MJF’s Next Challenger & Jacob Fatu vs Roman Reigns Clash in Italy Debate | Takedown

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[SPEAKER_01]: It is time for take down Paul and I are here on Tuesday night.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was about to say Monday night.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Tuesday night, we've a bunch of stuff to talk about Paul.

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[SPEAKER_01]: just finished watching double or nothing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we'll talk a little bit about that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll talk about what's next for MJF, because I think that is part of my intrigue, really, with the AWS TV right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll talk a little bit about Saturday Night's main event and what Paul thought was a positive differentiation production wise and the reason why I just skipped it completely.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and then we'll talk some clash in Italy and this Roman versus Jacob match and what could happen or what should happen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you've just finished double or nothing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, few hours today earlier today.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And your first kind of thought bubble was why did everyone love the show so much?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, no, okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think everyone love the show so much because it was great show, but like it's it's like everyone's saying and a lot of people, I shouldn't say everyone, obviously not everyone, but a lot of people are saying it's the best paper you they've ever done.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I like I just don't understand that like I just I feel like there's so many other ones that just immediately jumped to mind that we're better.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I get not to take anything away from the show is great show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But like I you know the wrestling if you're just talking in ring wrestling it definitely is way up there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: but there's other things that go into making a great show that this one was missing in some ways.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, and that's not to say it was a bad show at all.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like it was, well, we're at the money.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I highly recommend it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, probably least top 10 shows they've ever done.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe even closer to top five.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What was missing?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, um, debuts surprises, um, I mean, you did have the co-fletcher return.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You had the Kevin night heel turn, um, but I mean, like, no, like, big debut.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'd best return, I guess, to make, make fully.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was on the pre-show, but, and that was announced ahead of time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I wouldn't necessarily count that as a surprise.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that was very good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: One thing that, like, I loved the segment that they did right before the show, like the thing with him and Jeff and Darby.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought, I think I was one of the best things on the show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, so I mean, again, like it's not, like it was severely lacking.

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[SPEAKER_00]: In fact, I would say the dynasty maybe had better inring than this show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But this, but the extras on this show put it over dynasty.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So like if you're talking about, but I look back to like last year's all in, which had incredible wrestling up and down the show, but it also was the culmination of a major storyline with hangman and at a page.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You had a Megan Alcada, which was a dream match that we hadn't seen and so long and it was an awesome match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You had that Tony Stormer Sadie's match, which was incredible.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like there was that there was a bunch of great stuff on that on that show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yet all out 2021, which I still think is the best paper you they've ever done.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the first Wemley show, which I thought, you know, the biggest, I thought that company's never seen bigger than then they were on that day.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, of course, everyone, you know, you had the punk thing that kind of runes it in some people's eyes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I mean, it was still a great show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so yeah, like all that those two are those three are the ones that immediately spring to mind, but there's a few others, but again, like these are like all time great shows, and this is a company that in my opinion does the best paper views of any company in history.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So to say that they're not the best, but it might be top five somehow.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm insulting the show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's always how I feel, you know, and me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I think it's not that you're insulting it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's people are saying this is the best and you're saying.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've seen better and it's just just the context in which yeah, where we are two days away from it had you come in on Sunday night and said that you probably got a lot of heat from a lot of people because they were I'm getting it now even you know, we're just so

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[SPEAKER_00]: fired up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I from that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And here's the thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I mean, not only was it a great show, but it came out of time when the company needs a great show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It had a sold-out crowd in the biggest media market in the world.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, you know, so it was an important show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and WWE has been down a little bit of late, although I didn't think there's some positive signs there too, but you know, so people sent some momentum switch and they want to get on the train.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think fully coming in is a big part of that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think we'll be a big part of things going forward because if he can continue to do things like he did on Sunday, I think people don't even necessarily realize what he can bring to the table in some cases.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Some of Mick Foley also though is people believe he's a good person.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, and to leave WWE, they have to be bad people.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it just lines up with the narrative that they want to believe with a WWE versus WWE.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just completely fine by the way, because I've my with, you know, the public facing WWE as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But that is some of it and you know it is like I don't know what Nick could do I think he's a great spokesperson I think if he was if he put on the AEW shirt like he has previously put on the WWE shirt I think it could be I think it could be really good for him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it'd be really good for them I'm just dude been watching WWE F since the mid 70s

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm a little intrigued at how much he will be willing to make it his home promotion of all time, you know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like I think like you you brought it up like spokesman like I've got I took some heat from some people for suggesting that fully should be Like I can realize the reason yeah, but that's not what I meant and and so like I don't want an on screen GM I don't want a commissioner I don't want anything like that like that's WWE it's doesn't work they tried it and a W it's stupid

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[SPEAKER_00]: I want him to be like a spokesman for the company.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The guy that comes out and makes these announcements that sometimes Tony Con does.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The guy that comes out and does a promo putting over the stipulations of a match, maybe getting in someone's face and saying, do you realize what you're getting yourself into?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've done this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is what, you know, like he is so good at that stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he can he can draw fans in emotionally he attached himself to Darby to the point where like when I'm watching that main event There was a point in that match where I literally was thinking come on Darby like I've never feel like that You know, but I felt it in that moment and and then he didn't pull through and I felt disappointed even though like I think and everybody kind of new MJF was gonna win I was calling Darby to win but

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, like it, you could have gone either way, but I, but but Mick got me in with that promo, you know, and, and that segment that they did because it was like, oh, many can't lose now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, and then he did lose.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, like it's, it's, he is so good at that stuff and WWE had that and they didn't, and they weren't using it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And, and it's such a waste that I think he has a point to prove now, too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's got nothing to do with in-ring.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Khan thought creatively for Mick.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He said that Mick is going to be on the pre-shows for from here until forever, I guess, with Renee.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't, I don't watch the pre-shows.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I only caught the tail end of the Mick thing with Darby and MJF just because I wanted to kind of make sure that the feed was working and such and I like, oh, these guys run.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And my initial thought was

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[SPEAKER_01]: Man, I wish they did something right, yeah, but you know, you have this opportunity to do something with him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think he's good on the pre-shows.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's kind of a waste of him being on the pre-shows.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But if it gets him in the door and it's something that he wants to do and it starts your relationship off well, and I'm all for it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I think there's some creative things that they could do with him to really help sell certain steps like as he the one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's going to help us be okay with hangman, the stipulation with hangman, you know, you know, could he cushion that blow for folks that that's a he'd get in his ear and say like he could go the other way and say, listen, you made a promise like, do you understand what you're doing here, if you go back on your word, these people are never going to trust you again, you know, I said they all trusted make when he retired.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then someone and then Max is going to say, you hypocrite.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I watched you retire and then you came right back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, so, you know, it's, yeah, they can go a lot of ways with that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, I'm excited for that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, and I didn't think I would be.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't watch the, like, I watched the pre-shows.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I watched the matches.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, as soon as the Renee and MJF are already in, and the Mick or whoever else is on there, I just skip all that RJ.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh god, yeah, Jeff Jarrett, but but I did obviously watch that because okay, I saw actually I was I was when I saw Mick in the ring with a microphone.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was like okay, I'm he's gonna do the hardsell here Because I remember there was one paper that I can't remember what one it was, but Eddie Kingston cut a promo There's like 10 minutes left in the pre-show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if they ran fast or something and Eddie Kingston just cut this amazing promo for this paper view where he put over like all the big matches

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm just like fired up for this show now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, why don't they do this every time?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they never did it since.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought the show was this so much fun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't like, I don't think of shows and go, well, that was a 10 that was a 9.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I watched them and I talk about them and then I kind of forget them, for the most part, if somebody asked me last year,

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[SPEAKER_01]: what was the best AEW show?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can remember moments more than I can remember full events.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I can remember Will Osprey doing the Spanish fly off the top of the cage.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can remember that stuff, but I can't remember what else was on that show necessarily.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just because I'm so focused on next next next.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And there's so much stuff to it when I was like, but when I was a kid, like, you know, I could remember, and when it's only really W WF and WCW, I could remember cards and go, you know, and rewatch them, but I don't do it like that anymore.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I had so much fun, and even the stadium stampede, which as you know, is not my cup of tea at all, I had such a blast with that match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was so much fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I hated it, and I was so looking forward to that match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just thought the comedy just alms, and that's why I was so disappointed in it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The wrestling was amazing, like when they just focused on the in-ring stuff, it was so incredible, but every time they went back stage, I was like, oh, it was like rolling my eyes everything they did.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I maybe it's just me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: When you talk about fighting, like if you had taken out the moxley match and the Athena match that were back to back,

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[SPEAKER_00]: I might be going in saying this is the best show I've ever seen like then because then it would have been non stock just oh I'm into just like everything but though that they should have dropped they should have dropped the meaner and Athena match cold from that show and put it on television.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that was, and I didn't actually think that was a bad match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought that was, no, no, maybe mine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought that was Amina's best match in a little while.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, Athena was fine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, she was doing a lot of selling and stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That match wasn't necessary except for the fact that they promised, you know, a couple of, uh, couple of matches.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think I would like a moxley match more if I hadn't just seen them wrestle on Wednesday.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I have almost the

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[SPEAKER_01]: So for that but you know what I did like the heel hook.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean the ankle lock transitions and all that's I thought that's I was fun because it was so different from anything else on the show and that's why I liked will Osprey and Smoto Joe so much love will Osprey and Smoto Joe because that was also a lot different than that might have been my favorite match on the show even though I don't necessarily think it was the best match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Joe walking away from the Osprey Oscutter was like the best spot on the show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought the two MVP's of that show for me were Samoa Joe and Kazuch gocada.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was just like, that's why you guys are the masters.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is this stuff that I would have watched 20 years ago or maybe not 20 for O'Connor, but for Samoa Joe, like I would have just just like 20 years ago I'm rooting for this dude to just kill it and he's still killing it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I still think O'Connor is the goat.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I can't, like I know,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Takeshita's doing more stuff and it's more athletic and it's more, uh, you know, the moves and the moves and the moves, but the timing and the selling and the exact knowing the exact moment went to sell something or not or the like the kick out at one was friggin amazing and then Joe did it in his match, which I thought was a mistake, but

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, yeah, I just, I was just so I was like, yeah, no, I could create this for us.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've ever seen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, no, Ocada was was amazing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That spot near the end.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, when he went for the drop kick and then to catch the countered it goes for the count pin and then kicks out at one and then to catch it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Just hit some with that power drive me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's like, oh, it was just beautiful.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the storytelling was incredible in that match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was one of the best matches of the year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Easily the best match on the show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Ocada's not going to get very many rustler of the year votes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And yet, he's got the match with Tata Hashi.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he's got this one on his recipe for 2026.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think there might have been one other one too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, and meanwhile, yeah, probably Osprey is going to end up getting it even though like honestly Osprey's hasn't even had the great matches, but he's in the better story lines of the more important matches.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think by the end of the year, he'll probably get it again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you know, the matches will get better, too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I mean, this this the match with Joe was was awesome.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's like there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They are just putting on like such great paper views shows these days.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So saying like one has been on the other like I mean it's just so far in a way better than the WWE ones like it's not even in the same conversation.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Although they need to be because I mean they're number two and also you're having you're being asked to pay for them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: you know, and his a big commitment man on a Sunday night and I had people telling me, well, you know, you get the next day off and I was like, but I want to have that day off, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to like, didn't have the next day off.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So even if I'd watch that show live, I guarantee you I'm falling asleep in the moxley match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I would have had to wake up the next day and watch it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was, uh, I was talking to Jeremy, Jeremy, and I did the, uh, the picture.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was telling him, I was like, man, I really think this show should have started at seven instead of eight East Coast time because you're running so late, a lot of these people are taking public transportation like I'm sure New York is is better than most cities with that stuff, but who wants to get out of that place at, you know, after midnight or one o'clock in the morning and to go home.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so when it didn't start at four I was so bummed because like okay here's my plan I'm gonna start at four I'm gonna watch an hour then I gotta go do something and I'll come back and I won't have it But I couldn't watch anything before I had to go out So I had to watch I had to watch the show on pretty quickly and then you hear after the show That people can't even get home because I didn't hear that there was something with

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[SPEAKER_01]: the parking lot or the gate or they're like something screwed up and and people were you know having to having to get stuck.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, I get it Memorial Day holiday.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't mean that you can just run five hour shows and like yeah or again start even start at like three yeah, you know, like I mean, and then go with the ones you want.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's no reason they couldn't yeah, and then you know, see your what noon on the west coast?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, that's great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but yeah, it was, I mean, you know what that all said.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I, I think I understand the paper you did really well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I heard from somebody that works for the company, not that they said it was sounded like it was trending over 200,000, but he didn't think it was going to end up that high.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But he was thinking 180, that was amazing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, and that's I said 175 before the show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I can't say I'm surprised, but it is amazing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now what I don't know is if that includes my AAW or not, but even if it does, like those people are paying.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I mean, I don't see any reason why I shouldn't.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And a lot of them are months to month.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's not much different than a is cheaper, but it's not much different than buying it, you know, as a paper.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's why they do it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So they can get your money every month.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, if it includes it, or if it doesn't include either way, it's phenomenal.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The thing that wanted to ask you about and kind of the topic number one here is what's the next match and maybe that even the next two matches for mjf heading into all in.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I, you know what, we, the name that kept coming up in the discord when we brought this up was on Draw Day.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that's, that's a really good match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, you know, they built him up really well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, he's positioned well to, to be in that position to challenge a heel champion.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then if you don't feel loses, maybe call us, you know, doesn't want him in the group anymore.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, there's a couple others that I thought of.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, and the first one was one actually that I thought was going to be the challenge or even regardless of, of who won this match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think Kenny Omega is a possibility.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Would you, would you do Kenny Omega forbidden door, would you do him at retribution?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, is it is retribution official yet?

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[SPEAKER_00]: the AW announced it today.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, did they okay?

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[SPEAKER_00]: In Montreal.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that is exactly what everyone.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So if that's the case, then yeah, maybe that makes more sense for Montreal, especially because it's in Canada.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, so now that that's official, then yeah, I guess that that would be the place for that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The other one could be Kevin night.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because Kevin night did get a win over M.J. F on TV and you got to figure that they're going to try to pay that off.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now it is two heels against each other, but I don't think that matters much in A. W. You know, like the fans will pick their favorite.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was feeling.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've been feeling that Kevin Knight as a heel is probably going to be cheered within about two months more than he was being cheered as a baby face.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If things go right, especially if he gets hooked up with the right person, because I do think he's probably going to need a manager.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what, maybe he ends up with the Hertz Indicate.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: A lot of people are saying Swarve.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, really?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, swear.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That works, too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Nanna.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously, Nanna can talk for him then.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, let's should clearly try and get him, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like if if we're just talking about storyline, like, Yeah, I'll let you in and then Kevin night, maybe pick somebody else.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The only problem there is I think him in that group is going to make him look really small.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like there, there's a lot of big dudes in that group.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's what I'd be worried about.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And not only small, but like a lot of big personalities in that group as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, so is he gonna overshot a Kyle Fletcher because he's go kata, you know, that's tough.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I wouldn't put him in there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I think, okay, you think storyline or college should want him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then yeah, in the sort of picking of who he goes with maybe yeah, maybe they do like a kind of a mini recruiting that we could maybe Joe wants them for the ops, you know, and something like that maybe moxley wants for the deathwriters and then, you know, he ends up with non and swear or he says, hey, you know what I'm a free agent, baby, you know, like something like that the jet the jet flies alone.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not going to ROH, but he thinks he just lost on the pre show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm good with I'm good with the STP.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll just listen to Stone Temple Pilots if I need my STP.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So the one that I've

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[SPEAKER_01]: Continue to talk about it's mystical just because I want to see it in a good one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: San Jose, Ms. Gold have to lose, uh, that would be interesting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm going to let something up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right, that's kind of the thing these days is you got to put some up to get a match and the other one I thought about of the ones that you haven't named yet was and it's probably a month to early and then if they do it in July, which it feels like omega you don't really have that opportunity, but I thought Jericho

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[SPEAKER_01]: Jericho because if you just want to burn someone right like a Jericho's fine to be burned like a Jericho losing means nothing What that's it also be Montreal

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, that's what I'm saying though is if they set if we believe that Kenny Omega is the big match for that retribution show because either Kenny can beat him and go to will or mjf beats Kenny to set up the will match like Kenny just being involved makes that program seem a lot bigger and a lot better.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I saw someone suggest the possibility of maybe, if Kenny wants to match, because Max is beat him twice already.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Max says, hey, you know what, I did this with Hangman.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You want to match, fine, but you never challenge for the title again if you don't win.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And with Kenny, I could actually see that, like that's, yeah, that's cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe it was never going to challenge for the title again anyways.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then at least that takes it out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All these people hope and they're just going to win the title again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, you know, my time's passed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I do kind of get the sense with Kenny that he's not necessarily confident in himself in the ability to carry a company like a world champion does.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But we know the end game is going to be Will Osprey anyways, exactly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that should be a long title rank.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because they've had, I think that five title changes in the last year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, uh, pre, uh, in the discord, our buddy, pre reminded us of something that Andrew Zarian had tweeted earlier in the year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, the way that Andrew tweets were kind of like, you know,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, a little birdie told me and he was like, it's going to be very interesting with the world title scene this year and that those kind of really all he said, and we were like, okay, what does that mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Does that mean there's going to be more title switches?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is it going to mean someone else who are not thinking is going to hold it?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, from, you know, they've switched the title a lot so far.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Alvarez was saying, Alvarez had something like that to a few months back, just saying like everyone is looking at it like a linear line from Hangman to MJF to will and you got to remember there could be some other people involved along the way and and there may be some title changes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're not expecting or something like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So Those guys are probably talking the same people.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And who don't necessarily tell them the same things, but, you know, they kind of give them breadcrumbs that, you know, these guys reporters and they can figure out what they're being told.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, folks in the in the chat, if you let us know who you want to see M.J.F.

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[SPEAKER_01]: face is next one or two title defenses.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'd be interested to hear what people think.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The discord reeds and good ones in the discord, but I think we named all the ones who.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I hadn't seen anyone talk about Kevin night.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was one that just kind of popped into my mind.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I love the on draw day match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: he kind of has the bell.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but I personally for me, I don't think it's that big of a deal, but just because Andreye being in that match would be big, but yeah, who knows.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, other name I mentioned in the discord, I probably weigh down the list, but it's a possibility, especially if he's going to be facing Will Osprey at all in, is Callum Newman.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, where, you know, like Calum Newman could say, you know, like I'll show you how to beat this guy kind of thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then he loses and then that that that builds attention between us brand newman that they're, you know, doing in New Japan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's kind of a weak match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It wouldn't be the main event to the show, but I think the main event to the show is going to be the Owen finals anyways.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So Possibly if it's MJ F and a title match, I kind of just think

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[SPEAKER_01]: he's kind of the magnet for that stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I would be interested to say, I've been, I've been following the news.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is there anything on Mercedes?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Mercedes and Techlook could main event for Bindor.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Be interesting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if it would, but it'd be interesting for sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, they thought of me in the event with a women's match at some point.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And a returning Mercedes, challenging for the title as a baby face, the only thing we've heard about that wild card spot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: is that Dave said that he thought they were going to announce it on the paper view.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So something probably happened and they're just kind of finalizing it and he thinks that they'll announce something tomorrow.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I heard something and I don't want to say it on air, so maybe I'll tell you off air.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, I just blew all the entire audience.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know, but I just can't.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So let's change gears here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's talk some WWE.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, you watched Saturday night's main event.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now I will explain myself here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I totally understand what you're going to say.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, but go ahead.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought that they had they just failed in promoting the show and the one thing that WWE is usually really good at is marketing and promoting and sometimes and this is a little bit of my worry with clash in Italy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sometimes overdoing it to what the actual value of the show is and you kind of feel deflated sometimes when you watch and that that's the whole

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[SPEAKER_01]: Russell Paloza thing for me for last year was I just thought that they built that thing up and I was so excited and then I was like this is like a C++ paper view, but for Saturday night's main event.

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[SPEAKER_01]: A. I didn't even think they had a main event for one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought there was nothing that was bigger than a raw or smack down main event.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And in some cases, I feel like most raw or smack downs had better main events than what they were promoting for matches.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then secondly, this is why I don't watch collision for the most part, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I want.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I want them to do the work to get me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to do the work for these companies to kind of just put their, you know, C plus game out there and I'm just going to just like Pavlov's dogs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I'm in no matter what, you guys can just give me whatever and I'm, I just love rushing so much like that's not my life anymore.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I would have watched that show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: if they built it up in a way that I thought was valuable.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But otherwise, to get me on a Saturday night when that's date night for me, I would have to watch it late anyways and by the time I got home and it was Sunday and I was like, I have a W on Sunday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not going to sit through this and then I even said in our discord chat I said, hey, you know, if something happens, I'll go watch that thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: nobody said anything was must see so I was no no I don't have to watch it no and and I did I agree with that last part for sure um so yeah you're right and and I would say that they this was like the opposite of what they don't really do you know to where like if they if they had promoted this show and made it seem like something you wanted to see I think you would have watched it and you probably would have been happy with what you saw but you actually might have even been let down that nothing happened quite in quote

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, now what I will say, I enjoyed the show, um, I would definitely say it's if you didn't watch it, it's not anything you need to go out of your way to go back and see.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not saying that, but I'm saying for the people that chose to watch it, I'm sure most people felt like I did.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And, and it was, it was a, it was a good nice way to spend a couple hours watching wrestling on a Saturday night or Sunday morning or whenever you watched it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um and like a couple of things like when we I remember when we watched backlash we both have the same observation like it looks and feels just like a normal TV show like it you know it's the same set it's the same I think maybe we're in the same building as the night before and the matches you know they were longer and maybe a little bit better but not appreciably more important or anything.

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[SPEAKER_00]: In this case.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They started out the show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They did a video graph.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They did video package showing you the history of Saturday and it's made a event with a lot of on clips.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Before every title match, they did a thing like a two, three minute video package, focusing on that particular title, showing highlights of old champion.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it made it feel like you're watching something important.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You had Lillian Garcia doing the announcing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's different.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They had a different set.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They had a different ring, like ring aprons,

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[SPEAKER_00]: So in that sense, I thought it was, that part of it was a success.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, guess what?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I am a, I am kind of the audience for something like that, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And would you, but you didn't know us that, that end would do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's exactly, you know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that they did that the first show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, and there was a little bit of that on the first show, like if you think back to when when was it December 2024, when they when they brought it back, they did have a little bit of that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's when they brought Jesse back and they did the old school thing in the crowd and everything.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So there's a little bit of that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They had the microphone coming down from the ceiling.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But then the other thing was they had

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[SPEAKER_00]: one of the hottest crowds for a US show that I can remember.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I'm probably going to say that's a brand and day we're saying when they would be kept it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like that, the first match on the show, like, oh my god, I can't remember a match that over delivered as much as that because I was expecting nothing from this match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was Charlotte and Alexa and Rhea against Jaden or

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[SPEAKER_00]: and Mission carried the heavy load for her team.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Jade was barely in there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Befab was in there and she didn't screw anything up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I mean, the crowd was so into everybody, like Charlotte and she was having so much fun and you could see it on her face and, and Rhea, like made this hot tag and the place came on glued and it wasn't like, at first you like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think like to the point, are these sweetening this, but then no, because when the women's tag match happened later, like, okay, this is a crowd.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just reaction, I was expecting me in the first one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they were right back for the main event too, because Logan Paul was getting insane heat.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Poor guy, too, did you hear about him?

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, what happened?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Taurus Tricep.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, no, no, man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, maybe they're gonna have to turn Montez, no.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, Paul him in on Raw, which you'll see because you've got all yet, but Paul came in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's basically said, you know, when I, when I do your guys as deals, I sign it as the vision.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't sign it as Logan Paul and Austin theory.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So theoretically, he could put anybody in the vision as the tag team champion is maybe his

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[SPEAKER_00]: like a he posted a picture of himself looking pretty jacked so okay so there you go I mean that I love that team actually I mean I'm not a huge fan of Austin theory, but I like Bronson read Noston theory as a team better than Logan Paul Noston theory I will say that Not as good as killer bronze would be but that's like bronze got bigger things on his plate

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, yeah, so you know, again, I enjoyed it, but if someone asked me like I had a friend who went to Double or nothing and any of the shows that it was the best crowd he'd ever been to one of the best rest and shows he'd ever seen live And he said, oh, I haven't watched any Saturdays here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Ben, I was talking about a good voice and I was like, you don't need to watch it Like if you want to go ahead and you'll probably enjoy it, but you absolutely do not need to see it and I would tell that to anybody

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I enjoyed the show and if I was going to go back and watch one of these shows, it would be the WWE one, just because it's number one, because it's only like, took me in two hours watch it, yes, you know, there wasn't as many commercials and stuff either on the show, which was was also good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I wanted to pick up versus CSPN as far as the production is, and most people don't pay for peacock, right, like it's or they pay very little.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They used to give a lot of those free deals.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if they still do or how much they do that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It used to also be the cheapest.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not, I don't know if it's the cheapest anymore, but I think Scott Young, you know, from the rap, plugged to Keylon Scott, I think he says every year on Thanksgiving or something, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Thanks, I think he gets $4 for pays $4 for a year of Peacock.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He does that every year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that man must have like 30 email addresses.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, so I enjoyed it and you know, and they set up some stuff for for the clash, which you know, I'm sure we're going to talk about next and so you know, it was it was a good use of time, but really it was like a televised house show, you know, that was a lot of fun and it was a good way to watch, but if you missed it, you didn't miss anything built, they'll recap it on raw and you know, and you know, okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's that look cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, all right, so for

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[SPEAKER_01]: Clashing Italy, the tribal combat match, Roman Reigns, versus Jacob Fattu, I'll be interested to see what you think about the angle.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The angle kind of reminded me a little bit of Gina Corona on Ronda Rousey.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I won't say any more than that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We are, they are definitely trying to figure out how hot Jacob is, I think.

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[SPEAKER_01]: because the stipulation for this match is basically for the head of the table, who's the chief.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And in their promo, they're go home segment.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Romans said, look, if you win, I got to deal with that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I got to follow your lead, but you're not going to win.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And when I win, you got to follow my lead.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Jacob was just like, sounds like a win win to me because,

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[SPEAKER_01]: If even if I lose, you're kind of protecting me here from being fired and then I'm not going to lose and so I'm going to dog walk you and then the segment ended.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, I mean, I don't know creatively what you can do with Roman reigns if he loses.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because his whole gimmick is the head of the table that's like his that's everything for him for his character.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you'd have to figure out how to reboot him or, you know, kind of get that back at some point and Jacob.

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[SPEAKER_01]: His personality isn't really set up in that same way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you know, solos solos would actually be the funniest one if he was actually like that would be actually good comedy, but.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They, I'm, I'm trying to figure out what do they really want us to expect here?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Not what are they going to do, I swear they, what are they selling us on?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I sort of feel that they're like, okay, Jacob, you're hot, but you're not that hot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And this is about where you're getting

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[SPEAKER_01]: And maybe there's an angle coming out of it where he loses and he still attacks Roman and leaves both usos laying and he's basically forcing pierces hand and you know he's got to go away and then at some point.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Roman's got to face somebody else and the only person he can think of to be his partner's crazy S Jacob and he gets him and he gets him back and Jacob is kind of the, you know, back back there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I can think of something like that where you take Jacob away for a little bit and then you bring him back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just can't see what the story would be for Jacob to win.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's the part where I'm a little kind of confused.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's, okay, so I had two things sprung to mind.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The initial thought was, okay, he's gonna lose.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then he's basically gonna be in that role in the bloodline where he's subservient and Roman is gonna be going out of his way to make a point.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he's gonna be like, make it him do stuff he doesn't wanna do and making it clear that he is lower on the pecking order.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So essentially what we've got at that point

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[SPEAKER_00]: the original bloodline with Jacob Fattu and the Sami Zain role.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then eventually you build to Sami's comedy, though, Jacob can't be comedy because if Jacob is comedy, he loses all of that that he is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So not that part of it, but you build to where

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's getting frustrated with Roman and and you can see it and you can see it and then eventually he does what Sammy did and turns on him sticks up for himself and then you you get that that blow off match down the road and then maybe only this time maybe he wins, you know, unlike Sammy the other thing I could see possibly is that he.

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[SPEAKER_00]: has the use so's in his back pocket and they help him beat Roman and now he's in charge of the bloodline with the use so's and Roman is not necessarily in that semi role but he is you know like clearly the guy that they you know they used him and now you know now he he's where he doesn't want to be and and he would not last in that role for very long like not

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[SPEAKER_00]: you know, I mean, he's going to disappear anyways, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like he's leaving in just or he's no, then he's back now, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's he's back on those shows.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, the the whole thing was, you know, he was going to be around more this year, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like the part of the part of the thing or maybe that was part of the work.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he was going to bring him back so he can be, you know, number four in in Jacob's bloodline.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, so it's it's interesting and then of course they could do what you what you brought up You know, where he just beats him and then yeah, and then he won't he refuses like I'm not I'm not bound down to anybody and then he you know He gets fired and then you know, we don't seem for a while But I think like yeah, they are they are really testing the waters and maybe they don't even 100% know what they're gonna do

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[SPEAKER_00]: because it feels like no matter what happens, there is another match coming at some point, maybe summer time, maybe survivor series, where they, you know, it's almost like a blow off or like that's the big match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Although this one, because this is too soon to be the blow off of this way too soon, in my opinion.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think so too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, I can't imagine

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[SPEAKER_01]: that they put this thing together, just to burn Jacob's heat, just for Roman of all people who doesn't need it, so they got to have some under their sleeve, man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so I mean, to me, like a really good dummy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I am a betting man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So if I, if I was bad, I don't know what the odds are, but if I was betting, I might throw a buck or two on Jacob.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Just it feels like they could do that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think it hurts Roman.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then it means that Roman probably is getting the win at the big match later down the road.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because if your match is pretty big favorite here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If your long-term plan is Roman versus whoever at WrestleMania next year,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I don't think it hurts that match to have Roman lose now, but if Roman were to lose in November, you know, December, like that, it does hurt it then, but now he can get the wind back down the road.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So from bed online A G from earlier today.

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[SPEAKER_01]: the odds were Roman minus 700, but two plus 400.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's pretty big.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's after Monday, and I raw.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So whatever, that's probably not smart money coming in, but it's just people betting based on what they saw and what they think's gonna happen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that MJFDarby lines lift a bunch of times in the last week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I was surprised at how much.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, again, I talked to, you know, people that were very close and they didn't know what was going to happen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And one of them was pretty convinced Darby was going to win, even though he didn't know he didn't hurt anything, but he just sat based on the story lines and everything and what he thought where he thought they were going and everything.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He thought Darby would win and he was pretty surprised.

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[SPEAKER_00]: when he didn't win.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, um, and me, again, like I was, I didn't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm watching the match today, and it might as well have been Sunday.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I had no idea who won.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And literally, there's one point in the match, and I was like, come on, Darby.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it was one point where he went up to the top rope, and he was going to hit the coffin drop, and then MJF, I don't think it was the time you guys knees up, but he rolled out of the way or something, and that was, it was right then on

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[SPEAKER_00]: And, and I like I really like I felt disappointed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was really wanting Derby to win and this was nothing to do with business.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just me as a fan watch in the match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I like feeling like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's kind of crazy because I think the thing that you missed from that AEW show,

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[SPEAKER_01]: was just watching it with people.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because people were fighting now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't exactly watch a lot of it with them though, but I could sense that, you know, the people who were were really interested were really fired up for it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, and it builds on each other and you're all getting yourself going into everything.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I will say, like, if I was watching live and I was commenting in the show thread and everything,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, like I said, I hated that same stampede match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if I would have hated it as much watching it live.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I definitely would have kept my comments to myself because I don't want to ruin it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to ruin anybody's fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I'm not the person that goes into threads and just says the exact opposite of what everyone else is saying.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, like if I don't like something, I will say it at the end.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, so I'm not just, you know, hurting the mood of the people that are watching live.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I really try hard not to do that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, that's the talk about just quickly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Some of the other clash in Italy matches here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Cody and Gunther is gonna be on the hour of ESPN.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it sounds like that match is opening, actually, is my guess.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Unless, because the two other, the two matches they said, we're Cody and Gunther and Rhea and Jade, we're gonna be on the ESPN.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's, I mean, that'll have a hot crowd, but probably isn't going to be a long match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So Cody and Gunther, you know, again, I'm trying to sort of visualize, you know, could, could Gunther, Gunther winning the title here would be kind of a, you know, uh, in a sense, a breath of fresh air.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The Cody is the, the tipi top.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If I was WWE,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Try to think of when when will Cody have to do a lot of the promotional work for Street Fighter.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hmm, it comes out in October, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So probably summer slime, like after summer slime, summer sounds early this year, I think.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It would be in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think nice for him to be away for a couple months.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, not he's great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And this is not because art in there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I saw the trailer and he's he's only like, he'd look like almost like a comedy guy in the newest trailer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's in it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: just as much as anybody else.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe more than most characters.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But they're like short-lived.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're kind of character, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I can't stand it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't, like I don't, I didn't watch any of the Street Fighter movies, so I mean, I don't either, but I do, I do, I did play a decent eye.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I played the game when I played the game in the NDRK.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That dates me a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But Roman, Roman has a nice little, uh,

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[SPEAKER_01]: thing of creating the fireball with I think he's a kuma, but they both seem to be like pretty decent, you know, when you have so many characters, yeah, you know, there's good, they're going to be bit players, I'm sure, but yeah, they're probably making the roles seem bigger like on the trailers, they're showing on WWE television.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I sense that Cody and Roman,

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[SPEAKER_01]: are probably decently well known from a lot of the other characters, so I think that they should utilize them in the marketing for sure, like, yeah, you know, get the rustling fans out there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, the movie looks fun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's that's the big deal to me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The movie looks like it,

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[SPEAKER_01]: is having fun with the idea of itself, and that there's gonna be crazy action, and I'm sure the Street Fighter die hard, so we'll have little Easter eggs that they'll enjoy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like the movie looks pretty good, so I'm quite interested in watching it myself, and I'm not really in that space, you know, for it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm interested, but okay, coding got there, I had, what do you do for a finisher?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I wonder if if somehow Sammy gets involved because they've been really playing up that Sammy Cody thing on and then then Cody's got a few coming out of the match and then, you know, Gunther can move on to whatever he's going to do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, what would maybe like a ref bump and Sammy comes down and

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe like Gunther's, Gunther's doing something like the way or SmackDown ended, I don't if you watch SmackDown.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But the way SmackDown ended was Gunther had attack Cody, had him in a sleeper, Sammy was right there and he just walked away.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He wouldn't help Cody.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it was basically like his official heel turn.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, he's been getting blueed for like a month.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So so I could see maybe Sammy getting involved and costing Cody the match or not stopping Gunther from doing something to cheat to win.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like one of those two things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, so we also have, I mean, I think.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It'd be interesting if they didn't have real in this match, like I think she's got a win, yeah, because I think this calling for a lot of title change is all right, this has got to be her.

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[SPEAKER_01]: her year, or this has got to be her year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So she's got a retain, I think.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's too bad because Jade has been like, maybe the best that she's been since she came to WWE last couple months, I thought.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, just, I think with that crew around her and just the way she's carrying herself, not necessarily the in-ring.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The in-ring is what the in-ring is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, she's never gonna be a great wrestler, but she's, I think she understands her role and she's over the way she should be to that audience.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Becky Lynch and Soul Rooka, I think Soul Rooka desperately needs a win in this match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I see we're calling for so many title changes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to go against the grain and say somehow Becky retains.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe something happens with Jessica Carr.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Weird how Jessica gets assigned to all her matches.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then we have Obafimium Brock Leser.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Brock Leser is the bedding favorite as of right now, but that the odds are close.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're not.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I like the Roman men.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think go either way there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think no matter what happens, we're going to third match anyway, so I guess it just.

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[SPEAKER_00]: it'll be quick and it'll be fun and the crowd will go nuts and whatever happens happens.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm I'm surprised are doing this, but I guess maybe they did that show is actual sold out you know or I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The crack will be a rock thing is confusing as all hell by the way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They did not.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, they're anything up on raw.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, I know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's basically like I get it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I know what it is like the young and maybe they're having a hard time telling the story lying for whatever reason, but I believe the story is Brock retired he quit he did retire and now he's not retiring because he wants to match with Gunther and he said he's still retired in his promo.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so he's just coming back with one match and he's gone again.

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[SPEAKER_01]: is essentially what we're supposed to believe.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Who knows?

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's the problem is I have no idea what this is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So then it's like, it's just like MMA.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, like, Ronda, you know, Ronda's retired.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She fought Gina, but she's still retired, you know?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that maybe that's what they're trying to do, but they don't really know how to tell that story.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But she didn't, Ronda didn't come out and say, hey, I'm facing Gina, by the way, I'm still retired, but I'm going to face her, which is what Brock said.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so then.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I am like on paper.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This show looks amazing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, paper.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I'm I'm at the point with WWE where I am a little guarded.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not going to get my hopes up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm with the amount of talent on this show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm 100% sure it's not going to be bad.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It'll

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[SPEAKER_01]: But am I going to think this was better than I thought it was going to be or am I going to end up thinking like it was about as good as WWE paper views have been of late like that's I think that's my problem with going into this show is I want to see a home run because of the the amount of talent that's on this thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They don't seem to want to do home run shows they seem to like to hit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, they like to hit seeing eye singles on these shows, I'm looking for I think they need I think they need a big show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think they need to own the space of Great show, you know, media or whatever for the weekend.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe that's maybe that's the goal.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe that's why they're putting all these matches.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That looks so good on paper.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe they just want to blow everyone on the water.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe and I

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think this is the case.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I really, I really don't think they're even paying all that much attention to what you're doing, but if they are maybe they're looking at how positively that show is received and saying let's try to put on a show that gets people saying how good our show is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is the even though I don't think is a mask versus mask this weekend too?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, triple it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, on Saturday.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's Saturday and Sunday.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So big weekend in WWE.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That I mean, honestly, that match might be better than anything on this show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, like in terms of crowd heat for sure, but maybe even in the match itself.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Coding Gunther, I think, is probably the best bet to have like a great match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, fat too in Roman will, that may get the best star rating, but I, you know, I, for my taste, probably coding them there with me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm looking most forward to Roman and Jacob, I think, though.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, if I thought Oberfemi was 100% winning this match again, I think I'd probably, like, look a lot more, again, I'm a little guarded with the stubby to be booking right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to get like, do excited about them to try to make the biggest star humanly possible.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So there's six matches, two on the pre show, four on, it's not really pre show, but I don't really see five right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, okay, well that seems low.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe they'll have something.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they should add at least one more match, I think.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, so we'll be back next week and we'll give our thoughts about what happened on a match of mass versus mask and no dad housing on the show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You tell me I didn't watch the Macdown.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What did they do with them so they kept doing all these little things throughout the show where they were having the power kept going out briefly and then could Adam or Nick all this was trying to figure out what's going on and then eventually they narrowed it down to this room and of course Dan Housens in the room.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Trying to build a thing and then and then pierces like or I'll just like you can't do this and then he turns over and out and down Is gone and then he sees this this big body on a bed It's looked about the size of Baron Corbin and And he and he's he's about to lift up the hood the sheet to see who it is and downhouses like don't

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's pretty good, Dan hasn't it and so we didn't get to see, and then the power went out again.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, it's yeah, it's it was it was stupid, but maybe we're maybe they'll do the reveal there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's something that they did.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and then we have Ross going to be early Monday because of the yeah, and back down.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think they're in Spain on Friday is going to be early too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because it doesn't mean anything for me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm still going to see it at the same time think they set up a Nathan Fraser match because they were talking with something about oh, I'm going to fight you in your hometown next week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Can't remember who it was.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, so there's that'll, that'll be fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like are not, not me, phrase, but you can actually.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, whoever, I think he's got a big match on, on SmackDown.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that'll be fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The last time they were there, they did Gunther and him, and that was great match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, oh, I remember that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just hope that Netflix doesn't screw around with the commercials, all of a sudden, just because we're doing it in our national shows again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not, I'm not going to watch if they do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm skipping

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you've mess with the commercials, I'm just not flat out watching these shows.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's the best thing about watching, you know, being so far behind is that I click on the show and I look up and raw one hour 37 minutes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Awesome.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Conversely gone already.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then you even have a thing of like skip recap.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Skip by skip promo.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, like yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's it's cool the way they do it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, that is it from here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So Paul is going to be up tomorrow night talking.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, you died of my with Jeff will get your thoughts, your deeper thoughts and Jeff thought.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no idea what Jeff thought about that paper.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Similar to mine, it sounds like, but I haven't really talked to me in depth about it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, we, I think we're going to end up talking a lot about the same stampede.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't, I mean, I think it's Jericho and Ricochet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's that they, they put, I have no idea.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was on the show for win.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but not a whole lot because as having almost as always, they don't have a lot of stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Kevin, all right, pretty much will be fun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that'll be good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we'll see.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's his time to shine man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They said, hey, you're going to be one of the guys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's good for his reps.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think he's need to get those promo reps up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He needs to, you know, dial in that character and figure out what he's going to be because he's going to, I think it's going to be good for him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I also don't think it's going to click right away.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're going to have to be pay and they are.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Tony is in for the long haul because he's got something there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, all right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That is it for here for Paul.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I am double G. We will see you when we see you peace out.