WrestleMania 42 Card Pulse Check & Will Ospreay’s Shock AEW Return | Takedown

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[SPEAKER_03]: And so that's kind of what this became.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And the idea of takedown is to not, this is not an MMA or an amateur wrestling show.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It is to have a take, just have a strong take on on some of the things that we see in wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And so I guess the first thing is this WrestleMania card.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I think this is one of those years where I would say the way that the fan base is reacting to this show is a little bit like

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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, it's Russell Mania, and there's going to be some cool stuff, but the buzz isn't necessarily there, so you're trying to find the little nooks and crannies of the build that you really want to see.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I think there are some good things in there.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But overall, it does feel a little bit of a little bit lower since I got you.

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[SPEAKER_03]: What would be

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[SPEAKER_03]: Even I would say even the the Cody and Austin Russell mania because of those two guys and the surprise of Cody, which was the best kept secret or the worst kept secret, I should say in wrestling that because of that, maybe the buzz was a little bit stronger on those Dallas shows the LA shows felt alive.

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[SPEAKER_03]: course, the Philly shows with the rock wrestling again.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And then last year with John Cena's retirement though, I didn't really like those cards as two shows, but you still had John Cena, which was where the interest was.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And this year's missing all of that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not really sure what the hook is for this show.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Some people think it's.

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[SPEAKER_03]: See, I'm Punk and Roman Reigns.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Some people think it's this Obafemian Brock Lesnar.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I would say a smaller percentage of people are really intrigued about this Randy Orton Cody match, which I'm intrigued, but now this, it feels a little bit more like a summer slam match than a WrestleMania match to me, which I'm guessing is probably what it was earmarked for originally.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But what is the hook for you, Paul, because

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm trying to find out like I don't even know what Triple H believes his Russell Manio hook is this year.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I mean, when you ask me what the hook is, I mean, it's kind of everything that you just said.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I would say like, if we've done this a week ago, even, or you've definitely two weeks ago, I would have been in the same boat as you and even, I noticed like Fernando commenting in the thing that the build is not the best.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And it hasn't been like before I would say like the last week or so.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I've been more into, I think it started when

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[SPEAKER_02]: uh, Brock basically answered or sorry, Oh, but basically answered Brock's open challenge last week.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That was like the first time I was like excited for Mania.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then, you know, and then I thought I really, really liked uh, Orton's promo on set on Friday.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I know you weren't as high on as I was, but I, I thought at that point it, it almost felt more like it should be the Sunday main event like you've based on on him.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then you had a really strong

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[SPEAKER_02]: And, and you know, and there's a bit of intrigue there, you know, like what's going on with the usows, punk seems like seems like he's got something up his sleeve that he's not revealing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, like I'm intrigued and it's not so much about the matches as it is the build that I'm excited about.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what the matches are going to be like.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I mean, I can pretty much guess what open rocks could be like, but other than that, like, you know, these match could be really good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They might be stankers.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, there's going to be some good matches.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sure there's going to be some disappointing matches.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sure that too, but it's the build that gets it for me.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And they're in MSG next week.

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[SPEAKER_02]: raw, that'll be a hot show.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it always is so, you know, they'll have something big cooked for that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what, but I'm so I'm getting excited and I'm going to Mania and when I originally had booked, I was like, well, I'm not going to go unless I can get free tickets.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And now I'm like,

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't want to go like so I mean I mean both nights or one night specifically I'll probably look and see what the cards are like I mean obviously if I can get free tickets I'm going to go but I've sent out some feelers and I'm kind of getting back like

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, even though tickets sales aren't going great, there's still not given away free tickets yet.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, oh, you know, maybe I'll get them from the casino, maybe their prices will drop.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But if I can get reasonably priced tickets and I'm going with my son and I brought him to Mania in Dallas, 2016, that chair that you see behind me that we got that there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And,

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[SPEAKER_02]: That was his 18th birthday.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And this will be his 28th birthday that we're going to Vegas for on the Thursday of that weekend.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So if we can, if I can get reasonable price tickets, I think it'd be fun for us to go together.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm sure we'll have a blast.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I've never been in that building.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, I, that's part of it too, but just the, yeah, these matches kind of feel big.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And even when I mentioned the matches to him, he doesn't really follow wrestling, but he knows those names.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And he's not, oh, but he doesn't know, but everybody else he knows.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So, I mean, I think there's, I think there's a little bit more intrigue now as we get closer.

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[SPEAKER_03]: There, I would say,

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[SPEAKER_03]: What was really good about WrestleMania these last few years is the the lay of the land we knew what was coming and you know even even though they had to change up rock and Roman right like a couple years ago they had to change up what that plan was because The fans kind of were actively like no you're not changing what the story is going to be rock like you need to you need to give us what we want.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But, like I said this year, it doesn't really feel like there's that one thing that they were like, you know what?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Russell made it going to be big this year because of this.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And some of that is injury.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So we have to give them that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I've kind of compared it to

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[SPEAKER_03]: a pro sports team who's gone to the playoffs year after year after year, there are a lot of tread on those tires because of being hot and because of being, and not only just on the wrestlers, but as you see the injuries, but there's also something on the bookers and on Triple H in the creative team where, yeah, you know, there's some recycling going on, there's some pushing stuff out longer than necessary, but

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[SPEAKER_03]: you know I have to commend him for being able to do this for this many years because

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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, well, this is not his a stuff.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's also not bad.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And people who think it's bad right now, they just need to go back to before AEW WWE.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It was really bad back then.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh yeah, yeah, 2018, 2019.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I was worried like when I saw the reaction to Orton and Cody when they first turned Orton, I was like, okay, this feels like 2018 again.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then, but this past week, I got the sense, okay, they understand that Orton's going to be cheered and Cody's going to be booed and they're playing into it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And that's, that's fine.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, as long as they're not fighting their fans, they should be fine.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And, and I don't think, and that was what was so frustrating, like, really probably starting from like 2016 until 2019, they were just fighting.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I mean, that led to a W.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, if it wasn't for that, if it wasn't for Vince being so stubborn, we may not even have any W right now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So maybe I should be thankful because I like UW.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So I wanted to go through the card and I wanted to do a little bit of a pulse check here.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And let's do a one through 10.

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[SPEAKER_03]: How excited are you to watch this match?

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[SPEAKER_03]: And it's obviously it's as of right now.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The builds can get hotter, and they can also fall out a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But I kind of want to measure the interest level.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And there's not a lot of matches locked in.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So we'll go through the matches that are locked in.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And then we'll look at some of the rumored stuff to see how interested we would be in matches that have not yet made the card yet.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Right, so first, let's go Cody and Randy.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Now, think about Cody and Randy.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I feel like this feels, it is rush.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It doesn't just feel rushed.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It is rushed.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm sure this was on the books.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I just don't think it was on the books for Russell Mania.

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[SPEAKER_03]: They had to put, put, push the gas pedal on it because other things that may have been on the books for Mania, they just had to switch from.

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[SPEAKER_03]: For being a rushed storyline, I do like it, and I think I think Cody's been awesome.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I know people get a kick out of Randy.

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[SPEAKER_03]: This is still to me.

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[SPEAKER_03]: This is still Randy Orden on neutral.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like I don't even think he's hit overdrive yet.

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[SPEAKER_03]: This is a character that he is very comfortable playing.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It is probably very close to his real personality.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But the thing I will say and I think that worries

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[SPEAKER_03]: is Randi Orton's Russell Mania main event history.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It hasn't been great.

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[SPEAKER_03]: When the show has been about him, the match has not been fantastic.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I can go back to Russell Mania 25.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I was there in Houston, Randy Orton and Triple H. That was dreadful being there.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So what is your one to 10 interest in Randy Orton and Cody Rhodes?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, I will say like a 7.5, but I'm I'm waiting to find out who's on the phone and that is going to make a that could bump it up to like an eight and a half or down to a six and a half depending on what it is so but I'll say seven and a half right now I that's close I would say six and a half seven for me.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think this has to be Cody's match, which is the thing is Randy is going to have it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: If it's up to Randy Orton have a Randy Orton match, this thing is going to be kind of whole home.

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[SPEAKER_03]: If it is up to Cody Rhodes going like no man, like we got to dial it up because if we're main eventing the first night, we got to put some pressure on those other guys.

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[SPEAKER_03]: is in Cody Rhodes more than is in Randy Orton here.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I think that's why I think it'll be better than a normal Randy Orton, Russell Mania main event.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And so that's why I'm also kind of a little bit more interested is just because I think Cody Rhodes is, he's not gonna let us down to in that vein.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, six and a half seven, you're at a seven and a half, Fernandos at a seven, lady beast says can it be rushed when Randy's been lovingly

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[SPEAKER_03]: But that's part of it is we know that there was going to be this slow burn and then I've been waiting for more of the clues that it's going to happen and it seems like it was probably going to happen pretty soon, but just not this soon.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, CM Punk against Roman Reigns.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think they are relying on

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[SPEAKER_03]: the hardcore WWE fans to really, really make this feel like the WrestleMania main event of all WrestleMania's.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Now, I've told you in some other people that the thing that I think is funny about this is last year, we had them along with Seth Rollins and they got played like fiddles for Seth Rollins.

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[SPEAKER_03]: leaning into the Paul Hayman partnership and they both got screwed out of that match.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So it's kind of like the battle for second place here.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Now no one, no one remembers that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's that's like only those of us who kind of like connecting the dots.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Most of the people are just excited to see see him punk in Roman Reigns in a singles match.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Because it hasn't been done very often.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe it's like once.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it was a raw raw.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I won't say a random rocks.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was one of those like 1,000 10th anniversary or something.

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[SPEAKER_02]: 2016 raw or 2012 raw.

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[SPEAKER_03]: When the shield.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So, they're relying very much on CM Punk as, you know, the former pipe bomb promo guy.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He's leaning into getting a little personal, little family, you know, trying to get the family against each other.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think there's, there's too much peacocking for me.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But I think it's working for most people.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I think it's been fine.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like I thought Monday night was fine, except for I didn't, the only thing I didn't understand is the laughing at the end.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like why is he not selling and why is punk laughing?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I think that's where I was saying I think that he's got something up his sleeve that, you know, that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So he thinks that Roman thinks he's got them and punk is like, now now, this I'm playing you.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, but still the spend got put through a table and he's giggled.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean he's yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And again, I don't know why, but I know punk.

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[SPEAKER_02]: and punk is smart.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I mean, he's not just doing that to no sell Roman like there's something there's something going on here.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, yeah, for, uh, for an outbreaks of Jews so calling the shots, that was interesting.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, so I don't know what's going on there.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, on SmackDown and RAW, we have angles where people are saying you are acting like Roman.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And you've got, I love Roman's fire.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like Roman is just not having this, you know, and I love that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I also like Michael Cole had a great line that I don't even know if people heard.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But he said punk smart ass comments finally got him in trouble.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I love that because that was was punk and trouble because he was laughing at the Oh, yeah, I mean, but for the reason you said, I mean, he got put through a table.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He got beat up, you know, like, I mean, so yeah, I mean, he's he's not selling, but he's also hurt.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm like, something's going on, like that's what I'm saying.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I've been like an eight for this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So like a little bit ahead of of Cody and Sean and I forgot his point.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Randy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And the reason is it's because I'm a little more confident in the match itself.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you brought up the three way that had last year and you're not wrong about the story of it, making them look like chumps, but the match itself was great.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, that was a great match and I'm a big punk fan and, you know, me, I get into arguments with people in the discord, you know, like, punk souls, I don't care.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I know, punk souls, punk knows these old, I don't think he's ever been better.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like in the ring, like he makes it work for him and Roman,

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[SPEAKER_02]: Roman might be the most underrated worker that there is.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I don't mean that in, you know, like the Wrestling Observer voting most underrated, obviously, he's not that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But, you know, like in terms of nobody gives him credit for the athlete that he is.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And his matches are exciting.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He knows what to do and when to do it at all times.

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[SPEAKER_02]: and I never mention him when I'm talking about my favorite wrestlers, probably because he's never around, but when he is around, like when he shows up, it's like, okay, shit, I mean, shit's going down now, like this is the time to pay attention.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's almost like the rock used to be.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's not, it's not nowhere near what the rock used to be, but it's kind of that same vibe where, you know, oh, romance here, okay, let's pay attention.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I would say that punk was probably at his best during his AEW run, but he kept getting hurt.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So he's like, I can't go that hard.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I can, but I can still do enough in WWE and he's got, you know, he's got the mic.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So he still got the mic.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So that's what we wanted to work like this in AEW, but he couldn't for that fanbase and those wrestlers.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, they would hate his lunch.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and they wouldn't have liked it, and they would have complained about it while they did complain about it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'm like at a seven, seven and a half, but I'm waiting for the thing that makes me go to like, oh my gosh, okay, now I'm ready, you know.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and they've got a couple more weeks of build.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So, okay, Stephanie Vickere and Love Morgan, I know that it has been kind of

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think they tried early on with a lot of the up close and personal and, you know, talking shit about each other in different languages and, you know, live breaking down, but then kind of sabotaging Stephanie, I still don't feel like the fans themselves see this as that

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's not for the world titles for like the intercontinental title, in a sense, however, and I'll say the keyless the one who said this last night on the rap, I think it's going to cook.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I actually, if they get enough time, I think the match is going to be one of those over-deliver kind of matches.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Now, maybe they don't get enough time and it's not allowed,

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[SPEAKER_03]: a little bit like, okay, you know, we're not getting as much buzz as the other women's title match with Jayden and Rhea, which we'll talk about in a second.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So this one is not front center as like, you know, as it should be for this title, but I do think that when it comes to the match, I think we're going to be, I think we're going to be pretty happy with the match.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I would say I'm a little more and just looking forward to this match and I was a couple of weeks ago.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The promo segment that you're talking about, I think the one where Stephanie was doing a promo and then Liv was kind of answering her and Liv made fun of where she came from and the fact that it took her so long to get there and then Stephanie came back with, you've been here 10 years and you think

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[SPEAKER_02]: you know, you're making fun of me, but you haven't even like done what you should have done, you know, in that time or something like that, I can remember exactly how she worked it, but I thought that was all really good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then the physical stuff they did this week was good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She's getting reactions when she attacks live, so that's good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But again, it feels like

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, if we're going to have 14 matches on WrestleMania between the two nights, I mean, it's feels like it's maybe like the 10th or 11th match, you know, so that that's the part that, you know, where I'm a little more down on it, like so maybe probably like a five, maybe five and a half, but that's probably up from like a three a couple weeks ago and dumb was kind of the heat in the thing in the story and now he's really not he doesn't seem to be attached because he's got his own stuff going on with judgment day.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, he was a part of the physical thing that they did.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm sure he'll be at ringside.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I know, originally, I saw people speculating maybe he's going to turn on live and go with Stephanie.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't see that, I think I'll be mistaken.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But, you know, I do feel like, you know, it probably can't help it over to liver.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So it probably depends on what show it gets placed on.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And if it's on the same show as, like, re-enjade,

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[SPEAKER_02]: then maybe it's going to have time, but probably won't be.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So then if it's on the same show, it is like Becky and AJ, it may get overshone by that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So that I think they want to keep those two matches away from each other probably.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm a little worried about that match in the ring.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But in the ring, yeah, but in terms of it, crowd heat, it's probably going to be like probably the most of all the women's matches.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe unless they do that multi-women tag, I could see the fans,

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[SPEAKER_02]: depending on what it is.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Jade Cargill and Rhea Ripley, they added a baddie's team with yeah, you know, Rhea, Rhea does have a strong friendship with EO, but EO was on the other show on RAW dealing with Kyrie's saying.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So I'm really worried about this match because Rhea Ripley doesn't have bad matches.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And they got their work cut out for them.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Jade, when Jade has the cell, it's not great.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Which I don't really expect her to be a great seller based on her level of experience and what she's been asked to do as a wrestler.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't expect that to be a strong part of her game.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It hasn't been the way she sells off balance the stuff has been, it has not been great.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Now,

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[SPEAKER_03]: If they can do a match where Jade Cargill is just this destroyer of all destroyers and really, Ripley's got to fight from behind, do multiple comebacks and make it feel like she's going to lose this match and then she wins.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think maybe it could actually be kind of good, but I'm just worried that

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[SPEAKER_03]: We're going to get this back in fourth match and Jade's not going to be able to keep up and then you know who's going to get blamed re is not going to get blamed this bad just going to be jade so that's a little bit of my worry i'm a jade fan i want to see her do well she doesn't seem to be adapting maybe is the right word as much as i thought she would have like i thought by now she'd kind of be

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[SPEAKER_03]: in rhythm a little bit more than she is, but then again, she doesn't really wrestle.

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[SPEAKER_03]: They mostly have her walk out in heels and to show off her physique and to talk and she's not really wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So, you know, it's also the way that she's being brought into this thing.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So, I'm about as low as far as a reapply match can be for me, you know, five or whatever.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I've liked the segments.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think the segments have been solid.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I just worry about what happens when they ring the bell.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I would kind of agree with that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm on the Brown in the same level, like four and a half, five.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm, I think that this could be good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: What they need to do, if you remember Jade's very last match in AWS, that she had against Chris Stattlander.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think, like that was a long-ish match, and it was possibly Jade's best match that she's ever had.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And Ria is a better worker than Chris Stattlander.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So if they could do that same format,

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[SPEAKER_02]: of match that they had, I think it could work.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And they've got a lot of time to practice it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Keylin, I did the elimination chamber post game show when, you know, this match was basically made.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And that was kind of what we both said.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like they've got a lot of time to practice this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And that's a good point.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Re as a good worker and Jade, as long as she does what she's supposed to do, it could be really good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They're both over like that's a key to like even though Jade isn't great in the ring You know, no, I'm not going to nobody's going to say she is she is over with that audience and Rhea is I mean the most over female they have and one of the most over people they have

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I think this will surprise people.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like this may over deliver more than the other one, even though it may still be the worst match on the show and still over deliver, although if it does over deliver, probably won't be there probably something that under delivers.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, so I'm, yeah, I don't like a four and a half, but I'm hoping to be surprised.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't particularly think the baddies add anything to it, but at least it gives them something to do.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, lady, lady, be agrees with you.

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[SPEAKER_03]: She says she's not as worried because they're going to be practicing it could they be studying

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[SPEAKER_03]: They're hooking and warrior tapes, maybe, maybe like that's another match they can watch as a template because there's a certain psychology in that match that could fit what they're trying to do though.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, Jade could play Sean in a match like that, you know, and Jade is probably better work of it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Sid was.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, next match is where do my list go?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, there we go.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Next match is AJ Lane Becky Lynch, like you said, I'd like most of the talking segments,

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[SPEAKER_03]: I did find it interesting that both Paul Hayman and AJ Lee mentioned Seth and Becky's child in their promo, or actually Becky's one who brought it up in that promo.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So, young Rue is being involved in storylines.

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[SPEAKER_03]: To me, and again, this may be the same thing with practicing the match and making sure that it's rock solid.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But this is a Becky show to me.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, however, this match happens, and I think the match is actually better if AJ wins again because it's that crowd pop.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And if Becky wins, I think there's going to be a little bit of a deflated response.

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[SPEAKER_03]: In a different way, you know, maybe it's in a three way where some somehow, but I think Becky's going to win this match just because that seems like how it was set up, but I would actually have AJ go over because I think the crowd just wants to see her win and they really enjoy the character and they're happy to see her back and Becky's made she doesn't matter, but I do think Becky's going to win and I have a feeling that reaction might be a little bit deflated.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I haven't really thought about who's going to win.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I guess, kind of by default, I assumed it would be Becky because I, you know, I just figured, yeah, well, you know, AJL disappear until some are slim, but I liked what they did on Monday a lot, both of them.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, the promo from Becky, I feel like that story she told, I mean, was probably true in some ways.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I'm sure she's not mad at her daughter for like an AJ, but I'll bet your her daughter's dancing to AJ's theme song and she used that in the promo, which it's always good when you can do that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: and it takes real things that happen.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I mean, so in that sense, it's unfortunate that Hayman has to go and mention the daughter later, because I don't think it helps that at all, like that feud.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like I was still confused by Hayman's promo.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But the, and you kind of brought back memories because my own daughter actually hated ages theme song.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She's the cry when it came on when it came on.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know why I have no idea like she just got super upset her and Christian Those were the two when she was like two years old like when when those for some reason and then everyone else she liked but Maybe she just had this anticipation that her favorite wrestler is going to be feud with AJ in eight years.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But

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[SPEAKER_02]: The, yeah, so I was really, I really like what they did.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm way more interested in this match than I was the last one.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And again, they have more time for pair.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not worried about what the match is gonna be like.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It'll be simple.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think the template was there in the last match.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was just Becky, you know, working her over AJ selling.

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[SPEAKER_02]: AJ just doing her spots when she needed to and they'll probably get like 12, 12, 15 minutes and I'm sure it'll be a good match.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Not great but good and yeah and I think I agree that AJ should win.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I just I'm not sure she will.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So do you

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[SPEAKER_03]: Are you looking more forward to this match than all the other women's like, yeah, yeah, I'd say with a tag, the rumor tag match.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'd say like a six, maybe for this one, but I'm a big fan of both women.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So that's that's a big part of it, too.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's kind of like the Roman punk thing where I'm like such a big fan of both those guys that I'm going to be looking forward to it more than I should be based on the build probably.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'm with you.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think a six is pretty solid.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Here's where I'm at a nine.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Brock Lesnar know, but fed me I'm a 10.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm still into this match.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I do the only thing that stops me from being a 10 is we still got like three and a half weeks.

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[SPEAKER_03]: What else are they going to do?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I know because at some point Brock's probably going to lay him out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's probably this week MSG and kind of has to right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: had this conversation with both uh, John and big Dave and it kind of hit me not on Monday, but the previous Monday, I was like, okay, Ober looks like the best prospect that they've had.

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[SPEAKER_03]: in years and years and years and years.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe since actual Brock Lesnar.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean, and tricks not far behind honestly.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, trick, we got, you know, trick has been around a little bit longer.

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[SPEAKER_03]: True.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It took him a little bit longer.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So I feel like we've known him for a long time.

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[SPEAKER_03]: but watching Oba do that with with Brock and watching Brock just like try his hardest to make sure that this dude looked like a million bucks.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I started thinking like why like we know that the current creative is you know a little bit on a treadmill like there's you know nothing I don't like it's bad but it's obviously not not exciting to a lot of

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[SPEAKER_03]: created a star at Russell Mania, pushed him all the way to the top and by Summerslam, he's a champ, like, what if you did that?

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[SPEAKER_03]: What if you put the jet pack to him?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I saw, I, I think it was Jeremy in the discord suggested that, you know, having beat Brock and then having win the title at Summerslam and it made similar what they did with the rock in or it was

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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, yeah, I mean, and I think it would work.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I mean, and you know what else it does.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I don't think they actually care a lot about this, but they should put the black man on top.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And that's something that they've been criticized for.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so in that sense, it may be the right place in the right time and the right guy to do to do that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: There is a wave, I think we can feel the wave, you mentioned trick.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Braun Breaker unfortunately got hurt.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm hopeful that he can come back for WrestleMania because I think he and Seth is really exciting and Seth and Logan is a lot less exciting to me.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but obviously they see big things for him, too.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Carmelone and Melo on the undercard are, you know, hardcore wrestling fans like those guys too.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and so there does feel like some young blood who after, you know, the last several years of just nothing but the OGs, which has been fine, because it's kind of what they got there, but

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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, we've talked about this when you're on top, it is the perfect time to start getting folks over, um, because you can do no wrong.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's a very year late on this really like you should have been doing this last year when John Cena was retiring.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's kind of like, I was trying to think of the sports analogy, but it's like that team that rides it superstar for that one extra year and maybe you can get to tie it a lot of it and then the guy retires and what's left.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's like when Tim Duncan retired.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know what, like, and the spurs are like, uh, crap.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That they were actually pretty good.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The where they, okay, then there's probably a better example.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Jeeter, maybe, like, it's probably Kobe.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Coat, yeah, yeah, there's there's a good one.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but, but like, yeah, where, you know, like, and you should have been building up.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You should have been bringing up the next guy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, you know, and they got lucky now, you know, with bringing in Luca, but yeah, it's, you know, so they should have been like this should have been a year ago, like Ovis should have beat Brock a year ago at WrestleMania.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And, and then by the end of the year, he's ready to take over for Cena.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But, you know, I guess, you know, if it works, it works.

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[SPEAKER_03]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So those are the made matches.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And here are some of the rumored ones.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We'll just go through these quickly.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The rumored tag team championship, a mix of or maybe all of them.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Julian Keanu, we don't know what EO is doing, and if EO is not on this show that is awful, because she's like, I would put EO in that match with a mystery partner and have the mystery partner be Soul Ruka.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That'll be awesome.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's, I had that idea at the elimination chamber, and and Soul is probably wrapping up her NXT career next weekend against Des area, so the time

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[SPEAKER_03]: He had Fernandes says, he over Zasca.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I also said that after elimination chamber, that would be awesome too.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That would be, especially if she's like trying to fight for her friend or maybe her friend of me, Kyrie, and then she's got to take out the bully and then Kyrie's got to see which side she goes with.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That could be interesting.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And Kyrie turned on Kyrie turning on Oscar would get a huge pop.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, actually actually like that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: uh... pentah and vakingo i know that's kind of in a rumored uh... yeah yeah and i'm not what i have to say i'd rather see that in triple a to be honest with you but haven't seen whatever we're supposed to be in vakingo i have not seen it yet well you don't watch triple a so that's part of it

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[SPEAKER_03]: I've, I don't watch AAA.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I've, I may have watched some of it, especially early on.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I watched some of the first couple shows, but I haven't watched of late, but I still don't see, I don't see his fit on the main roster.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, he doesn't fit on the main roster.

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[SPEAKER_02]: WWE not even close because even if he goes to NXT,

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's still pretty small compared to a lot of them.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it even is better there, but yeah, it's, no, I mean, he's perfect in AAA, like, you know, but they kind of like almost wrote him out of AAA, so Camilla Hayes and Iliad, if we see that again, we've seen it a lot towards a, there's a, I think I had the best best WWE match of the year, maybe on, on SmackDown.

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[SPEAKER_03]: how could you see through all those commercials?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think I watched it to the commercials.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, you did.

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[SPEAKER_02]: On Netflix, I think.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Because that's the hard part for me is a movie.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I can see that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And like a four minutes of commercials, man.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Great.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like true.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Actually, that two commercial breaks.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, it's like, yeah, it's minutes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, but yeah, I love those too.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I mean, I would be deeper into that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'd be like an eight for that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: If there's a there's a rumor that it could be two out of three falls.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I almost don't want to see that because you know it's going to happen as the first two falls are going to be fast our guy our guy Joe.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think it I think it was him that suggested this Carmelo doing an open challenge and having it be accepted by Royce keys.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, that'd be interesting.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and and yeah, so I would I would love to see that Joe Gilbert who runs a show in our WWE channel in the discord.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Much better than him tagging up with Joey.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh God.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I you know, and jelly rolls getting a lot of a lot of good praise for his his promo work and I don't I don't hate the promo work.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I just I'm just not a fatal watch him.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I had to watch, I had to watch the Randy, I had to watch the Randy one.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I know, but I skipped past the kit Wilson's.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, but I mean, I'm matched with, I mean, if it's him and him and he's against Miz and Kit, I mean, I'm gonna watch the entrances and I'm gonna go grab a drink.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like if I'm in a crowd, like I don't think it will.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I can watch his entrance, like 10 times a row, but I don't really care to see any of those guys wrestle.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So let's break this up because we have a question from Andrew, what's the move for Gunther at WrestleMania?

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[SPEAKER_03]: I am very similar to like EO, right?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like there's no, it doesn't seem like there's a real plan yet.

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[SPEAKER_03]: No, I mean, the rumor was Ray.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and I don't, I think if they were going to do that, it would be more obvious by now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm assuming, right, he's hurt, right?

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[SPEAKER_03]: He like a broken rib or something.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I have no idea.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Unless they do some sort of an open challenge thing for somebody and he answers it, you know.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It would be a nice match for Royce Keys there too.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The Royce Keys would have to lose.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, maybe that was the thing where he challenged somebody.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And yeah, yeah, you wouldn't want him losing on his first match.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But maybe I'll be great, but like no build and I don't know if they would give them enough time.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But Triple H was booking that their their feud, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Remember that three way they had.

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[SPEAKER_02]: in a couple years ago, it means it was at an NXC UK or was NXC UK, so what it would have been like Johnny's saying to whatever I think it was actually booking that to back then, but it was three way they had a couple years ago, WrestleMania Goon third.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, shame.

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[SPEAKER_02]: True.

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[SPEAKER_02]: True.

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[SPEAKER_02]: True.

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[SPEAKER_02]: True.

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[SPEAKER_02]: True.

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[SPEAKER_03]: True.

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[SPEAKER_03]: True.

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[SPEAKER_03]: True.

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[SPEAKER_03]: True.

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[SPEAKER_03]: True.

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[UNKNOWN]: True.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, was he hurt?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think so.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He comes back.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He does like three bangers and then he's out for six months.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Another rumored match is Julia versus Tiffany.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I feel like they've really dropped the ball with Tiffany.

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[SPEAKER_02]: a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, part of that was, you know, like her kind of not performing very well last year at Mania.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I mean, I don't even think it was her fault, but she was in there with Charlotte.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So nobody's going to blame Charlotte.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, you know, so that that's unfortunate for her.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then just really having no direction for her.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like,

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[SPEAKER_02]: that she's a baby face that should be a heal, um, and problem is when she's a heal, the fans cheer, so they're, it's kind of same kind of problem that you have with Charlotte, and they've had it with Sasha, and now they're having it with Tiffany.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, uh, the demon against Dom will be pretty fun, I think.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, for an

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[SPEAKER_03]: Dom should be highlighted a little bit more on the show, but he's kind of lost in the shuffle a little bit probably I would say next year he's got to be in some of these made a minute programs and he couldn't he could win money in the bank this year.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I hate money in the bank for that reason like I don't hate it, but you know what I mean like I don't like guys getting their first title that way, but it seems to be what they do and that would be the way to get him a title.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, although like the the other thing is like they're kind of building AAA around him, so, you know, like he's kind of more where he's needed, I think right now, you know, and there I mean, you know, a lot of people don't watch it and everything, but they're doing really good business down there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, you know, it can't really be ignored.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's not CML all business, but it's pretty damn good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, better than New Japan like in terms of like business that they do like I'm not saying the work the cards aren't that for like they'll get me wrong about that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not saying that at all.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So you're saying we need to triple a podcast.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This we had Spanish people to do it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Because I'm not going to do it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm just going to go on there and talk about how great a Guano is.

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[SPEAKER_03]: uh... and jica fattou and drew mac and tire they built an entire show around that feud yeah that was the one i i think we're where it's kind of put me where it started get me excited for mania because now we're at like four playing about that a little bit though sure okay okay you watch mma you you you're di heart mma fan

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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, have you ever seen a three hour fight?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Wow.

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[SPEAKER_03]: No, but this is an MMA.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Because these dudes started fighting at the beginning of the show.

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[SPEAKER_03]: then they were fighting in the middle of the show.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And we are supposed to believe.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, and he was a barracks in the beginning of the show.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But based on them fighting at the end of the show that they were just fighting for three hours.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, wow.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I hate stuff like that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I know, it's, it makes me feel like an idiot for watching.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There's another idea I saw on the discord.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if, I can't, I'm not gonna try to say who's had it, but if they started this match on night one,

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[SPEAKER_02]: and it was still going at the beginning of night two.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That would have you pretty funny.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So almost like the the Roddy Piper Gold does match, you know, like, oh, good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but they could do like a strip match, like where they're fighting on the strip.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That'd be kind of cool.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, how many sections off part of the strip for that?

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[SPEAKER_03]: cut through a couple casinos.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Be fun, MGM casinos, you know, like because they're partners.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I would, I would, I think that would be a guilty pleasure.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if you'd be any good, but I think it would be.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, there are kind of reminds me of is that Randy Orton and Edge match from the pandemic, WrestleMania.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Biting in that entire building.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh my god, the greatest.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Orno, that wasn't the greatest match ever.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That was a couple months later.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This was what worst match ever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was so bad.

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[SPEAKER_03]: All right, lady, lady, be wants to know.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's Tom Brady going to be doing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think he's going to be in the corner of whoever Logan Paul's facing.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, and is he, oh, yeah, you, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh

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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, yeah, I mean, I, I would think the play is to have Brady cornering whoever Logan Paul's facing and then like screw over Logan Paul costs in the match.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So the finish has to be Brady hit and Logan Paul in the chest with a football or something, right?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like you did at that at the football game.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, just that was the first time I saw it like when they showed it on raw, I guess it probably was on social media and stuff.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, that's cute.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I, I, I like, uh, you remember the David Letterman thing where he, any time a quarterback would show up, they, I don't, I don't remember if they're like a moving target, maybe it's like a taxi cat.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe the quarterback would have to throw it through the thing.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Tom Brady's only got one shot.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I hope it's a short pass that he's got a drill Logan with it because he's supposed to be the greatest quarterback of all times.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So he's got a drill this pass.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He can't screw up on this pass.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That's what it means.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But I'm, you know, Tom Brady's Tom Brady, it's whatever.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But it's a WrestleMania moment.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He gets him on sports center, you know, like, and now if they do that, it's got to be on ESPN, you know, that and the Brock match.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Those are the ESPN matches.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Hey, look, like I was saying, what is the because this is the first WrestleMania on the ESPN network and and Tom Brady's a gigantic star.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So he is a gigantic star on the other network, though, on Fox.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He's like the highest payable full ball announcer, but you know, it would get them covered, like you said, it would get them on sports center just to see what Tom Brady was doing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and I see is he popular in Vegas?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't even know.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I know he's a part owner there, but yeah, he's he's over in Vegas.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That's good.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Big demo.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Last the last thing is Seth Rollins and Brown breakers rumored I hope it happens for Brown breakers sake because I think he did such a great job in in getting here and then he got hurt.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And that's really the interesting thing for Seth.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I kind of wish Seth would stop coming out with the hood, like you're back dude, if we know, like, you got all this this week was the worst phrase like on the thing forever, and Hayman doesn't even notice him.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And it's like, I, yeah, I think the play is the MSG next week.

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[SPEAKER_02]: If Braun is ready, like that's where he's gonna, he's got to show up in Defend Paul.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and yeah, and then you know, Spirits Seth out of his boots and boom,

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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, all right.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So overall.

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[SPEAKER_03]: we were grading the matches.

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[SPEAKER_03]: What's your pulse check for the overall tonight show you looking?

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, you're going to be there.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So of course I'm going to be there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to watch it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I would like to be there live, but if I don't, I'll go, I'll probably watch it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's sweet party one night.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I might do the pool party the other night at Circa.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That looks like it'd be a lot of fun.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so I'll watch the shows.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm excited for the show.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Because, you know, I'm going to be in Vegas probably a little bit more than if I was just watching at home for sure, you know, and I'm excited to see all of people and maybe meet to new people and and all that stuff so I'm like somewhere between a seven and an eight and I'll probably be at like a nine by the time we get there so yeah, yeah, there will there will be a nice the last year the

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[SPEAKER_03]: WWE presence in Vegas was a bit of a turn off.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I hope that they adjust that a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Cause it felt like the I felt like the Ik when you were.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's so weird because I don't even know what I'm going to be doing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like there's one show I want to see aside from Mania and that's blood sport.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, and I know some people, so hopefully I can get hooked up there, but I'm sure the tickets are relatively cheap too.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, I want to see that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'll probably end up seeing one or two other indie shows.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I joined all spring break, it would be kind of cool to go to.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I've never been to that, and I've heard good things about it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then the negative one.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, negative one star match.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, negative one.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he's wrestling joy to Nella, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I got I saw negative two star match tonight on NXT.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, so I'm looking forward to being there and the card itself, like I say, this may be the one where I go back and watch it later, you know, like depending on if I go live, I'll probably watch it at home.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Obviously if I'm watching it in the sweet party, I won't watch it over again.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, and yeah, we the more I think about the matches kind of getting excited for them.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So and I wouldn't have thought that like even two weeks ago.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So they're doing I think they're doing a good job with this build.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I'm not there's been better for sure, but there's definitely been worse.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And not that long ago.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So you have any ideas about who's on the phone with Randy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think so my first thought was flair just because I don't know I just popped into my head and and you know they got history royal family all that crap and then someone suggested the rock and I thought oh man that'd be great but then I don't know and someone said oh would make more sense in the bloodline story and I'm like no I mean he's feeding with Cody like so you know to me that makes sense there but I think it's going to be Jericho.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's right.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That's what I'm thinking.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So I don't know where they're, but who's the royal family, Ash, the fishman, the Fisherman, Ash, his son is not wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That's just a, it's just a red herring.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, it's, it's something to throw people land storm, land storm as Jared was real brother.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I, Ted Irvin.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, if it is going to be Jericho MSG would be the place, you know, so I got expecting something big on Monday.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what, but I'm expecting something big.

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[SPEAKER_03]: a shame for an analyst as it could be triple H I said triple H to but then my thought there was if it's triple H then he's got to involve himself in the storylines again and as we see on unreal like he likes being the mastermind and plus with you know with his health he probably doesn't want to get back he's probably he's gonna have to lift the crazy amount of weights to look the part or whatever he's not gonna want to look lesser than you know on russmanious stage but maybe he's working out as we know it who knows

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, Shane.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you know, it's always a possibility.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think it's Shane, but I would put a might like a 5% or something.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, I think Shane's leg is healed fully.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I hope so last time he was in a WrestleMania ring.

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[SPEAKER_03]: All right, we're going to hit a couple of AEW topics here, and I haven't talked to Paul about this, but we did do a show saying, I maybe the last show that we did.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We were talking about Hangman page and what they're going to do.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And you said that you thought that he was going to lose and he lost and my question to you is now what with Hangman page?

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[SPEAKER_03]: What do we have?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think he's a way for a while, you know, I don't know how long, but he'll show up at some point and you know, and he'll, I think that the play with him is he's going to try to honor his stipulation, but

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[SPEAKER_02]: circumstances are going to happen to where the situation is calling for him to be going after whoever the world champion is and he's not going to want to do it and he's going to have to be convinced to do it or perhaps the enters like something like the Owen or some other thing where the prize is a world title shot.

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[SPEAKER_02]: and he wins like so then what you do like do you do say well sorry I'm not going to wrestle for the world title because I said I never would or do you take your world title shock if you want it like I don't know but I think that's that's what's going to happen but I do think he's going to be gone for I would say probably at least until double or nothing

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[SPEAKER_02]: Although I do they do have a show in Virginia coming up.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I mean maybe that should be as promo to yeah talk about the whole thing but but I like I said I think this was more about mjf and whatever's going to happen with the title and and just kind of taking handman off of the chessboard so that you know I mean for now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't, if I had to put money on it, I would say he will challenge for the world title at some point again, but I would also say that as of right now, the plan is that he won't.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Does that make sense?

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[SPEAKER_03]: What if they recreate WCW and he fights for their title?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, he tried this according to $6.9 million.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, exactly.

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[SPEAKER_03]: In hindsight, what a goober he is for accepting this stipulation.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, yes and yes, but you know what it's funny I'm glad you brought this up because I was reading the observer and Dave was talking about you know like he didn't agree with the booking decision and one of the reasons why and it wasn't even so much the booking decision it was the way they did it because nobody screwed hangman so he doesn't have anyone to blame for the loss and when I read that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was like, okay, Dave missed the point because the person he has to blame for the loss is himself and that is 100% consistent with the hangman character and it's what people are drawn to about him as much as you and I don't like it this millennial cowboy that's you know, constantly questioning himself.

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[SPEAKER_02]: the fans love it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They relate to it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think it's part of what makes him so appealing to their fan base.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so that they need to play into that at some point.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So when he does come back, he is going to be down on himself because he can't blame Max.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He can't.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The only person he has to blame is himself for putting himself in this position and not getting the job done.

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[SPEAKER_02]: that doesn't sound like a man who's going to go back on that stipulation correct I think he's going to be forced to in a way like I mean you know like so either like I said circumstances will be such that he reluctantly accepts the child title challenge or again he could completely flip and I know Jeff had the idea well he's just going to turn heel and say out of lied that's lame.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, but, you know, and I told him that, um, I don't know if the lady visa line, uh, the, um, but I, yeah, so I do think that we're going to see that and we're going to see this self-doubt and then maybe he turns a corner and believes in himself again and then, you know, and one thing I did notice because I watched them, those show a couple days later and I knew MJF at one and I was listening

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[SPEAKER_02]: Hang on page has said that he will never challenge for the world title again if he loses.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He wasn't saying that he couldn't challenge for the world.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Tony Khan said that too.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He was like, it's the handshake agreement.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Brian Danielson said he's never allowed to challenge for the world title again if he loses, but I don't think Brian goes to these booking meetings.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And he's not listening or he's the only one who actually uses logic in what he's talking about true Well, it's the infranando brings up pointy's he just qualified for ever into New Owen if I was ever going to go on one of these press calls or Scrum or whatever that's the first question I'm asking

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[SPEAKER_02]: like, is Hangman allowed to enter the Owen?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I know that Tony's response would be, well, this is his choice not to challenge for the world title.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So if Hangman chooses to enter the Owen, knowing that the prizes the world title, that's his prerogative.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, that would be the answer.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so no, he's not prohibited from entering the Owen, but it's his choice.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, I do think that at some point he will, but again, I'm again, it's not the kind of storyline I'm into, but I do believe the W fan base would be totally into this storyline of this Hangman doubting himself and in the redemption story of Hangman trying to come back from this, which again is probably the low point of his career, you know, losing to MJF, not having anyone to blame

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[SPEAKER_02]: And that's his own worst enemy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And it has been the entire existence of a W, the one person he has to blame for his own faults is hang my page.

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[SPEAKER_03]: All right, let's move on.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Last topic, we got we saw.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think, I've made this joke before that some AEW fans, you know, what will get in front of a bus to defend some of Tony Khan's booking decisions, not anybody we know, but I've just these online fools who I see, James Will Osprey.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Will Osprey came back from this career

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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, this is almost career ending next or not really career.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And because we knew he's coming back.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But the way that they sold the whole thing, he comes back on the paper view.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's like, wow, the student is, I mean, even was doing moves.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, wow, the student is ready to wrestle.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's going to be kind of interesting.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, we didn't expect him back this soon.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He kind of cut what the rehab in half is a healthy.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, what's going on?

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[SPEAKER_03]: And then the very next dynamite, he's wrestling Blake Christian in a nothing match to open a very poor dynamite in my opinion.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But

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[SPEAKER_03]: This is like antithetical to business in how you would normally do this.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Now, some may W fans who want to jump in front of a bus to make excuses for Tony Conne.

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[SPEAKER_03]: They may say, well, his television deal is more important than his papers, and I would agree with that.

01:00:05.098 --> 01:00:07.622
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, the television thing is more important.

01:00:08.277 --> 01:00:18.351
[SPEAKER_03]: But this was hot, shot, booking wasn't built up in any way to get the ratings that that something like they should have gotten.

01:00:18.371 --> 01:00:26.062
[SPEAKER_03]: If you did want to put him back on TV, like building to a match with him in John Moxley on a special Dynamite in three weeks.

01:00:26.082 --> 01:00:29.226
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, okay, yeah, then I would not say that that was foolish.

01:00:29.947 --> 01:00:31.269
[SPEAKER_03]: But the way that they did it was foolish.

01:00:31.569 --> 01:00:33.272
[SPEAKER_03]: Now, that's not what I'm gonna complain about.

01:00:33.312 --> 01:00:35.635
[SPEAKER_03]: Like I've already said enough about that.

01:00:36.138 --> 01:00:38.060
[SPEAKER_03]: Here's what I want to know what you think about this.

01:00:40.243 --> 01:00:44.168
[SPEAKER_03]: Based off what we know about these neck injury things, this feels rushed.

01:00:44.308 --> 01:00:53.038
[SPEAKER_03]: Now, the way that medical has changed, whatever, like we know from back in the day how these neck injuries have happened.

01:00:53.459 --> 01:00:54.200
[SPEAKER_03]: Daniel Bryan.

01:00:55.021 --> 01:01:00.407
[SPEAKER_03]: Bryan Daniel sent on dynamite talking about, you know, his own neck issues.

01:01:01.535 --> 01:01:12.168
[SPEAKER_03]: Do you think will felt any sort of pressure to get back quickly for all in because of where that show is?

01:01:12.288 --> 01:01:17.334
[SPEAKER_03]: And probably because of what we think the booking of that show is supposed to be his coronation.

01:01:17.454 --> 01:01:22.800
[SPEAKER_03]: Finally, after all these years, this is where he's finally going to win the title last year.

01:01:23.573 --> 01:01:26.923
[SPEAKER_03]: They weren't going to do it because they were not in London.

01:01:26.963 --> 01:01:30.253
[SPEAKER_03]: They were in Dallas, but we knew they were going to be in London this year.

01:01:30.273 --> 01:01:31.778
[SPEAKER_03]: Then he gets hurt.

01:01:31.927 --> 01:01:35.072
[SPEAKER_03]: Do you think that there was pressure on him to come back?

01:01:35.212 --> 01:01:38.758
[SPEAKER_03]: Not that I'm saying that Tony Connell's like dude, we need you for this show.

01:01:38.818 --> 01:01:39.939
[SPEAKER_03]: You're gonna sell the tickets.

01:01:40.220 --> 01:01:41.342
[SPEAKER_03]: We're gonna put the belt on you.

01:01:42.083 --> 01:01:53.901
[SPEAKER_03]: Not, I don't think the pressure is that way, but his own personal pressure, knowing what the plans may be, I gotta get back like this is my livelihood and I'm gonna do anything and everything to get back.

01:01:54.505 --> 01:02:14.151
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think whatever pressure it is, it's pressure that he's put on himself and it's probably, I mean, it's one of two things like either either they were all working us and the injury wasn't as severe as what they let us to believe, which is entirely possible or.

01:02:14.266 --> 01:02:15.348
[SPEAKER_02]: it is serious.

01:02:15.748 --> 01:02:26.044
[SPEAKER_02]: He recovered quickly because he's, you know, wrestlers aren't normal men or whatever that saying is fighters aren't normal or whatever he'll faster than normal men.

01:02:26.785 --> 01:02:32.333
[SPEAKER_02]: But but it also feel like if that's the case, it's probably a ticking time bomb.

01:02:32.874 --> 01:02:35.818
[SPEAKER_02]: And it reminds me of Kurt Angle.

01:02:35.798 --> 01:02:44.606
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, when he was supposed to be out for like 18 months and I think he was gone and he was back in like four or something, but he had that other surgery.

01:02:44.626 --> 01:02:47.509
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and he wasn't the full surgery and he was never the same.

01:02:49.350 --> 01:03:05.805
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, and I think I think Edge might have done something like that at some point two and then he ended up, you know, he's gone for a little bit than he came back and then he was gone for a long time like he retired and then you know, eventually unmetired.

01:03:05.785 --> 01:03:09.811
[SPEAKER_02]: But I don't think that's the case.

01:03:10.612 --> 01:03:14.719
[SPEAKER_02]: And again, we can just hope and pray that, you know what?

01:03:14.739 --> 01:03:15.841
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it was severe.

01:03:15.861 --> 01:03:17.082
[SPEAKER_02]: He got his surgery.

01:03:17.123 --> 01:03:21.790
[SPEAKER_02]: He's just a Superman and he's better and he's going to be fine.

01:03:22.371 --> 01:03:26.477
[SPEAKER_02]: But the thing is, if he doesn't modify the way he wrestles,

01:03:26.457 --> 01:03:31.967
[SPEAKER_02]: He's going to be back in this situation again in, you know, in sooner and later.

01:03:32.007 --> 01:03:37.757
[SPEAKER_02]: And if he does modify the way he wrestles, does that mean he's going to be as over as he was.

01:03:37.918 --> 01:03:38.338
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.

01:03:39.581 --> 01:03:46.373
[SPEAKER_02]: But I do think that he thinks it's important, not just for this show, but you got to remember, too,

01:03:46.353 --> 01:04:10.656
[SPEAKER_02]: This is like almost a contract year for a W, so it's very important that they maintain whatever momentum they have right now into next year because then I think next year is the last year There's TV contract and then it's up to tnwbd or Netflix or no paramount whoever owns them to determine whether or not to pick up that fourth year at a big raise

01:04:10.636 --> 01:04:19.250
[SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, like, I don't think Tony Con is putting pressure on Will Osprey, but I think Will Osprey is putting pressure on himself for himself and also for the company.

01:04:20.913 --> 01:04:34.895
[SPEAKER_03]: So, if he does sell tickets to the show and they get it backwards, back up to like 50k, that is big business shit for sure.

01:04:35.175 --> 01:04:36.017
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

01:04:36.037 --> 01:04:36.137
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

01:04:36.556 --> 01:04:54.087
[SPEAKER_03]: My worry as a fan is, I will feel guilty if this man gets hurt again and I'm out there going like, oh man, he's got to have these great matches and he's got to do the Will Osprey thing because, you know, that's what we, that's what we know of him.

01:04:54.908 --> 01:04:57.012
[SPEAKER_03]: I already feel guilty.

01:04:57.970 --> 01:05:26.323
[SPEAKER_03]: watching these dudes like MJF and Hangman in that main event like may meet each other like I already feel guilty being part of this blood thirsty audience even though I hate that style of wrestling I still paid for that show I still gave them my money which is basically me telling them yeah keep doing what you're doing and I feel guilty as a fan watching that go like these dudes are just killing themselves it because the audience is so

01:05:26.303 --> 01:05:36.455
[SPEAKER_02]: That didn't even bother me as much as like the Fletcher brisco ladder match or the hangman Swerv Texas death match they had.

01:05:36.576 --> 01:05:40.641
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what it was, but I mean, I didn't like the syringe spot, but nothing else.

01:05:40.701 --> 01:05:42.263
[SPEAKER_02]: And they're really affected me.

01:05:42.303 --> 01:05:43.504
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe I'm just de-sensitized.

01:05:43.524 --> 01:05:43.824
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.

01:05:43.844 --> 01:05:45.066
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it might be numb to it at this.

01:05:45.106 --> 01:05:53.256
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but but I also think it's because MJF is such a good worker that like he kind of like sells that stuff.

01:05:53.438 --> 01:06:01.792
[SPEAKER_02]: the way that a wrestler would sell it as opposed to like in some of those other matches they're like trying to know sell this stuff which makes it worse in my opinion.

01:06:02.473 --> 01:06:07.382
[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, I don't know what it is, but some about MJF's matches, I don't get turned off.

01:06:07.662 --> 01:06:08.123
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.

01:06:09.537 --> 01:06:09.838
[SPEAKER_03]: All right.

01:06:09.858 --> 01:06:11.000
[SPEAKER_03]: That's a good comeback show.

01:06:11.040 --> 01:06:11.661
[SPEAKER_03]: You got done.

01:06:11.721 --> 01:06:14.285
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, the dynamite show come in Wednesday evening.

01:06:14.345 --> 01:06:14.626
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

01:06:14.906 --> 01:06:15.167
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

01:06:15.187 --> 01:06:15.928
[SPEAKER_02]: Wednesday.

01:06:16.489 --> 01:06:16.609
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

01:06:16.629 --> 01:06:17.431
[SPEAKER_02]: And the next week.

01:06:17.491 --> 01:06:20.837
[SPEAKER_02]: We're we're probably going to do a special show the next night, because I'm going to be there live.

01:06:21.778 --> 01:06:23.922
[SPEAKER_02]: They're in Winnipeg on April 1st.

01:06:23.942 --> 01:06:25.605
[SPEAKER_02]: So, and I'm I got.

01:06:25.585 --> 01:06:28.629
[SPEAKER_02]: AW is taking care of me for that one.

01:06:28.669 --> 01:06:29.650
[SPEAKER_02]: So I have to cover them.

01:06:30.151 --> 01:06:31.853
[SPEAKER_02]: I have to cover the show like a reporter.

01:06:32.594 --> 01:06:34.576
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah, yeah.

01:06:34.596 --> 01:06:38.941
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to take notes and they don't they don't have dynamite scrubs, though.

01:06:38.961 --> 01:06:44.047
[SPEAKER_02]: So I think you're no, no, but I'm getting and we may have a special guest on the show.

01:06:44.308 --> 01:06:48.673
[SPEAKER_02]: I won't spoil it for anybody in case it falls through, but I show speed.

01:06:49.413 --> 01:06:54.780
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm more interested in this special guest than I am in high school speed.

01:06:54.800 --> 01:06:59.687
[SPEAKER_02]: I won't tweet and say it's extremely huge surprise, whatever.

01:06:59.787 --> 01:07:02.130
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's a dream big name, yes, yeah.

01:07:02.711 --> 01:07:06.656
[SPEAKER_02]: I know it's, but it's somebody very important in my work.

01:07:07.457 --> 01:07:13.825
[SPEAKER_03]: Omega and Swerve, yeah, it's the night, yeah, there's first match was awesome.

01:07:14.306 --> 01:07:18.812
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I know John Lorock didn't like to finish, but

01:07:18.792 --> 01:07:20.834
[SPEAKER_03]: I really like the match in of itself.

01:07:20.854 --> 01:07:23.157
[SPEAKER_03]: I really like the finish.

01:07:23.177 --> 01:07:28.423
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, the, oh, we had a nice comment from Jordan here.

01:07:29.124 --> 01:07:30.906
[SPEAKER_03]: Appreciate this Jordan says cheers.

01:07:31.527 --> 01:07:32.828
[SPEAKER_03]: Big fan of fight game media.

01:07:32.848 --> 01:07:33.789
[SPEAKER_03]: Speak in strong style.

01:07:33.829 --> 01:07:37.113
[SPEAKER_03]: The rap power bombshells have become my three favorite live streams.

01:07:37.293 --> 01:07:38.715
[SPEAKER_03]: They appreciate you.

01:07:39.215 --> 01:07:40.016
[SPEAKER_02]: We're number four.

01:07:40.257 --> 01:07:41.458
[SPEAKER_02]: We're number four.

01:07:42.012 --> 01:07:45.658
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, what he's saying is, you guys got to earn it.

01:07:46.139 --> 01:07:47.662
[SPEAKER_03]: I got to earn, you got to earn my love.

01:07:47.722 --> 01:07:51.569
[SPEAKER_03]: Those other shows have been on the network for longer than us.

01:07:51.889 --> 01:07:55.415
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I love that comment, Jordan.

01:07:55.436 --> 01:07:56.778
[SPEAKER_02]: And I love those shows as well.

01:07:56.898 --> 01:07:59.923
[SPEAKER_02]: So I've guessed it on all of them, I think.

01:08:00.404 --> 01:08:00.865
[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah.

01:08:02.043 --> 01:08:24.253
[SPEAKER_03]: All right, so Paul and Jeff will be up Wednesday night and they will recap Swirv in Omega and then yeah, so we have a pretty big show tomorrow and then speaking of strong style on Thursday and then like you said the power Bob shells on Sunday and I will say

01:08:25.533 --> 01:08:27.975
[SPEAKER_03]: I, we're doing Russell Maine.

01:08:28.016 --> 01:08:29.577
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, so we're going to have to do.

01:08:29.597 --> 01:08:32.380
[SPEAKER_03]: I, I keep forgetting that dynasty is the week before Russell Maine.

01:08:33.221 --> 01:08:33.321
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

01:08:33.341 --> 01:08:35.343
[SPEAKER_03]: So we'll figure out the dynasty recap show.

01:08:35.383 --> 01:08:37.805
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm, I'm actually not sure if I can watch dynasty live.

01:08:37.826 --> 01:08:40.889
[SPEAKER_03]: So it might have to be like a Jeremy and, and Kila thing again.

01:08:40.909 --> 01:08:48.416
[SPEAKER_03]: And a lot of people love it when Kila can talk AEW because she's been so she's been WWE since day one since she's done stuff with us.

01:08:48.456 --> 01:08:52.080
[SPEAKER_03]: But when she does crossover, people get to kick out of her talking about AEW.

01:08:52.060 --> 01:09:04.116
[SPEAKER_03]: So maybe one of those things I show for me a couple of weeks go to, so maybe one of those things where Kila is going to help out again because I think I think I'm out of town that entire weekend, is that the same weekend as the U of C show?

01:09:05.177 --> 01:09:14.389
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, oh my gosh, what an I think I'm have to miss that show too, we'll we'll see we'll figure it out, but and I think he needs to know that we can do.

01:09:14.993 --> 01:09:24.006
[SPEAKER_02]: Because remember when when the whole NXT did their show and it's April 4th and they said, well, why don't they just do it the weekend before Mania and everyone's like, well, Teen A's got to show that weekend.

01:09:24.026 --> 01:09:24.747
[SPEAKER_02]: That's why they moved it.

01:09:25.007 --> 01:09:28.892
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm like, AW's got to show that they're running for me.

01:09:28.912 --> 01:09:29.093
[SPEAKER_02]: W now.

01:09:29.133 --> 01:09:32.257
[SPEAKER_02]: They're not going head to head with them anymore, especially NXT.

01:09:32.377 --> 01:09:32.818
[SPEAKER_03]: Come on.

01:09:32.838 --> 01:09:32.938
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

01:09:33.178 --> 01:09:33.459
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

01:09:33.519 --> 01:09:35.882
[SPEAKER_03]: No, you tube NXT on YouTube.

01:09:36.263 --> 01:09:38.065
[SPEAKER_03]: They learn their lesson last year.

01:09:38.045 --> 01:09:48.780
[SPEAKER_03]: But what I'm going to say is we're going to do post shows for WrestleMania both nights and Jeremy and I will do night one, Keline Scott will do night two.

01:09:48.920 --> 01:09:52.725
[SPEAKER_03]: So that's going to be yeah, that'll be a lot of fun.

01:09:52.805 --> 01:09:56.150
[SPEAKER_03]: So we got some lot of stuff coming up in the next three weeks.

01:09:56.170 --> 01:10:01.537
[SPEAKER_03]: There's going to be lots of big shows and we're going to have a lot of fun here as we always do at this time of the year.

01:10:01.577 --> 01:10:02.398
[SPEAKER_03]: So,

01:10:02.378 --> 01:10:08.254
[SPEAKER_03]: For Paul, I am WG, we will see you when we see you peace out.