Okada vs. Tanahashi & Jr. Heavyweight Booking Chaos: NJPW Road Recap | Speaking of Strong Style

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[SPEAKER_01]: Another skill in Anjo's in the books.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we also have a superhuman, Taiji Ishimori, got ridiculous one more time that we're gonna recap for you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We've got world tag league news.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We've got restful kingdom matches made.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There are no Stephen Conway this week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's me Jeremy Findstone, along with Paul Fontaine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And this is speaking a strong stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hello, everybody listening live and joining us later on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is Speak Your Stroke's Tell.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And if the intro set, I'm Jeremy Feinfeld.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And this is Paul Fontaine filling in for Stephen Conway who told me where he was going, but I forgot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I did make sure I got a host today.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, high Paul, how are you?

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[SPEAKER_01]: How have your week been?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Just trying to do Steve here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, it's been interesting week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just had, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Overall, yeah, interesting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We all say, well, I, I, too, have been in for us two weeks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm, I'm currently buying a car.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't usually do that every until I absolutely have to.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's been about 10 or 15 years and hopefully another 10 or 15 years before I buy another car.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And let me tell you, Paul, I don't enjoy the process.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What's

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[SPEAKER_00]: We always just like whenever I have needed a car in the past, we make plans to go out and look and then we always end up getting the first one we look at so it's like and I used to get them quite often but it's been a while now so we've been lucky I guess I don't drive as much as I used to so that that's part of it but yeah we're probably going to be in the market in the next year or two for my wife.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I, because it could be like 10 or 15 years from now, my wife is like we should really get ahead of the like the hybrid and the eviical kind of thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm looking into all that and

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[SPEAKER_01]: The hybrid really is something that I'm like, okay, this is a pretty fantastic car.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I test drove two of them with the intention of going to a third dealership and we got to the third dealership and they just ignored us for 20 minutes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, wow.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we're just like, well, we're not going to get that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so we're down to two and usually in the past I've been the the one the first car I see let's look lock in and there is a car I had in mind, but I made sure that I was going to drive at least one other car before I did it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I really do like it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll see what happens, but yeah, that's the small talks that I have to offer here before.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, no, I just I just had something just like literally right before the show went on the air that happened that kind of jolted me, but

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know I don't want to get into it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So no worries.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, well, I hope that I hope that the sailing goes smooth with whatever that you have to do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'll probably vent about it on social media and some form.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hopefully it rectifies itself before it comes to that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, if you do want to hear more of what Paul has to talk about, we do chat regularly on a Discord with each other and you can email a GG at fight game media.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you ever want to hear what Paul has to say about AEW in which he does a show called The Dynamite Show on Wednesday and I could Jeff Hawkins that he recaps live live reaction to the show as well as the takedown that

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, I believe you to talk about the O'Cotta thing on that show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I have to tell you, I have not heard it yet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, whatever the thought you have are going to be fresh for me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And probably for a lot of listeners and viewers as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you are a man who worth many hats and one of those hats is that you are an avid follower of Nutspan pro wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You are not typically able to keep up with it on the day to day, but you are making sure that you're catching up with it by end of the week or simply like that, which is pretty much how most people do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I'm okay occasionally I'm up to date.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just like when when we get into these tournaments sometimes, you know, but when it's like when they're on their regular schedule of, you know, maybe like two or three shows a week their own world.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm using seeing them within 24 hours.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, like never live, but, you know, I tried to try to see them, you know, with the glut of Western wrestling, though.

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[SPEAKER_01]: that just rose on our lap sometimes just like okay I need to figure out how I'm gonna watch this show exactly how I'm gonna stay current with it but it is on my priority list so absolutely and and the new Japan app makes it pretty easy to do that like yeah

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, like, you know, I'll use the match menus and sometimes I'll skip matches that I don't think you're going to be terribly interesting, but I try to watch most of them and then, you know, like, and you can tell like if there's time left at the end, that usually means there's an angle.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'll watch it till the end, but if, you know, if there's like matches over and there's like 90 seconds left, Gack and skip to the next one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you're like, okay, we're just walking to the back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We got the weekend.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we had a couple of shows, one show that we both watched.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then another show that, unfortunately, neither of us decided we were going to pay the $22 in American that it was going to take to watch Tajji Shmori.

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[SPEAKER_01]: God bless the man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I like Tajji Shmori.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But again, I'm buying a car, guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and as much as you like somebody, like, do you really need to see them have like 12?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I thought it would be way more interesting to get your reaction as I read the recap of what New Japan posted for the show because honestly, we're all gonna find out together what they're showing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sure, yeah, sounds good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, let's get started here.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Here we go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We started in Anjo with the Young Lions match and this was a standard Young Lions match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There wasn't anything other to it other than these guys just kind of showing off what they got and I was pretty happy that I actually had nox for it and I lost this one and as a middle of me right talking about a real life, I don't have the names of these guys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like you find the

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[SPEAKER_01]: There we go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, if y'all could untie each other's engine and show me kind of so this match actually didn't happen and this match did that was very what what what was it which match the first match yeah I got trying to I'm trying to actually just said what I think it was second.

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[SPEAKER_01]: that's what it was.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The real problem.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The real problem.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The real problem.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The real problem.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But like that first match, the Matsumoto and Marashima, is this the first time Matsumoto is wrestling a while?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because I don't remember seeing him like recently and he looked a lot bigger.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You'll bigger and you'll jacked.

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[SPEAKER_00]: E jacked and just like bulky.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like not, yes, thick.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's a good word.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like not.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to say his fact because he's not,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like you don't almost like hardly jats will be if you were young.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yeah, that's like that's very good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so yeah, that's what stood out to me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then just yeah, I was like, oh, geez, I haven't seen him in a while.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, I like like, I love these young, these young boy matches.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I really get into them and often give, you know, I read every match I watch.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And like I often give these matches, higher ratings than a lot of the main card matches.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because I just really get into the story.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're trying.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like this is really an audition every night.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, like to define where they're going, you know, I hate to you like a Harry Potter reference, but it's like the sorting hat and Hogwarts, we're like you figure out what like what house you're going to end up being in like the way these guys wrestle really does define the future that they're going to have.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's absolutely, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And if I'm like, if I'm looking at a card and and I don't have time to watch a whole card and speaking what I'm going to watch, I will invariably always watch the young line singles matches and then I will watch a title match and I will watch any singles match on the main card those those are my priorities.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, if it's a mixed if it's a six man, eight man, ten man, you know, I'll usually skip those if I'm short of time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I did watch this whole show though and yeah, so so this I there's no way I was skipping more Sheema and Matt's a motto because I'm a new Japan sicko You are that's what you're I'm glad you're my go to to get something Yeah, I can have the conversation with you and not worried that you don't know what I'm talking Exactly, yeah, and you know, and we talk to a lot of the same people All right, so this match

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[SPEAKER_01]: Tai Chi and Mastery Austin Edwards is Zane Jane Shomekato.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Tai Chi starts the match with the height man at first in the Zane Jalebo's Tai Chi, off the apron and Yasted a kick to Kato off the rim.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Tai Chi then tags in and proceeds to beat the living hell out of Zane J.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was honestly pretty amusing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He was just he was not up for these kids giving him the crap kicking him over and over over again while in a half crap caught on yosena tag in Cutter got the heat, Tai Chi then came in with the baby face fire.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Tai Chi and Jay went out and again.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She got a little bit of heat, but Tai Chi was so like the dude was hitting him with stint.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What he used to being hit with baseball bats.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, yeah, back from a little longer than we did, too, but you'll be shocked here the Taiji finished off the edge with a backdrop.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, I, uh, Zane Jays and other one that is putting on some size, growing his hair out, so he's probably getting close, um, you know, and, um, so him and Kato, like our two of my, maybe my two of the favorite, two of my favorites of the online.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, to see them teaming was cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously, Tai Chi's in there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he's going to get the pin and Jay was likely going to be the guy who's going to beat.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because Kato has had a few Matt mean card matches already.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, I quite enjoyed this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I, for me, it didn't over stay my welcome, but I can definitely see how some people might think.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I was like, OK, Kato, you're kind of beating the crap out of this guy a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's think about that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, you've made your point.

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[SPEAKER_00]: actually like I'll say like right now like I there wasn't a bad match on the show um you know there was uh you know a couple that could have been better but you know we had very little of the nonsense it wasn't that awesome yeah yeah yeah and then you know of course we got the huge angle in the main event so yeah yeah yeah so for me like I was I was pretty into everything do you um we have talked on the show

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what, to be honest, I never really thought of it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's possible I suppose.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, you know, he's like, you just had a lot of stuff there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That picture of him off to the right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You see that tiger mask on and like, yeah, I actually could kind of see that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I could kind of.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, I mean, like said, I never thought of it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I mean, it's it's kind of funny because when you go back and look at, you know, like the current people now and go back and look at them when they were young lions, like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: They often look nothing like what they look like so it's hard for me to like imagine that There's a few people over the years that I could tell right away like gay disguise Gonna be a big deal and Yoda Suji was one like literally like from the first match I remember texting Dave and telling him keep an eye on this guy

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, you know, and, and, and there, you know, and there's been a few others over the, you had a lot of him, you and him wanted him to be belted over Sonata like right away.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: When he, yeah, we're around like when Sonata won the bell, like two years ago.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Sonata was to come in and Yoda came back and they had the Dominion match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I remember you and him were both advocating pretty hard.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, just put the belt on the studio.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, do you remember during the pandemic, and they were when they were doing those strong shows, and they had Yoda Suji doing those comedy commercials already, and this is when he was still a young lion, and they were like, they were like, they were like, they were like, yeah, yeah, the personality, the look is completely different now, but he had a great look even as a young lion, like once he grew his arrowed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, and that that guy that died a few years ago, the the bodybuilder guy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was another one that I can't I always forget his name, but I know you're talking about yeah, he's another one that I right off the bat, you know, I saw and and with that like Shoma Kato and is is another one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And again, with Yasuda like he saw that I just never really given a ton of thought, but now that you mentioned it, I'll definitely keep an eye because obviously they're going to probably need another tiger mask.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think if they get a young guy in 2026 or 2027 that put them on that mask and legitimately athletic and can be like an upper midcard top level act for the company, it's going to do really well for New Japan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah, and that's like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That'll settle set him up for like the next 15 years.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So after this match in the backstage column, I'll tell you what you talked about as she backstage and the fact that as she got injured and was going to be as partner for world tagly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then the turn of fate that he now has to do if she could Gima as his partner.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they have a history, a very long history.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it kind of, they're playing into that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But take you now, baby, face.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he kind of went into a good Gima in the backstage comments where you've talked about the fact that Gima was complaining about not getting an invite for it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then now he's just kind of an alternate.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you think that that's the case, we're not going to win any matches and bro like we better win some matches.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So get off your ass and be the consumer that you used to be and it's like damn dude.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That is a different Taiichi than the ones that we are used to from the last like 10 years.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you're the old dad of New Japan and he's

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's there to just have people straight and you watch that match of the just adding and it's like, okay, this is his role now, he's just the old dude to each you just coming in and walking us.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a couple of guys like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Goto, she, E, Taichi, they're probably going to have that role for some here to come.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yoshi, Yoshi, Yoshi, Yoshi as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, next match, next match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We would have that one for a little while.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Tagramath, Conman, Bolton, Oig versus Chickabath, Young, Callon, Newman, and the Great O'Con.

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[SPEAKER_01]: main takeaway from this match is that newman have really trying to build up the heel persona.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, everyone mainly did their stuff, but the finish had newman pinned Hanman and then lay in punches and elbows while Han was still down.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is a slow burn angle, newman is not someone that they are going to have a whole lot of important going in a rest of kingdom, but I think coming out of rest of kingdom on the other side, coming out of 2026.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's going to have an important role to play in the Japan.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What do you think about this?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I had the exact same thought as you this has been building for a while and like not like it's weird because I don't know what's exactly going on with the night and empire like are they is it are they all going to turn heel is it just are they going to splinter off like obviously I feel like great of con is part of that Calm Newman obviously I'm not sure where's Zach and OE was stand hardly could go either way so you know like it'll be interesting to see how that all plays out but

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[SPEAKER_00]: If Gabe Kid is leaving, like a lot of people think he does, then that's probably where, you know, or, finally, too, would be where you would need a guy like Calum Newman, and obviously, they think a lot of him, because, you know, he got a world title shot earlier this year, and, and he's, you know, like, he, yeah, he's, clearly, like, you know, way better than his experience and his years.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He did a bad stage comments and he had access to grind about all the old members of the United Empire that said they were his brothers and where are they now and you guys aren't worth crap and he's gonna rebuild it in his image.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So he made the decorations.

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[SPEAKER_01]: These are not empty decorations to me, but he still has a ways to go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's kind of in that, he's kind of in that David Simley before he became a book club Wardog leader, where he was just kind of a guy and he didn't, he's had a couple of wins there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're like, oh, that book, that book is a name on the map.

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[SPEAKER_01]: but nothing definitive.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Funny and I am because I was thinking Jay White.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, it's like the same thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I will be into this role and you grow into it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think he's in a position where that opportunity needs to present itself.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And hopefully he'll be able to step up with that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, what are you going to do?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, we got to Gucci, oh no, geto.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you're more eating shingo versus dokey show and Yuduro talk a hoshie.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So my first hot and hot this match was, geto got a fast kick so bad we then he turned yellow again.

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[SPEAKER_01]: thrown into the ring post, crotch first, and he just, he couldn't stand being good anymore.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Other than that, he eventually tagged in Chingo for the fire.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a pretty good match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Finish head issue more, he giving show the bloody cross, and then I managed to get all the translation for everything happened in the backstage for everything that happened on the show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we're going to, I'm going to run this down for you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Desperado then comes out and says, Bro, you stole my belt and your match is suck, but you don't also think that your match is suck.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And since you have unfinished business with all of us, how will doubt it?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Don't you call them all morons and he runs away.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then the backstage comments he's laying there with showedy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, I'm the king of juniors, but you can have your little contenders match, but you got a throw show in there as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's how we get to the four way match that we're going to have.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a kingdom in which we have a contenders match for the junior heavyweight title, but we don't actually have a junior heavyweight title.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: how you get there, I guess, or I mean, that's certainly one way to go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You could have just had somebody win the tournament.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, you're going to make it difficult.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I, yeah, the match was fine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There was very little house torture nonsense, so that was cool with that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And as you can maybe tell, I don't generally watch those backstage interviews, so I do appreciate your recaps of them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, they, this one's important because of, yeah, completely in Japanese.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The entire show was just, you watch it and you just see these kind of jaw jacking and I can understand the, I can't, the body language of what's going on there, but I don't know the words that they're saying.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, you kind of have to go back and wait, wait a day.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I miss, this is where we're in an

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but yeah, and it was weird seeing a single teaming with is Chamori and ghetto, but that's, you know, that's the unaffiliated and the, and the, the wardogs it is getting easier for me to accept more than I get.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I'm not it's not that it's I don't have a problem with it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just weird very weird.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And when it like combos come out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, Oh, there's you'll just see.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, there's finally.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, what the flow we like de escalating though.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And at a rate.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm actually kind of surprised by which again, like the very next match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We got the same thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's get it out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We got Gucci.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Joe to Umino and you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, he more.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oscar, Dikey, the guy and Yoda suits you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, Mad Starts, uh, total comedy, particularly wanting none of that smoke from Oscar, and uh, then it ended up being kind of standard match with night, uh, the guy using young line moves on you, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That went about as well as you to expect as you get tapped him out with a chicken wing arm walk within a minute after The guy tried to apply this near main adventure with young line moves after the match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Did you watch any of the like the post match stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, yeah, yeah, like with with, uh, with soccer, leaving chase hurricane, facing with you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And, and to go to you, hold this button running.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I did, I do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I will watch because I saw, oh, yeah, there's like, for me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I will throw them out by how easily, Oscar hurtled that barricade.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He is the side thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: from from like that far angle and they did it from from the top of the like the burn to nest and so that you can see the whole arena and he does that sprint from out the ring because he's just done with the Gucci.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he does a sprint and then he comes back to the ring and then they go back to Tuguchi chasing him out, but in the meantime of all this is happening, you've got Yoda suji in the ring and he's holding that global title and he's kind in it right in front of you, yeah, just go to and they're just sitting there going and he's other fucker, we wanted that spot against Takeshita and.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you took it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's what they're about stage comment were about like they're they're simple jealousy of the fact that you got that spot and what they have to do to get that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Go to a little more.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to make an impact in a kind of concerning sort of way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you use more baby face.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to I'm going to earn my way to the talk towards the thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What do you think about the match?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I enjoyed it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I kind of had the same feeling that Brad had with his comment there about the guy like I really like him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's got that that baby face fire that he shows, you know, even though we know why he's there and and we know what's going to happen, but you just kind of root for the guy and keep hoping that he's going to get that big win at some point.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was looking at this and just kind of thinking about what's going to happen in the tag league.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I expect Umano and we more to at the very least make it to the finals of their block, but possibly or to the finals of the tournament.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then possibly even win it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, because I think them against Oscar and, uh, uh, you know, is, is, should be the, the rest looking to match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if you've heard different or if you're thinking different.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've been running.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've been, we're going to talk about the rest looking to match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I actually thought these guys were going to beat the knockout brothers for the titles.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then the knockout brothers will win the tournament and then get the titles back at rest looking them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's how I thought it would happen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I, uh,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm in the sense of like they need to like establish and tag innovation again and having these guys just go on or run undefeated for a considerable amount of time not to find out yes the knockout brother like I'm talking through net to wrestling kingdom sure like they hold it for like 13 or 14 months.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What I was wondering that they might do because the show is going to be on TV.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm getting the sense that it's not going to be a 10 match card, but more like a 789 match card.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so people are going to unless you are able to 50 get people in there, you're not going to get everyone on the card.

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[SPEAKER_01]: are all kind of guys that right now they don't have a plan and they're all in this world tagly and I was kind of wondering if they were going to do

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[SPEAKER_01]: like some type of four-way elimination match where they have bishamon and they have showed in you and they have Zach Saber-Jung and Reo, they were and the knockout brothers and maybe one of the teams and we made the other but the knockout brothers end up at the top of the chain after all these other various established very main event teams all fell by the way size and a four-minute you can do rematches with all

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[SPEAKER_01]: all the time, but I'm trying to figure out how they're going to get all these people on the card and they weren't they're already done the four way for the the contenders and like who's dope.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're going to wrestle.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's probably her elbow at this point.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, you've also got the rose what is it called the rose chambo or whatever.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, that's

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's the Rambo yeah, so I mean, a lot of people are going to be in that and they've had bigger names in that thing in recent years, but like that's great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, Connie Yoshi, Haashi, if Yoshi Haashi is not in like, yeah, tag match, yeah, you're not putting that Saber in that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But you still have guys like David Finley are you going to put Gabe Kinnon on the show, you know,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm near the top of the card and you don't even have them on the show yet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm kind of thinking because you had that G8 featuring your heavyweight title that they kind of they're running that around because I remember kind of been chirping, you know, it's kind of been one of those guys that's been like the squeaky wheel gets degrees, not real, not happy all the time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Ever since night a left like he's barely a factor.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he, he's just there, you're doing a thing and I think one of the things that they're going to do to make him happy is put him in a prime spot, not wrestle kingdom, and with all those other guys kind of shunted off to, I'm next, who's now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so that's kind of where I'm thinking that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so you don't have, you don't have any of these guys, but potentially if you have

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[SPEAKER_01]: and something.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's an idea.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think they're doing that, but like right like there's they have five, five matches and they're probably going to have two or three more in out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the tag match, the junior heavyweight match, and maybe a special single match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Are we going to get Jake we back to fight David Finley?

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[SPEAKER_01]: God, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's really

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, we went off on the tangent there, but we are back, we are back with, no, this isn't the next batch.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There are a bit of shaman and desparado over because we were.

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[SPEAKER_01]: uh, Jatsin and Zach Saber Jr.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This was a fun to call a match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Highlight for me was OE1 Desperado wrestling for a bit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They had been in the ring together for like 8 months.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And for whatever reason, I really like that combination.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think Desperado is worth really well with a bunch of different styles.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And while he's done a lot with Zach Saber Jr in the past,

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just, I really like those two together.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Currently, Johnson with the sacrificial land to fish among Shoto, and what do you got?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I love seeing Zach and OEWA teaming again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I worked in the tag league last year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they, like, they, to me, they stole the show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, they had, like, probably like half of the best matches on in that tournament.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, they, they're a great team.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, they are, um, you know, the great mix of styles.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And OEWA, OEWA, maybe one of the most underrated guys in the whole roster.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, everyone talks about other people, but he is,

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[SPEAKER_00]: He could be a guy that comes up in like five years from now where, you know, it'd be like, oh my god, we're sleeping on that guy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, you know, and Jackson is probably maybe the most improved guy in all the wrestling this year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, you know, like he went from being like, I thought it was just like a comedy manager like, you know, and now he's like a solid big man, you know, with, you know, he's filling that role that Folly had for years except he's like way better.

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[SPEAKER_01]: he had been all around Japan and Australia for years and they finally just kind of kicked the tires on him and he was really good you know that series with Bolton like they were like on and on and off you didn't feel like three or four months this year and I mean he leveled up after that

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[SPEAKER_00]: or treat that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He was either a tremendous actor coming out of this match or he was hurt in real bad because he had that like glassy I'd look in both of the young lines like carrying him out and he just looked like his back had given out and I was like oh man I would still not right thankfully he's not in world tag league so he's got a plenty of opportunity to heal up at that occasion.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Probably not a big big role in wrestling kingdom either.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If he's lucky

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you know, like seconding TMDK, I could see him being out there for food or something.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yo, Waton, Toriano, a company by Aaron Wolf.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I had no idea, and I'm like, what?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And who is that guy?

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's like, I thought his walker stood at first.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought he was like, it's weird, because he's probably like 10 years older than Walker, but

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[SPEAKER_01]: I looked at him and I saw some photos of him and I'm like Trudoka gear, like a little while back, and he's definitely gained a little bit of mass, and the young lion gear that he wears, you know, the gym shorts and the teacher.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do not convey a sense of terror.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He looks like a podcast host.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he looks like he's waiting and lying to get an autograph.

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[SPEAKER_00]: or McDonald's.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not trying to make comment about his weight.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just, you know, like, because he's not working for it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He doesn't look ring ready and he doesn't look barrel chest of like yossin.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I was wearing a sweatshirt too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So for all we know he could be jacked under there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, I just didn't look.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm waiting for that moment.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're all just like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like super impressed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I can't remember when it was, but there's one time when he it was when they set up the evil match I think like he just kind of whipped ass and I was like okay that works, but every other time it hasn't so I'm hoping we get that guy in the in the dome because that's it that that is like one of the most important new Japan matches in years.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, you know, it is absolutely advocating the Conway last week that they need to put a pair of sunglasses on him because the way he communicates with his eyes just doesn't quite work.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I feel like if you put like something cool sunglasses just get that image of like I'm a beast and you don't see the eyes it may work better kind of like a chono thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Probably going to need a manager too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you're going to need a couple of things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This match typical ass beating by house a torture.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, uh, uh, on water.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Upper hand until evil gets a chair and if back a wall, water with it and Aaron, uh, jumps in there, takes the bullet, takes the chair on the back, and then rolls out of the ring, go and water, get the upper hand.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They walk the vending ball in Nontogo.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Both was in the ring celebrating with the champs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm like you're booking for rest of Kingdoms.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, I assume, you know, Wolf at least at first will be part of that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What I always forget the name of that group.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What did they call them?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, uh, uh, hauntie?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, hauntie, hauntie.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, hauntie.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: H-O-N-E-A-I.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Gotcha.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, yeah, I mean, it looks like he's part of that for now, but I don't imagine that is going to be terribly long-term.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but, uh, yeah, I'm, you know, this was obviously there to build Aaron Wolf and Evil.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's funny because when I was first started watching the match, I'm just kind of like watching the match, I'm kind of like, just zoned in on the match and not really thinking about anything else.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So then when I

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[SPEAKER_00]: First off is that wolf and then of course it's wolf and then it's like then they dawned on me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, that's why they're doing this match, you know, um and uh you know because they're building to the thing and I you know what we'll talk about what what we think is gonna happen when we preview rest of Kingdom but um yeah, I mean this was this was just your standard build and those six mad belts, I mean there

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're nothing like, but they're they're a prop, you know, they're not going to be on Russell kicking them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They haven't.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, they'll be on, they'll be on, uh, new year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the raw.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And, and, and that's fine, you know, they're, they're a match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You can headline a, a house show with, you know, and, and stuff like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, one of the kind of one, one of the things I noticed after this match was, uh, the amount of baby

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[SPEAKER_01]: the handshake and stiff bump.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And if they're way of like, we're good guys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're all friends with each other.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think I saw it like 15 times between baby faces.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is there going back out of the curtain?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, yeah, man, we're friends.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Boom, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: How do you like?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's the universal code for that one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That stage comment for this one had evil, complaining that Aaron Wolf ruined a noble and fair wrestling contest, and that he will hold that against him for quite some time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Evil is fantastic.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You just have to figure out why you fantastic.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I love this dude so much and I know that I know you do there are other people that just like don't get it and maybe I'm the one that doesn't get it and everyone else is right, but it's okay if I'm wrong.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I, like I said, I, I think he's a fine wrestler.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I, I don't think he's as great as some people say he is, but then again, that's not his role either.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, I fully admit that I may not be seeing the force for the trees.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Did you, uh, did you, you know that it's been mentioned in your school lesson with River Radio?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think Dave's mentioned it, but he's craning

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I, but I, yeah, I, and that makes sense.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, so yeah, he's, he's, he's managed to be good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The match is going to be good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's no question about that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You got to imagine the way that NETT rehearses their matches, there's going to be a lot of, we're going to hit the spot and we're going to do it in this order.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we're going to run it in a couple of times.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Evel's been doing this long enough.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He knows what the reaction to everything is going to be.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So there's not community surprises.

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[SPEAKER_00]: As long as Wolf can execute whatever he's got to do, and I'm sure it's not going to be terribly complicated, they'll be fine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, before we get to the main event, I'm going to hit a couple of these comments real quick.

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[SPEAKER_01]: UFVA guy going up saying, let's have fun talking about our favorite person in the universe.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Mr. Tony Con.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, we'll get there at some point, hopefully, maybe.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Brad, who's checked in a couple of times, has been away for a while.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He is back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hello, Brad.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Glad to see you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We get to the world tag league.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're here in 99.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's suggesting HBK.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Triple H should join the tournaments.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then Brad pointing out the four way at Wrestle Kingdom is so weird.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Why not do this on a prior show and have the time to match a Wrestle Kingdom, junior time, terming to send it either.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We talked about that a little bit earlier about five minutes earlier in the show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So if you miss that, you can come back there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then we got the, let's get here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Come on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There we go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They need to do something with negai already moved up the car, but still treated as a lion.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is a big issue with the expand pro wrestling that half doesn't lie and then they start pushing them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I agree, but I do think that 2026 is going to be the year where.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're putting away the past, they are actively focusing on the future arguably they should have been doing it concurrently with Tana Haashi retiring, but they decided to put a ton of focus almost too much focus on Tana Haashi and closing this generational era and make it clean break before really launching it in that's one and I'm not sure that was the greatest idea.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But we're here, this is what's happening.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think one of the guys that have really going to get maybe the co-save food should have treatment for the last couple of years is probably going to be in the guy next in the junior heavyweight division, because he does seem to have a lot of talent.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He picks it up really well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And when food should have his elevated to the net level is one of the stoneworks of the division, they're going to need a younger guy on the up and up to be there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, I think I gave my thoughts on him earlier, so yeah, I can't really argue thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You said, yeah, uh, Brad is validating me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He likes evil work, but he does hate the house of torture bull BS.

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[UNKNOWN]: I think I'm fair.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, like, and running a little long in the tooth for me right now, too, because uh, it's been about five months and they're

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, that's a lot of you'll work for, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that's just the most recent incarnation, but I mean, I feel like this has been going on for five years.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It does, but then it could credibly have he handed in the last.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Where it's just like they're there in every never open wait since man match for the last.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, well, some iteration of them versus some iteration revolve on tie.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they run every tournament there in like me, not the whole tournament,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We got the last match of the night.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We got a ton of hockey and you don't ice.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This was a fun match, but all I need to do to sum this up is that it was a bean guy match, in which you know ice was trying to be the meanest guy in the block and beat Tonahashi.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Tonahashi basically we had to dig deep and fight hard to be the mean guy back and they had

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[SPEAKER_01]: more aggressive fight that you would expect out of Tana Hashie coming out of, you know, 50 days left of this guy's career, but he brought it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I was especially enthusiastic about having this match with Tana Hashie before he retired and it helped it a ton.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The finish was a high five flow followed by an ace and high, followed by another high five flow, and then Tonahashi got the win.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Backstage, you know, ice was gleaming in the bad stage comments.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Total baby faith promo about how he got a chance to wrestle, he weighed 15 years for this totally broke character.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But he's a quasi-baby faith with the alignment right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I guess it's okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: but for all intent to purposes, this was a bucket list match for him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that it put him on the map in a way that he was able to have a match with Tana Hashie and it'd be an upper caliber match and it was a net positive for all people involved.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What did you think?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, so I, I mean, I thought it was the best match on the show, although there wasn't really anything, you know, that on that was, you know, really even had a chance to be better than this, um, in terms of like the ton of ha she singles matches that he's had recently, I mean, I think most of them have been better.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But again, I'm not sure that this was designed, you know, it was what it was supposed to be.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I guess it was a way to put it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I do think that Yodo is there was something different with him and it may be just the moment of being in that big match with with Tanaashi where he just didn't have, um,

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's like something about his attitude, you know, that that just was not quite as sharp and biting as it normally is more about the match as opposed to trying to get his character over and you wanted to show you a tough rather than like.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, so like I mean, I really like I got to go back to like I was just looking at the matches and like I'm probably going back to like the great a con match that Tana has she had in September, but you know to get to you know everything since then has has been better, but Tana has she's I mean has great run like this is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is like, I would, there's not a chance in hell and I've expected Tonaji to have the quality matches that he's had this year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, especially when you look at his last few years, and like I told you, I keep track of all my matches.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's by far had the most matches of anybody that I've watched in 2025.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think I've seen, I think it's like 65 matches.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, a decent portion of those have been singles matches and most of them have been long and this guy's 49 with 89 year old knees and you know, and he's still doing these matches like I am just amazed and I can't think you stop and before.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, is he going to have any more?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I guess he had won a couple days later, so I know I would not be shocked if you want to knock out a couple of singles matches during the World Cup.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, there's still probably a few people he hasn't faced, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he promised to face everyone on the roster.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That could have saved you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, I mean, because he's got how many matches in the tagly?

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's seven.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, he's in the world tag with you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I thought he was.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, then, forget everything I said then.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought he was in the tag.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, he is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, we'll be previewing it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, I see.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But, um, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I mean, if that's the case, then health.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, yeah, because they're, they're, they're, they're, they're think like you don't need to throw this guy on in a world tag week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We all know what like, yeah, they're, they're better ways to use him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now he can do a match with, I mean, he'll have a match with Oscar too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, well, yeah, although I guess maybe he wasn't technically on the roster when he made that declaration earlier in the year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's a year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But you have not, I'm not necessarily sure you're having a mattress thinly before you've done that kind of thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but you know, and then you have to check off all the boxes of the ward ons.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think so.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But did he have a match with Finland this year?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I can or do I mean a deep kid?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, I believe they did.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, me not might have been.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no, that wasn't that was they had they had a match in the summertime.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I believe.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, you can get kids was like I'm so glad I got to have it like he was like crying in the ring.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that's a day they definitely had one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, I mean, yeah, and he's even doing matches in other companies.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, Capfer, we know he might have a method, not a moron know a show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so I didn't tell you this, but we both know somebody who worked for Noah, and I was like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, I should go to this show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Shouldn't I have like, yes, you should.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I went ahead and I know a guy in Japan that has nothing to do with wrestling, but does like wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, hey, this might be the case.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Can you do you want to buy the ticket and we'll pay I'll pay you back?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because I tried to go under the Noah website, I tried to do a bunch of different things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was difficult.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was trying to figure out how

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he got the ticket and I think they're ring side ticket for the Noah show and the ticket they're going to end up costing about 150 a person, but the ring side for the for the New Japan show was at least $750.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So even, both of us are bargain in my opinion, absolutely, but even if like they advertise Tonahashi for this Noah show, uh, I think Duda Khan, it's not going to make nearly as much money or get nearly as much press as that retirement match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So to net win for everybody involved, if he ends up booked on that Noah card.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But already going to have some of the WWE talent, it's going to have probably interesting matches on there already it's on New Year's Day.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what else I have planned when I'm in Japan for New Year's Day.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's like screw it Miguel Ruby and I and Pete Cooper we're all going to we're all going to go to the Noah show and on January that's a very least you got to think that one is going to be there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what that's the perfect idea whether or not he's actually on the card or wrestling Tanaashi like he's gonna be there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he's gonna be a tag together.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you can Ten more a Fuji.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You could do a tag with both of them on other side where you have Kido Kiemia and Tanaashi versus Keno and Nakamura, which actually would be kind of fun You can do a whole bunch of different things

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[SPEAKER_01]: Not the more time to hatch against Hank and tank, let's go, time to just get out of the time when my mind is the thing is, if that happens, that's going to cause a problem and yeah, it's going to be because people are going to ask questions about

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then there go, and then whatever people spin about what's happened here or what's happened there, we're going to get a whole lot more clarity because an opportunity will be provided to ask a question in an appropriate for them in which AEW doesn't necessarily have any control over what the answer is going to be.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So if there were

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[SPEAKER_01]: weird dealings with New Japan and AEW and partnership being decided that somebody didn't feel comfortable with a talent from another company working, even if all started the lining would have worked out the best.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Those questions could be asked and answered without Tony Conte having any power over who's asking and who's answering those questions.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think

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[SPEAKER_01]: if you'd be real interesting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I kind of look at this more, and maybe I'm just looking at it with rosecutter glasses, but I feel like it's probably more like, New Japan didn't even bother asking because I knew what the answer was gonna be.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, it's, and then they just determine, like, is this really worth pissing off Tony Khan?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's just not even bother asking.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But then again, I may just be naive, and maybe they do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: there were different negotiations.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There were definitely, it was definitely closer to happening than a lot of people realized.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The partnerships that were already in place prevented and approval of this happen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There you go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And however, however that

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that is at the top level, I wouldn't imagine that we are already partners with this company like this is not how we do business this is the decisions that were made years ago and we need to stick to it and if you want to find another solution to how you're going to make this happen, that's fine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: like go, go find it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think that clearly made of going is that, you know, you saw the backstage comments.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you watch a backstage comment, I mean, yeah, no, I know she was asked all of these questions, like if this guy that you wanted, like, and he, he kind of happened in hard, you know, like he kind of explained that like there are people that don't want to say some of their things that there's unfinished business.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do I have regrets?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, or there are things that I would have done differently.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I look forward to O'Kana.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I will require all my strengths to prevail one last time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All of these things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There were reports out there that, you know, he named AEW, but you got to be careful about what these

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[SPEAKER_01]: grock and AI and native translator.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not just a one to one what people are translating what you see on Twitter or blue sky or reddit or Facebook about what a Japanese wrestler said about something and then getting the telephone translation of it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Not as reliable as most of us are

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I just think it's pretty clear like if you go back and look at all the comments, Tanaashi made over the last three months and, you know, like they all point to Nakamura.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, like, you know, and so I'll caught a definitely like, I'm not disappointed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Don't get me like, I'm happy to see what's going on at the Tokyo.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Don't like you're going to be front row to see Tanaashi and I'll caught it like that's amazing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, so there's there's no complaints there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But is it what Tanahashi wanted?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I think we know the answer to that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, but this is the excellent compromise.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Ocada, it, Koyo Kada, a fallback plan is problematic because Ocada is one of the best records in the world.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And when you're watching that show, you saw the reaction that that crowd had.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, they, Tana Hachi is doing the fourth round of his guitar airplane.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's telling the crowd.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He loves them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's about to wrap it all up and you hear that coin drop.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you hear this audible gasp in the crowd like, oh, it's happening.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Or, oh, my God, I can't believe it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Your, your interpretation of, yeah, I heard it more the latter.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, it's like, really?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was the shock, you know, like they all looked up and they all like looked in one direction.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you with coming out the exit way and then you look the other way and there he comes out and he's dressed in all black and get it up wearing hot and he and he is doing his damn to hide the smile.

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[SPEAKER_01]: like he came out there and he's just like he's trying to keep that that like that will scale that will don't contain but you could hear the Okada in that like that native voice and he comes up there and the moment he throughout the smile and that ring talking to Tana Hashi he gives the biggest shooting grin he you can tell he really enjoying the moment

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[SPEAKER_01]: and say, what you will about whether you want to document a orocata or whatever, the match is going to be great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Ocata is going to do nothing less than brilliant being in the main event at the Tokyo dome in the largest crowd that he's probably ever going to be in, main eventing the show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you think he's phoning it in,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I got four years here that ain't happening.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Tana Hoshi is going to have the reaction of his life.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then afterwards, it's the real end of the show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's going to be that retirement.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, we saw the Sumi Sikai retirement at New Japan for a wrestling battle in the valley this past year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Nobody is going to tell you what that match was about.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But everyone will tell you what that retirement looks.

53:43.325 --> 53:46.990
[SPEAKER_01]: And so, especially if you were there,

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's all about the pageantry and it's all about the O'Conna and trick is all about the tonna Hockey and trick and the tier and the match and avoiding that final pinfall and one that final pinfall hit the tier of everyone realizing it's over and then whatever they have planned for after that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And like you think about it now, it comes up like

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[SPEAKER_01]: and frustrating what happened to get to this point because of the things that seem to have gotten out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If Naka Murah's negotiation had never gotten out and we're all blissfully unaware and we just got Ocada, no one's gonna have the sense of like, oh God, we could have had Naka Murah, you know, that kind of thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just because the possibilities introduced

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[SPEAKER_01]: were unleashed with the sense of wonder and possibility.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And once that was taken away, that was ended up being the reaction was something that you'd hope with possible was no longer there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that is kind of a personal problem.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, and you said you didn't listen to Garrett and I, so his take on this and I can definitely see it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that a lot of the people that are,

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[SPEAKER_00]: upset or disappointed is probably better word that it's not Nakamura.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not so much that they prefer to see Nakamura versus Tanahashi as opposed to Ocada versus Tanahashi.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Number one, it's the idea of that true forbidden door.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, where you're getting a match that there's no pot you're getting WWE versus New Japan in the Tokyo dome and and so that's that and then there's also a subsection of people and it's a pretty large subsection of people that would just be happy that

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[SPEAKER_00]: everyone's fucking with Tony Con, part of my French, you know, and so in that sense, a lot of the noise you're hearing is people that don't like Tony Con and we're hoping that New Japan and or WWE would work together to piss them off.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I think that is also part of it and so for me personally, like I said, I, there were three names.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, Kada, Nakamura and Omega, if it was any one of those three, I'd have been happy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm happy, though, like I, I have zero disappointment that it's not Nakamura would have been great if it's not Kumar.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's awesome that it's so caught six months ago, and you know this because people were asking you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, when they knew you're going to Japan, they knew you do this show and people and they were asking you, oh, it's going to be a caught right and you're like not not a chance like you said that I can go back and listen to six months ago because we didn't think of caught it was going to go back to the dome this quick.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it is a big deal.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That O'Cott is going back to the dome.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, like if I'm wrong, you don't correct me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, I'm trying to think of the context that I...

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[SPEAKER_01]: It may be longer than six months or shorter.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I don't know what I was.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I know that came up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: My discussion, I remember...

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[SPEAKER_01]: being very against the idea that Ocata would return last year, because it had been just a year away from him leaving and it wouldn't have meant anything for him to come back last year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The only way that I saw Ocata being valuable this year was as a ton of hockey retirement, but I wasn't sure if they were going to go in that direction or if they were going to go with

57:29.348 --> 57:32.273
[SPEAKER_01]: a younger guy, like to put a younger guy over.

57:32.333 --> 57:37.501
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it wasn't like a year ago, I think we thought it was going to be Shabbada.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I wanted it to be, I wanted it to be Shabbada, or at least he was going to be the guy that forbidden door, like if they were going to find out Shabbada forbidden door, but they ended up just calling it good with the, uh, the rechal dynasty match that they had at the top.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I think they weren't happy with how that went.

57:56.855 --> 58:08.027
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, any opportunity like that those two men to get in the ring are virtually impossible for, you know, him to get into a new Japan and New Japan alone, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I mean, the other I suppose the other dark horse and I would have been disappointed with this, although I'm sure the match would have been great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It could have been the Ghana.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That would have been the Ghana.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It could have been a boochie.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It could have been night.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, nighto, yeah, nighto would have been yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: In fact, there wasn't okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There was a time when you thought it was going to be nighto.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And my short list was before Bush got injured, before I was really not sure what a

58:51.023 --> 59:14.044
[SPEAKER_01]: So that is where are you talking your preference or the like no that was what I was talking about like the like we hood of what was going to happen probably between May and June because at that time I had known that when

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[SPEAKER_01]: WWE and New Japan were working out the deal with Jeff Cobb, because you remember like he was just pulled off of the card and they were and New Japan was incredibly consulatory to make whatever they want happen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was all

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[SPEAKER_01]: to smooth the road to potentially negotiate for knock-a-mer.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Gotcha.

59:35.244 --> 59:41.135
[SPEAKER_00]: And then I think it was about a month ago when rumors behind the scenes started to pick up about knock-a-mera.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And part of that was, we didn't even know the contract status.

59:45.262 --> 59:54.038
[SPEAKER_00]: So it was possible that he wouldn't even need WWE permission to do the show, but obviously he must still be under contract because otherwise I'm sure he'd be doing the show.

59:54.440 --> 01:00:03.264
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, so whether or not, you know, he's under no compete, I'm pretty sure he's probably got him for, you know, next year or at least the first few months in next year.

01:00:03.284 --> 01:00:09.681
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, nobody knows because with injury time and everything like you never know with with WWE contracts, but

01:00:09.661 --> 01:00:15.889
[SPEAKER_00]: And the other thing is like, I don't think Nakamura is terribly interested in leaving WWE, like he said, why would he?

01:00:16.530 --> 01:00:24.581
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, it's exactly like he's like, he's like, Nak and Rekko will a big match and know where he wants like, and he's not carve out to this contract.

01:00:24.601 --> 01:00:33.913
[SPEAKER_01]: And only reason he'd want to come back to New Japan at this point would be to like see off the era that he had.

01:00:33.893 --> 01:00:45.249
[SPEAKER_00]: Right, but he's not going to make anything close to what he's making in WWE in Japan and he's going to be working more for less money and he probably likes his life in in Florida.

01:00:45.309 --> 01:00:48.935
[SPEAKER_00]: You like to surf and is that where he's Florida is a California.

01:00:49.155 --> 01:00:50.177
[SPEAKER_00]: I think you can flirt.

01:00:50.717 --> 01:00:51.538
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, okay.

01:00:51.579 --> 01:00:51.919
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:00:51.899 --> 01:01:00.249
[SPEAKER_00]: I ran into him many a couple years ago and talked to him for a minute and just seemed like just the nicest happiest dude.

01:01:00.930 --> 01:01:13.384
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, the only thing that I could see happening for him is that he, you know, finishes out his career in WWE and he goes back to Japan to help build an acceleration.

01:01:13.600 --> 01:01:20.649
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, like that where he's committed to like taking what he knows and creating like the next generation.

01:01:20.910 --> 01:01:27.599
[SPEAKER_00]: But he could easily do what what Shabbat did and do the similar similar in the US.

01:01:28.079 --> 01:01:38.393
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he could like he he's a wealth of knowledge and the talent that he has come across in his life.

01:01:39.200 --> 01:01:54.222
[SPEAKER_00]: It's all unique, like, oh, yeah, between the MMA and the wrestling, the generations like he goes back to Mudo and even a nokey and, you know, and then go pass through like Josh Barnett and Suzuki and.

01:01:54.202 --> 01:01:55.685
[SPEAKER_00]: Like it's yeah, it's incredible.

01:01:56.466 --> 01:01:58.690
[SPEAKER_01]: He is more of an asset that people realize.

01:01:59.131 --> 01:02:14.758
[SPEAKER_01]: And the fact that he is just living his best life in WWE, like I know people don't like WWE, but whenever these wrestlers who have just absolutely destroyed their body, get paid a ton of money and their schedule gets a little bit easier, I can't help it.

01:02:15.110 --> 01:02:16.111
[SPEAKER_00]: No, no.

01:02:16.572 --> 01:02:21.317
[SPEAKER_00]: As much as we would love to see him on these big Japan shows, I, he's living his best life.

01:02:21.758 --> 01:02:24.341
[SPEAKER_00]: And every once in a while he shows up in WWE and I'm happy.

01:02:24.862 --> 01:02:26.123
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he just had a match on Monday.

01:02:26.143 --> 01:02:28.065
[SPEAKER_00]: That was maybe the best match on the show.

01:02:28.085 --> 01:02:29.587
[SPEAKER_00]: No, not the best, but really good.

01:02:30.969 --> 01:02:40.560
[SPEAKER_01]: So Brad could hear Knight of the Duke approach originally as possible, program for Tana and then he got ghosted and then he said that's the final reason why he's not coming back.

01:02:40.827 --> 01:02:42.995
[SPEAKER_01]: That makes them sad.

01:02:43.015 --> 01:02:48.313
[SPEAKER_01]: I am not necessarily sure that that's going to be the final thing that night.

01:02:48.755 --> 01:02:49.658
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, never comes back.

01:02:50.381 --> 01:02:52.187
[SPEAKER_01]: That dude wise.

01:02:52.336 --> 01:03:05.372
[SPEAKER_01]: a lot, but if it is, and he is indeed like that was the straw that broke the camel pack, that of a shame and honestly, huge fan can be better with, uh, communicating with their talent.

01:03:05.932 --> 01:03:14.202
[SPEAKER_01]: There have been instances in the past of talent that, if not at the night of level, just being told that their services are needed, I'm ceremoniously.

01:03:14.743 --> 01:03:20.790
[SPEAKER_01]: So it happens at all levels of this company

01:03:21.445 --> 01:03:27.170
[SPEAKER_01]: Guys, we are running a little long here and Paul's got 90 minutes.

01:03:27.230 --> 01:03:29.872
[SPEAKER_01]: So we're gonna skip over the issue morey thing.

01:03:30.292 --> 01:03:37.378
[SPEAKER_01]: And if you want, if you guys wanna check that out, you can go to NJPW1972, where issue morey survived.

01:03:37.559 --> 01:03:45.605
[SPEAKER_01]: One more ridiculous show in order to get his match with Dragon Kid and spoiler result on that one.

01:03:45.725 --> 01:03:51.250
[SPEAKER_01]: Did he get his result with Dragon Kid?

01:03:51.803 --> 01:03:54.006
[SPEAKER_01]: He beat him with a bowlock in four minutes.

01:03:55.307 --> 01:03:59.212
[SPEAKER_00]: You spent the rest of the total of 10 matches, 67 minutes in total.

01:03:59.532 --> 01:04:00.994
[SPEAKER_01]: I would try to find the number.

01:04:01.034 --> 01:04:03.216
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you for grabbing that for me.

01:04:03.236 --> 01:04:04.297
[SPEAKER_00]: I just did some quick match.

01:04:04.317 --> 01:04:08.823
[SPEAKER_00]: So I may be a minute or two off, but give or take a minute, 67 minutes.

01:04:08.863 --> 01:04:14.509
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, some of these matches, uh, I don't recognize the names, but sometimes they go by different names.

01:04:15.130 --> 01:04:17.052
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, Tona off you on the show.

01:04:17.032 --> 01:04:19.096
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I saw that any rest of the time.

01:04:19.116 --> 01:04:21.842
[SPEAKER_00]: He rest a little more and beat him in 4 minutes, 46 seconds.

01:04:22.945 --> 01:04:24.528
[SPEAKER_00]: Masado Tanaka was on the show.

01:04:24.749 --> 01:04:25.270
[SPEAKER_00]: That's cool.

01:04:26.192 --> 01:04:27.915
[SPEAKER_00]: In a respect Rambo match.

01:04:29.599 --> 01:04:33.808
[SPEAKER_00]: I assume Taijiishimori was the last guy eliminated by Tanaka.

01:04:33.788 --> 01:04:35.730
[SPEAKER_01]: I would assume so.

01:04:36.211 --> 01:04:36.311
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:04:36.331 --> 01:04:40.436
[SPEAKER_01]: And the match lineup for the purge night of torture, are you ready for this?

01:04:40.936 --> 01:04:42.738
[SPEAKER_01]: We have one match for this.

01:04:42.758 --> 01:04:44.941
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, is that two hour match?

01:04:46.142 --> 01:04:47.924
[SPEAKER_01]: No, 30 minute time limit match.

01:04:47.944 --> 01:04:50.668
[SPEAKER_01]: But it literally only announced one match for this show.

01:04:51.148 --> 01:04:56.654
[SPEAKER_01]: And that is Rennerita and Dictogo versus Hanzo and the great sausage.

01:04:57.435 --> 01:05:03.222
[SPEAKER_00]: Wait a minute, is this the, is this the,

01:05:04.163 --> 01:05:04.964
[SPEAKER_00]: November 19.

01:05:04.984 --> 01:05:05.124
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:05:06.086 --> 01:05:06.306
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

01:05:06.326 --> 01:05:08.229
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm looking at a lineup with the hatch three other matches.

01:05:08.610 --> 01:05:09.110
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh great.

01:05:09.170 --> 01:05:13.417
[SPEAKER_01]: Because on the actual schedule where they have the match listings.

01:05:13.437 --> 01:05:14.198
[SPEAKER_01]: If only got one.

01:05:14.539 --> 01:05:15.901
[SPEAKER_00]: Now maybe this is wrong.

01:05:16.001 --> 01:05:26.256
[SPEAKER_00]: This is pure cage match, but it's got hip toe go versus dick toe go and Milano and Sonata corner in each guy.

01:05:26.236 --> 01:05:33.826
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, and then we've got H-he-he Kudohadaka, Masado Tanaka again, and Tomorashi, well, I guess that's not happening.

01:05:33.846 --> 01:05:38.432
[SPEAKER_00]: Against the House of Torture, so Chaseo and Stonfale and Noshinobi kind of maro.

01:05:38.692 --> 01:05:43.799
[SPEAKER_01]: So maybe we'll get Tai Chi instead of, she-I have not seen any of this anywhere, and I-oh.

01:05:43.819 --> 01:05:45.561
[SPEAKER_00]: I can't wait to see this.

01:05:45.541 --> 01:05:51.901
[SPEAKER_00]: And so, and the great Sasuke against Dictogo and show, that's a match you mentioned, right?

01:05:52.823 --> 01:05:52.904
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

01:05:52.924 --> 01:05:59.584
[SPEAKER_00]: And, and this one sounds amazing in a way, uh, evil against Shun Skywalker.

01:06:00.391 --> 01:06:01.252
[SPEAKER_00]: That is right.

01:06:01.332 --> 01:06:02.734
[SPEAKER_00]: That match is happening.

01:06:02.754 --> 01:06:03.094
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

01:06:03.234 --> 01:06:08.040
[SPEAKER_00]: I am not paying for this show, but I'm very interested in the results.

01:06:08.620 --> 01:06:08.840
[SPEAKER_00]: No.

01:06:10.422 --> 01:06:15.568
[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to do Steven's thoughts on the world tag league next week.

01:06:15.888 --> 01:06:18.752
[SPEAKER_01]: And we'll be talking about whatever this was.

01:06:20.454 --> 01:06:27.141
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's the, when does the tag league take care on when that will be available to watch Wednesday morning?

01:06:27.121 --> 01:06:30.445
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and then the world tag we start Thursday morning.

01:06:30.485 --> 01:06:31.767
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so it's a week from today.

01:06:32.107 --> 01:06:32.308
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

01:06:32.909 --> 01:06:33.029
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

01:06:33.329 --> 01:06:38.396
[SPEAKER_01]: By the time our show air is going to week one night of the world tag we will have happened.

01:06:38.756 --> 01:06:39.097
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

01:06:39.237 --> 01:06:44.243
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so yeah, it's I haven't really, I haven't really had a great look at the teams.

01:06:44.263 --> 01:06:50.952
[SPEAKER_00]: There's one team in particular that I'm morbidly curious about, but other than that, that would of course be Desperado and.

01:06:51.522 --> 01:06:57.833
[SPEAKER_00]: That dude that he's teaming with that I've never seen but like everyone won't stop talking about She's she color.

01:06:57.893 --> 01:06:58.494
[SPEAKER_01]: Come on.

01:06:58.514 --> 01:07:17.766
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, she's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he as a filthy Tom calls him Yeah, so they're yeah, but I'm just you know, I'm I think this I'm hoping this tag League is me better than the junior one I can't I have to be yeah, yeah, we can absolutely have to be

01:07:18.725 --> 01:07:19.347
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:07:19.367 --> 01:07:19.667
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:07:20.008 --> 01:07:22.574
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it is a more of a traditional tournament to like this.

01:07:22.594 --> 01:07:36.328
[SPEAKER_00]: This junior tag league was like, I've never seen a tournament like this was like, it's done in a week and it was like it was just I thought I can see low effort like this in WWE back in the fifth week band days.

01:07:36.899 --> 01:07:58.502
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, then we've got these AW tournaments that get announced and they start and they we never know when they're going to end and my kingdom for a bracket from one of these western turret weapon emotions before and everything well the bracket we got brackets we just don't know when any of the matches are going to happen what we got that John scene tournament they.

01:07:58.803 --> 01:07:59.745
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, right?

01:07:59.765 --> 01:08:00.567
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:08:00.587 --> 01:08:00.707
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:08:01.429 --> 01:08:01.729
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:08:01.930 --> 01:08:04.174
[SPEAKER_00]: No, I mean, because I don't think they even know.

01:08:04.876 --> 01:08:09.505
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, you know, they're going to take it up if they go and, uh, when we have one of the great things.

01:08:09.525 --> 01:08:10.808
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, we'll tell you next Friday.

01:08:11.149 --> 01:08:11.329
[SPEAKER_00]: What?

01:08:11.470 --> 01:08:18.364
[SPEAKER_01]: So we have the continental classic and they frequently don't tell you what match is happening between those people.

01:08:18.344 --> 01:08:27.340
[SPEAKER_00]: No, if they don't know if the people are going to be healthy, you got a week and a half left and there's still like everyone's got three matches left and all of a sudden collision and dynamite everyone's wrestling three times.

01:08:27.460 --> 01:08:32.509
[SPEAKER_01]: They're loaded on December 17, died right suddenly has five.

01:08:32.569 --> 01:08:40.723
[SPEAKER_01]: That said, those tournaments are always awesome so I can't.

01:08:41.429 --> 01:08:45.779
[SPEAKER_01]: the continental class that is going to be a controversy to cash it up.

01:08:46.220 --> 01:08:55.202
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, finals for that title and to catch it a wins, but the political compromise for good.

01:08:56.228 --> 01:08:59.693
[SPEAKER_01]: In AEW, you have to get the wrestler's approval to win.

01:09:00.194 --> 01:09:05.202
[SPEAKER_01]: Otherwise, Miro and Alistair Black, or whatever, would have done more losses.

01:09:05.703 --> 01:09:11.532
[SPEAKER_01]: So how do you get O'Conan to agree with that other than make sure that he gets the main event Tokyo don't win?

01:09:11.913 --> 01:09:14.136
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, to catch you to work into the semi-vade.

01:09:14.116 --> 01:09:17.163
[SPEAKER_00]: see and and my thought is the opposite.

01:09:17.443 --> 01:09:29.931
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that it is a car to catch a but O'Cotta wins and that was the concession for Tony Khan to allow O'Cotta to do Tokyo dome.

01:09:30.232 --> 01:09:37.280
[SPEAKER_00]: is that we, uh, is that I get to be touched on my show while he's new Japan champion while he's IWGP champion.

01:09:37.600 --> 01:09:39.602
[SPEAKER_00]: So we'll see one of us I think will be right.

01:09:39.922 --> 01:09:41.524
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm pretty sure that is the finals.

01:09:41.644 --> 01:09:52.476
[SPEAKER_01]: I can't imagine anybody else in the finals, but the thing for me is like, they should absolutely have yo to suit you when at rental kingdom.

01:09:52.496 --> 01:09:52.716
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

01:09:52.916 --> 01:09:53.657
[SPEAKER_01]: I get to get you.

01:09:54.878 --> 01:09:56.340
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think

01:09:57.603 --> 01:10:00.967
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it depends what the plan is post-resistant them.

01:10:01.167 --> 01:10:03.691
[SPEAKER_00]: Is O'Cottage just there for one shot or is he one shot?

01:10:04.171 --> 01:10:05.533
[SPEAKER_01]: He's definitely for one shot.

01:10:05.553 --> 01:10:10.359
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, then I don't really see the point of of Ticketch the winning, but it might happen.

01:10:10.960 --> 01:10:13.062
[SPEAKER_00]: Ticketch isn't there for one shot.

01:10:13.222 --> 01:10:13.823
[SPEAKER_01]: He'll be there.

01:10:13.883 --> 01:10:14.804
[SPEAKER_01]: No, I know, I know.

01:10:15.605 --> 01:10:24.096
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm not sure, but the television executive if a TV saw he, they loved him.

01:10:24.156 --> 01:10:26.479
[SPEAKER_01]: They think he's like a nokey report.

01:10:26.948 --> 01:10:31.554
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just looking, I'm just listening to the fans and he doesn't seem to get that reaction.

01:10:31.614 --> 01:10:50.340
[SPEAKER_01]: That is a complete disconnect, that's the problem between the TV executives and the people in like making the businesses decisions and the response from the fans, if they've seen this guy as immensely talented, but they're not making the connection the fans are rejecting him because he's not on every tour because he's not working

01:10:50.320 --> 01:10:56.946
[SPEAKER_00]: Every night is quite at that level in terms of the fans either, but he is closer than to Keshta.

01:10:57.187 --> 01:10:57.528
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

01:10:58.773 --> 01:11:00.600
[SPEAKER_01]: And for me.

01:11:00.850 --> 01:11:14.452
[SPEAKER_01]: My, I'm having a really hard time envisioning Yoda Suji at rest of Kingdom holding both titles when he's never really won the IWGP.

01:11:14.973 --> 01:11:27.313
[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like him holding the IWGP with that title alone is the moment that needs to happen and him holding two of them feels like skipping some steps.

01:11:27.513 --> 01:11:50.787
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, and he hasn't even won that other one, but if you think about it the other way, where you have to cash it a holding both the IWGP and the global, it doesn't quite sound so far fetch when you think about if you skipped some steps or not, because he has he won the you won that title and he has the part of that then is is if to cash it is going to win and this may be our clue.

01:11:50.767 --> 01:12:02.059
[SPEAKER_00]: If the catcher is going to win that both those titles at the Tokyo Dom, then he's probably not winning the continental classic because I can't imagine him having five belts.

01:12:02.377 --> 01:12:12.032
[SPEAKER_00]: Why, because British money having a wife in this house is the other thing he's got to think about AWS storylines too and and and Tony Khan, it feels like.

01:12:12.513 --> 01:12:15.658
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, cash is going to be out of that cows family probably by the end of that.

01:12:15.678 --> 01:12:23.710
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he can totally get screwed by cows to lose the tournament and the way that and the way that Tony books.

01:12:24.533 --> 01:12:36.808
[SPEAKER_00]: The baby faces don't shine at the beginning of the future to tear it off and so he would be coming off a loss and then he'd eventually probably be go caught for that continental title or the unified title or whatever it is.

01:12:36.848 --> 01:12:45.659
[SPEAKER_01]: So this does lead into one main frustration that I have with the whole New Japan AEW relationship.

01:12:45.679 --> 01:12:48.803
[SPEAKER_01]: If the dealer all really good in interesting

01:12:48.783 --> 01:13:01.882
[SPEAKER_01]: But these are plans that benefit AEW and I'm trying to figure out how in these plans when you coordinate with Takeshida and you coordinate with Tana Haksha and you coordinate with the other Fuji and you coordinate with Ocada.

01:13:02.463 --> 01:13:05.287
[SPEAKER_01]: How do these plans benefit New Japan?

01:13:05.307 --> 01:13:13.238
[SPEAKER_01]: So you need to book out World's End to benefit AEW at the same time booking out New Japan.

01:13:14.197 --> 01:13:17.827
[SPEAKER_01]: restricting them to make sure that it benefits New Japan.

01:13:18.308 --> 01:13:28.054
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's the part that I feel is the huge disconnect between the people in charge, if that they are not aligning their own priorities with what

01:13:29.232 --> 01:13:41.567
[SPEAKER_01]: they need to rather than making sure that, you know, either their partner is ameliorated or like appeased or compromising something they really shouldn't be compromising.

01:13:42.148 --> 01:13:49.257
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I get the sense that it's not like Tony Khan obviously cares about the AW, you know, that's maybe.

01:13:49.778 --> 01:13:58.108
[SPEAKER_00]: But I'm not even sure that he would even know what's best for New Japan, let alone

01:13:58.088 --> 01:14:01.918
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think he's following that product currently terribly closely.

01:14:03.001 --> 01:14:05.106
[SPEAKER_01]: I can't see how you all have emotions.

01:14:05.347 --> 01:14:05.788
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:14:06.169 --> 01:14:06.490
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:14:06.891 --> 01:14:11.423
[SPEAKER_01]: And it can be a very powerful man like.

01:14:11.774 --> 01:14:15.619
[SPEAKER_01]: arguably more powerful than any single person in WWE.

01:14:16.179 --> 01:14:24.910
[SPEAKER_01]: WWE is an entity is incredibly powerful, but as an individual, Tony Kahn is potentially the most powerful person in progress.

01:14:25.411 --> 01:14:26.652
[SPEAKER_00]: Let me ask you this, Jeremy.

01:14:27.273 --> 01:14:27.373
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:14:27.393 --> 01:14:30.817
[SPEAKER_00]: Who is New Japan's number one partner?

01:14:35.283 --> 01:14:36.684
[SPEAKER_00]: Is it a WWE problem?

01:14:36.824 --> 01:14:40.549
[SPEAKER_00]: I would say, so yes, who is a WWE's number one partner?

01:14:42.520 --> 01:14:44.123
[SPEAKER_00]: I think the answer is not in Japan.

01:14:44.223 --> 01:14:45.486
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's CMLL right now.

01:14:45.546 --> 01:14:46.528
[SPEAKER_01]: Right now it is.

01:14:46.708 --> 01:14:47.049
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:14:47.089 --> 01:14:49.333
[SPEAKER_00]: So that there's your problem right there.

01:14:50.555 --> 01:14:51.297
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:14:51.317 --> 01:14:51.557
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:14:51.858 --> 01:14:56.907
[SPEAKER_00]: Like like like the primary plan we have stunted their relationship.

01:14:56.927 --> 01:15:01.997
[SPEAKER_00]: New Japan's relationship with the AW is way more important than.

01:15:02.483 --> 01:15:11.846
[SPEAKER_00]: Then it is to a W. Because a W has CMLL that right now is Tony's, I wonder if you want to call it shiny new toy favorite favorite child.

01:15:11.886 --> 01:15:13.630
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll call it a lot of relationships.

01:15:14.051 --> 01:15:14.633
[SPEAKER_01]: A. Yeah.

01:15:14.653 --> 01:15:19.665
[SPEAKER_01]: W feeding off of what the promotions have to offer.

01:15:20.422 --> 01:15:22.945
[SPEAKER_00]: fucking them dry in a lot of way.

01:15:22.965 --> 01:15:33.357
[SPEAKER_00]: But it's a lot easier to work with CMLL the way Tony does business because he runs shows on Wednesday and Saturday and New Japan runs or I mean CMLL ones are big shows on Friday.

01:15:33.817 --> 01:15:37.181
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a quick plane flight from Mexico City to wherever Tony is.

01:15:37.401 --> 01:15:40.565
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean even even to get to Toronto, they were able to do it.

01:15:40.605 --> 01:15:41.466
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's a long way.

01:15:41.826 --> 01:15:47.172
[SPEAKER_00]: Japan is a whole

01:15:47.438 --> 01:15:55.276
[SPEAKER_00]: CML doesn't seem to mind having their people beat on Tony's TV and they seem to love putting Tony's talent over on their big shows.

01:15:55.798 --> 01:16:02.514
[SPEAKER_01]: So you know, I'm not even necessarily sure that then you're going to be all that smooth and light of the sheet, getting injured.

01:16:02.854 --> 01:16:04.418
[SPEAKER_01]: Because that's a plan.

01:16:04.702 --> 01:16:13.392
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, I mean, I'm sure he had a, I'm sure he's like part of the tagly him getting him getting injured in a random match on a collision on a Saturday night.

01:16:13.472 --> 01:16:19.578
[SPEAKER_01]: Did he really didn't need to be in in messing with like long-term plant.

01:16:19.598 --> 01:16:20.659
[SPEAKER_01]: A dislocated shoulder.

01:16:20.740 --> 01:16:22.481
[SPEAKER_01]: He's probably out for six months.

01:16:23.463 --> 01:16:25.104
[SPEAKER_00]: And he's also what 48.

01:16:25.164 --> 01:16:27.587
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, thank you.

01:16:27.938 --> 01:16:37.371
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like you never know when that's going to be the last one, you know, like I mean, he's he'll he'll never retire, but I'm, you know, like, he's getting brain buffed through, I don't know.

01:16:37.952 --> 01:16:38.653
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, exactly.

01:16:38.693 --> 01:16:47.685
[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, like you said, it was a match that was probably announced, you know, on, you know, in the last two minutes of dynamite for collision that nobody watched.

01:16:47.851 --> 01:16:48.952
[SPEAKER_00]: and then he got injured.

01:16:49.212 --> 01:16:50.273
[SPEAKER_00]: So I mean, it's great match.

01:16:51.374 --> 01:16:55.158
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, it's she and Pock love it, but yeah, it had zero purpose.

01:16:55.819 --> 01:17:02.005
[SPEAKER_00]: Although I imagine it probably was originally going to be bleeding to blood and guts, like she used maybe going to be in that match.

01:17:02.025 --> 01:17:05.468
[SPEAKER_01]: Hopefully, but yeah, still like it.

01:17:05.488 --> 01:17:16.879
[SPEAKER_01]: Even that, you know, at any point like you're using this guy and you're putting him into situations where like his home promotion can't

01:17:17.112 --> 01:17:23.644
[SPEAKER_01]: one more drop in the bucket of things that you kind of need to make right rather than like say, oops, sorry.

01:17:23.664 --> 01:17:25.688
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, well, to be fair, I mean, they weren't used.

01:17:25.728 --> 01:17:31.860
[SPEAKER_00]: They didn't need him at the time he was being used by he W, but he got injured and now it screws up for each of the plants.

01:17:31.900 --> 01:17:35.126
[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, and that could happen on a New Japan show just as easily.

01:17:35.166 --> 01:17:39.053
[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, it's not like a reckless.

01:17:39.033 --> 01:17:44.964
[SPEAKER_01]: If there was a chance to get rid of that strong title anytime soon, that's not happening.

01:17:45.345 --> 01:17:47.108
[SPEAKER_00]: No, at least they got the tag belts off.

01:17:47.429 --> 01:17:49.272
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah.

01:17:49.293 --> 01:17:49.533
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, no.

01:17:49.613 --> 01:17:50.535
[SPEAKER_00]: I do love that team.

01:17:50.775 --> 01:17:52.198
[SPEAKER_00]: I absolutely love that team.

01:17:52.499 --> 01:18:04.749
[SPEAKER_00]: Did you get a part of it actually like that team too, but it's Tai Chi and and is she a love team yeah, then they were supposed to be a tag team here now We got to GMM dead.

01:18:05.090 --> 01:18:10.423
[SPEAKER_00]: They're making a story out of it and Hey, hey, hey, could GMM could be in the Hall of Fame tomorrow

01:18:10.960 --> 01:18:12.742
[SPEAKER_00]: to have my doubts, but it could happen.

01:18:13.143 --> 01:18:16.487
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think he will be, but I voted for him.

01:18:16.667 --> 01:18:17.408
[SPEAKER_00]: I voted for him in 10.

01:18:17.428 --> 01:18:18.710
[SPEAKER_00]: Did you really?

01:18:18.750 --> 01:18:19.631
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I did not.

01:18:20.432 --> 01:18:22.875
[SPEAKER_01]: I think I voted for Hayabusa.

01:18:22.895 --> 01:18:28.702
[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't say I voted for Hayabusa because I don't I voted for Hayabusa in Zach and and 10 Koji.

01:18:29.122 --> 01:18:30.043
[SPEAKER_00]: I think those are my three.

01:18:30.184 --> 01:18:30.784
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

01:18:30.804 --> 01:18:32.567
[SPEAKER_01]: I did, I did, I did Hayabusa.

01:18:33.708 --> 01:18:39.415
[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't know who I'll see here.

01:18:40.002 --> 01:18:42.446
[SPEAKER_00]: Buddy, you're all flying out tomorrow.

01:18:42.466 --> 01:18:44.450
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, uh, you guys.

01:18:45.612 --> 01:18:57.133
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, see, and I considered you, but I feel like if I voted for her, it would have been more about WWE than then Japan, and I didn't, I don't feel that her Japan case is strong enough to be in the Hall of Fame.

01:18:57.586 --> 01:18:59.690
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, all right.

01:18:59.810 --> 01:19:06.422
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's run through the world tag League lineup for you just so you get an idea for the last few minutes here.

01:19:06.883 --> 01:19:10.610
[SPEAKER_01]: I had anybody have any comments or anything that they want to throw in here before we shut it down for the day.

01:19:11.171 --> 01:19:15.319
[SPEAKER_01]: Get it in tune because Paul and I are on a timetable here today.

01:19:15.960 --> 01:19:19.206
[SPEAKER_01]: In the A-block we got 18 with a

01:19:20.148 --> 01:19:25.155
[SPEAKER_01]: Three time champs of the path, Bishop on, starting off the block.

01:19:25.476 --> 01:19:33.167
[SPEAKER_01]: We have Torayano and Bold Nullag, who were a tag team last year in the world tag wait, reuniting again this year.

01:19:33.227 --> 01:19:48.670
[SPEAKER_01]: We also have Yota Suji and Gabe Kid in an odd couple pairing, which just makes you feel like this is more of a bucket list thing for Gabe Kid to tune before he goes rather than establishing a long-term direction or anything like that.

01:19:49.139 --> 01:20:05.393
[SPEAKER_01]: Yoda Fuji already got his plan match who knows what Gabe kid has planned if anything else for rest of kingdom, but the fact that he's already got something on the on the dance card basically thinks that you've got here are one of those get to come close but not quite when it in the tournament.

01:20:06.908 --> 01:20:22.794
[SPEAKER_01]: We also got to get a come close, but not quite one in the tournament in regards to evil and Don Folley, who are going to proceed to pretty much stink up every match that they are going to have, but we're all going to try and say that it's all right.

01:20:23.455 --> 01:20:25.558
[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to see how it goes.

01:20:25.538 --> 01:20:44.863
[SPEAKER_01]: uh... the replacement for tomohiro ichi is katochi kajima if he joins tai chi for their reunion in the world tag league we have desperateo and shuji i had the name it's a kai chi shi kawa

01:20:45.265 --> 01:20:58.220
[SPEAKER_01]: And he is the former Ultraman triple crown champion, and it is his, uh, both the first world tag week for both men, uh, huge, you really wanted to be in the tournament.

01:20:58.561 --> 01:21:01.544
[SPEAKER_01]: And Desk, we're all wanted to find a really huge guy to be a partner.

01:21:01.945 --> 01:21:04.608
[SPEAKER_01]: And that is the logic for them partnering to chat.

01:21:05.729 --> 01:21:14.800
[SPEAKER_00]: Is Desk, we're all the only guy that's in this tournament and, uh, and, and in the

01:21:16.332 --> 01:21:29.507
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, we got, uh, Shingo and Drola Bologna who, if you remember, had a series of rival reefs in which they exchanged winds and losses with each other throughout the year, now that they have blood together, they are going to make other people bleed.

01:21:29.827 --> 01:21:32.030
[SPEAKER_01]: See, it's going to be planned for the, it's guys.

01:21:32.851 --> 01:21:36.915
[SPEAKER_01]: And then we got you, Drola Bologna and Chase Owens.

01:21:37.676 --> 01:21:39.839
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, I believe rounding out the pack here.

01:21:39.879 --> 01:21:41.100
[SPEAKER_01]: Spoiler alert.

01:21:41.160 --> 01:21:41.901
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, one, seven.

01:21:43.045 --> 01:21:50.060
[SPEAKER_01]: I actually think they might win two and it's just kind of one of those spoiler like oh yeah we got to make the math work.

01:21:50.481 --> 01:21:55.132
[SPEAKER_01]: I think we're going to get a whole lot of heat when the two end up being in Gabe kid.

01:21:55.152 --> 01:21:56.194
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my god.

01:21:57.237 --> 01:21:58.159
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my god.

01:21:58.599 --> 01:21:59.361
[SPEAKER_01]: You're going to be excited.

01:21:59.381 --> 01:22:00.843
[SPEAKER_01]: You're like, oh, yeah, that to it.

01:22:00.863 --> 01:22:02.847
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, they could be Yano and Bolton, I suppose.

01:22:03.167 --> 01:22:03.968
[SPEAKER_01]: They could.

01:22:04.029 --> 01:22:10.299
[SPEAKER_01]: They're probably going to win two, but the two that they win is going to be called sequential to somebody trying to advance.

01:22:10.319 --> 01:22:14.106
[SPEAKER_01]: And there are going to be two teams in both blocks that advance.

01:22:14.126 --> 01:22:16.871
[SPEAKER_01]: So they'll be the winner of A and the second place.

01:22:16.891 --> 01:22:19.295
[SPEAKER_01]: I already have my picks ready, but all the way to you.

01:22:19.315 --> 01:22:20.216
[SPEAKER_01]: Really awesome.

01:22:20.417 --> 01:22:20.697
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.

01:22:21.385 --> 01:22:30.421
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, so we got the the people I care with the raining champion, you know, ice and Oscar, which you seem like strong favorites to move forward.

01:22:30.942 --> 01:22:43.123
[SPEAKER_01]: We got your favorite, the mentioned earlier, is that Saber Jr. in Rio, hey, oh, you are coming back for a second time around and should be considered a pretty strong favorite to do well in this tournament.

01:22:44.065 --> 01:22:53.177
[SPEAKER_01]: We got, ooh, Lance Archer and Algane, formerly known as Monk Trousaws, really curious that these guys are back.

01:22:53.617 --> 01:23:07.255
[SPEAKER_01]: When Archer is standing body number five for the Dawn Callos family, currently in AEW, just when you need a guy to either hit or be hit, he is your guy and making

01:23:07.235 --> 01:23:09.399
[SPEAKER_01]: A lot of money to do that.

01:23:09.519 --> 01:23:10.080
[SPEAKER_01]: So good for him.

01:23:10.540 --> 01:23:11.762
[SPEAKER_01]: So he's coming back over here.

01:23:11.823 --> 01:23:15.409
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not sure if these guys are going to be baby faces or heels going into this.

01:23:15.949 --> 01:23:22.200
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm leaning towards heels just because when torture, but they can permit you anything they want with them.

01:23:22.220 --> 01:23:25.986
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they'll probably be whatever they need to be on that night.

01:23:26.236 --> 01:23:27.278
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:23:27.298 --> 01:23:30.945
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's when we got it, Tana Hachi and ELP.

01:23:31.987 --> 01:23:37.538
[SPEAKER_01]: They have talked about wanting to work together and they're not in Tana Hachi isn't the tag league.

01:23:37.878 --> 01:23:41.325
[SPEAKER_01]: I was going to tag with you guys, talking wasn't and he was.

01:23:41.305 --> 01:23:43.969
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, by cap tip to you, Paul, I can't remember.

01:23:43.989 --> 01:23:49.296
[SPEAKER_00]: I was, I was the Kirigas, I, but no, I could have sworn like I heard the line up at some point.

01:23:49.336 --> 01:23:54.843
[SPEAKER_01]: I could have said, I mean, this does help make sure that he gets to wrestle a few more people in the thing, but yeah, I just remember.

01:23:54.923 --> 01:24:02.373
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure, but now that he's with the LPM, like, uh, yeah, he totally limits the singles matches, but, uh, it does get him more matches.

01:24:02.393 --> 01:24:04.596
[SPEAKER_00]: Do you still get to check off the boxes with the deck?

01:24:04.576 --> 01:24:11.144
[SPEAKER_01]: my joke with this is that they should have a t-shirt, which is three balls on it.

01:24:13.487 --> 01:24:13.787
[SPEAKER_00]: Sure.

01:24:14.488 --> 01:24:18.693
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, we got a Shkota Umino and Yuya Uimura.

01:24:19.995 --> 01:24:26.102
[SPEAKER_01]: This team, I think, has the potential to do either incredibly well or completely self-destruct.

01:24:26.483 --> 01:24:28.465
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's pretty much 50, 50, all that one.

01:24:28.966 --> 01:24:29.166
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

01:24:30.698 --> 01:24:48.502
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, we got another odd couple for this block, instead of Gabe Kid and Yoda Suji, we have David Finley in Haromu, Takaashi with Haromu and geto being thrown out and Finley being thrown in for the odd couple pairing.

01:24:48.522 --> 01:24:51.947
[SPEAKER_01]: I think they'll probably do all right.

01:24:52.805 --> 01:24:55.628
[SPEAKER_01]: but they're not gonna be going too far.

01:24:55.648 --> 01:25:02.335
[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, in fact, I, I would be shocked if they finished at the bottom of this group, but I don't the pack.

01:25:02.795 --> 01:25:06.379
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's hard to say because I'm, I mean, did Block B is loaded.

01:25:07.400 --> 01:25:10.203
[SPEAKER_00]: Block B is by far like, yeah, right drifting block.

01:25:10.223 --> 01:25:16.990
[SPEAKER_00]: There's like five or six teams that could, that could be in the top two and, I mean, I think what at least,

01:25:18.438 --> 01:25:22.944
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, there's like three former champions, I think, or current or former champions.

01:25:22.984 --> 01:25:24.186
[SPEAKER_00]: So, yep.

01:25:24.206 --> 01:25:24.887
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:25:24.907 --> 01:25:25.247
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

01:25:25.307 --> 01:25:27.170
[SPEAKER_01]: And then we have Great O'Con and Calum Newman.

01:25:27.270 --> 01:25:31.095
[SPEAKER_01]: I think we're going to see more of the Calum Newman mean streak.

01:25:31.115 --> 01:25:36.682
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe even trying to be trying to out quote, quote, quote, quote, with the viciousness.

01:25:36.702 --> 01:25:39.746
[SPEAKER_01]: If they were smart, that could probably the direction that they should go.

01:25:40.688 --> 01:25:42.570
[SPEAKER_00]: That they did really interesting match.

01:25:42.630 --> 01:25:47.837
[SPEAKER_00]: I think as far as that goes, we'll be the match against

01:25:48.458 --> 01:26:03.075
[SPEAKER_01]: And then, uh, rounding out this one is the final house of torture team on the card Renderina and Sonata, um, This feels like the team that you want to ignore, but maybe you shouldn't.

01:26:03.545 --> 01:26:09.151
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, this is the team where the matches are all going to suck, but the results are going to be important.

01:26:09.612 --> 01:26:17.781
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like they feel like they'll be threatening on the final night because there aren't a whole lot of teams that you don't want to go forward.

01:26:18.202 --> 01:26:23.588
[SPEAKER_01]: That possibly could and this kind of had that recipe for, oh, please, not these guys.

01:26:23.608 --> 01:26:24.068
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:26:24.089 --> 01:26:24.369
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:26:24.389 --> 01:26:28.093
[SPEAKER_00]: So they're being like the third from the top and having the chance to advance.

01:26:28.353 --> 01:26:28.894
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:26:29.228 --> 01:26:31.772
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, Abelok, who do you got before?

01:26:31.792 --> 01:26:41.589
[SPEAKER_00]: So I've got my top two, not necessarily in this order, would be a bishaman as one and suging kid as my other.

01:26:42.210 --> 01:26:43.092
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, okay.

01:26:43.573 --> 01:26:44.053
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

01:26:44.154 --> 01:26:44.935
[SPEAKER_00]: What about B-block?

01:26:45.336 --> 01:26:52.047
[SPEAKER_00]: B-block, I've got obviously the knockout brothers as one and Umano and Uemura as the other.

01:26:52.178 --> 01:27:01.087
[SPEAKER_00]: And then I have both B-block teams winning their playoff matches and then those knock-up brothers in Ulymura and Umino in the final.

01:27:03.009 --> 01:27:05.591
[SPEAKER_00]: So what that that's what it is.

01:27:05.631 --> 01:27:06.492
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a crossover, right?

01:27:06.993 --> 01:27:07.513
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:27:07.533 --> 01:27:07.794
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:27:07.814 --> 01:27:11.337
[SPEAKER_01]: So you have A and B versus A and B and then you do that work.

01:27:11.357 --> 01:27:21.207
[SPEAKER_01]: What if you had Shota and you beat them in block play and get and that be one of the losses.

01:27:21.423 --> 01:27:48.747
[SPEAKER_00]: knockout brother to vent and bish him on and put fake them and that's how you get all different teams into like the multi man cause yeah or or even you know even if they do a straight tag then you still have you still have the um we more shooter and uh they gotta have we gotta have a couple of the name for them but uh we're more in um you know with you know having a win over the champs then they

01:27:48.727 --> 01:27:51.694
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, yeah, they need to like the storm rider to come to like that.

01:27:52.396 --> 01:27:54.260
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yes, you got to get storm in there.

01:27:55.864 --> 01:28:00.154
[SPEAKER_01]: Like the heat rider or shooting storm should the shooting storm there you go.

01:28:01.538 --> 01:28:03.041
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's get that trending.

01:28:03.101 --> 01:28:04.164
[SPEAKER_01]: We we we could try.

01:28:05.166 --> 01:28:07.191
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's see here.

01:28:08.707 --> 01:28:17.759
[SPEAKER_01]: If the goal is to put the knockout brothers over at the very end, you want to have the strongest team moving forward for them to beat.

01:28:18.219 --> 01:28:18.459
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

01:28:18.479 --> 01:28:38.545
[SPEAKER_01]: So, in my mind, this is the perfect opportunity to take what fishermen have established with winning the tournament three times and then having this new team that's never been there before because they're talking, oh, we're going to win it again because the people who

01:28:38.525 --> 01:28:45.098
[SPEAKER_01]: and when they don't and if the the new team that does doubt would be kind of cool.

01:28:45.780 --> 01:28:46.180
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:28:46.200 --> 01:28:46.541
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:28:46.641 --> 01:28:48.084
[SPEAKER_01]: And maybe they win the whole thing.

01:28:48.285 --> 01:28:49.407
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe they get eliminated.

01:28:49.848 --> 01:28:59.487
[SPEAKER_01]: But at some point, I kind of I feed those two teams at a collision course and when that collision course happens, the knockout brother should be winning.

01:28:59.770 --> 01:29:12.506
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, on, yeah, an under my scenario, I guess they would be, like, you know, I guess either they won their block and knock-up brothers were second or the knock-up brothers won and Bishman was second their block and so they face in the semi-finals.

01:29:12.986 --> 01:29:13.287
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:29:13.307 --> 01:29:21.897
[SPEAKER_00]: And, uh, Suji and kid, like, I'm just looking at that group of teams and they just seem like, I suppose it could be Tai Chi and Kajima.

01:29:21.877 --> 01:29:25.021
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, you know, I don't think I don't think so either.

01:29:25.041 --> 01:29:44.428
[SPEAKER_00]: Like I'm just like there's more X is against most of these other teams and there are I really like Schinger and Drilla, but I just Schinger and Drilla, but I feel like that is probably just leading to another match between those two at some point as opposed to them being a full-time tag team, though you are interesting because I actually kind of see both of them of leading their own action to 2020.

01:29:44.648 --> 01:29:45.049
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:29:45.383 --> 01:29:47.047
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, because Shingo is, this, this alliance is not long for the world.

01:29:47.067 --> 01:29:55.208
[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no

01:29:55.323 --> 01:30:01.430
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, and and then get some younger names in there because I I think I can call them will be leading a faction at some point.

01:30:02.091 --> 01:30:17.668
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but as we talked about earlier, so yeah, just some interesting possibilities, but like I said, I think like there's way more interesting teams in that be block, but sometimes what it looks like on paper isn't what we end up getting so it's, you know, we could end up, hey, a block was the awesome group.

01:30:18.020 --> 01:30:22.208
[SPEAKER_00]: Can't imagine it looking at the lens, but it's anything's about the story.

01:30:22.228 --> 01:30:23.891
[SPEAKER_01]: It's the story block and people.

01:30:23.911 --> 01:30:24.973
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's the work rate block.

01:30:25.013 --> 01:30:27.678
[SPEAKER_00]: That's a good way to put it.

01:30:27.718 --> 01:30:28.740
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:30:28.760 --> 01:30:30.423
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, Paul, we're all wrapping up here.

01:30:30.463 --> 01:30:32.687
[SPEAKER_01]: Go ahead and get all your stuff in.

01:30:32.971 --> 01:30:33.952
[SPEAKER_00]: Well you talked about it.

01:30:34.733 --> 01:30:36.296
[SPEAKER_00]: I do the take down with Garrett.

01:30:36.696 --> 01:30:37.738
[SPEAKER_00]: That is every Monday.

01:30:37.838 --> 01:30:46.550
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'll be back with Garrett on this station Monday afternoon evening, depending on when we decide to record and then it'll be in the audio feed on Tuesday morning.

01:30:46.750 --> 01:30:54.161
[SPEAKER_00]: And then Jeff and I'll be back next Wednesday for the Dynamite Show Recapping AW Dynamite is a super sized addition.

01:30:54.621 --> 01:30:58.627
[SPEAKER_00]: So we're doing our full year preview, but we are not recapping collision.

01:30:58.988 --> 01:31:02.893
[SPEAKER_00]: So we will be on the air, you know, right after

01:31:02.873 --> 01:31:07.141
[SPEAKER_00]: We'll be going head to head to collision, and that's fine because nobody watches collision.

01:31:07.281 --> 01:31:09.946
[SPEAKER_00]: So are you are you watching full gear life?

01:31:10.967 --> 01:31:11.528
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

01:31:12.791 --> 01:31:13.392
[SPEAKER_00]: Possibly.

01:31:13.812 --> 01:31:14.794
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm caught up right now.

01:31:14.894 --> 01:31:17.840
[SPEAKER_00]: So depending on how things go with this nutrient bag leak.

01:31:18.360 --> 01:31:19.863
[SPEAKER_00]: I tend to try to watch everything in order.

01:31:21.165 --> 01:31:23.530
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I need a co-host.

01:31:23.890 --> 01:31:24.551
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

01:31:24.571 --> 01:31:25.273
[SPEAKER_01]: I do.

01:31:25.673 --> 01:31:25.934
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:31:25.954 --> 01:31:27.717
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll let you knock you in.

01:31:27.697 --> 01:31:29.903
[SPEAKER_00]: I, I definitely don't want to walk in right now.

01:31:30.244 --> 01:31:34.415
[SPEAKER_00]: The other thing is Saturdays are, um, my daughter has swimming.

01:31:34.836 --> 01:31:42.536
[SPEAKER_00]: So again, I'm messes up my day, but if I can, if I can finish everything during the day and I have time to watch at night, I will let you because it, it's Saturday, right?

01:31:42.556 --> 01:31:43.579
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not Sunday.

01:31:43.559 --> 01:31:44.320
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

01:31:44.901 --> 01:31:45.863
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's Saturday.

01:31:46.143 --> 01:31:47.946
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think I don't think it's very NFL too.

01:31:47.966 --> 01:31:48.847
[SPEAKER_01]: You're going to pretty sure.

01:31:48.907 --> 01:31:49.889
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:31:49.989 --> 01:31:53.855
[SPEAKER_00]: It's Saturday because they're doing the tailgate brawl before show.

01:31:54.175 --> 01:31:54.596
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:31:54.616 --> 01:31:55.517
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, it's a work time.

01:31:55.537 --> 01:31:56.940
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll talk about it offline.

01:31:56.980 --> 01:32:02.388
[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, if you think I'll let you know, I'll let you know before next week before your show next week.

01:32:02.809 --> 01:32:03.750
[SPEAKER_00]: I appreciate you, buddy.

01:32:03.830 --> 01:32:05.553
[SPEAKER_00]: I might have a hoax by then who knows.

01:32:05.573 --> 01:32:05.733
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

01:32:05.753 --> 01:32:07.035
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to be actually looking.

01:32:07.015 --> 01:32:09.019
[SPEAKER_01]: uh thank you again Paul.

01:32:09.059 --> 01:32:11.664
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you everybody for joining the show.

01:32:11.784 --> 01:32:22.725
[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to be back next week with the first night of the World Tag Week and whatever humorous uh perge details that we can get from purging our body of the house of torture next week.

01:32:23.206 --> 01:32:24.388
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you again Paul.

01:32:24.428 --> 01:32:29.698
[SPEAKER_01]: We are going to be back next week and uh thank you for joining the show.