Is Callum Newman the New Foreign Heel? NJPW Cup Finals & Takeshita Return | Speaking of Strong Style

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[SPEAKER_01]: The New Japan Cup 2026 is in the books and we have a new winner of the tournament and we had some really good tournament matches to watch as the tournament came down the stretch.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The undercards still a little rough, crowds still down, but we had terrific semi finals and an excellent finals match as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now whether any of the booking decisions leads to anything good down the road, I'm a lot less convinced.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But we're going to take a look at what happened this past week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: take a look at what's coming up ahead.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And some news and notes around too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We've had some interesting views around the world talk about.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we're going to get into all that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's opening day of baseball season for those to celebrate.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a great day.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So what you're going to be fine, so I'm Stephen Conway.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is Speaking of Strong Style.

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[SPEAKER_01]: On style, we discussed news issues in events around the New Japan pro wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Mochi OB days, it's Thursday, ready to go with another edition of our show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just got done watching the Cubs finish second today.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We finished second today.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Only one team ahead of us Jeremy, team we were playing on fortunately, but nevertheless, it is the first game of a 162 game marathon that is pro baseball, although you're a guy, you're a team, the San Francisco general.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, that's you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I told you, what, everything off last night?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, did we have a game or did we have a net flip to advertise the box night?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Cause I will.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's it, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was you're like, I watched the pre show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it was nice to talk to here, Bongs and, you know, the other guys that were in there at the,

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[SPEAKER_00]: the guy for the Cubs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I I'd plagued on all their day right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: See Anthony Rizzo Anthony Rizzo.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Rizzo, thank you Anthony Rizzo.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He was there and he was charming on the thing, but he was so much to so much advertisement.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And actually, I have a friend who works in Netflix who's project the Stranger Things cartoon did their trailer.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I now have the trailer to get a drop today, but during the whole hubbub, for the thing, I was really happy to hit for him, but dude, I bounced out after the second day.

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[SPEAKER_00]: When that five inning, like, show hacking happened and watching me advertise, let's watch the animal like, you know what?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think I'll come back another day here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, today's, there's, this is the, the sacrificial bag of kettle chips that I ate during the game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I get, I get them twice a year on the rest of Kingdom Day and opening day for the cup.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm still in a good mood, baseball's back, I love baseball.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I enjoy the world baseball classics and terrific games there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So this puts me in a, in a happy mood going into this discussion of the New Japan cup.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I am so happy that you said that you're in a good mood because right now I'm got terrible cold and I'm pretty sure my internet is terrible like streaming back and forth and so you're in for a bad time Steven.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So just have a pong to that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I'm ready for it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If there are issues where we're full of Jeremy's playing hurt today, we appreciate that he's here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's not feeling well at all, and he's not putting it over as sick as he is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But we are not going to be responsible on time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll be all right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he's having internet problems.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So if Jeremy falls off of this podcast, I will continue on and we'll make it all work until Jeremy's able to get back on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we're we're we're playing hurt today.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But we're going to be okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We have

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[SPEAKER_01]: First time in months, we're glad you're here, college, glad Jeremy is with us.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Zach Manger says, Major League Baseball opening day, everyone, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That Netflix thing was just one game yesterday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Today there are 11 games and a few more tomorrow, some team starting off.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, I think like the brave have opening date of tomorrow.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, a few teams.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they staggered out a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So for instance, the co-sponsors.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The comes in the national United States ball game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I'm looking at all the lineups.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And for the first year ever, we were doing head to head now we're just doing points.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's the same thing, but man, I saw my opponent started Paul schemes today.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I started 20 points in the whole like negative 20 points to his entire fantasy day, folks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'll see you start.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, OK, I can get into this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, Collins says he's hopefully back full time now and we hope you are.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're glad to see you here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Collins been commenting on our YouTube page after the podcast is over and he's been able to catch up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But now he's here with this live.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Awesome.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Very good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, oh, and Jeremy's a brave fan too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: My best friend Jeff is a brave fan, so that's you got a lot of that in there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a lot of that in there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's a lot of what's growing up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a fan.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's a fan from power bombshells.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a brave style hard fan too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Growing up there, one of the one you could watch in Southern California, you could watch Dodgers and Angels, obviously, but you don't all could get a plethora of brave and couple games because WGN and PBS, we're nationwide stations.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they both had a superstation to them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the meds were on W-O-R, which was basically a New York base superstation, but I didn't have the reach on cable networks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That far west to see W-O-R on cable.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess if I lived another state or two over to the east, I would have seen a lot of meds games too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, you're right, TBS.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The Braves, I joke with Jeff, and sometimes the Braves were my least favorite team, but sometimes they were preempt

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[SPEAKER_01]: on TBS on Saturday, I would not make me happy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm type of wrestling and all of a sudden it wouldn't be on WCW preempted or there would only be like a 35-minute show because there's a 630 game or something like that it was yeah it was not always easy but there you go we still can click you could hold down the

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[SPEAKER_01]: So as we went into this week, we had the semi-finals were set when last we talked here on the show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They were headed off to Negata and they did two shows in Negata.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to get into how those went.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We left on the optimistic note that we were going to get some better matches and you know, I said the first couple rounds of this tournament were pretty rough, but

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[SPEAKER_01]: We thought that there was a final four that really couldn't miss and thankfully they didn't and I see the Jeremy's here and here a little clearer now here a little clearer now, so I got out of the wrong, uh, the wrong Wi-Fi to be on, man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't be on that Wi-Fi when I do the show and I'm like, yeah, this isn't working.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was about to hot spot my phone and scream.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, all right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The internet for my phone to stream the show because I could hot spot to my back and all that technology.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we're going to go into this cup.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is there anything else you wanted to cover before we start talking on NJ Cup with the semifinals we saw on Friday last week?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, just overall thought on the cup or just are we?

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I mean, is there anything else I'm going to do before we dive into the end of the tournament?

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I'm good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, all right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The end record was worthless as they all have been on this tour.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There was really nothing interesting about it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There were a couple of things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There were a couple of things on Saturday, on finals day, that it worth mentioning, nothing on Friday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we got into the semi-finals.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the first semi-final match was Oleg Bolton versus Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-Yu-

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[SPEAKER_01]: both guys and we more worked.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Bolton's shoulder.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It built nicely.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It went into the big moves probably at about 15 minute mark as when he start to smell the finish coming.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the big move time was great as these guys try to get each other with their finishers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All of Bolton's power stuff really worked.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We more sold it really really well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Bolton tried the kamikaze from the

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[SPEAKER_01]: So they took something they had done early in the tournament and built upon it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Good job.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And a battling over the dead bolt.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He got it, but he didn't get the pen with it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was kind of a release dead bolt.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He didn't just bridge through it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Any hit aces high twice.

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[SPEAKER_01]: uh... the tana hashy finisher to beat oligbolton and move on to the finals it was night nineteen minutes twenty seven seconds this was uh... a fairly tight match it went by very quickly even those twenty minutes long i thought uh... i can't think of anything i would want to edit out of this one and we were on to the finals and uh... this this was very very enjoyable is a long trip to get there because you had to sit through some real

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[SPEAKER_00]: House of torture, he kind of crap and it's a good cheap stuff and, you know, it's a long journey, but once we got there, bolting the noise more and delivered, I'm not going to get technical on where it is in the top five, but I definitely think it was a top five of the tournament, just a really good baby face on maybe face match where they both understood the state of what it meant to get this opportunity and they wrestled each other hard for it, that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: when he tried to go for the, uh, the, the, the hook, who plucked for the pin and he got at that time, but it would shift too close to the rope and, and all we're broken up is like, I can't try that again with this guy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it was something different.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, I kind of appreciated that he respected all of size and knowing that like, he only had one shot at that because that was, that was a difficult move to fall off on that guy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Great match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's that up the other final.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is the main event of the night.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was Calum Numen against Show to Umino.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And this one went 30 minutes, just barely over 30.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The 30 minutes and three seconds according to the sides there that keep track of these things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I noticed Jeremy, there was no Red Shoes Uno as the referee for this one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was Marty Osama, you didn't see Red Shoes at the semi-finals.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was in the semi-final main event.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Esla Snug and deliberate,

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[SPEAKER_01]: but in a very good way they wrestle the match like it was an important match and they weren't going to hurry they weren't going to make mistakes and let their opponents get big openings so I thought it was well worked also

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[SPEAKER_01]: The big spot in this match was they had set up a couple of tables on the outside and then moved away from it for a while.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you had check-offs tables on the outside.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We knew they were coming into play at some point, but the big spot was Newman power bombing Omino from the ring over the top rope all the way through those two tables on the outside.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The bump looked great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was sufficiently long enough after the table set up, the kind of sort of forgot that they were out there, or at least didn't think that's how they were going to go through them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And after that, Jeremy, story of survival for Omeno.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He barely managed, of course, to climb into the ring to continue the match, to tease the count out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then after that, it was him just trying to hang on as Numen tried to finish him off.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so we had a long conversation about who should go forward and who should stay and you were advocating for calendar and when I was looking right past him because I just I didn't think he was there yet and I still I still

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[SPEAKER_00]: Don't because he needs the credible victory.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, he's got to beat you to food you for a ticket that's me that he's at that level, you know?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I just don't think, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I'm just not convinced on Kalam Newman.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He is exceptional, but he's not yet at like, top main event level to me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just keep thinking we're hearing the same things we people were saying about David Finlay a couple of years ago and he I cruise right through though.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I see it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I get it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just he needs that he needed the match with Will to happen and he needs to like put a definitive stamp on it

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[SPEAKER_00]: because I thought what he did in the cup was excellent.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought he got his persona over.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought his work in the ring was over.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like I'm a jerk because like what more is there to do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: to convince me that they are both deemed ahead of them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And there isn't anything that they can do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But this is the cost of not putting over any young guys for a long time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And now they are really just shoving it down the throat.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And like trying to convince you, like, yeah, we're in the care of the now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we saw this all playing out through the entire the cup, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like the young guys making their way up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And...

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[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you so much for being here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, yeah, I mean, but like each one of them, like did that gatekeeper kind of scenario.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And in hindsight, if you put evil, where REN was in the whole block bracketing, it would have had all like beating evil, which would have been another IWGP champion.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And what that would have been, how that was, but they put REN in there instead.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, please.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, go ahead, pardon me, go ahead, please.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I was like, there's a whole other bag of worms with Brendan Rita and the fact that, you know, it's very clear to me that the United Empire is now the number one heel faction in Newspam.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's no argument here like from the way that it's been positioned.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and it seemed very clear to me in the new trend cup that they're fully behind Calum Newman.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't think that's a bad thing, but I can't be held responsible for thinking of like the core of action that you've taken for the many years up to this point is reaping what you're sewing and I'm just having a hard time with it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: As the match continued here, we'll get more into the how United Empire is doing

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[SPEAKER_01]: At first, Newman was smiling, strutting his stuff, and he felt really good about himself.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There were submission holes where Newman was gloating.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And again, Umano was just trying to hang on, hang on, hang on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Showed it up, kicking out of Excalibur, which is not a move that's working much anymore.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess it's maybe that's the one he uses to beat young wines or a low card guys now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the princess curse was turned into a DDT for a hopespot for Romano, but then he hits the princess curse again and wins.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So once again, Shota gets to the precipice and fails, but Newman moves on to the finals.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There was a bit of a clue as to what would happen the next night, because Uri Mora came out and did another one of his lame cliche promos to try to set this thing

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[SPEAKER_01]: didn't give an interview at some point.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know whether it was Friday or Saturday, it didn't really matter which, but he said that he wanted to do more long-term contracts for foreigners and foreign talent, more multi-year deals.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Instead of just one year deals, one year deals, and one year deals, because

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[SPEAKER_01]: Makes sense, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, they've been bitten several times where guys they had big plans for have left.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so, Calum Newman has apparently signed a multi-year deal.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's kind of when I knew how this was gonna go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And now I predicted it before that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I said, this is Calum Newman makes a lot of sense here because it's a guy that seems to compete at SacroGenesis and just winning the cup would be a boost for Newman.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then you can boost your champion to another title to fence.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And all that, I made my case for Newman.

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[SPEAKER_01]: a while back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I really knew when he'd started talking about how he wanted to do more multi-year deals with foreigners, because I just thought, well, what better way to try to recruit these foreigners like multi-year deals, a little financial security, and then look, we back you when we do that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We will put you over when you do that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You will be taken care of, and that's an important message to send to potential free agents.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're not going to sign

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[SPEAKER_01]: Look, here's a guy that signed a multi-year deal and he just went our tournament.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, that type of thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it was billboarded, I felt, going into this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But when we went into the last day, and we're gonna go through the whole card from Saturday because there were some items of consequence on the undercard for a change.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I was feeling pretty good about my pick once I saw time of how she'd say that part out loud.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That roll-tire year contracts for foreign talent is important to him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because to me, that just makes Kalimnum and all the more valuable.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The hold-up is an example of this could be you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, give you a flower.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You, you saw this and you project it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There are.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There were a few people in that sport of pro wrestling, but it was far and away you would be merbing believed to win this thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I never really felt like you was going to win it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So in column one, that magic show looks like I think calcoding this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, it looks like, yeah, if they've been going according to plan, calms should win this, so that you can get you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Yoda, I ruckle kicked them because not really is the big match to do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is it though?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean here's the only big match that they have and we'll get to all that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not even convinced the big match, but here's the here's the key.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I said that Newman would be the choice, but you have to do something with you or show to one of them has to turn there has to be a twist in the tail there has to be something they did that part, but they didn't do the interesting part.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They just did the same old crap, but we'll get to that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What they did with show, but show to his reaction to this is goofy and his new directions even goofier.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So let's get to Saturday and E.Gada because right off the bat, first match of the show, we have the next thing for show to Umano.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, that backstage stuff was showed it, who knows borderline psychotic.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, that we're going to talk about that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but now we finished what we're doing on the same.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to say I get it, but there they're going to leave there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to talk about it in a second, but that showed it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe we've been talking about this forever.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so they went down and we're not using that the conversation coming up in the next few seconds.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The next night in Negata, the same building, the first night they drew about 1900 and 6, 1906, next night they got 3,000, which is an improvement, but it's cup finals night.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And nevertheless, that's not a good number.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's down from last year about 200 people that about even from the year before and down even further from three years ago.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So this is all trending down and they go to Negata for the cup finals,

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[SPEAKER_01]: annually.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So this is a good apples to apples comparison.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's the same show, the same tournament finals in the same building.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We can kind of see how this is going and it's trending in the incorrect direction.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So a fewer and fewer people are interested in this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then we're just going to go to my point here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But

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[SPEAKER_01]: it kicked off with Kenosuke Takeshita coming back to a New Japan ring in Japan.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he had an open challenge for his television title, and who accepted the challenge, but me got his own favorite son, Yudro Takahashi.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I just thought, well, if you're going to give to Kesha a challenge, say, here you go, we're going to make you the heel and a match with you, Trotaka, and see if you can get something out of him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he kind of did.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is about as good a usual match as you're going to see in a while.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he got a response from the crowd.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They,

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[SPEAKER_01]: have a cult following in Negata.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They liked their native son.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Chase Owens came out with them and crowd actually liked some of Chase's interference.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Usually, it got a couple of nearfalls, but to kick out of a pimped juice hit raging fire and beat him, eight minutes and 10 seconds.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't too long, and to catch that, I think actually drugged you to something resembling a passable wrestling match, which to me, wanted to catch those biggest accomplishments of 2026 so far earlier.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I think it was like you're being a little cliche when you say that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I didn't think it was that bad.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it wasn't good, but I mean, it wasn't.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't think it was that bad.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought to catch it got something out of the guy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was fine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was, I was curious because I think somebody posted a list of everyone who was on the tour that didn't have a match by the time that the Takeshita thing was posted and it was like you drove and chase like a couple other guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So the writing was on the wall and that one pretty pretty quick.

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[UNKNOWN]: Oops.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you find, you know, glad you got this one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like juicer of quietly on a retirement tour right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It could be you know, it's kind of getting it getting in a couple of these matches here there and yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Perfectly fine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is a good use of Takeshita, you know, he's not essential to the upper main card of the rockstar be still on these shows.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, he's not going to be here much.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's not one match wind up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'd curious about it, but you know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, to Keshe, according to Nick Reeves is here in Heinek, he says to Keshe had a goofy little weekend between Jujo match and his DDT match on Sunday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, of course he went back to his original home promotion DDT and worked a particularly interesting one there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So he did have an interesting weekend back home right there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Colin mentions this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do they not see anything in Umino anymore?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought when the New Japan Cup,

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[SPEAKER_01]: My only question to the account is, see, do they not see anything in humano anymore?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, other than when he lost the main event of Kingdom, which was kind of a step for him, he always fails.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, what this is the story of showed to Umano that he he gets there and he fails over and over again and it's the same old thing we've been doing it for years and years so I wasn't surprised at all that he failed because that's all they seem to want him to do when I have a theory is to why that we're going to get to after we talk about the final so I was given the impression that Umano was really happy with

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[SPEAKER_00]: the work that he did and the reaction from the crowd from from this tour and it felt like it's re-evaluated him in some aspect.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if that's necessarily true but you know watching I watch that promo after I had read that and I was like oh I kind of see it but one really didn't have anything to do with the other like this was literally out of New Japan after party and people

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[SPEAKER_00]: He he figured something out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, he got a really good reaction at the quarter-final match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it really it really was The Zack Saber thing worked and the crowd seemed to like him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mentioned it was it was almost a interesting to point out that

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[SPEAKER_01]: There were people who were cheering for Zach because he's Zach and they were not hostile toward Oh, no, they were just rooting for the other guy, but they weren't bullying Chota and we've heard that before And matches like you get a chance to get a column too, and like they were standing or him, but next

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[SPEAKER_01]: He failed again.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So after the match with Ugero to catch the guy on the microphone said he needed to avenge a loss and it was to show to Umano in the G1.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So he wants to show to Umano to challenge him for the television title, which is going to happen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Show to did accept that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And when we get to show to smash, we'll talk about the post-match comments.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But

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[SPEAKER_01]: In this moment here, Takeshita just kind of came on like he was he just wanted to show to Umano to avenge G1 loss for a match to have later on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So Shota already had another direction and it certainly was not the top of the card.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, no disagreement.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Everything you said is clear on that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, Shota is going to weird play from the card.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Takeshita is on a weird play from the card, but I think it's other people's time to shine at this point of the year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we have a six-man tag match after this I know you do, and I know you do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Interesting tag team here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This was Tahitian L. Desperado, teaming up on now they've helped each other in the past.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But for the first time since 2020, Desperado and Tahitian were on the same side of a multi-person tag match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was back in the Suzuki Goon days, which I mean, it might erupt you with something about this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Matt Real quick.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because if you see this was the new lion mark announcement for when there was an injury, the black and white lion mark is gone Steven because she could she could Gima was originally the partner in this match for Desparado and Tahichi, but he was injured and so massatoria was the participant.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I apologize for interrupting, but I felt like that was worth the worth the moment.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, of course, they've been k-faving us with some of the black and white lion marks in the past, so maybe they just decided to retire it remember sometimes they they lied about go to and and shingo being hurt when they just take the time they were they were all they don't keep you with them just remind just a reminder this is all this stuff that's presented to us this cave there's a k-fave element to all of it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So anyway, this is the first time it's just 2020, they were on the same team, they teamed up with Yasuda, and they faced the Goto Revolutionary Army.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's Goto Matsumoto and Yoshi Hashi.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So just under nine minutes here, nothing much to it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Matsumoto was doing well, he's adding,

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[SPEAKER_01]: some more moves to his arsenal.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's always a good sign that they're letting him do a few more things pinch a local for the finish and afterwards to each He discussed with Desparado going after the trio's title some day, so but who knows?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sometimes you say stuff like that when you don't have any other direction you try to manifest your direction

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so what we'll keep an eye.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll keep an eye out for that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Of course, as we know, New Japan, again, devoid of any original floods has just put house the torture as a challenging team for the trio's titles.

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[SPEAKER_01]: God forbid we do anything interesting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So let's spread our way into that baby spread your wings and fly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But no, you're going to stay on the ground.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Out of ideas.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, I mean, Desparado Taichi and Kojima, when Kojima's healthy, I would rather see that than another, some set of house and torture guys do it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sure, it's fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just, keep it here until he's gone.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like you still got obligations in MLW.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You've got to go back on the 12 for them and do that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I know that the six-man title got a guy who looked important belts in the world, but who knows, who knows, I do like your idea though.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They can be a really good match if you put two good teams into them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I mean, they can be more than what they have been with House of Torture.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The issue is those title matches are bad because they have House of Torture at them, new in all the House of Torture Speel that we're all tired of.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so,

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[SPEAKER_01]: They could be good matches like we saw with TMDK challenging forum and all that and that against the go to revolutionary army.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I enjoyed that and I would at least like to look forward to it as a wrestling match and they could do that they just choose not to.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they're manifesting all these different teams that are all have torture, have torture, have torture, have torture, have torture, and you know, sometimes you want chicken instead of beef or beef.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'd like to see crowds instead of empty seats too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So Nick Reeves says I did feel the crowds are much more behind you and showed up by the end of the tournament than they've been in a while.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that weather I have faith in the follow-up is another story entirely.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and in the issue is objectively fewer people are paying to see this, they've got, you know, so the ones that are behind them, there are fewer of them than they were, not too long ago.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, in column mentions, I didn't notice how torture were still running wild, and that's without evil.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Boy, there was a lot of house torture on this tour.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Three matches a night, and it was rough.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It just kind of killed a lot of the undercard, because it tied up so many good wrestlers with in bad matches.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, if not like these matches went long, I think there was one match on the undercard that went more than 10 minutes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but I mean, you still want to kind of leave the room or go like, do sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I get that, but it's a full one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You had the opening thing and they're a bit of a teeth there, but it's really well, like, cutting up stuff, but they're really one match match that will match match.

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[UNKNOWN]: That's bad.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And this next one wasn't it, it was this one was another quickie, eight minutes, twenty-six seconds, but Dokey show in kind of Maro defeated Watotaguchi and Yo.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Again, just House torture match, Dokey ended up rolling up to Goochie after show hit him with an object.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Allegedly supposed to set up the Yo, Dokey match, but didn't really do anything to further any interest in it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, we're getting the best of the Super Junior to like line up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're doing a rollout by the way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's not going to be one single one single announcement they're going to announce what three a day for several days two or three a day from like March 28 through April 4th or 5th, but there's 13 names on the poster Teton broke their foot, he's not going to be in the tournament, so you got about seven people in there I would assume Dragon Dia, you know, some of those names that we were talking about last week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: guys also in the area.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If Robbie Eagles and Robbie Eats are on that poster camera, if they are, they're probably in the tournament.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, like, I don't expect a whole lot of surprises.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, we worked if published in their discord, a list of long-term contracts and people that reside.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, we mentioned the dragon die of looking last week in Fuminori Abe and Kukai.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I think we'll get the list.

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[SPEAKER_00]: These are going to anybody in there that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we'll get to that list later on after we get through the show, but like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't see yo winning this tournament right before the best of the Supreme or winning this title right before the Supreme.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I agree with you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think Doki's going to go into the tournament.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not like mine passing and then you annoying a guy and then this guy's like, I beat all these guys to get to you, Doki and Doki.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh gosh, you know, it's like you aren't worth my time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I lose to Doki a month later and we'll all be like angry, like the G1.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I think it's good to learn that food and a cure at challenge each other at rest of King Numwich.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would want down to percent be here for.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that would be fun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So after that, we had Great O'Conan Hinarre facing showed Umino and Tullawaki Hanma.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is a full Nelson by Hinarre on Homa for the submission.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There were really no hints about Umino at all and this one, what his attitude was like other than he just had another match that he was on the losing side of.

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[SPEAKER_01]: To catch it was on commentary, Umino stared him down.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then afterwards, he gave a promo, he being Umino.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And...

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[SPEAKER_01]: He was smiling and almost chuckling and saying, I'm not going to be gloomy, umano anymore.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to be cheerful and he kind of left him and smile this way through the promo, which made you feel like, okay, he's officially losing it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Losing his mind a little bit here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's another attempted direction, perhaps after the whole

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[SPEAKER_01]: He went through a couple of months for me to said I'm not going to talk anymore because I've talked in the past and then I failed and then so he stopped doing that and then he failed again.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So he doesn't know what else to do and this is just I don't know if they're setting something up at this point.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm losing faith that they have anything in mind for show to other than just being a guy who almost gets it and doesn't.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't know what they're got, whether you have a plan with him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He seems to be okay with where he's at right now and sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, what's what's he going to do?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Go to no one, go to all Japan.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's nowhere else to go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, yeah, he's like, oh, yeah, he's like, yeah, he's like, oh, yeah, he's like, oh, yeah, he's like, oh, yeah, he's like, oh, yeah, he's like, oh, yeah, he's like, oh, yeah, he's like, oh, yeah, he's like, oh, yeah, he's like, oh, yeah, he's like, oh, yeah, he's like, oh, yeah, he's like, oh, yeah, he's like, oh, yeah, he's like, oh, yeah, he's like, oh, yeah, he's like, oh, yeah, he's like, oh, yeah,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, all Japan probably can't afford them and no one probably doesn't want to pay him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't mean that is an assault to him, but they don't pay huge money for for a guy's that much.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We, you know, the even night to himself was probably the biggest.

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[SPEAKER_01]: name star they have only comes in once in a while and that's the control cost i'm sure and uh you know so it's here they are with these guys you know they you're in you're in new Japan there there isn't another men's promotion that's really hitting right now so it gave kid it can draw day and a pull off spray of the four and out that could come in and get the needle right down

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I should, you know what I should say that it's not that it's not that all Japan and Noah are down.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're not, New Japan is the only company that's really down consistently.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But they're not going grow.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They still, well, they're losing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're losing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's, it's growing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, it's going to grow.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Whereas all Japan is kind of holding steady Noah, either holding steady and they ticked up a little bit because they have brought in nighto and bushy and they've done a right form.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But New Japan is the only promotion that's really trending downward right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But

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[SPEAKER_01]: moving on to that, uh, speaking of trending downward, Aaron Wolf, Oleg Bowden and Toriano face the house of torture, and this one in a six-man tag that's the less said the better.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Submission win for Wolf over Dictogo, there was some power move stuff, but it meant nothing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And after this, you missed one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I may be I miss one, but I let me cover this one because they none are oh I did yeah, but in this one here the postmatch interview is the only thing Erin Wolf talked about was We'll try to remember the new spider man movie.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he is that he doesn't like I loved I love that he was a nerd, but yeah, not the place and not the time and it shows you that he is this utterly clueless about his direction as we are

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[SPEAKER_01]: Or he would have said something about it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He doesn't know what he's doing next either.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's great power has great responsibility and I understand.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I learned that lesson and I watched the inspired mantra and I'm really hyped.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I watched Marvel since I was a teenager.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm just like, what is happening here?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I am into it on a level that I should not be into it when I'm watching this and analyzing it for a podcast, cause it's spoke to me on a nerd level, but it should not speak to me on that level.

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[SPEAKER_00]: nerd code and that was not the time to play for nerd code.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, the match I did miss, by the way, was a six man tag, which was the United Empire of Francesco Akira, Jacob us from young and Jake Lee against Drillamolini, Shingo Takagi, and Tajiyashi Mori.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is actually a pretty decent match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It had some good energy to it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Akira was moving as was Ishimori.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Akira tapped out Ishimori just to build up that junior tag title match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: that could end up being the best match on that show, although I think Newman and Suji are no, that's the junior heavyweight, it will be the best match on that show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, it could be pretty awesome.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's going to be terrific.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and it is a cork and haul.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's not on the the Sacrigenesis card.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So all right, I mentioned the six man after that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Then we had an eight man tag.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And this one was good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This was Hartley Jackson, Jose Fujita, real Iowa and Zach Saber Jr, TMDK, against more of the unbound company.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This time it's Oscar, Yoda Suji, Yuto Ice, and Dahi Kina guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No one in this match is lazy, so this one was a lot of fun to watch even though it was only 8 minutes, 44 seconds.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You don't ice pick to fight with.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We were again, Fujita won the match by beating the young lion in the guy and afterwards ice got in, we was face and we were contrasted

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[SPEAKER_01]: with himself saying, I'm a wrestler.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to fight.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to wrestle, but I do want to take those tag team titles from you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so Zach, are you ready?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so Zach Saber Jr. in real Heo Ewa will challenge again for the tag team titles held by ice and Oscar.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And usually when you are challenged by the same team a second time, it doesn't go so well for the champs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know how many times it showed and you get challenged up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think, well, I think, well, I guess it was twice.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I guess that might have been so maybe they'll do it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think I think they're really trying to build up you know, I think it's an Oscar.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If that tag team and really giving them a strong run, they can move those singles matches in the G1 and all this stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But when you put them together, them being kind of unstoppable.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't necessarily think it's a good idea to put that saver and real hey, it's the tag champions going into the, going into the summertime.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They could really do whatever they want, like with the caliber of talent in this match, they'll make anything work.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it could, it could be a trade, just bounce them back and forth a little bit, they can do that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Nick says, do we think anything's going to come from all the Fujita Suji interactions on the tour?

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[SPEAKER_01]: They were fun, but I don't really see them doing a whole lot with it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Fujita has been getting in everybody's face and every got in the guy's face,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, Zane J.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He, you know, told Zane J to go get him, uh, gave him his Yoshinoya order to go get him, you know, I, so Fujud has been a little prickly when he comes to some of the young lines of some of the other guys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, uh, I think it's the thing that Fujud is doing now where he just is agitating everybody until again,

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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll see what happens in Super Junior's best in Super Junior's, but yet another guy who doesn't have much of a direction.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Most of the guys in this company don't really know what they're doing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, in storyline wise, there isn't much.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Fujita's interesting, because when I've talked into Josh about the we were a definite contract, I'll get into it a second.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He was talking about how Fujita was viewed differently internally than the rest of the juniors that he considered more of that core of wrestling talent that they're going to build around in the future.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So they're not.

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[SPEAKER_00]: booking him as if he's like the main state of the junior division and that's all whoever be there really long term he's probably in the junior division for a while dominated and then move on up to the heavyweight division and he'll probably be one of those guys well he put caught like 20 25 like pound over the net couple of years he's going to be one of those guys in the net for the IWGK championship.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so are they going to go anywhere with it not now?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he could win the path for the Super Junior easily.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But that wouldn't have to do with the owner's surgery.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just to answer it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: To answer next question, is Suji Fuji that going anywhere not for the moment?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think they'll just tap their Chippy interaction.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They could always do the Junior Heavyweight Championship versus the IWGP Heavyweight Championship later in the year if they both have the title.

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[SPEAKER_00]: like that's not beholden to the anniversary show and they didn't do it at the anniversary show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So there is a possibility that they could do something with this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I do think it's interesting that if they're doing this and don't have a plan exactly why are they doing it?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I honestly think sometimes these guys are just trying to manifest things because they don't have a real direction.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I know that there are, there are a lot of people who like to say, oh, there's long term things to play.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's no evidence of that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No evidence of that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sorry.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sorry.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know a lot of people like to put together these long, you know, the murder board with the red strings.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And this is all going here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And this is this attaches to this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it needs to this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's no evidence of all Japan is thinking things through that way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's just no evidence of it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: War hero says knockout brothers versus the hearties versus the usos versus FTR.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's pretty random group of teams that there's two good teams in there FTR.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The knockout brothers are real good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The hearties are way past their prime and the usos do a lot of super kicks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's I guess.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I mean, you can do the match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It would be interesting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'd like to see if I could say, you don't have to be a whole new wrestling world for that match to happen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Who can you imagine the the I can't but I do think the politics involved.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, boy I always think stuff like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's possible.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I had the knockout brothers gone to WWE It would have been one team out of there that if fundamentally we would have been impossible But the rest would have could have

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[SPEAKER_00]: You can put the heart even a match with the Kinoca brothers and who was the other team, the Uso's on NXT, doesn't matter.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I already can work for anybody.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They just float around.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Nick Reeves mentions in a world, in a just world, Fuji that would have had the junior title of the anniversary show, and we would have had the traditional champion versus champion match then.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What have been hell of a good match?

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[SPEAKER_01]: What have been hell of a good show?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Should have could have what?

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[SPEAKER_01]: All about you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, and more heroes pointing out that they're all champions right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Those are the champs of the various promotions.

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[SPEAKER_01]: we should have known.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because I don't think you're going to have a belt come Monday, I'll tell you that much.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That shows you how much American wrestling I'm watching right now, it's like going on there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So they're on, who's supposed to drop the titles on RAW?

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[SPEAKER_00]: On Monday, but WWE in their logic was like, well, the Uso if you're going to be at opening day on Netflix, why would we take the belt call for them before they're featured on the huge Netflix program?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because they would matter to the post post fans, they would matter.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think a whole lot mattered, but, you know, it was synergy and some type.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, the WWE wasn't stepping on their own genitals, basically, you know, taking belts off guys before they're featured somewhere else, you know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I guess.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I get it, but essentially the take away is going to be, they're dropping the title next week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think the vision of getting them and Braunbreaker coming back and all the things in WWE that are like, woo!

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's good they're going to show up or you're going to be on Maneia it'll be some place to you know the plan of Rey Mysterio, but he He got injured again and so he is unable to participate in Maneia plan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm sure they have somebody some old old guy to destroy for gun there on the show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, uh, there you go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: A good point, uh, pointing out that the champions right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I, I, well, admit, I, I did miss that because I haven't been keeping up on my stick.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I get away with everything today.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: New Japan cup 2026 final match was the main event of the show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was a terrific match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: 25 minutes and 52 seconds saying Jay tried to interfere a little bit, but this didn't bog down the match too much.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he was

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[SPEAKER_01]: it really came down to the two guys and well worked again.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not going to go through blow by blow by blow by blow, but go back and watch it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The ones he got to big move time, it was really good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This really took off when they started hitting their biggies.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the difference is, oh, amor, he kept taking and kicking out of the princess curse with any kicked out of princess curse twice.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it had a true 50-50 feel to it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I will admit that

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[SPEAKER_01]: while I had picked Newman.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't go into this match with 100% certainty that I was correct.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And this felt fairly 50-50 coming down the stretch.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And there were moments when I thought, OEMORA wasn't going to get the pin and take it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But finally, Newman ended up getting the victory.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And when I mentioned before, multi-year deal for Newman, Newman takes the cup,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uya fails again.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And afterwards, you know, Newman talks all the stuff like, you know, like, I'm the, I'm the king of, of New Japan now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Susie came out for a bit of a stair down.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, that, that was fine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was pretty good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that match is going to be really good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That world title match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Newman was over there taunting town of how she's sitting at ringside.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But, uh,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I really do think that it's this finish.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This result is more of a signal to other foreigners that it's a good idea to sign a multiyear contract with New Japan.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It will be good for your career.

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[SPEAKER_01]: See, look, this could be you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so afterwards, you, you way more said.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just going to come back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, again, he only has two promos.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The one where he wins, the one where he loses, where he says I'm just going to come back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's does nothing original, nothing interesting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he's not even booked on Sacra of Genesis this point, which I think is actually interesting and kind of.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But we're about to get into my theory in a second here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But go ahead and talk about this match, Jeremy, and how you felt as this final wound down.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, I thought those guys showed the best that they had to offer in this match and what they had to offer was very, very good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, I was generally thought of one of the better matches in the tournament.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, I thought the new finisher that Calmed had, the make way, which is the, the make way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The sidewalk slam, like it's on the shoulder and they turned them into like a sidewalk slam.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, they built that really well because the print is cursed wasn't getting the job done.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sorry.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I, you're exactly right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That is a big message to this thing because it failed a couple of times even against Shota the night before it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the story is that it's, it's a big move, but it's not the kill shot that he needs it to be.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So he is created a new one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Pardon me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So the make way was the, was the big one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, when Yoda food you came down and he walked down to the ring and he had a sunglasses on and he was smiling and he was in that really like

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[SPEAKER_00]: I definitely felt the aura was different between him and Newman in that moment, where, like, sugy felt like the big time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, even in New Japan, he just felt like he was the star and even after winning the cup, like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: I did not feel like it was conveyed that Cal looked at that level.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I did like the little touch of all the United Empire winning throughout the night.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then kind of surrounding the ring when Yoda was in there, basically saying like, you know, you need to go with you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You need to leave.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you did need to walk down to you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Wait if any.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was like, I don't know if it was necessary because I don't know if it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: really made Calum look as strong as he could going into it, but they also have a few weeks to, you know, they did the press conference and I thought the press conference was fine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's got a couple of matches to build up and, you know, I hope that they have something hot to really like go home with this on that road to secure Genesis show on April 2nd.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But if it does then and they just have a good match, good matches can get these people in the door for these two.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I think that's true.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think there's more to it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And this goes into what I was talking about here, Jeremy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was kicking this around like, man, another time when showed of fails.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Another time when you get there and fails.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Another time with a crowd that's smaller than it's been the last few years and they just fail in front of them again.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's,

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then I thought about what they've been doing with Uemura and show to in other spots where they get there and fail.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Remember, they did the same thing where they, one was in the playoffs for the G1, but they lost.

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[SPEAKER_01]: One had a chance to make the playoffs for the G1 with a win.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They lost.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a moment where they are on now, whether you get less looking to them on national television.

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[SPEAKER_01]: When they had the national television broadcast of the rest of the kingdom, they knew that it was going to be the Tana Hashimash of course should have been.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No argument there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the world title match, good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, should have been.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Featuring the women, smart idea, yeah, do that too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then highlights of the other stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They knew they weren't going to be showing the entire card, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: But what did they do when they had a sold-out Tokyo dome, and at least for the New Japan hard course?

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[SPEAKER_01]: they could present these guys as being something.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They took Shota and Uya, put them with a guest pop star guy, buried him in a match that had 20 guys in it where your entrance got more camera time than any in-ring action.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Go back and look.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You saw my guy got ripped out of there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: One or two moves, it was worse on TV, Jeremy, because at least you could look and see Shota and Uya if you wanted to.

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[SPEAKER_01]: wrestling around rings side, but they did like one thing on camera in the ring and they were gone.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They weren't wrestling around the ring side.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They were just when the camera looking all done, they were just sitting down doing nothing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That cool is going on in that match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Again, we're waiting for their turn knowing the camera wasn't on them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: With all of that said, with the way they've been booked, with the way they were buried in the biggest, in front of the biggest crowd they've had in very, very long time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Jeremy, consciously or not, are we sure Tanahashi wants anybody to get over like he was?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is there a little bit of triple H disease going on here with this?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It seems like he has been cutting these guys off at the knees and maybe Tanahashi, whether it is in the front of his mind or it's not, just because maybe we don't need to get anybody over like me, you know?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's the thing where,

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[SPEAKER_01]: He seems to be okay with pushing him, Kellum Newman, clearly not Tana Hashie.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He seems to be okay with pushing him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Anytime someone mentions, this guy might be the next Tana Hashie.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Tana Hashie seems to eat the chair out from under.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And kneecap him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm starting to wonder.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I put it in the bottom for the spiky hot take.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm starting to wonder if there isn't a little bit of Tana Hashie's ego, it's just like, let's make sure there isn't another me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And just again, show me a time when they have done anything that will let people get behind these guys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is not how to rush a time of how she was put to get them over.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was absolutely not and what keep I keep going back to is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: these crowds are dwindling.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I talk about it every week because it's a serious problem.

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[SPEAKER_01]: These crowds are getting smaller and smaller and smaller.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And if they continue and all this garbage that I hear about there is as well, it's a slow burn.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, sure shit is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They've been here for how many years back from excursion and they keep failing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And my point of this is if they pull the trigger on one of these guys, there might not be enough fans left to make a flip and difference.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And already the ones that are there are kind of losing faith in them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you know, there was that kind of, uh, but it wasn't a shock when they failed again.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The crowd was just like, yep, they didn't do it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's calmed.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just my thought on, especially when I thought about wrestling, because there was a chance to put them in front of 45,000 people.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And at least make them look good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they did nothing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: just buried him in that show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, went out of their way to make sure that's showed a, and then made him the third and the second and third most interesting people on the team because they hyped up the Popstar guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you could not have tried harder to bury these two and then with all the failures, just saying, maybe there's a little bit of Hiroshi Tana Hashie that doesn't want there to be another Hiroshi Tana Hashie.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I hope you appreciate it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The new banner I created at the fight the hot take for you, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just saying, I said, we said with Dave Meltzer joined us talking about time of hatchings return, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: We said that he needs to do something very different in 2026, our host's presidency is going to be seen as a disaster.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's where we're headed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It is not going well right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I agree with you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do I think that he's doing this on purpose and

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe he's doing it subconsciously, but I don't think that he's doing it overtly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I believe that this dude was pro wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He loved New Japan and he won't look best for it, but he may not be what's best for it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and I do wonder if there's just a little bit of a Z-go that's all I want to make sure that these guys don't quite become me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've seen really not an indication of that to that level, but I'm not going to discount it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You don't want to mean like, we're like, you know, I'm like, I think I know where they're going and where they're going, you see generally like the right direction with like the long-term booking just from, and they can get to this destination.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know you don't really feel like it, but it's like, you got to build this step by step and, you know, but come on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, I hear you and it's going to get you to do it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sure, do you have one the cup and then when the G1, maybe?

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, like, should show to one the cup and then you, you have one the G1.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Should you have one the cup and then show to one the G1?

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, like, all these guys, you know, like, sure, if number one the G1, if not entirely impossible, like, just drop the rocket to a minute and go that route with them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I said, what I think is I don't think you need both of them trying to get to the same position.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think those two need to be feuding with each other and that's the it's another thing that's missing from New Japan all together is that nobody seems to hate anybody else and they could use that that that could actually galvanize the muting they need to feuding to really heat up in there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and right now, it's just two guys doing the exact same thing failing and then saying next time I won't fail until they fail again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they're heading to the same destination, but for whatever reason, they don't see that they're going to raise with each other.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then we have a couple of other things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Jeremy says the whole business is down if you really look.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well,

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[SPEAKER_01]: American businesses down most of the Japanese companies are doing as well or better than they were last year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Start them is going to be an interesting show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're coming up on the also our grand queen and where they drew 7,500.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But just like Tata Hashi retiring, you can only quote unquote kill off Tam McConnell once.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't know what that show is going to do, but most companies in Japan are not that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: just kind of a new Japan is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, North America, it's getting a little squidgy, but a lot of that is because WWE is making it so that only rich people can attend their friggin' shells right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's some of the price gouging that's going on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And blood money shows going off to the Middle East, but it's a tough position.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I turn turmbar.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I hope I'm saying that right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He says, maybe he just doesn't see them as the people who bring new Japan prosperity.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if he believes in them having been in

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's an interesting point.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe he needs to bring in somebody that he didn't

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[SPEAKER_01]: see as a young lion, you know, who would that be?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I, yeah, to catch the, what do you do bring cattle to the end?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, to catch the, I mean, I think they want to catch the full time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think if they got to catch the full time, he's the guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I talked about that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, and that's the guy that they didn't have in the locker room getting the Mioshinoia every day.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, maybe he just,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Bobby Heenan, and I'm going to go way back here, but Bobby Heenan said he had to leave Dick the Bruiser because no matter how much money he drew for Dick the Bruiser, selling out arenas in Indianapolis, really the last run that was super successful for Dick the Bruiser.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Bruiser always saw him as the guy that washed his car when he started in the business.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He just bruises just always saw him that way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No matter how big it started, you had to leave and go to the AWA to get out from under that, okay?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to, a lot of times, you have to leave the place to start, but you're always 17 in your hometown, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: That whole cliche is like, you know, in your hometown, you're always a 17-year-old kid that first impression that you make on everybody.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's an interesting point, is that maybe, town of how she still sees these two as the guys are,

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[SPEAKER_01]: hangin' around their dad, rough, and getting everybody ocean-oying and playing catch with you, Jerome, and just doesn't see them as people who can headline a stadium.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe that's it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's an interesting theory.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's an interesting theory.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, can you think of me on that one, Jeremy?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sorry.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just went off on that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, wow.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's intriguing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It possible.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, it goes back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was at the point.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think, I mean, when we go into the G1 in Chicago, I think the G1 can be really good this year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think the best of the Super Junior is going to be really good this year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're going into a month here and then a month after, you know, we're going to have the Domingue in card, but you know, once we have secure genesis, there's not a whole lot of the main event seen going on until we get to Domingue in and then we're going into the G1.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I wish that there was more to chew on with you, and Shota going into this part of the year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I think that the part that's both frustrating to me is that they're both the losers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're both guys on the card.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They may feel better about

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[SPEAKER_00]: like their prospects going forward as they both like turned to corner to something.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But now we're gonna have to wait a considerable amount of time to really see that play out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, that's a girl genics with card has Takeshida and showed it on it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's going to be a 15-minute draw in all honesty.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I can't see Takeshida beating him in under 15 minutes, and I really can't see showed a beating him in 15 minutes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think more one of those matches that's just kind of like

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[SPEAKER_00]: what you're with hole for more later on, like you don't want to mean, like you just, it doesn't, it doesn't feel like a 15-minute resolve back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, I agree with you that it's it's in a weird place because either guy winning in 15 minutes doesn't make a whole lot of sense at all.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it would be the other guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, yeah, and they don't need to bury either one of them, although they're always burying one, but speaking which by the way, Jeremy is saying, do you think no bullet club like faction to push things hurts?

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[SPEAKER_01]: A little bit, yeah, but I think they're trying to do something with United Empire.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not sure if we don't want to pirate.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's the Nepal.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's where they're trying to get it to.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not, it's not there yet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, I do think not having and the established just top heel

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[SPEAKER_01]: U.S. VA guy has something interesting here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He says the company on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the company only truly believes in one person every single one of these guys has done something stupid that has hurt the company in some form.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, well, that's that's fair enough, too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We've heard the rumors, uh, but, uh, Nick Reeves says, I don't want you to see you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Tana, how she also is in from Nick Reeves, prominent evidence of one of those guys, main of any atocchio domain failing badly, whether it was showed as false or not, tough to get the stink off you when it happens like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Zach hasn't really approached that spot either after they took the belt.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, you know, well, he, he got the belt back from

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, they kept him well away from the Tokyo Domain event this year when you went Jeremy, he was buried in that mess of a match as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So there is something that he said there, but we more wouldn't have that stink on but also again, they had a chance to make either of those guys look good in front of 45,000 New Japan fans and deliberately chose not to do so.

01:00:01.596 --> 01:00:07.302
[SPEAKER_01]: So I think that was a signal too.

01:00:07.282 --> 01:00:17.734
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I keep seeing these guys at the future from American fans and I'm like, this isn't how they treat guys that are the future in historically in Japanese wrestling and in New Japan.

01:00:17.955 --> 01:00:19.837
[SPEAKER_01]: This isn't how they treat guys at the future.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, um, I'm not convinced it's going to happen for either one of them.

01:00:23.781 --> 01:00:34.013
[SPEAKER_01]: I mentioned a while ago that you have might be more of the new Sonata than the new anybody else in that, a guy who has really good matches, but it has a ceiling to him.

01:00:34.494 --> 01:00:36.276
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, we did know each other.

01:00:36.610 --> 01:00:50.679
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a new Japan put out some footage today of you at an elementary school playing with the kids and like in a full year doing the whole thing and full video of him playing with that.

01:00:50.980 --> 01:00:51.681
[SPEAKER_01]: So there it looks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're trying.

01:00:53.637 --> 01:00:56.382
[SPEAKER_01]: and none of it looks genuine, none of it looks real.

01:00:56.682 --> 01:00:57.684
[SPEAKER_00]: I thought it was cute.

01:00:58.025 --> 01:01:00.789
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought it is, it is, but it's too hard.

01:01:00.990 --> 01:01:02.152
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just try hard stuff.

01:01:02.192 --> 01:01:05.778
[SPEAKER_01]: Like the only person that can sell that and make it work is like, like, seen it could do it.

01:01:06.519 --> 01:01:08.843
[SPEAKER_01]: But seen it is pretty genuine with that stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you, you didn't come off that way to me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Collins says, like, keep going back to this.

01:01:12.089 --> 01:01:14.473
[SPEAKER_01]: But do you remember that 10 point plan that's on that actually made up?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, we did do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We went back and looked at it was six months later.

01:01:18.460 --> 01:01:22.766
[SPEAKER_01]: One of the things is that he would get rid of the house to torture BS, what happened to that.

01:01:22.886 --> 01:01:25.390
[SPEAKER_01]: I mentioned that, a couple of least of those, a good point.

01:01:26.531 --> 01:01:30.036
[SPEAKER_01]: When Dokey was a Dokey, would he beat Master Wattle?

01:01:30.056 --> 01:01:38.308
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, the ton of interference with Tanahashi sitting there on his ass at ringside next to the timekeeper, impotent.

01:01:38.592 --> 01:01:40.555
[SPEAKER_01]: looking like he could do nothing about it.

01:01:40.575 --> 01:01:43.840
[SPEAKER_01]: They made him put the belt on Doki all that talk.

01:01:44.201 --> 01:01:55.057
[SPEAKER_01]: Again, loses credibility with Tana Hashie because he made a point saying he was going to put a stop to all this and there he just sat there with his thumb up his ass watching all of it happen and then put the belt around Doki's waist.

01:01:55.317 --> 01:01:56.359
[SPEAKER_01]: Can you look weaker?

01:01:56.539 --> 01:01:58.963
[SPEAKER_01]: Can you make yourself look like a bigger dip?

01:01:58.943 --> 01:02:11.602
[SPEAKER_01]: Then Donna how she made himself look at that point means he's not good at this so far he's he's not good at this so far and a whole god had war hero is just trolling me now hang man can save the company with his return.

01:02:14.126 --> 01:02:20.917
[SPEAKER_01]: Now you're just trying to hurt me now you've just tried to hurt me I'm not going to fall for the spate that's rage bait and I'm not going to click it.

01:02:20.937 --> 01:02:21.778
[SPEAKER_00]: Good job, War hero.

01:02:24.813 --> 01:02:25.955
[SPEAKER_01]: He's not even a draw here.

01:02:26.215 --> 01:02:26.496
[SPEAKER_01]: Stop.

01:02:29.380 --> 01:02:29.720
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

01:02:30.201 --> 01:02:32.344
[SPEAKER_01]: So with that in mind, though, we move forward.

01:02:33.486 --> 01:02:33.907
[SPEAKER_01]: Got help us.

01:02:34.267 --> 01:02:35.950
[SPEAKER_01]: We're headed toward road to sacred genesis.

01:02:35.970 --> 01:02:39.816
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, only some of these road two shows are going to be on NJPW World.

01:02:40.136 --> 01:02:41.278
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not the full compliment.

01:02:41.298 --> 01:02:42.780
[SPEAKER_01]: Some of these are just going to be flat out house.

01:02:42.981 --> 01:02:43.742
[SPEAKER_00]: No matter.

01:02:44.283 --> 01:02:44.623
[SPEAKER_01]: Correct.

01:02:44.663 --> 01:02:45.024
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:02:45.064 --> 01:02:48.870
[SPEAKER_01]: So the one on Saturday, I'm bringing up my schedule here.

01:02:48.990 --> 01:02:49.791
[SPEAKER_01]: There we go.

01:02:50.142 --> 01:03:06.251
[SPEAKER_01]: Saturday, March 28th, an Ibaraki will be on NJPW World, Kushita is back, and he will face the newest young lion, Taipei, Nakahara, and after that, it's just a preview match house show, really, is what's going on in Ibaraki.

01:03:07.312 --> 01:03:14.445
[SPEAKER_01]: Sunday in Monday, they will be in Shizuoka, but as of right now, not listed on NJPW World,

01:03:14.864 --> 01:03:28.183
[SPEAKER_01]: They'll also be in Nagano on Wednesday, April 1st, and the first show on scheduled, scheduled, because they have added things to the past, but scheduled to be on NJPW World this next Thursday.

01:03:28.283 --> 01:03:30.166
[SPEAKER_01]: So when we come back here, we'll have this show.

01:03:30.526 --> 01:03:41.682
[SPEAKER_01]: The Corican Hall show, that's one's definitely going to be on NJPW World because it is the junior heavyweight title night, and that is the one where we will see,

01:03:41.662 --> 01:03:47.652
[SPEAKER_01]: Doki face, yo in the main event for the junior heavyweight title, we will also see Robbie accent, i.e.

01:03:47.672 --> 01:04:00.312
[SPEAKER_01]: Yishimori in what will almost certainly be the best match of the night facing Jacob Austin young and Francesco Akira and the rest is, you know, a count of Newman and company again, Suji and company, you'll see

01:04:00.292 --> 01:04:05.903
[SPEAKER_01]: ice-oster and ghetto against saver OEWA and heartly, you get the idea.

01:04:05.943 --> 01:04:16.183
[SPEAKER_01]: The other card stuff is setting up future matches and they do have UEWA more listed for this one, but I am going to double check, Zachary, and Genesis again right now.

01:04:16.323 --> 01:04:22.215
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't believe UEWA is currently on the symbol of all four matches for the current genesis at this point.

01:04:22.668 --> 01:04:24.393
[SPEAKER_01]: There are a few there are more now.

01:04:25.175 --> 01:04:25.836
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, there are more now.

01:04:26.037 --> 01:04:27.721
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to read them off.

01:04:27.802 --> 01:04:38.871
[SPEAKER_01]: It'll be Yasada and Kushida against Nakahara and Matsumoto so Kushida's in with the kids there in the kickoff match Tiger mask and Makabe against Fujada and Jackson

01:04:40.268 --> 01:04:42.831
[SPEAKER_01]: Got some tiger masks related news coming up later.

01:04:42.851 --> 01:04:47.076
[SPEAKER_01]: By the way, Robbie X, Ishimori and Shingo against young Akira and Lee.

01:04:47.137 --> 01:04:51.542
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's kind of a post-view tag instead of a preview tag.

01:04:52.403 --> 01:04:59.131
[SPEAKER_01]: And then you got the Aaron Wolf, Yo, Yano, and Watto against Karimaru, Shou, Doki, and Falae.

01:04:59.151 --> 01:05:03.677
[SPEAKER_01]: So there's the junior heavyweight singles title post-view match.

01:05:03.657 --> 01:05:06.019
[SPEAKER_01]: The never-open-weight six-man titles are on the line.

01:05:06.039 --> 01:05:12.064
[SPEAKER_01]: That's Yoshi Hashigoto and Bolton against Owens, Yujuro and Narita.

01:05:12.685 --> 01:05:13.946
[SPEAKER_01]: They're heckin' defense, Stephen.

01:05:14.646 --> 01:05:14.987
[SPEAKER_01]: It is.

01:05:15.207 --> 01:05:20.791
[SPEAKER_01]: The title match is for the TV title that comes up next to Keshdiver Shishoda Umano.

01:05:21.732 --> 01:05:24.234
[SPEAKER_01]: Then you have Real Halewawa and Zach Saber Jr.

01:05:24.274 --> 01:05:25.956
[SPEAKER_01]: Challenging Oscar and Yuto Ice.

01:05:26.016 --> 01:05:30.139
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the semi-final, the main event, Yoda Suji versus Calum Newman.

01:05:30.199 --> 01:05:33.242
[SPEAKER_01]: So, if you look at the top three matches,

01:05:34.235 --> 01:05:38.721
[SPEAKER_01]: This should be pretty good that the back end of the show should be real strong.

01:05:38.962 --> 01:05:47.674
[SPEAKER_01]: There's going to be some, uh, some house show is more kind of a mission of the show, you know, the last three matches looked really good.

01:05:48.135 --> 01:05:51.680
[SPEAKER_01]: And what do you make of you way more and not being booked?

01:05:56.667 --> 01:05:58.089
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the bounce on my side.

01:05:58.329 --> 01:06:00.272
[SPEAKER_01]: Keep that more on hangman away from New Japan.

01:06:00.392 --> 01:06:01.153
[SPEAKER_01]: There you go.

01:06:01.876 --> 01:06:05.123
[SPEAKER_01]: Best of all, you and I are copesthetic on this one.

01:06:05.143 --> 01:06:07.649
[SPEAKER_01]: I think he's in the right spot.

01:06:07.669 --> 01:06:08.732
[SPEAKER_00]: I would just say it with no you.

01:06:08.932 --> 01:06:17.271
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's just kind of the same of if you don't have a place to really make the guy get a win back after a loss like that.

01:06:17.672 --> 01:06:18.313
[SPEAKER_00]: Wait until you do.

01:06:19.977 --> 01:06:20.458
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

01:06:21.147 --> 01:06:21.788
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?

01:06:22.549 --> 01:06:33.341
[SPEAKER_00]: That was a pretty, you like, called Squirtual Laws that he had and him being off the programming feels like more called Squirtual to like him taking it in that he lost and reflecting on it.

01:06:33.641 --> 01:06:41.270
[SPEAKER_00]: If he had come back and he just had another match and he was happy and smiling and like, well, it's just a new page for you, get Uemura.

01:06:41.770 --> 01:06:44.153
[SPEAKER_00]: Golly, you'd be burning it, right?

01:06:44.774 --> 01:06:50.580
[SPEAKER_00]: So with this, there's a sense of he's looking at his wounds, maybe he'll come back a little bit stronger.

01:06:51.387 --> 01:06:53.009
[SPEAKER_01]: And you really think he's not going to be on the show at all.

01:06:56.774 --> 01:06:59.077
[SPEAKER_01]: He's just really, it's a really prominent absence.

01:06:59.097 --> 01:07:06.586
[SPEAKER_01]: Like I don't see anyone else who's considered an important guy, a G1 type of guy who's not in this.

01:07:06.907 --> 01:07:11.613
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just struggling to see anybody else who's not here that should be.

01:07:11.793 --> 01:07:12.994
[SPEAKER_02]: It just stands out to me.

01:07:15.698 --> 01:07:19.082
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean,

01:07:20.800 --> 01:07:25.508
[SPEAKER_01]: Again, I don't think he's a main event guy at the moment.

01:07:25.528 --> 01:07:46.504
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, this is going to fall like all hands on deck show clearly, you know, like there should be an all hands on deck show, all these big show should be all hands on deck, but it seems like they're really confident with the top three matches that they didn't really want the perception of you being well around the card and just to match.

01:07:46.973 --> 01:07:47.794
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, drill him along.

01:07:47.814 --> 01:07:48.355
[SPEAKER_01]: He's not in.

01:07:49.136 --> 01:07:52.440
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, I guess there are a couple, but that does just seem strange to me.

01:07:52.580 --> 01:07:52.880
[SPEAKER_01]: Just.

01:07:52.900 --> 01:07:53.561
[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, no.

01:07:53.581 --> 01:07:57.586
[SPEAKER_00]: There definitely like a flag wave on that, or if like, hey, that's a little weird.

01:07:57.707 --> 01:08:04.235
[SPEAKER_00]: But when I do look at this car and it's like, there, there's our own Koshita and Tiger mask on here and Togumaka Bay.

01:08:04.715 --> 01:08:10.703
[SPEAKER_00]: Those are thoughts that like you could have had if they wanted to, but they put those guys in there, except.

01:08:11.375 --> 01:08:16.209
[SPEAKER_01]: Jeremy or is wondering, one question, who will be their next non-Japanese star?

01:08:16.269 --> 01:08:18.275
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't see anyone write a draw to it.

01:08:18.395 --> 01:08:22.968
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, and we probably, I mean, that's kind of where I was going to go.

01:08:23.068 --> 01:08:26.498
[SPEAKER_01]: If he comes in for any length of time, I'll hit the glass.

01:08:27.473 --> 01:08:34.420
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, no, I mean, as far as just being a regular part of the roster like another Calum Newman type of thing, these are full-time, I don't know.

01:08:34.781 --> 01:08:37.103
[SPEAKER_01]: I think the purse strings are a little tight for stuff like that.

01:08:37.143 --> 01:08:46.253
[SPEAKER_01]: You might be seeing people more along what they did in the past with some foreigners, where a couple of guys were on long-term contracts, guys like Newman.

01:08:46.553 --> 01:08:50.797
[SPEAKER_01]: I think they want to cure up to stay and we'll give him multi-years to stay.

01:08:52.179 --> 01:08:56.383
[SPEAKER_01]: But as far as another new foreign guy coming over,

01:08:56.363 --> 01:08:59.327
[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't know if that's going to happen.

01:08:59.888 --> 01:09:02.692
[SPEAKER_00]: Did you see anything about the Steve Borden stuff at the Nitch fan academy?

01:09:03.033 --> 01:09:05.116
[SPEAKER_01]: It's in my news and notes that we're going to get to in a moment.

01:09:05.136 --> 01:09:10.284
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but I mean, he's a kind of like what he's at, getting it like if he got like Steve Borden going to be their next big league.

01:09:10.925 --> 01:09:25.847
[SPEAKER_01]: Considering, you know, so what we're talking about here is Sting's son, Steven Borden, Steve Borden Jr. Ressel for the LA Dojo at one of their small shows where they basically give a showcase for their trainees.

01:09:25.827 --> 01:09:33.159
[SPEAKER_01]: I saw some clips of it, and the dude is, he's a good looking guy with the terrific bill, looks like he's athletic.

01:09:33.780 --> 01:09:52.510
[SPEAKER_01]: So if he wants to stay with this, though, Jeremy, I have a feeling that the North American companies will come calling before he gets to any long stays in New Japan, because if this guy turns out that he's going to be a star half as much of his father, he'll get

01:09:52.625 --> 01:09:57.474
[SPEAKER_00]: I suspect he's, I just go all AEW directed.

01:09:58.035 --> 01:10:06.532
[SPEAKER_00]: It feels like it's coming up for the LA Dojo and giving him the opportunity, you know, and different to a father and all that.

01:10:07.073 --> 01:10:09.958
[SPEAKER_00]: Look, he reminds me of Carl Frederick.

01:10:10.040 --> 01:10:18.974
[SPEAKER_00]: when he was there, you know, like you got that, that big brunette kind of baby face energy, you know, just he probably has a higher feeling.

01:10:19.115 --> 01:10:19.415
[SPEAKER_00]: Carl.

01:10:20.457 --> 01:10:21.939
[SPEAKER_00]: It's real.

01:10:21.959 --> 01:10:22.861
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think so.

01:10:22.881 --> 01:10:28.029
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's not unfair to Carl, but I mean, if he gets any of his father's charisma, he'll be in much better shape.

01:10:28.049 --> 01:10:29.972
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the Carl's guy that I actually

01:10:31.994 --> 01:10:43.394
[SPEAKER_00]: If they can settle whatever different things that the two have between the the individual in the company, he could be a valuable asset to back in the trip and just up prior history, just kind of makes it a little.

01:10:44.716 --> 01:10:46.780
[SPEAKER_00]: You could bore a reality with that one.

01:10:46.962 --> 01:10:51.428
[SPEAKER_01]: I talked about it with before with him as I don't quite see it.

01:10:51.909 --> 01:10:52.710
[SPEAKER_01]: I just don't.

01:10:52.730 --> 01:10:53.711
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I just don't.

01:10:53.791 --> 01:11:02.523
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't then, you know, like when he was kind of in the young lion system coming up, I always thought that Gabe and Clark were a couple of yards ahead of him when it came to work.

01:11:02.964 --> 01:11:03.945
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't disagree with that.

01:11:03.965 --> 01:11:16.682
[SPEAKER_00]: But given that they are frugal with the budget, yeah, it wouldn't hurt to kick the tires

01:11:17.101 --> 01:11:19.303
[SPEAKER_00]: just a little bit of money to see if it could work out.

01:11:20.144 --> 01:11:20.684
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?

01:11:20.704 --> 01:11:23.327
[SPEAKER_00]: Like he's probably not going to be that close.

01:11:23.347 --> 01:11:32.236
[SPEAKER_01]: And the other thing Jeremy too, we're still talking about where it's challenging to get for in stars because the exchange rate, the money's not adding up.

01:11:32.256 --> 01:11:35.078
[SPEAKER_01]: The math ain't math and rule well for Japan as far.

01:11:35.138 --> 01:11:37.100
[SPEAKER_01]: It's great for travelers.

01:11:37.220 --> 01:11:41.825
[SPEAKER_01]: Like when Jeremy went, when I went last time, everything was pretty cheap considering.

01:11:41.845 --> 01:11:46.129
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it was a, I could have been a lot more expensive, but still found more money than I wanted to.

01:11:46.109 --> 01:11:55.181
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, fair enough, but when you look at like the exchange rate and what you've got food for and things like that, the issue is that the money just doesn't go as far.

01:11:55.382 --> 01:12:07.879
[SPEAKER_01]: And so the money they offer them doesn't translate into US dollars or British pounds, particularly well, as far as another foreign star, I mean, Robbie X should be a junior star for you.

01:12:08.179 --> 01:12:10.362
[SPEAKER_01]: I think the guy's dynamite, there's

01:12:11.118 --> 01:12:14.147
[SPEAKER_01]: they have some guys that they could do more with than they've been doing.

01:12:14.328 --> 01:12:15.632
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think maybe start there.

01:12:16.775 --> 01:12:16.875
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:12:16.895 --> 01:12:21.569
[SPEAKER_00]: So I think it's the probably a good place to talk about like we're looking for domestic turf.

01:12:21.951 --> 01:12:22.853
[SPEAKER_00]: Who have they signed?

01:12:23.295 --> 01:12:23.555
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:12:23.756 --> 01:12:25.802
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, this is going to be an important factor too.

01:12:26.103 --> 01:12:31.531
[SPEAKER_00]: So I've talking to Josh from we weren't the staff who did all the legwork on this and I want to give a full credit on this.

01:12:31.632 --> 01:12:36.018
[SPEAKER_00]: So go check out at podcast, go check out their discord.

01:12:37.200 --> 01:12:42.368
[SPEAKER_00]: They are very, very thoughtful individuals and you forward me this list.

01:12:42.388 --> 01:12:50.541
[SPEAKER_00]: So a somewhat of one year deal where our Gabe kid drove him alone in ELP into Kesha.

01:12:50.723 --> 01:12:59.394
[SPEAKER_00]: So these are one year deals and then what may end up being three year deals, but it was not quite confirmed.

01:12:59.474 --> 01:13:04.801
[SPEAKER_00]: It was more than two and it's less than five, but it wasn't like specifically three years.

01:13:04.861 --> 01:13:10.709
[SPEAKER_00]: But three years seem like what they're going with something these guys are 12 guys, 12 names that I have.

01:13:10.729 --> 01:13:19.600
[SPEAKER_00]: And they are Yoda Fuji,

01:13:20.238 --> 01:13:28.062
[SPEAKER_00]: After wayway, you know, I've calmed him in Henry, and there was one more name that doesn't make sense and I'm not going to say it.

01:13:30.148 --> 01:13:30.990
[SPEAKER_01]: Why wouldn't that?

01:13:31.010 --> 01:13:32.415
[SPEAKER_00]: Why would you guys be wrong Gabe twice?

01:13:32.615 --> 01:13:34.180
[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't think that was meant to be there.

01:13:34.902 --> 01:13:36.044
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, okay.

01:13:36.064 --> 01:13:36.164
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

01:13:36.184 --> 01:13:37.927
[SPEAKER_01]: So again, give us on the list.

01:13:37.947 --> 01:13:41.913
[SPEAKER_00]: You got the list of multi-year deals and I don't think that was I think that was in the stake.

01:13:42.354 --> 01:13:42.714
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

01:13:42.734 --> 01:13:44.096
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, we're eating it out of like that.

01:13:44.116 --> 01:13:44.657
[SPEAKER_00]: That's not right.

01:13:44.838 --> 01:13:45.458
[SPEAKER_01]: So.

01:13:45.479 --> 01:13:45.659
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

01:13:45.679 --> 01:13:45.979
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

01:13:45.999 --> 01:13:46.340
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

01:13:46.360 --> 01:13:46.941
[SPEAKER_00]: I was just going to.

01:13:47.542 --> 01:13:50.587
[SPEAKER_00]: But I said 12 names, but I always said 11.

01:13:50.707 --> 01:13:52.069
[SPEAKER_00]: I needed to clarify that.

01:13:52.309 --> 01:13:52.830
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

01:13:52.930 --> 01:13:53.671
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

01:13:53.691 --> 01:13:54.533
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

01:13:54.553 --> 01:13:54.873
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

01:13:54.933 --> 01:13:55.594
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, with that.

01:13:56.997 --> 01:13:58.018
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's like a core, right?

01:13:58.158 --> 01:14:01.163
[SPEAKER_00]: Like that's a core group that you can build around for three years.

01:14:01.531 --> 01:14:05.680
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and it does give you an idea of who they believe in.

01:14:05.820 --> 01:14:09.949
[SPEAKER_01]: And some instances are at least don't don't want moving around too much.

01:14:10.049 --> 01:14:14.479
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, the Drillamoloni was on the one year side of that, huh?

01:14:14.499 --> 01:14:15.000
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:14:15.301 --> 01:14:22.350
[SPEAKER_01]: That's a guy I would try to lock down if I were them because I think he clicks with a new Japan audience in the New Japan style.

01:14:23.071 --> 01:14:26.996
[SPEAKER_01]: I think Maloney, I think they can do three years with Maloney pretty good pretty well.

01:14:27.137 --> 01:14:29.540
[SPEAKER_01]: I think there's more in him.

01:14:31.042 --> 01:14:32.504
[SPEAKER_01]: Where was Frank Nessie here on that?

01:14:32.544 --> 01:14:34.066
[SPEAKER_01]: Was a career in the longer term one?

01:14:34.927 --> 01:14:36.529
[SPEAKER_00]: No, if not on that list.

01:14:36.549 --> 01:14:39.653
[SPEAKER_01]: That's another guy I would lock down for a period.

01:14:39.673 --> 01:14:41.075
[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like that guy's the real deal.

01:14:41.856 --> 01:14:44.920
[SPEAKER_00]: If Drillah had a three year deal, would

01:14:46.840 --> 01:14:50.606
[SPEAKER_01]: I would make him a rival to Calum.

01:14:50.666 --> 01:14:53.291
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I wouldn't have to be safe.

01:14:53.311 --> 01:14:55.194
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think it works with unbound company.

01:14:55.234 --> 01:14:57.317
[SPEAKER_01]: He and Shango, I think people are into that right now.

01:14:57.458 --> 01:15:03.207
[SPEAKER_01]: And so I think he could be a guy who battles Calum toward the top of that.

01:15:03.548 --> 01:15:11.481
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, if you have a foreign guy, he could be the foreign guy and not the only, but a foreign guy and unbound company.

01:15:11.461 --> 01:15:13.426
[SPEAKER_01]: Zach is in TMDK.

01:15:14.169 --> 01:15:15.733
[SPEAKER_01]: Calum is in United Empire.

01:15:15.773 --> 01:15:22.070
[SPEAKER_01]: There's something to be done there where these guys, you know, each one has that element to it.

01:15:22.091 --> 01:15:23.715
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think you need to put him with.

01:15:24.235 --> 01:15:24.736
[SPEAKER_01]: anyone.

01:15:24.756 --> 01:15:28.902
[SPEAKER_01]: I think he could kind of be one of the attack dogs for unbound company.

01:15:29.082 --> 01:15:29.803
[SPEAKER_01]: I like the spot.

01:15:29.883 --> 01:15:34.249
[SPEAKER_01]: I like the the dragons or whatever team, you know, team, get it, get it.

01:15:35.191 --> 01:15:35.792
[SPEAKER_01]: I like that.

01:15:36.192 --> 01:15:39.717
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think there's something to be done with with drill life.

01:15:39.797 --> 01:15:43.763
[SPEAKER_01]: I felt that for a while like when he was when he was Dan Maloney working.

01:15:43.743 --> 01:15:45.948
[SPEAKER_01]: early on in his new Japan run.

01:15:45.988 --> 01:15:54.850
[SPEAKER_01]: I just thought boy this guy's got there's a lot to him and he's got he can work he's got good charisma and the fans respond to him and they don't respond to everybody

01:15:56.112 --> 01:16:01.700
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the thing about this lift that I want to make clear is that these were all recently structured deals.

01:16:02.240 --> 01:16:22.828
[SPEAKER_00]: So there may have been other guys like a Kira, you already had a long term deal or hard to get a deal in place, you know, I mean, like, but these were all people that they needed to walk in because they were doing one year deals and it was not you know, I mean, like, one year deal for there for their core group of talent is unsustainable and this business structure.

01:16:23.855 --> 01:16:37.864
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, and, and you look at the guys like, oh, we were, oh, we were a, oh, we know why wouldn't they sign a three year deal with New Japan, but we, we already went through some of the alternatives and they aren't, they don't break up.

01:16:38.182 --> 01:16:43.990
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and I mentioned that you know that all Japan and Noah are either holding steady or growing slightly.

01:16:44.651 --> 01:16:45.632
[SPEAKER_01]: There's still a ways behind.

01:16:46.293 --> 01:16:55.385
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, there's the new Japan that's still the number one company by a good bit, and especially all Japan does not have a major company like cyber fight or bushy road behind it.

01:16:55.645 --> 01:16:57.608
[SPEAKER_01]: They just don't have the budget for stuff like that.

01:16:57.588 --> 01:17:16.896
[SPEAKER_01]: And for guys like that, maybe one, they were able to pay go she is Aki to come back to come there from Noah and but I imagine that taking care of Ken to me a horror probably cost them a lot of their budget just because they don't have that huge backing and the other.

01:17:16.876 --> 01:17:33.831
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and so OEMura and that might tilt things too much to try to get a guy like that so they're not going to go to all Japan They're not you know Noah will probably take some, but they can't take all because Cypher fight does just doesn't let him do whatever they want.

01:17:34.151 --> 01:17:46.562
[SPEAKER_01]: They're still operating within a budget So and new Japan still yet new Japan is still the only company that can run the Tokyo dome every year

01:17:46.542 --> 01:17:56.339
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, I mean, I'm not to be a smart ass, but those the companies right now, the choices are limited or go to North America and in that case.

01:17:57.822 --> 01:18:04.774
[SPEAKER_01]: Some of the guys seem to have enough, you know, a connection or a name that maybe WWE might be interested, but I don't see.

01:18:05.876 --> 01:18:10.103
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, we were way more or show to as guys like that and.

01:18:11.315 --> 01:18:17.244
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe it's worth walking it up to keep away from Tony Kahn because Tony seems to like guys every once in a while and take him from him.

01:18:17.264 --> 01:18:22.431
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, I mean, the names on that list make sense to me.

01:18:22.952 --> 01:18:32.946
[SPEAKER_01]: If I were New Japan, I might try to add a couple more, though, just to make sure that you don't lose guys like Akira, guys like Maloney who are clicking with the crowds and what crowds you have.

01:18:33.187 --> 01:18:35.450
[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't think that should be underestimated.

01:18:37.473 --> 01:18:41.018
[SPEAKER_00]: So what other news you got?

01:18:41.200 --> 01:18:44.688
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, a couple of the things we mentioned, Steve Borden.

01:18:44.708 --> 01:18:48.317
[SPEAKER_01]: So he has begun his career long journey, but he has begun it.

01:18:48.417 --> 01:18:49.941
[SPEAKER_01]: And speaking of long journeys, Jeremy.

01:18:50.743 --> 01:18:55.293
[SPEAKER_01]: Show Makato has begun his run in CMLL now.

01:18:55.314 --> 01:18:57.218
[SPEAKER_01]: He showed that his.

01:18:57.400 --> 01:18:58.343
[SPEAKER_01]: his first match.

01:18:58.904 --> 01:18:59.706
[SPEAKER_01]: He's died his hair.

01:18:59.807 --> 01:19:00.589
[SPEAKER_01]: He's a blonde.

01:19:01.351 --> 01:19:09.894
[SPEAKER_01]: And his first match came with Sunday at arena Mexico, of course they run arena Mexico three times a week, Friday nights for the huge ones.

01:19:10.296 --> 01:19:12.642
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the ones that dropped 15,000 under normal week.

01:19:13.685 --> 01:19:19.413
[SPEAKER_01]: But a smaller show on Sunday that's more aimed toward families and then another Tuesday show again.

01:19:20.074 --> 01:19:24.660
[SPEAKER_01]: But Sunday and Arena Mexico he teamed with Okamura, which is not a surprise.

01:19:24.720 --> 01:19:31.889
[SPEAKER_01]: He usually gets the Japanese excursion guys and Okamura helps get them acclimated to Mexico, show them around that type of thing.

01:19:32.510 --> 01:19:38.258
[SPEAKER_01]: And they had a loss to Briante Jr. and Majia Blanca, white magic.

01:19:38.238 --> 01:19:44.669
[SPEAKER_01]: and that was his CMLL, they view in the sense of him being a CMLL guy on excursion.

01:19:44.729 --> 01:19:45.891
[SPEAKER_01]: He's worked for CMLL before.

01:19:46.291 --> 01:19:55.166
[SPEAKER_01]: And then they had a match on Monday at Arena Pueblo that is the usual Monday stop and they own Arena in Pueblo that's outside of Mexico City.

01:19:55.447 --> 01:20:00.515
[SPEAKER_01]: He teamed with Okamura and Yutani, who was another Japanese wrestler, but not a new Japan guy.

01:20:00.595 --> 01:20:03.520
[SPEAKER_01]: He actually went to Mexico as a soccer player.

01:20:03.500 --> 01:20:05.863
[SPEAKER_01]: and ended up getting into pro wrestling that way.

01:20:05.883 --> 01:20:12.672
[SPEAKER_01]: So he's not a dojo guy, he's not an excursion, but he's another a Japanese citizen who is working in Mexico.

01:20:12.993 --> 01:20:20.162
[SPEAKER_01]: So they put all those guys together and they won their match against our colleagues, Stigma, and Zelwa on Arena Pueblo.

01:20:20.182 --> 01:20:21.945
[SPEAKER_01]: So we'll be keeping an eye on Shoma.

01:20:21.965 --> 01:20:23.567
[SPEAKER_01]: And since I have the

01:20:23.547 --> 01:20:30.155
[SPEAKER_01]: CMLL subscription, I can see him a little bit more than I can see the guys that go to Europe for instance, or something like that.

01:20:30.235 --> 01:20:38.105
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm interested to see how Shama does, but right now working as a Rudo Japanese wrestler in Mexico.

01:20:38.525 --> 01:20:53.503
[SPEAKER_00]: I got something to add to that because we're all talking about CMLL, and that is super biachi revealed that Magnus has to be going to officially become

01:20:54.158 --> 01:20:58.204
[SPEAKER_01]: There you go, that's something that doesn't happen a whole lot, where you guys just changing persona like that.

01:20:58.244 --> 01:21:01.228
[SPEAKER_01]: But that is a very rich tradition as well.

01:21:01.248 --> 01:21:05.134
[SPEAKER_01]: We mentioned it before, Mark Rollerball Racco is a legend, the original black tiger.

01:21:05.514 --> 01:21:07.116
[SPEAKER_01]: Any Guerrero was black tiger.

01:21:08.098 --> 01:21:09.760
[SPEAKER_01]: Rocky Romero was black tiger.

01:21:10.361 --> 01:21:16.510
[SPEAKER_01]: And remember, not all that long ago, Rocky Romero was the number one heel in all of Mexico when he was having that feud with Volodore a few years ago.

01:21:16.590 --> 01:21:20.916
[SPEAKER_01]: So big boots to fill in the black tiger lineage.

01:21:21.096 --> 01:21:23.760
[SPEAKER_01]: And Magnus is a hell of a worker.

01:21:23.740 --> 01:21:31.831
[SPEAKER_01]: I believe we added another excellent wrestler to the Black Tiger lineage and very cool.

01:21:31.851 --> 01:21:35.917
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so I guess we'll be seeing Magnus as Black Tiger going forward.

01:21:36.658 --> 01:21:38.220
[SPEAKER_00]: What other need to know, please?

01:21:38.300 --> 01:21:38.921
[SPEAKER_01]: That was the other.

01:21:38.961 --> 01:21:40.142
[SPEAKER_01]: That was the other one I had, too.

01:21:40.262 --> 01:21:41.604
[SPEAKER_01]: So, Magnus is Black Tiger.

01:21:41.744 --> 01:21:45.990
[SPEAKER_01]: I just thought it was interesting because that's not the way they usually do it.

01:21:47.172 --> 01:21:50.997
[SPEAKER_00]: For instance, it's like,

01:21:52.748 --> 01:21:57.194
[SPEAKER_01]: They kind of didn't acknowledge that Eddie wasn't Mark Rocco, you know what I mean?

01:21:57.214 --> 01:21:58.215
[SPEAKER_01]: Like they didn't come out around there.

01:21:58.235 --> 01:21:59.637
[SPEAKER_01]: So here's a new black tiger.

01:21:59.978 --> 01:22:01.560
[SPEAKER_01]: It was more like the black tiger's back.

01:22:01.740 --> 01:22:03.582
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just a different guy under the mask.

01:22:03.602 --> 01:22:06.286
[SPEAKER_01]: And he's tormenting Juschen Lager now instead of tiger masks.

01:22:06.306 --> 01:22:11.313
[SPEAKER_01]: So I mean, the thing about that is not like they were going around saying, that's Eddie Guerrero as black tiger.

01:22:11.353 --> 01:22:12.594
[SPEAKER_01]: They didn't do that.

01:22:12.755 --> 01:22:14.237
[SPEAKER_01]: It was just the black tiger.

01:22:14.297 --> 01:22:17.521
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's come out here and say, here's black tiger now, different.

01:22:17.561 --> 01:22:19.143
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's cool that they did it.

01:22:19.924 --> 01:22:22.047
[SPEAKER_00]: But there was definitely strong like,

01:22:22.027 --> 01:22:27.093
[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, whatever, sure, don't care if you don't want to do it.

01:22:28.074 --> 01:22:30.978
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, not only do the matter here, take a little bit.

01:22:30.998 --> 01:22:40.169
[SPEAKER_01]: If you black tiger, and I'm like, all right, not only does it really matter during strong shows or, you know, fantastic comedian and the things other than that, it's a CMLO thing.

01:22:40.189 --> 01:22:46.356
[SPEAKER_00]: So I would like you to black tiger if we can have it for a while, and then the new tiger mast did use to finally stop them.

01:22:47.097 --> 01:22:47.798
[SPEAKER_00]: That would be fun.

01:22:49.347 --> 01:22:53.373
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, maybe, maybe they're setting up for that.

01:22:53.413 --> 01:22:58.080
[SPEAKER_00]: We're just like, this guy has to freaking have and he's black tiger and who's going to stop black tiger?

01:22:58.160 --> 01:23:00.703
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's tiger mask.

01:23:01.024 --> 01:23:03.147
[SPEAKER_01]: That's his job, right?

01:23:03.347 --> 01:23:04.709
[SPEAKER_01]: Is the tiger mask and black tiger?

01:23:04.749 --> 01:23:06.371
[SPEAKER_01]: Eternal flows, the eternal flows.

01:23:06.972 --> 01:23:07.353
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, all right.

01:23:07.373 --> 01:23:09.836
[SPEAKER_01]: So we talked about the shows that we're going to see.

01:23:09.856 --> 01:23:13.001
[SPEAKER_01]: We have simply Saturday right now.

01:23:13.141 --> 01:23:16.126
[SPEAKER_01]: And then April 2nd, Thursday to come.

01:23:16.146 --> 01:23:19.270
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, let me show you a view on a show preview.

01:23:19.486 --> 01:23:22.511
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so we will come back with the house show at Ibaraki.

01:23:22.532 --> 01:23:24.495
[SPEAKER_01]: I can't imagine it's going to be particularly newsworthy.

01:23:24.956 --> 01:23:28.502
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll have some super junior participants by the end according to their schedule.

01:23:28.522 --> 01:23:31.648
[SPEAKER_01]: And what they said, how they were going to be rolled out.

01:23:32.049 --> 01:23:41.646
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll know a few of them, maybe not all of them, but a lot of them will have the junior heavyweight night in the books, and then we can preview second genesis next week.

01:23:41.710 --> 01:23:42.071
[SPEAKER_00]: Love it.

01:23:42.632 --> 01:23:42.932
[SPEAKER_00]: Love it.

01:23:43.313 --> 01:23:45.136
[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, thank you for getting me out of here five minutes early.

01:23:45.176 --> 01:23:45.657
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm dying.

01:23:46.118 --> 01:23:47.060
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I know you're hurting.

01:23:47.120 --> 01:23:49.424
[SPEAKER_01]: It's it's so tough when you have a cold.

01:23:49.444 --> 01:23:50.766
[SPEAKER_01]: It's amazing how it bugs you down.

01:23:50.846 --> 01:23:51.828
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm such a wolf.

01:23:52.750 --> 01:23:54.353
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not nice thing.

01:23:54.373 --> 01:23:54.894
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not I'm.

01:23:56.376 --> 01:24:02.267
[SPEAKER_00]: When I I will get sick like this once every couple of years, but what I do, it's like, man, I don't want to do it.

01:24:04.677 --> 01:24:07.080
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I read the same for putting up with me right now.

01:24:07.380 --> 01:24:09.683
[SPEAKER_01]: I think the way around watching baseball is baseball spend.

01:24:09.703 --> 01:24:13.247
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, you don't watch the Daredevil born again season two.

01:24:13.267 --> 01:24:20.795
[SPEAKER_00]: I spent a lot of time yesterday making sure that I was caught up on all the post matching goals in the backstage comments on Newspand.

01:24:21.356 --> 01:24:22.457
[SPEAKER_00]: But I literally watched like two hour TV yesterday.

01:24:22.477 --> 01:24:24.859
[SPEAKER_00]: And then I turned on the baseball, watch part of the dynamite with Kenny Omega and the Swerv.

01:24:24.900 --> 01:24:34.330
[SPEAKER_00]: But you have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have

01:24:34.681 --> 01:24:35.483
[SPEAKER_00]: Don't even know what happened.

01:24:36.245 --> 01:24:37.889
[SPEAKER_01]: I recorded a podcast earlier this week.

01:24:38.090 --> 01:24:40.336
[SPEAKER_01]: Jesse Velaskas had me back for top rope nation.

01:24:40.777 --> 01:24:44.607
[SPEAKER_01]: We looked at the Kentacobashi Mitsuhara Masawa mash from 2003.

01:24:44.627 --> 01:24:47.193
[SPEAKER_01]: So that'll be part of their patriot.

01:24:47.214 --> 01:24:49.720
[SPEAKER_00]: You're not that you're the guy to talk to you about this.

01:24:50.088 --> 01:24:51.451
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, the old Japan stuff, that's me.

01:24:51.471 --> 01:24:54.597
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, we talked for about an hour and a half.

01:24:54.617 --> 01:25:01.290
[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to be on the top prognation Patreon about that match, the whole history of Masawa and Kabashi and the older pan.

01:25:02.031 --> 01:25:07.101
[SPEAKER_01]: How we got to know how Noah was created and then on to, of course,

01:25:07.587 --> 01:25:36.632
[SPEAKER_01]: and said endings involved in that match that that was kind of a last haran some ways for that type of era the four pillars clashing and there were other four pillars matches but in some ways you know within a few years you know Kabashi would have cancer and piles of injuries and and then of course Masawa passing away in the ring a few years later as well so you know you got

01:25:37.726 --> 01:25:46.238
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a spot on that, Jeremy, I forgot about this spot or kind of until you see it, you don't believe they're actually going to do it, but Noah has the ramp, right?

01:25:46.298 --> 01:25:49.390
[SPEAKER_01]: So the ramp goes up to ringside, so you can.

01:25:49.825 --> 01:25:53.269
[SPEAKER_01]: get thrown out of the ring and land on the ramp like a CMLL and some of the things.

01:25:53.810 --> 01:26:02.881
[SPEAKER_01]: And they ended up fighting on the ramp and Masala gives him a friggin dragon, suplex, off the ramp to the floor, a dragon, suplex.

01:26:02.901 --> 01:26:08.107
[SPEAKER_01]: So put yourself in a full Nelson, suplex off the ramp all the way to the floor.

01:26:08.127 --> 01:26:10.450
[SPEAKER_01]: Some miracles, guys, didn't kill each other right there.

01:26:10.430 --> 01:26:10.971
[SPEAKER_01]: We're here.

01:26:11.031 --> 01:26:12.493
[SPEAKER_01]: There are no four pillars in AEW.

01:26:13.534 --> 01:26:15.597
[SPEAKER_01]: The only four pillars are an ultra pan.

01:26:15.617 --> 01:26:16.659
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just a choice.

01:26:16.779 --> 01:26:17.780
[SPEAKER_00]: They tried to make four full.

01:26:17.801 --> 01:26:18.441
[SPEAKER_01]: All four at every time.

01:26:18.522 --> 01:26:22.227
[SPEAKER_01]: I fall for War Hero every time and then Colin's asking my keeping up a startup.

01:26:22.247 --> 01:26:23.629
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I am up on startup.

01:26:23.649 --> 01:26:26.032
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm up on startup and I'm almost back on Marigold.

01:26:26.433 --> 01:26:31.340
[SPEAKER_01]: I've been setting my alarm two hours early every morning, sacrificing sleep so I can catch up on it.

01:26:31.961 --> 01:26:36.387
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm up on

01:26:36.367 --> 01:26:37.549
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm back on startup.

01:26:37.569 --> 01:26:38.891
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's I'm feeling good.

01:26:39.292 --> 01:26:39.913
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm feeling good.

01:26:40.053 --> 01:26:41.856
[SPEAKER_01]: One busy weekend is going to kill me dead though.

01:26:41.876 --> 01:26:44.460
[SPEAKER_01]: And I, you know, T.J. P. W. I'm dead.

01:26:45.101 --> 01:26:48.467
[SPEAKER_01]: I haven't been able to watch the rest of the Texas tour yet, but maybe I'll get to that.

01:26:48.707 --> 01:26:50.370
[SPEAKER_01]: See, but now it's baseball.

01:26:50.410 --> 01:26:51.572
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm losing my time.

01:26:52.493 --> 01:26:56.620
[SPEAKER_00]: The pressure of trying to watch all these shows that you yourself are deciding you must watch.

01:26:57.562 --> 01:27:00.987
[SPEAKER_01]: This is the curse of a completeist when you are a completeist.

01:27:01.007 --> 01:27:23.097
[SPEAKER_01]: You feel like you need to see everything and it will I And trying to keep up is a little bit like trying to take that close-up picture of the horizon You know how the photographer went mad trying to take the close-up picture of the horizon It's a little bit how I feel sometimes trying to get feels like every time I watch a show two more fall in to cue behind it So I'm doing my best

01:27:23.667 --> 01:27:31.047
[SPEAKER_00]: I wanted to thank everybody for putting up with me this morning, the afternoon today, dying over here, but we did it.

01:27:31.288 --> 01:27:32.150
[SPEAKER_00]: We had a conversation.

01:27:32.511 --> 01:27:38.166
[SPEAKER_00]: I was a little bit low-fi energy if you picked up on that, but I think it was pretty good show.

01:27:38.618 --> 01:27:41.982
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I want to say welcome back to Colin, and I want to say thank you to Jeremy.

01:27:42.302 --> 01:27:44.585
[SPEAKER_01]: Fernando Zias was here, a glad to see you.

01:27:45.046 --> 01:27:48.750
[SPEAKER_01]: Estabon, USVA guy, War Hero, glad you're here, it's always upon Nick Reeves.

01:27:49.371 --> 01:27:58.301
[SPEAKER_01]: The people that joined us here live, we really appreciate you, and it's, you make the show so much better for us for everybody that watches or listens to this later, we're very, very grateful.

01:27:58.662 --> 01:28:04.308
[SPEAKER_01]: Like I said, we've talked about how there are demands on everybody's time from a lot of different directions.

01:28:04.549 --> 01:28:08.153
[SPEAKER_01]: The fact that you choose to spend some years with us needs a lot to us and we're grateful.

01:28:08.133 --> 01:28:09.576
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you guys.

01:28:09.596 --> 01:28:09.916
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

01:28:09.936 --> 01:28:19.895
[SPEAKER_01]: So with that in mind next week, we will be back with the previous Zachary Genesis, a review of Junior Heavyweight Knight of Corican and any other news that comes up, some super junior stuff, too, and line up.

01:28:19.915 --> 01:28:22.119
[SPEAKER_01]: So with that in mind, we will talk to you then.

01:28:22.160 --> 01:28:24.043
[SPEAKER_01]: He's Jeremy Feinstein.

01:28:24.143 --> 01:28:24.965
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm Stephen Conway.

01:28:25.005 --> 01:28:28.251
[SPEAKER_01]: This has been speaking of strong style, and we'll talk to you again, real soon.