2025 AEW Hook Awards & New Year’s Smash Recap: Willow Wins Gold! | The Dynamite Show

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[SPEAKER_05]: Dino Ma!

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[SPEAKER_05]: Hey, going on.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Hey everybody, it's time to show off on Team Jeff Hawkins.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Here on the fight game media network, and we're joined by a special guest.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, we're off to a rip or a chart.

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[SPEAKER_05]: A deed offer, Dean, joining us today.

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[SPEAKER_05]: A deed is, I want to explain this to everybody.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And before he stops me to correct me, I want to finish what I'm going to say.

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[SPEAKER_05]: A deed is a super fan of AW.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And I don't mean that in the same way that you might think of a super fan of a W that just worships at the altar of Tony Khan and thinks everything in a W is awesome and there's nothing bad.

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[SPEAKER_05]: But what I mean by a super fan is he travels to shows.

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[SPEAKER_05]: He is super into it, but he's also not afraid to say when something isn't going quite right.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And those are the kind of fans I like and I've been friends with the Dean for a few years.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Jeff, I think you are as well.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And I also get

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[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, Paul, I didn't care to hear you.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, okay, that's weird.

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[SPEAKER_05]: But you can hear me, right Jeff?

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yes, okay, and a dean can't hear me.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Great, this is wonderful.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Hang on.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I can hear, okay, can ask him if he can hear you.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Ask him if he can hear me.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, he just left on.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Well, we may lose the Dean.

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[SPEAKER_05]: But I was going to say I was going to put a Dean over.

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[SPEAKER_05]: He is a super fan.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, okay.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Well, he can hear me too.

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[SPEAKER_05]: He can okay.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So everybody could hear me except for a Dean.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So, crowd.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_05]: We believe they are not people listening.

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[SPEAKER_05]: People on the YouTube chat.

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[SPEAKER_05]: People in the thing here.

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[SPEAKER_05]: We're going to add a Dean again and see.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Hey, a Dean.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Can you hear me?

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[SPEAKER_05]: Okay, Dean cannot hear us.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know what's going on.

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[SPEAKER_05]: He can hear us before the show.

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[SPEAKER_05]: We were all chatting.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Everything was gone just fine.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And then you started it and broke his audio.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know what I did.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Wait, I think I just heard him.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, we can hear him.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, now I could actually hear you guys.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, okay.

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[SPEAKER_03]: There you go.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Is there any, is there any, is there any echo?

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[SPEAKER_05]: No, nothing, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no

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[SPEAKER_05]: Um, you know, and yeah, and I've been friends with the Dean for a few years, Jeff as well.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So I'm pleased to have have a Dean join us.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So we can have three voices.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Maybe he's going to have a tiebreaker for some of these awards.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So for those of you that maybe haven't heard one of these shows before, these year-end of shows, I called it the half-assed Dynamite Review because we're going to do a half-assed Dynamite Review.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Um, and then we're going to get right into the award.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So we'll do like one segment and then in award.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Uh, Dean, I think I'm hearing some background noise in your semiai's and the volume or your computer asking it through as computer speakers.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, so just turn that your volume down a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And then we'll go back maybe maybe just mute and then when you come on just talk about that makes sense.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, and then so yeah, so we'll do that.

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[SPEAKER_05]: We'll go back and forth.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I'll ask Jeff and a dean and I'll do my own.

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[SPEAKER_05]: and then we'll move on.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And then if there's people listening in the chat, I don't see anybody, I actually had you see, I just saw somebody in the chat here.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Darren Davis, I could see you.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Chat can fill in if you have any thoughts on the awards.

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[SPEAKER_05]: If we need a tiebreaker, we'll go to the chat and we'll declare the awards.

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[SPEAKER_05]: There's eight awards, we'll go through them in order.

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[SPEAKER_05]: But before we get into the Dynamite Review and before we get into the hook awards,

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[SPEAKER_05]: Uh, now we crowned a new world champion and we crowned a continental champion, but I'm not not what happened on this show.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Um, and we got some good matches, but we get good matches on dynamite like I.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Honestly, like when the show was over, it's like, I think there's been like half a dozen episodes dynamite in the last two months that have been better than this pay per view.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_05]: That was my general thought.

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[SPEAKER_05]: It was like, why did I pay $50 for this?

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[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, we did get to see a new champion.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So that was cool.

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[SPEAKER_05]: But Jeff, what did you think?

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[SPEAKER_05]: And then I'll go to you, Dean.

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[SPEAKER_07]: I thought, Moxley, winning the tournament was preposterous.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, so I'm not the only one.

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[SPEAKER_07]: He's and was the least interesting of the four choices.

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[SPEAKER_07]: To be honest with you, especially since we built this all up about the callous family.

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[SPEAKER_07]: And he's also the one who needs the tournament win the least.

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[SPEAKER_07]: Now, I know that O'Cotta won this thing last year.

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[SPEAKER_07]: But it also appears that Tony is just absolutely ignoring his partnership with New Japan in every way, shape or form.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Uh, yes, no.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I would say I, I believe until I see it wrong, I'm going to stick to this.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I think that he made a deal that Ocada's going to lose to Tana Hashie and an exchange for that he gets to have a caught a beat to catch the

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[SPEAKER_05]: on his own television.

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[SPEAKER_07]: That's that's fine, too.

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[SPEAKER_07]: We can we can do it that way.

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[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_07]: I thought it would have have elevated a Kyle into a new stratosphere for me.

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[SPEAKER_07]: And we get a completely unearned baby face turned by John Moxley.

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[SPEAKER_07]: Well, there is this entire year.

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[SPEAKER_07]: absolutely worthless.

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[SPEAKER_07]: And some ways, um, you know, every time he said this doesn't matter.

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[SPEAKER_07]: Now it turns out it's true.

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[SPEAKER_07]: It didn't matter.

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[SPEAKER_07]: Uh, you made this point.

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[SPEAKER_07]: I'm going to steal it and and send it to you.

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[SPEAKER_07]: It makes every baby face chasing him to free the title and to free AEW from his

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[SPEAKER_07]: Ridiculous because at the end of the year, he just wins this title and goes, oh man, A, W's the greatest.

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[SPEAKER_07]: This title is for his fans.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I'm just like this is he's never had a cup of Jesus.

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[SPEAKER_07]: He's never a bullet chest for anything he did.

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[SPEAKER_07]: He just moves on and now people are cheering him.

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[SPEAKER_07]: Okay, great.

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[SPEAKER_07]: I just, I, I looked at that and the more I thought about it, like the matches were good.

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[SPEAKER_07]: Don't get me wrong.

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[SPEAKER_07]: Yes, I can, I could be that fan.

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[SPEAKER_07]: The matches were really good.

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[SPEAKER_07]: What the logic is just baffling to me.

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[SPEAKER_07]: I now yield the floor to you too.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So, Adine, if you remember, he used to text me during John Moxie's tidal rain asking me, what's the point of him hiding the belt?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, let's correct.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, all the time.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_05]: All the time.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I'm like, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Now I'm even more confused.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And what did Tony Khan say?

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's like, you know, it's all part of the long journey.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We missed right at the whole time.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We shouldn't have been asked.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Where's the third inning?

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[SPEAKER_06]: We're only in the third inning.

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[SPEAKER_05]: That's exactly exactly.

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[SPEAKER_05]: He's got, he's got two more, two more baby face heel turns before.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Well, oh, by the way, you remember when we'll aspirate, got taken out by John Moxley and, and we'll ask for a vow of revenge, how's that going to go now?

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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, you know, we're going to get into the show from last night.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I assume pretty soon.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But, you know, when we talk about the backstage promo segment involving all the death writers, including Moxley, I mean, Moxley sounds like in between, gets leaning baby face.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And everybody else sounds like they're coming after their baby faces with heel like, you know, heel like maneuvers intact and tendencies.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So,

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[SPEAKER_03]: It seems like maybe there's a split coming maybe maybe we're going to see a half a full faction that's half you have baby face wouldn't you love that Jeff.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Or split death writers where maybe moxley and marina and I don't know who else maybe talk and then the other guys are interesting thing is that they do these things about six months too late because when like the when the death writers were really just hot as hell.

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[SPEAKER_07]: On my other show, my co-host was like, well, you think they'd be running up against other factions here who are already, you know, doing their thing too, like the hurt syndicate like the callous family expanding their things and you think that they wouldn't be.

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[SPEAKER_07]: messing around with guys like the young bucks who are the things that they were trying to quote unquote get rid of.

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[SPEAKER_07]: At one time in this company and now we've gone full circle and now now we have Shelton Benjamin coming into face to death writers and now we have the callous family versus the death writers and you're just like.

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[SPEAKER_07]: Well, what happened to that whole organization that decided to have anarchy in the arena and blood and guts matches against the death of writers to get rid of them out of this company?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And just my two cents on the whole tournament as we were talking about before.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I also just just like you guys pretty baffled by the booking decision to book Moxie to win it after this whole year after the whole story that he's been telling.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, I guess we misread it, but I did find the win and the promo kind of like a little baffling, but at the same time

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[SPEAKER_03]: us.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I thought it was really great.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I also thought that the, you know, was a really great moment for a W for the year and the fans really got behind it, which I thought really, really helped.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The end of the paper, which I guess we'll look at to in the review here.

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[SPEAKER_05]: A dean is too young to remember Bobby Ewing, but that's what I kind of remember.

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[SPEAKER_05]: That's what kind of what I thought it's fair enough.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, you can do Bobby Ewing.

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[SPEAKER_06]: You can do the Wizard of Oz.

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[SPEAKER_06]: You had the power to go back all along.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, yeah, to do was click your heel.

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[SPEAKER_05]: There's no place like them and and then yeah, so you know, either not like there was you know a couple really really good matches on the show and there was a stretch like the middle two hours of that paper view were like

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[SPEAKER_05]: as mediocre as anything that I've seen on an AWP a few in a while.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Like the first hour in the last hour, we're great.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Like, you know, it's just at middle two hours.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I didn't think there was much there.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And the crowd was dead.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Um, you know, for a lot of it, um, they, they were, they were up for those two matches and they were up for the main event.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Um, but, you know, most of the rest of it, not as much.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I thought the crowd was kind of into the mix, and that's may have also a little bit, especially for the OC and Tony spots.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I thought, yeah, you know what, full admission.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I was making nachos during that match.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I don't really have much.

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[SPEAKER_07]: I think it goes to a problem that we're going to start seeing a little bit more at the beginning of this year in that.

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[SPEAKER_07]: For the crowd to be into the match there has to be some element of.

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[SPEAKER_07]: mystery as to who's going to win.

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[SPEAKER_07]: And there was absolutely no element of mystery in any of that middle stretch between the street fight, Darby and Gabe Kid, etc.

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[SPEAKER_07]: etc.

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[SPEAKER_07]: I mean, you can sit there and watch and applaud and do, yes, this is perfectly crumulate, technically sound, street fighting, or whatever you want to say.

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[SPEAKER_07]: I mean, I liked the street fight a lot to be honest with you.

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[SPEAKER_07]: But there was never, and I think that goes into the way that I watch wrestling versus people that I talk to sometimes watching and that I'm watching, you know, trying to figure who's going to win and lose and, you know, semi, you know, rooting for whatever.

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[SPEAKER_07]: And everybody else is kind of like, well, but they hit that move correctly.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I just like, okay, great.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, that bothered me.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Paul and I were actually watching the show around the same time.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And we were talking about that as well about how, like, the crowd was dead.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And so many misplots, I mean, multiple misplots over and over and over again, it's like for for someone like me that can get hard that can be hard to get into to really determine how well match is going to go or how well I'm going to read a match by the end I think I think to the crowd was the lack of crowd response in a lot of cases was throwing the wrestlers off because there was especially in that street fight like there were spots where.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Normally you have that Pavlovian reaction like this is awesome or a chant or whatever and they'd hit their move and nothing like crickets and and then you're like You know the guys are like, well, what do we do now?

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[SPEAKER_05]: Because you're you're used to like, okay, we'll soak in the crowd and then we'll move on and there's nothing to soak in.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, yeah, so that I mean it wasn't like I said it was the worst paper view of the year, which is I mean it's still a good show like you know by saying is worst paper year they had an incredible year for paper views so you know like if you look at cage match, you know for whatever that's worth it was the lowest rated paper view of the year, but it was still probably higher than 80% of the WWE paper views.

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[SPEAKER_05]: like in terms of their score.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Now, I wouldn't agree with that last part necessarily, but in terms of like, yeah, I thought, you know, having a score that was lower than the rest of the WWE papers, because normally we, you know, that like said the papers are pretty great, like, you know, he stuff happens, great matches, you know, whatever.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So,

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[SPEAKER_05]: Um, anything else on the paper view, Jeff, before we move on?

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[SPEAKER_05]: No.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So we, we move to this this dynamite, which I want to say, I said in the in the preview for this and you see in the notes when we advertise that called the half ass dynamite review.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And I kind of almost wish I was doing like a regular review because I really like the show a lot.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Um, and uh, I don't know what you guys felt about it, but I wasn't expecting much from this show.

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[SPEAKER_05]: New Year's Eve Omaha.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I'm like, I'm sure everybody in that company would have rather been anywhere else, but Omaha last night, you know, for New Year's Eve.

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[SPEAKER_05]: But I thought they probably didn't do World Champion.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I'm sure he would have rather been.

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[SPEAKER_05]: But what does he call New Jersey?

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[SPEAKER_05]: It got symmetrical, please.

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[SPEAKER_05]: The most magical place on earth.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_07]: I'm sorry, New Jersey.

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[SPEAKER_07]: It's Long Island, New York.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Thank you.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Long Island, New York.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, yeah, sorry.

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[SPEAKER_05]: My bad.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I played.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Long Island.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I'm trying to keep trying to keep track of MDF's lies.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So.

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[SPEAKER_05]: But I thought it was a great show like I'm like really really good good matches good stuff happening good promos and and we'll get into like the difference in the booking of the world champion with mjf holding about as to when hangman held it night and day.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Like, you know, right now, the world champion is the most important person in the company and that belt is what everyone in the company's shooting for and when hangman had it, it was like nobody cared about it.

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[SPEAKER_05]: The only person that cared about it was the person he was directly feuding with at the time and all the other top guys were busy doing other things and sure not the case now.

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[SPEAKER_03]: If I may, I would just say that, you know, MJF was gone most of the time that Eggman was champion, obviously.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And, you know, one of the things that we just keep, you know, keep getting reminded of, especially in these last couple of weeks, with MJF being back on TV and winning the title, is, it's a star-driven business.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He is their biggest star right now.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And the fact of the matter is, he walked in.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And won the world title after two weeks of TV.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Which I think I told set the poll.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think is the quickest.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Anyone's ever reappeared on TV and then taken the world title.

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[SPEAKER_03]: This is a couple of these to hearted.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, no idea.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And for show, like you said, he's booked.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Is he booked like the world champion?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I don't, you can argue Adam Page was booked like the world champion.

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[SPEAKER_03]: John Moxie was booked at the world champion.

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[SPEAKER_03]: MJF is booked like the biggest star on your TV screen right now.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I think that's the biggest difference.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Moxley was when Moxley had the belt, everybody was after.

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[SPEAKER_05]: As soon as Hangman won it, nobody cared.

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[SPEAKER_05]: like that's the thing like, you know, and you know, and it gets when Joe had it, that's when Swerve came back, but I just thought like when Hangman, I said it every week, like, there's nobody cares.

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[SPEAKER_05]: The belt, no, you know, he's not the top guy.

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[SPEAKER_05]: He's not being booked like the top guy.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And your world champion should be booked the top guy.

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[SPEAKER_07]: Jeff, I wouldn't have done this show last night.

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[SPEAKER_07]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_07]: It was a very good show as you guys say.

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[SPEAKER_07]: should not have been wasted on New Year's Eve when nobody wants to speak home watching wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_07]: When there's actually important sporting events going on in the United States, this should have been a year in review, do a clip show, set the table for the next year.

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[SPEAKER_07]: Do this show as your first show of the year.

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[SPEAKER_07]: I get that I get that the ending was a happy ending for the year.

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[SPEAKER_07]: surprise of more than 400,000 people watch this show.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, I think that's a really high number.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I do do.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Did you do?

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[SPEAKER_05]: Did you hear Tony's response when he was asked about that on the press call?

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[SPEAKER_05]: He basically said, he thinks that he thinks a lot of people watch these shows and he wants people to watch him and tell their families and families are gathered around for the holidays

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[SPEAKER_05]: Well, yeah, I have and it's immediately shut down exactly.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_05]: No, but Tony and Tony's mind, he thinks that if you're in a W fan, you should be showing.

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[SPEAKER_05]: He's almost like telling people, you have to show this to your friends and your family.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Like, this is so great.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And this is a great tradition for the holidays for everyone to gather around and watch all this bloody matches, literally bloody matches.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I'm just like, he's in another freaking planet.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Like,

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, but I mean, we watched it and we liked it.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So So yeah, they open with MJF.

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[SPEAKER_05]: He did a promo Brought out the triple B his his version of the belt Kenya mega shows up via video

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[SPEAKER_05]: Basically, he does the same promo Jeff Jarrett did last year.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Valuing to win the world title, but he's got to work his way up.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And I'm infinitely more interested in Kenny Omega's quest than I am for old double jays.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And then Hangman, it's Hangman, it's where he came out.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And they want the belt.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And they ended up empty F left.

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[SPEAKER_05]: They beat up a bunch of security guards.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I have no idea why those poor guys weren't doing anything like they weren't I'm just gone like I'm not even sure why they were still there, but they beat the shit out of these poor security guards and Nobody I don't think they got fined or anything and then Joe shows up and now he's the he wants the belt back

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[SPEAKER_05]: And, uh, and then it ended up that Swarve made a lights out match for next week between him and Hangman against Hook and Hobbs.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And I'm telling you right now, I'm not watching that match.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So Jeff, you're going to have to recap it.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I told I said this.

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[SPEAKER_05]: The last lights out match they had.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I'm not watching anymore.

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[SPEAKER_05]: EW lights out matches.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So I'm not watching that match next week.

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[SPEAKER_05]: The lights will be out.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I won't be able to see anything.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Well, no, because it's not NXT.

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[SPEAKER_05]: They will, he will turn the lights off and turn them back on.

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[SPEAKER_07]: But on a blindfold and try and figure out how to have that.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I'm not interested in a W torture porn.

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[SPEAKER_07]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_07]: Here comes the big obstacle for all AEW booking.

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[SPEAKER_07]: AEW is a wrestling company where all the fans know the backstage politics and

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[SPEAKER_07]: You need to convince us that Kenny can somehow win the title.

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[SPEAKER_07]: And I don't know if they can do that.

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[SPEAKER_07]: I mean, look, if I didn't believe anything, yes, Kenny's the greatest wrestler in history, et cetera, et cetera, if you wanna put that stuff out there.

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[SPEAKER_07]: But I need some sort of a build from this company to make me believe that, hey, this might just be a transitional title raid and I don't think they can get there.

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[SPEAKER_07]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_07]: I mean, that's the other part is I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_07]: I don't know what exactly what you need to do.

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[SPEAKER_07]: I just know the end point.

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[SPEAKER_07]: I don't know how to get there necessarily.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I think he came down on the show.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So I think he hinted at it on in the promo, where he said, you know, whether it's next week or if I have to claw my way to get there, I mean, he kind of hinted at it a time to get there.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I think that the idea behind the promo was to plant the seed.

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[SPEAKER_03]: audience watching the show knows Kenny Omega knows he's great.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe they don't know that he's so great right now that he could beat MJF, but we can maybe get to watch that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Remember part of a bit pissed me off about this open excitement.

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[SPEAKER_03]: MJF has a title match at two weeks that can get talked about in this segment.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So it's going to be time for Kenny and you know four weeks six weeks, maybe a bill to revolution.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe that's the revolution.

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[SPEAKER_07]: I'm

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[SPEAKER_07]: I think it's a revolution match, but yeah, it's a matter of those things where it can't be, but it can't be too long because remember, this is just a side quest while he's waiting for the bucks to heal.

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[SPEAKER_07]: So it's one of the least where it's like, let's be him clawed back and then do it.

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[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, okay, cool.

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[SPEAKER_07]: I'm here.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I actually think it's, I think it's further away than that.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I think that I think he might be, I think Omega might be setting himself up to enter the Owen and when the Owen, like I

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[SPEAKER_05]: Because I think that I don't know this, but I think the revolution made event is going to be a three way M.J.F.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Swarve and Hangman.

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[SPEAKER_05]: That's my guess.

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[SPEAKER_03]: My only concern is the wear and tear on Kenny that he'll do even in, you know, trios matches leading up to, you know, to all in, I guess is where they would have that match.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, he's got to stay healthy.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I think that's another reason why you should consider doing it a revolution in Los Angeles.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And he's got a lot of tickets as well.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Sure.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, is a,

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[SPEAKER_03]: Kenny's good right now, supposedly.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, that's why we're seeing him on TV.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That's why he's competing a quote unquote side quest.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Revolution is in, it's about two months.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Could it also be dynasty because they tend to have a match like a kind of a dream match at dynasty every year.

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[SPEAKER_05]: You know, like you had Dan, Dan, Yes, and Osprey the one year.

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[SPEAKER_05]: M.J. F. Omega is almost that.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, I know they wrestle once before, but it is a match, I think that a lot of people want to see.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Um, so yeah, it was, uh, you know, lots set up here that I want to talk about the mandito thing.

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[SPEAKER_05]: There was something to happen later in the show that made me think that the whole ignoring bandito is part of the story.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Um, and to where I think like, I've just got so much going on.

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[SPEAKER_05]: He's not thinking about bandito, even the announcers are over looking bandito.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And we're going to get a moment in that match where it looks like bandito is going to win.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And people are going to buy it.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And I feel like I think Brody's going to cost him a match.

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[SPEAKER_05]: That's where I'm heading out right now, but we'll see.

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[SPEAKER_05]: We'll get into that a little bit later.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So let's get into our first category.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And I'm going to go in reverse order from what I sent them to you guys in.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So we're going to start with show with a year.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And by the way, there are no worst categories on these AW hook awards named after the

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[SPEAKER_05]: At the time we started these, he was definitely a head of Dominic Mysterio and I don't know what happened in five years, but he's definitely not a head of Dominic Mysterio as we entered 2026, but we're still calm the hook awards the first award is going to be sure of the year and I'll go first.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Um, there's a, they had a lot of great shows, as I mentioned, um, uh, I know when a dean and I were talking about this earlier today, he sent me a bunch, and he sent me all these awards and I was saving for the show dude.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, so I stopped reading your text.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Just get what, but I know, but you sent me like six different things and really any one of them could have won.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And honestly, any one of them were probably better than like the best show from any other company.

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[SPEAKER_05]: They, they do really great paid reviews of my opinion.

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[SPEAKER_05]: But I'm going to go with all in.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I think all in just the story going into it, the culmination that we got.

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[SPEAKER_05]: ignoring what happened after, but just in a nut shell for the first six months of the year wrapped up that whole six month period in a nut shell.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And yeah, I thought it was, and a lot of great matches, huge crowd in a stadium in North America.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Just it couldn't have done better.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I thought,

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[SPEAKER_05]: Although the ticket sales ended up not being as good as we thought they were.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I'm not later, but that day we thought they were great.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So yeah, all in 2025 is my AEW show the year.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Jeff, what about you?

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[SPEAKER_07]: If I were going to pick a paper view, I would say double or nothing.

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[SPEAKER_07]: but I'm not picking a paper view.

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[SPEAKER_07]: Oh, I'm picking blood and guts from this year.

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[SPEAKER_07]: Ooh, okay.

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[SPEAKER_07]: Three matches, no filler or very little filler, but even the filler was good as I recall with the promos and sprites.

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[SPEAKER_05]: No, the cooking hops, wasn't it?

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[SPEAKER_05]: Or the hangman at Hobbs.

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[SPEAKER_07]: Hey, man, Hobbs was a great match.

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[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, but I mean, I mean, the the the the non wrestling stuff.

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[SPEAKER_07]: Okay, okay, I believe.

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[SPEAKER_07]: But yes, if it had two blood guts matches, I I loved the show.

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[SPEAKER_07]: It was tight compared to AEW paper views.

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[SPEAKER_07]: Um, didn't over stay.

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[SPEAKER_07]: It's welcome.

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[SPEAKER_07]: I and all three matches banged.

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[SPEAKER_07]: So yeah, that was my show there.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I would throw on an honorable mention for Grand Sama Australia.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I loved that show too, and we're going to get another one in the next month.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Adine.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He kind of took my lead away a little bit there with the Grand Sama Australia.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That's not my pick, but I was just going to mention that, yeah, we did discuss a few really, few shows that I thought really could win this category.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I thought revolution this past year was an excellent show.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, a couple of TVs I thought were particularly good.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, the Fenway music called Dynamite in April of this past year.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I thought was really an excellent dynamite, excellent TV show.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, and I, I know it was, we just had it, but I really got to throw in this, uh, the Christmas collision from this past week.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I thought was really probably could have been the best collision they've ever done.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The, the best collision memory that I have before that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: was the two out of three flaws, Matt, to be sure the bang bang gang and FTR.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And that was not this year.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So, T and I would go with Grand Slam Collision as the Base Collision.

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[SPEAKER_03]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_05]: That had my second best day, W. Match of the Year.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So, again, and we talked, you know, you and I talked about the both grid said shows and I talked about grid said Mexico, which I thought was really great.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I was there.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't really need to that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I had a really, really great time there.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I was very, very special being there.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, I,

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to have we're going to have a clear winner for this category though because I am going to go with all in and I'll just say the reason why I thought all in out of all these shows because.

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[SPEAKER_03]: This all in this year, in particular to me, compared to the previous couple of years, really felt like their WrestleMania.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It really felt like they had big stories going in with a lot of good build, time trying to convince you that this story was going to peak at this time and that at this paper view and you know, brought us a lot of matches that

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[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe some of them didn't deliver as much as we wished for but it built a big card with with with time to build it and it felt like a lot of stuff that happened after that was just kind of like a reset following all in so it felt like a really big show and yeah I'm going to go with all in.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Okay, so all in is the 25 sure of the year, but Honorable mentioned to that blood and guts, because yeah, I think, especially the women definitely over delivered.

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[SPEAKER_05]: We got a super chat here from Tothora.

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[SPEAKER_05]: We'll get to this kind of relating to what we talked about.

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[SPEAKER_05]: With the title reign last thing one month, how would Paul and Jeff?

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[SPEAKER_05]: Sorry, Dean, you can sit this one out.

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[SPEAKER_05]: All right, the hook he'll turn that help Joe in.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I feel like zero.

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[SPEAKER_07]: I can't.

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[SPEAKER_07]: I still can't believe we made the narrative focus of Hangman's title loss.

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[SPEAKER_07]: Hook.

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[SPEAKER_07]: I, I, I, it was, it was already a poor, kind of a poor run to begin with and then to make hook.

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[SPEAKER_07]: The big bad in it.

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[SPEAKER_07]: I'm just like, okay, what have you done for Hangman in this then?

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[SPEAKER_05]: And then the retconning?

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[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, yes, he tapped was because he, he had already turned.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, yeah, like he tapped a joke.

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[SPEAKER_07]: He was wearing a shirt apparently or something.

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[SPEAKER_07]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_05]: It was just dumb.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah long term booking

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[SPEAKER_05]: Um, yeah, this, the other, I, I, I, I'm not a fan.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I, you know what, just stop trying with hook.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I, I think I thought when he disappeared the last time that the next time we saw him was going to be an NXT.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Um, I, I was, I was shocked that that he showed up back in a W and I, I don't know what the hell he's doing.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And now he's in this match.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, does anyone think that next week's thing is not going to end with either hangman or swerve submitting.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Uh, oh, Dean's time trouble is making it.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Does it do they not think that that's going to end with with Swerve or Hangman submitting hook?

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[SPEAKER_05]: No, of course not.

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[SPEAKER_05]: That's why he's there.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_07]: You should be saying I'm an excursion.

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[SPEAKER_07]: Why hasn't he be saying I'm an excursion yet?

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[SPEAKER_05]: Because he doesn't want to go.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And nobody's going to tell him to do something doesn't want to do.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Fuck the whole point of think though the promo is leading up to his return.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if was this return or his last return was he did go out of excursion.

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[SPEAKER_07]: He was walking around the streets of Red Hook.

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[SPEAKER_05]: uh... then we got uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... mark brisco promo with orange casty roger strong multiple guests Tony storm me nishira caught this was this was terrible this was so freaking bad and uh... well i would say actually i was kind of little bit into it like the the interaction between Tony and orange casty is kind of cool and they were talking about a match that was going to be coming up right away but what happened was me nishira car was showed up and this thing fell off

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[SPEAKER_05]: uh, mean at Luther, they're trying to set up some sort of a thruple between these three except mean as jealous and orange is like, get your hands out of your pants and all this I mean, it's like, oh my god, it's, it's just brutal, brisco was good.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I mean brisco's always great, but yeah, this, this was best.

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[SPEAKER_07]: brisco's good, but the whole point of the whole Roddy getting his wind thing was that he accepted by the conglomeration and he still pulling me, I'm not part of it thing.

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[SPEAKER_05]: He literally said, I don't want to be here.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Did he not?

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And then.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I'm one nothing to do with this.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I think it's exactly.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Well, you and everyone else, because then they go out there and they have this tornado tag.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And I mean, it wasn't bad, but and the fans kind of got into it at points.

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[SPEAKER_05]: they fricking like they did dancing and they did more and they did this on the paper view too where Roddy and Marina did spots and people cheered that and and Roddy's just fricking laying into her.

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[SPEAKER_05]: She and her heater with a backbreaker this time slapped the shit out of her on the paper view and these fans love it, you know, okay, you beat this wife woohoo!

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[SPEAKER_05]: Like I just, you know, Claudio's like, you know, on beat on Tony, and I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Like I, I, I wasn't super into this, but the end, I think Claudio ended up getting the win over, do you need to see Kyle?

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[SPEAKER_05]: No, Kyle's not even in the match.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I think it must've been Roddy.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know, did you guys catch you even got the win here?

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[SPEAKER_05]: I know it was Claudio, but I can't remember who he pinned.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, Claudio.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Hmm.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He must have been Roddy.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Think it might have been orange.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Was that the whole thing that the end of the match?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Hit the pop-up uppercut.

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[SPEAKER_05]: That's what happened.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The pop-up uppercut for the pin and then at the end of the match Tony was checking on him and then he came out.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And then Nina got jealous, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And Roddy was, he just got the hell out of there because he's done with this shit.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Did I, did I, was I too hard on this match?

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[SPEAKER_05]: This was my least favorite part of the show.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I agree.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I met Mattress there, maybe a little bit less than there.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And, you know, one thing I think we'll just have to accept over time, and I'm kind of into it, all you sound a little bit into it, I think the crowd is really good to start to eat up this orange and Tony stuff, and whatever they throw in with me, you know.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if the adding me to it is going to make it better or worse the same.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The paper view it made it seem like just the two of them together would get the crowd electrified.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So I guess we'll see what they end up doing with it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe they end up dropping me in a from it long term.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Jeff, there was a, there was something in the discord, and I want to ask you this question because I'm interested in your opinion on it.

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[SPEAKER_05]: They didn't ask you specifically, but they could.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So they're asking about Cassidy and storm and everyone else involves, is this actually good comedy and I might either not getting it or might not the right audience.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I find a W humor to be some of the worst attempts at comedy out there, but maybe everyone else is slapping their collective knee on their coach.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I just see in that one right up for you.

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[SPEAKER_07]: You know what I like in it too?

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[SPEAKER_07]: Paul, if you and a bunch of us from here get together at a bar and we have a bunch of inside jokes and nobody else gets them.

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[SPEAKER_07]: That's what I view this as it's almost you have to be in the no because like I'll get I mean look my mom is not an arbiter of good comedy, but she can't stand to me store.

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[SPEAKER_07]: Why can't you go like this is stupid why are we you know that kind of thing.

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[SPEAKER_07]: I think it's it's weird because I don't think it's necessarily bad comedy

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[SPEAKER_07]: in a way for me.

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[SPEAKER_07]: I think it's one of those things where the best bits.

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[SPEAKER_07]: There's a back off point.

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[SPEAKER_07]: Or you have to kind of reset and you have to let the straight man kind of rest a little bit without attacking him so much and this just feels like a bit that keeps on hitting and hitting and hitting and hitting and never really heightens the bit never heightens right but there's never a back off point either it's just you know it's it's the three stages but most just keeps hitting curly over and over and over again and never

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[SPEAKER_07]: And oh, yeah, we should be going to the wedding chapel right now or whatever, but no, most going to stay here and hit curly for about 30 more times in about six minutes and we're never going to go there and we're never going to, that's what it is.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Well, I think I thought of this during this segment actually and then I saw that comment I think what happens in AWS sometimes they they hit on something that is, you know, remotely funny.

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[SPEAKER_07]: And then that's all the only joke they keep hitting the rest of the night.

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[SPEAKER_05]: That's what you're exactly right now.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And this is the problem, like, I mean, Roddy in this, in that interview,

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[SPEAKER_05]: He did, right?

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[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, what are we?

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[SPEAKER_05]: 18 months past the expiry date on that one?

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[SPEAKER_05]: And he's still doing it.

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[SPEAKER_05]: They, they, they were trying to ram mixed us challenged down our face again.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And I'm like, that was cute last week when they brought it up.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And they did it on the pay for you.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And that's fine.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Let it go.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Bring it back in nine months if you want.

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[SPEAKER_05]: But don't do it every week until we get sick and tired of mixed nuts challenge, you know, and or mixed nuts may hammer whatever the

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, so it's cannonball run too.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, yeah, there you go.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Hey, for now goes back.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Good.

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[SPEAKER_05]: We might need your help breaking some ties here.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Speaking of which, we'll go to the next award for now to you only missed one show of the year all in 2025.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I'm sure you agreed.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Breakout star.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I'm going to go for Jeff first.

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[SPEAKER_07]: Oh, are you great.

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[SPEAKER_07]: Can I count the Mercedes puppet?

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[SPEAKER_07]: No, this is interesting person up because I think because I think I'm doing a repeat vote here.

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[SPEAKER_07]: there's two different kinds of breakouts.

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[SPEAKER_07]: There's the breakout where you go from unknown to known and then there's a breakout where you go from known to being an absolute mega star sure.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, like I would say Dominic in WWE.

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[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, that's where you know and and being kind of.

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[SPEAKER_07]: hinted at this earlier.

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[SPEAKER_07]: There are only really two stars in AEW to me right now that can actually forward your business and expand your reach.

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[SPEAKER_07]: One of them is MJF.

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[SPEAKER_07]: The other one is my vote and that's Kyle Fletcher.

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[SPEAKER_07]: I think Kyle Fletcher is that's why I probably would have had him win this tournament.

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[SPEAKER_07]: because I think you need to belt that kid as soon as possible.

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[SPEAKER_07]: And then send his bomb basic ass with on call us and do every bit of media you can have them cut promos every week do in morning shows.

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[SPEAKER_07]: Yes, anything anything because

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[SPEAKER_07]: Well, yes, great matches.

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[SPEAKER_07]: People love them.

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[SPEAKER_07]: You want to expand your region.

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[SPEAKER_07]: We've had this question before.

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[SPEAKER_07]: Does AEW actually want to be a ratings hit?

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[SPEAKER_07]: And Paul has opined to me know that people who watch it really don't want it to be successful, which I think is a very innocent life.

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[SPEAKER_07]: What it takes.

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[SPEAKER_07]: They won't like what it takes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.

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[SPEAKER_07]: And I agree with you on that.

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[SPEAKER_07]: Because it takes.

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[SPEAKER_07]: the retail polyticking.

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[SPEAKER_07]: It takes the bomb past a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_07]: American pro wrestling fans like.

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[SPEAKER_07]: The Rick Flair, Dusty Rhodes, Rock, Austin.

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[SPEAKER_07]: It takes a little longer than life.

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[SPEAKER_05]: It kick off the show.

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[SPEAKER_07]: Well, exposition promos don't work, but you need those character driven promos.

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[SPEAKER_07]: Yes, you need characters, is what you need.

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[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_07]: And Kyle Fletcher is the same, my full name, the protostar.

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[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_07]: Kyle Fletcher is a great effing character.

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[SPEAKER_07]: My choice is Kyle.

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[SPEAKER_07]: My choice is Kyle Fletcher.

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[SPEAKER_07]: And I think that might be two years in a row for you for Kyle it is and that's what I said I said I'm repeating my vote because last year it was going from the unknown to the known this year is going from the known to be an absolute rocket ship put the rocket on him star.

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[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, I Dean.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean, just pretty much just echoing what I've had to say there, and you know, I mean, it's great that we, not to spoil the categories, but it's great that we have, we have this category, and then we also have most improved because it actually makes it easier to make this decision because I also like Jeff focus on the star aspect of breakout star.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I mean,

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[SPEAKER_03]: We're going to talk about match of the year at some point.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And we're going to talk about, I'm going to tell you talk a little bit about Osprey and Fletcher from evolution.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I will, which was rough, but I will say that watching Kyle Fletcher from his match against Osprey and the continental classic last year,

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[SPEAKER_03]: all the way to where he is today.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I can't tell you how many times I've texted Paul and said, this guy's ready to walk, this guy's ready to walk into the world title picture on SmackDown, like tomorrow.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He's a star and he's created it himself for more or less.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, being part of the Calis family is definitely helped him.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And to me, he's ready to walk into the main picture of any company and, you know, like just like Jacqueline with Jeff said, like, this guy should be in the media.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He should be doing interviews across the board.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He's, this, this is the guy.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You really should be locketed and building for the next 25 years.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_05]: All right, my pick doesn't matter, but I am going to go away from you guys and I'm going to say Tecla.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I had no idea who she was, so this is the Kyle Fletcher of last year.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I had no idea who she was.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I think I'd heard the name, but I'd never seen her.

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[SPEAKER_05]: She showed up in a W television.

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[SPEAKER_05]: She had great in her first match, and then I think her second match is kind of like.

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[SPEAKER_05]: They just booked her to go 50 50 with somebody she shouldn't have been on 50 50 with and kind of set her back a little bit, but then ever since then she's one of my highlights anytime she's on television.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I she needs to drop those those anchors sisters of sin.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Like, like, yes, they are sisters of that, but are going to go yeah, although I will say they make her look that much better, you know, could true, it's almost like she's looking at them like.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, whatever.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I'm just going to do my promo.

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[SPEAKER_05]: She's awesome.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_05]: She was even awesome in that promo.

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[SPEAKER_05]: She cut yesterday.

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[SPEAKER_05]: It was fast.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_05]: No, it was it was awesome.

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[SPEAKER_05]: She's so real.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And she's just like a badass and she reminds me of what I have always wanted Zoe Stark to be.

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[SPEAKER_05]: But she doesn't have that inner and Tecla does.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And I think they got a belt her.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I think she should be the next AEW Women's World Champion.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I don't think she's going to be, but I think she should be.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And yeah, so that's my pick.

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[SPEAKER_05]: But the AEW breakout star of the year for 2025 is Kyle Fletcher.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And Hano is maybe next year he will go take a step even further.

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[SPEAKER_04]: We'll see.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I think it's going to be Osprey, but I hope I'm wrong.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Then we got our Mercedes promo.

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[SPEAKER_05]: She just talked about putting the TBS title online tonight.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And if she would have won, she would have set the record for the most title defenses.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Ironically, Kyle Fletcher was going to set the record for most type EBS title, our TNT title defenses, as well.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And ended up losing when he lost to Mark Brisco.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So this is interesting.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And I thought as soon as she said that, I thought, you know, because I was thinking, oh, Will is probably going to win.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And then when I heard her say this, I'm like, no, they want to get Jade off that record book.

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[SPEAKER_07]: But for Nando's pick isn't that bad.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Who do you, let me see.

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[SPEAKER_07]: I'm looking at him.

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[SPEAKER_07]: And that was possibly my second choice.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I got to be honest with Paul and I discussed Bandito and I think when I when I was really making a decision, I ultimately like you Jeff focused on the star aspect.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, yeah, what what a year.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, we should talk about like what a year Bandito had.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I can read about it endlessly and I can tell you the way he was received in arena Mexico when I was there.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, he's a huge asset to the company, a huge star to the company, but the star that really like went from being, you know, this, I'm proving myself that I'm not just Will Osprey sidekick to the guy that we just saw in the half one of the most incredible months December, I think it's

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[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And then after the Mercedes promo, we got a Bandito promo.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Talking about on GF, speaking of Bandito.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And he talked about his title match in two weeks.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And he kind of promised Spanish.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And then I think Brody translated it, although he didn't say he was translating, but I think he was.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And then apparently he's next in line.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Uh, but he has big things to do right now, which confused the hell out of me because they cut the commercial and they said, when we come back, we're going to see Josh Alexander and John moxley and a title of lemonade match.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Then we got this promo and then we got like a match.

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[SPEAKER_05]: and it hadn't been advertised and they called it a stand-by match which made no sense at all and I'm wondering Did like John Mossy not show up for work and that's why you have to have a stand-up by that's right now like why do you have a stand stand-by match halfway through the show I don't like those toties like look at the rundown gun.

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[SPEAKER_07]: Oh crap.

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[SPEAKER_07]: I forgot to put the brody magic here quick

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, they mentioned on TV that it was a standby match.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I didn't catch.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, they did.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, wow.

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[SPEAKER_03]: They did.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Wow.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The only question on that is why, why would you do this?

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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't need to mention that.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And the fact is, it wasn't much of a match.

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[SPEAKER_07]: Because Mid South had, because Mid South had, had, had, had standby matches and no overrun, which is.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And you know what the funny thing about this is?

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[SPEAKER_05]: There's actually a storyline here that they didn't tell.

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[SPEAKER_05]: because Lee Johnson is tagging partners with Blake Christian.

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[SPEAKER_05]: No, and Blake Christian is feuding with Bandito in Ring of Honor.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So there is, there is a story here, but they didn't even bother talking about it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And it's better than when they like just assume that we know a story that's going on from Ring of Honor and show it to us on AWS.

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[SPEAKER_05]: This isn't a question.

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[SPEAKER_05]: This isn't one of our categories, but John's asking who's a W comeback rest of the year.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I say it's got to be Kenny Omega.

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[SPEAKER_05]: given that he almost died, and he came back and had, in my opinion, the best in-ring year of any wrestler in any company in 2025, in terms of his high-end stuff, like he only had 15 matches, but they were all awesome, like he did not have a bad match and not even anything close to a bad match.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So that's my, is there anybody else for come back

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[SPEAKER_05]: He's some people might say moxley, but that's stupid for come back of the year.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He was there all year back.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, what talk.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, it's talk.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, Kenny was there most of the year, too, but he is you're started with a big comeback.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, yeah, he's you're started literally.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, so anyway, Brody Brody destroyed Lee Johnson and that was that and then then we got a Darby promo and he basically said he went to hell with Jake Gabe kid and they did they had a bloody match and again this was another one that the fans just didn't see me react to like I expected they would for a Darby match and then he points out that he's beat everyone in the deathriders except for one which is Pock never would have guessed that so he wants Pock and we'd we'd hear more

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[SPEAKER_05]: Uh, this is a good problem.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I thought like it's building up.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Maybe we're going to get Darby and pocket the paper you I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Wait, he beat Moxley.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_05]: What came about the same thing.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Have hangmen.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He went into the connadel classic and did you turn it right?

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_05]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I get nothing else to add about any of these dumb ass segments.

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[SPEAKER_05]: We, they're very fine.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I shouldn't say that they were all fine.

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[SPEAKER_05]: They're nothing wrong with any.

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[SPEAKER_05]: They'll say they're there.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, so let's go to most improved and Adine, I'll let you start.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I have a feeling Jeff and I are going to be on the same page at this one too.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, yeah, when it comes to improved, so I, this is where I would discuss Bandito, because I mean, what are we talking about improved?

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[SPEAKER_03]: We're talking about in-ring and we're talking about overall we talking about start power, where we talking about exactly.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think he improved his standing because of how great he looked this year.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But for me, I think I'm going to look at it from the more overall perspective.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And when I think about it that way, there's only one choice, it's Harley Cameron.

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[SPEAKER_03]: What a year she has had becoming the honestly a star for them.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The incredible talents that she has that she was able to utilize to get to the position that she's in.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And we'll talk more about Harley Cameron later when we talk more about tag teams.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So for Nando agrees with you, John from Memphis agrees with you, and neither, oh no, for Nando spelled it wrong and John spelled it right.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I don't even know what universe I'm living in right now.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I'm agreeing with you guys as well.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I had hardly Cameron as my professor said you had improved.

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[SPEAKER_05]: No, but I'm going, I'm going to let Jeff go last.

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[SPEAKER_05]: But I am going, I'm going with

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[SPEAKER_05]: like a bigger personality, if that's possible, like you got to remember, the feud with Mercedes happened in this calendar year.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So that's where I think she really level up one time, and then this tag team with Willo, she's level up again, and her inring is improving every single time out.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So I think, you know, in total package, she's definitely improved.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Now, it's going to be hard hard for her to get better than she is now, I think.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Um, I don't know what her ceiling is, but um, she's gotten to a much bigger level than I thought she would.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Jeff, and I don't think we've seen her ceiling yet.

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[SPEAKER_05]: No, I just don't know how high it is.

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[SPEAKER_05]: That's all I'm seeing.

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[SPEAKER_07]: By the way, come back, rest of the year.

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[SPEAKER_07]: It should be Nigel McGinnis.

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[SPEAKER_07]: Oh, well, it was not last year.

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[SPEAKER_05]: No, he did all in last year, 2020, never got him.

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[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, yeah, uh, yeah, it's hardly.

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[SPEAKER_07]: And then it ain't even close, uh, for part of the year, it should have been Anna J.

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[SPEAKER_07]: Did her, did her, she did her, she did her excursion.

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[SPEAKER_07]: She came back and you're watching it.

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[SPEAKER_07]: You're going, wow, she's gotten a lot better.

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[SPEAKER_07]: And then they did nothing with her.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Well, no, you know why, right?

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[SPEAKER_07]: No, because her contract was up.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, and Tony thinks she's going to WWE, so you won't use her.

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[SPEAKER_07]: Well, what better way to get her never mind?

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[SPEAKER_07]: Never.

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[SPEAKER_07]: She went to go improve herself.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I know.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Get a match and then they shelve her because, well,

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[SPEAKER_05]: Actually, I think I might have been last year that she did start them, but I get your point.

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[SPEAKER_07]: I get your point.

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[SPEAKER_07]: Is my timetable that off in that everything's become a blur and wrestling?

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[SPEAKER_07]: That's possible.

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[SPEAKER_07]: I will overcome that Chrisler the year.

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[SPEAKER_07]: Hey, that's not a bad one.

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[SPEAKER_07]: That's not a bad one.

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[SPEAKER_07]: Yes, it's Harley, because Harley was just a wacky character on QTV, pretending to be a

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[SPEAKER_05]: August 2024 for, uh, Anna Jane started.

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[SPEAKER_07]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_07]: Fine.

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[SPEAKER_07]: Times of flat circle for me at this point.

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[SPEAKER_07]: Fair enough.

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[SPEAKER_07]: God.

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[SPEAKER_07]: Uh, nobody improves for the most part other than Harley.

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[SPEAKER_07]: Um.

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[SPEAKER_07]: But yeah, no, she is.

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[SPEAKER_07]: I mean, look, she is out kicked her coverage in many ways and works her ass off because she just doesn't want to be a pretty face, which is awesome to me.

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[SPEAKER_07]: Because she is one of the most entertaining and as Paul and I say weekly, she has funny bones.

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[SPEAKER_07]: She's legit funny.

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[SPEAKER_07]: uh she she can say she's talented she is everything like this man be a child after watching Harley-Cannon TV because it's like why didn't we we had why didn't we keep her um yeah no and she and now she's a member of possibly the most popular women's tag team in in that company right now which is hi Jeff it is I Harley-Cannon and I

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[SPEAKER_07]: All right, look, she's she's she's she's great.

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[SPEAKER_07]: Let's say look, I'm not saying she's EO style.

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[SPEAKER_07]: Okay, but I know she's definitely improved quite a bit and she's impressive.

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[SPEAKER_05]: If if Maxine was half as good as she is she'd be like such a big star they they wish she could be half as good as Harley's gotten.

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[SPEAKER_05]: All right, let's get back into this show.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Okay, so this was, I thought the best match on the show and, and I mean, this John Moxley and Josh Alexander, eliminated a match for the continental title.

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[SPEAKER_05]: This match was freaking great.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Josh, Josh Alexander, making a case for why he should have been in the continental classic.

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[SPEAKER_05]: The,

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[SPEAKER_05]: This was better than at least half the matches in the tournament, if not 75% of them.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And I just thought it was great.

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[SPEAKER_05]: They just beat the shit out of each other.

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[SPEAKER_05]: They went past the 15 minute mark.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And the announcers were saying that Alexander should just be stalling out the clock because he would get a title shot if he hit 20.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And he was going for the win.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And then Moxie ended up putting a choke.

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[SPEAKER_05]: uh, late in his elbows, knocked his head gear off his head and then choked him again and Alexander quit.

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[SPEAKER_05]: much like John Cena.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And then after the match, M.J.F.

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[SPEAKER_05]: and Art, not M.J.F.

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[SPEAKER_05]: MVP and Shelton Benjamin came out and they stared down John Moxley.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Seemingly, he would be the next challenger and we'd find a later that he will be.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I just, I freaking love this match.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know what you guys felt, but I'm

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[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, if the glut of the upper card wasn't so full trash Alexander should be in it because he's cut in promos that are pretty damn good and he's wrestling a style that seems a little bit more vicious like especially the Coda boo she quote unquote injury should have propelled him into a top deal and get this person in his faction I would have you I would have used that to give him a new get like much like

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[SPEAKER_07]: They gave Larry Zabisco during the dangerous alliance around the cruncher gimmick after slamming was a barrier Dustin's hand into a car.

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[SPEAKER_07]: They should have given Josh Alexander a nickname after eliminating Kota Obushi.

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[SPEAKER_07]: And we'll have helped him quite a bit.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I really liked him to destroyer, something like that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean, I agree that the match was actually great.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I feel bad that Josh Alexander, there's no spot for him higher up on the card at this point.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like I said, he's the fifth or as someone mentioned in the comments here.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He's the sixth best member of his own faction.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, I thought the match was great.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I just John Moxley, you know, from the moment he hopped over that guardrail, selling his ankle injury.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He's a flippin' professional.

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[SPEAKER_05]: That's what I can really say about that.

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[SPEAKER_05]: That was beautiful.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And I, about a month ago, maybe longer, I said I was sick of John Moxley and I'm churning a corner now.

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[SPEAKER_05]: If this becomes like the SmackDown U.S. title Open Challenge where Moxley's just gonna face a different person every week and have these killer matches, sign me up.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I'm here for it.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I'm a forbidden door.

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[SPEAKER_07]: Let's do this.

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[SPEAKER_07]: Oh, my God.

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[SPEAKER_05]: That would be so awesome.

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[SPEAKER_05]: The real forbidden door.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And before we get into the next award, I'll just mention the next things it was real quick.

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[SPEAKER_05]: It was that triangle van is promo.

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[SPEAKER_05]: We're technically kind of great promo.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And the sisters just said, just did their children of the corn, bullshit right behind her.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Oh my god

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[SPEAKER_05]: And I swear to God, she just looks at them like, what are you guys doing?

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[SPEAKER_05]: And what she's like does her problem.

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[SPEAKER_07]: I just want to take a break out the Michigan J Frog at one point.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Do you know what they said?

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[SPEAKER_05]: But it was, the tackle was awesome and they sucked.

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[SPEAKER_05]: That's all I got.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I want to see more of Tecla.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I just feel like, exactly how you just described it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Now, she got to be presented better.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It doesn't matter.

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[SPEAKER_05]: She is awesome.

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[SPEAKER_05]: That's it.

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[SPEAKER_05]: That's she's just awesome.

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[SPEAKER_05]: All right, tag team of the year and this can be tag team or trios and I'll give my pick first and this is not going to be popular and I don't think it's going to win, but I don't care because they were freaking awesome every time out and they put people over like they were supposed to I hated their story lines, but I love their matches and it's the young bucks.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I just I thought they are the the best tag team of the year in not only a w but all of professional wrestling they won't win, but that's okay.

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[SPEAKER_05]: It's my vote.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, young books made my short list.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I won't deny it.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, I think you already gave away.

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[SPEAKER_05]: You're going to vote for.

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[SPEAKER_03]: No, well, I gave away what I would talk about.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, okay, I'll talk about the cause that I think is going to be my number two, okay, but the winner for me in this category is going to be Brudito.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I just think it's because of how well they were booked and the had a great run.

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[SPEAKER_03]: They got great wins over top teams in the company.

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[SPEAKER_03]: They used unique offense to get the crowd more into their matches.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It seemed like a, you know, to me it was good, but I do want to give mention.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I was very close to choosing the babes of wrath.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Because I really, really strongly believe that even just in the short amount of time that they've been together and it's on the tournament and one of the titles, this act, in a very short amount of time feels like maybe the biggest act in a

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[SPEAKER_03]: brand new women's tag team division, and I feel like if you, you know, with this tournament and the tag team, the women's tag titles, it's like if he had told Tony Khan a year ago that the winner of the first winner, first holders of these belts, was not going to include a former AW women's world champion or a former big world champion from a different promotion.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He probably would have left it that idea, but you know what, they did it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: because this team got over organically with the crowd, with unique style in the ring, with their promo style, with their like ability.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So it was a, it's like one in one, hey, but I'm going to go with Rosino.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Um, I think chat get ready.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I think we're going to need your help, because I feel I think I know who Jessica to vote for.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And I think we're going to have a three way tie.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, Jeff's giving me a look like I'm wrong.

01:00:51.612 --> 01:00:56.000
[SPEAKER_07]: it's interesting, um, give my honorable mentions here.

01:00:56.020 --> 01:00:59.647
[SPEAKER_07]: I think FTR and the young bucks were both great this year.

01:01:00.047 --> 01:01:02.432
[SPEAKER_05]: Okay, so that was that's what you're going to go with.

01:01:02.452 --> 01:01:03.754
[SPEAKER_07]: I thought you're going to have to be with.

01:01:04.215 --> 01:01:10.586
[SPEAKER_07]: I figured you would and I came very close to it, but I also realized I have to be fair and called balls and strikes.

01:01:10.606 --> 01:01:13.131
[SPEAKER_07]: I almost also said the hurts indicate.

01:01:13.887 --> 01:01:15.609
[SPEAKER_04]: We talked about the hurt.

01:01:15.629 --> 01:01:18.892
[SPEAKER_07]: He had a really good year as a team.

01:01:18.973 --> 01:01:23.377
[SPEAKER_07]: And they just bring an aura, a bad acery that I just love.

01:01:23.397 --> 01:01:24.479
[SPEAKER_05]: But he's okay.

01:01:24.499 --> 01:01:25.500
[SPEAKER_05]: He's voting for the acclaimed.

01:01:25.720 --> 01:01:28.403
[SPEAKER_07]: Everyone.

01:01:28.423 --> 01:01:36.231
[SPEAKER_07]: He helped run this obviously, yeah, I was Bro Dito and I didn't think they were going to win that dopey tournament.

01:01:36.251 --> 01:01:37.613
[SPEAKER_07]: That shocked the hell out of me, too.

01:01:37.653 --> 01:01:39.675
[SPEAKER_07]: And I never thought they were going to give them the belts.

01:01:40.364 --> 01:01:47.590
[SPEAKER_07]: And they got over with the crowd and the, they eventually, well, once they got rid of that stupid macaroni shit.

01:01:48.110 --> 01:01:50.052
[SPEAKER_07]: they were out of a team, I thought.

01:01:50.512 --> 01:01:53.935
[SPEAKER_07]: And yeah, so I'm going with Bro Dito, nothing further here on her.

01:01:54.216 --> 01:02:07.748
[SPEAKER_03]: And just to note, for me, I'm like the Hertz and the kids, you guys are talking about, I mean, I really liked the work that the Hertz and the kid did this year, but to me, it felt like they just, for most of the division, they just kind of steam rolled through them.

01:02:08.269 --> 01:02:10.571
[SPEAKER_03]: Also, I don't feel like we really saw them.

01:02:10.611 --> 01:02:15.295
[SPEAKER_03]: It matches against huge star tag teams.

01:02:15.316 --> 01:02:17.998
[SPEAKER_03]: We never saw them against the young bucks, for example.

01:02:17.978 --> 01:02:28.157
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, we never saw them against huge star tag teams in the company because, you know, the goal is that they hurt people, they can't really swallow every team that they face.

01:02:28.577 --> 01:02:36.612
[SPEAKER_03]: So that also hurt every other team in the division, in my opinion, and made them less, made me less interested in choosing them.

01:02:36.845 --> 01:02:55.343
[SPEAKER_05]: And you know, you know, in a way it was kind of like moxley having the world title, like to where they had the belt's hostage and and it just so happened that those were both going out at the same time, which kind of amplified each other and there was the perception out there that they didn't want to lose as well, which, which probably hurt them.

01:02:55.610 --> 01:03:24.300
[SPEAKER_05]: it definitely like I thought sometimes like having good matches and then that's certainly the most important thing you know I know Jeff probably agrees with the on that one no and and just to follow up on the FTR thing I mean they they got rejuvenated with stoke so yeah I mean that they as a heal team have really done youngins work I think over on collision or nobody watches it yeah yeah that is true they they are definitely the backbone of that division ever since punk was there honestly

01:03:25.107 --> 01:03:47.892
[SPEAKER_05]: uh... all right next up was ricochet and jack parry for the national title now i will say i thought in my opinion only i i wouldn't even say this applied to the crowd because i think the crowd was into this at times are they really into like you know calling ricochet bald and stuff but um... well i'm watching this match and it came right after that john moxie josh al vandermatch and it just to me

01:03:47.872 --> 01:04:14.976
[SPEAKER_05]: It just looked so fake like I just I couldn't get into it because it I was just so into that last match and I'm trying to watch this just with my you know like trying to be objective and you know and I think I have given it like three and a half stars which is you know that's that's a good match and it was fine like did everything right they didn't screw in thing up but it just it looked more like a choreographed wrestling routine that a fight.

01:04:14.956 --> 01:04:17.280
[SPEAKER_05]: and that was that.

01:04:17.420 --> 01:04:30.459
[SPEAKER_05]: And then they did a story line in here where one of the gates of agony guys took out Luchessaurus and so he wasn't around for the match and then after the match they came out and they basically did an injury angle, I think.

01:04:31.040 --> 01:04:37.470
[SPEAKER_05]: They basically took them out and they didn't say anything but my assumption is that we're not to see Luchessaurus for a while.

01:04:39.070 --> 01:04:44.389
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I thought I read somewhere that there was a report that he's going to be out for at least.

01:04:44.569 --> 01:04:45.733
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, there you go.

01:04:46.396 --> 01:04:47.419
[SPEAKER_05]: Let me go.

01:04:47.520 --> 01:04:51.072
[SPEAKER_05]: Anybody else, have any of you add on this one?

01:04:51.119 --> 01:04:58.090
[SPEAKER_07]: Now, it's guys work what decently together, but I had to keep an alien put Toa Leonas as his most improved.

01:04:58.171 --> 01:04:59.353
[SPEAKER_07]: I won't fight him on that.

01:05:00.454 --> 01:05:01.636
[SPEAKER_05]: That's yeah, that's not bad.

01:05:01.857 --> 01:05:02.398
[SPEAKER_05]: That's not bad.

01:05:03.019 --> 01:05:04.060
[SPEAKER_05]: I do like Toa Leonas.

01:05:04.481 --> 01:05:14.798
[SPEAKER_05]: I think like if he was a singles guy, like he could be like another Tecla where, you know, I feel like he would just be like cut in these promels that I would just be super into and they wouldn't go anywhere.

01:05:14.778 --> 01:05:18.383
[SPEAKER_05]: You know, I think he's yeah, he's got definitely got a lot of potential.

01:05:18.404 --> 01:05:24.593
[SPEAKER_05]: I think he'd be like massive in WWE But he's just where he is and he's you know, he's doing better.

01:05:24.613 --> 01:05:38.334
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, like you said the demand is I think it's been good for all three of them On to a certain level like the thing is and don't kid yourself Ricochet is no further up the card than he wasn't WWE But he is way more entertaining and he's got a lot of fun.

01:05:38.354 --> 01:05:41.038
[SPEAKER_07]: He's more interesting as a leader of a faction

01:05:41.018 --> 01:05:43.642
[SPEAKER_07]: He finally got some personality to go with this.

01:05:43.682 --> 01:05:44.363
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

01:05:44.784 --> 01:05:45.205
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

01:05:45.225 --> 01:05:51.555
[SPEAKER_05]: See, the thing is, though, his personality stands out in a W, where it's his wrestling doesn't in WWE is exact opposite.

01:05:51.835 --> 01:05:54.219
[SPEAKER_05]: His wrestling stood out because nobody could wrestle like him.

01:05:54.960 --> 01:05:56.102
[SPEAKER_05]: And well, very few.

01:05:56.262 --> 01:05:58.286
[SPEAKER_05]: There's something that could put.

01:05:58.306 --> 01:06:05.457
[SPEAKER_05]: All right, the next category and I'll go first just because this is the one that I was having a hard time with.

01:06:05.555 --> 01:06:29.166
[SPEAKER_05]: Um, and it was moment of the year and I think we were talking before the show because I was still feeling on my ballot and I had everything else filled out but I couldn't come up with something for this one and there's one I kept wanting to use and I wasn't going to use it and I finally do and I did say that there's no negative awards and this I'm not necessarily saying this is a negative thing.

01:06:29.956 --> 01:06:43.324
[SPEAKER_05]: But my moment of the year and the reason I chose it is because I was I'm watching this thing and it I mean to the fans that were watching it, they were like super into it.

01:06:43.507 --> 01:07:03.574
[SPEAKER_05]: but I'm watching this completely baffled and not I'm like what the hell is going on as I'm watching this promo as it kept going and it's moxley's promo after winning the continental classic I think this this this is the moment of the year in a w it's summed up the year in general it's like

01:07:03.959 --> 01:07:07.324
[SPEAKER_05]: But what the hell did we just watch for the last 12 months?

01:07:07.344 --> 01:07:09.628
[SPEAKER_05]: That's kind of where I was at with this promo.

01:07:10.029 --> 01:07:12.052
[SPEAKER_05]: That said, the promo was great.

01:07:12.753 --> 01:07:20.225
[SPEAKER_05]: The fans were super into it, but it made this all over your promo of the year, by the way, or no, no, no, exciting.

01:07:20.305 --> 01:07:25.033
[SPEAKER_05]: I picked more of like an actual person as opposed to a single promo.

01:07:25.133 --> 01:07:29.680
[SPEAKER_05]: But yeah, so my moment of the year is Moxie's promo after winning the Continental Class.

01:07:31.178 --> 01:07:36.744
[SPEAKER_05]: I was, you know, it's choosing between that and hangman, winning the title and the problem is hangman, winning the title.

01:07:36.764 --> 01:07:38.286
[SPEAKER_05]: It's like the John Cena heel turn.

01:07:38.666 --> 01:07:40.648
[SPEAKER_05]: It's like, it's because of what happened after it.

01:07:41.950 --> 01:07:46.755
[SPEAKER_07]: So Jeff, it's the hangman title when.

01:07:47.315 --> 01:07:50.198
[SPEAKER_07]: Okay, it's also for the negative ramifications of it.

01:07:50.679 --> 01:07:53.622
[SPEAKER_07]: Okay, because everybody thought this is the clean break.

01:07:54.383 --> 01:07:56.325
[SPEAKER_07]: Gonna be done with the death writers.

01:07:57.166 --> 01:08:06.740
[SPEAKER_07]: We're going to hang man's finally going to get a second title run and this time, this time, hang man's going to be the star that we all know he is.

01:08:08.243 --> 01:08:12.910
[SPEAKER_07]: And then he's had, there's been two people holding this title since.

01:08:13.591 --> 01:08:26.430
[SPEAKER_07]: Do you remember, apple by the, I am baffled by this because this was a long-term story where the payoff was everything we wanted and then they just decided,

01:08:26.630 --> 01:08:27.653
[SPEAKER_05]: on all of it.

01:08:27.933 --> 01:08:32.826
[SPEAKER_05]: Do you remember what Moxley said in his first promo after hangman beat him?

01:08:34.089 --> 01:08:35.894
[SPEAKER_05]: Doesn't matter, wins the process.

01:08:36.254 --> 01:08:37.578
[SPEAKER_05]: What doesn't matter, wins it.

01:08:37.598 --> 01:08:38.360
[SPEAKER_05]: It's just a belt.

01:08:39.182 --> 01:08:40.987
[SPEAKER_06]: Yes.

01:08:41.428 --> 01:08:44.335
[SPEAKER_06]: And I watched that.

01:08:44.753 --> 01:09:06.863
[SPEAKER_07]: And my jaw dropped and I would I have to do a show about this and for Nando's gonna kill me for saying yeah, but it's it's the moment and now for none of the green with you it turns out oh my god cats and dogs living together mass hysteria

01:09:06.843 --> 01:09:09.087
[SPEAKER_07]: Fernando agrees with me on something.

01:09:09.127 --> 01:09:10.630
[SPEAKER_07]: No, it's the moment of the year.

01:09:10.690 --> 01:09:11.651
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:09:11.671 --> 01:09:17.562
[SPEAKER_07]: And then it's it much like the John Cena heel turn, which you nail it was such a lost opportunity.

01:09:18.163 --> 01:09:21.008
[SPEAKER_07]: And that's the reason it also makes it the moment of the year.

01:09:21.068 --> 01:09:24.173
[SPEAKER_07]: It's a double edged sword moment of the year.

01:09:24.193 --> 01:09:27.940
[SPEAKER_05]: Kind of like when James McDaniel years ago, picked.

01:09:28.072 --> 01:09:33.062
[SPEAKER_05]: Cody debuting at WrestleMania as the HW involvement of the year.

01:09:33.804 --> 01:09:35.828
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, it was like that.

01:09:35.868 --> 01:09:40.477
[SPEAKER_05]: That was when they just down the hill.

01:09:40.498 --> 01:09:43.684
[SPEAKER_05]: Okay, Dean, I think you're going to you're going to go with Jeff here.

01:09:43.664 --> 01:10:12.895
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, the thing is, Jeff is right, but the problem is, is that what took place, what we saw over the last two months in this company, really sours that moment for me, I looked at this category from two perspectives, because as you mentioned, I do go to a lot of shows, and I was fortunate to see you.

01:10:13.921 --> 01:10:20.653
[SPEAKER_03]: So I look at it both from like moment of the company and like always my personal moment that I experienced at a day of your life shows here.

01:10:20.673 --> 01:10:24.299
[SPEAKER_03]: So I'm going to talk about Arita Mexico, I'm going to talk about Grand Slave Mexico.

01:10:24.339 --> 01:10:26.303
[SPEAKER_03]: There are two moments that really stood out.

01:10:26.403 --> 01:10:35.980
[SPEAKER_03]: One is an obvious one, which was the Mystico entrance, which I don't really, I don't really remember seeing it back on TV, but in the building, this was, I've been to many shows.

01:10:35.960 --> 01:10:39.626
[SPEAKER_03]: This was one of the biggest reactions I've ever seen in a W show.

01:10:40.147 --> 01:10:46.238
[SPEAKER_03]: People taking out lighters, and even though you can bring that stuff into a arena Mexico, so full lights, lighters, all kinds of stuff.

01:10:46.919 --> 01:10:50.765
[SPEAKER_03]: People just standing crying for the song, it was one moment.

01:10:51.146 --> 01:10:53.530
[SPEAKER_03]: But then also from the same show.

01:10:54.320 --> 01:10:59.653
[SPEAKER_03]: Hangman Adam Page's full Spanish promo that opened the show, okay?

01:10:59.673 --> 01:10:59.974
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

01:10:59.994 --> 01:11:07.693
[SPEAKER_03]: So, you know, to this day, I mean, I'm baffled that that's what they decided to do on TBS on a UW programming.

01:11:09.036 --> 01:11:09.898
[SPEAKER_03]: But,

01:11:09.878 --> 01:11:11.561
[SPEAKER_03]: the reaction in that building.

01:11:11.581 --> 01:11:13.725
[SPEAKER_03]: I can't even get to describe it.

01:11:13.745 --> 01:11:20.497
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like one of the biggest reactions to just a one guy talking to a crowd I've seen since some of the biggest stars at WWE.

01:11:21.278 --> 01:11:25.546
[SPEAKER_03]: And that to me is a huge, huge, huge, huge moment for the company.

01:11:25.946 --> 01:11:28.291
[SPEAKER_03]: Company steps on Mexican soil for the first time.

01:11:28.351 --> 01:11:31.937
[SPEAKER_03]: They bring out the guy that they're pushing to the top who

01:11:31.917 --> 01:11:39.908
[SPEAKER_03]: Jeff argues that it was a part of a different moment to the year and he comes out and nobody expected him to do that.

01:11:40.529 --> 01:11:47.478
[SPEAKER_03]: But little by little the crowd just gets into it and more into it, more into it and he, he looks like the biggest star in the company for the night.

01:11:47.498 --> 01:11:50.522
[SPEAKER_07]: Oh, I didn't, I mean, you were, I watched that.

01:11:50.582 --> 01:11:53.667
[SPEAKER_07]: I remember, I remember the show afterwards.

01:11:53.707 --> 01:11:56.170
[SPEAKER_07]: I know, maybe there's something here.

01:11:56.268 --> 01:12:01.421
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I really couldn't have promo and yeah, and he has had a couple moments like that.

01:12:01.721 --> 01:12:05.450
[SPEAKER_05]: Come back and said that and then they just it's the book.

01:12:06.393 --> 01:12:11.505
[SPEAKER_05]: It's it's, you know, like I just think that Tony doesn't see hangman as that guy.

01:12:12.207 --> 01:12:13.129
[SPEAKER_05]: Unfortunately.

01:12:13.868 --> 01:12:15.230
[SPEAKER_05]: Um, and he definitely sees them.

01:12:15.250 --> 01:12:16.071
[SPEAKER_05]: Jeff is that guy.

01:12:16.372 --> 01:12:17.233
[SPEAKER_07]: I will disagree.

01:12:17.414 --> 01:12:22.742
[SPEAKER_07]: I think he sees giving him the top belt as enough to, well, he's a star now.

01:12:23.082 --> 01:12:24.364
[SPEAKER_07]: And then, and then they go with that.

01:12:24.404 --> 01:12:26.988
[SPEAKER_07]: And they don't want to do the other things.

01:12:27.009 --> 01:12:29.352
[SPEAKER_07]: And I think Hangman is also a little bit part of that.

01:12:29.512 --> 01:12:32.758
[SPEAKER_07]: It was like, I don't think Hangman, but you like, is going out there and do promos.

01:12:32.818 --> 01:12:34.901
[SPEAKER_07]: I think he likes going out there and doing wrestling matches.

01:12:35.221 --> 01:12:37.705
[SPEAKER_07]: I think he's kind of like Tony's sting.

01:12:38.947 --> 01:12:40.770
[SPEAKER_07]: Like he's like the foul.

01:12:41.527 --> 01:12:42.408
[SPEAKER_07]: Am I as good?

01:12:42.989 --> 01:12:44.110
[SPEAKER_07]: No, that's really good.

01:12:44.150 --> 01:12:45.091
[SPEAKER_07]: That's great.

01:12:45.111 --> 01:12:47.374
[SPEAKER_07]: Like WCWStay is what he did.

01:12:47.834 --> 01:12:53.621
[SPEAKER_03]: And you know what's interesting about talking about the Hangman promo in Rio de Mexico, it's like, you know, I always thought he was a big star to the company.

01:12:53.641 --> 01:12:55.463
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, not the biggest star, maybe not the top three.

01:12:55.943 --> 01:13:02.951
[SPEAKER_03]: But I never thought of him as somebody that they would try out there in a moment like that to be like the ambassador for the company.

01:13:03.272 --> 01:13:05.374
[SPEAKER_03]: And here he goes out there.

01:13:05.354 --> 01:13:21.108
[SPEAKER_05]: fully looking like the ambassador, the company, international ambassador, the company, and he made a splash and it really worked well on that night too because MJF was so hated and they are like the classic two rivals so it worked on that level as well.

01:13:21.829 --> 01:13:24.512
[SPEAKER_03]: So what was your moment of the year?

01:13:24.532 --> 01:13:34.821
[SPEAKER_03]: So I guess I'm going to just go with the company, the overall company one, and I'm going to have

01:13:34.801 --> 01:13:44.713
[SPEAKER_03]: Moxley's promo after world's end encapsulated everything he was trying to quote a quote trying to explain to us the whole time.

01:13:45.174 --> 01:13:55.687
[SPEAKER_03]: Like whatever the idea is he is trying to explain to us that this is what he was trying to do the whole time and that he actually loves the company.

01:13:56.087 --> 01:13:57.329
[SPEAKER_03]: He actually loves the titles.

01:13:57.649 --> 01:14:00.893
[SPEAKER_03]: He actually loves the fans and he loved them the whole time.

01:14:01.126 --> 01:14:01.687
[SPEAKER_03]: That's true.

01:14:01.727 --> 01:14:02.268
[SPEAKER_05]: We're there.

01:14:02.288 --> 01:14:05.372
[SPEAKER_05]: He now he always said he loved the company.

01:14:06.154 --> 01:14:07.896
[SPEAKER_05]: He always said he was like that.

01:14:08.217 --> 01:14:14.486
[SPEAKER_05]: This was the place where wrestlers could come and wrestle and they didn't have to deal with bullshit and blah blah.

01:14:14.586 --> 01:14:18.051
[SPEAKER_05]: He wasn't always for the fans and he definitely wasn't always about these belts.

01:14:19.373 --> 01:14:22.137
[SPEAKER_07]: But you know, private party should break his hand.

01:14:23.399 --> 01:14:23.860
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

01:14:24.464 --> 01:14:26.107
[SPEAKER_05]: hangman should break his head.

01:14:26.167 --> 01:14:28.411
[SPEAKER_05]: Um, but yeah.

01:14:28.431 --> 01:14:29.753
[SPEAKER_03]: So I'm going to go with you on that.

01:14:29.813 --> 01:14:35.162
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to say that the moxley's promo from world then probably the most of the year, whatever they were trying to go for there.

01:14:35.182 --> 01:14:36.885
[SPEAKER_05]: And John agrees with us.

01:14:37.185 --> 01:14:37.807
[SPEAKER_05]: So there you go.

01:14:37.847 --> 01:14:41.072
[SPEAKER_05]: But Jeff's pick was obviously good as well.

01:14:41.052 --> 01:15:03.118
[SPEAKER_05]: Um, and then we got another, uh, so we got a Death Riders promo and moxley basically kind of promo on Shelton and the hurt business, uh, told him he's easy to find, uh, told them that at the beginning of the year, they were out there doing their business and, uh, but basically basically, basically said he was going to have a match with Shelton and they announced it shortly after this.

01:15:03.599 --> 01:15:06.963
[SPEAKER_05]: Then we were, uh, said Darby, you want to get Pock?

01:15:06.983 --> 01:15:08.865
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, first you

01:15:08.845 --> 01:15:25.352
[SPEAKER_05]: Danny Garcia said his deathriders versus the world, which Moxie had also said in his part of the promo as well and think he had that on his jacket, so maybe that's the idea, I think the idea is going to be that these guys are tweeners and we'll see how that goes.

01:15:25.906 --> 01:15:55.238
[SPEAKER_05]: uh... and then we got a willow and Harley uh... promo and and this was great Harley was just pumping her up uh... she will point it out that she had been over five hundred days without the title and uh... she's promising to end the year in a big way and then we got an mjf promo and this is funny because he starts talking about all the different guys coming after his title he mentions swirf he mentions hangman he mentions joe he mentions omega

01:15:56.433 --> 01:16:12.906
[SPEAKER_05]: he didn't mention the guy he's wrestling in two weeks and then the guy that he's wrestling in two weeks shows up and like literally before I could even write it down on my notes and this is where I thought you know what this is part of the story uh bandito is motivated by the fact that he's being overlooked

01:16:12.987 --> 01:16:34.730
[SPEAKER_05]: And, but I do think that Brody's going to end up causing the match, but I do like the fact that there's so many different guys after this title and that MJF is clearly the focus of everyone in the company other than Moxley, you know, who is in a different planet, but he's also not wrestling the top guys, which is fine.

01:16:35.291 --> 01:16:38.414
[SPEAKER_05]: He's wrestling the upper midcarders, which is what that belt is.

01:16:38.574 --> 01:16:39.315
[SPEAKER_05]: So.

01:16:39.397 --> 01:16:45.910
[SPEAKER_05]: Jeff, would you think about anything stand out on these like three promo segments back to the back?

01:16:46.912 --> 01:16:47.494
[SPEAKER_07]: No, not really.

01:16:47.554 --> 01:16:48.816
[SPEAKER_07]: I mean, you covered it all.

01:16:48.836 --> 01:16:49.618
[SPEAKER_07]: They were all pretty good.

01:16:50.380 --> 01:16:50.660
[SPEAKER_07]: Okay.

01:16:51.181 --> 01:16:51.422
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

01:16:51.442 --> 01:16:52.724
[SPEAKER_03]: And we like this stuff, right?

01:16:53.346 --> 01:16:53.766
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

01:16:53.787 --> 01:16:55.009
[SPEAKER_07]: No, promo's help.

01:16:55.124 --> 01:16:56.747
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, perplexes from this are great.

01:16:57.048 --> 01:16:58.491
[SPEAKER_03]: Don't know where they're going with the death riders.

01:16:59.393 --> 01:17:05.425
[SPEAKER_07]: I just, yeah, I just want someone to turn the Daniel Garcia to go shut the fuck up, Donnie.

01:17:05.986 --> 01:17:10.696
[SPEAKER_07]: You know, because he's just like, he has an earned anything in the death riders.

01:17:10.736 --> 01:17:16.508
[SPEAKER_07]: He's still like a geek who gets beat every time he's a death rider and it's like,

01:17:17.146 --> 01:17:19.229
[SPEAKER_05]: Just, let me ask you, let me guys ask you this.

01:17:20.431 --> 01:17:22.935
[SPEAKER_05]: Who do you think, if you had to pick right now?

01:17:23.436 --> 01:17:30.086
[SPEAKER_05]: Who will dethrone John Moxley as Continental Champion or will he hold it until the next tournament?

01:17:30.106 --> 01:17:34.212
[SPEAKER_05]: And I have an answer for that, but I'm curious to what both of you guys think, Nadine.

01:17:36.275 --> 01:17:36.636
[SPEAKER_04]: Wow.

01:17:38.799 --> 01:17:40.542
[SPEAKER_02]: No, I think he's gonna lose it at some point.

01:17:40.562 --> 01:17:43.847
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think he'll carry it all the way to the next Continental Classic.

01:17:44.368 --> 01:17:45.229
[SPEAKER_02]: But,

01:17:46.778 --> 01:17:48.250
[SPEAKER_05]: I think the pick is obvious.

01:17:49.399 --> 01:17:50.044
[SPEAKER_05]: Let's hear it then.

01:17:51.637 --> 01:17:52.080
[SPEAKER_05]: Claudia.

01:17:54.895 --> 01:17:57.278
[SPEAKER_05]: He beat him in the tournament.

01:17:57.979 --> 01:18:02.825
[SPEAKER_05]: I think he's going to look at all these different guys getting these shots and he's going to get more and more pissed off every week.

01:18:03.466 --> 01:18:04.927
[SPEAKER_05]: And then eventually he's going to want his shot.

01:18:04.967 --> 01:18:06.549
[SPEAKER_05]: He's got point out the beat him in the tournament.

01:18:06.669 --> 01:18:17.263
[SPEAKER_03]: I didn't know this is in the show last night, but supposedly there was something that the camera caught Claudio like looking back at the ring kind of weirdly teasing, tensly teasing a little something.

01:18:17.303 --> 01:18:17.663
[SPEAKER_03]: So

01:18:17.643 --> 01:18:40.326
[SPEAKER_03]: you know he was looking at the ring and I couldn't figure out what that was about so I think you're right but you know we're we're starting that tease I don't know how long they have a story arc that's going to be and I don't know how long they're going to want moxley to hold onto this belt so it's yeah I mean we could be looking at it all in thing uh Jeff what did you have any thoughts on that before we move on uh my answer was going to be oh kata

01:18:40.424 --> 01:18:45.251
[SPEAKER_07]: Oh, okay, okay, and just give it back to him, but there's a there's a part of me that thing.

01:18:45.271 --> 01:18:53.662
[SPEAKER_07]: So, well, maybe Ocada loses to Moxley once they get their one on one and maybe to catch that actually succeeds and then leaves the Calis family that way.

01:18:53.762 --> 01:18:56.166
[SPEAKER_05]: Or Ocada, like gets bummed like we were saying.

01:18:56.586 --> 01:18:58.949
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I think if Ocada loses, it's kind of Hashi, he's done.

01:18:59.771 --> 01:19:08.102
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I think Halis is because you got to remember in that

01:19:08.774 --> 01:19:14.600
[SPEAKER_05]: Okada used a screwdriver that was hidden in the turnbuckles, and he used it to beat Takeshta.

01:19:15.061 --> 01:19:23.850
[SPEAKER_05]: Meanwhile, that screwdriver had been put there by Callis, so that Kyle Fletcher could use it against John Moxley, and then Kyle Fletcher ended up losing.

01:19:24.230 --> 01:19:34.461
[SPEAKER_05]: So not only did Okada cost Takeshta, he also cost Fletcher, and then he goes and loses to Moxley, Callis is going to be pissed.

01:19:34.441 --> 01:19:35.682
[SPEAKER_03]: about all this.

01:19:35.722 --> 01:19:40.487
[SPEAKER_03]: And one of the angles that I can see this going with the death writers is the death writers versus the cows family.

01:19:40.527 --> 01:19:41.248
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

01:19:41.268 --> 01:19:57.644
[SPEAKER_03]: And so what I could see, you know, well, obviously right now, but where I could see that is maybe, you know, the answer to your question is maybe someone else could be OK to be, but maybe somebody else from the cows family gets the belt off of Moxley in a way that Claudia maybe kind of screws him.

01:19:58.245 --> 01:20:02.389
[SPEAKER_03]: And that and that will ignite the feud between

01:20:02.369 --> 01:20:05.499
[SPEAKER_07]: Well, allow me this flashback real quick.

01:20:07.364 --> 01:20:16.412
[SPEAKER_07]: Oh, Brian Alver, as was exactly right about stupid the screwdriver thing was in this quote unquote pure wrestling tournament where there's no outside interference.

01:20:17.658 --> 01:20:27.976
[SPEAKER_07]: I'm sorry, are we going to keep it pure or are we going to just kind of go back and forth on certain rules and stuff like that because if we can have screw jobs and stuff, why don't we just have outside interference too?

01:20:28.237 --> 01:20:34.468
[SPEAKER_05]: If there's one thing people want in the continental classic, it's no screwdrivers.

01:20:34.448 --> 01:20:41.937
[SPEAKER_07]: Well, people should be fired for using that stuff if you're going to fire people for doing outside interference, isn't it?

01:20:42.637 --> 01:20:43.438
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

01:20:43.979 --> 01:20:44.299
[SPEAKER_05]: All right.

01:20:44.940 --> 01:20:46.201
[SPEAKER_05]: Let's get to our next award.

01:20:46.742 --> 01:20:49.445
[SPEAKER_05]: And it is the promo of the year.

01:20:49.485 --> 01:20:53.930
[SPEAKER_05]: Now, I did say that you could pick a singular promo or just a person in general.

01:20:54.491 --> 01:20:55.872
[SPEAKER_05]: And I saw some interest.

01:20:55.892 --> 01:21:00.878
[SPEAKER_05]: We had someone in the discord mentioned the Will Osprey Go Home promo.

01:21:00.858 --> 01:21:02.841
[SPEAKER_05]: for Revolut or for all in.

01:21:03.042 --> 01:21:05.165
[SPEAKER_05]: That was his promo the year.

01:21:05.666 --> 01:21:07.469
[SPEAKER_05]: And I thought that was a great promo.

01:21:07.509 --> 01:21:18.647
[SPEAKER_05]: If you're going with a single promo, but my pick for promo the year, the best promo just for a person, I'm going with Kyle Fletcher.

01:21:18.880 --> 01:21:29.120
[SPEAKER_05]: I just thought every time he delivered, he is so good at playing his character and not trying to get the fans to cheer him.

01:21:30.522 --> 01:21:35.151
[SPEAKER_05]: And interacting with the fans as well in a way that's not distracting.

01:21:35.131 --> 01:21:48.211
[SPEAKER_05]: I just think this guy is great and, you know, he's got a manager that does some talking for him, but it's more like a Bobby Hien and Nick Bocquinkle kind of thing where either one of them can get the promo JG Dylan Rick Flair like that sort of relationship.

01:21:48.411 --> 01:21:51.576
[SPEAKER_05]: I think Jeff, you brought up Gino Hernandez and Gary Hart.

01:21:51.956 --> 01:21:54.460
[SPEAKER_05]: Is that or totally blankering Gary Hart or something?

01:21:54.821 --> 01:21:55.301
[SPEAKER_05]: Can I read you?

01:21:55.402 --> 01:21:59.708
[SPEAKER_05]: You brought up one of the old school ones as a comparison point with these things I thought.

01:21:59.748 --> 01:22:01.611
[SPEAKER_05]: Maybe I'm maybe I'm remembering wrong.

01:22:01.861 --> 01:22:05.908
[SPEAKER_05]: Um, I, I, uh, co-fletcher for me, uh, Jeff, what do you think?

01:22:06.289 --> 01:22:06.990
[SPEAKER_05]: What's your pick?

01:22:08.192 --> 01:22:17.829
[SPEAKER_07]: Honorable mention to Kylo Riley and his promo before Moxley, because that thing, yeah, work he ever did, but I also picked Kyle Fletcher and I picked him for a specific promo.

01:22:17.849 --> 01:22:18.169
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

01:22:18.710 --> 01:22:21.355
[SPEAKER_07]: I picked him for the Hangman contract signing.

01:22:21.959 --> 01:22:34.356
[SPEAKER_07]: or he just looks at Hangman and goes, you could have asked for any stipulation you wanted, and I would have given it to you, because I'm going to go in there, I'm going to beat you anyways, because I'm better than you.

01:22:34.636 --> 01:22:50.278
[SPEAKER_07]: I just went, oh, my wrestling boner just came up, I just went, this is what, because too often we get cowardly heels, and I just, I've been waiting for the confident heel

01:22:50.798 --> 01:23:00.908
[SPEAKER_07]: who knows he's good and knows he's going to get beat up, but doesn't care because he's so confident that he'll still overcome.

01:23:01.009 --> 01:23:04.212
[SPEAKER_07]: I mean, there's a little bit of like Joe's always good.

01:23:04.232 --> 01:23:15.483
[SPEAKER_07]: I can, I can promote Joe every day and twice on Sunday, but just that singular promo made Kyle Fletcher in the suit, sure he needs socks.

01:23:15.584 --> 01:23:19.928
[SPEAKER_07]: I get that, but just looking like a million bucks

01:23:20.330 --> 01:23:31.199
[SPEAKER_07]: Not bombastic, just looking at the hangman and page and going, you could have asked for anything you wanted and I would have said yes, because I just wanted this match, I just go, oh, that's good.

01:23:31.239 --> 01:23:34.508
[SPEAKER_07]: That's my moment again.

01:23:35.332 --> 01:23:59.787
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean, in the same vein that we're talking about Kyle Fletcher, and Paul and I were talking about this earlier, you could you could also say Don Callis, and I mean look at well as a person saying that particular promo, but as a person, you know, you can look at how he's brought up all these guys to catch the head to Sarah, but how he promotes these guys.

01:23:59.767 --> 01:24:04.460
[SPEAKER_03]: you know, backstage segments in the arena on on air commentary.

01:24:06.024 --> 01:24:10.035
[SPEAKER_03]: He's great promo and nuclear hate obviously for him.

01:24:11.499 --> 01:24:14.788
[SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, you know, for me, I think

01:24:14.768 --> 01:24:22.917
[SPEAKER_03]: singular promo of the year, you're not, you're not if you will agree with me on it would be the MJF's return promo from just a few weeks ago.

01:24:23.558 --> 01:24:31.186
[SPEAKER_03]: And I know it got a lot of heat, I know a lot of people didn't really like it because of the burial that it did for sort of and hang then as top stars.

01:24:31.927 --> 01:24:34.210
[SPEAKER_03]: But why do I like it so much?

01:24:34.290 --> 01:24:39.055
[SPEAKER_03]: Because when that promo was over, what did you think of MJF?

01:24:39.035 --> 01:24:54.778
[SPEAKER_03]: you thought that he was far above beyond everybody else in the company and that he is the star that you're going to push forward into your biggest shows and as we're into the future negotiating contracts with cable companies, streaming companies.

01:24:55.339 --> 01:24:59.305
[SPEAKER_03]: And because of that, I know a lot people didn't like it because you know, but

01:24:59.285 --> 01:25:00.448
[SPEAKER_03]: Because people are wrong.

01:25:00.608 --> 01:25:01.651
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, people are wrong.

01:25:01.691 --> 01:25:02.613
[SPEAKER_03]: If you have to have.

01:25:02.713 --> 01:25:03.134
[SPEAKER_03]: I agree with you.

01:25:03.154 --> 01:25:03.856
[SPEAKER_03]: It was funny.

01:25:04.076 --> 01:25:04.557
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, exactly.

01:25:04.658 --> 01:25:06.783
[SPEAKER_03]: And I, I, again, I know a lot of people didn't like it.

01:25:06.803 --> 01:25:13.338
[SPEAKER_03]: But the fact is, like, when you're focusing on that aspect of the business, that promo must need it to happen in that regard.

01:25:13.699 --> 01:25:14.661
[SPEAKER_07]: God, yes.

01:25:14.641 --> 01:25:25.856
[SPEAKER_03]: So singular promo of the year would have to be to me that promo, but I'm going to look at this category from singular person throughout through the whole year, and I'm going to agree across the board with you guys with Kyle Fletcher.

01:25:25.996 --> 01:25:38.472
[SPEAKER_03]: Man, nobody's sold himself this entire year for big matches post Matt, you know, you've he never, his promo is kept him relevant even after he had to take a shitty loss.

01:25:38.452 --> 01:25:42.239
[SPEAKER_03]: And he is his ability to keep himself real of it with Don Callis.

01:25:43.762 --> 01:25:46.387
[SPEAKER_03]: His promo skills kept him way up there.

01:25:46.407 --> 01:25:50.835
[SPEAKER_03]: And that's, you know, part of why he's also breakouts, though, or the year.

01:25:52.198 --> 01:25:52.659
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, great.

01:25:53.180 --> 01:25:54.502
[SPEAKER_05]: I thought I was going to be the only one.

01:25:54.522 --> 01:25:57.608
[SPEAKER_05]: So I was glad that we all picked it.

01:25:58.111 --> 01:26:01.618
[SPEAKER_05]: John brings up the and Matt seconded it.

01:26:02.259 --> 01:26:06.948
[SPEAKER_05]: Tony Storm promo on Mariah May right before she right before their match.

01:26:07.849 --> 01:26:09.833
[SPEAKER_07]: Um, that's just wish casting.

01:26:09.933 --> 01:26:13.079
[SPEAKER_07]: I think because more because she left to go to NXT.

01:26:13.380 --> 01:26:17.267
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, the funny thing was is when it happened.

01:26:17.467 --> 01:26:27.119
[SPEAKER_05]: I even said that like the date because I recapt it and I said this sounds like she's going to WWE and sure enough.

01:26:28.080 --> 01:26:30.282
[SPEAKER_05]: You know, and it's like you will be irrelevant.

01:26:31.564 --> 01:26:39.654
[SPEAKER_05]: You can remember you at one point being somebody, but now you're nothing or you know, and yeah, it was, but yeah, a little bit of whiskey.

01:26:40.234 --> 01:26:40.875
[SPEAKER_07]: Correct.

01:26:41.513 --> 01:26:45.898
[SPEAKER_07]: Uh, she's not far off or people watch NXT than AEW.

01:26:46.458 --> 01:26:49.942
[SPEAKER_07]: Well, more old people, uh, doesn't matter more people.

01:26:50.403 --> 01:26:53.086
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, there's half a million people watching on, uh, Max.

01:26:53.887 --> 01:26:54.087
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, yeah.

01:26:55.989 --> 01:27:04.919
[SPEAKER_05]: No, I mean, yeah, but, but I mean, she's nowhere near as big as she was, even if even if even if more people are watching on NXT, it's like more people are watching broken thinly.

01:27:05.299 --> 01:27:07.321
[SPEAKER_05]: Does that mean he's a bigger star than David Finley?

01:27:07.401 --> 01:27:09.023
[SPEAKER_05]: Don't answer that.

01:27:10.724 --> 01:27:15.250
[SPEAKER_03]: She's probably, she's in a quiet taste, you know, like she's with a Tony storm.

01:27:15.291 --> 01:27:21.660
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, it's, she's, she's like the, she's exactly what you would write out of the HBO playbook, right?

01:27:21.740 --> 01:27:27.408
[SPEAKER_03]: And it makes people that like that kind of content, you're a TC, you know, TCM people, it's called TCM kind of content.

01:27:27.448 --> 01:27:28.810
[SPEAKER_03]: It tickles their fancy a little bit.

01:27:28.830 --> 01:27:33.076
[SPEAKER_03]: So I'm going to be our cup of tea, but some people will look at that and be like, oh, the best.

01:27:33.096 --> 01:27:37.963
[SPEAKER_05]: I just watched Queen of the Ring and I was like,

01:27:38.551 --> 01:27:43.398
[SPEAKER_05]: I was shocked, like I barely even recognized Tony Storm, like she just, like it's a completely different person.

01:27:44.319 --> 01:27:47.644
[SPEAKER_05]: Um, you know, I'm so used to her doing her character.

01:27:48.245 --> 01:27:49.286
[SPEAKER_07]: So she have acting drops.

01:27:49.967 --> 01:27:50.568
[SPEAKER_05]: Who Tony?

01:27:51.309 --> 01:27:51.449
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

01:27:51.469 --> 01:27:52.270
[SPEAKER_05]: Not not a bit.

01:27:53.111 --> 01:27:53.873
[SPEAKER_05]: Um, yeah.

01:27:54.173 --> 01:27:57.397
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, she clearly does with this character she's playing, but not in that movie.

01:27:57.518 --> 01:27:57.738
[SPEAKER_05]: No.

01:27:58.098 --> 01:27:59.781
[SPEAKER_05]: That movie is not very good, by the way.

01:27:59.941 --> 01:28:03.686
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know what the consensus was, but it wasn't a very good movie.

01:28:03.706 --> 01:28:04.548
[SPEAKER_05]: Um, all right.

01:28:05.068 --> 01:28:06.330
[SPEAKER_05]: We have.

01:28:06.631 --> 01:28:13.082
[SPEAKER_05]: we have one more segment to recap and then we have two more awards.

01:28:13.302 --> 01:28:22.317
[SPEAKER_05]: So the main event of this show was the TBS tile match team Mercedes and Willow Nightingale and they had a great match.

01:28:22.998 --> 01:28:24.420
[SPEAKER_05]: I thought was

01:28:24.400 --> 01:28:31.551
[SPEAKER_05]: It's funny because as I'm watching it, I'd heard this was good match and I was like, okay, this is good, but it's not as good as that moxley Alexander match.

01:28:31.952 --> 01:28:34.576
[SPEAKER_05]: By the end, I thought it was pretty much as good.

01:28:34.836 --> 01:28:37.781
[SPEAKER_05]: Like I wouldn't necessarily say it was better, but it was really freaking good.

01:28:38.582 --> 01:28:41.507
[SPEAKER_05]: And this continues Mercedes downward descent.

01:28:41.547 --> 01:28:45.613
[SPEAKER_05]: She's dropping her belts one by one and she turned out she dropped this one.

01:28:45.954 --> 01:28:51.943
[SPEAKER_05]: They did a spot of vertical suplex on the desk that

01:28:51.923 --> 01:28:57.031
[SPEAKER_05]: Um, but they had a great finishing sequence and willow ended up hitting a power bomb.

01:28:57.432 --> 01:29:01.038
[SPEAKER_05]: Sit-out power bomb, the babe with the power bomb and got the, uh, the pin.

01:29:01.659 --> 01:29:04.323
[SPEAKER_05]: Fans went nuts, the confetti fell from the ring.

01:29:04.804 --> 01:29:11.634
[SPEAKER_05]: I thought what they were going for was like that moment when Rhea Ripley beat Shayna Basler at NXT on the last show of the year one year.

01:29:12.416 --> 01:29:16.362
[SPEAKER_05]: Uh, but in that one, the fans rushed the ring and obviously that wasn't going to happen here.

01:29:16.342 --> 01:29:18.084
[SPEAKER_05]: Um, but it was great moment.

01:29:18.104 --> 01:29:23.869
[SPEAKER_05]: All the baby faces came down to celebrate and speedball Kevin Knight and a few other people.

01:29:24.189 --> 01:29:28.173
[SPEAKER_05]: I thought it was interesting that speedball and Kevin Knight were out there, but you know, whatever it's fine.

01:29:28.213 --> 01:29:30.415
[SPEAKER_05]: Maybe Kevin Knight's got the hots for Willow who knows.

01:29:31.135 --> 01:29:33.938
[SPEAKER_05]: Um, I don't know why it's just that could be family.

01:29:34.318 --> 01:29:41.625
[SPEAKER_07]: Although I think Bailey's Mary de Veda Scott, but we don't know how many we don't have any conglameration folks who are the mid-guarders.

01:29:41.865 --> 01:29:44.307
[SPEAKER_07]: Oh, Knight, jet speed get down there.

01:29:44.894 --> 01:29:45.314
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

01:29:45.334 --> 01:29:47.176
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, I wouldn't do the collaboration were there.

01:29:47.937 --> 01:29:49.098
[SPEAKER_05]: Um, but yeah, it was it was great.

01:29:49.199 --> 01:29:49.499
[SPEAKER_05]: It was great.

01:29:49.519 --> 01:29:54.985
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, and then Chris that lander was the last one, and then they did the big hug, got to give the people what they want.

01:29:55.605 --> 01:29:57.667
[SPEAKER_05]: Uh, they just discovered couldn't help himself.

01:29:58.448 --> 01:30:01.271
[SPEAKER_05]: Um, but yeah, it was a great, great match, great moment.

01:30:01.411 --> 01:30:04.314
[SPEAKER_05]: And again, Mercedes said, say, one by one is losing these belts.

01:30:04.735 --> 01:30:05.936
[SPEAKER_05]: And I think we're heading to this thing.

01:30:05.956 --> 01:30:06.617
[SPEAKER_05]: I had this idea.

01:30:06.637 --> 01:30:09.720
[SPEAKER_05]: I came from mentioned on the show, but I mentioned it in the discord.

01:30:09.700 --> 01:30:15.449
[SPEAKER_05]: She ends up where all she's got left is the Owen, and then somebody just shows up and takes it.

01:30:16.791 --> 01:30:17.673
[SPEAKER_05]: That's not yours anymore.

01:30:17.693 --> 01:30:19.075
[SPEAKER_05]: We got to give it to the winner of the tournament.

01:30:20.557 --> 01:30:21.399
[SPEAKER_05]: I got no pills.

01:30:22.220 --> 01:30:24.243
[SPEAKER_05]: And that would just not be great.

01:30:24.324 --> 01:30:26.407
[SPEAKER_05]: But yeah, it was great.

01:30:26.527 --> 01:30:28.190
[SPEAKER_05]: And Willow now just got two belts.

01:30:28.390 --> 01:30:30.874
[SPEAKER_05]: She got the tag team titles and the TBS title.

01:30:31.475 --> 01:30:37.024
[SPEAKER_05]: And to what Ademe was talking about earlier, I think that this tag team,

01:30:37.004 --> 01:30:46.536
[SPEAKER_05]: Elevator her to the point where she was able to beat Mercedes and I don't think that happens without the tag team I think that took both of them Harley and Willow to another level.

01:30:46.596 --> 01:31:06.522
[SPEAKER_05]: So great match and Mercedes sold this loss Incredibly well she just like was sitting outside the ring while everyone's celebrating in the camera folks in a couple times She's like what the fuck just happened like you know like that was the reaction chat on her face like it wasn't over the top it was just like

01:31:06.788 --> 01:31:08.652
[SPEAKER_05]: can't be about loss this woman.

01:31:08.672 --> 01:31:10.214
[SPEAKER_05]: Like, you know, it's great.

01:31:11.256 --> 01:31:11.517
[SPEAKER_05]: Jeff.

01:31:14.503 --> 01:31:16.066
[SPEAKER_07]: Okay, let's get this story through.

01:31:16.086 --> 01:31:20.274
[SPEAKER_07]: So we get Mercedes that women's title and actually do something with his division.

01:31:20.795 --> 01:31:23.520
[SPEAKER_07]: That's my thinking because she is a rock star.

01:31:23.580 --> 01:31:26.926
[SPEAKER_07]: She is so much better than this division.

01:31:26.986 --> 01:31:30.012
[SPEAKER_07]: In my opinion, in in in so many ways, um,

01:31:30.700 --> 01:31:34.326
[SPEAKER_07]: She's the best wrestler, pay me a wrestler in America right now.

01:31:34.787 --> 01:31:39.014
[SPEAKER_05]: I think, you know, people thought because she lost his belt that she's going WWE.

01:31:39.034 --> 01:31:39.515
[SPEAKER_05]: I saw that.

01:31:40.216 --> 01:31:42.761
[SPEAKER_05]: They don't realize she has one year left in her contract.

01:31:42.801 --> 01:31:44.083
[SPEAKER_05]: It's way better pay up.

01:31:46.066 --> 01:31:50.714
[SPEAKER_07]: But again, my, I always thought you should build this company around her too.

01:31:50.814 --> 01:31:54.801
[SPEAKER_07]: So yeah, it was me, but look, and Willow's good.

01:31:55.355 --> 01:31:57.539
[SPEAKER_07]: I don't agree with Matt necessarily.

01:31:57.679 --> 01:32:02.308
[SPEAKER_07]: I won't go that far, but she's she's got and she's gotten better.

01:32:04.171 --> 01:32:12.447
[SPEAKER_05]: We should not deny that Willow Nightgale has some pride for those on audio Matt said that Willow is one of the best American female wrestlers ever.

01:32:12.727 --> 01:32:12.948
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean.

01:32:14.591 --> 01:32:15.051
[SPEAKER_05]: All time.

01:32:15.613 --> 01:32:16.434
[SPEAKER_05]: Tough 20, maybe.

01:32:16.654 --> 01:32:16.975
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know.

01:32:18.490 --> 01:32:21.917
[SPEAKER_07]: Uh-huh, uh-huh, let me see what's in her mouth.

01:32:21.937 --> 01:32:23.581
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm certainly enjoying watching her right now.

01:32:23.641 --> 01:32:27.549
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, she's no, look, she, she's someone who connects with the audience and that's good.

01:32:27.709 --> 01:32:28.451
[SPEAKER_07]: That's a good thing.

01:32:28.912 --> 01:32:35.265
[SPEAKER_07]: Um, how she's going to balance this act with two different belts is going to be interesting because I'm not sure.

01:32:35.325 --> 01:32:37.390
[SPEAKER_07]: She's no glad I'm killing them.

01:32:37.410 --> 01:32:39.013
[SPEAKER_07]: I'm not sure they have.

01:32:39.297 --> 01:32:41.927
[SPEAKER_07]: the booking ability to do this balancing act.

01:32:42.067 --> 01:32:45.420
[SPEAKER_07]: One of those titles is going to take a back seat, I think, unfortunately.

01:32:45.540 --> 01:32:50.438
[SPEAKER_07]: But no, but Mercedes is great, lover to death, and it was a good match.

01:32:50.873 --> 01:32:52.136
[SPEAKER_05]: Uh, Dean, you got anything that?

01:32:52.396 --> 01:32:53.679
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I thought it was a great match.

01:32:54.099 --> 01:32:56.825
[SPEAKER_03]: I think I texted you that as much as watching it.

01:32:56.845 --> 01:33:00.793
[SPEAKER_05]: So, did you, did you, did you agree with me or did you think it was better than the moxel?

01:33:01.033 --> 01:33:10.452
[SPEAKER_03]: I, I just because of the moment and, you know, everything, I mean, you know, the what they are we'll say for comparing the matches just after that.

01:33:11.090 --> 01:33:16.358
[SPEAKER_03]: I will say the same thing, like what I said about Moxley with selling that ankle, coming over the barricade to begin the match.

01:33:16.819 --> 01:33:28.636
[SPEAKER_03]: Let's say the same thing about the way that Mercedes is handling all of her losses and handling all of the belts coming off her, she's a true professional and everything that she does looks great.

01:33:28.977 --> 01:33:40.033
[SPEAKER_03]: I do like Jeff's idea that you got to build a company around her because the idea is you got to build a company around somebody that when they go out there,

01:33:40.013 --> 01:33:42.740
[SPEAKER_03]: every little detail of what they do out there is great.

01:33:43.261 --> 01:33:45.707
[SPEAKER_03]: And that's, you know, that's person to build a company around.

01:33:45.727 --> 01:33:48.353
[SPEAKER_03]: So I, I like this match a lot.

01:33:50.659 --> 01:33:52.403
[SPEAKER_03]: I think that, uh,

01:33:52.568 --> 01:33:57.318
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, I'm happy for for Willow to be going on this run for now.

01:33:57.519 --> 01:34:00.024
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I guess we'll see what they end up doing with Mercedes.

01:34:00.605 --> 01:34:02.489
[SPEAKER_03]: I thought both women worked really hard in this match.

01:34:02.970 --> 01:34:06.057
[SPEAKER_03]: And yeah, just great overall.

01:34:06.077 --> 01:34:07.019
[SPEAKER_03]: And I love the celebration.

01:34:07.039 --> 01:34:10.847
[SPEAKER_03]: It's a little tacky with the stat land or I'll get the end and

01:34:10.827 --> 01:34:13.673
[SPEAKER_03]: But, you know, I mean, it's, it's, it's near Zeev.

01:34:14.454 --> 01:34:15.196
[SPEAKER_05]: Everything's okay.

01:34:15.216 --> 01:34:20.627
[SPEAKER_05]: At this point now, whenever Mercedes is defending one of these belts, I think people are almost going to be expecting or to lose.

01:34:21.509 --> 01:34:23.453
[SPEAKER_05]: And that's not a bad thing.

01:34:23.602 --> 01:34:25.685
[SPEAKER_03]: And yet we're here every week for the reaction.

01:34:26.246 --> 01:34:27.047
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, exactly.

01:34:27.107 --> 01:34:28.369
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, we're here every week for the reaction.

01:34:28.829 --> 01:34:34.037
[SPEAKER_05]: Next one is probably going to be it's either the, uh, uh, what, uh, no, I don't even know.

01:34:34.337 --> 01:34:38.603
[SPEAKER_05]: I just Google to see what belt she still has and the first two that were mentioned or belt she's already lost.

01:34:38.983 --> 01:34:43.770
[SPEAKER_05]: So I'm not even sure what belt she has left, but I think that she's lost off of a W television.

01:34:43.852 --> 01:34:46.517
[SPEAKER_05]: The major one is probably the same LL building make.

01:34:46.537 --> 01:34:50.665
[SPEAKER_07]: She's going to start going mad and have a Harley puppet to talk to.

01:34:52.228 --> 01:34:52.869
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm just funny.

01:34:52.889 --> 01:34:53.510
[SPEAKER_05]: I'll be funny.

01:34:54.272 --> 01:34:56.215
[SPEAKER_05]: All right, we got two categories of left.

01:34:57.117 --> 01:34:59.722
[SPEAKER_05]: And the first one, I will start with a dean.

01:35:00.744 --> 01:35:07.176
[SPEAKER_03]: Match of the year.

01:35:07.696 --> 01:35:09.338
[SPEAKER_03]: match of the year, right?

01:35:09.358 --> 01:35:11.421
[SPEAKER_03]: Just looking pulling up my notes as well, just like Paul.

01:35:11.882 --> 01:35:12.984
[SPEAKER_03]: I have notes 12 sometimes.

01:35:13.364 --> 01:35:14.386
[SPEAKER_03]: I already have my pick.

01:35:14.486 --> 01:35:15.387
[SPEAKER_03]: So I know you do.

01:35:15.507 --> 01:35:16.609
[SPEAKER_05]: And I think we're going to this one.

01:35:16.629 --> 01:35:18.472
[SPEAKER_05]: There's no way we're not going to have a three-way tie.

01:35:18.672 --> 01:35:24.420
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, let's say, um, there are two matches that stood out for me.

01:35:25.923 --> 01:35:31.651
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, one was, um, sort of an off-spray versus the young books at all in.

01:35:31.671 --> 01:35:33.433
[SPEAKER_03]: I thought was phenomenal.

01:35:34.495 --> 01:35:35.897
[SPEAKER_03]: That could have been an match of the year.

01:35:36.788 --> 01:35:45.983
[SPEAKER_03]: Another one that I really liked, like I mentioned before, and I think this is going to be my match of the year is Osprey and Fletcher from Revolution.

01:35:47.045 --> 01:35:54.257
[SPEAKER_03]: It's just the, you know, the great, the story that they told going into it, they sold you on the fact that, that,

01:35:54.237 --> 01:35:56.321
[SPEAKER_03]: Fletcher was trying to prove himself.

01:35:56.341 --> 01:35:59.406
[SPEAKER_03]: He wasn't just Osprey's lackey, it wasn't just Osprey's sidekick.

01:35:59.426 --> 01:36:03.974
[SPEAKER_03]: And Osprey, telling the story that even though they were enemies, he believed in him.

01:36:04.094 --> 01:36:11.006
[SPEAKER_03]: He knew the whole time that he could be this massive breakout star that we're now seeing.

01:36:11.226 --> 01:36:13.410
[SPEAKER_03]: So, and that, you know,

01:36:13.390 --> 01:36:33.475
[SPEAKER_03]: People will say that the continent, the classic match in last year was really where it's shine really for the first time, but I would argue that the match did a revolution and I was was pretty, pretty gory and pretty bloody, but the chemistry that they had and they were really hitting each other hard and no flux given in doing a match and doing a dance between the two of them.

01:36:33.573 --> 01:36:35.676
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm going with Fletcher Osprey from Revolution.

01:36:35.876 --> 01:36:36.416
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the end.

01:36:36.437 --> 01:36:38.359
[SPEAKER_01]: OK, that's a good pick.

01:36:39.440 --> 01:36:43.245
[SPEAKER_01]: I, Jeff, go ahead.

01:36:44.406 --> 01:36:45.908
[SPEAKER_07]: That one was on my metal stand.

01:36:46.028 --> 01:36:49.312
[SPEAKER_07]: I came very close to putting the women's blood and guts match.

01:36:49.673 --> 01:36:50.614
[SPEAKER_07]: I thought you might hear.

01:36:50.634 --> 01:37:02.989
[SPEAKER_07]: It was very tempting, because I had a dored that match for all the wrong reasons, because it was brutal and violent and everything I'd love in wrestling.

01:37:03.256 --> 01:37:06.702
[SPEAKER_07]: That was great, but I went with Swerve and Osprey versus the Bucks.

01:37:06.985 --> 01:37:07.546
[SPEAKER_07]: Okay.

01:37:07.987 --> 01:37:08.948
[SPEAKER_05]: There you go.

01:37:08.968 --> 01:37:13.555
[SPEAKER_07]: Because I'm a wrestling guy and I like to I team wrestling and that was the best tag match I think of the company.

01:37:13.776 --> 01:37:15.578
[SPEAKER_05]: And so that and that was your runner up, right?

01:37:15.639 --> 01:37:16.239
[SPEAKER_05]: My runner up.

01:37:16.259 --> 01:37:16.680
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

01:37:16.780 --> 01:37:17.141
[SPEAKER_05]: For sure.

01:37:17.521 --> 01:37:19.344
[SPEAKER_05]: Um, Treadable building also.

01:37:19.805 --> 01:37:20.787
[SPEAKER_05]: So get ready, chat.

01:37:21.267 --> 01:37:22.649
[SPEAKER_05]: Uh, you're going to have to break this tie.

01:37:23.371 --> 01:37:28.719
[SPEAKER_05]: Um, because for me and I'm sure I'm the only person watching or listening, that's going to say this.

01:37:28.799 --> 01:37:32.224
[SPEAKER_05]: But I love this match and it was my AEW match the year.

01:37:32.685 --> 01:37:33.887
[SPEAKER_05]: It was my.

01:37:33.867 --> 01:37:59.689
[SPEAKER_05]: third best match overall in wrestling behind AJ Styles and John Cena and the Gabe Kid Kenny Omega match from New Japan, but it is a match from AW dynasty and it was Kenny Omega versus Speedball versus Ricochet for the the international championship I think it was at the time.

01:38:00.057 --> 01:38:09.328
[SPEAKER_05]: Um, I just a great match, the best triple threat match of the year for sure, uh, speed ball had probably the most underrated year of the year.

01:38:09.348 --> 01:38:18.338
[SPEAKER_05]: Um, when I was what I was doing my top 20 for the year and average star rating, Kenny Omega was by far the best, but he only had 15 matches.

01:38:18.398 --> 01:38:25.286
[SPEAKER_05]: So, um, to catch that probably had like the most matches and still was super high rating, but speed ball was right up there with them.

01:38:26.167 --> 01:38:26.908
[SPEAKER_05]: Um,

01:38:26.888 --> 01:38:29.052
[SPEAKER_05]: Matt brings up the cash in Osprey.

01:38:29.072 --> 01:38:30.534
[SPEAKER_05]: That was a great match.

01:38:30.555 --> 01:38:31.777
[SPEAKER_05]: Storm and Ryan May.

01:38:31.957 --> 01:38:35.744
[SPEAKER_05]: I just, I didn't think I was the best women's match in the NAW.

01:38:35.964 --> 01:38:38.348
[SPEAKER_05]: I like the Mercedes Tony storm match.

01:38:38.689 --> 01:38:41.254
[SPEAKER_03]: I wanted to give an honorable mention to both of those matches.

01:38:41.414 --> 01:38:44.579
[SPEAKER_05]: Honestly, Fernando says Osprey and Hangman.

01:38:44.619 --> 01:38:50.550
[SPEAKER_05]: So we need we need you guys to break the tie to pick one of our awards so we can move on.

01:38:50.530 --> 01:38:55.116
[SPEAKER_07]: Uh, people and O'Cotta was it or was it's people on to cash and that was really great.

01:38:55.176 --> 01:38:57.960
[SPEAKER_07]: Where they were just working the league like an old school wrestling match.

01:38:58.080 --> 01:38:58.781
[SPEAKER_07]: Oh, it was O'Cotta.

01:38:58.801 --> 01:39:01.765
[SPEAKER_05]: That one was, yeah, the, and the kind of o'Classic.

01:39:01.785 --> 01:39:02.025
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

01:39:02.425 --> 01:39:02.566
[SPEAKER_05]: Uh-huh.

01:39:02.586 --> 01:39:07.332
[SPEAKER_05]: And speedball and fletcher was freaking incredible in that, in that tournament as well.

01:39:08.073 --> 01:39:10.216
[SPEAKER_05]: Anarchy and arena, Matt brings up.

01:39:10.236 --> 01:39:10.856
[SPEAKER_05]: That was a good one.

01:39:11.818 --> 01:39:12.539
[SPEAKER_05]: Um, I don't know.

01:39:12.559 --> 01:39:15.222
[SPEAKER_05]: Maybe we're just going to go with the tie here because

01:39:15.202 --> 01:39:17.545
[SPEAKER_05]: But you know what, no, no, I'm going to make an executive decision.

01:39:18.146 --> 01:39:18.927
[SPEAKER_05]: And I'm going to pick.

01:39:19.047 --> 01:39:23.553
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm going to say the match of the year was just pick the tag team match at all.

01:39:23.633 --> 01:39:28.560
[SPEAKER_05]: And because that was that was probably third on my list and Dean had it second.

01:39:28.620 --> 01:39:32.725
[SPEAKER_05]: So yeah, let's let's go with that as the AW match of year.

01:39:33.266 --> 01:39:36.270
[SPEAKER_05]: And it had some real stakes too.

01:39:38.953 --> 01:39:42.458
[SPEAKER_05]: But our no longer executive vice president of the company.

01:39:42.843 --> 01:39:51.136
[SPEAKER_05]: And in that led to some great television that came after me, but we don't talk about results.

01:39:51.256 --> 01:40:08.082
[SPEAKER_05]: Okay, our last award and this is the big one and it is wrestler of the year and I'm going to start with Jeff because I've got my thing written down and I can show you guys my thing, but I have a feeling that Jeff and I might have this together.

01:40:08.102 --> 01:40:10.285
[SPEAKER_05]: So I'm going to save myself for last.

01:40:10.737 --> 01:40:14.263
[SPEAKER_05]: And I'm going to start with Jeff and then we'll go to a Dean second and then I'll go last.

01:40:14.283 --> 01:40:17.127
[SPEAKER_05]: So Jeff, who is your wrestler of the year?

01:40:17.889 --> 01:40:22.276
[SPEAKER_05]: And I specifically didn't say this is in ring promo.

01:40:22.296 --> 01:40:24.259
[SPEAKER_05]: It's just your overall wrestler of the year.

01:40:25.701 --> 01:40:28.907
[SPEAKER_07]: He was the straw that started the drink all year in AEW.

01:40:28.927 --> 01:40:30.750
[SPEAKER_07]: He started up the year as champion.

01:40:30.790 --> 01:40:33.113
[SPEAKER_07]: He ended the year winning their biggest tournament.

01:40:33.214 --> 01:40:35.918
[SPEAKER_07]: It's John Moxley and it's not even close.

01:40:36.843 --> 01:40:51.865
[SPEAKER_07]: Okay, all the stories revolved around him, even when he wasn't the main event, a lot of the stories revolved around him, or such as the Darby John few that overshadowed the main event that on that paper view as I recall.

01:40:51.845 --> 01:41:09.423
[SPEAKER_07]: This was a John Moxley year, even if we thought John Moxley should go take some time off and come back, reborn or repackaged, it was almost a Jericho like year for Moxley in this company where you're just like, just go away with this gimmick or whatever.

01:41:10.945 --> 01:41:19.033
[SPEAKER_07]: But for better or worse, John Moxley is the wrestler of the year in AEW.

01:41:21.005 --> 01:41:23.011
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, we lost his audio again.

01:41:24.816 --> 01:41:25.618
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, hang on.

01:41:26.179 --> 01:41:26.360
[SPEAKER_04]: Nope.

01:41:27.704 --> 01:41:28.486
[SPEAKER_03]: He's talking.

01:41:28.506 --> 01:41:29.388
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I think I hope so.

01:41:29.469 --> 01:41:30.130
[SPEAKER_07]: I think you just heard it.

01:41:30.151 --> 01:41:30.672
[SPEAKER_07]: Okay, man.

01:41:31.093 --> 01:41:31.775
[SPEAKER_03]: Is it on now?

01:41:31.795 --> 01:41:32.517
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

01:41:33.059 --> 01:41:34.643
[SPEAKER_03]: So yeah.

01:41:34.960 --> 01:42:02.436
[SPEAKER_03]: echoing similar to what Jeff said, you know, it's when when you look at the whole year, I mean, we joke, we joke all year about the briefcase, the problem was to make no sense, where some of this, where some of this go away, who are we trying to elevate, regardless, we look at the constant, the constant was John Moxley for the company of the entire year, showed up to have great matches whenever you needed to, whenever he was asked to, made the title,

01:42:02.602 --> 01:42:09.328
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, I wouldn't say super relevant because we never saw it, but helped try to elevate the company.

01:42:09.368 --> 01:42:18.476
[SPEAKER_03]: And it seems like the company saw a little bit of business growth from year over year from the end of last year, in terms of ticket sales attendance, merchandise.

01:42:18.516 --> 01:42:20.878
[SPEAKER_03]: So, you know, he was the world champion for most of it.

01:42:21.199 --> 01:42:31.748
[SPEAKER_03]: And when he wasn't the world champion, he was still a focal point that was trying to help keep up a huge part of the company, huge part of television week over week, John

01:42:32.082 --> 01:42:53.582
[SPEAKER_05]: Okay, so John Moxie's the winner, that was not my pick and I'm going to say, I am going to when I look at this category and this is this is what I this is the criteria that I chose number one having good matches that necessarily the most important, but one of the things number two.

01:42:53.622 --> 01:42:59.608
[SPEAKER_05]: Elevating the division that you wrestle in.

01:42:59.825 --> 01:43:11.692
[SPEAKER_05]: elevating the championship that you hold, elevating the company as a whole by virtue of what you're doing, putting over other people and trying to bring them up to your level.

01:43:13.556 --> 01:43:16.483
[SPEAKER_05]: My wrestler of the year was Mercedes Monet.

01:43:17.830 --> 01:43:19.655
[SPEAKER_05]: Um, by those criteria.

01:43:20.317 --> 01:43:32.852
[SPEAKER_05]: And I, I fully grant everything you're saying about John Moxley and, and honestly, it's the same, it's the same rationale that I'm going to use for voting for John Cena for rest of the year overall.

01:43:32.832 --> 01:43:54.385
[SPEAKER_05]: But the same arguments that you guys just made about John Moxley, but in in this case, I was going from Mercedes just because I felt and it was cemented last night when she lost that title the willow like she put over willow, she put over that belt by losing it by holding it for so long and then losing it and and she just like the whole year of this division.

01:43:54.365 --> 01:43:56.888
[SPEAKER_05]: was about her, even though Tony was there.

01:43:57.449 --> 01:44:09.163
[SPEAKER_05]: But by the end of the year, Tony's a side show comedy character, and Mercedes is still the belt collector, that even though she's not the world champion, she is the focal point of everyone.

01:44:09.183 --> 01:44:10.484
[SPEAKER_05]: She's like the female John Moxley.

01:44:10.865 --> 01:44:11.565
[SPEAKER_05]: You know, like the other one.

01:44:11.605 --> 01:44:16.451
[SPEAKER_07]: She's a evangelist for this company, for the most part going in the country, is different little Indies and companies.

01:44:16.491 --> 01:44:17.993
[SPEAKER_07]: Now, she owes my second place.

01:44:17.973 --> 01:44:19.395
[SPEAKER_05]: Okay, okay, so there you go.

01:44:19.796 --> 01:44:21.038
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, my second place as well.

01:44:21.219 --> 01:44:24.224
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, okay, and I can't and moxley would be my second place.

01:44:24.244 --> 01:44:26.067
[SPEAKER_05]: So I mean, we all had the top two the same.

01:44:26.668 --> 01:44:28.591
[SPEAKER_05]: Call Fletcher John brought up.

01:44:28.611 --> 01:44:34.682
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, he's strong choice in the discord, Jeremy and Kevin both pick call Fletcher.

01:44:34.662 --> 01:44:41.298
[SPEAKER_05]: But I think they're probably looking more along the lines of in-ring, maybe even promos, character, you know.

01:44:42.140 --> 01:44:48.776
[SPEAKER_03]: When we talk about the fact that Mercedes and Moxley, what they did so well was help bring other people up in their divisions.

01:44:49.378 --> 01:44:52.485
[SPEAKER_03]: Kyle Fletcher was on the

01:44:52.465 --> 01:44:58.215
[SPEAKER_03]: And I think that's what helped get him to a point of being a breakout star and bring our breakouts star in the year.

01:44:58.395 --> 01:45:06.109
[SPEAKER_05]: And Willow and Harley were completely at the were the receiving end of Harley doesn't win break through Rester of the year.

01:45:06.149 --> 01:45:07.852
[SPEAKER_05]: She doesn't win the tag team title, honestly.

01:45:08.152 --> 01:45:12.600
[SPEAKER_05]: It's not the upper the work Mercedes didn't getting her over without the puppet.

01:45:12.580 --> 01:45:28.778
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, so and then Willow at the end and I think I think Mercedes has had an inner crot to get Willow over since the moment she signed an AW, like, you know, if you're paying attention, like, yeah, so yeah, good year for Mercedes, good year for Mox.

01:45:29.159 --> 01:45:40.191
[SPEAKER_07]: You know what's all about both Mercedes and Bailey, as they both understand their role in the business,

01:45:41.268 --> 01:45:42.886
[SPEAKER_05]: you can add her to that list, right?

01:45:44.201 --> 01:45:44.443
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

01:45:45.183 --> 01:45:57.375
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but I think Mercedes thinks that, you know, she still has there's so much more star power there than, you know, over Bailey obviously in the long run, but You know, some Mercedes knows that she can use her role as that.

01:45:57.395 --> 01:46:02.280
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, top star television to make more happen in the division.

01:46:02.340 --> 01:46:14.211
[SPEAKER_05]: So yeah, I'm Bailey's more nuts and bolts and she wants to teach that to people to like, which is great.

01:46:14.191 --> 01:46:15.132
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, and quit.

01:46:17.375 --> 01:46:18.836
[SPEAKER_05]: All right, that is going to do it.

01:46:18.856 --> 01:46:21.499
[SPEAKER_05]: We went overboard here, but it was the hook awards.

01:46:21.579 --> 01:46:23.722
[SPEAKER_05]: And we had a great dynamite to review as well.

01:46:24.883 --> 01:46:27.867
[SPEAKER_05]: So I, I, I, Dean, do you got anything?

01:46:27.887 --> 01:46:28.788
[SPEAKER_05]: You don't have anything to plug.

01:46:28.808 --> 01:46:35.636
[SPEAKER_03]: Do you catch me on this episode of this show on the fighting media network on YouTube and Spotify?

01:46:35.936 --> 01:46:36.777
[SPEAKER_05]: You did a great job.

01:46:36.917 --> 01:46:37.878
[SPEAKER_05]: You did a great job, Dean.

01:46:37.918 --> 01:46:38.299
[SPEAKER_05]: Thanks.

01:46:38.319 --> 01:46:43.945
[SPEAKER_05]: I, I may call on you if Jeff's ever not available.

01:46:43.925 --> 01:46:58.366
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, no, we're not going to get you on next week, but Jeff, you got to take some notes during that lights out match for real, because I definitely know watching it.

01:46:58.387 --> 01:47:00.309
[SPEAKER_07]: 30 minutes a play by play for me.

01:47:00.690 --> 01:47:01.151
[SPEAKER_07]: There you go.

01:47:01.311 --> 01:47:03.414
[SPEAKER_05]: No, you don't need that.

01:47:03.594 --> 01:47:06.118
[SPEAKER_05]: Okay, Jeff, you really get your plugs in.

01:47:06.706 --> 01:47:11.833
[SPEAKER_07]: Uh, I had my quote unquote, one year Cistoscopy on December 26.

01:47:12.013 --> 01:47:12.814
[SPEAKER_07]: I'm all clear.

01:47:12.874 --> 01:47:14.516
[SPEAKER_07]: No cancer, no antiflexes.

01:47:14.576 --> 01:47:15.878
[SPEAKER_07]: I'm very happy about that.

01:47:16.379 --> 01:47:20.003
[SPEAKER_07]: Um, I do a show called Shake The Roast on Voices of Wrestling.

01:47:20.544 --> 01:47:24.149
[SPEAKER_07]: Uh, we've kind of taken a bit of a year in vacation since Rob's been traveling.

01:47:24.169 --> 01:47:26.031
[SPEAKER_07]: And I've never taken a vacation from the show.

01:47:26.071 --> 01:47:31.518
[SPEAKER_07]: So that's kind of nice, but we will be back as we start to gear up a royal rumble season.

01:47:31.859 --> 01:47:34.522
[SPEAKER_07]: And uh, that'll come out probably next week.

01:47:34.562 --> 01:47:36.004
[SPEAKER_07]: But

01:47:36.912 --> 01:47:42.360
[SPEAKER_05]: Uh, like Jeff, I took, I'm taking a break from the take down the last couple of weeks for the holidays.

01:47:42.440 --> 01:47:47.268
[SPEAKER_05]: So I think Garrett and I probably will be back next week, Monday on this very YouTube channel.

01:47:47.308 --> 01:48:01.870
[SPEAKER_05]: So you can check that out and I did a show today with David level, uh, so if you follow me at Facebook, you can find that and we were talking about the best music of 20 25 and we played 15 of our favorite songs that were released this year.

01:48:02.411 --> 01:48:04.514
[SPEAKER_05]: So you can check that out if you want to hear some current music.

01:48:05.115 --> 01:48:05.856
[SPEAKER_05]: So.

01:48:05.836 --> 01:48:13.467
[SPEAKER_05]: Four, a Dean Alpern, four Jeff Hawkins, I've been Paul Fontaine and this has been the Dynamite Show.