Naomi cashes in, the fans loved Charlotte Flair, Rhea Ripley & IYO put on a classic: WWE Evolution Recap | WWE Post Game Live

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[SPEAKER_01]: Alright, we are here live WWE post game live our new branding for our post WWE shows.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We have Scott Young and Kila Cash from the rap to join me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we're going to cover evolution, but I want to give them a shout out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: because this is their second show in two nights.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then I saw that Keely even cameoed on the AEW post game live show last night.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So y'all been busy, Keely.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I like how much wrestling have you watched in the last forty eight hours?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Jesus Christ and maybe a full day of wrestling over the last day or so.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like you thought, WrestleMania weekend was wild.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This weekend was actually crazier.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Scott, you guys were on live last night after the Great American Bash, Goldberg and Gunther.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And now after evolution, which like, I know Great American Bash got more of the hype.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's the Goldberg show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was the one that they, you know, they had moved head to head with all in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think we all had kind of hoped like, you know,

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[SPEAKER_01]: evolution was going to be like the sneaky show for David to be of the weekend, which I think it was though I will admit I didn't watch great American bash.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I met Saturday night to make it not great American bash, by the way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I thought we did get that good show, but I'm so bummed because

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[SPEAKER_01]: There wasn't any real great promotion for the show until Saturday night's main event when I thought they did a really good job of bringing Bianca in and doing some video packages.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But they kind of left this one hanging and it just frustrates me because I think at least I've seen online like just the amount of praise that this show got.

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[SPEAKER_01]: has been tremendous.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So of the shows that you saw Scott, like I'm assuming you like this a lot better than Great American Bachelors last night.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, this is definitely my show of the weekend as far as WWE goes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm gonna go ahead and throw it out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This is one of the best shows they've put out all year.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I thought the women came out with something to prove.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The main event is something that we will be talking about for a while.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The match before the ref bump topped here.

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[SPEAKER_02]: After the ref bump, we're reaching another level.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then we get a finish like that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That is, that is an all-time finish, a black queen stand and tall at the end too.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Just a little cherry on top.

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[SPEAKER_02]: All the time great.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So where are we these days with the cations where it's the surprise cation that we've seen this dance thousands of times by now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, AEW has a similar Christian cage had the similar kind of a brief case for for them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So like this is now spawned multiple companies and many companies and Naomi caches in as a heel.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And just does what the last minute of the match cracks EO with the briefcase in the head.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And wins the match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I hate it when the baby face does it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's better when the heel does it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But still like I just have this issue with with changing the title in this way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, Tiffy similarly got got her championship in this way, but it sounds like you really liked it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I thought the moment was cool, but I just I still have this like issue with the title changing hands in this kind of, um, it's it's uh,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess it's a booking crutch because you have this situation with the briefcase and you're going to have to do it this way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I just, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We've seen it so many times and I'm just like, OK, like, this is what we expected as cool as it was.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I think I'm, I'm probably in the minority on this one as far as how much it worked.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Kila, what did you think of Naomi's cash in?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I did not expect it in that moment of the main event because we presume she was going for Tiffany's title.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then the complete swearover coming out there to go after Eos title, it was a great surprise.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that in this situation, that's what a hill is supposed to do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She saw Maria and Eo expend every amount of energy in this match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And she said, now it's my time to pick the bones.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's how you supposed to do a cash in as a hill.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It made sense.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Michael Cole had a very rough night.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But when he said, hey, it's triple threat match, no, no, DQ, no rules.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You can do whatever you want to do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You can use the briefcase as a weapon and she did.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's how she got the victory.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I cannot get because it makes sense.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You would capitalize on your opponents being at their weakest and you just go on out there to get what's left over.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So do you think?

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, so here's the other problem, but I usually have with how they do it this way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because of the cheap-ish victory, it's almost like it creates a transitional champion.

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[SPEAKER_01]: do we believe that with this title when Naomi has ascended to a level of where they see her as a top star or because she got the title in this way, do we see her as maybe more of a transitional champion in all of a sudden it's going to go back to

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, maybe it goes to Bianco or it goes back to Rio or or something like it's just they have to play off the gimmick and Naomi is not the long term plan.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know the answer to that myself, but I think if she was if she became the top or one of the top two or three women in the company,

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[SPEAKER_01]: That would mean a lot more for this cash in than if she just is kind of like, you know, not just not just bring it up, not to compare the J-uso thing, but J-uso similarly became a transitional champion when all was said and done.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So Scott, do you think that she has ascended and she's going to be treated as a top star?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think you're going to get a little bit of both.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think she's absolutely ascended.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think going forward, she will be in this main event picture.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But that doesn't mean she can't be a transitional heel.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's not forget Edge, one of the best heels W's ever had.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He was a great transitional heel whenever they needed him to.

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[SPEAKER_02]: When Mr. Kennedy got hurt, he had him get the briefcase he cashed in on the undertaker.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Great transitional heel there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So he like he's someone who's a leaven time champion.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I guarantee at least seven or eight of those were probably transitional type of range to get it back to the baby face in a more meaningful way.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I think it can be a little bit of both.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think Naomi has showed with the matches with Jade, the matches with Nia Jax, being able to have a good match with anybody, being able to bring this character to life and just have this crowd reaction, regardless whether it's good or bad, they're always reacting for her.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think she will absolutely stay in and has to litify herself in that main event.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So she faced Jade earlier in the show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They had a no holds barred match and Jade wins with the jaded through the table.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So automatically what you created was Jade as a top contender.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But we had sort of assumed that Jade was headed for Tiffany's title.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do we switch gears and is Jade now headed for Naomi's title with being the queen of the ring?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Keela, where do you see this one going?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, this is tricky because they made it brass specifics.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So Jay came just hop over to Monday and I raw.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So she stuck with Tiffany and they only lied and said, Hey, I don't want your championship.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm after what Tiffany has.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So they swirled everyone here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't know if they're going to kind of negate the rules of winning the Queen and King of the Ring tournament.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But we shall see how they play it on SmackDown.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But

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[SPEAKER_00]: knowing how they've been the rules.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It would not shock me because there is still some equity there with Naomi and Jade possibly at some of slam and the atomics of Bianca Belair because that is still unfinished business there as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The other thing about it and I just thought about it right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: When do they do that show where it's champion versus champion?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is that a Saudi Arabia show for that giant belt?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but they won't be doing it this year because they're going to be in Australia.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So crown jewel might be that that championship match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So because if they do that head to head title, you know, champion versus champion, they can have Jade win again.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If Jade was to beat Tiffany at Summerslam, and then you do, you know, you can do that match and Jade can win again, and it's a non title match, essentially.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you could you could do it that way, but yeah, you know, changes gears and I do wonder.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I think for the last, you know, pre-twenty-twenty-five, I think we had really given Triple H's benefit of the Dow, as far as he's booking, and post-twenty-twenty-five, I'm not as much giving him the benefit of the Dow.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I wonder how I wonder if this was a long-term plan, or if this was a little bit of a hot shot, to take advantage of what he presumed to be a hot end to the show, which it was, I think most people thought it was,

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[SPEAKER_01]: because in high, like, like, I wonder if in a month and we go in hindsight, okay, that didn't really pay off in the way that we wanted or that we thought it wasn't if feels a little bit more like a hot shot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think there's a problem if it was, by the way, because sometimes you just need to take advantage of opportunity.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, that's something that I'm gonna be watching for as well because I might think again, if we're given this woman the title,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I want her to be a champion.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want her to be what's what's our girl's name on SmackDown the the US champion Zina Zelina

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want her to be the Zelena Vega of World Champions, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because it was very clear when Zelena Vega got that title that nobody saw her as a champion.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She was just, she just got it because, you know, she was eventually going to lose it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I hope that Naomi, because her character has been so great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But at the same time, if you were to go on a wrestling scale,

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you were to say entering, she is a little bit behind Rhea and EO in Bianca and Charlotte and Becky.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like she is a little bit behind those women.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But she's also really good at the sports entertainment part of it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think she can make up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we'll see.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just not convinced with this current booking that the champions are really the champions and the stories sometimes bother me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we'll see.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll see.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I'm happy for Naomi because it did look like she was

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[SPEAKER_01]: she was feeling it like she she she that was her moment and you know I don't think I've talked about this but I was at Walla Mania and Naomi was one of the special guests for Walla Mania actually Naomi and Jay Uso

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[SPEAKER_01]: And she was in character and her character was basically yelling at the fans and saying, you know, I, y'all don't give me my respect and everyone in that crowd was like bowing to her.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like they were, you know, there's that, that is her crowd.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And she was trying to stay in character, but it was not working because people were just loving her too much and we're cheering for her too much.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But at that moment, and it was like, huh, I wonder, you know, because she's really killing it with this new character.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's getting over in social media.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's doing all the big gym stuff on Twitter, which is cracking me up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think she has some, you know, we can kind of talk about this part, which is

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you go all the way back to her in Mercedes stepping out, and now Mercedes was in the women's match at AEW's biggest show this weekend.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And now Naomi caches in at evolution this weekend.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They kind of had this rural parallel universe where both of them kind of circled all the way back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they, you know, they proved that

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[SPEAKER_01]: you know, leaving for the reasons that they did, well, it was the right thing to do based on where they are today.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just, I kind of just put that together when I was watching the Naomi thing, but Kayla, does that, like, does that add to this?

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[SPEAKER_01]: If people know the Naomi story,

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[SPEAKER_01]: of her and Mercedes just kind of piecing out and kind of she had to pay her dues to come back even though her family is such a big part of WWE and then now she she's basically achieved all the reasons that she walked out in the first place.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_00]: When they walked away, it was one of the greatest things you can possibly do to basically say, doces to you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We don't need to do this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then to basically go back to square one, go to TNA, re-establish yourself as a star.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then you let WWE come to you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You let them write the check.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You let them open the checkbook and see how much you're worth and she came back and since a moment she came back, she's been at the forefront of that women's division on SmackDown.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She's been in the championship mix.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Her and Bianca Belair were a great tag team champions.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We saw some some of the best matches this year in WWE at least on television.

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[SPEAKER_00]: for those very tag team titles.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So she came back in a strong opposition, deny a jacks matches or a prime example of that as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think that walking away was probably the best thing she ever did, saying with Mercedes as well, look at where they are right now in their respective companies.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're at the top of their game at the peak of their careers three years later.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, it is, it is pretty amazing and hindsight about how all of those things came together.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I guess that, you know, that is the main takeaway of tonight is, at least to me, was Naomi coming full circle, Rhea and EO having a really, really good match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And in an interesting way though,

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you are, if you really liked that reo in eomatch, you are desperate for another one because it didn't end in the way where one woman is better than the other.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're telling the story that rea has never beat eo in a singles match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think that there is enough meat on the bone left for them, that when either of them

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[SPEAKER_01]: get another title or maybe you don't even need a title because they're both so over with the crowd.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But there's one finished business and there's a big match still with both of them and I think we need a conclusive finish because what they were doing was fantastic like EO doing the dive from the outside the Spanish fly from the top rope like one of my

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[SPEAKER_01]: early complaints about like the twenty sixteen four horseman era of women's wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like y'all can do just about everything that you want to do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But then they would try to do one thing that was a really hard and they would screw it up and then people would kind of clown and go see, you know, they're they're not as good as the guys or whatever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But now

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[SPEAKER_01]: What EO and Ria did was better than anything on terms, BTV that I've seen in a few weeks here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So Kudos to them and like that was a really good match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But it won't be seen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think at least personally as the classic, maybe that WrestleMania, a forty one match because of the lack of like the conclusive

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[SPEAKER_01]: finish.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I think if we people in hindsight, I think they're going to look at that match a little bit higher.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And for me, the reason why I like that match better is because I'm just a bigger Bianca fan than just about anybody else.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And she was great in that match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But this is really close.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And just yeah, just fantastic stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But we'll get to more about

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[SPEAKER_01]: Some of the five of our three of us put together like a little bit of a top five list.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we're going to get to number two, but before that, I wanted to, I was in the middle of shouting out, Scott and Keela, because starting on Wednesday of last week, we had the dynamite show went live on Wednesday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Then Jeremy and Steven were speaking of strong style in life Thursday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Then Sam and Mel with the power bombshells did their pre-pressure on Saturday morning.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then we had three live shows.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, two live shows last night, Scott and Kila did theirs cover and great American bash and Saturday to meet event.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then Jeremy went solo and had some Collins and and Kina Kila did a run in like Naomi with the with the briefcase.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so like, you know, we do this, we do this really because it's kind of our voice, you know, we want our voices to be out there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's not really, you know, it's a hobby, but it's not a hobby where, you know, we're all getting stipends for doing this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like we're literally doing it out of the, the fun of it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the one way

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[SPEAKER_01]: that if people watching or whatever you know want to you do want to give them a little bit of love we do have this like super chat button here and I don't need super chats but support those other shows the dynamite show speaking of strong style power bombshells these post game shows when when Scott and killer are gonna go live because it is really like a it is for the love of the game kind of thing but most importantly to me

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[SPEAKER_01]: is that you have Scott and Kila's voice talking about WWE.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I love supporting voices of color.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I am a person of color myself though.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I am a biracial.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We have Scott and Kila people of color, Kila woman of color.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I just like supporting the voices.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So shout out to both of you for doing such a great job.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the wrap every week on our podcast network.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you guys, whatever we do these live shows, I know you guys are up to it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it is a labor of love though.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not like, you know, it's not like there's time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's consumption and everything involved.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I just wanted the people who are listening and watching to know, you know, how much I appreciate y'all.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So number two, I would say

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is something that Scott came up with, which is, do you guys think that this should be a yearly show?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Should we have evolution three next year, then evolution four, then evolution five?

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[SPEAKER_01]: They didn't even call it evolution two.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They just called the evolution, like they do with all of their non-Russell Mania paper views.

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[SPEAKER_01]: For some reason, Russell Mania is the only one that gives numbers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But Scott, since you brought it up, what do you think about doing this show every year?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know how you can't.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean with the women that you have and I thought about a royal

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[SPEAKER_02]: I thought the battle royal especially was a great example of the pool of women that are there where you don't even need to have a bunch of returns surprises.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They told you exactly who is going to be in it and you just saw just a cream of the crop who are ready to come up and take over.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I absolutely think you should do this every year.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Give them the time, the space, the opportunity.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's keep it a buck.

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[SPEAKER_02]: HBK book this thing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, we had black women all over the place run stuff.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We had booking that made sense that caught you off guard.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Let's just keep buck.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, hunter had nothing to do with this.

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[SPEAKER_03]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_03]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I absolutely think we should we should have this as an annual miss that can have their space because Triple H is booking the rest of them.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Let HBK have this once a year and we're going to get arguably the best show of the year.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Kayla, what do you think?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's do it every year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, I saw the WWE post show on peacock and Chipleach already hedging.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is what he did the first time, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's like, if there's a demand for it, like, look at your social media.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're being tagged and post saying, do it every year because look at the reaction.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This show is getting more praise than WrestleMania, a forty one, night one and two combined.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you need to do this every year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The one thing you should not do is compete against a W.

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[SPEAKER_00]: during their biggest weekend of the year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Don't do that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Pick a day that is going to be just for the ladies for the weekend.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Have a time of it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Atlanta was awesome, despite y'all being right across.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You can be on say, like it worked out for y'all the way was supposed to.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The fans were hot for it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Pick a destination city and do a show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's for the ladies.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's for the fans is for the love of women's wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It is call it a day.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Stop hedging.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Stop saying what we have, this amazing platform across our shows.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You don't use it every week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You don't utilize it the way you should.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yes, we do need an annual show to showcase the absolute best of women's wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Stop playing and take it seriously.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I agree.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've had very smart wrestling people say, well, if you create a show for the women,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Then it excuses them to create other things for them on other shows.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like there was no women's match on Saturday, it's made of end, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I push back on that because a lot of times, you know, when we say, oh, you know, there's a men's Royal Wumbles or women's Royal Wumbles.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a men's Survivor Series War Games or women's War Games.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And sometimes,

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[SPEAKER_01]: The storylines and the hype and the TV time favors the dudes, except in NXT.

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[SPEAKER_01]: NXT is the rare place where it feels almost fifty-fifty, like Sean and his team.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It does look like they really try and make that show equal equal time for the women.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Not on Ron's Macdown.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's for sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Not in AEW, but that's a different story for AEW.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know WBS two brands three brands technically.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What this show does is it forces them to level up the programs for the women.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You because you have to have a main event, you had to have a reapply and EOS guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You had to have something creative at the end to get the internet talking.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And if it wasn't evolution, this storyline or this match would have been like fourth from the top at one of the nights on SummerSlim.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It wouldn't have been a main event, by the way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It just wouldn't have that it, you know, we saw the WrestleMania main events, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: CM Punk and Roman Reigns and Seth Rollins and then John Cena and Cody Rhodes, that terrible match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This, this show, this match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There it would have been midcard stuff, even with re-ripply in EOS guy, even with Tiffany Stratton and Trish Stratus.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It would have just been, you know, maybe second or third from the top at best.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So by having this show, you have to create those moments and you have to book this match like it was the main event.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What I would like though is for them to actually

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[SPEAKER_01]: promote the hell out of it because they did not do that this year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They waited until the last second because it was one of the sacrificial lands like Kila said for the competition against AEW.

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[SPEAKER_01]: AEW, you know, I think AEW did a good job of kind of mind in their own beeswax pretty much and and they kind of did what they wanted to do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I still think that show was about an hour and a half too long, but

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[SPEAKER_01]: like the this show specifically if you want to use NXT as your sacrificial lamb

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[SPEAKER_01]: Go ahead, be my guest.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The only thing that's going to happen is people are going to skip those shows who may have wanted to watch them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You don't want to do that with evolution.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Evolution, this is two times in a row.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This show has outkicked the promotion of what you've done for it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they didn't have Ronda Rousey this time, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: They did it without Ronda Rousey.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They did it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They had Nikki Bella, but not Nikki Bella in a main event role.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, some women are no longer there because Kila and I and Sam did that watch back on the very first evolution.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, same triple-age excuse after that shows over, oh, if there's demand for it, we'll have to see what the business stuff says.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The business stuff can be good if you don't sabotage it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what that's what I'll say.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I am not sure that they see it that way, which is unfortunate.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I hope that somebody there kind of goes, hey, let, you know, who can fight for it?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, we need to do this every year and needs its own day.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just looked up women's specific holidays.

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[SPEAKER_01]: How about women's equality day?

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[SPEAKER_01]: August, twenty-sixth.

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[SPEAKER_01]: How about international women's day?

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[SPEAKER_01]: March eight.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Equal paid it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, they don't want equal pay day.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They don't run it on that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It would be nice.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It would be nice.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Becky Hogan.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's doing her thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's like, I'm gonna lose Hollywood stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You want me to TV show?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If I don't get pushed, I don't get pushed.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm in this TV show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Go for it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do your thing Becky.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I love it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I think that's, you know, you have to, and I've seen this happen in so many different areas.

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[SPEAKER_01]: My favorite

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, when I was growing up and I was, you know, a teenager heading into my young twenties, my favorite person who would speak out was Tupac's score.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And two bucks your core said, he's got this, it's in one of the movies that they did after he passed away.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he's got this thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He said it on MTV television.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he was saying how, you know, people are saying, why do you gotta be so loud?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like why do you have to be so forceful?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he's like, well, we have been asking for years.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We've been knocking on the door politely asking

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[SPEAKER_01]: And now we have to kick in the door because there's people on the other side who are eating and we're hungry.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was just like this is such a fantastic explanation of why you have to be forceful sometimes and why you have to make noise.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Somebody's got to do that for this women's show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't, you know, Stephanie McMahon, I don't think is stomping her feet enough.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And she probably, you know, she's just not even really making decisions, but there's got to be somebody there who stomps their feet and says, this needs to be a special show every year and here's why.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And here are all of the things we can do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We can celebrate these things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We can celebrate, we can bring in these things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We can put a spotlight on these things and make this thing bigger.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now you're not going to do that in Saudi Arabia and that's really what WWE cares about right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, they can really spin this thing up, I think.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just don't know if there's a willingness or a pioneer or a fighter of causes in that company to really speak up for it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we'll see, but I'm not too, I'm not too keen on that actually happening as much as I want this show to happen every year.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We'll part of the problem is that Triple H got to figure out who's a champion because he probably can't see it right now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he can't.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He only sees one champion right now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He only sees Tiffany has no idea what's going on with you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I wonder if that guy regrets that comment because he hasn't he hasn't like called it back into question to say you know what my bad guys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was really stupid.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He has not done that he didn't see he didn't see the whole Cody rose Brady rose.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Then he didn't see what Brady had until that man.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You don't see me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was at that star.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was at that star cast.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and Brandy was telling the story.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, Cody was right there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was looking at Cody going like, oh, man, I feel for this dude.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He probably felt like the biggest jackass in the world.

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[SPEAKER_01]: His wife is calling him out right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But shit, that was her story.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's like, this is the deal.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So anyways, all right, off of my soapbox.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I do think that I would love for there to be somebody to speak up about this stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, another thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we, we,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think we, I will say I think we, but I'll lead with me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm a big fan of Charlotte Flair.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I really, I really love Charlotte Flair.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She comes out with the player's tribune piece and I was saying this, um, WrestleMania timeframe that I thought it was kind of unfair.

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[SPEAKER_01]: that her program is going to be with Tiffany Stratton because who Tiffany Stratton represents and wrestling is Charlotte Flair's replacement when Charlotte gets too old and then in ten years there's going to be another tiffy replacing tiffy and that's just kind of how the wheel goes with this stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I could see it when Charlotte came back, got booed.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Fans weren't feeling her.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, okay, this is unfortunate and it's unfair.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And she came out with the players tribun article and she spoke or wrote from the perspective of Ashley, which I thought was very smart.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was kind of wondering if this crowd was gonna be savvy enough to know that that thing had come out and that Charlotte was showing some vulnerability

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[SPEAKER_01]: And when I watched this match, originally when I watched it, I had the sound down because of where I was at.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And as I was watching the match, I was like, okay, I hope this looks like the crowd is behind Charlotte based on how she's hitting her comeback and hitting her moves.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I didn't know for sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I asked and people said, like, there was some chance for her because they saved the hot tag from her and everything.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then I went back just to see some of the, some of the crowd reaction to Charlotte.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So my question,

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[SPEAKER_01]: to the both of you and Keith Lee can go first with you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Charlotte's team didn't win.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Charlotte got over so much by saving Alexa from getting speared.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was like a moment for the crowd who had been dying for Charlotte to just show some vulnerability, sell for your people.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You don't have to

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[SPEAKER_01]: be top dog constantly, like you can, you can be a little bit more of a team player sometimes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it does seem like this role of her tag teaming with Alexa Bliss is helping her.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And do you think that she is kind of back or do you think, hmm, based on the different crowds, it may change back to the booze and such for Charlotte?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's the beginning of her being back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think Scott and I talked about this on our show last night that it just felt like there was a glow to her the last couple of weeks, probably when she wrote the article for it was published, like this wait was off her shoulders, a long last, she was able to express herself freely.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I said, if you have fun,

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you bring elements of Ashley to Charlotte Flair, I guarantee you the fans will embrace you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: When she got that hot tag, that crowd went ballistic.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought I was in bizarre old land.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, just a couple of months ago, y'all was born in school after

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[SPEAKER_00]: building, but she's out here, hidden her spots.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This was the best she moved since she's come back from the ACL injury.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think the tag team, her and Alexa has then wonders for her Alexa.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We have to give her her tens because she has been able to pull some humanity in Charlotte Flair, the character

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[SPEAKER_00]: I love their dynamic.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Their entrance was hilarious of them just trying to one up each other and their corpsing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They can't keep a straight face because they generally like working together.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I said this on Twitter, I think before the year is out, I do believe there'll be tag team champions.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think there'll be love it when it happens.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the fact that Charlotte saved Alexa

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[SPEAKER_00]: in a perfect timely spot from that spear.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It really cemented them as a tag team.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that before the fall is over or maybe the summer to pin how they play it, they will be tagged in champions and Charlotte will be over as a baby face.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Scott, when you saw Charlotte hit that hot tag, do you think this was

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[SPEAKER_01]: like smart match producing, I guess is the right term for it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Or do you think this is something that was like kind of organic in the ring like I assume that they had set like you know they put the match getting and they set it up for sure it's like the hot tag.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I don't know if when they set that up that they knew the crowd was going to react like this like I'm trying to figure I would love to know I'd love to ask somebody in the back like did you guys know that you know she was going to get this crazy cheer because it seemed like one of those moments of like.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Whoa, like this is amazing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, this is exactly what you wanted out of this moment and whoever put this together is brilliant.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I kind of wonder if some of it was like, luck.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And like, I don't know, what did you think about that moment?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I felt it did feel very organic from from the moment her insurance hit the music hit the crowd was completely with her I mean just they were on their feet they were wooing with her and I think it was all planned it seemed like it was all laid out that way where they knew they knew they were going to get a reaction and I think that was the main thing they knew that regardless of what was going to be it was going to be a reaction

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think they thought it was going to be that positive because you could see Charlotte when she first walked out, she kind of took a step back like, wait a minute.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Are y'all out here cheering me?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh boy, you can see her whole kind of mood change again.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe it was just me.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It looked like her shoulders kind of dropped a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And like she was like, you know what, I'm good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And that's when the fun started when she started blocking Alexa Bliss with the robe and all that kind of stuff.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So it looked it seemed like it was all planned and it seemed like it just works better than they thought they would.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm with you.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm a big charlotte flare fan.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think she just, you know, people just got tired of her being pushed down or throat.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She again showed she's one of the best in the world.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And this, this, this RKO, rated arm, I mean, the RK Broask tag team they have, because it's very similar, because when Orton says, I think it was from AJ and Omos, I believe it was AJ and Omos was the big moment where we were Randy stepped in and was like, no, that's my guy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You going with me to get to him.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It felt very similar, Charlotte, it's just on that same path where you go through the tag team, you show your partner, you're seriously trying to change, crowds with it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She's going to, like, like Kila said, she's going to be over as a baby phase.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She's going to be that main event level that elevates the tag titles.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And if this matches any indication of what HBK could do with the women's tag division,

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[SPEAKER_01]: It could be in good hands that they need to take advantage of it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to see her in a singles title match for a little while like you can do that down the line when it when the character is working.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I think this is this is tremendous tremendous job on all parties to get her back into the good graces because it's been a while.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, the only other time I feel like she got cheered was because the crowd just hated Ronda Rousey more than hated her.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then she's like, oh, I'm the baby face here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I got it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, it was great to see.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I've been a big Charlotte fan from the beginning and just awesome.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was awesome.

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[SPEAKER_01]: moment, uh, I'm sure she sees Mercedes in part of her player's debut in article was basically saying, yeah, like the four of us, it's not like we have a group chat, you know, where we're updating each other after shows.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I wish it was like that, but it's just not like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We see Mercedes in one of the top three matches, one of the top three on AWS biggest paper for you the year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then Charlotte's not in one of the biggest matches, but this match probably helps her career in present time, more than anything that she's done of late since she's come back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Then you had Becky open the show with Bailey as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So those four women who

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[SPEAKER_01]: They've been here for a while now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, we've seen them for many, many years, but they are still in the mix.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's great to see that because like she also said in that article, she's like, you know, who's older than me?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Cody Rhodes and no one thinks he's too old to be in the top spot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So all of those things, I think we're right on the money.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's, it's basically what I've been saying in our discord for so long, which is I understand her play because as a woman in a vanity business,

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's harder because you're picking on the looks and the body and guys can just get jacked up on steroids and kind of fit the bill for as long as, you know, they got the money and the doctors and it's much harder on the women to keep like a look or a figure than it is for the guys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I have a lot of sympathy for what the women do, especially as they get a little bit older.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, again, vanity business.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is like, this is just what it isn't Hollywood to.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is no different from Hollywood and television and any, any, any, any department where there's looks or fashion involved, like it's hard for harder for women everywhere.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I have some sympathy for them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, we'll move on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We got two more things, then we'll break down the whole show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll give winners and losers and thoughts on the matches.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So,

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[SPEAKER_01]: One of the things about this show, and I was kind of wondering how much they were gonna allow NXT to shine, because like we said, or like I said, I'm not speaking for you guys, I feel like NXT is the only pro wrestling program in the US, by the way, because startup is all women's program, all women's company.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Only US company where I feel like the women are on even an equal ground with the men.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We had Solruca and Zaria in the tag team match in the, in the four way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We had some of the women in the battle royal and we had JC Jane and Jordan Grace in the title match with an assist from Blake Monroe.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I still don't feel like they got enough shine though.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, Scott, I know that you mentioned Seoul, Ruka and the Lash legends shine kind of as maybe the new Rhea and Bianca for you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I still would have liked to see

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[SPEAKER_01]: maybe Jay to Parker do a little bit better in that battle.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think she held her own.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She did a pretty good job.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Lash did, Lash was one of the two remaining.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Stephanie Vicares, not, she's in the NXT alumnus as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So she's still close to that brand.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But did you guys feel, and we'll start with you Scott, that NXT got enough shine considering they are the one brand in the company that actually does showcase the women's wrestling more than the others.

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[SPEAKER_02]: well-considering that Izzy and Tatum didn't even get mentioned until after they were already thrown out of the match.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, as far as the Battle Royale goes, I thought the way they, the women at the beginning was just like, it felt like when a day or a Tommy got the big opportunity to be in the hydrated giant Battle Royale WrestleMania got the way everybody in the big show tossed them out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So that's what I felt like at the beginning.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But Jayda, like you said, Jayda did our right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, Kalaani got to have a a coffee-esque moment as far with the handstand walking back.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Jayda got to eliminate Natalia.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I thought so Ruka looked real good in the match.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Not a fan of her being penned, but that's a whole lot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Somebody else said that in our discord, and I was thinking, I guess I guess you could have been sorry about I just figured that one of the NXT women were getting penned.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but you want to, you pinned in the double champion.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I know nobody knows she's a speed champion, but she's double champion.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You can't say it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We do it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, I think overall, when we, when we look back at this event, I think yes, I think they will, because they're going to point out Soul Rooka, they're going to point out Lash Legend in particular.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think she's one that really going to show like, she was this close to winning the Battle Royale getting the title shot.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I thought she looked,

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[SPEAKER_02]: tremendous like who did she we meet out of the ring.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She she who was it was it was it's a Lena it might have been Selena it was a Lena it was a Lena because at first she was going to power bomber the Selena tried to her can run as she caught her flipped her over and

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[SPEAKER_02]: She, every time she has been thrown to the walls, has been given a big opportunity.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She has knocked it out the park.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She, she gives me very much Bianca vibes as far as the level she's picking it up.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Every time she's put into a big spot, like I said, she answers the call, I just think she's ready to be given more opportunity, more spotlight.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I just, I don't know if Triple H is the guy who's going to give her that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like she's going to get all that in NXT.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if she's still going to get that when she gets caught up.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's a great point.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Kayla, what did you think about NXT's up, you know, that their performance in this on the show?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was concerned doing that bad a royal.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, nice about to eliminate all the index finger.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, Eva, you made this big speech.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I have six women.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm selecting for this match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And all of them are going to get eliminated in five minutes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So less like, oh my God.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But thankfully, like I was happy that Lola survived down the stretch, lash at a nice showing towards the end.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's salvaged things, but my God, I was worried.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, oh, we take in the NXT Women's Division seriously for them to be kind of treat it like this in a very disrespectful way, had a mind my words there, but yeah, I was concerned, but I think overall in terms of the featured matches, not a big fan of so being pinned either, but I thought overall it was a good showing, but I was very concerned

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[SPEAKER_00]: five minutes in about a world because I was like, what are we doing?

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is no, no, no, no, no.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're not doing this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're supposed to showcase NXT as next generation.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what it stands for.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Don't do that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm actually surprised they didn't just increase the size of the battle royal to put more NXT women in their, because there's NXT women who are currently on television right now who were not in that match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So kind of interesting, because they could have, I mean, why not?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Especially if you're just going to toss two of them immediately for the match, you can start you might as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, kind of interesting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So last question or last topic, and then we'll hit the entire show here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Trish-dratus.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is such a crazy one for me because...

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think Trisha and I are very close to the same age.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So when she was running hot in in WWE and she's admitted like not knowing what the hell is going on or what she was supposed to do, she's put with Prince Albert in test and just kind of out there just looking, you know, they were looking for a very attractive Valets or managers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: you know for for the wrestlers and she's was definitely that and then she transitions her career into being you know still the the women's wrestling division individually was not that big there was you know maybe six or seven of them at a time and you know maybe you get one match on a on a paper view and sometimes you

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[SPEAKER_01]: don't because they would cut the women's match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so now, you know, Trish was really, you know, growing as a worker and as a wrestler, but she retires before this spotlight that they were able to put on the women.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Thanks to Charlotte and Sasha having that match in San Jose that I was at before Russell Mania,

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so now she has come back multiple times and as a Trish diehard, I was actually at her cauliflower alley Hall of Fame ceremony and I got to take some photos of her and then I think her team like use some of my stuff and I was like, oh, you guys can totally use it and she's and then she

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[SPEAKER_01]: reached out to me directly and she was like, I'm so sorry that they used it without your permission.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But thank you or whatever so that was kind of nice.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But so I've just been such a fan and now to see her at her at an age older, you know, we just talked about Charlotte thing like and Trisha's probably like eight or nine years old and Charlotte.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and she has this match with Tiffany Stratton who's a legitimate athlete like just crazy athletic and she stood there toe to toe with this woman and had they had they've been given a lot a little bit longer with time I think they could have had like you know even a better match but totally solid

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[SPEAKER_01]: Great pro wrestling match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I'm still kind of concerned about Tiffany's character.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's kind of a baby face, but she acts like a heel constantly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Trisha's ultimate baby face.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I just thought that the whole thing really worked.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It didn't overstay to welcome it was right in the middle.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It did what was supposed to do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But Trisha's so amazing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I just wish like for her.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like Trish was born.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now she was probably born at the right time to do that post-attitude era stuff that she was doing that she got very famous for.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But as a wrestler, she was born like fifteen years too early because she could have been in the mix with all of these women in her prime.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Had she been trained to wrestle like this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Keela, let's start with you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I want you to give Trish her flowers in the way that you can.

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[SPEAKER_00]: First of all, I want to apologize because Skyden I, we said something on the show like Tiffany and Trish, you know, I don't even have the chemistry to go out there and put on a compelling match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I apologize.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They went out there and shut my ass up and I'm very happy they did it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Trish, we should preface this by saying she's almost fifty years old.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Almost fifty.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And she's out there working as if she's twenty five years old still.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Just the crispness, the athleticism still.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She went up top going for a moan salt in honor of her best friend, Lita, almost hit it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She missed it because Tiffany moved off the way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like she's trying new stuff at the stage of her career.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like she's incredible.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And as you've said, like if she just came in a different era,

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[SPEAKER_00]: God, like she would be one of the greatest to ever do it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I still stand by that she is one of the greatest to ever do it because when she was around, there was no PR.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She just went out there and did it and she worked hard and she busted her ass and to see her get this love now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's incredible.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But to see her perform at this high level in twenty twenty five against Tiffany Stratton, who has been in this game less than four years and to have a match of this caliber against Tristratus and not feel lost and you do a new stuff too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: looking like Rod to strong out there with the back breaker, like what?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So they was doing incredible stuff in that match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If they got five more minutes, I think it would have reached even greater territory.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But for what they gave like Trish, we call her mother's tradis on this show for a reason.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That is why Scott does, I mean Trish is all about that yoga, like

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[SPEAKER_01]: feel like we should all be on that yoga if it works this well for her now she's she's also got some like tremendous genetics as well like she should you know mama and and pop a stratus a good job by you guys but

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, you've probably so you're quite a bit younger than I am.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you would have seen Trish more as the wrestling version of Trish versus kind of the TNA version of Trish that I saw her as originally.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you've kind of seen her progression as a pro wrestler in the ring.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you think she's ever been better than she is right now?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I won't keep it a buck.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I've been a fan of Trish and realized how good she was when she was able to carry Snookie to a good WrestleMania match.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Anyone able to take Snookie and have her have a passable match of Russell Mania, you're good in my book.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I could take it all the way back to her match with Mickey James and Russell Mania.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's one that you'll always remember her Russell Mania main event with Lida on Monday Night Raw.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That was a good match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Was that Snookie match?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Was that the one that Johnny Nitro got all pissed off at?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, that little smoothie asshole.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He was so...

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was a cheerleader.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I can do one spot.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I can do a hand spring.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And that's what I'm here for.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And all she, sure she hasn't missed and honestly since she came back, again, Charlotte Flarris on herself.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think she's really had a bad single smash.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You can go to her matches which Becky Lynch, she was able to elevate as we start.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She's been excellent since she's come back.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I hope this was not the swan song because I think she's still got a few more left in her.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, I'm with you.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think this is some of the best she's looked in.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, she is a what if she came there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think like her Victoria Gayle Kim.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Those type of wrestlers if they would have came nowadays with these women who knows what the with the ceilings could have been for them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Was Gayle Kim there did they show her at all tonight?

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[SPEAKER_00]: She was not there.

53:58.258 --> 54:01.520
[SPEAKER_00]: She said I was watching the show from home and she was watching the show from home.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Somebody somebody who would know told me not to be surprised if she was there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I just assumed she was going to be there and then I didn't see her.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So long night at the Beyonce concert night before.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So let's talk about this show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I have to admit, I missed the first match because I got in late and

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[SPEAKER_01]: I hate peacock.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Can I say that?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know peacock gives a lot of content, but I hate that app because I checked in a little late and it only let me rewind so far and basically let me rewind to

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[SPEAKER_01]: after that match was over.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I couldn't go back and then because they do this press conference thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And like the pregame all the way to the end of the press conference, that's the locked-in show and so there's no replay until all that stuff is done.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I didn't get to see the opener.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I apologize, but that's why we have Scott and Keela on here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: By the way, Joe Gilbert from our Discord says,

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[SPEAKER_01]: It sounds like Trish plans on being back sometime, maybe even this year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm assuming he got that from the post game press conference stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Walk, uh, give me the details of Becky and Bailey and Lyra.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know that Becky won.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's all I know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So Kila, since you're the, uh, you're the usual host of the rap, I'll let you break down the match for me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was great.

55:39.548 --> 55:40.669
[SPEAKER_00]: Atmosphere was crazy.

55:40.749 --> 55:44.789
[SPEAKER_00]: The fans were giving them a setting ovation before the match started.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Bailey hyping the crowd up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They were into everything.

55:49.611 --> 55:52.191
[SPEAKER_00]: The chemistry with all three ladies were on point.

55:52.911 --> 56:01.133
[SPEAKER_00]: The physicality, the counters, the top rope, pin breaks, midway through the match from Lyra and Bailey was excellent.

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[SPEAKER_00]: When it got down to Bailey and

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[SPEAKER_00]: Becky, they were just swinging, hitting hard.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was really, really good stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I love the fact that at the very beginning of the match, Becky threw up the four.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was very symbolic of where they were ten years ago, Bailey did not get the call up at the time, had to wait a year to get called up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's someone that carries that brand.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Listen, on her back for an extra year and she did, but she threw up that for and it was like a special moment and they scrapped.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They clawed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then Becky got the clean win with the roll up on Bailey.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was great.

56:39.964 --> 56:43.727
[SPEAKER_00]: And I loved everything about this match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Great opener set the tone for the night and all three ladies shined.

56:49.371 --> 56:49.912
[SPEAKER_02]: We think Scott.

56:51.555 --> 56:53.976
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's not a lot more to add to that man.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was great.

56:55.196 --> 56:59.217
[SPEAKER_02]: I love another little touch at the beginning how they knocked Lair out the very beginning.

56:59.237 --> 57:02.018
[SPEAKER_02]: It was like, yo, this is what it is.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's really about you and me anywhere.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's get her out here.

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[SPEAKER_02]: What's she doing here?

57:07.520 --> 57:10.083
[SPEAKER_02]: There's always something about when the horse women link up.

57:10.423 --> 57:17.570
[SPEAKER_02]: Like there's always like an extra, you know, smooshed to the face and extra little kick here, extra smack there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They really like to lay it in each other.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, a very enjoyable match set the stage for whatever they got coming at SummerSlam.

57:25.477 --> 57:28.420
[SPEAKER_02]: Again, I'm just hoping that the end game is Laira getting that title back.

57:29.770 --> 57:40.058
[SPEAKER_01]: I do want to shout out the folks in our chat for Nando and Maria Graciella always hangin' out and showing us love.

57:40.178 --> 57:46.442
[SPEAKER_01]: Of course, everybody's good friend, Lady B, she is, she's also chatting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She said Becky cut in the promo at the end of the match.

57:49.965 --> 57:52.306
[SPEAKER_01]: Next to the Becky Hogan sign was great.

57:53.372 --> 57:54.673
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, so let's go to second match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And this is where I started to catch up, which was JC Jane against Jordan Grace.

58:00.235 --> 58:04.397
[SPEAKER_01]: And I was, I've been on this thing with JC Jane.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you guys tell me what you think about JC Jane.

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[SPEAKER_01]: To me, she looks the part.

58:11.339 --> 58:12.360
[SPEAKER_01]: She talks the part.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and then when she wrestles, it loses it a little bit for me.

58:17.060 --> 58:26.792
[SPEAKER_01]: And that is not to say she's bad because we've seen her, she's been in NXT, she's been marinating in NXT for quite a long time.

58:27.512 --> 58:29.495
[SPEAKER_01]: And she kind of reminds me of like,

58:30.698 --> 58:57.399
[SPEAKER_01]: you know, in basketball, you guys would know like the G-leaker who's just like in, you know, he's he's now twenty six years old trying to catch on or in baseball, you know, the triple A player who kind of straddles between the major leagues and and the triple A, we call them quadruple A players like she's got a little bit of that in that I like her and NXT, but I know her goal is to go up and if she goes up,

58:58.222 --> 58:59.963
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm a little worried that she just gets lost.

59:00.523 --> 59:02.364
[SPEAKER_01]: So I kind of wanted to stay in NXT.

59:04.644 --> 59:09.626
[SPEAKER_01]: I would say out of all the matches that I got to see this was this was the one that that I liked the least.

59:10.767 --> 59:19.650
[SPEAKER_01]: I also didn't really like to finish Blake Monroe hit a fairly weak shot to the back on Jordan Grace with with the title.

59:20.671 --> 59:23.372
[SPEAKER_01]: And this match was more about to me at least.

59:24.392 --> 59:35.602
[SPEAKER_01]: Blake Blake Monroe striking and striking a pose at the end then it was really about the NXT women's title and I really don't know what like what are they doing with Jordan Grace like she's obviously

59:37.487 --> 59:41.348
[SPEAKER_01]: she could wrestle at the main brand level easily.

59:41.848 --> 59:51.451
[SPEAKER_01]: So this is maybe just I can't even I don't even think it's about learning WWE style because she's been working on US television forever in TNA.

59:51.911 --> 59:54.772
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm just I'm kind of wondering what's going on with her.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But at the end of the day, J.C.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Jane keeps a belt, Blake Monroe and Jordan Grace are now going to have a feud or whatever after their spa day from last Tuesday.

01:00:06.841 --> 01:00:12.385
[SPEAKER_01]: So, Kayla, what did you think about this match in my rating, J.C.

01:00:12.505 --> 01:00:13.606
[SPEAKER_01]: to harshly?

01:00:13.626 --> 01:00:16.348
[SPEAKER_01]: Do you find her to be good in the ring?

01:00:16.368 --> 01:00:17.449
[SPEAKER_01]: What do you think?

01:00:18.533 --> 01:00:22.915
[SPEAKER_00]: I think this is probably one of Jason's better outings on Sunday.

01:00:22.955 --> 01:00:25.437
[SPEAKER_00]: I thought she did a pretty good job kind of held her own.

01:00:25.977 --> 01:00:33.641
[SPEAKER_00]: She does have something I do agree the concern is going up to the main roster and trying to fly solo will a work for you.

01:00:33.661 --> 01:00:48.028
[SPEAKER_00]: I honestly don't know because the booking can be wildly unpredictable, but I thought she had her own last night against Jordan Grayson and Blakewin Roe stabs Jordan the back as we predicted that she would do muscle muffled my ass.

01:00:48.368 --> 01:00:50.129
[SPEAKER_00]: So there goes that relationship.

01:00:50.609 --> 01:00:55.391
[SPEAKER_00]: That's done after what for business days, literally, now they're done.

01:00:55.551 --> 01:00:56.151
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a wrap.

01:00:56.632 --> 01:01:00.033
[SPEAKER_00]: But let's call out Michael Cole.

01:01:00.713 --> 01:01:06.456
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's call out the voice of WWE, the greatest of all time they call them.

01:01:06.956 --> 01:01:13.179
[SPEAKER_00]: So when Blake Monroe hits Jordan Grace with set championship belt to the back, what we heard

01:01:15.018 --> 01:01:16.319
[SPEAKER_00]: dead silence.

01:01:17.220 --> 01:01:20.243
[SPEAKER_00]: Completely missed the moment.

01:01:20.603 --> 01:01:23.265
[SPEAKER_00]: Then he wonders, was that on purpose?

01:01:25.227 --> 01:01:26.808
[SPEAKER_00]: I said, it happened right in front of you.

01:01:27.169 --> 01:01:29.151
[SPEAKER_00]: So of course, it was on purpose.

01:01:29.571 --> 01:01:38.259
[SPEAKER_00]: Like Michael completely botched the Hilton, the voice of WWE our great narrator couldn't narrate that moment.

01:01:38.679 --> 01:01:39.880
[SPEAKER_00]: Wade Barrett was no better.

01:01:40.200 --> 01:01:41.602
[SPEAKER_00]: Both of y'all sucked at this.

01:01:42.222 --> 01:01:47.243
[SPEAKER_00]: And it just really downgraded the match because the story was the belt shot to the back.

01:01:47.604 --> 01:01:50.724
[SPEAKER_00]: And both of y'all went on mute like Beyonce at the concert last night.

01:01:53.065 --> 01:01:54.105
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, okay.

01:01:54.405 --> 01:01:57.166
[SPEAKER_01]: So here's my question off of off of that.

01:01:58.927 --> 01:02:01.467
[SPEAKER_01]: We know Michael Cole did Saturday and I submit event.

01:02:01.868 --> 01:02:03.928
[SPEAKER_01]: So he's got to work two shows and two nights.

01:02:05.408 --> 01:02:08.029
[SPEAKER_01]: Also can't imagine he's watching it.

01:02:08.129 --> 01:02:08.529
[SPEAKER_01]: XT.

01:02:09.650 --> 01:02:10.370
[SPEAKER_01]: We have

01:02:11.896 --> 01:02:14.719
[SPEAKER_01]: Corey Graves was the ultimate utility announcer.

01:02:14.759 --> 01:02:20.964
[SPEAKER_01]: This dude can go from NXT whenever Pat McAfee is like, I'm too tired to come to raw.

01:02:21.064 --> 01:02:22.105
[SPEAKER_01]: Then he goes on raw.

01:02:22.726 --> 01:02:27.530
[SPEAKER_01]: Whenever they run the AAA show, they're like, hey, Corey Graves, you don't speak Spanish.

01:02:27.650 --> 01:02:29.112
[SPEAKER_01]: However, we need someone to do this.

01:02:29.172 --> 01:02:30.273
[SPEAKER_01]: And he's like, I'm in.

01:02:30.693 --> 01:02:34.517
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, you got the greatest utility announcer in wrestling today.

01:02:36.087 --> 01:02:56.210
[SPEAKER_01]: he should have been on this match I think what why did we get Michael Cole and Wade Barrett other than cohesion like I don't know like I was just like shouldn't shouldn't we get some NXT presentation here in the announcing of this match since this is an NXT title match like wise Michael Cole calling this because he is no idea what's going on

01:02:57.343 --> 01:02:58.483
[SPEAKER_00]: It was bizarre to me.

01:02:58.563 --> 01:02:59.504
[SPEAKER_00]: I did not get it.

01:03:00.024 --> 01:03:04.365
[SPEAKER_00]: We could have had Cory there that would have understood the assignment way better than Michael did.

01:03:04.885 --> 01:03:08.826
[SPEAKER_00]: Hell, Joe Tess would have understood what was going on more so the Michael Cole did.

01:03:09.266 --> 01:03:16.368
[SPEAKER_00]: It just completely ruined the end of the match because dude, it happened in front of your face and you don't say anything.

01:03:16.668 --> 01:03:18.768
[SPEAKER_00]: And then you question whether or not it was intentional.

01:03:19.188 --> 01:03:19.688
[SPEAKER_00]: It was.

01:03:19.708 --> 01:03:20.869
[SPEAKER_00]: It was.

01:03:21.509 --> 01:03:25.090
[SPEAKER_01]: What if Cory graves was like?

01:03:26.206 --> 01:03:27.490
[SPEAKER_01]: I can't do it without book.

01:03:28.935 --> 01:03:33.027
[SPEAKER_01]: Then I would be like, okay, maybe it's okay for Michael Cole and wait there to call this match.

01:03:33.956 --> 01:03:47.383
[SPEAKER_01]: Can you imagine Booker T, just doing one match on this show, trying to get himself over, just in this eight minutes or twelve minutes or whatever, like do what work in the hardest for himself, getting all his catchphrases over?

01:03:47.403 --> 01:03:56.388
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but no, I think Corey Graves should have, cause like, why else would they know what was going on?

01:03:56.688 --> 01:03:59.169
[SPEAKER_01]: Like they don't follow it, they're not the normal announcers.

01:03:59.209 --> 01:04:00.890
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, they should be a little bit more professional, but

01:04:01.470 --> 01:04:04.674
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that was Michael Cole had a rough night, by the way.

01:04:05.395 --> 01:04:06.777
[SPEAKER_01]: He was not in his forte.

01:04:07.578 --> 01:04:10.342
[SPEAKER_01]: There was many moments where he was confused.

01:04:10.582 --> 01:04:18.272
[SPEAKER_01]: And he probably thought he was in a couple different dimensions based on some of the people that he saw tonight, right?

01:04:19.218 --> 01:04:24.304
[SPEAKER_01]: He's like, oh, Jacqueline, and then I have to call this Tiffany Stratton match.

01:04:24.344 --> 01:04:34.955
[SPEAKER_01]: And then, oh, Medusa, I mean, a Lundra blaze, I mean, Medusa, it's like, come on dude, you can't change her name three times just by her waving to the crowd.

01:04:36.557 --> 01:04:40.702
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, so what would it, it might too hard on Jacy Scott.

01:04:43.718 --> 01:04:46.780
[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm actually the exact opposite about J.C.

01:04:46.800 --> 01:04:47.100
[SPEAKER_02]: Jane.

01:04:47.601 --> 01:04:52.524
[SPEAKER_02]: I actually think she's pretty solid in the ring, like the same thing.

01:04:52.864 --> 01:04:54.245
[SPEAKER_01]: He and I disagree on J.C.

01:04:54.285 --> 01:04:56.246
[SPEAKER_01]: Jane in her inring, at least.

01:04:56.366 --> 01:04:59.668
[SPEAKER_01]: Lauraka thinks she's like she's doing a really great job.

01:05:00.983 --> 01:05:03.024
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think she's real solid.

01:05:03.064 --> 01:05:07.966
[SPEAKER_02]: Like anytime she's in there with with anybody, she's able to hold her own and have a good match.

01:05:08.486 --> 01:05:09.626
[SPEAKER_02]: It's her character for me.

01:05:09.787 --> 01:05:11.447
[SPEAKER_02]: I and I said this on the show.

01:05:12.067 --> 01:05:14.468
[SPEAKER_02]: I think she's a great number two.

01:05:14.488 --> 01:05:20.411
[SPEAKER_02]: I think she's a great captain to report to the general of whatever you got going on.

01:05:21.171 --> 01:05:25.593
[SPEAKER_02]: But her as a number one, I just, that's where I'm like, nah, that's not for me.

01:05:25.653 --> 01:05:27.394
[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, I'm the exact opposite.

01:05:27.454 --> 01:05:29.355
[SPEAKER_02]: I think she's real solid in the ring.

01:05:29.915 --> 01:05:31.316
[SPEAKER_02]: You can always throw her in there.

01:05:31.656 --> 01:05:36.058
[SPEAKER_02]: She can take the laws for whoever baby face needs to, you know, get the win on the way.

01:05:36.658 --> 01:05:38.079
[SPEAKER_02]: But I think she's a great number two.

01:05:38.099 --> 01:05:39.520
[SPEAKER_02]: So when she does get called up,

01:05:40.100 --> 01:05:48.625
[SPEAKER_02]: Like if she's a number two for Tiffany Stratton or if she ends up, you know, her little group ends up working with Blake Monroe when this is all said and done, I think she'll be fine.

01:05:48.826 --> 01:05:51.407
[SPEAKER_02]: I think she'll be great in Excel and her role.

01:05:52.028 --> 01:05:54.309
[SPEAKER_02]: I just don't think she's ever going to be that lead person.

01:05:56.994 --> 01:06:13.654
[SPEAKER_01]: By the way, I know that one of the things that I kind of fast forwarded through to catch up because I didn't want Peacock to really screw me over and cut me off before I was able to get through the main event was the Stephanie McMahon and Joe Tessator segments.

01:06:14.295 --> 01:06:29.687
[SPEAKER_01]: From what I gathered, it wasn't as heavy-handed as the evolution rewatch that we did Kila where everything was like, oh my gosh, I never imagined an all-women's event in a million years in all that garbage.

01:06:29.707 --> 01:06:31.288
[SPEAKER_01]: How did they present that stuff?

01:06:31.629 --> 01:06:43.158
[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, they probably put Stephanie over as like the reason why women's wrestling is evolved or whatever, but how heavy-handed was that stuff in the Stephanie and Tessa Tour segments?

01:06:43.697 --> 01:06:47.422
[SPEAKER_00]: It was way less propaganda than the first go around.

01:06:47.482 --> 01:06:50.205
[SPEAKER_00]: It was way less Stephanie was a talking head.

01:06:50.305 --> 01:06:51.927
[SPEAKER_00]: She offered nothing of note.

01:06:52.468 --> 01:06:55.872
[SPEAKER_00]: She was just there because of her name to just get things over.

01:06:56.233 --> 01:06:57.554
[SPEAKER_00]: And that was perfectly fine.

01:06:57.855 --> 01:06:59.296
[SPEAKER_00]: She didn't over stay her welcome, but

01:07:00.778 --> 01:07:03.399
[SPEAKER_00]: I will say, like this was not a heavy-handed.

01:07:03.839 --> 01:07:06.799
[SPEAKER_00]: We changed the world of women's wrestling.

01:07:07.140 --> 01:07:08.400
[SPEAKER_00]: We made it possible.

01:07:08.860 --> 01:07:10.940
[SPEAKER_00]: Stephanie invented women's wrestling.

01:07:11.321 --> 01:07:12.981
[SPEAKER_00]: Triple H is a godfather.

01:07:13.221 --> 01:07:16.282
[SPEAKER_00]: Like it was none of that, which I think was really good to see.

01:07:16.382 --> 01:07:21.563
[SPEAKER_00]: Like they grown from the first evolution in terms of the talking point.

01:07:21.683 --> 01:07:23.804
[SPEAKER_00]: So good points there.

01:07:24.064 --> 01:07:29.465
[SPEAKER_00]: Stephanie was just a nice talking head, but she brought nothing of value.

01:07:30.740 --> 01:07:50.492
[SPEAKER_01]: If you guys were in charge of finding the, um, the right person to promote this show, who is not an active wrestler, who is not someone who is, you know, going to be a part of it from that perspective.

01:07:50.952 --> 01:07:52.093
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm sure to think about this.

01:07:52.573 --> 01:07:54.214
[SPEAKER_01]: Stephanie McMahon is not the right person.

01:07:54.334 --> 01:07:59.217
[SPEAKER_01]: She is going to be there for as long as she's going to be involved with this company for sure.

01:07:59.817 --> 01:08:21.996
[SPEAKER_01]: but she is not charming that is her problem is she she's kind of smiles weird and she's not charming and she comes across no matter what even when she tries to be nice she comes across as somebody's boss and I don't like that energy when I'm trying to root for something or enjoy something

01:08:23.355 --> 01:08:51.030
[SPEAKER_01]: uh... who would be someone that you could pluck out of yesteryear i know they remember you remember rustling thirty two and they change the deepest title to the women's world title they they they used uh... lead a i still think lead is the right person maybe it is trish but post career you could you could use her in that roles or anybody else that you guys would use in a role like that everyone wants AJ lead to be involved but she's been gone for so long

01:08:51.950 --> 01:08:55.391
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if that would necessarily be the right person, but that is an option too.

01:08:58.132 --> 01:09:03.474
[SPEAKER_02]: I think the, uh, one of the best person, two of the best people that you could have happened to be related.

01:09:03.594 --> 01:09:08.616
[SPEAKER_02]: One of them was in the Battle Royale, and the other one's husband was doing yes chance, uh, last night.

01:09:08.696 --> 01:09:13.138
[SPEAKER_02]: So, all those would be the best ambassadors for this.

01:09:13.258 --> 01:09:15.078
[SPEAKER_02]: I think they would both be great for it.

01:09:15.118 --> 01:09:18.700
[SPEAKER_02]: They have them hot cast platform where they would be able to promote it as well.

01:09:19.573 --> 01:09:21.838
[SPEAKER_02]: Brebella honestly would probably be the best person.

01:09:21.879 --> 01:09:23.543
[SPEAKER_02]: I think you could have pulled to do it.

01:09:24.024 --> 01:09:26.650
[SPEAKER_02]: If it wasn't this weekend, you probably could have made that happen.

01:09:27.071 --> 01:09:27.412
[SPEAKER_01]: Hmm.

01:09:27.432 --> 01:09:29.015
[SPEAKER_01]: What do you think, Kayla?

01:09:29.915 --> 01:09:32.136
[SPEAKER_00]: I think the bellows are the best choice.

01:09:32.276 --> 01:09:39.157
[SPEAKER_00]: I know some fans might despise it, but listen, I do enjoy their podcast when they have a lot of WWE talent.

01:09:39.617 --> 01:09:42.298
[SPEAKER_00]: They will always advocate for the women's division.

01:09:42.318 --> 01:09:53.020
[SPEAKER_00]: I will never forget Nikki was turned up as summer slam almost four years ago when Bianca lost that championship to Becky in the way that it happened and she was going off.

01:09:53.520 --> 01:09:57.081
[SPEAKER_00]: And that might have been the moment they said, well, well, your contract expired.

01:09:57.461 --> 01:09:58.321
[SPEAKER_00]: Like you can go.

01:09:59.141 --> 01:10:06.566
[SPEAKER_00]: because she went off, but we need that kind of passion and advocacy to really push for it like evolution.

01:10:06.626 --> 01:10:07.566
[SPEAKER_00]: I appreciate that.

01:10:07.666 --> 01:10:09.447
[SPEAKER_00]: So I like the bellows.

01:10:09.687 --> 01:10:13.470
[SPEAKER_00]: I think Lady Bee mentioned Beth Phoenix, AJ Lee's an option for me to you.

01:10:13.590 --> 01:10:21.955
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that is the one return that fans would really love to see in WWE at some point outside chance.

01:10:23.437 --> 01:10:34.840
[SPEAKER_00]: if they negotiate a deal, maybe page, if she decides to come back to WWE or because of politics, unfortunately, it won't be Mickey James, so it won't be her, but.

01:10:34.860 --> 01:10:37.561
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, Beth Phoenix is out too.

01:10:37.621 --> 01:10:38.761
[SPEAKER_03]: You didn't see who I was showing up.

01:10:40.101 --> 01:10:43.082
[SPEAKER_03]: He was hoping over there, so Beth Phoenix is out too.

01:10:45.078 --> 01:10:50.621
[SPEAKER_01]: I Kila saw probably when I because I watched I still haven't finished all in yet.

01:10:50.681 --> 01:10:59.826
[SPEAKER_01]: I still have two matches left, but I was preparing for a wedding, which is also why my watching of evolution was kind of funky today, because I was trying to catch up with everything.

01:11:00.126 --> 01:11:01.227
[SPEAKER_01]: I was out of wedding yesterday.

01:11:02.288 --> 01:11:05.773
[SPEAKER_01]: And so my wife is in the wedding, so she had to kind of be there all day.

01:11:05.793 --> 01:11:08.617
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't have to be there until early evening.

01:11:08.657 --> 01:11:14.406
[SPEAKER_01]: So I was trying to, I was like, how much of the show can I watch in the four hours that I have while I'm preparing?

01:11:14.987 --> 01:11:15.327
[SPEAKER_01]: And so

01:11:16.721 --> 01:11:39.506
[SPEAKER_01]: not much because that show was six hours by the way, but as that so I get to the event and I still got about I get there about fifteen minutes early so it's I got like fifteen minutes I just throw it on my phone and I see the end of the tag match and so I see Nick Wayne give a Christian the move and knocks him out and then I see edge come out

01:11:40.493 --> 01:11:43.156
[SPEAKER_01]: And then I see edge walk around the ramp.

01:11:44.257 --> 01:11:47.882
[SPEAKER_01]: And then I see edge do the penta dance down the stage.

01:11:48.042 --> 01:11:48.462
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm scared.

01:11:48.482 --> 01:11:51.005
[SPEAKER_01]: He didn't do the penta dance, but it was kind of like this.

01:11:51.766 --> 01:11:52.807
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like the same.

01:11:54.749 --> 01:11:58.974
[SPEAKER_01]: The same urgency as Penta and Jeff Hardy coming to save somebody.

01:11:59.795 --> 01:12:11.451
[SPEAKER_01]: And I thought, oh, you know, at least he and Christian could do something, but then I thought the same as Scott, which is I wonder what I wonder if Beth is going to do something because I would imagine even if Beth is like

01:12:12.423 --> 01:12:14.964
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, on WWE side, she's like, yeah, I would love to do stuff.

01:12:14.984 --> 01:12:22.466
[SPEAKER_01]: They probably don't want her to just because people would associate her with Adam Copeland and they don't like that.

01:12:22.586 --> 01:12:24.846
[SPEAKER_01]: So I wonder if she's kind of persona non-grader right now.

01:12:24.886 --> 01:12:27.367
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know that for sure, but it does make me wonder.

01:12:28.867 --> 01:12:34.369
[SPEAKER_01]: But okay, last thing on this, which is I think, whomever,

01:12:35.993 --> 01:12:49.869
[SPEAKER_01]: This person is, I think we need to see this woman around more because, you know, you have so many guys in these power positions, option triple H, Shawn Michaels, you know,

01:12:50.915 --> 01:12:58.618
[SPEAKER_01]: to win gets off of a private jet and people think like oh what is this going to be something with wrestling like they still associate him with that.

01:12:59.359 --> 01:13:11.344
[SPEAKER_01]: But there is not a woman in a high position in that company and I know Stephanie is supposed to kind of be that but she's as far as I know she's been work there anymore she's the one who stepped away.

01:13:12.104 --> 01:13:13.525
[SPEAKER_01]: There needs to be somebody in power.

01:13:14.594 --> 01:13:17.355
[SPEAKER_01]: to stand up for certain things.

01:13:17.595 --> 01:13:35.964
[SPEAKER_01]: And so what I would, I would love to see somebody in a role like that where they do hire a woman to be that spokesperson and stand up for certain things and help book the women's division and be that mouthpiece too because they need it.

01:13:36.004 --> 01:13:42.067
[SPEAKER_01]: Like the marketing aspect of it, like there's so, there's Scott knows this Kayla knows this.

01:13:43.464 --> 01:13:48.929
[SPEAKER_01]: How much bigger is Caitlin Clark than any woman's wrestler right now, right?

01:13:49.950 --> 01:13:57.857
[SPEAKER_01]: And the WMBA is not even taking advantage of it because they can't, like they don't have the marketing arm that WWE even has.

01:13:57.937 --> 01:14:00.920
[SPEAKER_01]: So imagine you put somebody in that spot.

01:14:01.740 --> 01:14:20.472
[SPEAKER_01]: you know I like I've been on the Bianca train that can how can we make Bianca bigger than life like the opportunities like right there um she's like the next one in waiting like the you know she's she's at the perfect time her and rea are kind of like right there and why are they not Caitlin Clark.

01:14:21.033 --> 01:14:25.936
[SPEAKER_01]: Divided to be can work all the finishes and it's it's all fake they can write the stories like

01:14:27.140 --> 01:14:28.560
[SPEAKER_01]: Why can't they be Caitlyn Clark?

01:14:28.600 --> 01:14:29.981
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, that's what I want to see.

01:14:30.461 --> 01:14:42.003
[SPEAKER_01]: We kind of had it with Ronda for that short period of time, but, you know, she wasn't going to be long for the business, but I want to see Caitlyn Clark in the WWE.

01:14:42.063 --> 01:14:44.784
[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't know why that we don't have that.

01:14:44.844 --> 01:14:46.224
[SPEAKER_01]: So, okay.

01:14:47.204 --> 01:14:53.385
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, the next match was the four women tagged, fatal, four-way tag.

01:14:53.405 --> 01:14:55.606
[SPEAKER_01]: We talked about that a lot, but I do want to mention,

01:14:56.660 --> 01:14:59.424
[SPEAKER_01]: Oscar and Kyrie Sainer, awesome together.

01:15:01.307 --> 01:15:07.556
[SPEAKER_01]: I made this joke, street, street clothes, Oscas, like my favorite wrestler of all time.

01:15:08.365 --> 01:15:27.476
[SPEAKER_01]: Whenever she's in her leather jacket like she just looks like she's like so much faster and stronger than what she's even in a wrestling clothes it's like a power up in a sense for her like if there was a video game and so street clothes asca is amazing and I just think her and Kyrie together were really fun like I yeah I was pretty sure that

01:15:28.497 --> 01:15:31.039
[SPEAKER_01]: uh, Raquel in uh, Roxanne.

01:15:31.059 --> 01:15:36.786
[SPEAKER_01]: We're gonna retain just because that storyline is is really first and in front of the line on wrong.

01:15:36.806 --> 01:15:38.387
[SPEAKER_01]: And I love that storyline as well.

01:15:38.427 --> 01:15:39.989
[SPEAKER_01]: By the way, I think it's I think it's amazing.

01:15:40.009 --> 01:15:41.691
[SPEAKER_01]: The judgment is cracked me up constantly.

01:15:42.352 --> 01:15:44.294
[SPEAKER_01]: But man, Oscar.

01:15:45.715 --> 01:15:53.558
[SPEAKER_01]: Kyrie, and then we had Alexa and Charlotte, and there are other teams that you can you can make in there.

01:15:54.658 --> 01:15:55.759
[SPEAKER_01]: I think that'll be amazing.

01:15:55.879 --> 01:15:58.600
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm really looking forward to whatever this tag team division.

01:15:59.460 --> 01:16:05.583
[SPEAKER_01]: It becomes, but like let's let's start doing it because I think there's

01:16:06.655 --> 01:16:12.741
[SPEAKER_01]: talent on the men's side of the tags as well, but that's like midcard city the way that they book them, right?

01:16:13.142 --> 01:16:21.150
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, you know, I've been on the street profits thing for ever as far as especially about Montez, but for whatever reason.

01:16:22.071 --> 01:16:30.240
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just midcard city unless a single champion like Cody, they put him in a storyline for the tag titles.

01:16:30.780 --> 01:16:32.462
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's not do that to the women.

01:16:32.482 --> 01:16:36.606
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's elevate these tag belts because they have so much talent with these teams.

01:16:36.646 --> 01:16:38.609
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's what I am hopeful for.

01:16:39.029 --> 01:16:42.673
[SPEAKER_01]: But was there anything else that we missed when we were talking about the fatal four way kilo?

01:16:44.007 --> 01:16:44.467
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's see.

01:16:44.688 --> 01:16:50.716
[SPEAKER_00]: So Ruka, snatching Charlie Flair soul and Charlotte selling it like the rent was due.

01:16:51.097 --> 01:16:51.938
[SPEAKER_00]: That was incredible.

01:16:52.519 --> 01:16:53.220
[SPEAKER_00]: I love that.

01:16:53.480 --> 01:16:58.568
[SPEAKER_01]: And it was perfect because the ones that I hate are when they have to jump into it.

01:16:59.609 --> 01:17:04.171
[SPEAKER_01]: And because it looks so fake, it looks like, you know, it looks so synchronized.

01:17:04.231 --> 01:17:10.775
[SPEAKER_01]: So the way that she hit that one, some of it is because Charlotte is so tall and there's a lot to grab.

01:17:11.075 --> 01:17:18.579
[SPEAKER_01]: But I thought that one was great because it didn't look like it was Charlotte helping, you know, helping set up the move.

01:17:19.602 --> 01:17:23.404
[SPEAKER_00]: It was out of nowhere, the fans pop for and Charlotte so beautifully.

01:17:23.865 --> 01:17:31.229
[SPEAKER_00]: And then like the Charlotte hot tack for me, it was everything like the way she moved, like the momentum she had.

01:17:31.269 --> 01:17:33.031
[SPEAKER_00]: It was really, really good stuff.

01:17:33.051 --> 01:17:41.236
[SPEAKER_00]: And then the finish up and kind of I don't know where kind of snuffed out the vibe of, oh Charlotte and Alexa could win this, but I think they will

01:17:41.816 --> 01:17:42.577
[SPEAKER_00]: down the road.

01:17:42.637 --> 01:17:48.104
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think our biggest challenge for the longest time is making sure this division stands out.

01:17:48.164 --> 01:17:53.591
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think the saddest thing for me still in this year would be the dissolvement.

01:17:53.671 --> 01:17:56.875
[SPEAKER_00]: Unfortunately of Lash and Jakara because Jakara got good.

01:17:57.709 --> 01:17:59.050
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, it's a bummer.

01:17:59.110 --> 01:18:00.890
[SPEAKER_01]: Is she doing stuff on the Indies?

01:18:01.251 --> 01:18:01.631
[SPEAKER_01]: She is.

01:18:01.711 --> 01:18:03.772
[SPEAKER_00]: She is actively being booked and working.

01:18:04.072 --> 01:18:04.452
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

01:18:04.552 --> 01:18:10.975
[SPEAKER_01]: She needs another name though, because I think I saw her other wrestling name, and it was not as cool as Jakarta Jackson.

01:18:11.335 --> 01:18:16.817
[SPEAKER_01]: She needs to think, she needs to go back to the drawing board with the wrestling name, because she's got talent, man.

01:18:16.917 --> 01:18:18.378
[SPEAKER_01]: Like she's got a great look.

01:18:18.458 --> 01:18:26.502
[SPEAKER_01]: So hopefully she can latch on somewhere, because I think I don't know if it was a mistake, because they have so many women, but

01:18:27.558 --> 01:18:30.761
[SPEAKER_01]: That's not, I don't think I would have cut her for sure.

01:18:30.901 --> 01:18:39.029
[SPEAKER_01]: I think I would have definitely let her, you know, kept her and see what they had with her in Lash and and see how far you could you could go with it.

01:18:40.070 --> 01:18:42.293
[SPEAKER_01]: What else did we miss anything Scott with the fatal for way?

01:18:43.825 --> 01:18:59.170
[SPEAKER_02]: The only other takeaway I had from it was that I'm pretty sure Oscar vibes out to three six or slim thug when she's in her car just chilling the way she was rocking out to that judgment they theme just just the way she was headbop and just like very natural like something she does on her own.

01:18:59.930 --> 01:19:00.570
[SPEAKER_01]: That's so funny.

01:19:01.431 --> 01:19:10.734
[SPEAKER_01]: I was kind of put in charge of coming up with songs for the wedding reception and so everyone's kind of in my age range which is you know

01:19:11.890 --> 01:19:25.402
[SPEAKER_01]: we we were going to the clubs in like the the late nineties all the way through like the mid-two thousand's like that's the sweet spot and so I put together the playlist with with that in mind but like what is your like

01:19:26.468 --> 01:19:35.275
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's saying y'all are going to clubs or anything, but like what's your party starter song from those days?

01:19:35.475 --> 01:19:42.540
[SPEAKER_01]: Like is there a song where you're like, if you want to get my people on the dance floor, just play this song.

01:19:46.631 --> 01:20:02.968
[SPEAKER_02]: It depends on where you at you know Party and bullshit Biggie all day that'll that'll get everything started But you know if you're with the family if you had to cook out or something and you got to keep it keep it whole some you could always just don't want to keep it shuffle and everybody just gets up

01:20:04.080 --> 01:20:04.500
[SPEAKER_01]: There you go.

01:20:04.680 --> 01:20:05.401
[SPEAKER_02]: What about you, Keela?

01:20:07.182 --> 01:20:08.082
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, it's a tie.

01:20:08.202 --> 01:20:12.464
[SPEAKER_00]: So I think if you want to turn up, you put on a little Monto Jordan.

01:20:12.504 --> 01:20:13.465
[SPEAKER_00]: This is how we do it.

01:20:13.965 --> 01:20:16.727
[SPEAKER_00]: Set the tone off right or that was on the list for sure.

01:20:17.367 --> 01:20:24.111
[SPEAKER_00]: Or you picked the song that people kind of prefer return of the Mac people love that song too was on the list too.

01:20:25.444 --> 01:20:52.068
[SPEAKER_01]: I might too go to and I'm again, I'm a little older than you guys, but Poison by Belvediveau is is is one and number two, which is kind of funny because I am from the West Coast and there was a little some problems with this stuff back in the mid to late nineties, but hypnotized by Biggie is the other one where when I was actually going to the clubs like that like that would get people who were like

01:20:52.688 --> 01:20:59.617
[SPEAKER_01]: kind of bored like their ears would perk up and they go, okay, I kind of have to go out there even if I'm not feeling this night.

01:21:00.178 --> 01:21:10.010
[SPEAKER_01]: And you would think that like Pock would would be the one, but Pock doesn't have that many dancy songs like, you know, people go rock out to California love or

01:21:11.847 --> 01:21:19.333
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, so I get around or whatever, but like not that like that that biggie song for whatever gets gets people going crazy.

01:21:19.353 --> 01:21:39.830
[SPEAKER_01]: So those are always my two that I think of as like, because like when the DJ was playing last night, there were moments where I was like, if you just played this two short song, if you just played below the whistle right now, all these people sitting down on their phones are gonna get up, but he didn't know, like he's, you know, maybe he doesn't know.

01:21:41.671 --> 01:21:43.172
[SPEAKER_01]: He was a little bit younger than me, I think.

01:21:43.292 --> 01:21:45.474
[SPEAKER_01]: But I put that on the list for a reason, bro.

01:21:46.014 --> 01:21:49.836
[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, if you could get that thing going and he didn't play.

01:21:49.896 --> 01:21:52.918
[SPEAKER_01]: He played it at the end, but it was almost done by then.

01:21:53.639 --> 01:21:57.001
[SPEAKER_02]: Was our Kelly step in the name of love when the list were played?

01:21:57.502 --> 01:22:00.984
[SPEAKER_01]: So I took out all our Kelly songs.

01:22:01.284 --> 01:22:09.309
[SPEAKER_01]: I took out all Kanye songs and I took out all puff daddy songs except

01:22:10.358 --> 01:22:27.547
[SPEAKER_01]: the past the Kovazie part two that's I kept that I kept that in there because I was like I'm really doing bus a bus some something wrong if I take the song out yeah but I forgive the atlbs yeah yeah so yeah but I had to shake your teeth either

01:22:28.585 --> 01:22:31.187
[SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely, no, no, no, no, no, no.

01:22:32.108 --> 01:22:33.349
[SPEAKER_00]: Nellies on the list too.

01:22:33.549 --> 01:22:33.829
[SPEAKER_00]: No.

01:22:34.330 --> 01:22:35.170
[SPEAKER_00]: What did Nellie do?

01:22:35.891 --> 01:22:37.112
[SPEAKER_00]: Went to do an accretion.

01:22:37.192 --> 01:22:37.492
[SPEAKER_00]: No.

01:22:37.632 --> 01:22:38.453
[SPEAKER_00]: We're at the ball.

01:22:38.613 --> 01:22:40.515
[SPEAKER_01]: Awesome.

01:22:40.555 --> 01:22:42.696
[SPEAKER_01]: Nellie and Carrie Underwood on plans.

01:22:42.857 --> 01:22:43.297
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yep.

01:22:43.857 --> 01:22:44.338
[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.

01:22:44.418 --> 01:22:46.099
[SPEAKER_00]: So she owned the last time here.

01:22:46.139 --> 01:22:46.259
[SPEAKER_00]: Go.

01:22:46.299 --> 01:22:46.820
[SPEAKER_00]: It's gone.

01:22:47.220 --> 01:22:47.420
[SPEAKER_00]: It's gone.

01:22:49.842 --> 01:22:59.127
[SPEAKER_01]: I popped a lady B in the discord one time with the is your mama have reindeer line when we were talking about something I forgot, but I popped it with that line.

01:23:00.067 --> 01:23:04.229
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, so let's let's get back to the stuff so we can get out of here.

01:23:04.870 --> 01:23:06.451
[SPEAKER_01]: We talked about Tiffany and Trish.

01:23:06.811 --> 01:23:07.631
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think we need to go.

01:23:07.711 --> 01:23:14.575
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I actually didn't realize that mattress actually only eight minutes and thirty seconds and that just makes me give them even more respect.

01:23:14.775 --> 01:23:15.995
[SPEAKER_01]: They didn't even get a ton of time.

01:23:16.696 --> 01:23:18.237
[SPEAKER_01]: But okay, Jade and Naomi.

01:23:19.197 --> 01:23:24.563
[SPEAKER_01]: This was a plunder because of the no holds barred stipulation.

01:23:25.203 --> 01:23:31.129
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not sure if Bianca Beller went to referee class this week.

01:23:32.791 --> 01:23:36.455
[SPEAKER_01]: There were moments where like Jade went to get the table.

01:23:37.490 --> 01:23:43.799
[SPEAKER_01]: And Bianca went over there and I was like, no, you're not supposed to help Jade pull the legs out of the table.

01:23:43.939 --> 01:23:45.441
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, like, what are you doing?

01:23:45.461 --> 01:23:49.006
[SPEAKER_01]: And then she was like, oh, yeah, and then she went back to check on Naomi.

01:23:50.308 --> 01:23:53.352
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, she didn't really, she, I think she was like trying to figure out

01:23:53.873 --> 01:23:55.354
[SPEAKER_01]: What am I actually supposed to do?

01:23:55.374 --> 01:23:59.755
[SPEAKER_01]: Because there wasn't really like many spots for her to, it's a no holds barred match.

01:23:59.775 --> 01:24:05.318
[SPEAKER_01]: There's no rules that anyone was going to break for her to be like, nope, you got a, you know, I'm a counten to five or whatever.

01:24:05.338 --> 01:24:06.778
[SPEAKER_01]: She was just there to call the pin.

01:24:07.138 --> 01:24:08.039
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's kind of weird.

01:24:08.059 --> 01:24:10.480
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I think.

01:24:11.220 --> 01:24:17.805
[SPEAKER_01]: putting Bianca in anything is a plus for me, because I just like seeing her, because I think she's got tremendous charisma and star power.

01:24:18.345 --> 01:24:28.713
[SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, I think this was a good way to get around the Jade and Naomi matches, which have been a lot of the same same, which is to throw the no holds part, stiff in there.

01:24:29.233 --> 01:24:31.595
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, Naomi had to go through a lot of stuff.

01:24:32.815 --> 01:24:35.177
[SPEAKER_01]: I was a little worried about that finish when it was happening.

01:24:35.237 --> 01:24:37.659
[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, oh, no, but they got it.

01:24:38.740 --> 01:24:39.200
[SPEAKER_01]: It worked.

01:24:39.240 --> 01:24:40.261
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought it was effective.

01:24:41.959 --> 01:24:45.200
[SPEAKER_01]: Jade is ever so slowly getting better.

01:24:45.760 --> 01:24:48.561
[SPEAKER_01]: I wish she was getting better faster.

01:24:49.501 --> 01:25:00.483
[SPEAKER_01]: But I still root for her to be as good as I think she can be because I think she's got a lot of a lot of the things that you look for in a pro wrestler.

01:25:00.983 --> 01:25:03.564
[SPEAKER_01]: But ultimately, Kayla, what did you think about this match?

01:25:04.272 --> 01:25:05.332
[SPEAKER_00]: I thought I was solid.

01:25:05.432 --> 01:25:10.054
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I want Jay to succeed to the brawl the night before.

01:25:10.074 --> 01:25:14.435
[SPEAKER_00]: I thought it really added to their match in terms of hype and excitement.

01:25:14.815 --> 01:25:22.337
[SPEAKER_00]: I just want Jay to get out of her head and not think about the spots and where you're supposed to be and just go with it.

01:25:22.437 --> 01:25:23.477
[SPEAKER_00]: That'll come with time.

01:25:23.957 --> 01:25:24.498
[SPEAKER_00]: She'll get there.

01:25:24.518 --> 01:25:28.699
[SPEAKER_00]: We have to remember she's had like less than a hundred matches in her entire life.

01:25:28.759 --> 01:25:31.399
[SPEAKER_00]: So she still has a ways to go to figure it out.

01:25:31.440 --> 01:25:32.800
[SPEAKER_00]: Hopefully she does very soon.

01:25:33.340 --> 01:25:39.225
[SPEAKER_00]: But it was a nice showcase for Naomi per the usual, despite the L, I did laugh for the nose, got bloody.

01:25:39.265 --> 01:25:40.286
[SPEAKER_00]: She said, well, you know what?

01:25:40.747 --> 01:25:44.150
[SPEAKER_00]: Let me go ahead and wipe my nose on Jay.

01:25:44.230 --> 01:25:48.273
[SPEAKER_00]: So we, I said she is so twisted.

01:25:48.613 --> 01:25:49.094
[SPEAKER_00]: I love her.

01:25:49.534 --> 01:25:50.855
[SPEAKER_00]: But Bianca Belair.

01:25:51.972 --> 01:25:53.013
[SPEAKER_00]: who I adore.

01:25:53.694 --> 01:25:59.001
[SPEAKER_00]: You're trying to be the most concerned referee asking your friends, are you okay?

01:25:59.382 --> 01:26:00.063
[SPEAKER_00]: Are you alright?

01:26:00.103 --> 01:26:00.723
[SPEAKER_00]: Are you good?

01:26:01.104 --> 01:26:07.492
[SPEAKER_00]: Like Bianca, you cannot have your emotions tied to this match, but she called it fair down the middle.

01:26:08.193 --> 01:26:12.377
[SPEAKER_00]: She gave Jade the Winfer and Square, and then we had that look between them.

01:26:12.697 --> 01:26:18.342
[SPEAKER_00]: So things aren't quite square with them yet, and we'll see where it goes when Bianca goes up.

01:26:18.362 --> 01:26:22.586
[SPEAKER_00]: My concern still is two splints on the fingers, and it's been three months since WrestleMania.

01:26:22.646 --> 01:26:25.369
[SPEAKER_00]: She's not near ready to come back, and that makes me sad.

01:26:25.389 --> 01:26:27.130
[SPEAKER_02]: What do you think it's got?

01:26:29.383 --> 01:26:30.943
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I thought the match was solid.

01:26:31.604 --> 01:26:37.285
[SPEAKER_02]: Naomi again shows why she is deserving of being the top woman on the roster.

01:26:39.146 --> 01:26:42.607
[SPEAKER_02]: Bianca, like you said, Bianca just being involved elevated.

01:26:42.987 --> 01:26:51.449
[SPEAKER_02]: And the school that Bianca went to for refereeing was the same school that the referee went to that was holding the table for Rhea and Rock Hill on Monday night roster.

01:26:51.469 --> 01:26:56.570
[SPEAKER_02]: So she was like, oh, so we're supposed to be holding the legs of the table for God and okay.

01:26:56.910 --> 01:26:58.171
[SPEAKER_02]: So that's that's that's that's cool.

01:26:59.352 --> 01:27:07.193
[SPEAKER_01]: but there wasn't even really a worry because I thought, okay, Bianca's got to get involved in some way, is someone going to accidentally push her or hit her.

01:27:08.161 --> 01:27:10.722
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, nothing really was there for her to do.

01:27:10.742 --> 01:27:16.204
[SPEAKER_01]: So I, you know, I think she's just there because people, you know, you want her to be a part of that show.

01:27:16.764 --> 01:27:21.986
[SPEAKER_01]: And she's, she's got to be at least, I think she was on the poster.

01:27:22.067 --> 01:27:23.827
[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, you want her to be involved.

01:27:23.847 --> 01:27:35.352
[SPEAKER_01]: So I guess, you know, you didn't want to get her to get physical or whatever, but maybe I would have had her like be the host of the show or something instead and help, you know, help get some of this stuff started.

01:27:36.052 --> 01:27:37.173
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it was fine.

01:27:37.293 --> 01:27:41.035
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought the thing on Saturday nights made of it was actually.

01:27:42.797 --> 01:27:43.917
[SPEAKER_01]: Really, really well done.

01:27:43.977 --> 01:27:50.402
[SPEAKER_01]: So I was like, oh, now she's going to be in this match and maybe that's why I was disappointed because I was like, I thought they set it up so well on the on Saturday.

01:27:51.230 --> 01:27:53.412
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, Stephanie Vicarre won the Battle Roy.

01:27:53.452 --> 01:27:54.693
[SPEAKER_01]: We talked through that one.

01:27:54.713 --> 01:27:58.796
[SPEAKER_01]: It was her in Lash legend, which was pretty well done.

01:27:59.576 --> 01:28:07.442
[SPEAKER_01]: And Stephanie Vicarre wins a World Championship match at Clash in Paris, which is August, thirty first.

01:28:07.462 --> 01:28:10.084
[SPEAKER_01]: So we have Summerslam in three weeks.

01:28:10.805 --> 01:28:16.628
[SPEAKER_01]: And then we have a clash in Paris about a month after that.

01:28:17.229 --> 01:28:26.314
[SPEAKER_01]: So like I was with the dates, I've been really confused about some of these shows because SummerSlam's early August, then we got clash.

01:28:26.935 --> 01:28:35.680
[SPEAKER_01]: And then I guess the NXT, or actually the NXT heat wave is probably heads up against some AEW show, the Sephora.

01:28:36.664 --> 01:28:40.945
[SPEAKER_01]: the the poor NXT brand just gets thrown to the wolves constantly.

01:28:41.805 --> 01:28:42.386
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, okay.

01:28:42.446 --> 01:28:43.786
[SPEAKER_01]: So, main event.

01:28:44.706 --> 01:28:47.227
[SPEAKER_01]: Rear Ripley and eels sky.

01:28:47.367 --> 01:28:49.568
[SPEAKER_01]: They got twenty six minutes now.

01:28:50.468 --> 01:28:53.109
[SPEAKER_01]: Two or three of that was added with with Naomi.

01:28:53.649 --> 01:29:01.371
[SPEAKER_01]: Like Scott said, they made it very clear that once she was added to the match, three ways or no disqualification.

01:29:02.471 --> 01:29:06.412
[SPEAKER_01]: She was rare and back like Barry Bond's to swing that briefcase.

01:29:06.512 --> 01:29:07.912
[SPEAKER_01]: She was just waiting for that bell.

01:29:08.292 --> 01:29:11.653
[SPEAKER_01]: Like she even took like a half swing and she looked back.

01:29:11.733 --> 01:29:13.314
[SPEAKER_01]: She's like, you're gonna ring this bell.

01:29:13.614 --> 01:29:15.014
[SPEAKER_01]: Like I'm waiting to the swing.

01:29:15.594 --> 01:29:16.894
[SPEAKER_01]: They finally rang the bell.

01:29:16.994 --> 01:29:17.735
[SPEAKER_01]: She swung.

01:29:18.555 --> 01:29:21.135
[SPEAKER_01]: And then we got to the finish there.

01:29:21.676 --> 01:29:23.616
[SPEAKER_01]: So, some of the things I like about this match.

01:29:25.116 --> 01:29:27.577
[SPEAKER_01]: Eosky is such a delight.

01:29:29.478 --> 01:29:35.280
[SPEAKER_01]: She is very good at WWE style, but she has her own wackiness to it.

01:29:36.500 --> 01:29:44.902
[SPEAKER_01]: She, there's still some moments where I'm like, is it, was this was happening that way or did she do it this way just because like she's kind of improvising?

01:29:44.922 --> 01:29:50.704
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, she has that feeling within her, like, there's some wrestlers in WWE where you're like, nope.

01:29:51.535 --> 01:30:08.583
[SPEAKER_01]: They're doing it exactly the way that they want to they're supposed to do this match nobody's going off script at all even if they feel something the crowd but sometimes I wonder I'm like I wonder if that was supposed to happen that way or if she's just going with it because that's how she learned how to how to wrestle and you know what can you say about Ria

01:30:09.750 --> 01:30:18.315
[SPEAKER_01]: Rhea is absolutely, if she's not the top woman on the brand, she's in the top two or three, I'm sure everyone has their favorites.

01:30:19.296 --> 01:30:23.599
[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like what WWE wants out of their top woman.

01:30:24.079 --> 01:30:28.222
[SPEAKER_01]: She probably fits the bill more than anybody else that that they have.

01:30:29.353 --> 01:30:42.065
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, even if I feel I still feel like it's either her or Bianca and then there's some vets there that, you know, on any day of the week could could be the top person, but um, she's just great.

01:30:42.405 --> 01:30:44.927
[SPEAKER_01]: She's she's taken to the wrestling like

01:30:46.028 --> 01:30:49.850
[SPEAKER_01]: Nobody's that I've seen really from.

01:30:50.591 --> 01:31:02.077
[SPEAKER_01]: We saw her in the May Young's May Young classic when she's like a teenager and then to get to the NXT level and then she becomes the NXT top star in a short few years.

01:31:02.117 --> 01:31:07.260
[SPEAKER_01]: She's now on top with this with the Rob Rand.

01:31:08.160 --> 01:31:18.404
[SPEAKER_01]: And from a sports entertainment perspective, her stuff with Dom and priest was top notch and she's kind of pulled back on a lot of that right now.

01:31:18.464 --> 01:31:22.245
[SPEAKER_01]: She's not doing a lot of that character work as she was, but she's so good at it.

01:31:22.965 --> 01:31:24.206
[SPEAKER_01]: She's really a total package.

01:31:25.086 --> 01:31:26.967
[SPEAKER_01]: I actually thought she was going to win this title.

01:31:27.667 --> 01:31:29.488
[SPEAKER_01]: And then we were going to see what comes next.

01:31:29.548 --> 01:31:33.710
[SPEAKER_01]: But like we said Naomi wins it and that creates some curiosity.

01:31:33.750 --> 01:31:36.632
[SPEAKER_01]: It creates a little bit of mystery of where they're going.

01:31:37.052 --> 01:31:38.632
[SPEAKER_01]: But ultimately great main event.

01:31:39.953 --> 01:31:53.660
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't a great way to go off of paper view as well or PLE in the way that we do with today's current social media ecosystem because you want that thing to go viral, which is

01:31:54.540 --> 01:31:56.801
[SPEAKER_01]: Bianca cashing in as like the surprise.

01:31:56.821 --> 01:32:04.386
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, Naomi cashing in as the surprise and going off of the air with, oh my gosh, I can't believe they did that.

01:32:05.006 --> 01:32:07.488
[SPEAKER_01]: So ultimately, like really, really good stuff.

01:32:07.608 --> 01:32:09.729
[SPEAKER_01]: Kila, last thoughts on this match.

01:32:10.670 --> 01:32:13.972
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, one of the best matches of the year, EOS guys incredible.

01:32:14.312 --> 01:32:22.217
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm just so happy that she's getting this opportunity to show how great she is via this baby face run over the last year or so rare Ripley.

01:32:23.326 --> 01:32:31.451
[SPEAKER_00]: I just when I see her work and I see where she started from the Mayan classic with the blonde hair with the baby face so young.

01:32:31.471 --> 01:32:35.913
[SPEAKER_00]: And then she comes back, we're a broody and moody back in twenty eighteen.

01:32:35.933 --> 01:32:40.636
[SPEAKER_00]: And then she evolves even more in twenty nineteen to where she is today.

01:32:40.696 --> 01:32:42.617
[SPEAKER_00]: And as I think Scott and I talked about as well.

01:32:42.937 --> 01:32:46.059
[SPEAKER_00]: Like when she made the transition to the main roster was an easy.

01:32:46.239 --> 01:32:47.599
[SPEAKER_00]: She didn't get over immediately.

01:32:47.699 --> 01:32:48.160
[SPEAKER_00]: She won.

01:32:48.840 --> 01:32:52.021
[SPEAKER_00]: at WrestleMania Games Oscar, but no one really cared that much.

01:32:52.101 --> 01:32:58.762
[SPEAKER_00]: And she lost to Charlotte Flair and money in the bank, a match that initially the fans did not give a damn about.

01:32:59.142 --> 01:33:00.943
[SPEAKER_00]: And then Charlotte said, you can suck it.

01:33:00.963 --> 01:33:04.524
[SPEAKER_00]: She was flipping the bird and then they turned the entire match around.

01:33:04.864 --> 01:33:09.925
[SPEAKER_00]: So you saw her basically evolve via the judgment day.

01:33:10.565 --> 01:33:14.486
[SPEAKER_00]: And she was the front of that group for the last two or so years.

01:33:14.866 --> 01:33:17.207
[SPEAKER_00]: And now she's back wanting solo on her own.

01:33:17.727 --> 01:33:19.688
[SPEAKER_00]: And she's delivering at a very high level.

01:33:20.208 --> 01:33:27.530
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that people kind of underpreciate that because she doesn't work a lot of matches because Triple H doesn't put her in a lot of matches.

01:33:27.950 --> 01:33:28.650
[SPEAKER_00]: consistently.

01:33:28.950 --> 01:33:31.271
[SPEAKER_00]: That's like the double-edged sword if you get further championship.

01:33:31.571 --> 01:33:33.672
[SPEAKER_00]: You might get ice out of working consistently.

01:33:33.932 --> 01:33:36.173
[SPEAKER_00]: But when she does, you see this kind of magic.

01:33:36.213 --> 01:33:38.374
[SPEAKER_00]: And we saw it last night with her and E.O.

01:33:38.414 --> 01:33:38.714
[SPEAKER_00]: Sky.

01:33:38.754 --> 01:33:47.377
[SPEAKER_00]: And they were running back again because once again, we still don't know if re-erriply can in fact be E.O.

01:33:47.557 --> 01:33:51.339
[SPEAKER_00]: with a live awake referee to make the count.

01:33:52.699 --> 01:33:53.660
[SPEAKER_01]: Scott, last thoughts.

01:33:55.217 --> 01:34:01.780
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think this is one of the best women's, I think, like I said, I think this will be talked about for a while.

01:34:02.120 --> 01:34:07.562
[SPEAKER_02]: When we talk about Rio Ripley, like she has three of the greatest women's matches in WWE history.

01:34:08.162 --> 01:34:12.484
[SPEAKER_02]: Say what you want about her versus Charlotte, a WrestleMania, the triple threat this year, WrestleMania.

01:34:12.784 --> 01:34:19.727
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think this is going to go down as one of the better matches in moments WWE has when it comes to their women.

01:34:20.047 --> 01:34:22.528
[SPEAKER_02]: This is going to be up there with Becky and Bailey.

01:34:23.068 --> 01:34:25.749
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I'm sorry, Bailey and Sasha from the takeover.

01:34:26.129 --> 01:34:33.752
[SPEAKER_02]: This is going to be up there with, like I said, the triple thread, which Charlotte and Rhea, this is going to be a moment that we talk about.

01:34:36.373 --> 01:34:38.873
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's crazy that we've got her over.

01:34:38.933 --> 01:34:40.854
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a wrestling and that's what they took away from her.

01:34:40.954 --> 01:34:48.457
[SPEAKER_02]: It's one thing to do that with Rhea who you make a specialty traction and you have to, you have to come to the PLE to see her wrestle and stuff like that.

01:34:49.177 --> 01:34:51.158
[SPEAKER_02]: But EOS guy is built on wrestling.

01:34:51.178 --> 01:34:52.538
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, that's her whole thing.

01:34:52.578 --> 01:34:53.679
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what got her over.

01:34:53.719 --> 01:34:55.019
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what keeps her over.

01:34:55.059 --> 01:34:56.700
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's why the fans come to see her.

01:34:56.780 --> 01:35:01.142
[SPEAKER_02]: So now that she's not champion, I'm looking forward to seeing her wrestling on TV.

01:35:01.202 --> 01:35:01.622
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

01:35:03.743 --> 01:35:04.203
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

01:35:05.063 --> 01:35:08.845
[SPEAKER_01]: I want to thank the both of you for jumping on and doing this.

01:35:09.505 --> 01:35:13.707
[SPEAKER_01]: I needed, this was more of, you know, because I could say that was out of town.

01:35:13.767 --> 01:35:16.328
[SPEAKER_01]: And so I came back and I was like, oh, I want to do this evolution show.

01:35:17.188 --> 01:35:46.855
[SPEAKER_01]: who am I going to do it with and you guys just raise your hand and said that that you do it even even though I said oh yeah I don't want you guys to do so much like you know wrestling you know sometimes you should just be able to watch it and not think about talking about it but the rap is coming up on Tuesday night after NXT will put that up audio and for people to listen to on Wednesday morning and sounds like this Seth Rollins thing I'm trying to figure out

01:35:47.735 --> 01:35:52.576
[SPEAKER_01]: how hard they're trying to either k-fade people or this dude is really hurt.

01:35:52.636 --> 01:35:54.156
[SPEAKER_01]: Where do you guys sit with this set thing?

01:35:55.536 --> 01:36:01.417
[SPEAKER_00]: Well Paul says he's going to Birmingham tomorrow so fair.

01:36:01.938 --> 01:36:07.359
[SPEAKER_01]: I guess my thing is why would you have to k-fade this so hard?

01:36:07.839 --> 01:36:10.739
[SPEAKER_01]: Like what would be the reason to have to k-fade it so hard?

01:36:11.839 --> 01:36:12.859
[SPEAKER_01]: There's no good reason.

01:36:12.879 --> 01:36:15.660
[SPEAKER_01]: Just because he lost to give him the reason to lose?

01:36:16.788 --> 01:36:17.449
[SPEAKER_00]: I have no idea.

01:36:17.529 --> 01:36:29.320
[SPEAKER_00]: They shouldn't have served somebody and say he'll be back a summer slam and he caches in there, but if he goes a Birmingham tomorrow and this guy goes in at the knife, but into this week is going to give us the answer regardless.

01:36:29.880 --> 01:36:31.021
[SPEAKER_00]: Creative control.

01:36:31.382 --> 01:36:32.763
[SPEAKER_03]: Creative control.

01:36:32.783 --> 01:36:36.606
[SPEAKER_01]: I when I was watching Saturday, it's made event.

01:36:37.582 --> 01:36:38.785
[SPEAKER_01]: He does the thing.

01:36:39.326 --> 01:36:42.853
[SPEAKER_01]: And Michael Cole goes, see right there his knee buckles.

01:36:43.094 --> 01:36:45.619
[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, this brother's knee did not move.

01:36:45.659 --> 01:36:46.922
[SPEAKER_01]: He's wearing black pants.

01:36:47.042 --> 01:36:48.084
[SPEAKER_01]: How are we supposed to see?

01:36:50.218 --> 01:36:53.059
[SPEAKER_02]: For me, for me, it was how calm he was in the corner.

01:36:53.119 --> 01:37:00.841
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I was thinking, he either knows he's never walking again, or this dude is just like, hey, this is where I need to stop right here.

01:37:00.882 --> 01:37:02.822
[SPEAKER_02]: So what we're going to do, we're going to sit right here for about two minutes.

01:37:02.862 --> 01:37:04.003
[SPEAKER_02]: I need you to bring these trainers out.

01:37:04.103 --> 01:37:06.063
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's get this problem and Paul Hayme walked over.

01:37:06.563 --> 01:37:07.784
[SPEAKER_02]: So I don't know.

01:37:09.544 --> 01:37:14.806
[SPEAKER_02]: I just knew he was coming back out at the end of the night, and that was wrong about that.

01:37:14.886 --> 01:37:17.327
[SPEAKER_02]: So I hope I hope he's not hurt too bad.

01:37:17.827 --> 01:37:19.768
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he's fantastic.

01:37:19.788 --> 01:37:20.608
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want him to be hurt.

01:37:20.628 --> 01:37:21.549
[SPEAKER_01]: And they got all the plan.

01:37:21.729 --> 01:37:38.356
[SPEAKER_01]: But the thing that is interesting is if he is hurt, um, all of a sudden kind of, all of a sudden, brown breaker kind of gets thrown into a bigger spot, which could be really great or maybe something he's not ready for without be interesting.

01:37:39.176 --> 01:37:44.499
[SPEAKER_01]: And if Seth is really hurt, they will probably turn somebody else

01:37:46.540 --> 01:37:53.706
[SPEAKER_01]: heal because they this group just takes up so much of the TV time on on raw these days.

01:37:54.366 --> 01:37:56.087
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, we'll see.

01:37:56.628 --> 01:38:03.193
[SPEAKER_01]: I hope it's KFA, but at the same time, like, why are you guys working so hard to try and fake out the fans?

01:38:03.513 --> 01:38:06.175
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, we're gonna figure it out at some point.

01:38:07.156 --> 01:38:31.542
[SPEAKER_01]: Shonarassap or Dave Meltzer are going to figure it out and they're going to say yes either he's injured or know this is really fake and then this could be like our truth thing all over again where they're going to you know that the information comes out and then they got to talk about it in a way that makes it seem like you know that they were ahead of everybody like and by the way what the hell it is our truth doing right now not much

01:38:33.711 --> 01:38:35.336
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, I didn't even run killings anymore.

01:38:35.777 --> 01:38:36.138
[SPEAKER_01]: I know.

01:38:36.278 --> 01:38:37.421
[SPEAKER_01]: He's back to our truth.

01:38:37.461 --> 01:38:38.665
[SPEAKER_01]: He was our truth.

01:38:39.366 --> 01:38:42.014
[SPEAKER_01]: AKA Ron killings and then just back to our truth.

01:38:42.658 --> 01:38:49.802
[SPEAKER_00]: And I hope I'm partially responsible for that because the fans wanted you to change your theme song.

01:38:50.343 --> 01:38:54.705
[SPEAKER_00]: And when you said, I'm going to keep it the way it was, I was like, well, now we're done.

01:38:55.145 --> 01:39:00.368
[SPEAKER_00]: Because see, if you're not going to come back completely different than what are we doing here.

01:39:00.668 --> 01:39:00.989
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:39:01.249 --> 01:39:01.529
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:39:01.869 --> 01:39:05.271
[SPEAKER_01]: Just can't just cut your hair and expect that to be it.

01:39:05.391 --> 01:39:06.532
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, I'm still our truth.

01:39:06.632 --> 01:39:07.632
[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, no, no.

01:39:08.033 --> 01:39:09.554
[SPEAKER_00]: You are Suzuki truth now.

01:39:10.354 --> 01:39:11.675
[SPEAKER_02]: That is who he's driving now.

01:39:11.695 --> 01:39:12.975
[SPEAKER_02]: He's driving now.

01:39:12.995 --> 01:39:13.716
[SPEAKER_02]: So that's what matters.

01:39:15.737 --> 01:39:18.018
[SPEAKER_00]: Driving off the impasse as we speak.

01:39:19.259 --> 01:39:19.739
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

01:39:20.800 --> 01:39:28.444
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you again to Scott and Kila and we'll be back on this network as far as a live stream.

01:39:28.464 --> 01:39:33.947
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I think I don't know Paul Paul I know Paul's out of town for the dynamite show Jeff

01:39:37.114 --> 01:39:43.496
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, I think they're still doing their show, but something like Paul is going to do it without having watched the paper.

01:39:43.516 --> 01:39:43.996
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

01:39:44.016 --> 01:39:45.137
[SPEAKER_01]: This is going to be something funky.

01:39:45.157 --> 01:39:46.157
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll see what happens out.

01:39:46.217 --> 01:39:48.138
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll keep people in mind.

01:39:48.158 --> 01:39:50.378
[SPEAKER_01]: And then obviously Thursday speaking a strong style.

01:39:50.438 --> 01:39:56.200
[SPEAKER_01]: And then the power bomb shadows will be back in their normal spot on Sunday morning.

01:39:56.921 --> 01:39:57.301
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

01:39:58.181 --> 01:40:01.863
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you to the folks who are in the chat.

01:40:02.584 --> 01:40:05.346
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you to everybody who's been hanging out with us.

01:40:05.886 --> 01:40:07.187
[SPEAKER_01]: Peace out.