:17:38.685
[SPEAKER_00]: And then Jeff or Gerrit and I will be back next week on Tuesday.
01:17:38.725 --> 01:17:43.955
[SPEAKER_00]: We'll talk about whoever gets cut from WWE this week, whoever's left.
01:17:44.736 --> 01:17:49.766
[SPEAKER_00]: And we'll probably run down backlash if anything major happened on that show.
01:17:49.886 --> 01:17:52.030
[SPEAKER_00]: And then Jeff and I will be back next week.
01:17:52.364 --> 01:17:56.891
[SPEAKER_00]: To talk about dynamite as we head towards double enough thing and the card starting to shape up.
01:17:56.911 --> 01:17:58.995
[SPEAKER_00]: I think we got about six matches now.
01:17:59.075 --> 01:18:00.237
[SPEAKER_00]: So we're getting there.
01:18:01.499 --> 01:18:03.462
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so for Jeff Hawkins.
01:18:04.143 --> 01:18:08.871
[SPEAKER_00]: I've been Paul Fontaine and this has been the dynamite show.







