Best of the Super Juniors Recap, YOH's Big Win & Dominion Preview | Speaking of Strong Style

WEBVTT

00:00.051 --> 00:01.512
[SPEAKER_01]: The World Cup is underway.

00:01.552 --> 00:05.414
[SPEAKER_01]: There was historic NBA game last night with an America comeback.

00:05.454 --> 00:09.597
[SPEAKER_01]: So not even New Japan can ruin my mood this week, although they tried.

00:10.077 --> 00:19.703
[SPEAKER_01]: We air we'll take a look at the end of the Super Junior tournament, preview Dominion, and look more at the career of Tiger Mask, which Jeremy Feinstone, I'm Stephen Conway, this is Speaking of Strong Style.

00:29.524 --> 00:31.466
[SPEAKER_01]: Welcome everyone to speaking of strong style.

00:31.506 --> 00:34.568
[SPEAKER_01]: We discussed the new musicians and events surrounding New Japan pro wrestling.

00:35.069 --> 00:38.692
[SPEAKER_01]: I just got done watching Mexico take the first three points of the World Cup.

00:38.712 --> 00:45.217
[SPEAKER_01]: They defeated South Africa today, two nil, three red cards in the game during more red cards than goals in the first game.

00:46.098 --> 00:48.139
[SPEAKER_01]: But I'm thrilled that the World Cup is here.

00:48.159 --> 00:49.340
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm a big soccer nut.

00:49.541 --> 00:52.343
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm still on a high from that spurs next game last night.

00:52.363 --> 00:53.484
[SPEAKER_01]: That was unbelievable.

00:53.944 --> 00:55.486
[SPEAKER_01]: So I am in a good mood.

00:55.526 --> 00:56.567
[SPEAKER_01]: Nothing's brain me out of it.

00:57.047 --> 01:07.938
[SPEAKER_01]: And we're going to talk super juniors here today where of all things Jeremy, the one guy I said didn't make sense in the finals ended up winning the thing.

01:08.679 --> 01:12.483
[SPEAKER_01]: Yo is our best of the super junior winner.

01:13.724 --> 01:13.944
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

01:13.964 --> 01:14.324
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

01:15.365 --> 01:15.785
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

01:16.626 --> 01:17.546
[SPEAKER_00]: That's how I feel about it.

01:18.007 --> 01:18.347
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

01:18.607 --> 01:23.090
[SPEAKER_00]: He had an excellent pair of matches to finish out his campaign.

01:23.770 --> 01:25.211
[SPEAKER_00]: She's nothing away from it.

01:26.451 --> 01:36.337
[SPEAKER_00]: I just, I am very disinterested in the lack of days, the gold sense of direction that New Japan seems to be has to be right now.

01:38.839 --> 02:04.080
[SPEAKER_00]: We're heading into the guy facing off against Dokey and whoever beat Dokey is going to be the 100th IWGP junior every way champion and I didn't really see yo being that guy in that position to get the first real crack at that after best of the super junior it's a winning best of the super junior and it doesn't necessarily mean that he is going to win that win that belt after winning the honor, but

02:06.842 --> 02:15.446
[SPEAKER_00]: The idea that New Japan really needs to have a sense of urgency seems to exist to everyone, but the company of New Japan pro wrestling.

02:16.407 --> 02:25.532
[SPEAKER_00]: And I am not necessarily sure yellow is the direction that anyone of really interested in, rather than being a great moment that people could get behind.

02:27.192 --> 02:29.754
[SPEAKER_00]: I have been unable to take yellow seriously for,

02:30.952 --> 02:37.939
[SPEAKER_00]: a long time, even with a campaign of endless matches scattered through the last few years.

02:38.319 --> 02:42.524
[SPEAKER_00]: Like give him his respect, he shows up in the ring and does all these things.

02:42.964 --> 02:48.349
[SPEAKER_00]: But I just did not see him as the guy that needed to shepherd the future.

02:48.510 --> 02:50.732
[SPEAKER_00]: Immediately for that division,

02:52.433 --> 02:57.615
[SPEAKER_00]: And if he wins, great good for him, not really interested in it, and we'll see where it goes.

02:58.075 --> 03:02.456
[SPEAKER_00]: If he does it, I feel like we've squattered the opportunity of the Super Junior this year.

03:03.176 --> 03:05.457
[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't know where we go.

03:05.477 --> 03:10.119
[SPEAKER_00]: I will be here the entire time along the way trying to figure it out if it is.

03:10.639 --> 03:15.800
[SPEAKER_00]: But honestly, Steven, I'm in a good mood, but I'm just a mystified.

03:15.980 --> 03:19.501
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I don't, I don't seem to

03:21.807 --> 03:26.771
[SPEAKER_00]: the way the company is approaching, the way they want to get guys over.

03:27.712 --> 03:27.872
[SPEAKER_00]: And

03:29.030 --> 03:34.754
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't understand the idea of food you don't have losing this match to get him over more in the future.

03:34.774 --> 03:42.280
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, I don't understand giving you the win and the best of the super gingers.

03:42.720 --> 03:52.668
[SPEAKER_00]: If you're going all the way with him, because I don't think he's the guy you go all the way with, and if you, like, and if you have him lose, like, why, why him?

03:53.008 --> 03:57.432
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I just, all of it just does not seem to make sense.

03:59.621 --> 04:04.202
[SPEAKER_00]: The best taking come up with I swear is and I don't I don't know anything.

04:04.342 --> 04:06.183
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't I haven't talked to anybody about this.

04:06.263 --> 04:07.703
[SPEAKER_00]: I pretty much kept it quiet myself.

04:07.743 --> 04:09.464
[SPEAKER_00]: How it's all about all this.

04:10.504 --> 04:22.608
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like a reward in a thank you like you won this tournament for years of hard service and you've never really been the bell of the ball so we're going to give you the paddle back and give you this give you this thing and it's like.

04:25.088 --> 04:30.731
[SPEAKER_00]: If you guys were really doing years of great service at all that, you wouldn't have needed to give him this win in the first place.

04:33.633 --> 04:33.673
[SPEAKER_01]: If

04:34.741 --> 04:53.845
[SPEAKER_01]: startled me for sure because they went through this whole thing of Master Watto losing his first couple of matches, then going on the long winning streak, losing the June Kessai on the second to last night, and then having to win to get in on the last night, he overcomes all that.

04:53.945 --> 05:00.707
[SPEAKER_01]: Watto was the story in that block in that sense that he was driving to that finish right there.

05:02.103 --> 05:05.745
[SPEAKER_01]: And I laid out why he and Doki is such a fascinating thing last week.

05:06.586 --> 05:10.428
[SPEAKER_01]: They're intertwined all through their runs in New Japan, Pro Wrestling.

05:11.228 --> 05:27.197
[SPEAKER_01]: Robbie Eagles, one of the best junior heavyweight workers in the world, Kose Fujida, undeniable that unless this company bumbles things beyond all recognition possible, he is the future of the junior heavyweight division and possibly more than that.

05:28.712 --> 05:30.873
[SPEAKER_01]: Yo beats all of them, not Robby.

05:30.933 --> 05:33.794
[SPEAKER_01]: Robby didn't, Robby lost a fugitive in the semi-finals.

05:33.994 --> 05:36.015
[SPEAKER_01]: And we're going to get to what happened with Watto right there.

05:36.035 --> 05:40.277
[SPEAKER_01]: But yo, out of nowhere, meaning there was no buildup to this.

05:40.637 --> 05:41.458
[SPEAKER_01]: There were no hints.

05:41.918 --> 05:48.581
[SPEAKER_01]: Yo has spent the last three years as a second or third match comedy wrestler.

05:49.841 --> 05:53.343
[SPEAKER_01]: And he beats the guy with the richest story to go up against the champion.

05:53.743 --> 05:55.724
[SPEAKER_01]: And then the absolute future of the division.

05:56.937 --> 06:05.124
[SPEAKER_01]: Those two guys see beats, the midcard, low card, comedy, wrestler, not an untalented man, clearly.

06:05.885 --> 06:14.272
[SPEAKER_01]: And we'll get into some reasons why they may have gone with him that I don't think are good ideas, but might be, and I might be the point.

06:14.793 --> 06:16.534
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll talk about that when you close to the match.

06:17.755 --> 06:23.540
[SPEAKER_01]: It's the only thing I could think of, too, when I thought it's something, but as I look through all this though,

06:24.523 --> 06:27.285
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I had to think of something just to try to make any sense of it.

06:27.346 --> 06:40.177
[SPEAKER_01]: But again, a low card comedy wrestler beating the guy with the rich of story and the ace, the should be ace out of nowhere with no real buildup.

06:40.397 --> 06:51.467
[SPEAKER_01]: If you are that happy with you and you want to give him a reward for years of service to quote Don Draper and Madman, that's what the money's for.

06:53.622 --> 06:58.921
[SPEAKER_01]: Either ways don't wreck some of your best characters at box office draws.

06:59.973 --> 07:03.134
[SPEAKER_01]: So the whole thing is very confusing to me.

07:03.254 --> 07:06.135
[SPEAKER_01]: I have a small theory on why, perhaps, it's not a good one.

07:06.315 --> 07:07.516
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not a good reason.

07:07.756 --> 07:10.397
[SPEAKER_01]: But New Japan doesn't do a lot of things right these days.

07:10.437 --> 07:11.857
[SPEAKER_01]: So we're just going to stuck with it.

07:11.897 --> 07:20.721
[SPEAKER_01]: But this was very misifying to me that he was the guy that came out of that when all of the stories seem to be about the other three guys in the semi-finals.

07:21.441 --> 07:25.723
[SPEAKER_01]: If your reason for doing anything in pro wrestling is,

07:27.852 --> 07:30.913
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's do it because it's a surprise the people won't expect it.

07:31.613 --> 07:36.595
[SPEAKER_01]: Stop for a second and consider why the fans might not expect it.

07:37.696 --> 07:42.357
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not saying never, but one of the best ways to be wrong and wrestling is use words like always and never.

07:43.558 --> 07:47.739
[SPEAKER_01]: But think real hard, if you think well, the fans won't expect it.

07:47.919 --> 07:49.260
[SPEAKER_01]: Is there a reason they aren't expecting it?

07:49.900 --> 07:52.421
[SPEAKER_01]: And is that reason because they don't take the open particularly seriously?

07:53.681 --> 07:55.222
[SPEAKER_01]: Those are the people that have to pay to see them now.

07:56.348 --> 07:59.071
[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to get into the crowds and what happened right there.

07:59.152 --> 08:06.120
[SPEAKER_01]: But we did see some really strong crowds this past week, but you got to do things going forward.

08:06.140 --> 08:12.388
[SPEAKER_01]: And I just don't see yo and doke probably the least interesting matchup of any of those four.

08:13.578 --> 08:14.739
[SPEAKER_01]: And, and here we are.

08:15.319 --> 08:17.159
[SPEAKER_01]: So I want to say hello to Nick Reeves.

08:17.239 --> 08:18.120
[SPEAKER_01]: Nick is back.

08:18.140 --> 08:19.320
[SPEAKER_01]: We haven't seen Nick in a little while.

08:19.360 --> 08:20.441
[SPEAKER_01]: Jeremy is with us today.

08:20.481 --> 08:22.702
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm glad.

08:22.762 --> 08:23.722
[SPEAKER_01]: Maria Gracie Alessia.

08:23.742 --> 08:24.222
[SPEAKER_01]: This is here.

08:24.242 --> 08:24.502
[SPEAKER_01]: Good.

08:24.562 --> 08:24.782
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

08:24.822 --> 08:25.122
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

08:25.162 --> 08:26.623
[SPEAKER_01]: We've got some terrific people here.

08:28.364 --> 08:32.125
[SPEAKER_01]: So before we get into the Supergeum or semi finals, and then we'll talk about the finals.

08:32.685 --> 08:36.527
[SPEAKER_01]: That's where my head is on on you is that they perhaps they

08:37.387 --> 08:42.891
[SPEAKER_01]: picked him because, well, people would expect any of the others, but yeah, what does that tell you?

08:43.472 --> 08:44.412
[SPEAKER_01]: What does that tell you?

08:46.214 --> 09:00.004
[SPEAKER_00]: The thing that I keep going back to at the end of last week's show, we for all intents and purposes did the award ceremony submission for

09:03.469 --> 09:04.629
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll say any performance.

09:04.689 --> 09:09.770
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that next to Super Junior can all I was looking for the results officially on the website.

09:09.830 --> 09:13.731
[SPEAKER_00]: Cause I was going to remember who it was, who won what.

09:13.871 --> 09:18.533
[SPEAKER_00]: I basically it was, it was Eagle of Junkai and Dike and a guy.

09:18.593 --> 09:23.034
[SPEAKER_00]: I think in the same categories that we all picked them in in the show.

09:23.054 --> 09:27.295
[SPEAKER_00]: Like we went shot with the with the competitors on all these things.

09:28.115 --> 09:28.315
[SPEAKER_00]: But.

09:29.433 --> 09:35.537
[SPEAKER_00]: You think about that and you think about the way that they tried to give everybody shine in this.

09:36.037 --> 09:39.599
[SPEAKER_00]: And it was almost like instead of making sure they got one guy super over.

09:40.239 --> 09:47.464
[SPEAKER_00]: They did their best to get as many guys over in this tournament and let the audience like get behind who they wanted to get behind.

09:47.924 --> 09:54.648
[SPEAKER_00]: And if they fundamental misunderstanding, that this business is predicated on one single star.

09:55.248 --> 10:21.890
[SPEAKER_00]: And so you needed one single star in that division that you needed to make and I think we both know who that guy needed to be and they were so close to hitting the mark on what they needed to do, but they stumbled at the finish line and in all honesty if they wanted to have run back last year final, which they did with the exact same result, I would have been fine with that, but for whatever reason when they were that final like, oh shit, you know what I mean.

10:22.070 --> 10:27.353
[SPEAKER_00]: But that was my first, like, that was my first take when we got to that final, and we were watching that match.

10:27.433 --> 10:28.854
[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, oh, shit, you're winning.

10:28.894 --> 10:29.214
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

10:29.234 --> 10:29.594
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

10:29.614 --> 10:31.495
[SPEAKER_00]: We were over and over again.

10:31.936 --> 10:32.716
[SPEAKER_00]: And then he won.

10:32.816 --> 10:36.018
[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, well, let's see where we go from here, everybody.

10:37.259 --> 10:40.320
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I understand what you mean about having that feeling.

10:40.360 --> 10:43.102
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, oh, God, they're really going to do that, aren't they?

10:43.302 --> 10:48.085
[SPEAKER_01]: And my, again, cutting food should have off, you mentioned that.

10:49.785 --> 11:00.075
[SPEAKER_01]: They did that whole thing where Watto pulls through in Osaka and beats Kosei Fujita and then Fujita doesn't get his wind back, loses to yo in the finals.

11:00.175 --> 11:08.524
[SPEAKER_01]: To me, he's diminished coming out of that because again, it's another issue of somebody that the fans are within inches of caring about.

11:08.964 --> 11:11.106
[SPEAKER_01]: As a link top guy on their own.

11:12.047 --> 11:20.751
[SPEAKER_01]: And I know they were rooting against him, but those two different things, like the reactions to Fujita, the negative reaction to Fujita was because he was working as a heel and they went with it.

11:21.111 --> 11:24.012
[SPEAKER_01]: They're into this guy against you.

11:24.493 --> 11:29.915
[SPEAKER_01]: And again, cutting him off, making him look like a chop, he doesn't get his wind back over Watto in a rematch.

11:30.255 --> 11:31.376
[SPEAKER_01]: He doesn't win the tournament.

11:31.416 --> 11:33.377
[SPEAKER_01]: He won last year, so he takes a step back.

11:33.417 --> 11:35.137
[SPEAKER_01]: He can't win it every year, but never the last.

11:36.578 --> 11:48.701
[SPEAKER_01]: And Watel, holy crap, let's talk about these semi-finals because there was a story told here that I don't know, did Master Watel run over somebody's dog in the New Japan parking lot or something like that that everybody hates this dude.

11:49.281 --> 11:51.242
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's take a look at the Super Junior semi-final.

11:51.262 --> 11:58.563
[SPEAKER_01]: We are not going to talk about the rest of that, that, that, that morning card from, uh, Corrican Hall, the semi-finals.

11:58.764 --> 12:00.684
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, 90 minutes of a time.

12:00.784 --> 12:02.264
[SPEAKER_00]: Sob that we will never get back.

12:02.925 --> 12:03.605
[SPEAKER_01]: No, my Lord.

12:04.963 --> 12:05.643
[SPEAKER_01]: the semi-finals.

12:06.003 --> 12:07.084
[SPEAKER_01]: Food should have versus eagles.

12:08.224 --> 12:13.385
[SPEAKER_01]: Robby eagles, we're going to start with that one because that was the first one that happened and it kind of set us up.

12:14.146 --> 12:14.986
[SPEAKER_01]: You got his word earned it.

12:15.546 --> 12:15.986
[SPEAKER_01]: No, that's fine.

12:16.306 --> 12:21.668
[SPEAKER_01]: Eagles work the knee of Cosefus to the point that he was even punching the knee to get out of submission holes.

12:21.728 --> 12:22.748
[SPEAKER_01]: Fus should have battled through it.

12:23.088 --> 12:24.909
[SPEAKER_01]: He ended up hitting the thrill right to win.

12:26.104 --> 12:30.305
[SPEAKER_01]: It was good, but honestly, Jeremy, I thought this match would be better than it was.

12:30.865 --> 12:32.845
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think this hit on all cylinders.

12:33.245 --> 12:45.548
[SPEAKER_01]: And I was a little bit disappointed in this match and maybe it was because my expectations were too high because I was really ready for these two to have a big classic, but we didn't get that.

12:45.688 --> 12:50.369
[SPEAKER_01]: Both of these guys had better matches in block play than they did here against each other, which surprised me.

12:53.172 --> 13:06.317
[SPEAKER_00]: There's this thing with the faction mate matches sometimes where they almost don't fight as to the nail as they need to because they're because they're friend, but they both want to win.

13:06.557 --> 13:15.600
[SPEAKER_00]: And so that killer's edge that you really need to have in that semi final, it almost didn't exist in this match.

13:15.620 --> 13:17.861
[SPEAKER_00]: I want to say it did in the other one because even though

13:21.982 --> 13:26.686
[SPEAKER_00]: It just didn't, it just didn't, it just didn't, it just didn't more than that much than it in this one did.

13:27.166 --> 13:36.833
[SPEAKER_00]: And so, it doesn't seem like this is the last time that these two are going to wrestle, you know, like I think there is something that could happen.

13:37.133 --> 13:40.015
[SPEAKER_00]: Because, yeah, when they're in a position where they are,

13:41.653 --> 13:46.480
[SPEAKER_00]: in conflict with each other somehow, but they're gonna actual attention between them.

13:46.840 --> 13:49.945
[SPEAKER_00]: I think the match is gonna be a lot better between these two.

13:50.586 --> 13:53.430
[SPEAKER_00]: Like this felt like a championship at submission.

13:53.830 --> 13:55.473
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, you know what I mean?

13:57.122 --> 14:16.115
[SPEAKER_00]: The heat and energy that you need to have in these last three matches going into the finale and the best super junior really solidifies the effort of the entire tournament and I like the idea of the tag team partner both facing off against each other for the opportunity.

14:27.853 --> 14:32.895
[SPEAKER_00]: build the, I will do anything to beat you in this match.

14:32.955 --> 14:34.455
[SPEAKER_00]: Do you not understand that?

14:35.996 --> 14:38.276
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it just, to me, this just didn't click.

14:38.296 --> 14:39.077
[SPEAKER_01]: And Nick brings matches.

14:39.117 --> 14:44.338
[SPEAKER_01]: He felt the same way about Zack and OE, or when they've wrestled each other that there's just something a little bit missing from it.

14:44.418 --> 14:46.339
[SPEAKER_01]: It's, it's not to itself.

14:46.379 --> 14:50.100
[SPEAKER_00]: But they won't quit, but they, but they aren't put to the death of their matches.

14:51.405 --> 14:58.888
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't like they don't kneel, but like they're never really put in a position of like do or die when they're when they're each other

15:00.295 --> 15:16.460
[SPEAKER_01]: And it just didn't seem to have that much intensity to it, and this is either food to try to win his second straight or Robby trying to win the one thing that's eluded him, you know, and it's uh, it was puzzling to me that it didn't quite pan out that well, uh, there's no reason I don't think for the two of them to hold back.

15:16.700 --> 15:17.921
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't see that.

15:17.981 --> 15:22.102
[SPEAKER_01]: They will probably face each other in single smashes outside the tournament some day.

15:22.842 --> 15:24.888
[SPEAKER_01]: But I don't think it'll be soon.

15:25.209 --> 15:26.512
[SPEAKER_01]: So go ahead, wrestle.

15:26.733 --> 15:31.004
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, if you go ahead and wrestle each other try and go all out, but it didn't seem like they were here.

15:32.083 --> 15:34.505
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, the next one, so we have Fujita.

15:34.545 --> 15:36.547
[SPEAKER_01]: He's gone on, he hit through right and he won the thing.

15:36.607 --> 15:38.989
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, so Fujita was last year's champion.

15:39.269 --> 15:41.130
[SPEAKER_01]: You feel good about him going into the final again.

15:41.290 --> 15:45.414
[SPEAKER_01]: I would have been okay with Robbie as well, since the story is this his year and all that.

15:46.154 --> 15:47.215
[SPEAKER_01]: I was okay either way.

15:47.495 --> 15:55.422
[SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't a bad match, so I don't want to make it sound like I'm knocking these two like they had a bad one, but it just wasn't what I thought it could have been for two of the very best workers in the company.

15:56.327 --> 15:59.208
[SPEAKER_01]: Then we go to Watto and we go to yo.

15:59.609 --> 16:01.289
[SPEAKER_01]: This one built nicely to big moves.

16:01.309 --> 16:02.450
[SPEAKER_01]: There's another good match.

16:02.590 --> 16:04.191
[SPEAKER_01]: They were fighting in and out of the big moves.

16:04.791 --> 16:08.573
[SPEAKER_01]: And then without getting into the nuts and bolts of the whole thing, go ahead and watch it.

16:08.613 --> 16:08.993
[SPEAKER_01]: Good match.

16:09.693 --> 16:20.438
[SPEAKER_01]: But yo stays away from the Citacaco Suplex, the Suplex with a bridge that Watto has really turned into one nice finisher.

16:20.618 --> 16:22.279
[SPEAKER_01]: He's really made that move look good.

16:23.239 --> 16:32.564
[SPEAKER_01]: He avoids that, locks in an anaconda, and Nick Reeves, I'm gonna pull up one of Nick's comments because it encapsulates everything that I was going to say in this match right here.

16:33.164 --> 16:45.150
[SPEAKER_01]: He cutting off Watto's feel good story by losing to his tag team partner, while tapping out to his mentor's submission old, while his mentor's watching was diabolical.

16:46.051 --> 16:47.872
[SPEAKER_01]: I added a couple of flourishes in there, Nick, but

16:48.822 --> 16:50.544
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's a good analysis.

16:51.065 --> 16:51.425
[SPEAKER_01]: 10.

16:51.445 --> 17:04.402
[SPEAKER_01]: That was there after all that feel good stuff overcoming Fujida in Osaka coming up big in your home town after winning the match with all the pressure on it in the last day of walk action.

17:05.385 --> 17:10.048
[SPEAKER_01]: He taps out to his own mentor's hole, to his partner in front of the mentor.

17:10.368 --> 17:11.789
[SPEAKER_01]: What did this guy do to people?

17:12.409 --> 17:15.051
[SPEAKER_01]: But they make him look like such a child.

17:15.471 --> 17:19.033
[SPEAKER_00]: I like to have gone trippy mat to end with the crapping and the cornflakes.

17:19.793 --> 17:22.635
[SPEAKER_01]: My God, what did this guy do to people?

17:23.195 --> 17:25.377
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm just, it's very humiliating.

17:25.537 --> 17:30.740
[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't understand why they would cut off that story, like that.

17:30.800 --> 17:34.142
[SPEAKER_01]: And just have, again, it's a thing where just as,

17:35.515 --> 17:47.182
[SPEAKER_01]: people are beginning to get behind someone, New Japan almost without, without exception, makes them fail immediately, just makes them fail.

17:47.222 --> 17:51.785
[SPEAKER_01]: We've seen it a hundred times in the heavyweight division, and they've devastated it.

17:52.365 --> 17:56.488
[SPEAKER_01]: There's almost nobody in the heavyweight division that can draw a stick figure, let alone a crap.

17:58.009 --> 18:03.212
[SPEAKER_01]: Now they're working on the junior heavyweight division where anytime someone seems to get a little bit

18:06.345 --> 18:08.587
[SPEAKER_01]: just fail to a comedy guy.

18:09.167 --> 18:16.472
[SPEAKER_01]: And Yo is talented, but he has been intentionally portrayed as a comedy goofy wrestler for years.

18:17.553 --> 18:18.614
[SPEAKER_01]: And he's the one that wins it.

18:18.874 --> 18:19.454
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm Baffle.

18:19.634 --> 18:20.855
[SPEAKER_01]: I am absolutely Baffle.

18:21.195 --> 18:24.277
[SPEAKER_01]: The only thing I could think of Jeremy and we'll get to the finals in a second.

18:25.979 --> 18:29.561
[SPEAKER_01]: It is true that Yo is popular with female fans.

18:30.342 --> 18:30.662
[SPEAKER_01]: It's true.

18:32.170 --> 18:38.134
[SPEAKER_01]: The only thing I can think of as if they just said, the female fans have dropped off the cliff.

18:38.154 --> 18:42.937
[SPEAKER_01]: They used to joke that all the female fans went to New Japan and all the guys went to start them.

18:43.438 --> 18:46.540
[SPEAKER_01]: That's even been mentioned in a couple of backstage comments.

18:46.720 --> 18:51.063
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, you know, where all the women are here, the guys are over there watching start them, but all the women are here.

18:52.144 --> 18:53.065
[SPEAKER_01]: That's not true anymore.

18:53.105 --> 18:55.406
[SPEAKER_01]: If you look at the crowd, there has been a demographic change.

18:56.747 --> 18:59.009
[SPEAKER_01]: But it goes to your point earlier, Jeremy.

18:59.962 --> 19:21.438
[SPEAKER_01]: if he just wins this tournament as well here if they're logic is here's one for the ladies maybe they'll come back and we'll get to that crowd in order for Jim but if he doesn't win if he wants again fails you have done nothing to help that demographic that you're just giving him something and then yanking the rug out from under them again

19:28.944 --> 19:41.751
[SPEAKER_01]: his contract status, we speculated on this show, the Calum Numen got the nod, sort of as a reward for signing a longer term contract and to show potential other signings, hey, look what might happen.

19:41.791 --> 19:46.573
[SPEAKER_01]: If you signed a longer term contract, he was asking, is Yo signed long term?

19:47.394 --> 19:48.494
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't see where Yo going.

19:48.514 --> 19:52.096
[SPEAKER_00]: Where, where, what, where, what, he's a lifer.

19:53.197 --> 19:55.278
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's here, DDT with that, right?

19:55.458 --> 19:55.678
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

19:58.489 --> 20:08.292
[SPEAKER_00]: This was more like, I thank you for years of service, rather than like any political, like, oh, we're worried that yo might weave, you know, yeah, yeah, I agree.

20:08.312 --> 20:14.834
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just the thing is, you know, like, is this the thing where, well, he signed long term, so we're going to reward him.

20:15.274 --> 20:16.594
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not aware of anything like that.

20:16.654 --> 20:19.355
[SPEAKER_01]: I think most of the Japanese guys are still on year to year deals.

20:26.072 --> 20:49.897
[SPEAKER_00]: a month ago today actually like you did the press conference a month ago today he's going to have this last match on the 15th and make perfect sense for these two guys to do the 10th on trivia match you know show him his love given his props all of these things like I fundamentally did not have an issue with who won or lost this match because in my mind like it was either it was going

20:56.597 --> 20:57.818
[SPEAKER_01]: Does you have a story with food?

20:58.258 --> 20:59.759
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

21:00.320 --> 21:00.420
[SPEAKER_00]: No.

21:00.460 --> 21:03.702
[SPEAKER_00]: The story just feels like it's yo's time.

21:04.243 --> 21:09.667
[SPEAKER_00]: And like the old guy versus the young guy, like it's period versus like the upstart.

21:10.167 --> 21:23.156
[SPEAKER_00]: So like those were the things that I was trying to wrap around in my head between like yo because 37 versus what's 23 and all of these things like a lifetime of the experience and the ring versus the guy that won't quit

21:26.593 --> 21:28.434
[SPEAKER_00]: I wasn't particularly excited.

21:28.774 --> 21:40.962
[SPEAKER_00]: I just tried to figure out where the distance was for me as the guy watching all of these shows to be chapping about yo.

21:44.205 --> 21:48.230
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Jeremy Orgis says they know he'll be there's what I was thinking is the only thing he could think of.

21:48.271 --> 21:55.140
[SPEAKER_01]: Again, we're all just kind of struggling to make sense of this, the the counter to that one Jeremy or the obvious one is where the hell's water going to go.

21:55.340 --> 21:58.104
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, like neither one of these guys seem like they're going anywhere.

21:58.144 --> 21:59.666
[SPEAKER_01]: They seem like New Japan life first.

21:59.686 --> 22:00.968
[SPEAKER_01]: They've never really entered it leaving.

22:01.348 --> 22:01.548
[SPEAKER_01]: So,

22:02.802 --> 22:25.514
[SPEAKER_01]: it's baffling all of us like I said maybe they're trying to appeal to the female fans maybe this is just another example of them being too cowardly to back anybody full time and I that blows my mind just how non-committal they are to absolutely anyone and they're and their commitment to making anyone who gains a bit of momentum fail we saw it with sugy we've seen it

22:29.256 --> 22:50.862
[SPEAKER_01]: Showed to Umano has kind of has fallen off renderita and even try any more It has just been failure failure failure failure failure for all these guys in their big spots and now guess what low and behold no one's drawing money Devil advocate moment, okay, please Could this possibly

22:52.056 --> 22:57.063
[SPEAKER_00]: be leading to a fractional shift and split among on-time members.

22:57.123 --> 22:59.847
[SPEAKER_00]: You don't want to mean like, are they?

22:59.867 --> 23:07.658
[SPEAKER_00]: I want to introduce the possibility now that they are setting things up for later on by

23:10.023 --> 23:15.251
[SPEAKER_00]: Cinderella story, even the one not being the bell of the ball, and there are a lot of people in hauntie.

23:16.153 --> 23:23.805
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm just wondering, is there a possibility here where there is going to be people in hauntie that

23:25.300 --> 23:28.883
[SPEAKER_00]: based off of the way booking has gone in their minds.

23:28.923 --> 23:35.028
[SPEAKER_00]: They're like, my opportunities do not seem to be here with so many cooks in the kitchen, maybe I need to break off.

23:35.088 --> 23:44.155
[SPEAKER_00]: And there's a number of people that do so and just become different ideology, different methodology, something on the roster.

23:45.488 --> 23:45.988
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

23:47.048 --> 24:02.053
[SPEAKER_00]: When we try and sit here and think of what and why they're doing these things, you're creating a small division consistently among Hontai, among their own members, sometimes putting them in matches, some of them choosing to be with Aaron Wolves, some of them not choosing to be with Aaron Wolves.

24:02.653 --> 24:10.816
[SPEAKER_00]: There are little things here and there that you could create a dividing line, but if, like, I will put my back against the wall, I couldn't tell you all the things.

24:11.496 --> 24:20.260
[SPEAKER_00]: But I feel like there could be some deliberate decision-making that this is all trying to set something in motion for...

24:20.420 --> 24:28.243
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't believe that compellingly, but I'm introducing the possibility because I will feel foolish if I don't and that's what they end up doing.

24:29.023 --> 24:31.924
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, we've been grasping at straws with this company for a year now.

24:32.224 --> 24:34.846
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe more about some of the kind of thing.

24:35.366 --> 24:36.926
[SPEAKER_00]: And they'll click manifesting almost.

24:37.527 --> 24:38.047
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's...

24:39.229 --> 24:48.315
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, you would think so, but I don't think there's any evidence over the last 15 months that New Japan has any kind of long-term plan.

24:49.496 --> 24:50.456
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure they haven't seen it.

24:50.476 --> 24:53.518
[SPEAKER_00]: Like as long as the company was doing this, I did a problem.

24:53.538 --> 24:54.639
[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to be put up for sale.

24:54.939 --> 25:01.183
[SPEAKER_00]: They decided to just stay the courts and not do anything that would decrease the value of the company.

25:01.283 --> 25:03.885
[SPEAKER_00]: So it was almost like conservative booking.

25:04.591 --> 25:09.775
[SPEAKER_00]: to make sure that nothing went even more wrong than it needed to while they're shopping at around.

25:10.195 --> 25:16.300
[SPEAKER_00]: Like now that they've really announced that like yeah we were like a year to have back we're like we're looking into this.

25:16.840 --> 25:20.043
[SPEAKER_00]: Like you look at the book and you're like like wow sure seems safe doesn't it?

25:20.886 --> 25:25.910
[SPEAKER_01]: So now Yo goes on to Dominion to face Dokey for the Junior Heavyweight title.

25:26.110 --> 25:30.273
[SPEAKER_01]: And my point is this, that show I'm curious to see how it does.

25:30.573 --> 25:31.934
[SPEAKER_01]: It has not sold out.

25:32.334 --> 25:37.638
[SPEAKER_01]: Right now you can go in there and buy tickets to most of the sections in the arena.

25:38.399 --> 25:40.981
[SPEAKER_01]: Japanese ticketing doesn't work the same as Ticket Master.

25:41.001 --> 25:43.983
[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to get to later where you can actually see the dots.

25:44.483 --> 25:47.044
[SPEAKER_01]: as to what seats specifically are available on what aren't.

25:47.104 --> 25:48.144
[SPEAKER_01]: Doesn't quite work like that.

25:48.184 --> 25:50.365
[SPEAKER_01]: You got to pick a section and you get put in it.

25:51.285 --> 25:58.207
[SPEAKER_01]: Tickets are not available for the very expensive front section, those have sold for Dominion.

25:59.128 --> 26:01.268
[SPEAKER_01]: There is another, I believe floor seats are gone.

26:02.148 --> 26:03.289
[SPEAKER_01]: I believe floor seats are gone.

26:03.909 --> 26:05.429
[SPEAKER_01]: But you can buy seats in the arena.

26:06.290 --> 26:10.431
[SPEAKER_01]: And we don't know how many are available there, but this is not sold out.

26:11.071 --> 26:13.412
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a big building, a soccer show hall is a big arena.

26:15.038 --> 26:33.668
[SPEAKER_01]: If you are trying to sell tickets, dokey versus Fujina, dokey versus Robbie Eagles, dokey versus yo, I would put dokey versus yo, or Watto, I would put dokey versus yo, fourth on that list of matches that might draw fans, unless they are convinced that female fans will show up to see yo.

26:34.468 --> 26:35.349
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe that's the answer.

26:35.589 --> 26:37.670
[SPEAKER_01]: And maybe that is their reasoning.

26:38.691 --> 26:41.072
[SPEAKER_01]: I am having a hard time thinking about any else.

26:44.060 --> 26:45.921
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, we could beat the dead horse.

26:46.481 --> 26:46.741
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

26:46.821 --> 26:47.462
[SPEAKER_01]: You're right.

26:47.502 --> 26:49.523
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I just working for you.

26:49.543 --> 26:49.683
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

26:49.743 --> 26:57.147
[SPEAKER_00]: I think we both, I think we both have questions that have not yet been answered, but we're afraid of the answer when we get them.

26:58.722 --> 27:01.323
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, maybe that's true to all right.

27:01.363 --> 27:08.826
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, let's go to finals night because that one had a crowd at the new, what is it?

27:08.866 --> 27:12.127
[SPEAKER_01]: The E-barrow wave arena, it's older war gymnasium.

27:12.167 --> 27:17.490
[SPEAKER_01]: It's to say the building, the birthplace, New Japan's very first show was in that building way back in 1972.

27:17.910 --> 27:18.830
[SPEAKER_01]: I've been in that building.

27:18.910 --> 27:20.471
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a big basketball gym.

27:21.131 --> 27:23.732
[SPEAKER_01]: And but it's got themselves a title sponsor.

27:23.752 --> 27:25.873
[SPEAKER_01]: So they are the now the E-barrow wave arena.

27:26.953 --> 27:34.899
[SPEAKER_01]: and they drew Jeremy, 3,969, more than New Year's Dash, this is a terrific number.

27:35.079 --> 27:50.469
[SPEAKER_01]: And what I'll say about it is I feel like when we were recapping, best of the Super Junior's as it was developing, we would talk about how there's some terrific action on these things, especially with Block A and Block B had some interesting things,

27:54.451 --> 28:05.737
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it got some people excited, because we saw some of the weakest turnouts at Corrican Hall before the tournament started, and then strong turnouts at Corrican Hall all through best for the SuperGinders.

28:06.057 --> 28:11.659
[SPEAKER_01]: It seemed like people were ready to show up for the best of SuperGinders, and I don't think they were disappointed when they got there.

28:12.440 --> 28:12.680
[SPEAKER_01]: So,

28:13.956 --> 28:23.579
[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like most of those tickets were already sold before they knew who was going to be in the finals because the semi-finals were on a Friday and this show was Sunday.

28:23.619 --> 28:25.120
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think it was that much walk-up.

28:26.540 --> 28:30.341
[SPEAKER_01]: Odo Ward's not particularly hard to get up.

28:30.641 --> 28:32.742
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not in the middle of any big tourist area.

28:32.882 --> 28:35.223
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a bit of a hike, but it's not,

28:36.532 --> 28:40.414
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not difficult to get to, you know, I mean, you get off of the train station.

28:40.434 --> 28:43.456
[SPEAKER_01]: You take a bit of a walk, so there could have been a walk up.

28:43.496 --> 28:46.118
[SPEAKER_01]: You could just say, well, let's just go down to the arena and buy what's available.

28:46.138 --> 28:48.119
[SPEAKER_01]: But New Japan doesn't really work like that.

28:48.139 --> 28:49.580
[SPEAKER_01]: A lot of their tickets sell in advance.

28:49.600 --> 28:52.422
[SPEAKER_01]: So I think a lot of people were excited about finals night.

28:53.162 --> 28:55.464
[SPEAKER_01]: They had a big crowd at the older version.

28:55.824 --> 28:58.766
[SPEAKER_01]: And then Jeremy, that show is pretty good.

28:59.466 --> 29:03.169
[SPEAKER_01]: There's more energy from a lot of the people on it than we saw a lot of the time.

29:03.189 --> 29:03.389
[SPEAKER_01]: So,

29:04.710 --> 29:10.553
[SPEAKER_01]: To me, as I went through that night, leading up to the final match, I was kind of excited.

29:10.653 --> 29:12.414
[SPEAKER_01]: I just thought, okay, people are working hard.

29:12.935 --> 29:14.095
[SPEAKER_01]: They're seeing some good action.

29:14.215 --> 29:16.877
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a big crowd, and that crowd was fairly enthusiastic.

29:16.917 --> 29:21.019
[SPEAKER_01]: So, finals day itself was kind of a pick me up.

29:21.099 --> 29:24.141
[SPEAKER_01]: For me, how did you feel watching that show at Odo Ward?

29:25.948 --> 29:42.357
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, I was really happy to see a whole fan Tathmo and a couple of the other guys that I hadn't seen in a little while, you know, like, I kind of missed seeing hardly shit and I know it was on the other side of these things, but like you just it just felt like.

29:44.980 --> 29:52.922
[SPEAKER_00]: This felt like more complete in New Japan and then we were like, this was the show over and I'm like, all right, we got to do our stuff to get to show over for next week.

29:53.643 --> 30:04.066
[SPEAKER_00]: After like a lot of these guys not being on these cars with like the with the ender car being more like junior heavy for the last couple of weeks and

30:05.666 --> 30:23.837
[SPEAKER_00]: It felt like a breath of fresh air, but I'm also cognizant and aware that, you know, that nice feeling is vibes and there's a reality that, you know, some of the bills to come to these things aren't exactly a set in my world of fire.

30:24.377 --> 30:27.619
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and Nick Reeves says I would be very curious to see the walk-up numbers.

30:27.699 --> 30:31.021
[SPEAKER_01]: I would too, New Japan tends to do advanced.

30:32.958 --> 30:34.698
[SPEAKER_01]: I am also curious about the walk-up numbers.

30:34.718 --> 30:57.443
[SPEAKER_01]: My other thing about Otoward, my point on that was, yo-yo-gygimnasium, corticone hall, even civil hall, lesser extent, but still, are in touristy areas, meaning if you go there and the event is sold out, at least there's stuff to do around there, there is nothing to do in Otoward.

30:58.392 --> 30:59.653
[SPEAKER_01]: if that building is sold out.

31:00.133 --> 31:01.454
[SPEAKER_01]: There's nothing there.

31:01.834 --> 31:12.479
[SPEAKER_01]: That is a bedroom community what I mean by that is it's all big city it's all big city, but Oda is not a place with a bunch of restaurants and attractions and fun stuff to do it is.

31:13.685 --> 31:16.588
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, you can get Yoshinoa and walk back to the train station.

31:16.688 --> 31:22.555
[SPEAKER_01]: So I feel like most people would make sure they have tickets rather than end up in Ota and then not get into the building.

31:22.615 --> 31:23.496
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what you know what I mean?

31:24.217 --> 31:26.239
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe they weren't worried about it selling out and thanks.

31:26.259 --> 31:29.342
[SPEAKER_01]: But I went and knew Japan sells out a building.

31:29.463 --> 31:30.964
[SPEAKER_01]: They usually sell it out in advance.

31:31.024 --> 31:32.786
[SPEAKER_01]: You don't hear a whole lot about how

31:33.587 --> 31:37.250
[SPEAKER_01]: people turned up in the thousands and bought all the remaining tickets.

31:37.530 --> 31:38.952
[SPEAKER_01]: It just doesn't happen all that often.

31:38.972 --> 31:43.015
[SPEAKER_01]: So I feel like it's not that much Tokyo is not that much of a walk-up city.

31:43.255 --> 31:44.356
[SPEAKER_01]: I bet the suburbs are.

31:44.937 --> 31:52.964
[SPEAKER_01]: I bet when they go out to the other towns, I mean, not necessarily the suburbs, but go out to Negato or Nagano or A.M.A.

31:52.984 --> 31:55.786
[SPEAKER_01]: and all that stuff with those places aren't going to sell out.

31:55.866 --> 31:59.249
[SPEAKER_01]: I think people are happy to roll up to the gym and just buy tickets on the way in.

32:00.090 --> 32:06.932
[SPEAKER_01]: Tokyo, where you got to take a train to another part of the city, and I feel like you probably make sure you can get in the building before you do all that.

32:07.233 --> 32:10.414
[SPEAKER_01]: Just my thoughts, my psychology on that.

32:10.954 --> 32:14.075
[SPEAKER_01]: For instance, New York City, not a great walk-up town.

32:14.875 --> 32:19.917
[SPEAKER_01]: Just as, you know, people, if I'm going to go in the Manhattan, I'm going to make sure I gave tickets.

32:19.997 --> 32:20.597
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the type of thing.

32:21.178 --> 32:24.799
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, New York City is also not great for girls like that.

32:29.096 --> 32:29.757
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, shoot.

32:29.777 --> 32:30.877
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the sign code reference.

32:30.957 --> 32:33.979
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, geez, that's not made in New York City.

32:34.399 --> 32:35.680
[SPEAKER_00]: New York City.

32:35.780 --> 32:36.561
[SPEAKER_00]: Get a rope.

32:37.161 --> 32:44.165
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I thought you're doing the sign-filled thing where it was like something subtle about like, oh, whatever salsa that was, then like, Hey, Spacante.

32:44.666 --> 32:47.928
[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, because it not that one now burned into my brain ever.

32:47.948 --> 32:49.609
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to say New York City.

32:51.322 --> 32:58.145
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, well, you know, and next is I think Dominion builds suffers most years from the heavyweight being absent from the previous tour.

32:58.685 --> 33:00.926
[SPEAKER_01]: It's interesting, though, because that wasn't a problem.

33:01.207 --> 33:04.728
[SPEAKER_01]: It was true, but it wasn't a problem before the pandemic when the company was hot.

33:05.348 --> 33:13.732
[SPEAKER_01]: They were still drawing 11,000 or so for that thing, but I think it all has a lot more to do with the booking and who's the star and who isn't then the heavyweight's being gone.

33:14.533 --> 33:16.914
[SPEAKER_01]: I dreaded the heavyweight's coming back just because they've been

33:19.955 --> 33:22.538
[SPEAKER_01]: but today they had and believing.

33:23.119 --> 33:29.005
[SPEAKER_01]: The final day, you know, the final day in Cork and Hall, I just thought, oh, God, we're gonna have to deal with these guys again.

33:29.406 --> 33:32.289
[SPEAKER_01]: And semi-final night was not a good sign.

33:33.230 --> 33:39.417
[SPEAKER_01]: They were pretty lazy that night, but that crowd in order got them, at least some guys actually tried to run a little bit.

33:39.477 --> 33:40.058
[SPEAKER_01]: It was impressive.

33:40.892 --> 33:52.342
[SPEAKER_00]: One of the things that blew my mind about like the way that they booked the, the heavyweight is that they were so allergic to really letting guys win or lose.

33:52.983 --> 33:55.765
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I know they just, they would not do it.

33:56.065 --> 33:56.906
[SPEAKER_00]: And if this,

33:58.243 --> 34:03.566
[SPEAKER_00]: into this antithetical booking philosophy, and they don't lose, then they won't lose heat.

34:03.946 --> 34:09.508
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's like, no, like, you need to make the loss as matter, and you need to make the wind matter.

34:09.809 --> 34:13.070
[SPEAKER_00]: But you need to have singles matches so that those wins and losses matter.

34:13.750 --> 34:16.492
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm thankful because we are,

34:17.372 --> 34:28.603
[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly, a month away from the G1, where we're actually going to have the period of New Japan, where the Clinton law is supposedly matter inside of an insulated tournament.

34:29.624 --> 34:32.527
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, it's just going to affect like anything outside of that tournament.

34:32.547 --> 34:36.871
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, there are, I go, people are going to get their wind back, and whatever, and see you.

34:37.952 --> 35:06.811
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, thank our reset to the natural order, but and like at least we will have a pecking order of who is the wit like who is like the delineation of the the card of who are the top guys who aren't we're all going to get a reset here in the G1 because you know we're going to use that stay in the list and just be like the top guys now and the other ones that like because that what they have to do it really have to tell you but have to tell you who like the top all.

35:07.311 --> 35:13.695
[SPEAKER_00]: the Yoda, Yoda, Yoda, Yoda, Yoda, Yoda, all those guys have to be near the top of the each block, right?

35:14.195 --> 35:23.100
[SPEAKER_00]: And if you have 10 people in, and if they're not, and they're like the fifth or sixth place, you know exactly where you two values them going forward.

35:23.120 --> 35:23.500
[SPEAKER_01]: Do we?

35:23.540 --> 35:26.842
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you know was a bottom of the card guy until they won the game.

35:26.882 --> 35:27.783
[SPEAKER_01]: Man, just win this tournament.

35:28.323 --> 35:42.103
[SPEAKER_00]: And he still feels like, okay, the best way to put this is you know winning the best of the super Junior it doesn't feel like it elevated the best of the super Junior it feels like you know winning lower the best of the super Junior to me.

35:43.304 --> 35:53.250
[SPEAKER_01]: And Nick Reeves wants to say, he says, I wasn't referring to Dominion suffering from a money-drying perspective as much as the fused and the wrestler said are set up to show our cold way off and don't get a chance to belp, I think.

35:53.890 --> 36:01.495
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna push back on that a little bit again when they were drawing before the pandemic, they were drawing 11 or 12,000, superiors are in the exact same spot.

36:02.295 --> 36:06.698
[SPEAKER_01]: And they were off that tour and extreme example, yes.

36:08.245 --> 36:15.832
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, god of versus Omega didn't need anything because people were into it, and they were ready for it, and they were excited about it.

36:16.452 --> 36:28.063
[SPEAKER_01]: As some of the other things, like Naito and Tanahashi for the Intercontinental title, that had no trouble drawing despite best of the Super Junior's being the tournament or the tour before it because people were into it and they liked it.

36:29.150 --> 36:30.831
[SPEAKER_01]: if you book well, you're fine.

36:31.371 --> 36:39.334
[SPEAKER_01]: And there's historical evidence that if you book a show that people want to see, they show up for it, Dominion, even though Super Junior is always the run up to it.

36:39.394 --> 36:44.716
[SPEAKER_01]: So just to book your company well and the fans will show up for it.

36:45.017 --> 36:46.117
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think that's an excuse.

36:46.137 --> 36:51.779
[SPEAKER_01]: So I just don't because they've drawn over 10,000 in that building with good storylines.

36:51.919 --> 36:52.620
[SPEAKER_01]: And they've drawn,

36:54.340 --> 37:00.584
[SPEAKER_01]: 6,000 when they had half of that, when they've had stuff people don't really care about, and I'm curious to see which one we get this year.

37:01.504 --> 37:07.848
[SPEAKER_00]: I may be incurring the wrath of irony here, which I'll see at next week's show.

37:08.428 --> 37:11.169
[SPEAKER_00]: But there is exactly one act in 2026 in New Japan,

37:14.788 --> 37:24.177
[SPEAKER_00]: one consistently and the fans continue to get behind them and they get opportunity to cut promos about them winning and that is the knockout broke.

37:25.038 --> 37:31.864
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's almost like it's almost like they're from another planet like they're being booked totally differently than anyone else on the card.

37:32.144 --> 37:38.210
[SPEAKER_01]: They are easily the most successful act in the company and yet the company does not try to replicate it with anyone else.

37:38.350 --> 37:48.814
[SPEAKER_00]: you're not seeing the weapons to be learned in the whatsoever because they are allergic to putting too much power in the hands of one individual on the top of the economy.

37:49.515 --> 38:02.400
[SPEAKER_00]: Yoda Suji, for all of his intensive purposes of trying to act like a leader, I think really shit the bed when he did his whole, we are not playing cards, we are people kind of speech because

38:03.464 --> 38:22.458
[SPEAKER_00]: The reality is that they didn't need to take the belt off of it, but there is a sense of to me, and I don't have anything to to prove this, but there is a sense to me if them taking that belt off of him to cool him off because they didn't like the way he was presenting himself in contrast to the company and it did not hold man's.

38:23.098 --> 38:28.623
[SPEAKER_00]: And I can see something like that where they're like, well, maybe you aren't the guy after all, and unless the fan really

38:29.303 --> 38:32.826
[SPEAKER_00]: like have a ground flow, which I don't know if they are not.

38:33.207 --> 38:35.789
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe he doesn't end up being the guy that they go with long-term.

38:36.129 --> 38:42.135
[SPEAKER_00]: These are all things that I'm wrapping in my head trying to figure out why I haven't they go on with one guy at a goal.

38:42.435 --> 38:43.776
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not even parody booking.

38:43.896 --> 38:45.778
[SPEAKER_00]: It is allergic to matches booking.

38:46.852 --> 38:48.533
[SPEAKER_01]: and it's cutting off your nose despite your face.

38:48.573 --> 38:54.376
[SPEAKER_01]: Again, the whole thing is, if you want a punter surgery, find him, do something, do something behind the way, but killing his push.

38:54.656 --> 39:05.561
[SPEAKER_01]: When he was actually starting to get over Rupert, they put him over on national television on wrestling the week, and then just to say, oh, I don't like something you said in a promo, so we are going to kill all that momentum.

39:05.821 --> 39:06.761
[SPEAKER_01]: That is your business.

39:07.262 --> 39:09.863
[SPEAKER_00]: And to be, to be clear, that's what happened.

39:10.043 --> 39:11.644
[SPEAKER_00]: But if you can connect the dog, it could

39:15.145 --> 39:32.942
[SPEAKER_01]: use him make him a star so in the tickets and find him if you got a problem with it take the money back that way don't don't make it so that the company never gets it in the first let's by killing off a guy that draws okay let's talk about this card though because there's there's some interesting things on this so the very first match on the car we're going to go through match my match on this you haven't done that in a while

39:35.084 --> 39:44.732
[SPEAKER_01]: go to Revolutionary Army, go to Matsumoto and Yoshihashi, get a win over Tiger Mask, Tai say Nakahara and Masatura, Yasada.

39:44.772 --> 39:48.094
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, not much of this on Boston Crab finished on Nakahara.

39:48.155 --> 40:01.205
[SPEAKER_01]: The only thing reason I bring this up is that they keep mentioning pretty consistently now to the point that it's on purpose that Yasada is almost two years into his career and it's time for him to go to the next stage, whatever that may be.

40:04.127 --> 40:09.049
[SPEAKER_01]: In two years, I don't think Master Toriasa has made any impression on me whatsoever.

40:09.670 --> 40:10.570
[SPEAKER_00]: Impression or impact?

40:12.031 --> 40:14.132
[SPEAKER_01]: Either one, I just don't think about it.

40:14.352 --> 40:18.874
[SPEAKER_01]: He is the personification about Fujer, who was saying about Wato, I was like, I don't really think about him at all.

40:20.375 --> 40:22.276
[SPEAKER_01]: I think about him, well, what faction would he go into?

40:22.356 --> 40:23.216
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't care.

40:23.656 --> 40:24.657
[SPEAKER_00]: Are you calling him vanilla?

40:26.955 --> 40:29.896
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm calling him mediocre so far, as a young one.

40:30.736 --> 40:32.857
[SPEAKER_01]: He's been surpassed by a guy by a long shot.

40:33.297 --> 40:36.378
[SPEAKER_01]: I would say I'm more interested in watching Matt's a motor wrestle than him.

40:37.158 --> 40:40.579
[SPEAKER_01]: Even though Matt's a motor is well behind him, I just don't think this guy's got to hold on.

40:41.599 --> 40:42.499
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think he's bad.

40:43.520 --> 40:46.400
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think that's not bad, but that's different from being a star.

40:48.561 --> 40:55.083
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think that there's anything especially detrimental to anything that he does.

40:56.339 --> 40:58.441
[SPEAKER_00]: but I would use the word unremarkable.

40:59.222 --> 41:01.825
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because the guy has developed a personality.

41:02.305 --> 41:06.930
[SPEAKER_01]: Matsumoto is developing a personality and certainly Fusgeta did.

41:07.932 --> 41:10.274
[SPEAKER_00]: And a color-like buffatory needs to be behind a mask.

41:11.015 --> 41:11.916
[SPEAKER_00]: Look at Tiger Mask.

41:13.024 --> 41:14.826
[SPEAKER_01]: See, I think that's going to be contoh if they do it.

41:15.506 --> 41:17.669
[SPEAKER_01]: I think he's too big to be a tiger mask anyway.

41:17.689 --> 41:19.130
[SPEAKER_01]: He's too big.

41:19.210 --> 41:20.792
[SPEAKER_01]: He's not a junior.

41:21.052 --> 41:22.393
[SPEAKER_01]: But, and I just don't see that.

41:22.473 --> 41:24.435
[SPEAKER_01]: But anyway, maybe I'm wrong.

41:24.535 --> 41:25.516
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll see what they do with him.

41:25.676 --> 41:26.377
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

41:26.417 --> 41:27.038
[SPEAKER_00]: Like you're not.

41:27.752 --> 41:43.337
[SPEAKER_00]: You're not wrong with the analysis that you have and that's we're kind of here to like say anything not in a like crappy you're a bad wrestler but more like hey this is just a flaw in the game and if you don't correct it it's going to be hard moving forward watching you progress.

41:44.004 --> 42:09.856
[SPEAKER_01]: like there's no there's no personality to it like we know you don't knock a sheema before he was you know ice we kind of knew what he was about we don't know what yes it is about i don't feel like he's made any kind of impression from personality wise or or anything else okay have you been over and no have you been watching no and all recently no not really no i'm wondering how would it brother uh real scary i think uh in how you do and with uh with

42:13.107 --> 42:13.767
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

42:13.787 --> 42:14.288
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not sure.

42:15.148 --> 42:20.430
[SPEAKER_01]: The United Empire, Akira, Jake Lee and Jacob Austin, young faced Elfantasmo, Jato and Shota Umano.

42:20.490 --> 42:20.831
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

42:21.511 --> 42:24.472
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, Lee choked out Jato for the finish, but that wasn't even the point.

42:25.073 --> 42:29.755
[SPEAKER_01]: Afterwards, Elfantasmo went after Jake Lee, but the United Empire beat him down.

42:30.575 --> 42:36.218
[SPEAKER_01]: Akira and Young hold a metal chair in front of the L.P's face in the corner and Lee clobbered him with a running boot.

42:37.645 --> 42:44.746
[SPEAKER_01]: Jeremy, this looks suspiciously like they are trying to get some heat, which we're not used to in New Japan.

42:45.987 --> 42:52.768
[SPEAKER_01]: I like this and that it was just two guys who rub each other the wrong way in a match and it goes a little bit too far now they have to fight.

42:53.088 --> 42:58.049
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the start of how decent fiends happen sometimes.

42:58.089 --> 43:01.970
[SPEAKER_00]: So I mean, they don't know if you have to speed run it and I'm okay with the speed running the fish.

43:02.621 --> 43:10.805
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and by the way, if anyone can get, you know, if he might be a good person to get something out of Jake, right, he might be a good person to get something out of Jake's room.

43:11.025 --> 43:17.208
[SPEAKER_00]: I've enjoyed Jake, if the midcard towering buffoon with a little bit of edge to him.

43:17.648 --> 43:21.449
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, me too, but I think Fantasmok can really make the best of him.

43:21.529 --> 43:23.911
[SPEAKER_00]: He's going to get ragged on, and it's going to look great.

43:24.511 --> 43:27.872
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it doesn't matter who wins or who this is the match.

43:28.453 --> 43:29.113
[SPEAKER_00]: You're in mean like,

43:29.813 --> 43:49.370
[SPEAKER_00]: It really doesn't and it'll be a fun match and so like yeah speed run the few give up two guys to have skin in the game and they have a match and then Then you whatever run it back in the g one way or like I can totally see these guys having a match and then one of them wins and then they're both in the same block in the g one and you have the same action Maybe the game guy went again or

43:52.404 --> 43:54.126
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, so after that, we had master water.

43:54.166 --> 44:04.896
[SPEAKER_01]: Reusuke Taguchi, Daisuke Sasaki, Nick Wayne, Valante Jr. against Dike and a guy, ghetto, Robbie X, stage, and Shimori Teton, and all skate basically for the guys that didn't make the playoffs here.

44:05.577 --> 44:06.758
[SPEAKER_01]: This was a really fun match.

44:06.818 --> 44:08.380
[SPEAKER_01]: Everyone got a little bit of shine here.

44:08.480 --> 44:12.163
[SPEAKER_01]: Everybody except ghetto and Taguchi, thank goodness, did dives to the outside.

44:13.004 --> 44:26.410
[SPEAKER_01]: And then get it went to Gucci finished up with to Gucci winning with a mankel lock 10 minutes 25 seconds and because there were so many people in it so many good people and it's so many people that were Exciting I really enjoyed the match.

44:26.490 --> 44:31.893
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought this was a fun little exhibition of junior heavyweight wrestling is this was your college a party match, Steven.

44:32.638 --> 44:33.839
[SPEAKER_01]: I liked it.

44:33.879 --> 44:42.084
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought it did exactly what it should have done, which is a bunch of wows and a bunch of ooze and Oz spots without anyone having to do too terribly much.

44:42.544 --> 44:49.068
[SPEAKER_01]: And you had like nine guys to land on when you do your spots on average when you have a 10 minute match in 10 guys.

44:49.368 --> 44:50.929
[SPEAKER_00]: Everyone gets the shot for one minute each.

44:52.629 --> 44:53.409
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, exactly.

44:53.429 --> 44:54.130
[SPEAKER_01]: I know him blows up.

44:54.150 --> 44:57.231
[SPEAKER_01]: So next, says, I've seen some Ryu say and no, Ryu say, that's his name.

44:57.531 --> 44:59.832
[SPEAKER_01]: And he's very green, but at least they're letting him work a lot.

44:59.872 --> 45:04.333
[SPEAKER_01]: They say he trained in NJPW a few years ago with his brother, but seems like he stopped for a few years.

45:04.633 --> 45:11.596
[SPEAKER_00]: There's a story there and I don't want to repeat it because I think I got, I don't, I'm a little fuzzy on the details.

45:12.216 --> 45:14.697
[SPEAKER_00]: Because I wanted to really inspecting it to come up in all that stuff and all.

45:14.977 --> 45:20.079
[SPEAKER_00]: But there was 100% of story about his brother training in the dojo and then not.

45:21.840 --> 45:22.160
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

45:22.180 --> 45:23.161
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, we'll get all that straight.

45:23.201 --> 45:25.022
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe we'll report back on that one time comes.

45:25.062 --> 45:26.783
[SPEAKER_01]: So we do want to.

45:26.823 --> 45:36.389
[SPEAKER_00]: If I remember what we'll double back at some point, but there definitely there's definitely something to that story and I just don't remember what it was.

45:36.509 --> 45:38.390
[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't want to get it wrong.

45:39.224 --> 45:50.708
[SPEAKER_01]: So after the fun AllScape match, we had a tag team match with show and Yoshinobu kind of Maru against Elvis Brotto and Heo, and talk about a colossal waste of Elvis Brotto.

45:50.728 --> 45:52.948
[SPEAKER_01]: They stuck him in this crap.

45:53.668 --> 46:03.712
[SPEAKER_01]: He won with a pinch of Loco afterwards, Bishaman and Taguchi helped Heo get his damn stuffed animal back, puts an end to the whole saga, and as far as I'm saying, what a waste

46:09.179 --> 46:15.464
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure the fans of Dragon Gate enjoy you a lot and I think they should continue to do so for the foreseeable future.

46:16.304 --> 46:19.426
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's just send this guy back to Kobe and Dragon Gate.

46:20.402 --> 46:22.624
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't need to see that God dang stuffed animal anymore.

46:23.365 --> 46:23.965
[SPEAKER_01]: Enough of you.

46:24.806 --> 46:37.877
[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you for the one where like they almost walked away with it and then Hauntai all came to the rescue and they got the cat back and you know, his journey in New Japan for the moment has concluded.

46:37.897 --> 46:38.658
[SPEAKER_01]: That's horrible.

46:38.878 --> 46:39.639
[SPEAKER_01]: That's horrible.

46:40.279 --> 46:41.841
[SPEAKER_00]: Once up, let's get cat.

46:41.941 --> 46:43.202
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so.

46:45.883 --> 46:53.450
[SPEAKER_00]: Has there ever been more of a guy just hanging out in New Japan doing whatever than L. Desparado in 2026?

46:53.990 --> 47:05.000
[SPEAKER_00]: But you've just, like, you've just, doing matches, just checking off boxes, just got a crazy match next week that like, came out of nowhere, but just feast or fancy.

47:05.020 --> 47:09.284
[SPEAKER_00]: And you just, you'd like the plug-in play like Junior Heavyweight?

47:09.764 --> 47:11.546
[SPEAKER_01]: No, I'm sorry, what does feast or fancy mean?

47:13.485 --> 47:15.249
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what you're saying.

47:15.269 --> 47:16.611
[SPEAKER_01]: When you find to say, piece of famine.

47:17.253 --> 47:18.175
[SPEAKER_00]: Piece of family, yeah.

47:18.195 --> 47:18.736
[SPEAKER_00]: Piece of family.

47:18.756 --> 47:19.217
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

47:19.517 --> 47:20.479
[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, we can jump.

47:20.519 --> 47:20.840
[SPEAKER_00]: We can jump.

47:20.860 --> 47:21.421
[SPEAKER_00]: Because we can't.

47:23.060 --> 47:24.260
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, all right, all right.

47:24.280 --> 47:25.601
[SPEAKER_01]: Feast your face.

47:25.621 --> 47:26.321
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I got to do it.

47:26.341 --> 47:31.363
[SPEAKER_00]: It's so fast that I was like I was like and heard that one before.

47:31.383 --> 47:32.203
[SPEAKER_01]: I was like wait a minute.

47:32.263 --> 47:43.306
[SPEAKER_00]: I think he could have got to give the yellow But you know that's that's a walker isn't that's something Walker would say that was that's one the walker would bungle right there But you I don't go go fast you stop me in my trap like what huh?

47:43.746 --> 47:45.047
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, no, no, there was a

47:46.577 --> 47:48.760
[SPEAKER_01]: Nick, remember how this day one of the token on this year?

47:48.780 --> 47:49.020
[SPEAKER_01]: Sure.

47:49.220 --> 47:50.322
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, that's just a match.

47:50.882 --> 47:53.846
[SPEAKER_00]: Just another match that all of it.

47:53.886 --> 47:56.049
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just, you just haven't matches.

47:56.229 --> 47:56.690
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

47:57.270 --> 48:04.860
[SPEAKER_00]: And like, if you're rebuilding, don't you want death be to really be like, a cornerstone to get the younger guys over.

48:05.966 --> 48:06.306
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

48:06.386 --> 48:07.547
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, yes.

48:07.967 --> 48:08.247
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, they.

48:08.267 --> 48:08.487
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

48:08.688 --> 48:09.488
[SPEAKER_01]: What is he doing?

48:09.628 --> 48:11.429
[SPEAKER_01]: He's not doing anything.

48:11.469 --> 48:17.072
[SPEAKER_01]: He's wrestling with a guy with he's wrestling with a guy who's his entire persona that he's in love with the stuff animal.

48:17.152 --> 48:17.913
[SPEAKER_01]: What is desperate?

48:17.933 --> 48:21.355
[SPEAKER_00]: We got juggatory and Nick Wade making out what other shows.

48:21.395 --> 48:25.397
[SPEAKER_01]: How, how is, how is Despae doing that and yo was winning the tournament?

48:25.457 --> 48:26.638
[SPEAKER_01]: What, what is going on?

48:27.642 --> 48:33.264
[SPEAKER_00]: I just, that was like participation award, you know, so you just, if you're turned, thank you for your service.

48:33.304 --> 48:38.986
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I'm trying to wrap my head around all of these things and it's just the thing that I'm coming back to.

48:39.006 --> 48:42.087
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, if just a good soldier moment.

48:42.848 --> 48:44.928
[SPEAKER_01]: It's, it really is like they mixed up.

48:44.948 --> 48:46.189
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what they did with their own desk.

48:46.249 --> 48:46.629
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

48:47.445 --> 48:57.110
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, he won the New Japan Cup, and it was basically like a thank you for your service kind of like accolade that they did it for and get end up winning the title and nothing like that.

48:57.171 --> 49:00.572
[SPEAKER_00]: And that was basically it for him through the, you know what I mean?

49:00.592 --> 49:02.734
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, is it feel the same?

49:02.754 --> 49:03.894
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

49:04.275 --> 49:04.435
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

49:04.455 --> 49:05.575
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, it's, it's baffling.

49:05.915 --> 49:09.678
[SPEAKER_01]: Next says I really thought they were building the foods that are finally beating Despey in the playoffs of this tournament.

49:09.878 --> 49:13.900
[SPEAKER_00]: There's another story that they did maybe in a game like the point here.

49:14.630 --> 49:16.111
[SPEAKER_01]: he says, I gave them too much credit.

49:16.191 --> 49:16.911
[SPEAKER_01]: I know we all did.

49:17.412 --> 49:17.852
[SPEAKER_01]: We all did.

49:18.072 --> 49:26.398
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, the next man, the next match was Tai Chi and you hit Uemura, teaming with Kushita to face Hartley Jackson, Robbie Eagles, Rio.

49:26.438 --> 49:28.539
[SPEAKER_01]: Hey Uemura, I had to mention this one thing.

49:28.939 --> 49:39.506
[SPEAKER_01]: We joked around how like a feast or fancy is something like like one of the things that Walker would say when he's bungling his phrases, did you hear him say that there is no

49:45.079 --> 49:46.721
[SPEAKER_01]: There's no big a tree between them.

49:46.741 --> 49:48.183
[SPEAKER_00]: Why would there be a tree between them?

49:48.904 --> 49:52.989
[SPEAKER_01]: Walker says a lot of words in English, but he doesn't know what a lot of a meme.

49:54.083 --> 49:58.945
[SPEAKER_01]: And he managed to say, for some reason, he said, there's mutual respect, no bigotry to go.

49:58.965 --> 49:59.785
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm glad to hear that.

50:00.365 --> 50:00.766
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm glad.

50:00.946 --> 50:03.126
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank goodness there's no bigotry between two Japanese guys.

50:03.146 --> 50:03.687
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm glad to hear that.

50:03.747 --> 50:06.988
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank goodness there's no bigotry between two Japanese guys.

50:07.208 --> 50:07.588
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

50:08.869 --> 50:11.470
[SPEAKER_01]: But hey, he probably works cheap.

50:11.770 --> 50:12.050
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

50:12.650 --> 50:14.431
[SPEAKER_01]: This match completely forgettable.

50:15.671 --> 50:19.773
[SPEAKER_01]: They are trying to talk us into the idea that OEMOIR versus OEMOIR was a thing.

50:20.788 --> 50:21.648
[SPEAKER_01]: nobody gives a crap.

50:22.449 --> 50:23.909
[SPEAKER_01]: This gets nothing from the fans.

50:24.249 --> 50:28.950
[SPEAKER_01]: And not only that, Jeremy, once again, neither one of them figures into the finish.

50:29.871 --> 50:32.191
[SPEAKER_01]: The finish is Taichi rolling up partly.

50:32.211 --> 50:33.972
[SPEAKER_00]: Jack, they're allergic.

50:35.932 --> 50:36.233
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

50:37.073 --> 50:39.433
[SPEAKER_01]: We're a can't get his hand raised in this.

50:39.494 --> 50:40.754
[SPEAKER_01]: He can't be the guy that

50:44.898 --> 50:49.020
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, neither one of them figures in, these guys are the future, they're not the future.

50:50.201 --> 50:51.862
[SPEAKER_01]: You way more is the future son-up.

50:52.242 --> 50:53.663
[SPEAKER_01]: That is absolutely the case.

50:54.363 --> 51:01.767
[SPEAKER_01]: A charismatic black hole who can't talk and can have decent wrestling matches, but we'll never get above mid-up regard.

51:02.328 --> 51:04.349
[SPEAKER_01]: That's you, you way more, I'm out on him.

51:05.189 --> 51:08.211
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, we what has slightly more potential, but you know what?

51:08.271 --> 51:09.852
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, we what can't talk with the crap either.

51:10.737 --> 51:11.800
[SPEAKER_01]: And so this was fine.

51:11.820 --> 51:18.319
[SPEAKER_01]: It was very forgettable, but again, you know, that they are desperately trying to convince us that we will versus we more a matters and it's clear it doesn't matter.

51:19.303 --> 51:32.390
[SPEAKER_00]: I was gonna put it back and like, well, you know, it definitely really feel like the direction here is we were in Yoda Fuji and we were in the title, but we also had Sonata winning the title and it failed.

51:32.810 --> 51:34.291
[SPEAKER_00]: It did not work out great.

51:34.771 --> 51:45.917
[SPEAKER_00]: And so like there are a worth of caution here that you may end up being Ozzy Mandia looking at your old throne or just a throne of ruins.

51:47.539 --> 51:49.501
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, I hope that's not the case.

51:49.982 --> 52:02.458
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm still a believer in Ui Mura and I, there is two things that I go back to when I'm thinking about the direction of Nutspan.

52:02.478 --> 52:05.181
[SPEAKER_00]: One is that the,

52:06.417 --> 52:14.320
[SPEAKER_00]: directions that the company is giving the wrestlers for their character and storylines and views is lacking.

52:15.000 --> 52:15.760
[SPEAKER_00]: That's number one.

52:16.280 --> 52:29.665
[SPEAKER_00]: But number two, the effort and nature of compelling belief that the men are in views that they have to win and they want to be the best in New Japan.

52:30.578 --> 52:44.733
[SPEAKER_00]: Like I feel like they're their promos are all about appealing to the fans and to giving them a good show and to being the best that they can be rather than I am here to win and I hope that you are along the way with me as I be everyone.

52:46.957 --> 52:52.121
[SPEAKER_01]: It's unbelievable how bland OE1, OE1, OE1 are on the microphone constantly.

52:52.201 --> 52:53.703
[SPEAKER_01]: They have nothing to say.

52:54.123 --> 52:58.247
[SPEAKER_00]: You told me like four months ago, OE1Mura had two promos.

52:58.527 --> 53:02.710
[SPEAKER_00]: And I've been paying very close attention, and you're not wrong, man.

53:02.751 --> 53:04.152
[SPEAKER_01]: He just kind of is too kind of wrong.

53:04.272 --> 53:04.732
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not wrong.

53:05.073 --> 53:07.014
[SPEAKER_01]: And OE1 might not have to.

53:08.455 --> 53:09.556
[SPEAKER_01]: He might just have the word.

53:09.576 --> 53:10.817
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I mean, he looks at all the time.

53:10.857 --> 53:13.420
[SPEAKER_00]: So we've all got to, I'm going to do this every year.

53:13.880 --> 53:14.681
[SPEAKER_01]: That's a fair point.

53:14.741 --> 53:17.224
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, maybe if he actually wins a bash, we'll hear what the other one is.

53:17.324 --> 53:17.804
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

53:19.277 --> 53:32.544
[SPEAKER_01]: But here's the thing, at least Umano comes up with something, two guys who are capable talkers could probably find something here and pull something out of this feud, why a feud.

53:32.564 --> 53:33.264
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not a feud.

53:33.544 --> 53:34.445
[SPEAKER_01]: They're wrestling each other.

53:34.465 --> 53:35.465
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the other thing.

53:35.485 --> 53:36.506
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not a feud.

53:36.726 --> 53:38.827
[SPEAKER_01]: They just wrestling each other all the time.

53:39.047 --> 53:42.289
[SPEAKER_01]: Chris Charlton is trying to do Yomans work here, trying to convince us that this matters.

53:42.889 --> 53:43.850
[SPEAKER_01]: If these guys were

53:44.956 --> 53:51.180
[SPEAKER_01]: mediocre at promos, they could probably come up with some reason that they have to beat the other one.

53:51.260 --> 53:52.521
[SPEAKER_01]: And that is driving him crazy.

53:52.762 --> 53:54.002
[SPEAKER_01]: But they're not capable of that.

53:54.283 --> 54:00.207
[SPEAKER_01]: Neither one of them is clever enough, neither one of them is charismatic enough to come up with a reason that they even want to face each other.

54:00.647 --> 54:03.349
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's just this thought, this doll thought.

54:03.609 --> 54:07.272
[SPEAKER_01]: And then the company doesn't help matters at all because they put them in the match and they're not factoring

54:14.092 --> 54:14.392
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

54:14.973 --> 54:17.874
[SPEAKER_00]: Next after that we were now we're here.

54:17.934 --> 54:18.775
[SPEAKER_01]: Boy, it doesn't get better.

54:18.855 --> 54:26.779
[SPEAKER_01]: Aaron Wolf, Jun Kasi, and Toru Yano, which I did think it was funny that Chris Charles and just said, this is just New Japan set on random for this team.

54:27.419 --> 54:31.001
[SPEAKER_01]: Against Dictogo, Ren Nareda, and Yuzuro Takahashi, good Lord.

54:31.081 --> 54:32.642
[SPEAKER_01]: It was okay when Dictogo was in.

54:33.002 --> 54:34.423
[SPEAKER_01]: Thankfully, it only went seven minutes.

54:35.583 --> 54:38.705
[SPEAKER_01]: Nareda's and Yuzuro are both boring and lazy.

54:39.545 --> 54:43.188
[SPEAKER_01]: Aaron Wolfe is still green, Kassai is Kassai.

54:43.228 --> 54:44.088
[SPEAKER_01]: He got something out of it.

54:44.729 --> 54:46.130
[SPEAKER_01]: Angleslam on Dictogo.

54:48.031 --> 54:54.215
[SPEAKER_01]: Again, this did zero to make you more excited about Renner Reed of Versus Aaron Wolfe at Dominion, right?

54:54.235 --> 55:01.580
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, this couldn't have sold another tick.

55:01.600 --> 55:04.382
[SPEAKER_00]: I have not had a soda that flat is this match.

55:04.422 --> 55:06.583
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm talking about?

55:06.663 --> 55:06.683
[SPEAKER_00]: I

55:08.924 --> 55:14.089
[SPEAKER_00]: I look at that dipping in card man and he's that match if it even like second to the top of the card.

55:14.369 --> 55:14.709
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

55:14.909 --> 55:16.951
[SPEAKER_00]: They don't even have confidence in that match.

55:17.372 --> 55:19.574
[SPEAKER_00]: They're putting their put in that match on TV.

55:19.854 --> 55:20.895
[SPEAKER_00]: It's gone taped away.

55:21.215 --> 55:21.696
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?

55:21.736 --> 55:23.677
[SPEAKER_00]: Like they're going to have one match ready to go.

55:23.878 --> 55:27.901
[SPEAKER_00]: And then they're going to queue up the other match and it's going to be these two matches.

55:28.021 --> 55:32.345
[SPEAKER_00]: And Oh, they

55:33.250 --> 55:54.082
[SPEAKER_00]: They have convinced themselves that they just need 10 good minutes from Aaron Wolf every six bunk to put on TV a saw he and they can just skate for the rest of the time and they might be right, but it is a painful song for everyone who has committed to watching it along the way because I don't know, man.

55:55.923 --> 55:57.444
[SPEAKER_01]: It's difficult with ready to just die.

55:58.570 --> 56:02.253
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, evil, evil got something out of him, but Rennery to ain't evil.

56:02.313 --> 56:04.495
[SPEAKER_01]: Rennery to it's a low effort, low talent guy.

56:04.756 --> 56:07.758
[SPEAKER_01]: And this is just not, you know, it doesn't vote well.

56:08.419 --> 56:12.503
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure it'll be choreographed within an inch of its life and probably overbooked within an inch of its life.

56:12.603 --> 56:17.928
[SPEAKER_00]: Do you, but do you think it can be more how to torture or do you think that, I don't know, I don't know.

56:17.968 --> 56:18.468
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

56:18.488 --> 56:21.271
[SPEAKER_00]: It's just going to be Aaron Wolft of beating his ass like it is slosh.

56:21.591 --> 56:24.658
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, if you think they did a squash, I think that would actually be interesting.

56:25.039 --> 56:25.520
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.

56:25.741 --> 56:28.607
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, because they basically squash wolf.

56:29.590 --> 56:31.091
[SPEAKER_01]: when Narita took the title from.

56:31.151 --> 56:43.421
[SPEAKER_01]: So if you portrayed this, and this is where they could have started it, if they had screwed over Wolfe or done some damage to Wolfe and Wolfe tears apart the barricades on the way back to the arena, I'm going to kill this freaking guy.

56:43.701 --> 56:45.562
[SPEAKER_01]: And then he goes and actually does it?

56:45.902 --> 56:47.984
[SPEAKER_01]: You might have something that the fans would get behind.

56:48.284 --> 56:50.926
[SPEAKER_01]: He should go in there and mole these guys down like grass.

56:51.547 --> 56:58.012
[SPEAKER_01]: And it should have started here with them doing something awful to him and pissing Wolfe off beyond all belief.

56:58.760 --> 56:59.801
[SPEAKER_01]: They do absolutely nothing.

57:00.162 --> 57:13.399
[SPEAKER_01]: There's no heat going into this really, but yes, if Wolf goes through and does the opposite of what they did were what Narita beat him in a couple of minutes to take the title and he goes through and turns them all in the sour crowd.

57:14.123 --> 57:18.024
[SPEAKER_01]: then the fans might actually look at just go, oh, okay, that was fun.

57:18.144 --> 57:21.285
[SPEAKER_01]: Good, you know, we like seeing how the torture get the crap kicked out of him.

57:21.345 --> 57:22.565
[SPEAKER_01]: That could be something.

57:22.865 --> 57:25.566
[SPEAKER_01]: If they tried to turn this into a 10 minute match, God help us with all of us.

57:26.046 --> 57:42.690
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, if they were to do a squash and then they throw another match on the cart and the main event, I could get real behind that on the TV, saw he broadcast, but I feel like their plan is those two matches for filling two hour worth of content, and I'm not entirely sure

57:45.071 --> 57:51.861
[SPEAKER_01]: And Nick matches it to, and we'll get to your comment about soon as you let me get to the match there Nick, he says wolf has been feuding with house torture for eight months now.

57:52.081 --> 57:54.364
[SPEAKER_01]: The only thing he's ever done, it's feuding with house torture.

57:54.404 --> 57:56.967
[SPEAKER_01]: The only thing he's ever done, it's been going on about a year now.

57:57.188 --> 58:00.813
[SPEAKER_01]: Before he even debuted, does it feel like he actively dislikes them?

58:02.875 --> 58:10.279
[SPEAKER_01]: Not really, but sometimes, sometimes he actually gets up a little bit of steam in a promo, but rarely, but it's a fair point.

58:10.580 --> 58:17.304
[SPEAKER_01]: And we'll get to what you're saying about Calum Newman and Susie right now because it's a point that I wanted to make too would bring up.

58:17.384 --> 58:21.046
[SPEAKER_01]: So, all right, we know that that one's got, doesn't have a whole lot on it.

58:21.066 --> 58:28.871
[SPEAKER_01]: The next match was the other Susie teaming with the only overact in the company, Oscar and Yuto Ice, and they face Calum Newman, Great O'Conan, Zayn J.

58:29.915 --> 58:36.359
[SPEAKER_01]: Suji beat St. Jay basically by spiking him like a football, not a bad looking move actually, the way he does it right there.

58:36.519 --> 58:37.399
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no.

58:37.800 --> 58:40.401
[SPEAKER_01]: But again, this added nothing to the title match.

58:40.481 --> 58:46.104
[SPEAKER_01]: There was barely a confrontation between Suji and Newman and Nick brings it up here.

58:46.504 --> 58:53.268
[SPEAKER_01]: He said, doesn't even feel like Suji and Calam hate each other as they go into the movement of the number two show of the year.

58:53.348 --> 58:55.730
[SPEAKER_01]: No, Suji seems perfectly content.

58:56.510 --> 58:57.870
[SPEAKER_01]: to just walk down to the ring.

58:57.930 --> 58:59.031
[SPEAKER_01]: He doesn't look mad.

58:59.371 --> 59:02.672
[SPEAKER_01]: He doesn't look motivated that last time I met this guy.

59:02.732 --> 59:04.492
[SPEAKER_01]: I got humiliated and lost my belt.

59:04.872 --> 59:06.553
[SPEAKER_01]: And I have to beat this guy to take it back.

59:06.873 --> 59:09.054
[SPEAKER_01]: He seems non-plus about the whole thing.

59:09.334 --> 59:12.235
[SPEAKER_01]: And Newman is very casual as well.

59:12.675 --> 59:16.056
[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't even blame Newman this, hey, last time I beat this guy.

59:16.116 --> 59:17.356
[SPEAKER_01]: It's on him to beat me now.

59:18.216 --> 59:19.317
[SPEAKER_01]: But sushi just doesn't

59:24.631 --> 59:28.654
[SPEAKER_01]: was there ever an indication that, oh, this is the main event.

59:28.914 --> 59:31.235
[SPEAKER_01]: This is the match I got to go to Osaka to see.

59:31.476 --> 59:34.598
[SPEAKER_01]: I defy you to come up with anything in this match that makes you feel like that.

59:35.738 --> 59:37.179
[SPEAKER_00]: No, there wasn't anything like that.

59:37.259 --> 59:45.065
[SPEAKER_00]: And even more so when Yoda's good you was getting beaten down, like even at home, teammate, we're just like frustrated with him.

59:45.125 --> 59:48.567
[SPEAKER_00]: Like I could watch, Oscar, and you know, I was like, what are you doing, dude?

59:49.407 --> 59:54.812
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like he's, it's like he is a little bit demoralized by the last human and not in character.

59:55.032 --> 01:00:07.603
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like he has kind of checked out a little bit since he looked, they took both belts away from, he made all those proclamations about what he was going to do with the titles and then he lost both of them right away, made him look like such a chunk.

01:00:08.263 --> 01:00:14.649
[SPEAKER_01]: Even if he wins this thing back at Dominion, he's damaged a little bit and it'll help winning it back and all that and

01:00:17.451 --> 01:00:21.474
[SPEAKER_01]: At this point, he does seem like, well, I'm not putting myself out there for all this.

01:00:22.135 --> 01:00:23.836
[SPEAKER_01]: It's kind of his attitude, I've been a little bit.

01:00:24.437 --> 01:00:28.240
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I... That's kind of a long-to-for-all apparel, like, I think.

01:00:28.380 --> 01:00:28.660
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:00:29.020 --> 01:00:34.204
[SPEAKER_00]: I understand what they need to do with the O2QG, but I'm not even sure he'd get in the belt back at Dominion.

01:00:35.005 --> 01:00:37.147
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I don't know.

01:00:37.667 --> 01:00:41.490
[SPEAKER_01]: It feels like back and forth they do with, that they did with AJ.

01:00:42.030 --> 01:00:44.012
[SPEAKER_01]: It just, it feels a little bit like that to me.

01:00:44.514 --> 01:00:54.799
[SPEAKER_00]: This upper midcard match, selling the main event for next week, really just felt like it gave me pause for the main event for next week.

01:00:55.860 --> 01:01:05.644
[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't know, man, I'm just very tempted about the few hidden neutropan at this exact moment.

01:01:07.205 --> 01:01:10.087
[SPEAKER_01]: After this match was the best of the Super Junior finals and it was a good match.

01:01:10.107 --> 01:01:11.627
[SPEAKER_01]: And the crowd was really behind you.

01:01:11.787 --> 01:01:12.668
[SPEAKER_01]: They do seem to like him.

01:01:14.086 --> 01:01:16.368
[SPEAKER_01]: Yo continues this thing about doing other people's moves.

01:01:17.048 --> 01:01:18.589
[SPEAKER_01]: And there was a lot of submission work here.

01:01:18.830 --> 01:01:27.796
[SPEAKER_01]: And a fugitive is getting pretty good at that ZXA Virginia style of changing his submission hold or modifying it every few seconds.

01:01:27.836 --> 01:01:29.297
[SPEAKER_01]: He's he's getting really good at that.

01:01:30.278 --> 01:01:34.261
[SPEAKER_01]: And there were a couple of really good submission spots in this one crowd was into the kickouts.

01:01:43.127 --> 01:01:47.129
[SPEAKER_01]: They pop for for two he ended up hitting direct drive to win the thing.

01:01:47.189 --> 01:01:51.772
[SPEAKER_01]: We meant we've already talked to death about whether it's smart booking or bad booking.

01:01:52.692 --> 01:01:57.035
[SPEAKER_01]: This was a good match and the fans did like it and there were almost 4,000 people there.

01:01:57.655 --> 01:02:06.800
[SPEAKER_01]: So we mentioned some of the stuff, you know that like the young bound company united empire match with Newman, Ocon and Zane and all that that wasn't a bad match.

01:02:07.461 --> 01:02:12.245
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, the House Church stuff was a bad match, but Tai Chi and U.E.O.A.

01:02:12.265 --> 01:02:13.306
[SPEAKER_01]: mora and T.M.B.K.

01:02:13.326 --> 01:02:17.269
[SPEAKER_01]: They were some good wrestling in that one, and a little more energy than usual for those.

01:02:17.389 --> 01:02:19.391
[SPEAKER_01]: It just, again, the booking was off.

01:02:20.392 --> 01:02:30.460
[SPEAKER_01]: I feel the same way about this, like the people that showed up because I think that Super Junior's had some momentum, and I think they bought tickets to the final saying, I kind of want to see how this turns out.

01:02:31.601 --> 01:02:33.602
[SPEAKER_01]: They decided that they were going to get behind you.

01:02:34.562 --> 01:02:36.343
[SPEAKER_01]: And maybe a lot of them were already behind you.

01:02:36.704 --> 01:02:37.784
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe, maybe we'll see.

01:02:38.365 --> 01:02:40.246
[SPEAKER_01]: But they enjoyed it.

01:02:40.266 --> 01:02:43.589
[SPEAKER_01]: They also enjoyed had fun booing Jose Fujida.

01:02:43.669 --> 01:02:48.252
[SPEAKER_01]: He got good heelish heat when they started tonight.

01:02:48.972 --> 01:02:50.654
[SPEAKER_01]: They said he struts around.

01:02:50.694 --> 01:02:51.394
[SPEAKER_01]: He smurks.

01:02:51.895 --> 01:02:53.636
[SPEAKER_01]: He kind of looks like an arrogant little jerk.

01:02:54.536 --> 01:02:56.458
[SPEAKER_01]: And the crowd went with that.

01:02:56.538 --> 01:02:57.839
[SPEAKER_01]: So the crowd did pop.

01:03:00.057 --> 01:03:01.097
[SPEAKER_01]: there was something to that.

01:03:01.377 --> 01:03:07.259
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think most of the people that went to the show ended up enjoying the show itself, which is a good sign I suppose.

01:03:07.759 --> 01:03:10.259
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm curious to see where it leads is all I'm saying.

01:03:10.499 --> 01:03:12.720
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not sure if Fujita losing was the right choice.

01:03:13.380 --> 01:03:18.421
[SPEAKER_01]: But in that moment right there, the people did seem to like yo winning.

01:03:18.461 --> 01:03:24.783
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, whether they turned up for his title shots or if he wins, if they turned up for him as champion, all off into the future.

01:03:25.063 --> 01:03:26.543
[SPEAKER_01]: But for a night,

01:03:31.345 --> 01:03:38.332
[SPEAKER_00]: This is the epitome of great for the moment, not sure about the future, in terms of the booking.

01:03:38.752 --> 01:03:45.238
[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, I've laid out my frustration with all of the right at the top of the show, is that, like,

01:03:48.677 --> 01:03:49.578
[SPEAKER_00]: Where do you go from here?

01:03:49.878 --> 01:04:03.249
[SPEAKER_00]: And why, why the lack of urgency for really just putting over one guy or the younger talent rather than making sure that you've shown love to everyone before it to late?

01:04:03.790 --> 01:04:09.414
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's not what they're talking about, it's not what they're talking about.

01:04:09.434 --> 01:04:12.116
[SPEAKER_01]: Their job is to sell tickets, jobs to sell tickets.

01:04:12.637 --> 01:04:14.639
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's what that is what the money is for.

01:04:14.659 --> 01:04:16.100
[SPEAKER_01]: If you like someone so much, give them a raise.

01:04:17.438 --> 01:04:24.780
[SPEAKER_00]: Joe is one of the best wrestlers on the roster that I can't take seriously.

01:04:27.261 --> 01:04:27.421
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:04:27.441 --> 01:04:39.025
[SPEAKER_00]: So I just, he come out and his sense of character and personality does not convey main of that in his division, let alone in the company.

01:04:39.765 --> 01:04:45.787
[SPEAKER_00]: And when you are building divisions and you are building stars,

01:04:47.358 --> 01:04:53.121
[SPEAKER_00]: you need them to come off as start and larger than life.

01:04:53.582 --> 01:04:56.824
[SPEAKER_00]: And Yoda's not come off as larger than life in the correct way.

01:04:56.884 --> 01:05:05.468
[SPEAKER_00]: He comes off and larger than life as the guy that you see at the carnival, rather than where you see at the big show.

01:05:06.009 --> 01:05:09.931
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't really know how to put it other than he dev not rise to the moment.

01:05:10.998 --> 01:05:16.262
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, Esteban is here, USVA guy, Vladimir here, and he has something to say, and there's his area of expertise here.

01:05:16.282 --> 01:05:17.463
[SPEAKER_01]: He says the fans are into y'all.

01:05:17.663 --> 01:05:20.605
[SPEAKER_01]: The merch numbers in history with y'all can't be underestimated.

01:05:21.005 --> 01:05:24.608
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, and you could hear that the crowd were into him.

01:05:24.628 --> 01:05:28.791
[SPEAKER_01]: And I know that he has a female demographic that not very many wrestlers and New Japan has.

01:05:28.851 --> 01:05:30.533
[SPEAKER_01]: That shouldn't be discounted fair enough.

01:05:31.293 --> 01:05:35.654
[SPEAKER_01]: If they go with him, if he loses to Doki, it just cuts everybody off at the knees again.

01:05:35.914 --> 01:05:48.478
[SPEAKER_01]: And now, Watto has failed in a big spot, Fujin has failed in a big spot, and Yo has failed in a big spot, which would be on par for New Japan booking to make everybody look like a yes when it comes to the big moment.

01:05:48.558 --> 01:05:52.620
[SPEAKER_01]: However, if they put him over and they make him the 100th champion and

01:05:54.217 --> 01:05:55.397
[SPEAKER_01]: then we will see if he draws.

01:05:55.977 --> 01:05:57.058
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll see if he sells tickets.

01:05:57.898 --> 01:06:01.479
[SPEAKER_01]: He hasn't really been put into positions to do so yet.

01:06:01.579 --> 01:06:02.979
[SPEAKER_01]: So maybe that's the answer.

01:06:02.999 --> 01:06:05.380
[SPEAKER_01]: But if he loses to Doki, none of it means anything.

01:06:06.340 --> 01:06:06.720
[SPEAKER_01]: Hold up.

01:06:08.020 --> 01:06:09.981
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, go back to that comment one more time.

01:06:10.001 --> 01:06:11.261
[SPEAKER_00]: Can you pull that up for me one more time?

01:06:11.281 --> 01:06:11.861
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, sure.

01:06:11.901 --> 01:06:12.441
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:06:12.541 --> 01:06:13.182
[SPEAKER_01]: There it is.

01:06:13.262 --> 01:06:13.782
[SPEAKER_00]: Again, yeah.

01:06:14.102 --> 01:06:14.262
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:06:14.282 --> 01:06:17.102
[SPEAKER_00]: Merchamberton the year in the history of the O cannot be underestimated.

01:06:17.403 --> 01:06:18.763
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not going to argue any of that.

01:06:19.812 --> 01:06:27.839
[SPEAKER_00]: what I am going to say is it is completely irrelevant if that is negligible or changes with him winning the best of the super juniors.

01:06:28.539 --> 01:06:36.726
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, like when you do that, do you expect more merchandise to now be like going in your direction?

01:06:36.986 --> 01:06:38.467
[SPEAKER_00]: How does this help the company?

01:06:38.768 --> 01:06:40.249
[SPEAKER_00]: If that going to do these things?

01:06:40.950 --> 01:06:52.629
[SPEAKER_00]: Or would it have been better to just stay at that level with him and keep him strong by going into the finals and doing well and his merch and his fandom will be

01:06:53.782 --> 01:07:06.618
[SPEAKER_00]: and crack with the same, but you've then built another guy whose merch and fandom could be equal if not greater by beating you in the and creating a separate fandom for that.

01:07:07.138 --> 01:07:12.565
[SPEAKER_00]: These are the things that I'm weighing in my mind when you are using that as evidence like, yeah, no, that's all well and good.

01:07:13.537 --> 01:07:18.522
[SPEAKER_00]: but does it change any business for you or the company if he had won or lost?

01:07:19.203 --> 01:07:24.489
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think it would have, but I think it would have changed business for the company if the other guy had it.

01:07:25.209 --> 01:07:30.715
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, we'll see, and what's interesting about it, though, is we're gonna get to the Dominion preview in just a bit.

01:07:31.216 --> 01:07:33.598
[SPEAKER_01]: So we're kind of doing the Batman match now.

01:07:34.825 --> 01:07:38.307
[SPEAKER_01]: If yo loses, again, it doesn't really mean much of anything.

01:07:38.767 --> 01:07:45.590
[SPEAKER_01]: If he beats Tokyo, we might actually find out if yo moves tickets, which is different than merchandise merchandise helps.

01:07:46.070 --> 01:07:47.871
[SPEAKER_01]: That's money, that money spends.

01:07:48.571 --> 01:07:57.856
[SPEAKER_01]: But if he moves tickets, we might actually find out because these days they are having the junior heavyweight title, junior heavyweight tag team titles on that.

01:07:58.736 --> 01:08:01.657
[SPEAKER_01]: other night than a lot of these big events, right?

01:08:01.937 --> 01:08:03.558
[SPEAKER_01]: It's the week before or something.

01:08:03.578 --> 01:08:21.523
[SPEAKER_01]: So we may well see yo defend the junior heavyweight title on a show at cortico and hall or a show and she's woke up or even outside of, you know, around Osaka or something like that where we will see if he draws.

01:08:22.042 --> 01:08:28.250
[SPEAKER_01]: Is it bigger than a regular house show because they they thought it did with this for out of when sometimes it did when they had the right match up.

01:08:29.973 --> 01:08:36.461
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not if it turns out that he can sell more tickets than they were selling before and they made the right decision.

01:08:36.702 --> 01:08:38.464
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just curious to see I.

01:08:40.190 --> 01:08:56.297
[SPEAKER_01]: Like you Jeremy, I'm a little skeptical that this guy that's been a low-card comedy guy is ready to just step in and be a ticket drawing champion versus someone who does so, you know, some merchandise on a call basis.

01:08:56.497 --> 01:08:57.698
[SPEAKER_01]: Nothing wrong with selling merchandise.

01:08:57.718 --> 01:08:58.818
[SPEAKER_01]: Like I said, that money spends too.

01:08:59.119 --> 01:09:04.001
[SPEAKER_01]: But let's just see if he's actually a draw in, who would have a choice, take a chance, go.

01:09:04.081 --> 01:09:06.002
[SPEAKER_01]: Which is what they need to sell tickets.

01:09:06.242 --> 01:09:07.562
[SPEAKER_01]: God, this company needs to sell tickets.

01:09:07.662 --> 01:09:08.083
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean,

01:09:08.995 --> 01:09:10.657
[SPEAKER_00]: ticket for cold for this show, man.

01:09:10.737 --> 01:09:11.758
[SPEAKER_00]: He will be a main event.

01:09:12.078 --> 01:09:14.240
[SPEAKER_00]: So what I'm trying to look for is.

01:09:15.922 --> 01:09:21.928
[SPEAKER_00]: Any any advertisement on social media about like tickets or if the ticket were already like pretty much.

01:09:23.095 --> 01:09:25.376
[SPEAKER_00]: snapped up before they knew who the finals were.

01:09:25.637 --> 01:09:30.219
[SPEAKER_00]: That's my point, that's the part where I really just kind of want to.

01:09:30.759 --> 01:09:33.801
[SPEAKER_00]: I can't say for sure right now and I was just trying to dig through.

01:09:34.562 --> 01:09:37.483
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so three days before that show.

01:09:37.563 --> 01:09:43.767
[SPEAKER_01]: Three days before the finals at Oto Ward, no one had any idea that was going to be in that main event.

01:09:43.847 --> 01:09:45.748
[SPEAKER_01]: And I bet a lot of those tickets were already sold.

01:09:45.768 --> 01:09:47.469
[SPEAKER_01]: But again, we don't know what the walk up is.

01:09:47.729 --> 01:09:49.030
[SPEAKER_01]: They don't release that kind of information.

01:09:49.110 --> 01:09:53.333
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you know, all you see is the final result, and it was good.

01:09:53.433 --> 01:10:00.277
[SPEAKER_00]: The total sentence, you know, like credit recruited to do again, I cannot reiterate this enough.

01:10:00.837 --> 01:10:12.004
[SPEAKER_00]: Yo is a fantastic wrestler that I have the hardest time taking seriously, and that is completely due to the way that he has carried himself on every single show that I have watched on

01:10:16.741 --> 01:10:31.209
[SPEAKER_00]: Again, let me underline, it's exceptional wrestler, but the character work that he has committed to to being his most authentic self has not conveyed a main event aura.

01:10:31.829 --> 01:10:33.970
[SPEAKER_00]: And that is simply what I'm trying to say.

01:10:35.021 --> 01:10:38.963
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's take a look at that Dominion card then because you and Dokey matches part of it.

01:10:38.983 --> 01:10:39.963
[SPEAKER_01]: We've already previewed that one.

01:10:39.983 --> 01:10:42.164
[SPEAKER_01]: So we're going to jump off the jump ahead on that.

01:10:42.444 --> 01:10:44.986
[SPEAKER_01]: But let's take a look at the rest of the Dominion card.

01:10:45.006 --> 01:10:47.907
[SPEAKER_01]: I think what Jeremy will start with the opener and then just go right through the main.

01:10:48.567 --> 01:10:48.947
[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, man.

01:10:48.967 --> 01:10:50.228
[SPEAKER_00]: I got to set up that with doing it.

01:10:50.712 --> 01:10:52.893
[SPEAKER_01]: Konosuke Takeshta against Sanada.

01:10:52.953 --> 01:10:57.274
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, interesting match up here, because we haven't seen Sanada in a very long time.

01:10:58.134 --> 01:11:02.176
[SPEAKER_01]: And there was a documentary that was put out where they talked a little bit about it.

01:11:02.416 --> 01:11:06.097
[SPEAKER_01]: It was interesting and what it said, but more interesting for what it didn't say to me.

01:11:06.877 --> 01:11:14.000
[SPEAKER_01]: And Konosuke Takeshta taking on Sanada for the NJPW TV, the NJPW world TV title.

01:11:15.341 --> 01:11:32.489
[SPEAKER_01]: uh, I mean, to catch to this poor guy, they give him this title and then they give him usual chase Owens and Sonata, whose body, last we saw him was utterly shot and couldn't do anything physically anymore in the ring to the point that he had to take all these months off.

01:11:32.589 --> 01:11:34.530
[SPEAKER_01]: We don't know that Sonata is healed.

01:11:34.930 --> 01:11:37.791
[SPEAKER_01]: It said all these things like his arms turned into pipe cleaners.

01:11:37.831 --> 01:11:38.892
[SPEAKER_01]: We all watched that happen.

01:11:39.392 --> 01:11:40.614
[SPEAKER_01]: He said later that he would.

01:11:40.654 --> 01:11:44.238
[SPEAKER_01]: He was having trouble brushing his teeth without pain because of all the nerve damage.

01:11:44.538 --> 01:11:48.503
[SPEAKER_01]: What that thing didn't say, Jeremy, is that he has improved at all.

01:11:49.284 --> 01:11:51.366
[SPEAKER_01]: And then that condition has improved.

01:11:51.607 --> 01:11:52.287
[SPEAKER_01]: We don't know.

01:11:52.368 --> 01:11:53.369
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll see what we get.

01:11:54.090 --> 01:11:56.593
[SPEAKER_01]: The Sonata we saw last was horrendous.

01:11:57.462 --> 01:11:58.102
[SPEAKER_01]: awful in the ring.

01:11:58.682 --> 01:12:00.323
[SPEAKER_01]: And Takeshda can only do so much.

01:12:00.443 --> 01:12:11.767
[SPEAKER_01]: And I really think they're wasting Takeshda by putting him in with guys who physically can't work anymore for most of this title reign instead of having good matches, which is what Takeshda was doing until this reign.

01:12:11.827 --> 01:12:15.988
[SPEAKER_01]: So more confusing booking, but it's not a versus Takeshda to open it.

01:12:17.250 --> 01:12:21.992
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I'm definitely curious as to what Sonata we're gonna get.

01:12:22.092 --> 01:12:35.679
[SPEAKER_00]: Hopefully, in a fusion of technical plus what his limitations are, rather than just waiting full into the house of torturness of what he was doing the last time around, which kind of thinking what we're gonna get.

01:12:36.599 --> 01:12:44.763
[SPEAKER_00]: And we're gonna get more of the to catch it a win, but it's because he now has

01:12:47.780 --> 01:12:48.021
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

01:12:48.241 --> 01:12:49.604
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's take a look at what's second measure.

01:12:51.988 --> 01:12:55.511
[SPEAKER_01]: Second match is L Fantasmo against Jake Lee.

01:12:55.551 --> 01:13:00.014
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, I'll give New Japan a little bit of credit for putting some steam on this one a little bit anyway.

01:13:00.614 --> 01:13:07.720
[SPEAKER_01]: And we already talked a little bit about this before where I think that Fantasmo is the right guy to get something out of Jake.

01:13:08.060 --> 01:13:10.482
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm not as down on Jake Lee as others.

01:13:10.622 --> 01:13:11.342
[SPEAKER_01]: I never have been.

01:13:11.422 --> 01:13:14.745
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't think he was a world champion, but I thought it could be an entertaining part of the card.

01:13:15.425 --> 01:13:16.766
[SPEAKER_01]: This is the kind of stuff I mean.

01:13:17.026 --> 01:13:18.167
[SPEAKER_01]: He can do this kind of stuff.

01:13:22.163 --> 01:13:26.807
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, middle of the card, like low mid card, whatever, he's not in the main of that.

01:13:26.867 --> 01:13:31.410
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, he's not challenging for the global title and he's not challenging for the IDWGP.

01:13:31.710 --> 01:13:41.718
[SPEAKER_00]: He simply does not have that aura or uh, uh, work rate about him right now, but I don't know, man.

01:13:41.738 --> 01:13:44.901
[SPEAKER_00]: He feels like he's a more entertaining version of Great O'Con, the Great O'Con is.

01:13:45.961 --> 01:13:47.643
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, it's also no DQ, correct?

01:13:48.617 --> 01:13:50.739
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, I, yeah, it doesn't look like it.

01:13:50.839 --> 01:13:54.102
[SPEAKER_00]: There's a little like dash thing in there and then I got these.

01:13:54.302 --> 01:13:54.663
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

01:13:54.683 --> 01:13:56.524
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, okay, no DQ grudge match.

01:13:56.604 --> 01:13:57.485
[SPEAKER_01]: It's no DQ.

01:13:57.505 --> 01:13:57.705
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

01:13:58.506 --> 01:14:02.850
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, no, I have the, I had the preview up here, but I'm going to get you and the screen is off to the right.

01:14:02.890 --> 01:14:04.431
[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't want to, no, that's fine.

01:14:04.451 --> 01:14:04.691
[SPEAKER_00]: I hit.

01:14:05.252 --> 01:14:14.279
[SPEAKER_00]: If a no DQ grudge match in Osaka, I'm leaning ELP winning, but we're also,

01:14:16.272 --> 01:14:21.276
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, again, I mentioned earlier, this feels like a G1 rematch where the other guy wins.

01:14:22.317 --> 01:14:30.204
[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, I see ELP winning this one and then losing in the G1, which kind of costs him a prime spot in the tournament.

01:14:30.645 --> 01:14:33.007
[SPEAKER_00]: I kind of think, it'll be a fun match.

01:14:34.048 --> 01:14:41.094
[SPEAKER_00]: I went 10 minutes, the ELP ragdolling, somehow was out the win by using a bunch of chairs because they're allowed.

01:14:41.314 --> 01:14:42.175
[SPEAKER_00]: Sure, let's go for it.

01:14:42.692 --> 01:14:47.861
[SPEAKER_01]: The third match is we're stretching the definition of special here.

01:14:48.101 --> 01:14:55.093
[SPEAKER_01]: A special tag match or a special assist, but it is Tai Chi and you you way more against Rio Heo Wewa and Zach Saber Jr.

01:14:57.214 --> 01:15:03.658
[SPEAKER_01]: Again, there's not much reason for this other than they're just wrestling each other a lot and it'll probably be okay.

01:15:03.918 --> 01:15:04.719
[SPEAKER_01]: It'll probably be fine.

01:15:04.799 --> 01:15:08.041
[SPEAKER_01]: Zach has looked pretty bored the last.

01:15:08.221 --> 01:15:10.062
[SPEAKER_01]: He's hardly been here when he has been here.

01:15:10.082 --> 01:15:10.883
[SPEAKER_01]: He's look pretty bored.

01:15:11.763 --> 01:15:14.485
[SPEAKER_01]: So maybe take a look at the rest of the match.

01:15:14.505 --> 01:15:15.826
[SPEAKER_00]: You have to leave it in new Japan.

01:15:16.393 --> 01:15:33.527
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, and maybe to each you can get something out of this, but I don't see, you know, it would probably be well wrestled, but I don't feel like this will be a barn burner or anything will be remembering finally afterwards unless there's a big angle and it's and I'm kind of losing faith in the idea that New Japan does have a good big angle.

01:15:34.258 --> 01:15:40.482
[SPEAKER_00]: sure to feel like the dangerous hacker's relationship with doing a lot of heavy lifting and garnered interest in this match.

01:15:40.942 --> 01:15:50.168
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, having both of those guys on all kinds of it and you know, they're gonna have that moment in the middle of the ring and all that stuff, but that gives it hasn't even been around.

01:15:50.368 --> 01:15:57.632
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I think you showed up for a couple of matches here there to like cheer on OEWA or no, Fujina and then that's the superiors.

01:15:58.153 --> 01:16:01.334
[SPEAKER_00]: But like, did you try it away?

01:16:04.306 --> 01:16:17.508
[SPEAKER_00]: I almost think that he was so over at the post of the champion for so long that it absence like makes the heart grow faunder, but he's also got to have some teeth to whatever he's doing when he comes back.

01:16:18.148 --> 01:16:23.709
[SPEAKER_00]: And if he's just a guy on the roster doing guy on the roster stuff, I don't know.

01:16:23.889 --> 01:16:30.531
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's I think you might have to consider one of their opportunities are there if you're in a mean like you just he

01:16:33.958 --> 01:16:42.973
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, and then the fourth match, we will keep things moving here as time takes, but now yeah, because there is something to talk about in this one, all right, this match here.

01:16:43.982 --> 01:16:48.146
[SPEAKER_01]: So a while back, Desparado and Mystico teamed up.

01:16:48.987 --> 01:16:50.368
[SPEAKER_01]: I guess, because they respected each other.

01:16:50.509 --> 01:16:55.614
[SPEAKER_01]: And they challenged Jose Fujida and Robbie Eagles who had just won the Junior Tag Team titles.

01:16:56.114 --> 01:16:59.197
[SPEAKER_01]: And then Mystico and Desparado wrestled them and beat them.

01:16:59.297 --> 01:17:03.562
[SPEAKER_01]: And won the Junior Tag Team titles, their first night as a team, and they are the champions.

01:17:04.042 --> 01:17:08.805
[SPEAKER_01]: So, of course, at Dominion, huge show, Mystico, flying all the way over from Mexico City.

01:17:08.845 --> 01:17:11.587
[SPEAKER_01]: They're going to defend the titles against the top contenders, right?

01:17:11.907 --> 01:17:14.969
[SPEAKER_01]: No, they're going to wrestle each other for literally no reason.

01:17:15.469 --> 01:17:21.113
[SPEAKER_01]: Why are the tag team champions not defending the titles, but instead wrestling one another, it'll be a good match.

01:17:21.233 --> 01:17:22.573
[SPEAKER_01]: It's desperate out of a Mystico.

01:17:23.154 --> 01:17:24.335
[SPEAKER_01]: What the hell is the booking here?

01:17:24.535 --> 01:17:25.875
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, what are we doing?

01:17:26.996 --> 01:17:27.677
[SPEAKER_01]: What are they doing?

01:17:27.997 --> 01:17:29.578
[SPEAKER_01]: It's fine, it'll be a good match.

01:17:30.547 --> 01:17:31.988
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm really excited for the match.

01:17:32.468 --> 01:17:46.357
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, as you make these guys the champion, if you made them the champions, why aren't they wrestling as the champions on this show and wrestling each other, this is the whole thing is, it New Japan just baffles me sometimes of this stuff on the other hand, it'll be a good match.

01:17:46.946 --> 01:17:48.366
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's going to be a great match.

01:17:48.386 --> 01:17:49.746
[SPEAKER_00]: It could be the best match on the card.

01:17:49.807 --> 01:17:51.127
[SPEAKER_01]: But that's all you know, we're booking.

01:17:51.147 --> 01:17:52.587
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll just throw them in there with no story.

01:17:52.607 --> 01:17:53.447
[SPEAKER_01]: And it'll be a good match.

01:17:53.747 --> 01:18:01.789
[SPEAKER_00]: If it really is, it's like this whole desperate of like, I'm just going to do whatever I want to hear and New Japan just go longer than because my ideas are good.

01:18:02.449 --> 01:18:08.410
[SPEAKER_00]: And so I get the D2 have a bucket list to roughly each other at a big match on a big card.

01:18:08.490 --> 01:18:11.450
[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, you want to get mystic on any card

01:18:16.878 --> 01:18:26.145
[SPEAKER_00]: wishing that we had a organic feud in which the two fake things all felt like it was like

01:18:27.378 --> 01:18:29.439
[SPEAKER_00]: It had, it had some mustard to it.

01:18:29.799 --> 01:18:30.419
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?

01:18:30.459 --> 01:18:32.821
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, it's just a match to do.

01:18:33.921 --> 01:18:39.884
[SPEAKER_00]: And it really like, I think I posted a couple places online and it was like, LLO, sure.

01:18:40.504 --> 01:18:40.984
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?

01:18:41.004 --> 01:18:43.846
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I am totally in for it.

01:18:43.926 --> 01:18:44.686
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm here for it.

01:18:44.846 --> 01:18:49.908
[SPEAKER_00]: And interesting thing, in the whole, I write up on New Japan World for the match.

01:18:50.108 --> 01:18:53.530
[SPEAKER_00]: They're suggesting that these two are going to be defending the titles that were been dope.

01:18:54.940 --> 01:18:55.400
[SPEAKER_01]: Whoopty do.

01:18:55.800 --> 01:18:56.140
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

01:18:56.280 --> 01:19:04.623
[SPEAKER_01]: So now in the next match, but by the way, as far as having a story, they can't even be bothered to have a story for the main event of this show.

01:19:04.783 --> 01:19:06.083
[SPEAKER_01]: So why would we have a story for this?

01:19:06.443 --> 01:19:06.783
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

01:19:06.883 --> 01:19:08.644
[SPEAKER_01]: Next one, we already talked about this.

01:19:08.664 --> 01:19:09.944
[SPEAKER_01]: Aaron Wolfer's Renderita.

01:19:10.004 --> 01:19:10.824
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's just hope it's short.

01:19:11.325 --> 01:19:12.485
[SPEAKER_00]: Fifth match on the card.

01:19:12.645 --> 01:19:12.925
[SPEAKER_00]: Fifth.

01:19:14.613 --> 01:19:16.675
[SPEAKER_01]: It's about right, and it's about right, by the way.

01:19:16.956 --> 01:19:19.419
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, just, and there are nine matches on the card.

01:19:20.180 --> 01:19:26.748
[SPEAKER_00]: And we went from Rethel Kingdom, where he was, what's second from the top, and the, or third from the top.

01:19:26.928 --> 01:19:32.595
[SPEAKER_00]: And now we are, you can move down two spots for the entire same title for the entire same prominence.

01:19:33.444 --> 01:19:37.426
[SPEAKER_01]: After that, for me, this is the match that I am interested in.

01:19:38.807 --> 01:19:41.208
[SPEAKER_01]: Second most on this entire card is the six match here.

01:19:41.228 --> 01:19:47.131
[SPEAKER_01]: The IWGP Tag Team Championship match, Great O'Con and Henare, against Oscar and Udo ice.

01:19:47.692 --> 01:19:58.037
[SPEAKER_01]: This would be the seventh defense of the title for ice and Oscar, of course, famously went almost a year, or maybe a year, a full year, without anybody ever defending the title successfully in New Japan.

01:19:58.057 --> 01:19:59.518
[SPEAKER_01]: These guys have held onto it for a while.

01:20:00.219 --> 01:20:00.479
[SPEAKER_01]: I think,

01:20:01.139 --> 01:20:04.026
[SPEAKER_01]: Great O'Conan and Henare are a good combination.

01:20:04.607 --> 01:20:06.351
[SPEAKER_01]: I think this will be a pretty good tag team match.

01:20:07.113 --> 01:20:11.082
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think it could actually go either way, because I could see them.

01:20:12.783 --> 01:20:18.545
[SPEAKER_01]: If sushi is winning the main event, I can see them throwing a bone to a United Empire here and winning the tag team titles.

01:20:20.205 --> 01:20:29.168
[SPEAKER_01]: Oscar and Is though, I would have absolutely zero problem because, again, we've talked about it, though, the only act that's over in New Japan and it's because they come through.

01:20:29.468 --> 01:20:36.090
[SPEAKER_01]: That's why the fans like them, because they say they're gonna win and they win and the fans get behind them and their cares matter.

01:20:36.830 --> 01:20:43.675
[SPEAKER_01]: I hope ice and Oscar win, but I could also see Great O'Conan and already kind of taking this, but I think it's going to be a good match.

01:20:43.715 --> 01:20:46.317
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm actually looking forward to it as much as almost anything on the show.

01:20:47.497 --> 01:20:56.744
[SPEAKER_00]: So I agree with all that you said right there, um, I think I think you know an author retain and the reason for that.

01:20:57.739 --> 01:21:19.690
[SPEAKER_00]: would have more to do with Henare than anything else because I think Henare should be poised for a really strong G1 and you almost take some teeth off of him if you put him with the tag title belt because you almost put a cap on what he's sealing in right now and you know and after having the tag titles and being in the G1.

01:21:20.462 --> 01:21:29.270
[SPEAKER_00]: Like you know what to expect, you're going to get these great matches, they're going to win to some of the loose, some of the gifts to Frank, is them together, if unstoppable, not as a single or unit.

01:21:29.730 --> 01:21:41.000
[SPEAKER_00]: Henari and Great O'Con don't have that, like they're each formidable, and Great O'Con can probably have a pretty good G1, but my eyes are on Henari here, and keep him,

01:21:45.498 --> 01:21:54.220
[SPEAKER_00]: because keep him in the midst of one of those guys that threaten to move on and block like thieves, use the real deal.

01:21:54.260 --> 01:22:01.182
[SPEAKER_01]: 7th match is the IWGP Global Heavyweight Championship match is a three way with Andrade El Idleo in his first defense.

01:22:01.342 --> 01:22:07.143
[SPEAKER_01]: He won the title from Suji, haven't really seen him much since, against Shota Umino and Drillam Maloney.

01:22:07.624 --> 01:22:09.084
[SPEAKER_01]: Once again, we're kind of on random here.

01:22:11.167 --> 01:22:24.195
[SPEAKER_01]: This could be a way to take the title off of El Idleau without him losing, but I can also see him retaining this in this one, but because both Umano and Maloney

01:22:25.279 --> 01:22:30.061
[SPEAKER_01]: have lost in key spots before or no stranger to seeing either one of them loose.

01:22:30.522 --> 01:22:33.903
[SPEAKER_01]: So if they wanted to keep on dry day strong and keep that global title going.

01:22:35.744 --> 01:22:41.507
[SPEAKER_01]: But you know, it could be that so that there's a challenge for at forbidden door from somebody or whatever.

01:22:41.527 --> 01:22:48.610
[SPEAKER_01]: I bet's what it kind of feels like to me that this match is to set up forbidden door more than this to be any kind of an ending here.

01:22:51.271 --> 01:22:52.292
[SPEAKER_00]: You're going to hate me for this.

01:22:53.117 --> 01:22:53.558
[SPEAKER_00]: Firewall.

01:22:53.618 --> 01:22:56.802
[SPEAKER_00]: Really gonna hate me for this, but on a UW Dynamite.

01:22:57.323 --> 01:23:03.491
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh god, uh, and Draude was walking around with a global title, and he was walking around demanding a world title shot.

01:23:04.092 --> 01:23:04.792
[SPEAKER_00]: So to me.

01:23:05.850 --> 01:23:26.379
[SPEAKER_00]: him demanding a world title shot and then losing the belt that he has within a week of making demands about world titleness seem to incongruous and I also would expect that you know going uniform in door, having a guy like Andrade being able to

01:23:28.140 --> 01:23:39.342
[SPEAKER_00]: headline an upper upper card of the match with a new Japan belt is more attractive than show to Umano or Drillamoloni with that title going into like the crossover shows.

01:23:40.516 --> 01:24:01.556
[SPEAKER_00]: And there also may be a potentiality of this match outcome being spoiled because we're going to get G one block probably on this show and if they are now come on the G one, you know, like I don't really expect him to lose the belt right before going into the G one, all of the thing so.

01:24:02.337 --> 01:24:14.307
[SPEAKER_00]: I think there's a story with all three of these guys that we can run back throughout like the thing where each one of them beat Tandraude in block play, but they couldn't beat him in the three way match kind of thing.

01:24:14.748 --> 01:24:20.072
[SPEAKER_00]: There are things that you can do that really interesting and meet on the bone going into it.

01:24:20.813 --> 01:24:24.716
[SPEAKER_00]: I just, there's a lot of evidence that suggests to me that if the left hand

01:24:31.659 --> 01:24:33.320
[SPEAKER_00]: that would be sensible booking to me.

01:24:34.160 --> 01:24:37.541
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we're asking a lot for sensible booking for me the one of these companies.

01:24:37.621 --> 01:24:39.522
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, no, you make a good point.

01:24:39.862 --> 01:24:48.945
[SPEAKER_01]: And remember how they stepped on the ending of evil and David Finlay last year by announcing they were going to be in the same block earlier in the card than the match they had there.

01:24:48.985 --> 01:24:49.985
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's happened before.

01:24:50.005 --> 01:24:54.246
[SPEAKER_00]: Sometimes I think you're unavoidable, but you can always do the surprise.

01:24:54.286 --> 01:24:57.927
[SPEAKER_00]: But inevitably, I feel like one of Shota or Drillis

01:25:00.048 --> 01:25:22.116
[SPEAKER_01]: the match in hand and on Drawdy steals it and then like going forward both of these guys get a win over him and it's just one of those So close, you know after that we have the junior heavyweight championship we were already previewed the hell out of that Mashio and Doki, so we've already talked about that one and then the main event for the IW GP heavyweight title Yoda Suji challenging Kalam Newman hold the mustard

01:25:23.658 --> 01:25:47.199
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and we've talked about it that Suji has seemed a little disinterested or at least taking down a notch and enthusiasm lately, I still think that this feels like AJ's first title win where he wanted to kind of establish that, hey, this guy is a main event, level wrestler, and then he lost it back, not terribly long after, feels a little bit like that.

01:25:47.279 --> 01:25:50.322
[SPEAKER_00]: We're on that level, he even did the same thing with title.

01:25:51.219 --> 01:25:53.520
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and we've, we've, we've, it's been done.

01:25:53.540 --> 01:25:55.800
[SPEAKER_00]: It was a long, long, long endeavor, but you did it.

01:25:56.320 --> 01:25:59.281
[SPEAKER_01]: When Kenny beat Ocada, he didn't hold it as long as we thought he was going to.

01:25:59.461 --> 01:26:04.002
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, the whole thing is, I, I think this is when Yoda gets a back.

01:26:04.062 --> 01:26:16.404
[SPEAKER_01]: So we, we already talked about how clunky it is to have him winning a title that he already won on national television earlier this year, but nevertheless, it certainly sends a better message than him failing again here on that.

01:26:16.724 --> 01:26:19.545
[SPEAKER_01]: National TV, I just think you got to do the happy ending.

01:26:20.285 --> 01:26:28.912
[SPEAKER_01]: And so I imagine you would as soon as you winning the title back here, if Newman holds on to it, I'm again, very curious to see.

01:26:29.513 --> 01:26:33.236
[SPEAKER_01]: And a lot of, man, I'm also really curious to see how many damn tickets to show sell.

01:26:33.276 --> 01:26:36.118
[SPEAKER_01]: So because there is not much steam on this match.

01:26:37.399 --> 01:26:38.580
[SPEAKER_00]: No, there really is it.

01:26:38.840 --> 01:26:40.922
[SPEAKER_00]: And a couple of concerning, you know, that

01:26:42.052 --> 01:26:47.676
[SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't matter to me who wins or loses, you know, like the damage has already been done for Suji.

01:26:48.116 --> 01:26:54.661
[SPEAKER_00]: And so running it back to rebuild him, just feels like you knocked down a brick wall and now you're just trying to rebuild the bricks.

01:26:55.662 --> 01:27:08.571
[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, I've got this theory that Kalonum and Lusus, and he then goes on and blames will all spray for choosing and get married on that weekend instead of supporting him on the title.

01:27:11.260 --> 01:27:17.282
[SPEAKER_00]: be trained for that heat over there, make perfect sense and get the belt back on Yoda Fuji for the TV.

01:27:17.322 --> 01:27:25.246
[SPEAKER_00]: So he made a vent where a bunch of people are watching on TV and you see his victorious, like hold the belt above the thing and he's the star again.

01:27:25.946 --> 01:27:28.247
[SPEAKER_00]: This all makes sense in called logical booking.

01:27:28.387 --> 01:27:29.607
[SPEAKER_00]: I hope that they do this.

01:27:30.328 --> 01:27:34.149
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't have confidence that that is exactly the thing that they are going to do.

01:27:34.549 --> 01:27:37.391
[SPEAKER_00]: Like this all makes perfect sense in the way to do it.

01:27:41.578 --> 01:27:45.520
[SPEAKER_00]: You don't, don't tear down the wall just to rebuild the wall.

01:27:46.181 --> 01:27:50.023
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, like make, make, make another wall.

01:27:51.419 --> 01:27:57.745
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, Yoda's usually winning makes a lot of sense, because we all think the Kalimnuma and Osprey is the destination.

01:27:57.785 --> 01:27:59.827
[SPEAKER_01]: Right, we would be shocked if that doesn't pan out.

01:28:00.387 --> 01:28:03.510
[SPEAKER_01]: I really think only injury could keep that mash from happening, it restyl Kingdom.

01:28:04.070 --> 01:28:07.834
[SPEAKER_01]: And so if you have Newman versus Osprey, that's a grudge match, you don't need the title.

01:28:08.334 --> 01:28:11.537
[SPEAKER_01]: It'll be fine there just as a match between the two of them.

01:28:11.577 --> 01:28:17.383
[SPEAKER_01]: And you know that Will is going to make Kalimn look like a million dollars, and Kalim is risen to the level that he doesn't need Will,

01:28:18.576 --> 01:28:27.342
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, I mean, if will tries to make him look like a million dollars just certainly will and that's always great, but Calum is a terrific wrestler and he'll hold his own in that match.

01:28:27.382 --> 01:28:28.242
[SPEAKER_01]: It'll be a terrific match.

01:28:28.442 --> 01:28:29.883
[SPEAKER_01]: It should be a grudge match on the card.

01:28:30.203 --> 01:28:35.787
[SPEAKER_01]: That means that so you can defend the title against the G1 winner and, you know, orders restored.

01:28:35.807 --> 01:28:40.650
[SPEAKER_01]: There are two matches on the show that have something interesting about them and then, you know, you fill out the card from there.

01:28:41.010 --> 01:28:45.473
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, that makes it a way, do you, do you, do you, do you not see Yoda Fuji in the

01:28:49.175 --> 01:28:49.475
[SPEAKER_01]: I do.

01:28:49.575 --> 01:28:51.277
[SPEAKER_01]: I think he's going to be the champion facing the team.

01:28:51.297 --> 01:28:54.940
[SPEAKER_00]: Like either way, he's either the champion or he's the challenger and you might all.

01:28:54.960 --> 01:28:55.081
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:28:55.101 --> 01:28:55.321
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:28:55.341 --> 01:28:55.741
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:28:55.881 --> 01:28:56.202
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:28:56.222 --> 01:28:56.422
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:28:56.442 --> 01:28:57.503
[SPEAKER_00]: I see some of you.

01:28:57.563 --> 01:28:57.963
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:28:57.983 --> 01:29:05.370
[SPEAKER_00]: You might have a champion until you actually have a surprise, like, like, onto knowing somebody to come up and, like, say some of the big in the big.

01:29:05.390 --> 01:29:05.590
[SPEAKER_00]: Sure.

01:29:05.950 --> 01:29:06.271
[SPEAKER_00]: Like that.

01:29:07.576 --> 01:29:07.836
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:29:09.077 --> 01:29:09.397
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

01:29:09.437 --> 01:29:11.379
[SPEAKER_01]: So with that said, we'll see how that goes.

01:29:11.459 --> 01:29:13.840
[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to be a Dominion at a second show hall.

01:29:14.161 --> 01:29:15.321
[SPEAKER_01]: That's coming up this weekend.

01:29:15.822 --> 01:29:17.723
[SPEAKER_01]: And we will be, we'll be watching.

01:29:17.763 --> 01:29:18.704
[SPEAKER_01]: It'll be interesting.

01:29:18.804 --> 01:29:20.845
[SPEAKER_01]: I will fit it in between all my world cup matches.

01:29:21.405 --> 01:29:24.408
[SPEAKER_01]: But unfortunately, we are out of time for the Tiger Mass stuff.

01:29:24.448 --> 01:29:25.608
[SPEAKER_01]: I had some stuff about Tiger Mass.

01:29:25.628 --> 01:29:26.409
[SPEAKER_01]: We will get to it next week.

01:29:26.429 --> 01:29:28.030
[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to finish it by the time here at Tire.

01:29:28.050 --> 01:29:29.771
[SPEAKER_00]: If we promise everybody we'll get it done.

01:29:29.951 --> 01:29:31.452
[SPEAKER_01]: But we're almost to,

01:29:32.653 --> 01:29:44.400
[SPEAKER_01]: My next entry is going to get us most of the way through his time on top, and of course we won't have to spend a whole lot of time with him as one of the dads on the low part of the card to work with the young lions, but we're getting close.

01:29:44.420 --> 01:29:46.842
[SPEAKER_01]: There's still some very interesting things about Tiger Mask career.

01:29:47.663 --> 01:29:50.444
[SPEAKER_01]: Now we have a gotten to quite yet, but we will.

01:29:50.985 --> 01:29:54.627
[SPEAKER_01]: We just got pinched out today by a rather newsworthy week.

01:29:55.177 --> 01:30:01.779
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, one last bit of new to note as an else on AEW Dynamite, the first match for been door is official.

01:30:01.879 --> 01:30:04.579
[SPEAKER_00]: It is Kenny Omega versus that Saber Jr.

01:30:04.719 --> 01:30:06.520
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, please, I will be there live.

01:30:06.900 --> 01:30:08.460
[SPEAKER_00]: I am totally okay with this.

01:30:10.221 --> 01:30:15.502
[SPEAKER_00]: If you're reading between the lives, I do an AEW paper view recap show and I suspect

01:30:16.423 --> 01:30:37.116
[SPEAKER_00]: Can you make it will beat that paper junior you will then go on to challenge MDF for the title in Montreal when the title and then challenge will operate will offer will challenge them at all in in one way so you get your Can you omega and will offer a dream match up at Wembley for the AEW title just as big money shows were want to do.

01:30:38.325 --> 01:30:53.129
[SPEAKER_01]: And very curious to see also coming up soon, you know, the G1, the first G1 show will be in Chicago, we will be in attendance and so far Jeremy the blue dot fever is kicking in hard on this one not a lot of tickets sold to us.

01:30:53.149 --> 01:30:55.770
[SPEAKER_00]: We did we did not touch on that much during the show, but.

01:30:57.377 --> 01:31:06.319
[SPEAKER_00]: There are not a whole lot of tickets sold, but we do not have rockers and out, and we don't have block knouts, and we don't have matches and out, so there are three very important things.

01:31:06.739 --> 01:31:18.322
[SPEAKER_00]: And hopefully, much to Steven at Disney, if there is at least a 20% or 15% AEW present, I think those tickets might go a little bit more for that first night that you wanted to come.

01:31:18.840 --> 01:31:19.360
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's interesting.

01:31:19.800 --> 01:31:22.721
[SPEAKER_01]: It's people don't really buy tickets to C. A. E. W. Let alone know.

01:31:22.741 --> 01:31:25.782
[SPEAKER_01]: A. W. Guys and New Japan, but it's a strange thing.

01:31:25.802 --> 01:31:31.284
[SPEAKER_00]: I think they just want to see good matches and those matches are like, oh my god, I have to be there for that.

01:31:31.504 --> 01:31:33.185
[SPEAKER_00]: I think they'll take it and come move at the last minute.

01:31:35.316 --> 01:31:43.665
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm with you man, but like, you know, you are, but this is the 10% of like, oh, they might be able to pull the call off as it stands right now.

01:31:44.205 --> 01:31:47.889
[SPEAKER_01]: There are more podcasters and attendance and fans at this show so far.

01:31:48.049 --> 01:31:48.549
[SPEAKER_01]: That's brutal.

01:31:48.850 --> 01:31:49.731
[SPEAKER_00]: But you got to say like that.

01:31:51.252 --> 01:31:53.314
[SPEAKER_00]: For a month now.

01:31:53.654 --> 01:31:57.078
[SPEAKER_00]: I am optimistic, but cautiously optimistic.

01:31:57.855 --> 01:32:07.779
[SPEAKER_01]: They really ought to focus on their business in Japan more than it's going to Chicago I'm putting on a show but they're going to try and you can't fault them for try if they have the money to try.

01:32:07.999 --> 01:32:08.660
[SPEAKER_01]: I think I just did.

01:32:11.340 --> 01:32:13.864
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, we will see how it goes.

01:32:13.904 --> 01:32:14.785
[SPEAKER_01]: Dominions coming up.

01:32:14.825 --> 01:32:16.748
[SPEAKER_01]: So next week, we will of course match by match.

01:32:16.768 --> 01:32:21.835
[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to break down the big Dominion card and more on Tiger mask and any other news that comes up.

01:32:21.895 --> 01:32:24.739
[SPEAKER_01]: I imagine we will get some G1 news as well.

01:32:24.799 --> 01:32:27.663
[SPEAKER_00]: So I expect next week to be a heavy G1 conversation.

01:32:28.534 --> 01:32:30.155
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you to everybody who joined us here live.

01:32:30.175 --> 01:32:33.318
[SPEAKER_01]: Thanks to everybody who watches this later or listens to us as a podcast.

01:32:33.538 --> 01:32:34.579
[SPEAKER_01]: We know you have a lot of choices.

01:32:34.619 --> 01:32:38.283
[SPEAKER_01]: We're very grateful that you spend some time with each and every week.

01:32:38.343 --> 01:32:38.783
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.

01:32:38.883 --> 01:32:40.625
[SPEAKER_01]: So for Jeremy Feinstein, I'm Stephen Conway.

01:32:40.945 --> 01:32:43.948
[SPEAKER_01]: This has been Speaking of Strong Style and we will talk to you again real soon.