G1 Climax Night One Reaction, Shota Umino Injury | Speaking of Strong Style
New Japan Pro Wrestling's G1 Climax is underway, and Steven Conway and Jeremy Finestone dive straight into the fallout from opening night. The two hosts finally crossed paths in person at the G1 Climax's Chicago show, and they bring that firsthand energy into a full breakdown of how the tournament kicked off — who impressed, who's already facing an uphill block, and what the results signal for the rest of the summer.
The conversation turns to Shota Umino's injury, digging into what it means for his tournament run and the bigger question hanging over the promotion: what is NJPW getting right in how it's handling the situation, and where is it falling short? Steven and Jeremy break down the fallout as the G1's biggest stretch approaches.
They close by looking ahead to the G1 Climax's return to Japan, previewing the shows that will define the tournament as the block stages heat up.
New Japan Pro Wrestling news, G1 Climax results, and the latest on Shota Umino's injury — all in this episode of Speaking of Strong Style.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The G1 climax tournament has begun.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Jeremy and I were on hand in Chicago for the very first night of block action.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We had some good matches during a broadcast that seemed very different live than what I saw later on in JPW World.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll talk about that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We also had an injury and a withdrawal for the second year in a row, unfortunately.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to go over the Chicago show, the first night of block action.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We also had a little bit of a fight game media meet up that took place there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll take a look at what's coming up this weekend in Hokkaido.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's plenty to do here as we get into G1 season, which Jeremy Feinstein, I'm Stephen Conway.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is Speaking of Strong Style.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Welcome, everyone, to Speaking of Strong Style.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're from Contributes of the Fight Game Media Network.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm Stephen, he's Jeremy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We had a busy, busy, busy, busy, busy and weak, they involved travel back and forth to Chicago, seeing the show live.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And Jeremy and I have now officially after 200, 20 some episodes met in person.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We embraced as friends and then watched a show together.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We then briefly discussed the show,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Still kind of kept it to ourselves because we still haven't showed it to you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know, yeah, we did it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We were very careful about that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've mentioned many times.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The Jeremy and I try not to talk too much about the subject.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We go over the subjects.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We know what we're going to talk about.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Sometimes it's obvious like this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Sure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But we know the topics.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We try not to get into our thoughts on them too much because we want to keep it fresh for here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it almost bled over into that show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We were sitting next to each other and Chris Samsa.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Sportapro wrestling dot com Chris and so it was very nice and was really cool to meet him in person as well and he put together a little a sweet for us sit in and there were a whole bunch of us a whole bunch of us from the new Japan community and you know we set next to each other and barely spoke about the show while it was going on in the world cup at the same time, so I didn't want to bother you
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[SPEAKER_00]: I had my phone on the World Cup because that was all going on at the same time, but now we pretty much kept a lot of our thoughts for ourselves other than nice good move.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, good shot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I've never conversation we had had nothing to do with wrestling.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There was just kind of like life stuff and that's true.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And just kind of
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[SPEAKER_01]: just kind of whatever.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And there may have been a match or two where the match was in the background, while we were engaging in pleasantries with other people.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There were a lot of people, man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Getting into it, you got their own Saturday.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And basically,
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[SPEAKER_01]: bad time for the show not getting into other than detail.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You were there for the show and that was about all you were able to take time for.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I got there on Friday and I had to work on Friday so I couldn't go down until the day.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was a little tight schedule.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, you know, this was all like you're ending your out kind of weekend.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This was not like we're gonna we're gonna make a four day journey out of this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I got there on Friday and I got
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[SPEAKER_01]: and to my mistake, all of the New Japan meat and Greek stuff will get over here, which is on the other side of Chicago, and not exactly easy to get to at least an hour, like we're on Friday afternoon traffic, get there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, Harris, where are the New Japan meat and Greek and all that stuff will happen?
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, I immediately just ruled that out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I got my rental car, a four-clock, went to the hotel,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Damon McDonald, the SuperJacast, graciously invited all the other podcasters to the SuperJacast meetup at the height away, which was off to the side.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, I said, what, you know, I met Joel from the SuperJacast, and I should meet Damon, and so I went over there,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Happy to just have me there and then all the other people started come around fan to the show fan to their show sorry.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then guys like sweet William John Blake and John from wrestling on the cause say a few others that I am so sorry that I did not get a chance to remember all these people but
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[SPEAKER_01]: great great crowd at the hideaway, and then I had a terrible night of sleep, had nothing to do on Saturday morning.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I went to the mall, I just got bored and I went to the mall, and I found myself a comic book store that just opened that day with information that everything that stores 20% off, and I was like, yeah, shit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You guys need 20% off because I sleep spot where I'm going to allow myself to buy a few things that I shouldn't tell my wife about and that's exactly what happened and she still doesn't know about them, but she knows that I had a good time and so yeah, we then went to Sam says barbecue.
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[SPEAKER_01]: where I actually got a chance to meet BAM and Mel, the power bomb show for the first time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Sam's sister Nikki Mel has been bald.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I met Chris Sam sent for the first time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We got to share the bro and brace and just, you know, it's best to plug and treat and finally getting to meet each other.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's Sam, so he's not bad for a white sex fan.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, he opened his house up to everybody and said, God, he must have fed like 50 people with bread of food and nothing left in everybody of full.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I, he gets a week's pot of food.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And basically he just had to pile up all the food and throw it away.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, man, click, you've done this before.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So after that, I took off there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I went to the, the, now arena.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I hung out in the bar seat area of the suite because let me tell you, sitting at a bar seat with a counter and watching that watch that show.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's the way to do it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was pretty sweet.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and that's when I got there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I ended up going to my hotel when I landed also going on very, very, very little sleep less than two hours.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was a zombie when I got to Chicago and get to my hotel and and took a little nap right there and then felt like a human being enough to get down to the arena.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was it was a day.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was a day.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's where I met you there, met up with you there, met in the sweet and then also Sam Mel and the gang, Mickey.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's where I met Chris officially for the first time, although he and I had been texting back and forth for a couple of days about how we were going to make everything work.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it was great.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was really nice.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And the sweet was a terrific vantage point.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And everyone was, everyone was having fun.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Everyone was in a good mood.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They were positive vibes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, nobody.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, nobody.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now it was the great thing is that we were all like there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Everybody loved New Japan.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Nobody had an air of arrogance that they were like better than anybody else or anything like that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was just, we were all just there to have a good time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and it was, it's very similar to that by-by-head at Russell Kingdom where you're just among your tribe.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And everybody's happy to be there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you're right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's also interesting that
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[SPEAKER_00]: what's that, what's a called a parasocial relationship in that you feel like you already know everybody in a way, too, because you've listened to their shows or you've watched their shows.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Just a familiarity factor.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I like when seeing Sam and Mel and even Nicky in person, you know, Nicky's not usually on camera, but I feel like I knew Nicky because we've been, she's such a part of Power Boutchels and then part in this show, too, and all that, so
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[SPEAKER_00]: It felt very familiar even though you were meeting a lot of people for the same time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And of course, we've had Chris on a bunch of times and we'll have him a bunch more in the future on the show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so that felt very familiar as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But it was really good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was really good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You were making that after the show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I did.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That was really cool.
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[SPEAKER_00]: A couple of times.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, a couple of people came up and said they were looking forward to this show, talking about the review show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I heard some very nice things from people.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it was great.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I love it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was very nice.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was very, people were very kind and sets a very nice things.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it was good to meet guys.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was good to meet people out there and enjoyed it thoroughly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that was, that was a little fun moment.
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[SPEAKER_01]: the nicest thing anyone said to me all weekend is that I looked like Rotterdam strong and I was like I can't even begin to imagine how I look like Rotterdam strong but he is handsome so I will take that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I told him like I usually get Kevin Owens in a lot of other Kevin Owens thing going on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I mix up Rotterdam strong Kevin Owens all the time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it makes sense.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I like just brown hair.
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[SPEAKER_01]: guys.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Guys, the the different kind of thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's about it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's about it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So a lot of fun on the suite right there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've got to get to a couple of comments.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Brad is here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Brad, I'm going to say that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: As says I knew, I felt the universe shift on Saturday.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was like it was trying to implode upon itself.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the fun game media thing was interesting to have us all on the one suite there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That may have posted the picture in the discord.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know for sure, but if not, I will.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and Jeremy or us here, and we're going to get to your questions, Jeremy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I promise both of them because I have thoughts on each of your questions, so we're going to get there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll really pod us here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hi.
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[SPEAKER_01]: How you doing?
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're one guy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, Larry.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There are one guy that commented on our Facebook page last week.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I wanted to get to it now that we will be talking about this at some point.
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[SPEAKER_01]: in the show to Umano conversation.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I just kind of wanted to mention that since we were had the comments here or there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I, you know, I had a kind of conversation on the Facebook page.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so he came in a little hot, which people are passionate about their guys, and I totally understand that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then when we get to show to Umano and everybody, I promise you, it was
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was eye opening this past weekend to talk to how many people believed showed a woman I was going to win this whole thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I was legitimately surprised because I I had a different interpretation and I think this is part of the conversation that we're going to have with the comment that we have later today.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to get to that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just wanted that individual who's looking to know that we are going to we're going to get to that at some point and that not to feel like you're you're going an hour and we're just going to boy off.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, we won't do that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a yeah, there are a lot of interesting things of course came out of that show the the results results were shocking there were some really good matches and
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[SPEAKER_00]: There is a big disconnect though, Jeremy, to me, between the perception of the show from people who watched it on NJPW world and the people that were there alive.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my God.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was to my point a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It goes to my point a little bit in that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But when I mentioned that the Show to Umano's Zach Saber Jr. main event wasn't the greatest match of all time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: From Russell Kingdom a couple of years ago, the one I attended, by no means the greatest match of all time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: To be fair, yeah, it was probably about 15 minutes too long.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I agree with all that stuff.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But why it was a pretty good match?
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was a good match life and then I heard all this about how dull it was and how it just didn't work and all this I'm like, wow, I maybe it was just my enthusiasm for being at a rest of kingdom in person, maybe I was just so into the show that anything would have worked for me, maybe maybe right this show in Chicago was fantastic live and when I went back and watched it on NJPW world, I get people thought it was a little flat the production.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We are used to New Japan in the United States being a poor production.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're used to that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The lighting is very rarely good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't bad in Chicago though.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The sound is always an absolute nightmare.
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[SPEAKER_00]: NJPW in the United States Jeremy, as I'm watching this show, remembering how it felt in the building, how alive it felt, how into everything everyone was.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The production on NJPW world, it's like they put the microphone in the building next door.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It always sounds like there's something exciting happening next door on NJPW world from the United States.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Doesn't it?
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[SPEAKER_00]: The sound never sounds like it's on top of you, like it is in real life.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And like it isn't Japan.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They do a much better job in Japan.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I see why people feel like it was flat.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Go ahead.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, the best way to put it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: for three hours and 15 minutes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you have this video that's playing this entire time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's supposed to be HD, but it's in quite weak HD.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But if you're playing through all the outside elements that you have no control over, no awareness of, are affecting the sound and the video of the thing that you're trying to watch for a finite period of time as you reach your destination, this is what watching this show on New Japan World was like, is that
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[SPEAKER_01]: For no reason whatsoever, the cow would fade in and out, or pop, or just keep convalues, or like you were underwater, or like you were in the altitude, it would have been so hard.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's why I say that it almost sounds like...
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, something is happening next door that sounds really exciting, you know, and if you're next to a building or if you go to him, if you go to a cheap movie theater and there's some big special effects extravaganza going on in the theater next to you, you can hear all that sometimes, like the the the muffled version of it, you know, we're always getting the muffled version of it here, and this is something the Larry mentions here from really early part of going to get to it here he said one thing struck me seeing the show live he was their live as well was that the sound is terrible in that building.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So a lot of the action in the ring, I didn't feel like I did when I saw it at Simo Hall.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a very different atmosphere, and you're right, I don't disagree with that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I felt the crowd was very alive and very into things there in Chicago, and that's a Chicago crowd.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, there's a reason the Chicago was one of the great wrestling cities in the history of this industry.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's because the people there are into stuff and they react loud and they are enthusiastic.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And of course, that's a traveling crowd too that we're happy to be at a New Japan show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: but it's fair that that is a basketball and hockey arena.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what that thing is made for, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now we're used to that in the United States and people usually know how to mic those things, not this group, but some will haul on the other hand.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's made for everything to be
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[SPEAKER_00]: drawn toward this square in the middle.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, there's no ropes, there's no ring, you know, it's the dojo.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a big lump of clay, essentially, for sumo.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But a wrestling ring fits very nicely in that space where the dojo is for sumo, and the entire building is made for the sound to go down right at that spot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, it does.
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[SPEAKER_00]: create differences in the way sound travels throughout a building.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And Sumo Hall's great for wrestling.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's why I think that Arthur Ashdating, when AEW goes there, it's great because it's a tennis court.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And if you think of how tennis is, like a ring, it's very neatly inside a tennis court.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So there are a lot of factors to go into this stuff, but the bottom line is German.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They just don't mic it well at all.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It always feels like like a spar away.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So my personal observation was this, we were in the suite and so we were at the top of the lower level ball right and what we can see was the entire lower ball.
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[SPEAKER_01]: we can see the two sections that were completely full and scattered people all like enveloped around them and then the rimside area being completely surrounded with that was not a huge crowd.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was not huge, but I could feel the excitement from the people that were there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, they're got a moment where I actually did feel like the chills on my arm, both in the beginning and a couple of the matches, just from the electricity of the crowd popping from a near fall or whatever it was.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The thief that Sam's a provided for us were the perfect burns I've you for not only watching the wrestling, but for understanding and seeing how the crowd was reacting to this stuff and exactly what they were getting behind and don't get me wrong, I was getting behind all this stuff too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But you, but there is just something about like sitting up
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[SPEAKER_01]: away from the majority of the crowd and then feeling the energy and the Russian the wind when they all popped at the same time because because it was so empty between them and us, it just came right like whatever that problem, like you just felt the vibration and the energy of the Sam.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was it was really like taking in a lot of ways.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The folks here asking like how did it come across on the NJPW world that's from Larry who was there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And Brad Brad got it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He said the sound was bad.
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[SPEAKER_00]: At times the music the music was muffled.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I could barely hear.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I went back and watched it obviously because I wanted to take some more thorough notes and I just wanted to see the differences and he said the commentary was loud sometimes in the music was muffled.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Then there was sometimes when you couldn't hear a walker and Chris.
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[SPEAKER_00]: hardly at all over the mix the mix was poor and sometimes they were muffled in the music was kind of loud they never really got it right at the same at the same time and they were constantly tweaking to fit whatever problem had just happened.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah you know and sometimes it's better not hearing walker at all in the first place but still like when he's it's true he struggled again but it was very muffled the times and the music especially there were times when you really
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[SPEAKER_00]: period.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was just like, it was, it almost sounded like it was the ambient music in the building that plays during a break.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like there was no emphasis on it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Production's just weak folks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what to do, especially if you're interested to what we see from the crew of Japan, we're a lot of times in those big moments they come through with some great camera angle and the sound is good and you're in the middle of everything that most of the fact we want to do Japan strong paper view you expect to get the quality of of one of the recent like.
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[SPEAKER_01]: bad on D.C. or whatever, like all of those shows, you know, like New Japan writing, all of this stuff.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Any of these shows that they did on paperview for like $20 over the last two years, and that same quality.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The only thing that you can say on this one is that you didn't have to pay an extra money, but the downside is that one of the biggest shows of the year being the G1, you know, opening.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you're damn if you're doing your damn if you don't.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But it's just they have not managed to figure out how to make their production hum in the United States and it is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just not good like I like I hope they I hope they figured out I hope I hope that whatever infrastructure they have with.
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[SPEAKER_01]: like TV Sahi and Cyber Agent moving forward actually this becomes one of the biggest points of like improvement in their infrastructure that they need to go with is making sure that when they're broadcasting outside Japan that the quality matches what they're broadcasting from Japan.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and yeah, that's exactly right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's just it is frustrating because live if they have been able to capture the feeling in that building
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[SPEAKER_01]: It'd be an old time for show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Is a hell of a show life.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hell of a show life.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I heard I heard people in the sweet saying, this is the best live New Japan show I've seen.
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[SPEAKER_00]: People that have been to Japan.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, there were a couple of people that said that best live show I've seen from them from New Japan and from people in a travel and it was a great line of experience.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was by far a better live experience and it was watching on TV, the energy, the crowd, that merch light before the show started.
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[SPEAKER_01]: within that a break and then another maze pattern.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And by the second match, the entire mercenary was empty and I was able to walk up in my shirt two minutes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, you were smart.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You went between matches and there and got it in quickly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I breast is a wedding guy said such a great time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Thanks, Brad.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We really did.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And Larry mentions by the way he did by a shirt there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he asked him if they were doing US or Japanese sizes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They told him US, but they were wrong.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He says, I got to go on
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you do not get an extra large.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you're a big guy, at, uh, at nature, you get double that's how you hope and you hope and you pray.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, and you, Washington cold water, not hot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was like, oh, absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you, uh, you get your hands in there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You just kind of stretch it out on the side, you know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Otherwise you're buying a sausage casing more than you are a t-shirt.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I also a little bit of weight lately and so I was able to fit into that new Japan jacket that I bought in Japan that did not look so great when I was in Japan, but I was like, I'm going to lose some weight and then I did and I worked to this show and it worked and I was like, so Brad, I'm wearing it there with you buddy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: One more before we move on to this show, just want to say props, of course, again, it's really fun to see power bombshells in person to say, and I'll make you and all that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Sam and Nikki very well, Jeremy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if you saw they went to portillos for their hot dogs.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They went to loom all moddies for their pizza.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They had the Chicago experience very well done on their, on their end.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Larry said that his shirt was a double XL and should have done just that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he said your jacket looked awesome, Jeremy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was the, it was the 20, 20 cents New Japan Tratsuit jacket and I will really stop.
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[SPEAKER_00]: War hero says, maybe next year, all A block in the USA and B in the UK in the semi-finals in the finals in the finals back in Japan, but that was basically it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, well, I again, I recommend, look, as much fun as I had, get your house order in Japan and then worry about coming back to the states right there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, with that in mind, let's talk about this show because a lot of news came out of it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: In fact, if you guys out of this, if you're part of this as we, as we had it,
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's already happened.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's all done and dusted.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The show to Umano has been forced to withdraw from this tournament.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll get to that when we talk about his match.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What going on?
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, and of course, Gabe Kidd unable to attend this one because Visa issues, so his opening night, quote unquote matches Saturday and Hokkaido and what to get into here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But it started off.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We had, they said, 4133 were in attendance.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Optimistic, I think it probably was less than that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's a little bit of a progress and reported 3900, the day be like around the time of the day on the had distributed distributed right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that had a couple of 100 walk up on the last possible I was at that higher end of what I thought was likely.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I would set the actual over under around 3500 maybe, like 3,500 would be, that's probably what I think is actually there in the building that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But it's a 10,000 cedar and they didn't use the upper bowl and they part of it was cut off.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I kind of tend to think that Newspand doesn't fuck around with their 10 to 10 numbers.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh no, they do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, if you've seen some of the,
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you've seen some of the numbers, they report for wrestle kingdoms in the dome and then watch the dome matches.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's not, they play around with it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They play around with it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They play around.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They play around.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, everybody does it's wrestling promoters folks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're said that there's a little bit of a carney, you a little bit of a carney and all of them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, so the night opened with the slower knocker.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They decided to give us a nice hard hitting match right out of the blocks of the very first.
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[SPEAKER_00]: G1 climax 36 match was Aaron Wolfe against Henry.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And a lot of fun.
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[SPEAKER_00]: People were amped up for this one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I only went nine minutes, but it was a good striking battle.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I enjoyed it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Aaron Wolfe is not a technician,
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[SPEAKER_00]: And Hanoi is good at matches like this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Just two guys hit each other hard.
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[SPEAKER_00]: In fact, they were meat chance during this year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: At the beginning.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, Wolf ended up winning the battle.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He hit an angle slam and then a reverse angle slam with Hanoi facing the other way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So he doesn't take the bump on his back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He takes it on his chest and all that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Good match.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Wolf, I think, did a good job.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's does not have the most, but does not have the largest move set yet, but he is improving.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And overall, I think that they're heavily invested in him, as I've mentioned before, and he's off with two points.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think, an RA was a good first G1 opponent for him to
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[SPEAKER_00]: Emphasize his power and toughness, which Hinarry will bring out your toughness, which is because the way Hinarry works.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I thought it was an intelligent matchup for him and a good performance.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I got a really good feeling about Aaron Wolfe in this tournament, just based off of both the reaction of the crowd when he came out and that like the new gear, like the Jean Jack, the sleeveless Jean Jacket with the fur line hoodie was just felt right for him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he came out and he didn't feel like a young lion.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He came out and he felt like he was still green.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I felt like he understood what his own like character and personality was in the match.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And there were glimmers of that personality really starting to show through whereas in a couple of the other matches with house torture, it was basically just like get be down, get be down, make it come back, put the hands up, that kind of thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This one just felt a little bit more like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to show the way that I strong style against this other guy knowing that no one can come out, there isn't going to be any interference, this is just me and him and I'm going to do my best to win this match.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so, you know, it was kind of one of those.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The Hinarry running the ropes and Wolf doing the double handed like block of the wary at a couple of times and just one of these like he had his own style to defend these things and it just felt like.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We were seeing the beginning of a of a guy who's going to be very, very important and I don't really know if you're going to be important like important important.
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[SPEAKER_01]: come rental kingdom, or if he's just going to be important.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But the way that they, I just feel like he's being presented is don't sleep on it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Whereas in RA,
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[SPEAKER_01]: That dude just gives his entire body to every match.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And at this point, he got three titles.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's got the never tag.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's got the never six band titles.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's got the tag team titles.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he's got a new zeal and world championship title.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's coming out there and he's given it as a all.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he's doing everything in his power to make sure that Aaron Wolf does not say it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just nice to see that we just have a company and a bunch of workers that understand the Golden Goose and are willing to prop them up rather than try and tear them down.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's a very awesome and he was a good first opponent for wolf.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that was the first match there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll fall off to the races with two points.
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[SPEAKER_00]: After that, we had Shingo Takagi and Jake Lee, interesting matchup, you know?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if you've known for the moment I saw it announced.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The same way it happened the first time, which was mentioned in the post-match comments, by the way, we got more out of Jake than we usually do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Shingo, of course, carried it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, I like Jake more than most people.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I like this match, more than most people like this match.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You're not wrong if you didn't care for it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What's that going to happen?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I had to go buy a t-shirt during this match.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I just wanted to get that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's the one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's when you ducked out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You aren't wrong if you didn't care for this match.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And Jake is in the choir taste.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've acquired it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Not everyone has.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Schingo lost to him two years ago as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So they like to use Schingo to kind of get Jake over.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And Schingo knows how to get something from him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was definitely more shingle to cocky than it was, Jake Lee, but Jake ended up winning it with a big boot in the corner.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Might be one of the better matches that Jake has in the tournament just because of Schingo's work ethic and his abilities.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was fine.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He did the joke or make up again.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He did the Pennywise walk.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I understand from what I hear that that,
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[SPEAKER_00]: buzzer walker struggle to figure out what that was until I guess Chris pointed it out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And afterwards, Jake dance his way through the crowd and out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we seem to get a lot of energy from Jake Lee in this match.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he seemed excited to be there and spoke a little bit of English pretty well, by the way, is English as I held a lot better in my Japanese in the post-match comments.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think Jake was excited about the match happy to be there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I did rewatch this match on TV and my wife ended up being in the room while I was watching it and a little known fact about me Steven.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't like clowns.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I do not like clowns at all.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so she looked at like silver you afraid of him when you have been like, no, it's about 400 feet away.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I thought I got pretty safe, you're like, but I don't like it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't like that you were at the clown makeup.
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[SPEAKER_01]: professionally, I can get past him personally.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, not not a big fan of this clown makeup.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Pennywise, the Joker, all that stuff.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, not for me, my friend.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But, uh, this whole clown thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She has given me a hard time for that one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I love her for it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But, uh,
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[SPEAKER_01]: The spatula is exactly what you thought it was going to be.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Shingo is going to happen with the mattress.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you ate what you're going to have to with the mattress, the might of well have them do their win logs and get each other.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Shingo doesn't look diminished by losing against a guy that, you know, a foot and a half taller than him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, you just, when you lose against a author and you losing against you, you need matches, sometimes your numbers up against a guy bigger than you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's kind of how it look at it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's how they use bad luck, FLA for a long time, by the way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He'd be guys.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He would not normally beat in singles matches in the G1.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a FLA average 10 points in the G1 for most of his run in New Japan.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That he won a lot of G1 matches.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it was that same principle.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's an opportunity for guys to lose matches in against a believable,
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[SPEAKER_00]: guy because of the size difference.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's it's believable that he might get a victory over someone.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He might not normally beat and it's a way to deprive someone of the two points they may need later for storytelling reasons.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And Champa's arching, oh, my get a win back again to Jake Lee in a random match.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And like three months, just matter.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The next one, Oscar and Rennet and Rita.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So this one was rough, probably the worst match of the night.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Ren worked Oscars these the same way you'd wrote it, and it's Ren's show.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, shock.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Look, Oscar is going to have it when worked over for the entire tournament.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's not as bad as a lot of rent matches because Oscar has charisma and ability, but it wasn't it wasn't good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's not Oscar's fault by any means.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just a rent is a poor wrestler and very lazy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he was here too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, no, it's true.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oscar ended up winning with a sleeper referee stopped it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was nine minutes and 42 seconds.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oscar's on to bigger and better things.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Render Rita had new gear.
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[SPEAKER_01]: was not coming out into T-shirt, which I wanted for a little while, I said that for a few years.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but like a lot of people were premiering a new look tonight, and I just felt like that was somewhat synchronized with that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Whereas all you're got the music,
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[SPEAKER_01]: She got the new gear.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He got the glam up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And frankly, if you were looking at two guys and wondering which guy came from a faction called the House of Torture, I kind of would have called on the time from the House of Torture.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You've got like that European castle and the lightning and the spooky music and he come look out and he's like covered with a mask over his face and
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[SPEAKER_01]: You look like you might torture some people for science, my bad, not going to lie.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He has had a scene with Vincent Price somewhere in a former life.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you're not wrong.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The match was whatever.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They did the House of Torture Attacks, the wig,
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[SPEAKER_01]: author has to bow her through, power up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Finally, like, Ren can't get away.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He gets the wife choked out of them and he's not even like alive enough to tap out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And tell you should book it for the guys first night on the G1 for both of you guys.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so it made on a bad much, but it was the right way to do it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It does one of the thing for storytelling purposes, Jeremy, as it tells the house of torture story that without the outside interference, because of course New Japan didn't fly over the entire house to torture the only brought the guys out of the car, that he can't win one on one, which is the correct story for house torture.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And for heels in general, the theory of pro wrestling is that in a fair fight, baby faces would beat the heels, the vast majority of the time, but the heels cheat, because the heels, right then.
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[SPEAKER_00]: For Naredo lose this one, it was a good spot for it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was Oscars G1 debut.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So he gets to go over and look like a threat.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You can always have the excuse that Naredo didn't have his boys with him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And again, similar to the last match for Shango, nobody comes out of this hurt.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just, again, my issue with Naredo is that I just don't think you works hard.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Even in the G1.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, after that, we had the other half of the former tag team champions, Utah ice, the other knockout brother, and he was facing great O'Con, who is, of course, one half of the current IWGP tag team champions.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So these two have worked together before, and this match was was not bad.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, this ice is so over by the people just love that guy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And mentioned earlier that Larry said that the section he was in love, Jake Lee, too, people were all over that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But this was a striking battle that I felt ice did the best and he could to make it work and I thought it did.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There was a huge pop for him kicking out of the railgun.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean a lot of people thought that was it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That grey icon was going to beat him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But he kicked out a railgun, he ended up hitting the running knee, the cruella knee,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Not great, but it'll work, and once again, telling the story that the knockout brothers are knocking on the doorstep of the knockout on the doorstep, knocking on the doorstep, on the doorstep, and knocking on the door of the World Tag Team Champion's Great O'Con and Henara, Udois, beating one-half of the tag team champs here in Chicago, and getting a big pop, and again, the right move, his debut in front of a crowd that loved him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This was the time for the good guys to win.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Holy crap, you don't want to go for it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You'll love me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I will say I was holy, holy, unsurprised when that music and that titan shrawn or whatever you want to call it, said, let's get high and then we immediately smell the loft of marijuana all over the place.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like people took that and said, I'm like, yeah, I'm just talking to them, let's go.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That was some fixed stuff, too, boy, that was really good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was a little bit, it was some scum-key stuff, I need to have dog after that, I had to eat some.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, I certainly wish that they would have passed it my way, I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm
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[SPEAKER_01]: The job by Great O'Con to really be a climbing heel and avoid you know ice in this match.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like people wanted to see you know I fight and Great O'Con did not want to like give the fans that fight.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so a lot of this match was
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[SPEAKER_01]: teasing the crowd, teasing the crowd, teasing the crowd, teasing the crowd, getting that pop, teasing the crowd, teasing the crowd, getting that pop.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And when he got to that dominator finish, and you know, ice kicked out and con could not believe it, this crowd knew he was winning that match.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then he went on and won that match.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And the crowd, it was one of the biggest parks of the night.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like they wanted to see you, no, why?
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[SPEAKER_01]: They wanted to see you, you know, ice.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They wanted to see you, you know, ice, win.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And they wanted to see you, you know, ice.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And they got all of it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And Great O'Con, could've told you, did what you needed to do to get that guy over.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Can we mention a little bit of the New Japan bravery in the way of these matches were ordered because four matches in a row, one with Jake Lee, not everybody cares for, one with Ren Narita, then one with Great O'Con, and then they did manage to slip in.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They didn't have the guts to put
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[SPEAKER_00]: They slipped in Zach and showed it in there in the middle there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought for a while, they were just going to do the four guys in this tournament that people think are very good and just line them up all in a row, but they didn't do a lot of knock-and-out to no one complaint about it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, because the next match was that we had a little bit of a break from one guy carrying another guy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We had show to Omenoh and Zach's average winner.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, this match was terrific, but unfortunately it did
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[SPEAKER_00]: We mentioned this is a rematch for wrestling from 2025.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That was the show I attended in person.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This was a real struggle.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And these two, and I don't mean that as a struggle in a good way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And the way that the match was worked, it was an exciting battle between two guys who,
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[SPEAKER_00]: In storyline, no each other well are inextricably linked.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And no each other's counters and holes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, the, of course, Zach trying to turn Shota into an unwilling pretzel Shota powering through things and hitting big moves and high impact stuff on Zach.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I really enjoyed this Jeremy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They gave them a little bit of time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: At this one went 16 minutes and 10 seconds.
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[SPEAKER_00]: At that point, it was by
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[SPEAKER_00]: On about five minutes, the longest match of the night up to that point.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, in the end though, Zach hit a pair of Zach drivers who mentioned that showed his story for us was gay kid in this tournament.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We think we feel strongly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All the stuff about people who thought showed it was winning the tournament surprise us not because we think showed it, uminno isn't good or not because we think that showed it, uminno isn't talented or isn't deserving of a G one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's not it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We were just getting buried.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's not getting buried in the G one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Are our issues with what we think you're getting buried by is completely independent of that?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so we thought that his story in this G1 was Gid Kid and that feud with the death writers.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we didn't think he was going to win.
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[SPEAKER_00]: In fact, I figured he was going to lose this match with Zach, I thought.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he did, unfortunately, somewhere in there he was concussed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it was serious enough that he didn't even attempt.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I guess we don't know that, do we?
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[SPEAKER_01]: But we did not have made very quickly that he would not continue the remainder of this tournament.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he was not in post-mash comments.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if he tried to do post-mash comments and couldn't, or they decided not to show it, but he was not part of the post-mash comments package and showed us almost always in post-mash comments.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So he's the reality, they had a week between shows.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And on one, two-day or one day,
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what, the train happened and he's not going to be doing it and we're moving on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, and it was, so they're not replacing all of his matches will be four fits from here on out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So similar to what happened to Gabe Kid, when he was injured during the deketched a match last year, and then four fitted out the rest of the tournament.
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[SPEAKER_00]: First training and same thing happened in night toe years ago.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you remember, Nighto heard his knee in this first
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[SPEAKER_00]: All three of those times, by the way, that had to have screwed up the booking Royalee, because I can't imagine they should, they have to distribute these points differently now, because no doubt showed it would have scored a few of them in this tournament.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's easier with it being the first night.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, oh yeah, for sure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And,
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[SPEAKER_00]: They can adjust and they had a week to think things over, too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's nice.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not like they had to show the next day.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They had to figure out this out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So they did decide to pull him out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't see Jeremy, even on the replay exactly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It may have been on one of the drivers.
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[SPEAKER_00]: One of them looked pretty stiff, but I feel like Zack knows how to do his act driver's stiff without hurting anybody.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm certainly not blaming Zack.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't even know if that's where it was.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just didn't see a whole lot of places where he could get a concussion, but of course,
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[SPEAKER_00]: The more we learn about head injuries, the more we learn to buy concussions, it doesn't have to be one huge blow to the head to do it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It could be something that looks fairly benign that but rattles your brain a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And whatever it was, I can't say it was anything 100% obvious where I said, oh, there it is right there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, but it was serious.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, serious enough that they decided that it's safer not to have him continue.
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[SPEAKER_00]: bummer because I'm sure that his match with Gabe Kid was going to be one of the key matches for a lot of reasons because we are of the opinion that showed his story for the rest of this year was him overcoming the death writers, early trying to Gabe Kid, maybe even John Moxley down the road, he already wrestled puck.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We thought that he was going to spend the second half of this year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: battling his demons, so to speak.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And maybe even taking that to wrestle kingdom with a stipulation match against kid or against moxley if they can get him, that's what we are supposing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They can still get to that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There are months ahead.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There are months to go.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So you, they can get the ship back on course.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But it's a big blow, not to have him in the G1.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Showed up that kind of great match.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's just get that out of the way for me first.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I have zero issues with it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was delighted during the entire match.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Everything all the way to the finish was like, yep, that worked for me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I gave Josh from keeping a strong style to high fives.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I've for watched that match, where it was just like, showed a delivered.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And there was part of that contingent that watched that match or like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's the kind, that's the performance that like make us believe that this guy was going to go all the way in this tournament and I'm watching this like I'm watching the people like the the smartest people in the podcast and sphere for New Japan all believed that Shota is going to win it if you looked at like the sport of pro wrestling.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There is a large consensus that we that either showed it or you were going to win this tournament.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I study the book here of Journey by Joseph Campbell a lot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not great for non-white storytelling.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's pretty anglo.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's, yeah, I'm sure we've got it at the doorstep, but there is still a sense of the hero's journey of an obstacle put in their way, and they must conquer that obstacle before they can accomplish anything else.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Otherwise, they will always be held by, backed by that obstacle, regardless of what their other successes are.
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[SPEAKER_01]: have been obstacle of redeeming the the walks to Gabe Kid over the global title.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Having the title for one defense against the guy that you wasn't originally supposed to have the defense against and then losing it to Gabe Kid did not equate for me feeling that this guy was
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to go into what this, what our looks just do right now, actually, because we're, we're all on the topic of show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, let's get that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then we're going to get to Jeremy or his questions.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He has some good ones too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we had a listener.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, the name is Trident.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he, uh, first off, he, uh, he's going to be listening to us for four years.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you very much for that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then he started to honestly wonder why, which arch, but we're going to get into this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He wrote, did he ever hurt you that the reason you can't put just push showed us some super dominant force like a nokey, muto, or a goddess, specifically because the last time they started pushing him as a top guy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Fans almost unanimously rejected him, complaints about him in 2024 were the good guy I couldn't ready.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I wish he'd stopped being shoved down our throats.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now in 2025, because man showed a deserves about so much better why won't New Japan give him a proper push.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That itself is evidence of how effectively New Japan if turn is booking around.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If it's actually winning all of the matches over the last 18 years, you guys wanted him to win, fans would have turned him all over again.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What you guys all view is Shota Failure who really just him finally getting the proper booking that he should have received before that restricting the main event.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Since you're not yet reaching that top height of the company, but he's intermittently getting there as evidenced by him getting from G1, New Japan Cup records and recently even getting a brief global title rate.
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[SPEAKER_01]: New shrines still want to build him to a top guy, but they have really been cautioned because fans are so primed to reject him for being overpushed.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And this two step forward one step back booking of Shota's actual one of the few
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[SPEAKER_01]: He doesn't care much that we dislike showed of booking, but calling it a burial is a reactionary take that when you take a real accountability.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Sure, maybe in a year of time, in Japan, if they don't twiddling their thumbs up building showed up, or maybe show it simply won't have the end-ring ability or personality to get over at the top star once it's a major push, finally come.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But as of July, 2020 said, because he's nothing but a smart booking from each fan response to the situation they have in hand.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Whether we like it or not, show to someone who indeed needs to suffer quite a bit in order to prove his worth to fans, and slowly win them over without feeling forced by how his rest looking to made a venue safer felt.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Surprisingly, not everyone can be a nokey, mudo, or a kata, nor can they be booked exactly like how they guys are.
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[SPEAKER_01]: by the way, the Colxian claims that Tana Hoshi walked to sabotage all the other news fed me the things like Shota.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She gives me doesn't want anyone to pass them are truly bizarre.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's a lot of bizarre news of fan pro wrestling and I say it by the time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, go ahead, Jeremy, go ahead.
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[SPEAKER_01]: First off, I want to thank you for that comment.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know that it,
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[SPEAKER_01]: bothered you enough to send a comment like that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And in my mind, if one person is thinking that and verbalizing it or writing it down for us to see, there's probably 10 other people that still feel the same way.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I find that some valid criticism to at least address.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And perhaps we can find a middle ground here in which we both can agree or at least
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[SPEAKER_01]: things you said, I don't inherently disagree with, but where I come from is that I watch Shota and I see a guy that is weirdly put in a position to only succeed if he can't.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, you're putting these positions
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's like, we're going to see how well you do with it, but even everything up to that point with the build for that Saber Jr. and show to Umano, so like they weren't 100% confident of getting behind him as the challenger.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so that was, that's always been something that's kind of stuck with me if that for whatever reason, whether it be like issues backstage that made them feel like they weren't ready to
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[SPEAKER_01]: a start-stop mentality of what they were booking with him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, he had that loss with Chuck, I guess that's gibberish in here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then he went in and he shaved his head.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that, to me, was supposed to be like, the second chapter that we were all expecting to see.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's when he started using that move with that name.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But nothing really changed.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I didn't see the growth that we were talking about with all of these other guys.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like night, or O'Cano, or Tana Hashi, where this loss changed them in such a way, where we saw it formatively like, trampling onto, into the cup or into the G1 that year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't even remember where showed a finish in that G1, but he didn't make it to the post-bought play, I don't think.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's just one of those, like they started really doing the stuff with Uya and showed of the tag and trying to put them, it's like the fake pawn tie.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it really did feel like there was a queer direction going into reclucing them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then he ended up being in
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[SPEAKER_01]: the opening match, one of the opening teams in and out of wrestling kingdom in three minutes, and it looks like I want this guy to have a greater presence than just jerking the curtain and having a great entrance alongside a major pop star.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a myth use of Shota Umano.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I'm looking at all of these things, and I just, I see the confidence they have getting behind Yoda Fuji and trying to make him one of the top guys.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I've seen show to Umano be here before that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I've seen guys like thinly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I've seen guys like Will Osprey desperately try and put him over and give him win to give him the push.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And for whatever reason, there's always been somebody back there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, hmm, no, this isn't the time to do that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's the part where it's just like, I don't dislike show to Umano.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I want this company,
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[SPEAKER_01]: to have a consistent plan with him, where it feels like no matter what happens, this is the direction that we're going.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, hell or high water, we're getting you to this point in the company, and this is what's gonna happen.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I just don't feel that sense of confidence and stability behind one of the top three baby faces that they have right now in making sure that he
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's confidently and competently booked in a way where we can all universally save like they know what they have with them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He is better and better with every match that he has and watching him in this G1, I get why people believe and want him to be the IWGP champion or at least have that opportunity again at Brechleton.
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[SPEAKER_00]: As far as the burial thing goes, my issue with
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[SPEAKER_00]: Matt Mash with Gabe Kid wasn't that wasn't even that he lost, although, you know, he loses a lot of big matches for a guy that's supposed to be on the top or toward the top, or on his way to the top.
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[SPEAKER_00]: My issue was that Gabe Kid wouldn't even rest, show to Omenel.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That match was about Gabe Kid and her Oshitana Hashie.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, once again, the guy who is retired and allegedly retired, I don't think he's retired.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That match was so much more about Tanahashi than it was about Umano.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Umano look like a chump.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He was a dub plot to us on that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That Gabe kid was rolling through so that Gabe kid could get in Tanahashi's face.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's been my issue with Tanahashi.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's this whole idea that these guys can't accomplish anything without daddy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's that's been maybe a bit of an exaggeration, but maybe not.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And
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[SPEAKER_00]: I do still wonder if Ta-da-Hashi is willing to let a baby face get to that point because I do think that Ta-da-Hashi finishes in any ego contest you want to get into a myth.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He finishes first second and third, a lot of good, big stars and wrestling are like that and need to be in order for them to get to that point.
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[SPEAKER_01]: in over a year or two a thund, the mentor kind of half to perish.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And why Obi-Wan dies, so Luke can offend.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Tonahashi isn't perish.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's, so that was what.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The second chapter thing, the head shaving, getting a new move, doing all that stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That should have been the trigger.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If he had started winning more after that, then I think this would have worked.
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[SPEAKER_00]: tried into this correct.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was too much too soon and the fans weren't ready for it yet.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But he lost for a while and then he had that thing where he had to shave his head because he realized in storyline that it wasn't working I have to just start a new and that second chapter that should have been the beginning of that push guys have had losses like that look at what happened with night oh he had to go to Mexico all that kind of the other changes whole attitude
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[SPEAKER_00]: And Ocada couldn't beat him in the biggest stage and he just did your good kid, but you're not the ace and Ocada left crying So that Ocada had to come back, but Ocada did he won one and one and one and one and climb back up there So that there was almost a full house when he wrestled on a hasher again That's the kind of thing they need for Umino instead of constantly stubbing his toe or making him look like
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[SPEAKER_00]: The other guy in the match, that match was all about Gabe Kintamaashi.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And allegedly, Tonahashi's not going to be wrestling.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's going to be showed a, that was my issue with it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's why it looked like a burial because it looked like kid was just abusing Shota on the way to taunting Tonahashi.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I thought that that was a mistake.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I thought that that hurt Shota.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was frustrated with that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And just over and over again, all these thoughts that these guys are the future, these guys are the future.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and they just lose and lose and lose and they're like that's and we've looked at looked at the people who have drawn money for New Japan.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They want these guys to draw money.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The guys that have drawn money for New Japan didn't go through all that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That does not get the crowd to necessarily believe in you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They got to do some work for it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I feel like that work isn't being done when they make him look like a puts.
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[SPEAKER_00]: As the guy is pilot driving him on the floor and staring at
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like it was the easiest thing in the world to beat down show to Umano.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's not how you build a big star.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'll stand by of actresses.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm all day long.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And objectively, Tana Hashie has been a poor president.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Look at the attendance numbers.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We have had some of the lowest-tended big shows in the history.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: his retirement Japanese lover retirement so the the rest of kingdom did great but over and over again we're seeing some of the smallest post-pandemic crowds we have objectively you can argue about the storylines but objectively this isn't drawing money what ended up happening and i've kind of chewed on this for a couple days is when you do a wrestling angle and you've filmed for television
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it's not just like WWE AEW and New Japan, then it's like, all right, we're going to put a camera here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to do something.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You stage it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You make sure that you have the right angle.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So all the things are conveyed.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Making sure that you have the right angle to show the guy on the ground, the guy doing the injury, the people being affected.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All these things are generally planned out ahead of time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think what fundamentally happened here is that the way that they staged and
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[SPEAKER_01]: had a presence of Shota looking like he was unable to fight back, again, the invading and truetor and the perception that we're waiting for Tana Hachi to do something, whereas what it should have been is that
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[SPEAKER_01]: Gabe had incapacitated Shota so he literally was not able to free any of the things that happened and then still keeping Shota in the in the periphery, then making sure it's like your guy showed a can't do anything about this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, like always referring that a Shota, like your guy showed a your protector, your avatar of NutriPant.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Keep looking at him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's on the ground.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Then you come back and you make sure that the focus is about Shota.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But what Gabe did was he was ignoring Shota and going after Hiroshi Tanahashi, making sure that the inculc were laid toward him instead of Hiroshi Tanahashi having to look and say it's like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: What am I going to do about my guy, he's on the ground, like Gabe is insulting his honor, Gabe is insulting his thing, he is my guy, I want to help him, but Gabe made it about Hiroshi Tanahashi, that Hiroshi Tanahashi, that and completely ignoring Shota and that was the fundamental break.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and showed us to be saving Tana Hash.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He may be sometime he will in the future or something like that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But all through, well, it will be that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, unfortunately, this whole thing came across is that he needs daddy to save him because he's not because he can't handle this at all.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, the heel needs to go over sometimes in order for that final triumph to mean something.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't deny that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This was done poorly.
01:00:01.777 --> 01:00:02.977
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it needed to be about.
01:00:03.669 --> 01:00:05.350
[SPEAKER_01]: ton of hot, like, looked on the hot.
01:00:05.370 --> 01:00:18.838
[SPEAKER_01]: If you look what I've done to show them, you know, like, and then, like, coming back and making it about, like, the feud between Shoda and kid and then kid, like, taunting ton of hot, she because he messed with his top guy.
01:00:19.318 --> 01:00:26.202
[SPEAKER_01]: But they, no way, shape or form, did they truly convey the show to look at top guy in a way that gave him that?
01:00:26.542 --> 01:00:31.665
[SPEAKER_00]: And the way they did that, it felt like the money match was time to how she versus kid, not a rematch for show to it.
01:00:31.945 --> 01:00:34.687
[SPEAKER_00]: It looked like the guy he mode down on the way to the big match.
01:00:34.707 --> 01:00:43.692
[SPEAKER_00]: So that when you left Gork and Holly just thinking, well, they're at the I left thinking that God, time to how she might come back and fight this guy, because that's the money match now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that's the, I think that's the wrong thing.
01:00:46.694 --> 01:00:51.435
[SPEAKER_00]: You, unless that's what they're going to do and you can have showed a moxley or something like that down the road.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's time to get there.
01:00:52.435 --> 01:01:03.698
[SPEAKER_01]: It's the point it was an error and presentation compounded by the fact that showed it now injured and will not be able to have that match with Gabe to further that feud in order to get back to that global title match.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We will get that global title match.
01:01:05.719 --> 01:01:15.741
[SPEAKER_01]: I have no doubt, you know, but this is just a situational ship storm and the reality is they had.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, five more days to decide whether Chota was going to be able to be cleared for this for night two, you know, no one's replacing him, Torayano replacing him on all the under, under card tags.
01:01:30.684 --> 01:01:38.946
[SPEAKER_01]: But to me, the fact that they decided so early that this was in contact with Chota, the rest looking to main event and that they could, uh,
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[SPEAKER_01]: why don't they replace them?
01:01:42.724 --> 01:01:51.011
[SPEAKER_01]: It is to maintain the appearance of legitimacy and a tournament that none of this stuff is predetermined or anything like that.
01:01:51.632 --> 01:02:01.460
[SPEAKER_01]: Even though what all is, if you replace a guy and then all the sudden weirdly the math works out with the same guy's win, you kind of tend to believe more likely.
01:02:03.155 --> 01:02:05.917
[SPEAKER_00]: For the people listening as a podcast, I put a comment up on the screen.
01:02:05.937 --> 01:02:07.277
[SPEAKER_00]: The Jeremy jumped right into it.
01:02:07.377 --> 01:02:08.618
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a question for Jeremy Ores.
01:02:08.658 --> 01:02:10.259
[SPEAKER_00]: Why don't they replace him just asking?
01:02:10.539 --> 01:02:12.280
[SPEAKER_00]: We were going to address that in a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, they have a history of not doing that because they don't just throw somebody else in there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If this had happened before the tournament, you probably could have put Tahichi in there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But and also Ring of Elite mentioned that he is nominating the top-turned-book
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[SPEAKER_01]: It could be, and that could be, could be, anyway, the whole idea is, they made that decision so quickly to pull him from the rest of the G1 that I suspected he was not going to win this thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
01:02:44.681 --> 01:02:47.444
[SPEAKER_00]: And then the, but why do they do that?
01:02:47.664 --> 01:02:51.888
[SPEAKER_00]: There's a precedent that when Naito got hurt in match one, they just forfeited him out the rest of the way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's, it's just a thing where they don't slide somebody in once the tournament has already started.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They have.
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[SPEAKER_00]: done replacements in like super juniors with young lions, but the person got hurt on the way to the tournament.
01:03:06.782 --> 01:03:07.303
[SPEAKER_00]: Like Goke.
01:03:08.582 --> 01:03:08.962
[SPEAKER_00]: Doki.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's that's how we got him because Desperado got injured.
01:03:11.984 --> 01:03:13.245
[SPEAKER_00]: There was another one we got.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think they brought him down.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so actually he was on both ends of that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's a, but that was one where Desperado had been the reason we have Doki and New Japan.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Desperado been announced for the tournament and then got his job broken by June.
01:03:26.812 --> 01:03:32.296
[SPEAKER_00]: And then, but yeah, you're right, Doki and then he got hurt, so they story line that and put the guy in.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There was another one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, shoot, who was it?
01:03:35.978 --> 01:03:42.841
[SPEAKER_00]: By the way, I've been doing mora, who entered a tournament when oh and nine, because somebody got hurt before and they just had them out there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But once the tournament begins, if someone can't continue, then they they forfeit them out and that's one thing, as much as they changed stuff around with a number of blocks and whether they have three people from each block moving on or two people like they're doing this year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: One thing that's been very consistent about, if you get hurt during a tournament, you're forfeited out the rest of the way.
01:04:02.533 --> 01:04:03.453
[SPEAKER_00]: And that goes all the way back.
01:04:03.473 --> 01:04:13.000
[SPEAKER_00]: We talked about it a little bit during the tiger mask biography 20 years ago in the best of super juniors, different owners, different bookers, all that stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's one thing New Japan has been consistent about throughout the years' tournaments.
01:04:17.203 --> 01:04:19.264
[SPEAKER_00]: Is somebody starts tournament?
01:04:20.705 --> 01:04:22.886
[SPEAKER_00]: They got to be forfeited out if they can't continue.
01:04:23.207 --> 01:04:24.548
[SPEAKER_00]: It's just the way they roll on that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Or one out for our boy Shota, better day for head for him, get well through the buddy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We like him, and then there's time to fix this.
01:04:33.516 --> 01:04:34.356
[SPEAKER_00]: There's time to fix this.
01:04:34.416 --> 01:04:35.077
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's see if that's it.
01:04:35.357 --> 01:04:36.097
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not worried.
01:04:36.578 --> 01:04:47.464
[SPEAKER_01]: I hope I didn't, this conversation, this dialogue that we had about this kind of, kind of a meal rate, the vibe that we had.
01:04:47.604 --> 01:04:51.546
[SPEAKER_01]: I felt like we had a really good understanding who were talking on the comment.
01:04:51.907 --> 01:04:53.307
[SPEAKER_01]: And I hope that this conversation,
01:04:54.973 --> 01:04:56.595
[SPEAKER_01]: Better clarify where we're coming from.
01:04:56.675 --> 01:04:57.616
[SPEAKER_01]: We're not bearing the guy.
01:04:57.936 --> 01:05:01.059
[SPEAKER_01]: Cause I'm not going to just think the company doesn't know what to do with their babysitter.
01:05:01.700 --> 01:05:08.286
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and I think that the, I think that objectively businesses bearing out that, that they're struggling with that.
01:05:09.107 --> 01:05:11.810
[SPEAKER_00]: Next we have, Hero Kigoto and Sanada.
01:05:13.091 --> 01:05:14.192
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, good luck, Hero Kigoto.
01:05:14.212 --> 01:05:15.414
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's see how you can do in this one.
01:05:15.934 --> 01:05:18.537
[SPEAKER_01]: So it wasn't bad at all, expecting.
01:05:19.272 --> 01:05:19.672
[SPEAKER_00]: One good.
01:05:20.032 --> 01:05:21.092
[SPEAKER_00]: But yes, you're right.
01:05:21.512 --> 01:05:28.434
[SPEAKER_00]: He can't do skull end very well because he's got all that damage and is with his neck and his spectorals and his...
01:05:28.454 --> 01:05:31.154
[SPEAKER_00]: So the skull end looked really bad.
01:05:31.334 --> 01:05:36.575
[SPEAKER_00]: He gets a look like all go-to-head to do his basically kind of tuck his chin and he was out of it there, his stuff.
01:05:37.956 --> 01:05:39.856
[SPEAKER_00]: He tried to do some stuff so not a dead.
01:05:39.896 --> 01:05:40.336
[SPEAKER_00]: He tried.
01:05:40.376 --> 01:05:43.677
[SPEAKER_00]: He even flipped off the ropes, landed on his feet.
01:05:43.897 --> 01:05:44.897
[SPEAKER_00]: That was pretty good.
01:05:45.257 --> 01:05:47.058
[SPEAKER_00]: Thankfully, the upper half of his body
01:05:49.718 --> 01:05:54.161
[SPEAKER_00]: He hit a Moodle style moon salt, which Walker called a rounding body press.
01:05:54.602 --> 01:05:56.043
[SPEAKER_00]: And Chris Walker at a bad night.
01:05:56.423 --> 01:06:00.066
[SPEAKER_00]: And he's he's having a lot of bad nights lately with with New Japan.
01:06:00.086 --> 01:06:01.987
[SPEAKER_00]: He was just offered a game and maybe.
01:06:02.806 --> 01:06:14.148
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe so, maybe so, but he, I mean, to not know the moon soul, that's a pretty alarming, but you know, he's been struggling with the names of moves since he got there.
01:06:14.748 --> 01:06:16.509
[SPEAKER_00]: And that was the only one.
01:06:16.549 --> 01:06:20.689
[SPEAKER_00]: It was just the most egregious what I saw, he wouldn't sell around anybody press or something.
01:06:20.729 --> 01:06:28.691
[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, so not a try to few things, like I mentioned, he attempted some moves, but not all of them worked out.
01:06:29.331 --> 01:06:29.931
[SPEAKER_00]: He just,
01:06:30.391 --> 01:06:31.833
[SPEAKER_00]: just physically is just not there.
01:06:32.413 --> 01:06:36.397
[SPEAKER_00]: Go to end it up getting the GTW and one with it.
01:06:36.497 --> 01:06:49.949
[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, with Sanada, if this is the kind of match he had with GoTo, I'm concerned with what kind of performance we're going to get from him.
01:06:49.969 --> 01:06:55.534
[SPEAKER_00]: At the rest of the way with guys who aren't as good as here, Okigoto, Jeremy, and
01:06:56.674 --> 01:07:00.216
[SPEAKER_00]: This is a puzzler to me that sonatas in this tournament, frankly.
01:07:00.276 --> 01:07:08.379
[SPEAKER_00]: It just doesn't seem like he's physically capable of having good matches, nine times with nine different guys.
01:07:08.559 --> 01:07:14.582
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a lot to ask of anyone, let alone stuff, someone who is so compromised in his body.
01:07:17.704 --> 01:07:18.044
[SPEAKER_01]: First off,
01:07:19.398 --> 01:07:31.382
[SPEAKER_01]: I wanted to compliment the outfit that's not a came out in full golden gear with a golden sombrero, which I thought was ironic, it's most of his matches he seems to strike out it.
01:07:33.163 --> 01:07:39.345
[SPEAKER_00]: Very well put, and that is the thing with Sinada, he needs to lean into that because right now he is just an entrance.
01:07:41.486 --> 01:07:41.926
[SPEAKER_00]: Here's my wild
01:07:45.984 --> 01:08:03.360
[SPEAKER_01]: theory that is potentially not based in reality in any way, shape or form, is that I kind of wonder if this G1 is the company's test to sonata whether it's viable moving forward.
01:08:03.940 --> 01:08:04.521
[SPEAKER_01]: Like you can,
01:08:05.717 --> 01:08:08.399
[SPEAKER_01]: Like he'll be able to sustain, he'll be able to do this.
01:08:08.579 --> 01:08:12.122
[SPEAKER_01]: He's somebody that they can count on to at least do a match on the undercard.
01:08:12.142 --> 01:08:18.087
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, like he's been with the company years, right?
01:08:18.247 --> 01:08:21.730
[SPEAKER_01]: Like guys like Hanma are on their way out to do it.
01:08:21.810 --> 01:08:24.632
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not a well-off way to be coming like the next Hanma.
01:08:25.300 --> 01:08:26.501
[SPEAKER_01]: or you know what I mean?
01:08:26.521 --> 01:08:27.823
[SPEAKER_01]: Like just that kind of got it.
01:08:28.804 --> 01:08:37.372
[SPEAKER_01]: And I genuinely tend to believe that like with the effort that he put forward on here, this was, all right, let's see what you can do.
01:08:37.652 --> 01:08:45.500
[SPEAKER_01]: And if we can use you going forward, we're going to use, but like you have to show us something.
01:08:46.239 --> 01:08:59.623
[SPEAKER_01]: and he showed them something, but like that was the level of what I felt like the effort was like he was wrestling with a purpose or like he needed, he needed to not just clocking and clock out for this match and I definitely got that set.
01:08:59.943 --> 01:09:00.423
[SPEAKER_00]: And he tried.
01:09:00.543 --> 01:09:00.883
[SPEAKER_00]: He tried.
01:09:01.303 --> 01:09:02.403
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
01:09:02.503 --> 01:09:04.484
[SPEAKER_00]: Brad says, maybe Walker's messing up the moves.
01:09:04.504 --> 01:09:08.505
[SPEAKER_00]: This is getting ready to jump to AEW and he fit in with Tony S. He'll comment.
01:09:14.288 --> 01:09:15.188
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, more on that later.
01:09:15.288 --> 01:09:18.729
[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, more on that later.
01:09:18.989 --> 01:09:19.729
[SPEAKER_00]: Not on this show though.
01:09:19.769 --> 01:09:20.590
[SPEAKER_00]: Not on this episode.
01:09:20.650 --> 01:09:21.370
[SPEAKER_00]: Not on this episode.
01:09:21.410 --> 01:09:21.930
[SPEAKER_00]: More on that later.
01:09:22.390 --> 01:09:25.271
[SPEAKER_00]: You get way more a Kellum Newman was up next.
01:09:25.331 --> 01:09:26.031
[SPEAKER_00]: Now we're talking.
01:09:26.351 --> 01:09:27.712
[SPEAKER_00]: This was good stuff.
01:09:28.192 --> 01:09:32.373
[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, this we had Kellum Newman knew we were at before the match started.
01:09:33.522 --> 01:09:50.148
[SPEAKER_00]: Jeremy I remember turning you and saying to both you and Chris Samson Chris was poking around up in our neck of the woods in the sweet at that moment and I said I feel like whoever loses this match is going to be the guy that has the rough start and then rallies to the end.
01:09:51.169 --> 01:09:53.169
[SPEAKER_00]: That was there's always one of those.
01:09:53.189 --> 01:09:56.791
[SPEAKER_00]: They've even done it with heels before they did it with Jay White a few years ago.
01:09:56.851 --> 01:09:59.852
[SPEAKER_00]: So it wouldn't have been crazy to do it with Newman Ed Newman lost.
01:10:00.940 --> 01:10:07.044
[SPEAKER_00]: you did a lot of shoulder work playing to the injury that Newman had a couple of months ago.
01:10:07.964 --> 01:10:10.106
[SPEAKER_00]: The big moves in this match were really good.
01:10:10.606 --> 01:10:19.272
[SPEAKER_00]: These two had excellent timing with one another, and they played to each other's big moves very well fed for them, sold them very very well.
01:10:20.212 --> 01:10:25.955
[SPEAKER_00]: the timing of hitting them was strong 15 minutes 42 seconds, but it felt like it was six or seven.
01:10:26.155 --> 01:10:32.619
[SPEAKER_00]: It just flew by and Newman managed to hit the make way to win it, but this was a really good match.
01:10:33.279 --> 01:10:42.384
[SPEAKER_00]: And we'll see if I'm right, but I feel like this is going to be the thing where you maybe stumbles out of the gate a little bit, then has to suck it up and have that winning streak at the end.
01:10:42.404 --> 01:10:48.307
[SPEAKER_00]: If he will, because I think you is going to be, I don't think he's going to win the tournament that he's not my pick.
01:10:48.747 --> 01:10:52.589
[SPEAKER_00]: But I definitely think he will be a part of everything down to the end.
01:10:53.329 --> 01:11:00.152
[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, this is the one, though, I wouldn't be surprised if he goes 0-1-2, maybe even 0-1-3, before he goes in that strong run.
01:11:00.812 --> 01:11:02.633
[SPEAKER_00]: But terrific match.
01:11:03.273 --> 01:11:07.655
[SPEAKER_00]: And again, establishing the count of Newman is also going to be a big factor in this tournament.
01:11:08.276 --> 01:11:13.218
[SPEAKER_00]: And these two could resty each other over and over again, and I'll watch every one of them because this is quality stuff.
01:11:14.107 --> 01:11:19.731
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I thought, uh, I thought you get in particular, uh, was really strong in this match.
01:11:20.212 --> 01:11:27.157
[SPEAKER_01]: Calum Newman looked impressive coming back from an injury and what you just got cleared on Monday to wrestle this match on Saturday.
01:11:27.217 --> 01:11:28.838
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's, that's the photo finish.
01:11:30.762 --> 01:11:43.327
[SPEAKER_01]: I think you're right on the losing streak mentality, like you can lose two or three right out the gate and then just be behind the A-Bow while everyone else is like four or six points and he has zero.
01:11:43.907 --> 01:11:52.450
[SPEAKER_01]: And he ended up like speaking in in the second place spot into the finals, like, or he doesn't, or he just doesn't make it.
01:11:52.850 --> 01:11:59.253
[SPEAKER_01]: But if you get into Calment and Aaron Wolfe that I have my eyes on in this book for the two of the three
01:12:00.234 --> 01:12:04.621
[SPEAKER_00]: And to go to my point about, oh, a more maybe having a rough start out of the gate, his next match is against Zach.
01:12:05.282 --> 01:12:09.449
[SPEAKER_00]: So again, two guys that he could absolutely lose to and not look like a champ.
01:12:09.469 --> 01:12:13.216
[SPEAKER_01]: Two former IWGP champion that he can lose to and all look like a champ.
01:12:13.867 --> 01:12:21.733
[SPEAKER_00]: And then rally at the end to get be right in there at, uh, is it for for the A block, well, which, which, uh, anyway, how do you hear the B block?
01:12:22.173 --> 01:12:26.636
[SPEAKER_00]: It's either in Shizuoka or Korkin Hall, wherever the last night of block action is for them.
01:12:27.096 --> 01:12:28.818
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, if it's B, I believe that's Korkin Hall.
01:12:28.898 --> 01:12:30.879
[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, uh, that's all down the line.
01:12:30.899 --> 01:12:31.520
[SPEAKER_00]: We'll get to all that.
01:12:31.640 --> 01:12:31.820
[SPEAKER_00]: But,
01:12:32.460 --> 01:12:53.166
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, two very credible losses, perhaps, and again, maybe it'll be Zach and I'll be totally wrong, but This is the match where I just kind of just thought this is going to put somebody Behind and then we'll see the struggle and if you want a different pathway to win the match with each guy One guy getting the loose it's three out the gate.
01:12:53.747 --> 01:12:54.967
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you just feel like that
01:12:55.447 --> 01:13:07.836
[SPEAKER_00]: Had they gone the other way with Calam, you can say, oh, look, his shoulder man, he can't, it's not gonna work out for him this year, his shoulder, and then have him suck it up and go, or it's gonna be you, you're having to overcome losses to former champions, you know.
01:13:07.856 --> 01:13:12.160
[SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't last year, but it would be year before we're finally starting out to get with the losing streak.
01:13:12.520 --> 01:13:14.702
[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly, yeah, they'll do it for heels too.
01:13:15.522 --> 01:13:17.504
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, with that in mind, good stuff.
01:13:17.564 --> 01:13:20.906
[SPEAKER_00]: This is worth going back and watching if you haven't caught it yet.
01:13:20.986 --> 01:13:21.287
[SPEAKER_00]: Next.
01:13:22.114 --> 01:13:26.916
[SPEAKER_00]: They have real halo, he will a big Roy, uh, I guess, oh, oh, a big Roy indeed.
01:13:27.016 --> 01:13:29.537
[SPEAKER_00]: Woo, I can't, I can't hear anything else now.
01:13:29.577 --> 01:13:34.439
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think about it, uh, it was, uh, something that they mentioned that because we will love some American culture.
01:13:34.459 --> 01:13:37.920
[SPEAKER_00]: He's grown the mallets, uh, they, they started calling him big Roy.
01:13:38.140 --> 01:13:41.142
[SPEAKER_00]: And, uh, and now I, uh, now I can't see it any other way.
01:13:41.182 --> 01:13:41.842
[SPEAKER_00]: It's perfect for him.
01:13:42.642 --> 01:13:48.524
[SPEAKER_00]: But our trucker, Big Roy, against Oleg Bolton in this match, this was semi-main event.
01:13:48.745 --> 01:13:50.465
[SPEAKER_00]: We think, we think, we don't know.
01:13:50.845 --> 01:13:54.947
[SPEAKER_00]: We think that the semi-main event was originally going to be Gabe Kid and Drillamoloni.
01:13:54.967 --> 01:13:59.068
[SPEAKER_00]: It makes sense, story line-wise, that one would be second from the top.
01:13:59.329 --> 01:14:01.709
[SPEAKER_00]: But again, we don't know that.
01:14:01.910 --> 01:14:07.932
[SPEAKER_00]: And the fact that they put this here, they're trying to tell us something with this one, because they had some confidence in this to put this second to last.
01:14:08.472 --> 01:14:14.020
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't tell the golden Roy that was the reason they put this one here.
01:14:14.922 --> 01:14:16.084
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, we have new music.
01:14:17.369 --> 01:14:18.730
[SPEAKER_01]: New video, new everything.
01:14:19.230 --> 01:14:20.330
[SPEAKER_00]: It's going to take some getting used to.
01:14:20.350 --> 01:14:22.091
[SPEAKER_00]: It's going to take some getting used to.
01:14:22.351 --> 01:14:27.313
[SPEAKER_00]: Similar to Suji's thing where, you know, Suji has music and it's not that it's a bad song.
01:14:27.353 --> 01:14:28.674
[SPEAKER_00]: I just don't know if it's a wrestling theme.
01:14:29.154 --> 01:14:30.435
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, we was music.
01:14:30.675 --> 01:14:33.076
[SPEAKER_00]: It's, again, I'm not saying it's a bad song.
01:14:33.116 --> 01:14:34.196
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not sure it's a wrestling theme.
01:14:34.216 --> 01:14:35.177
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe I'll get used to it though.
01:14:35.417 --> 01:14:39.579
[SPEAKER_00]: I felt the same thing about Go Ace when I first heard Go Ace with Tomahashi.
01:14:40.059 --> 01:14:42.360
[SPEAKER_00]: I just said, no, no, no, no, you don't take away high energy for this.
01:14:42.500 --> 01:14:43.781
[SPEAKER_00]: You don't take away high energy for this.
01:14:44.661 --> 01:14:45.221
[SPEAKER_00]: I got used to it.
01:14:45.682 --> 01:14:48.343
[SPEAKER_00]: I was just one bed.
01:14:48.823 --> 01:14:51.685
[SPEAKER_00]: In the end though, we would had a game plan.
01:14:51.705 --> 01:14:55.027
[SPEAKER_00]: The whole story of this match was that OE will went in with a game plan.
01:14:55.087 --> 01:14:58.589
[SPEAKER_00]: He had learned how to attack a body part through working with TMDK.
01:14:58.969 --> 01:15:05.993
[SPEAKER_00]: He picked one out on Bolton and he was relentless and it thwarted a lot of Bolton's strengths by working his arm effectively.
01:15:06.393 --> 01:15:08.974
[SPEAKER_00]: It took away a lot of his big moves
01:15:14.454 --> 01:15:21.521
[SPEAKER_00]: People working a body part and following through as thoroughly as you didn't this match, it was a bit of an outlier in that.
01:15:21.561 --> 01:15:26.887
[SPEAKER_00]: You see plenty of people working the leg, like what Maria was doing with Oscar, but in the end, Oscar wouldn't even limp in when he left.
01:15:28.257 --> 01:15:40.160
[SPEAKER_00]: the uh this was effective and it looked like something that would work and it was put over as uh something that worked because both sold it so well and in the end it was a submission.
01:15:40.320 --> 01:15:44.621
[SPEAKER_00]: He worked the arm until he got a submission until he made it hurt so much.
01:15:44.641 --> 01:15:49.202
[SPEAKER_00]: The boltman was worried about being injured and he quit and it was effective.
01:15:49.622 --> 01:15:50.603
[SPEAKER_00]: I think both didn't really
01:15:51.723 --> 01:15:54.524
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, look good in the match and I was happy about it.
01:15:54.624 --> 01:15:56.364
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, we were with two points on the board.
01:15:57.045 --> 01:15:58.765
[SPEAKER_00]: Bolton's going to do just fine in the tournament.
01:15:58.805 --> 01:16:04.987
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not his year to win it, but yeah, we're going to win a G1, but he's going to come close sometimes.
01:16:05.987 --> 01:16:06.868
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but good stuff.
01:16:06.968 --> 01:16:08.268
[SPEAKER_00]: And worthy of the semi-main event.
01:16:09.509 --> 01:16:12.229
[SPEAKER_01]: This was a pleasant surprise.
01:16:12.569 --> 01:16:18.491
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I've always pretty confident of Bolton in a dense spot, but this felt like a statement
01:16:21.289 --> 01:16:23.091
[SPEAKER_01]: And he had been in the G1 last year.
01:16:23.592 --> 01:16:25.173
[SPEAKER_01]: It had been somewhat unremarkable.
01:16:25.554 --> 01:16:30.339
[SPEAKER_01]: They had him doing the jaw jacking with U.L.
01:16:30.499 --> 01:16:40.229
[SPEAKER_01]: all going through 2020, except up to this point, frankly, where they just been going back and forth, back and forth, back and forth, and we're just waiting.
01:16:41.630 --> 01:16:51.452
[SPEAKER_01]: For them to find we have their moment and maybe maybe you know maybe they're gonna have their big one here the G1 at some point like it's entirely possible, but it's just one of those.
01:16:53.812 --> 01:17:03.674
[SPEAKER_01]: Of all the guys that had the repackage redab you refer me or whatever refresh you want to call it for the G1 I felt like of all the guys.
01:17:04.894 --> 01:17:08.035
[SPEAKER_01]: Big Roy got the most out of the repackage.
01:17:08.547 --> 01:17:10.208
[SPEAKER_00]: By the way, we're the only ones calling him big Roy.
01:17:10.228 --> 01:17:10.909
[SPEAKER_00]: That's not a thing.
01:17:10.929 --> 01:17:11.489
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I know.
01:17:11.609 --> 01:17:13.530
[SPEAKER_01]: I had to see someone else call him Roy.
01:17:13.550 --> 01:17:14.491
[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, oh, hey, oh, hey.
01:17:14.571 --> 01:17:16.032
[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, no kidding, what?
01:17:16.352 --> 01:17:17.292
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm kind of into that.
01:17:17.492 --> 01:17:18.493
[SPEAKER_00]: It's going to catch on folks.
01:17:18.733 --> 01:17:33.582
[SPEAKER_01]: Roy, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey
01:17:35.775 --> 01:17:36.956
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, main event.
01:17:37.857 --> 01:17:39.299
[SPEAKER_00]: Rematch of last year's wrestling.
01:17:40.560 --> 01:17:42.161
[SPEAKER_00]: But Brad says he's big Roy to him now.
01:17:42.261 --> 01:17:42.742
[SPEAKER_00]: There you go.
01:17:42.762 --> 01:17:43.322
[SPEAKER_00]: See you.
01:17:43.383 --> 01:17:44.924
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, it's just starting to build momentum.
01:17:45.044 --> 01:17:45.825
[SPEAKER_00]: Start to build momentum.
01:17:45.965 --> 01:17:46.245
[SPEAKER_00]: Love it.
01:17:47.567 --> 01:17:49.288
[SPEAKER_00]: Rematch of last year's wrestling, the main event.
01:17:49.368 --> 01:17:50.369
[SPEAKER_00]: Takeshita and Suji.
01:17:50.610 --> 01:17:51.791
[SPEAKER_00]: Terrific match in the dome.
01:17:53.228 --> 01:17:55.169
[SPEAKER_00]: Fantastic one here in Chicago.
01:17:55.469 --> 01:17:58.070
[SPEAKER_00]: Jeremy, these two have some chemistry with one another.
01:17:58.190 --> 01:17:59.350
[SPEAKER_00]: These two work well together.
01:17:59.390 --> 01:18:03.792
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, a lot of people work well with Takeshita, but Sushi probably better than most.
01:18:04.072 --> 01:18:08.513
[SPEAKER_00]: Takeshita's of course, I believe, fully the Takeshita's one of the best workers in the business right now.
01:18:09.013 --> 01:18:11.274
[SPEAKER_00]: And Sushi stays with him beautifully.
01:18:11.314 --> 01:18:13.895
[SPEAKER_00]: They seem to know exactly how to feed to one another.
01:18:14.415 --> 01:18:16.976
[SPEAKER_00]: A terrific, big move, main event match.
01:18:18.356 --> 01:18:21.537
[SPEAKER_00]: It was hard to hear the time calls in the building
01:18:23.761 --> 01:18:26.303
[SPEAKER_00]: The crowd was also popping during the final time call.
01:18:26.343 --> 01:18:29.765
[SPEAKER_00]: So both you and I, Jeremy thought it was the 25 minute mark.
01:18:30.365 --> 01:18:33.046
[SPEAKER_00]: We made the comment to each other that like, oh, that's 25.
01:18:33.146 --> 01:18:35.308
[SPEAKER_00]: Either they're going home or they're going to a draw right here, right?
01:18:35.328 --> 01:18:36.849
[SPEAKER_00]: There's not much time for what else.
01:18:36.929 --> 01:18:37.589
[SPEAKER_00]: It was only 20.
01:18:38.370 --> 01:18:40.531
[SPEAKER_00]: But the match felt like it was an epic.
01:18:41.331 --> 01:18:43.973
[SPEAKER_00]: So I thought it was 25 minutes, felt like 25 minutes.
01:18:44.093 --> 01:18:44.813
[SPEAKER_00]: And in a good way.
01:18:45.654 --> 01:18:45.754
[SPEAKER_00]: And
01:18:47.517 --> 01:19:05.969
[SPEAKER_00]: These two just were very well, the guy, of course, to catch the damn near missed him on a tope suit, see the tope account he low rather to cape on he low, he almost cleared sushi and sushi's not a small guy in the aisle and almost splattered himself, but he he managed to to land relatively safely or at least didn't hurt himself.
01:19:07.839 --> 01:19:15.950
[SPEAKER_00]: And overall, just a match was another one of these two where their big moves complement each other well.
01:19:15.970 --> 01:19:18.473
[SPEAKER_00]: So you have someone who does a spear, someone who does a running knee.
01:19:18.513 --> 01:19:23.059
[SPEAKER_00]: So there's all kinds of chances for strong collisions in the middle of the ring, where they're both going for their big move.
01:19:23.079 --> 01:19:24.621
[SPEAKER_00]: And we saw that in each direction.
01:19:27.383 --> 01:19:45.757
[SPEAKER_00]: Yoda is not just using the gene blaster anymore as the spear, the spear has caused a lot of neck problems for the people who have been giving spears over the years, so I don't hate the fact that he's coming up with the fire blaster, which is that spinning version of the move, where he runs at the guy, but kind of grabs him around the waist and spins him to the floor.
01:19:46.458 --> 01:19:51.121
[SPEAKER_00]: A little bit closer to an actual American football tackle, Jeremy, then a spear is, right?
01:19:51.942 --> 01:19:54.643
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and of course, he played the miracle.
01:19:55.004 --> 01:19:57.265
[SPEAKER_01]: He does the tackle drop.
01:19:57.285 --> 01:20:01.167
[SPEAKER_01]: Then couple of like a like the hip drop tackle that is illegal in football.
01:20:01.487 --> 01:20:05.989
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, uh, where it's just basically like tackling and then taking him down with them in a rolling fashion.
01:20:06.349 --> 01:20:13.753
[SPEAKER_01]: So like not the safest thing, but, you know, roughly a little, a little easier to, when people are ready for the move rather than not ready for the move.
01:20:14.265 --> 01:20:19.349
[SPEAKER_00]: Right, and long term, it might be better for him rather than the compression that you get on the next time, sometimes from throwing spears around.
01:20:20.550 --> 01:20:22.011
[SPEAKER_00]: He beat Newman with it for the title.
01:20:22.191 --> 01:20:25.353
[SPEAKER_00]: So he uses it again here for the Fender share 20 minutes 52 seconds.
01:20:25.513 --> 01:20:26.114
[SPEAKER_00]: Excellent match.
01:20:26.154 --> 01:20:28.035
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, to suit your defeats can escape to catch the.
01:20:42.025 --> 01:21:06.315
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm over here criticizing Walker for trippin over things and I'm trippin over just as many air and I today, but it is a lot of the guys had, they each had their candy chance, they each had their camp and again, another match to just have the crowd on its feet, going crazy by the end of it, and when the three count hit, big pop in the now arena, well done to both and a nice main event for opening night of the G1.
01:21:07.108 --> 01:21:11.294
[SPEAKER_01]: There are there were free people that had predicted to catch you to winning this in our little fleet.
01:21:11.374 --> 01:21:16.681
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'll let you flip down with like, so you're telling me you don't think Fuji is going to be doing a speech at the end of the night.
01:21:17.201 --> 01:21:18.363
[SPEAKER_01]: And then you're real quiet.
01:21:18.743 --> 01:21:21.447
[SPEAKER_01]: And they're like, OK. You made you look point.
01:21:21.627 --> 01:21:22.769
[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't think that was nuts.
01:21:24.130 --> 01:21:29.694
[SPEAKER_00]: Just because of the AEW factor that he was a known AEW name there and had held the title before.
01:21:29.975 --> 01:21:35.739
[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't think that was so far out of bounds, but you make a good point that you would want to end this show with the IWGP champion.
01:21:35.759 --> 01:21:36.920
[SPEAKER_01]: What's up?
01:21:37.300 --> 01:21:38.000
[SPEAKER_00]: New Japan.
01:21:38.020 --> 01:21:38.701
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
01:21:38.721 --> 01:21:39.381
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
01:21:39.421 --> 01:21:40.042
[SPEAKER_00]: That's how it turned out.
01:21:40.062 --> 01:21:40.522
[SPEAKER_00]: You're correct.
01:21:42.223 --> 01:21:44.344
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, total thumbs up attending this live.
01:21:44.364 --> 01:21:46.185
[SPEAKER_01]: No one's ever going to be able to attend a live again.
01:21:46.205 --> 01:21:56.429
[SPEAKER_01]: So, uh, I don't know what to tell you, but it's far, far, far outweigh the, uh, the televised at home experience.
01:21:56.449 --> 01:22:05.933
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm sorry for all of you that is on New Japan for not being able to deliver that product that that we saw live because it was a really special show life.
01:22:06.947 --> 01:22:10.328
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and I was like, we just were looking at each other just saying, help us show, help us show.
01:22:10.388 --> 01:22:11.229
[SPEAKER_00]: Good show.
01:22:11.389 --> 01:22:14.210
[SPEAKER_00]: And more than one saying best in New Japan show, they'd seen in person.
01:22:14.230 --> 01:22:17.712
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, that's the way I'm going to remember.
01:22:17.732 --> 01:22:20.773
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think it was my best New Japan show.
01:22:20.793 --> 01:22:21.473
[SPEAKER_01]: I've seen in person.
01:22:23.074 --> 01:22:26.956
[SPEAKER_01]: I think I think from style of all the long beach, I still have it.
01:22:27.876 --> 01:22:28.696
[SPEAKER_00]: That was a hell of a night.
01:22:29.217 --> 01:22:29.857
[SPEAKER_00]: I see how it was.
01:22:31.262 --> 01:22:33.024
[SPEAKER_01]: No, like I'm not I'm not messing around here.
01:22:33.524 --> 01:22:34.985
[SPEAKER_01]: I got I got one of my back pocket.
01:22:35.005 --> 01:22:36.246
[SPEAKER_01]: That's pretty amazing.
01:22:36.547 --> 01:22:40.150
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I have I have a wrestle kingdom that I enjoyed quite a bit.
01:22:40.230 --> 01:22:41.951
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's it's stuff one stuff.
01:22:42.532 --> 01:22:48.657
[SPEAKER_01]: But I enjoyed it up from hip nap and it's an appetite if it's really true to come to fruition.
01:22:48.977 --> 01:22:50.058
[SPEAKER_00]: Jeremy's dog is joined us.
01:22:50.158 --> 01:22:50.558
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
01:22:50.638 --> 01:22:52.960
[SPEAKER_00]: So let's look at what's coming up ahead here.
01:22:52.980 --> 01:22:54.881
[SPEAKER_00]: We have two shows in Hokkaido.
01:22:54.901 --> 01:22:57.683
[SPEAKER_00]: They're staying the whole weekend in Hokkaido Saturday and Sunday.
01:22:58.363 --> 01:23:02.406
[SPEAKER_00]: And on Saturday, it is a block matches with one exception.
01:23:02.466 --> 01:23:05.308
[SPEAKER_00]: This is where they're sliding in the Gabe Kid, Drill and Maloney match.
01:23:05.328 --> 01:23:06.949
[SPEAKER_00]: They're supposed to be in Chicago.
01:23:07.469 --> 01:23:09.931
[SPEAKER_00]: Again, kids' vision issues kept that from happening.
01:23:09.951 --> 01:23:11.152
[SPEAKER_00]: So, kid versus Maloney.
01:23:12.037 --> 01:23:13.359
[SPEAKER_00]: will be the B-block match.
01:23:13.819 --> 01:23:22.811
[SPEAKER_00]: After that A-block action, Great O'Con versus Sonata, to catch the versus Jake Lee, both in versus Euto Ice, that's interesting one.
01:23:23.272 --> 01:23:25.335
[SPEAKER_00]: Shingo versus O'Eua should be a guy.
01:23:25.375 --> 01:23:27.538
[SPEAKER_01]: Big Roy, Big Roy, you got it wrong.
01:23:28.560 --> 01:23:32.343
[SPEAKER_00]: hero Oki Godo versus Yota Suji in that one.
01:23:32.443 --> 01:23:38.467
[SPEAKER_00]: So good stuff Saturday and Hokkaido Sunday, they'll be right back in the same building with the B block.
01:23:38.607 --> 01:23:41.389
[SPEAKER_00]: And that will be Maloney versus Sanare, that'll be good.
01:23:42.149 --> 01:23:46.672
[SPEAKER_00]: Oscar versus Gabe Kid, Newman versus Ren Narita.
01:23:47.133 --> 01:23:47.853
[SPEAKER_00]: Good luck, Calm.
01:23:48.714 --> 01:23:50.855
[SPEAKER_00]: Owe more versus Zach Saber, Jr.
01:23:51.015 --> 01:23:52.956
[SPEAKER_00]: I mentioned that one earlier, should be terrific.
01:23:53.237 --> 01:23:55.438
[SPEAKER_00]: And Aaron Wolf will get the four-foot win
01:23:58.796 --> 01:24:01.457
[SPEAKER_00]: Monday, they are in Sendai at the Sun Plaza Hall.
01:24:02.717 --> 01:24:07.398
[SPEAKER_00]: So we have Saturday, Sunday, Monday, three in row, go to verses J.C. Lee.
01:24:07.818 --> 01:24:13.499
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, we will verses Great O'Con, to catch the verses U.S. Nice, go to Suji versus Sonata.
01:24:13.979 --> 01:24:14.420
[SPEAKER_00]: Excuse me.
01:24:14.620 --> 01:24:16.440
[SPEAKER_00]: And Bolton versus Shingo.
01:24:21.081 --> 01:24:21.501
[SPEAKER_00]: Excuse me.
01:24:22.001 --> 01:24:24.282
[SPEAKER_00]: After that, Wednesday and E.C.
01:24:24.302 --> 01:24:24.642
[SPEAKER_00]: got him.
01:24:24.662 --> 01:24:25.322
[SPEAKER_00]: Listen to my voice.
01:24:26.290 --> 01:24:30.353
[SPEAKER_00]: In the B block, Wolf versus Kid, Oscar versus Enra, right?
01:24:31.334 --> 01:24:34.716
[SPEAKER_00]: Another interesting one with the tag team times, and such pardon me.
01:24:36.157 --> 01:24:44.022
[SPEAKER_00]: Owing more of versus Maloney, Zach's day with Junior versus Calm Newman, and in that one, Red Nareda will get the four-fit win over Shota.
01:24:44.402 --> 01:24:49.266
[SPEAKER_00]: So that one was supposed to take place Wednesday Indy gotta, that'll get us back to Thursday.
01:24:49.666 --> 01:24:50.667
[SPEAKER_00]: And after that,
01:24:51.822 --> 01:24:59.147
[SPEAKER_00]: After that Wednesday show, a couple of days off, and then, we'll move on to another day to recap all four of those shows.
01:24:59.468 --> 01:25:00.008
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
01:25:00.188 --> 01:25:05.612
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm super excited, Stephen, because my wife is going out of town for like Saturday through Wednesday.
01:25:05.792 --> 01:25:07.794
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm just at home.
01:25:07.814 --> 01:25:08.915
[SPEAKER_01]: I can watch it.
01:25:09.275 --> 01:25:12.978
[SPEAKER_01]: I can wake up at 430 in the morning and turn on this show.
01:25:14.133 --> 01:25:28.769
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm not going to bother anybody and honestly kind of kind of, kind of, kind of, kind of, kind of, kind of, kind of, kind of, I don't know if you saw a Sunday because it is an afternoon show I believe that that's just flat out Saturday night for me, not Saturday night.
01:25:29.329 --> 01:25:33.714
[SPEAKER_01]: Hey guys, I'm super, I'm super interesting on a Saturday night at 10 o'clock.
01:25:34.034 --> 01:25:35.216
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's put on some New Japan.
01:25:35.516 --> 01:25:36.337
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's party.
01:25:36.625 --> 01:25:38.305
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, we are going to be here at the house.
01:25:38.345 --> 01:25:42.587
[SPEAKER_00]: We will be cleaning up all day Saturday because we're hosting a World Cup finalist party.
01:25:42.787 --> 01:25:45.427
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I have a lot of people over there.
01:25:46.107 --> 01:25:50.969
[SPEAKER_00]: And, oh, and Brad says Walker will call some of the five star ground pre-shows live this year.
01:25:51.149 --> 01:25:51.389
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
01:25:52.409 --> 01:25:56.690
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, the funny thing is he's usually better on start and then he is on New Japan for a lot of him.
01:25:56.850 --> 01:25:59.171
[SPEAKER_00]: So I think he's more of a fan of start and then he has New Japan.
01:25:59.191 --> 01:25:59.991
[SPEAKER_00]: So I was like, he isn't
01:26:00.672 --> 01:26:08.898
[SPEAKER_01]: Or it's better prepared either way, but you know, in some of that, but, you know, the, the five start around pretty starting should be fastening.
01:26:08.918 --> 01:26:11.540
[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to find out that they have an X as well.
01:26:11.660 --> 01:26:15.723
[SPEAKER_00]: They've, they have a mystery participant that we'll find out soon.
01:26:16.423 --> 01:26:17.584
[SPEAKER_01]: Didn't they have an out to that?
01:26:18.365 --> 01:26:20.586
[SPEAKER_00]: They probably did, but I've been preparing for this one.
01:26:23.749 --> 01:26:24.250
[SPEAKER_00]: Good choice.
01:26:24.310 --> 01:26:27.195
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, they, and a J came over and it helped her a lot.
01:26:27.436 --> 01:26:29.399
[SPEAKER_00]: And so I think that's healthy spot for Julia.
01:26:29.540 --> 01:26:32.805
[SPEAKER_01]: Go, go did be briefly get injured and had to bow out.
01:26:32.825 --> 01:26:34.248
[SPEAKER_01]: Somebody somebody mentioned that to me.
01:26:34.388 --> 01:26:34.669
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
01:26:34.809 --> 01:26:35.069
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
01:26:35.170 --> 01:26:35.630
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.
01:26:36.855 --> 01:26:39.177
[SPEAKER_00]: sad to say that that he'll turn and things.
01:26:39.678 --> 01:26:43.221
[SPEAKER_00]: I like being be as a little bit like my female Jake Lee.
01:26:43.241 --> 01:26:46.144
[SPEAKER_00]: There are a lot of people that that she's divisive sometimes.
01:26:46.164 --> 01:26:48.266
[SPEAKER_00]: There's some people like being some people that don't I do.
01:26:48.947 --> 01:26:53.251
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm disappointed that she's not going to be in a But Julia Hart is a good choice.
01:26:54.572 --> 01:26:58.896
[SPEAKER_00]: That's some that's an opportunity for Julia to really sharpen up a little bit.
01:26:59.096 --> 01:27:00.458
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, completely on that today.
01:27:01.095 --> 01:27:12.493
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because working with the caliber of workers that are in the five-star ground pretty, that's only going to help Julia, who's a talented woman who she should be doing, who needs reps. Yeah, talented woman who needs reps against top wrestler, she's going to get it.
01:27:13.495 --> 01:27:14.977
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, exactly what she needs to be doing.
01:27:15.478 --> 01:27:16.219
[SPEAKER_01]: Hold on for that.
01:27:17.163 --> 01:27:27.410
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, in the coming weeks, by the way, with travel and everything else is going on, wasn't this week was not the week to begin it, but we will be taking you look at the career of here, Tensau.
01:27:27.850 --> 01:27:28.390
[SPEAKER_00]: That's great.
01:27:28.651 --> 01:27:33.794
[SPEAKER_00]: As his run comes to an end, we'll give him the Tiger Mask and Tana Hashie treatment.
01:27:34.735 --> 01:27:37.656
[SPEAKER_00]: So we'll be taking you look at his career as we move along as well.
01:27:37.777 --> 01:27:39.057
[SPEAKER_00]: So look forward to that.
01:27:39.698 --> 01:27:41.319
[SPEAKER_00]: And of course next week, we'll have four.
01:27:41.399 --> 01:27:42.720
[SPEAKER_00]: G1 shows to talk about.
01:27:43.180 --> 01:27:44.040
[SPEAKER_00]: and more to preview.
01:27:44.060 --> 01:27:48.981
[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to get into the heart of the G1 schedule when we come back next Thursday.
01:27:49.882 --> 01:27:51.482
[SPEAKER_01]: Man, we've got all that done in 90 minutes.
01:27:51.662 --> 01:27:52.402
[SPEAKER_01]: Kind of impressed.
01:27:53.002 --> 01:27:53.362
[SPEAKER_00]: I know.
01:27:54.142 --> 01:27:57.223
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, but with that in mind, I want to say thank you to everybody who joined us live.
01:27:57.243 --> 01:28:02.964
[SPEAKER_00]: Brad, good to see you, good to see Jeremy or here for netozyas was with us, real early pod, war hero.
01:28:04.065 --> 01:28:05.585
[SPEAKER_00]: We really appreciate everybody here.
01:28:05.605 --> 01:28:06.665
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sorry if I missed anybody.
01:28:06.685 --> 01:28:08.226
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think all ring of elite was in here too.
01:28:08.266 --> 01:28:08.666
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, thanks.
01:28:10.186 --> 01:28:16.229
[SPEAKER_00]: And if you're listening to us later or watching us later on YouTube, we're really grateful for your time and look forward to it.
01:28:16.289 --> 01:28:18.170
[SPEAKER_00]: And if you see us in a show sometime come up to say hi.
01:28:18.190 --> 01:28:20.671
[SPEAKER_00]: It was really cool talking to some people who are fans of the show.
01:28:21.112 --> 01:28:22.072
[SPEAKER_00]: I really enjoyed that.
01:28:22.092 --> 01:28:23.373
[SPEAKER_00]: It was good to get to meet you guys.
01:28:23.393 --> 01:28:25.414
[SPEAKER_00]: So let's do some more of that.
01:28:25.574 --> 01:28:26.554
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'll be in Japan.
01:28:26.695 --> 01:28:29.056
[SPEAKER_00]: So hey, if you see me at the dome somewhere, say hi.
01:28:30.296 --> 01:28:32.758
[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, we'll be back next Thursday to see how.
01:28:33.458 --> 01:28:35.900
[SPEAKER_00]: This G1 climax is a developing.
01:28:35.980 --> 01:28:39.502
[SPEAKER_00]: So with we'll be back with that and don't forget power bombshells.
01:28:39.562 --> 01:28:40.843
[SPEAKER_00]: They'll be back on Sunday there.
01:28:40.903 --> 01:28:43.765
[SPEAKER_00]: They were traveling close to Chicago, but though we back on their show.
01:28:44.145 --> 01:28:48.328
[SPEAKER_00]: The dynamite show getting ready that big run down will be tomorrow.
01:28:48.348 --> 01:28:50.749
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to jump on them to talk about G1 stuff.
01:28:50.769 --> 01:28:51.310
[SPEAKER_01]: Look at it.
01:29:02.702 --> 01:29:03.502
[SPEAKER_01]: No, I should pop on.
01:29:03.542 --> 01:29:04.243
[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, no.
01:29:04.323 --> 01:29:05.223
[SPEAKER_01]: No, no.
01:29:05.243 --> 01:29:05.643
[SPEAKER_00]: He doesn't.
01:29:05.683 --> 01:29:09.745
[SPEAKER_01]: He's jumping on there with some G1 tips and stuff to look out for.
01:29:10.226 --> 01:29:12.487
[SPEAKER_00]: Dynamite show would be interesting, too, as they build up to Wembley.
01:29:12.667 --> 01:29:16.448
[SPEAKER_00]: So they've got a lot of work to do to get to Wembley and they have time.
01:29:16.488 --> 01:29:18.529
[SPEAKER_00]: They've got about, but only, you know, they only got about a month.
01:29:18.549 --> 01:29:20.030
[SPEAKER_00]: So things are going to be ramping up for that.
01:29:20.110 --> 01:29:21.851
[SPEAKER_00]: So that'll, that'll be worth listening to as well.
01:29:22.051 --> 01:29:23.252
[SPEAKER_00]: If I gave media, we got you covered.
01:29:24.012 --> 01:29:24.392
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
01:29:24.412 --> 01:29:25.132
[SPEAKER_01]: Look at out here, buddy.
01:29:25.873 --> 01:29:26.453
[SPEAKER_01]: For Jerry, fine.
01:29:26.473 --> 01:29:27.574
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm Stephen Conway.
01:29:27.594 --> 01:29:28.914
[SPEAKER_00]: This has been speaking of strong style.
01:29:28.934 --> 01:29:30.415
[SPEAKER_00]: We'll talk to you all again, real soon.