AEW Dynamite Title Tuesday: Moné's Challenger, Okada's Shot, Moxley's War | The Dynamite Show

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[SPEAKER_02]: Dino Ma!

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hey everybody, it's Dynamite Show, Paul Fontaine, Jeff Hawkins.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Here on Wednesday night feels like we're late, but we're actually like 20 minutes earlier than we usually record.

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[SPEAKER_00]: because a w aired a day early for late and well, and my apologies to Jeff Jeff was sitting in the green room last night waiting for me, because I said, let's go at our regular time, but I said Tuesday and I meant our regular time, which is Wednesday, but yeah, so yeah, because last night,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, I was not going to be able to record.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I it was date night.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't even get home till an hour after dynamite started and uh, there was also baseball and plus I wanted to watch this next T show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I also thanks everyone on the, uh, fighting media for your interview.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So last week, somebody had asked us if we were going to like talk about NXT 2 and I think just because it was like a head to head.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think, I like now we're not going to run down the NXT show or anything, but I assume you watched it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'll say my thoughts and I'm curious on yours in general.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought the best match on either night was Ethan page and Mustafa Ali.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, yeah, and that surprised me, like going in, I would have, I would have bet a lot of money that it would have been something on the AW show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I will say like, I liked a lot of the matches on the AW show, like I always give my ratings, I write them down on my spreadsheet, and then you know, I'll often check them with cage match and I'm usually pretty in line with what they say, occasionally I'm a little higher, occasionally I'm a little lower, and as I was watching, I'm like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like the ratings I gave, I thought I almost felt that they felt low, but then when I looked at the cage match, I might have been high.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So like they didn't really like a lot of these matches on Dynamite and I haven't listened to Wrestling Observer Radio, but it sounds like Dave absolutely loved the show and probably

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's not that the matches weren't good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's that they didn't really mean anything for the most of us.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There are no stakes in them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And there was no, oh my God, it's the other person going to possibly win this match type thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like to me, the most anticipated match on the show was probably the Takeshita O'Kada versus...

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[SPEAKER_01]: Bandido and and and and Brody.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Brody.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Brody King.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, almost almost that one up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I did.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that one was a match that happened is to drive Kevin Ely crazy, crumbulent, but there was no real heat involved.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was there was a mild story about the shoulder abandoned.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and the other story was that they couldn't get along.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and that they couldn't get along, but it wasn't the real they couldn't get along, it's the pro wrestling they couldn't get along and it's just, but they're doing too much of this partners can't get along and then they win anyways.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, like I would actually like the story more and here and as well as with the acclaimed and I think there's one other one, if they actually lost because they couldn't get along.

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[SPEAKER_00]: To me that would be a better story.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, no, no, it was the Joe and Hangman when they were tagging right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, there was not, but I think there's one other one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I could be wrong, but maybe I'm thinking of WWE because I know it's happening in WWE.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, it's always happening in WWE, but here's the thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If if they couldn't get along because they were beating the crap out of Bandito and one was enjoying it way more than the other.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe I could get along with that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But this was just moves and doing moves and smear like banging into each other, but it's almost like comedy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's kind of stuff Dave likes, but it's not the kind of stuff that to me compels an audience to watch professional wrestling, which is also indicative of, I guess, because if you haven't listened to wrestling,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no, I mean, I'm just guy is falling and nobody's watching wrestling and blah, blah, blah, blah, and he gives the line.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, we shouldn't be, you know, reading too much into this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I go, but you are right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's see if it was an anomaly or not.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's see if this was an outlier.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Why if you read the observer?

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[SPEAKER_00]: um Dave is actually like when he talks about the ratings he says what I believe to be the real rating and then he quotes the old one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so he's not even he's basically saying he doesn't believe these ratings.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Correct.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if you saw it, but I'll put them over.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Russell Joy website had an article today.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I really, really good, detailed, well-researched article, explaining how this new rating thing works.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And theorizing why it might be hurting wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And one of the things that fascinated me, and I didn't even think about this is, Kate, so what happens is they take this data

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[SPEAKER_00]: And in these cases, they're monitoring set top boxes that aren't even on, but they're or they're on, but they're not being watched because what happens is nobody ever shuts their cable top box off.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so if you have an on and you leave it on TNT, um, and they make count you is watching Dynamite.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But, or TBS, as I guess it is, but what happens is, if that TV channel stays on the same channel for a designated length of time, and that designated length of time is less than two hours, they assume that your box is off, and they don't count the rating.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So because which, which wrestling is now considered, it's a non-direct.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So if it's a sporting event, they allow it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But if it's a non-sporting event, they ignore it because they assume that the set top box is off because nobody's going to sit there and watch a show for two straight hours.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is there is the theory?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And in most cases, that's true because most television shows aren't two hours, but right is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So they have not corrected for wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's necessary.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And for if we're lucky, it's two hours.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, exactly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And in some case, next week's going to be three.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm I may make an executive decision and say, we're starting our show at the regular time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because that third hour, if last time is any indication, that's just collision.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We don't need to.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, they said it's an added collision.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we're not watching it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I'll watch it, but we're not covering it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: People watching it, they can update us if anything happens, but let's move on to something more interesting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, to me at least.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Did you read the

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, do you have thoughts on this, Paul?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so for those that didn't read the article, the point of the article was that AW got a kickback from Garland, Texas.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Believe that's a city.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Kickback.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, wow.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, hey, before I answer this, DJ Cass, $10 super chat.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you so much.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Long time no see.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Referee training has been great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Awesome.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hope you're doing well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think everyone has forgotten.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We lost a good amount of fans over the last 30 years.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not being talked about.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, it's talked about and I would say even over the last 15 years.

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[SPEAKER_00]: maybe 20 that 20 for sure that we lost a lot of fans like in that 2001 to 2010 range a lot of people drift it off.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I that's great that DJ I can't wait you got a lot of snow when you get on a show and we are going to be doing a show DJ and I know you contributed some of the money to that so hopefully you'll enjoy it we're going to be reviewing the show where Tully Blanchard wrestled and

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but uh, so thanks again, DJ cast.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So back to um, I can answer his question.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Why, why fans at least over the last 15 years aren't back is because they look at guys who are wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They don't look like wrestlers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There is a lot of that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There is a lot of that and and I know that a lot of people don't want to hear that and I know that wrestling is better off for not having lots of jacked up steroid and cocaine guys on roster and stuff like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: like I just remember showing wrestling to my brother and he's like those guys are wrestlers I think it's believed that jacked up like you know we're not talking like the Brock Lesnar right but even like if they're smaller you want them to look like athletes well yes and and also it's the presentation that you don't see promos anymore really you see you know you see set pieces designed to have you know I start talking my opponent comes out interrupts me we have a tent of tent fight break up

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[SPEAKER_01]: rinse and repeat.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's no like I can spend hours watching old 80s promos just compilations of them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Even if they're not good, they're at least these guys had to try something to stay on the roster or stay in the good graces of whoever was booking at the time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just see there's a lot of that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think wrestling fans also don't make it easy to be a wrestling fan anymore.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think there's a lot of that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a lot of gatekeeping that happens.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but back to the yeah, so yeah, so the people that didn't know they got so they had promised that they were going to have an attendance of 34,000 I believe was the number and the city told them okay if you do that will give you a million dollars in subsidies.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And what happened was they didn't hit their goal, and based on the attendance that they did get, they only got 700,000.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And what's been reported now is that what how many people that were actually at all in was 22,000.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, you may recall that sometime the week of that show, they passed 25,000 on a ticket master or Russell Ticks was reporting over 25,000.

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[SPEAKER_00]: By the day of the show, it was like 28.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then Tony Khan in the presser after said, I didn't see the final number, but I believe we are close to 29,000.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, if they did 22,000 as is in the official documents, so I believe that would be the real attendance.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They overexaggerated by over 30%.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And wrestling, they do that?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, they do, but I'm being sarcastic, but I know, but what it sounds like they paper the house.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, it's that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: WWE, for instance, will have, and they don't do this as much anymore, actually, but back in the day, they would sell 50,000 tickets to a WrestleMania, and then they would announce the attendance as 62,430.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They've

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[SPEAKER_00]: So but even that is only 24% higher this is 30% so this would have been like WWE taking that 50,000 and saying you know like we did 65 and they rarely would do that but the the other part of this and and this is what I think is interesting is when they would do that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: your reporters, whether it's Dave Meltzer, Wade Keller, Sean Rossap, any of them would immediately say, no, the attendance would go on the screen on the WrestleMania, 64,238, and they would come up, no, no, no, no, the actual attendance was we got it from ticket master of 52,000 blah, blah, blah, blah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They would immediately correct it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Here, when Tony Con said, oh, we had 20,000 in the building, everyone took it as fact and reported it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And only now four months later, four months later, now the real numbers coming out, are they going to report this?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I am here for the epic distrust of both companies.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I am.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I am.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sorry.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I have lived far too long in a media world or WWE are a bunch of lying liars who lie and send cheese boards to people.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, oh, I was trying to get that spit taken.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't get, and he w, are these magical truth-tailing fairies who come down and bless us with honesty.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, oh, I am here, lied to me.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Lie to be everybody.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Come on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And, and I think what's happening now is I don't think Tony Khan can be believed when he says things in some cases.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There he also, like here's been a number of shows where he has come out before the show or the day of the show and said, oh, we did a million dollar gate.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then, you know, three months later, the poll started out, it comes out and it was 740,000.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And maybe we'll see less Tony come then on screen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think so, because people want to believe it and people want.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I do too, don't get me wrong.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to believe it, but I don't want to be lied to.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, we got it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no, no, no, you don't understand.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to believe.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you just want to be lied to.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I just want to be lied to.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just want, I want some some veneer.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Being kept out in the dark.

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[SPEAKER_01]: by these wrestling cup.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I am tired of watching sausage get made Paul.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I am tired of hearing about everybody's contract details and what not in the news and oh yeah one more thing we'll have to want to mention for who has this and who has that and who doesn't like each other backstage because nobody can keep their mouth shut because they go running to all these people anytime they they have their feelings hurt or

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[SPEAKER_01]: I am here for a cone of silence by wrestling promoters in some ways.

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[SPEAKER_00]: DJ Cass again, thank you for another super chat.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and I'm glad he made this point because this was a point I wanted to make about the NXT and the NXT and the NXT and the NXT W thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because I feel exactly the same as him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I will conclude that neither WWE or AEW really have a happy medium when it comes to modern day

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, and when I will start, so I watched a dynamite last night and then I watched NXT this morning and I was five minutes into that hearty's dark state match when it hit me like a ton of bricks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I wish one of these companies had the wrestling that a W has and the booking and production that WWE has or even personality I go that far because the production I can have a slick production in AEW with the occasional they never get sound right every week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, no.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my god.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That mean event.

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[SPEAKER_00]: When we get to it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my god.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They fucked up bad.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That mean event.

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[SPEAKER_00]: one is all person out of what is all presentation yes all sizzle and ones all stake and I made this point when I watched the takedown or when I did the takedown with Garrett on Monday last week when the NXT show was over I was so hyped up for this week show because they spent that whole show building up to this week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And, and then when a W show was over, it was like we had, I think, three matches with or two.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, it's three.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was the street fight.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was a Mercedes open challenge and it was, um, the, uh, Bandito, brodito against, uh, it's no kind of talent.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we didn't even know about the steps.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's, that's all we knew.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, yeah, they're kind of mailing it in.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then by Monday, when collision happened and Tony Con released a full card, that was almost like a paper view, which for God knows what reason he didn't promote it on Dynamite.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then when I sat down and actually looked at the TNAC, the NXT TNAC card that I was so excited for on Tuesday, I looked at him like, this isn't really much, I don't know what I'm excited about.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But then when, so they, it's because they did such a great job of promoting a shitty show,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, yeah, which is kind of part of the course on this episode of Dynamite that we're supposed to watch.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Thanks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The super chats.

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[SPEAKER_01]: By the way, yeah, there's a death triangle squash match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it makes it makes them look so much better than that was walk and Luke and Penta and Phoenix, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but this was Phoenix and Pock as a tag team.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's it's John Skyler and

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[SPEAKER_01]: D3.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think is the name of the other guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No John Skyler as a guy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: D3 was the guy that was was getting a lot of run.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but, but it's those two and they just get run through like a hot knife through butter and it's like yes, that's all but that's all I want in in a wrestling show kind of thing and it made them feel so much bigger than if they had come and done like a 15 minute

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[SPEAKER_01]: match versus say the dark order or something like that or light Christian and Lee Johnson.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, the swirl.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The swirl.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, it's there's no thud.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just swirl.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Are you sure about that?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, I think it's this world.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll take the swirl, but I think it's just a swirl.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, it doesn't matter, they suck.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They don't suck, they're great, but the problem is, no, they suck because they don't as a matter.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because last week on collision or maybe the week before, they had a match with Anthony Bowen to Max Caster, who are both losers that can't get along and they beat them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So if two losers that never beat anybody, can't get along and still manage to beat you, guess what, you suck.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Any K-F-A-B-S, yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, in K-F-A, and I'm watching in K-F-A.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, I agree.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, all right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's get to this show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We had an F, we had history on the show, Paul.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was amazing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, we did.

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[SPEAKER_01]: For the first time ever, we had a competent security guard.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: OK.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's not very the lead.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, OK.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Here's something I think I'm the only person that has pointed out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: with regards to this competent security guru, which by the way, well, there's two things that I'm the only person I've seen point out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Number one, that frickin running tackle he gave Darby.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That is the most violent thing I've seen anybody on wrestling, on wrestling, in like all year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And this was us, you know, in K-Fabe, a security guard.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I assume the guy was an indie wrestler, but what sign this guy?

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was an awesome tackle.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like he looked like he killed Derby.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was a Terry Tate office linebacker stuff right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The other thing, how long have the deathwriters been a thing?

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're going on a year now, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're going on two years now at least.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, because there's black people coming back home before that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it started a year ago, just over a year ago.

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[SPEAKER_00]: When, when Moxley and Daniel sin wrestle, I think I was like Wrestle Dream last year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, regardless, it's over a year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They have been doing nasty nasty things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They are trying to kill people.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They are attaching announcers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're wrapping people in barbed wire.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're throwing people down stairs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're wrapping plastic bags around people's heads.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're not rewinding their VHS tapes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Had security ever once stopped them from doing anything.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, because they're all geeks who get beat up for the say, no, no, answer my question.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Has security ever known no one time somebody tries to do something to them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: the security department security finally showed up to protect the death riders.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, we didn't have that one time where security was almost competent.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We caught Chris Daniels, belating himself on camera, which did you see Tony Khan comparing A. W. wrestlers to superheroes and supervillains?

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a DC crossover coming.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he called John

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[SPEAKER_00]: So Tony Kahn thinks that John Mozzley is a hero, which makes it, oh, why his security would protect Mozzley, but not protect other wrestlers from the deathwriters.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We will get to this awesome security job and again, where hats off, they did it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Although, although there is some stupidity tackling a guy with a Molotov cocktail.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, there is that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, and given Darby's history with fire, I wouldn't have been too worried about it anyway.

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[SPEAKER_01]: By the way, we have now entered a brand new realm.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we've had guns in wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We haven't had Molotov cocktails in wrestling to you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I almost think I swear.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think we have.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, it's possible we haven't, but I will say I know for a fact that I used it knee wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I never did anything original.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's why I think I probably saw it somewhere.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, yeah, but yeah, let's let's let's let's let's push him on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we started out with the promo segment with Hangman and Samoa Joe and I got to say, so I didn't like transcribe everything that that either one of them said, but my general feelings on this was Hangman started out and he was he was given his monologue and the fans were not responding to him at all.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He was pausing, waiting for, well, not waiting, but he was giving them an opportunity to respond to certain key points that he was saying and they were quite.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, he wrote out the applause lines in his outlook.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But then Joe started talking and did the same thing, and the fans responded to Joe, the way you would have expected the fans to respond to Joe.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and then when Hangman responded to Joe's response, they were into it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The key here was he talked about everything he's done.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he basically gave his AW history lesson and all the different things he's done.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Reminded people of things that he probably shouldn't have reminded them of,

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[SPEAKER_00]: uh that he was the safe puff marshmallow man committed arson, you know, like just things and then he's and then he was went on to talk about how he was confused about Joe now I thought they got this all settled last week, but apparently not and uh and then but he came down to he thinks that you're jealousy want my belt and then Joe kind of Joe says you know what everything this guy said is right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I was like, okay, and then he's like, but he said like you, he said you I didn't give this shot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't get the shot because you're giving it to me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I earned it and at all in we got we went in there to make sure the fight between you and mox would be fair.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I appreciate it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I owe you for it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was sorry.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This was our hangman was saying so.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, so Joe said that your, he said, yeah, you, everything he says right, you're the champion, but you're a defender.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You wouldn't be the champ if we hadn't ensured it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If we didn't have your back, you wouldn't be the man right now, and he said, in the middle of all this, I forgot who I was.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But now I know you're not a champion.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're out here doing hustle, fake gratitude.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I gave you the opportunity to win that belt.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You want it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Congratulations.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But now I'm coming, collect on what's due.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Russell dream you're going to be standing across from me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to beat you, break you, torture you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And at some point, you're going to have the opportunity to say it to be the man you say you are and that's the point I'm going to choke you out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you'll know your place and we'll have a real world champion and then hang man got all fired up and this is where they responded to him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He said he's two time world champion, you're probably going to beat my ass, but if every shot you give me, I'll give you two back when you put me in a choke, I won't tap out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're not going to last me when the match is over, final bill is running your flat on your back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I hope you bring the same energy that you brought to all in.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I hope when it's over, you're going to stand up, shake my hand and know that I'm the champion of the world.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought it was okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Joe was great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hangman was hitting Miss.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you have kind of the same report card I had.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Segment one was a Miss Joe comes in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was a hit and then when Hangman responded, it was more of a hit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If John Moxley is Batman, then Adam Page is too face and and here here's the problem and and it's it's a very simple theater kid acting note you give.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Have the emotion when you start your promo and I've given that on here, but for that yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: because that first part of the promo that expositiony crap that he's saying number one he's the heel on on that part of it where it's where it's like I don't know what you were doing you know when you dropped your own belts or whatever it's like why are you hitting yourself why are you hitting yourself and then expecting to be the baby face for it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He keeps reminding people he's an arsonist, which is stupid.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Stop that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's bad for the character when you are the top baby face in the thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know what they're thinking.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're thinking, oh, this makes me more like stone coal than I'm a take charge kind of guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, you ain't stop that crap.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, here's what happened.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He did the same thing in the Kyle Fletcher feud, too, because this is the poison pill of hangman page as your champion is that every feud he tries to find common ground with his enemy before he goes

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[SPEAKER_01]: and becomes hangman page again.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's conciliatory, it's dumb.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He needs to stop this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just, and what happened was, exposition, Joe comes right out and Joe's awesome, Joe, you're a fraud.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Which, and then hangman gets angry.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I am not a fraud, sir.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Which is the real emotion.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it flips the switch and hangman.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he gets intense and he starts yelling at a guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's like, yes, that's when we want to see.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We watch wrestling to see the fire.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We don't watch.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, thank you very much for helping me win this title.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm the champ, come and get it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, you're a fraud.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm coming in to get it, boom, and there it is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you're just like, and I was just like, oh, it's so simple.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All you gotta do now is just go in there and troll Hangman.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then he'll start being Hangman being an interesting jet, but right now that first beat of the Hangman promo, he is the dullest superhero possible.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He is Harvey Dent.

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[SPEAKER_01]: vanilla white bread on that half of on that half and then you trigger him and it becomes a badass monster like two face and it's just one of those things where you're just watching going

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[SPEAKER_01]: God, if he doesn't have interesting enemies, he's going to die a death in a few, because he's never going to get there until somebody pisses him off.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Joe's a guy who always has that tough guy thing and basically Eggman called him Fat in this promo, which I lied to, nobody ever knew.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, you're going to beat me up for a while and then you're going to run out of steam.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he should have just started with Joe, honestly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, yeah, yeah, and that's another note type thing for writers and performers starting the middle of the scene.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We don't need the explanation.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's starting the middle like the Superman movie, which started out awesome.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's he's losing the fight.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, now we got something right directly into this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If Joe had just come out and go, you're a fraud.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that was the beginning of it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We are off to the races, man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Remember last week when you said that when they had this video package that you thought was awesome and you thought they should have kicked off the show with it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, the the sticks anniversary yeah well tonight or so the day before maybe it was maybe it was during the afternoon of of this show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They aired on they put it on social media.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was a top 10 countdown of the top 10 moments at Daily's place.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was freaking awesome.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They should have put that on this show, but not like the video package.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They should have split it up into 10 things and done it like in and out of a break.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's the show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it would have been awesome.

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[SPEAKER_01]: As your intro and intro.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, it would have been awesome.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I wanted to mention that night.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I forgot it, but it wouldn't because that was one thing with the NXT show is they started with this frickin' awesome video package running down the NXT TNAF feud.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it was like, you're all hyped up for the show now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And here it was like, uh, we're just going to talk about we're going to just rehash old history and then we're going to talk about Russell dream, which is fine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, they got a paper to promote, but I didn't think it was a great way to, uh, to no check out the next thing what the NXT show did was it understood it was a push for people to go by the TNA paper view.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now we got another promo segment with the conglomeration.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was, it was fine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was Marcosco being wacky.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Kyle O'Reilly needs to stop.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's this trouble ended up with him walking, walking away from the camera like Frank it's done.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Must kill Kyle and I'm like, who told him this was a good idea?

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's, he's Michael Scott.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, no, he's, what's, he was at home to his character on that show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not sure he is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, no, that's who he is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, is he?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now if someone in the chat probably is he's the boring guy who thinks he is personality and he got personality once and that he Bernard and he can be Bernard but yeah he's oh my god and yeah so like brisco doesn't have some problem and he's your manager takes he's one of the guys and you know hey he goes to comes up to you at the coffee station or whatever hey did you watch that baseball game last night I put I put I put I said it's a company.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I said it this couple months ago in the discord and lady B said it was perfect.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'll repeat it here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's a guy when you're in high school that would hang around with the cool kids, but they didn't really like him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then like, and eventually they would just get sick of him being there, but he always acted like he was friends with them, but he really wasn't.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He had a car and he had a car and a good

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[SPEAKER_00]: and he didn't even have a license.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so, and by the way, I was that guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, no, but Mark Briscoe being the personality here is great, especially because he, he goes off so well, compared to orange castes, he was just doing the ironic, you know, cool thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think he's still going to hear an issue understands a word he's saying, so that's cool too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then even there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he was on the far left and then,

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then Roddy was on the right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know that's led into the match, but I didn't know that she was there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Roddy's back to screaming ran towards the game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, fish.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So there were two points to this whole promo.

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[SPEAKER_00]: One was I think we're getting Kyle and Mark Brisco at the paper view.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't think they've announced yet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe they did.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think they did.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then two, they were telling the fans to chant, come up with all your Kyle chance that you can.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what the whole point of this match is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So got over so well last time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it didn't work this time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But we'll get to that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we got a sheet in Moxley as the opener.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the match, I mean, it's probably probably the best match on the show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was hard hitting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was exactly what you would have expected.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And although, one thing I didn't expect, she bled, I think he broke his nose from malaria, and it was, it was hard way, I think, regardless, I can't remember ever seeing as she e-bleed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure it must have happened at some point, but I don't think he's allowed to bleed.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's in his contract.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He can't bleed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There you go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's made of stone.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He is a stone pitiful.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you can't get blood from a stone.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Paul, well, he did here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And eventually, they just beat the shit out of each other for 15 minutes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Wrestling Observer Hall of Famer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Tell me how you feel.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Moxley is not, even though Moxley absolutely should be in the hole.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he, he had a German and a DDT and a rear naked choke and it was funny because the ref called for the bell and the the announcer sold it like she was out, but he clearly was not out, and he did not tap.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm not exactly sure why the ref's helped it, but

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[SPEAKER_00]: He did.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, that was that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Nobody complained.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's kind of my exception to the hawk rule.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can live with him, no selling a pile driver here and there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, because it it works for me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just want to see I just want to see if I do that rose by I want to see much like Pat him on his head.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, and by the way at the end when Moxy was walking out He did like a quick bow to a sheet and so quick the announcer never pointed it out most people probably missed it, but if you missed it go back and watch and you'll see it It was like a quick respect and then you walked away So um and I right on the announcer for not bringing it up because that's kind of against character from honestly

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right, uh, next we got, oh my god, uh, the box, the box and Tony con and I, so the box show up and Tony con's got this thing on his door and apparently it's some movie reference to some movie I've never seen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, and, uh,

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[SPEAKER_00]: their broke and they need a money match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I guess they were trying to get Tony to book them a match for money.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And she asked them about the Jurassic Express and Matt said they got tickets to watch their match up close.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Nick wants to know how he got the money and apparently they sold their rebocs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And again, they want a money match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know spoiler alert, Tony Khan, this wonderful

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, so he booked the two guys that he spent the last three months burying and not even giving piro to against the guy that tried to kill him and he's going to give the winners 500 grand.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What a great deal.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so we're, and so we're going to get another venue out of the box probably winning, taking the money, losing it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, that no jungle was no win.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We got probably second piece.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She should win what was on the door because I'm trying to remember it was just it was like Tony Khan, but it was like something about the background or something.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was from a movie.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know on legacy or something.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I can't remember.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now they want to do a Disney they want to do a Disney crossover on a Warner Brothers film.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so it wasn't that, but it was like I'm probably remembering wrong, but it was something was just weird.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought it was just a weird background for it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, maybe it was and someone was just assuming something that wasn't true that's possible.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Then we got probably second best thing on the show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This Chris that liner Tony Storm video package.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought it was great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was narrated by Renee.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She kind of went over their history and just about bunch of stats and like normally these stats I kind of tuned them up, but they're actually kind of cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like they've had the most matches of any two women, but you have to never face each other.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She mentioned the number of wins they've had and all the stuff and it was like really kind of cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then the very last line, I just thought they could have edited it out, because it was Miss, it was Tony just repeating, or is Renee repeating what Tony's lines about, like, strapping up your tits or something and it was just like, I mean, I can barely tell it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you don't want Renee doing those lines.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, she's supposed to be the straight, she's supposed to be a straight reporter.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you don't want her doing the goofy stuff, but 95% of this promo was awesome.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I wish we got more of these because they didn't really well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: On the on the dynamite we watched there's a pretty good video pack there's a couple of video packages on there that are really good too like there's the uh oh it's it's the deal need a introduction of the barbed wire Excluding death match thing and I need us talking about it you know to the audience and they made they do video package as well when they do them They just choose the wrong times to do them or they don't put them in the right place or they put them on social media or whatever

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[SPEAKER_00]: There was one on an early dynamite that I just watched.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was building up the Cody Jericho match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And my god, it was like a six minute promo.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was the best thing I ever saw, like not the best thing I ever saw.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But the best promo package I ever saw on Dynamite.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I just watched it not that long ago.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, it was, but they would never do it now because they're not going to spend six minutes of what they consider to be dead air, which is not dead air.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like promotion.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And if it's good,

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[SPEAKER_00]: and they're probably going to share it on social media and like the people in the live crowd won't respond to the live crowd are going to pop if you put it on this yes that's the problem is they agreed on the screen right uh gates of agony and hurts into kids street fight uh this was fine i mean it was it was every I was baffled by the end of this though

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So there was a sequence where Bobby Lashley got, he started, he made a run, he was going to put one of his opponents through outside the ring and there was a table set up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: outside the ring and he was about to hit him with a spear and then the other gate of agony guy through a chair nailed him in the head on his way right away to stop it and then immediately after that he gets Bobby gets put through a table and then 30 seconds later he goes through another table

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[SPEAKER_00]: So this is, um, this is like within at no more than 60 seconds.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He gets a flying chair to the head and gets put through two tables.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And, um, my watch just went off and I'm trying to avoid it, but I think I know what it was telling me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I guess foil if you'd like.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Don't, I don't want to know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but I think I do and mad.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but anyways, I lost my train of thought.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, okay, then let me go in.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, no.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So no, but my point is all that happened in a 60 second span and then two minutes later, Bobby lost you got the win.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, I got why, why is it hurt?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, why do you get a win because they have to get their win back, but if they're leaving, why do they need

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do we know if they're leaving?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Shout out to the wind.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Who got the wind?

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[SPEAKER_00]: The Hertz indicate?

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, which one?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Bobby?

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I think it was Shelton.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Every freaking through ricochet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But a hundred yards through the air, blind through a table.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then, so I think if anything, I think Shelton's staying in MVP and Bobby might be leaving.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Shout out to Ricochet for the knee pads of her jeans.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the only one to do that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was very appreciative of the old-schooled touch.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The problem with this matches, we have one of these matches every week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it felt like it didn't feel like there was any hate involved in this street fight.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It felt like we're doing a match with props.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I wouldn't say MVP felt like he hated ricochet, but other not other not yes yes, but I didn't feel like like the hurts and to get had a plan to take one of the guys out or even vice versa the geo or the demand or I buried the lead by the way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They came out Bobby and Shelton were dressed suits suits they took off their jackets But they were wearing they were wearing dresser and then I don't know if they liked that or not did I did you like that or did you hate?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what to think but it was different and it was kind of cool

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, that's the only thing I say, but Bob pointed at the one point he got.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I swear, Bobby got the shirt ripped off and he put it back on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not positive for that, but at the very least he wrestled most of the match with his shirt open.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and I think at the show, show, put the jacket on after the match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Bobby, I laughed at that little thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If he was just in fighting gear.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, um, but neither of these teams actually felt like, okay, our strategy is we're going to be using a chair.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to try and pull him and I is somebody's leg to take him out of the match or whatever it was just here's this set piece here's this set piece here's this set piece and I can see why a crowd would not be responding to because it's like, okay, we see a match like this every week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: the time it's in the women's division.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe 80% I mean yeah it's like it it takes a lot for me to not like a street fight because I love because those are my favorite types of matches but it's become so wrote and it's like okay candlesticks, chairs, here's we're setting up the two tables for somebody to go through.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we go away from it to try and fool you a bit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's all kind of patterned now and it didn't.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There was, it was emotionless.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that was my problem with it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I will say I think most impressive thing I saw in the whole match would lead to the finish.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that was great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was that freaking German that Shelton gave Richard.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like he was more than halfway across the ring and he just threw this dude across and Ricochet went completely blind into the table

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[SPEAKER_01]: He hit his head on that thing and you could see it was like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was also impressed with the with the Side well not sidewalk slam the The table was up high and you had to jump high to get through that and they at least Got that without killing anybody which was nice

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[SPEAKER_00]: Then we saw a promo with the Doncals family and it's funny because this picture made it's way around the internet And it was like Doncals with this whole family and the funny thing is it's like the whole screen was filled up with Cals family members And there's at least four guys that weren't here now the one thing I we have to point out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes

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[SPEAKER_00]: last week after the Kenny Omega match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, Andrade is your big reveal any a test, Kenny, and I'm not sure if they made the match for for the paper.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're not I don't think they did.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They did not.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, this week, don't count so well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, they count back there with this whole family.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No one draw day didn't mention on draw day, you know, he talked about just about everybody else, but he did not mention on draw day and yeah, so there was, and then I think Brian Cage was on social media complaining that he wasn't mentioned and Don Calls responded by quote tweeting him and calling him an idiot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not sure what was Mark Davis upset that he didn't get a mention.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know and Wardlow.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Trent Trent.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So there was at least four or five guys in the group that weren't there, but there was nine people in the shot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So the whole thing was sort of a later in the match when he came out because I got three of the best luchadors on my in my stable and I was trying to think I was like, is he counting Rocky?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he wasn't in the show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He was head to Sarah and

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I'm trying to not elucidate or well, the count of them as once because he said he never mentioned on Droughty in his promo.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm telling you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe I'm droughty's already done.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe he's on the list.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They don't do that any.

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[SPEAKER_01]: W the

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[SPEAKER_00]: don't run a good joke.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, so you ruined mine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm alive.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know I do it all the time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I do it all the time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I do it all the time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, so the point the promo was that he talked about Josh Alexander Koto bushy on collision for some God forsaken reason.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I assume that somehow is leading to maybe it's going to be Josh Alexander and

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[SPEAKER_00]: notice here for a week and that's how they're plugging it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I guess on collision which you know with this new rating system there might be negative viewers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um and Kylo Riley he said was a mark for Kyle Fletcher such a mark that he named himself after him even though I think Kyle might be old enough to be Kyle Fletcher's dad.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um not quite, but not far off.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh and they talked about heteroceros ripping

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[SPEAKER_00]: And, and yeah, and then he said that to catch dental caught are going to win the tag team titles.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that was that I do like how they I do like how they tied in the heteroceros bed detail thing to the cows family and trying to get the tag belts.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I really did like that touch.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just like the simplicity of the group promo.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I do, I love this, I love this, the whole stage picture of, of have, water's wet, Kona Boosey got hurt.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because they taped collision tonight, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, God.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're kidding.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Really?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Kona Boosey got injured again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Wow.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But, but I liked the group photo.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I liked, uh, I kind of wish, Ed Chasero had a suit.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Spam.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, and then you go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, the with what they call him the the alchemist.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, whatever, and he just goes, thank you for breaking a shoulder.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And just kind of gives a license.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I want more personality in the costumes of the of the cows family when they're doing the.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, Jesus.

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[SPEAKER_01]: See, now all my points are getting up stage by transferring heat and I love them to death, but it's like, okay, now I can't be joking because he has a broken fever because people on audio aren't seeing the update.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yes, go to Bouchy has a broken fever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I apologize for making light of the situation and Paul will put out a official press release later.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, maybe don't, don't wrestle once every six months and like all high octane when you do it and you won't break your flag next time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, sorry.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, that was, that was cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, you know, Tony has a star rating minimum that you have, you want to get booked again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, well, maybe now we're just going to get Kenny on try it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, it's probably going to end up being Kenny and Josh.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You need to do an injury angle for this thing is what you need to do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, it probably happened in the match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't matter.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Come out and have guys get back there and start and pretend to stop on the leg a bit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There you go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There you go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We got the Jurassic Express against cam and I think the other guy's name was Orion.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Doesn't matter.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was, it was basically a squash.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If anything, it may have went too long.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it was, the fans were throwing around beach balls and it was kind of distracting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they hit something called countdown to extinction.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Fans loved it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was weird because

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is the best match on the show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is this is really for me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is what pro wrestling and weekly pro wrestling should be.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It made that smug look that jungle boy through the camera on the one, two, three.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's the best thing he's ever done in the last three years in my opinion.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it just made them look like damn superstars.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's all you want.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You've not get the sense that Jack Perry in character.

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[SPEAKER_00]: is not into this dramatic express and he is he is going to freaking stab luchisaurus in the back of first chance he gets.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I don't.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I get the feeling that he's trying to project an adult or a is what I think is trying to do here because he said he wanted to take this in a darker direction.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think darker is the choice.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He doesn't want to be jungle boy anymore.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right, but then why are they using the music.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what I'm saying.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's I think it's a because it's a crowd, please, or yeah, but what's the word?

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not a swear, but a misdirection.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, I think they're I think like so maybe you're right like maybe he's not going to turn on the resource, but I don't think these guys are smiling happy baby faces is might no I think the tweeners.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they may be dark heels because they're they're bullying Kenny, but they're also going they also have a grudge against the young bucks so these guys might be the peacemaker.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If we're, if we're into these super hero things, he's a, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, he'll, they're, now we're doing, now we're doing John Cena piece maker, are we doing piece maker from the comics, I, I don't know the difference, I don't know the, I only know the John Cena one, I do, do you know watchman and all, I saw the TV series.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, never mind.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It will you have to see the movie.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I think the movie in his basically is what piecemakers, because it's all based on characters at DC, but maybe it's all the name is home lander.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, hold on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let me thank you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Who's it?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what it is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like when somebody graduates from the tea.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's night wing is what he is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's trying to get out of the shadow of being a team Titan and trying to be his own adventure type of thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think Jeremy Feinstein who is a Comic book expert.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he I think he said Darby might be night wing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I might be right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, he might be.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we can have to.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, actually.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I call them Spider-Man, but I didn't realize that was a different universe.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But then I said he's deadpool and not so much, he doesn't have the sarcasm, but he's like reckless like deadpool, you know, where he just doesn't care.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, right, because he can't die.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he'll do anything, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Actually, they don't can't die, think that's perfect.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hi, anyways, so after the match, the bucks came to ringside, took out Jack, gave luchesource a low blow, hit the BTE, Jack tried to save him, but they got super kicked.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then they laid out Jack, challenged him to a match at Russell Dream.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And later on, they announced that the match was happening, and it's for 500 grand.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So let's pause there for a moment.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: When did they turn baby face when Kenny when when they're during the whole.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, that was not a baby face shirt.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, they were teasing it though.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So they decided to work because they didn't save him when Josh Alexander was beating his ass right in front of them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but they decided that's it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They yeah, they were morally conflicted.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, they weren't though.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what they're trying to tell me they were.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't well, but then, but then, but then drop, but then don't get way to the right over there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Jungle boy came out there in a pack.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not saying they turned babies.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was, they were teasing, turning baby face.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought they were turning good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think they go walk this back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then they're going to remember it in three months.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then I'm going to hear this long term story.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, every time they do anything like this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm trying not to drop F-bomb, but I nearly did or the Adam Penny, but no, go ahead.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, you're sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We got a Death Riders promo on Orange Cassie.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The highlighted this was Pock, calling Orange Marvellade Bulls.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't hear a word after that because I was laughing so hard.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Wasn't it Tangerine Bulls?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it was.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was Tangerine Bulls.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I, I, I, I, I love.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what it is about pack it is promos, but they're so stupid, but I take them so seriously at the same time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's like it's like he eats.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He has such a great voice.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I start, yeah, imitating it as he's doing the promo too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He has a great voice.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's very deep.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a tangerine bulls.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Tangerine bulls.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was a tangerine bulls or tangerine testicles.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it was tangerine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, no, it was definitely bulls.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was definitely bulls.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so that was that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was, it was nothing much.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I get the whole point of this, too, is they had had a segment on collision where both guys promised that they were going to leave their friends in the back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and it was just going to be these two.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, not necessarily just these two, but no deathwriters and no conglomeration at ringside.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's key, by the way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the rest of this promo, though.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was expecting someone to tell Danny Garcia to shut up when he was being all big about things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought he was going to be the young boy who kind of takes over for that year

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, it's not because you thought he was there to replace you to as the young boy whipping boy guy who's supposed to sit at the learning tree of these other dudes, but they're to push you to up of notch.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You does not, you does personality stinks still.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sorry, but he tries to cut promos and you don't take him seriously.

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[SPEAKER_01]: because he's got a third one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, Garcia is out there going.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we did this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we did that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I thought Claudio and Moxley were just walking off because it's like, dude, you're not getting it or whatever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I don't think it was that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think they just walked off during the promo.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Did you watch Collision?

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[SPEAKER_00]: No.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So on Collision, he had a face to face with

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[SPEAKER_00]: What I'm other around you, we were losers, but now I'm hanging around these guys and because they're winners, that makes me a winner.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, transit property of wedding, I'm here for it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is like what I was saying about Kylo Riley earlier.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, yeah, so yeah, this was this, it was fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Then we got Kyle, Kyle Fletcher and Kyla Riley and as I talked about earlier, they did this match, you know, a couple months ago, I think it was in like Portland or Seattle or something.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, in the fans had fun with it and they just chanted like crazy Kyle this Kyle at and

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, this time it's like the fans you'd get the memo at the start.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They Twitter did because they put up one of the Twitter things and it's like I just hope Kyle has fun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And no, it's Kyle loses.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We riot and I was expecting Ronnie to turn here because he didn't do that hands in thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought he was actually joining the cow.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, see that's another.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that's that might be the one that I was talking about earlier, but guys that aren't really getting along because they've been teasing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Roddy and Kyle for a while.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but yeah, so they they at the very beginning of the match, you could hear the crowd making noise, and if you really listen closely and I should have put my headphones on and listen to it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It sounded like there there was like three different groups that were all trying to get different Kyle chance going at the same were and they all drowned each other out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it never caught on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and then they just three groups of people trying to get over themselves and then they all ended up bearing each other let's go kio kio kio let's go kio kio kio kio kio kio kio kio kio kio kio kio kio kio kio kio kio kio kio kio kio kio kio kio kio kio kio kio kio kio kio kio kio kio kio kio kio kio kio kio kio kio kio kio kio kio kio kio kio kio kio kio kio kio kio kio kio kio kio kio kio kio kio kio kio kio kio kio kio kio kio kio kio kio kio kio kio kio kio kio kio kio kio kio kio kio kio kio kio kio kio kio kio k

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[SPEAKER_00]: sold way too much because nobody on earth believed that how O'Reilly had any chance of winning this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I mean, they had a good match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't as good as the match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They had a couple months ago.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then eventually, you know, I think O'Reilly had him in an ankle lock.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Then he hit Adam cool's boom.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So they are kind of teasing Adam Cole.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if maybe he's recovering better than we thought it might be coming back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But he put the ankle lock on Fletcher and then Fletcher escaped hit a brainbuster.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Then he hit a kick in the corner, a second brainbuster, and got the pin pretty decisive win by the end.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But you know, a little too much back and forth from my liking in a match like this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I agree.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, and I think, and then after the match, Lance Archer hit the rain, and the lighting ratio made the save, we ended up with Mark and Kyle Fletcher.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They almost bumped into each other and they kind of stared off and then Fletcher backed off.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And, uh,

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[SPEAKER_00]: The one thing here was, I think they needed to remind people that Mark Briscoe has beaten this guy a couple times.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that would be a lot of houses.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's the story, especially because after Kyle went after the world title and lost, he should be nervous that he can't beat Mark Briscoe and he won't be able to get back up the mountain again.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He has doubt.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I mean, that's the story they should be telling and they didn't.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like he beat him in the continental classic last year, which it should have cost Kyle a spot in the place, but it actually didn't.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It cost him an undefeated record, which would have been, you know, would have been a good selling point if he actually cost him a spot in the finals.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But and then yeah, and the only I was after here that Renee told Kyle Fletcher that he's facing

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, next.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So they had advertised last week Mercedes against a local Florida talent and we had all kind of speculation.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, Shayna Basler Dakota, is he?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is he Marano?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'd even, you know, Britt Baker actually moved from Pittsburgh to Florida when during that whole Adam Cole breakup thing.

01:00:04.996 --> 01:00:11.280
[SPEAKER_00]: And and had all these possibilities, you know, the fantasy booking was so much better than what we got.

01:00:12.097 --> 01:00:14.741
[SPEAKER_00]: What we got was Lacey Lane.

01:00:15.662 --> 01:00:23.433
[SPEAKER_00]: And for those of you that don't know who Lacey Lane is, well, she debuted on our awaits about a month ago and lost to me to share Kawa.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, which they actually told us in this thing, which they shouldn't have because nobody saw that match and this would have been better if this would have been her debut and as someone who is one of the 49 people that actually watched that match, I will tell you that Lacy Lane looked to help a lot better against me to share a call within she looked here against Mercedes money.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, a, somehow, Lacy Lane sounds more like an NXT name than the name that she had in NXT.

01:00:50.387 --> 01:00:52.168
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, and Carter.

01:00:52.388 --> 01:00:57.271
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like Lacy Lane, JC Jane, like maybe she should have picked a different name.

01:00:57.851 --> 01:00:59.953
[SPEAKER_00]: Like I know that's the name she had before.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She joined WWE, but maybe change it.

01:01:03.475 --> 01:01:05.596
[SPEAKER_01]: Let me, let me get two things out of the way here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Number one, a belt collector gimmick does not work.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you are the midcard title holder.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sorry, it just doesn't because he's getting her 10th belt in a couple of days here in Winnipeg.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's fine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Did you do that?

01:01:19.986 --> 01:01:20.566
[SPEAKER_01]: Did you do that?

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[SPEAKER_01]: None of these other belts matter.

01:01:22.887 --> 01:01:23.808
[SPEAKER_01]: They don't face them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Jody threat for the Winnipeg Pro Wrestling title.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I can't wait for her to show up as 10 belts one day with the Winnipeg Pro Wrestling title being the 10th.

01:01:34.453 --> 01:01:35.814
[SPEAKER_01]: Nate needs that Alvarez.

01:01:35.874 --> 01:01:37.154
[SPEAKER_01]: Ticks are a can at title.

01:01:37.375 --> 01:01:38.275
[SPEAKER_00]: Is what she needs.

01:01:38.575 --> 01:01:42.457
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that might have more credibility than the Winnipeg Pro Wrestling title.

01:01:43.578 --> 01:01:45.359
[SPEAKER_00]: And this is coming from someone in Winnipeg.

01:01:49.303 --> 01:01:55.367
[SPEAKER_01]: If this was the first choice, because I could see, I could see Mercedes wanting it.

01:01:55.387 --> 01:01:58.289
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't want to quote unquote, give her a rub.

01:01:58.309 --> 01:02:02.591
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think she's, I think she's a Mercedes girl.

01:02:02.731 --> 01:02:04.392
[SPEAKER_01]: Don't don't don't don't put me on that.

01:02:04.612 --> 01:02:11.977
[SPEAKER_01]: But unless this is, I'm going to beat a bunch of people who left or land out.

01:02:13.222 --> 01:02:14.443
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to get into something.

01:02:15.184 --> 01:02:15.444
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:02:15.684 --> 01:02:16.905
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't understand the point of this.

01:02:17.465 --> 01:02:17.906
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't.

01:02:18.466 --> 01:02:29.194
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's what I put in the chat when I was referencing, you know, if this is to introduce Shayna or Dakota who you've signed, who should get the win in their first weekend.

01:02:29.254 --> 01:02:30.796
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's interesting that you were staying there.

01:02:30.836 --> 01:02:31.036
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:02:31.356 --> 01:02:42.707
[SPEAKER_01]: No, what I was saying is, if this is, oh, we're going to give you another person from Florida, oh, I could beat anybody from Florida, bring them on, blah, and then it's Dakota Kai and Dakota Kai beats her for the TNT title first.

01:02:43.028 --> 01:02:48.073
[SPEAKER_01]: Go to TV it or whatever, TBS title first match out, then yes, or Shayna Bayesler.

01:02:48.493 --> 01:02:49.834
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, that's how you do that.

01:02:50.475 --> 01:02:58.698
[SPEAKER_01]: But this I don't get and I thought I actually thought the Izzy idea was inspired because triple because he's not yet quite yet 18.

01:02:58.798 --> 01:03:04.540
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if he just turned 17 just turned 18 or that would be stupid for Izzy to take that match.

01:03:05.356 --> 01:03:05.556
[SPEAKER_00]: Why?

01:03:05.996 --> 01:03:08.957
[SPEAKER_00]: Because she wants to go to WWE and they hold it right there.

01:03:09.197 --> 01:03:11.857
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, maybe maybe maybe that was the plan.

01:03:11.897 --> 01:03:12.578
[SPEAKER_00]: She turned it down.

01:03:12.658 --> 01:03:17.059
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I'm thinking that too because it's like, because everybody's well, they're waiting for 21.

01:03:17.199 --> 01:03:21.280
[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no, no, they signed a the a hail at 18.

01:03:21.340 --> 01:03:21.760
[SPEAKER_01]: I believe.

01:03:22.280 --> 01:03:23.680
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they would know it.

01:03:23.800 --> 01:03:24.120
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it was 18.

01:03:24.200 --> 01:03:25.741
[SPEAKER_00]: It was right on high school.

01:03:26.341 --> 01:03:28.641
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, the fact that she had done dark.

01:03:29.181 --> 01:03:30.602
[SPEAKER_01]: And then they signed her over to NXT.

01:03:32.207 --> 01:03:37.451
[SPEAKER_00]: So so the match itself was not great, um, Lacey took most of the match.

01:03:37.571 --> 01:03:37.751
[SPEAKER_00]: It was.

01:03:37.811 --> 01:03:38.171
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

01:03:38.231 --> 01:03:39.272
[SPEAKER_00]: Loppy at time.

01:03:39.312 --> 01:03:40.032
[SPEAKER_01]: Nobody cared.

01:03:40.393 --> 01:03:43.095
[SPEAKER_00]: Nobody cared because that's nobody thought they were going to win.

01:03:43.115 --> 01:03:45.616
[SPEAKER_00]: Not only, I don't think anybody knew who she was.

01:03:45.636 --> 01:03:49.079
[SPEAKER_00]: That too, because she can do the dance that she didn't have.

01:03:50.688 --> 01:03:52.009
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, Casey Cadden's are with her.

01:03:52.429 --> 01:03:55.731
[SPEAKER_00]: No, and the fact is, they didn't really do much on the main roster.

01:03:55.771 --> 01:03:58.833
[SPEAKER_00]: So even in WWE, the, you know, she never got a reaction.

01:03:59.273 --> 01:04:11.100
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it appears where Dave's going to failure because if you listen to Wrestling Observer radio, like, and she's from WWE and didn't get a pop, it's like, well, people didn't really get to see her all that much on the main roster when they got moved up.

01:04:11.160 --> 01:04:13.201
[SPEAKER_01]: They were there to, like, die a death.

01:04:13.262 --> 01:04:13.762
[SPEAKER_01]: They were like,

01:04:14.591 --> 01:04:15.511
[SPEAKER_00]: Fernando liked her.

01:04:15.651 --> 01:04:16.412
[SPEAKER_01]: He wants to see more.

01:04:16.492 --> 01:04:20.793
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I will say, like, she's perfectly fine as a wrestler.

01:04:21.353 --> 01:04:22.493
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, she's good.

01:04:22.513 --> 01:04:32.176
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's, it wasn't her best night here, but no, it's kind of that spot that she kind of lives in that space where red velvet would live if red velvet were back.

01:04:32.236 --> 01:04:34.117
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you got one other thing.

01:04:34.317 --> 01:04:35.697
[SPEAKER_00]: She's older than you think.

01:04:35.877 --> 01:04:37.798
[SPEAKER_00]: She's like, yeah, she's seven or something.

01:04:37.818 --> 01:04:42.699
[SPEAKER_01]: She's been doing this a long time because she was, she had a rather lengthy indie run and she didn't get into this.

01:04:44.560 --> 01:04:50.970
[SPEAKER_00]: I think she's maybe a team 3D has I think that's possible too.

01:04:51.010 --> 01:04:57.499
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, she was like I think she was a basketball player like D2 or D3 before sort of short for basketball player.

01:04:57.639 --> 01:04:58.140
[SPEAKER_01]: She was a guard.

01:04:59.642 --> 01:05:16.173
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but yeah, so, uh, and you eventually, uh, Mercedes hit, uh, her, whatever that move is money maker, and I got in and it was bad that it usually goes back to the, well, no, that's what looked good because Lacy's small and she knew how to get in position and take it.

01:05:16.193 --> 01:05:19.375
[SPEAKER_01]: It's still, it's still a bad, no, they're not going to reunite.

01:05:19.415 --> 01:05:21.416
[SPEAKER_01]: Casey, can Zara's back doing commentary.

01:05:21.496 --> 01:05:25.539
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I know Casey's, I don't think Casey is any interest in, uh,

01:05:25.839 --> 01:05:30.502
[SPEAKER_01]: No, they wasted her at her mainstream appeal.

01:05:30.882 --> 01:05:38.206
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, I will say when I saw my reaction when I saw her wrestle Mina on our way, it was they should sign her.

01:05:39.147 --> 01:05:49.873
[SPEAKER_00]: So maybe they did based on that and maybe she'll go back and if they want to add her into this mix of people that wrestle and these hardcore matches on collision and stuff, hey, that'd be great.

01:05:50.913 --> 01:05:55.097
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, you know, and I hope she gets signed because she's she's a good wrestler.

01:05:55.337 --> 01:06:00.401
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, she's not great, but she's good and she's good for like a stable though.

01:06:00.601 --> 01:06:00.941
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:06:01.001 --> 01:06:01.521
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:06:01.562 --> 01:06:01.822
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:06:02.422 --> 01:06:06.645
[SPEAKER_00]: Or tag team, you know, like if you, if you, you know, obviously she's an experienced tag team.

01:06:06.686 --> 01:06:12.290
[SPEAKER_01]: I think actually, yeah, no, I mean, if you could find a tag team partner where they could actually do tag team moves like.

01:06:13.563 --> 01:06:27.010
[SPEAKER_01]: You could do the the small the quick power team with like an album and not a but I don't think I'd team with them and not I'm not as is a lot bigger than she's I think I might even put her in that in that Tecla stable.

01:06:27.370 --> 01:06:29.031
[SPEAKER_01]: I think she could I like that.

01:06:29.411 --> 01:06:29.971
[SPEAKER_00]: I like that.

01:06:30.651 --> 01:06:31.852
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh freaking tecla.

01:06:31.912 --> 01:06:39.836
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if it's here on collision She did a freaking amazing promo like and and I remember hearing this really good

01:06:40.436 --> 01:06:56.302
[SPEAKER_00]: And and the promo was awesome and I remember like when going into that four way at the paper view like one of the things was was she wouldn't be strong enough on the mic to be the world champion and I heard this problem and I was like, are you kidding me like, yeah, she's good oh she's really good they've they've got something there.

01:06:57.242 --> 01:07:06.575
[SPEAKER_00]: Speaking of promos, we got Sammy Guevara and it was like a back-to-back promo with Sammy and Mortos with the sunglasses over the past.

01:07:06.835 --> 01:07:10.540
[SPEAKER_00]: And he took the sunglasses off, and the promos.

01:07:10.680 --> 01:07:12.323
[SPEAKER_01]: And I loved every moment of this.

01:07:12.883 --> 01:07:14.264
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, well, that's that's good.

01:07:14.905 --> 01:07:19.288
[SPEAKER_00]: And Sammy is everyone's favorite killer is the best gimmick.

01:07:19.488 --> 01:07:21.890
[SPEAKER_00]: Like he is such an annoying twat.

01:07:22.050 --> 01:07:24.112
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, this is this is wheelhouse.

01:07:24.152 --> 01:07:28.135
[SPEAKER_01]: I've been saying this for years is being the annoying cocky young guy.

01:07:28.155 --> 01:07:29.836
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, his wheelhouse.

01:07:29.997 --> 01:07:33.439
[SPEAKER_01]: And I just kind of need more to be more of a lawyer.

01:07:33.639 --> 01:07:36.682
[SPEAKER_01]: If he wants to be a Florida lawyer with the with the with the

01:07:40.905 --> 01:07:41.525
[SPEAKER_01]: with the mask.

01:07:41.565 --> 01:07:42.645
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, here for this.

01:07:43.025 --> 01:07:46.326
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and then yeah, Sam, Sam, you should be again.

01:07:46.766 --> 01:07:50.607
[SPEAKER_01]: If you guys haven't seen it go watch the color money with Paul Newman and Tom Cruz.

01:07:50.867 --> 01:07:54.208
[SPEAKER_01]: He is the Tom Cruz character and he should be at all times.

01:07:54.448 --> 01:07:56.388
[SPEAKER_00]: Did you know I just watched that movie a couple days ago?

01:07:56.808 --> 01:07:57.648
[SPEAKER_00]: Actually, I did not.

01:07:57.908 --> 01:07:59.189
[SPEAKER_00]: I did not.

01:07:59.249 --> 01:08:01.529
[SPEAKER_00]: I saw years ago, like, but I watched it yesterday.

01:08:01.929 --> 01:08:03.790
[SPEAKER_01]: And by my pitch was he has the black shirt.

01:08:03.830 --> 01:08:04.690
[SPEAKER_01]: That's everything.

01:08:04.810 --> 01:08:05.710
[SPEAKER_00]: He looks at them.

01:08:06.250 --> 01:08:10.313
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, yeah, like because Tom Cruise and that thing you had the hair.

01:08:10.334 --> 01:08:11.615
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the public were.

01:08:11.995 --> 01:08:16.018
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and he did a little while and she did a video to wear rolls of London, too.

01:08:16.058 --> 01:08:18.020
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, his hair was perfect.

01:08:18.060 --> 01:08:18.500
[SPEAKER_01]: Perfect.

01:08:18.841 --> 01:08:24.525
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and Thai County can be his, uh, uh, uh, Mary Elizabeth, let's just master Antonio.

01:08:24.725 --> 01:08:24.986
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:08:25.026 --> 01:08:27.248
[SPEAKER_01]: Who has never been hotter than in that movie.

01:08:27.308 --> 01:08:29.850
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, Scarface, Scarface, Scarface.

01:08:30.370 --> 01:08:33.551
[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no, she had that permanent scarf face.

01:08:33.652 --> 01:08:36.473
[SPEAKER_01]: I like her in this and I like, I'm a big fan of Mary Elizabeth.

01:08:36.613 --> 01:08:40.555
[SPEAKER_01]: She's really, I like her in the business suit and class action with Jean Hattman.

01:08:40.835 --> 01:08:43.456
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:08:43.476 --> 01:08:48.618
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, so he did the promo challenge, Eddie, to fight mortals and Eddie was with Hook and he accepted.

01:08:48.718 --> 01:08:54.781
[SPEAKER_00]: And this appears to be leading to either a tag match or what I actually think it's going to be a Sammy and Eddie in a singles match.

01:08:55.741 --> 01:08:58.163
[SPEAKER_01]: Roosh wants to grow LFI going to headlines.

01:08:58.223 --> 01:08:59.303
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, who do you got?

01:08:59.744 --> 01:09:01.585
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I think they thought it was going to be on Drawing.

01:09:02.085 --> 01:09:04.347
[SPEAKER_00]: Or I mean, Santos Santos Santos Santos.

01:09:04.367 --> 01:09:10.291
[SPEAKER_00]: Santos, that's goodbye, by the way, resigned with WWE after almost two days as a free agent.

01:09:10.311 --> 01:09:20.658
[SPEAKER_01]: And got and got a nice hefty pay raise because I believe he pitched, hey, I can be the guy in AAA who does English promo over on your show to pitch paper views.

01:09:21.458 --> 01:09:22.499
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that's how it went.

01:09:23.160 --> 01:09:23.580
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

01:09:23.620 --> 01:09:24.821
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, yeah, well, good for him.

01:09:25.101 --> 01:09:25.462
[SPEAKER_00]: Good for him.

01:09:25.502 --> 01:09:25.862
[SPEAKER_00]: Get paid.

01:09:25.882 --> 01:09:27.383
[SPEAKER_00]: Get paid.

01:09:27.984 --> 01:09:29.706
[SPEAKER_00]: Brodito and O'Conan to catch that.

01:09:29.746 --> 01:09:35.471
[SPEAKER_00]: We talked about this match earlier, you know, the story was Bendito heard his shoulder.

01:09:35.491 --> 01:09:43.778
[SPEAKER_00]: And he, I think actually, they're a really good job of wrestling with one arm, probably because he was really only had one arm to wrestle with.

01:09:44.999 --> 01:09:47.722
[SPEAKER_01]: And there are times where he was doing the Al-Servic, though.

01:09:48.755 --> 01:09:49.535
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my arm.

01:09:49.976 --> 01:10:05.542
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, but yeah, but he was doing these power moves, but only with one arm and yeah, doing like it was so subtle is why I thought it was actually real, but I did that or he's just great and I mean he is great.

01:10:05.682 --> 01:10:08.303
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, the end was really good where he was trying to do the 21.

01:10:18.260 --> 01:10:29.089
[SPEAKER_00]: Akata was supposed to steal the tag, but he didn't do it, and then basically to catch the hat to wait for him to do it, and then get pissed off that he did it, they kind of boxed it a little bit.

01:10:29.450 --> 01:10:44.403
[SPEAKER_00]: But Akata to catch the stole the pin and and and Akata hit the rainmaker and got the win and yeah, it was, I mean, it was not nearly as good as what people are hoping for, but I still thought it was a really good match.

01:10:45.323 --> 01:10:54.711
[SPEAKER_00]: And then I guess the by terms of the steps of the match because of cotton to catch the one, they now get a tag team title match and they announced that it was going to be a Russell dream.

01:10:55.171 --> 01:10:59.695
[SPEAKER_01]: So they should have wrestled this thing as a unit with ever without ever having an issue.

01:11:00.856 --> 01:11:01.717
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, cotton to catch me mean.

01:11:02.331 --> 01:11:03.671
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, absolutely.

01:11:03.991 --> 01:11:11.773
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, we had the promo earlier in the show with the dog cows family and he talked about arena Mexico in that promo.

01:11:12.393 --> 01:11:14.674
[SPEAKER_00]: We had this match which went about 15 minutes.

01:11:16.254 --> 01:11:22.575
[SPEAKER_00]: Neither in that promo or during this match did they once mention that Knowskitt's

01:11:30.816 --> 01:11:32.697
[SPEAKER_01]: I think they're saving that for the turn.

01:11:32.717 --> 01:11:35.899
[SPEAKER_00]: I think he's writing the title on Monday.

01:11:35.939 --> 01:11:36.499
[SPEAKER_01]: I do too.

01:11:36.699 --> 01:11:40.241
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think he's coming back in and he's going, well, no thanks to you guys.

01:11:40.281 --> 01:11:42.122
[SPEAKER_01]: You never even plugged my match or whatever.

01:11:42.582 --> 01:11:43.943
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, they didn't mention it.

01:11:44.503 --> 01:11:52.187
[SPEAKER_00]: And the fact is, I guarantee you that if that match, if one of them had a big match on Friday at Arena Mexico, they would have plugged it.

01:11:53.861 --> 01:11:55.963
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, let's even get to earlier in the show.

01:11:55.983 --> 01:11:59.586
[SPEAKER_01]: They had to my early she on this show from New Japan.

01:11:59.626 --> 01:12:00.967
[SPEAKER_01]: And they're not plugging their part.

01:12:01.287 --> 01:12:03.769
[SPEAKER_01]: If I'm New Japan, you say we're the belt.

01:12:04.630 --> 01:12:06.191
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm tired of this partnership.

01:12:06.251 --> 01:12:08.173
[SPEAKER_00]: Because they never did anything to say it.

01:12:08.213 --> 01:12:09.154
[SPEAKER_00]: This is what I'm saying.

01:12:09.174 --> 01:12:17.120
[SPEAKER_01]: Because they never even, I think it took them like, I think you guys complain about WWE partnerships burying the people that they're partners with.

01:12:17.160 --> 01:12:18.882
[SPEAKER_01]: They at least give something to them.

01:12:20.800 --> 01:12:25.081
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I just like I said, I think CMLL is Tony's new shiny new toy now.

01:12:25.621 --> 01:12:30.563
[SPEAKER_00]: And so he does promote the MLL, but he's not really promoting New Japan.

01:12:32.243 --> 01:12:33.564
[SPEAKER_00]: Gave kid, I think he's still dead.

01:12:34.544 --> 01:12:35.164
[SPEAKER_00]: Derby killed him.

01:12:36.084 --> 01:12:37.685
[SPEAKER_00]: No, he's wrestling on Monday too.

01:12:37.785 --> 01:12:39.385
[SPEAKER_00]: No, I'm like that's a new Japan.

01:12:39.506 --> 01:12:40.466
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm talking to you.

01:12:40.566 --> 01:12:41.006
[SPEAKER_00]: He's dead.

01:12:42.719 --> 01:12:58.290
[SPEAKER_01]: Darby put him on put him on a back of a chain and took off in a truck with one of that was That was earth to give kid who only just in 1943 during World War Two All right, or no, that's earth.

01:12:58.610 --> 01:12:59.270
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's earth two.

01:12:59.450 --> 01:13:01.552
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, earth three would be good game kid.

01:13:02.793 --> 01:13:03.073
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay

01:13:04.120 --> 01:13:10.583
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, I'm gonna deepen the DCU, uh, things, so go ahead.

01:13:11.263 --> 01:13:13.004
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, next we got jet speed and willow.

01:13:13.044 --> 01:13:19.827
[SPEAKER_00]: They had a wacky promo and, uh, they were building up a match on collision with FTR Megan Bane, who we heard from next.

01:13:20.807 --> 01:13:25.169
[SPEAKER_01]: The way I'm just happy that Speedball Bailey found a cure to his muteness.

01:13:26.150 --> 01:13:28.971
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he's such a geek, but I think it's endearing.

01:13:29.651 --> 01:13:30.932
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, the, the FTR

01:13:34.169 --> 01:13:38.391
[SPEAKER_00]: Megan Bane is a man hours over everyone else in this problem.

01:13:38.911 --> 01:13:41.472
[SPEAKER_00]: But not only does she tower over everyone else is promo.

01:13:41.512 --> 01:13:48.015
[SPEAKER_00]: She's got a massive head dress that goes darker than she's darker than everybody in this promo too.

01:13:48.055 --> 01:13:49.236
[SPEAKER_01]: You're just looking at my

01:13:49.676 --> 01:13:57.422
[SPEAKER_00]: God, but even Penelope is taller than FTR, and it would have to be worse than their shoes.

01:13:57.462 --> 01:14:00.084
[SPEAKER_01]: They had to be the rib of some kind.

01:14:00.204 --> 01:14:02.566
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but it was, yeah, they promoted the match.

01:14:02.666 --> 01:14:16.176
[SPEAKER_00]: Willow apparently stokely thinks she's the worst person on earth, and they, they're doing a mixed tag, and yeah, so it's going to be FTR and Megan Bane against, uh, against, uh, what is it?

01:14:16.536 --> 01:14:17.337
[SPEAKER_00]: Willow and Jetsby.

01:14:18.097 --> 01:14:19.338
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's on collision.

01:14:19.518 --> 01:14:22.821
[SPEAKER_01]: Megan Bane looks about six foot nine in this album.

01:14:23.002 --> 01:14:24.823
[SPEAKER_01]: And you're just like, God.

01:14:26.205 --> 01:14:31.489
[SPEAKER_00]: And oh, and they, they tried to do the top guys outline and, and she squeezed the hand.

01:14:31.870 --> 01:14:32.911
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, she stopped them.

01:14:32.931 --> 01:14:35.133
[SPEAKER_00]: And then they, she said top gods out.

01:14:36.768 --> 01:14:38.729
[SPEAKER_00]: That I'm here for this at doesn't work.

01:14:38.789 --> 01:14:40.570
[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, but we're trying things.

01:14:40.610 --> 01:14:40.850
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm good.

01:14:40.890 --> 01:14:41.170
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:14:41.310 --> 01:14:41.530
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:14:41.950 --> 01:14:42.151
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:14:42.191 --> 01:14:44.752
[SPEAKER_00]: I think she's I'll make excuses for making.

01:14:44.992 --> 01:14:57.178
[SPEAKER_01]: I do like her addition to this stable, although I I feel like this is like a one off, but I I should be a one off because because because the gimmick of her in Penelope doesn't match stoically at all, and that's a problem.

01:14:57.718 --> 01:15:02.240
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but but the girl with like this is like their baby doll, right.

01:15:03.711 --> 01:15:04.732
[SPEAKER_01]: It could be if they would.

01:15:04.752 --> 01:15:04.932
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:15:05.732 --> 01:15:05.972
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:15:06.253 --> 01:15:09.114
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because it didn't maybe dull tower over everyone, too.

01:15:09.575 --> 01:15:09.895
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

01:15:10.315 --> 01:15:10.735
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:15:11.015 --> 01:15:12.056
[SPEAKER_00]: That's before my time.

01:15:12.096 --> 01:15:13.877
[SPEAKER_01]: But it was on a change day, Dylan.

01:15:13.937 --> 01:15:20.421
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, when you're looking at him next to Tully, too, that's like I would pop so hard if like next week.

01:15:21.462 --> 01:15:22.762
[SPEAKER_00]: Dax was up with an envelope.

01:15:26.263 --> 01:15:28.429
[SPEAKER_00]: Plain ticket to Hawaii possibly.

01:15:28.489 --> 01:15:28.951
[SPEAKER_00]: What's this?

01:15:30.254 --> 01:15:32.781
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like a new tattoo of playing ticket to Hawaii.

01:15:32.821 --> 01:15:33.503
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, what?

01:15:35.558 --> 01:15:36.639
[SPEAKER_00]: Ah, so yeah, the match is on.

01:15:37.380 --> 01:15:45.166
[SPEAKER_00]: Then we got recent bro Dito and Bandito cut this promo in English where he just felt so bad for the guy.

01:15:45.446 --> 01:15:47.508
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a kind of strike, but I couldn't do it.

01:15:47.988 --> 01:15:51.712
[SPEAKER_00]: And then Brody was just gave him a pep talk and said, never stop fighting.

01:15:52.072 --> 01:15:54.053
[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to we're going to never going to stop fighting.

01:15:54.734 --> 01:15:56.836
[SPEAKER_00]: And we're going to leave Russell Dream with those titles.

01:15:57.056 --> 01:15:59.498
[SPEAKER_00]: And I every second

01:16:03.521 --> 01:16:18.748
[SPEAKER_01]: Look, here's what they need really is to set up the three corner science fair experiment type backdrop that they had in the territories and just let Brody King cut a 60 to 90 second promo every week.

01:16:19.668 --> 01:16:28.132
[SPEAKER_01]: He's a guy that just needs some reps on the promo thing get to the point, do a money promo, and he'll get far more over.

01:16:28.272 --> 01:16:29.652
[SPEAKER_01]: Look, he's over as a worker.

01:16:29.772 --> 01:16:30.393
[SPEAKER_01]: I get that

01:16:31.188 --> 01:16:35.594
[SPEAKER_01]: But he hasn't had a personality beat in five years in this company.

01:16:36.669 --> 01:16:43.051
[SPEAKER_01]: And he needs it and he's not going to get with little skips with with with then let him do the talking for the team.

01:16:43.131 --> 01:16:49.272
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm cut a promo about who about Ocada and to cash to 60 to 90 seconds.

01:16:49.573 --> 01:16:59.315
[SPEAKER_01]: Do it as a pre-tap so that you're not doing it live and he screws up, you know, give him a chance to screw up a little bit and get this guy over because he could be over.

01:16:59.335 --> 01:17:01.396
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he could be far more over than he is.

01:17:01.436 --> 01:17:02.156
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's put that way.

01:17:02.356 --> 01:17:03.556
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not going to say he's not over.

01:17:03.576 --> 01:17:05.297
[SPEAKER_00]: If I do a little bit of fantasy book in here.

01:17:06.740 --> 01:17:09.724
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, pay per view, the data match.

01:17:10.565 --> 01:17:17.173
[SPEAKER_00]: Bandito wrestlers is hard out, you know, they have a banner, you know, like maybe like we're expecting this last week's match to be, but eventually.

01:17:18.211 --> 01:17:24.496
[SPEAKER_00]: Bandito Schulder gives out on him and he gets pinned and Kesta and Alcada win the tag team titles.

01:17:25.417 --> 01:17:31.262
[SPEAKER_00]: And then they leave, they got the belts for details in the rain, Brody picks him up, he's consoling him.

01:17:32.263 --> 01:17:34.485
[SPEAKER_00]: And they have to fucking murder him.

01:17:35.125 --> 01:17:36.847
[SPEAKER_00]: Rips his shoulder out of the socket.

01:17:37.587 --> 01:17:42.709
[SPEAKER_00]: And then on Dynamite, he says, like, I got saddled with this guy.

01:17:42.849 --> 01:17:48.092
[SPEAKER_00]: I carried on where the tagging champions, I dumped him, hang that page.

01:17:49.212 --> 01:17:49.753
[SPEAKER_00]: I want you.

01:17:50.913 --> 01:17:55.935
[SPEAKER_00]: And, and then there's a feud, like, and I, I would be up for that.

01:17:57.036 --> 01:17:57.616
[SPEAKER_01]: Look at me.

01:17:57.816 --> 01:18:01.518
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, no, what he should do and should address previous things, like, look at me.

01:18:06.707 --> 01:18:08.568
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to kill you next hangman.

01:18:09.128 --> 01:18:09.348
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:18:09.528 --> 01:18:12.110
[SPEAKER_00]: And don't give me your expositions.

01:18:12.150 --> 01:18:12.790
[SPEAKER_00]: Don't give me this.

01:18:12.830 --> 01:18:13.450
[SPEAKER_00]: Don't give me that.

01:18:13.591 --> 01:18:14.371
[SPEAKER_00]: I want to fight.

01:18:15.331 --> 01:18:15.992
[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah.

01:18:16.212 --> 01:18:17.412
[SPEAKER_01]: Don't give me your compliments.

01:18:17.452 --> 01:18:17.933
[SPEAKER_01]: Hangman.

01:18:18.333 --> 01:18:18.553
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:18:18.853 --> 01:18:19.053
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:18:19.373 --> 01:18:19.574
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:18:19.594 --> 01:18:19.914
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:18:20.054 --> 01:18:23.576
[SPEAKER_00]: And you can get over as a kill.

01:18:23.616 --> 01:18:23.816
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:18:25.096 --> 01:18:25.316
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:18:25.657 --> 01:18:27.057
[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't think it's going to happen.

01:18:27.097 --> 01:18:28.058
[SPEAKER_00]: But that's my fantasy book.

01:18:28.969 --> 01:18:46.385
[SPEAKER_00]: Then we got the main event, which actually surprised me that this was the main event, you know, like, look there at the whole lineup, like, I don't this might have been like my fourth choice, like I thought maybe the maybe the brodino match, maybe the TNT title match, maybe Moxie or Shee, but no, it was orange casting back.

01:18:46.685 --> 01:18:51.129
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, by the way, uh, for the stopwatch people.

01:18:52.091 --> 01:19:05.537
[SPEAKER_00]: We had one Mercedes match against Caden Carter, that was your only women's match on the show and it wasn't until 90 minutes in and it was it was not very long and the night before on raw.

01:19:07.097 --> 01:19:11.359
[SPEAKER_00]: We were two hours into the show before a man entered the ring for a match.

01:19:13.340 --> 01:19:14.881
[SPEAKER_01]: So you notice where themselves.

01:19:15.061 --> 01:19:17.622
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the stop people count WWE here.

01:19:17.682 --> 01:19:17.742
[SPEAKER_00]: No.

01:19:20.591 --> 01:19:23.833
[SPEAKER_01]: I think they're so mad about well, you can ask her if you want.

01:19:23.873 --> 01:19:25.074
[SPEAKER_00]: No, I'm not saying that.

01:19:25.114 --> 01:19:35.383
[SPEAKER_00]: I know there's not the only person that does it, but they literally, like, and the funny thing is they don't even mention it, like, it's not like, well, that's the thing is they do it well.

01:19:35.603 --> 01:19:46.893
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think there's a lot of people who are still angry about the extracurricular activity of certain people who used to own the company and whatnot to the point where they think that where they think it's over compensating so they're not going to get credit for it.

01:19:47.973 --> 01:19:53.396
[SPEAKER_00]: I think they're just putting on a show and sometimes they happen to have more women's matches, sometimes they have more men's matches.

01:19:53.976 --> 01:19:59.059
[SPEAKER_01]: I understand the logic of this being the main event because we're setting up for the Darby.

01:19:59.079 --> 01:20:01.620
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, well, especially with the closing angle, it kind of had to be.

01:20:02.140 --> 01:20:05.342
[SPEAKER_01]: But Darby has a surprise.

01:20:06.903 --> 01:20:07.743
[SPEAKER_01]: Didn't need to happen.

01:20:08.464 --> 01:20:12.886
[SPEAKER_01]: You could have been plugging the Darby's in the building and he wants to do something crazy all night.

01:20:14.363 --> 01:20:18.166
[SPEAKER_01]: and you would have kept the eyeballs on it, too.

01:20:18.706 --> 01:20:22.229
[SPEAKER_01]: Darby's here and he's angry and he's a little bit crazy.

01:20:22.749 --> 01:20:31.535
[SPEAKER_01]: Like you just had them just doing crap in the background while other people are doing like he's playing with a chain saw at some point and it's like, oh, Starry, I do later.

01:20:32.116 --> 01:20:34.798
[SPEAKER_00]: He's vowing to get his hands on the desk.

01:20:35.038 --> 01:20:35.218
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:20:35.298 --> 01:20:41.863
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's, yes, he's not only is he vowing to get his hands on the death of ours, he's looking to permanently injure one of them.

01:20:42.423 --> 01:20:43.484
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:20:43.724 --> 01:20:44.986
[SPEAKER_01]: He is on a rampage.

01:20:45.026 --> 01:20:45.606
[SPEAKER_01]: He is back.

01:20:45.947 --> 01:20:54.795
[SPEAKER_01]: Like they're doing promos and he's the guy backstage doing the Tasmanian devil stuff just throwing stuff all around, you know, looking for people and things like that.

01:20:54.895 --> 01:20:57.318
[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, maybe show the death of writers like hold up somewhere.

01:20:57.878 --> 01:21:02.521
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, with their film student or whatever, doing the weird lighting and angles for their matches.

01:21:05.023 --> 01:21:08.565
[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, they're hiding from Darby, because they're afraid of Darby somewhat.

01:21:08.685 --> 01:21:09.185
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

01:21:09.265 --> 01:21:10.006
[SPEAKER_01]: Something like that.

01:21:10.506 --> 01:21:12.947
[SPEAKER_01]: I just found the surprise of Darby.

01:21:16.550 --> 01:21:20.132
[SPEAKER_01]: I'd much rather they promote it than have it be a surprise.

01:21:21.715 --> 01:21:24.837
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, so they had a match and and it was, you know, it's good.

01:21:24.877 --> 01:21:26.177
[SPEAKER_00]: These guys always have good matches.

01:21:26.197 --> 01:21:41.644
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, so the key spot was they, they're, they're in the ring and Orange Cassidy was on the top rope and he was going to hit, uh, you know, one of his, I probably, the elbow on Pock and Pock did the slow roll on Orange Cassidy always does and rolled out of the ring.

01:21:42.284 --> 01:21:44.085
[SPEAKER_00]: And then Orange Cassidy followed him out.

01:21:44.505 --> 01:21:46.006
[SPEAKER_00]: They ended up fighting into the crowd.

01:21:46.986 --> 01:22:08.766
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, and then the rough was, so, oh, yeah, so on the top of the stairs, Pock gave him a tombstone and then he, or started rolling down the stairs, Ref went to check on him and while the ref was checking on him, uh, Darby Allen, who was hiding behind the rafters and,

01:22:10.155 --> 01:22:18.963
[SPEAKER_00]: locked pox ankle to something and the problem with this was like nobody could see Derby

01:22:21.128 --> 01:22:23.370
[SPEAKER_00]: They were barely showing what was going on.

01:22:23.390 --> 01:22:26.893
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, the announcer's actually did a good job of explaining it.

01:22:27.294 --> 01:22:31.197
[SPEAKER_00]: But I imagine for the people in the crowd, it didn't work very well.

01:22:31.718 --> 01:22:33.239
[SPEAKER_00]: And then Orange went back to the ring.

01:22:33.700 --> 01:22:39.765
[SPEAKER_00]: And then somewhere in there, I guess the, the handcuff broke and the camera caught it.

01:22:40.146 --> 01:22:42.608
[SPEAKER_00]: So they couldn't pretend that he was locked anymore.

01:22:42.628 --> 01:22:42.988
[SPEAKER_00]: So Pock,

01:22:45.585 --> 01:23:06.139
[SPEAKER_00]: made it back to the ring and then the other problem with this was I guess the ref was counting the whole time but the camera wasn't focused on the ref counting we couldn't hear the ref counting maybe the people in the building could but on that scene like it just kind of all happened but it was sometimes when they do this it works really well because you got the one

01:23:06.919 --> 01:23:18.147
[SPEAKER_00]: two, three, and the guys desperately trying to get back to the ring, and you got the drama, but when you can't hear the riff and you can't see the riff, it kind of destroys that drama.

01:23:18.927 --> 01:23:29.635
[SPEAKER_00]: But Pock gets back to the ring, and then as soon as you got back into the ring, orange Cassie hit him with a diveral, and then he cradle him and pinned him, and it was a good

01:23:30.550 --> 01:23:38.515
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, the idea of the finish was good and if the very finish of the finish was good, but the lead up to it, just left a little to be desired.

01:23:41.056 --> 01:23:44.178
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I just I was one of those things where I'm just like.

01:23:45.418 --> 01:23:58.170
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, they turn it into a yano match, all the sun, and it's like, all right, yeah, and the other thing was who look at this office, as soon as Darby locked pox angles to think this the feed cut off or not who looks like.

01:23:58.230 --> 01:23:58.350
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:23:58.851 --> 01:23:59.031
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:23:59.251 --> 01:24:01.473
[SPEAKER_00]: So some people didn't see anything that happened after that.

01:24:02.114 --> 01:24:04.276
[SPEAKER_01]: I, I hate it just do the count out.

01:24:05.679 --> 01:24:19.346
[SPEAKER_01]: And they, so I think the idea might have been that they were going to just do the count out, but then the thing broke, no, no, no, no, no, no, I don't think so I think the whole point was he, oh, we can't do the because Tony hates count out finishes.

01:24:19.406 --> 01:24:20.287
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's like, no,

01:24:31.700 --> 01:24:34.182
[SPEAKER_00]: So then after the match, Pock is all pissed off.

01:24:34.202 --> 01:24:35.443
[SPEAKER_00]: See, goes after Darby.

01:24:36.404 --> 01:24:43.369
[SPEAKER_00]: Darby sprayed him with something, then he held up a taser and then like the,

01:24:44.920 --> 01:25:05.751
[SPEAKER_00]: Like in the camera cuts away, Darby takes off, they go after him, and then all of a sudden Darby has a Molotov cocktail, and then this is the spot where the security just runs in like came from out of nowhere and just tackled Darby to the ground, Darby was fighting like trying to get away from the security guard, I was loving this, this is a lot of special night.

01:25:06.031 --> 01:25:13.655
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and they're like nine security guards trying to hold Darby back and the deathwriters are scared like they're actually selling that they're scared.

01:25:14.455 --> 01:25:20.118
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and I want to be in the security garden as a tag team for all I got to get a lot of writers have a match.

01:25:20.178 --> 01:25:22.179
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the security guard should be on the death writers.

01:25:22.939 --> 01:25:29.842
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but yeah, it was, so the finish was wild, but again, like I don't know how many people saw it because, uh, you know, the feed cut out apparently.

01:25:30.502 --> 01:25:36.165
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I guess if you went over to HBO Max, it was on there, but if you just tape the show on Hulu, you didn't you missed the ending.

01:25:36.825 --> 01:25:37.506
[SPEAKER_00]: I watch.

01:25:38.546 --> 01:25:38.806
[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you.

01:25:38.826 --> 01:25:39.406
[SPEAKER_00]: Watch it live.

01:25:39.426 --> 01:25:40.227
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:25:40.988 --> 01:25:43.491
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, I mean, I caught it on my thing.

01:25:43.531 --> 01:25:44.092
[SPEAKER_00]: So that was fine.

01:25:44.753 --> 01:25:46.856
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm getting a new cable system on the weekends.

01:25:46.876 --> 01:25:50.120
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if it's going to be different, but I've got a great deal.

01:25:50.160 --> 01:25:53.404
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll tell you about it off here, but yeah, so that was the show.

01:25:53.924 --> 01:25:55.687
[SPEAKER_00]: I thought, you know, I was too long.

01:25:58.492 --> 01:26:07.178
[SPEAKER_00]: Although like I will say like watching it like by the end of the show like it didn't feel like worn out like I sometimes do, but I think part of that is was probably the fact that it didn't have to do a show right after.

01:26:07.198 --> 01:26:21.368
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, because usually by the time I watch the show and then record I have a great time doing the show, but then I go sit down and I'm wiped I fall asleep within 10 minutes like when I you know I sit on the couch and throw something on TV and yeah.

01:26:22.417 --> 01:26:23.517
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I thought we had a show.

01:26:23.577 --> 01:26:26.078
[SPEAKER_01]: So, yeah, I know I'm sorry about that.

01:26:26.278 --> 01:26:26.938
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, let's go on.

01:26:26.998 --> 01:26:30.079
[SPEAKER_00]: And then next week, like I said, they're doing a three-hour show.

01:26:30.239 --> 01:26:32.320
[SPEAKER_00]: Two hours a dime might one hour of collision.

01:26:32.820 --> 01:26:39.482
[SPEAKER_00]: And like I said, I say, at this point, I'm 85% sure we're going to just record in our usual timeslot.

01:26:40.162 --> 01:26:42.803
[SPEAKER_00]: And if something happens on collision, people can tell us.

01:26:43.551 --> 01:26:44.872
[SPEAKER_01]: you'll need to remind me.

01:26:44.892 --> 01:26:46.353
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.

01:26:47.313 --> 01:26:56.299
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I might just be watching and going, uh, I got another hour that because because knowing them with this three hour thing, they're going to save something for the main event on that third.

01:26:56.519 --> 01:26:57.980
[SPEAKER_01]: I almost like I do it.

01:26:58.300 --> 01:27:02.702
[SPEAKER_00]: I almost like I like when Excalibur first mentioned it.

01:27:02.923 --> 01:27:05.704
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think I kind of knew that this was coming, but I had kind

01:27:12.384 --> 01:27:26.028
[SPEAKER_00]: We have a three hour special next week with dynamite followed by one hour collision and the way he were I thought it was four hours and oh my god I was I I wasn't going to do it like

01:27:27.130 --> 01:27:29.792
[SPEAKER_00]: but then like a, I realize that you misspoke.

01:27:30.453 --> 01:27:36.757
[SPEAKER_01]: I just need to show of you or like a live KM of you like when your arms cross like this, not good to do it, nope, nope, nope.

01:27:36.837 --> 01:27:39.760
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I think this is gonna be the norm from going forward.

01:27:39.800 --> 01:27:46.345
[SPEAKER_00]: Whenever they have a Saturday paper view, they're gonna be doing three hour dynamites on Wednesday and then a one hour pre-show on Saturday.

01:27:48.086 --> 01:27:49.087
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so.

01:27:49.787 --> 01:28:03.622
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, in a way I like it because it's actually one hour less that I have to watch because normally they do they still do a two hour collision and then the one hour pre show so in this sense we're actually got less dynamite and collision to watch.

01:28:03.883 --> 01:28:04.984
[SPEAKER_00]: So I do like that.

01:28:05.785 --> 01:28:05.965
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

01:28:06.559 --> 01:28:06.879
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

01:28:07.039 --> 01:28:07.619
[SPEAKER_00]: So that was that.

01:28:07.659 --> 01:28:08.280
[SPEAKER_00]: That was a show.

01:28:08.480 --> 01:28:10.080
[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, I'm in the NXT show.

01:28:10.101 --> 01:28:11.581
[SPEAKER_00]: I thought it was a good show too.

01:28:11.901 --> 01:28:14.902
[SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, like that that hearty smash wasn't very good.

01:28:15.263 --> 01:28:23.986
[SPEAKER_00]: And the women's they I think what happened was everyone figured out that the men were going to the NXT men were going to win and the there was going to be one and one on the

01:28:25.807 --> 01:28:37.290
[SPEAKER_00]: right, but they switched it up because everyone thought the women were going to win because they were XWW women and they had the NXT women win and then they had Ricky Saints lose in the main event.

01:28:37.370 --> 01:28:41.411
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, T&A got a belt and they won the main event.

01:28:41.511 --> 01:28:44.312
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'd say, you know, even though it was a push, they kind of won the night.

01:28:46.178 --> 01:28:47.158
[SPEAKER_00]: But I would say so.

01:28:47.219 --> 01:29:06.087
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it was a better deal for what for the purpose the purpose was It was the wrestling was better on a w but the show was better on NXT and the match of the night was on NXT It was which again shocked me if you haven't seen it and I know a lot of people that watch time I might go and say what I think you really like the Mustafa Ali's awesome.

01:29:06.107 --> 01:29:08.308
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think I think Shawn Michaels knows that too so

01:29:12.270 --> 01:29:29.814
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, that was and I hope it was weird seeing Ali wrestle as a total baby face because he is the most despicable heel like he beats up women in TNA like he's he is he is the worst in TNA and and he was an absolute 100% baby face in this match.

01:29:29.854 --> 01:29:33.255
[SPEAKER_00]: So it was weird, but I enjoyed it.

01:29:34.570 --> 01:29:36.913
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, and, and they actually set up stuff for next week.

01:29:37.013 --> 01:29:49.870
[SPEAKER_00]: Matt Kurtone and Josh Briggs, which, all right, uh, and Lexus King who is a fantastic idiot against, uh, Tavion Heights, which is so awesome.

01:29:50.290 --> 01:29:52.411
[SPEAKER_00]: He's sitting there with Dr. Wagner Jr.

01:29:52.972 --> 01:29:55.073
[SPEAKER_00]: and our L. Heode, the Dr. Wagner Jr.

01:29:55.113 --> 01:29:59.916
[SPEAKER_00]: and our camera with his idiots' name is, but he's like, in this thing that is Tavy on Heights.

01:30:00.356 --> 01:30:12.044
[SPEAKER_00]: Even though Tavy on Heights is black as a night and this dude under the match was clearly Mexican, but Alexis King was convinced that he was Tavy on Heights and it was glorious.

01:30:12.844 --> 01:30:14.065
[SPEAKER_00]: It was awesome, you have to see it.

01:30:15.126 --> 01:30:16.907
[SPEAKER_00]: So Jeff gets plugs in.

01:30:18.356 --> 01:30:23.519
[SPEAKER_01]: At Crap Game 13 on X, I do a show called Shake Them Ropes on Voices of Wrestling this week.

01:30:24.359 --> 01:30:25.740
[SPEAKER_01]: Might be the last shake them ropes.

01:30:26.060 --> 01:30:27.761
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I don't have a coast any longer.

01:30:27.921 --> 01:30:31.522
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I will explain on the show.

01:30:31.542 --> 01:30:34.004
[SPEAKER_01]: I was with you last week.

01:30:35.224 --> 01:30:38.186
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, we'll see what happens.

01:30:38.726 --> 01:30:40.667
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'll talk through it and I'll

01:30:41.600 --> 01:30:54.076
[SPEAKER_01]: Let you all know I'm not enjoying wrestling a lot right now also so I don't know if I want to rebuild the show or not, but we'll have a short but sweet conversation maybe I'll pick a Vader club maybe I want we'll see.

01:30:55.028 --> 01:30:55.388
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

01:30:55.989 --> 01:30:59.350
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I will keep my fingers crossed on that one.

01:30:59.691 --> 01:31:10.957
[SPEAKER_00]: And Jeff and I will be back next week, but before that, I will be doing to take down with Gary Gonzalez on Monday, where we talk about all the news of the weekend.

01:31:11.017 --> 01:31:19.242
[SPEAKER_00]: So we'll probably talk, you know, and probably do have it like a restful dream preview and we'll talk about crown jewel and maybe even

01:31:20.162 --> 01:31:22.604
[SPEAKER_00]: TNA Battle for Glory is coming up this weekend, I think.

01:31:23.125 --> 01:31:26.808
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, always never shortage of things talk about.

01:31:26.889 --> 01:31:29.791
[SPEAKER_00]: So no 4 Jeff Hawkins.

01:31:30.132 --> 01:31:34.216
[SPEAKER_00]: I've been Paul Fontaine and this has been the Dynamite Show.

01:31:35.737 --> 01:31:36.338
[SPEAKER_00]: Go, Jay's