Dec. 24, 2025
NJPW Road to Tokyo Dome Review: Tanahashi vs Takahashi & Wrestle Kingdom Lead-up | Speaking of Strong Style
Jeremy Finestone and Steven Conway break down the three Road to Tokyo Dome shows, highlighting the emotional clash between Hiroshi Tanahashi and Hiromu Takahashi. Get the latest analysis on El Desperado, Kosei Fujita, and the final builds for Wrestle Kingdom by visiting Fight Game Media.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Happy holidays to all of you out there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm Stephen Kai with me, of course, Jeremy Feinstown.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is a special edition of Speaking of Strong Style.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We have some important announcements to make and we have some changes to the Wrestle Kingdom card to talk about.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's go ahead and get started.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Welcome everyone to this special holiday edition of Speaking of Strong Style.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to be a bit of a shorter show this week or with our families.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a Christmas here in the wherever you are.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess it is Christmas in, uh, uh, we hope you're enjoying yours if you celebrate.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And even if you don't, I hope you enjoy, uh, a nice day off for the most part as most people are.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, uh, we're going to talk today about the road to the Tokyo Dome show's new Japan had over the course of this past week because they did end up being newsworthy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's an additional match to the rest of Kingdom crowd and we have some clarification on who is going to be in this trio's gauntlet, the never open white six man match and that of course three more matches from Hiroshi town of Hashi we're done just one more so.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But short show today, however, we're going to make it up to you because we have something very special planned for Monday when everybody's kind of getting back in the groove a little bit and Jeremy why don't you tell us about the very special episode of this show that's going to drop this coming Monday the 29th.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Long time no talk, Stephen feel like it was just yesterday that you and I were chatting, but here we are.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We also live here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, some of you have seen on the on our labels for our self that Stephen will hype his website, written that replay and I'll mention that I'm Dave Melkert, paperview watching buddy, Edith Tung and Cheek, what a label and whatever well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: because it's Tonahashi, because it's speaking of strong style, because it's wrestling number 20.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Dave Meltzer actually joined us for almost 90 minutes this week to discuss all day in Tonahashi, anything and everything that we could throw at him, regarding his legacy, his career, what he did for pro wrestling in general.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We tried to cover as much of a broad subject talk about him and why he's so important.
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[SPEAKER_00]: frankly, even what he has made forth in wrestling is more valuable than even what we realize.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we're going to debuse that on Monday.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We were thinking about this week, but the reality is that the week is Pana Hashie retirement.
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[SPEAKER_00]: let's kick it off that way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's just get everybody out there and start it off and who better than Dave Meltzer, who better than Speaker Strongstyle.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we got together.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to put that video up on Monday and that is going to be the special bonus edition before we come back next Thursday with you at another episode.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Jeremy, you'll be in the air when I think drops probably, yeah, I got to do some behind the scene, a little bit of work to kind of goose the goose the whatever YouTube.
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[SPEAKER_00]: stuff to make it hit or whatever.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, but I'm going to make some clips.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to do this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that basically just kind of hope and pray that a lot of people see this and think it's a good interview because honestly Steven, I was really proud of that thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Even though like David Iron Friends professionally, I felt like that was a really good interview.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it was a fun talk.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was a fun talk and you mentioned it touched on a lot of different parts of time of how she's life and career.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We talked a little bit about it is education growing up and talked about it's early days the prime years of course is best rivalries even the challenges that are waiting for him as president when he's no longer an active wrestler cover the whole game and and he said well over an hour with Dave Meltzer the wrestling observer newsletter.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we're excited about that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to drop Monday.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You can look for it in your podcast feed.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you listen to this, the pocket will go right there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you're watching us on YouTube here in the fight game, media networks can be right here, like it always is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So you don't have to do anything special.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's coming to you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But it'll be out on Monday to kick off silly season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I call it right there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's that's the day of Dream Queen to start them first show.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then after that, major major shows DDT, Noah, all Japan.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Marty Gold, everybody's got a major show coming up at TJPW on the fourth.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So whatever you're into, there is, there's something for you that, that we hero in this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Excellent way to kick it off.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, but we had some business to take care of before we get to all that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that were these road two shows here that went around.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And there were, there were three, it was, it was a rather short tour, let me mini tour right there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And the first one was in Taksaki in Gunma.
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[SPEAKER_01]: At the Grand Messet, again, the Grand Messet is those giant airplane hangar type of buildings against community centers, and they're the ones everybody's sitting on one level, there's no bleachers, or anything like that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They drew about 1,300 for this one, the only show that did better.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This year was a G1, a night of the G1.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So once again, people showing up big time for
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[SPEAKER_01]: The end record was nothing really to speak of, but preview text, just preview text.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What you would expect?
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, you're a wrestling, not trying to hurt them so much before a big show, think they did.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, basically.
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[SPEAKER_01]: One thing that was strange, they did two consecutive DQ finishes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: which is extremely rare for New Japan on that show.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They had one where it's not at the BS thing where he fakes getting hit with the guitar and he tossed it to Kojima and the referee bought it, even though the guitar wasn't destroyed.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And disqualify Kojima, the very next match
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[SPEAKER_01]: Calum Newman just waffle everybody with a chair for disqualification in their match because they're sure that Newman is in that Post-giving a crap face Just sometimes in the middle of a match right in front of the referee just wallops the guy with a chair with the idea being I just want to punish my opponents more than I even care about defeating them in these previews So uh strange their Jeremy you don't often get a DQ and New Japan let alone two Consequently and it makes me wonder if it's not a new that they were gonna do that finish the next match
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's possible he did.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's possible he didn't.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's also possible that Newspand like, you know what?
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're this close to the dome.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Get the heat.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You won't get some heat on now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it was fine.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Either way, but I guess that these things are strictly teasers for talk.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Almost unremarkable.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I had to not mention it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But it's just one of those like, it's one of the, one of the, one of the, one of the, one of the, one of the, one of the, one of the
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[SPEAKER_00]: small things that we can comment on because they're really wasn't much to these two shows before we got to the one in Corican.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's more of a trivia question anything else.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we see so few DQs and New Japan.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I would be curious to hear what was the last time there were two on one last show.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let alone two consecutive matches.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I've been in a very, very long time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The final road that night was against her own.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll talk about Hashi and gunshots.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was good, I thought, the twist that Heromo brought into it was doing other people's famous moves to Tanahashi.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So in this one, he used the short arm elbows that Naito used to use to set up the destino.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He used a rainmaker on Tanahashi.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Tanahashi used the clover leaf and Tanahashi used a back on hand, the Texas clover leaf.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He did hit a time bomb 1.5 for a two count.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That got a response out of the crowd there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They were into that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But in the end, it was sort of the town of Hashie version of the three moves of Doom, where he hit Sling Blade, Ace's high-fly flow to win it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was fine.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, parts of this were good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't very long.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Handshake and hugs afterwards.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And what I like too, Jeremy, they showed before each of these matches on this road to tour,
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[SPEAKER_01]: that we're with each guy talking about their history and he saw some pictures of young lion, Hiromu hanging out with a much younger Hiroshi Tanahashi out there and you realize that these guys do go back quite a long way and you know it's a nice one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Tanahashi one of course he's made of any of the dome.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He needs to win.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He needs to look good going into it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But good match.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I call it the I call it the scene of special.
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[SPEAKER_00]: but had Tana Hachi so far in this like final road here, Donna Match were like other people's moves were just over and over and over, like spammed.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I can't recall.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, there are wrestlers.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yo likes using other wrestlers movies.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I don't recall anything with Tanahashi.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I mentioned it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mentioned because the scene of thing, like a lot of these matches that you were doing near the end was he would do the style of clash and he would like you would do as you spear in all these things.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And when you mentioned the stuff that Haromu was doing, that's the first thing that I, you know what I mean?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it just kind of was like, oh, yeah, you're calling back to all these other guys or something poetic.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, but again, we if you do it once you just kind of slip it in there like, oh yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's we're over the guy to the ghost of Tonahashi's past when you're Christmas, however, on it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And here in America, we like to see Easter eggs in American matches.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We say, oh, that was a spot from a New York eat.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Watch this New Japan or, you know, you'll see something like that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It does happen every once in a while.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Guys doing something that's a callback to something we saw on New Japan.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's something that only the hard course would catch.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's fun to kind of remember that that goes both ways, and that the guys in Japan are watching I guess WWE Network still exists in Japan.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not peacock over there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's only in the U.S.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So they're watching the stuff that's going on over here, and they're paying attention to in that vein, by the way, when Cena retired, I don't know if he saw from the Marty Gold feed, but Mayu-Ewattani standing in the ring saying, here's a picture of Mayu with John Cena hashtag can't see him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, in just kind of giving tribute to him as the greatest, which I thought was fun.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, they pay attention to one of the things that New Japan does and their big matches is they'll do a spot with a guy in one match and then two years later or a year and a half later they'll call back to that like
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[SPEAKER_00]: When, when Newspend does it, they don't waste it on like the, the multi-man time because they know that the majority of the audience isn't catching it, they, they make sure that when the most eyes are on it is when they lay down the groundwork for these climactic terms, you know,
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[SPEAKER_00]: the rainmaker being, you know, countered instead of being hit in a match, that kind of thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, God was really good at that in all honesty, was taking those spots and using them to convey a greater sense of drama and tension in a match because you went in a direction that you've never gone before with these two guys.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's very cool.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that was it for that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And afterwards, handshakes and hugs, you know, total sportsmanship on that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: A lot of air guitar, after a lot of air guitar, the crowd did the wave, you know, it's not how she is savoring these fans service moments at the end of each of these people.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Those people really into fields and one of these nights.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: A couple of things happened in the post-match comments.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Tiger Mask mentioned that it is going to be his final Tokyo dome show since he is going to retire next July.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll get more of an tiger mask for legacy as his retirement approaches, but final dome show for a guy that's been around for a very long time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he wanted to be in it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He wanted to be on the show which makes total sense.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Don't keep sick.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He wants to be on the show, but he asked Reeveskate to
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[SPEAKER_01]: And the gauntlet match.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we will see that team Tiger Mass to Gucci and Makabe.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll run down the whole list later.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But that came about on the post match comments.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Show Makato mentioned that he wants to be a part of the Tokyo dome as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he's talking about having a pre show young lions match.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll see if that's going to be a dark match or something they do in the pre show yet to be announced.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Taichi talking to Kojima said that Tomahiro Ishii will be back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: In fact, he appeared at Korkin Hall.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't wrestle, but he appeared at Korkin Hall.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So the Ishii will be back for the dome.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that Taichi Ishii and Kojima will try to go after the never open weights, six man titles there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, the the the the bickering between Korkin Hall and Taichi has been thick.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But it's been more of
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[SPEAKER_01]: Taichi trying to get one last run out of Kojima rather than trying to discourage him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's tough love, but he's trying to fire up Kojima.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was, that was the one moment in the two road to Tokyo don't show that we didn't have English commentary where it was really hard to parse what was happening.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So much so that you really had to go to Taichi's edge page
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[SPEAKER_00]: and have him explain everything because I think they all realized.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They just, they thought everyone, those two guys just flat out broke up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because then, what it looked like, it's like, they were pushing on something in the ring.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then, I think, wrestled curious within like four hours of that show airing, hooked out a, hooked out something and says that the sheet is coming back, which he does.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But if you're watching the show that day and you see that like, as she is, he's related to come back and team with Tahichi and Kojima
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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, they did start explaining on socials the Taichi is pushing and shoving on coach mode to try to get his motivation up and convince him that he can get, you can still do it, you know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Number one, I am thankful that they have gone to social media to let me give them a question.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: However,
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[SPEAKER_00]: The fact that you went to social media instead of completely booking this on your show is also telling you exactly how important it is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he had to get it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It mentioned it in post-match comments, too, that when once those are translated the next day, you could read in the post-match comments, the subtitles of Tahichi and Kojima talking, that it was Tahichi just saying, you got anything left?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I have something left.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She proved it, okay, let's do it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I will prove it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're doing it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like Jeremy, there's probably, at some point, might just be one match.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I feel like there's one last triumph somewhere for coach him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not saying in a big title match.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's going to be a champion again.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I feel like at the same point, there's going to be something where Coachma steps up and gets a big moment.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe it'll just be getting a pin during this gauntlet match on somebody in the dome and then it goes on and they lose later.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I feel like this is all leading toward one last thing for the old equipment.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Realistically.
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[SPEAKER_00]: they're the upcut special in that government.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're not, they're not like, you look down with like, oh, like, I think they're going to win.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But you also kind of look at them in that field.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're like, they could win.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I'm not ruling them out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they're not in the way.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Are they?
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're not.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There are a couple of teams in this that are no way.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's not them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, especially with even more so
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[SPEAKER_00]: It put a bit of mustard on T.I.E.G.T, I guess that's the best way to put it, you know, like giving them a little bit of like meat to chew with with his role in the company, you know, he's got that kind of spot where he's grizzled and basically he knows the best days are behind him, but he's still going to like go out there and he's proud.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's proud, man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's the best way to put it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There you go.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I see it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: At the same time, what is going to be the payoff to this?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Is the never six man titles that seems about the right levels to put to each you right now, but at the same time, it's like, are they going to do it right away?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Or is this how long is Katrina moving going to be there?
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[SPEAKER_00]: It just seems kind of like up in the air.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a tough one because we mentioned that no one can retire in 2025 whenever everything is focused on Tana Hashie, but it feels like more than Tiger Bass.
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[SPEAKER_01]: are getting toward the end of their careers and understanding that fact, and they're starting to come to terms with that fact, just through comments and post-match comments and things.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it feels like there will be more retirements to come and fairly short order and New Japan.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It just is in the air a little bit that some of these guys are ready to step away.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's like they aged out the guys that are coming up so much that
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[SPEAKER_00]: The generational gap is at 20 years anymore.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like 10, you know, it's like 10 or 15 years and some of these guys.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we kind of like have a half generation right now before like the next guys are coming.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm starting to come to turn with that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, a bunch of guys in their mid 50s, a bunch of guys in their mid 50s, and there's probably time for some of them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So they moved on from the 21st, moved over to Utsunomiya.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's Namiya.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Excuse me, Utsunomiya and Charchi, easy for me to say, Utsunomiya and the like you building.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This was another strong crowd, 1,323.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Noah was in their earlier this year and they doubled the Noah crowd.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's not a knock on Noah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Again, it's just showing that how many people are into.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Tana Hashi right now this night his opponent was El Desparado turned out to be the longest of the three matches on this one went 18 and a half minutes couple of very quick notes from the undercard on that one Kukai was back he was there with Matsumoto against show and dokey he was back on this tour was going to see
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[SPEAKER_01]: Callum Newman, Great O'Con, and Jacob Austin Young, versus Nagai Shingo in Hiromu, was Callum Newman hitting a very good version of the time bomb on Nagai, right in Hiromu's face, which is a nice little touch being a jerk to him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, like here, I'm going to beat your guy with you on move.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And not only that, hitting a pretty darn good looking time bomb as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: afterwards, Newman tried to beat down Nagai, but Schingo ran them off with a chair.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So again, they're doing the whole thing where Newman's a little bit on hand.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Some nights he's getting disqualified by throwing a chair at somebody's head.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The next night he's beating down a young lion afterwards and has to be runoff.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So more fuel to that fire.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, I've been thinking about this in my head for a couple of days, and this might completely bounce off of you personally, and but I'm just going around working out because I'll probably talk about it more in the future.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Caled Newman has a comic book counterpart in my mind, and that is the name Jason Todd, which was the second Robin for Batman, and he was a little
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[SPEAKER_00]: that eventually got his ass beating so badly because he was such a dick that the fans voted to have him killed in the 80s.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then they undid it years later and he came back and he ended up being the guy called the Red Hood.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But he's just a dick and everything that he does is just like
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[SPEAKER_00]: the shadow of being a good guy, but with the veneer of being an absolute like prick.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's what he reminded me of.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Did he have kind of the Jay White thing where you knew he was in the asshole, but he was next to your favorite guy and then did the full heel turn later?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it was a little like the J-White O'Cotta relationship where I caught it Batman and then you got like this 50 little number two that you're trying to rain in and keep them under control.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you kind of know he's going to turn some time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You kind of know he's going to turn up like you walked to stable oil, but like he can't control if impulse is to murder like the back of his.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that had like no you got you got a you can't know you can't do this and then probably the other
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[SPEAKER_00]: But this gentleman is Jason Todd and it just now hit me all right Jason time
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so let's see, you know, the sushi won their prelim match with a gene blaster again, just making him look strong going in a fairly good fundamental booking, I think, just if you just wanted to go with a very basic sphere this week, sorry, you know, right people winning matches and looking to make sure that could you look strong, not getting pinned, they're making sure that Tana Hashi is strong, not getting pinned through the last couple of months.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, it's like whenever whenever their team's lost, it wasn't them doing the jobs and when they have their moment to shine They're doing everything in their power to like hey, do you hear the main event for for our show?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Don't check it don't miss it
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[SPEAKER_01]: Main event was good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: 18 and a half minutes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I said, Desperado went a little bit heal on him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Just had a little bit of that Suzuki Gune Desperado in there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm gonna win this match kind of thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hit him with a share on the outside type of stuff.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's see.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's on how she actually did the skin the cat thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We got over he got thrown over the top rope held onto the top rope and pulled himself back up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you think that's easy, go ahead and try it yourself.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Not as easy as it looks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But finish with three moves
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, that was the the whole thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Sling blade, a high high fly flow.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Good match, desperate out of finish it with a deep bow to Tana Hashie afterwards.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly what it should have been.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, every, every one of you matches.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's the last match.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Somewhere.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you've got to, you,
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[SPEAKER_00]: You got to give the fans what they want, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: They want to see the vintage Tana Hashi experience one last time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's what he's giving them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, it's like you got the struggle.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You got you got a little bit of a tailored match to the strength of this opponent.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then the one, two, three moves.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Great.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's do it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And man, when they queued that up, the next night in Corrican, it was music.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's what the fans want too, isn't it?
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[SPEAKER_01]: In this case, in this one case,
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[SPEAKER_01]: they want the usual script.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They want the greatest hits.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They want to see the big moves.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They want to hit high fly flow.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They want to count along one, two, three, yay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They want the air guitar.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They want they don't want post match beat downs.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They don't want this is exactly what they were hoping for.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But they would get a chance to thank him and say goodbye to him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The only way that really works if he gets a clean wind at the end.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's for no shit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Corrican Hall man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So Chris Samsa, of course, sported pro wrestling friend of our show, but not at many many, many times, provided Chris Charles and on commentary.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We had English commentary in the dome or depth of dome, the Corrican Hall.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And because, of course, it's local show and on on weekends in Tokyo.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, all the ingredients for having some English commentary in there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Chris did it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I hope that just to you, Steven, he also provided me and the rest of our Discord, those same notes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And if you join our Discord, email GGFiteGameEDIA, you too could have those same notes that Chris Charlton had.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Very nice.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What he mentioned was almost 3,000 matches in Tomahashi's career.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's in the 2,990s or something.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's not going to get to 3,000, but he's going to come up just just below.
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[SPEAKER_01]: 480, some of those, Jeremy, I don't remember the exact number.
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[SPEAKER_01]: 483 or something like that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: 480 of those almost 3,000 incorrect one haul incredible.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I would be very curious to know if that's the most.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And if not, who is, because there are some people who wrestle for a very, very, very long time for companies to rank or it can haul, I'm thinking about Baba, who almost until he passed away was on almost every single show, late in this career, he would be he would do a comedy six man match.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Tiger mass four, oh, probably not, I mean, I feel like you got 14 years on him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: he does.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Good question.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Good question.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'd like to know I would like to know what the list is on that Chris Chris might have it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, point being that's a lot of matters in court and all the very very, very specific to say that it was not a record.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, uh,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so somebody does have more, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I would imagine if it were a record somebody would have vetted it, but you didn't want to mean like, yeah, at some point when you see 480 or at anything, somebody, even Chris probably would have done the work to see if somebody has greater, but it's not the topic of who has greater a company he has.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It might be, it might be one of those guys that wrestle for all Japan forever.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And there were guys that were there for decades, decades.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it could be one of those guys, something anyway, point being, it's a heck of a lot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I bet not too many had more important matches that Cork and then he did.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But that's, we can probably let's subject him, but I feel like that too many people had more matches that were important than Tana has she did.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It opened with an ELP Open Challenge TV title match.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And reuse skate to Gucci, who's always the part of the Christmas Coricans answered the call.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They did a lot of comedy in this one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It worked.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're both baby faces.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're both friends.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You can see with it well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll have a little bit of fun here before we wrestle.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I I just like the comedy less than I usually do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I put it that way.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Fantastic.
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[SPEAKER_01]: One.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But there's a bit of a thing afterwards.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He was attacked by Chris Brooks from DDT who challenged him for the don't what did you think of that I thought it was a breath of fresh air as an opponent for ELP
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[SPEAKER_00]: Chris Brooks, formerly of DDT, actually currently of DDT, but I suspect you'll formally be of DDT after the show with New Japan.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If I had to guess, I don't know anything for certain.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But he was in no, but before that, and he has been feuding off and off with that Saber Jr. and that scene has worked, but I've been seeing the social media and he has made himself quite a present.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He has gone the same route as Kenny Omega and that Saber Jr. where he's learned the language and ingratiate himself in the culture.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he has been more or less accepted by the Japanese wrestling fan to one of their own.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So he has a real opportunity to excel there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he was an outside the bulk selection to participate in wrestling kingdom.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I like I like the call accepted.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I like the execution.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think this is going to be a pre-show match.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's listen as a kickoff.
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[SPEAKER_01]: right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so yeah, it feels like it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that'll be it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If there is a young lion tag on there, it'd probably be before the TV title match, if there is, again, they haven't announced that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, that's going to be on there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So look for that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And of course, TV title matches show up on the social media pages for free and stuff like that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So you'll be able to catch that match.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It'd probably be pretty good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think Brooks might win the thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: My, it might be I would be frankly surprised if you didn't you don't come in and challenge for a title on looks like you kind of look like a geek.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, we wouldn't know if that happened, New Japan would we ever happen to a homegrown town in New Japan, but they'll make sure they treat the new guy well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, we had another conversation between evil and Aaron Wolf.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's still not real encouraging folks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not going to lie to you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He jumped over his house of Karatma.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he jumped in on House torture again.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This time he got choked with the Garrett from behind while he was staring down evil.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then evil hit him with the belt.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he dragged him out of the building and kind of beat him down a little bit in front of the sponsor logos, where they do backstage comments in the backstage comments.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He just kind of laid there and then he stood up and said,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Matt with a ton of charisma and that with a ton of emotion or conviction, just kind of recited the line and walked off.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Boy, I'm nervous about this one Jeremy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, you are.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're just doesn't look good, doesn't it?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, you mentioned I think, uh, somewhere where we were chatting, you think they're going to be short and you think it's going to be rehearsed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's probably
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[SPEAKER_00]: I have like a 20% like can't that I'm going to be like surprised and completely blown away by Ern Wolf and that we've all just been fooled by a ringer up to this point.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because that's what I'm hoping for.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Where it's just like he has just come off like such a geek that we come to the ringer like, oh my god, this guy is the real deal.
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[SPEAKER_00]: God, 20% I am.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Just come on, but let me give me that surprise, everybody.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We need to be careful.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We need to be careful.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think this is Brock.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think this is current.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This might be gable.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I can hope.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Dave gave his thoughts about that, too, and he'll be interested to hear him, I think, on that one that they take on this one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He had an interesting parallel to it, and that goes way back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He had an interesting parallel that makes a lot of sense.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, after that, we did have ghetto teaming up, with Shingo Takagi and Haroma Takahashi against O'Con, Newman and Young.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Bench and that Newman got himself to qualify the first night, beat down the guy the next week.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, this time they fought all over the building,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Geto was legal the entire match, although the other two were busy fighting on the outside, so it's not like they took the night off.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But the story was that the United Empire isolated geto and defeated him with the overkill, just another little thing, newman is using one of the other guys finishing moves on them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So time bomb the night before this time he uses overkill.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Newman then said, since it's Christmas time, he was going to reveal one of the exes, as you remember, at the Tokyo dome, there are two exes on the United Empire side with, with Newman and Array, the returning and Array, and Great O'Con, video played, and it is
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he's a little somber up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He is one of the exes, and is apparently the money man behind United Empire now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's, you know, the Gideon Grey is no longer around, apparently, and so yeah, it has that background.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's one of the original in Gobernobles in Mexico.
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[SPEAKER_01]: CMLL, he and Roosh, and a few others, formed the OG in Gobernobles, which is what Naito saw
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[SPEAKER_01]: was initially rejected by the New Japan fans as a top guy, went to Mexico for a little while, joined that group, came back, lost in Gobernavelies, they hop on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So an original in Gobernavelie, and it was fun for me in post-match comics to see Shingo walk back there to go who the hell was that guy?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And who Rome would just go, yeah, he's one of the original in Gobernavelies, and Shingo just kind of goes, oh,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That kind of pisses me off a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, then this guy's you know, coming back and turning like he didn't know who the somber was, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: But
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so we still don't know who the other X is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't eliminate the rumors about night.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it doesn't, it's kind of cleverly done.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is at least the mystery about I still, I kind of doubt it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It'd be fun if it were.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's night at all.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know the way I'm doing it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't open, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: They did, but I doubt it, though, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Here's the poetry and what they did.
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[SPEAKER_00]: United Empire got Andre L. Edelo, the former was sombra, who was, you know, a member of L.O.C.
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[SPEAKER_00]: in Gunnar, I'll be a stay-hapone, the whole deal.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's been, and he's been the New Japan before.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He was in a 21 years ago.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So now, United Empire has got a guy designed to hurt the former members of L.I.J.
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[SPEAKER_00]: on the other side of the team.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Thread should be somebody to hurt the bullet club members of that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I agree with you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I am more convinced than ever of the guy at J.C.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a good one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That would be a good choice.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And furthermore, with the nighto thing, let's think about it from a business perspective.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This dome is already sold out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: When nighto comes back, it'll be a big deal, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: You don't need anyone to come up in cell tickets.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Use that later when you do need to cell tickets.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, why have nighto's return come when you've already sold out the building without it?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Am I out getting my crazy?
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[SPEAKER_00]: why, why, Stephen, why, would you?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's clear to me now that they did have a non-competed for night home for the rest of 2025 if you were just going to bring him back four days later.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's it to me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like none of that made to me, like this is all cute.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But it's still a big rumor going around that that's going to be the one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I agree with that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That to me is 100% of time that you need to get rid of like the people at top of New Japan.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because there's no reason I don't think gone if you're going to negotiate all of this for a show that does not need his presence.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Bring him back when it'll help because right now this show this show does not need help.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's it you've sold it out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's on the I can't tell if you're at the feet unless you already have a ticket.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so yeah, use it to use it to sell tickets not to.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, we'll see who that other one is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I think you're on to something with somebody to hurt the bullet club and that does make a heck of a lot of sense.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that was the fourth match on the show.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We had a couple others to go here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Nothing really happened too much.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Suji Oscar and Ice face Saber Owewa and Jackson.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There was a post match beat down from the knockout brothers on Saber and Owewa to put some heat on their upcoming tag title match.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The late both of them out and that was fairly effective.
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[SPEAKER_01]: really did.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then it was down to Tanahashi's final road against Jose Fujida.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Another really good match.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This one shorter than I mentioned.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The Desparados was the longest one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This was I believe it was the shortest one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm double checking that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, 12, 12 minutes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, wasn't very long.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Greatest hits.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But again, the point, just like in the Tokyo Dome, the main event is the retirement ceremony.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The main event to this show was time at Hashu Saga by the Cork and Hall.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he felt it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He was in all the fields there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There were tears.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There was a wave that was more air guitar and a fan service at the end.
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[SPEAKER_01]: very emotional farewell to a guy who has had some of the most important matches in the building history.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And there it is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: His final one against co-safews who did a good job in the match, by the way, good match.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But this was all about Tana.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And in the end, Fujida, again, you know, deep bow all the respect and then on to the post-match post-match festivities with him just saying goodbye to the most
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[SPEAKER_00]: Honohashi's last match in Corrigan Hall.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, you just say that trend after you're like, damn, it's real, man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like this is over.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And...
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[SPEAKER_00]: From the moment, Tana Hashi left over the rope to hit the ace's high, you could hear the rise in the crowd, where they're just like, this is, this is it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's take it all in.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And from that moment on, that crowd, go to him love from the end of the match, until they left their seats.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he showed them love back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was honestly,
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[SPEAKER_00]: where I was thinking about it when we were talking about something else a few minutes earlier.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I think it might be my favorite moment in New Japan in 2025.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's the Tonohashi Fairwell in Corrican because
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[SPEAKER_00]: You saw in that moment how special the relationship between the wrestler and the fans truly is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And we haven't really seen that tap into, be tapped into in the current generation.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's something that they're gonna have to work to work.
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[SPEAKER_00]: In granted, Tonahashi said 20 years to get to this point and he milked it for all of us worth it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't mean that as a bad thing, because like this is a victory lap.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's on the last way of the victory lab.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You get to do whatever the hell you want, dude.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you carry wrestling on your back for 20 years?
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[SPEAKER_00]: We get back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We watch you ride.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's a good point.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I will still take Goto's victory over Zack, is my favorite moment of the year to see Goto hit the top in the mountain, but this was special.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This was definitely special.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think if the ride had been a little bit different for Gono, I think I would have done there, but I felt like they just kind of told us that it was more of a fan service thing that they were doing rather than like a legitimate direction and change and change in mentality.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And this was as authentic as it gets.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we mentioned that Elfantassement and Chris Brooks has been added to the card.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We now know the other teams, all of the teams that are going to be in the never open weight six man championship, tornado rainbow, a mouth full of a mouth full of a match name.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So here they are.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We have the Champions, Toriano, yo, and Master Watto.
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[SPEAKER_01]: uh... kaisy that was one thing that i didn't mention kaisy to kaisy helped out show to umanou and uia ua mora in the uh... coricon hall show i get to say them from say them from post-match attack from outstructure clean house hit a beautiful dropkick
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I can't say to Kashi, who is impossibly good looking, good lord.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He says a handsome guy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: A member of a J.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Pop group is a DDT wrestler, so he's got the pop star thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's got the pro wrestling thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He is going to be teeming with Umano and Uemura, they cemented that in Corkin Hall as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's another team in there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hero Kigoto Yoshihashi and Bolton Oleg to meet on paper on paper, maybe the favorites to win the thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Strong team, strong team.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Zach Saber, Jr. in Rio.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, we will be on the Tokyo Dome show.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll be in the tornado match for no one's really going to be able to shine.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Heartly Jackson is the third there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We love heartly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're big fans of his, but he's the guy that gets beat usually.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't see them winning it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So they can get pinned and committed or thrown over a top rope.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I believe that is the case.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: God.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Tony Makabay Tiger mask and we just get to Gucci the team we talked about earlier.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Ice and Oscar will be in there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The knockout brothers in there with Clark Combs who is returning for this match.
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[SPEAKER_01]: January 4th.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We have a tent for a while.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Awesome.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so, again, that's a guy that can probably lose the fall for ECE to HE and Kojima.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then Rennerita Sanada and Yoshinobu kind of Maru are the House of Torture.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No problem.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We end up winning it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, there you have it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So those are the changes to the Tokyo Dome card along with on Dr. A. L. E. Delo added to that match with Great O'Con, Calam Numan, Henare and one more X.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Again, Shingo Takagi, David Finlay, Gabe Kid, Drillamologi, Haromu Takahashi.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that'll be, that's the third match.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we're going to get a lot of these surprises out of the way early and then you kind of know how it's all going to wrap up because we have
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[SPEAKER_01]: The IWGP Junior Heavyweight Championship number one contenders four away.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I still thank Jeremy, here's my prediction.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I still think we're gonna see Doki that he is either going to try to help show.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's gonna interfere in some way.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Perhaps if they really wanted to throw a twist in, the winner of this match gets their title match like they're immediately, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you do it, really.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Evil versus Wolfe, to catch the versus Suji and Tanahashi versus Sokata, we've talked about quite a bit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No changes to those shows.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No extra stipulations added.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Here they are.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I mentioned it last week, but I thought it was so bizarre that up until like the the very road Tokyo don't.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We hadn't seen Dokey since he made the like announcement that he was like the guy and there's nobody to challenge him and it's like, all right, and you're just beer nose, what a wow.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He just gone going for a while and he's coming back after wrestling them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But nope, you showed up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Here we are and all
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[SPEAKER_01]: And we know that somewhere here Oeshe is back in Japan.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Again, didn't wrestle on Cork and Hall, but he came out with Tahiti.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He also came out with Tahini Hashie, held the ropes form a little bit later, which got two more weeks to heal up, good for him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that was good to see him back in there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And endorsing his team with Kojima, he made comments backstage that he felt like they could all excel as a team together.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So he's on board, basically.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This isn't a skeptical partner situation.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The other thing that happens this time of year every year is the kind of course so the body building contest and that has Voting is open.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You can go ahead and look at the physics and things and the in the on the NJP W 1972 web page.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a pretty diverse group Jeremy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a lot of members of Han Thai, including to Gucci who's always a fun entry and
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[SPEAKER_01]: But there are Robbie Eagles and Shane Haste joining a remotely from Eagles choice of outfits is always fun.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Sia Iita from startup.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She's in there again a couple of dragons gate wrestlers three of them and then PPP Tokyo we've got that we have.
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[SPEAKER_01]: a staff member, an NJPW events department guy, Dike Yagai, who is absolutely ripped, Jeremy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This guy, he's not a pro wrestler.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He just works for New Japan.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The guy's got a hell of a physique.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Matsumoto, the young lion there, who's a former personal trainer, I think looks great.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Zayn J.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Better than I had anticipated here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then some of these guy, the dragon kid really built Yuki Yoshioca.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I,
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[SPEAKER_01]: How how is as I believe how you pronounce it that guy has a hell of a physique as well, Cantaro Hachisu.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So a lot of good choices this year, Jeremy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's going to be a tough tough vote.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And of course, I got a few things to do on the fine cryptocurrency, but if I get to it, although on which which male anatomical figure is the most aesthetically appealing to me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, last year's winner was Doki.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's not in this year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Of course, still playing up the heel persona.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's forado is in, and he does have clothes on this year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So let's change it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you draw a win like two years ago?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'd have to look that up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But we have a late entry as well, and that is our holy emperor, Tahiti.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Good for him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What a bit of housekeeping here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We have the merchandise for the meet-up
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, where is this thing?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Here we go.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We have the merchandise for the meet-up at Hub British Pub at noon at the Tokyo Dome for all the listeners of the show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Keep it a strong style.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We work stiff and superjacast.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That merchandise will be open until December 28th.
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[SPEAKER_00]: At that point, we are closing the shop and donating all proceeds
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[SPEAKER_00]: to lyric in Danny feeding America charity drive that they did through Twitter and social media over the last couple of days where they raised $2,400 of that under their original $500.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we'll add a little bit more to that and to a good cause I didn't really care about making money on any of this stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is all just for fun.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So
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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, we're gonna send it to a good cause and uh, yeah, if you're in Japan, join us in Hubbedburg pub or whatever event.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you see me there and you recognize me, come say hi.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll probably be by yourself or one or two other people, but whatever, say hi.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's no gatekeeping here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Come on, bye.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so this whole thing is all about this this community of pro wrestling fans and and just enjoying the festivities around the biggest shows of the year and their loads of them this week.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I hope everybody does say hi and enjoy that as well and meet up some of the other podcasts.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So two more than one we got the day of show.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Don't forget.
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[SPEAKER_01]: this month.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But they've show on Monday.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that is dropping on Monday.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then that we are still going to be here doing this show next Thursday at our regular time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So again, this bonus content is that is not replacing anything.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We've got Dave on Monday and then we'll be back with a live show again Thursday.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Jeremy is going to be from a smaller hotel room that he's prepared for.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't know how small my apartment is, buddy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, all right, but you think you're ready for Japanese hotel rooms.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then you're in line.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I mean, they're, yeah, so they're perfectly nice, but they get this job done.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's all I need.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But he will be joining us there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Brighton Bush, Brad.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I wish you tailed in the morning on a day of like one time to me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But Jeremy been joining us from Japan.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll be here back in the states and we will do a live show here here about Jeremy's first few adventures over in Japan.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll talk about any news that comes up and go over rumors and what and some of the things I'm going to do might come my way that I'm willing to talk about.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, well, yeah, and that'll be what January 2nd for you or you Jeremy, that'll be January 2nd, which means you can tell us a little bit about that Noah show and because that might have some repercussions, who knows there might be some new Japan representation on that show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There might be, yeah, so I'm looking forward to all that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll be going to the Noah show the DDT show and the rest of the kingdom show when I'm there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The last thing that I wanted to do Steven.
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[SPEAKER_00]: not particularly to the show or anything like that was what I wanted to thank you to I wanted to thank everyone at fight game media and three I wanted to thank all of our fans for the support and everything that had happened for us this year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like we've had a really strong growth and with their ship and loyalty and taking chance is doing a number of different
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it makes me very happy and I just wanted to extend my thankfulness for each and every one of you the fear and going forward.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely, totally agree.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so happy holidays to everybody.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I hope you've enjoyed today.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And we are going to wrap this one up here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I said, a bit of a shorter show this week.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Only the road to shows to talk about the plenty coming up ahead, including that Dave Meltzer interview on Monday.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So enjoy the holiday, everybody.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it's just, we hope that everyone's just having a wonderful time with their family or however he is celebrating.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll re-center and get back to what's important if you forget that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This holiday season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: all right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So once again, thanks to everybody who joined us here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Thanks to everyone who's listening to this later on YouTube or as a podcast, we appreciate your time for Jeremy Feinstein.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm Stephen Conway.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This has been Speaking of Strong Style and we'll talk to you again real soon.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Happy holidays to all of you out there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm Stephen Kai with me, of course, Jeremy Feinstown.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is a special edition of Speaking of Strong Style.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We have some important announcements to make and we have some changes to the Wrestle Kingdom card to talk about.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's go ahead and get started.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Welcome everyone to this special holiday edition of Speaking of Strong Style.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to be a bit of a shorter show this week or with our families.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a Christmas here in the wherever you are.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess it is Christmas in, uh, uh, we hope you're enjoying yours if you celebrate.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And even if you don't, I hope you enjoy, uh, a nice day off for the most part as most people are.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, uh, we're going to talk today about the road to the Tokyo Dome show's new Japan had over the course of this past week because they did end up being newsworthy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's an additional match to the rest of Kingdom crowd and we have some clarification on who is going to be in this trio's gauntlet, the never open white six man match and that of course three more matches from Hiroshi town of Hashi we're done just one more so.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But short show today, however, we're going to make it up to you because we have something very special planned for Monday when everybody's kind of getting back in the groove a little bit and Jeremy why don't you tell us about the very special episode of this show that's going to drop this coming Monday the 29th.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Long time no talk, Stephen feel like it was just yesterday that you and I were chatting, but here we are.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We also live here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, some of you have seen on the on our labels for our self that Stephen will hype his website, written that replay and I'll mention that I'm Dave Melkert, paperview watching buddy, Edith Tung and Cheek, what a label and whatever well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: because it's Tonahashi, because it's speaking of strong style, because it's wrestling number 20.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Dave Meltzer actually joined us for almost 90 minutes this week to discuss all day in Tonahashi, anything and everything that we could throw at him, regarding his legacy, his career, what he did for pro wrestling in general.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We tried to cover as much of a broad subject talk about him and why he's so important.
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[SPEAKER_00]: frankly, even what he has made forth in wrestling is more valuable than even what we realize.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we're going to debuse that on Monday.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We were thinking about this week, but the reality is that the week is Pana Hashie retirement.
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[SPEAKER_00]: let's kick it off that way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's just get everybody out there and start it off and who better than Dave Meltzer, who better than Speaker Strongstyle.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we got together.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to put that video up on Monday and that is going to be the special bonus edition before we come back next Thursday with you at another episode.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Jeremy, you'll be in the air when I think drops probably, yeah, I got to do some behind the scene, a little bit of work to kind of goose the goose the whatever YouTube.
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[SPEAKER_00]: stuff to make it hit or whatever.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, but I'm going to make some clips.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to do this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that basically just kind of hope and pray that a lot of people see this and think it's a good interview because honestly Steven, I was really proud of that thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Even though like David Iron Friends professionally, I felt like that was a really good interview.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it was a fun talk.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was a fun talk and you mentioned it touched on a lot of different parts of time of how she's life and career.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We talked a little bit about it is education growing up and talked about it's early days the prime years of course is best rivalries even the challenges that are waiting for him as president when he's no longer an active wrestler cover the whole game and and he said well over an hour with Dave Meltzer the wrestling observer newsletter.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we're excited about that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to drop Monday.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You can look for it in your podcast feed.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you listen to this, the pocket will go right there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you're watching us on YouTube here in the fight game, media networks can be right here, like it always is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So you don't have to do anything special.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's coming to you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But it'll be out on Monday to kick off silly season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I call it right there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's that's the day of Dream Queen to start them first show.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then after that, major major shows DDT, Noah, all Japan.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Marty Gold, everybody's got a major show coming up at TJPW on the fourth.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So whatever you're into, there is, there's something for you that, that we hero in this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Excellent way to kick it off.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, but we had some business to take care of before we get to all that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that were these road two shows here that went around.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And there were, there were three, it was, it was a rather short tour, let me mini tour right there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And the first one was in Taksaki in Gunma.
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[SPEAKER_01]: At the Grand Messet, again, the Grand Messet is those giant airplane hangar type of buildings against community centers, and they're the ones everybody's sitting on one level, there's no bleachers, or anything like that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They drew about 1,300 for this one, the only show that did better.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This year was a G1, a night of the G1.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So once again, people showing up big time for
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[SPEAKER_01]: The end record was nothing really to speak of, but preview text, just preview text.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What you would expect?
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, you're a wrestling, not trying to hurt them so much before a big show, think they did.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, basically.
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[SPEAKER_01]: One thing that was strange, they did two consecutive DQ finishes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: which is extremely rare for New Japan on that show.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They had one where it's not at the BS thing where he fakes getting hit with the guitar and he tossed it to Kojima and the referee bought it, even though the guitar wasn't destroyed.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And disqualify Kojima, the very next match
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[SPEAKER_01]: Calum Newman just waffle everybody with a chair for disqualification in their match because they're sure that Newman is in that Post-giving a crap face Just sometimes in the middle of a match right in front of the referee just wallops the guy with a chair with the idea being I just want to punish my opponents more than I even care about defeating them in these previews So uh strange their Jeremy you don't often get a DQ and New Japan let alone two Consequently and it makes me wonder if it's not a new that they were gonna do that finish the next match
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's possible he did.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's possible he didn't.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's also possible that Newspand like, you know what?
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're this close to the dome.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Get the heat.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You won't get some heat on now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it was fine.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Either way, but I guess that these things are strictly teasers for talk.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Almost unremarkable.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I had to not mention it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But it's just one of those like, it's one of the, one of the, one of the, one of the, one of the, one of the, one of the, one of the
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[SPEAKER_00]: small things that we can comment on because they're really wasn't much to these two shows before we got to the one in Corican.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's more of a trivia question anything else.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we see so few DQs and New Japan.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I would be curious to hear what was the last time there were two on one last show.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let alone two consecutive matches.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I've been in a very, very long time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The final road that night was against her own.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll talk about Hashi and gunshots.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was good, I thought, the twist that Heromo brought into it was doing other people's famous moves to Tanahashi.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So in this one, he used the short arm elbows that Naito used to use to set up the destino.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He used a rainmaker on Tanahashi.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Tanahashi used the clover leaf and Tanahashi used a back on hand, the Texas clover leaf.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He did hit a time bomb 1.5 for a two count.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That got a response out of the crowd there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They were into that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But in the end, it was sort of the town of Hashie version of the three moves of Doom, where he hit Sling Blade, Ace's high-fly flow to win it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was fine.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, parts of this were good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't very long.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Handshake and hugs afterwards.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And what I like too, Jeremy, they showed before each of these matches on this road to tour,
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[SPEAKER_01]: that we're with each guy talking about their history and he saw some pictures of young lion, Hiromu hanging out with a much younger Hiroshi Tanahashi out there and you realize that these guys do go back quite a long way and you know it's a nice one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Tanahashi one of course he's made of any of the dome.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He needs to win.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He needs to look good going into it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But good match.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I call it the I call it the scene of special.
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[SPEAKER_00]: but had Tana Hachi so far in this like final road here, Donna Match were like other people's moves were just over and over and over, like spammed.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I can't recall.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, there are wrestlers.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yo likes using other wrestlers movies.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I don't recall anything with Tanahashi.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I mentioned it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mentioned because the scene of thing, like a lot of these matches that you were doing near the end was he would do the style of clash and he would like you would do as you spear in all these things.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And when you mentioned the stuff that Haromu was doing, that's the first thing that I, you know what I mean?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it just kind of was like, oh, yeah, you're calling back to all these other guys or something poetic.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, but again, we if you do it once you just kind of slip it in there like, oh yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's we're over the guy to the ghost of Tonahashi's past when you're Christmas, however, on it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And here in America, we like to see Easter eggs in American matches.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We say, oh, that was a spot from a New York eat.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Watch this New Japan or, you know, you'll see something like that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It does happen every once in a while.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Guys doing something that's a callback to something we saw on New Japan.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's something that only the hard course would catch.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's fun to kind of remember that that goes both ways, and that the guys in Japan are watching I guess WWE Network still exists in Japan.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not peacock over there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's only in the U.S.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So they're watching the stuff that's going on over here, and they're paying attention to in that vein, by the way, when Cena retired, I don't know if he saw from the Marty Gold feed, but Mayu-Ewattani standing in the ring saying, here's a picture of Mayu with John Cena hashtag can't see him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, in just kind of giving tribute to him as the greatest, which I thought was fun.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, they pay attention to one of the things that New Japan does and their big matches is they'll do a spot with a guy in one match and then two years later or a year and a half later they'll call back to that like
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[SPEAKER_00]: When, when Newspend does it, they don't waste it on like the, the multi-man time because they know that the majority of the audience isn't catching it, they, they make sure that when the most eyes are on it is when they lay down the groundwork for these climactic terms, you know,
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[SPEAKER_00]: the rainmaker being, you know, countered instead of being hit in a match, that kind of thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, God was really good at that in all honesty, was taking those spots and using them to convey a greater sense of drama and tension in a match because you went in a direction that you've never gone before with these two guys.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's very cool.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that was it for that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And afterwards, handshakes and hugs, you know, total sportsmanship on that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: A lot of air guitar, after a lot of air guitar, the crowd did the wave, you know, it's not how she is savoring these fans service moments at the end of each of these people.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Those people really into fields and one of these nights.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: A couple of things happened in the post-match comments.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Tiger Mask mentioned that it is going to be his final Tokyo dome show since he is going to retire next July.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll get more of an tiger mask for legacy as his retirement approaches, but final dome show for a guy that's been around for a very long time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he wanted to be in it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He wanted to be on the show which makes total sense.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Don't keep sick.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He wants to be on the show, but he asked Reeveskate to
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[SPEAKER_01]: And the gauntlet match.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we will see that team Tiger Mass to Gucci and Makabe.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll run down the whole list later.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But that came about on the post match comments.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Show Makato mentioned that he wants to be a part of the Tokyo dome as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he's talking about having a pre show young lions match.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll see if that's going to be a dark match or something they do in the pre show yet to be announced.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Taichi talking to Kojima said that Tomahiro Ishii will be back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: In fact, he appeared at Korkin Hall.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't wrestle, but he appeared at Korkin Hall.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So the Ishii will be back for the dome.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that Taichi Ishii and Kojima will try to go after the never open weights, six man titles there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, the the the the bickering between Korkin Hall and Taichi has been thick.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But it's been more of
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[SPEAKER_01]: Taichi trying to get one last run out of Kojima rather than trying to discourage him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's tough love, but he's trying to fire up Kojima.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was, that was the one moment in the two road to Tokyo don't show that we didn't have English commentary where it was really hard to parse what was happening.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So much so that you really had to go to Taichi's edge page
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[SPEAKER_00]: and have him explain everything because I think they all realized.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They just, they thought everyone, those two guys just flat out broke up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because then, what it looked like, it's like, they were pushing on something in the ring.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then, I think, wrestled curious within like four hours of that show airing, hooked out a, hooked out something and says that the sheet is coming back, which he does.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But if you're watching the show that day and you see that like, as she is, he's related to come back and team with Tahichi and Kojima
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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, they did start explaining on socials the Taichi is pushing and shoving on coach mode to try to get his motivation up and convince him that he can get, you can still do it, you know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Number one, I am thankful that they have gone to social media to let me give them a question.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: However,
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[SPEAKER_00]: The fact that you went to social media instead of completely booking this on your show is also telling you exactly how important it is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he had to get it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It mentioned it in post-match comments, too, that when once those are translated the next day, you could read in the post-match comments, the subtitles of Tahichi and Kojima talking, that it was Tahichi just saying, you got anything left?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I have something left.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She proved it, okay, let's do it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I will prove it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're doing it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like Jeremy, there's probably, at some point, might just be one match.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I feel like there's one last triumph somewhere for coach him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not saying in a big title match.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's going to be a champion again.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I feel like at the same point, there's going to be something where Coachma steps up and gets a big moment.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe it'll just be getting a pin during this gauntlet match on somebody in the dome and then it goes on and they lose later.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I feel like this is all leading toward one last thing for the old equipment.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Realistically.
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[SPEAKER_00]: they're the upcut special in that government.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're not, they're not like, you look down with like, oh, like, I think they're going to win.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But you also kind of look at them in that field.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're like, they could win.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I'm not ruling them out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they're not in the way.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Are they?
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're not.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There are a couple of teams in this that are no way.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's not them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, especially with even more so
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[SPEAKER_00]: It put a bit of mustard on T.I.E.G.T, I guess that's the best way to put it, you know, like giving them a little bit of like meat to chew with with his role in the company, you know, he's got that kind of spot where he's grizzled and basically he knows the best days are behind him, but he's still going to like go out there and he's proud.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's proud, man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's the best way to put it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There you go.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I see it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: At the same time, what is going to be the payoff to this?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Is the never six man titles that seems about the right levels to put to each you right now, but at the same time, it's like, are they going to do it right away?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Or is this how long is Katrina moving going to be there?
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[SPEAKER_00]: It just seems kind of like up in the air.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a tough one because we mentioned that no one can retire in 2025 whenever everything is focused on Tana Hashie, but it feels like more than Tiger Bass.
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[SPEAKER_01]: are getting toward the end of their careers and understanding that fact, and they're starting to come to terms with that fact, just through comments and post-match comments and things.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it feels like there will be more retirements to come and fairly short order and New Japan.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It just is in the air a little bit that some of these guys are ready to step away.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's like they aged out the guys that are coming up so much that
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[SPEAKER_00]: The generational gap is at 20 years anymore.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like 10, you know, it's like 10 or 15 years and some of these guys.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we kind of like have a half generation right now before like the next guys are coming.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm starting to come to turn with that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, a bunch of guys in their mid 50s, a bunch of guys in their mid 50s, and there's probably time for some of them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So they moved on from the 21st, moved over to Utsunomiya.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's Namiya.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Excuse me, Utsunomiya and Charchi, easy for me to say, Utsunomiya and the like you building.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This was another strong crowd, 1,323.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Noah was in their earlier this year and they doubled the Noah crowd.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's not a knock on Noah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Again, it's just showing that how many people are into.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Tana Hashi right now this night his opponent was El Desparado turned out to be the longest of the three matches on this one went 18 and a half minutes couple of very quick notes from the undercard on that one Kukai was back he was there with Matsumoto against show and dokey he was back on this tour was going to see
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[SPEAKER_01]: Callum Newman, Great O'Con, and Jacob Austin Young, versus Nagai Shingo in Hiromu, was Callum Newman hitting a very good version of the time bomb on Nagai, right in Hiromu's face, which is a nice little touch being a jerk to him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, like here, I'm going to beat your guy with you on move.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And not only that, hitting a pretty darn good looking time bomb as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: afterwards, Newman tried to beat down Nagai, but Schingo ran them off with a chair.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So again, they're doing the whole thing where Newman's a little bit on hand.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Some nights he's getting disqualified by throwing a chair at somebody's head.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The next night he's beating down a young lion afterwards and has to be runoff.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So more fuel to that fire.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, I've been thinking about this in my head for a couple of days, and this might completely bounce off of you personally, and but I'm just going around working out because I'll probably talk about it more in the future.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Caled Newman has a comic book counterpart in my mind, and that is the name Jason Todd, which was the second Robin for Batman, and he was a little
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[SPEAKER_00]: that eventually got his ass beating so badly because he was such a dick that the fans voted to have him killed in the 80s.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then they undid it years later and he came back and he ended up being the guy called the Red Hood.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But he's just a dick and everything that he does is just like
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[SPEAKER_00]: the shadow of being a good guy, but with the veneer of being an absolute like prick.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's what he reminded me of.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Did he have kind of the Jay White thing where you knew he was in the asshole, but he was next to your favorite guy and then did the full heel turn later?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it was a little like the J-White O'Cotta relationship where I caught it Batman and then you got like this 50 little number two that you're trying to rain in and keep them under control.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you kind of know he's going to turn some time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You kind of know he's going to turn up like you walked to stable oil, but like he can't control if impulse is to murder like the back of his.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that had like no you got you got a you can't know you can't do this and then probably the other
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[SPEAKER_00]: But this gentleman is Jason Todd and it just now hit me all right Jason time
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so let's see, you know, the sushi won their prelim match with a gene blaster again, just making him look strong going in a fairly good fundamental booking, I think, just if you just wanted to go with a very basic sphere this week, sorry, you know, right people winning matches and looking to make sure that could you look strong, not getting pinned, they're making sure that Tana Hashi is strong, not getting pinned through the last couple of months.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, it's like whenever whenever their team's lost, it wasn't them doing the jobs and when they have their moment to shine They're doing everything in their power to like hey, do you hear the main event for for our show?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Don't check it don't miss it
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[SPEAKER_01]: Main event was good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: 18 and a half minutes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I said, Desperado went a little bit heal on him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Just had a little bit of that Suzuki Gune Desperado in there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm gonna win this match kind of thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hit him with a share on the outside type of stuff.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's see.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's on how she actually did the skin the cat thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We got over he got thrown over the top rope held onto the top rope and pulled himself back up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you think that's easy, go ahead and try it yourself.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Not as easy as it looks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But finish with three moves
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, that was the the whole thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Sling blade, a high high fly flow.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Good match, desperate out of finish it with a deep bow to Tana Hashie afterwards.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly what it should have been.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, every, every one of you matches.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's the last match.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Somewhere.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you've got to, you,
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[SPEAKER_00]: You got to give the fans what they want, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: They want to see the vintage Tana Hashi experience one last time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's what he's giving them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, it's like you got the struggle.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You got you got a little bit of a tailored match to the strength of this opponent.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then the one, two, three moves.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Great.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's do it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And man, when they queued that up, the next night in Corrican, it was music.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's what the fans want too, isn't it?
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[SPEAKER_01]: In this case, in this one case,
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[SPEAKER_01]: they want the usual script.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They want the greatest hits.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They want to see the big moves.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They want to hit high fly flow.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They want to count along one, two, three, yay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They want the air guitar.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They want they don't want post match beat downs.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They don't want this is exactly what they were hoping for.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But they would get a chance to thank him and say goodbye to him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The only way that really works if he gets a clean wind at the end.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's for no shit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Corrican Hall man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So Chris Samsa, of course, sported pro wrestling friend of our show, but not at many many, many times, provided Chris Charles and on commentary.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We had English commentary in the dome or depth of dome, the Corrican Hall.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And because, of course, it's local show and on on weekends in Tokyo.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, all the ingredients for having some English commentary in there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Chris did it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I hope that just to you, Steven, he also provided me and the rest of our Discord, those same notes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And if you join our Discord, email GGFiteGameEDIA, you too could have those same notes that Chris Charlton had.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Very nice.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What he mentioned was almost 3,000 matches in Tomahashi's career.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's in the 2,990s or something.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's not going to get to 3,000, but he's going to come up just just below.
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[SPEAKER_01]: 480, some of those, Jeremy, I don't remember the exact number.
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[SPEAKER_01]: 483 or something like that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: 480 of those almost 3,000 incorrect one haul incredible.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I would be very curious to know if that's the most.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And if not, who is, because there are some people who wrestle for a very, very, very long time for companies to rank or it can haul, I'm thinking about Baba, who almost until he passed away was on almost every single show, late in this career, he would be he would do a comedy six man match.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Tiger mass four, oh, probably not, I mean, I feel like you got 14 years on him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: he does.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Good question.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Good question.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'd like to know I would like to know what the list is on that Chris Chris might have it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, point being that's a lot of matters in court and all the very very, very specific to say that it was not a record.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, uh,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so somebody does have more, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I would imagine if it were a record somebody would have vetted it, but you didn't want to mean like, yeah, at some point when you see 480 or at anything, somebody, even Chris probably would have done the work to see if somebody has greater, but it's not the topic of who has greater a company he has.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It might be, it might be one of those guys that wrestle for all Japan forever.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And there were guys that were there for decades, decades.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it could be one of those guys, something anyway, point being, it's a heck of a lot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I bet not too many had more important matches that Cork and then he did.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But that's, we can probably let's subject him, but I feel like that too many people had more matches that were important than Tana has she did.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It opened with an ELP Open Challenge TV title match.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And reuse skate to Gucci, who's always the part of the Christmas Coricans answered the call.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They did a lot of comedy in this one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It worked.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're both baby faces.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're both friends.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You can see with it well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll have a little bit of fun here before we wrestle.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I I just like the comedy less than I usually do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I put it that way.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Fantastic.
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[SPEAKER_01]: One.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But there's a bit of a thing afterwards.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He was attacked by Chris Brooks from DDT who challenged him for the don't what did you think of that I thought it was a breath of fresh air as an opponent for ELP
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[SPEAKER_00]: Chris Brooks, formerly of DDT, actually currently of DDT, but I suspect you'll formally be of DDT after the show with New Japan.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If I had to guess, I don't know anything for certain.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But he was in no, but before that, and he has been feuding off and off with that Saber Jr. and that scene has worked, but I've been seeing the social media and he has made himself quite a present.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He has gone the same route as Kenny Omega and that Saber Jr. where he's learned the language and ingratiate himself in the culture.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he has been more or less accepted by the Japanese wrestling fan to one of their own.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So he has a real opportunity to excel there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he was an outside the bulk selection to participate in wrestling kingdom.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I like I like the call accepted.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I like the execution.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think this is going to be a pre-show match.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's listen as a kickoff.
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[SPEAKER_01]: right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so yeah, it feels like it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that'll be it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If there is a young lion tag on there, it'd probably be before the TV title match, if there is, again, they haven't announced that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, that's going to be on there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So look for that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And of course, TV title matches show up on the social media pages for free and stuff like that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So you'll be able to catch that match.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It'd probably be pretty good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think Brooks might win the thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: My, it might be I would be frankly surprised if you didn't you don't come in and challenge for a title on looks like you kind of look like a geek.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, we wouldn't know if that happened, New Japan would we ever happen to a homegrown town in New Japan, but they'll make sure they treat the new guy well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, we had another conversation between evil and Aaron Wolf.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's still not real encouraging folks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not going to lie to you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He jumped over his house of Karatma.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he jumped in on House torture again.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This time he got choked with the Garrett from behind while he was staring down evil.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then evil hit him with the belt.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he dragged him out of the building and kind of beat him down a little bit in front of the sponsor logos, where they do backstage comments in the backstage comments.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He just kind of laid there and then he stood up and said,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Matt with a ton of charisma and that with a ton of emotion or conviction, just kind of recited the line and walked off.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Boy, I'm nervous about this one Jeremy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, you are.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're just doesn't look good, doesn't it?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, you mentioned I think, uh, somewhere where we were chatting, you think they're going to be short and you think it's going to be rehearsed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's probably
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[SPEAKER_00]: I have like a 20% like can't that I'm going to be like surprised and completely blown away by Ern Wolf and that we've all just been fooled by a ringer up to this point.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because that's what I'm hoping for.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Where it's just like he has just come off like such a geek that we come to the ringer like, oh my god, this guy is the real deal.
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[SPEAKER_00]: God, 20% I am.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Just come on, but let me give me that surprise, everybody.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We need to be careful.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We need to be careful.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think this is Brock.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think this is current.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This might be gable.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I can hope.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Dave gave his thoughts about that, too, and he'll be interested to hear him, I think, on that one that they take on this one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He had an interesting parallel to it, and that goes way back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He had an interesting parallel that makes a lot of sense.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, after that, we did have ghetto teaming up, with Shingo Takagi and Haroma Takahashi against O'Con, Newman and Young.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Bench and that Newman got himself to qualify the first night, beat down the guy the next week.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, this time they fought all over the building,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Geto was legal the entire match, although the other two were busy fighting on the outside, so it's not like they took the night off.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But the story was that the United Empire isolated geto and defeated him with the overkill, just another little thing, newman is using one of the other guys finishing moves on them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So time bomb the night before this time he uses overkill.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Newman then said, since it's Christmas time, he was going to reveal one of the exes, as you remember, at the Tokyo dome, there are two exes on the United Empire side with, with Newman and Array, the returning and Array, and Great O'Con, video played, and it is
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he's a little somber up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He is one of the exes, and is apparently the money man behind United Empire now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's, you know, the Gideon Grey is no longer around, apparently, and so yeah, it has that background.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's one of the original in Gobernobles in Mexico.
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[SPEAKER_01]: CMLL, he and Roosh, and a few others, formed the OG in Gobernobles, which is what Naito saw
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[SPEAKER_01]: was initially rejected by the New Japan fans as a top guy, went to Mexico for a little while, joined that group, came back, lost in Gobernavelies, they hop on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So an original in Gobernavelie, and it was fun for me in post-match comics to see Shingo walk back there to go who the hell was that guy?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And who Rome would just go, yeah, he's one of the original in Gobernavelies, and Shingo just kind of goes, oh,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That kind of pisses me off a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, then this guy's you know, coming back and turning like he didn't know who the somber was, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: But
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so we still don't know who the other X is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't eliminate the rumors about night.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it doesn't, it's kind of cleverly done.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is at least the mystery about I still, I kind of doubt it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It'd be fun if it were.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's night at all.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know the way I'm doing it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't open, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: They did, but I doubt it, though, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Here's the poetry and what they did.
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[SPEAKER_00]: United Empire got Andre L. Edelo, the former was sombra, who was, you know, a member of L.O.C.
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[SPEAKER_00]: in Gunnar, I'll be a stay-hapone, the whole deal.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's been, and he's been the New Japan before.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He was in a 21 years ago.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So now, United Empire has got a guy designed to hurt the former members of L.I.J.
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[SPEAKER_00]: on the other side of the team.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Thread should be somebody to hurt the bullet club members of that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I agree with you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I am more convinced than ever of the guy at J.C.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a good one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That would be a good choice.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And furthermore, with the nighto thing, let's think about it from a business perspective.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This dome is already sold out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: When nighto comes back, it'll be a big deal, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: You don't need anyone to come up in cell tickets.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Use that later when you do need to cell tickets.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, why have nighto's return come when you've already sold out the building without it?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Am I out getting my crazy?
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[SPEAKER_00]: why, why, Stephen, why, would you?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's clear to me now that they did have a non-competed for night home for the rest of 2025 if you were just going to bring him back four days later.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's it to me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like none of that made to me, like this is all cute.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But it's still a big rumor going around that that's going to be the one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I agree with that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That to me is 100% of time that you need to get rid of like the people at top of New Japan.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because there's no reason I don't think gone if you're going to negotiate all of this for a show that does not need his presence.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Bring him back when it'll help because right now this show this show does not need help.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's it you've sold it out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's on the I can't tell if you're at the feet unless you already have a ticket.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so yeah, use it to use it to sell tickets not to.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, we'll see who that other one is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I think you're on to something with somebody to hurt the bullet club and that does make a heck of a lot of sense.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that was the fourth match on the show.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We had a couple others to go here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Nothing really happened too much.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Suji Oscar and Ice face Saber Owewa and Jackson.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There was a post match beat down from the knockout brothers on Saber and Owewa to put some heat on their upcoming tag title match.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The late both of them out and that was fairly effective.
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[SPEAKER_01]: really did.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then it was down to Tanahashi's final road against Jose Fujida.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Another really good match.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This one shorter than I mentioned.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The Desparados was the longest one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This was I believe it was the shortest one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm double checking that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, 12, 12 minutes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, wasn't very long.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Greatest hits.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But again, the point, just like in the Tokyo Dome, the main event is the retirement ceremony.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The main event to this show was time at Hashu Saga by the Cork and Hall.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he felt it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He was in all the fields there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There were tears.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There was a wave that was more air guitar and a fan service at the end.
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[SPEAKER_01]: very emotional farewell to a guy who has had some of the most important matches in the building history.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And there it is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: His final one against co-safews who did a good job in the match, by the way, good match.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But this was all about Tana.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And in the end, Fujida, again, you know, deep bow all the respect and then on to the post-match post-match festivities with him just saying goodbye to the most
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[SPEAKER_00]: Honohashi's last match in Corrigan Hall.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, you just say that trend after you're like, damn, it's real, man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like this is over.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And...
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[SPEAKER_00]: From the moment, Tana Hashi left over the rope to hit the ace's high, you could hear the rise in the crowd, where they're just like, this is, this is it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's take it all in.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And from that moment on, that crowd, go to him love from the end of the match, until they left their seats.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he showed them love back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was honestly,
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[SPEAKER_00]: where I was thinking about it when we were talking about something else a few minutes earlier.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I think it might be my favorite moment in New Japan in 2025.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's the Tonohashi Fairwell in Corrican because
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[SPEAKER_00]: You saw in that moment how special the relationship between the wrestler and the fans truly is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And we haven't really seen that tap into, be tapped into in the current generation.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's something that they're gonna have to work to work.
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[SPEAKER_00]: In granted, Tonahashi said 20 years to get to this point and he milked it for all of us worth it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't mean that as a bad thing, because like this is a victory lap.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's on the last way of the victory lab.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You get to do whatever the hell you want, dude.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you carry wrestling on your back for 20 years?
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[SPEAKER_00]: We get back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We watch you ride.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's a good point.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I will still take Goto's victory over Zack, is my favorite moment of the year to see Goto hit the top in the mountain, but this was special.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This was definitely special.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think if the ride had been a little bit different for Gono, I think I would have done there, but I felt like they just kind of told us that it was more of a fan service thing that they were doing rather than like a legitimate direction and change and change in mentality.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And this was as authentic as it gets.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we mentioned that Elfantassement and Chris Brooks has been added to the card.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We now know the other teams, all of the teams that are going to be in the never open weight six man championship, tornado rainbow, a mouth full of a mouth full of a match name.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So here they are.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We have the Champions, Toriano, yo, and Master Watto.
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[SPEAKER_01]: uh... kaisy that was one thing that i didn't mention kaisy to kaisy helped out show to umanou and uia ua mora in the uh... coricon hall show i get to say them from say them from post-match attack from outstructure clean house hit a beautiful dropkick
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I can't say to Kashi, who is impossibly good looking, good lord.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He says a handsome guy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: A member of a J.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Pop group is a DDT wrestler, so he's got the pop star thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's got the pro wrestling thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He is going to be teeming with Umano and Uemura, they cemented that in Corkin Hall as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's another team in there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hero Kigoto Yoshihashi and Bolton Oleg to meet on paper on paper, maybe the favorites to win the thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Strong team, strong team.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Zach Saber, Jr. in Rio.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, we will be on the Tokyo Dome show.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll be in the tornado match for no one's really going to be able to shine.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Heartly Jackson is the third there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We love heartly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're big fans of his, but he's the guy that gets beat usually.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't see them winning it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So they can get pinned and committed or thrown over a top rope.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I believe that is the case.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: God.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Tony Makabay Tiger mask and we just get to Gucci the team we talked about earlier.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Ice and Oscar will be in there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The knockout brothers in there with Clark Combs who is returning for this match.
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[SPEAKER_01]: January 4th.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We have a tent for a while.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Awesome.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so, again, that's a guy that can probably lose the fall for ECE to HE and Kojima.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then Rennerita Sanada and Yoshinobu kind of Maru are the House of Torture.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No problem.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We end up winning it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, there you have it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So those are the changes to the Tokyo Dome card along with on Dr. A. L. E. Delo added to that match with Great O'Con, Calam Numan, Henare and one more X.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Again, Shingo Takagi, David Finlay, Gabe Kid, Drillamologi, Haromu Takahashi.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that'll be, that's the third match.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we're going to get a lot of these surprises out of the way early and then you kind of know how it's all going to wrap up because we have
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[SPEAKER_01]: The IWGP Junior Heavyweight Championship number one contenders four away.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I still thank Jeremy, here's my prediction.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I still think we're gonna see Doki that he is either going to try to help show.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's gonna interfere in some way.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Perhaps if they really wanted to throw a twist in, the winner of this match gets their title match like they're immediately, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you do it, really.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Evil versus Wolfe, to catch the versus Suji and Tanahashi versus Sokata, we've talked about quite a bit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No changes to those shows.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No extra stipulations added.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Here they are.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I mentioned it last week, but I thought it was so bizarre that up until like the the very road Tokyo don't.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We hadn't seen Dokey since he made the like announcement that he was like the guy and there's nobody to challenge him and it's like, all right, and you're just beer nose, what a wow.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He just gone going for a while and he's coming back after wrestling them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But nope, you showed up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Here we are and all
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[SPEAKER_01]: And we know that somewhere here Oeshe is back in Japan.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Again, didn't wrestle on Cork and Hall, but he came out with Tahiti.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He also came out with Tahini Hashie, held the ropes form a little bit later, which got two more weeks to heal up, good for him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that was good to see him back in there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And endorsing his team with Kojima, he made comments backstage that he felt like they could all excel as a team together.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So he's on board, basically.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This isn't a skeptical partner situation.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The other thing that happens this time of year every year is the kind of course so the body building contest and that has Voting is open.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You can go ahead and look at the physics and things and the in the on the NJP W 1972 web page.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a pretty diverse group Jeremy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a lot of members of Han Thai, including to Gucci who's always a fun entry and
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[SPEAKER_01]: But there are Robbie Eagles and Shane Haste joining a remotely from Eagles choice of outfits is always fun.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Sia Iita from startup.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She's in there again a couple of dragons gate wrestlers three of them and then PPP Tokyo we've got that we have.
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[SPEAKER_01]: a staff member, an NJPW events department guy, Dike Yagai, who is absolutely ripped, Jeremy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This guy, he's not a pro wrestler.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He just works for New Japan.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The guy's got a hell of a physique.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Matsumoto, the young lion there, who's a former personal trainer, I think looks great.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Zayn J.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Better than I had anticipated here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then some of these guy, the dragon kid really built Yuki Yoshioca.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I,
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[SPEAKER_01]: How how is as I believe how you pronounce it that guy has a hell of a physique as well, Cantaro Hachisu.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So a lot of good choices this year, Jeremy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's going to be a tough tough vote.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And of course, I got a few things to do on the fine cryptocurrency, but if I get to it, although on which which male anatomical figure is the most aesthetically appealing to me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, last year's winner was Doki.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's not in this year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Of course, still playing up the heel persona.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's forado is in, and he does have clothes on this year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So let's change it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you draw a win like two years ago?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'd have to look that up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But we have a late entry as well, and that is our holy emperor, Tahiti.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Good for him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What a bit of housekeeping here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We have the merchandise for the meet-up
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, where is this thing?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Here we go.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We have the merchandise for the meet-up at Hub British Pub at noon at the Tokyo Dome for all the listeners of the show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Keep it a strong style.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We work stiff and superjacast.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That merchandise will be open until December 28th.
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[SPEAKER_00]: At that point, we are closing the shop and donating all proceeds
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[SPEAKER_00]: to lyric in Danny feeding America charity drive that they did through Twitter and social media over the last couple of days where they raised $2,400 of that under their original $500.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we'll add a little bit more to that and to a good cause I didn't really care about making money on any of this stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is all just for fun.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So
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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, we're gonna send it to a good cause and uh, yeah, if you're in Japan, join us in Hubbedburg pub or whatever event.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you see me there and you recognize me, come say hi.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll probably be by yourself or one or two other people, but whatever, say hi.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's no gatekeeping here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Come on, bye.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so this whole thing is all about this this community of pro wrestling fans and and just enjoying the festivities around the biggest shows of the year and their loads of them this week.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I hope everybody does say hi and enjoy that as well and meet up some of the other podcasts.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So two more than one we got the day of show.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Don't forget.
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[SPEAKER_01]: this month.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But they've show on Monday.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that is dropping on Monday.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then that we are still going to be here doing this show next Thursday at our regular time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So again, this bonus content is that is not replacing anything.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We've got Dave on Monday and then we'll be back with a live show again Thursday.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Jeremy is going to be from a smaller hotel room that he's prepared for.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't know how small my apartment is, buddy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, all right, but you think you're ready for Japanese hotel rooms.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then you're in line.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I mean, they're, yeah, so they're perfectly nice, but they get this job done.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's all I need.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But he will be joining us there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Brighton Bush, Brad.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I wish you tailed in the morning on a day of like one time to me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But Jeremy been joining us from Japan.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll be here back in the states and we will do a live show here here about Jeremy's first few adventures over in Japan.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll talk about any news that comes up and go over rumors and what and some of the things I'm going to do might come my way that I'm willing to talk about.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, well, yeah, and that'll be what January 2nd for you or you Jeremy, that'll be January 2nd, which means you can tell us a little bit about that Noah show and because that might have some repercussions, who knows there might be some new Japan representation on that show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There might be, yeah, so I'm looking forward to all that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll be going to the Noah show the DDT show and the rest of the kingdom show when I'm there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The last thing that I wanted to do Steven.
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[SPEAKER_00]: not particularly to the show or anything like that was what I wanted to thank you to I wanted to thank everyone at fight game media and three I wanted to thank all of our fans for the support and everything that had happened for us this year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like we've had a really strong growth and with their ship and loyalty and taking chance is doing a number of different
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it makes me very happy and I just wanted to extend my thankfulness for each and every one of you the fear and going forward.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely, totally agree.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so happy holidays to everybody.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I hope you've enjoyed today.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And we are going to wrap this one up here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I said, a bit of a shorter show this week.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Only the road to shows to talk about the plenty coming up ahead, including that Dave Meltzer interview on Monday.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So enjoy the holiday, everybody.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it's just, we hope that everyone's just having a wonderful time with their family or however he is celebrating.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll re-center and get back to what's important if you forget that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This holiday season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: all right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So once again, thanks to everybody who joined us here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Thanks to everyone who's listening to this later on YouTube or as a podcast, we appreciate your time for Jeremy Feinstein.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm Stephen Conway.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This has been Speaking of Strong Style and we'll talk to you again real soon.