Dec. 13, 2025
John Cena's Last Match! WWE Saturday Night's Main Event Recap | WWE Post Game Live
Keila Cash and Scott Young break down the entire WWE Saturday Night's Main Event card on this WWE Post Game Live recap! They focus heavily on the emotional main event, analyzing John Cena's heartbreaking loss to Gunther in what was billed as the legend's final match. Tune in now for the full show review and expert analysis from the Fight Game Media family.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hello everyone, are you okay?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Are you marked safe from Johnson's last match in DC?
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[SPEAKER_01]: For Saturday night's main event, are you okay?
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's been what, approximately 90 minutes since seen as last match, are you fine?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you need a place to have a moment to yourself to compose yourself to mourn the end of a legendary career?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, we're here to help.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Welcome to a very special edition of WWE Post Game Live Live on the Fiky Media Network YouTube channel, a special Saturday night special just for you to get you through your Saturday night into your Sunday morning.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And to the beginning of a brand new week, as we get into the heart of the holiday season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we're going to try to bring some holiday cheer
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[SPEAKER_01]: to a very sad night for C-Nation.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I am here helping you through it all as your de facto therapist.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm Keela Cash, and Bob Masett is always, is my co-captain.
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[SPEAKER_01]: My right hand, my ride-a-die, these sometimes advocate for the rapidly improved Ms. Jada Parker from NXT.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I bring to you on WWE post-game live.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's not salty.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He is Perky Scott Young.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hello, Perky.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Welcome to the Mad House that is John Cena's last match in WWE.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Thank you, Keela.
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[SPEAKER_03]: As always, it's a pleasure to chop it up and talk all things WWE.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Very excited about the conversation we're going to have.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Really enjoyed the show.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The only finish I hate was the very first match, but hey, what do I know, you know, the only a dollar.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So what do I know?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I watched it for free because I'm a platinum member of Exclinity, so I paid $0 for this event, very thankful for that, but I enjoyed myself too mostly the first match irritated me because of the finish, but I thought the main event which might go down as one of the most polarizing main events in WWE history was a very good one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think there is a debate about why it happened and if it should have happened and I completely understand the argument for and against John Cena losing his last match and I'm sure it's going to be an amazing episode of WWE Unreal.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The season finale for season two whenever it drops a Netflix sometime next year and we're going to get several versions of the story
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[SPEAKER_01]: that I personally did not have a problem with the finished because I looked at the expression on John Cena's face as he tapped out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That was a man that was satisfied and content.
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[SPEAKER_01]: For the last few months he has talked about the future.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The future is now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm trying to leave this place in a better place than where I found it 20 plus years ago.
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[SPEAKER_01]: and I understand the need for people who love seen a down to have that happy closure, but he was going to give you that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He was going to be selfless at the end, and I completely understand the anger if you wanted him to win.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I'm looking at his expression on his face in that moment.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He knew.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm done.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I am content and I'm giving the right person the W in this moment.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And for all the years of SuperSena, when you wanted him to lose multiple times to get other people over in this moment, he decided to give it to someone who will be the man to say, I made John Cena give up.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, this this finish will be talked about the way we talked about undertaker and Brock like it's going to it's going to be that like people still don't think that Brock should end the district and there's an argument to be made for that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Listen.
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[SPEAKER_03]: the there was no wrong answer and that I think that's my biggest thing like if seen a would have won the place would have exploded probably talking about car potentially car to the year but seen a lost and now we we legit have a modern day legend killer we have about we have a good amount of wrestlers who are going to be retiring in the next few years AJ's already said he out
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[SPEAKER_03]: Randy didn't got too much long and in the list we'll go on and we have a guy who we can send out there every time and send them boys home and like you said, the face that scene ahead, you could tell it it looked like he satisfied he was ready.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We all know that this was probably John's call and I think that's the most important thing that we need to take away from this is if it was John's call and we're all pretty sure it was Then we need to respect that man's decision if anybody deserves the decision to choose whether they win or lose
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[SPEAKER_03]: is John Cena.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And the match in itself was a really good match.
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[SPEAKER_03]: A lot of emotion.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We got super Cena.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, God dang he kicked out a little he everything.
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[SPEAKER_03]: 20 finishes and he kicked out of eight of them.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, what are we upset about?
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[SPEAKER_03]: What are we upset about?
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I get it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The emotion, trust me, my kid was devastated.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He was crying on the couch.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I kept hearing these sniffles as I'm watching the show.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I couldn't figure out where they was coming from.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I see him under the blanket on the couch messed up.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Wouldn't open some ad in calendars.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They ate some chocolate.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Got some Pokemon cards.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And now he's ready to see Gunther get beat up.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, this is what we want.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I get it, you know,
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[SPEAKER_03]: We move on.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, that's it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We move on.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's not the end of the world.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It doesn't for me.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It doesn't take away from the show.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It doesn't take away from the match.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The match could have been elevated, but it doesn't make the match less than what it was.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It was still a really good match and a really good cap to John Cena's career.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I want to touch on this comment by internet warfare mentioning that was a look of a man who was totally ready to retire.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was, it was a man that was content to lose on the way off the door and that has been tradition for a lot of people over the years.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, Paula Vek, as the head of creative, could have overrule John Cena and said no, actually, what we're going to do is give you a heroes exit by you winning your final match and we're going to do the pomp and circumstance on the way out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And we're going to leave the people happy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He listened to John and said, well, if you want to lose, you're going to lose.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And Paul's mistake was going out there because here's the thing, here's the thing about Paul of Beck.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm going to stand on this until the end of time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He secretly hates all of us.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you go back to this year's WrestleMania's pressures and the interviews, he despises us because we push back on his booking.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he basically flipped us to bird via every interview he did.
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[SPEAKER_01]: to his very core and he is about the applause.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So even if he says, F us all day long, he will put himself out there to be cheered, to be admired, to be acknowledged, to be appreciated.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So when that finish happened, he thought these fans would appreciate me, acknowledge my greatness and my genius.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And when they said no, F you, he was a bit,
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[SPEAKER_01]: shook by that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The post show presser as well, the fans said the same thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now I will say if you watched a pre-show, I peeped it to.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So he was sitting up there and the fans wanted him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I quote,
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[SPEAKER_01]: sip the water, sip the water, we want the spray, we want the spit, he that's what they expect because you place into that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So when he goes out there for the express purpose of being
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[SPEAKER_01]: then there you are.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The question becomes, where does that energy go from here?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Are you going, are y'all going to keep it up, heading into next year's PLEs?
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[SPEAKER_01]: When it comes out there, is that, hey, going to still be there?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Or are you still going to buy tickets?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Are you still going to attend PLEs?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Are you going to still attend live events?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And these record numbers?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Put your anger where your mouth is in terms of money.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because if you're not gonna stop spending money and buying merch and tickets, that means very little to me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But if this is your breaking point, this is your red line, then do what you must.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I'm glad that some of y'all tonight woke up and gave that man the business.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because he should have guided every Sunday a weekend when he basically told all of us to go F ourselves.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm kind of one the other man.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think he thoroughly enjoys getting food.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like this is as close as he's going to get to get back in the ring and being a wrestler.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, he's one of the greatest.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He, I think he loves being food.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think he let, did you see that sinister smiley head when he hug John Cena?
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[SPEAKER_01]: That was both show.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He let the little myth.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He did.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Now, maybe the post show, you know, what he probably got somebody in the back was like, hey, man, you know, what yet you screwed up and then that might have got to them, but in the moment.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I, I think he loves the boots, like I think that dude is a genuine heel and you said it best in our discord.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You said it best.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Even if he was shook in the post show, that dude is going is going to have a drink, he's going to get on his private jet, he's going to kiss Stephanie and he's going to go home and sleep just fine.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, his AI writes up Monday night.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, you said it best on the discord.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's exactly what's gonna happen and he's gonna forget this night ever happened.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, again, everything's gonna be fine.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Shout out to Fernando in the chat as well.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But everything's gonna be fine.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, now, people calling for events and stuff like that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, let's let's take it easy.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Let's take it easy.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I get it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Edge got the win his last match and and Canada.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Vincent really think that man was leaving.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He think that man was going to the comp.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He thought he was going to come back.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's one of the easy.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He got the win back.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That was that was the, hey, man, you win this.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You come on back.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Triple Lager's like, nah, just in case.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Listen, ask him for Vince back as wild.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Why?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I want to add it to your old scene now, man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Back, what?
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[SPEAKER_01]: To do what?
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[SPEAKER_01]: to do what to do, what to do, what to do, what to do, what to do, what to do, what to do, what to do, what to do, what to do, what to do, what to do, what to do, what to do, what to do, what to do, what to do, what to do, what to do, what to do, what to do, what to do, what to do, what to do, what to do, what to do, what to do, what to do, what to do, what to do, what to do, what to do, what to do, what to do, what to do, what to do, what to do, what to do, what to do, what to do, what to do, what to do, what to do, what to do, what to do, what to do, what to do, what to do, what to do, what to do, what to do, what to do, what to do, what to do, what to do
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[SPEAKER_01]: secret service is on site.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So when I saw the people out there six o'clock properly, I said, we can get a worry about nobody's showing up this sus, you know, there's going to ruin the vibes.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I already told you that Donald was going to be sitting in his limo watching show.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I told you that are the rap that dude was not coming in the building anyway.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He probably already knew the finish like, yeah, I won't be there for that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Y'all ain't going to have no ride and then show me on
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so all things have worried it, we saw Vince via a video package.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I did laugh that that was the most emotion scene I showed, because despite all of Vince's many, many, many, many, many sense he's a Vince stand.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I have my own thoughts on that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm, you know, whatever, whatever you choose, see, you know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Whatever you choose to do in terms of who your friends with good for you because you know one face and Vince has many faces and the face you saw is probably a lovely face he and my cup of tea.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm never going to be like, oh.
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[SPEAKER_01]: please.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, never.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But you do you boo, you do you and you cry over that man and you do what you must.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I did laugh.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That was the most emotiony show because they really watch that video package.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Listen, this lady's people happy with something and Paul of it was getting booed.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I had a great hearty laugh because I was like, finally, y'all mad y'all are mad with him about something and
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[SPEAKER_01]: You shouldn't be mad at him six months ago, because that's when y'all really should have went off.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because he basically took all of us to go to hell during WrestleMania weekend, collectively.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And we cheer that man when he came out there at WrestleMania, got the pops, the applause that made it a whole two-hour Hall of Fame speech, put everybody to sleep and y'all still celebrate this man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm glad we reached our limit tonight.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This was the one thing that unified us and said enough.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that was probably the one mistake.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like he didn't have to come out.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I was in his mind he did, but it could have just been punk and Cody, they could have came out, the belts thing they did, and then, you know, they could have went right to the video.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So like I said, it is what it is.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, it's over now where we're gonna dissect it, we're gonna talk about it, but we move on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, we do and internet warfare taps in again, saying the WWE can't wait to bring them back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They just don't want him booking.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, they do have this
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[SPEAKER_01]: interesting prospect of if they settled the lawsuit with Geno Grant with that, open the door for Vince to reappear on WWE television.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Brock is back on TV for now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Depends how the lawsuit goes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a lot at play here, a lot of stake.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And also the people who are in charge, Paul event, Stephanie McMahon, the question becomes, how is that relationship for him to be back on WWE television?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Is he going to be indebted into the WWE Hall of Fame while he's alive?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Honestly, don't know, I just think those dynamics with the family
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[SPEAKER_01]: when it comes to Stephanie and Triple H is so strained, that you might not see him on TV anytime.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So if ever, again, short of his passing and all likelihood, I hate to say that, but I'm thinking about this strife goes deep.
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[SPEAKER_01]: within his own family.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it feels like a family divided because you have shame and even there, just tweeting online, a congrats John Cena.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So sides are being taken here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just don't know how it's going to go, but T. K. L. And how Stephanie and Paul live.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel about this ultimately.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, shame is there.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He was in the crowd.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Ladies and gentlemen, just like they did the other night, he was in the background and wanted him shots.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He was there, but I think what they'll do with Vince is they'll end up inducting the McMahon family.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And that'll be, I think that's going to be how they ease that into it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And then he'll get his own induction.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They'll see how the reaction is when he comes out.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's, that's how I see it happen.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They're not.
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[SPEAKER_03]: that crazy to think that they can just vault him out.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He's that crazy because you saw what he was doing before he got popped.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He's that crazy.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if Nick Khan and Triple H are that crazy to do that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So we'll see.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't think so either.
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[SPEAKER_01]: just a different era and WWE and sponsors are very vocal because remember Slim Jim was like I'm out if this man is still here and they had to get rid of him before the warrior rumble a couple of years ago.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So you have to take that into account as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Even though even if they settle this lawsuit, a sponsor still fill away about Vince and there is a side of that family,
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[SPEAKER_01]: very close that fill a way about him too because he effectively pushed his daughter and son-in-law out of power and when the news leaked three years ago, you wonder who did it?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I still think it was Triple A to Stephanie that leaked the stories to the Wall Street Journal.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's going to come out.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It was all shame, man.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Everything is going to come back to shame.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It was all shame.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm telling you, shame, it's the one pulling all these trees.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We go find out that he's been the mastermind behind this whole thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I look forced that day because it's giving succession, WWE edition for sure.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Regarding all of this, it's just playing out over the last two or three years.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But let's get to the main show, Saturday Night's main event, going down live from the
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[SPEAKER_01]: during the entire special.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was the make a wish segment before the show.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I cried.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I ugly cried.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The stories were very heartwarming and touching.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It got to me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I almost cried again when I saw Kevin Owens in the crowd.
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[SPEAKER_01]: and seen a embraced her mark before the match that got me to because Kevin was just there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know where at the last minute and seen a saw him hugged him up and I was like, that got me to.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But otherwise, I basically kept my emotions in check.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, if seen a talk during the post match, I think it would have gotten me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But he just said, let the video package speak for itself, let the loss speak volumes and let me go in peace.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I, I, during his entrance, I, that's when I, it started to hit me a little bit, started to get a little emotional.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, my, and, you know, right before one of them tears decide to try to peep down my son, the right, I mean, you look, that what you're doing, you crying.
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[SPEAKER_03]: What you got going on over there?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Nassan, I had something in my eye, man, and I'm worried about me.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So, but not, I thought they did a real good job with the presentation.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Really enjoyed every match, we had everyone talking about, you know, what John meant to him and all this stuff.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So, yeah, I think, I think the show,
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[SPEAKER_03]: was really good and they did a really good job of building the anticipation and his insurance was everything, him turning the camera on Stu, Lily and Garcia did a great job with the introduction, especially keeping it together because I know she was emotional too and you could tell and he gave her a little rub on the back.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I thought she did a great job.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, I think the whole presentation of the night was really well done.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, hi Maria welcome in and yes, it was a historic night an end of an era that I think that we all live through From start to finish and I've been watching wrestling for over 25 years and this was probably the longest run.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I've seen someone have in my lifetime
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[SPEAKER_01]: in terms of being a constant from beginning to end with the few gaps in between, but he was a constant.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I will say that during John Cena's time when it went under-appreciated, he basically got the lights on for WWE.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The word that stuck out to be the most was the turn of the century.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was a phrase that Jesse the body ventured said, the turn of the century, the turn of the 21st century, who was a guy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And we was
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[SPEAKER_01]: to ruthless aggression, and you had Austin and the rock transitioning out of WWE, Triple H's reign of terror, but he wasn't that guy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He wasn't the guy, and that guy ultimately became John Cena, and for all of the resentment and pushback from fans that were tired of him at the time, he kept the lights on in WWE.
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[SPEAKER_01]: During a time when things could have collapsed, like the early
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[SPEAKER_01]: Do the highs and lows this guy was steady and consistent through it all and I will respect him for that, especially now.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I don't think that's talked about enough.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You mentioned the Ruthless Aggression Era.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think what's even more impressive is to go from the attitude era, the Ruthless Aggression, and then go to the G era.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, forget the PG era.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They were in the G era, I mean, like, it was a complete home shift.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Everything about it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So for him to be able to do that and then bring the intensity when he needed to be able,
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[SPEAKER_03]: Every John John brought a big match feel, and Michael Cole, you know, talked about JBL calling him big match John, and that really became his moniker, like when whenever John scene is showed up, it became a big match, so it's besides Roman, it's not a lot of guys who bring that type of feel every time they show up on on screen, so it was
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it was great to look back and think about it, but there was a long time when people weren't rocking with them, but I'm glad that he's gotten the appreciation that he deserves now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: For sure, and I'll talk later about the moment when the appreciation really kicked in.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And we'll get to that in just a bit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But let's talk about the show itself.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now I'll literally do a great job with the introduction for seeing this last match.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She did a fantastic job with the National Anthem to kick off the show.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She was just on point all night long, rose to the occasion for this very special moment.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we got the video package of Johnson's career, the goat.
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[SPEAKER_01]: showcasing other goats like Michael Jordan, Serena Williams, tackle woods, Tom Brady, the goats of the goats, Simone Biles, a goats of their respective sports, and how John Cena compares to that goat status.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he is really one of the greatest to ever do it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The resume, the accolades, the accomplishments speaks for itself in every way.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then we cut to our first match.
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[SPEAKER_01]: which was the undisputed WWE Champion Cody Rose versus the NXT Champion Obofimi and I go back to the night before on SmackDown.
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[SPEAKER_01]: NXT is seen on the CW by approximately over half a million people every Tuesday night.
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[SPEAKER_01]: and the fans in Pennsylvania to DC knew who Olba Fimi was.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They recognized Orah immediately off top.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They chance it as name did the audible halt like they was into it from the getting to
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[SPEAKER_01]: main roster style was everything and Oberfemi carried himself like an absolute star.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The match itself was very good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Love the physicality.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Love Ober's dominant Cody's fight from underneath hitting his cutters and then when Ober ran on the outside and delivered it up a cut that busted Cody's ear open.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That was a
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[SPEAKER_01]: Tasting his own blood.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, let me go super cutter on you, hit that clean for a new fall.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then just when this match is peaking, we're an Easter go.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Drew McIntyre comes out and super tight jeans, attacks, coady, automatically for the DQ, and I'm like, really, wow, tight G. They were tight.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They were super tight.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They were very, very moving.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Jiggins, you know, they were super tight.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Cabelli moved, I mean, like, serve.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you want to be more mobile, get you some looser jeans just saying.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Great, so he comes out there, a piece of codey.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Ober's offended like you take it my moment away.
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[SPEAKER_01]: My time is now, your time was then.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All of my business, taking this moment for me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So he shoves Drew and then codey at Ober double team, Drew McIntyre, and they stand tall and they shake hands.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Lovely, code act, harm mark moment.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I hated the finish.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, what a way to write the fence.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, since we don't want Cody or Oberluzing, let's just have Drew McIntyre come out in an unsafe work environment, allegedly, and cost us a very good match.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This finished Bob and me greatly.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, everybody's upset about seeing and tapping, but anybody mad about Drew McIntyre coming out room and in this match, making make sense.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But listen, one thing I will say that
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[SPEAKER_03]: Drew McIntyre is a really big dude because open's not a small man.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like Cody's not a small man either.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But like I definitely was not expecting Drew McIntyre to kind of tower over Oberlin like that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like that was that was a little jarring to me.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I if this leads to Drew McIntyre showing up on the CW and us getting a nice little short program between him and Oberlin.
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[SPEAKER_03]: not opposed to it, especially if maybe you get an appearance from Cody, you know, since he won't show up on Friday, maybe Cody shows up on Tuesday, like, as long as there's follow up, like, I still want to see a finish to that match.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think Oprah presented himself, well, I think it was very telling that you said like the crowd was reacting to him.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They were moving with him.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, Oprah's ready.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Hope was ready.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think he's just holding that title for Javan the comment, take it somewhere down the road.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, strong match and Claudio would have been very proud of that European uppercut that over through on the outside.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Claudia would have like brought a cup of coffee, poured it, and sipped it, and said delicious.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Would it text a John Cena during the show and said, I love that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I love that for me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I love that for the future because the uppercut was clean and gnarly and nasty.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oprah is ready.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He is ready.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like the fans recognize,
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[SPEAKER_01]: greatness when they see it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're already rocking with him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And now you see this possibility of Obo versus Drew McIntyre on NXT, maybe at a PLE.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I would love to see it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then you do what you do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What PLE?
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[SPEAKER_01]: When in XTPO league, we got vengeance day, we got vengeance day, or you could do like regular NXT TV and label it something, name it something and go with that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Or, you know, we have the possibility again of Ober versus Cody, which is inconclusive.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You can go back to that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like this was like a test run of what could be which I love and the chemistry was there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: this guy is undeniable.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You see the vision.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he's a two time in XE champion.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Is he being wasted on an XE television?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Are they delaying his push up to the main roster?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe if they can get through the next four months.
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[SPEAKER_01]: after San and Deliver, they need to call him up or you pull the kale and let him move like on the main roster and NXT.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He could all today, if you want him to do that, but this needs to be an immediate call up by the spring.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The answers clear, the fans know him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They recognize how good he is and I think he is viable for a good push in WWE via the main roster.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and I mean, hopefully, you know, hopefully more people won't want to see him and we'll tune into NXT because NXT still does need the eyeballs.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They still have a station.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They need to keep happy.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I guess I said, I just think he's holding that title until they're ready to have Javan come and take it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: All I know is that
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[SPEAKER_03]: Tony D, but then I'd be cutting up nobody's hat and throwing up like stuff all over open when it no more matches.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That better not be the in-game of this.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm gonna tell you that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let me tell you something.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What I better not see is Tony D versus Obo at San and Deliver.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, with a fedora on a pole match.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're not doing that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I love Tony D, but no, like we were done here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're done.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, you beat him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, you have congratulations to you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But this is Javans time if we're delaying it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we're getting it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Give it to me.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We're going to go over the majority.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's happening.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We can do it at a vengeance.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Stay if you're all like.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You can do it at a random television show.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You can do it at the theater at MSG, wherever you like to go to do this match.
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[SPEAKER_01]: By all means, it better not be at a stand and deliver.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know that because I will not be standing for that match, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: What I will be delivering is my heartbreak on the air if I see it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because no, like we have delayed Javans moment for the last year or so.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And we're going through some severe growing pains.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So what I don't want is for us to get played in this situation.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm tired of being played.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I want me to slow roll and slow burn this cool, but the end result, but to be Javans winning in Las Vegas and April.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: No, I don't want you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's, it's time to crown the 21 year old, making the face, keeping melanated, and I'm what it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, me as well, hit at the finish, but very good match for what it was until drew two tight jeans, McIntyre came out there and caused the interference to end the match.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Two tight jeans though.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, two tight Levi's two tight Levi's man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Listen, two tight to move.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Gotta get some breathable, movable jeans that give you the opportunity
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[SPEAKER_03]: Let me ask you a question real quick before we move on.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Is Drew on his way out?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like are we about to see him show up as all elite?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, because my man is just like just take it out, just get beat up by everybody, just sitting in letters, the nick all this.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, is he on his way out?
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[SPEAKER_01]: He reupt supposedly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So if he reupt for multiple years, for X and I'm love dollars, which I think is a lot of money, then he's here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: next year, great for him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But the booking has been suspicious for a very long time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm begging at this point for a face turn because this is getting ridiculous.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'll honestly, this man is going to lose the code again.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's why I hate this feud.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's going to lose again, probably on the first smack down of 2026.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Why are you yacking my chain on this?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Why are you torturing me?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's move on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's not going to win.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's move on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But
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[SPEAKER_01]: a last they won't let this go.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we are where we are, but he's resigned and he reopt and he's got his money.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So he's stuck indefinitely unless Hollywood comes calling.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, sure that get your bag.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, so good for him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Love me some Drew McIntyre.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Y'all know I do, but this booking is us.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I can't stand it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But moving on to a happier match, a better match that lifted my spirit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's it was so
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[SPEAKER_01]: The DC crowd got the sole Rooka experience for her doing things that not a lot of people are able to do the agility, the athleticism, the innovation, the creativity of what she does and the ring and press the crowd.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You heard the ooze and all that,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Awes, they were going off for so Ruka and Bailey is as seasoned veteran that was a great base that just hit the spots accordingly and had you on the edge of your seat when you thought that you had the win and that oops so comes through and then we got the soul snatch out of nowhere Bailey being dead weight so container and then she gets to victory with a roll up leverage pen.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I love this and the fans.
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[SPEAKER_01]: getting up for soul and seeing, wow, she's got something she's special.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I've been saying this for the last year or so.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So Ruka is going to be such a game changer on the main roster because nobody can do what she does and such a very slick.
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[SPEAKER_01]: and creative way.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She's the future.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She needs more reps, more experience, but she's grown so much in the last year that is just not all about the flash.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There are substance there as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's only gonna get better.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And Bailey was a great person to get her through this match.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And thank God there wasn't any interference from Lyra or Zarya, thank the Lord.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so a Rooka does things that male or female, there's probably two or three people that can do.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Especially when you talk about main roster, there's probably nobody that's doing what she's doing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: EOS sky may be the best female wrestler on the roster and has argument for best wrestler period in the company.
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[SPEAKER_03]: She's not doing what Soul Rook is doing out there.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The moon saw it to the outside, the handstand into the hurricane run,
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[SPEAKER_03]: I watched the whole show with my kids and let me tell you, she came out and they had no idea who she was.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They was like, what's up with her and when she hit that handstand off top, they were hooked.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I mean, everything else she was doing, they were rocking with her.
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[SPEAKER_03]: She, she absolutely is the future.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Triple H doesn't know she's half black.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So we have a real good shot of her being pushed really hard on the main roster.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I love that for her.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I can't say enough about this match.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like the NXT, everyone from NXT really showed up and showed out.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I thought they came away really well.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And Bailey, like you said, Bailey was the perfect person to have this match with.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Can take the loss and it doesn't affect anything for Soul Ruka gained a lot by the win.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She did.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This was a great spotlight moment for her.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You ain't shit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What you said, but you're not wrong.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, I'm wrong.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Continue to fly under the radar.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Make Triple H never figure this out because if he does, he will see color at that point and then we have to be concerned so we have to be very mindful that's why she not invite her parents and then she her parents were there you know why just like yeah listen not yet not yet okay when we don't see W all can come but not not yet not here not yet.
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[SPEAKER_01]: so an all seriousness.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that she's undeniable.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like you can deny like what she's meant to be on the main roster.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I agree with Fernando, she's going to revolutionize women's wrestling.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I've sent this for a while now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that she is ready made for the main roster that no one can do what she does.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just so different and creative and innovative and the fans are going to love her.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you heard that reaction.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They might not have known her in the beginning, but by the end,
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[SPEAKER_01]: They was on every nail falling.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You felt to the so snatcher and the positioning of it was perfection.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Bailey was there like we just going to have a choreograph like I'm going to lean into it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You're going to hit me out of nowhere like an RKO and it was perfection and I just really dug the match.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You felt like it was a turn in a good way for what the feature is going to be when so gets that nod to get the call up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She's going to be a special special talent when the
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, they definitely made the right decision and having soul in this match and not Kalani boredom.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Definitely, definitely made the right decision because soul is the one.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like she is going to be that, like she is literally ricochet of the women's division, like she can do literally anything she wants.
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[SPEAKER_03]: She's incredible.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, amazing, now, pause.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to let up on Kalani a little bit, okay?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, I have converted slightly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Kalani is a great heal in the ring, as a wrestler.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, as a promo and personality, we need help within a little assistant Jesus to get us over the hump.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But what we're not going to do, Scott,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now he'll work in the ring, tins, personality and promo, too.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Listen, you know, you know, I'm a harder person to convert.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It took me a long time to start giving Naomi the respect that she deserves.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, she started from a drawstring bag and now she don't work the way to be in that girl.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So it's good to take a Lonnie board.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm a little bit of time for me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, and I've converted everyone to Scott's hated.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I converted live and Naomi.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I have performed miracles.
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[SPEAKER_01]: My next one is Dom.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's almost there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like he's almost on the verge of being converted.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm three for three y'all.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I know how to get him over to my side to my way of thinking.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It took me three years for Scott to still out on Naomi three.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, you like start see the vision.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't see it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He wasn't denial.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He was.
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[SPEAKER_01]: a perpetual professional hate her and deep down he wasn't hating her he knew I was right he just couldn't say I was right and it's so he knew I was right he just couldn't admit it it it just could paint him and when I when Naomi did the turn he had no choice it was like damn it I have technology
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[SPEAKER_03]: She absolutely became one deniable when she lost her mind and started talking about all the things that her and big gym were doing when the cameras were rolling I was like, you know what she got it
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, great year for Naomi.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We need her back in the women's division in 2026 or 2027.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Need her, we need her back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But a great showcase is so Ruka.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Great preview of what the future can be for the women's division in WWE.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Then our next match was a sprint, but an exciting one with Javan Evans and Leon Slater, our exhibition champion versus the World Tag Team Champions from Monday Night Raw, the phenomenal AJ Styles and Dragon Lee, and this match started hot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The fans also a little unfamiliar with Leon Slater, but they knew Javan, but when they saw those brothers cook, they were into it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Got it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is awesome chant.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They were flying.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They were doing everything to get that pop and applause and get that love.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And they were cooking.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was really, really good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then AJ was trying to hit the, was trying to hit the,
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[SPEAKER_01]: South's plash only oscillator a couple of times to know a veil goes for the phenomenal for arm AJ slips and falls.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Was it a mistake?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Was it in the match plans?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, but they recovered and ultimately AJ hit the South's plash on the oscillator to get the W and I was like, it was a little sad by the finish, but I think that we're going to see AJ in TNA.
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[SPEAKER_01]: before you retire, on AMC, I have to get that AMC bag.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I do see AJ versus Leonce later one on one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I do sense that, we got like a little tease of it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to see it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to see it and Javan, you know, he is next up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: is next goal is to become an XChampion, preferably Asan and Deliver and Las Vegas and a few months time will fan so be up for it in four months.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll see, but for what this was, it was a 10-minute sprint, but it was a lot of fun.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it was a lot of fun.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Another nice win for Dragon, the NHA Lee, who are slowly becoming one of the better teams in WWE.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And we'll talk about a little bit later, but there's a pretty significant reason why Javon got as good of a reaction as he did.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He got a little help from Friday night, but we'll talk about that a little bit later because a certain someone is just really good at getting people over.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Probably the third best match on the show.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I agree with almost everything you said, because you're trying it again, because I have ears and I have eyes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I watch the same show you watch last night on USA.
42:40.597 --> 42:44.882
[SPEAKER_01]: I watch SmackDown and these fans and Pennsylvania.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, they were pro someone else during that match surprisingly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So which irritated me like they did not fully understand the assignment.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then they almost didn't understand the assignment tonight because I need to let it go.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Got to let it go, let this man go, let it go.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We don't get to miss ass right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So miss comes out there in his WrestleMania 27 year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: as if it's 2011 to torment me because he's a reason why we do not have another WrestleMania in Atlanta to this day.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We got a brand new beautiful stadium and we can't have shit in it because he ruined WrestleMania 27 because he doesn't remember it because he got concussed.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So he comes out there saying
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[SPEAKER_00]: I deserve my moment in the sun, and I had a Mexican's John Cena, it was submitted to myself that I don't remember.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I won, and I at least remember what I had on to a point.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I want my natural moment, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't care.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So our truth comes out there dressed as John Cena.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he's like, I saw what you did to Nick audaces balls.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Paul's.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So he perceives, say, this is who would have won the John Cena raffle.
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[SPEAKER_01]: For the redo match, and it was Joe Hendry, Joe Hendry, who apparently Choc, you know, likes a lot, got the rub on this show, takes off the Miss.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank God.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I'm going to push back on Scott.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So he said that Javon got this amazing moment against Michael Mazzanan.
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[SPEAKER_01]: These fans and Wilkes Bear, Pennsylvania, was cheering for this old veteran over Javon.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I heard it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I heard it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I heard it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So lies.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He didn't get anybody over.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He got himself over and irritates me and for the love of God, Carmelo stay away from him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Stay away.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Stay away.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Listen, man, can't deny greatness, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Did they want you told me about Naomi?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Can't deny greatness.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, my God.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is not what you're talking about.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They can't shake it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Hey, shout out the mic, man.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Shout out the mic, Miss Anon.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Who did with Triple H?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Sean Michaels, Cody Rhodes, Big Show, Edge, would none of them could do.
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[SPEAKER_03]: beat John Cena, Russell Mania for the title, shout out the mic, the miss, two time grand slam champion win.
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[SPEAKER_03]: John Cena just completed his first shout out to Mike, the miss.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It was just still just chugging along, getting cheered.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And listen, if Javan needs to might be his aerial adversary, we all know Mike and fly, we've seen him fly with the best of them.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Joe Hendry you want to get over go hang out with Mike you'll get you over look at our truth he's done well since my his head I'm in that title of WrestleMania shout out to Mike man glad he got to be on the show I'm disgusted Let's quickly move on from this topic because I am not here for any of this
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[SPEAKER_01]: fans don't know ball apparently don't know ball.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I've no taste in ball at all.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was a war jar.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not going to lie.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Even they were keen that they were cheering that man.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like the bouncy one.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was a good cheer.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was a little jar.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll give you even you who who is the biggest miss Homer in the world.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There is no one quite like you that loves this man like you do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And even you sat back and you said damn.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, Aurora, this ain't the time even you knew in your heart like you know what I love Mike
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[SPEAKER_01]: this anthem for this kind of love, you know, is Javans time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what was in the water the last 48 hours, but uh, no, what we're not going to do is lionize the miss because Jocelyn is retiring.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Listen, we are losing our legends, pit by pit ages getting to them and they're retiring.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But what we're not going to do is get miss over at the expense of younger talent that
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[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely not even Scott realizes you know what even for me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's a bridge too far I think I'm a big Evan's guy like I I'm I'm fully behind him and whatever they give him but it was like Like what what what we got Do we need to start asking the real questions about this town like what's yes?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like what we got going on around here.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Do we do we need to start asking the difficult questions like
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[SPEAKER_02]: Is there a reason you're not sharing your fun like do I know the reason do we want to talk about that or do we just want to move on.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, that was my first always.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we know why you're not sharing your bond.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm glad that you could put your biases aside and realize, even that do not quite feel right in that moment.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was like, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, let's get to the end of the show, the last match of John Cena versus Gunther, and the presentation in terms of seeing it coming out is great.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Him and Stu having a moment, seeing them make us way down to the ring,
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[SPEAKER_01]: gets out of the ring, hugs the people in the crowd, trash, Eve, Chattabiscuits, Book of Tea, Kevin Owens, that did get me when they hugged up, Sammy Zane, Sammy Sun, which was hyped so adorable.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Love that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, Cena was embracing his colleagues, peers,
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[SPEAKER_01]: beautiful moment, gotten the ring, little into the introductions as you said.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then this match got going and Gunther and John Cena told a great story.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was a story about Will Cena give up and his last match, something he has never done.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He never quits.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He never gives up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: On this night, Cena would give up in what way.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I love the near falls.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I love the AA attempts and the kickouts and gunk hitting the power bomb and seeing the kicking out, the counters, the sleeper being this deadly submission hold in 2025 and seeing the fighting out of that and going for the STF and then
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[SPEAKER_01]: We have going for the AA which Michael Cole called the FU going old school on that and then we got the last sleeper hold on John Cena and he tried to power through as he did before try to rise up, but he just simply looked content at piece smiled as he tapped out and the crowd.
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[SPEAKER_01]: was not happy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They were very unhappy because they thought that Cena was going to win.
49:54.067 --> 49:57.717
[SPEAKER_01]: And that understand their anger and their shock.
49:58.258 --> 50:01.226
[SPEAKER_01]: But John Cena is selfless in this way.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They is going to get other people over.
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[SPEAKER_01]: on the way out the door.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's like, I don't need this W. Gunther needs it more.
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[SPEAKER_01]: In the last six months, he's retired Goberg and John Cena.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That is a hell of an accomplishment.
50:16.951 --> 50:32.252
[SPEAKER_01]: And with the pending retirements of AJ Styles and maybe Brock Lesnar and in Randy's time is also coming
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[SPEAKER_01]: We talk about redacted all the time in terms of why I see here, but I want a brown breaker, an Oprah family, a gumther to finish him.
50:43.982 --> 50:48.106
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what she want for the majority of our time is fans.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The person who was on their way out loses their last match.
50:53.291 --> 50:55.613
[SPEAKER_01]: Of course you want them to have a happy ending.
50:55.973 --> 50:56.474
[SPEAKER_01]: I get it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But think about who does that benefit?
51:00.397 --> 51:09.880
[SPEAKER_01]: the person is leaving or the person needs to rub a bit more by adding set career and John seeing the thought about that and that's why you tapped out.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and you know,
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think, again, and we talked about it earlier, I think the most important thing is you got to remember this is probably John's call, and that's, you got to give that man the respect.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Also shout out to Elias.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Definitely wasn't expecting to see him in the crowd either.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So that was cool.
51:32.510 --> 51:34.673
[SPEAKER_03]: Eve, you want to talk about cheddar biscuit.
51:34.694 --> 51:35.475
[SPEAKER_03]: She can have them all.
51:36.236 --> 51:39.742
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, and, but this was, I mean, the match was really good.
51:39.782 --> 51:41.004
[SPEAKER_03]: Really strong match.
51:41.024 --> 51:44.309
[SPEAKER_03]: Now, I'm not going to lie when he did the smile for a second.
51:44.329 --> 51:46.092
[SPEAKER_03]: I thought he was about to go super say and scene.
51:46.292 --> 51:50.359
[SPEAKER_03]: And I thought he was just going to lift them up and just hit the hit about five or six AAs.
51:51.060 --> 51:52.122
[SPEAKER_03]: But we got what we got.
51:52.162 --> 51:56.188
[SPEAKER_03]: And now when Gunther comes, when Gunther comes out,
51:56.877 --> 52:12.196
[SPEAKER_03]: On Monday Night Raw, the next time he comes out, he probably will have an opportunity to pull the Roman Roman Roman Reigns as greatest promos he ever cut was when he stood in the middle of the ring after he beat the Undertaker and just soaked it in.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Didn't say a word.
52:14.199 --> 52:16.782
[SPEAKER_03]: That's probably one of the greatest promos he ever cut.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Gunther can do that.
52:18.925 --> 52:26.074
[SPEAKER_03]: Now Gunther has something to brag about and as long as they do Gunther the way they did Brock after Brock ended the streak.
52:27.151 --> 52:29.260
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, there's nothing wrong with this.
52:29.661 --> 52:32.071
[SPEAKER_03]: You want through now just to start running through people.
52:32.413 --> 52:34.461
[SPEAKER_03]: And I know to get plans for the title.
52:34.913 --> 52:40.903
[SPEAKER_03]: me personally, man, I'm shifting everything the gun through and I'm I'm probably sending gun through to smack down and go after Cody.
52:41.043 --> 52:41.784
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, why not?
52:42.305 --> 52:52.101
[SPEAKER_03]: I had now as the time to just feed people to gun through, let that man just become who he's supposed to be and that is the new dominant heel on the entire roster.
52:52.542 --> 52:54.164
[SPEAKER_03]: So we'll see what they do.
52:54.184 --> 52:56.108
[SPEAKER_03]: The follow up is absolutely important.
52:56.949 --> 52:59.453
[SPEAKER_03]: If Cena was going to win, it could have been anybody.
52:59.433 --> 53:02.798
[SPEAKER_03]: It could have been dumb, it could have been LA night, it really wouldn't have mattered.
53:03.058 --> 53:06.202
[SPEAKER_03]: But because it was Gunther, who's already retired Goldberg.
53:06.603 --> 53:17.117
[SPEAKER_03]: Like you mentioned, there's a whole list of legends and future Hall of Famers that are going to be retiring that if they're smart, they're just going to let him be their final match.
53:17.498 --> 53:18.319
[SPEAKER_03]: Again,
53:18.704 --> 53:38.907
[SPEAKER_03]: We have a modern day legend killer like we can that is a gimmick that can be built that can be used and that will work it worked that was one of the biggest reasons Randy you haven't got over as the young killer was because he was a legend kill he was beating all the legends he was taking them all out one by one and it got him over so quickly with the crowd
53:39.173 --> 53:42.858
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't understand what the pushback is with Gunther doing that.
53:43.238 --> 53:48.164
[SPEAKER_03]: Again, I get it, everybody want to see that I have the fairy book tail, the fairy tail lending.
53:48.765 --> 53:51.468
[SPEAKER_03]: But in his eyes, this was his fairy tail lending.
53:51.488 --> 53:53.791
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, he's done everything.
53:53.931 --> 53:54.993
[SPEAKER_03]: He didn't need to win this.
53:55.293 --> 53:56.254
[SPEAKER_03]: He did the right thing.
53:57.015 --> 53:58.998
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm satisfied with it.
53:59.478 --> 54:02.002
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm satisfied with the booze we got afterwards.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The arguments that followed,
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, this, the emotion that you get, I mean, that the emotion is what you want.
54:09.502 --> 54:14.192
[SPEAKER_03]: You want the emotion and it's, I think it's going to make people want to see what's going to happen next.
54:14.232 --> 54:14.714
[SPEAKER_03]: We've got there.
54:14.734 --> 54:17.300
[SPEAKER_03]: It's going to make people want to see what the follow-up's going to be.
54:18.121 --> 54:21.870
[SPEAKER_03]: And you mentioned it in the discord that we have.
54:22.407 --> 54:24.513
[SPEAKER_03]: What is really going to be telling?
54:24.553 --> 54:28.744
[SPEAKER_03]: Because the Royal Rumble, the WrestleMania, all that sells itself.
54:29.346 --> 54:37.328
[SPEAKER_03]: What's really going to be telling about the crowd and the people who are angry and oh, we're so mad about everything that's going on.
54:38.472 --> 54:39.573
[SPEAKER_03]: Let's see if you tune in.
54:39.854 --> 54:43.318
[SPEAKER_03]: Let's see if you're still paying attention to what's going on next month.
54:43.338 --> 54:49.085
[SPEAKER_03]: Let's see if you are tuning into that first raw and seeing punk and brown breaker go at it.
54:49.305 --> 54:53.650
[SPEAKER_03]: Like you're still tuning in, you still care, we move on.
54:54.611 --> 54:56.394
[SPEAKER_03]: You get upset, we move on.
54:57.074 --> 54:58.696
[SPEAKER_03]: It's just what happens.
54:59.197 --> 55:00.058
[SPEAKER_03]: It sports.
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[SPEAKER_01]: life.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It goes on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It happens.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We cope.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We deal new move on because yes, I mean, the ending is polarizing some people loved it.
55:13.493 --> 55:14.355
[SPEAKER_01]: Some people hated it.
55:14.475 --> 55:17.379
[SPEAKER_01]: I understand it, but this was Jocelyn's decision.
55:17.439 --> 55:19.341
[SPEAKER_01]: Paula Vecca de Borotam is in no.
55:19.722 --> 55:24.348
[SPEAKER_01]: We're not going to do that, but he decided to agree with it and ate the booze in the process.
55:24.468 --> 55:27.632
[SPEAKER_01]: And that is something he asked to deal with for
55:27.612 --> 55:29.113
[SPEAKER_01]: a very long time apparently.
55:29.133 --> 55:32.216
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm very happy that Sina went out in his terms.
55:32.657 --> 55:43.968
[SPEAKER_01]: He put someone over on the way out and realize this guy is going to greatly benefit from this as beating me on the way out the door, losing to the miss.
55:44.669 --> 55:46.250
[SPEAKER_01]: Please stop.
55:47.131 --> 55:47.671
[SPEAKER_01]: Be for real.
55:47.792 --> 55:48.953
[SPEAKER_01]: That was losing to Gunther.
55:49.053 --> 55:49.854
[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no, went.
55:50.194 --> 55:52.236
[SPEAKER_01]: Please for you for you.
55:52.276 --> 55:53.417
[SPEAKER_01]: You were happy.
55:54.140 --> 55:56.523
[SPEAKER_01]: for you, you would be over the moon, but let's be real.
55:57.003 --> 56:08.956
[SPEAKER_01]: But in this moment, Gunther needed this a bit more, and it establishes him as someone that should be taken very seriously as a guy that can end your favorite career at any given moment.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, when someone's careers on the line, and there might be a tournament, you better be scared Gunther's going to win it, because if he is by by career to ever win that match.
56:21.916 --> 56:35.520
[SPEAKER_03]: And not even to not even a tournament just when somebody's like yeah, this is gonna be my last year You know, we'll go up and then you're just gonna hear gunk thers music and everybody's like, oh, no It's gonna be one of those like it's it's ready.
56:35.540 --> 56:41.371
[SPEAKER_03]: AJ already said he's retired So when AJ's like he had it and that's gonna be my last match and then here comes gunk ther.
56:42.052 --> 56:43.915
[SPEAKER_03]: Hey, you said you last match great.
56:44.036 --> 56:45.358
[SPEAKER_03]: I'll be there
56:45.338 --> 56:46.980
[SPEAKER_03]: That's you got something right there.
56:47.000 --> 56:50.045
[SPEAKER_03]: So again, Gunther gets something from it.
56:50.445 --> 56:55.092
[SPEAKER_03]: He gets to be the guy that in the John scene this career just like Dominic Mysterio.
56:55.432 --> 56:58.296
[SPEAKER_03]: Let's not act like Dominic Mysterio didn't come out thereafter.
56:58.357 --> 56:59.238
[SPEAKER_03]: He'd be John scene.
56:59.258 --> 57:07.870
[SPEAKER_03]: If I that I see title would a whole new swag would a whole new walk to him acting like he was the man and look like the man and carried himself like the man.
57:08.423 --> 57:12.447
[SPEAKER_03]: So, Gunther's gonna get that scene and went out on a shield.
57:13.347 --> 57:22.295
[SPEAKER_03]: And again, the moment is still gonna be scene a walking out, leaving them, the shoe carnival sketches in the ring.
57:23.056 --> 57:28.801
[SPEAKER_03]: And Stan and, you know, given the salute and telling everyone it was a pleasure to serve all of you.
57:29.042 --> 57:38.430
[SPEAKER_03]: That is going to be the moment that we remember when we look back and when WWE does what they do best, which is chop up video footage and make it whatever they wanted to be,
57:38.410 --> 57:39.611
[SPEAKER_03]: Great at doing that.
57:40.352 --> 57:41.894
[SPEAKER_03]: That's going to be the moment we remember.
57:41.954 --> 57:47.161
[SPEAKER_03]: It's not going to be about how seen a loss and you know how upset the crowd was and all that.
57:47.221 --> 57:51.927
[SPEAKER_03]: It's going to be seen a given that last salute and him walking out on his terms.
57:54.310 --> 57:54.850
[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.
57:55.211 --> 58:04.182
[SPEAKER_01]: Now you tried it with shoe carnival
58:06.777 --> 58:17.591
[SPEAKER_01]: Is that the off sale, just half of the holidays black Friday special I would buy one get one 50% off.
58:17.611 --> 58:18.694
[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.
58:20.108 --> 58:21.852
[SPEAKER_03]: as someone who used to work at shoe carnival.
58:21.912 --> 58:23.175
[SPEAKER_03]: I've seen them sketches before.
58:23.475 --> 58:23.796
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
58:24.097 --> 58:25.881
[SPEAKER_03]: That was my first job at as shoe carnival.
58:26.061 --> 58:27.043
[SPEAKER_03]: I've seen them sketches.
58:27.484 --> 58:28.687
[SPEAKER_03]: He's had them for a while.
58:28.707 --> 58:31.172
[SPEAKER_03]: I know that man has some pumps he could have threw in the ring.
58:31.192 --> 58:33.176
[SPEAKER_03]: Why didn't he leave some pumps in the ring?
58:33.277 --> 58:34.399
[SPEAKER_03]: Now that I think it about it.
58:34.840 --> 58:36.323
[SPEAKER_03]: Anybody going pick up them sketches?
58:36.824 --> 58:37.586
[SPEAKER_03]: But then pumps.
58:38.127 --> 58:39.450
[SPEAKER_03]: We'd have been a hype for them pumps.
58:41.135 --> 59:03.058
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, still trying it nonetheless of all the places to shout out you said shoe carnival got the shoes they do they do and they provided the Sketchers and they was like by one get 1.5% off and they'll be delivered to your house or before Christmas if you order before the end of this week There's basically what you said and you ain't right for that
59:03.038 --> 59:09.465
[SPEAKER_01]: But I must say, like, yeah, it was definitely telling the man said, let me leave my shoes in the ring, let me take off my wrist pants.
59:09.825 --> 59:11.347
[SPEAKER_01]: Some of us, it was going to take off his shorts.
59:11.587 --> 59:12.908
[SPEAKER_01]: No, they've been hollering appropriate.
59:13.289 --> 59:16.132
[SPEAKER_01]: So he's going to, you know, who was that?
59:16.552 --> 59:17.914
[SPEAKER_01]: Who was that one man?
59:18.214 --> 59:19.115
[SPEAKER_01]: It was a man, too.
59:19.295 --> 59:19.716
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
59:20.096 --> 59:22.098
[SPEAKER_01]: Leave your shorts like, sir.
59:22.438 --> 59:25.662
[SPEAKER_01]: No, I want to see that man's junk out there like that.
59:26.763 --> 59:31.628
[SPEAKER_01]: Take off the shorts.
59:33.295 --> 59:34.038
[SPEAKER_02]: That's enough.
59:35.343 --> 59:43.033
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, if they want to speak, if you want to take them off, take them off a two capin and back on in the tights to make him the prototype.
59:43.053 --> 59:44.318
[SPEAKER_01]: Go ahead and do that.
59:45.209 --> 59:49.756
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that was not expected, but it was one guy.
59:50.116 --> 59:51.478
[SPEAKER_02]: And he was really loud.
59:51.779 --> 59:53.141
[SPEAKER_02]: Take off the shorts.
59:53.461 --> 59:53.842
[SPEAKER_02]: What?
59:54.543 --> 59:55.585
[SPEAKER_02]: Leave it alone.
59:57.668 --> 59:58.609
[SPEAKER_01]: A moment for sure.
59:58.649 --> 01:00:02.034
[SPEAKER_01]: Indeed, it was a polarizing moment when seen a lost.
01:00:02.315 --> 01:00:03.056
[SPEAKER_01]: I am fine.
01:00:03.096 --> 01:00:04.398
[SPEAKER_01]: There's or not.
01:00:04.558 --> 01:00:06.261
[SPEAKER_01]: I get your anger and frustration.
01:00:06.381 --> 01:00:06.841
[SPEAKER_01]: I do.
01:00:06.882 --> 01:00:09.225
[SPEAKER_01]: And Chipolage felt it.
01:00:09.205 --> 01:00:18.567
[SPEAKER_01]: both ways when you try to get another moment in a spotlight that backfired, try to have another moment doing the presser post show, did not work either.
01:00:18.707 --> 01:00:27.307
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's going to be interesting times, Paul Ivek is still the creative director of WWE television, running Monday night raw, smack down.
01:00:27.748 --> 01:00:27.788
[SPEAKER_01]: So
01:00:27.768 --> 01:00:45.864
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll see if those reactions carry over to the Mondays and the Fridays of it all or is this a one at apparition we shall see, but this was seen as choice and he has to live up to it and he could have got back on the mic to say, which bull and four, but he let the fans have their final state.
01:00:45.884 --> 01:00:56.593
[SPEAKER_01]: So ironic to me that after 20 plus years of pushback, ran core, the fans want to see it to win his last match and win it by being extra in the best possible way.
01:00:57.653 --> 01:01:02.097
[SPEAKER_03]: No, let me ask you this, because I talked about the important things the follow up with Gunther.
01:01:02.397 --> 01:01:14.728
[SPEAKER_03]: So, do they do the Rick Flair route when Shawn Michaels retired Rick Flair and Batista went after him because he did that and felt some type of way.
01:01:15.168 --> 01:01:27.559
[SPEAKER_03]: Do they have somebody who's close to Cena, go after a Gunther, like a shame, it's just somebody like that, like, you know what, I don't appreciate you tapping him out and do that.
01:01:27.539 --> 01:01:33.782
[SPEAKER_03]: Because CM Punk's tied up, he's got the vision and bra on the deal with what do you do with Gunther next.
01:01:33.862 --> 01:01:39.743
[SPEAKER_03]: You take them off TV for a while, what would you do, Kila with Gunther next?
01:01:40.634 --> 01:01:46.100
[SPEAKER_01]: I would have him just basically lord over Monday and that raw and say, I beat two ledges in six months.
01:01:46.721 --> 01:01:47.923
[SPEAKER_01]: Who's next on my list?
01:01:47.983 --> 01:01:50.606
[SPEAKER_01]: If you were retiring, I would retire you.
01:01:51.066 --> 01:01:54.610
[SPEAKER_01]: I went into myself and every tournament there is to retire you.
01:01:55.011 --> 01:01:56.212
[SPEAKER_01]: I am here to break hearts.
01:01:56.713 --> 01:01:58.075
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not here to make you happy.
01:01:58.115 --> 01:02:01.599
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm here to ruin this idea of what you thought was going to be.
01:02:01.739 --> 01:02:02.900
[SPEAKER_01]: Johnson is last match.
01:02:03.100 --> 01:02:05.063
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, you get, you got to get the happy ending.
01:02:05.143 --> 01:02:06.304
[SPEAKER_01]: No, be not going to get it for me.
01:02:06.545 --> 01:02:07.806
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to be this ass.
01:02:07.786 --> 01:02:10.170
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm going to win decisively.
01:02:10.350 --> 01:02:13.635
[SPEAKER_01]: I made the man pass out and he needed this, honestly.
01:02:13.675 --> 01:02:16.679
[SPEAKER_01]: So we'll see where it takes some heading into this year.
01:02:16.699 --> 01:02:20.164
[SPEAKER_01]: And Sina, this was his decision to make.
01:02:20.184 --> 01:02:28.537
[SPEAKER_01]: And one day, when they re-run the footage for a WWE unreal season finale, we're going to get some stories of it.
01:02:28.577 --> 01:02:32.302
[SPEAKER_01]: And Paula Vec is going to say, all the part of the story.
01:02:33.544 --> 01:02:36.949
[SPEAKER_01]: We want to journey is what we do.
01:02:39.005 --> 01:02:39.385
[SPEAKER_03]: epic.
01:02:40.447 --> 01:02:49.498
[SPEAKER_03]: I do want to say I thought Michael Cole had a fire line at the end when he said pro wrestling has destroyed sports entertainment.
01:02:50.138 --> 01:02:51.139
[SPEAKER_03]: I thought that was pretty dope.
01:02:51.240 --> 01:03:06.278
[SPEAKER_03]: I thought that was a pretty nice way of framing it because John Cena is definitely the epitome of sports entertainment top of the line and Gunther right now is the epitome of what pro wrestling is arguably one of the best pro wrestlers in WWE.
01:03:06.298 --> 01:03:08.320
[SPEAKER_03]: So I thought that was a great line by my
01:03:11.202 --> 01:03:15.334
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, and Michael Cole, remarkably captures emotions and check.
01:03:15.795 --> 01:03:16.717
[SPEAKER_01]: He did not break.
01:03:17.279 --> 01:03:18.061
[SPEAKER_01]: He was pissed too.
01:03:18.342 --> 01:03:19.204
[SPEAKER_01]: He was pissed too.
01:03:19.265 --> 01:03:19.786
[SPEAKER_01]: He was mad.
01:03:19.806 --> 01:03:20.709
[SPEAKER_01]: He was mad like, what?
01:03:21.391 --> 01:03:26.224
[SPEAKER_01]: We, we, we, we were so accustomed, but he had to be a professional maintained a core.
01:03:26.204 --> 01:03:26.725
[SPEAKER_01]: for sure.
01:03:26.765 --> 01:03:30.333
[SPEAKER_01]: So he had his moment most definitely to himself.
01:03:30.453 --> 01:03:33.479
[SPEAKER_01]: But as a pro, he didn't let a show on commentary.
01:03:33.840 --> 01:03:42.238
[SPEAKER_01]: He was, you know, even Steven, he was straight lays didn't do too much but backstage he probably threw a fit and byfully so.
01:03:42.218 --> 01:03:45.543
[SPEAKER_01]: So after see the losses last match, the fans are shocked.
01:03:45.983 --> 01:03:47.746
[SPEAKER_01]: They're booing, but they love Jocina.
01:03:47.766 --> 01:03:52.212
[SPEAKER_01]: So they get up and react to him and then the roster empties out the locker rooms.
01:03:52.232 --> 01:03:53.795
[SPEAKER_01]: And we have them all come at rings side.
01:03:54.235 --> 01:03:57.880
[SPEAKER_01]: CM Punk and Cody Rose present their title, Sajocina.
01:03:57.901 --> 01:03:59.963
[SPEAKER_01]: He is the last real champion.
01:04:00.384 --> 01:04:03.689
[SPEAKER_01]: If Paula Vek wasn't there, this would have gotten over.
01:04:03.729 --> 01:04:07.034
[SPEAKER_01]: The moment Paul showed up, it was all on him.
01:04:07.074 --> 01:04:11.500
[SPEAKER_01]: They audibly chained to you,
01:04:11.952 --> 01:04:12.773
[SPEAKER_01]: This is at me.
01:04:12.853 --> 01:04:14.154
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you don't know when to the ring.
01:04:14.715 --> 01:04:17.537
[SPEAKER_01]: You're the only one of the apron wanting a hug from John Cena.
01:04:17.937 --> 01:04:19.159
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they're calling you out.
01:04:19.199 --> 01:04:22.321
[SPEAKER_01]: Can you hear it and then it happened again during the post show?
01:04:22.341 --> 01:04:25.304
[SPEAKER_01]: And you heard AEW chance a little bit.
01:04:25.324 --> 01:04:32.130
[SPEAKER_01]: You heard things that will make you think about what can I do to improve my team's standing?
01:04:32.210 --> 01:04:32.611
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
01:04:32.851 --> 01:04:33.251
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll see.
01:04:35.293 --> 01:04:37.896
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, we'll see if those AEW chance are real.
01:04:38.556 --> 01:04:40.558
[SPEAKER_03]: We'll see if they tune in the collision this week.
01:04:41.180 --> 01:04:42.863
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, dynamite as well.
01:04:43.003 --> 01:04:50.477
[SPEAKER_01]: And ultimately, all of this is going to lead to what are you're going to do in terms of these events.
01:04:51.119 --> 01:04:53.283
[SPEAKER_01]: We have shows heading into WrestleMania.
01:04:53.744 --> 01:04:55.848
[SPEAKER_01]: We have elimination chamber in Chicago.
01:04:55.968 --> 01:04:57.952
[SPEAKER_01]: I know we're not traveling the society for the world.
01:04:58.052 --> 01:04:58.733
[SPEAKER_01]: You're vulnerable.
01:04:58.713 --> 01:05:00.935
[SPEAKER_01]: that is that a travel destination show.
01:05:00.955 --> 01:05:04.079
[SPEAKER_01]: So what are y'all going to do heading into WrestleMania?
01:05:04.179 --> 01:05:06.942
[SPEAKER_01]: Are you so mad that you won't buy a set ticket?
01:05:06.962 --> 01:05:09.665
[SPEAKER_01]: It's because I said what's going to be the breaking point for you?
01:05:10.145 --> 01:05:10.786
[SPEAKER_01]: Is it tonight?
01:05:10.806 --> 01:05:11.747
[SPEAKER_01]: I honestly don't know.
01:05:12.027 --> 01:05:13.128
[SPEAKER_01]: I hear this comparison.
01:05:13.269 --> 01:05:14.410
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, this is like 2019.
01:05:14.970 --> 01:05:16.011
[SPEAKER_01]: Have you lived through 2019?
01:05:16.272 --> 01:05:17.353
[SPEAKER_01]: The same 2019.
01:05:18.254 --> 01:05:21.377
[SPEAKER_01]: So the question becomes what is your tolerance level?
01:05:21.677 --> 01:05:22.398
[SPEAKER_01]: Have you reached it?
01:05:22.438 --> 01:05:26.863
[SPEAKER_01]: Because the only way I'm going to
01:05:26.843 --> 01:05:37.410
[SPEAKER_01]: And six months look at the ticket sales for these live events for WWE from the regular television shows to the PLEs will impact.
01:05:38.555 --> 01:05:40.277
[SPEAKER_01]: people buying tickets.
01:05:40.798 --> 01:05:45.364
[SPEAKER_01]: If it does, then we can look back on this and I'd ask the answer things changed.
01:05:45.784 --> 01:05:57.880
[SPEAKER_01]: If you are still going to WrestleMania, if you're going to set off the United Center in Chicago, if you're going to set off these events all over the country heading into the new year, then nothing really has changed.
01:05:58.280 --> 01:06:03.567
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just a moment in time and you move on, hopefully.
01:06:05.420 --> 01:06:22.143
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean, I mean, I, I mean, I, the other W to be going through a little bit of a, a low, but this is usually the time of year where that low happens, anyway, right before January, I think they got a few good things cooking long as Triple H and A, I don't mess it up.
01:06:22.763 --> 01:06:31.275
[SPEAKER_03]: I think they got a few good things cooking like this whole Seth Rollins and his ninjas, I think that's a good little story line that they got going on.
01:06:31.255 --> 01:06:36.461
[SPEAKER_03]: And then, you know, whatever they got going with Braun Breaker, I think they definitely have plans for him.
01:06:36.521 --> 01:06:39.165
[SPEAKER_03]: And again, the follow-up with Gunther.
01:06:39.385 --> 01:06:43.810
[SPEAKER_03]: Me personally, I'd have shame is coming, be like, yo, I don't like the way you did that.
01:06:43.830 --> 01:06:47.815
[SPEAKER_03]: And so, you know, have Gunther come out, talk smack, and then have shame is like yo, that's enough.
01:06:48.036 --> 01:06:50.799
[SPEAKER_03]: You did what you did, because you know, you're going to get a bang right at that.
01:06:50.839 --> 01:06:51.660
[SPEAKER_03]: So,
01:06:51.640 --> 01:07:04.537
[SPEAKER_03]: The follow-up is going to be key and you're right in about six months after WrestleMania can't count anything WrestleMania after that that's when we're going to see what really happens leading into summer slam.
01:07:08.382 --> 01:07:13.429
[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely so we shall see how this is all going to go and
01:07:14.236 --> 01:07:14.858
[SPEAKER_01]: He has a point.
01:07:15.520 --> 01:07:18.729
[SPEAKER_01]: What do you expect that we to be to put more effect on the show?
01:07:19.551 --> 01:07:21.236
[SPEAKER_01]: Girls, you crazy to be making millions.
01:07:21.276 --> 01:07:21.738
[SPEAKER_01]: They are.
01:07:21.798 --> 01:07:23.403
[SPEAKER_01]: They are making millions of dollars.
01:07:23.884 --> 01:07:24.686
[SPEAKER_01]: That is the question.
01:07:25.328 --> 01:07:27.013
[SPEAKER_01]: The question is, will it continue?
01:07:27.736 --> 01:07:28.537
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the question.
01:07:28.577 --> 01:07:37.189
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it will, but if you are a fan tonight, that was upset at what happened, what are you going to do?
01:07:37.830 --> 01:07:45.320
[SPEAKER_01]: Because you can boost, you can cluster, pull it out all you want to, or you're going to cheer him when he next comes out for these shows when they go back to DC.
01:07:45.600 --> 01:07:48.324
[SPEAKER_01]: Are you going to buy tickets for another show in DC?
01:07:48.644 --> 01:07:50.827
[SPEAKER_01]: Are you going to buy tickets for the next PLE?
01:07:51.267 --> 01:07:53.170
[SPEAKER_01]: These are questions that are valid.
01:07:53.150 --> 01:07:54.192
[SPEAKER_01]: There is no refund.
01:07:54.292 --> 01:07:54.893
[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously not.
01:07:54.913 --> 01:07:58.318
[SPEAKER_01]: You're not going to get your money back, but are you going to spend money again for the next show?
01:07:58.759 --> 01:08:01.824
[SPEAKER_01]: Because if you are, then this is a wash, essentially.
01:08:02.224 --> 01:08:03.146
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what I'm saying.
01:08:03.627 --> 01:08:08.194
[SPEAKER_01]: So if you are angry, you're not going to spend money on something that angers you.
01:08:09.216 --> 01:08:12.220
[SPEAKER_01]: If you're going to get over this, then you're going to get over it in a day.
01:08:12.661 --> 01:08:13.863
[SPEAKER_01]: That's where I'm at on that.
01:08:16.307 --> 01:08:16.407
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:08:17.332 --> 01:08:29.584
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and like I said, it'll be, I mean, this is this is the essentially the same reaction we got when Brock beat taker at WrestleMania everybody was up in arms and it was oh my God, I can't believe you did that.
01:08:29.664 --> 01:08:31.085
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not watching anymore.
01:08:32.026 --> 01:08:36.370
[SPEAKER_03]: And we moved on and Brock ended up regardless of how we feel about it.
01:08:36.410 --> 01:08:41.495
[SPEAKER_03]: Brock had a very dominant run that was planned out after that until Roman came and took him out.
01:08:41.515 --> 01:08:44.858
[SPEAKER_03]: So long as they do that with Gunther, this will all be worth it.
01:08:45.395 --> 01:08:50.989
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, when Brock beat taker, they cheered him when they we need to demolish scene at summer slam 2014.
01:08:51.130 --> 01:08:52.012
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
01:08:52.413 --> 01:09:00.413
[SPEAKER_01]: When they wanted him to beat WrestleMania when they wanted when he win the fans wanted him to beat Roman at WrestleMania 31.
01:09:02.077 --> 01:09:02.779
[SPEAKER_01]: What happened?
01:09:03.738 --> 01:09:10.106
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, Seth won, but the response was they won at Brock to win, that's what it was.
01:09:10.787 --> 01:09:23.302
[SPEAKER_03]: So, and it elevated Seth because that in Seth got a huge boost because of what Brock had just done and because of like you said, they won at Brock to be Roman and then Seth got it because he ended up beating them both.
01:09:23.402 --> 01:09:27.227
[SPEAKER_03]: So, like you said, everything's going to be fine.
01:09:27.267 --> 01:09:29.610
[SPEAKER_03]: It's all going to be a wash and we move on.
01:09:29.877 --> 01:09:37.969
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and if it's not, we'll talk about it in the six months, like I, my metric is put your money where your mouth is.
01:09:38.549 --> 01:09:43.657
[SPEAKER_01]: If you don't like something, if this is your wall, don't buy anything else.
01:09:44.518 --> 01:09:47.422
[SPEAKER_01]: People, as you said, people are going to watch no matter what.
01:09:47.823 --> 01:09:49.385
[SPEAKER_01]: So we're going to do what they're going to do.
01:09:49.425 --> 01:09:50.566
[SPEAKER_01]: This is just a moment in time.
01:09:50.927 --> 01:09:55.193
[SPEAKER_01]: What I'm saying is if you're that pissed off about what happened.
01:09:55.173 --> 01:09:56.695
[SPEAKER_01]: put your money where your mouth is.
01:09:57.436 --> 01:09:58.698
[SPEAKER_01]: You want to cut such a billage?
01:09:59.099 --> 01:10:01.042
[SPEAKER_01]: Don't pay $30 for the where your rumble.
01:10:02.003 --> 01:10:03.987
[SPEAKER_01]: Don't watch it in, at the end of January.
01:10:04.027 --> 01:10:06.430
[SPEAKER_01]: Don't watch elimination chamber.
01:10:06.490 --> 01:10:08.974
[SPEAKER_01]: Don't watch the road to WrestleMania.
01:10:09.054 --> 01:10:12.760
[SPEAKER_01]: Don't go back to Vegas if this is your red line.
01:10:13.060 --> 01:10:26.172
[SPEAKER_01]: And we'll see if something changes in six months in terms of the metrics, we could look back on this side and say, yeah, this was, this was the night things turn until that day comes tonight was a moment in time.
01:10:26.673 --> 01:10:28.174
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, it's the same who knows.
01:10:30.436 --> 01:10:31.597
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, no, with that.
01:10:32.278 --> 01:10:33.439
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, all right.
01:10:33.459 --> 01:10:35.681
[SPEAKER_01]: He's so we have the ceremony, post shall happen.
01:10:35.741 --> 01:10:38.583
[SPEAKER_01]: Triple H got boot got cast out again.
01:10:38.603 --> 01:10:41.346
[SPEAKER_01]: He said, I thought, I was going to be louder.
01:10:42.001 --> 01:10:46.828
[SPEAKER_01]: and then they turned the mic down essentially to get through the interview.
01:10:47.269 --> 01:10:50.954
[SPEAKER_01]: So he was peaved at it, but we'll see what Monday brings.
01:10:51.095 --> 01:10:53.338
[SPEAKER_01]: Paul Vick's got to go on the socials and hype up.
01:10:53.779 --> 01:10:56.763
[SPEAKER_01]: It being epic.
01:10:56.783 --> 01:11:01.650
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, so yeah.
01:11:01.670 --> 01:11:06.237
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but I bet it'd be careful prison trip
01:11:07.904 --> 01:11:11.088
[SPEAKER_03]: We already hate us anyway, so like, what's he gonna deal?
01:11:11.329 --> 01:11:11.950
[SPEAKER_03]: That's true.
01:11:12.430 --> 01:11:13.031
[SPEAKER_03]: That's true.
01:11:14.053 --> 01:11:14.834
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
01:11:14.874 --> 01:11:15.495
[SPEAKER_03]: You say that.
01:11:15.535 --> 01:11:18.018
[SPEAKER_03]: They might miss going to WWE championships.
01:11:18.078 --> 01:11:20.882
[SPEAKER_01]: Sir, if that happens, and I will turn in my fan card.
01:11:20.942 --> 01:11:21.443
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll be done.
01:11:21.483 --> 01:11:22.485
[SPEAKER_01]: Seriously.
01:11:25.969 --> 01:11:26.751
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the ultimate.
01:11:26.811 --> 01:11:29.895
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, all of us, essentially, if that happens.
01:11:30.854 --> 01:11:35.218
[SPEAKER_03]: even me, I would be like, all right, let's take it easy.
01:11:35.458 --> 01:11:38.541
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, there's a speech championship right there if we gotta give him something.
01:11:39.302 --> 01:11:41.244
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, actually, there's not is there.
01:11:42.025 --> 01:11:46.129
[SPEAKER_01]: No, well, there is a speech, listen, the dude won the speech championship and now he's off television.
01:11:47.750 --> 01:11:48.611
[SPEAKER_01]: How does that happen?
01:11:50.313 --> 01:11:51.554
[SPEAKER_01]: Jasper Troy, man.
01:11:52.475 --> 01:12:00.743
[SPEAKER_01]: One the speech championship and now he's off television and the
01:12:02.225 --> 01:12:09.197
[SPEAKER_03]: They wait in the day, wait in the redabio and triple A on Fox Fox Fox Fox, that's the one y'all.
01:12:09.257 --> 01:12:10.199
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, absolutely.
01:12:10.539 --> 01:12:14.847
[SPEAKER_01]: The new Fox bag because it's a relationship never ends one way or another.
01:12:14.887 --> 01:12:18.793
[SPEAKER_01]: But that is a wrap for Josh in his retirement.
01:12:19.434 --> 01:12:19.895
[SPEAKER_01]: It's over.
01:12:19.955 --> 01:12:20.977
[SPEAKER_01]: He's done.
01:12:21.017 --> 01:12:22.680
[SPEAKER_01]: Fennito.
01:12:22.660 --> 01:12:25.905
[SPEAKER_01]: It's been a ride, it's been an experience of what a way to end it on his terms.
01:12:26.406 --> 01:12:27.808
[SPEAKER_01]: And I respect the man for that.
01:12:28.510 --> 01:12:30.873
[SPEAKER_01]: He went out and assort, and I'm not mad.
01:12:30.914 --> 01:12:38.225
[SPEAKER_01]: Some people are, but hey, we'll see what happens tomorrow and the next day and the next day.
01:12:38.786 --> 01:12:41.631
[SPEAKER_01]: But Scott, your final thoughts on this event.
01:12:43.130 --> 01:12:44.413
[SPEAKER_03]: I thought it was a really good show.
01:12:45.175 --> 01:12:54.255
[SPEAKER_03]: The only finish I thought was really bad was the first one just because I think either one of them would have been fine, like Cody would have been fine taking a law especially of Drew and her fears.
01:12:54.295 --> 01:12:58.725
[SPEAKER_03]: So that was the only finish that I really just didn't like.
01:12:58.705 --> 01:13:02.875
[SPEAKER_03]: Overall, I think the show accomplished exactly what John himself said he wanted to do.
01:13:02.935 --> 01:13:05.421
[SPEAKER_03]: And that's showcase in XT talent.
01:13:05.661 --> 01:13:06.343
[SPEAKER_03]: Ober look great.
01:13:06.844 --> 01:13:07.706
[SPEAKER_03]: Soul look great.
01:13:08.147 --> 01:13:09.631
[SPEAKER_03]: Leon and Javan look great.
01:13:10.332 --> 01:13:12.136
[SPEAKER_03]: Not much more you can ask for.
01:13:12.237 --> 01:13:14.422
[SPEAKER_03]: And seeing it put over the next the next guy.
01:13:14.502 --> 01:13:16.647
[SPEAKER_03]: So I thought it was a really good show.
01:13:16.627 --> 01:13:29.965
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought so as well, despite the first match booking of it all, but otherwise, really solid show from WWE despite how people felt about the ending and we'll see how that carries overheading into the end of this year and to the next.
01:13:30.486 --> 01:13:34.852
[SPEAKER_01]: And so that's a wrap on all things, WWE, VIA WWE post game live.
01:13:35.253 --> 01:13:38.277
[SPEAKER_01]: I want to thank my co-host, my co-happed, my co- captain.
01:13:38.677 --> 01:13:41.041
[SPEAKER_01]: So I've just got young for joining me to recap.
01:13:41.061 --> 01:13:45.587
[SPEAKER_01]: The highs and lows and
01:13:46.360 --> 01:13:56.934
[SPEAKER_03]: They've had Michaela and as always, it's a pleasure to chop it up and talk all things WWE, looking forward to the rap on Tuesday to see what they got in store for some Monday.
01:13:57.174 --> 01:13:58.476
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm looking forward to the raw.
01:13:58.676 --> 01:14:05.765
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm curious to see what the follow-up is with Gunther and if they even acknowledge and then see how they move on.
01:14:06.065 --> 01:14:12.013
[SPEAKER_03]: I think there will be extra eyeballs on Monday and I raw so I they should try to put on a good show.
01:14:11.993 --> 01:14:12.594
[SPEAKER_01]: agree.
01:14:12.734 --> 01:14:16.097
[SPEAKER_01]: Last live show of the year I believe because holidays are coming up.
01:14:16.117 --> 01:14:22.862
[SPEAKER_01]: So they got to make a count double tapings are incoming for raw and smack down to get us to rule the end of the year.
01:14:22.902 --> 01:14:27.787
[SPEAKER_01]: They are going to space these things out, but it's going to be like we're doing one show for this week, one show for next week.
01:14:28.147 --> 01:14:29.268
[SPEAKER_01]: You should do it the end of the year.
01:14:29.668 --> 01:14:41.258
[SPEAKER_01]: First Raws of 2025 will be at the Barclay Center in Brooklyn, New York and smack down those back of three hours,
01:14:41.238 --> 01:14:54.776
[SPEAKER_01]: on Tuesday to recap the fallout on Monday night raw talk all things in XT and then get you ready for the end of the year as we prep for yes, the fourth annual wrap awards.
01:14:54.936 --> 01:14:56.260
[SPEAKER_01]: It is coming.
01:14:56.240 --> 01:14:57.341
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll select a date.
01:14:57.441 --> 01:14:58.603
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll talk about it later.
01:14:59.063 --> 01:15:03.048
[SPEAKER_01]: But until then, enjoy the rest of your night.
01:15:03.568 --> 01:15:10.837
[SPEAKER_01]: And the weekend as we reconvene on Tuesday at 11ish via the Fiky Media Network YouTube channel to recap all things.
01:15:11.838 --> 01:15:12.439
[SPEAKER_01]: WWE.
01:15:12.879 --> 01:15:17.805
[SPEAKER_01]: So for myself and Facial Discard Young, that is a wrap for WWE Post Game Live.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Take care and bye-bye.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hello everyone, are you okay?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Are you marked safe from Johnson's last match in DC?
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[SPEAKER_01]: For Saturday night's main event, are you okay?
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's been what, approximately 90 minutes since seen as last match, are you fine?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you need a place to have a moment to yourself to compose yourself to mourn the end of a legendary career?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, we're here to help.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Welcome to a very special edition of WWE Post Game Live Live on the Fiky Media Network YouTube channel, a special Saturday night special just for you to get you through your Saturday night into your Sunday morning.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And to the beginning of a brand new week, as we get into the heart of the holiday season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we're going to try to bring some holiday cheer
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[SPEAKER_01]: to a very sad night for C-Nation.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I am here helping you through it all as your de facto therapist.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm Keela Cash, and Bob Masett is always, is my co-captain.
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[SPEAKER_01]: My right hand, my ride-a-die, these sometimes advocate for the rapidly improved Ms. Jada Parker from NXT.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I bring to you on WWE post-game live.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's not salty.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He is Perky Scott Young.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hello, Perky.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Welcome to the Mad House that is John Cena's last match in WWE.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Thank you, Keela.
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[SPEAKER_03]: As always, it's a pleasure to chop it up and talk all things WWE.
01:45.354 --> 01:49.401
[SPEAKER_03]: Very excited about the conversation we're going to have.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Really enjoyed the show.
01:51.628 --> 01:58.677
[SPEAKER_03]: The only finish I hate was the very first match, but hey, what do I know, you know, the only a dollar.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So what do I know?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I watched it for free because I'm a platinum member of Exclinity, so I paid $0 for this event, very thankful for that, but I enjoyed myself too mostly the first match irritated me because of the finish, but I thought the main event which might go down as one of the most polarizing main events in WWE history was a very good one.
02:25.443 --> 02:44.388
[SPEAKER_01]: I think there is a debate about why it happened and if it should have happened and I completely understand the argument for and against John Cena losing his last match and I'm sure it's going to be an amazing episode of WWE Unreal.
02:44.729 --> 02:54.522
[SPEAKER_01]: The season finale for season two whenever it drops a Netflix sometime next year and we're going to get several versions of the story
02:54.502 --> 03:04.512
[SPEAKER_01]: that I personally did not have a problem with the finished because I looked at the expression on John Cena's face as he tapped out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That was a man that was satisfied and content.
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[SPEAKER_01]: For the last few months he has talked about the future.
03:12.079 --> 03:13.280
[SPEAKER_01]: The future is now.
03:13.721 --> 03:20.087
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm trying to leave this place in a better place than where I found it 20 plus years ago.
03:20.067 --> 03:29.124
[SPEAKER_01]: and I understand the need for people who love seen a down to have that happy closure, but he was going to give you that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He was going to be selfless at the end, and I completely understand the anger if you wanted him to win.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I'm looking at his expression on his face in that moment.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He knew.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm done.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I am content and I'm giving the right person the W in this moment.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And for all the years of SuperSena, when you wanted him to lose multiple times to get other people over in this moment, he decided to give it to someone who will be the man to say, I made John Cena give up.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, this this finish will be talked about the way we talked about undertaker and Brock like it's going to it's going to be that like people still don't think that Brock should end the district and there's an argument to be made for that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Listen.
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[SPEAKER_03]: the there was no wrong answer and that I think that's my biggest thing like if seen a would have won the place would have exploded probably talking about car potentially car to the year but seen a lost and now we we legit have a modern day legend killer we have about we have a good amount of wrestlers who are going to be retiring in the next few years AJ's already said he out
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[SPEAKER_03]: Randy didn't got too much long and in the list we'll go on and we have a guy who we can send out there every time and send them boys home and like you said, the face that scene ahead, you could tell it it looked like he satisfied he was ready.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We all know that this was probably John's call and I think that's the most important thing that we need to take away from this is if it was John's call and we're all pretty sure it was Then we need to respect that man's decision if anybody deserves the decision to choose whether they win or lose
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[SPEAKER_03]: is John Cena.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And the match in itself was a really good match.
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[SPEAKER_03]: A lot of emotion.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We got super Cena.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, God dang he kicked out a little he everything.
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[SPEAKER_03]: 20 finishes and he kicked out of eight of them.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, what are we upset about?
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[SPEAKER_03]: What are we upset about?
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I get it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The emotion, trust me, my kid was devastated.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He was crying on the couch.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I kept hearing these sniffles as I'm watching the show.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I couldn't figure out where they was coming from.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I see him under the blanket on the couch messed up.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Wouldn't open some ad in calendars.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They ate some chocolate.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Got some Pokemon cards.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And now he's ready to see Gunther get beat up.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, this is what we want.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I get it, you know,
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[SPEAKER_03]: We move on.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, that's it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We move on.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's not the end of the world.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It doesn't for me.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It doesn't take away from the show.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It doesn't take away from the match.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The match could have been elevated, but it doesn't make the match less than what it was.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It was still a really good match and a really good cap to John Cena's career.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I want to touch on this comment by internet warfare mentioning that was a look of a man who was totally ready to retire.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was, it was a man that was content to lose on the way off the door and that has been tradition for a lot of people over the years.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, Paula Vek, as the head of creative, could have overrule John Cena and said no, actually, what we're going to do is give you a heroes exit by you winning your final match and we're going to do the pomp and circumstance on the way out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And we're going to leave the people happy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He listened to John and said, well, if you want to lose, you're going to lose.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And Paul's mistake was going out there because here's the thing, here's the thing about Paul of Beck.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm going to stand on this until the end of time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He secretly hates all of us.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you go back to this year's WrestleMania's pressures and the interviews, he despises us because we push back on his booking.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he basically flipped us to bird via every interview he did.
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[SPEAKER_01]: to his very core and he is about the applause.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So even if he says, F us all day long, he will put himself out there to be cheered, to be admired, to be acknowledged, to be appreciated.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So when that finish happened, he thought these fans would appreciate me, acknowledge my greatness and my genius.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And when they said no, F you, he was a bit,
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[SPEAKER_01]: shook by that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The post show presser as well, the fans said the same thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now I will say if you watched a pre-show, I peeped it to.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So he was sitting up there and the fans wanted him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I quote,
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[SPEAKER_01]: sip the water, sip the water, we want the spray, we want the spit, he that's what they expect because you place into that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So when he goes out there for the express purpose of being
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[SPEAKER_01]: then there you are.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The question becomes, where does that energy go from here?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Are you going, are y'all going to keep it up, heading into next year's PLEs?
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[SPEAKER_01]: When it comes out there, is that, hey, going to still be there?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Or are you still going to buy tickets?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Are you still going to attend PLEs?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Are you going to still attend live events?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And these record numbers?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Put your anger where your mouth is in terms of money.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because if you're not gonna stop spending money and buying merch and tickets, that means very little to me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But if this is your breaking point, this is your red line, then do what you must.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I'm glad that some of y'all tonight woke up and gave that man the business.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because he should have guided every Sunday a weekend when he basically told all of us to go F ourselves.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm kind of one the other man.
09:48.377 --> 09:50.479
[SPEAKER_03]: I think he thoroughly enjoys getting food.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like this is as close as he's going to get to get back in the ring and being a wrestler.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, he's one of the greatest.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He, I think he loves being food.
09:59.669 --> 10:03.313
[SPEAKER_02]: I think he let, did you see that sinister smiley head when he hug John Cena?
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[SPEAKER_01]: That was both show.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He let the little myth.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He did.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Now, maybe the post show, you know, what he probably got somebody in the back was like, hey, man, you know, what yet you screwed up and then that might have got to them, but in the moment.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I, I think he loves the boots, like I think that dude is a genuine heel and you said it best in our discord.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You said it best.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Even if he was shook in the post show, that dude is going is going to have a drink, he's going to get on his private jet, he's going to kiss Stephanie and he's going to go home and sleep just fine.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, his AI writes up Monday night.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, you said it best on the discord.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's exactly what's gonna happen and he's gonna forget this night ever happened.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, again, everything's gonna be fine.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Shout out to Fernando in the chat as well.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But everything's gonna be fine.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, now, people calling for events and stuff like that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, let's let's take it easy.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Let's take it easy.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I get it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Edge got the win his last match and and Canada.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Vincent really think that man was leaving.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He think that man was going to the comp.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He thought he was going to come back.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's one of the easy.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He got the win back.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That was that was the, hey, man, you win this.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You come on back.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Triple Lager's like, nah, just in case.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Listen, ask him for Vince back as wild.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Why?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I want to add it to your old scene now, man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Back, what?
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[SPEAKER_01]: To do what?
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[SPEAKER_01]: to do what to do, what to do, what to do, what to do, what to do, what to do, what to do, what to do, what to do, what to do, what to do, what to do, what to do, what to do, what to do, what to do, what to do, what to do, what to do, what to do, what to do, what to do, what to do, what to do, what to do, what to do, what to do, what to do, what to do, what to do, what to do, what to do, what to do, what to do, what to do, what to do, what to do, what to do, what to do, what to do, what to do, what to do, what to do, what to do, what to do, what to do, what to do, what to do, what to do, what to do, what to do, what to do, what to do, what to do, what to do
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[SPEAKER_01]: secret service is on site.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So when I saw the people out there six o'clock properly, I said, we can get a worry about nobody's showing up this sus, you know, there's going to ruin the vibes.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I already told you that Donald was going to be sitting in his limo watching show.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I told you that are the rap that dude was not coming in the building anyway.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He probably already knew the finish like, yeah, I won't be there for that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Y'all ain't going to have no ride and then show me on
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so all things have worried it, we saw Vince via a video package.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I did laugh that that was the most emotion scene I showed, because despite all of Vince's many, many, many, many, many sense he's a Vince stand.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I have my own thoughts on that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm, you know, whatever, whatever you choose, see, you know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Whatever you choose to do in terms of who your friends with good for you because you know one face and Vince has many faces and the face you saw is probably a lovely face he and my cup of tea.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm never going to be like, oh.
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[SPEAKER_01]: please.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, never.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But you do you boo, you do you and you cry over that man and you do what you must.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I did laugh.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That was the most emotiony show because they really watch that video package.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Listen, this lady's people happy with something and Paul of it was getting booed.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I had a great hearty laugh because I was like, finally, y'all mad y'all are mad with him about something and
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[SPEAKER_01]: You shouldn't be mad at him six months ago, because that's when y'all really should have went off.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because he basically took all of us to go to hell during WrestleMania weekend, collectively.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And we cheer that man when he came out there at WrestleMania, got the pops, the applause that made it a whole two-hour Hall of Fame speech, put everybody to sleep and y'all still celebrate this man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm glad we reached our limit tonight.
13:49.442 --> 13:53.608
[SPEAKER_01]: This was the one thing that unified us and said enough.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that was probably the one mistake.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like he didn't have to come out.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I was in his mind he did, but it could have just been punk and Cody, they could have came out, the belts thing they did, and then, you know, they could have went right to the video.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So like I said, it is what it is.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, it's over now where we're gonna dissect it, we're gonna talk about it, but we move on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, we do and internet warfare taps in again, saying the WWE can't wait to bring them back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They just don't want him booking.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, they do have this
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[SPEAKER_01]: interesting prospect of if they settled the lawsuit with Geno Grant with that, open the door for Vince to reappear on WWE television.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Brock is back on TV for now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Depends how the lawsuit goes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a lot at play here, a lot of stake.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And also the people who are in charge, Paul event, Stephanie McMahon, the question becomes, how is that relationship for him to be back on WWE television?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Is he going to be indebted into the WWE Hall of Fame while he's alive?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Honestly, don't know, I just think those dynamics with the family
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[SPEAKER_01]: when it comes to Stephanie and Triple H is so strained, that you might not see him on TV anytime.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So if ever, again, short of his passing and all likelihood, I hate to say that, but I'm thinking about this strife goes deep.
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[SPEAKER_01]: within his own family.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it feels like a family divided because you have shame and even there, just tweeting online, a congrats John Cena.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So sides are being taken here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just don't know how it's going to go, but T. K. L. And how Stephanie and Paul live.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel about this ultimately.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, shame is there.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He was in the crowd.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Ladies and gentlemen, just like they did the other night, he was in the background and wanted him shots.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He was there, but I think what they'll do with Vince is they'll end up inducting the McMahon family.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And that'll be, I think that's going to be how they ease that into it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And then he'll get his own induction.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They'll see how the reaction is when he comes out.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's, that's how I see it happen.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They're not.
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[SPEAKER_03]: that crazy to think that they can just vault him out.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He's that crazy because you saw what he was doing before he got popped.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He's that crazy.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if Nick Khan and Triple H are that crazy to do that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So we'll see.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't think so either.
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[SPEAKER_01]: just a different era and WWE and sponsors are very vocal because remember Slim Jim was like I'm out if this man is still here and they had to get rid of him before the warrior rumble a couple of years ago.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So you have to take that into account as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Even though even if they settle this lawsuit, a sponsor still fill away about Vince and there is a side of that family,
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[SPEAKER_01]: very close that fill a way about him too because he effectively pushed his daughter and son-in-law out of power and when the news leaked three years ago, you wonder who did it?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I still think it was Triple A to Stephanie that leaked the stories to the Wall Street Journal.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's going to come out.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It was all shame, man.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Everything is going to come back to shame.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It was all shame.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm telling you, shame, it's the one pulling all these trees.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We go find out that he's been the mastermind behind this whole thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I look forced that day because it's giving succession, WWE edition for sure.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Regarding all of this, it's just playing out over the last two or three years.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But let's get to the main show, Saturday Night's main event, going down live from the
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[SPEAKER_01]: during the entire special.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was the make a wish segment before the show.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I cried.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I ugly cried.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The stories were very heartwarming and touching.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It got to me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I almost cried again when I saw Kevin Owens in the crowd.
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[SPEAKER_01]: and seen a embraced her mark before the match that got me to because Kevin was just there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know where at the last minute and seen a saw him hugged him up and I was like, that got me to.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But otherwise, I basically kept my emotions in check.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, if seen a talk during the post match, I think it would have gotten me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But he just said, let the video package speak for itself, let the loss speak volumes and let me go in peace.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I, I, during his entrance, I, that's when I, it started to hit me a little bit, started to get a little emotional.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, my, and, you know, right before one of them tears decide to try to peep down my son, the right, I mean, you look, that what you're doing, you crying.
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[SPEAKER_03]: What you got going on over there?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Nassan, I had something in my eye, man, and I'm worried about me.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So, but not, I thought they did a real good job with the presentation.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Really enjoyed every match, we had everyone talking about, you know, what John meant to him and all this stuff.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So, yeah, I think, I think the show,
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[SPEAKER_03]: was really good and they did a really good job of building the anticipation and his insurance was everything, him turning the camera on Stu, Lily and Garcia did a great job with the introduction, especially keeping it together because I know she was emotional too and you could tell and he gave her a little rub on the back.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I thought she did a great job.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, I think the whole presentation of the night was really well done.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, hi Maria welcome in and yes, it was a historic night an end of an era that I think that we all live through From start to finish and I've been watching wrestling for over 25 years and this was probably the longest run.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I've seen someone have in my lifetime
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[SPEAKER_01]: in terms of being a constant from beginning to end with the few gaps in between, but he was a constant.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I will say that during John Cena's time when it went under-appreciated, he basically got the lights on for WWE.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The word that stuck out to be the most was the turn of the century.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was a phrase that Jesse the body ventured said, the turn of the century, the turn of the 21st century, who was a guy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And we was
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[SPEAKER_01]: to ruthless aggression, and you had Austin and the rock transitioning out of WWE, Triple H's reign of terror, but he wasn't that guy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He wasn't the guy, and that guy ultimately became John Cena, and for all of the resentment and pushback from fans that were tired of him at the time, he kept the lights on in WWE.
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[SPEAKER_01]: During a time when things could have collapsed, like the early
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[SPEAKER_01]: Do the highs and lows this guy was steady and consistent through it all and I will respect him for that, especially now.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I don't think that's talked about enough.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You mentioned the Ruthless Aggression Era.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think what's even more impressive is to go from the attitude era, the Ruthless Aggression, and then go to the G era.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, forget the PG era.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They were in the G era, I mean, like, it was a complete home shift.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Everything about it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So for him to be able to do that and then bring the intensity when he needed to be able,
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[SPEAKER_03]: Every John John brought a big match feel, and Michael Cole, you know, talked about JBL calling him big match John, and that really became his moniker, like when whenever John scene is showed up, it became a big match, so it's besides Roman, it's not a lot of guys who bring that type of feel every time they show up on on screen, so it was
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it was great to look back and think about it, but there was a long time when people weren't rocking with them, but I'm glad that he's gotten the appreciation that he deserves now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: For sure, and I'll talk later about the moment when the appreciation really kicked in.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And we'll get to that in just a bit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But let's talk about the show itself.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now I'll literally do a great job with the introduction for seeing this last match.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She did a fantastic job with the National Anthem to kick off the show.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She was just on point all night long, rose to the occasion for this very special moment.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we got the video package of Johnson's career, the goat.
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[SPEAKER_01]: showcasing other goats like Michael Jordan, Serena Williams, tackle woods, Tom Brady, the goats of the goats, Simone Biles, a goats of their respective sports, and how John Cena compares to that goat status.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he is really one of the greatest to ever do it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The resume, the accolades, the accomplishments speaks for itself in every way.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then we cut to our first match.
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[SPEAKER_01]: which was the undisputed WWE Champion Cody Rose versus the NXT Champion Obofimi and I go back to the night before on SmackDown.
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[SPEAKER_01]: NXT is seen on the CW by approximately over half a million people every Tuesday night.
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[SPEAKER_01]: and the fans in Pennsylvania to DC knew who Olba Fimi was.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They recognized Orah immediately off top.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They chance it as name did the audible halt like they was into it from the getting to
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[SPEAKER_01]: main roster style was everything and Oberfemi carried himself like an absolute star.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The match itself was very good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Love the physicality.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Love Ober's dominant Cody's fight from underneath hitting his cutters and then when Ober ran on the outside and delivered it up a cut that busted Cody's ear open.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That was a
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[SPEAKER_01]: Tasting his own blood.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, let me go super cutter on you, hit that clean for a new fall.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then just when this match is peaking, we're an Easter go.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Drew McIntyre comes out and super tight jeans, attacks, coady, automatically for the DQ, and I'm like, really, wow, tight G. They were tight.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They were super tight.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They were very, very moving.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Jiggins, you know, they were super tight.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Cabelli moved, I mean, like, serve.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you want to be more mobile, get you some looser jeans just saying.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Great, so he comes out there, a piece of codey.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Ober's offended like you take it my moment away.
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[SPEAKER_01]: My time is now, your time was then.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All of my business, taking this moment for me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So he shoves Drew and then codey at Ober double team, Drew McIntyre, and they stand tall and they shake hands.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Lovely, code act, harm mark moment.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I hated the finish.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, what a way to write the fence.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, since we don't want Cody or Oberluzing, let's just have Drew McIntyre come out in an unsafe work environment, allegedly, and cost us a very good match.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This finished Bob and me greatly.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, everybody's upset about seeing and tapping, but anybody mad about Drew McIntyre coming out room and in this match, making make sense.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But listen, one thing I will say that
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[SPEAKER_03]: Drew McIntyre is a really big dude because open's not a small man.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like Cody's not a small man either.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But like I definitely was not expecting Drew McIntyre to kind of tower over Oberlin like that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like that was that was a little jarring to me.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I if this leads to Drew McIntyre showing up on the CW and us getting a nice little short program between him and Oberlin.
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[SPEAKER_03]: not opposed to it, especially if maybe you get an appearance from Cody, you know, since he won't show up on Friday, maybe Cody shows up on Tuesday, like, as long as there's follow up, like, I still want to see a finish to that match.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think Oprah presented himself, well, I think it was very telling that you said like the crowd was reacting to him.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They were moving with him.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, Oprah's ready.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Hope was ready.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think he's just holding that title for Javan the comment, take it somewhere down the road.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, strong match and Claudio would have been very proud of that European uppercut that over through on the outside.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Claudia would have like brought a cup of coffee, poured it, and sipped it, and said delicious.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Would it text a John Cena during the show and said, I love that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I love that for me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I love that for the future because the uppercut was clean and gnarly and nasty.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oprah is ready.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He is ready.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like the fans recognize,
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[SPEAKER_01]: greatness when they see it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're already rocking with him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And now you see this possibility of Obo versus Drew McIntyre on NXT, maybe at a PLE.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I would love to see it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then you do what you do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What PLE?
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[SPEAKER_01]: When in XTPO league, we got vengeance day, we got vengeance day, or you could do like regular NXT TV and label it something, name it something and go with that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Or, you know, we have the possibility again of Ober versus Cody, which is inconclusive.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You can go back to that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like this was like a test run of what could be which I love and the chemistry was there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: this guy is undeniable.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You see the vision.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he's a two time in XE champion.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Is he being wasted on an XE television?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Are they delaying his push up to the main roster?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe if they can get through the next four months.
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[SPEAKER_01]: after San and Deliver, they need to call him up or you pull the kale and let him move like on the main roster and NXT.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He could all today, if you want him to do that, but this needs to be an immediate call up by the spring.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The answers clear, the fans know him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They recognize how good he is and I think he is viable for a good push in WWE via the main roster.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and I mean, hopefully, you know, hopefully more people won't want to see him and we'll tune into NXT because NXT still does need the eyeballs.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They still have a station.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They need to keep happy.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I guess I said, I just think he's holding that title until they're ready to have Javan come and take it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: All I know is that
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[SPEAKER_03]: Tony D, but then I'd be cutting up nobody's hat and throwing up like stuff all over open when it no more matches.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That better not be the in-game of this.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm gonna tell you that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let me tell you something.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What I better not see is Tony D versus Obo at San and Deliver.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, with a fedora on a pole match.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're not doing that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I love Tony D, but no, like we were done here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're done.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, you beat him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, you have congratulations to you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But this is Javans time if we're delaying it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we're getting it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Give it to me.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We're going to go over the majority.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's happening.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We can do it at a vengeance.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Stay if you're all like.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You can do it at a random television show.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You can do it at the theater at MSG, wherever you like to go to do this match.
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[SPEAKER_01]: By all means, it better not be at a stand and deliver.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know that because I will not be standing for that match, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: What I will be delivering is my heartbreak on the air if I see it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because no, like we have delayed Javans moment for the last year or so.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And we're going through some severe growing pains.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So what I don't want is for us to get played in this situation.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm tired of being played.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I want me to slow roll and slow burn this cool, but the end result, but to be Javans winning in Las Vegas and April.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: No, I don't want you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's, it's time to crown the 21 year old, making the face, keeping melanated, and I'm what it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, me as well, hit at the finish, but very good match for what it was until drew two tight jeans, McIntyre came out there and caused the interference to end the match.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Two tight jeans though.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, two tight Levi's two tight Levi's man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Listen, two tight to move.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Gotta get some breathable, movable jeans that give you the opportunity
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[SPEAKER_03]: Let me ask you a question real quick before we move on.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Is Drew on his way out?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like are we about to see him show up as all elite?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, because my man is just like just take it out, just get beat up by everybody, just sitting in letters, the nick all this.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, is he on his way out?
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[SPEAKER_01]: He reupt supposedly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So if he reupt for multiple years, for X and I'm love dollars, which I think is a lot of money, then he's here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: next year, great for him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But the booking has been suspicious for a very long time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm begging at this point for a face turn because this is getting ridiculous.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'll honestly, this man is going to lose the code again.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's why I hate this feud.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's going to lose again, probably on the first smack down of 2026.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Why are you yacking my chain on this?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Why are you torturing me?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's move on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's not going to win.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's move on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But
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[SPEAKER_01]: a last they won't let this go.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we are where we are, but he's resigned and he reopt and he's got his money.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So he's stuck indefinitely unless Hollywood comes calling.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, sure that get your bag.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, so good for him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Love me some Drew McIntyre.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Y'all know I do, but this booking is us.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I can't stand it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But moving on to a happier match, a better match that lifted my spirit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's it was so
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[SPEAKER_01]: The DC crowd got the sole Rooka experience for her doing things that not a lot of people are able to do the agility, the athleticism, the innovation, the creativity of what she does and the ring and press the crowd.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You heard the ooze and all that,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Awes, they were going off for so Ruka and Bailey is as seasoned veteran that was a great base that just hit the spots accordingly and had you on the edge of your seat when you thought that you had the win and that oops so comes through and then we got the soul snatch out of nowhere Bailey being dead weight so container and then she gets to victory with a roll up leverage pen.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I love this and the fans.
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[SPEAKER_01]: getting up for soul and seeing, wow, she's got something she's special.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I've been saying this for the last year or so.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So Ruka is going to be such a game changer on the main roster because nobody can do what she does and such a very slick.
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[SPEAKER_01]: and creative way.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She's the future.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She needs more reps, more experience, but she's grown so much in the last year that is just not all about the flash.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There are substance there as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's only gonna get better.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And Bailey was a great person to get her through this match.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And thank God there wasn't any interference from Lyra or Zarya, thank the Lord.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so a Rooka does things that male or female, there's probably two or three people that can do.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Especially when you talk about main roster, there's probably nobody that's doing what she's doing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: EOS sky may be the best female wrestler on the roster and has argument for best wrestler period in the company.
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[SPEAKER_03]: She's not doing what Soul Rook is doing out there.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The moon saw it to the outside, the handstand into the hurricane run,
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[SPEAKER_03]: I watched the whole show with my kids and let me tell you, she came out and they had no idea who she was.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They was like, what's up with her and when she hit that handstand off top, they were hooked.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I mean, everything else she was doing, they were rocking with her.
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[SPEAKER_03]: She, she absolutely is the future.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Triple H doesn't know she's half black.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So we have a real good shot of her being pushed really hard on the main roster.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I love that for her.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I can't say enough about this match.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like the NXT, everyone from NXT really showed up and showed out.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I thought they came away really well.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And Bailey, like you said, Bailey was the perfect person to have this match with.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Can take the loss and it doesn't affect anything for Soul Ruka gained a lot by the win.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She did.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This was a great spotlight moment for her.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You ain't shit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What you said, but you're not wrong.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, I'm wrong.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Continue to fly under the radar.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Make Triple H never figure this out because if he does, he will see color at that point and then we have to be concerned so we have to be very mindful that's why she not invite her parents and then she her parents were there you know why just like yeah listen not yet not yet okay when we don't see W all can come but not not yet not here not yet.
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[SPEAKER_01]: so an all seriousness.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that she's undeniable.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like you can deny like what she's meant to be on the main roster.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I agree with Fernando, she's going to revolutionize women's wrestling.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I've sent this for a while now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that she is ready made for the main roster that no one can do what she does.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just so different and creative and innovative and the fans are going to love her.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you heard that reaction.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They might not have known her in the beginning, but by the end,
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[SPEAKER_01]: They was on every nail falling.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You felt to the so snatcher and the positioning of it was perfection.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Bailey was there like we just going to have a choreograph like I'm going to lean into it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You're going to hit me out of nowhere like an RKO and it was perfection and I just really dug the match.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You felt like it was a turn in a good way for what the feature is going to be when so gets that nod to get the call up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She's going to be a special special talent when the
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, they definitely made the right decision and having soul in this match and not Kalani boredom.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Definitely, definitely made the right decision because soul is the one.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like she is going to be that, like she is literally ricochet of the women's division, like she can do literally anything she wants.
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[SPEAKER_03]: She's incredible.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, amazing, now, pause.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to let up on Kalani a little bit, okay?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, I have converted slightly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Kalani is a great heal in the ring, as a wrestler.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, as a promo and personality, we need help within a little assistant Jesus to get us over the hump.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But what we're not going to do, Scott,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now he'll work in the ring, tins, personality and promo, too.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Listen, you know, you know, I'm a harder person to convert.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It took me a long time to start giving Naomi the respect that she deserves.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, she started from a drawstring bag and now she don't work the way to be in that girl.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So it's good to take a Lonnie board.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm a little bit of time for me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, and I've converted everyone to Scott's hated.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I converted live and Naomi.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I have performed miracles.
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[SPEAKER_01]: My next one is Dom.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's almost there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like he's almost on the verge of being converted.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm three for three y'all.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I know how to get him over to my side to my way of thinking.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It took me three years for Scott to still out on Naomi three.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, you like start see the vision.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't see it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He wasn't denial.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He was.
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[SPEAKER_01]: a perpetual professional hate her and deep down he wasn't hating her he knew I was right he just couldn't say I was right and it's so he knew I was right he just couldn't admit it it it just could paint him and when I when Naomi did the turn he had no choice it was like damn it I have technology
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[SPEAKER_03]: She absolutely became one deniable when she lost her mind and started talking about all the things that her and big gym were doing when the cameras were rolling I was like, you know what she got it
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, great year for Naomi.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We need her back in the women's division in 2026 or 2027.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Need her, we need her back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But a great showcase is so Ruka.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Great preview of what the future can be for the women's division in WWE.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Then our next match was a sprint, but an exciting one with Javan Evans and Leon Slater, our exhibition champion versus the World Tag Team Champions from Monday Night Raw, the phenomenal AJ Styles and Dragon Lee, and this match started hot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The fans also a little unfamiliar with Leon Slater, but they knew Javan, but when they saw those brothers cook, they were into it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Got it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is awesome chant.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They were flying.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They were doing everything to get that pop and applause and get that love.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And they were cooking.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was really, really good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then AJ was trying to hit the, was trying to hit the,
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[SPEAKER_01]: South's plash only oscillator a couple of times to know a veil goes for the phenomenal for arm AJ slips and falls.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Was it a mistake?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Was it in the match plans?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, but they recovered and ultimately AJ hit the South's plash on the oscillator to get the W and I was like, it was a little sad by the finish, but I think that we're going to see AJ in TNA.
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[SPEAKER_01]: before you retire, on AMC, I have to get that AMC bag.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I do see AJ versus Leonce later one on one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I do sense that, we got like a little tease of it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to see it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to see it and Javan, you know, he is next up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: is next goal is to become an XChampion, preferably Asan and Deliver and Las Vegas and a few months time will fan so be up for it in four months.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll see, but for what this was, it was a 10-minute sprint, but it was a lot of fun.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it was a lot of fun.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Another nice win for Dragon, the NHA Lee, who are slowly becoming one of the better teams in WWE.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And we'll talk about a little bit later, but there's a pretty significant reason why Javon got as good of a reaction as he did.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He got a little help from Friday night, but we'll talk about that a little bit later because a certain someone is just really good at getting people over.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Probably the third best match on the show.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I agree with almost everything you said, because you're trying it again, because I have ears and I have eyes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I watch the same show you watch last night on USA.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I watch SmackDown and these fans and Pennsylvania.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, they were pro someone else during that match surprisingly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So which irritated me like they did not fully understand the assignment.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then they almost didn't understand the assignment tonight because I need to let it go.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Got to let it go, let this man go, let it go.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We don't get to miss ass right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So miss comes out there in his WrestleMania 27 year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: as if it's 2011 to torment me because he's a reason why we do not have another WrestleMania in Atlanta to this day.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We got a brand new beautiful stadium and we can't have shit in it because he ruined WrestleMania 27 because he doesn't remember it because he got concussed.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So he comes out there saying
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[SPEAKER_00]: I deserve my moment in the sun, and I had a Mexican's John Cena, it was submitted to myself that I don't remember.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I won, and I at least remember what I had on to a point.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I want my natural moment, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't care.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So our truth comes out there dressed as John Cena.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he's like, I saw what you did to Nick audaces balls.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Paul's.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So he perceives, say, this is who would have won the John Cena raffle.
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[SPEAKER_01]: For the redo match, and it was Joe Hendry, Joe Hendry, who apparently Choc, you know, likes a lot, got the rub on this show, takes off the Miss.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank God.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I'm going to push back on Scott.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So he said that Javon got this amazing moment against Michael Mazzanan.
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[SPEAKER_01]: These fans and Wilkes Bear, Pennsylvania, was cheering for this old veteran over Javon.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I heard it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I heard it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I heard it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So lies.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He didn't get anybody over.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He got himself over and irritates me and for the love of God, Carmelo stay away from him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Stay away.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Stay away.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Listen, man, can't deny greatness, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Did they want you told me about Naomi?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Can't deny greatness.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, my God.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is not what you're talking about.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They can't shake it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Hey, shout out the mic, man.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Shout out the mic, Miss Anon.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Who did with Triple H?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Sean Michaels, Cody Rhodes, Big Show, Edge, would none of them could do.
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[SPEAKER_03]: beat John Cena, Russell Mania for the title, shout out the mic, the miss, two time grand slam champion win.
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[SPEAKER_03]: John Cena just completed his first shout out to Mike, the miss.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It was just still just chugging along, getting cheered.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And listen, if Javan needs to might be his aerial adversary, we all know Mike and fly, we've seen him fly with the best of them.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Joe Hendry you want to get over go hang out with Mike you'll get you over look at our truth he's done well since my his head I'm in that title of WrestleMania shout out to Mike man glad he got to be on the show I'm disgusted Let's quickly move on from this topic because I am not here for any of this
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[SPEAKER_01]: fans don't know ball apparently don't know ball.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I've no taste in ball at all.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was a war jar.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not going to lie.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Even they were keen that they were cheering that man.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like the bouncy one.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was a good cheer.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was a little jar.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll give you even you who who is the biggest miss Homer in the world.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There is no one quite like you that loves this man like you do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And even you sat back and you said damn.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, Aurora, this ain't the time even you knew in your heart like you know what I love Mike
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[SPEAKER_01]: this anthem for this kind of love, you know, is Javans time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what was in the water the last 48 hours, but uh, no, what we're not going to do is lionize the miss because Jocelyn is retiring.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Listen, we are losing our legends, pit by pit ages getting to them and they're retiring.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But what we're not going to do is get miss over at the expense of younger talent that
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[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely not even Scott realizes you know what even for me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's a bridge too far I think I'm a big Evan's guy like I I'm I'm fully behind him and whatever they give him but it was like Like what what what we got Do we need to start asking the real questions about this town like what's yes?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like what we got going on around here.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Do we do we need to start asking the difficult questions like
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[SPEAKER_02]: Is there a reason you're not sharing your fun like do I know the reason do we want to talk about that or do we just want to move on.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, that was my first always.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we know why you're not sharing your bond.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm glad that you could put your biases aside and realize, even that do not quite feel right in that moment.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was like, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, let's get to the end of the show, the last match of John Cena versus Gunther, and the presentation in terms of seeing it coming out is great.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Him and Stu having a moment, seeing them make us way down to the ring,
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[SPEAKER_01]: gets out of the ring, hugs the people in the crowd, trash, Eve, Chattabiscuits, Book of Tea, Kevin Owens, that did get me when they hugged up, Sammy Zane, Sammy Sun, which was hyped so adorable.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Love that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, Cena was embracing his colleagues, peers,
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[SPEAKER_01]: beautiful moment, gotten the ring, little into the introductions as you said.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then this match got going and Gunther and John Cena told a great story.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was a story about Will Cena give up and his last match, something he has never done.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He never quits.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He never gives up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: On this night, Cena would give up in what way.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I love the near falls.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I love the AA attempts and the kickouts and gunk hitting the power bomb and seeing the kicking out, the counters, the sleeper being this deadly submission hold in 2025 and seeing the fighting out of that and going for the STF and then
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[SPEAKER_01]: We have going for the AA which Michael Cole called the FU going old school on that and then we got the last sleeper hold on John Cena and he tried to power through as he did before try to rise up, but he just simply looked content at piece smiled as he tapped out and the crowd.
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[SPEAKER_01]: was not happy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They were very unhappy because they thought that Cena was going to win.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that understand their anger and their shock.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But John Cena is selfless in this way.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They is going to get other people over.
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[SPEAKER_01]: on the way out the door.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's like, I don't need this W. Gunther needs it more.
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[SPEAKER_01]: In the last six months, he's retired Goberg and John Cena.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That is a hell of an accomplishment.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And with the pending retirements of AJ Styles and maybe Brock Lesnar and in Randy's time is also coming
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[SPEAKER_01]: We talk about redacted all the time in terms of why I see here, but I want a brown breaker, an Oprah family, a gumther to finish him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what she want for the majority of our time is fans.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The person who was on their way out loses their last match.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Of course you want them to have a happy ending.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I get it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But think about who does that benefit?
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[SPEAKER_01]: the person is leaving or the person needs to rub a bit more by adding set career and John seeing the thought about that and that's why you tapped out.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and you know,
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think, again, and we talked about it earlier, I think the most important thing is you got to remember this is probably John's call, and that's, you got to give that man the respect.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Also shout out to Elias.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Definitely wasn't expecting to see him in the crowd either.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So that was cool.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Eve, you want to talk about cheddar biscuit.
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[SPEAKER_03]: She can have them all.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, and, but this was, I mean, the match was really good.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Really strong match.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Now, I'm not going to lie when he did the smile for a second.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I thought he was about to go super say and scene.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I thought he was just going to lift them up and just hit the hit about five or six AAs.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But we got what we got.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And now when Gunther comes, when Gunther comes out,
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[SPEAKER_03]: On Monday Night Raw, the next time he comes out, he probably will have an opportunity to pull the Roman Roman Roman Reigns as greatest promos he ever cut was when he stood in the middle of the ring after he beat the Undertaker and just soaked it in.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Didn't say a word.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's probably one of the greatest promos he ever cut.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Gunther can do that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Now Gunther has something to brag about and as long as they do Gunther the way they did Brock after Brock ended the streak.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, there's nothing wrong with this.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You want through now just to start running through people.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I know to get plans for the title.
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[SPEAKER_03]: me personally, man, I'm shifting everything the gun through and I'm I'm probably sending gun through to smack down and go after Cody.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, why not?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I had now as the time to just feed people to gun through, let that man just become who he's supposed to be and that is the new dominant heel on the entire roster.
52:52.542 --> 52:54.164
[SPEAKER_03]: So we'll see what they do.
52:54.184 --> 52:56.108
[SPEAKER_03]: The follow up is absolutely important.
52:56.949 --> 52:59.453
[SPEAKER_03]: If Cena was going to win, it could have been anybody.
52:59.433 --> 53:02.798
[SPEAKER_03]: It could have been dumb, it could have been LA night, it really wouldn't have mattered.
53:03.058 --> 53:06.202
[SPEAKER_03]: But because it was Gunther, who's already retired Goldberg.
53:06.603 --> 53:17.117
[SPEAKER_03]: Like you mentioned, there's a whole list of legends and future Hall of Famers that are going to be retiring that if they're smart, they're just going to let him be their final match.
53:17.498 --> 53:18.319
[SPEAKER_03]: Again,
53:18.704 --> 53:38.907
[SPEAKER_03]: We have a modern day legend killer like we can that is a gimmick that can be built that can be used and that will work it worked that was one of the biggest reasons Randy you haven't got over as the young killer was because he was a legend kill he was beating all the legends he was taking them all out one by one and it got him over so quickly with the crowd
53:39.173 --> 53:42.858
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't understand what the pushback is with Gunther doing that.
53:43.238 --> 53:48.164
[SPEAKER_03]: Again, I get it, everybody want to see that I have the fairy book tail, the fairy tail lending.
53:48.765 --> 53:51.468
[SPEAKER_03]: But in his eyes, this was his fairy tail lending.
53:51.488 --> 53:53.791
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, he's done everything.
53:53.931 --> 53:54.993
[SPEAKER_03]: He didn't need to win this.
53:55.293 --> 53:56.254
[SPEAKER_03]: He did the right thing.
53:57.015 --> 53:58.998
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm satisfied with it.
53:59.478 --> 54:02.002
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm satisfied with the booze we got afterwards.
54:02.462 --> 54:04.725
[SPEAKER_03]: The arguments that followed,
54:04.891 --> 54:09.341
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, this, the emotion that you get, I mean, that the emotion is what you want.
54:09.502 --> 54:14.192
[SPEAKER_03]: You want the emotion and it's, I think it's going to make people want to see what's going to happen next.
54:14.232 --> 54:14.714
[SPEAKER_03]: We've got there.
54:14.734 --> 54:17.300
[SPEAKER_03]: It's going to make people want to see what the follow-up's going to be.
54:18.121 --> 54:21.870
[SPEAKER_03]: And you mentioned it in the discord that we have.
54:22.407 --> 54:24.513
[SPEAKER_03]: What is really going to be telling?
54:24.553 --> 54:28.744
[SPEAKER_03]: Because the Royal Rumble, the WrestleMania, all that sells itself.
54:29.346 --> 54:37.328
[SPEAKER_03]: What's really going to be telling about the crowd and the people who are angry and oh, we're so mad about everything that's going on.
54:38.472 --> 54:39.573
[SPEAKER_03]: Let's see if you tune in.
54:39.854 --> 54:43.318
[SPEAKER_03]: Let's see if you're still paying attention to what's going on next month.
54:43.338 --> 54:49.085
[SPEAKER_03]: Let's see if you are tuning into that first raw and seeing punk and brown breaker go at it.
54:49.305 --> 54:53.650
[SPEAKER_03]: Like you're still tuning in, you still care, we move on.
54:54.611 --> 54:56.394
[SPEAKER_03]: You get upset, we move on.
54:57.074 --> 54:58.696
[SPEAKER_03]: It's just what happens.
54:59.197 --> 55:00.058
[SPEAKER_03]: It sports.
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[SPEAKER_01]: life.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It goes on.
55:05.142 --> 55:05.803
[SPEAKER_01]: It happens.
55:06.524 --> 55:07.165
[SPEAKER_01]: We cope.
55:07.285 --> 55:13.073
[SPEAKER_01]: We deal new move on because yes, I mean, the ending is polarizing some people loved it.
55:13.493 --> 55:14.355
[SPEAKER_01]: Some people hated it.
55:14.475 --> 55:17.379
[SPEAKER_01]: I understand it, but this was Jocelyn's decision.
55:17.439 --> 55:19.341
[SPEAKER_01]: Paula Vecca de Borotam is in no.
55:19.722 --> 55:24.348
[SPEAKER_01]: We're not going to do that, but he decided to agree with it and ate the booze in the process.
55:24.468 --> 55:27.632
[SPEAKER_01]: And that is something he asked to deal with for
55:27.612 --> 55:29.113
[SPEAKER_01]: a very long time apparently.
55:29.133 --> 55:32.216
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm very happy that Sina went out in his terms.
55:32.657 --> 55:43.968
[SPEAKER_01]: He put someone over on the way out and realize this guy is going to greatly benefit from this as beating me on the way out the door, losing to the miss.
55:44.669 --> 55:46.250
[SPEAKER_01]: Please stop.
55:47.131 --> 55:47.671
[SPEAKER_01]: Be for real.
55:47.792 --> 55:48.953
[SPEAKER_01]: That was losing to Gunther.
55:49.053 --> 55:49.854
[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no, went.
55:50.194 --> 55:52.236
[SPEAKER_01]: Please for you for you.
55:52.276 --> 55:53.417
[SPEAKER_01]: You were happy.
55:54.140 --> 55:56.523
[SPEAKER_01]: for you, you would be over the moon, but let's be real.
55:57.003 --> 56:08.956
[SPEAKER_01]: But in this moment, Gunther needed this a bit more, and it establishes him as someone that should be taken very seriously as a guy that can end your favorite career at any given moment.
56:09.076 --> 56:19.067
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, when someone's careers on the line, and there might be a tournament, you better be scared Gunther's going to win it, because if he is by by career to ever win that match.
56:21.916 --> 56:35.520
[SPEAKER_03]: And not even to not even a tournament just when somebody's like yeah, this is gonna be my last year You know, we'll go up and then you're just gonna hear gunk thers music and everybody's like, oh, no It's gonna be one of those like it's it's ready.
56:35.540 --> 56:41.371
[SPEAKER_03]: AJ already said he's retired So when AJ's like he had it and that's gonna be my last match and then here comes gunk ther.
56:42.052 --> 56:43.915
[SPEAKER_03]: Hey, you said you last match great.
56:44.036 --> 56:45.358
[SPEAKER_03]: I'll be there
56:45.338 --> 56:46.980
[SPEAKER_03]: That's you got something right there.
56:47.000 --> 56:50.045
[SPEAKER_03]: So again, Gunther gets something from it.
56:50.445 --> 56:55.092
[SPEAKER_03]: He gets to be the guy that in the John scene this career just like Dominic Mysterio.
56:55.432 --> 56:58.296
[SPEAKER_03]: Let's not act like Dominic Mysterio didn't come out thereafter.
56:58.357 --> 56:59.238
[SPEAKER_03]: He'd be John scene.
56:59.258 --> 57:07.870
[SPEAKER_03]: If I that I see title would a whole new swag would a whole new walk to him acting like he was the man and look like the man and carried himself like the man.
57:08.423 --> 57:12.447
[SPEAKER_03]: So, Gunther's gonna get that scene and went out on a shield.
57:13.347 --> 57:22.295
[SPEAKER_03]: And again, the moment is still gonna be scene a walking out, leaving them, the shoe carnival sketches in the ring.
57:23.056 --> 57:28.801
[SPEAKER_03]: And Stan and, you know, given the salute and telling everyone it was a pleasure to serve all of you.
57:29.042 --> 57:38.430
[SPEAKER_03]: That is going to be the moment that we remember when we look back and when WWE does what they do best, which is chop up video footage and make it whatever they wanted to be,
57:38.410 --> 57:39.611
[SPEAKER_03]: Great at doing that.
57:40.352 --> 57:41.894
[SPEAKER_03]: That's going to be the moment we remember.
57:41.954 --> 57:47.161
[SPEAKER_03]: It's not going to be about how seen a loss and you know how upset the crowd was and all that.
57:47.221 --> 57:51.927
[SPEAKER_03]: It's going to be seen a given that last salute and him walking out on his terms.
57:54.310 --> 57:54.850
[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.
57:55.211 --> 58:04.182
[SPEAKER_01]: Now you tried it with shoe carnival
58:06.777 --> 58:17.591
[SPEAKER_01]: Is that the off sale, just half of the holidays black Friday special I would buy one get one 50% off.
58:17.611 --> 58:18.694
[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.
58:20.108 --> 58:21.852
[SPEAKER_03]: as someone who used to work at shoe carnival.
58:21.912 --> 58:23.175
[SPEAKER_03]: I've seen them sketches before.
58:23.475 --> 58:23.796
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
58:24.097 --> 58:25.881
[SPEAKER_03]: That was my first job at as shoe carnival.
58:26.061 --> 58:27.043
[SPEAKER_03]: I've seen them sketches.
58:27.484 --> 58:28.687
[SPEAKER_03]: He's had them for a while.
58:28.707 --> 58:31.172
[SPEAKER_03]: I know that man has some pumps he could have threw in the ring.
58:31.192 --> 58:33.176
[SPEAKER_03]: Why didn't he leave some pumps in the ring?
58:33.277 --> 58:34.399
[SPEAKER_03]: Now that I think it about it.
58:34.840 --> 58:36.323
[SPEAKER_03]: Anybody going pick up them sketches?
58:36.824 --> 58:37.586
[SPEAKER_03]: But then pumps.
58:38.127 --> 58:39.450
[SPEAKER_03]: We'd have been a hype for them pumps.
58:41.135 --> 59:03.058
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, still trying it nonetheless of all the places to shout out you said shoe carnival got the shoes they do they do and they provided the Sketchers and they was like by one get 1.5% off and they'll be delivered to your house or before Christmas if you order before the end of this week There's basically what you said and you ain't right for that
59:03.038 --> 59:09.465
[SPEAKER_01]: But I must say, like, yeah, it was definitely telling the man said, let me leave my shoes in the ring, let me take off my wrist pants.
59:09.825 --> 59:11.347
[SPEAKER_01]: Some of us, it was going to take off his shorts.
59:11.587 --> 59:12.908
[SPEAKER_01]: No, they've been hollering appropriate.
59:13.289 --> 59:16.132
[SPEAKER_01]: So he's going to, you know, who was that?
59:16.552 --> 59:17.914
[SPEAKER_01]: Who was that one man?
59:18.214 --> 59:19.115
[SPEAKER_01]: It was a man, too.
59:19.295 --> 59:19.716
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
59:20.096 --> 59:22.098
[SPEAKER_01]: Leave your shorts like, sir.
59:22.438 --> 59:25.662
[SPEAKER_01]: No, I want to see that man's junk out there like that.
59:26.763 --> 59:31.628
[SPEAKER_01]: Take off the shorts.
59:33.295 --> 59:34.038
[SPEAKER_02]: That's enough.
59:35.343 --> 59:43.033
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, if they want to speak, if you want to take them off, take them off a two capin and back on in the tights to make him the prototype.
59:43.053 --> 59:44.318
[SPEAKER_01]: Go ahead and do that.
59:45.209 --> 59:49.756
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that was not expected, but it was one guy.
59:50.116 --> 59:51.478
[SPEAKER_02]: And he was really loud.
59:51.779 --> 59:53.141
[SPEAKER_02]: Take off the shorts.
59:53.461 --> 59:53.842
[SPEAKER_02]: What?
59:54.543 --> 59:55.585
[SPEAKER_02]: Leave it alone.
59:57.668 --> 59:58.609
[SPEAKER_01]: A moment for sure.
59:58.649 --> 01:00:02.034
[SPEAKER_01]: Indeed, it was a polarizing moment when seen a lost.
01:00:02.315 --> 01:00:03.056
[SPEAKER_01]: I am fine.
01:00:03.096 --> 01:00:04.398
[SPEAKER_01]: There's or not.
01:00:04.558 --> 01:00:06.261
[SPEAKER_01]: I get your anger and frustration.
01:00:06.381 --> 01:00:06.841
[SPEAKER_01]: I do.
01:00:06.882 --> 01:00:09.225
[SPEAKER_01]: And Chipolage felt it.
01:00:09.205 --> 01:00:18.567
[SPEAKER_01]: both ways when you try to get another moment in a spotlight that backfired, try to have another moment doing the presser post show, did not work either.
01:00:18.707 --> 01:00:27.307
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's going to be interesting times, Paul Ivek is still the creative director of WWE television, running Monday night raw, smack down.
01:00:27.748 --> 01:00:27.788
[SPEAKER_01]: So
01:00:27.768 --> 01:00:45.864
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll see if those reactions carry over to the Mondays and the Fridays of it all or is this a one at apparition we shall see, but this was seen as choice and he has to live up to it and he could have got back on the mic to say, which bull and four, but he let the fans have their final state.
01:00:45.884 --> 01:00:56.593
[SPEAKER_01]: So ironic to me that after 20 plus years of pushback, ran core, the fans want to see it to win his last match and win it by being extra in the best possible way.
01:00:57.653 --> 01:01:02.097
[SPEAKER_03]: No, let me ask you this, because I talked about the important things the follow up with Gunther.
01:01:02.397 --> 01:01:14.728
[SPEAKER_03]: So, do they do the Rick Flair route when Shawn Michaels retired Rick Flair and Batista went after him because he did that and felt some type of way.
01:01:15.168 --> 01:01:27.559
[SPEAKER_03]: Do they have somebody who's close to Cena, go after a Gunther, like a shame, it's just somebody like that, like, you know what, I don't appreciate you tapping him out and do that.
01:01:27.539 --> 01:01:33.782
[SPEAKER_03]: Because CM Punk's tied up, he's got the vision and bra on the deal with what do you do with Gunther next.
01:01:33.862 --> 01:01:39.743
[SPEAKER_03]: You take them off TV for a while, what would you do, Kila with Gunther next?
01:01:40.634 --> 01:01:46.100
[SPEAKER_01]: I would have him just basically lord over Monday and that raw and say, I beat two ledges in six months.
01:01:46.721 --> 01:01:47.923
[SPEAKER_01]: Who's next on my list?
01:01:47.983 --> 01:01:50.606
[SPEAKER_01]: If you were retiring, I would retire you.
01:01:51.066 --> 01:01:54.610
[SPEAKER_01]: I went into myself and every tournament there is to retire you.
01:01:55.011 --> 01:01:56.212
[SPEAKER_01]: I am here to break hearts.
01:01:56.713 --> 01:01:58.075
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not here to make you happy.
01:01:58.115 --> 01:02:01.599
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm here to ruin this idea of what you thought was going to be.
01:02:01.739 --> 01:02:02.900
[SPEAKER_01]: Johnson is last match.
01:02:03.100 --> 01:02:05.063
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, you get, you got to get the happy ending.
01:02:05.143 --> 01:02:06.304
[SPEAKER_01]: No, be not going to get it for me.
01:02:06.545 --> 01:02:07.806
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to be this ass.
01:02:07.786 --> 01:02:10.170
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm going to win decisively.
01:02:10.350 --> 01:02:13.635
[SPEAKER_01]: I made the man pass out and he needed this, honestly.
01:02:13.675 --> 01:02:16.679
[SPEAKER_01]: So we'll see where it takes some heading into this year.
01:02:16.699 --> 01:02:20.164
[SPEAKER_01]: And Sina, this was his decision to make.
01:02:20.184 --> 01:02:28.537
[SPEAKER_01]: And one day, when they re-run the footage for a WWE unreal season finale, we're going to get some stories of it.
01:02:28.577 --> 01:02:32.302
[SPEAKER_01]: And Paula Vec is going to say, all the part of the story.
01:02:33.544 --> 01:02:36.949
[SPEAKER_01]: We want to journey is what we do.
01:02:39.005 --> 01:02:39.385
[SPEAKER_03]: epic.
01:02:40.447 --> 01:02:49.498
[SPEAKER_03]: I do want to say I thought Michael Cole had a fire line at the end when he said pro wrestling has destroyed sports entertainment.
01:02:50.138 --> 01:02:51.139
[SPEAKER_03]: I thought that was pretty dope.
01:02:51.240 --> 01:03:06.278
[SPEAKER_03]: I thought that was a pretty nice way of framing it because John Cena is definitely the epitome of sports entertainment top of the line and Gunther right now is the epitome of what pro wrestling is arguably one of the best pro wrestlers in WWE.
01:03:06.298 --> 01:03:08.320
[SPEAKER_03]: So I thought that was a great line by my
01:03:11.202 --> 01:03:15.334
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, and Michael Cole, remarkably captures emotions and check.
01:03:15.795 --> 01:03:16.717
[SPEAKER_01]: He did not break.
01:03:17.279 --> 01:03:18.061
[SPEAKER_01]: He was pissed too.
01:03:18.342 --> 01:03:19.204
[SPEAKER_01]: He was pissed too.
01:03:19.265 --> 01:03:19.786
[SPEAKER_01]: He was mad.
01:03:19.806 --> 01:03:20.709
[SPEAKER_01]: He was mad like, what?
01:03:21.391 --> 01:03:26.224
[SPEAKER_01]: We, we, we, we were so accustomed, but he had to be a professional maintained a core.
01:03:26.204 --> 01:03:26.725
[SPEAKER_01]: for sure.
01:03:26.765 --> 01:03:30.333
[SPEAKER_01]: So he had his moment most definitely to himself.
01:03:30.453 --> 01:03:33.479
[SPEAKER_01]: But as a pro, he didn't let a show on commentary.
01:03:33.840 --> 01:03:42.238
[SPEAKER_01]: He was, you know, even Steven, he was straight lays didn't do too much but backstage he probably threw a fit and byfully so.
01:03:42.218 --> 01:03:45.543
[SPEAKER_01]: So after see the losses last match, the fans are shocked.
01:03:45.983 --> 01:03:47.746
[SPEAKER_01]: They're booing, but they love Jocina.
01:03:47.766 --> 01:03:52.212
[SPEAKER_01]: So they get up and react to him and then the roster empties out the locker rooms.
01:03:52.232 --> 01:03:53.795
[SPEAKER_01]: And we have them all come at rings side.
01:03:54.235 --> 01:03:57.880
[SPEAKER_01]: CM Punk and Cody Rose present their title, Sajocina.
01:03:57.901 --> 01:03:59.963
[SPEAKER_01]: He is the last real champion.
01:04:00.384 --> 01:04:03.689
[SPEAKER_01]: If Paula Vek wasn't there, this would have gotten over.
01:04:03.729 --> 01:04:07.034
[SPEAKER_01]: The moment Paul showed up, it was all on him.
01:04:07.074 --> 01:04:11.500
[SPEAKER_01]: They audibly chained to you,
01:04:11.952 --> 01:04:12.773
[SPEAKER_01]: This is at me.
01:04:12.853 --> 01:04:14.154
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you don't know when to the ring.
01:04:14.715 --> 01:04:17.537
[SPEAKER_01]: You're the only one of the apron wanting a hug from John Cena.
01:04:17.937 --> 01:04:19.159
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they're calling you out.
01:04:19.199 --> 01:04:22.321
[SPEAKER_01]: Can you hear it and then it happened again during the post show?
01:04:22.341 --> 01:04:25.304
[SPEAKER_01]: And you heard AEW chance a little bit.
01:04:25.324 --> 01:04:32.130
[SPEAKER_01]: You heard things that will make you think about what can I do to improve my team's standing?
01:04:32.210 --> 01:04:32.611
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
01:04:32.851 --> 01:04:33.251
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll see.
01:04:35.293 --> 01:04:37.896
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, we'll see if those AEW chance are real.
01:04:38.556 --> 01:04:40.558
[SPEAKER_03]: We'll see if they tune in the collision this week.
01:04:41.180 --> 01:04:42.863
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, dynamite as well.
01:04:43.003 --> 01:04:50.477
[SPEAKER_01]: And ultimately, all of this is going to lead to what are you're going to do in terms of these events.
01:04:51.119 --> 01:04:53.283
[SPEAKER_01]: We have shows heading into WrestleMania.
01:04:53.744 --> 01:04:55.848
[SPEAKER_01]: We have elimination chamber in Chicago.
01:04:55.968 --> 01:04:57.952
[SPEAKER_01]: I know we're not traveling the society for the world.
01:04:58.052 --> 01:04:58.733
[SPEAKER_01]: You're vulnerable.
01:04:58.713 --> 01:05:00.935
[SPEAKER_01]: that is that a travel destination show.
01:05:00.955 --> 01:05:04.079
[SPEAKER_01]: So what are y'all going to do heading into WrestleMania?
01:05:04.179 --> 01:05:06.942
[SPEAKER_01]: Are you so mad that you won't buy a set ticket?
01:05:06.962 --> 01:05:09.665
[SPEAKER_01]: It's because I said what's going to be the breaking point for you?
01:05:10.145 --> 01:05:10.786
[SPEAKER_01]: Is it tonight?
01:05:10.806 --> 01:05:11.747
[SPEAKER_01]: I honestly don't know.
01:05:12.027 --> 01:05:13.128
[SPEAKER_01]: I hear this comparison.
01:05:13.269 --> 01:05:14.410
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, this is like 2019.
01:05:14.970 --> 01:05:16.011
[SPEAKER_01]: Have you lived through 2019?
01:05:16.272 --> 01:05:17.353
[SPEAKER_01]: The same 2019.
01:05:18.254 --> 01:05:21.377
[SPEAKER_01]: So the question becomes what is your tolerance level?
01:05:21.677 --> 01:05:22.398
[SPEAKER_01]: Have you reached it?
01:05:22.438 --> 01:05:26.863
[SPEAKER_01]: Because the only way I'm going to
01:05:26.843 --> 01:05:37.410
[SPEAKER_01]: And six months look at the ticket sales for these live events for WWE from the regular television shows to the PLEs will impact.
01:05:38.555 --> 01:05:40.277
[SPEAKER_01]: people buying tickets.
01:05:40.798 --> 01:05:45.364
[SPEAKER_01]: If it does, then we can look back on this and I'd ask the answer things changed.
01:05:45.784 --> 01:05:57.880
[SPEAKER_01]: If you are still going to WrestleMania, if you're going to set off the United Center in Chicago, if you're going to set off these events all over the country heading into the new year, then nothing really has changed.
01:05:58.280 --> 01:06:03.567
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just a moment in time and you move on, hopefully.
01:06:05.420 --> 01:06:22.143
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean, I mean, I, I mean, I, the other W to be going through a little bit of a, a low, but this is usually the time of year where that low happens, anyway, right before January, I think they got a few good things cooking long as Triple H and A, I don't mess it up.
01:06:22.763 --> 01:06:31.275
[SPEAKER_03]: I think they got a few good things cooking like this whole Seth Rollins and his ninjas, I think that's a good little story line that they got going on.
01:06:31.255 --> 01:06:36.461
[SPEAKER_03]: And then, you know, whatever they got going with Braun Breaker, I think they definitely have plans for him.
01:06:36.521 --> 01:06:39.165
[SPEAKER_03]: And again, the follow-up with Gunther.
01:06:39.385 --> 01:06:43.810
[SPEAKER_03]: Me personally, I'd have shame is coming, be like, yo, I don't like the way you did that.
01:06:43.830 --> 01:06:47.815
[SPEAKER_03]: And so, you know, have Gunther come out, talk smack, and then have shame is like yo, that's enough.
01:06:48.036 --> 01:06:50.799
[SPEAKER_03]: You did what you did, because you know, you're going to get a bang right at that.
01:06:50.839 --> 01:06:51.660
[SPEAKER_03]: So,
01:06:51.640 --> 01:07:04.537
[SPEAKER_03]: The follow-up is going to be key and you're right in about six months after WrestleMania can't count anything WrestleMania after that that's when we're going to see what really happens leading into summer slam.
01:07:08.382 --> 01:07:13.429
[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely so we shall see how this is all going to go and
01:07:14.236 --> 01:07:14.858
[SPEAKER_01]: He has a point.
01:07:15.520 --> 01:07:18.729
[SPEAKER_01]: What do you expect that we to be to put more effect on the show?
01:07:19.551 --> 01:07:21.236
[SPEAKER_01]: Girls, you crazy to be making millions.
01:07:21.276 --> 01:07:21.738
[SPEAKER_01]: They are.
01:07:21.798 --> 01:07:23.403
[SPEAKER_01]: They are making millions of dollars.
01:07:23.884 --> 01:07:24.686
[SPEAKER_01]: That is the question.
01:07:25.328 --> 01:07:27.013
[SPEAKER_01]: The question is, will it continue?
01:07:27.736 --> 01:07:28.537
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the question.
01:07:28.577 --> 01:07:37.189
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it will, but if you are a fan tonight, that was upset at what happened, what are you going to do?
01:07:37.830 --> 01:07:45.320
[SPEAKER_01]: Because you can boost, you can cluster, pull it out all you want to, or you're going to cheer him when he next comes out for these shows when they go back to DC.
01:07:45.600 --> 01:07:48.324
[SPEAKER_01]: Are you going to buy tickets for another show in DC?
01:07:48.644 --> 01:07:50.827
[SPEAKER_01]: Are you going to buy tickets for the next PLE?
01:07:51.267 --> 01:07:53.170
[SPEAKER_01]: These are questions that are valid.
01:07:53.150 --> 01:07:54.192
[SPEAKER_01]: There is no refund.
01:07:54.292 --> 01:07:54.893
[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously not.
01:07:54.913 --> 01:07:58.318
[SPEAKER_01]: You're not going to get your money back, but are you going to spend money again for the next show?
01:07:58.759 --> 01:08:01.824
[SPEAKER_01]: Because if you are, then this is a wash, essentially.
01:08:02.224 --> 01:08:03.146
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what I'm saying.
01:08:03.627 --> 01:08:08.194
[SPEAKER_01]: So if you are angry, you're not going to spend money on something that angers you.
01:08:09.216 --> 01:08:12.220
[SPEAKER_01]: If you're going to get over this, then you're going to get over it in a day.
01:08:12.661 --> 01:08:13.863
[SPEAKER_01]: That's where I'm at on that.
01:08:16.307 --> 01:08:16.407
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
01:08:17.332 --> 01:08:29.584
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and like I said, it'll be, I mean, this is this is the essentially the same reaction we got when Brock beat taker at WrestleMania everybody was up in arms and it was oh my God, I can't believe you did that.
01:08:29.664 --> 01:08:31.085
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not watching anymore.
01:08:32.026 --> 01:08:36.370
[SPEAKER_03]: And we moved on and Brock ended up regardless of how we feel about it.
01:08:36.410 --> 01:08:41.495
[SPEAKER_03]: Brock had a very dominant run that was planned out after that until Roman came and took him out.
01:08:41.515 --> 01:08:44.858
[SPEAKER_03]: So long as they do that with Gunther, this will all be worth it.
01:08:45.395 --> 01:08:50.989
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, when Brock beat taker, they cheered him when they we need to demolish scene at summer slam 2014.
01:08:51.130 --> 01:08:52.012
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
01:08:52.413 --> 01:09:00.413
[SPEAKER_01]: When they wanted him to beat WrestleMania when they wanted when he win the fans wanted him to beat Roman at WrestleMania 31.
01:09:02.077 --> 01:09:02.779
[SPEAKER_01]: What happened?
01:09:03.738 --> 01:09:10.106
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, Seth won, but the response was they won at Brock to win, that's what it was.
01:09:10.787 --> 01:09:23.302
[SPEAKER_03]: So, and it elevated Seth because that in Seth got a huge boost because of what Brock had just done and because of like you said, they won at Brock to be Roman and then Seth got it because he ended up beating them both.
01:09:23.402 --> 01:09:27.227
[SPEAKER_03]: So, like you said, everything's going to be fine.
01:09:27.267 --> 01:09:29.610
[SPEAKER_03]: It's all going to be a wash and we move on.
01:09:29.877 --> 01:09:37.969
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and if it's not, we'll talk about it in the six months, like I, my metric is put your money where your mouth is.
01:09:38.549 --> 01:09:43.657
[SPEAKER_01]: If you don't like something, if this is your wall, don't buy anything else.
01:09:44.518 --> 01:09:47.422
[SPEAKER_01]: People, as you said, people are going to watch no matter what.
01:09:47.823 --> 01:09:49.385
[SPEAKER_01]: So we're going to do what they're going to do.
01:09:49.425 --> 01:09:50.566
[SPEAKER_01]: This is just a moment in time.
01:09:50.927 --> 01:09:55.193
[SPEAKER_01]: What I'm saying is if you're that pissed off about what happened.
01:09:55.173 --> 01:09:56.695
[SPEAKER_01]: put your money where your mouth is.
01:09:57.436 --> 01:09:58.698
[SPEAKER_01]: You want to cut such a billage?
01:09:59.099 --> 01:10:01.042
[SPEAKER_01]: Don't pay $30 for the where your rumble.
01:10:02.003 --> 01:10:03.987
[SPEAKER_01]: Don't watch it in, at the end of January.
01:10:04.027 --> 01:10:06.430
[SPEAKER_01]: Don't watch elimination chamber.
01:10:06.490 --> 01:10:08.974
[SPEAKER_01]: Don't watch the road to WrestleMania.
01:10:09.054 --> 01:10:12.760
[SPEAKER_01]: Don't go back to Vegas if this is your red line.
01:10:13.060 --> 01:10:26.172
[SPEAKER_01]: And we'll see if something changes in six months in terms of the metrics, we could look back on this side and say, yeah, this was, this was the night things turn until that day comes tonight was a moment in time.
01:10:26.673 --> 01:10:28.174
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, it's the same who knows.
01:10:30.436 --> 01:10:31.597
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, no, with that.
01:10:32.278 --> 01:10:33.439
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, all right.
01:10:33.459 --> 01:10:35.681
[SPEAKER_01]: He's so we have the ceremony, post shall happen.
01:10:35.741 --> 01:10:38.583
[SPEAKER_01]: Triple H got boot got cast out again.
01:10:38.603 --> 01:10:41.346
[SPEAKER_01]: He said, I thought, I was going to be louder.
01:10:42.001 --> 01:10:46.828
[SPEAKER_01]: and then they turned the mic down essentially to get through the interview.
01:10:47.269 --> 01:10:50.954
[SPEAKER_01]: So he was peaved at it, but we'll see what Monday brings.
01:10:51.095 --> 01:10:53.338
[SPEAKER_01]: Paul Vick's got to go on the socials and hype up.
01:10:53.779 --> 01:10:56.763
[SPEAKER_01]: It being epic.
01:10:56.783 --> 01:11:01.650
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, so yeah.
01:11:01.670 --> 01:11:06.237
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but I bet it'd be careful prison trip
01:11:07.904 --> 01:11:11.088
[SPEAKER_03]: We already hate us anyway, so like, what's he gonna deal?
01:11:11.329 --> 01:11:11.950
[SPEAKER_03]: That's true.
01:11:12.430 --> 01:11:13.031
[SPEAKER_03]: That's true.
01:11:14.053 --> 01:11:14.834
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
01:11:14.874 --> 01:11:15.495
[SPEAKER_03]: You say that.
01:11:15.535 --> 01:11:18.018
[SPEAKER_03]: They might miss going to WWE championships.
01:11:18.078 --> 01:11:20.882
[SPEAKER_01]: Sir, if that happens, and I will turn in my fan card.
01:11:20.942 --> 01:11:21.443
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll be done.
01:11:21.483 --> 01:11:22.485
[SPEAKER_01]: Seriously.
01:11:25.969 --> 01:11:26.751
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the ultimate.
01:11:26.811 --> 01:11:29.895
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, all of us, essentially, if that happens.
01:11:30.854 --> 01:11:35.218
[SPEAKER_03]: even me, I would be like, all right, let's take it easy.
01:11:35.458 --> 01:11:38.541
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, there's a speech championship right there if we gotta give him something.
01:11:39.302 --> 01:11:41.244
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, actually, there's not is there.
01:11:42.025 --> 01:11:46.129
[SPEAKER_01]: No, well, there is a speech, listen, the dude won the speech championship and now he's off television.
01:11:47.750 --> 01:11:48.611
[SPEAKER_01]: How does that happen?
01:11:50.313 --> 01:11:51.554
[SPEAKER_01]: Jasper Troy, man.
01:11:52.475 --> 01:12:00.743
[SPEAKER_01]: One the speech championship and now he's off television and the
01:12:02.225 --> 01:12:09.197
[SPEAKER_03]: They wait in the day, wait in the redabio and triple A on Fox Fox Fox Fox, that's the one y'all.
01:12:09.257 --> 01:12:10.199
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, absolutely.
01:12:10.539 --> 01:12:14.847
[SPEAKER_01]: The new Fox bag because it's a relationship never ends one way or another.
01:12:14.887 --> 01:12:18.793
[SPEAKER_01]: But that is a wrap for Josh in his retirement.
01:12:19.434 --> 01:12:19.895
[SPEAKER_01]: It's over.
01:12:19.955 --> 01:12:20.977
[SPEAKER_01]: He's done.
01:12:21.017 --> 01:12:22.680
[SPEAKER_01]: Fennito.
01:12:22.660 --> 01:12:25.905
[SPEAKER_01]: It's been a ride, it's been an experience of what a way to end it on his terms.
01:12:26.406 --> 01:12:27.808
[SPEAKER_01]: And I respect the man for that.
01:12:28.510 --> 01:12:30.873
[SPEAKER_01]: He went out and assort, and I'm not mad.
01:12:30.914 --> 01:12:38.225
[SPEAKER_01]: Some people are, but hey, we'll see what happens tomorrow and the next day and the next day.
01:12:38.786 --> 01:12:41.631
[SPEAKER_01]: But Scott, your final thoughts on this event.
01:12:43.130 --> 01:12:44.413
[SPEAKER_03]: I thought it was a really good show.
01:12:45.175 --> 01:12:54.255
[SPEAKER_03]: The only finish I thought was really bad was the first one just because I think either one of them would have been fine, like Cody would have been fine taking a law especially of Drew and her fears.
01:12:54.295 --> 01:12:58.725
[SPEAKER_03]: So that was the only finish that I really just didn't like.
01:12:58.705 --> 01:13:02.875
[SPEAKER_03]: Overall, I think the show accomplished exactly what John himself said he wanted to do.
01:13:02.935 --> 01:13:05.421
[SPEAKER_03]: And that's showcase in XT talent.
01:13:05.661 --> 01:13:06.343
[SPEAKER_03]: Ober look great.
01:13:06.844 --> 01:13:07.706
[SPEAKER_03]: Soul look great.
01:13:08.147 --> 01:13:09.631
[SPEAKER_03]: Leon and Javan look great.
01:13:10.332 --> 01:13:12.136
[SPEAKER_03]: Not much more you can ask for.
01:13:12.237 --> 01:13:14.422
[SPEAKER_03]: And seeing it put over the next the next guy.
01:13:14.502 --> 01:13:16.647
[SPEAKER_03]: So I thought it was a really good show.
01:13:16.627 --> 01:13:29.965
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought so as well, despite the first match booking of it all, but otherwise, really solid show from WWE despite how people felt about the ending and we'll see how that carries overheading into the end of this year and to the next.
01:13:30.486 --> 01:13:34.852
[SPEAKER_01]: And so that's a wrap on all things, WWE, VIA WWE post game live.
01:13:35.253 --> 01:13:38.277
[SPEAKER_01]: I want to thank my co-host, my co-happed, my co- captain.
01:13:38.677 --> 01:13:41.041
[SPEAKER_01]: So I've just got young for joining me to recap.
01:13:41.061 --> 01:13:45.587
[SPEAKER_01]: The highs and lows and
01:13:46.360 --> 01:13:56.934
[SPEAKER_03]: They've had Michaela and as always, it's a pleasure to chop it up and talk all things WWE, looking forward to the rap on Tuesday to see what they got in store for some Monday.
01:13:57.174 --> 01:13:58.476
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm looking forward to the raw.
01:13:58.676 --> 01:14:05.765
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm curious to see what the follow-up is with Gunther and if they even acknowledge and then see how they move on.
01:14:06.065 --> 01:14:12.013
[SPEAKER_03]: I think there will be extra eyeballs on Monday and I raw so I they should try to put on a good show.
01:14:11.993 --> 01:14:12.594
[SPEAKER_01]: agree.
01:14:12.734 --> 01:14:16.097
[SPEAKER_01]: Last live show of the year I believe because holidays are coming up.
01:14:16.117 --> 01:14:22.862
[SPEAKER_01]: So they got to make a count double tapings are incoming for raw and smack down to get us to rule the end of the year.
01:14:22.902 --> 01:14:27.787
[SPEAKER_01]: They are going to space these things out, but it's going to be like we're doing one show for this week, one show for next week.
01:14:28.147 --> 01:14:29.268
[SPEAKER_01]: You should do it the end of the year.
01:14:29.668 --> 01:14:41.258
[SPEAKER_01]: First Raws of 2025 will be at the Barclay Center in Brooklyn, New York and smack down those back of three hours,
01:14:41.238 --> 01:14:54.776
[SPEAKER_01]: on Tuesday to recap the fallout on Monday night raw talk all things in XT and then get you ready for the end of the year as we prep for yes, the fourth annual wrap awards.
01:14:54.936 --> 01:14:56.260
[SPEAKER_01]: It is coming.
01:14:56.240 --> 01:14:57.341
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll select a date.
01:14:57.441 --> 01:14:58.603
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll talk about it later.
01:14:59.063 --> 01:15:03.048
[SPEAKER_01]: But until then, enjoy the rest of your night.
01:15:03.568 --> 01:15:10.837
[SPEAKER_01]: And the weekend as we reconvene on Tuesday at 11ish via the Fiky Media Network YouTube channel to recap all things.
01:15:11.838 --> 01:15:12.439
[SPEAKER_01]: WWE.
01:15:12.879 --> 01:15:17.805
[SPEAKER_01]: So for myself and Facial Discard Young, that is a wrap for WWE Post Game Live.
01:15:17.845 --> 01:15:20.408
[SPEAKER_01]: Take care and bye-bye.