NJPW: Wrestle Kingdom 19 Matches & Tanahashi's Final Homecoming Review

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was a very busy week in New Japan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We had the Tana Hashi Homecoming event, Russell Kingdom Announcements, a world tagly line up announced, and Super Junior Tag League ended with a bang in Osaka's.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We got the two best matches of the tournament, and one of the best tag matches we've had all year on the final day.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we've had some great action, some big announcements, and a show an end-show to preview with an interesting main-to-back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We better get started.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Which every fine stone, I'm Stephen Conway, and this is Speaking of Strong Style.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Welcome everyone to Speaking of Strong Style.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We discussed the news, issues, and events surrounding New Japan, pro wrestling, Jeremy and I are contributors to the fight game media network.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And my guy mentioned a busy and interesting week, Jeremy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I hope you enjoyed it as much as I did, because I had a lot of fun this week, keeping an eye on New Japan, start him head of pay per view.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I thought it was an interesting seven days.

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[SPEAKER_00]: How did you spend him?

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's never other things going on besides wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, it looks pretty vivid in general, but I would really like looking forward to the Tonahashi final homecoming show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was a pretty good show, but it didn't have everything that, you know, it's hoping it would all have.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we had the press conference and.

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[SPEAKER_01]: pretty much confirmed everything that we are already.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then we got World Tag League in the middle of the night on Monday to Tuesday or something like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so, New Japan just started dropping the drop in the bombs of stuff to.

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[SPEAKER_01]: you know, break down and I'm here for it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Are you here for it?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm here for it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's been an interesting week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think there's one more big bomb to go that will probably come either on the Anjo show or shortly after.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And of course, we still don't know time to actually find a little vulnerable.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're getting closer.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We got some clues this week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We got some clues this week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, I mean, I spent how we had Halloween, of course, here at the house.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was last Friday and yeah, I'm in a neighborhood now that has tons of kids.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we just had so many people coming around and that was a lot of fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We've just probably over a hundred kids.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we're passing through over here over the course of the night.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hope you didn't do the full type of chocolate bars then.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I'm not that kind of, I'm not that bougie, unfortunately, but we had we ain't at a lot of candy, a lot of candy, but well worth it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was a good time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Our dog got petted the entire time, he was out there with everybody and he was popular.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Also, it's us, the World Series, of course, is going on fantastic World Series.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Or just looking one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Also, Austin FC, I went to their playoff game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And while Austin FC was eliminated from the MLS playoffs, unfortunately, I did get to see a son hung me play and scored a goal.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so this is a legend from the Premier League Tottenham Hotspur player who has come over to

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[SPEAKER_00]: was really cool Jeremy this he's one of the best South Korean players of all time probably the best and he is on a whole other level athletically in MLS you know that in the Premier League he was starting to get a little bit a little bit old but he could still play but that talent is still not prevalent in the only lord man just this guy just look like a man among boys out there and he had a so many flop on

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[SPEAKER_00]: So many fans out there, South Korean fans waving the flags and being so excited that just to see him, he scored a goal on us, unfortunately, but it was cool that I could say I saw a son score a goal.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then here's what I love about this guy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's so many things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's just one of the nicer guys in sports.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But Austin FC knocked out, that was the end of our run.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're knocked out of the playoffs because of this lost L.A. FC.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So the team did its usual walk around the stadium and applaud the fans and the fans and applaud the team after the whole long season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But Sun understood that a lot of people were there to see him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he hung back and just kind of did interviews on the pitch for a while.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Just talking to some of the people.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He waited until Austin FC was done with their thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we're pretty much just kind of filtering off the pitch.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Ben, he walked around and applauded all the people that were there to see him, let them applaud him, and take pictures of him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Just as a guy, you kind of got it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: you know, he understood that when he goes on the road and plays, there's going to be a contingent of fans that loved him from Tottenham, that love him as South Korean football fans that want to see one of the best South Korean players of all time, he gets it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And to see him do that fan service.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was time to hash you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I used doing everything but wiping his face and tells.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He didn't get close enough for our autographs because I could have turned into a huge mess, but he was very intelligent about it and just a lesson to be learned there as far as taking care of and showing gratitude toward the people that are fans of yours.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I just thought it was really cool to watch.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But there were a lot of time of how she vibes on that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's been going down this final road of how he would go all the way around the building and make sure that everybody saw and got a chance to take a picture of him and he waived to him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Premier League legend in person in the MLS stadium.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'd seen Keelini, who's a Syrian legend for Hoventus and Italy, got to see him also with LFC, who tends to bring in these guys from overseas who want to come away for a year and live the lifestyle.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so what was the next game again?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, son, hang, hang me, son, hang me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, hang me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, son, hang me, and uh, he played for a long time with Spurs played and he and, uh, yeah, he and I don't know if he overlapped with Christian bail, but certainly he and Harry Kane were a devastating one, two punch for Spurs in Tottenham and now he's over and over.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's such an interesting phenomenon that you mentioned where

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[SPEAKER_01]: You have a guy that may not necessarily be the one to close the show and is what the fans want to close the show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so the big star that they're really going to get to see if ever again is the if the one that is at the very end closing the big show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So what a lesson to be learned from that to see.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Nick Reeves is with us by the way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm glad Nick is with us live again this week and he says he's still kicking himself and he didn't get to see Leonardo Messi live either time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Miami came to Kansas City.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, Nick, I understand how you're feeling.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Leonardo Messi and Miami came to Austin the year before Messi came to MLS.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we haven't seen Miami since.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So Austin and Miami are in different conferences and you don't always, you don't play everybody in the league because there are too many teams and all that stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So Austin's in the Western conference, Miami's in the Eastern conference, they haven't visited Austin since Messi's been on the team.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I can't imagine the the fever that would come about if the the greatest of all time ever came to Austin, but I don't know if it's going to happen before your tires.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I do have one more funny story about this past weekend before we get going, okay?

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[SPEAKER_01]: November 1st, you know, a day after Halloween, got to work, kind of busy, planning to watch Saturday night main event with Dave at his house that night, four o'clock on our thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That 11 a.m.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I get a chance for my wife.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, can we go to the storage locker and I look at the date and it's November 1st and I realize, oh, she walked the holiday stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I got to get a cap in today.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So in between everything, I went to the storage locker.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We got all the holidays stuff out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I went to Dave, I came back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She had a tree up all the way in the day.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She put up the artificial tree.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We have an artificial tree, so she put it up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There were a couple of fun kids.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We put it back up together, got it right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then on Sunday, after work, after Dave, I'm back in the storage locker.

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[SPEAKER_01]: putting all the stuff back at storage.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then I'm sitting down and watching the Tana Hashi final OK.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I cannot tell you how much of reward that show was after the

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm impressed you already have the treat you beat Starbucks like Starbucks just put their holiday stuff out today.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like I had my first peppermint moka earlier today.

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[SPEAKER_01]: My wife is motivated on good vibes right now and she's got that holiday stuff up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And bro, if your wife's okay, I wanted to do the holiday stuff, you're not putting that off to Netflix weekend.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, if you're sleeping on the Capitol, we

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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll begin construction on our Christmas village here in a couple of weeks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't see other.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Nick Reeves is here in this leaves right into what we're going to talk about.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Nick says, I spent last week cramming the entire super junior tag league before the geet from show what a tournament to choose to do that with.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that was probably some rough sledding to continue with the holiday and Christmas metaphors.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's some rough sledding there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Nick, I hope you got through it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: OK, I will say this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The last library.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, the eddy on arena show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The eddy on arena show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: the block matches were fantastic.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The last night of action, just the absolutely fantastic night.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So at least it ended well after what we talked about being a creatively lifeless tournament, as far as the booking of it goes and all that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The action wasn't bad.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Until that final night, and it got great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think I saw one of my favorite tag team matches of the year in New Japan during the B block finals there at Eddie Honoreen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I had people going nuts.

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[SPEAKER_01]: My joke is they probably should have had all these shows and libraries because everyone was so checked out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then it's funny that the last say house torture and and crew put on a show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, they did, yeah, they did.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I guess we'll start there because some of that leads into the town of Hashi Homecoming.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But let's talk about what we saw in Osaka at the Eti-Anorena.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So this was, Eti-Anorena, the, it was gym number two in Osaka.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I always wondered, is there a gym number one?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I'm told that we never see gym number one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it was gym number two.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm told that the big room is gym number one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: like the bigger that's that's the number one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then this is the number two.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so it's not like there's the arena and then gym one that we mysterious gym one we never see and then gym number two.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is just a small room there that we see and they drew about 977 which is about what.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Everybody does in Osaka.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So the solid salad crowd that almost filled the place, it had a nice vibe to it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The people were energetic.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Osaka is a more outgoing place than Tokyo anyway, culturally.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're just more gregarious and this crowd seem to be ready for what they were going to see and they got a good show for it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, there's not much point in talking about the prelim stuff underneath that nothing really to speak of there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The block matches though, we had first one was in consequential toward the standings, but it was Yamato and Tiger Mask against Togo and Khan and Maru.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They had stolen Tiger Mask mask the day before in a preview match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Swipe this mask on mask, of course, he was covered up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, Yamato ended up coming out for this match by himself and Tiger joined later, wearing a different mask.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Not much of a pop for Tiger masks big entrance right there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think people are are not seeing him as a, uh, a Ricky Morton type.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's going to make a big comeback.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I guess Robert Gibbs, whoever, but

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[SPEAKER_00]: Nevertheless, a pretty decent match broke out here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yamato ended up going under the ring at one point after some nefarious actions from House of Torture.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He came out with some extra makeup on his face and a more heelish look.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He ended up misting Dictogo and apparently this is a nod to a demon version of him that he uses and dragons gate once in a while, a more heelish version of Yamato and

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[SPEAKER_00]: One of those things where a house of torture just pushed him over the edge and similar to what we saw with

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[SPEAKER_00]: uh... it keeps him dokey so to speak when uh... when he was wrestling against show a study me with him you know this like house a torture is driven him to this uh... ended up missing to go got the win and the story was that yamato and tiger mask finally worked together well their double teams worked they were on the same page they fought fire with fire and in the end the field good story of this germany tiger mask gets the win and his music played at the end of his

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yay!

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[SPEAKER_01]: A small win for a small story that no one would really invest it in because honestly when they lose all these matches and then you're like oh great you won the last but we get you to the music.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean it's the appetizer before like the big wins that you can see later on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was joking when when my girlfriends in the room was a break out the trumpets time for talking about this area like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It did pop it didn't peppy and poppy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, really.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Also, we had after that, Kushita and Yuki Yoshiyoka who were still mathematically involved in the soul thing facing Desperado and Kukai.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This was very good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All four of these guys were on fire in this match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought the Kushita has been a real bright spot in this tournament.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yuki Yoshiyoka is really good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I took a two-pinch A-Locos in a real struggle, but Desperado got the victory and that eliminated Cushita and Yoshioka, meaning the entire block came down to the main event match, but this was athletic, stiff, it was dramatic, and at this point, Jeremy, I wrote in my notes, I said, best match of the tournament so far.

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[SPEAKER_00]: knowing that we were knowing that we were about to see Fujita and Eagles versus Isitimori and Robbie X.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I had a suspicion that it might be surpassed, but I didn't realize to the extent.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But without that Fujita and Eagles Isitimori X matched the to follow, best matched to the tournament.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This was really good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it looked up there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I kind of thought, de-all.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The TMG came out from like night four might have been a little bit better, but okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's just putting hair a little bit but it also with Cushita and Yukio Shoko's a TMDK.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that was a bad.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I don't remember.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Anyways, night four, I remember specifically writing down that that was one of the best matches, but this was also really good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think at this point,

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[SPEAKER_01]: between the commentary and everything, and pretty clear that these guys were supposed to lose to issue Mori and Robbie Ants on the second night of the tournament, and where we only have four, but we'll get to that a little bit more.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought this was a really good match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You sent all of it, look, move on to the next one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and Nick receives mentions.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know Cushita is a veteran, but I could not believe when they said he was 45.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If he's one of those guys, that's a baby face in the literal sense of the word, not just odd.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I got to baby 45 years old.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He looks 28, you know, does he look 30?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think he looks 30.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I should have appeared.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I look dirty.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Baby, baby.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I do not.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I do not.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I do not.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, anyway, that's yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, good genes for Koshita.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Good genes for Koshita.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I stand or go a lot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Stay out of the sun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, so our main event ended at the B-Block finals and comes down to this coast of Fujida and Robbie Eagles against Ishimori and Robbie X.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Certainly the best junior tag team match of the year, perhaps the best tag team match of 2025 in New Japan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Eagles almost died on a Topic on Hilo when he landed awkwardly, but managed to hold on and thank goodness a young line was there to save him from splattering the women in the front row right in front of him, but he looked at he just kind of overrooted.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There was a super kick on Robbie, uh, by Robbie Eagles on Tahie Gishimori, that was an absolute jaw jacker.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, no need for the, no need for the thigh slap on that one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He correct him, but, uh, Ishimori seemed to adjust his jaw a little bit, may have clicked it back in and, uh, kept going.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This was brilliant.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And, um,

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[SPEAKER_00]: The end sequence with all four of these guys countering one another has to be seen to be believed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It certainly can't be effectively described here on a show or a podcast, but this was really fantastic.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Just four guys who are at the top of their game, EGLE's Nishimori both have good submission holes, Ron Miller special in the bone lock.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They were terrific working in and out of those against each other.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I love this and in the antishmoorie beat Robbie Eagles with the bloody cross So ishmoorie an X head to the finals as I just said, please More Robbie X.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This guy is absolutely fantastic.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He fits the style.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He fits the FOS of New Japan More Robbie X and you can give me Titus Yishmoorie all day long.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I this guy is brilliant and

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[SPEAKER_00]: Match was fantastic.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We know what TMDK can do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's one of the best tag teams in the world period.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Ishimori and X improvement that they are absolutely in that league, as far as teamwork, the smoothness, the individual ability, meshed with the double team stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I more this, please, all day long.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's do it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They have the formula of everything great that you need to

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[SPEAKER_01]: high speed, meshing of several different styles, and it all just clicked.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Robbie Eagle, like you said, a fantastic.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He is basically what you talk about as an

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[SPEAKER_01]: you know, people like that you discover and realize like, oh, this guy's really good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they're out there and you have to go and find them and like sift through dozens of not hundred of talent to find guys like this that are just ready for the moment when it comes to them, like Robbie Eagles.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so that's the compliment I want to give to him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to say that Ishimori has been fantastic, veering between baby face and the heel throughout the entire

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[SPEAKER_01]: Robbie Eagles, I feel like I'm going to get a little bit of the short end of the stick.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that he has done a ton of work to help get TMDK junior tag team over.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that better day ahead are there for him, but I think the immediate future, him taking the pin in the match, cleared the way for co-save

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think that may be the direction that we're going after we go through the rest of what happened on the show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it does it does look like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But Robbie is not a selfish guy and you know he understands the situation there and Nick is saying it felt like both the wrestlers and new Japan treated the block final like it was the true finals of the tournament.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I agree with that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that everybody knew whether

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you're more in X we're going to win or Doki and show we're going to win there was going to be a level of house the torture BS to it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was going to take it down a notch.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think this is where X and it's more a new If we are going to tear the house down it needs to be here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to get to that finals match and what they got out of showing Doki which is quite a bit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: quite a bit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But this was special.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, I think that they understood that this is going to be the match that we can really put our stamp on here and turn on the jets they did.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they had an enthusiastic crowd that was loving it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And including Clark counters on English commentary with Walker, who was quite literally, and I know what the word literally means, quite literally out of his seat, you could see him because

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[SPEAKER_00]: of the configuration of the arena, you can see Walker and and Conner's up there in the booth.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, down or in Waldorf in the Muppet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they were absolutely going crazy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they said if it was, it was great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I mean, it was a bullet club.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He had to really sell the bullet club, like, bullet club, or I don't think he was selling.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think he was just piloting for a good, good, good, good, good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I worked in magic.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We worked out just right here.

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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, so that means, oh, a dokey and show attacked afterwards, but they were run off, so that that led to Ishimorian and X against dokey and show at where.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The Tana Hashi homecoming show, which is what we're going to talk about next.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was the very next day.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They had it over to Gifu for a show at the, I want to get this right here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The Gifu Memorial Center, Jim Nazia, and this had an attendance of 3000, 742, a great crowd that almost filled the entire place.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Gifu is an irregular stop for New Japan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There are years where they don't go there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All Japan goes there about once a year, they'll get a startup show here and there, and attendance at some of these shows is in the low hundreds in a much smaller building.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They don't go to the big arena normally.

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[SPEAKER_00]: For Tana Hashi to have this show, this big show, and to draw,

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[SPEAKER_00]: By orders of magnitude more than these companies normally draw is a real compliment.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think to both the feelings toward Tana Hashin is home area and just the general good Will toward him in general that 3,700 when 1,000 is twice the number that would normally be there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They get 3700 for this thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that had to be a morale boost.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The show, the turnout, I think everyone was there for Tana Hachi.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's much as the, the go-to and to get your match clothed it, but yeah, I thought, I thought the turnout was, in fact, good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I agree with you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, I just thought that had to be a nice feeling for everybody involved be out there and that there are more people from Gifu than just Tana Hashie and each of them had their moments.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it opened with a six-man tag.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was a bold, bold, bold, bold, bold, bold of geez.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's Shoma Kato.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Tetsuya Matsumoto.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Again, Scottsu, Marashima, yes, Masatori, Yasuda, and Z&J.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Bolton win this one wins this one with an F5.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There were some more extras after the bell between the young lions.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was a good showcase in Zane J.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Got most of the shine here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He even got Bolton in a Boston crab during the match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Matsumoto, the youngest of the young lions there, really, if you look at it, because Zane J had a lot of experience before he went to the Nogue and Dojo.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Masamoto's fresh out of the gym there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's doing a thing where he has declared himself, a member of the Goto Revolutionary Army, whether Goto wants it or not.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He says Goto hasn't given him an answer yet on whether he can join, but he is just going to throw himself in there and he ended up accompanying Goto and Yoshi Hashi, cornering Goto for the main event.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I go to it did not seem to mind.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that is Matsumoto's side quest.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So to speak, as he's trying to join the Goto Revolutionary Army as he goes through his young lion wrestling days, trying to take the Jose Fujida TMDK route, you know, sort of, I'm just going to join a faction, even if he doesn't want me to.

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[SPEAKER_00]: By God, I'm just going to sit in this corner.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He can't get rid of me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He loves Goto that much.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, getting a little bit of a big head.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Go, don't go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, do you see that?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So from media of him, if the Hollywood star in Tokyo, where it's like a leopard print jacket with sunglasses and door and like a group of women falling over him?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, please.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, get up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not kidding.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure he's kidding.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure he is kidding.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It would, it would something.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, we'll see how that turns out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And if he doesn't need to join our S saying here that issue more he still has the juice.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I agree.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we're lost.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we're going to get into the next one here, which is you key Yoshioka another geefu guy and the kishita.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that team from junior tag league with.

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[SPEAKER_00]: To Gucci and Dragon Daya another team from there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we got a bunch of people in World Tagalog here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Desperate of Kukai, Tiger Mask and Yamato on the other side of the match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So this is just a way to get some of the folks in a post post view rather than a preview, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mentioned the Yoshioka is also from Gifu.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He and Dragon Dia are also the Dragons Gate Tag Team champions.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So here they were on the same side.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we got to see them work together a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they did do some double team spots.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The first time they've done it in New Japan, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And this is a big night for several guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we pretty much had it confirmed without being set officially that Yoshioca was supposed to be an Injamaque here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But he got the spot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he made the most of it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And

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[SPEAKER_00]: Tiger ended up hitting a butterfly suplex from the top again on Taguchi.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he's feeling his wings as he comes down the stretch here a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's going to start doing some classic spots.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He doesn't always do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Taguchi ended up rolling up Tiger Masks for the win.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And a lot of hand shakes in the post match commentary or post match comments saying, you know, let's team up again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I enjoyed it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That type of stuff with Koshita and Yoshiyoka and Dian Taguchi.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Tiger Mask and Yamato and all that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: A lot of mutual respect in this match here, but this is just a final showcase for the Dragon's Gate Boys before they head back home.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I thought it was fun to fund the, uh, Diana and Yoshio go work together.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I get the logistics of not making them a tag team and to support your tag league because they'd have to take some losses and then if you do that, then they're like title ramifications.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Put them up, doesn't matter.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Have fun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: certainly did a lot more here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I felt like it's had some majority of the matches that they were giving me the opportunity to do it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and our as mentioned by the way, they are now the former tag team champions.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Since then, they have lost to 11 piece.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So all that time where they should have been practicing your team and they were working with other people.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So there's a lesson there for all of us, isn't there?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, anyway, there you go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I enjoyed him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like we've talked about before.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I like seeing the guys from Draingate.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought they all did well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We've already seen Diav.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is what the third time because he's one done.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, he's been this is fourth.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's done too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he's done a couple of super junior and a couple of tag leagues now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, yeah, well, can you see how similar like one other time?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think, and Yoshi, okay, I'd be happy to see back there and you know, a cook guy, like I said he didn't blow my doors off the way, maybe don't he did a few years ago or dieted or something like that, but he's a solid worker if he came back it would be fine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'd like to see it that I mean that would be fine with me like I say didn't blow me away, but he might grow into the role It's absolutely fine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There are plenty of people that I thought were and then turned out to be fantastic So that'll be fine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think you got a little bit of the the yippe of the nerve like for you Yeah, you Matthew is in there and kind of took a little bit, but I think If we were to do a report card and sit to bunk, we'd probably be pretty impressed with the guy

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[SPEAKER_00]: And of course you can't post everybody that comes as a guest for you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So Daya and Yoshioka and Yamato need to go back to Dragon Gate and be stars there and maybe we'll we'll see him again.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'd be happy to be a good arrangement DDT Dragon Gate couple of these other like Noah when they're all new Japan.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the best natural co-op of that alliance of wrestling lobbyists that they did, like last year in the year before, you know, altogether, isn't all that stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This just feels more natural.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, you bring a couple of guys in from another federal, like, progeny, and, you know, throw them in there, have a couple of matches, you know, then you get people interested in that progeny.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, a little bit, let's see more of what they got going on over there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's kind of how it should work.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And maybe down the road, they can join up full time before it works out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So half of that, we had a 10 person tag team.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we had an all-escape going here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is a house to torture.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Here we go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Nick Reeves says he enjoyed the recurring motif that every English commentary guess, sang along to Dragon Diaz theme during the tournament.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You kind of end up singing along to that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know anything at the end by the end of it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You can't help yourself.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I catch you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: uh... they mixed it in they did the mash up with the good she's seen you notice that they ended up

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, so next we have this whole thing, the House of Torture, Match, Togo, Evil, Rennerita, Henson, Rennon, a while, Yoshido, Wakana, Maro, and Yuzuro, Takahashi, Ojoi, a facing master, Wato, Shota, Umano, Toriyano, Yo, and Yuya, Wei, Moro, thank goodness this is only six minutes and 18 seconds.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Didn't need to be any longer than that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This, this is, I was cracking up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I started writing down some Walkerisms here, because Walker was struggling with the English language, you get it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, Narita is, back in the ring, he is throwing his head back in the hat.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's for my, that's for Walker.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Walker also said that evil, because he has attacked people in the past, his eyes are on a swivel.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, as, as, what, what is the actual phrase?

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[SPEAKER_00]: His head's on a swivel, because he has to look around like this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Your eyes aren't on the swivel.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Your eyes are in your head.

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[SPEAKER_00]: people are saying is Walker gonna translate some of this because he's working for startup right he's working for startup in the you know at the what's he doing like social media or promotion or whatever the hell it is they said oh we're seeing a translate English to Japanese LIE barely knows English little Japanese that's so bad all right so anyway they seem to be burying both Watto in commentary and in the ring in this match uh

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[SPEAKER_00]: He got pinned in this one by after cheating, of course, his house of torture, but he was pinned on this one by in this one by Dictogo.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, there's a bad year for Wado Stan.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Come here, get a good one, Lord.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they're building to a six man title match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Never open weight six man title match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And isn't there anyone Jeremy other than House of Torture who can challenge for these?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Anyone else, please?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I think they just, they really want you to hate the House of Torture.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I mean, I want you to like, they could win them and they could lose them and I literally do not care.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think that's my point is that I could not remember which team held the bells.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, like it is it all they've held back and forth, but at different variations of which which part of the vaccine has it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the only team that ever seems to challenge for him is House of Torture.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's a, and anyway, after this, evil's about to blast Yano with one of the title belts and all this stuff, no one's caring about this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Aaron Wolf comes in the ring, stops him from doing so, hit a judo throw, kind of, and, uh, had absolutely no motion on his face again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, he collided with robot, picked up the never open way title belt.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This wasn't good either.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it looks like Aaron Wolf's footwork is all out of whack.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like he kind of came in on the ring on the wrong side of him almost stumbled a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: When he hit the judo throw, he sort of stumbled again, didn't have his feet in the right spot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Footwork's very important in wrestling as one of the first things that kind of teaching in class.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I just look at this in between his lack of any facial expressions and

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[SPEAKER_00]: What I saw there as far as throwing a judo throw, which he should be really good at, yes, and still almost stumbling over evil's body in this, I thought, boy, evil's got a lot of heavy lifting to do in the dump.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There is not a lot of time before that match right there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe he'll pull something out of it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is going to be Watson Abbey's greatest challenge.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Seriously, making this guy look good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to be a great accomplishment.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're a great cop, absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, if this match is good, based off the two things we've seen Aaron Wolf do, he gets a good match at this guy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Watch and I'll be able to bring in James.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I have an idea about Aaron Wolf.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Go ahead.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Get him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Show no sunglasses.

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[SPEAKER_01]: OK, good sunglasses on him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Just haven't come in weren't conglasses and haven't knew everything that he's doing while weren't conglasses and he'll look that much cooler because it's just I think you know I think you can almost do I'm gonna go way back here, but big bubble Rogers when he was Jim Cornett's bodyguard like Ray Trayler who became the big boss man and was a terrific character, but it was very very green.

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[SPEAKER_00]: just a big guy who could move well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so they wanted to do something with him, but he was pretty green.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And of course, he was supposed to look like the, the bodyguard badass guy, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So they put him in a, they put him in a hat and sunglasses and had almost no expression.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it worked perfectly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You might be exactly right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Might be exactly what he needs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He just needs a pair of cool shades and just do everything with pair cool shades on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's just like you're off to the races.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you know what I mean, like you cannot forget or read of what he's doing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And if you're not supposed to, that might just be better.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like there's like, let's just cover about you know, like, what him do his like cold emotion was, oh, look like Terminator, like all I'm sure today you're on the Terminator.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You put the sunglasses on at a face doesn't change, but he will destroy you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so I think that might help because as Nick mentioned, so I think they want Wolf to be the strong silent badass, but there's an art to emoting that which he's missing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so far.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And keep in mind to be fair to Aaron Wolf.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Boltonola didn't have that for about the first year of his career, didn't have much emotion and all that now he's got it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now he has it so he can be caught.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You can well you can learn, but that's the thing as the one thing we said is this guy's wooden is hell when he's in there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's he's certainly strong.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Certainly has certainly athletic, but he was wooden and he's not anymore and he's becoming a star.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it can be tough.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It can be tough, but you only have until January 4th for this debut for the love of God.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's the lot of work to do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, I think I think don't get there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll talk to you when you mentioned Bolton now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's a guy that's been really hurt by the air and wolf like focus.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, you know, everything has just been kind of like he's been put off to the side.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I would not be shocked if he is made into like a rival of his and also goes heal at some point because if you have a baby face air wolf, there's almost no need for a baby face bone oil.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a fair point and I absolutely you've been trying to manifest heal both I know you're trying to manifest the bull cook probably going away in 20 20 cents or something like that so that bull what a bull club thing whatever I think that there's something to

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[SPEAKER_01]: turn have a little more patience.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you could even team them up for a little while and have a turn on them if you want to go American with it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, there's there's a lot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I agree with you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: By the way, I think that that would be a really nice match if you can get them to work together and work well together.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That could be a draw.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That could work.

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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, all I could be a great guy to understand, like, having to learn from the bottom up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: While, like, trying to look like you're learning so much at every given point because of the pressure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hmm.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hmm.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's fine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There are a lot of parallels.

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[SPEAKER_00]: A lot of interesting parallels.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Eight man tag match was up next.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is Clark Conner's Oscar, Euto Ice, and Shingo Takagi, one of these things is not like the other.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Facing United Empire, Kellon Newman, Great O'Con, Jacob Austin, Young, and Ten Paladio.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This was about 11 minutes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: uh, interesting beginning to this one, Jeremy, I was into this because Newman interrupted Udo ISIS introduction.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Just got in the way as Udo was doing his usual intro.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't know if you saw this, Jeremy, but they did a great job of making it look like ice and Oscar were legitimately pissed at Newman for interrupting, like watch the way they kind of react to one

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[SPEAKER_00]: either these guys actually got a little steamed off or because I mean, it's he's in Gifu.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like his first big introduction in front of 3700 in Gifu and Newman walked into his way and kind of interrupted his spiel.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like the, you know, the way he is introduced and they got into it with each other and then once the match started, you know kind of blew past Shingo Takagi who had

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[SPEAKER_00]: Newman, well, it is one of those things where everybody in the outside charges in and charges the other corner.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Schingo went after Newman and he you know, just blew right through Schingo.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I got him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they fought up the aisle.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And at one point, he flat out kicked the living hell out of Calum Newman in the face.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And just watch this in the eye.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He kicks him hard in the face.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't know what he's not going for the chest.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And and and at first, I'm sitting

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're acting as better than I had previously given them credit for you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is kind of edgy to watch.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Ice is just so exciting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He ended up winning the match with the running kick to Jacob Austin Young.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There wasn't any other.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not sure the plot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not trying to say that there was a big shoot thing going on here, or something like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I'm just saying that there was an intensity that this that I enjoyed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It seems to be building up to O'Con and Newman.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, we know there are a team in World Tag League that was announced, but there seems to be something brewing there with ice and Oscar and the other thing about it in post match comments, Clark Conner, who has been hinting at it for a long time, really, really sounded like he was done in Japan, just saying seven years here, it's been amazing, but I'm coming home and it does sound like we're going to be minus a clerk.

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[SPEAKER_00]: going forward or at least in the near future.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We will be if that is the case.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you for your service, man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You are a terrific junior in New Japan pro wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We saw him all the way from the L.A. Dojo to the Tokyo Dome.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I enjoyed it like hell if he is going home to be to be with his girl and to be to work in North America.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I wish him the best of luck.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I worry he's going to be a new Tony niece.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that a really talented, smaller guy who gets absolutely no matches whatsoever, but Clark Outters is a fabulous talent.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's been great in New Japan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If this is the end of him, I will miss him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think he has an opportunity in AEW.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's essentially where he's probably going to end up because I'm going home, talking about baby, I'm coming home, that's communicating defecula if people are not aware that they are an item and have been for quite some time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think you're not giving him enough credit calling him another Tony niece.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think he has more intensity than Tony niece.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's more of a shot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's more of a shot at eight of you than it is a clear comment.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think court corners is probably going to be solid midcard level, but you know if they end up doing a new version of bolt club there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The idea of court counters in that faction already make juice Robinson and the gun club look like dork, you know, like his intensity just just elevate whatever faction he hit and

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, if it necessarily fit any of the factions that are already there, so it would be curious how he, he comes in and is acumened there, if that's the case, he's also been the five world champion, so he's got to rip back and see at also he can do that for a while, I think he's more or less probably not in big plans through the end of the year, you know, like this is the last opportunity to

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[SPEAKER_01]: do some backstage columns.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He might be in the Rambo.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He might, you know, be seconding somebody in wrestling kingdom.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But right now, Wardogs don't really have any plans for wrestling kingdom.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Who knows?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to have it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But either way, you know, think, buddy, you've been great court corners.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Wardogs for life.

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[SPEAKER_00]: he really has been great that this thing he and Maloney were a wonderful team he's he's done great stuff otherwise with with really everything they've asked him to do he he's put in a lot of effort he's been putting out good ashes right remember coffee and it yeah oh yeah yeah

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[SPEAKER_00]: Ian Maloney helped sell that Gabe Kid Kenny Omega match at wrestle at dynasty because of their projection of intensity in firing up kid on the outside.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They were a part of what made that match so special too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So even when the focus isn't on him, he always gave a hundred percent.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And everything around him better made things around him better.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Fantastic, go to Matt, really underrated on commentary.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, yeah, we started doing it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You would whatever, like, just kind of in for Jim, but you could kind of tell after a while, you took it seriously and he actually wanted to contribute something to these commentaries because regardless of whatever you think, those are skills that will take you to whatever wrestling company that you are in and make you more valuable.

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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: By the way, the best guest English commentators Penare by Yards, that guy's fantastic on commentary.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I look forward to having you guys that have appointed the author and have to speak to the public on many occasions, is able to communicate clearly and safely.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The point to you on the across.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We, yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, it's also, it's also that he finds things in a match to explain why someone is doing it in a way that makes sense, even when it's weird pro wrestling stuff, you know, we're pro wrestling logic.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He finds a way to explain it, like this is something that you would actually do in a fight because this will pay off later in the match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's so good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's just so good and improving all the time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I hate that he's had this these injury issues and Real asset to New Japan, so I'm looking forward to him being back and then it's over 4,000 months

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[SPEAKER_00]: wants to mention that Newman is showing off his new ruthless side with the knockout brothers to yes absolutely to bounce off is a perfect way to grow to the next level.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they definitely have something in mind for Newman.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're not showing their cards on it just yet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But there's no question that there there is a plan here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's teaming with Great O'Con and World Tag League.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think by the time Russell came and comes around or maybe dash, they're going to show what this Calum Newman means, this new version of him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think any of this is going into business for himself.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think there's a plan for Newman.

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[SPEAKER_01]: United that part kind of feels dead on arrival right now and so they need they need something they need to cat and for the longest time they couldn't find the person willing to come up and just say, hey, I'll be the guy and now Kalam Newman has put up a mask he put in the time he put in the work gotten over a couple of the injuries that he had and so here he's at a point where he's like, yeah, I'll be the guy

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[SPEAKER_01]: But you kind of get the scent from the company that like, you are really low on our priority right now, and no, you're not going into business, but he's trying to make the most out of very little of what he's getting, you know, like trying to get himself and get what he's what is important and value between them on the commentary shows that he was doing like you're really getting an idea of what was the the future of the United Empire.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I hope for better day to head for them, I think 20, 20 cents is probably going to be pretty transformative for that entire faction.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think it's going to be called United Empire in 20, 20 cents if I had to yes, but I think Calonium and if a guy that could mature into a legitimate faction leader and they're trying to get that going now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: After that one, we had the Super Junior Tag League finals and it was House of Torture with Dokey and Show facing the Bull Club War Dogs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right, I have that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I wanna mention one of the things by the way, when we get to the Tag League thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Wow, show to Umano and you way more, of course, agreed to team up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's one more thing for that match earlier.

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[SPEAKER_00]: After that in comments, this is what I wanted to mention.

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[SPEAKER_00]: where he said that we should team up again and we should push each other as both rivals and his friends and then his humtime members to push things forward.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was the least authentic interview I have heard in a New Japan and a long time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I just feel like we are seeing

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think he needs to find a way to work his real personality into his character.

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[SPEAKER_00]: None of this sounds like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If this whole thing is that he's going to turn heel on the way mora, and this whole ra ra on type thing is leading to a switch.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm okay with that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm here for it at that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But man, that whole thing was so awkward and he does that a lot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, like, this is all in the spirit of Haontai and New Japan and doing our best.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we are going to try to move forward as both, you know, like really I said, friends and rivals, and it just sounds so funny.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And

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[SPEAKER_00]: Again, if it's leading to something where he's going to say, you suckers believe that crap.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It fooled you the whole time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll listen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, that is similar to what Narita did to him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, maybe just said, well, I saw the path.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This whole hauntized stuff for the birds.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And if, if, oh, we're almost to buy into this garbage, let him see what it did for me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Got me boo, you know, you know, that whole thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If he wants to do that, then great, we've seen over and over again how talented people just need to find their voice and whether that's a character's change.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Steve Austin was an excellent wrestler as stunning Steve Austin he was he was really good he was a mid upper midcard upper midcard guy he was a television champion a US champion stone cold Steve Austin was one of the biggest stars ever.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, Rocky, my Avias, smiling and all that kind of stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't until he left that smart Alec part of him come out that he became a mega star.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, I'd say show to Umenos on a Steve Austin or rock level, but there are two of the most obvious examples of someone letting their real personality into their character and taking off like a rocket.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what Amino's got to do, because this whole generic promo Ra Ra, we all, you know, hugging

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think everyone kind of knows it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna got that thoughtful and expensive baby face energy going on and that just doesn't work for like an upper mid card top level guy, you know, because like you want aggressive, you want like fiery, you want the guy that's like we're going after it together.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna take the spirit of strong stuff, but I'm gonna fight for the wide market and more like,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm thinking about all these things and I'm wondering and you're going to do it for me, I think you're probably going to be rewarded with that he'll turn because it's just like if that's not the match for those two guys are wrestling to what the hell are they going to do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like they already did a tag match against knockout brothers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're not going to run that bad.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think so.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Not involved and never never spent a lot of which haven't really been on wrestling team them in years.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, they should get a place a spotlight lower on the card.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, we should be having singles matches and all of the guys that you wanna emphasize for 20.26 need to be on that card because it is going to be your biggest opportunity to show off what is happening in 20.26 and paying off 20.25 right there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, and so it's our 4,000 mentions that he tried making people love him before people loved him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it came across as plastic and an authentic and as any as forever struggled to overturn that it is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The last time he was really loved when he was the plucky underdog shooter, you know, trying to live up to John Moxley, like when John Moxley believed in him, remember that when he just kind of said, you're teaming with me kid, I like your, I like your, your guts.

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[SPEAKER_00]: that worked and a new Japan they kind of loved that part of him but when he started taking on the responsibility to lead new Japan forward and you know that that fell flat that really felt flat uh... for and as i says here he said just got off work ledger was like when mockly and him he had that sentai copi thing going on uh...

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, they never paid it off.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so when you wanted to position show to Umano as this top level guy, but you had previously positioned him as like the little cub of the dangerous John Malkley and never really did anything about it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, like you had the match at wrestle dynasty with Claudio, but they never did the match, you know, like you showed it never got that payoff win over John Mockley to legitimize him at that top level.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think everyone kind of knew.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can't tell us he's a top guy if he doesn't win top matches and you was elevated to a position that he wasn't ready for that the company wasn't prepared to elevate him to and they hoped it would work and the fans saw right through.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's that's what put and the thing is they had a chance to do that moxley thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was a little pocket where Moxley was still over in Japan, but hadn't started the whole full blown deathwriters, you know, untouchable, heel thing in AEW yet, either and he could have been beaten in Japan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You could have done it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can be right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You could, but you know, right now, Moxley doesn't mean as much in Japan as he would have had you done at the shirt.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because he was over that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, that whole US title that he had for a while, that was working.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You can't say that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You can't do it, though.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Look at Show to Umano and say, this guy really big given an opportunity to take the ball.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they just didn't give him the ball or the opportunity for people to look at him legitimately as.

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[SPEAKER_01]: the guy when he went in there and faced off that Saber Jr. at a wrestling kingdom last year, like you were there, like it was a good match to the people that were there, but the belief was that he wasn't going to win because he never had the moment of legitimacy that one epic cataclysmic match that put him over the top.

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[SPEAKER_00]: here exactly right there was no evidence that showed it could win a match at that level because he never had.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Every time he had gotten the big opportunity, choked on it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So to put him then in the rest of the kingdom spot and then for him to lose, you know, you're just like, well, yeah, that's what we've been saying all along.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This guy chokes in the clutch.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's not a big big thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Shoking in the clutch is not a big baby face thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and uh, it's Arbor 4000 also mentions they've also had the chance with the second coming to do something different.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they never did anything there either.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He has been the victim of poor booking and management.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sure has.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, no.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The head did nothing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Nothing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Getting it this year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The whole like I'm going to reconnect it and do it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We are right back to the same show to Umadell that was here before rehooking the washer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was a Personality change guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's do it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right That is that so we have the Super Junior Tag League finals now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is House of Torchard, Doki and show the tag team champions against the Wardogs Robbie X and Taiji is she more he went 15 minutes

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[SPEAKER_00]: and somehow Robbie X was even better here than he was against CMDK.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He was incredible in this match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And yes, it was Mard by a House of Torture Finish.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was a House of Torture Heal cheating finish, but this was a very good match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They managed to counter the black mirror, Ishimori and Robbie X did right there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that teased that they might overcome all this, but Dokey and show one with a low blow missed on Ishimori and things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: those house the torture endings will keep it from becoming a great match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think if this were just wrestled straight up, they probably would have been a great match, as all four of these guys are very, very talented.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The key here, what keeps this from really stinking on ice, like you kept it good to me, Jeremy, is that throughout this super junior tagly, show and doke he didn't have other members of the house the torture jumping in.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They didn't have to do like the full ref bumps and the long sequence of the ref getting brushed up against and then staying down for five minutes, you know, they didn't do that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They had show grab the ref for a few seconds and then they hit the black mirror or the other way around or something like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was a little better heel work on that end.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it looks like Doki is going to have a singles title match of the dump.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So They have that one super junior tag league.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They don't have a hero.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to tell the whole speech that he did after the show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well after

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[SPEAKER_00]: What I think they might do, so I think he's left because Jose Fujita stepped up to Dokey after the show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Dokey turned him down, but you know what that means.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, they're eventually going to have a title match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That could be at the dome.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What I think they might do here is have Dokey in the match with Show and his corner against Fujita.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And there's your Junior Tag Team Champions.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Perhaps that

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[SPEAKER_00]: ladder match or the four corners match could be for a shot at them for a new year's dash for instance or at new beginning or something like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think they're going to have one of those matches to get people on the card and do kind of a you know the big spot show, the big full speed ahead.

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[SPEAKER_00]: match, but maybe that one is the four corners match to determine who gets the title shot instead.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Since Tokyo has both the tag team titles with show and the singles championship, seems like the singles championship would be the match to have it done.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think the giggle match at the play.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Here's what we got here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You've got Doki, like basically taking the mic from show and talking about how he's basically the greatest dude here ever with like the junior title and the single title and he's just he's just feeling himself and you know you look at it and you think well who would have the temerity to interrupt somebody like that but a young punk.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and a young punk with some legitimacy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This guy won the Super Junior Tag League last year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He won the best of the Super Junior this year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And now you got the guy coming in the run up against the guy who won the Super Junior Tag League this year, and it's also the double champion.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you've kind of created a scenario where you have the two top de facto people at a collision course, and I think this is all by design.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Unfortunately, the desk barato doesn't seem to have a big plan for restricting them, but this does feel like the right match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and, you know, they just did desperate, doesn't mean they can't go back to it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They just did desperate out of Indoki, but yeah, it's, uh, I think you're right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And, and clearly future to coming up to them in post-mash comments, challenging, and then just saying, you're not on our level, go away.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, just means that it's just going to take some time to get there, but it's coming.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, we'll see that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It'll probably be really good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Probably be really good match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hopefully it's not marked by too much interference.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think we're going to get tortured by a bad match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The IWGP Global Heavyweight title match was a semi-main event.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was Yota Suji Hiroshita and Hashi went 20 minutes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And before that, there was a really cool video about their relationship.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That goes all the way back and before Yota Suji was in the wrestling business.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Apparently, they met on a train platform to facilities.

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[SPEAKER_00]: John and Hashi, hey, get Yota Beerusler.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, here we are.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The big moves in this match were really good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They did a nice job of making you feel like

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[SPEAKER_00]: Take the match, they created a real tension.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It took two full gene blasts to win.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Tana Hashu used a lot of his ring smarts.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He did a couple of jumps.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Didn't try to over extend himself.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Knees wise, I think, right there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we got a good version of Tana Hashu.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He was highly motivated to put on a good match here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think we got what we'll see who was in his retirement match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But this might be the best,

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the run up to his retirement work rate match he's going to get in the next two months because I think I think you and I are on the same page as they're going to be a lot of story in that last match and not so much like we're getting mad to the edge.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But sushi was good here as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He didn't go heel in this one, but he understood the assignment.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He understood the crowd was going to be for Tana Hashie at Tana Hashie.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Definitely played babyface.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So she didn't play a heel, but he opened up opportunities for by taking most of the match to get the pops off the comeback.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I thought it was an intelligently worked match between the two of them that they understood that the the money is in the comeback here and so as you can kind of creating opportunities for town how she to come back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought that was really good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: big roles to play at Wrestle Kingdom, and Tonahashi showed a loose, but I also felt like they both looked like stars ready for the big show at the big show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we had been kicking around ideas before go-to came back and we wondered if go-to was going to be the hometown guy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: New Japan is my company guy to go to go take back the title from the outside champion to catch them.

01:00:05.037 --> 01:00:13.549
[SPEAKER_00]: It looks like they're positioning Suji to be that instead of goto because afterwards he just said, you can leave New Japan to me, I got this.

01:00:14.991 --> 01:00:18.295
[SPEAKER_00]: And Tata Hashie just said, it's your company now, you know, go and take it.

01:00:18.316 --> 01:00:20.979
[SPEAKER_00]: So Tata Hashie is verbally said, you're the guy.

01:00:21.720 --> 01:00:24.304
[SPEAKER_00]: And this was before he had challenged Takeshita.

01:00:24.344 --> 01:00:27.929
[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, time before all that, Tata Hashie just says, you're the man.

01:00:28.470 --> 01:00:31.794
[SPEAKER_00]: And Suji made the point to just saying, leave New Japan to me, I got this.

01:00:31.814 --> 01:00:33.036
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll take care of it.

01:00:33.016 --> 01:00:39.943
[SPEAKER_00]: And that seems to be the positioning here so that we've got this outside or with our belt that doesn't have the proper respect for the lion mark.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He may love wrestling, but I love New Japan pro wrestling and I'm the guy that's going to bring it back.

01:00:45.388 --> 01:00:46.850
[SPEAKER_00]: And that seems to be what they're headed for.

01:00:47.270 --> 01:00:55.018
[SPEAKER_00]: And what was on my mind there when we entered the main event was that we had not seen the last of you to Susji tonight and indeed we had not.

01:00:55.038 --> 01:01:02.685
[SPEAKER_01]: A literal gatekeeper role by Tautahashi for you to see.

01:01:03.273 --> 01:01:08.562
[SPEAKER_00]: Udo Ice came out afterwards by the way to challenge Tana Hashie mentioned that there was a show in and Joe coming up.

01:01:08.622 --> 01:01:13.110
[SPEAKER_00]: It was in too far from Geafood, which is of course both Tana Hashie and Udo Ice is home.

01:01:13.731 --> 01:01:17.137
[SPEAKER_00]: Tans and he said that you can make the drive over there.

01:01:17.177 --> 01:01:18.700
[SPEAKER_00]: He kind of really good promo.

01:01:18.848 --> 01:01:26.519
[SPEAKER_00]: to lead up to that end show show and, you know, if he's going to wrestle like this, have that air danger and then cut good promos.

01:01:27.440 --> 01:01:47.910
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you know, Nakashima is going to be, I know we're we keep kind of pumping these guys up, but week after week, you know, ice and Oscar do something that is a breath of fresh air, a joltable electricity, and I just, I just have a few of them,

01:01:48.228 --> 01:02:06.999
[SPEAKER_01]: the day picked and that they could have picked to have the cashier to give Tana Hashi a legitimate single-gwin before wrestling kingdom and they picked the new guy because he's the one that's most interesting and he can afford to look the money isn't him losing his attack.

01:02:07.781 --> 01:02:07.941
[SPEAKER_00]: Correct.

01:02:09.777 --> 01:02:11.739
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, I'd be right back, all right, buddy.

01:02:12.240 --> 01:02:13.001
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, sure, no problem.

01:02:13.522 --> 01:02:18.488
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, well, I'm going to go on and I will describe the world heavyweight title mash.

01:02:18.508 --> 01:02:22.393
[SPEAKER_00]: This is Kenosuke Takeshta and Hero ki Goto.

01:02:22.934 --> 01:02:27.900
[SPEAKER_00]: So while Jeremy takes a bit of a step away, I'm going to talk about that one.

01:02:27.920 --> 01:02:35.470
[SPEAKER_00]: So what we had here was the main event of the show, and Takeshta went in there against Goto.

01:02:35.490 --> 01:02:38.113
[SPEAKER_00]: I need to get myself back on screen, there I am.

01:02:38.093 --> 01:02:41.293
[SPEAKER_00]: Technical technical difficulties there for me.

01:02:41.615 --> 01:02:43.829
[SPEAKER_00]: Alright Jeremy's usually the one that does the graphics.

01:02:44.352 --> 01:02:45.117
[SPEAKER_00]: Anyhow.

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[SPEAKER_00]: could also get to catch the hero kigoto this went 24 minutes and 20 seconds this was absolutely fantastic as you would imagine it was it was all to catch the early working on hero kigoto's elbow but as the match built the big move started piling up both of these guys are really really good at that part of the match that big move thing where one more move might do it and go to even pulled out the old code red off the ropes really uh i mentioned the big move time

01:03:15.472 --> 01:03:17.295
[SPEAKER_00]: timing the drama of it.

01:03:17.455 --> 01:03:19.158
[SPEAKER_00]: That's one of the things Goto does best.

01:03:19.879 --> 01:03:32.339
[SPEAKER_00]: His nearfalls, his ability to move in and out of the big moves, knowing exactly how long to sell between them, not rushing, not taking too long, and to catch those right in there and was on his level.

01:03:32.359 --> 01:03:37.227
[SPEAKER_00]: There are very many guys who run Goto's levels far as building that drama late in the match.

01:03:37.207 --> 01:03:38.569
[SPEAKER_00]: Great range of offense from both.

01:03:39.471 --> 01:03:45.822
[SPEAKER_00]: And afterwards, of course, it was to Keshta, I believe with raging fire was the last big move, but there was a whole series.

01:03:46.843 --> 01:03:55.418
[SPEAKER_00]: And there was a handshake and respect after to Keshta didn't play it's not knows the foreigner, like you're not foreigner, but the outsider as he has before.

01:03:56.528 --> 01:04:01.073
[SPEAKER_00]: I mentioned that Matsumoto, the young lion, wanted to be part of the go-to revolutionary army.

01:04:01.093 --> 01:04:02.514
[SPEAKER_00]: He was there in the corner, cornering him.

01:04:02.554 --> 01:04:03.916
[SPEAKER_00]: Yoshi has she didn't seem to mind.

01:04:03.956 --> 01:04:05.237
[SPEAKER_00]: Everybody seemed cool with it.

01:04:05.718 --> 01:04:07.519
[SPEAKER_00]: So I think they're going to let him join the army here.

01:04:07.620 --> 01:04:13.045
[SPEAKER_00]: And he and Yoshi has she walked him out after words they walked go-to out and down the aisle.

01:04:13.406 --> 01:04:18.311
[SPEAKER_00]: But handshake and respect, as I mentioned, not a heel run at all from to catch to end this one.

01:04:18.331 --> 01:04:21.094
[SPEAKER_00]: It will different than what we saw after the G1 finals.

01:04:21.955 --> 01:04:22.435
[SPEAKER_00]: And

01:04:22.735 --> 01:04:30.445
[SPEAKER_00]: He was giving his promo where he was pretty gracious about things for the most part, still a little bit of that, you know, if you don't like it, well, that's too bad.

01:04:30.485 --> 01:04:32.007
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm really good and he's right.

01:04:32.708 --> 01:04:36.092
[SPEAKER_00]: And then he said, who's going to step up to me?

01:04:36.152 --> 01:04:37.654
[SPEAKER_00]: I want to see their face.

01:04:37.674 --> 01:04:38.355
[SPEAKER_00]: And who did we get?

01:04:38.475 --> 01:04:48.388
[SPEAKER_00]: We indeed got Yoda Sergei, the global champion stepped up to the plate, challenged for the Tokyo dome, and it was made official a few days later, which we are about to talk about.

01:04:48.368 --> 01:04:52.815
[SPEAKER_00]: But as far as a match goes, this was absolutely wonderful.

01:04:52.915 --> 01:04:54.117
[SPEAKER_00]: Go out of your way to see it.

01:04:54.678 --> 01:05:02.571
[SPEAKER_00]: I said, if you're going to see two matches one this week, make sure you see, if you're more in X versus Fujita and Eagles as a tag team match, make sure you see this one.

01:05:02.611 --> 01:05:08.901
[SPEAKER_00]: But overall, Jeremy, I thought that the Tana Hashie homecoming was a pretty good show, especially the second half.

01:05:09.342 --> 01:05:12.287
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's a really strong final three matches here.

01:05:12.908 --> 01:05:15.692
[SPEAKER_00]: And this one, go to a Takeshita,

01:05:16.212 --> 01:05:20.460
[SPEAKER_00]: a wonderful example of a good strong style world heavyweight title match.

01:05:20.480 --> 01:05:23.406
[SPEAKER_00]: Enjoy the hell out of a 24 minutes 20 seconds to catch the retains.

01:05:24.388 --> 01:05:24.909
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I give it.

01:05:25.089 --> 01:05:36.972
[SPEAKER_01]: I give the show a B. I thought it did what they, what find necessity needed to be done in order to get wrestle kingdom matches on the board.

01:05:37.306 --> 01:05:42.415
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't love the Takeshinen go to match the way that you did, but I thought it was very, very good.

01:05:42.455 --> 01:06:02.689
[SPEAKER_01]: There's something about the way that Takeshinen is currently wrestling in Japan that I can't quite get a hand on, where his match structure is telling a story that once I figure it out, it's probably going to be pretty brilliant to me, but there's a connective tissue thing that

01:06:03.766 --> 01:06:16.999
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not quite in sync with, but I think it's a me thing because everyone I talk to It's talking about these two cashier matches and how per unit they are and I'm just I'm struggling in a little bit.

01:06:17.755 --> 01:06:19.017
[SPEAKER_01]: but they're not bad.

01:06:19.037 --> 01:06:23.783
[SPEAKER_01]: They're just not at this like, I don't see at that deep level what other people are seeing.

01:06:24.124 --> 01:06:25.646
[SPEAKER_01]: I think they're very, very good.

01:06:25.926 --> 01:06:29.912
[SPEAKER_01]: I do not think that they are the best matches that you can have though.

01:06:30.072 --> 01:06:32.235
[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's the difference.

01:06:32.255 --> 01:06:32.716
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, fair enough.

01:06:33.056 --> 01:06:40.587
[SPEAKER_00]: Nick Reeves said excellent main event, but I wish I could have happened at another point in time when the outcome could have been in greater doubt.

01:06:41.027 --> 01:06:43.611
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what your go-to had never lost the title in the first place.

01:06:43.996 --> 01:07:03.794
[SPEAKER_00]: That is a fair point because you mentioned that we know that he's probably going to go into the Tokyo dome as the main event or to catch up, meaning he's, and so whoever he faced here wasn't going to take that title, they weren't going to suddenly switch it all now.

01:07:03.934 --> 01:07:08.519
[SPEAKER_00]: And if to catch up did lose this, then what was he not going to be on the Tokyo dome?

01:07:08.539 --> 01:07:09.520
[SPEAKER_00]: It just didn't make sense.

01:07:09.600 --> 01:07:12.062
[SPEAKER_00]: So like I said, you knew to catch up was retaining.

01:07:12.042 --> 01:07:19.633
[SPEAKER_00]: And Goto is so beloved that meant, you know, everyone was kind of watching and just kind of waiting for their favorite guy to lose, which is can be awkward.

01:07:20.193 --> 01:07:23.598
[SPEAKER_00]: So it speaks to them that they still put together a heck of a good match that the people were into.

01:07:24.159 --> 01:07:28.705
[SPEAKER_00]: Because people there also knew they weren't going to get the finish that they really wanted.

01:07:28.725 --> 01:07:29.927
[SPEAKER_00]: They're not going to get the ending.

01:07:29.947 --> 01:07:31.449
[SPEAKER_00]: They would make them happy.

01:07:32.250 --> 01:07:36.677
[SPEAKER_00]: But instead they did get a really good match and they got a Yoda suit you challenged.

01:07:36.897 --> 01:07:39.180
[SPEAKER_00]: And the fans and Geifu seem to enjoy the all night.

01:07:39.734 --> 01:07:43.939
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it was all about passing the torch at the end of their show, right?

01:07:44.140 --> 01:07:52.430
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it was like, Taiji Shimori, one of the veteran like junior past in the torch to doke in a lot of way.

01:07:52.450 --> 01:08:01.742
[SPEAKER_01]: If they knew have Tana Hashi, past in the torch to Suji, and you got go to somewhat passing the torch to Keshita.

01:08:03.342 --> 01:08:22.633
[SPEAKER_01]: It's the youth movement that we have been waiting for but it has it's not coming in with trumpets and like a marching band it's just it's happening because it has to happen now there's no more time these guys have to pass the torch or they won't be passing the torch whatsoever.

01:08:22.833 --> 01:08:25.455
[SPEAKER_00]: they must must must follow through.

01:08:25.496 --> 01:08:27.437
[SPEAKER_00]: We've been teased with stuff like this before.

01:08:27.457 --> 01:08:28.378
[SPEAKER_00]: Youth moment's coming.

01:08:28.398 --> 01:08:28.799
[SPEAKER_00]: Here it is.

01:08:29.099 --> 01:08:30.801
[SPEAKER_00]: And then those guys lost the big matches.

01:08:31.141 --> 01:08:32.482
[SPEAKER_00]: They have to follow through.

01:08:32.923 --> 01:08:36.026
[SPEAKER_00]: When I keep mind, Suji is way too old to be a young talent.

01:08:36.046 --> 01:08:37.026
[SPEAKER_00]: He's 32 years old.

01:08:38.608 --> 01:08:39.969
[SPEAKER_00]: No, that's that's the amazing part of the game.

01:08:39.989 --> 01:08:40.870
[SPEAKER_00]: Backer to a 30.

01:08:41.511 --> 01:08:42.672
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he's yeah, 32.

01:08:43.132 --> 01:08:48.037
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's it's they don't have that much time if you're going to strike while it's out.

01:08:48.557 --> 01:08:49.178
[SPEAKER_00]: But

01:08:49.495 --> 01:08:50.176
[SPEAKER_00]: Resilking them.

01:08:50.336 --> 01:08:57.046
[SPEAKER_00]: If, if, if they go with Fujita and Doki, if they go with Suji and Takeshita, you say farewell to Tana Hashie at the end.

01:08:57.506 --> 01:09:02.834
[SPEAKER_00]: Look at these, if not young, some were young, Fujita's young at new stars.

01:09:02.934 --> 01:09:05.037
[SPEAKER_00]: Now we've got a new guy holding up the title.

01:09:05.057 --> 01:09:09.844
[SPEAKER_00]: We've got Fujita is the one one of the youngest junior heavyweight champions ever.

01:09:09.884 --> 01:09:10.585
[SPEAKER_00]: That type of thing.

01:09:11.506 --> 01:09:16.313
[SPEAKER_00]: Then you get a little bit of that spark Udo and Oscar, clearly getting over.

01:09:17.423 --> 01:09:22.310
[SPEAKER_00]: Bring those guys into the new year might have something, but they've got to follow through.

01:09:22.350 --> 01:09:25.335
[SPEAKER_00]: They haven't followed through in years, plural, got to follow through.

01:09:25.916 --> 01:09:27.438
[SPEAKER_00]: And Nick Reeves, by the way, agrees with you.

01:09:27.458 --> 01:09:30.823
[SPEAKER_00]: There is a little something missing with DeKesh's matches that I can't put my finger on.

01:09:30.843 --> 01:09:40.497
[SPEAKER_00]: He says, you're not alone in feeling that there's still a gear to be seen, rather, you know, there's somewhere for him to move up.

01:09:41.098 --> 01:09:42.200
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I call it a death connect.

01:09:42.220 --> 01:09:43.081
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what it is.

01:09:43.521 --> 01:09:45.945
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know where it is, but

01:09:46.465 --> 01:09:50.389
[SPEAKER_01]: Just haven't haven't fully linked, yep.

01:09:50.409 --> 01:09:50.509
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

01:09:50.529 --> 01:09:51.149
[SPEAKER_00]: So there we go.

01:09:51.270 --> 01:09:55.574
[SPEAKER_00]: So that was the Tanaashi homecoming show.

01:09:56.555 --> 01:10:00.158
[SPEAKER_00]: I mentioned some of the things that happened in post-match comments.

01:10:00.178 --> 01:10:06.344
[SPEAKER_00]: Some of the teams, Haromu Takahashi asked Pippi, geto, that's what was his nickname for geto.

01:10:06.364 --> 01:10:09.827
[SPEAKER_00]: It was Pippi, if he wanted to team up in World Tag League because he won it last year.

01:10:10.588 --> 01:10:14.852
[SPEAKER_00]: He'd be heard and said, I don't know about that one, but how about Finley?

01:10:15.035 --> 01:10:20.684
[SPEAKER_00]: And so, and we are going to get David Finlay teaming with her, her own Wutaka Hashi at World Tag League.

01:10:20.704 --> 01:10:23.749
[SPEAKER_00]: We saw Yuya and Shota agreed a team up.

01:10:24.631 --> 01:10:28.117
[SPEAKER_00]: There were a couple others like that, where it was the acknowledgement.

01:10:28.137 --> 01:10:33.425
[SPEAKER_00]: Shingo Takagi said he had a partner in mind that surprised a lot of people.

01:10:33.445 --> 01:10:35.068
[SPEAKER_00]: He'll be teaming with Drillamaloni.

01:10:35.328 --> 01:10:38.073
[SPEAKER_00]: And all that kind of came up during post-mash comments.

01:10:38.093 --> 01:10:39.996
[SPEAKER_00]: It was one more, though, Jeremy.

01:10:40.128 --> 01:10:48.561
[SPEAKER_00]: ghetto approached Tana Hashie in peace afterwards and said I understand that it hasn't been scheduled yet.

01:10:48.961 --> 01:10:49.963
[SPEAKER_00]: You're a final opponent.

01:10:50.003 --> 01:10:51.425
[SPEAKER_00]: And Tana Hashie just said not yet.

01:10:51.866 --> 01:10:54.550
[SPEAKER_00]: And he just said, just give me the word, I'll make a call.

01:10:56.192 --> 01:10:59.557
[SPEAKER_00]: So Tana Hashie got to gave him a look.

01:10:59.577 --> 01:11:03.323
[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously this is all theatrical and things, but Tana Hashie just got to give him a look, really.

01:11:03.343 --> 01:11:06.928
[SPEAKER_00]: And he just said,

01:11:08.174 --> 01:11:11.439
[SPEAKER_00]: Storyline-wise, storyline-wise, there's some work to do here, right?

01:11:12.220 --> 01:11:14.042
[SPEAKER_00]: The obvious implications, there are two.

01:11:15.344 --> 01:11:18.509
[SPEAKER_00]: It narrows down that they're probably not talking about night though.

01:11:18.529 --> 01:11:24.938
[SPEAKER_00]: He has nothing to do with ghetto, or hasn't, really, as far as any kind of a storyline affiliation with him.

01:11:24.958 --> 01:11:28.383
[SPEAKER_00]: Ghetto was a member of chaos when Nakamura was in chaos.

01:11:28.563 --> 01:11:32.930
[SPEAKER_00]: So if it ends up being Nakamura was a long shot, we've talked about that.

01:11:33.170 --> 01:11:38.097
[SPEAKER_00]: There is a way, they were both in chaos together.

01:11:38.600 --> 01:11:40.241
[SPEAKER_00]: The obvious one is Okada.

01:11:41.182 --> 01:11:48.390
[SPEAKER_00]: The only problem is, Ocata hated ghetto at the end of his run because he had stabbed Ocata in the back to go with J.

01:11:48.410 --> 01:11:49.030
[SPEAKER_00]: White.

01:11:49.050 --> 01:11:49.791
[SPEAKER_00]: No one expects J.

01:11:49.831 --> 01:11:50.792
[SPEAKER_00]: White to be the opponent.

01:11:51.092 --> 01:11:55.537
[SPEAKER_00]: The obvious implications the ghetto still has Ocata's number somehow and can make this happen.

01:11:55.577 --> 01:12:08.691
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if it's either going to say the ghetto in Ocata may piece or just a business arrangement or what it is, but this seems Jeremy to narrow it down to someone who has been affiliated

01:12:11.388 --> 01:12:29.359
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, there have been other podcasts that have been discussing this in-depth and or a lot going on in the scenes on this one, and certainly we're not going to know until we know.

01:12:29.980 --> 01:12:36.872
[SPEAKER_01]: But the fact of the matter is, if it was Ocata, they would have announced it by then.

01:12:37.662 --> 01:12:37.983
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

01:12:38.103 --> 01:12:45.236
[SPEAKER_01]: There's no reason to hold off announcing Ocata all this time when they just did the press conference.

01:12:46.518 --> 01:12:55.474
[SPEAKER_01]: If there's some possibility that somebody else is in putting and tell that person is no longer announced as the person.

01:12:55.494 --> 01:13:00.463
[SPEAKER_01]: I think this is all kind of in the ether and

01:13:01.557 --> 01:13:18.902
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought when you brought in ghetto and you're doing the next show in Ocana is basically backyard Saturday on his birthday reading you're reading a lot of people to believe it's going to be Ocana.

01:13:18.922 --> 01:13:31.480
[SPEAKER_01]: But it's not for sure and that is the part that I'm just like if it was

01:13:32.135 --> 01:13:34.400
[SPEAKER_01]: You don't like, there can't be a video package.

01:13:34.781 --> 01:13:38.429
[SPEAKER_01]: This is like a retirement match.

01:13:39.812 --> 01:13:41.656
[SPEAKER_01]: You don't have to ask any of this.

01:13:42.317 --> 01:13:43.780
[SPEAKER_01]: You need to just have to guide there.

01:13:44.402 --> 01:13:47.168
[SPEAKER_01]: That's in my mind, feels like the important thing to do.

01:13:47.248 --> 01:13:48.851
[SPEAKER_01]: I hope, I hope that at least they do that.

01:13:49.513 --> 01:13:51.477
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

01:13:52.520 --> 01:14:02.293
[SPEAKER_01]: I want them to announce it so we're all just not sitting wondering what they're going to do and when they're going to do it, we are less than 50 days away from the show.

01:14:02.753 --> 01:14:07.219
[SPEAKER_01]: They have sold $31,500 tickets or something like that.

01:14:08.481 --> 01:14:21.818
[SPEAKER_01]: They don't have to announce it yet, but it's so frustrating that it feels like they're talking about all these things, and this is the thing that needs to close the show.

01:14:22.152 --> 01:14:29.503
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I mean, I think that also you can finalize it behind the scenes and wait until after the surgery match to announce it.

01:14:29.523 --> 01:14:30.705
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't really have a problem with that.

01:14:31.086 --> 01:14:38.136
[SPEAKER_00]: Say they had announced it two weeks ago that it's going to be O'Cottarov, even it's going to be not going to be nighto for that matter.

01:14:38.156 --> 01:14:41.241
[SPEAKER_00]: Nighto's coming back for one more night, whatever, whatever.

01:14:41.221 --> 01:15:09.118
[SPEAKER_00]: anything they do is going to overshadow that Suji match and I think that New Japan might have approached it like we need this Suji match to be the focus because we need the fans to hear him say and be paying attention when he says I'll take it from here and for Tana Hashi to say this is yours I don't think they wanted people okay Tana Hashi lost to him maybe he'll be to Ocada maybe he'll be they want them just thinking about this

01:15:09.098 --> 01:15:18.978
[SPEAKER_00]: And so I can understand the idea of not announcing the main event until after they get this business done with Suji, of really putting Suji over and watching him toward that top spot.

01:15:19.059 --> 01:15:19.980
[SPEAKER_00]: That's important also.

01:15:20.461 --> 01:15:24.610
[SPEAKER_00]: We've talked about how people need to come out of rest looking them with a hero.

01:15:24.590 --> 01:15:29.355
[SPEAKER_00]: And so I think that some of that might have been, let's not take anything away from me out of here.

01:15:29.795 --> 01:15:33.078
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's have this be about Yoda and Takeshtot at the end of this one and nobody else.

01:15:33.458 --> 01:15:39.784
[SPEAKER_00]: And then a couple of days, we can say, or next week, you know, week later, then we can say, who's, yeah, maybe that's that.

01:15:39.804 --> 01:15:42.907
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe they may get a double made of that or whatever, like, you sure.

01:15:42.927 --> 01:15:43.948
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:15:43.968 --> 01:15:54.158
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, when this is all said and done, the stories about Honohashi's final

01:15:54.526 --> 01:16:22.761
[SPEAKER_01]: like the things that are not public right now that I know that some of these other podcasts have discussed I know things but frankly speaking I just want to see what plays out and I don't want to be a part of how this all plays out so I'm just keeping my damn house shut and I'm going to wait and see what happens because I don't want to be a part of the story I want the story

01:16:23.467 --> 01:16:29.758
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, all right, well, we will be keeping our eye on the angel show, which is coming up on Saturday.

01:16:29.838 --> 01:16:32.964
[SPEAKER_00]: The A is coming hot now.

01:16:32.984 --> 01:16:41.659
[SPEAKER_00]: We had a couple of, oh, and it's Arbor saying, I know it's not ideal, but what are the chances we don't know the opponent until the entrance is a rest of kingdom?

01:16:41.800 --> 01:16:43.142
[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, they're going to want this out.

01:16:44.384 --> 01:16:45.947
[SPEAKER_01]: The old Patrol job.

01:16:46.754 --> 01:16:48.897
[SPEAKER_00]: No, they're going to want to use this person to sell tickets.

01:16:48.977 --> 01:16:53.202
[SPEAKER_00]: It is it is critical to sell a lot of they've already You've got a lot of video packages.

01:16:53.302 --> 01:16:56.466
[SPEAKER_00]: They're still another 10 or 1000 or so seats.

01:16:56.546 --> 01:17:08.340
[SPEAKER_00]: They can sell off of this and they're going to want to get every single one of them So I don't think they're going to wait until the dome doing an answer because I think they're going to want every single person in every single seat they can get keep in mind

01:17:08.911 --> 01:17:17.888
[SPEAKER_00]: Chris Charlton said the words 30,000 like three weeks ago, and then it's still like 31,000, meaning things have stalled out the last couple of weeks.

01:17:18.169 --> 01:17:20.854
[SPEAKER_00]: After, you know, they need to start announcing matches.

01:17:20.874 --> 01:17:26.725
[SPEAKER_00]: They got the whole Tana Hashi retirement boom off of the day of the day tickets were released.

01:17:26.745 --> 01:17:27.928
[SPEAKER_00]: That did very, very well.

01:17:28.208 --> 01:17:29.410
[SPEAKER_00]: Then it climbed to 30,000.

01:17:29.431 --> 01:17:30.733
[SPEAKER_00]: And then

01:17:30.713 --> 01:17:32.415
[SPEAKER_00]: a couple of weeks later, it was 31,000.

01:17:33.657 --> 01:17:35.119
[SPEAKER_00]: You see that it's a level block.

01:17:35.279 --> 01:17:36.201
[SPEAKER_01]: We're plateauing.

01:17:36.261 --> 01:17:37.442
[SPEAKER_00]: Get level, they plateaued.

01:17:37.462 --> 01:17:42.229
[SPEAKER_00]: So they need to start announcing the matches, which will bring out a few more people up there.

01:17:42.469 --> 01:17:42.569
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:17:42.589 --> 01:17:43.951
[SPEAKER_00]: And Arbor Singh entered Jericho.

01:17:44.011 --> 01:17:46.535
[SPEAKER_00]: Please, no, no, no, no.

01:17:46.635 --> 01:17:52.523
[SPEAKER_00]: Let Jericho go back and do his retirement tour in WWE where he can do half hour promos and five-minute matches.

01:17:52.863 --> 01:17:53.845
[SPEAKER_00]: That's about right for Chris.

01:17:54.405 --> 01:17:55.267
[SPEAKER_00]: Except for the promo part.

01:17:55.527 --> 01:17:57.510
[SPEAKER_01]: Judas will always stay in my mind.

01:17:57.530 --> 01:17:59.252
[SPEAKER_01]: I do not want to hear it live

01:17:59.232 --> 01:18:11.955
[SPEAKER_00]: Good Lord, no, good Lord, no, he's not a big, he's one of the people that it could be, but Chris doesn't know this, but he's not a big enough star for this for that to be a big, for him to be town of Hash, he's retirement batch.

01:18:12.256 --> 01:18:15.402
[SPEAKER_00]: Chris doesn't know that, but he's not a big enough star to be the retirement.

01:18:15.782 --> 01:18:21.713
[SPEAKER_01]: Mr. Irvine is not privy to the truth.

01:18:21.693 --> 01:18:25.136
[SPEAKER_00]: John is as he is Mercedes-Benz the women's champion.

01:18:25.177 --> 01:18:26.258
[SPEAKER_00]: Not yet, but I haven't looked.

01:18:26.298 --> 01:18:44.576
[SPEAKER_00]: I haven't checked it during the show live And there's a different belt collection going on and that John I'm glad you're here because that leads right into our next thing which were a couple of matches I know that way for a rest of kingdom watch this segue you're ready for this well Mercedes-Benz has of course A gimmick is now that she's collecting titles from around the world.

01:18:44.616 --> 01:18:46.418
[SPEAKER_00]: She's got over a dozen of them, right?

01:18:47.107 --> 01:18:54.753
[SPEAKER_00]: belt collecting is going on in the women's divisions as well because Saia Kamatani won the red belt quite a while ago.

01:18:54.874 --> 01:19:06.904
[SPEAKER_00]: She's been the biggest star in women's wrestling and just having one of the great years in and Josie pro wrestling as far as mainstream publicity and appearances.

01:19:07.384 --> 01:19:16.692
[SPEAKER_00]: I got a little bit of trivia on that Jeremy that I find really interesting and of course she has had a run with that red

01:19:16.672 --> 01:19:24.015
[SPEAKER_00]: She also won the NJPW Strong Title in a title versus title match with Asami, so she's a double champion already.

01:19:24.890 --> 01:19:31.055
[SPEAKER_00]: This is a strong champion, and she will be facing Shuri, who is the IWGP Women's Champion.

01:19:31.136 --> 01:19:37.261
[SPEAKER_00]: Just having one that belt from Shuri, they will face off at Wrestle Kingdom title versus title.

01:19:37.301 --> 01:19:39.023
[SPEAKER_00]: So we have a theme now, Jeremy.

01:19:39.043 --> 01:19:43.506
[SPEAKER_00]: We will have Yoda Susji and Takeshita, title for title, both belts on the line.

01:19:43.526 --> 01:19:46.129
[SPEAKER_00]: We're gonna talk about that in a minute, more on that later.

01:19:46.149 --> 01:19:53.175
[SPEAKER_00]: This one, the IWGP Women's title and the Strong Women's title, double championship, not a red belt match.

01:19:53.155 --> 01:20:01.144
[SPEAKER_00]: But what that means is if Kamatani wins, she will have collected all of the women's titles in Bushi wrote.

01:20:01.164 --> 01:20:02.666
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, so there you go.

01:20:03.107 --> 01:20:11.256
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, whether they deactivate those titles or she's just, you know, hold them separately or however they want to do that, they haven't announced all of that yet.

01:20:11.297 --> 01:20:13.159
[SPEAKER_00]: We have a little more clarity on the men's side.

01:20:13.639 --> 01:20:16.783
[SPEAKER_00]: But if Mercedes Manay is a belt collector,

01:20:16.763 --> 01:20:19.546
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, Saiya Kamatani is collecting all the bushy road titles.

01:20:19.947 --> 01:20:21.188
[SPEAKER_00]: I expect Saiya to win.

01:20:21.929 --> 01:20:24.453
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't see them beating her at the biggest stage.

01:20:24.493 --> 01:20:26.115
[SPEAKER_00]: I think this is exactly what they want.

01:20:26.135 --> 01:20:30.480
[SPEAKER_00]: This is going to be on television in Japan, keep in mind, which leads to that bit of trivia, Jeremy.

01:20:30.961 --> 01:20:37.409
[SPEAKER_00]: I mentioned that for the first time in 20 years, there was a women's wrestling match on national network television.

01:20:37.429 --> 01:20:46.720
[SPEAKER_00]: It was when Saiya Kamatani wrestled honan in a match on the panel show that variety show that she was a guest on for about three months.

01:20:46.700 --> 01:20:48.261
[SPEAKER_00]: and she had to run on that show.

01:20:48.281 --> 01:21:01.013
[SPEAKER_00]: When that came to a close, they did a special in-studio match with honan, about eight minutes and it was kind of the goodbye and they did all the flowers and all the tears and things saying goodbye to Sia because they loved having her on the show so much.

01:21:02.155 --> 01:21:07.339
[SPEAKER_00]: So the point by the way that one of the other male hosts of that show dressed up as Sia for Halloween.

01:21:08.300 --> 01:21:09.602
[SPEAKER_00]: That was Sia's Halloween costume.

01:21:09.642 --> 01:21:15.407
[SPEAKER_00]: He came out in the full year, the full start of

01:21:16.332 --> 01:21:22.444
[SPEAKER_00]: She wrestled on TBS, and she will appear on the rival network TV Asahi.

01:21:22.728 --> 01:21:40.244
[SPEAKER_00]: for wrestle kingdom, which means Siyah Kamatani in a space of about three months will have appeared on two separate television networks in matches in Japan, it's been a very long time since a female wrestler in Japan had that kind of mainstream exposure.

01:21:40.344 --> 01:21:52.735
[SPEAKER_00]: So she is on a different level right now, and that's one of the matches we have that you will be saying, Jeremy, in person, that wrestling kingdom, I'll tell you what.

01:21:52.715 --> 01:21:55.759
[SPEAKER_01]: I was thinking about that this morning.

01:21:56.581 --> 01:22:00.026
[SPEAKER_01]: This match really does have an opportunity to tear the house down.

01:22:00.426 --> 01:22:03.451
[SPEAKER_01]: I laughed earlier when you said the women boozey road titles.

01:22:03.771 --> 01:22:09.660
[SPEAKER_01]: Because at first, I thought you said the women boozey road titles boozey road.

01:22:10.585 --> 01:22:12.969
[SPEAKER_00]: That would be the Mercedes vanetre, the one at the bougie one.

01:22:12.989 --> 01:22:14.231
[SPEAKER_00]: That would be a good one for her to have.

01:22:14.992 --> 01:22:18.076
[SPEAKER_01]: Mercedes, I don't the IWGB title, they're both kind of bougie.

01:22:18.096 --> 01:22:19.338
[SPEAKER_00]: Mercedes is fantastic.

01:22:19.378 --> 01:22:22.603
[SPEAKER_00]: In some days, Sia versus Mercedes might be a fantastic match.

01:22:22.663 --> 01:22:23.945
[SPEAKER_00]: It might be really exciting.

01:22:24.807 --> 01:22:31.116
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not going to be here, but who knows what they have in mind for all star grand quaintem in April or wherever.

01:22:31.177 --> 01:22:36.745
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, but I would not shock the Mercedes show that after this match, because you could collect more belts.

01:22:38.024 --> 01:22:38.465
[SPEAKER_00]: There you go.

01:22:38.565 --> 01:22:41.388
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, so I come to tell you, sure, it should be fantastic.

01:22:41.408 --> 01:22:44.072
[SPEAKER_01]: And the other one announced the opportunity for network television, right?

01:22:44.572 --> 01:22:44.993
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:22:45.013 --> 01:22:52.463
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's, it's just remarkable that she's getting all this publicity because she's, she's so good at just projecting out everybody.

01:22:52.703 --> 01:22:57.769
[SPEAKER_00]: Everybody she interacts with seems to like her and she's, anyone that any show that has her own has her back.

01:22:57.890 --> 01:22:58.971
[SPEAKER_00]: So that tells you all you need to know.

01:22:59.432 --> 01:23:01.114
[SPEAKER_01]: She had a presence at that press conference.

01:23:01.154 --> 01:23:02.175
[SPEAKER_01]: I will say that for sure.

01:23:03.387 --> 01:23:05.309
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, uh, estimates here.

01:23:05.410 --> 01:23:07.152
[SPEAKER_00]: USVA guys got a little statement to make.

01:23:07.172 --> 01:23:07.792
[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to go with this.

01:23:07.833 --> 01:23:09.054
[SPEAKER_00]: He said, just so everyone knows.

01:23:09.134 --> 01:23:10.236
[SPEAKER_00]: So we're going to tell everyone right here.

01:23:10.556 --> 01:23:16.644
[SPEAKER_00]: If Tony Khan's meddling and cry baby fits, lead to him keeping Nakamura away, he will never live it down.

01:23:16.784 --> 01:23:18.526
[SPEAKER_00]: fandom will make his life a living hell.

01:23:18.966 --> 01:23:19.707
[SPEAKER_00]: This is no joke.

01:23:21.309 --> 01:23:28.658
[SPEAKER_00]: Hmm, the politics of wrestling have tripped the tripped many of people over the years.

01:23:28.678 --> 01:23:33.124
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that's the budget.

01:23:33.661 --> 01:23:40.207
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't say it, but pretty much what I've heard.

01:23:40.267 --> 01:23:50.977
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, we mentioned this when we were just kicking around ideas that the one thing that the risk in bringing in Nakamura for this, if you can get WWE to agree in all those politics, right?

01:23:50.997 --> 01:23:58.984
[SPEAKER_00]: But if things have happened before, and it's not Vince McMahon, Triple H seems more amenable to certain situations, all that stuff, right?

01:23:59.064 --> 01:24:03.448
[SPEAKER_00]: All that talk, maybe there's a way they

01:24:05.251 --> 01:24:07.102
[SPEAKER_00]: Do they want to piss off Tony that much?

01:24:07.203 --> 01:24:08.611
[SPEAKER_00]: That's the balance here, right?

01:24:08.652 --> 01:24:11.710
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean that like would that upset him would this cause on it?

01:24:11.730 --> 01:24:12.173
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't rip

01:24:13.064 --> 01:24:16.149
[SPEAKER_00]: What if they don't, but that's the story in and of itself, right?

01:24:16.169 --> 01:24:22.398
[SPEAKER_00]: But the whole idea of Nakamura being on the show has far more repercussions than we borrowed a WWE star for a night.

01:24:22.939 --> 01:24:27.506
[SPEAKER_00]: And these are all things new Japan needs to think about, because this is a long term.

01:24:27.926 --> 01:24:31.071
[SPEAKER_00]: This could have long term consequences to it.

01:24:31.612 --> 01:24:41.046
[SPEAKER_00]: Whether they want to go ahead and call the bluff and tell them to live with it, or if they, because, hey, this is something special, once in a lifetime type of thing, maybe,

01:24:41.245 --> 01:24:49.517
[SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, how much do they really want to, you know, it's Japanese business, politics, mixed in with all this, very complicated situation.

01:24:49.565 --> 01:24:52.468
[SPEAKER_01]: I will, I will put it to you this way in my viewpoint.

01:24:52.909 --> 01:25:00.417
[SPEAKER_01]: New Japan at the main character here, and their interest should serve more than anyone else in this situation.

01:25:00.537 --> 01:25:05.322
[SPEAKER_01]: Just because there are other promotions that are bigger fishes and bigger pongs.

01:25:05.402 --> 01:25:11.288
[SPEAKER_01]: This is Japan, and this promotion new Japan really does need to be selfish in this case.

01:25:12.109 --> 01:25:15.032
[SPEAKER_01]: This isn't no win situation for Kodi Khan.

01:25:15.603 --> 01:25:18.408
[SPEAKER_01]: It really is, yeah, that's fair point too.

01:25:18.728 --> 01:25:40.446
[SPEAKER_01]: He says, okay, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

01:25:41.152 --> 01:26:04.746
[SPEAKER_01]: I get it, but really the only thing the Tony Kong can do in the situation is smile through the bag of shit that he has to eat and say, you know what, Tonahashi is a living legend and all the promotions are going to come together to honor him for this one night at the Tokyo

01:26:04.726 --> 01:26:05.928
[SPEAKER_01]: That is what you say.

01:26:05.988 --> 01:26:08.854
[SPEAKER_01]: That is the only thing that you can say in the entire thing.

01:26:09.275 --> 01:26:21.317
[SPEAKER_01]: And you let Newt Japan have this one and let them do whatever the hell they want with their one night, with their one guy that kept progressing alive in a lot of ways when it wasn't thriving elsewhere.

01:26:22.107 --> 01:26:23.929
[SPEAKER_00]: And you're right about another thing, Jeremy.

01:26:24.109 --> 01:26:28.653
[SPEAKER_00]: Tana Hashie has been praised by other companies than the ones in the alliance.

01:26:28.673 --> 01:26:35.519
[SPEAKER_00]: He's shown up at a couple other, for smaller companies and they've all done big tributes to him when he's been at their shows.

01:26:35.819 --> 01:26:37.200
[SPEAKER_00]: That has happened over the course of the year.

01:26:37.220 --> 01:26:38.681
[SPEAKER_00]: We'll probably happen between here and there.

01:26:39.222 --> 01:26:40.883
[SPEAKER_00]: It seems to be a unifying factor.

01:26:40.903 --> 01:26:42.685
[SPEAKER_00]: There's like, look, this guy's a big deal.

01:26:42.745 --> 01:26:43.646
[SPEAKER_00]: He might not have been ours.

01:26:44.126 --> 01:26:45.247
[SPEAKER_00]: He might not have been our star.

01:26:45.968 --> 01:26:47.229
[SPEAKER_00]: He might have been a new Japan guy.

01:26:47.249 --> 01:26:51.152
[SPEAKER_00]: And they might be the competition, but it's frigging to Hiroshi Tana Hashie.

01:26:51.132 --> 01:26:52.898
[SPEAKER_00]: But Kato Kia Mia.

01:26:52.958 --> 01:26:58.636
[SPEAKER_00]: This is all K-Fade Kato Kia Mia came to New Japan and asked the team with him on a Noah show.

01:26:58.757 --> 01:27:02.188
[SPEAKER_00]: It will be my honor if you come to the Noah show.

01:27:03.147 --> 01:27:10.817
[SPEAKER_00]: That's not a position a lot of wrestling companies would allow themselves to be in, but again, you know that, but they don't know how she's different and he'll sell tickets.

01:27:10.897 --> 01:27:24.073
[SPEAKER_00]: And so it is a delicate balance a couple other comments here, but it's arbor says Tony having more pull over New Japan than the president in the ace would surely mean a realization that the partnership needs to end.

01:27:24.173 --> 01:27:27.838
[SPEAKER_00]: That's goes to your thing here, Jeremy is just like, if if.

01:27:29.135 --> 01:27:39.918
[SPEAKER_00]: if he throws this fit and puts us foot down on it, maybe that is indeed the moment where New Japan goes, this isn't helping us like we needed to.

01:27:41.301 --> 01:27:45.270
[SPEAKER_01]: What if I were to tell you that those conversations are already there?

01:27:47.647 --> 01:28:00.425
[SPEAKER_00]: He'll, uh, it's Arbor also mentions the only way Tony comes out looking all right just by publicly acknowledging it and saying that he will allow it and he likes to see more cooperation between all from on that would be the mature and smart thing to do the only thing he can do.

01:28:00.666 --> 01:28:02.148
[SPEAKER_00]: It should say the ace of it together.

01:28:02.588 --> 01:28:16.388
[SPEAKER_01]: The ace transcends politics and it's all good with me even if it's through grit and teeth, you know, just the bag of crap that I mentioned he

01:28:16.368 --> 01:28:17.129
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you, sir.

01:28:17.249 --> 01:28:19.492
[SPEAKER_01]: May I have another?

01:28:19.512 --> 01:28:20.493
[SPEAKER_00]: It's complicated, though.

01:28:20.513 --> 01:28:22.555
[SPEAKER_00]: And this is a difficult situation.

01:28:22.575 --> 01:28:22.676
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:28:22.696 --> 01:28:26.460
[SPEAKER_01]: There have been many times where he has been put in these no-one situation.

01:28:26.560 --> 01:28:32.487
[SPEAKER_01]: These are petty wrestling wars in which one company would early wants to stop the other one out.

01:28:32.808 --> 01:28:39.055
[SPEAKER_01]: And the other one just says, hey, man, we just want to be an alternative and okay.

01:28:39.796 --> 01:28:41.498
[SPEAKER_01]: And somehow

01:28:41.950 --> 01:28:56.311
[SPEAKER_01]: the stupidest wrestling battles that you could possibly conceive as well as the stupidest wrestling battles that you could not even imagine happening behind the scenes and that you find out afterwards that you're like, yeah, you know what, people are unhinged.

01:28:56.852 --> 01:29:10.472
[SPEAKER_01]: They really need to figure out their life because there's money to be made by everyone and there's a valid art form and pro wrestling

01:29:11.330 --> 01:29:21.155
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, well with that, we also have the other match, the other elephant in that room is to catch diverse geotaceers, you title for title that's been officially announced at the dome.

01:29:21.776 --> 01:29:27.330
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, interesting thing here, Jeremy, we're going into the storyline part of it here, not no politics involved, but both men.

01:29:27.310 --> 01:29:30.337
[SPEAKER_00]: say that the titles are not being unified.

01:29:30.457 --> 01:29:31.599
[SPEAKER_00]: That's an important distinction.

01:29:31.659 --> 01:29:40.539
[SPEAKER_00]: I thought, as soon as you says he wants to restore the original IWGP lineage, yes, please, it should be part of the same lineage.

01:29:40.559 --> 01:29:43.986
[SPEAKER_00]: And both want to defend the titles separately.

01:29:43.966 --> 01:29:45.748
[SPEAKER_00]: So the global title isn't vanishing.

01:29:46.029 --> 01:29:47.150
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what you do with it.

01:29:47.250 --> 01:29:52.417
[SPEAKER_00]: If one guy holds to him, if the global title is only defended, if you're not in Japan, I don't know.

01:29:52.437 --> 01:29:59.366
[SPEAKER_00]: But the key is they're apparently not getting rid of the global title like they got rid of the intercontinental title, which they never should have done.

01:29:59.767 --> 01:30:06.736
[SPEAKER_00]: And if there's one thing in New Japan, we wish we could go back in time and Bill and Ted, this whole thing or whatever else.

01:30:06.796 --> 01:30:07.917
[SPEAKER_00]: It was that a time travel thing.

01:30:07.978 --> 01:30:09.079
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm messing up.

01:30:09.059 --> 01:30:15.636
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, but if you could just go back and time and fix something from the past, maybe not going to that was a no you you're you're okay.

01:30:15.656 --> 01:30:16.337
[SPEAKER_00]: You got that.

01:30:17.039 --> 01:30:25.380
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's take that little part of Coda bushy that wanted to unify the tiles just pluck it out of his brain just never mind that we didn't we didn't double dash.

01:30:26.018 --> 01:30:26.719
[SPEAKER_00]: We didn't do that.

01:30:26.779 --> 01:30:33.106
[SPEAKER_00]: We, we had, instead, what we did was we had a code of abushi, won the World Title and he vacated the Intercontinental Title.

01:30:33.126 --> 01:30:37.391
[SPEAKER_00]: We had a tournament for it and it's been healthy ever since because that's what we all really want, isn't it?

01:30:37.451 --> 01:30:47.723
[SPEAKER_00]: Is that, that Intercontinental Title that Nakamura and Naito made special and Tanehashi back in, in prominence, the global title is the closest thing since I think they've, that

01:30:47.703 --> 01:30:51.189
[SPEAKER_00]: Suji and David Finlay did a good job of getting that belt over.

01:30:51.229 --> 01:30:52.251
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want them to go away.

01:30:53.133 --> 01:30:55.377
[SPEAKER_00]: So they need an underneath title.

01:30:55.397 --> 01:30:58.923
[SPEAKER_00]: One of the things that has helped, that has helped Suji, not the booking.

01:30:59.444 --> 01:31:05.275
[SPEAKER_00]: And help Finlay is just that we got used to seeing those guys with a major championship around their waist that wasn't the world title.

01:31:05.575 --> 01:31:07.138
[SPEAKER_00]: It's something else to fight over.

01:31:07.298 --> 01:31:11.466
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's something else to make a guy look like he's

01:31:11.446 --> 01:31:21.203
[SPEAKER_00]: A star and then they would have looked like stars anyway, but it never hurts to have that underneath title to get you used to guys being in main event title matches.

01:31:21.233 --> 01:31:25.800
[SPEAKER_00]: And then all of a sudden when they're in the heavyweight title match, it's a smoother transition.

01:31:25.820 --> 01:31:27.422
[SPEAKER_00]: You can still get guys there without it.

01:31:27.482 --> 01:31:28.664
[SPEAKER_00]: But it helps.

01:31:28.885 --> 01:31:30.627
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a nice tool to have in the toolbox.

01:31:30.968 --> 01:31:39.661
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm glad to hear that the global title isn't vanishing into ether after a rest of came after they've done all the machinations with the US title and the great.

01:31:40.102 --> 01:31:40.442
[SPEAKER_00]: What is it?

01:31:40.462 --> 01:31:44.288
[SPEAKER_00]: The, the, the, the, not the, the, the, the, the name at the intercontinental title again.

01:31:45.095 --> 01:31:45.395
[SPEAKER_00]: got.

01:31:45.636 --> 01:31:48.701
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, one that, like, I spray turned it into the great Britain title.

01:31:48.741 --> 01:31:50.944
[SPEAKER_01]: It was the day they got it.

01:31:51.164 --> 01:31:53.368
[SPEAKER_01]: And then it, then they had a US title.

01:31:53.548 --> 01:31:55.511
[SPEAKER_01]: And then it got turned into a UK title.

01:31:56.092 --> 01:31:58.175
[SPEAKER_01]: And then, then, we turned it into the global title.

01:31:58.836 --> 01:32:02.402
[SPEAKER_01]: And then, we've had the global title for two years now.

01:32:03.103 --> 01:32:07.931
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we held it for the 2024 after all, spray left and mocked clean off spray.

01:32:08.512 --> 01:32:13.279
[SPEAKER_01]: And then, we had the

01:32:13.259 --> 01:32:18.085
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's been around for a while, but it's got the white strap now.

01:32:18.465 --> 01:32:20.368
[SPEAKER_01]: It's the intercontinental time.

01:32:20.388 --> 01:32:22.390
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:32:22.410 --> 01:32:22.570
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:32:22.591 --> 01:32:22.751
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:32:22.931 --> 01:32:25.955
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's basically everything about what night oh through around the ring.

01:32:25.975 --> 01:32:29.439
[SPEAKER_01]: It's got, it's got the same time on it might flow.

01:32:29.459 --> 01:32:31.341
[SPEAKER_00]: Not the same lineage and it could be, right?

01:32:31.842 --> 01:32:32.823
[SPEAKER_00]: It could be.

01:32:32.843 --> 01:32:34.045
[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, our vertex is on this.

01:32:34.505 --> 01:32:37.309
[SPEAKER_00]: We wouldn't be true wrestling fans if we didn't find the politics entertaining.

01:32:37.349 --> 01:32:39.952
[SPEAKER_01]: But I come to the straw but come talk to bad.

01:32:40.212 --> 01:32:40.853
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just like, why?

01:32:42.352 --> 01:32:49.318
[SPEAKER_00]: Seriously, though, Jeremy, among us hard course, the true biggest pay per view and wrestling history would be to listen in on those conference calls.

01:32:50.019 --> 01:33:02.811
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I don't know if they just put the, well, we'll have the audience from the calls between Tony Khan, the New Japan offices, and WWE, and we're gonna put all those together, and it'll be a hundred dollars, and you can listen to them uncensored and uncut.

01:33:03.712 --> 01:33:06.174
[SPEAKER_00]: Every single one of us be showing out the money to listen in on that.

01:33:06.214 --> 01:33:06.534
[SPEAKER_00]: Wouldn't we?

01:33:06.574 --> 01:33:07.736
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that would be fascinating.

01:33:08.316 --> 01:33:09.577
[SPEAKER_00]: Let me ask you something.

01:33:09.597 --> 01:33:10.418
[SPEAKER_00]: Right here.

01:33:10.988 --> 01:33:14.280
[SPEAKER_01]: Who wins that match, who do you care to catch them?

01:33:14.300 --> 01:33:15.624
[SPEAKER_00]: Who wins the match at Russell Kingdom?

01:33:17.170 --> 01:33:19.558
[SPEAKER_00]: Who, oh boy, well, who should and who will.

01:33:19.799 --> 01:33:21.204
[SPEAKER_01]: Who do you think wins that match?

01:33:21.305 --> 01:33:23.412
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm asking you, who do you think wins that match?

01:33:23.527 --> 01:33:42.177
[SPEAKER_00]: I think what they should do and will do right now is Yota Suji rescues the title from the outsider to Claire himself the next I've got New Japan follow me everybody and I think that that is the story they should and will

01:33:42.157 --> 01:33:42.618
[SPEAKER_00]: Tell.

01:33:42.818 --> 01:33:47.466
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think there's a ton of benefits in having to cash to go forward.

01:33:47.926 --> 01:33:56.180
[SPEAKER_00]: And I definitely do not think there's benefit to New Japan to see Yoda Suji fail on the biggest stage after all this.

01:33:56.541 --> 01:33:57.763
[SPEAKER_01]: Don't worry that goes.

01:33:57.983 --> 01:33:59.305
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, let's get out then.

01:33:59.453 --> 01:34:00.014
[SPEAKER_01]: Me too.

01:34:00.594 --> 01:34:03.999
[SPEAKER_01]: I am looking at this and I can't fail here.

01:34:04.339 --> 01:34:28.228
[SPEAKER_01]: One guy with the world title and you have one guy with the midcard title and they're both coming up there and saying we're going to fight for the and we'll both put this on the one.

01:34:29.238 --> 01:34:43.419
[SPEAKER_01]: He's going to drop the title so that Yoda Suji, who's never won a world title, will then walk around, trading with two belts when he's never had the victory of winning one world title in the first place.

01:34:44.040 --> 01:34:48.647
[SPEAKER_01]: And feels like you're skipping a number of steps if you have Suji won this match.

01:34:49.302 --> 01:34:50.424
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I don't agree with that.

01:34:50.785 --> 01:34:52.908
[SPEAKER_00]: I think, you know, he won the global title.

01:34:52.928 --> 01:34:54.311
[SPEAKER_00]: He's held the global title before.

01:34:55.373 --> 01:34:58.478
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that he is, he's bringing home.

01:34:58.538 --> 01:34:59.520
[SPEAKER_00]: He's the underneath champion.

01:34:59.560 --> 01:34:59.720
[SPEAKER_00]: Look.

01:35:00.261 --> 01:35:02.786
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, God, going way back again.

01:35:02.826 --> 01:35:06.312
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm so old, but ultimate warrior was the intercontinental champion.

01:35:06.432 --> 01:35:10.399
[SPEAKER_01]: I told him and he wanted me to topple then I could think of it.

01:35:11.324 --> 01:35:16.389
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it was only a mistake because the warrior was a nut job, story line wise, it was solid.

01:35:16.829 --> 01:35:19.251
[SPEAKER_00]: And of course, Hogan's ego wasn't going to let it get over.

01:35:19.311 --> 01:35:22.654
[SPEAKER_00]: But for Suji, he has to win.

01:35:22.714 --> 01:35:24.036
[SPEAKER_00]: If he loses again, it's over.

01:35:24.076 --> 01:35:32.683
[SPEAKER_00]: You're going to say he wins the global title, and he's basically like one and done, like one successful defense, and then it's over, it doesn't make sense.

01:35:33.004 --> 01:35:34.926
[SPEAKER_00]: And again, he's toe-staffed to that.

01:35:35.006 --> 01:35:38.749
[SPEAKER_00]: It's just like another major failure.

01:35:39.100 --> 01:35:45.162
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, and what's the benefit of having a catcher, but I honestly don't think the food you'd win in the match.

01:35:47.268 --> 01:35:49.251
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, maybe not, he might not.

01:35:49.351 --> 01:35:49.932
[SPEAKER_00]: I won't.

01:35:50.553 --> 01:35:57.524
[SPEAKER_00]: I will never discount New Japan screwing up, but it would be a screw up to not have to have him do all this.

01:35:58.265 --> 01:35:59.827
[SPEAKER_00]: Think about what he has said lately.

01:35:59.907 --> 01:36:01.990
[SPEAKER_00]: It's just like, we've new Japan to me.

01:36:02.030 --> 01:36:08.580
[SPEAKER_00]: And then for him to go up and fail after having said that, there's, it means like, oh, no, there's no coming back from it.

01:36:08.600 --> 01:36:10.423
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, there's just nothing

01:36:10.403 --> 01:36:13.706
[SPEAKER_00]: Left he's he's just failed at the biggest thing again.

01:36:14.027 --> 01:36:16.409
[SPEAKER_00]: It means you're just not going with anybody new again.

01:36:16.549 --> 01:36:25.018
[SPEAKER_00]: And then they just We're waiting for Takeshita to be done goofing off with AEW and comes over full time, but when we don't know when that's going to happen.

01:36:25.098 --> 01:36:28.281
[SPEAKER_01]: But I don't think it's the right play.

01:36:28.441 --> 01:36:35.128
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think if You have to cash it over tating and then ton of horses retiring.

01:36:35.362 --> 01:36:47.437
[SPEAKER_01]: You better have Tana Hachi retiring close in the show because Tana Hachi isn't closing and then to kill that like, you know, that is a fusion that killed the crop, you have killed the evening.

01:36:48.258 --> 01:36:52.643
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't, I don't trust them to make the right decision, but the only right decisions you have to assume you're coming through.

01:36:52.663 --> 01:37:03.276
[SPEAKER_01]: I agree, but I, I'm reading the room here and it just doesn't feel like they're done with Takeshita Tom.

01:37:03.897 --> 01:37:05.679
[SPEAKER_00]: No, and they don't have to be.

01:37:05.779 --> 01:37:10.204
[SPEAKER_00]: He can come back and he can come back on Suji and that could happen.

01:37:10.224 --> 01:37:21.117
[SPEAKER_00]: But I think for that night in that circumstance on national television, remember, national television for the first time and who knows how, first time in the rest of the kingdom era, this show is on national television.

01:37:21.898 --> 01:37:25.382
[SPEAKER_00]: For them to say, here's our guy, oh, he lost.

01:37:26.240 --> 01:37:28.783
[SPEAKER_00]: Wrong message, just a wrong message to send.

01:37:29.564 --> 01:37:30.585
[SPEAKER_00]: Wrong message to send.

01:37:30.665 --> 01:37:34.110
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, the whole word, you know, I'm uniting the wrestling world.

01:37:34.530 --> 01:37:48.467
[SPEAKER_01]: I would legitimately see a moment from the end of December through the beginning of January where the cash show went to three to he beat Kokata and then he go ahead and he went at record kingdom and he has just on top of them.

01:37:49.612 --> 01:37:51.916
[SPEAKER_00]: I just don't see how that doesn't benefit New Japan.

01:37:52.076 --> 01:37:54.700
[SPEAKER_00]: They need that they need a guy that the people believe in full time.

01:37:54.760 --> 01:37:55.081
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

01:37:55.161 --> 01:37:58.346
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's it, Dr. Kate, you absolutely need Dr. Murrah.

01:37:58.366 --> 01:38:01.751
[SPEAKER_00]: Pull in the EF time to argue about this going ahead.

01:38:02.612 --> 01:38:03.293
[SPEAKER_00]: This week ahead.

01:38:03.854 --> 01:38:06.338
[SPEAKER_00]: There's a show on Saturday, November 8th, and Angio.

01:38:06.942 --> 01:38:11.871
[SPEAKER_00]: And that is the Perushtana Hashi Udo ice main event match.

01:38:12.292 --> 01:38:22.150
[SPEAKER_00]: And it also has an ever open weight six man tag team titles with Masterwato, Yo, and Torugiano defending against Dictogo, Yoshinobu kind of Maro, and Evil.

01:38:22.957 --> 01:38:23.918
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't care who wins.

01:38:24.799 --> 01:38:28.063
[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, that's the Anjo show on Saturday, November 8th.

01:38:28.103 --> 01:38:33.048
[SPEAKER_00]: And we could have a little bit of clarity on what they're doing with Tana Hashie.

01:38:33.088 --> 01:38:34.570
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe, maybe not, who knows?

01:38:35.071 --> 01:38:38.695
[SPEAKER_00]: And then we have the teams for World Tag League.

01:38:38.715 --> 01:38:40.256
[SPEAKER_00]: Those have been announced as well.

01:38:40.276 --> 01:38:41.438
[SPEAKER_00]: Should we bring those up, Jeremy?

01:38:41.458 --> 01:38:42.999
[SPEAKER_00]: And go over that.

01:38:43.020 --> 01:38:44.521
[SPEAKER_00]: You're going to be doing a preview next week.

01:38:44.581 --> 01:38:45.382
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm off next week.

01:38:45.502 --> 01:38:47.745
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to be on a track line.

01:38:47.785 --> 01:38:49.707
[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to do the preview on the 19th.

01:38:50.429 --> 01:38:54.393
[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to be talking about the purge, so next week.

01:38:54.413 --> 01:38:55.153
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, fair enough.

01:38:55.174 --> 01:38:56.555
[SPEAKER_01]: So we will have our preview.

01:38:58.637 --> 01:39:00.519
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll do our preview when you get back.

01:39:00.539 --> 01:39:03.842
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, that'll be the first night of action, the 20 years.

01:39:03.882 --> 01:39:05.003
[SPEAKER_00]: The following Thursday.

01:39:05.343 --> 01:39:07.485
[SPEAKER_00]: So it'll be the first night of action and then we'll look at the league.

01:39:07.505 --> 01:39:10.888
[SPEAKER_00]: So let's take a look at the teams in it, though, if you know my I'm bringing those up, we of course have.

01:39:11.489 --> 01:39:17.214
[SPEAKER_00]: The classic multiple time winner, Bishaman, hero Kigoto, and Yoshi Hashie, one of the very best teams in the world.

01:39:17.995 --> 01:39:18.816
[SPEAKER_01]: My favorite to win.

01:39:19.893 --> 01:39:21.723
[SPEAKER_00]: Toruiano and Bolton Oleg.

01:39:22.427 --> 01:39:25.161
[SPEAKER_01]: A durable, adorable, hauntie crowd.

01:39:26.474 --> 01:39:29.658
[SPEAKER_00]: An interesting one, Yoda, Suji, and Gabe Kid.

01:39:30.078 --> 01:39:37.888
[SPEAKER_00]: So this is, they're not gonna wanna beat Suji much be going into this and in fact, I will say that they're not gonna beat Suji at all.

01:39:38.228 --> 01:39:47.840
[SPEAKER_00]: So I think this team is going to do well, but it's gonna be Gabe that eats the pins because they might have a feeling and gonna be no Gabe in 2026 or much of him in 2026 in New Japan.

01:39:47.880 --> 01:39:51.845
[SPEAKER_00]: So I have a feeling this will be Gabe but putting some people over, but this team's gonna do well.

01:39:51.865 --> 01:39:53.106
[SPEAKER_00]: They're gonna score a lot of points.

01:39:53.474 --> 01:40:05.084
[SPEAKER_01]: relative fan service pairing, you know, if something that you're going to do before they're gone, and seem pretty clear, Gabe doesn't have a whole lot of plans through the rest of his time there, you know, looks he dropped that title to the handshake and all that.

01:40:06.225 --> 01:40:13.171
[SPEAKER_01]: I know a lot of people were like, was you just wrap up Gabe after that one thing, but I'm kind of here for these two feet now.

01:40:13.191 --> 01:40:15.233
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, no, I like the idea of the team.

01:40:15.773 --> 01:40:19.456
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, it's like you said it's something for interesting for Gabe to do is things wind up.

01:40:19.957 --> 01:40:22.519
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they're not going to win or anything.

01:40:23.917 --> 01:40:48.186
[SPEAKER_01]: evil and bad luck folly okay don't follow excuse me don't follow yeah it's our bad luck you know what you're getting out of these matches we all know what we're getting out of these matches yeah shenanigans and there's a couple other teams like that too that's a very kind way of putting it that's some of our

01:40:48.655 --> 01:40:50.258
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so here's one now.

01:40:51.100 --> 01:40:55.789
[SPEAKER_00]: Someone here on ECE was injured and he is out for world tagly, unfortunately.

01:40:55.809 --> 01:40:57.572
[SPEAKER_00]: So he was going to team with Tahichi.

01:40:58.053 --> 01:40:59.937
[SPEAKER_00]: Unfortunately, like I said, can't do it.

01:40:59.957 --> 01:41:02.202
[SPEAKER_00]: He has teaming up with Satoshi Kojima.

01:41:02.222 --> 01:41:07.492
[SPEAKER_00]: So there is that subplot going on that years and years ago, Tahichi turned on Kojima.

01:41:07.953 --> 01:41:11.119
[SPEAKER_00]: Kojima was open to

01:41:11.099 --> 01:41:21.458
[SPEAKER_00]: reuniting with Taichi and they did a whole bunch of matches we're on the same team but didn't get along and Taichi was still a little bitter toward him and Kojima was like, you turned on me, what's the problem?

01:41:21.478 --> 01:41:25.225
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm willing to forgive and Taichi, you forgot what you did, know that.

01:41:25.886 --> 01:41:26.728
[SPEAKER_00]: So,

01:41:26.708 --> 01:41:28.811
[SPEAKER_00]: Here, we're going to throw these two back together again.

01:41:29.732 --> 01:41:30.533
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, exactly.

01:41:30.573 --> 01:41:32.475
[SPEAKER_00]: So of course, they're not going to win the tournament.

01:41:32.495 --> 01:41:33.997
[SPEAKER_00]: Coach, I'm just probably going to take some losses.

01:41:34.137 --> 01:41:39.684
[SPEAKER_00]: But the subs plot here will probably be these two finally making peace in a big way by the end of it.

01:41:39.704 --> 01:41:40.205
[SPEAKER_00]: I would imagine.

01:41:40.225 --> 01:41:50.117
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm glad they managed to make a lemonade out of the dislocated right shoulder that if you had, I was so annoyed when I saw that lion mark.

01:41:50.992 --> 01:41:57.208
[SPEAKER_01]: down to that she had a shorter, he's going to be out to like February, you know, those shoulders.

01:41:58.291 --> 01:42:01.660
[SPEAKER_01]: That's not, that's not a, you're, you're right back to it kind of thing.

01:42:01.680 --> 01:42:02.402
[SPEAKER_01]: So.

01:42:03.142 --> 01:42:03.743
[SPEAKER_01]: real bomber.

01:42:04.183 --> 01:42:11.514
[SPEAKER_01]: I think this is a fine fine substitution now that you've added all the the back story to it.

01:42:11.534 --> 01:42:13.516
[SPEAKER_01]: And boy, yeah, that would be a team.

01:42:13.536 --> 01:42:18.824
[SPEAKER_00]: Tony's going to have to duck into catering to find one of the 60 people hanging around there to throw into a random six man tag.

01:42:18.864 --> 01:42:19.545
[SPEAKER_00]: That's what he sees.

01:42:19.605 --> 01:42:23.310
[SPEAKER_01]: I think cooperation in which he can use.

01:42:23.290 --> 01:42:24.392
[SPEAKER_00]: after that.

01:42:25.654 --> 01:42:29.901
[SPEAKER_00]: After that we have, uh, uh, it was a, okay.

01:42:30.121 --> 01:42:34.729
[SPEAKER_00]: Now this is Desperado and, uh, do you have the guys, do you have this guy's name here, Jeremy?

01:42:34.829 --> 01:42:36.452
[SPEAKER_00]: I, I just realized pretty real quick.

01:42:36.832 --> 01:42:37.834
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't have it in front of me.

01:42:38.114 --> 01:42:42.261
[SPEAKER_00]: He's an all-japan wrestler and I'm blanking here on the live show, dug on it, Steven.

01:42:42.848 --> 01:42:44.130
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, let me shoot you.

01:42:44.150 --> 01:42:44.952
[SPEAKER_00]: It's your Kawah.

01:42:45.092 --> 01:42:46.194
[SPEAKER_00]: You're going to use the Kawah.

01:42:46.214 --> 01:42:46.815
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, my gosh.

01:42:46.835 --> 01:42:47.476
[SPEAKER_00]: That's embarrassing.

01:42:47.837 --> 01:42:49.780
[SPEAKER_00]: Sorry about that, shoot you.

01:42:49.801 --> 01:42:52.726
[SPEAKER_00]: This guy's been a star for all Japan in the past.

01:42:52.766 --> 01:42:55.090
[SPEAKER_00]: The whole story here is your Kawah.

01:42:55.110 --> 01:42:56.432
[SPEAKER_00]: Gosh, come on, Steven.

01:42:57.715 --> 01:42:58.897
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know why I blanked that.

01:42:58.917 --> 01:43:00.279
[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, desperate.

01:43:00.299 --> 01:43:00.860
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't say that.

01:43:00.880 --> 01:43:01.441
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't say that.

01:43:01.742 --> 01:43:03.405
[SPEAKER_01]: Don't be so hard on yourself.

01:43:03.571 --> 01:43:31.182
[SPEAKER_00]: Desperado said that a really huge wrestler challenged him to a match and he said instead of wrestling each other how about we team up instead and they seem to have come to a compromise So this is the junior heavyweight teaming with a pretty big dude heavyweight odd couple team here going in and then of course Heromo one last year with a heavyweight Desperado picking up a heavyweight opponent here to try to win world tagling

01:43:31.617 --> 01:43:46.657
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm going to welcome my mind, the ability of Desperado to basically have like a completely B.F. like version of like a team up just to keep a self busy and then it should work every time.

01:43:48.119 --> 01:43:48.920
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

01:43:48.940 --> 01:43:51.603
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

01:43:51.623 --> 01:43:54.427
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you're going to go to Kagi and drill a maloney.

01:43:54.467 --> 01:43:57.030
[SPEAKER_00]: This could be this could be a great team.

01:43:57.271 --> 01:43:59.734
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think this is a team that could really have great matches.

01:44:00.524 --> 01:44:04.288
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll tell you what, I'm looking forward to this versus Gabe and Yoda.

01:44:05.069 --> 01:44:05.810
[SPEAKER_00]: Happening early.

01:44:05.990 --> 01:44:07.111
[SPEAKER_00]: Happening early, I think it's the first night.

01:44:07.872 --> 01:44:14.599
[SPEAKER_01]: Heck yeah, Heck yeah, that maybe somebody will get injured and they have to force them out there.

01:44:14.619 --> 01:44:19.344
[SPEAKER_00]: I think the first night of A block wrestling is these two against Gabe and Suji.

01:44:19.364 --> 01:44:21.426
[SPEAKER_00]: I think we also get the House of Tortured Darby, too.

01:44:21.506 --> 01:44:23.068
[SPEAKER_01]: House of Tortured Darby, House of Tortured Darby.

01:44:23.088 --> 01:44:24.309
[SPEAKER_01]: Can't wait for that crap.

01:44:25.971 --> 01:44:26.071
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:44:26.091 --> 01:44:27.072
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, after that.

01:44:27.659 --> 01:44:57.345
[SPEAKER_01]: uh... speak of the devil's shell here uh... you drew a talk of how she and chase all of oh god uh... he's got some heartbreak kid looking vibe going there with uh... chase all uh... they've been uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh...

01:44:57.325 --> 01:45:16.175
[SPEAKER_01]: For that video, where he did a Cairo on video and it turned out he was being led on the pony on the horse by a guy with a rope and he never got it's a mystery to me because Shawn Michaels is from San Antonio and he is a Texan.

01:45:16.195 --> 01:45:20.582
[SPEAKER_00]: He really is and when I see him in cowboy boots in a cowboy hat,

01:45:20.798 --> 01:45:30.567
[SPEAKER_00]: The guys that come here for South by Southwest and spend $3,000 at Tacobas on costume cowboy year, look more authentic than he does somehow.

01:45:30.587 --> 01:45:31.748
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I don't understand.

01:45:31.828 --> 01:45:32.849
[SPEAKER_00]: He's from San Antonio.

01:45:32.869 --> 01:45:35.531
[SPEAKER_00]: How does he look that goofy?

01:45:35.551 --> 01:45:36.011
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

01:45:36.192 --> 01:45:36.712
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, he doesn't.

01:45:37.092 --> 01:45:39.394
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know how Shawn Michaels looks that goofy as a Texan.

01:45:39.414 --> 01:45:42.337
[SPEAKER_01]: When he's a Texan, you're making a lot of friends today.

01:45:42.477 --> 01:45:43.618
[SPEAKER_01]: Got a telly here.

01:45:43.638 --> 01:45:44.699
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't care.

01:45:44.719 --> 01:45:45.360
[SPEAKER_00]: I just don't.

01:45:45.800 --> 01:45:48.122
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, next we have you know, I've got a lot of friends.

01:45:48.282 --> 01:45:49.303
[SPEAKER_01]: The knockout brothers.

01:45:49.537 --> 01:45:55.446
[SPEAKER_00]: The knockout brothers, you know ice and and you don't knock a sheema, you know ice isn't you gonna knock a sheema and Oscar.

01:45:55.466 --> 01:46:09.268
[SPEAKER_00]: This is of course They're the tag team champions are gonna do very well in the tournaments and I don't imagine they're gonna be in the finals I don't see them beaten these guys unless they absolutely 100% have to maybe like one or two losses Count early and I'll tell you what I would do it.

01:46:09.288 --> 01:46:09.769
[SPEAKER_00]: I would do it.

01:46:09.929 --> 01:46:10.370
[SPEAKER_00]: I would do it.

01:46:10.430 --> 01:46:10.911
[SPEAKER_00]: I would do it.

01:46:10.931 --> 01:46:15.599
[SPEAKER_00]: This countouts or something like that I don't pin these guys unless I don't out and just qualification.

01:46:16.360 --> 01:46:17.181
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

01:46:17.380 --> 01:46:20.244
[SPEAKER_00]: Do some like that WQs or something like that get some stuff thrown out.

01:46:20.304 --> 01:46:25.412
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, have them beat somebody that's so bad that they could have qualified.

01:46:25.432 --> 01:46:26.934
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, next.

01:46:26.954 --> 01:46:29.097
[SPEAKER_00]: Zach Saber Jr. and Rio Heo Ewa.

01:46:29.518 --> 01:46:32.262
[SPEAKER_00]: This will be a terrific working tag team, of course.

01:46:33.063 --> 01:46:35.847
[SPEAKER_00]: But OE was going to eat some pins in this one.

01:46:35.867 --> 01:46:43.759
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so there's going to be a block and the people are here to work right block and the a block is the, huh, that should be interesting block.

01:46:43.992 --> 01:46:45.559
[SPEAKER_00]: It's the personality story block.

01:46:45.579 --> 01:46:45.940
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:46:45.960 --> 01:46:47.145
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:46:47.888 --> 01:46:48.912
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm looking forward to the team.

01:46:49.254 --> 01:46:50.780
[SPEAKER_01]: They've been together before.

01:46:51.182 --> 01:46:51.825
[SPEAKER_01]: They're great.

01:46:51.845 --> 01:46:52.648
[SPEAKER_01]: They work well together.

01:46:52.708 --> 01:46:54.576
[SPEAKER_01]: TMDK not much more than you said.

01:46:55.737 --> 01:46:57.138
[SPEAKER_00]: Monster sauce.

01:46:57.158 --> 01:46:59.721
[SPEAKER_00]: Monster sauce back Alex saying and Lance Archer.

01:46:59.761 --> 01:47:00.622
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm happy about this.

01:47:00.702 --> 01:47:01.603
[SPEAKER_00]: I like both these guys.

01:47:02.124 --> 01:47:04.646
[SPEAKER_00]: I thought they worked well together the last time we saw them.

01:47:04.846 --> 01:47:24.647
[SPEAKER_00]: I just haven't seen them in a minute, but I'm a big, uh,

01:47:25.049 --> 01:47:26.211
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, watch this thing.

01:47:26.271 --> 01:47:32.263
[SPEAKER_01]: It's canonical with Calh family, so I'm kind of thinking they might be on a more healish this year.

01:47:32.283 --> 01:47:35.248
[SPEAKER_00]: Even if they come out healish, I think people are going to cheer for them.

01:47:35.268 --> 01:47:36.290
[SPEAKER_00]: I just think they like him now.

01:47:39.536 --> 01:47:42.602
[SPEAKER_00]: We need a few heal teams to talk, they might be healers.

01:47:42.734 --> 01:47:56.793
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and here we go with Tana Hashie and Elfantasma, of course, the the serious version of this storyline that they were supposed to team together before, but the cancer scare from Elfantasma, he was unable to participate in the tournament.

01:47:56.853 --> 01:48:01.159
[SPEAKER_00]: So here's their chance to be a team which they had intended to do in the first place.

01:48:02.580 --> 01:48:03.021
[SPEAKER_01]: I

01:48:03.929 --> 01:48:07.537
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know why I just thought about this, both the sense of humor of ELP.

01:48:08.740 --> 01:48:12.629
[SPEAKER_01]: They should have a shirt with Tana Hashin ELP, just as three balls on it.

01:48:12.649 --> 01:48:13.631
[SPEAKER_00]: I knew you were going there.

01:48:13.651 --> 01:48:15.154
[SPEAKER_00]: I knew it.

01:48:15.174 --> 01:48:16.016
[SPEAKER_00]: I knew you were going there.

01:48:16.036 --> 01:48:16.718
[SPEAKER_00]: I knew it.

01:48:16.818 --> 01:48:17.860
[UNKNOWN]: I know.

01:48:19.003 --> 01:48:21.769
[SPEAKER_01]: He would totally do it too, and it would probably sell.

01:48:22.492 --> 01:48:26.957
[SPEAKER_00]: Next, you, yeah, we more and show to Umano.

01:48:27.077 --> 01:48:32.243
[SPEAKER_00]: So this is again, the team that we expect something to come out of this by the end of it.

01:48:32.283 --> 01:48:32.964
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe an angle.

01:48:33.024 --> 01:48:34.646
[SPEAKER_00]: We're hoping we're trying to manifest it.

01:48:34.906 --> 01:48:37.148
[SPEAKER_01]: Please, please, I beg you.

01:48:38.850 --> 01:48:43.916
[SPEAKER_00]: What more need to be said in that next.

01:48:43.936 --> 01:48:47.520
[SPEAKER_00]: David Finlay and Heromo Chaka Hashie, the ultimate odd couple team here.

01:48:48.800 --> 01:49:00.559
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, we're right back to her room and get her room and finally, maybe this time it's her own way of taking all the pigs in this one while thinly, it's just like, what are you doing?

01:49:00.579 --> 01:49:11.837
[SPEAKER_01]: Bro, and yeah, I'm curious to see what this leads to for them after World Tag League because this, um,

01:49:12.796 --> 01:49:18.651
[SPEAKER_01]: It feels cute, but it doesn't, what I hope that there's something long term has this.

01:49:18.931 --> 01:49:22.901
[SPEAKER_01]: I like ghetto and aroma, I would like to continue this.

01:49:25.347 --> 01:49:25.448
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

01:49:25.468 --> 01:49:28.375
[SPEAKER_00]: Next up, we have Great O'Con and Callum Newman.

01:49:29.873 --> 01:49:37.465
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we talked about Kalon Newman earlier and he's developing that kind of wicked streak and you know, an empire being a little bit dead on arrival.

01:49:37.946 --> 01:49:40.369
[SPEAKER_01]: This is an opportunity for them to show up and show out.

01:49:40.770 --> 01:49:48.302
[SPEAKER_01]: But at the same time, this doesn't, this also isn't like a time of huge focus for people paying attention to the New Japan product.

01:49:48.722 --> 01:49:57.636
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's kind of a balance of laying the groundwork, but maybe not delivering the final angle during these shows.

01:50:05.176 --> 01:50:06.361
[SPEAKER_00]: or you made it out of it.

01:50:06.644 --> 01:50:07.565
[SPEAKER_00]: I was muted for a moment.

01:50:08.406 --> 01:50:10.589
[SPEAKER_00]: After that, we have a house torture team that's our third one.

01:50:10.669 --> 01:50:12.432
[SPEAKER_00]: It's Senata and Ren Narita.

01:50:12.492 --> 01:50:16.017
[SPEAKER_00]: We haven't seen much of Narita at all since Distraction and Kobe.

01:50:16.778 --> 01:50:20.523
[SPEAKER_00]: And of course, Senata, we just, against Drill and Maloney right there.

01:50:20.623 --> 01:50:30.817
[SPEAKER_00]: So a team that will probably do okay in the tournament, but I don't really, I guess you could make them a factor in the league, just through the cheating and all that stuff.

01:50:30.837 --> 01:50:35.503
[SPEAKER_00]: But these are two guys who seem to be just kind of hovering around the midcard a little bit.

01:50:36.277 --> 01:50:53.443
[SPEAKER_01]: I think these are going to be the guys that maybe end up costing some of the baby face team with the opportunity to move forward, like they're the spoiler team for some of the other side, you know, to make the math equal out.

01:50:54.504 --> 01:50:58.250
[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, that's the last team in the block.

01:50:59.031 --> 01:50:59.572
[SPEAKER_01]: Who do you think?

01:50:59.792 --> 01:51:01.575
[SPEAKER_01]: Who do you think ends up winning this block?

01:51:04.070 --> 01:51:05.312
[SPEAKER_00]: in that block.

01:51:05.872 --> 01:51:06.293
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, boy.

01:51:07.014 --> 01:51:08.435
[SPEAKER_00]: That's actually a pretty tough one.

01:51:08.475 --> 01:51:10.158
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not totally sure who wins this.

01:51:10.298 --> 01:51:10.658
[SPEAKER_00]: This one.

01:51:11.079 --> 01:51:14.062
[SPEAKER_00]: I'd have to look at who's wrestling who won the very final night.

01:51:14.102 --> 01:51:19.850
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't have that front of me because I didn't anticipate doing a full preview today just because there are other shows between them and there.

01:51:19.950 --> 01:51:22.973
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, a lot of it doesn't do like the snap judgment.

01:51:23.034 --> 01:51:23.434
[SPEAKER_01]: That's all.

01:51:23.915 --> 01:51:24.956
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't know.

01:51:24.996 --> 01:51:26.618
[SPEAKER_00]: I'd have to look at it over the whole thing.

01:51:27.695 --> 01:51:31.339
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, well, I don't think the knockout brothers would win the block.

01:51:31.919 --> 01:51:33.281
[SPEAKER_00]: I think they might, you know, that's one.

01:51:33.341 --> 01:51:38.386
[SPEAKER_00]: I think they might win the block and go to the finals and lose that that could be, that would be might be their only loss.

01:51:38.706 --> 01:51:44.792
[SPEAKER_00]: The final do what they did with Sanada and the G1 and send them into the playoff, so to speak, and then beat them before you beat them.

01:51:44.812 --> 01:51:45.853
[SPEAKER_00]: That could, that could happen.

01:51:46.054 --> 01:51:46.754
[SPEAKER_00]: That can absolutely happen.

01:51:47.095 --> 01:51:55.423
[SPEAKER_01]: I think the two teams, if it's not them that I would look at are that Saber Jr. in Rio

01:51:56.264 --> 01:52:14.969
[SPEAKER_00]: Showed it in you, uh, is a thought, I think it'll probably come down to that on the last day, uh, I just don't think the company sees a we were at that level yet, I think he's never to know that's not tapering your factor like this is more is that tapering here than it is.

01:52:15.169 --> 01:52:18.313
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, which is why I think we was going to be the one that takes the losses.

01:52:18.533 --> 01:52:23.660
[SPEAKER_00]: And I just think that that probably will take them out of the running because they don't mind beating a we were at the stage.

01:52:23.740 --> 01:52:25.242
[SPEAKER_00]: They just don't seem to mind beating it.

01:52:26.099 --> 01:52:33.708
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, so the other thing we have is, uh, issue more against even more ridiculous once again, or whatever the name of this show is I don't have any of the graphics for this that I don't play on.

01:52:33.728 --> 01:52:35.069
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, there's no match.

01:52:35.229 --> 01:52:36.211
[SPEAKER_00]: There are no matches.

01:52:36.231 --> 01:52:38.834
[SPEAKER_00]: And out there, you can go on the NJPW 1972 website.

01:52:38.874 --> 01:52:42.538
[SPEAKER_00]: There's, you know, and it click on matches and they're right, nothing there.

01:52:43.359 --> 01:52:48.765
[SPEAKER_01]: So we call Fontaine on next week, and we're going to talk about it, and we're both going to shrug our children to say, okay.

01:52:48.931 --> 01:53:07.581
[SPEAKER_00]: So when I return on the 20th on November 20th by then we also the the purge will have happened that the paper view for house a torture their thing that's on the 19th and then on the 20th itself, which is the show two weeks from today first night of block action in the a block.

01:53:07.561 --> 01:53:12.227
[SPEAKER_00]: the rest is going to be in preview matches the A-block will be in a and will be wrestling.

01:53:12.607 --> 01:53:19.736
[SPEAKER_00]: So we will have night one of World Tag League to talk about and then obviously we'll kick around the preview for the whole thing.

01:53:19.776 --> 01:53:25.182
[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to be doing it for like three or four weeks because I think it goes until like December 15th or something like that.

01:53:25.723 --> 01:53:28.506
[SPEAKER_01]: The little half plenty of time to break it down on that rest week.

01:53:28.486 --> 01:53:33.271
[SPEAKER_00]: The shows come pretty fast around Thanksgiving weekend in particular.

01:53:33.331 --> 01:53:40.537
[SPEAKER_00]: Like that middle weekend, there's something like a show on a Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Tuesday, like one of those little bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang runs there.

01:53:40.658 --> 01:53:42.860
[SPEAKER_00]: So there will be plenty of shows in there.

01:53:42.900 --> 01:53:45.802
[SPEAKER_00]: But then there are some off days that spreads it out.

01:53:45.883 --> 01:53:49.526
[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, I think you're right, mid-December's where the finals are taking place.

01:53:49.546 --> 01:53:54.831
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we're going to have to figure out what we want to do for the Thanksgiving week.

01:53:56.566 --> 01:53:58.690
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't want to do a third day show that day.

01:53:58.810 --> 01:53:59.251
[SPEAKER_00]: Cool figure.

01:53:59.732 --> 01:54:11.815
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, well, you know, probably not because it's such a big holiday here and all that, but really, yeah, so December 14th, it looks like is the World Tag League finals in Kumamoto right there.

01:54:12.496 --> 01:54:18.287
[SPEAKER_00]: And we obviously don't know who's going to be in that one, but they'll be in Sendai the night before that.

01:54:18.267 --> 01:54:20.891
[SPEAKER_00]: Road to the Tokyo dome is only a couple of shows.

01:54:20.911 --> 01:54:21.832
[SPEAKER_00]: We're not doing very many.

01:54:22.813 --> 01:54:26.999
[SPEAKER_00]: Gunma, Tochigi, a Corican Hall, Christmas, a Corican.

01:54:27.039 --> 01:54:28.381
[SPEAKER_00]: That's going to be December 20.

01:54:28.961 --> 01:54:30.744
[SPEAKER_00]: Second, just kind of looking ahead to things.

01:54:31.184 --> 01:54:32.286
[SPEAKER_00]: And then that's, that's it.

01:54:32.426 --> 01:54:36.772
[SPEAKER_00]: After December 22nd, the Christmas Corican, then it's the dome.

01:54:36.792 --> 01:54:39.455
[SPEAKER_00]: Then it's a, it's Russell came to me and Japan.

01:54:39.876 --> 01:54:44.342
[SPEAKER_01]: And appearing in the World Tag League, we have two, two teams advancing from each block.

01:54:44.322 --> 01:54:51.191
[SPEAKER_01]: because I was looking into at some of the stuff and they have the A block winner basically that can push B block.

01:54:51.271 --> 01:55:00.784
[SPEAKER_00]: So what I would imagine is I would say, Shota and you probably move into the playoffs and they knock out brother certainly make the playoffs.

01:55:00.864 --> 01:55:03.788
[SPEAKER_00]: I would be stunned, stunned, stunned, right?

01:55:04.389 --> 01:55:07.112
[SPEAKER_00]: That's what they're shooting on and then... Nation man.

01:55:07.934 --> 01:55:10.557
[SPEAKER_00]: I get the you know, shingo and Trello, they might give them a run.

01:55:11.679 --> 01:55:12.760
[SPEAKER_00]: Sure, why not?

01:55:13.313 --> 01:55:15.536
[SPEAKER_00]: They might just look at just looking at the list.

01:55:15.616 --> 01:55:21.004
[SPEAKER_00]: I, there are people that they beat more often in most of the other teams.

01:55:22.586 --> 01:55:24.008
[SPEAKER_00]: Finlay and Heromo's interesting.

01:55:24.248 --> 01:55:26.471
[SPEAKER_00]: Finlay and Heromo might be a dark horse to make the playoffs.

01:55:28.234 --> 01:55:40.030
[SPEAKER_01]: You know who else that wouldn't rule out just because they want their, they're more likely to build for the future on those guys is that Schingo and Drillin might have an outside shot at making the A-block.

01:55:40.550 --> 01:55:42.492
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, total.

01:55:42.512 --> 01:55:43.573
[SPEAKER_01]: Could you go to 30 on a plan?

01:55:44.214 --> 01:55:50.240
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, and if they don't end up like they get squeezed out and drill and shingo, just kind of get the rub of being.

01:55:50.280 --> 01:55:51.662
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's, that's what I just picked.

01:55:51.682 --> 01:55:54.505
[SPEAKER_00]: Drill and shingo along with Bishop on there to come out of that.

01:55:54.545 --> 01:55:55.246
[SPEAKER_00]: That's who I thought.

01:55:56.267 --> 01:55:56.447
[SPEAKER_01]: Good.

01:55:56.467 --> 01:55:56.567
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:55:56.587 --> 01:55:56.687
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

01:55:56.707 --> 01:55:56.927
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

01:55:56.947 --> 01:55:57.768
[SPEAKER_01]: What if we got anything?

01:55:59.170 --> 01:56:02.173
[SPEAKER_00]: No, I don't think so as far as anything else goes.

01:56:02.233 --> 01:56:06.017
[SPEAKER_01]: So obviously, and you thought we were going to go in 90 today.

01:56:07.634 --> 01:56:14.671
[SPEAKER_00]: So I am off next week, Jeremy and Paul Fontaine will be here with you on the 13th bringing up to date on any more announcements.

01:56:14.691 --> 01:56:16.836
[SPEAKER_00]: So of course, I'm going to talk about that intro show, Jeremy.

01:56:16.856 --> 01:56:21.607
[SPEAKER_00]: You're going to have to carry that one and see if we get an announcement, maybe we will.

01:56:21.668 --> 01:56:22.971
[SPEAKER_00]: Hopefully we can talk about it.

01:56:23.311 --> 01:56:24.394
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll be back in two weeks.

01:56:25.403 --> 01:56:26.745
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I will miss you.

01:56:26.765 --> 01:56:31.594
[SPEAKER_01]: I will send you a tent every day asking if you're okay.

01:56:31.694 --> 01:56:32.997
[SPEAKER_01]: Just let me know that you're alive.

01:56:33.698 --> 01:56:36.403
[SPEAKER_01]: And then we'll get back together in two weeks.

01:56:36.704 --> 01:56:41.893
[SPEAKER_01]: And if you have a safety word to tell me that you are in trouble, tell me offline.

01:56:42.987 --> 01:56:43.348
[SPEAKER_00]: enough.

01:56:43.889 --> 01:56:44.250
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

01:56:44.310 --> 01:56:46.675
[SPEAKER_00]: So with that in mind, we're going to say goodbye.

01:56:46.735 --> 01:56:49.561
[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you to everybody who joined us here live on the show.

01:56:49.661 --> 01:56:53.028
[SPEAKER_00]: For those of you who are listening later, we appreciate your time as always.

01:56:53.089 --> 01:56:54.852
[SPEAKER_00]: So for Jeremy Feinstein, I'm Stephen Conway.

01:56:54.892 --> 01:56:58.400
[SPEAKER_00]: This has been speaking of strong style, and we'll talk to you again real soon.

01:56:58.420 --> 01:56:59.242
[SPEAKER_01]: Here you guys later.

01:56:59.302 --> 01:57:00.304
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you, everybody.