NJPW’s New Era: Yota Tsuji’s New Faction & The IWGP Title Return | Speaking of Strong Style

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[SPEAKER_00]: New Year's Dash Week and sometimes be a bit quiet, but not this year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We will have plenty of news regarding factions, new matches to talk about alliances.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Plus, we'll hear more about Jeremy's time in Japan, talk about some of the other shows that went on during a big fight week over in Tokyo.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The fallout from Russell Kingdom 20 continues.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Would Jeremy find stone?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm Stephen Conway, this is Speaking of Strong Style.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Welcome, everyone.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Speaking of strong style, we discussed the news issues in events surrounding New Japan, Pro Wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Jeremy, welcome back home.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hello.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm very excited to be sitting in my chair with my normal view with a pet companion next to me, ready to talk to New Japan Pro Wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, I missed a dash.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't watch it live, but man, that was a breath of fresh air.

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[SPEAKER_00]: was a good show, wasn't it?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it had some real significance and I will say that there hasn't been a whole lot of significance except for maybe a champion getting pinned in a tag match and having a challenge come out of it for the last two years, but this one felt more significant than most, didn't it?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you know, I don't want to, I don't want to give it too much important because just one show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but I got a distinct sense of the mission statement out of the show of what 2020 that was going to be like and.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What I've always liked in comic books is when they do an issue of something, and then the very end of it, they give you like a page of want to come in the next year and just like a panel and you just see like an image here in an image there and it kind of paint the picture of what you're going to go for a long for the ride.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, very cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we're very happy to have you back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I hope you had a good birthday as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: By the way, you Jeremy's birthday fell a couple of days.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, and so both of us celebrating birthdays been the last week and having Russell kingdom and dash going on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And man, I watched it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just watched a ton of wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I got almost all of it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't watch the DDT show because you went to it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I figured we would get word on that a little bit today.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, you better recap that show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, God.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I need to catch for that one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Just a just some general thoughts is really what I'm talking about.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we'll get to all that down.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't get a need to catch for the name.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I understand.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And USBA guys here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He says it's too early for this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's still 7.30 a.m. in Tokyo.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's still over there across the fund.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Jeremy or like a week more.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, Reeves 117 is here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's so happy to finally be listening live again for glad you are as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Still recovering from staying up until six for our first live restful kingdom after always watching on delay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I imagine made it, that I needed some good strong coffee in my bag of chips to make it through it, but I did.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, I was starting to feel a little bit more normal by the time dash came around and I did watch watch dash.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was very happy with it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to break that whole car down.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Then we're going to be talking about some of the matches that came out of all that and a whole slow stuff with our new

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[SPEAKER_00]: Good news.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, good lineage news.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think on good good belt talk.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I am one of those people that really Don't care about all the belts in the world, but there are some belts that you're kind of Just kind of a little bit extra shy and just have a little bit extra like if that belt is cool looking and that's also one of the all timers

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's never been the physical belt for me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've never really cared about the physical belt.

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[SPEAKER_00]: To me, it's what it represents, the lineage, because to me, I know everybody goes nuts for big goldie in the old end, Rick Flair's NWA World Challenge, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: My favorite one was Harley-Race's one, the one before that that wasn't as our Nate and thanks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But when I picture the NWA title, I'm just saying, it's all about what the,

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[SPEAKER_00]: what the championship means, not what the, not the belt.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I felt, those are cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I don't really worry about which design they use, but I do care about, I do care about linagers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I jumped on a top rope nation because they wanted a recap of my time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So check out episode four of six of top rope nation for just an hour of me just talking about whatever they asked me about and I will recap whatever you guys want here for the next couple of weeks as far as I care I'll just recap it over and over again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But we're going to be on that show again at some point

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, yeah, we're going to record an episode about, uh, uh, matches in 1996, but you know what I have next to me, Steven is a black crap that was all from Tana Ha, she's day.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Of course.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You not stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'd love to see it and Jeremy or by the way, we're going to get to that summit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We are going to absolutely going to talk about the Jeremy has some pictures.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we're going to be talking about that too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, so this is the highest income program.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, this is for purchase at the arena and at the token shop.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So the entirety of the week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think they made millions of these because there were a lot of people in the area.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's that is a full color very slick glossy highly high quality produced product those very nice very nice.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I have mine from last year and I love it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's really cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Wightly banged up from the trip, but nonetheless, very happy happens.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It happens.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is the official thank you Tana rally sheet that was laying at my chair for the event.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What you can see in there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: are tiny images of Tonahashi, matches, and moments that make up the entire thing as a collage.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, wow.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's a photo collage.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're looking at it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you could say, yeah, you get in there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I mean, for the folks that are listening to this is a podcast, obviously, camp, but the the entire, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, they can really get it to shoot a paper.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That went fantastic.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, yeah, the entire thing is a collage of tiny little photos from Tanahashi wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's very neat.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It says thank you for talking on it with the lion mark in the middle.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Very cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That one was pretty cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This was a folder for being in the lower level of the Noah show, which happened in Zawa, and Yoshiaki and Amura, and you just have some advertisements and some liners inside, but very fancy, very nice.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm very much into that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This was a copy of the newspaper.

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[SPEAKER_01]: from Tokyo that was put into the bag along with other items for where I was sitting there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Very nice.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Very nice.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a full-color newspaper spread on Hirosh Tanahashi.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's celebrating his day.

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[SPEAKER_00]: See you here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll talk about that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: uh... i got the ruffling uh... the weekly pro wrestling in and yeah uh... say a comatonie and the president tana has she there on the cover he's in the suit and she's in her gear but yeah it's weekly pro wrestling folks it it's hard to imagine here in the states but that it shows up at

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[SPEAKER_00]: All the new stands.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You can get that thing all over the place.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It is a full color slick magazine that comes out every single week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not the only one either.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Tokyo sports has a nice publication, but it's weekly and that's weekly pro wrestling right there with the camera.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Riyoya to Naka is March.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sayaka to Rara is April.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You get we Mura is May.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we are a big fan guy in there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Caiusy to catchy, which was the star of the DDT show, and also appeared in the Rambo is June.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Barely if you're a Ram page.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is Suri and can also get to Kesha or join August.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We've got, uh, meco out of and dokey for the timber and October.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just in the garage all the time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's up to and, uh, say a comatonie for November, December and then things clean this bed.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There you go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What else we got here?

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[SPEAKER_01]: What else we got here?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Ooh, ooh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I got, uh, got my ticket for Noah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've got my

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[SPEAKER_01]: from wrestle kingdom, the actual physical tickle that they gave me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I have mine somewhere around here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And what else do I have here?

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[SPEAKER_01]: What else do you have here?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You have my DDT ticket, and I have this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: uh... or she taught a hot she printed autograph card for shopping and you don't tell that a little bit we got a lot of work and there we got it all right we go now we can see so this is it yet it's an autograph full color photo of tana hashian is gear with the date on it for the folks that are listening to this and where did you buy that or was that part of that come with every time you made a purchase at the token shop to the time you begin okay

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then I have clothes that I'll show off.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I went to Halman, which was a specialty shop near Shabuya, went to the token shop multiple times.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There was a G store shelving area in Akiabara that I managed to pick up stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I have you got you got the you made it's a pile driver at least and hard you made it to pile driver And I got him in oral Suzuki shirt.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He was there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't say I got a photo with him But it was your flag to head nod Don't look him in the eye remember the word rules don't look him in the eye now I crossed it you noticed that across the hall from that is using the goddess store Yes, he was there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They were actually trying to direct me over and say blue justice like I know what up blue justice

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's too funny.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Good luck next week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Eternal rivals, those two, eternal rivals.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Always across the offer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They had very different approaches to their shops.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They definitely do keep shop looks very curated and clean and organized.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the goddess was the Akihabara style, like here's what you're crapping into the wall.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And what do you want?

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[SPEAKER_01]: What do you want?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Much, much more like a donkey, Hote, than a sleek American style store, like a manure of

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so I also got this, uh, but there's, there's, there's stores.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's, it's funny because of course Suzuki and the got a historically, you know, hate each other and they had the tag team where they didn't get along and all that stuff, their stores are 10 feet from each other directly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're, they're literally eye to eye all the time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Which means, you know that these guys just hang out all the time and are close friends.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you, if you drop out of talking about the day one, too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's very cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Got a Lucha mask on at their printed on it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And very high end shop.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess I will night and gal and Kenny Ovego were there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Both before and after I managed to pop in there with my friend.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I felt very cool and I bought a hoodie from that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I love the hoodie.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now Jeremy has a question for Jeremy and I get me too, because I was over there a couple times last year, he asked, what do Japanese fans think of American wrestling?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Did you pick up anything about that?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um...

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's very much like a wrestling community mindset there like just be cool if you're there for the show welcome enjoy it alongside with us, but don't be the start of the show don't don't make a scene like be exactly like they are wrestling fan and there can be okay welcome cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I think he's wondering what Japanese fans think of American wrestling, not just American wrestling fans.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I thought they were American wrestling fit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I was like, what, what, what, what do they think of AEW and WWE?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And all that, my impression when I was there was that it's similar to the reverse over here is that the hardcore fans pay attention to it and work hard to find it on the internet and follow it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it's not part of mainstream culture over there, much at all.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There was not a single WWE presence that I saw anywhere whatsoever, AEW was only in wherever you saw something with New Japan already present, there's no presence whatsoever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I saw it, it's nothing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I saw some bullet club stuff that wasn't New Japan bullet club.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, that I did see some of that when I was there, I don't remember if it was specific to a particular wrestler, but it was bullet club merch that wasn't traditional New Japan bullet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Nothing like this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not, it's awesome.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: get some on the hard course out there in Japan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There are certainly Japanese fans that are wrestling nerds like we are the fellow CMLL and they follow everything, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it gets to that level.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't have a mainstream presence at a startup, absolutely nothing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: When I've been to all Japan, absolutely nothing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's well underground.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The best way I can put it is when I went to that special T-Shop, it wasn't about a faction or anything like that, it was either about the Lion Mark or it was about like Schinger to call you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They had a feature collection of a T-shirt featuring him as a profile wrestler or something like that, but it wasn't like, oh, let's do a United Empire thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It would be a great Ocon curated thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: two-to-all-con, the different-than-to-con shop, two-to-all-con, which is the mega-store that has everything in the world going back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's Valhalla for wrestling fans.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That one has American stuff in it, like some Americans have come over there and sold their gear.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Some gear has been, it's almost like a thrift store type of thing because there's some people that never wrestling Japan, but their gear is there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's kind of, you know, ring-worn gear.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's kind of funny to me, but even people that didn't get over here, but they'll, they somehow ends up in, in two to a count.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, but that place is absolutely for hard core wrestling fans.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I spent two and a half hours looking for this on a Saturday morning and I could not find it and I had to call it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, you can find it?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I never got a chance to get there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: However, Google Maps failure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What?

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[SPEAKER_01]: The Google Maps failed me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Nothing, nothing, but my own incompetent fail me, Stephen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We don't have to litigate this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, we're going to be serious.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sorry.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm dumb.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It took me two and a half pounds.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I had to meet somebody and it looks just like, you know what?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I might get a chance.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I might not.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So with that said, I ran into two people, one of them being Jim Valley, who both have been here in the past and C2 to O'Con, both in the past and now, and they're both of them what they said was, it was really cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I got a lot of stuff, but because of how many how big this event is, it was more picked over than I've ever seen in my

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, really.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's true.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's interesting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't too bad when I was there in January.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was great in May, but of course, no wrestling kingdom that, you know, that, but the in fact, New Japan was touring the country when I was there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They, they did a show in Corican while I was in Japan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I couldn't go to it, but yeah, that was.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, so yeah, I suppose that makes sense with that many people.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, there were a lot of, there were a lot of demand.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I went, I went to a giant Boba pop-up shop that was actually really tremendous and I have some photos in there that I've made out of clips day, but it was just on the 5th floor of the building.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And if you bought 4,000 yen worth of merch, including like bruiser, brody, and standhand, conteashered, they had, they had, they had all the

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, you would be able to take a photo with all three.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was my stand-hands and autograph right there behind me with giant Baba.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's those are my guys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I have pictures to send you Steven.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I will.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I took a picture of the entire pop-up thing in the world.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Beautiful.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What would it be for you?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: USDA guy mentions fun little story from Dash.

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[SPEAKER_00]: American fans tried starting a Tai Chi chant the first few minutes of the match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the Japanese fans shut that down real quick.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, we don't do that here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Leave your chance for somewhere else.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've been fair of that, by the way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Some of this American singing and chanting is like a soccer game now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like American wrestling fans, it WWE in particular.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But AEW does it to a lesser degree.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like it's almost the approach now with going to a concert.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You want to see and hear the greatest hits, and it's less about the new stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And what I mean by that is I think,

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[SPEAKER_00]: fans go to WWE and they want to sing everybody's song they want to do all the catchphrases they want to make sure all the boxes are checked with the experience yeah and just like when you go to a concert

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's a band you love, you want to hear some of the new tracks from the album, but you want to hear the stuff that you liked and what made you a fan of the band, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's more of a concert atmosphere.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think WWE fans are going there just thinking, well, I don't want them to get too creative, because I kind of want to see everybody hit their big moves and do all their catchphrases.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a weird atmosphere now in the Jeremy or it's kind of...

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it's more like going to a concert like do a piano man do piano man, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: You like you have to do the hits and so WWE kind of gets stuck in that and fans If they don't do it the fans just do it themselves.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're just gonna sing for a while That doesn't happen in Japan Japan kind of lets the show come to them instead of Cushing the show toward what they want

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is true.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is very true, but I couldn't help but just laugh and start thinking back to the main event of Tana Hashianokata when Okada just does the Raymaker post and you didn't know that you wanted to see it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he did it and it was just like, oh man, we're in the end game now like people are like super like our leveling up to as far as they can go in order to put the guy down like there's no fall off to go and it's like I really wanted to see this and then everyone just like goes nuts for it like even though they're building him the entire time like everyone wanted it they didn't know they wanted it and they got it one last time and it was just like it put everybody over the edge.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was the overriding theme of rest looking them wasn't it is that new Japan wins.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't mean that is like the company was facing invaders, but look at how Suji won with the most basic new Japan pro wrestling hold ever, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And how did Ocada have to beat Tana Hashie?

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[SPEAKER_00]: He had to become the new Japan Ocada to win.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's like he had to throw away temporarily.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like he had to throw away the Don Callous version of him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The smart ass was flipping off the fans earlier in the match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he said, no, I have to be the rainmaker.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I have to be New Japan, Okada in order to be Tana Hashi.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yota Suji had to go back to his very shaved head, black boots and trunks roots, and use a Boston crab to be Suji.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The whole theme of the night.

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[SPEAKER_00]: was that at its basis, if you just stick with the new Japan philosophy, you'll come out ahead.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's a fun message to send, especially in this time when the company is teetering right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The idea of, hey, we're going to get back to being new Japan again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's a good message to send.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm down.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, when I was able to boil down what to catch the ever since you really was, and it was made in Japan versus made in New Japan, now great time with Japan.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And out of just like, so simple.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, and what made you a New Japan is what will take you over the edge in this match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was fundamentally so simple, you know?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And even Aaron Wolfe, the whole thing is like, I'm not wearing the key.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not a judo player.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I am a new Japan pro wrestler in that letter of victory.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Way and over again, the message was stick with the process.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Trust the new Japan process and it wins.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I still think about when he came out on that stage.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm just like, you need to take that gear off right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he did.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it looks like, okay, now we're cooking.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it was just one of those like they just understood the mission statement.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And by no means is New Japan out of the works.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, not at all, not at all.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Not even like there is a sense of confidence.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I even get a sense of

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[SPEAKER_01]: anticipation from the Japanese fans.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we'll click those new beginning shows or just the ticket for selling on on that already.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I like the momentum.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I like that Yoda Suji is not a baby face champion.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I like that he could ask kicking champion.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, give me out here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I like it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's like a fighting champion.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he's like, you do not like, I'm not going to smile and nod and say, oh, you want to, you want to match?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, okay, no, like this is a title that you need to fucking earn a shot at it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And if you think you've earned it,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Get again, buddy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You've been gone for a year and a half.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't care.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Get in line.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like that's the kind of like fighting champion that I that I want right now that that makes the belt feel important because he's like, no, I'm not just giving MJF a match because Tony Colin walks to book this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If I'm in the main event and he walks to challenge me and he's spent some time here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's do it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That sounds like a fantastic match to do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But if you weren't going to put the time in, and this match, if you're going to be the main of the show, yeah, you can kick off.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm about coming.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we're going to talk about some of the things you ought to say, because he had a lot, he had a lot to say.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it does.

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[SPEAKER_00]: sort of represent his important represent his vision.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and all 100% of it makes title field important, but like it was so out of the blue.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It just felt like a mission statement right out to gate.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what I was saying is just they're telling you like, hey, they're different right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We taught how she's gone to spiling baby face that was happening with whole ship and making these decisions.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he's not there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're all fighting to be the top guy now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's how it's

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[SPEAKER_00]: want to say hello to Fernandez and Maria RSCLSIS.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm glad you two are with us as usual.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're glad to have you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So with that in mind, Jeremy, there's, there's a lot to talk about because there is some optimism going on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like you mentioned, and a lot of it came, of course, from the rest of the second half of the rest of the kingdom.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I said the first half, it's funny.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It is a tale of two shows because you had Sherry and Sya Kamatani, which was terrific.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then a lot of it before you got to the air and wolf match and then the whole thing just took off like a rocket.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, the good news is that second half of the show momentum carried over into dash and New Year's dash was a really entertaining show to watch there were good right there was good wrestling in addition to the angles.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So let's break that down because again, just like in the Tokyo dome, not to the degree, but how could it be Tokyo dome.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Almost what doubled that's attendance from last year for Tana Hashie's retirement, they didn't do that for Dash.

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[SPEAKER_00]: When I was there last year was 2,348 this year, 3,523.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So an increase of almost 1200.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's about a 50% increase.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So a little bit more than that, which is very strong, nicely done.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so there is there is some excitement.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And of course, a lot of people in town, right, more people in town and previous year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, it began with a six man tag match that had some consequence right off the bat.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We got something that ended up mattering, uh, and, uh, this was team 150.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's, of course, the Tokyo Gima Tahiti and Tomohiro Ishii who's combined ages over 150 years.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So they face, uh, Katsuya, Marashima showed it, you know, and you get way more a match one about 10 minutes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The wrestling itself was fine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't so much about that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Boston Crab finished there on Marashima's.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He was one that lost it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And what we had here was Marashima's given a lot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he did well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He did.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He boated up on Ishii and it looked and made it look really good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's the one that ended up tapping him out with the Crab.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The one thing about Marashima, he did backstage problems.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to be talking a lot about backstage comments because they mattered.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He needs to stop the loud breathing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He moans with every, is like, ha, ha, ha, ha.

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[SPEAKER_00]: When he's out of, he's playing that he's out of breath.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think he's actually out of breath.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You can't do 1,000 squats and be out of breath in three minutes of that ring action.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he's putting over the idea that he was just in this fierce battle.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he's to stop that, stop breathing with, stop breathing so loudly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You got to do it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can't just move the breathing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's, no, I'm just saying you get, it's really irritating.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's needs to stop that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But he didn't mention that he wants an excursion.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he's starting to say it enough often enough that I'm starting to think, there's a story in that, either that he gets one or that he just flat out graduates.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And E.C.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and Taichi squared off with Williamura and Umino after the match, which came into play later in the night to strong start.

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[SPEAKER_01]: May you're really understanding that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Marashima busted up a few faiths.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Don't dem a bloody nose.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Picked off as she eat probably K-F-A, like it just set off that tone and tapped him out afterwards, showed her and as she get in the faith with each other, and as she eat fluk-blood on the showdown, and then jazz, jaw-jacking with each other.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: at Shoda definitely got some weird reactions all throughout the evening.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He did.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It did happen here so much.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is just kind of lukewarm.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This one was moved.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But again, I think the direction here also played into part there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yes, but it looked warm reaction in this match, and then there was not look warm later.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll get to all that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but at this stage is just very little, but You know, that was a nothing match where nobody did anything.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it was hard to get any momentum going second match was

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[SPEAKER_00]: The call is family is that it's termed right here, but it's really just to, you can also say to Kesha and Rocky Romero, they faced L Fantasma and Shoma Cato.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to talk about L Fantasma a little bit after we go over this match, another crab finish, and this was to Kesha saying afterwards, he just wanted to get that wind back with the crab.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he used the crab on Shoma Cato, Cato did most of the work in this one, but what I wanted to talk about here is Fantasma mentioned in comments after Russell came to him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: that his opponent at rest of Kingdom during the pre-show, Chris Brooks, is a big part of the reason he went and got checked out when he was showing some symptoms he didn't like and his doctors found the cancer.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the reason is because Chris had been through something like that in his past and he knew Chris.

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[UNKNOWN]: Wow.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so, to me, Jeremy, that put a whole new perspective on that match and why it was happening.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He said that, uh, and why it mattered to ELP that it was Chris in that match at rest of Kingdom in front of 40 some thousand people.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He said that, uh, Chris,

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[SPEAKER_00]: went through the same thing, it made him go to check out and then he did a speech about how everyone should get themselves checked out, you know, get your health, do your checkouts, all that stuff, because it could literally save your life.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And to me, it just put a whole new twist on that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So after hearing that, I'm very glad that Chris Brooks and Elfantasm will have their match at rest of Kingdom in front of a sold out building, because if that's the case, if Chris is part of the reason we still have Riley, then well worth the time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: caught topping on top of the Sunday kind of thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was already happy that they were having the match and I thought the match was great and good reason to have the match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I am 100% with you on that one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I do kind of think that there's some weird stuff going on with Don Calus family and United Empire and Rocky and and Draude and all this stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So

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[SPEAKER_01]: I would not be shocked if to catch an affiant himself without a whole lot of friends, an ELP end up being one of his friends in Duchfant purposely.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, we'll see how it turns out, but that's something that happened here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I glad to have him both over there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Shomekato, by the way, will get his young lion cup tournament.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He has been tining for for months.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that is going to come up on the road to new beginning.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we'll talk about that a little bit later in the show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But he and Marashima will be the heavy favorites in that tournament.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But he got it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He asked and he asked and he asked and it was granted.

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[SPEAKER_00]: After that, we had a six-man tag match, and this would be Bishaman, hero Kigoto and Yoshi Hashie teaming up with Oleg Bolton to face the House of Torture, that being Sonata, Yoshinobukenemuro and Yuduro Takahashi went just under 10 minutes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The finish was a showdo with the splash, so Bishaman delivering the showdo while Bolton gives the flying body sausage, as it's been called for a while, but the big splash.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do I tell you that I think I did?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do I mention that

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was going back through old archives and I heard them call flying body sausage on King Kong Bundy delivering that move in like 1985 or something like just before he went back to the WWE have to be a WrestleMania King Kong Bundy had a heel run all the way back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So the flying body sausage has been the name for that move longer than a lot of us have been alive.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Not me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what I've been processed and processed processed began and revived.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Nick Reeves has a good question.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to get to later on here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he also wanted to mention, after hearing ELP's comments, I kind of wish they just presented the Don't match straight and didn't run the angles that they did.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you got to make heat for a match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you did.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I got an ELP on the DDT show, which is a nice little trait for the people who went to DDT.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I suppose, I suppose, you need to do the craft over when you're all running the same building.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just kind of like.

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[SPEAKER_01]: have a little fun with it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Everybody hinted like you said it was going to be there once one key hinted and he was going to be there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You kind of have to kind of have to do something, you know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So Jeremy, Sonata.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, out of here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He left and according to either they're working us, which I kind of doubted.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're on the NJPW 1972 website.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We got the dreaded black and white line mark logo that says Sonata is taking an indefinite

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[SPEAKER_00]: leave from the company, his post on his social media just kind of said, you know, goodbye.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm gone.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I guess, I'm less running and, and of course, part of Sonata character, that he turns on action every time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But just a scene like that, it sounds like Sonata may be at least on the way out for a while.

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[SPEAKER_01]: My understanding and this is purely a rumor, but pretty good source rumor is that he finally going to get his arm looked at and the atrophy arm and he's going to go see what he can do to get that better before two to late and if you can take some time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So he's gone from New Japan if they're going to opportunity for him to return all these things, obviously, you know, but

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[SPEAKER_01]: and it's time for him to go get fit and it's been a while since he's been right physically isn't it?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's been in snow.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's been in snow.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you got to, you got a good run it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He was the perfect guy to have a great ad trip at Reffel Kingdom, you know, and just do one more match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just kind of get that lots of little of the crap because he gave his body the nidspin.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There are one of those guys that like, he's not going to be able.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's not going to be one of those people walking down a ramp like saying goodbye to so many in 25 years, but he's also one of the people who body has hurt him in a way where he feel in the same pain that like a Kenny Omega and a Koto Bushi and all these guys are feeling like

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, strong style is not good for your body at all.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They were seeing the real, they're seeing a lot of that come home to Bruce Brad is here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm glad to see Brad here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He says, and out of leaves L.I.J., they're no longer around.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He leaves the wardogs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're no longer around.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He leaves five guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're no longer around.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He knows when to jump ship from a unit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, I guess so.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I haven't thought about it that way, but it does seem like a... You don't all have to torture.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Are you going to be around forever?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So anyway, that's not a gun for a for now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that was that match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll move on from there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There wasn't much to the match itself.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was fine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: After that, another six man tag match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This one was good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was on Droughty, L. E. Hello, Francesco Akira, Jacob Austin Young, facing court counters, Gabe Kid, Heroma Takahashi counters there to do the job on Droughty wins with the message.

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[SPEAKER_00]: kid challenged on Droughtay for February 11th with the winner getting a shot at the global title.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So Gabe is sticking around at least that long so we know that that one's apparently coming up or that it has not been formally announced on the website but that was what they were talking about there the kid wanted to shot it on Droughtay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I guess Gabe, kid, is going to be making on Droughtay a lead a low in New Japan for the time being.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm really looking forward to this batch.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I can do it by the way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: On Friday is a hell of a wrestler when he's motivated, and you know the Gabe Kid brings the intensity.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that it's an interesting little mix of styles and chemistry, but I think this could really be good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is just kind of like, I didn't know I wanted to see this in Japan, but now that it's kind of an option, I'm like, yeah, all right, all right, this is all the same.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is a bigger match that you could have.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now that Androna is fully back with AEW, I'm not necessarily sure just how much time he's going to be in New Japan and with the United Empire.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And also he's with the Don Carlos family over there and there's no real alignment between Don Carlos United Empire here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I wonder if something like that ends up being

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[SPEAKER_01]: like a realign, you know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like those are the two factions that have kind of a familial link between both promotion rather than anything else.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's the only thing that I can think of because the rest of this is kind of weird with the dynamic of who's where, what?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Even though it worked really great for restricting them, I'm not sure what happened before with that, but that's just kind of a way to think.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, so when we will indeed wait and see, but they're going to put over Andre and try to hear for a minute.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I can see him actually beating Yoda Fuji for the global title with Jake Lee interference and that pissing off Yoda

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[SPEAKER_01]: either Yoda Fuji advocates the title or he ends up losing it either way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He needs to get he needs to lose it, you know, in order for him to immediately not immediately, but at some point he's going to have to take a pinfall.

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[SPEAKER_01]: How do you want to make do you defy advocated?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Does he put it in a three way?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You in order to mean like, you

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[SPEAKER_00]: You have to say that there's a lot of ways New Japan can blow this moment.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you just heard a couple of things up into a corner within them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sometimes you just have to like pull the band aid like deal with like fit the problem and then move on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He could just win and establish this as championships that matter.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that you could always do that New Japan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You could always make your title as matter.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Just just thinking you could always just have your champion win and look good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Go ahead.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Mike tried.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Mike might work for you once in a while.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I make a champion look good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, after that, we had an eight-man tag.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This was Aaron Wolfe, kind of, Master Watto Toriano and Yo against Dictogo, Don Folley, Evelyn Rennerita.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, we talked about this journey that his matchup rest of Kingdom was going to be choreographed, it was longer than we thought, but it was certainly choreographed and a debut we all look.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: By question, immediately was, how's this guy going to do in matches that aren't specifically choreographed to get him over?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Our answer is he did two judo throws.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Got throw to the outside and beat him up a little bit and never did another damn thing the whole night.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Two judo throws off to the outside.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's not ready for regular matches quite yet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's going to be in some, but we'll talk about that in a little bit, but for Wolf, though, that he did almost nothing in the match at all.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he clearly isn't ready to work quite, but I'll say this, he's loosening up a little bit in his post match comments.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not great or anything, but.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's not as stiff doesn't look as frightened quite frankly as our nervous as he did before a little bit better in his post match stuff and he'll have a single smash coming up and he's going to be on the road to shows so they are pointing him on the road and getting him some reps thing is here Jeremy to quick judo throws and then done.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm convinced that he is going to do nothing until that Cheba show except be in that Dojo every single day.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Unless he has a prior commitment, you know, he is a celebrity.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's a famous person, he's in demand.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I'd imagine that anytime he can, he's going to be in that gym.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If he can go into Cheba and do three things instead of two.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And by the end of the tour, he can do four or five things, like the key to wolf,

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[SPEAKER_00]: only have him do what he can do what he looks good doing and try some of the other just a couple of the things but I mean I'm seriously talking about.

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[SPEAKER_00]: three things in one day, the next week, four things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I did the worst thing they could do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's closed, Teddy went to the race, not a race to the section.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, but the worst thing you can do is put them in a place to look green and foolish.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so the the last thing on earth you want Aaron Wolf to look like is a normal young lion.

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[SPEAKER_00]: period for it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, you know, so if that means he only does one or two spots until he perfect something else, then fine, this is a slow burn.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You, you've done the job.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He was on national television and he looked great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Mission accomplished.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, just don't do anything to to mess up that shine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's got, and that's, that's my advice to them, is like, I know he needs reps and all that, but be very careful with what this guy does during his work.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and make it shine in a single match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And don't have that many single matches.

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[SPEAKER_00]: As Nick Reeves said, you simply cannot deny that Aaron Wolf was listed as a participant in the match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He was absolutely there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He was there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Brad mentions his first title defense will be against Renderita, New beginning.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's new beginning.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Render's a good next opponent for him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Keep putting him in with talent like that and he'll get it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's going to run through all the House torture.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to take him six months.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let me find him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we are.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So after that, we had another inkman tag.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This one was another one that was very eventful decent enough matching.

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[SPEAKER_00]: These matches were entertaining nothing blow away until later.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We got a blow away match though.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Calum Newman, Great O'Con, Henare and Jake Lee, face the

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[SPEAKER_00]: The biggest moment of this match, Jeremy, happened before the match started.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yoda, as soon as you took off, is that really cool red jacket and revealed the V4 championship belt.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was made official that they have merged the world heavyweight title with the old IWGP heavyweight championship lineage.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So now,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Suji, Zach, Goto, are on the same list as Tanahashi and Hashimoto and Chono and Muto going all the way back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Yoda Suji is officially the 87th IWGP Heavyweight Champion.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The global title.

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[SPEAKER_00]: will also be his defendant separately.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He said that the IWGP heavyweight title will be defended on New Japan events in Japan, the way we normally think of it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Dominion, Russell Kingdom, I'm talking about.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The global title he said will be more for international events and invading wrestlers but how he put it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, foreigner comes over from another company or another country, they go after the global title,

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[SPEAKER_00]: The world title is going to be held in reserve for a real time in the world title.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we'll see if they hold to that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They don't always remember that the original version for the TV title.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The original vision for the TV title completely different than what we have now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They can always change their mind and keep in mind again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm trying to be cautiously optimistic.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And this is a company that booked poorly the last.

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[SPEAKER_00]: couple of years, really booked poorly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we've got to be cautious that all of a sudden they've figured it out and their eyes have cleared.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I hope they have, but that's what they said they were going to do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I kind of like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's see if they hold to it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He also said that he would boycott any future events that want to put anything other than the IWGP title match as the main event period.

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[SPEAKER_00]: World title comes last is the main event.

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[SPEAKER_01]: New heard me advocate for agreeing with everything that you know to suit you seven times.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm not going to really get any of that right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But a couple of little factoids with this whole heavyweight championship into the world heavyweight championship back to the heavyweight championship.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Kota Bushi was 73 on the list of the world of the heavyweight championship before transmission to the world heavyweight championship.

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[SPEAKER_01]: which was the first title holder being Will Offspray before he vacated it and then she got to go get ended up winning it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, instead of Will being the first of that lineage, he is now the 74th title holder of the Heavyweight Championship.

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[SPEAKER_01]: John Malkley is now the 81st

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[SPEAKER_01]: IWGP, heavyweight champion, so on and so on and so forth, rather than him being the eighth champion of the world, heavyweight.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So if that hopefully gives people clarity of how that is supposed to work now, basically, to catch it out with the last world, heavyweight champion, and now Kota Fuji.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and so the match took place and yeah, you nailed all that they also, by the way, he also, they brought back the actual physical belt that was the intercontinental title, this press conference and because that was part of the world heavyweight title and all that's just gets complicated, but they essentially retired the intercontinental title officially say this global title, one edge is actually the US title.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And everybody got that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now the we had a match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was it was just fine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The old belt got a bit of a pop by the way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And already.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was a wonderful.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Ari won the match for the power bomb, so putting him over coming back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I agree with Brad Harris.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Ari is look good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: These first two matches back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm happy for him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He and Gray O'Con seem to be the heavyweight team for the unit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They work well together.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I have nothing to add to that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I completely agree.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think I think it's step forward.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not an R in the lobby, and I got to tell me you're great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What did he say?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you, Mom.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's a really nice, he's a good guy to talk to.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's a goodgerious and very friendly and good with fans.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He just, he's got a charisma about him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He looks approachable even though like I just will try to do my very best to not be in their way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, we have to rest with Kingdom.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, everyone's just trying to get back to their hotel room.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They have to stumble across them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So say, say, you're a bit of moment.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Didn't ask for picture, just moved on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Nick Reeves says suggest comments on the philosophy of the global title suggested that as the main event of the non G1 U.S. shows moving forward.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and of course both for a extended period of time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I remember kid kid and on dry day are going to wrestling, each other on February 11th for a shot of the global title, what happens to be coming up at the end of February.

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[SPEAKER_00]: A show here in the United States on which suit you can defend it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So there you have it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All works out funny.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, yeah, and so, and Nick also said, I feel like I'm preparing for a high school test well, this championship, Laura.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Tell me about it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, now, what's the only news now?

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[SPEAKER_00]: There was a lot to go into this match afterwards.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Calum Newman just pissed just mad, just in a crappy mood, even the only one to imagine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And

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[SPEAKER_00]: they let's say here he says that he's going at David Finlay a lot you know they've been going at it for a while now that's what led to the match at rest of the kingdom in the first place he says it's a new united empire uh... french escola kira came back and he's all in with newman now he's gone heel in his post-match comments uh... jica boston young was always all in you know it's so a kira's post-match comments is you know the the friendly guy that was doing commentary with walker and that's that's all over with now i'm here to i'm here to hurt people

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[SPEAKER_00]: uh... in jake embossing young is already jake embossing young i like him as a wrestler but his spot as the jobber for the group kind of cracks me up when he starts doing a scrappy do routine about one to kick everybody's ass like you know like let me have money out of what yeah

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, okay, son.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're fine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're still doing the jobs for this group for a little while until they get another new guy, but he's he's a talented guy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just that whole his whole badass attitude cracks me up because he's the guy that always loses and he'd that'll change him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Kellon Newman used to be that guy not anymore.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That'll change to see see grows into his role.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's saying, new United Empire, new United Empire, when whose music hits, the leader of the old, the United Empire, will Osprey who comes out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And everyone was genuinely happy to see him at Odo Ward Jim.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He walks down to the ring and then cuts an absolute baby face promo.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Of all baby face prom was could not have been more of a smiling, I love you guys type of,

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[SPEAKER_00]: interview where he says he will come back when he can he's sorry he apologizes to the other guys this is not somebody we're trying to whip the troops in line he's like I didn't realize you were also hurt that I was gone I feel so bad about it and then afterwards you know he hugs Newman

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[SPEAKER_00]: who they almost did the thing with the look on his face.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's a trope now in wrestling where you hug a guy and then you give away your actual emotions with the look on your face and the camera captures that they did it with that god awful angle with Sina and the rock and now they're doing it all the time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a cliche now already.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Listen to you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Listen to you here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, afterwards, Newman is sitting in the ring.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's got a chair from when he was taunting Fenlay sitting in the

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[SPEAKER_00]: Will says crowns up everybody else do this and everybody does even Jake lead it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but an array.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, Khan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hell yeah crowns up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No man stands up and begins to fold up his chair to whack us prey across the back and he said they're all drumming rain to the shield and he's stopped by an array in Ocon and either will ask spray is an absolute bluthering idiot or he's going to watch this back on a replay and realize that it happened.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know we'll see which because sometimes you know

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's all these things in wrestling sometimes like you don't watch your own show we heard with the guy said, you know, like how do you not know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, and Nick mentions it look like Jake literally did not know how to do the handsome symbol for a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He was like, oh, shit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: How do you do the crown thing again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But this is first time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll get it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So clearly, Calonuma is not on board with Will Osprey.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It seems like Jake is gonna go with the flow, it's wherever the wind blows, wherever he thinks it's best for him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, Con and Henry seem like they were all in with Osprey.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I think there's going to be more twists to this tale before all these factions are sorted out fully.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, what's the end game here?

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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll put it over, Kalim.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, we'll can't come back for a long time if he can come back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think we're talking about like getting calmed to a point where he and Will have a single snatch.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I rest of the kingdom next year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You can't depend on that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We don't even know if Will's going to be able to come.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what I'm saying.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like Will came out here with a, I'm not back, but I, when I do, I'm coming to it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It sounded more like an F than a, than a Wend.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I hear you that it was an F, but there was also clearly an angle that they're setting up here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Definitely, but if all teams come together, you know, I think we'll coming back in nine months is much better to me mentally than him coming back in since, but in a year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I do think he's ready to have a match at Wrestle Kingdom and we'll see the guy if he calmed Newman.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was pretty invasive.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Next surgery you had will have to say I just want will to be I just want will to be happy and be able to walk for the rest of his life.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was next to all those guys coming down the ramp and I and I'm with you on this on them being able to take care of themselves and all that what I'm saying is is what they set up in that angle of what they're hoping to do feels like they're trying to set up a big match between the two.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, it will click David, but I think it looks like drew a to make their typeface, the font they're using is just kind of cracking me up here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't look like a V. It looks like a U.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, US VA guy has a really cool fact.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He says, fun fact for us.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I like this a lot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you, us one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: When you see the V4 and it looks extra polished and unused, it's not the regularly used V4 title belt.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It is the prototype stored in the vault originally used by J White and debuted at Madison Square Guard that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we're going to get that information, nowhere else.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you, USDA.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I appreciate that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's very cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, that was that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then afterwards, we still have more to talk about here, Jeremy, because afterwards, you know, as soon as you said,

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[SPEAKER_00]: something that I said the exact same as Nick Reeves, which is, of course, they dissolve unaffiliated just after I buy the shirt and December.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I did the same thing, Nick.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I bought the shirt and December because I liked the shirt, the unaffiliated shirt.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And now we just says, well, there's no more unaffiliated, it's not a question.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, that's all right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's already a collection of stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Affiliated, you knew those temporary.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I did, yeah, that's why I bought it when I did when it was on sale.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But the whole thing, it's still funny that I, I think I wore it one time in a lot of,

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[SPEAKER_00]: So Suji says wardogs and unaffiliated as an alliance no more.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We are now one faction.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We are called unbound company, terrible name for a faction.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll work on that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll work shut that for a bit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it's a rotten name.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But there it is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, everybody, they'll change it again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, it is a new faction.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's the thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It is molded into one faction, totally.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Shango Takagi and Haromo seem to be all in on it for now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And some of the wardogs, of course, might be here, might not as the year goes on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so some of those guys might be filtering out of the group.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a pretty large group right now, although the wardogs in it, Maloney seems like he's all in.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, Finlay is Finlay going to be a number two, but is Finlay even going to be a new Japan.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He might know that the fight for the fight for world on the street is that WWE might be interested.

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[SPEAKER_00]: WWE might be interested in a lot of things, a lot of things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Nick Reeves says unbound by itself would have been a better name.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, a little too close to unafiliated though, so I guess they wanted to just do something, you know, unbound company.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Bull club is not fine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Bull club is dead.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I do believe Bull club will not be coming back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I sell a lot of merch with that Bull club stuff on it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm really talking to the label.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, yeah, they've been graduating the war dog for a while, because I can, I canography, like it, it's very much in portage, if you really think about it, and well, that's not, yeah, that's, I mean, there are, are you next on the other side on, they have sold a lot of that stuff though, they have, and maybe that's not a good thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The gun violence thing is less of a taboo and Japan than it is here, just because they don't have it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was less of a taboo and the factional was created.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, well, they have had it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they had a prime minister associated with it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, all right, well, let's not get into the politics of it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but it's a...

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not shocked, the faction is gone, and it's probably for this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It calls to the past, this day and age, it is a little licky, it could tether to the past.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, like what are we in the in the company, like L.I.J.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's gone, bolt club is gone, you know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, there's all these things that just make you feel like.

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[SPEAKER_01]: they're moving on from the faction that heavily were defined from the last 10 years chaos is no longer a thing L.I.J.

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[SPEAKER_00]: bullet club just over time never mind some other leaving just get me to buy one of your towels TMDK is toast everybody I'm down calling it right now TMDK stripping

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[SPEAKER_00]: It seems like every, every piece of merch I buy, it's, uh, gets, uh, put on the shelf.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not, I'm put on the shelf, uh, but, uh, you know, just, get some, it's absolutely, is out, yeah, about to pass your obsolete immediately.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: With all that, that's all the news from early in the show, though, and it was interesting stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Then we had a couple of really, really good matches to have in the night.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, the first one was a sprint.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It only went seven minutes and 20 seconds.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was a DIVGP junior heavyweight tag team title match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was a four corners, so yeah, Fujita Negals, then Robbie X and Taiji is she morey, you had Dokey and show the champions and you had Desperado and Kukai.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that only seven minutes, but this was all action lots of fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: These guys just went nuts out there and it was a hundred miles an hour, but an entertaining version of it because look at the people involved in this match, good grief.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just so much talent in that ring.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Everyone did something impressive that I could see anyway.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought there was a one point just about every single guy did something where it was, oh nice hard to stand out again, but it was entertaining.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Fusion and Eagles showing off.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, show had a really good match, by the way, and at Doki's, we know he's good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Show is good also, but sometimes he gets bogged down the gimmick.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Fujin Eagles won with the Interceptor on Robbie X, fabulous stuff, TMDK and the new champions and afterwards, Francesco Akira came out and attacked Taiji Ishimori and Hiromu made the save, putting over the idea again of the unaffiliated war dogs moving into unbound company together.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Jeremy, this, I popped for this because this is getting closer to one of my all time dream tag teams, Roma Takahashi, Taiji issue, more, it's given to me one time YouTube fans all has one time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That would be a really fun tag team.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, my God.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's absolutely fantastic.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Nick Reeves says I can't explain why I'm wrapping house of torture and certainly can't explain Bullock Club to our normal person without feeling a bit of embarrassment.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We may have had to may have hit the nail on the head then as far as the murder thing goes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe it's just time to.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I've had a person here 10 years ago, but I couldn't.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I could imagine what the person, like on the street who have no idea what wrestling is, looking at me and just making a thing it to me and I'm to like, yeah, yeah, yeah, I get it can't.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So new tag team junior heavyweight tag team champions and they have their first defense lined up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to

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[SPEAKER_00]: with a hell of a good IWGP tag team title match on one side you have the champions Oscar and Uto Ice.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They faced real-hey OE1's Zack Saber Jr.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This thing was fantastic.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Serious strikes in this one folks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: These guys clearly trust one another because they were laying these shots in all four of them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Zack was hitting hard, Zack got hit hard.

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[SPEAKER_00]: OE1 and Uto went to war in this thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely blistering each other.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This was an outstanding match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I know you have Zach who can lift up just about anybody on earth.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I said, Oscar don't need a lot of lifting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They can run with these guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're not a technical wrestler.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Zach is nobody is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But in a tag team environment, these guys are as good as anybody.

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[SPEAKER_00]: they're just so terrific.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they're really charismatic.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They got the win with the knockout bomb on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, he just go back and watch this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you haven't seen this, go back and watch his fabulous match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They defend the titles.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then Jeremy, you know, ice cuts a fantastic

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[SPEAKER_00]: promo, like in Chris Charleston mentioned this, I just want to run through a wall now with you to close the show, a great match, a great promo to end.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I bet everybody walked out of old awards gymnasium just floating on air after that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's fire up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's show fire, man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: These guys, they've never, they're never going to get this amount of time on the night before.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, like this was it that they were not going to get this match in this time on the rest of the team of cards like get why they did what they did and I guess in high insight it's all fine, you know, like I wish it should have been on kingdom it should have, but they would have been this good so I and and you know wouldn't get to cut the promo like all the things that you loved about this match wouldn't have been on that wouldn't have been on kingdom.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You could have done in a rematch into that, but they should have been featured in front of that crowd, but there were hard decisions to be made.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I get it, and I'm not even going to fight it anymore.

59:29.395 --> 59:34.944
[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, but you know, Nick says, you know, his promo was enough for me to accept the smash getting bump from Russell came to himself.

59:34.964 --> 59:36.586
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and Brad loved it too.

59:36.606 --> 59:38.289
[SPEAKER_00]: He said, we might have lost the ace of the universe.

59:38.309 --> 59:39.851
[SPEAKER_00]: But now we have the ice of the universe.

59:41.534 --> 59:43.256
[SPEAKER_01]: Wow, we got a stand over here.

59:43.557 --> 59:44.959
[SPEAKER_00]: That's really, really good.

59:44.939 --> 01:00:00.993
[SPEAKER_00]: Well and the thing is it's again the messaging from Udo is that you know he used that whole let's get high big up thing where he just says you know you get the biggest high from New Japan nobody else is going to give you a better high and he did it a lot better than I just did it's fantastic.

01:00:01.734 --> 01:00:14.946
[SPEAKER_00]: It's ridiculous but it's all about New Japan New Japan putting over the company making the company the baby face it's exactly what they need right now and Jeremy is asking

01:00:14.926 --> 01:00:22.527
[SPEAKER_01]: this guy being a huge ass baby face and then show the umino getting boot out of the building which happens almost immediately around the time.

01:00:22.547 --> 01:00:26.337
[SPEAKER_01]: So why don't we bring up that with a hitching the giddy up.

01:00:26.840 --> 01:00:28.664
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, someone always comes out to, well, not always.

01:00:28.684 --> 01:00:30.868
[SPEAKER_00]: Someone usually comes out to challenge, right?

01:00:30.888 --> 01:00:36.619
[SPEAKER_00]: And so it was Uemura and Umino, who were met with, uh, and booze.

01:00:36.680 --> 01:00:44.976
[SPEAKER_00]: Now Nick Reeves mentioned that this was a higher percentage of American fans in the audience than you usually get because people weren't down for Russell Kingdom.

01:00:45.096 --> 01:00:46.339
[SPEAKER_00]: It's an interesting point.

01:00:46.359 --> 01:00:47.481
[SPEAKER_00]: And they,

01:00:47.461 --> 01:00:51.468
[SPEAKER_00]: may have been part of the chorus of booze for show to umina.

01:00:52.170 --> 01:00:59.403
[SPEAKER_00]: Nevertheless, there was definitely negative reaction to him and uh, oi more coming in, oi more has lost so much steam.

01:00:59.944 --> 01:01:03.731
[SPEAKER_00]: Since remember in the New Japan cup, we just thought, oh my god, he this guy might be just about ready.

01:01:04.132 --> 01:01:05.655
[SPEAKER_00]: And now he's just a guy.

01:01:05.635 --> 01:01:12.305
[SPEAKER_00]: And this has really been rough on him for the last uh, I don't, I'm not doing a pun on the just five guys or four guys thing.

01:01:12.345 --> 01:01:19.695
[SPEAKER_00]: He has absolutely turned into a midcard interchangeable guy in a lot of ways.

01:01:20.076 --> 01:01:25.163
[SPEAKER_00]: It's sad to see how poorly handled he's been over the last eight months.

01:01:26.071 --> 01:01:27.995
[SPEAKER_01]: See, I'm not really that worried about you again.

01:01:28.035 --> 01:01:31.742
[SPEAKER_01]: I think when he gets his next push, he's going to be immediately fine.

01:01:32.142 --> 01:01:39.536
[SPEAKER_01]: I really, I think people are just waiting for it to happen and are kind of exasperated that it's not happening right now.

01:01:39.717 --> 01:01:41.059
[SPEAKER_01]: I will say it was showed up.

01:01:43.283 --> 01:01:46.668
[SPEAKER_01]: Shota was pushed at a level that was very, very high last year.

01:01:46.708 --> 01:01:49.292
[SPEAKER_01]: We both mitigated this exactly a year ago.

01:01:49.752 --> 01:01:51.575
[SPEAKER_01]: So we're at the world tag week time.

01:01:51.935 --> 01:01:54.078
[SPEAKER_01]: He gets a title match, right?

01:01:54.479 --> 01:01:55.801
[SPEAKER_01]: And they don't win.

01:01:56.662 --> 01:02:07.417
[SPEAKER_01]: And so I think the disasteration has part to do with running that back immediately after one of their favorite to Tomo Zero, she and him get into it.

01:02:07.778 --> 01:02:12.885
[SPEAKER_01]: And if they're gonna pick a guy and out fight between the two,

01:02:12.865 --> 01:02:21.439
[SPEAKER_01]: And so when he comes in there and he's like, I want to tag immediately he default because the bad guy because he's the least popular of all the people.

01:02:21.859 --> 01:02:25.505
[SPEAKER_01]: I do think that they're really legitimate Japanese presence to those booths.

01:02:26.266 --> 01:02:29.912
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think that the American audience particularly helped.

01:02:30.432 --> 01:02:37.204
[SPEAKER_00]: And Nick was just saying, in the best of time, Japanese crowds are quiet for him, you know, which is really more of their usual response here, right?

01:02:37.464 --> 01:02:40.049
[SPEAKER_00]: But I haven't heard outright rejection form to that degree before.

01:02:40.229 --> 01:02:44.777
[SPEAKER_00]: But in Jeremy's asking why, I'm assuming he's saying, why is ice going to be a single star?

01:02:45.599 --> 01:02:47.602
[SPEAKER_00]: To me, the same reason Togimaka Bay was.

01:02:47.983 --> 01:02:52.331
[SPEAKER_00]: And Togimaka Bay was a big single star, and that it's a big, burly guy who could work.

01:02:53.052 --> 01:02:54.735
[SPEAKER_00]: And can,

01:02:54.715 --> 01:02:57.039
[SPEAKER_00]: have matches that look like fights.

01:02:57.339 --> 01:02:58.180
[SPEAKER_00]: And they look different.

01:02:58.661 --> 01:03:00.224
[SPEAKER_00]: He wrestles different than Zach.

01:03:00.244 --> 01:03:01.586
[SPEAKER_00]: He wrestles different than Suji.

01:03:02.307 --> 01:03:07.034
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a rolling mentality, but there's still work right in there.

01:03:07.355 --> 01:03:11.181
[SPEAKER_00]: And Makabe had that the Unchain Gorilla charisma.

01:03:11.421 --> 01:03:18.192
[SPEAKER_00]: And if you go back and watch Makabe in his prime when he was competing for the championship with Nakamura, Tanahashi, and thanks.

01:03:18.172 --> 01:03:26.161
[SPEAKER_00]: you can see that it's very similar to the way the crowd response to U.S. just like this guy's going to come down here and fists are going to fly.

01:03:26.461 --> 01:03:28.043
[SPEAKER_00]: And whatever happens, he's going to be excited.

01:03:28.384 --> 01:03:31.407
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's what ice brings us what Machabe brought.

01:03:31.747 --> 01:03:36.833
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a lot of Machabe in U.S. And I wonder, he means that intentionally or not, there's a lot there.

01:03:36.853 --> 01:03:38.395
[SPEAKER_00]: I think I think a lot of it is intentional.

01:03:38.415 --> 01:03:42.880
[SPEAKER_00]: But he is that kind of guy who can bring that

01:03:43.417 --> 01:03:47.080
[SPEAKER_00]: This might not go long, but it's going to be a thrill.

01:03:47.500 --> 01:03:50.963
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that's what he's going to bring.

01:03:51.264 --> 01:03:56.388
[SPEAKER_00]: And Nick Reeves mentioned that showed a new year lost twice to KOB in the last two months.

01:03:56.848 --> 01:03:57.929
[SPEAKER_00]: That doesn't help things either.

01:03:57.989 --> 01:03:59.291
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's interesting.

01:03:59.331 --> 01:04:01.572
[SPEAKER_00]: Kind of like, you know, we're doing this again.

01:04:01.613 --> 01:04:03.554
[SPEAKER_01]: That's why they're building.

01:04:03.654 --> 01:04:08.458
[SPEAKER_01]: If he showed it coming out there for another title match, a tag match challenge, you hear it's like, really?

01:04:08.939 --> 01:04:10.040
[SPEAKER_01]: We're doing this again.

01:04:10.300 --> 01:04:11.541
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I get that.

01:04:11.561 --> 01:04:12.782
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:04:13.302 --> 01:04:15.807
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, he's asking what is wrong with you, as well.

01:04:16.749 --> 01:04:17.190
[SPEAKER_00]: U.S. V.A.

01:04:17.230 --> 01:04:18.192
[SPEAKER_00]: guys says he's elastic.

01:04:18.232 --> 01:04:20.656
[SPEAKER_00]: He's the guy that the company is setting up to get behind you.

01:04:20.676 --> 01:04:21.839
[SPEAKER_00]: He is there to help shut out.

01:04:22.320 --> 01:04:26.147
[SPEAKER_00]: My thing is with his Pittsburgh booking over the last year.

01:04:26.701 --> 01:04:28.984
[SPEAKER_00]: he hasn't really had a lot to do.

01:04:29.726 --> 01:04:31.248
[SPEAKER_00]: And you can hear it in the promos.

01:04:31.288 --> 01:04:32.730
[SPEAKER_00]: There's no spirit to him anymore.

01:04:32.850 --> 01:04:39.140
[SPEAKER_00]: It's just like, show that I are going to lead New Japan forward and we are going to be the in charge of Haontai.

01:04:39.160 --> 01:04:43.446
[SPEAKER_00]: And then there was that weird thing during Tag League where he didn't bow on the lion mark.

01:04:43.506 --> 01:04:50.076
[SPEAKER_00]: And his whole thing just seems to be like, you know, we were Ra Ra, Haontai.

01:04:50.056 --> 01:04:59.661
[SPEAKER_00]: It feels flat and it's the kind of promo you do when you as the worker yourself don't know what you're doing and I don't mean that he

01:05:00.113 --> 01:05:00.994
[SPEAKER_00]: is incompetent.

01:05:01.054 --> 01:05:03.216
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm saying that I don't know what my story is.

01:05:03.697 --> 01:05:09.062
[SPEAKER_00]: So the only thing I can think of to say is it's going to be a big 2026 for you, you and more, I'm going to be the son.

01:05:09.082 --> 01:05:17.931
[SPEAKER_00]: He does that I am the son and I'm going to bring light to New Japan, but there's no direction because he doesn't know what it is and he can't just make it up.

01:05:18.051 --> 01:05:20.594
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I mean, so he's just got to kind of a lot of them don't know what they're created.

01:05:20.754 --> 01:05:22.936
[SPEAKER_01]: They're finding out what they're created for the years.

01:05:22.976 --> 01:05:24.457
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just literally right now.

01:05:25.118 --> 01:05:30.103
[SPEAKER_00]: The Nilla generic stuff and it comes off

01:05:30.083 --> 01:05:33.811
[SPEAKER_00]: and that's the booking, not he's certainly a talented guy.

01:05:34.151 --> 01:05:40.985
[SPEAKER_00]: But look when he had that direction at the New Japan Cup where it looked like he was going somewhere and then he failed in the G1.

01:05:41.426 --> 01:05:46.877
[SPEAKER_00]: And then he spent the fall doing virtually nothing and then he teamed with Shota and failed.

01:05:48.055 --> 01:05:51.785
[SPEAKER_00]: It just, it comes off now as a guy that just isn't quite good enough and he's flat.

01:05:51.885 --> 01:05:58.202
[SPEAKER_00]: Now you can push that, but until he gets a direction, he just seems like a guy just seems like a guy.

01:05:58.723 --> 01:05:59.826
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's my issue with it.

01:06:00.407 --> 01:06:04.478
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not worried, but I will validate that I see where you're coming from.

01:06:05.909 --> 01:06:07.313
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, so let's see.

01:06:07.794 --> 01:06:10.582
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and Ed Brad said ice is going to be what talking Macho Bay was.

01:06:10.662 --> 01:06:12.989
[SPEAKER_00]: The primary cut was mocks level rarer.

01:06:13.009 --> 01:06:14.674
[SPEAKER_00]: Our speech and it was exactly what was needed.

01:06:16.037 --> 01:06:20.149
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, it's the message that New Japan needs to be giving right now.

01:06:20.309 --> 01:06:20.931
[SPEAKER_00]: So.

01:06:20.911 --> 01:06:23.674
[SPEAKER_00]: That was New Year's Dash.

01:06:23.734 --> 01:06:29.481
[SPEAKER_00]: And a lot of matches ended up coming out of that, but we have some wrestle kingdom numbers as well, Jeremy.

01:06:30.602 --> 01:06:34.887
[SPEAKER_00]: And some information on how it's, and some information on how it aired.

01:06:34.928 --> 01:06:39.032
[SPEAKER_00]: So the show aired on late night TV, not terribly late.

01:06:39.092 --> 01:06:42.216
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it was on like 10, 30, 10, 15.

01:06:42.657 --> 01:06:43.398
[SPEAKER_00]: It was on the way.

01:06:44.599 --> 01:06:45.600
[SPEAKER_00]: So did not air live.

01:06:46.101 --> 01:06:47.222
[SPEAKER_00]: They cut it down.

01:06:47.793 --> 01:06:54.249
[SPEAKER_00]: The focus of it was Tana Hashie versus Okada, of course, and then Wolfen evil was shown in its entirety.

01:06:54.490 --> 01:06:57.317
[SPEAKER_00]: So that was the, that was what air to tell.

01:06:57.337 --> 01:06:59.503
[SPEAKER_00]: There were clips of Takeshta and Suji.

01:06:59.984 --> 01:07:02.089
[SPEAKER_00]: There were clips of Shuri and Kamatani.

01:07:03.098 --> 01:07:04.280
[SPEAKER_00]: rest of the card was not shown.

01:07:04.961 --> 01:07:14.436
[SPEAKER_00]: So that was what actually aired on television and Jeremy drew three and a half million viewers on TV asahi, which is a damn fine number Japan.

01:07:14.496 --> 01:07:15.999
[SPEAKER_00]: That is a strong rating.

01:07:16.119 --> 01:07:17.842
[SPEAKER_00]: People were definitely curious about this.

01:07:17.882 --> 01:07:19.825
[SPEAKER_00]: So three and a half million people.

01:07:19.805 --> 01:07:46.217
[SPEAKER_00]: uh... in a country that doesn't have that nearly the the audience here and and you know you think about that you hear about the ratings that you know raw gets about one million and all and this is special special occasion but three and a half million in a much smaller country this is a big success also heard some numbers that indicate that there were about one hundred eight thousand people watching on njpw world so tana hash he mentioned there were about a hundred fifty thousand or so

01:07:46.197 --> 01:08:00.852
[SPEAKER_00]: I can't remember the exact number he gave, I'm sorry, but that between live and NJPW world, if you subtract the audience from NJPW from the live, you get about 108,000 people watching on NJPW world.

01:08:01.533 --> 01:08:09.801
[SPEAKER_00]: To me, that's very interesting because you have to think that a lot of NJPW world subscribers in Japan were in the dome.

01:08:10.622 --> 01:08:11.022
[SPEAKER_00]: You're one.

01:08:12.484 --> 01:08:15.867
[SPEAKER_00]: So if 108,000 people were watching,

01:08:17.264 --> 01:08:26.457
[SPEAKER_00]: a good chunk of that 49,000 are also subscribers, and you can kind of get a general idea maybe how many subscribers there are to NJPW world, but they don't really release.

01:08:26.977 --> 01:08:43.660
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, David and I were talking about this the other night, and he said they absolutely blew with the numbers, like 155,000, like they only had 97,000 subs at their minds when they did their

01:08:43.640 --> 01:08:56.331
[SPEAKER_01]: Like they said the fact that they even had 155,000 subscriptions is like absolutely shattering the level of some sort of nutrient like we're on that.

01:08:56.351 --> 01:09:13.326
[SPEAKER_01]: So unbelievable numbers like everything tracking for it was an absolute massive success for a nutrient and it just feels like they have a hot product right now and they kind of feel like they have some momentum with it.

01:09:13.306 --> 01:09:16.351
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, and Brad mentioned, we were rewarded with a really fun show.

01:09:16.411 --> 01:09:16.832
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:09:16.852 --> 01:09:17.273
[SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely.

01:09:17.373 --> 01:09:18.134
[SPEAKER_00]: And they came through.

01:09:18.174 --> 01:09:19.356
[SPEAKER_00]: They had a big audience.

01:09:19.797 --> 01:09:27.590
[SPEAKER_00]: And the stuff they had on that show, delivered, the of a rest of the kingdom, those are the four matches you want people to look at those are the four.

01:09:27.890 --> 01:09:28.431
[SPEAKER_00]: And they got it.

01:09:28.531 --> 01:09:33.920
[SPEAKER_00]: So if you watch the thing, you think, yeah, this, this product's pretty good right now.

01:09:33.940 --> 01:09:34.041
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

01:09:34.061 --> 01:09:36.765
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not, but you know, hey, it was for a night.

01:09:37.285 --> 01:09:45.477
[SPEAKER_01]: I rewatched the shows on-world over the last couple of days after watching it, watching everything live, right?

01:09:47.160 --> 01:09:48.041
[SPEAKER_01]: I was in the bubble.

01:09:48.722 --> 01:09:53.489
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, like the the noise levels, did I heard on TV?

01:09:53.510 --> 01:09:57.996
[SPEAKER_01]: I couldn't hear any of that on the crap.

01:09:58.016 --> 01:10:03.124
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it's like, I, I really need to underscore this, like,

01:10:04.522 --> 01:10:19.007
[SPEAKER_01]: I, I was in the vicinity of that feeling like an Andy show with a lot of people around me, like there was a couple of like this cone of like I was only hearing what was coming in, but I couldn't hear everyone ambient all around.

01:10:19.407 --> 01:10:27.441
[SPEAKER_01]: I could feel stuff like when Ocada and Tana

01:10:27.421 --> 01:10:29.484
[SPEAKER_01]: or like, and they all did it in Newtison.

01:10:29.605 --> 01:10:41.565
[SPEAKER_01]: I could literally feel that, but the noise that was permeating on the TV about how massive that sound was, I couldn't feel it any other.

01:10:41.585 --> 01:10:42.626
[SPEAKER_00]: That's interesting.

01:10:42.646 --> 01:10:43.428
[SPEAKER_00]: That's wild.

01:10:44.309 --> 01:10:47.655
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, you know the story of Steve Austin, the WrestleMania, right?

01:10:48.336 --> 01:10:48.957
[SPEAKER_00]: Go for it.

01:10:49.392 --> 01:10:54.960
[SPEAKER_00]: The, there was one match Steve Austin was doing, you can probably figure out which one I think was ex-7 or whatever.

01:10:55.020 --> 01:10:58.325
[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, the point being, Vince McMahon was at ringside for it.

01:10:58.745 --> 01:11:02.931
[SPEAKER_00]: I think all the, there was one where all the McMans were ringside, not the point.

01:11:03.332 --> 01:11:05.855
[SPEAKER_00]: Vince McMahon was at ringside, Steve Austin's wrestling a WrestleMania.

01:11:06.596 --> 01:11:09.921
[SPEAKER_00]: And he talks about how he couldn't hear the damn crowd.

01:11:10.542 --> 01:11:14.728
[SPEAKER_00]: And he, at one point, was getting choked by McMahon, right, they're working on the outside or something.

01:11:15.068 --> 01:11:17.712
[SPEAKER_00]: And he's whispered,

01:11:18.029 --> 01:11:19.599
[SPEAKER_00]: And he, you know, do they hate it?

01:11:20.182 --> 01:11:23.382
[SPEAKER_00]: And Vince is like choking and working and choking, so no, they love it.

01:11:23.800 --> 01:11:24.240
[SPEAKER_00]: They love it.

01:11:24.461 --> 01:11:51.208
[SPEAKER_00]: They're going crazy and he can't hear him can't hear him can't hear him and you know goes through and he's he thought that the match was a little bit off because he just you know you ride the wave of the crowd sometimes the crowd tells you what to do when you reach that level of worker right and afterwards he said I I can't hear anything it's not a normal crowd you do something and any noise kind of feels like it drifts away and it hits you three seconds later.

01:11:51.188 --> 01:12:11.492
[SPEAKER_00]: And that is why WWE has started putting large monitors, speakers around ringside at stadium shows that pipe the crowd noise into the ring, because it actually will through just, you know, you will, they will hear it more like an arena than that.

01:12:11.978 --> 01:12:14.741
[SPEAKER_00]: you know, wave of sound coming later in a stadium.

01:12:15.202 --> 01:12:26.055
[SPEAKER_00]: And so I think you just kind of demonstrated that it does feel and sound different because now the workers kind of they hear it through the speakers and then like a second later there's a as the real noise hits them.

01:12:26.436 --> 01:12:31.923
[SPEAKER_00]: It's kind of an interesting thing to me, but it shows you how different it can be wrestling in a stadium than wrestling in an arena.

01:12:31.963 --> 01:12:37.930
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a very different Chris Jericho has described it as looking out at the crowd and it looks like waves in the ocean.

01:12:38.010 --> 01:12:39.572
[SPEAKER_00]: You can't see

01:12:39.552 --> 01:12:41.254
[SPEAKER_00]: any one thing.

01:12:41.414 --> 01:12:51.687
[SPEAKER_00]: It's just like this kind of a mass that moves together and where as if you're in a arena, even in a arena like a second show hall that holds 10,000, you can look out and see a person.

01:12:52.248 --> 01:12:53.930
[SPEAKER_00]: He says, you almost can't do that at the dome.

01:12:54.030 --> 01:12:59.397
[SPEAKER_00]: There's fog, there's, and it's just so many that it just looks like a of ocean waves.

01:12:59.677 --> 01:13:01.780
[SPEAKER_00]: And he said it's disorienting sometimes.

01:13:02.063 --> 01:13:08.716
[SPEAKER_01]: So for frame reference, this is going to be really entertaining for the audio crowd, but I'm going to throw up some picture here, and we'll do some descriptions.

01:13:08.917 --> 01:13:17.794
[SPEAKER_01]: I had a clear line of sight to the ring, but to my left of me was the ramp, and there are about three or four rows that were in front of me there.

01:13:17.774 --> 01:13:18.956
[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to go with it here.

01:13:19.077 --> 01:13:22.383
[SPEAKER_01]: So there's got a picture of Takeshita coming down to the ring.

01:13:22.423 --> 01:13:31.100
[SPEAKER_01]: I've got my line of sight of Yoda Fuji holding both the global title and the IWGP world heavyweight title.

01:13:31.862 --> 01:13:37.032
[SPEAKER_01]: We've got O'Connor walking past me on the ramp.

01:13:37.012 --> 01:14:01.982
[SPEAKER_01]: Got Ocada and Tonahashi in the line of sight facing the ring when they were off doing the DDT off of the Rinkside barricade and then a shock of Tonahashi doing his high fly flow off of the top of the turnbuckle onto the onto the ground with Ocada catching him like a ball.

01:14:02.563 --> 01:14:03.684
[SPEAKER_00]: The ace is high.

01:14:03.704 --> 01:14:04.605
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, there you go.

01:14:04.585 --> 01:14:16.498
[SPEAKER_01]: And then I got a, a caught in Tonahashi fighting on the ring, fighting on the ramp before the count out and off to the right is the look on Ocada face after the match is over.

01:14:16.699 --> 01:14:18.461
[SPEAKER_01]: And I caught the holy shit.

01:14:18.481 --> 01:14:19.862
[SPEAKER_01]: We fucking pulled that one off.

01:14:19.982 --> 01:14:21.884
[SPEAKER_01]: Look up.

01:14:21.904 --> 01:14:23.566
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, a little bit of that in there.

01:14:23.626 --> 01:14:26.650
[SPEAKER_00]: It's just like, man, that went so much better than I thought it was going to.

01:14:26.810 --> 01:14:27.270
[SPEAKER_00]: We did it.

01:14:27.671 --> 01:14:28.652
[SPEAKER_00]: We fucking did it.

01:14:30.067 --> 01:14:31.189
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's interesting here.

01:14:31.209 --> 01:14:32.131
[SPEAKER_00]: We had Nick brings it up.

01:14:32.171 --> 01:14:36.658
[SPEAKER_00]: But it's on how she's hair, you know, flying through the air is what kind of punches him.

01:14:36.979 --> 01:14:37.700
[SPEAKER_00]: But it's on us.

01:14:37.740 --> 01:14:38.802
[SPEAKER_00]: He's getting a haircut this week.

01:14:39.103 --> 01:14:43.130
[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to see John partying the front, dipping into the back and what I heard.

01:14:44.011 --> 01:14:44.572
[SPEAKER_00]: Hi.

01:14:44.592 --> 01:14:45.574
[SPEAKER_00]: Going full mullet on us.

01:14:46.315 --> 01:14:46.816
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

01:14:46.836 --> 01:14:49.681
[SPEAKER_01]: So there's first bullet, reverse mullet.

01:14:49.701 --> 01:14:51.104
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, no, let's not do that.

01:14:51.124 --> 01:14:52.446
[SPEAKER_00]: OK. Jeremy.

01:14:52.426 --> 01:14:54.830
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, before we move on to what's coming up ahead.

01:14:54.870 --> 01:14:56.473
[SPEAKER_00]: And there's a lot of stuff that's coming up ahead.

01:14:56.573 --> 01:15:02.122
[SPEAKER_00]: But tell us a little bit about the podcast summit you met up with some of our colleagues in Tokyo.

01:15:02.142 --> 01:15:02.943
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, sir.

01:15:03.024 --> 01:15:05.848
[SPEAKER_01]: So we are we had the hub British pub.

01:15:05.888 --> 01:15:16.085
[SPEAKER_01]: And this is a showing the turnout, which was a number of podcasts from and famed from Super J cast keep it a strong style.

01:15:16.125 --> 01:15:18.349
[SPEAKER_01]: We weren't stiff and.

01:15:18.329 --> 01:15:23.876
[SPEAKER_01]: our podcast because drugs that we did back to have a few people who said, yeah, we're here for that show.

01:15:23.936 --> 01:15:27.320
[SPEAKER_01]: So shout out to Lisa and Jake and how cool.

01:15:28.801 --> 01:15:32.385
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it was very, it was very cool and very gratifying to see that.

01:15:32.746 --> 01:15:36.410
[SPEAKER_01]: And this right here is the group of people.

01:15:37.331 --> 01:15:41.756
[SPEAKER_01]: We got Floyd and we got Josh off to the left.

01:15:41.777 --> 01:15:44.239
[SPEAKER_01]: They are with the social super network.

01:15:44.760 --> 01:15:48.184
[SPEAKER_01]: Josh on the other side of Josh,

01:15:48.164 --> 01:15:54.896
[SPEAKER_01]: It was a Jeremy, and the pink shirt in the front is Joel from SuperJacast.

01:15:54.916 --> 01:15:57.000
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm in the back doing the Okada pose.

01:15:58.042 --> 01:16:05.015
[SPEAKER_01]: Josh from WeWorksDiff is off to the right, and I think that guy's name is Brian.

01:16:05.516 --> 01:16:09.463
[SPEAKER_01]: That just happened to be in the picture, but both that trip on caster.

01:16:10.642 --> 01:16:11.243
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

01:16:11.543 --> 01:16:13.646
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm a good time head by all the way.

01:16:13.666 --> 01:16:16.590
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I think everyone was very happy to be there.

01:16:16.610 --> 01:16:18.252
[SPEAKER_01]: I think everyone had a great time.

01:16:19.714 --> 01:16:22.378
[SPEAKER_01]: People were able to eat, congregate, kind of talk to people.

01:16:22.398 --> 01:16:32.791
[SPEAKER_01]: I actually ran into a listener by the name of Van Damage to give me a, give me a, a zeme that he had drawn with all the things restricting them.

01:16:33.072 --> 01:16:34.474
[SPEAKER_01]: But here's the interesting day to see.

01:16:34.494 --> 01:16:39.400
[SPEAKER_01]: Then yeah, we lived in the same town at the same time during the pandemic.

01:16:39.633 --> 01:16:40.494
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh no kidding.

01:16:40.674 --> 01:16:41.596
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, no idea.

01:16:41.936 --> 01:16:43.638
[SPEAKER_01]: We shopped at the same comic book store.

01:16:44.179 --> 01:16:44.460
[UNKNOWN]: What?

01:16:45.120 --> 01:16:45.501
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:16:45.521 --> 01:16:46.542
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, you're under you.

01:16:46.562 --> 01:16:47.043
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:16:47.063 --> 01:16:47.303
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:16:47.343 --> 01:16:47.524
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:16:47.544 --> 01:16:47.944
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:16:47.984 --> 01:16:48.305
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:16:48.325 --> 01:16:51.749
[SPEAKER_01]: I shout that one out because that was an exceptionally cool poll.

01:16:51.870 --> 01:16:54.773
[SPEAKER_01]: And he was an exceptionally cool individual.

01:16:54.974 --> 01:16:58.639
[SPEAKER_01]: And I needed to make sure I gave him his props.

01:16:58.719 --> 01:17:00.501
[SPEAKER_01]: And that one met a lot to me.

01:17:00.561 --> 01:17:02.464
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, that's a really cool one.

01:17:02.524 --> 01:17:03.345
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

01:17:03.325 --> 01:17:07.210
[SPEAKER_00]: So, all right, so moving ahead, we're going to look at what's coming up forward here.

01:17:07.230 --> 01:17:08.712
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, we mentioned the online cup.

01:17:08.792 --> 01:17:12.317
[SPEAKER_00]: This will be the first is 2019, which is one by Carl Fredrick.

01:17:12.337 --> 01:17:20.688
[SPEAKER_00]: So, the online cup will be starting on January 19th, and it will be part of the road to new beginning tour.

01:17:20.908 --> 01:17:28.779
[SPEAKER_00]: So, we have a bracket, and the two senior ones, Shomekato, who's been asking for this for months, and Katsuya, Marashima, they have first round buys.

01:17:28.859 --> 01:17:32.944
[SPEAKER_00]: There are six young

01:17:32.924 --> 01:17:33.305
[SPEAKER_00]: brackets.

01:17:33.325 --> 01:17:40.136
[SPEAKER_00]: So we have buys for Kato and Marashima, and then we'll have Nestor Yasada against Tetsuya Matsumoto.

01:17:40.897 --> 01:17:44.783
[SPEAKER_00]: And then we will have Dikina Gai versus Zane J in the first round.

01:17:45.084 --> 01:17:50.352
[SPEAKER_00]: And so winners of those two matches will face Kato and Marashima.

01:17:50.493 --> 01:17:51.454
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's what's going to happen.

01:17:51.474 --> 01:17:53.478
[SPEAKER_01]: They're going to win the 10 whole days.

01:17:53.498 --> 01:17:55.000
[SPEAKER_01]: Do you see the finale of this one?

01:17:55.199 --> 01:17:59.628
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so the first and second rounds will be at Coracle in Hall.

01:17:59.648 --> 01:18:01.833
[SPEAKER_00]: They're doing consecutive days of Coracle in Hall later this month.

01:18:01.853 --> 01:18:04.538
[SPEAKER_00]: Of course, we're going to preview all this as these shows come up.

01:18:05.039 --> 01:18:07.625
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't think we have any shows to watch before next week's show.

01:18:07.645 --> 01:18:09.208
[SPEAKER_01]: So we got plenty of shows to preview.

01:18:09.442 --> 01:18:09.983
[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.

01:18:10.003 --> 01:18:11.304
[SPEAKER_00]: We'll be previewing all that.

01:18:11.344 --> 01:18:14.227
[SPEAKER_00]: And then it ends on February 1st, also in Corican Hall.

01:18:14.467 --> 01:18:16.129
[SPEAKER_00]: So there are running Corican a lot.

01:18:16.229 --> 01:18:17.430
[SPEAKER_00]: Everyone's running Corican a lot.

01:18:17.450 --> 01:18:19.452
[SPEAKER_00]: There's a couple of start-ups shows, the Murray Gold Show.

01:18:19.472 --> 01:18:20.213
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:18:20.233 --> 01:18:39.212
[SPEAKER_00]: There's a lot of Corican Hall apps and usually the companies leave Tokyo for a while after this after the kingdom and and dash time just as everybody gave everybody runs Tokyo that week and then everybody leaves Tokyo for the rest of the month this year.

01:18:39.192 --> 01:18:39.632
[SPEAKER_00]: part.

01:18:39.813 --> 01:18:41.014
[SPEAKER_00]: So all right.

01:18:41.034 --> 01:18:41.974
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's a young lion cup.

01:18:41.994 --> 01:18:46.278
[SPEAKER_00]: Now our next show is not the new lion cup.

01:18:46.298 --> 01:18:49.601
[SPEAKER_00]: It is actually blue justice on January 18th.

01:18:50.222 --> 01:18:57.588
[SPEAKER_00]: And this is of course the show that Eugene Megata promotes in his hometown of Chiba, which is Tokyo with Jason.

01:18:57.668 --> 01:19:01.111
[SPEAKER_00]: In fact, one of the Tokyo metro airports is in Chiba.

01:19:01.131 --> 01:19:04.794
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's a train right away of 40 minutes away from downtown Tokyo.

01:19:05.235 --> 01:19:08.878
[SPEAKER_00]: Whatever downtown

01:19:08.858 --> 01:19:12.667
[SPEAKER_00]: Have you ever, generally, the size of that city is just staggering, isn't it?

01:19:13.529 --> 01:19:18.661
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, it's massive in a way that you really are not prepared for a look to get there.

01:19:18.681 --> 01:19:22.750
[SPEAKER_00]: It just keeps going and then that's, uh, it's a good brawl.

01:19:22.951 --> 01:19:25.737
[SPEAKER_01]: Anything is an efficient brawl.

01:19:26.105 --> 01:19:27.407
[SPEAKER_00]: it's incredibly efficient.

01:19:27.447 --> 01:19:29.751
[SPEAKER_00]: It's amazing the way people get around it so easily.

01:19:29.791 --> 01:19:30.593
[SPEAKER_00]: It's absolutely amazing.

01:19:30.633 --> 01:19:32.696
[SPEAKER_00]: The Yamano Day line, blessed.

01:19:33.518 --> 01:19:37.705
[SPEAKER_00]: So this is a hometown show in Incheba, Blue Justice, number 17.

01:19:37.725 --> 01:19:48.163
[SPEAKER_00]: The most of the preview tags was a unbound company's first show as an official faction and the main event will be Eugene DeGotta, Aaron Wolfe.

01:19:48.633 --> 01:19:53.800
[SPEAKER_00]: Torriano and Bolton against evil, Renderita, Yujero and Dick Togo.

01:19:54.160 --> 01:19:56.323
[SPEAKER_00]: So that'll be the main event there.

01:19:56.343 --> 01:20:02.912
[SPEAKER_00]: So hopefully they're coming up with a couple of things that Wolf can do that'll look impressive while he continues to train to be a full-time wrestler.

01:20:02.932 --> 01:20:04.574
[SPEAKER_00]: But he is working these road two shows.

01:20:04.594 --> 01:20:07.619
[SPEAKER_00]: January 19th of Corrican, I mentioned the young wine cup.

01:20:07.639 --> 01:20:13.206
[SPEAKER_00]: He'll also be seeing Bishop on a Bolton challenge for the never-openweight six-man titles against Zack.

01:20:13.726 --> 01:20:14.588
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, we will.

01:20:14.608 --> 01:20:16.011
[SPEAKER_00]: And heartly Jackson.

01:20:16.031 --> 01:20:17.233
[SPEAKER_00]: So that should be a terrific match.

01:20:17.313 --> 01:20:21.321
[SPEAKER_00]: Really if you look at this six people involved, heartly's first title defense.

01:20:21.341 --> 01:20:22.263
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm looking forward to that one.

01:20:22.844 --> 01:20:31.261
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we're all going to get that Tai Chi as she versus you and showed a match that should have a little bit of steam on that as well.

01:20:32.163 --> 01:20:35.650
[SPEAKER_01]: I've got to make it to the not insignificant card.

01:20:36.085 --> 01:20:39.689
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and then on the 20th dokey, that's junior heavyweight night on the 20th.

01:20:39.809 --> 01:20:47.176
[SPEAKER_00]: So second night, we get the second round of the cup, but we also get dokey defending the junior heavyweight title against Despect, okay, eagles and food.

01:20:47.196 --> 01:20:50.620
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, we'll defend the junior tag team titles against kind of Maro and show.

01:20:50.960 --> 01:21:00.810
[SPEAKER_00]: The other thing, by the way, Jeremy, I noticed part of Dash on the side, because we also have matches I want to mention for New Beginning in Osaka, but Beishaman and Bolton.

01:21:01.297 --> 01:21:02.138
[SPEAKER_00]: team 150.

01:21:02.418 --> 01:21:11.489
[SPEAKER_00]: There are a couple of other groups that are not pairing up, but are trioing up, right?

01:21:12.290 --> 01:21:13.612
[SPEAKER_00]: A group of six-man attacks.

01:21:14.052 --> 01:21:26.227
[SPEAKER_00]: To me, that can get that championship out of that morass of House of Torture, where House of Torture was either the champion or the challenger over and over and over again in 2025, because they just seem to be out of ideas.

01:21:26.327 --> 01:21:29.751
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, now they seem to be

01:21:29.731 --> 01:21:38.048
[SPEAKER_00]: man tag alliances and a little variety, non-house of torture specific, they can challenge once in a while.

01:21:38.108 --> 01:21:39.752
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't have any problem with that.

01:21:40.052 --> 01:21:50.093
[SPEAKER_00]: Some of those combinations would be quite good, but it's nice to have a little bit of fresh air where the idea of a hauntie team going after it, a couple of different hauntie teams going after it.

01:21:50.534 --> 01:21:51.115
[SPEAKER_00]: And

01:21:51.095 --> 01:21:56.163
[SPEAKER_00]: I like this, TMDK taking it seriously with by having Zach and Hartley in there.

01:21:56.463 --> 01:22:20.359
[SPEAKER_00]: This can be a dynamic championship that can be part of good cards, maybe not the consistent headlining type of title, but put it on good people like it they did when it was O'Cotta Tanahashi and Ishii or when it was with, what was it, Ishii when he was with Goto and Yoshihashi and thanks, put it on good wrestlers having good matches and people start hearing about this thing.

01:22:20.339 --> 01:22:20.900
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm with you.

01:22:20.920 --> 01:22:31.214
[SPEAKER_01]: I have every opportunity to do something meaningful with these titles and not just use it as a prop for singles or tag titles and you've done for the most part in the last couple of years.

01:22:32.997 --> 01:22:40.187
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a lot of people in the roster and they're going to mouth to feed and they could kind of use it a little bit more thoughtfully.

01:22:40.538 --> 01:22:41.600
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, absolutely agree.

01:22:41.760 --> 01:22:47.390
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that again, cautious optimism, let's see how they book, let's see how they book.

01:22:47.991 --> 01:22:51.618
[SPEAKER_00]: But cautious optimism in some of the directions they're taking coming out of this.

01:22:52.039 --> 01:22:56.988
[SPEAKER_00]: We do have a couple of matches for new beginning in Osaka that's coming up in February.

01:22:57.048 --> 01:23:00.454
[SPEAKER_00]: Aaron Wolf against Narita, I mentioned for the never open way title.

01:23:00.434 --> 01:23:04.079
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm assuming Yota Sushi is told, Jake Lee, I'm not defending against you.

01:23:04.359 --> 01:23:05.400
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think that's going to last.

01:23:05.841 --> 01:23:09.666
[SPEAKER_00]: I think Lee's going to fry his chops enough that he's going to have to put that title online there.

01:23:09.946 --> 01:23:11.328
[SPEAKER_00]: They need a main event for Osaka.

01:23:11.788 --> 01:23:15.493
[SPEAKER_00]: And then we're also going to get the knockout brothers versus the winner of that contenders match.

01:23:15.513 --> 01:23:24.805
[SPEAKER_00]: So whether it's Tahine, Eishi, or it's Umino, and Umora, we're going to see the winner of that match,

01:23:25.257 --> 01:23:33.066
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we might have some twists and turns with who challenges for what we're, but I think I'm generally agreeing with you and where everything's tracking.

01:23:33.126 --> 01:23:37.751
[SPEAKER_00]: Nick is asking, do we think someone will replace Sonata in-house of torture?

01:23:37.831 --> 01:23:42.696
[SPEAKER_00]: The number three heavyweight in the faction leaving, especially domestic, is not insignificant.

01:23:43.137 --> 01:23:49.264
[SPEAKER_00]: So sometimes I feel like there are enough people in-house of torture that they can get away with it.

01:23:49.344 --> 01:23:51.847
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if they need to add a new member of what you're thoughts on.

01:23:51.887 --> 01:23:53.188
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I'm fine.

01:23:53.962 --> 01:23:55.603
[SPEAKER_00]: You think, finally, it'll just be the number one.

01:23:55.623 --> 01:23:56.905
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you got ran, you got evil.

01:23:56.945 --> 01:24:23.968
[SPEAKER_01]: You got, following that, that's a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a

01:24:23.948 --> 01:24:24.729
[SPEAKER_01]: or maybe five.

01:24:26.012 --> 01:24:27.614
[SPEAKER_00]: Especially once his injury really took hold.

01:24:27.995 --> 01:24:29.217
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, what's the only got there?

01:24:29.257 --> 01:24:31.842
[SPEAKER_01]: They weed on Folley way more than they did up.

01:24:32.082 --> 01:24:34.286
[SPEAKER_01]: They wait don't stop.

01:24:34.306 --> 01:24:34.927
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:24:34.947 --> 01:24:39.455
[SPEAKER_00]: And Folley, of course, wasn't around for quite a long time, but he seems to be back in a big way now.

01:24:39.676 --> 01:24:42.300
[SPEAKER_00]: So that, that'll, yeah, I think that could be it.

01:24:42.400 --> 01:24:43.342
[SPEAKER_00]: There where it could be Folley.

01:24:43.663 --> 01:24:48.471
[SPEAKER_00]: And Nick is saying that he fears the Jake will pin Suji on this tour probably will.

01:24:48.586 --> 01:24:57.258
[SPEAKER_00]: Could be, I would suggest to New Japan have it be more post match beat down rather than have your champion be pinned.

01:24:57.819 --> 01:25:03.026
[SPEAKER_00]: I am going, I am going to advocate for being overprotective of Suji to make sure everyone knows he's looking.

01:25:03.046 --> 01:25:14.863
[SPEAKER_01]: If Suji keeps doing stuff, I slap the shit out of Jake Lee the way he did on that match and Jake Lee fell down because he was hit so hard, like Yoda Suji's gonna be just fine.

01:25:16.075 --> 01:25:23.304
[SPEAKER_00]: I still think you didn't just don't pin him much don't if you're going to beat him don't beat him much They need fans to believe in him.

01:25:23.845 --> 01:25:25.487
[SPEAKER_00]: They need someone they can believe him.

01:25:25.527 --> 01:25:41.728
[SPEAKER_01]: They've got to be a So even if it's just people often you have space it'll pit people off if he loses the global title on a shitty way But if you can see used to win the IWGP matches Dominantly that will get him more over than holding any baby and smiling

01:25:42.991 --> 01:25:48.217
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and Brad mentioned some new lines that they viewed at New Year's Dash, they're from the Falle Dojo.

01:25:48.798 --> 01:25:53.764
[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't think they've had a match yet, but they have, they've been right.

01:25:53.784 --> 01:25:55.025
[SPEAKER_00]: You saw them around Ringside Jeremy.

01:25:55.045 --> 01:25:58.970
[SPEAKER_00]: There were a lot of bald heads that we haven't seen before in that area.

01:25:58.990 --> 01:26:04.536
[SPEAKER_00]: So it looks like couple of some more tongons, some other guys from who knows where.

01:26:04.556 --> 01:26:06.398
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, Oscar went to New Zealand.

01:26:06.739 --> 01:26:08.521
[SPEAKER_00]: That's how he and I met up.

01:26:08.541 --> 01:26:10.443
[SPEAKER_00]: So he has people from all over the world there.

01:26:10.583 --> 01:26:12.846
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, it's something

01:26:14.311 --> 01:26:15.954
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:26:15.974 --> 01:26:17.296
[SPEAKER_00]: We'll probably be seeing some notes.

01:26:17.497 --> 01:26:27.635
[SPEAKER_00]: The other thing is, I want to mention that the last new Japan Young Lions Cup, Karl Frederick's one, it had LA Dojo versus No Gay Dojo kind of theme to it.

01:26:28.556 --> 01:26:32.944
[SPEAKER_00]: And it was showed to Umano and Ren Narita's,

01:26:32.924 --> 01:26:36.990
[SPEAKER_00]: Last, young lion gas before they went off on their excursions.

01:26:37.010 --> 01:26:39.013
[SPEAKER_00]: Like Umano kind of left for England after that.

01:26:39.714 --> 01:26:47.345
[SPEAKER_00]: And Narita ended up staying in LA, of course, and working on a JPW strong and all that stuff with Shabbada and blah, blah, blah, blah.

01:26:47.365 --> 01:26:52.693
[SPEAKER_00]: But it seems that Marashima and Shoma are ready to take the next step anyway.

01:26:52.713 --> 01:26:57.560
[SPEAKER_00]: So I think it's one of those things where, yeah, the two senior young lions will probably move on after this.

01:26:57.640 --> 01:27:02.627
[SPEAKER_00]: And that maybe we can get some of these guys in the ring

01:27:02.607 --> 01:27:05.791
[SPEAKER_00]: Matsumoto, I think, is really talented up up a little bit.

01:27:05.931 --> 01:27:07.674
[SPEAKER_00]: Zeng J, important to remember.

01:27:07.754 --> 01:27:10.437
[SPEAKER_00]: Zeng J worked for years before he joined the No Gay Dojo.

01:27:10.858 --> 01:27:13.822
[SPEAKER_00]: He was not starting from scratch the way a lot of guys do.

01:27:13.842 --> 01:27:20.070
[SPEAKER_00]: Of course, he shaved his head, black Johnson, and he seems to have bought into the whole system 100% which is great.

01:27:20.711 --> 01:27:29.222
[SPEAKER_00]: But he is further ahead than most, just because he has just a lot more matches under his belt than a lot of young lions have before they joined the system.

01:27:29.371 --> 01:27:37.819
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, um, I just kind of think Marash was going to win this thing and either is going to go on excursion or one of the, um, one of the factions is going to bring a bit.

01:27:38.120 --> 01:27:43.004
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I mean, it's just kind of one of those, like, what, what's the end game on this thing?

01:27:43.245 --> 01:27:59.040
[SPEAKER_01]: I know at least one or two of them are ready, you know, and as soon as they have, like two or three of them ready, they're just going to bring four more in and we're just going to be right back to like the

01:27:59.915 --> 01:28:03.201
[SPEAKER_00]: And Brad says, let's get moving on my guy out of being a young lion.

01:28:03.221 --> 01:28:05.024
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't think he's going to be a young lion.

01:28:05.084 --> 01:28:05.865
[SPEAKER_00]: A whole lot longer.

01:28:05.926 --> 01:28:10.734
[SPEAKER_00]: I think he's more on the food you to track, where he's just going to hop into a faction and join up.

01:28:11.115 --> 01:28:11.656
[SPEAKER_00]: Yep, you can.

01:28:12.537 --> 01:28:14.160
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, the thing with Cato.

01:28:14.832 --> 01:28:15.954
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I don't know.

01:28:15.974 --> 01:28:17.438
[SPEAKER_00]: He is set over and over again.

01:28:17.458 --> 01:28:18.380
[SPEAKER_00]: He wants to go to Mexico.

01:28:18.400 --> 01:28:19.302
[SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't mean necessarily.

01:28:19.322 --> 01:28:21.045
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I don't know what the financials are on this.

01:28:21.085 --> 01:28:24.232
[SPEAKER_00]: They haven't sent anybody on excursion since Ice and Oscar.

01:28:24.834 --> 01:28:28.101
[SPEAKER_00]: So it might be time, though, El Camoras over there.

01:28:28.141 --> 01:28:34.815
[SPEAKER_00]: There's another Japanese wrestler in CMO whose name is not jumping into my head at the moment, but he's not a New Japan guy.

01:28:34.795 --> 01:28:39.241
[SPEAKER_00]: he's he's from Japan, but he's not a dojo guy over there on excursion.

01:28:39.861 --> 01:28:42.204
[SPEAKER_00]: Of course, mentioned, Oklahoma is always over there.

01:28:42.224 --> 01:28:44.087
[SPEAKER_00]: He'll be over here for fantastic Amania.

01:28:44.567 --> 01:28:50.855
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's entirely possible to show him a kato for instance, works that fantastic Amania tour.

01:28:51.496 --> 01:28:55.601
[SPEAKER_00]: And then he and Oklahoma are a flyback to Mexico together.

01:28:55.621 --> 01:28:58.204
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not ruling anything out.

01:28:58.420 --> 01:29:02.165
[SPEAKER_01]: Like I said, 20, 20 cents is going to come at us fast.

01:29:02.545 --> 01:29:05.910
[SPEAKER_01]: They're going to be saying where we get notification from this company.

01:29:06.250 --> 01:29:07.712
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, oh, they're doing what?

01:29:07.973 --> 01:29:08.714
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

01:29:08.974 --> 01:29:09.495
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?

01:29:09.595 --> 01:29:26.537
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just gonna be that kind of reactive year in which whatever ground the company is laying it is going to be on us to kind of translate it as it's happening

01:29:26.787 --> 01:29:35.906
[SPEAKER_01]: all the, all the safety nets, everything that they used to rely on, the, the wrestlers that they had, like, they're figuring out the new guys and they're taking chances.

01:29:36.708 --> 01:29:47.310
[SPEAKER_01]: And some of the things that we're seeing with Shota and you, yeah, and Yoda may seem like it's not being planned, but I also think that there is very much.

01:29:47.290 --> 01:29:57.548
[SPEAKER_01]: extent for the companies like no we kind of know we're doing and we're just making sure that if we put this one guy again to all of these others that the reaction is going to be what we think it's going to be.

01:29:58.049 --> 01:30:06.784
[SPEAKER_01]: So show to getting food maybe it has some there maybe there's folks that fight you know you need a bad guy and they don't have a bad guy as that generation.

01:30:07.574 --> 01:30:08.495
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

01:30:08.515 --> 01:30:09.396
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I'll see how it turns out.

01:30:09.416 --> 01:30:12.180
[SPEAKER_00]: And of course, we'll be right here week after week to let you know.

01:30:12.801 --> 01:30:16.105
[SPEAKER_00]: I wanted to mention a couple of other things I've watched this week, but the tail end here.

01:30:17.146 --> 01:30:18.508
[SPEAKER_00]: I watched almost everything this week.

01:30:18.588 --> 01:30:19.289
[SPEAKER_00]: I had such a good time.

01:30:19.409 --> 01:30:25.477
[SPEAKER_00]: My ginger was willing to be a wrestling widow for the weekend and realize that I was just going to be watching shows.

01:30:25.497 --> 01:30:28.401
[SPEAKER_00]: So on the third, by the way, I watched the Mario Old paper view.

01:30:28.381 --> 01:30:29.122
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

01:30:29.142 --> 01:30:29.462
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, man.

01:30:29.502 --> 01:30:30.103
[SPEAKER_00]: This is terrific.

01:30:30.404 --> 01:30:31.625
[SPEAKER_00]: They really, great.

01:30:31.645 --> 01:30:35.550
[SPEAKER_00]: You're my Louis Vuitton and Ebatani and Takumi or Rojas fans.

01:30:35.570 --> 01:30:37.733
[SPEAKER_00]: I, if you have a wrestling universe, subscription.

01:30:37.773 --> 01:30:39.996
[SPEAKER_00]: This will drop on wrestling universe eventually.

01:30:40.236 --> 01:30:43.861
[SPEAKER_00]: It was a paper view, but Victoria, Yuzuki, and Shoko Kashino.

01:30:44.161 --> 01:30:47.165
[SPEAKER_00]: Mikuano, my Sakurai, terrific matches.

01:30:48.427 --> 01:30:50.069
[SPEAKER_00]: Marigold really put together a good show.

01:30:50.209 --> 01:30:51.891
[SPEAKER_00]: It was in

01:30:51.871 --> 01:30:55.415
[SPEAKER_00]: Marigold's show was in Otosini, Jim.

01:30:55.815 --> 01:31:03.724
[SPEAKER_00]: They drew about 1800, which is even with last year, but it's considered a bit of a victory for Marigold fewer guests than last year, Jeremy.

01:31:03.744 --> 01:31:05.065
[SPEAKER_00]: This was more of a Marigold thing.

01:31:05.286 --> 01:31:09.550
[SPEAKER_00]: And I remember talking about Marigold last year when we had Lyric Wrestling on.

01:31:09.570 --> 01:31:14.816
[SPEAKER_00]: I said, one year ago, I said, what Marigold needs to work on is developing that undercard.

01:31:14.836 --> 01:31:21.203
[SPEAKER_00]: They're midcard because they had two types of wrestlers when that company was only a few months old last year.

01:31:21.588 --> 01:31:44.701
[SPEAKER_00]: They either had people that were some of the best in the world, or absolute green is grass, like there was a little crown, and over the last year there's a middle grass, some of those people have awesome and grown in new roles, and now there's depth there besides the main event matches, and up and down the card now there's talent, and there's ridiculous talent in the rookie class in Marigold.

01:31:44.822 --> 01:31:46.444
[SPEAKER_00]: And start them too, for that matter, by the way.

01:31:46.784 --> 01:31:50.650
[SPEAKER_00]: Both very, very fried fried

01:31:51.372 --> 01:31:54.416
[SPEAKER_00]: I watched three age old fan shows over the course.

01:31:54.937 --> 01:31:56.659
[SPEAKER_00]: They have their own streaming service right there.

01:31:56.920 --> 01:32:00.204
[SPEAKER_00]: Kento Miahara and Uma Anzai was fantastic for the triple crown.

01:32:00.885 --> 01:32:05.772
[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't know if you guys remember that June Saito and Goshi Azaki was really, really good.

01:32:06.813 --> 01:32:13.482
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if you remember Jeremy, but obviously Jones and Zion from NXT are over now.

01:32:13.462 --> 01:32:27.022
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and they held the tag team titles for all Japan until they were recently beaten by Tallahus, who's a really tall, really tall wrestler, I believe he's either American or Canadian, and Ren Ayabe, they won that one.

01:32:27.042 --> 01:32:27.743
[SPEAKER_00]: That was pretty decent.

01:32:27.863 --> 01:32:30.327
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, people of animal fat, Ren.

01:32:30.347 --> 01:32:30.727
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

01:32:31.068 --> 01:32:31.749
[SPEAKER_00]: That's a good good.

01:32:31.789 --> 01:32:32.570
[SPEAKER_00]: Sounds like he is.

01:32:32.891 --> 01:32:34.733
[SPEAKER_00]: If not, then they're missing a kind of opportunity.

01:32:34.914 --> 01:32:37.057
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I watched all three of those all Japan shows enjoyed a cool.

01:32:37.177 --> 01:32:39.300
[SPEAKER_00]: TJPW on the fourth.

01:32:40.023 --> 01:33:00.090
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, the princess of princess title mash to end the TJPW pay per view on the fourth again on Russell universe, this one's not a paper for you, you can just pull this up and watch this me watch a nabe and sizume fan freaking fantastic match the final three matches, Mariah and a resumendo and then.

01:33:00.070 --> 01:33:04.243
[SPEAKER_00]: Casasino and I, you know, against Oehara and Camifuku.

01:33:04.283 --> 01:33:07.232
[SPEAKER_00]: I know that we don't get the TJPW too often on this one.

01:33:08.194 --> 01:33:10.722
[SPEAKER_00]: The show anyway, just for time, but.

01:33:11.461 --> 01:33:18.872
[SPEAKER_00]: Man, the main event, and the last three matches the whole, but that main event blew my door soft, that the TJPW just put on a terrific one.

01:33:19.493 --> 01:33:20.215
[SPEAKER_00]: So there you go.

01:33:20.235 --> 01:33:35.238
[SPEAKER_00]: And we talked a little bit about Dream, Quintam, and how great Psychometonians say, or he did a Konami and Saiaida, and then the goddess is a start-up tag team title match for Sturphic, there was a lot of really, really good wrestling last week.

01:33:35.438 --> 01:33:38.683
[SPEAKER_00]: And I do wanna ask before we go here, Jeremy.

01:33:39.912 --> 01:33:44.519
[SPEAKER_00]: What did you think of DDT Live in person for their big show in Corrican Hall on the third?

01:33:45.380 --> 01:33:51.790
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it was pretty gay, but that's what the promotion is, right?

01:33:52.130 --> 01:34:03.507
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just like, you take one of the arms drops off and kind of over your rest of the single, and you're kind of, let your single and hang a little bit that kind of thing.

01:34:03.655 --> 01:34:33.662
[SPEAKER_01]: uh... dead should live in their free flag fly yet and she could do no there was the spot with to catch it up going in his crotch and but i i knew what ddt was when i came into it i was really annoying people were just like oh no no because this is to catch it up coming in and like this is how he's this is what he's doing the night before the rest of you were like yeah he's entertaining the fan to Japan i don't know what to tell you

01:34:33.642 --> 01:34:41.117
[SPEAKER_01]: with that said, you shade in Freud match with Chris Brooks and Tony O'Honda and Tikeshi Barsada.

01:34:41.939 --> 01:34:47.550
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll find the faction broke up after that because I think

01:34:48.526 --> 01:34:59.764
[SPEAKER_01]: Takeshima Sada, well, this is last match in the faction and so there again, we're just going to break up the faction and then really if there was anything worth a damn on the show that you wanted to watch for a work rate.

01:35:00.745 --> 01:35:12.103
[SPEAKER_01]: It was the main event, which was the KOD six man tag you type of match and it was I'm going to read off the name here because I didn't know a damn saying about anyone in this match.

01:35:12.083 --> 01:35:20.271
[SPEAKER_01]: It was 37 Camino, which is Toy, Toy Y, and Yokey, Yuki Leno, and Kaifei, Tekechi.

01:35:20.451 --> 01:35:23.114
[SPEAKER_01]: Kaifei, Tekechi, was the member of rampage.

01:35:23.174 --> 01:35:34.264
[SPEAKER_01]: He was also part of the Shota Umino, and Yumi, or a team at Wrestle Kingdom, and they defeated Kazuma Sumi, strange love connection of canon and mal.

01:35:34.284 --> 01:35:38.108
[SPEAKER_01]: We've seen canon and mal in the past, in New Japan.

01:35:38.088 --> 01:35:43.135
[SPEAKER_01]: This was a fantastic match, a best kind of junior heavyweight kind of match.

01:35:43.256 --> 01:35:48.303
[SPEAKER_01]: You could see all these guys working really, really hard, great work, great chemistry with each other.

01:35:48.343 --> 01:35:54.292
[SPEAKER_01]: And uh, Kassai Tekechi, do you ever commit to like just wrestling on its own?

01:35:54.593 --> 01:35:55.854
[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to be a massive superstar.

01:35:56.275 --> 01:36:06.390
[SPEAKER_01]: He is unbelievably talented, but I can imagine that the uh, recording contract and the uh, concert, it's probably easier on his body and make more.

01:36:06.691 --> 01:36:07.752
[SPEAKER_00]: He's a busy man.

01:36:07.773 --> 01:36:10.456
[SPEAKER_00]: He's a busy man, but he loves wrestling clearly loves wrestling.

01:36:10.937 --> 01:36:17.486
[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, so again, uh, and the Noah show Jeremy Moore is asking about Noah show the Noah show on the first Jeremy attended it.

01:36:18.107 --> 01:36:19.769
[SPEAKER_00]: And the main event was fine.

01:36:20.510 --> 01:36:28.682
[SPEAKER_01]: The night-toe match was awful, uh, semi-main with Omakusa and Haruma was the best match on the card.

01:36:28.662 --> 01:36:29.463
[SPEAKER_01]: five, four.

01:36:29.864 --> 01:36:38.741
[SPEAKER_01]: Everything else after the intermission and distance solely on vibes, you know, the night-o-match in person was not good, but the energy was there for that.

01:36:39.202 --> 01:36:45.072
[SPEAKER_01]: The main event was a lot of stalling with the 15-minute beforehand and then not much on the second half of that match.

01:36:45.593 --> 01:36:50.282
[SPEAKER_01]: Everything kind of being predicated on the team 2000X,

01:36:50.262 --> 01:36:54.047
[SPEAKER_01]: banner of trying to vein and take over the production.

01:36:54.407 --> 01:36:58.733
[SPEAKER_01]: We're working really, really well until they've lost in the main event, so that was kind of a hitch in there to get it up.

01:36:59.314 --> 01:37:00.135
[SPEAKER_01]: The whole thing was fine.

01:37:00.435 --> 01:37:04.781
[SPEAKER_01]: Good brother has seemed to be working really, really hard because it's the only place that'll be paying them right now.

01:37:05.502 --> 01:37:07.665
[SPEAKER_01]: That was basically the conclusion I came to.

01:37:08.025 --> 01:37:12.311
[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, I felt bad for Kenno, who got dropped out in the main event.

01:37:12.612 --> 01:37:19.020
[SPEAKER_01]: I felt bad for Kenno Kiemina,

01:37:19.000 --> 01:37:25.086
[SPEAKER_01]: It was a fine show, and I thought everyone worked hard, but it was not anything special.

01:37:25.847 --> 01:37:30.712
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, the next GAC title defense I believe for Innamura is Kittamia.

01:37:31.092 --> 01:37:31.293
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

01:37:31.553 --> 01:37:38.720
[SPEAKER_00]: And he's the guy that we said he and Ishii are long-lost twins.

01:37:38.740 --> 01:37:44.586
[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to be a big meeting man match because Innamura is being booked if the Japanese stand-hift.

01:37:44.853 --> 01:37:47.818
[SPEAKER_00]: He might be the correct opponent for Indomora.

01:37:48.299 --> 01:37:48.719
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'd be fine.

01:37:48.839 --> 01:37:50.422
[SPEAKER_00]: He might be just right about it.

01:37:50.442 --> 01:37:57.694
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and so Nick sees Nick says that he got wrestling University night, so it sounds like I need to get this miracle to show a shot, haven't dipped my toe much in the show she world.

01:37:57.754 --> 01:37:58.415
[SPEAKER_00]: I would recommend it.

01:37:58.435 --> 01:37:58.876
[SPEAKER_00]: Here's the thing.

01:37:59.256 --> 01:38:01.079
[SPEAKER_00]: You have that wrestle universe thing.

01:38:01.460 --> 01:38:04.064
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like less than $10 US for a month.

01:38:04.866 --> 01:38:07.570
[SPEAKER_00]: Watch that TJPW main event.

01:38:07.550 --> 01:38:10.936
[SPEAKER_00]: You also get the DDT show with that six-man main event.

01:38:10.956 --> 01:38:12.418
[SPEAKER_00]: The Jeremy said it was fantastic.

01:38:13.400 --> 01:38:15.723
[SPEAKER_00]: Russell University says a lot of really, really good stuff.

01:38:15.743 --> 01:38:16.765
[SPEAKER_00]: There's some send-up girls on there.

01:38:16.785 --> 01:38:23.696
[SPEAKER_00]: But between Margo and TJPW, you can catch the Noah stuff DDT, got barricades.

01:38:23.716 --> 01:38:27.242
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, there's some marvelous stuff, although that's inconsistent.

01:38:27.262 --> 01:38:27.803
[SPEAKER_00]: But

01:38:28.289 --> 01:38:31.714
[SPEAKER_00]: You just check it out and just kind of sample the different stuff.

01:38:31.754 --> 01:38:45.235
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a good way to check out Martin Golden TJPW, your introduction to Josie TJPW is an acquired taste, but their title matches, they take very seriously and they have excellent orders.

01:38:45.485 --> 01:38:50.170
[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, it makes sense that the Noah show may have been the most fine show he's seen yet.

01:38:50.750 --> 01:39:08.468
[SPEAKER_00]: And U.S. VA, I says he has started him tomorrow in the 11th, and the recessera retirement show that's well, you has recently retired, why you, you know, the one of the rest of the Sunday, and then recessera retirings, so we're losing a couple of legends, but I think that the future of Josie, when you watch these shows, you realize it's very bright.

01:39:10.931 --> 01:39:11.031
[SPEAKER_00]: Cool.

01:39:11.051 --> 01:39:11.351
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

01:39:11.451 --> 01:39:13.153
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I think we covered everything, gosh.

01:39:13.173 --> 01:39:14.074
[SPEAKER_00]: That was a lot.

01:39:15.134 --> 01:39:16.316
[SPEAKER_01]: Fact it all in there, buddy.

01:39:16.837 --> 01:39:19.602
[SPEAKER_01]: Got any questions or comments to knock out?

01:39:19.622 --> 01:39:20.183
[SPEAKER_00]: No, that's fine.

01:39:20.203 --> 01:39:26.935
[SPEAKER_00]: And just, you know, you can always get to me if you need to, you can email me at ringsidereplay at Gmail.

01:39:27.035 --> 01:39:30.802
[SPEAKER_01]: Speaking of drug style, gmail.com actually is a real email address.

01:39:31.544 --> 01:39:32.064
[SPEAKER_00]: It is real.

01:39:32.085 --> 01:39:32.986
[SPEAKER_01]: I never told people that.

01:39:33.146 --> 01:39:33.888
[SPEAKER_01]: I probably should.

01:39:34.409 --> 01:39:37.935
[SPEAKER_01]: Speaking of drug style at gmail.com is real.

01:39:37.915 --> 01:39:38.476
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

01:39:38.936 --> 01:39:41.920
[SPEAKER_00]: So I just want to say thanks for everybody who has joined us live.

01:39:42.261 --> 01:39:50.853
[SPEAKER_00]: We will be back next week and we will be previewing the upcoming action as the road to new beginning with cautious optimism gets underway.

01:39:50.873 --> 01:39:52.054
[SPEAKER_00]: We're headed toward Blue Justice.

01:39:52.074 --> 01:39:58.643
[SPEAKER_00]: So again, if you're listening to us later as a podcast or here on YouTube, thank you for everyone who joined us here live.

01:39:58.823 --> 01:40:00.426
[SPEAKER_00]: Really appreciate you love the interaction.

01:40:00.766 --> 01:40:02.549
[SPEAKER_00]: For Jeremy Feinstein, I'm Stephen Conway.

01:40:02.709 --> 01:40:05.813
[SPEAKER_00]: This has been Speaking of