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[SPEAKER_00]: welcome back to take down WG here with Paul Fontaine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we have three wrestling topics to talk about.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But before we get there, I was wondering what you thought about the viewership number for the Ronda Rousey and Gina Corrano fight that we covered with big Dave on Saturday night.

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[SPEAKER_01]: you know, it's funny is I was I was actually going to mention what did we want to talk about that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was I honestly I'll say I was surprised.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I like I thought I knew it was going to be well, but I remember Dave asking before the show like you know a bunch of stuff about, oh, what you know, what about this, what about that?

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[SPEAKER_01]: all this and I think I said no on every one of the questions he had like and I think it turned out that every one of them was what hit you know something like is it going to be like four times WrestleMania and all this other stuff and yeah I mean so it like average of 12 million and 17 million for the fight I think was was what to came in at.

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[SPEAKER_00]: my only reference was because I knew we were going to talk about it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, you know what, I'm going to take notes and instead of just taking notes on a no pad, I'm just going to live blog the show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was, and I was super interested to see how many people would actually find my thing because, you know, every MMA website humanly possible and others like pro wrestling websites like what you did, everyone was going to to write about it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I was like, I'll just, I'll just throw it up there and be interested to see what views it did, especially because our website, the fight game media network website, it is mostly just a place for all of our podcasts and YouTube videos to also have like a reference point.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I was actually surprised.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, wow, people actually found this thing, which was pretty incredible to me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so that was my first sign of like, I wonder if this show did a lot better than people thought.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the other thing about that number, maybe the most amazing thing about that number.

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[SPEAKER_00]: is the length of the fight because if you remember that the junior dos Santos and Kane Velasquez Fox number that it beat for US viewership, the thing that was discussed about that fight was had that fight gone longer than I how long did that fight go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I remember that seven to the short to which one the junior and Kane won.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no, that was I mean, that was obviously longer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I think

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, but the idea being that what happens in fights, especially good fights, that have a little bit of length to them, is you get people seeing stuff about it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I need to turn it on or I forgot to turn it on or someone jumps on a text and it's like, hey, turn this on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is really good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you didn't have that with the Gina and wrong to fight because it was 17 seconds, which I don't think anybody was surprised about.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So the fact that it did,

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[SPEAKER_00]: that good of a number with the show doing, you know, with the viewership being that high on on such a short fight.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought that was maybe the most impressive thing about it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Actually, I was wrong.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was a minute and four seconds.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I couldn't remember exactly what happened.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just remember being short because I remember the discussion being

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[SPEAKER_00]: Had that fight gone longer that number would have done better and also yeah and also about you know all the awesome fights ahead on the end of cards that they didn't even show on fox that No, they had that one Facebook wasn't like a clay glee clay glee to Facebook fight or something.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Ben Henderson.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Henderson was coming off that full-time kick win on WEC that went viral.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I was, I'd be curious how the F4W thing did.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I actually just sent Josh a message to ask him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'll be curious what he comes back with.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, as I was doing it, it's funny because I didn't feel like

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, there certainly was way more people watching it in our own discord than everyone, any UFC, like including great views, certainly not these weekly Fortnite shows, but like the week before, I definitely got a lot more interaction on X than I got for this show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But there's also the possibility that there was so many more people covering it that, you know, people weren't necessarily just interacting with me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I did get feedback on the right up, which was nice and and it's the first time I'd done like a live right up on a show in like years.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, I was I was happy to both that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, it was, you know, it felt like a big event.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The only thing I think everyone's questioning, especially now with the numbers in, is like, okay, are they going to do it again?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm sure they want to, and I'm sure Netflix probably would like them to do something, but I don't think it works without Ronda.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, what is the fight?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't even know what the fight would be.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We could write it through it with Dave.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like who's that?

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I know it all was kind of, yeah, talk people into the Mike Perry thing, but that's not going to be this kind of business.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The one we didn't mention that maybe could, and I don't know if, I don't know if Jorge Maswell is available, but possibly Nate Diaz and Jorge Maswell.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I think that's a pretty big fight.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think I know that would do monster business for UFC, but and and I don't like, you know, he's not fighting anymore.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But the thing is, I don't even know if Mazvetl would fight for anyone but UFC, like he, you know, he's in pretty tight with that my think.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, that, but I don't know, like that's the only one in the, you know, at GSP is another name out there that

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[SPEAKER_01]: you know, people have brought up and and he's actually still under contract UFC.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They won't release him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, so like, yeah, there's, I don't know, Brock maybe.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, like, you know, like, maybe Brock and John Jones or something.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no, Jones is available either.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't, you know, and I don't know, Brock against like Francis.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't, that doesn't, I don't know, baby, Brock fade or maybe?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I, but man, God, that would be terrible.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But you know, like I don't know,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you say broken.

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[SPEAKER_01]: a bit of magic and Brock is also pretty tied up with uh well that's true too right yeah yeah relationship yeah WWE's not going to let him do a fight yeah what amount wouldn't mean even saying um so and when we're gonna talk about Brock later but uh yeah like those are the names right so it's got to be Ronda and she doesn't want to fight now can they convince her too I don't know like I don't she seems like the pretty strong world and she doesn't want to do something

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[SPEAKER_00]: She even didn't Instagram post today about she, you know, she, the thing where she wrote in the Notepad and took screenshots of the Notepad.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was just essentially like this was like a year and a half process and I'm so happy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's over and we accomplish so much and yeah, you know, no, there's no money that can give into her.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think well, but also.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She got, she, she was able to go out on her own, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, the way that she wanted to go out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, you know, the negative thing about this fight, I would say the only negative thing, and this is, you know, more and more sphere is,

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[SPEAKER_00]: stupid wrestling fans who are casual MMA fans trying to talk about this show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was the worst.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was just like block block block.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't even want to deal with it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was they just got Dumber and Dumber and Dumber as as the

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, well, there's also some pretty dumb and may fans that, you know, like, the one I saw was, you know, like, I wish we got the minute by minute because it would be amazing to find out how many people tuned out as soon as the DS fight was over, like, what a stupid.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then we get the thing in and yeah, of course, it peaked on the main event.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, you know, these are the same idiots that we're talking, you know, 15 years ago.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, oh, yeah, why is Rhonda headlining over Dan Henderson and Leo to Machita?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, yeah, you know, I mean, and back then it was a, it was a risk, I guess.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I mean, anybody with a brain new who the draw was on that show and give you a god bless Dan Henderson, Leo to Machita at great fighters, all the famous all-time greats, but not draws.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Not like Rhonda.

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[SPEAKER_00]: do you remember where you were when you saw that fight?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was in Minneapolis.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We were going to Disney World and we drove down to Minneapolis.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We were flying out of the air because it was cheaper to fly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I actually, I think I went to a restaurant at Mall of America to watch it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was at a friend.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't talk to this woman anymore, but she was a

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think she may have even trained at did some stuff with A.K.A.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So she was kind of like a budding MMA fan and kind of in that ecosystem, you know, hanging out with a lot of brodudes from that time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And she had a big party at her house.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, at that point, you know, I'm especially for people like us, you know, we really dig deep on stuff like this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I'm having conversations with people, and I was telling him about Ron this background and why this is important and how she needs to win because it's going to mean X for the business of women fighting in MMA and this and that and so I that that was a very memorable fight because there was a moment where.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There was a small sliver of the door being open of her act, her, her lack of experience actually working against her, but then she closed the door really quickly and got that win.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was a very memorable fight.

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[SPEAKER_00]: One of the most memorable fights, I think, because, you know, I remember a lot of the big ones, but to know exactly where I was and who I was talking to, it's pretty special.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I remember that one, and I also remember the one she had with Misha in Strike Force and the specials that they did leading up to it, and then when the fight started, remember my wife, it's one of the only times my wife ever watched a fight, and it's because she really liked the special that they did beforehand.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and it was just cool that it was too women and I mean, you know, it had been done before, but it was too women that were good looking, but it wasn't focused on their looks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think that was what really compelled her.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, the first time I saw Misha was at a strike foreshow,

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[SPEAKER_00]: she was media, but she was also done up to look like a smoke show in a half.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm like, I don't even remember what she was actually doing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, who is that?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I remember my buddy was posting pictures because he was media for that show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he's like, oh, you don't know who me should take it?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: I do now like she looks like somebody that you know you should pay attention to and think you know she she was she was a pretty good fighter at that point too or she became a pretty good fighter yeah and so she was able to maximize that a little bit but um you know she she did have I think as she progressed in her career she leaned less on that

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[SPEAKER_00]: on that, you know, the looks aspect and went more into herself as a fighter, which was great for her.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, I just remember seeing her for the first time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, oh my gosh, like just woman, you know, she's going to be somebody.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's dovetail into some pro wrestling stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the first topic will end this show with AEW because of double or nothing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's talk about Oban Brock.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, you haven't seen raw yet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, but you kind of heard everybody tired like before the show was over.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was getting DMs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to be helpless.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So Brian Alvarez did a solo resting of the radio yesterday and he was saying how when he was at

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[SPEAKER_00]: that he immediately got a text from someone.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm assuming someone who's in the back at the show saying,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Brock will be back at mean in Minneapolis like that's kind of the end game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then you thought you see Brock taking off his shoes and crying and doing all the retirement stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then the thank you Brock stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then they kind of stopped talking about him like they would allude to him a little bit with Hayman and Gunther and this favor and this in that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But he was kind of like, you know, they kind of didn't tease it as much as I thought that they would.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, I sometimes think that Tony Khan has like an easy thing that he can do and sometimes like throws you in 25 different directions and I'm like, why isn't he just doing like the easy way to tell the story.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is how WWE would do it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And in this case with Brock Lesnar.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, no, dude, this thing needed like many more intricate pieces of this storyline to get people into it and to, you know, to get people excited about it, Oba comes out and Brock just shadows him in the dark and attacks him and beats him up and leaves him laying.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it's not like Oba had to be taken out on the stretcher.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It didn't, like he was, he wasn't even out, like as Brock was leaving.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oba's kind of honest stomach kind of looking up at him and I was like, okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So what did we actually get out of this?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I was like, it's the first time that he actually laid him out, which has never happened in the buildup or in the match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, and this is leading to a match at the clash in Italy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, wow.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Paul Hayman basically said to Adam Pierce, like I have a treat for you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I have an actual signed contract with Brock Lesnar's signature on it for Italy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like that's literally what he said.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So they're leading to a second match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I know people are thinking that we're going to get the the three match story.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And in order to get the third match, Brock has to win.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not sure that's the right thing to do in this case.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I mean, I agree.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't necessarily know if you have to have Brock when you could have over win again, and then Brock is so frustrated that he agree, you know, that he says, okay, I'm going to beat this guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I need him one more time and then he puts his career on the line against, against Obet at SummerSlam.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you could do that and then yeah, it beats him three times and then you could argue, I suppose you can argue that beating him three times is better than beating him once.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Although, I mean, the the weird thing about that is, though, everyone assumed it was going to be Brock and Gunther at WrestleMania at SummerSlim.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I still feel like it's going to be Brock and

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's a some kind of disqualification finish because Gunther attacks Brock.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't know if he did it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just came up with some.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know how feasible this is, but with what if you did, what if Brock wins?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then you get O about going on a tear and and then like night one of summer's time is Brock against Gunther for the title and you got Oba challenging the winner on night two.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's Oben Brock in the main event of night two.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's interesting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, but we'll obey some for the title.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Could do that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, that just popped into my head.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if they would do that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'd be weird to have a second night promoted without a main event.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I mean, they've done that before.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They did it with WrestleMania and Dallas.

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[SPEAKER_00]: My sense is,

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[SPEAKER_00]: the brock thing and that they probably feel like they manipulated a bunch of fans by i'm gonna tell them right now

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[SPEAKER_00]: only marks bought it if anybody bought it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Only the dumbest of the wrestling fans thought Brock was retired.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it was very clear to me that he was going to come back and that this was like a red herring and it wasn't even a great one because it didn't even know I mean they tried you know they took they put him in the then part of the opening and I think he's on the alumni page of www.com and I'll like they didn't everything you would do to try to convince people but yeah I mean

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[SPEAKER_01]: everyone assumed it's kind of like that set injury you know like where you know they're gonna try to convince us that we got them you know it's like no you don't got them uh yeah i didn't make it a nice one real but i didn't think it was gonna happen but then in bringing him back into this way tells me

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[SPEAKER_00]: they didn't, they didn't really put that much thought into it either, because it was in the fantastic story.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, and if I don't think when that happened at WrestleMania, I don't think the idea was that, oh, we're gonna do Brock and Oberto at Clash in Italy, like in six weeks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think that was the plan on April 19th, or whatever data was.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is it possible that Brock kind of went into business for himself to try to get himself some more money for another fight?

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[SPEAKER_01]: That would not surprise me at all.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If we find that out later, I don't think that's what happened, but I mean, that certainly would not be beyond the role possibility for Brock.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it's like, I'm going to retire here and then they need me and then they'll pay me more, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I mean, I, I mean, I looking at this class and it'll be card that card is actually fantastic.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, you know what card sucks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, Dex weekend Saturday nights main event.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're not even trying and they're I mean and this is I mean in a way it's kind of good you know that they're you know like it's the same weekend is double or nothing and you know There's a time where WWE would have tried and this is kind of like UFC against MVP It's like a fine peacock on pissed like what are we paying you this for click and there and if I'm TKO they're probably like yeah, we'll cancel this then

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[SPEAKER_01]: you know what goes somewhere else take this like they need to kill this Saturday night main event brand it is bad I think they're in for like three more years or something um yeah I mean because I think they think they could probably shop it around but I don't know you know

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[SPEAKER_01]: I, I don't know who would buy it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe Netflix would take it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but it needs to be bigger and it's not, you know, it's not big enough.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, as you said, like, it's not even it's somewhere between a raw and a, an appeal, like a normal PLE.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, that's kind of what I actually think.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I actually think the raw, uh, uh, maybe not smack down, but most raws are more interesting because at least you get angles.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And on this show you just get matches and I'm not sure that I'm interested in any single one of these matches.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm interested in a couple of them, like the tag title match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'd like to see the Street Profit's win, but I mean, that could easily be a raw match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Probably should be.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a SmackDown before a paper view main event is what that match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Ethan Page and Penta, I'm interested in seeing that, but again, yeah, it's another one that, if it was a raw match, I'd be interested in it, but it probably wouldn't even

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, it'd be, you know, top of the second hour of, yeah, raw, you know, I'll be interested to see when you finally watch Raw, what you think of what they did with Ethan Page and Michael Cole, Michael Cole interviewed him for no reason whatsoever.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think like I don't remember if it was like teased or something and I missed it, you know, by fast forward certainly didn't advertise it ahead of time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'll be watching the next couple of days.

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[SPEAKER_00]: playing like moral police like oh, why do you act like this dude like you you're just all about your ego It's in his goddamn nickname.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What are you like what are we doing that pro wrestling in your life Mr. Cole you've been doing this for 28 years like the rock The rock is like a million times where you get physical that even pages ever been my goodness Yeah, yeah, it's you know in some ways I think

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[SPEAKER_00]: man, imagine being a booker and having to come up with television segments that are different than the week before.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So then, you know, you know, we haven't done this in a while.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's let's get coal one on one with somebody.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I haven't seen it yet, but I can't imagine it was worse than Sami Zain doing a monologue to Komato's Johnny Gargana lying on the box.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my god,

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[SPEAKER_00]: How bad can we go, how bad can we go, but yeah, it was so bad.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was for us frustrating because you know, if you're a fan of Sammy Zane and even if you kind of dig the character that he's doing, he's definitely trying.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But they're just giving them the dirt worst.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, and they're trying to get him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You like, what about Gargano?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, what the hell is going on with that dude?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, it's he literally doing this to try to get cuts.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you can go join Chomp and A W. Like, that's I swear to God, that feels like where this is going.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, they're just trying to like bury him on his way out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Which is not the least naughty release ever been.

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[SPEAKER_00]: won't bury him at all, like, I mean, but then the fans who root for A. W. We'll see through it and see him as, like, yeah, come to the place that's my treat to great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, it's like, it's like X-pop, you know, somebody's going to kind of promote some point was like, if two K.O.

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[SPEAKER_01]: had any balls, they'd free Johnny Gargano, you know, like, it's like X-pop did with Scott Holland Kevin Nash.

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[SPEAKER_01]: sounds like Tony Con might not be the biggest fan of Johnny.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, he didn't need to.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We've heard that, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he didn't give him an offer last time he was a free agent.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So maybe to think this is good, like I don't, you know, like, I mean, obviously it's going somewhere.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just have no idea where and I can't imagine it's any good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, yeah, WWE, you know, you try, I, I see the stuff that I get bothered with.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, and it does not feel like their hot though there's there are things we've talked about it like I think Jacob fought to has been fantastic and he's actually gotten some stuff out of Roman, you know, this isn't your normal, you know, contender of the month just because we need Roman on our television kind of field like there's some teeth to this thing and yeah, I kind of, I kind of do wonder if Jacob's going to win one of these upcoming matches.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're doing tribal combat.

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[SPEAKER_00]: at the at the paper view.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's the angle coming out of the roll.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll get some of those.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll get probably keys and maybe even solo and and Tala.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Keys is another one that I think is a standout right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he he I mean he stepped up and it's sad because the fans didn't really react to it like you're unsure they would have liked but he had a really good match with Gunther.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And this is because that show was so damn boring.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they don't know him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's the other issue.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So when he shows up, they're like, well, why are you here?

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[SPEAKER_01]: We want to see Cody and Gunther.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And but you know, they got to do that and get him in that mix.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And and you know, his moves got to get over.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, I thought you had a really good match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm sure Gunther liked working with them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, I hope that should, I'm sure that matched helped him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Even though the fans maybe didn't react the way they would

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, let's talk about the zone cup.

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[SPEAKER_00]: These brackets came out, and I think they want us to believe we're getting Osprey and Swerve at Forbidden Door, which is in my hometown, so I will be there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It sounds like that's what they want fans to think.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It sounds like that's kind of like the big match that is set up on the men's side.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think there's a outside chance that Claudio could have

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[SPEAKER_00]: be the upset if we're continuing to tell this deathwriter story.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think it will make the fans the happiest if it's Claudio instead of swerve.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But we'll have to see how the John Moxley thing continues to go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is there anything else in this men's bracket that you're intrigued about?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you know, this, what I soon will be the second round match, Ospan Mark Davis.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure that's going to be a good match and it's going to be heated because of what happened the last time Ospan Davis wrestled.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then Swerve going through Brodito, you know, is, is a good story.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it's a nice little story for the tournament.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, it's funny.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I saw, I saw the little interaction that two of our good friends had on Twitter about the sort of in Bandito, if you don't know if you saw it, but it was Ryan and John the Rocka.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, really?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Cause Laura, I thought it, you know, it escalated real quickly that swirnov is like a attacking band that you don't value to end his career, you know, um, when their feud is just starting and it's like they don't even have a personal issue.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then Ryan's like, well, no, the issue is they're fighting in this tournament.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And there's a world title shot in the line.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, so they made their cases, but that world, that tournament match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: came after Swerve went to that moon.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, exactly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then also it's like, why is everyone else in the tournament trying to end the career of the guy they're fighting?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like it, you know, there is, I see both sides.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't think he needed to have Swerve vowed to end his career, you know, because they're wrestling in the first round of a tournament, you know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I do think that match is going to be a hell of a match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And

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[SPEAKER_01]: I suppose there's a possibility that you could do, you could have Swerve Luz, and then you end up getting Brody and Bandito in the second round, which should, you know, match that I'm sure the fans would be super in due, and then maybe get either Will Osprey and Bandito in the finals, which would be an incredible match, and

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[SPEAKER_01]: you know what might might be a good match for San Jose, you know, like with the Mexican population and all that, if you got banned, you don't want to roll, or will Osprey and Brody Brody being a California guy, and, and that's a hell of a match and coming off of a win over Coach Smodjo, Mark Davis, Brody King.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like,

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[SPEAKER_01]: that's, you know, pretty, pretty cool story for Will Osprey, you know, three just big bad monsters that is beating, you know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, they could do it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I mean, the obvious is Will Osprey and Swerve, and, and I think that's what they're probably going to do, but there are possibilities for other things, and, and I think they would work.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and, and again, it's a W and it's Will Osprey, and it's something no matter what happens, as long as he's in the finals, um, they can't go wrong.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, if he doesn't make a finals, what is it, you know?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, yeah, the finals are going to be like Samoa Joe and, you know, Brody King.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, okay, yeah, that's a dynamite, you know, nine o'clock match, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So on the women's side, the women's side is a little mind boggling to me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Persephone, Hazuki, Hazuki, Willow,

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[SPEAKER_00]: do you know who that is like honestly don't okay okay thank you such as okay um will a nightingale alks winds are in in the other bracket sorry and sky blue um and then Athena and and mean as sure kawa you know I was looking at like okay who on the who's part of the AW roster is in this tournament and I was like okay mean uh

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[SPEAKER_00]: she should not be an internment like this because she's I think a lot of her matches are

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[SPEAKER_00]: a show and no go of late sky blue.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know people think that she's much improved.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I am still not that big of a fan of hers in the ring.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Of course, Willow and Alex, I think you got to give Alex some credit for becoming somebody in a W. She's a part of the a really strong tag team.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She's had some good matches.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would like to see her.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I guess pushed a little bit more to see what she could do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then Persefinity and Suzuki, I know Persefinity a little bit, but it's not like we know Persefinity a ton.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just so weird that there's no Mercedes in this tournament.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And outside of, you know, Willow and maybe Alex Windsor, who's like the big AEW star?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like Athena could be, but they don't, they just keep her in our OH.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm not sure what even to think or where to even, you know, where they may go unless it's just willow winning back to back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and like there are stars that they push that aren't in this tournament.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you know, Chris Stattlander has been all over TV.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, I know she's in that four way in the tournament, but could they not have booked any of those women in the tournament and then just said, Oh, if they win, then Teclo will take their spot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, like, it's very simple.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't like that excuse either because I would rather see.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Just about all of them in this tournament, then this is of the way that we're going to do it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Marina Schaffier, she's not in the tournament and she's somebody that's all over television and it has credibility.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now I don't know if you know her in a long singles match is something that maybe Tony doesn't feel confident in, I don't know, without bells and whistles.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like she's done a lot of these hardcore matches and stuff but in just a straight wrestling match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, there's uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, and she, well, she came back the one time that she had heard again.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't hear anything and I mean, I would rather see her than sky blue for instance, like she's probably going to use in the first run anyways, but, you know, if that's going to be your person reho where she, you know, she has a little bit of credibility former champion, not the rose they could have brought her back and said, hey, former champion and you to you to probably look as Naila Rose doing in these.

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[SPEAKER_01]: you know, but I think she still works for the company.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but she's not on ring of honor anything and then yeah, there's a lot of people in ring of honor, but again, that you know how much credibility do any of those people have.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was waiting for the brick baker comment.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, you know what I would be saying it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, the only thing that if I again, I've said this a few times and every time I say it, I get shocked down, but I still have a feeling that she's going to come back and face Willow at some point and lose and then we won't see her again, but you know, it's just what fit in with this gimmick of Willow beating people that they bring back and then you don't never see those people again, you know, although I didn't, I haven't watched Collision yet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Did Anna J. Trump on collision, I've been seeing more talk about her and I know she was like one

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, don't I don't you haven't heard anything and I watch I did watch collision last week too, and I don't remember, but but I mean, so we had her we had Amonata and I think there's one other one that fought with a wrestled willow, and then we never saw them again.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So for me, it's like, yeah, you might as well do her paying anyway, but I don't think that'll happen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now I do think I and I said this on the dynamite show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that somebody that is in this term right now isn't actually going to be in the tournament.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think Mercedes is going to take over for them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I saw the argument against that was like, oh, well, you don't want her in such substitute.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, it's like, why not?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, he's like, well, if she wasn't part of the plan, I was like, no, I think he booked this tournament with the idea that, okay, we're going to replace one of these people with Mercedes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he probably knows

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Perseventy is out injured.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's supposed to be on the ring of honor paper view and they pulled her because of injury.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I do think that we are going to see Mercedes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If not, like, what is he doing?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, she's the bad.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, she's in last and I brought this up too, is maybe she, you know, wins a title at Ferbindor.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, maybe you get Mercedes in Techlet, Ferbindor and Mercedes wins.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then Mercedes versus the winner of the Owen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now all of a sudden is the biggest women's match you can do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: you know, whether that's Alex Windsor or Willow.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think those are like the two in the tournament that, you know, could, could possibly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, are the cameras another one that could have been in this tournament that, I mean, she, she's not great, but she's better in sky blue.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, we keep bringing her up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And and honestly like I'm sure Huzuki is a great wrestler.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've never seen her.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know who she is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But she's got she'd I'd be more interested in seeing Harley Cameron Russell.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Then I would be in seeing Hozuki Russell.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She you see the this was a couple of dynamites ago where they had Harley to set to rip her top off in the middle of the promo.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then she lost the match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I mean to me fair.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like it's not like she was showing any more than she does in her ring gear.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it was just the idea that she was so crazy and just like that's that was the feeling and I was like Oh, they must have done that for a reason.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe they think there's some like hornball fans who or are You know need to get into her a little bit more and then I was like nope, because then she just lost the match Yeah, and then again I don't think I don't think we've seen her sense.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, okay, so One thing I forgot to mention we were talking about Osprey

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mentioned this in the discord, just kind of for fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I actually do think that this would be a great idea is have Ronda Rousey be the one who teaches Osprey the finishing touches of the Armbar as part of the deathwriters camp.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Gabby cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like I don't know if Ronda would be up for that, but if she, if she was, yeah, why not?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, she's cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She's cool with that group, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Her best friends in it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She's cool with mocks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It would be, you know, kind of a cool, she's not going to be wrestling any time soon.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She's not going to be doing them a may.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It would just be a cool thing, you know, but yeah, just do a big net.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, like, she just shows up on TV.

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[SPEAKER_01]: One day, and that's in the Tony Combs playbook, too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, yeah, we're just going to throw on our pre-tap.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Not to advertise it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, hey, there's Rhonda.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, totally.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That'd be cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And coming off that big Netflix thing, that'd be a big coup for them, too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So let's talk about double or nothing here this weekend.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's crept up on me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know Jeremy and I are going to do the post show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I won't be able to watch it live live, but I'm hoping that I can get suit get it done pretty soon after the show is over.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But we're going to do a.

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[SPEAKER_00]: a post show after some some time you're probably an hour and a half maybe after that shows over and I didn't realize that Monday was Memorial Day so I don't really have to worry about you know getting to bed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I do.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, no, no.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so I don't know if I'll get to watch it on Sunday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm still trying to catch up and get in there, but I somehow watch our our wage paper view and that's like five hours long.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm

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[SPEAKER_00]: So they're probably gonna add I'm guessing something like four matches still because they have eight they don't I don't see anything on the the pre show so they they have to add some pre show matches.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if they're gonna add another match to the main card with eight main card matches right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So let's talk about those.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But is there any one that you're kind of like I actually can't wait for this show because of this match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I mean, I'm really interested in, um, the being event, um, you know, of what's going to happen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, you're still holding strong on on Darby's win in this match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, yeah, like I, I, I, yeah, yeah, I think he's going to win this match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I, because I don't think, um, I think that MJF went way too hard on the hangman thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And just the fact that you know, losing the hair that I think that they'd want to pay that off and also, you know, that that's time for hangman to return like we haven't seen hangman since Revolution, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think it's time for him to return and if he returns, that would be the natural place to do it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So for me,

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's intriguing and you know, and then I think stadium stampede is probably the other one that I'm like super into just because I think it's, you know, the talent that they have in that match, it should be a lot of fun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I expect some surprises they always do cool stuff with the music.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, I'm kind of looking forward to that and see what they do there and just, you know, what what all these guys do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And again, like the other thing that intrigues me is I think there's like regulations in New York that to where there's some things that they're not allowed to do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, how are they going to compensate for that?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think these guys are all like creative and smart and talented that they'll come up with some creative stuff to make up for the fact that they can't you know that I don't think they can do blood and I don't think they do crowd rolling so I'm I'm yeah it's going to be a pre tape.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can't imagine that, but I mean, maybe there'll be some stuff that's pre-taped.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, so you'll have stuff going on in the ring and then, though, or maybe not even pre-taped, but it'll be backstage.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Wasn't the original stadium stampede almost 100, like, mostly pre-taped?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like, I think they did that one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I think they said they filmed it the night before, and they were filming it, like, they started in the evening, and they filmed it almost until the morning.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And if I'm remembering that right, because they were trying to get it all in while it was still dark.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, there was so much, I mean, that match, I remember watching that match, and I can't remember like, it had been a long time before I saw a match that made me that happy, because we were, it was the end of May in 2020, you know, like it was the pandemic, it was, we were getting such awful crap from WWE, and even, even a WWE was trying with the fans in the building, but they did those shows from that gym,

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[SPEAKER_01]: you know, where QT Marshall was training people and stuff and it was just like, oh my god, the wrestling is just over.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then they did this show and it's like, oh man, they could still do a good show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that match in specific, like it was just so much fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, I just, I, you know, it's funny.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's the match that I'm not, I don't really care about.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think it's because one,

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not even sure what the feud is, like unless you're super duper into the Jericho and Ricochet stuff, which is played up a lot for comedy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not exactly sure what the beef is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think like other than Jericho and Ricochet, like there isn't really much of a beef between it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you do have the elite against the Cal's family, which you know, it's been going on for years, but it's not only two Cal's family members in this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and one of them is one of them is Rade.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And one of them doesn't want to be there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right, and the dogs in the box.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean that's been starting and I'm sure they're headed for a big match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like okay, but the thing about that is I know so the dogs all that it's not mad.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, right after they lost yeah that was and then they're like and then they cut a promo as if like this is a big hurrah to the spatula.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just watch you guys lose.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's like okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We know it's taking the pin.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, you know, click on us.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're looking at you of from an action standpoint.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure these guys are going to do crazy stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I look at the young books and I'm kind of like, okay, this is kind of your job to make sure that this thing is crazy choreographed and great spots and stuff and

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, uh, I forgot who's so Brian on Rustinger's already.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I said, I just hope that nobody gets hurt.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I guess that's kind of the thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is you just don't want to see anybody get hurt because you have.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You have Kenny in this match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You have Jack Perry who's in the Owen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You have Matt Nick who are involved in this tag team feud with F F T R and assuming Copeland and in Cage.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then you have Mark Davis, who is in the own company of Andrade, who's been really good, the dogs are the dogs like I'm not into them, but, you know, they are valuable because they, you know, they are on dynamite they are on TV, but yeah, that's the match where I'm like, okay, this is like a.

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[SPEAKER_00]: you know a survivor series match where there's really no feud and it's just there to be you know a lot lots of hot tags and superheated you know super super spots so for that it'll be it'll be good I'm sure it'll be good I'm sure people are gonna say it's you know it's the crazy smash they ever saw it's just not something that I'm interested in seeing on paper before the show starts

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[SPEAKER_01]: Fair enough.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I do think we'll probably get some stuff with Andrade and Kenny in here and maybe like set up a singles match between those two, which could end up being for a title shot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's kind of why it's interesting that Andrade is not in this own cup.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we got Ocada and Takeshita for the International Championship.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We just saw Takeshita lose to Darby out in a really, really exciting match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was supposed to be Ocadas match and we were kind of wondering, like, okay, full cut.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was in that match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, what's going to happen?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I'll be the same thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you just take it a pin?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, Ocadas, like, yeah, I'm just going to take this pin.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess so.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Or maybe that match was never going to happen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Or maybe Ocada was like, yeah, it doesn't work for me, brother.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't think it would have been quite as exciting with no, no, I think it worked out for the best because yeah, to catch the, I mean, that was really one of the best matches a year to catch it a finally getting his W here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think so, kind of have to, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is he also finally turning baby face and getting away from the callous team?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Probably, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, another reason why I think Darby is gonna win because I think we still want, I think Darby and probably Tony Khan still want to have Darby and O'Cotta for the title and if Darby retains, they can do that title match in a couple of weeks on Dynamite.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, I'm not sure what is going to get as dial up for this match as everyone else is what this one to guess no I think he'll be there how many coffee drops do you want me to take from this man just jumping at me at laser speed yeah back

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[SPEAKER_01]: I, yeah, and man, like, Darby, yeah, Darby weighs 140 pounds, but I, I would, there's a lot of moves I would want to take before I would want to take a coffin drop from Darby, I was just saying that like that dude, his body's like a missile.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's, yeah, he makes the most of what he has.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, FTR against cage.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, this is me, you at the stadium stand.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Pete, that's where I am at with this one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, so tag team, I quit match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: For the tag titles and if cage and Copeland lose, they must retire, which to me is the tell in this entire match that they have to win.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly, and you know what?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And there's two steps in this show that

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[SPEAKER_01]: you know that that the fans should want one thing or the other now do they give them what they want here but give them not give them what they want in the main event or do they give them what they want in both matches that's the key right because they want they want and then do we have like two steps one of them that goes through and one of them doesn't or both of them that don't go through.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What's the finish in this match?

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[SPEAKER_00]: How does DAX or CASH say I quit?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, well, I like you see here Jeff's idea for this match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is a bell ring Christian just says I quit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought that would be amazing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but no, um, I think Beth gets involved.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think she's maybe she's about to do something to stoke.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then, you know, like that's quits or something.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I kind of wonder if we're going to get the crossface where Copeland puts little thing in the person's mouth and pulls back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, they've done that before.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You've done that before.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Can chair toe, could double can chair toe on stoke?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You could do like you could be setting up for the double can chair toe on like cash and then DAX quits for cash, you know, like something like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I could see that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's kind of an old school thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, where, where, you know, like the he, the the guy does it to protect his friend.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But then, of course, the gadget cursor would still have to do it, you know, like, and then, oh, yeah, and then do it to dacks as well, you know, so yeah, and you know, and there's rumors about fully and I don't know if he's he's able to be here, but this would be a good spot for fully, too, would be in this match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know I predicted like the stadium stampede, you know, like you have his music play and everyone goes nuts or whatever, but here would be the you have the cactus jack music play.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, not the WWE one, but the born to be wild.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, that's associated with Caxis Jack.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And WWE after even did that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The first time they introduced Caxis Jack, they paid for that music, the first time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Tony would definitely pay for it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, Tecla Shida, Jamie Hader, and Chris Statlander, four-way, I'm tired of these multi-women matches.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Can we just get a one-on-one match?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would rather see Tecla against Hader or Tecla against Statlander, one-on-one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Probably not Tecla versus Shida.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think she'd have been all that good since she's come back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But she actually has shown more personality

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[SPEAKER_00]: in her character that she's ever shown before.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just I'm not sure that it's necessarily working the way that they want it to work.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's kind of creative.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think she's actually been pretty decent at it, but she's not known Caesar is like a main event star.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't think it works as well as it did.

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[SPEAKER_00]: As it would if she was a little bit higher in people's eyes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I mean, honestly, like if it was going to be a one-on-one match, like the way the booking has been done, it probably should be her.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but maybe the reason it's a four ways because Tony doesn't feel confident enough in putting Tecla and she'd a, you know, singles match on paper view.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, she does Helping Tecla beat one of these baby faces, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like is that the story that we're going to I think I think what's probably going to end up happening is she didn't stat lander are going to be arguing and take each other out and then Tecla beats later.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, can she to join Tecla and her crew?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think that's where that's going.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's possible, but she's really fit with that group.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The angry Japanese woman, yeah, with the spooky talks expiders, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe maybe maybe they bring in somebody else that she can kind of tag up with, like, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, or I, but I know, or it could be that maybe, maybe she didn't stat lander like are like united and then end up taking out Jamie Hayter and then technically gets the pin and then, you know, maybe she didn't stat lander beat the crop out of Hayter and then else Windsor makes a save and then we got a tag team title for you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, he all steaks, she didn't stop lying under against baby face, uh, brawl and bird.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, Owen Cup, quarter final matches, first round matches, Samojo and Will Osprey.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Have these guys wrestled prior?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, not off time my head.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's, I mean, that's a cool match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not, and you know, I'm glad it's on paperview, but like it could easily be on dynamite.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like it feels like a dynamite match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm looking at, I don't see, no, they haven't, it doesn't look like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is Osprey going to do a space flying tiger drop and some of Joe's just going to move out of the way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, God.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I hope so.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's a it's a weird one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And is there like it's a continental title.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, or it's not the continental title.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So people can interfere, which is weird.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I just did a quick search.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And unless I'm looking wrong, like I don't even think they've been in a tag team match against each other.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I don't think these two have ever been in a match on opposite sides before.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I could do so.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I like matches like this where we've never really seen it before or we've seen it so sparingly or rare so it's kind of cool and and I think it that makes that does make it kind of all we're in We're both in different places at different times and you know and when they're in the same place there are different spots in the card so yeah it's just never Really been a thing and even now they're kind of like small joke kind of feels quite a bit below where we'll ask for you is on the card, but

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I guess it's close enough to when he's been the champion that it doesn't make and you haven't seen him wrestle in a while.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Joe has been out since the last of me wrestle was for the world title.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, um, right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Bandito.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Bandito and Swarve.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that could steal the show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I don't think it's going to be the best match on the show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's, you know, I mean, Osprey and Takeshita, if they make it to the ring, or I mean, Takeshita and Nocada, if they make it to the ring, I mean, that's five stars minimum.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, like, but, yeah, I think this will be, you know, in the running from match to the night, and they're going to have a wild match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like Bandito is so great and Swarve is,

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[SPEAKER_01]: you know, just as good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so I'm and you know, I know why the main event too is going to be great, but yeah, I'm really looking forward to this and I'm leaning, you know, heavily towards work, but I do think there's possibilities if spend detail wins that of what they can do next.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Willow against Alex Windsor.

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[SPEAKER_00]: now that's the second uh... women's match on this show and you know because the women's world championship

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[SPEAKER_00]: because it is for the world title, they'll probably give that match more time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I actually think this match is a little bit more interesting, but it is in a tournament.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not for Willow's belt, but yeah, I'm kind of interested in what they do here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because I either look pretty strong.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Either one of them could win.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The fact that it's not for the title, I'd almost lean towards outs Windsor.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and then you can do a rematch for the title and also Alex Windsor making it to at least the finals and possibly even winning it when the tournament's in Wembley.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean there's there's some mileage there but then you need a strong heel on the other side.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't think that's Athena.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, she's not established enough to the AWS.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Actually, I think the title match will be at Wimley, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Not the tournament fund.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right, yeah, the title match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So the winner of the tournament, challenging for the title.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So Windsor would be, oh, yeah, you're right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so wouldn't be Athena, yeah, you're right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, could be Athena and Windsor in the finals.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And honestly, depending on who the champion is, either one of those could be a big match at Wimley.

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[SPEAKER_01]: if Mercedes has the title.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So then you would need to have Mercedes winning the title from Tecla at some point between now and I mean, they got two paper used after this before all in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I can't foresee a world unless for some reason that we don't know about that Mercedes isn't wrestling right now and maybe can't or isn't available for some reason and I'm not trying to start any rumors or anything, but I'm trying to think of why aren't we seeing our TV every week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: um she's as far as I know she's healthy she was wrestling up until about a month and a half ago she was here and went to pig wrestling the night before dynamite was here I mean everybody assumed she was going to be on that show and she wasn't so I I think there's a really good chance that Mercedes wins the AW women's title add either forbidden door or retribution

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[SPEAKER_01]: and then ends up defending against the winner of the tournament.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And if that's the case, then I think the winner, you've got three choices, willow, Alex Windsor, and Athena, any one of those three, I think, could challenge Mercedes, and it would be a really big match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: As the biggest they could do, obviously, in a perfect world, it would be Mercedes and Tony, but obviously, I don't think Tony's available.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Darby Allen, MGF, I still think MGF is going to win this match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know you think Darby's going to win this match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But the intrigue is there, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like what does that have to be seen anything about the betting odds?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was actually going to ask you if that was why you were leaning Darby.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I have not seen them at all.

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[SPEAKER_01]: In fact, I'm going to Google it right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But sometimes on this computer that I have, it doesn't work.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, updated odds.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Here we go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it means he's a 4 to 1 favorite.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Interesting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So if you're a gambler and you think MJF's going to win, you should probably put some money on it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The International Championship, I've got it to catch, so that's pretty much a pick, like a pickum, although to catch it is slightly favored.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Nothing else on this show is even as close as Darby Allen and MJF, and although Darby is the favorite.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, everything else is the same strategy as Jack.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's super interested that yesterday those those odds were updated because I think when it opened it was flipped it was MJF was minus four

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that last week's show now they either tip their hand or they did such a good job of convincing you one way that people are now thinking that dark is going because I mean we talked about this in the discord to where I said like I here's why I think and then you said well I guess I've done a good job of convincing people then you know that they definitely have and and the other thing about it and you got to give credit to Darby.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Smith is wrecking his body to put these matches on that have been excellent main events now, you know, because of these shitty ratings, we have no idea if they're if it's successful or not, but he's you can't blame him for anything because I think he's done an exceptional job, whether he's positioned as the guy or not, like that's to be debated, but in these matches,

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[SPEAKER_01]: and I definitely think like there's no way you can deny it like the people that are watching I mean a Darby title match is something that people that are watching the show are looking for to every week and possibly even every show like what about one with speeder though are you interested in that match oh yeah oh yeah I love speedball like he's probably one of my

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, at least 10 top 10 favorites in wrestling right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe top five.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Darby is Darby.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm sure this matches can be wild.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've seen Bailey have some incredible matches in the last three years.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't see any reason to believe that this one won't be as good as any of them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Remember that one you had with freaking call fletcher.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like yeah, that was the one that I hated.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, but you hated it for different reasons.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You hated it for the same reason.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Everybody loved it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So they were killing like they were trying to injure each other for real in that match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, what are you guys doing?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that'll be looking at same here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I mean, no question.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, darling Bailey is insane.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like when it comes to punishment that delivers and takes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Darby is Darby, like, yeah, I'm really looking for somebody in our, in our, that was in our show chat last week mentioned, and I think they might be in the discord too, they mentioned that they were going to the show or they know they were thinking about going to the show and is there anything that we could tell them to convince them to go and we're talking to dynamite.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, uh, Darby's people.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I said, you can see that match and it's going to be incredible.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So thank you for actually a dynamite actually has a pretty pretty good card for the dynamite collision, I guess.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't know which is on dynamite, which is on collision, but yeah, it's pretty loaded up for, especially for a go home show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the funny thing is, is we always say, or I always say anyways, I don't know what you, but I'm always saying like, oh, they should save matches, you know, like at least saving for TV, because they always load up these paper views.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can't say that this time because they're giving us great matches on TV too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so it's not like I can say I can't look at that line.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I get some of those Owen matches could be on TV, but you know like I'm not saying they don't belong on the paper view either.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm sure that paper view is going to be great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and these Dynamites have been pretty darn good too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're in-ring.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I would say I'm not a super fan of some of the booking, but the matches are great and these Derby main events are incredible.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, so you will be back with Jeff after the first two hours of the

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so you guys will have your own little preview of the show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then like I said, Jeremy and I will be back Sunday evening.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think some of them shake them ropes with Jeff as well on Thursday.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, no, nice.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I will talk maybe a little bit WWE as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think he kind of want to stay with me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, not one just because we're doing it today before.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because you guys do it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he's doing it all the time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, okay, cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That is it from here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Thanks everyone for checking in.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I am he is Paul.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I am WG.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We will see you and we see you peace out.