Gabe Kidd Buries Shota Umino, Tiger Mask Retires: G1 Climax Preview | Speaking of Strong Style

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[SPEAKER_00]: The G1 climax tournament begins Saturday in Chicago.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Jeremy and I will be there in person.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we're going to report back on the opening show here next week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But this week, we're previewing the biggest tour of the year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Plus looking back at an eventful paracorca in Hall shows.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Title matches, ego trips, and retirements are all on the menu today.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So with Jeremy Feinstein, I'm Stephen Conway.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is Speaking of Strong Style.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Welcome everyone to Speaking of Strong Style.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Jeremy, we had a couple of core can shows to watch, but otherwise we have been gearing up for the G1 climax tournament.

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[SPEAKER_00]: How has your week been?

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[SPEAKER_00]: How have you been feeling?

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[SPEAKER_00]: What have you been up to?

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[SPEAKER_01]: If they've been good, man, uh, getting ready to get on a plane tomorrow.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's been doing a lot of stuff this morning, actually getting, getting all the ducks in a row, you know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, uh, had to go to Target, get a couple of things, you know, make sure the wife was all set up for what she needed, you know, like, I'm going away.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So what stuff I got to do, you know, all that stuff, the, uh, the honey do list that to do with had to get to done before I get out of here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so, uh,

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[SPEAKER_01]: uh, this was a rush to get to the show here today and put this all together.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And uh, I'm here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm ready.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I talked about some other shows about the G1 up to this point, uh, including top rope nation, uh, check out that one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But it was basically to get ready to talk about this with you, Steven.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You seem like you're ready to play this with series of plenty.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And here, me, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just here for the ride on

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I've been looking over the schedule and looking at the stuff I usually look at when I'm going over a new Japan tournament the first day and the final day tends to say a lot about who will and I mean final day of block action will say a lot about how the results will probably go they subverted some of those expectations with super juniors this year so I am.

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[SPEAKER_00]: taking all of that into account too and it is a fairly wide open field.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like there is a block that is

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[SPEAKER_00]: five or six deep as far as possibilities go and another one that's like two of these three guys are going through and none of the others even have a chance.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we're going to talk about all that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it was useful, but then this past year they went into super juniors with almost the entire field eligible to go into the playoffs on the final day.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's how they booked that thing so 50, 50.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So if they do that at the G1, then there are a lot of different ways to go, but I still

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[SPEAKER_00]: pretty narrow and another one, much more wide open.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, I keep going over it, but we're going to see here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm in a tournament mode.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I went to my first ever World Cup match last Friday.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just before I just after the last show, I saw Egypt and Australia and Dallas and had a wonderful experience there at the World Cup.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't have ever heard anything about it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely amazing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we, you know, we drove up there very, very early.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and had a breakfast beer at a hotel lobby there with some of the Australians, and they were all very friendly, and then we ended up in a section of mostly Egyptian section with the fans of Egypt.

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[SPEAKER_00]: As a Liverpool sort of like all of them, or was that out?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Did you walk like all of them?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, we we were up there that thank how they didn't play that song good Lord.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They played land down under from men at work for the Australians, but Well, it played something more traditional for the Egyptians who were singing along and happy I was so worried that some knucklehead was gonna play the Bengals song right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can get both had the same sense of humor which they do not they do?

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[SPEAKER_00]: not, but I'll say this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The Egyptians were fantastic.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The whole time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They were an absolute blast.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And everybody was friendly both before and after the game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The Egyptian fans and the Australian fans were very friendly to one another.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They were very friendly to neutrals like us.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it was a brilliant experience.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I, of course, am a Liverpool supporter.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's my Premier League team.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So seeing Mohammed Salah, who just left Liverpool after one of the great runs in team history there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There are other certainly, but Mo had one of the better runs one every trophy there is to win in England with

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[SPEAKER_00]: with Liverpool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I was thrilled to see Mo and he hit a penalty kick at the end.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Went all the way to penalties, Jeremy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I went through the one-one game and then extra time and then penalties, the tension was incredible.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The penalty shootout was on our end of the pitch.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I got a great view of the penalty shootout and just an amazing time, definitely a bucket list item and everyone was great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's really fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was getting hugged by Egyptian fans,

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not sure what they were thanking me for other than I guess not Boeing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was fairly neutral through the game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was happy that they won because I was cheering for Salah, but I was getting hugged by all, and they were just so giddy that they won the thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And of course, they just lost in the next round.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But to win that round at 32 match was the first time they'd ever want to knock out game with the World Cup, so they were over the moon.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And just a great time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Dallas really, great experience.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm really glad I did it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I may legitimately be one of the only people that have like a negative interest in the world cup.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we'll go into it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Who's left?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like we're in a field of eight now?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, we, yeah, today is the first, in fact, when I sat down Jeremy with again, Jeremy and I try not to talk too much before the show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We do a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If not like we don't like each other, it's just it's just better that way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We want to keep it fresh.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, and we don't want to over-rehears points and things like that, and we also like to get each other's honest reactions.

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[SPEAKER_00]: For instance, we don't know each other's picks yet for this tournament.

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[SPEAKER_00]: When I sat down, it was nil nil in this quarter final game between France and Morocco and just in the last handful of minutes, France is court twice.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they looks like they will be going through barring a Moroccan miracle coming here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, that's going on now quarter finals have begun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And one of the games, Dougon, it will be during

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[SPEAKER_00]: The G1 show in Chicago.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I will have your straight up going to have the phone next to you aren't you with the match with the game on the pitch and then you watch in the match on the right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: 100%.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm also going to be watching England and Norway probably while I'm hanging out with the afternoon too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So there are two games on Saturday.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll be doing that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Did I ever tell you the story of, uh,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Garrett, his 50th birthday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He had, he had some people for, first day, barbecue, soon, whatever backyard kind of shindings.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I, I think of this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and I take him over there and we were hanging out for a while about 15 minutes into him being there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He pulls up his phone.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He starts turning on that pro like that wrestling thing that they shot off his doing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're doing a pro wrestling classic thing where you've got like Gable Steve's in and they're doing like they're doing wrestling and you have to be kind of in like a That was a thing Hulk Hogan was stumping for but as just before he passed away right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yes could they have to watch it while we're at this birthday party and I've just like so Who's winning?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Who's winning?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Don't I didn't know if he had click taken out into the way?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, thank you

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then I'm like, well, we're going to get back to our day.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Nick Greaves is here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Good to see you Nick.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He says it is my favorite part of the summer staying inside every day to watch wrestling for a month.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know I kind of feel that way with the world cup, or I've just been camped out, just enjoying that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it's over a hundred degrees here almost every day, at least he didn't exercise and Austin.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's not a bad time to be inside in the AC.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's the other thing I was relieved that Inc.

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[SPEAKER_00]: readably hot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: In Dallas that day, thankfully, was at AT&T standing in the Cowboys home field, and the game was at least in the air conditioning, if not the surrounding area.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was, you know, I was writing down or like going through like every person and what they're order of matchup, we're going to be.

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[SPEAKER_01]: When I was looking at the date of the G1 this year, they really

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[SPEAKER_01]: throughout the whole thing they're it doesn't seem like they're a grip of date course you're like you have to watch five days and a row or anything like that there's there's like two or three spots here there but it's totally manageable with that schedule over the course literally a month so we have the one day on Saturday and then we hit the 18th

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they go to like the 15th and block play.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, it's not as dense as it's been another years.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, not at all.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's probably good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And USVA guys here, glad to see you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He says, I'm going to be on the phone a lot during the G1.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm still stuck doing my contract work for FIFA.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so they're graciously letting me go to Chicago.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I'm glad they're letting you go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It'll be fun to be there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It'll be an interesting show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll look at that lineup match by match, because we're going to preview both that show and the tournament as a whole.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That dude at the bottom is probably so freaking busy right now when he sleeps I don't know when he sleeps right like two phone three phones maybe and different people talking different topics but getting the job done well done.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So let's get to what we saw this past week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now there were two Coracle and Hall shows.

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[SPEAKER_00]: One in particular, the first one, had some consequence for the stories that we'll be playing out in the G1 climax.

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[SPEAKER_00]: One match in particular.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But we're certainly going to be revisiting that match as we go through the tournament.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and I had another title match involved.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There were the last G1 qualifiers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was a pretty big show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then the second night Tiger Masks retirement.

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[SPEAKER_00]: which was a big show in a very different way, not so much to do with G1 at all, but nevertheless significant and an interesting ceremony at the end.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the comparison and contrast between what we saw at Fantastica, Mania and Mexico City and what we saw in cortical and hall really fascinated me as I was watching.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it just reminds me that retirements in Mexico are treated more as a fiesta.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a party.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's it's a happy occasion.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's streamers being set off.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's music.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The whole cast comes down to the ring and they're hugging Tiger Mask and shaking his hand.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The core can haul thing feels like a funeral.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you look at the end of a definition like you've arrived at you've arrived at your definition, it's like, all right, time to take a bite.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's like everybody kind of comes in literally gives him flowers and just says, we're sorry for your loss.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's really, well, we're looking at with the court with the Japanese retirement.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And since it's not, it's not a whole look at all the wonderful stuff you did.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just like, oh, you're, you're dead to us now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Not like, not like we'll never talk to you again, but it was very summer.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It just had a whole, to me, it just had a very somber feeling, maybe compared to the arena Mexico party, anything wood.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was worried about that, but it came true, like that whole ceremony, and we'll talk about who is there and who, and who greeted Tiger Master, there were a lot of congratulations.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Chris was saying there were a lot of smiles and there were, but it's still kind of felt like, oh, this guy's dying, he's really got out of the vibe I got from it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've got the Hiroshi Kahnahashi retirement and they, and there was joy with that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like there was like joyfulness and like appreciation for the career and as they like, this bill like a business man like, you know, like, well done sir, a career in your business,

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[SPEAKER_01]: wish you well, give up, you know, like, say, yeah, literally.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Say it or not.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, exactly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's funny too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: My, uh,

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was, Jayce, my ex-inlawless, we're going back away.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Ex-inlawless had a Japanese foreign exchange student who loved America and ended up staying here longer than originally intended, really like, right, like, eventually moved back to Tokyo.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But she got married, she wanted to get married in the United States, and they just sent, you know, why?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And her fiance and the, the groomsman all flew over from Japan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: His family came over.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And had the ceremony in the United States, and they said, well, why do you why do you want to get married in the United States?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Just because it's a party in America, a wedding reception is a party.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And in Japan, it's almost more according to her, according to her, maybe things have changed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's been about 20 years, 20 some years now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But you said, in Japan, it's almost more about the bride's father's business associates than it is about the couple.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's very.

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[SPEAKER_00]: very formal and very business oriented.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It is not, it is not a party.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And over here, we're going to have a drink up and we're going to have a music and dancing and we're going to eat cake.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And as you said, that would be a great adventure completely different.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and so it's just the cultural differences I think we're interesting to see for Tiger Mass from from one to the other.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that is something I noticed this past week too is I go through, I'm on my CMLL kit because I have the land is level on YouTube now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm watching everything and I'm in my Luchelie Breira.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I am.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I have not been watching much wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I still have not gone back into WWE.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So five night of champion.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Go whatever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't watch.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't watch Monday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I kind of figured punk was coming back to win the title.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And just like it was there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I heard it was a really good match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'll get to it eventually.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No urgency whatsoever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I did watch time to my.

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[SPEAKER_01]: really, really action packed show pretty good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Kenny Omega won the title in a really great match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's a mjf.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I really like that match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but both US companies switched very important championships over the past.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was in like 48 hours of each other pretty well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then we had these new Japan shows that yeah, it comes sequential.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But it also still felt like it was a taster for for Saturday.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Certainly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, no.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So let's talk about that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: By the way, both cork and horses, we won't spend much time on attendance except to say it's terrific for both nights.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They filled the building, both nights.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And when you look at the lineup, two G1 qualifiers, two title matches, the first night should have filled that ended it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then the Japanese lover retirement.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So they, you know, the Tiger Mass certainly filled it up as well for his so no concerns about attendance.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We have concerns about this weekend, but we'll see how it turns out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But here we go, it was a very house showy beginning to the show on, I guess that would have been Monday, right, but the

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[SPEAKER_00]: There was a few multi-person tags early in the thing Aaron Wolf and Bolton and Godo and Matsumoto defeated unbound company when Wolf had a kamikaze on the guy that wasn't bad.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There was an eight-man tag between Desparado, Yasada Taichi, and a way more of the house structure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was okay Taichi tried, so did Yasada, nobody else really did much in the match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There was a House of Torture Match against Jado, Tiger Mask, Geto, and Taijiishimori, and folks Taijiishimori can only do so much.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So then we got to the play in matches.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let me add to the play and match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So this is to get into the B block of the G1 climax tournament.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we had Ujuro Takahashi against Oscar.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And this was Lousy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was so bad.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Again, Ujuro is slow.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Ujuro is lazy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: uh... he wasn't that good to begin with and he has only gone down hill from there and asker couldn't pull this one out of the fire it was bad he sold his knee most of it just to give you drove something resembling hope and of course his usual house torture crap we had like i've been a beat him in like nineteen second and he was going for it and the usual flipped out in a choke and gave him a chop block to the back of the knee and off to the races we were

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[SPEAKER_00]: What I liked about it is this tiny little bit of it, tiny little bit of it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There have been a ref bump.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And all the house torture stuff came in.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And low and behold, a baby face helped.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I came out and helped to stay a team partner.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they even hit the knockout to the KLB, the knockout bomb on the on U-DRO.

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[SPEAKER_00]: When the referee was bumped and U-DRO had run off all the rest of House of torture, at least knocked him around enough.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They couldn't interfere anymore, hit the finisher through the ref back and the ring got the pin so fire with fire and it's always nice to see a baby face for once showing a little bit of spine and doing so fighting fire with fire and it always gets over I don't know why they don't do it more often Jeremy can't do it every time or the bad guys were never when I understand that but it gets over when they do it people like it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The best of the best of house of torture and the worst of the worst of the torture all in one, you know, like with when you have baby faces that can overcome it, the whole scheme works fine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so that's all kind of paid off in that aspect.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But you know, as watching this match, and I got this sinking feeling that we're just

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to feel a lot of matches like this in the G1 with Oscar, you know, like somehow he is going to not be able to be dominant against this person and beat them up in a one on one match and somehow some way there is going to be like a method introduced in order to either level playing field or to get the dynamic so more of a one on one match with some kind of handicapped for Oscar and

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[SPEAKER_01]: I hope that's not the plan for like the whole thing because I think you could keep it more us learning.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can do more than just that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But you've not going to be the focus of the G1.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm just I'm curious of just how much of these kind of matches we're going to have with Oscar Irrigardless of it being the House of Culture.

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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, fair enough.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, be interesting to see how they do work Oscar throughout that tournament.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I don't know if this is the hand.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think this is as much to cover up for you, Joe's glaring deficiencies as it is anything else.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So they've got to have nine different matches with nine different people with different finishes and I'm just yeah, I'm wondering how many people are going to decide, you know, I'll just work around your size and it just becomes it size.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Here, I'll just beat up your knee for the whole time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right, or elbow, or, yeah, the other play in match was for Block A.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And this was to route out the field.

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[SPEAKER_00]: At this point, we, after this match, we had all 20 participants.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We have Rio, Rio, Rio, Rio, Rio, and Elfantazmo.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And this one just went under 10 minutes as well, 936.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was fine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was fine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, we will one with the grip.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Phantasmo seems to be a bit resigned to the idea.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's just not part of the New Japan mix anymore.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know whether that's by his choice or New Japan's choice.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I have no insight information.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But his last few matches have not been his best work in Japan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We've seen Phantasmo for years.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We know what he can do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It has been below that standard for a while.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it just seems like he's a little bit mentally checked out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He kissed the Lion Mark afterwards, which means something, you know, a lot of people do that now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I think they do it because they think they're supposed to, more than they feel like they should or want to, maybe they just feel like they should.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, this did feel like a bit of a fair, well at least,

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[SPEAKER_00]: The idea of the fantastic was not going to be part of the new Japan story hardcore going forward.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's out of the he is out of the G1 climax real.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, what is in and the match was all right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: a little bit of a show voting, but I think it was more designed to like try and get real hey, are we a over?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think he, well Brad is here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're going to see you, Brad.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He has a question.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He says that Jeremy's about to address.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He says, do you think ELP ends up in an American company or is he swirving and going heal?

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[SPEAKER_01]: If I had to get, I think ELP is working one day.

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[SPEAKER_00]: perhaps yeah and like I was talking about too he just had so much more energy and he seemed so much more into his CMLL run.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It just feels like he's kind of done with New Japan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think he hasn't been wrestling like he has the fire for it anymore.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so imagine you've got a guy and you're not emphasizing him

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[SPEAKER_01]: at a high level, but you're paying him more and more, because you're working, you're working for you every year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so, you should give me a little bit more money this year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they're like, how about we give you this amount of money and give you this amount of date, because you're not in our plans to really be elevated any higher than you are.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And when you're at an impasse like that, no matter how much you love the company,

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[SPEAKER_01]: you still need to provide for yourself and have a career and you're there for the company if you need, but you still have to be there for yourselves and make yourself available and if those data are not there for you in New Japan.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're going to have to go somewhere else where you're appreciate being Mexico be at AEW, you know, I just can't help you in the conglomeration.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No joke.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can see an angle where he ends up with like the dog somehow some way, you know, even though the angle was they were opposed with each other in New Japan, you know, they've got a bang bang gang and a

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[SPEAKER_01]: like the dogs you're going on where you have two or three guys on one kind and you got five on the other, so either you need to take one guy from one side or you need to get two guys from somewhere else.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So these are all things that in the future, but that way more plans than I think New Japan has for ELP, so here we are.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Can I always make money being the 38th member of the

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You actually can.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean 37 guys are making money as members of the chaos fair.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, even though way more attention than if they weren't a member of the chaos family, I'll tell you that much.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, I'm sure they have good catering to you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's see what else, a couple of other hello's here, Fernando Zayas is here, Maria Gracie, L.S.I.S.

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[SPEAKER_00]: is here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Also, you guys, glad you guys are with us.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so at that point, we've got our field.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So thank goodness you, Joe's not in there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We don't have to watch his matches.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We already have two heavy waste from house of torture that are going to be dragging the quality, the tournament down in Renner, Rita, and Sonata.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's really no surprise is on the plate.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, right, pretty much everyone that you thought should be in this tournament.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Unfortunately, Taiichi, that kind of thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're all in there, no shots, no, no, whatever, I'm fine with this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The next match is the IWGP Global Heavyweight title match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And this was Gabe Kid versus Hiroshi Tanahashi.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, rumor is, for eight minutes and 48 seconds to show to Umano was in the match, you wouldn't know that for watching it or from hearing about it afterwards, because our esteemed well-fed president is making sure that this is 100% about Hiroshi Tanahashi, even after his retirement.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And this was

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[SPEAKER_00]: a match that was geared toward him at ringside Gabe Kid targeted most of his offense right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I said the match wasn't long.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And in the end, it was just show to Umino getting humiliated by Gabe Kid as Gabe Kid taunted Hiroshi Tanaashi.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He pinned show to Umino after what giving him a pile of driver on the outside and a couple of finishes in there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Umino just got crushed

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[SPEAKER_00]: So the Gabe kid can confront Hiroshi Tanahashi.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's what this was about and what New Japan is still about.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so look, I'm not going to repeat the text that I said to Jeremy after the speech was over.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But because my mom, you ask me, because my mom listens.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But the temperature and I burned my finger.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, Brandon says that Tana isn't wrestling again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So what's the payoff of this feud with Gabe?

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's already beaten, showed it in extended squash, and this is so weird.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I do too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's that we haven't seen the last of Hiroshi Tata Hashie.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's not true.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's not my theory, that's my theory, it's my theory, he cannot handle this not being about him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Can't handle it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think this is,

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[SPEAKER_01]: one of the most hand-dested terrible ways that they could have tried to convey the new Japan need to new hero, the Hiroshi Tanahashi can't be that guy anymore.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They waited on so thick that Gabe Kid could just have his way with anybody on the roster and humiliate them and make the story about Daddy Tanahashi, what are you going to do about it?

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[SPEAKER_01]: That I was almost like,

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[SPEAKER_01]: if you have completely lost the plot, we'll show to Omenel.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Remember, he just won the title at Domingon.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He did not even defend this title once against in front of a Japanese crowd.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now anyway, and it's like the little thing where he won the title and then got squashed like right afterwards.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm I baffled if the tear down before you build them back up again.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I have 100% consent.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I know we're running back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: in that spot with some minor plot variances, but we're going to get to the exact same conclusion, which is showed to Umno be Gabe Kid at some point and they fight for that title.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe drill him alone, he's in there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe feel like he should be, but at some point they're going to run it back for that title, and Gabe Kid's going to lose that title to either drill or shoot up and then show to at some point some way is going to

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[SPEAKER_01]: She roves during his way back to winning that global title even though he had just won it and then he just lost it Just like every other fucking loser baby face that we have a new judge man They cannot seem to win a god damn match and follow up with winning another god damn match to look at all Dominic

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[SPEAKER_01]: What the hell?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Why is Hiroshi Tanahashi still the big baby faith of the promotion?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Why is Game Kid focusing on Hiroshi Tanahashi at Core Kid and why is Game Kid focusing on Hiroshi Tanahashi as the G1 press conference?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hiroshi Tanahashi is going to end the G1

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, but I think he's going to wrestle game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Can I wrestle on this?

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I, you know what?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I hope you have fun it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I hope you have fun it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I hope you have fun it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, which is a Rochitana Hotchie person game kit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think that's going to happen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But my god, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, they can't throw Rochitana Hotchie back out and choke you to them after what they did last year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sure I can.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sure they can, like, they just like him, I do not think I do not think I've got a good idea.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, it's not a good idea.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a terrible idea.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They've had nothing but terrible ideas from year to half, but I think that's what they're going to do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think John I can keep a sense of.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think I think Shota and the beating game kid in the middle of the G1.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think they run back that match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Draw up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We've got to figure out who drove a beep to kind of figure into that equation, but he's clearly still in the picture otherwise he wouldn't be in that practice the other two guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yep, so there there's a whole orbit there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think this is going all the way to wrestle kingdom like somehow some way with these guys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think Gabe is just coming back and forth is long but.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But Shota.

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[SPEAKER_01]: history of the global title now and being worthy of the global title because somehow some way they haven't even managed to make him worthy of that title yet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a great idea.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's what you just said is true.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a terrible idea.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But here's what ought to be.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We've done this now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's no going back in erasing that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he has to beat Gabe in the tournament.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and then there needs to be another match afterwards for the Global Title where Shota wins a back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That should be what it is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Then after he does that, if they can get him, if he'll do it, then it should be Shota and Moxley, where he finally overcomes the death riders at Wrestle Kingdom.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That is how you can make Shota into something here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, I'm not saying they're going to do that because they screw stuff like this all the time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's also one other thing I want to address because I've been hearing it in a bunch of places there are other podcasts that will drone on ceaselessly about this point.

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[SPEAKER_00]: For hours and I just want to address it here this whole idea that suffering builds character in a wrestler stay with me on this for a moment.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're hearing a lot of that crap that this is how new Japan makes their stars by having them suffer.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They have made wrestlers suffer in the past, okay?

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I went back and looked folks, I went back and looked.

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[SPEAKER_00]: With one exception in the 54 years of New Japan pro wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The people they've made suffer, they've done it before.

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[SPEAKER_00]: but it's with the exception of every other guy that has ever drawn money.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Look at the list of people who have drawn money.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There is one in 54 years that has gone through the fail fail fail fail fail thing and come out as a money drawing star.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And even that hasn't asked for a sc on it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm not gonna go over every single one, but let's go over a few highlights right here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But Antonio Anoki is a whole different thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He was a monster star before it even formed.

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[SPEAKER_01]: New Japan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He was a big hero on national television before.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You wouldn't expect him to fail over and over again.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He had to be a guy to carry the freight.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The other stars from that area only lost to each other.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like the main event guys, the Tonyanobory, all those guys, they only lost to each other.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He made Tetsumi Fujinaami.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Remember, Fujinaami was the young lion kind of.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They didn't have the formal young lion system.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But once Tetsumi Fujinaami went off to America, came back,

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[SPEAKER_00]: He did not fail over and over again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Tiger mask, good lord, revolutionized pro wrestling, came right out and did not lose much at all.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's move on to Kangokamura and all of those guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They had some losses early in their career, but once they got pushed, they were stars.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They only lost other major stars.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's move forward to the three Musketeers, Chono Hashimoto Muto.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, they took losses very, very early in their career once they were pushed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They only really ever lost to each other.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And sometimes some guests that would come in, like the foreigners that would have to get one up on them, so that they could come back and beat those people, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hashimoto, Chono, Muto, they did not fail over and over again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Jusin Lager, my god, he debuted at the Tokyo Dome, was a star immediately.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Shinsuke Nakamura, youngest world champion in history.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That does not indicate that he failed over and over again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Take a look at Hiroshi Tanahashi.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Did not fail over and over again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because Ushiro Kata comes back from excursion, moves right into the world title picture.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Certainly didn't fail over and over again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: 54 year, Hiromu Takahashi, right into the junior heavyweight ace picture.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So all that is true.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You'll hear people talk endlessly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they do talk endlessly about how this is all part of how New Japan makes stars, except for the money drawing stars, except for the ones that matter, except for the ones who sell tickets, who didn't lose, lose, lose, lose.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What is that freaking tell you?

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's one guy, one guy, Ted Sue United.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Failed more times than people thought.

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[SPEAKER_00]: should fail and ended up as a big star.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But you can almost make the case that Naito was kind of the triple H of his era and that he wasn't the really the top guy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He was the guy who worked with all the top guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Remember the lie that WWE tells you is a triple H is an all-time great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He wasn't.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He was.

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[SPEAKER_00]: a good wrestler, not a great wrestler, but he worked with Steve Austin.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He worked with the Undertaker.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He worked with the rock.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The guys who actually, he was the guy who worked with the guy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You could make a case that night to a worked with Tana Hashie, that night to a work with O'Covah, that night to a work with it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then quite frankly, once he was champion, it kind of fizzled on

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and Nick Graves mentioned, night Owen Brian Danielson, boy, did that cause you should say I'm going to be right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was just waiting to mention.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's happening to get over in spite of everything.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that has poisoned people's brains about what works in wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Correct.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_01]: legitimately the thing I was just going to say was just this is going to represent the torn down Daniel Bryan and they found out that the audience was going to will it to happen regardless of whatever they did?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And WWE believed that they had a amazing

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[SPEAKER_01]: successful like plan to do this when all they did was feed in light of failing every step of the way and

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[SPEAKER_00]: This whole bull crap thing that, oh, this is how they're going to make night, uh, show to Umino into a huge start.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, they are hurting Umino over and over again with this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it is wounding his chances of being what he could have been, which is a, I mean, sorry, not saying he can't do it, not saying they'll, that he'll never do it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He has to stop flipping failing, and it's already wasted years where this guy could have been a top draw, years plural, where this guy could have been a top draw, and remember, oh, we're a sugey, these guys are 30.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're not young talent.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not the next generation.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're too old to be the next generation.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, and then Brad mentions here, and I toast still in all time great over Triple H. No, I agree.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It looked, night toast is a much better work or than Triple H ever was, but Brad says night O is still in all time great over Triple H when it comes to charisma and talent, but that's a great comparison on how they were book.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, Triple H is one of the greatest politicians in the history of wrestling, which is not to be discounted and is not an easy field to be on top of.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But he has managed and he was a good wrestler, but I remember when Triple H went all these guys, much better wrestlers were in WWF in the WWE.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Triple H was a champion doing promos that we all hated the last 20 minutes at the beginning of raw his knee based offense everything he did had to do with his knee he wasn't that good to work or he wasn't that good a talker he just talked forever and then the whole thing was he worked with guys were better and he was.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And now he gets to write the history books so he gets to tell everybody how he was in all time great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so the winners get to write the history books.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's the way it is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Brad mentions, oh, you will continue to fail.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You, yeah, isn't anywhere near the top.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Suji failed a few times, but he's been pushed to the top guy without failing over and over.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You can even say that Suji, don't forget, the only significant match that he had this year before Dominion were beating Takeshta and then losing his two titles.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So they even made him look like a bit of a part.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Russell kingdom till now, especially with his endeavor to want to present himself more authentically, isn't doing him any favors.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, no.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And this isn't doing showed to Umano any favors at all.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So if he if he beats Gabe in the tournament, if he then wins back that global title,

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[SPEAKER_00]: If he then somehow gets to beat John Moxley, it restful Kingdom, then maybe you might have something if he actually just goes on a run of winning big matches.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But there's no indication they're gonna let him do that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And legitimately, it's kept ago that if you check up all those boxes that they won't follow up, they'd just be like, contemporary, if you're still just a guy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, exactly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the bread says, can we get better music for sushi?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Ooh, that new theme in doing it for me, either.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That new theme is not doing it for me either.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, all right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think we'd belly eight to nothing about this, Mashbook.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Ooh, boy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Poor soda.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What do you do?

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The main event of that show, by the way, was a junior heavyweight title match perfectly good match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yo, defeat a franchise, go a hero, not a classic.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was good, it wasn't great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm still working on taking yo seriously, but a cure is good, and it's a correct result if we are going to see if yo is a draw down the road.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The title is going to be locked away for a while.

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[SPEAKER_00]: the junior heavy weights are going to exit the stage a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so Mystico and Desperado with the junior tag champion champions, we won't be seeing anything regarding that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yo is going to be a minor player for a while and I don't mean that as a knock on yo, but this is what happens to the junior heavyweight champion during the G1 same ways.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The heavy weights tend to disappear during the O.S.

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[SPEAKER_00]: J. season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll find out more about you later, perfectly good match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm still working on it, but again, it was a good crowd.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not sure if you drew it or not, because there was a lot going on in this show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What going on in this show?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, you made a bet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They get the credit man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, and so far, when yo has been in the main event the last couple months, things have worked pretty well business wise.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, okay, the match didn't blow me away.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I felt like yo really beat the crap out of it myself especially that table shot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: be the main event in this match and I'm not necessarily sure a cure did anything different than what he normally does, but I felt like yo himself was especially trying to take it up the notch.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And a couple of comments here too, Brad says that I'm still surprised KOB one as much as they did as a tag team yet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, we talked about it every week here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We kept on waiting for the other shoot and dropped and somehow they didn't really mess it up with those two.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And in fact, I think if they follow through on another plan, which should work, which is not.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's about it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a mystery that they seem to have understood the KLB needed to win, win, win, win, win, win, but nobody else.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It is funny that way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Nick also mentions the junior title match won me over with all the false finishes, but 26 minutes was a bit much.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like you said, Jeremy, they wrestle like they were the main event, like we need to put out a main event level mash right here that we are the focus and Brad says the match was a perfectly crummy length four star match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's nice word.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I like that and Nick follows that up with I did appreciate that they kept the junior match as the main event after adding the global title match pretty late.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, me too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: that sends a little bit of a message about what they think of of yo and his title reign and the junior heavyweight title as a whole that it is positioned as the main event on a busy night on a busy night.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So

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[SPEAKER_00]: bad and other show a court can hold the following day and this one was again a little less uh... canonical as far as the story lines go we had another uh... oligabolden air and wolf team up and bad mentions can be get that as a tag team for world tag league i would love that wolf and and both and uh... we so we saw that again but yeah let's see

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[SPEAKER_00]: There were just a lot of multi-person tag team matches until we got to the big retirement exhibitions.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Anything about this undercard, do you want to add Jeremy?

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[SPEAKER_01]: no, not really.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was fine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was wrong with any of it, but it was a hell show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I won't go off there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're getting ready for next week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, like, I was actually kind of surprised.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She can go, came back for a couple of shows.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I figured you might we would get a stick around in the US until, uh, Chicago, but no, that was that that man's there for the business.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's been a busy week at Cork and Hall, I could always do this, but there was a start of night or in Cork, and Jeremy, and Natsupoy hit her Fariel gift, which is her kind of a spinning frog splash move on Ronnie Agani and Yagani kicked out of the Fariel gift.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was a big surprise.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She then hit a picture perfect maid in Japan on Yagani for the victory.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So there you go, a little nod from boy to her husband.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It really good made Japan, too, by the way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, they've been working out together though.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We had an exhibition match first.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, they were both exhibition matches worth.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They were dying for Tiger Mass Retirement.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it was against Dynamite Kid.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is Tom Billington.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is Dynamite Kid's nephew.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think I might have tripped instead of some last week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's nephew.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's Dynamite.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Tom Billington's nephew.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They brought him in.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's fine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He, you know, no one is his uncle.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Dynamite Kid was special.

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[SPEAKER_00]: one of the greats who had just absolutely one of the greats my personal first favorite wrestler is a dynamite kid and building to be fine and again these two really don't have any personal history together except that the original tiger mass, the torusayama, the tiger mass force trainer and dynamite kid were made history.

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[SPEAKER_00]: both in Japan and in the United States with their matches against one another.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So they just call back all the way to the very beginning.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They brought back Karotanaka as the ring announcer.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was the ring announcer Jeremy when I was trading tapes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Karotanaka was the New Japan ring announcer.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was cool to see him again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Come back for that just because he was somebody that he's where the coolest suits.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He had these really ordinate suits that he would wear for the big shows not not day in a day out for the Tokyo domes and the the symbol halls.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He was always dressed in something really cool looking.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And anyway, it was fun to see him back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The crowd was very polite big tiger chance, but this is a five minute exhibition.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Tiger mask can't do a whole lot right now physically anymore.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's beat up and so in the end it was just a five minute draw that that just kind of ended and then black tiger Rocky and Romero black tiger number four came out and attacked Tiger mask right away.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And knocked over Billington and started going to work on Tiger Mask.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They did a five-minute draw, but a little more in this one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Tiger Mask, it's all based with Sita, into the Tiger Seumplex off the top.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Black Tiger, hit a tombstone.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Piled driver just as the time limit expired and then he made the fatal mistake Jeremy of asking for five more minutes, but it only took Tiger Mask 18 seconds to hit the Tiger Suplex and pin black tiger for his final one, his final match ends in victory.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Rocky ended up taking the mask off handing it to him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Then we had the retirement ceremony.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There were pop stars.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There were baseball players.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Some of the Tokyo giants came over.

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[SPEAKER_00]: One of which said, I think the nicest thing that was said, the whole night, where they said that the Tokyo Giants have a match in the Tokyo Dome right now, but this is the most important match today.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And this is from a guy that played for the Giants saying, this is what I'm talking about.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a really nice thing to say to him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And there were other wrestlers, including Greg Sassuke.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was of course a key part of that mission okopro group that brought up Tiger Mass for and Saturosayama came out as well the original Tiger Mass and they walked up one more time again a little more funeral atmosphere than the celebratory one at Fantasca Mania but that was our farewell welcome to celebrate show of the celebration of light Stephen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: to take your mask, take your mask number four, now retired.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We also got news this past week Jeremy, the Tom Waki, Hanma has run into some more issues with his neck and he has, he's going to stop wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He says he wants to do one more match next year, which would be his 30th anniversary, but he has to be very, very careful.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I thought it was notable that he made this

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[SPEAKER_00]: Not will, hopes he can do a match next year for his 30th anniversary.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Whatever Newsy got, Jeremy, had to have been a little nerve-wracking because he is out of the ring.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He is done.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And considering he was almost paralyzed permanently and was temporarily paralyzed last time, he had issues.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it would be intelligent for everyone involved, not to mess with this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not going to lie.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I kind of felt like there were a writing on the wall in

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[SPEAKER_01]: you never got the Tomo Akihanga.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to fight to get my spot in the G1 this year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, definitely.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's been a routine the last couple of years.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He doesn't get in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We didn't even get sniff of that this year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, to wonder if he was starting to get the idea that I might not be able to do this at all.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so kind of sad, but he's walking.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You don't have to go into feet, you know, count, count your buttons, like that, that man has nine lives.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he gives you several of them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think he just played it safe on the last couple of lives

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and you know, that means like tens on whose body is destroyed, and you know, the last time we saw tens on, he kind of needed help getting up steps to end to the ring and all that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: A lot of these, a lot of the dads are buffing stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Their body has, you know, probably should have five years ago in tens on

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[SPEAKER_00]: You can debate about whether or not it was a good idea for him to come back, but it seemed like it was good for him to have to have come back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But a lot of these guys, they were really past the point of being able to wrestle a possible match anymore.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you watch Jado now and they really can't do much of anything.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's probably time to have the talk with a few of these guys, but you don't want to do it all at once.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm sure that Homo would much rather have not done it in the middle of Tiger Mass Retirement run, or in the middle of tensons retirement run.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I feel like tenson and Homo didn't have much say in the matter.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think some of the decisions were made for them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they were wired enough to go with it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: shall we take a look now the question is Jeremy do we want to just look at the overall tournament and then preview night one or do we want to preview night one and then just look at the the overall grids here in the A and B block which would you for why don't we talk about each record based off of their match on night one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So okay we'll do their match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll start at the bottom

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're determined to get a B-like, what our expectations are.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So let's start with the two that aren't there, because the Gabe Kid, these issues, and Drillam Maloney was supposed to be in Chicago.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's now going to take place in Hokkaido on the 18th and 19th, that weekend, that match will take place.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's actually taking place the 18th and Hokkaido.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So the first Japanese show, which is he didn't have any trouble getting a Japanese visa, American visa, a little trickier.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so Gabe Kid, Drill Maloney, to me, I think Gabe Kid will probably do all right just because they tend to treat guests well in these tournaments Jeremy, but his G1 is more about his feud with Shota Umano than it is about him winning the G1.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Correct.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean,

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[SPEAKER_01]: was last year that he didn't even finish the G1, but giving part of it, I think he wants to get a G1 done.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like he's just, he's not going to let this be the case where he's just not going to finish whenever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like he's got to get the mug off of that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so you're doing the heel thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he can't get the VFA.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can't work for EWC.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He might as well go all in on this angle and

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[SPEAKER_01]: My god, is you going all in on this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It always does.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It always does.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You can't say it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so do you write?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, but it's almost to a point or actually like, okay, we get it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And come up with the oversell and you've got so much energy to burn from just being on the shelf and all these things that

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[SPEAKER_00]: Gabe loves New Japan and he loves it so much that he is going 190% on this angle about hating New Japan because he's going to be the most heelish heel he can heal and that that is going to be his thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He loves New Japan.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I look at his schedule okay and here's the order of his map if you're ready.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Drilla which you got this match that seems to be global

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[SPEAKER_01]: Then you got Aaron Wolf, or the match is that Saber Jr. then Calabon Newman, then Henry, Shota, you and Ren.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That is gonna be an aggressive five and four scoring right there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, yeah, now I see your point there, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like that is here and there, there are guys higher on the pecking order, like Calabon Newman in the past, he would have lost, but he's beating Gabe, kid, you know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Gave kid if global tech like it that it that all right, so we have that drill maloney.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's going to be a middle of the path.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, nice reefs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, might have had some technical difficulties here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Jeremy, are you with me?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Are you here?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think I am.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We might have had a little hiccup there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I apologize.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, one more place cut up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Gave, Gave, Gave, Gave, Gave, Gave, Gave, Gave, Gave, Gave, Gave, Gave, Gave, Gave, Gave, Gave, Gave, Gave, Gave, Gave, Gave, Gave, Gave, Gave, Gave, Gave, Gave, Gave, Gave, Gave, Gave, Gave, Gave, Gave, Gave, Gave, Gave, Gave, Gave, Gave, Gave, Gave, Gave, Gave,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Henry, you, uh, newman, author, Aaron Wolfe, is that Sanford Junior, Renderita, and his last match is showed him enough?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So there's probably a lot going on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's gonna have a lot to do with what happens, coming out, coming out of it, because he's gonna be intertwined with showed in Gabe Kid.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They teased all that when Gabe attacks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Would it be wild if those two went to a draw in their last night?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It could actually happen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's see.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Nick Reeves says, I changed my mind with Calam on my bracket a few times.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to get to your comments on home a little bit later by the way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to circle back to those, but since we're talking G1, and Nick says, I'm still going back and forth on whether Calam will be both strong as most recent champion or if the injury will be a story.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's an interesting point.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he's going to be taken care of for the most part.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he's going to be in the mix all the way until at least the last day my thought on Newman.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So those are the two that will not be in Chicago.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So the rest of the way, Aaron Wolff and Henara is the first match of the G1 climax 36 this year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They are opening the show, Jeremy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: In Chicago, Aaron Wolff and Henara, I've got my theories of my hot takes on Aaron Wolff and Henara, of course, not going to be

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[SPEAKER_00]: a finalist in this one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But boy, do I have thoughts about Aaron Wolfe?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So do you want to start and then go to me?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Aaron Wolfe hand down is the most curious and interesting contestant in this entire G1.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He can either win the whole thing and he'd been a ranger for the company up to this point or he is just going to be a guy in the

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm kind of leaning towards he's going to be a major player that's turning it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is my thought on Aaron Wolf.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Again, I talk about how a lot of times you can look at the matches on the last day of block play and see who might be involved because they like to do that whole win-and-end stuff or essentially this match is for all the marbles, all that kind of stuff, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Look at who Aaron Wolfe's opponent is on the final night of the time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's Zach Saber Jr. Zach is always a factor in a tournament.

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[SPEAKER_00]: New Japan has gone out of its way forever to say that Zach is always a major factor in the tournament, whether it's the cup, whether it's the G1, the last day, it's Aaron Wolfe and Zach Saber Jr.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Here's the other thought on Aaron Wolfe, before I get to all that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: New Japan is owned now officially.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's all been transferred over.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Remember no longer a bushy road company owned by TV, a Sahi and Cyborage it now, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: TV network partially owns it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They have done two television specials over the last year, one for restyl kingdom, one for Dominion.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What are the two common denominators of those two national television broadcasts, title victories for two men?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yoda Sergei and Aaron Wolf and Aaron Wolf.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think there's a decent chance Aaron Wolf wins the G1 Climax.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think you're right, and I think as much as much as it seems like the Mark play of you, Louis Murrah, there's a lot on the plate here for the Asahi, a television network now owns the company and broadcasts.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We don't know if they're going to broadcast Russell kingdom or not, but they got a good rating off of the last time from what I've heard I don't pretend to be an expert on Japanese television ratings.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What's good and what isn't, but apparently it did a decent number.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what Dominion did, but if they're going with that wouldn't it make sense to kind of make the two guys who were the winners on the last two TV specials finally square off.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It from that kind of matchmaking standpoint, if this is how you venture, really.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like this hand is very simple stuff and Wolf again is a mainstream name in Japan.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've done nothing but call this booking regressive and this would be regressive booking in a lot of ways.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And there's nothing about you that has convinced you that he should be the guy,

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[SPEAKER_01]: there's a lot to argue with Aaron Wolfe and putting him in the opening match of the G1 is almost a statement like this guy is going to go to toe with an R8 and he's going to beat it and it's going to be one of those like holy fuck did you see that guy yeah I think that I think you're on to something here because I'm looking at that last day yeah and you'll

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[SPEAKER_01]: You've got Drilla and Shota.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You've got author and you, and you have Gabe and Renderita in addition to Aaron Wolf and Doc Saber Jr.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know about you, but that sounds like a made event for that night.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It does.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And to see the thing, like Shota Maloney, we've talked about, I think the same thing for Shota that I think for Gabe is that the G1 isn't, his G1 isn't about him winning the tournament.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's about this feud with Gabe.

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[SPEAKER_00]: uh... the maloney same thing he's going to be intertwined with these guys oi mora and asker feels like that match that goes on right after the preview tags or the you know the tags for the other block where it's just kind of one of the

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I'm not even sure they get in.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, again, with my thing with a lot of people are picking you, you owe more and I understand because they're trying to manifest this idea that now is his push.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you look past over his past year, he was a non-factor.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He was a non-factor at WrestleCainman to the point that he was barely on the show at all and was completely ignored the parts that he was on there, the pop star that teamed with Ian Shoda was a bigger deal than they were.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They weren't much more than an entrance.

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[SPEAKER_00]: New Japan Cup, he was a guy in the tournament.

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[SPEAKER_00]: didn't win it, wasn't even, you know, that didn't win the tournament.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It hasn't even gotten a title shot over the last year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's mostly been in preview tags early in the show where he hasn't even been in the finish all that much.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just, now, you could have said the same thing about yo before the B.O.S.J., but a lot of people are picking you, you, you, you, you, you more and this, and that last night matching is Oscar.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That doesn't feel like a dramatic story arc for him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Newman and Henare has the whole idea of it's a United Empire Darby.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So there's a little bit of something there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Kid and Narita, that kind of feels like something where a house of torture might hose over kid and keep him out, you know, because Narita always has that thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He can win any mash because he might cheat to do it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But Wolf and Sabre feels like the main event there, doesn't it?

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[SPEAKER_00]: uh, depending on what has gone down in the story with kid over the course of the tournament.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm just saying anything about wolf placement of matches seem to be a statement.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If, if all the things go according to play, if he beat Zat Saber Junior and a emanating Zat Saber Junior from the G1, I say that Zat is junior.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There are a lot to end.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There are glimmers that Aaron Wolf might be that gap.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, there are moments that we've seen that he's shown that he's got whatever it is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm not necessarily discounting the idea that New Japan intentionally held back on him and tell the truth.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it's, it's interesting, isn't it, because his match with the Oshihashi was so shockingly better than anything he had done since the evil match, because he's not stuck in there with guys like Yudro and Ren.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, the, the, the lazy guys, or the hurt guys, whatever else, it was so much shockingly better.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the, the matches he's had,

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[SPEAKER_00]: If the cork and haul shows, I'm not saying do flips over, I'm gonna go out of your way to see him, but they are better.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think maybe they have been sandbagging a little bit on this, but, and you know, that New Japan and TV Sahi, and all that, they want Wolf to be a mega star because he's the biggest mainstream name on the entire roster, probably.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, as far as like being just being known to the general public in Japan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: because of the gold medal in the gold medal in judo, which is a big deal in Japan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So there's a lot of incentive for them to get him to the top.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And this would be an opportunity.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So let's get to some comments because the viewer says some interesting things there too, Brad mentions, I'm very intrigued by this match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Wolf has looked solid since being away from our structure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I wonder how Hinaria will do with him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hinaria is a pretty good worker.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And this is the kind of match that Hinaria shines in.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That kind of, we're gonna butt heads

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[SPEAKER_00]: lens of standing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Nick Reeves says, I expect Wolf to finish around eight points and spoil Jack, Zack, from advancing to the semi-finals on the final night.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Very, very possible.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Again, I I might be trying to manifest this myself, and but and you can't discount way more.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would accept for what happened with yo, where yo was essentially a non-factor all spring and then one the best

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[SPEAKER_00]: could be the spoiler to Wolf's run, also possible.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You always have to take Zack seriously in any tournament.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that could let him have a program with Zack and TMBK get more reps. Another very very well could be.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Brad says, I have to cash to beating Wolf in the semi final.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That I would love to see that match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Who then loses to Newman in the final in Chris Samp's bracket pick.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what Brad has.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Nick Raven says, I think you are making the New Japan Cup finals this

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[SPEAKER_00]: He didn't win it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that loss to Calam is his only singles loss since the last G1, maybe, but he had any of the matches.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, nothing of consequence.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But if you got to have matches to break that win off record, it doesn't matter.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You only had one loss.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I haven't had many matches.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And, for instance, I might have to redo some things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't realize I had Oscar losing every match.

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[UNKNOWN]: I

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't think he's going to go over.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think he's going to go over.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's the bond.

01:03:29.070 --> 01:03:30.231
[SPEAKER_00]: Don't threaten us with the good time.

01:03:30.331 --> 01:03:32.694
[SPEAKER_00]: He says, I will talk to you guys about all this over beers this weekend.

01:03:32.814 --> 01:03:33.615
[SPEAKER_00]: Very good, fun.

01:03:34.516 --> 01:03:35.257
[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, you know.

01:03:36.504 --> 01:03:43.126
[SPEAKER_00]: Part of the reason this is kind of intriguing or fun is that there are a lot of ways things could go there and we'll have a lot of different directions.

01:03:43.166 --> 01:03:45.886
[SPEAKER_00]: So okay, that's just our first G1 match, my God.

01:03:46.266 --> 01:03:47.206
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

01:03:47.687 --> 01:03:49.667
[SPEAKER_01]: You're not going to be an awesome guy in this match.

01:03:50.167 --> 01:03:51.987
[SPEAKER_01]: I know what the story is going to be either.

01:03:52.888 --> 01:04:02.970
[SPEAKER_01]: He's going to be threatening the entire time, but you're going to be, you're going to be kept thrown through this tournament, but he's a guy to put other guys over.

01:04:03.561 --> 01:04:07.362
[SPEAKER_00]: And there will be subtext to his final block match with Newman.

01:04:08.102 --> 01:04:22.566
[SPEAKER_00]: There will be some kind of subtext as you remember there is not everybody wants to kill Osprey right away in the United Empire the way Newman obviously does right and that they were the ones that kind of stopped him from hitting Osprey with the chair when Newman wanted to do it months ago.

01:04:22.926 --> 01:04:23.146
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

01:04:23.206 --> 01:04:24.006
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's not your over.

01:04:24.286 --> 01:04:25.166
[SPEAKER_01]: Come on to the bend in the knee.

01:04:25.667 --> 01:04:25.887
[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.

01:04:26.327 --> 01:04:26.687
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

01:04:26.827 --> 01:04:27.347
[SPEAKER_00]: Second match.

01:04:28.107 --> 01:04:30.048
[SPEAKER_00]: Shingo Takagi and Jake Lee.

01:04:30.088 --> 01:04:30.328
[SPEAKER_00]: Look.

01:04:31.588 --> 01:04:46.261
[SPEAKER_00]: I really am a fan of Shingo Takagi's work, but I have to come to terms with the fact that New Japan is not as into him as a top guy as I am, and so I think he's going to have great matches as always.

01:04:47.908 --> 01:04:50.510
[SPEAKER_00]: I just feel like, oh, he's going to be there.

01:04:50.570 --> 01:04:51.851
[SPEAKER_00]: It's going to be a shingo.

01:04:52.091 --> 01:04:53.052
[SPEAKER_01]: He's a sheep now.

01:04:53.692 --> 01:04:56.014
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yes, that's exactly where I was going with it.

01:04:56.034 --> 01:05:02.178
[SPEAKER_00]: He's a guy that has great matches, but in the end puts over the guys that go all the way.

01:05:03.012 --> 01:05:20.972
[SPEAKER_01]: He's going to have the bad ass matches that the guys who end up winning the tournament also have and then add to their catalog when they have other bad ass, just he's elevating the level of the tournament and he's going to do so by having a fantastic catalog.

01:05:21.052 --> 01:05:21.313
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean,

01:05:23.160 --> 01:05:25.984
[SPEAKER_01]: You've got Jake for right, don't think about it.

01:05:26.124 --> 01:05:27.766
[SPEAKER_01]: He's facing real here.

01:05:27.786 --> 01:05:28.347
[SPEAKER_01]: We went next.

01:05:28.787 --> 01:05:30.590
[SPEAKER_01]: Then bolt and all like then the Oto Fuji.

01:05:30.610 --> 01:05:35.196
[SPEAKER_01]: Then hurl to go to then Great O'Con, then to Kesha, then you don't like any spring was synonym.

01:05:35.436 --> 01:05:37.419
[SPEAKER_01]: These can be matches in the middle of there.

01:05:37.519 --> 01:05:38.981
[SPEAKER_01]: And they're all going to be great.

01:05:39.161 --> 01:05:41.222
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, except for the Sonata match, they're going to be terrific.

01:05:41.382 --> 01:05:42.983
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like the beginning and the end.

01:05:43.183 --> 01:05:47.526
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like literally the shitty of bread with the greatest middle hand which he did.

01:05:48.486 --> 01:05:49.087
[SPEAKER_00]: Very well put.

01:05:49.407 --> 01:05:49.687
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:05:49.807 --> 01:05:50.007
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:05:50.387 --> 01:05:53.849
[SPEAKER_00]: And Nick says I'm ready for Jake to have a disgustingly high point total.

01:05:53.909 --> 01:05:57.692
[SPEAKER_00]: That could be, by the way, that Jake could almost be the guy like,

01:05:58.732 --> 01:06:09.183
[SPEAKER_00]: evil where they, they threatened to have him into ruin things in a way, you know, and we're going to have a lot of parity and I think we're going to have a few fifths and threes.

01:06:09.463 --> 01:06:09.763
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:06:09.783 --> 01:06:12.686
[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to have a lot of five and four and a lot of four and five.

01:06:12.967 --> 01:06:13.147
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:06:13.307 --> 01:06:13.487
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:06:13.587 --> 01:06:14.168
[SPEAKER_00]: I think so too.

01:06:14.828 --> 01:06:19.611
[SPEAKER_00]: Brad is saying that Shingo should work as way over to start him to join cosmic angels and tag with boy on a regular basis.

01:06:19.651 --> 01:06:25.014
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, you know, we're probably not going to get historic crossover like we used to know that they're from two different companies.

01:06:25.094 --> 01:06:26.635
[SPEAKER_00]: And so we're not going to get that mixed tag.

01:06:27.576 --> 01:06:29.217
[SPEAKER_00]: Like we were like we were wishing for.

01:06:29.837 --> 01:06:33.960
[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, and Nick Reeves says Jake does face Yoda Suji on the final night.

01:06:34.780 --> 01:06:36.541
[SPEAKER_00]: I can see that being a thing where

01:06:37.762 --> 01:06:43.893
[SPEAKER_00]: Yo to have to win to get in and to kind of threaten the idea that Jake could ruin the champ there.

01:06:44.433 --> 01:06:47.378
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's I think he'll be have my all talking out of surgery.

01:06:47.418 --> 01:06:48.360
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll get to a little eventually.

01:06:48.861 --> 01:06:49.041
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

01:06:49.904 --> 01:06:53.566
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think Jake leaves just again going to be a middle-of-the-road guy.

01:06:53.606 --> 01:06:58.929
[SPEAKER_01]: He might actually be like a break, wrestling for some of these guys, because he got the silent gesture thing going on.

01:06:58.949 --> 01:07:00.050
[SPEAKER_01]: He's doing the clown thing.

01:07:00.470 --> 01:07:07.474
[SPEAKER_01]: If you look like they're going to be gimmick-reel with this match, it's outside of the ring, a rest box, that kind of thing.

01:07:07.895 --> 01:07:08.515
[SPEAKER_01]: That's fine.

01:07:09.035 --> 01:07:11.837
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, like, I'm not expecting this guy to change the tournament.

01:07:12.717 --> 01:07:14.518
[SPEAKER_00]: Another one for the B-block comes after that.

01:07:14.538 --> 01:07:16.560
[SPEAKER_00]: It will be Oscar versus Ren Nareda.

01:07:17.722 --> 01:07:19.844
[SPEAKER_00]: And we, we've talked about Oscar.

01:07:20.024 --> 01:07:22.566
[SPEAKER_00]: He doesn't need to win the tournament.

01:07:22.586 --> 01:07:24.147
[SPEAKER_00]: He doesn't need to advance in the tournament.

01:07:24.167 --> 01:07:25.227
[SPEAKER_00]: He just needs to wrestle well.

01:07:25.268 --> 01:07:25.888
[SPEAKER_00]: He'll be fine.

01:07:26.829 --> 01:07:28.710
[SPEAKER_00]: His story is as a tag team wrestler.

01:07:28.750 --> 01:07:31.592
[SPEAKER_00]: And we're happy that he and Udois are in there because of talented guys.

01:07:31.612 --> 01:07:32.613
[SPEAKER_00]: He doesn't need to win this thing.

01:07:33.293 --> 01:07:41.559
[SPEAKER_00]: Nareda, I feel like, we'll take that house of torture mantle of the guy who is, unfortunately, in the mix, even though he's a promie wrestler.

01:07:41.679 --> 01:07:44.241
[SPEAKER_00]: And at least evil could, could wrestle.

01:07:47.526 --> 01:07:52.970
[SPEAKER_00]: But we're stuck with this and somebody from House of Torture has to do well, and I have a sinking feeling it's going to be neurita.

01:07:53.671 --> 01:07:58.214
[SPEAKER_01]: Even watching the vibe of him for the press conference, which is like aggressively does not give a crap.

01:07:58.915 --> 01:08:05.700
[SPEAKER_01]: You know anything like, yeah, just the whole, the whole energy, like when the hair grow out, you look a little chunkier, like you look at him bigger.

01:08:06.080 --> 01:08:07.561
[SPEAKER_00]: And I agree with Rhett, I don't carry there.

01:08:08.502 --> 01:08:09.883
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't care about him either, so yeah.

01:08:10.344 --> 01:08:13.008
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, I don't think either of these two are going to do it.

01:08:13.028 --> 01:08:21.479
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, Narita will be involved on the final day, may even make the semi-finals as that threat to wreck everything, but I kind of doubt it.

01:08:23.082 --> 01:08:33.409
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I feel like authoring Udo are both going to have nice days in this tournament, but it's going to be clear that the sum is greater than the parks with their G1 campaign.

01:08:33.729 --> 01:08:35.411
[SPEAKER_01]: But I think it's the first one for both of them.

01:08:35.531 --> 01:08:37.632
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, I don't think here we go.

01:08:37.672 --> 01:08:43.716
[SPEAKER_00]: Perfectly good story to tell by the way, is that these guys are both capable wrestlers, but much, but almost indestructible together.

01:08:44.037 --> 01:08:45.077
[SPEAKER_00]: That's not a bad story at all.

01:08:46.238 --> 01:08:48.200
[SPEAKER_00]: After that, we have Udo Ice and Great O'Con.

01:08:48.220 --> 01:08:49.601
[SPEAKER_00]: Speaking of that, this is in the A-block.

01:08:49.761 --> 01:08:51.582
[SPEAKER_00]: Udo and Oscar in different blocks.

01:08:51.803 --> 01:08:54.294
[SPEAKER_01]: Do you have a prediction for the other match?

01:08:55.890 --> 01:08:57.752
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, for Oscar and Ren, yeah.

01:08:58.172 --> 01:08:59.833
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think Ren will win.

01:08:59.913 --> 01:09:00.814
[SPEAKER_01]: Dockers gonna win.

01:09:01.154 --> 01:09:05.158
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, usually I would have those, those debut matches and the G1, the usual haven't won them.

01:09:05.618 --> 01:09:06.919
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, fair enough.

01:09:06.979 --> 01:09:08.300
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I send Great O'Con.

01:09:08.521 --> 01:09:17.828
[SPEAKER_00]: That has the subtext of the challengers now, knockout brothers and the champions, Great O'Con, holding both the trio's titles and the tag team titles.

01:09:17.888 --> 01:09:21.892
[SPEAKER_00]: So I could definitely see you to ice beating Great O'Con in the opening night of the tournament.

01:09:22.972 --> 01:09:26.394
[SPEAKER_00]: But both these guys feel like five and four and four and five guys to me.

01:09:28.455 --> 01:09:29.896
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:09:30.276 --> 01:09:31.977
[SPEAKER_01]: I agree with all of what you said.

01:09:32.077 --> 01:09:40.882
[SPEAKER_01]: I think the fact that Greta Kahn has to tag titles over them kind of gives me the idea that, you know, I still have to win this.

01:09:40.942 --> 01:09:46.905
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like a debut match and kind of gets that win over Greta Kahn in the addition of it.

01:09:46.925 --> 01:09:49.126
[SPEAKER_01]: I think you know, life you can have a really good tournament.

01:09:52.288 --> 01:09:58.036
[SPEAKER_01]: I think he probably motivated him a little bit more now that because you wrote it in his box anymore.

01:09:58.176 --> 01:10:05.185
[SPEAKER_01]: So he's just going to kind of go out there and do his great-o-com thing, but there could be a little happiness here.

01:10:05.765 --> 01:10:06.686
[SPEAKER_01]: I hope to see it at least.

01:10:07.187 --> 01:10:11.251
[SPEAKER_00]: Did you see Great O'Con throughout the first picture of the Japanese baseball game this past week?

01:10:11.451 --> 01:10:13.373
[SPEAKER_01]: I did not anything of note with that.

01:10:13.953 --> 01:10:14.694
[SPEAKER_00]: Full costume.

01:10:14.714 --> 01:10:16.156
[SPEAKER_00]: A couple of things to note.

01:10:16.296 --> 01:10:17.717
[SPEAKER_00]: Absolute full costume.

01:10:17.737 --> 01:10:20.320
[SPEAKER_00]: Not even the baseball was dressed as the Great O'Con.

01:10:20.700 --> 01:10:25.605
[SPEAKER_00]: And the other thing is had a matching green and gold baseball net.

01:10:26.617 --> 01:10:36.321
[SPEAKER_00]: for his pit, so he threw out the first pitch with a green and gold myth like this, the laces in it, sewed up where gold, the myth was green, it was beautiful.

01:10:36.581 --> 01:10:41.724
[SPEAKER_00]: If that thing shows up a two-to-all-con, I will mortgage the house, day by that, if it shows up some point.

01:10:41.804 --> 01:10:46.426
[SPEAKER_00]: Brad says, New Japan seems to be higher on Udois over Oscar when it comes to singles matches.

01:10:46.506 --> 01:10:47.566
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, I think definitely.

01:10:48.066 --> 01:10:54.149
[SPEAKER_00]: And I totally get it, he says, Oscar being the next last archer isn't a bad role in NJPW for him, and he's better than Hickelail.

01:10:57.308 --> 01:11:01.275
[SPEAKER_01]: but you have to protect Renner Reed on the first minute of the G1 and Officer and beat off.

01:11:02.041 --> 01:11:06.262
[SPEAKER_00]: No, you don't have to, but I think that I think they're going to protect Narita a little bit.

01:11:06.623 --> 01:11:20.487
[SPEAKER_00]: Next says, I think the story with you to an Oscar you described is really important because it should be obvious that a great tag team can be the team of two top singles guys and wrestling ignores that too often, especially American wrestling by God, Vince McMahon didn't like tag team wrestling.

01:11:20.527 --> 01:11:22.528
[SPEAKER_00]: He thought it was too patterned, didn't enjoy it.

01:11:23.048 --> 01:11:27.930
[SPEAKER_00]: And so he always had the tag team guys lose to two singles guys.

01:11:32.031 --> 01:11:37.875
[SPEAKER_00]: Like the Croquettes in Mid-Atlantic and all that were a little more respectful when Jim Croquette Senior ran it.

01:11:37.895 --> 01:11:38.996
[SPEAKER_00]: It was a tag team territory.

01:11:39.677 --> 01:11:41.138
[SPEAKER_00]: Daps, Lou tag team territory.

01:11:41.158 --> 01:11:44.500
[SPEAKER_00]: The tag team's main event ended over the single skies most of the time.

01:11:45.081 --> 01:11:50.164
[SPEAKER_00]: Jim Croquette Junior came in a little bit later that flipped a little bit.

01:11:50.344 --> 01:11:50.525
[SPEAKER_00]: But

01:11:51.365 --> 01:11:58.827
[SPEAKER_00]: I think we can all agree like the Crocodile Promotions like Midnight Express, the Rock and Roll Express, the briskos, the Rickest team boat and Jay Youngblood.

01:11:59.047 --> 01:12:02.588
[SPEAKER_00]: Tag team division was always very respected, highly respected there.

01:12:03.149 --> 01:12:07.790
[SPEAKER_00]: And the Tag team champions were always portrayed as top guys when together.

01:12:08.450 --> 01:12:12.331
[SPEAKER_00]: And so yeah, I agree with you, Nick, I think that should be the case.

01:12:12.671 --> 01:12:13.792
[SPEAKER_00]: They're specialists, right?

01:12:13.832 --> 01:12:17.593
[SPEAKER_00]: They're better at this than two guys who always wrestle singles.

01:12:18.333 --> 01:12:25.775
[SPEAKER_00]: And I have no issue with you to an Oscar, like I mentioned, not quite beating guys and singles matches and then beating them in tag matches.

01:12:25.995 --> 01:12:26.936
[SPEAKER_00]: Just send that message.

01:12:27.656 --> 01:12:27.996
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm down.

01:12:28.656 --> 01:12:29.896
[SPEAKER_00]: I also, I do worry.

01:12:30.216 --> 01:12:33.317
[SPEAKER_00]: I do worry that Oscar is going to get Marty Genetty in some day.

01:12:34.358 --> 01:12:38.619
[SPEAKER_00]: I do worry about that because I think they see a lot in ice and should for them.

01:12:39.653 --> 01:12:42.433
[SPEAKER_01]: You're probably not wrong on that, but he's doing well for himself now.

01:12:42.453 --> 01:12:49.595
[SPEAKER_01]: Yep, no matter what, if he does well for himself, he'll be fine because he speaks English and he can wrestle a new thing.

01:12:50.115 --> 01:12:50.675
[SPEAKER_00]: Very well said.

01:12:51.315 --> 01:12:53.655
[SPEAKER_00]: The other thing is Jeremy, we look at the show in Chicago.

01:12:53.735 --> 01:12:59.396
[SPEAKER_00]: We are getting rematches of the last two wrestling domain events at the show.

01:12:59.416 --> 01:12:59.896
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, right, we are.

01:13:00.176 --> 01:13:00.837
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm telling the next.

01:13:01.137 --> 01:13:04.957
[SPEAKER_00]: I just want to show to Umano and Zack Saber, Jr.

01:13:10.041 --> 01:13:15.964
[SPEAKER_00]: I think both these guys are going to be treated fairly well, you know what I liked, Jeremy, I hope it continues.

01:13:16.824 --> 01:13:22.506
[SPEAKER_00]: Second night of those quirk and hall shows after he got humiliated by Gabe Kid, showed a wrestle pissed off.

01:13:23.687 --> 01:13:25.028
[SPEAKER_00]: His match, he wrestled pissed.

01:13:25.048 --> 01:13:35.092
[SPEAKER_00]: He beat the living snata to knock a horror and wasn't dirty about it, but just gave him extra mustard on the body slams and gave him extra body slams, not drink one, like three.

01:13:36.432 --> 01:13:37.113
[SPEAKER_00]: He needs to do that.

01:13:38.124 --> 01:13:40.388
[SPEAKER_00]: He needs to wrestle his preview matches pissed off.

01:13:40.588 --> 01:13:47.378
[SPEAKER_00]: And he needs to absolutely bury the guys that are not in the G1 that are in those preview tags.

01:13:48.290 --> 01:13:50.851
[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, whoever the lowest guys in the totem like Zayn J.

01:13:51.251 --> 01:13:55.212
[SPEAKER_00]: If Zayn J runs into show to Eumano, he needs to get steam roll by show to Eumano.

01:13:55.272 --> 01:13:57.832
[SPEAKER_00]: Show to should wrestle this whole thing pissed.

01:13:58.552 --> 01:14:02.293
[SPEAKER_00]: Just that's just the way he, that should be as default setting for this entire tournament.

01:14:02.953 --> 01:14:04.394
[SPEAKER_00]: He's running into Zach right here.

01:14:05.294 --> 01:14:10.415
[SPEAKER_00]: This one could go either way to me, Jeremy, because I think both guys are going to be taking care of for the most part in the tournament.

01:14:11.115 --> 01:14:15.376
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm just looking forward to seeing it again because I know it got a bad rap.

01:14:18.677 --> 01:14:22.060
[SPEAKER_00]: I was third row for that match and I liked it when I saw it live.

01:14:22.140 --> 01:14:27.843
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it played better live than it did on TV and I'm looking forward to saying it again.

01:14:30.885 --> 01:14:32.286
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's magical to be pretty good.

01:14:32.707 --> 01:14:40.592
[SPEAKER_01]: I think the aggressive show to Umano that we have now is better than the iteration that did not seem to connect with the audience before.

01:14:41.432 --> 01:14:42.313
[SPEAKER_01]: With that said.

01:14:43.498 --> 01:14:45.139
[SPEAKER_01]: I kind of think it's a Saber Jr.

01:14:45.179 --> 01:14:54.622
[SPEAKER_01]: When does this one be because showed him and it's an appetit all, kind of in a losing streak kind of mode, kind of need to find it, mojo a little bit.

01:14:54.782 --> 01:15:02.464
[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't think it's that Saber Jr. if the kind of guy you go into a match, not being 100% meant to be going into it.

01:15:03.925 --> 01:15:10.287
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just leaning toward back with showed a kind of having a redemption tour with a couple of losses.

01:15:10.567 --> 01:15:12.628
[SPEAKER_01]: He's a baby face, he's got to be a loser at the gate.

01:15:14.396 --> 01:15:18.761
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you know, especially in New Japan who handicapped who in the cap, they're baby faces constant.

01:15:18.942 --> 01:15:23.948
[SPEAKER_00]: No, I don't think they're done humiliating Umano, so I can see him losing this match no problem.

01:15:23.988 --> 01:15:26.090
[SPEAKER_01]: He's not part of the story that Umano has.

01:15:26.110 --> 01:15:27.352
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the Virginia written.

01:15:28.372 --> 01:15:29.793
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, no story with D'Rilla.

01:15:30.033 --> 01:15:30.653
[SPEAKER_01]: It was good.

01:15:30.693 --> 01:15:33.234
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and it's all of this stuff like that.

01:15:33.354 --> 01:15:39.797
[SPEAKER_00]: And this one jacket that the kind of loss that can keep him just two points short of where he needs to be at the end of the night at the end of the tournament.

01:15:40.278 --> 01:15:47.221
[SPEAKER_00]: And Nick says fifth on the cards, just to me, a story of a quick match where showed his frustrated after losing a game and gets caught with a flash pen.

01:15:47.681 --> 01:15:51.805
[SPEAKER_00]: look at that is that I was going to say nicks on fire today, Brad is too.

01:15:52.906 --> 01:15:54.968
[SPEAKER_00]: This way we have such a I love this crowd.

01:15:54.988 --> 01:15:55.908
[SPEAKER_00]: We've got a smart audience.

01:15:56.489 --> 01:16:01.173
[SPEAKER_00]: But I think that's really sharp worth noting to nine singles matches.

01:16:01.594 --> 01:16:03.676
[SPEAKER_00]: We don't have a lot of time here, especially early.

01:16:04.236 --> 01:16:06.638
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, the main event in the semi main might go a little bit.

01:16:06.798 --> 01:16:08.420
[SPEAKER_01]: I can see author of running click.

01:16:09.324 --> 01:16:15.773
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, well, they're several I think that could be flash pins or a quick roll-ups or something like that.

01:16:15.933 --> 01:16:16.474
[SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely.

01:16:16.494 --> 01:16:17.996
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we don't have all night here.

01:16:18.196 --> 01:16:19.217
[SPEAKER_00]: We don't have all night for this.

01:16:20.219 --> 01:16:25.245
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, next after that one is going to be Harrow Kigoto and Sonata.

01:16:25.266 --> 01:16:26.527
[SPEAKER_00]: Now here's a guy folks.

01:16:27.383 --> 01:16:48.864
[SPEAKER_00]: that is not being talked about very much and that's heroically godo let's not forget there was a godo bump when he was the champion he then went off to do the movie they did the bull crap about Zack breaking his arm and all that kind of stuff uh don't sleep on him in this tournament either right now because if you're looking at something that will energize the new Japan fan base

01:16:49.645 --> 01:16:52.667
[SPEAKER_00]: And remember, they got to sell tickets in a very big building for January 4th.

01:16:52.727 --> 01:16:54.448
[SPEAKER_00]: Don't sleep on hero, he goto, being a factor in this tournament either.

01:16:54.468 --> 01:17:05.215
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that he would probably sell more tickets than a week, a weekly push to you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you,

01:17:05.775 --> 01:17:06.175
[SPEAKER_00]: That's that.

01:17:06.875 --> 01:17:10.176
[SPEAKER_00]: And then Nick Reeves says I think go to was absolutely in contention until the final day.

01:17:10.196 --> 01:17:10.396
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:17:10.496 --> 01:17:10.916
[SPEAKER_00]: So do I.

01:17:10.996 --> 01:17:12.997
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think he would actually move the needle a little bit.

01:17:13.037 --> 01:17:19.519
[SPEAKER_00]: If go to was going into the main event against sushi at a rough final campaign.

01:17:28.555 --> 01:17:31.878
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I go to on the last night is fascinating, isn't it?

01:17:32.178 --> 01:17:32.338
[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.

01:17:32.738 --> 01:17:35.000
[SPEAKER_00]: It absolutely is.

01:17:35.020 --> 01:17:39.944
[SPEAKER_00]: And Nick, Nick says, Goto feels like one of Suji's losses to me with a fall title match.

01:17:39.964 --> 01:17:44.628
[SPEAKER_00]: The possible, keep in mind, not everybody who beats the champion in the G1 gets a title match.

01:17:45.389 --> 01:17:53.655
[SPEAKER_00]: But Goto, beating Suji, would probably sell more tickets than almost anybody else in this bracket, getting a non-resilking them title match against you.

01:17:53.855 --> 01:17:55.617
[SPEAKER_01]: Here's my wild hair braid theory here.

01:17:57.524 --> 01:17:58.885
[SPEAKER_01]: Not losing much in this tournament.

01:17:59.305 --> 01:17:59.586
[SPEAKER_00]: No.

01:18:00.466 --> 01:18:00.746
[SPEAKER_01]: Addle.

01:18:01.467 --> 01:18:04.749
[SPEAKER_01]: I think Godo might be one of the guy if he loses two and you know why.

01:18:06.190 --> 01:18:12.354
[SPEAKER_01]: Because the exact same time that he could do a title match, he'll be doing Pruss for Free Fighter.

01:18:13.441 --> 01:18:16.344
[SPEAKER_00]: Look at you go, look at you go that makes perfect sense.

01:18:16.364 --> 01:18:24.431
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, and again, as far as there are a couple of nights they need to sell tickets before the dome and go to being in a world title match can bump up tickets.

01:18:24.451 --> 01:18:25.412
[SPEAKER_00]: We saw when he was champion.

01:18:25.512 --> 01:18:33.199
[SPEAKER_01]: Like world title match around the same time, they've been a major motion picture with one of the most popular IP and Japan of all time.

01:18:34.412 --> 01:18:36.916
[SPEAKER_01]: I could see why they would do that.

01:18:37.236 --> 01:18:41.122
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, now that go to going to make it to the post-block way.

01:18:41.622 --> 01:18:44.747
[SPEAKER_01]: But if he be to go to Suji, that's a feather in his cap.

01:18:44.887 --> 01:18:47.731
[SPEAKER_01]: He gets that title match in September, October.

01:18:48.212 --> 01:18:48.773
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm here for it.

01:18:49.307 --> 01:18:51.728
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and don't don't sleep on the tournament either.

01:18:51.748 --> 01:18:52.388
[SPEAKER_00]: It's on site.

01:18:52.468 --> 01:18:53.929
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not on the same hand.

01:18:54.089 --> 01:18:54.909
[SPEAKER_01]: He's going to be a troll.

01:18:55.029 --> 01:18:55.529
[SPEAKER_01]: He can win.

01:18:55.549 --> 01:18:59.811
[SPEAKER_01]: He can lose any match in this tournament with the shenanigans that he has.

01:19:00.411 --> 01:19:02.632
[SPEAKER_01]: He doesn't have to win in any traditional way.

01:19:02.752 --> 01:19:06.753
[SPEAKER_01]: So he is literally the wild card in this block.

01:19:07.334 --> 01:19:14.956
[SPEAKER_00]: Next Nick is guessing that Takeshta, Godo, and Bolton would be, be Suji's losses in the tournament is what he thinks.

01:19:19.300 --> 01:19:19.480
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:19:19.920 --> 01:19:25.503
[SPEAKER_00]: And Brad says, hopefully we get the winner going for the dome title shot this year, like they should, no more title shots before wrestling them.

01:19:25.563 --> 01:19:26.723
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's what they're going to do.

01:19:27.444 --> 01:19:33.326
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that there will be those little moments where they put the main event in jeopardy, there'll be a defense of king of pro wrestling.

01:19:33.846 --> 01:19:42.050
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I mean, that could be the go-to one, you know, where the champ doesn't face the G1 winner, but they face someone they lost lost to, you know, that type of thing.

01:19:42.070 --> 01:19:44.151
[SPEAKER_00]: They could definitely do something like that.

01:19:44.211 --> 01:19:48.233
[SPEAKER_00]: Senada, you hit a perfectly easy troll in the tournament, but won't be won't be winning it.

01:19:48.393 --> 01:19:48.593
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

01:19:53.663 --> 01:20:05.407
[SPEAKER_00]: B block, and these guys are getting a lot of votes to either win the tournament or win the B block, Jeremy, and I understand why, of course, Newman is now a former world champion.

01:20:05.507 --> 01:20:19.151
[SPEAKER_00]: So they don't usually bury those guys unless they are way past their prime, you know, like Tenson was a former champion in the tournament when he was way past his prime and lost, and lost most of his matches, certainly not the case for Calum Newman.

01:20:19.432 --> 01:20:20.432
[SPEAKER_00]: I think he'll be protected.

01:20:20.812 --> 01:20:24.253
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think all of us expected way more to at least make a little bit of noise in the tournament.

01:20:25.053 --> 01:20:26.814
[SPEAKER_00]: A lot of people are picking him to win a Jeremy.

01:20:26.834 --> 01:20:27.674
[SPEAKER_00]: Where do you come down on?

01:20:32.755 --> 01:20:37.476
[SPEAKER_01]: Before we did this show, I would pretty sure you and Maro would be the guy to win this tournament.

01:20:38.477 --> 01:20:43.938
[SPEAKER_01]: With that said, I think both of these guys are going to be in the post block play for the V-block.

01:20:47.377 --> 01:20:57.563
[SPEAKER_01]: I think Newman wins this match, but I think you're future then at the last night and he becomes the the one that everyone kind of hope wins.

01:20:58.904 --> 01:21:01.205
[SPEAKER_00]: The psychology on that's a little wonky though, isn't it?

01:21:01.225 --> 01:21:11.071
[SPEAKER_00]: Because the idea that the crowd, he's in contention until the last night, and then he has to be Oscar, who is kind of a crowd favorite.

01:21:11.111 --> 01:21:13.352
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, like he's not going to have the crowd united

01:21:16.736 --> 01:21:18.357
[SPEAKER_00]: But they're not, but they don't boo Oscar.

01:21:18.377 --> 01:21:19.258
[SPEAKER_00]: They like Oscars.

01:21:19.278 --> 01:21:22.340
[SPEAKER_00]: They don't necessarily want to see him overcome Oscar.

01:21:22.380 --> 01:21:22.761
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, man.

01:21:22.821 --> 01:21:25.723
[SPEAKER_00]: It's where it's wonky psychology, if that's the case.

01:21:25.823 --> 01:21:30.987
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't see it going to be a situation where you go close to making it.

01:21:31.167 --> 01:21:33.069
[SPEAKER_01]: And you've just got to get past Oscar.

01:21:33.449 --> 01:21:35.631
[SPEAKER_01]: And Oscar gets heels it up, just a little bit.

01:21:36.051 --> 01:21:40.494
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, like maybe he, her, maybe he's, maybe he's just got a bad wing.

01:21:40.674 --> 01:21:41.355
[SPEAKER_01]: Something like that.

01:21:41.495 --> 01:21:43.497
[SPEAKER_01]: One of these things where you just,

01:21:44.197 --> 01:21:53.202
[SPEAKER_01]: You're fighting with grit like it's the baby face Like yes all the baby faces that they're gonna super baby face in this tournament and to you

01:21:54.252 --> 01:22:01.337
[SPEAKER_00]: you know what I'm saying like but if you you were going to do that and get that last victory isn't this the match they should do last?

01:22:01.917 --> 01:22:18.848
[SPEAKER_01]: No this is the match they do first because if you want you get a win but Callum Newman ends up winning this match and shows that like yeah you may have lost that world title match but he still Callum Newman and that shoulder doesn't if he can bother him he's going to be a factor in this term.

01:22:19.248 --> 01:22:19.588
[SPEAKER_01]: You have

01:22:24.262 --> 01:22:29.843
[SPEAKER_01]: that loses like three or four out the gate and have to literally like win five in a row to make it.

01:22:30.243 --> 01:22:31.064
[SPEAKER_01]: You get that guy.

01:22:31.424 --> 01:22:31.744
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:22:31.824 --> 01:22:31.944
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

01:22:32.004 --> 01:22:32.584
[SPEAKER_00]: I see your point.

01:22:32.824 --> 01:22:35.425
[SPEAKER_00]: I feel better about you.

01:22:35.445 --> 01:22:35.625
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

01:22:35.645 --> 01:22:45.927
[SPEAKER_00]: Chances if there were three people per block going through like they used to were one guy gets the first round by and then second and third goes through and they have that I would feel better about you use chances.

01:22:45.967 --> 01:22:48.448
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just squeezing him into the semi finals.

01:22:48.508 --> 01:22:49.748
[SPEAKER_00]: I think they're with what they're doing.

01:22:49.968 --> 01:22:51.868
[SPEAKER_01]: Like I think they're doing the three and three again.

01:22:51.888 --> 01:22:52.649
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's semi

01:22:55.590 --> 01:22:58.493
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's what in that third one, the three and three again.

01:22:58.593 --> 01:23:05.280
[SPEAKER_00]: And so that's not why did I get that wrong because I In Chris amps is bracket don't you pick like semi fine.

01:23:05.300 --> 01:23:06.081
[SPEAKER_01]: I haven't done anything.

01:23:06.161 --> 01:23:06.661
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, shoot.

01:23:07.102 --> 01:23:07.522
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

01:23:07.782 --> 01:23:09.684
[SPEAKER_01]: So how many what if no, it's at three.

01:23:09.924 --> 01:23:10.685
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, wait a minute.

01:23:10.705 --> 01:23:11.066
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to.

01:23:11.086 --> 01:23:16.331
[SPEAKER_01]: But because I've been operating under the assumption that it's three even though like

01:23:17.693 --> 01:23:21.255
[SPEAKER_01]: I will get that, I will get the first four guys that you face.

01:23:21.695 --> 01:23:25.277
[SPEAKER_01]: Calum nomenice, that's him or junior drill, I'm already in show to him, but yeah.

01:23:25.517 --> 01:23:38.864
[SPEAKER_01]: We can lose three of those four easily, you know, potentially beat Shota and then lose another match somewhere on the run up, you know, to really introduce the tension of him winning or making it through.

01:23:39.582 --> 01:23:42.743
[SPEAKER_00]: Everything I'm seeing is that it's two from each block.

01:23:42.763 --> 01:23:43.403
[SPEAKER_00]: Go to the side.

01:23:43.423 --> 01:23:44.063
[SPEAKER_00]: I find something fun.

01:23:44.083 --> 01:23:45.204
[SPEAKER_01]: Both block night guard there.

01:23:45.264 --> 01:23:46.744
[SPEAKER_01]: Are there three, post block night?

01:23:47.124 --> 01:23:52.666
[SPEAKER_00]: No, there's there's just two nights in Cork and Rio Goku, Kukugi Khan, back to back.

01:23:52.726 --> 01:23:54.787
[SPEAKER_00]: So there's semi-final night and finals night.

01:23:54.827 --> 01:23:55.367
[SPEAKER_00]: So there are two.

01:23:56.087 --> 01:23:56.807
[SPEAKER_00]: There are two nights.

01:23:57.087 --> 01:24:04.549
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, just and I'm just seeing everything I'm seeing says that it's not six people advancing it is for two from each block.

01:24:04.950 --> 01:24:06.390
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what I'm seeing right now.

01:24:07.680 --> 01:24:09.103
[SPEAKER_01]: Ha, that would be interesting.

01:24:10.005 --> 01:24:18.662
[SPEAKER_01]: We got Newman, Uya, and Aaron Wolfe with the three guys that I kind of am gravitating towards.

01:24:19.230 --> 01:24:23.691
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because I'm double checking all this Jeremy because yes, they're going to go to Corrican Hall.

01:24:23.711 --> 01:24:25.691
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a very last night of B block.

01:24:26.991 --> 01:24:30.052
[SPEAKER_00]: She's in Woke is the very last night of A block.

01:24:30.072 --> 01:24:34.073
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's on the 12th and 13th and then Saturday, the 15th at Rio.

01:24:34.093 --> 01:24:34.953
[SPEAKER_00]: Go, go, go, go, go, go.

01:24:34.973 --> 01:24:43.734
[SPEAKER_00]: You can is a match with no lineup a card with no lineup because it's semi finals and then apparently the finals will be Sunday, August 16th.

01:24:43.754 --> 01:24:44.114
[SPEAKER_00]: That's him.

01:24:44.154 --> 01:24:45.354
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that's cool.

01:24:45.735 --> 01:24:46.715
[SPEAKER_01]: Glad we got that cleared up.

01:24:48.795 --> 01:25:08.612
[SPEAKER_01]: It's going past it, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh uh, uh uh, uh uh, uh uh, uh uh, uh uh, uh uh, uh uh, uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh

01:25:10.051 --> 01:25:10.972
[SPEAKER_00]: It's kind of where I'm going.

01:25:11.012 --> 01:25:11.372
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going.

01:25:11.392 --> 01:25:12.352
[SPEAKER_00]: We'll take a look at a second.

01:25:12.593 --> 01:25:15.194
[SPEAKER_00]: But they're certainly, it complicates things, doesn't it?

01:25:15.214 --> 01:25:16.895
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's not six guys moving.

01:25:16.915 --> 01:25:19.157
[SPEAKER_01]: They make the district much tougher.

01:25:19.237 --> 01:25:19.557
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

01:25:21.292 --> 01:25:24.194
[SPEAKER_00]: After that, the eighth match, second to last.

01:25:24.594 --> 01:25:25.314
[SPEAKER_00]: Second to last.

01:25:25.354 --> 01:25:25.955
[SPEAKER_01]: Give me a great.

01:25:26.435 --> 01:25:36.281
[SPEAKER_00]: Both in Oleg and Rio Heo, we were, you know, I don't think they see O we were as a top guy yet in this, just the way they'd book him.

01:25:36.941 --> 01:25:41.344
[SPEAKER_00]: But, so I think he's a five and four guy in this tournament.

01:25:41.884 --> 01:25:43.125
[SPEAKER_00]: I kind of think both in this too.

01:25:43.905 --> 01:25:44.646
[SPEAKER_00]: I like both of these guys.

01:25:44.666 --> 01:25:45.766
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, we look first, she won.

01:25:47.529 --> 01:25:51.553
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think so, but I'm looking forward to, I'm looking forward to this match.

01:25:52.213 --> 01:26:07.807
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think these guys are going to be factors, they might be mathematically eligible on the last day because we saw that at best the Super Junior's were, almost everybody in the tournament was technically mathematically eligible on the last day and so we might get that.

01:26:08.268 --> 01:26:12.992
[SPEAKER_00]: But I don't see either of these guys making the final four, but boy, I'm going to enjoy watching this one.

01:26:14.703 --> 01:26:43.406
[SPEAKER_01]: uh... i think it's match at the uh... possibly know he was in the g one last year i don't know yeah i thought he i thought he was yeah and it's not as first you one he lives in a match for bologna like i don't know why i just bologna like if the bigger star to me right now and it's not real here with time it's not his year he's going to have a really good matches but he is the other side of that you get williamura coin where everything that you've seen about

01:26:44.142 --> 01:26:51.285
[SPEAKER_01]: to how the way that they booked them should give you no evidence that he is planned for bigger things.

01:26:51.665 --> 01:27:00.049
[SPEAKER_00]: Next, this current prediction is that Shota and you, you have faced each other in block play, and then again in the finals, and each guy beats each other once in the tournament.

01:27:00.149 --> 01:27:01.990
[SPEAKER_00]: I can't decide who wins that though.

01:27:02.370 --> 01:27:10.274
[SPEAKER_00]: He thinks that whoever wins in block play loses to the other in the playoffs, he is still kind of figuring out who he wants to win in the playoffs.

01:27:14.275 --> 01:27:14.497
[SPEAKER_00]: You know

01:27:15.975 --> 01:27:18.537
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I just think that it'll be a heck of a good match.

01:27:18.577 --> 01:27:23.121
[SPEAKER_00]: I think, oh, we was job is to just really wrestle well.

01:27:23.561 --> 01:27:26.464
[SPEAKER_00]: And that'll do more for him than anything else.

01:27:26.484 --> 01:27:27.685
[SPEAKER_00]: He's not going to get the results.

01:27:28.406 --> 01:27:32.169
[SPEAKER_00]: But I do think there's a little bit of pressure on OEWA to at least have good matches.

01:27:32.229 --> 01:27:34.971
[SPEAKER_00]: If he does that, he can come out of this in better shape.

01:27:35.311 --> 01:27:42.998
[SPEAKER_00]: If there are a couple of duds in there, it might just confirm what New Japan kind of thinks that he might just be midcard upper midcard.

01:27:46.808 --> 01:28:02.852
[SPEAKER_00]: There's something missing with the push from New Japan on OE was just like they just don't quite believe in him yet I think he needs to this is a big one where he can show it and I think Yoshi has she did himself a lot of favours in the G1 just by having excellent matches and losing I think you did a lot of favors for himself.

01:28:02.932 --> 01:28:07.573
[SPEAKER_00]: I think OE will probably take the Yoshi has she path and and show up that way

01:28:08.325 --> 01:28:14.936
[SPEAKER_01]: I had some thoughts about Oleg Bolton, and some of that mentioned earlier about doing World Tag week with him and Aaron Wolff.

01:28:15.397 --> 01:28:15.657
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:28:16.218 --> 01:28:20.906
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a part of me that thinks that Aaron Wolff is an old Bolton that restricting them could be the match.

01:28:21.977 --> 01:28:23.918
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it should be, but maybe not this year.

01:28:24.478 --> 01:28:25.739
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:28:25.779 --> 01:28:28.160
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe you're not ready for you to sue Jean Aaron Wolf, yet.

01:28:28.600 --> 01:28:36.243
[SPEAKER_01]: And this is the match that they do this year as like the Japanese hero versus like the calm outside.

01:28:36.483 --> 01:28:39.905
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, like he used the better of the two, and he used the home town favorite.

01:28:40.468 --> 01:28:45.770
[SPEAKER_00]: After Bolton moved to Japan, learned how to speak Japanese and was totally in the system.

01:28:45.810 --> 01:28:49.872
[SPEAKER_00]: It's hard to portray him as the morauding foreigner against this.

01:28:50.192 --> 01:28:51.573
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if you're a morauding foreigner.

01:28:51.693 --> 01:28:54.374
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just like we have this guy that we all love.

01:28:54.414 --> 01:28:55.514
[SPEAKER_01]: And here's this other guy.

01:28:55.534 --> 01:28:56.875
[SPEAKER_01]: It sure got he's better than him.

01:28:58.596 --> 01:28:59.256
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't know.

01:28:59.316 --> 01:29:01.857
[SPEAKER_01]: I get to wait a way to elevate.

01:29:02.675 --> 01:29:23.172
[SPEAKER_01]: Aaron Wolves, because you know how good Owing Bolton is, and if they have that match, and Wolves goes toe to toe, and then beats them, all of a sudden he's kind of elevated, and it's a very real elevation based off of the work the Bolton or like it's done, and it's kind of unfavorable Owing Bolton, but at the same time, the money is going to Aaron Wolves.

01:29:24.515 --> 01:29:26.700
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I mean, I think he could be a great opponent for Wolf some day.

01:29:26.740 --> 01:29:27.542
[SPEAKER_00]: A great rival.

01:29:27.742 --> 01:29:29.345
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I see tag team.

01:29:29.446 --> 01:29:31.490
[SPEAKER_01]: I say, I want them to fight.

01:29:33.293 --> 01:29:34.373
[SPEAKER_00]: I think they could do both.

01:29:34.753 --> 01:29:35.993
[SPEAKER_00]: They definitely could do both.

01:29:36.013 --> 01:29:37.914
[SPEAKER_00]: Look at what happened with the Ren and Shoter for God's sake.

01:29:37.934 --> 01:29:41.394
[SPEAKER_01]: You could do World Tag League and then the fourth part of the end of the end of the rest of each other.

01:29:41.434 --> 01:29:43.195
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, well, maybe, yeah, maybe.

01:29:43.275 --> 01:29:45.855
[SPEAKER_00]: I said, yeah, Wolf Boy, National Television.

01:29:45.975 --> 01:29:46.675
[SPEAKER_00]: That's right.

01:29:46.975 --> 01:29:47.355
[SPEAKER_00]: I know.

01:29:47.596 --> 01:29:48.516
[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, no, you're not wrong.

01:29:48.556 --> 01:29:49.416
[SPEAKER_00]: It could be, it could be that.

01:29:49.436 --> 01:29:51.036
[SPEAKER_01]: There are so many ways that it can go.

01:29:51.076 --> 01:29:54.397
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm trying not to convince myself that it's going to be one to certain way.

01:29:54.797 --> 01:29:55.277
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's it.

01:29:55.917 --> 01:29:59.238
[SPEAKER_00]: The final match is rematch from last year's rest of the main event.

01:30:02.251 --> 01:30:03.672
[SPEAKER_00]: Takesh is in Chicago.

01:30:03.852 --> 01:30:05.752
[SPEAKER_00]: He's an AEW guy.

01:30:05.792 --> 01:30:10.034
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, I know he's got the multi-contracts, but he is an AEW wrestler also.

01:30:10.554 --> 01:30:11.855
[SPEAKER_00]: He's in the United States.

01:30:12.095 --> 01:30:13.055
[SPEAKER_00]: He's in the main event.

01:30:13.956 --> 01:30:19.538
[SPEAKER_00]: I can definitely see Takesh getting a victory here and ending the night on the microphone.

01:30:19.798 --> 01:30:21.438
[SPEAKER_00]: He won the tournament last year.

01:30:22.739 --> 01:30:26.320
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, we need to put the champion to a little bit of jeopardy early.

01:30:26.420 --> 01:30:27.421
[SPEAKER_00]: I could see that.

01:30:27.661 --> 01:30:27.881
[SPEAKER_00]: I could

01:30:31.029 --> 01:30:34.170
[SPEAKER_00]: It wouldn't really hurt Suji terribly much.

01:30:34.610 --> 01:30:38.931
[SPEAKER_00]: He can't lose too much, but they don't, they don't job the champion out in the G1.

01:30:38.951 --> 01:30:39.471
[SPEAKER_00]: They just don't.

01:30:39.951 --> 01:30:41.172
[SPEAKER_00]: But this could be a match he could lose.

01:30:41.752 --> 01:30:49.234
[SPEAKER_00]: To an AEW guy in America, if he's gonna have a couple of losses here and there, this would be one of them, I think.

01:30:52.995 --> 01:30:53.355
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't.

01:30:54.097 --> 01:30:55.137
[SPEAKER_00]: You think surgery is going to be them.

01:30:55.337 --> 01:30:56.438
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm fine with that if they do.

01:30:56.718 --> 01:30:59.899
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just thinking about how New Japan books, you think surgery is going to win.

01:31:00.359 --> 01:31:04.640
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm glad you didn't want to single smash a champion or add a little bit to one the title.

01:31:05.001 --> 01:31:05.241
[SPEAKER_01]: I know.

01:31:05.301 --> 01:31:06.441
[SPEAKER_01]: And he's not shingo.

01:31:06.781 --> 01:31:08.402
[SPEAKER_01]: And they've already done this to him walks.

01:31:08.942 --> 01:31:10.442
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, then wait a minute, didn't I?

01:31:10.482 --> 01:31:11.203
[SPEAKER_01]: You're not sure.

01:31:11.263 --> 01:31:11.743
[SPEAKER_01]: He's not sure.

01:31:12.933 --> 01:31:15.774
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, how I showed I didn't really defend the title.

01:31:15.854 --> 01:31:19.875
[SPEAKER_01]: He defend the title once in forbidden or and then he lost the title almost immediately.

01:31:20.575 --> 01:31:23.596
[SPEAKER_01]: And he hasn't really won matches in the last couple weeks.

01:31:23.856 --> 01:31:27.437
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't see Yoda being booked the same way as the world champion.

01:31:27.637 --> 01:31:28.458
[SPEAKER_00]: I see what you know.

01:31:28.538 --> 01:31:28.838
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

01:31:28.858 --> 01:31:29.018
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

01:31:29.792 --> 01:31:38.041
[SPEAKER_01]: So my whole theory is I think Yoda only loses like what maybe two matches in block play.

01:31:38.502 --> 01:31:45.409
[SPEAKER_01]: I think he runs the table and then gets eliminated in the first round of the postball play because that's the best way.

01:31:46.198 --> 01:31:48.880
[SPEAKER_01]: that you like strengthen him up again.

01:31:49.180 --> 01:31:52.182
[SPEAKER_01]: He's been severely diminished over the past since books.

01:31:52.623 --> 01:31:58.447
[SPEAKER_01]: And if you want to make him just a guy, have a lose a couple of matches, have him just be a part of the field.

01:31:59.027 --> 01:32:05.792
[SPEAKER_01]: And do like competitive as the champion and have him kind of make sure that he get them there.

01:32:06.452 --> 01:32:10.535
[SPEAKER_00]: No, like to me, he is ahead of the pack,

01:32:12.223 --> 01:32:27.662
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe held up by Godo or another person and loses like one maybe two matches and then whoever beat him in the postball play is the guy that they do the November match with or the October match with as the build up so.

01:32:27.682 --> 01:32:27.742
[SPEAKER_01]: If.

01:32:29.624 --> 01:32:29.684
[SPEAKER_01]: If.

01:32:33.221 --> 01:32:35.623
[SPEAKER_01]: You have Yoda coming in in the post-walk play.

01:32:36.023 --> 01:32:41.006
[SPEAKER_01]: This is where I'm very iffy on Aaron Wolf.

01:32:41.526 --> 01:32:46.370
[SPEAKER_01]: Because if you don't win that block, Aaron Wolf can't win the deblock.

01:32:46.410 --> 01:32:49.231
[SPEAKER_01]: It kind of has to be cow aluminum, because he has been the top guy.

01:32:49.692 --> 01:32:58.638
[SPEAKER_01]: That would make it Yoda Suji and Aaron Wolf in the semi-finals of the G1, which to me is not the place that you do that match.

01:32:58.958 --> 01:33:02.080
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, great, but maybe they think it is.

01:33:03.148 --> 01:33:23.645
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, so, but that could be the place where you do Uya and Yoda, where Uya goes on to beat Yoda and go to the finals against Callum Newman, which is running back, you know, like you got to find who the second guy in the Abelock is going to be, is it to catch it up?

01:33:23.966 --> 01:33:29.650
[SPEAKER_01]: Do you do to catch it and Callum Newman as a baby face heal like in the semi-finals?

01:33:30.451 --> 01:33:30.851
[SPEAKER_01]: So you got

01:33:31.720 --> 01:33:39.566
[SPEAKER_01]: to cash in a newman, Fuji, you, uh, and then you either do to cash in a new year, or to care, or you, uh, and new.

01:33:41.428 --> 01:33:50.395
[SPEAKER_01]: Or you do air wolf, but if you do air wolf, and Fuji, like you burned a match that you should be saving for like the absolute biggest, like Albert.

01:33:50.415 --> 01:33:51.536
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't think it would face it.

01:33:51.556 --> 01:33:54.658
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it would be jagged so they don't face each other and the thing.

01:33:54.678 --> 01:33:58.802
[SPEAKER_00]: So I still think that I look at this and Kalimnumman,

01:34:00.225 --> 01:34:03.266
[SPEAKER_00]: And you, you owe more are good wrestlers.

01:34:03.746 --> 01:34:10.648
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think they are wrestle kingdom main event, sell a baseball stadiums which take it's guys.

01:34:11.268 --> 01:34:19.750
[SPEAKER_00]: And which is why I'm leaning hard toward wolf or maybe even goto sneaking through just because they got a sell tickets.

01:34:19.790 --> 01:34:21.651
[SPEAKER_00]: They don't have time to hash you retiring this year.

01:34:21.831 --> 01:34:23.251
[SPEAKER_00]: They might have time to hash you coming back.

01:34:23.491 --> 01:34:24.632
[SPEAKER_00]: Still think that might be the case.

01:34:25.332 --> 01:34:27.052
[SPEAKER_00]: But I keep fantasy booking,

01:34:29.577 --> 01:34:54.831
[SPEAKER_00]: wrestle kingdom and i keep thinking you got the world title match needs to be something that sells tickets you might have showed up and if you can get moxley do it if you can't get moxley do kid again with a stipulation i don't know i still think they would like to do showed up in moxley and kid versus taashie i think don't ask but like to i don't know if that's what they're gonna do but you know you need to have

01:34:55.825 --> 01:35:07.211
[SPEAKER_00]: you to ice and Oscar in a match in there and all of a sudden you're kind of putting together a pretty strong something of interest for five different places, plus the junior heavyweight title match hopefully there's a junior heavyweight title match this year.

01:35:08.052 --> 01:35:15.255
[SPEAKER_00]: And so, but nevertheless, through all that, someone's got to sell these tickets and I just don't see

01:35:21.319 --> 01:35:27.222
[SPEAKER_00]: a lot of tickets in a baseball stadium and I don't really see Louis Moura that either.

01:35:27.542 --> 01:35:31.764
[SPEAKER_00]: And at this stage, but maybe I'm just sower on Oamora.

01:35:31.824 --> 01:35:36.726
[SPEAKER_00]: It's just he hasn't really been in a place of any prominence in 2026.

01:35:36.927 --> 01:35:43.690
[SPEAKER_00]: It just seems odd to say, okay, now we're going to do a baseball stadium show with him on the on the side of the building.

01:35:43.730 --> 01:35:44.450
[SPEAKER_00]: Just seems weird.

01:35:44.470 --> 01:35:49.753
[SPEAKER_01]: The aspect of this for me is what evidence do we have that even

01:35:51.671 --> 01:36:03.980
[SPEAKER_01]: Aaron Wolff has shown that he's got it, that the company's all of a sudden gonna go step on the gas, all gas, no brakes, in the next six months, and go wild on it.

01:36:04.340 --> 01:36:10.104
[SPEAKER_01]: Even when they did no kind of, it was a different pathway than this when they like really went for it.

01:36:10.824 --> 01:36:13.086
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it's only more intentional.

01:36:13.687 --> 01:36:21.792
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, Okada did his return from excursion match with Yoshi Hashin, then challenged the World Champion at his first wrestling kingdom, and then was in the main event the following year.

01:36:22.892 --> 01:36:28.095
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, but I'm saying that like, that's not what they're doing at Wolf.

01:36:28.416 --> 01:36:29.676
[SPEAKER_01]: They put it with House of torture.

01:36:30.397 --> 01:36:32.178
[SPEAKER_01]: And now they're putting him in the G1.

01:36:32.618 --> 01:36:41.743
[SPEAKER_01]: Part of me is like, if you're going to be like really, really good, but they're priming you that next year, if going to be his year kind of

01:36:43.595 --> 01:37:05.052
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, there's a part of me that just states that like, they're not going to go all the way with him this year because they're going to want you to want him to go all the way and they're going to, they want to give you something for later, you know, I'm like they're not going to give it all to you now and they're so weird about the way that they're booking this year and through that they're planning that.

01:37:07.544 --> 01:37:30.639
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not sure Russell King never is going to be a success regardless of who's facing you out of Suji on the other side of it, it's fair point, the idea that you go with the most traditional match versus the biggest potential star on the other side of the ring yet, Suji, those are two completely different approaches and I'm not sure which one is going to be the right play this year.

01:37:32.925 --> 01:37:34.907
[SPEAKER_00]: very curious to see how it all goes.

01:37:34.967 --> 01:37:39.092
[SPEAKER_00]: So again, looking at that, I'm just looking at the brackets here and I'm, you know, I'm just

01:37:39.725 --> 01:37:45.388
[SPEAKER_00]: Stingon with wolf, I think, you know, maybe maybe go to, maybe they feel like it's, I don't think I don't know.

01:37:45.428 --> 01:37:46.369
[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's it.

01:37:46.549 --> 01:37:51.071
[SPEAKER_00]: But I think I think go to, it might be the king of pro wrestling guy, you know, the stop over on the way.

01:37:51.091 --> 01:37:52.172
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:37:52.292 --> 01:37:56.454
[SPEAKER_01]: But I think go to a credit of beating Fuji, but I don't think he's the guy making post.

01:37:56.474 --> 01:38:03.678
[SPEAKER_00]: So looking at the A block to catch the feels like he's a post block play guy, just because he won the G1 last year, he's held the world

01:38:07.338 --> 01:38:29.847
[SPEAKER_00]: the other guy there probably Yoda sushi the champion they don't tend to bury the champ right there and that's kind of the my thoughts on the abrock in addition in addition to the match being a wreck who can go rematch if you're teasing the guy running it back at some point later on in the g1 you do that batch early yes fair enough and then you know on the other side again i just thank

01:38:31.038 --> 01:38:33.481
[SPEAKER_00]: But Wolf makes too much box office sense.

01:38:34.462 --> 01:38:39.027
[SPEAKER_00]: And then you got Zach, which you always have to take seriously in any tournament.

01:38:40.344 --> 01:38:43.625
[SPEAKER_00]: Calum Newman, who I think they are trying to take very seriously.

01:38:43.665 --> 01:38:49.247
[SPEAKER_00]: Again, we believe that Newman's destination, if it works out, is Will Osprey, right?

01:38:49.347 --> 01:38:51.487
[SPEAKER_00]: And that would be another really good rest looking to match.

01:38:51.647 --> 01:38:56.709
[SPEAKER_00]: If they can put it together, you know, they don't just get to call Will up and make that happen.

01:38:56.749 --> 01:38:57.729
[SPEAKER_00]: It's all gonna be worked out.

01:38:58.329 --> 01:39:01.510
[SPEAKER_00]: But I feel like that's the obvious thing there that needs to be there.

01:39:01.550 --> 01:39:03.671
[SPEAKER_00]: And that would really help rest looking in quite a bit, I think.

01:39:04.471 --> 01:39:08.473
[SPEAKER_00]: And then you're, so that kind of takes Newman out of needing to win anything.

01:39:10.253 --> 01:39:12.096
[SPEAKER_00]: because he has a big match at WrestleCain.

01:39:12.116 --> 01:39:13.858
[SPEAKER_00]: So he doesn't need to be in the main event with Suji.

01:39:14.739 --> 01:39:16.061
[SPEAKER_00]: Show to Umano, same thing.

01:39:16.101 --> 01:39:19.465
[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like they have another destination in mind for Show to Umano.

01:39:19.485 --> 01:39:21.548
[SPEAKER_00]: The dozen involved the world title at WrestleCain.

01:39:21.608 --> 01:39:23.790
[SPEAKER_00]: So, leave you with Wolf.

01:39:25.235 --> 01:39:34.717
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, but at the same time, you know, zacks in there, you might want to have newmen at least go to post block play to make him look like as big a deal as possible for us, right?

01:39:34.737 --> 01:39:43.339
[SPEAKER_00]: So you're starting to run out of spots for guys like Uemora or Gabe or Narita and you know, like only two of those guys can go through.

01:39:43.359 --> 01:39:49.400
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm kind of leaning part of me, leaning towards that saber and wolf.

01:39:50.696 --> 01:39:58.281
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, drawing on each other on the last night and like costing each other and then like as I think Matt mentioned them feuding.

01:40:00.322 --> 01:40:15.492
[SPEAKER_01]: Like I'm not I'm not discounting that at all because the idea that both of these guys who could easily win the tournament if they were in position now cost each other the tournament and that being the reason that they don't like each other.

01:40:15.512 --> 01:40:17.494
[SPEAKER_01]: I can get behind that.

01:40:18.646 --> 01:40:25.891
[SPEAKER_00]: And Nick says to Kesha and Sisi would both be lame duck finalists, which is why I think the final says a good chance of being a B-block rematch, fair point.

01:40:26.771 --> 01:40:29.733
[SPEAKER_00]: And Brad also says very few off-night wrestlers this year.

01:40:29.853 --> 01:40:34.436
[SPEAKER_00]: Another couple, you know, but yeah, and he says I like that we can't tell easily who's going to take it all.

01:40:34.736 --> 01:40:37.878
[SPEAKER_00]: But at the end when the final match happens, we'll also say we should have seen the winner coming.

01:40:40.519 --> 01:40:43.762
[SPEAKER_00]: Wolf and a few with TMDK sounds better than this house of torture feud.

01:40:43.782 --> 01:40:44.323
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, true.

01:40:44.523 --> 01:40:54.512
[SPEAKER_00]: I, you know, it's just, they're going to need to load up wrestle kingdom because they don't have the tana hashy retirement thing there.

01:40:54.632 --> 01:40:57.754
[SPEAKER_00]: So they, that needs to be a loaded show.

01:40:58.795 --> 01:41:06.122
[SPEAKER_01]: And yes, you have you entirely ruled out the idea that you had a 3G faith of the night on wrestle kingdom.

01:41:09.022 --> 01:41:12.424
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it doesn't feel like there's any movement in that direction from NIDO.

01:41:13.925 --> 01:41:20.948
[SPEAKER_01]: Now that we are in business with cyber agent who will cyber fight who is, it's an interesting thought.

01:41:21.068 --> 01:41:22.629
[SPEAKER_00]: I just don't, I don't know.

01:41:22.649 --> 01:41:28.192
[SPEAKER_01]: I wanted to throw that out there now, just to kind of like, you talk about what's the big rest looking to match you can do?

01:41:28.232 --> 01:41:29.973
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's you know the suit you ever did, NIDO.

01:41:30.113 --> 01:41:31.714
[SPEAKER_00]: It all want to cyber agent.

01:41:32.566 --> 01:41:34.708
[SPEAKER_00]: is not the only person that has to be on board with those.

01:41:34.868 --> 01:41:42.594
[SPEAKER_01]: I understand that, but if not tedious on you who was the people that, or I mean, boost your road, who wasn't, who were the people who weren't behind it in the past.

01:41:43.335 --> 01:41:44.616
[SPEAKER_01]: But not in the picture anymore.

01:41:45.136 --> 01:41:53.122
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's the only reason I bring that up is that I, in the back of my head, have not ruled out Suji versus NATO at rest of China.

01:41:54.263 --> 01:41:56.205
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and all the jets for not.

01:41:56.725 --> 01:41:58.827
[SPEAKER_00]: And if you've seen NATO in NOAA,

01:41:59.722 --> 01:42:00.442
[SPEAKER_01]: That's a bad idea.

01:42:00.623 --> 01:42:02.904
[SPEAKER_00]: The time to do it was three years ago.

01:42:03.865 --> 01:42:06.546
[SPEAKER_01]: Time to do it before the Abushi Batch where he destroyed it.

01:42:07.087 --> 01:42:07.787
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:42:07.907 --> 01:42:08.107
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:42:08.448 --> 01:42:09.208
[SPEAKER_00]: So there you go.

01:42:09.368 --> 01:42:13.671
[SPEAKER_00]: And and a turn is that's what's going to be Sonata's role in the tournament if he's still in the 50 percent.

01:42:13.931 --> 01:42:14.632
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, troll.

01:42:14.772 --> 01:42:16.493
[SPEAKER_00]: He's going to win some matches because he cheats.

01:42:16.713 --> 01:42:20.656
[SPEAKER_01]: He'll probably be three in fifth and he'll ruin the tournament for like

01:42:21.568 --> 01:42:23.931
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, and she can go to college.

01:42:24.291 --> 01:42:25.132
[SPEAKER_01]: He's a healer.

01:42:25.753 --> 01:42:26.794
[SPEAKER_01]: He's a healer run.

01:42:26.994 --> 01:42:28.275
[SPEAKER_00]: He's a heal Toroiano.

01:42:28.315 --> 01:42:32.680
[SPEAKER_00]: Now most of his matches will be a few minutes because that's all he's physically capable of.

01:42:33.141 --> 01:42:34.883
[SPEAKER_00]: And the land with some source of canary.

01:42:35.083 --> 01:42:36.585
[SPEAKER_00]: So I mean, I think that's his role.

01:42:36.945 --> 01:42:40.669
[SPEAKER_00]: And because of the house, the torture aspect of it, he could win or lose any night.

01:42:41.730 --> 01:42:42.311
[SPEAKER_00]: So that.

01:42:43.775 --> 01:42:51.937
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a useful plot device to have a guy like that because you can put him over people without hurting the guy he goes over because it'll just cheat to do it.

01:42:52.117 --> 01:42:52.597
[SPEAKER_00]: That's fine.

01:42:53.177 --> 01:42:59.679
[SPEAKER_00]: And you can have someone overcome that cheating and beat him at any time because you think if the if anybody gets their hands on him in a fair fight, they'd win.

01:43:00.419 --> 01:43:04.700
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's a useful plot device that's going to be synod as role is he's basically the heels are a young or no.

01:43:05.360 --> 01:43:06.001
[SPEAKER_01]: We got any more.

01:43:06.161 --> 01:43:07.321
[SPEAKER_01]: We got a more question to comment.

01:43:08.235 --> 01:43:09.175
[SPEAKER_00]: That's a good.

01:43:09.315 --> 01:43:11.496
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yes, a couple on home.

01:43:11.516 --> 01:43:17.597
[SPEAKER_00]: I wanted to bring up because the guy said the guy talked about home a little bit ago, and I wanted to bring that now that we're wrapping things up.

01:43:18.717 --> 01:43:25.319
[SPEAKER_00]: Tom walking on inspirational figure, and it is unfortunate that he isn't going to be able to wrestle anymore, but Brad mentions this.

01:43:25.599 --> 01:43:29.920
[SPEAKER_00]: He says a few months ago, I was watching a match that home was in with my dad who never saw it before.

01:43:30.300 --> 01:43:31.520
[SPEAKER_00]: He mentioned how bad he looked.

01:43:31.640 --> 01:43:38.465
[SPEAKER_00]: just I'm assuming he means just the movement the way he struggles to have much in the way coordination these days with that stuff.

01:43:39.925 --> 01:43:40.986
[SPEAKER_00]: But how stiff he is.

01:43:41.386 --> 01:43:46.730
[SPEAKER_00]: Brad says he mentioned how bad he looked and then I told him on the story and my dad was blown away he was still going.

01:43:47.090 --> 01:43:48.751
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, a lot of people have that reaction.

01:43:48.931 --> 01:43:49.052
[SPEAKER_00]: It's

01:43:49.952 --> 01:44:02.188
[SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely remarkable that the man was temporarily paralyzed and he was back in the ring wrestling and I think that is why he has maintained such good will with the crowd because the new Japan crowd knows exactly what he's been through.

01:44:03.206 --> 01:44:05.088
[SPEAKER_00]: And notes how amazing it is these there.

01:44:05.588 --> 01:44:09.812
[SPEAKER_00]: And Nick says, at home is matches in recent years a fascinated me because he obviously couldn't do much.

01:44:10.212 --> 01:44:16.338
[SPEAKER_00]: But you can tell the effort and fighting spirit were there, especially compared to effort from some younger guys, 100%.

01:44:16.899 --> 01:44:26.367
[SPEAKER_00]: And if you go back and it's on-world, thank goodness, some of his matches from past when he was in the G1 and he went over in this first G1.

01:44:27.613 --> 01:44:42.538
[SPEAKER_00]: But he could still work and he was still more mobile and he would come so close and then losing the end and then the next year he lost I think the first eight and then one on the last night.

01:44:43.995 --> 01:44:48.679
[SPEAKER_00]: And it might have gotten a bigger pop in the final state, just to see him finally do that.

01:44:48.719 --> 01:44:55.584
[SPEAKER_00]: So if you want to go back for a great home moment and don't forget, he and Makabe won the tag team tournament a couple years in a row there.

01:44:55.644 --> 01:44:56.225
[SPEAKER_00]: They were terrific.

01:44:56.625 --> 01:44:59.447
[SPEAKER_00]: And so there's there is some good home to stuff out there.

01:44:59.467 --> 01:45:05.432
[SPEAKER_00]: It hasn't been since he came back from his injury, but there's good home of stuff in the in the archives and JPW world.

01:45:06.329 --> 01:45:11.771
[SPEAKER_01]: So Stephen, I may stand like a combustion about the G1 that's here, but I'm not, I am looking forward to it.

01:45:11.931 --> 01:45:15.712
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm looking forward to the match with, I think the lineup are good, I think the matches are going to be good.

01:45:16.092 --> 01:45:19.853
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'll be looking forward to recapping this over the next five week with you.

01:45:20.253 --> 01:45:24.895
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm also really looking forward to meeting you for the first time in person this next weekend.

01:45:25.395 --> 01:45:31.677
[SPEAKER_01]: We will have a report of all of that next week on the show, talking about our live experience and everything else that happened on the show.

01:45:31.697 --> 01:45:33.017
[SPEAKER_01]: Because there won't be another G1,

01:45:34.978 --> 01:45:38.860
[SPEAKER_01]: show to recap until that Saturday afterwards.

01:45:38.960 --> 01:45:40.481
[SPEAKER_01]: So it'll be fun time.

01:45:40.501 --> 01:45:44.983
[SPEAKER_01]: But yes, Stephen, I will see you Saturday and it should be a grand old time.

01:45:45.803 --> 01:45:47.624
[SPEAKER_00]: Eddish Cago folks, it's going to be nice.

01:45:47.644 --> 01:45:52.246
[SPEAKER_00]: I also saw the weather after being 100 some degrees or now high of around 78 to 80.

01:45:52.266 --> 01:45:53.667
[SPEAKER_00]: So I was pretty nice to me.

01:45:53.767 --> 01:45:54.127
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm ready.

01:45:54.367 --> 01:45:54.927
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm here for it.

01:45:55.688 --> 01:45:57.789
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll be I'll be threatened hospitably.

01:45:58.849 --> 01:45:59.109
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

01:45:59.129 --> 01:46:01.111
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I want to thank everybody who has joined us here live.

01:46:01.332 --> 01:46:02.793
[SPEAKER_00]: We really appreciate all of you guys.

01:46:02.813 --> 01:46:04.975
[SPEAKER_00]: Your comments were terrific as always.

01:46:05.115 --> 01:46:11.902
[SPEAKER_00]: And we're grateful to anybody who spent time here with us live or if you watch this later as listen to it as a podcast.

01:46:11.942 --> 01:46:13.343
[SPEAKER_00]: However, you spend your time with us.

01:46:13.363 --> 01:46:14.424
[SPEAKER_00]: We're grateful for that time.

01:46:14.604 --> 01:46:15.065
[SPEAKER_00]: We thank you.

01:46:15.085 --> 01:46:16.226
[SPEAKER_00]: We know there's a lot going on.

01:46:16.706 --> 01:46:19.129
[SPEAKER_00]: And don't forget power bombshells.

01:46:19.149 --> 01:46:20.790
[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to be in Chicago with us.

01:46:20.890 --> 01:46:21.211
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

01:46:21.231 --> 01:46:22.392
[SPEAKER_00]: You're going to show the weekend brother.

01:46:23.112 --> 01:46:24.533
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I'm just saying don't forget about them.

01:46:24.573 --> 01:46:25.454
[SPEAKER_00]: They're out here too.

01:46:25.514 --> 01:46:30.896
[SPEAKER_00]: The dynamite show, all the great stuff on the fight game media network and we'll see how it goes.

01:46:31.017 --> 01:46:33.018
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, Brad, thanks.

01:46:33.038 --> 01:46:36.199
[SPEAKER_00]: They said have a great trip and get some time to power bombshells.

01:46:36.219 --> 01:46:37.080
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's going to happen.

01:46:37.100 --> 01:46:39.141
[SPEAKER_00]: I think we're, we're all going to converge at some points.

01:46:39.161 --> 01:46:41.582
[SPEAKER_00]: So fired up about that.

01:46:41.642 --> 01:46:45.324
[SPEAKER_00]: So with that in mind, we are going to sign off from here for Jeremy Feinstein.

01:46:45.444 --> 01:46:46.325
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm Stephen Conway.

01:46:46.465 --> 01:46:48.946
[SPEAKER_00]: This has been speaking of strong style looking forward next week.

01:46:49.206 --> 01:46:50.067
[SPEAKER_00]: We'll see you all real soon.