AEW Dynasty Recap: MJF vs Kenny Omega & New Champions Crowned | AEW Postgame Live

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[SPEAKER_02]: Hello, and welcome to the AEW dynasty fight game media post show.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I am Jeremy Findstone and with me is the semi retired, but not tonight.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Kevin.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Not tonight.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He is back.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Our former the boom host and AEW my my first AEW pay per view recap post partner.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's back.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's here to help us out because

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[SPEAKER_02]: All of that's what it's not doing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They should go tonight.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so I reached out to Gavin a couple of weeks you know, and hey, you want to, you want to just off the microphone and the headphones and and give your thoughts on AEW.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So you said yes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Here you are.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We've watched a five hour paper view.

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[SPEAKER_02]: How are you, Kevin?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I woke up this morning in Atlanta, Georgia.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Caught a plane to Dallas, drove from Dallas to my home

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I knew I had to be here because it's been, it's been way too long.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's literally been since all in last year when I called in from like a portillose with a really shaky phone line after the show and that we've actually done something together.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I just show up for the AEW monthly shows.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't do any week with stuff.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I would lose my mind if I had to separate AEW weekly just making have your toe of their launch at some time because just I want to see the destination not the journey there sometimes, we can assess it from there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: been doing these shows ever since.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I have missed you.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I am glad that you are back.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think the first thing I want to ask you is, what's it been like watching AEW without having to report back on a podcast?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Have you stayed up with the product?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Are you liking the product more than you have in the past?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Where you out with all the things?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Stay to the human.

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[SPEAKER_00]: say to the end, say to the union of my fandom, I would say to bring up all in again, that was peak for a long while.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I attended in person and that was, you know, I came out of that super fan again, not since I was since the fall of 21 probably, you know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Then there was this residency in the ECW arena that just broke my spirit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and fell really out of it for a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would never, I probably always watch Dynamite.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's, I don't think I've missed a single Dynamite since 2019 ever.

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[SPEAKER_02]: What about it?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I kicked you off of the, kicked you off of the Vibetrain.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Really just the Vibetrain.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just, you know, you go from like, all of your favorite stories getting resolved in a stadium and then watching,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like kind of a cosplay, you know, yeah, it just felt it was like early pandemic vibes almost it was like okay

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I have stayed up with it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've stayed engaged in the discord, so I still up on the talk in the opinions.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it was nice not to have to formulate, have some half-baked thoughts more often, and get corrected in private instead of public.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There's a little bit of certainty here.

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[SPEAKER_02]: If you get it wrong, you hear me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's all right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's all right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, I'm back on the upswing, I think.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I personally have been really enjoying the MJF reign.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm glad to see you continue, actually.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think Tony Con likes to book yields.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I get that feeling.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, every, a lot of you'll go on tonight, Kevin.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like almost all of them and maybe some that don't know their hills yet.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah going into Wembley feels like they're they're trying to make the hills all powerful all knowing all getting unbeatable.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: God that will be toppled by or the next generation of heroes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And yes, I feel like that was the sub plot to what I thought was a really good paper view.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And an easy to watch when surprisingly.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, not enough blood, not too.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, uh, there was a lot of self-control and I was really appreciative of what he got to the main event and it was uh, nine, uh, an hour and 40 minutes ago from someone we're here.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And there was a part of me that was like, oh, it, uh,

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[SPEAKER_02]: We're three and a half hours into the show and we're in the main event.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, this main event is going a long time.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you know, there were the entrances and hatch and tree and the match itself.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to be honest because you I think they had a better match in them somewhere and it wasn't in the match tonight.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was very good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We're better matches in the card somewhere and we'll get to a

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hmm, I don't know if I'd agree with myself.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't feel like it let me down, but I think that's partly my own expectations of Kenny at this point.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I have pretty much...

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[SPEAKER_00]: resign myself to the fact that you're never going to get the killer, Kenny, like the he'll fit half back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, and he so he exceeded my expectations, but he did look a little like, okay, he's, you know, he's 80% of what he used to be and, you know, and like Brian said, 80, you know, on the show, 80% of or even 60% of him is better than, you know, 98% of the

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[SPEAKER_02]: Let me reframe this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I believe that MJF and Kenny Omega are probably in the top 10, if not the top five best wrestlers in the world right now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I did not believe that they had a match that showed that they were two of the top five wrestlers in the world.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think they had a better match in them.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's not to say the match wasn't excellent.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I do think that there were better matches on the card.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And given who those two are, oh, I'm sure everything that comes with the weight of a main event of a Kenny Omega engine, I felt like it didn't quite hit what it needed to hit.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But it still delivered on what I thought was an incredibly even incredibly well-done, easy to watch people do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I agree.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think part of that is even choices they made about how they how they chose to book the show and even order it to like, for instance, going ahead and committing to a 20 minute time limit for mox and will.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Instead of doing a 40 minute, you know, tour, you didn't have like you didn't have a giant epic.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You could say the first match was kind of that, but like you didn't have those giant exhausting matches three in a row so that you were tired.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think by the end of that, you gave them a little grace where they didn't have to hit as high as they did to hit well, I see what you're saying though, they definitely both had better matches in them.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think, yes, and this is not to say that that wasn't like.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Were the Evan AEW made a fan like they didn't both like kill themselves.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They didn't You know like if it wasn't what's walking that fine line and like Being the asshole because you get an A you didn't get an A plus.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think some of that is, I think some of that is Kenny and Kenny and Max's approach to what they're doing because number one, so I think on one hand, what Kenny's working with is he is one of the most detailed storytellers ever right and he could tell immaculate stories.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think Max is interested in that kind of match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he is on a Mac.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he is on a macro level, but his moments are big.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like his, he goes big and Kenny sometimes has like really more nuanced stuff in there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they don't have the history, they've had, you know, one really good match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't remember how many matches they've had, you know, notably over time, but like, they don't have the history to build to what Kenny can really do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't, I don't, I think in their mind, the goal was Max,

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[SPEAKER_00]: just being like the Delaware winds, you know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sure.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's got to be the guy that is unbeatable to the point that when the Owen Hart come around and build the loser finally overcome everything and wins the Owen Hart cup and beat him and he overcomes the he overcomes the obstacles that no one else could.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's going to be great moment, but he got well-being a loser a lot and you got

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[SPEAKER_02]: Matt's winning a lot, which are both the paths that you need to take, but other people have to be sacrificed at that altar.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And what happened here tonight?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And yeah, I, you understand what I'm saying about the main event.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The rest of the show, I just, I want to compliment the entire company.

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[SPEAKER_02]: for resisting the urge of indulgence.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Nobody indulged themselves too much to get all of their shit in.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Every match just with balance, it felt tight, it felt like the stories they had to tell to keep it in there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And it almost felt

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[SPEAKER_02]: based off of some of the plans coming out of Wednesday that this was their mission statement to just be like, yeah, we know WrestleMania next week, but yeah, this is the shit that this is the shit that we do and we do.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, we have a couple of comments before we get underway on the show.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's knocked it out real quick.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, Curry had said the finishes to the PLE was all surprises and the PLE did not feel long.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, Jeff Hawkins hopes to the dynamite show going to degree that was an imminently watchable paper view and didn't feel like it overstate of welcome might be his favorite for that reason.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, strong words.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Fernando, guys, it's checking in.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Dynasty was fire.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And yeah, that's the main gist of it there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We both watched the zero hour show of, I made a point of making sure that I watched it this time because there had been time where I did not, Stephen, I did not make time for the zero hour.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There were, there were, there were a few matches that are like, you know, I really wanna make time for this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so I got, I got a big Dave Meltzer house around 355 and I walked in the door and I said, hey Dave, that's it going.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was like, oh good, hey Camille's back, and I'm like,

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[SPEAKER_02]: We didn't bury the lead and I didn't look that up like you should just put them where the theater and the divine dominion and call it a day and he's like, well see what happens.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, we did not have to wait very long.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, they did not hide her at all.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Not at all, apparently there was social media posts before zero hour started that showed her assaulting Willow and then the first match on the show was

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[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, this was surprisingly, uh, good to me in the way that I believe that there has been a significant investment by Tony Khan in the women's division in AEW, it's been quiet.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's been consistent, but we're going into a paper view here where there's no Mercedes Monet.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There's no Chris Statwander.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There's no Tony storm.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There may not be a Tony storm for a very long time.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And

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[SPEAKER_02]: the women came on to the show on different aspects of it and it did not feel like they were out of place that they were not big enough for the moment and it goes along with these two.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I thought they had an eggplant match, Al Quimzer, presenting herself as something more than just

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[SPEAKER_02]: will off-brake partner and rate of sheffirits for sending herself more of Roddy Strong partner.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And we have come from a time and a place where a lot of associations would be made.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They have clearly worn a lot from their teachers and their partners, but they came in here and they had a great nine-minute match and I have absolutely no complaint and I think both of them have done exceptionally well for themselves up to their point to getting a match like this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, really struck me, it struck me how used to Marina being pretty good I've gotten like that she's really dialed in on what works for her as a uni performer and doesn't try to do too much and so just.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it feels kind of like a big deal that Marina Shafir just had a great, like a really good match with Alex Windsor, no other support act around her just a totally on her own and you know, for a pre show for a pre show match like first match out of the gate, that's pretty good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Nothing too fad p. I'll clunker.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I really just like her presence.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you carry herself in the ring and even later on in that backstage segment with yeah, I'm the junior hitter.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That drawing birds gimmick has been good for both of them.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I kind of I kind of think it the modern day version of the British Bulldogs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Crossed with APA at a win I and the hard foundation.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but it got, but I don't know, the, I'm just waiting for them to get like a little bird and it's just going to come around.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Just in the cage, like, oh, no, it could happen.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But the next thing we had was a video for Camille and then she came out and defeated someone called big Anne, but I've never received before and I doubt we will ever see again.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She was doing the job to make Camille look.

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[SPEAKER_02]: exceptional in a minute and 25 seconds and Kevin, I don't know what to say about this match, other than can you please tell me the difference between Camille and Jade Cargill?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Jade's a star.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that's really.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, yeah, Jade just makes it look better.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like we're going to see the same presentation of her and it'll be spoken mirrored and we'll see how far it gets.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I believe the kind of everything to do with the American Gladiators like reproduction that's coming out, you know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they mentioned it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Wardle coming back, she even had the she had the flag boots and the red white blue and some could believe, you know, with some.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, consistency that had something to do with political affiliation.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't want to be that guy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm just going to assume this is American gladiator related.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I just going to hope for that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's see, carry ahead.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He says that Jade has charisma and is more athletic than Camille.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I agree with you there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I want to see how their books is right here.

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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, uh, do you have any other thoughts about the Camille and Big Anthony?

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was 90 seconds.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I was glad it was just 90 seconds.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you're going to bring back Camille, just do that with her.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm a little bit of a little bit of a forward.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it sounds like I hope, anyway, that it's just because it's a TBS title match on Wednesday, just right into that and I can't imagine that she's going to come back and wow us with the growth that she's had as an in-ring performer based on her time in American Gladiators.

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[SPEAKER_02]: but I would be so impressed if she actually left for six months and spent that time training in a ring with like a legitimate school.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah and she just came back and wowed us all.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And she actually like got some fundamentals.

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[SPEAKER_02]: What could hope like what could actually like positively oh like hey maybe

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[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe you didn't work here like we will not be talking about how you've done Who in no growth whatsoever, and we're all very disappointed and trying to avoid saying it in the mean display possible Maybe she went and trade Here's a great comment from Lady B that Really just think Capclicks to talk about how she feels about tonight Yeah, I'm always interested.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We had a Kevin night Victor

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, you guys, you don't feel like there was a whole lot there to pop the to pop the champagne over it and to celebrate for and I think better days in our head, but I do too, this is a stage we're going to get to that one.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I have a lot of thoughts in their positive about that one.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, Camille, what's terrible in the NWA for NWA standards that tells you about her, I believe that Curry Head is an advocate for Jade Cargo and that any other comments about this look, whoever are going to a site, a strong advocacy for for Jade and

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm fine with that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm just going to avoid that topic altogether.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that was the same as for another show.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's good for another show.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The next match on the dark match of good four, four matches.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Jack Perry defeating Mark Davis.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And the who really good match, I believe that Mark Davis is exceptional and for being his spot on the card.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's out taking his coverage at every opportunity that he absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And as for Jack Perry, I find it absolutely hilarious.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I mentioned this earlier in the discord.

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[SPEAKER_02]: AEW, who spent the last six years trying to find every way to get Jack Perry over, repackage him, turn him dark, put him with the O.E.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Do this, do that give him a bus, give him a dinosaur.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know what worked, Kevin Ely?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Giving him as indie gimmick that he started with in AEW in the first.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the song.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Everything, the whole package.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I am a jungle boy, and I wrestle like I'm from the jungle.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You had so many people in AEW convinced that this gimmick would not work.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Then he had to outgrow it, that he had to do all of these things.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And you know what?

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[SPEAKER_02]: That just shows you sometimes all of these up for the wrong.

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[SPEAKER_02]: All you had to do was be his gimmick, basically be himself and he was going to be more popular than any other attempt to try to authenticate some fake authenticity.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: As much as, you know, I want to, I, yeah, I wish the best for him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I, I think, I think he's on the cards.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's exactly where he should be.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it really.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's making a ton of money.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's got baby faith reaction all up and down wherever he goes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You've got a great song to win some matches.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Hello, some matches.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's a great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's Orange Cassidy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and in terms of that, like it's it's somebody who you can if you need to bump him up a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: just to, you know, put a popular person against a heel to get beat, then he can be that guy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, the national title, I still don't quite get the vision for that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he doesn't seem to guy to be the touring indie champion.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, whatever, if it gives him something to fight over on the pre show, it's fine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, I agree.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Mark Davis is just

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[SPEAKER_00]: always a pleasure to see he's just really delivering and as that top the top of the B squad.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I am so thankful that every time there's been a setback for him with tag team partner, you know, put him in the trio so they put him here, put him there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's not iced and there are a lot of people that when their partners go on, they kind of just go away.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, Tony God knows what he has in this guy and yeah, obviously making sure that there's opportunities and when that guy gets an opportunity, he delivers it to just a really good if you're our match.

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[SPEAKER_02]: If you haven't been able to watch a card that's going free checking out, it looks a good one.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And for the last match on the card, we had the Divine Dominion of Lena Cross and Megan Bane in an AEW World Tag Team Title Match, and they defeated Hayen and Maya World in 10 minutes to 35 seconds.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's about to fine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Way too long.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Way too long.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think that there was anything remarkable about it other than I was about five minutes in, and I just started thinking about

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[SPEAKER_02]: the cautionary tale of Tegan North and Turner, and how for years to come, roughly the schools and promotions will talk about what happened and how when your opportunity comes, you don't squander it, and the example that hired in my world, set in when they got their

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[SPEAKER_02]: This will starkly clear to me what I was watching this match because it could have been any two people in this

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but it was them and they they earned the spot by working hard and grinding at it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, we actually have some news out of the Scram and I was going to try and check in the news there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And now it's on the dynasty media scrum.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We have Claudio Castignoi versus Kevin night for the AEW TNT title on Dynamite in addition to Darby Allen versus MCF, which officially announced in the Scram.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, so

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sorry, Kevin.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm getting the distinct impression that AEW wants to make an mission statement about their programming, going in a recommended weekend.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hmm.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What would that swim with that statement be?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, I've heard that Sean Ross, that believe that Darby Allen could potentially win that title and they could do that and just flip the title on him, flip it back on to mjf at double or nothing and yeah, when we can Andrew, Andrew Zarian strongly hinted in that direction as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, go, which is fairly reliable.

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[SPEAKER_02]: If we want to win the title at some point, he's got a challenger in John Mockley, who he's never beaten before at this point.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So there are pathways here or there that are very, very interesting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But we could, yeah, I mean, I, I've been very anti Darby for the last year, so ever since he came down from the mountain,

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[SPEAKER_00]: I have been uncomfortable watching his matches and I just have found him not entertaining.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We can probably save this for the actual Darby match, but the idea of him...

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[SPEAKER_00]: getting a a Mick Foley run with the title as a as a short term attention get her went to me that that's one step forward Tuesday's back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: on the on the bill doll in to me if you're going to build all in as is as your top match in your crowning of your next guy you got to keep on this path like that if they had had uh you know uh john moxley lose to orange cacity in uh november of you know

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[SPEAKER_00]: 2024 like it it just wouldn't have it would have hurt that run.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, so I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't get it, but I just hope they're not clouded because the you know, it feels like they're not being as responsive or as, you know, what's the, what's the, what's the word the Challenger brand?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The Challenger brand thing or reactive.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do things to get attention.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They just had a great show like why why yeah, I don't know

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, I think that AEW has done their best work in the last four or five books because they haven't focused on what anyone else is doing and they're just sticking to making a good show.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's always been good advice.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I do think that if they are going to try and poke the barrel a little bit, this is the week to poke the barrel.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, you guys have decided to mess with other people's shows, other people's talent, won't let our wrestler work with other people.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We'll just show you why we're the best wrestlers in the world.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, just that kind of like, all right, well, you know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I know MJF probably very, very enthusiastic about trying to do a program that will steal the thunder from WWE right now, given that they messed with his, uh, nicknames math, mnick, nymeth, math, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,

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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, so that is, it's just, they're both sides to it, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: You just, you don't know what they want to do and hey, even the conversation about that gets more people to tune in on what they see what they're going to do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's true.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, like you just, how many people went like that?

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[SPEAKER_00]: How many people went into tonight?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely convinced that Kenny Omega was going to win the title.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, like a pretty fair amount and a pretty fair amount convinced themselves that that it was not just the right thing to do on the night, but the right thing to do for building to be a show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm not saying those people would have been wrong, but it showed me the

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to go against the people who who in the past have been proven to be very right, but I would not be surprised if Derby loses again to a side-head luck take over.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't even think Derby should have won the match tonight.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think Andrade is much hotter right now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And he is going to think that he would have that column numerous scenarios like no one's going to believe he went to the title until he went to the title.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, like, it's always going to, you can't win the title is Darby out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's like, come to me, I'm going to win the title is Calvin Newman.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So you're just kind of like, until the company decides, like, you know what, he's a fucking win the title, I'm free.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And, uh, Korean says Darby is a W's Mick Foley in 1999.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And there's an aspect of that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And the other aspect that I kind of hit there and I get a little, like, weird about if then it feels like, uh,

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[SPEAKER_02]: And if turn he deserves it a reward, you know, on a three day build though.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like the Darby thing feels Don't come hot shot on earth.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I've never really been there with him either, but I know that there are a lot of people that have been.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't necessarily want to Excuse me, reward.

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[SPEAKER_02]: the way that Derby wrestles his match as though as the pathway for success in AEW, because I think it's fraught with peril and you can't have people follow what Derby does, because I don't know how much longer Derby is going to be doing this with the way that he wrestles his matches.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It'll be an interesting four days for that one.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to get to a couple of these other comments, but we got an hour to get through the rest of these matches.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And damn it, we're going to do it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So let's go.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Started open the show with the buck match Kevin.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was to me a low key dream match Okada to catch your work cooperating early.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okada counter the buck to the heels got the heat Caliph caught at Matt's face and placed peril.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Matt managed to throw both guys into the ring and gave Takeshita cutter.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okada stopped the hot tug and Matt finally got it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Nick proceeded to run wild on both people.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There was this really great panoramic shot at this point, which really wanted to compliment the product production.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They poorly planned this one, but from the ring, they showed both of the buck putting on the sharp shooters to Keshan O'Kata, and it was just for that angle, or really just showed how big the ring was, and a little bit away from the standard what they normally do.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, to, uh, to, to Kekhata is what I tried to call it in the, it really doesn't work.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They begin to turn on each other, uh, but then they begin to be on Matt for getting in the way of them turning on each other.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Takeshi Dehit Okada with the power drive knee, Okada hits Takeshi with the rainmaker, the Meltzer driver is almost blocked by Takeshi when the buck has Okada in it, but he back off, he looked them hit it and then the buck to get the win on Okada.

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[SPEAKER_02]: One of the only pins on Okada that you will see.

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[SPEAKER_02]: most ever.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't remember the last time O'Connor got a pin.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Somebody was gonna have to eat it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The O'Connor to catch the feud is simmering the butts are back in the tag team title contention and Steven flat out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This is my favorite match on the show and I think the best match on the show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would say it was the best match on the show to the point that as I was watching it, it was like, like chill out guys, this is the first match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I can follow that everybody.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was I was bearing down because I was like if they're kicking off with this, like I'm going to be exhausted at the end of the show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was pleased that they measured themselves better.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I really liked it as a story match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I liked it as just a fun party match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That he's just picked up so much from the box of what the bucks do well coordinated spots Just funny gags, but that's still or like, you know, the heel getting has come up with and sort of things like that And dynamic between Ocata and Takeshita has just been so much fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I loved it when they were just slapping each other across the face to fire them solves up out of the sharpshooters

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I felt like a week ago, they were really loose.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They had really lost the window, you know, of like the interest in that had peaked too much.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if this got fast tracked because of the Kyle injury.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I assumed it did because it was supposed to be Kyle Fletcher.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And Ocada.

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[SPEAKER_00]: something that maybe this way is what have happened with to catch the train on a Kyle or or caught a interfering or something, you know, who knows?

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I'm glad they finally pulled the trigger on it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I like that they lost because him winning the match, if they won the match to catch what I got in the title match, and to me that would have been too easy to give it to them, because now what they did is they've forced the issue, but to catch the non-mac they get the match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So now he used to fight to get that match, so it adds a little wrinkle to the story that I think is going to make it fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm still all in on the to cut the to catch the is the man train

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm just here for him to get the fans behind him again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's been a heal.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's been a heal in AEW for a good long time now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What, like, four years now?

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[SPEAKER_02]: since he turned on Kenny Omega in 2023 or something like that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So he's starting to turn baby face in Newt's fan.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's now aligned himself with Shota Umano and they're going to do a tag team match against a couple of the house torture.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So he's starting to make friends over there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I thought it would be LP, but I'm going to show that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you know, it's not the Denver Broncos, but they're okay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: uh so yeah it this is there's a lot of meat on the bone for all this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm glad that we all had this match and you could tell that O'Connor liked the book because he worked just to ask all of them.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Next match up we had Jericho and Ricochet.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This was kind of a WWE match to me.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was a very slow, deliberate smoke and mirrors.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's tell a big old story in this match.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The interference had everything to do with the guys on the outside.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Jericho had some good co-breakers.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Ricochet hit a lion tamer for the win to get the heat.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, I thought the finish was interesting.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I thought Jericho, L.A. Baby Faith, who's a resounding success.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think he can get away with a lot at this phase.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's off to him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't think he could do it anymore.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And hats off to Ricochet for being the right kind of heel that was bumping could be kinetic and could really help Jericho earn that baby face energy that the fans wanted him to succeed.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like they did not want Jericho to fail.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And any inch that they could give them, they were going to pull that inch into a foot.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so even if like a code breaker,

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, or the drop kick with two feet off the ground, dating can't you going, they were going to will him in his success.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And that was kind of the vibe of a lot of matches on on the show.

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[SPEAKER_02]: What were your thoughts?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think Jericho has done two things with this run.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Number one, he watched a lot of Tana Hashi last year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Of like how to know

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[SPEAKER_00]: what you need to do to not have to do the things you can't do anymore, and also I want to see more, but I'm pretty sure he is actively trolling WWE or just doing a gimmick where he's making fun of what he would have done in WWE if he had signed there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the tip off to me for it that this

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[SPEAKER_00]: on Wednesday that was sort of in a style to play.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're like, okay, so you're going to start like bumping out the greatest hits.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But when he dropped the Chris from his name, and now he is just Jericho, Jericho, that I was like, okay, now he's, you know, I imagine to see if he I call Jericho now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he's going to be more, yeah, he's going to be more, uh, more sports entertainment than he was in the appreciation society.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think I would not be surprised to hear him talking about chasing a

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[SPEAKER_00]: sending someone to the medical facility like kind of making fun of a WWE that actually doesn't hasn't really been that way since he was there last or at least maybe the last three years but I think it will really

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, I, you know, he always comes back with a vision of what he's wanting to do and it, it seems like he's just going to do like, you know, really.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but it, but it's not, but I feel like there's a, there's a satire in it that I think he's going for, but.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, let's see how he can get a picture of time here like he was positioned to lose and now he's going to need some friends to take on the demand and it's all contingent on what kind of friends he gets and what what.

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[SPEAKER_02]: What hit relationship and the object are going to be is he going to get some friends and then he's going to be Jericho and if two little buddies or is it going to be like equal standing kind of guys and you know like strong guys on the card that are helping him out this is going to be an interesting aspect on it and this is actually a point that I failed to mention up to this point the hidden.

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[SPEAKER_02]: weapon for this paper view was the crowd.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This crowd was fantastic.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And they would not let anything fail.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They were, they were vocal, they were energetic.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Our brother Pete Preet was there at the show.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And he said that it was loud in the building and we were watching on home.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was also very, very exceptionally loud.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So good job, I believe Vancouver.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Good job for showing out for AEW and, you know, really making sure that those matches got over because the crowd was tremendous tonight.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought yes, I agree.

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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, we got a couple of comments here.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Korea, because it's the first paper we match that I was wrong with most of the matches and it was not a predictable AEW paper view, brother B.K.L.

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[SPEAKER_02]: sport entertainment show.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Don't forget, fellas, we know exactly who's M.J.F.

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[SPEAKER_02]: and tell they know exactly who's M.J.F.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Look, I'm not sure for our Darby Allen.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So who's next?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think we're probably getting some kind of four-way at double or nothing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They don't typically do AEW-111 matches.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You can look it up in the past.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They're with an orange cacity versus Pock versus Kenny Omega 1 year.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They're with a four-way pillar.

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[SPEAKER_00]: A four-color chef.

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[SPEAKER_02]: One year they didn't do one at all, and Mod Clues in the NRK in the arena match, because they don't always do want to double or nothing, but if it's not like a four-way match, I'm really leaning towards running back at Darby Allen and MJF match, if there's some type of disputed finish or something like that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then, uh, we've got other comment.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Seriously, this match is quite even, but definitely odd.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Here's my quote, Chris Jericho, your match is like 67.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And second, please don't put Chris Jericho in the AEW world title, or I will crash out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think he's going to be really in that position.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He might get like one world title shot, but I don't think it's going to be the big program.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't, I don't think he's at that level.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think he's, I think everyone of pretty aware that this is going to be a retirement tour, even if it's not a retirement tour.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The retirement is five years.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: When we were talking about it at Dave House, it was like tribute, misplayed all of this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You saw that crowd with Jericho.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He loved.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They wanted him to

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[SPEAKER_02]: Don't not pay him as much as he think he was valued.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then AEW came in and give him a faculty once.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And you know what, Chris Jericho is gonna say, I'm home wherever he was gonna sign that contract.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You want to WWE, who's gonna say I'm home?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's gonna say I'm home.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And you know what?

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[SPEAKER_02]: They were both gonna cheer either way.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So 100% you know what I'm like?

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[SPEAKER_02]: You could read the room triple H. I think I think you misplaced.

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[SPEAKER_02]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: What is the next match we hear?

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[SPEAKER_02]: A draw day at Jarby speaking of Jarby.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So this is,

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[SPEAKER_02]: In fact, with the match, you think it would be for the first five minutes, we got to a point where I had drawn a den with Darby up the steps and just draped him on top of the turn buckle and then slapped him across the face.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Then he went down and did his whole stick with one of the

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[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, by Darby off of the top rope onto the, uh, ring four followed by probably the bumps and and draw a least wanted to do on this entire card, which was going up the steps and taking a draw kick from Darby and which and draw a took one single small bump that still looked inscrouchating, winning on it back in his ass on two steps.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We got, uh, got back to the ring and trying to hit the three of me go for the final and do a turnbuckle.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Darby go for the shoulder command, draw an A on the top rope to a crucifix ball into a cross fade ball.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Follow it by a sprint suicide dive to the ring side into and draw an A and then a drop kick into and draw an A who was in a chair, a ring side.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He hits it and then draw to go crashing head first into the

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[SPEAKER_02]: Then within a minute and draw day and it's up and he can delay vertical coup clubs from the apron on the other side of the ring onto the floor on Darby Allen.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So that's exactly the kind of match that we were having on this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, the crowd chant for a draw did it take his pants off and he does don't forget this dude is supposed to be a heel, but he is in fact a baby fatty to the crowd.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, and he hits his double, double, double, double summer flat summer salt splash on to Derby to a then cheers Derby then hits a call coffee drop and draw to get his hand up from to stop alter evading the three

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[SPEAKER_02]: Darby then hinted to the way Glock pin called the last supper.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Get the pin win and then draw any shakes his hand and raises Darby's hand.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The dude is a baby face and the baby face versus a baby face match.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And as much as there are people that love Darby and this is a day one kind of guy and it's his opportunity.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And draw an extra one this match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think if you were to run and draw a and mjs at double or nothing, I'd buy that for a dollar, like that, but I think that's down the line.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But, um, I, one of my notes are just wrote on draw day is a joy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He has just been so fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you want the run of his life?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you want to talk about misfire, or, you know, mishandling something.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hashtag Paul fumbled on, on Drought A, that, I mean, the guy was great when he died in the end.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He had to make a trip for a friend of where exactly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, when Collision first started and he was the one of the original Collision Cowboys and he was just killing it, killed it in the C2 then left To go to WWE, he did almost nothing there and then comes back and picks up even higher than he was before Like this guy is one of the best there is going right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's so fun I thought for sure he was when he picked him up and held him and he just had him solid in that suplex

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[SPEAKER_00]: uh you know and you could tell he could hold in there pretty much as long as you wanted.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought he was going to go for the selfie with uh Darby in the uh street flex position, which would have been incredible, but he didn't do that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This was actually, so I've been really down on Darby, but this is mostly the Darby that I like.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I like Darby.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I like Darby contained within the world's traditional, traditional wrestling match when you're not doing the garbage stuff and the weapons and all that because then number one he does less, even though he's still treading, I hope the Smoa Joe sent him an angry text when he saw him do that dropkick off down the steps because Joe probably is still feeling the one he tried in TNA.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Darby, when he is like pushing the limits of what's happening in a regular match, doing dives that are just a little more forceful, taking bumps that are a little more heavy, that's when he's really great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's when you're getting out there with the weapons and the glass and the fish tanks and all that stuff that I'm just like, dude, I'm not here to watch your finish.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I agree with you completely.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I felt like Darby being restrained and trying to actual wrestle a match versus and draw at Aversus, you know, trying to do a coffin match with it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Get hit and the car crash at the beginning of it or, you know, spray paint.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There were no skateboards.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There were no like some tap.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There were, there were no trash cans.

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[SPEAKER_02]: it was a wrestling match and this is what I need out of Darby and I think Darby needs out of Darby and I'm not here to advocate.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't I don't care that much about Darby's career other than I just want him to be able to live the rest of his day.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, really healthy day in the family life.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Whatever else you decide to do, buddy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I like

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[SPEAKER_02]: whatever I don't care.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I just yeah, like I don't want to be participant in you will fully destroy your life and me just watching for my own music.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's just kind of where I'm not that crap.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm passing on.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm not on that one.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Better than I thought it was going to be.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Would be the way I would end out and the reveal in that one three for three at that point on the main show of great matches.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think the Jericho Rikshay was great, but it wasn't bad.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe met expectations.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Met or exceeded expectations, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This is a performance review for us.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: FTR versus COVID-19.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Coach gets the huge reaction.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He always walked from Vancouver and Caged did too.

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[SPEAKER_02]: FTR came out to huge heat and what I would call a fresh fit with sto-coated cage watch.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Fans start seeing the National Anthem during the beginning.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We're also getting bald chance as FTR is getting the heat on Copeland.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Christian, uh, again, and it's on both on the road and it doesn't splash off the top rope to the ring side.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's basically healing his baby face just doing all his heel moved for baby face reaction.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Sure, I guess, whatever.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He had to kill good for two and cash going for Christian's arm and they began to work on it after the filming angle from one day on dynamite.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Kobe gets the tag and goes the house of fire ending with an impeller on death.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There's a power and glory tried to be hit on death, but uh, Christian, when he tried to hit death, death got if knees up and when uh, Kobe was on the ground, cash tried to hit one on him.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Kobe got his knees up.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, cash then hit Kobe with a belt square on his forehead,

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[SPEAKER_02]: couple of bleeding for roachically for the remainder of the match and to their credit because probably the worst blood probably unintentional and it really wanted to compliment the company and the show for itself control with that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They are very indulgent with the blood and almost

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[SPEAKER_02]: It wasn't like this this time, but as you keep doing it, when they do do blood, it will feel more concrete.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I wanted to take a pause on that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I want to mention that after after you got hit with the belt, that went for the pin.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Try to get a kick out, Kobe Christian went for a shatter machine, the stoke winner fears.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Copeland hit cadets all a spear on dad, cash it to pile driver on Copeland, Christian get to chair the cash counter, and Christian goes over the ringbell area, superkid over and over on Copeland, Copeland tries to stand up for a while to stand against FTR alone, but he can't FTR get the win, and much to my surprise and others FTR are the champion to after beating both the young

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's a quenchable monk to retain the title going into the cover time.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was surprised, and I thought this match was better than the FTR match with the bug black bug.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hmm, I didn't think about that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought they were different times.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I thought they were different times.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I thought they were more like,

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[SPEAKER_02]: the FTR briskos, then it did like, yes, the better team.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, box and FTR.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I agree.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think, and, and the fact that they didn't overdo,

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[SPEAKER_00]: both the bucks and FTR are big on highly coordinated spots, especially doubling spots where the two pairs are doing the same thing in the ring, whether it's a dive or a double sharpshooter or something like that, they fall on each other, some kind of and Cajun Copa really aren't that team, and I think it was the better for it, because it just felt more like a, it felt like a grudge match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't, it wasn't two teams

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was two teams that had each other.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was mildly surprised by the finished.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought it was good how they set it up with isolating him and setting up cage where cage wasn't there for to help him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hopefully, they'll stay together as a team.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hopefully, they'll be in and out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe disappear for a little bit and come back later.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What I'm worried about is that this is all building to them recreating the TLC match, that was the required of finding match early on with FTR playing the role of the Dudley's and the Bucks playing role of the Hardies and doing that at Wembley, because God bless Copen Christian, I don't need to see them in a TLC match, and I hope that they don't want to do that, but it seems to be naturally building to that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: uh somehow somewhere um that they will that they will try to kind of glam a little history uh and recreate it with the the bucks and FTR being the the new generation goats uh I understand where you're coming from I actually had it some more thought but it's slightly adjacent okay

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[SPEAKER_02]: Do you expect out in the mid 2000s?

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[SPEAKER_00]: The SmackDown 6.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The SmackDown 6.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think that if you were to go into all in at Wembley in August with the idea of a three-way tag team match with the Bucks Coping Cliffs Coping Christian and FTR that all the way through that build, you could have mixed and matched single matches with all of the guys.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Nick Chatton versus Christian Matt Chatton versus Cash Wheeler.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's versus Copeland.

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[SPEAKER_02]: All of these got back and forth throughout the next four or five months.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You just have, if you guys do a single batches, all just buying for a position for these tag team titles.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think that could be one of my favorite things that AEW can possibly do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it would be great.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That is my that is my proposal is the Smackdown Sits Approach to the Sits guys for the next four or five books.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would love it down with it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I call I want call one.

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[SPEAKER_02]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So that's match.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We had with the TNT title match.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm not gonna lie to you Steven or Kevin.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I do even think I've faiths to even all the

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[SPEAKER_02]: And if everyone knows, I do the speaking of strong style podcast where we talk about New Japan pro wrestling every Thursday, so I 30 PM answered and I will address my podcast partner esteemed Broadway and I will say great point Steven and in total pilot and so Kevin.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, just James, you're, you're, you're, you're Steven, you're Steven, and I'll be with you.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Great.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But as I was getting to my notes, start to dwindle at this point because I feel like the closer to the end of the card with the easier of going to remember these things.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I made a, I made a critical mistake.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't remember if much about this is I thought I got you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I got you.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Awesome.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, I recently just got the list of guys for the TNT title match, which is Trump and Rush First Big Dog fight.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Bandit on that, then clone, then Pock, Anthony Bowen, who speed balls in there too.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Bowen there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you.

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[SPEAKER_02]: be both in there as well.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then he bone to, oh my god, it's just a guy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, or in more every day, it got some, I wish him all the best.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But he can't on a skate, just a guy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The best thing you do is put tassels on a skier and try and be teetots in.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Because that's not where he's at right now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I just, like, there's nothing he can do.

55:18.196 --> 55:23.267
[SPEAKER_02]: They buried his, they finished his gimmick with Matt Caster on an indie show like that.

55:23.287 --> 55:26.073
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, everything that they give it up.

55:26.093 --> 55:31.665
[SPEAKER_02]: They're, they're, they're, they're giving him a participation of war on what it can be in the match.

55:31.765 --> 55:32.346
[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to be gone.

55:33.349 --> 55:34.511
[SPEAKER_02]: The angle Garcia is all cool.

55:34.932 --> 55:38.179
[SPEAKER_02]: Then Kevin night, then we were you to end up.

55:38.497 --> 55:51.747
[SPEAKER_02]: All I have is Kevin night wind in a surprise and I'm here for this, you know, why I didn't want any of the other guys that were already fighting for this title to win it because then it seems ordinary.

55:52.317 --> 56:07.195
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, make it exciting, make it fun, put it on a guy that in four months, when Kyle Fletcher comes back, you've got a Kevin Knight versus Kyle Fletcher match for that title and Wembley and it will rule.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, going into the match, I expected, I just thought, oh, they're going to put it on Chopper.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's easy button.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Just put it back on him, kind of reset it back a couple of months.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and have them hold it other than the fact that he's a heal and newly minted heal.

56:24.935 --> 56:34.190
[SPEAKER_00]: It seemed like it was just like, hey, it's not just planned be to wait for a call to come back, but it's just going to be a different direction and we'll do a call when he comes back.

56:35.151 --> 56:42.203
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know how close you were paying attention to the discord, but the every time someone would come in,

56:42.655 --> 56:45.140
[SPEAKER_00]: people would be like, oh, I hope they win.

56:45.822 --> 56:47.485
[SPEAKER_00]: And then it would just be something that we can do.

56:48.227 --> 56:51.654
[SPEAKER_00]: Bandita would come in and be like, oh, Bandita would be great if Bandita won.

56:51.694 --> 56:55.442
[SPEAKER_00]: And then speedball come in and people would be, oh, you know, be great if speedball won.

56:57.086 --> 57:01.575
[SPEAKER_00]: Even clone when well clone came in, people were like, you know, clones have been really greatly.

57:02.078 --> 57:04.125
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I could make an argument for that guy winning.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, what?

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, if I got it right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Pock, you know, and then Garcia came and just ruined everything.

57:13.553 --> 57:33.823
[SPEAKER_00]: really killed the vibe didn't he did kill the vibe but that's what that's when we were like okay it's like you go to Garcia Bowen's then I did I didn't appreciate that we were you to basically look like a young line from New York fans they did didn't yeah I didn't put any given dude like you didn't have to out the middle of the ring and life is restarting

57:33.803 --> 57:48.555
[SPEAKER_00]: I had myself pretty well convinced that Speedball was going to win and should win, because I felt like the way they've been building him up over the last several months, and even since the continental classic, he's been that guy who knocks on the door of being the giant killer.

57:48.974 --> 57:55.869
[SPEAKER_00]: And has gotten some really good wins, some really great featured matches.

57:55.929 --> 58:07.253
[SPEAKER_00]: He's shown that he can be featured in a match on Dynamite and, you know, in a major match on Dynamite and deliver at least in terms of quality and excitement.

58:07.385 --> 58:22.081
[SPEAKER_00]: And I thought, Oh, that would actually be a kind of an inspired choice for now because he's he's not someone that you really tagged is like as a singles title holder, but he could have it'd be really interesting to see him on the on the defending side instead of the upstart side.

58:22.942 --> 58:31.131
[SPEAKER_00]: So I had pretty much gotten myself completely in that space and then Kevin night hits that incredible UFO on.

58:31.111 --> 58:36.618
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, what was he was in like the dragon, the whatever the lying tamer type hold.

58:36.658 --> 58:50.976
[SPEAKER_02]: That girl's I think, uh, Garcia had Kevin's people had Garcia something and Kevin, I hit the UFO and crushed his partner and was able to recover and then took the pin.

58:51.074 --> 58:51.955
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'd got the pin.

58:53.017 --> 58:55.341
[SPEAKER_00]: So it set up the dynamic I wanted to see.

58:55.421 --> 58:57.004
[SPEAKER_00]: It was just the opposite of what I expected.

58:57.064 --> 59:06.519
[SPEAKER_00]: Because what expected was speedball to win, maybe Kevin gets jealous of that and takes it from him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you end up where you are now anyway, but just a couple of months.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I love the fact, I could, I had the,

59:13.771 --> 59:18.539
[SPEAKER_00]: The scrum on just in a corner on mute over here while they do and Kevin came out.

59:18.619 --> 59:19.480
[SPEAKER_00]: He was all cleaned up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sunglasses like the dudes ready for his glow up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm really excited to see what they do.

59:26.491 --> 59:29.075
[SPEAKER_02]: I wrote a thing to run back to the lady.

59:29.095 --> 59:32.982
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, you're so sad for her.

59:33.342 --> 59:35.305
[SPEAKER_02]: Like the way the touch of reading.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Bucket night.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

59:39.192 --> 59:40.774
[SPEAKER_00]: Cool Kyle just wasn't doing it.

59:41.108 --> 59:42.310
[SPEAKER_02]: Put the shit with this show.

59:42.330 --> 59:43.672
[SPEAKER_02]: At least we haven't had a victory.

59:46.096 --> 59:58.497
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that they have a big plan for Kevin night and I think that Kevin night is probably going to be one of the guys in the main event for AEW in the next five years.

59:58.818 --> 01:00:05.108
[SPEAKER_02]: Like consistently, this guy is the real deal and I've been watching him in New Japan.

01:00:06.050 --> 01:00:15.543
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, he started doing to Tabukushita and as the time splitter or whatever they were, the jets at the time, etc.

01:00:16.004 --> 01:00:29.062
[SPEAKER_02]: Whatever they were, you've been there and I was looking at him and I would call him the perfect combination of trick William to Carmelo Hayes.

01:00:29.382 --> 01:00:29.643
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

01:00:29.963 --> 01:00:35.010
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes,

01:00:35.429 --> 01:00:50.041
[SPEAKER_02]: The vibe, the fit, the athleticism, the wrestling skill, the dude of winning the world title at some point, him and Kyle Fletcher in the next five years are going to be the main event scene of this company.

01:00:50.381 --> 01:00:53.488
[SPEAKER_02]: Or another company that decides to pay them a lot of money.

01:00:54.262 --> 01:01:10.247
[SPEAKER_02]: But like the two were undeniable and unstoppable and the fact that these two are probably going to be wrestling for that title in five months basically just tells me that they are locked in if this guy has a number one guy.

01:01:10.267 --> 01:01:17.719
[SPEAKER_02]: And if much as I love speedball and he is winning me over more and more and more, he does not have the upside the Kevin Night has.

01:01:18.620 --> 01:01:20.243
[SPEAKER_00]: No, I would completely agree with that.

01:01:20.283 --> 01:01:20.944
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:01:21.262 --> 01:01:22.383
[SPEAKER_00]: I completely agree with that.

01:01:22.924 --> 01:01:25.307
[SPEAKER_00]: You could tell that they saw something in speedball.

01:01:26.048 --> 01:01:27.509
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sorry in Kevin.

01:01:28.050 --> 01:01:29.312
[SPEAKER_00]: When he had best were of match.

01:01:30.793 --> 01:01:41.746
[SPEAKER_00]: And it was a clear victory by Swerve, but you could tell that Swerve was interested in tapping him on the shoulder and pointing him out to the crowd of like this is this guy's the next guy.

01:01:42.187 --> 01:01:48.214
[SPEAKER_02]: New Japan wanted him back for for dates for a lot of dates and he had a dual

01:01:48.295 --> 01:01:54.944
[SPEAKER_02]: But Tony didn't want to let him go because he was too important.

01:01:55.685 --> 01:01:56.906
[SPEAKER_02]: That's all you need to know.

01:01:58.729 --> 01:01:59.229
[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean?

01:01:59.790 --> 01:02:00.831
[SPEAKER_02]: Yep.

01:02:00.852 --> 01:02:02.714
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, there's a lot of guys.

01:02:03.455 --> 01:02:05.678
[SPEAKER_02]: There's a lot of guys that he's like, go, cool.

01:02:06.159 --> 01:02:08.782
[SPEAKER_02]: She's like, not this guy.

01:02:08.802 --> 01:02:08.902
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

01:02:08.922 --> 01:02:09.923
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

01:02:09.943 --> 01:02:10.264
[SPEAKER_02]: All right.

01:02:10.464 --> 01:02:14.910
[SPEAKER_02]: So Jimmy Hater and Tecla, I'm going to let you take the, take the lead on this one.

01:02:15.734 --> 01:02:33.810
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I didn't take a lot of notes on the specifics of the rundown, but, um, so Tecla, number one, I just had a fire entrance, probably the entrance of the night with the staging area and the sisters of sin, you know, mounted on the sides, uh,

01:02:34.685 --> 01:02:35.786
[SPEAKER_00]: waiting out for her.

01:02:35.846 --> 01:02:45.357
[SPEAKER_00]: She has just every week, um, just raises the game in terms of her persona, her presence of just demanding the camera's attention.

01:02:46.299 --> 01:02:54.288
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, and then, um, went back to backstage, they had a little skit with a pretty contrived little sprawling birds.

01:02:54.548 --> 01:02:56.130
[SPEAKER_00]: That's why I can pair them to the APA.

01:02:56.150 --> 01:03:03.038
[SPEAKER_00]: They seem to have like their little pop up set, like they have

01:03:03.018 --> 01:03:04.844
[SPEAKER_00]: where they drink beer and tea.

01:03:04.864 --> 01:03:08.557
[SPEAKER_00]: There was also a tea, a tea kettle, a teapot there.

01:03:08.938 --> 01:03:12.049
[SPEAKER_00]: So they're having both tea and beer.

01:03:12.805 --> 01:03:19.412
[SPEAKER_00]: Alex is like, you know, nursing her injuries with the ice pack and, you know, she's in her gear still.

01:03:19.472 --> 01:03:21.675
[SPEAKER_02]: She looks like her makeup is really fresh.

01:03:21.795 --> 01:03:22.455
[SPEAKER_02]: What's the right?

01:03:22.796 --> 01:03:23.056
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

01:03:23.156 --> 01:03:25.779
[SPEAKER_00]: So she's all like, oh, and she's like now it's your turn.

01:03:26.400 --> 01:03:30.865
[SPEAKER_00]: Jamie tries to take a beer down in one chug, but she had to like, take a swallow for her.

01:03:30.885 --> 01:03:33.167
[SPEAKER_00]: But she almost, she wasn't quite hanged in there.

01:03:33.187 --> 01:03:35.910
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't buy if she drank a beer before that match, I had to be apple juice.

01:03:35.890 --> 01:03:38.534
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that had to be able to just so throws it down.

01:03:38.554 --> 01:03:39.916
[SPEAKER_00]: I love the effort.

01:03:39.977 --> 01:03:41.920
[SPEAKER_00]: I like to, you know, look good on paper.

01:03:42.040 --> 01:03:42.461
[SPEAKER_00]: It was great.

01:03:42.481 --> 01:03:43.342
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the vibe was great.

01:03:44.324 --> 01:03:57.004
[SPEAKER_00]: I had a little bit of discussion in the discord about this that I was really hoping to see a little bit of the the great Jamie hate or who I rated in 2022 is my favorite star in a W that year.

01:03:56.984 --> 01:04:01.593
[SPEAKER_00]: And saw a little bit of her in that match.

01:04:01.954 --> 01:04:03.217
[SPEAKER_00]: Both the good and bad of it.

01:04:04.219 --> 01:04:05.862
[SPEAKER_00]: This was a hard hitting match.

01:04:06.203 --> 01:04:10.712
[SPEAKER_00]: They were both red and the face red all over their bodies.

01:04:10.772 --> 01:04:11.854
[SPEAKER_00]: They were hitting really hard.

01:04:11.894 --> 01:04:14.419
[SPEAKER_00]: They were working hard.

01:04:16.610 --> 01:04:27.327
[SPEAKER_00]: Tecla is just she is kind of like a Darby in that her offense for someone her size should not be believed as believable as it is.

01:04:28.529 --> 01:04:40.609
[SPEAKER_00]: And but because she can lead has such like forosity, it explodes in us what she does it really and they kind of played into her character that they talk about she's kind of like five feet of dynamite kind of thing.

01:04:42.310 --> 01:04:53.067
[SPEAKER_00]: And I had made the comment, the someone that I really wanted to see like the Jamie used to be kind of a Drew McIntyre character and now she's more of a shameless.

01:04:53.928 --> 01:04:55.911
[SPEAKER_00]: If that makes any sense.

01:04:56.532 --> 01:05:01.840
[SPEAKER_00]: And I saw a little bit of that drew version of her where it's just like just the badass spirit.

01:05:01.860 --> 01:05:03.743
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, the blowing burns.

01:05:03.984 --> 01:05:05.466
[SPEAKER_02]: If the brawling brooks.

01:05:05.446 --> 01:05:06.829
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it is.

01:05:06.849 --> 01:05:07.692
[SPEAKER_02]: I believe it.

01:05:07.712 --> 01:05:15.892
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's a ridge and it's called a year or to mean it's like it's it's to European brawler.

01:05:16.554 --> 01:05:16.734
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

01:05:17.917 --> 01:05:21.987
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's fine, but it's not hardly original.

01:05:22.861 --> 01:05:37.081
[SPEAKER_02]: No, but for a for a women's act, it's kind of fresh and I like it and it doesn't have to be doesn't have to be cliche as long as it works for the people that they give a work for and I think it works very well.

01:05:37.141 --> 01:05:40.566
[SPEAKER_00]: So technically it gets the win.

01:05:42.166 --> 01:06:07.465
[SPEAKER_00]: It was a really good win for Tecla and I'm really glad they did not spoil it by debuting anyone or even having Mercedes come back as much as I'm actually awaiting her return because I think Tecla really needs these moments where she wins and walks off the stage as the winner and you're just sort of keeping cementing her as the as the the woman of the division right now and uh

01:06:09.031 --> 01:06:10.654
[SPEAKER_00]: So there's some weird plan on my computer.

01:06:11.215 --> 01:06:23.875
[SPEAKER_00]: And Jamie, I think, came out a lot stronger too, because she elevated both of those of her team because she proved that she's about there again at that top level again.

01:06:23.935 --> 01:06:28.322
[SPEAKER_00]: Then what I'm literally looking forward to is the Brawling Birds.

01:06:28.302 --> 01:06:55.221
[SPEAKER_00]: building against the divine dominion because they both seem to have both of them on a really good upward trajectory where they're like just being really strong but keeping them away from each other enough that when they meet maybe in London that could be a really big match especially for that for where that where those tag titles are placed in the show is probably not very high

01:06:56.753 --> 01:07:19.892
[SPEAKER_02]: I think the thing that I want to focus on here is complimenting Tecla because right now, and I mentioned earlier in the show, there's no Mercedes, there's no Tony, where Baker's gone, where Statlett has been de-emphasized.

01:07:20.260 --> 01:07:49.525
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, it's like, you need somebody to step up and able to live all the oxygen in the room and build around as like a stabilizing force and the women's division and I think Tecla has been able to do that, you know, like this division can easily be in free fall right now and feel like the real stars aren't around, but Tecla is doing.

01:07:50.416 --> 01:07:57.127
[SPEAKER_02]: an incredible job in stabilizing the whole division in which you don't even realize these people are calling.

01:07:57.648 --> 01:08:07.243
[SPEAKER_02]: Like Tony not being around, like she's enough that Tony not being there is not something that your focus on, like, man, we're a Tony, you know what I mean?

01:08:07.263 --> 01:08:13.453
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, we're like, we're like, we're like, we're like, I haven't thought about any of these during these decades, like,

01:08:13.433 --> 01:08:17.720
[SPEAKER_02]: promos during her time, that's where you know that somebody's a star.

01:08:18.121 --> 01:08:29.439
[SPEAKER_02]: And you know, Tony and Brittany might feel a little bit threatened by her, who thinks or first, she don't miss, you know, she's given an opportunity and she's hidden it out of the park.

01:08:29.639 --> 01:08:30.801
[SPEAKER_02]: And so,

01:08:31.321 --> 01:08:44.068
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's interesting to me and I talked about a little bit in the disc in the chat on the discord of that Tecla right now feels like a vital star, like an essential star.

01:08:44.790 --> 01:08:48.638
[SPEAKER_00]: Like you said, she's the glue division right now.

01:08:48.618 --> 01:08:53.227
[SPEAKER_00]: and she feels like one of the breakout stars of the year in the across the whole business.

01:08:54.089 --> 01:09:05.832
[SPEAKER_00]: Meanwhile, Julia, who is absolutely the number, the alpha, when they were together in Stardom, feels completely irrelevant and an afterthought in WWE.

01:09:05.872 --> 01:09:09.900
[SPEAKER_00]: And some of that is because of how they translate.

01:09:09.880 --> 01:09:26.069
[SPEAKER_00]: some of that is completely and how they're looked at by the company and circumstances and who they're abroad in with and you know there's a vacuum at the at the time when Tecla had you know was able to step into whereas Julia is going into a crowded pool of people and also debuting around the same time as Stephanie Vicarre.

01:09:27.712 --> 01:09:32.901
[SPEAKER_02]: You also have to remember what one company considers a strength another company considers a weakness.

01:09:32.932 --> 01:09:50.552
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, but also tech what tech let does well translates really well to an North American audience, the intensity that craziness and the eloof coolness of Julia might you could say would have played better in AWS probably they probably would have presented her.

01:09:51.190 --> 01:10:10.701
[SPEAKER_00]: a little better or at least not a little bit as lost in the shuffle, but it's just, I don't know, it just really hit me tonight of how vital to the business techler feels right now, which I think when she was still in startup, I don't know if people would have given her the ceiling, like, would have set her ceiling this high.

01:10:10.900 --> 01:10:16.069
[SPEAKER_02]: she has made her stamp and I want to represent out it.

01:10:16.089 --> 01:10:18.294
[SPEAKER_02]: We've got three more matches here.

01:10:18.674 --> 01:10:23.784
[SPEAKER_02]: The next match with mock sweepers is all spray and I'm going to let you take the rain after I just add this one thing.

01:10:24.545 --> 01:10:25.146
[SPEAKER_02]: If

01:10:25.717 --> 01:10:35.972
[SPEAKER_02]: I were a wrestler and I were injured by a guy and the first match of a one-on-one I had, I would do a gag.

01:10:35.992 --> 01:10:43.303
[SPEAKER_02]: We will all spray it and I would hit him with two of my hidden blades, which is just a single

01:10:43.283 --> 01:10:46.930
[SPEAKER_02]: like frickin forearm, drop your face.

01:10:46.970 --> 01:10:54.125
[SPEAKER_02]: Not if 100% what you should do if you hit him with your arm is finisher immediately, you should hit him.

01:10:54.626 --> 01:10:57.392
[SPEAKER_02]: But your guard was the two hit and blame.

01:10:57.752 --> 01:10:58.634
[SPEAKER_02]: Chef, yes, thank you.

01:10:58.915 --> 01:11:00.077
[SPEAKER_00]: Good to see you.

01:11:00.057 --> 01:11:02.723
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, um, I don't have a lot of detailed notes on the moves.

01:11:02.763 --> 01:11:05.229
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll try to do this from um, but I agree.

01:11:05.430 --> 01:11:15.754
[SPEAKER_00]: I love that it's that it basically started the way that the Danielson Osprey match ended, which was basically a joust to people running at each other.

01:11:15.734 --> 01:11:39.891
[SPEAKER_00]: um, one of them definitely took him out, uh, the thing that I thought when that first, that first, like five seconds of the match, right, bell rings, will charges him, knocks him with the hidden blade, and then just stands there in the way that will does so well where he's just like that, you know, statue, blank expression, just like, are affirming.

01:11:39.951 --> 01:11:41.674
[SPEAKER_00]: And,

01:11:41.654 --> 01:11:48.445
[SPEAKER_00]: I was looking at him, his hair looks great, he's tan, he's looks in an incredible shape, and I'm like, this is the guy.

01:11:49.106 --> 01:12:09.197
[SPEAKER_00]: Like in that moment, he was the star of EW in that moment, and I thought, okay, I'm really, I really hope he's as ready as he's acting like he is, and that his injury is, you know, that he's, he's got it in him to be in the long haul a little bit.

01:12:09.177 --> 01:12:22.895
[SPEAKER_00]: I thought this was I would not have thought I'd need to stop over underestimating John Mox's ability to have chemistry with people because I wasn't sure if what he does and what will we're going to match up all that well.

01:12:24.116 --> 01:12:26.559
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought I wanted to go to the bathroom before this.

01:12:26.579 --> 01:12:28.722
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and I thought that, um,

01:12:30.592 --> 01:12:56.835
[SPEAKER_00]: moxley played it played the whole match really well they both played the hate really well but also like the sporting aspect where it was like truly like I'm gonna I really want to beat you not just like hurt you but I do want to hurt you but like so he's not gonna go for the pin he wants to dish out some punishment he's got this 20 minutes he almost treated it like a first like you know when they would do the like five minutes with the weasel after the match you know when you get to beat on the guy

01:12:57.355 --> 01:13:08.395
[SPEAKER_00]: and back in the old WWF days, but mocks is expressions throughout the whole thing where it's almost like mocks doesn't

01:13:08.982 --> 01:13:10.585
[SPEAKER_00]: have the same blood feud.

01:13:10.725 --> 01:13:15.334
[SPEAKER_00]: He's not trying to be part of this blood feud, you know what I mean?

01:13:15.454 --> 01:13:17.458
[SPEAKER_00]: Like he does a hate will as much as will hates him.

01:13:18.480 --> 01:13:32.205
[SPEAKER_00]: And he kind of played that in the match, where he's kind of playing defensive, kind of that, and then I really appreciated how when Osprey went on with Stardust Cell.

01:13:33.147 --> 01:13:38.154
[SPEAKER_00]: He was not doing what Kenny did when Kenny came back because Kenny came back and it'd be like anything.

01:13:38.194 --> 01:13:47.668
[SPEAKER_00]: I'd be grabbed my gut and I'd act like I'm, you know, just like completely over so I can't do anything because of how my stomach, you know, and all this, you know, like his gut's going to spill out at any moment.

01:13:48.590 --> 01:13:55.560
[SPEAKER_00]: And it hurt his matches, I think, you know, and maybe that's because he really was limited and he was trying to, you know,

01:13:56.097 --> 01:13:58.742
[SPEAKER_00]: really truly get back and do the overselling to do it.

01:13:58.762 --> 01:14:09.021
[SPEAKER_00]: But I think will did a really good job of playing a character of I am ready to come back, but I'm still on the edge.

01:14:10.003 --> 01:14:12.487
[SPEAKER_00]: And I, but I'm still also ready.

01:14:12.828 --> 01:14:14.511
[SPEAKER_00]: So like he's

01:14:14.491 --> 01:14:40.498
[SPEAKER_00]: Doing his moves, he's, it really took a lot before he started selling, and when he started selling, very specifically, which was the arm weakness, the things like that, and the other thing I want to shout out about this match, and I hope this continues all the way through the summer, is Brian Dales and Collin Will Osprey matches is magic, because of what Danielson brings in his own

01:14:41.373 --> 01:15:08.848
[SPEAKER_00]: the perspective that he brings and the storytelling he's able to do on behalf of will of shitty changes style maybe he doesn't need to do this man i noticed that i know what that feels like when i see him doing that with his hand and that kind of storytelling as he goes through and you know probably does he sink any bottom any further than this or not or you know is this the one loss that he has before he comes back or is he taking a little bit more time off

01:15:09.773 --> 01:15:17.102
[SPEAKER_00]: Danielson's really going to be crucial in helping tell the story of his comeback and the and the stakes of that comeback.

01:15:17.222 --> 01:15:20.466
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'd expected him to lose.

01:15:21.728 --> 01:15:22.909
[SPEAKER_00]: I liked how he lost.

01:15:23.530 --> 01:15:31.680
[SPEAKER_00]: I think if he's out for a little bit again, maybe a few weeks or something like that, because he's getting married, I think, please, why aren't they getting married?

01:15:31.700 --> 01:15:33.363
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, June.

01:15:33.443 --> 01:15:33.783
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

01:15:33.803 --> 01:15:34.584
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's not imminent.

01:15:34.844 --> 01:15:35.325
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

01:15:35.305 --> 01:15:40.936
[SPEAKER_02]: Now, back around, around Dominion, like, I'm not going to be a Dominion in a couple of days.

01:15:40.957 --> 01:15:47.610
[SPEAKER_00]: It'll be interesting because, um, that's not, they didn't do it in a way that like, resolve the feud.

01:15:48.215 --> 01:16:12.197
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, so it'll be interesting to see if they come back to it or if Will comes back and kind of moves on to the title scene or, you know, he says like, hey, I don't know, it's interesting to me to see how they book from here, but the setup of Will coming back hot and then not not getting there and saying, hey, this guy really is still at risk.

01:16:12.177 --> 01:16:19.814
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's strong and I think if it seems to me he's on point and he's ready to be the guy.

01:16:21.538 --> 01:16:27.351
[SPEAKER_02]: So I thought I thought it showed me that will.

01:16:28.546 --> 01:16:37.356
[SPEAKER_02]: has exhibited some self-control and caution, and he's not quite as reckless as he was before his designated death surgery.

01:16:38.338 --> 01:16:53.035
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought this showed that mockery has tremendous ideas when it comes to booking and match layout, and curious about what it would be like for him, booking a promotion one day.

01:16:53.943 --> 01:17:00.471
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, I do think it will be to stop being a loser right now and even start winning a lot more matches.

01:17:00.491 --> 01:17:08.481
[SPEAKER_02]: I think we'll probably get to the Owen and he suddenly goes on a winning streak after losing a ton.

01:17:08.601 --> 01:17:15.850
[SPEAKER_02]: But I do think that there is a great booking plan in here somewhere, which is, mm.

01:17:16.927 --> 01:17:22.514
[SPEAKER_02]: Will Osprey has never beaten John Mockley in a significant match.

01:17:23.094 --> 01:17:27.099
[SPEAKER_02]: He lost to Mockley in 2022, and the one needs to be right.

01:17:27.580 --> 01:17:35.669
[SPEAKER_02]: He lost to Finley when Mockley and him weren't a three-way, I guess David Finley, I believe, in 2004.

01:17:36.370 --> 01:17:37.431
[SPEAKER_02]: And we have this match.

01:17:38.292 --> 01:17:43.238
[SPEAKER_02]: I 100% believe that Will Osprey is winning

01:17:43.724 --> 01:17:55.409
[SPEAKER_02]: the AEW title at all in, and then you either have full gear, or you have world penned, where John Moxley comes knocking, because bitch you've never beaten me.

01:17:56.111 --> 01:17:56.692
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

01:17:56.712 --> 01:17:58.135
[SPEAKER_00]: They've already made a part of the story.

01:17:58.155 --> 01:18:03.707
[SPEAKER_00]: They made a part of the story last year that Will was telling Hangman, I don't know how to beat him, but you do.

01:18:04.109 --> 01:18:07.756
[SPEAKER_02]: So we're running this back at some point.

01:18:07.776 --> 01:18:10.181
[SPEAKER_02]: The title will be in a different situation.

01:18:10.261 --> 01:18:14.489
[SPEAKER_02]: It did something very similar with MGMF and Hangman.

01:18:14.549 --> 01:18:18.818
[SPEAKER_02]: Where MGMF always had that second contract.

01:18:18.878 --> 01:18:19.599
[SPEAKER_02]: And they hung it over.

01:18:19.699 --> 01:18:23.186
[SPEAKER_02]: It's potentially like you'll get again in that match.

01:18:23.206 --> 01:18:24.649
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, Hangman, champion.

01:18:24.629 --> 01:18:28.052
[SPEAKER_02]: And then it ended up being like kind of a faint to the side.

01:18:28.172 --> 01:18:31.035
[SPEAKER_02]: You could not fall away, mojo's the champion.

01:18:31.395 --> 01:18:32.717
[SPEAKER_02]: It could all kind of there.

01:18:33.337 --> 01:18:41.385
[SPEAKER_02]: But it's not, it's not explicitly laid out, but you can kind of see the breadcrumbs there and know that we got a little bit of magic there.

01:18:42.806 --> 01:18:46.429
[SPEAKER_00]: So here's the thing that I've heard multiple people yourself.

01:18:46.489 --> 01:18:51.514
[SPEAKER_00]: You just mentioned it, but I've heard a lot of people talk about lately about who will need to stop losing.

01:18:52.658 --> 01:18:55.647
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, I don't think he's lost a match.

01:18:55.667 --> 01:18:58.416
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he's been out for six months, but I don't think he's lost a match.

01:19:03.070 --> 01:19:04.575
[SPEAKER_02]: He lost the Owen.

01:19:06.260 --> 01:19:10.023
[SPEAKER_02]: He lost the Owen, which was something that a lot of people were for extra.

01:19:10.264 --> 01:19:12.746
[SPEAKER_02]: They didn't know that he was going to be injured at the time.

01:19:12.806 --> 01:19:12.986
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

01:19:13.006 --> 01:19:13.406
[SPEAKER_02]: Go out.

01:19:13.907 --> 01:19:34.005
[SPEAKER_02]: So there is the sense of like the big moments in which you are counting on Will Osprey and you are going to write that moment with him has been dashed multiple times in a row to the point where, and I've been saying this about some of the guys in New Japan, they keep losing.

01:19:34.306 --> 01:19:38.432
[SPEAKER_02]: And by the time they win, it's going to feel like a fluke rather than the big one.

01:19:40.395 --> 01:19:41.096
[SPEAKER_00]: I see what you're saying.

01:19:41.477 --> 01:19:57.000
[SPEAKER_02]: And so you've got to create the context of this guy to actually a guy who wins and it's in the conversation, when the big one rather than, oh, this guy sucks, but he figured it shit out and in the last minute he managed to win.

01:19:57.741 --> 01:19:58.382
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

01:19:59.324 --> 01:20:01.647
[SPEAKER_02]: That's not your baby face.

01:20:02.065 --> 01:20:04.589
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like that's not your big baby face.

01:20:04.949 --> 01:20:05.750
[SPEAKER_00]: I get what you're saying.

01:20:05.931 --> 01:20:07.413
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not I'm not very.

01:20:07.513 --> 01:20:08.655
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not as concerned about that.

01:20:08.895 --> 01:20:18.329
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't think there's a huge gap between him and a in a show to As per example, are you yeah or yeah, I would like yeah there.

01:20:19.010 --> 01:20:25.559
[SPEAKER_02]: Like what he was at secure Genesis, you could tell that this guy was a star off throws a star to that crowd compared to all the other guys.

01:20:25.980 --> 01:20:27.482
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah with that said

01:20:28.576 --> 01:20:32.921
[SPEAKER_02]: there's always a point where you realize like you missed your peak.

01:20:35.043 --> 01:20:51.681
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and they risk that they they do risk that a couple of times they do and that's why everyone is all in on all in like and so you want you want the moment to be there like oh this guy is enough of a winner like oh I can get behind this guy going into the oven.

01:20:52.235 --> 01:20:55.780
[SPEAKER_02]: But we don't even have a scenario where it's like, oh, I could get behind this guy.

01:20:55.800 --> 01:21:01.708
[SPEAKER_02]: He needed the United Empire to really help him like get to a point of even getting the batch.

01:21:01.728 --> 01:21:05.653
[SPEAKER_02]: And so where do you go with him after this?

01:21:06.034 --> 01:21:07.877
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, like, yeah.

01:21:07.897 --> 01:21:09.539
[SPEAKER_00]: That said, I think this was best case.

01:21:09.559 --> 01:21:11.301
[SPEAKER_00]: Because you can't have him win in the Continental title.

01:21:11.321 --> 01:21:12.323
[SPEAKER_00]: He didn't need to win the Continental.

01:21:12.343 --> 01:21:13.164
[SPEAKER_00]: That's a side quest.

01:21:13.785 --> 01:21:16.108
[SPEAKER_02]: Nobody needed to be winning the Continental Classic.

01:21:16.188 --> 01:21:17.850
[SPEAKER_02]: There's no one that's never won the title.

01:21:17.890 --> 01:21:19.352
[SPEAKER_02]: The Continental Classic title.

01:21:19.432 --> 01:21:20.554
[SPEAKER_02]: That's Continental Classic.

01:21:23.572 --> 01:21:29.179
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, it could display title one day it'll happen, but it'll happen.

01:21:29.379 --> 01:21:32.743
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just a thing that they they take off.

01:21:32.763 --> 01:21:33.905
[SPEAKER_02]: Dangles Kevin.

01:21:37.849 --> 01:21:41.814
[SPEAKER_02]: All right, uh, next match, uh, this was ridiculous.

01:21:42.135 --> 01:21:43.877
[SPEAKER_02]: We had the conglomeration.

01:21:44.998 --> 01:21:47.301
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, so much happened.

01:21:47.939 --> 01:21:59.336
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, we had the thick foam opening where Roder Strong came out of a prop door with orange Cassidy sleeping on the couch just wanting five more minutes.

01:21:59.956 --> 01:22:07.908
[SPEAKER_00]: And then in complete with a live and applause and laughter studio audience that can can applause.

01:22:08.409 --> 01:22:17.642
[SPEAKER_02]: And then with the fan

01:22:18.213 --> 01:22:27.362
[SPEAKER_02]: no sense of drama coming out or time from store or timing anything anything lacking like a comedic moment.

01:22:27.382 --> 01:22:35.231
[SPEAKER_02]: I could tell that Jeff Hawkins was probably just weeping with his comedic chops about how they failed to capitalize on this.

01:22:35.811 --> 01:22:36.652
[SPEAKER_02]: He comes out.

01:22:36.672 --> 01:22:43.960
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, he's got a comment in there, but I'm I need to find it at some point unless you can find it, but yeah, I've got to hear it on a fight.

01:22:45.121 --> 01:22:46.262
[SPEAKER_02]: But uh

01:22:47.322 --> 01:23:07.305
[SPEAKER_02]: The whole punchline is the Kyle Riley calls it the conglomeration and then their whole music kids and they come out and they do their thing and they're in the ring and then the dogs and kids and David Finley walks out onto the stage and he for he used to take his shell aily and

01:23:07.285 --> 01:23:12.451
[SPEAKER_02]: That's really, it's been four to smithereed and then knock it on the ground.

01:23:13.292 --> 01:23:19.039
[SPEAKER_02]: And then court corners, the ever charismatic, ever sleazy court cars.

01:23:19.659 --> 01:23:31.613
[SPEAKER_02]: Proceed to make a tribute to our vice president of the United States and exhibit coitus with the trio title belt.

01:23:32.374 --> 01:23:33.816
[SPEAKER_02]: On the couch,

01:23:33.796 --> 01:24:02.233
[SPEAKER_02]: only as one familiar with couch and recourse could possibly recreate followed by game kid to you know somehow got karmic for this one for me to mind pissing all over the couch after a quark mind to tell about it we flew over the couch because these dogs they're uncivilized

01:24:02.602 --> 01:24:22.062
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01:24:22.852 --> 01:24:24.754
[SPEAKER_02]: Everyone kind of knew what was happening.

01:24:25.615 --> 01:24:46.138
[SPEAKER_02]: Everyone was kind of like more worried about Gabe Kid and then it became more a situation where we're wondering, once the conglomeration won the titles when Kyle Riley tapped out court corners was this meant to be the dispute of fish.

01:24:46.158 --> 01:24:49.602
[SPEAKER_02]: Brian Alvarez seemed to believe that this was always the plan.

01:24:50.527 --> 01:25:04.721
[SPEAKER_02]: It's unfortunate what happened to Gabe kid at throw several plans up in the air, including him not being able to, uh, challenge for the global title against you to suggest for a genesis.

01:25:05.782 --> 01:25:05.882
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

01:25:05.902 --> 01:25:08.725
[SPEAKER_02]: I heard rumors that he would be in the G1 this year.

01:25:08.765 --> 01:25:16.433
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not completely out of the question that that might happen at this point, but I'm going to pivot to something else here, Kevin.

01:25:17.797 --> 01:25:22.553
[SPEAKER_02]: The last time that we saw Kyle O'Reilly, meeting John Mockley.

01:25:22.874 --> 01:25:27.670
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, one on one match in December and then disappearing.

01:25:28.152 --> 01:25:29.376
[SPEAKER_00]: And we, yes.

01:25:29.457 --> 01:25:49.052
[SPEAKER_02]: professional incompetent that this is how he has booked, this is how he has portrayed, and this is how he comes off coming out of this victory, in which it was politely mentioned, but getting the submission off of court corners, and then winning,

01:25:49.032 --> 01:25:57.923
[SPEAKER_02]: the trio of title for AEW does not feel like the follow-up that have worthy of beating John Malkley in a match.

01:25:58.084 --> 01:26:04.892
[SPEAKER_02]: We just had another match where babyface star will offer it could not get that job done.

01:26:05.533 --> 01:26:06.555
[SPEAKER_02]: And it was a big deal.

01:26:06.835 --> 01:26:12.262
[SPEAKER_02]: And yet when Kyle Riley does, it's not treated like a big deal.

01:26:12.402 --> 01:26:16.187
[SPEAKER_02]: To me, he should have been the guy to win the TNT title.

01:26:16.522 --> 01:26:17.403
[SPEAKER_02]: He should have come back.

01:26:17.964 --> 01:26:23.032
[SPEAKER_02]: He should have won that TNT title and would have been a statement when after beating John Moxley.

01:26:23.352 --> 01:26:24.594
[SPEAKER_02]: Think you really have other plans.

01:26:24.794 --> 01:26:26.878
[SPEAKER_02]: I like the Kevin Knight pivot.

01:26:27.679 --> 01:26:29.101
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I think that could great pivot.

01:26:29.822 --> 01:26:41.179
[SPEAKER_02]: But my criticism is that I really don't feel like they have seriously followed up on Kyle Riley after such an important win over John Moxley.

01:26:41.935 --> 01:26:51.249
[SPEAKER_00]: I think what are where I would disagree with you is I think the mistake was giving him those two wins over John Moxie in the first place.

01:26:52.051 --> 01:26:54.414
[SPEAKER_02]: But they did it as well.

01:26:54.454 --> 01:26:56.458
[SPEAKER_02]: You have to make it mean something.

01:26:56.478 --> 01:26:59.042
[SPEAKER_00]: I know, but do you don't have to.

01:26:59.062 --> 01:27:01.946
[SPEAKER_00]: I, or they're not going to.

01:27:02.046 --> 01:27:08.396
[SPEAKER_02]: So it, it was a meaningless loss like you want a John Moxie lost to Matt.

01:27:08.416 --> 01:27:09.698
[SPEAKER_02]: How does that matter?

01:27:11.753 --> 01:27:13.556
[SPEAKER_00]: It, no, it, well, it does it.

01:27:13.616 --> 01:27:15.138
[SPEAKER_00]: It's second and ready all over again.

01:27:15.358 --> 01:27:28.778
[SPEAKER_00]: It's, it's, it's, to me, in the, in the story of John Moxley that was more about Moxley than it was about Kyle.

01:27:29.319 --> 01:27:31.382
[SPEAKER_00]: That was more about,

01:27:31.463 --> 01:27:42.534
[SPEAKER_00]: John Moxley on the downswing after getting beat for the title and falling apart before he got his mojo back in the continent.

01:27:42.554 --> 01:27:44.018
[SPEAKER_02]: So what's going to cow a riley victory?

01:27:44.319 --> 01:27:45.422
[SPEAKER_02]: John Moxley lost.

01:27:46.195 --> 01:27:46.516
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:27:47.137 --> 01:27:55.636
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, at the time, I mean, that in hindsight, that's how I see it is the story that was being told was more about Moxie than it was, elevating Kyle.

01:27:55.976 --> 01:28:00.045
[SPEAKER_02]: Now, at the time, I don't know how rightly does not matter, which is what the company's told.

01:28:00.106 --> 01:28:00.967
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think he should.

01:28:01.028 --> 01:28:02.431
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think he should.

01:28:02.451 --> 01:28:04.896
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, as a person,

01:28:04.876 --> 01:28:08.505
[SPEAKER_00]: wish him the best, like as a star I wanted to have a great career and all that kind of stuff.

01:28:09.147 --> 01:28:12.355
[SPEAKER_00]: As a character, as a, as a, where do you put him on the card?

01:28:12.856 --> 01:28:18.430
[SPEAKER_00]: Kyle or Riley's instincts are not that of a person who will ever be a top guy.

01:28:19.372 --> 01:28:22.275
[SPEAKER_00]: And in the ring, he can be a killer.

01:28:22.355 --> 01:28:23.556
[SPEAKER_00]: He can be awesome.

01:28:23.997 --> 01:28:27.180
[SPEAKER_00]: As a personality, he's taught time and time again.

01:28:27.220 --> 01:28:38.472
[SPEAKER_00]: He's instincts are so bad of like how to be a character that in his hometown, he connected to the guy huge pops tonight.

01:28:39.633 --> 01:28:41.034
[SPEAKER_00]: People were very happy for him.

01:28:41.955 --> 01:28:42.876
[SPEAKER_00]: Happy to see him back.

01:28:43.717 --> 01:28:47.161
[SPEAKER_00]: He got to play Erika Tarra on his belt and all that stuff and people pop for it.

01:28:47.181 --> 01:28:48.282
[SPEAKER_00]: That's all great.

01:28:48.262 --> 01:28:59.397
[SPEAKER_00]: But whatever plans that we heard about, I never heard what the plans were, but you know, I was always assured, like, you know, this story with Moxley, and I mean, the wind, that's going to be a big deal for him.

01:28:59.417 --> 01:29:12.314
[SPEAKER_00]: They really got plans for Calarile and then he, you know, his neck, I think his neck was hurting and he, you know, had some injury issues, so he'd detect him off and then, you know, whatever kept him away for a while did those plans.

01:29:12.414 --> 01:29:13.375
[SPEAKER_00]: To me,

01:29:13.793 --> 01:29:25.324
[SPEAKER_00]: It would be a bigger mistake to me to try to shoehorn into something that he is not, just so that you can justify having a beat John Moxley, you know, eight months ago.

01:29:26.005 --> 01:29:26.726
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.

01:29:26.746 --> 01:29:29.929
[SPEAKER_00]: So I think being part of a comedy act is fine.

01:29:29.949 --> 01:29:39.598
[SPEAKER_00]: I just think the the Kyle that you saw coming out and we can do the camera is more of the real Kyle or Riley, the performer than,

01:29:40.372 --> 01:29:42.898
[SPEAKER_00]: than the Kyle that beat.

01:29:43.178 --> 01:29:44.060
[SPEAKER_02]: Good, Foxley.

01:29:44.100 --> 01:29:44.782
[SPEAKER_02]: Kyle, Riley.

01:29:44.802 --> 01:29:45.944
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he's a goof.

01:29:46.906 --> 01:29:47.047
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

01:29:47.367 --> 01:29:52.218
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, so I want to say that Roddy will find it as bad or Cassidy will find what's as bad.

01:29:52.579 --> 01:29:55.605
[SPEAKER_02]: They're settled and comfortable in their characters and fine.

01:29:56.267 --> 01:29:59.173
[SPEAKER_02]: I do think that they have something with the shield or with

01:29:59.153 --> 01:30:02.761
[SPEAKER_02]: the dog, particularly their version of the shield.

01:30:03.262 --> 01:30:03.903
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

01:30:03.923 --> 01:30:07.190
[SPEAKER_02]: And there are, there is legs to this concept.

01:30:07.571 --> 01:30:13.303
[SPEAKER_02]: And when Gabe came back, I think there is a lot of promise with those, for you guys.

01:30:14.806 --> 01:30:15.828
[SPEAKER_00]: Yep, I agree.

01:30:16.850 --> 01:30:17.572
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm surprised.

01:30:17.592 --> 01:30:18.554
[SPEAKER_02]: Just a main event, right?

01:30:19.376 --> 01:30:19.997
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:30:20.450 --> 01:30:46.018
[SPEAKER_00]: You want to you want to walk it through whatever note you have for this one good I took very little notes I was paying I was I was I was a I was number one just kind of locked in on watching the match is a fan and then also trying to put out on my mind The rapid discussion that was coming across my computer and phone of people talking about Darry Allen winning the title before this matches even over so is trying not to be distracted.

01:30:45.998 --> 01:30:47.941
[SPEAKER_02]: But I will start off with it then.

01:30:48.982 --> 01:30:54.310
[SPEAKER_02]: We had can you make it coming out to an epic final fantasy entrance with the whole heritage entrance.

01:30:54.330 --> 01:30:54.871
[SPEAKER_00]: Great entrance.

01:30:55.492 --> 01:30:58.496
[SPEAKER_02]: The full Omega dressage.

01:30:58.516 --> 01:30:58.776
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.

01:30:58.877 --> 01:30:59.798
[SPEAKER_02]: Coming up to the ring.

01:31:00.038 --> 01:31:06.167
[SPEAKER_02]: We then had the MJF entrance full devil outfit.

01:31:06.147 --> 01:31:19.583
[SPEAKER_02]: Basically, the loosened for crown, whole black get up with scents and your, your not favorite the upside down crucifixes all over his take.

01:31:19.715 --> 01:31:23.860
[SPEAKER_02]: There was a little bit of El Cetanico, a couple of other inspirations.

01:31:24.461 --> 01:31:25.722
[SPEAKER_02]: He was trying to get heat.

01:31:25.742 --> 01:31:27.204
[SPEAKER_02]: He was trying to offend people.

01:31:27.805 --> 01:31:28.065
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.

01:31:28.085 --> 01:31:29.787
[SPEAKER_00]: They're playing a great god for something.

01:31:29.928 --> 01:31:30.368
[SPEAKER_02]: Great.

01:31:30.408 --> 01:31:33.171
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, a prod, but you come to JF.

01:31:33.192 --> 01:31:35.134
[SPEAKER_02]: He goes for the reactions.

01:31:36.576 --> 01:31:40.160
[SPEAKER_02]: We had an over, almost a 35 minute match, I think.

01:31:40.721 --> 01:31:42.443
[SPEAKER_02]: Kenny Omega came out there.

01:31:42.463 --> 01:31:49.131
[SPEAKER_02]: They wanted to tell you that his abdomen was fine.

01:31:49.634 --> 01:31:54.379
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, you know what I mean, it was that kind of psychological type match.

01:31:56.061 --> 01:32:02.669
[SPEAKER_02]: I told you in the beginning, I thought this was a very good match, but I also thought that they had a better match in them.

01:32:03.670 --> 01:32:07.174
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, I'm just gonna let you just go with it and tell me what you thought about it.

01:32:08.635 --> 01:32:10.978
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I would say I was higher on the new word.

01:32:11.499 --> 01:32:13.701
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I...

01:32:14.221 --> 01:32:17.749
[SPEAKER_00]: I had the part of that was because I have set my levels of Kenny Omega.

01:32:17.949 --> 01:32:23.281
[SPEAKER_00]: I released my soft from ever expecting Kenny Omega to have legendary match ever again.

01:32:23.421 --> 01:32:24.283
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't expect it.

01:32:24.363 --> 01:32:25.405
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't need it from him.

01:32:25.446 --> 01:32:27.049
[SPEAKER_00]: He's done his work.

01:32:27.485 --> 01:32:33.254
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, and, um, I don't, I don't need him to do that anymore.

01:32:34.115 --> 01:32:40.364
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, that said, I was hopeful that this would, that he would see this as, you know what?

01:32:40.404 --> 01:32:49.958
[SPEAKER_00]: This is probably my last big run, probably, at the last big match of like closing a show as the, as the world title match.

01:32:50.439 --> 01:32:55.787
[SPEAKER_00]: And I know, and in my head, I was imagining him that this was him.

01:32:55.767 --> 01:33:06.999
[SPEAKER_00]: Really truly what he was trying to do in the last M.J. F. match was really put him over as champion and take all the equity that he's built up over time and and help and fuse it into him.

01:33:07.019 --> 01:33:17.591
[SPEAKER_00]: And man, a big fight field in now the the atmosphere was electric the ring intros felt great.

01:33:18.011 --> 01:33:19.212
[SPEAKER_00]: The crowd was really into it.

01:33:19.253 --> 01:33:21.555
[SPEAKER_00]: They were doing chance at one point.

01:33:21.535 --> 01:33:39.697
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, a lot of NJPW, uh, Kenny kind of came out a little bit, even like the way that he did the drug the table over the top of him and did the stop onto the table, which is not something I don't think I can remember him doing in AEW as much, but he used to do more in, uh, New Japan.

01:33:39.717 --> 01:33:50.209
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, he is not, you know, as crisp as he used to be, he doesn't have quite as much spring

01:33:50.560 --> 01:33:57.911
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, they matched up well, M.J. if I feel distilled, like you, you, you, you, you hit the nail head.

01:33:58.011 --> 01:34:02.217
[SPEAKER_00]: He's top five, you know, it all around in the world.

01:34:03.099 --> 01:34:12.192
[SPEAKER_00]: And he, I feel that he still does not get enough credit for how good he is in ring of, of being able to keep up with people doing crazy stuff.

01:34:13.334 --> 01:34:17.260
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, and make the timing look right to be able to express himself,

01:34:17.240 --> 01:34:31.645
[SPEAKER_00]: in between moves that are moving really fast and also he's learned how to do it without what he did in his first run which is kill himself like by doing like elbow drops from the top turnbuckle to the floor onto his hip.

01:34:33.768 --> 01:34:36.453
[SPEAKER_02]: So is this like doing a lot better in this run, right?

01:34:36.473 --> 01:34:42.403
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it was a safer match even though that top row there was a Kenny hit a top rope

01:34:42.383 --> 01:34:49.373
[SPEAKER_00]: When we angel facing the turn buckle, which looked wild, and

01:34:50.517 --> 01:35:04.771
[SPEAKER_00]: I felt like they struck a good balance between Kenny being the Kenny of old crossed with still has some weaknesses and really built to really good nearfalls.

01:35:06.112 --> 01:35:17.503
[SPEAKER_00]: I can remember exactly what I'll lead to the finish, but the rough time was kind of like Kenny went

01:35:17.483 --> 01:35:21.209
[SPEAKER_02]: Matt's pulled Paul into the way.

01:35:21.269 --> 01:35:26.618
[SPEAKER_02]: Kenny was apple plastic when the ref went down.

01:35:26.678 --> 01:35:34.151
[SPEAKER_02]: Matt's spent three minutes in, uh, it is pocket trying to get the ring.

01:35:34.171 --> 01:35:34.291
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

01:35:34.551 --> 01:35:37.536
[SPEAKER_00]: He even told him I can't find your, I can't get into your pocket.

01:35:37.957 --> 01:35:38.738
[SPEAKER_00]: Brian was Bryce.

01:35:38.758 --> 01:35:40.441
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

01:35:40.461 --> 01:35:40.521
[UNKNOWN]: Uh,

01:35:40.737 --> 01:36:05.597
[SPEAKER_02]: Come back, come back to it, they end up outside, you have the storm with with the, you have the, you have the fight outside the ring, then max gives him the pile driver outside of the table brings him back in gives him the heat seeker and get the pin without even pinning the leg.

01:36:06.742 --> 01:36:09.028
[SPEAKER_00]: Yep, Queen of Anna.

01:36:09.930 --> 01:36:13.540
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so it was solid win and I'm here for it.

01:36:14.222 --> 01:36:20.278
[SPEAKER_00]: I I'm not as nostalgic about Kenny having a time never thought Kenny was winning.

01:36:20.933 --> 01:36:23.336
[SPEAKER_00]: I never, I thought it could happen.

01:36:23.416 --> 01:36:24.617
[SPEAKER_00]: I never expected it to.

01:36:25.318 --> 01:36:30.044
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm happy with this string of wins that MJF is starting to have.

01:36:30.084 --> 01:36:36.492
[SPEAKER_00]: It is a big move because they're making big sacrifices to get MJF over with Hangman.

01:36:37.112 --> 01:36:37.273
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

01:36:37.293 --> 01:36:38.514
[SPEAKER_02]: 100% Hangman the issue.

01:36:38.794 --> 01:36:39.355
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, yeah.

01:36:39.475 --> 01:36:48.266
[SPEAKER_02]: Why would you have Hangman give up a world title shot if like the booking plan and for MJF to just lose the title next about anyways?

01:36:48.626 --> 01:36:50.248
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

01:36:51.595 --> 01:36:56.304
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's how I feel about this coming Wednesday, too, is why would you, why would you be investing?

01:36:56.865 --> 01:37:01.334
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, we learn a lot from John News talking about, you build, you're building up equity and you cash it in.

01:37:02.156 --> 01:37:09.750
[SPEAKER_00]: And why would you be building up this much equity just to write a check on it right away?

01:37:09.811 --> 01:37:12.135
[SPEAKER_00]: Which is what I felt about hanging in.

01:37:12.436 --> 01:37:32.605
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, uh, losing the tile in the first place to Joe like you use you need to tell me you spent this much time building hangman up as the main character of a W just to have him lose to some Moa Joe who I love, uh, you know, a couple of months not a couple of a few months later like.

01:37:34.711 --> 01:38:01.883
[SPEAKER_00]: That's what concerns me a little bit is that I think he has, I think Tony is a big picture in mind and he seems to be very back focused like he was in the early days about like here's the arc I'm going to get to and here's what I want to get to I'm just concerned that he's got some little side trips in there that you know maybe maybe some other people are in their ear you know of like that he seems like he can do it

01:38:02.825 --> 01:38:29.068
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, or he's just got too many people he wants to keep up at the top there, but to me, it's just you've got a, you've got a, you've got a, you've got a run in MGF right now that you can keep going and have it be a great world title run that will cement him as a great world champion in the history books.

01:38:30.820 --> 01:38:32.604
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it was the right call for MDF to do it.

01:38:32.725 --> 01:38:39.181
[SPEAKER_02]: I think building to work to top baby faith to the future and not one of the baby faiths of the past is probably the play.

01:38:39.983 --> 01:38:46.298
[SPEAKER_02]: And so, right decision, even if I didn't love the match, I just really, really liked it.

01:38:46.582 --> 01:38:51.547
[SPEAKER_02]: Kevin, I got a couple of things from the, from the presser, if you want me to share.

01:38:51.567 --> 01:38:52.568
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm what's true.

01:38:53.388 --> 01:38:55.691
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's like Gabe kid is out indefinitely.

01:38:55.751 --> 01:38:57.673
[SPEAKER_02]: It is in fact his shoulder.

01:38:59.975 --> 01:39:05.460
[SPEAKER_02]: Kevin Knight talked about Renee called him the future of the entire industry.

01:39:05.480 --> 01:39:12.567
[SPEAKER_02]: Kevin Knight noted that this looks his first ever single title, not just in AEW and wow.

01:39:13.067 --> 01:39:15.930
[SPEAKER_02]: He is very excited about

01:39:15.910 --> 01:39:42.188
[SPEAKER_02]: He was about main eventing the March Hitchcock show and he learned he would book for it when he saw the in-house but online Tony of homogenes but notes they haven't stepped up like he has in the path and because given the circumstances everyone wants to do their best for that this is where we got the night versus Claudio and now I'll put it for the TNT title and Kevin Knight was here for that

01:39:42.252 --> 01:39:50.697
[SPEAKER_02]: Tony put cover tech law in Kevin night as well as speedball and mystical is recent kind of who have receded.

01:39:51.961 --> 01:39:53.325
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, see here.

01:39:57.440 --> 01:39:59.182
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, it's a shame about Gates.

01:39:59.302 --> 01:40:05.130
[SPEAKER_02]: Tony asked about Ricochet's MS comments on social media and does AEW have a social media policy.

01:40:05.570 --> 01:40:09.936
[SPEAKER_02]: Tony said he had a good friend talk with Ricochet where he made clear those comments were not acceptable.

01:40:10.356 --> 01:40:14.221
[SPEAKER_02]: They do have a social media policy and they're moving on from it.

01:40:14.862 --> 01:40:16.804
[SPEAKER_02]: The obligatory will you come back.

01:40:17.285 --> 01:40:21.490
[SPEAKER_02]: Tony says he wants to do a TV paper review and Vancouver for years to come.

01:40:21.824 --> 01:40:27.480
[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm gonna ask about all in the response of the slow down everybody.

01:40:27.983 --> 01:40:34.090
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, see, Tony has asked about MLP's global war show.

01:40:34.150 --> 01:40:35.452
[SPEAKER_02]: He says it's like for Ben Dore.

01:40:35.912 --> 01:40:37.674
[SPEAKER_02]: He booked a visit with the other promoter.

01:40:38.095 --> 01:40:41.739
[SPEAKER_02]: Like Scott Demore, if doing it, like having a bunch of promotional partners.

01:40:42.320 --> 01:40:45.744
[SPEAKER_02]: And it allowed him work with guys like Stu Grace and who he enjoyed.

01:40:45.764 --> 01:40:49.509
[SPEAKER_02]: And that he really liked, you really like to Canada.

01:40:49.809 --> 01:40:53.053
[SPEAKER_02]: Calls it his thick home, Kevin.

01:40:53.834 --> 01:40:54.514
[SPEAKER_04]: His thick home.

01:40:54.875 --> 01:40:56.657
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah.

01:40:57.734 --> 01:41:02.921
[SPEAKER_02]: He's asked about a relationship with Tokyo, Josie Pro, and DDT, Tony Jiff gave a bit of a smile.

01:41:03.041 --> 01:41:04.943
[SPEAKER_02]: So Zia, he'd like to work with them.

01:41:05.624 --> 01:41:12.152
[SPEAKER_02]: And he said that tonight's show was the most changes he had to make over a pay-per-view cycle since the original forbidden door.

01:41:12.773 --> 01:41:20.222
[SPEAKER_02]: There were a few changes to the card, Fletcher's Injury, Tony Storm's absence, but there were all go other changes.

01:41:21.163 --> 01:41:24.788
[SPEAKER_02]: And, uh, yeah.

01:41:25.882 --> 01:41:32.751
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm seeing if there's anything else here, I'm just trying to cover the I think that's pretty much it.

01:41:33.732 --> 01:41:35.314
[SPEAKER_00]: So Wednesday, we got three title matches.

01:41:35.675 --> 01:41:36.916
[SPEAKER_02]: We'll retry the matches.

01:41:37.137 --> 01:41:45.147
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I'm Camille MJF and Darby and the TNT title with Kevin Knight and Claudio.

01:41:45.608 --> 01:41:50.354
[SPEAKER_02]: We'll have pleasure on Thursday instead of this weekend, not going to head with WrestleMania.

01:41:51.035 --> 01:41:55.180
[SPEAKER_02]: Before we go, your favorite matching, your least

01:41:56.392 --> 01:42:09.009
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I would say my favorite was probably Osprey and Moxley, okay, and, uh, least favorite, maybe the content actually, you guys.

01:42:09.770 --> 01:42:11.252
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, probably the gauntlet.

01:42:11.332 --> 01:42:14.196
[SPEAKER_00]: They were up, but don't, I had no complaints really on the show.

01:42:14.256 --> 01:42:15.517
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't really have a least favorite.

01:42:16.519 --> 01:42:22.366
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and they were all met expectations, like we said, but it's just personal, perfect, perfect, which one.

01:42:22.587 --> 01:42:25.791
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, didn't tickle your

01:42:26.092 --> 01:42:34.105
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm going to go with the the tag match open show, the main show is my favorite and Rekashay and Jericho is my least favorite.

01:42:35.467 --> 01:42:36.048
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I would.

01:42:36.369 --> 01:42:38.432
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they're probably my other one.

01:42:39.013 --> 01:42:48.488
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, maybe we'll see you again soon, Kevin Elee, but until then, if there anything you'd like to plug anything you're personal life that you like to, you know.

01:42:48.923 --> 01:42:50.505
[SPEAKER_02]: Talk about anything at all.

01:42:50.585 --> 01:42:54.710
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't really have any public tracing things going on right now.

01:42:54.730 --> 01:42:57.533
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, you got an answer, a blue sky account that you want to plug?

01:42:59.596 --> 01:43:01.358
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm very, you know, I'm on Instagram.

01:43:01.538 --> 01:43:06.805
[SPEAKER_00]: But really if you want to, if you want to interact, the best place would be, it just come to the Fiky Media Discorks.

01:43:06.845 --> 01:43:09.348
[SPEAKER_00]: That's usually where I'm actually hanging out the most.

01:43:10.149 --> 01:43:12.972
[SPEAKER_02]: Email ggFikymedia.com to get invite there.

01:43:13.032 --> 01:43:17.698
[SPEAKER_02]: And we, we chat it up and try to act like adults for most of the time.

01:43:20.378 --> 01:43:21.662
[SPEAKER_02]: Kevin, I want to thank you so much.

01:43:21.903 --> 01:43:25.514
[SPEAKER_02]: It has been too long and please, let's not make it too long.

01:43:25.534 --> 01:43:26.757
[SPEAKER_02]: Could we do this again?

01:43:26.778 --> 01:43:28.061
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, thank you for asking me.

01:43:28.142 --> 01:43:32.515
[SPEAKER_00]: It's been a long time and it's nice to still be brought into the fold.

01:43:33.119 --> 01:43:33.980
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

01:43:34.401 --> 01:43:40.530
[SPEAKER_02]: All right, everybody, we're going to be back for, I guess, double or nothing in the end of May.

01:43:40.610 --> 01:43:41.431
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what day.

01:43:41.871 --> 01:43:55.551
[SPEAKER_02]: If guys are Memorial Day weekend or the weekend after it's in May, it's whatever, you can come back and see me talking about NutriPan pro wrestling this Thursday, 530 PM Eastern, alongside Kevin Elee Stephen Conway.

01:43:55.611 --> 01:43:56.292
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean,

01:43:57.706 --> 01:44:09.731
[SPEAKER_02]: And we talk every night for 90 minutes, whatever happened in New Japan this past week, we had a really great discussion about what it meant for Calum Newman to be the new IWGP champion.

01:44:09.952 --> 01:44:11.254
[SPEAKER_02]: Why did it happen?

01:44:11.996 --> 01:44:14.922
[SPEAKER_02]: Talk about the best of the super genius and.

01:44:14.902 --> 01:44:25.763
[SPEAKER_02]: All the other stuff that's happening in New Japan, it's really exciting time to be a new Japan fan, really exciting time to be an AEW fan, really exciting time to be a CMLL fan.

01:44:25.803 --> 01:44:30.472
[SPEAKER_02]: So try and find your people and enjoy your wrestling and everybody.

01:44:31.013 --> 01:44:35.121
[SPEAKER_02]: And for Kevin, for myself, we will see you next time.