Ryohei Oiwa vs. Yuya Uemura G1 Final Review ft. Chris Samsa | Speaking of Strong Style

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[SPEAKER_00]: the G1 climax is over for 2026.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It ended with a bang.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We had two excellent semi-final matches and a finals match that's being considered one of the best new Japan matches in years.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to talk about all of that with Jeremy Feinstein, of course, and Chris Samsa from sportofpro Wrestling.com.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We had to bring out the big guns for this one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: because we just saw a sublime main event to end this tournament.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's get right into it and talk about who benefited, who came out, looking good, who came out, looking bad, and what's ahead for New Japan Pro Wrestling coming out of an exciting G1.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Would you ever find some of Chris Samson?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm Stephen Conway.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is Speaking of Strong Style.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Welcome, everyone, this speaking of strong style.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What we discussed the news, dishes and events surrounding New Japan pro wrestling, we're contributors Jeremy and I are to the fight game media network.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Chris has his own get going sport of pro wrestling.com.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You've heard his name many times on New Japan broadcast.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He has helped out announcers for years.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And of course, he runs the big pickup pool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: My favorite Jeremy Feinstone just off the podium finished in fourth place on that's we're very proud to have you here Chris we got to meet you in person a few weeks ago at the very beginning of this tournament now we get to book and it with you after it finishes up this weekend how have you been feeling have you been enjoying this tournament as much as we have for the most part.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, of course, especially that tail end.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, what could I possibly complain about considering I started this tournament with friends coming to Chicago, my city and enjoying the beginning of the G1 climax, which is my favorite thing in wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then it ended like that with that final, and honestly, those semis, too, I mean,

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, what a run.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I, you know, the middle guy with the middle was the middle.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, stuff happened and stuff was not all perfect, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: But damn, I'm riding, I'm riding a high.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So we're, I'm feeling good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I hope, I hope the rest of the fandom and the group than the people that that I talk to, I hope everyone's feeling the same.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So it does, it sure seems that way.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Anyone with a brain at least?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's been very, very exciting for there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just going to make it clear.

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[SPEAKER_01]: My entire rig just went weird.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't have headphones on today.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So if you guys hear echoes within the microphone of people talking, I apologize.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We had Chris Samsa for an hour, and we're going to make the best of every car with one of my machinery words.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And in the least of the weird they've been happening this week, but we don't have time for any of that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We got to talk to you on it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Great to see everybody.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's get to it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so Nick Graves is here and he again capsulates a feeling I think I've gotten from a lot of people over the last few days.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He says he's feeling properly rejuvenated a new Japan for the first time in a while after that tournament and the finals for Andreas is here Jeremy or is with us for glad you guys are here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel the same way that when we left last week, we had our semi-finals.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was all set.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But we also had tensons retirement for goodness sakes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We haven't even mentioned that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The semi-finals on Saturday, finals on Sunday, but that final match Reohei O'Ewa.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The winner of the G1 climax tournament at a match against Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-

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[SPEAKER_00]: Reminded me why when New Japan is on, it does this better than anyone else.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That match was highly unusual.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was worked differently than almost every other match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You see in Pro Wrestling right now, and it was a work of art.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was just two artists that were really bringing their own take on what Pro Wrestling could be to this tournament.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They had good crowds, both days at Rio Goco-Coucoucoucoucoucoucoucoucoucoucoucoucoucoucoucoucoucoucoucoucoucoucoucoucoucoucoucoucoucoucoucoucoucoucoucoucoucoucoucoucoucoucoucoucoucoucoucoucoucoucoucoucoucoucoucoucoucoucoucoucou

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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll talk about that, too, as we had up and down attendance but at the end, again, the book ends.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Chicago Head Strong attendance, two nights and Simo Hall had strong attendance.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It feels guys like enthusiasm's up there after those.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I want to create a state, but I think we are so back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It feels like a quarter's been turned a little bit, didn't it?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, just, yeah, and it wasn't only the finals, because I thought both semi-final matches were outstanding as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we had four guys involved, none of whom had won a G1 before, so it had the excitement of knowing we were going to get a first time winner.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And three of those four guys, Calum Newman being the foreign wrestler in the exception of this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Homegrown, New Japan guys who, you know, they came up with that arbitrary three musketeers with Shoda, Suji and Uimura, but O-Iwa was only about one six months behind him a year.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The three musketeers are actually Shoda.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, Reggie and Narita.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, Narita was it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's the right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He was great.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Somehow, you and Mar is actually a part of like the next little wave with the we were probably.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, with with with with with with with with with with with with with with with and honestly as I wrote last year in my G1 kind of postmortem on voices of wrestling, I I also noted that Calum Newman was part of that group.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I was I was patent myself on the back this week when I went back and read my article.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was like, Oh, man, I totally nailed it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, so maybe Jeremy's the best at the sort of micro picking of a tournament.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, the symmetry stuff, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: But when we go macro, when we go a little bigger, I get a little higher up.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Man, I can get some shit right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I mean, we're all among a crowd that just kind of see if the patterns, you know, like you see the bit stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I see, I don't know, I see little stuff like things that they could that they could do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the whole thing for me was,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just didn't buy that you was going to have, like, gonna win the G1, go to wrestling kingdom.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like it just, it was so easy and nothing that New Japan have done.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's been easy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They over complicate the whole pathway every year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so what if they didn't, but what if they had you, you'd be, you know, to Fuji, to get there, then, you know, like, you had you had the counterpoint of column Newman being the other IWGP champion being the other gatekeeper.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you had both IWGP champion in the 2020 fifth being the gatekeeper to these guys getting their opportunity to win the G1.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And like I said, it's just a symmetry of all these things that they managed to come through that like you said the feeling is back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I rewatch the finals again today.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And there really was just this excitement of like, okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you guys understand what makes New Japan so special and it's fresh, you know, like there wasn't

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[SPEAKER_01]: There wasn't Shota in there and there wasn't Yota in there that had been to the dance so many times.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And hadn't been there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So there was, I don't want to say damage goods, but you knew what you were getting and it was going to be a redemption story if it was going to be for Shota, rather than an ascension story that it was for you, or OEWA, depending on who was the one that quiet in the

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[SPEAKER_01]: to clear the board in a lot of ways and making sure that everyone understood it's like, no, there's more than just these two guys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We have, we have an army of guys that are ready to represent the Trump style.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Chris, as you were watching that finals there and you saw the way it began to work and we're going to talk about the sunrise as well because of course we were eliminated the champion you know to soon g and a really good match about 25 minutes and then we had we also had.

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[SPEAKER_00]: uh... the uh... the the other semi-final being uh... jese uh... way more uh... oewa uh... winning his match there over a calumnum and uh... in another really good one but uh... let's talk about that that finals match and the way it was work i i noted immediately a lot of people have it wasn't that you don't need an expert to notice that it was worked differently

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[SPEAKER_00]: very few big bumps.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There were a few.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There were some suplexes and things, but not a power bomb in sight.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They never touched the floor.

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[SPEAKER_00]: At one point, Uemoro was kind of pushed over the top rope and then they immediately used that for a headlock spot to drag him right back in.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was seconds.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They never hit the floor.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Not a lot of huge bumps and dives.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, there was a little bit there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was very physical.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But

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[SPEAKER_00]: they worked holds in a way we haven't seen in pro wrestling at this level in a really long time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought it resembled some of those matches you can see on the NJPW world archives from the all the way back to the 70s where it's working headlocks and

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[SPEAKER_00]: arm bars, wrist locks, even a kravat, they didn't want kravat segment in this thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like anything we've seen in a very long time, no stillness though.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They were not resting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: These weren't rest-holds, so to speak, as a lot of people consider.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They were

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[SPEAKER_00]: working ways to get in and out of them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They were portraying the struggle of trying to escape from these things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the pain when you're in them, it was a real different version of pro wrestling than what we're used to, which gets to be a little car crashy, sometimes let's just see how many bumps we can cramp into 20mins.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so I had hope that, I mean, not quite at this level, but I had hope that this would be the style that they would execute.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was a during sort of match of the year season last year.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was a huge advocate for Iowa and humorous G1 match from last.

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[SPEAKER_02]: last year's G1, G135, was my match of the year.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That was my pick for the best match that I saw last calendar year.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And a lot of that's emotional, a lot of that for me is emotional because I like these two guys.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They got in there in a semi-main event in Cork and Hall.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And they had a truncated version of the match that we saw in the final.

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[SPEAKER_02]: right we they had a 15-ish minute version of that match and it blew my mind it blew my mind that they would do that in that spot and and and it it felt like a

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[SPEAKER_02]: mission statement at the time, even then.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then, you know, I, even in my emails to the broadcast guys, when I'm sending along my notes for the semifinals, I said, I said, here's written here's written for my final right my final is oil versus you mirror right anyone who's heard me talk on a podcast knows I'm a you a mirror guy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, and, you know, and I've never been super high on Ewo, but I am high on Ewo's G1 now, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: He, he defined himself through the play in as well as some of the tag where he did earlier this year, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: He has, he has ascended up my ranks, you know, without a doubt, and he just looks the part.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, he looks like a beast.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So,

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was really hopeful that they weren't going to stray from what what I perceive worked last year in their in their semi-main at at Corrican and you know of course that day I went back and watched it and I was like man it'd be cool if they could do this on a higher level and I woke up just in time to watch this final and my goodness did they nail it right they did exactly what I hope they would do it was the perfect

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[SPEAKER_02]: match that these two guys can execute.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, there's a lot of discourse about, you know, where what that means for wrestling and why, you know, is it pseudo-intellectualism to like this versus the flips and the kicks?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And it's like, I mean, like,

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, it's not, not everything can be this, not everyone can do this, and what's so special is that particularly these two guys, I don't even know if any of the other people in this generation could do this together, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: But when these two dudes get in the ring, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if Suji can do that match.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if Newman can do that match.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like these guys were wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like it was almost like it was just like a shoot.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And they knew they were going to try to hurt each other, but they were just like, I got the hold right now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So like, eventually I'm going to let you out because this isn't the finish, but like, they were like wrenching stuff in.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Real good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And just community.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It told the true story.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it told the real story because the first 10 minutes, which Nick Reeves mentioned, I think everybody feels the same way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Went by in a flash.

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[SPEAKER_00]: When they made that 10-minute call, you know, the jupel and we were like, jupel, you know, not go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, it's got to be five.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I get it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, it was like, that's 10.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was 10.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Even Chris Charlton mentioned it that it didn't feel like it was 10 minutes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I felt more like the five call.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it was all Uemora working the headlock on OEWA.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, like, you know, and, and all we love doing everything he could get it and then he get it and slip out and all we're going to slip out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it just had these ups and downs and then all we will eventually like the crap out who works the crap out that's not named Zack's average junior, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, they did it for minutes at a time and it never dragged a bit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you make the point, you know, who else could do this?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not sure anybody else could, but

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not a matter, and I understand an intellectual thing, and the intellectualism for me.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's a, that's just telling me, totally.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Totally.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But wrestling is supposed to be a variety show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And if you have guys that can do something different, where Tasey and Aboush did a match was all late.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Six, a few years ago.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going back away for that one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Bye.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's one time when you can do things you think and in wrestling, it's not, yeah, it's not supposed to be the same thing over and over again, so that's supposed to.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Same thing over and over.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But you, Ben, when it's done well.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Usually when this point comes up though, it's about promos or style or US versus US, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: A, W, versus W, W, we're talking about del 2 bell, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And you don't, you just don't, you don't really see that conversation come up very often because wrestling has gotten.

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[SPEAKER_02]: same thing right across the board.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I won't say same, but, but same structure almost everywhere.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, you know, formatting around the way Raccoon has presented.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And yeah, and if you really dial it down to, you know, whatever, if if a two wrestlers have 15 minutes and all likelihood, they.

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[SPEAKER_02]: sketch the first 10 and then the last five are you know are the finish and they work that out in the back or whatever so like and but that's the peak and you've got kickouts in this that and the other thing and all those things were still present this was and I do take I take a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, I don't agree with the, the 1970s assessment that I'm, I'm seeing, and that's even that you said, right, they paced it so differently.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They paced it modern, but 70s style.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was like they took.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, it's like they took a Beatles song and put a synth on it to make it sound like, and that's basically what pop music is right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So it's sort of that right where they took the simplicity of something that that was once complex and they actually did it in a way that is incredibly modern because they're more fit than those guys.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They've got more they had more stamina.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, this was the second longest G1 climax final ever.

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[SPEAKER_02]: by two seconds and they were unstoppable.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They wouldn't stop.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was crazy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I've never seen anything like even in the highest flying fastest pace matches you can see, like those dudes are still pausing for something because they're waiting for the next guy to show up, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Or do whatever.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And that's all well and good, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This is what it is.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I love that stuff, too.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But man, these guys, the cardio on these two, holy moly.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like that was, that was, it was really a site to be seen.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, that was what I was saying about the constant motion.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's, it's one thing to to be in a hole.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's the patients to work that hold at the same time they're constantly working to get in and out of it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So there's no stillness.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was the difference here is like you said perpetual motion in this match and it was pretty incredible to watch and you know the guys were, you know, covered and sweat afterwards and they had worked as hard as anybody, but the brilliance of it is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They didn't take that bad all the huge bumps and things like that, you know, they just managed to put together a match that was that riveting, that exciting based around holdwork.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's a challenge.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, when they were, I'm guaranteed when they were talking about it like, is this a good idea?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Are the people going to be into this, you know, when they were talking about it in the back, but they had a vision and I think it hit on, it hit on all cylinders and it's the type of match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think certainly Rio Heo heo heo heo heo heo has been helped.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's a G1 winner now and that means something in New Japan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think this match helped Ue Mora exactly as much because now I think when we come around G1 next year, a large portion that fan base is going to be aching for him to get his win now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't know if that was there this year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he has fans.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not trying to say it doesn't have fans.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But there is something like there were a couple of matches that the crowd just didn't seem over the course of the tournament.

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[SPEAKER_00]: where the crowd wasn't that into him all the time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we hear that sometimes, where it's just kind of quiet for him in some places, I think that's going to turn around.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think now people are invested in this guy finally getting his victory after that performance and coming up that close but short, that's to me the recipe for him gaining all kinds of momentum from this as long as they they book him moderately intelligently.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think you have baby face energy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We've got a peak against Gabe Kid near the end of the tournament.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that was the kind of momentum that got him into the post block play.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Chris, you actually had mentioned in your note that you kind of gave the commentator to a bunch of the podcasters that real hell you had.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We had one made event match that had gone past 19 minutes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: 19 minutes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so this one nearly went double that, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And

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[SPEAKER_01]: When I watch this match, I'm like, keep going guys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, you don't have to stop.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just keep, just keep it running like, and it's almost like, how long can you guys keep doing this?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because there was a, there was a magnificent in just how hard they were going and the given take.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I had talked about this actually cheap plug, but I ended up on wrestling with a radio with Dave Alkher and Garrett.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he had talked about the 70s match about how it differed and it was similar to Dory Funk and Jack Briscoe.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And but you was pushing back that there were definitely like things about it that were not like the 70s at all, but the just a fight to be the best.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what kind of with tied to the Funk Briscoe match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't think people are talking enough about the fact.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They never left outside the ring.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There were no reflums.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There were no funky spot where something happened and advantageous taken.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was simply two guys beating the hell out of each other in order to prove that they were the best after a variety of variety of different matches that we saw in the G1.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You saw Bolnoleg, Squash, Sonata.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Naree doing the first submission loss that he had in four years against that saber junior, the variety that we all talk about.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You got everything in this G1 and the magnificent of the final, just being the simplest wrestling match of grapplehold, just underwinds, this is what New Japan is best at.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it was a team effort too because I noticed this that as they built this thing and of course he's been working that the headlock has a big move the entire tournament but it takes more than a way more a both to cash to in particular and a column Newman I noticed started working it like they were almost in a panic when they were in it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that built matches leading up to that finals where they were selling the holds, it's like, oh my god, I can't believe how much of this hurts.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And when he would get it on them, there would be the body language of somebody like panicking as I have to get out of this, I have to get out of this right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: By the time you get to the final after saying two former Europeans to catch a newman is sell it like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: When he when he finally had luck on OEMora and kept it on OEMora, you believe 100% that OEMora was in huge trouble.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it, just like that, that's the moment he clamped it on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Finally clamped on, first 10 minutes, they teased it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he couldn't do it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Once he finally got it, you believed it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And again, that's just all the work.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And all the work that all we would did selling his arm after he was out of the wrist, a lot of people forget to sell holds after they're out of them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But he's shaking his arm, patting it, kind of trying to get the feeling back in it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Minutes after he was in that long, arm bar wrist lock spot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was all the details, all the details added up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is what New Japan does really well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Roll awards your attention.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you watch the long-term story and they bring it around so that all of those little things that you focused on and paid attention to come back and you get to see it all again, that's one of the most rewarding things you can do for an audience and New Japan does as well as anybody.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's nice that they gave it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They gave us the gift this time, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: We didn't have to trudge through.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We didn't have to, we don't have to convince ourselves that this was good, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like this was just good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was great.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like I don't know, like I don't have to sell it to like anybody that, you know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And you don't have to overexplain to do the you know I put this match in front of my wife and and because I was like buzzing on it right after his live and then you know later in the day she was like can I watch I was like yeah I absolutely that's why I'll watch it is I'll watch it all day we can watch that repeat.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She's a part of it, but she she didn't keep up with the tournament not not the way, you know, not the way anyone does Totally and she watched it and like by the end of it

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[SPEAKER_02]: And like, I was like, could you believe that was 35 minutes?

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[SPEAKER_02]: She's like, wait, what?

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[SPEAKER_02]: She was literally like, huh?

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[SPEAKER_02]: She's like, how was that a half an hour?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I was like, I know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They just didn't, they didn't give you time to realize how long they had gone.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, they didn't, they gave you no time to like, think about how long they had been doing this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was just so amazing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: what I would have loved for you to do since she's a perfect case for this is ask her based off of what she saw on that first night because we all talked about OE1 Bolton where position in the semi-main.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If what she saw that night

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, let her, like, what she called last night confirmed that these two should have been in the final.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, you saw them there and did they, did they make an impression on her then that she was believing that they could make it to the finals?

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[SPEAKER_02]: What's a good question?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I will, I will prompt that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's a good, that is a good question.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It, I mean, we have to look back to that night, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right, because you, you had, we were all surprised by what was in the semi-main event slot.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And, and looking back on it, right, hindsight 2020 and all that, especially with a guy like, Oh, we're going on and winning the G1.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Of course, someone's like, I saw it coming.

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[SPEAKER_02]: but I'll tell you this, 2% of the people that join the sport of porrestling pick-up, picked away what a win the tournament.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, 2.1%, 13 people out of the nearly 600.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, and even that probably was just people trying to win the game, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: you have to have a contrary and pick or you have to get everything right if they're just going to do chalk.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, I'm very okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So this is really funny because I did my pick that Saturday morning.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can see on like the timestamp like I was a last minute person and I looked at that match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, it's an olig or is it oligoy was that I need to get behind on this?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was just like, oh, it's been there longer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just, I felt Bolton.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But if I gone the other way, you know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, the tracking would have been all the way to you, uh, and way with the finals, and I would have, it would have been amazing, whatever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But it was just one of those like, congratulations to all those people that saw oligoy and just went with it

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, it was you, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And it was showed it was you showed a it was a little bit of sugy right as like who else, you know, they haven't gotten behind it, they haven't gotten behind anybody else.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So do do do do do do, right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like those are those are really the big three.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And once to me, no one out, I mean, everyone sort of there was a loss of interest because they're everyone's winner was out, but I'll tell you this, you got to go to fifth place to find someone who picked, I was the winner.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I still can't believe that like people didn't climb higher off of, yeah, the oil, like, pathway.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like me ending up in fourth and only having like one person in the finals, it didn't even win.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I thought I was going to have this precipitous drop down to like 55 and oh, it's like, yeah, whatever.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But because it's kind of absurd, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: If you look back, he was, he had to play in.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He had to be, who, well, he.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, that was my Aaron Wolf theory.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was, well, yeah, well, like Aaron Wolf had to play in and go all the way in with the whole thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's like, I had the idea.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just had the wrong.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I guess, you know, maybe maybe shifting subjects a little bit, like all those guys elevated, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's an elevated wolf looks really good throughout this whole tournament that I think see 17 to the 25 right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, in a better place than they were absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and I think I think

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[SPEAKER_02]: you know this was we've been hoping for this right for what three years now since the what I like to call the 20-minute G1.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I hate the 20-minute G1 so much.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It ruined everything.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It didn't ruin everything but it really sent me on a spiral that year.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah since the 20-minute G1 we're all the young guys got in right and Kto Kiemia is in it and dotted it at that right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean we wanted this G1

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[SPEAKER_02]: They couldn't have given it to us then, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And now we know that, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Now we know that they just couldn't have done it without it feeling contrived or forced.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And it felt real.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think I don't know what the plan was, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: No one does.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And we probably never will.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But like,

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[SPEAKER_02]: Boy, we're winning maybe it was them going with a hot hand and just run in with it and seeing what happens or maybe this was the plan all along.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know because once you take umina out of the picture, who everyone kind of presumed was going to be in the mix, maybe they needed someone else to get in there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But honestly, to me, maybe that someone else was you, you and Mura.

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[SPEAKER_02]: and maybe the plan was or it was a long and they just needed someone in the final that he could really get after it with and because it's it's odd right it's odd that someone was the loser of both the new Japan cup final and the g one final is the only the second person to lose both major highway tournament.

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[SPEAKER_02]: in a year in the final right goto in 2016 and you were in 2026 so I mean and I think you're totally right Steven I think you will murder game just as much from just being in that match being a part of it and I'm saying my big torment he's and

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[SPEAKER_02]: But he's a driver, when he's in a match, he's a driver, and I think they know that he'll get his moment when it makes sense.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But you know who's been in on Iowa since the beginning.

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[SPEAKER_02]: anyone who paid attention to him in Noah?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Noah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I've been in on, oh, yeah, I've been saying this phrase this thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: His times coming.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't know that this was going to be the year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't pretend to say that I predicted him or I was, you know, but I've been high on, oh, yeah, I just think the guy is just a class act.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've been a little rough on it way more, and I still think he's helped with promos.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's he's bad at those, but he's my little golden retriever.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he's happy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, we have been living since for the last three years since Fuji basically showed up and did the whole domain and thing a few years ago of perpetually having a football like Lucy and Charlie Brown with our young baby faces.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So the fact that they actually put away what in a position to succeed,

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[SPEAKER_01]: still doesn't make me believe that he is on a pathway to easily win this IWGT title.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh no, he's totally losing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's yeah, he's not going to win the man.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I guess anything can happen, but like I mean, if I was a betting man, and I had my polymarked out, I would be betting against him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, like, oh, you were getting the day one victory and, and I think himself, one of the guy, like, he got what he needed out of

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[SPEAKER_02]: it's so much more, that's so much more than him winning this title.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think and you know that we're going to get some of you guys this comments.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I promise you're in a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We only have Chris for a limited amount of time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we want to make sure we get we talk to him, but not and we're going to talk to.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we're going to talk about the awards that they gave out to.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They did something a little bit different this year with the awards.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think it's a really smart idea, by the way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We want to give that the props, too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But something that I was was looking at there when we came to,

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's my train of thought a little bit, but when we were talking about how, you know, where these guys are in relation to each other and whom and whether he will win this title or not is really the main thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Again, I don't think that we want needs to.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I also think it'll be weird because we are in a

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[SPEAKER_00]: And here and now we're we're past the point where the G1 winner goes all the way to wrestle kingdom and does the title match there hasn't happened in years and the last two years the king of pro wrestling has been where the title change happened.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I guess a Zach won his uh it uh the king of pro wrestling last year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I guess it was a to catch the over Zach.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think at what a KLPW and now this year OU says I'm going to challenge a king of pro wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It has worked.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not going to say it didn't work when Kenny Omega won the tournament and went all the way to Kingdom.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No one's complaining about that or went on a ashy did.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it's less common than I think people think for the winner of the G1 to go all the way to rest of Kingdom with the title match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a long time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's five months.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a long time for the World Champion and the top challenger to be in that spot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: incredibly mind numbing number of LIJ versus just five guys matches that we had where everybody was sick and tired of the match before it got to the ring.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know what I think we're having here is I like the station to station aspect of this you know G1 maybe to King of Pro Wrestling and then it's a tight you know what one two three two and a half three months or so from

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[SPEAKER_00]: from King of Pro Wrestling to wrestling, and that feels about right to build a wrestling kingdom match and things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, I've heard some people just say always, I get another October challenge.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, that's not all that unusual.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you look back at the history of G1 is a Christmas.

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[SPEAKER_02]: no and that's I mean that's just sort of I think we can just confirm that's that's what we're doing now yeah I think I you don't have to look at the g one and say well who could mean event rest of kingdom anymore right and and and I did think I thought if if the winner was I guess someone a little more

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[SPEAKER_02]: Established, I thought maybe Suji was going to pull his like bring it all back to the way things were when things were great and say like no, you get your challenge at rest of kingdom like that was sort of the only way to get here, but what they're really doing is they're establishing reagoku as As this big stop right so reagoku's the G1 final this person wins a G1 final in reagoku and Zach really started this he he this was a big talking point for him.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He said, I'm taking, I want, you know, I won the G1 here.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I want to win the title here in this building with this history.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And obviously, the Tokyo dome has that same aura, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Even even a different aura, but Rio Goke who's a really important building for New Japan.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think they're doing it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They're maybe inadvertently doing a lot of work.

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[SPEAKER_02]: to rebuild their draw in that particular space.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think that it's working, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: They're doing their best to make it work.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so now you've got secure agenesis, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Where the new Japan Cup winner takes their title shot, shortly thereafter, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And that's in Rio Goku.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then you've got G1 final in Rio Goku, big deal, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then you've got King of Pro Wrestling, later in the year.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So they're making that their tent pole building,

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[SPEAKER_02]: outside of obviously the Tokyo dome.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's their mid-sized building that they can do three or four times a year and and fill with big matches.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, and I think that that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: that would have meant something to you over to because he had come in undefeated in undefeated in singles matches, you know, in the G1 in Rio Goke, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like he was he had a lot, he had a lot at stake in in that particular building.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, um

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I think we can just next year when we're all looking at the G1, there's going to be a lot of conversation about who can go to wrestle kingdom.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And like that's just not that's not the story anymore.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's just not what they're doing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And it makes me a little worried for how we get to the whatever they want the rest of the main event to be, you cannot have showed him, you know, just walk out from the back, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, like, do we can't do that to him again?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Can we?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would hope that they've learned their lesson from that one that that didn't it didn't work.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it just objectively didn't work.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was in the building that building one that building was there was a rough crowd.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The it does put you in a prominent place at rest looking to winning the G1.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's that's one thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And if he loses this match to Suji.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I am very curious to see what OE would as a global title is that a never title thing or what I I still feel like show to Umino's story when he comes back from concussion is with the deathwriters.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's got to get rid of that hurdle before he moves on to other things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it's got to be a kid or someday it needs to be moxley, you know, but who knows?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, they gave Gabe Kid a microphone after his last G1 match.

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[SPEAKER_02]: and he and they gave him a chance to, you know, to taunt Shota.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So like that to me says, if nothing else, the first thing Shota is doing when he comes back, besides a bunch of random tag matches that he's in on the, is to fight Gabe Kid.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, and that I think sets him on course, hopefully, for, for Moxley at the dome, I guess I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't really want Moxley and Osprey both in key singles matches at the Tokyo dome.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I, I want both of those matches, but I don't want them on that show if that makes sense, but I don't.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I, I'm with you on all of that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I don't think those dudes are coming in for anything other than the Tokyo dome though.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like all in and again, we,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Go ahead.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Go ahead.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The tricky thing about having both Osprey and Moxley on the show, I find it very hard to believe AEW would let both of them lose and Newman and showed it need to win those matches.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just find it hard to believe that they would do that where, oh yeah, I have two of our big stars.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No problem.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's, it's a big ask to be fair from the, from anybody's perspective.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's why I'm kind of weary about that because then I think, oh God, one of them is going to win and that doesn't help New Japan.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't need to get negative what I say this, but.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a certain aspect that in predictable and offspray comes in, if he's going to lose, he's going to have to drop the AEW title first, because there's no way he lives in the column Newman as the AEW world champion.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So there's kind of a like a process here that has to happen in order to even set this match up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It could all be tied into each other like,

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[SPEAKER_01]: cost him that title and lead up to that match, but that's not a new Japan story.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like that becomes an AEW story, and I'm not into that being an AEW story.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Flying you, this needs to be a new Japan centric and the other aspect of this is it's the elephant of the room, but

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[SPEAKER_01]: the booking pattern and schedule making for NutriPan is incredibly static and incredibly stale in a lot of ways.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like you go from wrestle kingdom and then you have like two month for your kind of trend water doing new beginning until you get to NutriPan cup and then you have whatever you're going to do at the NutriPan cup and you do that match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then you kind of tread water until the G1 and then you do the G1 and everything happens there and then you have the most interesting two months which is everything happens to the G1 to get to wrestle kingdom but we'll cook total kind of hits it's like

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[SPEAKER_01]: Pull the brakes, world tag league, super junior tag league, undercard of wrestling kingdom.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is the things that we're focusing on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we are going into the most exciting part.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think that the right wrestlers are being positioned for the top matches in some way, shape or form moving forward.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I can totally see real hell we went and sat in super junior having a match of wrestling kingdom.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, you would definitely win the title, even if he does win the title, like that's the match that you want to have is as champion defending against that Saber Jinger.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Everyone has their story.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just

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[SPEAKER_01]: In the G1, they told everyone's story about what they were going to do and how they were going to win the G1.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was like filtering through and finding out, oh, real hell, we will story with the one that you really needed to pay attention to.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So now you've filtered it down to like five or six guys that could be in that main event picture with On either side of champion or not champion and it'll be interesting to see what they do from here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you're right about that world tagly being kind of a slower time of year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think this year they have a chance to do something more interesting with that with the knockout brothers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's true.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And those guys are over.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that if they go in without the titles and I think they should.

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[SPEAKER_00]: that the story should be them trying to win World Tag League to get the kingdom then I think you have something that the fans can think their teeth into in late November and December when normally it's just kind of a like you mentioned to be fair that heavyweight tag team tournament has been a little bit like just kind of waiting for wrestling to become a lot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And to see like maybe maybe someone will turn on somebody else and we'll get at a grudge match or something like that never really seems to happen too much, but this year I think they have something there and that that does bring me because I know we've got to we've got to get Chris going here in and before too much longer.

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[SPEAKER_00]: want to talk about these special prizes, because I think these were, this is a really good idea and I think it's a really smart move.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, this is something they do in sumo at each tournament.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so there's six tournaments a year and they have an outstanding, it's not called outstanding achievement, but it's basically what it means.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's a different Japanese word for it, but there's also a fighting spirit award and there's a technique prize.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And those are all,

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[SPEAKER_00]: the the sumo administrators decide who gets those prizes and their and their key things for these guys career it's one of the things that's noted how many of these they have so it's something that sumo fans hold on to.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They came out with a fan vote and I think it was a really clever idea and for outstanding achievement as you see on the screen right there they chose Oleg Bolton

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[SPEAKER_00]: And guys we just talked about how he was in the semi-main in Chicago and had a really good match with OEWA.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He was very impressive all through.

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[SPEAKER_00]: In a tournament where 17 of the 20 guys came out in better shape, it's a tough crowd, isn't it?

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[SPEAKER_00]: But Bolton was fantastic all the way through it and he looks like he could be an IWGP title contender in the near future and I don't know if we were saying that a year ago.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I certainly wasn't saying that a year ago.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I, you know, you see the potential, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's the, sure, but I didn't see it happening in front of me.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And now I'm, I'm clam, I mean, he beat Suji.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Didn't he?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I think, I think that's, I mean, it's a match that's on the board, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: It feels like maybe a power struggle level match, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: someone, someone's got to, you know, they, so he said, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, he come up with man.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, he's, he lost a bunch.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, when it comes down to it, to guys that matter, not we're not talking to Rihanna Rollup, so you're okay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We're talking dudes, you know, and they're, you know, coming up.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, so he should rest a little more.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And he, you know, he'd lost to almost all the former champions.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So he's, he's going to have a busy fall, I think, before we know exactly what's going on with,

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[SPEAKER_02]: Before we know for sure what's going on with Racer Kingdom, I mean, who knows man, maybe go to challenges on World Tech League final night, but like it does.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It feels like it feels like all those guys are ready for more, but I think it was notable that I will finish top three in all of those voting categories.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I mean, so good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The whole, just everyone, everyone who was watching saw it in one way or another, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And what, and those are three very pretty distinct categories.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And he, he really put it all together.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it was a photo match for me, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Watch him grind a head walk and it worked because you're so, you are so inclined.

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[SPEAKER_01]: with a long hold like a submission hold like that that unless they tap out immediately they're going to get out of it in some way shape or form and he never did and it felt so earned the second time in the finals that big Roy managed to apply the headwalk.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because he had it first, some kind of like 20 minutes in and he had it for like three minutes, but yeah, we murdered out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was like, oh, he got lucky.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He got out, but what he got in that second time everyone just kind of knew it was like, oh, I don't think he's getting out of this one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And

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[SPEAKER_02]: but they still didn't stop moving.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But they weren't sure that they're like, right, you knew like, you were watching it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, oh, he might, he might move to, you had people believing that he could move to this headlock.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then he did.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, and they'd also establish that you American win a bunch of different ways.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, because throughout throughout the course of the tournament, he didn't just stick to the deadball.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He didn't only in the final, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He didn't stick to, you know, the quote unquote high-fly flow.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He didn't stick to anything, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: He just e-1 the match.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He won his matches a bunch of different ways.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So shining elbow with my favorite.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I like it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't like it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I have no issue with that move and I don't think it's goofy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think it is it's a neat.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's a neat maneuver.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's a good impact.

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[SPEAKER_02]: If you want to get someone grounded and pick them up or you want to splash on them like whatever, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's it's I think it's a nice.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's a great addition.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's got a little bit of pizzazz.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's not so simple, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: You immerse kind of known as the smooth simple guy, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And there's I particularly do like that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Ricky steamboat style, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, like, that's sort of his thing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Everyone says it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's true, but he's adding some impact stuff.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And now he's adding some groundwork, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And some, some matwork, especially when he's in there with the oil, I mean, my only question is like, when do they run that matchback and on what stage?

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[SPEAKER_02]: right because you know now that's the new generation match their generational rivals now there's no way around it you know and and obviously you immerse got a big history with sugi and umina because they all came up together narita too right he's still never beat narito which is insane um it's it's my one of my favorite things to run into as I'm looking at satsin info it's like

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[SPEAKER_02]: So it's, there's so much at play now, they set so much groundwork over the course of this, me whatever, 90, 80, some odd matches.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They set so much groundwork for what could happen next.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And now there's so much for us, you know, analysts and people who pay attention at this level to like sing our teeth into and hope for.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Now they've got stories to tell and it all came out of the G1 and that's what's that's the beauty of the G1 right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Is that like they've all told they've all introduced themselves in this in this tournament They all introduced themselves to the you know the bigger fandom and especially throughout the semis and finals All four dudes that were in the semis really introduced themselves to Throughout the course of the back half of the tournament.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I think I mean it just feels really good right now

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[SPEAKER_01]: One of the, one of the suggestions I heard is actually Garrett had mentioned to the speech, because he didn't watch any of it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He just didn't have a chance.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He didn't have time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But he said that if he would, what he probably would have done.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think this is actually really fantastic.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's pick one guy and follow his pathway through the entire G1.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And as your

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[SPEAKER_01]: Watching his matches with a variety of other wrestlers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe you find the other wrestler like oh, I want to see more of their matches Yeah, so instead of like jumping in and like I don't know any of these 20 guys or any of these things if somebody wants to dig into the g1 post-haste like

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[SPEAKER_01]: like in retrospect, just pick one guy and watch all of their matches all the way through and explore that way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's perfectly designed for that on the New Japan New Japan World.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, like you could just go in, chapter, find the match on a skip every other day and call it a day.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's actually something to that that I kind of recommend for people that don't know how to get into the G1 if they were inclined to try.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Just don't pick great okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: dog for sure.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know why you would, but certainly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We can try and take it always strong.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Certainly not recommended.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I recommend not recommend me.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's he's contrarian so many ways.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I, uh, I'll contrarire my friend.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Contraried to good and yeah, for contrary to effort.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Contraried to popular police.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm curious, Chris, your take on, obviously, you can hear that you weren't happy with him either, but it's a curious case for us, and we've just been discussing the idea that maybe, because he shows up at all these gamer things, he shows a bit of bad events, and he's thrown out the picture baseball games, and he's turning up at video game, eSports tournaments,

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[SPEAKER_00]: My theory and it's something that Suji kind of said in his post-match comments about O'Conn after the match was just like it feels like he's only being a pro wrestler so that he can be famous and do the stuff he actually likes doing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that he would rather be doing that, but he has to be a wrestler or he doesn't get to do that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he's over here showing up for wrestling matches because he's that puts him on TV and it makes him so that can introduce him as a

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think enough about a great O'Con to have a theory about why he's the way he is.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's, he's had, since he came back, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And attached himself to Osprey.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And all that, like he's had a couple of moments from like, oh, this is cool, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And he went on that run at the end of one of the G1s and made his way into the knockout stage and all that, and that was kind of neat.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I don't know, I feel like he's hedging, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: But he's got this big character that he's kind of saddled with.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I wish he would just like, I wish New Japan, I do wish New Japan was just more willing to like, repackage guys that when stuff's not working.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And just like, have him disappear for a little while and have him come back as Toma Yukioca, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And have him come back as a grappler and get in there with Ewa, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And get in there with you and get in there with this group, because he's pretty good at that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, you know, and if he throw him in there with a guy like Darren Wolfe and right, and though that's that is sort of all his wheel and Bolton right like that sort of his wheelhouse if he let's it be.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's best match in this tournament was actually when he tried to wrestle with Wolfe a little bit like, you know, and that was about as interesting as he got and that's a little bar to jump over granted, but still, that was not the other person behind.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The fighting spirit prize though went to you know ice who also did something very different in this tournament, which is with the exception of the last match, which was one by hero Kigoto with kind of a great buying roll up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Other than that he suffered knockouts for all of his losses or he won the match, so he was doing something different as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's a breath of prayer.

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[SPEAKER_00]: share and you know I mentioned earlier now he's in a bit of a mini-fewed with Yano and Toghi Makabe that most violent players and as far as I could say in guys I hate to see a father-in-son fight like this but I don't care what they can deny it all they want.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Toghi Makabe is his father.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's got to be.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It has to be.

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[SPEAKER_00]: when he when he was a young one I would say to Jeremy is like you know this guy's got kind of mock-a-bay like tendencies to him a little bit that's dude and now seeing them fight each other I'm like oh my god I like I think they're biological I just do I don't know what to say but that it's well

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[SPEAKER_02]: And that is supported by the fact that Togumocabe is taking more bumps for you to ice than he probably has for anybody else in the little and that's just in like the last three days.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He loves this kid.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, there's something about there's there's a connection there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: If nothing else that Machabe is certainly honoring by by actually giving him some flat back bumps.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And we'll see, you know, they're going to fight, they're going to fight a bunch on this upcoming, this upcoming tour and and and even even in a number one contenders match for the for the tag titles, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: So they're going to be, they're going to mix it up.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Makabe is going to do his one tour year and we'll see, we'll see what that looks like and you know, we'll have to, we'll have to get through it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I'm curious what that looks like, you know, six or seven matches in, but

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[SPEAKER_02]: It is good to see someone from a different generation giving this generation something to work with.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Because all this left really is kind of Zach, Shingo, Goto, and then the guys that are kind of on the customer retirement.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Or retire that remarkable, that those guys, like the shintanachic lander is.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, but, you know, when you look at this and you look at, and you look at their ages and everything like that, it's, we mentioned before the tournament that Schingo was E she E now, you know, he's the guy that has the great match, but puts over the stars, the guys that are supposed to draw the money now, and that that was E she's old job now with Schingo's and I'll, the, go to,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Shengro, Taiichi, those got, they're the dads now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We called the dads for a long time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The tens on Kojima, well, their grandpa's now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Kojima can still work a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Kojima can still work a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then not quite like he was five years ago.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's catching up to him too, both catching up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: it's catching up but yeah so I mean it's there's going to have to be that kind of generational change it's the guys that are in their mid to late 40s that are going to have to carry that load and uh that we're seeing that so it's it's a little it's a little painful for those of us who uh love these guys when they were in there whether in their prime but they are starting to age out of the main event scene and this tournament though putting suji

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[SPEAKER_00]: New Japan's is starting to see it, you know, like we're going to have to put a little Well or not, which has been the issue is that so many stops and starts and these guys tripping over their own shoelaces a key moments and I've just been begging for them to choose a guy and go with and I, you know, I hope you start to see that at least.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Chris you are you have to go really quick.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just want to ask you one quick question for bullet point thoughts and then give us your plugged and get out of here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Jeff Cobb came back and shoot Skywalker is apparently going to be running house of torture.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What are your thoughts on both of these things.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I saw Jeff Cobb coming back from a mile away, even when he even before he showed up in WWE.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was like, well, he's coming back.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, one way or another, I didn't know it was going to be a year later, but I mean, it just like when he left, it felt like he wanted, he didn't want to leave, he felt like he had to leave.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, I rewatch when he got cut from WWE when that news broke.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I went and rewatched his last match, which was with Tonahashi and after it, I mean, like the dude's inconceivable.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, of course, he was coming back and I'm glad he's back.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I really thought the easy play was plug him into the United Empire story and, you know,

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[SPEAKER_02]: somehow you get to, you know, the aspirated newman thing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And they've got a little bit of a civil war thing that's going to happen.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I mean, to for him to just be removed from that completely, maybe that's a bit of a red herring.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, but or maybe just gives him a chance to come in and wrestle in a way that's a little more neutral with his own story.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it seems I thought they were going to have to come back with the entire empire for no other point than which side is he on when they're exactly.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It just felt it felt really easy, but maybe they either have different plants for them or they have no plants for them and they just they have a different plan for the, you know, I did empire thing, but I didn't have any in an unbound company close, okay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's all sensible.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Unbound company is going to end up, you know, I think fracturing off into different things, eventually too.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I, I don't mind the alignment.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And Shune Skywalker, I, I think he's, he's got a lot of potential.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's done a lot in Dragon Gate.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm very good friends with K Slow and Mike Spears who do the Dragon Gate.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Open the,

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[SPEAKER_02]: open the voice gate open the voice gate they did a full career you know drag and gate career kind of retrospective on shoe and they are sort of the they're they're the source for drag anything drag and gate if you want to catch yourself up go find that episode i think it might have been last week on the voices of wrestling network um they just do a fantastic

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[SPEAKER_02]: job covering everything and and and drag gates a company that I've always generally enjoyed I like the the style and and so soon as someone I'm I'm familiar with I do get the sense that he has well I've been told he has bad instincts when it comes to like doing wacky stuff.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So putting him in a house of torture, might be...

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[SPEAKER_02]: Awesome.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Or a perfect man.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, it could go.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It could really go either way.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, my hope, and I don't know anything, and I don't think this will actually end up being true.

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[SPEAKER_02]: My hope is that students guy walker ends up being the first person ever to leave house of torture, because someone has to be.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And it may as well be someone who you hope is around for a while.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But he's a good wrestler.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I do hope.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, I do hope that House of Torture turns a corner here and and we see, you know, shune and rent and some of these guys like actually get in there and mix it up.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And we saw it with Sonata even, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like some of these guys have a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They've got a little bit more to give than they've been allowed to give.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm hopeful that by putting someone like Shune Skywalker at the forefront, we'll have a chance to to see a little bit more of that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: but who knows?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Again, trying not to think too much about how the torture right now, given, you know, circumstantially, they were not a factor towards the tail end of the G1 climax, which is good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's, hilariously, amused that they were so quick to say, yeah, like you've taken over the torture real quick here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I've read it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, someone has to, someone's got to lead.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Somebody's got to lead.

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[SPEAKER_00]: they need a good wrestler in the heavyweight division and they don't have one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They don't have a good worker in the heavyweight division at all.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They've got laziness and injuries and that's what's the house.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're juniors are terrific.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They have terrific juniors, but they have this poor heavyweight.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So hopefully he can bring a little bit there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, correct.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Time for your grand finale.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, and make your head.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you so much for joining us.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm very sorry.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I have to cut it short.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I do appreciate the flexibility.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I know me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I hope to be at your home.

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[SPEAKER_01]: How can I be anything but hospitable return.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Wow.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I appreciate it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, and I, but I appreciate you guys having me on to chat.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't, I don't have anything to plug right now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't have anything going on.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm around.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm in the discord.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm posting.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm talking.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm a little, I'm a little more chatty these days.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like I got a little chip in my shoulder because I, you know, my, my vision of pro wrestling won the G one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You got them and feeling back a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I, yeah, I've got a little bit of swagger, so maybe I'll put some of the together.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I've got the, what if you're the little Tweety Bird, Shaquille and Neil doing the little stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just a little extra.

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[SPEAKER_02]: If you happen to have been the pro wrestling step, but yeah, I don't, I don't have any major plugs.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You can find me at the Chris Sampson social media.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, sport of pro wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_02]: If I'm doing anything major, um, but otherwise, yeah, find me and, and, and I'll be in, in the chats, but yeah, thank you gentlemen.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's good to see you as always.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Be well, Craig.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, well, if a big thanks to Chris Samson for joining us here life, that was very cool, glad he did.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, Jeremy, good to see you by the way, we want to jump right in with Chris, because the limited time right there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think now my headphone jack issue halfway through the show, like, oh, I could have just done that the whole time.

01:00:03.535 --> 01:00:07.118
[SPEAKER_01]: My headphone jack and my sure microphone just was not working.

01:00:07.278 --> 01:00:08.739
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, oh, god, what do I do?

01:00:09.359 --> 01:00:11.660
[SPEAKER_01]: And so I went, I went, I went raw dog on the ear.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then I looked at my headphone jack on my actual laptop.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And my,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Doink, and I'm like, oh, mmm, really could have thought that one through over here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now that's all right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well that's quite all right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So let's take a look.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to get to some of the comments that we've gotten here because we've been again with Chris.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So let's talk to some of the guys here watching live.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He says Nick Reeves.

01:00:32.920 --> 01:00:39.484
[SPEAKER_00]: He says the match, uh, they'll pay off all the preview tags between all we were in New Year throughout the year that never led to a singles match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It wouldn't have hit the same if they'd already run the match at Dominion.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, Dred Zone mentions I absolutely didn't see it coming.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Boy was I happy they pulled it triggered.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This

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[SPEAKER_00]: the year to roll the dice, keep it up in JPW.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We need a post on a hash sheet built.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then after that we have you have you have you have you have you have you have you have you have you have been saying for you really sorry about that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I apologize.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Brett don't have a really awesome screen name.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just want to call it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, it is good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, you're right.

01:01:08.870 --> 01:01:10.891
[SPEAKER_00]: He said, you is the guy, this is from U.S. V.A.

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[SPEAKER_00]: guy, over the years, you notice how everyone in the New Japan office looks at him, he brings so many smiles to everyone while promoting the company.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hopefully, he can continue that trajectory that he was absolutely helped here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Nick Graves just said, I would be floored if Susie wasn't the champion even after January 4th.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think he's going to beat Godo and I do thank you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right now, as I said here, I think he's going to beat OE with a king of pro wrestling and go into that Tokyo dome as the champion.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think, and we'll have to see how it all plays out, but it feels that way to me as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And one more from Dredzone here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I said, I didn't see Call of Winning the New Japan Cup or beating Sushi or in my opinion, Sushi losing so much this year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe OE will win.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It seems to be a year of experimentation.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So there you go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we're here at 99.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So the current champion, but are not losing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think the way that I'm kind of looking at it is in some way, shape or form, they're trying to get half a dozen guys up to the next level, you know, so you have food being a dominant champion, you got that guy potentially the next level.

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[SPEAKER_01]: winning the cup and winning the title, kind of get him up to the next level.

01:02:24.674 --> 01:02:29.939
[SPEAKER_01]: You have, you get where we mirror up, making it to the finals of both the cup and the G1.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Not getting there, but you have some kind of getting to the next level right there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Real, real, real, we were, next level, winning the G1.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, Commander of Lighter, Shota and whoever else that they want to do, but they've got a cadre right here, where

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[SPEAKER_01]: Everybody kind of has something that is giving them a little bit more shine and a little bit more to their like their resume in New Japan, so that when people are looking at them like, oh, their credentials are a little stronger than they were the year before everybody's getting a little something.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Very true.

01:03:03.789 --> 01:03:10.395
[SPEAKER_00]: One other thing, well, not just one of the things and several of the things we're going to we're going to get into the.

01:03:12.572 --> 01:03:18.016
[SPEAKER_00]: Destruction in Kobe, blue justice matches that have been set up by these two days.

01:03:18.476 --> 01:03:23.981
[SPEAKER_00]: We've got a few weeks now, remember, the next event that shows up on NJPW World isn't until September 6th.

01:03:24.141 --> 01:03:26.523
[SPEAKER_00]: There's not even a new Japan event at all.

01:03:26.843 --> 01:03:31.306
[SPEAKER_01]: How's she going to worry about us until we're pushing that stuff to the next week?

01:03:31.326 --> 01:03:33.128
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, because there's a lot more to talk about this week.

01:03:33.148 --> 01:03:34.308
[SPEAKER_01]: So we are going to get to the point.

01:03:34.529 --> 01:03:38.171
[SPEAKER_00]: We're not ignoring all those, but we do want to mention a few other things.

01:03:38.792 --> 01:03:41.374
[SPEAKER_00]: And one of them was 10 signs of retirement, which took place.

01:03:42.538 --> 01:03:46.122
[SPEAKER_00]: Another one, by the way, that I hope we never see again as AI, Antony O'Anoki.

01:03:46.743 --> 01:03:48.164
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, we're getting so much more of that, brother.

01:03:48.425 --> 01:03:50.787
[SPEAKER_00]: We're getting a lot more, it's absolute garbage.

01:03:50.908 --> 01:03:59.898
[SPEAKER_00]: And this just goes to fuel the theories, by the way, that these very mediocre themes that they've come up with lately for wrestlers or AI generated.

01:03:59.918 --> 01:04:02.561
[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't see anything that's turning away from that.

01:04:02.981 --> 01:04:03.221
[SPEAKER_00]: But,

01:04:03.942 --> 01:04:06.283
[SPEAKER_00]: Here's a ten cents retirement was Saturday.

01:04:06.303 --> 01:04:10.885
[SPEAKER_00]: It was actually the show that drew more than the finals did.

01:04:10.965 --> 01:04:18.788
[SPEAKER_00]: So 7,000, there's a rather suspicious number here, 7,777, New Japan plays around with their attendance to folks.

01:04:19.428 --> 01:04:21.429
[SPEAKER_00]: And then that was on Saturday.

01:04:21.449 --> 01:04:24.910
[SPEAKER_00]: It's 7200 on Sunday for the final.

01:04:24.930 --> 01:04:32.753
[SPEAKER_00]: So Jeremy 500 more people interested in seeing the retirement than the finals out here that I say it over and over again, the Japanese love a retirement party.

01:04:33.832 --> 01:04:45.301
[SPEAKER_01]: retirement was good man, uh, and I thought of really interesting and smart that they position the 10 gone retirement on the night where they elevated two guys to go into the finals for the first time.

01:04:45.321 --> 01:04:50.685
[SPEAKER_01]: People are like, oh, these guys are going to be in the gym one final now I might be more interested, you know, I do kind of like, uh,

01:04:51.225 --> 01:04:58.829
[SPEAKER_01]: which to clever kind of dang dang old the the bait before the before the main on trade kind of thing.

01:04:58.909 --> 01:05:02.291
[SPEAKER_01]: And so I really like that little synchronity with that.

01:05:03.991 --> 01:05:05.232
[SPEAKER_01]: I watch 10's on retirement.

01:05:05.572 --> 01:05:07.093
[SPEAKER_01]: It was a very long retirement.

01:05:09.513 --> 01:05:12.916
[SPEAKER_01]: Do you want to break down everything that happened before I share my thoughts?

01:05:13.016 --> 01:05:14.537
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, let's do that.

01:05:14.557 --> 01:05:18.400
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's go over what they did for this because it was quite elaborate.

01:05:18.660 --> 01:05:19.661
[SPEAKER_00]: They really want to out for a while.

01:05:19.681 --> 01:05:33.072
[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no

01:05:38.575 --> 01:05:41.397
[SPEAKER_00]: in first thing he does is throws out the five minute time limit.

01:05:41.417 --> 01:05:42.918
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not going to be a five minute exhibition.

01:05:44.379 --> 01:05:46.061
[SPEAKER_00]: Probably should have kept it that way.

01:05:47.021 --> 01:05:48.943
[SPEAKER_00]: So they wrestled as best they could.

01:05:49.043 --> 01:05:53.126
[SPEAKER_00]: Again, you know, Kojima's is now nobody's getting younger, right?

01:05:53.166 --> 01:05:54.647
[SPEAKER_00]: Kojima's starting to show the effects.

01:05:55.448 --> 01:05:56.829
[SPEAKER_00]: Tenzons body is shot.

01:05:56.969 --> 01:06:05.535
[SPEAKER_00]: One of the reasons that he is retired will be reason he's retiring is that he's infusically incapable of having a normal match anymore or even jogging, let alone running or anything.

01:06:08.767 --> 01:06:18.873
[SPEAKER_00]: But he did a brain buster in this and Jeremy, I don't know, when you looked meant for the brain buster, I was watching a little bit through my fingers there, like, oh, no, hurt yourself, but he got it.

01:06:18.913 --> 01:06:20.393
[SPEAKER_00]: Kojima hit his elbow drop.

01:06:20.774 --> 01:06:22.855
[SPEAKER_00]: He did his Mongolian chops to a big pop.

01:06:23.395 --> 01:06:27.417
[SPEAKER_00]: He did the tens on suplex, although he needed some help getting that up.

01:06:28.258 --> 01:06:32.500
[SPEAKER_00]: As things went on, though, tens on his balance grew more precarious.

01:06:32.920 --> 01:06:37.423
[SPEAKER_00]: And Kojima hit a few areas that did the trick got the pin.

01:06:38.645 --> 01:06:50.878
[SPEAKER_00]: During the retirement ceremony itself, which, as you mentioned, went a long time at the segment of his retirement, we know how an NJPW world, I didn't get there for a second of the week, so that's what you know how long it went.

01:06:52.920 --> 01:06:54.522
[SPEAKER_00]: One hour 37 minutes.

01:06:54.842 --> 01:06:58.727
[SPEAKER_00]: Good morning, so long as the most of a show.

01:06:59.227 --> 01:06:59.447
[SPEAKER_00]: Now,

01:07:00.276 --> 01:07:02.080
[SPEAKER_00]: They brought back the ocean area sushi.

01:07:02.521 --> 01:07:09.357
[SPEAKER_00]: One of the old announcers that has retired from new Japan anyway, they brought him back to announce there are a lot of people that return for it.

01:07:10.806 --> 01:07:16.070
[SPEAKER_00]: But he was having a hard time standing by the end of this.

01:07:16.090 --> 01:07:16.790
[SPEAKER_01]: You're in for him.

01:07:17.251 --> 01:07:19.292
[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, they had to bring in the chairs.

01:07:19.772 --> 01:07:22.614
[SPEAKER_00]: At one point, Machabe and Yano, you can see it happen.

01:07:22.674 --> 01:07:37.325
[SPEAKER_00]: If you go back, looked at each other, set a few words to each other and designated themselves as the people that were going to stay within a stepper two of tens on so that he wouldn't just fall down again because sometimes he would simply lose his balance and fall over.

01:07:37.745 --> 01:07:39.766
[SPEAKER_00]: His body is just destroyed and fortunate.

01:07:41.110 --> 01:07:44.772
[SPEAKER_01]: the example that I said that you look at him in this match.

01:07:45.573 --> 01:07:51.757
[SPEAKER_01]: His left angle is perpetually bent and a like 55 degree angle.

01:07:51.937 --> 01:07:52.937
[SPEAKER_00]: That's a kind of grotesque.

01:07:54.218 --> 01:07:55.319
[SPEAKER_00]: We wanted to always be walking.

01:07:55.799 --> 01:08:03.504
[SPEAKER_01]: He figured out how to walk on this, but then he's doing like power moves and like it just

01:08:05.211 --> 01:08:22.649
[SPEAKER_01]: It's hard to watch, man, and, you know, we talked about the longevity of these wrestlers and claimed these retirement from watching them all like completely beaten and destroyed their bodies and you just, you hope that some of the matches and the way that they're like structuring their careers now, they're not going to be.

01:08:24.057 --> 01:08:44.484
[SPEAKER_01]: the ton of hot sheets and the tens on with the just right needs and the throwing mains in the backs and and all this stuff that's the real concern of my complicity and watching wrestling sometimes because you know I'm participating in these people just absolutely destroying their bodies and that that really is like my biggest conflict about

01:08:52.056 --> 01:08:58.881
[SPEAKER_01]: I think I am because they're chasing something that I don't understand while I'm appreciated something that I could see that they do in the ring.

01:09:00.182 --> 01:09:00.582
[SPEAKER_00]: Fair enough.

01:09:00.722 --> 01:09:01.623
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's what's said.

01:09:02.721 --> 01:09:14.845
[SPEAKER_00]: So afterwards now, this is the point when all the dignitaries come and say a few words and shake his hand and give him the bouquets of flowers and but however before we get all that going to Kashi is returned and attacked afterwards the man.

01:09:23.154 --> 01:09:37.718
[SPEAKER_00]: And when Isica got to the ring, he's, you know, doing the whole thing where he's office office chain, literally Tahichi, remember, if you go back away, it's Tahichi guy that would lead him around by a chain around his neck like he's on a leash or something like that.

01:09:38.079 --> 01:09:38.779
[SPEAKER_00]: He's the madman.

01:09:38.819 --> 01:09:40.239
[SPEAKER_00]: So he's got the iron fingers.

01:09:40.299 --> 01:09:41.299
[SPEAKER_00]: He's got all this stuff.

01:09:41.360 --> 01:09:49.122
[SPEAKER_00]: And he's going around ring side terrorizing the announcers and tens on for years has been trying to talk some sense into his old friend.

01:09:49.882 --> 01:09:53.923
[SPEAKER_00]: And of the night of Tenzons retirement, it actually worked.

01:09:54.383 --> 01:09:58.125
[SPEAKER_00]: Iska got in the ring, and he was conflicted.

01:09:58.185 --> 01:09:58.845
[SPEAKER_00]: It was difficult.

01:09:58.885 --> 01:10:00.585
[SPEAKER_00]: He was trying to calm the savage beast.

01:10:00.625 --> 01:10:02.726
[SPEAKER_00]: But in the end, they shook hands and hugged.

01:10:03.226 --> 01:10:09.948
[SPEAKER_00]: And Jeremy, of all the goofy things, this got a big pop because it was actually was years in the making.

01:10:10.048 --> 01:10:12.909
[SPEAKER_00]: They have tried to do this for a long time.

01:10:13.229 --> 01:10:14.950
[SPEAKER_00]: They did what I think, what, during.

01:10:15.570 --> 01:10:24.052
[SPEAKER_00]: Nishimura's retirement, and they did it during a couple other people's ceremonies where Isga would come back and Tenson would try to talk sensed to him and it would never quite work.

01:10:24.352 --> 01:10:25.993
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it did for Tenson's retirement.

01:10:26.693 --> 01:10:35.055
[SPEAKER_00]: So many knots to Tenson through these two days, by the way, with things that were going on in the ring, we will war the Tenson horns to the finals match.

01:10:35.675 --> 01:10:38.377
[SPEAKER_00]: and said some words to him after the finals as well.

01:10:38.397 --> 01:10:39.958
[SPEAKER_00]: That was the next day that hadn't happened.

01:10:39.998 --> 01:10:51.026
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think an absolute mess after that final of watching him like openly weeping is if he had seen a master piece, which he had, but the master people's in honor of him.

01:10:51.347 --> 01:10:51.487
[SPEAKER_01]: And he

01:10:56.847 --> 01:11:00.569
[SPEAKER_00]: A lot of guys did the 10s on suplex, the 10s on piled driver.

01:11:00.609 --> 01:11:02.890
[SPEAKER_00]: He did both of those moves differently than everybody else.

01:11:02.950 --> 01:11:08.793
[SPEAKER_00]: He did Mongolian shops, of course, a bunch of that is a bunch of that happened.

01:11:08.833 --> 01:11:09.073
[SPEAKER_00]: So.

01:11:10.188 --> 01:11:20.656
[SPEAKER_00]: Here's a list of the people, I'll just go over to here of, it's an incredible list of people that came to pay their respects to Tenzons career, Eugene Negato, of course, right?

01:11:20.856 --> 01:11:28.442
[SPEAKER_00]: He and Kojima and Jesus, Kojikana Motoh, who appeared via video all part of that class at the same time.

01:11:29.642 --> 01:11:32.224
[SPEAKER_00]: Tana Hashie, of course, he was there, the president.

01:11:32.625 --> 01:11:36.828
[SPEAKER_00]: There were professional baseball players that paid their respects.

01:11:38.441 --> 01:11:43.544
[SPEAKER_00]: Kakihara from UWFI came in, Kendo Kashin, who's still wrestling, incredibly.

01:11:43.584 --> 01:11:50.068
[SPEAKER_00]: Kendo Kashin, Junaki Yama from Noah and all of Japan, Hiroshi Hase, who's a politician.

01:11:50.108 --> 01:11:53.329
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, sort of the equivalent of almost a governor.

01:11:54.887 --> 01:11:59.969
[SPEAKER_00]: Casey Moodo, Ricky Choshu for getting to say, so it still has one of the greatest themes in wrestling.

01:12:00.309 --> 01:12:01.349
[SPEAKER_00]: That's the only food genami.

01:12:01.369 --> 01:12:02.110
[SPEAKER_00]: The dragon was there.

01:12:02.150 --> 01:12:11.313
[SPEAKER_00]: And of course, Masa Chono, and they had a lot of very nice things to say to him, but it was a long ceremony, but I didn't mind.

01:12:12.953 --> 01:12:13.873
[SPEAKER_00]: Again, we've talked about it.

01:12:13.893 --> 01:12:20.256
[SPEAKER_00]: You see the impact this guy has had on young wrestlers and generations and generations of guys and seeing all these legends.

01:12:20.876 --> 01:12:26.018
[SPEAKER_00]: And all these young people paying their respects to tens on just shows you the impact the man had in 36 years in wrestling.

01:12:28.239 --> 01:12:38.463
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if I truly appreciated his impact until the last couple of years because I really came in after his prime years in a lot of ways.

01:12:43.200 --> 01:12:51.122
[SPEAKER_01]: but you can see it like 90 plus minutes of continual just, I appreciate you.

01:12:51.242 --> 01:12:52.082
[SPEAKER_01]: I appreciate you.

01:12:52.182 --> 01:12:58.464
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you, like you've come so far and the sellout crowd, right?

01:12:58.864 --> 01:13:00.924
[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, like that's what it was.

01:13:00.984 --> 01:13:06.425
[SPEAKER_01]: It was sold on retirement, like, you're there for 10th on retirement, but you're getting the G1 to set my finals.

01:13:06.846 --> 01:13:09.306
[SPEAKER_01]: Like I think everyone knew that that

01:13:13.567 --> 01:13:19.773
[SPEAKER_01]: And it wasn't the Tana Hashu retirement, but it didn't need to be, you know, didn't need to be in front of 50,000 people.

01:13:20.273 --> 01:13:25.297
[SPEAKER_01]: This was this felt perfect and authentic for him.

01:13:25.437 --> 01:13:28.200
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm glad that he got this experience.

01:13:29.481 --> 01:13:29.721
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:13:29.901 --> 01:13:30.922
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't know.

01:13:30.962 --> 01:13:34.065
[SPEAKER_01]: You've got me, no got me losing it shirt as a matter of hand.

01:13:34.105 --> 01:13:35.486
[SPEAKER_01]: It was like something to change.

01:13:36.177 --> 01:13:52.631
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, for the, for the podcast listeners, U.S. VA, guy mentioned that he's an, and he's like a fan, and he left hard when, no Gami, one of the New Japan announcers who always got attacked by his, a tried to shake his hand after tens on had shaken his hand and hugged him, based on the Gami shirt off.

01:13:52.651 --> 01:13:54.333
[SPEAKER_00]: So that some things don't change.

01:13:54.353 --> 01:13:56.274
[SPEAKER_00]: She, we couldn't quite tame him completely.

01:13:56.334 --> 01:13:56.855
[SPEAKER_01]: Run it back.

01:13:57.195 --> 01:13:58.516
[SPEAKER_00]: And, yeah.

01:13:59.777 --> 01:14:04.538
[SPEAKER_00]: But it was a very moving ceremony, and that was Hero Chitenzon.

01:14:04.878 --> 01:14:05.859
[SPEAKER_00]: On that week.

01:14:05.879 --> 01:14:10.000
[SPEAKER_00]: So we also mentioned that Shun Sky Walker is now part of New Japan pro wrestling.

01:14:11.120 --> 01:14:14.501
[SPEAKER_00]: Again, we're going to talk about some of the matches that have been set up, but we'll get to that here.

01:14:14.581 --> 01:14:21.223
[SPEAKER_00]: Shun Sky Walker, a big time star for Dragon Gate for years, and years, and years, now a member of House of Torscher.

01:14:21.243 --> 01:14:22.823
[SPEAKER_00]: He is a tack canoscate to Keshta.

01:14:23.263 --> 01:14:27.345
[SPEAKER_00]: He will be getting a TV title match in Kobe, of course, Kobe,

01:14:30.082 --> 01:14:32.503
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, Dragon's Gate is based in Kobe.

01:14:32.543 --> 01:14:35.983
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that's their home, that is the promotion space.

01:14:36.603 --> 01:14:38.064
[SPEAKER_00]: There's a reason that's happening now.

01:14:38.104 --> 01:14:39.584
[SPEAKER_00]: There's a reason that's happening here.

01:14:40.584 --> 01:14:44.145
[SPEAKER_00]: To catch, we love to catch these a fantastic wrestler.

01:14:44.165 --> 01:14:45.345
[SPEAKER_00]: He's not a full-time guy.

01:14:45.925 --> 01:14:47.886
[SPEAKER_00]: It seems like the right time to do it.

01:14:48.306 --> 01:14:52.427
[SPEAKER_00]: Some things about Schoen, though Jeremy, I wanted to mention out here.

01:14:54.770 --> 01:14:59.212
[SPEAKER_00]: He has done everything you can possibly do in Dragon's Gate.

01:14:59.532 --> 01:15:01.873
[SPEAKER_00]: Started there in 2016, so it's been 10 years.

01:15:02.314 --> 01:15:06.356
[SPEAKER_00]: He had a little bit of an excursion to Mexico, working for IWRG.

01:15:07.136 --> 01:15:10.197
[SPEAKER_00]: And but he was always part of the Dragon Gate Mix.

01:15:10.377 --> 01:15:20.762
[SPEAKER_00]: He has won the Dream Gate Championship three times, twin gate championship, taking title one time with Diomonte, the trio's title four times.

01:15:25.515 --> 01:15:27.118
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, rookie of the year, rookie ranking tournament.

01:15:28.200 --> 01:15:29.222
[SPEAKER_00]: He's worked everybody there.

01:15:29.903 --> 01:15:33.349
[SPEAKER_00]: He's been on both sides of the vents as far as the baby face.

01:15:33.369 --> 01:15:36.435
[SPEAKER_00]: He'll stuff goes in the various rivalries and dragons gate.

01:15:37.984 --> 01:15:48.891
[SPEAKER_00]: It reminds me a little bit of shingo Jeremy is that there's only so long you can stay there and then you get a little bored with it and there are some people that have said that that shune gets a little crazy like Chris Samson mentioned.

01:15:49.971 --> 01:15:54.954
[SPEAKER_00]: There's some folks that maybe he think he hasn't been as interested in the last couple of years, but.

01:15:56.255 --> 01:16:02.716
[SPEAKER_00]: Geez, when you see the same guys over and over again for 10 years, it can get a little listless and it can get a little difficult to keep your focus.

01:16:02.956 --> 01:16:05.197
[SPEAKER_00]: And maybe the change of scenery is just what he needs.

01:16:05.617 --> 01:16:11.938
[SPEAKER_00]: And like we mentioned, he is a good worker when he wants to work and how situation really needs a good worker in the heavyweight division.

01:16:11.998 --> 01:16:13.338
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm looking forward to it.

01:16:13.358 --> 01:16:16.499
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think to Keshe does the kind of guy who can make him look really good.

01:16:18.219 --> 01:16:21.600
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to take something about to Keshe to the first before I get to Schumstead Walker.

01:16:21.960 --> 01:16:22.200
[SPEAKER_00]: Sure.

01:16:23.975 --> 01:16:31.484
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think it's completely out on the question and a spicy hot take that he doesn't need to be on rest looking at this here.

01:16:31.564 --> 01:16:35.028
[SPEAKER_01]: I think the roster and each fan, it's a question that doesn't need to be on this.

01:16:35.929 --> 01:16:37.591
[SPEAKER_01]: Right, we don't need to have on that card.

01:16:38.011 --> 01:16:40.354
[SPEAKER_01]: Like I think the roster is strong enough without him this here,

01:16:42.089 --> 01:16:43.430
[SPEAKER_01]: You could be here by without them.

01:16:43.730 --> 01:16:44.151
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

01:16:44.491 --> 01:17:05.509
[SPEAKER_01]: I was thinking about that when you were talking about she was a scoutwalker coming in and just knock out brothers and all these other guys that they've elevated up to a certain level and kind of like, hmm, you know, I'm sure you can find it's possible to guess you're on the upper midcard of these nine mattress or so, but there's a lot of mouth to feed and there's a lot of people that, you know, have worked really hard in each fan.

01:17:05.549 --> 01:17:08.352
[SPEAKER_01]: So that for that notwithstanding,

01:17:09.852 --> 01:17:12.414
[SPEAKER_01]: Ships guy walker a lot of charisma.

01:17:13.515 --> 01:17:16.858
[SPEAKER_01]: He immediately elevate the house of torture with his presence.

01:17:17.819 --> 01:17:21.463
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't like when I was watching him like, oh, you're the leader.

01:17:21.883 --> 01:17:24.625
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, you've taken over and done.

01:17:27.933 --> 01:17:29.814
[SPEAKER_01]: They're doing what you said, whatever.

01:17:29.934 --> 01:17:31.815
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I'm all in on this.

01:17:32.235 --> 01:17:33.595
[SPEAKER_01]: He has that poison.

01:17:33.615 --> 01:17:39.938
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, they've got that creepy lizard dragon kind of scaly black mesh all over his body.

01:17:40.638 --> 01:17:44.939
[SPEAKER_01]: It's different than evil, but I get the same energy.

01:17:45.680 --> 01:17:48.201
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, like, I really do.

01:17:48.241 --> 01:17:51.962
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, if you're working 10 years in dragon gate, you can go.

01:17:52.882 --> 01:17:56.583
[SPEAKER_01]: and they need a guy that can go, that can just be a bad guy.

01:17:57.103 --> 01:17:58.583
[SPEAKER_01]: Because right now they don't have any bad guys.

01:17:59.444 --> 01:18:01.264
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, Kyle Newman is a bad guy.

01:18:01.784 --> 01:18:12.927
[SPEAKER_01]: But I don't feel like he's, I feel like they need a Japanese bad guy, like a Japanese human, like an authentically Japanese human.

01:18:13.887 --> 01:18:16.268
[SPEAKER_01]: And Shinuka Walker can 100% be that tall

01:18:22.790 --> 01:18:24.351
[SPEAKER_00]: We mentioned earlier Jeff Cobb is back.

01:18:24.391 --> 01:18:25.611
[SPEAKER_00]: He's returned to the promotion.

01:18:25.651 --> 01:18:26.871
[SPEAKER_00]: He's with unbound company.

01:18:26.931 --> 01:18:32.353
[SPEAKER_00]: They did an angle here where Kalim Numan and Dike and a guy were tangling.

01:18:32.513 --> 01:18:34.874
[SPEAKER_00]: And those two by the way are fantastic together.

01:18:34.994 --> 01:18:42.237
[SPEAKER_00]: Anytime you see them on opposite ends of a trio's match or anything, make sure you pay attention because when they're in the ring together, they really match well.

01:18:42.917 --> 01:18:46.618
[SPEAKER_00]: And the guy, he can do that kind of a, I don't even know how to explain it.

01:18:46.658 --> 01:18:51.420
[SPEAKER_00]: That pop-up DDT off of Kalim Numan that looks amazing every time he does it.

01:18:52.647 --> 01:19:03.815
[SPEAKER_00]: Afterwards, we got into some AEW level amateur stuff here where he pulled out a sword and put it to dieking a guy's neck.

01:19:04.375 --> 01:19:12.421
[SPEAKER_00]: And I know we see attempted murders every week on Dynamite and then they just say, Oh, well, here's the guy that almost was murdered his wife to do a comedy skit.

01:19:12.461 --> 01:19:12.661
[SPEAKER_00]: And it,

01:19:14.202 --> 01:19:19.726
[SPEAKER_00]: It's astinine, it's stupid, but so he takes out a sword, like he's going to cut his head off or something like that.

01:19:19.766 --> 01:19:20.566
[SPEAKER_00]: It believes his shit.

01:19:21.067 --> 01:19:26.470
[SPEAKER_00]: And so Ghetto comes in the ring and walks up on a guy who has a sword and just starts trash talking him.

01:19:26.570 --> 01:19:29.833
[SPEAKER_00]: So obviously, he didn't take it seriously either so I should wait, it was stupid.

01:19:30.664 --> 01:19:32.985
[SPEAKER_00]: thing is he just says, well, you need an attitude adjustment.

01:19:33.005 --> 01:19:35.267
[SPEAKER_00]: You could have done this a hundred different ways, a lot of dumb ass sort.

01:19:35.847 --> 01:19:38.769
[SPEAKER_00]: And he just says, you need an attitude adjustment.

01:19:38.789 --> 01:19:42.231
[SPEAKER_00]: I got a guy who can adjust your attitude and Jeff Cobb comes running out.

01:19:42.291 --> 01:19:51.937
[SPEAKER_00]: Got to say the production of New Japan did a very nice job of cutting away before Jeff Cobb came all the way up the aisle and then shooting the floor and then just scanning up

01:19:52.317 --> 01:19:57.864
[SPEAKER_00]: Cobb's body to just show that this mountain of a human being coming down there to confront Calum Newman.

01:19:57.884 --> 01:20:04.833
[SPEAKER_00]: So Jeff Cobb's back at a couple of comments we got about that big man dogs brings up an interesting point here, Jeremy, though, as far as putting him in the United Empire.

01:20:04.853 --> 01:20:09.980
[SPEAKER_00]: He says, maybe they figured they just figured Cobb would be cheered coming back, so just put him with the group that's beeping with them.

01:20:10.560 --> 01:20:14.064
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe they just thought, well, he can't be booed, you know, they're going to be so happy to see him.

01:20:14.104 --> 01:20:17.948
[SPEAKER_00]: That's that's that's that's a point that could that could be part of the thought process there.

01:20:18.288 --> 01:20:22.373
[SPEAKER_00]: I just figured they would do the thing where he would end up with whoever the good guy is coming out of it.

01:20:23.044 --> 01:20:25.625
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, whether it's Newman, Osprey, I'm assuming Osprey.

01:20:25.665 --> 01:20:27.145
[SPEAKER_00]: But they decided not to do that.

01:20:27.185 --> 01:20:28.466
[SPEAKER_00]: Just bring him into unbound company.

01:20:28.506 --> 01:20:29.126
[SPEAKER_00]: And we're here.

01:20:29.146 --> 01:20:31.286
[SPEAKER_00]: Us is unbound company is the new chaos.

01:20:32.087 --> 01:20:39.209
[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, I think it is in that they're the big man, dogs like Hontai, the cool.

01:20:39.489 --> 01:20:44.871
[SPEAKER_00]: Where's Hontai is very much the goody two shoes of the company, right?

01:20:44.891 --> 01:20:46.271
[SPEAKER_00]: These are the terrible answers.

01:20:47.758 --> 01:20:55.405
[SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, Kay, I said a little bit of an edge to it, and I'm bound company has a little bit of an edge to it with you to ice and some of the other guys there.

01:20:55.465 --> 01:20:58.068
[SPEAKER_00]: So that that that's a fair assessment.

01:20:58.088 --> 01:21:02.932
[SPEAKER_00]: I would say I'm bound company picking up Jeff Cobb as a heavyweight in that.

01:21:09.854 --> 01:21:14.116
[SPEAKER_01]: There is something to the story because when he left, Callum Newman took his title shot.

01:21:14.196 --> 01:21:18.278
[SPEAKER_01]: Like he was given his title shot, whatever you want to say.

01:21:18.658 --> 01:21:26.521
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm sure more framed in the, like, what you've turned United Empire into, everyone is like, bowing to you.

01:21:26.601 --> 01:21:28.262
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's not what this was.

01:21:28.282 --> 01:21:32.464
[SPEAKER_01]: I would generally don't know who you have to go over in this match.

01:21:32.504 --> 01:21:35.245
[SPEAKER_01]: I kind of think it's Newman, but do you really want Kabul?

01:21:35.265 --> 01:21:36.666
[SPEAKER_01]: Do you think on his first match back?

01:21:38.526 --> 01:21:50.769
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's like that is something I thought of also, but I think they will, I think that's basically Well, I don't know why you would beat Newman because I feel like if they can get Newman and Osprey

01:21:51.943 --> 01:21:53.704
[SPEAKER_00]: than they should.

01:21:54.344 --> 01:21:56.885
[SPEAKER_00]: And that means you have to keep Newman really strong.

01:21:58.065 --> 01:21:59.986
[SPEAKER_00]: I agree with Chris what we were talking about earlier.

01:22:00.086 --> 01:22:05.548
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a little clunky to have both moxley and Osprey in to wrestle against showed it.

01:22:05.728 --> 01:22:07.369
[SPEAKER_00]: We feel like that's the destination, right?

01:22:07.409 --> 01:22:08.870
[SPEAKER_00]: Showed it in moxley Sunday.

01:22:08.890 --> 01:22:09.530
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, absolutely.

01:22:10.924 --> 01:22:13.627
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, maybe they don't do Moxley there.

01:22:13.647 --> 01:22:17.090
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe it's kid, you know, I've been talking about how I think the town of Hoshie.

01:22:17.110 --> 01:22:26.861
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, if they can get Moxley then they want town of Hoshie to come out and, uh, out of retirement just to sell tickets because I think they're, I think they're freaking out a little bit about the ticket sales.

01:22:27.322 --> 01:22:28.343
[SPEAKER_00]: One other thing about the ticket sales.

01:22:30.102 --> 01:22:31.844
[SPEAKER_00]: They said these shows were sold out.

01:22:31.924 --> 01:22:35.468
[SPEAKER_00]: Now let's kind of sort of, okay, kind of sort of.

01:22:36.189 --> 01:22:37.390
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, first of all, Sunday wasn't.

01:22:37.410 --> 01:22:38.771
[SPEAKER_00]: There were still tickets available for Sunday.

01:22:38.791 --> 01:22:40.774
[SPEAKER_00]: They had 500 fewer people in the night before.

01:22:40.834 --> 01:22:42.075
[SPEAKER_00]: It's still a good crowd.

01:22:42.095 --> 01:22:43.717
[SPEAKER_00]: 7,200 is an excellent crowd.

01:22:44.117 --> 01:22:44.958
[SPEAKER_00]: First time, that's it.

01:22:45.779 --> 01:22:46.820
[SPEAKER_00]: Sumo Hall holds 11,000.

01:22:48.307 --> 01:23:02.057
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, you look at it though, but there were people in the upper deck, so where is it, it's the box seats, it's the box seats, because New Japan was selling a lot of those box seats at two per box, two people per box, and that's what startup is doing for dream quantum.

01:23:02.978 --> 01:23:11.130
[SPEAKER_00]: when you go when you watch Sumo and when you see things like the old 1990s G1 when everything was sold out all the time.

01:23:11.170 --> 01:23:12.812
[SPEAKER_00]: I've talked about how hot that period was.

01:23:12.852 --> 01:23:19.361
[SPEAKER_00]: Jeremy were they were doing baseball park shows outside of Tokyo and multiple dome shows and real Goku was always packed.

01:23:19.822 --> 01:23:24.188
[SPEAKER_00]: They were crammed in four to a box, just like they do during the sumo tournaments.

01:23:24.589 --> 01:23:27.473
[SPEAKER_00]: That gets the, that gets the attendance up to 11,000.

01:23:27.873 --> 01:23:31.699
[SPEAKER_00]: If you have two per box in some of the sections, if you can sell four, sell four, right?

01:23:32.220 --> 01:23:33.662
[SPEAKER_00]: But they can also kind of,

01:23:34.747 --> 01:23:39.828
[SPEAKER_00]: keep the tickets a little bit scarce and still have a strong crowd by by doing two per box.

01:23:39.848 --> 01:23:46.129
[SPEAKER_00]: So you could play with it in a way so that it's still full, but not as full as it could be.

01:23:46.169 --> 01:23:52.031
[SPEAKER_00]: That type of thing without they're being empty seats kind of a clever little trick there to use for a sumo haul.

01:23:52.071 --> 01:23:53.371
[SPEAKER_00]: That's unique to sumo haul.

01:23:54.891 --> 01:23:56.612
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think even Eddie on Arena has that.

01:23:56.632 --> 01:23:58.552
[SPEAKER_00]: I think they just have permanent seats and things.

01:23:58.592 --> 01:23:59.172
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's something

01:24:04.073 --> 01:24:06.260
[SPEAKER_00]: They can start opening up more forward to a box sections.

01:24:07.282 --> 01:24:11.485
[SPEAKER_00]: And they can ease their way into it, instead of having a half empty building for instance.

01:24:11.705 --> 01:24:14.146
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's a sewer halls a little pliable with that, it helps.

01:24:14.627 --> 01:24:21.231
[SPEAKER_00]: I was really happy, and then the other way they disguised it in the past is they've had elaborate sets for the entrances, which blocks off chunks.

01:24:21.971 --> 01:24:24.633
[SPEAKER_00]: So it still looks full, but there are fewer people, right?

01:24:24.653 --> 01:24:25.614
[SPEAKER_00]: But they didn't have to do that.

01:24:25.694 --> 01:24:27.815
[SPEAKER_00]: They could just use the whole floor, and they just had the aisle.

01:24:28.295 --> 01:24:29.496
[SPEAKER_00]: The old school aisle right there.

01:24:29.536 --> 01:24:33.518
[SPEAKER_00]: So again, one of the best G1s, would you want's attendance?

01:24:36.040 --> 01:24:36.300
[SPEAKER_00]: Good.

01:24:36.340 --> 01:24:38.943
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I also one of the best G1s, post-pandemic.

01:24:39.403 --> 01:24:39.804
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.

01:24:39.884 --> 01:24:41.846
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, probably the best one, right?

01:24:41.886 --> 01:24:43.467
[SPEAKER_00]: I can't.

01:24:44.028 --> 01:24:45.069
[SPEAKER_01]: Two thumb up, man.

01:24:45.229 --> 01:24:46.891
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, this is the benchmark.

01:24:46.911 --> 01:24:50.074
[SPEAKER_01]: I think we'll be considering we'll be comparing a lot of G1s going forward.

01:24:50.454 --> 01:24:54.458
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, if no longer going to be like comparing it to 2019 and if really comparing it to this.

01:24:54.838 --> 01:24:55.539
[SPEAKER_00]: Certainly the final.

01:24:55.819 --> 01:24:57.181
[SPEAKER_00]: The final is going to be tough on to be.

01:24:57.281 --> 01:24:58.362
[SPEAKER_00]: You're going to have tough on the top.

01:24:58.962 --> 01:25:01.045
[SPEAKER_00]: We have a new young one, Jeremy.

01:25:01.145 --> 01:25:02.446
[SPEAKER_00]: We got a new young man coming out.

01:25:02.526 --> 01:25:03.928
[SPEAKER_00]: It says you should have a Zawa.

01:25:03.968 --> 01:25:05.810
[SPEAKER_00]: He is without a doubt a heavyweight.

01:25:05.830 --> 01:25:13.297
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, sometimes we're not sure even tensed on was a junior when he first came up, which he's crazy that giant head on a thin body.

01:25:14.523 --> 01:25:20.147
[SPEAKER_00]: but this dude is a college sumo, so he was in sumo wrestling before.

01:25:20.987 --> 01:25:27.091
[SPEAKER_00]: So a pretty big dude and he's about six feet taller so and maybe a little bit above that they'll probably say he's above that.

01:25:27.631 --> 01:25:32.534
[SPEAKER_00]: But if if if if I did my centimeter or two inches and feet conversions he's about six feet tall.

01:25:33.115 --> 01:25:38.458
[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, there is Yuchen Hatazawa and we will see him against Matsumoto on September 9th

01:25:41.460 --> 01:25:55.850
[SPEAKER_00]: So I got a thing, Jeremy, that at some point, Massatory Yasada, who is the young line with the most in your body, will be moving on to whatever is next for him, whether it is joining a faction like Jose Fujer or...

01:25:55.870 --> 01:25:58.131
[SPEAKER_00]: Sorry.

01:25:58.232 --> 01:26:02.895
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe that could be, I still think, I don't know what you're supposed to do with that.

01:26:05.062 --> 01:26:13.132
[SPEAKER_00]: Or is he going off an excursion, you know, I noticed this, Jeremy, I want to know if you did post match comments during the entire G1, very abrupt.

01:26:14.024 --> 01:26:18.368
[SPEAKER_00]: Like short, like 20 minutes long, and not everybody, like we're used to saying in there.

01:26:18.428 --> 01:26:23.292
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't remember he asked it as saying much, you know, a lot of these post-match comments.

01:26:23.332 --> 01:26:28.597
[SPEAKER_00]: It's almost everybody on the card and sometimes they could go an hour and all that stuff.

01:26:28.637 --> 01:26:32.761
[SPEAKER_00]: But during most of G1, you didn't hear from most of the end of the card.

01:26:32.801 --> 01:26:36.484
[SPEAKER_00]: So, Shoma Kato, the reason I'm bringing this up.

01:26:39.123 --> 01:26:52.714
[SPEAKER_00]: Utah, Nakashima, before he was Utah ice and all that, they talked openly about what they were going to do in those comments sections, for their Schoemakato campaigned for CMLL in his post-match comments.

01:26:53.214 --> 01:26:58.879
[SPEAKER_00]: We do hear from Nagai, we still hear from Matsumoto Ola, he's pretty good talker too, by the way.

01:26:59.680 --> 01:27:03.383
[SPEAKER_00]: And about their journeys, and we haven't heard a lot from me as of this.

01:27:04.023 --> 01:27:09.025
[SPEAKER_00]: We don't know, but this is about the time, about two years into your career, to go off.

01:27:09.125 --> 01:27:12.607
[SPEAKER_00]: But we haven't heard of you about anything that you asked what it might be doing.

01:27:13.147 --> 01:27:30.235
[SPEAKER_01]: I haven't heard of any excursions of Shoma Kato taking off, and it seems like they're positioning him for some kind of house of torturing a adjacent position when he comes back with him being kind of, well, definitely heelish, but

01:27:31.658 --> 01:27:37.104
[SPEAKER_01]: a devilish, you know, like, just kind of a, a myth-crant kind of way.

01:27:37.364 --> 01:27:40.027
[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't know.

01:27:40.047 --> 01:27:48.776
[SPEAKER_01]: I also don't know what the company's mentality is about these excursions now that there are a new ownership.

01:27:49.397 --> 01:27:49.597
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

01:27:50.687 --> 01:27:52.209
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, that's the factor as well, isn't it?

01:27:52.349 --> 01:27:58.536
[SPEAKER_00]: And the Bushy Road ownership kept the excursion system with some tweaks.

01:27:58.596 --> 01:28:01.659
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, we just went across the street to start working for Noah.

01:28:03.450 --> 01:28:05.151
[SPEAKER_00]: There's, that's an interesting possibility.

01:28:05.171 --> 01:28:10.393
[SPEAKER_00]: It's just twin brother working for Noah, you know, that is twin brothers in a nighto's group over with Noah.

01:28:10.953 --> 01:28:14.114
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's intriguing as far as something for yesterday to do.

01:28:14.234 --> 01:28:17.796
[SPEAKER_01]: If you want to do it, I don't think they would do that, but I would be amused.

01:28:18.876 --> 01:28:19.436
[SPEAKER_00]: I'd watch it.

01:28:20.217 --> 01:28:22.178
[SPEAKER_01]: I would, I would definitely be interested.

01:28:22.698 --> 01:28:22.938
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:28:23.618 --> 01:28:27.300
[SPEAKER_01]: I just feel like that would be a few that they don't want to blow or even do.

01:28:27.640 --> 01:28:29.340
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I know, I know, yeah.

01:28:29.441 --> 01:28:30.441
[SPEAKER_01]: Like they're like,

01:28:31.157 --> 01:28:36.163
[SPEAKER_00]: You can make a team and then have them split, I guess, at some point, blah, blah, blah, I work, we're just supposing things.

01:28:36.564 --> 01:28:37.445
[SPEAKER_00]: We don't know what he's doing.

01:28:37.765 --> 01:28:40.088
[SPEAKER_01]: And I had it all about it up to this exact moment.

01:28:40.969 --> 01:28:46.756
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, that's the other point I had to make about yes is the most we were going to talk about yes is two years.

01:28:48.137 --> 01:28:50.040
[SPEAKER_00]: He really had to make that much of an impression on me.

01:28:50.779 --> 01:28:53.862
[SPEAKER_00]: But I don't really know what his personality is.

01:28:54.143 --> 01:28:57.906
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what's going to happen sometime because he's got fire, but that's about it.

01:28:58.627 --> 01:28:59.568
[SPEAKER_00]: He's not a bad wrestler.

01:28:59.588 --> 01:29:02.731
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not going to say that he has no potential, but I don't know who he is.

01:29:02.972 --> 01:29:03.933
[SPEAKER_00]: I know who the guy is.

01:29:04.613 --> 01:29:05.815
[SPEAKER_00]: I know who Matt's motto is.

01:29:06.215 --> 01:29:09.696
[SPEAKER_00]: who came along much later than yesterday, I know Matsumoto's personality.

01:29:10.036 --> 01:29:11.357
[SPEAKER_00]: I know the guy's personality.

01:29:12.517 --> 01:29:14.738
[SPEAKER_00]: Tai saying Akahara is starting to show a little bit of why.

01:29:14.758 --> 01:29:15.878
[SPEAKER_00]: I just, I don't know who Yasuo that is.

01:29:15.898 --> 01:29:19.800
[SPEAKER_00]: He needs to, he needs to, he needs to, he needs to, he needs to, he needs to, he needs to, he needs to, he needs to character somewhere.

01:29:19.820 --> 01:29:23.701
[SPEAKER_00]: Bill, and I don't mean characters and being a good person, but he needs to build a pro wrestling.

01:29:24.602 --> 01:29:28.523
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, he has to create an identify the identity that the audience can react to.

01:29:30.084 --> 01:29:33.687
[SPEAKER_00]: And they just sent somebody over to England and to Europe.

01:29:33.767 --> 01:29:37.970
[SPEAKER_00]: So, and then Shoma Cato is in CMLL.

01:29:38.610 --> 01:29:41.312
[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, where does he go if he does go someplace?

01:29:41.392 --> 01:29:43.054
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I don't think he wanted you to be a person out.

01:29:43.074 --> 01:29:43.994
[SPEAKER_01]: They fundraated you.

01:29:45.455 --> 01:29:46.496
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, maybe so.

01:29:48.057 --> 01:29:49.799
[SPEAKER_01]: I just wanted to be a reaction with Peter that.

01:29:50.798 --> 01:29:53.360
[SPEAKER_00]: I, boy, there's a lot of bad habits to pick up.

01:29:53.420 --> 01:29:55.782
[SPEAKER_00]: They need to be the least guys to have.

01:29:55.882 --> 01:29:59.184
[SPEAKER_01]: But he could lose all the time and he could actually get a personality.

01:29:59.445 --> 01:30:02.587
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's not the work plan.

01:30:02.607 --> 01:30:09.953
[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, in a big man dog, says maybe you can do a mask mask angle between Shinskai Walker and the new tiger mask to get the new tiger mask over.

01:30:10.753 --> 01:30:11.653
[SPEAKER_00]: Now the road are sure.

01:30:11.873 --> 01:30:13.574
[SPEAKER_01]: I think you've got to walk around anytime soon.

01:30:13.874 --> 01:30:17.215
[SPEAKER_00]: And as to that mask, the shoe skywalker mask is pretty cool.

01:30:17.255 --> 01:30:24.438
[SPEAKER_00]: The other thing I keep thinking of a lot of people have supposed whether Shomekato is going to be the new tiger mask or yassada, not convinced is going to be.

01:30:25.038 --> 01:30:28.440
[SPEAKER_00]: There's that had an error of finality to it when

01:30:29.897 --> 01:30:40.445
[SPEAKER_00]: They brought back the very first tiger mask to greet Yamazaki during the tiger mask ceremony at the end the retirement ceremony that had a

01:30:41.401 --> 01:30:54.513
[SPEAKER_00]: That had a feeling of the character being retired as well to me anyway, bringing back the OG and having, you know, Billings and there who, you know, Billings didn't have to do with Yamazaki.

01:30:54.573 --> 01:30:58.617
[SPEAKER_00]: Dynamite Kid was long out of the business by the time Yamazaki rose to prominence.

01:30:58.637 --> 01:31:04.742
[SPEAKER_00]: So, to me, that felt like they were retiring Tiger Mask as well as

01:31:05.683 --> 01:31:08.125
[SPEAKER_00]: uh, just that particular wrestler to me anyway.

01:31:08.185 --> 01:31:16.233
[SPEAKER_00]: It just it just felt like by bringing a lot of Satore Siyama to it, it had an air of finality that others didn't have.

01:31:16.613 --> 01:31:21.417
[SPEAKER_00]: And it also, if you fair Jeremy, it costs money to license that character.

01:31:21.457 --> 01:31:24.901
[SPEAKER_00]: And they might not want to do that anymore, you know, do do do do do that.

01:31:24.921 --> 01:31:28.164
[SPEAKER_00]: Just we can create our own guy and what's that?

01:31:28.684 --> 01:31:30.606
[SPEAKER_01]: Who do they who do they license it from?

01:31:32.738 --> 01:31:34.980
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll be, remember it was a manga.

01:31:35.460 --> 01:31:38.883
[SPEAKER_00]: So there are the people that owned the rights to that manga and that anime series.

01:31:39.403 --> 01:31:44.747
[SPEAKER_00]: There's a manga and an anime series before Satoru Siamo was even Tiger Mask in the early 80s.

01:31:44.807 --> 01:31:51.312
[SPEAKER_00]: So in the early 70s, I think it was a cartoon series and the people that owned that.

01:31:51.573 --> 01:31:55.095
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know the specific company, but it's that character's license.

01:31:55.115 --> 01:31:56.276
[SPEAKER_00]: That's how all Japan got it.

01:31:56.356 --> 01:31:59.098
[SPEAKER_00]: It was because when Siamo left, New Japan,

01:31:59.939 --> 01:32:08.242
[SPEAKER_00]: New Japan let the license laps because why we don't have Xiaomi anymore, and then all Japan picked it up and gave the mass to Masawa, and then it became a thing again.

01:32:08.562 --> 01:32:10.983
[SPEAKER_00]: They don't have to do that.

01:32:11.023 --> 01:32:13.564
[SPEAKER_00]: They might just think, well, let's create our own characters and own everything.

01:32:28.273 --> 01:32:38.199
[SPEAKER_00]: Do you remember when they did Tiger Mask W and it was, uh, Dakota Abushi in mask, uh, and he wrestled ACH, uh, who was also in a matter of thinking.

01:32:39.420 --> 01:32:43.103
[SPEAKER_00]: That was in conjunction with a reboot of the anime series.

01:32:43.163 --> 01:32:44.363
[SPEAKER_01]: I was kind of what I was thinking.

01:32:44.423 --> 01:32:48.246
[SPEAKER_01]: If they might do something like that down the line, it's not, not a way forever.

01:32:48.346 --> 01:32:49.947
[SPEAKER_01]: But it's a viable IP.

01:32:51.470 --> 01:32:57.252
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, I know if we know anything about the entertainment industry that we've learned is that the IP is crucial isn't it so.

01:32:57.712 --> 01:32:58.732
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, we're here.

01:32:59.953 --> 01:33:00.693
[SPEAKER_00]: We're here.

01:33:00.733 --> 01:33:03.294
[SPEAKER_00]: We're here on 99s and we'll Newman be the main event.

01:33:03.834 --> 01:33:06.295
[SPEAKER_00]: Will he be at the main event at all in?

01:33:06.675 --> 01:33:07.395
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think so.

01:33:07.656 --> 01:33:10.817
[SPEAKER_00]: He going to be wrestling in England right around that time, Jeremy.

01:33:10.917 --> 01:33:16.118
[SPEAKER_00]: I believe he is scheduled for a man AEW show that we and I thought.

01:33:21.687 --> 01:33:23.108
[SPEAKER_00]: But I think that's what he's asking.

01:33:24.149 --> 01:33:26.410
[SPEAKER_01]: I wouldn't think that he would be surprised if he did.

01:33:26.430 --> 01:33:32.934
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't know much, but I don't necessarily know if that is the story they want to tell.

01:33:33.715 --> 01:33:37.157
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think they're going to do any huge angle, but he might be there.

01:33:37.978 --> 01:33:42.820
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, with the rest of the week, I don't think you do the angle there because again, it's not an AEW angle.

01:33:42.840 --> 01:33:44.060
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not an AEW story.

01:33:45.101 --> 01:33:49.522
[SPEAKER_00]: They've mentioned it on AEW a couple of times in passing kind of to the side a little bit.

01:33:50.383 --> 01:33:52.503
[SPEAKER_00]: But it's not an AEW angle.

01:33:52.543 --> 01:33:53.884
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not an AEW feud.

01:33:54.044 --> 01:33:57.605
[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't think they'll do the big angle at Wembley stadium.

01:33:58.205 --> 01:34:01.967
[SPEAKER_00]: But there's a little bit of value in having Newman.

01:34:03.603 --> 01:34:18.516
[SPEAKER_00]: If Osprey wins the thing, having Newman standing behind him, looking a little jealous at Osprey, that wouldn't hurt anything, even if you don't do it for Newman to be upset or jealous or something like that.

01:34:18.697 --> 01:34:18.997
[SPEAKER_01]: Bye.

01:34:20.661 --> 01:34:45.971
[SPEAKER_01]: AEW Dynamite did an admittedly fantastic pre-cut video with Offspray and Omega having conversation about their title match and one of the takeaways that I got from that was that Offspray believed that he can't beat Omega the right way by he needed help or all of the things and so like if he's going to beat him he's got to beat him like the baby face so

01:34:50.189 --> 01:34:52.430
[SPEAKER_01]: He's going to be like, no, I got to do this on my own kind of thing.

01:34:52.630 --> 01:34:54.311
[SPEAKER_01]: And we might not get any United Empire.

01:34:55.072 --> 01:34:59.294
[SPEAKER_01]: And even that can play into, oh, you think you're too good for a kind of thing.

01:35:00.275 --> 01:35:03.376
[SPEAKER_01]: So you can, you can do that in New Japan as well.

01:35:04.217 --> 01:35:09.320
[SPEAKER_01]: But I think there's a fine line that you have to navigate between, like I said earlier,

01:35:10.870 --> 01:35:17.234
[SPEAKER_01]: Keeping 1K AEW with Will Offspray with AEW and keeping What's New Japan with Will Offspray with New Japan.

01:35:18.095 --> 01:35:28.022
[SPEAKER_01]: And you can intersect them, but the minute that you make one required viewing for the other, you potentially lose more people than you gave them.

01:35:28.492 --> 01:35:30.453
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I totally agree with you.

01:35:30.733 --> 01:35:33.054
[SPEAKER_00]: And again, it's just not AWS priority.

01:35:33.594 --> 01:35:34.754
[SPEAKER_00]: They have their own stories to tell.

01:35:34.894 --> 01:35:36.235
[SPEAKER_00]: They don't need to be telling this one.

01:35:36.255 --> 01:35:37.695
[SPEAKER_00]: And we don't need them to tell this.

01:35:37.755 --> 01:35:38.876
[SPEAKER_00]: We know the story, right?

01:35:38.916 --> 01:35:41.697
[SPEAKER_00]: But I would rather the angle come on a new Japan show.

01:35:43.106 --> 01:35:48.608
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I wanted to be on something we're watching, I think it will, but I also think it would be good to have Calam there.

01:35:48.688 --> 01:35:49.008
[SPEAKER_00]: Why not?

01:35:49.048 --> 01:35:50.989
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's, it makes sense for him to be there.

01:35:51.029 --> 01:35:51.749
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's a song.

01:35:51.829 --> 01:35:54.930
[SPEAKER_01]: I think he might be in one of the pre like on the dynamite beforehand.

01:35:54.950 --> 01:35:57.251
[SPEAKER_01]: I think they're doing a six-man at the time.

01:35:57.331 --> 01:35:59.732
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, he is, he is all in there with them.

01:35:59.952 --> 01:36:06.734
[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, I wouldn't be surprised if something happened and that team lost going into will offer you a class match.

01:36:06.814 --> 01:36:11.036
[SPEAKER_01]: Kind of think, um, that club, that proved jolly got on that.

01:36:12.215 --> 01:36:30.706
[SPEAKER_00]: It does crack me up that they're both from, it does crack me up that both from Essex because it could too human being sound different than Osprey and, yeah, and though Newman, but from the same, they're both from Essex, that just blows my mind, like, I, yeah, very different accents, very different.

01:36:30.766 --> 01:36:39.811
[SPEAKER_01]: All world sometimes, but that is how, offer a metham like you was in town and Newman's mall will go like, hey, can you help this kid who's like a terror?

01:36:42.273 --> 01:36:47.961
[SPEAKER_00]: War hero says suggests an all-in lumberjack match with the don call us family the empire and the deathwriters Oh my goodness.

01:36:48.142 --> 01:36:50.205
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, we're a flutter marked a field not one

01:36:53.062 --> 01:36:55.944
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, Steven, we should probably get out of here.

01:36:57.065 --> 01:37:01.548
[SPEAKER_01]: We will recap all of the matches that we have coming up next week.

01:37:02.089 --> 01:37:07.913
[SPEAKER_01]: There's nothing so crazy that we have to tell you now, you know, like the matches are going to be there next week.

01:37:08.013 --> 01:37:11.775
[SPEAKER_01]: Chances are, one of them might actually get canceled and we have new information for you.

01:37:12.055 --> 01:37:12.676
[SPEAKER_01]: You never know.

01:37:14.880 --> 01:37:15.300
[SPEAKER_00]: You're right.

01:37:15.360 --> 01:37:19.262
[SPEAKER_00]: And so next week, what we're going to do is really break down these two undercards that we had.

01:37:19.502 --> 01:37:29.627
[SPEAKER_00]: And not that we're going to go over everything matched by match because that'll be ancient history but then, but they did a lot of things in the undercards that these two shows to set up future title matches.

01:37:29.647 --> 01:37:32.989
[SPEAKER_00]: I think we have a direction for almost every title in the company now.

01:37:33.389 --> 01:37:34.549
[SPEAKER_00]: So we're going to talk about that.

01:37:34.609 --> 01:37:36.170
[SPEAKER_00]: Again, no shows this week.

01:37:36.250 --> 01:37:39.192
[SPEAKER_00]: Nothing is going on until the 30th at all.

01:37:39.532 --> 01:37:41.893
[SPEAKER_00]: Nothing on NJPW World until September 6th.

01:37:42.293 --> 01:37:53.679
[SPEAKER_00]: So we have time to kind of sit back and analyze all this and see where it's leading what our thoughts are and but we thought we would just kind of let that all we were way more a match to think again.

01:37:54.599 --> 01:38:06.925
[SPEAKER_00]: It is unique to New Japan and my goodness it just made me made me feel again about what New Japan can do better than anyone else and we saw it this

01:38:11.164 --> 01:38:13.106
[SPEAKER_01]: the feeling of back as they say.

01:38:13.707 --> 01:38:14.528
[SPEAKER_01]: I enjoyed myself.

01:38:14.648 --> 01:38:16.771
[SPEAKER_01]: I've had a great time with the G1.

01:38:16.851 --> 01:38:17.632
[SPEAKER_01]: I got to meet you.

01:38:17.652 --> 01:38:19.053
[SPEAKER_01]: I got to meet Chris.

01:38:19.113 --> 01:38:21.376
[SPEAKER_01]: I watched the final with Melcure.

01:38:21.977 --> 01:38:25.601
[SPEAKER_01]: Like I was up from 330 a.m. Saturday morning.

01:38:28.687 --> 01:38:30.708
[SPEAKER_01]: I did my whole shift at work.

01:38:30.989 --> 01:38:33.390
[SPEAKER_01]: Then I watched the fight, come on, my finals.

01:38:34.251 --> 01:38:37.313
[SPEAKER_01]: Then I tried to take a nap for like two or three hours, it didn't happen.

01:38:37.914 --> 01:38:44.879
[SPEAKER_01]: By this point of 10 o'clock at night, I've agreed to watch the final live at Melker House.

01:38:44.899 --> 01:38:49.422
[SPEAKER_01]: So I go over there at 11, and you still watching the UFC at my fuck my life.

01:38:50.102 --> 01:38:56.725
[SPEAKER_01]: And so I have to watch the last two matches of the UFC before we can watch New Japan and God bless him.

01:38:56.805 --> 01:38:58.926
[SPEAKER_01]: He agreed that we could just pick up lives.

01:38:58.946 --> 01:39:02.327
[SPEAKER_01]: So we made missed watching the first half of the torture match.

01:39:02.347 --> 01:39:03.448
[SPEAKER_01]: But we watch everything else.

01:39:04.488 --> 01:39:10.191
[SPEAKER_01]: And he was nodding off in between the matches because it would get late and I kept him awake.

01:39:10.671 --> 01:39:12.532
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, hey, start the clock, you know,

01:39:18.407 --> 01:39:25.875
[SPEAKER_01]: And then I went and podcasted with Garrett and Dave at like 10 a.m. And then I was up for like the rest of the day.

01:39:25.975 --> 01:39:29.539
[SPEAKER_01]: So it was like 30-foot cow restraint where I was like up.

01:39:29.639 --> 01:39:34.744
[SPEAKER_01]: And I have faith that we've been playing catch up with my life mentally ever since then.

01:39:35.822 --> 01:39:36.944
[SPEAKER_00]: You are a warrior, sir.

01:39:36.984 --> 01:39:38.186
[SPEAKER_00]: You are a warrior, sir.

01:39:38.226 --> 01:39:39.948
[SPEAKER_01]: You get an opportunity to do something like that.

01:39:40.008 --> 01:39:41.130
[SPEAKER_01]: How do you say no, right?

01:39:41.470 --> 01:39:42.492
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, no, I understand.

01:39:42.512 --> 01:39:42.732
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:39:43.133 --> 01:39:46.578
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, the biggest highlight for me was my dream queen to me tickets arrived via FedEx.

01:39:46.958 --> 01:39:48.160
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that was my big thing.

01:39:48.320 --> 01:39:48.661
[SPEAKER_02]: Awesome.

01:39:49.794 --> 01:39:50.154
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

01:39:50.875 --> 01:39:53.977
[SPEAKER_00]: Next week, we will go over the direction of the other championship.

01:39:53.997 --> 01:39:55.098
[SPEAKER_00]: So we talked about the G1.

01:39:55.158 --> 01:39:57.240
[SPEAKER_00]: We know what's going on with the world title in a way.

01:39:57.280 --> 01:39:59.222
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, we know that go to those next all that kind of stuff.

01:39:59.242 --> 01:40:00.963
[SPEAKER_00]: So we are going to look at the other championships.

01:40:00.983 --> 01:40:09.170
[SPEAKER_00]: Look at that undercard, see the things that set up as we go down the stretch into the fall in New Japan pro wrestling and any other news that comes up.

01:40:09.430 --> 01:40:11.351
[SPEAKER_00]: we'll be right here to talk about it.

01:40:11.371 --> 01:40:24.521
[SPEAKER_00]: So I want to thank everybody that joined us here live and especially Chris Samson of course is our guest for all the folks that left us comments if you are watching live or listening to us later, either on YouTube or on a podcast, we're really grateful for your time.

01:40:24.561 --> 01:40:27.143
[SPEAKER_00]: We hope you enjoyed this as much as we did.

01:40:27.263 --> 01:40:28.604
[SPEAKER_00]: It's really energized us.

01:40:28.664 --> 01:40:30.305
[SPEAKER_00]: We hope you're feeling energized too.

01:40:30.345 --> 01:40:32.587
[SPEAKER_01]: For Jeremy Feinstein, I'm just going to pretty good time, Stephen.

01:40:34.048 --> 01:40:35.729
[SPEAKER_00]: For Jeremy Feinstein, I'm Stephen Godwin.

01:40:36.069 --> 01:40:36.790
[SPEAKER_00]: This has been speaking to