NJPW News: New Japan Cup 2026 Preview & New Beginning USA Card | Speaking of Strong Style

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[SPEAKER_00]: There is one day left in the Fantastica Mania 2026 tour.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We've seen some really good singles matches from the Luchia guys and a little bit of blending of the strong style and Luchia style over the course of the tour.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So many angles that we're going to talk about.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Fantastica Mania isn't.

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[SPEAKER_00]: particularly canon in the traditional sense.

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[SPEAKER_00]: A lot of the things that happened on fantastic, many don't really carry over to the rest of the tour.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it's a lot of fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The fans seem to be enjoying it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we're going to talk about what we've seen this week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're also going to be looking ahead quite a bit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a big preview show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We have New beginning, USA.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We should be pretty consequential.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There is also one more work on a whole show that has a sent-off for a young lion.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We also have the first night of the New Japan Cup Tournament.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So there's plenty coming when it comes to New Japan canon to go along with this fantastic amazing fun tour.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we're going to get into all that and we have a goodbye as well that we're going to have to cover here too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's a mixed candidate folks, but we're going to get right to it, which every fight stone.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm Stephen Conway and this is Speak Give Strong Style.

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[SPEAKER_00]: welcome everyone to speaking strong style we discussed the news issues and events surrounding new Japan pro wrestling and we're contributors to the fight game media network and Jeremy before we get started on everything I know that there's something that you wanted to talk about a little bit off the top of the show uh something that has been going on in your world and their

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, Stephen, you know that I had what we call a shit week in the business.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Anyone who's ever had a four-way gig companion knows that one day, you have to take a buy, and you're not ready to, but you have to.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that came the week, and it was bummer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But this, everybody, oh, let's see here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do we do it?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There we go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was my dog Georgia.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She had 12 good years.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's the best.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I will miss her.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And now we will get back to our regularly scheduled programming after everyone knows how much I want that dog.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, George has, you know, been a part of your life for a long time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like you said for 12 years.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm very sorry you guys had to go through that this week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, I appreciate that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's one of those things where you have to like kind of work through the emotion and like tell people at work and tell your friends.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And there were a lot of people really invested in that dog.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I got in those conversations.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've had a lot of dogs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've once growing up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I wasn't really there for like when it was their time, before my parents and then like relationships there were dogs here there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like this one was like mine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, and that one could a little different.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But

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[SPEAKER_01]: I help grow, help grow, help me get to the life I have here today and I'm very grateful for that dog.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you have, well, Georgia had a brother Cole, who, uh, I'm trying to show him the show here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So he hanged out when he had time for him to eat like this, this is the most food driven like kind dog.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They were too completely different dogs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Georgia is more like a cat.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't love me from afar and tell it like time for time for time for me to like say it's okay or feeding all that right I would call her my goblin dog Okay time to time because she's got like tanky teeth and you know she's cute, but she's also like a true wall

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can imagine, I still have a couple of bite marks from the last week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just, you know, safety and tells you wasn't, but, you know, when you have a dog, or you have a cat.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you're like, they're person.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're the one that notices when they start to slow down.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, like, you're the one that notices, you know, maybe they're not eating a touch or a sleep and all the longer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: or all of those things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so in the time came to make that call, like you gotta be honest with yourself because being too early will always be better than being too late with your pet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hmm, there you go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And some thoughts there from the crowd here for an Anosias is here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hello for Nanna glad you're with us.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You said sorry.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Consolences Jordan from Canada says, I still think about my dog every day.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not sad though.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She was such a funny, newfundler.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Newfies are a blast.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And enormous also enormous.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we have a pretty big dog ourselves.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We've got to need a big dog.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All of it had a really small dog.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, like, but a big dog.

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[SPEAKER_01]: like a golden retriever, just a stupid, stupid goofy golden retriever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm tall, I need a life, my man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Why even even goal here is baby, basically like a puppy golden retriever in a lot of ways, where he's just like, he's the golden retriever that I'll never grow up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he's so afraid of every other dog that it's just like he loses his mind.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like he's like, yeah, I'm going to bark and scream in yellow.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're going to like, show out if we go, okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Don't have rocks, but can't believe how much he's grown and learned and trained.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Don't do really spark creatures, even though I'm actively calling him an idiot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They are, they are intuitive, they're special, and he tells me when it's time to go to bed.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It got me pretty funny.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If I stay up to late, he runs in from the bedroom and he just stares at me and shamed me until excited about that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, Dad, we have a routine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, uh, special Russians, I probably won't ever have kids.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So the pants are pretty much the closest thing to having kids.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so if I'm not on my game, I didn't, I wasn't lofty, I don't have to come.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to hear, I think I, I think I was in the thick of it from my third state Sunday, so I watched some of Tuesday and I watched some of it today and it was fine, but like it was not, it was not the tape that stick to the wall, as that's, if that's the best way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to talk about fantasy and just some of the better matches that we saw over the course of the week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll take a look at that, sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, this is mostly going to be a preview show, but we did have, I want to mention one other thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I managed to, as far as live wrestling goes, so the course, New beginning USA, that's not in the part of the country.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm from, not the part of the country, you're from.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I need to want to also be there live, but I am going to be seeing Tokyo-Joshi Pro Wrestling Live right here in Texas.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They are coming to Texas.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I have picked up tickets to CTJPW in the next month.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I'm excited.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're coming here for South by Southwest.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The big festival we have, the tech music and film.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what it often.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's yeah, and so yeah, if they're coming just about six miles from my house, I better show up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I'm going to TJPW and so girlfriends going with me might have another friend along as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we're going to check that I will be going to a live show to I believe.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think a friend of the show Dave is taking me to the AEW show when it hits the San Jose Civic on March 11, which is right around the corner for my house, where they do the New Japan

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're doing the AEW on collision right before revolution.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't know if it's going to be the most action-pack show with the top stars because they're all if you get ready for the weekend, but it should be an experience to go with Dave's to.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'll tell, if I see it at any Tony's, I'll tell him how what you think about it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And by the way, Brad also, uh, series says, uh, sending condolences to you and your family.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Thanks, Brad.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I appreciate it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, it's good to talk about it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, guys, the world must continue.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We all, we all go through this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And like, I have grieved for a long time before she was even like gone just for variety of reasons that, uh,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not going to go into, but there was a sense of loss with her for a while.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just couldn't have her full time, but she agreed with me for the last couple of weeks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it was, it was better fleet, but I don't have any regrets.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, fair enough.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So all right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, one of the mentioned, uh, what we're certainly wanted to let you talk about that a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, appreciate some sort of transition into, uh, into wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, let's talk about literally, Brad, because I had a chihuahua that was from a town called Walkonville, which I really liked there, which will be Brad.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So web pivot into the which will be Brad that we got the

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we did get some what we saw was mostly from Osaka they had a show at ATC Hall in Osaka one from the Indiana arena gym number two There were other shows in there one in Nagoya one in Kochi and those weren't broadcast on TV.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Those were strictly houses, but the ones we got from Osaka were quite enjoyable.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm bringing up the notes about it

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[SPEAKER_00]: When I wanted to mention, we're some of the best ones.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I would say that if you go back and recommend matches to watch, mascara, Dorada, and Miestiko's tag team tournament, they're matches are always highlights.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But one against Valiente and Futuro, this follows a pattern that's going on throughout the years in Fantastic America, Fantastic Amadia, Jeremy, in which they bring

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[SPEAKER_00]: Some of the top guys, of course, and we've got a lot of the top guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is pretty loaded lineup for Fantasica Mani this year to get Mystico and Mascara Dorada and Hercicero and Tempilario and Ultimo Guerrero, but they also bring some younger guys over each year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And this year, Futuro, Valiente, Jr. both fairly young wrestlers, not necessarily rookies, but Varada Igma.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Instead, we've seen Stigma a little bit before too, but it's worth noting all the way back, and Chris Charlton mentioned it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So Barano Jr. was almost a rookie the first time he came over for a fantastic, and now he's one of the very top heels in the business.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And at Lonti's Jr., he mentioned his debut as at Lonti's Jr. was part of Fantastic Amania, and he had

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[SPEAKER_00]: a handful of matches for a little while, just kind of getting his feet wet because CMLL is a pretty tough pool that just jump right into off the diving board, you got.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he did some independence under another name, but his Atlantis Junior debut came in in Fantasco, Mania Tour.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he's now one of the top-level guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's worth watching both the legends, of course, and then checking out who, because they send their best prospects to fantastic media for this experience.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I thought Fruturo did a heck of a job on this tour.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's a terrific wrestler, valianta is very exciting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And any tag team match with Mascara Darada and Mestico's is going to be terrific.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, oh yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that one in particular in that tag team tournament was an excellent match in Osaka at ATC Hall.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Soberado Jr. Templario and Hedgesera had a three way that was a lot of fun to watch.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, but deep in Ion for Toro, I mean, it's right in the name, isn't it?

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[SPEAKER_00]: But he's a talent to do and the fact that they are sending him to Fantastic Amania, early in his career, says they think he's really talented as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, one of the things that I remember talking to you about last week was how a potentially a way that that whole tag team tournament was going to go and out, basically, Matt, Matt News and a Vrno taking the match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So everybody at some point in each tournament going all the way to the end, and I got, we got to that second match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, start off with this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, it's really, you know, like yellow some paces and you know, I wasn't really locked in, but, but I caught that and I'm like, oh, sort of a bitch, you know, like we weren't, we weren't dealing with deep equation booking here, you know what I mean, like

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[SPEAKER_01]: They revitted it from stuff today.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, uh, the single's magic today.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So somewhat called sequential, especially that of verno match, uh, it was, it was pretty tremendous.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, it's always just a spotlight.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, you got the Ocarma coming back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like to show she could team, uh, just kind of get everybody getting a little bit of play here and there, um,

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[SPEAKER_01]: from the Mexico tour and, you know, I like the Black Tiger, you know, the Tiger Matt stuff with Magnus.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought that added a little extra spice to everything.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe wasn't, you know, the hottest thing in all of pro wrestling, but, you know, just give a little extra pepper to the Fantastic Dominion's Eye.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And

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[SPEAKER_01]: In the, in the background, you know, you got a couple little little thing like Zane Jave developing his character, you, you've got Zane J and Templario working together and really like kind of strengthening the United Empire belongs and you also got T-Ton, a fish with confirming he's part of unbound company, so there are little things here and there throughout the shows that, you know,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Fair enough, but a couple other matches to look out for in Osaka at the Eddie on Arena, a number two, Jim number two there, the small room, which drew well by the way, the tour has been drawing fairly well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The only one was down was Nagoya.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Nagoya was down about 300 from last year, everything else about where it is, and they pretty much filled Corrican Hall today that they were up in the balconies and some people were excited to see it out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the other show, the one from the 24th, they both, the earlier in the week shows were both from Osaka, just different arenas.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Atlantis, Atlantis, Jr., and Templario versus Sobarano, Ultima Guerrero, and Hichicero, is a lot of fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then the Titan tournament finals, Mista Cohen, Mascara, Dorada versus Magnus, and Overno, those are worth watching as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Overno,

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[SPEAKER_00]: is a veteran guy, he's lost his mask, just like Ultimo Guerrero did, years and years and years ago, Ultimo Guerrero lost his mask.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He likes to wear it every once in a while in Japan because he's not allowed to in Mexico.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There are surprisingly strict rules in Mexico that involves your wrestling license, not just the promotions themselves, but there's a pretty strict commission in Mexico to become a luchador.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You have to pass a test.

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[SPEAKER_00]: In order to do like a physical test, like they run you through drills to make sure that you're capable of doing they have very strict rules, once you lose your mask, you cannot put that mask back on and try to run it, but it's not to make me laugh because it is it's shows me the the ability to keep k-fabe together, man, like legitimate legitimate paperwork.

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[SPEAKER_00]: At some point, someone got things pushed through the government that said that if you lose your mask and then come back in your in your mask and try to draw money as a mass wrestler, they you defrauded the people who paid

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so Guerrero can't wear his mask in the ring in Mexico.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He'll lose his license.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He will not be able to make a living anymore.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So with all that, once you're in Japan, those rules aren't there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he can wear his mask.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sometimes, I usually take it off at some point during the match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it verno's lost his mask and thanks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But that guy, a verno, had one of the better weeks of anybody out here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And not just in results, but his matches were

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[SPEAKER_00]: If I were making a list of great loot stores to make sure you watch, if you get that YouTube subscription, I've earned it would normally be down a ways on that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think I'm going to have to have a red song to this tour.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he really seemed energized and and wrestled very well, wrestled very well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can't.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, I was watching the giggle match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He had today like, where the shit did this guy come from?

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's been there all along, but he really turned on the jets and you mentioned Magnus playing into the whole Tiger Mass thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's wearing kind of a black tiger inspired mask.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's ripped the mask off of our Tiger Mass, Newspand's Tiger Mass, a couple of times leading to a singles match tomorrow.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Adlani's junior in the tag team tournament.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mentioned last week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They don't job him very often and that was to set up and historic light heavyweight title match that took place today terrific match and they switched the title and Adlani's junior I was expecting them to do that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, nobody was, and Linus Junior's held that title for three years.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he, and he, the beat, and Linus Junior for it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So they had a concept for it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Not only did he beat him, he beat his ass at the very end of that match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the whole thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No doubt, he was the better man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Worst man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, hitting the devil's wings three times and then getting the submission it was yeah, I was a very decisive victory right there and then, of course, they Something that frequently happens with Luxury Libra is even when the heels win at the end.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's a moment of sportsmanship.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They shook hands cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, To have the torture Magnouth black tiger.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're having like a plotting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: that happens in mask matches as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: When title matches, mask versus mask, hair versus hair, like when a heel wrestler will lose a mask, he will take his mask off, hand it to the guy who beat him and shake his hand.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That that is,

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's very rarely shenanigans after, in fact, one of my favorite was the sombra when he lost his mask.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I tried to delete a low.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He lost it and handed it over and he was part of in-gobanoblice, the original in-gobanoblice.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, then not the night's over version, but the original.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, rooches there and some of the other members of that group and they were like, don't shake a sand, don't shake a sand and k-fa even things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he just says, nope, this is the way we do things to loot your labor and he shook a sand.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and held it up and handed his mask over to him so that there are protocols to all of this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And even the heels follow through and say,

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is one of the things I enjoy about Fantasca, Mania, seeing some of that other style, that very different Luchelibrary style over here and seeing those aspects of it in Japan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And some of that stuff works very well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It gets a good response from the crowd.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The idea of, I have been defeated, and I'm gonna shake, I'm gonna be a man and shake the man's, be a grown-up about it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That doesn't have to be gender-specific, Stephen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But just the idea that I'm going to put the belt on the guy that beat me for it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, that touches that whole honor spirit that Japan holds dear, you know, conducting yourself with honor and that touches all of those notes that the Japanese fans love.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it works here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I thought, I thought the whole delivery system, the way that they did that match, really, they built it up over the course of a couple of shows, you know, like they made the challenge and all of these things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so, bye.

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[SPEAKER_01]: the time we got to the match, there was an air of like heaviness to it, like this match mattered.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then the match, I don't know, maybe like 10 minutes into it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, like, it's pretty good match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, and then we got to the finish and it was just like Chris Charlton just sold the heck out of it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Really.

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[SPEAKER_00]: he was really good and he's really good on this show today.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so most of the shows didn't have we'll have English broadcast later on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was all in Japanese, but since they were at court in Hall today, Chris Charlton was able to do the live broadcast.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He basically gave context to everything that had happened up to that point with this one show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So

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[SPEAKER_01]: Today it shows really the best show for you to jump into, and if you really want to jump around to some of these other matches that Stephen mentioned, that's probably the play.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, yeah, no, I just, the whole thing really good, the match, the whole setup of that match, might be the best thing of the whole weekend, of the whole weekend.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The cast changed as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, we're wondering, is there anything worth watching that has new Japan guys in it?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And not a ton that most of the best stuff is the Luchador versus Luchador things is they're trying hard.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Even though these are small crowds, compared to what they're used to in Mexico, they work very hard.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They wanted to impress the Japanese crowds.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That were there and just a different scale of things, but they, they wrestle very well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, the ones that I would say that have new Japan wrestlers in them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would say the unbound company matches because most of those guys issue morey, sushi, know how to work, Lucha.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll stop you in a second on that one, but you keep going.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Shingo's good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They know how to work with it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The Marlo Junior stuff is a lot of fun when Susan puts the mask on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Shingo struggled today because he decided he was going to do a luchador gimmick today and he was in a mask that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: he struggled with not just keeping it on but his peripheral vision was shot and this is guy that can usually work with anyone and he was he was having a hard time today.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He couldn't really see like he normally does but for the most part I would say on bound company seven dyking a guy always works hard as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think if you're going to go back and say what's a match with a new Japan wrestler in it that would be those would be the ones the on bound companies.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So the match on the 24th in Osaka, okay, okay, that was the eight man between to Gucci, Esparado, Ficero, Matt Smoto, and then both Soldiers, Shingo, Philip Marlon, T-Ton.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We know that Philip Marlon is, you know, the suitchy in both Soldiers,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yoda Suji has not been the top guy for very, very well, but you can tell that he's been watching the videos of how to do nothing in a match before a big match and it's the top guy, because that's what he wants to do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, but he had before he flew out for the New Beginning show was an amazing display of I ain't doing anything that's gonna get you hurt.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's true.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and court by the likes of the cast changes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So for most soka ishimori desparado suji All those guys headed over to the states and they're not on these two cork and haul shows there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you It's a much more luchador loaded lineup that we're getting the these two days at cork and a lot of the guys have has headed states I will tell you I fell for it today at the show when they said that shingo look dare to a family emergency

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, no, cause of the beginning they do the announcement and they did the Tai E. G. She Mori and Yoda suit you on earlier on in the tour and like again guys my head's not in in like like walked in on this so they're like oh that's too bad I hope she goes okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You've got a family emergency.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He just got married I wonder what can be the issue and then we get to the fourth match on the show and and he's He's a Guerrero

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm trying to, I want to get the name right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They had Hatsu Saratu Guerrero.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Hatsu, Hatsu, Hatsu, Hatsu, Ratsu Guerrero was a name, which I guess is a Guerrero warrior full of energy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Denergenic warrior, energetic warrior.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Dracking Guerrero should have been what you should have been called.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I wonder if there already is a Rio Guerrero.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I wonder if there already is one somewhere.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, so yeah, I thought I thought it was pretty amusing that I got, I trod myself and completely whiffed on the gag that they've been doing, the entire tour, and yet I fell for it when they did it yet again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's one thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: My Japanese is good enough that I heard them announce his

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[SPEAKER_00]: the other guy that will be taking shingo's place and I realize, okay, that's what he's doing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, so the other one, by the way, the main event today, MassCard, Dorada, and Heterocero, terrific match again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Dorada did something I haven't seen anybody do in New Japan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He,

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[SPEAKER_00]: they fought all the way over to the bleachers on the west side.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And once they climbed those bleachers normally, of course, Jeremy, the trope, a cork and haul, is to take your opponent up and bounce his head off and sign the says, what is this?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, so I mentioned this when I was in Japan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I pointed at that sign to Ginger and I said some of the greatest wrestlers in the world's heads, it bounced off that sign over the year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he, they didn't go that way, they went over into the corner and he moved that scaffolding they used to hold up the new Japan entrance, the entrance they used there, the metal scaffolding.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Then he climbed the scaffolding and did a moon sewed off the scaffolding to the floor, which kind of wowed

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so that got a nice reaction.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll talk about it in a jump.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Mascara Dorada, we said it last week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll be probably be saying until I'm blue in the face.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Whenever Misticot decides to slow down or step back, that is the man that will mean event arena Mexico week after week and be the idol of everyone.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he's the second Mascara Dorada.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We've had this guy is the truth.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Considering how well that company is doing, it will probably take eight out of that of money to get him away from that spot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But Mascarara Dorada, this is the dude he is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's charismatic, he's athletic, and very exciting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he's the next star of the next top star.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's already a star.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's already a main of it star.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But the guy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Mystico took over from Atlantis, basically, that, you know, Atlantis had been the hero of heroes for a long time, Mystico left.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Then Mystico went to the, you know, the WWE and in that period, there were others that were the top guy, but they didn't really settle on one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: When he came back,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Mystico is the guy again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, chorizico, Mystico, all through that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We've gone through that saga before.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they have another one in the wings, just the talent keeps coming.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so, Barano, fantastic.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Fantastic.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They definitely have like about five or six guys in that late 20s, early 30s range that can be carrying the company for quite a bit of time moving forward.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I need to I need to correct myself for something I just said like a few minutes ago.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The Schinger-Tikagi Hot-Curot Cougarero was not in that foreman, not in that eight man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was on the 24th.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He was actually in a tag today with Old Timoca Rero.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Again, it's seeing Jay and Temporio.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's where they did the NL plant.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's where he wore the mask.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I looked at my note and I was like, I think it's not right about my explanation here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Getting a fantastic a mania detail wrong.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, all right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, we were we striped for accuracy here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I do now

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So the other thing that's kind of going on with these is we're seeing Shomekato's final matches before he goes on excursion as they mentioned.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's going to go get on the plane with the guys and go back to Mexico City when this tour is over.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we got to see him in some singles, some tags and things is very last one is tomorrow morning tomorrow morning here in the US time anyway, but the Gorken show tomorrow.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's, you can't predict these things because whatever my opinion is, it's going to be too long.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If it's more than a year, it's too damn long because they would waste too much of these guys' careers on excursion.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What you doubt for a year then.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think it's going to be more than that, but it's a bad idea.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you have something in it?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you know?

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[SPEAKER_00]: They do a lot of bad ideas nowadays, but it's too long.

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[SPEAKER_00]: These guys shouldn't be coming back to start their new Japan careers proper, you know, young lines stuff with the gimmick, with music, with a story, when they're in their late 20s.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They need to be doing it quicker than that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I have another question for you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you think it possible, the Shoma Kato ends up on AEW programming through a CMLL?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, geez.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're going to look either way, like you're in the looping phase, but I'm just like between the arrangement between all three.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, Rocky Romero, talking about how so important the CMLL, AEW and New Japan are all in the Hawaii together.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's important.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: WD is a WWE.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to be asking from that frame of reference.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you think that something like that where a young lion from New Japan who did CMLL might end up in like a CMLL AEW arrangement match?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's all right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You might.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, like in any in any in any way shape

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, into that one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They made some to the face as just whatever, whatever he's feeling that way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, all right, all right, you want to preview speaking of AEW adjacent, you want to preview this new to beginning show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to talk about the cork and haul show tomorrow first.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we've got a couple of things about that to mention.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So Shoma Kato's sent off against a vernal.

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[SPEAKER_00]: A vernal is the last match there that Kato will have in New Japan for now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: After that, there's a...

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[SPEAKER_00]: House of torture, preview thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Eho Day, Stuka Jr. has kind of been an Honorary House of torture member.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He'll be in there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Tiger mask will face magnets that's going to be the special singles match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the Atlantis is a junior and the rent Atlantis original teaming with Taguchi against Okamura, Stosh Kajima and Hachisera.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okamura, of course, his wife and him is Shimoto.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She got to take her bump today.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She always likes to take a bump during

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, she usually likes to take a suplex to get knocked around a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And let's see here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We've got unbound company Shingo, T-Ton, and Iking the guy against valiente, futuro, and mascara, Dorada.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That should be pretty good overall right there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And

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[SPEAKER_00]: The two singles matches to end at Tempilario versus Ultimogarero and for the world light heavyweight title, Mystico versus Sobarano Jr. without exaggeration.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Tempilario versus Ultimogarero, Mystico versus Sobarano Jr.

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[SPEAKER_00]: These could be main events in arena Mexico.

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[SPEAKER_00]: These are big matches.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I really look forward to this main event.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to sound like a door when I say this, but a kick-mature app.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I look like, so Marano is on the way up and he's a mentally talented and if the go, he's getting flowers who's one of the best in the world over the last couple of years.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they're not taking the night off here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, they are, if they're not wrestling hard, they're still being the showman in between wrestling hard in the last night and getting on a plane and being good showman,

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to go home with some of the defensive.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So two shows tomorrow.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So of course the time difference doesn't make it feel like it's the same day, but it is kind of the same day.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The fantastic menu show will be up and running once we're all awake and human again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And in the evening though, US time, we will have new beginning, USA.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So let's take a look at that card.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Jeremy, they are leading off with David Finlay versus Fred Rosser.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is the opening match of New beginning US saying, in case you were wondering if there are any plans for David Finlay going forward at New Japan for a wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He is jerk in the curtain against Fred Rosser, who's a talented guy, a major part of the LA Dojo, as far as training wrestlers and being a leader for those guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is the true, oh, yeah, we already booked him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I guess David Finlay, Mash, because his farewell his farewell came at the new beginning show back in Japan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was when he hugged ghetto.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's when he touched the lion mark sign.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This when he did his bow.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And here he is in the opening match of new beginning U.S.A. against Fred Russell.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's on his way out, but Fred Rothers is kind of Fred Rothers, I feel like this is more to, you know, like

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[SPEAKER_01]: give him a nice little send off for the American fans.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They want to, you know, see him off.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think he's going to WWE, you know, it seems like, you know, like his whole family, maybe NFT, that kind of thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I, you, you look at all these other wrestlers that went out and they didn't go out of the pack or all who didn't lose on his way out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All these other guys didn't lose.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't really think Fenlu is going to lose.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think he's going to have a pretty cold match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And,

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, based off of the way that ticket sold for this show, like kind of think that you're going to get a reaction.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we've talked about it on this show before.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The idea of you have to lose your last match on the way out is such a cliche that's not particularly true when put under scrutiny.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you look at major wrestlers who have left companies, the idea of dramatically losing your final match to put over the next guy doesn't really happen all that often.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and hasn't happened all that often historically.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's kind of a thing that promoters like to say to try to convince wrestlers to do whatever they want them to do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's really more of what that is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And now the internet wrestling community has decided to really take up for it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You should lose on your way out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's not really a thing, guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's not.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not a real thing anyway.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's an internet thing now, but yeah, there it is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Brad is actually this card is really solid.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Stupid, this can be important, by the way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Stupid weather here in the Northeast, keeping me from going.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That keeps Brad from attending this show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hopefully, it might keep more than Brad away, because the weather in the Northeast is horrendous.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The weather is not good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right now, the current set of the 2900, they added seats for a week ago.

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[SPEAKER_01]: almost 2500 tickets.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They have about 400 available tickets left to go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's important.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They've distributed that many tickets that doesn't mean they've sold that many tickets.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, that's about 2900 and they're 400 available.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Here's what here's why that's important.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to mention this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Here's something that here's a little thing that some of these and I'm not naming anyone company is almost all of them do it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You can hand a group of 50

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[SPEAKER_00]: veterans groups, for instance, to school systems for honor role students and things like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And say, you know, here you go, here's something to as a reward to hand out to people or the way I've heard of veterans groups, those are just like here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Every free, you know, we thank you for your service.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then they can write that up as 50 tickets distributed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Those tickets are sold.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And those tickets might not even be used.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it goes under

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[SPEAKER_00]: that list of distributed tickets right there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I want I just want to talk about that because keep that in mind whenever you look at some of that wrestle thick stuff, the word distributed is important.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That doesn't mean that that's how many people paid money to see the show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: For sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, looking at the looking at the the feeding chart and look

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[SPEAKER_01]: 25% of the tickets in the new open area, but the majority of the tickets are written side.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we'll click them off to them to take it for the ones that are still available.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so keep that in mind.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm not saying that the show's doing fine financially and all that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It looks like a decent crowd.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just saying, I brought that the weather

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[SPEAKER_00]: It looks half empty or something like that might not be that the company was lying about how many tickets.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it could be it could legitimately be that people who bought tickets can't get there in this case in this case could be the could be a thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we'll have to keep an eye on that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So just as you're watching the show just remember that that could be some you hear that all the time Well, you know the weather outside's been tough, and that's why nobody showed up to this crap show But in this case, this is not a crap show on paper They have distributed a lot of tickets sold quite a few but not everybody might be able to get there could be a trope could be problem there So we'll see

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, Fred Ruster David Finlay, after that we have the strong openweight championship.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is second on the card.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Tomahiro Ishii, the champion facing Oleg Bolton, and should be, you know, the classic hard-hitting match, Ishii has

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[SPEAKER_00]: dial back his act and boil the down to five things now that he can still physically do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's not the worker he used to be.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He doesn't try to be.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He knows his body can't really do it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's 50 now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I know how I feel.

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[SPEAKER_00]: at that age.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I can't, I don't have anywhere near the miles on me, the Tomahiro Ishii does.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So just keep in mind, the Ishii that used to have barn burning, tear the house down, blow the roof off matches and New Japan is gone.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he's probably in the right spot doing stuff over there and he's basically an AEW wrestler now, more than he's a New Japan wrestler.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This will be fine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Don't expect to hold a lot because really it's Ishi only does a few things now and Bolton is still learning piece by piece so but strong open way championship match between Ishi and Bolton should have a couple of spots in the match that will be entertaining here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: uh, I'm really looking forward to the match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think uh, I think this is going to be a good match for Bowen to have in the States because I don't think you've ever had one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's his first time in the U.S. Not if it looked that out, but I don't recall another time he's been.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think I don't think you've ever been in there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And tomorrow he or she nearly tore his hamstring like two weeks ago on collision and he's been hurt and hurt and

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[SPEAKER_01]: And apparently, he had a hell of a match with and draw to El Edelo taped on collision last night.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So he's fine and good to go for this match and the new Japan cup provided he doesn't get her here, but the man of glass is also a bit of credit right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm really looking forward to this match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's one of the first matches announced for the show, honestly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was like, oh, hey, now we're talking.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And after that, we will have to tie Eiji Ishimori versus Ricochet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's kind of happening in a vacuum.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's no storyline to this mostly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was just Rick and Shay kind of said, challenged this Shemore, which is a weird thing to do as the champion, but Rick Shay does weird things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he said, go ahead to challenge.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is Shemore, he to come to America and face him for one of the 75 championship titles that AEW rolls around their television has rattling around the containers that in the back of their ringtruck, all those belts.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There it is, the national title, which doesn't mean anything, but Ricochet holds it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's wrestling Taiji issue, Mori.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Those are two outstanding athletes, and this should be a very, very entertaining match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is a weird one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You are not wrong on that one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It almost feels like both of these guys like you want to wrestle each other and I don't know if we're ever going to get an opportunity.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Why don't we just why don't it does feel like it does.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it just feels like oh yeah, you know, if he's like a shadow after you're at the Tokyo double said right, she tried to imagine some time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it feels like that because it really did come out of left field, but who's going to complain about it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She's already versus ricochet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I mean, Ricochet, this is exactly the level of Ricochet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He needs to be at, you know, when you position him, when you position him for the IWGP title and the Tokyo dome, it too much.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Here, here, we're in the fleet spot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Ricochet is doing great work in AEW.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can verify for myself that I really enjoy the Ricochet Act of what he's doing, and he's really coming into a go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think we're going to have a lot of fun with the baby face taggy tissue, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think I think that's a really good dynamic.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think these guys are going to be flying everywhere.

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[SPEAKER_00]: By the way, a couple of comments from earlier Jordan from Canada mentioned that he's a huge bolt and mark.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he's looking forward to that strong.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Jordan, bolt and a leg are all like bolts.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, we go back and forth.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I go back and forth on it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I flat.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I do know what you think, Jordan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I haven't decided yet myself.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I started off with the old egg Bolton thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I went to Bolton, Oleg because that was how they introduced to me, Japan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I just couldn't wrap my head around.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's tough for me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I need Bolton, Oleg, but I don't care.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's tough because we call, here's why I turned it around because for a long time, we were saying Bolton, Oleg.

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[SPEAKER_00]: His last name is Bolton, his first name's Oleg.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And in Japan, people are introduced last name first, family name first name.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, we always hear that, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Night to Otezu, yeah, you know, by the ring announcer, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Except then we talk about him, and it's Tetsuya Nighto.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, it's Kazuchko Kata.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's Hiroshi Tanahashi.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're introduced.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Tanahashi Hiroshi.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Then it's all pushed on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to ping in that actually matter with all this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Even if you're dead there, you're going to make you want to call them all like Bolton.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it's a weird thing because the economists, which is one of the best news magazines on Earth, as far as journalism goes from England, made an announcement that they are going to start using the Japanese names when they talk about the prime minister and whoever else.

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[SPEAKER_00]: family name first then first that's how they're going to be written in the magazine because they and I felt better when I heard this they had to have long deliberations over how to handle this I'm okay if the economists are struggling I don't feel bad about struggling sure it's basically worth that bread says whatever Alvarez says do the opposite okay all right fair enough that's a

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[SPEAKER_00]: I like Brian, but I like Brian, but I understand what you mean, Brad, and Brad says this was the trade-off match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They got ricochet winning here to get G-O-A to lose against K-O-B.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Of course, we're going to get to that match in a little bit, to match there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that could very fit that fair point, fair point, that this could be a one for one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What's the next match?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, and another one here, this is Jordan Oliver and Alec Price.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll be honest, don't know a whole lot about these guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Jordan Oliver or Alec Price, but they are in good hands.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They are in with other opponents, Kushida and L. Desparado.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So if you are

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[SPEAKER_00]: new to new Japan and this style.

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[SPEAKER_00]: These are the two I would want to be in there with because I feel like they could walk me through a halfway passable match a little on athletes like Oliver and price.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think they're going to be fine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, I don't know a whole lot about these guys to you, Jeremy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They are the newest signings to AEW.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't remember exactly where they came from.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to figure up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But, uh,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can't say for sure, Brad probably has it in the comments, but they were signed within the last month's day, EW and Samarly were fed to FTR and their place on the hierarchy was very much determined to be they are a project kind of team that they're going to start at the bottom, kind of like a private party kind of thing and then it's kind of run, do the rounds and

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[SPEAKER_01]: So they're fine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They basically went on the indies.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so just, yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And for whatever reason I thought they were British, but I was not as locked in on that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I knew that they were, you know what?

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[SPEAKER_01]: They might have been signed after an MJF show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like MJF did an Indie show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then they got signed the same show, something like that kind of happened to anyways.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They are the new flavor of the month for AEW.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I am just curious as to why Tesla Rodden could she have attacked you?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Again, there are some things about this show that appear to be pulled out of a hat.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Brad is, of course, helping us out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, thank you, Brad.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We appreciate you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I said, price of Jordan of the GCW tag team champions.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that Jordan and Nick Wayne were attacked him before Nick signed with AEW.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, he comes from that indie scene, the GCW hired level Indies in that part of the country.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he also made Jordan his tight with Desparado from his time in G.C.

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[SPEAKER_00]: W's there are a couple of connections there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now we're getting into the meat of this show because after that one comes the N.J.P.W.

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[SPEAKER_00]: World Television title match between El Fantasma and Kenosuke to Kesta, the former World Champion, G1 winner, all that kind of stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't see barring an injury.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This match being anything but wonderful for however long it lasts.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's scheduled for 15 minute time limit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Decent chance we get all 15 of those.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm pretty much, I would, I would pretty much bet that they're going to a draw.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just heart, it's hard for me to imagine fantastical pinning to Kesha.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it feels like it'll either be a draw or some sort of double count out where somebody does something spectacular and splatters themselves into the third row and they do the old dynamite kid double count out where he does something so incredible to the outside that is realistic that they can't make the 20 count.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Or it just simply goes, or to cash to be some and just takes the TV title to give them a reason to be on shows every once in a while, but yeah, but I think it'll be great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, we got it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it'll be a draw and I think this is leading to a situation where both guys kind of need a friend and then they're going to be friends with each other.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, they've done the feud.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like these guys have wrestled multiple times and ELP has already gotten one over on them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: To catch this has been the IWGP champion.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He doesn't need to be the TV champion.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I agree with you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That doesn't mean he's not going to be.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He just like, it is above him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is feels like set up for later or not, like, let's get to cash it in here with a title that we can put all of his matches on YouTube.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It feels like laying groundwork for something more than a feud.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's a sad state of affairs again, Jeremy, if you look at this graphic

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's written directly underneath it and the last name is missing the S.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, ruthless man, man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Come on, guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, so, and, oh, more information on the other.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Thankfully, you guys are hooking us up with information from the American Indies scene, especially in the Northeast Indies, which I just don't get a chance to see this stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But apparently, talking about price and Oliver is they have wrestled each other all over the Indies a lot of potential reminds Jordan from Canada of Adam Cole and Kyle will Riley 15 years ago where they created a lot of buzz just by,

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[SPEAKER_00]: wrestling with and against each other around.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then once they got to the big companies, they really turned on the jets and had some classics.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So maybe that's where these guys are headed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll get our first taste as a new Japan fans.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So and Jordan weekend is also very excited about it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm a elephant has born to catch it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And those two get along pretty darn well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're they get along well in real life.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think they will do the best they can to look

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, this to me is the limit test match to see if knockout brother for real in the states like they're over in Japan, but when they come to this, when they come to the states are the people who are coming to the show locked in to new Japan and or what kind of like the game can factor last year and battle in the valley.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He had that great match with Kenny Omega and then he did that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, you went to the time limit draw with the shee, like a week later, and the crowd wasn't really like didn't see Gabe kid at that level.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I'm curious about what what level the knockout brother could be at.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm not worried about you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No ice.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he's going to get himself over.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the match we're talking about here is the next one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The IWGP tag team championship with the knockout brothers Oscar and you know, Ice facing Bishop Khan and totally on the gates of agony.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that you do is going to be fine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There is a charisma about him that's going to work here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I fully expect Mac Albrothers to win this match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think there's the same thing other than a defense, but it should be all right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The Gates of Agony part of the tag team tournament will go to fine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: did well, in fact, in a couple of their matches, had some pretty good ones.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I think this will be a good match for Ice and Oster to hit their stuff, get their stuff in, so to speak.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And when come back with a solid defense, which is really what it should be, I think that that's a team that should hold onto those titles for a good while before they're back again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Did you catch the other implication about this match?

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, go ahead.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What did I miss?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Two years ago, we're actually talking to Hashi that the title such as the IWGP tag team title would only be defended in Japan and that's the strong title for four.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The strong titles are nowhere to be seen other that it CML right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And yet, we do have an IWGP tag team title match happening in the states.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it appears,

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[SPEAKER_01]: that if there is going to be a directive about these titles being defended in the state or not, it is going to be coming from the talent rather than the president.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, if the one thing I will, we defend the global title of the states and not all the other things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just like, there is no, there is a

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[SPEAKER_00]: Suji doesn't decide that though.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The company decides it's legit about how these companies aren't complaining these things about where and when they defend these titles.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they are making these specific that, you know, Tana Hashi made this directive a couple of years ago.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then it quietly went away.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then you know, to suji and press conference, after wrestling them says that he is only going to defend the IWGP title against worthy opponent who have done their time in

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[SPEAKER_00]: But he doesn't book himself, they told him to say that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I, I don't know if they told him to say that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, he doesn't know this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'd want the main event.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There are some of these things that he's kind of going in the bit of firm self.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's, oh, come on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He doesn't, the champion doesn't book himself.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If anyone doesn't book themselves, I am telling you, he is able to say that then like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we are seeing that the global title is being defended in the states and the IWGP is not.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I expect that to be the case going forward.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, well, and so they changed their mind, and so it was interesting that it was the tag team titles, the IWGP tag team titles in the domestic states, I'd match rather than the strong titles and they are nowhere to be seen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just thought it was interesting and it had a clear shift from what we have been told as an audience from the way that they've been doing things to for it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It is, but New Japan does this all the time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They don't keep their word on that stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, they, they, they, they said they don't keep track of where they're, what they're, the way they're doing thing now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The TV title was going to be for young wrestlers and it never was.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it never, they put it on Zach almost immediately and it's been among older guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Never said it was supposed to be for you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to, this one's going to be defended here and that one's going to be hit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It isn't until they changed their mind.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And what we know is the ton of how she seems to fly by the scene of his pants a lot, which is a source of a lot of these problems right that we've had lately with this company.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, because they have fast stuff like that, and the fans pick up on the fact that they're half-assing it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Jordan from Canada some comments here is I think both teams are going to come in looking even better.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Leon was really shining as a dynamic scary big man in AEW.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He also says to shame the two promotions in North America seem to have no interest in NLP.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I find it I find it very I find him very entertaining in-ring and a great theme.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What we found out on this show a couple of

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[SPEAKER_00]: his tag team partner at the time is now in WWE.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I keep wanting to call him as WWE name and I'm blanking on this old New Japan name, but Fantasma was on our show and he mentioned that he was within a whisper, a callback, if Cody Rhodes had called him back, he would be in AEW wrestler right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was kind of a thing that went a little bit viral from our show, Jeremy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It went around the the work saying that had had Cody Rhodes

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[SPEAKER_00]: what called Riley back a little bit quicker.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He would have signed with AEW and not with New Japan that year and we might have a very different journey for L Fantasma over the last few years from that one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it would have been, it would have been interesting if it was thumbtath, but that left in Hickaleo that stayed, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hickaleo, thank you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Good grief.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was, I didn't want to call him by his WWE name on this show and I said, boy, I boy, I blank on Hickaleo.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was that's what I didn't want to call him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not Tolotanga.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it was he wasn't Tolotanga yet I think he knew he was going to be though.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he knew he was going to be when he was on the show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Don't you think Jeremy?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean he was on our show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He he would he looking our show to fish and let people know he will

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[SPEAKER_00]: I have been told, well, when we got done with that interview, this is when we had both fantasists, they were building up for a wrestle kingdom to wrestle Bishama at kingdom.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and maybe had some terrific matches with Bishama, and I remember afterwards, just saying, oh, he's gone, he's good and gone, and that's just what he wasn't saying.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And not because he was unhappy in New Japan, but he was excited about the future, probably particularly what his bank account was going to look like in the very near future.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, he's just a guy in a group and fine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's making other money in his school.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's making good money.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's staying close to home.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Life ain't too bad.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You got to pay the fee.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's not fun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to pay my fee every Friday.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would for that money.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, what's that?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if I want you for that money.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I'm kind of an asshole.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I don't think that I, I'm probably like, you got to pay me more for the Facebook guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: My girlfriend has knowledge of skin care products that I think will fix any issues I might get from the paint.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I can, and I'll be able to afford it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, it's not on the page.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just don't pay my Facebook.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, Kamala, you remember Kamala that you got into that old gimmick?

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, who first painted his chest and stomach with the stars in the moon and all that kind of stuff?

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[SPEAKER_00]: He'll Jerry Luller.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, Jerry Luller, the original artist.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he had to teach, he had to teach James Harris, Sugar Bear Harris, who's Kamala, how to do that in the mirror.

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[SPEAKER_00]: with his own stuff after well because he debuted in Memphis and Jerry Luller was the one that originally drew all that stuff on him and painted all that stuff on him from Memphis TV.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Then he had to learn how to do it himself.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that would be the hardest part of a painting your faces.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You got to learn how to do it backwards in the mirror.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and consistent and have to look the same all the time, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like if you have like body women that wear makeup or just look at listen to these morons right now, the women's put the makeup on every day or like listen to these two morons.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're amazing out of it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They do a great job and I need to give women their flower for their beauty routine that we take for granted that they have to look for the standard to society.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's good to center and have to do that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank goodness.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I would be so bad in all the respect to the women in our lives.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All for that drop, Steve.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'd be so bad at it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Up next, we do have the IWJ.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was one of the better digressions we've had in the long time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: IWGP Women's Championship is on the line.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And here's the match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Here's the match that I'm really looking forward to.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sure, defending that title against Athena.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Athena has been to start him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She did a little mini tour.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She wasn't over there as long as she would have liked to.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think because she looked like she was having a blast when they chanted her name in cork and haul, she choked up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This means something to Athena.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She is going to be motivated.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm not saying that Athena is trying out for start.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just saying that she has respect, deep respect, for sure for the Japanese women's promotions as a whole.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that I think that Athena is going to work very hard.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We know that sure is one of the best in the world.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Another match, Jeremy, over and over again, as we go through this, like to catch any L.P. Itchimori ricochet, and barring an injury, nothing can really go wrong here, so we're just going to get a terrific match between two very talented women.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm really good for it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I got no complaint whatsoever.

01:00:00.450 --> 01:00:13.032
[SPEAKER_01]: I think Athena is one of the best in the world, even though she doesn't really get her flowers for such and, you know, if there's a list of women that you kind of want for both women to, you know, check off your bucket list.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think both women are on each other's list.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So let's do this and let's have a good match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think I think.

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[SPEAKER_01]: no title for changing hand current anything like that.

01:00:22.588 --> 01:00:29.576
[SPEAKER_00]: But what fun years and years ago here in Austin they had inspire pro wrestling as a local come still around.

01:00:30.257 --> 01:00:43.772
[SPEAKER_00]: A local company and Athena would be booked for them a lot and I remember seeing a match with Barbie Hayden who's a pretty good wrestler in that and left the business to go work for I think speak a world.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She was in one of the

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[SPEAKER_00]: one of the competitors to search this away.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The variety show type of things.

01:00:54.449 --> 01:00:57.773
[SPEAKER_00]: And in the meantime, she was an indie wrestler here and I remember seeing Barbie Hayden thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, Barbie Hayden's really good.

01:00:59.215 --> 01:01:02.199
[SPEAKER_00]: And then she had a match with Athena before she was ember moon.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that match was great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm just sitting there like, good grief.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Boy, Barbie, do you really tore it up right there?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Then I saw another Athena match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Again, before she was number moon, and I thought, oh, that's why that match was great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's that Barbie Hayden's really good, but she's really good, like Athena's fantastic.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then not too long after that, I went to one of her final shows as Athena before she went to be Amber Moon and NXT and, you know, she's she was terrific in NXT, she's been terrific in Ring of Honor and AEW, it's going to be good here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I have nothing to add to that very glowing approval speech of yours.

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[SPEAKER_00]: After that, the IWGP Global Heavyweight Championship, Yota Suji, against Andrade El Evalo.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, another match that kind of came up that we expected that we figured that Andrade El Evalo would beat Gabe Kid to earn this one.

01:02:01.433 --> 01:02:04.718
[SPEAKER_00]: I think this is another match that's going to be very, very good.

01:02:04.985 --> 01:02:07.931
[SPEAKER_00]: I see it as a way to establish Yoda Sushi as a global champion.

01:02:07.991 --> 01:02:10.515
[SPEAKER_00]: I would be very, very surprised if they beat Sushi here.

01:02:10.896 --> 01:02:13.882
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it would be a disastrous decision if they beat Sushi here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think what we're going to get is probably a classic.

01:02:18.771 --> 01:02:19.753
[SPEAKER_00]: He's going to hit his finisher.

01:02:20.053 --> 01:02:22.177
[SPEAKER_00]: He's going to pin on dry day after a terrific match.

01:02:22.598 --> 01:02:25.744
[SPEAKER_00]: And he's going to send the crowd home happy on the microphone.

01:02:25.960 --> 01:02:28.142
[SPEAKER_00]: And Radella Lito is terrific.

01:02:28.703 --> 01:02:32.787
[SPEAKER_00]: Again, we know that Yoda Suji has a little bit of Lucha in him.

01:02:32.807 --> 01:02:36.471
[SPEAKER_00]: So I think I'm going to throw some of that stuff in there, just for funsies.

01:02:36.972 --> 01:02:39.314
[SPEAKER_00]: But we also know that Andre can work strong style, too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's been in the G1 tournament.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's a former Intercontinental Champion.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Back when that belt was still being established, La Sombra held that title.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yet another one should be a terrific match.

01:02:51.047 --> 01:02:54.330
[SPEAKER_00]: On paper, this new beginning USA card looks wonderful.

01:02:55.660 --> 01:02:57.562
[SPEAKER_01]: And drawing a fucking heater right now.

01:02:57.742 --> 01:03:05.130
[SPEAKER_01]: He is out there with something approved and sees Ben Freed from the shackles of WWE's no compete, frankly.

01:03:05.310 --> 01:03:11.236
[SPEAKER_01]: Like if it's come out there and every single match you had, all the great WWE ones have been fantastic.

01:03:11.997 --> 01:03:19.305
[SPEAKER_01]: He no longer feels held back or in some way shape or form and he is.

01:03:19.589 --> 01:03:41.738
[SPEAKER_01]: feeling as authentic and and draw day that I've seen in like five years, you don't mean like you've just he is hitting your stride right now and I think he is prime to have a fantastic main event with Yoda Suji and I agree with you that Yoda Suji should not be losing this match is his first global title defense and wrestling kingdom.

01:03:42.218 --> 01:03:49.528
[SPEAKER_01]: It's the first time

01:03:49.508 --> 01:03:55.373
[SPEAKER_01]: with the microphone sending everybody off home as the face of New Japan.

01:03:55.393 --> 01:04:06.023
[SPEAKER_01]: I get the temptation to have on draw day like be there at the end, but that's not how you need to go into the state with like a G1 atmosphere.

01:04:06.664 --> 01:04:18.435
[SPEAKER_01]: You know like the next show that they're really pushing is the G1 in Chicago and you want your champion to look strong so that all the guys fighting for the G1 get a chance to face that guy.

01:04:18.415 --> 01:04:19.216
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:04:19.236 --> 01:04:24.243
[SPEAKER_00]: And they don't need a belt on somebody over here who's part time.

01:04:24.283 --> 01:04:25.965
[SPEAKER_00]: We tried that with Takesha didn't work.

01:04:26.226 --> 01:04:27.808
[SPEAKER_00]: We just objectively didn't work.

01:04:28.248 --> 01:04:30.692
[SPEAKER_00]: He's not going to be in Japan enough to defend this title.

01:04:30.712 --> 01:04:39.023
[SPEAKER_00]: Don't need a part time champion in a title that should have even though the title is allegedly being defended in outside of Japan.

01:04:39.644 --> 01:04:48.849
[SPEAKER_00]: it needs to be, the emphasis here isn't even on the global title that's on Yoda's sugy and making sure everyone understands that this is the star here.

01:04:48.869 --> 01:04:52.759
[SPEAKER_00]: And the other thing about on Dr. Ade Jeremy, the motivation is there because let's face it.

01:04:53.549 --> 01:04:57.296
[SPEAKER_00]: If he flames out in this run with AEW, it's Mexico.

01:04:57.877 --> 01:05:02.324
[SPEAKER_00]: He's done in North America after he has to make this work.

01:05:02.344 --> 01:05:07.754
[SPEAKER_01]: But he has to be in the conversation for like, come back rest of the year, regular to the year.

01:05:07.974 --> 01:05:12.522
[SPEAKER_01]: All of these things weren't like this run he had for the first month.

01:05:13.043 --> 01:05:17.110
[SPEAKER_01]: If he keeps this up for the rest of the year, like,

01:05:17.782 --> 01:05:28.315
[SPEAKER_01]: The Kyle Fletcher's, you know, some of the other guys, they're, they're going to have a run for their money because at his best and draw one of the best in the world.

01:05:29.358 --> 01:05:44.901
[SPEAKER_00]: And then Brad mentioned, I'm going to get to your question to Tyler in just a moment, but Brad mentions that MJF had a match for House of Glory that Andrade interfered him and I wouldn't be surprised to see MJF return the favor here and interfered leading to Andrade losing could be a little bit of an angle going on there.

01:05:44.941 --> 01:05:59.162
[SPEAKER_00]: So perhaps and Jordan from Canada agrees by the way that Andrade has been fun to watch.

01:05:59.767 --> 01:06:01.609
[SPEAKER_00]: a decent period where you just flat out didn't.

01:06:02.349 --> 01:06:04.892
[SPEAKER_00]: It's nice to see that guy express himself again.

01:06:04.912 --> 01:06:08.215
[SPEAKER_00]: Right, and it's just feel good about his art again.

01:06:08.275 --> 01:06:10.277
[SPEAKER_00]: I do like that too.

01:06:10.317 --> 01:06:16.083
[SPEAKER_00]: Tyler had a question for us though, Jeremy, it's a little bit off topic, but we've just finished our preview of new beginning.

01:06:16.223 --> 01:06:22.048
[SPEAKER_00]: And he said, I'm just dropping by to say, hello, I've been out of the loop, but I'm wondering what are our thoughts on all these recent departures?

01:06:22.089 --> 01:06:26.753
[SPEAKER_00]: And we've had a little bit of time to settle in after some of the departures.

01:06:27.627 --> 01:06:35.799
[SPEAKER_00]: We talked about a Tyler and, you know, Hiromu had probably done everything he can do in New Japan and maybe it's time for a new challenge.

01:06:36.100 --> 01:06:37.942
[SPEAKER_00]: His has been different than the others in that.

01:06:38.603 --> 01:06:43.010
[SPEAKER_00]: It's always, Hiromu talk about how she has gone for now, right?

01:06:43.291 --> 01:06:49.079
[SPEAKER_00]: Both he and the company, he's saying for now, for the time being, he will be back in New Japan.

01:06:49.119 --> 01:06:50.101
[SPEAKER_00]: We feel comfortable with that.

01:06:50.862 --> 01:06:55.609
[SPEAKER_00]: Finlay, you know, I think that New Japan suspected

01:06:55.589 --> 01:07:02.882
[SPEAKER_00]: last year was this last just from the way they booked them because they deemphasized him over the course of the year, protected themselves a little bit.

01:07:03.243 --> 01:07:11.317
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think anybody's surprised by Gabe Kid leaving because AEW had been as Jeremy said over and over, kicking the tires on him for a while.

01:07:13.481 --> 01:07:14.423
[SPEAKER_00]: Here's our hope Tyler.

01:07:15.825 --> 01:07:18.390
[SPEAKER_00]: It hurts to see some of these guys go because they're talented guys.

01:07:19.602 --> 01:07:33.740
[SPEAKER_00]: Our hope is that now this clears those spots and that other guys are booked in a way that they can step up and then do their part to step up and then we, it is chance for some more people to rise to the top.

01:07:34.781 --> 01:07:37.264
[SPEAKER_00]: Finlay was a faction leader, evil, faction leader.

01:07:37.965 --> 01:07:42.591
[SPEAKER_00]: What we're hoping for, these guys to step into those places and turn it on.

01:07:42.932 --> 01:07:43.332
[SPEAKER_00]: And,

01:07:44.763 --> 01:07:45.845
[SPEAKER_00]: things look pretty grim.

01:07:45.905 --> 01:07:59.435
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to go way back for for all Japan in the 90s because 10 rule left and went to a guy with a ton of money put up money to create a new promotion called SWS and Jeanito 10 rule left with a bunch of his guys.

01:08:00.116 --> 01:08:03.143
[SPEAKER_00]: Fairly high level guys for all Japan.

01:08:03.123 --> 01:08:05.927
[SPEAKER_00]: we got masala, kawata, and kobashi out of that.

01:08:06.408 --> 01:08:20.929
[SPEAKER_00]: And when there have been other times when people have left the company in mass and look a few years ago, Nakamura, AJ, who stepped into those spots?

01:08:21.382 --> 01:08:27.107
[SPEAKER_00]: Okada was already there, but I would say go to moved up the card from that after a while.

01:08:27.127 --> 01:08:32.172
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll talk about a little while, but certainly Kenny Omega, you know, you certainly Kenny Omega stepped into that role.

01:08:32.813 --> 01:08:36.216
[SPEAKER_00]: We're hoping we see somebody step up into that spot.

01:08:36.316 --> 01:08:48.047
[SPEAKER_00]: If her own beliefs, maybe there's more space for a Jose Fujito, or maybe even a diking a guy coming up in the future if, if Finn late leaves, you know, we'll see how unbound company shakes out.

01:08:48.027 --> 01:08:49.089
[SPEAKER_00]: with with evil.

01:08:49.910 --> 01:08:52.455
[SPEAKER_00]: It's time for rendering it to step forward apparently.

01:08:52.615 --> 01:08:54.278
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm skeptical of that.

01:08:54.298 --> 01:08:55.320
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm skeptical of you.

01:08:55.340 --> 01:08:56.462
[SPEAKER_00]: You way more as well.

01:08:57.063 --> 01:08:59.728
[SPEAKER_00]: But we're hoping these guys take the initiative.

01:09:00.329 --> 01:09:01.471
[SPEAKER_00]: These spots are open now.

01:09:01.591 --> 01:09:03.194
[SPEAKER_00]: These are faction leadership spots.

01:09:03.535 --> 01:09:04.416
[SPEAKER_00]: It's time for them to do it.

01:09:04.456 --> 01:09:07.722
[SPEAKER_00]: Callum Newman, I think, is going to be an important part of New Japan's future.

01:09:08.323 --> 01:09:09.225
[SPEAKER_00]: And

01:09:09.205 --> 01:09:15.192
[SPEAKER_00]: It just clears the way for them and that's what you hope is that guys take that spot and take the ball and run with it.

01:09:15.392 --> 01:09:16.213
[SPEAKER_00]: That's what we're looking for.

01:09:16.233 --> 01:09:18.115
[SPEAKER_00]: So guys take the ball and run with it.

01:09:18.135 --> 01:09:26.705
[SPEAKER_00]: And we've seen a lot of fumbles over the last couple years, both from the company and from some of the wrestlers who have been small and big moments.

01:09:27.466 --> 01:09:29.909
[SPEAKER_00]: And we need some guys to step up and be big and big moments.

01:09:30.049 --> 01:09:34.114
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what we're hoping so I will practice this with.

01:09:35.796 --> 01:09:37.558
[SPEAKER_01]: I think New Japan will be fine.

01:09:38.737 --> 01:09:41.000
[SPEAKER_01]: But I'm two of two minds of this.

01:09:41.020 --> 01:09:42.161
[SPEAKER_01]: One is the adage.

01:09:42.181 --> 01:09:45.104
[SPEAKER_01]: You don't know what you got till it's gone.

01:09:45.124 --> 01:10:02.503
[SPEAKER_01]: And the amount of flowers that some of these guys get after they leave when they don't really get them when they're here, someone amuses me, you know, like the conversation around thinly and Haromu and evil has been especially fascinating this year.

01:10:04.105 --> 01:10:08.490
[SPEAKER_01]: With the increased dialogue,

01:10:08.656 --> 01:10:24.477
[SPEAKER_01]: or what did they really bring to the table or, you know, like everyone seems to have an opinion that's even more curated around where they're going in the fact that they're leaving and whether it's a good thing or a bad thing that they'll leave new treatment.

01:10:25.498 --> 01:10:31.926
[SPEAKER_01]: And inevitably it's a bad thing, you know, like it leaves a void and a risk that that void will not be filled.

01:10:33.128 --> 01:10:34.630
[SPEAKER_01]: And they were

01:10:35.673 --> 01:10:43.864
[SPEAKER_01]: uh, tried and true, reliable, solid talent in the ring that the audience responded to and you can do something with that.

01:10:43.884 --> 01:10:51.334
[SPEAKER_01]: You have people in the come up at this point with an opportunity that are hungry that can make that spot their own because they can't be evil.

01:10:51.735 --> 01:10:54.178
[SPEAKER_01]: They can't be horrible and they can't be simply.

01:10:54.278 --> 01:11:04.532
[SPEAKER_01]: They have to be their own person to take that same energy and take that same spot and make that their own and make it fresh so that

01:11:04.512 --> 01:11:09.541
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, like there is no who's the next to that's that's what I'm trying to say here.

01:11:10.002 --> 01:11:12.546
[SPEAKER_00]: And so but it's the spot.

01:11:12.566 --> 01:11:12.967
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:11:12.987 --> 01:11:13.728
[SPEAKER_01]: It's the spot.

01:11:13.849 --> 01:11:14.650
[SPEAKER_01]: It's the energy.

01:11:14.770 --> 01:11:28.815
[SPEAKER_01]: It's the desire by both the promotion and the talent as the next level of the next people up like you see it in AEW right now like this next generation of talent that's coming up that we weren't talking about when an AEW

01:11:29.167 --> 01:11:41.746
[SPEAKER_01]: They're in WWE right now, desperately trying to build new talent because they're seeing their entire roster over the age of 40, aging out and realizing that they don't have WrestleMania main event for the next 10 years.

01:11:42.306 --> 01:11:45.371
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, these are the other of the things that everybody is trying to do.

01:11:45.852 --> 01:11:48.195
[SPEAKER_01]: And so I do believe that New Japan has the talent.

01:11:48.375 --> 01:11:50.779
[SPEAKER_01]: I do believe that with the cow and Newman, like you said.

01:11:50.799 --> 01:11:58.971
[SPEAKER_01]: And if Renderita finds that like passion for wrestling

01:11:58.951 --> 01:12:11.263
[SPEAKER_01]: I think I think everybody there, I think they have the formula and the cocktail to put something pretty spectacular over the next few years, but they have to mix it right.

01:12:11.283 --> 01:12:15.488
[SPEAKER_00]: You make a great point with Newman and it illustrates the point you're going to make.

01:12:16.349 --> 01:12:27.760
[SPEAKER_00]: Finlay and Newman are very different wrestlers, but that idea of a malevolent foreign

01:12:27.959 --> 01:12:28.840
[SPEAKER_00]: That's a trope, right?

01:12:28.880 --> 01:12:30.343
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that's, that's, that's bullet club.

01:12:30.463 --> 01:12:34.890
[SPEAKER_00]: It, and now it's kind of moved over to the United Empire and now the bullet club has, has gone away.

01:12:35.370 --> 01:12:37.253
[SPEAKER_00]: But it's not the same faction.

01:12:37.514 --> 01:12:39.056
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not the same type of wrestler.

01:12:39.277 --> 01:12:45.666
[SPEAKER_00]: But that's your, that, that, that angry foreigner who is going to take over, that's Kalam Numan now.

01:12:46.027 --> 01:12:49.292
[SPEAKER_00]: And he's doing it in a very different,

01:12:49.272 --> 01:13:01.354
[SPEAKER_01]: method, then they're fairly going from Americanized gun culture to British more of a caliber and then to the round table.

01:13:01.374 --> 01:13:06.183
[SPEAKER_00]: But that's the kind of change and flavor that's not very something.

01:13:06.203 --> 01:13:07.365
[SPEAKER_01]: You need to go.

01:13:08.527 --> 01:13:13.097
[SPEAKER_01]: 190 degree different from the direction you were already in.

01:13:14.059 --> 01:13:18.088
[SPEAKER_00]: And remember, Newman, we talked about it right here on this show.

01:13:18.108 --> 01:13:25.083
[SPEAKER_00]: When Calum Newman first started, we just thought, talented kid, very athletic, needs to stop being a Will Osprey tribute act.

01:13:26.345 --> 01:13:27.548
[SPEAKER_00]: And when he did,

01:13:28.118 --> 01:13:28.699
[SPEAKER_00]: top four.

01:13:29.520 --> 01:13:30.622
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, it wasn't overnight.

01:13:30.782 --> 01:13:34.767
[SPEAKER_00]: That wasn't just that was an evolution of Kellon Newman and things.

01:13:34.787 --> 01:13:38.372
[SPEAKER_00]: So, it's that evolution is what we're looking for.

01:13:38.412 --> 01:13:39.414
[SPEAKER_00]: Renner read a needs to.

01:13:39.454 --> 01:13:42.738
[SPEAKER_00]: He started off as a Shabbata tribute act and not a particularly good one.

01:13:43.319 --> 01:13:46.724
[SPEAKER_00]: And he's been a very mediocre heal with house a torture.

01:13:47.145 --> 01:13:48.827
[SPEAKER_00]: He needs to show

01:13:49.567 --> 01:13:56.714
[SPEAKER_00]: Flash is a talent that when was the last really, really good rendering of match his street fight with Show to Umano at Corricon Hall wasn't bad.

01:13:57.374 --> 01:14:03.420
[SPEAKER_00]: And then before that, he had a match, I guess it was what when he was on NJPW strong when that was a weekly series.

01:14:03.700 --> 01:14:08.325
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I don't remember it, not with Duke Robinson where they should out of you.

01:14:08.345 --> 01:14:12.489
[SPEAKER_00]: He's only had a couple of good matches over what's kind of been a fairly long career.

01:14:12.589 --> 01:14:16.873
[SPEAKER_00]: It's time for him to step up and show that he's right for the or show that he's not ready.

01:14:16.853 --> 01:14:24.564
[SPEAKER_00]: And I, you know, it's a coin flip with me is to what it's going to be, because Narina's been a mediocre for most of his career and a bad tribute act.

01:14:24.624 --> 01:14:33.958
[SPEAKER_00]: It's time for him to be his own guy and show something or or or to learn or show the company that he didn't he ain't got it, which I think it really the way right now.

01:14:34.719 --> 01:14:39.806
[SPEAKER_00]: And Jordan says Newman is a little bit more sympathetic than Finn my was perhaps.

01:14:40.247 --> 01:14:40.387
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

01:14:40.407 --> 01:14:41.248
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

01:14:41.268 --> 01:14:46.135
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll take I mean, if you're a if you got middle or younger child,

01:14:47.785 --> 01:14:48.827
[SPEAKER_00]: That's an interesting way of putting it.

01:14:48.867 --> 01:14:49.408
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, fair enough.

01:14:49.728 --> 01:14:51.811
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, so that, anyway, that's our preview of that one.

01:14:52.152 --> 01:14:53.134
[SPEAKER_00]: Wanted to mention one other thing.

01:14:53.154 --> 01:14:58.362
[SPEAKER_00]: There is another show before we reconvene back at Chris Sampson's going to be with us next week.

01:14:58.762 --> 01:15:01.847
[SPEAKER_00]: I will be on assignment and...

01:15:03.690 --> 01:15:05.714
[SPEAKER_01]: Try to stay out of the Metclico.

01:15:06.915 --> 01:15:08.578
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I can't do that.

01:15:09.119 --> 01:15:10.561
[SPEAKER_00]: So we'll see.

01:15:10.701 --> 01:15:11.683
[SPEAKER_00]: We'll see.

01:15:12.170 --> 01:15:14.493
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, maybe that's going to have to be the thing.

01:15:14.934 --> 01:15:18.979
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I might have to, actually, but we'll see how that all goes.

01:15:18.999 --> 01:15:20.641
[SPEAKER_00]: So there's there's time for that to cool off.

01:15:21.783 --> 01:15:24.847
[SPEAKER_01]: But we got to talk about your thoughts on the new Japan Cup now.

01:15:25.327 --> 01:15:26.569
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, exactly.

01:15:27.050 --> 01:15:34.920
[SPEAKER_01]: You are denied an opportunity from here on out to talk about anything before it commences under

01:15:34.900 --> 01:15:43.048
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, you know, and by the time the show comes out, there will be night one of the New Japan Cup when Chris and Jeremy reconvened our normal time next week.

01:15:43.149 --> 01:15:50.276
[SPEAKER_00]: So a couple of interesting things about that show, which will be from Corican Hall, and that is on Wednesday, March 4th.

01:15:51.137 --> 01:15:54.861
[SPEAKER_00]: First of all, Show Makato, leaving head into Mexico, right?

01:15:54.881 --> 01:15:59.185
[SPEAKER_00]: We just, uh, Marashima, who headed to Germany, we have a new young lion.

01:15:59.446 --> 01:16:00.807
[SPEAKER_01]: We don't have the door.

01:16:00.938 --> 01:16:01.779
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:16:01.799 --> 01:16:02.360
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like goodness.

01:16:03.001 --> 01:16:03.842
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, you were waiting on that one.

01:16:05.625 --> 01:16:10.672
[SPEAKER_00]: Tetsuya Matsumoto is getting the first singles match for Taisay Nakahara.

01:16:10.692 --> 01:16:17.983
[SPEAKER_00]: So, Taisay Nakahara, the newest young lion, facing the second newest young lion at that point.

01:16:18.003 --> 01:16:18.864
[SPEAKER_00]: Tetsuya Matsumoto.

01:16:18.884 --> 01:16:22.069
[SPEAKER_00]: So, I know Matsumoto was excited to find the get some singles wins.

01:16:23.956 --> 01:16:24.657
[SPEAKER_01]: I hope so.

01:16:25.958 --> 01:16:28.041
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe not using old one still.

01:16:28.461 --> 01:16:29.763
[SPEAKER_01]: You know how to be really depressing.

01:16:30.163 --> 01:16:31.605
[SPEAKER_00]: That's a pretty strict hierarchy.

01:16:31.625 --> 01:16:33.347
[SPEAKER_00]: They use there for the the young lines.

01:16:33.367 --> 01:16:38.773
[SPEAKER_00]: So, but no, I say not go, uh, all right, I'm always fascinated with whenever we get a new young line to see how they turn out.

01:16:38.793 --> 01:16:41.376
[SPEAKER_00]: So, right, we usually end up talking to about a year's later.

01:16:41.876 --> 01:16:53.389
[SPEAKER_00]: And then the two matches from the New Japan cup that will take place on the fourth,

01:16:53.825 --> 01:16:54.626
[SPEAKER_00]: And another one.

01:16:54.726 --> 01:17:00.516
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you, yeah, Oemora and Great O'Con will be the main event of that one.

01:17:00.797 --> 01:17:03.641
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm fascinated by that one.

01:17:03.701 --> 01:17:06.105
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't care who wins looking at this.

01:17:06.386 --> 01:17:09.792
[SPEAKER_00]: Oemora, Drillamologi gets the winner of that match.

01:17:09.812 --> 01:17:13.017
[SPEAKER_00]: Oemora and Great O'Con with the winner of that will face Drillamologi.

01:17:13.378 --> 01:17:14.940
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't really care which one it is.

01:17:15.000 --> 01:17:19.107
[SPEAKER_00]: If I suspect it's going to be Oemora,

01:17:19.745 --> 01:17:27.949
[SPEAKER_00]: But if he does, that puts him in the main event winning position in the Corkin Hall, and I just want to hear if once.

01:17:28.250 --> 01:17:30.314
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm asking once, you, yeah, I die.

01:17:31.195 --> 01:17:39.911
[SPEAKER_00]: Do something other than your cut and paste, young lion promo for once, something interesting, say something interesting once.

01:17:40.712 --> 01:17:44.158
[SPEAKER_00]: And stop with the whole, I win and I'm just going to go higher.

01:17:44.659 --> 01:17:47.945
[SPEAKER_00]: If I lose, I'm just going to pull myself up from a bootstraps and get better.

01:17:48.005 --> 01:17:53.194
[SPEAKER_00]: Stop talking like a young lion and try to start talking like a star.

01:17:53.174 --> 01:17:56.344
[SPEAKER_00]: Once I'm asking you, if you win this match, do that.

01:17:56.785 --> 01:17:57.909
[SPEAKER_00]: Great O'Connor, I'm not worried about.

01:17:57.929 --> 01:17:58.792
[SPEAKER_00]: He can cut a promo.

01:17:58.852 --> 01:17:59.213
[SPEAKER_00]: You, you.

01:18:03.888 --> 01:18:06.255
[SPEAKER_01]: I think you're going all the way to the final.

01:18:06.421 --> 01:18:11.030
[SPEAKER_00]: He might, but for God's sake, start acting like a star and stop talking like you.

01:18:11.511 --> 01:18:15.278
[SPEAKER_01]: I hope he gets multiple opportunity if two anger you with this shitty promo.

01:18:15.738 --> 01:18:16.299
[SPEAKER_00]: Boy, they're bad.

01:18:16.901 --> 01:18:21.289
[SPEAKER_01]: I think he's a big, he's a big, he's a big bad, but I will have to go along with the fact that you think they're bad.

01:18:21.730 --> 01:18:22.812
[SPEAKER_01]: I think they're fine.

01:18:22.832 --> 01:18:24.996
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I don't think they're amazing.

01:18:25.296 --> 01:18:26.559
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think they're bad.

01:18:26.579 --> 01:18:27.420
[SPEAKER_00]: He only has two.

01:18:27.541 --> 01:18:29.043
[SPEAKER_00]: One when he wins, one when he loses.

01:18:29.083 --> 01:18:29.965
[SPEAKER_01]: You see, you're saying that?

01:18:32.122 --> 01:18:36.852
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like late and aerospace career where they only had two songs, the fast one, the slow one, no, no, no, no other than that.

01:18:36.932 --> 01:18:37.854
[SPEAKER_00]: It was just the same thing.

01:18:37.894 --> 01:18:38.996
[SPEAKER_00]: How?

01:18:39.878 --> 01:18:40.519
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just saying it.

01:18:40.840 --> 01:18:43.265
[SPEAKER_00]: You've got, you got to do more than that if you're going to be the guy.

01:18:44.247 --> 01:18:44.347
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

01:18:44.367 --> 01:18:45.068
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm going to be the one.

01:18:45.369 --> 01:18:51.902
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to be speaking of which if you have your thought about who's going to win.

01:18:52.220 --> 01:19:18.683
[SPEAKER_01]: the new Japan cup you can go to the sport and pro wrestling dot com and to this website you need to go to sport a pro wrestling dot com and if there's a link right there and you can do a drop down and guess every winner all the way through the end and the host of this contest will be our guest next week the one the only the Chris Simpson so I want to get that plug in there before we get underway here

01:19:18.663 --> 01:19:20.165
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to be on the show.

01:19:20.205 --> 01:19:22.829
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm saying I'm not going to be here because I love talking to Chris about it.

01:19:23.330 --> 01:19:32.885
[SPEAKER_00]: But the good news is folks, with me not on the show with Chris, you have a chance, a chance of getting out of here in an hour and a half, because when Chris was a real good chance, a real good chance.

01:19:32.905 --> 01:19:36.050
[SPEAKER_00]: When Chris and I start going, we could go with Chris and I could talk all night.

01:19:36.110 --> 01:19:37.552
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's it.

01:19:38.073 --> 01:19:43.180
[SPEAKER_01]: I keep a tight, tight leash on the time, then it get out of control.

01:19:43.341 --> 01:19:44.923
[SPEAKER_01]: I just go air at the both of them.

01:19:45.562 --> 01:19:46.864
[SPEAKER_00]: Jordan, again, I mentioned it's fun.

01:19:46.884 --> 01:19:49.448
[SPEAKER_00]: Those, those, those picks cancels are a blast.

01:19:49.508 --> 01:19:53.995
[SPEAKER_00]: It's fun to see how you do and play along with the keep track of your results.

01:19:54.055 --> 01:20:09.358
[SPEAKER_01]: So the interesting thing to me about these brackets, Steven, is that you have three brackets in which there is a former IWGP champion and then the sub bracket across from it is potentially somebody young.

01:20:09.811 --> 01:20:12.244
[SPEAKER_01]: that could get the rub from beating a former champion.

01:20:12.646 --> 01:20:13.209
[SPEAKER_01]: Sure.

01:20:13.229 --> 01:20:15.822
[SPEAKER_01]: So you have Yugit Uemura and Shingo to Cog.

01:20:16.308 --> 01:20:19.471
[SPEAKER_01]: which we remember that Schinger Tokagi was a champion back in 2020.

01:20:19.651 --> 01:20:29.702
[SPEAKER_01]: It's been a while, but you, we were going over Schinger Tokagi in a chance to face Yota Fuji feels like a really strong play.

01:20:30.342 --> 01:20:38.190
[SPEAKER_01]: If you go to the other side, you have Kalam Newman who could potentially get a win over Haroki Goto with all the things go right in that thing.

01:20:38.270 --> 01:20:42.855
[SPEAKER_01]: And if you look at it, you've got Jake Lee and Yoshi Hashi,

01:20:42.835 --> 01:20:45.661
[SPEAKER_01]: So, Jake, we lost that I WGP title.

01:20:45.721 --> 01:20:49.007
[SPEAKER_01]: I kind of expect him to win his first match when he comes back from that.

01:20:49.688 --> 01:20:52.594
[SPEAKER_01]: But after that, there could be countouts.

01:20:52.614 --> 01:20:53.496
[SPEAKER_01]: There could be whatever.

01:20:53.616 --> 01:20:58.245
[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, Hurricane Goto goes over, then you get Goto and Calum Newman.

01:20:58.225 --> 01:21:07.284
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, I wouldn't be surprised if Oscar, you know, gets screwed out of a win right there, you know, Cal Newman kind of position position on there.

01:21:07.304 --> 01:21:08.807
[SPEAKER_01]: So you see that right there.

01:21:09.328 --> 01:21:17.145
[SPEAKER_01]: And then at the bottom, everyone favorite showed at Luminow, could more than likely get path Chaco on the future of Taka Hashi.

01:21:17.125 --> 01:21:36.805
[SPEAKER_01]: Right, but it's that under under bracket with yellow ice and real halo you are and I kind of see real halo you were being the guy the odd man out kind of loses to get a life that first round so we get you know ice and fat Saber junior but I wouldn't be surprised if you ended up getting real halo we will versus that Saber treat.

01:21:36.785 --> 01:21:55.182
[SPEAKER_01]: And, evidently, though, I think we're getting showed at Umanoham, that's a Virginia, and that bottom bracket, where then if you wanted to have a final form of all young guys, three of them will have gotten there by defeating a former IWGP champion.

01:21:55.702 --> 01:21:58.668
[SPEAKER_01]: on the way to facing the current IWGP champion.

01:21:58.988 --> 01:22:01.773
[SPEAKER_01]: And over on that other far left corner, it's just Rennerita.

01:22:02.234 --> 01:22:06.442
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, honestly, it's going to be Rennerita to put him over as the House of Torture Guy.

01:22:06.462 --> 01:22:08.486
[SPEAKER_01]: I see him beating Taiji.

01:22:08.666 --> 01:22:10.229
[SPEAKER_01]: I see him being a sheety.

01:22:10.830 --> 01:22:17.102
[SPEAKER_01]: Honestly, I see him beating Bolton Oleg as the guy that probably makes it out of that block.

01:22:17.082 --> 01:22:21.008
[SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, the Fantasmel and Oleg match is probably going to be fantastic.

01:22:21.509 --> 01:22:24.855
[SPEAKER_01]: The Henari match that follows up with either one of those guys is going to be great.

01:22:24.915 --> 01:22:36.654
[SPEAKER_01]: But I do kind of see Oleg and Henare, the same night that we have, like, Renner Reed and Tomohiro, she, that kind of feels like, okay, you're getting something even though you got to Renner Reed and that, you know.

01:22:36.714 --> 01:22:38.857
[SPEAKER_01]: So, won't you get the final four?

01:22:39.178 --> 01:22:43.545
[SPEAKER_01]: You, you, you, we, Mura, Renner Reed on one side,

01:22:44.470 --> 01:22:45.834
[SPEAKER_01]: Go to him on the other side.

01:22:45.854 --> 01:22:48.380
[SPEAKER_01]: I think you can't go with Shota and you get the end.

01:22:49.242 --> 01:22:52.892
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you could with again, I hope, and I'm begging for a heel turn from one of them.

01:22:53.193 --> 01:22:53.333
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

01:22:53.353 --> 01:22:53.935
[SPEAKER_00]: I know them in that.

01:22:53.975 --> 01:22:55.258
[SPEAKER_00]: There needs to be a story to this.

01:22:56.301 --> 01:22:59.509
[SPEAKER_01]: I would love to see a baby fake Shota.

01:23:00.316 --> 01:23:15.116
[SPEAKER_01]: go face theota suji loose and just lose his mind after the match and just kind of like destroy him and going into secure a genesis, we're figuring out what this new situation we showed of.

01:23:15.537 --> 01:23:29.175
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what I would love to see, but there's so much about this company that refuses to

01:23:29.662 --> 01:23:44.025
[SPEAKER_01]: like we only have one heel fact like we have to we have to we have united empire and we have some torture you're right and i'm you're right you're right i'm gonna say this though united empire keeps going the way they're going

01:23:44.275 --> 01:23:48.766
[SPEAKER_00]: They're going to be that Suzuki Gune kind of heal group, you know what I'm like about a year.

01:23:48.806 --> 01:23:49.909
[SPEAKER_00]: The cool badass guy.

01:23:49.989 --> 01:23:51.392
[SPEAKER_00]: They need some actual jerks.

01:23:51.452 --> 01:24:00.073
[SPEAKER_01]: They need some actual, yeah, you need a traditional heal group that is like brand new that you can establish if something dominant.

01:24:00.454 --> 01:24:01.356
[SPEAKER_01]: All club gone.

01:24:01.336 --> 01:24:07.244
[SPEAKER_01]: House of torture is exactly what House of torture is and it has been positioned as that group for a while.

01:24:07.304 --> 01:24:08.406
[SPEAKER_01]: It is no longer fresh.

01:24:09.086 --> 01:24:13.873
[SPEAKER_01]: It is still, but you still need the presentation that they are a player.

01:24:13.893 --> 01:24:29.554
[SPEAKER_01]: So, between those four people, you know, two of them are reping hauntai and with Shona saying to Tana Hashi, like five months ago, four months ago, let me be the one to lead hauntai, him given that opportunity to do so and then failing,

01:24:29.534 --> 01:24:38.089
[SPEAKER_01]: and it being nobody fault but his own feel like true to the show to him at a store.

01:24:38.109 --> 01:24:38.309
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

01:24:38.329 --> 01:24:39.191
[SPEAKER_00]: A couple of comments here.

01:24:39.291 --> 01:24:42.216
[SPEAKER_00]: Jordan McKenzie mentions potential Oleg and Hanna Rae match.

01:24:42.276 --> 01:24:42.897
[SPEAKER_00]: Big bruises.

01:24:42.937 --> 01:24:44.120
[SPEAKER_00]: That was something interesting to see.

01:24:44.460 --> 01:24:45.342
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I would like to see that one.

01:24:45.422 --> 01:24:48.387
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, by the way, I do think Aaron Wolf is losing the first round.

01:24:48.535 --> 01:24:49.898
[SPEAKER_00]: to fall away.

01:24:49.918 --> 01:24:51.883
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they're just going to screw them all right now to clean.

01:24:52.124 --> 01:24:55.893
[SPEAKER_01]: You just one and done he's not ready to face against singer to golly.

01:24:56.474 --> 01:25:00.625
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, singer to golly, you can't throw down a singer to golly match for Aaron Wolf.

01:25:01.146 --> 01:25:02.228
[SPEAKER_01]: And you know what I mean?

01:25:02.249 --> 01:25:03.692
[SPEAKER_01]: Like can you imagine that match?

01:25:03.672 --> 01:25:04.673
[SPEAKER_00]: It can't be clean.

01:25:04.733 --> 01:25:11.040
[SPEAKER_00]: It has to be a thing where House of Torture keeps screwing over wool until he just loses his stuff.

01:25:11.160 --> 01:25:11.761
[SPEAKER_00]: That should be it.

01:25:12.521 --> 01:25:14.424
[SPEAKER_00]: And Jordan says, Dan, you guys got me pumped.

01:25:14.444 --> 01:25:16.105
[SPEAKER_00]: I got to get another subscription in March.

01:25:16.165 --> 01:25:17.707
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, we'll be happy to have you back on board.

01:25:18.288 --> 01:25:19.349
[SPEAKER_00]: And Brad mentions this.

01:25:19.369 --> 01:25:21.511
[SPEAKER_00]: He said, going back to tomorrow's show for a second.

01:25:21.531 --> 01:25:24.194
[SPEAKER_00]: Do you think there'll be a surprises, turns, or announcements?

01:25:25.095 --> 01:25:26.857
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't at Fantasco Mania.

01:25:27.598 --> 01:25:33.544
[SPEAKER_00]: I think he talked about New

01:25:34.216 --> 01:25:35.298
[SPEAKER_00]: Announcements, yes.

01:25:35.559 --> 01:25:42.573
[SPEAKER_00]: I think there will be some sort of announcement about when they might, when we already know about what's coming to Chicago, the G1 in Chicago.

01:25:43.535 --> 01:25:50.048
[SPEAKER_00]: I expect some sort of announcements regarding future shows in America, turns.

01:25:51.783 --> 01:25:57.976
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm trying to find a turn that would really make sense to do their, I'm struggling with that.

01:25:58.056 --> 01:26:04.750
[SPEAKER_00]: But I do expect some announcements and their surprise, that MJF thing's not a bad idea to have something like that there.

01:26:05.592 --> 01:26:08.458
[SPEAKER_00]: I think there could be somebody popping up that we don't expect.

01:26:08.438 --> 01:26:16.389
[SPEAKER_00]: I would imagine Jeremy may be somebody pops up on the video board even if they can't get there in person and to make a challenge for a future event.

01:26:16.470 --> 01:26:19.033
[SPEAKER_00]: I do think there'll be something like that.

01:26:19.574 --> 01:26:26.304
[SPEAKER_00]: The only other announcement we got by the way is we find out that when it's best to the super juniors is going to be, that's often the future and we'll get to it then.

01:26:26.484 --> 01:26:36.218
[SPEAKER_00]: The only notable thing is that the finals are its own show at Old Award Gymnasium, and the finals will not be a dominion this year.

01:26:36.198 --> 01:26:38.541
[SPEAKER_00]: the best of the super junior finals.

01:26:38.721 --> 01:26:39.882
[SPEAKER_00]: So something to keep in mind there.

01:26:40.343 --> 01:26:53.117
[SPEAKER_01]: I could see another team making their claim for the knockout brothers after if they retain, I could see team showing up and the crowd going, ooh.

01:26:53.598 --> 01:26:56.260
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, they're, well, and I'll give you this.

01:26:56.381 --> 01:27:00.786
[SPEAKER_00]: So like let's take a look at, let's take a look at that card and go with the New Japan Trope.

01:27:00.866 --> 01:27:04.770
[SPEAKER_00]: When a big singles match earlier, challenged the champion later,

01:27:05.020 --> 01:27:07.042
[SPEAKER_00]: What happens, Jeremy, what do you think?

01:27:07.082 --> 01:27:10.405
[SPEAKER_00]: Ricochet beats Taijiishi Mori.

01:27:10.946 --> 01:27:14.269
[SPEAKER_00]: And now he wants to shout at the global title the next time they're in the USA.

01:27:14.329 --> 01:27:15.730
[SPEAKER_00]: That could be a thing.

01:27:16.311 --> 01:27:16.892
[SPEAKER_00]: I could be a thing.

01:27:17.032 --> 01:27:18.433
[SPEAKER_00]: That could 100% be a thing.

01:27:19.494 --> 01:27:27.162
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I was wondering if they were going to bring in one of those other new AEW team that they've just brought in.

01:27:27.242 --> 01:27:31.586
[SPEAKER_01]: And just like the rascal, you know, smoke and if you got him, we'll smoke you out.

01:27:32.026 --> 01:27:33.728
[SPEAKER_01]: And knock a brother, we'll knock you out.

01:27:34.214 --> 01:27:34.955
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's get high.

01:27:34.975 --> 01:27:41.085
[SPEAKER_01]: I would actually be here for a rascal for, because it's a knockout brother to match those guys are fantastic.

01:27:41.105 --> 01:27:41.306
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

01:27:41.326 --> 01:27:48.457
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, I was specs on the go like that, Brad, more than more than a big turn at this stage, more than that.

01:27:49.078 --> 01:27:54.587
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's saying, impossible, but I don't expect to turn, but announcements, yes, and I would imagine challenges.

01:27:54.607 --> 01:27:55.709
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, surprise challenges.

01:27:55.909 --> 01:27:57.572
[SPEAKER_01]: There does seem it.

01:27:59.037 --> 01:28:12.954
[SPEAKER_01]: You'll think there's a lot of open space to do one more domestic show before the G1, but if it's really just Chicago and they're all wrongly to that first night of the G1 in Chicago and everything else is just kind of forced you man.

01:28:13.275 --> 01:28:14.177
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm okay with that.

01:28:16.013 --> 01:28:17.997
[SPEAKER_00]: But there is some time to get another one.

01:28:18.018 --> 01:28:19.000
[SPEAKER_01]: They're absolutely absolutely.

01:28:19.320 --> 01:28:22.848
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I'm going to catch your show tomorrow night.

01:28:23.811 --> 01:28:28.281
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to watch a elimination chamber on Saturday.

01:28:28.341 --> 01:28:31.307
[SPEAKER_01]: Going to do the New Japan Cup on Wednesday.

01:28:31.388 --> 01:28:35.136
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to wish you well and see you in two weeks.

01:28:35.116 --> 01:28:54.930
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a word and hope you have a great time getting out of the United States of America because that seems like all the rage is weaving the United States of America either by choice or by not, which is one of those weird things that I came out of my mouth and I apologize.

01:28:55.838 --> 01:28:59.203
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's strange days, especially considering where we're going.

01:28:59.364 --> 01:29:09.019
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, there are a couple of days in Mexico there and we're not sure, we'll just have to see if we can get off the ship or not, but we'll find out.

01:29:09.559 --> 01:29:10.862
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, no, I mean, obviously don't know.

01:29:10.942 --> 01:29:14.387
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's just they are monitoring the situation.

01:29:14.907 --> 01:29:32.915
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, during the show, my wife told me that she got selected for, she's in the courtroom for jury duty selection, for a jury for a trial that might come out, she hasn't been selected yet, but I'm getting the, it comes to that page, like, yeah, I'm closer, they selected it.

01:29:32.975 --> 01:29:36.460
[SPEAKER_01]: No, I don't have a hardship, I'm like,

01:29:37.064 --> 01:29:39.409
[SPEAKER_00]: I've been called for jury duty several times.

01:29:39.450 --> 01:29:40.572
[SPEAKER_00]: I've never been on a jury.

01:29:40.592 --> 01:29:42.858
[SPEAKER_00]: I've never even been interviewed like the interview.

01:29:42.878 --> 01:29:51.418
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what the term is, but where you answer questions from the attorneys or yeah, I got booted off of what I answered a question and they're like, that guy's out.

01:29:51.839 --> 01:29:52.440
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like,

01:29:54.040 --> 01:30:00.211
[SPEAKER_00]: either the thing where I can spot guilty people just like that I know, but no, I I've never been brought into the courtroom.

01:30:00.231 --> 01:30:04.738
[SPEAKER_00]: I've been sitting there and then every time I've had jury duty, they've come out and said we're good.

01:30:04.759 --> 01:30:11.150
[SPEAKER_00]: You guys can you guys go and so I've never I think three or four times I've been down there and I've never even gotten into a courtroom.

01:30:11.170 --> 01:30:12.572
[SPEAKER_00]: I've always just been in the waiting area.

01:30:12.653 --> 01:30:30.730
[SPEAKER_01]: I was sitting on a jury panel and it was one of those like absolutely awful things done to a child kind of a child and they're like, do you, will you be able to be impartial and I would have said, nope, at least you're pretty, you're honest about it, I suppose.

01:30:30.750 --> 01:30:37.657
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but I, is this guy, the system that we have, but I'll be honest with you, not even remotely.

01:30:38.097 --> 01:30:39.859
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm already made up my mind on this.

01:30:40.632 --> 01:30:42.997
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm glad you weren't selected, have I?

01:30:43.057 --> 01:30:45.742
[SPEAKER_01]: No, I know, but you was found guilty and it was pretty horrendous.

01:30:45.782 --> 01:30:46.524
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm okay.

01:30:46.604 --> 01:30:48.387
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, fair enough.

01:30:48.407 --> 01:30:55.401
[SPEAKER_00]: I know that's the other thing is whenever you, whenever you aren't selected, it's really tempting to go and follow what actually does happen.

01:30:55.786 --> 01:30:59.370
[SPEAKER_01]: It was, yeah, we were going to have to like, no, no, thank you.

01:30:59.530 --> 01:31:00.010
[SPEAKER_01]: No, thank you.

01:31:00.050 --> 01:31:03.955
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want therapy for the two here from what I potentially hear from this one.

01:31:04.555 --> 01:31:07.458
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, so I wish you well.

01:31:08.199 --> 01:31:08.559
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.

01:31:08.920 --> 01:31:12.143
[SPEAKER_01]: I will work on my own mental health.

01:31:12.263 --> 01:31:13.484
[SPEAKER_01]: And in two weeks, we've seen me.

01:31:13.524 --> 01:31:14.225
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll be great.

01:31:14.686 --> 01:31:18.269
[SPEAKER_01]: I got a dog down here that figured out at the time for him to feed.

01:31:18.790 --> 01:31:22.073
[SPEAKER_01]: He's losing his mind, and I'm just like, we're right back to normal.

01:31:22.093 --> 01:31:22.654
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, we got it.

01:31:22.634 --> 01:31:24.116
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, let's make sure it cools okay.

01:31:24.136 --> 01:31:37.115
[SPEAKER_00]: So with that in mind, so again next week, Chris Samson will be stepping in for me and they will take a look at the last day of Fantasco Mania new beginning USA first night of the new Japan cup plenty to talk about next week.

01:31:37.135 --> 01:31:40.080
[SPEAKER_00]: And then when I'm back in two weeks more new Japan cup.

01:31:40.100 --> 01:31:41.061
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure there's going to be news.

01:31:41.101 --> 01:31:42.783
[SPEAKER_00]: There's going to be a lot to cover here.

01:31:42.824 --> 01:31:44.867
[SPEAKER_00]: So make sure you stay with these next couple of weeks.

01:31:44.887 --> 01:31:49.333
[SPEAKER_00]: Don't forget power bombshells on Sunday at one o'clock Eastern time.

01:31:49.313 --> 01:31:52.519
[SPEAKER_00]: The Dynamite Show on right after Dynamite, you can probably figure that out for yourself.

01:31:52.539 --> 01:32:00.754
[SPEAKER_00]: All the other shows that are on the fight game, media, and network, we hope that the wrap, Garrett's show, there's all kinds of good stuff out here.

01:32:01.756 --> 01:32:05.724
[SPEAKER_01]: Real quick, do you have a prediction for the finals of the Neutral Bank Cup?

01:32:08.208 --> 01:32:11.254
[SPEAKER_00]: I think probably on paper,

01:32:11.588 --> 01:32:25.809
[SPEAKER_00]: some sort of thing where who and more aluminum have to look each other in the eye at the end is kind of how I'm going with what and I hope I just hope that one of them turned seal because I said it before if one of these guys just keeps on losing and does nothing about it just as well.

01:32:25.829 --> 01:32:28.252
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just going to pull myself up by the footsteps to try again.

01:32:28.633 --> 01:32:29.895
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm done with them.

01:32:31.077 --> 01:32:32.719
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm already halfway done with

01:32:32.699 --> 01:32:33.600
[SPEAKER_00]: with a couple of them.

01:32:33.620 --> 01:32:35.862
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's, it ain't gonna happen.

01:32:36.002 --> 01:32:48.856
[SPEAKER_00]: If unless they light a fire under one of these guys and give them something interesting to do besides the same thing, these guys have been doing for three years, which is failing and failing and failing and failing and asking people to buy tickets to see guys who fail.

01:32:51.158 --> 01:32:55.522
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you for being mindful of the comment today.

01:32:55.582 --> 01:32:58.065
[SPEAKER_01]: Steven, do we have any more before we are out of here?

01:32:58.163 --> 01:33:00.447
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, not a whole lot that we haven't talked about.

01:33:00.667 --> 01:33:07.339
[SPEAKER_00]: Jordan mentioned the Udo ice versus OEO with the winter facing Zack is a really great little bracket storyline area there, which I agree with.

01:33:07.379 --> 01:33:08.641
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that was a clever way of doing it.

01:33:08.982 --> 01:33:17.416
[SPEAKER_00]: Just keep in mind, Newspand has a history of doing this in the Newspand cup of teasing that a matchup that's intriguing and then not delivered.

01:33:17.436 --> 01:33:20.502
[SPEAKER_01]: Like potentially drill versus Chingo, that type of thing.

01:33:21.183 --> 01:33:22.145
[SPEAKER_00]: We might get one of them.

01:33:22.165 --> 01:33:22.926
[SPEAKER_00]: We ain't going to get all.

01:33:23.026 --> 01:33:23.547
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

01:33:24.100 --> 01:33:29.006
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so keep that in mind, there's going to be one that we're like, oh, that was I was hoping we would get that and it's not it.

01:33:29.026 --> 01:33:32.390
[SPEAKER_00]: We're not that that's going to happen somewhere along this term.

01:33:33.111 --> 01:33:34.993
[SPEAKER_01]: Hug your pet at your tight for me, folk.

01:33:35.073 --> 01:33:35.834
[SPEAKER_01]: Do you even get it out of here?

01:33:36.234 --> 01:33:39.518
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01:33:46.907 --> 01:33:49.590
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