Omega & Hangman Reunion, Mercedes Moné's Next Move & Forbidden Door Follow-up | The Dynamite Show

Paul Fontaine and Jeff Hawkins are back with a new episode of The Dynamite Show, offering their analysis of AEW's latest episode. They dive into the biggest stories like the surprising reunion of Kenny Omega and Hangman Page, Mercedes Moné's post-Forbidden Door celebration and what's next for her. They also cover the wild main event between Darby Allin and Claudio Castagnoli and the escalating feud between Darby Allin and Jon Moxley.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Dino, bye!
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hey everybody, it's the Dynamite Show, Paul Fontaine, Jeff Hawkins here on the fight game media YouTube channel.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Check it in about, well, get about ten, fifteen minutes after Dynamite ended and not too bad of an over on this week.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And for those of you on the fight game media free audio feed, I want to thank you all for supporting the network and joining us on Thursday morning.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And Jeff, I actually did watch for Bindor, believe it or not.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I did as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, you did.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Did you watch it live?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: My condolences.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, that was a long show.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's funny because I watched it the next day and you know, like it takes me like, so Garrett and I were going to do our show and so I guess how much time doing you to watch this show.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I started watching it like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: the rea clock and because we were going to record at seven.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, that was not enough time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So because I watched a pre show too, which was probably a mistake.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I did as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I had the pre-show on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was cleaning my house while I was watching all this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I liked the time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I prefer to put this way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, a long start.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, eight, eight, thirty in the morning, my time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So at least I have some time afterwards.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, the problem with that is if it's Sunday, it's like, there's church.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Sunday, there's a problem.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then there's also like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: you know the wife you she wants to do things on Sundays and if she doesn't then I usually just want to sit and watch baseball or football and you know and fall asleep on the couch basically you know and I can't really do that with wrestling.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean I killed him but then people asked me for my thoughts and it's like well I fell asleep.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I did fall asleep during Zach and Nigel.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Did you?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I actually enjoyed that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I like the match and it was just I fell asleep I was a long show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I kind of went in and out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was doing things and I was kind of bored by the wrestling beyond us with it because I just felt like it never.
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[SPEAKER_00]: For me, at least watching the show overall and maybe this is just trying to get through it live.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I never felt it got hot in terms of, you know,
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[SPEAKER_00]: emotion.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The emotional timbre felt the same to me throughout the entire show.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know why that is?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll tell you why.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I figured it out while I was watching.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like eight matches in including the pre-show and it dawned on me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Every single match that we've seen so far involves at least one person and in some cases many people that are not regular characters on television.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's hard to get into it because of that, because you're not emotionally invested.
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[SPEAKER_01]: These matches haven't really had a ton of build until you got to Mercedes and Tone.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Mercedes and Tordo, it's Tony and Athena.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Once you got Tony and Athena, now you've got people that are involved and that's when it started to feel like a real big time pay for you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Then you got a hangman and M.J.F.
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[SPEAKER_01]: and you got the main event.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and he had people that, you know, weren't on TV, but there was enough build for the main event that, you know, it's pretty easy to get into.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I took a little bit of a guff for this opinion.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So let me put it to this way.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So to introduce this cage match.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's this long, sappy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: tribute to Will Osprey.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, we may never see him again.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Here's his girlfriend.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Will all these things throughout the night.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Will's last match before he goes in for surgery.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Will last match before he goes in for surgery.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Where's the emotional?
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[SPEAKER_00]: What?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm watching that beep down after the match and going, oh, thank God, you scheduled for surgery.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is, okay, this is the inherent psychological problem with this whole thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Number one, he came out of Wednesday, month ago, the lower month ago and told us, I've had problems with my net for like all year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm gonna need some time off.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But that was the problem.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He should just said I'm having some problems with my neck and never told us he needed to go away.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Or maybe not even tell us he's having problems with his neck.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, like, and show us he's having problems with his neck.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So then then he, you know, cuts into, okay, now that's the off screen stuff.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now let's get into character.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And oh, I'm valing revenge on you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But while I'll be back for for Bendor and we're like, okay, well, he's obviously not going to wrestle because he just told us he's going to be off for a long time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Then he comes back a couple of weeks ago.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And doctors won't clear him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's going to have to get surgery.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I'm going to challenge you anyways, Moxley.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then we're going to have a light-side silk aid match.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, several people pointed that out to me, and they are correct.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If will really was on the verge of not being cleared, kind of like we talked about, like the doctor said, we recommend against it, but you're not really going to hurt yourself much more by doing this match.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Doing a ten man steel cage match is probably safer for will than doing a one on one thirty minute singles match.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to do less when I watch this cage match I got to say like for a lights out steel cage match like.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I actually liked it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like everything was, I mean, it was a spot fest, but everything looked relatively safe, but it also looked good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: A wild, in particular, didn't have to do too much.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hiroshi Tanahashi thank God, didn't have to do too much.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, really nobody did a ton except for Darby.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They really spent a lot of time setting moves up and doing the moves, but they didn't actually like, it wasn't like boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, you know, like it was like, thirty five minutes of like well-paced, crazy, high.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was spots, but there wasn't any, there wasn't a coherent strategy on the behalf of the heels to win the match.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, because it was all about what was going to happen after the match.
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[SPEAKER_00]: correct.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, unless Will was going to take an insane bump at some point during the match, but no, I mean, the way they did that was good to accept any that leads to a whole other bit of questions.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But that should have been the story of the matches at all.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The heels are targeting Will's neck and that and then maybe the beat down afterwards, even though we know it's coming, you know, you and I are old.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We've watched eighties, how show or like Omni matches.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We've seen the great
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, the turn on dusty of Oli Anderson with with with the assassins and the Russians.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We've watched the horsemen trap dusty in a cage and we've watched those crowds basically almost riot those nights.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And the only people kind of angry about we'll getting beat down are the ops.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Even the furniture weren't like bullshit for stuff like that or whatever, like at least they didn't chat one more time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like that would have been the worst.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like we won tables.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But but the weird thing is a case that they do this thing and all and at like so.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Again, I watched it the next day and I'm like running short on time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'd message Garrett because we're going to be we're going to do it in seven o'clock our time and it's like six forty five and I'm just starting the main event.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm like, okay, there's no way I'm going to finish it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I said how much I know there's a post match angle that Garrett says we're going to have to talk about.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what the angle is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I said how much time do I need for this main event angle?
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[SPEAKER_01]: He says about ten minutes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, well, shit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Then I got a fast forward to ten minutes left in the show.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I did.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I know something's coming.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And as soon as
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[SPEAKER_01]: The way that ended where the baby faces raw, leaving the cage, one by one, and chicken wheels hand, I'm like, okay, well, obviously, will's going to be left in a loan.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If it was that obvious to me watching it, I'm not sure why it wasn't so obvious to the baby faces who are leaving him alone in a cage with the deaf riders who are still in the cage.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then this is what I don't understand.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think it was a fuck up, but I don't know because we had on in the shot, while Darby or while Will is being beaten down by the death rioters and while they're setting up for the filming, you see Marina
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[SPEAKER_01]: Scaling the cage, no problem on the other side, right in the shot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Meanwhile, the baby faces are standing around outside the cage with their thumbs up their asses.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Apparently the cage can just be lifted.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And why didn't anybody lift the cage?
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[SPEAKER_01]: What was Tony doing?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Tony, Tony, Kyle is back to God.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Should I lift it for him?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like, uh, make a prank climb.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I might try and climb it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know where the bucks are holding onto that cage, but nobody brought any of this up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And find whatever.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And meanwhile, like, was it five minutes earlier, Darby had scaled that cage like it was a freaking, you know, like we're like you're doing the high school athletics test.
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[SPEAKER_01]: you know, and you're running up and running up a thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but yeah, it was, it was, that was all bizarre.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I mean, it was well done in a sense.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But again, it was all like so set up and again, by the, you know, by the fact that they did that video, which was a great video.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But it was all, it was basically telling you like, this is the last time you can see Will for a while.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll, you know, I'll be honest, I was left a little flat by the end of MJF and Hangman.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just, well, they, I was like, oh, bad.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What?
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[SPEAKER_01]: They screwed up that finish.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Who?
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[SPEAKER_01]: MJF and Hangman.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, did they?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So what they told us tonight was what was supposed to happen, but it's not what actually happened.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because what happened was MJF got a pin on Hangman.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Reft counts one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The Reft counts two.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The Reft counts three.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Three.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then he dies.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then
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[SPEAKER_01]: Mark Brisco comes out after the ref is dead and the story now is that Mark Brisco cost MJF the match because and then Mark's story is that I was going to make sure that same thing that happened to me didn't happen to hangman.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Meanwhile, he had nothing to do with it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was, so I know now, and he's, I know what was supposed to happen.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just not what actually happened.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, and then even, you know, I even, even the part where Hangman hits him with the contract to get the pin.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's kind of like, okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's stupid Cody.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, that's true.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, that's true, but it's just like, well, you're going to be to many ways.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And just it was like, okay, cool, whatever.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was kind of interested in the discourse after as well, because there were a lot of thought pieces about, you know, well, serve an Osprey or leaving for a while, who's going to step up?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, how much you make, hang man, the actual guy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: the jump of this company.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, the code make him the star because now you don't have any of these baby faces.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Drawing heat having better matches or whatever to go on well, maybe we should belt him here or there the other place.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You could make hangman the actual star of this show.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And they're trying in some ways, but it's it's almost like Tony is trying to do both because he's overthinking how to do it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's being built around mocks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, like even now, like Moxy Darby was what this tonight show is all about.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, guys, we saved the company from the deathwriters.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We got the belt back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Deathwriters and main event, deathwriters, main event of forbidden door, deathwriters, main event of dynamite.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now let's hope that Darby maybe he gets rid of Mox once and for all at all out and then you know that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I promise you, I'll stop stop because Daniel Garcia is going to ruin that match.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he's going to, yeah, he's going to turn.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, so that was, but I did like, okay, so we, you know, said some of the stuff that was bad about, I did like the show.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought it was the, the formatting of the show was good in the sense that like it built.
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[SPEAKER_01]: to, you know, to the good stuff at the end.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So as you're going, you're like, okay, it did feel long.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I thought some of the early stuff maybe we didn't need, but once it got going, it was pretty good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I did like, you know, I mean, the last three matches, I had all it four and a half stars are better.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I didn't feel anything was important.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There were things that were good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Don't get me wrong.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's one of these things where
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[SPEAKER_00]: And this is also me writing stories in my head a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'll admit that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Full out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Don Cal's family should be ascending heavily right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And instead of doing that, and they're, like, that story is correct.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The story of the Don Cals family once the world heavyweight championship is the correct story to take.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Given the guys that are in there, the big dudes and crap like that, and Cals is obsessed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he should be talking about, I'm gonna run Hangman out of this business, I'm gonna destroy him, and I'm gonna take the title, et cetera, et cetera.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And as he said, he's got half the locker room.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He has half the lock room.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's like your run a challenger.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But we should not be doing the Takeshda Okada split yet.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it feels like it's coming like next week.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It feels like they're rushing it because, oh, we don't have enough baby faces out there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Whatever, we gotta do no.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, you have hangman.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's the only baby face you need right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You need to build that guy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you've got people backing him up like Darby and Kenny.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, I don't want to know about the internal politics of the Don Cals family until everybody's kind of failed at taking out hangman and then they can bicker with one another as to whose fault it is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They don't have the title, et cetera.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's a natural progression of these things and feels like well, we added Wardlow.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We need to take out to cash to us so we can have a good guy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: what they needed tonight was uh... the uh... you remember uh... member bewitched when they were placed jaren the two parents and then the one week the of the voice over just said playing the part of you know they they needed a voice over tonight playing the part of land's archer wardlow yeah you know what it is it's very WWE in a way
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[SPEAKER_00]: because like they did they've done this now with the with the Seth Rollins group in that they've almost instantly started to turn brown breaker.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He was in there and you're just like, no, I want to see these guys jell a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Do things.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, they want tonight.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They want to which I actually was not expecting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The guy who won shock me too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Cool.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I saw that thing and it's like, okay, Josh, I'm just losing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's probably getting pinned by, you know, Brody.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Bandit, oh, maybe.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But no, it was the right call because, you know, you know, well, I mean, the only other better call would have been heteroceros beating heteroceros beating a bandit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I wouldn't do that, but maybe Kenny King or Kevin Knight, sorry.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He isn't a challenging for the title this week.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He is, but I don't think you beat Bandito.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, that is WWE.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, but, but you do it in a more chicanorous way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You could.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you could.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You could.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, all right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's talk about this card.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think we got anything I'll say about forbidden or do it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, no.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I really don't.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They had a nice crowd.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, they had almost eighteen thousand.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's kind of shaking.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, they claimed almost nineteen thousand.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was eight to nine.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Eighteen nine nine two was what they claim.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Result ticks had it at like seventeen five.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think the key was is they wanted to announce a number that was bigger than WWE's attendance that they had there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it probably was bigger like I'm not saying that they're lying, but and WWE is probably lying too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, but they did they did announce a
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Fernando thinks it was the second best paper view of the year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I wouldn't go that far, but it was good show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: For a W or just in general, paper view.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, even if it's just a W, like, I think all in was great.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's definitely better.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'd have to think back to the other ones.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I guess there's only been like four, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Five, maybe?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Dynastee, W or nothing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: W or nothing, I think was good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't or it was.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, it was.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought a revolution was good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, revolution was really good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'd have to go back and look, but there it was good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's hard for me to compare unless it's really, really bad or really, really awesome.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I decided for me to remember that too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So they were at the the former ECW arena, the twenty thirty three hundred arena.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to talk about this controversy with the workers.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I, you know, okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, not at all.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just laugh now when I look at the twenty two hundred arena because it is no way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What I remember it to be the time I went.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I went decades ago at the high to ECW.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it was one of those.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I went to the performance center in Orlando in twenty twenty three.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it looked like that on TV.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like it I know it doesn't really look like that, but that's what it looked like.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like no, no, no, no, this looks all cleaned up and professional and stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It actually looks pretty good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I kind of like the one thing I really didn't like that was different, and it's not like the performance center.
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[SPEAKER_01]: is the way the the aisle like the leading into and out of the dressing room like although it did force them because you have the heels and the baby face is coming out of the same area they have to do things a little bit differently this time but it made for some interesting like brawls and you know in and out of the ring stuff that they normally don't do so that I did like yeah I don't feel like I'd be fearing for my life this time if I went to the twenty two hundred arena
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, well, they started out like during the when FTR was coming in, I thought, okay, this can be wild because the fans like, and I normally skip the entrances, but I forgot to and and I'm watching like the fan like totally get into a cash wheeler and the now the the they're censoring it like crazy because the guys just on camera going fuck you can fuck you it's like they're
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that guy might be a former worker.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, really?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because he had a, he had some kind of relationship with Daniel Garcia when he came out to.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I didn't, I didn't notice that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: At that point, I was right on the fast forward button during the things.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But no, it was, so yeah, they were there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They did the intros from the bring side.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was Ian Excalibur and Taz.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So unfortunately, no Daniel Bryan or Bryan Danny said that's that's over.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They ran down the card.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They announced a John Moxley versus Daniel Garcia.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I looked at the lineup like an hour before the show and this match wasn't on it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So this was a total last minute ad.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's fine, you know, whatever it doesn't matter.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that kicked off the show.
20:47.659 --> 20:53.283
[SPEAKER_01]: They showed the Osprey angle, which is smart because apparently a bunch, some of the cable providers cut it off.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it was the credit game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it came up like some of the cable companies shut it off.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, they're not not a lot, but Dave on residents of radio was saying that there was a few systems that cut it off.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it was a good thing that they showed it here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then I noticed that the building looked tiny on TV, you know, I think they set it up for like nine hundred.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, that's, you know, like a third of what they normally do and what they normally do isn't that huge.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, I mean, it made for rowdy crowd at times, especially during this opening segment.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, FTR, so for a promo, I noted that the fan was screaming and then they had to
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[SPEAKER_01]: edit and then that that's couldn't get his mic working and then it was working but he didn't know it was working and that's why we said a couple minutes fans are chatting well it was coming through the TV but may not have been coming through in the arena gotcha okay so he couldn't hear himself and he didn't know if the fans could hear him but eventually they could
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then he says, unfortunately on Sunday, there was a miscarriage of justice that forbidden door.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know there are a ton of people around the world, especially in Philly that couldn't wait to celebrate the eleventh time champions, FTR, fans are chatting shut the fuck up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: As a Sunday at forbidden door, the illegal man pinned me, the illegal man pinned me on Sunday and the man I want to talk to is right here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So for some reason, Paul Turner was in the ring, even though there was no reason for him to be there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And of course, Dax is bullying him and he says, Paul, how long has this been your profession?
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[SPEAKER_01]: He says, twenty-seven years, sir.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Paul has been an official for twenty-seven years.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You got a wife and kid, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're here tonight, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Can you imagine going home to your wife and kid and telling them you failed at your job because of an incompetent moron?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Paul's like, nope.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He said, that'd be the worst thing in your life.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I had to tell my family that I failed.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So now to write this wrong, all I need you to do is admit your wrong, reverse the decision and name FTR, the brand new A, W, world tag team champions.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And Paul is like, no, fortunately, to actually my decision's final.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what, Paul, I'm going to do something that no one in this company has done.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to tell you to your face, you're a moron and, or no, this is stoically actually talking.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, moron, an imbecile and a complete nincom poop.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You want to appease the online fans and the fans here and the fans are chatting no ho at him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He says you want to appease these degenerates.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You want to do the right thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, hop off your and whatever he said got bleached.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I think it was probably hop off these fans dicks and do something like that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that would be it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he says, I think they're trying to go a little bit for the spirit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought they're going to do this originally with cash and and decks of those old Dudley.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Pro.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I can see that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then he says, you're an idiot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Our Paul says to soak your an idiot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Docs shoved them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then Edges music hits and out he comes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And the FDR is all ready for him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then Christian from behind gave Stoke the Emperor prettier.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Then he starts beating on FTR.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Edges jumped in.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But the refs came down, Fadgetchent and Holy Shit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're brawling in another ring.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Fadgetchent and this is awesome.
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[SPEAKER_01]: At one point, Edges and Christian were two on one on DAX.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And eventually, FTR left the ring and they left edge and Christian in there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And Christian gets a mic and he says, that forbidden door, we took care of my problem, not it's time to take care of Adam's problem.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And hey, Dax, I understand you have a father.
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[SPEAKER_01]: the fans pop and he says cash you have a father as well don't you and cop takes a mic from he's like no no no in the fans boo and then it cop's like yeah you're all bunch of sickos fine and they all cheer and then he says and that bitch is dead what he's talking about his dad like I don't I think so okay so cash is cash is that is that doesn't matter
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then Coke grabs the mic back and he says, listen to me now, open up your goddamn ears.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's set in stone all out Toronto September, twentieth in our hometown of Toronto for the first time ever at CNC.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was waiting for the rest of factory, but no, you just said CNC.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe it's coming.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he says, time that I take my pound of flesh.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we have a match for for Bindor.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Edge and Christian and FTR.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we're like a month out and we're already got matches.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I overall was good rough start.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, there's a fun brawl and this may have been like the most heated the crowd was all night was was during the segment.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So two dose for them as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I love just watching Stokely be dead.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's like carried his dead carcass to the back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, but even with the fight starts, he gets dumped outside and he's laying outside the ground.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're kind of stepping around him to the brawl and stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I held at that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That was great.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's he is he is he better get some more.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He works for FTR pretty well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I did not think that that was worth.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't think to either.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, and it's definitely worth.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So let me get a Darby-Allet tape promo and he said, uh, to everyone that wished I died on Mount Everest, I apologize on him still here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know who that would be, but he says, I dreamed a lot about this mox.
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[SPEAKER_01]: When I said I was taking everything from you, I meant everything.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Your title, your career, your livelihood.
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[SPEAKER_01]: When I was going up and down Mount Everest, I saw the bodies and I cried.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But at the end of the day, life is just a fifteen minute ride and it's not about the ride, it's about what happens that fifteen minutes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All the bullshit you put people through, you're taking these precious moments away from them and I'm never going to stop coming after you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They told me don't step on this mountain unless you're willing to die for this and I'm telling you, John, don't step in the ring with me unless you plan to die for it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: at all out, I take everything and I mean everything from you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So at this point, I assumed the match was signed because he didn't challenge him, he flat out said the match was happening.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I assumed the matches happening, but later on, Moxie would say no, matches an happening.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I liked the promo.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That was really good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I will accept this type of pretentiousness from Darby Allen.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I liked it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, the thing is, if anybody else said what he said, it would make no sense.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But with him, you believe everything.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think he actually did look at bodies on the way up and cry.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I wouldn't surprise me one bit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So this leads to John Moxley versus Daniel Garcia.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This match was wild.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And like I don't mean wild as in like it was wild like the main event was wild.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean it was just it was bizarre.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So they told us at the start of this match they talked about the cation and and how Tony commented made a ruling in the press conference after that the cation now has to be done seven days in advance.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not sure why they felt need to mention it here, but I'm glad they told us.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and the crowd wasn't really into the match at all.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They were chanting fuck you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, and I'm not even sure if he was out there at that point.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't he came out later.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, let's let's pause for a second.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Garcia did none of the dancing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He teased it, but he didn't actually do it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, I missed that because I fast forwarded through them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, no, he came out far more a little bit serious and then in the preamble a bit to the match, it's kind of mockingly telling you to marine it a back off of Garcia too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Matt's questioning the fact that the crowd wasn't into it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I said at the beginning, they got into it as it went on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like by the end it was pretty hot, but I'm just talking like right at the beginning, they were kind of quiet and not really reacting and chanting about people that weren't even there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We should also mention the with Garcia at the paper view he
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[SPEAKER_01]: He kind of sees that he was going to turn on Nigel.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He gave us check off towel.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We were there going to watch it throw him and then they never did.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, and then they did the promo segment after where like it looked like he was going to turn on him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm inclined to tip my cap for those.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I really am.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's what those things were just like
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[SPEAKER_00]: But they're drawing it out way too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They did almost make our scene to something if he actually turns down the deathwriters and you know, because they need baby faces and right now nobody cares about the anti Garcia.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So if he actually spurned the deathwriters and hangments stuck up for him like maybe, you know, I think
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think I like that idea, but not as a baby face.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I like him as being more out of control healed than the death writers that they can't control, it may be they create a monster of which they may have to eventually have to deal with.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's something I got to ask you about, and it's fairly soon, but there's something I thought was going to happen that didn't happen.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, let's do it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're thinking when it happened.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so, but then I noticed, like after the chance, there was a dual chant, but the second part of it was pretty light, where the fans are chanting, fuck you, Yuda, and then we have a few people chanting, we love Yuda.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then, so then I noticed, okay, Yuda is there, but daddy magic was there as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he gets in Marina's face, and he starts yelling at her, and she liked backed off, which is bizarre, because she never backs off from anybody.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And for some reason, she didn't backed off from, from Bernard.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So Garcia went for an ankle lock, and Moxy was selling it really big, and we went into break.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And when we came back, crowd was like super into it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't know what happened during that break, but they must have gotten into whatever was going on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And Moxy was selling like crazy, and Garcia's just like, Garcia's basically like kicking the shit out of Moxy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He hit a superplex.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he's telling the need and Garcia like went to hit him with something and he bounced off him and walks he's like come on come on like it was almost like he was sparing him on he hit the Nigel clothes line for two and then mocks hit a cutter out of nowhere fans actually started chanting let's go Danny
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[SPEAKER_01]: Mox went for the death rider.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Garcia blocked it, which almost never happens.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he hit the put on the Canadian Maple Leaf.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Mox makes the ropes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Then Mox is like limping on the outside.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Garcia followed him out there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He got poked in the eye.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Mox had a DDT on the ring steps.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They teased a countout.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And a fan actually helped him up and helped him get back to the ring.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Back in the ring, Moxie had an arm break around, Garcia reversed it, put on the dragon tamer, Moxie grabbed him in a choke, Garcia reversed that into a pile jar for a near fall, and then Moxie just created him on a nowhere and got the pin, and like it was basically like Moxie escaped with his life, which he never see Moxie doing that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I thought it was really interesting what they did here, like Moxie was clearly trying to make Garcia in this match.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I think they were trying to see and it's weird because they're doing this almost too subtly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think they were trying to tell the story of of Moxley telling his guys to stay away from from Garcia because he wants Garcia to break and do something violent to him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hmm.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And this is the reason he wanted them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He wanted the death rights to let him do it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's the emperor and skywalker type of thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Gotcha.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But but this is also the second or third roll up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think full didn't flat your beat them with a seat belt.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he gives it and he gives this blank look afterwards like I can do a lot more of these finishes too lately like where they're like just finishes out of nowhere, not with the finishers, which
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[SPEAKER_01]: I like because then you're more into the match because you know what can end at any time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But what I'm saying is there's a pattern here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Fletcher to this is a Garcia.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think Dustin Rhodes also did the quick roll up to Garcia and that
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[SPEAKER_00]: in the fatal four-way match at all in Texas.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So eventually, he's going to snap.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's the story they're telling here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And what they're trying to say is that Moxley's trying to accelerate the snap.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So maybe he'll be like against the baby face when he actually snaps.
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[SPEAKER_00]: my biggest Nigel again.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, or yeah, but yeah, that's what's gonna happen there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think, you know, I found Moxley funny after after the match where he's just doing the, just by that much, just by that much.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because they showed, they showed him and after the match, they came in Garcia were like in each other's face, but Moxley was like,
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[SPEAKER_00]: like he was pretty civil and he was like, hey, you know, no, Mike's no one on the outside of the ring, what he was doing was he was trying to get in there to talk to Garcia and whisper things in his ear to get him over there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I thought it was kind of misstaged because I thought daddy magic should be the one shoving him away from that and that Garcia would be because Garcia was kind of doing that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I kind of want to talk to him thing, but then he'd shove him away too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was as little as little messy on on on on thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, yeah, when you say it's whispering, I thought it was kissing him, but yeah, okay, that makes more sense.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's whispering.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And we learned.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It looked like kissing at first.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it was like, okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We learned.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're like getting into it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you recall, like there's some like even backstage stuff where like at the whole time when we learned Garcia, we're both like up and coming, you know, like no card baby faces.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That that Jericho.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Garcia.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that kept him a webbip but Brian Daniels and wanted him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and Mark's like a wheeler.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And now it's so there are kind of always been in the same spot and they were kind of at each other's face.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you almost get the sense like if Mark's succeeded in getting our CEO, you might just dump wheeler.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought that was going to be the story when wheeler was being a screw up and things like that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But then they went away from it too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, just like the Statelander thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so yeah, so moxley handed Wheeler of Mike.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is actually before the stuff that happened outside the room with Garcia mox and Wheeler cuts the promo for moxley.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He says Darby Allen, John moxley's not going to waste his breath dancing your challenge.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The answers know and he put the mic down and then they did all the stuff we already talked about.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So back we go we go to break we come back and we went back in the ring and he's got a mic again.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We got two promo statements with Wheeler Yuda.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yep, and he says look.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I got a lot left to say and this show won't continue until I say my piece.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I live in this city.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I used to do rank crew in this building as a teenager.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Banzer chatting shut the fuck up and Wheeler like a total pro.
35:53.254 --> 35:56.256
[SPEAKER_01]: He says I broke bones in this building and this is what it got me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It got me shut the F up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It got me F you Yuda.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you know what, used to bother me how little y'all disrespect me and then I realized something.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm a deathrider and your cheers don't mean jack shit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What did your cheers mean for Will Osprey?
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[SPEAKER_01]: He left for Bendorna Stretcher.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What did your cheers mean for Chuck Taylor?
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's got a broken neck and what did they do for the American Dragon, Brian Danielson?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I slayed the dragon and replaced him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then the lights went out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I thought for sure it was Brian Dan.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm an idiot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And to say, I was disappointed with what we got.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought it was, too, but it wasn't before I made the joke, Saboo's back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that's what we're supposed to think.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So you thought Dan is into that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that was what I didn't ask you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it wasn't just me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But no, it was hook with his god awful new music.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What?
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[SPEAKER_01]: What are they thinking with this music?
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[SPEAKER_01]: The music's bad.
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[SPEAKER_00]: His look hasn't changed all that much.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, except his demeanor hasn't passed now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: His demeanor hasn't changed all that much.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's still the same gimmick.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just, hey, hooks back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not a reintroduction.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's no new gimmick to it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like we're not even asking about that thing with the ops.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's just a ring.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He takes his time gets in the ring.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We were just standing there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he puts the choke on him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Then he let him go.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Then he gave him a Superman punch.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he posed.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that was that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Left the ring.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Is that okay?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's hooks back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So they thought, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know what?
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[SPEAKER_00]: This was something else because I don't know if you thought this, does you fast forward through a lot of things?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, just their entrances.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought they were anticipating a chant and they didn't get it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're really gonna chant.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, look, look.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, I thought the East, they thought the ECW Arena was gonna chant, look.
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[SPEAKER_00]: As he walked around the ring twice to then go up the stairs and he never got the chant.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I just, I start to go,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, they were anticipating something that's not there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a lot of people in Chamfer, Saboo.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm surprised they didn't, honestly, because I mean, that was totally a Saboo tribute.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But when he mentioned Brian Danyson and then the music, I was like, okay, maybe we're going to get Danyson.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, I was waiting for the final countdown.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, or just, you know, like the man that that place would have lost it if he would have come out and just kick wheelchair off and posed.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, it wasn't to be.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And we got a tape promo from MJF in London and this is pretty good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he's like, is this what you want?
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[SPEAKER_01]: The MJF interview, the famous MJF interview.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He says, you want me to be cocky after that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All the fans know my point.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm bleeding buckets and you chant you deserve it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hangman page is bleeding buckets and you can't cowboys shit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You can't you deserve it as I'm getting this bash into my skull and he throws a contract down.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm a generational talent the best on the mic best on the ring.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I did you a favor and when I see you again, trust me boy, or I did you a favor by releasing you when I see you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna trust you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm no longer gonna execute my right or I kind of lost it here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Tony Khan told him he's no longer has the right to execute the contract whenever he wants.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Since Hangman, you want to call me a coward.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I assure you there's only one man who's going to be able to take that belt from you and it's mgf.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And when I sign this contract, it won't be for a match.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to be for your soul.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And my name is Maxwell Jacob Friedman, and I'm better than you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And once I've done with Mark Brisco, you'll know it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He said some stuff about what Mark Brisco and here, too, that I didn't catch down.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He tried to claim that Mark Brisco costs in the match, which didn't happen, not even close.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But that's probably why I didn't write it down because it was bullshit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But overall it's good promo, but they're trying to retconis into thinking that what we saw is what?
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[SPEAKER_01]: You what you saw is what didn't happen.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And what's the wording with the Jedi the Jedi mind tricks of what you see is not what you saw or something.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't.
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[SPEAKER_00]: These are the droids you're looking for.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, but it was an intense promo.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's an unlike MJ.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sorry.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was reading something.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, brisco and the babies.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that's coming here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, no, but, but there was one where he had it off the, he had the baby with, with the conglomeration.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He handed off the baby to Kylo Riley.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you recall, and now on this one, it's another baby and he's just talking to whoever has an off camera.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to say some things.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Take that baby away.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, baby away.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Mark Mark Brisco needs a child as a prop for every for every promo.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what I've decided.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we get the Mark Brisco promo comments in.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But first, we would get Megan, Bane, and Penelty Ford against Harley Cameron and Chris Stattlander.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So on the, double or nothing or the forbidden door, pre-show.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Did you catch that, uh, uh, cross out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll start.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, sorry, woman tag.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, just Stattlander and Willow were teammates.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, for all this, they're just teammates.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now to be fair, they did tease dissension while the tease dissension.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They flat out had dissension.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I mean, it's still, it was weird because after all that, you know, team with me, no, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, I'll say this unless you count gummy bears versus the young bucks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh God.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we got we got Harley chance at the beginning and it wasn't much going on before the break and after they came back, they still kind of weren't into it, but then it picked up when Stattlander made her hot tag.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She ran wild.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They did a spot where
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[SPEAKER_01]: Penelope was setting up for her, like, whatever that thing is where she does the thing across the ring.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what it's called, but the, you know, the thing trying to use to do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And, and she, but she's setting up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what she's aiming at, but she ended up hitting Megan.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then, stat lander and bane were tossing Penelope back and forth to each other.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then when Penelope tossed her to stat, that's when stat on hit with the stunner.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that was kind of cool.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Megan was like flying all over the place, hitting these flying close lines.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She did got one for a near fall, Harley made the save.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They pointed out that Harley was bleeding from the nose even though she was wearing a mask, so hopefully she's okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Bain and Ford, Miss double moon salts, the baby faces nailed them with rust kick.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Then the face is hit stump thin and a scalver called it combination offense.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Tass called it a crazy ass pendulum gimmick and then eventually they were all down after hitting all their moves and the crowd exploded and then stat lander somehow secured a leg triangle.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, you know what that what I mean the the pendulum thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it was the house pendulum thing trademark.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yes, you know, well, Stadlander had had Penelope in a belly to back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Or what, yeah, it was, it was Penelope and then it looked like Harley was going to do like a three D. Some of some guy, but instead she runs under it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She just kind of grabs the leg and flips it down.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And they do us and then I think make it be landed on our face.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Whatever they were trying to do, they didn't do, but it still was effective, just wasn't exactly what they were trying to do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it was it was interesting, but yeah, it's that lined it up winning with a triangle.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then immediately the heels attacked.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And Willow made the save and then there were some tense moments in Willow and Stattlander, then Harley got in between them, raised both their hands.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Crowd was chanting, how get out?
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[SPEAKER_01]: They didn't.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's dumb.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Match wasn't very good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm aologist for three of the women in this match at various times in my dynamite show career.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Just wasn't good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was some good moments, but they had ideas for set pieces and they weren't working out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like the tossing Penelope thing was rough.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was a nice little move.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I like Penelope and Megan as a unit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Boy, I would put Megan Bane in the Calis family.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, since he has all the big guys just putting Megan Bane in there with that head rest and shit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're going to bring in a woman and they can be Megan Bane.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right, right now it's going to be Pazilla.
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[SPEAKER_00]: people were raving over booze.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, she, I mean, she, I mean, put it this way.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If I, if I'm running a company, I'm signing her, but I'm not pushing her right away.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, she's not ready.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I'm running a company.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm asking Megan Bain to see if she can get out of her contract.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, there's that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because she is ready.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, she could be feudal with reapply right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She just had, yes, she has such a presence.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: She should be she should be the one like with Tony and she's probably beat Tony honestly And then you know Tony can chase her and that could be like a big money match down the road to her get in the title back for Megan All right So we go to break we come back and Renee is hosting the Mercedes championship celebration and I was gonna ask you something and I'm not gonna ask you on there, but I'll just point out she was wearing a black jacket and the crowd
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[SPEAKER_01]: You may know what I was going to ask you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think I knew, but you know, I can ask you on air.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I mean, is this the Hogan thing?
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[SPEAKER_01]: No.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, never mind.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was something that they were comparing her gear on on Saturday.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm, there's something I actually noticed in a couple of weeks ago.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And all right, well, continue and you're gonna ask me later.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So the crowd was chanting CEO and she said, Philly, say hello to the one, two, three, four, five.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You just count all her belts, Renee's counting with her.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And she said, and then Renee says, let's talk about your historic week in the UK.
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[SPEAKER_01]: As she says, you had a successful dynamite where you got wins over Tony storm now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's Windsor, the six person match at Rev Pro, then the next night at Rev Pro, you won your ninth championship and then you retain your TBS championship in a four way of all things.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so what do you feel?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And she says, what do I feel on the greatest of all time?
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm a history maker, a record breaker, but before you ask me what's next, Ultimo Dragon had ten titles, and I'm going to smash that record.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So in any woman out there with a title, I'm coming for you, and you're going to love the taste of Monday.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then she said, I'd be remiss if you didn't mention Alex Windsor and Alex Windsor nearly tapped you out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then Renee or of money takes offense to that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Just as are you stupid are you dumb.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was not legal.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I wasn't tapping out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was swatin away a bug.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I do not care about this Alex Windsor.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Alex Windsor has it up for me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You like that?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was waiting for it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I knew it was coming, too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's the thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, just wait.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's another one of those coming later.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm a better refro champion than she ever was.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe it's because I was dancing all over her man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: William, I love it when you do the CEO dance.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Alex Windsor wants to ride the Manetrain again.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What's she'll be in a hospital right next to her husband?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm nine belts, Manetrain.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's time to celebrate.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then she danced, and I'm waiting.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm waiting.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Somebody's going to come on, Jalanger.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Nope.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought for sure, some champion from somewhere that I'd forgotten about was going to show up, but no.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But that seems to be the direction.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hi.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Again, I'm the person who said they need to form this company around Mercedes at one point.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if I love her, I hate this kind of vapid interview by Mercedes, because it's never gotten past this point to me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is the same CEO as the beginning of the CEO, gimmick.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I've watched this, and I didn't like this promo, Paul.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's one of these things where it's like,
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a very almost WWE like gimmick in terms of I just want to come out here in dance like you're a heel cut a heel promo do a little bit more You know have losses affect her a little bit wins can affect her too, but losses need to affect her as well And this is a I'm just no selling every loss, and I'm the CEO and I'm gonna dance and I'm gonna say the name of the town I'm in and I'm just watching this I'm going I'm waiting for another
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm waiting for another gear here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Jennifer Peppermint and it ain't coming.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if Renee's like being basically like her cheerleader helps either.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, like, yeah, it's unique.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, it's one of those things where, you know, like you have the baby face to answer, that is actually, you know, like, siding with heel, but just the one heel.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's unique and then obviously their friends and they've been friends for years to go back to NXT.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, but yeah, it's, it's interesting.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Then we go and Excalibur says that we sent our cameras to Sadie Fork Delaware.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was excited.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's Mark Risco course and he says, Philly, what's going on, baby?
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know this building is extremely important to the history of the briskos.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is where it all started.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I promise I got a good reason why I wasn't able to make it up there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then he brings in baby Mac brisco, the latest member of the crew.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he says, but I got something to say, and it's not suitable for such pure infant ears.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is the best.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so he had something.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was, I was hoping platinum sick would come in and take the baby.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That would be, that would be something.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he says, she didn't even say anything that bad.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's like, MJF, it's been one week since you threatened to set me on fire.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, what made, what made the gimmick was the lucky game whoever the off camera person was about what he was about to say.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You can just maybe away.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Get this baby out of here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So he's like, empty.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I've been one week to threaten to set me on fire.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I'm going to take all your hope streams and aspirations and to set them on fire.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I made sure you didn't pick up that fluke winning and sat on page like you did on dynamite two weeks ago against me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So next time I see you, I'm going to let your ass up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You said I can't win the big one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, that takes me to another nemesis of mine.
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[SPEAKER_01]: TNT champion, Kyle Fletcher.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I heard a couple of weeks ago your name came out of my mouth.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, we had a hell of a rivalry.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Two in each will let me make it a plane and simple Kyle Fletcher.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm challenging you for the TNT title.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to be in Philly here for a little while.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I can make it down there before we leave.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So Kyle, are you going to man up?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that was that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then the fans chanted man up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that was that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Anything to add.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Did I miss anything?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think I did.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, but it's it's such a weird pivot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was very sudden.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the Kyle Flutcher.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, all right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Cool.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess they're building a match for like three weeks from now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, probably the last week they're in Philadelphia.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, you know, they can you belt him?
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[SPEAKER_01]: No.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I told you what my plan would be.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's beaten MJ for that ring.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They use the ring again on Saturday.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's coming.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's coming.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's going to win that ring.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's probably going to shove it up in Jf's.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, the, but there was a part of me that goes, well, maybe if they want Fletcher to go after Hangman.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you could.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, there's nothing wrong with it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I think he should as the TNT champion say, and hey, this is the second most important title in this company, maybe roughly a few feathers of Ocata over here by saying that or something.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You could, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, trust me, I would not complain if they did it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just, I'm just not expecting it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So Justin Roberts was out there to do the, to do the intros for the next match, which was just the all-star eight-man tag.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But before he can get a word out, Vicky Guerrero's.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not Vicky Guerrero.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not Vicky Guerrero.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not Vicky Guerrero.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not Vicky Guerrero.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not Vicky Guerrero.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not Vicky Guerrero.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not Vicky Guerrero.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not Vicky Guerrero.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not Vicky Guerrero.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not Vicky Guerrero.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not Vicky Guerrero.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not Vicky Guerrero.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not Vicky Guerrero.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not Vicky Guerrero.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not Vicky Guerrero.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not Vicky Guerrero.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not Vicky Guerrero.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not Vicky Guerrero.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not Vicky Guerrero.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not Vicky
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[SPEAKER_01]: La Cuidada de Philadelphia and we we ignorant it's my great pleasure to introduce to you from Monterey.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like Wardlow is trying to keep the straight face.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like why does he's doing this?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I got to tell you like my daughter hates a W. She won't.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She won't watch it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But she, it also self laughing whenever dog callous does this intro.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She loves it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought, are they in fantastic?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it makes sense.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're seriously like a big deal to it does.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It does.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he's like, he's going to pop a blood vessel at some point, like when he's doing this because what I did was, like, one tenth of what John Cales did.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, he is, it's, it's amazing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, so he introduces him and then everybody else comes out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I had Justin, I'm sure introduced them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I hit the fast forward button four times.
54:40.553 --> 54:43.717
[SPEAKER_01]: And it was Ocada, hit to Sarah, Josh Alexander to catch us.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, this is like almost their team against jet speed and brodito.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And Calis joined a team for commentary.
54:52.991 --> 54:55.812
[SPEAKER_01]: They're plugging the ROH title match on Friday like this should.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Calis said he had reveditos are banditos number.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And, uh, Ocada to catch that one point tagged in at the same time and they got into each other's face.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Ocadaian says, uh, to catch the one, the G one and Ocada is the greatest tournament champion of all time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so I actually think that the reason Don Callis hasn't mentioned that that to catch the one the G one is on purpose because he doesn't want to offend Ocata because Ocata is his meal ticket and to catch those like his back up, you know, in in in callis's mind because Callis, you know, he, Callis has a pecking order whether or not that's the actual pecking order, but the character of Don Callis has a has a favorite and he has a second favorite and and actually Kyle Fletcher's probably his favorite.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But anyways, Brody as they were staring at each other took him out with a clothes line.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then they went through a break.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Crowd was like super hot like when they came back.
55:53.504 --> 55:54.885
[SPEAKER_01]: Kevin night made a hot tag.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He ran wild.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Then everyone came in and they all did their moves.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it finished off with Brody hitting a rolling elbow and hit a several.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Then they hit each other with flying cross bodies.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And at that point, the fans gave them all a standing go.
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[SPEAKER_01]: uh... speedball to kester were legal men to kester got the best room for a little wild and bayley hit his double knees all the heels broke it up like all of them at the same time so that was their back on the same page now then they all hit moves on speedball in and up with kester uh... in there with bayley hit them with a lariat
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[SPEAKER_01]: And Ocada was not pleased because he was about to hit something and Kesha just kind of pushed him away.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Then Kesha tagged in Josh Alexander and then he hit he had a dive after making a tag onto all the baby faces.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Then Bailey rolled up Alexander for two.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Ocada came in Kevin night took him out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Bailey hit a thrust kick and her caron on Alexander went to the top rope, but he missed a shooting star press and Josh Alexander rolled him up for the win.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, I mean, Josh got a win, a guy missed a move and it cost him the match.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There was just so much good stuff in there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, I thought this match was really good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, other than the main event, it was the best thing on the show like in terms of matches.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought, yeah, this is the party match.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's interesting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, they have the A team here because the next segment's definitely the B team of the townhouse family coming out for the world champion, which is a bit of a problem.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought, but okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's true.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because you just give them it, but does give them an excuse of, oh, they were tired from the match.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So they didn't come out except for Josh Alexander.
57:36.033 --> 57:38.015
[SPEAKER_00]: It was running on adrenaline.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I wanted to do something here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Our background changes for a second.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You're still there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hang on, don't wait a minute.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Sorry.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Backstage.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You kicked me out of the room.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Sorry.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That was good to try to do something.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It probably wouldn't work.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Anyways, I got to figure it out for next time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What's recent?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you listen to the F. I came podcast?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was gonna try to do that thing that Garrett has with it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I couldn't find the file.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll get a soundboard for you Paul.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You can do all your wacky morning DJ stuff if you all right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The only one I got is this one.
58:27.752 --> 58:28.432
[SPEAKER_01]: I fucked up.
58:28.833 --> 58:29.333
[SPEAKER_01]: I was worth it.
58:29.433 --> 58:30.673
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, so that was that was fun.
58:33.535 --> 58:36.296
[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, and as you said, well, we'll get into this promo right away.
58:36.336 --> 58:39.177
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, it was like, you're wondering who's going to who's next?
58:39.237 --> 58:43.379
[SPEAKER_01]: And then it was like, yeah, all the Rocky.
58:43.740 --> 58:47.681
[SPEAKER_01]: Did you catch on when Dave was recapping the the free show?
58:48.242 --> 58:52.304
[SPEAKER_01]: And he's like, uh, he's like, yeah, Rocky Romero got pinned.
58:52.724 --> 58:54.064
[SPEAKER_00]: It's always Rocky.
58:54.305 --> 58:54.545
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
58:55.385 --> 58:57.066
[SPEAKER_01]: And then Rocky wasn't actually in the match.
58:57.906 --> 59:02.748
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it was actually in the original.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It actually is always.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Anyways, we go to break.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We come back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hangments in the ring for a promo.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Fans chatting Cowboys shitty says before I say anything.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I do want to say something to Will Osprey.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you for everything you've done for me this year and everything you've done for a W and the fans start chanting and it took a little while because they're trying to figure out which Will Osprey chant they wanted to do and they finally settled on Osprey, Osprey, Osprey, Osprey, Osprey and Hangman waited until they got their shit together.
59:31.340 --> 59:35.722
[SPEAKER_01]: And then he says, I genuinely, I'm sorry for how everything is turned out for you since all in.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I try to make it happen or not speaking for other people, but while you're all gone, every single one of us is going to miss you.
59:41.785 --> 59:43.226
[SPEAKER_01]: So recover, heal up.
59:43.266 --> 59:46.527
[SPEAKER_01]: And when the time is right, you can do what you're the best at.
59:46.567 --> 59:49.849
[SPEAKER_01]: And when you come back, you can come back and challenge me for this world championship.
59:50.569 --> 59:53.391
[SPEAKER_01]: He didn't say men's world championship was interesting because he usually does.
59:54.420 --> 59:57.501
[SPEAKER_01]: I says now about this championship Sunday it forbidden door.
59:57.521 --> 01:00:00.522
[SPEAKER_01]: Maxwell Jacob Friedman had a shot at this M.J.
01:00:00.662 --> 01:00:02.862
[SPEAKER_01]: F had a shot at this and he failed.
01:00:03.523 --> 01:00:05.103
[SPEAKER_01]: He's like screened out the word failed.
01:00:05.623 --> 01:00:12.125
[SPEAKER_01]: He says, Max, you threw everything you had at me every trick in the book and you still failed and I want you to remember that.
01:00:12.625 --> 01:00:17.807
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, after everything you've done in the last week, you now you have to give a seven day notice for you challenge for this again.
01:00:18.167 --> 01:00:25.050
[SPEAKER_01]: And that doesn't matter to me, Max, because if you ever find it in yourself to sign that contract, I'll beat your ass before the ink is dry on that contract.
01:00:25.810 --> 01:00:27.111
[SPEAKER_01]: That's good promo for me.
01:00:27.391 --> 01:00:37.175
[SPEAKER_00]: I thought it was, but let me, it's not criticism of the promo, promo is fine.
01:00:38.816 --> 01:00:39.616
[SPEAKER_00]: It's just odd.
01:00:40.849 --> 01:00:46.411
[SPEAKER_00]: that nobody's angry at the deathwriters and Gabe, kid for what they did to Will Osprey.
01:00:47.992 --> 01:00:48.292
[SPEAKER_00]: You know?
01:00:49.512 --> 01:00:51.753
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like I mean, as I told you.
01:00:51.933 --> 01:00:58.516
[SPEAKER_00]: And, but this also goes part and parcel to my theme of making a star.
01:01:00.076 --> 01:01:09.140
[SPEAKER_00]: If, say, Hangman was becoming a whiter on the ride against the cowboys,
01:01:10.667 --> 01:01:15.171
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, here and okay, we're taking all these guys out of took our boy out.
01:01:15.211 --> 01:01:24.240
[SPEAKER_00]: If he had gotten a little bit because like whenever somebody and look, this is going through my own realm of wrestling, I watched as a child and stuff like that.
01:01:26.762 --> 01:01:29.245
[SPEAKER_00]: If this had been dusty roads coming out.
01:01:30.592 --> 01:01:36.658
[SPEAKER_00]: and Magnum was put out or Sam Houston or Mani Fernandes or or whoever you want.
01:01:37.519 --> 01:01:39.341
[SPEAKER_00]: Dusty would be spin a sting.
01:01:39.721 --> 01:01:41.243
[SPEAKER_00]: Dusty would be very winnable.
01:01:41.763 --> 01:01:43.806
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that'd be a better thing.
01:01:43.826 --> 01:01:45.107
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I've very winnable gets put out.
01:01:45.227 --> 01:01:47.049
[SPEAKER_00]: Dusty's coming out as the champ and going
01:01:47.926 --> 01:01:49.007
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm praying for your baby.
01:01:49.027 --> 01:01:50.407
[SPEAKER_00]: Come on back, Thune, whatever.
01:01:51.228 --> 01:01:52.668
[SPEAKER_00]: But let me tell you something.
01:01:52.768 --> 01:01:52.988
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
01:01:53.068 --> 01:01:54.429
[SPEAKER_00]: And then we go.
01:01:54.869 --> 01:01:55.269
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
01:01:55.770 --> 01:01:57.851
[SPEAKER_00]: Hussman on Anderson.
01:01:58.111 --> 01:01:59.872
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
01:01:59.892 --> 01:02:00.232
[SPEAKER_00]: Whatever.
01:02:00.272 --> 01:02:01.372
[SPEAKER_00]: He'd be going into it.
01:02:01.752 --> 01:02:03.193
[SPEAKER_00]: And he'd be spit and fire.
01:02:03.673 --> 01:02:07.315
[SPEAKER_00]: And he'd be the one saying, I'm the one getting vengeance for this.
01:02:07.795 --> 01:02:10.656
[SPEAKER_00]: And then we'd all kind of be on the edge of our seat going.
01:02:11.697 --> 01:02:12.397
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, shit.
01:02:12.537 --> 01:02:13.398
[SPEAKER_00]: Here he comes.
01:02:13.478 --> 01:02:15.619
[SPEAKER_00]: Here comes the world champion.
01:02:16.557 --> 01:02:21.668
[SPEAKER_00]: And it also plays into what comes next in this entire thing.
01:02:21.748 --> 01:02:24.314
[SPEAKER_01]: So can I ask you something then Jeff?
01:02:24.895 --> 01:02:25.075
[UNKNOWN]: Sure.
01:02:26.432 --> 01:02:29.594
[SPEAKER_01]: Why couldn't the Calis family had been the one that put out Osprey?
01:02:30.455 --> 01:02:32.557
[SPEAKER_01]: That would have made so much more sense.
01:02:33.017 --> 01:02:34.298
[SPEAKER_01]: I would have loved that.
01:02:34.898 --> 01:02:38.501
[SPEAKER_00]: Like the death writers are done.
01:02:38.521 --> 01:02:44.305
[SPEAKER_00]: And then the Calis family comes in and lets themselves in the cage and kills them.
01:02:44.946 --> 01:02:47.147
[SPEAKER_00]: You get two different things.
01:02:47.327 --> 01:02:50.550
[SPEAKER_00]: You get the death writers off the stage a little bit.
01:02:50.610 --> 01:02:53.172
[SPEAKER_00]: But yes, they have this entire angle.
01:02:53.932 --> 01:02:57.475
[SPEAKER_00]: and it would put everything where it needed to be.
01:02:57.495 --> 01:03:08.544
[SPEAKER_01]: Not only that, but if you recall, and it was almost like they set it up because Calus during when he was on commentary, I think it was during the Kyle Fletcher match.
01:03:09.345 --> 01:03:12.308
[SPEAKER_01]: He was talking about how we've taken out this guy.
01:03:12.349 --> 01:03:13.530
[SPEAKER_01]: We've taken out that guy.
01:03:13.590 --> 01:03:15.893
[SPEAKER_01]: We're removing pieces from the chess board.
01:03:15.913 --> 01:03:17.655
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it was line he used.
01:03:18.175 --> 01:03:23.882
[SPEAKER_01]: That was made perfect sense for the countless family to show up and take out Will Osprey.
01:03:24.928 --> 01:03:28.874
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because the death of writers heat is already low after.
01:03:28.894 --> 01:03:30.797
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and you've always been mad.
01:03:31.018 --> 01:03:37.548
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and you could already also, you could do the Darby mocks match off of this cage match because they throw off the cage, right?
01:03:37.948 --> 01:03:40.292
[SPEAKER_01]: Didn't that kid throw them off the cages and like it's
01:03:40.492 --> 01:03:49.022
[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, he and Gabe kid both jumped off the cage or yes, or no, it was Darby basically sacrificing himself to get Gabe kid through that table.
01:03:49.062 --> 01:03:49.443
[SPEAKER_01]: Gotcha.
01:03:49.523 --> 01:03:49.743
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
01:03:49.763 --> 01:03:59.775
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so they went through together, but yeah, like I just thought like hindsight's twenty twenty, but if the callous family had been the one, then this would make a lot more sense.
01:03:59.835 --> 01:04:00.656
[SPEAKER_01]: What happened next?
01:04:01.682 --> 01:04:03.623
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so yeah, so I'll come back to you.
01:04:03.643 --> 01:04:04.023
[SPEAKER_01]: It was good.
01:04:04.083 --> 01:04:06.824
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyways, because I mean, Hangman's great in Doncouse's great.
01:04:06.924 --> 01:04:11.446
[SPEAKER_01]: So they made it work, but I thought would have had a little bit more motion behind it if we would.
01:04:11.486 --> 01:04:16.628
[SPEAKER_00]: Here comes Horus Hogan and Stevie Ray and yeah, well, I'll come to Doncouse first.
01:04:16.648 --> 01:04:18.469
[SPEAKER_01]: He says, I have something important to say to the champ.
01:04:19.129 --> 01:04:23.571
[SPEAKER_01]: Hangman, you and I have a long history, and I'm thinking like, really?
01:04:24.891 --> 01:04:27.052
[SPEAKER_01]: You won your first world title from me.
01:04:28.016 --> 01:04:32.277
[SPEAKER_01]: The only reason you took it for me is because I had a weakling defending against you.
01:04:32.337 --> 01:04:35.318
[SPEAKER_01]: And of course, that was Kenny Omega for those of you that weren't watching at the time.
01:04:36.199 --> 01:04:40.700
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm here to tell you, man, to man, I want that title back in the Don Carlos family.
01:04:41.080 --> 01:04:43.761
[SPEAKER_01]: And hang man, you don't get to decide who you're going to wrestle.
01:04:44.201 --> 01:04:46.262
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a whole locker room who wants that title.
01:04:46.322 --> 01:04:49.183
[SPEAKER_01]: And I know, because I have half of them under contract.
01:04:49.643 --> 01:04:52.964
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's not a question of if the Don Carlos family gets your belt.
01:04:53.124 --> 01:04:55.625
[SPEAKER_01]: It's which one of my members is going to take it from you.
01:04:56.782 --> 01:05:03.748
[SPEAKER_01]: And then I wrote down most of them come out and then I quickly realized that exactly what you said, it was the beat team.
01:05:03.828 --> 01:05:05.610
[SPEAKER_01]: It was not even Wardlow.
01:05:06.010 --> 01:05:11.114
[SPEAKER_01]: It was like rock archer, rocky, Josh Alexander and head to Sarah.
01:05:14.237 --> 01:05:16.938
[SPEAKER_01]: That's a Sarah who's yeah, he's kind of the middle.
01:05:17.439 --> 01:05:20.520
[SPEAKER_00]: He's like he's like the like a trend had come out.
01:05:20.560 --> 01:05:24.062
[SPEAKER_00]: This would have been pierbied to Mark Davis.
01:05:25.003 --> 01:05:26.463
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, okay, so Mark is out.
01:05:27.324 --> 01:05:29.025
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what's going on.
01:05:29.145 --> 01:05:30.405
[SPEAKER_01]: You might be trying to have to.
01:05:30.465 --> 01:05:31.346
[SPEAKER_01]: I think he's a bad friend.
01:05:31.906 --> 01:05:33.047
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that's too bad for Trent.
01:05:33.527 --> 01:05:36.148
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, so and even Wardlow was not there.
01:05:36.588 --> 01:05:40.270
[SPEAKER_01]: So I guess Wardlow is above head to Sarah when the Don Cal's family pecking order.
01:05:42.235 --> 01:05:46.817
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, there's no to catch the no word low, no, no, no, no trend.
01:05:47.997 --> 01:05:49.658
[SPEAKER_01]: And so yeah, so they're all out there.
01:05:49.998 --> 01:05:55.640
[SPEAKER_01]: And they they swarm hangman and hangman takes the fight to the heels because he's a great baby face.
01:05:56.361 --> 01:05:58.261
[SPEAKER_01]: And eventually they got the better of him.
01:05:58.322 --> 01:06:00.943
[SPEAKER_01]: So night in Bailey, jet speed, come out to make the save.
01:06:01.623 --> 01:06:03.484
[SPEAKER_01]: Calus gave Rocky a steel baton.
01:06:03.524 --> 01:06:04.924
[SPEAKER_01]: He took out Mike Bailey's knee.
01:06:05.044 --> 01:06:07.445
[SPEAKER_01]: Now it's five on three if you count Ted Calus.
01:06:08.085 --> 01:06:10.606
[SPEAKER_01]: And Kenny Omega's music hits and he he walks out.
01:06:10.686 --> 01:06:10.847
[SPEAKER_01]: No.
01:06:11.287 --> 01:06:11.387
[UNKNOWN]: No.
01:06:12.247 --> 01:06:13.329
[SPEAKER_00]: It's even worse.
01:06:13.469 --> 01:06:18.156
[SPEAKER_00]: Rocky hits Mike Bailey in the stomach with the ton.
01:06:18.637 --> 01:06:25.046
[SPEAKER_00]: And then later Mike Bailey's running full speed doing flippy news.
01:06:25.186 --> 01:06:26.468
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it's Mike Bailey.
01:06:27.349 --> 01:06:31.512
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so yeah, Kenny walked out and he's wearing a jeans and no shirt.
01:06:32.052 --> 01:06:33.453
[SPEAKER_01]: He right, went into the ring.
01:06:33.513 --> 01:06:35.395
[SPEAKER_01]: Took out the head to Sarah with a V trigger.
01:06:35.415 --> 01:06:37.036
[SPEAKER_01]: He had a snap soup, Lex and a rocky.
01:06:37.076 --> 01:06:39.577
[SPEAKER_01]: Another one on Josh Alexander got the baton.
01:06:40.118 --> 01:06:41.358
[SPEAKER_01]: Archer went for a choke slam.
01:06:41.378 --> 01:06:42.679
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll make a hit him with the baton.
01:06:43.260 --> 01:06:48.463
[SPEAKER_01]: And then it's like four on one baby faces in there against Archer and they eventually get him out of the ring.
01:06:48.943 --> 01:06:52.786
[SPEAKER_01]: Hangman or they, no, the jet speed took, did the dives.
01:06:52.806 --> 01:06:55.528
[SPEAKER_01]: That's where you're talking about when they did the running dives and Bailey was supposed to be hurt.
01:06:56.288 --> 01:07:01.789
[SPEAKER_01]: And then Hangman and Nomega hit a combo buckshot V trigger, which was their move when they were taking champions.
01:07:02.509 --> 01:07:05.090
[SPEAKER_01]: And they got rid of Archer and then they shook hands and hugged.
01:07:05.590 --> 01:07:09.551
[SPEAKER_01]: So by the time this was all over, I'm wondering, okay, who's next?
01:07:10.591 --> 01:07:14.052
[SPEAKER_01]: And my first thought was, okay, it's gonna be one of the cows family.
01:07:15.072 --> 01:07:16.092
[SPEAKER_01]: But then it dawned on me.
01:07:16.552 --> 01:07:24.954
[SPEAKER_01]: I think what they're gonna do is they're gonna have a match where it's gonna be one of the cows family against Omega in an eliminator match.
01:07:26.322 --> 01:07:27.482
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think Omega is going to win.
01:07:28.403 --> 01:07:31.684
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's actually going to be Omega and Hangman at all.
01:07:32.264 --> 01:07:32.984
[SPEAKER_01]: That's my prediction.
01:07:33.465 --> 01:07:34.325
[SPEAKER_01]: Because they're in Canada.
01:07:34.705 --> 01:07:37.546
[SPEAKER_01]: So Omega challenging for the title would be big.
01:07:38.627 --> 01:07:49.691
[SPEAKER_01]: And then maybe the Chaos family ends up doing something and ends up like, I don't know if they cost to make it a match, but they screw up the match in some way and Omega and Hangman are still friends after the match.
01:07:50.251 --> 01:07:51.271
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what I think is going to happen.
01:07:51.291 --> 01:07:55.713
[SPEAKER_01]: And then he can go through the Chaos family for the next, you know, till like revolution.
01:07:57.023 --> 01:07:58.143
[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't mind the statement.
01:07:58.163 --> 01:07:59.284
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's put that way.
01:07:59.904 --> 01:08:01.704
[SPEAKER_00]: But I did have a lingering question.
01:08:02.144 --> 01:08:10.266
[SPEAKER_00]: That was, it's one of those questions that's stuck in the back of my mind as I'm watching the rest of the show and I can't concentrate on because this question's in the back of my mind.
01:08:12.346 --> 01:08:24.389
[SPEAKER_00]: Was it a mistake to have Omega save hangman versus having, and I'm not saying we're doing an apples to apples segment here.
01:08:26.869 --> 01:08:29.390
[SPEAKER_00]: But shouldn't hangman have saved a mega from something.
01:08:30.511 --> 01:08:33.472
[SPEAKER_00]: First you need to bit no to be the bigger star.
01:08:34.893 --> 01:08:35.434
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I see.
01:08:35.514 --> 01:08:35.774
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
01:08:36.094 --> 01:08:36.794
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
01:08:36.994 --> 01:08:37.755
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I see what you mean.
01:08:37.775 --> 01:08:38.055
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah.
01:08:38.075 --> 01:08:44.398
[SPEAKER_00]: Because it seems to me that all the shine went to Omega in this segment as opposed to the shine going on hangman.
01:08:45.719 --> 01:08:47.240
[SPEAKER_00]: And I just thought that there was a
01:08:49.538 --> 01:09:02.413
[SPEAKER_00]: I know the thought the thought is okay Omega gives Hangman the rub and everybody likes it, you know, whatever, but if you really want him to break out into that his own man type of thing, you have Hangman save Omega.
01:09:03.632 --> 01:09:24.788
[SPEAKER_00]: in some ways that that was the that was the other half of the equation for making hangman a bigger star but if if we're going to do that on this show a little bit so it was just kind of like I'm watching this going to add this backwards because it seems to me that they're pushing omega is a bigger deal over their champion which I didn't like
01:09:25.088 --> 01:09:25.848
[SPEAKER_01]: That's a say.
01:09:26.188 --> 01:09:26.469
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
01:09:26.549 --> 01:09:27.049
[SPEAKER_01]: I can see that.
01:09:27.669 --> 01:09:28.850
[SPEAKER_01]: Jason has a suggestion here.
01:09:28.890 --> 01:09:45.297
[SPEAKER_01]: And I assume he's talking like if they go with my idea of Omega and Hangman said they can run the Savage Warrior angle for Summer's time ninety two and have Callis be, you know, basically promising to be in one of their corners when in fact neither one of them is actually with Callis, but Callis is trying to put doubt in both their heads.
01:09:46.197 --> 01:09:47.298
[SPEAKER_01]: It could be interesting.
01:09:48.899 --> 01:09:51.560
[SPEAKER_00]: I think of our peer squash with Josh Alexander do.
01:09:52.772 --> 01:09:54.633
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, yeah, you could do that.
01:09:55.053 --> 01:10:00.096
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you could, or you know, the other thing I was thinking was maybe just a murder death, not even a match.
01:10:00.116 --> 01:10:04.798
[SPEAKER_00]: And I love Josh Alexander, but just hit a book shot, Larry at one, two, three.
01:10:06.798 --> 01:10:15.087
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, maybe you call this or this, maybe you do some sort of a gauntlet match on on one of these dynamites, uh, where Omega.
01:10:15.148 --> 01:10:15.328
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
01:10:15.348 --> 01:10:17.851
[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to do it next week, probably.
01:10:17.871 --> 01:10:19.092
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
01:10:19.192 --> 01:10:25.960
[SPEAKER_01]: And then that would do exactly what you were just saying is presenting him as the bigger star correct.
01:10:27.020 --> 01:10:29.042
[SPEAKER_01]: Lady B thinks hangman and Wardle it all.
01:10:29.102 --> 01:10:30.524
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you could definitely do that.
01:10:30.924 --> 01:10:34.188
[SPEAKER_01]: I honestly when he when he returned that was my immediate thought.
01:10:34.408 --> 01:10:37.691
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought, okay, he's challenging him and next, but I wasn't.
01:10:38.572 --> 01:10:42.796
[SPEAKER_00]: You give him, you give him one win, you know, gets like my, give Mike Bailey first.
01:10:43.017 --> 01:10:45.159
[SPEAKER_00]: Let him kill Mike Bailey who Wardle.
01:10:45.790 --> 01:10:46.070
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
01:10:46.530 --> 01:10:46.610
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
01:10:46.630 --> 01:10:46.710
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
01:10:46.730 --> 01:10:46.871
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
01:10:46.891 --> 01:10:47.011
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
01:10:47.351 --> 01:10:50.612
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, and, and I suggest, it's just on the show with Gary.
01:10:50.832 --> 01:10:55.495
[SPEAKER_01]: My idea, excuse talking about what marquee matches you put on all out to compete with WWE.
01:10:55.955 --> 01:10:59.196
[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, bring back Goldberg and do Goldberg board low.
01:11:00.817 --> 01:11:05.279
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, that would steal some headlines from WWE if you did that.
01:11:06.100 --> 01:11:08.441
[SPEAKER_01]: And then allowed to do a retirement speech.
01:11:09.561 --> 01:11:09.801
[SPEAKER_01]: Sure.
01:11:09.962 --> 01:11:12.403
[SPEAKER_01]: When a, it's like, after you get squashed by words.
01:11:13.625 --> 01:11:14.405
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, yeah.
01:11:14.785 --> 01:11:15.586
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah.
01:11:16.026 --> 01:11:19.547
[SPEAKER_01]: So then, uh, oh, I didn't even, you know what?
01:11:20.627 --> 01:11:21.287
[SPEAKER_01]: What did you notice?
01:11:22.307 --> 01:11:23.508
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, oh, no, no, I got it.
01:11:23.588 --> 01:11:23.908
[SPEAKER_01]: I got it.
01:11:24.228 --> 01:11:24.488
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
01:11:24.688 --> 01:11:26.568
[SPEAKER_01]: No, I just missed Hangman's promoces.
01:11:26.588 --> 01:11:27.069
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll be honest.
01:11:27.089 --> 01:11:27.889
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know dumbass.
01:11:27.929 --> 01:11:28.929
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll see how this is going to go.
01:11:28.989 --> 01:11:31.550
[SPEAKER_01]: That was, that was a part of this when I was recapping what happened.
01:11:32.430 --> 01:11:34.851
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so yeah, that was, uh, that was that.
01:11:34.871 --> 01:11:35.411
[SPEAKER_01]: It was pretty good.
01:11:35.571 --> 01:11:35.811
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought.
01:11:36.716 --> 01:11:44.285
[SPEAKER_01]: Then we got a confusing promo that I didn't even really understand what was going on because it was it was a mean and Tony promo.
01:11:45.286 --> 01:11:48.029
[SPEAKER_01]: And she says I'm a woman of search to my mother.
01:11:48.049 --> 01:11:49.631
[SPEAKER_01]: I forbidden door.
01:11:49.671 --> 01:11:51.813
[SPEAKER_01]: I found myself unbeatable.
01:11:52.534 --> 01:11:55.176
[SPEAKER_01]: And she says, my girlfriend is coming for the leftovers.
01:11:55.817 --> 01:11:57.338
[SPEAKER_01]: And that was me that she's talking about.
01:11:57.398 --> 01:12:06.086
[SPEAKER_01]: And she said, this is the love bum, me and a share of Kawa and she's going to leave you just like I did that mean a slapter Tony says, my God, I'm back.
01:12:06.566 --> 01:12:06.786
[SPEAKER_01]: But it
01:12:07.587 --> 01:12:09.888
[SPEAKER_01]: Throughout this, Athena's voice is talking.
01:12:09.948 --> 01:12:11.969
[SPEAKER_01]: And so I guess Athena's watching this promo.
01:12:12.650 --> 01:12:14.531
[SPEAKER_01]: And she's commenting on it.
01:12:14.651 --> 01:12:17.933
[SPEAKER_01]: So she says, I'm going to become our way to women's champion.
01:12:17.973 --> 01:12:22.035
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm going to, or no, mean us that I'm going to, I'm going to become ring of honor women's champion.
01:12:22.055 --> 01:12:23.716
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm going to dance up this arena.
01:12:24.176 --> 01:12:30.239
[SPEAKER_01]: And if Athena says you want to dance up the arena, well, how about I throw you off the arena so hard, it'll make the blue mini quiver.
01:12:30.259 --> 01:12:31.220
[SPEAKER_01]: And then
01:12:32.200 --> 01:12:40.550
[SPEAKER_01]: Tony said something about the Samman and his penis and then mean us as you don't want Mina and then they both put up their pants for FU.
01:12:41.571 --> 01:12:43.413
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what the dancing on top of the arena?
01:12:43.514 --> 01:12:44.254
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah, come on.
01:12:44.274 --> 01:12:44.515
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
01:12:47.837 --> 01:12:51.761
[SPEAKER_01]: Tony's going to bring up come on to want to lay out about ten times in the next three weeks.
01:12:54.263 --> 01:12:57.706
[SPEAKER_00]: I think maybe I'll even bring come on to make coming for a one shot.
01:12:57.766 --> 01:13:04.892
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I was going to say yeah, she around like I don't probably bring in the she's around nine the business, but I'll get Francine if they can.
01:13:08.415 --> 01:13:19.507
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so well, so Matt says, normally it's pretty clear where they're going for pay for you main events, zero idea what the all-out main event will be, Ocada, Adam Page, Kesha, Adam Page, maybe it will really be Omega.
01:13:19.927 --> 01:13:30.078
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's going to be Omega, but the main event, I mean, it might actually be Darby and Mox, which again, would go to what Jeff is talking about with Hayman.
01:13:30.862 --> 01:13:41.686
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, like if if mox again is the main event over hang man like what is that telling you about hang that I think they made a van with the copin Christian population.
01:13:42.047 --> 01:13:45.148
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, what would like retiree fight.
01:13:47.109 --> 01:13:49.410
[SPEAKER_00]: Something like that it becomes a walking brawl.
01:13:50.470 --> 01:13:50.730
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
01:13:51.050 --> 01:13:52.831
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, losers can never team again.
01:13:54.332 --> 01:13:54.632
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe.
01:13:54.792 --> 01:13:54.972
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
01:13:55.777 --> 01:13:56.337
[SPEAKER_01]: You could do that.
01:13:57.238 --> 01:13:58.079
[SPEAKER_01]: That would be interesting.
01:13:59.279 --> 01:14:02.421
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so you're going to want that moment, where do they win?
01:14:02.562 --> 01:14:11.928
[SPEAKER_01]: It could be the main event though, because again, that yeah, I think in, I think if you asked Tony, he would think that they're the biggest stars on this particular show.
01:14:12.448 --> 01:14:16.831
[SPEAKER_01]: Chris said, and the fact that they're teaming up again is the biggest thing on this show.
01:14:17.752 --> 01:14:21.194
[SPEAKER_01]: So whether or not that's true, I think that that's what Tony would think.
01:14:21.554 --> 01:14:22.415
[SPEAKER_01]: And it might be true.
01:14:22.615 --> 01:14:23.215
[SPEAKER_01]: Don't get me wrong.
01:14:23.235 --> 01:14:23.916
[SPEAKER_01]: I think.
01:14:26.101 --> 01:14:29.342
[SPEAKER_01]: We were having this discussion in the discord and it was based on a conversation.
01:14:29.362 --> 01:14:40.727
[SPEAKER_01]: I think Garrett and Dave were having on Wrestling Observer last week and they were saying like who the most famous person in a in a W is and they were saying it was was Jericho right now until he leaves.
01:14:41.248 --> 01:14:54.753
[SPEAKER_01]: But then it was like and then I think he said, well, Garrett and then it's moxley is next and I'm like, no way edges or Copeland is way bigger name than anybody else currently in a W. I think in terms of mainstream popularity.
01:14:57.535 --> 01:14:58.777
[SPEAKER_01]: I agree with this, Matt.
01:14:59.037 --> 01:15:03.562
[SPEAKER_01]: It might turn a large percentage of the W audience office put Copeland Christian as the last match.
01:15:04.123 --> 01:15:09.268
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think Tony cares because Christians is a favorite wrestler, right, and Copeland is a big star.
01:15:09.989 --> 01:15:14.754
[SPEAKER_01]: So I mean, but I agree that you might, you might piss some people off.
01:15:14.814 --> 01:15:16.276
[SPEAKER_01]: So it'll be interesting to see what they do.
01:15:18.185 --> 01:15:19.926
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, and yeah, I want to know what that.
01:15:20.366 --> 01:15:24.508
[SPEAKER_01]: I think I might have to go back and watch that promo again to find out what she was talking about was salmon and it is penis.
01:15:25.188 --> 01:15:25.809
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, okay.
01:15:26.169 --> 01:15:29.730
[SPEAKER_01]: So we got to come back to the penis area there, Paul.
01:15:30.191 --> 01:15:30.451
[SPEAKER_01]: I am.
01:15:30.611 --> 01:15:31.571
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
01:15:31.631 --> 01:15:34.913
[SPEAKER_01]: Ricochet and the gates of agony against the ops in a trio's title match.
01:15:35.273 --> 01:15:35.953
[SPEAKER_01]: It's so weird.
01:15:36.033 --> 01:15:44.237
[SPEAKER_01]: The every time the the ops wrestle, they announced it last minute and sometimes for the title and sometimes not, but it doesn't matter because they always win.
01:15:45.839 --> 01:15:47.982
[SPEAKER_01]: And so they went through a break.
01:15:49.264 --> 01:15:58.377
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what, something happened with my notes here because I'm like, I was, you know, I was like type as I'm writing and I looked down and like all of a sudden I was on the wrong page.
01:15:58.437 --> 01:15:58.737
[SPEAKER_01]: So it was.
01:16:00.104 --> 01:16:02.125
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just going to try to remember what happened here.
01:16:02.165 --> 01:16:04.607
[SPEAKER_01]: Like Shabbada was in the ring for almost a whole match.
01:16:05.127 --> 01:16:05.608
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
01:16:05.648 --> 01:16:10.511
[SPEAKER_01]: He's selling and he did a chop fest with Bishop Khan and his chest was all red.
01:16:11.151 --> 01:16:13.253
[SPEAKER_01]: They ended up going through a break when they came back.
01:16:13.673 --> 01:16:14.714
[SPEAKER_01]: Shabbada was still in there.
01:16:17.286 --> 01:16:20.828
[SPEAKER_01]: They mentioned here that collision was on Saturday, but they didn't announce any matches.
01:16:21.329 --> 01:16:22.629
[SPEAKER_01]: Joe finally made the hot tag.
01:16:22.669 --> 01:16:24.110
[SPEAKER_01]: He ran wild on Ricochet.
01:16:24.430 --> 01:16:25.931
[SPEAKER_01]: Got a near fall off a centon.
01:16:26.251 --> 01:16:27.312
[SPEAKER_01]: The only made the save.
01:16:28.073 --> 01:16:29.574
[SPEAKER_01]: Gates of agony took Joe out.
01:16:29.814 --> 01:16:30.694
[SPEAKER_01]: Hobbs ran in.
01:16:30.734 --> 01:16:31.675
[SPEAKER_01]: Did all his stuff.
01:16:31.695 --> 01:16:33.176
[SPEAKER_01]: Then everyone did all their spots.
01:16:33.776 --> 01:16:47.504
[SPEAKER_01]: Ricochet was last in hit a springboard on Joe on a running SSP, Shabbato made the save and then eventually Ricochet went to the top rope and he was going to hit something and MVP knocked him off the top rope with the cane.
01:16:47.524 --> 01:16:54.829
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, he came in out of nowhere and then Joe grabbed Ricochet, choked him out and that was that thing was him, he choked up.
01:16:55.762 --> 01:16:56.582
[SPEAKER_01]: might have been Leonardo.
01:16:56.602 --> 01:16:58.683
[SPEAKER_01]: I wrote down the owner, but I feel like it was ricochet.
01:16:59.203 --> 01:17:00.923
[SPEAKER_01]: But anyways, yeah, that was that.
01:17:01.343 --> 01:17:08.805
[SPEAKER_01]: And then after the match, the camera was following the ops to the back and get to agony, we're in the ring with ricochet.
01:17:09.165 --> 01:17:13.126
[SPEAKER_01]: And this is what I was talking about earlier, because they both were leaving and exiting out the same doors.
01:17:13.146 --> 01:17:13.966
[SPEAKER_01]: They have to do this.
01:17:14.626 --> 01:17:17.767
[SPEAKER_01]: And then while they're in the ring, the hurt syndicates music hit.
01:17:18.327 --> 01:17:22.188
[SPEAKER_01]: And then fans start chanting, we hurt people, and then they brawls all the way to the back.
01:17:23.888 --> 01:17:26.149
[SPEAKER_01]: I guess hurts and it gets me the baby faces in this feed.
01:17:26.189 --> 01:17:28.991
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, so yeah, that was that.
01:17:29.831 --> 01:17:31.572
[SPEAKER_01]: It was quick painless.
01:17:31.872 --> 01:17:32.332
[SPEAKER_01]: This is good.
01:17:33.313 --> 01:17:39.836
[SPEAKER_00]: Where you surprised at MVP coming out slash hurts and to get coming out.
01:17:40.036 --> 01:17:43.177
[SPEAKER_01]: So I was more I thought to be then hurts and to get.
01:17:43.737 --> 01:17:46.559
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, but I thought for sure.
01:17:46.579 --> 01:17:48.900
[SPEAKER_00]: That match.
01:17:50.516 --> 01:17:51.236
[SPEAKER_00]: gimmicks done.
01:17:51.657 --> 01:17:52.217
[SPEAKER_00]: They're gone.
01:17:52.617 --> 01:17:55.398
[SPEAKER_00]: They're sitting on the sidelines or whatever until November.
01:17:55.458 --> 01:17:57.879
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, they did the angle is set set up.
01:17:58.540 --> 01:18:06.363
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but still, but that's how they wrote it off in the wrote them off in the match, too, was that they came back and they got their revenge, which
01:18:07.372 --> 01:18:10.533
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, that's kind of the end of it, but now they're going to get another minute.
01:18:10.613 --> 01:18:19.056
[SPEAKER_01]: I think I might have said last week on here, it might have been you, one of us, maybe both of us said that maybe we thought that they only had a year.
01:18:19.856 --> 01:18:25.798
[SPEAKER_01]: And then like it's come out, they might have more time than we thought, Shelton for sure signed a three year contract.
01:18:25.838 --> 01:18:26.418
[SPEAKER_01]: That I know.
01:18:27.099 --> 01:18:29.679
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know about MVP and or Bobby.
01:18:31.200 --> 01:18:33.181
[SPEAKER_01]: But I know Shelton signed a three year contract.
01:18:33.841 --> 01:18:37.122
[SPEAKER_00]: I was still waiting for Lashley to come out to be Hangman's first opponent.
01:18:38.556 --> 01:18:50.125
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and then clearly that's not gonna happen like clearly where we're getting we're doing a gates of agony hurts into get mad right and and but that also tracks with what Tony thinks to yeah Tony's not
01:18:52.820 --> 01:18:55.781
[SPEAKER_00]: There's that good mess around with this AEW versus WWE stuff.
01:18:55.821 --> 01:18:58.021
[SPEAKER_00]: He wants his work rate matches and is snowful.
01:18:58.481 --> 01:18:58.661
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
01:18:58.701 --> 01:18:59.041
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
01:18:59.701 --> 01:19:00.462
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what I think.
01:19:00.502 --> 01:19:03.802
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, and you know, and I know that people are saying, oh, no, you got to fight.
01:19:03.842 --> 01:19:04.962
[SPEAKER_01]: You got to put on your big match.
01:19:05.022 --> 01:19:08.463
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think Tony thinks, no, you know what, I'm doing good stuff right now.
01:19:08.543 --> 01:19:10.964
[SPEAKER_01]: And we're just going to keep going the way we're going.
01:19:11.444 --> 01:19:13.304
[SPEAKER_01]: So the wrestling people like it.
01:19:13.904 --> 01:19:15.725
[SPEAKER_01]: The wrestling people like it, except when they don't.
01:19:17.205 --> 01:19:18.125
[SPEAKER_01]: Last week, they didn't.
01:19:18.685 --> 01:19:21.386
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what, you've convinced me it's going to be Omega.
01:19:22.126 --> 01:19:22.326
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
01:19:23.354 --> 01:19:23.574
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
01:19:24.115 --> 01:19:24.897
[SPEAKER_01]: Wow, that'd be good.
01:19:25.338 --> 01:19:27.642
[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's a dream match in a way.
01:19:28.323 --> 01:19:31.308
[SPEAKER_00]: September twenty if that's any end.
01:19:31.408 --> 01:19:31.729
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
01:19:33.292 --> 01:19:34.253
[SPEAKER_01]: Three weeks, three weeks.
01:19:35.235 --> 01:19:36.758
[SPEAKER_01]: We got all these Philly shows to build it up.
01:19:37.820 --> 01:19:46.168
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, okay, in the main event was uh, Claudio and Darby and a false count anywhere match and uh, they sure on hold on Claudio's and another main event.
01:19:46.288 --> 01:19:52.094
[SPEAKER_01]: He is, but it's also Darby Allen's return to dynamite and he's a big star.
01:19:52.114 --> 01:19:54.877
[SPEAKER_00]: No, I got that, but I halfway through the match I go.
01:19:56.807 --> 01:20:03.089
[SPEAKER_00]: Have I seen Darby and Claudio as a main event in the last three weeks because of four weeks or whatever because it feels like it.
01:20:03.209 --> 01:20:11.712
[SPEAKER_01]: But it's no, because you haven't seen Darby and I know my didn't like six months or longer since he got thrown down to flat his stairs.
01:20:12.512 --> 01:20:14.113
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and then went climb Mount Everest.
01:20:14.753 --> 01:20:19.995
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so yeah, the, um, so they, it's funny because they show Claudio, he started making his entrance.
01:20:20.055 --> 01:20:24.976
[SPEAKER_01]: So of course, you know, me, I hit the fast forward button and that was it.
01:20:24.996 --> 01:20:25.557
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
01:20:25.957 --> 01:20:26.917
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, this was an creative.
01:20:26.977 --> 01:20:28.198
[SPEAKER_00]: I like, I liked this long.
01:20:28.218 --> 01:20:34.860
[SPEAKER_01]: So I had to back up and yeah, Darby flew in out of nowhere off the top of something and that was that the match was on.
01:20:35.620 --> 01:20:38.661
[SPEAKER_01]: And so the beginning they're fighting backstage.
01:20:38.981 --> 01:20:44.703
[SPEAKER_01]: And this was shot badly because you saw a bunch of people in the background just staring at their phones.
01:20:45.543 --> 01:20:48.684
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, you know, they're just kind of sitting around and not doing anything.
01:20:48.704 --> 01:20:52.045
[SPEAKER_01]: And meanwhile, like, they should have been like, you should have had extras back there.
01:20:52.145 --> 01:20:53.825
[SPEAKER_01]: Just like, yeah, yeah, go.
01:20:53.845 --> 01:20:54.725
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, like that.
01:20:54.805 --> 01:20:58.726
[SPEAKER_01]: And no, instead it was just like, I mean, it was probably more realistic.
01:20:58.987 --> 01:21:02.388
[SPEAKER_01]: But it did make for the best atmosphere.
01:21:02.448 --> 01:21:03.428
[SPEAKER_01]: But eventually they went
01:21:04.248 --> 01:21:09.751
[SPEAKER_01]: Claudio set up a big screen TV as like a bridge and slam Darby onto it.
01:21:10.132 --> 01:21:12.453
[SPEAKER_01]: Literally dragged him by his feet into the building.
01:21:13.313 --> 01:21:17.556
[SPEAKER_01]: Did a giant swing not to be into a barricade tossed it back in the ring.
01:21:17.956 --> 01:21:20.978
[SPEAKER_01]: And then Darby just magically got up hit a tote outside the ring.
01:21:20.998 --> 01:21:21.919
[SPEAKER_01]: Claudio took over.
01:21:22.839 --> 01:21:23.980
[SPEAKER_01]: I climbed up a pillar.
01:21:24.764 --> 01:21:27.247
[SPEAKER_01]: did a coffin drop from like twenty feet for a near fall.
01:21:27.287 --> 01:21:28.348
[SPEAKER_01]: We got a holy shit chance.
01:21:29.069 --> 01:21:32.232
[SPEAKER_01]: I think at this point we're like three minutes into the batch.
01:21:32.512 --> 01:21:37.677
[SPEAKER_01]: Replace shows that when he when he fell off this whatever this was he just bounced off a Claudio.
01:21:38.819 --> 01:21:41.201
[SPEAKER_01]: And he used right back up rolled him back in the ring.
01:21:41.281 --> 01:21:43.644
[SPEAKER_01]: Darby hit our Claudio hit the flying uppercut for two.
01:21:44.445 --> 01:21:49.012
[SPEAKER_01]: And then Claudio said like he'd worn the announcers to get out of the way.
01:21:49.453 --> 01:21:52.177
[SPEAKER_01]: So they all bailed and we got no sound for a bit.
01:21:52.818 --> 01:21:54.701
[SPEAKER_01]: And then Claudio picked up Darby.
01:21:55.843 --> 01:21:58.266
[SPEAKER_01]: Over his head, through him.
01:21:59.163 --> 01:22:04.705
[SPEAKER_01]: into the announced table, Darby bounces off the announced table onto the floor.
01:22:05.105 --> 01:22:06.505
[SPEAKER_01]: He's in the dead man's pose.
01:22:06.525 --> 01:22:10.046
[SPEAKER_01]: They showed like four replays of it from different angles.
01:22:10.206 --> 01:22:11.527
[SPEAKER_01]: Every one of them looks sick.
01:22:12.047 --> 01:22:14.347
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, yeah, this was just crazy.
01:22:14.508 --> 01:22:15.388
[SPEAKER_01]: Then they go to break.
01:22:16.268 --> 01:22:16.929
[SPEAKER_01]: They come back.
01:22:17.529 --> 01:22:18.210
[SPEAKER_01]: Darby's fine.
01:22:18.850 --> 01:22:20.692
[SPEAKER_01]: He's like probably outside the ring.
01:22:20.892 --> 01:22:23.334
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, wow, this guy is amazing.
01:22:24.014 --> 01:22:27.757
[SPEAKER_01]: So Claudio set up some tables in the corner, beats on Darby with a chair.
01:22:27.937 --> 01:22:30.900
[SPEAKER_01]: Darby will grab them in grabbing with a choke.
01:22:31.220 --> 01:22:32.281
[SPEAKER_01]: Claudio reversed the choke.
01:22:32.321 --> 01:22:35.063
[SPEAKER_01]: Try to suplex, but then Darby jumped on his back.
01:22:35.423 --> 01:22:40.147
[SPEAKER_01]: Claudio kept teasing like he was going to back up Darby through the table, but then he just threw him off.
01:22:41.067 --> 01:22:47.930
[SPEAKER_01]: And then he did a run try to run into Darby but Darby got out of the way and he ran right into a table now they're both down.
01:22:48.530 --> 01:22:50.371
[SPEAKER_01]: Darby gets up so it's beaten with a chair.
01:22:51.411 --> 01:22:53.872
[SPEAKER_01]: He's going to pulmonize his neck.
01:22:54.473 --> 01:23:00.155
[SPEAKER_01]: But then Claudia springed up hit the upper cut then he nailed Darby with a chair set up chairs in the middle of the ring.
01:23:00.955 --> 01:23:09.682
[SPEAKER_01]: He had a good match from the top into the chairs by Claudio, Darby kicked out Claudio Toss, Darby into a table and again he bounced off the table.
01:23:09.702 --> 01:23:12.324
[SPEAKER_01]: So then he picked up a lot of power bombs and threw it.
01:23:12.644 --> 01:23:15.606
[SPEAKER_01]: This guy, like I don't know how he's alive.
01:23:16.867 --> 01:23:18.328
[SPEAKER_01]: Then they announced just randomly.
01:23:18.689 --> 01:23:26.595
[SPEAKER_01]: Next week, another all-star eat man tag and it's jet speed, Omega and Hangman against Kyle Fletcher, Josh Alexander in the young books.
01:23:27.562 --> 01:23:28.202
[SPEAKER_01]: of all teams.
01:23:28.462 --> 01:23:36.225
[SPEAKER_01]: So I assume out of that, we're going to get jet speed in the young bucks and probably Kenny and Hangman.
01:23:36.785 --> 01:23:42.007
[SPEAKER_01]: And then they again announced that collision on Saturday is going to be at the regular time, but they didn't announce a single damn thing for it.
01:23:44.288 --> 01:23:46.888
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think I don't even know if that's live or tape.
01:23:46.949 --> 01:23:47.429
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not even sure.
01:23:47.489 --> 01:23:51.230
[SPEAKER_01]: I assume they'd be running tomorrow because of the WWE paper, but I guess not.
01:23:52.571 --> 01:24:07.243
[SPEAKER_01]: Then Darby hit a double stomp off the top, he raked the eye, rolled up Claudio for two, did a drop, toe hold onto an exposed turn buckle, hit a code red for two, then he hit a coffin drop, then he hit another coffin drop, and he got the pin.
01:24:07.944 --> 01:24:18.053
[SPEAKER_01]: And pretty like definitive win by the end there, even though Claudio beat his ass for most of the match, like the last couple minutes, like Darby just wore this guy down and beat him.
01:24:18.213 --> 01:24:19.354
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah.
01:24:20.533 --> 01:24:30.940
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I would have liked to sing a little bit more of a struggle out of Darby before like getting like almost enraged and then breaking Claudio I think I think that's the story they probably should have told by like the match.
01:24:30.960 --> 01:24:31.621
[SPEAKER_00]: It was pretty fun.
01:24:32.241 --> 01:24:34.663
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it was like wild.
01:24:35.603 --> 01:24:37.645
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought this was actually going to be the paperview match.
01:24:37.705 --> 01:24:41.768
[SPEAKER_01]: So I assume we're going to get something even wilder with Darby and Mox at the paperview.
01:24:42.668 --> 01:24:44.289
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not.
01:24:44.389 --> 01:24:46.211
[SPEAKER_00]: Somebody might actually die in that match.
01:24:47.029 --> 01:24:47.969
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's pretty crazy.
01:24:48.270 --> 01:24:50.491
[SPEAKER_01]: That's somebody might be Darby Allen.
01:24:51.071 --> 01:25:01.536
[SPEAKER_01]: So after the match, Gabe Kid shows up in a hoodie and he attacked Darby and then out came Marks and Marina, the fans out of nowhere start chanting for Eddie.
01:25:02.196 --> 01:25:06.558
[SPEAKER_01]: So at this point I was wondering, was there some rumors about Eddie Kingston that I didn't know about?
01:25:07.418 --> 01:25:10.901
[SPEAKER_01]: And I guess not because he didn't show up.
01:25:11.822 --> 01:25:18.668
[SPEAKER_01]: Then Darby escaped Gabe went after Mox through Gabe into him and he took off through the crowd, Gabe chased after him.
01:25:19.029 --> 01:25:22.912
[SPEAKER_01]: Darby ended up going outside and I guess Gabe couldn't get the door open.
01:25:22.952 --> 01:25:24.454
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, but he lost him.
01:25:25.114 --> 01:25:27.476
[SPEAKER_01]: And Mox and Claudia were left in the ring.
01:25:27.516 --> 01:25:28.698
[SPEAKER_01]: Darby's music's playing.
01:25:29.658 --> 01:25:31.359
[SPEAKER_01]: Gabe, they kept cutting back to Gabe.
01:25:31.419 --> 01:25:33.701
[SPEAKER_01]: He was throwing stuff around backstage and he was pissed off.
01:25:34.141 --> 01:25:36.903
[SPEAKER_01]: And Mox actually left the ring and left Claudio there.
01:25:37.603 --> 01:25:43.307
[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't know if like that was Moxie's basically telling Claudio like, you spot up.
01:25:43.887 --> 01:25:44.848
[SPEAKER_01]: And this is my new guy.
01:25:45.528 --> 01:25:46.449
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what I got out of it.
01:25:46.589 --> 01:25:49.571
[SPEAKER_01]: But I don't know if there's maybe I'm reading too much into it.
01:25:49.651 --> 01:25:56.575
[SPEAKER_01]: But he left Claudio like alone in the ring beaten and went and hung out with his new buddy Gabe.
01:25:59.011 --> 01:26:03.294
[SPEAKER_00]: I want Gabe kid to get a look refresh.
01:26:05.596 --> 01:26:06.056
[SPEAKER_00]: Sorry.
01:26:06.256 --> 01:26:07.057
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what he looks like?
01:26:07.537 --> 01:26:09.018
[SPEAKER_00]: He looks like Orny Lorkin.
01:26:09.599 --> 01:26:12.321
[SPEAKER_01]: I was thinking Zack Gibson, but okay.
01:26:12.881 --> 01:26:14.342
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, no, that gives him stall.
01:26:14.362 --> 01:26:17.404
[SPEAKER_01]: It looks, you know, he's beefier than Zack Gibson.
01:26:17.444 --> 01:26:19.066
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Orny Lorkin's probably a better call.
01:26:19.086 --> 01:26:22.988
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but I'm trying to, I can't remember, Orny Lorkin's indie name.
01:26:23.028 --> 01:26:25.430
[SPEAKER_01]: He thinks he's, he looks like Stone Cold, but he doesn't.
01:26:28.672 --> 01:26:30.794
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and he does a fifth music.
01:26:30.854 --> 01:26:32.056
[SPEAKER_00]: That's the name I was thinking of.
01:26:32.076 --> 01:26:33.617
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, same guy.
01:26:33.637 --> 01:26:39.362
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, no, but I couldn't remember his the name that I remembered him as I remember his WWE name.
01:26:39.422 --> 01:26:40.844
[SPEAKER_00]: It was pisses me off to be honest.
01:26:41.184 --> 01:26:48.511
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's is the black trunks, you know, playing kind of a not a bad body, but you know,
01:26:50.212 --> 01:26:51.253
[SPEAKER_00]: It ain't muscular.
01:26:51.293 --> 01:26:52.434
[SPEAKER_00]: It hasn't been a body hair.
01:26:52.474 --> 01:26:53.135
[SPEAKER_00]: He's bald.
01:26:53.155 --> 01:26:53.836
[SPEAKER_00]: He has to go to it.
01:26:53.896 --> 01:26:55.237
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he looks like only lurking.
01:26:55.317 --> 01:27:05.488
[SPEAKER_00]: I just need him to look get some be the hitman be the be the mercenary or whatever come out looking in a mercenary outfit something that
01:27:06.088 --> 01:27:14.153
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe if he shaved the beard and tried to go for like the like the jacen state, I'm look, you know, like a buzz cut, no beard.
01:27:14.774 --> 01:27:17.496
[SPEAKER_01]: And maybe like a silent assassin kind of killer.
01:27:18.316 --> 01:27:19.257
[SPEAKER_00]: Play with it a bit.
01:27:19.597 --> 01:27:20.698
[SPEAKER_00]: See what he can do with it.
01:27:21.198 --> 01:27:23.740
[SPEAKER_00]: Just just change your look, man.
01:27:24.580 --> 01:27:28.443
[SPEAKER_01]: Maria thinks maybe Claudio and you are out and gave and Danny are in.
01:27:28.803 --> 01:27:29.263
[SPEAKER_01]: That could be.
01:27:29.784 --> 01:27:34.227
[SPEAKER_00]: That could be, I mean, Claudio, I think Claudio is a much better baby face than he has a heel.
01:27:36.732 --> 01:27:39.673
[SPEAKER_00]: Because his offense means nothing as a heal.
01:27:40.153 --> 01:27:42.914
[SPEAKER_01]: And the fans pop for his offense.
01:27:43.414 --> 01:27:45.134
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, that would be great.
01:27:45.194 --> 01:27:50.835
[SPEAKER_01]: You know him doing like stuff like that to like, you know, like the like rocky or something.
01:27:50.855 --> 01:27:55.056
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, like he could actually get a run as a baby face like a team champion or something like that.
01:27:55.076 --> 01:27:56.216
[SPEAKER_00]: Put Matthew's question up.
01:27:57.656 --> 01:28:02.217
[SPEAKER_01]: Disports need audio commentary watching so much Japanese wrestling makes me think no.
01:28:02.577 --> 01:28:04.818
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it attracts far more often than it helps.
01:28:09.170 --> 01:28:11.991
[SPEAKER_00]: When you have really good commentary, you don't notice it.
01:28:12.671 --> 01:28:15.032
[SPEAKER_00]: When it's really bad commentary, you do notice it.
01:28:16.012 --> 01:28:17.893
[SPEAKER_00]: I think really good commentary helps.
01:28:18.613 --> 01:28:24.175
[SPEAKER_00]: I think the first few times, I listen to the New Japan with just the Japanese commentary when they get excited.
01:28:24.195 --> 01:28:25.996
[SPEAKER_00]: It helped me.
01:28:27.016 --> 01:28:28.097
[SPEAKER_00]: But I think overall,
01:28:29.681 --> 01:28:34.322
[SPEAKER_00]: Audio commentary needs to be locked in on what's going on as opposed to trying to pop each other.
01:28:34.602 --> 01:28:35.422
[SPEAKER_00]: That's the problem.
01:28:35.822 --> 01:28:39.883
[SPEAKER_00]: There's there's too much of that in all sports, not just professional wrestling.
01:28:40.783 --> 01:28:48.785
[SPEAKER_00]: It's just no, you need to be locked in on the game or whatever you're watching and calling as opposed to what catchphrase can I think of.
01:28:49.885 --> 01:28:53.406
[SPEAKER_00]: If they hit this last second shot, how can I make it memorable or whatever?
01:28:54.170 --> 01:29:07.377
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like they got they've got that call like queued up Jim Nance has his calls queued up and stuff like that so that's bad, but like when you what like when you what has this terrible on this and I I don't even like in Rick aboney all that much either.
01:29:07.417 --> 01:29:10.719
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think he's bringing much to the table on on commentary.
01:29:10.859 --> 01:29:13.341
[SPEAKER_01]: Walker Stewart is awesome.
01:29:14.079 --> 01:29:14.580
[SPEAKER_00]: I like to.
01:29:15.061 --> 01:29:24.135
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and well, and I watch the G one and the thing is with Walker not only is he telling you what's going on the ring is he is also
01:29:25.352 --> 01:29:38.277
[SPEAKER_01]: Like I don't even think he knows where the stories are going a lot of the time, but he's that's usually better because that you get in a real reaction out of what's going on and he's telling you the story as he believes it is and he's telling you situations.
01:29:38.337 --> 01:29:43.339
[SPEAKER_01]: So I think for I think yes, it is it supports need audio commentary.
01:29:43.379 --> 01:29:45.400
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, but it needs good audio commentary.
01:29:45.740 --> 01:29:47.622
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, that audio commentary.
01:29:47.642 --> 01:29:48.823
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you might as well not even have it.
01:29:49.303 --> 01:29:51.004
[SPEAKER_01]: I think for like an use at sports.
01:29:51.045 --> 01:29:52.286
[SPEAKER_01]: I think like for baseball.
01:29:52.806 --> 01:29:58.050
[SPEAKER_01]: I think that the reason you like to have it is because honestly baseball is kind of baseball is a lot of dead time.
01:29:58.431 --> 01:30:03.415
[SPEAKER_00]: It does and the guys that were good can't mean the last real great.
01:30:04.693 --> 01:30:12.416
[SPEAKER_00]: Brought was Yooker and he died last year, but I mean, him and Vin could carry a broadcast by themselves just by telling stories and stuff.
01:30:12.436 --> 01:30:13.256
[SPEAKER_00]: There's too much.
01:30:13.957 --> 01:30:15.457
[SPEAKER_00]: You listen to baseball commentary now.
01:30:15.497 --> 01:30:16.658
[SPEAKER_00]: There's too much blood.
01:30:16.798 --> 01:30:19.119
[SPEAKER_00]: There's garbage that they're talking about.
01:30:19.159 --> 01:30:22.160
[SPEAKER_01]: We have we have actually good commentators here in Toronto.
01:30:22.180 --> 01:30:24.701
[SPEAKER_01]: We have Dan Schillman and Buck Martinists.
01:30:25.001 --> 01:30:26.322
[SPEAKER_00]: Schillman's fantastic.
01:30:26.382 --> 01:30:28.002
[SPEAKER_00]: I like him on he has to be on broadcast.
01:30:28.042 --> 01:30:28.322
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
01:30:28.382 --> 01:30:29.543
[SPEAKER_01]: He has a basketball as well.
01:30:31.144 --> 01:30:34.246
[SPEAKER_01]: Walker Stewart and Chris Charlton are so far ahead of wrestling commentary teams.
01:30:34.266 --> 01:30:35.067
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I agree with that.
01:30:35.928 --> 01:30:40.311
[SPEAKER_01]: Daniel Sin was awesome on the paper view and last week on Dynamite.
01:30:40.671 --> 01:30:43.133
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think him with Excalibur would be a good team.
01:30:44.694 --> 01:30:47.156
[SPEAKER_01]: Him and Savani would actually probably be pretty good too.
01:30:48.757 --> 01:31:18.057
[SPEAKER_00]: I do like the Nigel Tony like doing the old school gorilla Bobby hean and stuff but I don't I in general I don't like the the street play by play with heel announcer twirling the mustache type thing I've never liked that my favorite my favorite wrestling Oddly enough that was early Jim Ross when he came over from UWF and Chavani calling it like a sport in that fashion mine was Jim Ross and Jesse
01:31:19.660 --> 01:31:20.120
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
01:31:20.361 --> 01:31:29.067
[SPEAKER_01]: And and but right behind that would have been actually Vincent Jesse, like because that was like my first like and again, you got to remember like I'm coming from AWS and there's nothing wrong with that.
01:31:29.107 --> 01:31:34.691
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, like Jesse could do it, but Jesse knew when to back off to and Vince knew exactly where the stories were going.
01:31:35.192 --> 01:31:37.013
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, he's not calling the action.
01:31:37.093 --> 01:31:38.934
[SPEAKER_01]: He's he's telling the story.
01:31:39.034 --> 01:31:48.782
[SPEAKER_01]: He's telling the stories correct and the thing is in the difference between wrestling commentary and regular sports commentary is
01:31:50.567 --> 01:31:56.632
[SPEAKER_01]: In regular sports, you actually do probably want the announcers calling what's going on.
01:31:57.212 --> 01:32:00.976
[SPEAKER_01]: In wrestling, you don't necessarily need someone screaming out.
01:32:01.056 --> 01:32:02.217
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that was a hurricane, Ron.
01:32:02.297 --> 01:32:06.020
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that was a tope, but you need them to tell the story of the match.
01:32:06.740 --> 01:32:16.444
[SPEAKER_01]: And too many times, like you said, an Excalibur and a Taz, and even Chavani at times are trying to pop themselves and let, and we even bother with it.
01:32:16.544 --> 01:32:21.486
[SPEAKER_00]: And Excalibur is not giving a narrative flow to the match usually either.
01:32:21.506 --> 01:32:23.988
[SPEAKER_00]: He's not saying, look, he's working on the knee right now.
01:32:24.068 --> 01:32:27.189
[SPEAKER_00]: Once you work down that knee, the rest of the body will go, etc.
01:32:27.269 --> 01:32:36.453
[SPEAKER_00]: Like they used to, when they were trying to sell you in the territory days that this was a real sport, they tell you, you know, this is why he's stopping on the knee, because then it loses the
01:32:36.693 --> 01:32:37.253
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
01:32:37.393 --> 01:32:39.374
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's what Danielson was doing.
01:32:39.894 --> 01:32:44.435
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, he's given you the the the science behind what you're seeing.
01:32:45.015 --> 01:32:45.495
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
01:32:45.655 --> 01:32:51.076
[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, and then when he left for for Jim Ross, it it lost something.
01:32:51.156 --> 01:32:54.116
[SPEAKER_01]: But Jim Ross actually like in small doses is still really good.
01:32:54.837 --> 01:32:55.077
[SPEAKER_00]: No.
01:32:55.717 --> 01:32:55.817
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
01:32:55.837 --> 01:32:59.117
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sorry Jim Jim Ross was just saying things to say things.
01:32:59.777 --> 01:32:59.917
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
01:32:59.957 --> 01:33:00.718
[SPEAKER_00]: He's been worse.
01:33:03.692 --> 01:33:06.455
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I'm not saying he was at his worst.
01:33:06.715 --> 01:33:07.656
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
01:33:09.017 --> 01:33:11.639
[SPEAKER_00]: We've watched shows where he was at his worst.
01:33:12.020 --> 01:33:14.041
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he's a little too much into the.
01:33:16.317 --> 01:33:39.466
[SPEAKER_01]: That would relate the talent of the meal the meal the the meal drinks what it was that he drinks he's mentioned it so it's not just me like yeah, not musk out meals right musk out meals yeah, yeah All right, so that was that I like to show I thought it was really good I like that we have two matches already for for all out it'd be nice if we ask I'll match
01:33:40.646 --> 01:33:44.547
[SPEAKER_01]: And in both cases, like I have no idea where the women's title is going either, like either one.
01:33:45.087 --> 01:33:48.567
[SPEAKER_01]: So I want some clarification on that within the next week or two.
01:33:50.008 --> 01:34:05.750
[SPEAKER_01]: And again, yeah, so I think for Tony, even though I did a show with Garrett where we spent like twenty minutes talking about how Tony can load up the cards if he would WWE, I actually kind of am on the Tony side of just do your show, put on a good show, and see what happens.
01:34:06.250 --> 01:34:09.311
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, like don't even worry about WWE, just do your show.
01:34:10.311 --> 01:34:16.677
[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, maybe, you know, maybe you're going to lose twenty five thousand buys because Brock Lesnar and John Cena are wrestling for free.
01:34:17.178 --> 01:34:19.480
[SPEAKER_01]: But what's twenty five thousand buys?
01:34:19.780 --> 01:34:21.062
[SPEAKER_00]: Like I would agree with that.
01:34:21.102 --> 01:34:25.066
[SPEAKER_00]: But I think he needs to have more faith in his talent to go out there and plug people in the media.
01:34:25.086 --> 01:34:27.908
[SPEAKER_00]: And I know that these are not really like going out there and doing that.
01:34:28.249 --> 01:34:29.970
[SPEAKER_00]: Dude, that's this is part of the act, man.
01:34:30.071 --> 01:34:30.891
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, going over here.
01:34:30.931 --> 01:34:32.493
[SPEAKER_01]: Hopefully it's going to be all over the place.
01:34:32.633 --> 01:34:38.058
[SPEAKER_00]: Cope's good at it, Marcosco's good at it, but you need your champion to be out there doing it too.
01:34:38.138 --> 01:34:39.339
[SPEAKER_01]: Hangman's not bad at it.
01:34:39.439 --> 01:34:42.442
[SPEAKER_01]: I've seen Hangman do, like Hangman's a really likable guy.
01:34:43.023 --> 01:34:54.854
[SPEAKER_01]: So if you can get him on some of these morning shows, especially in Canada, like if you can get him all over like sports center that we have here, sports net, you could put Tony out there as long as she's not in character, I think.
01:34:54.894 --> 01:34:57.056
[SPEAKER_00]: I think her being in character would be a turn off.
01:34:58.123 --> 01:35:01.981
[SPEAKER_01]: Mercedes is good at times, especially really good.
01:35:03.169 --> 01:35:07.010
[SPEAKER_00]: when she's not when she's kind of backed off the CEO character.
01:35:07.070 --> 01:35:08.470
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah.
01:35:08.530 --> 01:35:11.551
[SPEAKER_00]: She is really good at this stuff, but yeah.
01:35:11.771 --> 01:35:16.792
[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, Tony, the problem is is like when you take the character way, like she doesn't have a ton of charisma.
01:35:17.852 --> 01:35:18.032
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
01:35:18.093 --> 01:35:19.053
[SPEAKER_01]: Without the characters.
01:35:19.153 --> 01:35:20.733
[SPEAKER_01]: So all right.
01:35:20.773 --> 01:35:21.673
[SPEAKER_01]: So we'll see what happens.
01:35:21.773 --> 01:35:24.154
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm kind of, I'm really looking forward to the next month.
01:35:24.874 --> 01:35:31.936
[SPEAKER_01]: As a fan of both companies, I'm, I'm looking actually I'm honestly more into what's going on in NXT right now than main roster, but
01:35:33.356 --> 01:35:33.536
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
01:35:34.096 --> 01:35:34.737
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
01:35:34.937 --> 01:35:35.557
[SPEAKER_01]: Just the way I feel.
01:35:36.517 --> 01:35:37.718
[SPEAKER_01]: But that's fine.
01:35:37.778 --> 01:35:38.698
[SPEAKER_00]: It's just interesting.
01:35:38.718 --> 01:35:39.258
[SPEAKER_00]: That's just fine.
01:35:39.278 --> 01:35:39.578
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
01:35:40.059 --> 01:35:40.219
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
01:35:40.799 --> 01:35:43.820
[SPEAKER_01]: But anyways, Jeff, let's do your plugs.
01:35:43.860 --> 01:35:44.280
[SPEAKER_01]: We're over time.
01:35:44.320 --> 01:35:54.604
[SPEAKER_00]: I have I have plugs to to give at crap game thirteen on X. I'll be on a show on love wrestling.ca called between two Beards tomorrow.
01:35:55.284 --> 01:36:05.370
[SPEAKER_00]: with plug-o and JPJ, it's going to be part Clash and Paris preview, part NFL preview with Rick Uchino as well.
01:36:05.830 --> 01:36:18.738
[SPEAKER_00]: So two Bengals fans, Rick does a lot of, he does some stuff for FIFO, I thought he used it, but I can't remember right now, I don't have his credentials, but that'll be tomorrow at APM Eastern Phi Pacific.
01:36:20.238 --> 01:36:25.101
[SPEAKER_00]: Talking football with him is fun because Chippee J is just such a New England Homer.
01:36:25.902 --> 01:36:31.885
[SPEAKER_00]: And then shake them ropes this week, all the news and whatnot.
01:36:31.945 --> 01:36:44.633
[SPEAKER_00]: But for Vader club, I have decided to do a ten year retrospective of one Sasha Banks versus Bailey from Brooklyn to where are we in women's wrestling?
01:36:46.050 --> 01:36:47.090
[SPEAKER_00]: Did Dave get wrong?
01:36:47.330 --> 01:36:47.630
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
01:36:48.911 --> 01:36:49.751
[SPEAKER_00]: Start rating.
01:36:51.712 --> 01:37:04.435
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's going to be a long discussion about Bailey really because I don't know at the end of her career where it lands now.
01:37:04.795 --> 01:37:06.476
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's starting to worry me a little bit.
01:37:06.616 --> 01:37:09.857
[SPEAKER_00]: But that'll come out probably Saturday or Sunday.
01:37:10.960 --> 01:37:11.180
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
01:37:11.300 --> 01:37:15.121
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I think I think wherever it ends is going to be where her buddy ends.
01:37:15.641 --> 01:37:19.762
[SPEAKER_01]: So I think the two of them are going to be in the same place and the question is, well, that's going to be.
01:37:20.442 --> 01:37:21.242
[SPEAKER_00]: I do as well.
01:37:21.643 --> 01:37:22.823
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
01:37:22.923 --> 01:37:24.683
[SPEAKER_01]: And for me, I'll be doing.
01:37:24.703 --> 01:37:27.724
[SPEAKER_01]: I think to take down with Garrett, we did a live show this week.
01:37:27.824 --> 01:37:30.385
[SPEAKER_01]: It's still up on the Viking Media YouTube channel if you want to check it out.
01:37:30.445 --> 01:37:38.706
[SPEAKER_01]: So whatever big news breaks over the weekend, what we talking about on Monday and then Jeff and I'll be back next week with the second show from Philly.
01:37:39.307 --> 01:37:40.767
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll see if I'm sick of this building yet.
01:37:41.067 --> 01:37:43.389
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what I already am.
01:37:43.869 --> 01:37:44.089
[SPEAKER_01]: So.
01:37:46.491 --> 01:37:47.232
[SPEAKER_01]: For Jeff.
01:37:48.212 --> 01:37:52.455
[SPEAKER_01]: I've been Paul Fontaine and this has been the dynamite show.
01:37:52.475 --> 01:37:54.457
[SPEAKER_00]: Go who's.