NJPW Departure Rumors: Finlay, EVIL, Hiromu & Kidd Leaving? | Speaking of Strong Style

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[SPEAKER_01]: New Japan was back in action this week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They had one really good turnout, one completely embarrassing one, and another one that was kind of in the middle.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The booking meanwhile displayed a lot of the bad habits that made that embarrassing attendance a reality.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was a sobering reminder to me of just how far this company has to go to be back on track.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We also heard some very strong rumors regarding major exits, including two people who are or were faction leaders.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And one of the aces of the junior heavyweight division over the last 10 years.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It has been an event for a week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Lots to get into.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So with Jeremy Feinstein, I'm Stephen Conway.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is Speaking of Strong Style.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Welcome everyone to Speaking of Strong Style.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We discussed the news issues and events surrounding New Japan pro wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We are contributors to the fight game media network.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Jordan for Canada is here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hello Jordan, pleasure with us.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And very everybody here watching us live.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It has been an event for week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Jeremy, three shows and a lot of rumors.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I've just been taking it in and watching the shows and watching it with a different perspective when you know about some of the behind the scenes stuff that's bubbling.

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[SPEAKER_01]: How did you feel watching this week's section?

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I thought blue justice was just kind of there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I had a great time watching that first night at Corkin and I thought the second night didn't quite match up to it So we were briefly talking before we started the show and you got a completely different opinion about the show and I'm like

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, now we're saving all of this for the show and we're going to unpack all of this and I'm going to hear what you have to say you're going to hear what I'm going to have to say, but it felt like as soon as those shows were over.

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[SPEAKER_00]: River started running about who was going what and where and.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, people that I talked to, people that I've become friends to the podcast are reporting things and wait around in the show or whatever we get to it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll unpack what they figured out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What we're about to and what I wanted to mention here in acknowledge is that Jeremy sent me some presence from Japan from this Japanese trip and I got to people on the good guy come over a cool ton of how she knew Japan lie in Mark shirt for his retirement very cool I'm wearing a right now and then he also sent me the Tokyo don't program which I'm displaying over here so that is the program from the rest of kingdom 20 shows so Jeremy just want to say thank you very much for these very cool a

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[SPEAKER_01]: a full color program that's just got stuff about every single wrestler involved, a little bit of history of Wrestle Kingdom in the first place and this is going to be really fun to flip through and to keep as a momentum of a very big night in the company history.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm glad you like it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That artwork on that shirt, if probably one of my most favorite pieces of art, I've seen it a very long time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You can't really buy it in the States.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's limited to being purchased in Japan just for various reasons, but I got, I got you that shirt, I got a couple other people that shirt, but I just, I don't know, I felt like you had a really big impact in me going to the show, and you got me some stuff last year, and I kind of thought that I would be kind of a dick.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know reciprocate in kind, the generosity you showed me at that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, I wouldn't want you to feel that way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I just wanted to mention too that it was really cool that he's winning a ride right here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This design here that, and I know this is great for podcast folks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sorry about that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But it's very cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: are just rendering of the ace with a lot of flares just to it over the morning.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like a baby lion dignified like all the young lions that he brought into the world.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he's got it knee pads that say like thank you from Tana Hashi and that it's got it like 1999 to 2022 on the other knee pad, which is very little flares and hints about like his entire career.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Good night to all.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was in love with it and I bought myself a copy of that shirt.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I bought poster of that shirt.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to frame it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I bought a little acrylic panel of that of that thing because my God, I truly, truly love that I got it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Nick Reeves mentioned if they put that ton of shirt in the online shop, I'd be broke.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's pretty cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they also have the shop here in the United States anyway has one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It looks like it's the same artist because a lot of the little flourishes on this or reminiscent of it, but a Tai Chi shirt where he's sort of drawn in as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: My Tai Chi shirt has a lot of the same stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think that's the same resident artist that they're using.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if he's in residence.

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[SPEAKER_01]: outstanding work.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The the Taiichi shirt jumped off the page at me, which is why I ordered it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I mean, I'm a Taiichi fan anyway.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I like my love the shirt.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then this isn't even better version of it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's an even better version of his work and in full color.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Very, very cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So thank you, bud.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Appreciate it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, hey, no worry.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm wearing a I bought it for ever a hoodie.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm wearing it right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a

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[SPEAKER_00]: it's someone on the nerdy side, it's probably more of an indoor hoodie than an outdoor hoodie, but I bought a track suit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to probably wear that on a special occasion here on the show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I bought a couple of t-shirts.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, kind of want to commemorate the experience and I probably actually going to take one of the t-shirts and still it away as part of a project that I'm doing where I just have various t-shirts throughout my life and I'm going to make a quilt

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, just kind of have like one of those, hey, now that I'm not wearing the shirt or whatever, just something that would be on a night or remember all these cool things that happened in my life or then show the band.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you recall and put you on the spot here?

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[SPEAKER_01]: We didn't discuss this beforehand.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you recall what the first wrestling shirt you ever bought was.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Look at Eddie Guerrero, Latino heat, I like, I cheat, I steal.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, nice.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I think we have good I took it to the gym.

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[SPEAKER_01]: he won't be surprised to hear that mine goes back quite a ways before that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was a British Bulldogs shirt and it was sort of a long sleeve tee that they had with the union jack on its British Bulldogs for Dynamite Kid and Davey Boy Smith.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They were still a team in the WWF then.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that was those were my guys, Dynamite Kid.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I watched wrestling

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[SPEAKER_01]: starting in 1983, but Dynamite Kid was the first time I looked at the guy and said, that's my favorite wrestler.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I bought a lady one that aged both of us significantly, but it wasn't until probably, you know, 95 to 97 or what I wasn't watching wrestling, where I had a little bit of autonomy because I was buying my own clothes instead of my parents.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So the wrestling teacher, both

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[SPEAKER_00]: uh, stylistically aesthetically and, you know, getting permission didn't happen until I was much later away.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I got that with my allowance.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was able to go to the merch stand with my allowance.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was able to get that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's when T-shirts were kind of expression with family.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But those shirts were like only $20 spec then got nose, but they are now and you go to those things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, so by the way Jeremy or you mentioned that you you were trying to find the Egg shells book by Chris Charlton couldn't I just put an Amazon link in the chat there that is a link to his hope if you want to get it

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[SPEAKER_01]: and Nick Grieves.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's going to make a spill old.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He tells us that off the bat.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's hear it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sorry to date you both, but the first wrestling shirt I remember owning was a cheap $10 John Cena Walmart shirt when I was around fourth grade.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, there you go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's all you have to do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah, we all have different roads to getting to the risk.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Big shank, don't look at that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I bought mine at a house show when they came around South Bend.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That would have happened.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now like, now when I go to show for like my wife, she walks to buy shirts that like batch because she walks to commemorate the event.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I look at her, like, that's really sweet, but that's also like a hundred-fucked followers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're they're they're hoping that people will do that kind of thing and like I may do it, but I'm going to take one of their shirts that

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[SPEAKER_00]: from like 10 years ago, you know, Daniel Bryan became like a bad guy and they didn't like a wanted poster.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I said wanted Daniel Bryan on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm gonna take that image and I'm gonna put it as part of the quilt and I'm just gonna be like things like that that I might wear from time to time but I'm more like we to preserve it in like something like that than, you know, just being one of the 75 t-shirts that I like went through and like, oh my god, I need to do something with all of these things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: that became the product and anyone else have like way too many t-shirts like oh yeah yeah I have to get rid of some it's hard for your cool like there's like a deal where you're hunting if mail them off and they they make you a quilt with all the like your abuse t-shirts

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[SPEAKER_01]: I honestly need to think about doing that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm way over on my tee.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just, there's just, we're old.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We don't get rid of clothes, we just accumulate more.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like they just, they just kind of like, oh, I got the really cool shirt from Japan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not getting rid of any of my other shirts.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I actually have a rule that if I buy a dress shirt or a polo shirt or something nice, I have to get rid of something one for one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's my rule.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that is to keep me from having Dress clothes that look like, no, I'm going to a nation like I'm in where I'm completely like, I don't even have room and I'm just living out of laundry hammers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, more than that, too, is I don't want to go to some nice restaurant looking like I fell out of something 20 years ago, a time capsule, just like Jesus, like I have grown and we don't know how to hire to go and shirt.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Doesn't know how to take care of himself, so that is the thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I don't have that rule with t-shirts, and I really need that rule with t-shirts.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That should be my rule with t. If I get one, I have to get rid of one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I don't want to get rid of it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's a bit of struggle.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I don't know if you guys are in your 40s, but by the time you get your 40s, you're going to have a lot of t-shirts.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You don't want to buy t-shirts because all these places that you go to and you collect and you shrink and you grow.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then you're going to have so many t-shirts that by the time you cycle all the way through them, it's like two months and then they don't even wear out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They don't even wear it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just really wearing it here in a month or so.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you're like and then then you have the shirt that you're like I did I buy that one Yeah, I bought like a four-pillar shirt, but it wasn't like the D4 pillar to the AEW.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was It was like brick baker and general boy and Darby Allen and Sammy Gavara, and I looked at him like Oh, that's a bit really stone or something

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's always good to go shopping like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, goodness.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now let's get down to some business.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We've been avoiding it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There was a rough week, but Bankon Bjorn is here and he mentions it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He said, I'm here because I heard about a evil going to WWE.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, that's what we heard too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So there's a lot of slow guys we've been talking about for a while.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And oh, Jeremy got the audio book, excellent.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm glad you got it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think you're going to enjoy it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Here's the thing here, Jeremy, we have been hearing for a long time that David Finlay was a strong possibility to be heading back stateside.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We had heard other rumors of other guys, and one of them was indeed the leader of House of Torture Evil, and this past week it has moved from something we've been hearing underground to something that sounds pretty likely to happen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Evil

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[SPEAKER_01]: Of course, all the comparisons are already starting because you just with with the way night to left, the way you'll cut a left and of course evil just did.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yoman's works Jeremy did the the the did really hard work putting over Aaron Wolfe's strong at wrestle kingdom.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is that going to be sort of one of if not the last major impression of evil in New Japan for now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What are your thoughts?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It sounds like this is going to happen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, first off, I would very much like to give credit or credit if do on this one, which is Joel from the SuperJacast, was the one that basically was able to unearth the majority of this information and just asking around afterwards, it just seemed like all that is all pretty viable what I'm gonna be able to convey here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, and we'll play Gibblas already, rest of the last match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: uh... he's not on the schedule moving forward the cork and shows might have been quietly his last goodbye he's not on any of the shows coming up to the new beginning in a soccer he's not on the new beginning of the socca uh... after that it seems like ww is the destination for him but there's never been there's never been a confirmation other than uh...

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[SPEAKER_00]: With that being said, his wife works there, you know, like he's networked to their last year at Mania, there are opportunities for somebody like him there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I don't know, I don't know yet, but I do know pretty certainly, even if you go, look at that schedule right now, he's not in the plan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: like they have moved on without him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's Renderita.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He has been a backbone for the company.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sometimes getting shit on, sometimes not getting the credit heat of service.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But uh...

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[SPEAKER_00]: as Chris Samson mentioned to me offline that like he did what other guys didn't do on the way out and they put over a young new talent to really set the bar going forward with Aaron Wolf and now it can air in wool camp but you can't say that that guy didn't do everything in his power to you know kick him down the hill with a ton of momentum.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, yeah, and there's a few things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, I think, and answers are he and EO actually married.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if they're actually married or not.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've heard the relationships going on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've been referred to me as husband and wife and in retinue to that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, I am just going with the headband debate.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't know Shinko was married two weeks ago, so no, there you go, but you know, so they might very well be.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Point being they've been in a long term relationship for web.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The other side of this render read and not getting enough credit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not sure render read is done enough to deserve any credit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, well, yeah, evil definitely is for people get called the credit in the world.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if I don't, I don't know where render read came from.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, no, I'm just saying the rendering is going to have to step up and it's going to be his group and we might have to finally see if he's really got enough to to go with on this because there are times I look at the read a another guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's see.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I see.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I wonder if there will be just because an arena is showed so little to me in terms of effort or particular ability to be a top guy in New Japan so far.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Initiative for sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: To me, part way is it's just because he's a kind of guy that seems to take on the energy of whoever he was around and they had a paired up with Samada for so long that it just seems to have sacked any will drive or determination out of him for a minute.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But because those guys were just so low effort together that it was hard to watch.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's going to have to step up or he's going to get run over it's it's time for him to either become a star or prove that he's not going to be one and evil stepping aside is a good opportunity to really find out it's it's time for

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to get into it later.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This generation aside from Yoda's sushi might be remembered as the biggest with swing and miss of a generation of wrestlers in quite a long time because the things need to happen for anybody aside from Yoda's sushi to

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[SPEAKER_01]: you know, make something out of us are our be a midcarter and that's kind of what we're looking out there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so Narita, it's, he's the furthest back of any of them and we're talking about show to Umano and you you're going more right here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So hardly an impressive list and yet Narita is in the back seat and that's a little nerve wracking to think.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll see what they end up doing with house torture if evil actually leaves because he has been the one anchor

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[SPEAKER_01]: and has when he's been in a spot where he wanted to be saw that in the g1 final last year he had a fantastic match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And my only thing is I thought that what would help Narita a lot is if he were to turn on evil kick him out of the group because two reasons one I think that would help Narita.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Second of all I think evil proved in that g1 run that there's a little bit of baby face left in him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: that would have worked.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if we're going to get that next.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This appears to be a little bit more imminent than all that, but it's, we'll see what they do with the reader.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There needs to be something where if evil just walks away, and they just say, okay, well, now Ren and Rita is

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think you're wrong.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'd not sure that they have a catalytic event.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Why not to really put Renderita in the stratosphere as the bad guy, leader of torture, because there's a lot of shoes, there's a lot of big shoes to fill in that role.

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[SPEAKER_00]: In a lot of the, you could have argued like, maybe it's not of, he was still gonna be viable, but he's not.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's gone and he can't wrestle anymore.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he's good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: My understanding is neck fusion surgery is on the card for him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, there's no guarantee he's going to come back from that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, we got to, you know, temper any expectation from that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, people are thinking that, hey, going to Noah, that's probably not going to happen in all honesty.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so, somebody who might be going to Noah, though, we'll get to him, man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: it's a robot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, a robot talkahashi appears also credit to SuperJacast.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He appears to be on the way out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the interesting story here Steven is apparently

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's been pushed, there has been a push to get him to move to the heavyweight division.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you've seen that in the past where you were tagging with Nino and they were doing that and they had that brief title run last year that it erupted by the box.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So one of them so forth.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But he's not interested in that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He walked to Russell as a junior and he walked to continue with that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so they're at an impasse and, you know,

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's not a part of the junior heavyweight plan and he doesn't want to be a part of the heavyweight plans, and it's not not end of the world like never again with each other, but a deal not going to be made.

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[SPEAKER_01]: As much a Noah guy over the last six months as he has really a new Japan guy, the matches, I mean, he did more new Japan matches than he did Noah matches, he would kind of parachute into Noah for kind of big shows and then the tournament, but he's been a part of Noah's story for a lot of 20, 25.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it would be a fairly smooth transition over if I think about

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's one of my favorite wrestlers over the last 10 years.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We've talked about how he's a little bit more opponent dependent than he used to be.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It used to be that Heromo was the guy that could take anybody and carry them to a great match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now Heromo sort of needs someone to get him going.

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[SPEAKER_01]: A little motivated, a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he can still do it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He had the best match at the Noah show you at saw on the New Year's Day.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And perhaps just a change of scenery is about right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: What can he, what more can he really do in New Japan?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It just doesn't seem like there is a whole lot left other than

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[SPEAKER_01]: stuff he's already done several times.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so it might be time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It might be time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: As difficult as that is for me because there was one of my favorite to watch, it's probably time to try something new for him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Noah might be the spot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There are a couple of guys in Noah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not going to say it's pretty good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is Ashima guy who's just learning the ropes over there on the cards and Noah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's been pushed a little bit lately.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think he's part of their junior

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, that guy's a talented dude.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If her Omo can come over and help them out, then maybe that's the right time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he can hang out with his friends.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It seems like an obvious thing to join, uh, the tranquillos and Spuci and, and night tour over their part time, you know, again, they're not doing the, the full tours.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Their bodies just aren't going to do that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, but maybe her Omo can carry that torch.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, horrible in the jigger heavyweight division in New Japan, right now, would round out the top five.

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[SPEAKER_00]: not me in the top four.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And again, arguably, he would get that fifth spot off of legacy and tenure rather than, you know, what he's accomplished in the junior heavyweight division.

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[SPEAKER_00]: As of late, because he spent a lot of time in Noah, uh, he wasn't particularly, uh, blowing into one away in the Super Junior Tag League.

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[SPEAKER_00]: didn't do particularly well in the best of super-chingers this year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, if they they've focused on Doki, Desperado, Akira, and Koki Fujita, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so it looked to me like

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, you're getting to some level of co-save food, uh, cure, uh, really going to the next level within the next year with Doki and Desparado kind of getting them there is really the map for that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And as a result, you know, that where it is from, where it is from, where it is from where we're fitting that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, and if you think and they want, you want to be a bigger component to that division,

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, they have to move forward and this wouldn't be the first time, obviously, that Newspend talent downshifted to Noah because the opportunities to be in a top spot on that card with their tenure downshifting is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: pretty common, you know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And of course we've got a United Empire unbound company thing going right now that they're probably going to work through to new beginning maybe a little bit after, but it's something that my thing unbound company is mostly going to put over the top guys from United Empire.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think Newman is about to have a pretty strong run with things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, speaking of Newman, he, uh, you go one of the first to sign a, um, a multi your contract in a while.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So he mentioned that on his post-match comments and, uh, three years.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and well, I'm at which is why they're putting so much faith in them as far as Storylines go because they know he's going to be around.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm finally, I am finally before he goes going to get my dream junior heavyweight tag team by the way, Harobu and Taiji is she morey are going to team up at pretty getting in Osaka.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Interesting point about that going back to the House of Torture discussion.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Render Rita is the only member of House of Torture Book on that show in Osaka at this point.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I have no doubt that there's going to be interference in Gaga in that match, but as far as having a match, the only House of Torture Guy right now is Narita challenging Aaron Wolf for that never open-way time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So what, him showing Doki, or pretty much the viable guys, and that's action right now.

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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So there might be other joining who knows, you know, how they do that stuff, but can't wait for Fally to have this run if they're running in those spring times.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it is, the new winner will have the group.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But if evil's gone, it is strange.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Bankan mentions the same thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, how, how would you even do that put put over Narita?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just have him do a backstage interview.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It says, I'm the leader now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, like, it's it's so strange.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he just does the sneering.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I sent that coward away.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You couldn't even face anyone on his way out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm the new leader.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then you just put him on a run where either him or whoever is the guy has a really good new Japan cup.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think he should be Aaron Wolfe.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think he's going to be there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So in that case, then you can have the whole thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: outside of Doki as being losers since wrestling them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And there haven't been very many shows as wrestling them, but they granted.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But that's been the story.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They lost the domain of that blue justice.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That kind of thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They lost most of their matches over the course of the two of Corican except for the Doki match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so it might be a thing where

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[SPEAKER_01]: Narita loses the match at new beginning and they have to kind of tuck tail and regroup and come up with something else, whether it's a new member or a new approach or whatever you see a faction in New Japan, United Empire just went through all this, but they just look like losers, losers, losers, losers, that's like the last thing that happens before there's a big search for.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so whatever they have in mind, post

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[SPEAKER_01]: want to know how they post evil.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's already in motion because I think they're going to tear them down before they build them back up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that seems to be in process.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I keep running back to the idea that

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[SPEAKER_00]: Of this new generation, we have three baby faces in one heal and I think we need two baby faces and two healers of the of the people that they're trying to spotlight in this current generation and I and I wonder if what is going on with the tag division is kind of perpetuating that direction.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, well, I hope so, and we're going to talk about that because something needs to go on there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Nick says in hindsight, I wonder if they'd have put Jake Lee and House of Torture had they known evil was leaving?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I felt he would have been a natural fit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So fair.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, no, I think this is much better about for him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I like, I like the United Empire thing, but it is a fair question, isn't it?

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[SPEAKER_01]: That would, would they have just slid them over into that spot?

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I don't think this thing with evil would have come out of left field.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I don't want to know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Watsonabe and Tana Hashir tight, there's been a connection with those guys, ever since evil was a young lion.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Tana Hashir is always taking pretty good care of him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And with Tana Hashir leaving, this is a natural time for him to kind of bow out, too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, it's...

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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel strongly that probably evil was not going to blindside Tana on this one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just think there was probably a fair amount of, hey, I'm going to do this thing with Aaron Wolfe and then I'm going to, and then I'm out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, but I'm going to do this right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, as Sam said, the dude's a company man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, you've never heard a bad thing about evil for anyone other than the fan to don't like watching his matches.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Jordan from Canada mentions, maybe they could put in or maybe they could punch Nareda and try him as a sympathetic baby face.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe, you know, I don't know, we'll see.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just feel like something's brewing with House of Torture in this already in motion, but, you know, I know you may kick out a rent.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It, I think he would be better off being the leader than joining Han Thai or joining another

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[SPEAKER_00]: do you want to do they dissolve house of torture?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, they might, they could.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's, they seem to be recycling through a lot of these guys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They retired bullet club all together now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they pretty much got rid of any faction that was there during Ocata and nighto and.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I looked it up, Hauntai is still there, but TMDK was established, I think in 2023, United Empire was established in 2020 and how the torture was established in 2021, which is all kind of this after that era going to the pandemic.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So everything that could be created has been pandemic and

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[SPEAKER_00]: all the factions, L-I-J, Bullet Club, Suzuki-Goo.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're all gone.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're all gone.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, they have shifted through all the factions, their shelf life have done, whatever their carmondating, whatever it is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It go over at a time for, it's time for fresh facts and to fresh ideas.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't believe you not an empire or TMDK or going anywhere anytime soon, but how's the torture is pretty much like a wild car right now?

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[SPEAKER_00]: They could do whatever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So do you think Fimlay said it out also?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it very likely, but I don't think that anything, I don't think anything, still.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Pen may not be to paper on that one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's, they're still protecting themselves big because they have him sideline to the point that, you know, if he left tomorrow, it really wouldn't affect the storyline much.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right now he and Newman are John at each other as they would and they're set to face off at, was it Osaka, I think, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is one new thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But if he put over Newman on the way out, he would have done.

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[SPEAKER_00]: perfect, great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If, you know, he ends, if you stuck around, he's kind of hit a ceiling and being a second or a third and a fact should be high chingo and Yoda feels like a downgrade for him professionally in the company, and this is the best opportunity to be seen at the top guy going to another promotion.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It really happened to potentially start from the bottom, but

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[SPEAKER_00]: having that opportunity and that Keshaya being, having his positioning stronger than ever that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If I had to guess, WWE, I don't particularly think that there is a mutual appreciation between AEW and him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've never really seen him do much on AEW if he didn't have to.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So,

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's kind of my read of it, but I don't have any, I think, other than the separation and what I've seen to kind of base that through and for game kid, I mean, we all kind of think he's going to a W. I wouldn't be shocked if we heard the WWE was making a play for him because why wouldn't you?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Why wouldn't you least like try and try and leave you get this guy from.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That would feel more like you're just trying to pop up the asking price for Tony on that on it just doesn't I honestly don't know what I don't know what value he would really bring to WWE.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's just got a WWE style guy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, their vision and what they want to do with some of these guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I could see them trying to make it work, you know, people would

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[SPEAKER_00]: There are people out there that will treat Gabe Kid and think he was a much better fit for WWE than evil.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And there are people that will see that and think that evil is a much better fit for WWE than Gabe Kid.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Unless they both go to WWE, we're never going to know for sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Just one of those.

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[SPEAKER_00]: These are all just assumptions that we make about, you know, what their qualities, what their strength and how they're matched into these promotions that they then move on to.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, there's a possibility, kid, to the AEW and have a dual contract, you know, he comes back and forth, but whatever it is, it's going to be significantly in favor of whatever other promotions they can.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then Nick reached things that evil fits way better in WWE than Gabe.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I kind of thanks up to, I'm not saying the Gabe couldn't do it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just saying, I wonder if WWE would look at Gabe and just think, oh, we can do something with that guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Really?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Probably, maybe.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think, and says, I want to see WWE evil, WWE evil, I'm not sure what I mean.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He doesn't want to put him in the with the talkings.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like the talkings.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then Nick Reeves mentioned, I watch Finley, Russell Hangman, live in Dynamite in 2022.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't think he appeared there again.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He hasn't done much with that, that I recall.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Nick also says, it feels like the love, the domestic audience has for House of Torture.

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[SPEAKER_01]: which I think is overblown, by the way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It does not show up in ticket sales.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's put it that way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's specifically tied to their love of evil and not the rest of the crew to a greater degree even than the night to an L.I.J.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was easier for L.I.J to continue in some form without possible pop, without popular excuse me, without popular the rest of the members were that it will be for H.O.T.

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[SPEAKER_01]: without evil.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's probably true because at least Shingo had fans,

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[SPEAKER_01]: just kind of a bunch of guys who don't win very much.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But you do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's see.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Jordan from Canada says he sees a lot of Steve Austin and kid shout out to the channel Ranton and reviews pro wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's calling kid a future star for years now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, maybe.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we'll see.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think he's probably going to go to AEW and be another guy there as so, you know, but maybe maybe maybe he'll break out of the pack, but AEW is a hard pack to break out of because.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's hard to make stars, you know, it's hard to make stars.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We don't have stars.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, you know, because it's with the jatherite earth, which is already a better place than a majority of the roster.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's his spot to lose and hit momentum to lose, but with the way that AEW goes through talent with injuries and just everything at any given point, he could be given the ball and run with it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He does have main event energy and they're going to come a day where like a match between, say, hang man and Gabe Kid, if going to be the main event of a show and people are going to go the nut for it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I can't believe that they're wrong.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, well, and we'll see what the year brings for AEW.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It'll be interesting because it'll be interesting just because it doesn't seem like a whole lot's moving any needles for them, but it's a lot of the same guys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So a game kid, the Death Retter arc.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Jeremy says, how do they handle this in your opinion with all the guys leaving?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, they protected themselves a little bit, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: We mentioned the David Finlay and Gabe Kidd have been out of the storyline mix.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, really, if they left tomorrow, not a whole lot would change in the story lines.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Evil is a bit of a different story.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And by like we mentioned earlier, we think that there is something brewing with House of Torture, the loss after loss after loss.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Narita being the only guy booked it's the new beginning show where we think he's going to lose to Aaron Wolfe.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's too early to be there and I think they'd be crazy to do that, but New Japan makes a lot of mistakes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we'll see.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But it just feels like something's brewing there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So they're protecting themselves on that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hiromu would be a loss, but the junior heavyweight division has moved on a bit from Hiromu.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's more disparados group.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's more dokey's division now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Fujiga and Eagles are coming up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Fujita in particular, I think, is the next ace.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hiromu was kind of on the way down that slide there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just don't think he was going to be the force that he was.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So if anything, it might just be

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[SPEAKER_01]: good for the bookers to have a clean break from these guys and it's going to force their hand.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There are already putting a lot into Calum Newman.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They believe in him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's a talented guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's probably going to be a good bet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think Newman's going to have terrific matches.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He seems to have pretty good heel attitude.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Francesco Akira, another terrific junior heavyweight guy that can be in that division.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So

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[SPEAKER_01]: They protected themselves a little bit and I think it's going to force them to look at some other people in prominent positions, which might be just what the company needs because let's face to 2025 is a bad year, it was just a bad year, especially the second half of it and what we saw this week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're still troubling science business-wise.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So because that first core can all show was an absolutely embarrassing number, tenants.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I think they do need to push new people.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We've been saying it for months in the show that they need to get behind people and push.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I might force them to do so.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So how do they handle it?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think you got to go with the new guys with with new guys on top and that's going to that's going to help.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Jordan says I feel bad for people leaving New Japan.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They need long-term commitment.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe they need to make sure talent are not interested in the big two like AEW has done with talent who may want to go to WWE.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The key is they would have to get a lot of money from Bushy Road to make that happen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the Japanese economy is tough.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You got to pay them an awful lot just to come out even in Japanese money.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And New Japan doesn't have that kind of money.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, keep mine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Tony's just spending his inheritance.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's spending his dad's money doing this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he's profitable because he got a good television deal.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, but the key is he doesn't care.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he's got billions and his debt well as debt has billions.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he's gotten a lot from his debt.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So,

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's just spending his dad's money and WWE is God knows they're just swimming in cash with some of the sponsorship deals they have and the TV deals they have.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So New Japan can't just pay people not to leave.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They can't really afford to unless Bushy Road just opens up the pockets and just says here do whatever you want and there's no evidence that that's coming.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They have zero history of doing so.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, a rough Japanese economy and a low period in terms of interest for new Japan means that they're probably not going to have the person to do that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's going to have to come from creative, not from just money whipping the problem.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, we're, we're in a different period than we were a couple years ago.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The fact that column knew man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: have to multi your contract instead of going year by year by year is a good thing in my opinion.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They don't need to have a lot of people on multi your contract, but there are key people that are foreigners that they kind of need to walk in.

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[SPEAKER_00]: on a longer basis, so they can tell longer stories and invest them within the roster without fear of removing them, without completing whatever arc.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If they'll for them and the homegrown talent that they're also trying to advance with these wrestlers as a foil and vice versa.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So

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[SPEAKER_00]: I do think that you are right in that 2025 is not the best year and in hindsight, you know, they stuck way too much on the Tanaashi retirement and did not.

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[SPEAKER_00]: step on the gas with the progression of the younger talent.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And now it seems that that is completely deliberately by design.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They didn't want to have two concurrent areas of momentum at the same time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we're going to argue about whether or not this is going to be viable in the long run, but three out of the years is what they did.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, like we are seeing, we are seeing now in

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[SPEAKER_00]: Tonahashi left, became this moment of like, okay, you know, to suit you to the guy, he's not smiling and everybody anymore.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's the asking champion that is like, you go through me and you have to wrestle a new champion to get a title shot all of these great things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And now you have an opportunity, you know, these cork and shows.

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[SPEAKER_00]: to get these younger talent and really put them in a place of spotlight, but I'm not shocked that these tickets didn't sell out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not at all shocked.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's going to take a little while for this word of mouth, this idea that like, hey, this is a different product.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like we're seeing Shota and Yuya do these 30 minute, like absolute strong style brawls and we're getting these great like never matches at the top of the card.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This feels different than the last like six months year to year, this feels like they're doing something me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so, I think Jake we is a really good first opponent for Yoda Fuji.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think, you know, what they're doing there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: is a really strong event.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm really excited for new beginning.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, Saka.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I looked at that card of the eight matches up and down and I was like, Hell yeah, I'm here for all of this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I get that, you know, after Tana Hash is gone.

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[SPEAKER_00]: deceit's a remedy and people aren't there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But how you get those feet filled is you have shows like Monday where you're just watching and it's like, okay, stuff is happening and I'm invested in these top matches and there's something at the lower level of the card.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Even though I know you have critiques about that show in general that I'm actually dying to hear.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We are in a position right now, we're honestly really exciting to be in New Japan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There are a lot of, you know, the road is open ahead of us and there is a lot of ground to cover and it could be rough terrain.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It could be a paradise.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not sure, but it does feel really exciting to be watching New Japan at this exact moment.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So a couple of other things that mentioned in Nick mentions that they probably could sign Calum longer term because the Western interest isn't there like it is for others.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but you find the right people that, you know, like if Hartley, jab to two years, a Kira, three years, he's a perfect guy to have for three years.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then whatever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Bank of mentions and in the end, New Japan will always have Zach.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, Zach is Zach is a strong guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's a he's a great wrestler.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's one of my favorite wrestlers to watch.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Unfortunately, Zach is is proven that he's not a ticket seller at this point, but that's that's one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's great to have on the shows.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's great to have on the show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I wouldn't necessarily break it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's him that he's going to be there forever.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he'll be there for a long time, but they change for everybody.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then Jordan will get to that last question here a little bit later because so got thoughts.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We need to talk about these shows here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we talk about the people who are leaving here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The people who are staying.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The first one was Blue Justice.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was on Sunday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was in Cheba.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is the Blue Justice shows presented by.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Eugene Agada, and it's in his home prefecture of his home area rather, not prefecture.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's his hometown of Chiba, and specifically the Sakura neighborhood of Shea, but it's a city within the city, so to speak there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And this show drew 1,650 people, which is almost five, what is it?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So like four or five hundred more than last year, he's the best promoter that New Japan has right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He brought in the people for this, which is very much a house show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But the people there do love Nagata and they showed up for it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The undercard of this was nothing particularly to speak of.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But the main event was Aaron Wolfe, all of both in Toriano and Nagata, of course, defeating the house of torture, Dictogo, Evil Rennerita, and Yuzuro.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Wolfe ended up winning the match with the triangle leg choke.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Wolfe did slam pretty good elbow drop.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And not a whole lot else, again, that this is very smart.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They are easing him into things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So he only did a few things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Everything he did, he did pretty well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he sold a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the selling was all right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So overall, nothing wrong with that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They get the win at the end.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's the type of show where you're going to have the happy ending.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is not something that's going to set it up for later.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're getting the new gene that got included at the end.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's like the Joggina guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're...

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, the hero's standing tall, regardless of how everything else is blue justice.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that building, as he mentioned, is about to be renovated and it will not be there next year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you should have got a delight at the fans of Cheba who love it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They just love them there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they, by saying that, well, I'll be back in two years.

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[SPEAKER_01]: uh... will have to do the next year show somewhere else but i i can't wait to be back in two years uh... back here at the newly renovated uh... i have a chance to hang it up you just walked up can't stop walked up eat just must be served not what he used to be but he can still go and uh... they they brought tens on in the ring tens on on his uh... thirty-fifth anniversary uh... tens on unfortunately just not able to go any more to the point that he had to kind of hold on to the top rope

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[SPEAKER_01]: In the ring because his body is the nerve damage there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's really taken over on here I'll see what the with the fresh cut.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, what do we think of the back?

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[SPEAKER_01]: We asked Jeremy how long would it be before Tana has she shows up again and then he was gone for one show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: One show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: New year's dash.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I told him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's not going to be able to stay away.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he probably shouldn't and he's a goodwill ambassador of the highest order.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He cut a pair.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's not the star of the show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He wasn't trying to be, but I'm just saying like you see going to go away.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I think he's going to be doing a lot of fan service at this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Probably.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He didn't need him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's fine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Whatever.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I got a kick out of watching him get a haircut.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And if watching his like whole kind of dial a little bit getting the haircut.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's like kind of coming back like, yeah, I'm a good looking old man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: My, my, my, my girlfriend was not okay with him getting his haircut.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She was a little, she was a little worried about that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know for fun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's weird.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, and did you, did you at all notice that, uh, Akata beat Tana Hashi so bad that, uh, Tana Hashi got a haircut to look just like Akata.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Did you, well, who did you see the, was Akata that had the funniest, well, Akata's funny anyway, but, uh, he got his hair, he got his, he changed his hair also.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And somebody asked him about it, uh, did I say mention that maybe I mentioned this last week or something, but they said, what kind of color do you want?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he says, I want you to go past Akata,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Which I thought was really funny.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's a, that's a flea spot right there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's that's it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is go past the cat.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But we're before you get to watch it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hold up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: A little more than I want.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, much of this blue jump to show it all.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All of Steve was cute.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It looks like a fun show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And actually kind of did not cut me up for the flop in the face that was the cork and show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, I was feeling a bit about this because I mean, a lot of people were in town post wrestling them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So a lot of people went to New Year's Dash.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Had it had a pretty solid turnout for New Year's Dash much bigger than when I was there the previous year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then Blue Justice had a good turnout.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I thought, oh, okay, all right, maybe maybe things are getting and getting on track.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe people are interested.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then Monday came in Corrican Hall

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[SPEAKER_01]: If not one thousand ninety one thousand and nine like ten people away from three digits in Corka and Hall one of the lowest crowds of any promotion in January and Corka can's been run a lot in January and This was one of the learning cup not a draw

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[SPEAKER_01]: one of the dirt we're still always not that's not the problem.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm kidding, Steven.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And not the problem, Jeremy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So here we go with this show that 400 empty seats in just embarrassing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But we'll get to why I think happened in life.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Young Lion Cup match in the first round is not the problem, but the first match was mastery as to Antezia Matsumoto.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And a standard stuff really a young lion match with a Boston crab finish, he asked to win so far.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll just say this as we go through this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The Young Lion Cup is all chalk, meaning it's the favorites of one of the matches, and it's basically been booked by seniority with one small exception that we're going to get to that was an angle, and I think a smart one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we're about to get to that one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yes, it moves on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Matsumoto is the most junior of all the young lions and he's out in the first round of course.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But Matsumoto is still part of the Godo Revolutionary Army such as this and yes, it works a lot with Tahiti but it's unafiliated at this point.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Next match, young lion cop, Tahiki Nagai, Zain Jay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Nagai, of course, part of unbound company.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Zane had wrestled for a quite a while before he even joined up with NJPW Strong, let alone came out to the Noge Dojo.

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[SPEAKER_01]: A lot more practical in-ring experience than the other lions.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They recognize this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure that his time in the Dojo, he learned some things, some fundamental things, a little foundational things of the New Japan Strong style.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But he didn't need to be in there longer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the guy was a pro wrestler, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not like he needs to learn how to wrestle in the way that a lot of young lions do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Calum Newman came out during this match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: offered up a chair to Zainjay and said you know what to do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's time, you know, never mind this young lion cup, the hell that that's not the point is it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's not what you want is it?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Zainjay thought about it for a while and said, nope, that's not what I want.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He whacked, dieking a guy, pouring a guy with a chair over the head.

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[SPEAKER_01]: which was gimmick nicely so that the seat gave way and didn't cause too much damage and he got it there didn't get any of the frame of the chair on the guy so about as good of a shot to the head as you're going to get with the chair and was disqualified never mind at the young line cup afterwards officially joined the United Empire.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And showed a little of that heel attitude in the the preview are the post match comments a little bit there and I think is the right move Jeremy there's I don't think he needed to spend a whole lot of time is a lion and this is the right fashion form I thought it was a good smart move and someone that can take the pressure of eating pins away from Jacob Austin young so it just doesn't have to be him over and over again young's a talented guy it is time for him to move up a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is one of those moments where in and out of itself, it is innocuous and it's just kind of a detail set forward for the here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But in the macro, it's kind of indicative of, okay, think they're happening in Newtrapin.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like we are moving forward, we are not doing the glaciers pace.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It is January of 26th.

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[SPEAKER_00]: we are probably spending the next two month having major shifts along the entire roster with alignment to change if an external current would be going on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you know, it's the same jail lining with United Empire.

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[SPEAKER_00]: United Empire is the hot flavor of the month right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, like they have their really building that faction as much as they're down shifting out the torture.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're they're upshifting with united empire like across the board.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is this is the faction they're trying to get a care ready in the junior heavyweight.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're getting jakely and then draw to you ready for each of the titles in the big division of play.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Just as this is where we're at and I think it's game jabbing the the pinnator at the younger level is great for Jacob Austin young and you know, I think that I think this is turning into a really viable strong faction that frankly speaking we were not talking about it this way a month ago.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think it's a good move.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So after that, we had a few preview tags.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mentioned just a couple of things from Aaron Wolf was in one with the rest of the guys from Haontai.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they beat House of Torture.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mentioned House of Torture with the exception.

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[SPEAKER_01]: One match pretty much had a rough week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was a Vindival finish on that one Watto getting the win over Dictogo Wolf.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Use the Super Lex and that one that looked pretty good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Use the slam, use the Zelbo drop.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I said this, this is exactly what I was talking about, Jeremy, have to do two things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Then the next day, maybe three things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's what we're seeing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But the worst thing in the world that could do is make him look ordinary.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I have to say they aren't, they aren't doing it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So far so good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's only doing things he's good at in public.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You work on the stuff he's not good at in, in the dojo.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're working on it before the show, in the ring, before the crowd gets in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: When he's in the ring, the only thing he should do is the stuff he knows how to do and can make look good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's all he needs to do right now and so far so good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Here's already starting to grow out again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I wonder what style is going to go with.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't know if he's going to grow the the curly why they had pretty good hair before he did before.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it could just be a completely new style for him going forward.

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[SPEAKER_01]: mini angle took place in the next match where Shingo Takagi, I am the rest of unbound company, we're facing United Empire, and Jake Lee sunk a big knee into Shingo's ribs and he sold it like crazy like he'd been badly badly hurt.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's about time for Shingo to take a week off or so.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Go figure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so he took that knee there and just kind of ruled out of the ring and stayed there the rest of the time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So they were doing a bit of an injury angle with that one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Akira won that one with a modified fireball.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They didn't have a name for that move yet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's so new.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they just called it a modified Emerald Flosion on the website.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I hope he names it soon.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll find out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He didn't impose mesh comments quite yet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then after that, we had two single smashes that stuck on ice.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So the personal was show, defeating Jose Fujita by disqualification, tons of Gaga on this one, DQ finished when Fujita hit show with the black mirror at Stank Borsko say Fujita match in a while.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then Kana Maru against Robbie Eagles, which also was pretty quick, nothing to it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He cheated whiskey, head scissors for the win, all to set up the junior heavyweight title match.

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[UNKNOWN]: So

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, in this one, the, the, you kind of borrow and show one of these two matches.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I mean, it's not like house torture lost out, but nevertheless, these were pretty bad matches that didn't help anybody.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So no one, no one came out of these looking good, but it was leading to the title match the next night.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And if you're going to do this to set up a title match, these two singles matches, and then work them like this, just don't bother.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Just don't,

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just wonder if they ran out of people to wrestle on the show and they didn't know they needed to like figure it out and they didn't want it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You don't mean like, they're pretty rare to have four singles matches on a card at Corrigan.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like regardless of who it is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the online matches were better than these two.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They lasted longer.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The combination of these two matches went 10 minutes and the combination of the young wide matches went almost like 17 minutes total pretty rough.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, after that we had the never open way now here now the show picks up because the next two matches are terrific.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Next two matches are terrific.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Never wrote away six man tag team title match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Harogi Goro Yoshihashi and Bolton, they face champions, Hartley Jackson,

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[SPEAKER_01]: This match was excellent.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I recommend you go back and watch it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: My issue here, Jeremy, is not the action.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The action is terrific.

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[SPEAKER_01]: My issue is the booking again.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think we are just seeing some more of those new Japan bad habits here, because in the match itself, terrific wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Bolton did the gut wrenches on Hartley.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Wow, that is a strong dude, which we knew anyway, but just seeing him do the gut wrenches on Hartley Jackson.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was a lot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And in the end, though, it was the showdown with Bishop on added in the splash from Bolton at the same time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: First of all, TMDK, one and done, so they win the titles, the rest of Kingdom, and then immediately lose them like a week or so, 10 days later, whatever it is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: These titles don't matter.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If they were going to do this though, why not have B-Shaman win it in the dome?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Why not have B-Shaman and Bolton win it in the dome?

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[SPEAKER_01]: The TMDK could have challenged, and it would have been a legitimate challenge.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They were the last two left, and then they could have just said, well, we want a shot one-on-one, and instead of in this schmazz of a terrible match at wrestling kingdom, and it could have been a really good match, and the defense that may have looked like, oh, well, they won the title of wrestling, and now they've beaten

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[SPEAKER_01]: three man teams in the whole company, maybe we got something here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Instead, they beat OEWA again, you know, which you got heartly in the mash to beat OEWA.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then again, we're just throwing around title belts.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just more of the bad habits of this title doesn't matter.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, the fans have picked up on that haven't they?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because nobody's showing it out and that's a couple of good and they were there for the guys in it, but the title itself feel pretty secondary.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Have you seen the matches that have been made for the first and the second?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they're going to do a series of singles matches with these teams against each other.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's going to be Jackson versus Bolton.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to be Goto versus OEWA.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's going to be Zach versus Yoshi Hashie.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you can probably figure out why those matchups are just going to win what?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Would it really surprise you if we would beat Goto in that match?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right now, there's no consistency in anything here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So if he did, I mean, they damaged a way with so much.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not even sure that would help him all that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The backstage comments and all this really have me believing that, you know, oh, we were demanding the single batch with Goto.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he believed that he is going to beat him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, we was the guy in a lot of this that I think people shouldn't

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, like we talked about you, we talked about RAN, we talked about Shota, but we was got something that they don't have, and it's just like that brawler mentality kind of thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I...

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think they're the real opportunity in the next couple of weeks to give him his shine by beating Godo, who, by Frank was speaking, he got his title run, but they're using that to elevate other people now rather than to keep him protected.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So if they're going to do that, they might as well do it with OUA in the singles match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, why beat him in this one, though?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he got heartly there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Why beat OE on this?

01:00:30.196 --> 01:00:33.841
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just like, so, so many unforced errors from this company.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just, you know, they just make him look like a puts again.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They, they, they win the title.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And again, they can't hold on to it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He was trying to take him down.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He did, they did the, they did the showdo or whatever, with all the bone smashing him.

01:00:45.240 --> 01:00:46.482
[SPEAKER_00]: And then they did the GTR.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: It took one move to put him down.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It took the three guys and then like go to putting the finishing touch on it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So the first one's going to be Bolton versus Jackson.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can figure out Bolton's going to win that.

01:00:59.793 --> 01:01:02.078
[SPEAKER_01]: And then it's going to be Zach versus Yoshi Hashie.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So then he figures Zach's going to win that one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's one on one going into the last one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll preview all that as we get closer to the dates because we have next week to do that too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I ended up like, you wonder what the logic is, maybe it's trying to get, you know, the parody booking where the parody booking at the end has that we were going over.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't agree with parody booking, but it's so common nowadays that you just have to figure it into the equation.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it doesn't friggin work.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's no evidence, the parody.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Zero evidence, the parody booking works.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I like to get a surgery doesn't get parody booking that due to the winner, you know, like that why he's looking the way he'll get right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: By the way, one of the things they're trying to get Jake Lee to antagonize Suji into giving him a title match, which would manifest itself the next day.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So he did beat down Suji a little bit after that match between United Empire and show to the government, put him in what like a funeral or a profession pose or exactly that's right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they did a little bit of that.

01:02:00.096 --> 01:02:03.260
[SPEAKER_01]: And so then we had the number one contendership match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Show to Umino and Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu

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[SPEAKER_01]: So when the young lines made their comeback, there was a little bit of subtext to that, really well done, good drama throughout the match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I recommend everybody going back and watching this one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a long one, it's a half an hour long, but it is worth the time and it does not feel like a half hour long.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And um, you know, we ended up winning the whole thing with the second chapter before we go into the post match stuff, which is significant.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There are things said here that could end up being important.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Jeremy talked to us about this one

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[SPEAKER_01]: love.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So this is one of those chain wrestling style matches where everything just kind of led into the next thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, did we're four pros with, you know, Frank was speaking, you're being the young gun in this entire thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And if you're thinking about it like that, you know, it's like you've got some real experience in this match.

01:03:17.665 --> 01:03:20.529
[SPEAKER_01]: And so like you showed us the youngest, but I know you mean yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but like you have the one with the the the least amount of time in the New Japan ring for after excursion and all that with you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, fair enough.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you think about last year at this time Shota was cutting his hair and getting his ass kicked by Great O'Con and you, you wasn't even back yet from the elbow injury.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you're seeing them here and you're seeing kind of like the restart of their run.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And this is

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is basically with that mission statement match where you have the gatekeeping older guys that want that title shot.

01:03:54.919 --> 01:04:00.304
[SPEAKER_00]: You have the young guns that like have lost to the tight, the champions a couple of times and are fighting for it back.

01:04:00.845 --> 01:04:05.710
[SPEAKER_00]: And then you have a match where the consequences of getting a title shot mean is something.

01:04:06.150 --> 01:04:13.238
[SPEAKER_00]: These guys are fighting tooth and nail for 30 minutes, you know, breaking up pin.

01:04:13.218 --> 01:04:22.808
[SPEAKER_00]: blooding faces all of the tag team maneuver that you don't typically see from these guys creativity and synergy.

01:04:24.590 --> 01:04:40.947
[SPEAKER_00]: It reminds me a lot of FTR matches with really good opponents where you know you just have a really strong two really strong set partners that are working with each other and they are just laying it in to the other team.

01:04:40.927 --> 01:04:42.089
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I'm like, this is it.

01:04:42.149 --> 01:04:44.053
[SPEAKER_00]: This is an incredibly physical match.

01:04:45.035 --> 01:04:49.082
[SPEAKER_00]: She already coming in with the busted nose and about 15 minutes in.

01:04:49.122 --> 01:05:00.724
[SPEAKER_00]: He's breathing gallons of air through his mouths because his nose is bloody through and he's still going at 55 miles an hour.

01:05:00.704 --> 01:05:03.588
[SPEAKER_00]: These guys gave no quarter to each other.

01:05:03.949 --> 01:05:05.792
[SPEAKER_00]: They received no quarter from each other.

01:05:06.272 --> 01:05:24.319
[SPEAKER_00]: And when the 30 minutes of this action was over, the respect that everybody had for each other was just like, you guys like, showed a new year where like, you guys lost, but we need you in New Japan because the competition that you provide is what makes this place go.

01:05:24.359 --> 01:05:29.867
[SPEAKER_00]: And then you're going to talk about their backstage,

01:05:30.505 --> 01:05:35.155
[SPEAKER_00]: This is the kind of match that I need more of in 2026 in New Japan.

01:05:35.676 --> 01:05:37.119
[SPEAKER_00]: This is a strong style.

01:05:37.219 --> 01:05:39.224
[SPEAKER_00]: This is what we're talking about here.

01:05:39.244 --> 01:05:42.932
[SPEAKER_00]: What it's like, we're here for these matches.

01:05:43.052 --> 01:05:44.455
[SPEAKER_00]: This is what I'm talking about.

01:05:44.515 --> 01:05:46.860
[SPEAKER_00]: This is what got me into New Japan.

01:05:48.275 --> 01:05:56.791
[SPEAKER_01]: So afterwards, Tahichi shook hands and hugged each of them, and each he, of course, stayed in character and laughed, he didn't stick around.

01:05:57.332 --> 01:05:58.855
[SPEAKER_01]: But that's not really his thing.

01:05:58.875 --> 01:06:02.782
[SPEAKER_01]: Tahichi, more of the mentor, really putting the guys over with handshakes and hugs.

01:06:03.784 --> 01:06:08.372
[SPEAKER_01]: And Uimura got on the microphone and said that he's been very frustrated by the losses.

01:06:08.813 --> 01:06:10.536
[SPEAKER_01]: He's sick and tired of losing.

01:06:10.516 --> 01:06:20.188
[SPEAKER_01]: And he asked, showed of, he was sick and tired of it as he was and then basically went nose to nose for show to sort of visually challenging showed it.

01:06:20.208 --> 01:06:21.850
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, do you have it to step up?

01:06:21.931 --> 01:06:22.992
[SPEAKER_01]: You got what it takes to step up.

01:06:23.012 --> 01:06:23.653
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

01:06:23.673 --> 01:06:27.518
[SPEAKER_01]: Umano then gets on the microphone said he's tired of being laughed at and booed.

01:06:28.139 --> 01:06:32.003
[SPEAKER_01]: He's pissed off and the old loser showed to Umano, his words.

01:06:32.684 --> 01:06:39.493
[SPEAKER_01]: The called himself a loser ends here today at Corkon and it's going to be something new going

01:06:39.473 --> 01:06:42.558
[SPEAKER_01]: Here's the thing Jeremy, that's all fine and good.

01:06:42.878 --> 01:06:43.960
[SPEAKER_01]: This match was excellent.

01:06:44.320 --> 01:06:45.902
[SPEAKER_01]: It was a really, really good match.

01:06:46.343 --> 01:06:55.056
[SPEAKER_01]: The people did not pay to see it and somehow in one of the biggest population centers on earth, they could barely get a thousand people to show up for this thing.

01:06:55.076 --> 01:06:57.139
[SPEAKER_01]: They are not draws the crowd.

01:06:57.159 --> 01:06:58.922
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, not, there's not believe in them.

01:06:59.082 --> 01:06:59.823
[SPEAKER_01]: Here's what's here.

01:06:59.883 --> 01:07:00.604
[SPEAKER_01]: Here's the thing.

01:07:01.343 --> 01:07:16.332
[SPEAKER_01]: either uminno and oi more i need to win these titles from udo ice and asker or one of them needs to turn on the other young one of those two things anything else is unacceptable because if they lose again and just do that

01:07:17.088 --> 01:07:17.809
[SPEAKER_01]: blend.

01:07:18.509 --> 01:07:22.052
[SPEAKER_01]: Nobody believes a horse crap of I am going to use this as motivated.

01:07:22.072 --> 01:07:29.639
[SPEAKER_00]: It would come back to everything that is happening is right back to where we were the Ford, the Tonahosha retirement.

01:07:29.839 --> 01:07:38.026
[SPEAKER_00]: It would have just been, you know, a smoke and mirror exercise in booking just to kind of test the water rather than a commitment and moving forward.

01:07:38.427 --> 01:07:46.774
[SPEAKER_00]: The reality is, show to Eumano and you, Eumara have never won a title in New Japan for a

01:07:47.564 --> 01:08:09.451
[SPEAKER_00]: uh, the knockout brothers, they don't need to keep the titles right now, but if they were to keep the titles, they're needed to be a cataclysmic like circumstance in which this break one of these two guys, you know, it's like, you don't do a promo like this and don't have any culture clubs either they win or they lose their god damn life.

01:08:10.432 --> 01:08:16.660
[SPEAKER_00]: And if you don't get one of those reactions prior to the new

01:08:17.011 --> 01:08:21.196
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, really one of these guys ought to turn heal them when the news back up.

01:08:21.216 --> 01:08:29.384
[SPEAKER_01]: That really should be what happens to, or they win or they win and become the tag champs and stop fricking losing.

01:08:29.805 --> 01:08:31.587
[SPEAKER_01]: But anything else is unacceptable.

01:08:31.607 --> 01:08:43.660
[SPEAKER_00]: The entire mission statement this year needs to be creating viable challenges for Yoda Fuji for him to go through so that when they're at the guy at the end of the G1 or at the end of wrestling next year,

01:08:43.640 --> 01:08:49.948
[SPEAKER_00]: She can lose a drop of title and make the next guy and then create like a dynasty of challenger back and forth.

01:08:50.429 --> 01:08:51.851
[SPEAKER_00]: But right now you need to create a guy.

01:08:52.071 --> 01:08:53.112
[SPEAKER_00]: You have Yoda Fuji.

01:08:53.533 --> 01:08:55.816
[SPEAKER_00]: And now you need to create a bunch of challenger right now.

01:08:56.236 --> 01:08:57.278
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't see any challengers.

01:08:58.059 --> 01:08:59.440
[SPEAKER_00]: So where do we go from there?

01:09:00.121 --> 01:09:02.064
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think they're they're brewing some up.

01:09:02.104 --> 01:09:05.768
[SPEAKER_01]: And if you look at the card at new beginning, you know who the next one is.

01:09:06.089 --> 01:09:07.791
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, but like.

01:09:08.716 --> 01:09:12.423
[SPEAKER_00]: You could only do Jake Lee once or twice after that.

01:09:12.524 --> 01:09:20.940
[SPEAKER_00]: You're either going to need shoulder or you as being one of those guys that people are going to be clamoring for down the line and catch up for it's going to be it's going to be Newman.

01:09:21.221 --> 01:09:24.227
[SPEAKER_01]: He's got the special singles match that he's going to win earlier in the night.

01:09:24.882 --> 01:09:30.110
[SPEAKER_00]: At some point, you know, like before he's by the end of the new beginning and the new beginning he's out there.

01:09:30.130 --> 01:09:45.574
[SPEAKER_00]: I hear you, but I'm saying it's like going into Dominion who's going to be the Yota Suji opponent going to like post you one right you you're not going to have Jake Lee you're not going to have Calvin and you're not going to have evil, you know, like the house the bulk of guys.

01:09:45.554 --> 01:09:49.250
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, at some point, Yoda, Suji, and Shota Umenos can happen.

01:09:49.290 --> 01:09:52.363
[SPEAKER_00]: At some point, Yoda, Suji, and New York, where Mura is gonna happen.

01:09:52.383 --> 01:09:55.817
[SPEAKER_00]: The only question is who's gonna be the heel and who's gonna be the baby face?

01:09:56.033 --> 01:10:05.544
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and so let's get some comments because some people have some interesting things to say about this one Jordan from Canada mentions that oh we will and ice have great heat in chemistry.

01:10:05.564 --> 01:10:06.085
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they do.

01:10:06.145 --> 01:10:08.027
[SPEAKER_01]: I think those two are going to be right right.

01:10:08.448 --> 01:10:10.350
[SPEAKER_01]: I keep my frustration with pinning.

01:10:10.410 --> 01:10:12.212
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, he was because I really like the guy.

01:10:12.292 --> 01:10:15.236
[SPEAKER_01]: I just think it's it's time to do more with them.

01:10:15.296 --> 01:10:18.620
[SPEAKER_01]: So please don't take that as is me saying anything other than I think.

01:10:18.700 --> 01:10:20.762
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, he was should be treated better.

01:10:20.782 --> 01:10:22.945
[SPEAKER_01]: He says, but anyway, back to Jordan.

01:10:22.965 --> 01:10:24.927
[SPEAKER_01]: He says, I love contrast and backgrounds and

01:10:24.907 --> 01:10:26.370
[SPEAKER_01]: up bringing and they certainly have that.

01:10:26.931 --> 01:10:28.754
[SPEAKER_01]: Though I feel there may be some mutual respect.

01:10:29.014 --> 01:10:29.635
[SPEAKER_01]: I think so too.

01:10:29.655 --> 01:10:31.959
[SPEAKER_01]: I think those two really do work well together.

01:10:32.741 --> 01:10:43.219
[SPEAKER_01]: And they have gone off a little bit on each other about their backgrounds because, you know, Nakashima was, you know, you know, ice was not from a good background at the beginning.

01:10:43.199 --> 01:10:53.649
[SPEAKER_01]: did not behave himself very well, whereas you get the idea that OE was the equivalent of the homecoming king, and the, you know, the goody two shoes a bit of a guy, and a little more privileged.

01:10:53.689 --> 01:10:58.714
[SPEAKER_01]: This is family had, it was a, did a little better, as far as money goes, then you use.

01:10:58.734 --> 01:11:01.997
[SPEAKER_01]: So, you, you, you tell us, you just, so you get all that.

01:11:02.818 --> 01:11:09.544
[SPEAKER_01]: And turn, mentions, do the people even have their minds open to cheer, show to again, the guy feels cursed even if they

01:11:09.524 --> 01:11:10.810
[SPEAKER_00]: him in that tag match.

01:11:11.212 --> 01:11:11.835
[SPEAKER_00]: I could hear him.

01:11:11.936 --> 01:11:17.644
[SPEAKER_00]: I could hear that crowd yelling Shota and and Taiichi looking around like, oh, you're getting a cheer, huh?

01:11:18.502 --> 01:11:25.833
[SPEAKER_01]: I just, yeah, it's a, it's a challenge though, because he has failed so many times because of booking, because of booking.

01:11:25.893 --> 01:11:26.634
[SPEAKER_01]: He's a good wrestler.

01:11:26.654 --> 01:11:27.475
[SPEAKER_01]: We saw the match.

01:11:27.496 --> 01:11:28.858
[SPEAKER_01]: These guys could wrestle their asses off.

01:11:29.338 --> 01:11:44.982
[SPEAKER_01]: The booking has made these two so weak by having them come up short time and time again and then just having them do that lame, young lioness promos, just like, I'm gonna take this and let, if you lose constantly and then you step up and say, I'm going to lead Hunter into the future.

01:11:45.022 --> 01:11:47.125
[SPEAKER_01]: The fans are just gonna be like,

01:11:47.105 --> 01:11:50.191
[SPEAKER_01]: You can't trip over your ship and over your own shoelaces constantly.

01:11:50.392 --> 01:11:51.274
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what's got to stop.

01:11:51.675 --> 01:11:53.218
[SPEAKER_01]: The talent is absolutely there.

01:11:53.458 --> 01:11:57.988
[SPEAKER_01]: And some of the other things, Jordan says the curious case to show to Umano, I like him personally.

01:11:58.609 --> 01:12:03.359
[SPEAKER_01]: And he says, did you guys enjoy the period where he was lost and shaved his head and had some edge?

01:12:03.679 --> 01:12:06.345
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I absolutely loved that it went to nothing.

01:12:06.646 --> 01:12:09.812
[SPEAKER_01]: well, yeah, it should have been better than it was.

01:12:09.872 --> 01:12:11.014
[SPEAKER_01]: It was something.

01:12:11.054 --> 01:12:11.835
[SPEAKER_01]: It was something.

01:12:11.856 --> 01:12:14.881
[SPEAKER_01]: And then they he just grew his hair back like it hadn't happened.

01:12:14.901 --> 01:12:16.103
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like they dropped the whole thing.

01:12:16.925 --> 01:12:22.896
[SPEAKER_01]: I was excited about it when it happened because I just thought, okay, now we're going to re-watch the dude.

01:12:22.916 --> 01:12:25.220
[SPEAKER_01]: And instead he ended up just doing the exact same stuff.

01:12:25.240 --> 01:12:26.622
[SPEAKER_01]: Again, it was really killed them here.

01:12:26.723 --> 01:12:27.364
[SPEAKER_01]: It was really bad.

01:12:27.825 --> 01:12:29.127
[SPEAKER_01]: And he said, uh,

01:12:29.478 --> 01:12:36.493
[SPEAKER_01]: And it was the last time, and then turn it, just as I think the last time I cared for shoulders when he had a dynamic with mocks, that was the last time the crowd was into him.

01:12:37.496 --> 01:12:47.057
[SPEAKER_01]: Because he was the plucky underdog guy, kind of hanging around with a guy who was a pseudo-bad influence, and he was giving you, he was giving shoulder a bit of an edge.

01:12:47.578 --> 01:12:48.600
[SPEAKER_01]: But this,

01:12:48.580 --> 01:12:56.912
[SPEAKER_01]: Tana Hashi, light water down a Mealy mouth version of showed it, just annoyed everybody, including showed it.

01:12:56.932 --> 01:13:09.930
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, we might be circling not a clip again because they're turning mockly baby face in AEW and if they turn a show to heal in New Japan, it could be time.

01:13:11.463 --> 01:13:17.129
[SPEAKER_01]: Nick mentioned that you to ice already feels like he has a generational rival to everybody else.

01:13:17.149 --> 01:13:19.031
[SPEAKER_01]: He has a built-in spec story with all of them.

01:13:19.531 --> 01:13:24.076
[SPEAKER_00]: He's a professional bad guy that I think this company need right now.

01:13:24.577 --> 01:13:32.885
[SPEAKER_00]: I think eventually he's going to get cheered but right now I think he's the catalyst for people to rise up against.

01:13:33.466 --> 01:13:35.908
[SPEAKER_01]: He's just such a great contrast to them also.

01:13:35.968 --> 01:13:37.690
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean you've got the whole thing with

01:13:38.446 --> 01:13:48.552
[SPEAKER_01]: Omeno, Oemora and Owewa all look like they could be contestants on a reality show to try to be a good guy, pro wrestler, you know, they have great builds.

01:13:49.033 --> 01:13:53.485
[SPEAKER_01]: They have the hair and the, you know, they've,

01:13:53.465 --> 01:14:21.649
[SPEAKER_01]: they wrestle well and they do all the things right they say all the things about wanting to take new Japan to new heights and they and you those over sitting that he looks like he's out of shape although he isn't right he's he doesn't he doesn't have that body he's got this attitude that he picked up both from them being a bit of a miscrant on the streets of Japan and then he tapped into that culture that kind of a underground culture in England a bit the counter culture in England

01:14:21.629 --> 01:14:28.442
[SPEAKER_01]: And while there, I mean, he's, you know, there's pictures of him like, you know, drinking a beer and smoking a cigarette with his buddies when he's a teenager.

01:14:28.883 --> 01:14:36.958
[SPEAKER_01]: Whereas like, oh, you always get the idea that oh, we, uh, um, and oh, we're being shuttled to their private coaches at the academy.

01:14:36.998 --> 01:14:39.182
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm all driving for speaking out of turn.

01:14:39.162 --> 01:14:43.166
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, well, you know, is taking a leak on the building that they're working out in.

01:14:43.306 --> 01:14:45.689
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, that's always the dynamic.

01:14:45.709 --> 01:14:46.389
[SPEAKER_01]: We have them.

01:14:46.409 --> 01:14:47.651
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's such a great contrast.

01:14:47.671 --> 01:14:48.311
[SPEAKER_01]: It really works.

01:14:48.552 --> 01:14:52.796
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's Machabay and Tanahashi, right?

01:14:52.976 --> 01:14:57.621
[SPEAKER_01]: And Machabay, the unshamed gorilla versus the, you know, the perfect breakdown of the middle.

01:14:58.102 --> 01:14:59.823
[SPEAKER_01]: Take pictures with your kids, baby face.

01:14:59.883 --> 01:15:01.745
[SPEAKER_01]: It's the back contrast, always helps.

01:15:02.246 --> 01:15:03.387
[SPEAKER_01]: It's helped to have that contrast.

01:15:03.407 --> 01:15:06.250
[SPEAKER_01]: It's another thing that showed it and

01:15:06.230 --> 01:15:12.706
[SPEAKER_01]: don't have right now is that contrast, which is why one of them needs to turn on the other, but don't waste more time with these guys.

01:15:13.267 --> 01:15:14.511
[SPEAKER_01]: We're more as 30 years old.

01:15:15.192 --> 01:15:16.917
[SPEAKER_01]: Showed us going to turn 29 this year.

01:15:17.157 --> 01:15:19.142
[SPEAKER_01]: They're too old to be young talent.

01:15:19.544 --> 01:15:20.165
[SPEAKER_01]: got to go.

01:15:21.006 --> 01:15:27.132
[SPEAKER_00]: Speaking of not wasting time, did you catch how much time in in-ring that the second night in Corchin actually had?

01:15:27.693 --> 01:15:31.317
[SPEAKER_00]: She had an over an hour of in-ring time for the entire card.

01:15:32.998 --> 01:15:34.840
[SPEAKER_01]: And 1200 showed up for this one.

01:15:35.161 --> 01:15:37.323
[SPEAKER_01]: So a little bit better than the night before, but not good.

01:15:38.284 --> 01:15:40.767
[SPEAKER_01]: To give you an idea, someone asked earlier about how startup is doing.

01:15:40.787 --> 01:15:41.027
[SPEAKER_01]: Start.

01:15:41.047 --> 01:15:43.830
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm putting about 14 to 1500 in there every single time.

01:15:43.810 --> 01:15:44.571
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you very much.

01:15:44.972 --> 01:15:50.842
[SPEAKER_01]: And so we're the other companies, by the way, all of Japan's doing that, Noah's doing that, you know, the only company that's not thriving, right?

01:15:50.922 --> 01:15:52.184
[SPEAKER_01]: How is our own New Japan?

01:15:52.224 --> 01:15:52.745
[SPEAKER_01]: Come on, guys.

01:15:53.065 --> 01:15:54.007
[SPEAKER_01]: Get your crap together.

01:15:54.267 --> 01:15:56.170
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not the pro wrestling industry in Japan.

01:15:56.411 --> 01:15:57.032
[SPEAKER_01]: It's you.

01:15:57.593 --> 01:15:58.915
[SPEAKER_01]: You're the problem, New Japan.

01:15:59.416 --> 01:16:06.608
[SPEAKER_01]: And we are rooting for you to get out of this Marass because there are wrestling fans that if you give them something to watch, they'll show up for it.

01:16:06.768 --> 01:16:07.489
[SPEAKER_01]: Now.

01:16:07.942 --> 01:16:26.043
[SPEAKER_01]: Second night at Cork and Took Place, and there was some good action on this one, but you know, the young line cup, we mentioned Chuck, so Show Makato beat the less experienced Mestoriasa with an arm bar, Kato survived a long Boston Krabs, but to win that one.

01:16:26.363 --> 01:16:35.974
[SPEAKER_01]: And then he will go on to the finals to face Katsuyama Rashima, who defeated Nadekina Guy, tough couple days from the guy, gets blistered in a chair and just kind of gets

01:16:35.954 --> 01:17:05.758
[SPEAKER_01]: Punted into the semi-finals and then loses some Hiroshima and the story really was that Nagai couldn't take him That he was always cut off by Hiroshima's power and his strength and really he was pretty ineffective against him So Hiroshima vs. Keto that's that's the two most experienced young lions both of them were talking about wanting to win and go on excursion We'll find out on February 1st how that had even

01:17:06.278 --> 01:17:07.868
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god.

01:17:09.164 --> 01:17:10.085
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll walk right into it.

01:17:10.445 --> 01:17:18.575
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, then we have, it's speaking of, show to Umano, so the next batch, I don't know why this happened.

01:17:19.616 --> 01:17:24.101
[SPEAKER_01]: It was the knockout brothers, I'll ask her and I, they face show to Umano and Tetsuya Matsumoto.

01:17:25.042 --> 01:17:30.789
[SPEAKER_01]: You watch more, you're standing there on the outside, doing absolutely nothing, looking like a puts.

01:17:30.809 --> 01:17:32.791
[SPEAKER_01]: Show to Umano doesn't do anything in the match.

01:17:32.851 --> 01:17:38.057
[SPEAKER_01]: I think you got knocked off the apron, then they beat the living hell out of Matsumoto and beat him in one minute, one, two, three, four, three, four,

01:17:38.510 --> 01:17:44.048
[SPEAKER_01]: could not have made Umano and Uemora look like bigger yetsas just.

01:17:44.838 --> 01:18:11.487
[SPEAKER_00]: I appreciate that they just gave Doc and brother for squash match and you know like they found some scenario when they like they could make it work and it's like you we mirror within Care up in the town of Hashi ponytail like at ringside and show to the window can't catch a break every time you get to call the ring a for you to get kicked right off by Oscar and they murder Matt's moto and I'm like You know what they don't do it often, but I'm here for it.

01:18:11.973 --> 01:18:12.696
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that was not.

01:18:12.736 --> 01:18:14.662
[SPEAKER_01]: That was just like, could you make the challenges look worse?

01:18:15.084 --> 01:18:20.262
[SPEAKER_01]: And make this mess is the most knockout brothers are obligated to wrestle at one of these Corican shows match Everbook.

01:18:20.478 --> 01:18:22.501
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it was, it was an off-knight for everybody.

01:18:23.683 --> 01:18:27.208
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's see, turn, as I wonder how much management is affecting the product.

01:18:27.268 --> 01:18:32.517
[SPEAKER_01]: I remember snippets from Kevin Kelly's podcast where he talked negatively about ownership.

01:18:33.097 --> 01:18:37.384
[SPEAKER_01]: I think everybody's wondering that and just where their heads are in a lot of this stuff.

01:18:37.564 --> 01:18:47.700
[SPEAKER_01]: And you're right, there have been some anecdotes that have come from that that makes you think that there are indeed people at Bushy Road overseeing this company that don't quite understand the wrestling side of it.

01:18:47.680 --> 01:18:50.548
[SPEAKER_00]: like Kevin Kelly doesn't think he's ever working for the company ever again.

01:18:52.172 --> 01:18:53.816
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't think we have to worry about that.

01:18:53.836 --> 01:18:55.240
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know Kevin needs to.

01:18:55.260 --> 01:18:58.348
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think Kevin needs to worry about his updating his passport to go to Japan to you.

01:19:02.218 --> 01:19:04.103
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, well, anyway.

01:19:04.640 --> 01:19:05.361
[SPEAKER_01]: I know that.

01:19:05.841 --> 01:19:06.402
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, nothing.

01:19:06.482 --> 01:19:06.642
[SPEAKER_01]: There.

01:19:06.702 --> 01:19:06.962
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

01:19:07.743 --> 01:19:07.984
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's see.

01:19:08.004 --> 01:19:08.804
[SPEAKER_01]: What else do we have there?

01:19:08.824 --> 01:19:09.005
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

01:19:09.125 --> 01:19:10.967
[SPEAKER_01]: Then there was a eight man tag.

01:19:11.687 --> 01:19:14.751
[SPEAKER_01]: We added a Death Valley driver to Aaron Wolf's list.

01:19:14.771 --> 01:19:15.351
[SPEAKER_01]: Not bad.

01:19:16.232 --> 01:19:16.332
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:19:16.352 --> 01:19:20.036
[SPEAKER_01]: But again, a lot of this stuff is just pretty basic preview tag.

01:19:20.597 --> 01:19:21.057
[SPEAKER_01]: Chingo.

01:19:21.958 --> 01:19:22.979
[SPEAKER_00]: You want you want.

01:19:23.140 --> 01:19:24.241
[SPEAKER_00]: Here's a little note.

01:19:24.361 --> 01:19:25.542
[SPEAKER_00]: You're a little historical note.

01:19:26.283 --> 01:19:28.285
[SPEAKER_00]: This may be evil glass match in each bed.

01:19:29.665 --> 01:19:31.367
[SPEAKER_01]: Could turn out that way, could turn out that way.

01:19:31.427 --> 01:19:31.828
[SPEAKER_01]: Be weird.

01:19:31.848 --> 01:19:33.670
[SPEAKER_00]: Other than the other match card going on.

01:19:33.690 --> 01:19:34.491
[SPEAKER_01]: Let me read if it were.

01:19:35.072 --> 01:19:37.294
[SPEAKER_00]: But don't get it, just I'm serimotically.

01:19:38.075 --> 01:19:40.298
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and very much not much a part of this one.

01:19:40.578 --> 01:19:47.046
[SPEAKER_01]: And again, they, there was a little bit more work by the way on Shinko Takagi and United Empires stuff.

01:19:47.888 --> 01:19:50.631
[SPEAKER_01]: They, they worked the ribs, which makes me even more sure.

01:19:51.212 --> 01:19:59.622
[SPEAKER_01]: It was a work injury and not a knee that went wrong the day before because most of this match was impounding away at the very area that you away.

01:20:00.445 --> 01:20:13.207
[SPEAKER_00]: This actually is like kind of something that I need to point out, in which the black and white lion mark was used for only the most serious things.

01:20:13.607 --> 01:20:15.150
[SPEAKER_00]: But we're not fucking with you.

01:20:15.190 --> 01:20:17.734
[SPEAKER_00]: This is a bad news situation.

01:20:18.295 --> 01:20:19.838
[SPEAKER_00]: But since Godo

01:20:19.818 --> 01:20:28.718
[SPEAKER_00]: got injured last year and they wrote them off for the Street Fighter movie and now they're using the black white white mark for this worked injury for Schingo.

01:20:29.119 --> 01:20:38.080
[SPEAKER_00]: You just need to change your mentality and your perspective on how they use that because they are clearly not treating it the way that they did two years ago.

01:20:38.498 --> 01:20:40.581
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it can be K-F-A-B-K-F-A.

01:20:40.601 --> 01:20:41.402
[SPEAKER_01]: It can be K-F-A.

01:20:41.442 --> 01:20:42.843
[SPEAKER_01]: Just keep that in mind going forward.

01:20:42.884 --> 01:20:43.604
[SPEAKER_01]: It's worth mentioning.

01:20:43.624 --> 01:20:43.825
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:20:44.446 --> 01:20:47.129
[SPEAKER_01]: And then we have the Junior Heavyweight Tag Team title match.

01:20:47.509 --> 01:20:48.270
[SPEAKER_01]: This was a good match.

01:20:48.791 --> 01:20:50.894
[SPEAKER_01]: Not, not the greatest, but it was good.

01:20:50.914 --> 01:20:51.234
[SPEAKER_01]: It was fine.

01:20:51.735 --> 01:20:52.215
[SPEAKER_01]: It was fine.

01:20:52.275 --> 01:20:52.656
[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.

01:20:52.736 --> 01:20:58.824
[SPEAKER_01]: Jose Fujian and Robbie Eagles against House of torture that being show and Yoshinobu Kanemaro in this instance.

01:20:59.344 --> 01:21:02.228
[SPEAKER_01]: Not too much House of

01:21:02.208 --> 01:21:04.071
[SPEAKER_01]: it was coming just not in this match.

01:21:05.093 --> 01:21:07.377
[SPEAKER_01]: TMDK were portrayed as strong champions here.

01:21:07.417 --> 01:21:09.360
[SPEAKER_01]: This is what I took away from the though Jeremy.

01:21:09.380 --> 01:21:09.781
[SPEAKER_01]: They won.

01:21:10.382 --> 01:21:13.688
[SPEAKER_01]: They hit their big finisher, which I'm blanking on the name of it now.

01:21:13.908 --> 01:21:14.849
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, what's the throw right?

01:21:14.930 --> 01:21:16.031
[SPEAKER_01]: The throw right?

01:21:16.052 --> 01:21:17.053
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a throw.

01:21:17.614 --> 01:21:21.060
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, terrific move and yeah throw right.

01:21:21.901 --> 01:21:28.851
[SPEAKER_01]: This felt to me more that Eagles and Fujita are strong champions.

01:21:28.871 --> 01:21:33.457
[SPEAKER_01]: And this is no longer a situation where we have an overachieving young lion.

01:21:34.058 --> 01:21:35.420
[SPEAKER_01]: We're we're done with that part of it.

01:21:35.440 --> 01:21:43.111
[SPEAKER_01]: Kosef Fujita is just a legit champion, he's a champion level wrestler now.

01:21:43.151 --> 01:21:45.474
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's not like, wow, look at what this young lion is doing.

01:21:45.515 --> 01:21:47.758
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, no, these guys won the titles.

01:21:48.138 --> 01:21:51.503
[SPEAKER_01]: They had a challenger, they outright wrestled them and beat them.

01:21:51.618 --> 01:21:58.848
[SPEAKER_01]: And this is not some underdog thing where Fuji had to wrestle from the bottom and overcome and get a miracle shot to win it.

01:21:59.629 --> 01:22:04.496
[SPEAKER_01]: These guys had decisive victory against people that have been in this title picture.

01:22:04.536 --> 01:22:09.363
[SPEAKER_01]: So to me, that was to take away from here is that, you know, Fuji is we knew he was legit.

01:22:09.383 --> 01:22:10.424
[SPEAKER_01]: We knew he was talented.

01:22:10.685 --> 01:22:20.258
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm talking about his portrayal in the booking, not an overshitting,

01:22:20.238 --> 01:22:29.091
[SPEAKER_00]: He has yet to achieve the glory, they're treating him as if no, this guy is as good as he says he is.

01:22:30.273 --> 01:22:35.620
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and I think Nick Reeves kind of captures it nicely here, but this is a good good contrast to what's coming next.

01:22:35.901 --> 01:22:41.689
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a distinct difference between HOT cheating matches and HOT interference matches for him.

01:22:41.669 --> 01:22:46.960
[SPEAKER_01]: Nick says, I think the cheating matches, which are closer to normal matches work far better.

01:22:47.081 --> 01:22:47.782
[SPEAKER_01]: I agree with that.

01:22:47.922 --> 01:22:55.038
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a lot of the Gaga with the ref bumps and the interference from six people while the referee is barely distracted, that doesn't work.

01:22:55.899 --> 01:22:56.681
[SPEAKER_01]: This one did.

01:22:56.721 --> 01:22:58.224
[SPEAKER_01]: This one did a little bit more.

01:22:58.325 --> 01:22:58.986
[SPEAKER_01]: So.

01:22:59.590 --> 01:23:10.950
[SPEAKER_01]: The junior heavyweight title match, Doki and Elvis Barato went 16 and a half minutes that felt like 30, just like the match earlier the night before went 30 and felt like 15.

01:23:11.010 --> 01:23:11.872
[SPEAKER_01]: This was the opposite.

01:23:12.292 --> 01:23:20.787
[SPEAKER_01]: This was tons of House of Torture Crap and I was on to it immediately and not there were surprised, but Marty Asami was the ref and not Redviews.

01:23:20.807 --> 01:23:23.472
[SPEAKER_01]: So we're doing some bumping, we're doing some bumping.

01:23:23.452 --> 01:23:26.738
[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, this was a garbage.

01:23:26.758 --> 01:23:29.122
[SPEAKER_01]: This is just so much house torture crap.

01:23:29.142 --> 01:23:41.663
[SPEAKER_01]: They sent Aaron Wolfe out and Wato to get some baby face pops by beating him up a little bit, bouncing him around a little bit, bumping house torture, then each of them grabbing a headlock and walking out with them, which is completely believable.

01:23:41.643 --> 01:24:10.468
[SPEAKER_01]: But they got rid of all of them except they don't right because every time someone does that Another member of House of Georgia just comes down like two minutes later, and it was all for nothing Interference objects bunch of crap black mirror shot day break on it for two low blows, super like stay low not I've said this until I'm blown the faces used to be one of my favorite rival reason all in New Japan and now I just wins when it's coming up.

01:24:11.242 --> 01:24:24.076
[SPEAKER_01]: This was Rodden, and maybe from some of the comments that Doki and Desparado have made, there could be a mass versus mask match down the line, but I hope it's a weight on the line, because I don't want to see this anymore.

01:24:24.316 --> 01:24:28.721
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to see Desparado have to do bad matches like this anymore.

01:24:28.741 --> 01:24:40.894
[SPEAKER_00]: This has given me a snake bit of fused and crystal kingdom last year, and as much as we all dreamed of it being one of the coolest

01:24:41.600 --> 01:24:42.382
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's wrestling.

01:24:42.482 --> 01:24:43.365
[SPEAKER_00]: Sometimes it just doesn't work out.

01:24:44.368 --> 01:24:54.175
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and yeah, this I've been saying it so much that putting him in house the torture was just a terrible decision should have been in unaffiliated.

01:24:54.577 --> 01:25:00.445
[SPEAKER_00]: So, right, I got a batch of cars to run down for, I think, the first and the second for you, and then let's take a look.

01:25:00.465 --> 01:25:02.748
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I want to mention this though, the schedule.

01:25:02.848 --> 01:25:06.033
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not going to be on NJPW world, but they are touring this week.

01:25:06.493 --> 01:25:13.002
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, NJPW world is done for the month of January, but just so, you know, they're in the weekend.

01:25:13.022 --> 01:25:15.285
[SPEAKER_01]: They will be in Miyajima.

01:25:15.265 --> 01:25:38.134
[SPEAKER_01]: around the Hiroshima area for the big boat race and you see boat race as a sponsor and things and they're actually going to have a ring set up and they're going to do like three matches each day six man tags probably a lot of just a basic stuff but it's up part of the the big boat race in Miyajima and if you look on it at it online this is a big event.

01:25:38.114 --> 01:25:53.592
[SPEAKER_01]: uh... in the water out there and they have uh... boat race and different classes and different uh... competitions going on and it's sort of a weekend festival that uh... new Japan is uh... a part of and their sponsors and new Japan as well that's coming up usually excited that week we're going to figure out what we're going to talk about for ninety minutes

01:25:53.572 --> 01:26:08.091
[SPEAKER_01]: No, we're going to have plenty to preview because Wednesday, the 28th of BNAO Murray, Thursday, the 29th of BNAO Tuesday, now those aren't on NGPW World, but we will be previewing the first two days back in Corican Hall, God help us.

01:26:08.872 --> 01:26:15.040
[SPEAKER_01]: February 1st of Corican Hall, February 2nd of Corican Hall, Jeremy talked to us a little bit about what we are going to see.

01:26:15.020 --> 01:26:27.532
[SPEAKER_00]: So on February 1st, we're going to have the main event of Yoda Suji and if she more Aversus, Jake Lee and Francisco Kira, who have been seeing that they've been really setting up the Kira and if she more is a rivalry.

01:26:27.552 --> 01:26:32.083
[SPEAKER_00]: After that, we got Silly coming back and he will be tagging with

01:26:32.063 --> 01:26:36.611
[SPEAKER_00]: Heromo and our favorite one-dark tag team.

01:26:36.751 --> 01:26:38.695
[SPEAKER_00]: First of all, Jacob Austin Young and Carol Newman.

01:26:38.715 --> 01:26:40.678
[SPEAKER_00]: So that'll be fun for that one.

01:26:40.718 --> 01:26:53.380
[SPEAKER_00]: After that, we've got some House of Torture versus Hauntai with Aaron Wolfe, leading a group of Torayano, Yo, and Master Wado against Renderita, Yuturo Takahashi, Doki, and Diktogo.

01:26:53.360 --> 01:27:03.563
[SPEAKER_00]: Also on that car, we got Drillum Meloni, Dakey, Neguy, and Robbie X versus Henare, Great O'Con, and the newest member of the United Empire, Sanjay.

01:27:03.904 --> 01:27:09.095
[SPEAKER_00]: If you can hear my dog is going nuts and because you get real hungry and he has just cried.

01:27:09.135 --> 01:27:12.583
[SPEAKER_00]: So don't mind me, he's going to have to order with this appointment.

01:27:12.563 --> 01:27:12.803
[SPEAKER_00]: here.

01:27:13.864 --> 01:27:19.950
[SPEAKER_00]: For that, we got Goto, we got Yoshi Hashu, we got Boltonola, again, we got Ryosuke to Gucci versus TMDKs.

01:27:20.491 --> 01:27:42.233
[SPEAKER_00]: That's temperature in your real, hey, well, you uh, Hurley Jatsin and Jose Fugida, and then opening the card is Tiger Masks, Shota, and you, uh, versus the knockout brothers, and get a reminding us, once again, that the knockout brothers are with the unbound company, because they have literally done almost no coordination reminding us what group is there, so we ended with.

01:27:42.213 --> 01:27:47.152
[SPEAKER_00]: But if I had to guess, maybe I'd be affiliated with unbound company for two more.

01:27:47.172 --> 01:27:47.794
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I have to say.

01:27:48.357 --> 01:27:51.268
[SPEAKER_00]: And so, okay, on the second, then we have the young audience.

01:27:51.850 --> 01:27:52.573
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going up.

01:27:52.794 --> 01:27:52.954
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:27:53.035 --> 01:27:53.537
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:27:53.557 --> 01:27:53.657
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

01:27:53.789 --> 01:27:58.555
[SPEAKER_00]: So I think that is what it got, brush above or show McCotton.

01:27:58.575 --> 01:27:59.736
[SPEAKER_01]: Show McCotton.

01:28:00.237 --> 01:28:00.457
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:28:00.477 --> 01:28:00.997
[SPEAKER_00]: That's night.

01:28:01.118 --> 01:28:02.840
[SPEAKER_00]: We have the main event.

01:28:03.681 --> 01:28:07.305
[SPEAKER_00]: I believe it's Dodo versus Ray Hill, you are.

01:28:07.345 --> 01:28:11.570
[SPEAKER_00]: And honestly, I'm really excited for this one patch.

01:28:11.630 --> 01:28:13.232
[SPEAKER_00]: More than any of the other matches.

01:28:13.252 --> 01:28:14.854
[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to be a good match.

01:28:15.334 --> 01:28:20.300
[SPEAKER_01]: In fact, the top two matches are probably going to be excellent because the other one is XA Virginia versus Yoshi Hash.

01:28:20.320 --> 01:28:21.822
[SPEAKER_01]: And we know those two know what they're doing.

01:28:21.937 --> 01:28:22.458
[SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely.

01:28:22.478 --> 01:28:25.361
[SPEAKER_00]: And then after that, we're going to have Bolton, oligarchs is hardly jobs.

01:28:25.421 --> 01:28:27.564
[SPEAKER_00]: It will hardly, actually.

01:28:27.644 --> 01:28:28.906
[SPEAKER_01]: We're doing these cards backwards.

01:28:28.966 --> 01:28:33.332
[SPEAKER_00]: So we're, yeah, I went from the top down on both of these cards so that the main event.

01:28:33.352 --> 01:28:36.376
[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, we need to skip over any of the other stuff we could.

01:28:36.996 --> 01:28:38.378
[SPEAKER_00]: Heart would jack to the Bolton, oligarch.

01:28:38.498 --> 01:28:42.443
[SPEAKER_00]: Heart would jack to the by far the upset special in here.

01:28:42.463 --> 01:28:47.590
[SPEAKER_00]: I wouldn't rule it out, but I'm pretty sure this is a Bolton, oligarch showcase here.

01:28:47.570 --> 01:28:49.733
[SPEAKER_00]: And we got a eight-man action.

01:28:49.753 --> 01:28:50.534
[SPEAKER_00]: We got Yota Fuji.

01:28:50.554 --> 01:28:51.375
[SPEAKER_00]: We got Drill Molooney.

01:28:51.415 --> 01:28:52.716
[SPEAKER_00]: We got Taiji, Shibori.

01:28:52.756 --> 01:28:56.882
[SPEAKER_00]: We got Robbie Eps versus United Empire, Jake Lee.

01:28:57.042 --> 01:28:59.745
[SPEAKER_00]: And all right, Great O'Con and the same shape.

01:29:00.406 --> 01:29:02.168
[SPEAKER_00]: After that, we got a six-man action.

01:29:02.188 --> 01:29:04.271
[SPEAKER_00]: We got Diffin Lee from Taka Hashik.

01:29:04.371 --> 01:29:04.932
[SPEAKER_00]: We got Geto.

01:29:05.312 --> 01:29:07.575
[SPEAKER_00]: There'll be facing United Empire's Calenuman.

01:29:08.076 --> 01:29:10.759
[SPEAKER_00]: Friends, just go Kira and Jacob Austin Young.

01:29:10.908 --> 01:29:30.267
[SPEAKER_00]: We got more House of Torch action running back that same pretty much matchup we had the night before Aaron Wolfe, Yano, Yo and Master Wado versus Renderita, we got Yo Shinobu Cabinamaro, we got Dictogo and we got Doki in that match and then we're running back yet another match for the night before it I believe is

01:29:31.057 --> 01:29:37.244
[SPEAKER_00]: Dakota, you, yeah, and Matt's motto versus the knockout brothers and take the chance with it.

01:29:37.264 --> 01:29:39.547
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm going to God every time, every time.

01:29:40.388 --> 01:29:44.373
[SPEAKER_00]: I keep telling people, I got 50, 50 out of remembering these guys as names as they get.

01:29:44.433 --> 01:29:47.176
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm always embarrassed when you have to correct me.

01:29:47.717 --> 01:29:51.301
[SPEAKER_00]: But Nike and a guy, if you'd be joining the knockout brothers in that match is well.

01:29:51.421 --> 01:29:56.507
[SPEAKER_00]: And then we have the card for the new beginning in O'clock.

01:29:56.487 --> 01:29:58.331
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, we'll get to all that another time though.

01:29:58.351 --> 01:30:02.299
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we've got a long way to say that's until February 11th, so we're running out of time.

01:30:02.319 --> 01:30:03.782
[SPEAKER_00]: But the card is out in the money, and it's a bigger.

01:30:04.423 --> 01:30:05.084
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:30:05.164 --> 01:30:08.110
[SPEAKER_01]: Nick Reeves mentioned that issue Morty is going to get his face smashed, he says.

01:30:08.170 --> 01:30:09.774
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I hope not, but I'll tell you what.

01:30:09.814 --> 01:30:14.243
[SPEAKER_01]: As long as they don't touch his abs, because believe me, I've seen them, they're more glorious in person.

01:30:14.884 --> 01:30:18.411
[SPEAKER_00]: And he also says, Oh, and maybe oil will get that shirt clean.

01:30:18.661 --> 01:30:48.583
[SPEAKER_01]: It looks like they're setting up Watto is Dokey's next challenger select a bit and then Jeremy had a question said I have a question do you think Tana will be a good president I don't know wrestlers don't make good bosses there have been outstanding bosses that have been wrestlers Bill Watts was was great at that Eddie Graham was a great boss and a great wrestler there it's happened and I mean a nokey did pretty well for himself so to giant Baba in Japan just to use

01:30:48.563 --> 01:30:55.516
[SPEAKER_01]: The one thing that I wanted to mention about Tana Hashi, he had a, he said a rough time so far.

01:30:55.536 --> 01:31:08.040
[SPEAKER_01]: And when we had our discussion with Dave Meltzer, I mentioned that he needs to turn things around, or it'll be remembered as a disaster, because they had an objection objectively bad year last year, financially attendance, why is all that?

01:31:09.083 --> 01:31:09.644
[SPEAKER_01]: Here's the thing.

01:31:10.065 --> 01:31:11.066
[SPEAKER_01]: He's not wrestling anymore.

01:31:11.247 --> 01:31:12.288
[SPEAKER_01]: He doesn't have to think about that.

01:31:12.809 --> 01:31:17.677
[SPEAKER_01]: So here's why I at least leave a little bit of optimism.

01:31:18.518 --> 01:31:21.083
[SPEAKER_01]: I have a little bit of faith in the guy in that now.

01:31:21.904 --> 01:31:23.647
[SPEAKER_01]: He's not booking his own retirement anymore.

01:31:23.747 --> 01:31:25.730
[SPEAKER_01]: He can just focus on the company itself.

01:31:26.391 --> 01:31:27.994
[SPEAKER_01]: We're gonna find out as my answer.

01:31:28.034 --> 01:31:28.795
[SPEAKER_01]: I think he could be.

01:31:28.995 --> 01:31:29.536
[SPEAKER_01]: I think he could be.

01:31:29.596 --> 01:31:30.378
[SPEAKER_01]: He hasn't been yet.

01:31:30.899 --> 01:31:31.960
[SPEAKER_01]: He hasn't been a good president yet.

01:31:32.141 --> 01:31:33.623
[SPEAKER_01]: The company hasn't done well with him.

01:31:34.683 --> 01:31:37.852
[SPEAKER_01]: going forward though now he doesn't have that distraction.

01:31:37.992 --> 01:31:39.556
[SPEAKER_01]: He can now just do that job.

01:31:39.576 --> 01:31:41.060
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't have to tour unless he wants to.

01:31:41.542 --> 01:31:47.578
[SPEAKER_01]: He can just work on the office and he can figure out what needs to be done going forward with his creative team.

01:31:47.896 --> 01:31:51.060
[SPEAKER_01]: If he can do that, if he can write that shit, he'll be remembered as a good one.

01:31:51.380 --> 01:31:57.087
[SPEAKER_01]: Tetsumi Fujianami did all right, you know, but there have been guys that have done this well.

01:31:57.447 --> 01:32:08.480
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's too early to tell because that first year he was trying to serve two masters, which is be that main event wrestler who was showing up for the last time and all these towns, there's a lot on his mind.

01:32:08.701 --> 01:32:10.182
[SPEAKER_01]: And now he can just run the company.

01:32:11.444 --> 01:32:15.709
[SPEAKER_01]: If we have a year that is as bad as or worse than 2025,

01:32:16.010 --> 01:32:18.778
[SPEAKER_01]: probably gonna have our answer, but yeah, I can figure it up.

01:32:19.119 --> 01:32:21.305
[SPEAKER_00]: I can't do a group with pretty much everything that you said.

01:32:21.325 --> 01:32:26.880
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm optimistic now that he hung up the the books that he is home.

01:32:27.687 --> 01:32:30.151
[SPEAKER_00]: he's going to do a better job than he did beforehand.

01:32:30.853 --> 01:32:48.244
[SPEAKER_00]: I just, I generally get that sense that now that he focused on making the rest of the new spend better and not his own victory app, which by all means like that company made a ton of money off of his victory apps, so you do what you got to do to get the most profitable year possible, and that's how you do it last year.

01:32:48.224 --> 01:33:02.250
[SPEAKER_00]: This is where you know he it's a time to be tested this time to shine all I know is that this guy right here The only way that he'll say the taunahashi is a good president if he feeds him within the next side

01:33:02.990 --> 01:33:05.832
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and then turn and ask he can't control the booking though, right?

01:33:05.893 --> 01:33:06.953
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, here's the thing.

01:33:07.574 --> 01:33:10.236
[SPEAKER_01]: He's the president of the booking committee is certainly is.

01:33:10.356 --> 01:33:16.462
[SPEAKER_01]: And I mean, he's like one of five people in the booking committee is the president of the company can veto anything in any time.

01:33:16.562 --> 01:33:26.691
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, like, it's not like he is powerless because oh, our bookers have decided this guy's going to win just like Vince McMahon, you know, like, excuse me, Vincent, we had our triple age right now.

01:33:27.031 --> 01:33:30.434
[SPEAKER_01]: If the booking committee comes to him and says, we're going to put over this guy.

01:33:30.454 --> 01:33:31.815
[SPEAKER_01]: He can just cross his arm and say,

01:33:31.795 --> 01:33:32.796
[SPEAKER_01]: No, you're not.

01:33:32.816 --> 01:33:33.237
[SPEAKER_01]: Back to work.

01:33:33.738 --> 01:33:39.145
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the idea that ghetto, get up not, you know, utterly booking the vision of New Japan.

01:33:39.165 --> 01:33:41.367
[SPEAKER_00]: There's like five people involved in this.

01:33:41.868 --> 01:33:52.161
[SPEAKER_00]: And I keep forgetting who they are for time to time, but like, kick your teeth in there, uh, talk to horses you's in there, uh, ghetto's in there.

01:33:52.382 --> 01:33:54.204
[SPEAKER_01]: Where does Yano and all that stuff?

01:33:54.224 --> 01:33:56.487
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Yano, Nikata, I think,

01:33:56.467 --> 01:34:07.618
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, it's a group of people who've been there a very long time and understand how this business works intrinsically well in Japan and know what it takes to get people over.

01:34:07.738 --> 01:34:11.067
[SPEAKER_00]: So hopefully this is their time to prove that they're not bullshit.

01:34:11.300 --> 01:34:13.503
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and you know that but that's the thing.

01:34:13.543 --> 01:34:21.694
[SPEAKER_01]: Think of him as more of an editor-in-chief Whereas You know, the editor-chief of magazine is the fight and authority on what goes in.

01:34:22.034 --> 01:34:24.938
[SPEAKER_01]: He's the final authority on what gets printed John O'Hash.

01:34:24.958 --> 01:34:26.140
[SPEAKER_01]: He's probably the final authority.

01:34:26.160 --> 01:34:34.371
[SPEAKER_01]: He's gonna let them handle a lot of it But nothing's gonna go on those shows that that he Doesn't approve of you know, that's it's gotta go through them

01:34:34.840 --> 01:34:35.282
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

01:34:36.064 --> 01:34:37.068
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'll remain hopeful too.

01:34:37.168 --> 01:34:38.433
[SPEAKER_01]: Churrent says, I'll remain hopeful.

01:34:38.573 --> 01:34:44.614
[SPEAKER_01]: I will too, let's give them some time to focus only on the job he's got now, so we'll see how it goes.

01:34:44.932 --> 01:34:47.255
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, so with that in mind, we are going to go from here.

01:34:47.635 --> 01:34:49.337
[SPEAKER_01]: Nothing on NJPW world this week.

01:34:49.357 --> 01:34:54.523
[SPEAKER_01]: Go catch up on startup, Marigold, TJPW, Noah, all Japan, whatever you like.

01:34:54.964 --> 01:35:04.615
[SPEAKER_01]: But we will be here to preview what is coming up as we get closer to some pretty important new beginning shows and a couple of core can haul events.

01:35:04.695 --> 01:35:07.378
[SPEAKER_00]: And we'll recap what happened more.

01:35:07.358 --> 01:35:11.284
[SPEAKER_00]: Enlightenment on who's staying and who's going to, you know, I work on tech.

01:35:11.304 --> 01:35:12.827
[SPEAKER_00]: We could talk about that a little bit more.

01:35:13.368 --> 01:35:20.399
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure that, you know, the, uh, the information super high waves suddenly get a bottle up and nothing to come out of the next.

01:35:21.120 --> 01:35:21.661
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I don't know.

01:35:21.681 --> 01:35:22.903
[SPEAKER_01]: We're about to have another ice storm.

01:35:22.943 --> 01:35:24.466
[SPEAKER_01]: The last time I paralyzed all the Texas.

01:35:24.586 --> 01:35:25.948
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, you're talking tactics.

01:35:25.968 --> 01:35:27.311
[SPEAKER_00]: Stay safe this weekend, buddy.

01:35:28.112 --> 01:35:29.674
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm hoping for the hope in the power.

01:35:29.734 --> 01:35:32.539
[SPEAKER_00]: I have not checked the weather for me, but it's not that.

01:35:33.160 --> 01:35:33.680
[SPEAKER_01]: Mm, good.

01:35:33.901 --> 01:35:34.281
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, good.

01:35:34.701 --> 01:35:35.322
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll see how it goes.

01:35:35.362 --> 01:35:37.544
[SPEAKER_01]: Hope everybody out there remains safe as well.

01:35:37.564 --> 01:35:40.407
[SPEAKER_01]: So with that in mind, we'll be back next week to cover all that.

01:35:40.547 --> 01:35:42.889
[SPEAKER_01]: Any other news that comes up, you know, we're going to be here talking about it.

01:35:42.929 --> 01:35:45.832
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01:35:45.852 --> 01:35:46.833
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01:35:51.297 --> 01:35:54.760
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01:35:54.780 --> 01:35:56.842
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