NJPW King of Pro Wrestling Review: Takeshita Wins IWGP Gold & WK Tokyo Dome News | Speaking of Strong Style

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[SPEAKER_00]: King of Pro Wrestling was a pretty good show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There was a lot of great wrestling on it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Some new champions.

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[SPEAKER_00]: A lot of information about things coming up that are going forward and some mystery about some factions.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we have a little bit of clarity and one match for Wrestle Kingdom.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But we still have another big event to get through and give food first.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we're going to talk about each match from King of Pro Wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to talk about the best of the Super Junior tag league coming up next week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to be talking about Gifu and our first match for the big January fourth event.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So plenty to get into this week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's get right to it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: With Jeremy Feinstone, I'm Stephen Conway and this is Speaking of Strong Style.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Welcome, everyone, to Speaking of Strong Style, where we discuss the news issues and events surrounding New Japan pro wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We are contributors to the fight game media network.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's Jeremy, I'm Stephen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was really entertained by this show, Jeremy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know that when we went into it, we felt enthusiastic about it on paper.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It looked like a good event.

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[SPEAKER_00]: When it was happening on Monday, I was sitting there watching it and with a couple of exceptions that were mostly for storyline reasons, I felt action-wise this show really delivered.

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[SPEAKER_00]: How does you feel coming out of KOPW?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I thought it was a better than average show with the only real problem for me being not action, not anything that happened on the show, but that the through line to what we're getting at Recklook Kingdom wasn't made clear.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like the ticket to fold, they fold a bunch of tickets, you know, right out the gate with the mat with like no matches enough.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We now have one match that Ben announced.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not even sure that if the full match that will be on the show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we're going to go into another show with the Tana Hashi, the Tana Hashi night on November 2nd.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think we're going to get the two main events after that show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that two months out from RECO Kingdom, World Tag, we will be underway by the World Tag League.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They should be pumping the main event of RECO Kingdom for the entirety of that tour.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So if they don't have an announced by then,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, no, I agree.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, overall, it was a pretty strong week for wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I enjoyed the Noah show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Also, I bought the paper view.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I bought it and watched it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The Noah show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought her over was terrific.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it thought time the Hashie was pretty good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he had a good weekend.

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[SPEAKER_00]: by the way, his final two matches in symbol hall is a strong weekend for Tana Hashin.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I don't always say that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not afraid to mention when Tana Hashin's not doing well, but this was a strong couple of shows for him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was entertaining.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We've got a you know, Mariah's final match with Marigold was there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it was a very busy weekend for Japanese wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's hard to stand out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And this show, I thought, had some moments that absolutely did.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And boy, the other thing I take away from this Jeremy's boy, the knockout brother, this is the real thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is a, this is a great, I'm act like a man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Are you all in yet?

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[SPEAKER_01]: What kind of a little guy?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was after destruction in Kobe, I just once I saw them as a team and pull out all the stops because we mentioned they were holding back on the road to on the road to shows.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then once they unleashed everything, you just thought, oh, these guys are really good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know how they're getting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, be excited when you're watching these guys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're a shot near for the promotion.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They feel like kinetic energy on the screen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like action when nothing is happening.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was my favorite match on the show, man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, yeah, they are the end factor that disc promotion has been desperately looking for a long time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, let's go into some of this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, first of all, hello to Fernando Zayas.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Fernando is what this column is here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Colin, we're glad you're back with this live here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And anybody else is watching live.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We appreciate your time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Fernando says he's very happy for Takeshita.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Of course, can I skate to Keshita, our new world heavyweight champion.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to talk about that just a bit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Very happy for Takeshita.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He and O'Cotta should win the AEW tag team titles this Saturday and do a two-man power trip type of storyline before turning on each other.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So Fernando's got the AEW booked up for a while.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Colin just says he's not a fan of Katechesh there with the title.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, he has a contract with New Japan, but he also has one with AEW and DDT.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So unless he gets out of at least one of those, he's basically a part timer.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and it's something we're going to be dealing with.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But we kind of saw it come and we explored a little bit and Colin says you wish they kept the title on Zach.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Last week Jeremy you and I talked about a couple of scenarios they could have done that would have involved that keeping the title we mentioned like the go to thing which ended up happening but.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We always suspected that Takeshita was going to take this thing, that they weren't going to pull the trigger on Zach being in the main event of Russell kingdom again, and that's does indeed seem to be the direction and they feel they still feel like Takeshita's the guy the thing is I think he is too, but I also agree with Colin in the circumstances that you're really running a risk of

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[SPEAKER_00]: alienating fans and sometimes even diminishing your own company when your world champion is too busy to show up for a lot of your shows.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And of course he's going to be at the big shows.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it'll probably be on some others before now in the kingdom.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think to catch the wants to be the guy in New Japan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've said that over and over again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think this is in goal.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think he wants to promote this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He wants this to be a success.

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[SPEAKER_00]: it's still gonna look a little weird.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The good news is, a couple of tag team tournaments coming, so you have an excuse for the singles World Champion not to be on them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't look as odd as it did, say, in the build-up to COVID.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a couple of things here that, there's a lot to unpack, but we're gonna try and tackle a couple of things right here right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: To me, I felt like a four-gone conclusion that that's Abraham or the minute he won that title, he wasn't gonna be walking into,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we fantasy booked a couple of things that just didn't feel like the right movement to last year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It didn't feel right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So to catch the winning, the minute he won and he called it, it wasn't like it's especially me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It felt like a foregone conclusion, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like if you any you have the foregone conclusion and you're watching how this guy's time share is working.

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[SPEAKER_01]: in AEW and in New Japan and God help DDT.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's never at DDT.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like the last time you were in DDT was like a year ago, but a cute that they call triple contrast.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Only for there, they're being a show with a year type of thing to do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that, and at a rising time with all ships, and to catch the is banking on the fact that his sheer presence in all these promotions will be in like an uplifting factor.

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[SPEAKER_01]: My hope, and I've spent some time thinking about this, is that they are, they have not carefully about this, and that they are crafting a storyline, and I strongly suspect this is where they're going, Steve.

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[SPEAKER_01]: that they're crafting a storyline that Takeshida is telling you that he is going to be here as much as possible, but he will be an absent champion and that there needs to be somebody on the roster that rises up to bring this title back to make sure that it is important and it gets in home to the fans.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And in the course of that, we can get a story in which Takeshida truly understands what it means to carry the banner of New Japan,

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[SPEAKER_01]: In Japan, and then he has the run after this in which he's on all the tours, like he is one of those top guys that is leading in the thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This can all be a long term plan on their part to create that riff, to create the guy in New Japan, and then to parlay that into Takeshita learning what it means to be the guy in the promotion, not just the guy holding the belt.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, sort of he, he figures out the true meaning of Christmas, so to speak, as he, he comes, as it becomes the champion, and he realizes what it means to him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think that's definitely something that they could do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, I think that it will help out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If there ever is a moment when he's exclusively new Japan, I hope that's where this is all going.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that this side trip to AEW was just, they said, make some money, wrestle some people that are,

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[SPEAKER_00]: pretty good and that you have good relations with, you know, like some people that you're friendly with, make some money over here, and then make that transition not directly from DDT to New Japan out of respect as Ben's opposed by some people, as respect to his home promotion, I mean, then I think this could all work out if the story line is eventually this line mark is where my heart is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and so I think that's something that they should build to if they have a chance to.

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[SPEAKER_01]: something like this, it's not six bucks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, this is 18 months.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is two years.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is like, you're like, it's just like from getting to point A to like getting the whole dust settled and everything wrapped up in this whole thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: like he needs time to breathe, like you need time for a guy to rise up in the middle of this, and then you have the other part of the journey, which is to cash it up, like winning that title again, but with the full report and everybody there because he put in, he understands what it means to be in the brilliant blue, you know, like one of them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, let's get to some other takes some quick reactions here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's from Nick Reeves, next as a high friends, but a weekly listener since new beginning this year, usually listen on Friday mornings, but you'll be keeping me company for packing and driving to the airport today.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Thanks for all you do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, thanks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Nick, we really appreciate it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm glad you're here live.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's nice to have you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And really appreciate your loyal listenership.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he also says,

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[SPEAKER_00]: That K-O-B had really invigorated things for me and helped counter the post G1-Lol.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's been a little shot in the arm for Nick there having K-O-B around and I agree with him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he's done terrific job.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And also this is a no name person.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They just have stars just stars where their name should be.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But asking, so y'all think they're going to run Okata and

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[SPEAKER_00]: Take, I haven't read any saying to Keshta at the dome.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I don't think it's going to be Okada and to Keshta at the dome at all.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think if Okada shows up at the dome, it's because they've made a deal for him to be Tana Hashis final opponent.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's probably the only way, because Ishiko Okada is in the Tokyo dome on January 4th, just my hunch and suspicion.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like to Keshta, I still think.

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[SPEAKER_00]: that we might be headed for Takeshita and Suji here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, there's there are a couple of detours that could take.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's Takeshita and Yoda Suji still feels like the domain event for me now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But ask me in a couple of ways.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I might have something different in mind.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But that's where I think it's going, Jeremy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Even are you current and up to date on AEW right now?

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, okay, right now there is a simmering to a boil feud between because you go Kata and Kenosuke Takeshita, and it's coming to a head, so they did a video with Don Callis this past week where they were celebrating his first day.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And to catch, uh, is on a video screen and they have a 2 min and 30 long second video of him with a message for Dawn while everyone can a banquet hall room sober news birthday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They play the video in 30 second channel, kind of shook off the video and said, Oh, sorry, my hand clicked.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And dogs, I go, that's fine, that's fine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so that's the latest parlay in their feud.

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[SPEAKER_01]: As they're teeming to wrestle together against the tag team champions, Bantito and Brody King.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, obviously, how does it get a little perfectly well?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It sounds like something's going to go perfectly wrong, if at all, if you could read between the like.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, obviously happening is that these two guys are going to have a match together and a lot of people are coming to a conclusion that because they're both Japanese, then it would happen at the Tokyo dome in New Japan.

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[SPEAKER_01]: In my mind, there's not a chance in hell that Tony Con is going to allow the match to happen in any other promotion on any other show, then something he's bankrolling.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And if I had to guess, it would probably be those two in the finals at World Pend, O'Connor versus Takeshita.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, well, you're talking about like the continent of classic finals.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Not the round robin where it all gets to a hat.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The A, W, G, one block.

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[SPEAKER_01]: W, G, one, which will end exactly a week before Russell kingdom.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, there you go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're thinking about politics and you're thinking about, like, how do you slage all the ego here?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think the way that I've got this worked out is that to catch it, it can beat Ocata at the C2.

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[SPEAKER_01]: in whatever the event is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But Ocana gets the main event over Tonahashi in Japan at the Tokyo Dome and Takeshita gets the semi-main, which is kind of like one guy wins in the Improption, but the other guy will collect the bigger star in their home country.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And a week apart, I feel like that kind of how you make everybody happy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's not a bad idea either because with Takeshda especially if the idea is he's going to hopefully be a long-term main event for New Japan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It almost gives you two steps to that process.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's his first big Tokyo Don match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: His first big wrestling kingdom match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: then you can do his first ever Tokyo domain event two different things you don't always get to do it that way and you can build it up so i i like that i think that's probably smart thinking on everybody's part uh... i just i know that new japan's going to be holding its breath hoping that their world heavyweight champion doesn't do a job on uh... don't tv i know it doesn't mean as much in japan uh... two o'clock i mean a week before the big show so uh... that that would be the only issue is right before the

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, a week before the Tokyo dome, one of those guys does a loss.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But again, that matters.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not like there are a whole bunch of people watching AEW in Japan according to what we're seeing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There are a whole lot of people watching AEW in the United States.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's, you know, maybe a less of a deal than it used to be.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think there's anyone that really has a whole lot of O'Connor wants this match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, could he lose against Tana Hoshie?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think they're kind of like, you're in the main event.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're going look to ceremonial aspect to this match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like, there is an aspect of, is O'Connor going to lose the match?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, kind of not going to lose it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like no one's going into the rest of the kingdom thinking is O'Connor going to lose the match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think Tana Hoshie,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know I don't know I don't know I don't know I don't know I don't know I don't know I don't know

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[SPEAKER_00]: And there's a long history of people not doing that, by the way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This whole concept, by the way, I mentioned this before, the idea of going out on your back is something promoters like to tell wrestlers they're supposed to do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you look back in history, there's a lot more of it not happening than happening.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And by then, of course, we will have seen what John Cena and Goethe are doing, so there's a parallel there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But in Okhi didn't really go out on his back, neither did to, you know, Tetsui Fujianami hasn't gone out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's still wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He just wrestled last weekend.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Other guy, Vern Ganya retired as the AWA World Heavyweight Champion.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He came back, of course, as everybody does.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But the idea of going out on your back,

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[SPEAKER_00]: more of a romantic notion that promoters try to exert control over the wrestlers with than anything that actually happens.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I hear you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm also looking at Tona Hashi as the president of the company and doing the business of getting Ocada there is like, hey, can you do the main event the final owner for me?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, oh, also can you job?

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[SPEAKER_00]: He might not, he might not mind who knows.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, Ocada and Tana Hashi got along a lot better than Tana Hashi and not Camoradette.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is fair, there's a lot of respect there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just, I don't have a career to look forward to.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I just don't think it would be the right thing to do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think pre-supposing that O'Conna is in fact the guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we don't know that for sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It just made more sense that the last night for Tana Hosh is better sweet followed by a sobering shift.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I still think it's entirely possible.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's night.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, by the way, but it doesn't necessarily have to be a call.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And when we don't know that it's okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You might not be there at all.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Who knows?

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[SPEAKER_00]: There is no code of bushy anymore folks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was, I said, set it before I'm saying it again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The code of

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like they aired the actual thing that happened and it was part of an angle for the caliph family and I'm just like you've got you've got to be kidding me like

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is just call it off, whatever you had planned.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what to tell you guys like this is all bad.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And see, Nick Reeves has it here, I think, also, by the way, he says, I think Tana will do the job if he faces anyone currently with NJPW or AEW, but would win against anyone else.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I actually, I was thinking that it would just be, if it were one of the current guys, if he couldn't get a special guest star, so to speak.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If it were one of the current guys, he might try to put him over as president just to send the right message so to speak, but because he's kind of a, he's not, he's not a promoter, but he's the president of the company now and, and you know, that's the, you want to fight and he's a fan too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You want, you want compliance with the wrestlers when he asked him to do a job.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, uh,

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[SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, I was thinking even with AEW, if it were, if it were a guest that he would probably put himself over and go out with the cheering and all that kind of stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But if it were somebody that he was going to try to make money with later on top that he would probably put him over that was my thought on that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, we'll see how it turns out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to know pretty soon.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he's going to do this match with Suji and Yifu in Gafu.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I, you know, we'll find out which direction it goes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I hope it's not a global title match with Tana Hashie as the champion.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's the only thing I'm asking here is just, and I worry about that because I sat there and I thought, well, where is he more likely to put himself over one more time in the dome?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Or in his hometown, and I thought, oh, crap.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Suji, and I, you know, all of a sudden I'm all of a sudden that match seems a little more 50, 50 than it did before.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's one more aspect to this that I wonder if they're going to try and do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And to catch you, I'll also have the match on this tonohashi.

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[SPEAKER_00]: whatever it called the tunnel actually final home coming on the member second that could have called it's basically replace power struggle this year we're not doing power struggle this is this is going to be a paper view quote unquote paper view level show so

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a part of me that thinks that there might be an aspect of the Sokana to catch the thing where To catch the wind could final tie to the feds.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he potentially, like, tried to call down Tonahashi, but O'Conan come to the video screen and says, no, I'm going to face Tonahashi.

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[SPEAKER_01]: uh, and try and make their AEW feud over into New Japan and try and do something like that and then play it all back and then really heat it up because to cash you know, being the top dog in New Japan, and then still having O'Connor kid brothering him, uh, when he hasn't been in the promotion for years, is actually a really good trigger to super ignite the few to

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, our friend stars here as it is as he can't wait for time to ask you to put over Utah ice is the ace and forever champion of New Japan pro wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The excitement's real folks, everyone's fired up about these.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let me ask you this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: How unreasonable is that you know, I is a heel champion in the next three years for somebody to overtake.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They can try to make him a heel champion.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not sure you can make him

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe, but he's got, he's got to have that heel edge for a while.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, uh, you, you, maybe fix this guy and he's going to lose all the charisma.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, he already kind of did.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So let's talk about King of Pro Wrestling show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to get through here, boy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, it was Monday, October 13th.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's get the out, we part out of the way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The attendance of this was 5,372.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's not good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's the lowest attendance king of pro wrestling of all time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Last year's was the previous lowest of all time at 6,201.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It keeps the pattern going of things being 15 to 20% down from last year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it looks like it was destruction and co-bay that was the outlier.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So destruction and co-bay was not down.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This was right back to being down 10 or 15 to 20% like it has been.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And not a good crop, not a good crop for the civil.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We will see this match here, let it all off, which is a match that didn't even exist.

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[SPEAKER_00]: When we did the show last week, this one, we got off the air and then found out that this one was coming.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it was three defending, the IWGP women's title against Sherry.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, of course, when I saw this announced, I thought two things, which is, oh wow, cool, that's gonna be really, really good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And second of all, oh,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Startems done was sorry.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, there's no reason to do this on what three days notice on our four days notice or whatever it was.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Unless they were done with this whole thing of a three as a and I don't not think she's never going to start them again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think that's true.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think when they when they need or she'll be back, but.

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[SPEAKER_00]: For now, I believe that they have had their fill of it, or have heard of working for everybody in the world, because for this to just be that short and notice, and then do the title switch, that somebody's been with someone, whichever direction it was.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it was a terrific match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So Rie was a little healish with some hair pulling earlier and she got some booze.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The people for the new Japan fan seemed to understand that she was the heal in this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They started without hurrying.

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[SPEAKER_00]: A lot of these matches looked to be sprints.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So when I was watching it, I just thought, oh, they are going to get some time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're going to get some time here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it went about 15 minutes, 1456, which is a long women's match on a new Japan show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: uh... they even had to achieve the uh... start a referee in there uh... he was uh... he's he's a terrific referee and he was in there for this one there were some stiff four arms i mean both of these women have some mma background to him and they were going to lay him in and uh... get some oozing eyes from that crowd i like the double wrist lock spot off the ropes by sure he uh... and then later on

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[SPEAKER_00]: Serega three different year in Aggies, which got a two count and at that point, the crowd was kind of expecting, well, he hit something three times, then, you know, it's kind of one, two, three and then that's it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Instead, Serega kicked out and the crowd was into it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The crowd was excited by it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was a very good match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Serega ended up hurting hitting the Serega's side to win.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's kind of her version of a one-winged angel.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not too far off from a one-winged angel.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This match was great and now Serega is the IWGP women's champion again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: of two-time champion.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The next day, Jeremy, New Japan announced that Saia Kamatani would be at rest looking them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, Saia Kamatani is the world of startup champion, the Red Belt.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She is by far, the biggest star, and she is red hot, and only sexism would keep her from being the Tokyo Sports MVP this year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just don't think there's even a second place for that award this year,

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[SPEAKER_00]: which begs the question.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's great news that Syah Kamatani is going to be a wrestling kingdom.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But are we getting title versus title on the women's side as well?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because we're also going to have, Sherry, as the IWGP Women's Champion, is that the match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, startup has a few things to do before they can formally announce much of anything.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, Comitani has a title mashing in Smobile Watanabe and Shuri has some things to do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, as we get closer, we'll see.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But you have to have the IWGP women's champion on the show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're going to have the Red Bell champion.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is the whole theme of the night going to be title for title, maybe?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It could be just the IWGP women that I don't need to exist.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, that's, that's the other side of it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is this the, the, like they have already taken the NJPW strong title and put it with sure, sure he defeated Osmie and won that belt.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And now she's carrying around both of them, uh, is this yet another belt collector?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Are they gathering these things up before Mercedes-Beney gets a hold of them?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, maybe we just start a hoard these, but, uh, whatever it is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But, uh, it could be, it could be as simple as just doing a double championship thing,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I went to that first, but I have to say this, that's a statistic.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I actually got up at midnight to watch the show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I walked to five.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The first two hours of it before I just, I jumped out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And

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[SPEAKER_01]: This woke me up good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This was just a fantastic heart hitting our show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Stephen is called speaking a strong style and that's what I was thinking of when I watched a show speaking a strong style.

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[SPEAKER_01]: These two women laid it in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I would actually really surprise that Surrey lost a title, but as he mentioned, you know, she might have other arrangements, you know, they might have changed and, you know, wasn't so long ago that she will state side and Tony Connor kicking the tyrants with her on the ring of honor show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And now we have this and I just, I wouldn't be surprised if she will somehow some way walking up with Mercedes Bonae relatively soon.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, you know, that would probably be pretty good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, Mercedes Manay and Sari would be good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I like Sari in Japan, just because I think the styles are better, but.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, oh, oh, my Nick mentioned it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Some stiff headbutts in the women's title mansion felt like more headbutts than usual on this whole show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought the same thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Nick, I did.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There were a lot of headbutts on this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They were, I showed it, showed it that uses them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: in a safe way in that he kind of headless the person's chest and it makes it with his hair and all that it makes it look like he's getting them on the chin.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not forehead to forehead, but these kind of were and most of them were blocked.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, there's a ways to you grab the other person's head and you're kind of headbutting your own thumbs rather than just going skull to skull.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Somebody's pretty snug.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Some of these are pretty snug and just for everybody out there

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[SPEAKER_00]: You don't have to keep hitting each other in the head that hard for real.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You can feel free to work that don't feel free to work your headbud, please.

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[SPEAKER_01]: With that said, if you are picking and choosing the match if to watch on this show, do not skip this match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do not skip it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Very, very talented women overall in start-up, the depth of that company is tremendous.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I know that three is a freelancer and all that sure is one of the very best.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Even though start-up doesn't really push her

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[SPEAKER_00]: Effectively, and hasn't really since she lost the red belt to Julia years ago, but make no mistake.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Surey in a singles match is one of the very best.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So here you go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Steven, now that we got that one match that we didn't actually know about when we did our preview, I wanted to say, I thought we nailed our preview pretty comfortably, basically based off of what we discussed and what actually happened on the show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm pretty pleased to, by God.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and Nick has a hearing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He says a stiff head, but makes me cringe more than anything.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Desperate in June, because I could ever do to each other.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't like to sound the sound really like, like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: But what you say is true, Jeremy, we had this thing covered and we smoked out a lot of what they were planning.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And this next one here, 6% tag match with the wardogs and unaffiliated, was set up to something that would come a little bit later.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But these matches, these, sometimes eight man, sometimes six man, these have been the highlight of what were otherwise lackluster road to shows.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But these guys just sort of feed off each other.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's a lot of energy in these.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they were off in the best match of the night on the road to.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And here it is in the second position on this show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it also had a lot of energy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It looked like the guys were having fun in there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They've worked with each other a lot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it was all very smooth, very crisp.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Finley ended up beating Teton after a buckle bomb and an overkill.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But this was just a chance for six guys to go out there, have a little bit of fun, do some good wrestling, keep the energy up on the show, and then we were going to come back to all this a little bit later.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But good stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was a good, it was short, but it was good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think, I think Teton was the end factor here that kind of changed things up from what we'd been getting a lot of the time, because he hadn't really been on the tours up to this point.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And when he was in there, he was like this spark that all the other guys are there to be like, yeah, I'm rest of you in a while, let's do this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, you could definitely just kind of see you that are like, oh, man, we are.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's, but fun wrestling you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, exactly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we're not going to be saying these guys against each other anytime soon again, it doesn't look like it's perhaps.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, not for now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Not for now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we've talked about the good stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now let's do this match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But right in Rio Goku, no disqualification, no countout match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Drill and Maloney against Sanana.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now this wasn't terrible, but

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[SPEAKER_00]: uh... we had two entrances from senata so first of all the guy came out in the mirror ball suit uh... and uh... got up on the ring apron and took his uh... will mask off and it wasn't senata he fooled us oh and then uh... although it did kind of look like senata they found a guy who kind of look like him i i will admit i did not realize it wasn't him until he actually took the mask off i wasn't i didn't have a reason to look that hard uh...

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[SPEAKER_00]: But then, anyway, afterwards, the real one came out wearing the jacket with the speakers, the music speakers all over it, and he walked through the crowd with the guitar.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So a little fool you think.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But then that mirror ball guy just went away.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We never saw him again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maloney got things started early.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He used a fork to get blood on Sanada within a minute or two.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sanada did it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You can see he wasn't totally comfortable with it, but he did it and he bladed a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Got some blood.

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[SPEAKER_00]: A little color.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And later on, though, a shot from Sanada.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I had it down as a guitar shot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if he actually hit him with a guitar or who was something else.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maloney hit an absolute flipping gusher of a blade job on this thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He was just pouring blood out of his head.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I was freaking carry.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my goodness, so great moota would have been proud, great moota one of the great bleeders in wrestling history, but this wasn't moota ask, but there were puddles, there were absolutely puddles, and there was a ref bump, so they didn't see the pin on the first drill of Killa, then we got kind of our own toe go running in, counters made the save with the tire,

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that tires is over as anybody in the war dogs right now that's not named Gabe and then Meloni Drill Sonata with a clean guitar shot Drill a killer this was a total victory for Drill and Meloni he has won this feud with Sonata he smashed the guitar over his head hit his finisher pinned him clean

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think of all the war dogs where there's a lot of uncertainties surrounding them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we might not even have the war dogs anymore in a way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But Jeremy, I think Dr. Lamaloni has a bright future in New Japan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he's charismatic.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think the people like him, he's in phenomenal shape.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he got something out of Sonata that not many people are getting in that's anything out of Sonata.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This was a great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it was as much as Drillock had pulled out of him and I'm encouraged that they just had Drillow win this feud with the idea that now he can go on to bigger things than a midcard guy and house the torture.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm encouraged for Drillemolony.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm happy for him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I hope it does lead to something a little bit more for him because I think he's a very talented guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think, I think you're right, this was leading on to bigger and better things for him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think, I think they're building around this guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because, let's look back at 2025, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: GameCid, he had that trend-fendant match with Kenny Omega that put him on this radar and, first,

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[SPEAKER_01]: For all intents and purposes, there was a dialogue and a conversation of, have Gabe Kid when the G1, have Gabe Kid do this, give him plans, like put him in the spotlight and, you know, when he did the global title thing, like he, he'd question for the global title, he wanted, he had an unfortunate G1, and then the story was someone coming after him for the global title.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But if you really look, and you really think about who they invested in in NutriPan over the past year, and Drilla Mooney.

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[SPEAKER_01]: like they put them in program shingo.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They put them in programs with shee.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They put them in high profile fumes all throughout the year, the New Japan Cup.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He got upset wins.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He got wins going into the New Japan Cup.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He got wins that you didn't think you was going to get in the G1 and now he's in single matches.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Along the card, when guys like David Finley are not in single matches on this card.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and see that they're clearly building this guy up and trying to give credibility to him in a way that they're not doing it with guys like Kalm Newman.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're not investing gay kid the way that they're investing in Jerome Loney.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, like

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[SPEAKER_01]: We had our talk about one game, one game kid, future was going to be, and it's probably gonna be some type of blood-fueled special match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I wrestle kingdom, if anything at all, and I feel strong more strongly about that and ever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Throw him on me, I'm not sure what kind of match he's gonna have a wrestle kingdom, but I'm pretty sure if you're gonna have a pretty important match at wrestling kingdom in the year after.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, I think that's true.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he's one of the few guys in the war dogs they feel secure with because there are

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's uncertainty with all the others basically that I mean get on issue more you aren't going anywhere, but you know what I'm talking about all the way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Not going anywhere.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he has girlfriend in the AEW.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So there is that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he's the shoutouts constantly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He misses her terribly apparently, but it just feels like they feel secure with Maloney and there are a lot of things going for him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He can talk.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I said, the look, he has the most believable finish in all of wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think like, is there any doubt that a drill a killer would beat you?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, if he hit that on anybody, it's believable.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So what going for the guy?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Nick said, I thought drill and Sonata over achieved, which is all I can ask for from a Sonata match in 2020.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Go low bar.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But this one did well, this one did well for that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Scott Edwards is here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Scott, are you wrestling?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hope you're well, guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I say Scott, led you here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Don't forget to check out his channel as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you want to know anything at all about Josie wrestling, he knows alt.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't know what's next for Sonata Midcard is fine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's about where he belongs, but better things ahead for drill and a loaning.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What's next here?

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[SPEAKER_00]: We had Goro back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So this this was a nice little feel good moment.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was exactly what we said it was going to be.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was Goro's return.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He got a big response from the crowd at Simo Hall.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Big Goro chance.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Everyone was thrilled he was back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: he was in there with his buddy Yoshihashi is right or die and yo who was wearing street fighter T-shirt I appreciated that and they wrestled TMDK that being Hartley Jackson, Kosef Ujde and Rio Heo Wewa, Ujde and Owewa at Jackson they were here to facilitate one thing and one thing only and that is to do the field good job for a godo.

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[SPEAKER_00]: 8 minutes hits the Choto and the GTR on Hartley, Goto is is back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's successful.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's happy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And this is simply a moment for everyone to welcome him back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Mission accomplished.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm still not sure that it wasn't the right call or that it was the right call to take the belt off of Goto.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm still not sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I watched him come out to hear him like, holy crap.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He is just, he is a made man in New Japan.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like that's how I will got him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like he's just like as long as there are shinnahon fans that your pan, go to is going to be the goal to do for them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like they can go back to him whenever they want.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think that's actually going to be a detriment because

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[SPEAKER_01]: the company might not realize what they truly have with him right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And maybe they don't have the room or the space to to what that thrive.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I don't know, go to over this to cash if that had been the match at the main event in this show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It might have been a better match to me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it probably would have almost certainly would have drawn more.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Did it, it is totally, but I like seeing Goto.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think TMDK does not get enough credit for being a stabilizing force in this approach right now, because whenever they else has been up in the array, TMDK is just doing their TMDK thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you think Jackson and O'Weewell is the heavyweight TMDK world tagling team?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, 100%.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, they already have one of the best junior teams in the world with food down and Eagles, I think that Jackson and OE would together could be really dynamic.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not saying they win the thing because I think there's a decent chance, there's a decent chance to be shaman wins world tag league and challenges knockout brothers at the dome that I think that would be interesting, but there are a lot of options for that, but yeah, so

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's not Saber Jr.

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[SPEAKER_01]: is committed to a bunch of dates and Noah and elsewhere during the month of November, which kind of cuts into the world tag league time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think partly in OEWA is the team there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Samson, our discord actually mentioned something that I forgot earlier in the show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The world champion typically isn't on the world tably tour right and over the last like 10 years like when shingo with champion he wasn't on the tour would have caught it with champion you wasn't on the tour so to catch a not being on these tours is not actually unusual oh yeah the two tag team tournaments provide a lot of cover for that to the two tag team tournaments but and they they like that in the past because at least it lets the guys in the main event rest up and heal up

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[SPEAKER_00]: And really they only do like the Christmas Corican and a couple of road to the Tokyo Dom shows there's only like three shows after World Tag League leading up to this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's fine that it's not there, but you know it's I said it's still a weird message when the champ is on his wrestling for other people and not here and and also that it's not even being mentioned on the other show a lot of times it's it's it's it's weird.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And like I said, A, W, doesn't have a huge following in Japan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's okay, but they know about it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a, it's awkward.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You typically have the buffer though of the champion or the person who's going to be champion on the tours upcoming, you know, like doing the grind to get there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you didn't really have that either.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's like, you have to like keep that in mind when you're saying, oh, the champion is a brilliant

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[SPEAKER_01]: But that's always the case, but it's not always the case that they're not on the tour going into the tour, you know, like the tour before the tour before that, like they're on those tours and that that the different, that's the different life you mean like the Christmas Corican thing or something?

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, like on the road to destruction Kobe and the road to King of Pro Wrestling, they weren't on these, like he wasn't on these tours, so then not being on that net tour, it's just like,

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[SPEAKER_01]: feeling a preconceived, like a ping in about this guy's never here, but the inactuality, the champion never really is there on Super Junior Tag League of World Tag League.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's the difference this time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he's playing into it a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that was a heel pro we cut to nice.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, we'll get to all that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So anyway, keep go to in mind, file him away.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's not done yet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: After this one, we had the television title match, Hiroshi Tanahashi and L fan Tasmo, and I mentioned, of course, that Tanahashi got the win on the Noah show teaming with Kiyomiya.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And against, uh, it was a Marifuji and Kennell, good match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he got the victory.

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[SPEAKER_00]: In this one, he and L. Fantasmo worked a lot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, Tanaashi worked on ELP's knees.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He turned a UFO into a sling blade, which is kind of a cool move right there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, he barely got over the ropes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: When he he hoists himself over the top rope to climb the turn buckle, almost didn't make it again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He almost got tangled up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But this is a pretty decent version of Tonahashi in this final Symo Hall match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Of course, he was motivated to make it as good as he could.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Fans were into it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They were chanting for him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He kicked out of a CR2.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He was also a thunder kiss for two as time was ticking down.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he had a feeling that either Tonahashi was going to put Fantasma over.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They could just do the draw.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he was pretty clear what they were going to do after he kicked out of that thunder kiss right there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They went through a few pin attempts, and then Elf Antesmo actually had Tana Hashie's covert leave on him as time expired.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was a good match, probably the right result.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it was all the setup, Fantasmo asking Tana Hashie to team with him in World Tag League, which is apparently going to happen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's a smart move.

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[SPEAKER_00]: El Fantasma can do most of the work in that one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Tana Hash, you can play Ricky Morton and get the hot tag.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the lot of the pressure comes off of him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He'll do more than just the hot tag.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it's, I think that's a right idea.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Put in with somebody who's a really strong worker and can carry most of the match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then everybody on World Tagly gets a chance to see Tana.

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[SPEAKER_00]: but this was fine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was what it needed to be a 15-minute draw is about right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He doesn't need to be the television champion and they can move on now as still friends and future partners.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I hope if they're in World Tag week together, that they do in fact get shirts, that J.K.E.L.T.

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[SPEAKER_01]: on it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like the outline of Tauna Hashi doing the air guitar and the outline

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's kind of like that that like line outline kind of like a band style, I would buy that shirt because that is That's my jam kind of thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: A ton of hot she jam.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought this match was about as best it was going to be and I thought the draw was always the foregone conclusion.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Neither one of these guys needed to win or lose the match and there was no reason why they couldn't just go 15 minutes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's also pretty weird.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's clear to me that it's a town of how she likes ELP a lot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just, yeah, there's flexibility, likes working with them and just wanted to do it more time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Next says he enjoyed most of town of the singles matches this year, but this is one of the better ones.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, there you go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it was nice.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I got a gift on a hot shoe respect.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He was on every tour and he wrestled damn near every night.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, he, I don't think there's been more than like one or two nights if at all where, you know, plans change in ton of hot she couldn't go or anything like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He showed up every night for this final year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and that can't be easy, that can't be great on his body right now, but he feels an obligation and responsibility to a whole lot of people, both in front of and behind the curtain and dammit, he is doing everything he can to deliver.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I just got to tip my cap to him on my one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, after that, we had the never open weight title match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This was the stinker of the night.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This just didn't perfectly average match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think I needed to bump itself up a little bit to get to average, but evil against both.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And this was the

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was basically the set up to another angle that would happen after the match, but a lot of interference, not the good kind of the ref bombs showing kind of Maro were in there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yano and the young lions hold them out, but every time Bolton got close to winning this match, another member of House of Torscher would come out and cause issues and put weight there more.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Wasn't the good version of any of this, basically, and Bolton kind of did what he could.

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[SPEAKER_00]: evil kind of did what he could, but this thing was just book to within an inch of its life, just overbooked.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so we found out why they overloaded the interference.

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[SPEAKER_00]: In the end, just too much, too much interference, too many shots with various objects, you know, you had dokey, you had everybody out there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And finally, it's everything is evil.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He wins the never-open wayside.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Fine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The reason they overloaded the interference.

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[SPEAKER_00]: For the first time, Aaron Wolf got involved.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He slid into the ring and threw a couple of guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it was what Yujero and show with Judo throws.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Through the Game of Judo throws, Game of Dick Togo, pretty good looking body slam.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then an incredibly awkward moment took place, Jeremy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: in that he had thrown two of the smaller guys and body slammed another one of the stronger basically threw around the juniors they did all that to make him look as strong as possible because he did it absolutely effortlessly keep mine he was a super heavyweight gold medalist of judo this is a bad bad man in real life so that's not somebody you want to

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[SPEAKER_00]: Then, folly comes in the ring.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Somebody else, I don't even remember who there's 20 members of House of Torture, it's probably a member of the Callous family just statistically, and then Eve will stand in there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they just look at him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like four or five on one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they're just staring at him and they do nothing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and wolf is staring at him and he does nothing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Nothing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they just look at each other.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they're all doing nothing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And wolf has an absolutely blank expression on his face, showing absolutely no anger, no frustration, no happiness, no excitedness.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He absolutely, if you had told me that this guy was watching television, sitting on his couch, that's the look on your face that Erid wolf had at this point.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then they just left.

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[SPEAKER_00]: House of torture is like five on one and no one does anything else and everybody just left.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was poorly done.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was awkward.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Here's the thing about Wolf.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was exactly what we thought they would do, Stephen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so they came out later and Wolf said, I want my match to be against evil.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And afterwards, in backstage comments, he said that I just couldn't stand it anymore and I had to slide in the ring and get involved.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know I'm not supposed to.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm a young lion, but I was sick of

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, that's not even a bad angle.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm down.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I have to remind myself.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Bolton Oleg was very wooden his first year in the business.

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[SPEAKER_00]: very stoic, didn't betray a lot of emotion at all.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Pretty clear that he was trying hard to remember his dance steps more than that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean is like 1, 2, 3, 1.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now I do this and then I do this and then later he got the charisma later on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Then he got the facial expressions.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Then he got the hitting a move and then you know roaring to the crowd and he's good now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's got fire.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This was his first time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Recall, you know, but this is not encouraging sharing it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, we're going to get that match at the dumb.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Evil is going to be his first opponent.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Evil is a good technician.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He can probably walk him through what will probably be a highly courier graph match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But what this is so awkward, just everybody just staring at each other with no emotion on any space and then just walking away.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's one of those things to probably look okay on paper and then it got in the ring and just fell with the

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[SPEAKER_01]: This was everything I thought they were going to do and everything is they thought they were going to convey and when all came down to it, it was Aaron Wolfe that was not able to meet the moment, you know, it is he just started training it's it's a lot to be able to able to train or to like, yeah,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, what's an obvious is trainer here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's true.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There is there is a formula to this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They are they're giving it their best shot and what they can do is that they can Monday morning quarterback and look at the tape, you know, they put him in live action and said here of where you went right here where you went wrong, let's build from this because now like

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can't tell me did everything wrong because you can't like destroy the student confident.

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[SPEAKER_01]: See, I feel like you're making it right here, like you did wrong.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Look, it's New Japan, the Bosch the thing by having him stand in there against five guys and have the five guys not do anything.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what I'm New Japan, not Aaron.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's on Newspot, not Aaron, so that was their screw up on that and then, you know, Wolf, it was, he was probably nervous, I'm like, I would have been, you know, I, you know, that's a lot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, like, when you're there and you're like, you're standing there and looking tough, you're like, I don't have to do anything.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just look tough, but to like the greater audience, like, what is this guy doing?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, you have probably like I'm looking strong.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm looking opposing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just beat the guys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What if everyone want me to do like he's got to like public shoulders out a little bit more, you know, like have that command and dominating like stands in front of them that's like, yeah, I'm going to destroy you unless you leave.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he stands here for these one like he looks at each of them like I dare you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I hope you do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I hope you do right now You know, you got to do that rather than like I you just saw what I could do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What are you gonna do now?

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[SPEAKER_01]: But not say anything like you did not convey a killer spirit You did not convey the the will of a lion in in the ring and said this is my ring get out

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they're still, they're still time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They've got a couple more months to train with him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Whatever they do with the dome, will probably be close to choreographed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They'll work through it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He'll know his dance steps and things will see how it goes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's a lot of time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: A lot of time for him to grow into this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's not a lot of time before the dome for a new trainee.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that was always my thing about this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like he started training in the summertime or in the late spring.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's not a lot of time to get ready.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But hey, if you're the first match on the card,

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[SPEAKER_01]: that depends on how well he's doing that depends on how well he's doing right now to not a never openweight title match right yeah there's I think there's probably more to go between now and that sure it's like by the least it's all story it may end up being never openweight title match but it's very deliberate that at this point it is not.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Nick says, as an evil defender, I can not defend this one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There wasn't even any real attempt to build drama within the match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's very true.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You never really felt like Bolton was going to win the thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He even hit a kamikaze, and you know he won.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The ref is out or distracted or something.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was just one of those, it was such a house a torture parade of interference that you were just waiting for it to end.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So didn't pan out very well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But, and then Nick also says, some say Aaron Wolfen,

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[SPEAKER_00]: still standing in symbol hall they will have to try to clear them out before the morning goes show again to the market.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hopefully they make it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was a good one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, what do we do next here?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, let's cleanse the palate here a little bit because we have the neck out, brothers, next.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Again, show to Umano and you, you know, we're more and now we're talking to Jeremy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is for context, Steven.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is where I turn the show off.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I brought it up in the middle morning because I started watching this match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I am too tired to properly process my emotions about how excited I am for this match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because I, and then I fell asleep for four hours and then I picked up and watched it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that was the right call.

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[SPEAKER_00]: you know what I pop for and this match more than anything else it's not even the knockout brothers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What showed it in you, you hit power and glory, they did.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I popped for that one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They actually had the superplex into the splash.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, when Paul Roma and Hercules did that in WWE F when I was a kid, I love that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No one was doing stuff like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was fun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I wanted, well, how for power and glory.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So the synchronity between the two, I wanted, like, I wanted them to have some coordinated moves and boy did they.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll tell you what, Ray Hernandez.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was Hercules Hernandez, and then he was Hercules in the WWF, and all that underrated dude.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That guy was good, everywhere he went.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, these guys have undeniable charisma.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm talking about the knockout brothers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They work really well together as a team.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Of course, they told the whole story that you know it's going to try to pull his arm out of a socket again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's the story you have to tell about this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oster was working toward a sleeper doing his power moves.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's exactly the type of story that you should tell here in the end.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The knockout brothers use teamwork and they put it all together.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's a rare case of a wrestling company going with the intuitive narrative that a good team can beat two singles guys because the team work makes the difference.

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[SPEAKER_00]: in so many companies, especially in America, it's odd how infrequently it's booked that way, that the two singles guys keep beating the team over and over again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Look back on it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've been suspended in like tag team wrestling that much.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he booked his tag team champions to lose to singles guys all the time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's happened in just about every promotion in the United States that the two singles guys beat the great tag team.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was gratified.

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[SPEAKER_00]: that when Uto and Oscar started hitting double team moves, that the story was that was too much for one guide, and they hit the knockout bomb.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Excuse me on UA mora, they beat him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The match was crisp.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was well wrestled.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Again, the charisma is just pouring out of these guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The crowd was into everything they did.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Umano and wooing Mura, I thought we're up to the task and put on a Hello match before doing the job.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think this accomplished everything they were hoping to accomplish.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's the first successful defense of the IWGP Heavyweight Tagging Titles.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Since King of Pro Wrestling last year, and they're the most exciting things in the company.

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[SPEAKER_01]: A plus match made the show to me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not kidding here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Everything else was as I expected or in one case, kind of let me down a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but this one hit on all cylinders for me, not only that, it gave me more confidence about the future of New Japan than any other match that I have seen in the last calendar year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm glad you enjoyed it as much as I did.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought it was strong and

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[SPEAKER_00]: Nick Reeves says the biggest takeaway from this match for me is that showed is a great tag wrestler and works much better in short spurts.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought, oh, I'm more on Umina, we're a dynamic team.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I really like what I saw there.

58:27.197 --> 58:30.318
[SPEAKER_00]: So if they bring this thing to world tagly, I mean, I think it would be fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Fernando, Ziya, agrees that hercules Hernandez is totally underrated.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It, you know, he's a guy who's, you know, Hernandez's brother he's from around here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And here being Texas where I'm from.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So maybe I'm a little bit biased.

58:43.634 --> 58:52.216
[SPEAKER_00]: It came up in the Houston and mid-South and world-class territories, but just a great body, good worker could talk just in.

58:52.276 --> 58:59.378
[SPEAKER_00]: And one of those guys just never really got the world title push, just because there was always somebody, maybe a little more, Roy did up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I mean, look where he was.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He was in world class with the Von Erics.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No one goes over the Von Erics, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: He was a body guy who could work.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then WF of course, he was there during the ultimate warrior Hulk Hogan years.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Good luck.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, so, but terrific wrestler everywhere he went.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He was really good in himself, too, working with Doug and all those guys during some of the hottest periods that company had.

59:26.074 --> 59:29.275
[SPEAKER_01]: So, Brad has not a body guy, but he... No.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, and you know, the thing is with him, he just has that error danger.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You can't take your eyes off the guy, like something might happen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I feel like he's gonna pull a knife out from a pocket and give me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know, and I'll tell you what Oscar has really asserted himself as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a different kind of charisma, but we mentioned it a little bit last week that I think he can be, and you said it too, I think, that he can be what Hickaleo, what they wanted Hickaleo to be.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, just the guy that is is that big and that tall can work that well and can get the crowd into it and you know, Hickaleo went to WF or WWE, excuse me, I'm thinking about Ray Hernandez back in the WF days, but he went to WWE and you know, you can't argue with that he's doing well and he was he's been part of some big story lines over there, but I felt like he left just as he was starting to gain a little bit of momentum as a worker and now I think Oscar might be

01:00:29.395 --> 01:00:55.130
[SPEAKER_01]: I had of where Hicklea was, as far as just being able to to work a match, the one thing that I'm taking away from this, and I don't know if you even got the same like vibe or feeling, but when you don't ice an Oscar one, the way that they celebrated made it feel to me like it was the most important and big thing that ever happened in their life.

01:00:55.768 --> 01:00:59.929
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and then a lot of ways probably was they put it over.

01:01:00.049 --> 01:01:07.112
[SPEAKER_01]: They put it all right like these guys were going up just like look at us.

01:01:07.292 --> 01:01:23.637
[SPEAKER_01]: We did this like we're the guy were the man and like you can see Oscar just like What these entire body and like victory just like curly up and yelling to the sky like yeah, we did it and and it was still hewish

01:01:24.828 --> 01:01:29.351
[SPEAKER_01]: But like you couldn't help it like, yeah, no, you guys earned that one.

01:01:29.431 --> 01:01:32.933
[SPEAKER_01]: Why I'm not scared of those shame in that game.

01:01:33.914 --> 01:01:35.915
[SPEAKER_01]: You beat each other to hell and you're the better meant.

01:01:36.808 --> 01:01:39.529
[SPEAKER_00]: there's a lot of reality in that though for them, isn't it?

01:01:39.749 --> 01:01:47.033
[SPEAKER_00]: These guys probably dreamed of this when they were laying on mats in the Follei dojo, New Zealand, and then they were in the no gay dojo.

01:01:47.453 --> 01:01:52.836
[SPEAKER_00]: When they were sleeping on people's couch is going around Germany and England, wrestling these small shows.

01:01:53.776 --> 01:01:54.436
[SPEAKER_00]: This was the goal.

01:01:55.217 --> 01:01:55.657
[SPEAKER_00]: This is it.

01:01:55.837 --> 01:01:56.397
[SPEAKER_00]: And they got it.

01:01:56.597 --> 01:01:57.558
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what you put in.

01:01:57.738 --> 01:01:58.078
[SPEAKER_01]: That's one

01:02:00.513 --> 01:02:19.889
[SPEAKER_00]: And these two are capable, I think, of making the, if they go with it, the making the tag team titles a main event thing, maybe not a wrestling kingdom, maybe not a dominion, but these guys can headline in some circumstances, I think, and it's the kind of team that can elevate the belts and the division if they let it a total top act.

01:02:20.594 --> 01:02:20.734
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

01:02:21.416 --> 01:02:21.736
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

01:02:21.756 --> 01:02:22.538
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, good for that man.

01:02:22.578 --> 01:02:23.039
[SPEAKER_00]: We're happy.

01:02:23.199 --> 01:02:28.709
[SPEAKER_00]: And then then we got this one Yoda Suji against Gabe kid for the IWGP global titles.

01:02:28.990 --> 01:02:31.434
[SPEAKER_00]: This ended up being consequential both during and after the match.

01:02:32.798 --> 01:02:34.479
[SPEAKER_00]: These guys have faced each other before, of course.

01:02:34.499 --> 01:02:35.500
[SPEAKER_00]: So there were some callbacks.

01:02:35.580 --> 01:02:36.260
[SPEAKER_00]: What 24 to 13?

01:02:36.300 --> 01:02:38.122
[SPEAKER_00]: So it was a long match.

01:02:38.682 --> 01:02:43.025
[SPEAKER_00]: Kid had Suji hung up on the ropes and physically resisted the urge to climb up.

01:02:43.625 --> 01:02:50.490
[SPEAKER_00]: After he had that calamitous miss, where he just airballed the Oto Suji on a move earlier in the year.

01:02:50.910 --> 01:02:52.551
[SPEAKER_00]: So I like that they did a callback to that.

01:02:53.432 --> 01:02:57.315
[SPEAKER_00]: And this time he resisted the urge to dive on the Suji.

01:02:58.335 --> 01:03:01.178
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, there was, uh, it's a really good match.

01:03:01.238 --> 01:03:04.241
[SPEAKER_00]: I got to bring up something here that really bothered me.

01:03:05.122 --> 01:03:08.065
[SPEAKER_00]: Had books, yeah, but also this.

01:03:08.505 --> 01:03:11.768
[SPEAKER_00]: There was a spot where Gabe kid hit the back of his head.

01:03:11.828 --> 01:03:13.270
[SPEAKER_00]: I think on the Turnbook or something.

01:03:14.591 --> 01:03:17.153
[SPEAKER_00]: Walker Stewart says,

01:03:18.228 --> 01:03:21.830
[SPEAKER_00]: that that would make him more of a mental case than he already was.

01:03:22.931 --> 01:03:24.052
[SPEAKER_00]: That was the line from that.

01:03:25.132 --> 01:03:25.613
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:03:26.193 --> 01:03:27.654
[SPEAKER_00]: Is this a link to the next line?

01:03:27.734 --> 01:03:30.175
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I see why that problematic.

01:03:30.676 --> 01:03:42.123
[SPEAKER_00]: He said, with this guy's open about his mental health struggles, talking to the point of considering suicide, that was a stupid line, even for someone as amateurish as Walker is at this job.

01:03:44.021 --> 01:03:52.589
[SPEAKER_00]: He needs to be more intelligent than that than to say that a guy who has struggled with this openly is more of a mental case.

01:03:53.230 --> 01:03:54.631
[SPEAKER_00]: That phrase, what the hell?

01:03:55.292 --> 01:04:01.538
[SPEAKER_00]: Then when he gets hit in the head during a match, stupid and childish amateurish.

01:04:02.479 --> 01:04:05.521
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's enough of a struggle.

01:04:07.583 --> 01:04:08.103
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, great.

01:04:08.364 --> 01:04:10.505
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to have a silence to kind of testing never heard it.

01:04:10.545 --> 01:04:14.868
[SPEAKER_00]: Hopefully the past over and jumped out like a jumped out of me.

01:04:14.888 --> 01:04:19.432
[SPEAKER_01]: I was just like, yeah, I didn't catch it either, but in the context of that, I'm like, yeah.

01:04:21.452 --> 01:04:24.714
[SPEAKER_01]: You could be, you could find a different way to approach the same topic.

01:04:24.734 --> 01:04:25.815
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, be better than that.

01:04:25.935 --> 01:04:26.456
[SPEAKER_00]: Be better than that.

01:04:26.956 --> 01:04:31.239
[SPEAKER_00]: This match built, though, since it was going long and we'll move on from that now.

01:04:32.560 --> 01:04:33.621
[SPEAKER_00]: He hit a Guerrero special.

01:04:33.661 --> 01:04:34.421
[SPEAKER_00]: Suzy did, of course.

01:04:34.782 --> 01:04:36.023
[SPEAKER_00]: He makes that look really, really good.

01:04:36.043 --> 01:04:37.484
[SPEAKER_00]: That's a hard move to do well.

01:04:38.204 --> 01:04:44.509
[SPEAKER_00]: I've seen, I've seen more bad versions of it from people not named Altamogarrero than I've seen good ones, but Suzy does it well.

01:04:45.469 --> 01:04:46.570
[SPEAKER_00]: And that picked things up a notch.

01:04:46.590 --> 01:04:49.993
[SPEAKER_00]: Kid avoided the gene blast, hit a pile driver, back out the crowd.

01:04:50.693 --> 01:04:52.074
[SPEAKER_00]: They realized the finish was coming.

01:04:52.194 --> 01:04:55.577
[SPEAKER_00]: And it wasn't that the crowd was quiet, but fans seemed to like both guys.

01:04:56.077 --> 01:05:00.780
[SPEAKER_00]: So it wasn't a real partisan crowd where you really felt a big chance on either side right here.

01:05:01.641 --> 01:05:10.587
[SPEAKER_00]: Again, to Nick's point from earlier, they headbuddied each other into oblivion, which ended up going into a ref double count, the idea of,

01:05:11.768 --> 01:05:15.315
[SPEAKER_00]: teasing the idea of the double knock out, which they've done.

01:05:15.856 --> 01:05:22.529
[SPEAKER_00]: His selling intensifies things and when kid kind of rolled over and told the referee, no, a wave that crap off don't do it.

01:05:25.087 --> 01:05:27.108
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, and next thing, he missed that line from Walker also.

01:05:27.148 --> 01:05:31.709
[SPEAKER_00]: So maybe it just kind of passed by most people and they didn't have to hear it, that's good.

01:05:32.129 --> 01:05:36.771
[SPEAKER_00]: But they sold the double count out idea, but then a kid waved it off.

01:05:37.451 --> 01:05:38.891
[SPEAKER_00]: Then he hit a gene blast for two.

01:05:39.751 --> 01:05:40.992
[SPEAKER_00]: He went into a Boston crab.

01:05:41.412 --> 01:05:44.613
[SPEAKER_00]: And the Boston crab journey did you pick up what they did with the Boston crab.

01:05:45.253 --> 01:05:56.078
[SPEAKER_00]: that Gabe Kid has done this kind of stuff before, where he sort of reenacts famous moments in his matches, go back and watch this and watch Steve Austin in the Sharp Shooter at WrestleMania 13.

01:05:56.139 --> 01:06:03.122
[SPEAKER_00]: The famous match with Brett Hart, the I quit match, where he had the blood and it was on the, it was in the beginning of RAW forever.

01:06:03.142 --> 01:06:14.408
[SPEAKER_00]: He did the whole thing, he did the whole thing where he looks like he's fading and then he plants one hand down, then he plants the other hand down and he tries to push up out of it,

01:06:15.108 --> 01:06:16.048
[SPEAKER_00]: and he can't quite do it.

01:06:16.648 --> 01:06:19.429
[SPEAKER_00]: And just he just decided to do a Steve Austin right there in the middle.

01:06:19.449 --> 01:06:19.929
[SPEAKER_00]: I enjoyed that.

01:06:19.969 --> 01:06:22.070
[SPEAKER_00]: I was at that show live in Chicago.

01:06:23.670 --> 01:06:25.390
[SPEAKER_00]: Best match I've ever seen in person in my life.

01:06:25.410 --> 01:06:26.370
[SPEAKER_00]: I was going insane.

01:06:26.711 --> 01:06:28.411
[SPEAKER_00]: I was a Brett Hartnut, but I loved him.

01:06:28.611 --> 01:06:29.671
[SPEAKER_00]: I loved Austin too.

01:06:30.131 --> 01:06:33.512
[SPEAKER_00]: So that got me right in the heart there gave I appreciated it.

01:06:34.552 --> 01:06:36.033
[SPEAKER_00]: In the end though, he did collapse.

01:06:36.173 --> 01:06:37.193
[SPEAKER_00]: He did tap out.

01:06:38.073 --> 01:06:42.196
[SPEAKER_00]: And that was it, so she had the new global champion.

01:06:42.256 --> 01:06:50.300
[SPEAKER_00]: So I think that's very significant, Jeremy, and afterwards, they both bowed to one another on the Lion Mark and shook hands.

01:06:52.401 --> 01:07:00.366
[SPEAKER_00]: To me, this was again, the whole idea of tapping out, bowing on the Lion Mark, this is just more in the world of

01:07:02.263 --> 01:07:11.469
[SPEAKER_00]: New Japan kind of preparing themselves just in case because afterwards the war dogs came out and they surrounded gave kid and they look bad for him.

01:07:11.929 --> 01:07:14.331
[SPEAKER_00]: And I just thought, oh, no, I don't I hope they don't do this.

01:07:14.491 --> 01:07:15.011
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, they didn't.

01:07:15.331 --> 01:07:16.412
[SPEAKER_00]: I hope they didn't kick them out.

01:07:16.472 --> 01:07:16.812
[SPEAKER_00]: They didn't.

01:07:17.252 --> 01:07:19.514
[SPEAKER_00]: Hiromu shot into the ring to protect Yota Suji.

01:07:19.874 --> 01:07:21.835
[SPEAKER_00]: Machine going out, not too far behind.

01:07:21.855 --> 01:07:23.556
[SPEAKER_00]: Hiromu's still quick when he needs to be.

01:07:24.037 --> 01:07:26.478
[SPEAKER_00]: And soon both groups were there and they were staring

01:07:30.543 --> 01:07:34.848
[SPEAKER_01]: So after all this family attempt, I hand to Fuji first.

01:07:35.449 --> 01:07:38.672
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and it's, there were hand tricks all around.

01:07:38.712 --> 01:07:40.414
[SPEAKER_00]: Everybody's shaking hands with everybody else.

01:07:41.596 --> 01:07:51.267
[SPEAKER_00]: But to me, this move, the war dogs unaffiliated as an alliance, they did not say that one has joined the other.

01:07:53.133 --> 01:07:59.334
[SPEAKER_00]: And to me, I'm not affiliated anymore, they've always been affiliate and just with each other, right?

01:07:59.354 --> 01:08:09.176
[SPEAKER_00]: The faction that's not a faction, but what I think they're doing here, Jeremy, is preparing themselves for the departures that are probably or they're worried are going to come.

01:08:09.717 --> 01:08:15.718
[SPEAKER_00]: The idea is if there are enough war dogs to have a war dogs anymore, some of these guys might.

01:08:16.885 --> 01:08:25.269
[SPEAKER_00]: team with caucus with so to speak, you know, team up with unaffiliated until whatever long-term storyline they have shakes out.

01:08:25.829 --> 01:08:34.973
[SPEAKER_00]: Something's going to happen with the United Empire, what's left of it, Newman and O'Con and the Kira, you know, those guys are going to fall into place somewhere.

01:08:36.454 --> 01:08:37.214
[SPEAKER_00]: If, if.

01:08:38.567 --> 01:08:55.862
[SPEAKER_00]: family leaves or if Gabe goes with AEW, if Conners goes back to the states, and all that's kind of left are Maloney, Ishimori, and it's not really enough for a faction, they can kind of team up with unaffiliated until something shakes itself out, whatever they have planned long-term.

01:08:56.122 --> 01:09:01.187
[SPEAKER_00]: So I thought this is just a way of protecting themselves and giving these guys a group to kind of

01:09:03.769 --> 01:09:09.358
[SPEAKER_00]: eight man and six man tags that are coming up and just do something different with that.

01:09:09.499 --> 01:09:14.667
[SPEAKER_00]: And if half the guys leave, then you know, they've got a, they've got a spot for them.

01:09:14.807 --> 01:09:17.031
[SPEAKER_00]: And so they can team up with unafiliated.

01:09:18.214 --> 01:09:25.737
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, Suji held up the title to Tana Hashi, who is that commentary on the way out, that match is going to happen at the big homecoming show in Gifu.

01:09:26.357 --> 01:09:33.559
[SPEAKER_00]: And my favorite line from the post match comments was Hiromu Takahashi, who made the two sweet gesture.

01:09:34.419 --> 01:09:34.719
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

01:09:34.739 --> 01:09:45.283
[SPEAKER_00]: You know that when I'm talking about where you take your two, you know, the ring finger in the middle finger, touch it to your thumb, the other two were up in the air and he said I always like this gesture and he looked at his hand and he said, Foxes are cute.

01:09:48.078 --> 01:09:49.099
[SPEAKER_00]: It does kind of look like a fox.

01:09:49.179 --> 01:09:50.340
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a shadow puppet of a fox.

01:09:50.380 --> 01:09:50.961
[SPEAKER_00]: The two sweet things.

01:09:51.542 --> 01:09:52.983
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's just a room of being her own move.

01:09:53.023 --> 01:10:00.150
[SPEAKER_00]: But the other thing, Jeremy, when I saw this, I just thought, please, please, please, universe, grant me.

01:10:00.591 --> 01:10:04.554
[SPEAKER_00]: Her own will talk to Haashi and Taiji, is she morey as a tag so close.

01:10:04.895 --> 01:10:08.178
[SPEAKER_00]: In junior tag league, that's not quite what we got.

01:10:08.238 --> 01:10:08.438
[SPEAKER_00]: Is it?

01:10:08.759 --> 01:10:11.722
[SPEAKER_00]: Her own will says, I want to tag with ghetto.

01:10:13.154 --> 01:10:17.976
[SPEAKER_00]: Runner and scratch, what the good news is Robbie X is coming back.

01:10:17.996 --> 01:10:21.777
[SPEAKER_00]: We'll get to those line up a little bit later, but damn it all bunch of teases.

01:10:24.118 --> 01:10:24.998
[SPEAKER_01]: This match was good.

01:10:25.198 --> 01:10:34.361
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe great, but it was marred for me by the fact that they simply have wrestled each other over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over.

01:10:34.401 --> 01:10:35.001
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like two times.

01:10:35.141 --> 01:10:39.383
[SPEAKER_01]: We talked, we talked about how much they'd wrestling each other in their record, but in the last

01:10:40.984 --> 01:10:50.610
[SPEAKER_01]: Like they had the double count out, they had the global and they have this match and it's just they they didn't have a whole lot of other dance partners this year, so it didn't feel fresh.

01:10:51.070 --> 01:11:00.616
[SPEAKER_01]: And by the time I was over, I desperately wanted bullet club and unaffiliated to no longer be wrestling with each other and boy did I can't

01:11:02.297 --> 01:11:12.286
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm going to get that feeling like if they if all these guys just take off and leave us and that seems to happen every January It seems to New Japan lately that we we hemorrhage foreigners.

01:11:12.687 --> 01:11:23.716
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and at least issue more he has someone that he can team up with he can be an unaffiliated guy until we figure it out And who knows with ghetto and all that you know, but it just felt like okay

01:11:24.457 --> 01:11:35.539
[SPEAKER_00]: In an eight man tag we can put them with these guys and here now we're cushioned and if everybody if if if they don't leave then we can run an angle after that, but let's just protect ourselves in case all the foreigners leave again in January

01:11:36.480 --> 01:11:39.121
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's all just feels so temporary right now.

01:11:39.322 --> 01:11:39.622
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:11:39.842 --> 01:11:40.642
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, everything.

01:11:40.662 --> 01:11:48.186
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just like the war dog that unaffiliated being interfactually linked and an opportunity to create friendship there.

01:11:48.546 --> 01:11:58.832
[SPEAKER_01]: You have a giant group of hauntie and house torture if they're trying to formally accept the call and then you have TNPK, United Empire, like kind of out there in the fray.

01:11:59.392 --> 01:12:15.495
[SPEAKER_01]: this can't last forever and I wouldn't be surprised by next year we have a bunch of new factions and everything is kind of like we're up to like eight different factions again down from like the four or five that we really have right now because this is understandable the way the way that it is.

01:12:16.275 --> 01:12:27.606
[SPEAKER_01]: and more to the point with Yoda Fuji, if you look at it with this unaffiliated and the word hogs, Fuji B, Finley, Fuji B, Gabe Kid.

01:12:28.007 --> 01:12:33.252
[SPEAKER_01]: He's basically had you guys whether they like you want to call it a handshake, they bent the knee.

01:12:34.080 --> 01:12:34.620
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?

01:12:34.660 --> 01:12:39.042
[SPEAKER_01]: Like he's the top guy among all of this entire group.

01:12:39.502 --> 01:12:53.008
[SPEAKER_01]: And if you're trying to like win or down who the top guys are, the promotion that could be faking to Keshe, the global champion, who Jeff had the entirety of the war dogs, come and just say, we align with you.

01:12:53.028 --> 01:12:55.949
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know how you don't come to the conclusion.

01:12:56.409 --> 01:12:58.390
[SPEAKER_01]: Fuji is a major player

01:12:59.876 --> 01:13:04.879
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, the destruction in Kobe, we mentioned it that David Finlay hit him with every move and couldn't beat him.

01:13:05.399 --> 01:13:05.579
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

01:13:06.580 --> 01:13:07.580
[SPEAKER_00]: Same thing here with gay kid.

01:13:07.660 --> 01:13:10.102
[SPEAKER_00]: Gay kid hit all of his big moves on sushi couldn't beat him.

01:13:10.862 --> 01:13:13.484
[SPEAKER_00]: And that that's just been the recurring theme to all this.

01:13:13.524 --> 01:13:16.345
[SPEAKER_00]: He has overcome, he has overcome the war dogs.

01:13:16.846 --> 01:13:26.431
[SPEAKER_00]: And the other side of that is, if this is the guy, if Yoda's sushi is going to be like the main event guy, we need new factions and we need a shake up.

01:13:29.848 --> 01:13:42.294
[SPEAKER_00]: And so that's something that they can do, and maybe not before a Wrestle Kingdom or something, but I do think that O'Con and Newman are going to have something to do with all it don't forget, and all right, it's going to come back.

01:13:42.854 --> 01:13:44.775
[SPEAKER_00]: So those guys could.

01:13:46.868 --> 01:13:53.932
[SPEAKER_00]: In some ways, split, go off in different alliances and we could find new factions was spreading out what's left if you united empire.

01:13:54.572 --> 01:13:59.375
[SPEAKER_00]: Shango Takagi and Hinarai would make a nice little combo toward the top of a faction over there.

01:13:59.975 --> 01:14:07.399
[SPEAKER_00]: There's just, there are a lot of choices there, but I don't see Shango and Suji staying together long term.

01:14:07.639 --> 01:14:09.260
[SPEAKER_00]: It just doesn't seem to make sense.

01:14:09.320 --> 01:14:10.481
[SPEAKER_00]: That's two number once.

01:14:11.489 --> 01:14:15.574
[SPEAKER_00]: and not so much, and so let's see what else we have.

01:14:15.614 --> 01:14:21.821
[SPEAKER_00]: Nick says that all three matches in this trilogy of delivered, but I have to say each match and book review have felt less important every time.

01:14:21.881 --> 01:14:25.344
[SPEAKER_01]: So I guess how I thought about it too, it would commit to return to every time.

01:14:26.480 --> 01:14:28.940
[SPEAKER_00]: And Tyler says Tyler Mirrens here.

01:14:29.241 --> 01:14:30.101
[SPEAKER_00]: He says, what's up, guys?

01:14:30.121 --> 01:14:30.601
[SPEAKER_00]: Hi, Tyler.

01:14:30.901 --> 01:14:31.441
[SPEAKER_00]: Thanks for coming.

01:14:32.401 --> 01:14:34.822
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm so confused by the War Dogs happy hug party.

01:14:35.802 --> 01:14:48.404
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, again, I do think that a lot of this is simply a storyline of the War Dogs putting over Yoda's Sushi with the idea that maybe there won't be as many War Dogs in New Japan come February.

01:14:49.484 --> 01:14:50.705
[SPEAKER_00]: Just you got to protect yourself.

01:14:50.745 --> 01:14:52.565
[SPEAKER_00]: They got to protect yourself from that.

01:14:53.613 --> 01:14:58.556
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, we've talked about the fallout and we've talked about the run up, but we haven't talked about the match.

01:14:59.156 --> 01:15:01.097
[SPEAKER_00]: Me main event, Zack Saber Jr.

01:15:01.117 --> 01:15:05.459
[SPEAKER_00]: and Kenosuke to Keshta, for the IWGP World Heavyweight title.

01:15:06.220 --> 01:15:16.245
[SPEAKER_00]: This had a classic main event feel to me, Jeremy, when the way they came out, the way they stood facing each other in the opposite corners, it just felt like a main event, World title match to me.

01:15:16.285 --> 01:15:19.026
[SPEAKER_00]: And I really enjoyed how they worked this match.

01:15:19.306 --> 01:15:20.127
[SPEAKER_00]: It was never dull.

01:15:20.667 --> 01:15:21.727
[SPEAKER_00]: but they also didn't hurry.

01:15:22.208 --> 01:15:27.210
[SPEAKER_00]: They had that balance perfectly, perfectly well worked out.

01:15:27.270 --> 01:15:30.351
[SPEAKER_00]: They kept things moving, but they didn't sprint.

01:15:31.251 --> 01:15:33.732
[SPEAKER_00]: It looked like two men who understood the stakes.

01:15:34.073 --> 01:15:37.214
[SPEAKER_00]: They didn't want to make a big mistake, but they wanted to remain aggressive.

01:15:37.514 --> 01:15:42.076
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's a very realistic approach for two men who are in a world title match.

01:15:42.496 --> 01:15:45.957
[SPEAKER_00]: I thought it made sense for the moment, and I thought they worked that very, very well.

01:15:46.697 --> 01:16:00.001
[SPEAKER_00]: So as things went on, Takeshita went for a power drive that was turned into an absolutely electric series of submissions that kind of got the crowd thinking, oh, maybe he is going to win it right here, it means that, but Takeshita survived it barely.

01:16:01.287 --> 01:16:07.611
[SPEAKER_00]: smart stiff is what I wrote in underlined it, meaning European uppercuts that hit the chest but hard.

01:16:08.952 --> 01:16:12.033
[SPEAKER_00]: Some of it's a catch-to-stuff was snug but not dangerous.

01:16:12.634 --> 01:16:15.896
[SPEAKER_00]: And I thought that was a well handled by both guys.

01:16:16.836 --> 01:16:18.677
[SPEAKER_00]: Zack did hit an avalanche power bomb.

01:16:18.777 --> 01:16:22.459
[SPEAKER_00]: You don't see Zack say Virginia doing avalanche power bombs all that often, but he pulled that out.

01:16:23.160 --> 01:16:24.300
[SPEAKER_00]: Really nice sequence

01:16:27.465 --> 01:16:30.608
[SPEAKER_00]: And as you tried to follow up, it was countered into a raging fire.

01:16:31.488 --> 01:16:33.990
[SPEAKER_00]: At this point, the crowd really coming up.

01:16:34.050 --> 01:16:39.535
[SPEAKER_00]: This thing went 31 minutes, 16 seconds, and felt a lot shorter because it just moved so smoothly.

01:16:40.295 --> 01:16:42.777
[SPEAKER_00]: The strikes and the impact moves began to really connect.

01:16:42.817 --> 01:16:44.539
[SPEAKER_00]: The German Suplexes started piling up.

01:16:45.829 --> 01:16:49.332
[SPEAKER_00]: Finally, power drive landed clean, and it was a pinfall.

01:16:49.652 --> 01:16:51.613
[SPEAKER_00]: Can I also get to Keshta, Wins the G1?

01:16:52.154 --> 01:16:54.795
[SPEAKER_00]: Parlaze it into the IWGP World Heavyweight title.

01:16:55.476 --> 01:17:03.522
[SPEAKER_00]: And for two people who are as good in the ring at working as XXA, Virginia, and to Keshta, I thought this is a wonderful match.

01:17:04.202 --> 01:17:09.226
[SPEAKER_00]: And we can argue about whether a guy that's not exclusive New Japan should hold the title.

01:17:11.498 --> 01:17:24.457
[SPEAKER_00]: that the talent level on these two men really put on a terrific main event in Simo Hall and I think anybody that was at that show, even if they have reservations about Takeshita as champion walked out say we got a hell of a good main event match.

01:17:27.557 --> 01:17:28.898
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm really worried.

01:17:28.958 --> 01:17:30.698
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna get a ton of crap for that.

01:17:31.019 --> 01:17:32.619
[SPEAKER_01]: I watched this match twice.

01:17:33.320 --> 01:17:34.400
[SPEAKER_01]: I couldn't get into it.

01:17:34.940 --> 01:17:35.881
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my gosh, okay.

01:17:36.461 --> 01:17:39.262
[SPEAKER_01]: But I don't, and I think it could mean thing.

01:17:39.742 --> 01:17:42.444
[SPEAKER_01]: Like I don't, I don't think the match was bad.

01:17:43.044 --> 01:17:49.787
[SPEAKER_01]: I just, there was a tone and a pacing and a structure to it that just didn't work for me.

01:17:49.927 --> 01:17:55.549
[SPEAKER_01]: Like I was watching it and I could never think with the beat of the way that they were doing the match

01:17:57.580 --> 01:18:04.083
[SPEAKER_01]: like the power drive me to the pinfall caught me off guard because I was expecting the raging fire.

01:18:05.344 --> 01:18:10.306
[SPEAKER_01]: So there were a number of things going at that was just like there's nothing wrong with this match.

01:18:10.846 --> 01:18:15.868
[SPEAKER_01]: As a matter of fact, a lot of people who's opinion, I respect really like this match.

01:18:17.109 --> 01:18:17.229
[SPEAKER_01]: Like

01:18:20.035 --> 01:18:42.340
[SPEAKER_01]: it was good not great to me like it was a 4.5 not a 5 you know and and so like I expect a lot of people to give it higher scores is like one of those matches of the year maybe I have to watch it I don't know but there were other matches that did it far more for me on this show and I was really surprised but I also

01:18:43.788 --> 01:19:04.138
[SPEAKER_01]: I freely admit, I felt like it was a foregone conclusion that Takeshida was going to win this match, and I was just like, get it done, and then they got it done, and it felt more mechanical and like what was spoke to happen, then me feeling like I saw something special, and that's the part of it.

01:19:05.257 --> 01:19:20.050
[SPEAKER_01]: that is, I'm saying, this is on me, because of the way that I kind of went into this match and went into this show, like the four-gone conclusion, like that temperature here is not going in a restful kingdom of the champion, like, these are all these things.

01:19:20.390 --> 01:19:21.231
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's get to the match.

01:19:21.351 --> 01:19:29.018
[SPEAKER_01]: And when I got to the match, it was like, all right, let's see if I, what, I wasn't able to enjoy the match the way that I thought I was going to.

01:19:29.799 --> 01:19:30.059
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

01:19:30.500 --> 01:19:34.023
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I'm not, I'm not trying to pile on, but I do want to read a couple of comments here.

01:19:34.584 --> 01:19:36.606
[SPEAKER_00]: And Tyler wrote that he loved the main event.

01:19:36.746 --> 01:19:41.591
[SPEAKER_00]: I know to catch the isn't the fan favorite, but I think AEW did a good point of teasing O'Cotta to catch them.

01:19:42.952 --> 01:19:46.155
[SPEAKER_00]: And then Nick says, this is easily my favorite Zach to catch the match so far.

01:19:46.235 --> 01:19:48.417
[SPEAKER_00]: Both of G1 matches felt like they were holding back.

01:19:48.777 --> 01:19:50.799
[SPEAKER_00]: And we finally saw what they were holding back for.

01:19:51.720 --> 01:20:06.185
[SPEAKER_00]: uh... for nanosize says to catch the winning was the right decision why shouldn't the g one winner when the world championship uh... Tyler says Jeremy i wasn't in this match me booth this man who shame upon your house uh... no of course i think

01:20:07.165 --> 01:20:18.056
[SPEAKER_01]: I get it, you know, like we've all been circling this match and like, I can't wait for when like they just kicked the wheels off and let them go nuts with each other on the match.

01:20:18.777 --> 01:20:24.103
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm not saying that you should listen to my opinion and then watch this match that take it wasn't good.

01:20:24.563 --> 01:20:29.668
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm saying that for me, I just, I had an issue with it and me,

01:20:30.860 --> 01:20:39.557
[SPEAKER_01]: Coming back here and telling you guys that if me just being honest with you, rather than trying to convince you that like, I'm right, you're wrong.

01:20:40.223 --> 01:20:45.566
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and there have been plenty of matches that the consensus of people thought it was fantastic.

01:20:45.606 --> 01:20:49.448
[SPEAKER_00]: And I was just like, I mean, one bad or anything, but I didn't get that out of it.

01:20:49.468 --> 01:20:50.649
[SPEAKER_00]: And that sometimes that happens.

01:20:50.909 --> 01:20:52.390
[SPEAKER_00]: And there can be a lot of reasons for that.

01:20:52.470 --> 01:20:54.691
[SPEAKER_01]: And this people thought this was a blow away show.

01:20:54.751 --> 01:20:55.771
[SPEAKER_01]: And I thought it was good.

01:20:56.132 --> 01:20:57.713
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, like, it was a really good show.

01:20:57.813 --> 01:21:00.994
[SPEAKER_01]: But we didn't get the clear line for rest of the kingdom that we thought.

01:21:01.375 --> 01:21:07.978
[SPEAKER_01]: There were clearly a couple of stinkers on the show that were looking past in order to call it really good.

01:21:08.298 --> 01:21:09.339
[SPEAKER_01]: I just thought it was a good show.

01:21:10.363 --> 01:21:12.352
[SPEAKER_01]: It check the boxes off of what they needed to do.

01:21:13.650 --> 01:21:15.512
[SPEAKER_00]: I suppose the the last three matches for me.

01:21:15.572 --> 01:21:16.572
[SPEAKER_00]: I thought we're all excellent.

01:21:16.592 --> 01:21:19.975
[SPEAKER_00]: The tag team title match, the global title match, the world title match and the open.

01:21:19.995 --> 01:21:27.459
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and well, yeah, yeah, the women's title match for sure, but to me, just ending with bang, bang, bang, one, two, three, great, great, great.

01:21:28.020 --> 01:21:30.602
[SPEAKER_00]: Just you just leave the show just thinking that was fantastic.

01:21:31.022 --> 01:21:32.683
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, that's the reason.

01:21:32.703 --> 01:21:38.107
[SPEAKER_01]: And that color card is the kind, is that like the last opinion that you have are the ones that are the strongest.

01:21:38.867 --> 01:21:41.309
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's that kind of what's happening with me too.

01:21:42.815 --> 01:21:53.061
[SPEAKER_00]: Nick mentioned, if Succi to Keshta was always the plan of wrestling to match, I feel like so much headache could have been avoided with Succi winning the G1 and to Keshta getting this title match from a block play when over Zack.

01:21:53.101 --> 01:21:58.544
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I predicted that Succi was gonna win the G1.

01:21:58.584 --> 01:22:04.948
[SPEAKER_00]: So I understand, Nick, I kind of agree, I thought Succi was gonna win the G1 myself.

01:22:05.028 --> 01:22:07.430
[SPEAKER_00]: So I thought that that would be it, but yeah.

01:22:08.090 --> 01:22:09.491
[SPEAKER_01]: This to me is all predicated.

01:22:10.370 --> 01:22:16.615
[SPEAKER_01]: on the idea that Suji wins that double dash match against Takeshina at the AWG at the rest of Kingdom.

01:22:16.975 --> 01:22:18.596
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not necessarily sure that's the case.

01:22:18.957 --> 01:22:34.969
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think that there is a lot of support for Takeshina behind the scenes and with people who make very important decisions that they are confident and wanting to run with this guy and all the others are the runners-up

01:22:40.423 --> 01:22:41.945
[SPEAKER_00]: Maria Gracie, LSI, is this here?

01:22:42.005 --> 01:22:43.727
[SPEAKER_00]: What do you do?

01:22:43.747 --> 01:22:46.169
[SPEAKER_00]: And I still consider Zack Sameer the best wrestler in the world.

01:22:46.349 --> 01:22:47.631
[SPEAKER_00]: Mike, I don't think you're alone.

01:22:47.951 --> 01:22:49.012
[SPEAKER_00]: I do not think you're alone.

01:22:49.573 --> 01:22:50.353
[SPEAKER_00]: Zack's fantastic.

01:22:50.473 --> 01:22:51.134
[SPEAKER_00]: Zack's absolutely fantastic.

01:22:51.174 --> 01:22:52.355
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, because you don't have a title.

01:22:52.435 --> 01:22:55.599
[SPEAKER_01]: Does it make you the best wrestler in the world, particularly the best wrestler of that promotion?

01:22:57.000 --> 01:23:03.387
[SPEAKER_00]: And then afterwards, of course, to catch a kind of heal promo, basically saying, you know, you don't, I know you don't like that.

01:23:03.427 --> 01:23:03.688
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm here.

01:23:03.728 --> 01:23:04.208
[SPEAKER_00]: Don't be mad.

01:23:04.288 --> 01:23:05.369
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm not here all the time.

01:23:06.330 --> 01:23:12.237
[SPEAKER_00]: There are, there are, there are other worlds to conquer, but this one, and I'm going to conquer all of them.

01:23:12.257 --> 01:23:14.640
[SPEAKER_00]: And you basically dared someone to come out and do something about it.

01:23:15.340 --> 01:23:15.441
[SPEAKER_00]: And

01:23:15.901 --> 01:23:30.170
[SPEAKER_00]: Hero Kigoto was there to answer the call for New Japan who else but our hero and he came out to challenge and it will indeed take place at the geifu show to catch the set he did not want to go into the dome without having defended the title at least once.

01:23:30.770 --> 01:23:33.572
[SPEAKER_00]: So there you go, we're going to get to Hero Kigoto and

01:23:34.132 --> 01:23:39.155
[SPEAKER_00]: Kenosuke Takeshta and Geefu, we will also get Yoda Suji versus Hiroshi Tanahashi.

01:23:39.455 --> 01:23:41.536
[SPEAKER_00]: That's the next major major event.

01:23:42.137 --> 01:23:47.340
[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, I mentioned it earlier at Fantasma and Tanahashi.

01:23:47.360 --> 01:23:53.723
[SPEAKER_00]: You're going to team in World Tagly, evil versus Wolf at WrestleMania, WrestleMania, WrestleMania, Kingdom 20.

01:23:54.304 --> 01:23:58.526
[SPEAKER_00]: So we did get a little bit of information about upcoming things.

01:23:59.767 --> 01:24:00.887
[SPEAKER_01]: Ben, Jeremy, coming to Steven.

01:24:01.268 --> 01:24:01.828
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's there.

01:24:02.942 --> 01:24:03.602
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what he got this.

01:24:03.622 --> 01:24:04.583
[SPEAKER_00]: No, what is that?

01:24:04.603 --> 01:24:06.104
[SPEAKER_00]: This is going to adapt her for Japan.

01:24:06.124 --> 01:24:17.452
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, it doesn't have a grounding, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh uh, uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh

01:24:18.705 --> 01:24:28.131
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, you were so freaking lucky because when I went last year, you were so freaking lucky that the Tokyo Dome Hotel was absolutely untouchable during wrestling in weekend.

01:24:28.171 --> 01:24:28.931
[SPEAKER_00]: Could not get a room.

01:24:29.652 --> 01:24:32.613
[SPEAKER_00]: And now I was very happy to stay where I stayed, by the way.

01:24:33.314 --> 01:24:35.775
[SPEAKER_00]: The Tokyo stay hotel was terrific.

01:24:35.895 --> 01:24:37.536
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, so no notes loved it.

01:24:38.057 --> 01:24:40.458
[SPEAKER_00]: But the original plan was to stay in the Dome Hotel.

01:24:40.518 --> 01:24:41.899
[SPEAKER_00]: You were you're gonna roll right up to it.

01:24:42.179 --> 01:24:45.161
[SPEAKER_00]: All you have to do is get an elevator and you're basically outside

01:24:48.923 --> 01:24:58.510
[SPEAKER_01]: I took, I got recommendations from a number of people and for whatever reason, like the recommendation you gave me, like the 30th and the 31st were unavailable.

01:24:58.630 --> 01:25:01.231
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not switching places here.

01:25:01.251 --> 01:25:01.592
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:25:01.812 --> 01:25:02.172
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:25:02.292 --> 01:25:02.692
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:25:02.712 --> 01:25:05.474
[SPEAKER_01]: And I ended up just like, well, let's see what the Tokyo

01:25:18.045 --> 01:25:29.148
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I told you ended up being like 170 but after fees or maybe $100 more a night because the way that they do fee the services and all that is a little bit different.

01:25:29.308 --> 01:25:30.268
[SPEAKER_01]: And so ended up being there.

01:25:30.748 --> 01:25:32.429
[SPEAKER_01]: But I made a mistake even.

01:25:33.629 --> 01:25:44.612
[SPEAKER_01]: I booked the a non-refundable, non-cancelable stay but I booked it for the day I fly out not the day I arrive.

01:25:46.885 --> 01:26:04.065
[SPEAKER_01]: I ended up having to re-book my flight to leave a day earlier, so I actually got out because the other one had to be out of a hotel room, out of the fee, out of everything, and I was like, why mind if we'll just go a day earlier to Japan, you can sleep in one of those capsule hotels in the week, you know, put you in a tube.

01:26:04.705 --> 01:26:09.409
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, I ended up, you know, I end up leaving a day earlier for Japan.

01:26:09.449 --> 01:26:21.480
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm now going to be there for a full week and I will not be rushing to figure out my New Year's Eve plan that will get there on the 30th and potentially go to even more wrestling shows in Japan.

01:26:22.248 --> 01:26:25.251
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and there's going to be some good stuff going on around that time, of course.

01:26:25.311 --> 01:26:30.576
[SPEAKER_00]: So all the other companies with the things going on, hopefully I can podcast from there.

01:26:31.016 --> 01:26:37.943
[SPEAKER_01]: And we can do a show because I have I have the tech now to have the technology I can.

01:26:40.165 --> 01:26:42.427
[SPEAKER_00]: So we have that, and we'll be looking forward to that.

01:26:42.447 --> 01:26:46.510
[SPEAKER_00]: Hopefully Jeremy will be able to correspond with us from Tokyo.

01:26:46.750 --> 01:26:49.092
[SPEAKER_00]: And I did it the other way last year.

01:26:49.192 --> 01:26:51.374
[SPEAKER_00]: Managed to make it work on my phone a little bit.

01:26:51.474 --> 01:26:53.076
[SPEAKER_00]: But we'll say so.

01:26:53.516 --> 01:26:56.719
[SPEAKER_00]: By the time we come back next week, so we've got a couple of things coming up.

01:26:57.860 --> 01:27:01.462
[SPEAKER_00]: We have October 19th, New Japan is going to be an Ishikari.

01:27:01.503 --> 01:27:03.724
[SPEAKER_00]: This will be on NJPW World.

01:27:03.784 --> 01:27:05.286
[SPEAKER_00]: This is Taiji's middle school.

01:27:06.148 --> 01:27:23.262
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, this is where our, our emperor went to middle school and this is an interesting little show here, uh, new Japan road in Ishikari, it has a lot of just tap out guys because of course, Taiichi and Takamichi Noku are, uh, our buddies and they are also in the main event together.

01:27:24.324 --> 01:27:31.567
[SPEAKER_00]: The main event of this one, talking to Michinoko Yuyi Uimura and Taichi, facing Kanamaru, Doki, and Sonata from House of Torture.

01:27:32.267 --> 01:27:42.711
[SPEAKER_00]: And again, like I mentioned, this is Taichi's middle school gym, but a lot of JTO people on it, including Jeremy, a just tap out girls tag team championship.

01:27:42.751 --> 01:27:44.752
[SPEAKER_00]: Now they have a women's title, and they have a girls title.

01:27:45.292 --> 01:27:45.393
[SPEAKER_00]: And

01:27:46.853 --> 01:27:56.507
[SPEAKER_00]: It's, I guess it has to do with, I guess I think it's like an under 23 title or something like that where that type of thing, but on this is a women's tag team match.

01:27:56.627 --> 01:28:02.135
[SPEAKER_00]: It is a wrestler named rhythm, teaming with Tomoko and Abba from startup.

01:28:03.460 --> 01:28:10.504
[SPEAKER_00]: against Azusa and Abba, to Moca sister, she's teaming with Aoi, another JTO wrestler.

01:28:10.544 --> 01:28:20.409
[SPEAKER_00]: So, the and Abba sisters are also with JTO and the just tap outdoor organization, but they are on opposite sides of a tag team championship match.

01:28:20.789 --> 01:28:27.032
[SPEAKER_00]: There are other JTO talents on this one, Rihoma, Sikamoto, bomber bomber Tatsuya,

01:28:28.424 --> 01:28:29.746
[SPEAKER_00]: He bought him so much.

01:28:29.806 --> 01:28:30.628
[SPEAKER_00]: You have to name him twice.

01:28:30.688 --> 01:28:33.133
[SPEAKER_00]: Bobmer Bomber Tattooia and Thunder Masami.

01:28:33.193 --> 01:28:34.676
[SPEAKER_00]: So we got a bomb and a thunder out there.

01:28:35.458 --> 01:28:36.941
[SPEAKER_00]: And then a jewel bird.

01:28:37.727 --> 01:28:43.131
[SPEAKER_00]: Jewelbird is, which sounds like a singer song writer within acoustic guitar, Jewelbird.

01:28:43.911 --> 01:28:47.673
[SPEAKER_00]: But that's against, must story, Yatsada in the opening match.

01:28:48.354 --> 01:28:50.015
[SPEAKER_00]: And then the, you know what I you said.

01:28:50.375 --> 01:28:58.660
[SPEAKER_00]: Interesting tag team match there toward the top of the card, the Eldest Barado and Hiroshi Tanahashi, teaming together to face Dick Togo and Eville.

01:28:58.681 --> 01:28:59.461
[SPEAKER_00]: That'll be the 19th.

01:29:00.021 --> 01:29:02.943
[SPEAKER_00]: It's going to be on NJPW World.

01:29:03.323 --> 01:29:03.444
[SPEAKER_00]: And,

01:29:04.184 --> 01:29:08.828
[SPEAKER_01]: It's on a Hoshy Desk Barato tag team at the thing I'm most interested in on that card.

01:29:09.629 --> 01:29:12.411
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, Colin's asking me, have I watched any of the London sumo tournament?

01:29:12.452 --> 01:29:13.913
[SPEAKER_00]: I haven't found where I can.

01:29:13.933 --> 01:29:17.336
[SPEAKER_00]: I haven't found, it's not, I haven't looked on the NHK website.

01:29:17.356 --> 01:29:19.858
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think they're covering it like they do the other ones.

01:29:19.938 --> 01:29:20.979
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe they are.

01:29:20.999 --> 01:29:21.540
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll have to look.

01:29:21.600 --> 01:29:24.903
[SPEAKER_00]: I haven't seen any of it yet, but I've heard that it's been pretty interesting.

01:29:25.143 --> 01:29:26.184
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

01:29:26.664 --> 01:29:30.508
[SPEAKER_01]: Full preview next week, but quick rundown of the Super Junior Tag League lineup.

01:29:31.887 --> 01:29:36.010
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, so we got the line ups for super junior tag league.

01:29:36.050 --> 01:29:37.611
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's bring that up Jeremy.

01:29:37.671 --> 01:29:42.674
[SPEAKER_00]: So we have and then we have another another graphic here that shows the blocks.

01:29:43.395 --> 01:29:44.896
[SPEAKER_00]: If you could bring that up for me and appreciate it.

01:29:45.943 --> 01:29:46.603
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, there we go.

01:29:46.983 --> 01:29:47.744
[SPEAKER_00]: So here are the teams.

01:29:47.984 --> 01:29:49.044
[SPEAKER_00]: We have an A block.

01:29:49.504 --> 01:29:51.085
[SPEAKER_00]: This is last year.

01:29:51.105 --> 01:29:52.485
[SPEAKER_00]: There were 12 teams in the tournament.

01:29:52.525 --> 01:29:53.346
[SPEAKER_00]: Two blocks of six.

01:29:54.086 --> 01:29:56.647
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's what we get this year as well.

01:29:57.007 --> 01:29:59.708
[SPEAKER_00]: And sometimes it's been a single elimination tournament.

01:29:59.728 --> 01:30:02.889
[SPEAKER_00]: But this one is block play with 12 teams.

01:30:02.909 --> 01:30:03.569
[SPEAKER_00]: So A block.

01:30:03.670 --> 01:30:09.972
[SPEAKER_00]: We have the returning team of Reeves skate to Gucci and Dragon Dia and yo and master Watto.

01:30:11.284 --> 01:30:13.567
[SPEAKER_00]: And then we have Harrow, we'll talk about how she's teaming with Ghetto.

01:30:13.627 --> 01:30:15.029
[SPEAKER_00]: Got only knows where to go, why not?

01:30:15.930 --> 01:30:18.193
[SPEAKER_00]: Clark counters and Dike in the guy.

01:30:18.793 --> 01:30:23.099
[SPEAKER_00]: So there's your cross thing there with Harrow and Ghetto, counters in the guy.

01:30:23.139 --> 01:30:26.743
[SPEAKER_00]: So there's your reward dog slash unafiliated team.

01:30:27.304 --> 01:30:28.044
[SPEAKER_00]: Tempelario.

01:30:28.605 --> 01:30:31.026
[SPEAKER_00]: coming over to team with Jacob Austin Young.

01:30:31.266 --> 01:30:36.968
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's your United Empire-ish representation and then Dokey and Show.

01:30:37.069 --> 01:30:44.311
[SPEAKER_00]: So to me, Jeremy, this feels like a two-team block with the House of Torture Team, a Dokey and Show, and then Yo and Wato.

01:30:45.752 --> 01:30:49.314
[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like Dragon Dian Tagushi will probably do okay.

01:30:49.494 --> 01:30:52.835
[SPEAKER_00]: They've treated Dia a little bit better this year, like with Super Junior's, where

01:30:58.043 --> 01:31:07.325
[SPEAKER_00]: They could have ghetto and herelmo go on kind of a humorous Cinderella run together if they wanted to, but to me, this feels like dokey and show versus water and yo.

01:31:08.545 --> 01:31:16.227
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think I'm I think you're right on that, and if it were me, I'd probably have water and yo go forward.

01:31:16.247 --> 01:31:24.749
[SPEAKER_00]: It what is the final match, what do the final, it's it's yo and water against dokey and show on the final day.

01:31:25.298 --> 01:31:26.639
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, you don't say it.

01:31:26.699 --> 01:31:39.044
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I would have Yo and Master Wato go forward and then maybe like set up a title match for them, even though they have not winning it kind of thing down the line.

01:31:39.945 --> 01:31:41.966
[SPEAKER_01]: That feels like the play on the A-Block.

01:31:42.786 --> 01:31:48.528
[SPEAKER_00]: Similar situation in the B-Block, again, feels like a two team block, but we have,

01:31:50.173 --> 01:31:54.317
[SPEAKER_00]: We have Eldest Brotto and Kukai, so we'll get to see them in action.

01:31:54.677 --> 01:31:56.098
[SPEAKER_00]: Tiger mask and Yamato.

01:31:57.059 --> 01:31:58.060
[SPEAKER_00]: So he'll be back.

01:31:58.661 --> 01:32:03.845
[SPEAKER_00]: So some dragon gate guys in there, Kushita and Yuki Yoshiyoka haven't seen him before.

01:32:03.945 --> 01:32:04.486
[SPEAKER_00]: That'll be cool.

01:32:05.727 --> 01:32:08.069
[SPEAKER_00]: And then we'll have Robbie Eagles and Jose Fujita.

01:32:09.510 --> 01:32:12.593
[SPEAKER_00]: Taisi Ishimori and Robbie X. That's an excellent team.

01:32:12.713 --> 01:32:13.794
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm happy that Robbie's back.

01:32:14.254 --> 01:32:14.475
[SPEAKER_00]: And then

01:32:17.079 --> 01:32:22.924
[SPEAKER_00]: What jumps out of me to me here is that Eagles and Fujida are facing Ishimori and X on the final day.

01:32:23.664 --> 01:32:33.272
[SPEAKER_00]: Kind of Maro and Togo are facing Tiger Mask and Yamato and then Koshita and Yoshiyoka are facing Desperado and Kukai on the last day.

01:32:33.372 --> 01:32:44.741
[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, it's one of those where it kind of feels like this is kind of coming down to Eagles and Fujida, the returning champions and Ishimori and X being heavily involved all the way to the end.

01:32:45.513 --> 01:32:49.801
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we'll make this interesting is that it's not a keel and faith situation for that last night.

01:32:49.881 --> 01:32:51.264
[SPEAKER_01]: It's now baby, baby, baby, baby, baby.

01:32:52.526 --> 01:32:54.129
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, no, no, no, you're right.

01:32:54.169 --> 01:32:54.630
[SPEAKER_00]: That is true.

01:32:55.341 --> 01:33:05.365
[SPEAKER_01]: So, no matter what, even if you're like think Robbie Gilles and Kosey, Vujna could be the guy I have to challenge Tokyo and show or Taiji Schumeria Robbie Eps.

01:33:05.925 --> 01:33:10.347
[SPEAKER_01]: You can't just delineate good and bad because of the way that that's all set up.

01:33:10.427 --> 01:33:20.372
[SPEAKER_01]: But the other teams, there's a weak link, you know, a really experienced guy and then there's a weak link guy on each team, Kukai is still young, Yamato,

01:33:24.413 --> 01:33:29.898
[SPEAKER_01]: on all the team, just kind of feels like there is an out for them not to be booked as strong as they could.

01:33:31.159 --> 01:33:32.980
[SPEAKER_00]: No, yeah, I think that's exactly right.

01:33:33.020 --> 01:33:37.743
[SPEAKER_00]: And there's there's someone there who can do the job and those situations there if they needed some.

01:33:38.444 --> 01:33:42.307
[SPEAKER_00]: And Colin hooked me up with a way I might be able to watch that London Civil Tournament.

01:33:42.327 --> 01:33:42.927
[SPEAKER_00]: So thank you, Colin.

01:33:42.947 --> 01:33:43.768
[SPEAKER_00]: I appreciate that.

01:33:43.828 --> 01:33:44.729
[SPEAKER_00]: Might be able to check that out.

01:33:45.189 --> 01:33:45.809
[SPEAKER_00]: I would have joined you.

01:33:47.394 --> 01:33:50.656
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, you know, it's a, I kind of hooked on Sumo, man.

01:33:50.696 --> 01:33:51.736
[SPEAKER_00]: It's been so much fun to watch.

01:33:52.317 --> 01:33:54.898
[SPEAKER_00]: I also got a little bit of news very quickly.

01:33:54.938 --> 01:33:56.839
[SPEAKER_00]: This is the news notes thing, but who knows?

01:33:56.879 --> 01:33:57.599
[SPEAKER_00]: These are some names.

01:33:57.659 --> 01:33:59.020
[SPEAKER_00]: Might want to keep an eye on here.

01:33:59.940 --> 01:34:08.005
[SPEAKER_00]: The trio of Sean Devon, Trent Hooper, and Sean Tohai, or Tohi, I'm not sure how it's pronounced.

01:34:08.725 --> 01:34:11.947
[SPEAKER_00]: Those folks have been invited to go to the Nogate Dojo.

01:34:12.807 --> 01:34:14.568
[SPEAKER_00]: from the New Zealand dojo.

01:34:14.648 --> 01:34:23.013
[SPEAKER_00]: So from the Tamashi Falei side, they've been invited to move to Tokyo and go a bunk up in the no-gay dojo.

01:34:23.693 --> 01:34:25.034
[SPEAKER_00]: They've been upgraded slightly.

01:34:26.215 --> 01:34:29.357
[SPEAKER_00]: A couple of things that we can in a tea leaves from this.

01:34:30.158 --> 01:34:37.022
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, first that might mean that some people clearing out of there, because everything we've heard is that it's packed in the NOK Tokyo.

01:34:37.302 --> 01:34:38.802
[SPEAKER_00]: And now three more guys are coming in.

01:34:38.863 --> 01:34:54.671
[SPEAKER_00]: So is this the time when I think a, the guy might get the food to treatment, just not go on excursion or something like that, but maybe show Makato, Marashima, not too terribly far away from going off to, to it for on excursion.

01:34:55.551 --> 01:34:59.033
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, if they're going to and one of them might just go to Noah who knows.

01:34:59.073 --> 01:35:01.454
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that worked out really well with the way what maybe they'll do it again.

01:35:01.794 --> 01:35:04.935
[SPEAKER_00]: Marashim, I might not be a bad move for pro wrestling Noah by the way.

01:35:06.136 --> 01:35:10.458
[SPEAKER_00]: Cotto is already said he wants to go to CMLL, so maybe that maybe that'll indeed come true.

01:35:11.438 --> 01:35:17.020
[SPEAKER_00]: And so it's getting on time for them to make a call on Marashim and Cotto specifically anyway.

01:35:18.181 --> 01:35:20.182
[SPEAKER_00]: And and significant just because

01:35:20.922 --> 01:35:24.864
[SPEAKER_00]: The most exciting guys in the whole company right now that we're all happy about the knockout brothers.

01:35:25.465 --> 01:35:26.505
[SPEAKER_00]: This was the path they followed.

01:35:26.625 --> 01:35:30.988
[SPEAKER_00]: They started in the Falle Dojo New Zealand moved over the no-gay Dojo went on excursion.

01:35:31.348 --> 01:35:31.868
[SPEAKER_00]: Now look at them.

01:35:32.228 --> 01:35:35.450
[SPEAKER_00]: So just some names to file away in the back of your head.

01:35:38.152 --> 01:35:42.694
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm always impressed and happy to see new name.

01:35:42.734 --> 01:35:46.617
[SPEAKER_01]: If you know the same J. feels like he's got a strong

01:35:47.503 --> 01:35:50.925
[SPEAKER_01]: future more so than a couple other people that have come out there.

01:35:51.566 --> 01:36:02.592
[SPEAKER_01]: And so this is a you have five year playing kind of people you know, if they're if they're going to deliver and could be five years for now, but hopefully we're doing this show in five years, we can talk about how far they've come.

01:36:03.493 --> 01:36:05.214
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, we're getting on 200 episodes.

01:36:05.334 --> 01:36:06.675
[SPEAKER_00]: We've been doing it for a few years now.

01:36:06.995 --> 01:36:07.255
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:36:07.475 --> 01:36:07.816
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

01:36:08.316 --> 01:36:11.058
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, Kyle, what show are you out of here again next month?

01:36:11.098 --> 01:36:11.438
[SPEAKER_01]: What week?

01:36:12.745 --> 01:36:25.573
[SPEAKER_00]: That's going to be late November, you know, before but before Thanksgiving, it's like the, the, the, the weekend, where they're the weekend of the 15th, so I guess what the 13th or 14th, there's something like that is the one in the calendar.

01:36:25.613 --> 01:36:26.474
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know the calendar.

01:36:26.774 --> 01:36:29.836
[SPEAKER_01]: We can just skip it if those stay in the giving week, but clearly not that.

01:36:30.276 --> 01:36:30.916
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not that one.

01:36:31.197 --> 01:36:34.959
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, yeah, we're not doing the show on Thanksgiving day, but we, yeah, I'm going to be in Las Vegas.

01:36:37.600 --> 01:36:41.423
[SPEAKER_01]: Why don't you go thin it up while I hold down the four over here, buddy.

01:36:42.435 --> 01:36:43.216
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's see what I can do.

01:36:43.936 --> 01:36:44.296
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

01:36:44.377 --> 01:36:50.661
[SPEAKER_00]: So once again, by the time we come back here next week, we will have one night of the Super Junior Tournament Tag Team Tournament.

01:36:50.701 --> 01:36:55.785
[SPEAKER_00]: So night one is the 23rd when we are back here on speaking a strong style.

01:36:55.825 --> 01:36:58.448
[SPEAKER_00]: So we will be able to review that show.

01:36:58.688 --> 01:37:01.330
[SPEAKER_00]: We'll talk about Tahichi's homecoming as well.

01:37:01.630 --> 01:37:05.413
[SPEAKER_00]: And any other news notes that come up in the mean time.

01:37:05.633 --> 01:37:07.895
[SPEAKER_00]: So anything else before we wrap this one up, Jeremy?

01:37:08.115 --> 01:37:11.084
[SPEAKER_01]: Now let's shut this down, thank everybody all the new names.

01:37:11.445 --> 01:37:15.897
[SPEAKER_01]: Hey Nick, I hope you have a great trip wherever you're going and I'll thank for joining us while you're back then.

01:37:16.408 --> 01:37:22.631
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, absolutely, and thanks as always to Fernando and we have our anonymous star guy with us Colin Warhero.

01:37:22.771 --> 01:37:29.415
[SPEAKER_00]: Warhero was here, he said, the ace, the ace is either the opponents for the knockout brothers, he says, good to see Warhero.

01:37:30.175 --> 01:37:40.741
[SPEAKER_00]: And Maria was here, although all the you guys, we really appreciate anyone who watches us like anyone who listens to us later here on YouTube or as a podcast, we're really grateful for your time.

01:37:40.801 --> 01:37:41.902
[SPEAKER_00]: That's always, thank you.

01:37:42.222 --> 01:37:43.343
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so with that in mind,

01:37:44.164 --> 01:37:45.473
[SPEAKER_00]: We will sign off for now.

01:37:45.674 --> 01:37:47.385
[SPEAKER_00]: For Jeremy Feinstein, I'm Stephen Conway.

01:37:47.446 --> 01:37:50.325
[SPEAKER_00]: This has been Speaking of Strong Style and we'll talk to you again real soon.