NJPW New Beginning in Osaka Review: New Japan Cup Bracket & Talent Departures | Speaking of Strong Style

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[SPEAKER_01]: New beginning took place in Osaka in front of a very large crowd and had some really good action on it and some absolutely baffling booking decisions.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to look at those.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We also said farewell to several people.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, the one that was an official goodbye was for her own who talked to Hashi.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We talked about that a lot last week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll talk about his send off and how it's different from a lot of the other send offs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But he was far from the only one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There were a lot of people on that new beginning card that we're not going to see again or anytime soon.

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[SPEAKER_01]: A lot of turnover in the roster coming plus the passing of a former IWGP heavyweight champion plenty to get into today.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So with Jeremy Feinstein, I'm Stephen Conway, this is Speaking of Strong Style.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Welcome everyone to speaking of strong style.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We discussed the news issues and events surrounding New Japan pro wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Jeremy, it wasn't until I did that intro really and wrote it out a little bit before we went on the air that I realized just how much happened this week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It seemed to

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[SPEAKER_01]: come in waves a little bit and it wasn't until I compiled it all that I just thought this was a really eventful week for New Japan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe not some great aid.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Everything happened starting Monday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it was pretty crazy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we're going to break it all down, but I'm a little out of breath and I'm a little bit glad that there's a week before the next show before a fantastic, a mania starts to digest some of this stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And how did you feel your week?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I spent

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[SPEAKER_01]: I also checked in on a lot of unstart and some of the other Japanese promotions, but I've been headfirst into the winter Olympics.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm enjoying the heck out of it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't do the Olympics.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know I'm weird like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just don't care, strangely enough.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just have not an Olympics person or organized sporting tournaments for whatever reason, not the time or place for it, but I just, if you've got my thing, I felt like this week by really fast for me, but nothing particularly crazy happened.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: came back from Japan did my whole trip to a couple of weeks to get back into the routine and now like we're in the week we routine every week and you know when you're just kind of doing the same thing every week and you kind of sticking to it time just kind of moves by pretty fast if you know the fair spieler you know life moves by pretty fast you know stop and take a look around the while you might that's it I feel like given that life is moving by pretty fast

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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like there's a lot of arguing on social media about progressing in a lot of different ways and one of them is Jake Lee and other one who's Brody Bertie King and other one of them is just, you know, shake the tree and something about WWE happens just just general man like it's there go a lot of discourse and to me it was more like

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[SPEAKER_00]: going to back off and wait till Thursday and sit down and chat about some of this stuff because I don't want to I don't want to participate in the cacophony of what becomes a void of noise.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to talk about Jake Lee a little later, of course, because you have the world title shot against you to surgery.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just going to say this before we get to it though.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He is a very divisive figure and it's very rare that I disagree with others so much yet still completely understand their point.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we're gonna talk about when we get there, it's like, I get it guys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you don't like Jake, I get why.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I do, I really do, I don't agree, but it's very rare, like sometimes it's just like, I don't understand, but,

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[SPEAKER_01]: what people don't see.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I don't understand why they don't agree with me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess is the whole thing, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: With Jake, I'm just like, yeah, all right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I got it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, he's not everybody's cup of tea.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's not going to be.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we'll get to a later, but I just want to know now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Did you think that match with good or did you think that match with bad?

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[SPEAKER_01]: now I'm waiting until later to tell you waiting until later to say all right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We have Nick Reeves is here with us and Nick we're going to get to your comments here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Jeremy or as well, Nick just mentioned this though.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll go say this now and he said Nick is saying I tell myself every Olympics I'll watch more than I did last time and that never happens except for basketball and hockey.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just get into the whole thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I was I'm over there watching short track speed skating and I just find the stuff exciting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think part of it is because I don't get to see it the rest of the four years for the most part, you know, but yeah, and I'm watching a lot of curling, but I like the strategy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I enjoy the strategy of it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is one of those scenarios where, like, I get on my soapbox.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I could talk about all the things that I don't like about it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But essentially, I'm yucking other people's young who have, like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: who love this stuff and want to get behind, like the athletes and the pageantry, and like the scales of it being so high.

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[SPEAKER_00]: These are world championships, essentially.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I get it, but just on my thing, I got my reasons.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The only other thing I'll say about the Olympics for a move on a New Japan real quick just because it's been on my mind is, someone put it, and I wish I could remember who said it, put it perfectly, they said the Olympics, if you're not a fan of the sports all the time,

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[SPEAKER_01]: What the Olympics boils down to is you're watching people have the best moments of their lives for two weeks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is true.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I thought, OK, that's a nice way of putting it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So even if I don't understand the ins and outs of alpine skiing and by affluent and all that stuff, bottom line is I'm watching somebody reach the pinnacle of everything they've been working for their whole life.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's satisfying.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And speaking of that, I will say, I've got a wonderful social media clip.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I apologize if I totally derailing this on the account of the old bits.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I've got some dude.

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[SPEAKER_00]: when a gold medal and in his interview and then

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[SPEAKER_00]: Disclosed that he met the love of the Clive.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Love to go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Three months ago, he cheated on the love of his life.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we go, she kicked him out when he told her and that in the greatest moment of his life, he's very sorry, and then he loved her.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Took the platform of winning an Olympic gold medal to apologize for cheating on his wife.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that is, I don't think you're right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He met, he met the woman who could look to go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, they're not married.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, she doesn't look at her.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's one of the great overshares, isn't it really?

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was, it was like, they, they made rom-com with this finale.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The grand gesture.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It does look like that in real life, like this is the trend inversion of the rom-com grand finale moment.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like we're both people to really realize what's important.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, it's just,

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then it happened and I was like, oh, man, that did not go the way you wanted it to.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What's his name?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Curtis is the the writer and director of all the Richard Curtis.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The guy that did was the four weddings in the funeral, not in Hill and all those kind of classic Brom comes from England.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like in the name of that guy needs to get on this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's going to adapt this for Amazon.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is this here?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hello for an end of glad you're with us.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mentioned Jeremy or Nick Reeves with this here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's not maybe cool running.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This could be hot running.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's talk about New Japan now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think we digress enough off of that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So if you want to just see the greatest overshare ever, don't worry, it's all over social media.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, we told you all the best part.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's fine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Fernando says, by the way, rest in peace to the actor of Dawson's Creek and Varsity Blues, he had James Vanderbeek passed away, the boss, Catherine O'Hara, not all that long ago, it's just been rough.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But we also lost a former IWGP World Heavyweight Champion, that was a Tadau Yasada.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I said, World Heavyweight Champion, IWGP Heavyweight Champion is in the original lineage.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Tadau Yasada, now in the midst of everything that's been going on this week,

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[SPEAKER_01]: New beginning and all that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't have a big biography of him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I will next week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That is something I'm going to put together next week for the show on today.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I asked it a very briefly, though, former Sumo wrestler, it was a I think he got up to come to Subi.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He was definitely in Soniac, which is the higher ranks of Simo.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So did well there, but ended up in New Japan and part of the

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[SPEAKER_01]: mix of pro wrestling and MMA that didn't quite work out that well for New Japan over Hall, he was part of all that held the IWGP title once.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll get into it when we go a little bit deeper into Yassada.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There are matches on New Japan world.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yassada wasn't known for having great ones.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, perfectly capable wrestler.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There aren't a lot of classic yassada matches out there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And part of it was, it wasn't his first sport.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't really his true love.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Not that he didn't try, not that he didn't work hard.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think he did.

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[SPEAKER_01]: but maybe you're not going to have a long run of great yassada matches to find in the archives right there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But we'll get into that and where he was in the history of New Japan where the company was and it's a journey from an okism to its resurgence and all that next week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But to now you asked the very sad that he had a complicated life.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There was a possible suicide attempt in there too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, not only with the end of Japan, he was ultimately indebted to a lot of his life.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, there's a lot going on here folks, lot going on here folks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So in order to do it justice, I'll have something for next week that goes into a little bit more depth, but you saw the ceremony for Yassada.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They had a little 10-bell salute and brought out the members of Han Thai and they stood around the ring that was an acknowledgement of his passing this week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's what you saw at New Beginning in Osaka.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Brad is here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The ace of Joshy Brad is with us.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He said he's excited to talk about a solid solid show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a good way to put it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There it was.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was a solid show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I guess it'd be plug.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I enjoyed it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't enjoy it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And like I thought there were things that really took it down from being like an A. Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I did like the way out of the car.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's worth mentioning, by the way, I think these matches were in the exact correct order and the show flowed in a nice way from one thing to the next.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was just a nicely paced show, so good on there for that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: one of those things that I wasn't feeling great yesterday so I think I got home from work like nine a.m. and it took me until five p.m. to finish watching the show just because I was good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was just taking that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I could just not feel great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So like if I miss the thing or two here, I was just watching a match here, I was watching a match there, but I think I got the gist of everything that happened in there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You heard that right by the way, the Jeremy got home for work at nine in the morning.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This man works hours that would kill most normal humans.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, it could eat both.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Douwe're going to West Coast time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, here we go, so now let's mention one other thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They threw a surprise show at us.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like when we went off the air last week We it was not on the schedule to be on NJPW world, but the House show essentially from the road to new beginning show from Osaka at the prefecture of Jim number two, which is in the same building is Eddie on arena

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[SPEAKER_01]: They broadcast that one mostly because of the very first match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Roma talk a house she worked twice on that show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they bumped a young lion match to replace it with Hiromu having his singles match with Masatura.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yasa's a no relation by the way to the former champion the past.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Different yasa's families.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They aren't a common name in Japan.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so it's talk a house.

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[SPEAKER_01]: As it turns out, of course we have two talk a house.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, my story asked it, I mentioned that he wanted to learn from Hiromu, and he did a thing with Taichi, because Yasuda had been paired up with Taichi as the guys from Sapporo, and Taichi said, no, I think that's great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think you should have more than one influence, and go follow, who aren't well then, Hiromu ended up leaving the company.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So before Hiromu could leave, he did get his singles match with Hiromu Takahashi.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hiromu came out to his old

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[SPEAKER_01]: wrestled a young lion style.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you notice Jeremy, he didn't do anything that the young lions don't do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He didn't do any fancy moves.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was a strictly young lion Hiromu match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He just stuck to that core group of young lion wrestling moves that they are allowed to do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And submissions for that matter.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he wrestled Yasuda in Osaka, defeated him, got on the microphone afterwards, said, you know, thank you for looking up to me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I appreciate that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, well, I'm going away.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I want you to keep rolling and I am gifting you my old young lion music, because the young lion said different music back then than the the the current one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Yasuda seemed properly moved by that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought this was nice, Jeremy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Clearly, the acid of the does look up to Heromo, and he did get to have that one singles match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: His final singles match with the company was in my story, I said.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That wasn't a good match, it felt...

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[SPEAKER_00]: It felt like it was just put together the last minute, which it was and I survived it and all that stuff and I think the gesture at the end of giving the little young Hawaiian music to y'all set up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Just part of like hurl who just going through his virtual office and just giving things to all different people out the door that you play out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not going to need this anymore, it's just totally hurl.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was very arom and there were a lot of very arombo things that happened right the way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There was an interesting interaction with he and L. Desperado and the post-mash comments that was interesting to watch too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we'll get to hold that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And all right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that that was about it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The rest of that show is a house show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: In appearance, simple.

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[SPEAKER_01]: A lot of multi-man tags, previews for things that we're going on Wednesday.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So when did you, did you feel obliged to watch the rest of the show?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Just because it was televised?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I get a part of me that like, man, I really, really into my John here after the after on here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to watch it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Everyone's like, all right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was doing the same thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I like do I really need to watch?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe something else.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe something else.

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[UNKNOWN]: Nope.

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[UNKNOWN]: Nope.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I troll.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I trolled.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I trolled.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought I got them sludging through it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I could have been an email.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That show could have been.

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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But we got to Osaka on Wednesday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, the good news is that we've talked last week about how they may have oversaturated the Tokyo market with all the Corican Hall shows and things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: More to come, they're not leaving Tokyo anytime soon, nor will they.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's their home base.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But Osaka does not seem to have had its fill of New Japan because this was a...

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[SPEAKER_01]: All but sold out like single scattered seating here at Ediana Arena on Wednesday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Foundation day I mentioned last week that was a national holiday, which is why I show like this is in the middle of the week instead of on the weekends, but everybody was off.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Ediana Arena now, Ediana Arena shut down after the March Sumo Tournament last year for refurbishment, just opened up, started them ran.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's

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[SPEAKER_01]: pay preview there last week of excellent show as always they drew about 2500 which is one of the largest crowds for women's wrestling in Osaka and a very long time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So they're still thriving there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that was the first I think that was the first wrestling show in the new arena since the

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and then we had this one now after the March tournament, Sumo tournaments coming up, they are going to shut it down for more renovations.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we're not going to be seeing Eddie on arena a whole lot, but Dominion is the next big show in Osaka, as far as like a major show goes usually, and that one's in Osaka, Joe Hall anyhow.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then we had an announcement about that later on here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So just a little venue nerdness that Eddie on arena, they did some of the renovations.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're going to open it up and here we can have some events for a couple of months and then they're going to shut it down again after the similar tournament for the rest of the renovations.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So.

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[SPEAKER_01]: the pre-show match at new beginning in Osaka was the send-off match for Katsuyama Marashima.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So he teamed up with Shomekato, the other one who's about to go on excursional, though.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's going to stay in Japan and work fantastic, Dominic.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Shome will, Shomekato.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's going to work fantastic, Dominia, because he's then going to get on a plane and fly back with the CMLL guys to Mexico and begin his excursion there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But since they were all coming to him,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Might as well get some reps in Japan in the meantime.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They wrestle Togi Makabe in Toro, Yano.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And this match was all about Marashima, since he was the one leaving.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he got a lot of power moves in to make him look good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They shine him up real nice there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But in the end, Makabe had to use the King Kong knee drop.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He had to use the old bruiser brody off the top rope knee drop to beat him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Made him use his A finisher at least, which is a little bit of an honor for Marashima.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then we found out he is off to Europe to WXW, just like you to ice and Oscar did, they went to WXW and other companies in Europe, I'm sure maybe some red pro in there as well for him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But Ketsuya, Marashima, head off to spread his wings and fly, go, go, young man, go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Thomas and match, another big good day to head for this guy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Honestly, I feel like he's got that pedigree in the company who really be high to him and when he comes back, I feel like he'll be somebody.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and hey, you can't complain with what WXW did for Oscar and ice.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right, like they did the work, but they provided the platform.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, so that was the pre-show match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that Mirash mega nice sent off to the crowd seem to appreciate that he was going to be leaving us and coming back some day.

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[SPEAKER_01]: A lot of that until later, type of things going on at this one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: see it down the road.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The Romo talk about how she sent off match was next, and this is a perfect example of it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He teamed with Tayi Gishimori, this is my dream team there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It turns out I forgot in this, they had actually done a odd couple tag team before when they were enemies in the past, but this is the first time they teamed when they wanted to team.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The Romo and Ishimori, against Francesco Akiro and Jacob Austin Young, now

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[SPEAKER_01]: Nick mentions this and it's a key point.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He said I have never seen a send off with so much assurance that the wrestler would be back before.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If they drilled anything into our heads with this all night long is that her own Machaka Hashi will be back someday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's just leaving for now as the message they definitely wanted to send.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so with that in mind,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I felt assured that they weren't going to humiliate him on the way out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, and we didn't get that at all, and a really nice video package about Hiromu led into this match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The match itself was as road to how show match, nothing you wouldn't see it one of those.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Nobody was getting hurt in this match type of thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Bonewalk for the finish, very much by the numbers right there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: After the match, though, Francesco Akira attacked her rumour just to get a little heat right there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Robbie X came out and made the save.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I like that in that Robbie X came out as almost like a transition for Ishimori.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He had this one off with her rumour.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now his regular partner comes back

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think Robbie's great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So the idea that, you know, Haromu's on his way out, Robbie X is back in Japan.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, we're all happy about that, I think.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think Robbie's really talented dude.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So a nice little, not a full passing of the torch, but just as a reminder, hey, we still have another great junior here that you can like.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Haromu got his jacket back and been stolen by Jacobus and young.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So after he tapped out to the bone lock, and Robbie X saved Haromu from Akira,

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[SPEAKER_01]: He got his jacket back, got his happy ending.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They all stood tall in the ring, Robby, Taiji, and Haromu.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So pretty satisfying way over this show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, all over it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like he was accommodating on matches.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He had a match at the beginning, you know, the post show, everything.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It just, you know, if you were ever a Romo appreciation night match, like a Romo appreciation show, this was the show for you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like they just, we just all horrible all the time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Not, not to the level like Tana Haasher, it isn't like that, but just look, shower the two with love and make sure

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[SPEAKER_00]: Nobody gets the wrong idea of how we feel about it on the way out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, Nick mentions the new beginning taught us that many people on the roster may have been closer to her room within me knew about.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Very true, and in the post-match comments he was in the in front of all the sponsor logos and things and he was talking about how it was his final match and Desperado came up to him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They had a little back and forth that was

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[SPEAKER_01]: interesting in that there was also a little bit of pushback against Bushy Road on this show and there would be one later on on the microphone that has caused a bit of a kerfuffle.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But in this one, Desperado and Heromo were just talking back and forth about it and

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[SPEAKER_01]: Semai in character, but not 100% in character, where they just kind of said, you know, we really haven't done anything together in about two years and so yeah, I guess the office just thought it wouldn't be good to put us together and or you know we and we haven't really wrestling each other and all that, but.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Desparado said, you know, I was in a bit of a rut when you came back from excursion.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Desparado was back just before Hiromu was.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he said, I wasn't really in a good spot in my career and having you back really changed things for me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then he had a little bag and he said, you remember this and he handed the bag to Hiromu.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hiromu pulled it out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was the mask that Hiromu had torn off of Desparado

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[SPEAKER_01]: that solidified in the eyes of the fans with a lot of hard cores new the whole time, which is Desperado is a top level guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he had been kind of, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: The junior in Suzuki Goon and not, you know, he and kind of Maro had some title shots and all this kind of stuff, but that match, you think, oh, this guy could be the ace of the division and he turned out to be that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But that match where he had his mask torn off and he ended up pulling the rest of it off and just wrestling the rest of the match without his mask on really the first time we've seen Desparado do that where he just kind of looked at the crowds of the hell that you know I'm still going to beat him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was fantastic, and one of the better matches of Desparado's career, and he said some great ones.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So to see that afterwards, there was a real moment between those guys to rumble cried.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I, and not in a, you know, her own move will

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[SPEAKER_01]: play that kind of silly, the silly fake cry thing sometimes when he's when he would be playfully bullied by the rest of L.I.J.

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[SPEAKER_01]: or something.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This was real.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that was a real moment backstage and then the emotions flew flowed again later.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I just wanted to bring that up just because it brought back a key moment in the career of Despe, who has been carrying that division for the last couple of years.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I watched this show with an acute understanding that her Romu was very important to a lot of people in this roster.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we'll get to some of those moments later on, but just like that stuff that you described with Desperado,

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're all family in a lot of ways, like they see the people and they've spent more time with them than they do their own loved ones get a lot of that in a lot of the situations, you know, being in those buses going down the road like doing the tours.

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[SPEAKER_00]: these guys are brothers and arms and a lot of these things and you know some of them are very lucky to you know have those relationships and work where like you've just been through a lot with the person who's working alongside next to you and when that kind of end there's a trauma to that you know what I mean like when when there's a significant change in someone that you've seen like

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like it or not, that stuff, that stuff messes with you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Jeremy saying, do you think the love was a bit much?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I did to be honest, I think Jeremy, there's a lot going on with the New Japan roster, a lot of turnover.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think that what we saw Wednesday and Osaka was the bubbling up of a lot of,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Feelings and things the guys that kind of kept tamped down a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We...

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[SPEAKER_01]: heard more than one wrestler expressed their frustrations with the company which we don't normally hear including one litter just naming bushy road other saying management uh... meanwhile doing all that while tana has she is sitting ringside and uh... that has been uh... that has a flashback moment to something that happened a very long time ago that we'll get to when the when the talent started to rebel against management on on air

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's happened before in New Japan, but a lot of people leaving, a lot of people not feeling like they're appreciated as much as they had been.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There are a lot of feelings.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so Hiromu going, someone who has been as identified with New Japan as anybody, maybe not Tana Hashi identified with, but one of the most New Japan-y New Japan guys, leaving, I think, has,

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[SPEAKER_01]: brought a lot of things up and it's it almost didn't become real and and I felt the same like you heard me pour my heart out about it last week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, is this is her robot talk a Hashie not in New Japan anymore?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's it seems to have revel a lot of cages and I think a lot of

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[SPEAKER_01]: what's developed over the last year with New Japan and the purse strings and some of the budget stuff and some of the talent decisions have come to the brought a lot of feelings to the surface.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's my impression.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's all totally like well and good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think the appreciation factor for anyone in good standing

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[SPEAKER_00]: that was working in New Japan from like 2016 to 2020 and exciting now is a time to move on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think the company is going to make very legitimate effort to showing their appreciation to them one quick time that they mostly all out the door.

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[SPEAKER_00]: When you were talking about all that, I don't know why I thought of this of all things, but

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to fear completely in less fuel to this, but this goodbye for herromal compared with the goodbye for nighto, man, that relationship between nighto and the new Japan authors must have been so bad by the end that this was the difference.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, do you think I know how to find like goodbye?

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, we went to the back, you did the wave, you know?

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[SPEAKER_00]: He did not get this level of appreciation.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And of course, the evil thing probably had more to do with the Zonscreen character than anything else.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You don't do a big warm cuddly goodbye ceremony for the nastiest heel in the game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, that whole thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But let me ask you this though.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you think?

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[SPEAKER_01]: the difference in the warmth between Hiromo and Naito from the company has to do with the idea that Naito basically went to its most direct competitor.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think the fact that he had to wait seven months in order to wrestle anywhere else in Japan

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think they were pissed at him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think they were pissed at night.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, the idea that he was going to go over to Noah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think they knew that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it doesn't appear like Hiromu is destined for full time work and pro wrestling Noah, which, again, is the closest competitor, New Japan has on the men's side or a lot of people I think he's going to WWE.

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[SPEAKER_00]: a lot of people think so.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's so weird.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, yeah, I think they can make it work.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I could see a faction or like a tag team with Evelyn Haromu.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I actually could.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, it's like it's not completely out of the question.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I just, where do you start with them?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I won't start it in NXT, but at the same time,

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[SPEAKER_00]: They shouldn't be in their very long, you know, to be just enough to just have to like get the vibe and then off to the races on SmackDown.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I, what do they do with him on the main race?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just have no idea.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think you can make it work.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think with like I said last week with Takeshida and Okada and EOS guy and this familiarity with Japanese talent and American wrestling in 2026, I don't think the barrier is impossible.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and he has enough natural charisma.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're just being insane on WWE TV.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Get probably like do him a lot of favors, but they're scripted like crazy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, he can't just be her ummo doing like weird, her ummo stuff when the cameras are on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like they want him specifically doing, you know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like they just

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[SPEAKER_01]: He can't blame people for worrying that we're looking at another Tazawa here or the other.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He can't blame people for it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's a lot better than Tazawa ever.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like they treat him like a Shita.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Shita got nowhere and then he left.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Brad says, I hope a role in choices retirement.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to miss seeing him as so.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I guess that just depends on where he ends up if it's a retirement or not, but I want to be like going for the midmobile titles, you consider it the junior heavyweight title.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, if you want to wrestle Carmelo Hayes and I'll get dragged in all of it and all those small or guys that are vying for the United States title, I get that and be into that, but there's always so many of those guys on that roster before he's just doing whatever they want them to do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, so that was it for that match, and then he would come back later.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll talk about that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The war dragons were up next against the United Empire.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is Great O'Conan and Henri.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, this was a very decisive victory for the war dragons.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we got an idea of why after the match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, Drill and Chingo, they sold some on this one, but this was a very decisive win.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They got the war dragon move that one that double team move, kind of the double maiden

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll, excuse me, drill and shingo, they put it on Hanna Rae, they pinned Hanna Rae, clean in the middle of the ring, Hanna Rae, who now lists himself as a free agent.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it appears anyway that he might be on a per appearance basis with New Japan.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Did the job in this one?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Fine match, not bad, but Maloney got on the microphone afterwards and said that he has signed with New Japan and is staying.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that got a big pop out of the crowd.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we'll be seeing the word dragons.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And to me, Jeremy, this is a fairly obvious top-contending team for the knockout brothers going forward.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Knockout brothers have other businesses immediately ahead.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But word dragons versus K.O.B.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm totally down with seeing more.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I wonder how Ann already felt to put up that he had a free agent right after he loses a match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then the other guy on the other team gets on the microphone.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm telling

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[SPEAKER_00]: That must have been fun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, say, I mean, again, if you think about that part of it at all, I'm sure I did, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I didn't think the timing was an accident at all.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But again, if drill is, if drill it takes the deal in science, we don't know what the deal is with an RA.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If they offered him something and he declined it, or if they did not, we don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm not going to sit here and support that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to clarify, I'm laughing awkwardly, not that I actually think this is fun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But three guys in this match are signed a new Japan pro wrestling, the one that isn't did a decisive job in the middle of the ring.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now he is booked in the new Japan cup.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's not like this was a going away.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's going to be there and are he is still, but it's it's very possible that he's basically on a per night deal now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, okay, so I'm assuming that's real.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm assuming it's not k-fabe.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know why it would be over there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean,

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[SPEAKER_00]: He came back after, I don't like over a year away.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, just about, it was about a year, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: For restful kingdom, so you could argue that you've got injury time tacked on from whatever contract that he had.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But at the same time, you've only been wrestling for a month because he came back from wrestling kingdom.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If they weren't going to extend the contract, this would be about the time that he did it and the company could consider them doing right by him because he got, you know, he got to be on wrestling kingdom and then he would have all the programs, you know, for the next show and then that's that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, I think that they should do more with Henry, but it could have been a case if they didn't know what kind of guy that they had from him, you know, coming back from all those injuries, he had some devastating injuries guys like it was it was not great, so

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[SPEAKER_00]: If he goes somewhere else, okay, if they decide to invest in him more next year, he's still only like 33, because the guy is not that like he started being a 16 and, you know, he's been doing this for 16 years or something like that, but he's still way younger than he appears to be.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he's got late in the New Japan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he could probably stick around for a while.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was actually expecting an empire to kind of have a clean sleep of their undercard matches going into the main event.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But sure that didn't have not happening.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then that being unbound company going to an O on the first two matches before we got to the consequential singles matches between the two factions.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and yeah and Nick Reeves says that he was very surprised at the match if or no or even reason then drill is injury.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it did seem like between them softening up shingo with the ribs and doing a K-fay injury angle with shingo to get him off the cards for a while.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then drill is thing where he, you know, his arm was taped up and all that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It didn't seem like they were setting up something for to put the

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, it was all, it was K-F-A, but I know it felt like they were setting up some sort of finish with that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, like, you know, we're going to get them in the ribs and beat them or, or drill a Zarm, but they didn't, it was just straight up when for the Word Regans, and now they're sort of on a trajectory toward the tag team titles again, even though as Nick says, they're in, they're all an unbound company, K-O-B, but unbound company to me looks like the kind of faction where they're hanging on by a thread.

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[SPEAKER_00]: A lot of these people

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we can still rest of each other and it doesn't really wouldn't stop anything there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the more love's everything will be shaken up, I just, I'm firm on this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Brad just mentioned that he loves drill a standing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's the kind of talent that could use more time in New Japan and Brad loves the war dragons.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm a big fan of Maloney.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think he and Shingo work well together.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm happy as you're seeing that Red Pro's a feeder system right now for New Japan, but they're not sending people there for exertion.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, not full time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It seems to be like WXW is the main spot for that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But remember that they worked plenty of repro-show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I said I didn't.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought it was interesting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Nick mentions that O'Conn has felt lost in the shuffle since the United Empire overhaul.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I feel that we'll get even worse if he doesn't have a viable tag partner.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He is drifting in space a bit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He is always, everybody.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sorry, like this is he didn't die.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sorry, he's been for one per non spell.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, they're in about say I apologize.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I know I I'm struggling with that, too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm trying to know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm trying to get it right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So moving on from this match though, it was decent enough action after that we had.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, sorry.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was our graphics.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, the never open weight six man tag team title match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This was Hero Kigoto, Yoshi Hashie, and all like Bolton facing Hartley Jackson, Rio Heo heo heo heo heo heo heo heo heo heo heo heo heo heo heo heo heo heo heo heo heo heo heo heo heo heo heo heo heo heo heo heo heo heo heo heo heo heo heo heo heo heo heo heo heo heo heo heo heo heo heo heo heo heo heo heo heo heo heo heo heo heo heo heo heo heo heo heo heo heo heo heo heo heo heo heo heo heo heo heo heo he

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I mentioned, solid, solid finish, but decisive.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And afterwards, TMDK said in post match comments that they are moving on from the trio's title and focusing on doing well in the new Japan cup.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Of course, Zach is always a book strong in the cup as far as being a tournament wrestler goes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll see what happens with the we wouldn't jackson, but all these guys are in it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but basically, this was a successful defense for a strong, never open-weight six-man team.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, Beishimon and Bolton are a team that could very well hold these things for long while.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But look at match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I like that promo, but that's all the brackets for the New Japan Cup, but I don't feel great for the majority of TMK coming out of that one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, no.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Brad mentioned this match was awesome.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I love these two trio teams.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I could watch them feud all year, but I worry about what is beyond them in the division.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, there could be a really good unbound company team that you could put together almost any combination and send them after that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I am also worried that House of Tortures are going to go back after these guys because I just don't want it anymore.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There was too much House of Tortures involving these belts for way too long.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I was hoping that we could move away from that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But we have no idea what's next for them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Another challenging team has not stepped up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you could probably try and figure out if there's a trio that one of them gets a win over the Yoshi Hashi, Godo, Bolton, or a side of things that kind of dictate to them getting a title shot out of all this because I don't see any one of any one of these guys being the finalist in the

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[SPEAKER_00]: unbound company, feuding with them does seem like a good direction, but also I also feel like they're going to be a lot of stacked and upheaval by like April May.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Cut a very well-being, cut a very well-being.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, so the next one is the global heavyweight title, number one contendership match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And this was on Dronell, Edelowe, and Gabe Kid.

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[SPEAKER_01]: When about 14, 20, we figured we knew that Gabe Kid is going to be at best splitting his time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We were talking before the show that you remember how Kevin Knight was supposed to be under contract to both companies.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We haven't seen him since.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like something like that's about to happen with Gabe.

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[SPEAKER_01]: In the end, though, he was just there to put on Droughta over and get him to that global title match at New Beginning USA.

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[SPEAKER_01]: On Droughta's move called the DM ended it, and it was another sea-later promo from Gabe Kid afterwards, pretty emotional one and a good one worth going back and washing, but it's clear that he's going to be away to while he's not booked in the New Japan Cup.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Gabe even mentioned Darby Allen that he's got something he's got at business.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He has to take care of, but he loves New Japan and hopes to be back

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[SPEAKER_01]: one day, but he did it in a much more captivating and emotional way than I just did.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So if you want to check out that promo from the backstage comments, it's worth your time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I definitely wonder if that relationship with the fans that Gid Kid had will ever be what it was close because it never been that way since.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think they care and I think they'll be excited when he'll get back,

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think they're a huge wing in a myth with gayed get in 2026 and in each band perfect.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What a massive wing in a myth.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, you're not wrong, the swing in a myth was written in the stars as soon as he started wrestling for AEW after doing that whole coming out with the Lion Mark on his

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[SPEAKER_00]: of living your time, and then to everything that we thought it was going to be.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, did G1 the here is middle of July, a middle of August, and AEW all in, which is the show that they're aiming for us can be August 30.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I would freely and expect both of these guys to be in the G1 and potentially face each other in the G1 at this point.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, just it makes,

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, like maybe there are night one in Chicago with the G1 and they have a match together again and they run that kind of thing back and, you know, goes in the other direction I feel like not something that may end up happening.

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[SPEAKER_01]: couple of comments here, Jeremy or says that O'Con is the new senata and I actually have a different guy in mind for the new senata.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think there is a new senata, but I don't think it's O'Con, but we'll get to that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He thinks it's O'Con is the new senata.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then Brad mentions that on Droughty looks revitalized and we the fans are better for that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Nick Reeves, a little different.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He said this match didn't quite click for me, which was disappointing since I liked the chemistry in their tag matches last month.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't end drawing it with the way better than Gabe kid in the clash.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but I think that's been true for a while as far as Gabe goes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like his

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[SPEAKER_00]: the I think that like maybe it's the travel back and forth or whatever and they are just saving himself for maybe you know like maybe you just don't want to the ginger stuff because they were a point there where he was really hurting himself trying to like branch out with new moves you know some of those corner spots and you know he was really hurt in the back of his head and he actually scared guys so

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, you kind of take it back to base it to do a bit more of a brawl or style and I did have to replay the finish of the match because it looked like a botch, but it wasn't, you know, it was going to incredibly well timed mid kick and a spinning back and elbow.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, there was a spare back elbow.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then and draw to kind of like does that kitchen up all's like the hell to tap it and then like it like clips on him and it was it will really smart finish and he just goes for a DM finisher and he gets the penthouse you're like, yeah, I like that a lot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no that was fine and yeah, it's also called the message.

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[SPEAKER_01]: that move right there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There has a couple of different names, right there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's also that's it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, you know it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, all right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That means, and Dr. L. A.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And now you thought the match with the war dragons was decisive.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Who, boy, so this one was a good brawl at the beginning.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then Newman wrestled very well once they got in the ring.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Newman was working very hard in this match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Finally, it was, too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think Newman understood that he needed to step up here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think he did, but he was working very, very hard.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Newman ended up hitting multiple finishers and he picked David Finlay up and it didn't backfire on him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They didn't do the usual thing where the hubris of the heel gets in his way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He just kept picking Finlay up from hitting finishers and then finally, the princess cursed, ended the whole thing, very decisive, three count.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was not as violent as the infamous dog pound cage match, but it was similar in how Osprey laid down completely for David Finlay on the way out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh man, Finlay returned to the figurative favor to United Empire here, lays down completely for Calum Newman afterwards.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Finlay stands up in the ring, Bows, Hugs Gato, walks out, touches the lion's mark, Bows once again and says there has been no official announcement.

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[SPEAKER_01]: to put on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There was no ambiguity here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was the end of David Finley in New Japan, at least for now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: First off, this buried in all the other news, that music for Callon Newman rules.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, you like the new tune, you like the new tune.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, this up, make way for the prince kind of like rock ballad.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it reminded me about down to the king triple H is a alternate one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The guy from the guy from the motor head did a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he comes down with the sword and the scabbard.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The sword doesn't come out of the scabbard, but, you know, and he's got his stomp and he calls it it's caliber.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm just like, yeah, all right, you're this is working for me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Brad, it's all in and I think you want this guy in the finals and the cup and I'm not against that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But to me, like, Newman is all about getting him ready for that offspray match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then from the offspray match, take him to the next level.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I think if you go the other route,

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know yet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he needs time for the audience to buy into Jeff Tau legitimate of a threat this guy is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think it was an excellent first step, but it's going to take repetition, just like it took thinly, repetition on a lot of these matches to having the gain out coming like, okay, we really need to take this guy seriously.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If I think he should be a final four in the New Japan Cup, but I don't think he should be in the final.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think he's one of my early favorites for the New Japan Cup, but we'll see how that goes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He looked very, very strong here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was booked to be very, very strong.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And made a point of saying I just did what Osprey could not in post-match comments.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I know not everything in post-match comments means something anymore.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That it's not as true as it used to be, but that one definitely had a meaning to it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: completely selfless, gave Calum everything.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He gave him everything in this map.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, there was no like, okay, I'm going to take like 20% of myself.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, it was he got beat Pillar to post and it's a very end.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He gave the defiant like middle finger to Calum Newman before Calum Newman killed him and gave him the weakest pin of all time just to show how dominant we he had, he had felt

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[SPEAKER_00]: You need to watch it just, just to see like, what giving everything to another wrestler actually is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Melts are on restrooms of a radio just gave them the flowers in terms of like, he's one of the best technical wrestlers out there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's not flashy, he's not special, but everything he does in the ring is just polished and he does everything right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, he's very, very good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's very, very good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We've been praising him on this show for a long time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Brad asks, who's the leader of United Empire?

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[SPEAKER_01]: No matter Jake Lee, I think it was always Newman.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I never thought Jake Lee was the leader of UE.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I always thought that Newman had taken that role and ran from it, ran with it, rather.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Jeremy says, was this Finn's last match and nothing said about it though, as long as he was there, it didn't feel right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He said, yeah, we think that this is Finn like moving on now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, basically, we don't, we don't see Finn like, come, I don't see him coming back to you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, that was a good bye, good bye.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that was a good bye, good bye, good bye.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, he may wrestle for each fan, but he's not going back to his fan anytime soon.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so after that one, that, that settled that business.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then we had Tana Hashan, President came out and he announced that Dominion will also be on national television because the success of Russell kingdom.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so he mentioned that Dominion from Osaka, Joe Hall will be on national TV.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He said you can come to Osaka, Joe Hall, pack the building out, and still get home in time to see the show later that night.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because remember, Russell kingdom was edited down.

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[SPEAKER_01]: into a package that aired a little bit later in the evening.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, Tana Hashie, Pimpin, for Dominion already, but that's a, it did a very healthy number of wrestling them did, and it looks like TVSIA is coming back for more.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, Dominion will be on TVSIA in June.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, now they've got to come up with something big for that show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We don't have to worry about them slacking off on that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do a Jeremy, that's going to be a loaded lineup.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They've got national television

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll see as it comes up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I don't think.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I am too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think we're going to know until we get past on taco and soccer Genesis and all that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But who on the card is so big that they could.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The TV thought he's like, Oh, man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's going to be the main event.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But you know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, they have to have at some point a conversation between New Japan and TV saw he is this is where we're headed and this is the match that we're like building towards.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then TV saw he's like, okay, we're behind it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So what could possibly be that match?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Perhaps a new heel.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just, these are the things that I'm just like, when I saw that, that was the first thing I thought of like, what do they have up their sleeves?

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[SPEAKER_00]: the one that I thought about and I didn't know if this was actually going to tip the needles in Japan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I was wondering if AJ Styles in Yoda suits you for the title, it's big enough at Dominion.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just don't think, I mean, for New Japan fans, we would all be doing cartwheels.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But, uh, for me, it's all he did is that, like, it was TV during like 12 years ago, which was like a big time for New Japan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, like, during a holiday, one of the stars of that career.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm just, I'm trying to figure out if like, is that enough?

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I don't think, I don't think that'll be it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think that'll be the main event of the meeting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you think they could get knock them off?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you know, that's not even up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's not even up to New Japan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't seem like I know, but like.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, turn the way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Keep it pretty bare in here, Steven.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like for what they have planned for this, like if Aaron Wolfe and Yoda Suji could that seem like a very fraught with peril plan?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I forgot to talk about that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't like that one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But Turrin mentions it here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The first person that popped in my head when I heard National TV was Yeroki Godo, just because they could really play up his story.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a possibility if not Goto then, like I said, perhaps a new heel that I feel like is coming out of a certain other storyline we're going to get to in a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That could be it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I think there are chapters before we get to that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Godo is the first one that came to my mind and then I just thought,

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[SPEAKER_01]: bad guy for Yoda to vanquish, then that would be the answer.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, I'm good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Women isn't where what all that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because I'm sorry, Calum Newman and Yoda Suji for a big show like that is not going to move anything at this point.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what I'm saying now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You need to build this guy for that moment and we're not at that moment.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I got four months.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a long time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think for much as enough.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, it's tough nuggets, that's what you got.

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[SPEAKER_01]: How much talent leaving at the same time is actually a good thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's from Plethora 1C.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is, I know it gives new talent a chance.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, in large number of talent, LFWE and I today too, no one saying it was a good thing for crush.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And no, it wasn't.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But it wasn't a good thing for Shawn Michaels and Brett Hart.

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[SPEAKER_01]: which worked out all right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like you said, it's it's a time for the other guys to step up, but they have to be booked correctly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we're about to go through a couple of examples where we can't really have confidence in New Japan knows how to do this anymore.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it go about the talent that you have and how you use them in order to like roll over the interest from the fans because the fans want to be.

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[SPEAKER_00]: engaged and hooked on the wrestlers in the stories, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: They want the whole formula, the wrestling, the wrestlers, and the story that engages them in a way where they want to keep coming back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you're missing the wrestlers, but you have the story and the

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[SPEAKER_00]: the engagement, you're not, you're not a wrestling company, you know, like you're, you're a soap opera.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you need the talent.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think they have the talent, but now look up to, you know, everyone to put that talent and use them to the best of their abilities.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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[SPEAKER_01]: My, my discussion of it is going to be a lot longer than the match itself.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Rennerita and Aaron Wolfe for the never open weight title.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So Wolf comes out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: House of torture jumps in the same thing we've seen a hundred times, the heels jump him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They throw him in the ring, Narita starts beating him down.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He makes a comeback.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He starts doing the judo throws.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He tries the angle slam, but Narita kicks Marty as Sami as he's going up for the angle slam, Marty's down.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He doesn't see the rest of House of torture jump into the ring.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is stuff we have seen dozens of times.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The exact act we have seen dozens of times.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Only there was a difference Jeremy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The biggest name the company has on a main stream basis is Aaron Wolf.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Far more people in Japan on a main stream basis, know who Aaron Wolf is than who Yoda Suji is, or even probably who Hiroshi Tanahashi is, maybe, okay?

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[SPEAKER_01]: This guy is a huge star.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They need him down with more guys from House of Torcher, but not so much.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Then he hits Hell's Giateen and pins Aaron Wolfe for the never open-way title.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Jeremy, what did I text you when I watched this with no context, by the way?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just sent Jeremy a text after I watched this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What was that text?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I believe that Ted said, Nutri-panicked run by a bunch of more all.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the thing is with this,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Every baby face in this entire company has had a house to torture match like this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, where they get jump before the match, then they get attacked during the match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the match goes on and sometimes they overcome it and sometimes they fall short, but every baby face in the company is had a match like this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The difference here is that Aaron Wolf lost it in two minutes and eight seconds.

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[SPEAKER_01]: the one was shorter than most, nor read a crush him, except for a few moves.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They have this guy who was a mainstream star that the fans were interviewed.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you remember the roar in the building?

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[SPEAKER_01]: The building in which you said Jeremy finds out when he came out and took his key off and he was wearing black tights and he had the haircut off.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he realized he's a new Japan.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you remember the roar in the crowd?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I remember.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But the dumbest thing you can do with this guy is make him look like an ordinary wrestler.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they did stupid.

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[SPEAKER_01]: As a matter of fact, they made him look worse than most because at least most of the half-assed baby faces in this company go longer than two minutes and eight seconds with a guy from House of Torture.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And an utter mediocrity like Rennerita has been since he came back from excursion and turned into House of Torture, an utter mediocrity of a heel.

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[SPEAKER_01]: comes in and devastates him plows right through him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, he had help, but for God's sake, they beat down some of the schmuckiest schmucks on the baby face side who lasts longer than two minutes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Here's my question, what the hell could possibly have been the point of doing this?

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[SPEAKER_01]: To make Aaron Wolf-Pay do's why?

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[SPEAKER_01]: What?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So he can go away and train for a while so that he can have good matches?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Why?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Here's a little hint to New Japan.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not the wrestler's job to have good matches.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Their job is to sell tickets.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's a star that job is done.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The only thing that New Japan could do to hurt Aaron Wolfe is to make him look ordinary.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that is what they did right here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Think about this, Jeremy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Aaron Wolfe's first singles lost can only happen one time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It should be a huge deal for him to have his first singles loss.

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[SPEAKER_01]: When did they do it in two minutes to a half asked lazy heel and to give away a belt that he just won.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You cannot make a baby face look like a bigger putst in this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's the dumbest thing they could do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They made him look ordinary.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't care what the plan is if it's going to, they're going to have him win it back on national television.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Guess what?

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[SPEAKER_01]: He already chased and won back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: the one that never opened way title on national television.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He already did it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So there isn't a reason to do that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You could just build up a heel to challenge him for it if you wanted to put them on national TV at the Dominion thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Instead, you made him look like every other not over baby face and your entire not over slumping company.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This was a moronic decision.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There is no justifying this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's no reason to do it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Him going back and getting revenge on Rennerita, everybody beats Rennerita.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It won't mean anything.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The only thing you have done is give away the key moment of his first singles loss in a match that doesn't end up helping anybody, certainly not him, certainly not even Nareda.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This was stupid.

59:27.647 --> 59:33.078
[SPEAKER_01]: It's bad booking and it is a huge symptom of why this company can't get moving.

59:33.299 --> 59:38.209
[SPEAKER_01]: They simply will not get behind anyone and friggin push them.

59:38.358 --> 59:39.139
[SPEAKER_01]: It's stupid.

59:39.259 --> 59:44.906
[SPEAKER_01]: I keep saying, stupid, over and over again, it's only it takes a lack of intelligence to decide to do this in this moment.

59:45.127 --> 59:48.771
[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't care what the next step is for Aaron Wolfe or what they're going to do with them next.

59:49.112 --> 59:50.714
[SPEAKER_01]: This was bad.

59:51.214 --> 59:52.055
[SPEAKER_01]: It was a bad match.

59:52.115 --> 59:52.936
[SPEAKER_01]: It was a bad move.

59:53.036 --> 59:53.817
[SPEAKER_01]: It's bad booking.

59:54.058 --> 59:55.540
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's bad practice going forward.

59:57.782 --> 59:58.363
[SPEAKER_01]: I need a shot.

01:00:01.908 --> 01:00:03.049
[SPEAKER_00]: shot for the work of bad.

01:00:04.936 --> 01:00:12.763
[SPEAKER_01]: What only what the hell the only thing you have to do is not make him look ordinary his job isn't to have great matches.

01:00:12.803 --> 01:00:17.688
[SPEAKER_01]: This to sell tickets Pay as do's who gives a shit.

01:00:18.128 --> 01:00:21.691
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think there's to be paces do's What does that mean?

01:00:21.972 --> 01:00:27.096
[SPEAKER_01]: That's an old wrestler saying if you've got an old broken down Ressler and charge of the things like he needs to pay his dues.

01:00:27.396 --> 01:00:32.361
[SPEAKER_01]: No, you need to sell the tickets Domasses

01:00:35.632 --> 01:00:37.574
[SPEAKER_00]: Is this, is it okay?

01:00:38.615 --> 01:00:41.298
[SPEAKER_00]: Right now, if I tell you that I was fine with it.

01:00:43.240 --> 01:00:44.621
[SPEAKER_00]: Go ahead, try to justify this.

01:00:44.721 --> 01:00:45.782
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not justifying it.

01:00:45.802 --> 01:00:47.244
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm telling you I was fine with it.

01:00:47.644 --> 01:00:50.527
[SPEAKER_00]: Tell us why Daniel, you were sitting there being air in the air.

01:00:50.787 --> 01:00:53.450
[SPEAKER_00]: The only person that made Aaron Wolff an ordinary Terrible.

01:00:55.172 --> 01:01:00.377
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not saying that he was a great wrestler, but he was already a star or don't take him down from being a star.

01:01:01.118 --> 01:01:05.082
[SPEAKER_00]: He can learn to wrestle later.

01:01:06.530 --> 01:01:09.215
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, or I, what do you, how do you want me to answer that?

01:01:09.515 --> 01:01:10.076
[SPEAKER_00]: Just what I'm saying?

01:01:10.096 --> 01:01:16.146
[SPEAKER_00]: Like how many people watch a show compared to settle kingdom where he had that big match and he won the title and everyone cheered.

01:01:16.627 --> 01:01:17.910
[SPEAKER_01]: This is a major plot point.

01:01:17.930 --> 01:01:19.652
[SPEAKER_01]: They just gave away his first loss.

01:01:19.673 --> 01:01:21.015
[SPEAKER_01]: You can build the undefeat.

01:01:21.035 --> 01:01:23.559
[SPEAKER_01]: What is hotter and wrestling than an undefeated star?

01:01:23.599 --> 01:01:31.052
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, look at Goldberg, for God's sake, Goldberg was less talented than Wolf seems to be so far, believe me, he hurts fewer people.

01:01:31.032 --> 01:01:33.480
[SPEAKER_01]: And Wolf can already do more moves than Goldberg ever could.

01:01:33.740 --> 01:01:40.822
[SPEAKER_01]: Goldberg drew a zillion dollars in the United States because they didn't make him look ordinary and look what happened the second they did.

01:01:40.942 --> 01:01:45.075
[SPEAKER_01]: As soon as they beat Goldberg, cool buff faster than anything you have ever seen in wrestling.

01:01:47.266 --> 01:01:48.507
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't disagree.

01:01:48.727 --> 01:01:57.036
[SPEAKER_00]: The only thing that I'm saying here is that like Aaron Wolf, it's not been what he has delivered on.

01:01:57.136 --> 01:02:02.541
[SPEAKER_00]: And if he's not had that much momentum and potential, out the gate that they wanted him to.

01:02:02.701 --> 01:02:06.325
[SPEAKER_00]: And they still have a heel faction that they need to keep viable.

01:02:06.745 --> 01:02:12.251
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm sorry that Redner Rita is the only fucking option left in the plate, but you got to do it.

01:02:12.471 --> 01:02:13.532
[SPEAKER_00]: You got to make him.

01:02:13.812 --> 01:02:14.713
[SPEAKER_00]: You got to do it.

01:02:14.773 --> 01:02:16.395
[SPEAKER_00]: You got to do it.

01:02:16.375 --> 01:02:19.820
[SPEAKER_01]: not in the expense of the only guy in the company that actually has some momentum.

01:02:21.822 --> 01:02:22.563
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you do.

01:02:23.084 --> 01:02:28.371
[SPEAKER_00]: No, Aaron will get I don't back and he'll get to come up in and he'll get better.

01:02:28.511 --> 01:02:35.801
[SPEAKER_00]: But he is in a better position to chase than to defend because he's not that good and he's still next time.

01:02:36.481 --> 01:02:45.994
[SPEAKER_00]: And the company booked themselves into a corner and you can be mad to you turn blue.

01:02:45.974 --> 01:02:47.596
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, no, I hope that's terrible.

01:02:47.696 --> 01:02:56.386
[SPEAKER_00]: No, I think the smoking mirror from Rethyl Kingdom like evil deserves all the credit in the world because he made Aaron Wolffield better than he was.

01:02:56.906 --> 01:03:00.290
[SPEAKER_00]: And now we've seen all these matches and it going to take time.

01:03:00.350 --> 01:03:06.397
[SPEAKER_00]: You and I both talked about the fact that he's going to have these matches where he's going to string together moves.

01:03:06.517 --> 01:03:08.699
[SPEAKER_00]: And then the next match, he can string together a little bit more.

01:03:09.000 --> 01:03:11.222
[SPEAKER_00]: And then after that, he's going to string together a little bit more.

01:03:11.202 --> 01:03:17.888
[SPEAKER_00]: Honestly, how long are you going to be able to be a never open-way champion with that level of progression?

01:03:18.712 --> 01:03:45.715
[SPEAKER_01]: defending the title once a month plenty of times be here you could head you could have had yo in Watto come a Watto is going to challenge dokey for the title right there are natural enemies for house torture the could have come out here and help and have come out and helped him in the past remember they have run in on that's how we got to this whole thing anyway Watto is somebody you're even building up for title shot he and yo could have come in here and counted that he gets the win over to read in this case.

01:03:45.695 --> 01:03:47.805
[SPEAKER_01]: they do that all the time without the church.

01:03:47.845 --> 01:03:48.447
[SPEAKER_01]: That's just it.

01:03:48.990 --> 01:03:55.198
[SPEAKER_01]: This isn't even anything we haven't seen before, except he looked worse than the guys that are in the mid car taking it.

01:03:55.786 --> 01:03:58.809
[SPEAKER_01]: You, his first loss should have been a very big deal.

01:03:58.849 --> 01:04:03.494
[SPEAKER_01]: They're all kinds of ways for him to learn on the job as the never open way champion.

01:04:03.594 --> 01:04:07.938
[SPEAKER_01]: Far worse wrestlers than Aaron Wolff had to go into this pressure.

01:04:07.958 --> 01:04:10.180
[SPEAKER_00]: Now that he doesn't have a title on his shoulder.

01:04:10.200 --> 01:04:14.144
[SPEAKER_01]: Now there is a, the pressure he's supposed to draw the money.

01:04:14.164 --> 01:04:15.565
[SPEAKER_01]: He's supposed to be drawing money.

01:04:15.585 --> 01:04:19.129
[SPEAKER_01]: And he's not supposed to be in the midcard, except on the road two shows.

01:04:19.489 --> 01:04:20.991
[SPEAKER_01]: The smoke and mirror stuff is fine.

01:04:21.011 --> 01:04:22.452
[SPEAKER_01]: He can do that and then he has,

01:04:22.432 --> 01:04:23.894
[SPEAKER_01]: All a fantastic a mania.

01:04:24.375 --> 01:04:28.180
[SPEAKER_01]: He doesn't even have to defend that title again really until what, saccharogenesis.

01:04:28.821 --> 01:04:32.145
[SPEAKER_01]: So I mean, get him past Rennerita, don't make him lose.

01:04:32.165 --> 01:04:34.568
[SPEAKER_01]: You still have his first loss in your pocket.

01:04:34.588 --> 01:04:40.917
[SPEAKER_01]: You can get all the way until almost April before he has to put that title on the line against anybody again and have a singles match.

01:04:41.738 --> 01:04:43.600
[SPEAKER_01]: All kinds of ways you could have done this smarter.

01:04:43.740 --> 01:04:50.970
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know how you're going to react when he lives into bad luck following

01:04:51.338 --> 01:05:02.580
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, but it would probably be a lot like the half the half the half of the half of the half of the half because, you know, a lot of people who come to that show dressed up as empty seats.

01:05:04.180 --> 01:05:06.083
[SPEAKER_01]: Brad mentions it feels like two different companies.

01:05:06.103 --> 01:05:08.086
[SPEAKER_01]: The stuff outside house torture has been good in 2026.

01:05:08.106 --> 01:05:11.752
[SPEAKER_01]: The stuff within it is just not good and brings the mood and the feelings down.

01:05:11.772 --> 01:05:17.380
[SPEAKER_00]: Dave, Dave, they have voice to fill and they have to elevate red immediately into the position that evil is in.

01:05:17.741 --> 01:05:18.141
[SPEAKER_01]: No, they don't.

01:05:18.983 --> 01:05:20.445
[SPEAKER_01]: And you don't have to do it in his expense.

01:05:20.645 --> 01:05:22.167
[SPEAKER_01]: They don't have to do it in his expense.

01:05:22.187 --> 01:05:23.269
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sorry.

01:05:23.587 --> 01:05:30.413
[SPEAKER_00]: Cal Newman and Rennerita are your top heels in 2026 in New Japan, pro wrestling.

01:05:30.433 --> 01:05:35.118
[SPEAKER_00]: And we're going to take a lot of work, a lot of work, to get those guys up to that position.

01:05:35.218 --> 01:05:40.022
[SPEAKER_00]: If there's nobody else in that thing, an Aaron Wolf will sacrifice for that.

01:05:40.042 --> 01:05:49.391
[SPEAKER_00]: I get it and not an easy decision to make, but he had to eat the bag of shit in order for Rennerita to get put into position where the company actually has a top heel.

01:05:49.571 --> 01:05:51.433
[SPEAKER_00]: If you think it would have any top heel, great now.

01:05:51.413 --> 01:05:55.344
[SPEAKER_01]: it's more important to have a baby face and draws.

01:05:55.625 --> 01:05:57.510
[SPEAKER_01]: It's more important to have a person that draws.

01:05:57.550 --> 01:05:58.794
[SPEAKER_00]: Could you suppose to be right now?

01:05:58.814 --> 01:06:01.241
[SPEAKER_00]: Could you suppose to be your top IWGP champion?

01:06:01.622 --> 01:06:03.346
[SPEAKER_00]: Aaron Wolff was a never champion.

01:06:03.427 --> 01:06:06.435
[SPEAKER_00]: If they wanted him to be the top guy in the promotion, he would have won the title.

01:06:06.415 --> 01:06:22.992
[SPEAKER_01]: You would have won the IWGP this is the thing he can do while he's learning you don't have to do it at his expense and make the one guy who's actually got some moment of two guys All right, hey and sushi have some momentum, but for God's sake those are the guys you just featured him on national television Then you look make him look like an idiot.

01:06:23.512 --> 01:06:36.405
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not okay, and the next time they come and next time he comes up on national TV If he's challenging for the title isn't anybody who skipped everything else all the people that aren't watching these shows

01:06:36.385 --> 01:06:36.866
[SPEAKER_01]: stupid.

01:06:36.886 --> 01:06:37.848
[SPEAKER_01]: It didn't have to happen.

01:06:38.910 --> 01:06:46.525
[SPEAKER_01]: You do not have to cut off the momentum of one of the only guys who actually has a bit of a following with New Japan.

01:06:46.746 --> 01:06:49.531
[SPEAKER_01]: In order to get a half-ass guy like Ren and Reed over.

01:06:49.551 --> 01:06:51.495
[SPEAKER_01]: This is just a bad decision.

01:06:51.515 --> 01:06:51.896
[SPEAKER_01]: Bad.

01:06:54.481 --> 01:06:54.722
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

01:06:54.742 --> 01:06:55.423
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

01:06:55.443 --> 01:06:56.465
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's move on to the next one.

01:06:56.545 --> 01:06:57.347
[SPEAKER_01]: This is just...

01:06:57.766 --> 01:07:21.681
[SPEAKER_01]: So then we have the knockout brothers and Shoto Umano and Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Y

01:07:21.661 --> 01:07:23.204
[SPEAKER_01]: had a crisp run.

01:07:23.224 --> 01:07:27.731
[SPEAKER_01]: These guys had all kinds of energy all for them worked very, very well.

01:07:28.493 --> 01:07:31.177
[SPEAKER_01]: And it was the best match in the night by a good long shot here.

01:07:31.357 --> 01:07:32.940
[SPEAKER_01]: And the fans were into it right away.

01:07:33.461 --> 01:07:35.384
[SPEAKER_01]: They blew Duminow, which was not a surprise.

01:07:35.404 --> 01:07:37.508
[SPEAKER_01]: A lot of KOB chance, not a surprise.

01:07:37.528 --> 01:07:38.690
[SPEAKER_01]: Those guys are over right now.

01:07:38.750 --> 01:07:42.336
[SPEAKER_01]: They feel like the crowd is with them.

01:07:42.434 --> 01:07:50.926
[SPEAKER_01]: Boymura and ice were terrific together and you know one thing I noticed Jeremy is it seems like every time You know ice is in a big match.

01:07:50.946 --> 01:08:07.429
[SPEAKER_01]: I end up saying that oh he has really good chemistry with x And you know it's like whoever they put you know ice in there with he gets something interesting out of And I remember saying with OEW I thought oh I'd like to see this more because ice and OEW have good chemistry and then I said it again and about

01:08:07.409 --> 01:08:10.519
[SPEAKER_01]: ECE, where I just said, oh, yeah, ice and ECE is really good.

01:08:10.539 --> 01:08:12.124
[SPEAKER_01]: Now it's with a little more.

01:08:12.144 --> 01:08:16.137
[SPEAKER_01]: There's starting to be a trend here that you know, ice is pretty good with just about everybody.

01:08:16.353 --> 01:08:17.034
[SPEAKER_01]: Excellent match.

01:08:18.216 --> 01:08:22.181
[SPEAKER_01]: Both Umano and Ueimura ended up taking the knockout bomb there.

01:08:22.322 --> 01:08:24.144
[SPEAKER_01]: Ueimura was the legal man at the time.

01:08:24.585 --> 01:08:29.672
[SPEAKER_01]: But one on Umano was more to neutralize him as it came down to it, but they were trying to hit their big moves on each other.

01:08:30.073 --> 01:08:33.478
[SPEAKER_01]: Ueimura actually hit the deadbolt on ice, but ostrich managed to break it up.

01:08:34.058 --> 01:08:40.808
[SPEAKER_01]: That KOB on Ueimura was the finisher it ended the whole thing and it was the victory now.

01:08:41.024 --> 01:08:54.405
[SPEAKER_01]: To clarify, I said that there was only, there were only two viable, passable, acceptable finishes for this, which is either Uemora and Umano succeed in when the titles or there is a turn.

01:08:54.725 --> 01:09:00.574
[SPEAKER_01]: I want to clarify because I didn't say it, but it, the turn doesn't have to come immediately after the match.

01:09:00.594 --> 01:09:00.695
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

01:09:00.715 --> 01:09:01.356
[SPEAKER_01]: That's not what I tried to say.

01:09:01.376 --> 01:09:05.462
[SPEAKER_01]: So, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I,

01:09:05.442 --> 01:09:21.966
[SPEAKER_01]: The seeds have been planted a little bit and here's what I mean, they got to follow through on it and I know that they have asked to stuff a lot, but I just said what they can't do is just go back to saying I'm going to pull myself up from the bootstraps and learn from this loss because we've heard too much over the past four years with both these guys.

01:09:23.144 --> 01:09:24.326
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what Wayne Moore did.

01:09:24.366 --> 01:09:26.448
[SPEAKER_01]: He did an absolute cut and paste promo.

01:09:26.709 --> 01:09:27.750
[SPEAKER_01]: We've heard it from Shota.

01:09:28.331 --> 01:09:32.256
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, we were going more, it's the same minute and a half.

01:09:32.637 --> 01:09:33.698
[SPEAKER_01]: Means absolutely nothing.

01:09:34.459 --> 01:09:35.200
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll learn from this.

01:09:35.461 --> 01:09:36.202
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll move forward.

01:09:36.262 --> 01:09:37.884
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to carry a new Japan shut up.

01:09:38.004 --> 01:09:39.146
[SPEAKER_01]: No, you're not.

01:09:39.686 --> 01:09:42.891
[SPEAKER_01]: This is the guy Jeremy Orr that I think is the next Sanada.

01:09:43.131 --> 01:09:46.175
[SPEAKER_01]: It's you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, in that healthy Sanada.

01:09:46.195 --> 01:09:49.860
[SPEAKER_01]: And the guy that has good matches, but is not the guy.

01:09:49.992 --> 01:09:56.762
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think that's more and more way more because just the lack of creativity in this promos, I mean, he only has two promos.

01:09:56.802 --> 01:10:01.249
[SPEAKER_01]: The one where he wins, the one where he loses, and neither one is particularly captivating.

01:10:01.589 --> 01:10:05.155
[SPEAKER_01]: He goes nerdy, wrestles well, but he's not the guy.

01:10:05.215 --> 01:10:08.700
[SPEAKER_01]: So I think this is actually the next sonata, upper midcard guy.

01:10:10.182 --> 01:10:14.268
[SPEAKER_01]: Omeno and his did acknowledge that I'm full crap.

01:10:14.409 --> 01:10:17.974
[SPEAKER_01]: I keep saying the same things over and over again, and I keep losing.

01:10:18.798 --> 01:10:28.468
[SPEAKER_01]: I say I'm going to get better and I don't I say that next time I'm going to succeed and I fail I'm I'm full of it and I can't just sit here and say it anymore.

01:10:28.488 --> 01:10:44.063
[SPEAKER_01]: Something's got to change me was weighing on his back on the concrete floor and he rolls up Then immediately who we more against down there and babbles the same crap that Umino was just saying that he wasn't gonna do anymore So I thought that was an interesting little thing there seeds have been planted

01:10:44.043 --> 01:10:48.768
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know which one might turn heel, maybe it'll light a fire under Uemora, if it's him.

01:10:49.729 --> 01:10:54.454
[SPEAKER_01]: It feels like it ought to be Umino, but either way, then knockout brothers are moving on.

01:10:54.614 --> 01:10:56.836
[SPEAKER_01]: Their next match is against Gates of Agony, Jeremy.

01:10:56.856 --> 01:10:58.678
[SPEAKER_01]: We had the lights going out after the match.

01:10:59.359 --> 01:11:00.460
[SPEAKER_01]: And Ricochet came on.

01:11:00.981 --> 01:11:08.869
[SPEAKER_01]: Ricochet, challenging Tayi Jishi, Mori to a match, and then knockout brothers and Gates of Agony ran when he got out of random, but the first one would have ran.

01:11:08.933 --> 01:11:15.604
[SPEAKER_01]: very random, but I'm not complaining about getting ishymori and ricochet in a match and then gates of agony and KOB ought to be pretty darn good.

01:11:16.385 --> 01:11:24.238
[SPEAKER_01]: Perhaps some seeds planted for Umano and Uemora, but those are my thoughts coming out of this one is that maybe Uemora is an excellent wrestler.

01:11:24.458 --> 01:11:27.102
[SPEAKER_01]: This is a great match, but he's just not the guy.

01:11:27.723 --> 01:11:32.731
[SPEAKER_01]: Whereas Umano might be getting ready to actually make the change that can help him.

01:11:32.751 --> 01:11:34.975
[SPEAKER_00]: See, I think Uemora is the guy.

01:11:35.883 --> 01:11:38.687
[SPEAKER_01]: Stop it's clearly not he just had never promo.

01:11:38.707 --> 01:11:50.625
[SPEAKER_01]: This just he doesn't have the charisma and like his promels are exactly the same one night to the next exactly There's no creativity Okay, but yeah, so that's how I feel about you.

01:11:50.645 --> 01:11:58.617
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think I think showed of turning I think it would be best for him to turn I mentioned that we were with Newman and Rennerine.

01:11:58.637 --> 01:12:02.182
[SPEAKER_00]: I was like they don't have a top heel They don't have a compelling top guy.

01:12:02.342 --> 01:12:03.544
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that like

01:12:05.026 --> 01:12:15.619
[SPEAKER_00]: Just your mad that you're a bad guy and your mad of the thing that he does now that he's gone bad and he's that guy and I'm pretty convinced that and I think.

01:12:17.501 --> 01:12:28.435
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, we're getting to the European cup review, but not the both were the bracket break and we're doing the previous in a couple weeks, but if you if you look at that there they're going to match up in the final six to stare right at me.

01:12:29.225 --> 01:12:36.543
[SPEAKER_01]: Can you imagine to Umano as a heel has a lot of interesting things about they already want to boo him anyway, right?

01:12:37.305 --> 01:12:45.445
[SPEAKER_01]: He has a bit of a punchable face to him and I was thinking about one other thing like a heel Umano in a main event.

01:12:45.678 --> 01:12:49.623
[SPEAKER_01]: doing something behind his father's back to win a match.

01:12:49.903 --> 01:12:56.051
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's one of those moments where the referee kind of knows, but he didn't see it and he can't call it.

01:12:56.071 --> 01:13:03.781
[SPEAKER_01]: And just look his father in the eye as his father reluctantly counts a three knowing that something happened behind his back that he didn't see.

01:13:04.062 --> 01:13:11.331
[SPEAKER_00]: That could really, you had a number of ambiguous situations in the

01:13:12.256 --> 01:13:16.827
[SPEAKER_00]: showed a, you know, kind of taped to the end of Jove's up winning the match.

01:13:17.188 --> 01:13:22.442
[SPEAKER_00]: And by the last match, there's something that he like, no, I'm manipulating the situation.

01:13:22.502 --> 01:13:24.206
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm winning this to win the cup.

01:13:24.727 --> 01:13:28.577
[SPEAKER_00]: I am, I am leaning more and more and more to work that direction.

01:13:28.557 --> 01:13:29.859
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and don't forget the cup.

01:13:29.919 --> 01:13:31.180
[SPEAKER_01]: I believe it was the cup last year.

01:13:31.260 --> 01:13:33.864
[SPEAKER_01]: Wasn't it where David Finlay said you want to do this.

01:13:33.884 --> 01:13:34.865
[SPEAKER_01]: You got to be more like me.

01:13:35.846 --> 01:13:37.789
[SPEAKER_01]: And Oman O'Connor not at Adam a little bit.

01:13:37.829 --> 01:13:40.893
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't I don't have that verbatim, but that it was that was the mess.

01:13:40.973 --> 01:13:42.235
[SPEAKER_01]: Showed over to the final last year.

01:13:42.735 --> 01:13:43.556
[SPEAKER_01]: There you go.

01:13:43.576 --> 01:13:47.021
[SPEAKER_01]: And Jeremy said, why nothing happened with you and showed after doesn't make any sense.

01:13:47.521 --> 01:13:48.803
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it might be common.

01:13:48.863 --> 01:13:49.824
[SPEAKER_01]: They might do it in the cup.

01:13:50.405 --> 01:13:55.932
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, for an asiocese degrees and that it has a lot of potential and Brett.

01:13:56.806 --> 01:13:59.289
[SPEAKER_01]: Just give KOB the tag team of the year award now.

01:13:59.629 --> 01:14:02.612
[SPEAKER_01]: These dudes are at and rough storm have been a really good team.

01:14:03.433 --> 01:14:05.074
[SPEAKER_01]: Rough storm being, oh, I'm more at aluminum.

01:14:05.715 --> 01:14:06.856
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I really like the match.

01:14:07.096 --> 01:14:17.227
[SPEAKER_00]: I was looking for the match that I was circling and looking forward to when the show was announced when the match went out the day before the show and the day of the show.

01:14:17.727 --> 01:14:21.531
[SPEAKER_00]: This was the one I have really loved.

01:14:21.511 --> 01:14:28.723
[SPEAKER_00]: We don't talk about enough, but Uya and Shota have been in some of the best tag team matches of the year so far.

01:14:29.103 --> 01:14:31.106
[SPEAKER_00]: Like this is an, this is an enaberation.

01:14:31.527 --> 01:14:38.338
[SPEAKER_00]: Like they have worked exceptionally well in some top matches since the start of the year and they deserve all the credit.

01:14:38.842 --> 01:14:44.587
[SPEAKER_01]: And I've been saying for a long time that they should be feuding, because I do think they have good chemistry against each other too.

01:14:45.548 --> 01:14:46.229
[SPEAKER_01]: But you're right.

01:14:46.249 --> 01:14:48.731
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a tag team that they've been excellent.

01:14:48.751 --> 01:14:49.872
[SPEAKER_01]: And Brad, this is this.

01:14:50.153 --> 01:14:50.913
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, this is cheeky.

01:14:51.174 --> 01:14:54.677
[SPEAKER_01]: He says, show to is rewarded with this great run by getting Chase Owens in the first round.

01:14:54.757 --> 01:14:56.438
[SPEAKER_01]: Followed by Yujero in the second round.

01:14:56.459 --> 01:14:59.601
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, we're going to talk about that bracket and it does set up, well, for show to them.

01:14:59.682 --> 01:15:00.562
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not touching that one.

01:15:01.183 --> 01:15:08.730
[SPEAKER_01]: And that well, well, that there's a couple of subtexts of that because he ends with,

01:15:09.470 --> 01:15:12.194
[SPEAKER_01]: Moving on to the next thing, if you know, you know.

01:15:12.595 --> 01:15:12.856
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

01:15:13.977 --> 01:15:14.458
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I know.

01:15:15.139 --> 01:15:15.620
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we do.

01:15:16.141 --> 01:15:19.166
[SPEAKER_01]: Next match is going to be for the World Heavyweight title.

01:15:19.326 --> 01:15:23.453
[SPEAKER_01]: And this is the one, there you go, that is divisive.

01:15:23.813 --> 01:15:25.035
[SPEAKER_01]: And I get, why?

01:15:25.055 --> 01:15:25.736
[SPEAKER_01]: I get, why?

01:15:25.877 --> 01:15:29.402
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, so Jake Lee challenging off, Yoda Sergei.

01:15:30.084 --> 01:15:35.292
[SPEAKER_01]: I understand, so this one went 23 minutes and 40 seconds.

01:15:35.930 --> 01:15:41.397
[SPEAKER_01]: a little much a little much and like I mean, I'm actually not actually in that bad even.

01:15:42.258 --> 01:15:42.999
[SPEAKER_01]: And not a whole lot.

01:15:43.560 --> 01:15:47.625
[SPEAKER_01]: Lee is for indulging me and Lee is not going to be everybody's deputy.

01:15:48.566 --> 01:15:51.310
[SPEAKER_01]: So she went after his knee and Lee sold that.

01:15:51.330 --> 01:15:52.391
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought pretty effectively.

01:15:53.112 --> 01:15:55.715
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a lot of mine games in this match.

01:15:55.775 --> 01:15:57.597
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what you're going to get from Jake Lee.

01:15:57.778 --> 01:16:05.127
[SPEAKER_01]: He isn't a move machine like going to get to catch this

01:16:06.119 --> 01:16:09.041
[SPEAKER_01]: Chokeslam after Sugey kicked out.

01:16:10.383 --> 01:16:13.785
[SPEAKER_01]: Excuse me, he hit a Chokeslam back, woke the crowd up a little bit, got him into it.

01:16:15.287 --> 01:16:21.252
[SPEAKER_01]: He got Sugey to charge like Sugey to catch the did at Russell Kingdom, but he hit a knee coming off of it.

01:16:22.613 --> 01:16:31.420
[SPEAKER_01]: So the whole match was about how he was messing with Sugey's head and getting him to make mistakes with the psychology in the end, though, he succumbed to a gene blast.

01:16:31.440 --> 01:16:35.704
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm losing my voice here a little bit, but he hit the full gene blast to get the pinfall.

01:16:37.507 --> 01:16:44.118
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I do understand, Jake Lee isn't going to give you the classic strong style New Japan main event.

01:16:44.959 --> 01:16:48.866
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's why I was saying that Suji was going to have to do a lot of heavy lifting in this one.

01:16:49.306 --> 01:16:49.447
[SPEAKER_01]: Sure.

01:16:50.168 --> 01:16:54.775
[SPEAKER_01]: Your mileage may vary as to whether or not he was able to lift it or if this thing just got weighed down.

01:16:55.837 --> 01:16:57.540
[SPEAKER_01]: I finally captivating.

01:16:58.583 --> 01:17:00.606
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think he's interesting.

01:17:00.706 --> 01:17:01.908
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's promos or fun.

01:17:02.809 --> 01:17:10.680
[SPEAKER_01]: I think the way he came back, this was the correct move, because this is exactly what it should have been, which is a title defense that Susan can win.

01:17:11.661 --> 01:17:15.827
[SPEAKER_01]: And Lee is not going to be in the world title picture all the time going forward.

01:17:15.907 --> 01:17:20.914
[SPEAKER_01]: I think Newman is the main event guy going forward for the United Empire.

01:17:21.615 --> 01:17:23.017
[SPEAKER_01]: But this is a guy that can bring back.

01:17:23.918 --> 01:17:27.763
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a return, it's a big name.

01:17:28.317 --> 01:17:33.725
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think Lee is mostly that upper mid-card guy, not a world title guy.

01:17:33.745 --> 01:17:36.529
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think this mentioned demonstrated why.

01:17:36.549 --> 01:17:43.779
[SPEAKER_01]: I find him interesting, but as the main event of a major show like this, it's probably not the correct formula for New Japan.

01:17:44.200 --> 01:17:44.941
[SPEAKER_01]: What are your thoughts?

01:17:45.902 --> 01:17:57.379
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, the bottom end two years ago, he was there for four months to the G1s then did a multi-man tour of ACL, disappeared for 14 months and come back.

01:17:57.443 --> 01:18:06.897
[SPEAKER_00]: There really no opportunity other than now for them to just be like, okay, we got to put you in a world title match, you know, you do it down the line.

01:18:07.636 --> 01:18:09.499
[SPEAKER_00]: He maybe loses that impact.

01:18:09.519 --> 01:18:13.083
[SPEAKER_00]: You do it now and you just get it out of the way.

01:18:13.104 --> 01:18:14.646
[SPEAKER_00]: And here's the thing.

01:18:14.706 --> 01:18:20.574
[SPEAKER_00]: There's a little bit of meta to Jake Lee threatening in the main event from here on out.

01:18:20.994 --> 01:18:21.976
[SPEAKER_00]: We saw the match.

01:18:22.817 --> 01:18:24.659
[SPEAKER_00]: It was not well-received.

01:18:25.420 --> 01:18:29.466
[SPEAKER_00]: The chances of them doing the match again are pretty luck.

01:18:30.227 --> 01:18:36.816
[SPEAKER_00]: But the chances of them threatening to do the match in various

01:18:37.370 --> 01:18:42.300
[SPEAKER_00]: elimination all of the things now exists in perpetuity.

01:18:42.421 --> 01:18:52.482
[SPEAKER_00]: He's enough of a player where you can look at him and argue, oh, he might fit in right here if someone who could threaten in the G1 or this or that.

01:18:52.582 --> 01:18:55.969
[SPEAKER_00]: There's just his viability.

01:18:56.489 --> 01:19:03.838
[SPEAKER_00]: is now increased because of the opportunity in the fact that he was in the IWGP title picture conversation.

01:19:04.419 --> 01:19:04.920
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?

01:19:05.060 --> 01:19:19.578
[SPEAKER_00]: He doesn't have to ever win it, but it's almost like the way that they had evil when the title from night on which I wanted to bring up because evil winning the title from night on was a two and three quarter star match from Dave.

01:19:20.118 --> 01:19:25.365
[SPEAKER_00]: And he called this match, the worst IWGP title match in 10 years.

01:19:25.345 --> 01:19:28.389
[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't know if this was worse than two and three quarters.

01:19:30.892 --> 01:19:34.476
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's, uh, like I said, the, it's, it's a different style.

01:19:34.717 --> 01:19:36.980
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think you hit the nail on the head.

01:19:37.300 --> 01:19:38.321
[SPEAKER_01]: This was the time to do it.

01:19:39.523 --> 01:19:40.364
[SPEAKER_01]: You don't have to do it again.

01:19:40.404 --> 01:19:41.585
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

01:19:41.605 --> 01:19:43.287
[SPEAKER_01]: And surgery needed to win.

01:19:43.888 --> 01:19:45.250
[SPEAKER_00]: He just needed to do tasks.

01:19:45.370 --> 01:19:49.395
[SPEAKER_00]: And at the end of the match, he beat that dude black and blue.

01:19:49.544 --> 01:19:51.768
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and he can be on to the next time.

01:19:51.788 --> 01:20:02.087
[SPEAKER_01]: So he's probably, he's almost certainly going to beat Andre and, and then he's, he moves on, he should have some opponents he can beat to establish it and this is a good way to do it.

01:20:02.147 --> 01:20:11.063
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's the fact that he's going through jakely and the fact that he's going through and dropping that don't give a lot to the idea that he will go through cowelm after that.

01:20:11.228 --> 01:20:18.557
[SPEAKER_00]: But I also really want them to keep calm away until he's never won a title.

01:20:18.637 --> 01:20:21.060
[SPEAKER_00]: And now we're talking about a WGP world title.

01:20:21.100 --> 01:20:23.864
[SPEAKER_00]: It's just really fast.

01:20:23.884 --> 01:20:24.985
[SPEAKER_00]: It is really fast.

01:20:25.245 --> 01:20:28.589
[SPEAKER_00]: And the end game right now for Calvin Newman is Will Offspray.

01:20:28.630 --> 01:20:29.711
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not the world title.

01:20:29.731 --> 01:20:35.498
[SPEAKER_00]: And Will Offspray, if not going to be in the IWGP world title picture, he's in the conversation to get back.

01:20:35.579 --> 01:20:39.509
[SPEAKER_00]: with Cal Newman and reunite with them and get United Empire and support him.

01:20:40.071 --> 01:20:43.279
[SPEAKER_01]: So when might that happen, the one is well going to be.

01:20:43.299 --> 01:20:47.530
[SPEAKER_00]: But that's got to be at least, you know, October, November, December.

01:20:47.628 --> 01:20:50.332
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so Numan needs to be doing other things in the meantime.

01:20:50.352 --> 01:20:51.935
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't need to be doing the other thing.

01:20:52.035 --> 01:21:01.169
[SPEAKER_00]: But if you try and get him to fly too close to the sun and then he fails, you lose that the teeth that he has getting him ready for that will all spray match.

01:21:01.530 --> 01:21:10.243
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, you need to be having him blow, but surely chipping away it guys, that in some way or shape or form remind you of will all spray.

01:21:10.223 --> 01:21:18.682
[SPEAKER_00]: you know, just a guy here, a guy there that he's just kind of knocking off the perch, you know, like, he'll take out El Fantasma when I'm at, she'll like down the line.

01:21:18.723 --> 01:21:24.255
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, something like that, where it's just like, slowly but surely you're like, okay, I need to take this guy a little more seriously.

01:21:24.355 --> 01:21:26.781
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, I need to take this guy a little more seriously.

01:21:26.761 --> 01:21:29.424
[SPEAKER_00]: but he's not and I got to stress this.

01:21:29.465 --> 01:21:46.086
[SPEAKER_00]: He is not in a position to like shoot him to the moon because you have so much time with him and you don't like there are other people that you need to focus on first and he has a B plot when you have A plot going on right now.

01:21:46.420 --> 01:21:51.250
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think they might have them for faster track than you have them anyway.

01:21:51.371 --> 01:21:58.406
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that might be a player, but I don't think he's going to be, he'll be a player the way that film he was a player.

01:21:58.426 --> 01:22:02.174
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, like, film he never won the title, but he was always kind of in the conversation.

01:22:02.735 --> 01:22:06.403
[SPEAKER_00]: And it took him a while to even get to an IGWG title match.

01:22:06.383 --> 01:22:22.028
[SPEAKER_01]: I think Finlay, the timing didn't work out, and that just as they were thinking hard about really propelling him to the top, that's when the ambiguity came about whether he was staying, and they just had to take the foot, they just had to protect themselves to take the foot off the gas.

01:22:22.168 --> 01:22:25.334
[SPEAKER_00]: I think they knew after he was going, and yeah, I think so.

01:22:25.354 --> 01:22:29.961
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's what we've got before we go to the top when, and then you should kind of de-escalate it after that.

01:22:29.941 --> 01:22:33.949
[SPEAKER_01]: I think they had big, big plans for him when they had him kill off Osprey.

01:22:34.511 --> 01:22:42.668
[SPEAKER_01]: And then after a while by the time they got to the point where they were about to push him back up on the mountain, they got words you might not be staying.

01:22:42.728 --> 01:22:45.754
[SPEAKER_01]: And then they just couldn't put all those eggs in the basket.

01:22:46.456 --> 01:22:48.861
[SPEAKER_01]: Brad mentioned that Lee has been great during this build.

01:22:48.841 --> 01:22:50.122
[SPEAKER_01]: But boy, and I thought so too.

01:22:50.203 --> 01:22:51.744
[SPEAKER_01]: I enjoyed some of the stuff that they were doing.

01:22:51.945 --> 01:22:54.948
[SPEAKER_01]: As I said, a boy, this was a match that was on the card.

01:22:55.589 --> 01:22:56.650
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's about it.

01:22:56.991 --> 01:23:00.374
[SPEAKER_01]: I find that happening is a V1, yeah, but I'm ready to move on to the next opponent.

01:23:00.395 --> 01:23:01.075
[SPEAKER_01]: I think they are too.

01:23:01.476 --> 01:23:02.517
[SPEAKER_01]: There was nothing.

01:23:02.537 --> 01:23:02.897
[SPEAKER_00]: There was nothing.

01:23:03.018 --> 01:23:03.999
[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, there you go.

01:23:04.039 --> 01:23:07.283
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, there was nothing about Lee coming back at him.

01:23:07.323 --> 01:23:09.826
[SPEAKER_01]: I think that we are indeed on to a new thing.

01:23:09.866 --> 01:23:14.511
[SPEAKER_01]: Certainly, Suji is on to Andrade, because Andrade is the one that

01:23:14.491 --> 01:23:20.645
[SPEAKER_01]: came up to him post match in the in the locker room, not in the locker room, but in the post match comments area.

01:23:21.106 --> 01:23:25.616
[SPEAKER_01]: And mentioned that he was going to take him down when they got to the new beginning of USA.

01:23:26.758 --> 01:23:27.179
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

01:23:27.219 --> 01:23:29.023
[SPEAKER_00]: So, uh, you want to roll this about the time?

01:23:29.594 --> 01:23:31.457
[SPEAKER_01]: No, very quick with a promo.

01:23:31.778 --> 01:23:33.340
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Haromu was brought back out.

01:23:33.440 --> 01:23:44.538
[SPEAKER_01]: Afterwards, Susie said, broke the rest of unbound company out, had Haromu at Japanese commentary brought him back up, and there was more, more gubi is for Haromu, Haromu made a speech.

01:23:44.658 --> 01:23:48.224
[SPEAKER_01]: Again, just the case, you didn't get the message the first six times.

01:23:48.565 --> 01:23:50.588
[SPEAKER_01]: It's goodbye for now, not goodbye forever.

01:23:51.509 --> 01:23:54.454
[SPEAKER_01]: It is not, it's not science, all right, it's about the name.

01:23:54.434 --> 01:24:21.403
[SPEAKER_01]: And then if it could have been the loony tomb red circle with rumble in the middle and then that's all folks and that he'll be back for another episode later on that basically what it was and in the most affecting part of the night you twice absolutely a sobbing mess crying because her homo was leaving and again I didn't realize that much of a connection and maybe you don't it's just a really emotional guy was very sweet he was pulling his hood down over his head to hide his eyes her homo was.

01:24:21.383 --> 01:24:48.353
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, you turned away on the road during most of the speech and then they had to take the group photo at the very end and the minute that he was like turning around the photo the dude was ugly crying and you know, wasn't just like a cry it was like the the whip was quivering the the tear her fly and he just had to hold the hoodie down and

01:24:48.333 --> 01:25:14.678
[SPEAKER_01]: It was just very sweet and like we mentioned here before Nick mentioned it that does seem like he had more of an effect on guys than it had been led on, but allow that's because the character, you know, the character of her almost so we were ever that you wouldn't Wouldn't have a lot of sentimental moments, but here is a chance for the guys to really show how they felt about it.

01:25:15.265 --> 01:25:32.590
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, so that's that and we will get to the the schedule coming up, but I would say Jeremy the fantastic Amani is kind of a side quest and would you pan really the next step the next step for the main story arc comes at the new Japan cup.

01:25:32.610 --> 01:25:33.792
[SPEAKER_01]: So let's bring up that bracket.

01:25:33.832 --> 01:25:37.017
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's see what they gave us here for the pick up.

01:25:37.037 --> 01:25:38.178
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, let's do that not it.

01:25:38.619 --> 01:25:39.400
[SPEAKER_01]: So the cup.

01:25:40.072 --> 01:25:45.917
[SPEAKER_01]: Now we're not going to read all these things that doesn't make for much of a very good podcast, but already been brought up.

01:25:45.937 --> 01:25:52.102
[SPEAKER_01]: The show to Umano has a pretty easy draw until he gets closer to and here it is at the bottom.

01:25:52.162 --> 01:25:58.448
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, Ice and Rio Heo, he went in the first round with the T's of OEWO versus Zach in the second round.

01:25:58.488 --> 01:26:02.171
[SPEAKER_01]: Remember, they love to T's matches like that and not give them to us.

01:26:02.692 --> 01:26:08.897
[SPEAKER_01]: Yoshi Hashi could also face Haroki Goto in the second round, but he has

01:26:08.877 --> 01:26:10.963
[SPEAKER_01]: What other matchups jumped out at you here?

01:26:11.043 --> 01:26:12.547
[SPEAKER_01]: Again, Renderita is set up.

01:26:12.667 --> 01:26:14.532
[SPEAKER_01]: I think for a pretty good run.

01:26:14.572 --> 01:26:21.190
[SPEAKER_01]: And Aaron Wolfe has Don Fale in the first round and then Schingo to Kagi in the second.

01:26:21.812 --> 01:26:24.760
[SPEAKER_01]: And you get way more up.

01:26:25.178 --> 01:26:27.181
[SPEAKER_01]: You, you owe a mora up there in the corner.

01:26:27.321 --> 01:26:34.991
[SPEAKER_01]: He has O'Con in the first crown and also on his end of the bracket, Drillam Aloni and Shingo Takagi in the O'ay mora bracket.

01:26:35.011 --> 01:26:38.436
[SPEAKER_01]: So potential for some excellent singles matches.

01:26:38.456 --> 01:26:43.102
[SPEAKER_01]: But you can see how they've, they've teased the ideas of the war dragons wrestling each other in this tournament.

01:26:43.162 --> 01:26:44.384
[SPEAKER_01]: Be sure on wrestling each other.

01:26:44.744 --> 01:26:46.426
[SPEAKER_01]: Rio Hay and Zach wrestling each other.

01:26:47.047 --> 01:26:54.477
[SPEAKER_01]: And even Tahichi and E. She E. It seems like almost every bracket has a tag team

01:26:54.490 --> 01:27:07.487
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think we're going to get much of those at all really, um, so I will get the lead eight, okay, so, you know, the date on the, the matchups to get you to the 20 us on the 17th and the 15th.

01:27:07.822 --> 01:27:17.777
[SPEAKER_00]: And if you do it right, you have a young guy facing off against a former IWGP champion and three of the four blocks.

01:27:17.817 --> 01:27:20.320
[SPEAKER_00]: You could have you, you were a member of a shingo to cause you.

01:27:20.801 --> 01:27:23.044
[SPEAKER_00]: You could have a rookie go to versus Coward Newman.

01:27:23.345 --> 01:27:27.932
[SPEAKER_00]: You could have showed it to him and over to Zat Saber Jr. And then you got right over in the other corner.

01:27:27.992 --> 01:27:29.194
[SPEAKER_00]: Just a little more.

01:27:29.214 --> 01:27:30.876
[SPEAKER_00]: Other block sheets.

01:27:30.856 --> 01:27:42.974
[SPEAKER_00]: And then you could get to the the final four from there would be like a heal on a face being you and ran on one side and then a healer face being calm and shoulder on the other side.

01:27:43.415 --> 01:27:57.015
[SPEAKER_00]: But I think if you got to the final and show the heads but slowly turning heal and you have kind of a heal show to ever since a face you yeah.

01:27:57.923 --> 01:27:59.567
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's fascinating here, Jeremy.

01:27:59.607 --> 01:28:00.189
[SPEAKER_01]: I'd love to hear.

01:28:00.209 --> 01:28:07.849
[SPEAKER_01]: It has to be just simply random draw for U-DRO talk of Hashi and Hartley Jackson to get a first round by.

01:28:08.831 --> 01:28:12.220
[SPEAKER_00]: Hi, I mean, sometimes the math just works out, Steven.

01:28:13.786 --> 01:28:14.587
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know how that goes.

01:28:14.627 --> 01:28:16.529
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, we're on our way and also get to buy.

01:28:16.649 --> 01:28:21.455
[SPEAKER_00]: And then he's got like, I, I think we're getting Bolton, no one versus Henry.

01:28:21.575 --> 01:28:23.297
[SPEAKER_00]: And then Bolton, no one versus Rennerita.

01:28:23.698 --> 01:28:31.447
[SPEAKER_00]: That kind of feels like where we're going on that one because Bolton, no one was a former never open-way champion.

01:28:31.487 --> 01:28:32.829
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's not really that big of a deal.

01:28:32.849 --> 01:28:35.552
[SPEAKER_00]: If you beat, yeah, you don't need like an old deal.

01:28:35.572 --> 01:28:38.275
[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, I just, he'll face, he'll face.

01:28:38.913 --> 01:28:44.665
[SPEAKER_00]: I was going back and forth that sometimes they might do like face face and heal heal, but they really don't.

01:28:45.206 --> 01:28:49.655
[SPEAKER_00]: It's usually like pretty chalk on the heal faces and all the matchup.

01:28:49.795 --> 01:28:53.403
[SPEAKER_00]: So there's a couple of them that I just look right past.

01:28:53.443 --> 01:28:56.008
[SPEAKER_00]: I think Great O'Conn ain't going anywhere in this tournament.

01:28:56.088 --> 01:28:58.373
[SPEAKER_00]: I think Tahichi and as she are.

01:28:58.353 --> 01:29:13.232
[SPEAKER_00]: going to have fun match it, like, are just going to be served at the altar of Rennerino, which kind of sucks, but it is what it is, but that other side of the bracket, the Oscar and Callum Newman match is a very weird match that I'm kind of here for.

01:29:13.272 --> 01:29:23.365
[SPEAKER_00]: A couple of others, you know, like Jake Lee and Yoshi Hashie, and then Jake Lee, probably in Horokiko, or both going to be matches that happen.

01:29:24.408 --> 01:29:29.115
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so, but yeah, I think my final four are going to be U.O.

01:29:29.175 --> 01:29:30.778
[SPEAKER_00]: Ren, Shota, and Calvin Newman.

01:29:32.781 --> 01:29:34.623
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think that's pretty solid.

01:29:34.643 --> 01:29:37.187
[SPEAKER_01]: And we'll be taking a look at this a lot more as it approaches.

01:29:37.207 --> 01:29:40.472
[SPEAKER_01]: Again, it doesn't really begin until the fourth of March.

01:29:40.592 --> 01:29:41.854
[SPEAKER_01]: Doesn't begin to the fourth of March.

01:29:41.874 --> 01:29:45.319
[SPEAKER_00]: And so you actually won't be here for the show of the first New Japan Cup.

01:29:45.339 --> 01:29:49.185
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm going to have a special guest toast and all reveal that.

01:29:49.505 --> 01:29:51.208
[SPEAKER_00]: I see him from any schedule.

01:29:51.307 --> 01:29:51.788
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

01:29:52.108 --> 01:30:03.986
[SPEAKER_01]: So before all that, we have one show when before we come back here next Thursday, one show as fantastic many of the very first fantastic many of then Wednesday the 18th that's in Yo-Yo-Yo-Yo-Yo.

01:30:05.068 --> 01:30:06.550
[SPEAKER_00]: That's a fantastic and me man.

01:30:07.191 --> 01:30:09.334
[SPEAKER_00]: And that'll be the, I do that every year.

01:30:09.415 --> 01:30:10.717
[SPEAKER_00]: Nobody calls me out on it.

01:30:11.398 --> 01:30:11.778
[SPEAKER_01]: What's that?

01:30:11.838 --> 01:30:12.179
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sorry.

01:30:12.479 --> 01:30:16.926
[SPEAKER_00]: I just call it it's a fantastic of me every fantastic

01:30:17.800 --> 01:30:18.461
[SPEAKER_01]: or I miss that.

01:30:19.703 --> 01:30:21.405
[SPEAKER_00]: But we'll have to get a meat, even.

01:30:21.786 --> 01:30:22.106
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

01:30:22.146 --> 01:30:23.769
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm glad.

01:30:23.789 --> 01:30:29.978
[SPEAKER_01]: So we have a pretty good lineup by the way for that show in Yoyogi, which is a part of Metro Tokyo there.

01:30:30.759 --> 01:30:32.402
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a Black Cat Memorial match.

01:30:33.063 --> 01:30:34.245
[SPEAKER_01]: Of course, that's for the wrestler.

01:30:34.265 --> 01:30:36.568
[SPEAKER_01]: There's been a lot of time in both New Japan and

01:30:36.548 --> 01:30:39.592
[SPEAKER_01]: CMLL or EMLL, I believe them, it's called then.

01:30:39.832 --> 01:30:45.699
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, EMLL would have been Black Cat Memorial Mass Tiger Mask and Steak Month versus Averino and Magnus.

01:30:45.860 --> 01:30:50.726
[SPEAKER_01]: So that would be the final Black Cat Memorial Mass for Tiger Mass courses retiring this summer.

01:30:50.786 --> 01:30:52.468
[SPEAKER_01]: I think you narrowed it down to July, he said.

01:30:53.129 --> 01:31:02.961
[SPEAKER_01]: And then a tag team tournament will be going on throughout Fantastic Mania Tour, Belienta and Futuro will face Shomekato and

01:31:03.262 --> 01:31:06.707
[SPEAKER_01]: And then we also have Atlantis and a lot of you, you have Tukka, right?

01:31:07.308 --> 01:31:09.370
[SPEAKER_01]: Heho Day, S.Tukka, S.Tukka.

01:31:09.390 --> 01:31:12.835
[SPEAKER_00]: Do a bit junior for themselves, like wait a bit, you didn't say that.

01:31:12.855 --> 01:31:13.055
[SPEAKER_01]: I did not.

01:31:13.076 --> 01:31:13.476
[SPEAKER_01]: I did not.

01:31:14.317 --> 01:31:17.421
[SPEAKER_01]: Atlantis and Atlantis Jr. are again, Soakamura and Coachima.

01:31:18.663 --> 01:31:22.388
[SPEAKER_01]: And of course, Soakamura and Coachima used to be the MLW tag team champions.

01:31:22.448 --> 01:31:26.494
[SPEAKER_01]: And then of course, you know, the Atlantis and Atlantis Jr. are the two generation team there.

01:31:27.035 --> 01:31:29.438
[SPEAKER_01]: Mascarad Dorada and Mistiko.

01:31:30.498 --> 01:31:34.645
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, that is uh, well, those are two of the best rest of the world right now.

01:31:34.966 --> 01:31:37.330
[SPEAKER_01]: And they will be facing show and Ultimo Guerrero.

01:31:37.650 --> 01:31:38.712
[SPEAKER_01]: Interesting team there.

01:31:39.153 --> 01:31:43.320
[SPEAKER_01]: Plus, uh, Rob Lampago match is a 10 minute time limit match.

01:31:43.641 --> 01:31:44.522
[SPEAKER_01]: So sprint match.

01:31:45.243 --> 01:31:47.668
[SPEAKER_01]: Temporary over Sobarano Junior.

01:31:47.808 --> 01:31:49.791
[SPEAKER_01]: And that would be a huge match in arena Mexico.

01:31:50.432 --> 01:31:52.336
[SPEAKER_01]: So we're getting it right here in yo yo here right there.

01:31:52.356 --> 01:31:53.738
[SPEAKER_01]: Temporary over on our junior.

01:31:53.778 --> 01:31:55.982
[SPEAKER_01]: So that would be a nice line up in yo yo.

01:31:57.430 --> 01:32:05.982
[SPEAKER_00]: I pretty much just treat fantastic Avenida is I'm going to sit down and I'm going to watch a match and I'll watch a much of a leave right and I'm going to enjoy myself.

01:32:07.044 --> 01:32:21.565
[SPEAKER_01]: So one thing here to Jeremy before we go we want to mention that a Yoda sushi made some comments also have in the post match comments Jeremy or is bringing it up here again I do want to talk about before we go send me the last thing this week.

01:32:22.186 --> 01:32:26.613
[SPEAKER_01]: make some comments about people who play card games and he really didn't.

01:32:26.693 --> 01:32:39.292
[SPEAKER_01]: He really didn't, but, uh, Kadani, the guy from the, one of the big wigs, the Muckity Mucks and Bushy Road, had to go on social media and apologize for something Yoda Suji said.

01:32:39.312 --> 01:32:41.275
[SPEAKER_01]: Jeremy, take us through this controversy, please.

01:32:41.828 --> 01:32:53.706
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, you know, the two team made a comment somehow somewhere that he and the other new spin wrestlers are more than just a card game that they are human being, which factually correct statement.

01:32:54.247 --> 01:33:06.165
[SPEAKER_00]: I believe that I believe this he was making this in part to wage and fair treatment, uh, issues with their employment, which I'm always a big fan of, you know,

01:33:06.145 --> 01:33:10.555
[SPEAKER_00]: labor on the side of worker, so I'm just going to advocate for that one here.

01:33:10.656 --> 01:33:12.400
[SPEAKER_00]: So I totally totally get that.

01:33:12.841 --> 01:33:23.125
[SPEAKER_00]: However, larger than the pro wrestling fanbase in Japan, if the card game playing fanbase in Japan and it's the priority of one bushy road,

01:33:23.105 --> 01:33:39.747
[SPEAKER_00]: So when Yoda Suji sent something to bite the hand that feeds Bushi Road, who she wrote felt nothing more than to strike sand effect the entire thing by apologizing for Yoda Suji's comments highlighting what he said and saying that we are very, very sorry.

01:33:40.486 --> 01:33:44.336
[SPEAKER_01]: And he didn't say anything bad about the card game.

01:33:44.356 --> 01:33:49.731
[SPEAKER_01]: So he just said that we're more than, we're more than characters in a card game.

01:33:49.771 --> 01:33:52.458
[SPEAKER_01]: He did not insult the people to play card games at all.

01:33:52.518 --> 01:33:56.689
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's a very strange reaction from Codani, but this company does strange things.

01:33:56.669 --> 01:34:07.744
[SPEAKER_00]: I think the implication to the company was that somehow like playing cards are more important than human beings and they didn't want, I have to think that there were card game players that were upset.

01:34:07.764 --> 01:34:12.571
[SPEAKER_00]: Like they got feedback from people that were upset about this in Japan and they had to respond to that.

01:34:12.591 --> 01:34:14.814
[SPEAKER_01]: That's not what he said though.

01:34:14.914 --> 01:34:22.204
[SPEAKER_00]: I know you know that, but I mean, we are living in a world of pro wrestling where,

01:34:22.960 --> 01:34:34.692
[SPEAKER_00]: One thing that snowball and something else is very, very easily, including, you know, wrestlers, you know, political beliefs, you know, baking and playing to a television show.

01:34:34.952 --> 01:34:37.780
[SPEAKER_00]: These things are happening, and it's just everything is bleeding over.

01:34:38.806 --> 01:34:39.266
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

01:34:39.306 --> 01:34:44.171
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, with that in mind, we will be giving any updates on that if they come in.

01:34:44.191 --> 01:34:44.872
[SPEAKER_01]: I think not.

01:34:45.392 --> 01:34:49.055
[SPEAKER_00]: I think we'll be moving on to something more fantastic.

01:34:49.075 --> 01:34:49.256
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:34:49.276 --> 01:34:51.418
[SPEAKER_01]: Next week, we'll be talking about the fantastic of Maniatoria.

01:34:51.458 --> 01:34:54.160
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll have gotten underway by the time we come back next Thursday.

01:34:54.200 --> 01:35:06.231
[SPEAKER_01]: Don't forget about Power Bob Shows on Sunday at 1 p.m. Eastern US time plus the dynamite show, the wrap, and all the great shows on the

01:35:06.211 --> 01:35:09.058
[SPEAKER_01]: We're not getting the Kamatachi theme this year.

01:35:09.860 --> 01:35:11.885
[SPEAKER_01]: I know it's the Akamaitashi's not going to be there.

01:35:12.747 --> 01:35:14.792
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll have to see if we get Nama Hague.

01:35:15.374 --> 01:35:17.038
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe Nama Hague will make an appearance.

01:35:17.579 --> 01:35:23.494
[SPEAKER_00]: So the Heromo Beatbox thing audio track is one of the best things about Fantastic Man.

01:35:24.352 --> 01:35:24.874
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

01:35:24.934 --> 01:35:26.258
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, we will be back next week.

01:35:26.299 --> 01:35:29.951
[SPEAKER_01]: Talk about the action prevent us from making preview what's coming up in any other news that comes in.

01:35:29.971 --> 01:35:32.379
[SPEAKER_01]: It seems like it's coming through fast and furious there.

01:35:32.419 --> 01:35:34.205
[SPEAKER_01]: So for Jerry Feinstein, I'm Steve McCown.

01:35:34.225 --> 01:35:35.830
[SPEAKER_01]: We want to thank everybody who joined us live.

01:35:36.192 --> 01:35:40.406
[SPEAKER_01]: Everybody who's listening to this later either on YouTube or as a podcast, we're grateful for your time.

01:35:40.807 --> 01:35:42.613
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