NJPW News: Gabe Kidd Injured, Callum Newman’s Reign, & Sakura Genesis History | Speaking of Strong Style

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's WrestleMania week and it's a quiet week for New Japan pro wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Some of the people are over in the United States around the Las Vegas area.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's a show tonight.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There are a few other miscellaneous shows going throughout the weekend.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But other than that, it's been a pretty quiet period for New Japan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Not so quiet that they didn't get a piece of bad news.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Then we'll talk about that messes up one of the big title matches at wrestling downtown.

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[SPEAKER_00]: spend that kind of year for New Japan so far.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to take a look at a couple of core can haul shows that are coming up, so we will preview those, see where those story lines lead, talk a little bit about the new IWGP World Heavyweight Champion, talk about that injury, and a few other miscellaneous things as we go along.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So with Jeremy Feinstein, I'm Stephen Conway, and this is Speaking of Strong Style.

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[SPEAKER_00]: welcome everyone to speaking of strong style we discussed the news issues and events surrounding new Japan pro wrestling we're contributors to the fight game media network want to say hello to the folks that are watching us live columnist here we have a brand is here nick graves is here excellent excellent but see you guys however buddy

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[SPEAKER_00]: So Jeremy, you have had, you have had a busy week because you've been covering the AEW paper for who you've been filling in on some of the other fight game media podcasts regarding AEW and of course this, I got to talk about your favorite promotion for the majority of the week, Steven.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I just, we're gonna get started.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Remember the, cover the big stuff, what do you got?

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[SPEAKER_00]: But you had a big paper view, and this is the time of year when AEW and New Japan intertwined more than normal, let's say.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The events on Sunday had an impact on Don Taku and not in the way everyone had hoped.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't in terms of building a match, but a rather unfortunate situation has cost New Japan a major match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Gabriel Kid injured in his match at a dynasty and is out for Don Taku, they will have to find a new opponent for Yoda Suji and that global championship, which New Japan says will still be defended at Don Taku, they have not as of.

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[SPEAKER_00]: this airing doing this show live named a replacement for Gabe Kid yet with the with our luck Jeremy maybe it's out by the time the show ends because at the time the time difference releases to Friday morning in Japan and they'll make a announcement.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It sounds to me like they are crossers looking dotting ideas I can look into the baby got ideas but I mean what what happened

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[SPEAKER_00]: What happened with the game did you see the injury you were watching the show live what what did you get a sense of yes and no I was watching the show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I decided to use the restroom and back with that time so I saw the clip after the fact and it was title Riley Going over the top rope and doing a dive on the game kid who's on

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[SPEAKER_01]: on the ground.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He went on the ground and the next time he came around the right side, he was clutching his wrist.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he knocked Kyle right down and then the doctor attended to him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I actually texted Brian Albert who got the show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It said, if he heard, he was a Sherlock blanket and then almost immediately there was something

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[SPEAKER_01]: Pretty much out of the match from that point on and the match was the kind of the breather between two of the single matches at the top of the card will all spray and and modfully and then the made of that.

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[UNKNOWN]: So

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was a title match for the AEW six band titles, the dogs ended up dropping the title to the conglomeration.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And in hindsight, this match seems almost unnecessary to the grand scheme

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[SPEAKER_01]: As in, I don't think you ought to see you're going to be having that belt after a security genesis.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so who knows that the plan is out there, but you know, for me, okay, the obvious answer is David Finley.

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[SPEAKER_01]: where you just go to AEW and you're like, hey, we have a story to tell with you to Suji here, the outsider is coming in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Taichi is out there on social media, talking about like he'd be a great candidate for it, but he doesn't fit that narrative of the story that they're trying to tell with you the Suji.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So they need to find an outsider for all intents and purposes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: David Finley should and could be the guy that's asked to be negotiations.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He doesn't work for the company anymore.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He just left.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can do the outsider coming in invading.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is all leading to presumably forbidden door.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The global title on the line, afferbidden door with a new Japan guy, fighting for it in June, Africa, Georgia,

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[SPEAKER_01]: just seem like the direction that they should be going going into the summertime.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's all the information I've been kind of deferring.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It just, you know, like the Gabe Kid thing, just suck, man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is, this is the cost of dual contract.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You cannot count on the guy staying

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[SPEAKER_01]: upending whatever you have planned for your top guys when you're trying to build them into top guys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So this is, this is the, this is the backhand of cooperation things that you cannot control.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm used to Kylo Riley being the one who gets hurt and all of his matches little long.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But he else right there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, he said, right in the lock.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm a big fan of Kylo Riley.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The dude just can't not stay healthy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It seems like sometimes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But now here it is and it's been a Gabe kid unfortunately.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let me ask you this, Jeremy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You are far more up on AEW than I am and and.

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[SPEAKER_00]: With the idea that this match at Don Taka was almost certainly going to be sugy retaining the global title, then leading to a match at forbidden door, do you think the original, I think it was true that you would get a retain at the Tokyo.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You think he was going to lose the game kid of don't talk and maybe get I think there's I think there's a lot that was adjusted to me that that was probably the plan, but I don't know twice in two months got this company.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, let's does just hope.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, Jeremy or a year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I think.

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[SPEAKER_01]: putting him in a position to look victorious at the big show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We talked about this with Dominion or talking to all the left turns, you know, like maybe putting him back in a title shot there at a big show and then for Ben Doris another bit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I mentioned this to New Japan that it's a, and I just want to remind New Japan that it is a Japanese wrestling company.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So perhaps maybe throwing this out there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It would be more intelligent for your Japanese stars to look strong on the Japanese shows and not have them lose in Japan so that they can win it back in front of a couple of thousand people in San Jose, California, forbidden door.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Which, by the way, folks, we'll mention that later.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We don't know what's going to happen now because they have to re figure their plans.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Whatever the match was with Gabe Kid, whether he was going to win or not, that matter anymore.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If he was going to lose in Japan and win in the United States, just more dumb decisions from a company that's making a lot of dumb decisions.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Moving on, though, for Bittendor is going to be in San Jose, California, Jeremy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If only we had somebody in San Jose, if they come any closer to you, Jeremy, you were going

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, number one, there have been a number of foamos, where I'm like, man, should I go to Canada to go see for Bendoor?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Or should I go to New York or should I go to UK?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the answer is no, I shouldn't go to all these things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But one of these days, I'm gonna go to a forbidden door.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So imagine my surprise when I'm at home yesterday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And again, attempts for a friend, and it's like, oh, hey, according to the local newspaper, AEW forbidden door is coming to my local arena.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Five minutes away from my house in the middle of June.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm just like, huh.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, okay, for people who are not clear with this, this has been my year with New Japan so far.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I went to the Tokyo Dole for Ocada and Takeshita.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've done a couple of AEW show with New Japan talent on them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Then I plan to go to the G1, when I wasn't planning to go to the G1, what's the left or because the community of New Japan podcast for everything are all going to play.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what the terms are your great idea?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I get to go ahead.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think, wow, I'm really lucky.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I get to go to the G1.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I get to go to a wrestling kingdom.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What more can a guy ask for?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Then this thing dropped in my lap.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, okay, well, I guess I can ask for that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And frankly speaking, there's no way I can't go with it literally in my backyard.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And even, I do AEW podcast.

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[SPEAKER_01]: recapping paper views.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This means that I could go to this paper view live, come home, and directly podcast about the show from the seat within 30 minutes of the show ending.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There you go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's it you didn't even have to ask work.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They just came to you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm I'm very lucky.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm very fortunate.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I do think that's how everything to do with Dave.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, through what you said, okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it does to.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think they want them to attend to you, but the

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[SPEAKER_00]: The key is you and I have been very fortunate with a lot of this stuff because remember in 2019, I don't live in Dallas, but Dallas is just a few hours drive and that's where the G1 came in 2019.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I got to see day one of the G1 here and I got to see Tana Hashio Kata and sometimes when they come right to you like that you can't help but go and sometimes it just ends up in a wheelhouse.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm glad for you, you get to see it in San Jose.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, the first one I ever went to a Trump style of all because I was like, I really want to see the buck's first ship versus a blue sheet and can he'll make it, which ended up being one of those all time or matches that people still talk to you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can see me on the hard camp.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm literally just right there going on like my job, I'm probably like this is changing my life and I realize it as I'm watching it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, I went to the right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I went to the Madison Square Garden show with a new span and ring of honor.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I've had all the adventures of going to the battles and the valley for the last couple of years.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I really didn't know why there was no battle on the valley this year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It made no sense.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I said, OK, look it on like the itinerary for a new Japan.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They just go there every year and loan behold.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is why they're waiting later on in the year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: OK, Jeremy, I want to stop here.

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[UNKNOWN]: We're

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[SPEAKER_00]: Can you just hold off?

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're losing a little bit on this here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't know if the connections go to not, but we lost a lot of that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So hopefully I'll just straighten some flies right here in a little while.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, well, I mean, there's nothing you can do about it, but just to keep might have to run some of that back, if you don't mind, a brief recap of what you just said.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what part you heard and what you didn't, but basically I look just.

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[SPEAKER_01]: have in a really great time understanding that like this has been a very fortunate year for me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I am glad and with all the shows that we've seen knowing that battle in the valley doesn't happen this year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now I know why.

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[SPEAKER_01]: with this forbidden door show happening.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Gosh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel very lucky and sometimes it's like, oh, maybe I won't have a niche fan podcast and that by the way that some of these things have lined up and I don't want to say it gives me meaning, but I really do look forward to this and I'm very thankful for the opportunities.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Then I will not aware would be presented to me just by committing to doing this with you for the last few years.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Very cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's get to a couple of comments.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm glad for you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I really am Jeremy or says he's going to see start him in TJP W this week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so Jeremy, you're off in Vegas.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm here at your their life.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I have a question for everybody who's watching why, but I'm going to get to these other comments first and there's something I wanted to ask all of you guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But Nick Reeves mentions the chickens of winning double gold had come home to roost because of a problem.

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[SPEAKER_00]: New Japan themselves created the tale of old as time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And now they have to scramble.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now they just have to put it in the problem of having two boats and you have to lose two boats exactly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And if they're doing it in successively like that, he also mentions that Jeremy is giving me the

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[SPEAKER_01]: Has anybody virtual hug?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sorry.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, it used to be the main town for the Central States territory back in the Dallas and like the 70s and 80s and things and that was that was always kind of a rough territory.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It had never, well, the Bob Geigel was the guy that was that owned it and he was kind of considered a bit of a skin flint there was not real generous with the payoffs, hardly race on the piece of it for a while and they got a couple of world title switches and Kansas City used to be a regular

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[SPEAKER_00]: And now it is, it seems to, it gets rose and it gets SmackDown's and it might get a dynamite every once in a while, but it has lost a little of its, of its steam.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So the fans in Kansas City are left out a lot with these major cards and things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And of course, uh,

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, the one, of course, the one famous one they had, I think I believe that's where Owen Hart died.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Didn't in Kansas City.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was that accident.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I mean, it's just like these things where these poor fans are terrific fans in Kansas City and just like he said, they just don't get nice things given to him nearly off and enough.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So Stephen, you want to know something kind of funny about my 20, 20 sets and run of wrestling shows?

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[SPEAKER_00]: What's that?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I would consider it a near-perfect drug so far.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know why?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hmm.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I managed to avoid the WWE SmackDown that ran through by area and it turned out to be a but don't show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So Brad mentioned, say, this is my wife and I took Kathy to forbidden door when it was in Long Island.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was so much fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: First time starting was there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We saw our favorite Tam Nikano and Kathy flipped out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's awesome.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you're not on a, you're not on Ets, Steven, even though I tag you on whatever, just your, your ethical reasons I'd ever go to read between the lives there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: On Brad, we tagged me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We have to be wise.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You want, you want, you want me to go with you?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I have to go, I will, I will get a speak for you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, right, Brad put the challenge to me when there was an errand wolf headband that looked like a wolf like a cartoon wolf that you wear like a band and he had dared me to wear this headband for one full episode of speaking strong style when it comes to minimal and I thought perhaps I would surprise you with this when it actually happened.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I decided now, Steven, we operate on a relationship of trust and honesty, and I wanted to come clean with you about this, uh, bit of, uh, Tom Fulry that I had planned.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, some shenanigans going on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Shenanigans.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's the name of the restaurant.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's shenanigans.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we've got a couple of things here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, Kyle is asking, did anyone watch the T.J. P. W. Show from Vegas earlier?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just check Rental University.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just check Rental University, I just check Rental University universe.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't see it on there yet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So might be in demand and coming up later.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He said the inspiration still have the tagging titles unfortunately.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think they're going to draw that out for a little while.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Nick Reeves mentioned if I weren't already traveling a few weeks before the G1, I might have made a quick trip to Chicago.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Kansas City of Chicago is not bad.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's a good point.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You can go there to see some stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Jeremy says, I am able to stream, oh, two expensive, the first time seeing a, first time seeing a startup show for Jeremy or there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, Colin's saying it's untriller.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I don't have the triller.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, I will see what about, I will see it eventually.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, yeah, I am.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, here's the question on I asked Jeremy, if you don't mind because it's gonna require some people getting back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I wanna ask everybody that's here live, and it's mainly a weekend.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What are you looking forward to most this weekend?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Doesn't have to be mania if it's not.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And here's my answer on this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm actually excited about one and only one match from the two nights of WrestleMania.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's going to be some good wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, Drew McIntyre and Jacob Fattu would probably be pretty good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Seth's match against Gunthero probably would be a good match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I'm looking forward to seeing Brock versus Oba Fabi.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think they did a good job building this lineup.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's going to be on ESPN.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't have to pay extra for it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm excited about that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Toon in for an hour, get a ladder match and get a little hot fight.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm excited about that one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And there are other things like the starting show TJPW Show of course.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm curious for the folks here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That doesn't have to be WWE.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Put in the comments, what are you looking forward to most this WrestleMania weekend?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Colin is already answering.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So the spark Joshee and plus stardom shows.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he's there for the for the women's wrestling this in town.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's a strong lineup of women's wrestling going on in Vegas this weekend.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's very true.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's what he's in for.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and I will read them off as they come up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm curious to hear what everybody's excited about.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And last week, I spent an alarming amount of time knocking at EW around.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just kind of had fun with it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I went off on a little rant, but you did!

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[SPEAKER_00]: And if I could just say to all my brothers and sisters and siblings of all types out there, those of you who have suffered through the build-up to WrestleMania, my thoughts in prayer are with you because who, TKO is doing everything they can to ruin this show with all of these.

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[SPEAKER_00]: God awful celebrities and whack-a-do angles and Jeremy from all indications not to get into the whole WWE thing, but

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[SPEAKER_00]: it just sounds like there's a lot of outside interference that don't involve old school pro wrestling managers going on over there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This build up has been an utter mess.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So again, American wrestling is just really having a hard time right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So the the

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[SPEAKER_01]: The plug that I appreciate you handing me here is that I will be doing night one recap of WrestleMania with Gary Gonzalez for the fight game union at work.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And my host from the Dynamite show replacement, Kiel Cash will be alongside salty Scott Young for night two for these shows.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I committed to this a while back, because I just I like doing the WrestleMania things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Stephen, I'll be honest with you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is the least interested I've been in WrestleMania

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, according to ticket sales, you're not the only one who's sitting this long.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And just like nothing seems expired.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, there were injury and a number of other things, but I went to Vegas last year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was asked by a 4W to go and participate and to kind of help like keep the wheel churning with firm stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And like when I was there, the overwhelming feeling I had from WWE was arrogance.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like they were just the the cock of the walk just the whole deal, we're like, our shit doesn't stink and everything that we do, these idiot fans just work it up with this strong, you know, they just they felt like it just felt like you couldn't do anything wrong, whatever we were going to give you, you were going to like and

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're a year later, this was supposed to be in New Orleans.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not because of the Saudi Arabia stuff and moving it back to Vegas for whatever the reasons it was, I don't even remember what it was at this point, but in it ended up in Vegas.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it wasn't expensive to tell last year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't any more expensive this year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought about going, and it's more expensive this year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and it's just like, I thought about going.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if you're like, but I don't want to go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I woke up this morning and I went to work and I was like, I'm really glad I'm not going, you know, like the fighting about the forbidden door and

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think there are matches on both current that are good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think the final run for Stephanie Vickier of the care and with Morgan has me very, very interested.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like the the real stuff, what they managed to turn into like a story line, I'm into it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The Brock and Oba thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm into it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to see what they do with Roman and punk because it's their main event angle.

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[SPEAKER_01]: you know, like, I meant to it, but up and down the card, it's just like, I don't care who wins.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't care who loses.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And when Monday comes around, I'm not sure it's really going to matter.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just like the wheel just keeps turning.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it never felt more in college than going to watch.

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[SPEAKER_01]: WWE, whereas I can turn around and I can see people watching at UW, and I see this star be out when, and people are really invested in it, good or bad, like there is a response to what happened here, and I thought it was really interesting that AEW chose this week, the Wednesday before all the WrestleMania staff can't solve, to put a new champion out there and try and steal some thunder.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like,

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a competitive move.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I see why you did it this week and not next week or two weeks for now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know there is the MJF thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He is apparently off to film a movie.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I fully expect him to come back and get that title at some point and then it sits leaves because of the way that the title change was done.

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[SPEAKER_01]: With that being said, I think you know they're deciding the week of the theme that I was looking forward to.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was looking forward to how they did

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[SPEAKER_01]: on this show on Dynamite.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm not necessarily watching any of the indie shows.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This weekend, I'm kind of using it as a recharge to the batteries, a mentality.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I might try and check out CMLL.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But we're gonna preview this death day, give some potential thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I ran down the car and now it's like putting all together, I'm like, no, not 23 dollars, not doing that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I just, and it's just not for me, this weekend, Steven.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I am, I am interested in things to come, not things this week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's take a look at what the folks watching us live are into.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What we've got.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Colin is into the spark.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Joe Sheen, Stardom, shows I mentioned.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Brad is into Stardom and MLP looks intriguing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He says he's interested in half of the death biggest invitation on the non-GSCW stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Spark looks great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So a couple of votes for Spark.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Jeremy says, Stardom, House of Glory, looks good and TJPW.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Again, the Joe Sheen seemed to be taking center stage

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, Brad one is sandman versus the invisible man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just want to see how the sandman works.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Good Lord if that is retirement match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Nick says the only non-manious home interested in is the desk base show and that's more because I like the Japanese producers and that because the show looks good go to the next one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, Colin says, he oversees Asuka isn't on the Maniacard, which is ridiculous.

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[SPEAKER_00]: After all, the work Asuka, E.O.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and Kyrie have done.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't understand what they're doing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Edward WWE's deal with that one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That is such a fantastic misread of the room that I hope that during one of those other matches, and I'm sorry for the talent it happens to you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I hope that crowd just start chatting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We want E.O.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, Collin is on to something here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that EO will be involved in the reaversus J. Mash.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, Jade has no vote, but again, I don't agree with it, but I think this is what WWE is going to do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Jade has her allies, her friends, what Mechan, and was a Lash legend.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I guess that EO I legend, it was the girlfriend.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, we're not Lash legend, it's B-Fab.

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[SPEAKER_01]: B-Fab, thank you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, sorry, um, my apologies on that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Eo, I think we'll hit a very impressive dive onto those two when they try to interfere.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, give me a shit if she does a dive in another boat, Matt.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, I did.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, the guy and Eo have been a few that they've been building for two fucking years.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they're going to put it on backlash because

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[SPEAKER_01]: They have too many matches.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Get the fuck out of here with that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What where will I show speed wrestle if not if you don't get it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't give a shit about macrophie.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't give a shit about any of these people.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Really?

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're finding out there are more of you than they thought.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Why are you yelling at me?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't book this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I have an opportunity on a platform to go AEW hot in me on WWE right now and I decided you know what?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just going to take the bait.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, no.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to go off the ring.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I agree with you on the celebrity stuff and this is all TKO that's jumping in on this stuff saying we need to get influencers and we need, we need macophie so that ESPN is talking about it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We need

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[SPEAKER_00]: This, so we get so many X number of YouTube hits and all this stuff and and eventually all these why don't we just make it celebrity wrestling like they used to have celebrity boxing on Fox and just not have any wrestlers on it and we'll just have famous people from other walks of life trying pro wrestling we're not terribly far from that and as far as WrestleMania goes we used to joke on this show Jeremy that this is going to be the last WrestleMania on American soil might not me there's a

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[SPEAKER_00]: Flip and war going on in Saudi Arabia where this thing is supposed to be next year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They've already canceled formula one races.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And if you know what it takes for formula one to turn down money, holy Lord, imagine it's that if you can get formula one to cancel something, anything can be canceled because that's so they might need to find another place to have this thing next year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I just looked at WrestleTix.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I did look at that 43,000 at this point for both night.

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[SPEAKER_00]: don't you think it's funny that so I mean it's a two night event it's in so all that stuff but so far wrestle kingdom more people for one night then can get although they're going to lie about that by the way whatever number they're going to announce this weekend why they're going to get out so many tickets tomorrow it's going to be ridiculous well I then they're just they lie about how many people are there anyway sure even when they don't you can't lie with

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[SPEAKER_00]: There are people not there, you know, like they, well, I mean, they're not going to say it's sold out, but they're going to lie about how many people are they they usually attack about 20% onto the actual number when they announced it on the show they usually attack and usually you really see about 1,000 or 2,000 more than the actual like number if usually 20% fairly you'd be surprised how consistent they are about just adding 20% to their personal opinion number.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I wouldn't think it was 20% but okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, just back to you back to you back to you and ask you the only thing that I will say is this is I haven't always been this way, but I do kind of find it low key offensive that WWE built their weekly show on the back of these Joe she wrestlers and then turn around and kick them to the curve on the biggest show of the year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Ask Bailey how that goes good lord another another person that has has had many moments taken away from her And it leaves the side show speed is the one celebrity all except because Lisa's an athlete is in speed enthusiastic.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I guess, but he I'd rather see I'd rather see Oversus Oscar, but I understand what you mean

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's fine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is the management turning everyone again to each other to say, no, this guy, this wrestler is the reason your favorite wrestler is not on here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Not the people booking the company, managing the product.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Deciding, oh, this person doesn't have the value for this and we're going to tell them that this other record fault.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do not fall for that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, at the end of the day, this is the people at the top deciding what these people's value are and then trying to tell us it was another reason what's clever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they want a couple of the top they'd be on the fucking card.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, no, no, no, when we're talking about people at the top, we're not talking about Paul of that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're talking about Paul of ex-bosses that are coming down.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm putting Paul of that in this conversation.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He has every opportunity to point EO on that card.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There are people that are not on that card, like both EO and Tiffany Stratton are the women's champions from last year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Neither one of them are on the card.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That is an indictment on the

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[SPEAKER_01]: could not maintain the star power of the people and they're going to turn around and blame the talent for the fact that they didn't get over eels guide chest is over if she was last year and it is a failure of WWE not in talent anyways let's talk with nitspan

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[SPEAKER_00]: But there's a lot of things going on there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's clearly a lot of things going on there that are coming down from on high and things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Brad mentioned that Kenny said a few months back, Kenny says a lot of things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But this is a one thing that Kenny actually might be right about.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He said there were, we were a couple of years away from Mr.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Beast versus Logan Paul in the main event of Mani and he's not for our off.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I mean, they could do that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It might be a triple threat with Jelly roll at this point.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, they just love to throw celebrities in there as if

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, you've watched all these people on Netflix, but now here are some real stars for you because they don't understand how this business works.

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[SPEAKER_00]: TKO doesn't understand how this business works.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And don't forget that it's run.

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[SPEAKER_00]: TKO is run by how we would agents and they have their own agendas for who needs to get over and things and it has nothing to do with pro wrestling in a lot of cases.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Jimmy or mentions L.A. Nye being wasted.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Steven, if this is where we are.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If the show starts at three my time,

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[SPEAKER_01]: by five o'clock, that show will have enough commercials and dead error on there that you could have put an eosky and off-scamatch in there and maybe eat in a couple advertisements.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I will not broke any argument defending WWE on this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is not what he's defending on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Nobody's defending on this thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You've been fucking bullshit and I'm gonna stand on my ground and even it sounds like, well, there's this reason, there's no reason.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's no advocacy here on my part.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're dust and they're poorly run off me come.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's poorly run.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's been poorly run for a while and then it only gets worse around many a time every year a bunch of hands jump in around many times.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We've seen that this is the third year in a row where

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[SPEAKER_00]: outside the main booking room forces come in and and and try to jam things in.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Remember they all the rock almost screwed it up two years ago.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He did screw it up last year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This year he's out of the picture and it looks like he's having his agent handle it because remember already a manual the rock has made him already a manual a lot more money than even WWE has so far and as far as owning TKO so and to them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, the thing is, I mean, if Levex is still there after, well, because that job, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was thinking about this too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Head of creative at WWE is going to become the job similar to a head coach or a manager of a baseball team and that a couple of good, a couple of bad years to get fired.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No matter how many good years you've had, it's going to turn into something like that because so many people are going to be in their ear saying I could I could fix this I can fix this I can fix that and without that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Without that family bunker mentality of it being a family business that that's how it's going to go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's a couple of bad years.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They pump the guy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They put somebody else in and we're going to have this merry-go-round going.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So by the way, Brad decided to That he was going to go with pain today.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The champion for the audience.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Who do they think they are?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you plan and wrestle Kingdom?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That is nice.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Why we like having Europe.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you've been listening to this show, you know that I haven't let them off the hook for that at all either.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So these are right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: CMLL's about the only well run pro wrestling company going out there right now in North America for sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You could say.

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[SPEAKER_00]: start them is still doing well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm very curious to see what all start grand quaintem does.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I put the over-runner to Scott Edwards, the guy who's a pity and I respect the most on that stuff of 5,000.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I said, do you think they can draw 5,000 with

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[SPEAKER_00]: the line up they have and he's new really easy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was a good line.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He was impressed by that line.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we're curious to see where that goes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That would be a strong crowd if they get to that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Marigold is moving up a little bit but that's their crowds are still often in the 100s except for their big shows because it's just a smaller company.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I mean if you're looking for a

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's that's the list.

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[SPEAKER_00]: CMLL right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So and Collins that I read earlier that Mania will be 17 hours if you include the KO show and other shows.

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[SPEAKER_00]: My goodness.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Stop.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You do not need to watch pre-shows.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You do not need to watch post-shows.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The only thing that you need to watch is the main show in which matches that are advertised for WrestleMania are actually going to happen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: you don't need to watch anything else despite them telling you that of WrestleMania.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're not fall for that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Your life is your own claimant.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Nick receives mentions this too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Noah is about to put on an appallingly lame where you're Goku main event in a few weeks too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, no one was close to having a little bit of momentum and it does seem to have dissipated.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It just seemed to have dissipated.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And all Japan just doesn't have a budget.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they just started their champion carnival tournament on Sunday.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it was a really good show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Remember that they just started their version of the G1 champion carnival.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it was an excellent excellent show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But all Japan just got the one where it's high-risk if no showed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he just canceled his ticket, but, but they put somebody better in that spot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, a better wrestler.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're just a weird story though, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Very much.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Very much a weird story and no one's really sure what or why.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We know what happened is what they didn't hear from.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He basically ghosted all your pants for some reason.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then they investigated about the ticket and they found out that his plane ticket had been canceled.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He canceled this plane ticket, didn't say anything to anybody.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We don't know why.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what Cyrus is inside of that story is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But they just put, you may, Ayoyagi, into the tournament who's been out of action for a while for a couple of different reasons.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But they split him right into that spot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But all Japan has good wrestling, and they have some good talent, but they just don't have the production.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They don't have the money.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're not owned by a huge cypher fight.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're not owned by a bushy road.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's very much a mom and pop organization level thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's hard to compete.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just hard to compete with the others in that sense.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So when you can't pay the people, I mean, you know, it's gochiizaki is over there now,

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[SPEAKER_00]: an older guy, but he's still very talented and could still wrestle well, and that has brought a little bit of juice to the main event scene there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he and Yuma Anzair probably the odds on favors to win the tournament.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're in the same blocks, so only once going to go to the final spot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to be watching because I love it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I like all Japan quite a bit, but New Japan struggling, Noah seems to have leveled off.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's pretty much start him, and we'll see what

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because right now, it seems like Syakamatani is the only story in Stardom that's actually developing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so to speak, there's all these rumors that that support might retire.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If Syakakarara doesn't beat Syakamatani, then Cosmic Angel says to just band, but it still kind of feels half-baked.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They seem to have all their chips in with Sya at the moment, which has been working.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it can't work forever.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You need to build depth.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll see how that goes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Again, Marigold, they just lost my Louis Vuitton, he'd go broken toe.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She's hurt, which doesn't help them at all.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a little bleak in some of this instances with pro wrestling where basically when I watch CMLO on Friday, it's about the only time I feel good about it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're like, oh, this is a big enthusiastic crowd watching enthusiastic wrestlers put on really good matches.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's about the only place that's happening right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So the one show that I did want to watch this weekend, maybe was the GMO show that I'm starting right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, CML else beginning.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's see.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Jeremy or Zessie, how many are skipping Mania all together?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Colin is and I'm going to watch Brock and Oberfemi on ESPN because I am interested in that one, but I don't have plans to watch the the main shows, not certainly not live.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Brad mentioned Sendai girls.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Again, a small promotion with a with a low budget good shows.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And, but yeah, that's that's another promotion.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just saying as far as like business booming, you know, that's the it's just been a little rough.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, and yeah, Colin mentions that marvelous is another joshi promotion with their May 5th show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It does look excellent.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They have a good lineup.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, let's see how it goes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The other one, I don't know if he saw this calling, by the way, the Ajacong anniversary show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She has brought together all the worlds.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There are Stardom wrestlers, TJPW wrestlers, and Marigold wrestlers, all on the same show for Ajacong.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's pretty crazy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That almost never happens.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's even more rare on the women's side than it is on the men's.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Jordan from Canada says the pleasure to be here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The knowledge and insights of the show is appreciated.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, thank you, Jordan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And if you have time, Jordan, let us know what you're looking forward to this weekend as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was just scanning stuff and apparently Danny Luna is not actually going to be on the shows the weekend or tonight.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She had a match against Henka Akka Ruki, but that is often.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they've been happening in Vegas as we were going over and over and over again.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Stephen, I got one last question for you before we get into get into all things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Did you see the most important tray or ever this morning?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Apparently not.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Street Fighter, the train or featuring one hurricane godo.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I watched it three times Steven, it was super fucking dumb.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Steven, I'm going to be in line day one to watch the movie.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to review it with Eric and Dolls for fight game media when I do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It is ridiculous.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It has all the vibes of 1993, the arcade console, the quarters, the sound effects,

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[SPEAKER_01]: the graphics, everything.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And yes, one hurricane, go to our own hurricane, go to for a new Japan pro wrestling, get three seconds in the clip as one, E. Hold up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And out, I will not judge you for going to see this movie.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I saw no holes bar in the day it came out and theaters, Hulk Ogan's big movie.

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[SPEAKER_01]: My mom put away to that movie.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That movie smelled like dukey.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Not a good film.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Not a good film.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So let's see.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Nick Reeve said, for all the complaints about New Japan, it's still the company I enjoy the most currently by far.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If I had more money, I would get started in the world.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That started in the world, definitely worth it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he also says, every time I think about the Street Fighter movie, I think about how good a match between GoTo and a motivated Roman Reigns would be.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So like I have to qualify, why would motivate Roman Reigns to be interested in this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Nick also mentioned that Noah is selling their show and tidally entirely on night to versus Osawa, the singles match between Tetsuya and Nighto and Osawa, and they just threw together in a more of versus Jeremy, Shane Haste is the main challenger and pro wrestling member of TMDK, or one out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He wandered out there at the end of this show, they just did in the Goia, after Inamura had retained his title.

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[SPEAKER_00]: even the announcers, Jeremy, weren't sure who he was.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You could hear it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He walked out there and got no reaction from the crowd in the Goi at all.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And poor Stu Fulton, I don't think they tipped him off.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he looks different.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He looks quite a bit different.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it wasn't until he was all the way in the ring and like climbing in the ring and beginning to speak before Tom Fane, Stu Fulton, seemed to know that it was Shane Haste, and there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The very first gift off.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe maybe I might have been they might have been looking around.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Who's this guy?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Who is this guy?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've probably got a text on their phone between that and it's like, hey, oh, got it got it got it got it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It just looks like Bobby fish showing up to TNA going where it's the like.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it was just such a flat thing because, you know, he wanted a former WWE wrestler.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, Shane Hayes is technically a former WWE wrestler, but not what you had in mind there at all, not what we had in mind at all.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so yeah, Alberto Del Rio, now look at well certainly not Alberto's got his own issues, but still that was a rough that was a rough land.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, former wrestlers, you could probably come up with about a hundred and they came up with one of the hundred.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You could get people who has had a lot of wrestling and trying to think of anyone that would have free date that would go to Noah because Noah, if not paying that much, you know, like, obviously not the good brother, the good brother went there because they literally had nowhere off to go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, they, they negotiated a really good point fight.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You got it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: question for you, Jeremy, here before we move on, here we've talked about me, and we've talked about Gabe Kid.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I keep kicking around this in my head that they put the title on Callon Newman, essentially to establish him, we talked about how they were probably rewarding Newman.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was a talented guy for signing that long-term contract.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They want to make him into something big and so, New Japan Cup run, then he wins the IWGP title,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And to an extent, it has helped Yota Suji.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Every week, think of Yota Suji on a higher plane today in terms of the pecking order than we do, you, you, you, we more, or show to Omeno.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm not talking about just wrestling ability because that's subjective and you can argue that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I think objectively, Yota Suji is a main event star.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he's going to be in main of ending one of the nights of Don't Talk.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It won't be against gay, but it'll be against somebody else, but it's a big deal.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think they wanted to make Newman into that same thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's a leader of a faction that they want to take very seriously, so give him the title.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Question for you here, Jeremy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: How long do you think Calum Newman is going to hold this title?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think he's going to get to G1 with it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: My thought is probably Dominion and give him a couple of months.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The issue is if you're about to settle around too much, then loses value.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just don't see him being a long-term champion.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I certainly don't see him going to the dome with Calum Newman in the main event.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Not to say he can never headline a dome, but I just don't feel like he has the drawing power in Japan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think the fans in Japan still need to be convinced.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's my question here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm putting the over under on Dominion.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Does he lose it before at or after Dominion to you, Jeremy?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to go with At Dominion.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I only say that for my own self-serving needs, because if you hold it past Dominion into the G1, the likelihood of him holding it through wrestle kingdom or into wrestle kingdom, the odds are stacking higher and higher.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I like Calvin Newman.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I do the Disney Japan podcast and I enjoy doing it every week with you, Steven, I've made that clear abundantly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I would be massively disinterested if I were discussing this podcast and is discussing this promotion over the next

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[SPEAKER_01]: There are other guys that you need to get going and that you need to establish.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm not necessarily sure if you have someone other than the Otosuchi when the G1, and then you have them versus Kalimnuman and then you're trying to create a couple of undercard matches that are also of Kong's equivalent with the Otosuchi on a big match and then somebody else under a big match for you have like three singles matches

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I think maybe column name and what versus well offspray is more of a direction that you do for restricting them, but for a variety of reasons that

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think I'll probably have to spell out of trying to bait whether I do or not.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's not a rest-looking domain event that's Tokyo Dome because it's too British guys for the IWGP title, and if you're not gonna happen, but you can do that under, and it could be a really good match, but that's not gonna be the main event.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right, so I'm looking at it and I'm thinking of like, no, I don't see a viable direction with Calum Newman

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, and do you think he makes the KOPW?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because that's where they've done title switches the last couple of years.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I would prefer that they refrain from that and that they make the G1, the no.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm caching in at the Tokyo dome.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I like it too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's good to change things up when you've done it stagnated.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's just kind of like over the years like, oh, yeah, the guy went with the G1.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then we wait four months and we have the title match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You switched it up for a couple of years, you kind of made it like do that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But now that you haven't done it for a couple of years, you're kind of like, you know, I kind of want to go back to the other way where we're building this up and I'm

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[SPEAKER_01]: The last year didn't really do it like that because you had to catch a winning the title halfway through and then you're to suit you end up challenging him meanwhile we're all speculating on who ton of hot sheets of opponent is going to be and so it undercuts like the G1 winner and the title this year it's time for the IW GP title with the V4 front center that you just make that the main event for that title.

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[SPEAKER_01]: who's the big dog in each bed?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and to me, I agree with you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think if you did another title switch of King of Pro Wrestling, then that becomes the cliche, because they've already done it two years in row now, a switch in the title between the G1 and Kingdom.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Plus,

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[SPEAKER_00]: If this is the year for Yoda Suji to win it, that fits his character so well to say, I've now won the G1, I finally won the G1, and I want my title match in the Tokyo Dome, because that's the New Japan that I knew, and that's the New Japan I want to bring back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, yeah, Jeremy's asking, did we figure out why Newman won just asking?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, again, we think it is because they wanted to make him, they wanted to turn him into a main event star and they wanted to reward him for signing that long term contract.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's one of the youngest, guys, we have to make it clear.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's immensely talented and I have no issue with him being the IWGP champion.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's all of that part of it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm fine with it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's the timing, it's interrupting what they were trying to do with Yota Suji and all of those things that I'm raising the objection to.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Call him Newman is the real deal with him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah, I agree with that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's not, let's not like try and argue that because he's he is just as good as we had we were watching him in 2024 against a she and taichi and a couple of these other guys and it was one of those like he's got something we talked about it wasn't like don't this guy now but.

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[SPEAKER_01]: we saw that there's something behind this guy and then the company thought about it too like yeah there is something behind this guy so much so like we're riding this guy to the finish line and I'm like okay I don't agree with it but I can't say that like your valuation is totally wrong

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, and Jeremy's just saying, I'm trying to understand the timing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Frankly, so we thought it was the wrong time to take the title off of Yoda's surgery.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not bad to get behind Calm Newman, but we both felt that it was the wrong time to take the title off of Yoda's surgery.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That he should have had a longer first run.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He should have been established more as a hero, and then you can do things from there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I don't think he should have lost it in a couple of months.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think the...

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[SPEAKER_01]: The thing that I'm trying to look at it from, instead of looking at it from, why are we making newmen the protagonist?

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's not.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's just the focal point of the story right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is all about giving Yota Suji a rival.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like this is all giving him, like they've tried to build him up at this guy and I would have the belief that you just need to have him standing tall over everybody and eventually somebody come and go all.

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[SPEAKER_01]: By having Newman beat him now, the problem is if he reverts significantly back to Jeff the guy status, rather than the guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he wasn't solidified yet for that to have been locked in and avoided it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I get what they're doing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I get that they need a rival and I get that you need to create a main course of conflict in 2026 to New Japan.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I think that there were a different way to get to that same destination.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Big Bandogs is here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to see you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He says, I guess they were planning on having a hot suit he versus Gabe feud for suit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that was probably going to go through both Dantaku and some form in forbidden or whether it's one on one, both times or not.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But that seemed to be building an AEW versus New Japan thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's get to some of the other answers here because I asked what other people thought.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Big Bandogs also said, I would guess that the count on Newman's run would be something more like AJ's first title run, where he wanted to talk about lost to King of Pro Wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Nick Reeves says, I think the chances of Shingo defeating Calam and wrestling sushi at Dominion are more than zero, more than zero.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's an interesting thought.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You'll like the hot shotting of the title.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's stuff on in it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a lot of switches.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That would be a lot of switches.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You risk a lot from that title to come back and then like that beautiful title to come back and then it's got a hot potato between three or four guys throughout the year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He also.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm yeah it's a hot potatoing is always a risk and let's see what else we have here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Big man dog says the main event should be to homegrown Japanese guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I agree with you way more of versus Suji or something and yeah I agree that it should be to more holy big man dog.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I got a Roman rain like image and he's just talking a lot of sense like you should be coming around more often big man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and he know what Nick brings up a good point here so I don't expect the hot shot but a lot of first rains are very short so it wouldn't be fully surprised.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Not a bad point.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you look back at the guys that have come along during the last 10 or 15 years, the people's first rains are

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[SPEAKER_00]: Relatively quick frequently that is that is true and Jeremy like Jeremy or mentions this as you kill Suji's momentum.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, sure did and especially if they were gonna have gay beat a man Don't talk it would be a disaster decision.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So maybe we're saying from that

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[SPEAKER_00]: Nick said after AJ and Jay White, it clearly felt safer with a quick ascent for Calum and being more patient with their home groans.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We all just hope they would do otherwise given the current state of things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There are two patients with their home groans.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's for damn sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So there's some folks that are coming up with a whole complaint of what knowing some guys are never leaving.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so they have a ton of time to do things with them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I just wrong, but I fundamentally disagree with that philosophy,

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can't just shotgun everything and rush rush rush every single story, but at the same time, you can't be driving in first year for the entire trip.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You got to get these guys on road speed and get them, get them to their destination before their career go over and they never got anywhere.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it just goes to the point I keep making it, I understand that a lot of wrestling is subjective.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's what you like and maybe what you like differs from the guy sitting next to you might like or the person on the other side of them, they might like something totally different.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Objectively, things are bad right now business wise.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And this isn't working.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They are having record low crowds for a lot of these shows.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They can't keep going like this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know they got a baby of false sense of security with the 45,000 of the dome, but there is objective evidence crowds barely over a thousand of cork and haul for some of those shows earlier in the year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Bad attendance at this past, Secretary Genesis show last year's King of Pro Wrestling, worst King of Pro Wrestling crowd ever, the same working.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's subject.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Ocata were still around when Yoda's Fuji and showed to Umano were starting to make their come up as these guys in the promotion.

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[SPEAKER_01]: In that entire time, they've almost made no headway minus Yoda's Fuji, you know, winning that title, but if because they're literally nobody else showed Umano still has not won a single title in the entirety of his career in New Japan pro wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We talk about these young guys and their

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're not going to have to talk about Kalam Numan and Jose Fujida because they're the 23-year-olds.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yoda Fuji showed him, you know, you and Umer are all in their 30s and this window of time of them being at the top is actively closing and was they plan on being hard-hitting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: New Japan wrestlers going into their late 40s.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Not everyone is going to be like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You will look at that roster.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You'll see the people.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You'll see that beat up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You have about 20% of the people that were there 10 years ago.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Still work in that card and it's not the guy that you thought we're going to be booked at the top of the card.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's the guy that we're booked against the guy and that we're at the top of the card back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and look at the guys who are in their forties, hobbling to the ring to congratulate Tanaashi at the Tokyo dome.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You can't wait, it's just ass and I, to wait.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they're waiting way too long.

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[SPEAKER_00]: These guys are going to get hurt doing this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This has happened constantly with New Japan too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That style is just realized.

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[SPEAKER_01]: My frustration, brother.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Can can we do this like can we not just water these guys's careers and maybe get the audience to buy some merchandise from a winner that they want to cheer and they can go home and believe that they're going to make feel good I don't seem like a good business plan you want to know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, so.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We do have shows, cannon shows that are coming up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But let's talk briefly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to run down the line up of tonight, Desperado, the death vagus, invitational.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's go ahead and do this and take a look.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a weird show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is a weird show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Then we're going to talk about the court and Hall shows a little bit more.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But at the horseshoe in Las Vegas, this right off the strip, they have the death vagus invitation.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We have the world's best technical wrestler versus the first class, third rate,

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just reading this good lord.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Zack Sabertune here versus X.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Somebody handpicked by Hiccaro Sato.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to hopefully go backwards and hope that you and I are all the same of these images.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Give guys a load of love from top to bottom on the way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, for top to bottom.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll go the other way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, so I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you go the next one and I'll see if that's the same one that I have.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, it'll be a game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It'll be a game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Here we go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The next one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're going for the rig roulette.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Dysuke Sasaki, ghetto versus Gringo Loco and Joey Janella, a man who has no business being in the neighborhood.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would generally give zero absolute about this batch.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, after that runaway rush and crash, a drop dead, gorgeous, three-way tag match got us give me a headache reading this stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We have all over.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Look at that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then we have Yamato and Kushita versus Mason Madden and Mansour.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: After that, we have cute sex network, not match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No word.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's nothing really to say about it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Eaton, Jimmy Lloyd, and Effie in that hardcore three-way match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Cute, set, correct three-way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There, it'll be hardcore, but I hope it's not hardcore in the way that they're suggesting with cute and set C beforehand.

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[SPEAKER_00]: deadly airtime and cutie crime who's doing this high stakes heartbreak jackpot match this is dragon kid and starlight kid versus el phantasmo and another x probably a different x that oh yeah there's a card off of their cause uh mochi you know can do the match or something like that couldn't i guess uh had visa issues couldn't get visa yeah they couldn't get the

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[SPEAKER_00]: Too bad, Machie and Starlight would have been an interesting interaction there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're kind of clashing and start them in the well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Machie's clashing with everybody and start them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's kind of the whole point.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Inputation only.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Love in pieces.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Three-way death match at journeys and...

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[SPEAKER_00]: Good, great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: These titles are just overwrought.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We have June, Kasi, and Elvis Barado versus Matt Tremont and Nick Gage, another person who has no business being anywhere near anything New Japan related.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Rina Yamashita and Masashi, Takeda, let's just get this over with.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I hope everyone who get this show enjoyed this show and find somebody that is going to recap this show for them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I apologize.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I will not be recapping this show for you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just, uh, I'm just not, I'm sorry.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just, I, I have a car payment.

01:00:02.618 --> 01:00:04.500
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not paying 23 dollars.

01:00:05.425 --> 01:00:08.470
[SPEAKER_00]: It's disgusting that Joey Janella and Nick Gager in this.

01:00:09.172 --> 01:00:15.803
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not just fine yet that they're both dirt, they're both, they need to one should have anything to do with the rest of the business.

01:00:16.364 --> 01:00:19.149
[SPEAKER_00]: It's gross and this is a gross business.

01:00:19.409 --> 01:00:21.453
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, a lot of gross people in this business.

01:00:21.573 --> 01:00:24.919
[SPEAKER_00]: And Janella and Gage just,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Don't need to be anywhere near New Japan pro wrestling and forgot to say save.

01:00:30.410 --> 01:00:33.455
[SPEAKER_00]: I have a little bit of dignity for the love of God a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm asking for a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's all and that it gauge and channel of none whatsoever.

01:00:38.463 --> 01:00:39.325
[SPEAKER_00]: It's just it's gross.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Anything to add to that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just, I wasn't going to watch a show.

01:00:51.255 --> 01:00:58.285
[SPEAKER_01]: I was politely going through the card because it had ten genital links to New Japan, but I apologize to everybody.

01:00:58.386 --> 01:00:59.727
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not going to watch the card.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not going to recommend the card to you.

01:01:01.810 --> 01:01:07.639
[SPEAKER_01]: And if you enjoy it, I really do hope that you find somebody that will recap it for your enjoyment.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I hope that you don't hold it again.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That we are not going to.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I like sack a lot.

01:01:13.541 --> 01:01:15.805
[SPEAKER_00]: I like, let's see, who else do I like on this show?

01:01:15.905 --> 01:01:16.706
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I like Koshita.

01:01:16.827 --> 01:01:17.488
[SPEAKER_00]: I like your motto.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I like, uh, I don't have any problem with that fee.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Star like you, Dragon Kid, Ventasma.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know who X is, but there you go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's what it's brought up in the comments here that the Japanese death match style is superior to the American South.

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[SPEAKER_00]: that fascinates me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't usually like death match wrestling, but I think he and Desperado are interesting in a way that I don't really find other people interesting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I like June Kassai.

01:01:50.857 --> 01:01:52.701
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm kind of excited about him being in Super Junior's.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what the heck that's going to look like.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, this show is just I'm going to pass.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just going to pass on this one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

01:02:00.558 --> 01:02:04.184
[SPEAKER_01]: Big man dog mentioned that he doesn't like the American niche fan show for Mopper.

01:02:04.484 --> 01:02:05.426
[SPEAKER_01]: I can validate that.

01:02:05.706 --> 01:02:07.128
[SPEAKER_01]: They don't feel like Japanese shows.

01:02:07.509 --> 01:02:21.211
[SPEAKER_01]: Like if you're watching and going to an American show wanting to feel like if they Japanese authentic wrestling show, it's not because the undercard they're filled with, you know, the all starts from the indie circuit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't, and I don't love that for the show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: D amount of time.

01:02:27.925 --> 01:02:42.822
[SPEAKER_01]: I think I saw homicide on the undercard of a new Japan show was like three or four times and I'm just like I don't care about homicide at all and I would actually pay more money if you wasn't on the card.

01:02:44.101 --> 01:02:44.882
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, fair enough.

01:02:45.103 --> 01:02:48.648
[SPEAKER_00]: And Brad mentions there's a reason that June is his favorite death match wrestler.

01:02:48.708 --> 01:02:49.169
[SPEAKER_00]: He's great.

01:02:49.269 --> 01:02:50.751
[SPEAKER_00]: He's good at that genre of definitely.

01:02:51.212 --> 01:02:55.638
[SPEAKER_00]: And Nick Reeves said the June decide death Bay match from last year's my favorite match of the last several years.

01:02:55.658 --> 01:02:57.461
[SPEAKER_00]: And I normally despise death match.

01:02:57.481 --> 01:02:58.683
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, there was a job.

01:02:58.703 --> 01:03:03.290
[SPEAKER_01]: If death match from time to time, I'll all check it out with like these things are brutal.

01:03:03.550 --> 01:03:04.372
[SPEAKER_01]: They're disgusting.

01:03:04.592 --> 01:03:06.996
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't ever want to watch him again, but I'll watch him once.

01:03:07.436 --> 01:03:10.581
[SPEAKER_01]: And I will absolutely marvel at the brilliant

01:03:10.561 --> 01:03:15.050
[SPEAKER_01]: of the people and what they do to inflict pain on each other and call it art.

01:03:15.672 --> 01:03:27.456
[SPEAKER_00]: And Kassai also has a way of weaving emotion into it and Kassai has a sense of timing in his matches that American death match wrestling is just

01:03:28.195 --> 01:03:40.989
[SPEAKER_00]: A long set up for a spot and then they do the spot and then they do a long set up for a spot and then they do a spot there's zero psychology to it I will not argue this there's there's there's almost no psychology in American death.

01:03:41.009 --> 01:03:53.123
[SPEAKER_00]: Matt Russell and it's just here's a bunch of stuff here's the spot because I has a sense of timing he builds to think that's a good action is a way to escalate in a match I've never seen before.

01:03:53.221 --> 01:04:10.731
[SPEAKER_00]: And, of course, that whole thing with Desparado has a lot of layers to it, some of which have pardoned the pun blood over into real life with those guys, where Desparado, of course, you know, has been open about some of his struggles at times and said that, you know, in that match of June, because he was willing to die.

01:04:10.791 --> 01:04:13.956
[SPEAKER_00]: And afterwards, because I, afterwards, says that's the wrong attitude.

01:04:13.996 --> 01:04:15.018
[SPEAKER_00]: He says death matches.

01:04:15.158 --> 01:04:16.641
[SPEAKER_00]: That's when you feel most alive.

01:04:17.041 --> 01:04:19.245
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so that's when you're going to make you want to live.

01:04:19.225 --> 01:04:28.116
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and and Desperado said that has said that that's a bit of a microcosm of some stuff he was going through at the time.

01:04:28.457 --> 01:04:30.980
[SPEAKER_00]: So there's emotional depth to it as well there.

01:04:31.080 --> 01:04:40.592
[SPEAKER_01]: That doesn't come from the mentality of a death match record being I want to see how close to death I can get and another death match record basically I want to see how alive I can feel.

01:04:41.045 --> 01:04:45.870
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's interesting and next that I got the wrong impression of death matches from the American garbage wrestling.

01:04:45.930 --> 01:04:50.095
[SPEAKER_00]: I grew up seeing and we all went through that phase We all did when we were watching wrestling.

01:04:50.155 --> 01:05:04.690
[SPEAKER_01]: I did to he said Japanese death matches are an art that can make me squeamish in a way I enjoy and admire you don't you know what the match was that made me like you know what I'm done with these effing matches It was it was the luch under ground match

01:05:04.670 --> 01:05:13.303
[SPEAKER_01]: with a kill shot and who is historically in an AR Fox and this like three levels of hell match.

01:05:14.025 --> 01:05:24.962
[SPEAKER_01]: And I need to look up what exactly they are, but the the stages of this match were absolutely like unbelievable.

01:05:25.082 --> 01:05:31.572
[SPEAKER_01]: And I remember watching this about 10 years ago and I was just

01:05:33.037 --> 01:05:45.075
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, let's see if I can make a hell of war match if what it was called it was on underground Ultima, which a three and it was Dante Falk for his kill shot.

01:05:46.798 --> 01:05:52.026
[SPEAKER_01]: I wish I had the level of hell of war, but somebody could be able to find it.

01:05:52.166 --> 01:05:52.527
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's see.

01:05:52.547 --> 01:05:52.827
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, wait.

01:05:53.488 --> 01:05:59.297
[SPEAKER_01]: First blood, then a no D kill and then the last

01:06:01.454 --> 01:06:02.015
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

01:06:02.035 --> 01:06:07.122
[SPEAKER_01]: Because they both were like in the story, what they were saying in the same like military squad together.

01:06:07.162 --> 01:06:12.649
[SPEAKER_01]: And so they call it like they were feuding, even though they were like holders together.

01:06:12.730 --> 01:06:20.340
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know man, like anyway, that was the one that turned that side of like, you know what, I can't keep watching these because I'm gonna watch your band die.

01:06:21.012 --> 01:06:29.266
[SPEAKER_00]: And Big Bandogs is, I'm pretty sure, Oh, Nita described himself as a director, which at Sushi, Oh, Nita is sort of pioneered a lot of the death mattress things you had with Wayne, Canada, more.

01:06:29.286 --> 01:06:30.388
[SPEAKER_00]: And there were others, I know.

01:06:30.428 --> 01:06:33.614
[SPEAKER_00]: There were Matsunaga, was another one.

01:06:33.654 --> 01:06:44.573
[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, it is interesting to think about Big Bandogs and the rest of you guys that how Japanese wrestling history might be different if at Sushi, Oh, Nita had good knees.

01:06:44.553 --> 01:06:48.480
[SPEAKER_00]: because that's what he had to do when his knees went bad on him and he couldn't wrestle for the main companies.

01:06:48.820 --> 01:06:55.231
[SPEAKER_00]: He was an algebraic guy and he had toured the United States and wrestled as southern heel and Memphis and Florida and things.

01:06:55.872 --> 01:07:00.660
[SPEAKER_00]: He was a traditional pro wrestler is that his knees went bad so he had to do death match wrestling to get by.

01:07:01.181 --> 01:07:08.393
[SPEAKER_00]: It would be a very different world than Japanese wrestling if his knees had held up and Brad said I told Swirf that was my favorite American death match ever.

01:07:08.413 --> 01:07:09.835
[SPEAKER_00]: It was absolutely insane.

01:07:09.815 --> 01:07:17.296
[SPEAKER_00]: And serving the Jesus seven seven seven seven says I think they were preparing for the dogs versus the bang bang gang feud before kids injury.

01:07:17.316 --> 01:07:22.089
[SPEAKER_01]: I will go back to the J white back on an AEW television.

01:07:23.533 --> 01:07:23.995
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

01:07:24.015 --> 01:07:24.837
[SPEAKER_00]: So.

01:07:25.070 --> 01:07:29.655
[SPEAKER_00]: With that in mind now, we've got the Death Vegas invitation on the light, go ahead and watch that.

01:07:29.735 --> 01:07:34.400
[SPEAKER_00]: It's going to be on NJPW World as a pay-per-view additional charge if you so choose.

01:07:34.441 --> 01:07:40.507
[SPEAKER_00]: And again, Jeremy, and I, Jeremy Feinstein and I, this isn't the only way to watch wrestling.

01:07:40.668 --> 01:07:43.371
[SPEAKER_00]: If you enjoy it, by all means, this is that we're here for fun.

01:07:43.411 --> 01:07:44.352
[SPEAKER_00]: We're here for you.

01:07:44.772 --> 01:07:45.933
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not here to yuck your gum.

01:07:46.294 --> 01:07:50.098
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm telling you, I'm not, I don't want you to make me your, your gum.

01:07:50.278 --> 01:07:51.820
[SPEAKER_01]: Be as I think it's to yuck you.

01:07:51.800 --> 01:08:01.594
[SPEAKER_00]: And Nick, the famous O'Neigheterry Funk exploding Bard-Wire death match was so iconic that a major American company recreated it with some sparklers and Jay.

01:08:01.815 --> 01:08:03.978
[SPEAKER_00]: I felt so bad for Eddie and, yeah, all that.

01:08:04.278 --> 01:08:06.281
[SPEAKER_00]: But, yeah, Nick, I mentioned that.

01:08:06.321 --> 01:08:07.683
[SPEAKER_00]: That is an iconic match.

01:08:07.703 --> 01:08:20.642
[SPEAKER_00]: And I do remember watching that one of my tape trading days in college, and we were it was the an Oscar Delohoya pay-per-view boxing fight, and there was a boring undercard match, not the main event.

01:08:20.622 --> 01:08:32.376
[SPEAKER_00]: but there was a very boring undercard match and we put that on instead with a whole bunch of boxing fans who are just like what on earth are these people doing to themselves watching O'Neighb versus Terry Funk and that one.

01:08:32.416 --> 01:08:42.447
[SPEAKER_00]: So we put that on and had it certainly took us away from a very boring boxing match and entertained everybody for a little bit, but their jaws were on the floor for that one.

01:08:42.487 --> 01:08:43.148
[SPEAKER_00]: They were not prepared.

01:08:43.789 --> 01:08:44.149
[SPEAKER_00]: But

01:08:45.074 --> 01:08:49.104
[SPEAKER_01]: We have one new Japan roadshow that I've actually going to air this week, right?

01:08:49.525 --> 01:08:49.906
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, too.

01:08:50.026 --> 01:08:52.974
[SPEAKER_00]: There we have Sunday and Monday, a quarter of going home.

01:08:53.014 --> 01:08:54.738
[SPEAKER_00]: So there are two road to's right there.

01:08:55.320 --> 01:09:02.357
[SPEAKER_00]: And let's go into these because the Sunday one is a headline by

01:09:03.080 --> 01:09:09.167
[SPEAKER_00]: two tag team matches that mix the junior heavyweight and the heavyweight tag team scenes.

01:09:09.367 --> 01:09:12.130
[SPEAKER_00]: So there'll be entertaining matches.

01:09:12.410 --> 01:09:18.196
[SPEAKER_00]: It's going to be Taiji issue more a teaming with Udo Ice to face Robbie Eagles and Rio Heo Eva.

01:09:18.276 --> 01:09:19.478
[SPEAKER_00]: So he said we're doing here.

01:09:19.498 --> 01:09:29.188
[SPEAKER_00]: We've got the the number one contender team on one side TMDK and then the the the dog team for the with an alternative partner

01:09:29.168 --> 01:09:35.614
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, so Robbie X is teaming with Oscar to face Jose Fugida and Hartley Jackson in the other one.

01:09:35.634 --> 01:09:46.304
[SPEAKER_00]: So a different way of previewing those instead of just having a mass TMDK, dogs, ward dogs, matches, or not, unbound companies, excuse me, unbound company.

01:09:46.324 --> 01:09:50.608
[SPEAKER_00]: Instead of just doing that, we have two tag team matches where they mix up the tag teams.

01:09:51.548 --> 01:09:54.151
[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, is it?

01:09:54.571 --> 01:09:58.855
[SPEAKER_01]: Because I find it odd that they're doing this, that they call this an odd

01:10:00.438 --> 01:10:01.705
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not really an out-couple pairing.

01:10:01.725 --> 01:10:02.851
[SPEAKER_00]: They're all in the same factions.

01:10:02.891 --> 01:10:06.128
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's just the thought of the teacher being paired with each other.

01:10:06.243 --> 01:10:09.287
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, yeah, but basically they just want to give away the main events.

01:10:09.948 --> 01:10:11.229
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's coming up.

01:10:11.269 --> 01:10:16.616
[SPEAKER_00]: That's the two final matches, the main event, the semi-main on Sunday.

01:10:16.656 --> 01:10:19.860
[SPEAKER_00]: The rest of it is your standard preview fare.

01:10:20.121 --> 01:10:26.989
[SPEAKER_00]: So everybody that's got a big singles match, they're teaming with faction mates against their opponents and their faction mates.

01:10:27.029 --> 01:10:28.792
[SPEAKER_00]: There's nothing different about that too much.

01:10:28.952 --> 01:10:34.579
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm glad we can flip it through the match card on Sunday and Monday and we get to the main event.

01:10:35.285 --> 01:10:44.566
[SPEAKER_00]: So, and then Monday, April 20th at Coracle and Hall, they are right back with another show that's, again, mostly preview matches.

01:10:45.127 --> 01:10:52.443
[SPEAKER_00]: And you can kind of tell by who's in it, who's gonna take the fall, there's either a young lion or somebody who eats up in the eater in each one.

01:10:52.784 --> 01:10:53.766
[SPEAKER_00]: And then they have,

01:10:54.657 --> 01:11:02.749
[SPEAKER_00]: something that's kind of set us up for something interesting, perhaps Jeremy, the fifth match on Monday is Shingo Takagi versus Jane Jay.

01:11:02.809 --> 01:11:05.152
[SPEAKER_00]: Now there's very little doubt as to who would win that match.

01:11:05.172 --> 01:11:07.436
[SPEAKER_00]: Jane Jay, if you got the one baby, you bet.

01:11:07.756 --> 01:11:11.822
[SPEAKER_00]: And then right after that, it's Calum Newman versus Dike in a guy.

01:11:11.802 --> 01:11:17.210
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, the obvious thing would be that the shingo is wrestling Newman, so they're both going to get wins, probably true.

01:11:17.651 --> 01:11:24.060
[SPEAKER_00]: But the fact that one is the fifth match, one's the sixth match immediately afterwards, there might be some shenanigans in there.

01:11:24.300 --> 01:11:29.668
[SPEAKER_00]: Be some sort of confrontation between shingo and Newman coming and going, so to speak.

01:11:29.868 --> 01:11:34.435
[SPEAKER_01]: And then not the restaurant, actual shenanigans, the actual shenanigans.

01:11:34.415 --> 01:11:40.241
[SPEAKER_00]: And then the final match is the IWGP tag team title number one contender match.

01:11:40.261 --> 01:11:48.669
[SPEAKER_00]: And that pits Bishaman Yoshihashi and Hero Kigoto are on E Honda himself against the great Ocon and Henarei.

01:11:48.749 --> 01:11:54.495
[SPEAKER_00]: So again, another one that's a AEW star in RA by the way.

01:11:54.515 --> 01:11:56.977
[SPEAKER_00]: Great Ocon Henarei versus Bishaman.

01:11:57.578 --> 01:12:02.042
[SPEAKER_01]: Jeremy, who you got?

01:12:02.545 --> 01:12:03.187
[SPEAKER_00]: I think so too.

01:12:03.287 --> 01:12:05.714
[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like United Empire just has the hot hand.

01:12:05.995 --> 01:12:11.712
[SPEAKER_00]: And as we've said, when it comes to tag teams, Bishop on has to make everybody.

01:12:12.957 --> 01:12:39.842
[SPEAKER_01]: I think that, I feel like we've already had the Bishimal on versus KLB matchup and they're kind of, they were running that back along with, you know, showed in you for a while and I feel like Henare and Greido Khan could actually win the titles from these guys, number one, and number two, it's that United Empire spotlight right now, every, every, and all the United Empire, just like it's been all the same to have support for the last five years.

01:12:39.822 --> 01:12:44.897
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, it just seems like it's all day in the United Empire, and I'm okay with that as a nice little break in the action.

01:12:45.960 --> 01:12:48.387
[SPEAKER_01]: No, we never had Kayle Beaver as a fisherman, but they were teasing it.

01:12:49.149 --> 01:12:53.241
[SPEAKER_01]: But I still think that they're holding no, didn't they have that in World Tag week?

01:12:55.111 --> 01:12:57.334
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think they, I think they met in the world.

01:12:57.675 --> 01:12:59.478
[SPEAKER_00]: I have to go and look that up, but I think they did.

01:12:59.938 --> 01:13:04.906
[SPEAKER_00]: And then in mixes, I like that we're getting more single smatches between the top guys and young lions.

01:13:04.926 --> 01:13:10.714
[SPEAKER_00]: I love discovering that the first Ocada town of Hashimach was actually Ocada's excursion send off.

01:13:10.995 --> 01:13:12.377
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I've got a little match to watch.

01:13:13.218 --> 01:13:14.119
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I kind of is.

01:13:14.139 --> 01:13:17.845
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and Ocada's young lion was interesting because

01:13:19.310 --> 01:13:23.341
[SPEAKER_00]: you could kind of see that something was there, but you had no idea what was coming.

01:13:23.421 --> 01:13:34.973
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he really blossomed when he came back, not even in TNX didn't give a chance to, but it was a real leap of faith for New Japan because he was certainly, he was certainly talented.

01:13:35.122 --> 01:13:42.990
[SPEAKER_00]: There's no doubt about that, but I don't know if you watch a young Lion Ocata and just say, oh, one of the greatest of all time in the making right there.

01:13:43.271 --> 01:13:50.979
[SPEAKER_00]: I just think it's a guy who was a bit of a late bloomer when it came to that boy when he once he got the ball, he ran with it like almost nobody is so pretty.

01:13:51.079 --> 01:13:53.081
[SPEAKER_01]: Nick mentioned that, uh, K.O.B.

01:13:53.141 --> 01:13:54.643
[SPEAKER_01]: and Bishop on were all good blocks.

01:13:54.663 --> 01:13:55.204
[SPEAKER_00]: I have a check.

01:13:55.404 --> 01:14:00.049
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to go ahead and take a word for it, but if it were me, I'd wait for Bishop on versus K.O.B.

01:14:00.089 --> 01:14:02.952
[SPEAKER_01]: to do it at Dominion and do United Empire now.

01:14:04.248 --> 01:14:06.630
[SPEAKER_00]: It just feels like United Empire is the focus at the moment.

01:14:08.111 --> 01:14:08.732
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, there you go.

01:14:08.752 --> 01:14:12.655
[SPEAKER_00]: But those are the two road to Don Taku shows that are coming up from Cork and Hall.

01:14:12.695 --> 01:14:16.078
[SPEAKER_00]: There will be another one, but it's Friday.

01:14:16.138 --> 01:14:22.164
[SPEAKER_00]: So by the time we reconvene here on Speaking of Strongstile, we'll have those two Cork and Hall shows to digest.

01:14:22.424 --> 01:14:25.387
[SPEAKER_00]: And we will preview the show on Friday.

01:14:25.427 --> 01:14:27.949
[SPEAKER_00]: So a few things coming along, these special shows.

01:14:28.589 --> 01:14:32.753
[SPEAKER_00]: There's a junior heavyweight title match at a high-zoned no-coony coming up.

01:14:32.733 --> 01:14:34.035
[SPEAKER_00]: The station to station.

01:14:34.056 --> 01:14:35.699
[SPEAKER_00]: There are, I think they're made.

01:14:35.719 --> 01:14:42.852
[SPEAKER_01]: There's, there's a lot of shows on the, like, we're getting all the shows in May that we're not getting it all.

01:14:42.992 --> 01:14:45.537
[SPEAKER_00]: April's a light month and May is certainly not.

01:14:45.597 --> 01:14:48.423
[SPEAKER_00]: And then June, we're then we're in the best of super juniors.

01:14:48.443 --> 01:14:50.647
[SPEAKER_00]: So the schedule takes up quite a bit.

01:14:50.667 --> 01:14:55.416
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, my podcast and schedule will pick up at the summertime of Harold.

01:14:57.050 --> 01:14:59.495
[SPEAKER_00]: I took a brief look since we have a little bit of time Jeremy.

01:14:59.615 --> 01:15:05.567
[SPEAKER_00]: I took a brief look at some of the history of saccharogenesis because I was curious about a couple of things.

01:15:05.607 --> 01:15:08.092
[SPEAKER_00]: So I just want to bring this up here.

01:15:08.132 --> 01:15:13.843
[SPEAKER_00]: First of all, this show, this show, the April show all began in 2013 is when they really started.

01:15:13.823 --> 01:15:22.096
[SPEAKER_00]: naming a lot of these shows, that around that era, 2012, 2013, they always, you know, wrestling came and goes back 20 years.

01:15:22.156 --> 01:15:33.213
[SPEAKER_00]: But as far as having things like King of Pro Wrestling and Don Taku and destruction and new beginning, all that stuff, this one started off as invasion attack.

01:15:33.493 --> 01:15:35.216
[SPEAKER_00]: It's always been in Rio Goku, Kukuhi Khan.

01:15:35.256 --> 01:15:35.797
[SPEAKER_00]: That's one thing.

01:15:35.837 --> 01:15:40.945
[SPEAKER_00]: It's they've stayed steady with the

01:15:40.925 --> 01:15:46.515
[SPEAKER_00]: Kazushko Kada, meeting Hiroshi Tanahashi for the IWGP title in the main event.

01:15:46.535 --> 01:15:48.098
[SPEAKER_00]: That was Okada's second title reign.

01:15:48.138 --> 01:15:50.582
[SPEAKER_00]: It was in front of 8,200 people.

01:15:51.303 --> 01:15:54.649
[SPEAKER_00]: And that show opened with a classic Junior Tag Team title match.

01:15:54.669 --> 01:16:03.405
[SPEAKER_00]: It was the Times Splitters, Alex Shelley and Kushita against Apollo 55, which is Prince David and Ryu Skate to Gucci.

01:16:03.385 --> 01:16:13.581
[SPEAKER_00]: That was 2013 and then they it ticked up in attendance just about every year to 9,500 for a match that I

01:16:14.725 --> 01:16:20.212
[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't think I've watched this match since just after it happened, and I'm kind of kicking myself about this.

01:16:20.592 --> 01:16:27.280
[SPEAKER_00]: The main event in 2015 was AJ Styles versus Coda Abushi for the IWGP title when Coda was still there.

01:16:28.222 --> 01:16:31.526
[SPEAKER_00]: It was, and I'm a little embarrassed that I don't think I've gone back and watched.

01:16:31.606 --> 01:16:37.493
[SPEAKER_00]: If I have time, I might go back and check that one out on NJPW World again, because

01:16:37.473 --> 01:16:40.135
[SPEAKER_00]: I bet I haven't seen that since just after happened.

01:16:40.436 --> 01:16:41.357
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm almost sure of it.

01:16:41.777 --> 01:16:44.559
[SPEAKER_00]: I think I found a YouTube of it before I got taken down.

01:16:44.579 --> 01:16:45.420
[SPEAKER_00]: Wait, back then, maybe.

01:16:46.781 --> 01:16:52.567
[SPEAKER_00]: The largest attendance in history was actually for the first show that was relabeled saccharogenesis.

01:16:52.607 --> 01:16:54.469
[SPEAKER_00]: They moved away for the invasion attack name.

01:16:54.909 --> 01:16:57.051
[SPEAKER_00]: It made it saccharogenesis time a year, right?

01:16:57.071 --> 01:16:59.353
[SPEAKER_00]: This is the cherry blossoms roll out in Japan.

01:16:59.913 --> 01:17:04.898
[SPEAKER_00]: And so saccharogenesis part of the Spring Festival.

01:17:04.878 --> 01:17:15.260
[SPEAKER_00]: 10,231 Jeremy for 2017 and it was Okada versus Shibata and you remember what happened there.

01:17:15.320 --> 01:17:18.606
[SPEAKER_00]: That was the famous headbutt match that almost killed Katsey or Shibata.

01:17:18.887 --> 01:17:23.697
[SPEAKER_00]: Almost killed himself in that one, but that was the night.

01:17:24.689 --> 01:17:37.845
[SPEAKER_00]: haven't heard from him in a minute, but that was the largest sentence for any secretary of Genesis show and ended up being a match that was that well had serious repercussions for Katsuri Shabbata and New Japan as a whole.

01:17:38.546 --> 01:17:47.457
[SPEAKER_00]: Also on that show, by the way, historic show for another reason hero Moutaka Hashi defeated Kishita in under two minutes in a match that helped make

01:17:47.437 --> 01:17:48.539
[SPEAKER_00]: Herobutaka Hashie.

01:17:48.699 --> 01:17:50.782
[SPEAKER_00]: Really, he had been back from search for a while.

01:17:50.862 --> 01:17:54.809
[SPEAKER_00]: He'd been messing with Kushita who had been the junior heavyweight ace for years.

01:17:55.510 --> 01:18:07.829
[SPEAKER_00]: They did a thing where Takahashi just kept getting under her Umu's under Kushita's skin time after time, irritating him in all the previews, sort of cheap shoting him whenever he could.

01:18:08.370 --> 01:18:10.473
[SPEAKER_00]: And Kushita lost his stuff.

01:18:10.994 --> 01:18:14.980
[SPEAKER_00]: And as Heromu was

01:18:14.960 --> 01:18:32.841
[SPEAKER_00]: Jump started the match, which Koshita very rarely did, did this huge dive into the aisle and splattered Hiromu, but that was about the only move he got in, because when they got back in the ring, Hiromu completely took over, hit the time bomb and beat him in one minute, 56 seconds.

01:18:32.982 --> 01:18:38.368
[SPEAKER_00]: And it was to spit, oh, the Lord, because Koshita was the guy, like most of his matches were,

01:18:38.905 --> 01:18:53.948
[SPEAKER_00]: at least 10 minutes when they were short on time and longer than that when they did have time because they believed in Coshito a lot and he was a terrific junior heavyweight champion, but they had Hiromu beat him under two and all of a sudden he was he was made very much so so that was a big deal.

01:18:53.968 --> 01:18:57.353
[SPEAKER_01]: How much longer will he endage fan after that with two more years before he took off?

01:18:57.451 --> 01:19:06.663
[SPEAKER_00]: Koshita, yeah, yeah, around there, and also on that show, just to show you the time capsule, warm machine.

01:19:07.023 --> 01:19:10.308
[SPEAKER_00]: One, the IWGP tag team title is beating 10 Cozy.

01:19:10.688 --> 01:19:14.553
[SPEAKER_00]: So 10 Zana Kojima were the champions going in, and they lost a warm machine.

01:19:15.314 --> 01:19:21.482
[SPEAKER_00]: And Goto, Hero Kigoto also beat Zach Saber Jr. for the never-open weight championship on that show.

01:19:21.883 --> 01:19:27.390
[SPEAKER_00]: When Zach was one of the mid-card guys

01:19:27.370 --> 01:19:34.800
[SPEAKER_00]: The show didn't happen at all in 2019 because New Japan and Ring of Honor ran the G1 super card in Madison Square Garden.

01:19:34.840 --> 01:19:37.784
[SPEAKER_00]: That month instead, that was of course the O'Cotton J.

01:19:37.824 --> 01:19:40.768
[SPEAKER_00]: White match, and then 2020 didn't happen because of the pandemic.

01:19:41.850 --> 01:19:44.293
[SPEAKER_00]: They came back in 2021 with a limited audience.

01:19:44.333 --> 01:19:47.778
[SPEAKER_00]: That one only had about 4,000 people at it, but that's all they were allowed.

01:19:49.060 --> 01:19:55.048
[SPEAKER_00]: And unfortunately, since then, Jeremy after crowds in the 8,000 to the 9,000

01:19:56.345 --> 01:20:03.351
[SPEAKER_00]: Since then, they haven't been able to crack 6700 with 6,000 and nine people being at this past year show.

01:20:03.391 --> 01:20:11.039
[SPEAKER_00]: So just a little bit of the April history of the paperview history, I guess they're premium events, premium live events, whatever we want to call them.

01:20:11.079 --> 01:20:17.885
[SPEAKER_00]: But the invasion of tax-secret of Genesis history there, there have been some very notable things that have happened at that show.

01:20:18.185 --> 01:20:23.550
[SPEAKER_00]: And we saw it again, it's not just another world title change this year with Newman and Suji.

01:20:23.952 --> 01:20:27.304
[SPEAKER_01]: Shout out to War Hero, drop it in, matching things should bodysher to one that night.

01:20:29.250 --> 01:20:30.816
[SPEAKER_00]: That, I mean, that would have been interesting.

01:20:31.297 --> 01:20:33.425
[SPEAKER_00]: Katso Yuri is the IWGP champion.

01:20:33.545 --> 01:20:36.375
[SPEAKER_01]: It would have changed a lot of history.

01:20:37.081 --> 01:20:38.083
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I definitely would have.

01:20:39.024 --> 01:20:40.386
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not saying that you're wrong.

01:20:40.686 --> 01:20:47.917
[SPEAKER_00]: It's Shabbata at one point was one of the very best workers in the world, a knucklehead of a human being that did really stupid stuff.

01:20:47.937 --> 01:20:54.347
[SPEAKER_00]: And I have some issues with his working style because I don't think he respected his opponent's safety.

01:20:54.828 --> 01:20:56.510
[SPEAKER_00]: He certainly didn't know Cotta's that night.

01:20:57.051 --> 01:21:01.538
[SPEAKER_00]: And it just had so happened that Shabbata was the one and the worst end of it.

01:21:01.978 --> 01:21:05.063
[SPEAKER_00]: But if that had but had not happened and it never should have happened.

01:21:05.043 --> 01:21:30.544
[SPEAKER_00]: There were still issues with that match where I thought he was unsafe with some of the people he worked with and I don't think I'm the only one there But and big man dogs as I remember being fine with him losing back then despite being a Shabbat a super fan he was captivating My goodness he was captivating you could not take your eyes off of Shabbat a single smash and big man dogs also said that he's frugal with his five star ratings But Shabbat a versus Ocata is a five for sure one of the best matches everything

01:21:30.524 --> 01:21:36.572
[SPEAKER_00]: And Nick Reeves also mentioned that that 10 cozy warm machine match might have been 10 songs final good match.

01:21:37.313 --> 01:21:38.915
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think you might be right Nick.

01:21:38.935 --> 01:21:50.190
[SPEAKER_00]: I think if you look back, that might have been the last true hurrah for 10 cozy before all that nerve damage and his neck and his back just started shutting down on him.

01:21:50.770 --> 01:21:59.822
[SPEAKER_00]: And now you see the 10s on now who can has to hold onto the ropes to get into the ring, unfortunately, that his body is just utterly ravaged, utterly ravaged.

01:22:00.680 --> 01:22:15.283
[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, white Jeremy, there you go, a little bit of history of saccharogenesis and maybe when you think about new Japan events, Russell came them obviously, Dominion for sure, and King of Pro Wrestling the last couple of years, but some very significant events have happened to saccharogenesis over the years.

01:22:15.303 --> 01:22:17.466
[SPEAKER_00]: So maybe we should treat it with little more respect.

01:22:17.947 --> 01:22:24.257
[SPEAKER_01]: At that point in the year, we're after retlucing them and I've done kind of fetal, the perfect time of year.

01:22:24.541 --> 01:22:28.787
[SPEAKER_01]: for you to just mic drop and fuck your shit a fuck up the fan shit.

01:22:28.807 --> 01:22:34.095
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what you're gonna get us on a, you are gonna get us restricted by the way on one of these things.

01:22:34.155 --> 01:22:36.519
[SPEAKER_01]: We are going to get that's not everybody's good.

01:22:36.539 --> 01:22:38.041
[SPEAKER_00]: That's about everybody's doing it.

01:22:38.121 --> 01:22:44.170
[SPEAKER_01]: We are gonna have to change our rating here before, but we went 90 minutes before I got so damn sorry.

01:22:44.190 --> 01:22:44.691
[SPEAKER_00]: We went like 15.

01:22:44.711 --> 01:22:49.498
[SPEAKER_01]: You went, you went, you went, you went, you went, you went, you went, you did the energetic today.

01:22:49.839 --> 01:22:50.139
[SPEAKER_00]: What can I say?

01:22:50.159 --> 01:22:50.820
[SPEAKER_00]: I know I know.

01:22:51.261 --> 01:22:52.843
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no, but yeah, I just

01:22:53.465 --> 01:22:54.307
[SPEAKER_00]: I respect your passion.

01:22:54.347 --> 01:22:54.788
[SPEAKER_00]: I understand.

01:22:55.309 --> 01:23:02.023
[SPEAKER_00]: I I'd curse to my mom listens to so I don't care realices.

01:23:02.804 --> 01:23:05.670
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to judge me and I apologize.

01:23:06.692 --> 01:23:07.334
[SPEAKER_00]: She doesn't judge you.

01:23:07.354 --> 01:23:08.055
[SPEAKER_00]: She loves your dog.

01:23:08.095 --> 01:23:09.358
[SPEAKER_00]: She's a big fan of your dog.

01:23:09.378 --> 01:23:10.881
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, cool.

01:23:11.382 --> 01:23:12.103
[SPEAKER_01]: You have many fans.

01:23:12.584 --> 01:23:13.887
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not feeding you yet.

01:23:14.255 --> 01:23:15.416
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

01:23:16.257 --> 01:23:17.699
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, we're just about done with this one.

01:23:17.959 --> 01:23:20.222
[SPEAKER_00]: And we've covered a few things.

01:23:20.282 --> 01:23:24.707
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm really grateful for the interaction this week, especially on a slow week when there aren't shows to cover.

01:23:25.088 --> 01:23:27.991
[SPEAKER_00]: It's nice to have this talking back and forth about many weeks.

01:23:28.031 --> 01:23:31.155
[SPEAKER_00]: And just to stay to the pro wrestling business as a whole, I really enjoyed it.

01:23:31.235 --> 01:23:33.137
[SPEAKER_00]: I was glad to hear everybody's thoughts.

01:23:33.157 --> 01:23:38.103
[SPEAKER_00]: So I want to thank all of you who joined us here live and kicked in your thoughts in the opinion.

01:23:38.143 --> 01:23:40.566
[SPEAKER_00]: So that goes for all of you, Colin.

01:23:40.546 --> 01:23:42.329
[SPEAKER_00]: Big man dogs, glad you were here.

01:23:42.369 --> 01:23:50.080
[SPEAKER_00]: Nick Reeves, of course, Brad, I always happy to see you, and we're here on 99 and all the guys.

01:23:50.140 --> 01:23:53.345
[SPEAKER_00]: You don't have to join us live, Jeremy Orr, as well.

01:23:54.507 --> 01:24:01.697
[SPEAKER_00]: I understand that you're not always able to join us live right here, but any interactions, whether it's comments, anything else, the whole likes and subscribes.

01:24:01.717 --> 01:24:07.726
[SPEAKER_00]: It really does help us, and it's real fuel for Jeremy and I to have that sort of interaction with you guys.

01:24:07.846 --> 01:24:08.207
[SPEAKER_00]: It's

01:24:08.187 --> 01:24:11.472
[SPEAKER_00]: my favorite part of the show, and I appreciate it.

01:24:11.492 --> 01:24:12.194
[SPEAKER_00]: So thanks, everybody.

01:24:12.454 --> 01:24:14.477
[SPEAKER_01]: I just appreciate that you guys like me.

01:24:16.581 --> 01:24:18.504
[SPEAKER_01]: You could hate me, and I'd be really sad.

01:24:18.804 --> 01:24:22.651
[SPEAKER_01]: But you guys seem to like me, and like me doing the show, and I'm very thankful for that.

01:24:22.791 --> 01:24:26.517
[SPEAKER_01]: So with that said, I want to tell everybody.

01:24:26.969 --> 01:24:34.907
[SPEAKER_01]: Whatever show you watch this week, whatever promotion you watch this week, whatever programming you watch this week, I hope you enjoy yourself.

01:24:35.207 --> 01:24:36.711
[SPEAKER_01]: I hope you enjoy the wrestling.

01:24:36.811 --> 01:24:46.412
[SPEAKER_01]: I hope that you get in touch with the core facets of what you like about pro wrestling and that that

01:24:47.000 --> 01:24:50.046
[SPEAKER_00]: and Jordan from Canada said about everyone covering Mania, pace yourself.

01:24:50.287 --> 01:24:50.788
[SPEAKER_00]: Hi, great.

01:24:51.229 --> 01:24:52.972
[SPEAKER_00]: Make sure you eat and get some sleep.

01:24:52.992 --> 01:24:53.794
[SPEAKER_01]: Hard guys.

01:24:53.994 --> 01:24:54.956
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not that hard.

01:24:55.237 --> 01:24:57.141
[SPEAKER_01]: It's hard to watch a WWE paper view.

01:24:57.181 --> 01:24:57.762
[SPEAKER_01]: Don't you know?

01:24:58.323 --> 01:24:59.866
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a marathon, not a sprint.

01:25:00.047 --> 01:25:00.828
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a marathon.

01:25:00.848 --> 01:25:01.289
[SPEAKER_01]: Good day now.

01:25:01.309 --> 01:25:08.063
[SPEAKER_01]: We're job to watch a WWE paper view from watching the show to doing the podcast after it's legitimately eight hours of my life.

01:25:09.595 --> 01:25:14.503
[SPEAKER_00]: I concur with what Jeremy said, whatever you choose to watch this weekend, I hope you enjoy the hell out of it.

01:25:14.603 --> 01:25:15.505
[SPEAKER_00]: I hope you have a great time.

01:25:16.025 --> 01:25:19.831
[SPEAKER_00]: And we will be back here next Thursday to cover all the latest news from New Japan for us.

01:25:19.872 --> 01:25:22.195
[SPEAKER_00]: Hopefully we'll have an opponent for you for you to surgii.

01:25:22.235 --> 01:25:23.117
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe maybe we won't.

01:25:23.157 --> 01:25:23.477
[SPEAKER_00]: Who knows?

01:25:24.078 --> 01:25:28.245
[SPEAKER_01]: But you will finally get a name to his opponent.

01:25:29.018 --> 01:25:31.564
[SPEAKER_00]: We'll cover those cork and house shows preview what's coming up.

01:25:32.246 --> 01:25:34.070
[SPEAKER_00]: And thanks to everybody who joined us here live.

01:25:34.150 --> 01:25:37.498
[SPEAKER_00]: All of you who listen later, either here on YouTube or the podcast.

01:25:37.739 --> 01:25:39.723
[SPEAKER_00]: We appreciate your time for Jeremy Findstone.

01:25:39.783 --> 01:25:40.605
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm Stephen Conway.

01:25:40.906 --> 01:25:42.249
[SPEAKER_00]: This has been Speaking of Strongstow.

01:25:42.329 --> 01:25:43.151
[SPEAKER_00]: We will talk to you again.

01:25:43.191 --> 01:25:44.174
[SPEAKER_00]: Real soon.

01:25:44.855 --> 01:25:45.998
[SPEAKER_00]: Cool fifth peak out, too.