July 17, 2025

Hangman Page's state of the union, Toni Storm & Athena begins: All In fallout | The Dynamite Show

Hangman Page's state of the union, Toni Storm & Athena begins: All In fallout | The Dynamite Show

On this week's show, Paul Fontaine is out of studio and on the road but is joined by Jeff Hawkins for an extensive discussion about All In and what it means for AEW's future and then they do a quick recap of an episode of AEW Dynamite where not much happened but the show did include:

  • A rah rah speech from Hangman Page to kick off the show that didn't get any clear direction for what's next for him
  • Adam Copeland's return to Dynamite where he made it clear he was not trying to help Christian Cage
  • A Timeless Toni Storm promo that set up a feud with Athena, who won the women's casino gauntlet on Saturday
  • Kyle Fletcher getting a nice showcase win to set up a TNT title challenge as well as Okada getting a squash win to set up a match with Swerve Strickland
  • A main event party match that saw the return of Darby Allin to Dynamite after the match to set up something with Jon Moxley

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[SPEAKER_03]: Dino Man!

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hey everybody, it's a dynamite show of better late than never a Paul von Tain alongside Jeff Hawkins here on the Viking Media YouTube channel as well as the Viking Media Free audio feed on Thursday morning.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I am coming at you live from the holiday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You sound like you're on NPR.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do I?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, trying to, I mean, there's nobody around, but I still am trying to be mindful.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm in a lobby of the holiday and express in, I can't remember what's called would about British Columbia, which is part of Victoria.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And here on holidays with my family, they're in the room.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I watched, I watched a WWE Dynamite tonight while I was waiting in line to get on a ferry.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I finished watching it on the ferry and then my internet died as we were about to start the show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I assume we're broadcasting live right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We will have no chat, I don't think, but we'll go through this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we're, we are going to, well, we should, but we don't.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know why, but that's okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: People that didn't see this on YouTube can definitely listen to us in the morning.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe we'll get more downloads in usual.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But Jeff, before we get into Dynamite, and honestly, this is going to be, I told you, and I told my wife, I'm going to try to get this done in an hour or so.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to zip through the Dynamite report because honestly, I don't think much happened.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I do want to talk about all in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, let me ask you a question for what we go into that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Were you disappointed by the follow-up of this guy?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, he's a V away.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because actually, they wanted that raw after WrestleMania feel.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, uh, it's not raw and it's not WrestleMania.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, um, it's a W and, and I mean, I think we got more

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[SPEAKER_00]: Then we usually get in terms of, you know, hey, here's what happened.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And here's how you can order it if you missed it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think we kept it well on the show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Don't get.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Those things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they make a bit like WWE makes a big deal out of that show after WrestleMania.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think there was there's a certain segment of wrestling fans that really wanted something.

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[SPEAKER_01]: to pop off on this show and I think they're I think that was in their minds because I don't I agree with you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think Tony works that way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right Tony Tony look down goes I'll give you this all star tag match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and we got we kicked off the show with hangman and

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[SPEAKER_00]: you kind of a state of union address and you know hey I mean the chapter of one story ended and the chapter of the next story is going to begin and we don't really know what that next story is I don't think and again I will be out in front I did not see the main event so if they set up something in the main event that tells you clearly what the next direction is other than MJF is lurking but I don't think that's happening anytime soon

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[SPEAKER_00]: But to your point, you wanted to talk about all in real quick.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So let's see.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, well, and by so very real quick, it may end up being more than we talk about.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I watched it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, it was a hell of a long show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I started watching it on Sunday, watch the pre show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I actually, I watched the pre show up until the matches started, although I've zipped through a lot of it, but there was actually some good content on I thought on the pre show that wasn't wrestling, like in terms of interviews and stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I did watch a lot of that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I watched the matches and then I watched it all in.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it took me two full days of

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[SPEAKER_00]: watching at to which point like my wife even said, oh, are you all caught up?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I laughed at her.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, no, I said, I haven't even finished the first show yet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I did finish the first show last night.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I started watching NXT and I got almost through that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I mean, I did finish all in and I thought up until the last two matches.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, if they, if the show would have ended before, I said, I feel like I said this before.

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[SPEAKER_00]: One of the show's last revolution maybe, where if it had ended at that match, it would have been like maybe the best show I'd ever seen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then the last two matches were really good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Great even.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But even though Omega Akata was great, it didn't meet expectations.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was also confused.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I haven't listened to any recaps.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't know if I'm the only one that was confused.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I thought they were under continental rules.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you had a bushy out there, seconding him, and I remember a continental match where the ref was furiously screaming at someone, you can't be here, get out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it was Mike Bailey was trying to check on Kevin Knight or something, and Aubrey was having none of it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You out of here, you're going to be fired, dude.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then Don Callis is pulling the ref Rio, and like, hitting Kenny, and then apparently Tony explained after

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[SPEAKER_00]: This match was under unified rules, but going forward, it's going to be under the continental rules.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Are we ever going to get back the twenty count for tag team matches?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then they tend to, they tend to, it tends to hurt their, they like to tell you that they're doing good storytelling.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But they tend to kind of bend those rules to where they need, oh, we have this spot we want.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we can't do it this time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But from now on, we're going to do it this way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you're just kind of like, and to be fair, I'm actually going to give Tony some credit here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think in his mind, he thought it was clear.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it clearly wasn't, so he had to explain it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think all along can like in Tony's mind, no, no, we're not using the continental rules for this match because it's the unified title.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's different.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, this is probably going to rule somewhere.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That has to be your, I'll let you complete your thought.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Then I'll go through what I thought of the car.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I just, I wanted, I kind of want to talk about a few things, but I want to ask you Jeff, what did you think of the main event?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's interesting because my mom and my parents house and my mom came in and her sense of justice kicked in real quick.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, especially about the, he should be able to use crushed glass like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, the blood, the blood, the blood absolutely turned her off.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought it went hardcore quick and I thought,

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I, I, I, I kind of go back and forth on it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought it was kind of excessive excessiveness.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But it's what Moxley has been doing this entire time as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I wasn't shocked by it, but at the same time, I'm just like, oh, man, it's going to be this kind of match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't mind it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I didn't mind.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought, you know, I thought the run-ins.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we knew there were going to be a ton of run-ins.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they made sense for the storyline.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But they nailed the landing on it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I can't, I can't complain all that much about it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: For the card itself, I thought oddly enough, they had a much better strategy on this one than they had on previous paper views in that they made

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[SPEAKER_01]: But it also worked against them in a way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They made the second half of this paper view.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Main of it, main of it, heavy kind of a thing where it's like the Bangor Bangor Bangor Bangor to end it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: As opposed to spreading them out throughout the card.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, where that hurts you is that this, you could have dumped the entire first half of this card for my money.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It could have, yeah, it could have been off like, like the complets and all that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I get that this is your WrestleMania Quoker or this is your big show of the year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you want to get as many people on as you can.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But my god, some of those early matches, I thought overstate they're welcome until we start getting to the to the tag match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The tag match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought was the best thing on the show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, by by miles.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I won't go by I won't go by miles because I really like that women's match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was I thought that women's match was the second and the main event was the third.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's my order as well, I think.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm not, I'm not the biggest bucks fan, but that match was really, really good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I had a friend complaining to be the entire.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So let me get this straight.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He kicks out of a tombstone pile driver early, only to get hit by an elbow and a kick.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's what gets the pinfall.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I understand the logical

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[SPEAKER_01]: in consistent life bar window.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I get it that and that's something you have to excuse, but it was still a very good tag mentioned.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought I'm Mercedes and Tony had a night.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I love that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's one of those things where it's it's so funny to be listening to to the dialogue of people who analyze this stuff because

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[SPEAKER_01]: The people that really wanted, because there was this weird catharsis after this show, like they had gotten rid of a ghost or something, especially like people like putting pictures of CM Punk from Saudi Arabia on the mat next to Hangman holding his title up and stuff like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then the women's evolution show happened.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and between the main event and the opener on those, both of which were great matches.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You may not have liked the ending of the main event.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I haven't seen that so.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, those two matches and the Mercedes Tony match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You put those on a card all three together, man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That thing, that thing would have been legendary.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I thought women's wrestling had a really good weekend.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean,

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[SPEAKER_01]: The main event I thought.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Again, it did everything it should have done.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, it's weird because it feels like it happened three weeks ago.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it only happened a few days ago.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, yeah, I mean, we've already seen dynamite.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I just watched it yesterday and you're already still think I still think the major problem with it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: turns out to be one of the problems with the main event of this show tonight and that the death writer should have been dead and gone with the destruction of John Moxley as the champ in my opinion and and clearly that's going that's continuing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So so what I'll say about the main event is I

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was exactly, well, it was what I was expecting, but but at the same time, I, when I see it, I don't like it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And like there's things about it, like the fork to the head.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Marine are going through a table at the hands of Hangman.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't, we'll show it down that spot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, the broken glass on the back and then all the blood, like the blood's fine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, blood, I don't have a problem with blood.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The bed and nails.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I had a problem with nails.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that was clearly gimmicked.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't even mention that, but true.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then the hanging, which we've seen before.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So all that stuff, I mean, that was what we expected.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you take all that out of it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They could have done none of that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and they would have still had an awesome match and told the exact same story.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think that that was just like super, superfluous, superfluous.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was there to satisfy John Moxley because that's what he wants to do and hang man's right there for it and a lot of their fans love it, but you could have had the same match

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[SPEAKER_00]: It may be finished with the hanging, you know, like that makes sense.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then, you know, and still do all your runs because that made a lot of sense.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that didn't bother me at all.

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[SPEAKER_00]: In fact, I was totally into it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I mean, as a match, like I gave it five stars because it's what they promised and they told a great story and everything.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I never want to see it again to the point where the point where like the next time they do a death match, I've already told myself, I'm not watching it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, if it's on a paper, you're not ordering, and if it's on a dynamite, I'll get somebody else to do the show that week, because I'm not watching another A, W death match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, that's, I'm not watching another moxley death match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that, that to me is the promise is, is that blood spot?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, well, the Swerve Hangman death match was pretty disturbing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, there was a excessive excessiveness in both.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, really what what you want.

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[SPEAKER_01]: is for the moment you get blood to be the most dramatic moment in the match for me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they just did it within like tens, fifteen seconds.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're pulling out forks and doing it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're just kind of like, okay, where do you go with the first move?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, hey, man, yeah, you could see the blood come.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, this wasn't worked.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the other thing I noticed, I don't know if you've noticed this before, and I posed this question.

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[SPEAKER_00]: A lot of people said it's normal, but I think maybe a lot of people normally watch A, W, the way I watched it this time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it was the baby face, well, the wrestlers in general, they swear a lot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't know if you've noticed this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm watching, I have these headphones on while I was watching, and their Bose headphones, and they have crystal clear sound.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I'm hearing like individual fans, chanting stuff, and whatnot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And these wrestlers swear a lot during these matches.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And to the point where it was starting to turn me off.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like at one point in the gauntlet, Anthony Bowens screams out at like two of the guys, he's like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: You too, sir.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh-oh.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She screamed out.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Fuck you!

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then there's like a bunch of other stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was just like, and then Hangman kind of like, like I think it's John Moxie at one point said, I'm the champion of the fucking world.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then tonight like Hangman basically repeated that line, which that I was okay with, because they bleeped it in plus, I mean, it made sense.

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[SPEAKER_01]: One stone cold is fine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: An entire locker room of them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's usually the baby faces, which is funny.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I agree with you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I also, I really had a problem with John Moxley only having like a bandage over his forehead for this match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't see it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I wanted him to be selling a lot more of the injury.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And instead, we get the Tony Con Bangor in the Oberon and you're just like, okay, I wanted to actually selling the ligandry from last week on that on the paper.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was that tag match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just, okay, I got it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like did as I was watching it, but then when I thought about it after it's like, wait a second.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was mad at it when I saw it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, what was the point of destroying his leg if it leads to nothing within this?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, you know the point, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: The point is, they changed the booking and decided that her business were keeping the belt.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, oh, we better give jet speed some heat.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what happened.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sure, but it was, it was the, it was the concerto by the Patriarchy that did it for the most part.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's in play and do it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And just, yeah, I get it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the,

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not just

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[SPEAKER_01]: the time factor.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because I mean, I say, I mean, we all have our comfort food paper abuse that we'd like to throw on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think there is one for AEW for me because they're just so long.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If there was one, it would be the first full gear, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: That the second, the second double or nothing, I think I would want to watch because it reminds me of feeling good coming out of the pandemic is like the first time they had a show that felt like a real show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But that's nostalgia.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's not, you know, oh God, wait, this is six hours long.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, like, that's the thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so here's what I'll say about this, like the six hours.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I saw a lot of people complaining about it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Normally I would

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I, you know, as a fan watching, I don't like a six-hour show, but I understand why they did it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think they needed to do it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think it's smart that they did do it, even though I didn't particularly like it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Does that make sense?

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[SPEAKER_00]: WWE decided, hey, you have your biggest show the year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to do three shows that weekend, and we're going to counter program you in the front end and on the back end.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And AWS would find we're going to do a show and we're going to cut into your network show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And if you don't like it too bad, and I think what ended up happening was a W fans, they weren't going to watch the WWE stuff anyway, so it doesn't matter.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They didn't.

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[SPEAKER_00]: WWE and hurt a W at all.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I think a W may have heard WWE because there may have been some fans that might have been finished watching all in and said, well, well, give WWE a shot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then by the time that paid for you is over there, no.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And this Saturday's kind of end did not do a good number.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought it did.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought the second quarter and like the main event did well, but oh yeah, they did because all in was over I guess, but the first the first half like the overall show did it was down like thirty percent from the last one and the last one was on a holiday weekend.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not as upset.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was just one of those things where it's like the first half of the paper beer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm watching this and I'm going, this might be one of a W's worst paper views.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, and then the second half, it really picked up and it was great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think part of my issue was also, I really, the thing that left a bad taste in my mouth was the lack of proper, how do I put this?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Conditioning of the audience.

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[SPEAKER_01]: to be ready for Justin Rhodes, big mold.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my God.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because we followed, that match followed the Adam Cole.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I may never wrestle again, thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We booked this so that, so that Justin is fighting his tag team partner who just appeared on the pre-show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then he gets the flash roll up out of the blue.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And this crowd could, I mean, it finally dawned on them, but they were all expecting Kyle to Kyle Fletcher to win this belt.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it took the close-up of Dustin crying for this crowd to snap into the, oh, we need to be cheering loud right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was just one of those things where it just left such a, the poor planning of how to get those beats in there, just kind of, well, I think that match itself was kind of where could you have three baby faces and one heal.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the fans kind of wanted to heal the win and the fans wanted to heal the win.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, the, well, the thing is like, this that whole setup, like, okay, so I don't call it's injured.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, you know, like, you can't control that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you, it was going to be Adam Cole, Kyle Fletcher and Kyle Fletcher was probably going to win.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So then they decided, okay, well, we don't get Adam Cole.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's give the fans a feel good moment with Dustin.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think Tony overestimated the connection of Dustin to Texas.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And not just that, but if the fact is, is a lot of people traveled there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So even if there was a connection between Dustin Rosen Texas, a lot of the people there weren't from Texas.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So they don't have that connection.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Look at the Von Ericks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They didn't get nearly the pop that they should have Kevin Von Erick.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I mean, he got a big pop for doing the claw on the pre show, but it was not nothing special.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So having here's the funny thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: in the discord before the show or during the pre show when they announced that Adam Cole was out and they were going to do a four way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then they announced the members and one of our listeners, Lady B makes a comment.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, somewhere poor Anthony bones is wondering why he didn't get in the match or why he wasn't considered for the match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I and I responded and I said, well, he was considered, but

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[SPEAKER_00]: Tony decided that Dustin Rhodes was more worthy, even though he's never wrestled a single, he had rarely wrestled singles matches and he's got two other belts.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then Ryan Frederick, my old podcast partner, Pipes in, that, uh, well, first off their in Texas.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And secondly, it doesn't really matter who else is in the match because we all know Kyle is winning.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then, and I said, yeah, okay, you're probably right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because I mean, I, not for one second, did I think Dustin was winning that match until he did.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, you're right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like we weren't ready for it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't know about you, Jeff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm half expecting on Saturday.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We hear from Dustin Rhodes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I expect him to vacate the team two times.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What do you expect?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think I'm expecting an immediate one-on-one with Kyle Fletcher or Kyle Fletcher.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, we could do that, I suppose.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, or they could do, he could defend it at forbidden door and, you know, something could happen there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I don't know, I just, just a feeling.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, he, okay, for the first time in A, W, and it might be a fact the fact that he wrestled, I think it was like four times in three days.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he looked old, but I've still thought he did, I mean, he did this basics of what you did, but I mean, he he finally looked like maybe he doesn't necessarily he definitely doesn't

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he should not have a major singles title at this stage is what I'm saying.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't expect this to be a long-range.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, no, no, no, no.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This was for the Texas Connection.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, I mean, that's supposed to get let Sammy do it, he's from Texas too, but that wouldn't have made a ton of it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The funny thing is, you may recall, Sammy Gavara won a four-way match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it was for a hundred thousand dollars, but it was also a match where Adam Cole was on commentary, and he made belt and motions after the match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They actually set up a Sammy Gavara to challenge for the title, and then they just never fall through on it, and then they put it in a match for the title.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sammy is probably somewhat still in the doghouse given that he's only on ring of honor for the most part not on a W television not really no and and he's not even really on ring of honor that much remember what he was a killer yeah yeah I do I was I was out the show where he wrestled for the title I think I was there with you um the uh speaking of so okay so the other thing I want to mention the the gauntlet matches

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the gauntlet matches to me were a kind of a microcosm of the paper view as a whole.

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[SPEAKER_00]: OK.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They were good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought the men's was very good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But the men's was better than the women's by far.

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[SPEAKER_00]: By far, even though if you look on cage match, the women's for some reason has a much higher score.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's because the series in it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: By the ways out with an elbow surgery.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So really.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Brand opening, ground closing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've never seen Siri Russell.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I thought she was fine, but I thought Alex Windsor completely outshone her.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And maybe that's because maybe that was by design.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But the men's was very good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But then what happened was it went too long.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I mean, that whole Max Caster thing like that did not belong in there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I don't know why they did it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And there was probably like five guys in that match that didn't need to be in that match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And if they would have just kept it to like ten, it would have been like incredible.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And there's way too many spots where you had two guys in the ring, doing spots.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And everyone else in the ring just stood, everyone outside the ring just doing nothing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that happens in Battle Royals too, but at least they try to pretend that they're doing something whereas in this, they were just sitting there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And literally like just standing there waiting for their turn.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And for the women's, it was everyone had a second and everybody second got involved in the match and you're just like, to the point where Mina submitted Sky Blue and thought she won the match, even though Sky Blue wasn't in the match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was ridiculous.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was ridiculous.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so that at that point, I was just checked out on it because it was like there checked out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm checked out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it's funny because we, I did call both the winners.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I predicted MJ F and Athena.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, it's happy about that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Although Athena winning kind of made me think, oh, maybe in Mercedes is actually going to be Tony, but no, that's not what happened.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So maybe what's going to happen is we're saying Athena is going to winning the title and then maybe they do Mercedes Athena for the belt at some point down the road.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I found and I still continue to find that they need to clarify for the audience for the AEW audience is Athena a baby face or a heal.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She is one hundred percent a heal.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's a heel now, but it's one of those things with like, why to me?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because the whole story is she is the forever champion at Ring of Honor.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And now she's earned her way back to this AEW roster.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We should be rooting for her in some ways, but instead we're, it's, well, she's an abusive overlord of a mean.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, the minutes were over at one point, remember, if you remember the Billy and

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's see what Lexi story they were the they were one of the most over things in AEW when they were getting cheers and stuff and then they decided to go back to the heel stuff people want to cheer Billy Starks it's

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[SPEAKER_01]: And look, I thought we cut a decent promo tonight.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, for for Athena, you can't I didn't like calling Tonyo.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Why did he have to have her, but Well, Tony Tony's promo, I thought it fit for the crowd.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just

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[SPEAKER_00]: It fit for the crowd and it fit for the setting, but it didn't like the promo.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't like the promo.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What I didn't, you don't want to say, like, and this is my problem with Tony's promos, and it was perfectly clear here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She says the word tits at some point, and then the whole crowd starts chanting it at her.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's one thing when she says it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's quite another when, two thousand young men start chanting that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What did you think of hangman's promo?

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is kind of a, this is kind of a, this is kind of a, this is kind of a, this is kind of a, this is kind of a, this is kind of a, this is kind of a, this is kind of a, this is kind of a, this is kind of a, this is kind of a, this is kind of a, this is kind of a, this is kind of a, this is kind of a, this is kind of a, this is kind of a, this is kind of a, this is kind of a, this is kind of a, this is kind of a, this is kind of a, this is kind of a, this is kind of a, this is kind of a, this is kind of a, this is kind of a, this is kind of a, this is kind of a, this is kind of a, this is kind of a, this is kind of a, this is kind of a, this is kind of a, this is kind of a, this is kind of a, this is

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[SPEAKER_01]: of we've vanquished WWE for the weekend.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All of you were a part of it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just like that that's part of that kind of

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[SPEAKER_01]: release that a lot of the fan base had after their show and I'm just like, no, I don't want this part of it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I want Hangman to establish himself as the champ within this world type thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want it to be a metaphor of the two wrestling companies.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's, and the problem is WWE counter programming also forces them to live rent free in Tony's head.

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[SPEAKER_01]: quite a bit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I thought that was kind of a misstep.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I liked once he got going.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought Hangman was fine and fighting everybody in order and eventually and landing on Swerve.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then going into Moxley like that was good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, you know, okay, Hangman Swerve is unfinished.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously Swerve helped Hangman at the pay per view.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Although Swerv says he wasn't there to help hang man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's interesting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like he did it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's fine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But that's fine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We can have that and we can add in the shirt pocket.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Or I am like inflating him in edge.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think I am actually.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's possible too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because I think it was Edge that said he wasn't there to help Christian.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Where does I don't think Swervers actually told us that although he did throw hangman the chain.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's I mean, that's pretty clear.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, hey, uses buddy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, I kind of agree with you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't really think about the raw raw WWE stuff that you mentioned.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, it's pretty clear that that was what was going on there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I mean, it's funny because listening to a W fans since Saturday, between how they did and between how WWE, you know, in some ways, you know, the show was some of the couple of shows weren't as well received.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I will say going from watching all in to immediately starting great American Bash.

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[SPEAKER_00]: WWE looked so minor league like it was unbelievable that they ran a paper view in that venue darkened with the crowd was kind of dead.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The next T is is ice cold right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then a lot of their problem is a lot of their personality derived from the fact that they're using evolve and T and A people all in the place.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I thought they got a lot of mojo back from that evolution paper for the other day.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I haven't seen that yet again as a crowd.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Look, I get the critique of the crowd, the crowd kind of

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[SPEAKER_01]: played it up new their role so to speak, but okay, so to suit me W crabs don't don't oh yeah, just because they wanted that they were they had a notion to have the show succeed doesn't mean the show wasn't a success because they were too fat again to the the opener and the closer and look I'll even give some to Tiffany Stratton and

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[SPEAKER_01]: Trish and trash in a way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't my favorite man, but you know, if I go one two, I go opener and main event.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I mean, there wasn't necessarily a dud other than the battle royal on that show for me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, and then I think he's in crowd, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, didn't they get like a three hundred or something?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, they they they they they had, I mean, someone was paper, but we'll sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But same thing at all in.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, I'm pretty sure they probably five thousand, you know, comps.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, sorry, no, sorry, no, it's made a vent.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think started kind of that momentum with the main event, because I got a Goldberg had a better night than he had a right to do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not going to say what I haven't.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I haven't seen that either, so I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't great, but they forced them to go like work a match for twenty minutes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because of the Seth Rollins injury.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I heard about that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But look, I'm not, this is a W show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to talk about a W. And I thought, you know, it was one of those things where it's like, yeah, I was watching that too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was watching.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a little bit chest puffing, but for me, it was that there was something about not having buzz from within the wrestling community since punk, where they felt like,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We got a monkey off of our back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and then they're finally, and I, one other thing I will say in this place into Dynamite, because we were already talking about the page part once, so we'll get on with the rest of the show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But one thing I kind of hit me today, and I've mentioned this before, we all know Tony has like two hundred people under contract, and you know, and he doesn't have nearly enough like airtime to feature them all.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What I've noticed, and I mentioned this a couple months ago, and it's even more clear now,

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's got like maybe about forty to fifty people that he uses regularly now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the rest of them just are basically benched and occasionally, you know, they might show up and ring a boner or show up as jobbers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But for the most part, it's the same people on TV every week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's to the point now where, and I think he's hitting this point where it doesn't really matter what he advertises.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he can advertise nothing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know who's going to be on the show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, the death writer's going to be on the show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, hangman's going to be on the show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, it's worth an offspray.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, not offspray right now because he's written out, but the bucks are going to be on the show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like you've got your core, the women Willow, Chris Stattlander, Declas, Mercedes, you know, uh, I'm a nice guy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, manada.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like, you know, all these people, they're on every week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're either going to be on dynamite or collision.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And because of that, it's getting better.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the people are getting more over.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, even your Mexican wrestlers had to sell, and Dito are starting to get over.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because they're on every week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Somebody in the Discord mat, who's a listener, and if you're listening, hey, shout out to Matt.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You brought up, how is it that AW is able to get CML wrestlers over in our way, which never could?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's like, well, it's because they're putting them on TV every week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And people are getting used to them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they're going to use their moves.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they're, and they have fused that people care about whereas in our wage.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And this was happening in a W up until maybe six months ago.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They would just show up randomly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They'd wrestle.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then you wouldn't see them for six months.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They'd have a good match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then they won't win.

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[SPEAKER_01]: to what I want to follow and they wouldn't be followed up on like remember all the buzz for L. Heo Delva the kingo in that Kenny mega match and they did nothing with that good will absolutely nothing and then he got injured.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, and then he is also part of the follow with triple A because he uses triple S.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but, but it mean even with, you know, like commander commander, yeah, had to Sarah for the longest time like he'd show up and like a one point he's in one faction and then the next time you see him is four months later in different faction.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, now he's been on TV almost every week for like two months and people care people care about him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He had a match with the Danielson.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was really, really good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that was the point where it's like, OK, let's put this guy back on TV and let's have him start winning.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then they didn't, they had him lose a couple more guys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then they took him off for a while.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then they reintroduced him with the callous family, which is kind of a shock.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's like, OK, he fits here, though.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he fits well within the Don callous and I thought he was awesome tonight.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He was.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he got a bit in.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that we talked about then so that we after the page promo, we got a video package highlighting all ends.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was awesome.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We both said that Matt Nick arrived.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And of course, they are not they don't have to be called Matthew and Nicholas anymore.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They got there by an Uber because they lost their VP status and they were not, they were trying to hide from the cameras.

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[SPEAKER_00]: to know a veil.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's to those cute.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, funny thing is is like, we're hearing more about them as not being EVPs and we ever heard about them as EVPs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we're getting, it's fine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're getting, we have a step.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They paid it off and now we're going.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But also you shouldn't have heels making fun of them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like you shouldn't have Ricochet doing that bit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It should be some midcard for EVPs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we see that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We see that later.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like could have been like jet speed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Chatspeed would have been perfect there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Then we got Kyle Fletcher and Miss Garrett Dorada.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was a good match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, just kind of a rehab for Kyle Fletcher.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We all know he's going to be beaten Dustin for the title, I guess.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Unless he does what I say in a vacate, but they had a really good match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're really good match, but nobody.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was a good match, but it was a win.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're done.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was slightly weird on commentary, the amount of equivocating they did between Fletcher and Dorada.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, both these guys are the future of professional wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, I think, kind of flexures more than Dorada, at least for AEW standards.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I understand that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's a lot of might be in CMLL, like he is supposed to.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We have to put over our working partners here, and I get that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm fine with that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But it's just one of those things where I'm watching this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going, they are going out of their way to make sure that we are not seeing this as a Kyle Fletcher squash match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: which is what it ended up being.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Which is what it was.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You can win with sheer drop brain buzzer.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I love that move.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And maybe he's going to face a tummer here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She had to have her been door because he does that move too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then he did a problem to the camera saying Dustin Rhodes stole the biggest moment of his life and his mission is to get it back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So the team's.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll probably see him running.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I felt back soon enough.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's absolute money.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I love that guy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He is he is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's the guy that should be building around.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Then we got Renee with Matt and Nick again, and this is where this was the section where Rick and the Gates of Agony walked up and made fun of them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They were going to their dressing room and a stage hand was crossing out EVPs and changing it to Matt and Nick.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then Don Calis agreed and our showdown party should say and ask them to be in a match and

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[SPEAKER_00]: And not to join matches.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're not going to join your family, but we'll work with you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that was cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then cows as we, I have fifteen family emergency, we need help.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that was cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And boy, um, they're the guy cheering to bring the widow.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Where I am.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, he's being seen by dozens of people worldwide.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, so those keep those things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I should point out that they did point out that this was earlier in the night.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we shouldn't expect that cows just came up and asked them to help and next thing, you know, they're in a match like immediately because that's the next thing we saw was the eight man tag.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And this match was awesome.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's a party match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was the, I believe they called it Nate Mannell star or maybe that was a main event.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I wouldn't call them all cars.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was an eight man some stars and some guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it's Bandito.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Bandito's a star, Brody.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's beat.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're getting there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Josh definitely not.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Head to Sarah, I'm getting there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Young bucks, there's stars stars.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so yeah, it was this some star match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's probably probably four and a half star match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They had a great match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They went through commercials, a lot of fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And again, the heels won.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Head to Sarah got Ben Dito.

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[SPEAKER_00]: uh uh to uh with uh it was like a finish it was a sleeper yeah and he passed out and bucks and Alexander were working together and held off uh the baby faces so I think we're supposed to believe that the young bucks may end up joining the cows finally but I don't think they're gonna.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No I don't think that's what we're hit on there but I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It'd be interesting if we lost them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But good enough.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, it's part of it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But let's, like, if the plan is that Calus may want them, and then they don't join in the Calus family beats them down, they didn't really plant any seeds in this match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Did they?

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, so I don't think that's imminent.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I do think that's, that's probably happening at some point.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's going to go through.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, probably.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, because we still have that kind of like he still should be in the elite, but he's clearly not.

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[SPEAKER_00]: In fact, I don't even think there is an elite anymore, so.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Next we got something I didn't really like.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what you, but Adam Copeland.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And this just didn't hit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so he did a promo.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He explained what happened with Christian.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He said he wasn't there to help Christian.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He was there to get after FTR.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Did a long thing about his story with FTR.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He lied and said that

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[SPEAKER_00]: When he was in WWE, they talked about becoming a WTO's champion.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't even think the AW had a trio's title yet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then, you know, he just basically, so yeah, he was like, I told Christian at the Patriarcher.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to turn on him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what they did.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's a piece of shit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I have no interest in helping him and told him to find himself and, you know, he's on his own, he's an asshole.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he wants FDR, but of course he's gonna need some help, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't know, I just, it felt to me like, I think it was Kevin Ely put it this way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's over, but he's not nearly as over as he thinks he is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's the problem with his stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I agree with that and I'm going to tell you something and I know that this will be controversial as some people.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The sitting there and listening to people sing his theme song turns me off.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, because it just extends the segment.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't want.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want you telling me that you're better.

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[SPEAKER_01]: are not not better but I just want to look you're living legend I get that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I don't want you acting like a living legend I want you acting like a senior member of the roster who still hungry as opposed to.

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[SPEAKER_01]: doing the Randy Orton victory lap type of gimmick type thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I also do not buy any of the logic in this Christian story.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's stupid to be honest with you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There were there are far more creative ways they could have gotten there and they didn't.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're one out there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, you could.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the stokely interaction was fine though.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought that was good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I was going to get into that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So when he's done, stokely shows up and he's got a couple security guards who are one of them was Kevin.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Who's wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't, I've seen the other guy before, but I can't place, I can't place his name, but large black gentleman.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they were on either side of Stokely.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so Stokely claims that him and the FTR were really upset with what Copeland did at the pay of views.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So coincidentally, there were three anonymous emails that went to Tony Khan and Warner Brothers discovery complaining about it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And as a result of these three anonymous emails that they clearly did not send, even though they clearly did send.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now if Copeland does interferes in their matches, if he does anything to them, if he even shakes their hand, he will be fired.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If I met him, Copeland, I may want to check with Tony Khan to see if this was actually something he said.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But at this point, it's just something Stokely is claiming and everyone is taking for fact.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then, of course, Copeland says, well, you didn't say anything about you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he proceeds to spear him after the security guards leave.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He also called him a new balloon bow, which got the fans chanting, a balloon bow, which Ed was pretty happy with.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I hope that catch is on and he was kind of leading the charge for that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like it's like giving you your own nickname.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You don't do that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, he's he does that though.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you know, he ran that down our throat.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He, um, I think what's happened is is AEW has passed him by and he doesn't realize it yet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we'll see, we'll see what happens.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I don't know about that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just think he's brought a lot of the tropes from the other place with him and they work.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he knows they work and he continues to work them in there and just pisses people like us off.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, that's what I can meet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The answer is going to get pissed off with it too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And maybe that's by design.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe he's going to turn heel.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, and maybe that's how we end up back with Christian who knows.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But then that doesn't make sense because what they're feeding with FTR.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's crazy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, I mean, clearly we're going to get agent christian against FTR at forbidden door.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we got what six weeks to get there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's when it's again, that that paper is happening.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So then we got the hundred thousand dollar four wave fight between Will and that girl, Chris that lander, Tecla and Queen Almanada.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So while I was vacationing today, I was cruising Bruce, blue sky, and I saw a plant storm posted.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What do people win when they win normal matches?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And of course, he got some replies.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I just responded.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I said, well, they're under contract.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So they just get their contract.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But this is like a paper view bonus.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he writes back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He says, you do realize I was joking, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, of course I do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I mean, the funny thing is, as I have expected, at some point, we're going to find out that Tony Khan actually does pay out these bonds.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I wouldn't be at all surprised if we found that at some point.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, you know, air fox all of a sudden, you know, found he's at extra hundred fifty k and his bank account for winning these goofy matches.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But did you also think we're not opposed it on Twitter when this passes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I did it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I forget, but it's one of the problems that she was going to win it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And she said she was making a hundred thousand dollar donation to support anti-ice like organizations or whatever.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then she proceeded to not win.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, which that was funny.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If she had a low in Tony, might have been on the hook for a hundred K.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If there if there were any if there were any lingering issues between Tecla and in Aminata, they seemed to really enjoy working with one another.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, there is a trope that they're getting into with these four ways.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if you've noticed it, but what ends up happening is the two biggest stars in the match end up fighting to the back, and then that leaves the other two to settle it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This has happened numerous times with both men and women, no to sit over the last month or so.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's something to keep an eye on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But so, as you could guess, what ended up happening was Willow and Kristallander fought to the back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we ended up in the ring with the Almanada and a Tecla.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then yeah, Sky Blue came to the ring, distracted Tecla.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Julia Hart shows up, misted Almanada.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Or sorry, I should say she distracted the ref.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Julia Hart came in blue misted Almanada.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Then Tecla hit a curb stump, got the win.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we've got

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[SPEAKER_00]: uh... this street this trio of uh... spooky babes teclas sky blue and julia heart and i should point out julia is back to her old look with the uh... top hat and whatever it is yeah for him to have and i find this is the house of hell again i find this group to be no buys to be what i know buys i just i don't want to get i think tecla being crazy

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[SPEAKER_01]: or whatever, I like that and I like her kind of on her own.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't think she needs a crew necessarily.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I certainly don't want her with no offense.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not the biggest guy blue fan in the world.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think Julia Hart still has potential, but she needs to, she needs to go somewhere to train.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sorry.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I was going to say that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was going to say it is weird.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Spooky gimmick is done with her, though.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's, we need to get past that and get her to something else now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The heart always wins.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, the, uh, it is weird how Sky Blue went from looking like Core J to not looking like Dakota Kai.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but maybe somebody's coming in.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Then we got at the Tony Storm speech, which we did talk about.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So the punch line of this whole day, Monet, Monet, her finishing off Monet, Luther's out injured.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Her tits are now pointing to the future and then that cute Athena to come on and she did her promo and she talked about she

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[SPEAKER_00]: that when she's done with Tony, she's going to be the wide hip to have further that no one cares about.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They also pointed at that mean that she was injured who had just won the RWH TV titles.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That titles cursed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so she says, no one's watching your back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And she says, London, Canada, or anywhere wherever I'm going to have it, you're imagining your murder or here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So here's the thing with this contract that Athena's got.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm not sure if it's clear.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Apparently Tony Kahn has said that people can take their title shot whenever they want it, which has traditionally meant a cation, and that's what happened last year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But people are now assuming that

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[SPEAKER_00]: Athena is actually going to call her shot and pick when she wants to face Tony.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Meanwhile, MJF is clearly already said.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He did a promo tonight.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I can't remember.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if we skipped it or if it's still to come, but he talked about how he is going to.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He said he could have, if Moxley had a one, he was just going to cash in right then, but he's going to wait to do it to hang that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So because he has something to prove with hangman is what he said.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So anyways,

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[SPEAKER_00]: uh, next week on Dynamite.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think this is the only match they announced, uh, Tony Storm is going to be a base Billy Stark's.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that is not going to be a good night for Tony or for Billy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I should.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't, I don't think it's going to be a long match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's going to be one of those where a thing that runs in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I hope they don't do a long match, but it's Tony.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So who knows?

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[SPEAKER_00]: It might, it might be like the Mercedes matches that they have with Billy a while ago.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, let's see.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let Billy get some reps and type of a thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Kip Sabian Nick and Shayna Wayne's breasts were coming next.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Come on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She said some stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I had a hard time concentrating on what she was saying, but the whole point of this was to take it to Nick who, you know, kind of really good promo.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, she basically actually said that these are her boys now, and Nick is her prodigy, her son, and our prodigy, she said.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then Nick says, this is a simple Christian, your past, your expiration date, your liability to us.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So when you took your own path to become the world champion,

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, used to get my face about all the titles you won and how many titles have I won?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it's not about how many titles I've won.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's how many I'm gonna win and I'm only twenty one years old.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm the youngest champion of the company's history.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So the question is how many titles will I win in the future?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Everyone is forced to view me as the face of TNT and a W now and forever.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought it was a really strong promo from Nick, but it was such a weird visual because you had Kip Sabin.

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[SPEAKER_00]: on the left, you had Nick in the center who is shorter than Kip, and then you had Shayna on the right, towering over both of them, and her breasts just patruding out in the screen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it was very distracting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sorry.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And she is very age-appropriate, so I'm cool with that too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Nick is like ten years older than my thirteen years older, younger than my son who's traveling with me right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Shayna got married in like, nineteen eighty five or eighty six.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But she's.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was trying to do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She's in her fifth piece.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it looks good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Looks good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So has her still has her fast ball.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's all I'm going to say.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's move on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, Don Callis came out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He did a promo for Ocata.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They didn't really say much.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Ocata, he's out in a new robe and a new theme.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they had advertised because you should go Cata in action.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I did not recognize the name of the, I didn't recognize the person.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He beat apparently his name was Rafael Quintero.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But Ocata just, it was a very quick squash, a big boot shop.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think a green maker.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think they ever mentioned the name of his opponent.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's how big of a watch this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't matter, but it's still one of those things that is noticeable given that they tend to like name everybody kind of a thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was assuming it was going to be Blake Christian when they said he's in action, but I guess that was a lot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: A lot of people not liking this new Ocata theme.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, well, I didn't really notice it to be honest with you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So this is when my internet was starting to get spotty.

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[SPEAKER_00]: In fact, it died during the Strickland promo.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I did manage to go back and well, there wasn't much for a promo.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He just came out and he said, well, Katta said, Swerv screwed his friends.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The young bucks called him a bitch.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Swerv came out and he said, yeah, I did that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What are you going to do about it, bitch?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Kalas said something to Katta and they took off and left him there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So clear that next match, probably it could have been door.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This was the look, sort of should have had as champion because he looked like money.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And something he's probably going to lose to a cutter.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I can't imagine he's going to beat a cutter.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's both was possible, but

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I think eventually we're going to get to heal swirv again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's my gut.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's telling me that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But, um, I don't know that for sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't, I'm not saying they're teasing it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just kind of how I feel.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Then we got the main event, which was the party match that you talked about.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So amazingly enough, um, hangman was in this match, teaming up with powerhouse hops and mark brisco against the death riders.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, by the way, that eight man earlier, that definitely was the all-star match because this was just a sick person.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And this is what you got to realize the eight mans are always all star matches.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The four way singles matches are always for money.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then these trials matches are just matches.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it was yeah, hangman, powerhouse Hobbs and Mark Briscoe against the death writers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We had a promo from Mark Briscoe.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if we skipped that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Again, or if it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We obviously skipped that in the MJF, but both were really good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, here we go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I did.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I missed it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was after the Copeland thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I do want to talk about this actually.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, maybe rewind button back a bit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We got to Briscoe Promo, where he said he set his sights on MJF and I'm backstage and if it walks and talks and acts like a bitch, it's a bitch.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He dodged me that whole gauntlet and the two things that I need to do was whip your ass to get that title shot, but thanks to MJF, I didn't get a copy of either.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought it was going to be done with you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But things are just getting started.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so essentially, you get the pressure that he's going to cost MJF, the managers, some point.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then like I said, we did have an MJF thing again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm, because I was in the fair, I wasn't taking notes and I am just thinking, but the MJF promo is interesting in that, at one point, MJF calls himself the best.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, you know, best in the world or I can remember exactly the phrase he used, but Bobby glared on him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I thought that was, it was kind of cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was understated.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Nobody called attention to it, but it was there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And, and if you saw it, you saw it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And if you didn't, well, you'll probably see it again at some point.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I did like that MJF interaction.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I thought the brisco problem was great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't, he wasn't maniacal like usually is he was serious.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he's promising he's going to hurt MJF at some point.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I do give nothing add.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

01:00:01.803 --> 01:00:01.923
[SPEAKER_00]: Nope.

01:00:02.283 --> 01:00:03.604
[SPEAKER_00]: So then we got the main event again.

01:00:04.364 --> 01:00:04.764
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, sorry.

01:00:05.164 --> 01:00:06.044
[SPEAKER_00]: Did I cut you off?

01:00:07.045 --> 01:00:07.165
[SPEAKER_00]: No.

01:00:07.525 --> 01:00:09.406
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm I'm I need to wrap this up.

01:00:10.946 --> 01:00:11.206
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

01:00:11.226 --> 01:00:11.366
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:00:11.386 --> 01:00:11.686
[SPEAKER_00]: Me too.

01:00:11.706 --> 01:00:11.946
[SPEAKER_00]: Me too.

01:00:12.026 --> 01:00:12.267
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

01:00:12.687 --> 01:00:14.607
[SPEAKER_00]: So I didn't see the main event.

01:00:14.767 --> 01:00:15.488
[SPEAKER_00]: So tell me what happened.

01:00:17.508 --> 01:00:20.129
[SPEAKER_01]: It was a kind of turn to remember.

01:00:20.169 --> 01:00:21.730
[SPEAKER_01]: It was a pretty good six man.

01:00:23.250 --> 01:00:25.431
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, Claudia gets his stuff in.

01:00:25.511 --> 01:00:26.972
[SPEAKER_01]: Habs gets his power stuff in.

01:00:30.821 --> 01:00:37.566
[SPEAKER_01]: briskos kind of your your baby face in peril, but I mean, it was you know, it was it was kind of a party match a bit.

01:00:37.626 --> 01:00:42.790
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought briskos looked really, really good in parts of this match, especially, you know, fighting from underneath.

01:00:46.232 --> 01:00:51.216
[SPEAKER_01]: I could read the result, but the whole thing was to lead up to Darby showing up after the match.

01:00:52.296 --> 01:00:54.018
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:00:54.898 --> 01:00:59.602
[SPEAKER_01]: At the arena and and it looks like he's going to be next for Moxley.

01:01:00.639 --> 01:01:04.100
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, but that's how that's how the match end is.

01:01:04.600 --> 01:01:08.561
[SPEAKER_01]: We see Darby and then Moxley gets distracting is hit with a buck shot.

01:01:10.101 --> 01:01:12.402
[SPEAKER_00]: He's about what's next for her for hangman.

01:01:14.122 --> 01:01:15.442
[SPEAKER_00]: No, okay.

01:01:15.682 --> 01:01:15.922
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

01:01:16.503 --> 01:01:19.803
[SPEAKER_00]: I kind of thought that's why this might be there, but I guess not.

01:01:21.664 --> 01:01:26.405
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think I think they're going to be more building the match than the feud.

01:01:27.342 --> 01:01:27.943
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

01:01:27.983 --> 01:01:30.505
[SPEAKER_00]: It feels like you're actually a baby face or something.

01:01:31.226 --> 01:01:34.749
[SPEAKER_00]: Reading the results, I almost get the sense they might even do a rematch.

01:01:35.430 --> 01:01:40.515
[SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, if you think they were leaning more towards Darby, then I'll take your word for it.

01:01:40.635 --> 01:01:41.696
[SPEAKER_00]: Like Darby mocks.

01:01:42.237 --> 01:01:47.262
[SPEAKER_00]: So maybe you do Darby mocks, and then mocks, he goes on vacation for a while because he probably has vacation coming.

01:01:48.119 --> 01:01:48.639
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:01:49.199 --> 01:01:49.520
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

01:01:50.020 --> 01:01:50.400
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah.

01:01:50.420 --> 01:01:55.622
[SPEAKER_00]: So hangman, powerhouse and brisco beat the death riders for the win.

01:01:55.702 --> 01:01:58.403
[SPEAKER_00]: Page, pin, casting, only after a book shot.

01:01:59.964 --> 01:02:12.309
[SPEAKER_00]: Collision, we'll hear from Dustin Rhodes, Rick Shannier, Fox, part, eighty five, Bendido, Jets, Need, and mascara derotic against Tetris, Sarah, Josh Alexander, Lance Archer and Rocky, you know, I feel like I've seen that match ten times.

01:02:13.110 --> 01:02:26.767
[SPEAKER_00]: Roosh is back against Katzurishabata, Tyavalkry and Alex Windsor, and Megan Bane versus Tymello with everyone banned from ringside, and that'll be Saturday, and then A.W.

01:02:26.787 --> 01:02:29.611
[SPEAKER_00]: Diamond next week, we just got Timeless Tony and Billy Starks.

01:02:30.632 --> 01:02:45.614
[SPEAKER_01]: So I have expect Ricochet or Rouge might be one of the first ones to challenge Hangman in terms of we could build up Ricochet being all over the place as being next man up and give you know, give Hangman easy win.

01:02:47.056 --> 01:02:50.058
[SPEAKER_01]: But Roosh versus Shabbata there, that's another member of the ops.

01:02:50.118 --> 01:02:58.583
[SPEAKER_01]: If he wins that match, they could be just building up, okay, these guys who have been taking the ops are going to eventually face hangman type of a thing, but we'll see.

01:02:58.763 --> 01:03:02.106
[SPEAKER_00]: Or could he set up LFI against the ops for the trio's titles?

01:03:02.846 --> 01:03:05.187
[SPEAKER_01]: That's more likely than what I was going to be doing.

01:03:05.207 --> 01:03:07.409
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and they'd be could trio's champions, actually.

01:03:07.749 --> 01:03:09.170
[SPEAKER_00]: Elefied's realistic on mortos.

01:03:09.950 --> 01:03:12.212
[SPEAKER_00]: Dave will be in heaven if mortos gets a belt.

01:03:14.893 --> 01:03:20.780
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, now that Dustin doesn't has one, the guy that deserves one is probably mortos in this.

01:03:22.183 --> 01:03:22.543
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:03:22.984 --> 01:03:23.304
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:03:23.824 --> 01:03:26.006
[SPEAKER_00]: And hey, he could, he could beat us in football.

01:03:26.366 --> 01:03:26.626
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

01:03:26.887 --> 01:03:29.669
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's do your plugs because yeah, we promised an hour.

01:03:29.749 --> 01:03:32.371
[SPEAKER_00]: And I want to thank you for staying up so late with me here.

01:03:32.551 --> 01:03:34.472
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, not, not, not a problem at all.

01:03:34.512 --> 01:03:35.133
[SPEAKER_01]: Shake them ropes.

01:03:35.213 --> 01:03:41.337
[SPEAKER_01]: We will record later this week on the Boisers wrestling podcasting super feed or our own feed this week.

01:03:41.738 --> 01:03:43.719
[SPEAKER_01]: All the wrestling ice cold takes.

01:03:45.180 --> 01:03:52.236
[SPEAKER_01]: A lot of this, whatever news comes up, and then for Vader Club, we'll have Vader versus Dustin Rhodes from Clash,

01:03:54.413 --> 01:03:55.214
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, awesome.

01:03:55.374 --> 01:03:56.415
[SPEAKER_00]: I remember that match.

01:03:57.135 --> 01:04:00.778
[SPEAKER_00]: Dustin, new TNT champion, wrestling Vader who is no longer.

01:04:00.918 --> 01:04:04.721
[SPEAKER_01]: That's, that's why I selected it was because I'm in honor of Dustin.

01:04:04.881 --> 01:04:05.081
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:04:05.682 --> 01:04:05.982
[SPEAKER_00]: Awesome.

01:04:06.162 --> 01:04:06.382
[SPEAKER_00]: Awesome.

01:04:06.422 --> 01:04:06.662
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

01:04:06.702 --> 01:04:07.383
[SPEAKER_00]: We'll look forward to that.

01:04:07.463 --> 01:04:10.665
[SPEAKER_00]: And for me, I will be back with Jeff next week.

01:04:11.186 --> 01:04:12.947
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe doing a show with Garrett on Monday.

01:04:13.087 --> 01:04:13.507
[SPEAKER_00]: Take down.

01:04:13.528 --> 01:04:17.030
[SPEAKER_00]: We'll see if I can catch up, which I probably won't.

01:04:18.291 --> 01:04:23.295
[SPEAKER_00]: So for Jeff Hawkins, I've been Paul Montaine and this has been the Dynamite show.

01:04:25.016 --> 01:04:25.444
[SPEAKER_00]: Bye!