Darby Allin AEW Title Reign So Far, Jacob Fatu’s Push & WWE Releases & Possible Landing Spots | Takedown

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[SPEAKER_01]: We are back with a live episode of Take Down, last week we were on demand because I was heading out to Dallas, Texas for an off-site for work, but now I'm back, Paul is here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to talk about Darby Allen, how he's doing two weeks into his AEW

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[SPEAKER_01]: of best fits for where he thinks some of that talent and not only the folks you may be thinking about, uh, mainland and then we'll end with Jacob Fattu.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm, I'm interested in Paul's thoughts.

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[SPEAKER_01]: on if Jacob Fatu is the type of wrestler that WWE could possibly go all the way with because I've just been impressed with his promo skill.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I almost am two impressed and I talked about this with John the Rock Alastand, the fight game podcast.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He, I, I like the edgyness and the grunginess and the street of Jacob, he's almost too polished of a of a promo these days.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just like, you know, give me a couple more or you added a means, you know, so, so those are going to be the three things that we hit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Paul's going to help me out here in some of these cases because I'm still trying to catch up from being out last week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've been listening to my Brian and Dave, so I'm caught up in that way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But when it comes to the television, like I've watched bits and pieces of stuff, but I've not watched a full show in that all.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That'll get better starting, obviously.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm even further behind the new Garrett.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hopefully we'll see the thing is though, is you're going to catch up and I'm not.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you'll eventually get through it and I'm just going to skip to dynamite on Wednesday and that's when I'll kind of pick everything back up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, no, I'm, I literally, I haven't even watched the Go Home Smackdown for Mania yet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I'm so far behind, but so much has happened.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I am, I am up to date on the news.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but yeah, because some of it you just can't avoid it's funny because I got a I got a text from somebody asking me is it true that the white six got released and I'm like my doubt it and then it was like And then all of a sudden it was like a day lose and it was like and then I'm getting the text and the ms and everything yeah and still like today I was learning of people that work that were cut last week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that was a rough one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think this is two shows in a row for the Friday show with Dave, where as we're doing the show, the releases are coming out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, really?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Wow.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he's on his phone.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm scrolling Twitter and just refreshing and I'm looking at Sean Ross Saps stuff to cause, you know, he's usually first on all of it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, that was a tough one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we're just like, yeah, well, because discuss it as it's going, because I think in some cases, the talent didn't even know like, I, I know at least one where they found out about it when Sean reported it, like, yeah, normally they like to tell them first, but I guess they didn't get to in some cases.

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[SPEAKER_01]: One of the things that I did watch though, and it was only because my schedule with John has been a little up in the air of late, so we're not recording in our normal time slot, and then you subbed for him for a couple of those shows that he had to miss, so our schedule's kind of funky.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, you know what?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Instead of trying to catch up on Ron Smackdown and dynamite from last weekend collision, I'm going to watch this Hogan documentary because no one has reviewed it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so that's what I did last night is we John and I reviewed it and I put the video of it on our YouTube channel here on the fake game channel.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's up there if you want to see our is like a 28 minute conversation, but is this some are you planning to watch this Hogan thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I watched most of the first episode earlier today and actually when we're done here, I'll probably watch another, you know, probably get through the second episode, but I was, I was looking for something to watch on Netflix anyways and that just came out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I figured out I watched that and I got a few other things in the watch list, but I figured I might as well watch ads since it just came out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so far, it's just, you know, it's your standard,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Amy Doc, you know, from what I've seen so far, but I gather, it's going to get a little more in depth and you know, I got my BS detectors on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's a wapper that I heard about a half hour in that, you know, it's not a big deal, but it's just like, it's one of those things that they, you know, I think, I don't know if they, if Hogan, this is one where I think Hogan actually believes is why, you know, there's some time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Or he just told that so many times that he just really forgets what the

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, this is when I hadn't heard before, so I feel like he does believe it, but it's just so preposterous that like, I wasn't even there and I know he's a lot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know it's a lot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it was him saying that they brought him in to be a baby face in that first run in WWE F and then he was against DBSC and the fans boot him and DBSC was a baby face at the time and he was managed by Freddie Blassie like he was a heel.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I guess, you know, and even D.B.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Aussies, like, oh, yeah, you know, I was a bad guy and they that booed him and you know, and then he goes on and cuts a cut to like a promo that, you know, it was supposed to be a baby face, but they booed him and it looked in his promo.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's no way this is a baby's promo.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, a lot of that stuff is I think what you said, which is yeah, he just doesn't like he doesn't realize or he doesn't have a great memory.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Dave Dave and Brian talked about one as well, the other night where he was saying he was like 12 years old watching Dusty and he's not even that much younger than Dusty.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, to be, you know, the one that I mentioned with John that was I thought was just the

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[SPEAKER_01]: most ironic, but at the same time, just so Hogan is he's talking about the going on our scenario to do the steroid stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so he's like, yeah, you know, I'd been taking steroid since I was like in high school and, you know, I shouldn't have got, if I could do it again, I wouldn't say that or whatever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And in the same sentence where he's admitting that he lied on our scenario, he then says, I'm the one who got our scenario the job.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So he's cleaning up one

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[SPEAKER_01]: that that's rich.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Logan Hogan had all his stroke with those fox execs back in 1990.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the well our city was a paramount show and it was syndicated so it was all just oh yeah right right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't I don't know what affiliate Hogan would have had, you know, access to whatever, even stuff like there's stuff like that all over the dock.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I know there's a lot of

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[SPEAKER_01]: Paul triple H saying, you know, if it wasn't for Hogan, you know, we could have gone down like relegiver or whatever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the context of that comment is Hogan had just died.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so they were just trying to celebrate him during that moment.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So he, you know, they were, they were about to do the TV show and triple H is like, if you don't want to stand on the stage,

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[SPEAKER_01]: And all the old dudes were there Jimmy Hart in Brian Blair and hacks on those guys and they were just, you know, all sad.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so, that that was the moment of Triple H just saying like, you know, this is even though Maybe he's fallen out of favor.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He still did all these things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was kind of the context in those conversations.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just, you know, when it comes to this stuff, the lack of facts really hurt it, and they didn't have the Dave to refute like the McBandock, like the Mr. McMahon doc, Keith Elliott Greenberg and David Schumaker were there a little bit, but that wasn't really the role.

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[SPEAKER_01]: David Schumaker did it a little bit, but yeah, there was no fact check.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he's he's a gimmick himself, but he at least he has some history knowledge, but yeah, he's a gimmick.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, he's on all the docs and always spinning the, you know, whatever the WWE party line is like, you know, that's And then when a w needs him to write a book, he'll spin the a w stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's cramp.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's getting paid.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's a bill after he's a 2020 keep getting them checks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: K-E-G.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's hit it up right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's start with the first topic, which is you wanted to talk about how Darby Allen is doing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I know there was a dynamite number that came out from last week's show that was not good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I am not an elson home, but I didn't get to watch it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Not that, you know, I don't know if it was, you know, that the playoffs or the West Coast or whatever, but that they did do a lesser number than they'd been doing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, yeah, the playoffs, I mean, NHL and the NBA, and then yeah, the earlier start time, the earlier, all right, I mean, on the west coast, like that usually affects them somewhere between 5 and 10 percent.

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[SPEAKER_00]: One thing I did notice was they were down, impact was down,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Collision was down.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And my first thought was, oh, maybe it's the, you know, it's the, you know, maybe Nielsen adjusted again, you know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I don't think that's it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think the other two were, or the other three were because of the NFL draft.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like that was, you know, that was gonna be Friday Saturday.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that, that explains that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then with with Dynamite, you know,

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[SPEAKER_00]: you know, this was, you know, this was one of their lowest numbers of the year, um, and, you know, our since they adjusted, um, everything that they're doing in January.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I, I think like, you know, it's two weeks, but I, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, we talked about the Derby thing last week, and I hadn't seen it yet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'd heard about it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I hadn't watched that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I hadn't finished watching the paper

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, not a great, I'm not a huge fan of the way they did it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, you know, there was, there was good parts to it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, you know, it was a, it was an interesting story that they told, you know, with, you know, MJF being surprised and everything.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it kind of made it almost like comedy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then, you know, in Starby and I'm not opposed, you know, John said the same thing and I actually heard Dave say pretty much the same thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I'm not opposed to Darby Allen being the AW World Champion.

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[SPEAKER_00]: In fact, you know, two years ago, I was pretty sure it was going to happen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: but like right now just did not feel like the right time and and it's not like the fans were clamoring for it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You got a good reaction in in ever it, but not like an all-time memorable, you know, like you would have expected.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like it was it was a nice pop and I don't think people were expecting it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, although, you know, where to get out and stuff that, you know, there might be a title change.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, I think people may be where I don't think they were expecting it the way it happened.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So when he, you know, when he low blows him and hits him with four straight coffee drops and then there's a step over take over like, you know, it's like, isn't really going to happen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my god, it happened.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We have a new champion.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And, but then, you know, like last week, he has his first title defense and it does like the lowest number in two and a half months.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And how much of that how much of that may have been.

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[SPEAKER_00]: that might be part of it too, although Champa, if you look at Champa's big matches, they've been on shows that have done really good numbers, like the first collision that they did a great number was like his debut.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And people were joking, oh yeah, Champa's a draw and I'm like, yeah, it's not Champa, it's something else.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But then, like every time he was in a big match, the show did a good number.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, I can't, I can't, like, I'm not saying Chomp is the reason that the ratings turned around, but I also can't blame, yeah, I can't say, or Chomp is not a marquee opponent.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I do think, like, it's, it's a cold match and like, it's no build.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, yeah, they, they, I mean, they announced it, you know, I think on collision.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He got a win the week before so it was like it's not like he didn't deserve it and but I think this is what Darby's title maps is going to be like I just have a feeling he's going to defend the title every week on TV until he loses it and it and he's not going to hold it for very long that that's my gut I mean he's defending his brody king tomorrow night

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I think AWS fans are smart enough to know like we're probably not going to get another title change.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, this quick, although I do think that a lot of people will be expecting a title change on the next paper view.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Whether or not it happens is another story, but you know, whoever he's going to defend again, I assume it's going to be MJF, but.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, yeah, so I, I just like, and then to take it sales, like, they've been okay, but not great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, they're down this quarter compared to a quarter to a last year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I saw, um, I was reading dead, uh, thersons update today, not a lot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're down like 8%.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, it's, it's, they're not up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, you know, this week, I think they're up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're in Virginia.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I wonder if people are expecting hangman back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, you know, that could be a reason for take a sales and that that that that would be one that I would promote if it was going to happen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and see, and I didn't seem interested in promoting like even that world time, I just had to think with that world time, much last week or do we before like two weeks ago.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I watched the paper view, and I saw the promo that Derby did, but it's like a kind of just in one year out the other.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I knew he was challenging.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I actually knew he had won, but I didn't realize they actually announced the match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They didn't, I don't think they actually put up a graphic for the match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, like, unless you're super paying attention and dialed in on social media, I don't think you even knew that Derby was challenging for the title.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I listened to Brian and Vinnie, and they didn't know they were after show, and they had no idea until they got home.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That that dark if they were if they were at the presser.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he said it at the presser Sure, yeah, but I mean who's watching the presser like you know I mean it probably gets 100,000 views But I don't think those 100,000 people.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not like 100,000 people watching on TV I mean the word gets out and and I'm sure a good portion of their fans knew But it's not the kind of thing where it's attracting casual fans that You know checking every once in a while for dynamite and it's like oh shit Barbies gonna win the title tonight like I don't think there was that buzz at all

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, although, you know, I think for hardcore fans that watch every week anyways, yeah, they knew.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, it's not the kind of thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I mean, even the fully thing of people have compared it to like that one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, they had a week of build and then they had the competition promoting for the, so that was cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was a tape show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it was a tape show and the, and Tony Shavani was nice enough to say, hey, McFulley's gonna win the title.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Shane, switch the channel.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you know what I was thinking?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I wish I trusted these ratings a little bit more because I would wonder if

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[SPEAKER_01]: You put the belt on Darby or even in the rise where you're looking at his quarters and stuff and I would wonder if those younger viewers were going up a little bit like you know thinking of what why would Tony con do this right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's, you know, he's, there's a reason for him doing it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not just because Darby's a nice guy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think, and I think this was his plan, probably going back about probably when MJF won the title.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would think that whenever they book this show in Everett, I'll bet you that he had it, Earmark, Darby's gonna win the title here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's my guess, you know, having watched Tony Con for seven years.

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[SPEAKER_01]: sure, but what were the, what were the analytics that said that this would be a good idea?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if we, if we had quarter hours, yeah, maybe maybe you see something in his segments.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, they do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think I think they do because David, that's why, yeah, that's why I'm wondering, like maybe there's something in the data that we're not seeing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're Tony cons, I know, this would be a nice experiment to put the belt on him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe we get younger, maybe we get a

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe we get a different kind of fan than we're getting, like I don't know what that is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Or could it just be as simple as we need to teach our fans that a title can change hands on television.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So maybe they'd notice that they weren't getting increases for world title matches, because people assumed that there wasn't going to be a title change.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So this way they teach their fans, and so the next time they have a big world title match, maybe more people will tune in because they expect their could be a title change.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The one that I was comparing it to, I know you said McFoli.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was thinking Jeff Hardy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There was that time where Dave was saying that Jeff Hardy might be even more popular than John Cena as a baby face with this fan base.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Jeff Hardy would always kind of shoot himself in the foot and you could never really trust him to do business.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So he wouldn't hold top spots for very long.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and Jeff Hardy was way more popular at that time than Darby is today, just the depth, just the viewership is a little bit different.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I was like thinking like, well, I wonder if this was a little bit more of a lean towards what WWE thought back in 2000,

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[SPEAKER_01]: or whenever that was 2009 when when they did put the belt, one of the belts on Jeff Hardy for that short period of time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because Jeff Hardy, I'm sure drew a much different fan than John Cena did, even though John Cena kind of drew that casual fan that you're talking about.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Jardys fans, I'm going to guess without without going back and reading Dave's reporting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to guess it was probably a little bit more female, a little younger.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, just a different demo, and maybe maybe we're going to see that with Darby, the problem is, like you're saying or what you expect, we're probably not going to have a lot of of data for the sample because it's probably not going to, he's not going to be champion for very long.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, but I mean, you might get, you know, five or six title defenses in, you know, in the next month and a half.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that'd be an interesting question for Dave though like maybe when you do a show with them because he's he's probably got some of those numbers so he may be able to have a look and and see I feel like if that was the truth though

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[SPEAKER_00]: He would probably state that, got you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he's been pretty like, yeah, from what I've heard.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And again, I haven't listened to any of the observer's since Mania, I'm actually just on the Mania observer videos.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I would think that, yeah, Dave, Dave's been pretty like, I don't know if this was a good idea.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, you know, it's kind of the take I'm getting from him, although it looks like he loved that Champa match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So maybe he's changed his mind.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think they liked a lot of the Champa match, but he also thought, and Brian also thought, the same thing of all of these matches, which is there's a point in the match where you're just like taking out of it a bit because of the craziness.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you start thinking about, is this guy going to kill himself rather than is he going to win this match?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, and that's, and I almost wonder if that's like, um,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, Fernando made the comment that Tony just like star, maybe that's the reason you did it, but but I almost wonder if it's like Tony wants to be the world champion and maybe he's like he knows like this guy can't do this forever.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm I should probably give him the title while I can.

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[SPEAKER_00]: because you know a year from now you know who knows you know like he could you know like take one too many falls you know like you know hip fingers crossed hope that doesn't happen obviously yeah but yeah it does seem like he's constantly playing with fire yeah and and at some point you get burned or you know again like he made just at somebody made this idea I want to go uh you know whatever climb another mountain

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I mean, we probably don't have enough information to say whether this is a success or not a success, but what I can say, I think definitively is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The reason for MJF to not be the champion right now, like Tony has a reason my preference as a fan.

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[SPEAKER_01]: is I would like mgf to still be the champion.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What I've seen from Darby so far has not changed my mind that mgf should still be the champion at the very least I don't think I think I can say it's not I can't find a positive reason for it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I can't 100% say it was a negative

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[SPEAKER_00]: at best, I can say it's neutral, but, you know, I mean, there's some evidence that it might be a negative.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not prepared to say that yet, but I definitely don't see anything about it that was a positive in terms of their business, at least yet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, and again, things can change.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe tomorrow, I can do 800,000 in a point two, and then that'd be great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'd be freaking tremendous, and then it's just like, okay, maybe when he was honest.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, let's talk about the cuts, the WWE cuts that we're happening.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I know you have some spots for folks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I got the good landing spots for them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I went through the list and I mean, there's a lot of names and man, like there's a few of them, like even today, like when I was looking at it, I didn't even know when I was not.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I can't say I was surprised by most of them, you know, they're the kind of names that like in a lot of cases.

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[SPEAKER_00]: probably didn't even, maybe didn't realize they still work there, but yeah, so, um, and there's a few names out here that, you know, I'll get to and I'll say, you know, like, why they didn't necessarily make the cut of my top five, but my number one, and this is again, one that I just found out about today.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I obviously, I'm sure a lot of other people knew about it, but again, I'm not one thousand percent caught up with the news.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Santos Escobar.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, you know, which is odd because he has contract ran out and then there was rumour he's gonna go to a w or CMLL or both and then ww signed them paid him a ton of money and then didn't use them and then finally they bring him back to AAA and immediately he gets hurt and then he gets cut which yep.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, really weird.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but I think that's a got that's a valuable

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[SPEAKER_00]: you know, ASAP because I think the CML fans will appreciate him and his gimmick and his family heritage a lot more than the dribbler fans do, which at this point right now is mainly just WWE fans and I think you'll have some value in the US as well, you know, obviously speaks English very well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's got a great look.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's older, but he doesn't wrestle like he's old.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He doesn't look as old as he is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, he could have another 10 years, you know, in a really strong position.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think Sean reported today that CMLL was expecting him to sign with them before he came back to WWE.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, and they know hard feelings, hopefully?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I, who knows.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, if he was, I mean, I get the impression that his contract was like maybe like 750 grand

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, if you get offered that kind of money, like, even if you wanted to go to CMLL, like, it's kind of hard to turn that down.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, so yeah, if, you know, as long as they have no hard field, that's my number one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Out of all, out of all of all these these names.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, number two, I've got the Boulder City machine guns.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think there's going to be W and our wage, you know, there they could almost be in more level like a player coach role, but I think there's still probably another five years of, you know, solid in-ring work that they could do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're younger than people think they are, like I think they're early 40s.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, and, you know, and they've got that long history in our way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So Tony can capitalize on that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They get a match is with the young bucks, FTR, um, the rascals, uh, you know, and, and, you know, a lot of a lot of other teams, edge and Christian, um, and they can go to our way, probably like be their tag team champions, um, you know, again, with the long history there and work with some of those younger talents that they have over there and and bring some of them up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think that's a natural.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I assume it's a 90 day no compete, so I mean, probably get them around all in, you know, hopefully and I hope they go there because they got the one year in WWE, probably made a lot of money and maybe you don't check the box and it's unfortunate because I thought they did a really good job in WWE and they got over and they had some of the best tag team matches over the last year in the company, but they just that division was basically ignored.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's funny because now that I hear the street profits are back and they probably will start trying to push the tag team division again, but there's a great team and and they had another great team that they demolished the IY they let Chompago so you know like that division is a lot less interesting than it was a year ago in my opinion do you think that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Tony just recently bringing in the rascals, you think it's just too much of these smaller working tag teams for that roster.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I should say yes, but I don't I don't think you can have too many like the way Tony books like I think you'll just sign whoever he wants.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean at this point and you know, and the people that he, you know, it's like, it's like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like he signing all these talents and then the ones he's not using they just get pushed down the pack and well, that's not thinking I think it's a like top flight like top flight and other step backwards.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, who cares.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, where's private party?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, they yeah, they brought the well, I think one of them's injured.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, yeah, so, but then they did a promo at the other one, the one that's not injured.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's Isaiah that's still healthy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He did a promo on collision a couple of weeks ago and he said, yeah, you know, my partner's injured, but I'm still here and, and I know, OK, they're going to do a single push with him and we haven't seen him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So maybe he's on our way, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I haven't, I watch our way, but again, I'm a couple of weeks behind.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, but yeah, like I think Tony's just, he could he'll take the, if a top talent that he thinks he can do something with his available, he's going to sign him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, because, you know, there's injuries, there's things happen, there's people get unhappy, you know, whatever, and even, you know, if you've got too many people, oh well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, Lady B just brought up a good point that there's yeah there is a show there is a two shows in Detroit coming up here that they just announced actually dynamite collision and I think August so there you go there you go that'd be a good place for them to show yeah motor city baby so yeah there in my number two my number three all the fire

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like that that lady is talented.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, the former Kaylee Ray.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I always get her highly Ray mixed up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, and I assume she'll go back to that or, you know, whatever her real name is, or maybe that is her real name.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, you know, this show is, this show is called Take Down, because we, we try and be, you know, pretty decisive about things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And John the Rocka had a pretty hot take last night.

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[SPEAKER_01]: would, if she joined the AWS roster, she would be the best female wrestler, even better than Mercedes Monet on day one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not sure I would agree with that, but definitely top five, if not top three.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I, Mercedes better.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I can't, you know, if you're talking total package, if you're just talking in like, he's just talking in ring.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, what?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's hard to say.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I still would take Mercedes, but I would take a Mercedes for a lot of other reasons than the in ring.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I understand his point in that she's better than people realize and that would be the place to go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, and not just the in ring, she's very good at everything else.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She's got a great look.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, she's she'll she'll take garbage and make it good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, so, you know, I, you know, not the deputy, not that he would give her garbage, but that gimmick she had with Chelsea Green was, I mean, that was a death gimmick and she made it work.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, you know, Chelsea too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I, I was surprised.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was really surprised by that one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, you know, I know a lot of people are surprised.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think she's even, if she goes anywhere, it's probably going to be somewhere in Japan as my guess.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think she's even available necessarily for a W. Although I do expect her to show up at some point in a W, but maybe not full time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I assume she'll probably go back to startup and they're kind of off my radar, so that's why I don't necessarily think, but if you're a startup fan, you should be really excited that you might be getting her back, because I think that's where she's going to end up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's number four number four and so my number four number five are similar, but I'll start with number four and it's true London

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, most people I don't know this is, no you don't, but I did send you a video of his, about six months ago.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This guy is a combination of Javan Evans and Jeff Hardy and his promo style and his in-ring.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He lists Jeff Hardy as an influence.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He tries to be him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's from, he was on LFG and he was also on,

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he was in the tail end of like 205 live and also or whatever the follow-up level up and then evolved.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He did a couple of appearances there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was shocked that they released this guy like shocked.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I looked at him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and he's good in the ring he's he's a former NFL player and I think he was a cornerback you know he's a lot of speed not a huge guy you know obviously using the comparables that they gave but I think that that's a guy that you know they could probably you could get they need W or maybe even a TNA can get sheep and develop.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And if he ends up in a W, like he could be a, like he could be like a Kevin night, like he's got why did W come I have no idea and that's what like maybe there's something I don't know and that's going to be the same thing with my number five like there could be reasons, but there's nothing I've heard.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like it might just be they're looking at these names and it's like, Oh, well, we're not using him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's call us.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They have incoming folks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So they do a lot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And if you look at like I was not surprised that they made all these cuts because I watch everything and, you know, you can see like, okay, starting with the vault like there's people that left of all either, you know, like they went up to NXT, you know, that's it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They went up to NXT.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's an XC people that were called up to the main roster.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's people.

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[SPEAKER_00]: that they're bringing in off the Indies, that they're putting on TV right away, which they haven't done.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, like a Starboy Charlie, Dory and Vendukes, this Starboy Charlie one cracks me up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because I mean, so I'm trying to think of the timeframe.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So there were some shows.

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[SPEAKER_01]: that Brian Alvarez came out here in the Bay Area for Marcus Mack, and John was looking at the daily city show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Starboy Charlie was like the little guy in the opening matches back then.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so think of that, it's probably like six or seven years ago at this point.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Same time I make maybe longer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe longer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think it's the same thing you're talking

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[SPEAKER_01]: same time frame where I met Chris Christofferson who is there to support his son, Jody Christofferson.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I remember that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that was like 2018.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, something like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so to see Starboy Charlie on NXT, and I'm like, wait a second.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like this guy was too small to wrestle for Bay Area independent wrestling for all pro wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And now he's next to you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought that was the wildest thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and then like this, you know, and some of these guys, like I'd heard about Dorian Baddukes, I think it's, name used to be Mike DeVecchio or something like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'd heard the name, but I'd never, I'd seen a maybe once or twice.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've watched a few WXW shows.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This Tristan Angels, I've never seen him before.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He'd like a,

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know it reminds me a little bit of carry on Eric like he's a little bit smaller, but you know, he's from the UK and he's got this incredible look like Matt Riddle ish, you know, who's your number five so my number five is not is the similar guy, Chris Island who is you know, another another trillion now the difference with Chris Island is

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's done even less on like evolve and everything.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He was on L of G, but like I think it may be he wrestled one son of all But but he had he was great on L of G like he stood out You know as as a promo guy and he's also an accomplished amateur wrestler that I was surprised he was amateur wrestling in college like in 2024 Those are like two years ago

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[SPEAKER_00]: So this guy is like young, and he's like, you know, there's something there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So if, you know, if Tony signs him and just let's him work in our way, and, you know, like, and does, you know, like, maybe puts him on dynamite every once in a while, they have a match that he's going to lose, you know, just to get his name out there, or, you know, maybe go to New Japan, and, you know, and joins their dojo or something like that,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, this guy is something that, uh, you know, that, that, I think, out of all these people that got cut, like if I'm looking at five years down the road, like I think these dots to true learning in Chris Island, like these might be the guy that you kind of look at and how to WWE let those these two guys go and and if you don't know who they are and I'm sure most people listening don't.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, Google them and just look at them, like, you know, and then listen to the Google a chill London promo and you'll be like, wait, wait, wait.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Why did the like this chill London is a better promo than 90% of the people in AW.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like he's, this guy's got it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I'm, I'm shocked that WWE cut him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So maybe there's like attitude reasons or something.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe they didn't think he was picking it up enough.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I also have a feeling that he's

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[SPEAKER_00]: you know, they're going to look at and say, wait a minute, what do we do?

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, so yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So those are my guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I love the lot of like interesting names off.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, like, I don't, everyone's talking about tyramy steel.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm, I'm sorry, but I've been watching her and she's gotten worse every time I see her.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I don't know if it's her, I don't know if it's that system that beat her down, what it is, and I'm not writing her off, like maybe show, you know, can recoup, but I think with her, like she's

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[SPEAKER_00]: and but she's obviously a incredible natural athlete probably one of the best out there so i certainly you know wouldn't be surprised if somebody picks her up but she also maybe look at like i don't i don't really want anything to do with this business anymore like sometimes people go through WWE and and they come out thinking like that in fact i'd say most you know like when they come in through the uh in i.l.

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[SPEAKER_00]: program

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[SPEAKER_00]: What about black?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, like, I guess he could show up, like a New Japan or something.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think Tony would touch that guy with a 10-foot pull.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Zilina Vega, same thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, she's good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I actually just watched what I assume was her last match in WWE.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it was like pretty good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: With Jordan Gray, it's on main event.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, they had like a three and a half star match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think I was walking in to SmackDown when that match was going on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that was, yes, I don't say.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it was good match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like got great crowd reaction and yeah, and little did she know I'm maybe she knew I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was before me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, she didn't know that was the that was the whole thing is she was on her twitch dream.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think what she found out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: When she found out and she was all mad at Sean for spoiling her news or something I think oh, okay, so yeah, that you know and and I'm like I'm not I'm more surprised that they signed him back in the first place than they then I am that they cut him and with Zelina like

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[SPEAKER_00]: just kind of assumed that some point she's going to get cut like like that's another like a polo cruise like i could see a w signing him and you know he could be in that you know like our wage collision you know like never any spiral he's never going to go anywhere but it's going to have good matches and it's a name people are going to recognize he'll go back to being you are nationwide assume you know what when he's you know but made back on the indies that's a talent to do 10 years on the main roster

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was at the raw when he debuted and at that time, I said it's too early for him and he's not going to do well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like it, you see legend.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he debuted the same day as Baron Corbin.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he lasted a hell of a lot longer than Baron Corbin.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, but I'd say Baron Corbin had the more memorable WWE career anyways, because yeah, the most memorable he had the US title when he when he had was at Abutum Bay or whatever behind him and you know, doing that Nigerian prince gimmick.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so let's switch gears to our last topic here, which is about Jacob Fattu.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's still a little bit of like a fever dream to me because I know, I'm not that I know him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm a noose, but I've just been watching him for a while, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's like the Bay Area dude who is on the Indies has a ton of talent who in the past, you know, maybe WWE is a little bit of scared of because of for whatever reason.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But now he's like corporate Jacob Fatu a little bit because he's so perfect for what they do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just wonder, is this his level like facing Roman Reigns at backlash?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Could you see a situation where they go all the way with Jacob Fattu?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right now, I don't think so.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The funny thing is I did have someone text me and say, am I crazy that I want Jacob Fattu to win the title or to win at backlash?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And again, I'm behind on the TV.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I didn't actually know what he was talking about and I'm like, well,

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, you're not crazy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What's the match?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then he's like, oh, you haven't seen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he didn't want to spoil it for me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he didn't tell me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I kind of assumed it was probably Roman.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, I mean, I think they got bigger plans for Roman.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I do think that he'll win the championship at some point.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Could they go all the way?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, make him like a Roman, Cody, punk.

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[SPEAKER_00]: level.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's certainly talented enough, but I think right now, the priorities probably got to be over for a lot of reasons, but you know, only got two brands and, you know, fat two could certainly carry one of them if they thought he was ready.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So this will be a big test.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think the way that match goes like I can't imagine a world in which he wins, but if they have a like a long match and it's competitive and there's some believable near falls and then you'll know, okay, they're serious and they're getting people ready for it, but if it's just, you know, like your standard match, like

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, like, is he going to be Kevin Owens, you know, like, where, you know, yeah, he can get up to that level to where he challenges Roman Reigns, but he's never going to beat him or is it going to be more like you can see, okay, no, no, this is this is Cody, you know, like at some point he's going to win.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think we'll be, I think we should be able to tell by how that match goes next weekend.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's already next weekend.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's already next weekend.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what we can.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We can have from now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't expect him to beat Roman Reigns this early, but when you do the roster math and you go, okay, you got Roman, you got Cody, you got punk.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You have Gunther.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Those are like the the Tippy top four guys Randy Orton is kind of right there depending on how, you know, how, how much he's going to actually wrestle.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You have the guys like you just said, Oba, I failed to mention Seth Seth is also in that group.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Oba, you got brown breaker.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, another one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You got trick.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think Jacob fits with those guys, but he's also the, he's also on the older end of those guys and I don't think people see him as a young guy necessarily because he's been with WWE for like a year and a half now yeah so I just seems like there's a lot of guys in front of Jacob.

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[SPEAKER_01]: if they were to give him the ball.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it doesn't mean he's got to be the top star in the entire company.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just thinking would they actually have faith in him to give him a tippy top match at WrestleMania?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Who knows what would have happened if he didn't have the surgery with the mouth surgery that he had to do last year at some point?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because it looked like something was going to happen for him and then he was just out for a little while.

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[SPEAKER_01]: whether or not that was with Drew because they're the Drew Cody mix and so I don't know it was going to happen there but you know Drew's another one who he's going to be gone but when he comes back he's going to be probably a little bit above Jacob.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I so that actually it's funny you just mentioned him because that's the guy I realize like that's probably his ceiling.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, is Drew like whatever level Drew got to and even where he still is and that's not a bad place to be like that is right below the tippy top guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That is It was a little bit below Seth, but you know above like 95% of the roster and I could see like if Randy Orton beats Cody

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[SPEAKER_00]: I could see Jacob Fatu being the guy to be Randy Orton, you know, maybe like just after Summer Slime, like around that timeframe and then hold it into the Royal Rumble, like that kind of thing, like I could see that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I wouldn't, I'm not necessarily saying I would predict it, but I could definitely see it happening.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, here's a hot take for you, okay?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Jacob Fatu.

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[SPEAKER_01]: could be everything, WWE wished Jay Uso was, oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I agree with that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's not as over as Jay was at his peak, but there's more there that should make whatever level he's at or gets to more sustainable than it was for Jay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because he's, he's world's better in the ring.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, it's not even comparable.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I also think he's a way better promo.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And

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[SPEAKER_01]: in the media spaces.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, he is not conventional suit wearing buttoned up Cody.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's not extravagant.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Good, good morning, football, Seth Rollins.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But he might get you on some of those shows that none of those guys could ever do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, like the type of stuff that Swerve does for a W. Like I could centric a trick as a guy doing a lot of that stuff too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But he's got that edge to him and he kind of fits in to some spaces that they might be interested in him if they kind of lean that direction that I think could be really, really interested in him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he could also have that kind of appeal that people would have for like, I don't know what the word is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: underdog, ish, you know, like the kind of appeal where people got behind, like I'll say again, I'll say the name of Kevin Owens.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, fully, like, not your typical, you know, like six foot four, 260 pounds, you know, like built on a granite, like this is more like your brawler, like I'm not saying Jacob fat two looks like every man, because he's definitely does not.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But he looks different from your typical WWE superstar and and people like different.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and and he's got the unique background and he's got the you know the rags to riches story behind him and and you know and he's told it which is key you know so he's a guy that you know you can kind of pull for you know he wasn't a bad space and he pulled himself out of it and he made it to WWE and he's a big star now and i think people like that story um and and and and they can lean into it if he gets a big push they can tell that story more in depth

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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, with the WWE promotional machine behind them, yeah, I mean, they could, they could go a long way with them if they want to.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think like you said, the way that they handle this match with Rowan will be very telling.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you got to imagine the twins get involved in some way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, one way or the other.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Or, you know, maybe they're just there to make sure nobody else gets involved.

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[SPEAKER_00]: you know, and you see could have that you could have like a drew back entire return or something and you know, like I try to get involved and then they stop them, you know, and you know, whoever else Roman's next opponent's going to be like, it could be something like that where, you know, like the the family reunites as a result of this match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you know what they will never do this, but these guys have history together.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They know each other.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They've wrestled in the same area.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They've wrestled each other.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You put Jeff Cobb and Jacob fought two together that would be tremendous as like a duo or even as a tag team, yeah, these two powerhouse dudes, you know, from different backgrounds.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it would be awesome, but they have to be in a powerhouse, I mean, they could also do that with Royce keys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you do with Hobbes, yeah, yeah, with Hobbes for sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So they, I mean, they had there's so much opportunity with a lot of these guys who are kind of in the middle or the upper middle that are kind of fresh like is going on in the chat kind of talking about fresh guys and then you got the newer guys like trick and and brawn and such and so there's like

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'd like that's the most interesting part of WWE to me right now is kind of the bubbling middle and the upper middle.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Cody's great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Gunther's great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Punk is great, Roman's great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've seen those guys more times than I really need to in my lifetime, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to see the guys right underneath them and where they go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what I'm going to be right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And what's exciting is if you listen to what some of the power brokers in WWE say, like in some of these interviews, and everything, it's pretty clear that

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[SPEAKER_00]: One of their goals is to get some new faces up there and involved in that main event mix, so that's where it's it's a really good time to be any of those guys you just mentioned because, you know, like you look at Mania like they did a good job at Mania of getting some of this new talent over.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, whatever you felt about night one in specific, I think universally people like night two, but, you know, like they, you know, like, I mean, the, the old thing couldn't have gone better trick could have gone better, but it went pretty well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Or maybe maybe maybe I've been led to believe that it's not going to be the case.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll see when I watch it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: One one little last small tiny one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Are we going to see the resurgence of reapply as like the ultimate top?

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[SPEAKER_01]: top person in the women.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because she kind of, she didn't really take a back seat last year, but she was doing a lot of tag team stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, the year before she was hotter than ever, I wonder, are we going to get rea back like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: as popular as like the top male stars I hope so I hope so I mean I think rean live could be a really big match at some point this year in fact I probably get it like if they do queen of the ring again or you know whatever that night to champions

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, but yeah, like they think he the key is she needs a big opponent and, uh, you know, beyond obviously would be the one, but she's obviously not going to be around for a long time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, you know, Scott, you know, Scott that, you know, friendship with her and at some point they'll split up and have a match, but I don't think that should happen anytime soon.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I, I, yeah, I don't, I think there's, there's a lot of momentum there with them as a next next

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that'd be good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That'd be, yeah, at the earliest.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I like the idea of a team of best friends that you're not even hinting at, that they're just, they've got each other's back and, you know, and that I love that story.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, I'd soon probably like, yeah, rea as I mean, there's not a lot of depth on that women's side on SmackDown.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I, I don't know who got called up from NXT, so, you know, she'll probably face some of those people, you know, soon later.

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[SPEAKER_00]: JC got called up down.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Jacy and her entire Kruga called up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's a nice TV match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they'll date a tactoria.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Laney, Laney Reed is not quite ready for that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, the other two are, I mean, we need sooner than later to get J to Parker and the Levi set theirs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, J, you know, and you know, even a little bit further down the road, Kaylee Armstrong, Kendall Gray.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously, yeah, that's a big one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think Wendy Chu I just saw one the evolved title and I had no idea it happened like two weeks ago I was in her pajamas still no no she's she's like serious she's back to where she was before she signed in WWE like the whatever like the Karen Q was it was that her name

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I was in it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She was in our way, and that she's basically doing that character.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, her name's still Wendy too, but kind of rhymes with Karen Q. I think that was her name.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've probably got her wrong.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Somebody don't correct me, but yeah, it sounds happy for her because I was wondering, maybe she's on this cut list.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, because there's a couple other people in that match that were on the cut list.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, it was like an eight woman match for the vacant title at Kendall Gray for fitted.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but yeah, like I, yeah, so that's, I mean, J.C.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, that's, that's a nice first opponent.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, who would be the big one that would be like for the next big show, like probably another match of Jane.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm assuming.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, Jade Bailey.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I don't know, she's on Raw.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like there's Jordan Grace.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that could be interesting as opposed, but

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think Charlotte Charlotte and Rhea had great matches before.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's true.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They had the best match in a minute, a couple of years ago.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Actually, that could be Summer Slime match for sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you could do Rhea and Alexa as a tune up for that too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, well, I'll be back in the swing of things with the with the regular TV next week, so I'll be I'll be right back in there, but this will still fun to talk about the bigger things coming out of WrestleMania and some of the bigger things going on at W and you know, pretty excited for forbidden door coming to San Jose.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Not that that is the best kind of AEW can in show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I think that's also what I like about it is it's a little different.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And if I get that credential, I'll be running around out there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So just some pretty cool things to look forward to backlash is coming up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I guess there's going to be like a new AEW paper view in July.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Supposedly Recherpution.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is that what it's called?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we'll see if we'll see if the

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[SPEAKER_00]: Saudi Arabia show happens if I if I hadn't gone if I hadn't gone to Mania I would strongly consider coming to San Jose for that forbidden door But I don't think I can do it because my wife says I've gone to the state too much this year Yes, she's she doesn't want she's she's against it, man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well at least I took money away this time So I think she's yeah, but maybe that's your hook you're like yeah, well

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I have the trip already paid for like yeah, yeah, no, it's not it's not about the money.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's it's it's it's going to have the time it's about the time I'd love to hang out with you guys for a weekend, but I'm yeah, all right, if anyone is coming let me know we'll figure some, figure some plans out for that weekend food Places to hang out and just chit chat maybe a a tour of Big Dave's house.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I'm not sure about that one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But all right, that is it from here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So for Paul, I am double G and thanks to everybody who was hanging out in the chat.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All of my faves were in the chat for Nando and Maria.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Again, that was Lady B and was in there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We had a new person who I didn't recognize.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Ben Grimm up all night.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, he had the tidbit on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: on the Zelina thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess she knew, but she wanted to tell her chat that she had gotten released and probably someone went in there and spoiled it with Sean's news.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So he says that's why she got mad.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, that's it from here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll see what we see you piece out.