AEW Double or Nothing 2026 Post Show: MJF, Mick Foley, Kyle Fletcher | AEW Postgame Live

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, Jeremy, we just saw a very entertaining and exciting and news driven and storyline driven AEW, double or nothing from

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[SPEAKER_00]: Louis arms the Louis Armstrong stadium.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I watched the show a little delayed because I had some stuff going on and I don't know what it was like watching with big Dave from a, you know, big Dave standing on his head kind of thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But um, was just an exciting show like match after match after match after match after match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, there were some things that were a little repetitive that we will talk about when we dig into the matches, but

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[SPEAKER_00]: I guess Athena and Mina maybe was the worst match and I didn't even think that that's what I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I didn't think that was bad.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, it wasn't bad.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But the caliber matches across the board were so good that if you were not like an A plus performer on your A plus game, you were already behind the A ball in the show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I guess the thing about that match that I thought was good was I was like, man, Mina looks the best that she's looked at a long time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that says something to her stepping up the, you know, knowing that this is a paper view and also Athena doing a really good job in that match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So the newsworthy, the newsworthy is thing coming out of the show is MJF did not get his head shaved.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Was that the newsworthy is thing?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think so.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know what you're going to think is the newsworthy is thing and we'll talk about that as we talk about this match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, because I'm interested in what you thought about it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know what I thought about it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know what I've been thinking about it and we'll get to it in a second here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But MJF, Darby Allen, there were a couple of holds your breath moments as you were watching the first one is the first one is like 30 seconds in the match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Darby does this dive out clips his heels on the top rope and he does a like a flip onto the back of his neck and he's like, uh, he's like gumbi in a sense.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he just bounces right back up and they just go and do stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But that moment, there was the coffin drop from the top of the screen or whatever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the scaffold and the bowler, bowler and cloth.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I actually thought the way that he landed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was worried for MJF's life while he was up there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But the way that he landed and MJF caught him, I was like, okay, I think those guys are okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: the jumping tombstone from the middle rope to end the match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The package pile driver on the steps where his head is about as close to the steps as you could possibly be as he's taken them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All that stuff was insane.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I get the excitement, I'm excited to watch these matches too, but I just have that pang of guilt when I'm watching Darby Allen beat himself up like this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I know that he loves it and he's never going to change, and this is the way that he wants to do his business.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I guess in that way, maybe you should fill

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[SPEAKER_00]: happy for him, but I still knowing what I know about wrestling and knowing what I know about wrestlers as they get old.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I still feel really guilty watching this dude's matches and being entertained by them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The the coffin drop on the scaffolding is when I went from wow this is a really good match to oh took me out of it in the match and I was I was really concerned with the blood on the back of

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[SPEAKER_01]: And part of me was like, I know they're going to use it to play into the match even more in which they did, you know, like later on in the match, you had him in the scorpion deathlocky, you know, got movesy from the head injury and they used that if more of the transition into the next part of the match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was probably the like the one drawback to it is they leaned in just a little bit too hard on that and I mean you went for the coffee drop off the sketch and the risk inherent with that is what it is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But when you actually see the blood, and you remember this guy isn't made in front of her, and there's like, it's coming down the back of his neck, like it's not a good place for blood to be.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And for disclosure, I did a podcast.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This past week of top renovation, talking about the Shabbata and O'Conan match from 2017, where it was the headbutt and all the stuff, and careers were changed if the result of one match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: hyper, hyper aware of all of this as a result of that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I would just definitely think of like, yes, you want to lift fast, die young.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're not here for a long time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're here for a good time, but still man, it's so hard to watch this sometimes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I get what you're saying.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And all of that stuff was built to lead up to the end of the match where he fanes dizziness and nearly passing out because what he actually does from that moment is he kips up and he hits a scorpion death drop and and he's still good like it's like a comeback spot for him

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I wasn't offended or bothered by them, leaning into the stuff that they built up to, because that's the whole reason they did it was to get people to think that he's hurt for real.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they did this with Brian Dane, they did it worse with Brian Dane, or somebody like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so, you know, we've seen some, yeah, I would call the Brian Dane or some stuff a little bit in poor taste.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, like the fact of the matter is that,

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[SPEAKER_00]: at some point that the injuries are going to wear him down and, you know, we're going to remember these matches and we're going to go, oh my gosh, you know, I wish somebody would have told them, but people are telling him the one who may end up feeling

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[SPEAKER_00]: guilty overall it's Tony Con for letting him do all this stuff but that's down the line and and we'll see how that goes but overall this match was incredible and the finish was MJF hitting the jumping tombstone from the second rope to beat him and then of course he did the the headlock take over finish

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he is posing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They put Darby on a stretcher.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He moves those guys so that he can flex.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, Darby on the stretcher, Kevin night comes out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Once Kevin night came out, I mean, I think we all knew what was going to happen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But what person did not?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Really?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Really?

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[SPEAKER_01]: what what did Dave think was happening he's just going to scare him out there and he's on the top rope and he's just he's waving off like M.J. have anything to go with or going to run back that match on time to bite and then he goes for that splash and he just goes oh my god like what did you think was so much so uh I think this Thursday night when John the Rock and I recorded John was like how can

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, they're saving him for something and it was for this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So Kevin Knight does the frog splash on Darby who is on the stretcher as the stretcher is being wheeled out, then he dumps the stretcher over and that's how the show ends with M.J.F.

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[SPEAKER_00]: looking like he's just saw the boogeyman.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now let's talk about Kevin Knight here for a second as a heel.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's going to be really good for him, but

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[SPEAKER_00]: on dynamite last week when they did the crossover to collision.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He had the mic.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he was doing something with trying to speak in a, um, I don't know, who's trying to talk like the rock.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I guess speaking in third person and being very cocky.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, we need some more reps here because you'd set a whole lot of nothing in your time to shine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So the heel turn hopefully gives him the opportunities to get the mic more and to do some very targeted promos and cocky promos.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But if that was his first opportunity, I thought it was like, uh, okay, he needs more work.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I think him turning heel and learning how to be a heel, not that I've never seen him prior to this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe he was a good heel par.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've never really seen him with a heel.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's always been baby, baby.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Even back when I started watching him in Nagepan maybe two or three years, you know, always a baby face.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's good for him because it's young and now he gets to be, you know, we've seen a lot of talent like Swarov really good baby face really good heal like to have both opportunities means that you're going to be very valuable down the line to this company.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know there are certain people who wanted to see.

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[SPEAKER_00]: speed speed ball Mike Bailey become a like a coberkai geek heel.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I did not maybe he's so will.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he's doing a very good job at where he is right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I worry that turning speeder heel will be more beautiful bike ball Mike Bailey.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he'll just be like a goofball a goofy hitman.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want him to be that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he's perfect the way he is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So Kevin

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[SPEAKER_00]: which was so many things that you could have closed this show with I was wondering what they were going to do is I go, okay, what's what's going to happen here is hang man page you're going to come back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, no, not hang man page.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was Kevin night.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So they really believe in this dude.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, Tony concerted at the beginning of the year that he, you know, he thinks Kevin night's going to have a big year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And this is this looks like the start of it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I saw this and I think it was about two or three years ago, I was going to Kevin night and I was I was looking at him and I think I said to you like my comment, if you had the perfect combination of trick Williams and Carmelo Hayes, it would be Kevin night and

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think you kind of push back on at the time, but it was like reasonable push back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, there were a whole lot of unproven talent and some stuff there that, you know, he's already a better wrestler than Carmelo Hayes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, he is a total package wrestler.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so the message being sent that in the main event of one of the big paper views of AEW, your angle was to turn this guy heel.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is a giant billboard to say, hey, we think this guy is important.

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[SPEAKER_01]: the other end of that is that in AEW, at this exact moment, the heel side is incredibly strong.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And at the very least, he probably the fourth or fifth most important heel on the roster.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's going to take a lot of work to get him up to where he needs to be.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and you've got time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can imagine him being a heel for quite a bit of time and if you play your current right here, if you're going to be a massive baby face, when you come back around, but that's not to say it, like if we compare to the players in AEW, he has got all the tools to succeed, but it's not going to just be handed to him, not with the talent and on the heel credit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he's got to do good work.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think the wrestling is there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The personality is not there yet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a little tri-hardy, but you give him the opportunity because you think he's got the goods.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think, it's a great chance for him to show out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What you said about the heel, it's like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you who do you want him to align with or do you want him to loan Wolfe himself here a couple better to loan Wolfe, you know, like two but he's going to have people coming at him like Darby's going to be pissed at him speed ball will possibly be pissed at him maybe he's got mjf kind of I will get to him and her ship kind of thing going on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I was saying, MJF may try and cozy up to him just to kind of keep your enemies close or kind of thing knowing that he's coming.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it'll be interesting to see where they align him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was interesting because coming into the main event, I was wrapping my head around and I'm like, okay, flex your back and if he's not in the picture for the world title, then he should be feuding with Kevin Knight for

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[SPEAKER_01]: the TNT time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But now that Kevin Knight is a heel and flexors a heel, that's clearly not the direction it seems that we'll be going in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Kevin Knight might just be the top heel in the midcard part of that roster where flexor was.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now that flexor presumably could be moving up to a more main event scene.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now that it's kind of

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[SPEAKER_01]: He kept an eye might just be pivoting right into that role, you know?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's actually talk with the Kyle Fletcher thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So to Keshe Donocada had a really, really good match, especially the last three minutes or so was incredible.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And after the show was, or after the match was over,

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[SPEAKER_00]: uh... to catch those arguing with don call us he's arguing with rockie remaro of caught us out there mark davis is out there and i was like what do they arguing with him about he just beat friggin because we've got it like bow down to this man like what are you guys doing

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just give him a little can't fly or can move on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What a time to hear.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so they had to have beef with him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe maybe that wasn't part of the plan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe he didn't follow the what the plan was.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he won that match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But anyways, Kyle Fletcher comes out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He does the long slow rock like walked down to the ring, like back in the day rock.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he's just kind of looking, you know,

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[SPEAKER_00]: just like a million bucks, walks down to the ring, does the Takeshita raising the hand?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And again, this is very tease.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I hope Dave saw this one coming.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he hits Takeshita with a close line.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then they bust him with a belt.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he, I do think it's going to be fun to see if there's still a little bit of a love triangle here with Fletcher, Takeshita and Alcada, because

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[SPEAKER_00]: Who's the leader of the the callous group is it fletcher is it okada that could be fun and then now to cash it as one with the bullseye on his back both guys are going to want their shots at at him so i think that'll be a fun little mix of what they do there one would all gap here in the production for a you w having

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[SPEAKER_01]: Calts and Mark Davis out here and then having Mark Davis in that video package for the stadium stampede and it made it seem like he was arriving to the arena for this for this match kind of bothered me, but it is what it wanted it, you know, just it like little stuff like that that, you know,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought that was actually kind of humorous for more than anything else like I can't help but be a dork when he said that's why problem.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like I'm watching this thing going like

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, okay, MVP's cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Dashley's cool, Shelton Benjamin's cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is the coolest Jericho's been in years.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Even the bucks, you know, the bucks are quirky, but they're they're a little cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then you save Omega for the main event.

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[SPEAKER_00]: My man is smoking a cigar.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Actually, that Jack Perry came into with a knife.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So they saved like the moment for Omega.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he's at a suit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's got the hair tied back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Fuck the students, just the best.

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[SPEAKER_00]: As I'm thinking this, he chokes on the cigar and I go,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Or he's just the dork and I like it's part of his personality, but man, can you could you just like not have to do the joke, the farting the church joke when you did such a great video package?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know some AEW fans probably really, really liked it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was just like, man, when is this guy going to be the fucking man?

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[SPEAKER_00]: What are they going to treat him like the man?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe he doesn't want to be treated like the man, so I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He looked like the man in that match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll get to that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is the best guy in the whole match by so much.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was pretty wild.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll get to that match in a set.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we'll back to get the Fletcher and Takeshira.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It really does seem to me that Fletcher, Takeshira is the plan for all-in at Webley.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like you just kind of use that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you have a little bit of time here because I'm presuming that after forbidden or tickets just kind of off the board for the G1, I don't know anything.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I would assume that he is not going to be on what I presume is a July paper view for a UW.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So whatever happens in June that forbidden door would lead to whatever they're dealing with at all in, which, you know, just kind of seem like fletcher and to catch it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And as Curry had said, instead of the world title, he's getting mugged for the international title, uh, mostly as the continental title.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So one step closer to the world title and title above the TNT title, it seemed like the right place for Kyle Fletcher.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm excited for the next few months for him and I did not realize how much I missed him until I saw him and he had reached.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was, yeah, it was great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: just a great way to bring him back because you bring him back as if he's a giant star, which he is not that fans forgot him or anything, but it was enough time away to where you're like, oh yeah, forgot Kyle Fletcher still there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, by the way, I will, uh, the, I know Tony's presser is, is going on right now as we're recording.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I think, actually it may be over by now, but it's, or it's close to over.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll, I'll, if, I'll find some notes while you're doing it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'll sort through some notes and see if we, we find some notes that are worthy about it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so let's talk about the Owen Cup winners.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So the match winners had it headed for the Owen Cup.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So obviously Osprey wins.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Strickland wins.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't see why it doesn't feel like they are on a mission for Forbidden Door.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There could there could be an adjustment.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I've been talking about making people think that's right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it feels like the right match, but there could be like this Claudio thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If they want to throw a little bit of a...

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[SPEAKER_00]: of a wild card in there because he's death writer, but I would rather see Will and Swarf myself.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Why would you specifically put these two matches on the paper view before the net to paper view?

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[SPEAKER_01]: If it wasn't to have that tap of three like, hey, pay for this one, you're trying to see these two guys wrestle each other next month.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you're like, okay, that's a, that can early kind of, maybe I will give you my money.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Kind of.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's the right match, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's the right match to have as a finals, especially on a paper view that historically hasn't really been about the

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[SPEAKER_00]: The conflict and the struggles and it's really been like this all star mat though you know over the last couple years that's changed a little bit like there's your like really meaningful match to get to the Oh and cup winner.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm I'm good with that if that's what they do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we'll ask for a beat some O Joe impressive match source Strickland beat Bandito.

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[SPEAKER_00]: lots of incredible luchus spots in that match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And on the women's side, we had we all had one match on the women's side as far as I as far as I remember, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was just the meaner and Athena.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, for the first time, there was a world title card, but we haven't kind of come to a conclusion on that one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So Athena and Mina Sharikawa, it was probably the worst match on the show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't think it was a bad match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think I thought it was the best Mina has looked in quite some time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sure, I thought Athena was really solid.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Athena's working her knee the whole match and she has to hit her finish to win.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So good stuff and Athena moves on like I think we thought she would and we'll have to see what happens with that wild card spot who they bring in.

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[SPEAKER_00]: with that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I agree.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What I have to say, that's a three probably going to be fine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they're going to pull off on doing that match into the last minute.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's fine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's kind of a fine time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, but I don't imagine that three is really going to mean anything as a world title contender unless they build her up and they haven't.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They don't have anyone that's going to mean anything like a world title contender.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So they're going to have to do work no matter who wins this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, and come.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, you had Willow.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Why, I think I think if you're reading between the lines here, Willow is supposed to win that thing, and now it's all just kind of going on in a direction that didn't want that direction to go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So hey, look, if they decided on Wednesday,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like Athena's going to be our new baby face and we're going to get behind her.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'd be fine with that, but they have work to do to do that because they've are a wager for her entire career.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, who I kind of well of watching the show tonight would be a really fun wild card for the Owen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's peanuts.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I I would imagine with with her age.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It probably took her a little bit to even get up to what she's ever did today, sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: To be in a match with that kind of match quality.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You had three months to get ready for an actual match and you had a couple of squash matches before you did that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then she put Zekla over and that was it for just knowing inherently that like,

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[SPEAKER_01]: The plan is probably tecla winning anyways at the Owen given what's all happened.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Why wouldn't you just take that opportunity to just use an order star to put her over?

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's my mind, my mind seconds.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're kind of, they're bad to get to the wall because you want to, you know, when you're trying to come up with out of the box ideas, I think it's a cool idea.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know why Mercedes wouldn't work here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know people are down on the idea of Mercedes being the wildcard.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would say, man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Mercedes were, when you break glass in case of emergency, you bring Mercedes back, like, hey, okay, you, we need you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Can you or go, you're the wildcar.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're stuck, you're the best woman that we have anyways, or one of the best, like let's listen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What's stopping our dynamite in two weeks from having Mercedes like that music hitting and everyone's like Mercedes is back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But that's what you want on a Wednesday night.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You want that conversation to be about like the cool thing that happened on Dynamite.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And if that music hit and you have everyone

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[SPEAKER_01]: The baby face is trying to redeem herself after losing all of her titles and prove that she's still got it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Listen, you've got a story right there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I still don't know if you have for Beat Tecla, like it would actually be more compelling down for Luke at the world title, given like she's trying to earn her way back and can't be that easy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There are things that you can do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The anchor is for Sadie, but there are things that we probably don't know that are causing that decision to not be made with ease.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know,

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I guess the other thing we talked about is Mick Foley, who I just don't, I don't usually tune into the buy-in, but I just threw it on, you know, last 15 minutes or so, and I saw this man in the ring, I was like, hey, what's Mick Foley doing in the ring?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he's cutting a promo with MJF.

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[SPEAKER_00]: uh... mjf kicks him in the nuts darby runs down mjf uh... mick puts darby over as like when it for the weird guys or something like that when it for the weird over whatever he is so it's i mean sounds like mick is going to be doing some stuff and hell like the couple minutes that i saw of him now i don't think you want people to get tired of him but if you put him

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[SPEAKER_00]: MJF is the right guy to put him in against, uh, you know, when they do some stuff, so I thought it was awesome.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's awesome to see me, though, you know, when the rock, when you mentioned the rock, the rock, you know, which is hilarious, because if they brought the rock out in front of this same very crowd, they would have gone up shit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: like a molten like layer of heat and tonic tonic on and the presser said that René Paket and Mick will be doing the pre-shows for a long time to come.

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[SPEAKER_01]: an argument could be made that Mick Foley's presence here tonight created a show-long angle that may have tipped the balance of Darry retaining and losing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, Mick not been here tonight, Darry would have won because of just the way that that beginning angle had started and just kind of set the tone for the evening.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think that man was cutting his hair.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, you'll never cut it down.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But like that's the kind of logic that you could introduce to this that Mick Foley was an attacker and like everything changed as a result of this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Speaking of blast for the past, I wanted to touch on this before we go completely away from it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Did you notice that the will offspring match with basically a love letter to AJ Styles?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't think about it that way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: he wore them down.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He got, he got, he got some original up and the heaviest styles clash that I may have ever seen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was scared for Jill's life as I was watching this thing happen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, yeah, now that you say that, I think that makes sense.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he was wearing the vest in the beginning and I was trying to figure out if it was like, he's got death writer style like he's trying to merge the death writer with his like, what do you think?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was like, it doesn't feel right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then I would remember you about the AJ style stuff that like he'd grown up with watching those AJ matches.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I thought about the the jagged, or like, oh, that's the AJ jacket.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then it was all like, they're all they're all just like,

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[SPEAKER_01]: given AJ's flower to that good dispatch.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't really, right, match, but I want to make sure I mentioned that cause it seemed important.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Anyways, the, well, going back to what you said, the funniest thing about Osprey is when all that stuff about, was he going to sign with WWE or AEW is going to happen?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, this man was a bigger fan of TNA wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm taking from John Alba's Twitter feed because John Alba, I'm very confident that John Alba is getting the right stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So Tony Khan confirmed multiple promotions will appear on my AEW and he'd like it to be a home for pro wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Very Tony Khan like there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We should be ready and we say you have a trailer.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, for sure, right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's like, I mean, I'm sure as he's dealing with triller.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's probably thinking like, why can't I be making this one?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I can do this way better than they can.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, probably what he's like, that's what entrepreneurs think about it for everything, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, you, you use a product and you're like, shoot, I can do this better.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you start thinking about it that way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, he can't cut any also home for roughly thrive.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a win-win.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It sounds like Tony Conn isn't even bothering with Madison Square Garden at this point.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He said he hasn't talked to them since 2019.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I was all about doing something with MSG and AEW and I was talking to Dave about that, but it doesn't look like he's even in the mix there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So Tony Conn, of course, now very pro David Ellison.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The thing about the David Ellison in CBS and Paramount and all that is,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Tony Khan and David Ellison are like kind of one in the same as far as who their dads are and how they got into their businesses like the similarities are eerily striking now that you mentioned it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so it doesn't surprise me that he would get along with David Ellison.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like Tony Khan, I'm sure runs it like being in the NFL.

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[SPEAKER_00]: David Ellison is, you know, CBS is a big partner for like it just like we're kind of the very successful batcher.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, the other thing is like, you know, especially with a W fans is that you're kind of worried about the politics and how easy it is for David Ellison to bend for Donald Trump and all those things, but it's like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Tony Kahn wants to make sure that AEW is in the right place and is using his relationships and using his networking and using the similarities to make sure that AEW is working with the partner correctly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All those things are way more important than whether or not David Ellison is

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[SPEAKER_00]: bending for Trump.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Everybody's bending for Trump.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's kind of an interesting thing, but it will be a relationship that probably should be paying attention to because how prioritized AEW is in this paramount Warner Brothers merger is going to be like fascinating to me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like

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[SPEAKER_00]: relatable to to pro wrestling content like is it a good match do they think it's antithetical

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, when I, when I log into HBO Max to watch my, watch my AEW show and then I click sports, I did do about 30 scrolls to get to the AEW stuff like will paramount bump them up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would think so, like if you if you have a paper view or you have a big show, you would bump them up better.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't believe, and we're gonna, kind of, you're all slightly here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't believe that it has been in UFC's best interest to have shows in which they are not cultivating paper view revenue, because it has made their show seem ordinary.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And

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[SPEAKER_01]: uninterrupting for the most part.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Even though I have easier access to UFC now than I have ever had, I am less interested.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you think that if AEW were to be put on paramount and their paper views became within the subscription platform only, but you didn't have to pay extra for it?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you think that that would increase their popularity or would make them feel less special?

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[SPEAKER_00]: it's a great question.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think being on peacock necessarily helped WWE that much or as much as we thought it would be some of that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: is peacock is the single worst streaming service out there big ones they just don't have the same popularity in the same subscribers paramount has a good good amount of subscribers and you combine them with the HBO Max subscribers however that's going to level out like you they're not just I'm sure there's lots of duplication there so it's not going to be just add one number you get the other number but there's the global aspect of it and a w has some global deals they'll have to work that thing out

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[SPEAKER_00]: They have my AEW.

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[SPEAKER_00]: How does that work with Paramount?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Just Paramount want to absorb my AEW and AEW content within the my AEW platform for paper visas just absolved into Paramount.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like they could do something like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's you know, it's going to be a fun

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[SPEAKER_00]: a fun next six months to see how this shakes out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I am on the opinion that, you know, because there are some doomsayers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not on the doomsayers side, but I am on the slightly skeptical side about how they value AEW in this relationship, because it's kind of small fry to the other things that they care about, you know, like CNN and all that stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But at the same time,

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[SPEAKER_00]: losing money, and you're actually making money, and you have this little niche audience, they may just leave you alone and go, hey man, just keep doing what you're doing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that I think would be the best thing for AEW.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Overall, like, yeah, we're going to pick up this option.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Of course, like, we need to figure out what we're going to do with you strategically.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Going back to your UFC point, though, the problem isn't paramount.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The problem, well, the problem isn't paramount as the platform.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The problem is,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because UFC gets all this money, they don't have to make the biggest fights.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All there are many, many problems with the UFC.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we wanted to talk to the UFC, we could go down the rabbit hole.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But for me, the problem with the UFC start.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And a lot of time, I've had with Dana White.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Dana's out of his mind.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Also, Tony Concert, this potentially viable,

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[SPEAKER_00]: week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Next April, while WrestleMania is in Saudi Arabia.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, he didn't say, he didn't really put a, most definitely we're gonna do this thing statement out there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So if they were to have a show and I think I'd even tweeted this out, I'd tell people, I'll notice it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If they were to put on a show like this on, again, the night one night of WrestleMania, in between night one and night two on those daytime shows

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, it would be a really good feather in his cap.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think a lot of things positive things can happen from it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And can aggressive move and it's the kind of thing that in, you know,

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[SPEAKER_01]: a moment of WWE's quote unquote great if triumph, you know, another like promotion just coming in and trying to steal their thunder.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what they would try to do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I can compare it a bit and you should go for it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I guess Salvador Ludoroth was in the in attendance at the show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you think Mabdoni was there?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Who's Mabdoni?

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[SPEAKER_01]: The mayor of New York.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, oh, yeah, because it's caliber.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, caliber.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Everyone was just dying to know if you was there or not, I didn't check his Twitter this man tweets.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I did not look at his Twitter, but there were every so often, some of you may have taught me to have to show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think you kind of look at him, check somebody like shouting into the world, hoping to manifest his reality.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's cool that Louder authors there because I want to speak this into existence man, you know, I've been just begging for mysticota be in like a real meaningful match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's not a trio's match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's not forbidden door.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm hopeful that they can figure something out there, though I was trying to pump a big day for info on that and he seems to think that he'll be okay for that show, but another boy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he'll be there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Unless he gets hurt again, I think he'll be fine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, Mexico has already beaten MJF, so you can run it back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's the same thing they're going to do with Swerve, when Swerve had the World Title, he will offer it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So if you do this match at the Owen, where Will gets his winback against Swerve on the way to the World Title, what you do, Mr. Gov already beaten MJF in Arena, Mexico.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It would not be a big deal for Mr. Gov.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is that, Mr. Jeff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, let's let's go through the matches here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll go through them pretty quickly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're talking for 40 minutes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We don't want to Spend a way night long show Yeah, you like a long show, but it was a little show

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, what happened at the buy-in?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't see anything at the buy-in other than the end of the McFulling Derby name.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was pretty simple.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We had the Divined Amingon, I'm going to cross Megan Bane, doing the five-minute challenge, and it went four-minute to 45 seconds.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So they went, they went nearly the distance.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was going to be in the van and a zeta steel, as you remember, zeta steel was with WWE for a little while and G. I like it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She'll get the hatch and all the well done and well kind of done.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, next one was the death writers, uh, defeated the obf who was Claudio Dango Garcia and we were you to versus Anthony Bowen's hook and cap see or a Shabbada.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The fact that what you think this match would have been when Shabbada and cast Noli were in the match, people were interested, people were a little less interested than the other guys were in, uh, Anthony Bowen still has a little bit of work to, to get over with it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But he seems to be a pretty good set, uh, with.

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[SPEAKER_01]: the, uh, with the ops, who's like Matt's caster, nowhere, no idea where the sky is or where he's going to be or if he's ever coming back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But, uh, they use balance to, uh, to beat him up and get the win for the death writers and all as well that was then well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then we had the 10 man tag and the things chaos.

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[SPEAKER_01]: here, your chaos here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We had the cooperation, which was brisco or Cassidy and Roddott strong, teaming up with big boom AJ and Q team our show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They went up against the Shane Taylor promotion, which was at the Hago Go, Carly Bravo, we Marriardi, Shane Taylor, and

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sean Dean was a little bit of a messy match near the end of the match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They were going to do a super plot spot in which Q team our show was going to be the the top of the super plot spot kind of go over and do the powerball something.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, he tripped and fell and landed on the side of the ring and by the time that everyone got up from that spot, there was a hole in

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[SPEAKER_01]: a big boom AJ cheek in which bleeding profusely all over his chest and no filling it like a baller.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just not great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: His kid looks like you can't wait to be a pro wrestler.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, the uh, not wrestler but big justice hits.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I realized big justice and Brody Jr are the same age.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't know if we're going to be here for that or not.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But after the match after the cooperation of Bill Mendoon.

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[SPEAKER_01]: uh, one of the match, Shintail or promotions were not having it, and then Eddie Kingston with a backpack on, if that's you, it's just walking around New York, hanging out, decided to show up, uh, at the arena, Louis Armstrong Stadium alongside Ortiz and now Mans Warner, who is now a member of the AEW slash, where you have on a roster, did not want to miss this opportunity,

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[SPEAKER_01]: showed up where the ring and that if they say was the zero hour that you missed before they spent the last 50 minutes with the Mick Foley angle and MJF and Derby before wrapping it up and I think there were like five to eight minutes of just killing time for the paper if you started.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, there was there was some killing time for sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So the opener was FTR versus Copenhage

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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't think I would see a player to the balls in a match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a lot of things I didn't think I'd see on the spot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There was a player to the nose.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Christian, I forget which one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think gave Dax a player to the nose and cash, a player right to the balls.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, how cash, you know, fought through not quitting at that moment.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, maybe he was passed out and standing on his feet and somehow.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they did a nasty spike pile driver to the outside to cope with and it did the table didn't break and I just thought this man has neck problem.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This was this was scary.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was actually more scared of that spot than most of the Darby spots.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now I'm not saying all the Darby's there, but that one is in rubber.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, and he's had the next surgery before, and he had to retire because he broke in his bones a lot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so they did this spot where they were trying to break Christians wrist and they put his wrist in a cinder block.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But, and then they hit it with a chair and I was like, hmm, at that one did not look to a too harsh there when you're just hitting the cinder block with the chair.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would have put maybe pulled back on the camera on that one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That one just maybe a little bit more for the live crowd.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I also didn't have on my bingo card of taking off the top turn buckle in match number one on the paper view.

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[SPEAKER_00]: seemed a little out there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It definitely made me think that it was going to get wild in the main event when they were getting that wild at the opener.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then, um, Shadow Machine on Christian cope with the double spear save, because he was out from the pile

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[SPEAKER_00]: Copeland a dumb baby face spot in the match where he's got all these got both guys begging him to to leave them alone and they will they will say it if he just leaves them alone And it was just so Stokely could come from behind and hit him with his watch and I was like, man, what a dumb baby face.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We had we had Pliers to the balls.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, the top turn muckle

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[SPEAKER_00]: take it off and dumb baby face all the same opening match but but the match is still well done these guys are you know these guys are really good at at their jobs so this sets up the big entrance for Beth who looked amazing by the way in the way she looked the makeup the entrance ever she was when how she was she was booked to do

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[SPEAKER_00]: But then they had her get dropped on the steps very quickly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, they wanted the reaction and then they needed to set her up to be called sequential.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, now that she was like, figured in, she had to get written out real quick, just because like, Elga either should be going to be there at the very end or if she will be part of the set up to the very end and I prefer her being part of the set up at the very end.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, so the reason why she had to sell is because they had to set up a fire table.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you had Mick Foley in this building.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You had edge in this building.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The fate, their their famous Russell Mania moment going through the fire table and they set it up so that Beth.

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[SPEAKER_00]: was was going to have to go through this fire table as they were going to hit the spear on Beth.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She moved out of the way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Did she actually pull stokely over?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like she may have not and he just said to jump in front of it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, it was a catch we are pushed him over because catch we were on the other side and so they both went through the table and Beth just had to move out of the way and what kind of why would they jump in

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[SPEAKER_01]: uh... because she jumped out and she's like deep jumped but he was still holding her so like he was holding on to her she jumped and he lost hold of her but then he was like in line of side of the spear okay dad i i i i thought maybe she was supposed to pull him in but i didn't see her pull him in no no i think she jumped out of the way and you were all that and then just kind of then he was like dad dad man basically

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[SPEAKER_00]: So then Chris Christian has the scorpion on DAX.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Copeland has him in the cross face.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Beth goes and gets the barbed wire or the spike bat and Copeland puts it on DAX's face and DAX quits.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we have these guys don't have to stop tag teaming and they're the tag team champions and all that good stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Good way to open the show with the baby faces winning.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, I don't know if you were able to catch the entrances or not, but the Copeland entrance was tremendous in which he came out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: first guy out on this on the entire show of the main show come out in the middle of the ring.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The music stops but the audience Randy Orton ship and they have the absolute perfect clearance for about 45 seconds and they do look like you're about to cry.

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[SPEAKER_01]: like he's just, he's walking around the ring and he's just doing his like 350 walk around and he's just, he can't believe it's happening.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And like you, you see a guy and he's like, I have dreamed all my life of the one thing happening and then finally happening and he's like taking it in and then he has that match and he's got his wife there, he's got his three best friends

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if he's probably ever had a more creatively fulfilling night in pro wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_01]: In the last 20 years, if not his entire career, like that's the level that I divide that I got from him from the point that that hit to the when everything was over.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Beth crying on the outside when the match was over, she was happy, it felt like they invested

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was rewarded before the match even started.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, my take on the beginning of that was he's a really pretty decent actor.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm sure he felt, I'm sure he felt fantastic.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it was almost like one of those things where because of the way he reacted, I just wondered if like he's

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you can play into it, it's a little bit, yeah, and not playing into it in a fake way, but playing into it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, hey, I'm going to, I'm going to maximize this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I'm a wrestler, even though.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, you like it as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like he's doing it for us at home, and he's doing it so that the fans who are singing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: keep freaking sick.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it gets that like modding.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, remoting just to make sure that like the connection is like, hey, don't stop it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it was also great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it was also fantastic for them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I did feel like they were just enjoying that crowd was that crowd at that moment told everybody's like, we're here tonight.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we are here for this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know what?

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[SPEAKER_00]: going back to what you're saying about whether or not this was like the most fulfilling moment ever.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like he's probably thinking like I don't know how many more of these.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to have didn't he say that he's probably going to have to hang it up next year?

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[SPEAKER_01]: He said you're going to have a hang it up, but he also mentioned that he's got some injury time and like time away from acting that you're going to have to fulfill the contract that it's not just like that three years is up and he's done you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's got the added time on and you know, look, you kind of acted.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He does.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Man, I mean, if you only have to wrestle once every three or four months,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, a big match like this and, you know, a couple of TV matches, I think it's just enjoying himself.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think I think all these guys that come over from WWE that been doing it for a while, like Mick Foley and Copeland with the right friend of mine, they're like, oh, yeah, I forgot why I love this so much.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like just,

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's different for some of these guys when they come in and they're they're in that machine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's just all of a sudden they realize like, I'll Dave was talking about how, like, fully said, you know what, he wasn't watching wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he got into AEW and when you watch the AEW, you realized he was loving wrestling again.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like he was genuine stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I asked him, like, do you believe that?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like do you believe that he'd never watched AEW and he just sat down and watched and fell in love with it?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he was like, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it's a good story.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And one of those, like, you, you tell that thing to make sure that that connection, like, even the, this is what your, your favorite sort of favorite promotion.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: That kind of thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we had O'Cotton, T'Keshida.

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[SPEAKER_00]: O'Cotton was having fun at the beginning of this match, just kind of being the OG messing with the young boy and slapping him around and smiling.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Lots of back and forth with some big moves and the crowd just eating out of their hands.

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[SPEAKER_00]: O'Cotton really is the master, by the way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know this isn't the best match of the night, but the studio's just,

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's the greatest.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's the greatest.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's the greatest.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's the greatest I've ever seen and maybe it was the greatest match of the night, but, you know, they're going to be because of how early in the night, it was, you know, people are going to probably not rated as highly, but.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Rainmaker on the apron and to Keshe to flip over on his shoulder and to the floor.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There was a DDT on the floor and Don Callis is trying to get Ocada to get back in the ring because he's like, man, you guys need to end this conflict, but you don't need to break his neck.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So then to Keshe to fires up, it's a brain buster on the floor and Callis gets mad at him for the

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[SPEAKER_00]: Back in the ring, Takeshna goes for the knee, Akata reverses him into the tombstone.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Takeshna reversed the rainmaker into some sort of pinning position, small package of some sort.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Then we got the very timely Akata drop kick, actually did two of them in this match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Takeshna countered with the left-handed rainmaker of his own.

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[SPEAKER_00]: uh, a caught a drop kick again to block the running knee to cash it a sold for a second.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then still hit the running knee, a caught a kick out at one and shit was on now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's another that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: there was another match where Samoa Joe decided to kick out at one and I really wish he would not have done that because it felt like a copycat, even though I'm sure he had no idea that Ocada was going to do that, but he maybe should have known, maybe a producer should have told him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then raging fire for three in, and he got the win.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so like we mentioned, Kyle Fletcher comes out and they, you know, it looks like it's going to be Kyle Fletcher and to cash it up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I imagine O'Cott is still going to be in that mix because it's the best usage of him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But fantastic match that kick out at one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was just like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is like the stuff that I miss so much.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, this is what I missed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, we went, I may have to go back seven years to when I really, really, really enjoyed it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, I was like, oh man, for a second there, it made me think about the stuff that we were watching in like 2017 through 2019 timeframe.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This was the match I wanted at the continental classes of my final, did I felt like it didn't get?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, I thought that match was good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Very good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But this match is great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, this was the match that I was hoping that we would get between needs to eventually, uh, that they would, that they would, uh, unpack their deliverables and way it out for all to see.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we got it back with that in the match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And now around a point where those two can

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you think Big Dave gives us five?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I was thinking that he was going to give it five, but there's a couple other matches.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he's going to give five.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I asked him point blank later on in this show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Where I look like I don't know the answer to this, but how many shows have you given more than

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was like, you're kind of quiet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're like, I'm not sure about this show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But it could.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's hard to believe.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would have thought that some of those new Japan shows the timeframe we're talking about we've had multiple five star matches.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like three, five star matches.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I was thinking maybe like a couple of EW shows had like three, five stars, but you have that there's that they've only had two, five star matches.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I just couple of these, I'm not gonna, you guys can wait till Thursday, but there's a real chance here that this one breaks a scale.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he's going to get so much shit for it, too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm here for it, you know, like, I watch he shows, I agree with him when he we're watching it, so by the time he comes out, put the stars on, they're like, I'm not, who am I arguing with?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was there with the chorus, and I agreed with that one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's his opinion.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't care, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it's it's the,

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[SPEAKER_00]: You better give Roman Reigns and Jacob for two, five stars.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're a bad guy, you're a bad guy, you're a bad guy, you're a bad guy, you're a bad guy, you're a bad guy, you're a bad guy, you're a bad guy, you're a bad guy, you're a bad guy, you're a bad guy, you're a bad guy, you're a bad guy, you're a bad guy, you're a bad guy, you're a bad guy, you're a bad guy, you're a bad guy, you're a bad guy, you're a bad guy, you're a bad guy, you're a bad guy, you're a bad guy, you're a bad guy, you're a bad guy, you're a bad guy, you're a bad guy, you're a bad guy, you're a bad guy, you're a bad guy, you're a bad guy, you're a bad guy, you're a bad guy, you're a bad guy, you're a

57:33.876 --> 57:56.817
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, we already talked about Athena in and meet a not much to say about that match Athena wins with the O face mox against Calarali I thought Calarali like just how his body looked in shape he actually looked like he trained for a fight rather than for a wrestling show that it looked really good conglomeration pep talk to start the the match and I think Roddy pulled out the

57:57.998 --> 58:05.821
[SPEAKER_00]: that one of the championships out of the bag and was like, hey, we're just leaving space for for another one or something like that in his backpack.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Jim Ross, this was the only match that Jim was on, right?

58:09.283 --> 58:12.284
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and it wasn't, it wasn't perfect.

58:13.464 --> 58:15.725
[SPEAKER_01]: He couldn't remember Kylo Riley's game a couple of times.

58:16.506 --> 58:19.747
[SPEAKER_01]: And I felt bad that that had happened, but

58:20.620 --> 58:46.269
[SPEAKER_01]: I did appreciate you seeing Jim Roth coming out there and talking for a few minutes and then yeah nice to hear a friend of voice yeah so it will talk it will talk it on that this was this and the women four-way match I felt were the two matches on the show that had the most uphill battle of getting people to care and you're you go from crazy plunder and then a classic

58:50.010 --> 58:52.032
[SPEAKER_00]: to submission.

58:53.052 --> 58:53.953
[SPEAKER_00]: Transition.

58:53.973 --> 58:54.834
[SPEAKER_01]: You had Athena.

58:54.854 --> 59:02.920
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that's right before and then this one, like it was a flow methodical match, but by the time, you know, we were at.

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[SPEAKER_01]: 10, 12 minutes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They had the crowd.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it was really good.

59:09.366 --> 59:11.548
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's really good match.

59:11.928 --> 59:30.342
[SPEAKER_01]: And Kyle Riley, he, he's going to have the struggle against the guidance, but he is so incredibly talented with his fluidity and transition with wrestling moves and submissions and hope that he just doesn't get enough credit.

59:32.473 --> 59:42.875
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he can't really keep up any momentum because he just continues to get hurt, you know, like he like he has that great momentum by beating.

59:44.131 --> 59:46.773
[SPEAKER_00]: mocks and then it's like where do you go?

59:46.793 --> 59:47.234
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, exactly.

59:47.254 --> 59:47.734
[SPEAKER_00]: He's heard again.

59:48.215 --> 59:49.696
[SPEAKER_01]: The just a guy part of it, too.

59:49.756 --> 01:00:01.066
[SPEAKER_01]: Like even when he was when Adam Cole was gone in NFT and they tried to like put him front in the center and then he decided that we even come to AEW.

01:00:01.907 --> 01:00:09.373
[SPEAKER_01]: It's still just kind of felt like they had tapped into that part of the charisma that made him feel like a front in the center kind of guy.

01:00:12.599 --> 01:00:16.400
[SPEAKER_00]: So fun submissions, fun transitions.

01:00:17.121 --> 01:00:22.243
[SPEAKER_00]: There was a Kylo Riley went from an arm bar to an ankle lock.

01:00:22.823 --> 01:00:24.303
[SPEAKER_00]: There was a little bit of a striking battle.

01:00:24.364 --> 01:00:27.305
[SPEAKER_00]: Mox hits the death rider, goes for the rear naked choke.

01:00:28.065 --> 01:00:34.027
[SPEAKER_00]: But then I think Kylo Riley transitioned that into an ankle lock.

01:00:35.268 --> 01:00:36.688
[SPEAKER_00]: Then Mox grabbed the ankle.

01:00:36.708 --> 01:00:38.349
[SPEAKER_00]: So then a double ankle lock going.

01:00:41.592 --> 01:00:44.973
[SPEAKER_00]: He's got the ankle lock on, his ankle is locked in.

01:00:45.594 --> 01:00:49.035
[SPEAKER_00]: He goes for a somewhat of a roll-up.

01:00:49.475 --> 01:00:56.798
[SPEAKER_00]: And as he goes for the roll-up, when Mox kicks out, Kyle Riley loses his ankle lock.

01:00:57.158 --> 01:00:58.619
[SPEAKER_00]: So now, it's a Mox with the ankle lock.

01:00:58.659 --> 01:01:01.360
[SPEAKER_00]: I think he may have even transitioned into a heel hook.

01:01:02.080 --> 01:01:03.301
[SPEAKER_00]: Great vines, the leg.

01:01:04.041 --> 01:01:05.121
[SPEAKER_00]: Kyle's got nowhere to go.

01:01:05.141 --> 01:01:06.462
[SPEAKER_00]: He has to tap out.

01:01:07.142 --> 01:01:08.364
[SPEAKER_00]: Max was so happy.

01:01:09.665 --> 01:01:18.876
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know how much of that was shoot or or work, but he fired up like he was John Mackenrow, you know, just won a five set or on his knees throwing his arms up.

01:01:18.956 --> 01:01:19.957
[SPEAKER_00]: I thought that was pretty funny.

01:01:20.738 --> 01:01:21.860
[SPEAKER_00]: And then he's got to hang out.

01:01:22.080 --> 01:01:26.645
[SPEAKER_00]: He's got to wait to because he's watching Osprey because Osprey's next against Simone Joe.

01:01:27.426 --> 01:01:53.133
[SPEAKER_01]: And did they see a nice touch, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh

01:01:58.307 --> 01:01:59.728
[SPEAKER_00]: Osprey and Somo Joe.

01:01:59.888 --> 01:02:01.490
[SPEAKER_00]: I really liked Somo Joe in this match.

01:02:01.890 --> 01:02:04.812
[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, man, this dude is keeping up with him.

01:02:05.573 --> 01:02:14.399
[SPEAKER_00]: He is, there was one moment where Osprey was hitting the ropes and Somo Joe in midhitting the ropes is almost like, oh, shit.

01:02:14.419 --> 01:02:15.300
[SPEAKER_00]: I need to speed up.

01:02:16.321 --> 01:02:23.626
[SPEAKER_00]: I saw it in his face, but man, you know, first for a guy that was hurt himself and hasn't really done a whole lot.

01:02:24.587 --> 01:02:26.609
[SPEAKER_00]: I thought Somo Joe was really good in this match.

01:02:27.797 --> 01:02:36.843
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, so Osprey jump starts hits hits and with the Oscar immediately and then Joe gets him back with the stiff elbow.

01:02:36.943 --> 01:02:38.003
[SPEAKER_00]: I thought that was awesome.

01:02:38.744 --> 01:02:51.432
[SPEAKER_00]: Super physical with Joe just going after the neck just bullying him just a step ahead of will the entire way and then will need it to kind of find that thing and fire up which did a couple times.

01:02:52.112 --> 01:02:53.593
[SPEAKER_00]: Will goes for another Oscar and Joe walks away.

01:02:53.613 --> 01:02:55.094
[SPEAKER_00]: Perfect fusion of two great thoughts.

01:02:55.114 --> 01:02:55.414
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:02:55.434 --> 01:02:55.794
[SPEAKER_00]: Perfect.

01:02:55.814 --> 01:02:57.195
[SPEAKER_00]: And then what did he put Will in after that?

01:02:57.215 --> 01:02:58.396
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, it was the, uh, the cover club, the cover.

01:02:58.416 --> 01:03:11.423
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the,

01:03:12.602 --> 01:03:15.784
[SPEAKER_00]: Joe with some great friggin' slaps to the face.

01:03:15.844 --> 01:03:20.226
[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, man, that's probably gonna give someone a concussion more than your fake punches dude.

01:03:20.266 --> 01:03:21.366
[SPEAKER_00]: They were so stiff.

01:03:22.167 --> 01:03:26.489
[SPEAKER_00]: And then he follows it up with a tornado punch.

01:03:26.629 --> 01:03:29.730
[SPEAKER_00]: Then we talked about Osprey's struggling styles clash.

01:03:29.910 --> 01:03:31.211
[SPEAKER_00]: Props to both of those dudes.

01:03:31.291 --> 01:03:32.051
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my God.

01:03:32.191 --> 01:03:37.094
[SPEAKER_01]: I would, when he flipped and he walked him out.

01:03:37.134 --> 01:03:38.414
[SPEAKER_01]: Then chives, I would, oh God.

01:03:39.955 --> 01:03:47.443
[SPEAKER_01]: they held off your life and they hit it and I know in Joe rolled over and he leaned up.

01:03:47.483 --> 01:03:52.027
[SPEAKER_00]: He was like, hey, so I can come up with that.

01:03:52.047 --> 01:03:59.034
[SPEAKER_00]: Hidden Blade for two count went for a second one and Joe turned it into a beautiful power slam.

01:04:00.195 --> 01:04:01.736
[SPEAKER_00]: Then Joe had the Runecket choke.

01:04:02.156 --> 01:04:06.018
[SPEAKER_00]: Three arm raises, so it wasn't a referee's discretion on this one.

01:04:06.038 --> 01:04:13.941
[SPEAKER_00]: It was the three arm raise rule as the third R. As the it's going down for the third time, will it falls on the rope.

01:04:13.981 --> 01:04:15.242
[SPEAKER_00]: So he breaks it up.

01:04:15.902 --> 01:04:17.283
[SPEAKER_00]: Joe goes for the muscle buster.

01:04:18.083 --> 01:04:26.470
[SPEAKER_00]: Osprey, hidden blade, Joe Kickout at one, which is the thing that I was like, man, I wish they would didn't do it that way because it's because of how awesome the Ocaro one was.

01:04:27.130 --> 01:04:30.973
[SPEAKER_00]: And then another hidden blade for the W for will.

01:04:31.554 --> 01:04:38.840
[SPEAKER_00]: And this wasn't a snow Joe showcase, but I thought snow Joe was awesome, even better than I thought will was in this match.

01:04:39.400 --> 01:04:40.321
[SPEAKER_00]: And it just goes to

01:04:46.848 --> 01:05:11.805
[SPEAKER_00]: You have someone like Samoa Joe, and by the way, Samoa Joe has been a world champion, so I'm not saying that he's not at a certain level, but Samoa Joe himself, I think when you think about main Avengers because you are going over your heels who are ahead of Kevin Knight, Samoa Joe's like one of the greatest wrestlers I've ever seen, and I don't even think about him in that way right now, but this dude is amazing.

01:05:16.703 --> 01:05:19.665
[SPEAKER_01]: he never touches the world title again.

01:05:20.566 --> 01:05:29.553
[SPEAKER_01]: Like it's okay, we all know you've had a hell of a run like doing whatever you've done and he can punch it don't take into whatever he walks for the rest of his life.

01:05:30.512 --> 01:05:45.102
[SPEAKER_01]: But, if that particular and special kind of wrestling talent, that if the entire roster were to be plagued with injuries, they could put the belt on him to borrow and no one would play good eye.

01:05:45.342 --> 01:05:49.906
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he and Mox are kind of like those guys, for you're like, okay, something happened.

01:05:49.966 --> 01:05:51.747
[SPEAKER_00]: We need help, yeah, those are the guys.

01:05:52.948 --> 01:05:55.830
[SPEAKER_00]: It's Joe's another guy, WWE tried to retire.

01:05:56.270 --> 01:05:57.171
[SPEAKER_00]: Can you just go?

01:05:59.092 --> 01:06:03.833
[SPEAKER_01]: They are for a company that doesn't like to leave cracks in the door.

01:06:03.873 --> 01:06:05.534
[SPEAKER_01]: They sure will crack in the door.

01:06:05.594 --> 01:06:05.834
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:06:07.054 --> 01:06:11.795
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, Swarvan Bandito, lots of lots of great spots in this match.

01:06:11.815 --> 01:06:13.155
[SPEAKER_00]: We'll go through a little bit more quickly.

01:06:14.376 --> 01:06:18.497
[SPEAKER_00]: There was a centon to the outside while Swarv was on a chair.

01:06:19.857 --> 01:06:28.539
[SPEAKER_00]: That looked nasty, but I didn't really see the greatest version of it to know if it was a bad one for Bandito.

01:06:29.559 --> 01:06:38.684
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, house call from his shoulders, swir was on top of Bandito's shoulders, house call and then a swir stop for a two.

01:06:39.024 --> 01:06:43.506
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what, I know that they wouldn't do this because they like having long-ish matches.

01:06:43.987 --> 01:06:47.709
[SPEAKER_00]: If it ended there, I would have been totally happy.

01:06:47.729 --> 01:06:52.051
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I was like a house call and then a swir stop and he kicked out.

01:06:52.731 --> 01:06:53.672
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, man.

01:06:54.872 --> 01:06:55.753
[SPEAKER_01]: I should have ended them.

01:06:56.797 --> 01:07:00.321
[SPEAKER_00]: my favorite part about this match was actually the crowd shots.

01:07:00.561 --> 01:07:08.509
[SPEAKER_00]: They showed some tremendous reactions to some of these moves that these dudes were doing and the crowd was just with all of this stuff.

01:07:09.250 --> 01:07:12.693
[SPEAKER_00]: So, Bandito hit a reverse her canrona down to the floor.

01:07:13.714 --> 01:07:17.678
[SPEAKER_00]: Bandito hit a 21plex, but he at this point he was selling his neck.

01:07:18.138 --> 01:07:25.325
[SPEAKER_00]: So as he's going for the bridge and said this is a little similar to the to the Derby thing to again, you know, we talk about the producing of this stuff.

01:07:25.765 --> 01:07:31.430
[SPEAKER_00]: He's selling his neck and he can't hold the bridge and then he starts, you know, trying to get the tingling in his fingers.

01:07:32.331 --> 01:07:44.030
[SPEAKER_00]: uh... and then uh... he goes for twenty one plexigain caught in the vertebraic or sore hits the house call and sore moves on though it was a good match i don't know if it was the

01:07:45.282 --> 01:07:52.685
[SPEAKER_00]: equivalent of sort of trying to kill this man, you know, last week or whatever, but it was a good match for sure.

01:07:53.305 --> 01:08:00.048
[SPEAKER_01]: It couldn't live up to what Offspray and Slojo tried to do.

01:08:00.108 --> 01:08:02.428
[SPEAKER_01]: So they went and did something pretty different.

01:08:02.448 --> 01:08:05.770
[SPEAKER_01]: Like it was way more of an athletic kind of sprint.

01:08:05.790 --> 01:08:09.571
[SPEAKER_01]: Like they were both going real hard for the majority of the match.

01:08:09.611 --> 01:08:12.832
[SPEAKER_01]: And it feels like Swerve has kind of been able to

01:08:14.873 --> 01:08:29.978
[SPEAKER_01]: Figure out the increased mass and his speed a little bit better than when he came back and he was just large and kind of awkwardly managing the the the way the way of body would have changed with all the increased muscle cope.

01:08:30.418 --> 01:08:36.660
[SPEAKER_01]: I felt like he kind of got that a little bit right at that ship and then Ben Dino, man

01:08:37.729 --> 01:08:39.651
[SPEAKER_01]: he is just an athletic freak.

01:08:40.432 --> 01:08:50.481
[SPEAKER_01]: And watching some of the things that he does in this match and then, you know, selling that his neck is hurting, even though it's really not, it's like, you honestly instrument a seller.

01:08:51.021 --> 01:09:02.432
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think we all kind of knew that Swerve was gonna be winning the match and Mandito was there to give him a great match and Mandito did a fact, give him a great match.

01:09:04.844 --> 01:09:12.605
[SPEAKER_00]: So then we had the women's four way and I'll give them credit because on paper, I was not interested in this.

01:09:12.965 --> 01:09:13.906
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought the over-delivered.

01:09:14.846 --> 01:09:22.887
[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like this techler run is kind of on the download, I don't know why it's a book that way.

01:09:23.787 --> 01:09:27.308
[SPEAKER_00]: I know we had the matches with stat, which were given time and they were good.

01:09:28.268 --> 01:09:30.768
[SPEAKER_00]: But she feels like a bigger star

01:09:35.508 --> 01:09:39.821
[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, they don't, they don't have the star power to elevator.

01:09:41.967 --> 01:09:48.232
[SPEAKER_00]: I would just let the woman talk just let her keep talking, you know, part of it is also the crew that she's with who are mid-carters.

01:09:48.352 --> 01:09:49.933
[SPEAKER_00]: So they kind of bring her down a little bit.

01:09:49.993 --> 01:09:52.055
[SPEAKER_00]: But she's got the goods, man.

01:09:52.095 --> 01:10:00.781
[SPEAKER_00]: And you know what, I think she's going to have even more success when she turns baby face because during this match, Chris Stattlander was doing the big bully, big girl spots.

01:10:01.141 --> 01:10:03.403
[SPEAKER_00]: And she was just throwing a tecler around.

01:10:03.443 --> 01:10:06.485
[SPEAKER_00]: And it would work so much better if tecler was actually the baby face.

01:10:06.625 --> 01:10:08.627
[SPEAKER_00]: And Chris was the heel when they were doing those moves.

01:10:12.306 --> 01:10:35.445
[SPEAKER_00]: early on I mean just you know it's a it's a four way and and some of the I'm not a big fan of four ways because a lot of times it's like just set up to get one on one matches and everyone has to like take a take a powder and pretend that they're selling on on the outside, but in this match I thought they did a really good job of keeping the action going.

01:10:36.518 --> 01:10:43.141
[SPEAKER_00]: And it was, to me, it was stat and Tecla who were kind of keeping, you know, keeping all the things together.

01:10:43.922 --> 01:11:02.951
[SPEAKER_00]: So the main moment in this match is Shida hit a knee on stat and it was sort of supposed to be accidental, I guess, but you know, Shida is quasi-heal and stat is kind of, like, she's like, I know you're probably not,

01:11:03.960 --> 01:11:09.446
[SPEAKER_00]: on my team, but I don't know if you're completely turning, but stat gets really pissed that this happens.

01:11:10.086 --> 01:11:21.037
[SPEAKER_00]: In a four way, every woman for herself, stat gets really mad that she has to take this knee, which we're not 100% sure if it was meant for stat.

01:11:21.137 --> 01:11:24.060
[SPEAKER_00]: Jamie Hayter hits the Hayter Aid on

01:11:27.407 --> 01:11:31.710
[SPEAKER_00]: If this match isn't over, it might as well be because Tecla might not get up anyways.

01:11:31.970 --> 01:11:36.573
[SPEAKER_00]: She's stuck her with this hatred and then Shita interferes.

01:11:36.834 --> 01:11:41.757
[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, oh, she does, you know, kind of taking advantage of these opportunities.

01:11:42.738 --> 01:11:46.320
[SPEAKER_00]: So, uh, then that's when Stat and she just started brawling.

01:11:48.202 --> 01:11:54.586
[SPEAKER_00]: Stat has, uh, has a pin and she to break it up by hitting her in the back of the head with the

01:11:56.373 --> 01:12:04.699
[SPEAKER_00]: And as a Shida and Hater are brawling, Tecla then uses a stop on stat after the Kindle Stick shot to win.

01:12:04.719 --> 01:12:05.859
[SPEAKER_00]: So I like the finish.

01:12:06.019 --> 01:12:07.641
[SPEAKER_00]: I thought all that was very creative.

01:12:08.381 --> 01:12:11.983
[SPEAKER_00]: I think the one negative that folks might have with this match.

01:12:12.063 --> 01:12:20.329
[SPEAKER_00]: And I thought Shida was good in the match, but she hasn't been great leading up to it.

01:12:21.363 --> 01:12:24.006
[SPEAKER_00]: However, I will give her credit and I've given her credit in the past.

01:12:24.827 --> 01:12:36.402
[SPEAKER_00]: The personality shift in the promos where she's speaking English and like that stuff to me is effort when you are a jep, you know when you're when you're

01:12:36.942 --> 01:12:57.409
[SPEAKER_00]: Japanese woman portrayed as Japanese have mostly spoken Japanese and now you're speaking English and you're showing some different pieces to the character I just think the problem is that she is not as good of a wrestler as she once was and so that might be holding her back for from a character standpoint Like this is the most interested I've been in the sheet of character.

01:12:57.429 --> 01:13:03.712
[SPEAKER_00]: It says I'm just not as interested to see her wrestle So I thought she played a perfect role in this match

01:13:04.854 --> 01:13:23.238
[SPEAKER_00]: being kind of the reason, you know, even if it was accidental, but the reason why the baby face lost was because of Shida, it could take a little bit away from Tecla, but Tecla is the the smallest heel champion who always finds a way to win.

01:13:23.258 --> 01:13:26.318
[SPEAKER_00]: So I thought that was really good for this match as well.

01:13:26.338 --> 01:13:29.439
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, look at that.

01:13:29.459 --> 01:13:30.099
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought this match.

01:13:30.845 --> 01:13:31.946
[SPEAKER_01]: completely over delivered.

01:13:33.048 --> 01:13:47.106
[SPEAKER_01]: I wasn't going into it thinking, you know, they could have just done a one on one match and really tried to like sell that and it feels like they're trying to hide the flaws in the women's division by putting four of the women in there.

01:13:47.646 --> 01:13:49.128
[SPEAKER_01]: And when, you know, she doesn't

01:13:50.403 --> 01:13:53.666
[SPEAKER_01]: I haven't listened into the fight game pod and I agree with you guys.

01:13:53.726 --> 01:14:00.511
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like her character is good, but her wrestling has not been like good at all.

01:14:00.952 --> 01:14:10.199
[SPEAKER_01]: She either got rusty and lost a bit or maybe she never had it and either got better wrestlers than her caliber, whatever it may be.

01:14:10.219 --> 01:14:16.164
[SPEAKER_01]: I will say tonight, she was able to hang with the rest of the wrestlers in this match

01:14:19.867 --> 01:14:23.132
[SPEAKER_00]: She was like the reason why the she was she was the big story land reason.

01:14:23.152 --> 01:14:32.326
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, she was She was a connective tissue of why of how everything kind of played out and I really did I really did appreciate that part of it for her and I think that

01:14:33.623 --> 01:14:38.986
[SPEAKER_01]: She's got a nice little niche role going forward in the company.

01:14:39.026 --> 01:14:47.171
[SPEAKER_01]: And I feel like she's just kind of taking note by watching Ascle O'Cotta and trying to turn it into the women's division.

01:14:47.512 --> 01:14:49.893
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's not a bad thing to do.

01:14:50.553 --> 01:14:50.693
[SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm.

01:14:51.134 --> 01:14:51.354
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:14:51.514 --> 01:14:52.635
[SPEAKER_00]: I like to character for sure.

01:14:52.655 --> 01:14:52.955
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:14:53.535 --> 01:14:54.056
[SPEAKER_00]: By the way.

01:14:54.076 --> 01:14:54.156
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

01:14:55.689 --> 01:15:06.278
[SPEAKER_00]: This Owens cup, I know why Hater and Statlander aren't in the Owens cup because they had this match and they wanted to kickstart this tournament with brackets before the pay for view.

01:15:07.119 --> 01:15:21.172
[SPEAKER_00]: However, we've only had one match in this tournament could Chris Statlander and Jamie Hater been added to this tournament with an Azsterics that said, if either of them one.

01:15:22.352 --> 01:15:25.893
[SPEAKER_00]: They would be the champion and thus no longer be in the tournament.

01:15:26.173 --> 01:15:34.736
[SPEAKER_00]: I'd rather see either of these two women rather than Persephone, rather than Hazuki, who I don't even know who that is, rather than Sky Blue.

01:15:35.877 --> 01:15:41.759
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm intrigued with Suri, but I don't know if any, I know A, W, has smart audience.

01:15:41.999 --> 01:15:49.522
[SPEAKER_00]: Some people know Suri, but Suri is not gonna be over in that building when she comes out because people are gonna be like,

01:15:50.630 --> 01:15:51.951
[SPEAKER_00]: I have no idea who this person is.

01:15:53.071 --> 01:15:54.792
[SPEAKER_00]: They need to start building her.

01:15:55.112 --> 01:15:58.693
[SPEAKER_00]: I hope we see a video package of Suri before she actually has a match.

01:15:58.973 --> 01:16:11.699
[SPEAKER_00]: But those other wrestlers, I'm just like, give me stat or handhater in this tournament because I'm looking for a tournament that is going to be a well wrestled tournament.

01:16:12.019 --> 01:16:17.661
[SPEAKER_00]: And those are two of the best women's wrestlers in all of AEW and they are missing from this tournament.

01:16:19.320 --> 01:16:36.347
[SPEAKER_01]: You're almost inclined, even though they both had their shop to get tech love in the past, you know, Stalin or Los Cytotour, haters had a couple, you're almost inclined to make the wild card match, hate or reverse a statland or for the wild card spot.

01:16:37.527 --> 01:16:41.189
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, like, if you don't have a new one else, like, well,

01:16:42.416 --> 01:16:46.637
[SPEAKER_01]: You lost the title well, maybe you can, maybe you can earn your way back with this wild cut spot.

01:16:46.957 --> 01:16:49.137
[SPEAKER_01]: And so they now can on time, right?

01:16:49.197 --> 01:16:52.638
[SPEAKER_01]: Then in one week on time, they're going to wrestle for the wild cut spot.

01:16:52.678 --> 01:16:57.699
[SPEAKER_01]: And then the week after, they'll wrestle, uh, outwins or I think is the thing.

01:16:57.979 --> 01:17:06.580
[SPEAKER_01]: And then you have this scenario where potentially Jamie Hader versus outwins going into it, or Chris, stat winter versus outwins.

01:17:06.600 --> 01:17:07.340
[SPEAKER_00]: Why is Megan

01:17:12.704 --> 01:17:17.208
[SPEAKER_00]: Willow had multiple titles.

01:17:17.228 --> 01:17:24.954
[SPEAKER_01]: I think essentially the plan is to have divine dominion versus the brawling burns at all in.

01:17:25.154 --> 01:17:29.017
[SPEAKER_01]: And so he just didn't want her to lose for any reason.

01:17:29.037 --> 01:17:31.559
[SPEAKER_01]: What clever when he knew that that was the ultimate.

01:17:31.579 --> 01:17:34.021
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's that's that's that's probably smart.

01:17:34.582 --> 01:17:38.245
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just looking at the people who are actually in this tournament and I'm going like,

01:17:39.785 --> 01:17:42.947
[SPEAKER_00]: Are we punting this entire tournament like what's going on there?

01:17:43.207 --> 01:17:55.714
[SPEAKER_01]: I think I think I think willow was Then game here and There there if a complete restructuring of this entire web of division going at all and All right two more matches.

01:17:55.734 --> 01:17:58.716
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's see if we can get them done in within the next 15 minutes.

01:17:58.856 --> 01:18:00.557
[SPEAKER_00]: I think matches are doing as mentioned along.

01:18:00.577 --> 01:18:01.078
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, stay.

01:18:01.098 --> 01:18:01.638
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm stampede

01:18:02.900 --> 01:18:11.106
[SPEAKER_00]: What did you think of the demand wearing the baseball uniforms to look like the warriors from that movie?

01:18:12.327 --> 01:18:20.854
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought of the warrior and the Boston Red Scott, like a few of the boxing colors a little bit as well on their dreams.

01:18:20.914 --> 01:18:22.134
[SPEAKER_00]: 1979, the warriors.

01:18:22.575 --> 01:18:29.700
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, because I think the warriors, the guys who are wearing the baseball uniforms are supposed to kind of sort of look a little bit Yankee-ish.

01:18:32.337 --> 01:18:33.618
[SPEAKER_00]: that I thought that was kind of cool.

01:18:34.138 --> 01:18:35.459
[SPEAKER_00]: So they did these two videos.

01:18:35.499 --> 01:18:38.020
[SPEAKER_00]: These two video packages before the match started.

01:18:38.861 --> 01:18:49.506
[SPEAKER_00]: The heel video package was fine, cool, but the baby face video package was awesome like we said until to me Omega.

01:18:52.028 --> 01:18:53.989
[SPEAKER_01]: What did that video package remind you of?

01:18:55.337 --> 01:18:57.239
[SPEAKER_00]: Somebody wrote about it in the discord.

01:18:57.299 --> 01:19:04.044
[SPEAKER_00]: I forget what they said, um, somebody said, Oh, maybe no, she's loving someone said something else.

01:19:11.023 --> 01:19:14.245
[SPEAKER_01]: And I can see, I can see, read the word out to you if they all wear soups.

01:19:14.805 --> 01:19:17.787
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and then, but they all have like Mr. Black, and Mr.

01:19:17.828 --> 01:19:20.549
[SPEAKER_01]: Pink, and Mr. Brown, and so all that.

01:19:20.670 --> 01:19:33.679
[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't know, I'd it felt like oh, she's loving everyone still had their own personality and each one of the video, like, introduction was really showing off their personality and part of the bigger group.

01:19:33.719 --> 01:19:37.421
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's why I felt like it was more oh, she's 11, but I'll take either.

01:19:37.461 --> 01:19:38.362
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm really fine with that.

01:19:38.703 --> 01:19:44.366
[SPEAKER_00]: Kevin Ely says snatch and better wild, but that wouldn't be wrong either.

01:19:45.106 --> 01:19:51.629
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, very creative Jericho and those other guys are pretty good at this stuff.

01:19:51.689 --> 01:19:52.970
[SPEAKER_00]: So I wasn't surprised.

01:19:53.210 --> 01:19:58.293
[SPEAKER_00]: They were all kind of dressed in suits and and such during this entire match.

01:19:58.353 --> 01:20:04.496
[SPEAKER_00]: So everyone is just picking on Ricochet in the beginning of this match and in the end of this match.

01:20:04.936 --> 01:20:06.877
[SPEAKER_00]: He's kind of the ping ball ping pong ball.

01:20:08.285 --> 01:20:21.915
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, I know you're not into a shoe culture necessarily, but Shelton Benjamin was wearing what they call the bloodline Jordan 12s.

01:20:23.476 --> 01:20:32.102
[SPEAKER_00]: The bloodline Jordan 12s are not technically Roman Reigns shoe, but Roman Reigns does

01:20:36.747 --> 01:20:38.568
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, they're black and red, like you can imagine.

01:20:38.588 --> 01:20:41.950
[SPEAKER_00]: So that their Roman reigns related.

01:20:41.970 --> 01:20:43.571
[SPEAKER_00]: Just that was interesting.

01:20:43.611 --> 01:20:47.694
[SPEAKER_00]: Shelty B, where in the bloodline 12's, which just came out yesterday, I think.

01:20:47.754 --> 01:20:50.776
[SPEAKER_00]: So he got, you got to hook up.

01:20:53.498 --> 01:21:01.243
[SPEAKER_00]: Toa had Matt Nick and Jack on his back and then gave them the Simone drop.

01:21:02.228 --> 01:21:12.636
[SPEAKER_00]: There was an abdominal stretch chain move on Omega is the abdominal stretch specifically supposed to hurt your diverticulitis.

01:21:13.777 --> 01:21:21.824
[SPEAKER_01]: It's really smoke to like they like cut and re-sell and just take out bar could it just be a contender not stretching you know stretch your scar tissue.

01:21:22.224 --> 01:21:25.607
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you know that's a better break.

01:21:25.647 --> 01:21:28.649
[SPEAKER_01]: It just kind of stretches.

01:21:30.598 --> 01:21:52.817
[SPEAKER_00]: uh... elite there was an elite to pay suicita with all three uh... the box and uh... omega diving and then shelton Benjamin was like i'm not too old for this brother that did his flip dive over the top um... and i think Jericho might have done uh... i guess i better do this one too off the top for all he did for

01:21:54.404 --> 01:22:14.662
[SPEAKER_01]: I saw a show year ago where Shelton Benjamin did athletic moods like this, WrestleMania 21 the first one in the bank ladder match he will jump in all over the ladder is a name jumping over the over to the side of like it's kind of reminds me of that he's he's like so coordinated that's ridiculous athletic marble

01:22:16.773 --> 01:22:41.816
[SPEAKER_00]: uh... there was a uh... leo rush sighting in in the back room there with uh... bobby lash through the car but he jumped on the back of one of the uh... gates of agony guys don't remember which one unnecessary but i guess kind of like a easter egg for a w fan's in some of the w we for for a long time wrestling fan because they were in that table together yes w

01:22:44.172 --> 01:23:11.091
[SPEAKER_00]: uh... on drawday was trying to do a selfie in the crowd luchersaurus kind of jumped in there a little bit of a cock block at the same time i don't think that was cool you can't be mess with on drawday's ladies man that it was a good pay off to it to a bit that they could probably you know the the Rick riddness is getting a little longer to the two i enjoy it but you know it would get gag at the right right place right time

01:23:12.426 --> 01:23:16.317
[SPEAKER_00]: Jericho suplexed ricochet on top of some tennis balls.

01:23:21.937 --> 01:23:25.581
[SPEAKER_01]: Really, they really went heavy on the tennis balls tonight.

01:23:25.621 --> 01:23:39.853
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, in stadium for where they were at tennis balls, by the way, for those of you who do work out a fair bit, you kind of use them to break up muscle soreness and stuff.

01:23:39.873 --> 01:23:44.357
[SPEAKER_00]: So probably not doesn't feel great to just randomly fall on them, but

01:23:45.256 --> 01:23:50.438
[SPEAKER_00]: good in a pinch to kind of rub out like a little bit of a muscle shoulder sort of this is for that.

01:23:50.758 --> 01:23:51.778
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm going to have four.

01:23:51.878 --> 01:23:56.900
[SPEAKER_01]: Albert, I was reporting that this match was limited by rule from the New York state.

01:23:57.220 --> 01:23:59.301
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I'm sure it was.

01:23:59.481 --> 01:24:03.603
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm actually happy because if not, it would have been a bloody mess.

01:24:03.903 --> 01:24:04.083
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:24:04.263 --> 01:24:05.303
[SPEAKER_01]: No brawling in the crowd.

01:24:05.323 --> 01:24:06.404
[SPEAKER_01]: That's why that didn't happen.

01:24:07.004 --> 01:24:08.285
[SPEAKER_01]: That was that prohibited.

01:24:08.305 --> 01:24:12.166
[SPEAKER_00]: So I wish they did all of their matches in front of the New York

01:24:16.192 --> 01:24:17.213
[SPEAKER_01]: roll to here guys.

01:24:19.114 --> 01:24:21.676
[SPEAKER_00]: So they had Davis and Jack Perry.

01:24:21.896 --> 01:24:23.297
[SPEAKER_00]: They were hanging out in catering.

01:24:24.058 --> 01:24:25.459
[SPEAKER_00]: Who was the guy who did the?

01:24:25.479 --> 01:24:26.079
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

01:24:26.480 --> 01:24:27.260
[SPEAKER_00]: No idea.

01:24:27.300 --> 01:24:28.301
[SPEAKER_00]: That whoever that nerds.

01:24:28.341 --> 01:24:29.182
[SPEAKER_01]: Beek of the week.

01:24:31.844 --> 01:24:34.606
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, but that this wasn't the most ridiculous thing.

01:24:35.807 --> 01:24:42.111
[SPEAKER_00]: As these dudes are fighting on Draw Day and Jack Perry and Mark Davis are just fighting.

01:24:43.562 --> 01:24:49.846
[SPEAKER_00]: Sodom saying is just eating like so he doesn't like any friends He's eating by himself and catering.

01:24:50.067 --> 01:25:10.841
[SPEAKER_00]: He's not bothered at all But it looked like he was just eating a giant cake like that Imagine it was cereal like just eating a bowl of cereal Well because he got pushed into whatever he was eating and then it showed up on his face So I thought it was cake But maybe it wasn't cake

01:25:11.541 --> 01:25:15.565
[SPEAKER_00]: And so then I thought, I was like, oh, man, I'm dried as a dead man.

01:25:16.585 --> 01:25:20.209
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I was in AEW catering, not too long ago.

01:25:21.470 --> 01:25:25.653
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, Tommy invincible was the guy that Ryan or Guy Ryan Howard said.

01:25:27.315 --> 01:25:30.177
[SPEAKER_00]: I was I was in the resting of

01:25:37.863 --> 01:25:40.964
[SPEAKER_00]: So I was in AWS catering when they came to San Jose.

01:25:42.005 --> 01:25:46.906
[SPEAKER_00]: And so to see Satin sing in person, you're just like, what is going on here?

01:25:46.926 --> 01:25:51.408
[SPEAKER_00]: Like how is this, how are we the same species of human being extradiculous?

01:25:51.808 --> 01:25:59.151
[SPEAKER_01]: But every of you see somebody that's exceptionally large, not just like tall, but like really, really tall and very disquieting.

01:25:59.551 --> 01:26:03.272
[SPEAKER_01]: Like I thought, I thought I would tall, but may you wear a large human being.

01:26:03.753 --> 01:26:04.713
[SPEAKER_00]: Is that just tall?

01:26:05.742 --> 01:26:06.822
[SPEAKER_00]: And he's not just big.

01:26:07.863 --> 01:26:09.543
[SPEAKER_00]: He's also very muscular.

01:26:09.623 --> 01:26:11.844
[SPEAKER_00]: Like it's like everything that makes you go.

01:26:12.444 --> 01:26:13.404
[SPEAKER_00]: That must be somebody.

01:26:13.824 --> 01:26:15.885
[SPEAKER_00]: He's got every single thing of that.

01:26:16.625 --> 01:26:21.507
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm saying, okay, so then they start a food fight.

01:26:21.647 --> 01:26:22.887
[SPEAKER_00]: He just yelled food fight.

01:26:22.927 --> 01:26:23.887
[SPEAKER_00]: He'd start throwing food.

01:26:23.907 --> 01:26:24.727
[SPEAKER_00]: But it was a short one.

01:26:24.747 --> 01:26:26.408
[SPEAKER_00]: We didn't see a lot of food fighting happening.

01:26:27.047 --> 01:26:31.050
[SPEAKER_00]: Clark Connors got put in a shopping cart rolled down the aisle.

01:26:32.932 --> 01:26:34.613
[SPEAKER_00]: Nick, super kicked him.

01:26:34.633 --> 01:26:36.034
[SPEAKER_00]: He had a garbage can on his head.

01:26:36.975 --> 01:26:39.297
[SPEAKER_00]: Ricochet was in Jericho with a tennis racket.

01:26:40.257 --> 01:26:44.981
[SPEAKER_00]: Dr. Luther showed up, gave Jericho a super sized tennis racket.

01:26:46.682 --> 01:26:51.086
[SPEAKER_00]: Mark Davis, I think he almost got murdered in a bus collision.

01:26:56.862 --> 01:27:12.403
[SPEAKER_00]: Hulk Hogan and the rock before Russell Mania 18 all over again, like in the silliness of it, but I think actually rock was supposed to be in that vehicle when it got hit, Mark Davis escaped because it showed up 30 seconds later in near ring side.

01:27:12.603 --> 01:27:28.393
[SPEAKER_01]: That whole bit where they tried to tell you like he almost walked an eye, like I thought that was real at first and then they prematurely wasn't by wrapping his entire head in a bandage and then I think it was in the rest of the match doing that.

01:27:28.413 --> 01:27:35.797
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, shouldn't, okay, if you're going to do some comedy with Mark Davis, shouldn't

01:27:40.346 --> 01:28:03.909
[SPEAKER_00]: people are head over heels about just he's got this giant ass and that couldn't they have done some ass humor with this guy like because his ass is so big something happens like like they didn't they said I thought that was like you probably should have like landed in a bowl of back like a like a tray of back and she is and then like dumb splashes on people with like the back of not even funny

01:28:05.527 --> 01:28:13.877
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, then, then, you know, Kenny Omega was like, I know I know I started off the silliness with choking on cigar smoke, but I'm going to get serious in here.

01:28:14.658 --> 01:28:20.444
[SPEAKER_00]: He does three of the most awesome snap dragon suplexes inside the ring.

01:28:21.527 --> 01:28:31.997
[SPEAKER_00]: He hits a one-winged angel through the table from the top rope to the outside on on drought a like as these guys are like wrestling like doing all the stuff and all the stunts.

01:28:32.937 --> 01:28:41.926
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just like I just want to see Omega and on drought a continued like that's where I want the camera to be like I wanted to focus on those guys because they're kind of taking the stuff seriously.

01:28:43.026 --> 01:28:46.130
[SPEAKER_00]: So everyone then hits their move on Rick Shay in the ring.

01:28:46.711 --> 01:28:48.653
[SPEAKER_00]: Jericho's about to go for the Judas effect.

01:28:49.414 --> 01:28:53.058
[SPEAKER_00]: Bishop pulls Rick or pushes Rick out of the way.

01:28:54.039 --> 01:28:58.465
[SPEAKER_00]: Only to have to eat an eight person super kick.

01:28:59.617 --> 01:29:02.259
[SPEAKER_00]: everybody drills in with this super kick.

01:29:03.040 --> 01:29:06.823
[SPEAKER_00]: And then finally Jericho hits him with the lion salt to win the match.

01:29:07.843 --> 01:29:17.131
[SPEAKER_00]: Shelty B Bobby Lashley and MVP give a thumbs up to the crowd, which I think was supposed to be for Jericho.

01:29:17.891 --> 01:29:22.715
[SPEAKER_00]: And then Jericho has the most shitty and grin on his face and puts his own thumbs up there.

01:29:23.456 --> 01:29:26.238
[SPEAKER_00]: And then in a very cool moment though,

01:29:27.076 --> 01:29:35.442
[SPEAKER_00]: If you if you weren't in on understanding what this was, it probably seemed really silly, but I'm glad X caliber explained or no, Taz explained it very quickly.

01:29:36.863 --> 01:29:39.005
[SPEAKER_00]: Jericho just jumps through one of the tables.

01:29:39.505 --> 01:29:55.196
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, the kind of like, yeah, kind of like when Kota Abushi was in that match and in that blood and guts match and after the match was over, just decided to take a back bump on the glass for no reason whatsoever, it kind of was like that, but then.

01:29:56.308 --> 01:30:00.595
[SPEAKER_00]: Tas explained that that was a salute to Sebu and Jericho pointed in the air.

01:30:00.895 --> 01:30:01.957
[SPEAKER_00]: So that was really nice.

01:30:02.618 --> 01:30:10.591
[SPEAKER_01]: The other one that they did that can be able to get was Omega, the buck, and Jericho, often in the rain included.

01:30:11.663 --> 01:30:13.585
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's because they were all founding fathers.

01:30:13.805 --> 01:30:20.973
[SPEAKER_01]: So they're doing the founding fathers moment of saluting in a UW together, like, uh, founding fathers.

01:30:21.073 --> 01:30:27.579
[SPEAKER_01]: And then you had Jack Gary with the back of onions, you know, Crimea River people didn't seem to get that one either.

01:30:27.699 --> 01:30:33.225
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, like, when Brian and Dave were explaining it on Wrestling is a radio, they were like,

01:30:34.518 --> 01:30:42.147
[SPEAKER_01]: They were in farm country like what's I what out told I flat out told Dave today Like oh that does make sense of like

01:30:45.572 --> 01:30:52.678
[SPEAKER_00]: It's makes more sense than, oh, he's a farmer now, farmer Jack Perry.

01:30:52.698 --> 01:30:58.222
[SPEAKER_01]: Like Dave, he hit it with the bag of onions because onions make you cry, cry me a river.

01:30:58.363 --> 01:31:09.331
[SPEAKER_01]: And then, literally at that moment, the audience on the, on the match is like, oh, cry me.

01:31:09.591 --> 01:31:12.594
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm, I'm the wrong fan for this kind of match.

01:31:14.800 --> 01:31:20.965
[SPEAKER_00]: I generally do not like this stuff, I enjoyed myself in this matter.

01:31:20.985 --> 01:31:21.946
[SPEAKER_00]: It was a lot of fun.

01:31:22.446 --> 01:31:32.574
[SPEAKER_01]: I very much wish that there was a scenario in which I truly understood the difference between anarchy and the arena and state of the state of the state of the state.

01:31:32.594 --> 01:31:37.638
[SPEAKER_01]: Other than anarchy and the arena, they played against uncontrolled music for at least 10 minutes.

01:31:37.978 --> 01:31:38.599
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah.

01:31:40.460 --> 01:31:52.886
[SPEAKER_00]: I preferred this to Eddie Kingston coming out with a flamethrower or whatever, looking like death, like I preferred this way over some of those really, really violent anarchy in the arena matches.

01:31:52.946 --> 01:32:01.330
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think I think Stadium Stampede had more of a fun vibe to it, because I remember, you know, that first stadium Stampede where it was Jericho's group

01:32:07.433 --> 01:32:10.516
[SPEAKER_01]: But it was also recorded overnight during COVID.

01:32:10.556 --> 01:32:23.487
[SPEAKER_00]: What yeah, it was kind of the thing that wrestling fans were very happy to see because of we were all Yeah, and so lying and and like you're all flying because state of Stanford was recorded.

01:32:23.507 --> 01:32:25.028
[SPEAKER_01]: You almost think that it was going to be like that again.

01:32:25.388 --> 01:32:32.935
[SPEAKER_01]: But it's very similar to anarchy in the arena other than anarchy in arena has something that should think that state of Stanford is not going to do.

01:32:34.156 --> 01:32:34.396
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

01:32:34.416 --> 01:32:35.037
[SPEAKER_00]: Then the main event.

01:32:36.430 --> 01:32:37.270
[SPEAKER_00]: MJF and Darby.

01:32:38.911 --> 01:32:46.854
[SPEAKER_00]: Darby does a dive outside immediately like we said, MJF moves and I thought that matches over before it even started.

01:32:47.215 --> 01:32:53.477
[SPEAKER_00]: How this dude got back up after falling right on the back of his head and his neck and his body just crumbling over him.

01:32:53.557 --> 01:32:54.578
[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, oh my god.

01:32:55.138 --> 01:32:56.458
[SPEAKER_00]: But he was fine.

01:32:57.379 --> 01:32:59.600
[SPEAKER_00]: Did you lose audio in the main event?

01:33:00.060 --> 01:33:00.240
[SPEAKER_00]: No.

01:33:01.237 --> 01:33:21.529
[SPEAKER_00]: uh the the the program like buffer a couple times during the uh squirming band you don't match but that would really the only issue we had because i lost audio a couple times but i don't know if it was because i fit fast forward and then it was like trying to catch up but it was a couple times that i couldn't hear what was going on but uh it came back

01:33:22.757 --> 01:33:25.260
[SPEAKER_00]: Darby goes for the coffin drop on the apron.

01:33:25.340 --> 01:33:26.942
[SPEAKER_00]: Max moves out of the way.

01:33:27.743 --> 01:33:30.265
[SPEAKER_00]: We mentioned MJF's package pile driver on the ring steps.

01:33:30.285 --> 01:33:31.387
[SPEAKER_00]: You're so brutal.

01:33:32.388 --> 01:33:36.873
[SPEAKER_00]: Darby with a low blow and a headlock takeover for a really fun two count.

01:33:36.893 --> 01:33:38.214
[SPEAKER_00]: I thought they did that very well.

01:33:39.351 --> 01:33:58.079
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, you know, if you're a stickler for things like a 10 count on the outside, maybe you were a little frustrated during this moment, but they were outside for a long time, so they could set up the spot for Derby to jump off of the scaffold and coffin drop max through the table.

01:34:09.278 --> 01:34:14.519
[SPEAKER_00]: Darby had to drag this man all the way back inside the ring so he could hit another coffin drop.

01:34:15.339 --> 01:34:16.959
[SPEAKER_00]: But Max kicked out.

01:34:18.019 --> 01:34:20.400
[SPEAKER_00]: Darby then puts on the scorpion death lock.

01:34:21.200 --> 01:34:23.380
[SPEAKER_00]: And he gets dizzy falls forward.

01:34:24.841 --> 01:34:28.661
[SPEAKER_00]: MJF hits him with the jumping tombstone from the little rope.

01:34:29.101 --> 01:34:30.202
[SPEAKER_00]: And it does the side.

01:34:30.382 --> 01:34:32.082
[SPEAKER_00]: Headlock take over to win the match.

01:34:32.662 --> 01:34:34.862
[SPEAKER_00]: And then we mentioned the Kevin night after

01:34:40.342 --> 01:34:49.169
[SPEAKER_00]: How would you describe or portray this very short, Darby title run?

01:34:50.610 --> 01:34:59.857
[SPEAKER_01]: I think you think the phrase, not here for a long time, but here for a good time, and you know, wrestle till the wheel of fall off, all of these that,

01:35:01.830 --> 01:35:12.873
[SPEAKER_01]: Just make sure that like you are living in the moment rather than worried about tomorrow is just the best analogy that I could really explain the whole jar of everything.

01:35:13.033 --> 01:35:22.757
[SPEAKER_01]: I just think JF and Darby both came out of this feud better than they entered it going into it.

01:35:24.497 --> 01:35:26.758
[SPEAKER_01]: I think Darby, in particular,

01:35:27.767 --> 01:35:29.967
[SPEAKER_01]: That's been solidified and legitimized.

01:35:30.568 --> 01:35:32.648
[SPEAKER_01]: One, he can win the title again at any point.

01:35:33.108 --> 01:35:36.629
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, like it has been proven that he can do this and it will work.

01:35:37.509 --> 01:35:51.772
[SPEAKER_01]: Number two, I think he, I think there was a goal at some point to turn him into the modern neighbors and of like the Stinger Undertaker, which was a bold goal, but the idea being

01:35:52.815 --> 01:35:57.920
[SPEAKER_01]: When Darby's music hits, you're like, oh, fuck me, Darby's here.

01:35:58.600 --> 01:36:00.542
[SPEAKER_01]: And my shit is ruined.

01:36:01.203 --> 01:36:10.871
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think that kind of the energy that he has now and he can be in a world title picture at any point, everything across the board.

01:36:13.377 --> 01:36:21.948
[SPEAKER_01]: Just his talk is so high now that he has just a world title conversation like at all time.

01:36:22.328 --> 01:36:27.394
[SPEAKER_01]: And for mjf I find it very, very fascinating that he is having a better year, he is

01:36:28.623 --> 01:36:54.370
[SPEAKER_01]: wrestling as they have no one can truly take him out and he has taken an unbelievable amount of punishment and we are headed to a showdown with a guy that has been booked like he cannot take an unbelievable amount of punishment as much as he like tries and this is quietly a story that they're kind of building with this intersection that I find fascinating with how they're

01:36:56.505 --> 01:37:11.605
[SPEAKER_01]: every one of the imaginative he's had is the champion like ungodly about the punishment and coming through the under other and eventually where we'll offer a not quite the same story and he's the guy that they're trying to set up to be the champion.

01:37:11.625 --> 01:37:13.928
[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's a really interesting kind of little narrative.

01:37:14.409 --> 01:37:15.349
[SPEAKER_01]: thing that they're doing.

01:37:16.010 --> 01:37:17.110
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought the match was great.

01:37:17.310 --> 01:37:23.172
[SPEAKER_01]: I think the Darby experiment was in no way shape or form in any way a failure.

01:37:23.232 --> 01:37:24.933
[SPEAKER_01]: It was a complete and utter success.

01:37:25.633 --> 01:37:29.535
[SPEAKER_01]: I wasn't convinced it was a good idea going in, but I was wrong.

01:37:29.795 --> 01:37:30.895
[SPEAKER_01]: This was fantastic.

01:37:31.055 --> 01:37:38.138
[SPEAKER_01]: I had a great time with that, and I'm going to follow my court and say, hey, you know what?

01:37:38.238 --> 01:37:40.919
[SPEAKER_01]: They made a bold decision and every step of

01:37:44.217 --> 01:37:47.878
[SPEAKER_00]: validated by it created way more interest for the show too.

01:37:48.239 --> 01:37:48.459
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

01:37:49.779 --> 01:37:50.479
[SPEAKER_00]: I am with it.

01:37:50.699 --> 01:37:52.260
[SPEAKER_00]: He did a fantastic job.

01:37:53.140 --> 01:37:57.362
[SPEAKER_00]: He needed tremendous job with his short run.

01:37:58.422 --> 01:37:58.622
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

01:37:58.642 --> 01:38:00.903
[SPEAKER_00]: We have two paper views before all in.

01:38:01.924 --> 01:38:06.545
[SPEAKER_00]: We have forbidden door and what we think is going to be this retrovolution show or whatever it is.

01:38:07.186 --> 01:38:10.847
[SPEAKER_00]: What is what is max doing on these next two shows?

01:38:11.694 --> 01:38:32.120
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, I definitely think that I think it's a myth to go next week, but I think myth to go and draft for that title is the match that you do because you don't want to burn like one of the main baby face roster people in that position right now, because you don't want to burn that equity for them.

01:38:32.840 --> 01:38:36.841
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, could you run Darby back at some point before I'll in?

01:38:37.858 --> 01:38:41.063
[SPEAKER_01]: uh, maybe in July, but I would give it like a little bit of a break.

01:38:41.563 --> 01:38:55.101
[SPEAKER_01]: I do think though the next time Darwin goes for the title, it should be a real question whether he wins it, whether rather that feels like you're gonna lose and the book before all in feel like

01:38:57.411 --> 01:38:59.212
[SPEAKER_01]: Why would you do that match unless he's winning?

01:38:59.252 --> 01:39:01.393
[SPEAKER_01]: And if you're not winning, why would you set him up to lose?

01:39:01.913 --> 01:39:04.175
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, he already lost a title like a month ago.

01:39:04.235 --> 01:39:13.460
[SPEAKER_01]: And the situation being different, but if he is coming in and he's not wrestling till the wheel fall off, it is presumably healthy.

01:39:13.520 --> 01:39:16.141
[SPEAKER_01]: Like that actually weakened him as he loses.

01:39:16.561 --> 01:39:19.763
[SPEAKER_01]: Like it changes the whole dynamic of how you produce the whole thing.

01:39:20.743 --> 01:39:23.525
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, for the July paper view,

01:39:24.816 --> 01:39:29.079
[SPEAKER_01]: kind of depends on where they are, who they're wrestling.

01:39:29.539 --> 01:39:43.248
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, if you look at people on this one, it can't really be anybody in the Owen that moves it because why would they get a title shot after that?

01:39:44.329 --> 01:39:47.551
[SPEAKER_01]: So maybe that's your four way.

01:39:48.752 --> 01:39:51.034
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe that's the month you do a four way with a bunch of randoms.

01:39:56.126 --> 01:40:00.750
[SPEAKER_00]: he could do omega 2 and there are still holding out.

01:40:00.830 --> 01:40:15.184
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, there's still people that are holding out that they're holding in a role of all in is going to be omega Osprey, but at this point, do you want to do omega winning the title in the next month of losing it to Osprey?

01:40:15.284 --> 01:40:18.047
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I just I think at this point like

01:40:18.762 --> 01:40:25.576
[SPEAKER_01]: We're hot potatoing a lot if we go like there's no reason for MJF to be a three-time champion just a little bit immediately.

01:40:26.818 --> 01:40:28.602
[SPEAKER_00]: But he's still probably losing in a summer, right?

01:40:29.910 --> 01:40:31.051
[SPEAKER_01]: three month is better than two.

01:40:31.872 --> 01:40:42.741
[SPEAKER_01]: And if you move it, if you want the title back to the guy you walked it better than you know, losing it to another guy is a little bit like a little blip on the on the calendar there.

01:40:42.881 --> 01:40:48.386
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like he called oral abstract and but it's like you'll often guy got it right back.

01:40:48.706 --> 01:40:50.648
[SPEAKER_01]: And the way that you walked it,

01:40:52.144 --> 01:41:02.590
[SPEAKER_01]: It's all fun, but I would not use that as an excuse to do it again before all it, like that title win, you kind of need to protect it at this point.

01:41:04.731 --> 01:41:10.934
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you could burn guys, but they've already done some of these matches on TV like Brody King.

01:41:10.994 --> 01:41:11.535
[SPEAKER_00]: They've done that.

01:41:11.715 --> 01:41:12.155
[SPEAKER_00]: You could burn.

01:41:12.175 --> 01:41:14.617
[SPEAKER_00]: You could totally burn him and not worry about him.

01:41:14.937 --> 01:41:19.019
[SPEAKER_00]: He's not going to win, but he did have two matches.

01:41:21.787 --> 01:41:38.456
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, who else is in that mix from the baby face standpoint otherwise I would go and down that day it's like Like you do a thing with maybe like weren't Cassidy and a couple other people and like a four way you know, but Right it just

01:41:39.658 --> 01:41:41.379
[SPEAKER_01]: Brody King, it's time out of the question.

01:41:41.459 --> 01:41:42.980
[SPEAKER_01]: Ben Dito feels out of the question.

01:41:43.120 --> 01:41:45.801
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because he's just not clean, but he's already got a belt.

01:41:45.841 --> 01:41:47.362
[SPEAKER_01]: And he can't really lose that belt.

01:41:47.382 --> 01:41:50.424
[SPEAKER_01]: He's been protected from losing while he's had that.

01:41:50.484 --> 01:41:55.907
[SPEAKER_01]: So you start going down the line here and like Kevin Night would have been a great candidate, but now he's a heal.

01:41:57.408 --> 01:42:00.450
[SPEAKER_01]: Speedball doesn't really feel like he's at that main event level.

01:42:00.870 --> 01:42:04.392
[SPEAKER_01]: Then you start getting to, oh, you know what?

01:42:05.638 --> 01:42:11.600
[SPEAKER_01]: What if it took guy from WWE because they do it after the 90 days, and that like July 24th?

01:42:13.180 --> 01:42:13.461
[SPEAKER_00]: Who?

01:42:14.941 --> 01:42:18.042
[SPEAKER_00]: Cobb?

01:42:18.082 --> 01:42:19.002
[SPEAKER_00]: The being a great match.

01:42:19.182 --> 01:42:23.084
[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, you know, with with the way that MJ Anthem talked shit about.

01:42:23.984 --> 01:42:25.704
[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, you could do that.

01:42:26.645 --> 01:42:30.026
[SPEAKER_00]: I was thinking, uh, you could totally burn Jericho too.

01:42:30.786 --> 01:42:31.886
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, you could do Jericho.

01:42:32.507 --> 01:42:32.987
[SPEAKER_01]: You could run that.

01:42:34.643 --> 01:42:37.546
[SPEAKER_01]: He still has to be, he still has to be ricochet won't control.

01:42:37.907 --> 01:42:38.387
[SPEAKER_00]: I think so.

01:42:38.487 --> 01:42:39.148
[SPEAKER_00]: I think so too.

01:42:40.449 --> 01:42:41.951
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, Jeremy, that was fun.

01:42:42.412 --> 01:42:42.632
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:42:43.337 --> 01:43:00.075
[SPEAKER_01]: I am always enjoying getting together with you to have a conversation about the AEW paper view because it's always something to unpack because now we've got to figure out the next month worth of stuff where the dynamite shows just kind of like, I don't know what we're got, man.

01:43:00.315 --> 01:43:00.976
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:43:01.076 --> 01:43:04.580
[SPEAKER_00]: And also we'll see what happens with forbidden door because I'm assuming

01:43:05.661 --> 01:43:08.863
[SPEAKER_00]: I will be at that show as media.

01:43:08.883 --> 01:43:09.503
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:43:09.843 --> 01:43:11.644
[SPEAKER_00]: I know you're trying as well.

01:43:11.744 --> 01:43:15.547
[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't, you know, we may have to do that post show a little bit differently.

01:43:15.667 --> 01:43:18.028
[SPEAKER_01]: I was thinking maybe we do it on the Monday morning.

01:43:20.586 --> 01:43:22.168
[SPEAKER_00]: could definitely work.

01:43:22.908 --> 01:43:27.572
[SPEAKER_00]: I would have to make it work around my work schedule like do it on my lunch break or something, but we could.

01:43:27.592 --> 01:43:43.326
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm pretty much pretty that whole time, but there was definitely an aspect of that where it's not too difficult to get home from where we're at on that thing, but it's definitely take time and the energy of being at the show and talking to people and then coming and do this.

01:43:44.640 --> 01:43:52.585
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not a eerie picture, so I would be open to doing a potential Monday morning breakdown.

01:43:53.521 --> 01:44:05.530
[SPEAKER_00]: Alright, I want to shout out some of the folks who were hanging out in the chat, one of my favorites, John and Memphis, Corey 808, of course Fernando and Maria Graziella, as always hanging out with us.

01:44:06.211 --> 01:44:14.637
[SPEAKER_00]: I saw a doctor layer it in there, and of course I already mentioned Ryan Howard, my favorite recapper on F4W.

01:44:16.578 --> 01:44:34.885
[SPEAKER_00]: uh... thanks for hanging out with us was uh... it was fun it was i i got through that i just being honest i had to watch a show starting late because we had plans tonight but i got through it powered through it and uh... had fun i thought i thought it was one of the best shows

01:44:35.293 --> 01:44:51.087
[SPEAKER_00]: How dare you be a normal person and have planned for a day we get it's tough man it's tough trying to cover all this stuff for sure all right that is it from here so for Jeremy I am double G we will see you when we see you piece out