Sept. 18, 2025

Should Andrade Sign with NJPW? Plus Road to Destruction Review | Speaking of Strong Style

Should Andrade Sign with NJPW? Plus Road to Destruction Review | Speaking of Strong Style

Is the wrestling world about to get more ingobernable? Jeremy and Steven debate if Andrade El Idolo is a good fit for New Japan Pro-Wrestling. They also provide a full recap of the "Shinnichi Champion" and "Road to Destruction" shows and share a much-needed discussion on dealing with wrestling fatigue.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The road to destruction continued this week, and New Japan held a strange paper view before ahead of North Dakota Hokkaido.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The goal was to heat up the big matchups for destruction in Kobe on the 28th, and we'll look back at this week's cards to see if they did just that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Plus we'll preview a big night ahead for the Junior Heavyweight Division.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But Jeremy Findstone, I'm Stephen Conway, this is Speaking of Strong Style.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Welcome everyone to speaking of strong start.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We discussed the news, issues and events surrounding new Japan pro wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm Stephen Conway and with me, of course, Jeremy finds some going to bring in Jeremy in just a second.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We are contributors to the fight game media network.

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[SPEAKER_00]: uh... written for the website and uh... i have also uh... run my own uh... recently history uh... page called uh... ringside replay dot com and i bring this up germy because we have uh... new avenue for people to find the show in addition to our youtube show and our regular podcast feed we are also now proudly on the fight game media podcast feed as well so uh... if you are just hearing us of the first time we're thrilled welcome germy how are you feeling this week

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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel bonafide.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you feel bonafide?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel bonafide.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel bonafide.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it was a great feeling to be alongside the luminaries of Paul Fontaine and Gary Collins, Jeff Hawkins and such that are already on the feed.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Welcome everybody.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hi.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I am Jeremy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I am the cohost of the speaker stroke cell podcast in which.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We cover all things, New Japan, adjacent here, there, everywhere.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If there's a title somewhere, we'll talk about it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If there's a New Japan contract, it restarts somewhere.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll talk about it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, fair enough, and I look at it from a historical perspective, and you get some hot takes here too as well, of course.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so we're going to be speaking about the Sheneet Sheneet Champion.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to make sure I pronounce that right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is a talk show of a variety show that airs on NJPW world, New Japan streaming service called Sheneet Sheet Champion, and they had a special event as part of the celebration of the five year anniversary of that show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That took place a quarter can haul last week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There was a regular quote unquote, New Japan show a quarter can haul.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then they headed up for that tour of Hokkaido.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mentioned earlier.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And in Nabora Betsu, there was another strange main event there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we've got plenty to talk about this week, Jeremy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I, for me,

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[SPEAKER_00]: uh... there was a bit of a gap with all these shows and i i did manage to get in some uh... send i girls wash a little bit of the n one tournament that no ahead uh... so i've been keeping myself as a little cml as well uh... and uh... so i've been sampling other things around pro wrestling uh... before new japan really kicks off big there's not a lot of these shows going to be on n j p w world so gives me a little bit of time to catch up

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're a lucky guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I have a responsibility with fight game media this weekend with the AEW all out post show recap with Garrett Gonzalez that'll be airing on Saturday night.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I had to stay up on all the AEW stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then, you know, I got a couple other things that I got to take care of on the side.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So my whole free time there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But if you also like WWE, we also have a WWE Reciple loser.

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[SPEAKER_01]: recapture of Saturday night that's going to be host by Kila Cash and Paul Fontaine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's the cheap plug to get that out of the way within five minutes of the show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So Garrett doesn't get that out of us.

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[SPEAKER_01]: One of the content on the videos this weekend, Power Bomb show, I don't know if they're going early on Saturday or if they're going to do a recap on Sunday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: To me, they should probably do the hot dates.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The next morning, talk about everything that happened on their normal time slot, but I don't do their show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and I love their show and you should check it out whenever it is this weekend.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But when we talk about huge fan this week, the one caveat when you're all listening everybody is this was not a normal week of programming for New Japan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, it was definitely not.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mentioned that variety show anniversary special that had some strange matches with strange setups.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then they went a little outside of the box for Navora Betsu as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Collin is here, glad to see you, Collin.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Zach Manger, let's us know by the way, that this is Rice Crispy Streets Day.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Zach always let's us know what kind of weird day it is, what is devoted to it?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Rice Crispy Streets Day.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to write a picture about that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm more partial of a rice crispy like cereal that I am the rice crispy treats.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like the rice crispy cereals like my favorite cereal all the time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I love a tap crack on the pop.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It really, I would happen when you have a crisp.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was old before my time Jeremy and my favorite cereal is Kellogg's cornflakes with no added sugar.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I love the taste of.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There.

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[SPEAKER_01]: the frost inflate are great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know about the cornflate too sweet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, no, I just like plain, you know, that was my thing when I was a little kid.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I said, old before or before my time I've been informed.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We all end up being old before our time if you wait long enough.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Perna.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we did that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was watching the, you know, some New Japan wrestlers were in CMLL, Jeremy, of course, TJP, who has been part of the United Empire, Junior Tag Champion, and he and Templario have been teaming over in CMLL through Arena, Mexico, and, you know, they were planning the title for there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they're still doing some of that and the strong tag team titles just watched a title match that they had from a couple of weeks ago and terrific stuff TJP's really adapted well to the luchestile Yoda Susie's been over there in recent weeks anyway, not not this past week of course has been on tour, but although it was a little bit under the weather and didn't didn't wrestle one of the the nights of this the tour this week, but Yeah, they pulled him on the 17th I think

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And hopefully it's just a slide illness and not a serious injury, but watching this stuff from CMLL, Jeremy first of all, there is a steady new Japan presence on it, we're just with guest spots and things like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, for all this talk about, you know, WWE clearly the number one company in the world right now, just breaking in money or left and right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we're saying that they're trepying it falling into piles of cash.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, exactly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, the question is, who, what is the number two company in the world?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I actually realized that I don't think it's all that close.

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[SPEAKER_00]: CMS, oh, it's clearly the number two company in the world.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're doing 15,000 people every Friday night in Arena, Mexico, or so about 12 to 15,000.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They do a few thousand more on Sunday for their afternoon early evening shows geared more toward families.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They come back with a couple thousand more on Tuesday.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's just in Arena, Mexico.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then they also have Arena, Calacel.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They have Arena, Puebla.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And those buildings are getting pretty full out there to Guadalajara.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And just, I mean, as far as ticket sales go, see MLL, absolutely on fire right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're in the show right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the shows are terrific too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I recommend anybody looking for a little bit of a change of pace.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So literally, Bray takes a little while to get used to.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you just watch American or Japanese pro wrestling, it's a very different style.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But boy, it's enjoyable.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you can just see those people at Arena Mexico just having so much fun at these matches on Friday nights.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they put everything into that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And a great production, a beautiful set, they've really done well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a very old building at Arena Mexico, but Sam L. O. O. O. O. O. O. O. O. O. And they do a wonderful job making it look great for TV.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I recommend that it's something it's a change of pace.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Lucha, it arguably the most gulfed out over a clean out there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's interesting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Taiji Shimori, another one who was just out there by the way, just wrestling for them team with that some.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, if you're not wild with those, because you know, like you think about, like, good matcha matcha, double your mind, that would matcha, double your mind.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's really dope, but yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's not much better than a really good Lucha match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And there's not much worse than a bad one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That is a fair point.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That is a fair point.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Colin mentioned something here too is that you can catch a lot of that stuff on YouTube.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now they have paid tears.

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[SPEAKER_00]: CMLL does where you pay to see the Friday night shows and things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But they put a lot of stuff on their YouTube page.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you can see it because, as you mentioned, there's going to be a lot of people who are not going to be able to see Russell Polluse at this weekend.

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[SPEAKER_00]: As they get all that stuff ironed out with the new ESPN app and things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, I mean, I think you're changing big for WWE fans.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you're a die hard WWE fan, you'll pay $30 on a streaming app to watch that show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What up?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You will.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, there are a bunch of people that are out there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I saw my plan.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I would have to cancel my Disney Hulu ESPN plus bundle that I can't free through my phone plan in order to upgrade and bring in ESPN plus.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm already watching the AEW show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm already doing an AEW.

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[SPEAKER_01]: like podcast afterwards.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if I'm going to have time to watch it that night.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if I'm going to feel like I want to spend $30 to watch it after the fact.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That just me, but I have seen it's not exactly easy to get this show, but if you want to watch the show, you will find a way to watch the show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I also believe that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And also, New Japan news adjacent, of course, we found out that we'll ask for a recently had next surgery and we wish will.

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[SPEAKER_00]: One of the great foreign stars in New Japan history, as far as in ring workouts, we wish him nothing but the best in his recovery there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We hope that Will is able to come back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And one of my personal favorite wrestlers, in fact, to the point that my my girlfriend got me a cameo from him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I got a little birthday video message from Will a few years ago, which was a lot of fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, she got me a cameo and it was really great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll do the terrific job.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He, uh, she sent him some information about me as part of the cameo thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And as he's talking, he's walking through a hotel room and he kind of spins around his phone and over his shoulder is the Tokyo dome because of course my birthday is wrestling them day.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so he was just about to main event that against.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I believe it was Alcada that year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he was sitting in his Tokyo dome hotel room overlooking the dome itself.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he did his little cameo party, which is really cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I need a little gift from Ginger from me there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that was a nice day.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Dad, I hope he I hope he recovers fully.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know he's not really a new Japan wrestler anymore, although we love to see him back, but, you know, next surgery, there's no such thing as a minor next surgery and I don't think what he had would even be classified by anyone is minor.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we hope he just has the full recovery and is able to get back in the ring.

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[SPEAKER_01]: taking a lot of risks that, you know, have gotten him to this point, but medical technology in preparing her needed discs as long as the damage isn't too bad.

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[SPEAKER_01]: People can bounce back in unbelievable

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think he's going to come back better than ever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just, you know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, if he approaches this, like he approaches his wrestling career, he's going to knock it out of the park to cover you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to say hello to a couple of other people watching a slide here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Jeremy or hello, Jeremy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Glad you're with us.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maria, going to see Alicias.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hi, Maria.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Glad you're with us, too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure Fernando will be along soon, too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We usually have him around him around.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we've talked about the WWE PLEs and how they are,

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[SPEAKER_00]: going through a transition.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We had a paper view of our own this past week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And as far as WWE goes, I'm going to be busy watching Japanese wrestling this weekend, both New Japan and others.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So this one was one that you picked up, Jeremy, you ended up getting this Sanichi champion show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we have correspondents about the paper view.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we're going to tell you all about the Sanichi champion event and get this, Jeremy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll say this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The attendance

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[SPEAKER_00]: was higher than the regular New Japan Corican Hall show on Saturday.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So the Friday show, a week night show, a Friday night still a weekend night, you know, theoretically, but still people people came over there after work, 1500 and about a hundred more than would attend the next night.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So she needs to share a lot of women.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was aimed at the ladies in some ways.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're absolutely was.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This was a fun show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think I was sitting around a like Saturday afternoon and it was like, you know, if we're debuting on like the audio network, and we haven't even watched one of the shows, that's probably not great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Look, I was like, this isn't New Japan canon in the strict sense here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, no, no, this is like a loony tune version of New Japan.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Everybody is playing themselves, but there are aspects of it that are played up, exaggeratedly, like different than regular programs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let me get that back to this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and a lot of these matches sprang from conversations that have taken place on this variety show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they'll sit and interview people, Peter, from Yujuro Takahashi's,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I guess I'd rather his valet, I guess, as she had valet, she was just someone who accompanies what you have to think of as he will pay temp and she was, she paid one of his ladies.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There you go, there she played that part.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Mejo Abe has been on the show, of course, I was Taiichi's muse, his inspiration for so long.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you're going to have a muse or an inspiration, might as well be a Miss Universe contestant, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then, you know, if you have a host name,

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[SPEAKER_01]: is the oh email host name, it's me grooming.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You, me grooming, I couldn't.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, I was failing at this one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, I will do the thing and I still never got her name.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I still don't get her name.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And she was having the time of her life.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, oh, they would all hurt.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, just with her, shout.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Jeremy, we're going to get to your question in just a second because it's a legitimate one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to talk about this show here a little bit before we get into it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But that's a legitimate one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I do want to bring it up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we will talk about it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: As we move forward here, Jeremy Kentocobashi, one of the greatest of all time, was a part of this thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There were a few other weird items that took place.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I have it all here for you, buddy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, let's just get to it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's huge up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, so let's get to this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So this was, of course, September 12, she needs to champion event.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It opened with a six-man tag match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so it's Ketsuya Marashima, the young lion, teaming with Yoshi Hashie and Eugene Nagada.

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[SPEAKER_00]: which is an interesting matchup, our interesting team right away, and they faced Shomekato, another young lion, teaming with two members of the classic Great Bash heel group, Great Bash heel going through a bit of a renaissance on this tour here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're seeing Togi Makabe, Toroiano, and Tomoaki Homa, teaming with each other again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: uh... after uh... they were a unit way back uh... before chaos was even formed in fact uh... one of the key moments of that was during a feud with shinsuke Nakamura torillano turned on toki makabe and uh... went broke up great vashil and went with chaos and nakamura and uh... that led us to the group that just expanded this past year but

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[SPEAKER_00]: Makabe Yano and Honma have not teamed together until just recently, Yano and Makabe finally making up after all those years.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And this time we see Makabe Yano and Kato against Nagata Yoshihashi and Mirashima.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So with great mashyel sort of back together a little bit, what did this look like?

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[SPEAKER_01]: This was not much of a match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think at first they had Honma and Kajima

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[SPEAKER_01]: on the mic over the crowd, so like their commentary was playing to everybody, so they were reacting to the commentary of Hanna and Kajima rather than, you know, like the action in the match itself.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was a pretty simple match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was a set up for great match heel versus Tana Hashi later on, where they were just setting up the move for a great match heel, but the finish was pretty academic.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yoshi Hashi pinned Kato, and then we were off to the next match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So they actually had their voices going over the PA for the entire crowd and the wrestlers to hear for the first batch.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, well, okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they were they were definitely trying to get people like fired up for, you know, just.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The, the live show kind of thing, you know, with, like, we're talking to the ring, the might turn on, they had an interview segment in the ring later on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was definitely different than, you know, some of the stuff we see.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So the TV production aspect was a little bit different.

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[SPEAKER_01]: After that, we had the 10 men better for the whole.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You want to, you want to, well, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So let's get this straight here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This was a masked battle royal.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So everyone began the match masked, and you were eliminated when you were unmasked.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Correct?

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is correct.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Everybody came out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They all had their white mask with the red paint over the eyes and whatnot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Here's the funny thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They announced the name of everybody if they come out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So they're wearing masks and they're like here's great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, come on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Here's a guy here's ghetto.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Here's Matt's motto here's saying Jay here's Jado here's Tiger mask here's the car of Sato Robbie Eagles and Hartley Jats.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They literally told you everybody who was in it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Robbie Eagles has got a bandana around the outside of his mask.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hi, hi.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Tiger mask has a mask over his Tiger mask.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it was, it was, it would pay for laps, you know, like you knew Jack with who everybody was.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And honestly, I said in the end of probably going to end with Great O'Con, somehow in the, in the finish.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's exactly what happened, but we'll get to there to be.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it turned out, O'Con, yelling at all three of the young lions, Matt's motto, taking a guy in Jane J, because he wants to fight Matt's motto.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Eventually, he's saying J.E.L.s, I'm Matt Smoto, and the match kept underway, because obviously, he's not.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Again, no, John O'er gone first.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hartley, Jackson, Clemsoth, Matt Smoto, and then Eagles eliminated the guy while he's locking it up some mission.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is all like you take the mask off in the middle of the match, and so you can get distracted and are knocked down or whatever, but your mask is coming off and you're out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: uh, hardly then eliminate the Robbie Eagles while they're teaming up against Colin, Robbie shocked, hugged and understand, they they embrace them, then they're off doing that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, uh, tiger mask, uh, heartly jacked in, uh, Ricardo Sato and Granocal left.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sato removes uh, tiger mask outer mask to his disappointment while jats and bear hugged him, uh,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sato and Kant teamed up against Jackson.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sato stink faced Jackson.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And when I say you stink faced him, Sato wearing the turtleneck that cut off to the inside the boobs, it's nipples.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Although I believe that's cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I believe that it's called the Dickie.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, we're in the Dickie and then the bikini bottoms.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we and then he does the and then he does the stink face to heartly Jackson with the mask on and then granocon take the mask off and then he gets the full the full of stink face and this is where we're going.

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[SPEAKER_01]: at that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So now it's down to Great O'Con and Hartley Jatsin and this is where it got a little queer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, you know, I saw those like get down on the ground and like embrace it and like you want to walk up into my crotch kind of thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So this is a DDT guy, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well he works for everybody.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He works for a dozen different promotions over the course of a year, so it does, but maybe known more for the comedy wrestling than anything else these days.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, kind of, Kant thought he won with Sonotop and Red Shoes, who's wearing a mask, the entire comment was like, no, you have to take the mask off to win.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What are we doing here?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Kant got mad, Chase Red Shoes around, Sonotop had hit an empty gurry on Kant, Kant falls down into his, in the Sonotop's crotch, started to get to the mask off.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He went, he now gets to produce an episode of She Need to Jump in.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, well there you go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know that was two minutes of your life you're never getting back

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, for the viewers of Shinichi Champion, I'm sure that'll make a big difference to them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So after that, we had an eight-man tag, and this was Desperado, Hiroshi Tanahashi, Master Watto, and both in Oleg, and they were facing House of Torture, and this is the most quote unquote normal New Japan Mash-A.

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[SPEAKER_00]: House of Torture versus the Baby Faces, House of Torture is represented by Dictogo, Evel, Rennerita, and Yoshinobu kind of Maro with Don Fale at Ringside, but more importantly,

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[SPEAKER_00]: one of the very greatest canticobasci was on the commentary at the time and got it all there showed up for the match cool i mean i'm here for anything canticobasci does it's fine with me this is seriously one of my all-time favorite wrestlers along with masala i'm like what the okay sure it's better fact behind me uh let's see right there that is his autograph and burning the behind me is uh his autograph on my wall behind me this is uh one of the

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[SPEAKER_01]: given the workload that Tonahashi had this weekend and everything going on, you'll be shocked to know that the video package and they before and after the bell stuff going on in the match was longer than the match itself.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is all set up for Hontai Feebs and Gooding Desk being water not getting along with each other.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They had a hostile tag.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Kenta ended up getting involved to dispatch house and torture outside before Tana Hoshi was able to submit a dick toga with the half crab.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Fund for what it was not, you know, like you want to see what Kenta Kamaoshi get involved in a match and have a fun one to go around.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sounds great to me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: A Kenakobashi's known for a lot of things, you know, the burning hammer was a move that he pioneered, but he was also known for his chops.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the heels in this match were tripping over each other, trying to get into a position to take a shot from Kenakobashi.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Evil managed, I think, who else got in there?

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[SPEAKER_00]: uh, kind of our way I think it was or toe go or something like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They that several members of the house of torture got chopped by uh, Kentico Bashi and it's one of those things where it's like taking a stone cold stunner if you can, you got to do it right after that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We had a match now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We had this match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was the handsome match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And these are the people that present this show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I mentioned Peter and Mihuaabe and some of the guests and things that this shows for the ladies.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And this is one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is the handsome Rambo, where the men who have been pointed out is being particularly handsome by these female guests were all thrown into a Rambo match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And of course, we laughed about the wording of this as they played a little bit of a rib.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that they said all of these handsome men and show will be in this match this week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So tell us about this one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This was not the full listing of people in the match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We ended up getting more and there was a video package in which Peter and we'll let for the folks that are listening to us.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's read off the people who are announced.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was about I was up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There I was setting everything up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can't always see where Megumi and Peter were all listing off their names.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So they start out and Megumi have like yo.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and then herromos listed as the next person in the match, then we get Elfantazmo, a heater chooses show, straight up in the video package, macatory also picked, then picked by Megumi, and then finally, Gabe Kid is picked into the match as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Keep kid, all right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So the hard job he is, the heartthrob that he is, it's the final entrance that was not in the advertising.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we start with this match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the time bomb music comes out and Haromu comes out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But Haromu's gone full bugged bunny shem with his outfit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's got eyelashes and dark eyeshadow and lip gloss and he's wearing like his whole outfit, but he's all made up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and totally feminine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, he's just coming out and he's playing it up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's walking around the ring, women are going mad and they're just like, they're screaming and yelling and they're like, this is the greatest thing they've ever seen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Eventually, he goes right up to Aaron Wolff and starts freaking him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Jeff, like, grinding up on him and Aaron Wolff is just, he's just trying to keep a straight face for this thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's just like, God help me get the camera off me,

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[SPEAKER_01]: So he was next.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He was wearing one of those like schemeaths that you see the eyes on the mouth, like the house of torture or inclined to wear when they're like jumping people.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's out there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's like, I refuse all of this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I am not doing any of it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You all can go to hell.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I am not, we're not doing any walks straight to the back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: the net person out is show and he grabs the or is yo and he grabs show back out and show it's just like run it and he can't even his shirt clicked on and he's trying to get his shirt back on and then uh yo is wearing his nurses outfit from the Shanichi champion show so he's already like in his whatever role that he does on the show as the nurse and he's got a status scope and

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[SPEAKER_01]: on shot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we're on the other side of the ring.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he's just like, okay, sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, all right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Y'all could have next.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He comes out and you get a bottle of hockey and give it to

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[SPEAKER_01]: off the side of the ring.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is what we're working with here, guys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: ELP is next.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He does every move that he can and then he puts his hand under his chin as if he's like a pretty little princess.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Every time he does one of his acrobatic moves.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So he's trying to show off his hand some of this

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, y'all still actually manages to eliminate heromal when heromone ELP are doing they're saying in ELP dodges and then kid come out net so they're keeping it pretty simple like two or three people in the ring at a time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: When kid comes out, he plays up the hand some bit with ELP.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They pose in the ring and like arm and arm.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's like, what's happening here?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then ELP yells at Yosena to avoid hitting the face when they're punching each other.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Kitten the ELP to their own a bit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they kid at LMX ELP.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Kid is about to eliminate Yosena when Shingo comes out as the surprise final entrance goes straight for kid

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then y'all that I wanted to wrap up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, there you have it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, okay, so they tried to do a little bit of preparation for destruction in Kobe by having Shingo come out in attack the champion that he's going to be challenging in destruction in Kobe.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll see Shingo to go against Gabe Kid on 90% non-cent 2% Dory Florida.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, Colin mentioned, he says, I am so glad I didn't watch this show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It sounds got awful.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, do we have a moment of it?

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is sounding like it's not the best thing in the world.

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[SPEAKER_00]: However, I have heard that the main event of this show that we're about to get to right now is one of the better new Japan matches of 2025.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's what that is the word that I got on this one, that the main event was fantastic.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, tell us about that, please.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, there was a skit where, uh, first where Yolthol is an ill at the hospital and Machimae has the imps of the surgeon and can't shave him in the surgeon and he can't go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then 10 gone like a hero like for a venturing doctor comes in and saves the day.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then they do the whole skit set of the right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This had to happen before we get to this main event because I feel like I'm not doing my duty

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[SPEAKER_01]: What the great anatomy style segment in the middle of the show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we got the generation crash match with was to Gucci, Tahichi, a she and that's Saber Jr.

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[SPEAKER_01]: As the older generation versus the younger generation, a showed it, you know, you know, we were real, hey, oh, Ewa and Kosei.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we were

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[SPEAKER_01]: Bougida, we'll not stand on the apron alongside Honda.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you already see a fracturing in storyline in which a while it's is our tinguist of best.

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[SPEAKER_01]: OE1DAC are wrestling chain wrestling y'all, they style.

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[SPEAKER_01]: food you'd like to get your next to Gucci is going great with food you'd have there chain wrestling fantastically.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They switch out a sheet in food you'd are next.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a chop battle that goes between the two of the backwaves you think.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If the sheet takes it's in the dishes out much worse on food you'd have.

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[SPEAKER_01]: After that, Taichi ends up into the show and he just starts kicking food you'd have to death.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Zack times in and kind of stops the Taichi bit down, but uh,

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[SPEAKER_01]: start his own kind of beating up of Fujuna and just kind of a giving him the what four which often uppercuts.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Fujuna and oil would then double team exact as oil was coming in here of like, no, we're not, we're not doing that guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Zack ends up in the young corner and Fujuna Slap showed it in the face for for his tag and these two will click they're going to kill each other.

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[SPEAKER_01]: like in one of the show to like give me the tag.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Give me the tag.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Give me the tag.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Come on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can come on to hand it out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Food is ready to cook up and it will wall up in the face.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then you're like duck's out of there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And uh...

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[SPEAKER_01]: and that was that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Fujida then shows you off the floor.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Shota and Zach are back in there now it's shades of their G1 match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: To Gucci, shave the pin and then you get it and Zach are in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: These guys go for a while and it's really great stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: After that Tahichi and New York are next and that turned to do a bit of a party match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Shota tags in and he and Tahichi go out of for a bit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We then get OE1, a shee and

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is good stuff, culminating to the German soup up to our shee and then jumped started by fidgeted a dropkick.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That saved the pen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now we end up with OUI, NUIA with dual commissions on a shee and back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Zach recovered and cleaned house with Tahichi back to Gucci backing up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And she is at start to beat down OUA.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And she and OUA again with OUA in the advantage of this time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And she e-powers out, but e-to-soup clubs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Taichi tries to save, but e-to-soup clubs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And she e-to wear it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Taichi hit an empty gary on OUA and get OUA into the black Memphis still position.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So she can hit a knockout blown, e-to OUA for the brainbuster, for the 1, 2,

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[SPEAKER_01]: over the place, everything had deliberate like matchups and they set the groundwork for a lot of where these guys stand with each other for the next month because they're very close to

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, all around just a rave reviews for that match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Just people really loved it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No one you look at who's in it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It makes a lot of sense.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There are a lot of tremendous workers in that one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm going to at least that show after doing a lot of silliness and a lot of comedy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sounds like that was entertaining as it was.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sounds like everybody enjoyed this show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then they put on an absolute barn burner of a match to finish it off.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's a pretty nice way to spend an evening at Coracone.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, there's been a little bit of time, everybody kind of jaw-jacking, but all eight people were around the ring and in the ring for a considerable amount of time after this match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So definitely, extra credit to watch, and if they're not resimenting this, what happened on this show, all like a typical New Japan show that you don't have to pay for, I think they're making a mistake.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I want before we get to the Corquant Hall show the regular one back on New Japan style shows and not this anniversary show for the variety program.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I wanted to mention something that Jeremy asked a little bit earlier because I think it's something we've discussed in the last few weeks here Jeremy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Since I've been a Jeremy or is writing this, I've been a wrestling fan my whole life.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going through my whole life.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going through burnout as bad as I ever have any advice.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He says I have not been watching lately.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He mentions these over 40.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So someone who's probably been watching wrestling a hell of a long time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But he said that he's going through a bit of burnout right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we've talked about this a little bit right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm taking a break from United States based wrestling right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like WWE isn't quite speaking to me at the moment and not that I think it's awful, not that I think it's all going to hell or going down.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He'll, it's just not speaking to me right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just not interested in watching it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I see a lot of their TV and it just doesn't feel like a whole lot's happening.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's matches happening, but it just doesn't feel like there's much there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: AEW has almost the opposite problem that there's 2,000 things happening,

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[SPEAKER_00]: happening and I don't think they have any real stars and I just don't find the booking compelling it all and I've taken a break from it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, I asked Jeremy here in the chat though, this is that you aren't enjoying what you're seeing is it too much to watch because one of the things is if you're a completeist, you're in big trouble because it's just too much programming to follow everything and that can lead to burnout in and of itself even if you like what you're watching.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I guess my advice would be at this point go ahead and take a break if you need to take a break if it is we watch wrestling because you enjoy it because it's fun to follow the stories and the characters and watch these athletes do amazing things if that's not bringing you joy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's okay to take a break from, you know, honestly is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And or pair it down, one of the things I did was I'm just going to take a break.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's happened to me before, by the way, with this, where WWE or F, this, it's been over the years and things just wasn't doing things for me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just wasn't into it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I took a few months off and almost always something brings me back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: With this right now, I am really enjoying as much as anything.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Start them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just think they're having a really good run right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Marty Gold just had a really good tournament.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I have paired it down to just watching the stuff that I'm enjoying.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mentioned CML, the Friday night shows on CML.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's okay to dink and dunk a little bit, Jeremy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And just watch a little bit of this, a little bit of that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Find something that is

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[SPEAKER_00]: That brings you joy that makes you just think, Oh, this is fun again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I have fun watching this because sometimes with all this programming and the sheer volume of shows.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you are someone who's a completeist, it can overwhelm you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it starts to feel like work instead of fun, like I got to watch three hours, you know, I've spanked down and then two and a half hours of raw on the, you know, and you end up getting stressed out that you aren't current on all this stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's okay to take a break.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's okay to just find something that you enjoy and just catch a little bit of it in there and you can put pressure on yourself to see so much.

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[SPEAKER_00]: that it can take away your enjoyment of it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I just think it's okay to take a step back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And because if you get to a point where this thing that has been a hobby of yours and it's fun, it starts to feel like homework.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, then don't be afraid to dial back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They'll still be here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: These companies will still be there when you get back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's okay to refresh yourself.

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[SPEAKER_01]: When we were all younger,

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[SPEAKER_01]: There wasn't nearly the amount of wrestling product at our disposal, nearly 24, 7.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We were in a situation of

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my gosh.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If I could just watch wrestling all the time, it would be like a dream come true, but too much of something that you love, it's not always a good thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you absolutely are getting burnt out hell.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm burnt out on like pro wrestling as a whole right now, but it

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, there are times where I'm just I'm consuming piles and piles and piles of comments and then I can burn myself out and then I like put it away for a while or I'll go like crazy on a video game and then I'll burn myself and like put it away for a while.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But the issue for me that like I can emphasize to the other people is like, I've taken on responsibility as like a content creator.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So like I literally have to do this as a job.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No one else has to do this as a job.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Jeremy, if you wanna like take off for three weeks and not watch the product or three months and join us in like November or right before Russell Kingdom, will still be here and what we have you when you come back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: like the the idea that you are like shackled to this product and you're not a true fan if you have to bounce out for a while like that's a false premise like you need to like read the room for yourself and just be like if this is it doing for you and you need to like turn the TV off

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[SPEAKER_01]: before the main event is on like I did that last night on time I I do that every week on time I don't think I've made it through an episode of dynamite on a Wednesday night granted it ended like seven o'clock at night at my time and I'm getting at the three a.m.

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[SPEAKER_01]: on my time so like at the end of my day it's literally like I am gonna close my eyes and go to sleep after this

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I'm also, I don't owe this show or owe anybody the responsibility of making sure that I watch dynamite denied it at air or watching any of these new Japan shows like the moment that it ends.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not getting up at two AM in the morning and watching this stuff live.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sometimes I'm already up and I'm like, well, I'm already up, I might as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But it's just one of those you need to find in a world that constantly is asking and begging and advertising for your attention, for your money, for your span, for anything you have, you are able to make that control of what you choose.

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[SPEAKER_01]: to dedicate your attention to.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And a pro wrestling isn't it right now?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Trust me, I get it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There a lot of the stuff going on, pro wrestling that's making it very easy for me to be like, you know, I'll see you in a couple of months, guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and I'll say this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Jeremy says that the stupid stuff is driving me crazy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It takes me out of it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, that's very fair.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's very fair.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's a lot of stuff like that for me too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And here's a little bit of advice that

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mentioned taking a break from the stuff that's not bringing you joy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe not take a break from wrestling, but how about because everything is available now somewhere.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you have peacock, they have the archives.

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[SPEAKER_00]: For me, sometimes I need to go back in touch base with the wrestling I fell in love with.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So when I get frustrated, I have been talking about how I'll, I'm going back and just watching all these shows from the same week as it goes on, world class, mid-Atlantic and mid-South because they have the archives on the on Peacock from 1983, 1984, 85.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's kind of when I started really falling in love with wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_00]: When I get frustrated, I'll go back and watch the stuff I fell in love.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll go back and watch World Championship Wrestling from 1986 as they're building the Great American Bash tour.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll go back and watch 1983, our 84 mid-South when the Midnight Express revolutionized everything with the Rock and Roll Express and the junkyard dog and butch read or feuding and Bill Watts is to, you know,

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[SPEAKER_00]: the Von Erickson, the freebirds.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is the stuff that when I would look at the wrestling magazine that the grocery store, while mom was shopping, that I would just make this, this is the coolest thing in the world that was a little, I was a little kid.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not going to say that I'm sitting there in my living room feeling like I'm, you know, eight or nine years old again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not quite that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I can kind of get back into, oh yeah, this is what I love about this time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is why I fell in love with this in the first place.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, maybe go back to that and touch base again with the old stuff that you fell in love with.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then like I mentioned, taking

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[SPEAKER_00]: take a little thinking back watch a big show you know something that was something that a company puts all their might into just watch one of the big one of the bigies and then see if it grabs your attention again and gets a little momentum up for you sometimes weekly television can be a slog for the companies as well it's not easy to fill that much airtime so maybe just pick a big event

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[SPEAKER_00]: where you know all their eggs are in that basket and watch that and just saying oh yeah all right when we build up to something and it hits then this is enjoyable again it can get your momentum back it's a little advice right there maybe touch base with what made you fall in love with the first place the soldier held a drug

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[SPEAKER_00]: And right now, Colin mentions the same thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He said, I'm the same regarding DDT, start him, haven't watched any of their shows and ages.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he said, but his favorites right now are some of the smaller women's companies, marvelous, send-i girls, both of those are doing terrific stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Marigold and TJPW.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So Colin's definitely getting his money's worth out of his Russell Universe subscription, and that's terrific.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you know, you just...

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's a lot of good stuff out there, but you gotta find something that works for you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And CMLL does that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Just brings joy back and say, you just watch these tourists and things that are watching Glutcher for the first time, just be like, wow, look what that guy just did.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And sometimes I see so many Topic on Hilos, I forget they're really impressive.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then you watch other people react to them and you just like, oh yeah, oh yeah, that's right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is actually really cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And not everybody is seeing 10,000 of them, so help me anyway.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, so should we move on to the cork and haul shows for this week?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I went to your buddy all the way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, we're going to move through these a little quick because there's a little bit of bill going to destruction and co-bay, but there's not a whole lot to it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: At cork and haul on September 13th, I mentioned a little bit underneath the attendance.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Actually, not not even a hundred a little bit less than that, but still less than what you need to champion Drew.

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[SPEAKER_00]: A very, very simple, very simple.

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[SPEAKER_00]: bag of cortical and haul, the opening we got the time limit draw for the young wines, Matsumoto and Zanjay still haven't had a decision between the two of them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they're up into the teens now, as far as time limit draws go as the tour has progressed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mentioned great bash shield, teaming up here again with Tiger Mask, Makabe and Homo, teaming with Tiger Mask to face Marashima, Yasada and Katso, so that's the young lion, Matsumoto and Jay are the newest young lions.

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[SPEAKER_00]: These are some of the more experienced ones.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This match was nothing except worth it for Chris Charlton's story about Heroic Egoato being told by a Jewish and Thunderliger and that your excursion is not going to be in Mexico after all Heroic E. We're going to send you to Africa.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I forgot about the store and and I was I was like are you kidding me and Liger and Tiger apparently sold this to the point that hero can go to told his parents that I'm not going to Mexico after all they're going to send me to get his shot for

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you got to go get all your shot and he came into the doctor to get all of his shots and that's when they told them no, you're just going to see him out Well, so and Colin passing was this show on world.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This one was on NJPW world.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This one was so they had English The head English And Japanese commentary the next show only had Japanese commentary.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah Chris Charlton was there with the L.P on commentary for this one So L.P was on something on this show man

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he was pretty mellow.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He was, he was, he was, she was.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He was.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, that, that, nothing that it was just, you know, your basic, the, the regular roster guys beat the, the young lines in that one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, after that, we had both in Umano and Uemura and the story they're telling us that Uemano and Uemura are teaming more and more often.

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[SPEAKER_00]: uh... and they're facing house torture here in dictogo down filet and evil you year one with an arm bar on dictogo it was fine but no real plot point on this one just a six man tag any thoughts on these early matches here when we just keep not really other than like old no a try to flam following

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and that's what they're building to for their never open weight matches that clearly Bolton is going to do something very strong and very impressive on Don Folley, you know, once they get to get to.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they can slam, fall a shoulder to the ground.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll get the one two three.

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[SPEAKER_00]: After that, we had the war dogs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is Finley, Gabe Kid, ghetto, and Taijiishi Mori against Dikinagai, Hiromotaka Hashishin, Katakagi, and Yoda Suji.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You could tell by Dikinagai's appearance in this match who was gonna take the loss in this one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Not bad, not great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Again, these do have some energy here to them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Usually the unaffiliated crew and the war dogs at least bring a little bit of intensity to their stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're trying, again, to put some steam on match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sing a Takagi Gabe kid, global title match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So there was a little bit of energy to this one here for the, probably the first time in the show that the guys were really actually working part.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you don't, myth-bimly until you don't see him very often.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But when he's back, he's definitely a shot in the arm for the entire promotion.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I got to give him this credit for that one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: After that, we're building the tag team title match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's Clark Conner's Oscar and Utahites.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So the knockout brothers facing Tahiti, Takamichi Noko and Tomahiro Ishichi.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Again, not bad.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Utah ice in particular, not doing a lot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We've seen him do more as young lions.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So they are establishing the brawling part of his persona, and they're certainly holding back for that tag match in Kobe.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're not doing a ton.

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[SPEAKER_00]: most of what you do is doing is kicking punch right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We know it has a lot more than that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think he will in the title match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But for right now, they're just trying to establish these two are punks on the come up and they are trying to get under the skin of the veteran tag team champions.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the finish course was the the KOB, which is where

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, ice kicks a man in the back of the head when he is up for the tombstone pile driver and Oscar, then connects with the pile driver sort of a bang bang type of move to hit that on Takamichi Noko knockout brother's been winning their matches like this building up just kind of showing everybody that this is the finishing move this is what Tahichi and Ishii have to avoid what is what is you know keep yelling bomb a clot

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[SPEAKER_00]: I can't tell.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's got a mouthpiece.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think I'm clear enough when I'm saying that I think you know, I have unbelievable charisma in that rate, like they are building these guys up incredibly well, and I'm legitimately worried that they're not going to get the tag titles, at their first shot because they're working so hard to get them over anyway.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You guys are great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to just make them, make them a focus right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm curious to see what they do in a longer tag match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They just haven't shown a lot lately by design.

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[SPEAKER_00]: These are preview tags.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're not supposed to bring out the entire bag of tricks yet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That will come out in Kobe, so I'm curious because I know they've been holding back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that they're going to surprise the people.

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[SPEAKER_00]: After that, we had a 10-man tag.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was Dokey, Rennerita, Sonata Show, Yuzuro Takahashi, so more of the house structure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Against TMDK, and this has been a eight or 10-man tag at the top of just about all of these road to Kobe cards.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This one ended up with Rennerita winning with a Hell's Geotene on, I believe it was on,

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[SPEAKER_00]: It might have been, I think it was Hartley Jackson that ended up taking the fall over there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But either way, it was a Narita getting the win and then there was a beat down on Zach Saber Junior after Eagles and Fujita who are challenging Doki and show, they took a but whipping afterwards as well, so putting heat on that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Narita needs to come out looking strong on this tour running up to Kobe because he's just with the way he has been booked.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not talking about it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: A commentary on him is a pro wrestler.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he's very talented.

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[SPEAKER_00]: His character needs that build up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He pinsack in the G1.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But after that wasn't, I don't think of the Nureta had all that great of a G1 because it's kind of hamstrung by the house of torture stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he needs to look as good as possible because I think at the moment he's one of the weaker world title challenges and he needs to look strong going into Kobe and they try to do that here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I legitimately forgot until you reminded me, you've had weaker challengers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I legitimately forgot who's challenging.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I want you to look at straight towards Takeshi on the 13th of October.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that will go on me, I think.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not sure if they've done a terrible job building Renderino or treating him like a wave duck.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, title contender, but I have already looked past him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, yeah, and it's important that match, King of Pro Wrestling is when to catch to get this title match, and that's in mid-October.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And destruction and co-bays are the very end of September, September 28th.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So there's only a couple of weeks between those two shows where you used to longer distances between major shows, and this time we're getting something a lot tighter.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we'll see how that pans out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, it doesn't feel like there's a lot of steam on the Rita, so they're trying to do that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then the main event was the never open-weight six-man tag team titles on the line.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was a title match but didn't feel like one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now I'll explain in a second.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was Master Watson, Toruyano, and Yo, facing Desperado Hirosh, Tanahashi, and Reece Gaitaguchi.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This felt more like a preview tag for Desperado versus Yo than a did a title match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It just didn't seem like the trio's title was- I don't like the preview matches.

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[SPEAKER_01]: A little bit of Yahuato and Tanahashi.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I suppose, although I don't, I don't think anybody really thinks of that as a major one, except maybe Wato, who understands that it's a big deal that had FaceTime Hashie one on one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But this wasn't much.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There wasn't much to it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was okay, Wato defeated Taguchi with the Vindovall and it just felt like a preview tag.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Did not feel like a main event, didn't feel like a title match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to give death for auto credit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's one guy that seemed to be working pretty hard on every show that he was on this weekend, far greater than some of the people that he was in the wrong way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and you know, we've talked about before that we feel like Desperado sometimes has been the MVP of New Japan pro wrestling as a whole in large chunks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Certainly, Godo had his run earlier this year and that is not to be ignored, of course.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But there have been stretches where Desface kind of carried the company.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just as far as maintaining some interest in there and he's doing everything he can right now with a rather depleted cover.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's just doing he is being a company man and just every match he's in he's giving it everything you've got and he may not be a junior heavyweight forever even though he walks to be there's a lot of guys that just want to stay at the junior heavyweight level but guys like

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just be a guy on the heavyweight, on the heavyweight part of this New Japan roster.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This again, that's again, nothing annoys me more than just like, here's the guy that's great at what he does.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He should stop.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think I hear you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just one of those like, somebody's good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So does somebody's a great junior heavyweight.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, make him a heavyweight.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's telling you what he does.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He wasn't really a great junior heavyweight.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's been a great junior headweight for the last five years.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I'm talking.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just, we're carrying the

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[SPEAKER_01]: There are plenty of junior heavyweight coming up and who's there and who.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Huge enough.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We got all these young lions coming up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, you still got Doki in there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's okay if Taka Hashi never wants to go up like he's going to be there as well, you know, like, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We've seen this and we're almost death brought out a very, very bit star in my opinion, and they may ask more of him one day.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not saying he should, I'm saying they may ask more of him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's talk to matches already.

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[SPEAKER_00]: May an event.

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[SPEAKER_00]: In fact, we're going to preview some of that here in a little while, but

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[SPEAKER_00]: After that Corrican Hall show, they headed up to Hokkaido.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is the tour they do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They did one last year, by the way, they did some of these towns anyway, including the Board of Betsu, which has a connection to Toro Yano and Yano was the focus on this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Worth mentioning, by the way, that in that match with

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[SPEAKER_00]: In the match there with Tana Hashi got a little bit of Yano as the heel Yano.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He beat down Tana Hashi afterwards, hit him with chairs, drug him out of the ring.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we saw a little that great-bash heel version of Toreano.

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[SPEAKER_00]: When they bent in the board of bets, too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We got a much bigger sampling of that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So first of all, this one was up in on the coast up in Hokkaido and about a thousand people at the show, which is down about 20% from the same town last year for the destruction and co-baked tour.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we can go a little bit of apples apples right that it was the same tour, same down, and about 20% down, which makes me worried a little bit for what destruction of Kobe is going to be like they have 4,500 for destruction of Kobe last year, see if they get to that number again, I'm kind of thinking it's going to be a tougher go this time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We started off with the Rambo.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And this was mostly young lions earlier in this one, and they wrestled each other and paired off and did a lot of spots with one another until we got house torture coming in.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it seemed like evil, folly, and was a dictogo and all that, they all came into once.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The guys were coming out again, Royal Rumble style, every so often, one more guy came in.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But then just house torture is kind of decided to all come in at one time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and through all the young lions out cleared house, not that stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they were running the roost until Bolton came in, did some spots with the Falei again, trying to build their match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They ended up eliminating each other.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Late in the match, it's down to Uemura, Shota Umano, they managed to, the heels managed to get Uemura out with a little bit of trickery and illegal help, but Shota managed to tap out Dictogo to get the victory.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so that was the Noroboribetsu Rambo match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: to not much to add to it, it was not as lively masked Rambo match that we had a couple days before, but Rambo's Rambo for the eye to see for all the eyes to see for the eyes we get.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, whatever.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, after that, Yoda Suji was removed from this show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was supposed to be a six-man tag next, but instead, we instead of getting Finlay, Gabe Kid, and ghetto,

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[SPEAKER_00]: against the guy shingo and sushi we got a straight tag match get it was on the outside it was Gabe kid and family against the guy and shingo.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Finlay beat in the guy with the power bomb it was fine again and kid and shingo were trying really hard and working really hard at all these shows to try to get people interested in that global title match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They absolutely are.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I got to give them credit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're doing

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[SPEAKER_01]: a lot with very little lot of showdowns and matches and having had a whole lot of faith time with each other, but you know, they're they're on fifth year trying to go with it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And after that, we got another one of those previews for the tag match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it was Yuto Ice, Ishimori, this time teaming with Oscar, and Yuto Ice against Taichi, Takumi Shinoko and Ishii, and Kobi, finish on Taka again, basically the same idea.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're going to try to make the knockout brothers look like as credible a challenger's

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know you didn't care for long long post match brawl here too long went too long.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, just needed to tighten that up a little bit long post match brawl on this one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: After that, we had the TMDK House torture 10 man tag, I mentioned they've been doing this every single night and they'll continue to do it every single night of this tour.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This time it was a low blow and they used the U-drows pit cane on Hartley Jackson, Hell's Giateen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Just like the knockout brothers need the push going into this match mentioned Rennery to once again, he gets the pinfall here trying to look as strong as possible to challenge Zach Saber Jr.

01:00:16.425 --> 01:00:21.909
[SPEAKER_01]: Got to keep doing it, got to keep building these guys up and hopefully, you know what?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Here's the thing, Rennery to may feel like an afterthought.

01:00:26.331 --> 01:00:30.314
[SPEAKER_01]: But every time that Saber Jr and Rennery to get in the ring with each other,

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[SPEAKER_00]: It would probably be a pretty good match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, absolutely.

01:00:36.730 --> 01:00:41.693
[SPEAKER_01]: Like they had the New Japan TV title match for the tournament.

01:00:42.093 --> 01:00:45.535
[SPEAKER_01]: They had the G1 match that I thought was really good right out the gate.

01:00:46.175 --> 01:00:48.777
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, September 2, you're due to win the match.

01:00:48.897 --> 01:00:51.058
[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, they felt so cold going.

01:00:51.639 --> 01:01:00.224
[SPEAKER_01]: But the thing that I keep trying to come back to, like, yeah, you know, like, when you guys are in the ring with each other, you already kind of know who's gonna win, but it's gonna be a fun ride.

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[SPEAKER_00]: After that, we had a unusual match here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This was two out of three falls, no time limit.

01:01:08.603 --> 01:01:14.966
[SPEAKER_00]: And it was time to Hashian company against Great Bash Hill with some special rules to it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: At each stage of this two out of three falls match, one person from each side would be moved away.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it was going to start with a trio's match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Then if the second fall would be a regular tag team match, if it went to a third fall would then be a singles match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's how it worked out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: With a couple of twists like you said.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, and in this time we had Toriyano coming out with his hair bleach blonde and his booze bottle again, you know, he had been doing the whole thing with the water bottle, but back in the great bash shield days he had the

01:01:56.428 --> 01:02:00.430
[SPEAKER_00]: When he's introduced, he takes that swig of water and blows the mist into the air.

01:02:00.450 --> 01:02:03.111
[SPEAKER_00]: He's due that whiskey back in the Great Bashield days.

01:02:03.452 --> 01:02:07.373
[SPEAKER_00]: And again, the bleach bond hair and the the more wild brawling style.

01:02:07.614 --> 01:02:10.475
[SPEAKER_00]: And he came out like the violent version of Yano from the past.

01:02:11.195 --> 01:02:22.261
[SPEAKER_00]: And what didn't work in this match was that while he was trying to portray the old vicious Yano, they then went in and did all the Taguchi comedy.

01:02:23.813 --> 01:02:36.400
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, the stuff like, you know, Irish whipping somebody into to go cheese button and then doing the whole thing with the for and the, oh god, the forever clothes lines thing where to go, she tries to get everybody to keep giving clothes on.

01:02:44.204 --> 01:02:46.725
[SPEAKER_00]: he can't and I'm not saying he can't run quickly.

01:02:46.765 --> 01:02:50.806
[SPEAKER_00]: He literally cannot lift his both of his feet off the ground at the same time.

01:02:51.146 --> 01:02:55.488
[SPEAKER_00]: So Tana Hashie was awkwardly power walking in to do those forever clothes lines.

01:02:56.208 --> 01:02:59.529
[SPEAKER_00]: And through out all that, Yannos not in on this.

01:02:59.989 --> 01:03:01.410
[SPEAKER_00]: Yannos was down on the outside.

01:03:01.470 --> 01:03:03.591
[SPEAKER_00]: So after all this, he comes out as the

01:03:04.471 --> 01:03:11.778
[SPEAKER_00]: the viciousiano, the heeliano, he sits out the comedy, which makes sense if he's trying to do the vicious kind of vicious stuff.

01:03:11.818 --> 01:03:16.602
[SPEAKER_00]: But why is this mixed in with now we're doing the ha ha to Gucci comedy?

01:03:16.622 --> 01:03:19.965
[SPEAKER_00]: It was in Congress, it didn't mesh together, it didn't work.

01:03:21.046 --> 01:03:33.661
[SPEAKER_00]: And in the end, Makabe hit a layer with the chain wrapped around his arm, that chain that he always wears to the ring wrapped around his arm and clobbered to Gucci with it again, being the heel side of it, which Makabe as a heel ate terrible, by the way.

01:03:33.681 --> 01:03:40.569
[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no

01:03:40.942 --> 01:03:42.703
[SPEAKER_00]: But this was two different matches that didn't match.

01:03:43.023 --> 01:03:44.764
[SPEAKER_00]: And in the end, it was great match.

01:03:44.784 --> 01:03:51.628
[SPEAKER_00]: He'll winning that first fall when Makabe pinned to Gucci after clobbering him with the chained up clothesline.

01:03:51.828 --> 01:03:53.389
[SPEAKER_00]: And that led to a tag team match.

01:03:53.429 --> 01:03:57.531
[SPEAKER_00]: So, to Gucci's been cleaned out, he's been beaten.

01:03:58.091 --> 01:03:59.392
[SPEAKER_01]: So, he's got it.

01:03:59.432 --> 01:04:02.334
[SPEAKER_01]: So now I got Dec Burado and Tana Hosh on one side.

01:04:02.774 --> 01:04:02.994
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

01:04:03.154 --> 01:04:07.917
[SPEAKER_00]: And we would think that they they conferred and Tomahaki Hona left the ring.

01:04:07.977 --> 01:04:08.537
[SPEAKER_00]: See, they're okay.

01:04:08.577 --> 01:04:11.379
[SPEAKER_00]: It'll be against Yano and Makabe.

01:04:11.419 --> 01:04:11.839
[SPEAKER_00]: However.

01:04:11.979 --> 01:04:13.060
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, oh, oh, no.

01:04:13.520 --> 01:04:14.961
[SPEAKER_00]: There was a surprise for us.

01:04:15.241 --> 01:04:20.283
[SPEAKER_00]: And the music hit and of all people to Kashi is came out again.

01:04:21.004 --> 01:04:22.344
[SPEAKER_00]: And we haven't seen him in a while.

01:04:22.385 --> 01:04:22.905
[SPEAKER_00]: The wild man.

01:04:22.945 --> 01:04:27.327
[SPEAKER_00]: He ran through the crowd, starling and and groaning and everything else.

01:04:27.367 --> 01:04:28.548
[SPEAKER_00]: Like the the monster he was.

01:04:29.008 --> 01:04:30.550
[SPEAKER_01]: And then over two years, right?

01:04:30.590 --> 01:04:38.881
[SPEAKER_01]: Like the last time of the Suzuki Gune shut down with Minuro Suzuki, like right before Reflaking, I'm not last year, but the year before.

01:04:39.360 --> 01:04:43.123
[SPEAKER_00]: That's right, when you can disband it, they brought back Isica for that one last time.

01:04:43.464 --> 01:04:46.346
[SPEAKER_00]: He had the iron fingers with him, which would come into play later.

01:04:46.947 --> 01:04:49.389
[SPEAKER_00]: And really, this was kind of a break for everybody else.

01:04:49.469 --> 01:04:50.790
[SPEAKER_00]: Isica kind of carried this segment.

01:04:50.810 --> 01:04:53.293
[SPEAKER_00]: The people were happy to see him again, just because you don't get to see him.

01:04:53.873 --> 01:04:56.135
[SPEAKER_00]: The other thing about Isica, you don't get to see him very often.

01:04:56.836 --> 01:04:59.078
[SPEAKER_00]: He is much slimmer than he was.

01:04:59.238 --> 01:05:00.399
[SPEAKER_00]: Because you do it as well.

01:05:00.519 --> 01:05:02.861
[SPEAKER_00]: And he is absolutely cut.

01:05:03.102 --> 01:05:03.562
[SPEAKER_00]: Shut up.

01:05:05.000 --> 01:05:19.752
[SPEAKER_01]: Like you, you're wearing it like you've wearing it's like it's straps on its chest and they were hanging a little like loose because you just wasn't the beef the beef monster that you were for but nobody found on the student whatsoever.

01:05:20.794 --> 01:05:23.576
[SPEAKER_00]: Fantastic shape for his age or anybody's age for that matter.

01:05:23.616 --> 01:05:39.067
[SPEAKER_00]: Nobody very few people are in that good of shape, but Yeah, anyway, he used the iron fingers on Desperado and got to qualify so that was basically the thing he came in Diddish dick Cooper to poor Desperado and was de-cute so that I even think we're now we're at one to one

01:05:39.891 --> 01:05:43.112
[SPEAKER_00]: And it was Tana Hashie versus Yano, which is what this whole thing was building up to.

01:05:44.453 --> 01:05:45.373
[SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't good.

01:05:47.234 --> 01:05:50.815
[SPEAKER_01]: Tana Hashie just went about 15 minute longer than the whole thing should have gone.

01:05:51.755 --> 01:05:53.616
[SPEAKER_00]: Tana Hashie can't really move well anymore.

01:05:53.796 --> 01:06:03.359
[SPEAKER_00]: And if he's going to have a good match and he had some good matches during G1, but they were always with excellent workers who could carry Tana Hashie through it and that's just not Yano's style.

01:06:03.499 --> 01:06:05.540
[SPEAKER_00]: And he just does, that's just not what Yano's there for.

01:06:06.520 --> 01:06:08.061
[SPEAKER_00]: Yano doesn't even really wrestle anymore.

01:06:10.271 --> 01:06:26.062
[SPEAKER_00]: It was a bit of a slog there at the end just to guys really can't wrestle trying to and then he hit a high fly flow and then afterwards sharing they were buddies again like right after that they just dropped the whole thing and great bash heel after

01:06:27.232 --> 01:06:37.580
[SPEAKER_00]: cooperating somebody with a chain and Yano coming out and doing all this stuff with the the bleach blonde hair and the whiskey and that's in swinging chairs all over the place they were they were just all friends again now.

01:06:47.316 --> 01:06:56.619
[SPEAKER_00]: Which, you know, well, that's the sash that he wears during his long introductions when he's goofy, you know, he is the was a tourism ambassador for Naborabetsu.

01:06:56.679 --> 01:07:03.581
[SPEAKER_00]: So there were pictures in the ring afterwards with government officials from the area who have kind of named him in the ambassador of this area.

01:07:04.461 --> 01:07:12.043
[SPEAKER_00]: And so he goes from being the old heel to getting pinned and then just getting up and just going, oh, that was fun, wasn't it?

01:07:12.263 --> 01:07:13.624
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't really get you this worked.

01:07:14.529 --> 01:07:15.470
[SPEAKER_00]: I thought this is clumsy.

01:07:15.490 --> 01:07:16.190
[SPEAKER_00]: It was clunky.

01:07:16.290 --> 01:07:26.377
[SPEAKER_00]: It was a weird mix of heal and comedy and I just think it was a mashup that didn't sound good together.

01:07:27.658 --> 01:07:35.983
[SPEAKER_01]: I think they had an idea in their head to pay tribute to something of Tautahashi's past and it fell flat.

01:07:36.844 --> 01:07:39.626
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, they needed they needed a guy.

01:07:39.646 --> 01:07:43.629
[SPEAKER_01]: So they got to Gucci and to Gucci just did his like

01:07:44.825 --> 01:08:05.414
[SPEAKER_01]: funky but weapon stuff instead of like kind of taking it seriously and he kind of couple matches the last couple days where he was wrestling legitimately and and seriously and it could have required a bit more of that but you know there was there was a lot of spoken mirrors and there were those you know the this one's get popped from the crowd rather than work the crowd into popping.

01:08:06.334 --> 01:08:07.215
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?

01:08:07.235 --> 01:08:11.299
[SPEAKER_01]: Like there it was it was getting the cheap and easy pop tonight.

01:08:11.459 --> 01:08:16.064
[SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't like we're going to We're going to give you something you're never going to forget

01:08:17.520 --> 01:08:17.840
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

01:08:18.780 --> 01:08:21.001
[SPEAKER_00]: And so that was the, uh, no word about two thing.

01:08:21.061 --> 01:08:28.603
[SPEAKER_00]: The tour continued around Hokkaido with House shows that are not on NJPW world, uh, then Aussie, uh, Asahi Kawa and Katami.

01:08:29.143 --> 01:08:36.505
[SPEAKER_00]: They were all preview tags outside of maybe a young lion singles match at the beginning, but, uh, again, the just strictly preview tags.

01:08:37.545 --> 01:08:46.672
[SPEAKER_00]: same type of stuff we talked about, knockout brothers getting wins, Rennerita usually getting wins, sometimes Zach would tap out a member just so they could have a baby face finish at the end.

01:08:46.792 --> 01:08:51.316
[SPEAKER_00]: But for the most part, just house shows, strictly house shows, not not available on world.

01:08:51.336 --> 01:08:52.637
[SPEAKER_00]: There are a couple more of those.

01:08:54.097 --> 01:09:01.020
[SPEAKER_00]: on September 20th there in Yekamo, and then Curry, I'm on Sunday, September 21st, Jeremy's asking why two out of three falls.

01:09:01.360 --> 01:09:08.023
[SPEAKER_00]: I guess so that they could bring in Isica as a surprise to everybody.

01:09:09.383 --> 01:09:10.924
[SPEAKER_00]: Like I said, I don't think this works.

01:09:10.964 --> 01:09:14.586
[SPEAKER_00]: So if you're to try to explain it as a challenge, I think they wanted to do

01:09:15.878 --> 01:09:35.096
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, something that brought out Yano who is the goodwill ambassador for this area, something for Tana Hashie because he's on his farewell tour and this is going to be the last time these people can see him wrestle and I think they wanted to do something special, I'm not sure it worked, but I think they also got the chance to reuse it and so that's like, okay, well,

01:09:35.962 --> 01:09:42.367
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, wrestle a trio's match, then we'll take a little rest and let isca kind of do an act, and we get about 10 minutes off.

01:09:43.088 --> 01:09:46.951
[SPEAKER_00]: Then we can finish up with the singles match.

01:09:46.991 --> 01:09:56.538
[SPEAKER_00]: And so I think it was just kind of structured that way in order to give them breaks and give both Yano and Tanahashi a chance to shine in this town that means something to both of them.

01:09:58.400 --> 01:10:03.044
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think if they tried that, again, I'm not sure we're going to be seeing this one again.

01:10:03.744 --> 01:10:09.664
[SPEAKER_01]: They need to look for something to check off a lot of boxes and a new company, but it's checked off a lot of boxes.

01:10:11.028 --> 01:10:16.770
[SPEAKER_00]: So the shows this week, I mentioned Yakimo Kuriyama on Sunday, the 21st and Oberhidro on the 22nd.

01:10:16.790 --> 01:10:23.373
[SPEAKER_00]: These are pretty small towns, but again, fanservice for the people up in Hokkaido, who don't get to see the stars very often.

01:10:24.013 --> 01:10:29.595
[SPEAKER_00]: We're back on NJPW World on September 24th, and that is Junior Heavyweight Knight.

01:10:29.955 --> 01:10:35.717
[SPEAKER_00]: So let's take a look at this card, Jeremy, and see what we've got, because battle line

01:10:37.358 --> 01:10:45.928
[SPEAKER_00]: Starts off like, and this one's going to be on Wednesday, September 4th, that this one will be on world, so we will talk about this next week.

01:10:46.749 --> 01:10:51.235
[SPEAKER_00]: The kickoff match is all the young lion affair, and then we will have

01:10:52.743 --> 01:10:58.408
[SPEAKER_00]: 30 minutes time limit, Hiroshi Tanahashi final road connection, which is a different than kinship.

01:10:58.609 --> 01:11:02.312
[SPEAKER_00]: He's got these, these are labeled different things, kinship are his old friends.

01:11:03.273 --> 01:11:09.518
[SPEAKER_00]: Connection is with his allies who are maybe a little bit younger right there, but this one is a connection one.

01:11:09.618 --> 01:11:12.401
[SPEAKER_00]: It's Hiroshi Tanahashi against Master Watto.

01:11:12.521 --> 01:11:18.727
[SPEAKER_00]: So I have a feeling Watto is going to have to do the job in this one Jeremy and Tanahashi, we just hope.

01:11:19.347 --> 01:11:25.015
[SPEAKER_00]: Man, just to put together something fairly decent, but I think water is going to have to do a lot of carrying here.

01:11:25.736 --> 01:11:29.060
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think this is also might be a little bit of a test for water.

01:11:29.120 --> 01:11:31.043
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, can you make this guy look good?

01:11:31.103 --> 01:11:31.744
[SPEAKER_01]: Can we count on you?

01:11:31.764 --> 01:11:32.344
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?

01:11:32.364 --> 01:11:33.306
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, what?

01:11:35.165 --> 01:11:39.227
[SPEAKER_01]: What are you able to do with this guy to make him look good?

01:11:39.247 --> 01:11:45.491
[SPEAKER_01]: Because we're in the point of the year where it's not I'm making water look good.

01:11:45.511 --> 01:11:47.332
[SPEAKER_01]: I could tell him I actually look good going.

01:11:47.352 --> 01:11:48.732
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, okay.

01:11:48.812 --> 01:11:49.953
[SPEAKER_00]: It's an interesting point, Jeremy.

01:11:49.973 --> 01:12:00.159
[SPEAKER_00]: What you just brought up because sometimes I feel like in matches, Watto can defer too much to his opponents in that he will

01:12:01.179 --> 01:12:02.961
[SPEAKER_00]: Sell and maybe not a certain self.

01:12:03.021 --> 01:12:05.963
[SPEAKER_00]: This is one where he, Tana Hash is going to leave the match.

01:12:06.003 --> 01:12:08.325
[SPEAKER_00]: He's the veteran by far, right?

01:12:08.365 --> 01:12:09.626
[SPEAKER_00]: He should be leading the match.

01:12:10.286 --> 01:12:11.868
[SPEAKER_00]: What on needs to take the initiative, though?

01:12:12.148 --> 01:12:15.090
[SPEAKER_00]: And he needs to be active and he needs to push the action.

01:12:15.611 --> 01:12:17.072
[SPEAKER_00]: His Tana Hash is just physically can't.

01:12:18.012 --> 01:12:24.538
[SPEAKER_00]: And so this shouldn't be a thing where Wado lays on the mat and sells, which I think sometimes he does when he's in with

01:12:26.259 --> 01:12:37.125
[SPEAKER_01]: What I should be like kind of obviously should be selling the majority of the match and what I've got to be like pushing the aggression You know, it's like this shouldn't be like, oh, you're you're talking a hoshi.

01:12:37.285 --> 01:12:41.348
[SPEAKER_01]: I I have respect to different for you Now the ninja path for a wrestling go try to be the best

01:12:41.866 --> 01:12:43.027
[SPEAKER_00]: that's what I'm hoping he does.

01:12:43.067 --> 01:12:44.207
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's well put.

01:12:44.448 --> 01:12:52.712
[SPEAKER_00]: I just don't want him to just kind of lay there and wait for time to ask you to do things which I feel like what does sometimes when he feels like he's he doesn't have the station to push.

01:12:53.153 --> 01:12:53.793
[SPEAKER_00]: He needs to do it here.

01:12:54.433 --> 01:12:56.234
[SPEAKER_00]: After that, we will have great best shield again.

01:12:56.314 --> 01:13:00.297
[SPEAKER_00]: Honma, Yano and Makabe against Kato, Tagushi and Tiger Mass.

01:13:00.317 --> 01:13:01.938
[SPEAKER_00]: So this looks like great best shield winning.

01:13:02.298 --> 01:13:04.940
[SPEAKER_00]: I would not be surprised if they're going to do a

01:13:11.793 --> 01:13:13.134
[SPEAKER_00]: those trio's titles again.

01:13:13.154 --> 01:13:25.683
[SPEAKER_00]: I just think that this combination, they're the class, you know, Makabe and Homa, one world tag leak a couple of years in a row before Homa had his accident and was almost paralyzed or was paralyzed for a while.

01:13:26.383 --> 01:13:34.629
[SPEAKER_00]: And they were a good tag team, of course, Homa, they're not much left of them right there, but with those trio's titles, I feel like you can do one last great bash heel push, maybe.

01:13:35.770 --> 01:13:38.432
[SPEAKER_01]: So, it's probably nothing, right?

01:13:39.106 --> 01:13:46.632
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but Shoma Kato was actually tagging a great bash heel on one of the shows this past week.

01:13:48.033 --> 01:13:50.614
[SPEAKER_01]: And now he's like wrestling against them.

01:13:50.955 --> 01:13:52.015
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he's a young lion.

01:13:52.055 --> 01:13:56.779
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he's ever, I just you're there starting to online these young lion with certain people.

01:13:57.319 --> 01:14:02.903
[SPEAKER_01]: And I just think it's interesting that he was on one side with them on and now he's against them and another.

01:14:03.304 --> 01:14:06.006
[SPEAKER_00]: That could be the point of the young lion at times, but yeah, it's a

01:14:06.755 --> 01:14:08.397
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he's getting close to his story.

01:14:08.437 --> 01:14:08.777
[SPEAKER_01]: Nothing.

01:14:08.977 --> 01:14:09.318
[SPEAKER_01]: I drift.

01:14:09.438 --> 01:14:10.559
[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, hmm, that's weird.

01:14:11.200 --> 01:14:12.521
[SPEAKER_00]: He's getting close to his excursion.

01:14:12.621 --> 01:14:14.944
[SPEAKER_00]: If he's going to go on one, not everybody does anymore.

01:14:14.984 --> 01:14:17.767
[SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, Cato is not far away from that.

01:14:17.787 --> 01:14:22.732
[SPEAKER_00]: And he's one of the people that's been discussed as perhaps the next Tiger Mask.

01:14:23.562 --> 01:14:30.486
[SPEAKER_00]: So I know this one's called the current one is Tiger Mass 4, but there have been other Tiger Mass that have come and gone since this guy's been Tiger Mass.

01:14:30.826 --> 01:14:34.447
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's a bit of a, it's a bit ambiguous just to what number he would actually be.

01:14:34.548 --> 01:14:39.130
[SPEAKER_00]: But there's talk about, he's one of the people that might end up being, you know, next one.

01:14:39.170 --> 01:14:41.271
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, look at the time, I look at this render.

01:14:41.291 --> 01:14:43.732
[SPEAKER_01]: When you say that, I'd say we see it.

01:14:44.212 --> 01:14:45.753
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, sure, yeah, good, good, yeah.

01:14:46.654 --> 01:14:46.994
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

01:14:48.490 --> 01:14:52.034
[SPEAKER_00]: Next up, we have, again, we're talking about, we're a newman.

01:14:52.054 --> 01:14:53.055
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, these guys, good buddies.

01:14:53.095 --> 01:14:58.260
[SPEAKER_00]: There are, they teaming with Boltono Lake, preview for the Don Fale, Boltono Lake.

01:14:58.300 --> 01:15:01.424
[SPEAKER_01]: Round and round and round and round and round and round and round and round.

01:15:01.444 --> 01:15:01.924
[SPEAKER_01]: Do we go?

01:15:02.805 --> 01:15:04.627
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't like Dick Togo's chances in this one, Jeremy.

01:15:05.328 --> 01:15:05.728
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

01:15:05.768 --> 01:15:08.231
[SPEAKER_01]: He might be odd to going for a Comic-Conquerry.

01:15:09.820 --> 01:15:12.781
[SPEAKER_00]: And then after that, we have a similar situation.

01:15:13.181 --> 01:15:18.982
[SPEAKER_00]: We have ghetto, Oscar, and Utois against Takamichi Noku, Tahichi, and Tomahiro Ishiyi.

01:15:19.342 --> 01:15:23.803
[SPEAKER_00]: I guarantee you, nobody involved in that tag team title match is getting pinned in this one.

01:15:23.823 --> 01:15:25.084
[SPEAKER_00]: See, they're going to be Takahiro ghetto.

01:15:25.924 --> 01:15:26.744
[SPEAKER_00]: And we'll see.

01:15:26.764 --> 01:15:29.145
[SPEAKER_01]: We've got all four of you guys in the ring together.

01:15:29.405 --> 01:15:34.306
[SPEAKER_01]: Tahiti, Tahiti, Ashini, Bumbleclot, Utois, and Oscar.

01:15:34.917 --> 01:15:36.197
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, we've seen it a couple of times now.

01:15:36.257 --> 01:15:42.660
[SPEAKER_00]: We saw it in a board about to, we've seen it in a couple of ways, but it'll be a lot of U-O-I's going after E-C-E.

01:15:43.080 --> 01:15:49.502
[SPEAKER_00]: The tall guys, Oscar and T-H-E, going at T-H-E, she's tall for the New Japan roster anyway, and Oscar's just tall.

01:15:49.762 --> 01:15:56.304
[SPEAKER_00]: So, I didn't think it was funny E-C-E jumping up in the air to headbutt Oscar in the collarbone.

01:15:56.765 --> 01:15:57.565
[SPEAKER_00]: That was entertaining me.

01:15:57.945 --> 01:15:58.565
[SPEAKER_00]: That entertaining me.

01:15:59.786 --> 01:16:02.687
[SPEAKER_01]: I am entertained by old English E-E in U-O-I's

01:16:04.079 --> 01:16:06.921
[SPEAKER_00]: Ishii is not much taller than some of the joshis out there.

01:16:06.961 --> 01:16:07.741
[SPEAKER_00]: He's like five.

01:16:08.461 --> 01:16:11.183
[SPEAKER_00]: No, I've heard people say five four.

01:16:11.203 --> 01:16:12.744
[SPEAKER_00]: And that was really generous to me.

01:16:13.184 --> 01:16:14.405
[SPEAKER_01]: Really short gang man.

01:16:14.445 --> 01:16:15.285
[SPEAKER_01]: He's a short gang.

01:16:16.046 --> 01:16:17.667
[SPEAKER_00]: Don't like a belt like a fire plug though.

01:16:18.267 --> 01:16:18.587
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

01:16:19.127 --> 01:16:26.852
[SPEAKER_00]: After that, we have the unaffiliated crew, her almost like a Hashigyo to sushi and shingo to Kagi against Ishii Mori, Finley and Gabe Kid.

01:16:26.872 --> 01:16:29.033
[SPEAKER_00]: And again, it's a preview match.

01:16:29.133 --> 01:16:32.115
[SPEAKER_00]: So they're not going to pull out all the stops, but considering

01:16:32.955 --> 01:16:51.601
[SPEAKER_01]: the caliber of the wrestlers involved, this might be one of the better matches than I. Yeah, I'm I'm really hoping that we get a we the go home show for the big destruction Kobe on the 28 so whatever whatever it is like you better sell it to me tonight and that's what I'm hoping for.

01:16:52.943 --> 01:16:55.985
[SPEAKER_00]: And then we have TMDK against House of Torchers.

01:16:56.025 --> 01:16:58.346
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's Narita on one side, Zach, on the other.

01:16:58.366 --> 01:17:05.450
[SPEAKER_00]: You throw Taka Hashin, Hartley Jackson, are the underdogs in this one for their respective sides.

01:17:05.530 --> 01:17:11.953
[SPEAKER_00]: But you just have to expect more heat from Narita on this one is he tries to make himself out to be the challenger.

01:17:12.514 --> 01:17:13.114
[SPEAKER_00]: The top challenger.

01:17:13.954 --> 01:17:16.676
[SPEAKER_01]: Narita definitely pinning Hartley Jackson and that's my prediction.

01:17:17.321 --> 01:17:18.462
[SPEAKER_00]: I feel pretty confident on that too.

01:17:18.942 --> 01:17:30.548
[SPEAKER_00]: After that, though, we have the Junior Tag Team Championship match and the 79th Champions and their second defense dokey and show facing Jose Fujida and Robin Eagles.

01:17:32.129 --> 01:17:38.193
[SPEAKER_00]: I know that a lot of times, House of Torch your matches can be taken down because they do shenanigans and they do interference.

01:17:39.733 --> 01:17:42.495
[SPEAKER_00]: If they minimize that, I know there's gonna be some of it.

01:17:42.795 --> 01:17:46.137
[SPEAKER_00]: If they minimize that, this match should be outstanding.

01:17:48.148 --> 01:17:49.549
[SPEAKER_01]: What do you think about a title change here?

01:17:50.430 --> 01:17:50.971
[SPEAKER_00]: You can do it.

01:17:51.091 --> 01:17:56.256
[SPEAKER_00]: You can do it anytime with these tag team titles because the junior titles bounce around all over the place.

01:17:57.237 --> 01:17:57.357
[SPEAKER_00]: And...

01:17:58.608 --> 01:18:05.175
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, the question is, is there going to be another title defense before they go into junior tag league, because junior tag league starts at the end of October.

01:18:05.596 --> 01:18:07.258
[SPEAKER_00]: They got to over 23rd is the first one.

01:18:07.658 --> 01:18:17.269
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if there's going to be another junior heavyweight tag team title challenge as part of the king of pro wrestling build up or the show itself, you know, don't know.

01:18:19.202 --> 01:18:28.550
[SPEAKER_00]: part of the story they're going to tell in Junior Tagly, which of these two teams do you want to have the belts and beat the targets?

01:18:28.931 --> 01:18:30.292
[SPEAKER_00]: Go ahead, Junior Tagly.

01:18:31.473 --> 01:18:35.757
[SPEAKER_00]: I kind of think the show and doke you feel that role a little bit better, whereas you're

01:18:37.095 --> 01:18:42.302
[SPEAKER_00]: rooting for Fujida and Eagles to get back up there, perhaps, especially if they get totally screwed.

01:18:42.783 --> 01:18:48.311
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, hit him with a pipe or, you know, do something that doesn't just bury them something other than a clean finish.

01:18:49.433 --> 01:18:51.816
[SPEAKER_00]: So, if it were me,

01:18:52.657 --> 01:19:04.272
[SPEAKER_00]: I would have a screw job finish over here so that Eagles and Fusica go into the tournament saying we're going to get back up there and get you guys for that, but you could switch it right here as well.

01:19:04.332 --> 01:19:07.776
[SPEAKER_00]: I have Eagles and Fusica as the reigning champs going in.

01:19:07.976 --> 01:19:08.437
[SPEAKER_00]: You could.

01:19:08.677 --> 01:19:10.920
[SPEAKER_00]: You can go either way because these titles bounce around so much.

01:19:12.237 --> 01:19:19.878
[SPEAKER_01]: There are a couple of logistical things that I've been thinking about that you might want to keep in mind what I'm thinking about that's one, okay?

01:19:20.258 --> 01:19:22.079
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm pretty sure that that's a favor Junior.

01:19:22.099 --> 01:19:24.759
[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like it's going to drop that title in the 13th.

01:19:25.179 --> 01:19:28.700
[SPEAKER_01]: And so they like parody with their belts and they like to spread these things around.

01:19:29.200 --> 01:19:30.880
[SPEAKER_01]: And these guys win the belts.

01:19:31.680 --> 01:19:38.461
[SPEAKER_01]: That kind of gives Fuji to something after losing the title shot after winning best of the

01:19:41.962 --> 01:19:49.651
[SPEAKER_01]: Number two, I firmly believe they're running back Doki and El Desperado at Rethel Kingdom again.

01:19:49.671 --> 01:19:51.092
[SPEAKER_01]: I would hope so.

01:19:51.372 --> 01:20:01.664
[SPEAKER_01]: If you do that, you kind of need to get those boats off of Doki earlier rather than later in order to protect that wind loss optic in which he's going in there.

01:20:02.184 --> 01:20:11.191
[SPEAKER_01]: If he loses the title, now because show loses the pin, you can minimize the amount of pin he takes, going into best to super junior tag.

01:20:11.231 --> 01:20:19.878
[SPEAKER_01]: We, you've got a baby-faced team that you know you're going to have a great match with no matter what it's wrestling and what these two guys look for, but you also coach him food you know.

01:20:20.399 --> 01:20:21.880
[SPEAKER_01]: It just might be the time to do it.

01:20:22.821 --> 01:20:24.122
[SPEAKER_01]: And there's a lot of

01:20:27.668 --> 01:20:36.023
[SPEAKER_01]: The roster's going to need to shake out going in a wrestle kingdom to maximize the best card that getting the tag titles off of Doki might be a good idea.

01:20:36.983 --> 01:20:38.705
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, well, you make a lot of good points.

01:20:38.745 --> 01:20:41.788
[SPEAKER_00]: We'll see how that one turns out next Wednesday.

01:20:42.068 --> 01:20:48.315
[SPEAKER_00]: And the main event will be the IWGP Junior Heavyweight title Desperado in his eighth defense.

01:20:48.615 --> 01:20:54.101
[SPEAKER_00]: Ernie, he's on a V7 already, Jeremy, in the books, looking for V8 going up against yo.

01:20:54.741 --> 01:20:58.005
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think he's going to get it, you know, this will probably be a terrific match.

01:20:58.585 --> 01:21:16.060
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if yo is the right guy to unseat Desperado, especially because as you talked about, there's a match with Doki that kind of needs to happen after the way things took place at Russell Kingdom last year where Doki had that early injury and a match that all of us were really, really looking forward to.

01:21:16.160 --> 01:21:20.663
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm sure that this is, I'm sure Yo's going to do well.

01:21:20.944 --> 01:21:22.105
[SPEAKER_00]: He's a terrific wrestler.

01:21:22.485 --> 01:21:24.827
[SPEAKER_00]: I just don't feel like he should be taking the title from Desperado here.

01:21:25.896 --> 01:21:34.423
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think they have like an insane win-loss record against each other.

01:21:34.483 --> 01:21:43.290
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, yo has a lot of desperate, we check real quick.

01:21:43.551 --> 01:21:44.371
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, no, you're right.

01:21:44.411 --> 01:21:46.213
[SPEAKER_00]: He's beaten Despema more than he would think he has.

01:21:46.233 --> 01:21:48.815
[SPEAKER_01]: He's like desperate of like one and four.

01:21:48.835 --> 01:21:50.076
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because if we're something like that.

01:21:56.922 --> 01:22:09.104
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Desparado is one and three, I guess, you know, and it's always been inside like tag matches or that's the super junior, like one of those singles matches in there.

01:22:09.124 --> 01:22:14.526
[SPEAKER_01]: It kind of feels like when the titles on the line, Desparado should be the guy to win that match.

01:22:15.206 --> 01:22:21.667
[SPEAKER_01]: The last time they had a IDB GP two year history title match was at Dominion in 2021.

01:22:22.187 --> 01:22:24.348
[SPEAKER_01]: The rest were single matches that

01:22:27.068 --> 01:22:33.077
[SPEAKER_01]: Should be, should be pretty interesting if I had to predict, I think deathbrow holds on to the, but I think this is probably going to be a pretty good match.

01:22:34.753 --> 01:22:37.735
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, well, we will be back next week to talk about that.

01:22:37.775 --> 01:22:56.526
[SPEAKER_00]: The only other piece of news we got this week came from an ginger back who mentioned that he was going to be, uh, uh, we would not be appearing in, uh, these, NJPW star room historic crossover in, uh, Guangxhu, because they were going to China, uh, he said, I'll work harder and get better to come back one day.

01:22:56.806 --> 01:22:58.768
[SPEAKER_00]: That doesn't sound super bizarre.

01:22:59.552 --> 01:23:16.206
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it sounds like he was uninvited in some way on that, but he's not going to be part of Junior Tag League, not going to be on the China show, which I'm not sure what he's saying there other than like he said, I work harder and get better to come back one day.

01:23:17.847 --> 01:23:27.175
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'll say I'll get better and come back one day sounds like I got you right at Beninger and then he posted something about yeah, I could work like Well, look like throwing shade at NutriPan.

01:23:27.535 --> 01:23:36.582
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I was supposed to be there and then they told me not to anymore, but if that is the case, I'm Frankly surprised, I like an inch back.

01:23:36.662 --> 01:23:38.083
[SPEAKER_00]: I was hoping to see more of them there.

01:23:38.103 --> 01:23:44.949
[SPEAKER_01]: So There are two conclusions that I could draw that are both concerning one

01:23:48.453 --> 01:23:52.055
[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, yeah, or two.

01:23:52.975 --> 01:23:55.736
[SPEAKER_01]: They told him that he wasn't good enough to work for them.

01:23:56.597 --> 01:24:02.639
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and I doubt they said that, but if they called him and said, hey, we're going to go a different direction.

01:24:04.180 --> 01:24:05.400
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm sure that's how it was put.

01:24:05.440 --> 01:24:07.921
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean, Jeremy, you know, they're not going to say, hey, you're not going to know.

01:24:07.982 --> 01:24:08.502
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not just,

01:24:09.462 --> 01:24:23.548
[SPEAKER_00]: The entire culture of Japan goes against saying that to people in the first place, but just the phrasing here, I'll work harder and get better to come back one day, sounds like they decided maybe they had somebody they would rather have on these shows than him.

01:24:24.148 --> 01:24:26.249
[SPEAKER_00]: Or at least that's his perception, perhaps.

01:24:27.229 --> 01:24:36.713
[SPEAKER_00]: Again, if so, this guy's really talented, I enjoy watching him wrestle, and especially because I thought he had a pretty good performance at super-geniors, I'm

01:24:37.413 --> 01:24:41.362
[SPEAKER_00]: Puzzled if that's indeed what New Japan met.

01:24:41.482 --> 01:24:45.411
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe that's on Ninja MacTook it, but I'm a little bad would be surprised.

01:24:45.451 --> 01:24:46.794
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe they are cutting costs, you know?

01:24:47.647 --> 01:24:52.311
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, for content for people that are listening to the show, I posted the tweets that he posted.

01:24:52.791 --> 01:24:56.674
[SPEAKER_01]: And there are timestamps and locations from these tweets.

01:24:57.114 --> 01:25:07.963
[SPEAKER_01]: And the first tweet, his apology to the Japanese fans that he had been pulled from the New Japan shows, is almost at noon on September 17th from Tokyo.

01:25:09.484 --> 01:25:09.844
[SPEAKER_01]: OK.

01:25:10.705 --> 01:25:11.145
[SPEAKER_01]: The net,

01:25:13.182 --> 01:25:20.632
[SPEAKER_01]: that he puts out is I'm still available to work this weekend on the 19th, 20th, 21st, send a DM.

01:25:21.433 --> 01:25:29.202
[SPEAKER_01]: That posted at 649 after the time change going forward from Memphis, Tennessee.

01:25:29.763 --> 01:25:34.145
[SPEAKER_01]: So he had an entire plane flight for him to think about what his net-game plan was.

01:25:34.585 --> 01:25:41.828
[SPEAKER_01]: He literally sent one tweet leaving Tokyo and he got off the plane and he said another tweet like, well, I got to keep moving forward.

01:25:42.128 --> 01:25:42.948
[SPEAKER_01]: I got bills to pay.

01:25:42.968 --> 01:25:44.069
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm still pro wrestler.

01:25:44.489 --> 01:25:45.009
[SPEAKER_01]: Good for him.

01:25:45.229 --> 01:25:46.790
[SPEAKER_01]: Go get that hustle and grind.

01:25:47.466 --> 01:25:50.429
[SPEAKER_00]: And that is a strange thing with the time differences.

01:25:50.469 --> 01:25:54.973
[SPEAKER_00]: You leave Tokyo, come back to the United States, and you get back around the time you left.

01:25:55.474 --> 01:25:56.675
[SPEAKER_00]: It's kind of a mine screw for it.

01:25:56.995 --> 01:26:02.220
[SPEAKER_00]: It's the same day and around the same time that you left in the first place.

01:26:02.420 --> 01:26:05.223
[SPEAKER_00]: Of course, the opposite, going over to Japan, entire day vanishes.

01:26:06.064 --> 01:26:08.446
[SPEAKER_01]: I know what last month before we wrap this up today.

01:26:08.927 --> 01:26:09.167
[SPEAKER_00]: That's it.

01:26:11.528 --> 01:26:16.410
[SPEAKER_01]: said we just talked about potentially new Japan not having money to bring it outside talent.

01:26:16.470 --> 01:26:24.154
[SPEAKER_01]: If they end up being moot, but would you bring and draw to a new Japan directly?

01:26:26.055 --> 01:26:33.539
[SPEAKER_00]: He's been there before as La Sombra and in fact he can participate in the G1 climax one year as La Sombra.

01:26:35.580 --> 01:26:38.561
[SPEAKER_00]: I get the feeling he would probably want more money

01:26:41.330 --> 01:26:51.578
[SPEAKER_00]: So unless he were willing to come in and work fairly cheap, I'm not sure he would, I'm not sure what he'd go.

01:26:52.859 --> 01:26:57.702
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, yeah, there's not also the thing.

01:26:58.443 --> 01:27:08.550
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe he doesn't, maybe he doesn't have a price tag that he really can get on a mean like if they can negotiate a price of right and he rehabilitates like

01:27:13.840 --> 01:27:18.401
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, I, who, that's what it would you do it?

01:27:20.022 --> 01:27:30.685
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, the question is would if he left AEW on bad terms and he's going back and he's going, he's going back and forth with MJF on social media.

01:27:30.705 --> 01:27:32.125
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, AEW on bad terms.

01:27:32.225 --> 01:27:37.746
[SPEAKER_01]: He, yeah, he fully, he fully went out like honest with Tony

01:27:41.027 --> 01:27:47.090
[SPEAKER_01]: There are more of an aspect, there's more of an aspect of Tony Con being burned by bringing in forward WWE talent.

01:27:47.410 --> 01:27:53.233
[SPEAKER_01]: And so he falls into this kind of, into let me test for Tony Con to bring him back.

01:27:53.673 --> 01:27:57.555
[SPEAKER_01]: So if he's not welcome back in AEW, does he go to TNA?

01:27:57.575 --> 01:27:58.575
[SPEAKER_01]: Does he go to CMLO?

01:27:58.595 --> 01:27:59.535
[SPEAKER_01]: Does he go to New Japan?

01:27:59.816 --> 01:28:02.677
[SPEAKER_01]: Where are you re-appellate to get an opportunity again?

01:28:03.372 --> 01:28:06.296
[SPEAKER_00]: I think CMLL is the best landing spot for him.

01:28:06.316 --> 01:28:09.961
[SPEAKER_00]: He was a big big star there.

01:28:09.981 --> 01:28:11.223
[SPEAKER_00]: A big big star there.

01:28:11.844 --> 01:28:15.709
[SPEAKER_00]: And he could go back there and make a big splash if.

01:28:16.893 --> 01:28:25.175
[SPEAKER_00]: Everybody is willing to work together, well, you know, he is, I think he even came back at some point when he was with AEW.

01:28:25.275 --> 01:28:34.277
[SPEAKER_00]: I remember Charlotte being when they were still together, of course, and she had been in arena Mexico and things.

01:28:34.317 --> 01:28:43.438
[SPEAKER_00]: So if that door is open, I take it because there's real good money to be made in CMLL and he was a big deal.

01:28:43.458 --> 01:28:45.859
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he's one of those thing, you're not going to go for an opportunity.

01:28:46.639 --> 01:29:01.089
[SPEAKER_00]: uh... the original you were going to be able to yeah he and russian that whole crew uh... so that would shake things up on friday nights and i think wood and now they're they're drawing very well anyway but if you can get another star you can't have too many and

01:29:02.170 --> 01:29:04.891
[SPEAKER_00]: That would be the place to go if possible for him.

01:29:04.911 --> 01:29:09.232
[SPEAKER_00]: And again, I don't think he would come cheap so that that would be an obstacle for New Japan.

01:29:09.432 --> 01:29:17.835
[SPEAKER_00]: I think CML is the most likely language, but especially this back and forth with mjf mjf holds one of CML's 50 titles could happen.

01:29:19.537 --> 01:29:19.797
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

01:29:19.817 --> 01:29:20.758
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, that's all I got.

01:29:20.778 --> 01:29:31.124
[SPEAKER_01]: Just a reminder, we're going to be doing the AEW and WWE, the All-out and Reciple is a post shows after the respective broadcast finished airing on Saturday.

01:29:31.564 --> 01:29:34.086
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll be back next Thursday at 530 p.m.

01:29:34.146 --> 01:29:36.207
[SPEAKER_01]: Eastern to do another episode of this show.

01:29:36.267 --> 01:29:37.328
[SPEAKER_01]: Steven, won't get a kind of here.

01:29:38.267 --> 01:29:38.707
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

01:29:38.767 --> 01:29:53.151
[SPEAKER_00]: So we will be back at the same time next week to talk about the show from Hokkaido, the Junior Tag Team titles and the Junior Heavyweight title plus we will preview the big one, which is destruction in Kobe and talk about any other news that comes up.

01:29:53.211 --> 01:30:00.632
[SPEAKER_00]: So I want to thank everybody who joined us here live on YouTube and to anybody who's listening to us later on either the fight game feed or our regular feed.

01:30:00.652 --> 01:30:01.592
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01:30:01.632 --> 01:30:03.013
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