NJPW World Tag League Finale & WK20 Attendance Surge: Young Lions Rising | Speaking of Strong Style

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're down to the end of World Tag League 2025, and we have one set of finalists.

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[SPEAKER_01]: One more will be determined tomorrow.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we're going to look over how we got here, how we got into that first semi-final match, who won it, and what we can expect going forward as the clock continues to tick.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Only five matches left in the career of Hiroshi Tanahashi as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's all part of the story too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: A few other subplots have been going on in the meantime.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe setting things up for early 2026.

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[SPEAKER_01]: With Jeremy Feinstein, I'm Stephen Conway, this is Speaking of Strong Style.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Welcome, everyone, speaking of strong style.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We discussed the news, issues, and events surrounding New Japan, Pro Wrestling, work contributors to the fight game media network.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we had a lot of shows this past week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We had the final two nights of block action from each of the blocks in the World Tagly tournament.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then we had our first semi-final.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that just took place yesterday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So

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[SPEAKER_01]: What to deal with that?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And frankly, Jeremy, I think that there were some strong matches.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I wouldn't say any classics, but some strong matches toward the end.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we got a pretty solid set of semi-finalists at the end.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it all shook out fairly well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't have a lot of complaints about how this ended up being booked with a couple of reservations.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I do have a couple of them and we'll get to those.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But overall, what did you think is we moved

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[SPEAKER_01]: a lot of how we thought.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, the only thing that I felt like I didn't get right was gave kidding you on a studio going in because I was figured that they were going to do the the evil angle and have a have a true bad guy in there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, no, we're uh, we're getting in there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're getting three of the best teams that you could possibly have like moving forward.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then you have the tag team champions on the other that are trying to make their name on them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Man, one to there to complain about at this point, uh, the World Tag League is cooking, come into it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I feel like the company took it seriously.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They put their best teams forward in a lot of ways here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, uh, U.S. V.A.A.

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[SPEAKER_01]: guys, well, this glad to see us as what's up, gang.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Tag League is spicy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, there, there is a little bit there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's that enough the, uh, they're sent to that, uh, gauntlet thing if you're paying attention to as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought, yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we've had some developments with young lions too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to talk about it in there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're moving into a thing now, Jeremy, where we're starting to see young lions kind of pair up and choose main roster guys to learn under more so than just being kind of

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[SPEAKER_01]: just generic guys and black boots and trunks on the roster trying to make their way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: These guys are starting to join factions or at least pick out mentors for themselves.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, that's something we hadn't really seen much of as we saw Zach Saber Jr. literally just grab Jose Fujito off the streets and say you're one of us now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But now you're seeing these guys take the initiative and there are several examples of that, even just in the past week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I totally with you on this, the other thing that I was noticing about this world tag league is we're going to get into the whole thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to break down everything it happened, but really important.

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[SPEAKER_00]: is everyone once you're caught up is to watch the December 10th backstage comments because there were a number of very interesting things said spoken elicited.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Whatever adverb that you want to use they started dropping a lot of stuff about what was going to be happening in the near future

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[SPEAKER_00]: A lot of people don't watch your fat stage comments, but the December 10th, if you have the opportunity, you should watch those.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They are going to give you a lot of context for rest of Kingdom.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I agree.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Jeremy Morris here, glad to see him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He says, I heard about another retirement.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Next year, I can't remember who I believe.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Tiger Mass 4.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, stepping down.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's going to be one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Although he's living his best life.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's starting to pick up other matches and other places.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, we'll see how that goes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: uh... some companies and in some countries even that we're not used to seeing him in so i am good for him i mean if anyone's earned it man that guy put in the time didn't he spend tiger mask for far longer i mean i'd have to look it up but i mean it's even tiger mask longer than the rest of the combined probably get up to i'm gonna say that he literally literally aging out of the character

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's very very close because it was I'm trying to remember what year he officially became Tiger Mask, but I mean from Siamat to him it's he's probably been he's probably very close.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's probably very close.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'd have to look at it up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just thought of that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The man's man has been in that character for a very long time, and there's a chance it will continue.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Probably there was Shoma Kato or Masitori Yasada, probably the two candidates right there is to take that on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I keep thinking Kato just because he keeps mentioning CMLL over and over again, and that seems like the place you'd go to learn how to be Tiger Mask.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So what are we talking about today?

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to talk about the World Tag League.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Certainly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to talk about what matches we can read from the T-Leaves.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Thanks to all of the show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And

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[SPEAKER_00]: You want to try and figure out the attendance of what Rethel Kingdom is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now that I've got to complete hell out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I saw a lot of bugs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, yeah, yeah, we've sold the building out several times.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, as it turns out, they keep adding more seats and they just vanish as soon as they're on fail.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think that's the thing that we're going to be talking about.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Since I'm going to be one of those tickets there, I wanted to make sure that I mentioned before we get too far into this show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We have.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The podcast in Summit 2026, the Tokyo Dome City fan meetup, featuring the SuperJacast.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We weren't stiff, keeping it strong style, and I will be represented speaking of strong style at the hub British pub at noon on January 4th in Tokyo at the Tokyo Doblin.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We literally blocked from the retirement.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We will be there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We will celebrate Tana Hashis retirement and Suji's win, or we shall sweep over Okada winning and to cash it out retaining.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All of these possibilities are doorstep.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and we all know how alcohol makes things better and or worse, depending on your consumption and or mood.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we're all going to be there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: A lot of us meeting each other for the first time in this podcast and comment, but we want you to join us to make it more fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's awkward for you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's awkward for us.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Buy the merch, hang out, talk about our shared love for New Japan and how we all

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[SPEAKER_00]: to share in retirement ceremony for Tonahashi because let's be honest.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're hoping the match is gonna be really good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It had a really good chance to be good, but we're not here for the match, we're here for the retirement ceremony.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because that thing is gonna be awesome.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And this is where we're gonna kick it off on January 4th and I wanted to make sure I got that plug out there cause I am doing my best.

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[SPEAKER_00]: to push it as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And while we were at it, we're going to put that banner back up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, man, where is it?

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[SPEAKER_00]: There we go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: keep it a strong style guy has created this shop and they call it a shinnahan podcast 72026.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It is going to be where you can get all the merch for the show and that is that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I got the plug out of the way Steven and with that I wanted to add Jeremy Donovan and young boy Josh are going to be joining us next Thursday for the official

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[SPEAKER_00]: 20, 20 fifth, wrestling kingdom 20, speaking of strong style, speaking of keeping its strong style, wrestling kingdom preview.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm really excited for that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It has been too long in the making, and I hope that you all join us next week for that extra long, and for a big,

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I want to mention this too, Jeremy Moore asked a question here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What areas were affected by the earthquake?

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[SPEAKER_01]: There was a 7.5 earthquake that hit Japan the other day.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was in the Northeast part about 400 miles from Tokyo.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It shouldn't affect the New Japan schedule and injured about two dozen people, unfortunately.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And there's a bit of a mega quake watch goes on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what you can really do about an earthquake watch other than just stay close to doorways and door frames, but there is one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the one that hit injured a few people and it was definitely a biggie.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Thankfully, far enough away from Tokyo that in major population centers that it wasn't worse, of course we saw one a while back that was quite a bit worse, and this one not so much, but it's definitely a concern.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's always a concern.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's always a threat of earthquakes in Japan.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a rather seismic area for that type of activity, and we just have to hope for the best.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But the good news is right now, Japan is

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[SPEAKER_01]: incredibly good at recovering from disasters like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And this one was not as bad as you would think a seven and a half earthquake.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, there's no such thing as a good one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And but it was a long, long way from Tokyo, which is basically the area in which they're spending the rest of the year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're going to be down south.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's it's winter time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They try to stay away from Hokkaido for the most part of, they were up there a couple of weeks ago.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So they try to stay down south and on Hanshu, the main island there that has the biggest population centers and that's what they're going to be for the rest of this year and then of course, Tokyo for the dome, those two shows there, the Russell Kingdom and New Year's Dash both in Tokyo itself.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So shouldn't, but shouldn't affect anything, but obviously if there's another quake,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that's rough.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You just never know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, uh, oh, good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We got, uh, we have a man here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There they go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Brad's series is I made it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Got caught up doing some movie listing work, excellent.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he says, can you believe we're just a few weeks away from the big show?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Where did the year go?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've been saying that for months that I just, I couldn't believe it was September, then I couldn't believe it was October already.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And now I can't believe that it's December.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I should really start shopping.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think is the main point.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm trying to make here on December 11th.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I should probably start shopping because Christmas is in two

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll tell you this much, the second my wife gave me a Christmas list, I bought that shit, and I had it wrapped under the tree.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And she was like, why are these gifts all wrapped?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Why have everything done?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I looked her dead in the ice, even, and I said, I'm going to Japan.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I want nothing else on my plate.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I am not doing anything to jeopardize this whatsoever.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And if that means I'm going to get off my ass and wrap your gifts and have everything done.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you come home every day and in a good mood, you look at that tree and see gift under the tree for you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's going to make my life a whole lot easier again, ready for today.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, very enough.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, you've been doing that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was, of course, watching the shows.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And because all this stuff is going off of peacock, the old stuff is coming off of peacock, the WWE stuff as their contract winds up with peacock.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Only until the end of the month, I will those archives be on there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I've been cramming every moment I can into and watching old midsouth and mid Atlantic and all the stuff that I loved is a little kid and just trying to get all that in a nice clean high definition.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Although most people feel

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it looks like a lot of this stuff's going to end up on YouTube on their WWE YouTube channels and so it'll probably be available again, but I like how neatly it's laid out here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you think that'll be like a 499 archive out to us kind of thing?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I bucked to, can you do that on YouTube?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can do that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What I have heard people

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[SPEAKER_01]: suggest, you know, just kind of kicking ideas around is that perhaps there isn't the market for a paywall type of service that will be profitable for them to run regarding the archives.

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[SPEAKER_01]: However, because with YouTube, you get paid by the click.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because, you know, even if they only watch one match, if they watch a few minutes, you know, that counts as a click, you know how all that stuff goes with the world.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They feel like maybe the old stuff, maybe there are enough nerds like me that'll just click on that stuff and they'll make a little bit of money off clicks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: More than they would, if they put it behind a paywall and had anyone just go, well, I'm not gonna watch stuff from 40 years ago and, you know, that's really for us die hard.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So maybe it's a better YouTube vehicle for them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, just to go back to that whole thing about this year, man, I love thinking like maybe we dropped something at Christmas about the year and review and I can't even believe the January was like almost a year ago, like this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We do, we come back here every week and we talk and it feels like a week, we don't talk to each other in between, but it also feels like the blink of an eye when it's all said and done.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like once you're all in the chamber and like you put them to bed these episodes, it's like you don't realize that we're about to hit 200 episodes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: at a place almost 200 and then not only that like I flew out to Japan on January 1st last year, and that does not feel like a year ago does not feel like a year ago.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it's in the rear view mirror and life right now, it's just like man and given like.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what you've got going on in your personal life right now, but just from Thanksgiving to New Year's, it's just a watch.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like you just got to give up on like making sure that you should do any extra commitment.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You got people to me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You got family commitments.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You got all of these different things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so like you just got to look at somebody like, yeah, I didn't get to it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to tell you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and we have a big plan for 2026 here in the show and I wanted to mention one other thing here before we get into World Tag League by the way, he's not here alive, Jeremy says he's not prepared for wrestling kingdom yet, it's coming though, it's coming quick, Colin, we're glad to have heard from you this week, Colin, he made, he left a comment on our our YouTube and you know, it'd been a few weeks since Colin was able to join us live, he's one of our first and most consistent listeners.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, glad to hear from you, but glad you're all right up there in Scotland.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And here's one from Brad, if you could do it again, would you still go to rest of Kingdom last year or would you have held off another year for the bigger retirement?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, Brad, I'm glad you asked.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't have to keep him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Keep in mind, we've talked about it before, rest of Kingdoms on my birthday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: January 4th is my birthday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And has been since 1975.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So longer than it spent in New Japan's big day.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But that was my 50th.

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[SPEAKER_01]: this past year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it was a big one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was a big number and it was a gift partially mostly really I mean the the airfare of the hotel has stuff it was kind of a trip that my girlfriend of many years 13 years in now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She gave to me and it was for the big round birthday the big five oh half a hundred.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was a wonderful gift.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was a brilliant gift and we do big things on the zeros, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that was the year it happened, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: The question is, what I do that over again?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because it was a wonderful 50th birthday gift for the right actor.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was the best and it floored me and she said, and she didn't come with me, because we went together in May, as you might remember, I was away from there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But, and she said, we're going to go together for two weeks in May.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So here in January, I want you to just

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[SPEAKER_01]: do you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, just go to all the wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She said, I'm not going to go because she's right, I would have sat there and said, she won't want to sit through all these shows or be by herself.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I won't go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And she said, I don't want that to be a thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He says, I want you to go to every show you can.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I want you to go to two to walk on, spend all the money.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I want you to do it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I wouldn't trade that for anything.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I wouldn't trade that gift for anything at all.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Would I like to be there this year?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, good God.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You have any idea, Brad, the FOMO.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I am feeling, and what I'm going to be feeling is I shovel kettle chips into my face on January 4th, knowing that all this is going on, and I can't be there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I will be back, and I know that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's cushioning the blow a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I will return.

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[SPEAKER_01]: to the dome.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I will return to rest looking them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're going to have to turn.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I may never go back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, and I keep thinking about that, that Noah show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's going to be a sternum show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's going to be a Mari goal show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's going to be a yes, foam.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I have come one half looking me on the phone to make sure I go to a sternum show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, I'm trying, but the schedule will get no little tight.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's packed in and there's really no way to get to all of them just because a lot of them are going on concurrently.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so you just have to pick one of the other.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I bought tickets for the Noah show on the first.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Text.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've got tickets for the DDT show on the third.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I've got

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[SPEAKER_01]: Where's that DDT show again?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sorry.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you very much.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I did it specifically because I will somewhat familiar with DDT and I needed to go to a show of Corkin.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was like, they're wasn't, they're wasn't.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he like, I want to go to this promotion.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to do this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just need to be in the building.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just need to be, I just need the vibes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just need, I just need to run through it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so the Noah show, it's hilarious.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It sounds like Nighto might be on that show now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Nighto and Bushi and XG was, I wonder who that is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I wonder who that might be.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so it seems kind of obvious to me, Steven, that Nighto may or may not have had a non-compete in Japan through the 24-25.

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[SPEAKER_01]: When midnight strikes, he's a free man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That really feels like has he never did appear in any wrestling show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Did he know it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, in fact, he barely made it out to the stuff in Europe or anything else.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He really did make the factory body that that is, it's Bouchy partner.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It could look at it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, couldn't Mr. Ants just scammed him and Bouchy out of everything.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, look, you're going to hit a lot of very important spots while you're there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're going to Budacon Hall.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a historic building.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're for Noah, New Japan is held big shows there, but a couple of G1 finals in Budacon Hall, but those all Japan main events that are all time classics that happen in that building, you're gonna go to Corrican, which is Mecca, they call Madison Square Garden, the Mecca of Professional Wrestling, a girl amongst them did anyway.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it is, it is, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: But,

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[SPEAKER_01]: everyone's work corrican, you know, like everybody, not everybody's work medicine square garden, everybody that's ever been to Japan is pretty much in any jacked out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: significant way is work corrican all and then you're going to the dumb.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, what's it's you're hitting some great spots, just make sure you go to two to Wokan as well as Tocan and I was yeah, I was it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: both that we told you to come and check out the baseball Hall of Fame near there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's in the dome.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's in the dome.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now watch out, they're tricky with the operating hours.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're tricky with the operating hours.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm literally at a hotel and a store.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think I could probably like figure out what hours they're open and maybe it's the art regular.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they're close when you really feel like they should be open.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like there's like my world when they not be open that day.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just pay attention because they're like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's a lot to learn and I've spent a considerable amount of time on YouTube watching videos about how to behave appropriately and not embarrass yourself in Japan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And a couple of interesting things that I saw were if you're at the like the outside market, you don't take food and walk away, you can there and you eat a thing and I was like, oh, that's good to know because I definitely want to walk away.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's actually a pretty big one and no one's going to yell at you, but what you'll get is the the dumbass foreigner doesn't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's what you want to avoid, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to at least show you want to show respect and thanks like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But that's actually a big one is if you buy food at the convenience stores and there's great food at the convenience stores, you walk outside the convenience store, stand and eat it kind of in front of the shop.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's what you do and then you walk

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[SPEAKER_01]: Diverses, you can take a coffee or a tea and walk down the street and sip it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That doesn't seem to bother anybody and they do it all the time, but food is a different animal.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're a different animal.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a stupid phrase.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Food is a different thing there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're supposed to just stand outside the shop from what you bought it and eat it there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Some of the places, some of the food halls have seating.

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[SPEAKER_01]: A lot of them don't.

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[SPEAKER_01]: A lot of them don't have anywhere to stand spaces at a premium.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So large dining rooms are a luxury, not an necessity there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so sometimes you just got to stand against a pillar near the food stand and each food right there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yes, that's a good one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I get going to have to get accumated to that because really all I want to do is when I'm hungry and grab some food and go back to my hotel room and eat it and silence there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I'm not sure I'm allowed to take away from wherever I'm going.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you can do that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just keep it in the bag.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The main thing is like opening it up and eating it while you're walking around.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They don't like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But you're perfectly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's perfectly fine to carry food back your hotel.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I did it every night.

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[SPEAKER_01]: On the way back from the dome, I would always stop by family martin.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Got foamy cheeky.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're a little fried chicken.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's fantastic.

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[SPEAKER_01]: One of the best things there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we'll get a little thing of the ice cream.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I would have a little dessert up in my room and the only Gary's fantastic too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So anyway, there's no lot for me to go wild on it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm starting

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you want to talk about this world tag league, which we've got to get around this eventually, but there was some good action here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So let's just summarize again, there are too many matches just go step by step by step.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we have one more question that we're going to get to hear Jeremy in just a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: A block.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So when we last left you, there were several teams still in the mix.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The ones that had been eliminated, Taichi and Kojima, they just, they won their very first match, but had lost out going into this week and then Chase Owens and Yuzuro Takahashi had not won yet going into this week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So there's not a whole lot of point talking about them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They had to match against each other.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Chase and Yuzuro got it so that everybody

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[SPEAKER_01]: Taichi and Coach MS need to be friends.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They have not split up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They have not particularly argued.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's been a little bit of kidding in the comments about how they're both getting old and things, but Taichi wanted to win one forum.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The other thing that happened with that is Taichi talked to Master Toriyasada and mentioned that, hey, you and I are both from Hokkaido.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've been guiding you along.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You've been teaming with me a lot, but,

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you want to go and work with Heromo Takahashi, I have no issue with that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I will not stand in your way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's opening the door for Yasa to work with other people since these young lines seem to have tied themselves to various main roster members.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you made a point of saying, yeah, we're both from Hokkaido.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm rooting for you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll help you out anytime I can.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But if you want to work with other people, you're welcome to do so that indicates to me that we're going to be

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[SPEAKER_00]: The more you're off in a work with some of those guys, the better he's going to get and Heroma may be a little crazy, but he's an excellent technician in the ring.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So working with him and doing all that could be good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It would be interesting though whether, you know, if he's going to go unafiliated, if he's going to be fighting with that, the whole downhill aspect of it is a little, a little muddled kind of we're going to have to see how that goes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And this actually translates in here at Jeremy's question that how strong is Rev Pro in the NJPW partnership right now seeing a lot overlapped with progress wrestling and I know they work with WWE progress, so I had to ask as I've got rid of pro on demand.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Rick Pro in England is one of their more solid consistent partners and several guys, including what showed Omeno Tomoakioka, Great O'Con, have had their excursions with Brent Pro.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's still pretty strong and I would not be surprised if Marashima went over there or if it was part of

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[SPEAKER_01]: Shoma Kados, it seems like Marashima and Kado are the ones that are closest to going off on excursion if they go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think that relationship is still quite strong.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not unusual at all for New Japan talent to show up on rip pro cards.

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[SPEAKER_01]: When New Japan isn't touring.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think if you have rip pro on demand, you're probably going to be seeing New Japan talent over the course of

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, not really, so that could be as bad for Yassin.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Who knows?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, I'm not, Jeremy and I have to kind of ask me the stuff offline if I knew much about Repro Progress.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't follow them too much other than when they tend to overlap with AEW and Newt Japan, Repro at least.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's just,

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[SPEAKER_00]: more territory war, CMLL and AAA, New Japan and NOAA, everybody's got kind of a territory bay, if you will, that they kind of a faith bought to run part of their promotion in there and out and whatnot and find it just this, but the the the promotions itself,

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[SPEAKER_00]: I could take a leave.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think they're fine, but, you know, Luke Jacobs, a couple of these other guys that are in there, you got a guy I know David with L, that is just really big on one of the young baby faces there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I've got a few, like kind of knowledge bits of there, but there's no way shape or form I can speak with any expertise about either promotion.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Robby ex has been a reproverite for a while and he's really excelled in New Japan.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's one of the ways that it is the partnership has been beneficial plus giving them a place to send the guys to be like in this instance, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: New Japan is still the big fifth.

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[SPEAKER_00]: New Japan is not the big fish.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I give me W and not the big fish against all of these other things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, when you are doing that,

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[SPEAKER_00]: The latest show seemed to hint that we're going to get back and it's urgent with some of these young lions with where they were going to want to go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And maybe it was a budget maneuver and maybe this path generation there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah, we'll just not do with them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, we'll have a different direction with them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The reproved totally a fine place for them to go and cut their T, you know, Oscar and you know, we're there for a little bit too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And also true.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So

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[SPEAKER_00]: fine, but I tend to not gravitate to work promotions where New Japan is the bigger fish, because they're there to cut their teeth at New Japan and get better and rise up that stage.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't go backwards, if that's, if that makes any sense.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Brad mentions, we'll get to the other comments as well, Brad, when we get to those points in the show, they said they should bring back the young lion cups as they have like a dozen guys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, the young lions have been pushing for it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it might actually happen there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They've been mentioning it a lot and they haven't done one a long time since the the Watto Oca days and kid and kid and mora who's passed away and things those were the stars of the last young lion cups give you an idea of how long it's been since they had one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, so world tag league, let's go ahead and talk about this tournament here and what we had was I mentioned the two teams that were eliminated.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They were the only ones that weren't part of things as we went to Osaka.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is back at the Osaka Prefectural Hall in Numerados and on this one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Bishaman came in strong, they defeated kid and suji in Osaka, and they had a shoto on kid to get that win.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now that put kid and suji in a bit of a predicament, they had actually entered the week in the lead on points, but now they had kind of a nasty tiebreaker situation going, and but they were only in the lead by two.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So now after the Osaka loss where Bishaman defeated them,

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[SPEAKER_01]: They had, there were several teams on the same number of points, and not all of Kidd and Suji's tie-breakers look great, so they needed to win on the last day, and that's what this lost to Beishman did, put Beishman in play, and put Kidd and Suji in a more precarious position.

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[SPEAKER_01]: By the way, after that match, we've been talking about young lines.

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[SPEAKER_01]: After that match in Osaka, it was the main event, and during the post-match comments in the ring, Goto made Matsumoto an official Goto Revolutionary Army member.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So now I guess there's this little subset of Hontai is the Revolutionary Army, and it's Goto Yoshihashi and Matsumoto, a part of it, just as a trio's tournament's coming up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Go figure, her trio's got what's coming up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, so that was a part of the thing, of course, Matsumoto has been trying to get in with Goro trying to be great shade himself with it showing up whether he wanted to or not in his corner.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Goro seems to have liked the kids' pluck and decided to bring him to the cut of his jib.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So there you go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, say, that was the thing there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then Shingo and Maloney defeated Yano and Bolton.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That took Yano and Bolton out of the mix kept Shingo and Maloney the war dragons in it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Brad mentions that some of these teams need to stay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The war dragons was great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Monster saw us awesome again.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he also said he got a huge kick out of Finland in Heromo.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I agree.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, if there is some sort of roster shake up, I would love for Shingo and Maloney to stay in the same one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think they're, they aren't exactly the same guy, but there's a little of that, you know, straightforward, looking in the eye and fight ethos of the two that works.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and could work as an in a faction and I would like to see the war dragon state together too or the the key to kiddo brothers, whatever that however you want to call them but they had a double maiden japan on yano that put them in a win in your in situation with the shaman so this is how all the drama was building here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The other match that mattered that night in Osaka evil and Fale to feed a desperate or an ishikawa and that kind of took desperate or an ishikawa out of it

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[SPEAKER_01]: House of torture in the mix on the final day, just a threatened to ruin our goblin style, just hanging out, what do you think of the show in Osaka, Jeremy?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought it laid the groundwork for an excellent clothing night, but it didn't wow me like a couple of the fanalities of the other night, and I thought the of the two

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean, but if we're if we're scaling it to the other shows, it was the one I felt like I would just air kind of thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, Beishaman and Suji, get kid.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was a good match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was a really good main event.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And of course, kid and Suji had been in each other's face throughout the tournament, getting angry at one another.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And there was a bit of a twist in that tale right there where Suji actually went up to

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[SPEAKER_01]: Gave over the course of the week and apologize after the hardcore the difference is really began with that hardcore match, yeah, although wasn't literally a hardcore match, but it developed into one with this for out of an Ishikawa and sushi said we don't need that, I don't want to do that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Course the real reason is they don't want sushi anywhere near tables and chairs going into a major match, but they use that as a point of friction with the two afterwards, sushi apologized.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And said, no, you know, that I, there are, there are how did he put it, he said, there's room for all types of professional wrestling and kid kind of looked at him a little rarely.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then later on in an important moment, Suji really put himself out there to try to save kid and afterwards, kids said, I saw that, he said, you know, we're going to go in there and we're going to, we're going to win this thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I thought that was

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[SPEAKER_01]: I still think they're gonna find each other.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I still think they want to find it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But we'll talk about that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, they have more to come.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that was what was going on with those teams there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Met some of the subplots that have been happening.

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[SPEAKER_01]: As we went into the, as we go into the semi-finals, kittens who's you're okay with each other.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Kind of.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I kind of, when I was looking at those metrics on the fifth, you know, I thought like Bishman and Kimpsu

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[SPEAKER_00]: the best match on the card and it ended up being the best, if not the second best match compared to Schinger Wardragan's and only in Yano.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like that was also a really good match of that night, but I was kind of getting to a point with Kid and Suji where I already know what Suji's grand plan is and it's the destination to Kesha at Rethel Kingdom.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I get that they're trying

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[SPEAKER_00]: to put a little attention on Yoda's Fuji and give him a little bit of a story going forward.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But nothing about this story elevates him as a single star going into the match with Tikeshna.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so, it's not interesting to me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I get that they're going back and forth.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I get that Fuji apologised to kid.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And when you watch the backstage comment from the tent,

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[SPEAKER_00]: can't apologize to Fuji and they get back on the same page.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's all there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's fine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It just feels like a time pattern story.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm fine with all the other guys in the world tagly having me like the hormone, the family, and the shingo war dragon, and the Kiti Kiti brothers and all that stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But what it comes to go to food you right now, like your story is making this guy look like he's at the top of the mountain and nothing can touch him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: going into rest looking them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's the one criticism I have about all this is I feel like that not even a plot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I think what my turnout is setting up something for sushi later because we have a new beginning in the United States.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Gabe Kid makes an awful lot of sense for that spot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It could be a match where the champion could win.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just get something out of a night there in America with not an American, you know, of course Gabe is gave some great bread.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But it does appear to be staying in the United States more and more as far as who else he's working for.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So having Gabe is the challenger for new and nothing's it's nothing's announced, but again, T leaves that that would be a place where that match could happen and just to give him something on the horizon because I don't think you want to

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[SPEAKER_01]: to blow a big match against a major Japanese opponent in America when you have other new beginning cards in Japan to do the really good, I'm gonna really good observation if that could be the,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Louder, we've new Japan, whatever match that they do that kind of didn't send off for game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Fine, that's what they do with the food and dinner J White did a couple of the other guys who have one last like US show and then Bon Voyage.

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[SPEAKER_01]: U.S. for you guys as they can't have a young alliance cups as most in the dojo haven't debuted yet, but we do have six to have so you can do kind of a round robin thing with those six.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And in fact, I think that's how many people were in the previous one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was a round robin type of tournament.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe they had eight, but there's nothing to do with six.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Should they choose?

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[SPEAKER_01]: They haven't announced anything.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, there are sex and you can do it with sex.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I would think all right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What else we have here?

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, well, okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we're down to the last night of a block action.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And in that one, sushi and kid defeated Tahiti and Kojima and they had.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I mean, Bellagaport on conclusion about the time of, oh, well, they're going in.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, like I said, Tahichi and Kojima got the, the win on the very first night and then lost out the rest of the way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, you know, he said it was on ceremony.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They didn't even bother with a whole ton of drama as to whether they would pull the upset.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was pretty much just putting over sushi and kid.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There is such a passive way to say, yeah, do you have two bad asses and the best in, like, New Japan, they did it without it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Once they got on the same page, they were unstoppable.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, that really not the story I got out of this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was just a wavy way, and it just did not feel like that was conveyed, even though specifically in the ring, that was kind of the story they were telling.

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[SPEAKER_01]: After that, we had Yano and Bolton against Falle and evil and low and behold, House of Torture tripped on a slip done a banana peel before they could get into the semi-finals.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They had yo on Japanese commentary and went all the House of Torture interference began, yo hopped the rail and started helping out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They, for a while, they'd handcuffed Bolton and Yano to the, you know, they're doing a whole bunch of,

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[SPEAKER_01]: things with the whiskey and weapons and all that stuff and Yo just went on a terror and helped everybody out and in the end got the whiskey and spit it in Fale's face and then they rolled up Fale both Yano and Bolton and pinned him and that saved us from house torture as it turns out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So they were they were out of it and it left Suji and kid.

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[SPEAKER_01]: In on tie breakers that their 10 points would hold up and it all came down to the final match between the war dragons and be shaman.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I was relieved.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't really want to see Falei and the semi finals, so I would have understood having a strong heel team in there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I was perfectly all right with not watching FLA in in the same as the good news here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They closed the loop, if you will, because Bolton Oleg had to fuse the FLA and then he ended up dropping the title to evil.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so with them getting the win over evil and FLA, you can kind of wrap that whole thing up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and put a bow on it and just hope that olig doesn't have to go anywhere near house of torture.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now the Aaron Wolf is here and just kiss that feuding goodbye.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is that's been going on?

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[SPEAKER_00]: said she won, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like that whole thing was born out of G1 feuding.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so boat knowledge has been in the, uh, the ma of the house of torture hurricane for the last five months.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Good for you, buddy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You escaped as a win.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, and this is one of the matches that we talked about last week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They could go either way, you know, if like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: you typically don't get in on a loss.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we're predicting it and it's like, well, Oleg could be the spoiler here or house the torture just does what house the torture does, and go forward on a team that no one is going to look twice as they be.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then 50, 50.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So down to Shingo in Maloney against Bishop on this is a terrific match as you can imagine the big move time toward the end was excellent This is something the Bishop on of course with their team work.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They can come in and out of moves and You don't even see the other one coming but the timing is always perfect.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just really strong tag team work from these two.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They are one of the best tag teams in the world and Shingo Maloney

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[SPEAKER_01]: They have really come into their own excellent team here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They were fighting in and out of the show toe.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was an exciting match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But finally, they hit the show toe on Drillamoloney and Beishaman won the perennial contenders and three time in a row champions moved on into the semi-finals winning the block.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So Beishaman ended up on,

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[SPEAKER_01]: tiebreakers and points finishing first in the block and then sushi and kid slipped in with the other ten points and tiebreakers necessary and there he had it for the A block.

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[SPEAKER_00]: In hindsight, I feel like shingo and drove showed of advanced.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I kind of wish that they had, but I get if they are positioned if the

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[SPEAKER_00]: second or third in their factions and that other people take precedents on that, I get that, but you know, with Yoda being in the plan where he is and the way that this is all played out, kind of wish they dug something a little bit different, but that's your thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, I do understand.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think part of it may have simply banned that Yoda's Suji is in the world title match at Russell Kingdom and they want him to look strong and that would mean kid doing all the jobs and maybe Suji

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[SPEAKER_01]: at least getting to the post block play just to show how much on a roll he is, perhaps maybe they just didn't want to eliminate him when he is going to be the main guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I had Russell came them outside of that Tana Hashio Kata match, so I think part of it might have been just keeping Yoda as strong as possible, so to speak.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, I think that the perich.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that was the A block.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then we went over to the B block.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now on the second to last night of B block, actually, they were in A, M, A, which is Uya Uemura's hometown.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So he and Shota were in the main event and they won it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So a hometown guy won again.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They did the same thing in Shingo's hometown where he went over in the main event.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And this time they defeated Sonata and Narita, he hit the deadbolt on Sonata to win.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And in a match where they did the best they could, I am more convinced than ever that Narita just matches his partner's energy, which means Sonata is exactly the wrong guy to put Ren Narita in with because he's just going to get slow and lazy like Sonata is with that stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And just Narita, he doesn't pick it up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And like it's so if Sonata is

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[SPEAKER_01]: ponderous and slow and dull.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Narita just sort of matches that instead of saying, okay, I need to turn up the intensity because it's not a can't anymore.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, the good news is they hit the dead bowl once and out at one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Narita and Sonata were never really a factor in this, but this gets umino and oi more in the mix.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Then Sabre and Ouiwood defeated Heromo and Finlay and that kept TMDK in the mix.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Once again, Heromo and Finlay

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[SPEAKER_01]: One of the more entertaining teams in this tournament, I had a good time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They clearly were having a blast working together using each other as offensive weapons.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're banter in the post-mash comments.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We mentioned it last week a little bit, but Finlay is a legitimately funny person.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's a funny guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And

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[SPEAKER_01]: as he worked to create this heel character, he had to avoid that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He wasn't supposed to be funny.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He was supposed to be a dark mean guy, and this whole thing has allowed him to bring out a sense of humor again, and I enjoyed it while it was there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And

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[SPEAKER_01]: they weren't a factor in the tournament probably shouldn't have been just because that's not the story that they're telling Sabern O'Weewa, former World Champion, that team is the one that stays in the mix and that was the correct answer there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So at this point, going into an interesting match with the knockout brothers, we have Sabern O'Weewa who we more and Umino ready to go in the mix going into the final night of B-block action.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Any thoughts on these two before we move on to

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[SPEAKER_01]: about Saber and OE was.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I'll get the head scratching in a moment.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to make sure I got lost to who I was told to look to be talking about right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, what did you think of OE more and Oomena, what did you think of Saber and OE was as they went into the last night?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought both teams were

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[SPEAKER_00]: in the picture for MVP of the entire tournament.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought both teams showed up and showed out multiple nights and a gargable which team had matches of the night with a poking partner.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because you and Shota had a couple of fantastic.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The match they had with each other was probably the match of the entire tournament.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The you

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[SPEAKER_00]: I haven't been the whole thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's really interesting, did you see the Tokyo Sports article about what the ZAT Saber Jr. after all said and done?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I haven't had a chance to look over that yet, I want you to tell us about it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so this plays into wrestling kingdom plans because if ZAT Saber Jr and Rio Heo Ewa win this tournament, they are going to take their shot at the tag team titles.

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[SPEAKER_00]: had the main event of the January 5th show, rather than challenge a wrestle kingdom.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, it did.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The way you would take the wrestling kingdom, would you take the tag titles off the board, potentially putting more people into the gauntlet and the rambo instead.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So this is potentially if they win it, which, you know, spoiler alert, there's a possibility here that they could.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, what do you think about that idea of Scott Saber Jr. being the the maverick of when and where he wants to do with title shots?

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[SPEAKER_00]: But you just he felt like the Tana Hashie show was going to take over everything and if OUO wins, he wants it to be OUO's night and not in the shadow of Tana Hashie.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, that's an interesting thought, and I would be curious to see how they would approach that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's interesting to look at the rest of the Kingdom card because we're not doing our preview right now, but we have Tana Hashie versus Okada, of course.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We have the World Title match to catch the versus Suji, remember that's a double title match, but Global Title Online, Aaron Wolfe and evil as a special attraction, Sherry versus Saia Kamatani, double title match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The number one contenders match for the junior heavyweight championship is baffling, but it'll be a good match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Desperado, Fujita, Ishimori, show, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So there's more to add here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There is, and we're going to have the gauntlet, like the the never open weights six man gauntlet, but normally, normally, and this might not be a normal year granted, but there are 10 or 12 matches on the rest of Keaton cards.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So there's a lot more to come.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, and it seems odd to me, Jeremy,

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[SPEAKER_01]: not having one of your hotter acts of the second half of the year, the knockout brothers in a featured match on that show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know they can be in the gauntlet teaming with somebody.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I get that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like it's a smarter move to have KOB in a featured match in front of that big crowds.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is such a hot act and they are people that they could try to get more fans behind.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And this is a good opportunity.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Gonna be on national television.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is a good time to feature these dudes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I would advocate for doing that instead of a show that only people on world are gonna see the next night from World of War.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You got national television, you're trying to make new stars, knockout brothers are right there in front of you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is it possible that they do a match with the knockout brothers and a number of the teams that they faced in this tournament?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then Saber and OUA faced the winners the next night.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, but yeah, I mean, you can do that, but I would definitely my point is I think I think I think I think I think first solution you presented a problem looking for a solution I think that's a pretty good one my point is I think ice and Oscar should have their hands raised at Russell kingdom.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, however they.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then they can lose the next night or win the next night.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It does not.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I think they should sustain a, you know, pretty dominant run going forward.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And if you want to turn them in, it doesn't necessarily mean that, you know, you're going to win the title afterwards.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We've seen evidence of that many times in the past in, uh, Newt fans.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So,

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I think there's definitely meat on that bone if they decided to go that route and then call that shop differently.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yes, there was a Tokyo sport cardacle that I read when translated through various mean via my phone and computer expressed that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's San Bernardino.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We will last year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They had just started partnering and they did well, but they didn't quite reach to top of the mountain and with the year, year under their belts.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're one of the best tag team of the world.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that is a story I can agree if then told.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, throughout this tournament.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is the one that's a head scratching to me though.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They love it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And in one way, there's another way

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[SPEAKER_01]: And over the next few years, no, the Zayn and Archer defeated the knockout brother.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that is likely to be a match that sets up something for new beginning in America.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it just feels like because since then, Archer has mentioned in his post match comments, he wants a title shot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We beat the champions.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We visit, we're not going to win World Tag League.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I understand we're not going to win World Tag League.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think we deserve a shot at the World Champions and new beginning in the United States will be a good place to have that match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Zane and Archer against the knockout brothers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So on the other hand though, I think the knockout brothers lost too much in this tournament.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just don't think they should have lost three matches.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think they should have been tied with other people in winning on tie breakers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think they should have won the block outright.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Again, I just, you've got to hot act, keep them hot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I felt like that was just one too many losses.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But that is picking nets.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They are in the semi-finals and everything's fine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just, that's a little bit of a nitpick for me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: As I thought, there's one too many losses.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're Brad agrees.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It all ran.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Brad was hot about them moving so much in the beginning.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he thinks that they shouldn't have lost a house of torture.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Fair enough.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, of the two, that might be actually the more of Regis one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just talking about the timing of this one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just thought, uh, that's pretty rough.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But if the goal is to set them up for the new beginning in America, mash against, uh, against Arthur and Zane, they're,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I guess if you don't these guys and title matches, I'm fine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they should, by the way, there's no reason to take the tag team titles off of those guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel very strongly about that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're going to have them be like pinning.

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[SPEAKER_00]: you and Shota again over and over, the chances of them with, you know, running it back with Gabe kidding you to Fuji more than one, like you only got a couple of times to have you guys win and go over to you guys and can't do it over and over and over again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They've already got it twice with Shota and you, you squeeze the blood from the stone, you got to make new challengers for them to be and you're going to have to do it through here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, it's fair enough.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then, like Brad Brad said, this tournament seems to have kick showed it in the ass.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's looked really, really good teaming with you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, he got a storyline.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you know, like we happen, we can have a storyline.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so we all remember at the beginning of the tournament when they faced Tonahashi, you know, showed a just kind of surprise that everyone was like, and made him pack and pee,

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's kind of in the air and I was wondering where it was going to go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So again, in the December 10th, the backstage comments, you know, showed it, just kind of looked at you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He was like, you got something to say.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you, you're kind of promo, you know what?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you went out there and he said, I want to leave Hauntai.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm the son of New Japan and no one's going to stop me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And a smile that was like, god damn, but I believe you, buddy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, just go to God of chance to talk.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He talked about you at the press and he talked about all these things and he talked about how the fans just kind of were his friends and the people that got him through it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And one of these people felt like Tana Hashie and one of them felt like night out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's a good analogy, really.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he might be following nighto's career path very indirectly, I just might have thought on that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Numenonocon, by the way, defeated Tonahashi and ELP, Tonahashi and ELP never really effector in the tournament.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And mostly there are still a tonahashi can quite literally get his flowers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's been presented with, that's a phrase I hate, except it's literal.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're back to the end.

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[SPEAKER_01]: presenting him with a big bouquet is everywhere and obviously warm farewells to Tana Hashi at each stop on the tour.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So not winning a lot of matches, but nevertheless, you know, ELP is carrying the load for most of Numen and O'Con in the mix going into the final night.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So as we went into the last night of B-block action, three of the four matches mattered.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And there was one at the very beginning there that was not a factor in the standings and that one was, yeah, that was the match with I got in front of me right here,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Things went the right way and it's not an and run one they would have gone forward because they would have ended up with eight points and knocked out so.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Don't actually play the hero stopping the house of torture just one last time from from moving forward, but there were there were a number of matches in there that was like if this team can't lose whoever wins state alive another one of them can't lose for one team and then the last one was like a winning your end.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then after that, we had, oh, we were in Saber again, Zayn and Archer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, Alex saying, Nick is killing him at this point.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's, he's taking a beating on his neck.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They did a very quick match here to get Zayn and Archer out of there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, and Alex Zayn did very little in this match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was, it was short and it was mostly Archer where I believe it was, yes, it was Zach that rolled up Lance Archer, not quite in a victory role, but he was just

56:49.793 --> 56:55.905
[SPEAKER_00]: And he Trent fell and got him on his back and got, uh, basically got the angle for a pin.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that saved Zane from having to do a whole lot on a bad neck.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was very confused about that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do the bad stage comment.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that that was what it was.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think they were trying to protect Alex.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then that was the that was the end of the monster sauce.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So monster sauce comes out of this tournament.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Having face ton of hashi and you know what that meant to Archer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He said it in his backstage comments.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They have a possible world title shot on the horizon.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think monster sauce.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This was good for monster sauce.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think they, they, they were good in the tournament.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I like them as a tag team.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I would like to see more of them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think we're going to.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then it kept Saber and OE will of course that pretty much got them into the semi finals.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Then we had Heromo and Finlay against Newman and O'Con.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And this is one that was interesting because Heromo.

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[SPEAKER_01]: who had not been getting a lot of pins.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's been the one taking him and had been finley actually scoring the victories.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hero Mood defeated Newman with a finisher to pin them and eliminate United Empire.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Newman and O'Con were very angry about this and the American.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're actually attacking Hiromu on semi-finals night to start a bit of a mini-few that's going to go on on some of these shows leading up to the dome.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Newman of course going full heel here and we'll see what O'Con does as far as the long-term plans and Henare and all the rest.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Jacob Austin Young seems to be on board with Newman 100%.

58:28.580 --> 58:39.791
[SPEAKER_01]: O'Conne, but heroin, finally, get the wind on the final night, the fan seemed to like that an awful lot, heroin will get in the victory, and then that took out the United Empire team.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But overall, Newman and O'Conne's story was setting things up for things to come.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's really what's coming.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Everyone knows there's going to be some kind of explosion regarding United Empire.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not the time to do it yet.

58:53.485 --> 58:56.848
[SPEAKER_01]: We've got other stories to tell, but this is simmering under the surface.

58:57.503 --> 59:04.739
[SPEAKER_01]: I was laughing because I was like, oh, look, another group of three people is sent by the way, simmering does not happen under the surface.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a terrible metaphor and I boshed it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a simmering beneath the surface.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It wouldn't be simmering.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not simmering yet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Go ahead, Jeremy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just being pedantic.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Are you good?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Are we good?

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, no.

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[SPEAKER_00]: really not.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Go ahead.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The three, the power of three, Cal Numan, Jacob Austin Young, Great O'Con, the Bishamanin, who that's getting mentioned before, who are we going to get Drilla, Fimley, and Haromo.

59:36.991 --> 59:44.520
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, like they seem to be setting up because I looked to see

59:45.530 --> 59:51.737
[SPEAKER_00]: with Grilla and it will send me and I was like, I can see Haromu send me and Droding a team, a rest of the kingdom.

59:51.897 --> 01:00:02.088
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm watching and I'm looking and I'm like, oh, there's plenty of power of three he's going on right here because we got to get the last of these guys on the card.

01:00:02.148 --> 01:00:08.615
[SPEAKER_00]: And once that rental world tag league is done, I expect one or two more matches to be made.

01:00:08.695 --> 01:00:12.820
[SPEAKER_00]: And we call it a day and we have a full card for our

01:00:13.255 --> 01:00:14.518
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

01:00:14.538 --> 01:00:14.919
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

01:00:14.959 --> 01:00:20.130
[SPEAKER_01]: So as we move on from there, uh, we had, uh, K.O.B.

01:00:20.150 --> 01:00:26.944
[SPEAKER_01]: The knockout brothers against we more and um, you know, and this was the classic winning your end loser out playoff match.

01:00:27.245 --> 01:00:33.772
[SPEAKER_01]: And so knockout brothers terrific mash once again, you mentioned that only more a new amino might be the MVP's of the tournament.

01:00:33.792 --> 01:00:35.094
[SPEAKER_01]: There are a couple of contenders for that.

01:00:35.154 --> 01:00:36.736
[SPEAKER_01]: Say we're no we were excellent as well.

01:00:37.256 --> 01:00:38.177
[SPEAKER_01]: Beishman damn good.

01:00:38.558 --> 01:00:42.402
[SPEAKER_01]: But we more an umino wrestled like they meant it in this tournament.

01:00:42.442 --> 01:00:43.864
[SPEAKER_01]: This is a pretty terrific mash here.

01:00:45.065 --> 01:00:50.351
[SPEAKER_01]: They hit the knockout bomb on shoulder umino to get the victory terrific one.

01:00:50.992 --> 01:00:54.175
[SPEAKER_01]: And that left the knockout brothers at number one in the block.

01:00:54.396 --> 01:00:55.357
[SPEAKER_01]: So they won their block.

01:00:55.457 --> 01:00:56.458
[SPEAKER_01]: Again, I'm

01:00:56.877 --> 01:00:57.358
[SPEAKER_01]: Picking me.

01:00:57.378 --> 01:01:15.730
[SPEAKER_00]: You wanted to see them with the 10 next to their name, not a name, but you know what, hey, again, picking this very there's there's this aspect that, okay, we're relatively educated wrestling fans and we do a podcast and we do all these things.

01:01:16.469 --> 01:01:23.957
[SPEAKER_00]: There is an optic here where you have two teams that have 10 in one block and two teams that have eight in the other block.

01:01:23.977 --> 01:01:28.622
[SPEAKER_00]: And regardless of the fact that the knockout brothers are the current IWGP tag team champion.

01:01:29.603 --> 01:01:37.051
[SPEAKER_00]: When you look at them with an eight next to their name, they even though they won the block, they look like the underdog compared to the other powerhouse team.

01:01:37.551 --> 01:01:44.839
[SPEAKER_00]: And so if they win, they get elevated off of that and they're no longer looked at as such an underdog.

01:01:45.055 --> 01:02:14.151
[SPEAKER_00]: While I get the inherent mindset of wanting to see the 10 and wanting to get the five throughout the, I think it's better for them to have the eight to appear as an underdog and then come out with the win so that they actually change some mindsets instead of an assumption of their lesser, oh no, they're actually better, you know, when given the opportunity in the squeak past, they actually ended up being the winner.

01:02:14.317 --> 01:02:19.311
[SPEAKER_00]: If they don't win the whole thing, they're not what good it is.

01:02:19.733 --> 01:02:20.277
[SPEAKER_01]: Bye.

01:02:21.927 --> 01:02:29.055
[SPEAKER_01]: And again, and what we're going to be here will be on this show again talking about how they just won't go with the new town.

01:02:29.095 --> 01:02:32.700
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, just keep me camping them, give them a big win, please.

01:02:33.481 --> 01:02:36.985
[SPEAKER_00]: Do you need to build the detacked team division around these guys?

01:02:37.125 --> 01:02:43.372
[SPEAKER_00]: And they need to be the mountain that other people have to climb, not that they are climbing that mountain first.

01:02:43.953 --> 01:02:44.834
[SPEAKER_00]: They won the titles.

01:02:45.655 --> 01:02:46.956
[SPEAKER_00]: They should have been the mountain.

01:02:46.976 --> 01:02:47.597
[SPEAKER_00]: They should have.

01:02:48.134 --> 01:02:57.033
[SPEAKER_00]: appeared to have climbed that mountain already, you know, they faced dominant teams to defend those times, coming into wrestling kingdom, we did not need a story with them.

01:02:57.574 --> 01:03:00.781
[SPEAKER_00]: We're in like, are they good enough to stand against all these teams?

01:03:00.801 --> 01:03:08.438
[SPEAKER_00]: They should have been, they should have had a really like strong run with a couple of flu clauses, not the way that it was done.

01:03:09.363 --> 01:03:15.457
[SPEAKER_00]: because you're really trying to build these guys and the politics of protecting some people over than others.

01:03:15.557 --> 01:03:21.010
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, come January 5th, if you're going to be a whole new packing order anyway, so who the fuck cares?

01:03:22.120 --> 01:03:25.824
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, so then we moved on to the semi-finals night in Nagasaki.

01:03:25.944 --> 01:03:31.830
[SPEAKER_01]: So what I mentioned, one other thing, aside from Osaka, which was kind of a disappointing crowd of just about a thousand.

01:03:32.370 --> 01:03:34.592
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think start to actually beat them in the last time.

01:03:34.633 --> 01:03:37.836
[SPEAKER_01]: They were in that Jim, Jim holds about 1200.

01:03:37.896 --> 01:03:43.221
[SPEAKER_01]: And for some reason, they didn't fill up that was strange considering the circle.

01:03:43.241 --> 01:03:45.904
[SPEAKER_01]: It was Tana Hashis last match in Osaka and it didn't fill up.

01:03:45.924 --> 01:03:52.110
[SPEAKER_01]: Weird, the other nights, they had strong crowds, like 1200-1300

01:03:52.090 --> 01:03:57.905
[SPEAKER_01]: city, certainly not anything remotely as large as Tokyo and Yokohama or Osaka.

01:03:57.925 --> 01:04:03.779
[SPEAKER_01]: And so they did pretty well in MMA, they did well in Nagasaki, they did well in the other spots.

01:04:04.581 --> 01:04:09.694
[SPEAKER_01]: So go figure, Osaka just wear a diet, just they didn't they didn't turn up for it.

01:04:09.860 --> 01:04:25.438
[SPEAKER_01]: But that was the outlier the rest of the week fairly strong crowds and they went to Nagasaki and that was on the 10th, as you mentioned, and there was a bunch of preview stuff underneath, I mentioned the Heromo Takahashi attack from United Empire.

01:04:26.347 --> 01:04:31.943
[SPEAKER_01]: And that was the main point until we got to the semi-finals of the tag team tournament.

01:04:32.344 --> 01:04:35.293
[SPEAKER_01]: And at that one, we had the main event.

01:04:35.313 --> 01:04:40.187
[SPEAKER_01]: Go to a new shihashi, be shaman against Zach Saber Jr. and Rio Heo we were.

01:04:40.876 --> 01:04:42.539
[SPEAKER_01]: uh, what could go wrong?

01:04:42.579 --> 01:04:43.901
[SPEAKER_01]: This match was fantastic.

01:04:44.402 --> 01:05:06.478
[SPEAKER_01]: And a lot of callbacks between Zack and Goto to their singles matches, including Zack tying up Goto's arms and threatening to break it like he allegedly did when he when Goto was lost the world title was written out of the script for a while so that he could go and work on another script, which was the street fighter movie when he was Honda.

01:05:07.606 --> 01:05:13.216
[SPEAKER_01]: There was a lot of, there were a lot of co-backs to those matches with Godo and Zach battling back and forth.

01:05:14.278 --> 01:05:15.560
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, he was an excellent wrestler.

01:05:16.101 --> 01:05:19.067
[SPEAKER_01]: I look forward to when it is his time at last here.

01:05:19.247 --> 01:05:22.493
[SPEAKER_01]: And he gets some higher profile matches and pushes.

01:05:23.254 --> 01:05:24.537
[SPEAKER_01]: He's talented enough to do it.

01:05:25.899 --> 01:05:29.766
[SPEAKER_01]: And you just saw be shaman with that predator natural.

01:05:30.809 --> 01:05:31.571
[SPEAKER_01]: team work.

01:05:32.353 --> 01:05:33.215
[SPEAKER_01]: I love this match.

01:05:33.275 --> 01:05:33.957
[SPEAKER_01]: Really enjoyed it.

01:05:34.137 --> 01:05:35.621
[SPEAKER_01]: One of my favorites of the tournament.

01:05:36.102 --> 01:05:41.536
[SPEAKER_01]: But in the end, Zackano, we would have got the victory on on on Bishamon.

01:05:41.937 --> 01:05:44.343
[SPEAKER_01]: Bishamon the perennial contenders and champions again.

01:05:44.383 --> 01:05:48.413
[SPEAKER_01]: They're the guys that have to make everybody Zack doesn't need making so much.

01:05:48.393 --> 01:05:55.708
[SPEAKER_01]: but it was a situation where they put over the former World Champion and Beishman steps to the side for now.

01:05:56.409 --> 01:06:02.081
[SPEAKER_01]: I'd imagine we'll see them in the gauntlet and Zach and O'Weewa onto the World Tag League finals.

01:06:04.285 --> 01:06:08.494
[SPEAKER_01]: Just like we all thought, right?

01:06:08.930 --> 01:06:10.713
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it wasn't out of the possibility.

01:06:10.733 --> 01:06:12.777
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we thought that this team was going to do well in the turn.

01:06:12.977 --> 01:06:28.947
[SPEAKER_01]: I wondered if they weren't going to my question on this one was, would they take OE was seriously, and there's no question about Zack or was this a situation where Zack is the world champion level guy who's teaming with the guy that gets beat?

01:06:29.416 --> 01:06:30.798
[SPEAKER_01]: because, you know, that was a thing.

01:06:31.178 --> 01:06:35.343
[SPEAKER_01]: And, but as it turns out, they did beat OEWO when this team lost.

01:06:35.383 --> 01:06:40.890
[SPEAKER_01]: It was OEWO that would take the pin, but they did hang in long enough to get into the semi-finals.

01:06:40.910 --> 01:06:42.512
[SPEAKER_01]: They didn't beat OEWO too many times.

01:06:42.552 --> 01:06:43.574
[SPEAKER_01]: That was my question about it.

01:06:43.594 --> 01:06:46.117
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, how seriously did they take OEWO in this situation?

01:06:46.397 --> 01:06:50.142
[SPEAKER_01]: I was happy to see that they thought he was worthy of making the finals.

01:06:50.476 --> 01:06:54.721
[SPEAKER_00]: I grew with that and also one of the flyers I want to give this team a particular word.

01:06:55.502 --> 01:07:03.833
[SPEAKER_00]: Their ability to synergize, their move together, you know, that German Suplex win to the Jackknife and kind of stuff.

01:07:05.395 --> 01:07:17.310
[SPEAKER_00]: They were very, very excellent with each other and you kind of take it for granted, if they're in TMDK and you know, Zach is more of a single star, but they're a really good tactic.

01:07:18.944 --> 01:07:27.977
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they definitely are so we have our final set and let's but let's take a look at what we have coming up on Friday the 12th in Kagoshima.

01:07:28.017 --> 01:07:34.667
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the night we are going to get our other semi final, which is Gabe kid in Yoda sushi versus the knockout brothers.

01:07:35.368 --> 01:07:41.777
[SPEAKER_01]: Jeremy again, if they if they kneecap the KOB here, I'm going to be extremely frustrated.

01:07:42.338 --> 01:07:43.840
[SPEAKER_01]: It just probably the only one.

01:07:44.501 --> 01:07:46.504
[SPEAKER_00]: There'll be some social media outcry.

01:07:47.817 --> 01:07:49.539
[SPEAKER_01]: It's such a kid don't need to win this match.

01:07:49.800 --> 01:07:51.782
[SPEAKER_01]: No, do they, they can beat kid here.

01:07:52.964 --> 01:07:54.546
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they can beat each other.

01:07:56.950 --> 01:07:57.671
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

01:07:57.691 --> 01:08:02.417
[SPEAKER_00]: I think I think this is a classic story of a team that's on the same page, or it's in the team that cannot.

01:08:02.437 --> 01:08:03.438
[SPEAKER_00]: And that can be the difference.

01:08:04.179 --> 01:08:05.101
[SPEAKER_00]: That should be the story.

01:08:07.003 --> 01:08:07.164
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:08:07.184 --> 01:08:16.997
[SPEAKER_00]: The knockout brother has been aligned very well with each other.

01:08:17.787 --> 01:08:20.252
[SPEAKER_00]: You can't say the same about Gabe getting you to Suji.

01:08:20.573 --> 01:08:25.101
[SPEAKER_00]: In fact, they've highlighted how disaligned they are with each other.

01:08:25.923 --> 01:08:35.983
[SPEAKER_00]: And if they have that team, like they've been able to get on the same page, go over the young team that is flowing synergistically.

01:08:36.003 --> 01:08:38.007
[SPEAKER_00]: I got a lot of questions, man.

01:08:39.202 --> 01:08:45.314
[SPEAKER_01]: This is the one time when I would say that the champion winning the tournament ain't a bad idea.

01:08:45.935 --> 01:08:48.861
[SPEAKER_01]: Don't get, but that's how high I am on the knockout brothers.

01:08:48.881 --> 01:08:50.364
[SPEAKER_01]: I just think you need to go with these guys.

01:08:50.865 --> 01:08:52.147
[SPEAKER_01]: How often do you get a hot act?

01:08:52.428 --> 01:08:56.195
[SPEAKER_01]: Not very often, as we've seen the last couple of years in New Japan, the last several years in New Japan.

01:08:56.475 --> 01:08:58.459
[SPEAKER_01]: You don't get a hot act very often.

01:08:58.900 --> 01:09:00.463
[SPEAKER_01]: Do not cut it off.

01:09:01.184 --> 01:09:01.986
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'll ask.

01:09:01.966 --> 01:09:12.504
[SPEAKER_01]: Although if they win this thing and go in against Zach and OEWA at the in the finals and that's that match would take place I just want to make sure I get the town right that's going to be.

01:09:13.345 --> 01:09:16.310
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, let's see here scheduled.

01:09:16.330 --> 01:09:17.612
[SPEAKER_00]: I think we'll take a shave off.

01:09:18.115 --> 01:09:40.765
[SPEAKER_01]: uh... uh... uh... cumumoto Sunday the 14th and cumumoto and grandmas a cumumoto uh... cagashima is at the uh... son arena in the sendai son arena so uh... cumumoto uh... that one is uh... the finals on Sunday uh... real way in Zach against the winner of uh... that match tomorrow so that annoyed me because i took straight from the b-block finish that said

01:09:40.745 --> 01:09:50.999
[SPEAKER_00]: But Shimano will tie it now, take on Kat Saber Jr and Rayo, he went game Nagasaki while Gabe Kidding, Yoda, Fujifilm, knockout brother, Friday and Kagoshima semi-final.

01:09:51.019 --> 01:09:54.544
[SPEAKER_00]: The winner will meet in the World Tag League final Sunday in Kagoshima.

01:09:54.865 --> 01:09:55.886
[SPEAKER_00]: That is all the way.

01:09:56.607 --> 01:09:57.108
[SPEAKER_00]: I believe you.

01:09:57.669 --> 01:09:58.129
[SPEAKER_00]: I believe you.

01:09:58.149 --> 01:10:00.012
[SPEAKER_01]: I believe you.

01:10:00.032 --> 01:10:00.913
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's a cumumano.

01:10:01.674 --> 01:10:02.776
[SPEAKER_01]: The finals are in cumumano.

01:10:03.617 --> 01:10:03.958
[SPEAKER_01]: Cool.

01:10:04.739 --> 01:10:06.381
[SPEAKER_01]: The are a little bit incorrect.

01:10:08.538 --> 01:10:17.210
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, so with that in mind, I mean, we're down to three teams here, and what is your final prediction on who's going to win world tagly Jeremy.

01:10:18.692 --> 01:10:19.413
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to all of that.

01:10:19.433 --> 01:10:20.334
[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, we're junior in Rio.

01:10:20.354 --> 01:10:20.935
[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, we will.

01:10:22.537 --> 01:10:38.258
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, that's why I think they win, I think they're they for way at Russell kingdom with the knockout brother of winning was that Saber Jr and we were saying, no, no, no, you guys, I'll figure that out.

01:10:38.845 --> 01:10:48.290
[SPEAKER_00]: That makes the most sense to me, but I mean, this has been a really good tournament and there's a very real opportunity.

01:10:48.330 --> 01:10:50.476
[SPEAKER_00]: They punch themselves in the balls.

01:10:50.496 --> 01:10:51.318
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm on the finish.

01:10:53.083 --> 01:10:53.584
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

01:10:53.604 --> 01:10:54.627
[SPEAKER_01]: And then, uh,

01:10:55.602 --> 01:10:59.328
[SPEAKER_01]: Jeremy says I felt like tagly struggled for a while better this year.

01:11:00.270 --> 01:11:01.632
[SPEAKER_01]: Brad enjoyed the tournament though.

01:11:01.672 --> 01:11:04.637
[SPEAKER_01]: Brad said he loved the certain and might have been the best tournament of the year.

01:11:04.717 --> 01:11:07.621
[SPEAKER_01]: He feels due to the stories that told up and down the card.

01:11:07.681 --> 01:11:12.970
[SPEAKER_00]: We did have totally breathy watching to me with at least one good match a night.

01:11:13.355 --> 01:11:29.869
[SPEAKER_01]: And you had the Tana Hashie situation where he's saying his farewells, the drama of Kid and Suji, the drama of Hiromu, and Finlay, which is an impartial comedy, you had how the war dragons were going to work together, turns out pretty great.

01:11:30.730 --> 01:11:42.400
[SPEAKER_01]: Then just teams that are excellent, the first place having good matches and of course, there was always that threat of a breakdown

01:11:42.380 --> 01:11:54.499
[SPEAKER_01]: If it's going to happen at all, don't know, feels like there's some sort of battle for hauntai coming, but it didn't happen here, but it was a nice little undercurrent wasn't it?

01:11:54.939 --> 01:12:00.748
[SPEAKER_01]: Each match you were kind of looking is is one of them going to misalary it and hit the other so that there was always that tension there.

01:12:00.768 --> 01:12:05.455
[SPEAKER_01]: So there were a lot of things to think about as you watch these shows, which I appreciate.

01:12:05.515 --> 01:12:10.463
[SPEAKER_01]: And frankly, even though the action was excellent,

01:12:11.084 --> 01:12:17.314
[SPEAKER_00]: No, you know, I think it's your tag link to your tag links with empty calories on an empty So it was good matches.

01:12:17.514 --> 01:12:18.175
[SPEAKER_00]: They were good matches.

01:12:18.215 --> 01:12:26.247
[SPEAKER_00]: They were fine, but like when there's nothing to connect to other than matches, that's what you have.

01:12:26.267 --> 01:12:29.312
[SPEAKER_00]: You have another promotion and that's not

01:12:29.545 --> 01:12:37.533
[SPEAKER_00]: what there you should be conveying through the commentary which half of it was, you know, just Japanese commentary through the thing.

01:12:37.573 --> 01:12:39.795
[SPEAKER_00]: So I tell you everything that you need to know there.

01:12:39.855 --> 01:12:42.318
[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, this was a better tournament.

01:12:42.418 --> 01:12:46.242
[SPEAKER_00]: I kind of, you know, don't cast the game here for this.

01:12:46.302 --> 01:12:47.823
[SPEAKER_00]: I kind of like the C2 right now.

01:12:48.964 --> 01:12:56.852
[SPEAKER_00]: I think they're having some good matches with some excellent

01:12:57.575 --> 01:13:01.700
[SPEAKER_00]: be the finale of that one and then they both had over a new trend.

01:13:01.720 --> 01:13:05.244
[SPEAKER_00]: So I like it.

01:13:05.564 --> 01:13:06.906
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's a really good tournament.

01:13:07.286 --> 01:13:24.747
[SPEAKER_00]: I haven't even watched the show from last night all the way through and I heard there were some amazing matches on there with our boy Kyle Fletcher from the former

01:13:25.385 --> 01:13:27.768
[SPEAKER_00]: But I heard that that one was actually a tremendous match last day.

01:13:27.829 --> 01:13:32.355
[SPEAKER_00]: And then to catch enough, and Malksley had an excellent one this past weekend.

01:13:32.395 --> 01:13:36.281
[SPEAKER_00]: So I do like that tournament.

01:13:37.282 --> 01:13:38.484
[SPEAKER_00]: I did like the G1.

01:13:38.504 --> 01:13:49.941
[SPEAKER_00]: I kind of liked the Nagepan Cup, the junior, the junior tag league was probably the only one I didn't like.

01:13:50.613 --> 01:13:57.544
[SPEAKER_00]: But the other ones, like, I can't tell you to go to my favorite, but I inherently had no problem with any of them.

01:13:58.966 --> 01:14:09.243
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm also looking at the rest of the Kingdom card and thinking about the Super Junior singles tournament, and I just have a hard time believing that Doki's not going to be a part of Kingdom at all.

01:14:10.245 --> 01:14:12.228
[SPEAKER_01]: So I still feel like something's coming there.

01:14:12.568 --> 01:14:13.390
[SPEAKER_01]: We've got a few shows.

01:14:13.410 --> 01:14:14.471
[SPEAKER_01]: We got Christmas Coricans.

01:14:14.932 --> 01:14:16.895
[SPEAKER_01]: They're probably not done announcing matches.

01:14:16.996 --> 01:14:17.937
[SPEAKER_01]: They're just great.

01:14:18.457 --> 01:14:22.301
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we have proof because like God, I have I have ruled the junior division.

01:14:22.382 --> 01:14:24.023
[SPEAKER_01]: There is yeah, I don't need to even be here.

01:14:24.063 --> 01:14:30.070
[SPEAKER_01]: I have conquered the realm has kind of had been his attitude to the point that he said, I'm not even going to appear on the rest of Kingdom card.

01:14:30.371 --> 01:14:33.254
[SPEAKER_01]: You can all kiss it and we're not dead on any cards.

01:14:33.274 --> 01:14:36.618
[SPEAKER_00]: What I'd say, like he's not, no, he hasn't even turned it on.

01:14:36.678 --> 01:14:39.922
[SPEAKER_00]: Send them like you literally just like asked off and took off.

01:14:40.482 --> 01:14:41.123
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

01:14:41.474 --> 01:14:42.375
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't buy it.

01:14:42.395 --> 01:14:49.507
[SPEAKER_01]: I think I just don't think either going to have that card without him, especially after what happened last year, like him not being a part of Kingdom seems very weird.

01:14:49.847 --> 01:14:57.980
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just like, you just make me laugh so much like he literally just said, I'm the greatest and I'm leaving and he laughed.

01:14:58.000 --> 01:15:00.764
[SPEAKER_01]: To catch the versus Claudio is coming.

01:15:01.686 --> 01:15:04.410
[SPEAKER_01]: Brad mentions that to catch the versus Claudio is coming on Saturday.

01:15:04.430 --> 01:15:05.191
[SPEAKER_01]: It'll be probably wrong.

01:15:05.211 --> 01:15:05.912
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that's right.

01:15:05.932 --> 01:15:07.735
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what good

01:15:08.137 --> 01:15:10.362
[SPEAKER_00]: I WGP champion versus CMLL champion.

01:15:10.803 --> 01:15:12.126
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my gosh.

01:15:12.146 --> 01:15:13.690
[SPEAKER_00]: People are not making a big deal on that.

01:15:14.211 --> 01:15:14.652
[SPEAKER_00]: You know why?

01:15:14.693 --> 01:15:19.564
[SPEAKER_00]: Because no one out tried to see MLL I'll kind of let's do cares about this.

01:15:20.017 --> 01:15:23.923
[SPEAKER_01]: because CMLL has approximately 75 title belts.

01:15:23.943 --> 01:15:30.433
[SPEAKER_01]: And like it go on to one of those sites like Cage Match or wrestling data and look at who the CMLL champions are.

01:15:30.453 --> 01:15:33.457
[SPEAKER_01]: There is a long list of CMLL belts.

01:15:33.938 --> 01:15:37.484
[SPEAKER_01]: Now Tony's trying to catch up with them, making this national title for no reason at all.

01:15:38.085 --> 01:15:39.767
[SPEAKER_01]: But you know, everybody's got a belt now.

01:15:39.807 --> 01:15:41.390
[SPEAKER_01]: You get a belt, and you get a belt, and you get a belt.

01:15:41.750 --> 01:15:43.212
[SPEAKER_01]: But Takesha has won the matters.

01:15:43.753 --> 01:15:46.277
[SPEAKER_01]: And Claudio has a belt.

01:15:47.000 --> 01:15:59.762
[SPEAKER_00]: The CMLL Welterweight Champion in Naskar, Gerada, actually just pinned the CMLL Heavyweight Champion in Claudio on AEW television.

01:15:59.782 --> 01:16:06.193
[SPEAKER_01]: As somebody who watches a lot of Lucha Librey to the point, again, my YouTube ads are in Spanish, okay?

01:16:06.634 --> 01:16:07.836
[SPEAKER_01]: I watch a lot of CMLL.

01:16:08.657 --> 01:16:10.240
[SPEAKER_01]: There is no company on Earth.

01:16:10.810 --> 01:16:18.281
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, where belts matter less, uh, the AEW is working very hard, but because it's a tourist attraction, right?

01:16:18.341 --> 01:16:21.886
[SPEAKER_01]: It's in people that don't necessarily watch Lucha that come in there.

01:16:21.906 --> 01:16:24.670
[SPEAKER_01]: At no one goes in there just saying, Oh, the champ is here.

01:16:24.991 --> 01:16:26.092
[SPEAKER_01]: It's Mystico.

01:16:26.293 --> 01:16:26.433
[SPEAKER_00]: It's.

01:16:26.653 --> 01:16:27.014
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, let me go.

01:16:27.054 --> 01:16:27.214
[SPEAKER_00]: There.

01:16:27.234 --> 01:16:27.875
[SPEAKER_00]: But you've drawn.

01:16:27.895 --> 01:16:32.582
[SPEAKER_01]: If the lightweight champions, the lightness guard, Dorada, wealthway, middle way, all that.

01:16:32.562 --> 01:16:38.311
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's mascara, Dorada, it's, you know, Neon, it's, uh, they're all guys.

01:16:38.351 --> 01:16:39.613
[SPEAKER_00]: They're all in the trio of felt.

01:16:39.633 --> 01:16:39.893
[SPEAKER_00]: Sure.

01:16:40.014 --> 01:16:40.294
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:16:40.314 --> 01:16:43.098
[SPEAKER_01]: Ultimate Guerrero, ultimate Guerrero, that's what Matt.

01:16:43.759 --> 01:16:51.111
[SPEAKER_01]: You don't, and of course, say when you get to the anniversary shows and the land is shows and idol legends, it's a mass versus hair match.

01:16:51.331 --> 01:16:54.336
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not, like, this is for the world heavyweight title.

01:16:54.356 --> 01:16:55.998
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just not a thing in Luchelibre.

01:16:56.038 --> 01:16:56.819
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just not.

01:16:56.839 --> 01:16:59.143
[SPEAKER_01]: So they have belts, but it's not, it's not the focus.

01:16:59.444 --> 01:17:16.930
[SPEAKER_00]: It's just funny because you can put the boat on these guys and Tony can do whatever he wants with the book anyway, it's because outside of Mexico, which if doesn't matter, you know, by and there are arena Mexico vibes and then there's no grass lures because there are arena Mexico and then they're not wrestling in a region.

01:17:17.500 --> 01:17:22.808
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and Brad's writing some mass matches mean much more than title match, subtle hair matches and all that.

01:17:22.848 --> 01:17:26.974
[SPEAKER_01]: The epistos, those are what those those the stipulation matches, epistos.

01:17:27.615 --> 01:17:29.718
[SPEAKER_01]: Those are those are much more important.

01:17:29.738 --> 01:17:32.582
[SPEAKER_01]: You're correct Brad, yeah, thanks for that comment.

01:17:32.602 --> 01:17:34.885
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's something that, you know,

01:17:36.097 --> 01:17:41.423
[SPEAKER_01]: When everybody has about, nobody has one really the matter, so it's kind of a tough situation anyway.

01:17:41.484 --> 01:17:45.248
[SPEAKER_01]: But if you want to laugh, go look at some of the names of those CMLL times.

01:17:45.368 --> 01:17:46.169
[SPEAKER_01]: I love CMLL.

01:17:46.390 --> 01:17:47.751
[SPEAKER_01]: They're title situations nuts.

01:17:48.312 --> 01:17:50.955
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just a historic champion.

01:17:50.975 --> 01:17:51.616
[SPEAKER_01]: What the hell is that?

01:17:51.736 --> 01:17:52.036
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

01:17:52.477 --> 01:17:54.720
[SPEAKER_01]: It's the same way class, but they're the historic champion.

01:17:54.760 --> 01:17:55.501
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't even know what it means.

01:17:56.061 --> 01:17:57.783
[SPEAKER_01]: By the way, I was looking through my old stuff here.

01:17:57.904 --> 01:18:02.669
[SPEAKER_01]: And over here behind me, I always put something from my collection out and I changed it every way.

01:18:02.709 --> 01:18:04.011
[SPEAKER_01]: But this is a

01:18:03.991 --> 01:18:27.602
[SPEAKER_01]: the top of the super juniors tournament number three from the 1990s and mega processes they're flying Scorpio coachy kind of motto Pegasus kid awkward Eddie Guerrero you know Eddie Guerrero and I thought that was in Eddie Guerrero not Black Tiger Eddie Guerrero right and then down here in the corner we have

01:18:28.375 --> 01:18:42.701
[SPEAKER_01]: D-E-E-V for Dave Finley, for fifth-fimple, it was Dave, but because of the way it's said, and the way translated into Japanese, it comes out D-E-E-E-V. D-E-V, I know that.

01:18:42.721 --> 01:18:45.726
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, tell you what, stuff over there, stuff over there sometimes.

01:18:46.094 --> 01:18:48.398
[SPEAKER_01]: that I had to put it up on there.

01:18:48.879 --> 01:18:52.985
[SPEAKER_01]: So Jeremy, you mentioned earlier something as we get closer to January 4th.

01:18:53.466 --> 01:18:56.331
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, about the rest of Kingdom attendance.

01:18:56.351 --> 01:19:03.563
[SPEAKER_01]: Now they had this recap, they had the big boom, the the day tickets went on sale.

01:19:03.543 --> 01:19:21.501
[SPEAKER_01]: huge box office almost third one was at over 25,000 and then within another week about 30,000 ticket sales very strong out of the gate they announced O'Countiverse Tana Hashian sold the joint out then they said we're going to we're going to create more seats they age to make more seats so

01:19:22.190 --> 01:19:29.058
[SPEAKER_01]: As we moved on, the, the actual number of people that will be in the dome has shifted because it went better than their wildest dreams.

01:19:29.118 --> 01:19:33.262
[SPEAKER_01]: We've got, we've got to find ways to pack more people in this place and there are opportunities for that.

01:19:33.342 --> 01:19:40.470
[SPEAKER_01]: Like you mentioned the outfield seats, there was a large portion of the outfield itself that did not have seats on it.

01:19:40.490 --> 01:19:45.436
[SPEAKER_01]: There were big open areas that are going to put down Rosa shares there and sell more tickets.

01:19:45.456 --> 01:19:51.302
[SPEAKER_01]: Jeremy, what have you learned about how many people may be joining you on the fourth?

01:19:51.637 --> 01:19:56.163
[SPEAKER_00]: So a couple of hours ago, I was on social media.

01:19:56.183 --> 01:19:57.605
[SPEAKER_00]: It's kind of getting notes together.

01:19:57.665 --> 01:20:04.834
[SPEAKER_00]: And one of the social media personalities that I kind of looked at for a new Japan information.

01:20:04.894 --> 01:20:09.660
[SPEAKER_00]: Peps wrestling, you know, the rest of the voices and a couple other places.

01:20:10.321 --> 01:20:13.065
[SPEAKER_00]: I've done some video clips with him and Scottie wrestling.

01:20:13.085 --> 01:20:15.788
[SPEAKER_00]: So I know who he is, you may not know who I am.

01:20:18.468 --> 01:20:24.397
[SPEAKER_00]: He said they fold out and then somebody will say like, oh, how many tickets is that going to be?

01:20:24.417 --> 01:20:28.162
[SPEAKER_00]: 50,000 and he immediately wrote back 55,000.

01:20:28.583 --> 01:20:32.268
[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, that seems like a lot.

01:20:32.989 --> 01:20:35.233
[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't do that many in before.

01:20:35.253 --> 01:20:37.356
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't do this often.

01:20:37.936 --> 01:20:43.725
[SPEAKER_00]: So I picked up a phone and I called this officer.

01:20:43.745 --> 01:20:45.167
[SPEAKER_00]: And I said, Dave,

01:20:46.075 --> 01:20:49.480
[SPEAKER_00]: I got one question for you, and he's like, what's that?

01:20:49.981 --> 01:20:54.407
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's like, how many tickets is a sellout at the Tokyo Dome?

01:20:54.427 --> 01:20:55.849
[SPEAKER_00]: And he was quiet for a second.

01:20:56.771 --> 01:20:59.515
[SPEAKER_00]: And then he said, you know, that could really good question.

01:21:00.636 --> 01:21:04.763
[SPEAKER_00]: And he sat there with me for a minute, and he just started stouting off numbers.

01:21:05.203 --> 01:21:15.238
[SPEAKER_00]: And he said, there's 46,000 seats that you can get in the stadium at the Tokyo Dome for a big ball game.

01:21:16.349 --> 01:21:30.766
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, there's going to be blockage and a couple of other things that go on in a stadium but that side, even though they're scaling down the stage, they're still going to have a stage.

01:21:31.527 --> 01:21:38.155
[SPEAKER_00]: So if you take that into account, plus thinking 5,000 on the floor,

01:21:38.776 --> 01:21:43.787
[SPEAKER_00]: somewhere between 45 and 48,000 might be the realistic number.

01:21:44.328 --> 01:21:55.553
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, he was off of memory and explaining that the ticket sales for Tana Hashian Omega in 2019 were about 38,000.

01:21:56.039 --> 01:21:56.980
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, okay.

01:21:57.841 --> 01:22:12.000
[SPEAKER_00]: So that give you an impression of just how much more how big what this is doing that it clear almost 10,000 more than the sell out that they announced for Tana Hashi and Omega.

01:22:12.020 --> 01:22:20.190
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, Karina Bushi, I think which was the last 120, 20 before the pandemic hit, they actually did

01:22:20.170 --> 01:22:30.104
[SPEAKER_00]: a ticket sales of 40,800 according to days with an announced ticket with Combs all about 42,000.

01:22:30.684 --> 01:22:35.691
[SPEAKER_00]: So there's only a cap of how much you can get.

01:22:35.711 --> 01:22:39.917
[SPEAKER_00]: So the idea of 55,000 might be a bit.

01:22:40.336 --> 01:22:49.512
[SPEAKER_00]: over Salus, but if you were just slightly under 50,000 might be exactly what they could get in because there are no cops.

01:22:50.033 --> 01:22:53.619
[SPEAKER_00]: They're not giving ticket count for whatever is like the ticket sales.

01:22:53.799 --> 01:22:58.587
[SPEAKER_00]: They can hang their hat on it and just and give you an authentic number and everyone can believe it.

01:22:58.988 --> 01:23:03.255
[SPEAKER_00]: This is the feather of all feathers and anyone to cap.

01:23:03.235 --> 01:23:04.517
[SPEAKER_00]: for for these tickets.

01:23:04.537 --> 01:23:10.005
[SPEAKER_00]: So when he when he worked shopped it with me and we spent about 10 minutes kind of talking it out.

01:23:10.466 --> 01:23:19.540
[SPEAKER_00]: He kind of came to the like 45, 48,000 range would be about what he think that the actual attendant is going to be.

01:23:20.341 --> 01:23:25.068
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so according to Wikipedia, which has cited its source.

01:23:26.230 --> 01:23:28.433
[SPEAKER_01]: And so you know, that is a

01:23:29.797 --> 01:23:34.762
[SPEAKER_01]: According to according to this and which does site sources other than just some guy on Wikipedia.

01:23:34.802 --> 01:23:40.707
[SPEAKER_01]: They're there But 46,000 or 45,600 for baseball.

01:23:40.907 --> 01:23:43.650
[SPEAKER_01]: That's just a few sold out a Tokyo Giants game.

01:23:43.670 --> 01:23:45.612
[SPEAKER_00]: So what do you get for him?

01:23:45.752 --> 01:23:59.685
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, no, he was right on he was right on there and then the That was I wasn't disputing that but I'm saying no, I'm just I like to get McFlower

01:24:00.509 --> 01:24:06.057
[SPEAKER_01]: You can, for events, it says get about 55,000 in there.

01:24:06.457 --> 01:24:13.307
[SPEAKER_01]: The maximum number of people that can be in the building, which wouldn't really, and that's the maximum number of you can get in the building.

01:24:13.327 --> 01:24:26.365
[SPEAKER_01]: Once you build the stage, once you put the ring up, once you put the, you know, then you're talking around 60,000, that's not gonna happen because there is gonna be a set, there is gonna be a stage, there's gonna be a ramp, there's gonna be a ring.

01:24:26.345 --> 01:24:38.353
[SPEAKER_01]: So I would say when max out, possibility realistically, 55 if they just have seats all over the outfield and if they sell the outfield bleachers.

01:24:38.513 --> 01:24:42.683
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, you're thinking about 5,000 people you get in on the field.

01:24:42.663 --> 01:24:44.105
[SPEAKER_00]: It's more than 6,000 here.

01:24:44.125 --> 01:24:55.560
[SPEAKER_00]: Which gets you to 50 and another 5,000 if they, you know, completely, oh no, you have to assume the baseball is like, to capacity, and that's the seeding that already exists.

01:24:55.580 --> 01:25:00.847
[SPEAKER_00]: So you take that 45, 600, and then you add 5,000 on the ground.

01:25:01.147 --> 01:25:06.935
[SPEAKER_00]: Then you subtract whatever blockage and whatever, like you need for stage setting.

01:25:07.256 --> 01:25:09.919
[SPEAKER_00]: So you take the 51,000 and

01:25:09.899 --> 01:25:18.554
[SPEAKER_00]: You may be able to get more than the 3,000 different, but you also have to like hedge for ethics and, indeed.

01:25:18.574 --> 01:25:18.995
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, yes.

01:25:19.395 --> 01:25:26.868
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'll mention one other thing in Japan, you are allowed to sell a certain number of SROs standing remotely seats around the concourse as well.

01:25:27.148 --> 01:25:29.633
[SPEAKER_01]: And just depends on how much you want to pack the join in.

01:25:30.013 --> 01:25:32.177
[SPEAKER_01]: And New Japan might want to pack this set up a gun.

01:25:32.663 --> 01:25:39.632
[SPEAKER_00]: So right now we're going to be in a position of if it over 50 or under 50, but either way, come on.

01:25:39.692 --> 01:25:45.460
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, what another the question of over 150, it's just like.

01:25:46.762 --> 01:25:50.607
[SPEAKER_01]: Do you mean that's Jeremy, that's about double last year.

01:25:51.247 --> 01:25:51.748
[SPEAKER_00]: I know.

01:25:52.449 --> 01:25:56.074
[SPEAKER_00]: That's more than they packed in both nights combined.

01:25:56.094 --> 01:25:56.314
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

01:25:56.735 --> 01:25:56.995
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:25:57.015 --> 01:26:00.780
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, certainly, because I think again,

01:26:01.992 --> 01:26:02.553
[SPEAKER_01]: 18.

01:26:02.613 --> 01:26:08.019
[SPEAKER_01]: The second allegedly and I don't buy it and something like 28 to 25.

01:26:08.079 --> 01:26:08.440
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.

01:26:08.460 --> 01:26:08.740
[SPEAKER_01]: No, no.

01:26:08.760 --> 01:26:09.421
[SPEAKER_01]: This is a monster.

01:26:09.641 --> 01:26:12.504
[SPEAKER_01]: This is an absolute, this town of Hoshy's retirement is a monster.

01:26:12.525 --> 01:26:16.109
[SPEAKER_01]: The Japanese will come out for a major retirement, right?

01:26:16.129 --> 01:26:22.616
[SPEAKER_01]: No one did one of its biggest crowds ever for Moodo's retirement and everybody knew new that Moodo could not move.

01:26:22.977 --> 01:26:24.339
[SPEAKER_01]: They weren't expecting a good match.

01:26:24.399 --> 01:26:29.805
[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't pride something pretty interesting out of them.

01:26:29.785 --> 01:26:33.830
[SPEAKER_01]: But everyone knew that there was not much left of Moodo, but they showed up to say goodbye.

01:26:34.591 --> 01:26:39.257
[SPEAKER_01]: And that is very, that is a very big deal in Japan and show up to say goodbye.

01:26:39.677 --> 01:26:43.282
[SPEAKER_01]: Antonahashi is getting a proper send off with a crowd like this.

01:26:43.542 --> 01:26:55.877
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's got to be good for morale now, national television for the first time in the Russell kingdom era, that in and man, make some stars, New Japan do the right thing, give them a reason to come back.

01:26:56.684 --> 01:26:59.107
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm really glad you're for jaggery for it.

01:26:59.127 --> 01:27:04.715
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's going to be a very memorable day.

01:27:04.735 --> 01:27:05.696
[SPEAKER_01]: You got a cry, aren't you?

01:27:05.896 --> 01:27:06.637
[SPEAKER_01]: You're going to cry.

01:27:06.737 --> 01:27:08.360
[SPEAKER_00]: Of course, I'm going to cry for it.

01:27:08.380 --> 01:27:15.489
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to sue me if I cry retirement and I'm going to cry like that.

01:27:15.549 --> 01:27:25.763
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to be like, I'm probably going to have to wear my glasses instead of my

01:27:26.030 --> 01:27:28.454
[SPEAKER_01]: What row are you in again?

01:27:28.734 --> 01:27:31.719
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm in the royal seat, right?

01:27:32.480 --> 01:27:36.626
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't have my ticket yet, but they're only like 40 of these tickets.

01:27:38.029 --> 01:27:38.750
[SPEAKER_00]: You don't have your ticket?

01:27:38.770 --> 01:27:39.631
[SPEAKER_00]: No.

01:27:39.651 --> 01:27:40.693
[SPEAKER_00]: No, I'm picking up that.

01:27:40.713 --> 01:27:41.033
[SPEAKER_00]: Pick it up.

01:27:41.574 --> 01:27:42.856
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that's right.

01:27:42.896 --> 01:27:43.176
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

01:27:43.297 --> 01:27:43.617
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

01:27:43.637 --> 01:27:46.341
[SPEAKER_01]: Because you got that through the actual NJPW.

01:27:46.762 --> 01:27:47.864
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:27:47.924 --> 01:27:48.745
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:27:48.845 --> 01:27:53.893
[SPEAKER_00]: They're going to get down on one knee and present it like a, like,

01:27:54.970 --> 01:27:56.552
[SPEAKER_01]: It comes in a very neat envelope.

01:27:56.572 --> 01:27:57.173
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll say that.

01:27:57.193 --> 01:27:57.693
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm excited.

01:27:57.893 --> 01:27:58.654
[SPEAKER_00]: I really am.

01:27:58.895 --> 01:28:03.460
[SPEAKER_01]: And hopefully English instructions on which gate to enter.

01:28:03.540 --> 01:28:04.301
[SPEAKER_01]: He'll appreciate that.

01:28:04.341 --> 01:28:05.102
[SPEAKER_01]: Let me get the watch.

01:28:05.583 --> 01:28:06.904
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but it is the audience.

01:28:07.345 --> 01:28:09.127
[SPEAKER_01]: It is, you know, the thing about that too.

01:28:09.547 --> 01:28:13.212
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I'm sure you know, it's probably in your receipt exactly what taking you bought.

01:28:13.232 --> 01:28:13.993
[SPEAKER_01]: That's not the problem.

01:28:14.013 --> 01:28:16.315
[SPEAKER_01]: But I forgot that they just do all that stuff with will call.

01:28:16.355 --> 01:28:18.598
[SPEAKER_01]: The rest you're doing with buy sumo tickets.com, right?

01:28:18.578 --> 01:28:25.629
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, yeah, I was working with a weaponized incompetence and trying to figure this all out.

01:28:26.050 --> 01:28:30.317
[SPEAKER_00]: And tell you, Jason, basically we said, you had to go to buy some motikets and do it that way.

01:28:30.337 --> 01:28:32.180
[SPEAKER_00]: And I was on English and they didn't agree.

01:28:32.680 --> 01:28:35.224
[SPEAKER_00]: Fine, I'll go to buy some motikets.

01:28:35.244 --> 01:28:38.149
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think I tried to figure like 15 minutes going to go to go get it out real easy.

01:28:40.292 --> 01:28:45.801
[SPEAKER_00]: And they fed X into you.

01:28:46.760 --> 01:28:47.922
[SPEAKER_01]: Wow, that's even cooler.

01:28:48.162 --> 01:28:50.706
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I bought my tickets far enough ahead of time.

01:28:50.746 --> 01:28:51.968
[SPEAKER_01]: I just had him fat next to the house.

01:28:52.108 --> 01:29:01.321
[SPEAKER_00]: I wasn't sure I'm going to work out because I bought him like a week ago, and I didn't have a mail room thing here that is problematic to see the least I'm not going to get into it.

01:29:01.802 --> 01:29:07.610
[SPEAKER_00]: But I saw the option to send it to the Tokyo to him hotel on the day I arrived.

01:29:07.630 --> 01:29:08.852
[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, hell, yes.

01:29:08.872 --> 01:29:09.693
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just going to do that.

01:29:09.733 --> 01:29:11.196
[SPEAKER_00]: And if it doesn't work out, that's fine.

01:29:11.356 --> 01:29:15.602
[SPEAKER_00]: But I'm just going to, it's Japan is going to work out.

01:29:15.667 --> 01:29:20.735
[SPEAKER_00]: what exactly like if it doesn't work out because I'm an idiot, not that.

01:29:20.755 --> 01:29:25.262
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, that that's going to show up exactly when it's supposed to where it's supposed to.

01:29:25.302 --> 01:29:25.823
[SPEAKER_01]: That's a great.

01:29:25.843 --> 01:29:26.905
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

01:29:27.085 --> 01:29:30.671
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, man, we did it another night.

01:29:30.691 --> 01:29:31.853
[SPEAKER_00]: He did it to the book.

01:29:32.238 --> 01:29:38.404
[SPEAKER_01]: not a lot of shows left to cover in the rest of the year, but plenty of news coming and we're going to have guests like you mentioned.

01:29:38.564 --> 01:29:40.126
[SPEAKER_01]: The keeping is strong style folks will be here.

01:29:40.486 --> 01:29:41.227
[SPEAKER_01]: A lot to come.

01:29:41.568 --> 01:29:50.337
[SPEAKER_01]: Of course next week, we'll also be looking at the other semi final match, the World Tag League finals and any angles that come, the point is that Tokyo dome show.

01:29:50.397 --> 01:29:52.058
[SPEAKER_01]: Christmas Coricans are coming as well.

01:29:52.138 --> 01:29:54.080
[SPEAKER_01]: So we've got enough to talk about, I think.

01:29:54.100 --> 01:29:55.402
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll be in good shape.

01:29:55.422 --> 01:29:58.225
[SPEAKER_00]: We are not going to be live on Christmas.

01:29:59.166 --> 01:29:59.646
[SPEAKER_00]: No.

01:30:00.098 --> 01:30:01.419
[SPEAKER_00]: But no mission.

01:30:01.920 --> 01:30:04.682
[SPEAKER_00]: Are you, you want to go live on New York day?

01:30:05.703 --> 01:30:05.984
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm down.

01:30:06.604 --> 01:30:07.885
[SPEAKER_00]: OK, so I'm going to be in Japan.

01:30:08.526 --> 01:30:18.716
[SPEAKER_00]: And so I've been after getting up on like Friday, and be ready at Friday at 7.30 in the morning, which sounds actually kind of awesome to have a cup of coffee and talk to something in Japan while I'm in Japan.

01:30:19.336 --> 01:30:19.997
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not so bad.

01:30:20.257 --> 01:30:21.799
[SPEAKER_01]: I did a couple of times last year.

01:30:22.299 --> 01:30:27.184
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not a tough, it's not a tough wake up, because your body clock's going to be all out of whack, and you'll be getting up early anyway.

01:30:27.244 --> 01:30:28.485
[SPEAKER_01]: Whether you want to or not.

01:30:28.988 --> 01:30:43.993
[SPEAKER_00]: But I have some ires in the fire about some ideas of what we're gonna do for our Christmas show because we're obviously not gonna record, but if all thing workout, we're gonna have something really fun for you guys to enjoy before we're cooking them.

01:30:44.750 --> 01:30:45.191
[SPEAKER_01]: Very good.

01:30:45.351 --> 01:30:45.612
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

01:30:45.632 --> 01:30:47.495
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, with that in mind, we're going to sign off for this week.

01:30:47.535 --> 01:30:49.219
[SPEAKER_01]: I want to thank everybody that joined us here, love.

01:30:49.700 --> 01:30:50.902
[SPEAKER_01]: Everybody that watches this later.

01:30:50.922 --> 01:30:53.827
[SPEAKER_01]: Everyone's listens later on the podcast feed.

01:30:53.868 --> 01:30:56.092
[SPEAKER_01]: We really appreciate the time you give to us out here.

01:30:56.232 --> 01:30:58.316
[SPEAKER_01]: And we love doing the show for you.

01:30:58.396 --> 01:31:00.801
[SPEAKER_01]: And we look forward to talking to you next week.

01:31:00.841 --> 01:31:03.466
[SPEAKER_01]: So for Jeremy Feinstein, I'm Stephen Conway.

01:31:03.626 --> 01:31:05.049
[SPEAKER_01]: This has been Speaking of Strong Style.

01:31:05.129 --> 01:31:06.572
[SPEAKER_01]: And we'll talk to you again, real soon.