Blue Justice XIX Preview Plus Ospreay's AEW Title Win | Speaking of Strong Style

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[SPEAKER_00]: New Japan pro wrestling is back in action this weekend.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to take a look at both the shows that are coming up, and we're also going to look back at one house show that's already taking place.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to do a little young lion round up and see what our boys brought are doing in their excursions.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're also going to take a look at any new Japan adjacent content that took place over all in weekend Jeremy's going to help us out with that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Interesting week, really, considering there haven't been any shows on NJPW World, still planning to talk about.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So with Jeremy Feinstein, I'm Stephen Conway, this is Speaking of Strong Style.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Welcome everyone to Speaking of Strong Style.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We discussed the news, issues and events surrounding New Japan pro wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Busy weekend for pro wrestling outside of the New Japan company anyway.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There was a lot going on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It just not always with New Japan shows.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There was one of the 30th we'll talk about, but all in and Wembley had a lot of New Japan

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[SPEAKER_00]: Jason content as I mentioned intro there were well there was a certain person that is a big part of New Japan pro wrestling became the World Heavyweight Champion of AEW there and there were a couple of other sightings anyway on the peripheral of New Japan guys but yeah well Jeremy first of all how have you been?

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[SPEAKER_00]: How was your week?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I hope you're doing okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What's happening?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm doing I'm doing fine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Today was one of those days where I seriously missed manage my time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I came reaching into the room at 230 on the dot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm ready to go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's do this with too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm ready to go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're like the rundown.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so here we are.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It feels like the week just kind of

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[SPEAKER_01]: creeped up on me with no new Japan.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just they're a lot of stuff growing on because yeah I'm no ready to talk about new Japan.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm ready to talk about AEW because there are a lot of stuff with that world title that kind of happened this past week that I'm not even sure you know about because you're not one that follows AEW all that much.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, no, it's, we'll get into all of that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to say one thing about a viewer of ours and the listeners.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Come, Colin Matthew, who is one of the originals.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, going back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We've done what 235 episodes now, and it's not all of them are our were YouTube, some of them are just podcasts, some of them are both, some of them were.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We've gone through some iterations of the show, but Colin was one of the earliest regular,

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[SPEAKER_00]: viewers and listeners, and when he is able to join us live, he always contributes something interesting and intelligent.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We've got to be worried because he did path 10th there, and I was like, wait, well, he is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, no, pardon me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's not able to join us live, like you used to.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Fortunately, that's one thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Collins had some health issues.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he buddy wrote into us to the YouTube comments as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he let us know that he was okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that we met, we missed a column as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to hope that your health issues are being handled and that you're doing as well as you possibly can under the circumstances.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're glad you're still there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're happy to hear from you, and I'm grateful to have you along.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's a, I believe he's a Scotland.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's a Ranger's fan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know he's Ranger's fan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't mean the mix of strangers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean the football team from Glasgow.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, you know,

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[SPEAKER_01]: He uh, he calmed down on our YouTube page a lot and when it is, it's always like nice to see, you know, like, I think it's going to be kind of one of our writer diers, you know, like we got him, I got a Jeremy or a couple others, uh, I apologize if I didn't shout you out, so there's there are a bunch for an end as I assume.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I ran into some of the guys that that kick in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, come to the drive by YouTube commenter if that I like to see you just checking in.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Marine aggressive LSIS, she's also on here a lot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's War Hero, a couple of the war heroes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Brad drives us when he can.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, he works so well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So a lot full of you to mention him, a big up to Colin, wish him all the best.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we'll see you when we see him, man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I hope you're doing okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And most importantly, I mentioned at the end of the show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to mention at the beginning of the show here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're just grateful that you spent part of your week with us.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That means a lot to us.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's something that I think about a lot when I'm doing research for the show is

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[SPEAKER_00]: just thinking about the people who have so many choices of things to do and things to watch.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they choose to spend some of it with the two of us talking about this this little weird corner of the pro wrestling industry that we love.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's an honor.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's an honor and it's much appreciated.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not going to lie.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There are a lot of people that have mentioned they looked into my show, our show, because you're here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll say our show, but like I'll say my show and I'm

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[SPEAKER_00]: And like true like you're out there and it's it's my show unless you're here unless you can hear me That's right, right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so Garc show while you're here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're talking about it but

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[SPEAKER_01]: I still get a kick out of the fact that people actually just listen to us, like honestly like it's so flattering to me that people choose us to listen to and I don't take it for granted.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I want to be able to come in here every Thursday or like every weekend for all the other shows that I'll do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I want to give like my best stock, my best opinions and if I get it wrong, I hope I get a little bit of grace, but at least don't own it, you know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like the air will stuff, I owed it, you know, I didn't work out for me, but I felt like the phone for what I was thinking.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, yeah, I'm just, I'm very grateful and very thankful for the people that have joined us in the beginning, joined us along the way, listen to us for a little bit, decided it wasn't for us, just thank you for the opportunity, just thank you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, yeah, I agree.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Jeremy or one of our regulars is here with us.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he mentioned this congratulations to Will Osprey for winning the AEW title, pretty cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I have caught up with a startup that's been one of my goals.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I caught up with several other companies, Jeremy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I am now current on startup.

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[SPEAKER_00]: through the five-star Grand Prix.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I am now current on Murray Gold, is their tournament is beginning, the dream star Grand Prix, that that's just getting rolling.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Only a couple of shows on that yet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm current on CMLL.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think I'm doing all right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I need to get up to date with Algepan and there was a really good Sendeye girl show over the weekend that I need to catch up on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I'm getting there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm getting there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This little break, post the G1 climax, is allowed me to catch up on on the other Japanese companies.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I follow.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we're going to talk a little bit about CMLL later, because there's a really zero effort to catch up on WWE, none whatsoever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I did make sure I watched everything for AEW before AEW all in, and I watched time, which in hindsight, and that would be kind of important for the show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm glad that I watched the dynamite all the way through, because I'm not going to lie to you guys on a Wednesday night.

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[SPEAKER_01]: When it starts hitting like two hours and 15 minutes, the show's supposed to edit two hours, I'm done.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I got another stuff to do, and I'll catch up to it later, but we went two hours and 25 minutes yesterday, but the main event was involved, I believe, sick people that were at Wrestle Kingdom Wrestling each other.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So there were a number of AEW slash New Japan

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, one of the things I'm proud of about this show is that a solid 30 to 40% each week come from outside North America.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so not everyone can see AEW consistently and cleanly so if we're internationally beloved.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you wouldn't mind, could you catch us up a little bit on some of the things from AEW that involve New Japan talent or people who are regularly on big shows for New Japan and what they did anything that you think might affect things going forward to New Japan?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, what did you see this week that might be relevant to New Japan for a wrestle?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, did the whole, did it, did it, did it, did it, did it, did the flashback sound and hand gestures.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We go back to Repro on Saturday night where we'll all spray.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was not book for this show, but he ended up being a surprise and he wrestled on the show, but the real angle with afterwards, where he asked Call of Newman to join him and second him for his title match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we talked about this, whether it would be, whether he would be there or not.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And

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[SPEAKER_01]: There was a little bit drama talent was going to walk away in the ring, but then he agreed and they hugged and that set the stage for the main event of a W all in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Steven, have you heard anything about this made of that?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Anything?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, exactly what you would think it's going to be.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's two guys that are doing every move on planet Earth, like I think of.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm sure there were, now I'm sure there were a couple of dozen kickouts of finishing moves and everything else.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Did he kick?

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[SPEAKER_00]: My question.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Did he kick out of the one-winged angel?

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[SPEAKER_00]: He was the first guy to kick out of the one-winged angel and he died no, how long?

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[SPEAKER_01]: God, I was not.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I wish you could bet on things like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Why is that on?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that was like, we'll offer him to be the guy from the next 10 years and Kenny Omega was the guy for the last 10 years.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that was basically the whole thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was the way he wrestles in and the last thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, yeah, you know, like the plan, the plan, if we'll offer him to be the next one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Get Kenny Omega in the ring when he can't because the guy severely injures himself every third match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, this was an actual wrestling, just like they, it wasn't, of course it wasn't, it wasn't.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't flippy do all that stuff kind of thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This was legitimately like, we're going to make Will Off spray the biggest star in the world.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that was the mission statement of this match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Big of star in AEW is no, they were going to try and make them the biggest star in the world.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was the right to make him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so that, they're gold when they went into this match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to make you the biggest star in the world.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Whether they did or not.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So nobody knows.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was the mission statement.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was a fantastic match, even.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure it was.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There are, there are three matches right now that could be number one for me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: In 2020, so that's the Todd O'Hashio kind of match at the OUA UUA, UUA, we're a match at it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And mass versus mass, the Americano, this is pretty great, too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't even remember it as much like at this point.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like it was for the moment at its time, great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It probably taught five, but

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, the presentation of this match from the ring entrance to the end will some of the best of you're ever going to see.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They did a seven minute opening for Will and Will ask for his entrance and he starts and the back and he starts to walk.

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[SPEAKER_01]: When he's walking down the first person he walks past is that saber juice.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, and the next person that he passes over to Shay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He passes

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[SPEAKER_01]: He then passes, I believe, one of the other guys that he passes is Slurf Strickland.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, he embraces his wife.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He, you start walking up to the ring and the United Empire has a jacket ready and they put it on all the while, the who's teenage wasteland is playing in the background.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then he gets up to the ramp and he starts walking up to the ramp.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Mark Davis and Kyle Fletcher from oxy open are there like walking to warrant him as if they're going to block his path.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then they both just kind of park sees and just give him the nod and then keep walking and he walking all the way to the ring.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And John Monkley's waiting for him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right before he goes out, and he has the British flag, and he has tassels on top of the British flag of all the names of the people that will walk to this life.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That kind of thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just just the whole thing, and then man,

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[SPEAKER_01]: his music come out you get you get the decibel pop i guess the report was that uh sustained found at that level is damaging to your ears so that was that was the pop in one blie for that one uh can you omega had his uh video montage as well there was a video montage with wall spray for the self started to where it mutton mother narrated it

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was just, it was a fantastic package where you're just like, shit, this is a plus stuff and they did the same thing with Kenny where they just showed his journey to get to that point.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He come out, he just looked like the final boss of all final bosses.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, you're not getting past me kind of thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Then Kenny have to walk past the gauntlet of his surgeons over the years.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, nothing like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But you have to have, I appreciate that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But no, you have to have really walking down there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I believe his gear was my hero academia.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, no, kidding.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm actually watching that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was what he believed he mentioned afterwards.

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[SPEAKER_00]: See, Madoria, maybe.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Baby, I don't know much about my hero academia.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, I'm sorry.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm getting you're getting sidetracked.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Go ahead.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're all good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so you had the video montage.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You had the walk to the ring.

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[SPEAKER_01]: which was, you're not good enough to beat me and will prove that he was.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he kicked out of the one-way an angel to a massive pop.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think we all kind of knew that that was something for the day that Kenny Omega wanted to gift that to somebody.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was going to be a real big deal.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll spray hit and hit and blade and Kenny Omega kicked out at one, which I know you love.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You then will fold up with a storm breaker and then another hit and blade for the one, two, three and the place just when I'm glued.

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[SPEAKER_01]: he held the title of the screen with the black and I guess they went back live on the air without actually broadcast but like they had to flip and it was Kenny and Will on the ring and Kenny's crying and they were gonna shake hands and Will throws the belt down and give Kenny a hug

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[SPEAKER_01]: Shitman, it was, it was the best AEW presentation of the match, I think I've ever seen, and I think they managed to hit a massive home run in the presentation of Will Offspray of Kenny Omega.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And now they're two two and they could run it back one more time or they could remain even for the rest of time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so that was how all in and did Mercedes Monet also won the AEW Women's World Championship, which made for the only person.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Only woman in history to have resident Wembley, the Tokyo Dom, Arena Metico, and Madison Square Garden, in addition to having the world title for each of those promotions.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Mm, okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No one else has ever done that before.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that was one of those records that she hit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She had the IWGP title and the strong title at one point.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So she got that one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, then we got to dynamite and we'll offer a came out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They did a whole video packages.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The entire show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Great stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll came out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He did a celebration and then Ricochet, the demand, Gabe Kidding Cartconters come out and they basically both take a claim to challenging.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll offer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you see and they believe like, oh, you're all by yourself.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is easy picking the United Empire come out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You send R. A. Akira and Calvin Newman.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and they've got it back and they plan a 5 on 5.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But if you figure it out, there's only four people in the United Empire at this point.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Could we get to a backstage segment, a few minute later, and this is the interesting one right here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Will is asked by the interviewer, do you have a fifth person?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he's like, well, you know, I'd like to expand the United Empire into AEW.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Kyle was like, well, I was like, well, I don't need, and will just be bugs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't need your permission to do that little brother.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so he, he will brother him on AEW Dynamite.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So these are the kind of things that they're, that they're kind of setting up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I wish they would do this in New Japan, but it is what it is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Calvin says, don't worry.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've got a fifth guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's been with the United Empire before.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that moment, the door open and then draw they walk through.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Ronnie also just won a contract for a World Title match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So he's both a teammate of Osprey on United Empire.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he's got this World Title match in his back pocket.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So this is the tension going into the end of the night.

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[SPEAKER_01]: the five have never wrestled with each other.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They end up winning the match, off-brain beats Quark Conner with Hinblade, Calminuminal, fantastic in the match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But at the very end, off-brain and drottie shake hands.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're on the same page.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then Gabe Kidd get involved with Andrade, so they're going to split off into their own thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And off-brain then, uh,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Get jumped by Gabe Kim, he's going to get taken out, but the death writers come out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Malkley stopped Gabe Kim from doing it, and he lifts off-branth and while they're standing in the middle of the ring, the psychopath's Tony Kahn announced is that the all-out paperview made event is now going to be John Malkley, first as well off-spray for the AEW World title, because John Malkley won the Continental Cup.

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[SPEAKER_01]: at the pay for view.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So now we'll off-frame in his bid to be the come-to-guy has to beat both Kenny Omega and John Mothley right out the gate in World Title and his senses.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Which you know, honesty, if you're going to book him to be the guy, that's what you have to do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, book him against the top guy and he has to win.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There you go folks, Jeremy finds someone watching, so we don't have to.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we definitely appreciate that very, very much.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, I struggle to describe whether you're reactive, cap it or do the off to the team.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Look, I say the whole thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Tony Khan knows who's going to have a good match against him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he can put together good paper view cards.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Agreed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: his TV shows are dumps hard to get to it and and and and the fans know that because no one goes to on I thought they think that you see that these things like that 2000 tickets distributed and they're ain't that that's a difference between distributed and sold like everyone knows that this absolute trash TV and it's people don't go to it but the pay per views they know that it doesn't matter what happens on the TV show because the pay per view is going to be good and that's

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what they said.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They got in Wembley.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They probably got about 30, 35,000 or something actually sold in the month.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've only just had the time at the end, but they paper the living hell out of that though to get it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if they paper the living hell out of that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They paper the living hell out of that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But the thing is, they know that at least the paper view will be good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You don't have to watch the track on Wednesday and Saturday.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And actually, you know, so, all right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, you know, we're here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mentioned boxes looking at will like he's a son.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That whole, that whole plot line right there is the most ass-in-ine thing in the world.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is like, let's go to the guy that injured me for the year and beg him to, can you make me not a loser, please, sir?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then just, that's your top baby face now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he still needs help.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He just constantly is too weak to handle things himself.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He just constantly needs help.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Never mind.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The matches will be good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure the match was great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure it was.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Those two will put on a great match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, all right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's get away from any W quickly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But Dreadzone does mention this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He says as a Brit who remembers 1992 at Wembley Dammit Rock.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Not my kind of wrestling these days, though we were and we more afresh in my mind.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But what a mind blowing entrance and closing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure that all completely on point.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it took it to the paper views are good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's a lot of good wrestling on those shows.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, I imagine what it would be like if you didn't like to be caught.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't have anything against Tony.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Here's always been my issue with AEW.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is that it could be so much better than it is if they were just like go a little bit because

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[SPEAKER_00]: highly structured, regimented, could they systemically.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You are just a cog in the machine and it has a limit to how good it can be because of the way it's structured.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're gonna find out soon if there's a floor because right now it's pretty awful and it's boring and I'm talking to WWE now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just slow plotting, boring.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They have really good wrestlers in WWE.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They just don't let them do much of anything.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, sometimes on PLAs, they let them loose a little bit, but even PLAs are doing like four match shows and say they're just trying to do as little as humanly possible to keep these all these commitments up to date, AEW has none of those birds.

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[SPEAKER_00]: None of that institutional weight upon it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, it would take years to unravel the layers of corporate dribble that has weighed WWE down to this point, to this system.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it would take a long time to erase all that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: AEW has none of that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they barf out television like they have been.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just so disappointing all the time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's, it's,

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[SPEAKER_00]: non-sensical, and it's poorly thought out, and it's poorly executed, and my God, it's just all of this stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just have to listen to it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and tell you what this is, well, that's somebody else booked this stuff, you know, but Tony Khan wants to play with his wrestling figures, and so he has a company where he can play with his wrestling figures, and that's what it is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what AEW is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Tony Khan playing with his wrestling figures, so they're all except the real people because he has dance money.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so that's how we're doing this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not okay for Tony to do this and not book the whole

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[SPEAKER_00]: because he's been a fan, he's been fantasy cooking and seeing what's a kid.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he's out of ideas and the ideas he has make no sense.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They get no one over and and yet it's never going to really change because he's not going to let go because that's the fun part for him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The rest of it is just other stuff he has to do so that he can write a TV show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't necessarily know that he's out of ideas, but it's just it's out of got to come up with, you've got to come up with four hours of programming that it got to be compelling and unfortunately the way that New Japan and Japanese television does it where they can just do these shows and then air it and call it a day, it's just not going to work.

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[SPEAKER_01]: state side and in Western wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I get what you're saying, but I think if you're coming in with the idea that you're not really always going to get the best stuff on television, you used to get really great stuff all the time, but you have to deal with the injuries of these guys killing them, killing themselves the week after coming back from the paper because some of these

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[SPEAKER_01]: There is no reason why they should have been wrestling on WebStaymen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Here they are just killing themselves again, and he's got to go with the people that will draw.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's got to go with the stories that will work, and he's got to go with the stars that can wrestle, and so I think for all of the juggling that he has to do, I would definitely give him

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[SPEAKER_01]: above baseline acceptable for for the programming that he does, you know, like it's never going to be great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's never going to be great all the time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's never going to be four hours, like holy, holy, every four hours, every, every week, like you're getting the best stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, Walker Stewart, for an example, just debuted on collision this this yesterday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so he could be there

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[SPEAKER_01]: just to make sure that like I kind of pick up whether the field of walker is, you know, kicking the times, or if this seems like this is the new gig for walker.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, you know, quite as you know, you're kicking the tires on him, you mean?

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what he's he's he's commentating collision.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like going forward, that's that he's the new commentator.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what I've been told is that they brought him on and he was the new guy on collision.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so who is the old guy on close?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, he had Nigel and he's probably hurt from his injury.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's Kevin Kelly at one point

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[SPEAKER_00]: Kevin Kelly, Kevin Kelly, Kevin Kelly himself out of that job.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they're there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're the, you guys from Ring of Honor, that he'll give you a bunnies to actually give you a bunnies.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Tony Shavani will be all there from time to time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You just have a commentator anymore, he's a shadow, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so they need a more stable core, but I'm pretty sure it's Shavani and Nigel.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh-huh.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was I, as I was asking a question, he says, since when do stars need to take days off after pay per view shows?

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[SPEAKER_00]: When they're injured, since this, the whole thing in AEW, they only wrestle once a week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So they murder each other in the ring, doing all everything in the world.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So they do match, because they don't have to do these matches every night, they kill each other in the match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so they need time to heal after all these big matches, because in the territory days,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Territory days, what went into the 2000s, by the way, when WWE had full house show schedules, you couldn't do everything in every match, like AEW does.

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[SPEAKER_00]: With the huge moves and the falling off of tall things and splattering each other with objects and stuff like that, you couldn't do that because you had to do five matches that week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And now they only have to do one match a week,

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[SPEAKER_00]: So they absolutely kill each other, knowing they have a couple of weeks to heal up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's just a different, it's a different business than it was when these were touring live events companies.

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[SPEAKER_00]: These are now television shows that have live studio audiences, essentially.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, you no longer have these guys going from town to town, wrestling the smarts of getting them over to every crowd.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then by the time the TV's on, they're huge.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, don't listen to the noise that's going on right now about whether Omega and Osprey were better than Flair and steamboat, they're doing totally different things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: When Flair and steamboat wrestling each other, they had to do it every single night all the way around the horn and a territory.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And will and Kenny didn't have to do that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So will and Kenny could have something that was more spectacular.

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[SPEAKER_00]: because they have time off and they can heal whereas Rick and Rick had to get up and do that again tomorrow.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's a whole different mindset.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a whole different business.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And right now, all the money comes from these TV programs back then.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The TV program didn't make any money for the companies except in a couple of very rare exceptions.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was all a live ticket business.

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[SPEAKER_00]: More like New Japan is where it's all about the turn style and selling tickets to shows.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're seeing now that buying tickets is a nice little ancillary income, but these companies survive on their television contracts.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a whole different business.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So all that stuff like compare this to that, it's useless.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It is a completely different industry that was when they were doing house shopping.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The metric and how you could see it or completely different, it's just that day.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you know how this steamboat flair thing came

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I mean, but every single time there's no management, you'd literally know how it came about this time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just know that everything that is a great match gets compared to Flared steamboat, but that's serious.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, it's true.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know who the area's record is?

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[SPEAKER_00]: From Hoodie in the Wolfish.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He literally went on Twitter and said, yeah, good at all, but if no Flared steamboat.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, I personally I agree, but that's my that was my wrestling that I fell in love with.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's always going to be my favorite, but number one and about a flare real quick here and would give you a warning here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're a half hour into the show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we can do number one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is total old man shouting at the cloud energy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: to be like, it's walking and it's going to flare and steamboat.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And number two, I don't know about that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And over 45 years ago, we talked about Rick Flair and sadness tones because the way that he carries himself, like this is old man yelling at clouds ahead of energy and it just.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I, I'm sorry, he come off like a fucking door.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Wait, oh, yeah, Flair's goof, but it had, no, it's rocker.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, rocker?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, why?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because he liked that better when he was a kid.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He comes on there and he wmed to finger to everybody who either seen Flair and steamboat, hasn't seen Flair and steamboat, have seen Kenny Omega or hasn't seen Kenny Omega and will.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And received to just talk down to everyone as if you like this expert on all wrestling, like I was there and you weren't.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then he got people, they're like, I was there too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and what you're saying is it right and it's just one of those he doesn't come out and he doesn't talk about wrestling all the sudden and all of a sudden we're all like losing our minds because there is rucker of who do you in the blowfish said that a match of 45 years ago was better than the one he wants and I'm just like

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[SPEAKER_00]: stop.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We've already spent more time on this than it needs to, but I know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's what I'm saying is it's silly to compare.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's, it's, it's all a subjective thing is to what you like better.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And a lot of people my age, because that's what, that's how they fell in love with wrestling was watching that stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So nothing's ever going to beat that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's why you got into this whole thing to begin with.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, but another people are the other one you like talk down to the rest of the

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[SPEAKER_01]: Bro, you look like you've got your head up your own ass when you talk about it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But let's see, Warhero thinks who should be in the United Empire of America?

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was Fernandez-Ias and we're here saying Garcia and Yuda will join and could join so can also open.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you're trying to lower the charisma quotient, Yuda and Garcia are a great choice, just bland people there, but you get to know your dragon often and have him join United Empire in the A, W, he'd bad, I could get behind.

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[SPEAKER_00]: he would be good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: When I saw Wheeler Yuda in New Japan, when he came over for the finals of the G1 climax and he's over there standing across from Drillamologian.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was laughing because he's got that's beard now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The patched beard.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He looked like a young lion.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Wheeler?

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[SPEAKER_00]: What I thought when I saw Wheeler is he looks like a guy who finished fifth in a Drillamologian lookal I contested about.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's like he's like he's shorter.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's doughy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He doesn't have the physique.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's got kind of a beard, but it's not as good of a beard.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's just if you just kept making copies on a Xerox machine of drill him alone.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He over and over again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's like a six generation dog of drill him alone.

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[SPEAKER_00]: with none of the charisma talking about he like he's on a good day the fourth or fifth most important member yeah yeah and they're like three people that actually matter on those shows everybody else is interchangeable but that's the thing

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[SPEAKER_00]: Brodi do they're saying hey, and for and as I say Brett Hart versus Mr.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Perfect matches should get more love They were terrific together, but you know again, we're talking to the kids different but there were a lot of great rivalries over time We talked about Dory Functioner and Jack Brisco a little while ago and Dory Functioner died the matches are completely different than Flair and steamboat The Flair steamboat managed to completely different from this and the business is totally different.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So Whatever you enjoy Go watch it enjoy it enjoy the hell out of it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that's that's the whole point where here is just to have fun I think anyway, so

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[SPEAKER_01]: Cleared bread hard.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I made mention it, but I want to wrestling a shadow for the first time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, oh, that's a great document.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not a month ago.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Man, in hindsight, I don't think Brett comes off all that well and I talk to Henry.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's he's talking about the family man stuff afterward when turned out that he was not that much of a family man and all that stuff like there was definitely a narrative that he was trying to convey that

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[SPEAKER_01]: In hindsight, that part of it was simply, you know, a presentation for the audience, but that whole documentary is a presentation for the audience, even the WF stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's an interesting documentary.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It certainly gets into some points over there and they had cameras there during the screw job in Montreal.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I borrowed the DVD from Dave and then, or the Blue Ray from Dave and then I'm like, I guess I'll go to the commentary too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it basically just 90 minutes of them having a conversation and it has nothing to do with the company on the screen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's pretty good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Who's the, who's the, who's the, who's the, David, David and Brad.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, OK. All right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: David Brad are simply just having a conversation in the commentary of this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just like, OK, they're just, they're not even paying attention to the screen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, speaking of wrestlers going overseas, of course, there are a bunch of new Japan wrestlers going overseas to work for AEW there in England.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And there are a couple of young lions who are

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[SPEAKER_00]: with a new Japan, but are currently on their excursions.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I thought I would check in on them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We have some time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I thought I would see what Katsuyama Rashma and Shama Kata were doing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now I've been watching Kata because I watched the MLL.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I've been seeing a lot of his work.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we're gonna talk about that in a minute.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But Katsuyama Rashma, I was curious.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't really know what he was doing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I knew where he went.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I went and looked up what he's been up to.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So most of his time has been with WXW in Germany.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that is his home promotion.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he has been working there since he went off on excursion with little dabs for other smaller promotions around Europe, a WXW Rev Pro,

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[SPEAKER_00]: promotions that run regularly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then there are a lot more Jeremy that run once in a while, once a month, not enough to make a living, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we'll book guys off of the Rev pro roster, the WXW roster to fill out their cards.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's similar like PWG wasn't a full-time company.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know that you had to do other things, then work for PWG, and then you would come together and work PWG.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There are other companies like that in Europe that use these guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But

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[SPEAKER_00]: has been working for things like pro wrestling Holland, PWH.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's appeared for Red Pro.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's appeared for body slam pro in Denmark.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He was just there this past weekend and wrestled their champion for their top singles title.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Didn't win it, but he was brought in to wrestle their champion.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So these companies take him to say, he's mostly going over.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's not undefeated.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's not under feet, but he's mostly been going over as a very winning record in Europe, a very winning record, but that's a clumsy phrase, but his win-loss record is impressive.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he worked for a company called SAAJ in Italy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you know what SAAJ wrestling stands for?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I have no idea what SAAJ wrestling will stand for.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I haven't been waiting to say this though.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Squash or Jabber wrestling?

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[SPEAKER_00]: not the work name for a promotion in all not the worst not the worst works squashed in the past kind of kind of thinking of cut the box there that made me so happy when I read that as I say Jay what would I say Jay be I couldn't even think of a word involving rest but yeah squashed up a wrestling in uh it will be they do a few shows a year but they brought him in for that as so yeah and uh the most interesting match he was in a mixed tag where he teamed with

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, and the former amateur wrestler in the Japanese amateur and Olympic wrestling system, Jihiro Hashimoto, was in a mixed tag with Jihiro.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, that is what Marashima has been doing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, most of his time in Europe, a couple of trips to England, so, but hasn't really traveled too far out of that zone as of yet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Show Makata.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we talked about him before.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He is in CMLL, in a faction with Okamura and Yutani.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okamura and Yutani are the most demonios, summarized, the demon-samurized, it's a pretty cool team name.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they're Rudo's of course, they're doing the whole foreign heels thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, they've been in a clock to draw a wrestling tip.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, Mike, the thing with Cato,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Pretty cool costume now, putting a little bit of makeup on his face, Yutani does the same.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he is developing a really good heal personality that are in Japan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he is really doing well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, he's the young boy on that team.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you, Tony's been there a little bit longer.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You, Tony did not come through the New Japan Dojo system.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okamura did a long, Oka Mora came from, he went on excursion never went back, really.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He just, he likes it, Mexico, he lives in Mexico almost full time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's married to a Japanese former pro wrestler, Shimoda.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But he is a long term guy with CMLL.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's Okamura.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Of course, we see him during Fantasco,

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you, Tony, though, I believe went to Mexico to play soccer.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's Japanese, isn't went there and pursued a football career.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But when that didn't work out, got into pro wrestling and he's dynamite.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's really, really good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's exciting and he is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: probably a junior heavyweight.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I will say in Japan he'd be a junior and there is talk of New Japan bringing him in and he has mentioned that he would like to work for New Japan so far.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I hope they do because I think this guy is really, really talented, but Shomekado is doing well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's learning that Luchestyle, the tumbling, he's getting the personality work in and I think he's excelling there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now I

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[SPEAKER_00]: WXW, I don't get a chance to see as much Marashima to see how his work is going, but I think the fact that he is getting tidal shots says a little bit of something that the people like what he's doing there and are bringing him in to challenge their champion.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You wouldn't do that if you thought the guy was a slug.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm hoping I can get to see some of his matches, not a lot of that shows up on YouTube.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Some of it does once in a while.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But anyway, that's what the boys are doing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's very early in their excursions.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mentioned that Shoma is a young boy in that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So if they lose, he's usually the one that gets fed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, Marashima getting a little bit better when lost record.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But nevertheless, Shoma is showing up on more shows.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The companies that Marashima is working for in Europe don't run as frequently.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we're as, of course, CMLL is every night of the week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's a CMLL show someplace, and sometimes more than one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he has been on plenty of the Friday night shows at Arena Mexico.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's been on a lot of the shows in Arena Calacayo and Saturdays, Puebla, Monterey, Guadalajara.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's going around the CMLL circuit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that is, of course, a company that is absolutely on fire.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely on fire.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh god, and it's amazing how like they just can't stop being successful.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, it does seem that way they they they right now have the golden touch and

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[SPEAKER_00]: The anniversary show coming up in September, there's some startup presence on that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Antimeda, Mena Cherkawa, Starlight Kid, will be wrestling, Persephone, and Tessa Blanchard in a fatal four way for the women's time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So they just added a women's match to that anniversary show that has some Japan influence on it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Again, it's Bushy Road, so not New Japan anymore, but nevertheless, some of the people were from earlier with it there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Shoma is wrestling in front of tens of thousands every week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, they're getting 16,000 on a regular basis at Arena, Mexico, Arena, Calesia, which is also in Mexico City on Saturdays.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That ones doing about 5,000.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They go to Puebla and do 3 or 4,000 Guadaluras a few thousand.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Really, on weekends when there are no PLEs, more people are buying tickets to go CCMLL than any other company in the world.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's right now doing very, very well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he is wrestling well in front of a hell of a lot of people, which I got to think Jeremy is excellent, excellent experience for a young wine getting his feet wet outside the new Japan system.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think when he comes back, he's going to be set up for something like the house of torture or some like faction, something like that, like he's just, they're, they're curating something with him with the whole demon stuff that's going to come back and that stuff isn't just going to go away.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like they're not just going to erase that and then start up completely, they're, they're going to build from that and I'm curious where they go with that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You've been out of here as this road and he says, I've been, I've been to all those places you've been see that's boy that's a bucket list thing for me is to kind of go around the CMLO thing I just haven't had a real problem right there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It is, well, that's not a problem.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He passed on the humble part just brag.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think I just need to go to read a Mexico is the only one that I got left.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've been a one belief.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I haven't been a one belief.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've been a Madison Square garden.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've been.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've been to Wembley, I've been to Wembley, but not for it event.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've passed by it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if I don't count.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't think so either, but it's going to be good in my head.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then you're killing me on the bootcon hall thing that drives me up a wall.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't get to go to put a con hall.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not going to get to this year either.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going down there and they're not running it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So a little son of a gun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: For Anderson, he lived in Mexico as a kid.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, and War Heroes asks who's winning in Mexico, Triple A or CMLL.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll tell you one thing though, War Hero, they're both winning.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're both doing very, very well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: CMLL is a bigger deal, both in terms of attendance and in cultural relevance.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Mystico,

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'd say, Mystico is the number one baby face pro wrestler on planet Earth right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, no one is more relevant to their culture than Mystico is in Mexican culture and in terms of Lucia Libre.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I see MLL, it's the 93rd anniversary.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is ingrained and they've done a brilliant job of marketing themselves as something tourists do in Mexico City is to go to the Friday

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[SPEAKER_00]: the buses back and forth for free from the tourist hotels to shuttle people back and forth.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So if they want to go, they don't have to pay for parking or anything else.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Just hop on the bus, come to the CMLL, show by your ticket, go on it, and they've done a great job of making that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: thing because I'm here in Texas and I see people who take trips to Mexico City that have no connection to pro wrestling and more than one of them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know this is anecdotal more than evidential but more than one of them have drifted into a reemexico on Friday and posted stuff on their socials like this is so cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, not really knowing who any of the guys are, but just having fun watching the show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And

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[SPEAKER_00]: The other ones, I mentioned Arena Calasayo on Saturday, which is also in Mexico City.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They also run Arena Mexico on Sundays and Tuesday.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So four shows a week in Mexico City and self that are full.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the other shows are kind of more for the heart course.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Although there is a section of hardcore CML all fans that will get in on Fridays.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But there are still a lot of tourists that are just kind of drinking beer and owing and eyeing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's stuff that you haven't really.

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[SPEAKER_00]: watch before CMLL is done a wonderful job of making themselves into part of a trip to Mexico.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's pretty genius marketing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No one else has done that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No other company in the world has done that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Triple A, pretty hot right now, doing pretty well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But, uh, and they're about to have triple maniac and things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, uh, what?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Going into the cultural touchstone is pretty savvy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, and it takes a lot of time and it takes a lot of effort to do it, but they have put in the work.

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[SPEAKER_00]: over the years they put in the war and right now it does help Jeremy that my god this rosters phenomenal.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean if you just look there are 10 guys and CMLL that are just a thrill a second to watch.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The mascara de rada means to go still got it even as he's getting older he's got to be in his mid-40s now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Ultimate Guerrero's in his 50s and can still wrestle Barbara Cavanario and Neon.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's a lot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's a lot of guys, Zando-Con.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You remember Zando-Con when he was just a young guy trying to get on with a Wilson Gobernado way back when we had LHI?

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's a terrific heal now and he's going to, and he is going to be part of the Anniversary or show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So they've got a lot of depth and that helps tremendously as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So the one guys do go to Fantastic Mania or they go up to an AEW show or even

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[SPEAKER_00]: there's depth so that they still have really good wrestlers and big stars back home.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They just got it rolling right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's one of those beautiful periods they never last forever.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So if a company you like gets hot and joy the right, it won't last always, but right now, they're red hot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I wish that I was more into CML on AAA.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm into it like enough where I can keep up with it, but like for the new Japan, but I just feel like I'm squandering $10 if I do the $10 package, because I'm just not gonna catch it every Friday.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, a lot of it is, if you have time to watch it, if you're not doing that, then yeah, that's expensive, because you might see MLL, even that $10 tier where you don't get a lot of things, really, you just, you get, what do you get?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Tuesdays, and then you get the right information on a 10 day delay, it's not a lot, and yet it's more expensive than

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[SPEAKER_00]: Starter Worlds is expensive than NJPW World.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was more expensive than WWE.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Network for a lot of people.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They have got to think of us in a different price plan for this stuff because they're literally cockwalking themselves for more of an audience.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They seem to be doing fine though, and so I think if you bring it down 20 bucks like bacon 15 for just you can watch everything the next day Like you don't even know what the 15 for the next day

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're here was asking you know, what about crash wrestling?

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's still around.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's still around, but right now I would say that it's a solid third place third place with CMLL and triple A.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's see for an as ice triple A's the WWE of Mexico.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, they're owned by them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're owned by nobody.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Pretty accurate.

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[SPEAKER_00]: CMLL is larger, but yeah, there you go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's what the young lines are doing out there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And hopefully.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're staying healthy so far.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's always a danger getting hurt and missing that time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But we'll master watch, I've got very sick.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You got ill in Mexico, and had to miss a lot of time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And hopefully that doesn't happen to the boys and they can keep developing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I like both those guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I hope they're going to come back to Japan and Excel.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we're at 49 minutes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You want to get some road to show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, there was only one this week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I do want to go over this very quickly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was a house show, and not even on NJPW World.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought I was like, did I just show?

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, there was one on the river where the results got it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It happened.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And here's what it happened up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's see, must we ask the defeated Tyson, not Kahara, and the young lion matches are off.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Show and dokey beat, Mutsamoto and Desparado.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was the junior tag team match preview without Mystico.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And show beat, Mutsamoto, of course.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then you, you, you're more a Tahiti and Satoshi Kojima.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Beat Sanada, Rennerita and Dictogo.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You can guess who got pinned on that one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Aaron Wolf teamed up with Oleg Bolton and Master Watto and they beat Jose Fujida, Hartley Jackson and Rio Heo Wewa.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was when Oleg pinned Jackson.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And, of course, that's a bit of a preview for Wolf versus Fujida in the never open-weight match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Torriano, Tony Machabe and Jado, defeated the knockout brothers and ghetto when Yano pinned Gato.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The main event of this one,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Husby Shibon, so here I'll give you a go-to and Yoshihashi, teaming with yo, to be Shingo Takagi, Yoda Suji, and Dahi Kina Gai, and that was when go-to opened Nagai.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so that was the one house show this week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There are some roster changes coming in for what we are going to see this week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because looking ahead, we have two shows coming up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that in one is in,

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to make sure I get the name of the town exactly right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, here it is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: To Chi on Saturday, September 5th.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This one will be live in Japanese.

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[SPEAKER_00]: English will be added later.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So if you watch it same day, it'll probably be just in Japanese.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then English will be put together on demand in a few days from that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Show to Umano is back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Jeremy, we haven't seen him since.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We can go over the lineup, but any thoughts on anything you just heard, I have to say, as how shows go, it's exactly what you would expect.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If there's a title match coming up, there was a multi-person match with the champion on one side and their challenger on the other.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The cool, the cool print chalk, you know, like there isn't really anything exciting, the the big headline, they don't want to steal the headline from is real here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We still won the G1, and that's the, uh,

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's the thing that they're going to be focusing on hammering home and they're not really going to be a whole lot of hot angles until we pay all this stuff off with with OEW and all that kind of thing and we have three shows this week, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: We got the fifth, the sixth and the ninth.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, then we have, I'm going to say the fifth, though, I wanted to mention what they're doing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Shota is teaming with Yoshi Hashie and Matsumoto against Jacob Austin, Yon, Greido Khan and Henare.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, Henare coming back from England on that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Notice, it was notable by the way to me that Jake Lee, Greido Khan, those guys, the Japanese members of United Empire did not go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, the foreign United Empire guys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, you know, so it's a really if you create a condon bother to go or what's not asked.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I know which one I'm leaning toward.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not sure that invitation might have gotten lost in the email.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, well, let's go into a spam folder.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You didn't see it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, Gioca, I could have sworn I asked.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do I go to do I go to London and get paid extra or do I stay in Japan and my blog?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and so just looking at this one that Jeff, you know, I mentioned that Jeff Cobb is also going to be on the show too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's at him getting back in the swing of things and then blue justice is taking place from cheap old the main event, by the way, and to cheeky will be.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Water, yeah, water, Bolton, yo, and godo.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yo, the junior champion, godo, the heavyweight challenger against Suji, heavyweight champ, Ishimori, the junior heavyweight challenger, Robbie Axe and Dieti and a guy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That match should be terrific.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, this does combine the Champions of Challenges for the Heavyweight title and the Junior Heavyweight title.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So watch the Bolton, Yo, and Godo again, Suji, Ishimori, Robbie, X, and Daddyking and Guy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sure, at least we're going to get a heck of a good main event.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Cobb is actually teaming with Shingo Takagi against Zane J and Calam Numen and Takagi.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That would be fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, Blue Justice is Sunday from Chiba, as always.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is, using the God as home town, Chiba, and he promotes the Blue Justice shows there, and he does a heck of a job promoting these.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They usually get a really nice turnout, despite essentially a house show lineup with Nagata inserted into the main event somehow.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he made events on shows and it works that the people there are very into him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's still a big star in Chiba.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They appreciate him a lot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he has put himself in the main event of this one, teaming with Makabe and Yano against the knockout brothers in Dake in a guy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So again, this is the whole thing where Yano and Makabe are in a mini-few going with

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that negata, of course, has teamed with Machobaniano infections in the past, so he has that connection with them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then a lot of times, these blue just-to-shows are headline by House of Torture, just so they have that very clean heel

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[SPEAKER_00]: baby face dynamic in the main event.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's there's not much ambiguity.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It is using agatta and his friends against the forces of evil.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This one a little trickier because the knockout brothers are very popular.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so it'll be Megata, Makabe, Yano against knockout brothers and Daiting the guy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I do not like Daiting the guy's chances of surviving this match, Jeremy, what do you think?

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're going to get murdered.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Thanks so much.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're going to have a

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[SPEAKER_00]: And yes, I will also see yo goto, yo shihashi and wato against ishimori, suji, robi x and gato.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's another one where I would look out if I were gato.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I wouldn't put a whole lot of money on end.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Jeff Cobb will be in a singles match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a special singles match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Special for Zane J, who will be his opponent.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The over under five minutes on this one is,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just think that he's going to get a world tour of the island very quickly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think Sanjay is being fed to Jeff Cobb was, I mean, I could feel like a chop block and then he's got to kind of come back from behind and overcome, you know, Sanjay cheating to try and beat him, but this is a Jeff Cobb tune on that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, and it's going to be Jeff Cobb reminding everybody of all the cool stuff he does

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, that's cheaper.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so that I mean, that's what we have to look forward to this week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It is a fairly straightforward week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm taking a look at the schedule.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I do believe that there is the road to discretion on September 9th, the Cork and Hall, and then actually another one Jeremy two nights a Cork and Hall before we come back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, on the knife.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that Thursday show we're going to have to cover two.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they're both in Corican.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So they have a little bit of steam behind them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The first one, a little bit less.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So the main event is, uh, you know, is straight up champions versus challengers, if you Mori and Suji versus yo and go to should be a terrific match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Another one that ought to be pretty good is the semi-main, that's Bolton and Wato against Robbie X and Shingo Takagi, so more Robbie X, please, and another one that ought to be pretty good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The score can show has a good line up to the fifth match, so second, second from the top, I guess third from the top of the day.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It'll be third from the last, but it's Taiji,

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's very similar to the main event on the tenth, which is KHE and Aaron Wolfers' food here at O'WeeWa.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so there's these types of matches coming up, but they have filtered out the young lions and the shadows and getos, and we're just with the better wrestlers and these.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're just in the line up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, there are diking a guy in Jeff Cobb against Zayn J.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Kalam Newman.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Those are four pretty good workers right there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Shaman reference to Kagi and Suji, if it's on my main on the 10th.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's, well, yeah, and that's not normal.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The other thing I want to mention on Wednesday, September 9th, this is our debut for our new young lion, Yushin Hadesawa, and he will be wrestling Tetsuya Matsumoto, so it is Hadesawa's debut on Wednesday, September 9th.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So the first of the two nights at Korakon Hall will be the young lions debut, and he will wrestle Taisenaka Hara on the 10th.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he's working with a couple of

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[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, Tahiti and Aaron Wolf against Fujida and OEwa and Yoshihashi and Godo against Shingo and Suji on the 10th.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That should be very good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's not going to be a load of title matches, but the two shows the cork and all chefs are good wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, definitely a little more excited looking at the lineup, because then I was just thinking about magic to have here to me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Speaking of Godo,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, I saw the new trailer for the, for Street Fighter, you know, the movie that he's in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They've dropped a new trailer and Stephen, it doesn't look bad.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It actually look pretty good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Doesn't, it really does.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I, I have a Street Fighter love like I have books and I have action figure with all this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So like, I've got my lore, you know, and I'm watching this and I'm like, you know what?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm kind of here for this, it feels faithful, it feels dumb, but like it knows it's dumb.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And when they kind of know what it is, I think it's kind of apologetic and it could be a lot more fun than, you know, oh, we know of dumb, we know you're in on the joke, blah, blah, blah, and it's just like somehow the delivery of all the sorts material just kind of misses the mark.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think it comes out in October,

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I hope it is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I hope it is both for go to a second for the sake of the of the other guys that are involved in it that are in the process of that trade or two.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Good.

01:00:01.555 --> 01:00:01.695
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:00:01.715 --> 01:00:02.435
[SPEAKER_00]: I haven't seen the trade.

01:00:02.475 --> 01:00:02.836
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll take one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:00:04.196 --> 01:00:12.541
[SPEAKER_01]: He, uh, he was definitely E Honda E, which is the sumo wrestler that he plays with a hundred hand slap.

01:00:13.366 --> 01:00:19.414
[SPEAKER_00]: That's a big man dog says I guess good matches is all you can ask for on a destruction tour.

01:00:19.474 --> 01:00:19.574
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:00:19.614 --> 01:00:20.215
[SPEAKER_00]: I agree with you.

01:00:20.495 --> 01:00:23.179
[SPEAKER_00]: He says I'm looking forward to watching NJPW again.

01:00:23.479 --> 01:00:24.421
[SPEAKER_00]: I got the ash.

01:00:24.481 --> 01:00:25.542
[SPEAKER_00]: The look I say, the G1 finals.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

01:00:28.106 --> 01:00:28.226
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

01:00:28.644 --> 01:00:31.165
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm ready to see some good matches, and I think we're going to get back to it.

01:00:31.505 --> 01:00:34.987
[SPEAKER_00]: The war hero says that he's just going for chaos.

01:00:35.007 --> 01:00:39.068
[SPEAKER_00]: There he says B, B, Priestley should join the AEW empire.

01:00:39.969 --> 01:00:46.752
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I say over and over again, that one of the best ways to be wrong is to use the words always and never.

01:00:48.010 --> 01:00:49.972
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm pretty close to using never on that one.

01:00:50.053 --> 01:00:52.996
[SPEAKER_00]: I can imagine his ex joining up with Alex Winsner right there.

01:00:53.296 --> 01:00:54.598
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think that one's going to happen.

01:00:54.638 --> 01:00:56.620
[SPEAKER_00]: Besides, she's injured, and she's also in Starbucks.

01:00:56.680 --> 01:01:01.867
[SPEAKER_00]: So there's a lot of work in against that theory there, work, my goodness, that would be awkward.

01:01:02.227 --> 01:01:04.590
[SPEAKER_00]: And then, uh, we're here at 99 says time to reform.

01:01:04.650 --> 01:01:05.831
[SPEAKER_00]: This is a Zuki gun.

01:01:06.512 --> 01:01:26.070
[SPEAKER_00]: you know Suzuki has been living his best life in the years since he left New Japan doing whatever the hell he wants and working for whoever he wants and maybe more importantly Jeremy not working when he doesn't want to which you don't always get to do when you're with a major company and he seems to be enjoying his life just doing

01:01:27.880 --> 01:01:32.242
[SPEAKER_00]: one-offs here and there and almost always something different.

01:01:32.502 --> 01:01:42.047
[SPEAKER_00]: It's very rarely just a wrestling match any more of Minerus Suzuki, it's either on a shinkin' set, or in a park someplace, or he's the surprise opponent for Megaton doing

01:01:42.827 --> 01:02:07.707
[SPEAKER_00]: He's been doing more comedy matches lately where it's just the idea that people are terrified of him and are going through big machinations to try to get away from being murdered by him and he plays the the rampaging monster murder grandpa coming for you stories he seems to be really enjoying it though and the other thing I've noticed about those matches Jeremy the ones we've been talking about taking a lot fewer bumps than he used to and 50s probably smart idea.

01:02:08.065 --> 01:02:18.754
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I just look at it like you're you're just trading off the name at this point and working your store and showing up for the use gives and you're going to be you're going to be fine for the rest of your life.

01:02:19.368 --> 01:02:34.135
[SPEAKER_00]: Histories really cool, by the way, the one in hard joku and it is in the basement of a mall building in the Yeah, they don't have shopping malls like we do in America, we're in the middle of this giant parking lot because there's no space the malls stacked on top of each other.

01:02:34.435 --> 01:02:39.718
[SPEAKER_00]: And so they're in the basement of this building and right across from it is a song out of heads.

01:02:40.518 --> 01:03:04.634
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like two old men just like they're totally cool with each other like they obviously made the plan to do these kind of things But you just totally get this idea that they're angry and yelling at each other and watch each other at all times I think you know what I mean, well a grumpy old man Well 100% 100% like I was there and I just like give you that energy and there just you know jovial hanging out like

01:03:05.574 --> 01:03:18.018
[SPEAKER_01]: I think Suzuki was like ready for me to like talk to him and it's like one of these tourists and I just like, I don't have anything specific to say to them and I don't speak Japanese.

01:03:18.178 --> 01:03:24.280
[SPEAKER_01]: I like it and I'm going to be just another naval faceless like American to this guy and I'm like, I'm okay with that.

01:03:24.380 --> 01:03:25.301
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll just buy the shirt.

01:03:25.341 --> 01:03:26.021
[SPEAKER_01]: Peace out.

01:03:26.441 --> 01:03:31.383
[SPEAKER_00]: U.S. V. A. guys here and he says I love watching the garden Suzuki watching each other at the store.

01:03:31.403 --> 01:03:41.406
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, you got to be with you with a really nice kind of boutique style like door and then you got negata sitting in a folding chair with just crap all right.

01:03:41.586 --> 01:03:41.666
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh.

01:03:43.179 --> 01:03:49.180
[SPEAKER_00]: The contrast are beautiful because yes, it is neatly arranged at Suzuki's store.

01:03:49.260 --> 01:03:56.802
[SPEAKER_01]: It's everything is like you're walking into the front of a target and they have all the clothes nice and folded and hanging and all that stuff and then you're like

01:04:13.317 --> 01:04:17.301
[SPEAKER_00]: And the USDA guy also says, this aspirated rain is going to be very weird.

01:04:17.321 --> 01:04:18.421
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I agree with you on that.

01:04:18.481 --> 01:04:19.202
[SPEAKER_00]: I agree with you on that.

01:04:19.262 --> 01:04:25.808
[SPEAKER_01]: It'll be where people that don't seem to understand that there are that off prey is in two different places right now.

01:04:25.868 --> 01:04:34.535
[SPEAKER_01]: And so this newman feud is going to happen more than likely is going to happen a rest of the kingdom if it doesn't have to happen to me because there's got to be a big match to the big show.

01:04:35.367 --> 01:04:37.588
[SPEAKER_01]: But you've got to, we'll got a loop.

01:04:38.348 --> 01:04:40.249
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I was thinking about this.

01:04:40.389 --> 01:04:41.910
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't necessarily think so.

01:04:42.070 --> 01:04:45.491
[SPEAKER_00]: Because will is such a baby face in Japan.

01:04:45.551 --> 01:04:50.173
[SPEAKER_00]: Remember when he came out earlier this year, his music played, they did the Osprey, Osprey.

01:04:50.213 --> 01:04:56.096
[SPEAKER_00]: He is such a baby face for New Japan that if they put Calum Newman on some kind of a rampage.

01:04:57.317 --> 01:04:57.417
[SPEAKER_00]: And

01:04:58.575 --> 01:05:12.253
[SPEAKER_00]: put him in Wrestle Kingdom as long as they made him look good on the way to Wrestle Kingdom, I don't think Calam Newman would lose anything career-wise by coming out on the losing end of a good match with Will Osprey.

01:05:12.513 --> 01:05:14.135
[SPEAKER_00]: And they could have the good guy,

01:05:15.134 --> 01:05:15.434
[SPEAKER_00]: winning.

01:05:15.534 --> 01:05:22.596
[SPEAKER_00]: I know I understand the whole idea of the new Japan guy losing to someone outside the company and we've bristle plenty at that.

01:05:23.076 --> 01:05:27.137
[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like Osprey is enough of a new Japan baby face that I don't think it would hurt as much.

01:05:27.357 --> 01:05:31.759
[SPEAKER_00]: And the thing is, I don't think AWS is going to let their champion go over and lose.

01:05:31.879 --> 01:05:34.039
[SPEAKER_00]: So I think it's about the only choice to have.

01:05:34.059 --> 01:05:38.320
[SPEAKER_00]: If you're going to if he's the champion and you do it at rest looking, that's a lot of ifs.

01:05:38.981 --> 01:05:40.101
[SPEAKER_00]: But I think they

01:05:44.315 --> 01:05:50.078
[SPEAKER_00]: that Osprey coming in to teach the kid a lesson, I think that would get over anyway.

01:05:50.238 --> 01:05:51.799
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think it would, I think it might work.

01:05:52.139 --> 01:05:57.963
[SPEAKER_00]: Normally I would bristle at that, like, show to Umino should absolutely not lose to a death rider on a big show.

01:05:58.163 --> 01:06:05.927
[SPEAKER_00]: No, but I think Newman might be able to lose to Osprey without it doing too much damage, especially if it's a great match, which I'm sure it would be.

01:06:06.722 --> 01:06:09.483
[SPEAKER_01]: The reality is, there's no point to do the match of new them loses.

01:06:09.883 --> 01:06:10.964
[SPEAKER_01]: There's absolutely no point.

01:06:11.184 --> 01:06:13.565
[SPEAKER_01]: You do damage to new them and you do damage to your promotion.

01:06:13.825 --> 01:06:14.365
[SPEAKER_01]: You do damage.

01:06:14.385 --> 01:06:16.867
[SPEAKER_01]: You want to your top heel to a guy that's not even around.

01:06:17.987 --> 01:06:21.048
[SPEAKER_01]: How many of that's why Russell for New Japan?

01:06:21.369 --> 01:06:22.809
[SPEAKER_00]: I think this is a different case.

01:06:23.229 --> 01:06:28.472
[SPEAKER_01]: I just think I think the only reason they're doing this is so we'll off break and get new them over.

01:06:29.952 --> 01:06:33.034
[SPEAKER_01]: And the Tokyo don't, it's not getting him over.

01:06:33.684 --> 01:06:35.144
[SPEAKER_00]: I would love it if that happened.

01:06:35.384 --> 01:06:37.545
[SPEAKER_00]: I want the New Japan guys to win these matches.

01:06:37.605 --> 01:06:42.846
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just saying in this case, I don't really see a path to it if he has the title when he wrestles in some.

01:06:42.866 --> 01:06:44.106
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think we'll gonna have the title.

01:06:44.126 --> 01:06:46.787
[SPEAKER_01]: I think he's probably gonna work with another vulgar or world's end.

01:06:47.247 --> 01:06:48.447
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that's awesome.

01:06:48.467 --> 01:06:51.347
[SPEAKER_01]: He has a big match, he'll go five months.

01:06:52.068 --> 01:06:55.088
[SPEAKER_01]: He'll defend and title four or five pay per view.

01:06:55.728 --> 01:06:59.509
[SPEAKER_01]: And then go into the new gear and it can make the journey of him getting that title back.

01:07:00.049 --> 01:07:01.110
[SPEAKER_00]: That's fine.

01:07:01.530 --> 01:07:06.693
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, obviously, there's no way for will to lose that match to Calumnum.

01:07:06.733 --> 01:07:10.996
[SPEAKER_01]: And if you, you know, you champion, Tony Con will never allow that to happen.

01:07:11.216 --> 01:07:12.477
[SPEAKER_01]: That title is to protect it.

01:07:12.517 --> 01:07:15.479
[SPEAKER_01]: And then, obviously, one of the most important things to the world.

01:07:15.619 --> 01:07:16.839
[SPEAKER_01]: And by the way, it's not to happen.

01:07:17.120 --> 01:07:19.241
[SPEAKER_00]: Tony Con is absolutely right to protect it.

01:07:19.621 --> 01:07:20.081
[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.

01:07:20.361 --> 01:07:20.702
[SPEAKER_01]: Like him.

01:07:21.642 --> 01:07:28.246
[SPEAKER_01]: He has spent way too much time building up the value of this title to have a guy in another promotion that he doesn't have control over

01:07:29.778 --> 01:07:30.959
[SPEAKER_00]: What do you think of this war hero says?

01:07:30.979 --> 01:07:35.982
[SPEAKER_00]: So his prediction is he'll drop the belt to Ocata after Ocata drops his current one to hangman.

01:07:37.743 --> 01:07:39.885
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know where he came up with that, but sure.

01:07:42.707 --> 01:07:43.107
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

01:07:43.207 --> 01:07:46.709
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know where hangman fits in now that he found the world title.

01:07:46.809 --> 01:07:50.212
[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't really see Ocata is world title.

01:07:51.877 --> 01:07:59.220
[SPEAKER_01]: material in AEW because there's a lot of responsibility and a lot of obligations to represent.

01:07:59.880 --> 01:08:07.003
[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't know if he has all the tools available to be the best representative of the World Champion.

01:08:07.923 --> 01:08:16.946
[SPEAKER_01]: I would not be against it, but I think there are certain scenarios that make making Ocada your World Champion problematic.

01:08:17.547 --> 01:08:17.787
[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.

01:08:19.420 --> 01:08:20.061
[SPEAKER_00]: I agree.

01:08:20.101 --> 01:08:32.815
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that they probably got him in the right spot competing for those other belts that are, well, I mean, everybody in AEW has a belt that's another problem, but I would prefer to call it a challenge him for the world title, but I also think that when that happens, we'll should beat him.

01:08:34.075 --> 01:08:34.435
[SPEAKER_00]: There you go.

01:08:34.756 --> 01:08:35.757
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's fine.

01:08:35.857 --> 01:08:51.354
[SPEAKER_00]: If he loses the title, then he could absolutely this I just I honestly think that a baby face will would be fine to win that match, but if there is a way to do it so the column goes over and we have a heel beating a new Japan legend on

01:08:52.605 --> 01:09:01.593
[SPEAKER_00]: a new Japan show so that this younger guy going forward is more over than ever before hell yes, please, let's if we can do it, let's do it.

01:09:01.713 --> 01:09:10.881
[SPEAKER_00]: I just, you know, with me, Jeremy, I just get nervous whenever there's involvement from other companies because of the way new Japan shoots himself in the foot by deferring too often on that.

01:09:11.102 --> 01:09:14.285
[SPEAKER_00]: So I get the willys sometimes and I start to think about how

01:09:15.236 --> 01:09:17.557
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, maybe if the guy loses, there's a way to make it work.

01:09:17.577 --> 01:09:20.759
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's kind of where my brain ends up going, rather than our guy going over.

01:09:20.839 --> 01:09:28.844
[SPEAKER_01]: I think the most obvious pathway is are the ones that you kind of need to see is that when that match with Calumnum and Happen, will won't be the AEW champion.

01:09:29.484 --> 01:09:34.507
[SPEAKER_01]: Because they're only recon for that match to happen is to get Calumnum and over.

01:09:35.268 --> 01:09:39.590
[SPEAKER_01]: And the only reason will would do that match is to get Calumnum and over.

01:09:39.970 --> 01:09:42.292
[SPEAKER_01]: Like there's a lot of matches where all he wanted to do

01:09:44.673 --> 01:09:45.615
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, he wanted to get them.

01:09:45.635 --> 01:09:45.975
[SPEAKER_01]: We over.

01:09:46.015 --> 01:09:47.557
[SPEAKER_01]: He wanted to make sure a curing on over.

01:09:47.597 --> 01:10:00.073
[SPEAKER_01]: He wanted to make sure all these guys on his way out were set up for the test and, you know, the company had their own ideas, but this is a guy who's incredibly self-ish with trying to give a little shine to a friend.

01:10:00.795 --> 01:10:22.736
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, big man dog says he thinks the folk out ever wins the A, W title, it would be a transitional rain for one or two months, some way to get it from one guy to another guy, yeah, yeah, that that could definitely be that could definitely be and so yeah, that that's that's where we are right now we've got a long way to go to rest, okay, and it doesn't always feel like that, but there are a lot of shows between here and there and a lot more.

01:10:23.557 --> 01:10:32.200
[SPEAKER_00]: uh, a lot more twists in that plot to come, but I'm hoping that we'll see Will and Calam what bus I just think that it would be a great match for the dome.

01:10:32.300 --> 01:10:33.941
[SPEAKER_00]: It's it's a dome match.

01:10:34.561 --> 01:10:40.384
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a mall park match and I think it would be outstanding to go see for selfish reasons.

01:10:40.884 --> 01:10:46.106
[SPEAKER_00]: And also I think it would help sell tickets because I think people are into Will as, as, as a, as a star.

01:10:46.386 --> 01:10:47.826
[SPEAKER_01]: He's the only guy that you need for me.

01:10:48.007 --> 01:10:48.947
[SPEAKER_01]: You're the next year for that

01:10:52.469 --> 01:10:59.245
[SPEAKER_00]: There you go, I hope because really with that match, if they can get it, a pretty good world title match.

01:11:00.427 --> 01:11:04.689
[SPEAKER_00]: And if you have the knock-up brothers and the tag team thing, you know, you got something here.

01:11:05.009 --> 01:11:07.350
[SPEAKER_00]: It's, you don't have time to hash these retirement.

01:11:07.670 --> 01:11:15.213
[SPEAKER_00]: And so they're going to need to put together a team effort to sell those tickets in that baseball stadium in January.

01:11:15.233 --> 01:11:18.714
[SPEAKER_00]: It's going to take the whole roster up and down.

01:11:19.434 --> 01:11:24.396
[SPEAKER_00]: They do not have any one thing that will fill the place, like saying goodbye to Tana Hashie did.

01:11:25.276 --> 01:11:25.717
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's see.

01:11:26.277 --> 01:11:26.497
[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.

01:11:27.843 --> 01:11:32.605
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, boy, is there anything else Jeremy you want to cover before we sign off?

01:11:32.625 --> 01:11:37.826
[SPEAKER_00]: We'll get to a couple of these comments before we say goodbye, but are there any other topics you want to make sure we cover this week?

01:11:39.187 --> 01:11:41.448
[SPEAKER_00]: Not that I know of, no, I'm good.

01:11:42.588 --> 01:11:50.411
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm looking forward to these shows and they are not going to be the most consequential thing in New Japan history, but the guys always try hard for Nagata.

01:11:51.268 --> 01:11:53.430
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that that show in Chiba will be all right.

01:11:53.570 --> 01:11:58.914
[SPEAKER_00]: And a lot of these matchups are with workers that tend to

01:12:00.441 --> 01:12:01.721
[SPEAKER_00]: motivate each other a little bit.

01:12:01.821 --> 01:12:06.222
[SPEAKER_00]: There's a little bit less house of torture involved in the key moments here right now.

01:12:06.262 --> 01:12:14.724
[SPEAKER_00]: We're in this nice little spot where house of torture is involved in a lot of the title pictures, which means these preview tags won't be so bad.

01:12:14.744 --> 01:12:17.265
[SPEAKER_00]: This is something the big man dogs mentioned here earlier.

01:12:17.325 --> 01:12:18.385
[SPEAKER_00]: That's the different helmet.

01:12:18.405 --> 01:12:18.705
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's see.

01:12:18.965 --> 01:12:25.127
[SPEAKER_00]: He said he watched destruction in 2013 after the New Japan tweet and it made it so obvious just

01:12:31.409 --> 01:12:49.690
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a little bit startling to go back, yeah, I mentioned it a few weeks ago, to go back 10 years and watch a show from about 10 years ago, and I don't mean one of the majors just go and watch one of the road to's and it's apparent that there is a percentage of this roster that just doesn't work hard anymore.

01:12:50.551 --> 01:12:50.651
[SPEAKER_00]: And

01:12:51.896 --> 01:13:01.129
[SPEAKER_00]: He noticed it in the, and I, I've said the names before Renderita don't try usual talk Ashie, doesn't try Samada probably not healthy enough, but half the time doesn't try.

01:13:01.149 --> 01:13:06.576
[SPEAKER_00]: We saw a little bit of in the G1, but not consistently good news as a lot of these guys are out of the title picture.

01:13:06.596 --> 01:13:09.219
[SPEAKER_00]: So shingo doesn't take nights off.

01:13:10.415 --> 01:13:17.781
[SPEAKER_00]: Suji wets them shingo, but he's usually good for something in the house shows and especially now he's champion.

01:13:17.821 --> 01:13:20.122
[SPEAKER_00]: He wants to show everybody deserves a go-to.

01:13:20.543 --> 01:13:21.603
[SPEAKER_00]: He doesn't take nice off.

01:13:22.464 --> 01:13:25.526
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'll guy, Taiji, she morey, doesn't take nice off.

01:13:26.247 --> 01:13:28.949
[SPEAKER_00]: Having these people in the mix against each other, good stuff.

01:13:30.501 --> 01:13:30.721
[SPEAKER_00]: Alright.

01:13:31.803 --> 01:13:33.866
[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, that's it for this week.

01:13:33.886 --> 01:13:38.593
[SPEAKER_00]: Why don't we just go ahead and cut it off here and keep in mind when we come back next week?

01:13:38.613 --> 01:13:40.256
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, that four shows to talk about.

01:13:40.336 --> 01:13:44.002
[SPEAKER_00]: So we will be going over all the heavy hit in a 90 minute to that week guys.

01:13:44.842 --> 01:13:48.484
[SPEAKER_00]: from Toshigi and Shiba and back in Corican Hall.

01:13:48.984 --> 01:13:52.526
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to be catching up with the dream star ground pretty, keeping up with that.

01:13:52.586 --> 01:14:00.650
[SPEAKER_00]: And also, there was a pretty good triple crown title match between Yuma, Anzai and Kento Mia Harrow over in all Japan.

01:14:00.670 --> 01:14:03.752
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, that I still have that soft spot on my heart for all Japan pro wrestling.

01:14:03.892 --> 01:14:05.993
[SPEAKER_00]: We'll go check that out before we come back here.

01:14:07.163 --> 01:14:07.423
[SPEAKER_01]: Nice.

01:14:08.224 --> 01:14:16.588
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't really have any plants for anything other than watching a new Japan and my net regular week of work and making my wife happy.

01:14:18.389 --> 01:14:19.450
[SPEAKER_00]: That's always important for sure.

01:14:19.530 --> 01:14:20.691
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's the priorities.

01:14:21.011 --> 01:14:30.276
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, this is like third priority, but on Thursday, it's a higher priority, but most of the time it's just job family podcasting.

01:14:31.243 --> 01:14:34.606
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I've got another Austin FC home game to go to.

01:14:34.626 --> 01:14:38.870
[SPEAKER_00]: So we've been sitting in the 100 degree heat frequently with these soccer games, these home soccer game.

01:14:38.890 --> 01:14:45.336
[SPEAKER_00]: A lot of home games in the August and September that are really killing us sometimes with this schedule.

01:14:45.976 --> 01:14:49.119
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's just go to all the home games during the year the hottest months of the year out here.

01:14:49.139 --> 01:14:50.701
[SPEAKER_01]: You are quite a fan of sport, my friend.

01:14:50.721 --> 01:14:51.962
[SPEAKER_01]: You are quite a fan of sport.

01:14:52.022 --> 01:14:53.143
[SPEAKER_01]: I would not be putting up with that.

01:14:54.108 --> 01:14:56.850
[SPEAKER_00]: It's, yeah, well, we're trying to do our best to stay cool.

01:14:56.930 --> 01:15:03.554
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, I think I got free tickets to a nine earth game last year and we were like hot in the blazing sun on the top thing.

01:15:03.574 --> 01:15:06.135
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think we lasted half a game and we went home.

01:15:06.535 --> 01:15:08.516
[SPEAKER_01]: It was like the nine earth, they're free tickets.

01:15:08.536 --> 01:15:09.677
[SPEAKER_01]: They're 20 minutes from our house.

01:15:10.077 --> 01:15:16.121
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not like I'm talking that like this was a huge thing that I skipped out on a cliff.

01:15:16.621 --> 01:15:21.604
[SPEAKER_01]: It was my wife was not enjoying getting fried like an egg and we were out of there.

01:15:22.184 --> 01:15:23.702
[SPEAKER_00]: It's valid, and that is definitely valid.

01:15:24.555 --> 01:15:27.916
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, so I want to thank everybody again here who joined us live.

01:15:28.096 --> 01:15:33.036
[SPEAKER_00]: Anybody who listens here later in a podcast form or here on YouTube, we're really grateful for your time.

01:15:33.056 --> 01:15:34.497
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01:15:34.537 --> 01:15:41.158
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we'll sign off for now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: For Jeremy Feinstein, I'm Stephen Conway.

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