AEW First Anniversary Show: Moxley Responds to Jericho's Offer | The Dynamite Show (Rewind)

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[SPEAKER_04]: Dynamo!

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hey everybody, it's the dynamite show rewind.

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[SPEAKER_01]: with Paul Fontaine, a Jeff Hawkins here on the Flight Game Media YouTube channel.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to thank you all for joining us here on Fourth of July Eve.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you're listening on the audio feed, I believe you'll be listening to us on Monday morning.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So thank you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I hope you had a great long weekend for those in the United States.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Jeff, we are here for our second straight night to recap an episode of AWS Dynamite.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Only this one is from five and a half years ago.

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[SPEAKER_01]: January, eight, twenty, twenty.

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[SPEAKER_01]: which was now they called it the anniversary show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not exactly sure why.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because Dynamite started in October.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Their first show was in May.

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[SPEAKER_01]: When was the announcement?

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[SPEAKER_01]: The announcement was on January first.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so that's all it could have been that, but they actually had a show on January first and there was some confusion over this because my memories were that they went dark for two straight weeks.

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[SPEAKER_03]: One of our loyal listeners also hold on hold on hold on I thought that they officially became an AEW company.

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[SPEAKER_01]: after the January fourth show in Tokyo that could be that could be yeah you might be right so then if that if that's the case it would be like January fourth and this would have been the next episode after that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that makes sense.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I should have just looked at my ratings chart because I got it up here and yeah there's only the one dark week December twenty fifth twenty nineteen is the only weeks in Steinemite started that they did not air a show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They were back on January first and then this was January the January first episode I think may have been taped and that might have been the confusion because it aired it was that from Daily's place So they may have taped that one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They may not have done it live on New Year's Eve or New Year's Day I don't think it matters.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think the anniversary has to do with the AEW became a company

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, fair enough.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, but I'm just saying, like in terms of whether or not there was a, because I think what was told to us, this was the first live episode since the last one we reviewed, which was December, eighteenth, which, I mean, it's just a coincidence.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not significant in any way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But this was, I mean, the funny thing is, is there's this narrative out there that this show was a reset.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Tony took over and there were too many cooks in the kitchen and they changed direction and all this stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And as I'm watching the show, kind of seemed like pretty much a continuation of what we saw from the December eighteen show, more or less, and you're nodding.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I didn't say it was an AEW show.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I didn't see any hard reset, but compared to the other one we watched.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, it's way better.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, it's better, but it's not.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, there's no like real narrative shift or there's no.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I mean, we still had the dark order.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We still had the nightmare collective way too much nightmare collective.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And there was a serious negative.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but I'm a brandy apologist and we'll talk about her in a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Here was my framing question for you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Who's better off now than they were at this time?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, we're talking for people.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so, and we're talking this specific show or just this timeframe.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This specific show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, let me have a look and remind myself who is on it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But off the top of my head.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Moxley.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You think Moxley is better off now?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Then he was five years ago.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, well, you're going to make a man, maybe.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And sounds like you don't agree.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't agree with that at all.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think Hangman here was this was the beginning of the downturn for him.

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[SPEAKER_03]: This whole clip with the elite.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've got the list up here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, while you handle this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Statliners down.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Never mind.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Statliners down.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: God, pentagon, because you got it here.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I said, I just want to make more.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, uh, kind of almost want to see Jack Perry for the same reason Mike Santana, because he's out of there.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, isn't TNA.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, he's getting some love on NXT, but I, let me tell you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I also, I'll all die in a moxie Hill, but other than that, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Cody.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, Cody, of course.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Cody, Penta M. J. F. I think is better off than he was five years ago.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't think he is as hot as he could have been.

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[SPEAKER_03]: What's he on the show?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, he was.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he did.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He cut that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, cut that quick promo using the middle of the Cody.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's true.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I actually, you know, this is going to be a strange pick by the Dustin.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, I was going to say Dustin because he has such he has almost an unbreakable aura at this point.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And he brings such credibility to whatever match or feudies in that I think he's better off.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Now then, I mean, he doesn't have to prove himself as the aging legend as he was in these early days kind of, but those are my four.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think everybody else is worse off.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think Moxley is worse off.

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[SPEAKER_01]: When you, you want another thing about this was when you, when you looked at, I'm, okay, my memories told me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The private party beat the young bucks on that second episode.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was a big upset.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the memories tell me that's the best math private party ever had until they beat the bucks again in one of the titles like last year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And basically it was all downhill for private party from there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was what my memories told me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I watched, uh, I've been watching the old Dynamites I started episode one and I got, I mean, to the fifth episode now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I also saw private party have a match with the lucha bros that Dave Meltzer said was the best match in the history of Dynamite to that point, including the box match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it was better than the box match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They had a match on this show with Hangman and Kenny Omega that I thought was really good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then looked really good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they looked really good in it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And we're crispy.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We're doing double team offensive.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We're flashy and they were over.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What happened to those guys?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they were over.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And when you what happened to them was Matt Hardy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: When when when I was watching this at the time, another thing in my memory is

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[SPEAKER_01]: At the same time, street profits were on NXT and they were kind of floundering.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I remember thinking, man, in five years, street parties going to be one of the best tag teams in this business, or sorry, private parties going to be one of the best tag teams in this business and street parties probably going to be out of wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was, that was what I was thinking at the time.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I was thinking that Montez was going to be a world champion.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then they should they should break them off even five years ago.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I would say maybe three years ago.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I might have thought that, but I was that was very high on Montez Ford early early.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, injuries didn't help private party.

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[SPEAKER_01]: John's got a point.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That is true.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That is right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Garcia, Maria Garcia wasn't even there yet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I would say the peak of Daniel Garcia was when he beat Brian Danielson.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and that was like twenty two hit.

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[SPEAKER_03]: No, his peak was when Jericho and Daniels that were fighting behind the scenes to get them in there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then they were doing the thing where where where Garcia didn't want to be in the group.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they were like teasing him, leaving.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Danielson was trying to convince him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If they had pulled the trigger at that point, if he had left Jericho at that point, I think he might have ended up being a big star.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like Garcia's in an okay place for him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's young.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's out of title.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He's not on the show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's not on the show, correct.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, the people on the show, yeah, there's not a lot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: One thing I noticed as well was,

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[SPEAKER_01]: They, so the last time we watched, they were airing, they put up dark results.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They didn't do that this time, but they are doing matches on dark.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That matter.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, you know, like they're doing like number one contender matches on dark.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're, they're setting up fews on dark and, and dark was kind of must see at the time in a way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like if you really wanted to follow what was going on, you kind of had to watch dark.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And yeah, and they that they were doing some other interesting things.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if they were good or bad because it's one of those things where it's like AEW wanted to be the company that honored.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Pro wrestling history, but they'd also shove it off to dark as opposed to it to get on dynamite because we need our bangers on this show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like they had, uh, didn't they have like David Crockett call a show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they did have Dave Brown.

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[SPEAKER_03]: They had Dave Brown on this other dark.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I was saying about looking it up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no, okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, you know what, they had him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So he was on the dynamite.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just watched it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, like episode five.

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[SPEAKER_03]: No, he was on this dynamite.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This dynamite.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: See, I'm getting the mixed up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he was on this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just stop that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sorry.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I got this episode.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Paul, it's hard because I watched them both like within twenty four hours of each other.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So like my memories are completed.

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[SPEAKER_03]: No, stop this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know I know I yeah with that that's part of the reason we were late.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, but it's one of those things where it's like, yes, we added the legends you need to watch our internet YouTube show because we can't possibly just do the thank you for thirty seconds on on dynamite.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and Fernando thinks Dark should still be around his developmental.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, my instant answer to that is always it is, it's just called ROH now and it's behind a paywall, but I actually do think they should still have Dark, like, you know, give these people a chance to wrestle, even if they means using Daily's place and tape in like three months at a time or something like that, like, just get these guys some work.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't because Tony missed the point of having Dark and Dark elevation.

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[SPEAKER_03]: which was to build people.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And instead he just put matches in there.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And that's not the point of having a developmental system.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's doing everything in pro wrestling, including promos and things like that and angles.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're kind of right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, they did there were times.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like remember that dentist's office thing they did on dark and yes, they had a few decent things on dark.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not saying everything on dark was bad.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But Tony's thing was, well, we're just going to give them reps and

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[SPEAKER_03]: you know, and it's like, well, okay, fine.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And then they do the thing, oh, he won five matches on dark.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Let's put him on dynamite to lose to somebody decent.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And you're just like, well, then why'd we invest all that time in the wins on dark?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, yeah, that, well, we'll talk, you know, as we go through here, we open, I want to make a point here on the opening.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Because it's relevant to something that happened today.

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[SPEAKER_03]: As you know, I do a show for voices of wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And my buddy Fred came out with an article today on on voices of wrestling about how people need to stop complaining about about the video packages because there's no such thing as these casual fans that you're trying to recruit.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, my God.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I am here to, and look, I disagree with Fred, but I'm not gonna, you know, it's one of those things where it's like, I understand why the sickos don't want video packages, but I loved this video package that recapped everything that happened last week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right, because last week was January first.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right, I'll be a lot of people at Miss That Show.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Even though the rating was actually pretty good, but and they had a decent angle on there with Jericho in the car and I also in point notes.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I love that the inner circle had an LLC.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I just find that funny.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I find corporations and wrestling funny.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like, uh, like the one where you can they got an ironclad contract and you can get out unless you lose a match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, we saw, we saw, we saw, totally blanched enterprises to the embassy and now they're the mogul embassy.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Or, or remember when, uh, hero mad suit about the horseman.

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[SPEAKER_01]: or the, you know, the, the, the, the hearties and the, the, what was it the hearty, hearty moguls or something like that?

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[SPEAKER_03]: No, hearties and, and, and, and on dry days, crew.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right on dry day family office.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's kind of, it's just, it's just a stupid thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Just like even even Jericho saying, I'll give you forty nine percent of the LLC, meaning he maintains controlling interest.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's such a cool flaky heel move.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I lap at the simplicity of wrestling and where it gets into it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And

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[SPEAKER_01]: Another goofy thing on the show that I loved.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Did you catch the value of MJF's ring that he had won?

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[SPEAKER_03]: It was like, and two dollars.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's forty five thousand and two dollars.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And two dollars because you know, you had added the sales tax or something in there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm thinking.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm thinking it was actually two dollars and the forty five thousand part is the work.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You got like a cubic zirconium ring.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That's a kind of fake stuff that makes wrestling fun.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I love that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And yeah, I love transferring heat's common here rent out a studio a few times a week do multiple tapings and let someone else book it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, I would we went into the pandemic.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I was praying for a studio wrestling show where guys could do

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[SPEAKER_03]: Thirty-second squash matches in ninety-second promos.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That's all you need to build a decent wrestling company and then you build the big matches for your big cards and that's where you're right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's where you're right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That'll tell you that you're old and nobody.

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[SPEAKER_03]: No, I know and I get that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Look, I totally get that I go against

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[SPEAKER_03]: a lot of things and voices of wrestling people believe and especially their fans and their discord who don't love me at all but it's one of those things where it's like you move forward by going backwards sometimes and you realize that the base that this is still a television product and I I sympathize with the people go I just watch wrestling to watch bangers and watch wrestling but again you're not

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[SPEAKER_03]: You're not growing that way, really.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You're kind of it might be modern.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But doesn't mean it's interesting.

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[SPEAKER_03]: After a while, you realize good wrestling is just really good choreography.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and then some of you have better than others.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But if you have some emotion, but don't have any emotion behind in it, it's just moves.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Then people are like, the big argument I had this week was about last week and that, you know, that thing with, with Swerv, where he was banned from the building and didn't make the save.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I said, the announced should have told us and

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was all, you know, like, none of you.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you need to be scared at the time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But then there's another argument, too, is like, they don't want to make it obvious.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They don't want to make it obvious.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They want the viewer to question it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And my point was, well, if they want the viewer to question it, don't do the angle with the books.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Less is more.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Abswerve just not come out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we don't know why he didn't come out.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, yeah, but then they didn't bring it up the next week either.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it might not even happen.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's not something that they want people to put that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That's crap that people do that's the thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They got on the edge.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Making up stories in their head to make things that don't make sense makes sense.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But I love this video video bag.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was awesome.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That they had day brown in the booth.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Now they didn't let Dave do anything because Jim Ross was on his

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[SPEAKER_03]: I need to assert myself in this booth that I'm still relevant type.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think he was starting to feel like Tony was overtaken him and he was trying to, he was like, what's the word?

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's like, he was like the dog.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He was right hard.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He was like the dog, like Mark and his territory.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But I mean, it's Tony was getting praised because Tony was excited about watching the product.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But that didn't necessarily mean that Jim Ross was doing a bad job, but it was, but Jim Ross was doing a subpar job and Excalibur would blow him away every time he took over play by play of a match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, we open with Hangman and Kenny against private party and the story wise that Hangman and Kenny

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[SPEAKER_01]: are like top contenders, the tag team titles, they're part of the elite, but they don't really get along.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And this would kind of take us right through, twenty, twenty, really this storyline.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, but yeah, private party was, you know, the up and coming team, they had beaten the bucks, but then they lost to the luchibros and the tournament.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then they had this match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And as you mentioned, like they were crisp, they were good, they were over, they had a great match with

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[SPEAKER_01]: again with, you know, Kenny and Hangman before Hangman, they did finally a buckshot V trigger combo and then Kenny hit the one-winged angel for the pin over, I think it was Quinn.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Quinn.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, it was very good match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Again, private party was over his hell and obviously Kenny and well, like you said, Kenny and Hangman, like the story was about Kenny and Hangman, but you said,

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[SPEAKER_01]: at the start of the show like hangman was starting to lose it and I think that the idea here was like this was eventually Kenny was going to win the world title.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, you know, like I think he did by the end of the year.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And then he turned heel though.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, those things where it was just like there was it was a complete red herring to have the the rift.

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[SPEAKER_03]: where it seemed like Hangman was on the outs and then it didn't really do much for Hangman after that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Kenny was very animated in this match.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That's what I noted in terms of, you know, playing to the back of the room stuff.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But a few things I did, a few things I noticed, some I liked, some I didn't.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, not Mark Quinn, the other one.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The screams.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, that, yeah, I'd say.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, uh, that, that, I think got his, he's kind of a gone back on that a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I love the, uh, weighing it at twenty four ounces of vodka cranberry.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I laughed at that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I stopped that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, they stopped Justin's.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I should also point out Justin's also already given up on the time calls.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so it's like that happened over over the Christmas break, I guess.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I misheard on commentary.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It was when this young team matures, and I thought they said when this young team tours, they'll get better.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I laughed at first.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, Dave's trying here, but they kind of just told Dave Brown to sit there and watch and kind of just say, man, these guys are really athletic, but he didn't have a lot to say.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And JR,

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[SPEAKER_03]: And even when he was had something to say, J.R.

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[SPEAKER_03]: is coming in there like a bulldozer as soon as day brown finishes to to remark that, hey, I'm running this booth right now and I'm going to get us through this match guy.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So everybody hop on and allow me to bulldoze my way through this match and you're just like, God, give people time to talk a little bit here, J.R.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I know that you

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[SPEAKER_03]: And he'll have his sides in his play by play still.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And you'll see this.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You'll see this as we get later to the show.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He gets crankier and crankier as the show goes on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And there's even there's a spot in there where I watched the trailer feed.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we got the stuff in the commercials.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we had J.R.

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[SPEAKER_01]: talking about his Moscow mules.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he said, it's not the first one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's the third or fourth that gets you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Transferring heats as Dave Brown had to feel like he walked into a different world.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he also pointed out all the one.

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[SPEAKER_03]: No, go ahead.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All the one for Christmas is you was the top song on this date as it is every year on January eight.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Star Wars episode nine, Rise of Skywalker was the top movie.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Huh.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_03]: What we're going to say, Dr. Davis trying to.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And it was, Andrew, I think you also had some notes from production trying tie in Memphis stuff to this if you can.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So I mean, he was trying.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Hey, we used to be a tag team territory.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Very true.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But, but not a lot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But these guys are much better.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He'd have to say.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, he had Tony both had to put that part over.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I kind of want to go back and listen to the dark that he called.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Just to see if he adds anything there and working with someone who's a little bit friendly.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think work with X caliber on it, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think I was watching dark at the time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, it was a, you know, fun opener.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Very good, you know, I don't, I didn't rate anything.

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[SPEAKER_01]: One thing I wanted to point out to was this came a few days after the Tokyo dome and the main event of the Tokyo dome show of night one, they did two nights that year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The main event of night one of Russell Kingdom was

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[SPEAKER_01]: Kota bushy versus because he's go kata, just like last night's dynamite, which I wouldn't amazing coincidence, like, you know, that that we were reviewing this show on this night right after.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it wasn't that a last match, but we're turning into Brian and Vitty.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Wow.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we go backstage.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is hilarious.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Talk is attacking somebody.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I have no idea who it is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the announcers are talking about it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Tony blurt's out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is that Michael knockazawa?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Nobody answers them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they just didn't want.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we don't get any graphics.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We never see his face.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Pock cuts this weird rambling promo into the screen and walks off.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then these, these, whatever they were, a tentan knockazawa.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then we go back to the announcers and then finally, Excalibur tells us, oh, that was Kenny's best friend.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Michael Nakazawa.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, I've watched seven of the first thirteen episodes of Dynamite.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think they've mentioned once that Kenyan, Mike and Lakazawa are friends.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, I haven't watched them all, so it's possible it happened on a show I missed.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, but I didn't really establish in my opinion that Kenny and Michael Nakazawa are friends.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Are you also watching this?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Are you watching the supplemental being the elite?

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I imagine it on that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's the thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's kind of my point.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is that, you know, they expect that you know this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And obviously there's probably a lot of fans that didn't.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And this would come up again and again and again on this show.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, this was the Donnie Darko time where you had the website to explain the product.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and then you know, and then you would get your responses on Twitter that were like watch the product.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, where are you paying attention?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Are you a real wrestling fan?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Don't you do a podcast?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Don't you know anything?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you got to watch everything or you can't do a podcast covering the two hours show your covering.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So then we got Chris that Leonard Rio for the AW Women's World Championship.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I believe Chris that Leonard had won a number of contenders match on the last show we watched.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so she got this title shot here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they had Brandy was on commentary for this brandy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I made some notes here.

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[SPEAKER_03]: There was good brandy and bad brandy all on one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, the the stuff about the most is was was right before this match to if if anyways going back on trailer and wanting to listen to it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So she says one of the very first things she says is I'd rather take a nap than watch this match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's not really an alien.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, she's not really an alien.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's just bearing everything.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's bearing both competitors.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I've no idea why because I don't think she's going to be wrestling anybody.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like she's just there and and as it turns out, none of her group was either.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There was someone that came down with her.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I had no idea who this person was.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They called her Mel.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think she might have been on the last show too, but like again, I, you know, I, her name was Mel.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it was Melanie Cruz.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But then when they shaved her head, they made her Mel.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they shaved your head on the last show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So they've changed her name since we last saw her.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, much like the, much like the TAS maniac became TAS.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's not a huge change, but I'm like, who is that?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, I first, for a second, I thought it was Serena Deb.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, no, she's way bigger than Serena deep.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The other thing is is you had like Chris that line who's supposed to be this monster and this Mel was way bigger than her.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then you had awesome con out there who was dwarfed Mel and then you had tiny little Rio as the little champion.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So they were having a pretty good match and then it just fell apart at the end.

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[SPEAKER_01]: When you had all the interference.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That was a pure WWE finish.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it was a distraction.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you had the ref was was checking on stat.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So then Chris dive into her, then then Bryce was checking on Reho.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Statliner took Kong out with a dive.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Brandy came down from commentary.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Then the

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[SPEAKER_03]: Production was having a bad time in this match, too, because apparently you're supposed to be watching all these competitors watching the match, and they just would do real quick cuts.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So you basically kind of like, okay, was that going on?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Was that interested, Brick Baker?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was the other one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They had Hikara Shida and and Brick Baker watching from ringside, and every time they cut to Brick, she had her hands crossed and she was like,

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[SPEAKER_03]: She could not have given less.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I swear it was like she was actually into the match until the camera came on her.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then she would put on that face.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it was it was actually a choice.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This wasn't just that she wasn't interested.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, resting with face.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Actually, I think transferring heat has the ratings up here and my chart has different numbers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, my chart says they did nine hundred forty seven thousand and a zero point three six.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that is a way different number than what you got there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know where you're getting that, but I've got different numbers, and I've been keeping track of this for a long time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I will have to check that, because my chart might be completely wrong, or maybe he's looking at NXT.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hang on, let me see what NXT is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, yeah, did NXT in the next, okay, so he was doing both.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Got, okay, sorry.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I was, no, he don't need dynamite.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Hmm.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so what is the annex T one?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The annex T one is right.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Seven and twenty one and point one nine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to have to check this now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, okay, I'm going to my chart might be completely wrong.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, because why would one of his numbers be right and one be wrong?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and honestly, to be honest, like my memory is that they were not doing very well in the ratings at this time.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Remember, this was like the little straighted, uh, I know what, I got the observer right here.

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[SPEAKER_03]: No, I'm looking at the two.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Drew, three one hundred the lowest of.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, that's the crowd wasn't great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: South Haven has John put it in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What did you have the ratings there?

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[SPEAKER_01]: The return of hand to hand to hand to hand to hand to hand to hand to hand to hand to hand to hand to hand to hand to hand to hand to hand to hand to hand to hand to hand to hand to hand to hand to hand to hand to hand to hand to hand to hand to hand to hand to hand to hand to hand to hand to hand to hand to hand to hand to hand to hand to hand to hand to hand to hand to hand to hand hand to hand to hand hand to hand hand to hand hand to hand hand to hand hand to hand hand to hand hand to hand hand to hand hand to hand hand to hand hand to hand hand to hand hand to hand hand hand to hand hand hand to hand hand hand to hand hand hand hand to hand hand hand hand hand to hand hand hand hand hand hand hand hand hand hand hand hand hand hand hand hand hand hand hand hand hand hand hand hand hand hand hand hand hand hand hand hand hand hand hand hand hand hand hand hand hand hand hand hand hand hand hand hand hand hand hand hand hand hand hand hand hand hand hand hand hand hand

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[SPEAKER_01]: This he says he was wrong.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, there we go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's got the numbers right now.

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[SPEAKER_03]: This wind division was a mess.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh my god at this time and they were trying to do kind of the Kenny reset here

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[SPEAKER_03]: Because I believe this was when Kenny was running things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we we we didn't mention Luther showed up in this and this match and apparently he'd been in some videos for the nightmare close and remember that he had in in our last show.

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[SPEAKER_03]: She had said wait or something like that or not now and this was now the time to unleash Dr. Luther.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, uh, number one, I had no issue with Brandy trying to do something in the women's division.

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[SPEAKER_03]: This just wasn't it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: This was more.

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[SPEAKER_03]: This is more her trying to be scanned our act bar in the world class doing a devastation ink type gimmick.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I just, I just think her being a heal with with Cody being a face was a bad choice.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But I will always be a brandy apologist because she gave up a lifetime career in WWE to follow Cody around while he did his indie thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think making her a heel.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it was kind of bad.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, it shouldn't make her likable.

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[SPEAKER_03]: People like her.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and she deliberately made herself unlikable.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, sorry.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, the other thing, Rio's not my thing.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I like you as a champ.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I find the, but I find, see, I think Rio would have been better off not dressing in her Josie gear.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think AEW needed to kind of establish that the two extremes and women's wrestling need to find the happy medium of being athletic wrestler as opposed to

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[SPEAKER_03]: the weird child fetish of Josie versus the WWE overly sexualizing things like say you remember Vanessa porn.

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[SPEAKER_01]: WWE was getting a lot of credit criticism for the portrayal of Alexa Bliss and you know where she dressed up in school girl outfits and yeah she was doing the theme she was doing the theme and I would point out what about

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then they would point out, oh, no, no, no, you don't understand Joe's.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's different as part of the culture and Joe's.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's still a frigging creepy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's still on North American television.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I don't care where it originated.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Look, Stadlander is doing her alien thing, but she's dressed like an athlete.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Rio is dressed like she's an eighth grader.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then this time she was actually talking.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So she's learned how to speak in the three weeks since we lost our

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so after the match, uh, awesome Kong attacks stat.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't point out a real one with a pinfall.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It didn't even matter it with all that interference.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The result of the match didn't matter even though it was for the world title.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It was a dumb pinfall though because that has her up in a tombstone pile driver and then she walks over to the ropes so that Kong can grab the leg.

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[SPEAKER_03]: and trooper.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It was the most convoluted dumb.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And in Rio was apparently supposed to not be able to tell what had happened, even though there's no possible way she could have missed it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And so she was all she knew her way behind her legs and somehow ripped up Chris Spatlander.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so she, she won.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then, uh, and then awesome, Kong ran into the ring, a laid out stat lander, uh, started mounting her, hit her with forearms, and then real tried to save, but Mel grabbed her.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So they're beating on these two that just wrestled for the title.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The car of Shita jumps the rail and goes in to make the save.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Britt puts up her hands and said to hell with this and walks away.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'd literally what she did.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And she was supposed to be a baby face.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And she's been doing that for five years.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, it was very shortly after this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I believe like a couple weeks later on the Jericho's when she basically turned heel.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, I think they were actually setting up the heel turn.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, it came off like it was stupid, but it actually had a point.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then so because she had left, we get a couple people run down.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And again, I've been watching all these shows.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've never seen these people.

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[SPEAKER_01]: One of them is identified as big swall.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the other one is Sunny Kiss.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sunny Kiss.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Who I didn't realize was in the women's division.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She or he, Sunny doesn't care which one you call her is basically competed in both divisions.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I remember matches with Sunny, and I didn't remember Sunny being booked against women.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that only happened on dark.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Gotcha.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, she definitely was part of that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Big swall was the wrong swall to sign.

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[SPEAKER_03]: They should have signed a little swall.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, and I believe at the time, they were still calling her Ariel Monroe, but yes, they just called her big swall.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And then she got into the brick baker orbit and eventually was let go and then called Tony Khan Arracist as I recall.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And her husband, I just saw him tonight on impact.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he cut a promo boot look in WWE talking about how awesome to a five live was and how much of an honor it was to have John Cena in the front row during his match with Mustafa Ali.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He was kind of embarrassing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think he's given up on going to AWS is my point.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We got a video package with super bad Kipsaian and Penelope Ford.

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[SPEAKER_03]: They never looked better than in this package.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's trying to equip Sabian because it's like, okay, he's going, and then Penelope, her thing was she should have never been, it's the Zelina Vega thing.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, once you made her a full-time competitor, the R of her jumping off the top rope onto the floor to do garanas isn't as impressive, which I aimed at you to say.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, and yeah, and kind of cool here.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I was like, all right, what happened to that guy?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, and then they're like, they mentioned like he basically stole her in real life from Joey Jim.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that was going to be a feud.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Jim Ella recovered.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's not guess.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, he's no Megan Bane.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Megan Bane.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And now they're partners.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Megan and Penelope.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's weird.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, she's with Kit.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, they're married.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know sometimes marriages end.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, she had a couple of, she had a couple of miscarriages, remember?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, but they're still together.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And then I got a creepy JR coming at after the video package.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: There's something I like about that Penelope Ford.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, a couple things.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Can't think of WWE out of the guy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Nope.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, so.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Then we got a match and this was, this was a bad match.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Wait, I don't want to do, you don't want to do five minutes of Zach Myers.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm shined down.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no, let's just get.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He was in the front row.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He looked like every other fan.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If they hadn't put up a graphic, I would have no idea.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I've heard of the band, but I wouldn't have heard of it all.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It was just like, who are these dorks?

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[SPEAKER_03]: But okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, the only, I think it was just the most.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So, so this next match, we had a two week program about a fake botch.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Was that what we're doing?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I think it was a real botch that they tried to claim was fake.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's Christopher Daniels and Sammy Guevara.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the idea was was that they showed a highlight actually.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I mean, again, you know, like there's shown video packages and highlights and reminding people about what the storyline is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're talking about music booking.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's amazing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So Daniel said had a match with somebody.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can't remember who it was because I didn't write it down on my notes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you remember?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Probably doesn't really matter.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He had, well, the, the, the, the ball of the original watch.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, pent up, pent up, right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, this pent to came out and was taunting him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, Penta, he had a bad idea.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think he was a heal.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He might have been.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm almost positive if he was a heal.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, he comes out and he's taunting Daniels and the announcers remind us when these two wrestled, Daniels fell off the ropes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, the idea is that Daniels is doubting himself and he's old and he may not have it anymore.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And this would play into the whole SCU storyline as it turned out like this was non-going thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So they had this match and Daniel's just botching stuff left right in center.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I guess the idea is that he doesn't have it anymore.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It just came off like he's no good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and and Gavaro was just okay let me let me pause you right here then if that's the story they're telling then why is he walking to the ring cocky with the ring general thing and uh and see you yeah why is it he just kind of like what did you did you see the whole thing where he comes out and he does a promo and he's like working the crowd and everything yeah that was okay you saw that okay so that was it's weird and he didn't see the jar stuff

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

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[SPEAKER_01]: It would play into a basically a storyline that would go right through.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm sure they had bigger plans for it than what it ended up being.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But so anyways, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So the match happened, like basically the Christopher Daniels was trying for something.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He fell.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sammy hit him with a jackknife, Chris kicked out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're both down.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Put Daniels on the top rope and threw him off.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then he hit a huge rock or Daniel said a huge rock bottom.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then that's when when Pentagon came out and he was laughing at him, he's like show me your moon salt and then Gavar just hit him from behind with the knee and got the pin.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was a mess, a complete mess.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Sammy Gavar was never more over than he was as the Tully Blanchard of the Inner Circle.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, he was so good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He went badly and fully Spanish God here a few weeks earlier on the other shows I'm watching.

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[SPEAKER_01]: His gimmick, they were actually calling him the best ever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was his gimmick.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like instead of Spanish God, he was the best ever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Then they tweaked it and now he's the Spanish God.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And here's where it's B.R.

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[SPEAKER_03]: also started going off the rails a bit because somebody mentioned Tony vlogging.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It was brutal.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So then the dark order come out and and then Eve Aluno is basically saying like, you know, if it wasn't for Chris Daniels, I might not be doing this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he says, but people don't believe in me anymore.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he puts his hand on Chris the shoulders said, I want you to hear this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can make you the man you once were.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Then he gave him a mask and I should point out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So they got

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's Evaluno and Stu Grayson.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They got John Silver and Alex Reynolds with them who walked to the ring without masks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Then as soon as they get in the ring, they put on their masks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's two other guys who I'm almost positive are not Alan Angels and Preston Bands.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think they joined yet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So they're just two random dudes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So he hands Chris Daniels a mask and he wants to put it on and join the group.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Chris Daniels teases like he's going to put it on and then he throws it to the mat and then he gets beat down by the dark order Scorpio sky Frankie Cazarian the young box all run down make the save run the dark order off Daniels goes up top hits the boost best moon salt ever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now they were also talking in this thing about how the dark order had been referring to the exalted one who is on his way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And of course, that would end up being Brody Lee.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Although at the time, people were thinking that this was a tease that was going to be crist for Daniels was actually going to end up joining the group.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And because the rumor that he was going to be the higher power and W one times.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Correct.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think that was what we are supposed to think.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then it was, you know, but I believe the idea was always going to be Brody Lee.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, the whole point of the of the dark order thing and the masks was you take off the masks when you're not

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[SPEAKER_03]: in the ring.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And then when you when you when you when you go into the ring, you're a supplicant and a number.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So you put on the mask kind of that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I thought that was the original.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It likes your stupid voice.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, let's talk about Stu Grayson decided he was going to go one on four against these baby faces.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And they had to try to justify that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: They go.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, he's just crazy.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So he thinks he's going to take out all the baby faces and then Scorpio sky decides to do the summer salt.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Puancia outside the ring or whatever it was on to all the babies.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, and then and then these valiant baby faces who are doing like a six on one beat down allow Chris Daniels to do the best moon salt ever to a

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[SPEAKER_03]: Tepid pop, I would call it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, because he just spent the last ten minutes being on old loser.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I can't do anything.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And now he said, yeah, I think they were expecting, oh, he still got it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And it's like, no, we just had a two-week program about a botch.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And now you know how to wrestle again.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That's great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that led into Penta, I don't think he actually left.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Actually, no, he did because they ended up showing him backstage.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But he came out and it was Penta and Ray Phoenix, the Luchibros against Cody and Dustin, who at the time were known as the Brotherhood.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't remember that tag team name, but it's good name.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and they had a, you know, really good match.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, as you mentioned, Pentate, well, Pentate, uh, the lawyers were, uh, had their boots on and they weren't bitching about who they were working with.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, and, and, uh, Cody and, and Dustin had armed with them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, what's his, what do they call him at the time?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I coach coach.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the coach, aren't Anderson.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, uh, yeah, so they, uh, they had, they had a great, uh,

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[SPEAKER_01]: They had a great, I wouldn't say great, but a really good match, really good tag team match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, three of these four guys are in WWE now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You'll note that we didn't say that Ray Phoenix was better off than he was back then.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Good.

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[SPEAKER_03]: No, because, and that's the fault of WWE.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, that's the fault of them sticking him in that WrestleMania match just to get beat by El Grande Americano as opposed to like protecting him and just putting somebody else in that match because they want a name in there.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But my notes are pentagon is totally in his sports entertainment bag here.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The glove, the cerobero, all that stuff.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Phoenix looks Ray looks motivated here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and they were the commentary was putting him over is like one of the best in the world.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, already at this point, like five years ago, six years ago.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, props to X caliber for right as GR's talking about crap that Dusty couldn't do say he hit him with the bathical kick.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, like that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And, uh, there was a, there was a bump here.

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[SPEAKER_03]: When Phoenix went on the top rope, did a drop kick on the Dustin were Dustin.

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[SPEAKER_03]: jumped up like he was twenty and flew backwards on there and I was amazed at that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I was like, wow, this dude is going to make it look like a million bucks even in his mid to late fifties.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He's so good.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And he's a guy that I hated when I was young.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, I just thought he was overpushed like in that dust tent early.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, and that early nineties version.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And then he wouldn't became gold dust.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I really hated that character a lot because I got to say I always had a soft spot in my heart for dust.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I don't know why I liked him.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But it was one of those things where it was like, I thought he was only like in in the NWA slash WCW.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I thought he was only getting pushed because he was Dusty's kid.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And he'd be in a team with like Kendall wind them occasionally and be like, when a team with we team with Barry and when Barry was still kind of spelt.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, they were they were awesome and hitting the ropes really hard and and things like that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So I did appreciate what I had at the time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I enjoyed the doubt the Dustin and Dusty tag team in WWE F too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I don't like that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And when he came back like in the mid nineties and stuff when they were doing the end with Dusty for the war games, I mean, that was fantastic stuff too.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We was teaming with aren't and aren't turned on.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, that stuff was all great too, but yeah, no, as he's

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[SPEAKER_03]: As I now watch him and I just he just he has his match and he has his moves and there's nothing wrong with that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But you just go he's so good at the little things and so awesome at it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like even as promos when he came out and cut that promo with him and Sammy is in the sun's Texas versus the Hertz and a kid.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, he single handedly made that feud.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That was nothing in the Southland.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it could have been more, but obviously MVP was an interest in having a good feud.

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[SPEAKER_01]: One thing when you talked about who was better off now than they were then, one thing I was thinking about is who has aged?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And if you put these four guys in a match today, I think it would look exactly the same.

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[SPEAKER_01]: None of these guys have changed at all.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And whereas like the box, I think Cody would work a little safer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Cody will try.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just talking visually.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just talking visually.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like they look exactly the same.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The box look way older now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Private party like looks completely different.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Moxley looks older.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, lots of different.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I wouldn't even say older, just completely different look.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, in the face.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it looks older.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It could be, it could be like he's actually in better shape though, like physics.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because he stopped drinking.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sammy looks completely different.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like he looked like he was twelve on this show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And now he looks like he's twenty, maybe twenty five, you know, and he's probably like in his thirties.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We didn't see Darby, but I'll bet he looks pretty similar.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I would think, Kip looks

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[SPEAKER_01]: Keep doesn't look older.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He just looks completely different and nowhere.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now he looks older.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He doesn't.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The canopy looks exactly the same.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like it's weird how some of these people aged and some of them didn't, but statlyander looks a little worse for where.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I wouldn't necessarily say older, just worse.

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[SPEAKER_03]: No, I think she's in, I think she's nice and it's good to shape as she was here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, just not aesthetically.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, yeah, right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She looked more like an athlete now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She just looks like, I don't know, I don't even want to, I don't want to come.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to come.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't want to come.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, so yeah, the Cody one with the Cody cutter and then actually he hit the Cody cutter and then JF looks older that's who I was saying yeah, it's way older although the funny thing is on this show when he did is promo his promo sounded

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[SPEAKER_01]: The same as it does now, but when we watch that double or nothing, his voice sounded different.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So his voice has changed between May of, twenty-nineteen and January of, twenty-twenty.

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[SPEAKER_03]: His voice has been drinking or something.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like what happened to Al Pacino's voice when he started drinking, have a

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, there you go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so yeah, Dustin hit the final reckoning after Cody hit a Cody cutter Dustin pinned Ray Phoenix on and this which kind of surprising I kind of thought the legibros are going to win, but

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then Tony Shavani got in the ring and he asked Cody for his answer to.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And this was the first of the trials of MJF or whatever they called it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so MJF has Wardlow with him now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't remember this from the last show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe MJF was just off that show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But because I hadn't seen Wardlow, like the ones I'm watching now, like Wardlow's coming.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But now he's here and with his man button that Jar made fun of.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And and so he asks Tony asks him, you know, what's your answer about Maxwell Jacob Friedman stipulation.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So the story wise, if you don't remember, they were best friends, even though MJF was a heel and Cody was a baby face.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And MDF turned on Cody in his world title match, meaning that Cody could never challenge for the WWW title again.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And now we're setting up an MDF Cody feud and MDF won't take the match unless Cody goes through these five trials.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So MJF says, or aren't Anderson actually said to MJF like how do you think you have the stroke to to lay down these steps that someone died make you God.

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[SPEAKER_01]: One thing we know for sure is Cody wants to match so we're going to talk about it and we'll get back to you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that was that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Then we got to see leaping liney pothole as one of the legends of Memphis wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't really say much just put over the title of the show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then they put over that they're going to do the tribute to Memphis on dark.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I assume that's where you got your Dave Brown on commentary for the whole thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So if you're looking for that, that would be probably the January, thirteenth, twenty-twenty episode of A.W.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Dark.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's probably on YouTube.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, let me, I thought the pothole was

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[SPEAKER_03]: Interesting.

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[SPEAKER_03]: What's okay.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Remind me of the timetable here because I'm not sure about it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What do you mean?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, let me get it out.

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[SPEAKER_03]: When did Poffo have that doomed run as New Japan commentator?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, God.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to say it was around this time, but a little bit earlier.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That's what I was thinking too.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And that's why I thought he was thinking, and I want to be as involved in this, you know, kind of a thing.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm just going, oh, brother.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It was a year earlier.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was a year earlier, and he was supposed to replace Don Callis.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, and he was terrible.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, he was beyond terrible.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I watched it all.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So he was trying to kind of get an AEW's good graces on a for a commentary gig here, but I liked that Austin idol never ages.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he was there too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, forgot about that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And it's one of the things we're going to be looking at, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Jimmy Valley.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, Jimmy, Jimmy, he's known as handsome Jimmy in Memphis.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He was only the boogie woogie man in a crocket.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I believe, but yeah, our call them boogie woogie didn't he?

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[SPEAKER_03]: He did because it's just JR knows him from crocket.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Mostly.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So it's one of those things where it's like, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I, yeah, I like these, but I just remember being so mad at Tony because it wasn't that long ago.

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[SPEAKER_03]: They were in, I think, two below.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And FTR goes, oh, Dennis countries in the audience.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they never told us.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And until like it was like, I'd like, I think collusion.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think they showed them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they just showed them.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I was so mad at that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was like, damn it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was he to the scudry.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And rock and roll was there as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, aren't.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they put them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And now, did they get laid out on this show?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, no.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

55:19.992 --> 55:21.152
[SPEAKER_01]: Again, I don't think so.

55:21.272 --> 55:30.554
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm on the episode there's either four or five they were on that show and they got power bomb through a table by Centana and her teeth.

55:31.414 --> 55:34.855
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't think Robert Gibson was in Memphis with Ricky.

55:35.015 --> 55:41.476
[SPEAKER_03]: I think I thought Ricky was just a young prelim guy who he would he would seem a Jeff Jared occasionally.

55:41.717 --> 55:43.637
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, don't let this get in the way of good story.

55:44.072 --> 55:47.775
[SPEAKER_03]: Look, I'm just trying to try to fight off Alzheimer.

55:47.795 --> 55:57.362
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm trying to, but I think we can Robert have been on three shows of the first thirteen, which is more than a lot of the sign talented been on, which is interesting.

55:58.582 --> 56:05.947
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so then we go to break, we come back and MJF's in the ring now with Wardlow and he gives Cody to the count of ten to come out here and face them.

56:06.627 --> 56:11.730
[SPEAKER_01]: The announcement say that they're not even sure if Cody is there, even though he just wrestled, that was weird.

56:11.750 --> 56:18.014
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and then so he doesn't come out and MJF calls him a bitch, but instead, it comes DDP.

56:19.175 --> 56:24.881
[SPEAKER_01]: And he does a five minute promo about himself and DDP yoga and all his career and everything.

56:25.322 --> 56:28.365
[SPEAKER_01]: While he's doing it, MDF is scrolling his phone in the corner.

56:28.385 --> 56:29.827
[SPEAKER_01]: I like that.

56:30.788 --> 56:32.289
[SPEAKER_01]: That's a good heel move.

56:34.131 --> 56:36.314
[SPEAKER_01]: And so he just lets him go on and on.

56:36.714 --> 56:40.939
[SPEAKER_01]: At one point, I think it was Excalibur asked, like, is he paying for this airtime?

56:41.439 --> 56:45.045
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm thinking, no, he's not getting paid to be on the show.

56:45.706 --> 56:47.169
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like a time share.

56:48.250 --> 56:51.175
[SPEAKER_00]: We're not going to pay you, but you can plug your DDP yoga if you want.

56:52.457 --> 56:54.541
[SPEAKER_00]: Because man, that's all he did.

56:55.353 --> 56:57.935
[SPEAKER_03]: No, yeah, no, and called it and called them a jerk off.

56:58.536 --> 56:58.696
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

56:59.136 --> 57:00.277
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I wouldn't call them.

57:00.358 --> 57:04.401
[SPEAKER_01]: It was motor mouth, jerk off freedom motor mouth, jerk off freedom.

57:05.062 --> 57:08.305
[SPEAKER_03]: And then it was mostly about the rebranding of DDP yoga.

57:08.325 --> 57:08.665
[SPEAKER_03]: It's now.

57:08.705 --> 57:09.065
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

57:09.366 --> 57:09.846
[SPEAKER_03]: Why?

57:09.866 --> 57:10.206
[SPEAKER_03]: Why?

57:10.286 --> 57:13.489
[SPEAKER_01]: And then they didn't end up going because you speak to that.

57:13.569 --> 57:15.451
[SPEAKER_03]: No, why are G was the first name of it.

57:15.931 --> 57:16.332
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

57:16.472 --> 57:16.752
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

57:16.852 --> 57:19.695
[SPEAKER_03]: You'll go for regular guys or so now it's DDP.

57:19.735 --> 57:19.915
[SPEAKER_01]: Why?

57:20.760 --> 57:23.121
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, now it's all about getting into that.

57:23.721 --> 57:24.602
[SPEAKER_03]: It's actually pretty good.

57:24.642 --> 57:25.422
[SPEAKER_03]: I've done it before.

57:25.462 --> 57:30.625
[SPEAKER_03]: It's been helping him to shape, and I did that along with P-N-D-X, and I was in the best shape of my life.

57:30.705 --> 57:37.648
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm only going to do it if Dally will give me a send me a letter when I graduate.

57:37.668 --> 57:39.969
[SPEAKER_03]: I, boy, I'll tell you about DDP.

57:41.250 --> 57:46.112
[SPEAKER_03]: He never got to the point where I loved him as much as I loved him in the AWA as a manager.

57:47.133 --> 57:50.815
[SPEAKER_03]: Even in WCW when he would do the good god.

57:50.835 --> 57:55.278
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I kind of liked him when he was like the friend of the stars in WCW.

57:55.478 --> 57:59.881
[SPEAKER_01]: That was probably my favorite DDP, but yeah, I did like the AWA version as well with the guy.

57:59.981 --> 58:06.425
[SPEAKER_03]: I like the messenger even though he he is managing like he had Kurt Hanagan there for a short time.

58:07.043 --> 58:17.069
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it was, that's what I was going to say, it was mostly pat to knock and Paul diamond and Paul diamond's not small, but DDP's like six seven.

58:17.149 --> 58:19.710
[SPEAKER_03]: So he's towering over his charts.

58:20.070 --> 58:23.172
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's what that dog is like, five eight.

58:23.932 --> 58:25.493
[SPEAKER_01]: And and talking for them.

58:25.574 --> 58:27.275
[SPEAKER_01]: So like it's like, what did they even hear for?

58:27.635 --> 58:28.616
[SPEAKER_01]: You're you're better.

58:28.696 --> 58:29.436
[SPEAKER_01]: You're bigger than them.

58:29.456 --> 58:30.177
[SPEAKER_01]: You're better than them.

58:30.237 --> 58:32.138
[SPEAKER_01]: And you talk better than them.

58:32.198 --> 58:34.880
[SPEAKER_03]: He needed to talk for them for the most sparkers.

58:34.920 --> 58:39.963
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, Borek was Canadian and just, you know, he had that.

58:40.023 --> 58:40.644
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

58:40.964 --> 58:43.646
[SPEAKER_03]: Hey, he was he could really get a mad.

58:43.666 --> 58:46.808
[SPEAKER_03]: He was like almost middle so to nice in time with his Canadian.

58:47.728 --> 58:50.090
[SPEAKER_03]: No, no, no, Paul, I mean, yeah, Tom Bork.

58:50.250 --> 58:50.730
[SPEAKER_03]: I didn't know that.

58:50.951 --> 58:52.051
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

58:52.091 --> 58:55.874
[SPEAKER_03]: He was, he was, I believe he's, his family's Croatian ways from Canada, I believe.

58:56.215 --> 58:57.516
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, there's a lot of Croatians.

58:57.756 --> 59:03.320
[SPEAKER_03]: He played, he played soccer at a college near Mexico, Old Dominion University.

59:03.340 --> 59:04.001
[SPEAKER_03]: It was a goal either.

59:05.302 --> 59:07.424
[SPEAKER_03]: And Pat and Pat and Pat to knock a look.

59:08.084 --> 59:11.387
[SPEAKER_03]: You watched to knock a diamond drank at promos and Memphis.

59:12.088 --> 59:16.131
[SPEAKER_03]: It's it's hitter miss and it's mostly miss own D.D.

59:16.211 --> 59:18.413
[SPEAKER_03]: B. being their heater was a good thing.

59:18.433 --> 59:19.814
[SPEAKER_03]: They're a great tag team.

59:20.855 --> 59:22.556
[SPEAKER_03]: But they needed somebody to talk for them.

59:23.377 --> 59:24.658
[SPEAKER_01]: Only reason to watch A.W.

59:24.698 --> 59:26.360
[SPEAKER_01]: Adrian that period transfer needs us.

59:27.860 --> 59:31.982
[SPEAKER_01]: So eventually, MJF gets sick of listening to him.

59:32.342 --> 59:35.604
[SPEAKER_01]: And I tell his DDP, he couldn't lace your boots in my prime.

59:36.024 --> 59:38.665
[SPEAKER_01]: But now with those arthritis cans, he can't even hold my jaw.

59:39.345 --> 59:40.406
[SPEAKER_01]: Page got in his face.

59:41.226 --> 59:47.829
[SPEAKER_01]: And he said, I actually had a line in here at one point too, or he says, oh, no, no, that was later.

59:49.050 --> 59:51.891
[SPEAKER_01]: So he, sorry, Page gets his face.

59:51.911 --> 59:53.952
[SPEAKER_01]: And if you have said, he doesn't want to fight, but these guys might.

59:54.452 --> 59:56.233
[SPEAKER_01]: And then come butcher blade in the bunny.

59:57.188 --> 59:59.010
[SPEAKER_01]: And then MJF keeps going.

59:59.050 --> 01:00:00.331
[SPEAKER_01]: He says, I know you're getting C now.

01:00:00.351 --> 01:00:04.215
[SPEAKER_01]: WCW is dead and dead is the average age of your fans coincidentally.

01:00:05.036 --> 01:00:05.656
[SPEAKER_01]: And he says,

01:00:06.578 --> 01:00:07.719
[SPEAKER_01]: You're in a bit of a predicament here.

01:00:07.879 --> 01:00:09.000
[SPEAKER_01]: You got two options.

01:00:09.080 --> 01:00:13.422
[SPEAKER_01]: You can kiss my ring and get out of my company or and I kind of prefer this one.

01:00:13.903 --> 01:00:15.404
[SPEAKER_01]: I can send you straight to hostess.

01:00:15.744 --> 01:00:24.749
[SPEAKER_01]: Then I can take one of your diamond daughters later down real nice in your bed and we're going to do one thing and one thing only in that.

01:00:28.472 --> 01:00:28.872
[SPEAKER_00]: Wow.

01:00:30.264 --> 01:00:35.085
[SPEAKER_03]: I knew where this is going and I started my, my, my, my fingers are to put her up.

01:00:36.566 --> 01:00:38.506
[SPEAKER_03]: Just go, oh God, this is the bed.

01:00:38.526 --> 01:00:41.607
[SPEAKER_01]: And one of the diamond daughters got hired after this.

01:00:42.368 --> 01:00:43.688
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, likes in there.

01:00:44.408 --> 01:00:50.390
[SPEAKER_01]: And the deal is DDP shelves them and then he hits a diamond cutter on butcher.

01:00:51.330 --> 01:00:56.012
[SPEAKER_01]: And another, Lade gets the better of them, but then DDP lays him out.

01:00:56.652 --> 01:00:58.693
[SPEAKER_01]: And MJF interfered, shoved him away.

01:00:59.053 --> 01:01:05.316
[SPEAKER_01]: Page was about to attack him, then he runs into Wardlow, and then Max kicks him in the nuts.

01:01:06.156 --> 01:01:14.240
[SPEAKER_01]: And Wardlow and DDT are Wardlow and Ali dropped DDP, and QT Marshall and Dustin made the save.

01:01:14.700 --> 01:01:15.840
[SPEAKER_01]: So no code here at all.

01:01:16.521 --> 01:01:17.761
[SPEAKER_03]: JR doing that, the pun.

01:01:17.801 --> 01:01:19.302
[SPEAKER_03]: He if that is your real name.

01:01:19.782 --> 01:01:21.183
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, yeah, and I just called her alleys.

01:01:21.223 --> 01:01:21.944
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah.

01:01:21.964 --> 01:01:22.184
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

01:01:22.524 --> 01:01:24.306
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, the weird boy.

01:01:24.326 --> 01:01:30.210
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, I think blade was cut, but I could be wrong.

01:01:30.851 --> 01:01:32.072
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think butchers injured.

01:01:32.712 --> 01:01:34.894
[SPEAKER_03]: No, no, I was asking what do you think of them?

01:01:35.492 --> 01:01:37.734
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, like, in this segment or in general.

01:01:37.954 --> 01:01:50.383
[SPEAKER_01]: No, in general, in general, I thought they were a good team, like a good, a good, like, job or team that, you know, has a little bit of credibility, but basically you can put over a baby face tag team with them.

01:01:51.724 --> 01:01:53.726
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I, let's that sure.

01:01:53.786 --> 01:01:59.110
[SPEAKER_03]: Could I use to listen to his show with Vixosa on F-W all the time?

01:02:00.545 --> 01:02:03.267
[SPEAKER_03]: would always put over pepper parks.

01:02:03.847 --> 01:02:04.087
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

01:02:04.107 --> 01:02:05.228
[SPEAKER_00]: We'd read later.

01:02:05.528 --> 01:02:07.369
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's a lot.

01:02:07.409 --> 01:02:13.452
[SPEAKER_03]: It's remember being there to I always thought I thought butcher could be something.

01:02:15.033 --> 01:02:15.714
[SPEAKER_01]: And he hit that.

01:02:15.794 --> 01:02:17.915
[SPEAKER_01]: It was me about five years of two old.

01:02:18.955 --> 01:02:21.397
[SPEAKER_03]: Probably, but he was also in the wrong company.

01:02:22.572 --> 01:02:26.396
[SPEAKER_03]: He may because he had, I mean, the monocle thing was awesome.

01:02:27.057 --> 01:02:27.777
[SPEAKER_03]: He was big.

01:02:27.817 --> 01:02:37.267
[SPEAKER_03]: He had size and he hit that ward low ceiling, hops his it as well, where you get big guys and then Tony once is a star ratings.

01:02:37.967 --> 01:02:41.671
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, he'll always have the record for most of the eliminations in battle royals.

01:02:41.751 --> 01:02:42.712
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, not always.

01:02:42.792 --> 01:02:42.932
[SPEAKER_01]: Sure.

01:02:42.952 --> 01:02:44.994
[SPEAKER_01]: At some point, somebody will break it, but right now he has it.

01:02:45.798 --> 01:02:52.766
[SPEAKER_03]: He's always in these battle royals and he's always strong people out, but I dug the shaggy like older look with the monocle and stuff.

01:02:52.806 --> 01:02:59.935
[SPEAKER_03]: They look great like Blake like yeah, like wait always look like a million bucks, but he was always like about three shades to dark

01:03:02.162 --> 01:03:11.388
[SPEAKER_01]: You know who these guys remind me of a little bit is a guy I saw tonight Jake something every time I see that guy I'm like how is he not a big star in a major company?

01:03:12.209 --> 01:03:13.469
[SPEAKER_01]: He looks like a million bucks.

01:03:13.509 --> 01:03:17.372
[SPEAKER_01]: He's a good wrestler and it's just his name is awful

01:03:18.052 --> 01:03:19.993
[SPEAKER_01]: So I mean, I guess he's got a lot in common with these guys.

01:03:20.013 --> 01:03:21.354
[SPEAKER_01]: This is a picture in play.

01:03:21.755 --> 01:03:24.917
[SPEAKER_03]: They needed better double team moves is what they needed.

01:03:24.957 --> 01:03:40.068
[SPEAKER_01]: They needed parks to be the small quick guy and they needed the butcher to be the power guy and they needed to set up something like a dude's day, but not a dude's day, you know, like something like that or a heart attack or you know, something where yeah, Blake can use his speed and butcher can use his strength and yeah.

01:03:40.528 --> 01:03:45.670
[SPEAKER_01]: And they just never, part of the problem too is that they never really featured them enough to where they could get over.

01:03:46.031 --> 01:03:48.012
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, they, they would disappear months on end.

01:03:48.052 --> 01:03:51.333
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think that was because butcher had his music as well, right?

01:03:51.353 --> 01:03:52.914
[SPEAKER_01]: So he would disappear and then played with.

01:03:52.934 --> 01:03:58.936
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but they'd also get mixed up in like multi tag teams, stables for some reason.

01:03:58.957 --> 01:03:59.817
[SPEAKER_03]: They'd be like the second.

01:04:00.917 --> 01:04:03.759
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they were in the hardy family office forever.

01:04:03.899 --> 01:04:06.220
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think they were in.

01:04:07.082 --> 01:04:07.983
[SPEAKER_01]: They were joiners.

01:04:08.003 --> 01:04:11.606
[SPEAKER_03]: They were kind of like those be villains that join every single supervillain group.

01:04:12.227 --> 01:04:14.569
[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like they're in an escape group at one point.

01:04:15.290 --> 01:04:16.351
[SPEAKER_01]: Just like as hired guns.

01:04:16.391 --> 01:04:18.733
[SPEAKER_03]: No, MTF hired them at one point.

01:04:19.014 --> 01:04:19.474
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, here.

01:04:19.494 --> 01:04:20.936
[SPEAKER_03]: I think here too.

01:04:21.036 --> 01:04:21.316
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

01:04:21.356 --> 01:04:22.577
[SPEAKER_03]: He hired them a couple times.

01:04:24.199 --> 01:04:26.901
[SPEAKER_01]: And then every time they would do it, you were just expected to remember.

01:04:26.941 --> 01:04:27.202
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.

01:04:27.222 --> 01:04:28.423
[SPEAKER_01]: They got a longstanding relationship.

01:04:29.972 --> 01:04:36.418
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, Traffering Heat says Jake Jake something is in the same vein as above average Mike Saunders stupid name.

01:04:36.659 --> 01:04:38.360
[SPEAKER_01]: I like above average Mike Sanders.

01:04:38.580 --> 01:04:39.041
[SPEAKER_01]: I do too.

01:04:39.361 --> 01:04:40.542
[SPEAKER_01]: One of my guilty pleasures of.

01:04:40.943 --> 01:04:46.828
[SPEAKER_01]: I died to dying days of W. W. I wish he would have made it, but it's good to have many.

01:04:47.509 --> 01:04:47.829
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.

01:04:47.869 --> 01:04:49.671
[SPEAKER_03]: He was actually a pretty decent stand up, too.

01:04:50.032 --> 01:04:50.332
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, okay.

01:04:51.443 --> 01:04:55.225
[SPEAKER_01]: Then we got, I guess this group was called the gentlemen's club.

01:04:55.465 --> 01:05:05.849
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't remember that, but it was Chuck Taylor and Trent who are the best friends and Orange Cassidy against the Jurassic Express, which of course was Jungle Boy Jack Perry.

01:05:06.069 --> 01:05:10.371
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, at the time, he was just Jungle Boy except JR was the only one that would call him Jack Perry.

01:05:10.931 --> 01:05:12.772
[SPEAKER_01]: He wanted that to happen.

01:05:13.412 --> 01:05:17.614
[SPEAKER_01]: Jungle Boy Jack, Jungle Jack, Jungle Boy Perry, like you just wouldn't stop.

01:05:18.214 --> 01:05:19.395
[SPEAKER_01]: Luchessaurus and

01:05:20.483 --> 01:05:21.323
[SPEAKER_01]: Marco Stunt.

01:05:22.063 --> 01:05:23.104
[SPEAKER_01]: It's my God.

01:05:23.844 --> 01:05:30.886
[SPEAKER_01]: The only thing that I can take away from this match is I can't believe Marco Stunt was ever on national television as a wrestler.

01:05:31.586 --> 01:05:33.766
[SPEAKER_01]: Like he was over his hell in this match.

01:05:33.826 --> 01:05:37.727
[SPEAKER_01]: We talked about this last night because he was in his backyard of his hometown.

01:05:37.787 --> 01:05:41.168
[SPEAKER_01]: Like I know it wasn't exactly his hometown and they mentioned that, but he was close to his hometown.

01:05:41.208 --> 01:05:44.289
[SPEAKER_01]: So he had people chanting for Marco, but he would get in there.

01:05:44.929 --> 01:05:55.398
[SPEAKER_01]: And he would dance and he'd pound his chest and he would like, act like he was going to fight and then he'd back off and he'd dance some more and he was and then eventually the heel would get them and then he'd just get killed.

01:05:56.179 --> 01:06:03.685
[SPEAKER_01]: And at one point he's in there with Trent Baretta and Trent Baretta look like Andre the Giant next to him and Trent I mean, Trent's on a small guy, but

01:06:04.426 --> 01:06:06.528
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he's not you're a sneaky tall.

01:06:07.048 --> 01:06:09.230
[SPEAKER_01]: He is, but he looked like he was.

01:06:09.410 --> 01:06:15.975
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, he was like, this, this is, yeah, but this is also it is he looks like the young bucks dad face a little bit.

01:06:16.015 --> 01:06:16.255
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:06:16.495 --> 01:06:16.596
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:06:16.616 --> 01:06:16.776
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:06:17.116 --> 01:06:19.918
[SPEAKER_01]: And, and, and of course, Marco Scott looks like a nine year old.

01:06:20.759 --> 01:06:21.399
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:06:21.459 --> 01:06:24.101
[SPEAKER_03]: No, he's probably the same as the panel before.

01:06:24.161 --> 01:06:28.605
[SPEAKER_03]: Then he was great at like a couple of spots here and there, but he's never been a full-time wrestler.

01:06:28.945 --> 01:06:30.748
[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, yeah, that was the thing.

01:06:30.788 --> 01:06:38.341
[SPEAKER_01]: And I mean, the most memorable thing ever, I think was that one time you had a match with Lance Archer in the pandemic, right?

01:06:38.381 --> 01:06:40.284
[SPEAKER_01]: Lance threw him into like the ninth world.

01:06:43.240 --> 01:06:44.060
[SPEAKER_02]: It was so great.

01:06:44.280 --> 01:06:45.401
[SPEAKER_02]: I held it then.

01:06:46.241 --> 01:06:48.082
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm pretty sure that might end in this career.

01:06:49.083 --> 01:06:50.163
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, like indirectly.

01:06:51.344 --> 01:07:01.088
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, so this was like I just I watched this match, but I couldn't take it seriously and no, and it was Jack Perry's first win in AEW.

01:07:01.928 --> 01:07:02.688
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they went through it.

01:07:02.748 --> 01:07:04.189
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because that was the whole thing, right?

01:07:04.209 --> 01:07:09.230
[SPEAKER_01]: They had the Jack Perry had this long losing streak and then he got a win, but he never had a singles win.

01:07:09.270 --> 01:07:11.331
[SPEAKER_01]: And then eventually he was feeding with Jericho.

01:07:11.351 --> 01:07:12.891
[SPEAKER_01]: And actually it wasn't much after this.

01:07:13.091 --> 01:07:15.732
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it was like a couple weeks later, where you had a match with Jericho.

01:07:16.392 --> 01:07:18.593
[SPEAKER_01]: And he lasted ten minutes or something.

01:07:19.053 --> 01:07:20.093
[SPEAKER_01]: And then he got a title shot.

01:07:20.113 --> 01:07:21.634
[SPEAKER_01]: Is it was it?

01:07:21.654 --> 01:07:22.634
[SPEAKER_01]: Because he was still, yeah.

01:07:22.814 --> 01:07:24.895
[SPEAKER_01]: And then it was before, and Moxie was going to win the title.

01:07:25.987 --> 01:07:27.428
[SPEAKER_01]: Like a month and a half after this.

01:07:27.488 --> 01:07:32.791
[SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, this is the board of the vortex of Jericho when he was having matches with like orange Cassidy.

01:07:32.811 --> 01:07:47.840
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'll get the get over and so whenever anybody tells you that Jericho never got anyone over, they will come back at you and say, Oh, no, look at Jack Perry, you know, like he's over because of Jericho, you know, it's not it's kind of thing to do with the nineteen thousand pushes they gave him.

01:07:48.360 --> 01:07:51.482
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's like people say that

01:07:52.582 --> 01:08:00.809
[SPEAKER_03]: plate Christians getting over because he's having bangers, but still losing until I've even heard, you know, Jericho got MJF over.

01:08:03.572 --> 01:08:09.317
[SPEAKER_01]: MJF was worked for the top guy in the company from the party got MJF over shut up.

01:08:09.697 --> 01:08:09.937
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:08:10.098 --> 01:08:11.078
[SPEAKER_01]: No, it was Jericho.

01:08:11.799 --> 01:08:18.145
[SPEAKER_03]: Although shout out to Excalibur for the two thousand nine PWG named drop of men of low moral fiber.

01:08:18.751 --> 01:08:20.572
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, he got Darby over.

01:08:20.592 --> 01:08:22.273
[SPEAKER_01]: He got Orange Cassidy over.

01:08:22.293 --> 01:08:46.725
[SPEAKER_01]: Jericho is like, he's the main, the main, the main, the main, the main, the main, the main, the main, the main, the main, the main, the main, the main, the main, the main, the main, the main, the main, the main, the main, the main, the main, the main, the main, the main, the main, the main, the main, the main, the main, the main, the main, the main, the main, the main, the main, the main, the main, the main, the main, the main, the main, the main, the main, the main, the main, the main, the main, the main, the main, the main, the main, the main, the main, the main, the main, the main, the main, the main, the main, the main, the main, the main, the main, the main, the main, the main, the

01:08:48.298 --> 01:08:58.271
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and they point out, and now I want to watch next week's show and I will eventually, but next week, Diamond Dahl's page is going to be wrestling on the show into Trio's match.

01:08:58.732 --> 01:08:59.093
[SPEAKER_04]: Uh-huh.

01:08:59.753 --> 01:08:59.954
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:09:00.930 --> 01:09:02.151
[SPEAKER_01]: So we got Chris Jericho.

01:09:02.171 --> 01:09:05.112
[SPEAKER_01]: So that was actually the main event in terms of in-ring action.

01:09:05.812 --> 01:09:14.356
[SPEAKER_01]: And so they have up the next segment, which is going to be John Lotz is going to answer Chris Jericho's offer to join the inner circle.

01:09:14.376 --> 01:09:18.998
[SPEAKER_01]: And you'll recall last week, Chris Jericho gave him a car or he stole the car.

01:09:19.018 --> 01:09:20.058
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not exactly sure.

01:09:20.958 --> 01:09:23.079
[SPEAKER_03]: Can I catch off here for a second?

01:09:23.519 --> 01:09:23.860
[SPEAKER_01]: You can.

01:09:23.940 --> 01:09:29.462
[SPEAKER_03]: I recall people being very angry that this was the main event segment.

01:09:30.885 --> 01:09:34.148
[SPEAKER_03]: And it felt like something that would happen in Stanford.

01:09:34.948 --> 01:09:43.376
[SPEAKER_01]: I had people tell me when I told them we were reviewing this show that it was a two hour monologue with Jericho and Mox, and there was no wrestling on the show.

01:09:44.096 --> 01:09:45.117
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what I was told.

01:09:46.178 --> 01:09:47.519
[SPEAKER_03]: I love to this angle.

01:09:48.060 --> 01:09:48.560
[SPEAKER_03]: I loved it.

01:09:48.600 --> 01:09:48.820
[SPEAKER_03]: I loved it.

01:09:48.840 --> 01:09:48.960
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.

01:09:49.020 --> 01:09:50.722
[SPEAKER_03]: I thought it was so fantastic.

01:09:51.223 --> 01:09:55.587
[SPEAKER_01]: It was, this was perfect professional wrestling and it was the best serve.

01:09:55.667 --> 01:09:57.448
[SPEAKER_03]: I think I've seen AEW do.

01:09:58.169 --> 01:10:02.312
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, no, I think the best one was MJF and the pinnacle, but this was right up there.

01:10:03.893 --> 01:10:07.296
[SPEAKER_03]: Actually, now you're probably right, even though the pinnacle never became anything.

01:10:07.596 --> 01:10:10.479
[SPEAKER_03]: No, no, and the set up for it was fantastic.

01:10:12.241 --> 01:10:19.427
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, so last week, they showed that the thing at the beginning of the show, Chris Jericho offered John Moxie spot in the inner circle gave McCarr.

01:10:20.748 --> 01:10:24.472
[SPEAKER_01]: Now Jericho comes out and he's got Gavara and Jake Hager.

01:10:24.672 --> 01:10:25.893
[SPEAKER_01]: No Centenary T's.

01:10:26.013 --> 01:10:28.215
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not exactly sure why they weren't there.

01:10:28.495 --> 01:10:31.178
[SPEAKER_01]: But maybe they're already having problems with the inner circle.

01:10:31.198 --> 01:10:31.478
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

01:10:32.158 --> 01:10:34.781
[SPEAKER_01]: But he gives Moxie an intro and he comes out and

01:10:35.929 --> 01:10:41.895
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, another thing where my memory has failed me, I thought that John Moxley has always come through the crowd.

01:10:45.238 --> 01:10:48.862
[SPEAKER_01]: And that stems back from WWE when he came in through the crowd with the shield.

01:10:50.221 --> 01:10:56.825
[SPEAKER_03]: You're also thinking his intro for a W was him coming through the crowd and then attacking Kenny on top of the stack, which I was there for.

01:10:57.245 --> 01:11:01.007
[SPEAKER_01]: And in my mind, I thought, oh, that just kept going to now.

01:11:01.127 --> 01:11:03.949
[SPEAKER_01]: And even when he was in the Blackville combat club, he came in through the crowd.

01:11:04.469 --> 01:11:06.791
[SPEAKER_01]: But no, here he was coming in through the heel tunnel.

01:11:07.251 --> 01:11:08.271
[SPEAKER_01]: But I should point out.

01:11:08.732 --> 01:11:10.573
[SPEAKER_01]: I think he was still in the heel tunnel at this point.

01:11:11.854 --> 01:11:18.818
[SPEAKER_01]: But so he comes out and Jericho puts him over as his friend and his protege.

01:11:20.178 --> 01:11:26.803
[SPEAKER_01]: He said, this is an important day in Memphis, and it's not because it's Elvis Presley's birthday, because Elvis was an ass, and I'd kick his ass.

01:11:26.883 --> 01:11:27.544
[SPEAKER_01]: Beatles were better.

01:11:28.525 --> 01:11:31.127
[SPEAKER_01]: It's because John Mox is going to join my inner circle.

01:11:31.667 --> 01:11:33.268
[SPEAKER_01]: He asked him how your car is.

01:11:33.909 --> 01:11:40.714
[SPEAKER_01]: He said, or, well, he pointed out or he's in Santana holding down the club, because they're going to have a party all night, and no fans are invited.

01:11:40.774 --> 01:11:42.175
[SPEAKER_01]: So they're just, they're holding the club.

01:11:43.564 --> 01:11:48.205
[SPEAKER_01]: He asks Marx, we can be part of the intercircle and John says, I've had a lot of time to think about this.

01:11:48.325 --> 01:11:51.606
[SPEAKER_01]: And there's more that made it went into this decision than you might think.

01:11:52.326 --> 01:11:55.167
[SPEAKER_01]: You might think you know what makes me tick, but the truth is you don't.

01:11:55.967 --> 01:11:58.428
[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't think, well, he said, nobody knows.

01:11:58.508 --> 01:11:59.528
[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't think you do either.

01:11:59.909 --> 01:12:04.050
[SPEAKER_01]: He says, you offered me car, money, forty-nine percent of the intercircle.

01:12:04.070 --> 01:12:04.770
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want any of it.

01:12:05.626 --> 01:12:09.770
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't come here because somebody backed up a house truck full of money to my house.

01:12:10.130 --> 01:12:10.891
[SPEAKER_01]: I can't be bought.

01:12:11.271 --> 01:12:13.594
[SPEAKER_01]: I came to run rough shot over professional wrestling.

01:12:13.634 --> 01:12:14.594
[SPEAKER_01]: I came to dominate.

01:12:15.675 --> 01:12:19.579
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's why my answer is yes.

01:12:21.241 --> 01:12:23.082
[SPEAKER_01]: And the crowd gasps.

01:12:23.966 --> 01:12:25.667
[SPEAKER_01]: John Moxley takes off his jacket.

01:12:25.707 --> 01:12:27.569
[SPEAKER_01]: He's wearing an inner circle t-shirt.

01:12:28.289 --> 01:12:31.332
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, I saw this when it happened.

01:12:31.492 --> 01:12:32.893
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm still watching this now.

01:12:32.953 --> 01:12:34.794
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, I can't believe what I'm seeing.

01:12:35.515 --> 01:12:37.796
[SPEAKER_01]: And he's pan around with Chris Jericho.

01:12:37.896 --> 01:12:41.019
[SPEAKER_01]: And this is when Chris Jericho had his little bit of the bubbly.

01:12:41.099 --> 01:12:44.481
[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, they're they're break open some bubbly.

01:12:45.562 --> 01:13:06.891
[SPEAKER_01]: And Jericho's gloating he says I told you so and Mox says if you want to be great you have to learn from the grades and the pea brains out there might not be a little mid it but the fact is Chris Jericho is the greatest of all time I'll stand with him all surround myself with greatness and will dominate a w for years to come so there's only one thing left to do and he looks at Jericho and smiles and they're like

01:13:07.051 --> 01:13:15.714
[SPEAKER_01]: pop open the bubbly and they go and they pop open the shed and fans are chanting you sold out like they're completely buying this.

01:13:16.814 --> 01:13:18.955
[SPEAKER_01]: It was like you said it was brilliant.

01:13:20.116 --> 01:13:25.498
[SPEAKER_01]: Then why two jagos on he says twenty twenty is going to be here in the inner circle and we're going to spray bubbly all over the ring.

01:13:25.958 --> 01:13:28.699
[SPEAKER_01]: Chris asked for his music to play Judas plays.

01:13:29.179 --> 01:13:32.060
[SPEAKER_01]: Moxley Huggs Kegger they're celebrating

01:13:32.520 --> 01:13:50.259
[SPEAKER_01]: Jericho says it's the beginning of the intercircle taken over a W so you can all shut up and watch us do it and then he tells the some fans as he's sucking it Chris as you suck and shots as you got a problem with him you got a problem with me and and then mox you know you just says oh Chris by the way I forgot something

01:13:51.118 --> 01:13:53.780
[SPEAKER_01]: And Jericho says, oh, yeah, I owe you a little something.

01:13:53.840 --> 01:13:59.465
[SPEAKER_01]: And he grabs the car keys and it gives him to John and he says, you know, how much this car is worth, right?

01:13:59.525 --> 01:14:02.647
[SPEAKER_01]: And he gives him the keys and again, the fans are trying to use sold out.

01:14:03.588 --> 01:14:10.714
[SPEAKER_01]: And moxley gets on the mic and he says, you know, I was going to run my twenty fifteen Dodge ram until the wheels fell off to like I got the gift to Jericho.

01:14:11.555 --> 01:14:14.237
[SPEAKER_01]: And then why did you say this fans are saying you sold out?

01:14:14.277 --> 01:14:16.218
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you did sell out all these shows.

01:14:16.619 --> 01:14:20.542
[SPEAKER_01]: We won our matches of the Tokyo Don't We're together now in AWS hit the music.

01:14:21.449 --> 01:14:25.692
[SPEAKER_01]: The music starts playing Jericho's free and bubbly Sammy and Jake leave.

01:14:26.512 --> 01:14:27.793
[SPEAKER_01]: And John says, Oh, cut the music.

01:14:27.973 --> 01:14:28.874
[SPEAKER_01]: I forgot one more thing.

01:14:30.335 --> 01:14:34.818
[SPEAKER_00]: I was just kidding.

01:14:34.838 --> 01:14:36.339
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not joining your stupid group.

01:14:36.359 --> 01:14:39.641
[SPEAKER_00]: It's over there for the champagne bottle.

01:14:43.560 --> 01:15:00.689
[SPEAKER_03]: It went on so long to hook people and then he just just the natural that there was even any like like Jericho will put in that that pro wrestling flare and then, you know, and with that kind of thing, it actually just has no compunction.

01:15:01.870 --> 01:15:02.310
[SPEAKER_00]: I lied.

01:15:02.931 --> 01:15:07.435
[SPEAKER_00]: And then he had to say, I'm not joining your stupid group.

01:15:08.155 --> 01:15:09.256
[SPEAKER_00]: That was the capper.

01:15:09.656 --> 01:15:11.878
[SPEAKER_01]: That was like, uh, I don't know.

01:15:11.918 --> 01:15:13.539
[SPEAKER_01]: There's there's another line like that.

01:15:13.980 --> 01:15:23.487
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, it reminds me of when Tangman says dumbass, like it's just the same kind of delivery like just so dismissive and Jericho was so hurt.

01:15:24.448 --> 01:15:30.953
[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, so he hits him with the paradigm shift and he laid out Gavara and took off with the car keys.

01:15:31.533 --> 01:15:32.093
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's it.

01:15:32.173 --> 01:15:39.578
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, he got a car and he laid out the champ and this was all leading to revolution where he was going to win the AW World title.

01:15:40.799 --> 01:15:41.280
[SPEAKER_01]: It was great.

01:15:42.380 --> 01:15:43.881
[SPEAKER_01]: Transferring he'd have a question.

01:15:43.921 --> 01:15:48.464
[SPEAKER_01]: He wants to know if the show felt like it had more of a show long thread compared to the current day AW.

01:15:48.484 --> 01:15:50.486
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think so.

01:15:51.406 --> 01:15:55.730
[SPEAKER_01]: I honestly didn't even remember the Jericho moxie thing was going to happen until it actually happened.

01:15:56.151 --> 01:15:59.113
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's not like they did anything throughout the show to build to it.

01:15:59.834 --> 01:16:01.215
[SPEAKER_03]: No, this was still in

01:16:02.450 --> 01:16:05.231
[SPEAKER_03]: The time when people had certain thief dumps, I think.

01:16:06.352 --> 01:16:08.332
[SPEAKER_03]: And yours, your segment, here's your segment.

01:16:09.133 --> 01:16:09.953
[SPEAKER_03]: Here's your segment.

01:16:10.853 --> 01:16:13.134
[SPEAKER_03]: It still feels like a very disjointed company to me.

01:16:13.154 --> 01:16:14.135
[SPEAKER_01]: A little bit.

01:16:14.175 --> 01:16:14.455
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:16:14.975 --> 01:16:22.258
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, and there was, and the other thing was, is they were at the states where they're doing like four paper views a year.

01:16:23.058 --> 01:16:33.704
[SPEAKER_01]: and we're like right in the middle of between revolution and or full gear and revolution and the time frame between full gear and revolution is like three and a half months.

01:16:34.285 --> 01:16:35.706
[SPEAKER_01]: So we're like right in the middle of that.

01:16:35.786 --> 01:16:40.048
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's not like we got this is like basically the start of Jericho moxley.

01:16:40.508 --> 01:16:43.290
[SPEAKER_01]: There's nothing else while they're obviously building Cody and MJF.

01:16:43.610 --> 01:16:46.692
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's more you know what I would say transferring heat

01:16:47.640 --> 01:16:53.604
[SPEAKER_01]: It's more like we jumped into the middle of a continuing story of a bunch of continuing story lines.

01:16:54.264 --> 01:16:58.407
[SPEAKER_01]: But I'm very confident that if we watch next week, we will see these story lines continued.

01:16:58.447 --> 01:17:05.411
[SPEAKER_01]: Whereas now, unless you're in like the last two weeks before a paper view, it's like, you don't know what you're getting week to week.

01:17:05.831 --> 01:17:06.932
[SPEAKER_01]: It'll all a lot of times.

01:17:07.452 --> 01:17:17.158
[SPEAKER_01]: So in that sense, I think, you know, they're not necessarily show line story lines, but their story lines that continue from show to show to show, if that makes sense.

01:17:19.596 --> 01:17:20.137
[SPEAKER_01]: Would you agree?

01:17:20.999 --> 01:17:21.239
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

01:17:21.840 --> 01:17:22.101
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

01:17:23.507 --> 01:17:25.348
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but yeah, this angle was great.

01:17:25.928 --> 01:17:34.410
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, this is one that people remember, um, you know, to this day, although again, like I said, when it happened, like, I knew he wasn't going to join.

01:17:34.650 --> 01:17:40.092
[SPEAKER_01]: And I knew, like, I kind of in the back of my head knew that he kind of did the fake out, but I didn't remember how good it was.

01:17:40.912 --> 01:17:46.474
[SPEAKER_01]: Like watching it, and, and especially like when it ended, it was like just so sudden.

01:17:47.254 --> 01:17:49.375
[SPEAKER_03]: I kind of missed fun, Moxley.

01:17:50.692 --> 01:17:57.578
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, everything's been so dark with them and they're just kind of like, that kind of started with the Briegel.

01:17:57.858 --> 01:18:11.449
[SPEAKER_01]: Like with the BC and then yeah, we went to another level with the deathwriters and and you know, and then the personal like real life stuff to, you know, kind of plays into his character and so it's kind of hard for him to be fun at this point.

01:18:12.248 --> 01:18:12.488
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

01:18:12.628 --> 01:18:14.050
[SPEAKER_01]: And he's kind of a dried drunk now.

01:18:14.730 --> 01:18:18.373
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, because that needs to say probably not.

01:18:19.133 --> 01:18:22.176
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but yeah, so yeah, I know I, I get what you're saying.

01:18:22.216 --> 01:18:25.098
[SPEAKER_01]: And like honestly, like the whole thing, like the bucks are fun.

01:18:26.219 --> 01:18:28.761
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, if you like, I don't find them that fun.

01:18:28.781 --> 01:18:29.762
[SPEAKER_03]: I find them.

01:18:29.782 --> 01:18:31.643
[SPEAKER_01]: Awesome.

01:18:31.663 --> 01:18:32.043
[SPEAKER_01]: It's fine.

01:18:34.915 --> 01:18:42.360
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but they're all, I mean, they're all doing no, no, it's not fun because they're doing corporate politics and stuff and you're just like, that's not fun.

01:18:42.400 --> 01:18:43.721
[SPEAKER_03]: That's not wrestling to me.

01:18:44.442 --> 01:18:47.704
[SPEAKER_01]: See, like, this, like, the kind of the goofy.

01:18:47.944 --> 01:18:50.246
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, well, we don't take ourselves too seriously.

01:18:50.786 --> 01:18:53.388
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, you can take yourself seriously, but I mean, just like,

01:18:54.883 --> 01:19:00.145
[SPEAKER_03]: Stop intertwining it with almost the real-life story of the company.

01:19:00.926 --> 01:19:10.370
[SPEAKER_03]: Kind of a thing like the horsemen were goofy, but they could be serious at times too, but like, you know, some of their angles against dusty and stuff were still fun.

01:19:10.970 --> 01:19:12.611
[SPEAKER_03]: Back then, they kind of had nothing to lose.

01:19:13.271 --> 01:19:13.771
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?

01:19:13.791 --> 01:19:18.875
[SPEAKER_01]: Like they were just out there and they were a new company and they were doing way better than anybody thought they would ever do.

01:19:18.895 --> 01:19:21.497
[SPEAKER_03]: And they were trying to be all things all people though.

01:19:21.517 --> 01:19:22.577
[SPEAKER_03]: That was that was the thing.

01:19:23.178 --> 01:19:25.099
[SPEAKER_01]: But I mean like they're drawing like you look at the numbers.

01:19:25.139 --> 01:19:26.940
[SPEAKER_01]: They were drawing like transferring heat put them up earlier.

01:19:26.980 --> 01:19:30.183
[SPEAKER_01]: Like almost a million viewers point three six in the demo.

01:19:30.323 --> 01:19:31.824
[SPEAKER_01]: They were drawing live though.

01:19:31.844 --> 01:19:33.925
[SPEAKER_01]: This one only half thirty one hundred people there.

01:19:34.045 --> 01:19:34.305
[SPEAKER_01]: True.

01:19:34.506 --> 01:19:36.027
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's using the first sign, right?

01:19:36.767 --> 01:19:43.689
[SPEAKER_01]: And honestly, if you, well, and then, you know, it's unfair to like say how things went in twenty twenty because I mean, we're, this is the other thing.

01:19:44.010 --> 01:19:48.671
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't mention this, but as the show's going on, they're doing the on sale dates that are coming up.

01:19:48.951 --> 01:19:51.892
[SPEAKER_01]: And one of them was March eighteenth in Newark.

01:19:52.853 --> 01:19:54.713
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's like, well, that shows not happening.

01:19:56.034 --> 01:19:59.535
[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, and, and it was then it was like, oh, man, these poor

01:20:00.907 --> 01:20:02.287
[SPEAKER_01]: fuckers, they don't know what they're in for.

01:20:02.307 --> 01:20:03.928
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, it's what's coming next.

01:20:04.648 --> 01:20:13.131
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, and then I even COVID was out there, but it wasn't anything we were terribly concerned with, although week to week, it would get more and more as it came closer.

01:20:13.931 --> 01:20:18.453
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, so if people the next time we do this, uh, don't make us watch out.

01:20:19.243 --> 01:20:20.803
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm giving a show, please.

01:20:21.163 --> 01:20:21.403
[SPEAKER_00]: No.

01:20:22.524 --> 01:20:23.864
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, maybe the Brody Lee show.

01:20:23.944 --> 01:20:25.104
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I guess there were fans there.

01:20:25.144 --> 01:20:27.804
[SPEAKER_01]: Like those ones with fans at the Daily's place, they're not too bad.

01:20:28.265 --> 01:20:31.965
[SPEAKER_01]: I guess the ones I never want to see again are those ones from QT's gym.

01:20:34.106 --> 01:20:39.867
[SPEAKER_01]: I appreciate them at the time because they were so much better than what WWE was doing, but I never want to see those again.

01:20:40.927 --> 01:20:43.147
[SPEAKER_03]: Thunderdome show with the gold role models.

01:20:43.287 --> 01:20:45.468
[SPEAKER_03]: That's the only FDA rena show I will watch.

01:20:45.948 --> 01:20:46.288
[SPEAKER_01]: Really?

01:20:47.048 --> 01:20:48.028
[SPEAKER_01]: And only their segment.

01:20:49.550 --> 01:20:50.890
[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe Oscar being crazy.

01:20:52.111 --> 01:20:52.731
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:20:52.851 --> 01:20:53.191
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, man.

01:20:53.211 --> 01:20:54.411
[SPEAKER_01]: That's just hard to watch.

01:20:54.571 --> 01:20:56.712
[SPEAKER_01]: Sometimes a little air video packages and you'll see that stuff.

01:20:56.752 --> 01:20:59.592
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's like, I don't know if I want to see that again.

01:20:59.672 --> 01:21:01.093
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah.

01:21:02.393 --> 01:21:05.154
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, transferring heat almost picked the Jade Cargo debut one worse.

01:21:06.814 --> 01:21:08.154
[SPEAKER_01]: Eight dollars into the next one.

01:21:08.194 --> 01:21:10.075
[SPEAKER_01]: So seventeen more dollars and we'll do another one of these.

01:21:11.455 --> 01:21:15.216
[SPEAKER_03]: So yes, you mean debut match or debut.

01:21:16.981 --> 01:21:20.804
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, well, because wasn't the match that wasn't that the shack man?

01:21:20.864 --> 01:21:21.204
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

01:21:21.544 --> 01:21:22.565
[SPEAKER_01]: That would be fun to watch.

01:21:23.325 --> 01:21:26.287
[SPEAKER_01]: And that is an empty arena one, but I mean, it's, I mean, they're fans there.

01:21:27.327 --> 01:21:30.829
[SPEAKER_01]: But that was, yeah, that was the one where he went into the ambulance.

01:21:30.869 --> 01:21:32.350
[SPEAKER_01]: Red velvet MVP.

01:21:32.790 --> 01:21:35.012
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, debut promo or her debut promo.

01:21:35.352 --> 01:21:36.052
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.

01:21:36.232 --> 01:21:37.513
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:21:38.134 --> 01:21:42.316
[SPEAKER_01]: I wouldn't say, well, she wasn't here, but I don't know if she's better off now than she was then.

01:21:45.172 --> 01:21:48.537
[SPEAKER_01]: Actually, that's a way to set off people in that in your other group.

01:21:49.258 --> 01:21:52.764
[SPEAKER_01]: Tell them that Jade Cargill is a bigger star now than she was in a W. They don't like that.

01:21:52.804 --> 01:21:53.205
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

01:21:53.846 --> 01:21:54.587
[SPEAKER_01]: They don't like that.

01:21:55.523 --> 01:21:56.784
[SPEAKER_01]: make that point in the discord.

01:21:57.525 --> 01:21:59.687
[SPEAKER_03]: And they'll protect your weaknesses a little bit better.

01:22:00.027 --> 01:22:00.488
[SPEAKER_03]: They do.

01:22:01.108 --> 01:22:03.250
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's not like she's in the good, but she is.

01:22:03.270 --> 01:22:07.273
[SPEAKER_03]: No, but she was in there with Oscar and you don't have to be that good to be.

01:22:07.354 --> 01:22:07.954
[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.

01:22:08.314 --> 01:22:11.938
[SPEAKER_01]: And she is a big star regardless of whether or not you think she's having banners.

01:22:12.418 --> 01:22:13.259
[SPEAKER_01]: That music hits.

01:22:13.779 --> 01:22:20.105
[SPEAKER_03]: She does her pose people pop more people know WWE than AEW and dirty little secret.

01:22:21.384 --> 01:22:23.547
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, so that is that's going to do it.

01:22:23.747 --> 01:22:26.391
[SPEAKER_01]: We did almost our regular full time, which is good.

01:22:27.393 --> 01:22:27.934
[SPEAKER_01]: I enjoyed this.

01:22:27.994 --> 01:22:29.596
[SPEAKER_01]: Thanks transferring heat for picking this show.

01:22:30.618 --> 01:22:34.905
[SPEAKER_01]: But if the next one we do is from like a different year, I'd be cool with that too.

01:22:36.987 --> 01:22:38.527
[SPEAKER_01]: I had a hard time finding this show.

01:22:39.508 --> 01:22:52.371
[SPEAKER_01]: The way that Trillard lists their thing, the stuff at the beginning of the years, way at the bottom, and as the scrolling down, you get to like July, and then it says more, so then I'm going down, down, down, and get to March, and it says more February, January.

01:22:52.471 --> 01:22:58.492
[SPEAKER_01]: I get to January, twenty-nine, and then I go down one more, and then the next one is July, eight, and it just starts cycling again.

01:22:58.872 --> 01:23:06.014
[SPEAKER_01]: So eventually I had to type in January, eighth, twenty, twenty, episode two, twenty into the search bar, and that's how I ended up finding it.

01:23:06.494 --> 01:23:09.895
[SPEAKER_03]: It took me like, I went to max, I went to max, I'd be five minutes.

01:23:09.975 --> 01:23:11.316
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I don't have much.

01:23:12.356 --> 01:23:16.478
[SPEAKER_01]: Unfortunately, so happy for the July to you too, transferring heat.

01:23:16.538 --> 01:23:20.620
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm I'm in Canada, so we already had our agenda, our July first, so tomorrow's just can be Friday.

01:23:22.708 --> 01:23:25.189
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if you want to do plugs again, you already didn't last night.

01:23:25.209 --> 01:23:28.570
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, because this is a timeless show.

01:23:29.090 --> 01:23:33.472
[SPEAKER_03]: Shake them ropes on the voices of wrestling podcast network myself in Chris novemberino.

01:23:34.172 --> 01:23:38.974
[SPEAKER_03]: Do a lighthearted yet somewhat snarky take on the weeks American wrestling.

01:23:39.295 --> 01:23:44.837
[SPEAKER_03]: We do a what we call the lazy river of wrestling criticism whatever we watched whatever we had time for.

01:23:45.377 --> 01:23:45.937
[SPEAKER_03]: We bring it up.

01:23:46.137 --> 01:23:47.438
[SPEAKER_03]: We have Vader club where

01:23:48.058 --> 01:23:49.059
[SPEAKER_03]: We both pick a match.

01:23:49.559 --> 01:23:52.901
[SPEAKER_03]: We really liked because sometimes the American wrestling is lacking.

01:23:53.582 --> 01:23:59.085
[SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, and it dropped usually Friday, Saturday, sometimes Sunday.

01:23:59.405 --> 01:24:02.447
[SPEAKER_03]: It's later in the weeks that we can get to all the wrestling if we have time.

01:24:03.677 --> 01:24:04.057
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

01:24:04.357 --> 01:24:08.679
[SPEAKER_01]: And I will have the take down with Garrett Gonzalez on Monday.

01:24:09.099 --> 01:24:11.660
[SPEAKER_01]: If you're listening on audio, it'll probably be up later today.

01:24:12.220 --> 01:24:16.822
[SPEAKER_01]: And then we throw clips up throughout the week of the different things we talked about on the show.

01:24:16.962 --> 01:24:19.183
[SPEAKER_01]: So whatever happens is coming weekend.

01:24:19.323 --> 01:24:20.523
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what we'll talk about on Monday.

01:24:21.024 --> 01:24:24.425
[SPEAKER_01]: Might be a dead week because of the July fourth holiday who knows.

01:24:25.253 --> 01:24:33.980
[SPEAKER_01]: And then Jeff and I will be back for my last show in studio for a couple weeks, but I will bring my stuff with me and I'll continue doing the show on the road.

01:24:34.660 --> 01:24:35.801
[SPEAKER_01]: Could be some interesting shows.

01:24:35.841 --> 01:24:38.823
[SPEAKER_01]: Probably won't be as long as the usual ones, but they'll be fun.

01:24:39.344 --> 01:24:44.508
[SPEAKER_01]: And Jeff's going to clean me in on what I missed on social media throughout the week or not.

01:24:46.029 --> 01:24:48.831
[SPEAKER_03]: So I'd be fun not to because it goes like,

01:24:49.530 --> 01:24:53.053
[SPEAKER_03]: My other co-host has no idea what's going on on social media.

01:24:53.073 --> 01:24:54.274
[SPEAKER_03]: So he's very blissful.

01:24:54.374 --> 01:24:55.235
[SPEAKER_03]: He enjoys it.

01:24:55.475 --> 01:24:56.636
[SPEAKER_01]: So he just watches the shows.

01:24:57.937 --> 01:24:58.998
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what I'm going to try to do.

01:24:59.438 --> 01:25:01.199
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm going to stay out of the discord.

01:25:01.219 --> 01:25:06.023
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to stay off X and see if my experience watching is any different.

01:25:07.044 --> 01:25:07.384
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll see.

01:25:08.185 --> 01:25:14.430
[SPEAKER_01]: So for Jeff Hawkins, I've been Paul Fontaine and this has been the dynamite show rewind.