Callum Newman Makes History! NJPW Sakura Genesis 2026 Review | Speaking of Strong Style

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[SPEAKER_02]: Sakura Genesis filed the same pattern we've seen for a while from New Japan.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There was some good wrestling on the show.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There was some excellent wrestling in fact, but it was mostly forgettable undercard and the audience has continued to dwindle.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Did they make the right calls on booking?

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[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to look at the Sakura Genesis show, what it has set up for the future, and then wonder just how much AEW are we going to have to put up with for the next couple of months?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Would Jeremy find stone?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm Stephen Conway, this is Speaking of Strong Style.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We started 430 every week and it always surprises me.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Welcome, everyone.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Just speaking, it's Drunkstile.

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[SPEAKER_02]: When we discuss news, this is in the events around New Japan, Pro Wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm here with Jeremy Feinstein, we're contributors to the fight game media network.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Jeremy, we had a show on Saturday, Sacra, Genesis, but that was a while ago.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And a little bit of life has happened since then.

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[SPEAKER_02]: How are you doing?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Have you been all right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I went to a Renaissance fair between the last show and this one.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's what I've been up to.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What have I done?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I watched a lot of TV.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I caught up on show with the wife.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But again, I just sat down and just watched a bunch of TV over the last couple of days.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I had busy stuff going on with work over Easter weekend, but I'm not really like an Easter guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So when, uh, once that guy had written, I started taking all the displays down.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know that that was kind of day.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was having, uh, so far so good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I, uh, I was just taking in that

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[SPEAKER_01]: show the weekend, and then we had the eight, he W show out of nowhere last night.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then, uh, you got me all round up going into the show, then you're like, yeah, I'm not going to come out of thought if I thought I am, and then, uh, you're, you're just blabbered away, and I'm like, no, I've even, we're going live, and then if you can hear the beginning of the recording here, we'll, oh, we're live.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, I did that on purpose, but yeah, it was, it's one of those things where we were sitting, we try not to talk much before the show, but frankly, we really couldn't help it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Dynamite kind of got us rolling a little bit, and then everything just kind of started flowing down hill like a snowball, rolling down a mountain, as we just kept kind of gaining momentum talking about this past week in New Japan, because

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[SPEAKER_02]: Pardon me.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I go ahead.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm just saying that it's a microcosm.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There was some really great stuff on Saturday and yet other stuff or just like what are they doing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's so much left and right with these guys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I knew what kind of show we were going to have when I turned on dynamite last night.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think we'll offer it a suit and I was like, oh, shit, here we go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He showed up in a suit and he was wearing the United Empire suit and for the get go, I'm like, oh, these guys are showing up and I was on the discord earlier and I was just like, yeah, you know, you know, you know, you know, have hard could show up on dynamite, but it'd be like super weird because you're

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think anybody on AWS can have the faintest ideas who any of these guys are, and they did their best so I can clean it, but testing you last night and telling you that this is happening which is like, oh god, Steve and have to watch AEW let loose the gates of chaos and let loose the gates of hell they show us gonna go off the rail.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We're gonna get to that angle.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to get to that angle later, but yeah, they, they, they didn't know this guy scores.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, and, and having Excalibur Yammer on at 100 miles an hour during the angle doesn't help.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, and it's, it's, well, we'll get to all that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There was, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, and we have some comments, Colin is here, Jeremy Orr is here, Brad is here with us, Jordan from Canada is here.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm glad you guys are here because it was a pretty eventful week.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to get to your questions and I can tell.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We can tell when we already have questions in the chat when we start the show.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I know that everybody's cracking their knuckles like, oh, we have thoughts.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We have thoughts.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We have thoughts.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you'd be a collaborative show, everybody.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes it is.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm glad.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm glad for it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So let's talk about this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to go in order.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We also have some very interesting announcements for best of super juniors.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to talk about that as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we're not, not, not.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, good guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm talking about much.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Boy, we we wrong.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Boy, where we wrong.

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[SPEAKER_02]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So let's get into

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[SPEAKER_02]: at the real goal of couldn't kind of sumo haul.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The attendance for this one, and you know, I always bring this out, 6,000, 9.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That is down 9% from last year's 6,600.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was still better than the very disappointing King of Pro Wrestling show that that train rack had 5,300 for Zack versus Takeshta and a main event nobody seemed to really want to see.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But this one had 6,000, so in the middle there, but again,

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[SPEAKER_02]: whatever, go to a bump they had, you know, year over year, it's been given back.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So we had a pre-show match to start with.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We're just going to go down these things.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There's plenty of news out there because they've announced a lot of matches all the way up to the top of the out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you can't, all the best of super-changered matches, they're like two over 200 matches that we have to afford to.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There's a lot going on, but it began with Koshita, and Maastoria Asada, defeating Tyson, Nakahara, and Tetsuya Matsumoto.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And it was a nice little match to open Matsumoto, and Koshita would go together.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But this was, again, Jeremy, a undercard that may have happened and may not have, and the world would have turned the exact same way, either direction.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It just, New Japan shows have become very, very top-heavy, and the first half, very, very visible.

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[SPEAKER_01]: When that match started, I did not expect Cuchita to go as hard as he did in this match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He went pretty hard.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, the only thing that I could say, and this was just the line that it came up with before the show, because I didn't have much to say about this match was, she took now a teacher at the LA Dojo, and this was a match where he took those guys to school.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like when he was wrestling them he was aggressive and he was showing that like taken up through their pace and I just I felt like I was watching a guy who was wrestling the way he was wrestling 10 years ago and a fun for a night entirely predictable how it went.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you want to speak Ashita you know be a teacher teaching that's a match for you.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Alright.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We're not going to spend much time in the center card because we know you guys want to talk about the big events that came out of this show anyway.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So we're going to blow through this here real quick.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So we had TMDK that's Hartley Jackson and Kosefujita.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They defeated Master Wato and Togi Makabe and other pretty forgettable match.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The only thing that was interesting to me, just after we talked about how they hardly ever beat Togi Makabe,

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[SPEAKER_02]: They beat Toghi Makabe.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Hartley Jackson hit him with a DVD and pinned him.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right after, Makabe had tangled with you, Uemora.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So he tangles in Korka Hall with Uemora, and then loses to Hartley Jackson.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I knew Japan cannot help themselves in making Uemora look as much like a chomp as humanly possible.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But they did it here again.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So Makabe doesn't lose much.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But he lost here to Hartley.

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[SPEAKER_02]: If this means that they think a little bit more of Hartley than they did a few months ago, then good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, partly one of social media this week and asked anyone and everyone for help in a single t-shirt design because the office wanted a shirt for him, and he had no idea where to start.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I will say that he is gathered enough fan support for the office to make an effort on his behalf, which I like, he should be beating Tokimakabe.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You, you, you, Merch, should not be in view of Tokimakabe.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hurley Jackson should just be beating Tokimakabe.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is where we are at 2026.

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[SPEAKER_01]: However, this is a more as of a BS that we may have to navigate over the next few weeks.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well said.

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[SPEAKER_02]: After that, we had Robbie X, Shingo Takagi and Taiji Ishimori against Francesco Akira, Jake Lee, and Jacob Austin Young.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Jake Lee is now in full Joker gimmick.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's doing his big impression of the Dark Knight version of the Joker.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And Jacob Austin Young is doing jobs, but he's wrestling well in them, and Shingo pinned him with the last of the dragon.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Shingo is going to have a pretty big

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, it wasn't the second match on the card, but it definitely the trope of the guy getting the pin early on in the show coming back out for the, uh,

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, for that, so that big title showed out that we did not affect to happen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, if you'd done it on the second match of the card, maybe we would have been more inclined to think how I was gonna win, you know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, what's a shit with a shingo getting a pan and you're like, hmm, that's interesting, shingo.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But winner of the card, they don't, they haven't done fourth match on the card, they usually do the second with the first match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Fifth to a little slide a hand there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: After that, we had Aaron Wolfe Tiger Bass Toriano and Yo, they defeated the House of Torture for them.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Tiger Bass got a decent rally in this one.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Wolf got the submission on kind of Maru.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Tiger at Mass actually looked good in a couple of short those spurts there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We also found out that Aaron Wolf is doing a very old school thing, Jeremy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He is doing a taking on all comeers gimmick for a TV special later on where you get a cash prize if you can pin Aaron Wolf.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This used to be something the pro wrestlers did everywhere, uh, but way back in the olden days they would, uh, kind of right

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[SPEAKER_02]: in some ways, pro wrestling evolved out of carnivals doing stuff like this, but even into the 1970s and a little bit into the 80s, there were guys that would do the anybody in the crowd can last five minutes with this guy who was trained Bob Roup did it, there were a bunch of others that did it, guys that were trained shooters and could would not give up the promoters money anyway.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's an old school thing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think Aaron was going to be injuring people the way those guys did back in the day, but it's going to be this exhibition doesn't television Where if you can pin Aaron will if you get a cash prize and a significant one a decent amount of money.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm curious to see who turns up It's not going to be in a new Japan show.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's on somewhere else by the way.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's not going to be.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't think that's the word.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Anywhere near a new Japan show just in case we go wrong But the

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[SPEAKER_01]: The graphic here, I just realized, uh, I don't know when I grabbed these, but water and tiger mask are inverted all the graphic.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I had to take it down real quick.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: What are happening here?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Why do I have the wrong graphic?

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I know, right, right up and they switched that match up in last second and put Tiger Mask in the preview.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, because they're doing the, he's going to be there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The, the opponent for Doki.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So he switched that around.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And Ripshot mentions that's what George Hackensmith did.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, sure.

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[SPEAKER_02]: A lot of guys did that stuff.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm trying to think of who used to do it for southeast and wrestling and and Ron Fuller.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He did a take on all comeers thing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: uh... when he was the promoter but i mean it went into the nineteen eighties guys were doing stuff like that uh... the one that i don't know what that the one that keeps popping into my head is bob roop only because there's a story of a very uh... limber guy who actually got out of bob roops sugarhold and embarrassed him at a show one time uh... and that was a kind of a famous story the bob roop who gone

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[SPEAKER_02]: had been doing that gimmick forever.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Bob Rupa was a Olympic level, Greco Roman wrestler and had learned a lot more than just Greco Roman wrestling over his training and was a legit tough guy, but a guy who was just extraordinarily

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[SPEAKER_02]: the almost contortion levels of flexibility managed to slither out of the the fame sugarhold that was the the doom of most of the all-comers guys.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So there were you mostly hear about when that went wrong but there were thousands upon thousands of times when wrestlers would do that gimmick and not give up any of the promoters money like I mentioned that was their job.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The truth is, you used to do it for the love of God, he used to, but a lot of that stuff was worked at carnivals and stuff like that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, they would have a guy who would, you get the farmer strong guy that the guy could handle just because he was strong, but didn't know what he was doing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Then they would have a guy come out of the crowd who was a plant, and that would be the worked match to make it look like this guy was getable.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And to try to get more people to to volunteer and to pay money to try to beat the beat the wrestler beat the strongman.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And of course, they couldn't, you know, solve a carnival.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think they did a little bit of that in the military at Burke movie.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They came out a couple of years ago too, but oh, let me ask you this, Steven.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This was a completely by the number of South of George Herbert's Holontime match, except to me, the end where Air Wolf,

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[SPEAKER_01]: go out, can't amarrant.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you think the match is over.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But for whatever reason, they decide to do a show victory and

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[SPEAKER_01]: defeat Don Folley and have Aaron Wolf pin him in a decorative 1, 2, 3 is if that could post to mitigate or make him look good or anything whatsoever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What were your thoughts about this whole post match?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to get one over on Don Folley in a completely meaningless moment and then having you know, all the yo and Toro Yano just cheering in the ring that like they got what

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I figured it was exactly what it turned out to be that they were setting up fall-a versus Aaron Wolf on one, and that they were just going to do something here to get fall-a angry enough to accept the one-on-one match with Wolf, which they're going to do not coincidentally right before the Rennerita Boltono leg.

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[SPEAKER_02]: never open-way title match.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So we'll get to all that as we start looking ahead.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I think that was all a setup for that night of wrestling, Don Taku.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They have something in mind for Wolf that is beyond Don Fale, but they need to get a match with Wolf where he can go over, I think, and this was just a way to get Fale angry enough at Wolf that he would accept a singles match.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That was my theory when I

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[SPEAKER_01]: All they had to do was build Aaron Wolf to be strong and dominant and then don't follow him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Come along.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You said, no, you're not an Aaron Wolf, like, yes, I am.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And when they face off, it proves out that Aaron Wolf is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They've done all of these other things to make Aaron Wolf look lesser when literally that is all you had to do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Aaron Wolf was like, I'm going to take you down and that all there is to it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I am here are you are you insinuating are you implying are you hinting at the idea that perhaps what I'm saying that's a job that that booking in New Japan isn't optimal right now is that what you're trying to say Jeremy for the booking in New Japan isn't optimal back to me into a quarter in that one moment Stephen and I'm saying that no I wish they would have taken a different direction with Aaron Wolf character and progression.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Before we move on to some of the matches that actually matter, I want to get some of these comments on here, but Nick Reeves mentioned this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He said, I knew what tennis would be down from the go-to and night-toe bumps the previous two years, but all things considered, I think, sitting 6,000, whether an unproven main event duo was a slight encouragement.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I guess the issue is if you keep dropping 10%, there aren't that many years left before you run out of presents to drop.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And right now they're just not hitting on any cylinders, let alone all of them.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He also mentioned that Jake is already such a far cry from what he was three months ago in the Tokyo dome.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Clouderian, Jeremy, you talked about this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They gave him his title match that exactly the right time, because the longer he's there, the less diminishing return to the buddy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, exactly.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, he's not a great wrestler.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's he's an interesting and character.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We know like you have characters in New Japan.

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[SPEAKER_01]: In a lot of ways, you will was a character.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, you hated his matches, but his character will such

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[SPEAKER_01]: had such energy in the room that he was undeniable.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think Jake, we are trying to be undeniable, but he has to get the reps in with the if guys and actually make an effort to get, to try to get to the level of the New Japan talent that has been there for a while in order for this to work.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If he is just going to be the lumbering,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Basically, Korean, Hickaleo, you're going to get where you're going to get out of it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And that's whatever Nick Greene says he can't wait for Lex Luger to show up and pin Aaron Wolf.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But Brad mentions this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He says I kind of like how they handle Aaron recently.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He still has the house the torture stink around him, but he's been better all around.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'll be glad when he's not wrestling house the torture every night because I don't think

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's going to get better wrestling these guys and doing these types of matches.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's just not, this is not the iron that will sharpen any iron.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've got a tie, I don't exactly remember who he wrestled in the middle of February that wasn't house to torture, but it was a breath of fresh air.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: He just went out there and it was just like, okay, everyone just seems to be like, I give a shit about this right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: you know, and I'm with Brad like I don't think Aaron Wolf is unwatchable.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think that he's like terrible in any way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just find it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: on interesting, you know, like they haven't given me a reason to like really think my teeth in and say, oh, I get it with this guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to see him, I want to see him like ride the sky to the moon.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like if I haven't had that moment, I haven't had that, you know, they gave it to you a little bit of rest of Kingdom, but they immediately regressed him and did not have a plan to smoke and mirror this until they got it right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They could have, you know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: They, they do have the guy, but they walked up United Empire with, you know, unbound company, but maybe if you put Great O'Con with Aaron Wolf for just a little bit, or some of these other guys that have been in the system that it really doesn't matter if they win or lose against their wolf, they could take a loss, it would have just been better than house torture for the last three.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, Jeremy or is asking are they pushing house the torture right now and the answer is kind of sort of that and he mentioned they give them so much time on these shows.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And it really bogged down the New Japan cup by having three bad house torture matches per show it seemed.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And well, it didn't seem that's what literally was for most of that tournament and then.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's the issue is they're the only heels on the roster.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And we can talk about United Empire, but they're tempering that for now by having one of the most popular guys on the show as a member.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's a strange thing right now where there just aren't any heels that are particularly over in New Japan, at least they know people will boo house a torture.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so I think they kind of get some spots off of that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's a poor group right now, especially with

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, we, we got, we showed our frustration with evil because he didn't wrestle with me knew he could.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And now House of Tortures, a bunch of guys who really can't even if they wanted to.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And most of them don't want to.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, who, who in this, I mean, seriously, if you asked me like, who, who's match, I would want to watch who in House of Tortures, but I want to go, what I want to see go 20 minutes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And it's the ocean, no, but kind of Maro and Dictogo are the answer.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Everybody else, I want out of the ring as soon as human

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's it's a struggle.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's a struggle right now, but they don't have any heels that are over.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They don't have any baby faces right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, look at the attendance.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Nobody's over.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So They actively told you for the last three months that there was a guy and he was the guy and now he's not the guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And there is no guy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There's no guy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, there's no guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I struggle with this part of it because I know that there are people in the room of creative of New Japan that are probably sitting there and saying, we have a plan, it's all going to play out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: People want to see the young guy or the now be the now not they're still the guys of now are being treated as the stars of tomorrow.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't know what the end game is here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I have a feeling I know what the end game is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: but they really have to get their ass geared and create both heels and baby faces that the audience despises and that the audience want to see overcome the odds.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's all they have to do and yet they are more intrinsically focused on creating relationships between factions

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[SPEAKER_01]: and creating this kind of drama and tension then out and out saying these guys are good guys these guys are bad guys they're gonna fight and they're gonna be a winner.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah and it's an issue that we see with one of their partner promotions say UW is where nobody's a baby face to no one's a heal.

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[SPEAKER_02]: and nobody's over.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Those are the two fading companies right now, where attendance is dwindling, interest is dwindling.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And we're seeing the fruits of that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It doesn't, it's not working.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And they don't have any good guys to believe in because they constantly fail.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They just consistently come up short, which is not inspiring to anybody.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And the heels are mushy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Just, there's nobody that's particularly over or particularly good on the heels side.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think Calum Newman is eventually going to be a full on unequivocal heal and he's almost there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's almost, so we see what's coming, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: We know what, where was the only guy that doesn't know what's about to happen to him, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: That'll help.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And he's talented enough to carry it once he gets there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We said the same thing about Finlay where this guy's not at, no, he thinks the aim is a serious deal.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And that changed.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He, he, he, he fixed that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He just did his job.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He wrestled well.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He kept a seal persona.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think Newman's going to do that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But that's, but he also has to have somebody to be up against.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And right now, who on the baby face side would you ever believe in will come through for you in a big match?

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[SPEAKER_02]: There's nobody right now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And they just continue to cut the legs off of anybody who even threatens to become that guy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And it's probably like I said, I don't know if it's triple H syndrome on the part of time.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I actually where he doesn't want anybody to be over like he was, you know, maybe they'll forget about me.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe he's that insecure.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But it this also follows a couple of new Japan patterns when we get to the main event that we're going to get into.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So they can't get out of their own way at the moment.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And what they won't do is pick someone and go with them.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They keep dithering.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They'll somebody win a big match and then they lose the next big match.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And 50, 50 booking helps.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I absolutely nobody.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And it's just when you see these guys.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They have almost 500 records and singles matches.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to use a sports analogy here, Jeremy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: What is the least interesting thing in sports?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Is the team that's 500?

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[SPEAKER_02]: The team that wins, of course, that's always interesting.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You always keep an eye on them.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They're contending for championships.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They're players of the biggest stars.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The team that loses all the time is interesting.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Are they going to fire the coach?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Are they going to blow up the team?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Are they just going to trade everybody?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Are they going to dump everybody off and then tank and stino go into the draft?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Who are they going to draft?

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's interesting.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, it's not interesting.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The basketball team that goes 41 and 41.

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[SPEAKER_02]: the NFL team that's eight and eight or I guess well they play 17 games now but you get the point.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Nothing is less interesting than 500.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's boring.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's kind of where everybody is right now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like sometimes they win, sometimes they lose.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well okay but we don't really carry the way if that's the case.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They need to create baby faces.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The people believe in will come through for them.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They need to create heels that stay heel and act like heels.

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[SPEAKER_02]: House of torture does but they aren't good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And they just don't have the courage right now, the spine, to get behind someone and go with them.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And it's absolutely killing him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That they need, they need rest of what we're doing remarkable shit, you know, like what Calam do it did winning the cup at a young age, winning the title at a young age, that remarkable, that got people talking, that put his name on the map in a way that they've been unable to do with a number of these guys in the last few years, in the run up and trying to establish them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was bold what they did, but

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is the thing that, these are the kind of bold decision that should have been made over the last two years.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And now they're doing it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And people were just kind of upset.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Did it wasn't the guys that they wanted it to be?

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[SPEAKER_01]: They chose, they chose Cowell.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we're gonna get into all of this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're just, we're perpetually at a crossroads that we keep turning left and left and left and ending up back at that crossroads every couple of months.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Instead of heading in a direction, say, this is our destination.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I felt like coming out of the cup, like going into the cup, that this was the,

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[SPEAKER_01]: the next story of what's going to happen in New Japan, and I had a certain idea of what they needed to be doing and who they needed to be focused on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think the thing that I had to recalibrate was that they decided to go in a direction and it bold and I don't necessarily think it's the right direction, but they're on it and we're just going to have to enjoy it or not

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[SPEAKER_01]: But it is a direction and I don't know if this direction only goes through demand or if it goes through the rest of the year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It can go in any single way that they want.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But if this is to re-establish Yoda, they'd already established them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, we need him at the anchor for the entire year in order to re-establish the dominance of this promotion.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What doing with Calm was a decision and it was strategic that undercut Yoda in a way that like, okay, we can get him back up there, but we're choosing this guy as the tool to get him there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm not sure if those are the right place at the right time to do it, but they did it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And here we are.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and I'm not going to say it was the wrong call.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to say it was just a bold call.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Here's the point to illustrate your point about the four left turns that takes you right back where you were in the first place.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Last year in the G1, Yoda Suji, who had been a finalist in 2024, loses in the semi-finals in 2025.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So it doesn't do as well year over year.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Both showed at Umino and Yoyumura had matches in the G1 last year that were either in the playoffs or to get into the playoffs.

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[SPEAKER_02]: loss, loss, loss.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So all three of those guys had a chance and had a big match in a G1 situation to advance loss, loss, loss, loss.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Come around in this new Japan cup.

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[SPEAKER_02]: What it showed a new you do, they teamed up and they lost.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, you'll just want the world title.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You think, okay, this is the guy they're gonna get behind, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Look what happened in the New Japan Cup.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You you went deep in it, showed a wet deep in it, lost, lost, failed, failed.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Again, just like in the G1, had a chance, failed, had a chance, failed.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, to suit you, face the winner of the New Japan Cup, lost.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Over and over again, the story is these native New Japan guys lose in big situations.

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[SPEAKER_02]: three left turns to get right back where we were.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's the same story they told the G1.

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[SPEAKER_02]: These guys aren't the guy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They come up short every single time.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They just did it again in the New Japan cup.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Came up short every single time.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Two a guy who is seen as a partial a foreigner or an outsider or someone who's not due to Japan.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And yes, I know that the story is trying to get them back up there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But for the love of God, how many times if you're seeing the results of all these failures,

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[SPEAKER_02]: Is the by the time they actually may someday before we're old and gray pull the trigger on somebody there aren't going to be enough people left in the audience to make a difference.

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[SPEAKER_01]: When you lose as a star all the time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The perception of you get lucky when you finally win the big one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: not that you broken through and you're going to and you're going to be that guy from here on out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, well, we finally won one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's awesome.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, if you're ever going to win one ever again, you know, and you got you got a point.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You got a lot of mouths to feed with the with the now generation and people on the come up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it's like Eota.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There, you get showed up apparently on the way, but on their heels, it's Fujita, on their heels, you know, I, all the heels is all the other guys that they're, that they're training and working with, they're bringing in other talent from other promotions with a fragmented way that, you know, signing car, there's going to be mouths to feed that they're not planning on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: you know, at this point, you know, and draw day right now is somebody that is in a conversation of, would you put a belt on him in New Japan?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm kind of a little pig and sure, maybe mystical, all of a sudden he's all over the place here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I'm like, he has a mouth to feed and he has a huge star.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, like all of these things and all these people coming up and

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, but he's a star in Mexico, they need stars in Japan, they need stars in Japan, no, enough of this shit.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But there's a couple of things.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, Warrior, I said that nobody's a heal, nobody's a baby face and AEW, Warrior, who says, MJF is a heal, except he's a heal that everybody seems to like.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then he says, we'll ask, raise the face, so as well, okay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: How's it going to watch AEW if you have just you have just mouth, but that also look no one's showing up to see them either.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So nobody's over in AEW like those crowds are doing the link to.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You don't speak for me, by the way, I'm doing an AEW Dynasty Potio on Sunday for my kid, media with Kevin Ely, who used to do the boom with James McDaniel.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He is returning from semi-retirement this weekend to talk the show with me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Steven won't be nowhere near the height of the weekend nor I'll watch the show, but I will have be watching it with big Dave Meltzer, and then I'll be coming back to talk about the show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm kind of excited for that show.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm glad you're excited.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I am.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I really am, but we're here all so much.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's the same in any sport.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, okay, except this isn't a this isn't a sport and you can manipulate the outcome so that your interior audience is more interesting is meant more interested it says so let's see what else we have we How about we talk about the baby face and heel dynamic of will offer a united empire in this next map well what we get yeah and and we're going to get to Kalman some of more of these comments Nick Reeves your in just a moment so

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[SPEAKER_02]: After this, we had the return of Will Osprey.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And this was an interesting comment that you had Jeremy here.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Great O'Con, Henare and Will Osprey faced.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Taiichi, Elvis, Prado, and Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu

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[SPEAKER_01]: uh... the will offer if you've got to start finally we've seen that crowd told you he was a star in a way that no one else on that card uh... came off as finally we are seeing a wrestling star i i i saw that reaction he went to every corner they did the off-spray off-spray they did it better than they did on eight you do you die to my

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[SPEAKER_01]: When the AEW Dynamite did his offspray offspray, it wasn't nearly as crisp and just on point.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This crowd here tonight, this guy, this guy was a star among the promotion.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I feel bad saying that when you got you on the other side and you got Yoda in the main event, but I can't, I can't lie about what I saw right there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So we had this one, I mentioned the pop for Will.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Taichi and Will was great.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Taichi was taking up for the regulars, versus the people who leave the company or work part time.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He said it in his post-match comments, and say, what about the people that are here all the time?

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[SPEAKER_02]: This guy goes and leaves, and we celebrate him.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, playing that role, taking up for the people that are there all the time, will look terrific.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I know he said matches before.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This was not his first match back.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I need his first by a back in New Japan, but he's been wrestling on AEW programming.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Look fabulous.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Look like he was a shape.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's just remarkable that this guy had next surgery six months ago and he's looking like this out there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Asked cutter, hidden blame, stormbreaker, wanted and victorious and afterwards, Great O'Conan and all right, beat down L. Desperado.

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[SPEAKER_02]: with will protesting a little bit wondering hey what are we doing here we don't need to be doing all this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They also beat down you you way more through him out of the ring like he was trash so there's uh it just cracks me up that you you he was a complete non entity here and he took a beat down and then the last guy he tangled with was Togi Makabe remember how that happened at court at home and he got pinned by Harley Hartley Jackson so Hartley Jackson

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, sure.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's the future.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you use the future.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, you're good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, my Lord.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So look, I get it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, Wolf, you didn't go to HE if the guy that will could beat and it does not matter in any way, shape or form and feuding him with Julia is a match at neither one of those guys should be losing right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Better to just kind of kick him off to the side and try and do something different there, but

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[SPEAKER_01]: The often don't help you yet in light of like the last couple of weeks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So she's kind of like, they had great chemistry in the ring together though.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I want to.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to make clear that you and Will in the ring were the good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I enjoyed it tremendously.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Will did a lot at a moment where he wasn't an arm lock and he put his other hand on the rope and the speed in which he flipped

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[SPEAKER_01]: over like he suffered so to himself.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, my god, you had neat net surgery, you know, just months ago and I don't know if you're people or the newer listening or anything like that, but I was talking with Dave Meltzer about this yesterday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: My wife had bat surgery.

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[SPEAKER_01]: literally the same week that we'll offspray had back surgery back in August, but she had it in her lumbar region, and he had it up in like the in the cervical area, up near its neck.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And

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[SPEAKER_01]: Her surgery was outpatient, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like we took her in at like five a.m. in the morning and she was home by 11 and she was recuperating and she was fine with him like a month and by PT and everything and she totally fine now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and she's not pro wrestling, but she's got pain in her life and all these things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, she's not living the, she's not living the high life and all this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, I remember telling you this, Dave, and I was just like, is it possible that the outpatient surgery for the herniated disc are such a disguide can come back?

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[SPEAKER_01]: and is it that or is it did he come back to early and are we just going to be afraid that the wheels are going to fall off at any given time?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I watch him and I'm like, I'm not sure the wheels are going to fall off, but he is smaller and he doesn't have the muscle mass, but he is moving like the way he did when he was a junior.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I enjoyed the match.

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[SPEAKER_02]: First of all, I thought it was

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[SPEAKER_02]: Jordan from Canada mentions an aspirin calmer sitting some great story telling beats there were a couple of them here in this match that we're going to get to turn also mentions this he said the chant started in New Japan for will that asked for a aspirin thing he's right that did start in New Japan it's his first back match in NJPW and he is a star of the chance maybe louder with different crowds well yeah they were all about it here they were definitely all about it here and that did begin in New Japan you're absolutely right so uh that

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm saying it's like, there is no lack of familiarity with that reaction for Osprey and that song when he's out there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're trained for that, well, just like they're trained for Judas, just like they're trained for, or in the Cassidy song, and all these things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, the pedigree is there for them, no pun intended.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The pedigree is there for them to be knowledgeable.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All I'm saying is when it happened at Sikara Genesis, that was Chris, but that was,

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[SPEAKER_02]: So will was protesting these post-match beatouts and we don't need to do that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We won the match.

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[SPEAKER_02]: What are we doing here?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And O'Conan and RA were like, well, that's the way we do things now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And will seem a little put off by that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Didn't like that so much.

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[SPEAKER_02]: did not go all in on it, didn't have to happen all the once, but seeds planted, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And yes, it worked.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I enjoyed that, too, of Will just kind of being like, and this isn't really the United Empire I created, and the guys were saying like, you're, no, you know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's the funny part, isn't it?

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's exactly the Empire Will created.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm kind of, what he did to, like, quit, it's fate, quit, it's fate.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, that's when the United Empire liked you out, and he went, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it, we're all like that, but, yes, you are.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I, that's what I'm saying is I think that's going to be thrown back in a spray space.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like you brought great O'Con in to beat up Kazuchko Katas.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You could win the world title.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I think that's going to get put back in space.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's the whole thing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I think that's I thought it was an interesting storyline beat as well.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm a great bunch of this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He said, yeah, by the way, you I don't chill.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, yeah, but he said, I'm marginally happy about them trying something new and pushing a young guy until I remember the most of the domestic new generation are pushing 30 or over 30.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And all but one, we're still waiting to break through.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He said, I was watching these guys as young lions, so that day to go when the company was booming.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I don't feel like I've been rewarded for following their journey.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And when you see you, you mora just kind of dismissed out of this match like trash.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You can see why he would feel that way.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And, uh, yeah, bacon mentioned, you know, yeah, bacon, hey, bacon, good to see you.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He says, I remember that Oscar or to be priestly, wherever he did that, uh, he did that to his girlfriend at the time to put over what a, what a, what a bastard he was.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So it's all going to come full circle folks.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's all on the way.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's, he's going to get what's coming to him in a, uh, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a,

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[SPEAKER_02]: Because afterwards, we even mentioned with these two guys, we're going to go after the never open weight six man titles and their schedule for a match for the never open weight six man titles, which is going to be much better than any house of torture version of a never open weight six man match.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I said the six man titles are never going to be the most important thing in New Japan.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They shouldn't be.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's an underneath title, but at least some matches could be good and Bishop on and Bolton versus D3, that's going to be real good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I am really surprised that how much will I'll spray in New Japan right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I really just like he is just put the pedal, the foot on the pedal and he is just going hard as long as he can, making up for whatever lost time that he has, whatever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not complaining about it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think the direction for United Empire are intriguing and you know, putting an RA in with U.S.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm.

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[SPEAKER_02]: After that, we did have the never open man six man title match.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This is the hot dog match on the show.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was even acknowledged as such by Chris Charlton, how many people got up out of their seats and left.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They're in Bishaman and Oleg Bolton against Cheisoan's Renderita and Yuzuro Takahashi.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was a strong win, at least, for Goro Yoshihashi and Bolton.

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[SPEAKER_02]: House of torture cheated enough to kind of tease the switch, but the hit show to on usual and one.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And the interesting trivia note here, Jeremy, is if Bolton defeats Ren Nareta, he will hold all of the openweight titles in New Japan.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He has the strong title, the strong openweight.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He has the never openweight six man titles now, and he's going after the never openweight title.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's tied over so weird that I literally don't know what they're going to do with it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like they could do that with Bowden, and it would still not matter in any way, shape or form.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It would just be an interesting trivia note, and he could move one of them like the next week, and we'd all just be like, well, that was fun while it lasted, or they could just keep it, and rendering it just moves on and loses it to Aaron Wolfe at Domington, which

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[SPEAKER_01]: feels like probably what would happen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But you know, I like that they're giving Bolton Oleg a little bit of love here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yoshi Hawkey does feel like the one left out of the dance more often than not with go to go to getting the revolution, Bolton being like the powerhouse, and then you got Yoshi Hawkey.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I guess better to be Yoshi Hawkey than Chaco into this case.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Now, in Jeremy or S, I'm sorry if I asked him any questions, but I was confused by a lot of the show.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We kind of are too, Jeremy, and he asked earlier, like, why aren't they just pushing anybody?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And it does seem like they just don't have the spine right now to get behind anybody.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And they're just wish he was.

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[SPEAKER_02]: on it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I theorized that they don't want a baby face over there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, there's one guy there that might not want a baby face over too much for ego purposes could be it, but it does seem like they're a little bit spindless in terms of just getting behind somebody.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't have a bad rock or construction.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And New Japan world television title match was next.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We got an appetizer, Jeremy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I thought of this as an appetizer.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was a 15-minute draw between

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[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like this is going to be allowed to breathe more later in a big setting with a longer time limit.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It could be the G1.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It could be

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[SPEAKER_02]: at another point, but I enjoyed the 15 minutes that they wrestled.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And Takeshda is starting to get frustrated that he hasn't beaten Umano yet one on one.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Remember, Umano got the win.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The upset win in the G1 last year, now Takeshda tries to take him down and can't quite within 15 minutes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I would be all in favor of them going 30 in the G1 and having that trip up the guys as far as their scores go if they just have it that to catch a can't quite beat him for whatever reason it's a bad matchup for him.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think that's fine.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I'll match

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, something like that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, we got a guy in a weird white mask came out to distract to catch a after this was over with.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So they have the match 15 minute draw.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's a retention for Takeshita.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And while Takeshita is staring at this guy in a white mask, Chase Owens attacks Kenosuke Takeshita to give us the match.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We've all been dying to see for the title

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[SPEAKER_02]: Chase Owens and Kenosuke to catch the jammy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I have it again.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's just talk about how weird the decisions are lately.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You have Kenosuke to catch those clearly.

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[SPEAKER_02]: One of the better workers, one of the more charismatic guys out there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You give him the TV title.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You have him beat

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[SPEAKER_01]: former IWGP champion Kuroki Takashiro with a TV title.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Look at least we can have at least we can have good matches, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Two of his first three are against Yuturo Takahashi and Chase Owens.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This is how you use Kano's work.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Great king.

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[SPEAKER_02]: what a waste.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But anyway, well, and I think of other new Japan disappointments that may have been senata under that mask, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, who the hell was under the mask we fight out later?

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[SPEAKER_02]: The guy that was under the mask, it's symbol hall might not be the guy who's under the mask.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Ultimately, you know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't think it was good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I could be, but I kind of thought it might have been

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, just fucking with Takeshita because there's, you know, he didn't win the match, you know, like he's not, he's not doing, he lost the title, you know, there's kind of like, maybe well, maybe you're not the good to, you are and just doing, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There were a part of me that thought it could have been Rocky Romero, just kind of, if it's not somebody obvious, kind of somebody, you know, somebody fucking with Takeshita.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But health torture wouldn't put on a mask, you know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like that's not, that's not their style.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It feels like something a little bit more personal that it's going after Takeshita.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The other thing that I'll mention is that around February when Takeshita was feuding with ELP.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, they're gonna go to a draw or something.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then they're gonna become friends.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, his question that needs a friend in New Japan and lo and behold, it didn't happen to the L.P.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But it happened to show to Umano.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He has a friend and showed to Umano, show to Umano, who's pivoted from you, you, you, you mora, with a meme of like, you, you, you mora was my best friend.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, Kono, get your question.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's my new best friend.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, that's where we're at right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's fine if it's fine, you know, show to really doesn't have a pathway to anything

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[SPEAKER_02]: War hero mentions by the way he doesn't have the strong tag belts those are in Mexico.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, there you go.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So Bolton doesn't have those.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's true.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Brad, you man, he's got your number today.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm sure you have something you're not a heal.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He says he'll think he's been over he's a heal no comment and he said I didn't love to catch to hear he's almost lost a bit of a zoro between New Japan AEW and DDT He's so sure to look great on the other hand.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's the kid is really heating up right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's wrestling well, but a lot of guys are wrestling well I think what I would say to Brad it's that we're starting to see the Takeshina match more and more like

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[SPEAKER_01]: to get you to almost have a formula to how he does these things and he's got his secret to moves near the way to the end of the match that he's waiting to hit it and there are dynamic things throughout the match, but in a 15 minute kind of thing and the secret

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[SPEAKER_01]: He hasn't really been able to cut loose at that level and there are stuff happening in AEW that makes me think that That's going to be great and if the defending champion of the G1 I think he's going to have some matches where he's going to put through a face is but He's probably one of the hardest working wrestlers any might

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, a little burnt out based off of everything that he's doing and all the promotions that he's working at and you know, when he's not the focus of attention, he can just kind of have his matches and do a thing and even when he's just having a match, he's really, really good, but he is not wrestling like he was the Takeshida of 2024 and early 2025, where he was just like this guy is unstoppable.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And Jordan for Canada mentions their great athletes and yes, the both of these guys are a great athletes turn is asking what exactly is chase the crown jewel of well, he's not the crown jewel anymore, he's the lone star outlaw now he's got a new song.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I'm still around you all of the bullet club, but now if the crown jewel of.

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[SPEAKER_02]: South East breath like I'm still not sure if he's in on the joke or not.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like I like that when I hear that song, I was like, does he think that's good or is the point that it's supposed to be bad?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I can't tell with with Chase.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe he thinks it's good, but and he also says to catch the similar to ECE and he has a style you could break down, but it hits every time when given the time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Give me a groove at that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So that's that's TV title match on.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We go.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There's another TV title match to come.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's against Chase.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, once now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And a title

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[SPEAKER_02]: You don't ice an Oscar against Zach Saber, Jr. and Rio, hey, what?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Now we're talking, this match was great.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So we went 22 minutes and 33 seconds.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Zach did a wonderful job putting over Oscar's power and then he tied Oscar into absolute knots for a really entertaining sequence where Oscar was fighting for his life in various,

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[SPEAKER_02]: uh... submission holds and and various other ways of uh... being tortured uh... we will honed in on you know i says elbow i sold that very very well to the point that even got chance from the crowd for his perseverance uh... just really everybody worked well together this was terrific great battle down the stretch i sent it up hitting the running knee and he pinned oeva i did not think they would beat oeva yet again

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I'm not going to complain about keeping the KOB in place as the tag team champions.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's one of the most interesting acts in the entire company.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so I love the match and well, I was surprised that they held onto the titles, because I just didn't think they would beat OEW and Zack.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Again, I am not disappointed at all, and Oscar and Ice are the truth.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This is an outstanding tag team.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And sure, a lot of people are going to have a good match with Rio, we wouldn't Zack, say Virginia, but, man, Ice's charisma is just crazy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He had those people eating out of the palm of his hand as he was selling his elbow.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'll tell you what, Oscar and Zack, Oscar wasn't, he was being carried by that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He can hang.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He wasn't, it was not dead weight.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The guy's a talented talented kid and he was active.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He was active.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like he literally went through the British pro wrestling scene.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, he worked in New Japan.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He did all the same thing to the tactic.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And when it came time to go one on one with that, he could hang.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, this was fantastic.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And afterwards, a utilize called out Bishaman.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So this is a team that we want to face again.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But Hinaria and Ocon came out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And Hinaria and Ocon said we want next.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So ice and Oscar actually did the logical thing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Instead of having a three way, which no champion should ever, ever ask for, even though it happens constantly, they did the correct thing, the smart thing, the actual logical thing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And said, why don't you guys just fight it out?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then the winner faces us.

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[SPEAKER_02]: we'll take on whoever wins.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I like that part, too.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So overall, this whole half-hour segment of this show was very enjoyable to me.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It made sense.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The two teams that came out and are in O'Con, be shaman perfectly good contenders.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Any combination of these three teams would be an entertaining match on all four.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Here we go, we got, we got something good out of this one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This was a fast-paced psychological and completely entertaining match in which every single one of the four men brought it and was able to match the energy and the skill of the guy that they were against the ring with.

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[SPEAKER_01]: With that said,

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[SPEAKER_01]: There was you know I in this match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And when he and I were in the ring and I we were targeted his left elbow, I think it was his left elbow.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, it was his left elbow.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's the correct one.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The correct one.

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[SPEAKER_02]: If nothing's hurt, you work the left side.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the

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[SPEAKER_01]: fire up from Udo as he powered through the pain that he was suffering from this elbow as he jammed it against the turn buckle in order to get it right so that you can continue to fight against OEWA was the second biggest reaction of the entire show behind all sprays chain like

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[SPEAKER_01]: this guy had come in for everybody and you got to get out of the fucking way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I don't mean this in any other way of like he's going to eat everybody who wants you on the roster.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If he keeps going at the rate, he is undeniable, just unbelievable.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The way that he got that crowd to fire up with him as he powered up and persevered, again, so we were

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[SPEAKER_01]: They were the baby faces.

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[SPEAKER_01]: TMDK were the heels in this match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, if somebody were to like, go back, sit, bunk for now and say, yeah, KLB or give me position, if these, you know, the baby faces that crowd just absolutely loves, I'm not sure everyone would have thought that was the correct play, but here we are.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And when you need somebody to cheer for, here we go, KLB or your top baby faces.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what they said.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what they're telling me right now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And lo and behold, they came through.

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[SPEAKER_02]: go right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So Brad has a question to either of you get in on buying the KDA knockout brothers acrylic finger they're selling with ice spinning around Oscar.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm so tempted to get one and now I am too Brad.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I know what you just put that maybe this is what I need in my life.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, I don't have one at this point.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I will be honest, I probably spent a little bit too much money right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I have got to crawl back a little bit of the

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[SPEAKER_01]: let some of these little pre-orders and books and just kind of, you know, pay those down, pay for my trip to the G1.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But now that you've mentioned it, I'm definitely going to check it out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I did buy a little Hiroshi Tana-Hashi thing that they advertised back in January for the New Japan Tocan Global Shop.

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[SPEAKER_01]: For like $20 if you go, I go a little desk or a bit of Hiroshi Tana-Hashi and, you know, I got my little Hiroshi Tana-Hashi acrylic little plane here from his thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I got a few things here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not, I'm not opposed to the little Nick Nack or they do dad with the various amounts of crap that I have.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was being including my storage boxes of NERDA work.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The accessories to all the action figures that I have carefully organized in what a little plastic David because

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[SPEAKER_01]: if you don't keep tracking them, they're all just going to, they're all just going to get all the place.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so the guy worked very early on as I decided to enter this small hobby.

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[SPEAKER_01]: As my pro wrestling hobby started to become a little bit more like work.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, Nick really just said, I was a little bit annoyed that OE was lost again, too, but I'm not going to be upset that they're totally running with the top act and protecting them against such quality opponents at every turn.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, exactly.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's how you get people over them.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They win and you get behind them and you show people that they will indeed come through for it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And Brad mentions OE was has to be going over ice and the G1 at this point.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Those dudes have some insane chemistry and I think they're going to be some cataclysmic matchup to that G1 that's here.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think I think Brad's really onto something there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think that this will pay off eventually for OEA in a non-tag team title situation.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, I think that's going to happen.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And Brad also mentions you want NJPW's top face to the company.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's UDOS.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's bomb like that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And Jeremy Orce, as he could be another nighto, just that kind of obviously very different wrestlers and very different personalities, but that anti-authoritarian thing, that it does strike a core.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It does strike a core.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so that was happy times.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That was good half hour of that program.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then we had the IWGP heavyweight title match.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Calum Newman with Will Osprey and his corner and the rest of United Empire over the rail there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But St. J. will get involved facing Yota Suji.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We'll just add Dahi Keen to guide with them.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, 24 minutes, 17 seconds.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I told everybody last week.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Watch out for this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I could smell it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They cut off Yoda Suji Eponeys to plague the New Japan's favorite game pinned the title on the white guy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And it is absolutely the game that they play every few years.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They did it with AJ.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They did it with Kenny.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They did it with Nick Nemeth.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They did it with John Moxley.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Pin the title on the white guy, their favorite game.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And here it was again.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We have Calam Newman out here, Osprey came out with him.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I mentioned that the rest of him went behind the barricades.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Osprey was the only one that was in his corner.

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[SPEAKER_02]: uh... yeah i mentioned moxley vanken yeah he did that with him to uh... mat riddle another uh... in the tail on the white guy guy as they went into the match Chris charlton set us all up for by mentioning all of the things that calumnumman was the youngest ever to do just getting us prepared to break shinskain akamora's record uh... newman tried a uh... asker and an ended in disaster

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[SPEAKER_02]: He almost got his neck broken there and so that was the whole story that he tried to do it Will's way at a backfire.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So Suji was cruising for a win when he accidentally curbs stopped red shoes And that took the referee out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, then the dramatics happened Zane J wanted to give Kalm Newman a chair, which we've seen several times But Will stopped him saying you don't need to do this you can do this the right way Newman looked pretty skeptical all that but he went with it

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[SPEAKER_02]: Then there was a gene blast with absolutely no referee.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And that's when you knew that you had a surgery was losing this match.

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[SPEAKER_02]: When they gave him that visual pinfall, but the big move exchange down the stretch was great between these two.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Calenumans, a talented guy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You had a surgery, a talented guy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So this was good going down the stretch.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Eventually though, Newman hit a low blow and then hit make way.

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[SPEAKER_02]: His new finisher, it's a bigger deal than the princess curse, more of a kill shot than even the princess curse, or X calibre as make way.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And he got the win.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Will ended up putting the belts on Calum Newman.

01:00:01.592 --> 01:00:04.276
[SPEAKER_02]: We have a new IWGP World Heavyweight Champion.

01:00:04.316 --> 01:00:05.058
[SPEAKER_02]: He's Calum Newman.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's 23 years old.

01:00:06.920 --> 01:00:14.853
[SPEAKER_02]: And first, before we get into what happened after the match, because there were some further developments, what did you think of this match?

01:00:15.093 --> 01:00:16.395
[SPEAKER_02]: What did you think of the title change?

01:00:16.435 --> 01:00:21.443
[SPEAKER_02]: Your thoughts on this Jeremy before we get into all of the superfluous action afterwards.

01:00:22.199 --> 01:00:25.964
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, and I'm not going to put anybody on blast here.

01:00:26.004 --> 01:00:28.788
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, actually, I am out of put my Gilbert on blast here.

01:00:29.189 --> 01:00:33.034
[SPEAKER_01]: I had to work that day and it'll go to the hardest day of work I'd had in the entire year.

01:00:33.094 --> 01:00:36.178
[SPEAKER_01]: And so I kept myself full of freaking.

01:00:36.198 --> 01:00:38.862
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to come home on Saturday and to watch this thing.

01:00:39.623 --> 01:00:50.097
[SPEAKER_01]: And, uh, huge band did their whole, like, this guy won.

01:00:50.684 --> 01:00:58.338
[SPEAKER_01]: And then I get the notification from Brad, who saw the post from Mike Gilbert about cow and winning.

01:00:58.398 --> 01:01:03.166
[SPEAKER_01]: And he had a very recent tweet about the whole day.

01:01:03.307 --> 01:01:05.030
[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't have any hard feelings about this.

01:01:05.611 --> 01:01:13.104
[SPEAKER_01]: But I found out that Yoda foods he had lost the title basically through social media in the middle of like 20 different other things going on.

01:01:13.505 --> 01:01:15.308
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, oh, well,

01:01:15.288 --> 01:01:31.866
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, well, you know, and so my process for it was just kind of like, okay, I was thinking about why they would do it before I ever watched it, and I generally came to the conclusion, like, all right, I'm fine with it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, if you had a room, if you ever watched, uh, top gear, uh, you don't have talked about that.

01:01:43.604 --> 01:01:44.626
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I'm talking about?

01:01:45.147 --> 01:02:02.878
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, so there's a clip of Clarkson and he's outside of these two hatchback cars and he's looking at one and he's just like this is brilliant.

01:02:03.112 --> 01:02:06.958
[SPEAKER_01]: And this is what a, and the comparison is like Yoda Fuji.

01:02:07.358 --> 01:02:09.301
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, you could get out like this is brilliant.

01:02:09.321 --> 01:02:12.546
[SPEAKER_01]: And the point to this was like, but I like this one.

01:02:12.566 --> 01:02:14.469
[SPEAKER_01]: And that is what New Japan is right now.

01:02:14.489 --> 01:02:16.172
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like they've got Yoda Fuji.

01:02:16.472 --> 01:02:19.737
[SPEAKER_01]: This great car that they're like,

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is a brilliant like this guy could be the guy and then he's like, but I really like this one.

01:02:25.488 --> 01:02:27.231
[SPEAKER_01]: And, and Calvin Newman.

01:02:27.913 --> 01:02:31.820
[SPEAKER_01]: And if a good car, he, he, there's plenty of gas in the tank.

01:02:31.840 --> 01:02:32.802
[SPEAKER_01]: The engine is great.

01:02:33.103 --> 01:02:34.886
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it get an age great.

01:02:35.247 --> 01:02:36.389
[SPEAKER_01]: The car is fantastic.

01:02:36.850 --> 01:02:40.497
[SPEAKER_01]: But it's not the car for now except they chose that car.

01:02:41.779 --> 01:02:42.180
[SPEAKER_01]: And.

01:02:43.915 --> 01:02:44.996
[SPEAKER_01]: I wish they had it.

01:02:46.017 --> 01:02:53.286
[SPEAKER_01]: I wish that they would have done a different approach, but they have a plan with Calumnum and will offer it.

01:02:54.247 --> 01:03:02.377
[SPEAKER_01]: And for whatever reason, they think that this is the most important plan that they have of everything going on with New Japan pro wrestling.

01:03:02.397 --> 01:03:07.623
[SPEAKER_01]: They need to set the groundwork for this at the cost of everything else and everyone else going on.

01:03:09.665 --> 01:03:11.087
[SPEAKER_01]: Do you like that?

01:03:13.598 --> 01:03:29.247
[SPEAKER_01]: Do I understand that we'll offer a somebody that can get people to watch NutriPan pro wrestling and hopefully get the rest of the roster over on the girth of him being present and involved in the Bidding angle?

01:03:29.948 --> 01:03:32.653
[SPEAKER_01]: I can see it, like I can see the logic here.

01:03:33.697 --> 01:03:54.284
[SPEAKER_01]: But your concern about attendance, about creating the homegrown roster, about making sure that the people who are paying tickets for the road to shows, for everything waiting up to the big show, everything hitting, that those seats are getting filled, this doesn't accomplish that.

01:03:54.965 --> 01:03:57.028
[SPEAKER_01]: This doesn't serve that purpose.

01:03:57.048 --> 01:03:59.451
[SPEAKER_01]: This is bigger picture,

01:03:59.566 --> 01:04:07.031
[SPEAKER_01]: bigger viewership, but if they're returning on a new fan world and seeing empty seats all on the show getting ready to hype up for the big show.

01:04:09.500 --> 01:04:12.630
[SPEAKER_01]: You're cutting off your nose just like your face and so.

01:04:13.977 --> 01:04:20.463
[SPEAKER_01]: I am cautiously optimistic that they can make this run with Kalamu and work.

01:04:20.723 --> 01:04:22.585
[SPEAKER_01]: Because I look at him, I see it.

01:04:23.245 --> 01:04:43.984
[SPEAKER_01]: I see what they see in him and I'm willing to sit back and say, I'm gonna watch this and I hope that he succeeds because he is one of those talams that if 100% going to be part of the future and if he succeeds he's gone in three years.

01:04:43.964 --> 01:05:06.462
[SPEAKER_01]: Either one doesn't really make me happy because I want the guys that are going to be there for the next 10 years being the ones they're building the promotion erect and so that's the conflict that I find myself in in that.

01:05:07.184 --> 01:05:15.976
[SPEAKER_01]: It will be a choice to put the belt on Calum now if he is there to get the rest of the three guys over for the next three years great perfect.

01:05:16.297 --> 01:05:17.802
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's go now.

01:05:18.136 --> 01:05:22.504
[SPEAKER_01]: do not wait nine months for all of this to come into play.

01:05:23.064 --> 01:05:27.712
[SPEAKER_01]: After he's, you know, gotten over by beating Will.

01:05:28.253 --> 01:05:30.497
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, those guys should be beating Will.

01:05:30.517 --> 01:05:31.860
[SPEAKER_01]: Yoda should be beating Will.

01:05:32.280 --> 01:05:33.482
[SPEAKER_01]: You guys should be beating Will.

01:05:33.583 --> 01:05:35.045
[SPEAKER_01]: Showed us should be beating Will.

01:05:35.065 --> 01:05:37.189
[SPEAKER_01]: Calam and Will, that's great.

01:05:37.690 --> 01:05:42.017
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm glad Calam is gonna probably beat Will and be cemented at that guy.

01:05:42.503 --> 01:05:45.126
[SPEAKER_01]: but he's not the guy to build the promotion around.

01:05:45.666 --> 01:05:59.920
[SPEAKER_01]: And if he's going to be the guy to get the guy to build fine, but it's been so long, it has been years in which we've just been waiting for the next start and start and the left turns.

01:06:00.461 --> 01:06:02.583
[SPEAKER_01]: And we're back to a square one.

01:06:02.803 --> 01:06:04.865
[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like we're back to square one all over again.

01:06:04.905 --> 01:06:12.493
[SPEAKER_01]: And we're just like we're resetting the level and making it so that can even playing field

01:06:13.688 --> 01:06:15.913
[SPEAKER_01]: Yoda Fuji should just be the guy.

01:06:15.953 --> 01:06:18.518
[SPEAKER_01]: Like Yoda Fuji should have carved through United Empire.

01:06:18.879 --> 01:06:20.722
[SPEAKER_01]: We should have created a new faction.

01:06:21.163 --> 01:06:26.214
[SPEAKER_01]: You should have been brave with some of the people of the roster who've been stacked at baby faces and make them heal.

01:06:26.755 --> 01:06:32.727
[SPEAKER_01]: Calonumin, I'm going to be behind him.

01:06:32.875 --> 01:06:45.969
[SPEAKER_01]: But I have to be honest in saying that this is not the direction that I wish that they would have gone, but I believe that it is a viable direction that they can be successful with, though it is fraught with peril.

01:06:47.951 --> 01:06:52.776
[SPEAKER_02]: There are so many better ways they could have gone here and still had Kalam Newman in the mix.

01:06:52.796 --> 01:06:55.579
[SPEAKER_02]: I believe the same thing you do, I think he is a talented guy.

01:06:55.639 --> 01:06:58.342
[SPEAKER_02]: I think he is a possible top foreign hero.

01:06:58.362 --> 01:06:59.323
[SPEAKER_02]: He'll come in.

01:06:59.343 --> 01:07:02.106
[SPEAKER_02]: But to cut Suji off right here,

01:07:02.963 --> 01:07:05.566
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, you had it any for us to get to here, Colin and Jeremy.

01:07:05.586 --> 01:07:09.291
[SPEAKER_02]: He said, poor Suji, I'm going to need one who do explain why they took the belt off.

01:07:09.311 --> 01:07:09.871
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm so soon.

01:07:10.292 --> 01:07:12.695
[SPEAKER_02]: Jeremy, are we surprised?

01:07:12.975 --> 01:07:14.337
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought they would wait a while.

01:07:14.437 --> 01:07:15.738
[SPEAKER_02]: What does this mean for Suji?

01:07:16.379 --> 01:07:23.268
[SPEAKER_02]: And then, you know, that's basically what everybody's wondering is like, why would they cut off, you know, Suji so quickly?

01:07:23.288 --> 01:07:28.874
[SPEAKER_02]: He had that triumph at Wrestle Kingdom and he looked like the guy and now barely into April.

01:07:29.435 --> 01:07:31.958
[SPEAKER_02]: It's over with already.

01:07:32.883 --> 01:07:39.253
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, which is about that is fine, but it's not the world title and it doesn't it doesn't make you the guy like the world title does.

01:07:39.373 --> 01:07:45.984
[SPEAKER_02]: And the thing that I keep saying is they just seem gutless when it comes to just getting behind somebody.

01:07:46.104 --> 01:07:51.853
[SPEAKER_02]: I think they wanted to reward Kalam Newman for signing that three year deal.

01:07:53.133 --> 01:07:55.997
[SPEAKER_02]: But I am mystified as to what this is going to lead to.

01:07:56.017 --> 01:07:58.221
[SPEAKER_02]: And so I'm trying to project out, right, Jeremy?

01:07:59.563 --> 01:08:01.525
[SPEAKER_02]: Dominion is a big deal this year.

01:08:02.267 --> 01:08:04.931
[SPEAKER_02]: It's on national television, just like Russell Kingdom was.

01:08:05.692 --> 01:08:09.938
[SPEAKER_02]: So everything should be in service of setting up something interesting for that, right?

01:08:09.978 --> 01:08:11.981
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, what is that going to be?

01:08:12.301 --> 01:08:14.685
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, Suji,

01:08:15.728 --> 01:08:22.837
[SPEAKER_02]: was in one of the featured matches, so that the featured matches at WrestleMania Kingdom were the Tonahashi O'Cotta match, of course.

01:08:22.977 --> 01:08:26.401
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what drew the house, saying Tonahashi's retirement match.

01:08:27.502 --> 01:08:35.011
[SPEAKER_02]: Suji versus Takeshita, which was a great match and crowned a new champion, a new guy who won the New Japan way, all right?

01:08:35.192 --> 01:08:35.852
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I'm down.

01:08:36.313 --> 01:08:39.317
[SPEAKER_02]: And then they showed a lot of the women's match and then highlights of everything else.

01:08:39.757 --> 01:08:42.641
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, you don't have a five hour block to put the whole show.

01:08:43.121 --> 01:08:43.862
[SPEAKER_02]: Dominion.

01:08:44.467 --> 01:08:45.930
[SPEAKER_02]: What's going to be the feature now?

01:08:46.692 --> 01:08:50.981
[SPEAKER_02]: A foreign champion and Suji going after him again in a rematch?

01:08:51.402 --> 01:08:53.547
[SPEAKER_02]: Perhaps maybe that's it.

01:08:54.369 --> 01:09:01.444
[SPEAKER_02]: But putting a foreign champion on what is that tell the casual fans about Yoda Suji other than that?

01:09:01.665 --> 01:09:04.551
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, he's failed since the last time we saw him.

01:09:04.767 --> 01:09:09.927
[SPEAKER_01]: And then what's the other man who had Yoda so do you lose that match on vingin if it's on astral television.

01:09:10.348 --> 01:09:14.404
[SPEAKER_02]: No, but, but, and then the other you think that they're considering it.

01:09:14.464 --> 01:09:16.110
[SPEAKER_02]: Wait, no, hold on, hold on.

01:09:16.664 --> 01:09:18.347
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what they're considering.

01:09:18.387 --> 01:09:20.932
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm lost as to what they think they want to do with these guys.

01:09:21.413 --> 01:09:23.377
[SPEAKER_02]: And then the other part of it is, right?

01:09:23.877 --> 01:09:29.468
[SPEAKER_02]: It is all set up for Rennery to defend the never open way title against Aaron Wolf, probably a Dominion, right?

01:09:29.508 --> 01:09:30.851
[SPEAKER_02]: That's where the tea leaves to show it.

01:09:31.512 --> 01:09:33.836
[SPEAKER_02]: We just told that same story.

01:09:33.916 --> 01:09:40.208
[SPEAKER_02]: So is the story Yoda Suji challenging for the world title and Aaron Wolf challenging for the never title?

01:09:40.188 --> 01:09:45.035
[SPEAKER_02]: He was another featured match by the way on national TV from the against evil, right?

01:09:45.435 --> 01:09:49.300
[SPEAKER_02]: Are we doing the exact same thing for the Dominion?

01:09:49.380 --> 01:09:54.207
[SPEAKER_02]: The exact same stories with the same two guys going at the same two titles?

01:09:54.427 --> 01:09:57.251
[SPEAKER_02]: The only thing you're telling everybody is they failed since the last time.

01:09:57.892 --> 01:10:01.257
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just way better than a big show to the year.

01:10:01.998 --> 01:10:04.241
[SPEAKER_02]: And then Jeremy is saying, why Newman now?

01:10:04.281 --> 01:10:07.545
[SPEAKER_02]: Why I think is he signed a three-year contract and they don't think he's going to leave?

01:10:08.048 --> 01:10:11.954
[SPEAKER_02]: But that doesn't explain why they want to cut Suji off at the legs.

01:10:12.074 --> 01:10:13.837
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's why I don't know.

01:10:13.978 --> 01:10:29.803
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's a bad decision I think they screwed up again, but I think they've been screwing up with these guys over and over this entire generation and I don't get Suji if he beats Newman you already have a direction for Newman which is being mad at Osprey

01:10:29.783 --> 01:10:31.486
[SPEAKER_02]: Say he loses that match, right?

01:10:32.047 --> 01:10:35.334
[SPEAKER_02]: Then he can come at Will and so I tried an Oscar and almost got myself killed.

01:10:35.655 --> 01:10:37.438
[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't use the chair and I lost.

01:10:37.538 --> 01:10:44.933
[SPEAKER_02]: What, what, doing it your way is failing me and he, it doesn't have to happen that night, but that can lead to that feud.

01:10:46.316 --> 01:10:50.003
[SPEAKER_02]: And then as soon as you can go off, Suji versus Shingo Takagi,

01:10:50.202 --> 01:11:20.023
[SPEAKER_02]: would be a heck of a dominion main event actually a dominion main event do something else in the meantime right and then you could have the faction mates the guys that respect each other had been working out together and have been training partners forever but now single once his shot he's he's got a new wife he's he wants the title he wants it all now now he has a family now he has a mission he has a faction now he wants the belt the only thing missing

01:11:20.003 --> 01:11:22.627
[SPEAKER_02]: That's an interesting story for dominion that they could have told.

01:11:23.388 --> 01:11:25.851
[SPEAKER_02]: And instead, what are we going to get?

01:11:25.931 --> 01:11:27.053
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm puzzled too.

01:11:28.154 --> 01:11:40.892
[SPEAKER_02]: So basically, I'm trying to come up with an answer for you guys, why they would cut off Suji, except it's New Japan, and they're booking their company poorly right now.

01:11:41.292 --> 01:11:44.577
[SPEAKER_02]: And then I saw somebody, well, he can just win G1.

01:11:44.557 --> 01:11:46.801
[SPEAKER_02]: being sushi or way more and all that.

01:11:46.821 --> 01:11:47.682
[SPEAKER_02]: But guess what guys?

01:11:48.584 --> 01:11:52.390
[SPEAKER_02]: Just winning the G1 doesn't even make you a star anymore because look at Takeshita.

01:11:52.430 --> 01:11:54.193
[SPEAKER_02]: Takeshita won G1 last year.

01:11:54.533 --> 01:12:01.705
[SPEAKER_02]: When in the King of Pro Wrestling against Zack Saber Jr. for the world title and drew a dud of a house at

01:12:01.685 --> 01:12:24.486
[SPEAKER_02]: King of Pro Wrestling, and I know they say 5,300, it's a big crowd, but that was the worst attended KOPW ever, just winning G1 doesn't do it, and especially when they see these guys fail and fail and fail, exactly what you said, Jeremy, it's going to look like a fluke if you were more a suddenly wins one.

01:12:24.466 --> 01:12:31.514
[SPEAKER_02]: if Suji loses to Newman and then loses again in it to Gabe and we'll get to Gabe in a second Christ.

01:12:31.534 --> 01:12:40.043
[SPEAKER_02]: And if he goes into this thing and then wins, it's just going to look like, well, he accidentally stumbled half-assed into a title win or into a G1 win.

01:12:40.123 --> 01:12:41.865
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not going to look like a triumph.

01:12:42.305 --> 01:12:44.668
[SPEAKER_02]: It's going to look like somebody finally flooked into it.

01:12:45.108 --> 01:12:47.531
[SPEAKER_02]: The stopped watch being right twice a day.

01:12:48.132 --> 01:12:52.296
[SPEAKER_02]: They've got to just get behind these guys and they're just gutless wonders when it comes to them.

01:12:52.276 --> 01:13:02.494
[SPEAKER_01]: The part that I get to is that I believe in some way, shape, or form, Yoda, Soji should be in the rest of the kingdom of that, this next year.

01:13:03.636 --> 01:13:10.669
[SPEAKER_01]: What I don't want is that this entire year is a quest for him to get his title back.

01:13:10.689 --> 01:13:15.077
[SPEAKER_01]: What I need is for him to be the champion and somebody else.

01:13:15.513 --> 01:13:31.918
[SPEAKER_01]: being put over at the guy on a big show like that, rather than Yota Suji potentially getting the opportunity at Dominion, maybe another of the three gets an opportunity at Dominion, but there aren't even then built up at a point where they should even get a title shot.

01:13:31.898 --> 01:13:40.729
[SPEAKER_01]: After Yota Suji, I can't think of a baby face that is like viable for the world title picture might if maybe like to catch it.

01:13:41.049 --> 01:13:42.911
[SPEAKER_01]: Like to catch it in Calam Numan kind of thing.

01:13:43.332 --> 01:13:44.813
[SPEAKER_01]: Might be a match that they could do.

01:13:44.853 --> 01:13:46.455
[SPEAKER_01]: Deming it.

01:13:46.475 --> 01:13:53.704
[SPEAKER_01]: Like it's just one of the things that's like what a wrestle kingdom look like with Calam Numan as a champion right now.

01:13:53.768 --> 01:13:55.590
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you know, I don't think he's going to get there.

01:13:55.711 --> 01:14:00.257
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think he's going to hold it so I don't think don't and the likely if they if it's willing.

01:14:00.277 --> 01:14:00.797
[SPEAKER_01]: Calum.

01:14:01.859 --> 01:14:02.580
[SPEAKER_01]: Rucks and kingdom.

01:14:03.301 --> 01:14:08.107
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, and like Calum went and then he's just this threat for the next two years.

01:14:08.508 --> 01:14:09.549
[SPEAKER_01]: He's just this top guy.

01:14:09.569 --> 01:14:11.131
[SPEAKER_01]: You can put the title back on him at any point.

01:14:11.692 --> 01:14:14.916
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, now that you have the title, like all bets are off.

01:14:14.896 --> 01:14:20.707
[SPEAKER_01]: If he has even, like, passable matches is the IWGP champion.

01:14:21.128 --> 01:14:23.492
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, he's going to get shit on no matter what.

01:14:23.793 --> 01:14:29.704
[SPEAKER_01]: If you would own social media this past week, like, the knives were out for this dude from the get go.

01:14:29.724 --> 01:14:35.875
[SPEAKER_01]: They were, they were going after, like, him and I'll spray me a neurodivergent and like, all of these things.

01:14:35.895 --> 01:14:38.440
[SPEAKER_01]: If you're like, none of this has anything to do with anything.

01:14:38.420 --> 01:14:42.085
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I'm like, this guy has talented enough to win the IWGP title 23.

01:14:42.325 --> 01:14:47.992
[SPEAKER_01]: I just didn't think they were going to do it had nothing to do, whether he was good enough or not to do it.

01:14:48.332 --> 01:14:49.253
[SPEAKER_01]: I think he's good enough.

01:14:49.674 --> 01:14:51.376
[SPEAKER_01]: I think he's incredibly talented.

01:14:51.857 --> 01:15:00.968
[SPEAKER_01]: And there's a lot of people in the wrestling world with a pedigree way better than the people watching this show than also seem to feel that way and took action to do so.

01:15:00.948 --> 01:15:12.252
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm not worried about that part and just the aspect of, there's a lot of pressure on him to deliver at this point, to be the guy that can drive people in the seat as a heel champion.

01:15:13.094 --> 01:15:18.585
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think he can do it, but he's going to need a lot of help from the promotion in order to put him in that.

01:15:18.565 --> 01:15:41.620
[SPEAKER_02]: right and just like what what message are we trying to send with these national tv shows like they they had it right at kingdom this is okay air wolf is a mainstream star mainstream sports star so they made him look good okay i can understand that uh they they crown Yoda suji okay our home to our home grown guy yes uh you know i thought okay that that was actually encouraging now we're going to go into dominion and well suji's lost

01:15:41.600 --> 01:15:49.211
[SPEAKER_02]: Wolf is lost and now it's Calum Newman is he going to go into a tea national TV special dominion in the main event.

01:15:49.252 --> 01:15:52.176
[SPEAKER_02]: It just doesn't seem like something that's going to sell tickets.

01:15:52.196 --> 01:15:55.000
[SPEAKER_02]: And then yeah, again, the inconsistency Brad brings this up.

01:15:55.020 --> 01:15:57.804
[SPEAKER_02]: They couldn't break the junior record with Fujita, but they pulled the trigger here.

01:15:58.325 --> 01:16:00.489
[SPEAKER_02]: I love Newman, but their priorities are messed up.

01:16:00.509 --> 01:16:01.310
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, I think so too.

01:16:01.390 --> 01:16:03.473
[SPEAKER_02]: Get more some more.

01:16:03.453 --> 01:16:14.310
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, before you know, it's a homegrown guy that I think that I think that they thought they laid the foundation for him, sufficiently enough, they could do this at this time.

01:16:14.991 --> 01:16:16.673
[SPEAKER_01]: He had the title for less to a hundred days.

01:16:17.094 --> 01:16:24.045
[SPEAKER_01]: This was the second title that I believe, and it just wasn't enough time to cement him as the legitimate the guy.

01:16:24.185 --> 01:16:24.786
[SPEAKER_01]: It just wasn't

01:16:26.251 --> 01:16:30.917
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and Jordan from Canada mentions I'd be surprised if Calam the holds this title for over five months.

01:16:30.977 --> 01:16:31.337
[SPEAKER_02]: I would too.

01:16:32.018 --> 01:16:34.101
[SPEAKER_02]: I expect sushi to get the strat back before the end of the year.

01:16:34.141 --> 01:16:34.721
[SPEAKER_02]: You never know.

01:16:35.262 --> 01:16:37.525
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, yeah, you'd definitely never know, but I agree with you.

01:16:37.545 --> 01:16:39.247
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think he's a long term guy.

01:16:39.507 --> 01:16:42.931
[SPEAKER_02]: But again, bouncing the title around doesn't get anybody particularly over either.

01:16:43.632 --> 01:16:46.856
[SPEAKER_02]: And yeah, Brad mentions I think Will says he's missing Dominion.

01:16:46.876 --> 01:16:48.118
[SPEAKER_02]: He's just getting married that weekend.

01:16:48.158 --> 01:16:49.319
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he's not going to be a Dominion.

01:16:49.680 --> 01:16:51.201
[SPEAKER_02]: So, Calam will have something else to do.

01:16:51.382 --> 01:16:54.165
[SPEAKER_02]: We think the

01:16:54.415 --> 01:17:02.342
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's going to carry through G1 time and I think that that's going to be a slow burn until they actually do it at in the dome as well.

01:17:02.662 --> 01:17:08.668
[SPEAKER_01]: How much it probably retain because if he can't win, when Will's not there, it's a bad book.

01:17:08.688 --> 01:17:08.948
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

01:17:08.988 --> 01:17:09.709
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

01:17:10.129 --> 01:17:16.775
[SPEAKER_02]: Either way, I think he's whenever he does lose, I think he's going to blame Will whether it's logical or or not.

01:17:20.198 --> 01:17:23.781
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

01:17:23.963 --> 01:17:25.285
[SPEAKER_02]: There we are, though.

01:17:25.305 --> 01:17:32.573
[SPEAKER_02]: Afterwards, a mask I came out in attack Yoda Suji, Jesus, and the guy takes off the mask to reveal Gabe Kid.

01:17:33.013 --> 01:17:35.236
[SPEAKER_02]: So he just takes the mask off himself.

01:17:35.316 --> 01:17:37.038
[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm looking at this, Jeremy.

01:17:37.058 --> 01:17:39.100
[SPEAKER_02]: So this guy comes out beats up Yoda Suji.

01:17:39.701 --> 01:17:44.767
[SPEAKER_02]: He gives a shingle upon he's wearing a mask and then he just takes the mask off.

01:17:44.887 --> 01:17:47.090
[SPEAKER_02]: So there's zero reason to wear the mask whatsoever.

01:17:47.771 --> 01:17:51.675
[SPEAKER_02]: So he's and so Gabe Kid did something that

01:17:52.617 --> 01:18:03.399
[SPEAKER_02]: made no sense was not needed, added absolutely nothing, and had already been done earlier the night when we saw a mask guy interfere with Takeshta.

01:18:04.442 --> 01:18:09.512
[SPEAKER_02]: So again, unnecessary already done, added nothing.

01:18:10.960 --> 01:18:12.522
[SPEAKER_02]: He's definitely an AEW guy.

01:18:13.283 --> 01:18:15.526
[SPEAKER_02]: I've never seen a better example of AEW wrestling.

01:18:15.907 --> 01:18:19.873
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm doing a whole bunch of stuff for no reason that adds zilch.

01:18:20.193 --> 01:18:23.298
[SPEAKER_02]: And there it is, Gabe Kidd, he is definitely an AEW guy.

01:18:23.438 --> 01:18:34.193
[SPEAKER_02]: And I guess now, Suji is going to face him at Don Taco instead of, and we're headed forward for Bidden Bor whenever that's going to be.

01:18:34.233 --> 01:18:38.419
[SPEAKER_02]: And once again, there was a very funny meme that I enjoyed.

01:18:38.888 --> 01:18:45.897
[SPEAKER_02]: It was in the post-match comments of Gabe Kid wearing an AEW shirt, standing on Yoda Succi who's laid out on the floor.

01:18:46.537 --> 01:18:54.267
[SPEAKER_02]: And just said, if one photograph could encapsulate the AEW New Japan relationship, it is this.

01:18:55.348 --> 01:19:01.115
[SPEAKER_02]: And once again, we've just got to sit here while we capitulate to the Neppo babies' whims here.

01:19:01.356 --> 01:19:08.845
[SPEAKER_02]: As we go forward for bitten bore and send Yoda Succi off for more matches with Gabe Kid

01:19:09.466 --> 01:19:23.188
[SPEAKER_01]: I was a little bum that we're running back, Gabe Kidd and Yoda Suji one more time, but I think this is more in service of the AEW New Japan war that they are starting to brew.

01:19:23.208 --> 01:19:28.777
[SPEAKER_01]: And I know that that's not your thing, but I'm kind of excited for it in all honesty.

01:19:28.918 --> 01:19:34.647
[SPEAKER_01]: That, you know, it's like, you're gonna have to have mom looks like this, that don't resonate with everybody, but,

01:19:35.504 --> 01:19:39.889
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, you had an AEW reference and in Ressler show up on secure Genesis.

01:19:40.270 --> 01:19:44.135
[SPEAKER_01]: You then had New Japan Ressler show up on Dynamite within the same week.

01:19:44.515 --> 01:19:47.158
[SPEAKER_01]: I know you don't care, but there are people that do.

01:19:47.859 --> 01:19:53.546
[SPEAKER_01]: And I, in fact, I care, I like inter promotional stuff.

01:19:54.067 --> 01:19:57.851
[SPEAKER_01]: If I feel like my intelligence is not being sold in.

01:19:58.572 --> 01:20:04.920
[SPEAKER_01]: And there are only certain ways that you can make this work and tease it because they both have their own businesses to run.

01:20:06.217 --> 01:20:09.080
[SPEAKER_01]: I wish it wasn't Yoda Fuji and Gabe Kid.

01:20:09.600 --> 01:20:31.480
[SPEAKER_01]: I wish that Yoda Fuji didn't have that global title somebody else did, and then Gabe Kid could fresh few to somebody else over that title, whether it had been you, y'all, or Shoto, or somebody, somebody of that level of calendar, because running back Yoda and Gabe Kid for me is not like heart pumping, yeah, let's do this again.

01:20:31.780 --> 01:20:34.823
[SPEAKER_01]: They hit hard, but it's not fresh.

01:20:36.035 --> 01:20:59.460
[SPEAKER_01]: For me, if you're going to create a narrative and storyline that these two promotions don't like each other rather than, you know, a scenario where Tony caught it just creating matches that he thinks that people are going to like, I, I appreciate an effort to create the illusion of a war between the two, rather than a show that have a record for both emotions.

01:20:59.440 --> 01:21:05.054
[SPEAKER_01]: and you have to you show to build this up throughout the time.

01:21:05.635 --> 01:21:11.810
[SPEAKER_01]: If it happens at the end of the summer and you have one or two shows here, a couple of shows next month, a couple of them here there.

01:21:11.830 --> 01:21:13.254
[SPEAKER_01]: We're just laying the groundwork.

01:21:13.274 --> 01:21:16.622
[SPEAKER_01]: G1 and Drawdy being in their Gabe Kidding in there.

01:21:16.602 --> 01:21:19.585
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just really excited for what that could bring.

01:21:19.725 --> 01:21:26.230
[SPEAKER_01]: I have no doubt that some of those G1 matches are probably, you know, still right over in the NJPN to the AEW for a bit of a door pit.

01:21:26.530 --> 01:21:39.081
[SPEAKER_01]: If you really like, I just, I see bones of a coordinated plan here, and that's all I really want in wrestling, is that there are plans that you execute and that entertain and that the crowd likes.

01:21:39.661 --> 01:21:40.802
[SPEAKER_01]: That's all this has ever been.

01:21:41.383 --> 01:21:46.407
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's not for everybody, but I'm not gonna lie to you, Steven.

01:21:46.943 --> 01:21:54.316
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I just didn't see a lot of coordination with what we saw at Genesis versus what they stumbled through on dynamite, but which we'll get to in just a little bit.

01:21:54.377 --> 01:21:59.506
[SPEAKER_02]: But Vankan mentions that Gabe wore the mask for the pop, I guess, and a shirt for the booze.

01:21:59.606 --> 01:22:06.759
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, to assure that the timing was right for the booze and the reveal and the further booze could like he comes out and then they're scattered.

01:22:06.899 --> 01:22:07.681
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that's give kid.

01:22:07.701 --> 01:22:08.382
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that's give kid.

01:22:08.442 --> 01:22:09.424
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that's give kid.

01:22:10.147 --> 01:22:16.023
[SPEAKER_01]: But you don't get the old boo escape kid and then old boo, you can AEW guy down.

01:22:16.043 --> 01:22:24.004
[SPEAKER_01]: Which was the entire point of the messages that they were trying to set up like, if you're gonna AEW guy, if not our guy anymore, hate him.

01:22:24.473 --> 01:22:27.217
[SPEAKER_02]: And Tern says that's a cynical take on Gabe coming out.

01:22:27.257 --> 01:22:28.259
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I was cynical on it.

01:22:29.100 --> 01:22:32.385
[SPEAKER_02]: And I like Gabe, I don't like this.

01:22:33.126 --> 01:22:36.151
[SPEAKER_02]: I just don't care for this story that's going on here.

01:22:36.171 --> 01:22:41.599
[SPEAKER_02]: And I don't any said, I think it's no worthy that they are putting AEW as a heal with Gabe in New Japan.

01:22:41.819 --> 01:22:48.589
[SPEAKER_02]: And the next that I had no desire to see Gabe and New Japan again, said he returned after two months to rest of the same guy he viewed it with all last year.

01:22:48.890 --> 01:22:50.312
[SPEAKER_02]: It got to what I'm saying.

01:22:50.292 --> 01:22:51.513
[SPEAKER_02]: it's just the sameness to it.

01:22:51.533 --> 01:22:51.753
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

01:22:52.254 --> 01:22:55.797
[SPEAKER_02]: And then Colin says that Suji needs to win the G1.

01:22:57.058 --> 01:23:00.761
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe, but then a couple weeks ago, we said that you had a lot of people to need to win the G1.

01:23:00.861 --> 01:23:02.523
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

01:23:02.543 --> 01:23:04.584
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, again, it would have meant now you.

01:23:04.604 --> 01:23:13.352
[SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't need to win it anymore, you know, because Suji lost the title like, why not rushing to made a vet to me if you ever took Yoda and right now they're not a pathway for that to happen.

01:23:13.492 --> 01:23:19.017
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm like, and not only that, that might draw 15,000 right now

01:23:18.997 --> 01:23:21.720
[SPEAKER_02]: He's guys, these guys are toasts.

01:23:21.740 --> 01:23:22.481
[SPEAKER_01]: They're not for ours.

01:23:22.862 --> 01:23:23.402
[SPEAKER_01]: They're not for ours.

01:23:23.422 --> 01:23:23.883
[SPEAKER_01]: They're not for ours.

01:23:24.263 --> 01:23:24.664
[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you.

01:23:25.024 --> 01:23:25.324
[SPEAKER_02]: That's it.

01:23:25.645 --> 01:23:27.387
[SPEAKER_02]: You're way more is not a star.

01:23:27.507 --> 01:23:32.913
[SPEAKER_02]: Not because he isn't talented enough to be one, but because he isn't portrayed as one.

01:23:32.933 --> 01:23:33.634
[SPEAKER_02]: It's end of story.

01:23:33.834 --> 01:23:40.062
[SPEAKER_02]: He fails all the time, but it is not an lack of talent, not a lack of talent.

01:23:40.222 --> 01:23:44.667
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a lack of clear, concise, positive booking.

01:23:45.575 --> 01:23:46.316
[SPEAKER_02]: and a story there.

01:23:47.218 --> 01:23:51.725
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's um, we're running low on time here, but we're going to go longer.

01:23:52.206 --> 01:23:53.508
[SPEAKER_01]: New angle.

01:23:53.688 --> 01:23:55.671
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's cover the AEW angle.

01:23:56.052 --> 01:24:04.005
[SPEAKER_01]: Then we'll talk about the two best of Super Junior additions and then we'll run down all the matches that we're announced.

01:24:04.070 --> 01:24:17.668
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so Shingo Takagi after the Gabe Kid was attacked, wasn't too worried about you know, the Suji, even though he was dragged out by Gabe still being beaten upon, but Shingo decided to stop taking detour into the ring and challenge for the world title, which he found himself at the ring.

01:24:17.808 --> 01:24:18.008
[SPEAKER_01]: What?

01:24:18.489 --> 01:24:19.590
[SPEAKER_01]: How did I find myself here?

01:24:20.231 --> 01:24:25.858
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, maybe you can go help your friend who he came out to help in the first place, failed to help, and then he was dragged off to get beaten up more back.

01:24:25.878 --> 01:24:29.443
[SPEAKER_01]: But no, he's a family man and being a family man means that he's got to go after that title.

01:24:29.463 --> 01:24:31.085
[SPEAKER_01]: Deepen.

01:24:31.245 --> 01:24:31.525
[SPEAKER_02]: God.

01:24:31.806 --> 01:24:32.727
[SPEAKER_02]: All right.

01:24:32.707 --> 01:24:47.105
[SPEAKER_02]: So gosh, where do we even start so after after the promos after all this stuff will mentions in the backstage area that he has had some trouble back in the United States and AEW and he could use some backup.

01:24:47.185 --> 01:25:00.081
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, we didn't have to wait very long because last night, there was an angle on dynamite it opened the show Jeremy opened the show in front of hundreds of people in Alberta, but they had.

01:25:02.710 --> 01:25:05.655
[SPEAKER_02]: Will is fighting with Osprey on the outside.

01:25:05.676 --> 01:25:07.379
[SPEAKER_02]: Not Osprey, but will is Osprey.

01:25:07.419 --> 01:25:12.228
[SPEAKER_02]: Will Osprey is fighting with John Moxley on the outside, mostly by punching him in the arm.

01:25:12.248 --> 01:25:18.319
[SPEAKER_02]: So Moxley could do the Nikolai Volkov bump, where he puts his knee down and then his arm, and it just kind of rolls to the side.

01:25:19.401 --> 01:25:21.285
[SPEAKER_02]: Nobody's working too hard here.

01:25:21.906 --> 01:25:25.292
[SPEAKER_02]: And so will is fighting all of them.

01:25:25.964 --> 01:25:27.646
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, you're not an Empire suit.

01:25:27.666 --> 01:25:28.467
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's make this clear.

01:25:28.747 --> 01:25:30.829
[SPEAKER_01]: He's not wearing a sweatsuit or anything like that.

01:25:31.109 --> 01:25:32.991
[SPEAKER_01]: He'd read the Vardolves dub right now.

01:25:33.011 --> 01:25:34.173
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he does this.

01:25:34.193 --> 01:25:36.575
[SPEAKER_02]: So he's decided he's going to take all these guys on.

01:25:36.595 --> 01:25:39.058
[SPEAKER_02]: And of course, he's getting the live and crap beaten out of him.

01:25:39.078 --> 01:25:39.939
[SPEAKER_02]: And then he's sitting there.

01:25:40.059 --> 01:25:41.540
[SPEAKER_02]: And then he, oh, don't worry, Colin.

01:25:41.561 --> 01:25:42.582
[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to talk about Super Junior.

01:25:42.722 --> 01:25:43.422
[SPEAKER_02]: So we'll get there.

01:25:43.442 --> 01:25:44.123
[SPEAKER_02]: So we're going to go all along.

01:25:44.684 --> 01:25:49.569
[SPEAKER_02]: So then we'll, after having the crap kicked out of him, for, I don't know how long, who cares?

01:25:49.729 --> 01:25:50.950
[SPEAKER_02]: Wasn't that long, but it started.

01:25:50.970 --> 01:25:54.334
[SPEAKER_02]: He was getting the live and crap in, yeah.

01:25:54.314 --> 01:25:58.960
[SPEAKER_02]: to an SUV that was apparently four inches off camera.

01:25:58.980 --> 01:26:06.070
[SPEAKER_02]: Because as soon as he wave, this SUV rolls up, which was apparently sitting there the entire time watching will have the shake kicked out of him.

01:26:06.090 --> 01:26:22.212
[SPEAKER_02]: Then instead of fighting him, keep in mind, that five guys beating the living hell out of will, they all stop and line up perfectly in a neat little row so that they can watch

01:26:23.592 --> 01:26:24.813
[SPEAKER_02]: Do they try to fight him again?

01:26:24.834 --> 01:26:27.156
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh no, no, no, no, no, no.

01:26:27.196 --> 01:26:33.344
[SPEAKER_02]: We have a five on one advantage, and now it's a five on two advantage, but we're not gonna fight, no, we're going to wait until one by one.

01:26:34.045 --> 01:26:34.866
[SPEAKER_02]: The guys get out.

01:26:35.286 --> 01:26:37.769
[SPEAKER_02]: We would Francesco Akiro, where he'd sunglasses.

01:26:38.090 --> 01:26:42.034
[SPEAKER_02]: With another guy wearing a hat, completely unprepared in the lineup.

01:26:42.154 --> 01:26:45.418
[SPEAKER_02]: A bunch of guys that the AEW crowd has no idea about.

01:26:45.839 --> 01:26:51.726
[SPEAKER_02]: Meanwhile, X-Calibur's babbling on it, 100 miles an hour, no one's paying attention, trying to explain who these people are in 10 seconds or less.

01:26:52.516 --> 01:27:01.081
[SPEAKER_02]: Then they begin one of the dumbest-looking brawls that you will ever see, one of the weakest punches ever thrown, some of the most careful bumps ever taken.

01:27:02.345 --> 01:27:04.652
[SPEAKER_02]: They meander their way down to the ring.

01:27:04.885 --> 01:27:06.988
[SPEAKER_02]: At one point, these guys are fighting.

01:27:07.389 --> 01:27:09.973
[SPEAKER_02]: And there were so many just awkward pauses.

01:27:10.214 --> 01:27:13.559
[SPEAKER_02]: At one point, Moxley and Will are fighting with each other, fighting with each other.

01:27:13.579 --> 01:27:14.621
[SPEAKER_02]: And then they just stop.

01:27:15.242 --> 01:27:18.267
[SPEAKER_02]: And they're both down on one knee across the ring from each other.

01:27:18.687 --> 01:27:27.802
[SPEAKER_02]: And they just sit and wait, because Alex Windsor isn't positioned to do a pre-plant spot where she comes out to the apron camera side, hard cameras over there, Alex.

01:27:28.203 --> 01:27:31.568
[SPEAKER_02]: And then does a rolling centon into Marina Schaffer.

01:27:31.548 --> 01:27:32.830
[SPEAKER_02]: they had to wait patiently for that.

01:27:33.190 --> 01:27:36.175
[SPEAKER_02]: There's another time when Hennara is late getting down to the ring.

01:27:36.195 --> 01:27:44.127
[SPEAKER_02]: So, Moxley is somebody's holding Moxley, one of the faceless guys from this group, whatever, you know, he doesn't matter.

01:27:44.147 --> 01:28:00.171
[SPEAKER_02]: He's over there trying to pound on Will, but he has to look to his side, so he stands like where Will is over his left shoulder and he's kind of tapping Will on the arm waiting for Hennara to make his way down to the ring so they can do their pre-arranged spots.

01:28:00.151 --> 01:28:02.415
[SPEAKER_02]: This was horrendous.

01:28:02.435 --> 01:28:03.797
[SPEAKER_02]: I just think this is embarrassing.

01:28:03.877 --> 01:28:06.761
[SPEAKER_02]: I was embarrassed for these guys watching this got off a brawl.

01:28:07.182 --> 01:28:09.646
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it was just this, it was so weak.

01:28:09.886 --> 01:28:10.888
[SPEAKER_02]: It all looks so silly.

01:28:11.128 --> 01:28:22.365
[SPEAKER_02]: And then there were so many times when everybody just kind of stood around and just stopped because they knew that okay, on our on our little choreography sheet here, it says that this is supposed to happen.

01:28:22.405 --> 01:28:24.789
[SPEAKER_02]: So we have to stand here and wait for it to happen.

01:28:25.731 --> 01:28:28.555
[SPEAKER_02]: Meanwhile, I'm listening to this crowd.

01:28:29.345 --> 01:28:31.087
[SPEAKER_02]: And where were they in Canada?

01:28:31.187 --> 01:28:32.368
[SPEAKER_02]: They were an Edmonton or something?

01:28:32.929 --> 01:28:34.731
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Edmonton Albert can do.

01:28:34.751 --> 01:28:37.995
[SPEAKER_02]: I went to a movie a couple of weeks ago, Jeremy, and a theater.

01:28:39.557 --> 01:28:44.142
[SPEAKER_02]: I wish movie theater crowds were as quiet as an audience of dynamite.

01:28:47.646 --> 01:28:49.668
[SPEAKER_02]: You could hear a pin drop in this crowd.

01:28:49.688 --> 01:28:53.393
[SPEAKER_02]: They're just sitting there staring at these people that they didn't understand what was going on.

01:28:53.433 --> 01:28:54.254
[SPEAKER_02]: They didn't know who they were.

01:28:54.274 --> 01:28:58.018
[SPEAKER_02]: And they didn't care about the ones they did know about.

01:28:58.370 --> 01:29:05.078
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, it was, it's just this moment and I wish people were that quiet in the theater because now everybody's on their phones and they're talking to each other and stuff like that.

01:29:05.118 --> 01:29:24.040
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, nobody was talking to each other in a dynamic, but he was just sitting there watching this stuff happen with no reaction and then eventually will try to get people up after they ran off the death writers or whatever they are tried to get everybody up and a few dozen people kind of cheered a little bit and then it moved on.

01:29:25.150 --> 01:29:27.053
[SPEAKER_02]: Embarrassing segment holy crap.

01:29:27.374 --> 01:29:36.590
[SPEAKER_02]: This is what they have to go all the way across the ocean for and none of these guys knew who calmed him and was and it was just kind of said and then he's supposed to be this heel and new Japan He's a baby face over here.

01:29:36.650 --> 01:29:38.733
[SPEAKER_02]: Now I think it's just turning back.

01:29:38.753 --> 01:29:39.835
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought it was weird.

01:29:40.237 --> 01:29:52.834
[SPEAKER_01]: So there were a couple of logistical things that I was like, hmm, first off, no end draw day anywhere between United Empire and being on the show and associated with Don Callis.

01:29:52.874 --> 01:29:57.881
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm sure the old dress and at some point, I think well actually like, tweet it out where you may kind of thing.

01:29:58.041 --> 01:30:01.806
[SPEAKER_01]: And so that one pedophate Tony Wright is on payroll.

01:30:01.786 --> 01:30:12.516
[SPEAKER_01]: I fully expected that United Empire when they were going to be on the show and I mentioned it earlier like Brad not had a conversation because I don't even think that they're going to be seen if babyfaces.

01:30:12.997 --> 01:30:16.808
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think an AEW crowd is going to be familiar with these guys.

01:30:16.788 --> 01:30:23.539
[SPEAKER_01]: And at Caliber, right out the gate, you know, tried to get Henry to name out there, Francesco Kirra and Calum Newman.

01:30:23.559 --> 01:30:27.305
[SPEAKER_01]: Henry, did everything he could to beefed out and be brutal.

01:30:27.726 --> 01:30:37.902
[SPEAKER_01]: A Kirra climbed on every single thing that he could find, including the top of the car, and a ladder throughout the night, in order to do like the high spots that you what he does.

01:30:38.438 --> 01:30:39.159
[SPEAKER_01]: God bless him.

01:30:39.539 --> 01:30:42.602
[SPEAKER_01]: Calam just needed to look like he could hang with the big boys.

01:30:43.664 --> 01:30:46.567
[SPEAKER_01]: And there were points throughout like the entire evening.

01:30:47.288 --> 01:30:48.949
[SPEAKER_01]: Where I thought that's all he had to do.

01:30:49.390 --> 01:30:50.251
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's what he did.

01:30:50.831 --> 01:30:53.354
[SPEAKER_01]: And I didn't need him to like go out.

01:30:53.494 --> 01:30:58.460
[SPEAKER_01]: But when he stood toe to toe with mom, clean a couple of these other guys, he didn't feel out of place.

01:30:58.980 --> 01:31:02.804
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's going to take a couple of reps and it's going to take a bit of time.

01:31:03.245 --> 01:31:06.268
[SPEAKER_01]: And I validate that it wasn't the greatest brawl.

01:31:07.548 --> 01:31:13.998
[SPEAKER_01]: but the whole point was to get people familiar with who these guys were.

01:31:14.018 --> 01:31:29.342
[SPEAKER_01]: And I thought for the most part, those three guys who never really sniffed AEW Dynamite, let it go, like AEW Dynamite, their flagship show, top of the show, like they didn't bury these guys in the middle of the show or anything like that.

01:31:29.582 --> 01:31:34.770
[SPEAKER_01]: There was intentionality to put these guys front to center, make it part of the story

01:31:35.695 --> 01:31:43.105
[SPEAKER_01]: if you ignored who these guys were and are not familiar and willful at this point, AEW did everything in their power to tell you.

01:31:43.426 --> 01:31:46.270
[SPEAKER_01]: These are these guys are, and this is why you should care.

01:31:46.791 --> 01:31:52.118
[SPEAKER_01]: Why they were baby faces here when they're heels in AEW or in New Japan?

01:31:52.599 --> 01:31:53.139
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

01:31:53.159 --> 01:32:02.112
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it has everything to do with the option of if you're a heel in New Japan, maybe you're a baby face and AEW advice versa, just because they don't like each other.

01:32:02.132 --> 01:32:02.833
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

01:32:02.813 --> 01:32:11.085
[SPEAKER_01]: But that was the only thing like, hmm, the Adrona thing is weird, United Empire being baby faces, I can get past.

01:32:12.061 --> 01:32:15.805
[SPEAKER_01]: but I hope that they have an explanation for all of this down the line.

01:32:16.046 --> 01:32:27.979
[SPEAKER_01]: And given that they had their doctor being used and storyline between MGF and Kenny Omega and then had the doctor being interviewed about why this information came out a week later on the show.

01:32:28.460 --> 01:32:33.125
[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like they're hyper-aware and hyper-aware about trying to exploit shit like this away.

01:32:36.069 --> 01:32:37.771
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, not your thing, man.

01:32:37.911 --> 01:32:41.595
[SPEAKER_01]: But you know what, here, I need to stop

01:32:43.111 --> 01:32:48.771
[SPEAKER_01]: Stephen, I want to thank you for eating the bag of shit that you know that you don't like it, UW.

01:32:49.172 --> 01:32:53.728
[SPEAKER_01]: And yet, and yet, you chewed on it.

01:32:54.063 --> 01:33:04.502
[SPEAKER_01]: You slow-load and you then proceeded to tell us about your experience and watching this show even though you knew going in, it was going to be unpleasant and that it brought you no joy.

01:33:05.084 --> 01:33:09.772
[SPEAKER_01]: So I want to just acknowledge the pain that you suffered through.

01:33:09.812 --> 01:33:10.854
[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you, Jeremy.

01:33:11.055 --> 01:33:15.042
[SPEAKER_01]: I want to acknowledge that you did this on behalf of our audience.

01:33:15.022 --> 01:33:27.924
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll be half of the Nameless fame vehicles, hundreds that listen to our show and know that YouTube don't pleasure in any of this and get you did it because you know your responsibility of a host.

01:33:28.185 --> 01:33:32.873
[SPEAKER_02]: All right, well, and Jordan from Kansas is we appreciate your sacrifice.

01:33:32.973 --> 01:33:34.195
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, you're welcome.

01:33:35.035 --> 01:33:37.698
[SPEAKER_02]: There you go, a couple of other notes here.

01:33:37.718 --> 01:33:40.101
[SPEAKER_02]: I want to get to Jeremy Horace said they said Osprey was the leader.

01:33:40.542 --> 01:33:42.845
[SPEAKER_02]: For Anosias, like did he said the doctor's spot was clever.

01:33:44.006 --> 01:33:48.352
[SPEAKER_02]: Turned and said that the only heel thing was when Newman told Will to give Max a stormbreaker after they won.

01:33:48.612 --> 01:33:50.615
[SPEAKER_02]: Keep my guys, that was all I could take.

01:33:50.995 --> 01:33:59.325
[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't watch the mask on her on because I told Jeremy how her off, I wouldn't watch more dynamite at gunpoint at this point to make you an hour ago.

01:33:59.426 --> 01:34:00.988
[SPEAKER_01]: And it told me he'd watch you show it.

01:34:01.048 --> 01:34:02.950
[SPEAKER_01]: I think I'm going to go proud of you.

01:34:03.352 --> 01:34:03.953
[SPEAKER_02]: and it breads us.

01:34:04.013 --> 01:34:04.453
[SPEAKER_02]: I love it.

01:34:04.634 --> 01:34:05.395
[SPEAKER_02]: You love the main event.

01:34:05.415 --> 01:34:08.679
[SPEAKER_02]: Steven's hate will always pop me out what I'm going to entertain you guys.

01:34:09.180 --> 01:34:12.024
[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, no, it's a boy.

01:34:12.224 --> 01:34:13.886
[SPEAKER_02]: But there you go.

01:34:14.006 --> 01:34:15.068
[SPEAKER_02]: That was that was the angle.

01:34:15.108 --> 01:34:17.210
[SPEAKER_02]: So we have a bunch of matches coming up.

01:34:17.250 --> 01:34:21.676
[SPEAKER_02]: Some of which is related to that brawl though, but some of these people learn bobbins and stuff coming up.

01:34:21.977 --> 01:34:23.058
[SPEAKER_02]: I want to go over it real fast.

01:34:23.359 --> 01:34:24.200
[SPEAKER_02]: And we are going to talk.

01:34:24.240 --> 01:34:24.600
[SPEAKER_02]: Don't worry.

01:34:24.620 --> 01:34:26.743
[SPEAKER_02]: We are going to talk about the super junior chairman.

01:34:28.006 --> 01:34:42.335
[SPEAKER_02]: So the tag team title match, I mentioned that'll be the tag team title match will be April 25th in Hiroshima, but April 20th back at Cork and Hall, that's going to be the number one contenders match between Bishop on and United Empire.

01:34:42.355 --> 01:34:44.580
[SPEAKER_02]: So we'll see, Great O'Con and all right.

01:34:44.560 --> 01:34:49.807
[SPEAKER_02]: uh, again, speech on on the 20th, the title master will be the 25th against the knockout brothers in Hiroshima.

01:34:50.107 --> 01:34:54.673
[SPEAKER_02]: That's a double bill, a double tag team bill with ex-initian Mori versus Fujidaan Eagles.

01:34:55.113 --> 01:35:14.297
[SPEAKER_02]: So that, that's a hell of a night of tag team wrestling coming up there on April the 25th, uh, Doki and Tiger Mass will be at Heisen, No Kuni, uh, on April 29th, Dontaku, May 3rd and 4th in Fukuoka, two night event, Suji versus Kid for the global

01:35:14.446 --> 01:35:17.549
[SPEAKER_02]: Wolf versus Falei in the special singles match.

01:35:18.891 --> 01:35:32.686
[SPEAKER_02]: And then May 4th, Newman defending his title against Shingo Takagi will also have United Empire Osprey, Henare, and O'Con against Bolton, Yoshi Hashin and Godo, that will also be to Keshta versus Chase Owens for the TV titles.

01:35:32.766 --> 01:35:33.987
[SPEAKER_02]: So we have all of those.

01:35:34.788 --> 01:35:38.092
[SPEAKER_02]: So a lot of matches announced coming out of this whole thing.

01:35:38.432 --> 01:35:38.873
[SPEAKER_01]: I can then.

01:35:38.893 --> 01:35:39.533
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm up with you.

01:35:39.553 --> 01:35:41.135
[SPEAKER_01]: I had a weird order all of these.

01:35:41.155 --> 01:35:43.778
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to flip them through on people

01:35:43.977 --> 01:36:04.180
[SPEAKER_02]: Then we had the announcement for the final two people in the Super Junior tournament and I have to say good job for New Japan I've been criticizing them a lot good job for New Japan for saving these two for last and doing a nice little piece of misdirection because I think a lot of people thought certainly we did Jeremy that this was going to be die in kukai right instead

01:36:04.160 --> 01:36:06.524
[SPEAKER_02]: Nick Wayne, that's a nice piece of news.

01:36:06.564 --> 01:36:11.211
[SPEAKER_02]: He was terrific when he's been in AEW before and I think he's gonna have something nice to this tournament.

01:36:11.231 --> 01:36:18.862
[SPEAKER_02]: So Nick Wayne, going to be part of Super Junior's and then, then, June Kessai.

01:36:19.062 --> 01:36:19.323
[SPEAKER_02]: Sure.

01:36:19.403 --> 01:36:21.466
[SPEAKER_02]: In the best of the Super Junior tournament.

01:36:21.546 --> 01:36:21.907
[SPEAKER_02]: I got it.

01:36:23.629 --> 01:36:28.176
[SPEAKER_02]: June Kessai and he's not in L. Desparado's block.

01:36:29.101 --> 01:36:36.168
[SPEAKER_02]: Which means that the other guys are going to have to figure out how to work with this guy in this style and I now we mentioned before.

01:36:36.488 --> 01:36:44.075
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not much of a death match wrestler, but I really respect what June Kassai does in that genre match of death to the Super Junior.

01:36:45.316 --> 01:36:47.579
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think he's going to do a whole lot of it.

01:36:47.639 --> 01:36:54.846
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just it's just fascinating to me that these guys this is a very different human being than these guys usually work.

01:36:55.566 --> 01:36:57.488
[SPEAKER_02]: June can do what the things.

01:36:57.856 --> 01:36:59.681
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he's not only death match.

01:36:59.701 --> 01:37:01.586
[SPEAKER_02]: He just, that's, that's his wheelhouse.

01:37:01.647 --> 01:37:02.770
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what he's a draw for.

01:37:02.810 --> 01:37:04.715
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what puts people's and seats.

01:37:04.735 --> 01:37:05.337
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what he does.

01:37:05.598 --> 01:37:12.878
[SPEAKER_02]: I am very curious, Jeremy, to see what Junkeside does under this structure, because I think he's going to do some death match stuff.

01:37:12.858 --> 01:37:18.548
[SPEAKER_02]: But I don't think it's going to be a series of every match in Duke as I has is going to be some bloody death match in Super Junior.

01:37:18.788 --> 01:37:19.690
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't see them doing that.

01:37:20.371 --> 01:37:21.693
[SPEAKER_02]: So I think there will be elements of it.

01:37:21.874 --> 01:37:25.139
[SPEAKER_02]: But I'm curious to see how these guys work with him and how he does in the structure.

01:37:25.239 --> 01:37:28.004
[SPEAKER_02]: What what's your take on Duke as I in Super Junior.

01:37:28.906 --> 01:37:36.098
[SPEAKER_01]: I hope that he managed to get everyone at his block to agree that there are no countups and no disqualifications in any of the patches.

01:37:37.462 --> 01:37:43.949
[SPEAKER_01]: Just you know what before the cut do you agree to know count out to the qualification and they're like, no, are you a coward?

01:37:44.229 --> 01:37:44.729
[SPEAKER_01]: Fine.

01:37:44.829 --> 01:37:47.752
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll do it.

01:37:47.772 --> 01:37:49.134
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so there you go, Jun.

01:37:49.234 --> 01:37:50.515
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I'm into it.

01:37:50.635 --> 01:37:54.079
[SPEAKER_01]: I just, you know, talking talking today.

01:37:54.099 --> 01:37:57.042
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just like, how are you going to make Jun decide work in this thing?

01:37:57.062 --> 01:38:03.148
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, like, he's a very specific kind of wrestler and this is not that specific kind of wrestling.

01:38:04.310 --> 01:38:07.453
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so Jeremy or is asking he has a question for me.

01:38:07.473 --> 01:38:11.537
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, you can email me at ringsidereplay at gmail.com anytime you guys have a question.

01:38:11.557 --> 01:38:13.239
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll do everything I can to answer it.

01:38:13.259 --> 01:38:25.471
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll research if I need to but I will answer any questions to have ringsidereplay at gmail.com And Nick Reeves says he appreciates that they're adhering to Desperado and Besides promise not to rest of each other for 10 years.

01:38:25.551 --> 01:38:26.172
[SPEAKER_02]: That's a good point.

01:38:26.332 --> 01:38:32.578
[SPEAKER_02]: They did kind of promise that this wouldn't happen and of course Besides not going to win this tournament or be part of it the you know the bees

01:38:32.558 --> 01:38:35.843
[SPEAKER_02]: He's there to be an entertaining part of the tournament, but he's not going to be in contention.

01:38:36.243 --> 01:38:40.129
[SPEAKER_02]: And then Brad mentioned four or five companies represent in this tournament, which is awesome to see.

01:38:40.269 --> 01:38:42.152
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, there's a little bit of DDT in here.

01:38:42.192 --> 01:38:43.253
[SPEAKER_02]: There's a little dragon's gate.

01:38:43.273 --> 01:38:44.135
[SPEAKER_02]: There's a little freedom.

01:38:44.255 --> 01:38:45.336
[SPEAKER_02]: There's a little AEW.

01:38:45.376 --> 01:38:46.378
[SPEAKER_02]: There's a lot of new Japan.

01:38:47.279 --> 01:38:49.943
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, there is some good you won't get me pretty similar.

01:38:50.463 --> 01:39:05.839
[SPEAKER_02]: that would be great and yeah and it turns out I would love it if he does his death match stuff on the first match only to get de-cued and I'm doing regular matches later that could be right that could do all right we got an A-block and a B-block here that we can run through real quick yeah

01:39:06.224 --> 01:39:07.508
[SPEAKER_01]: So we got in the a block.

01:39:07.528 --> 01:39:08.390
[SPEAKER_01]: We got master water.

01:39:08.450 --> 01:39:09.674
[SPEAKER_01]: We got real good to Gucci.

01:39:10.055 --> 01:39:11.239
[SPEAKER_01]: We got to say food you.

01:39:11.259 --> 01:39:13.806
[SPEAKER_01]: We got Robbie at we got French just to a cure.

01:39:14.207 --> 01:39:15.010
[SPEAKER_01]: We got dokey.

01:39:15.270 --> 01:39:16.213
[SPEAKER_01]: We got Teton.

01:39:16.454 --> 01:39:17.778
[SPEAKER_01]: We got valianti junior.

01:39:17.818 --> 01:39:20.706
[SPEAKER_01]: We got Nick Wayne and we got June to side.

01:39:21.665 --> 01:39:23.528
[SPEAKER_01]: In the B-block, we got El Desperado.

01:39:23.548 --> 01:39:24.709
[SPEAKER_01]: We got Conxita.

01:39:24.729 --> 01:39:37.127
[SPEAKER_01]: We got Yel, Roddy Eagle, Tagey Shimori, Jacob Austin Young, Shko, Yoshinobu, Kenamaro, Hiyo, and Dithuki, Saki, Saki, Saki.

01:39:37.487 --> 01:39:38.449
[SPEAKER_00]: Good to see you on this thing.

01:39:39.510 --> 01:39:44.397
[SPEAKER_01]: But it's not like the last couple years, there's only one winner from each block to move forward.

01:39:44.437 --> 01:39:47.742
[SPEAKER_01]: There's not a plan for people that make it.

01:39:48.302 --> 01:39:50.946
[SPEAKER_01]: So of the blocks, one of those,

01:39:51.685 --> 01:39:52.887
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, it's that kids will come out.

01:39:53.448 --> 01:40:02.301
[SPEAKER_01]: It'll probably be a little bit easier to figure out who's going what and where, but fire to pick three from the top and three from the bottom.

01:40:02.642 --> 01:40:20.089
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna go with Fujuna, Akira, and Nick Wayne, and on the bottom, I'm gonna go with different types of Robbie Eagle, Death Barado, and

01:40:22.229 --> 01:40:23.391
[SPEAKER_01]: Go, it's my top three.

01:40:25.574 --> 01:40:25.654
[UNKNOWN]: Hmm.

01:40:25.674 --> 01:40:25.774
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

01:40:25.794 --> 01:40:26.094
[SPEAKER_02]: All right.

01:40:26.214 --> 01:40:28.658
[SPEAKER_02]: So I will take a look at this as the tournament approach.

01:40:28.678 --> 01:40:30.821
[SPEAKER_02]: We have a lot to go before we even get to Super Junior.

01:40:30.841 --> 01:40:31.702
[SPEAKER_02]: Look at all, mud the way.

01:40:32.703 --> 01:40:34.065
[SPEAKER_02]: With Dontaku and everything else there.

01:40:34.606 --> 01:40:37.330
[SPEAKER_02]: And Brad is saying, make Teton versus Kasiya death match.

01:40:37.350 --> 01:40:38.732
[SPEAKER_02]: Get the CMLL guys in on that.

01:40:39.232 --> 01:40:42.397
[SPEAKER_02]: And then Megan says he wants to see June, Kasiya, give House of Torture, taste their medicine.

01:40:42.737 --> 01:40:46.262
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, Kasiya, the only House of Torture guy in his block is Doki.

01:40:47.052 --> 01:40:57.786
[SPEAKER_01]: I apologize, I did not grab any graphics for the death match invitational on Thursday for Death Brotto.

01:40:58.287 --> 01:41:04.475
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't really think it's New Japan, and even though you can watch it on New Japan world, you can't order it through there.

01:41:05.236 --> 01:41:13.127
[SPEAKER_01]: And we were going to talk about live stream like watching the live show and calling it in a clock at night, the show that we could do, Steven.

01:41:13.107 --> 01:41:20.198
[SPEAKER_01]: the CMLL show, which I would not be opposed to CMLL or it's speaking strong to me.

01:41:20.279 --> 01:41:21.620
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, you know, it's interesting, too.

01:41:21.961 --> 01:41:32.751
[SPEAKER_02]: By the way, Shomakato had his first match in Arena Mexico on the Super Friday, the first big Friday night show in a Pat House in Arena Mexico.

01:41:33.071 --> 01:41:38.096
[SPEAKER_02]: Because I have the $10 tier for CMLL, I will see that on a 10-day delay.

01:41:38.156 --> 01:41:40.037
[SPEAKER_02]: So I should be able to report back next week.

01:41:40.077 --> 01:41:43.180
[SPEAKER_02]: He was in there with the Uttari and Okamura, the Japanese contingent.

01:41:43.761 --> 01:41:48.345
[SPEAKER_02]: And against, I was a Captain Suicita, I want to say,

01:41:48.325 --> 01:41:51.668
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, this was in that match, uh, brilliant day, brilliant day.

01:41:51.949 --> 01:41:52.589
[SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, I'll have it.

01:41:52.629 --> 01:41:55.092
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll have a report on it next week when I'm able to see the whole thing.

01:41:55.272 --> 01:41:56.133
[SPEAKER_02]: I've seen some highlights.

01:41:56.253 --> 01:41:59.977
[SPEAKER_02]: Our boy has, uh, he has a, uh, he's died his hair blonde.

01:42:00.037 --> 01:42:01.358
[SPEAKER_02]: He's a bleach blonde now.

01:42:01.458 --> 01:42:02.619
[SPEAKER_02]: He's got new gear.

01:42:02.719 --> 01:42:04.722
[SPEAKER_02]: So we'll take a look at that.

01:42:04.782 --> 01:42:04.962
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:42:05.022 --> 01:42:14.131
[SPEAKER_01]: Meloshoves are going to be on a, uh, on Foxport 2, uh, moving forward, but I'm not sure if it's only in Mexico, or if it Foxport 2 in the US as well.

01:42:14.631 --> 01:42:17.134
[SPEAKER_01]: But they're airing them live on Friday night.

01:42:18.397 --> 01:42:21.260
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and then that college says, I'm not going to watch any of the collective shows.

01:42:21.320 --> 01:42:25.084
[SPEAKER_02]: Stephen, I don't know, I don't know if I'm going to have time.

01:42:25.104 --> 01:42:29.009
[SPEAKER_02]: There's an awful lot going on right now between startup and marigold, Noah.

01:42:29.029 --> 01:42:31.491
[SPEAKER_01]: CML is the only one I want to watch at this point.

01:42:31.511 --> 01:42:31.952
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

01:42:33.093 --> 01:42:37.138
[SPEAKER_02]: The CMLL1 has my attention, so does startup.

01:42:37.178 --> 01:42:38.219
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, okay, curious.

01:42:38.299 --> 01:42:39.440
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm curious about the startup.

01:42:39.460 --> 01:42:40.241
[SPEAKER_01]: That's startup.

01:42:40.341 --> 01:42:44.826
[SPEAKER_01]: Actually, I have a lot of fun with the, with a lot of the Western records that are going to be on the card.

01:42:45.599 --> 01:42:47.661
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm curious about the TJPW stuff too.

01:42:47.841 --> 01:42:50.163
[SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, there's going to be plenty.

01:42:50.404 --> 01:42:51.945
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if I'm going to have much I'll be able to go.

01:42:51.965 --> 01:42:57.170
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll break down anything that we watch next week on the show, cause, you know, stuff that we watch.

01:42:58.311 --> 01:43:00.053
[SPEAKER_02]: All right, so I guess we have a big thing.

01:43:00.773 --> 01:43:01.674
[SPEAKER_02]: No, I think that's about it.

01:43:01.694 --> 01:43:04.897
[SPEAKER_02]: We went over what's coming up and went down that list.

01:43:04.917 --> 01:43:06.158
[SPEAKER_02]: We talked about the super juniors.

01:43:06.559 --> 01:43:07.199
[SPEAKER_02]: I think we've done this.

01:43:08.300 --> 01:43:13.125
[SPEAKER_01]: Yay, Steven, wait a first of year through a typical week of wrestling.

01:43:13.375 --> 01:43:17.501
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and bank and matches renaverses renaverses a theme that happening on that show.

01:43:17.521 --> 01:43:17.661
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

01:43:17.942 --> 01:43:26.594
[SPEAKER_02]: There's some, one of the great things about WrestleMania weekend shows you do get to see some people come in that aren't normally there, you know, we just that.

01:43:26.635 --> 01:43:28.397
[SPEAKER_02]: So there's a lot of stuff coming up.

01:43:28.417 --> 01:43:35.788
[SPEAKER_02]: And so enjoy whatever it is you enjoy there's there is a there's a shoe for every foot for you to enjoy it.

01:43:36.629 --> 01:43:37.170
[SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely.

01:43:37.210 --> 01:43:42.302
[SPEAKER_02]: So I hope everybody does pick out something they like and yeah, the CMLL one definitely has my attention.

01:43:42.323 --> 01:43:45.370
[SPEAKER_01]: So damn guys, we have like 110 comments today.

01:43:45.430 --> 01:43:46.813
[SPEAKER_01]: You guys were on fire.

01:43:46.833 --> 01:43:52.106
[SPEAKER_01]: I want to thank you so much for a lively chat among the crowd.

01:43:52.727 --> 01:43:54.351
[SPEAKER_01]: They're apparently nothing to talk about.

01:43:56.069 --> 01:43:59.254
[SPEAKER_02]: With that in mind, I want to thank everybody who has watched us here live.

01:43:59.334 --> 01:44:03.742
[SPEAKER_02]: Everybody who catches this show later on as a podcast or here on YouTube.

01:44:03.762 --> 01:44:05.064
[SPEAKER_02]: We definitely appreciate your time.

01:44:05.104 --> 01:44:06.126
[SPEAKER_02]: We know there are a lot of choices.

01:44:06.166 --> 01:44:07.789
[SPEAKER_02]: We're glad you spent some with us.

01:44:07.949 --> 01:44:10.914
[SPEAKER_02]: So when we back next week, talk about all the latest developments.

01:44:11.695 --> 01:44:13.198
[SPEAKER_02]: Jeremy Feinstein, I'm Stephen Conway.

01:44:13.238 --> 01:44:16.423
[SPEAKER_02]: This has been Speaking of Strong Style and we will talk to you all again very soon.