What if Hangman loses at AEW Revolution? Why does WrestleMania 42 feel so weak? | Takedown

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[SPEAKER_00]: we took a couple weeks off of takedown you were on vacation and then all last week you catching up on all the stuff you know still I'm almost caught up but okay but you did catch up with WWE enough to do the post game show with Kila on Saturday night so appreciate you doing that how hard yeah we're when we're all wind on Saturday I watch like nine hours at WWE

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, and we're going to talk about, we'll, we'll, we'll, we'll split up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll have an A W topic in a W W topic.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But before that, as kind of interested, the world baseball classic, since Canada is not necessarily one of the superpowers in baseball, though from what I am met, what I've gathered, they actually have a semi decent team.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is that, is that even on your radar, the world baseball classic?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah, no, I'm I'm looking forward to it like I'm not going to watch any of this exhibition stuff like I think the I think they're playing tomorrow against the fillies, but yeah, but I'm I'm interested like there's there's not like there's some names on this team, I mean I'm looking at the roster right now, I mean there's definitely a lot of names, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But you know like this the starting life.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's kind of like that U.S. lineup like it starts out really good and then you get to the bottom and you're like, oh, okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There is there a good amount of major league baseball players on the on the team.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, I mean, most, you know, you got Josh Nailer, auto Lopez, Tyler Black, Bow Nailer, Cal Contro, I mean, you know, they're not super stars, the one guy that we kind of hope was going to be playing for Canada, but I don't know if he's playing for

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[SPEAKER_01]: Puerto Rico or Dominican Republic, like Vadi, like he was born in Canada.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So he could play for Canada.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he's playing on the Dominican Republic team.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, there you go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, and that's probably because his dad played for them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, that hurt.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, like they'll be, you know, they'll be plucky, James Faxton.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll be a bit of a blast from the past.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't even know he's still playing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Mike Soraka, you know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Say yeah, they'll be alright.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think they'll win, but, you know, they beat the US.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What was it?

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[SPEAKER_01]: 2004?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we kind of cleaned that ass.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I just, you know, we had this whole thing where, you know, Jeff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: dressed up as like Apollo Creed from Rocky One on the dynamite show because the U.S. Olympic hockey team beat Canada and I just didn't know if like, you know, from the baseball side if things were hot and heavy with a, yeah, I mean, I'm a big time baseball guy too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I, it's maybe more on my radar than it would be, you know, the general person walking the street, unlike the Olympics where like

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I didn't see the final audience, but I know in 2010 when they won the gold medal and it was in Salt Lake, like it was it's the most highest rated television show in the history of Canada, like I think 25 million out of 37 million people watched it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We are not going to talk about baseball or hockey on this show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was just interested because Paul and I had not had a chance to chit chat outside of the discord, so.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, not not much no.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I do have my team USA hat.

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[UNKNOWN]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I bought it during the last WBC, which was three years ago, and then I wore it and then Mike Trout decided to strike out against Showhail Tone to lose the game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, if she'll hold your little Tony played for anybody with the Dodgers, he'd be your favorite.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, if he was played for the Giants, he'd be my favorite player.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But he might be like my favorite player all the time, like that would be the best.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like because he's, you know, because he's your background.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we're split it up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we're going to let's kick off the with the AW topic and Paul has a what if.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And this what if is something I'm struggling with a ton.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the what if is, what if Hangman page lost to MJF at AEW Revolution?

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[SPEAKER_00]: To me, like immediately, I just think, oh my gosh, it's like the worst idea in the world.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But you have a different thought.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'll let you cook with this story and then I'll kind of chime in when when I hear exactly what your cake is here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So there's there's I coming at this from a couple different perspectives.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now number one, just on the surface and it's funny because I I was kind of following things from a distance without having actually watched dynamite because I was on the holidays when when that whole thing went down.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And and I was reading the comments about resting observer radio and I made a comment about like you used to something about oh mjf has to win and then you correct the day to you mean hangman right and then I jumped in I was like well obviously mjf's got a win.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I didn't know about the challenge.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the stiff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, so and then you said oh yeah, well they kind of gave it away and then you know I figured out what was actually going on

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I mean, number one, you know, like the company is doing so well right now, I mean, I'm not sure about business, although I think they're doing good, better business, I definitely know the creative is better things are better with mjf on top.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It makes us show more interesting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's more creative.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So number one, I think taking the title off of mjf right now would be a mistake.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and that doesn't even factor in the fact that the previous two times hangments had the title have been kind of underwhelming.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then you also say, well, if he wanted hangman as a title, then why would you even had MJF beat him in the first place?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Why didn't you just have hangman retain at Worlds?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And this is literally the next paper view.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So there's that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But putting that aside, forget what I am gonna interrupt you for a second.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you remember when

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and we were like, WTF is going on here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Dave goes on up to River Radio and he's like, what the hell, like I didn't get that one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then, you know, he did his little subtle, not so subtle.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's like, oh, I, I, I understood, you know, I after after talking about it, or I forgot, but I forgot how he, after Max D. I'm gonna ask.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, whomever he talked to.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Tony or Max or somebody else.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He was like, it makes sense.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, well, how does it make sense?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he's like, well, if you put the belt on mjf and then you have all of these baby faces chase mjf.

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[SPEAKER_00]: right make sense and I go okay that that does make sense but the flip side of that was when hangman won the belt hockey minute and have heel challenges ready for him and so maybe the idea of hangman was simply to conquer the John Cena storyline and then after a couple of months

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[SPEAKER_00]: go back to MJF and this chase because you have you have a better cast of baby faces chasing the title than then you do heels.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it could be that, but it's just funny because, you know, if we harkin' back to that Samojo beating hangman, we were all like, well, what?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Why the hell did that happen?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so now we are here where we are saying, MJF should keep the title, like he's been very good for the title.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So then, okay, so you put that aside, that's number one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's kind of the more like superficial reason.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now you get into, okay, it's a bad idea to have Hangman lose and not be ever able to challenge for the title again.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, you, you brought up Cody Rhodes, that's the obvious comparison.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they even brought it up on, on dynamite lastly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I say that I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Tony Khan has decided and perhaps even hangman page himself realizes that he is not the guy to be holding that title.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's had it before.

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[SPEAKER_01]: When he has it, he is not positioned as the face of the company.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's generally somebody else and his matches are generally not the focus of the company when he's a champion.

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[SPEAKER_01]: When other people of the champion, when Moxie was a champion, when right now

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[SPEAKER_01]: Omega Sam punk when he was champion, you know, you can go on and on and all these other people that were the folks of the company with hangman he's not so in this case if you take that

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[SPEAKER_01]: temptation off the board and say, okay, he can't challenge for the title anymore.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to move on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And as you said, there is a crop of baby faces ready and waiting to challenge a heel mjf, um, you know, you've got they've been working on Brody King.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, obviously, well,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, I'll spray and even like to catch that if he turns or you know Kyle if he turns like there's people and and MJ have to kind of guy that could even go against the heel and you know and play that role so I just think that I think the guy to beat hangman or sorry to beat MJF should be either will I spray if he's ready by all in or can you omega.

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[SPEAKER_01]: to me, those are the two guys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't think Hangman should be beating because I think if Hangman beats them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: they're just going to take the title off him fairly quickly and put it on one of these heels again, you know, whether it's Swerve or M.J.F.

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[SPEAKER_01]: or, you know, maybe even Joe when he comes back, like, who knows, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: God, that would be terrible.

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[SPEAKER_01]: On Drawday, you know, is another one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Brody King is somebody that's been coming on and he's getting some momentum, you know, behind them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So Kevin Knight is getting a title shot on Wednesday, and he's somebody they clearly are arrested

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, if, you know, you have the step and so Cody or Cody hangman loses and is never able to challenge the title again and you know, I hate people hate when you do this, but there is a way to get out of it if you want to.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they've done this in the past and not even in WWE because WWE's bad for steps, but

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[SPEAKER_01]: In companies where they did on her steps, you have a situation where two years down the road, maybe MGF's a champion again, and Hangman is really pissing them off and he wants to wrestle Hangman and hangman's like, no, you know what?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm never allowed chance for the world title again.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You have MGF demand that he defends a title against Hangman

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[SPEAKER_01]: and hang that's like no, I'm not doing it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I said I was never going to challenge myself.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not doing it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm just, what do I got to do to get you to do?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And finally, you get hangman to say, fine, I will challenge you for your title.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But if I lose, I retire forever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then so you add that step, you go on top of the never being able to challenge for the township.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then you can have a win.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like if that's what you want, you know, two years down the road.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But that's just what if you don't even ever have to do that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I'm just saying like you don't have to completely close the door and him never being able to challenge.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I just think I think the company would be better off.

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[SPEAKER_01]: not having hangman in that position anymore.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I agree with what you've said that he's a strong challenge, but I just don't think he's a strong champion.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, unfortunately.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I have a I have an idea almost that I would be I'm pretty confident that they would do something like this, but like let's say hangman does lose and

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[SPEAKER_00]: mjf does antagonize him after because of the fact that he cannot he cannot face him again, and you know, maybe they wait a year and mjf is still you know, just been antagonizing him for over a year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They've already have this in canon.

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[SPEAKER_00]: My man, hangman just shows up in front of MJF's house with some gasoline and a lighter and he's like brother I'm about to burn your house down right now because he's done it before and and.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, I mean, and you know what and the the other thing is too, and I didn't even mention this hangman not being in the world title picture would free him up to do something interesting with swerve and you've got swerve has been I think in can and he is over the edge like he's just he's he's off the rails and if you had a hangman that lost mgf and is never able to challenge for the world title again he could be off the rails as well and those two as an audit control kick ass

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[SPEAKER_01]: Basically, he'll tag team that everybody loves.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that could be super interesting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And potentially, that team could even headline paper views, you know, with the, for the tag team titles.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Again, you know, and they've got ultimate, you know, like young bucks, FTR, Brudito, like all kinds of great tag teams that they could go against.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you could literally headline, and this is something that you promised when they started that the tag team titles were going to be a main event belt.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, now you could do that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: My bad fan, if I don't necessarily prioritize and watch the show, which show a revolution.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I'm not watching it, but do you know why I may not watch it?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm assuming it's something personal or it's the Oscars.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, is that Mark's face?

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're running head to head with the Oscars.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Wow.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, my God.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's a bad name.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And like normally,

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[SPEAKER_00]: I could always like watch the Oscars late and fast forward, but it is like the one show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: that my wife kind of likes to watch the award show and you've like I mean as long as I've known you Which you know going on 10 years now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think maybe longer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think you've ever been more into movies than you are right now I it's it's become like a big-time hobby for me to yeah like it so I mean you could watch it You know the next day or after she goes to bed or something, but you know that's not the same Yeah, so I'm kind of leaning towards maybe

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[SPEAKER_00]: watching some of it and then prioritizing the Oscars and then watching it later.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It starts earlier, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oscars is actually at like starts at four or something like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because you, okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you get them live.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because I'm like it's seven here, but or maybe six.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, well, I'm not, I already gone right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not watching it because it takes a death.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I have no desire to see that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'll probably watch, I think red race is that weekend.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm looking forward to that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, here's where I'm going to disagree with you from the perspective of

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, if you want to keep hang man out of the the main event picture or whatever, you don't need to do the stipulation just book him yeah outside of this this thing yeah and you know maybe Tony is protecting him from himself or something, but I think you also what happens is is you kind of level hang man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: because he is one of your big stars and then you're telling the fans well he can't really be the top guy because the top guys the one who wins a title so you kind of sealing cap him a little bit and but maybe that works as advantage where he's just the ultimate renegade of all renegades and he doesn't care and he's just

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[SPEAKER_01]: Or it opens up a spot for other people like when you did that to Cody, it opened up spots for MJF for hangman for Darby, you know, like it opened up a lot of Steven.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would like those guys that you talk about underneath him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Darby to cash at a cowfletcher, you want those guys to leapfrog him, not just go through the door because hangman steps aside, you want them to run through him, and I think in this competitive landscape.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, honestly, I don't know why we have to do this stipulation.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, we don't.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that's the thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's nothing wrong.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, you absolutely did not need to do this stipulation.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Don't get me wrong.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think the bad booking would be to have Hangman lose.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think the bad booking was to do this stip in the first place.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, so that's the other thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, people are in love with a W right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm enjoying it, too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I, this is the most I've been into a W since probably the, the hey Dave when they were the hottest.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I had a, I had a real problem with the way that they got to that stipulation because the stipulation should have just been,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I want this match and in order to get this match, then I give up my career.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was backwards.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was it was completely backwards.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like he wants to text his death match and M.J. says no, and then M.J. F can carcass.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, wait a minute.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I remember what I did to Cody.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to tell you, if you want that match, this is the only way you can do that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like that, that's, I don't understand that part, and then, like, and then we do this cockamymy thing with the double-headed coin and Tony, got to see Tony Shavani do a sad face, and then we're led to Belivo hanging men new all the way along.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He was going to outsmart him anyways.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would have just rather him forced M.J. F to show us the coin and to agree to this match because it's going to kick his ass instead of Tony Khan on the headset going like you know what we went through all of this stuff just for me to say you're going to get the match anyone was like why didn't we deal with this?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I mean, and they, I mean, if you want to, if you want to be critical, they, they false advertised they literally said that they have to agree on something and they didn't agree on it so in that sense like really hang that shouldn't even really have to put up maybe maybe that's the way to get out of it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I got that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe that's what's on Dynamite this week is hangman's like, oh, by the way, since you cheated.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I'm, no, I'm just going to set out a tweet and tell us how dumb we are and say, no, no, this is what happened.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that was the other part where everyone.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I was asking so many questions.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I literally watched it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I did the recap with Dave.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was asking him He had some sort of idea which made me think that somebody told him how it was supposed to go and I was like, okay That's not what I saw on television and then people on our discord again because at AW's hot people are enjoying it They were like, oh, yeah, it was very clear x-finesy and I was like

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[SPEAKER_01]: I haven't even watched the show and I knew what they were doing and then when I watched the show I was confused.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so and it's funny now because I'm listening back to all the radio.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The podcast that we're done and listening to Dave and Brian try to figure out what was going to happen on Wednesday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like hilarious because Dave's like, Dave's in his head thinks there's more steps come.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like, okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they, they, yeah, yeah, the, you know, and I don't know that that's necessarily good booking.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What's going to save it is that they're going to have a great match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then people are going to go see this was fantastic.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, yeah, this is what happens.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they'll probably do a good buy rate.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's what I'm rooting for.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What I'm rooting for is for that buy rate.

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[SPEAKER_00]: to be strong.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like because I think I think they said last year they did like 135 on 40.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then they've been doing 135 140 and above for these random shows like these worlds in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, this should do 150.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, if that's really hot, I think that this does a stronger by right year over year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that would be a good indicator.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that would tell us because we're trying to figure out

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[SPEAKER_00]: And this wasn't going to be one of the tops who did remind me of something.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So this paramount and Warner Brothers, blending of these companies, this merger.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was listening to some industry experts, let's call them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they were talking about how much money David Ellis and is trying to save

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[SPEAKER_00]: through synergy, through, you know, we saw it with UFC where, you know, you have two companies and then you're like cutting out a lot of the jobs that that two people do that are the same.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they're going to do the same thing and even in a bigger way with Paramount and Warner Brothers, like these a lot of these Warner Brothers people, they're just going to get

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[SPEAKER_00]: there's not going to have jobs anymore.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so the conversation went to how do you merge HBO Max and Paramount Plus.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're not going to go, hey, we're Paramount Plus.

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[SPEAKER_00]: we're going to put all of our stuff on the HBO Max app and we're going to use their app.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's not how they're going to do it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're going to say, we're going to use our Paramount Plus app.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to pull all the HBO content and we may call it HBO Paramount or something, but it's going to be the Paramount app because this is what the guys on the Paramount team have been working on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The all the tech guys, all the all the way that it works.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so when they were talking about bleacher report, because that bleacher report tile on HBO Max, they're like, they're gonna be a bleacher report tab on this Paramount app.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like why would they do that?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because they want to use the paramount tech.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They don't want to use the HP of tech.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so then they have no idea, by the way, that AWS paper views on HBO Max.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I was like in this trial thing, and that would like, okay, so if the tech stack is going to be paramount's tech stack, do we know if they have paper view capability,

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[SPEAKER_00]: to do the A, A, A, W paper views.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I wonder if there's going to be another time where, you know, they're going to start going, oh, go to Amazon to buy our paper because we don't have it all through through our new app yet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I wonder if we're going to go through that and maybe

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[SPEAKER_00]: that they will not create the functionality of it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I hope not because I think or they just just work out a deal with with a W and put them on paramount like they do with the U of C shows, which would be, I think a positive for a lot of people again.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Until they start airing commercials during the paper using people start getting right commercials and then, you know, and Or which I would be totally in favor of because I got an argument with people on the board today about this like if it's a choice of me paying $50 for a show or having 30 minutes of commercials that I can skip

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[SPEAKER_01]: Give me the 30 minutes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You've created a process for yourself much like I have.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so that you cut through a lot of the length of that show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: A lot of people want to watch the stuff live.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But even when I'm watching, even if I'm watching UFC live, I'll just go and do something while the commercial is on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I'll go to the washroom, I'll go fix something, whatever come back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And if it means not having a pay, especially with UFC like $80,

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[SPEAKER_01]: like, yeah, no, I give me the commercials, you know?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's not that I don't like wrestling or I don't like fighting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Of course, I do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I wouldn't pay for it if I didn't, but I also don't like paying money for something that I can get for free.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think the only thing I'd be worried about, like, I'm fine with it as well, but I just be worried about that it kind of becomes more like a television show than like a special show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and I can see that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But also, like if you look at the TV these days, like, man, we're getting like one or two paper view matches every week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, I mean, I'd say that the TV isn't in that, my, the papers aren't that much different from the TV in the sense that you're getting great matches on both the only differences you don't have the commercials.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, when I see Kenny Omega do a dive to the outside, and I go, we're getting ready to go to commercial, like I don't want to feel that when I'm watching a match and that's what makes paper view so specials because you're not in that mindset.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you know, yeah, you're right about that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so in that sense, the match is definitely can be different.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just looking like they've had some incredible television matches, you know, like Mark Briscoe, Confletcher, the the Chompup matches, you know, like Kenny matches, lately, Swarve, like, this is a great year for TV for them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So let's start talking about some many of stuff

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I haven't, I've probably said this before, where, you know, you, you, you, you will say this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I haven't been this out on WrestleMania next Wednesday, and I'm sure I have before.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I like I wasn't too hot about last year for WrestleMania, but some of that was because I was going to be in Vegas, and I knew it was going to be weird, but I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This was a maniac, man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I, I, I, I, I just looked my ticket to Vegas today.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I, I know you're going to have, you said you and your son, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't know if we're going to Mania like I'm not paying for tickets.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I mean, if I can get free tickets, I'll go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I'll watch with Dave and Brian if I can.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I understand Punk and Roman to some folks that is a gigantic match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think it's, you know, I don't dislike that as a match for sure, like it's going to be good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Those guys are experts.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're going to lay it out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They got Paul, they, you know, both of them have Paul to help them, like figure out what the right things to do is, you know, to keep people on the edge of their seat.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it'll be, it's going to be better than last year's, you know, WrestleMania made of them for sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But outside of that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I'm trying to figure out what they have that is additive from like a big match perspective to where you're like, now that's a WrestleMania match, you know, that is going to be huge.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't, I don't see anything like if they do Brock and Oba.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's a good one, definitely, definitely positive.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's going to be oba's first row.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So Mania match, so maybe in hindsight, we will see that as bigger than what the build is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That could definitely open one of the two nights.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, John and I, though, talked on fight game podcasts, how is this Brock Lesnar open challenge thing?

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[SPEAKER_00]: All that, interesting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: John's like, every time nobody answers Brock Lesnar, all the baby faces, just look weak.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, yeah, yeah, I mean, maybe they just really like Janelle Graham, yeah, yeah, that and it was Logan Paul on Ross said something to the effect of, you know, I mean, good company if I'm similar to Brock Lesnar or something like that, when he was did his like short promo on Monday, young ones he's talking about the, the,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Was he talking about the young?

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[SPEAKER_00]: He was talking about the young is something.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I forget what exactly said, but he compared himself to Brock.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Wow.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So then.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And would they have Randy Orton when the elimination chamber, which I would be surprised if it ends up as Randy versus Drew, like it doesn't, it just sounds like a red herring to everybody with a, you know, that and if it's not Randy and Drew.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, if it is Randy Drew, I will get some sort of like fascination out of that because I love both of those guys, I assume that Randy would be winning if if that was the match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And maybe the idea would be get him another world title reign and you can kind of maybe push that he's going to go for seen as record or something.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I mean, that's interesting, it's just.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Does it feel like a rest of me to mean a man?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it doesn't feel like a match that will close one of the nights like it's not like when you're building the card and then you go and then Michael Cole goes coming up next ran your and Drew Mc time you're like, oh, that that should be more like a semi main not not something we're like, all right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is the match I've been waiting for all all night now another one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Jade Cargill, Jade Cargill has been getting lots of negative feedback about her current run and they decided to put her with the hottest female superstar that they have in real Ripley.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now,

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think because she's with Rhea Ripley, she will be, there will be a bigger magnifying glass on her bigger than ever, and it's WrestleMania.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's going to be bigger than ever anyways, but there's also a chance that her match has a ton of heat because Rhea is so beloved.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And if you work that match correctly with Jade as the heel, and you set up this big giant baby face comeback, I think the match could work.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But still, it doesn't feel like that marquee.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, this is, you know, this is, of course it's not Becky and Ronda, but, you know, even going back, you know, EO and Ria and Bianca, like that match felt so much bigger than this one right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Even Becky and Bianca in 22, but felt better, bigger.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think the,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think the, the match should be okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like they've got weeks to work it out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They can practice it at the PC and all that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I, I do, I do think that the match should be okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just whether or not it's going to feel like a WrestleMania, you know, main event or even a match that you would be anticipating, you know, like as a, you know, like an opener or something that, you know, let your, your,

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're watching the show specifically to see, um, you know, I'm not saying it can't.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just think it's an uphill battle at this point and live and Stephanie feels like mid card city to me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, as good as both of those women are, it just feels like it's a back Becky and AJ honestly feels like the biggest women's match and even that doesn't really get up to them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But we just saw it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, but I mean, it's it's a good story.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I like the story they're telling.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I honestly think more people want to see Becky and Jessica right now, you know, based on some of the stuff that they've been doing, but I'm trying to think of, you know, some of the other stuff that they are, you know, are we going to see Sammy and trick.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'd be Jacob for two, like there are still some loose ends that they have to tie up, but it just feels like this is a rare year and you're coming off of.

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[SPEAKER_00]: three pretty strong years, four pretty strong years for usomenia.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And what of a reason, is it too much television?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is it over exposure?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Have they burned out matches?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Are they just cold?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do people have a bad taste in the mouth from rumble being in Saudi Arabia?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is there some fear of next year?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like a little bit of impending doom with WrestleMania being

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, you've talked about it going back to Laster's Mania and I don't think you mentioned this and all the things you just said.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think a lot of it is the arrogance that they have that they think, okay, it's WrestleMania, we can charge whatever we want and we can do whatever matches we want and this thing's going to sell out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then they put the tickets on sale and they didn't sell and then they're like, oh crap, it must be the card.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's like, well, you haven't announced a card yet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it can't be the card.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But they still convince themselves it's the card.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And part of the issue, I think originally the plan was Roman and Cody.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then it was probably punk and somebody else.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that would have been your two main events.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Punk and Braun, maybe.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Punk and Braun, yeah, although Braun got hurt, then it could be punk and Seth.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you could do that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And if that was the case, if you had Roman and Cody right now, and punk and Seth, I think that would be better than where you are right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think people would be like a little bit of fatigue about Roman and Cody, you know, doing the third matching four years.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But it's still better than whatever that second main event is going to be, you know, right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think they had options.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like you had Jacob Fattu's pretty hot for a while.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Goonther was really hot after beating John Cena and they've done basically nothing with him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he's keeping his heat.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's going out there and he's doing the right thing and everything like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Goonther and AJ Styles, career match, could have been a pretty big match or WrestleMania.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But they decided to do it at rumble.

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[SPEAKER_01]: For whatever reason, well, I guess if AJ wasn't going to have a contract or something, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I don't know what went on there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But that seemed rushed.

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[SPEAKER_01]: any value out of it in terms of for that show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think they've gotten value out of good third retiring AJ and Sina, like they'll give you a lot of about that, but I definitely think that should have been a mini match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you know, they have a little bit of time, but they don't have a lot of time to get some of these things in gear.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, I do, I, I, I,

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[SPEAKER_00]: I wonder if they're going to do something big with the women's tag division because that's been fun, but it's still not really pushed as a main event.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know that's my pick, but I know you're feeling done.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's already bringing it up, but like a six-way TLC match, I think it's still.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I made a joke about the men's, the men's smack down title.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, okay, they have multiple people who are kind of in the mix.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Six pack challenge hell in the cell baby go back to the go back to Requisci get and pushed off of the the cell Onto that was that a truck of hay or yeah, but even not one like that had rocks don't call triple H fully right under You go you go Cody Drew Randy Jacob Sammy trick That's a big deal

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you could do it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I, you know, I mean, really, what does not a lot better than that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're going to do it most of the guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because, and so here's the other thing, as part of this story is Nick Aldous cannot control Drew McIntyre.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So how do you threaten Drew McIntyre?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, you tell him, like, okay, dude, like you've pushed my buttons far enough.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to put you at a major disadvantage.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And

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[SPEAKER_00]: five other guys that he wants to be champion instead of drew and it would have drew actually wins that match then he's the ultimate you know he'll champion who who's above everything like their stories coming out of that that would be interesting i don't think they're going to do it by the way but it was just i i just had i just had uh i just had uh image in my head of

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[SPEAKER_01]: conversation between, and this will be on camera, obviously.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Drew McIntyre and Nick Alis and Nick saying, you know, like you're doing all this stuff, and he said, that's it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's, you're not just going to be defending his brand New York, now you're defending against Cody as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then Drew's like,

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, you're not to put me in a match with three people that's, you know, that's stupid.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not doing it above lies and Nick's like, you don't want to face three people.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You don't want face two people.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, fine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll add Jacob fat two to their two now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Four.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then Drew's like freaking out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, no, no, no, I'm not doing it again.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's why I'm not doing it again.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, you don't want four.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, fine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We can keep going and then finally they settle on like five or six people.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can see that being pitched.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I hope it doesn't make teller.

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[SPEAKER_00]: In a way, you're basically saying, nobody is over enough to be that top match, but also you're saying, well, if you're in the same match as Cody and Randy, then you're kind of elevated up to their level and coming out of WrestleMania.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It levels up a trick in a Sammy though I you know I don't what whatever they're doing with Sammy I think it's actually go away.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Coding and Randy could have been a big WrestleMania mask yet tell that story starting last you know last year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Survivors series facing yeah you know royal rumble at the very latest, but I mean you know it'd be too late to do it now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know like and they I mean they could do something on Friday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that could lead to Cody and Randy, but like you said, it's, it's going to come out of that field if they do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you and Jeff will be back with dynamite show after dynamite and this week is the second to last dynamite for revolution because next week I think I'll be at dynamite live.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's the fantasy dynamite.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so that and yeah, and they're here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're here in like a month

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the 18th right that are they is that one there in 10 is 11 thing or is it the 11.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, it's 11.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so they yeah, they go 11th and then 18th and then 25th is St. Paul and then first is here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so yeah, MJF in Kevin night for the title tomorrow and brawl and brood's in the iconic.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they did a video promo and they said we're going to make our AW television debut on Dynamite.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Wow.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I immediately texted Jeff and told him and then he's like, what do we do to serve this?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I said we gave Tony Connip a career.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then people try to give him second place and promoter of the year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, what's going on here?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's, uh, I, yeah, that one I didn't go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I, I voted for Lutera.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you should have won.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You get, you get absolutely sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But one million people in the city might win again this year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: probably should.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think they're doing better this year than they were last year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's insane.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Although last, having a cancel a few shows this past week might not help, but that's not their fault.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, so Paul and Jeff will be up Wednesday, night after Dynamite.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The be live on YouTube, and then we'll have the audio in our podcast feed, and you can always go back to the video and play it on demand as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, for Paul, I am WG, we will see when we see you peace out.