John Cena’s Legacy, Tony Khan's Strategy & Wrestlepalooza Fantasy Booking | Takedown

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, we are recording this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think head up against raw as of we're recording.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, raw and Paris.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're recording the day after the clash in Paris.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So Paul got to watch that show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I watched it as well last night.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Keela Cash and Salty Scott.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And myself, we did the post show that is live on our YouTube channel.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was recorded live.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's now on our YouTube channel.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It is also in the audio feed if you haven't heard that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would say a very fine lame duck peacock show which featured some good stuff like depending on what you thought about the Becky Lynch and Nicky match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, if you didn't like that match, then yeah, there were two matches kind of in the middle that weren't the best, but otherwise there were four other matches that I thought did a really good job at what they were trying to do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So a nice little swan song for WWE on peacock.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, I thought honestly one of the better like one of the better like shows for international shows that they've done.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I normally these shows are like, you know, like you'll get, you know, you'll get the awesome crowds, but it's like nothing really happens on the shows and

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[SPEAKER_01]: a lot of times they're not even like that important.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we had this discussion and you even mentioned it on the poster last night, like you didn't, you know, you thought ultimately it wasn't other than the Becky angle.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't like really it was a show an important show, but I kind of looked at it differently because you had John Cena wrestling, you had Roman Reigns wrestling, you had CM Punk wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, arguably there's three biggest stars.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They moved.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Cody off of the show though.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They did.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Did they, or was it because he had a baby?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I'm now I'm wondering, like if, well, I mean, he's doing a lot of things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He had a child, he's doing the streetfighter thing right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So there's there's reason to move it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But if they thought Clash and Paris was the show that they needed him on, I'm sure they would have figured it out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, although I'm, you know, the timing was good, you know, I guess obviously for, you know, for the, you know, welcoming the new baby and everything, but, I mean, we all assumed this when they took that match off this show that, oh, yeah, that's probably because they want to save it for a rest of the loser, which we'll talk about later.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, like you had all those things, you did have Becky and Nikki, which I'm sure that in their minds, they thought was a big match because Nikki Bella's

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, in the real world is, is a bigger star than she probably is in the wrestling world.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think that those fans would rather seen Eosky and reapply, even Lyra Valchuria, like somebody that they see on TV every week that they see as a big star.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And when they looked at Nikki Bella, either they didn't know her or they didn't like her.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm sure I'm sure they knew her because she was a such a big part of WWE for a very long time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I think it's kind of what you said, which is they wanted to see the stars who they're following now, not the stars of yesterday or necessarily though.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You could then say, I mean, there's a, there's an interesting parallel, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Which is the thing that Becky keeps harping on in this promo to build up this match is the John Cena thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, John Cena was also on this show and he got like the biggest heroes welcome of all time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, yeah, but John number one, John seen it is on the show, you know, most weeks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And also he brings back good memories.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Whereas Nikki Bella brings back memories of an era where, yeah, they were, they were moving to improve things for the women, but it was still that divas era.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was still usually bad matches.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, you get your one segment of show at that time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was kind of like what A, W.

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[SPEAKER_01]: was up until about a year or two ago where you know like it was like they were checking a box we have to have a woman's match in the show it's not going to be very good but it'll be over quick you know like that's kind of the memories that you have of Nikki Bella like as far but she helped bridge that gap to get them to where they are now I don't want to take that away from her but I think when the fans look at her that's what they remember if they remember her at all and and whereas with John Cena

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, yeah, when he started, he was being shoved down their throats and people rejected him and everything, but he pushed through that and he became a legitimate big star.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And one of the better, honestly, like people will tell you this, and I'll even agree, and although some people still disagree, one of the better workers of his era, you know, like for what he did.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, obviously he's lost a bit now and he's using more selling and psychology and even then, you know, like his last two matches have been with two best matches he's had in years.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, he's figuring out a way to do it now, whereas Nikki Bella is, you know, like she's trying, but you say one of the best workers and what is his fatal flaw as a pro wrestler in the ring?

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[SPEAKER_00]: His punches have always been terrible.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And his finishing move forever was the STFU, which was the worst submission finisher, maybe in the history of pro wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I almost blame how big his arms are because his arms are so big to try and wrap them around a neck, but he just wouldn't pull back the way that you're supposed to do it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It didn't look intense.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It looked so soft.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, here's an interesting thing about the John Cena run.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We know people who disagree.

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[SPEAKER_00]: with this idea that John Cena is the goat or the Babe Ruth or whatever and they look at it as wrestling took a precipitous drop in popularity during John Cena's entire run as the top guy and so what do you do merit him and what do you say well there's a longevity piece and maybe without John Cena it drops even faster and harder

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they didn't have anybody else if it was, you know, the end of the triple H rain and it was just continual triple H and there was no John Cena or whomever they wanted to use, you know, but he's to had a had a nice run there, but whomever could have been the John Cena of that time for maybe you pushed Jericho even harder.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, there are people who say.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Great, you're the most popular wrestler on a brand that was just being cut in half as far as popularity was concerned.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, when you look at that, I think a lot with a lot of people, like what they'll do is they'll look at the attitude there and all the numbers that WWE and WCW is pulling there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then they'll look, oh, and five, ten years later, when John Cena was on top, they're doing what they're doing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But what they're ignoring is the fact that that that bad run that they had actually started before John Cena and like what happened was the Steve Austin heel turn and the the WCW disappearing was what ended up like where all the fans went and when you look at John Cena's run like the numbers actually

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[SPEAKER_01]: were good like and they maintained for years and it wasn't until of twenty fourteen when they started to really dip again and that was the onset of the WWE network and and you know whereas I think a lot of people at that time you know when you got the WWE network it actually in some ways I feel like it people stop watching

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[SPEAKER_01]: The current product because they could see the older stuff in one way and then the other thing is CM Punk left and when CM Punk left you saw an immediate decline of people that came back in

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[SPEAKER_01]: One, when he went to AWS, that's where they got all those people back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's kind of the way you look at it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, ticket sales, you know, they were always up for the big shows and the house shows weren't that great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, you definitely, that's definitely a strike against John Cena.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, overall, I don't think you can say he was anything but you could see the difference in the shows when he was there and when he wasn't.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Roman, I think you can say definitely for the first

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[SPEAKER_01]: four or five years when he was being pushed as a top guy, you definitely saw a decline.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was seen a, he maintained.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He didn't grow, but he definitely maintained because the big decline happened right before he became the guy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and I've nothing against seeing I've always been a pretty fan of.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I know you have you're and you're always very fair to him as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, you know, and the thing about the the punches and that like yeah, but I just I talked to people in the business workers, you know, long time researchers, you know, promoters people we know they'll all say, you know, he's a good worker like it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But it's like there's just certain things that people like to pick apart about him and the fans wrote him and he he pushed through it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: the match with Logan Paul, by the way, which I really, really enjoyed, but I enjoy John Cena matches both for, you know, the good, the good stuff and the bad stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like he did the worst styles clash I've ever seen in that match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that was, okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I wasn't sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Joe Gilbert in our discord who is kind of the lead person in all the WWE content because he's such a giant fan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He creates all the threads for all the shows and when I wrote that he's like, what do you expect man?

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[SPEAKER_00]: The guy's no knees.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He couldn't even jump into it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, yep, I know because when he came out for his entrance,

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[SPEAKER_00]: He did the thing that I do, I do, which is you kind of walk a little on your tiptoes a little bit and you can't really bend your knees because they're so stiff and so you kind of stiff leg the whole thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, I know that move John, I do that move every once and again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But really shout out to him for I don't know who's idea it was to turn him back from heel to baby face, but it was

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[SPEAKER_00]: and and look the way that they did it was so bad, but at the same time, I'm so happy we get this version of John Cena to end his career because that heel version

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[SPEAKER_00]: was maybe the worst version that I'd ever seen going back to the beginning, you know, maybe the very, very beginning when he was, you know, neon pants, John Cena or whatever we call, like I very much enjoyed kind of the gradualness of his character.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And when he became the top guy, he kind of had to lean in to being a little bit more cuddly and a little bit more fan friendly and less edgy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then

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[SPEAKER_00]: He turns heel and it was just the most boring version of his character that I'd seen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's so happy to see that this version is back and we get to see that guy kind of go on the run to end his career because the Cody match

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[SPEAKER_00]: wrestling hardcore wrestling fans are going to hate me for saying this, but the Cody matches my favorite match of the year so far.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now I'm not saying it's the best in any way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The Cody match with John Cena at SummerSlam, not the best match of the year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not going to win the best match of the year award in the Observer award.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It'll get votes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It'll get some votes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it's my favorite match because I have a tie to that guy right that that I have a link to that guy and to see him turn back the clock and have that kind of performance and at the same time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: put Cody over to help ascend Cody as the next guy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just thought that was a tremendous performance, but yeah, you know, it's no, we'll all spray doing a Spanish fly off the top of the cage or anything at revolution.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So as we kind of put Clash and Paris in the rear view, you felt that it was a little bit more of an important show than I did.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the way that I look at this stuff, and we were talking kind of offline, and I was like, you know, if you have thirteen PLEs, and some of them are two night events, and then you have a bunch of these Saturday night main events, and then you have stuff like the Netflix RAW, like if so many big shows, and when you have so many big shows, like not everything can be important.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like this Becky Hilton,

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[SPEAKER_00]: I could argue that it would have been more impactful on raw than on this show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, from a crowd reaction standpoint, it worked tremendously well in front of these crowds.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They didn't see it coming.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They were so much so that when she was in the ring,

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[SPEAKER_00]: in the black clothing, they didn't react at all.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I made a joke last night on the post show that for a second, I was like, oh, they got Marina.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They took Marina from A, W, I can't believe these jerks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But no, then I was like, okay, now I understand what's going on here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But once the reveal happened, the crowds into it, I could tell

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[SPEAKER_00]: just by the way, she was teasing face tat bros post Malone and jelly roll.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She's going to have so much fun doing this character with her husband.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, she's going to have a blast.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and I mean, I think even personally, like she's probably going to enjoy, you know, getting her hands on

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[SPEAKER_01]: see him punk a little bit and him not being allowed to hit her back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That'll be fun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, like, you know, and there's some, I mean, obviously these people are all professionals and they're going to work together and I don't expect anything to go awry, but there's some real feelings there too, you know, that, you know, for years, you know, like

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[SPEAKER_01]: Becky and Seth were keeping the Ford in WWE where John Cena left and then he went to WWE and yeah you know like Seth will overdo it and say oh you tried to kill us and all this and that's I mean that obviously that's not what he was doing and Seth doesn't really believe that but he was there being a competitor and trying to build a company that was trying to take over their spot

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, you know, I mean, realistically, I think Seth and Becky are both smart enough to know that the best thing for everybody is a strong EW.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're making a lot more money now than they were before or that they wouldn't that they would be if there was no EW.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So they get that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And with with punk and, you know, in the day when now when, you know, drawing money, quote unquote is an outdated concept.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Drawing interest is something that this can do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, she's going to have a blast.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I saw you guys talking last night about whether or not she should be a permanent part of this group or whether it should just be a special thing that they do once a while.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think she should be.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to hear in it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to see her with Hayman.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to see Hayman do the whole spiel about who she is and really bring up those accolades, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because if someone can bring that out and remind people who back his, it's Paul Hayman and not her.

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[SPEAKER_01]: like when she rattles off her resume and those sports illustrated calls me the Bethbo.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It means something else when Paul Hayman does it was opposed to Becky who a lot of times she'll go out there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's by herself.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's got to Mike.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's doing a monologue to the crowd.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She starts talking really fast and she says this and where'd you go?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, like she's just she gets frantic as soon as someone comes out there for her to bounce off of the promo like

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like it's three times better.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so if she's in there as part of a group where she only has to talk for a minute or two and then Hayman's doing all the legwork for her and then she can just stand there and be the man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that I think is something that I'm looking forward to and I think she.

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[SPEAKER_01]: complement that group really, really well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I see people comparing it to the death writers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's not, that's not at all what this is because number one, Seth and Becky are presented as equals.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're not like John Moxley has no equal in the death writers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're John Moxley's death writers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: In this, you've got Seth and Becky are at the top and then you've got Bronson and Bron as the people that they're bringing up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they're supposed to be the next star.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's almost like evolution.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It is yet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was going to say it is more compare.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You can compare it more closely to evolution for the reason.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But from from a visual perspective, I understand why people are like, Oh, you have the now you have the female wrestler in the group.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you have the younger wrestler in the group.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I mean,

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[SPEAKER_00]: I had a hundred times out of a hundred, I'm taking brown brick or over Wheeler, you know, and I like Wheeler, you know, like Claudio and and Bronson are not really comfortable.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what the and the thing about it is is this group vision.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't like that name, by the way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, it's is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But at least from the outset, it looked like a vehicle for Braunbreaker to eventually turn on Seth Rollins.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that's probably still going to be the case.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I made a joke that they need to bring up Izzy Dame, so Braunbreaker has his lady along for the ride.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Was that who he's dating now?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think so.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know you should be core up it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so this is this is going to be fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And as I mentioned, we're recording this as raw is going on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So there could be something that happens at raw that that we don't know about right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I mean, I am looking forward to that promo to which I'm guessing they kick off or maybe it's they say for the end, but I can't wait to see what they do with Seth and Becky on day one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and then, and what is next, and I mean, and you guys talked about that last night, and I thought there was some hints that they dropped on the show, you know, with Seth, you know, it wasn't like on camp, like it was on camera, but he didn't have a microphone, but he said it so that we could hear it, you know, I hate you, I hate your stupid family.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, where'd that come from?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, there's no, the family of CM Punk has never been brought up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that leads one to believe, okay, well, who's the only family we know about is Larry the Dog and AJ.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so if it's AJ, I mean, that's, that's intriguing, you know?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that, I mean, to me, like it seems obvious that we're gonna get that mixed tag.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And WrestlePlues, that feels like the place to do it because that's a match that people will be interested in.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's a crossover audience who may not always watch a WWE who will try and find out how to watch that show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it'll word them out on the internet, things like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Even people that watch a W are going to be intrigued by something like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: because people have wanted AJ Lee in AEW, like I've back and forth heard it over the years.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not like it was with, well, actually in some ways, maybe even more than Serena, you know, in some ways.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not like a groundswell or anything, but you see in here that we're here and there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, let's move on to the AEW side of this, because now we are three weeks away.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think I may be overstating this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I said this last night, I don't ever want to see this again, but we're going to, I'm sure we're going to see it many times in the future, but I am so interested in the strategy from both sides and how they build this first head to head real head to head show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is not an XT, this is not Saturday nights made event.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It is our big promotional vehicle versus your big promotional vehicle, and it's like this collision course.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm really excited to see how each side attacks and how each side positions their show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: My concern, and I think some of this is because AEW fans are just kind of

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[SPEAKER_00]: there's a little maybe they're a little worried and they want to pretend that the other side doesn't really exist but i've said from the start that i you know i want to need to go full force on this thing i want him to you know pull out all his all his promotional chops all his booking chops

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'll share this photo in the video.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to see this version of Tony Khan short sleeves flex in the biceps a little bit wearing the dark sunglasses.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know that like the little cocky billionaire version of Tony Khan because like he doesn't want to be the pushover like he doesn't I'm sure he is not.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He feels disrespect, he has to feel disrespect these human that they keep attacking his stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But at the same time, I think he has to feel a sense of pride that they've tried NXT, they've tried Saturday Night's main event, and none of those things have worked so far.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So now they have to go

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[SPEAKER_00]: to ESPN and whatever Russell Pelusa is going to be this created show out of thin air.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And there's got to be some pride that he's taking in that in that look, you guys say, you don't care about us, but you pay attention to us more so than anybody.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so that's what I'm super excited about.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to see the business of both companies as they approach the show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so now we, we, we, we will talk about what a possible Russell Pelusicard would, could be in a second.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What I wanted to do was read off what AEW is doing so far.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, this is still three weeks out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They have scheduled for the September, seventeenth dynamite.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They have scheduled something that they are calling September to remember.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it is a three hour block so you have the two hour dynamite and you have the one hour collision.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm guessing that things are going to have probably a twenty minute overrun sort of probably be more like a three hour and twenty minute show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so that is going to be their go home television for all out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So they are, you know, obviously they don't want collision necessarily to be that like funky Saturday show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So they they sometimes they put it on Thursday this time they are putting one hour of it on on the back end of dynamite.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that is that is one thing that they are doing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The second thing that they have scheduled is a one hour

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[SPEAKER_00]: Saturday, tailgate, brawl all out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That is the title of this show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it is scheduled for one hour prior to the pay per view.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So instead of it looks like instead of that YouTube or wherever you're getting the pay per view where you have that pre show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It looks like they're doing that pre show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: on TNT, heading in and they'll say, you know, here's how you get your pay per view.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And

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[SPEAKER_00]: One other thing that we haven't talked about yet, and this is the one thing I'm not a hundred percent certain about, which is the idea of the HBO Max paper views.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Supposedly, there is a press release or there is some information that is scheduled to come out about that capability to purchase a paper view on the HBO Max streaming network.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So those three things are kind of bubbling.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Those are business things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Those are marketing things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Those are promotional things that Tony Khan is doing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm happy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't want him to try no sell this WWE show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I've talked about how I want.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I also want to see from a booking standpoint.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, what does he think are his like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: great tricks up his sleeve for matches, you know, that that fanbase is specifically about the matches.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So what are your thoughts on what AEW has done so far?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's interesting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We were wondering we talked a lot about this last week about how they would fight back and whether it's going to be loading up a card and doing a WrestleMania or an all-in type card against WWE or what could they do?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we're starting to see that a little bit now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That bit you mentioned about the ability to purchase supposedly and the information I came out was

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[SPEAKER_01]: did that would would go into effect on September, twentieth.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So this theoretically would be the first show that you could purchase on HBO Max.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We haven't seen that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, from them yet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There is a danger in doing that, by the way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If this thing bonks, it's the worst time in the world for this thing to belong.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, we talk about we're looking at this in the frame of AW and WWE, but this is also TNT against ESPN.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like these are the two biggest cable networks out there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're basically the last two standing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're the only two networks that do consistently do any kind of ratings other than

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[SPEAKER_00]: cable networks that have worked together though ESPN has licensed games to Warner Brothers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So there's a relationship there, but yeah, you're right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They are sick.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They are two of the more successful cable networks still left remaining.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And this will be, I believe, the first major event on the ESPN platform.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's, it's live now, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, there's, yeah, there was, you know, college football.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They wanted to get the thing out right before, but, but everything zero of college football.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Everything they're airing though is stuff that you can get on the regular station, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I believe so.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So this would be theoretically the first event.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, there's probably college football games that aren't on ESPN that are that wrong this app.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would imagine it's kind of like the SPN plus thing where but games are that you can buy if you had the subscription.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Those are probably all on

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[SPEAKER_01]: This will be like a major event, though, something that, you know, like I imagine at some point they'll have an NFL game that you have to have ESPN, the app together or something like, you know, so there, this will be like there's their ESPNs and me promoting this obviously TNT, if they're debuting their paper view thing, they'll be promoting it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And all of a sudden, I imagine you're going to see a lot less promotion of Prime.

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[SPEAKER_01]: on the W broadcast.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Amazon Prime.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If I was them, I would keep them in very high standing because

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[SPEAKER_00]: The future of Warner Brothers discovery, global discovery, whatever these two companies are going to our name, I forget the name, because the future of what's going on is kind of still not solidified and is very much up in the air.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Amazon Prime.

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[SPEAKER_00]: is a good partner to keep happy because there are enough subscribers to Amazon Prime where if they wanted to give you let's say something happens to Warner Brothers or they get sold off or something you know whatever and there's a better deal for AEW to go to Amazon Prime they would

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[SPEAKER_00]: obviously lose viewership a hundred percent but there is enough there are enough subscribers to where you get people to populate over then you know or you know you could maybe maybe you sell your paper view rights to Amazon similarly but Tony Khan has been very

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[SPEAKER_00]: Adam and he doesn't want to do anything to upset Warner Brothers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not negotiating with anyone.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He said like I've had offers for Ring of Honor, but I'm not taking any offers that aren't from W to B D. What an negotiator.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This guy is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's not the same guy you showed earlier.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I, there's got to be a reason, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then it's probably the reason that we all think is because they are, they have a piece of the company.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And is that the thing that he doesn't want to come out in this lawsuit with, uh,

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he's more, he's all been admitted it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So unless there's some other part of this that he doesn't want out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's pieces of information that I've heard that I don't think would be great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It would be embarrassing, not the right word, but it's stuff that people wouldn't want to hear that could be tied to Ring of Honor.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm not suggesting anything to various or anything like that, but just, you know, like, you know, and people have their set notions about what the idea of ring of honor is and why Tony bought it and what his intentions are and even what it's places.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's this company that produces like three shows a year and other than that, they're just televising

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[SPEAKER_01]: you know, the shows that they used to put on YouTube and charging people, ten bucks a month to watch them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And suckers like me are paying it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Although I'm like, I'm, I've, I can't tell it now between the show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I really only pay for the, the, the, whatever you call them PLEs or I think they call them on our club exclusives because they don't want to use the term PLE.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they can't call it a paper view, even though Tony still calls it a paper view.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, so like this company, I mean,

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[SPEAKER_01]: You want to say, hey, W's making money.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Ring of honor is losing a lot of money.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's no way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You look at that line up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They had like, like, like, fifty people on that card on Friday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They had nine hundred people in the building.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, they have, you know, they put the show up for free on YouTube.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They gave everybody a month free.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They lost their freaking ass on that show, but it doesn't matter because it's part of a W and a W makes money supposedly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I shouldn't say supposedly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think they do, but

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[SPEAKER_01]: Tony himself said, hopefully.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think he just, because he's a private company.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, he doesn't want people fishing in his business.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And put it this way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think they're making money, but I don't think they're making as much money as what Dave estimated at the beginning of the year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I think there's a lot more to it than just, hey, we, you know, we doubled our media, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we doubled, you know, we were making all this money now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like he's spending a lot more than he used to.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But but there's still making money.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, is there any based off of Wednesday's Dynamite?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Where do you sense they're going with Hangman?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's going to be Hangman and Kenny Omega.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not like they told us that, but they kind of put him in a position where this could be the outcome.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that they'll end up doing like an eliminator match where it's going to be Kenny Omega against the member of the Don Carlos family.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the idea would be that, oh, page is going to be facing whoever that is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And in reality, hangman or Kenny will win and then it'll be Kenny and hangman.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you got Kenny challenging for the belt in Toronto.

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[SPEAKER_01]: you've got or you some you could even maybe like you do Kenny and Josh Alexander is the match let's say and maybe you know goes to a DQ or something like that and they do a three way okay the Josh Alexander who finally got a win the other day yeah after just losing all of these matches the only reason I'm suggesting that is because people are talking about it I wouldn't do it

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I think it's a negative to add him to the match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, you know, the only other, the only other bigger, like, obviously to catch up or Ocata against Hangman would be bigger, but I don't think they're doing that right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It just doesn't feel like that at all.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, in a sense, the flutcher as well, flutcher would be another one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The, hangman having the strap kind of, uh, handicaps them here because what I'll tell you what I wanted to see.

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[SPEAKER_00]: When those two guys got back together, I was like, oh, I don't see him against the bucks again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That would be so fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but you can work on a world title match on that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they are going to be in that multi person match, but you know, the problem also is they even though the bucks still win almost every time they are still played for for chuckles and laughs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But you know, you do have the, you do have that, that is the, you know, that is the delete match, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like those were those of the four guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that would be a really cool thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, I think it would give people all the fields in a sense.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But you need a world title match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I still think we're going to see Hangman.

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[SPEAKER_00]: MJF and brisco in some way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But the problem with this though, see, in my mind, I bookmark brisco much more strongly than Tony condes because then, uh, did what did what happened on collision?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Did they face each other on collision yet brisco and co-fletcher?

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, so that match my sense is that it might be the last show that they didn't feel like.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, so that would be like the week and a half before the paper view.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I mean, he could beat Kyle.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, wouldn't be the worst idea.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I wouldn't do it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, and then then what?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like he's going to defend against empty F. I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, or MJF interferes, yeah, it just gets disqualified, Kyle gets disqualified, and then somehow they create a match out of that, but I don't know, but just I don't think, I don't think MJF and Hangman are going to be in the ring together at all, at all, at all.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But the reason I would add Mark is so that MJF doesn't take another pinfall.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And again, I've gone, I've said this few times, but I think that I think where they're going with MJF and brisco is a little bit longer than that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think it's going to be brisco is going to win that ring from him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that we're only a couple months away from that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, the dynamite doesn't battle royal.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then he'll get a title shot that way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then it'll be hangman and brisco for the title, you know, shot that mark brisco earned from MJF, which, you know, means something.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And did you sense from dynamite that, uh, adjunct Christian and FTR was better without the titles, worse without the titles, um, matter.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think it matters.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So in that sense, it's probably better that it's not for the titles because then you can have another important match that involves the titles.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I had a lot more heat than I was expecting you to have.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I like that opening segment even though yeah production issues of course they had another one on collision to that was that was you know DAC it wasn't like edge and Christian weren't there but DACs did and cash had major heat I people do not like those guys and that's good the one flaw in this plan is that the tag team champions are like the fourth most overtake in the company

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[SPEAKER_01]: I, off the top my head, I can't remember who they are.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, ProDito.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we're probably going to get ProDito in the box.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I would, I would think at all, which is, that'll be incredible.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We, we saw that once already, I think.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, that will have that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll probably have Kyle Fletcher.

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[SPEAKER_01]: against, you know, I don't somebody.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it doesn't matter who it is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It'll be great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okada, you know, we'll sleepwalk as way through a four star match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, like, so I'm sure the thing is we give her syndicate and gates of agony.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you know, I had an interesting argument with someone today, but Ricochet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And let's talk in a boat.

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[SPEAKER_01]: whether the question doesn't whether he's better off in a w than he wasn't w e the question is is he in a better is he in the I said he's in the exact same place on the card as he wasn't w the differences is he's having a lot more fun yeah he's had and he's a lot more fun to watch and he's probably made probably made more money

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[SPEAKER_01]: For sure, for sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But in actuality, like he's in the exact same spot on the cart.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, he's now he is now more of a court jester and allowed to show off his personality, which is probably a lot more full.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Chad Gable.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's their Chad Gable.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is exactly what he is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And people don't want to hear that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's fine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because Chad Gable's got a very entertaining position.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Very valuable.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's yeah, you can put Chad Gable in any segment and he makes it better.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if that is the same for Ricochet because I know he grates on people's nerves in a bad way, sometimes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But to the hardcore fan base of a W, they love that stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he's perfect for that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you can say the same thing about Chad Gable for the W fans.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They love it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But for the people in that aren't W fans, they look at what a waste of Chad Gable.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, it's more a waste rather than like, oh, he's annoying.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right, but it's the same negative feeling.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, so yeah, I think we'll see that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, that's a pretty full card right there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think we named like eight matches.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We didn't talk about the women.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I don't know what's going on with Mercedes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, there's nothing obvious.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess well, Alts Windsor is actually what, but then they're doing that match already this coming week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, unless Alts Winds and they do a rematch, is it a non-title match or is it a tile match?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's a tile match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Mm.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and uh, and then Tony, I think it, I'm not even one percent positive what they're doing with Tony, like.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, Athena is the person she's feeding with.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I actually know, you know, I think it, no, it's Tecla.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They set up a, it looks like it's going to be Tecla.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Tecla and her group had a really, they could beat down Tony and her partner and they stood strong at the end of collision.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was actually really good angle at the end of collision.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I, in fact, I would recommend, I don't know if you're going to watch a whole show, but I watched last ten minutes of collision.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was awesome.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, you love it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You'll love it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Techless stood strong.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was amazing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's end this by talking about what could WWE do?

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[SPEAKER_00]: We've done a lot of talk about what can a W do?

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[SPEAKER_00]: What card could they put on to compete and to, you know, show their steal some of that visibility from WWE.

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[SPEAKER_00]: we know Brock and Cena more than likely Cody and Drew and then whatever this punk Seth Becky AJ Lee thing whatever comes out of that there's probably strong a strong idea for a match there between a mix of them and I've so I was looking like okay well what about everybody else if you were looking like let's say so on Clash in Paris they had six matches I imagine

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're probably going to match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know this for sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would imagine they're going to match AEW's one hour and they're going to try and put a match on to just compete because that's what they do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So maybe you do get an eighth match on this show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so, because I was thinking seven, because I think they're gonna go past the four-hour mark, they're not gonna allow AEW to run a long card and get a lot of, you know, really maybe all of, but the main event will be the only thing that is not competed against.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So let's say seven, let's say plus one, let's say eight matches for Russell Palusa.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We have three, and those three are long matches there, they're gonna go long,

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to give you a list of wrestlers and you tell me, yay or nay, if you think that they will be on the show, as well as if it is a yay, who they could possibly face.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And let's start with Tiffany Stratton.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'd say yay and probably against Jade.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And maybe that would be like on that one hour pre-show or whatever you're going to call it, the next hour.

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[SPEAKER_01]: OK.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Dawn Mysterio.

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[SPEAKER_01]: uh, possibly uh, I mean, it really depends on what happens today and also this in at a week before.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's glad.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Most Vegas.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'd say maybe for that reason, I'm going to say he won't actually have a match because he is kind of doing a lot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, in the middle and you know, in between these cycles, this paper of your cycle, uh, Sammy Zane.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, he just won the U.S.

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[SPEAKER_01]: title.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, and it's a candidate.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no, it's not in Canada.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Where's this show?

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[SPEAKER_01]: uh, Indianapolis, Indianapolis.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll say nay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I say they're going to put them on the SmackDown before.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But we did was there, I mean, I, you can always do a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a,

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're the tag champs, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Could you sharpen an Alexa against Oscar and Kyrie?

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[SPEAKER_01]: That'd be a good match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'd say yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you're doing eight matches, yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Bailey.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She'll be on the show in some way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Bianca Belair could she possibly return.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I actually have no idea of what I don't think so.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think so.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The brown bronze.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a tough one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, obviously, they're going to be there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They'll be on the show as a second.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, they could go for the tag team titles with a raw tag team champions.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Are there a JD and Finn, I think?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't like that, Matt.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I want to see?

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is more of a super fantasy booking match, by the way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to see the brawn bronze against Sheamus and Rusev.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're against the leach of rose.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, well, yeah, I was going to have them last next up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Penta or Phoenix.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Are they hurt?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, what's going on with those guy?

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, pantas is like on main event most weeks, um, brave Phoenix as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I don't know what's going on with them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, Phoenix, I feel like they're going to do some sort of, uh, another multi tag team match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: for the SmackDown titles.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you could see Phoenix as part of that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think Phoenix and Andrea are a great team.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're just kind of in that same midcard mix as everyone else.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like they're all great teams that do great matches and they ultimately don't matter.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it's like the Motor City Machine Guns, DIY, Street Profits, you know, they're all the same spot and it's like a treadmill and then the guys that have the belts are the by far the worst team.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, tag team champions judgment day.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We mentioned them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't think those titles will be defended on the card.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Gunther.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he's going to be out for a while yet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, we talked about EO.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, we didn't talk about EO.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I think I think EO and Rea and Stephanie in a three way for the Raw Women's title.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is that the announcement to supposed to happen today on Raw?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they're supposed to announce something today unless he pushes it back a week again, like he's done last two weeks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, that's where I think that's where I think that's going.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Jacob Fattu.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hmm.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think he'll be on the cart.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Here was my other idea for the brawn bronze.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Jay and Jimmy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hmm.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That'd be a good match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's, I mean, I don't know how you get there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're two different brands.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, that'd be, that'd be fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They could have a matching Terry cloth shorts.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, God.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Jay, Jay got so much heat for those shorts last night.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, maybe he'll make a lot of money and sell some.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But though I didn't care like they were playing Jane didn't care really.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But when when I looked I grabbed a photo one of the photos from the show for a graphic on our YouTube channel.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it is very clear that he asked sweat through those shorts.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, no.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So just they're just all sweat stain all over the place.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, LA night.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now Logan Paul.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, maybe, but I don't think they need them on this show and I can't think of anything that they could do for with them right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Randy Orton.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Gotta have Randy on the show, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, what's he doing?

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's kind of feudal Drew.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, you know what he'll show up on the show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe even turn on Cody.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That'll be interesting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm guessing no Roman based on what I heard.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I'm a wrestling observer.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I haven't heard wrestling observer, but I assume from that angle that he's off till at least perth.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They said his shooting for the Street Fighter movie, they think wraps after the paper view.

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[SPEAKER_00]: after after what's he told us.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I didn't even think it was that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, Roman's got a contract where he only has to work a certain number of dates.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, like I always, whatever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure ESPN would want him though on that show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure they wouldn't.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, if they can do it, I just don't.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just, I'm not expecting it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So another thing I would do and maybe this is actually the pre show match is if you were going to have AJ Lee on the show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You are probably going to have more women watching than normal.

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[SPEAKER_00]: More women from ten years ago.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would do something with the women and maybe about a royal or maybe a multi-woman tag where you're showcasing a lot of the young NXT women who are really good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, Sol Ruka and Jada Jordan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and Lola vice.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would do something so that this audience just doesn't feel like they're coming back for AJ.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But then they go, oh, like there's way more athletic women resting on this show than I remember ever seeing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's really cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's that's that that that might make me tune in more.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what I would do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So whether it's about a royal or a multi-women match or whatever the best NXT match you could put out there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would do that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The problem with doing it on the pre show is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: the people who are tuning in for AJ might not watch the pre show, but if you can do that, maybe if you can get it on the card as maybe like a second mattress, I don't know how you would do it, but I would like to showcase them in some way so that there's this older audience who goes, oh, like they've actually added

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[SPEAKER_00]: way more women to the show and these women are really, really good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just had a vision of a segment on NXT where Eva is talking about how she had a conference call with Nick Alders and Adam Pearson.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She gets to pick eight people from NXT to be in this battle royal and she runs down all their accomplishments and

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, and you bring some all out and Joe Gilbert loses his mind because it's a promo train.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah, writes itself.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, it would be good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah, I like, I like that idea.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we have a couple of weeks where you and I are going to be talking a lot about the build that we show so that that'll be exciting for this show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You got dynamite show with Jeff Hawkins coming on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's actually going to be away this week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's got some personal not not health related.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's fine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just some personal stuff he has to do on Wednesday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't know who's going to be co-hosting with me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, you can figure that one out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So but you'll be back Wednesday night in the in the in the in the feed Wednesday night Thursday morning for you dynamite chill fans.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I didn't have my show with big Dave on Friday, which I don't mind like I do like the break because it's a very intense Friday morning for me usually once that observer gets posted.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I enjoyed the break, but I also had so many things that I wanted to ask him about on air.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I will be able to do that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think I think we're back on

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[SPEAKER_00]: This Friday and then John the Rock and I of course Thursday night we record for Friday morning on the Wrestling Observer dot com we'll have our thoughts and I'm sure he will be glowing about this clash in Paris show right up his alley as far as the pro wrestling that he likes so we'll be able to talk a little bit about that as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And there's nothing this weekend.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, it's not it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm so I'm looking forward to it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: When's our UFC breakover?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, there's that UFC Noche and on the thirteenth, I think, and then like, but the next paper view is until like October sixth.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, gosh.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's, yeah, but like there's nothing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The NoEW, you know, W, not even a TNA show this weekend.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, there's nothing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm, oh, it's gonna be so nice.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now you can skate all caught up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm already caught up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I watched a Greek town pro wrestling show last night.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was wondering what that was.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, it's awesome.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was like, Joy Janella, PCO and some dude named Channing Decker in the main event.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Megan Bane and Alyssa K. Allison K had a four star match in the Colme.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was awesome.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's really good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we'll be back next week to talk about more of the things that these companies are doing to compete against each other.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So for Paul, I'm WG, we will see you when we see you piece out.