NJPW Road to Dontaku: Tiger Mask’s Last Ride & Bushiroad’s Big Loan | Speaking of Strong Style

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[SPEAKER_01]: The road to pro wrestling don't talk who began with mostly in consequential shows, a cork at all this past week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But things are about to get busier.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There are a lot of events.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And there are two different shows featuring title matches as the company heads to the Southwest and heads toward the two night events in Fukuoka, pro wrestling don't talk you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Before we even get to that though, we have a night of,

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[SPEAKER_01]: tag team championship matches.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We have a junior heavyweight title defense.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to take a look at those and talk about the rest of the world in wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Since it was a fairly eventful one in terms of other promotions anyway, even if things were pretty quiet on the New Japan front.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we have some previews and we'll study the state of the business, but Jeremy Feinstein, I'm Stephen Conway.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is Speaking of Strong Style.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Welcome everyone to speaking of strong style.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We discussed the news issues and events surrounding new Japan pro wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We had events.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I can't say we had a whole lot of news or issues this week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Jeremy fairly quiet on the old of the new Japan front.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The two shows at Cork and will.

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[SPEAKER_01]: recap very, very briefly, but my mind was on other things most of this week, and New Japan didn't do anything to distract me from those other things, so we have some stuff coming up though.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We have some interesting stuff coming up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: How did you spend your WrestleMania weekend and everything else that happened in American wrestling this past week?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't watch any wrestling until Saturday in which I watched WrestleMania and then I podcasted for two hours and then I watched Newt fan on Sunday morning and then I watched more WrestleMania and then I watched more chip hit Newt fan on Monday morning and just to order wrestling coming.

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[SPEAKER_00]: mostly all in Conks Quintual really with a couple of matches here there that I watched that feel we're going to maybe stand I don't know the test of time but uh yeah I felt like the New Japan shows uh if we got better shows Steven maybe Bushy road wouldn't be morally million to dollars

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, we're going to talk about that in just a moment because there was a financial development with Bushy Road that has everybody looking a little crossways at things right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So Jeremy Oros here and he asked about it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, Jeremy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to talk about it in a second.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Colin is here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Colin is here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Colin says the blood sport, which is shutting down apparently Josh Barnett announced that that was the final blood sport event.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he said spark Joshee were the two best shows over many a week in his opinion.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Jeremy said, CMLL was really good, and he thought the start-up was the only good thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought there were too many AEW people on the start-up show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's something that tends to happen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They don't bring the whole crew for financial reasons and visa reasons.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Remember, Machito was supposed to be there, but things didn't quite come through for her.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So a lot of times, Jeremy, when they're doing these shows,

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[SPEAKER_01]: around WrestleMania and in the same town as a major event, they supplement the roster with people that are in the states that have worked with them before people that are already in town, working other shows and they bring them in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it tends to be a mishmash, doesn't it?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, and I'm being a little bit more of an attribution than it does, I can't click what you'll show a lot of these.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, I wasn't the gig on that year to go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I went, I went to a mania in Miami, the 28-1 with Sina and Rock, and it was like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: I went to a dragon gate U.S. A show and at the first time I saw Johnny Gargano and Shinko Tikagi and Ed Seema and a couple of these other guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And while the show was really good in the grand scheme of whatever was happening in that promotion, it was more, we're not sure enough stuff rather than this has been that's like important show for the people that follow the promotion that's worth it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's basically what

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[SPEAKER_00]: those collective shows are now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just we're going to we're just going to bring in all these people and we hope that you pay money to come to our show because it's the coolest one of the shows and

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[SPEAKER_00]: What I saw, they just kind of, they just kind of all cannibalized each other's audiences.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Nobody really, nobody really like killed it on these shows, and everybody got what they wanted out of it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, if you wanted your startup show, you got it to some extent of Jeremy was saying that, you know, what a bit tainted with the AEW people, but

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, like, you need that, you need that pathway for some of these audience people to like, oh, who are these people?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, the wrestling people I do know, this gives me the framework to be familiar with them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't know, it always fascinates me that the indie crowd, like the indie promotions and all this stuff congregate around these WWE shows in which

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[SPEAKER_00]: realistically, those WWE fans are there for WWE stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the percentage of other people that are there, like there are hard core wrestling fans, but now that we're in a world with AEW and a couple of these other promotions like TNA and MLW, they're a little bit more of a presence in there in the world.

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[SPEAKER_00]: you know, going like expecting to get all of that stuff, when people just want WWE at WWE events, it made it hard to succeed there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it was interesting when I was there for a rest of Kingdom, you've been there for rest of Kingdom Mobile and Tokyo.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You tend to run into other foreign fans, people like us, Americans,

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[SPEAKER_01]: five shows that we, you know, it's if they're not just going to wrestling them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They are in Japan and they're going to go to everything.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not always the case in with WWE that the folks kind of think WWE or or busts.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, but still those shows that they keep doing them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I have to assume that the companies believe.

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[SPEAKER_01]: they're getting something out of doing so.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll see, we have a big event come with an opportunity for more eyeballs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I totally get that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: People, this is the one time a year where people who aren't paying attention to anything other than WDVVs, you know, looked like the festival around the festival.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sometimes you just have people fall in and fall in love with deep emotions.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think that and then you're in your questions, how does it get your people over or your promotion?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think they're just hoping to get some fresh eyeballs people that wouldn't normally see if they just know there's a wrestling show here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll go check it out and then become fans.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what they're hoping for.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's what they're hoping for.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, they're like doing, yeah, get Rob Van Datt, Rob Van Damm on the show or something like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're just like, this old WWE name is like, oh, maybe we can go see someone that you have to be in WWE for a significant, significantly cheaper cost than it would to go to a WWE show when WWE's not actually on while we're here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so that's the logic you start with.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then it just kind of snowballs into ambition and big shows that outgrow what they were intended to do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And like Colin's, Colin's mentioning that Natty versus Shane on Bloodsport was nuts, but in a good way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he said the only thing that annoyed him was at the GCW show, there were microphone issues the whole time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He said we're never sorted out, which yeah, that would be annoying.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The whole Bloodsport thing is weird to be okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: it was never his blood sport.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was just his name on it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You remember it was Matt Riddle's blood sport before it was ever Josh Barnett's blood sport, and it'd run by Brad Potterdale, so it could be whoever's blood sport they wanted to be after that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So the whole Barnett, like coming in saying that like we're shutting down blood sports, like, are we that moving?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess they are, I guess they are for now, he wouldn't have gone on the microphone and said that unless that was the plan to shut things down.

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[SPEAKER_00]: George Ward has one sport of shutting down.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Everyone else is like, it's not shutting down.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's, I guess he's not going to be involved with it anymore.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's important, you know, like he's a name and he got that promotion.

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[SPEAKER_00]: to be viable and visible for a few years there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, he deserves to say, like, hey, I'm walking away.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I'm like, my time here has done.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I have accomplished it and getting more and more of a pain in the ass to book with WWE and AEW and all these other promotions.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Trying to do the shows that I want.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm done, that basically what happened, even though he's not going to say it like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, you read between the line.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The books for show forgetting harder and harder to book because the people

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[SPEAKER_00]: are getting harder and harder than negotiate with.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we've seen that and this isn't specific to WrestleMania weekend, but some of the shows that our matches that aren't allowed to happen because someone works with TNA, which works with WWE, so they're not going to be going to show with an AEW guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the politics is getting sticky.

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[SPEAKER_01]: more sticky than it already was anyway and that that eventually some people are going to just throw up their hands and just say I did that I'm not going to bother with this anymore.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I love that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're on the discord and we will before menu weekend, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'll talk with somebody else on our network about

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[SPEAKER_00]: the M.J.F.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Dolph Zigg or Nick Nemethmatch that was going to happen up in New York on May 1st.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, I expect that that match does not happen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they're like, why would they care about M.J.F.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and Nemethmatch?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's like, because they're petty, and they don't even want the sniff of the guy that used to work at WWE, losing to a top guy in AEW.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just,

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[SPEAKER_00]: like, even if it matters not on a win at all, they don't want it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And later on that day, it was like it was done.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And there's no other way to like, to tell you like, even like, I felt bad with the eye told you so.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like it looks like it was so obvious that it was going to happen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then like denying the reality that this is how these

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[SPEAKER_00]: your reality to hit you in the face.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Brad is here, you're going to see you, Brad.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Jeremy says a bit of Jeremy or says, it becomes about the bigger name wrestlers as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's always about the bigger name wrestlers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But what they're trying to do is get people in the door and then impress them with their regular crew.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hopefully that's the goal.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If people who make money, they don't want you to book the people that could possibly make them any more money than they're already making.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's really all this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, there were some interesting things going on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I did see that for all of the sports fans who were complaining about being indated with WrestleMania, you know, the people that, you know, I don't want angles going on on my sports shows and things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Nevertheless, the Brock Lesnar Obofemmy thing was the highest rated hour of ESPN that whole weekend.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think it's going to deter ESPN from doing more of this, but that was interesting anyway, the Obofemmy program.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was the one thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: on either night of WrestleMania that I was looking forward to seeing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They had me with that one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was curious to see how that turned out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It turned out about what we thought.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was a Brock Lesnar style match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He put over Oba.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It looks like he has retired.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought it was fine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oba looks like a star in all caps.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This dude is

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's got it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Whatever it is, doesn't he?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not just his size.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not just the facials.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There is a charisma to that dude.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it looks like Brock enjoys it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And because he made the guy look like a zillion dollars through this whole angle right there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I will hit it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I'm going to take it with you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I was a big last year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm coming out of the wicked spoon.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it is a really cool buffet to have them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Next up, I'll keep being about 10 feet to the right of me of where like, through the navigation of the halls and the casino that I've been.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I eat the oba set.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he tried to find the entrance to the wicked spoon, and I kind of debating whether I say so then, I'm not saying you're thinking all, just let him deal with the way he got the lady and whatever.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just looked at the dude, and I'm like, you are self-expecial.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Just in person, in a middle of like, the keynote crowd, which means you are self-expecial.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I am going to just type step all the brak stuff and say that there were a lot of ways that they could fuck up that match and really screw everything up and they did like they managed to make a star out of Obofemi and leverage their way out of having to use brak in a way that problematic for a ton of people and I can breathe a little easier knowing

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's a new guy on top, you know, there's a new, net big thing, all of these things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I hope Obafemi does not turn out to be an awful human being, but right now, I am just happy that, hey, they didn't fuck it up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And be, it's the right guy for the right time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Brad mentioned here, the start of the show was very, very fun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Athena and Rina delivered big time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Unfortunately, Rina got hurt coming out of that match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then she was, she wrestled today at Corican.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think she's relatively all right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then he also mentions as much as I hate and despise WWE.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Every clip of OBA, I see on social media, it makes me want to see him on a show for a company I actually watch that show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I get what Brad saying, like if you were elsewhere and they were able to do something with him,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, he's just special.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, he, he consumes something that, you know, you want to see out of the big progress.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I know that we have like smaller progress, sort of the great physique that fly and jump around all that stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But sometimes you just want the biggest, media skies like standing on top of the, standing on top of the pile of bodies and say on the champion.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's supposed to be a variety show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I say this over and over again, wrestling is supposed to be a variety show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The matches are each supposed to look different.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's one of the more frustrating things about some promotions is that everything tends to look like you just watch seven of the same match over and over again.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And some of these New Japan house shows feel that way sometimes, where I just watch sometimes in eight months, sometimes it's six members, pretty much the same thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And at least with this, he does give you a different dimension.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But you were talking about how

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[SPEAKER_01]: He just had this star quality.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll tell you what, when I was in Las Vegas again, sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They had a new Japan had a show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was a Hinarre and shingo for the never open way title and a few other things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was at Sam's town in so not on the strip, not downtown kind of off, it's considered a local type of casino, but a nice one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's nothing wrong with that's where the show was and.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Afterwards, we, the ginger and I were there, my partner, and we went and got food at the food hall down there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She and I were just sitting there and getting some tacos or something from the food court they had.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And a lot of the wrestlers came through because they were, that was on the way to the elevators or whatever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: As we were finishing our meals, Julia came back downstairs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She had been on the show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And she was in street clothes at that point.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She was out over a year and just walking through the casino.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And she was just ahead out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And if you had no idea about pro wrestling or what pro wrestling was, and in a lot of the people with the casino that night probably didn't, the ones are just playing slots or blackjack,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I swear to you, if you looked up, you would just think she's in a, she's in a show somewhere.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's the star of something.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You might not even know it's wrestling, but there was just something about her walking through there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The charisma is a very real intangible, but it absolutely exists in this business.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Oberfemi has it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Julia had it where you just kind of stopped and looking, oh, who is that?

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's somebody.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like I should know who that is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Even if you're not a wrestling fan, it Oberfemi has that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't hurt the guy six.

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[SPEAKER_01]: four or five or something, you know, he's an enormous person, Julie is not an enormous person, but that charisma still kind of shines through.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Even outside the context of wrestling, she looks like the star or something.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's unexplainable, but everybody has it, and those folks do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I didn't, I didn't clue you at all this, but there was something else that I did the

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[SPEAKER_00]: That I'm going to spring on you because love to be honest.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're not a whole lot of new Japan to talk about this week with what we watched being about five minutes worth of discussion and what we're previewing being about 15 more we're going to stretch it out a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But there's a little bit of a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What's up?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm a giant nerd and I forgot that I have my own wrestling podcast.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I realized that I had

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[SPEAKER_00]: a book that I read, a comic book, actually, that I'm sitting on my pile that I find only read yesterday, Steven, it is called AEW versus DC, which is a bunch of the AEW wrestlers in comic book form, teaming up with

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[SPEAKER_00]: D.C. and AEW, like pairing up to collect a belt that Mercedes-Monae had won, but her opponent in the mix of her 14 or 15 title reign, she won the other cosmic belt, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Ribs from the headlines, rib from the cosmic belt, and her opponent, angrily, shattered the belt, attempted to do all these different dimensions.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So AEW

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[SPEAKER_00]: had to team up together to get this felt back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, once again, this is just a rip off of the net support Maki Hito storyline right now, where we're net support.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Why have Kauai both?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm telling you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to put that saw, like, saw who was writing this?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't actually have the credit here, but I'm actually legitimately impressed at the voices that they were able to do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: for AEW, like they actually just said then, like, we'll offer you a handbrave in the book and all this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he was some choice moments in this thing before we move on, include that man teaming up with Darby Allen, and constantly braiding him for his death wish and telling him that he needs to approach life differently.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was number one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Number two was Wonder Woman and Willow Nightingale.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Fighting undead horns with horns and me thinking like this factory pretty cool and if I were willing to go I could die happy right now with a full panel like comic page of her battling like zombie with Wonder Woman.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's that's cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The climates of the first issue become for Sadie Khmone turning on all of AEW and teaming up with what's Luther to create their own super, like super universe, whatever, and it requires, it requires wonder woman and a power-up Kenny Omega who is channeling the new

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[SPEAKER_00]: in which the two have to fight Westgluther and Mercadies Monet to regain the belt and restore order to the entire Cosmo.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Completely boggier stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Two issues you're in and you're out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was done more than I ever thought it could be, and I highly recommend it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a lot there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What do you know is interesting that they did something like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was gone.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It came out maybe two or three four months ago.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's clearly set towards the time where Mercedes Monet is a heel, Tony Storm is still around.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, Osprey and Nightwing, Batman's former psychic Robin, who's his own hero now, the team up, Osprey freed out Nightwing, because he's going to give the guy a week of assassin member, a tiger driver and Nightwing team is going to kill the guy, and Osprey's like, no, I'm a master precision, and I'm just like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, they actually did a tiger driver on this comic, and I, I was not expecting a tiger driver to come up in this thing whatsoever.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So if you are of that mind, and sufficiently insane, I do think AEW and DC to part crossover is worth your time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And if we could podcast, if we could take you on to the Japan program, let's see.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, we went, so let me talk about that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All started grand queen dim is coming up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a boochy road event.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So therefore it's a little bit New Japan related.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's coming up this weekend.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's one of Stardom's biggest shows of the year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm always curious to see how that goes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm excited about it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We got Momo Watanabe back after a long, absolute injury.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We got Sakikashima's final match today.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was a sad moment there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Saki has always been a lot of fun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'd say one other thing though, WWE related there, Jeremy, I was watching, you know, I'm a big CML fan, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I enjoy watching the luches stuff, and I have been hearing that good things were happening in the wall places, triple A wrestling,

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it is booked by the Undertaker, Mark Alloway, he is booking AAA right now, which is kind of a mind-blower, but Jeremy, I've watched the show that featured the confrontation between the original L Grande Americano and the current Grande Americano, which is a funny name, but

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[SPEAKER_01]: Jeremy, this thing's over his health.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They've challenged each other to a mask versus match matches.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Chad, Gabel, and Ludwig Kaiser.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think on the 30th of May, it's super hot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's hotter than like a bunch of the crap on me, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was so well done, like the fight they had.

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[SPEAKER_01]: to set up the challenge, the brawl looked fantastic.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Both Kaiser and Gabriel did a wonderful job with this brawl.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The rest of the show had Penta Cerro Miedo against the Kango, which was pretty good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: a little wacky because it's pen to the can go who neither one of them can really control themselves.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's something that you have to deal with in there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But otherwise, pretty entertaining.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's an hour show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's on YouTube.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Anyone can watch this stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And while it is done in Spanish, they have, I believe it's Ray Mysterio, if I recognize the voice, dubbing it over in English.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So if somebody gets on the microphone and does a promo in Spanish,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I believe Ray, I believe it's Ray, is dubbing it over in English, Corey Graves, and that trash bag John Lafield is doing the commentary, but what do you expect from Callaway?

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's, you know, he, he, he, he got help to the guy from,

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[SPEAKER_00]: the guy from TNA that came over and helped undertaker do that match with AJ Styles.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He does all the he doesn't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I can't remember a thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, he, I think if they start with Jeremy too, actually.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've been telling people over and over again.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Jeremy Borrash, there it is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, Borrash, Rob Borrash isn't on it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, well, there you go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've been telling people, you know,

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a bit of a brass.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There are a lot of people that aren't happy with American wrestling right now, whether it's just then all that subjective if you're enjoying it great, but I've had people last, it's like, what do I do when I just don't like wrestling anymore?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I just say, go watch some CMLL right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're doing great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then of all things, this one hour show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a nice tight one hour thing from Triton out of huge time commitment.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Triple A's doing pretty well right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So right now the Mexican stuff looking pretty good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that was refreshing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I still think Stardom is good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think Marigold the Yoshi scene.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The women's wrestling scene in Japan is very strong right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think I think there are five companies that are doing something interesting at the moment and not that they're perfect, but they're they're good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think I also our grand queen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to be a terrific show in ring.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so there are all ways to seize of pockets of goodness.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You just have to shoot it out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I mean, I'm all wrestling is equal and not all wrestling is going to resonate with everybody and I am fully an advocate of just walking away and turning off wrestling for a week or two and coming back and just, you know, letting it be away from your life and if you need to catch up great, but if you miss that week and you never watch it ever again, I promise you, most of the time it'll be okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so, you know, I mentioned sign up to Russell University of all the wrestling you won on there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: A lot of promotions on that thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Good so it's a well worth the moment.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I have, I spent last week to just binge watching a bunch of shows that I'd like let go because, you know, one click to WWE stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't really feel like watching a whole lot of the wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There wasn't a whole lot in New Japan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: We have this week, we have maybe like one more week right after done talking or like that re recap and then after that it's like that's the super junior if and every week we got stuff to talk about like we're hot and heavy on the Japan but just like right now like I am taking very much advantage of the time that I have that not need to pay related to just not do wrestling stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, that's about over with because the New Japan schedule was picking up a big time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And unfortunately, at TJPW, I guess in Las Vegas wasn't very good at both Jeremy or Ann Collins said that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They put a lot of their eggs in that sumo hall basket.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So between their Texas tour, which I got to see in person and the Las Vegas show, they went back and ran sumo hall and drew pretty well and had a pretty good show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's right after a major event

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[SPEAKER_01]: getting things going again and you know how it is when you have that big event where every title is on the line.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now it's more about establishing the next thing and they're at the very bottom of the they're in the valley.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They still have to climb the mountain to get it to peak again.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But the Las Vegas Show came right as they had kind of finished up a lot of stuff, you know,

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, it was not maybe TJPW's best stuff, but they put their eggs in a similar hallbask.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I won't argue with that because they ended up drawing 3,000 similar hall, which is a really good crowd for them, but yeah, kind of left them with an empty gun, nothing, not a whole lot of not a whole lot left to shoot in Vegas.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so the best way to put it is, beginning of the month,

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[SPEAKER_00]: MJF defend against, you know, Kenny Omega and then drop the title to Darby Allen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Then the week after we have the empung dropping the title to Roman Reigns, these are all big things and now we're followed by like, then you're going to de-escalate and just kind of calm down.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm cognizant of all these promotions like these big things just tap it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're still like taking it, they're still moving, but like the huge moment, I'm not going to miss any of anything right now because they're still working off all these big things that they just did the promotion don't do 500 big things going to run this is like one big thing you're going to sit on it we're going to let it simmer we're going to we're going to digest it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they're just there are times where you can be like, okay, I can just not focus on this because they've they've laid their car and on the table, we know what the big story is right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, they tried to, let's see, well, they, what, they viewed Sol Ruka on Raw and then tried to kill her the next night on NXT, a good job, Sean.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he's a page full Ruka, Joe Henry, a bunch more people probably show up on SmackDown this next week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You see, the bump they had Sol Ruka, if I were, if you know what, it was already.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't, I did not love it, and I did not want to watch it more than what?

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[SPEAKER_01]: What, more on?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, what are you doing?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You dip shit Michael.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, they won't be breathless to be stuntmen, not rest and it's fine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Of course, it's an ass-in-ine bump.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, okay, so let's get to this now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We mentioned very, very early in the show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There was some news that came out about Bushy Road.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That is of course the parent company of New Japan pro wrestling, the parent company of startup, pro wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_01]: World Wunder Ring startup.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They took out a huge loan.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, this is not the wrestling company.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So this is the parent company of Bushy Road.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They were the combination of banks because it was such a massive loan.

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[SPEAKER_01]: About was a 10 billion yen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now that sounds like an enormous number.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It isn't enormous number.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It comes up to about $63 million US dollars, just to give you an area.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a lot of money.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it is to help expand their core businesses.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so, Bushy Road, their primary business is not pro wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, lovely, they've got two companies.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Their main thing are those card collection games, right, Jeremy, and mobile phone games, which are a lot of times based on those types of card games.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you probably know more about this than I do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but all all those we we see all those card collection games deck building games all that kind of stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They don't do Pokemon but stuff like that, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's the core business.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's been a struggle for Bushy road lately and they have taken out this usual

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[SPEAKER_01]: It shouldn't, should not affect the wrestling companies unless it fails to turn around the card business and the mobile phone game business.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If that turns around, if they use this money wisely and get their business rolling again, shouldn't really affect the wrestling companies at all.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The worry and what had everybody kind of given it the side eye,

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[SPEAKER_01]: if this doesn't work and it's not going to happen tomorrow we won't know even in a year stuff like this takes a long time these are this is like turning around you know battleship it doesn't happen on a dime but if it doesn't happen now the company has 63 million more dollars in debt than it had last week and the worry is if you start to hear

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[SPEAKER_01]: little corporate phrases like focusing on our core businesses, that's when for sales signs go up for wrestling companies because that might be a way to raise some cash to help finance all these loans and pay back make payments on these loans.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's it is a little bit concerning when the parent company is struggling and you're not

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[SPEAKER_01]: painting this down.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so what would that mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, there's no way of knowing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And again, we don't even know that it is going to happen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But companies that are thriving, thriving, don't have to take out a 10 billion yen loans with four or five different backs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's not the sign of a particularly healthy,

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[SPEAKER_01]: multinational conglomerates.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we're keeping an eye on this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm a little uneasy reading thing because it's just one of those deals where if they do sell it, who buys it, all speculation and completely useless at the moment will jump off that bridge when we get to it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But they're being in a recession probably not healthy, not helping at all.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so world market also not helping.

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[SPEAKER_01]: long way to go, long way to go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But is a good news, new, Sheridan.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And considering the weakness of the end is a good news.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Noxher isn't, I mentioned to Jeremy that I was just looking at the exchange rate.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Japan is actually weaker against the dollar than it was when I went in January, 2025 to restlooking them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And

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[SPEAKER_01]: unless it's weaker than when you went earlier this year, it's trending the wrong direction, which as a tourist, this is great news.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Things are cheaper than they were two years ago, and a lot cheaper than they were when I went in 2019.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So as for tourism,

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[SPEAKER_01]: uh... that just means that more people flooding into Japan for tourism because it's great and it's a wonderful country full of wonderful people but uh... it also means that we're starting to crowd the locals a little bit and the uh... it's caused some problems especially in Kyoto which has a lot of tourists stuff to look at but doesn't have the size of Osaka and Tokyo to absorb it

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[SPEAKER_01]: These are all things that are domino effect on the economy and they're all factors and everything's mixed together on this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But we're going to keep an eye on that and what I would suggest everybody do is root for bushy road to turn business around.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just hope that this works.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I hope that they have a good plan in place and that they'll take this loan and put it in the right spot and get things going again, it says it's a little uncomfortable.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, we talked about it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I saw the news online and then you reached out to me, I don't know, like Tuesday, like, oh, this isn't good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, yep, I saw that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, if we didn't leave you with the analysis because

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[SPEAKER_00]: My analysis on that is, money good, no money bad is, if it makes me quit where I exist on this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But the only thing that I'll add to this is that a lot of people, the first, the first, like, knee jerk reaction to all this is, oh no, WWE might buy a new Japan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There are many, many, many, many things that would have to happen in order for that to become the likewise possibility.

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[SPEAKER_00]: farthest from my mind, including the fact that if any foreign company is going to be buying this, it's probably going to be Tony Cawn rather than WWE.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, I'm just saying like in the list of improbable, that that family is probably more likely to buy it than TKO, they have enough money and capital to do it for example.

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[SPEAKER_01]: completely disagree, I don't think so, and I'll explain why, but first of all, neither one is likely at all.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right, the Japanese government works very hard to regulate things like the same company within Japan.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They take it as their duty to attempt to protect Japanese jobs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And when a foreign company wants to buy a Japanese company, they rightfully and often correctly figure that all the redundancies are going to be in the Tokyo office and that those are the people that are going to be laid off.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So if a company based in London, a company based in New York buys a Japanese company.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, they don't need to marketing divisions, but we don't necessarily need to already, you know, I'm just speaking in generalities.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Which ones are they going to shut down?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, probably the ones are Tokyo.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, that's how this often goes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They try to protect those Japanese jobs and they make it very difficult, not impossible, not impossible, because I'm sure people are probably looking up instances of foreign companies by Japanese companies.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's difficult, not impossible, difficult.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The reason I think that if WWE or Tony Khan, the issue is Tony Khan isn't really a company.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a guy with his dad's money.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So even though he has a lot of company, they're Tony called out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That is made up of a guy with his dad's money.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not a real, like a net in the corporation.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Not bad.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You actually a profitable business man on his own.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If Japan looked at this, so this is this guy's kid, he doesn't, he has a, it's basically a really, really well-financed mom and pop thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not a corporation, which company is more likely to be there in 10 years holding on to Japanese jobs, the answer is WWE of the two.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because maybe the case, they're not going to say the point is none of this is actually going to happen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're not going if it gets sold, it's almost certainly going to be sold something in Japan.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, there's no idea that an American company is just going to swoop in and buy a new Japan because they want to, it doesn't work like that the way it works in the United States, the way

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[SPEAKER_00]: uh... you know don't even go to Japan for whatever reason if another reason to think that like that would be incredibly unlikely because him not going to Japan in the first place is what caused all the issues with the a.e.

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[SPEAKER_00]: w. new Japan negotiations back in 2018 with the contract all that so there's a whole lot of car before the horse here the only thing that i was saying was if you took this as

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[SPEAKER_00]: like this is the pathway for WWE to buy this company.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was trying to say, slow your role.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, there are a number of things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And personally, if there was any company, I believe that the other one who weren't put the company and put in a $7 billion bid for

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[SPEAKER_00]: If a viable thing would probably have a higher bid than WWE, who would probably try to buy it for pennies of the dollars.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's, it's, there's a goal.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It goal speculative.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's, and it's not an auction.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a lot more to it than that with the Japanese regulations.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Brad is mentioning,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Will be a thing where Tony helps fund NJP W to keep things afloat keep mine none of this has happened It's like Bushy Road hasn't had that thing go well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, please, but the thing is like the If Bushy Road term sings around it is fine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just this weird little loan that comes out here where you're just thinking oh boy, maybe they're struggling a little bit more than they had to let on so

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[SPEAKER_01]: and then Jeremy R.S.

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[SPEAKER_01]: is Russell Universe people become a Japanese WWE.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There have been rumors that WWE wants to get into Japan and they apparently went after Noah, not too long ago, but we're turned back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think that even got to the point where they were asking the Japanese

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[SPEAKER_00]: regulatory regulators, if they could, I don't think that ever, I think just the Noah people said no, I think we're just trying to get a foot in the door somewhere and they're putting the door and they're like, yeah, that's all you're getting in the door, okay?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think they had designs on doing

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[SPEAKER_01]: NXT's around the world, the NXT UK, I think they wanted to do an NXT Japan, AAA is kind of like an NXT Mexico now, but back then I think they had designs on kind of creating all these little developmental areas and all the wrestling cultures around the world this years ago.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we're poking around looking at Noah thinking, well maybe we could buy Noah in Cyberfight.

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[SPEAKER_01]: which is a pretty big, I think it's a bigger bushy road that which owns Noah DDT and TJPW those are all cyber fighter pro wrestling companies and I think they just said no we don't we don't we don't need to sell so we're not going to and then have I do want to I do want to mention I think on NFT there was a segment that the age of all NFT segment or want to be shown on effort, winner or blue sky or whatever it is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: that one of the male wrestlers received a gift with Japanese calligraphy on top, signifying that someone from Japan is going to come and wrestle him sometimes soon on NXT, which mainly think it no wrestler, but I have no idea what no wrestler

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then, Council, don't Abima have a deal with WWE.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but Abima can make deals with anybody once.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's nothing exclusive about those.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, again, there's the exclusivity that we see frequently in the United States, isn't as big a deal in Japan, either French or

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[SPEAKER_01]: He announces wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He announces, start him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He announces New Japan.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He announces TJPW sometimes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He turns up for multiple promotions, not all of which are Bushy Road or even Cyber Fight.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's not like what feud between the promotion but Japan.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Brad mentioned that could be either evil or her own.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Also, Jeremy, keep mine like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe so.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Give me evil.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't even know who the guy was, but I just want people to run through that at a T-Rocter.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just give everybody an F.T.T.T.T.T.T.T.T.T.T.T.T.T.T.T.T.T.T.T.T.T.T.T.T.T.T.T.T.T.T.T.T.T.T.T.T.T.T.T.T.T.T.T.T.T.T.T.T.T.T.T.T.T.T.T.T.T.T.T.T.T.T.T.T.T.T.T.T.T.T.T.T.T.T.T.T.T.T.T.T.T.T.T.T.T.T.T.T.T.T.T.T.T.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we just got the law.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's just something that's on your mind.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And to be honest, if we had four shows that we're interesting to talk about this week, this thing probably would have gotten five minutes at the end of it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't want to make this sound like a bigger deal than it is, but just because the quiet that's coming from the New Japan camp this past week, it's on my mind probably more than it would be had the news come out next week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: When we have red zone and highs in no kune to talk about.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, should we look at this thing?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because in these two quirk and hollow shows, Jeremy, the road to done taco was April 19th and April 20th.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that was Sunday and Monday from quirk and haul.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And

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[SPEAKER_01]: The attendance was was pretty rough, but you know, you think it would be with with the lineups they had.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we're not going to.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We are not going to waste everybody's time going through these things matched by Matt.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Share me has some graphs on there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm giving you the photo.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It could have an idea of what what actually was there if you see it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, maybe I'll check that one out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: One thousand 14 fans on Sunday, only 940 on Monday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And of course, that's, you know, during the week, that's it's not unusual for to be down but share me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was looking back because that's one place they had not gone or you get into it for doing that kind of thing in 2026.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They had that dip below a thousand in Corican until Monday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: for this year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I decided to see, well, when was the last time there was a crowd that's small for New Japan in Corican?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was a little bit surprised to find out that it was road to Don Taco in a couple of years ago.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So in 2023, they had two consecutive shows in Coraco and in January.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was the road to New Beginning.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I only bring that up because those

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know that would have been after he lost it, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: 2023.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, look at it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: 2023 is winning.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Got it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is January, 2023 though.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it was coming right off of a wrestle came out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, point is that was those two shows were such outliers to anything else that I only I wonder if there wasn't a blizzard that weekend in Tokyo or something that kept people in the weather or something like that because they do get some severe winter storm sometimes is 700.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's really out there for New Japan to go that low.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But most of the small, corticone crowds are during road to downtown.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's, I don't know whether it's because Golden Week is coming up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because it is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's coming up the end of April into the very beginning of May.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And road to downtown could just doesn't do well at corticone Hall Barrio.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought that was interesting historically.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like the over and over again, some of the lower attended corticone shows for New Japan come this time of year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: April.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I wonder if it's just because people year enough for the holiday week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Don't, you know, it's just rough time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They didn't happen to be getting in the month.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's nothing yet to be having at the end of the month.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they just seem to be taking these off.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, anyway, the show on Sunday was completely inconsequential and unremorable.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was a house show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was just a house show that took place in Cork and Hall.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There were a couple of things at the Monday show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Of course, the main event was a number one contendership match for the WGP tag team titles.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that was to see who would face the knockout brothers on the Saturday show that is coming up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was Hero Kigoto and Yoshihashi against Great O'Con and Henare, earlier in the night, I'm going to back up just a little bit because it does relate to the main event.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Earlier in the night, Shingo Takagi had a match against Zain J, where Shingo is challenging Kalam Numan, the Tantako, Kalam Numan faced Daiting a guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So matches we knew those guys were going to win because it was

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[SPEAKER_01]: each group although I know Zane's gimmick is that he's not a young one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You get the point that the the low sky on the totem pole of the other guys faction.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So on bound company, dieting to guy is the the new face on United Empire's AJ.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So Shingo wrestlers, Jay, Newman faces the guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought they were going to do something interesting because these two matches were back to back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I thought they were going to do something interesting or creative with it where Shingo on Calamite Cross Pass, they did not hope.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They could not be bothered to do anything interesting or creative with it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But what I think the most interesting thing was vain attacking Shingo, if you were making you that trip.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was really the most heat that they went for in that entire thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: New Japan is going almost ECW level with the no disqualifications thing because Zane is now United Empire's whole just using chairs blatantly in front of the referendum not even trying to do distractions anymore and just making these referees stand there and point and are you talking about the great O'Con go to stuff in the made of ed.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, that's where this all leads to.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So Zane J.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just hit some with chairs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no, no, disqualifications or anything like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The referee just kind of gives him a couple of gestures.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Doesn't even bother with it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So what, why are we bothering with anything else?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then we get to the number one contenders match point.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're using chairs right in front of red shoes and all those stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And to the point that Chris Charles and had to mention on commentary that, oh, there's that

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's thinking of the same thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Everybody else is like why the hell isn't he just disqualifying people.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're they're so lazy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They don't even bother to run distractions with this stuff anymore.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Then later on they do distract Red Shoes for no reason because they've already used the chair like three times and then this is the part that I just started laughing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yoshi has she got piled ribbon onto a chair in the middle of the ring and he kicked out popped

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[SPEAKER_01]: chair shots totally ineffective who care you know and maybe that's why they aren't disqualifying them because they don't work in New Japan's universe anymore like you get piled driven on one and it doesn't affect you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a two count and then you just pop right up and start wrestling again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The first of adrenaline returns and wrestling has just been up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: across the board and all and all promotions, you've got to see this in a number of places where the money will take a devastating move and just before they fall to their knees or crumble, they too hit a devastating move.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So stupid.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then both guys end up on the ground and so time to time and fine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But there are moments where it's just like this was not the moment for that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: allow me to do a quick baby boomer impression.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna bitch about something here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I blame video games and this is what I mean Some people grow up playing pro wrestling video games, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: nobody sells in a pro wrestling video game right so you take a move and then you hit your buttons and you hit your little you know the the joystick and you do your things right and you get the right combination and then you get the next offensive move in your little character whoever the hell well there's one you've made or you're playing as somebody or whatever doesn't sell it just does the offensive move

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[SPEAKER_01]: like nothing else that ever happened.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe their lifeline or whatever health line or something is shorter, but it's not like the guy is over there like holding his knee or holding his back or something like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He just pops up and does the big power bomb.

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[SPEAKER_01]: People are wrestling like they're in a video game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If I am on offense, I am fine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't have to sell anything.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so what Yoshi has she takes a file for over our chair kicks out and then just hits a video and then just hits a DDT, like nothing can ever happen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Why are we selling anything?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like a

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the answer is we really are, we just aren't selling.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You've never had more of an okay boomer moment in my mind than just now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But it's making these matches worse.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It sells something for God's sake.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So just pop up and I can't stand the whole land on a German Suplex, hit a German Suplex and then remember that your hurt.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Looks stupid.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And just looks stupid.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it looks fake.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's really what it is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's just a lot of this stuff just looks fake.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just like all the cheerleading towers that they build and tag team matches where four or five guys ran a corner and they all do the tower.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's cheerleading.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's cheerleading.

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[SPEAKER_00]: all right and a match was good not great and you've actually convinced me it was bad.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well okay well and now I'm really gonna mess things up because I'm about to say other than that match went bad.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was just me on myself.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I remember talking to you liking the match a lot at the result of your rant.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sorry.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He says there's a definite correlation between wrestling video games and a lack of selling nice observation.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, everybody just kind of pops right back up, just like the character does in the video games they grow playing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, anyway, so we've got the...

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[SPEAKER_01]: But the action wasn't bad.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's, it's Henare.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's pretty good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Bishamon's one of the best tag teams there are.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Great O'Conn was in this match and looking at us.

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[SPEAKER_00]: One of the go-to versus Henare, if you think of that, should be honest.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not bad.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But in the end, be sure on ended up getting the win.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, this surprised both of us, right, Jeremy?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because last week, we thought that United Empire seemed to have the hot hand.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll say this though.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Be sure on versus the knockout brothers probably a better match than

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know that New Japan loves to cut the legs out from people, but we're getting fishermen and knock out brothers at the very least it's the better of the two matches, although I think an array in Ocon would have done something interesting an array in ice, I'm in for that so.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think we were a loser either way, but Beishman knockout brothers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They have wrestling each other before.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We were debating that indeed, Beishman has beaten the knockout brothers in the past, but there is a title match, big main event tomorrow, or not tomorrow Saturday with that on top, and I'm looking forward to it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is hilariously touched on a point that I was thinking about the other day, what I want to make sure they talked about this on the show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We kind of felt that, you know, it was going to be the other team that won the match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And this is the first time this has happened in 2025.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're quite frankly, every one of our personal booking instinct and direction that the company have wanted to go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They've gone in the complete way off of the direction and it's happened almost every single time in the year that we come on the show and we're like, you know, this would make a lot of sense of you did this and they do the other thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This would make a lot of sense.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They do this and then they do the other thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What are you going to have?

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're experiencing really bad crowds, so maybe they should listen to us more often.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's just one of those things that like it's that it's that it's a printable from the thing that's not me, but like it's the students that are out of touch or is it me and it's like, oh, it must be the student, it must be the student.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, must be the student.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the ship is going to get right it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, there are a lot of things that, you know, do not set forces, you know, it's like feeling like family was going to be the guy that will get a governor play a game kit and to be and draw it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And just one of those like, yeah, that does make more sense than I like that.

53:37.189 --> 53:48.860
[SPEAKER_00]: I like that a little bit more, but boy, I'm just, my instant, because my foot, my, my finger on the pulse just does not feel like it can lock step with the promotion right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm hoping that'll get right in once,

53:52.454 --> 54:16.707
[SPEAKER_00]: the way out for the year become a little bit more like complete you know what I mean like once we get to dominion and we have a card there and you just kind of get an idea of what to ming in and then forbidden or and what do you want it going to be because right now we've got an step one which is what all of it, Calvin Newman above everything else let's just make this guy the guy and I'm like okay now that we've done that

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe we can get a sense of how the rest of the desk we get a set over the rest of the card, like we've been talking about for months, it's bold to prioritize column women over everybody else in this promotion, but this is what they're doing and now that we're doing it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: maybe we're going to be able to navigate this with a little bit uh a little bit better a sense of clarity of what the priorities of the Photoshop.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But this was the match where it was like okay I've had a moment of clarity about this and it's just one of those like no matter what we think it's a sensible direction of how this goes there is doing the other fucking thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Just look at your newscows and see what happens.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And and and got for bit anybody actually gets on a winning streak and appears over, you know, they cut off and looking.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The first thing I thought of too when they announced on trail eat a low, a dry day on trail eat a little under the giant on dry day, a lead a low, I tried to say in both the ones on dry day, L E to low as the opponent, the replacement opponent for a for a Gabe kid.

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[SPEAKER_01]: was, you know, the, just looking at it and thinking, oh my God, they might have sushi loose both belts.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They might actually have him loose both belts here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I just thought, can you make him look like a bigger loser now than that?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think New Japan is under a mistaken delusion that just winning the title is enough and now you're a guy, now you're a main event guy, now you are made.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's nothing more we need to do for you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You have held the belt.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Think if he brought back a fan favorite old belt even.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, that's that's where I'm going with this Jeremy.

55:56.335 --> 55:58.638
[SPEAKER_01]: So he he wins both titles, right?

55:58.978 --> 56:15.338
[SPEAKER_01]: And he says The IWGP title is for Japan and it's from main eventing new Japan shows and it's a new Japan championship, and I'm going to restore it to what it means to the civilian blue and all that the global title that is for

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[SPEAKER_01]: going other places and preaching the gospel of New Japan pro wrestling in other areas.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's what the global title is for.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But the DIVGP championship, the DIVOR title, that is what is the core fundamentals and what do they do?

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[SPEAKER_01]: They might have him fail to hold either one of them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: After all that talk, he's going to lose both of them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, and I'm not saying he's absolutely going to lose on dry anybody might, and just like their whole, all of that, all that yacking, all the bringing back the V4, all of the talk about how he is going to restore New Japan.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Good bye.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and they just beat him and he fails.

56:55.496 --> 57:03.067
[SPEAKER_01]: The story is again that he makes all these proclamations and if he loses the squelable title, the story is, oh, and in five months, he can't hold either one of them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's not good enough to hold either one of them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Why are you people doing it?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Why, what is it?

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[SPEAKER_00]: But all I can say was, like, he just had, he, all he had, he just had to win, put him in a single snatch over and over again to the point

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[SPEAKER_00]: The, what you do with the heel, right?

57:23.382 --> 57:37.749
[SPEAKER_00]: You, you have him beat all your favorite baby faces to the point of like, man, I can't wait to tell that one guy really come again and finally takes that title away from him and maybe, and, and I'll feel like he's the big star now, right?

57:37.789 --> 57:39.052
[SPEAKER_00]: That's what you do with the heel.

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[SPEAKER_00]: When you have a baby face, you have him beat all comeers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: even more than necessary so that when everybody's watching this guy they're like wow man everybody's really behind this guy he always went and then when he finally loses you're like oh man it was a fluke that he lost not that oh I expected him to lose because you know he's just the guy after all yeah and they've lost the step of the cement mix to solidify the guy

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's a very good point and, you know, I go back in New Japan's history when the company was hot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we can talk about the 2000 because Kenny Omega was didn't lose very often.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I understand.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I promise I do understand that, but I'll cut it and lose very often either.

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[SPEAKER_01]: These guys should lose in all the time to people.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, the other thing is like when you go way back in the days, uh, the, you know, we're talking like the 70s, 80s and all that stuff that got these companies and trenched in

58:40.240 --> 58:45.472
[SPEAKER_01]: The foreign heal would be vanquished by the top guy at the end of the tour.

58:45.532 --> 58:47.476
[SPEAKER_01]: They might mow through everybody, right?

58:47.877 --> 58:51.465
[SPEAKER_01]: So a foreign heal, Hulk Hogan.

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[SPEAKER_01]: who eventually was so popular, it wasn't really a heal anymore, but he wasn't first.

58:56.552 --> 59:00.138
[SPEAKER_01]: Dick Murdock, we mentioned killer Carl Croupe was one of the very early New Japan villains.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They would come in and they would win, win, win, win, win, win, but they would lose at the end to anoki.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Bickett always depend on anoki to vanquish the guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Then after that, it was, you know, there were other people, got into Muto, Chono, Hashimoto, and thanks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they had foreign heels then too.

59:15.847 --> 59:23.958
[SPEAKER_01]: But in the end, they would lose the big show at Sumo Hall or at the dome to the hometown guys.

59:24.018 --> 59:28.964
[SPEAKER_01]: So they're belief in the hometown guys may be delayed, but it was rewarded.

59:29.525 --> 59:35.213
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's what they got to get back to is that they're finding people that really, the Brad Mech has said at least, at least it wasn't Jake Lee that beat him.

59:35.233 --> 59:40.139
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, okay, then I read much rather watched Call of Newman matches in Jake Lee matches.

59:40.319 --> 59:41.601
[SPEAKER_01]: That is a fair point.

59:41.581 --> 59:48.670
[SPEAKER_00]: But every time I see Jake Lee for whatever reason into the song, clowns of the left for me, jokers to the right here.

59:48.750 --> 59:50.492
[SPEAKER_00]: I am stuck in the middle with you.

59:50.773 --> 59:53.877
[SPEAKER_00]: That was a song from my head every time I see him now.

59:53.897 --> 59:56.260
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm thinking, license that from Steelers wheel, that'd be good.

59:56.280 --> 01:00:02.107
[SPEAKER_01]: But I have a feeling that because of Pope, our not Pope fiction reservoir nonsense, that's probably more expensive than it used to be.

01:00:03.209 --> 01:00:04.751
[SPEAKER_00]: But he is the clown to the left to me.

01:00:05.792 --> 01:00:06.713
[SPEAKER_00]: And you write empire.

01:00:06.773 --> 01:00:08.095
[SPEAKER_00]: It's the jokers to the right.

01:00:09.712 --> 01:00:13.357
[SPEAKER_01]: The week ahead, now, there's a lot of stuff on NJPW world.

01:00:13.397 --> 01:00:16.081
[SPEAKER_01]: Not all of it, New Japan has a lot of events coming up.

01:00:16.121 --> 01:00:17.403
[SPEAKER_01]: They are hitting the road hard.

01:00:18.485 --> 01:00:21.569
[SPEAKER_01]: So April 24th, that's tomorrow, Friday, April 24th.

01:00:21.589 --> 01:00:28.780
[SPEAKER_01]: They are in HMA, and that is mostly, it's mostly a house show, but you, you, you, more as in the main event, it's his home area.

01:00:28.800 --> 01:00:30.522
[SPEAKER_01]: His hometown.

01:00:30.542 --> 01:00:31.404
[SPEAKER_00]: Just the one on the street.

01:00:31.684 --> 01:00:32.445
[SPEAKER_00]: The opener.

01:00:32.662 --> 01:00:40.850
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and it's Wolf Bolton and Uly Moro versus Ugero, Fale, and Ren Nareda.

01:00:41.131 --> 01:00:42.512
[SPEAKER_01]: So the match won't be very good.

01:00:42.872 --> 01:00:46.316
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, look at that, I was a torch line up there.

01:00:46.436 --> 01:00:48.778
[SPEAKER_01]: Ugero, Fale, and Ren Nareda.

01:00:48.798 --> 01:00:52.262
[SPEAKER_01]: So good luck Uly Moro and Bolton for that matter.

01:00:52.803 --> 01:00:55.125
[SPEAKER_01]: Wolf is still learning in my God.

01:00:55.145 --> 01:01:02.112
[SPEAKER_01]: Can we just start some sort of parliamentary motion in the Japanese government to get him away from House of Torture?

01:01:02.092 --> 01:01:04.854
[SPEAKER_01]: but he's still stuck there and will be for a while.

01:01:05.815 --> 01:01:09.058
[SPEAKER_01]: Saturday, April 25th in Hiroshima, we have red zone.

01:01:09.218 --> 01:01:10.699
[SPEAKER_01]: That is tag team and night.

01:01:10.820 --> 01:01:17.345
[SPEAKER_01]: It's mostly how show again underneath the multi-person tags and young lion matches, but the two top matches in this one, Jeremy.

01:01:18.266 --> 01:01:25.112
[SPEAKER_01]: Robbie X and Taiji Shimori versus Jose Fujida and Robbie Eagles, to me, this is the best match New Japan pro wrestling has.

01:01:26.073 --> 01:01:30.917
[SPEAKER_01]: And then in the main event,

01:01:32.129 --> 01:01:41.619
[SPEAKER_01]: right up there with a knockout, not the first time ever, knockout brothers versus Beishamon, and it is knockout brothers defending the title against Beishamon.

01:01:42.841 --> 01:01:45.564
[SPEAKER_00]: Didn't we establish what we could that actually had never faced each other?

01:01:45.944 --> 01:01:46.304
[SPEAKER_01]: They have.

01:01:47.005 --> 01:01:48.767
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

01:01:48.787 --> 01:01:50.009
[SPEAKER_01]: Great.

01:01:50.029 --> 01:01:54.253
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, that's, so where do you see these going, Jeremy?

01:01:54.293 --> 01:01:55.615
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just going to ask you here.

01:01:56.235 --> 01:01:57.757
[SPEAKER_01]: Where do you see these two guys go?

01:01:58.338 --> 01:02:01.461
[SPEAKER_01]: Do we even want to say out loud

01:02:02.960 --> 01:02:09.996
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, if a TMDK wins, then I don't think Fujita is going to win the best of supergringers.

01:02:10.097 --> 01:02:21.964
[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't think he was going to win it anyways, but I think the idea is to believe that he would, so I would do a retention on this match and have the unbound company retain and then

01:02:24.374 --> 01:02:35.245
[SPEAKER_00]: I would prefer retention from knockout brothers, but given the fact that they don't care about their young talent and keeping them strong, they can do whatever they want.

01:02:36.828 --> 01:02:39.332
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, I agree with the analysis.

01:02:39.733 --> 01:02:43.338
[SPEAKER_01]: It absolutely should be the knockout brothers winning this.

01:02:43.438 --> 01:02:45.021
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think they...

01:02:45.041 --> 01:02:46.383
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it might be really good.

01:02:46.663 --> 01:02:48.086
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's just get that out of the way.

01:02:48.166 --> 01:02:57.521
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I think they're gonna beat the crap out of each other and it's gonna be one of the matches that we're talking about like, hey, you need to go out of your way to see that.

01:02:57.541 --> 01:03:00.585
[SPEAKER_00]: So I mean, the caliber of the talent is absolutely there.

01:03:01.367 --> 01:03:02.869
[SPEAKER_00]: With that said,

01:03:03.676 --> 01:03:16.420
[SPEAKER_00]: I think the general booking decisions of New Japan we need to express caution about the match and how I'm going to feel about it rather than unqualified and do together.

01:03:17.362 --> 01:03:20.087
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, so that's a Hiroshima red zone.

01:03:20.428 --> 01:03:26.841
[SPEAKER_01]: I mentioned that they're in the southwest for a while, so most of the most of these towns once they get to red zone are down that way.

01:03:27.502 --> 01:03:37.041
[SPEAKER_01]: Sunday April 26th is a house show in Yamaguchi that when will be on NJPW World Monday, April 27th, they're also in Yamaguchi, another part of town.

01:03:37.021 --> 01:03:37.742
[SPEAKER_01]: different arena.

01:03:38.183 --> 01:03:45.256
[SPEAKER_01]: That one's not going to be on NJPW World that is strictly just strictly for the live crowd in Yamaguchi.

01:03:45.296 --> 01:03:57.497
[SPEAKER_01]: Then back on NJPW World for Heisen No Kuni on April 29th in Saga, that is the Junior Heavyweight title on top Tiger Mask versus Dokey.

01:03:57.778 --> 01:04:00.683
[SPEAKER_01]: And that is going to be Tiger

01:04:00.663 --> 01:04:12.000
[SPEAKER_01]: Final Harra, not long after that, by the way, I am going to start spending a little bit of time on each episode going over Tiger Masks career, because it is starting to wind down.

01:04:12.120 --> 01:04:27.362
[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to wait until after he's in No Kuni and his title match, but the when we're going to start one of those multi-part deals, like we did for Tomahashi, might not be as long as the Tomahashi won, but I do want to give respect to Tiger Masks.

01:04:27.342 --> 01:04:38.317
[SPEAKER_01]: I encourage everybody to go back on NJPW World if you have time and look at some mid-2000s Tiger Mask and you will see, you will see it.

01:04:38.798 --> 01:04:42.623
[SPEAKER_01]: He was really good when he was younger and Sprire and healthier.

01:04:43.344 --> 01:04:45.787
[SPEAKER_01]: Was he on the level of some of the other Tiger Mask?

01:04:45.807 --> 01:04:49.873
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, the other Tiger

01:04:50.309 --> 01:04:53.604
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Coach, you kind of moto and Mitsuhiro freaking Masawa.

01:04:53.665 --> 01:04:58.547
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's about as hard a list to get on as you pass the arm right there.

01:04:59.860 --> 01:05:00.882
[SPEAKER_01]: Is he as good as those guys?

01:05:00.982 --> 01:05:02.184
[SPEAKER_01]: No, but he's really, really good.

01:05:02.444 --> 01:05:03.626
[SPEAKER_01]: He was really, really good.

01:05:03.946 --> 01:05:06.851
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's worth going back and watching some of those matchers plus.

01:05:06.931 --> 01:05:14.082
[SPEAKER_01]: He was, which we'll get into, actually trained by Siama, the only one that was actually trained by Satur Siama.

01:05:14.122 --> 01:05:22.695
[SPEAKER_01]: So in some ways, when he was younger, he wrestled more like the original Tiger Mask than either the other Tiger Mask did.

01:05:22.675 --> 01:05:24.017
[SPEAKER_01]: Just something to think about it.

01:05:24.438 --> 01:05:28.365
[SPEAKER_01]: I know that right now he's kind of the old guy who doesn't move very well and loses all the time.

01:05:29.286 --> 01:05:30.448
[SPEAKER_01]: Go back to mid 2000s.

01:05:30.548 --> 01:05:32.231
[SPEAKER_01]: You'll see why he's a legend.

01:05:32.331 --> 01:05:38.261
[SPEAKER_01]: You'll see why he's considered one of the key cogs and the new Japan wheel.

01:05:38.922 --> 01:05:39.323
[SPEAKER_01]: It was there.

01:05:39.543 --> 01:05:40.465
[SPEAKER_01]: It was there for a while.

01:05:41.356 --> 01:06:00.512
[SPEAKER_00]: So when I was looking at the match line up onage can 1972, I saw that we haven't really talked about the call that much tiger mask if challenging for dokey right, but dokey is the 99th junior heavyweight champion, yeah.

01:06:01.201 --> 01:06:06.849
[SPEAKER_00]: meaning the next person to win that title is going to be the hundred junior heavyweight champion.

01:06:07.269 --> 01:06:11.375
[SPEAKER_00]: If that's something that is going to be a big deal for a new Japan, do you think?

01:06:11.835 --> 01:06:29.419
[SPEAKER_00]: If that like part of their plan is to make the hundred champion like a big deal kind of staying or it's just a thing because they didn't really do what the tag title, you know that happened recently and whatever and you know I could see a baby face,

01:06:29.602 --> 01:06:36.329
[SPEAKER_00]: should it be an older baby face winning the hundredth or should it be a new first time like hundredth should be kind of a big deal.

01:06:36.970 --> 01:06:38.531
[SPEAKER_01]: It feels like it should be, yeah, but you're right.

01:06:38.551 --> 01:06:41.555
[SPEAKER_01]: They glossed over it completely with the junior tag titles.

01:06:41.675 --> 01:06:42.676
[SPEAKER_01]: They just ignored it.

01:06:43.176 --> 01:06:44.257
[SPEAKER_01]: It was not a thing.

01:06:45.799 --> 01:06:46.740
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't know.

01:06:46.820 --> 01:06:47.861
[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like it should be.

01:06:48.242 --> 01:06:56.250
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, what what do you have right now that will give the fans something to really get behind and just the idea of someone trying to be the

01:06:57.125 --> 01:06:58.687
[SPEAKER_01]: get that 100th mark.

01:06:58.707 --> 01:07:02.851
[SPEAKER_01]: It's such a neat round number and I feel like it should be a thing.

01:07:03.312 --> 01:07:06.916
[SPEAKER_01]: But they completely in order for the junior tag titles.

01:07:07.076 --> 01:07:14.444
[SPEAKER_01]: I can't promise that they're going to, you know, it's, well, upending dokey after a, yeah.

01:07:15.625 --> 01:07:16.847
[SPEAKER_00]: It'll then almost a year.

01:07:17.127 --> 01:07:27.098
[SPEAKER_00]: If not, yeah, then a year by the time that like, like, once the best of the super junior look like

01:07:28.192 --> 01:07:29.454
[SPEAKER_01]: It seems like it ought to be a thing.

01:07:29.934 --> 01:07:30.896
[SPEAKER_01]: It seems like it ought to be a thing.

01:07:30.956 --> 01:07:31.957
[SPEAKER_01]: And it ought to be a big deal.

01:07:32.057 --> 01:07:42.451
[SPEAKER_01]: It should be a big deal whenever dokey gets the throne because in some ways you're k-fabe saving the title from the House of Torture dynamic of them refusing to defend it.

01:07:42.511 --> 01:07:43.832
[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't want to be at wrestle kingdom.

01:07:43.852 --> 01:07:47.497
[SPEAKER_01]: And all this is saving the title from that and those shenanigans.

01:07:48.238 --> 01:07:54.346
[SPEAKER_01]: That should be a big deal in and of itself, making you the 100th and now it's back home and now it's going to be defended on the way.

01:07:54.366 --> 01:07:55.768
[SPEAKER_01]: It should be defended.

01:07:56.018 --> 01:07:57.942
[SPEAKER_01]: there's a story in that.

01:07:58.363 --> 01:08:04.998
[SPEAKER_00]: That's the kind of stuff that gets people invested in the like the promotion, not somebody who wears stories.

01:08:05.178 --> 01:08:11.332
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll bring this up just as somebody who's almost certainly not going to get a lot of votes for Super Junior winner.

01:08:11.793 --> 01:08:15.681
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll watch out for Master Watto because thinking about

01:08:15.762 --> 01:08:19.748
[SPEAKER_01]: How did Mr. Watto debut when he came back from Mexico?

01:08:19.768 --> 01:08:20.790
[SPEAKER_01]: He was attacked by Doki.

01:08:21.491 --> 01:08:22.332
[SPEAKER_01]: His very first night.

01:08:23.133 --> 01:08:24.496
[SPEAKER_01]: And then that was his first feud.

01:08:24.536 --> 01:08:26.038
[SPEAKER_01]: Those two have been linked.

01:08:26.058 --> 01:08:32.147
[SPEAKER_01]: Remember, Doki said that part of the reason he joined House of Tortures, he could not be in a faction with Mr. Watto.

01:08:32.288 --> 01:08:37.035
[SPEAKER_01]: And when he saw Taichi and the rest of the guys joined up, he said, this is revolting.

01:08:37.095 --> 01:08:37.636
[SPEAKER_01]: I can't go.

01:08:37.656 --> 01:08:39.559
[SPEAKER_01]: And he mentioned this all the time.

01:08:39.539 --> 01:08:46.377
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, like the trade by the fact that they all joined a faction he wanted nothing to do with it like I'm doing that's for screw you guys

01:08:46.660 --> 01:09:11.368
[SPEAKER_01]: a little well that was part of it right because they were trying to figure out a justification for why the hell he did it which was it's it was weak but it was there and these two have been inextricably linked really all of what those careers been tormented by dokey in some kind of way so you know look out for that as an underdog pick for super juniors because of that story the idea that I can be the one that that you could be one for dokey

01:09:11.703 --> 01:09:12.364
[SPEAKER_00]: Are they in the game?

01:09:12.785 --> 01:09:13.065
[SPEAKER_00]: Walked.

01:09:13.165 --> 01:09:13.686
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't even know.

01:09:13.706 --> 01:09:13.907
[SPEAKER_01]: Thanks.

01:09:14.087 --> 01:09:16.571
[SPEAKER_00]: So we're previewing in a couple of weeks.

01:09:16.671 --> 01:09:17.332
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not.

01:09:18.013 --> 01:09:21.198
[SPEAKER_00]: I've done heavy analysis of the best of the super junior type all the time.

01:09:21.258 --> 01:09:21.619
[SPEAKER_00]: Everybody.

01:09:22.360 --> 01:09:22.901
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:09:23.342 --> 01:09:27.829
[SPEAKER_01]: So there's something to think about folks that that Watson and Doki have a long history.

01:09:28.590 --> 01:09:29.331
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah.

01:09:29.371 --> 01:09:30.754
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's what's going on this week.

01:09:30.794 --> 01:09:32.356
[SPEAKER_01]: So I mentioned highs in No Kuni.

01:09:32.376 --> 01:09:34.740
[SPEAKER_01]: That's going to be on Wednesday.

01:09:34.906 --> 01:09:37.349
[SPEAKER_01]: And so that's the junior heavyweight title match.

01:09:37.369 --> 01:09:39.271
[SPEAKER_01]: And then after that, it's still going.

01:09:39.311 --> 01:09:47.682
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, like all the way until not all of it's going to be on NJPW World, but then we come up to the two night Don Taco event in Fukuoka.

01:09:47.762 --> 01:09:50.085
[SPEAKER_01]: So that they're bringing meestiko in for that one.

01:09:50.726 --> 01:09:52.167
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, there are a couple of things.

01:09:52.948 --> 01:09:56.413
[SPEAKER_01]: Some weird stuff like Takeshta and Shota Umino is a tag team.

01:09:57.294 --> 01:10:02.280
[SPEAKER_01]: So they are sprinkling some stuff on the underneath parts of these cards.

01:10:02.260 --> 01:10:03.983
[SPEAKER_01]: to bring a little more interest.

01:10:04.744 --> 01:10:22.750
[SPEAKER_01]: The stuff on top, we've got the big title matches, that's going to take care of itself, but I appreciate Jeremy that doing little things like Mystico, and I mentioned the weird odd couple tag team and things just so that the first half of the card is totally perfunctory.

01:10:23.320 --> 01:10:40.717
[SPEAKER_00]: So next week, we previewed on talk, yes, the week after we recap done talk and a new Japan road and we're also previewing back to Super Junior if because the week after Thursday the 14th, it actually the first day of the best of the Super Junior.

01:10:41.478 --> 01:10:43.420
[SPEAKER_00]: So we're in it now.

01:10:44.681 --> 01:10:44.982
[SPEAKER_01]: We are.

01:10:45.382 --> 01:10:47.364
[SPEAKER_00]: And his breadman too, the quiet shows.

01:10:48.025 --> 01:10:53.310
[SPEAKER_01]: CMLO and unsfantastic

01:10:53.797 --> 01:11:15.130
[SPEAKER_01]: one of their bigger shows in that it's it's not part of the $10 tier like it when you when you have the the $10 tier on YouTube you get the Friday shows on a 10 day delay and that's what i that's what i have currently so i get the Friday shows 10 days after they happen i get a couple of their shows throughout the week live.

01:11:15.920 --> 01:11:26.744
[SPEAKER_01]: But that Phantascomania one and Leandas, the legends show, the anniversary show, the only way you can see those is to go up to the legends here.

01:11:26.865 --> 01:11:30.573
[SPEAKER_01]: So they are essentially $30 paper views is really what that is.

01:11:31.214 --> 01:11:33.760
[SPEAKER_01]: And Phantascomania is become one of those.

01:11:33.740 --> 01:11:47.361
[SPEAKER_01]: So they're building that up in CML, quite a bit too, and of course they brought start Micah's been there not too long ago, FWC was there for a while, that's Husky and Coguma.

01:11:47.442 --> 01:12:00.816
[SPEAKER_01]: There's there've been a lot of new start them in New Japan talent at UW talent coming into Friday nights just saw Mystico Kevin night and Mike Bailey is a matter of fact on there.

01:12:00.836 --> 01:12:01.456
[SPEAKER_01]: So different.

01:12:01.476 --> 01:12:01.997
[SPEAKER_01]: It was nice.

01:12:02.417 --> 01:12:03.298
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:12:03.318 --> 01:12:03.679
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.

01:12:03.699 --> 01:12:07.042
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sorry you're late too, because we're not too far away from our wrap it up your buddy.

01:12:07.803 --> 01:12:10.846
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but anyway, so that's going to be a big event.

01:12:10.926 --> 01:12:13.669
[SPEAKER_01]: Another New Japan thing.

01:12:13.885 --> 01:12:37.159
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a very busy time in the schedule right now as we as we start kicking in this Stuntaku road to through Super Junior's all the way to Dominion really I mean the next real kind of Quiet time is going to be post Dominion Not even really because then that it's forbidden door and then there's G1 right after work because they've always like I think they have June forbidden door at the end of June and then she wanted the middle July

01:12:37.578 --> 01:12:41.442
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they just might not load up the house show circuit during that period is what I mean.

01:12:41.462 --> 01:12:43.624
[SPEAKER_01]: So it won't be like four shows a week.

01:12:43.644 --> 01:12:51.711
[SPEAKER_01]: It'll, there'll be kinds of questions once, but that's, that's usually when they ease off the house show circuit and they're going to get a healthy before the G1 right now.

01:12:52.051 --> 01:12:52.231
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:12:52.251 --> 01:12:52.792
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, exactly.

01:12:52.892 --> 01:12:53.853
[SPEAKER_00]: It's awful.

01:12:54.013 --> 01:12:54.894
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:12:54.914 --> 01:12:55.795
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm surprised anyway.

01:12:56.155 --> 01:12:59.999
[SPEAKER_00]: Guys, they're going to, they're going to get whatever rest and rehabilitation they need.

01:13:00.599 --> 01:13:04.783
[SPEAKER_00]: And then, you know, end of May back to it.

01:13:05.303 --> 01:13:11.736
[SPEAKER_01]: So when the juniors can show finally after they have their run, so the junior heavy weights can get their G1 time off.

01:13:12.391 --> 01:13:33.202
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, so we will be back next week to take a look at the red zone, the two tag team title matches that we are very excited about anything that happens in AMA or Yamaguchi this worth mentioning, we'll bring that up and then he's in no kuni tiger mass final shot at the junior heavyweight title and then Colin is asking, did we see the video of June, Kassai, Reney, Masha, Despy, and other eating and drinking after competing in Vegas.

01:13:33.603 --> 01:13:35.886
[SPEAKER_01]: So I haven't seen that yet.

01:13:36.287 --> 01:13:41.014
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm glad everybody had a good time.

01:13:41.602 --> 01:13:59.157
[SPEAKER_01]: No, that was Cere, Cere, Cere playing slots in the airport waiting for her plane and hit $6,300, it's a hand bay and they don't just print you out of ticket, you got to fill out tax forms when you get up into that range.

01:13:59.217 --> 01:14:11.608
[SPEAKER_01]: So she hit $6,300 at the airport and Jeremy, those are considered some of the tightest slots

01:14:11.588 --> 01:14:24.749
[SPEAKER_00]: No, not if we are, but even harder than most I get a 6,300 in the airport in Fernando wanted to know if we have any favorites for the G1 you mean like being in the G1 or winning the G1.

01:14:24.809 --> 01:14:28.414
[SPEAKER_00]: Because I'm not going to say you, you, you, I want you to win the G1.

01:14:28.995 --> 01:14:30.778
[SPEAKER_00]: But like.

01:14:31.130 --> 01:14:38.908
[SPEAKER_00]: I want you to be facing Yoda for the title and there's a lot of things that need to happen in order for us to be in that direction.

01:14:39.009 --> 01:14:40.051
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm going to go with you.

01:14:40.332 --> 01:14:45.544
[SPEAKER_01]: We are winning the G1 this year for the end of if he is not the champion.

01:14:45.625 --> 01:14:47.528
[SPEAKER_01]: Yoda winning jail.

01:14:47.628 --> 01:14:50.433
[SPEAKER_01]: If he's not the champion going into it, that's who I would think right now.

01:14:50.573 --> 01:14:52.316
[SPEAKER_01]: But again, we still have done talk.

01:14:52.336 --> 01:14:53.538
[SPEAKER_01]: We still have dominion.

01:14:53.598 --> 01:15:05.517
[SPEAKER_01]: So things might become a little more clear as we get early, but right now sitting here on April 23rd, I would say Yoda Suji unless he has regained the championship.

01:15:05.597 --> 01:15:07.380
[SPEAKER_01]: If he regains their championship, then no.

01:15:07.360 --> 01:15:14.191
[SPEAKER_00]: It would be wild if it wasn't Yota Suji challenging Calum Newman Domingon, and it was somebody else who won the title off of him.

01:15:14.552 --> 01:15:29.976
[SPEAKER_00]: And then all of a sudden, like we have a brand new, like G-Native Japanese talent, that is the IWGP champion at Domingon filmed on TV as saw he and going into the G-1, and then he's got to be protected, it's like this top talent that can't lose all the time.

01:15:31.178 --> 01:15:32.220
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, that's gonna be wild.

01:15:33.702 --> 01:15:43.476
[SPEAKER_00]: We have a long way to go until that we have a destination for the end of summer with a lot of twists and turns on that mountain road to get there.

01:15:45.278 --> 01:15:48.160
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, well, we'll be, and we'll be covering all of them right here on the show.

01:15:48.181 --> 01:15:57.969
[SPEAKER_01]: So when we when we come back next week, like as I mentioned, Red Zone, Isaac Nocuni, and then we will be looking ahead to a two night wrestling Don Taco in Fukuoka.

01:15:57.989 --> 01:16:01.832
[SPEAKER_01]: So that will be a pretty full show right here next week.

01:16:01.892 --> 01:16:07.657
[SPEAKER_01]: So we're going to wrap it up here for now on a quiet week for New Japan pro wrestling.

01:16:07.677 --> 01:16:08.438
[SPEAKER_01]: I want to thank Brad.

01:16:08.598 --> 01:16:10.420
[SPEAKER_01]: I want to thank Fernando for coming in.

01:16:11.541 --> 01:16:14.323
[SPEAKER_01]: Colin,

01:16:14.472 --> 01:16:14.933
[SPEAKER_01]: that did.

01:16:15.474 --> 01:16:21.466
[SPEAKER_01]: We're grateful for your time, whether you're watching us live here on YouTube, don't forget to like and subscribe, that really does help.

01:16:21.666 --> 01:16:23.489
[SPEAKER_01]: People say that all the time, really does help.

01:16:23.510 --> 01:16:29.922
[SPEAKER_01]: And then for the folks there listening later on a podcast, we're grateful for your time for sure, and we will be back next week.

01:16:29.942 --> 01:16:31.986
[SPEAKER_01]: So for Jeremy Feinstein, I'm Stephen Conway.

01:16:32.046 --> 01:16:35.653
[SPEAKER_01]: This has been Speaking of Strong Style, and we will talk to everyone again, real soon.