Jan. 27, 2026

AJ Styles vs. Gunther: Retirement or Glory? Royal Rumble Predictions | Takedown

AJ Styles vs. Gunther: Retirement or Glory? Royal Rumble Predictions | Takedown

Is it the end for the Phenomenal One? Takedown previews the massive AJ Styles vs. Gunther "Career vs. Ring General" clash and predicts every surprise for the 2026 Royal Rumble. From the "House of Fire" powerhouse to shocking eliminations, Garrett and Paul give you the ultimate guide for Saturday’s PLE. Click to listen now!

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, hey, it's a rare live version of takedown, Paul and I figured, since we had the time, we might as well do a Royal Rumble predictions show with the big event on Saturday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Though, you couldn't really tell it was that big of an event based on how WWE is pushing this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't even know if it's like a lack of hype or just like laziness.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like it just feels like,

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're relying on the idea that the name is going to sell the event and they're not doing too much on their end.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I mean, it's funny because I was kind of feeling that way as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then like I was getting texts from people during the show last night that were like super fired up a little demo.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, DMs and text, whatever, I mean, isn't it more, though, because it's just rumble season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, no, they like it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're specifically related to what was going to be on the show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I watched raw, like, so this was like, because I watched it on delay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I was like, I'm not exactly sure what there's so fired up a bone.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So now that is an interesting thought by the people who you were talking to because I look at this card and I think there's a little bit of

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[SPEAKER_01]: duplication here with the two non rumble matches because in both matches, you have two underdog baby faces.

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[SPEAKER_01]: One has to win or retire and the other has to win in order to achieve, you know, the thing that they've been in storyline for the last three years about, which is the world title.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm just like,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought maybe they could have saved one of these matches for the elimination chambers, so we wouldn't have a similar story of small underdog baby face having to beat the big heel.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like that's interesting to me when I looked at this card as why did they have both of these matches on the same show?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and I think you're right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I mean, obviously, I think the Sammy one kind of has to be here because of the location, more than anything, but aging and gunther, certainly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And less AJ is retiring, and this is his last day.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And maybe that's why that had to be here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Tell me this guy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't have to lose on this day and he couldn't stretch it out in another month I'm not buying any of this like I'm and I know people are and people are convinced and you know The knock-a-murah thing and the scene a thing and you know, and it's like

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't trust this company, like, you know, anything that gets out that you're not supposed to see, like, to me is like, it's just another work.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's on season four of unreal, you know, like, that definitely adds an element to it, though I will say at least the Gunther and AJ part of this, I think it's been very well done for the reason, for the reason that you just said

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they're making predictions like Fernando just made a prediction that he said he doesn't think AJ is retiring, but if I asked Fernando to put 500 bucks on that, he would there's no way he'd be like, no way, I'm not that sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that's engaging that's the favorite.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think AJ is the favorite in the betting lines if I'm remembering right from the observer.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, but that was before the Nakamura thing so maybe that you know, maybe that's changed now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we'll get into our predictions.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We have a list of things that we're going to predict as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'll keep a running tally that we can then come back and say how close or how far we were.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think I almost feel like there has to be one more match added because if both rumbles are an hour and change,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Then you're already at about two and a half hours and then if you have I guess both matches will be long yeah like I think it's a half hour for each match between entrances in the match so that's three and a half hours right there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess I guess maybe they don't go for out just based off of what happened on raw last night.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought okay, is CM Punk going to be involved in anyway, which is also kind of funny because when you have the champions, so CM Punk doesn't have a match on this show, doesn't need to win the rumble.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So on one of their biggest matches, the biggest shows of the year, CM Punk

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[SPEAKER_01]: is going to be hanging out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What is or not there, although I imagine AJ Lee's going to be in the women's rumbles.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he's probably there with her.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And same with Jade and same with Stephanie of a care whose title matches actually next week on raw.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They may not be there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I saw Charlotte and Alexa or

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[SPEAKER_00]: You could do, again, posts with, you know, out there in their, in their, I don't know if they were in swimsuits or whatever, but you could, you could do, you could do a United States open challenge on the show that be cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, they'll probably do that on SmackDown though, so, um, you know, I don't know, but I mean, I, I'm at this point.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm kind of expecting four matches, but if we get a fifth, that's cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think, you know, I, I would like to, now, there's nothing wrong with the two matches that I just talked about.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But because they're so thematically similar, yeah, are we doing those matches back to back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're telling a similar kind of theme story.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you kind of must have because they usually open with one rumble and close with the other.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So then you're going to have the other two matches in between.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I suppose you could open with Drew and Sammy and then and then do one of the rumbles and then AJ Gunther and then the other rumble.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I assume the men's rumble is going to mean event, but I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you could.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would assume so.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but I mean, I'm wondering which one has more intrigue?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Probably the men's.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The men's is pretty loaded in terms of star power.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, they've been saving Roman.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, saving Brock.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Cody's in it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, you know, like there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, all their big stars are in it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I mean, possibility of Chris Jericho, which we'll talk about.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, Obofami, they announced.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So this will be his first main roster officially set up because That was in their exhibition It's not an official record Really good debut for him by the way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is like the perfect match today.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, and and you know, and I while we'll get to I have a prediction involving him

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, let's talk about Drew and Sammy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Where are you sitting with this one?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Our, it's, I mean, based on what booking looks like from Friday, it looks like they are building a three way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So if it's a three way for the championship, then Sammy cannot hold the title.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And if it is a three way not for the championship, then you're having three of your biggest stars

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't sense that Sammy is coming out of the show with the title, unless it is a quick title change for him to lose maybe at a elimination chamber, but it doesn't, it doesn't feel like it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's almost like, you know, sometimes when they do this where it's time, like it's really time to pull the trigger on somebody, Brian Danielson in 2013 or whatever,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Not quite feeling it right now for Sammy like there's no like fan buzz for it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's like no Oh, this has to happen the fans are gonna will it to happen?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It is just the storyline right now to me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah Yeah, I mean, I think part of that might be I think a lot of the fans are probably just expecting it So it's not like they even feel like they have to fight for it

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[SPEAKER_00]: like they like with Roman and Sami where you know like the you know like all logic told you okay Sami's not going to win but he has to win as much as you know he's hot everything whereas here it's like as soon as they set this whole thing up where you had the format the four qualifying matches and then you had the

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, the, the, the, you know, the four way and Montreal, and then you have the, the title match in Saudi Arabia.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Everyone just assumed, oh, it's going to be, uh, it's going to be Sammy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I do think Sammy's going to win, um, and maybe he defends in the elimination chamber, perhaps.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, in the actual chamber match, she is one of the contestants, yeah, like defending the belt.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, it's possible.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I don't know what a, what a sucker if that is the case.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I mean, if he's told he has to.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but I mean, or, you know, it could be like they do a four way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh-huh.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, yeah, I guess they could do that at WrestleMania.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, not WrestleMania at at elimination chamber.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, you think I don't live a day.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You should be.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like I don't like your four way of mania and the thing is like, I mean, you got to remember this like we're almost three months away from WrestleMania.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So whatever they're setting up now may not be for WrestleMania.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I, you know, I don't know, but I like I'd like to see Cody and Fatu at WrestleMania right now, like got some match I want to see.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I like Drew.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, maybe you could do Drew and Sammy as a singles like, you know, and maybe a rematch, you know, I don't know, Cody and Fatu doesn't necessarily need to be for the belt.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just like I love that brawl they had and I love the dynamic between those two.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, I, that's the match I want to see.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What did you think about Cody's semi-male Karen promo?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought that Jacob was awesome.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Cody's always going to be good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just thought that that lean was very interesting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, it's kind of, you know, leaning into what I've been expecting, you know, I think Cody is doing like a slow burn heel turn.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, and, and this is part of it, um, you know, and there's little hints here and there, you know, that, and again, we still don't know who attacked Fatu.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, was it Cody?

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, was it, is people especially the Orton?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Was it somebody working with Cody?

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, that you will find out?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, I know that that thing was taped, and I don't know how many takes there were.

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[SPEAKER_01]: promo that aired was so in rhythm and so awesome and so perfect.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, I don't remember hearing this guy talk that much to where he could cut a promo like that, but I thought I'm like man, the student is a star.

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[SPEAKER_01]: How far can you take him with that gimmick?

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[SPEAKER_01]: They'll be interesting to see if the fans accepted or if they turn him baby face, which may or may not happen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think they already

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is he a baby face or are people do people just enjoy booing Cody?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he's a baby face because he churned on solo, like he's been a baby face ever since he split with solo, that's kind of how I've looked at him, okay, but he came out and that title match in the cage to attack Drew.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, Cody.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Denny attack Cody right yeah yeah well I think I think it's because in his mind it's one of those two guys that took him out and when you know at the time those were the two main suspects drew denied it Cody didn't answer the question

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[SPEAKER_00]: like give you if you go back and watch, Cody's not going to lie, but he did not answer the question about whether or not he attacked Fatto.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So if it turns out that Cody is the one that attacked him or is the one behind the attack, then Jacob Fatto is completely justified in his actions.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It would be kind of silly if Cody was the one who attacked it, but I think, well, I mean unless

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[SPEAKER_01]: Or if he's worth the world champion, what would be his reasoning to attack fat.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Take out a contender.

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[SPEAKER_01]: as a baby face champion.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, no, that's a good one to start.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You'll decide it to not go with the rock who wanted to steal his soul.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All that, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I mean, that's just the part, like there were no inklings of any of that happening.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, and that, and the inklings are there now, like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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[SPEAKER_00]: there's little things he's doing like it's not it's not blatant and it's but it's like it's a kind of thing that you can go back to and look at the bread crumbs you know if he does turn heel so yeah but it might mean you know and it's also like you know and WWE likes it is a lot of times two baby faces you know fighting each other that's not something WWE is afraid to do and just let the fans choose so

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so you think Sam is going to win the title.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I am not so sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I would like to see Sammy win.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want it to be window dressing or background noise for more important things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I want him to get his moment.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I want him to get his Mark Briscoe beating MJF moment or his Brian Danielson beating Batista and Randy Orton moment.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I want it to be able to sit there for a little while for it to actually be a big deal.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just don't sense that that is

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[SPEAKER_01]: right now the big deal though in Saudi Arabia, you might be right that that environment could be really good for it, but I'm just not feeling it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we'll see what we, you know, that they have had there, I'm sure they've had the plan all figured out by now, but yeah, okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So now, AJ and Gunther,

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[SPEAKER_01]: you have you have AJ of having a couple of really good matches of late.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He had your favorite match of the year last year with John Cena.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He had the really good match with Nakamura at Saturday's minute.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He had an okay match with punk on Rose pretty good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I like it more than Dave did.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll say that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, well, Dave is, Dave's kind of turning his nose up at some of these raw main events and, you know, I don't really

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[SPEAKER_00]: blame him was watching a lot of CMLL and and that's well clearly his favorite style right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's it's that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But it's also kind of what you said earlier, which is you don't really believe in some of the things that the company is saying or doing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so you get that AJ and not come were a match and which is which was a delightful surprise, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was just a delight.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was just a delight.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're like, uh,

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a half of half of me thinks that they're going to give us a two and a half star match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the other half is like hopeful that they're going to be able to do a really good match and we got that really good match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think for for this one, there was a little bit of a, I think I thought Brian said it best, which is, when you know what the finish is, if you're punk and AJ, you're not going to put on your five star

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[SPEAKER_01]: my whole thing with televised wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is why I don't like I don't get sucked into some of these matches because I know that they are just a vehicle for like the next big thing and they're telling this story in some ways.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, but okay, so good there's reasoning.

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[SPEAKER_01]: for wanting to end AJ's careers because otherwise why am I even having this match already beat this dude.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now what do you think happens in this match?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think I think AJ wins and I think I think you're getting two underdog baby face wins over the big bets on this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I yeah, I mean, and to be fair, I'm probably going to be wrong on one of them because the reason you just said, but I think they're going to do a finish playing off of the finish of the raw match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and maybe it'll be something like Gunther goes to tap, you know, thinking that the RF can't see it, but the RF actually sees it and stops the match and gives it to AJ.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I, I had brought that up on Rustings River Radio with Dave a couple of weeks ago.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's, and must be worth it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now I'm second guessing exactly that kind of finish.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And what I think is going to happen is because I think WWE knows that we're kind of on that wavelength.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I think what's going to happen is

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[SPEAKER_01]: Gunther is going to try and out smart AJ again.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's going to somehow distract the ref or the ref is going to get tied up in some way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then he's going to vigorously tap because he knows the ref can't see him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he knows that AJ is waiting for this tap.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so Gunther gets AJ to let go the hold.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then as the ref returns around,

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[SPEAKER_01]: like small package or roll up or something to wear.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Gunther, it's like this shooting grin on his face, like smiling and then AJ does a wrestling move to kind of outsmart the outsmarting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That is where I'm leaning towards this finish.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's better for AJ for sure, but I do think.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Don't you think that Gootther has to kick his ass after the match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because then you need another match down the road.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe at Mania.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would probably think maybe even later in the Mania.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like if AJ is going to do like not necessarily like a scene of retirement tour where he's like counting down the dates and everything, but basically just like a bucket list kind of thing where these are all the guys I want to have matches with this year and you know, we figure out ways to get them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, which very much like after Monday, like that's kind of part of the reason why I'm leaning towards AJ can't lose because I feel like He's got all these matches he wants to have and I don't think he's done like I don't think it was just not a moron punk.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I could be wrong.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But, um, you know, there's a lot of other guys that he's got history with.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, um, I'm sure he probably will like to have match with Sammy Zane.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't have they ever even had a match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't I can't think of one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, you know, and, uh, yeah, so I'm, I'm, uh, yeah, I, I, I, I, I'm still going to go with AJ winning.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know how I like your idea for sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So now let's talk about the women's Royal Rumble.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We have a couple of categories here that we said that we were going to talk about.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm going to write them down and we'll, we'll, uh,

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[SPEAKER_01]: woman of the event.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Who do you think is going to be the iron woman of this match, meaning the female superstar who lasts the longest in the Royal Roma does not have to win, but has to come in kind of early and stick around for a very long time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I am going to go with a surprise entrance and say it's going to be Kendall Grey.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that's a good one and that's kind of like rocks and last year look at it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's because my initial thought was rocks and but then she did it last year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So then I'm trying to think of somebody else who could do it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so for the iron one, Paul says, Kendall Gray, and you could also go so Ruka somebody like that would lift it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm going to go back to back rocks in again, and last year I predicted rocks in and I was right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just think.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's kind of the total package and not saying that Kendall Gray isn't fantastic, but I think they trust Roxanne to just be the like the long thread of this match and to know what to do and to know when to do it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Another one, who I think probably would want to do it because she'd been out for so long as is live Morgan.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I would not be surprised to see live live Morgan be that same person.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't remember.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, but yeah, yeah, I mean, that would work too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, she'll do a lot of like sitting in the corner, but yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so now the next one and if folks have some thoughts in the in the chat, then, you know, we'll throw them up and actually we have one from Fernando says he believes Chelsea Green could be

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[SPEAKER_01]: the the person who's in their longest.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I have Chelsea for another one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I see Chelsea doing the thing where and she may have done this one time, but where she does like almost getting eliminated like 15 times a hundred times.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, now the house of fire category for the women, which is somebody who comes in and then gets a lot of eliminations and is house on fire, eventually doesn't win the match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Historically, you can go back to

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[SPEAKER_01]: Diesel, I think, was kind of like one of the first ones, Austin had done that, but then Austin would actually win the match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Kane, he wouldn't count.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Kane.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Roman, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think Roman's first one, he dumped like double digit number of people or something like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Brock did so one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Remember where he died?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he was like 13 in a row and he was like, and he was leaning the ring out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He was first and he just kept eliminating everybody and then you got to finally, I can't remember who it was that finally came out and it was something another big guy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, so who do you have on the women's side for this?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I have the same pick as Fernando just made last legend.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that was my pick too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, okay, there we go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're on the same wavelength, a couple of other people that I had thought could fit this as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The person who I almost picked was Rock Hell.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I think they are

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[SPEAKER_01]: priming her to be a big deal, you know, I think her, I would give her, like a B or a B minus so far in her current WWE career, I do think there's opportunity for her to stand out even more, and this could be one of those ways if they decided that that was, that was the thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Jordan Grace is another possibility.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Jordan Grace is good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's just so tiny in height compared to some of these other women and she's not as jacked as she was but that can help in our royal rumble and oh I mean when you say that she's not as jacked I mean did you see her answer back down

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[SPEAKER_00]: I have not seen her that jacked in a long time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She actually has she actually she knows what season it is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I take that back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you know, and the her small stats are kind of works in a rumble because you get underneath the person and it helps you get them over the physics of it really work.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm still going with a stone cold Steve Austin also said his lower center of gravity because of his beer belly with that was the reason.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's why mocks doesn't do real rumbles anymore.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't have the beer belly anymore.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So the next one is the shocking elimination.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So something that is kind of a surprise.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sometimes this involves

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[SPEAKER_01]: uh... a wrestler coming in and uh... at an opportune time and i remember member when cactis jack took someone spot need to just ran after randy orton and randy or jumped over uh... and then historically i think the one that you mentioned was maven dropkick in the undertaker over the top rope that's like a shocking one what do you think for the women's match

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[SPEAKER_00]: uh... i'm gonna go with uh... uh... what's her name uh... beefab uh... knocking out uh... nyjax oh wow yeah and then you can do like a match on smack down the following week or night okay are they going to practice this

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if mine counts as an actual surprise in the same way that yours does or like a, oh my gosh, I can't believe they did that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But oh, he says, is she really injured?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is, by the way, is Dom still injured?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, I mean, officially, yes, but when he was out, you know, the time frame they gave kind of left it open that he could return at the rumble.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But so, this is part of my strategy so for him to not be injured.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so here's my kind of surprise.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they have not, they have not said that AJ Lee's in this match, have they know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think Becky does clean's house.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's just making fun of everybody.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, she's got three or four eliminations.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's all alone in the ring.

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[SPEAKER_01]: AJ's music plays.

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[SPEAKER_01]: they do a little bit of a thing and AJ takes her out of the match clean.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's a good one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I would have said Maxine and Becky, but I'm not even sure if that would work anymore, like, because they kind of played that one out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought of Maxine and Becky as one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Chelsano.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought of Maxine and Natalia, but I think it's surely because Natalia hasn't even really debuted this new version of Natalia.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Natalia, you could do something like this with let's say you have the

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[SPEAKER_00]: house, you know, where she just cleaned out, like you said, or, or, or, or last, this would work for last two.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then they're sitting there posing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then meanwhile, you forget that Chelsea green wasn't actually eliminated.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She is on the floor.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And she comes in and from behind and throws them over.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then she's, yeah, that would be good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that would be good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: For Nando also says, Kiana eliminating Charlotte would be his.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's a good one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Although I like again, I'm not even sure that qualifies enough set now, you know, given how hard you think they're going to push key out of James as hard as they can I think they really like her you know what like she she reminds me of and and I was thinking about this like she is what Brandy could have been if she if she was a wrestler like that character.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like I see a lot of similarities between her brandy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She's obviously a lot younger, but she'd better not go to WWE then.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, keep her away from awesome con.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, who do you think is going to be number 30?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Bianca Beller.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so this is where I had Chelsea.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I had Chelsea coming in with the big smile as she's, you know, number 30, she's only gonna work a little while to win the match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The hubris of that and then she, she gets kicked out really quickly and she's got that face, you know, that I can't believe it, that just happened face.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I was watching,

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[SPEAKER_01]: my wife rewatched all of shit's Creek.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah, you said you saw it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, never.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You never seen, okay, because there's a character, the daughter Alexis, there's a, I'm sure Kelsey Greene Kelsey, Chelsea Greene watched a lot of shit's Creek to develop her character.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It is

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[SPEAKER_01]: So now, for me, I don't know, we both did ours.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You have Bianca and Chelsea.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now the surprise return, this one's a little hard because, I mean, does NXT women count as a surprise?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I know Jayda Parker's not announced, but she should be in this match, because she's awesome.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Who would be a surprise for you in this match?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I mean, I already said Kendall, but I mean, again, I'm not sure if that necessarily qualifies.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think for that, and you know, you brought up AJ Lee and that not, I mean, I, I mean, I guess technically that would apply.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was thinking, Saraya, but then I thought I saw somewhere today.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She might be or page.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought she might be injured.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Somebody thought she might be injured.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'll take her off the table for that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: uh this is a tough one so real tough one um you know i'll just i'll just say no you don't know i'll go with leader

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, wow.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know why, but I mean, I think some of these names that we just that I just kind of ran through like are all people that people will be surprised at so, you know, you don't want to go Kelly Kelly or Michelle McCool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I mean Michelle McCool, I did that name did cross into my head and and Trish as well, but then I think she, I think the last time she'd appear, she kind of basically said this is it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, that's why I don't think we're going to see Trish again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know Trish turned 50 or she's turning 50 doesn't surprise me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm I'm turning 55 and like a week So she she still looks tremendous.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She looks great kind of gene like who's her her her mom she should

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[SPEAKER_01]: We should thank her, oh yeah, father for those genetics.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, my surprise.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've no inside information.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was just a guess.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think we're going to get a little bit of twin magic here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, and Nicky Bella and Bri Bella kind of do a little thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I would have liked it better as baby faces because I think Bree is better as a baby face than she is as a heel, but since Nicky is already heel, I figure if they're going to do anything, they she can come in as a heel, but there's something Nicky needs something for this act she needs some sort of, can I change it by the deck?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Brick Baker.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that'd be insane.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The internet might break.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's my pick.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Perfect.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I, I, I, you know what the funny thing is?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is I answered this question on the F or W board?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think I had to break.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I just forgot about it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, but wait, wait a second here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Wood?

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[SPEAKER_01]: that crowd and no Brit baker probably not because the where you do the Brit if you have you have Brit baker in your plans you do that in her hometown or Orlando

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sure, yeah, yeah, or a Jacksonville in Jacksonville.

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[SPEAKER_00]: A very wrestling savvy crowd.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like MSG would get it, you know, Chicago would get it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, Toronto would get it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you're talking about breaking the internet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that would drive so many, like so many people would go insane if that would.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but yeah, I like that one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I almost don't even want to think about some of the breakdowns that would be happening.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, I don't think we're ever going to see here in a W again, but I'm not positive.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There was a time when I was positive we're going to see a W W again, and now I'm not even sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, you know, but if you're going to do it, it's probably going to happen at a time when we'd least expect it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's why I'm throwing it out there now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is where

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[SPEAKER_01]: Tony Khan is very strategic.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's like, if she never wrestles for me again, her contract never ends because I just keep adding time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But he's a painter.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's great for her.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm assuming your winner is Bianca.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Bianca's my winner as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: although my number 30 men's pick will not be my winner pick.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I will say that right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I am going Bianca as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm trying to think of who else I would have liked to see when the match live.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I see, I know a lot of people want live to win the match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's, I think it's a totally strong pick.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if I want to see live win.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I would love to see Asuka, but Asuka's kind of been there done that with some fans.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They probably wouldn't be as...

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[SPEAKER_01]: 100% for I mean you can always have rea or eo win like they're over like crazy like both of them are just over in a crazy way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I think I it's I would love to see Bianca Fernando says that he believes live is winning.

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[SPEAKER_00]: My final four is reo, eo, live, and Bianca.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Real and eo.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You mean, yeah, sorry.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sorry.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that you, you should have said that you thought Rio was going to all right, so that then we'd get Rio and Rio and she'd have to change your name.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, it's in the age.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She spends with the age.

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[SPEAKER_01]: True.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so there you go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we both have Bianca Beller winning.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think we need to get I don't know if it's going to be this year But it's got to be soon.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We need that Bianca and reapply well on what oh, yeah, yeah, it's got to happen and and there's a There's a horsewoman that she hasn't is it it's is it Bailey?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think she's beaten all the other horse women at WrestleMania So at some point we need Bianca and Bailey too, but I'd almost feels like the timing is never going to work for that one Now not for WrestleMania anyways

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's the same thing with the men here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So who do you think is going to be the iron man of this show for earth of this rumble match Carmelohase.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that's great one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he's going to come in number one and still be there at number 30, but you know, like he won't be in the final four, but he'll be there long time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, so he's going to do like the hide note and call that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, he can come in at one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and go all the way into the end and then lose.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think that would be great for him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess the only thing is, you know, how hurt is he still?

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[SPEAKER_01]: My hope is that they just decided to keep him off TV, so that he could come back here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was like a shoulder injury or something, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hopefully that wasn't too bad.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And in Royal Rumble, I mean, you don't have to work that hard to last a long time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, nope, though, though, you know, they'll have some spots for him and he can do a lot of the heal stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, all right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What about the house of house of fire, house on fire, um, with the men, someone who dumps a lot of people out before losing, forgetting getting out of there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, I'm going to go with Brock Lesnar.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that's an easy one, but he immediately after dumping on all those people.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's going to get eliminated by Oberfemi.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Interesting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so that's a two-part prediction.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, I am this one is hard because

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[SPEAKER_01]: the only way this thing can happen is if I don't pick Braunbreaker to win, because if he's going to win this row of rumble, then he can't also be the house of fire.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because, you know, you have to kind of lose to be the house of fire guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I guess I can't pick Braun because I still think he's going to win this mad really.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Wow.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's like this whole raw angle with, you know, with pierced like just sucking up and backing down and I don't know, there's something there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I, okay, so I mean, we're not I shouldn't get ahead of it yet, but.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to see Roman when this match because this dude has not been on TV, he has no beef, he has no reason to do anything.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think it's, I think it's so lazy the way that they've mentioned him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now he could be on SmackDown and do something and tell us why he's still here or whatever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I just don't want to see him win if he's, if he's just like,

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[SPEAKER_01]: going to go from not being on television to showing up for what match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's it's kind of lame to do it that way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And similar with Brock Lesnar, but your story for Brock Lesnar would be perfect.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and then and then obviously be doing Open Brock at WrestleMania, which I think I predicted

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, you know, where we did a prediction show at the beginning of the year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think I, I mentioned that as a mania point for Brock.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm stuck in the aisle.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll save brawn because I think I'm going to have him as my winner and I'll go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll go over fit me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that's, that's a solid pick.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's really, it's really those two.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, are the ones that would be.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Bronson Reed is Fernando's pick.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's a good one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I just don't see him doing that, but it's possible.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So next is the the shocking elimination on the men's side.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And for that one, I'll go with

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[SPEAKER_00]: Wow.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they have actually been working together on the process, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because I don't think bronze is going to win and I have a pick for the rumble and it's not bronze.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm going to go with Javan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was playing between Javan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was going to be Javan and it was either him eliminating Bronn or Ober.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'll go with Bronn because because of the reason you just said plus I think that helps elevate Javan.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, I have a

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know how much of a surprise this is, though.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think the crowd would be shocked to see it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I have Jacob Fattu eliminating Cody clean at all.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I have them eliminating each other.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That could happen as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think at some point they're just going to be brawl in and they'll just both go over the top together.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I kind of have this vision of Fattu eliminating Cody.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and him like staring like pointing at him and staring at him and Cody like trying to get back in the ring and so upset kind of like the Hogan suggested this thing from the 92 rubble though I don't think I would have I don't know if I would have him pool Jacob over and eliminate Jacob but you could do something like a Logan Paul coming up from behind and throwing throwing Jacob out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then they brawl all the way to the back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, something like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was thinking of something like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I do like the idea of him doing it clean because that keeps that really protects Jacob fat to a lot and it also can play into that potential code.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He'll turn so I like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, do we have the same surprise here for the men.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, no, well, I mean, my surprise.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to save my surprise.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, because, you know, also the person you have winning.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, no, my surprise is going to evil.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, evil at number 13.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But do you think about Dave keep comparing him to Rusev evil?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you haven't been hearing those compare.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I, well, yeah, just that, you know, that somebody, like a powerhouse, they're not going to do anything with, you know, I could see that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, I don't really, like, I, I don't, I agree with Dave that I don't see a fit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've seen people say, oh, he's perfect for WWE.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, you clearly don't watch WWE.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, if you think that he's a perfect fit for WWE, because I don't see anything.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Does this speak in English?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I mean, you know, like, I don't know what you do with him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like people say the white sex, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That doesn't fit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, you know, maybe they do some sort of a, you know, weird, new Japan kind of faction with him in Nakamura and, you know, Tomatong or something.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, but I don't know where he fits in WWE.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I mean, certainly they could debut him here and and, you know, and it would be a nice surprise for people.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Although, again, I don't think people, I don't think people inside of your baby are going to have a clue.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is where my idea of how meaningful this is kind of, I'm unsure because I'm not sure if doing it in front of this crowd is the right thing though.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're also doing it for TV and a lot of people are going to watch this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I imagine this would be the highest streamed ESPN PLE so far.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's, it's in more places now, since it started, plus this is the big one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, casual fans who, you know, they're going to realize that they have this app because they have the right cable thing and they're like, oh, the real rumble.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I, yeah, I haven't seen this in a while.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, like they do on peacock.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I had Jericho down for this one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I may have overthought it because of the Saudi Arabia thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was thinking, how would Jericho want to come back?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And where is RAW on Monday?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, Philly, because they're doing a Philly street fight.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't know Philly's the right place either.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think of Jericho, and I think of, he's going to be really smart about his return.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, I think a lot of people expect him to return the Roman.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But any very well could, I would put him as my, uh, as my 30th guy here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, okay, so I have him as my 30th as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, yeah, that was where I have him not necessarily as a surprise.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I mean, he would be a surprise, but yeah, I have him as my 30th.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So my surprise in my 30, you're going to be the same person, but it's not going to be Jericho because I just kind of overthought it and I think he's going to make his comeback, maybe at the chamber, where's the chamber this year?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Chicago.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so that would be a little bit more towards the audience.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Chicago is where he debuted in WWE first time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm overthinking it, but I'm going Hobbes for 30 if Hobbes for the surprise.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hobbes also could it could be, you know, if he came in earlier, he could be the houseifier pick.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the house guy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I like that pick a lot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, and then that tells people, hey, this is a guy to pay attention to.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, all right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So now, what do you think is it when

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, I almost changed it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I had a pick in my head and I, I was pretty solid on it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I, as you were talking and you mentioned, why you didn't want this person to win, I was trying to think of another option.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I mean, this is, that's just taking with Roman, but, but I think there's a strong possibility.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It could be Seth Rollins.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, but I am, I mean, someone asked him about the role rumble, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Someone asked him when he, if he was going to make it, yeah, he, so wasn't there something where, uh, somebody texted me and they sent me the video and I'm not, you know, me, I'm not going to watch a video.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Somebody sends me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, and, but apparently it was something on ESPN where he says they gave away that Seth Rollins is going to be at the role rumble.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, he's going to be at the Royal Rumble because Becky's there, but whether or not he's going to be in the Royal Rumble is another question, but I think there's a good possibility of he wins, but the only problem is I'm thinking like who would he wrestle?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, if he was, you know, it could be punk, but then like they're setting up other stuff for punk and and they've done punk and Rollins before.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think it's me Roman.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's me Roman and punk at Mania, um, you know, which is a match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And make sure if you think back like to the raw after Mania last year, I mean, that's the match that they set up.

45:31.435 --> 45:41.482
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, now obviously there's been a lot of twists and turns along the way, but I think clearly that was the idea year ago that that they were going to be doing this match on this day.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So whether or not they actually do it that remains to be seen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, I'm it makes a whole lot of sense.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just don't like the presentation of bringing Roman No, it just I totally agree with you and and I saw somebody our discord said, you know, I hope he just kind of doesn't do anything important at this year's Mania wrestles rock next year and then says bye

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, you know, I don't think that, you know, I, that's coming from somebody that I don't think is a big W fan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think I, you know, if I'm a fan, I want Roman around as long as possible, even if it is just four or five appearances a year, because it always feels bigger when he's around.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, for sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he's really good at what he does very good at what he does.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's so athletically talented.

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[SPEAKER_00]: People don't give him credit for how athletically talented he is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to go a brown breaker, but let's go through the people who have been announced so far.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The rumble.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And there's going to be more people who, you know, like rent right now, Randy Orton is not on the list.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I got to imagine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're not going to be in the rumble.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, they're full.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't know if there's a spot for him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's so stupid.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Gosh, I, there was an easy way out of that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All he had to say was we were putting together the final participants for the Royal Rumble and you had a world title match last week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we didn't want, you know, we just didn't want to just say the loser of your match with punk is going to be in the Rumble.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we gave this box somebody else.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's all they have to say.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Or.

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[SPEAKER_01]: they could just say dude you're one of the best wrestlers we have of course you're in the wrong.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Why would you take him out?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then what if like he's going to attack somebody on the way to the ring and enter like I'm almost positive at that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But somebody mentioned in the chat like, why is Rekellen the real robot?

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[SPEAKER_01]: She gets her title shot successfully.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's so stupid.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, different GM.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, no, that's the same GM.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What are those?

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[SPEAKER_01]: They wanted the same one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So let me go through the little some men the men's match and and you know, give me your thoughts on yay or nay could possibly not necessarily the favorite way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Cody Rhodes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, of course.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's got a shot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's probably not going to win.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I don't think three years ago.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Good luck with that as you said.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's got a good, I think he's got a really good shot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, J.O.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So no, no, he got his last year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Ray Mysterio, no, Dragon Lee, no, Penta, no, though Penta should have a really good showing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, Penta could be, and it could be your Iron Man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I would say Iron Man, but I don't think that dude wants to work that long.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, he's, he's a work smarter.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He could be the guy that comes in early and, and last a while, and then he is eliminated in the flurry by Brock.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Or he is announced as number one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: walks down the ring side and he just takes like 20 minutes walking down the ring side like and he's not even officially in the match it because he's he's doing his walk down the aisle and then he comes in mid or he could come in and and wrestle for a while and take off his mask and baller.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He could.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The little bit of a different build though.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just a touch.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, Roman Reigns.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, we talked about Roman Solusico and no.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What about Jacob Fattu?

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[SPEAKER_00]: uh... i mean i don't i don't think like i don't think he's winning but i think he's gonna be he should be there for a long time and i mean he's definitely in k-fade he's definitely got he should have a big chance but i don't think so i don't think he's gonna win but i think if they'd they'd do this thing sometimes where

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[SPEAKER_00]: They kind of rebook things at the end because they think some people know a little bit too much and you could you could say, hey, let's let's let's give this I mean the thing like last year there's not a single person on earth that pick J you so mm hmm so we all I mean at the end they were like, oh John, see this is going to win cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, let me lost.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, well, I mean, there was the final four I'm like while there's three these guys that can win and the guys that lost the guy that won was not one of those four.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, uh, Braunbreaker definitely could win.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, Logan Paul.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I don't think so.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Bronson Reed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, even less than Logan Paul.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Austin theory.

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[SPEAKER_00]: God.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he should be shouldn't be in it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Should be should be Finn.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Javan.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, though.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think we both expect him to have a pretty good showing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and you know, the one thing we didn't mention is Javan could do all of those coffee kinks and John Morrison, like spots of like crazy athleticism and hopping on one foot and all that stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Obafemi.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, if you want to make a splash, yeah, like I would say, he's he's got a better chance and a lot of the people he mentioned, but I, you know, I wouldn't necessarily put him in like the top five, but that's it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's that's a way to like, like really cement somebody.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And those are all the people that Wikipedia has.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so there's I think there's only like 17.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So there's 13 spots, whomever, you know, Brock Lesnar, we didn't mention him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He could he's probably not winning.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think Dave reported that he's either like he's on the show, whether or not he's in the rumble.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, obviously he's probably in the rumble.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's on the show, but he's definitely on the show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm trying to think of another possible surprise.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, and is he heard, is he?

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I don't think so.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he just got, I mean, in story line he's heard, but yeah, he should have a pretty good showing because he, he had, yeah, I think he had a pretty good year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Dom wasn't on that list, so I, you know, Cardona, Cardona should be in the match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They'll probably have a kit Wilson spot if they want to do, oh, they got it just for the entrance.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That crowd say love that entrance.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They could do the same thing with Joe Hendry that they that they Yeah, Joe Hendry's another one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's got to be in it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah All right, so on a scale of one to ten for royal rumbles like think of yeah like for me

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[SPEAKER_01]: 1992 would have been a 10.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was so fired up for that Roya Rumble.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Was that the air flare one?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, me too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We went and hogin and we went to see that at a Chinese food restaurant.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was airing it because we they were how did they air it was they were they airing it legally or it was I probably illegally could it was it was yeah, it was like it was a satellite dish because we didn't have paper view in Canada then

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, so yeah, it would have been and they charged it was like 15 bucks and you got all you can eat buffet and you got two that's a great deal.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I mean, now that would be like 50.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you know, because we're talking 33 years ago 34 years ago.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, was that was that is it possible that that was the very first super China buffet day possible.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it was just me and my buddy Doug who made listen to this, um, yeah, so that's, yeah, that's, uh, and we were cheering for a lot of the whole time and people, yeah, it's like we were nuts, that was like the best book, one of the best book matches of all time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, yeah, so if that's a 10, um, seven, maybe six and a half, six and a half, seven.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know the problem with this show now, though, is having two rumble benches, two rumble matches, the afternoon, I'm still trying to figure out how I'm going to watch this because I'm supposed to go over to my friend's place to watch it and we said we're going to stay off the internet and watch it like it's live and initially we were planning for like four o'clock our time, it's starting at one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But my daughter has swimming lessons and then my wife wants to see a movie after the swimming class.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What is your wife want to see?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She just wants to go out and see a movie.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She doesn't even have a clue what's playing the theater.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, house made?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like literally have no idea.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like Sidney Swaney in the house made?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think she knows who Sidney Swaney is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, you know who's the next one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not going to say no to that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but no, like so it's just she wants to go out and we haven't seen a movie on time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe Mercy with Chris Pratt.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, is that the one, is that's not the, no that, uh, yeah, it's obviously a comedy, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I think it's like an action.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, if it's an action movie, she'll want to see it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But no, like so we she just wants to go out and see a movie.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So now that takes us to probably like six o'clock if we see a late afternoon.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So then I'm watching it at the normal paper view window.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But then I got to come home and watch you see.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Wait, did you get tagged in to doing UFC coverage on Wrestling Observer Radio?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I assume that was doing it, but I don't know because I think I'm off of that show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, then because so the reason is because wife and I are going to go see the whiz on our local

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[SPEAKER_01]: Broadway event.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I, I, I won't be home until like 10 o'clock.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I might be watching UFC way late.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I should find out then because if that's the case, I don't make things a lot easier.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Then I'm not even going to worry about UFC.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, well, so it'll be, it's going to be Brian and Dave more than likely Saturday night talking rumble.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then I think UFC, I told Dave, I could go Sunday if you wanted to go Sunday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I would be fully prepared for Sunday, but I don't think he wants

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll ask Brian then, like if he wants to, if he wants me to come on later, I kind of had fun doing the whole show last time, but I got a lot of good feedback about it too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was fun show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but that's a lot of work.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If I knew I was going to do it, I would have paid more attention to collision.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, so yeah, I'm fired up and a lot of it is hanging out with my buddy and his kid and his kid's friend, little group of us that watches, but

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but but also the show, like, you know, I'm really interested in the two non royal rumble matches.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Probably the women's matches, like the least interested, but I'm still interested in it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just, you know, I don't.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't really care as much.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm, I, I, I'm not sad.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't care about the women's division.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's a lot of, a lot of the characters.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm really into right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But just the idea of like which one's going to win.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't, I mean, the champions are Jayden Stephanie, and I just, I'm not really intrigued to see anybody against those two.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's the problem.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, if the belts were on, say, Rhea and Becky would, yeah, Strea, Becky, Bianca, you know, Eo, Oscar, you know, like there's a lot of them I'm really into.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think I'm on about a six and a half myself.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think the thing that is lacking a little bit, but some may think that this is to the benefit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We really do not know where Rosalina is going right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Not like there have been years in the past where we're like, we know where every single main program is going and we don't know anything right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that may be a positive.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But to me, like knowing that, you know, who's the one that's going to say, I'm going to win the role of Rumble.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm going to win the world title, blah, blah, blah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, that whole story, there's nothing going on in that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, and the problem is, too, is whoever wins, that's not even necessarily the main event.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, they're going to say it's the main event.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I mean, the only way it's the main event is if a main event or wins it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, if, you know, even if Braun Breaker wins the role of Rumble, I don't think that necessarily means he's in the main event.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, you know, it really depends on who he's wrestling and, you know, and certainly if, you know, like live Morgan, any woman, like, there are years when a women's match could headline rain, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This isn't one of those years.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I don't think unless somehow we end up with Bianca and Rio, they'd have a lot of work to do to get there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I could, like, that's a big enough match that I think it would have enough interest to headline one night of WrestleMania.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I do think I'll go on record as saying this, I think next year, one of the main events of the two nights of media in Saudi will be a women's match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think they're going to do that on purpose.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And maybe they'll even let them not wear catsuits.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It feels like the timing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I found it interesting that even in the the graphics that they put up for the women's match, they were in their catsuits.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Did you notice that?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, whatever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, shout out to Fernando.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I saw Lady B in here for a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Kevin, a bra you was hanging out with us.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if I've seen Kevin in here before.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Shout out to Kevin.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They have the name looks vaguely familiar.

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[SPEAKER_01]: John's there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just saw George war hero 99 as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Create out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, and Creehead and John as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so we will, we'll see what happens.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I know that on a Saturday afternoon, I believe I'll be back with Kila and we'll recap the rumble.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Pretty, you know, maybe like 20 or 30 minutes after it's over.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we'll be back doing our acoustic guitar at the rap.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm listening to that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll finish that tonight.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they got their predictions in last night on the rap, and then you'll be back Wednesday night with the dynamite shoot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, what is the main event for dynamite, by the way?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I probably swirv and, uh, on Droughty, on Droughty.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that'll be really good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and I'm also doing, uh, shake them rope, so Jeff this week on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, that's yeah, so I'm filling in for, uh, Rob.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we're recording that on Droughty.

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[SPEAKER_01]: John Jeff's co-host Rob's he's really good host.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, he's only I mean I've I've only I like I see is some of the clips and and those guys are like the OGs are like they've been doing that show I mean Rob took years off, but they were doing that show when like not a lot of people are doing podcasts.

01:00:00.061 --> 01:00:05.091
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so yeah, it's cool Rob's like a pro Rob comes off like a like a radio guy.

01:00:05.071 --> 01:00:07.115
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's what that's what it reminded me of.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like he's got the rhythm down.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's got the spiel down.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's not going to go on with Jeff because Jeff's actually the host.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that oh, no way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:00:16.014 --> 01:00:17.858
[SPEAKER_01]: So I just get to answer questions.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can get to riff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, a little bit kind of like here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, so yeah, so then and then Jeremy and Steven will be on Thursday with strong style.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, that'll be it from here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So for Paul, I am WG.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Thanks to everyone who is hanging out in the chat.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We will see you when we see you piece out.